Dennis Hannon’s five-year-old son was transitioned behind his back. How did this happen？
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dennis hannon received a letter from his five-year-old son's school addressed to quote the parent of ruby rose . His ex-wife had secretly been sending their son to school wearing girls clothes and using a girl's name . He objected to her actions and he did it in court . He was framed as a bigot and lost medical authority over his son .
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check that out here's today's episode so there are a lot of nightmare stories uh taking place around
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the world and if you sign into daily mail or any news outlet um you're bombarded with them
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constantly because this is one of those moments that produces a lot of nightmares in the news
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but very few of them are as horrifying as what you're about to hear and as you hear this story
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ask yourself if you're a father particularly a parent would you rather get a cancer diagnosis
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or have this happen to you i think most people would probably choose cancer so this story is
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from buffalo new york a man called dennis hannon received a letter from his five-year-old son's
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school addressed to quote the parent of ruby rose now hannon was confused because he didn't know
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anyone called ruby rose so he assumed it was a mistake so he looked into it further and he found
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out that his ex-wife had secretly been sending their son to school wearing girls clothes and
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using a girl's name and it turned out that she'd been doing that for two years since the boy the boy
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was three so hannon like any normal person was horrified by this and objected to her actions and he did
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it in court so of course guess what happened next he was framed as a bigot and lost medical
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authority over his son the state took a core function of fatherhood away from him by force
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as they do in say fascist countries it's hard to believe any of this is true but as far as we can
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tell it's absolutely true and so we thought we would talk to the man suffering through it directly
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dennis hannon joins us now mr hannon thank you so much for coming on um i i hope all of that was
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accurate but i hope you'll just tell us the story uh as you experienced it what happened
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yeah absolutely so it was that was a very accurate summary uh the catalyst was ultimately the letter in
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the mail from the school i had no idea essentially tucker i was the last to know in a unilateral gender
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conversion of my child uh not only was i the last to know i was never even a thought nobody had ever
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reached out to me to see if maybe i wanted to be a part of this transition to see if maybe
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hey maybe dad should know about this uh and it happened by accident because i wasn't receiving any
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notices from the school so i reached out to the school on several occasions and they said that there
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was an issue with the parent portal when they finally resolved the parent portal i was shocked when i
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had received that letter in the mail and they referred to my son exclusively as female pronouns
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in a name ruby rose hannon uh so the school obviously knew perfectly well that your ex-wife had
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decided that your son was now her daughter and they were nobody thought twice about this from what you can
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tell nobody thought twice and to make matters worse my son was living a double life he was so young at the time
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we're talking kindergarten age right about five years old so when he was with me he was a boy however when
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he was in his mother's care and he was at school he was a girl named ruby and this became so normalized
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to him at such a young age he had never even thought to reach out to me or say hey look this is what's going
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on there was none of that and i really didn't even discover the full scope of what was happening
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happening and when it started to happen until i got through court through discovery and serving
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subpoenas and so on i mean you're his father so i i'm not even going to ask the question to you which
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is the obvious question like what would that do to a boy um if you were to do something that evil to
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him at that age but i mean that had to have been your first thought it was um nobody not only did
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anybody nobody considered the uh the father myself but nobody considered the psychological impact of a
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unilateral gender transition for a five-year-old it wasn't just accepted it was celebrated and so
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essentially what we had here tucker was a gender affirming treatment plan without a diagnosis my son
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was never diagnosed with gender dysphoria he still hasn't been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and now he
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lives his life as a very normal boy after i fought very hard for between five to seven years in supreme
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court i took it all the way to trial but through discovery we realized we discovered that he was
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going to a self-described gender affirming therapist who specialized in adolescence and he started going to
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that therapist at about the age of three okay and i was never involved i was never notified of this
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and they were practicing gender affirming care meaning they were working on socially transitioning my son
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uh and my son's identity prior to him even starting school
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uh it came out through court discovery and proceedings that
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not only was my son never diagnosed with gender dysphoria but the w pass standards for transgender care
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was never followed this this therapist when he was about three years old
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never kept any notes of any therapy sessions whatsoever and that was why she refused a subpoena
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in at least one instance so i have no idea what took place during those therapy sessions i have no idea
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the kind of aggressive treatment that was in place but what i do know is that at about age four
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uh he was referred to uh a endocrinologist by the name of dr tran i'm not making this up
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the therapist referred my son to an endocrinologist for the sole purpose of puberty blockers and dr tran
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having never met or spoken to my child before going solely off of the word of the mother over two phone
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calls totaling 45 minutes came to the conclusion that my son was a candidate or could be a candidate for
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puberty blockers around the age of nine i was never involved can you tell us dr tran's first name
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and where this person practices medicine uh so she was a and it's a she i found out later on it's
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maui tran i don't know the proper pronunciation of her first name however she was an endocrinologist
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at the university of rochester and at the time she was a resident she was an undergrad
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um so she had another doctor sign off on her um evaluation i guess you could call it that
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and now it's my understanding that dr tran now works and probably thrives in california
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can you tell us the name of the school um that knew that this was being done to your son but didn't
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tell you and where it was uh i i will name the district because there are several schools in that
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district uh it was kenmore town of tonawanda school and the uh original therapist who referred
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my son to dr tran her name is andrea benner andrea benner okay um so i guess you're not supposed to say
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the names of the people who commit sex crimes against your children which they did they committed a sex
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crime against your son um but i think it's important to do that uh because you know we shouldn't be afraid
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of transparency and honesty if we're doing the right thing um so that okay the obviously extremely
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upsetting even to hear this story from you i can't imagine how you felt about it so what did you do
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what did you do next i fought um i fought i took the proper legal routes uh in in channels i fought
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it started out in niagara county family court and went to erie county family court and then ultimately
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erie county supreme court um i had everybody it wasn't until i had everybody court ordered
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to only refer to my son by his birth name that it stopped it wasn't until i started serving subpoenas
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that i discovered more um so i was able to get people to only refer to my son using his birth name
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however it's very difficult for a child one year in school to be known as ruby rose
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and identify as a female and then next year they're a boy so it had a long psychological
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impact and it still does because my son uses a chromebook for school and on that chromebook
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he has access to previous grades and some of that stuff still has ruby rose on it
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how old is he now he is almost 10. i i assume every person who abetted the sex crime against your
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son was a liberal white woman i just i have to say that but i just i'm just guessing is that is that
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correct absolutely um yes absolutely yeah just so we know who the enemy is i wasn't even allowed to
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talk to my son about his gender identity yeah how come because they wanted these they wanted these
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court-appointed so-called gender specialists uh to talk to my son for me they were afraid of influence
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they didn't want my influence clearly um so who was on your side during this process i mean were there
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any parts of the various government agencies that you dealt with that seemed reasonable and seem to
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recognize your right as a father seem to recognize biology um who weren't insane nobody uh there was
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nobody on my side from the attorney for the child uh which of course worked for a ngo that probably
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received state funding to push you know these radical gender ideologies and tick a box under diversity
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equity inclusion um he actually used his staff member uh to inappropriately influence the treatment
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plan behind closed doors without me knowing uh effectively making himself a witness to the case i
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tried to have him removed that didn't work the attorney for the child was actually named as a
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defendant in the case i was the plaintiff and everybody and that's the part that i really want
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to highlight here tucker is everybody that was in a position of power to do something did nothing
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even after it came out that all of this was just predicated on a big lie i was still court ordered to
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take him to a gender therapist uh at about the age of six court ordered 145 dollars a session totally out
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of pocket and after a year and a half of him going there i had sole medical authority at the time i said
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you know what no diagnosis has been made this is extremely expensive um the child you know we're
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practicing a watchful waiting approach i can watchfully wait on my own i asked that he be discharged several
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times the therapist refused she wrote a nasty letter to the court and shortly after i lost my sole
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medical authority now to your point about exposure since i have exposed these people miss binner's
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office is now closed there's a rumor that she's working out of her home and the court ordered therapist
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that i was ordered to take my son to uh changed their name from psychosexual health buffalo new york
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to now i think it's just um mental health care something but ultimately she changed her name
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it's like the bon jovi song only the names have changed because she's still doing the same thing
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but but like insects when you turn the lights on they scurried under the cabinets yes they do yes
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they do and that's exactly what happened here um it's uh every and it's it's awful it really is
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so i i mean i just i'm listening to you and i mean clearly you had a lot going for you you're
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obviously smart not flattery but obviously a high iq person you have a job so you can afford to go
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through the process and you're highly motivated to protect your son that puts you in a small
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percentage of you know american men your age um you know you kind of had your wits about you when
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you were determined to fix this i would someone who didn't have those things stand any chance at
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all of saving his son from sexual abuse absolutely not if this happened to my child nobody stands a
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chance i spent about 150 000 in legal fees i was court ordered to pay my ex-wife's legal fees i lost
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custody i don't even i only have visitation now i have no medical authority uh whatsoever i have no
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say in any medical decision making or providers and this is the agreement that i now have to live with
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uh however tucker if i had to do it all again i wouldn't change a damn thing because where i may
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have lost on paper i won where it mattered the most because i saved my little boy from these monsters and
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that's the most important thing to me and i think that's why i'm coming forward here now so that i can
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hopefully inspire other parents to come forward and talk about this because i know that i'm not alone
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it's interesting you've seen this up close and obviously at the at the very center of your family in
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your life they're doing this to your son so but you've dealt with these people a lot the therapists
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you know the the adults up and down the chain who are trying to destroy this this child what do you
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think motivates them that's a great question and i am so glad you asked that i was hoping you would
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ask me that because i've done a lot of these interviews and nobody has so i think the real issue
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that america faces it's systemic okay now we have providers who took an oath and the oath is to do no harm
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and they perform gender affirming care we know that it's not care it's child abuse these puberty
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blockers that the that they put these kids on it disrupts their endocrine system which affects brain
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development in early childhood years it's very important they're mutilating and maiming these kids
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all in the name of diversity equity and inclusion when there's absolutely no scientific or medical
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evidence to support what they're doing and in actuality what they're doing is they're masking
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co-morbidities or underlying mental illness that manifests itself on the surface as gender dysphoria
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but much like the military industrial complex who makes money off of war or big pharma who makes money
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off of pandemics they are essentially fueling the crisis that drives their market it's about money and
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i think part of this is about votes because now you have a whole new voter base very similar to the
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invasion at our southern border it's a brand new voter base for people so this is once again the
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we're cowering to the radical demands of the one percent at the cost of the 99 but then the judges
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who are in a position of power to do something about it they employ warfare tactics they hold
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custody visitation access over your head like a carrot so you're forced to play ball and if you don't what
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happens is they say that you're denying your child of essential medical treatment and they will remove
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your child from your care similar to the case that we just saw in montana the same thing just that
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happened we have uh education institutions right that are getting that sweet sweet federal funding and
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part of that is they have to tick a box under dei and play ball as well so they can continue to receive
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funding we have the educators who have bills to pay uh bills to pay mouths to feed and they don't want
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to rock the boat they got a good gig so they keep their head down they shut up and they play ball too
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so the problem is systemic all the way down the line and until we stand up and say no we're not going to
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accept this as normal this isn't normal and we put our foot down we're going to continue down the same
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path that's going to continue to erode society and our the cost is our children we are essentially
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giving children the right to consent so you you i mean two more questions just to be clear you think
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that this process begins and it and it is a chain as you just described it that ends with people you
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know taking tax dollars to sexually abuse children but it begins with a single confused sad woman seeking
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more social status that that's the genesis of this yeah or or a high-risk youth uh for example with
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underlying mental illness you know a lot of the times it's you know a foster kid or something like
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that um so we see bills right now in the assembly and the senate floors that are they're trying to
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codify giving children the right to consent without a parent or guardian present so they can target those
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high-risk youth individuals and that's it's insane a child that can't consent to a tattoo can consent
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to life-altering yeah irreversible uh mutilation of their body yeah well at some point people are
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going to be held accountable for this um they're going to wish they hadn't done it uh and then my
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final question is how did you you seem so rational and calm and goal-oriented how did you maintain that
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throughout this horrifying ordeal i had to um you know i lost my job speak i was a banking vice president
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i've been a software engineer for a while i lost everything that i had worked for but i had to
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remain calm for my son because i need to be the example that i want to set for him and when my time
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is up here on earth it's his job to take it to the next level and this isn't about i'm not here to make
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money i'm not here for anything this is outside of my comfort zone i am here because i care about
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the future of america our rights our liberties i care about our children but more importantly
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our children's children we cannot continue down this path um and i know that you said i sound
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educated and i want to throw this out there just to make you laugh uh i have a 10th grade education
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but i know a lot more than these uh that's what i mean these people oh i definitely didn't think you
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went to wesley and rabode and harvard um no i meant that as a as actually educated aware of what's
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happening uh read books um but how did you i didn't even know that you how did you lose your
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job in the middle of this yeah so it was kind of like the perfect storm i first appeared on a
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conservative tv network about two years ago and i broke the news about this story and i was gag ordered
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i was threatened to be thrown in jail for 30 days and yada yada yada you know what they always do when
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you say something they don't like and you expose them also at this time it was during covet so i my
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work was really pushing the covet jab i refused to be vaccinated because that was my personal choice
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and so between that and being on the news speaking out and sharing this story i was told from my boss
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that the best thing that i could do was resign and when i did resign i didn't put up a fight when i did
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resign uh my petition to modify child support was denied uh and they based my child support off of
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earnings potential not actual earnings i fell eight thousand dollars into arrears and i was fighting jail
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time uh as well as uh trying to keep my license um they tried to destroy me but they they didn't
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well i don't think they're going to and i just pray they don't destroy your son
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um that's that's an amazing story it's one of those conversations i went i went into not expecting
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uh this so dennis hannon godspeed thank you for telling us that story god bless thank you for
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having me i'm honored to be here and share this experience i hope it helps save another parent or
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child from this i hope so too thanks for listening to the tucker carlson podcast if you liked it be sure to
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