The Tucker Carlson Show - April 26, 2024


Bonus Episode | Glenn Beck and Whittney Webb


Episode Stats

Length

26 minutes

Words per Minute

166.88008

Word Count

4,431

Sentence Count

327

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Glenn Beck is one of the most creative people in all of media, and is a friend of ours. In addition to being an old friend of Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck is also one of my favorite podcasters, and he produces an awesome podcast, The Glenn Beck Show, which you should definitely check out! If you like it, don t forget to subscribe to the show. And if you don't, don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to get immediate access to new episodes of the show, and Glenn Beck's newest show, "The Glenn Beck Hour." This episode features Whitney Webb, a writer and journalist who has covered some of the biggest stories of our time, including the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, and her new book, "One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime That Gave Us Jeffrey Epstein." Whitney is a force to be reckoned with. She is sharp, and she is a massive threat to powerful people. If people will listen and do their own homework and just explore what she s saying, the game is up. She has a gift for locating power and hunting it in its darkest corners, a web of elites who operate under the principle that rules are for other people, and they are not. . Whitney Webb's book is out now, and it's a must-listen for anyone who wants to know what's going on in the dark corners of the world. and why they should pay attention to what's really going on there, and how they can stop it. in order to make sure they don t get screwed. the most of what s going on in the first place and get a seat at the most important part of the table in the next episode of the greatest show on the Biggest show on history. The Biggest Show on the internet The Game is Up! by Whitney Webb - click here to watch the full version of this episode here. Thanks to Whitney's book, One Nation under Blackmail . and to my good friend, Alex Acosta, for helping me make the case against Jeffrey Epstein. of the Epstein scandal. here is a sample of the book, here are links to the book we cover the Epstein story, here's a copy of it here are my own copy of her book, and here s a link to the full book I read from Whitney's excellent book.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 In addition to being an old friend of ours, Glenn Beck is one of the most creative people in all of media, and that includes independent media, where he now works.
00:00:08.440 So it naturally follows that he produces an awesome podcast, which you should definitely check out.
00:00:15.020 Here's a sample, and if you like it, don't forget to subscribe.
00:00:30.000 A campaign of lies can hide anything, and with the magic of disinformation, mysterious deaths can be quickly brushed off as suicides, even when all of the details don't add up.
00:00:44.580 And there's so many stories now that just don't add up.
00:00:48.480 Jeffrey Epstein infiltrated the highest ranks of every sector of power.
00:00:53.580 You are going to learn a lot about the world today.
00:00:59.260 He was into law enforcement, art, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, big business, real estate, philanthropy, media, academics, and banking.
00:01:09.560 He even wormed his way into high fashion.
00:01:12.220 He hung out with Nobel Prize-winning scientists and billionaire arms dealers, movie directors, famous actors, journalists, and lots of politicians, including heads of state.
00:01:22.880 Not just here in America, and he has a very special bond with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
00:01:27.600 We still don't know who took part in his many crimes, and they are vast.
00:01:34.800 This is nothing short of political terrorism, theater facilitated by the media.
00:01:40.940 Today's guest, as you will hear, I just finished it, and you will hear halfway through, I say, maybe it's halfway through, I said, I think this is the most important hour I have ever been a part of in broadcast.
00:02:02.060 Today's guest has a gift for locating power and hunting it in its darkest corners, a web of elites who operate under the principle that rules are for other people.
00:02:14.800 Her two-volume book, one nation under blackmail, the sordid union between intelligence and crime that gave rise to Jeffrey Epstein, is out.
00:02:25.460 Keep your eye on this one.
00:02:27.560 She is sharp.
00:02:29.320 She is a massive threat to powerful people.
00:02:33.120 If people will listen and do their own homework and just explore what she's saying, the game is up.
00:02:43.760 Please welcome Whitney Webb.
00:02:58.660 Welcome.
00:02:59.260 I am a huge fan of your work.
00:03:04.120 You have covered some of the most important stories, I think, in my lifetime.
00:03:13.060 Wow.
00:03:13.760 Thank you.
00:03:14.300 And you are so clear on all of them.
00:03:18.380 And most of these stories are the ones you can't get answers on.
00:03:22.400 They're all the stories that the big and powerful want to hide, want you to not see what's really going on.
00:03:31.320 And it's so frustrating because it's clear that these things are happening and should be discussed.
00:03:39.560 Are you worried ever about your safety?
00:03:43.200 No, and the reason I say that is because I think, you know, a lot of what we're facing is an energetic and spiritual battle, I guess you could say.
00:03:55.280 And I think in order, you know, if you're afraid of these people, you're giving them power over you.
00:04:02.320 And I think really the only way to to win this is to have your commitment to, you know, what you're fighting for, the good about humanity to be total.
00:04:11.360 OK, so I want to talk to you, if we can, in an hour.
00:04:14.260 I want to mention Bitcoin, get a little bit of that journalism, transhumanism, ESG, the World Economic Forum.
00:04:22.040 We're not going to be able to get to all of it, but we have to start with Jeffrey Epstein, because the way you have written about him, it connects to a whole world of corruption.
00:04:35.860 Yeah.
00:04:36.260 Is he kind of the Rosetta Stone?
00:04:38.980 Yeah, I think it's sort of like a meta scandal.
00:04:41.260 You're looking at someone who really had, I guess, for lack of a better metaphor, had his hands in a lot of pies.
00:04:47.100 Yeah, right.
00:04:48.160 So he was sort of at the center of a lot of scandals, but not necessarily at the top.
00:04:52.400 Right.
00:04:52.620 I think he was more maybe middle management in a sense, but very central to a lot of these things going on that sort of these networks in which he in which he inhabits are involved in, you know, numerous acts of corruption simultaneously.
00:05:08.940 He, you know, is there involved in many of them, but not necessarily at the top level.
00:05:14.060 Right.
00:05:14.820 So was he was he a spy?
00:05:17.100 I think he definitely had intelligence connections, and there's a lot, you know, to suggest that was the case.
00:05:22.860 I think one of the most the earliest hints we heard of that was having a secretary of labor, Alex Acosta, under Trump, say that one of the reasons he was pressured into giving Epstein a sweetheart deal during his first arrest in Florida was because he had been told by unspecified actors that Epstein belonged to intelligence.
00:05:41.460 But that's kind of, you know, what exactly does that mean?
00:05:44.760 Was he an asset?
00:05:45.680 Was he on the payroll?
00:05:46.720 Which intelligence agency?
00:05:48.040 Multiple intelligence agencies.
00:05:49.800 When you have his close association with someone like Ghislaine Maxwell in the mix and her father had affiliations with numerous intelligence agencies, you know, it really is an open question.
00:05:58.860 He was kind of a bad guy.
00:06:00.880 Yeah.
00:06:01.220 I mean, I'm reading your work about him and explain who he was.
00:06:04.760 So Robert Maxwell was involved in many things, but he definitely played a major role in undermining U.S. national security by selling bug software to nuclear laboratories in the United States.
00:06:16.180 And this was directly facilitated by well-known statesmen in U.S. history, like Henry Kissinger, for example.
00:06:24.020 And a lot of the people I think that enabled him, at least on the U.S. side, tend to be those that favor global governance.
00:06:31.380 And, you know, they kind of don't want the U.S. to have that kind of monopoly on power.
00:06:37.800 Because all of his family, they were killed in the Holocaust, right?
00:06:40.860 Right.
00:06:41.160 And so he's in the West, England.
00:06:45.460 He survives, becomes kind of William Randolph Hearst of England.
00:06:52.820 Yeah, I mean, you're a local, sure.
00:06:55.540 And then betrays the West.
00:07:00.520 And that's not because he was on the other – he wasn't on the Soviet side.
00:07:05.460 He was on a global government side.
00:07:07.080 Well, I think you have to look at this network, and they've evolved over time, right?
00:07:11.640 Robert Maxwell was very close to the Eastern Bloc.
00:07:14.160 He had a very close relationship with intelligence figures in the KGB and also Bulgaria.
00:07:18.620 He had a relationship with British intelligence and Israeli intelligence and was involved in aspects of what later became known as Iran-Contra, which, of course, involves aspects of U.S. intelligence.
00:07:28.740 So, I mean, he had his hands in, you know, everywhere and everything.
00:07:32.340 And I think ultimately people like him are interested in any deal they can make to advance their money and their power and their influence, they'll take it.
00:07:40.460 So Robert Maxwell was very interested in having his family be like the Kennedy family, a political power dynasty.
00:07:47.640 And that's part of why he started moving into New York City around, you know, just a year or two before he ended up dying.
00:07:53.740 And Ghislaine Maxwell was sent to New York sort of to be his emissary.
00:07:56.700 Was she part and parcel of from the beginning or was she, you know, kind of a good girl, idealistic, comes over here, you know, knows that dad wants to put her into powerful positions but not shopping women?
00:08:16.020 I think it's a lot more complicated than that.
00:08:18.360 You have to look at her early history.
00:08:20.400 The favorite son of Robert Maxwell was originally Michael Maxwell.
00:08:23.360 He was in a vegetative state after a car crash, I think, when he was 15.
00:08:28.260 And that happened shortly after, just a few days after Ghislaine was born.
00:08:32.400 So her family members and she herself have attested to that she was basically neglected for the first three years of her life and even developed childhood anorexia, things like that.
00:08:42.140 And then, you know, a few years after, she becomes the favorite child.
00:08:45.760 So she goes from having this complete lack of parental attention to being sort of showered in it by Robert Maxwell.
00:08:51.800 And that obviously has going to have a psychological impact on someone.
00:08:55.240 And in addition, there's she was basically managed by her father from a very early age.
00:09:03.000 He managed her, tried to manage her romantic life.
00:09:05.960 He tried to manage what job she would have.
00:09:07.960 And she was very dependent on him.
00:09:09.880 So when he is dead in 1991, it makes sense that she would attach herself to someone with a lot of the similar, similar characteristics.
00:09:16.060 Right. So dad didn't know about Jeffrey Epstein wasn't alive at that point.
00:09:21.540 Well, the allegation have been made by people that worked with Robert Maxwell in the 80s that Jeffrey Epstein was seen in his offices frequently in the United Kingdom.
00:09:31.500 And during that period of time, it was known that Epstein was active in the United Kingdom.
00:09:35.180 He was allegedly being mentored by a British arms dealer named Douglas Lease with British intelligence connections.
00:09:41.080 This goes to the deep state or you call it deep politics.
00:09:49.060 And it's been going on for a long time.
00:09:51.420 But people, I don't think, realize that, you know, the Bourne identity, you know, those Jason Bourne movies, that that is a reflection of some people's real lives.
00:10:02.420 I mean, it's a it's a totally fictitious story, but those things do go on.
00:10:07.540 And and and I tell you, I have I have felt for a long time with the just with the NSA listening to everybody's phone calls.
00:10:19.880 If you're important in Washington, they're going to do everything they can to manage you, to manage you.
00:10:26.800 Yeah. So if you're not rock solid in who you are and what right and wrong really is, they got you.
00:10:33.320 Yeah. But even they don't, you know, today, I think we've moved away from the type of model that Epstein used for sexual blackmail.
00:10:42.100 It's an era of electronic blackmail and you don't even have to do anything wrong.
00:10:45.360 They can just plant it on your devices and play gotcha that way.
00:10:49.020 So it's really an unprecedented situation.
00:10:51.440 And a lot of these intelligence agencies, as I note in the book, you know, really for decades have been totally out of control.
00:10:57.140 And, you know, I really start off the book talking about how intelligence agencies and organized crime in the U.S. got in bed together.
00:11:04.260 And really that symbiosis, you know, it was originally justified out of wartime necessity during World War Two.
00:11:10.660 Fighting the Nazis.
00:11:11.460 Yeah. But it never stopped. Right.
00:11:13.080 Right. And it's, you know, business is business.
00:11:15.940 And some of these people in our own national security state, you know, realized they could make a lot of money working with organized crime and really shielding them and getting in on the spoils, I guess you could say.
00:11:26.200 Are we ever going to find out who's in the black book?
00:11:29.420 I don't think so. I think the FBI has been compromised from the very beginning.
00:11:33.620 In the book, I talk a lot about J. Edgar Hoover. He was blackmailed by the mob.
00:11:37.740 He realized the power blackmail had, started using blackmail himself.
00:11:42.520 And, you know, increasingly the FBI, and I think it's very obvious to a lot of conservatives now,
00:11:46.900 comes in to cover things up and to, you know, go after, you know, figures that they, you know, don't want to advance in their careers or, you know, any sort of thing.
00:11:58.500 It's very, it's very complicated.
00:12:01.260 So what do we do as a country when, you know, there needs to be massive investigations of all sorts of stuff, Jeffrey Epstein being one.
00:12:06.720 And, you know, the government is increasingly incapable of investigating itself, especially when you're looking at the FBI or something.
00:12:12.940 Can we just go through some names like Alan Dershowitz and Bill Clinton and Donald Trump?
00:12:21.080 What were they involved in?
00:12:24.300 So, and so each of those cases is really different.
00:12:29.120 But if I'm looking at, you know, I guess the one that's gotten the most, gotten the most attention, obviously, are the former presidents, right?
00:12:35.260 Trump and Clinton.
00:12:35.960 And as far as I'm concerned, the Clinton-Epstein relationship is much more damaging than the Trump-Epstein relationship.
00:12:42.200 But there, you know, are obvious reasons for concern in both of them.
00:12:47.380 And I don't think it's, you know, I, in trying to be objective, you know, I can't absolve one or the other.
00:12:53.740 But are you saying, are you saying one is more damaging?
00:12:57.820 Because people don't understand, it's not just the horrific evil sex trafficking that was going on.
00:13:04.880 It's also massive corruption.
00:13:08.220 And financial crimes.
00:13:08.960 And financial crimes.
00:13:09.900 And that's particularly glaring with the Epstein-Clinton relationship.
00:13:13.640 You have someone like Jeffrey Epstein that described himself in the 80s as a financial bounty hunter.
00:13:17.880 He was hiding or finding looted money for powerful people.
00:13:21.980 That's coming from him.
00:13:23.480 And he said this to numerous people.
00:13:25.160 There's numerous sources attesting to this.
00:13:26.840 So, obviously, he was very comfortable with the offshore financial system, shadow banking, and all of that.
00:13:32.620 And then in the late 80s, in addition to becoming involved with Leslie Wexner's finances, he is involved in orchestrating one of the largest Ponzi schemes in U.S. history.
00:13:42.280 The other person he worked with in that, Stephen Hoffenberg, you know, is arrested and goes to jail for that in 1993.
00:13:48.500 Epstein's name is dropped from the case, and he ends up at Clinton White House fundraisers.
00:13:52.600 And one of those fundraisers is involved Hillary Clinton's alleged effort to refurbish the White House.
00:14:01.220 And this makes a brief appearance in Vince Foster's quote-unquote suicide note.
00:14:05.520 The only mention of Hillary Clinton in that suicide note is relating to her and Khaki Hawkersmith redecorating and how there was nothing wrong with the finances there.
00:14:13.100 If your, you know, listeners are familiar with the Vince Foster situation and how Hillary Clinton, her office, was involved in finding the suicide note when there was nothing in the briefcase and all of that later.
00:14:27.280 It's very interesting.
00:14:28.400 The only mention of her name would be in trying to absolve that particular fundraiser of, you know, any wrongdoing, which would have been Foster's responsibility.
00:14:36.120 And that's Jeffrey Epstein's, you know, one of his first interactions with the White House.
00:14:40.120 There's a picture of him shaking hands with Bill Clinton at that fundraiser donor reception.
00:14:45.800 And only UK media covered that when it came out last December.
00:14:50.320 I got to tell you.
00:14:51.200 It's pretty stunning.
00:14:52.260 I only see stuff that I kind of trust from UK now.
00:14:57.560 I read any, there's any scandal going on in America.
00:15:00.280 I trust the foreign press more than I trust our press.
00:15:02.500 Well, isn't it stunning that there's a picture of, you know, the claim has been for a long time that the Epstein-Clinton relationship only really began after Clinton left office.
00:15:10.080 And then you have a picture contributing to that and it doesn't get any coverage.
00:15:13.520 How much of what we think we know is wrong or how big of a role is what we think we know to what really is happening?
00:15:25.080 Well, I think there's been a major effort to control the media and how much information gets to the American public about all sorts of things.
00:15:32.580 If you look at the Epstein case, you're only allowed to talk about his sex crimes from 2000 to 2006.
00:15:38.200 Don't look at his financial crimes or any of the thing he did before the year 2000 is, you know, pretty much how mainstream media handles the case.
00:15:46.120 And that's pretty, you know, there's a lot to find if you go back farther.
00:15:50.240 So when you're you're looking, let's just look at Epstein for a second.
00:15:53.620 When you're looking at his circle of influence, he is somebody who's kind of recruiting, just getting people on tape doing horrible things or raising money.
00:16:06.380 So they're in the pocket. Right. Is that kind of his role?
00:16:10.020 I think that's part of it. But at the same time, you know, he's doing a lot of that.
00:16:13.460 He's also involved in financial, you know, financial crimes pretty much throughout his career.
00:16:18.740 I mean, that's the common thread from Epstein from the 70s until his second race.
00:16:22.700 But they would know that if he was working as an operation, that would kind of be overlooked.
00:16:28.860 I mean, even in January 2020, you have John McCain's wife, Cindy McCain, saying we all knew what Epstein was doing.
00:16:34.740 Right.
00:16:35.140 And this is the wife of a senator with no direct connection to the Epstein scandal.
00:16:39.100 So that means top people in our Congress and Senate knew what Epstein was up to and nothing was done.
00:16:47.020 And so does that I mean, is there a big body count?
00:16:50.960 Around Epstein?
00:16:51.880 Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think there is to an extent.
00:16:54.280 Mark Middleton, who I just mentioned, was found hung by the neck by an extension cord in May with a shotgun wound to the chest.
00:17:02.600 And it was ruled a suicide in Little Rock, Arkansas.
00:17:06.400 And a local court ruled pretty shortly thereafter that no video or, you know, photos of the scene could be publicly released.
00:17:15.860 And this was only after, you know, Mark Middleton had been involved in Chinagate and numerous other scandals.
00:17:21.060 But that only happened just a few months after the visitor logs of him meeting with Epstein was released last December and published by the UK's Daily Mail.
00:17:29.700 So that's one.
00:17:30.820 But that's one recently.
00:17:32.220 You also have Jean-Luc Brunel, who was a major facilitator of his sex trafficking activities, particularly when it came to the modeling industry, turned up dead in his prison cell.
00:17:43.740 You have Epstein himself.
00:17:44.620 And then you have the son of Esther Salas, who was the judge overseeing the Epstein Deutsche Bank case.
00:17:51.060 Murdered at her home.
00:17:54.640 Let's not just gloss over Epstein and his death.
00:17:59.200 Do you believe he hung himself?
00:18:02.100 I think the official story is just, I mean, it's crazy, personally, because, you know, he was a tall guy.
00:18:09.460 He's supposed to have hung himself from something that's shorter than his standing height with, like, paper-thin sheets.
00:18:15.140 He would have had to curl up in the fetal position to hang himself.
00:18:18.180 And he's, you know.
00:18:19.200 You're not going to do that.
00:18:20.040 It's very, it's logistically impossible.
00:18:23.860 We're supposed to believe all the cameras malfunctioned that night.
00:18:27.380 You know, the prison guards were asleep.
00:18:29.380 It's a lot of coincidences.
00:18:30.840 So, who would we have to believe?
00:18:36.140 I mean, that would have to involve lots of government.
00:18:41.460 Lots of government.
00:18:41.740 Sure.
00:18:42.600 But he belonged to intelligence.
00:18:44.440 And if you look at, you know, someone like Robert Maxwell, he died off of his yacht.
00:18:49.540 He had a lot of ties to intelligence.
00:18:51.740 Things were, you know, the walls were closing in on him.
00:18:54.960 I mean, his own daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell, thinks he was murdered by rogue Mossad agents and Sicilian contract hitmen.
00:19:02.960 And that's coming straight from his daughter that worked closely with him.
00:19:06.160 So, if you, you know, if things get too hot, if you, you know, maybe work did work for them in the past, but you become, you know, more of a liability than an asset, you know, things sometimes happen.
00:19:18.180 How does this involve the regular person?
00:19:21.000 Why should the regular person care about this kind of corruption?
00:19:23.540 So, in just talking about Epstein, the financial crimes there are very significant and are just sort of a microcosm of what has basically been the looting of the American public for decades.
00:19:35.120 You look at people like Catherine Austin Fitz and Mark Skidmore, who have calculated about $21 trillion of U.S. taxpayer money.
00:19:41.600 That's just gone missing from the House of Urban Development and the Department of Defense.
00:19:48.440 Right.
00:19:49.240 It's probably more than that.
00:19:51.280 Where is it being?
00:19:53.000 Where'd it go?
00:19:53.380 Where'd it go?
00:19:54.300 Yeah.
00:19:54.760 Who took it?
00:19:55.700 I remember.
00:19:56.460 And it's still happening.
00:19:57.640 And now we're having the standard of life in the U.S. being degraded, inflation's increasing, the squeeze is on, thanks to manufactured food and energy crises.
00:20:06.820 And I think a lot of the stuff we're seeing being built for us, people are currently perhaps unwilling to accept.
00:20:13.180 But when they're cold and hungry and desperate.
00:20:16.340 You're exactly right.
00:20:17.280 And I think that some people will be more willing.
00:20:20.440 So let me, you know, I first ran into you and your work.
00:20:26.280 I don't remember where I saw you, but you were talking about transhumanism.
00:20:29.320 And this is something that, again, I think I was talking about this in the 90s and saying.
00:20:36.740 It's been going on a long time.
00:20:38.120 A long, long time.
00:20:39.220 And saying that this is what life is going to head towards.
00:20:43.060 And it's not good.
00:20:44.660 And we should probably have a conversation now.
00:20:48.240 You know, we are on the verge of this.
00:20:52.280 This is happening.
00:20:53.680 It could happen.
00:20:54.360 Faster than ever, yeah.
00:20:55.080 Yeah, it could happen 20, 25, 30, 35.
00:20:58.860 It's here now.
00:21:00.420 Yeah.
00:21:01.480 Explain what transhumanism is and why it is so dangerous.
00:21:06.800 Yeah, so I'll just probably start with the history of it.
00:21:09.920 So there was a man named Julian Huxley.
00:21:12.860 He's the brother of the famous author Aldous Huxley.
00:21:15.680 He was president of the British Eugenics Society.
00:21:18.120 The United Nations is created after World War II.
00:21:22.120 He is put in charge of UNESCO.
00:21:24.900 In writing his vision for UNESCO, Julian Huxley says about eugenics, we need to make the unthinkable thinkable again.
00:21:31.860 Ten years later, he coins the term transhumanism in a book called.
00:21:35.740 Did he read his brother's work?
00:21:38.880 I'm sure actually that Aldous Huxley's work was influenced by the type of social milieu he inhabited, which would include his brother.
00:21:47.840 And, you know, sort of that, those intellectual circles where both of them grew up, right?
00:21:53.520 You know, this is the British aristocracy.
00:21:55.200 And really a lot of the idea of eugenics going back to Francis Galton and, you know, Darwinism and all of that, it seems to sort of emanate from there.
00:22:04.460 Fabian socialists and all of that.
00:22:06.420 Yes.
00:22:07.680 So in a book in 1957, I believe, called New Bottles for New Wine, something like that, Julian Huxley coins the terms transhumanism and talks about how the new eugenics is going to be merging man with machine.
00:22:20.540 So this is basically eugenics rebranded.
00:22:23.980 And a lot of people that funded eugenics causes of the past, like the Rockefeller family, are, you know, big proponents of transhumanism today.
00:22:33.020 And it's getting increasingly problematic.
00:22:36.180 I would say, you know, if you look, for example, at the new head of the FDA, who very few people have bothered to look into, Robert Califf, he's a former Google Health executive.
00:22:47.720 Google Health has a joint venture with GlaxoSmithKline called Galvani Bioelectronics.
00:22:53.540 I think the former head of that was Monsef Salawi, who was in charge of Operation Warp Speed.
00:22:57.820 And their focus is what they call bioelectronic medicine, which is, you know, injectable nanotechnology that can manipulate your central nervous system.
00:23:08.340 What are the implications of that?
00:23:09.640 We have the person that just purchased Twitter making a brain chip company.
00:23:14.100 He's also a major contractor to the U.S. military.
00:23:17.380 He has a major conflict of interest with Chinese Silicon Valley equivalents like Tencent.
00:23:23.940 He says, and I love this, he says, that's one of the reasons why I want to get off the planet.
00:23:32.000 He says his work is to find a way to, A, compete against the transhumanistic, you know, folly.
00:23:43.180 You don't believe that at all?
00:23:44.640 I don't.
00:23:45.060 I don't buy it, no.
00:23:46.340 If you look at that company, they had animal trials.
00:23:49.540 Many of the monkeys that was tested and died after the brain chip was put in.
00:23:55.720 If that were my company, I would reformulate everything or shut it down if it was going to kill that many animals.
00:24:02.040 But it's already moved into human trials.
00:24:04.780 Even though it's killing all the monkeys.
00:24:06.360 Well, it killed many monkeys.
00:24:07.640 Yeah, I forget the exact number, but a significant portion.
00:24:10.720 This is where it gets frightening.
00:24:13.560 Well, it's tied up with depopulation, right?
00:24:15.380 You have this being sort of the new path of eugenics.
00:24:18.900 And so, you know, I don't think these people ultimately care about, you know, how many people are left, right?
00:24:25.700 You're so smart and right.
00:24:27.700 Well, eugenics is...
00:24:29.060 Thank you.
00:24:30.580 I mean, well, people like to act like eugenics disappeared, and it hasn't.
00:24:33.940 It's just rebranded.
00:24:35.240 And if you look at the history, it's very clear, and it's very disconcerting.
00:24:39.200 I talked to Ray Kurzweil once, and I said, you put the nanotechnology...
00:24:43.860 Just tell me out here, Ray.
00:24:45.480 I'm a science fiction writer.
00:24:47.700 You put the nanotechnology into me, and you control it.
00:24:51.560 Not me.
00:24:52.260 You control it.
00:24:53.740 And I start speaking out about things that you and the powerful don't like.
00:24:58.540 Why don't you just turn me off?
00:25:01.060 Why don't you just...
00:25:01.800 Oh, you know what?
00:25:03.780 And all that nanotechnology, and I just die.
00:25:06.740 Sure.
00:25:07.140 And his response was, because we wouldn't do that.
00:25:12.240 Yeah, let's trust us.
00:25:13.560 How has that gone for the, you know, past hundred years or so?
00:25:17.260 Right.
00:25:17.880 And if organized crime are the people in charge, are you going to trust them?
00:25:21.580 I mean, in the grand scheme of where we've all been upgraded, we're all part of the internet.
00:25:28.940 Upgraded.
00:25:29.120 Yeah, I know.
00:25:29.480 I don't think that's the intention.
00:25:30.860 That's how they're selling it to people.
00:25:32.840 If you look at this, for example, the British Eugenics Society, where a lot of this came from,
00:25:36.620 you look at someone like H.G.
00:25:37.840 Wells, best known as a science fiction writer, but also a vowed eugenicist, he predicted that
00:25:42.920 in 100 to 200 years, there would be two human races.
00:25:47.760 There would be the upgraded, augmented elite who were intellectual and attractive and, you
00:25:55.440 know, were the ones that did everything.
00:25:57.000 And then a dwarf-like, troll-like, squat underclass that eats bugs.
00:26:05.920 And, you know, for people that have been paying attention, it seems like, you know, they're
00:26:11.260 selling this as one way.
00:26:12.860 It's all going to be a utopian thing if we all upgrade.
00:26:18.600 I mean, that's how it's being framed, right?
00:26:20.100 But if you look at how these people think, they don't want that.
00:26:24.280 They're looking at feudalism and how do you create a class of slaves that cannot even cognitively
00:26:31.120 rebel ever again.