Clayton Morris： Truth About the USS Liberty, Europe’s Self-Destruction, & Is Brigitte Macron a Man？
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On this episode of Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough catches up with his good friend and former Fox News colleague Mika Brzezinksi. The two talk about how they met, how they became friends, and what it was like being a Fox News anchor.
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So, the last time, I think the last time we were physically together was when we worked together at Fox News.
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Hosting a morning show whose name I will not mention. I've always been embarrassed in the name of that show.
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There's some nice people on the show, nice people working on the show. I don't want to attack the show, but the name always made me cringe.
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I think you're the only person I've ever seen leave an anchor position in television voluntarily.
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They wait to get destroyed in a sex scandal or, you know, get dementia or something.
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But you actually just left and went into business and were successful.
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And then you moved to Europe with your family, your beautiful family.
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And then the next time I heard of you, I was taking my trash out.
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And my neighbor goes, did you see what Clayton and Natalie said?
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And I'm like, I only know one Clayton and Natalie.
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Anyway, and then I dove in and I saw that you had become legit successful in a completely different business saying things that I loved and that were true and really brave.
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So it's just great to see you after all this time.
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I don't run up and give you a hug because it's been eight or nine years.
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And I find it very difficult to relate to people that haven't been beat up, scratched, beat up, gone through the ringer, you know?
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It's like operating at a different level now, you know?
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I do remember in commercial breaks, because on those morning shows you have really long commercial breaks.
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And then, you know, one anchor will take a segment or whatever.
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There's like a lot of time sitting on the dumb couch.
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I'd like stare off into space like a dog or text my wife naughty things.
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But you are constantly either doing business or reading about things.
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You're totally absorbed in your studies and your work in commercial breaks.
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Like, how did that—I've never even asked you.
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But, you know, you realize, oh, I've been doing the same sort of segments over and over again.
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You know, you're doing like the same breakfast cereal segment over and over again after 10 years.
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And you're saying, okay, I want something different now.
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I want to be able to see my kids on the weekend.
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I don't want to have to wake up at 3.30 in the morning, you know, and when everyone else is at the park with their kids on a weekend.
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You know, people at bagel shops and stuff like that.
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And my wife would send me pictures of what the kids were doing, you know, making little projects or things.
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And I would be at work, which is, you know, great.
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So then, you know, it was after 10 years, I said, okay, enough is enough.
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And it's time to do something for myself and for my family.
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And then we thought about where in the world we would live.
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And we started thinking bigger about, well, maybe we'll just have this adventure and go to Europe and give that a shot.
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And we thought, well, Portugal, that's close enough to the East Coast.
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It's actually faster to fly from the East Coast of the U.S. to Lisbon than it is from the East Coast to San Francisco, where my wife's family is from.
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And things were getting crazy in the United States at the time.
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Descending into, you know, a crime haven, wide open, you know, borders and all of that.
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And so, it was an opportunity, I think, for us to go there.
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And then I started thinking, wait a second, because I can't just sit still.
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Like, you know, I don't want to choose an easy life.
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So, I enjoy creating and making things and trying things and, you know, I don't know, building a channel.
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And all of those things are interesting to me and always been fascinating to me.
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But you'll find out really quickly if you're doing it and you don't love it, it'll fizzle out after, like, a month, you know.
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So, I always encourage people, yeah, just try things, you know.
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And if it speaks to you, and, you know, then you'll do it.
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So, I realize we're there in Europe and we've got a five-hour time difference, a jump on sort of the morning of the East Coast of the United States.
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And I'm a news junkie, so I'm always constantly seeing what was going on and watching what's going on with COVID.
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And I remember years ago, because I lived in Los Angeles, I hated being three hours behind the East Coast.
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And I worked on a morning show called Good Day LA, and I was a producer then.
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And I hated, it was like two in the morning, knowing that, like, people on the East Coast already had to kind of jump on the world.
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So, now I had a five-hour jump on the East Coast, you know.
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And I said, you know, I'm going to start to do, like, a morning show.
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Again, I grew up doing morning shows for 20 years.
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But now I don't have to wake up at three in the morning.
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And started it during COVID, really during all of the lies that were pouring out of COVID.
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And at the time, my father was, had just gotten, just had a stroke.
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It was, you know, going through not being able to see him in a hospital.
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And hearing the ridiculous rules that were unfolding, both in Europe but in the United States, about COVID and lockdowns and standing six feet apart and, you know, nursing homes in New York and Andrew Cuomo.
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All of these things were converging, I think, at the same time.
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And printing money, we're just going to hand out thousands of dollars in checks to people and keep them home and no businesses will run.
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We're going to, you know, all these farmers had to, we're killing animals.
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It just, that was really the impetus for me to start the show.
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More, I realized we're not talking most about money.
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We're really talking about a lot of redacted things.
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And that's where I came up with the idea for the name Redacted because we were holding up, like, Pfizer's own documents on the show and, like, they're redacted or UFO files that were redacted.
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And I said, I just was sitting there one afternoon just kind of contemplating and I said, that's the name of the show, just Redacted.
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And then I conned my wife into doing the show with me.
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She's an amazing writer and really an amazing researcher.
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And I said, you're going to do the show with me.
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It's just been amazing to watch her, this sort of San Francisco liberal, like, transform.
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It's so amazing to watch her be angry at all the lies that she's been told over the years that she's, she's angrier than me because I was sort of in it.
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You know, and I worked at Fox and I was seeing the pattern of lies.
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And I didn't quite understand the neocon pattern of lies as well as I, as I do now.
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Well, but she, you know, who would read Hillary Clinton's books back in the day and, you know, all of that now she's warmonger, you know, and it's been amazing to see her come alive with that.
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I said, yes, but I've, I've known a lot of this, what, you know, Obama has droned these people and, and, and, but she's amazing.
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She's, you know, she's now run with it in such a way that I'm just so, I'm just so touched to watch.
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And I think we, we do a great job together and kind of keeping each other in balance.
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Well, it's certainly been successful, like way more than anyone would have predicted, probably even you.
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I would have thought this is just going to be a drop in the ocean.
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No, no, no, I checked your numbers this morning.
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Quite, quite successful and, and well-deserved and just an amazing story.
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You spent five years in Portugal at a time when Europe was really, really changing or, or the changes that had already taken place to become, I think, more obvious to those paying attention.
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What was your view after living there for that long?
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First, let me say the, so I want to be respectful of the Portuguese people.
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That, and I feel really terribly for the, the Portuguese people who, in many ways, and this is across Europe, they've really given up their power to Brussels.
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So 80% of all the decisions that are really made in Portugal aren't made in Portugal.
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So they have to fund the boondoggle in Ukraine.
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They have to send the one tank that they have from the 1970s that might, may or may not still be working to Ukraine because of some dog and pony show propaganda.
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The Portuguese, the millions of Portuguese people have no say over their own lives or where their money goes or anything.
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And transact the way that they want to be able to transact in cash the way that they want.
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It's all outsourced, you know, to Christine Lagarde or Ursula von der Leyen in, in Brussels who get to tell them how to live their lives.
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And, uh, the Portuguese people do not like the European Union.
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I think most people in the European Union, I can't speak for everyone, of course, but you ask the common person, the worker, the, the laborer, the restaurant owner, the Adega owner, uh, do the, do you like the European Union?
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They don't know the unelected people in Brussels.
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They know their local, uh, you know, local county representatives and those individuals, but those people are all hamstrung by what happens in Brussels.
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Just to give you an idea, like, I don't know if you saw, I think it was last year, maybe a year and a half ago now, Christine Lagarde was, was, I think, punked, but told some pretty open truths about Europeans being able to transact with cash.
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And, uh, she said, she said in this fake interview that, uh, that on the gray market, if you spend more than a certain couple hundred dollars of euros, that you're considered part of the gray market, AKA a terrorist.
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So if you spend it on like nuclear materials or small arms or no, no pay your gardener, you're a terrorist.
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So, yeah, if you're buying plutonium to create the flux capacitor in order to travel back in time, you might be on the gray market.
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And if you look across Europe, every European country has a different threshold.
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If you spend more than a thousand euros in cash, you're considered on the gray market, AKA a terrorist.
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And across the board, the European threshold now is 10,000 euros to be able to transact in cash.
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And anything more than that, you're on the gray market.
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And so therefore, if you use cash, they, then you're a terrorist.
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But terrorists don't use open borders that they created.
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Terrorists adhere to local state regulations and laws.
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So what I saw happening in Europe was, you know, when we emigrated to Portugal, we had to go through massive hoops and hurdles of paperwork to show that we were people of means.
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To show that we weren't going to leech off of their system.
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Let's be respectful of your country, your tax laws.
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We, we found out there were a lot of people who would do sort of like digital nomad type work.
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They're like the Instagram girls that go on the beach.
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They, they pretend that they're working on a laptop, you know, and they're really, I mean, come on.
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And so we would hear, we heard that like, don't do that because the European commit, they're watching, like they're watching you for tax purposes.
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We had no intention of like not paying our taxes here.
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So we went through, made sure everything was legit, met with the tax authority, got, set our business up, all of it, paperwork, got our residency cards, all of those pieces that you would normally do if you're coming into a country legally and you're going to, you're being respectful of their laws.
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So I don't want to say I'm elite or something, but there's much more regulation for someone like me than there are for criminals.
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So you can just come across the border and then just, you know, have gang opportunities and do whatever you want, I guess, if you're a criminal.
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But if you're, if you're a person of means who has children and wants to do things legitimately, then you're going to have to jump through massive amounts of hoops and hurdles in order to immigrate.
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Want to go, you know, go to a park and be a part of a gang and, you know, and attack young girls?
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They've had wide open borders all across Europe and now they're reaping what they've sowed.
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It seems like a society that wants to kill itself.
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But if you talk to the Portuguese people or you talk to the European people, whether you're in Belgium and I, and I've gotten, since I lived there, traveled all over that area.
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Talk to, you know, talk to an inn owner in Scotland, for instance.
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But they've conceded, you know, they've conceded their power to this unelected body in Brussels that runs the show.
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I mean, you saw it on display over the past few weeks.
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Vladimir Zelensky comes to the White House, gets a dressing down.
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And that little cocaine-sniffing troll is there, you know.
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He didn't, he looked like a deer in headlights.
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And then he's totally welcomed with open arms in Europe.
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Ursula von der Leyen in her half a can of hairspray hair.
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I'm sure there's like a squirrel living in there somewhere.
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And by the way, what's hilarious to me and to Natalie as well, we joke about these people in Europe, that the people that are now a part of like the European Commission in Belgium, they've all failed up.
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This is what Natalie likes to say, they've failed up because all of these people, whether it's Marco Ruta in the Netherlands, who's kicked out of the Netherlands, is now the head of NATO.
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Costa, huge scandal in Portugal, is now sitting in Brussels.
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Ursula von der Leyen, I'm trying to think who else, who else has failed up.
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All around that table are people who've basically failed up.
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They've basically been kicked out of their countries, but then they get elevated in positions of power in Brussels, which is hilarious.
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One thing I've learned just from this whole last five years is that female leaders are not what I thought they were.
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When I was a kid in the 70s, you used to hear feminists say, give a woman a chance.
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I mean, all the women in my life are peaceful and loving.
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And so I kind of thought that's probably true, actually.
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But then we wind up with all these female leaders who are the most warlike and bloodthirsty and just can't wait to murder people.
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I mean, she would kill people without even flinching.
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She publicly said that she cares more about the Ukrainian people than her own German people.
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I mean, you see that in our country, the most warlike, the, you know, quickest to Dick Cheney's repulsive little daughter.
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I think it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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So, it'd be an interesting sort of sociological look.
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To look at Hillary Clinton's father, to look at Susan Rice's father, to look at Victoria Nuland's father.
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So, how do you, I mean, I don't know if it's noble, but how do the, you know, the citizens with no power in a place like Portugal feel about the idea of marching off to war with Russia?
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You know, Portugal has a long history, of course, of war.
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They've done it to a great degree around the world.
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So, they don't want to be a part of that anymore.
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And, in fact, many ways, when I first moved there, I thought the United States could learn a lot about the Portuguese, the sort of colonizing and the empire building.
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And what it does to your country, you know, what it does to destroy your country, what it does to your culture.
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So, the United States could learn quite a bit about saying, eh, we tried that.
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We're in, you know, operations in Haiti, for crying out loud.
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We have over 900 military bases around the world.
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I'm sure there are neocons who would argue against that.
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Well, in fact, Clayton, there are neocons who argue against that.
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We need to have an island that was unoccupied in Japan, is now a U.S. military base, you know, basically two years ago.
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You know, we need to have a massive new NATO base in Poland.
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So, the European people, and I can't, again, I can't speak for all of them, but I mean, the Portuguese people that I know absolutely don't want war.
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It was amazing to watch because as this whole theater was unfolding in Ukraine, the Portuguese just basically, they kind of go along with it.
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I mean, they were a socialist government up until, well, still, you know, led by socialists, but they were really, you know, under Salazar up until the 70s.
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So, when the government tells them to do something, they do it.
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You know, when they get a text alert telling them they need to go and get their COVID shot, the Portuguese are rule followers.
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And when you have a government that threatens you.
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You know, and you're just trying to take care of your family.
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You don't want something to happen to your children.
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You don't want to get some nasty gram in the mail threatening your life.
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So, they get a text message, go and get your next, you know, second COVID shot.
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They were at a report to a center to go and do that, you know.
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And I would get in fights because I'm an American.
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People would tell me to put on a mask, you know, authorities.
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And I would yell at them about putting on a COVID mask.
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And my wife would be like, hey, just, you know.
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So, I just would yell at the ridiculousness of these things.
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For instance, there's a thing along in Qashqaiish Bay.
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I don't know if you've ever had a chance to go to Qashqaiish, which is just outside of Lisbon.
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It's a beautiful little, like, very, like, wealthy area, I guess.
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So, you get a lot of different, you know, French there, British there, wealthy Portuguese.
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But anyway, there's a big seawall called the Peridao.
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And it runs along the ocean for about five kilometers.
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And while we were renting an apartment there for a little while, I would walk the dog along there.
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There's, like, workout equipment, the whole thing.
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They put, like, the police tape around all the outside workout equipment that sits in the sun, by the way.
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You couldn't, you know, do any pull-ups or anything like that because I guess COVID could survive out in this by the ocean.
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Like, I don't know if you've ever had a bicycle by the ocean.
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But COVID can survive on workout equipment in the sun.
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So, I'm glad they put police tape all around this stuff.
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So, you know, you would walk along this Peridao.
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And there would be surfers out in the water still kind of breaking the rules and the police.
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So, the surfers were constantly running from the police because they – Portuguese love surfing.
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They have some of the best surfers in the world.
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So, they're out surfing and the police would pull down and the surfers, you'd see them scatter along the waves and run up the banks to get away from the police who were constantly chasing them out of the ocean surfing while they were – you know, while COVID was striking, you know.
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Wait, can I just pause and say what's interesting is, I mean, a country like that needs a revolution.
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I'm against violence, but it needs a revolution.
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Like any government that do that to its own people needs to be overthrown in some way or another.
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But I bet you that Portugal, like the rest of the West, didn't even come close.
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I mean, when they told you to stay inside, there was no one on the street.
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You know, the rule on the weekend was you had to be in your house by noon.
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You couldn't – or noon or – yeah, noon or two o'clock, forgive me for – but it was right around the – you know.
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Once you were done with your lunch, basically, you couldn't be on the streets.
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And, you know, I never left the house anyway, so it was okay for me.
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So I'd just take a walk with a dog or whatever.
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I mean, it was like overwhelming – it's like Israel.
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I think it was like overwhelming, like everyone got it, right?
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In Israel, I think everyone – well, I don't know, but I keep reading that.
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Because I'm sure they'll keep it hidden from us.
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And I've been very curious about the Israeli data.
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They had some of the best reporting, like their VAERS system.
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It's way better than the United States for data.
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Which is the vaccine injury, self-reported vaccine injury.
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So only a fraction of injuries were reported to the VAERS system in the United States.
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So we know that a fraction – in Israel, they have all the data.
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I would love to know what all that vaccine injury data looks like if they ever come forward with it fully.
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And maybe they have, and I haven't seen it yet, but that would be fascinating to look into.
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I'm sure someone out there would look into that.
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Like we were – so thank God, like our kids, nothing like that.
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But all the kids, like every – like Portuguese, as far as I know, had to – was required.
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We would get text alerts like, get your kids vaccinated.
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So, again, I would love to know what the actual data is from Europe once all the dust settles from this.
00:29:15.260
The white fibrous clots that we're seeing, of course, through – all across the United States now, the massive white fibrous clots that we're seeing from people living and dead that undertakers are seeing in the United States at record levels.
00:29:32.340
Where are these – oh, I've been an undertaker for 40 years.
00:29:35.460
I've never once seen these massive white fibrous clots that seem to have begun in the past few years as a result of something.
00:29:51.060
So, yeah, all that to say, like walking along that seawall, I just – to make this analogy, that's all roped off 40 feet of wide open space.
00:30:00.880
But you can walk up the street on the sidewalk – in Portia, the sidewalks are like this big.
00:30:05.800
Like you could fit basically me on the sidewalk.
00:30:12.560
I can't walk down here where I'm going to walk into somebody.
00:30:18.940
Up there, I have to pass right next to somebody and that's their law.
00:30:25.400
In many ways, it was worse than the United States.
00:30:27.020
But nobody got together and said, hey, we need to overthrow this tyrannical government.
00:30:32.040
So, that is like the deep last – no, I mean, if you grew up in the United States,
00:30:35.460
hearing about, which I'm sure no one ever mentions at this point, but, you know, the
00:30:39.720
Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution and, you know, free people determined to remain
00:30:43.960
free and throwing off the yoke of tyranny and using arms to do it.
00:30:49.140
But also, but more than just violence, but, you know, explaining why they're doing it.
00:30:57.180
If you grew up hearing about that, then you think, well, that, you know, that desire to
00:31:07.880
But there's no evidence that anybody is organizing to push back against this.
00:31:13.480
And I just want to say really clearly, I think they should.
00:31:19.800
I mean, over the past few days, massive protests in Paris.
00:31:22.980
Against Emmanuel Macron and the French funding of Ukraine.
00:31:27.680
I would definitely see demonstrations, people organizing, but not very large.
00:31:33.920
And you have to understand also, there's massive censorship.
00:31:37.700
And there are, you know, you will be, we have canceling, you know, cancel culture.
00:31:44.440
I have journalist friends in Portugal who lost their jobs because they spoke out.
00:31:54.280
And they were telling the Portuguese people what was actually happening in Ukraine.
00:31:58.080
And they were fired from their positions at university.
00:32:01.320
In Portugal, they would fire an on-air journalist for opposing the Ukraine war.
00:32:07.860
I'm just glad that would never happen in the United States.
00:32:13.620
It's been amazing to me to watch the unfolding, the propaganda.
00:32:21.580
So, a few weeks ago, Zelensky's in the Oval Office.
00:32:29.420
And it was like, bring your kid to work day, you know, at the Oval Office.
00:32:34.740
And, like, let daddy speak now here in the Oval Office about what's actually happening.
00:32:41.400
Suddenly, then, of course, social media exploded with people for the first time.
00:32:45.420
It seemed like understanding that, wait a second, this isn't all as it seems here.
00:32:49.180
And then, of course, you had the massive, the same massive army, the bot army and everything else from a few years ago that was really defending the war in Ukraine, which had really been lessened over the past few years.
00:33:00.640
I don't know if their CIA farm, you know, bot farms or whatever were drying up in Ukraine.
00:33:06.620
The CIA was, like, repositioning resources for how they were going to carry that out.
00:33:12.640
It was like, oh, my God, they flipped the servers back on or something like that.
00:33:15.340
You know, Victoria Nuland got on the phone and was like, hey, get those, you know, get the websites back up again.
00:33:20.560
Get the bot army, you know, going on social media and trying to protect the war in Ukraine because now Trump was showing the truth here.
00:33:29.040
And J.D. Vance was showing the truth that was unfolding.
00:33:31.560
So it's been this unbelievable resurgence over the past few weeks to the propaganda for Ukraine.
00:33:39.720
You saw the massive Ukrainian flag being unfurled in Washington, D.C. the other day.
00:33:51.220
Ukrainian flags are now back in people's windows again.
00:33:54.020
People are putting the Ukrainian flags back in their social media profiles again.
00:33:58.560
Like, what the hell's going on in the past few days?
00:34:12.220
it's a lot of people actually all of a sudden are like,
00:34:26.180
I think the United States has destroyed his country.
00:34:27.980
I think the Biden administration destroyed his country.
00:34:29.540
I actually don't think it's really Zelensky's fault, if I'm being honest.
00:34:34.100
And yet, all these people, some of them with jobs,
00:34:48.900
Because something that's happened to me over the past year,
00:35:20.480
but I think you even used to work there a few years ago,
00:35:56.640
cheer-led the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline,
00:36:03.180
So, these people who have access to the information,
01:35:04.440
children and his family either you know and uh i
01:36:35.680
like we were trying to make it to this show as a
01:36:44.700
tourists and they were it was eight o'clock and
01:36:49.480
says we're closing well no we can't we can't we
01:36:54.820
freezing we're just trying to find this location
01:36:56.640
can we please you know get to this location can
01:36:58.740
you help us with i can't i'm sorry no more help i
01:37:02.380
out and i you know maybe it was the philadelphia
01:37:05.200
in me i just flipped out i said well thanks for
01:37:06.920
the effing you know uh um thanks for the the effing
01:37:13.480
out and then she she kind of calmly said okay oh
01:37:16.040
you're looking for the shakespeare theater okay well
01:37:25.020
know it's just not proud of those moments no but i
01:37:27.800
mean that's i do think like you can extrapolate
01:37:33.180
that's like if the men aren't willing to defend
01:37:36.220
it first of all things get very jumpy and chaotic
01:37:39.360
inside as people feel undefended yeah and it makes
01:37:46.000
true that you get invaded yeah do we have like a
01:37:48.580
nation of beta males right now we get invaded how
01:37:51.040
could you allow 15 million illegal aliens in your
01:37:53.640
country and i always used to think this about the
01:37:58.380
guess but like he sat there for four years and let
01:38:01.660
millions of people who had no right to be here at
01:38:04.660
all and in most cases honestly probably not any
01:38:07.920
conceivable benefit the united states invade his
01:38:10.880
country and like destroy ranches destroy the physical
01:38:12.960
environment make it dirtier texas has gotten way
01:38:15.720
dirtier way dirtier and oh yes literally in the past
01:38:19.660
five years and he never sent his national guard to the
01:38:22.820
border and i confronted him twice in person about
01:38:25.200
it's off camera but like what are you doing dude
01:38:27.160
oh it's very complicated it's not complicated and you've
01:38:29.540
confronted him on camera i have no i've been mean you
01:38:32.180
know abbott's a perfectly nice guy i don't think he's
01:38:35.640
worshiping satan or anything i i like greg abbott but
01:38:38.000
like what is that that's your most basic duty you got a
01:38:41.540
home invasion dude go get your gun so that to me is even
01:38:44.420
one of the obvious pieces of it which is these people are
01:38:46.780
literally you see them coming across your border they're
01:38:48.960
taking over ranches they're killing people yes but they've
01:38:52.140
actually set up entire communities with homes in your
01:38:54.940
own in texas in the state not only that huge which used to
01:39:00.180
be walmart facilities are now massive child sex trafficking
01:39:03.880
operations okay so i take it back i don't like ebbott because
01:39:06.440
you're right you're right it's under his watch it's too much
01:39:08.840
evil that's right and you have to blame the leader no one ever
01:39:11.320
blames the leader yeah like if your country that's another
01:39:14.120
thing it's like russia's better than it was 25 years ago does anyone
01:39:17.740
can anyone say it's not it is so like okay you could say putin
01:39:21.900
does a lot of bad things i think that's true on the other hand
01:39:24.880
his country's better like that counts for something our country's worse
01:39:27.900
and we never hold any of our leaders accountable it's like that was a
01:39:31.220
massive fuck up the afghan withdrawal you know whatever the iraq war
01:39:33.960
the destruction of new york city chicago going back to gary indiana and
01:39:37.680
baltimore like who did that yeah and then they named bridges after the
01:39:41.860
people who destroy the city it's i can't believe the lack of
01:39:44.800
accountability my wife would shoot me if i led my
01:39:48.400
family like that she just she'd just shoot me because that's criminal
01:39:51.660
right she would come in and she would just put you out of your misery
01:39:55.500
and i would deserve it yeah you're leading our family
01:39:58.540
like this you're done all my kids are homeless fentanyl addicts yeah i think
01:40:02.160
that's a failure sorry i do yeah well like assad right i mean
01:40:05.800
syria used to be one of the most peaceful countries in the world
01:40:08.360
but people don't want to admit it you know and so
01:40:11.120
you know and uh but bad location but we have to like poland in ukraine
01:40:16.280
caught between larger powers but we need to hate assad we need to
01:40:18.940
hate putin but we can't hate our own leaders enough
01:40:22.020
and these people still get you know they fail up as my wife likes to say
01:40:25.380
these people in washington are now running you know these people who failed
01:40:28.920
and destroyed our country are put in charge of things it's unbelievable to me
01:40:32.680
so now that you've moved back to the united states obviously you never
01:40:36.580
announced your citizenship you're always have been american with a lot of
01:40:39.300
family here but now you're living here and on you know the very beginning of
01:40:44.380
this new administration what are the things that you're
01:40:47.040
looking forward to that you're hopeful for what changes do you think this
01:40:51.940
administration will make that will make the country better
01:40:54.680
you know i live in colorado and i saw firsthand
01:40:58.100
you know families texting and family groups concerns about hey you know the
01:41:06.060
just rob this just rob that i'm hoping that violent criminals are sent back to
01:41:11.380
their countries uh number one and i think i kind of fall in
01:41:15.580
line with where most americans were doing with you know exit polling and what
01:41:20.120
they wanted which was um that they wanted the economy to work for
01:41:24.500
the american people and they wanted their borders secure and safety i think
01:41:29.040
that's what most families want i wanted to work with ron that's just me
01:41:37.540
that's an institute yeah yeah okay i i've become really you know i i'm going back to
01:41:43.260
i know the word isolationist is kind of a bad thing
01:41:45.960
people throw that according to whom well a lot of you know a lot of neocons
01:41:49.800
think it's a bad thing and they and they they try to sort of
01:41:52.500
cover up with george washington in many ways to try to cover up his words on
01:41:56.260
isolationism and you know in his farewell address telling
01:41:59.500
america to stay out of foreign government's businesses
01:42:01.560
um and uh you know i know we get this idea this sort of
01:42:10.220
like a global economy and we need to you know everything needs to be open and
01:42:13.960
there doesn't need to be i want a world without borders you know i i don't want
01:42:17.620
any of that i i think in many ways i want america
01:42:20.260
to go back to what i studied and loved and fell in love with as a you know
01:42:23.760
as a u.s history major yes i would sit in my bedroom as a child and read
01:42:28.060
these massive ass history books you know everything you know david mccullough books
01:42:31.900
and and all of this stuff and and um reading about george washington and
01:42:36.380
thomas jefferson and yes uh and i and i loved it i uh you know i the thing
01:42:42.540
about isolationism is in the united states that it acknowledges reality and
01:42:47.060
the reality the physical reality is the united states is isolated
01:42:49.580
yeah it's isolated from the other major civilizations in the world
01:42:52.960
right and that's been a massive benefit it's not lichtenstein
01:42:56.600
it's not hungary it's not poland it's not ukraine it doesn't
01:42:59.600
have to deal with the problems that those wonderful countries i'm not attacking
01:43:03.080
them but they have all these problems that we just don't inherently have
01:43:05.760
because of the pacific and atlantic oceans so yeah geography matters and i don't
01:43:09.860
understand so it's mostly rich people who are pushing this and isolationism is
01:43:13.320
bad why don't they pay for these wars themselves i've never understood that
01:43:16.620
it's like attach yourself to the u.s government and then force its citizens
01:43:22.020
to pay for like your pet war why doesn't you know why don't these people pay for
01:43:27.360
themselves right they could if they wanted to i'm aware they could fully fund
01:43:31.420
it i mean when bernie sanders was uh out there pushing to tax you know to
01:43:36.120
increase taxes for the wealthy um i think it was the cato institute or
01:43:40.080
somebody set up a a website where all of these like wealthy politicians who
01:43:44.220
are now millionaires bernie sanders elizabeth warren nancy pelosi they could
01:43:47.840
all donate millions of dollars if they want like you want to you put the
01:43:52.060
money here and they could go fight the wars by the way too right i mean i think
01:43:55.260
most of these hedge fund billionaires who've been pushing the u.s
01:43:58.760
government to pay for all these absurd wars and still are they could send their
01:44:03.040
billions to whatever foreign country they wanted or whatever armed group they
01:44:05.900
want to support and then they could go join their ranks but they want they just
01:44:09.540
want to make the money so the the you know the palanteers of the world that
01:44:12.820
want to you know make money off the backs of the technocracy in this country and
01:44:17.460
make money by now you know setting up a biometric border wall at the southern
01:44:21.980
border or you know using their technology ai technology to carry out you know drone
01:44:27.840
operations wherever you know they're going to make they're going to continue to
01:44:30.760
make billions of dollars off of the war unless we sort of flip the paradigm it
01:44:33.940
comes back to your christian point earlier and i hadn't thought about in
01:44:36.700
those terms but it's it's deeply disturbing because if it is you know we
01:44:41.780
want peace i hope for this administration that they are able to get
01:44:45.120
us out of all these wars i would love for the trump administration to take the
01:44:49.400
50 000 troops in europe and put them in the united states and secure our southern
01:44:54.420
border we had over a hundred years of united states forces on our southern border
01:44:58.360
this is not like a new idea so in germany's had a hundred years of foreign
01:45:03.260
troops on its soil and no one responsible for the atrocities of the
01:45:08.340
nazi regime is still alive and so maybe you just sort of let the
01:45:12.320
germans be a country again i think that's fair i don't think foreign
01:45:15.860
troops on your soil is good for your country at all that's why the germans are
01:45:18.280
suicidal which they are and like what is the point how long is this going to go on
01:45:25.160
yeah it's a little more complicated because of china but i do agree with
01:45:29.140
that in korea for that matter has not been good
01:45:30.980
for japan or korea north korea has a much higher birth rate than south korea
01:45:35.460
what is that i didn't know that much higher well much higher i know the birth
01:45:39.560
gap over there is terrible south korea is one of the lowest and i i just want to
01:45:43.320
say i love south korea and i love the people almost more than any other country
01:45:47.220
just wonderful people so i'm not attacking them i feel sorry for them but
01:45:49.900
their country's evaporating it's dying japan as well and japan as well
01:45:53.820
another country i absolutely love everyone who visits japan is like this
01:45:56.460
is incredible which it is because the people are incredible right and but
01:46:03.200
something to you it turns you into it reduces you well i've talked to
01:46:09.540
friends in poland who've told me they would love for nato to break up
01:46:12.900
they would love for the nato bases to close in poland for american forces to not
01:46:19.180
be on their soil anymore um you know this idea that we need nato as a defensive
01:46:24.360
organization is is a complete crock of garbage i mean it's never been a
01:46:28.780
defensive organization just look at operation gladio for crying out loud
01:46:32.820
um what is operation gladio so the nato terrorist armies that were left behind
01:46:38.980
after world war ii um operation gladio was only revealed in the
01:46:43.260
1990s documents have finally come out about it but operation gladio was
01:46:48.380
basically the instigation of terrorism at the hand of nato forces uh the
01:46:53.640
bologna massacre in italy uh belgium uh i'm embarrassed i don't even know what
01:46:58.660
you're talking about well most people don't because it's all hidden and they
01:47:01.820
want people to believe what was the bologna massacre well using nato forces to
01:47:06.620
basically compound myself saying i'm so self-confident i will admit to being
01:47:10.880
totally ignorant of something i should know about i didn't know what i'm
01:47:13.660
grateful you're here so what was the bologna massacre i don't know
01:47:16.780
and i will admit my ignorance on the full details of it yes but it you know took
01:47:22.180
place in bologna uh and nato nato forces instigating
01:47:26.860
violence killing individuals in order to prevent you know soviets basically from
01:47:34.680
coming into italy the same with in belgium with uh with attacks there and
01:47:38.520
violence there against its own people so these nato terrorist armies were used
01:47:43.080
again almost like false flag operations so again false flags work this was in the
01:47:47.080
era of like many false flags so operation gladio people can look it up it was the
01:47:52.180
documents were finally revealed in the 1990s there's a great book on it called
01:47:56.040
the nato terrorist armies but it's never been a defensive organization and
01:47:59.760
anyone who says that as being completely disingenuous people point to
01:48:02.940
yugoslavia that's a big piece of it but that's even just a part of it these
01:48:06.900
stand up these these nato stand up behind armies these terrorist armies all
01:48:11.720
across europe were basically meant to prevent russia or soviet union from
01:48:16.660
gathering a foothold in certain countries by carrying out false flag
01:48:19.500
operations so uh and committing terrorism that's exactly what they did and
01:48:23.580
that's what nato has been it's never been a defensive organization
01:48:26.360
i want to hit one more topic so just big picture i have to again if you had said
01:48:34.080
any of this five years ago people would be like clayton's nice guy good guy cute
01:48:38.680
kids nice wife but obviously he's profoundly mentally ill um i don't think
01:48:44.000
people think that anymore but the one story that i have seen in the past few
01:48:48.720
years that i was just like i i can't go there that's just flat earth stuff is that
01:48:53.580
is uh the brigitte macron emmanuel macron president of france's wife
01:48:57.220
um was accused first by french journalists and then by my friend candace owens who's
01:49:03.980
one of the nicest people i've ever met actually um yeah she's very smart she's
01:49:08.560
incredible is she you know she and everyone's always candace owens a hater
01:49:12.000
candace is the opposite of a hater but she's a very kind person but um anyway but she comes
01:49:19.800
out and she's like i i will wager my professional credibility on the claim that macron's wife is
01:49:28.200
actually a man and i was like i was like oh candace owens i love you but i think this is
01:49:35.040
too too crazy yeah and then it turns out she's right yeah what is so can you just explain my mind
01:49:43.140
is blown well my wife has been by the way the candace owens pieces on this are phenomenal and so
01:49:48.700
i'll be sitting there my wife i'm like what are you watching she's like i'm watching candace owens
01:49:52.020
his whole deep dive on this so let's give credit you know i'm giving full credit to candace owens
01:49:56.980
on this for for really opening this story up from the french journalists who first broke it and then
01:50:02.000
were i think like ostracized or basically told not to to report it so that yeah i mean she's a he's
01:50:10.260
a groomer so like i mean the fact that emmanuel macron was a child and this man
01:50:18.560
takes him under his wing and is a groomer uses the identity of another human being i mean i'm
01:50:26.560
definitely shortening the story in all of these ways but i don't know the full details the way
01:50:31.800
that candace does for sure but bridgete macron is a man who groomed emmanuel macron and in their
01:50:41.160
i mean the amazing thing to me is the french portrait that they have you know the the presidential
01:50:45.200
portrait or whatever in the background you can see like a a pedophile book that's painted in on
01:50:51.460
purpose like you can't make this stuff up what the official like french portrait painting there's in
01:50:59.040
the in the background of it you can see like a basically a pedophile book that's been painted in
01:51:04.400
on purpose um and other paintings that brigitte macron was famous for having around in the in the
01:51:11.100
palace all these really awful looking things that you know you've got pictures of a barn
01:51:15.500
here like the stuff that brigitte likes to hang around it's like it's like pedophilia stuff on the
01:51:21.440
walls so it's incredibly crazy what is it with pedophilia i mean pedophilia is one of those things
01:51:28.800
that it's like it's so and i can relate to almost any sin but i just want to be clear i'm not being
01:51:35.600
holier than thou i mean there's i've done bad things i have had you know bad impulses i can
01:51:41.360
kind of understand why people get pissed and shoot each other or steal or you know i don't but i get
01:51:47.460
it road rage yeah completely yeah you know there but for the grace of god that's how i sometimes feel
01:51:52.140
but pedophilia like that's something that i can honestly say with a clean conscience never even
01:51:57.780
occurred to me that's like so yeah i can say it too what is that it's and to me and what's what's
01:52:04.740
it's on its on its surface is oh it's absolutely terrible but then when you go even a layer deeper
01:52:10.800
when there's a whole mechanism protecting these people who are all actively involved in it in
01:52:15.980
hollywood in washington dc funneling i mean again not to go back to it but it's all part of this
01:52:23.080
operation with these elites who when you have these children for instance in guatemala the what is 197
01:52:28.760
000 guatemalan children that were funneled into the united states and were then funneled to be used
01:52:36.580
in the sex trade in the united states the united states is the largest purveyor of child sex
01:52:43.040
trafficking in the world the world and we bring more children into the united states and are used
01:52:49.000
for sex slavery than any country in the world when trump was asked where are these children uh these
01:52:55.000
300 400 000 children and trump said i think they're dead trump was honest about it they are they're used
01:53:01.320
and abused and thrown away and so when you have people like brigitte macron who are like groomers of
01:53:06.460
children it makes sense that they would be protected it does and these elite circles it's incredibly
01:53:11.440
disgusting i never thought i would get to a place where i would like nod as somebody said our elites are
01:53:15.700
trafficking children for pedophilia but actually once you see what's going on it makes sense because what
01:53:22.040
is pedophilia it's a spiritual it's not i i do think that it's more than just a diseased sexual impulse
01:53:30.060
though it's clearly that yeah but it's the desire to defile purity yeah i think that's what it is yeah i think
01:53:36.560
the appeal is you take a child who is pure physically untouched not corrupted by adult desire and you destroy
01:53:46.740
that yeah and that's the charge it's that's just that's a spiritual thing that's that's like
01:53:52.420
that's like child sacrifice it's like yeah which is ubiquitous and by the way it's still happening i
01:53:58.520
mean it's it's a it's just to me it's just part of the same thing the you know it's the the child sex
01:54:05.280
trafficking and then they're they're killing off of the children you know and i mean i've again i've
01:54:10.620
spoken to sources who've witnessed it firsthand who actually used to be a part of it and didn't know
01:54:14.980
they were a part of it out of texas and flying these children from these facilities in texas and
01:54:20.760
abbott's backyard to different parts of the country oh what about the well so you're flying them to where
01:54:26.520
oh we don't really know they say that they're no but it's just wealthy people's homes and do you
01:54:31.780
check up on them uh we're supposed to do a wellness check but we don't really do that and if we do it's
01:54:37.760
just like a phone call and if they don't even answer their phone that's considered the wellness check on
01:54:42.000
the child so the ngos responsible for facilitating the death and sex trafficking of these children
01:54:49.380
across the united states into rich homes in miami rich homes and you know in orlando rich homes in
01:54:57.000
tennessee rich homes in washington dc where are you the father that no no not no relation whatsoever to
01:55:04.480
these children so when we hear the liberals crying about you're separating children from their families at
01:55:11.000
the border those aren't the fathers they bring these children across the border they've got like
01:55:15.540
a a name tag stuck on them that's not the father you mean the child that he's holding that's drugged
01:55:21.300
you mean the coyote that's holding that child that child is drugged and you can't even ask the child
01:55:25.740
who's your what's your father's name because that person was brought all the way up from guatemala
01:55:29.460
three weeks ago and it's been drugged the entire time can't speak and is slurring the words like this
01:55:35.280
is happening in the united states and the united states is facilitating it it's it's without a
01:55:41.280
doubt it's facilitating it and these these uh ngos are received had been receiving lots of money from
01:55:46.960
usa id and others and it's been happening right under the nose of the bite administration and under
01:55:52.200
alejandro mayorkas who facilitated all of it uh and allowed it to happen and one was confronted about
01:55:58.340
it told us that our borders were secure really okay hundreds of thousands of children that's just gone
01:56:04.580
missing in the united states and i get so frustrated because people compartmentalize this story like
01:56:10.400
they're happy to talk about doge which is great they're happy to talk about other things but i would
01:56:16.880
love to see like the president of the united states or jd vance like get up during a state of the union
01:56:21.720
and say we've uncovered something really dark and we're going to put an end to it and this is what
01:56:25.920
we've uncovered we can't even get the epstein tapes yeah not just the file the files but they're
01:56:30.500
videotapes and where are they right terabytes of videos from epstein's home in new york and his
01:56:38.460
island yes and his ranch in new mexico so and i know from talking to fbi agents that in fact those
01:56:44.560
are former fbi that those a lot of that would have been housed on separate servers so when we heard
01:56:50.200
stories about things being destroyed over the past few weeks that those servers which weren't tied to
01:56:56.620
the internet were individual servers that had terabytes of video data on it where was that what
01:57:01.900
was being destroyed who ordered that who ordered the destruction of those those hard drives those
01:57:07.300
servers probably the same people who got into a the most secure wing of a secure federal detention
01:57:12.560
facility in manhattan and murdered the guy right um as the guards slept so probably those people
01:57:17.660
probably because anybody who could do that you know can't even guess as to who it was but has a lot
01:57:23.660
of power like that that's actual power you can murder someone in a cell in a federal detention
01:57:28.100
facility oh yeah you have power and taking over electric cars driving people into trees um you know
01:57:35.620
uh i there's sources i've spoken to who've really gone to great lengths to shed light on the massive
01:57:43.620
you know child sex trafficking operation and who've had their lives in many ways destroyed um threatened
01:57:51.200
um run off the street in electric cars um so they don't even ride drive cars anymore just ride bikes
01:57:59.140
so these people are evil these people are really really evil does it ever worry you
01:58:04.720
uh it does but then when i've got you know take my kids to multiple dance classes and swim meets and
01:58:13.840
swimming and you know then you just kind of you just i don't know you just i don't really think about
01:58:19.320
really that's the spirit you know i don't dwell on it i guess you know maybe i would never i'd never
01:58:25.180
leave the house again but here i am you know because i don't know um i don't think about it uh
01:58:31.900
i definitely thought about it more in europe to be honest with you because as journalists in europe
01:58:37.080
when we were speaking out against the war in ukraine i mean we saw the persecution of journalists
01:58:40.940
oh yeah firsthand um i've had friends incredible journalists like kabor kalmasian uh in in germany
01:58:48.140
who you know syrian journalist um i've had in other journalists in germany and in the uk uh i can think
01:58:54.200
of i can i can count them on more than one hand uh who received nasty grams from the government that
01:58:59.460
they were going to be prosecuted for basically their views on ukraine like what what is that what is
01:59:04.120
that about or stopped at the airport and detained for hours at a time so i was more worried about it then
01:59:08.920
um in the united states i believe like we have we have that you know those fundamental freedoms
01:59:16.200
and freedom of speech and so i i kind of hang my head on that at the end of the day even though i feel
01:59:21.840
like those have been eroded tremendously yes but it gives me it gives me hope in that way um
01:59:29.240
and i've gotten calls from journalists where should i move where should i move i said can you move the
01:59:34.960
united states at least there like when i was in europe i couldn't use i couldn't access certain
01:59:39.960
websites they would block certain website news websites to get information in portugal but this
01:59:44.820
was eu wide so it wasn't just portugal but it was you know so oh i want to get information about
01:59:49.620
what's happening in ukraine sorry you can't do that it's not allowed based on local laws actually
01:59:53.640
actually so i would have to use virtual private networks to go around it to act to to be able to i would
01:59:59.320
log into switzerland or iceland but iceland you know eu adjacent um so mostly united states i'd be
02:00:06.180
able to log in via a vpn in the united states to get access to news so when i hear all these people
02:00:12.520
complaining about freedoms and they're like i'm gonna move to europe to get a you know trump tyranny
02:00:17.160
people have called and wanted to know like hey you know i you know i don't like what's going on
02:00:23.280
america right now so i'm thinking about going to europe you've lived in europe like what do you think
02:00:26.860
i love that conversation because i say oh yeah what are you what are you hoping are you hoping
02:00:34.820
to avoid freedom like what do you want by going to europe are you hoping to have more regulation
02:00:39.560
to fill out more paperwork to be more censored like what what is your goal like what do you think
02:00:46.640
trump is going to do to you here he's going to take away your ability to access news websites no no
02:00:52.540
no you want to go to europe for that what is trump going to do he's going to close the border
02:00:56.440
what exactly are you upset about and so i never you know you really get a straight answer about it
02:01:01.960
but i it's only the climate i feel less safe from who like a guy in a maga hat's going to walk down
02:01:09.220
the street and now he's going to attack your daughter like that's you heard all of that in
02:01:13.660
the wake of the inauguration right there's people going to start volunteering at like domestic abuse
02:01:18.800
centers because they're worried their maga husbands are now going to beat their wives like really
02:01:22.580
domestic abuse skyrocketed under biden where were you then well and it's the it's the it's the it's
02:01:28.840
the beta liberal husband who beats up his wife yes because he hates himself yes yeah yeah it's not a
02:01:33.660
maga no it's not a trump supporter who's going to be not as well no if someone hates himself he'll
02:01:37.620
definitely hate you yeah it's probably the germans i mean they're totally they're haters because they
02:01:41.620
hate themselves you know so they they'll allow you to blow up their pipeline spank me harder govern me
02:01:48.280
harder it's the most self-loathing thing i totally agree in fact i was flying back for the middle east
02:01:53.180
the other night with a german guy sitting next to me he was pounding the wine very nice guy actually
02:01:57.040
but um i did say he was you know talking about trump is bad or whatever i said but you let joe biden
02:02:04.040
blow up your main energy source kind of a bitch move no and he goes oh putin's bad i was like okay
02:02:10.800
fine kind of a non-sequitur though they just blew up your natural gas pipeline and he's like putin bad i
02:02:16.420
thought this is 17 hour flight i'm not going to fight with a guy yeah and also well that that speaks
02:02:22.200
volumes about how their most recent election went then of course too right right because if you have
02:02:26.340
people that that's they're you know brainwashed into believing that and deluded it's fine that
02:02:30.020
biden blew up our pipeline and now our energy infrastructure has collapsed and our previous
02:02:35.180
governor uh chancellor shut down our nuclear power plants and all of our manufacturing is drying up
02:02:40.460
uh but putin bad no no we did you did that to yourselves you did that to yourselves in the
02:02:47.880
bundestag yeah i know it's but uh clayton morris it is just wonderful to see you to have an on-camera
02:02:54.920
reunion after all these years oh it's been my great great pleasure and great honor to see well it has
02:02:59.440
been wonderful and i'm just thrilled by everything you said and by what you're doing and i i once again i
02:03:05.880
think you've got one of the greatest life stories of anyone i know so well can i write it i don't know
02:03:11.580
about i don't know if anyone would read it but can i say this and don't cut this off because i know
02:03:14.940
you don't like people praising you but you have been a beacon of hope for so many of us in the like
02:03:21.460
independent media world um one of the only the only voice at the time who was still on network
02:03:26.860
television who was speaking out against war speaking out against trying to attack and you know and kill
02:03:31.660
people in iran uh trying to go to war uh against russia um i know you lost that job probably
02:03:37.960
because of that but just the evidence suggests so but i just all that to say you have been a beacon
02:03:44.640
of light for many of us and uh and i truly truly mean that um for people who are maybe thinking about
02:03:51.800
you've inspired i think a lot of people who are thinking about maybe getting into journalism for the
02:03:55.540
first time and if they would ever ask me who would you hold up to look at uh as an as uh you know
02:04:03.800
as as someone who would be you would like to admire in journalism or who i should study and look up to
02:04:09.960
you know it wouldn't be ann applebaum it would be uh it would be tucker carlson and well people should
02:04:17.080
study your work but i i don't have the credentials that ann applebaum does and is a genius you know i do
02:04:23.460
look at her i say man you are smart i must say yeah great to see you man thank you great to see you
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