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Dennis Hannon’s five-year-old son was transitioned behind his back. How did this happen？


Summary

In this episode, we hear from Dennis Hannon, the father of a 5-year-old son who was forced to choose between his son's gender identity and his role as a father when his son transitioned to female pronouns at age 5 years old.In this story, Dennis talks about the traumatic experience of losing his son at such a young age, and how he was the last to know that his son was transitioning from male to female, and the resulting court case that resulted in him being stripped of the role of fatherhood by his own ex-wife, a woman who had been secretly teaching his son to identify as a girl since he was a young boy named Ruby, and who then took him to court when he objected to her decision to allow her son to transition to female when he was just five years old, even though he didn't even have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria at the time, let alone a gender affirming care plan to help him navigate the process of coming to terms with his son s transition to a life as a woman named Ruby Rose, a girl. Listen to the story of how Dennis and his son were forced to fight for their son's identity and ultimately win the case, and hear from the man who stood up for his son when it was finally revealed to him that he was in fact a girl named Ruby and not a boy, and that he had been mistaken for a girl for two years and treated as a boy when it became a girl at the age of 5. We ve all heard stories like this before, but this is one of the most rarely told in the media, and it s truly horrifying. . We hope you re ready to hear the story and share it with a friend who has been through a similar experience and is willing to share his story with the story on the podcast. You can find all of it in a way that s brave enough to share it on the internet, and we hope you ll join us in sharing it with someone who has had to go through it. Thank you for listening and sharing it on social media! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What would you rather? 3:30 - Would you rather get a cancer diagnosis or have this happen to you? 4:40 - What do you think of your child? 5: How do you feel about this story? 6:00 - What is the worst thing you ve ever dealt with it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 welcome to the tucker carlson podcast where every story is an honest story and not one of them
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00:00:26.680 check that out here's today's episode so there are a lot of nightmare stories uh taking place around
00:00:32.780 the world and if you sign into daily mail or any news outlet um you're bombarded with them
00:00:39.940 constantly because this is one of those moments that produces a lot of nightmares in the news
00:00:44.980 but very few of them are as horrifying as what you're about to hear and as you hear this story
00:00:50.980 ask yourself if you're a father particularly a parent would you rather get a cancer diagnosis
00:00:56.500 or have this happen to you i think most people would probably choose cancer so this story is
00:01:01.960 from buffalo new york a man called dennis hannon received a letter from his five-year-old son's
00:01:07.560 school addressed to quote the parent of ruby rose now hannon was confused because he didn't know
00:01:13.760 anyone called ruby rose so he assumed it was a mistake so he looked into it further and he found
00:01:20.000 out that his ex-wife had secretly been sending their son to school wearing girls clothes and
00:01:26.240 using a girl's name and it turned out that she'd been doing that for two years since the boy the boy
00:01:32.680 was three so hannon like any normal person was horrified by this and objected to her actions and he did
00:01:40.220 it in court so of course guess what happened next he was framed as a bigot and lost medical
00:01:46.540 authority over his son the state took a core function of fatherhood away from him by force
00:01:54.580 as they do in say fascist countries it's hard to believe any of this is true but as far as we can
00:01:59.240 tell it's absolutely true and so we thought we would talk to the man suffering through it directly
00:02:04.880 dennis hannon joins us now mr hannon thank you so much for coming on um i i hope all of that was
00:02:11.560 accurate but i hope you'll just tell us the story uh as you experienced it what happened
00:02:17.040 yeah absolutely so it was that was a very accurate summary uh the catalyst was ultimately the letter in
00:02:25.960 the mail from the school i had no idea essentially tucker i was the last to know in a unilateral gender
00:02:32.540 conversion of my child uh not only was i the last to know i was never even a thought nobody had ever
00:02:38.680 reached out to me to see if maybe i wanted to be a part of this transition to see if maybe
00:02:44.280 hey maybe dad should know about this uh and it happened by accident because i wasn't receiving any
00:02:50.600 notices from the school so i reached out to the school on several occasions and they said that there
00:02:55.720 was an issue with the parent portal when they finally resolved the parent portal i was shocked when i
00:03:01.720 had received that letter in the mail and they referred to my son exclusively as female pronouns
00:03:07.160 in a name ruby rose hannon uh so the school obviously knew perfectly well that your ex-wife had
00:03:17.320 decided that your son was now her daughter and they were nobody thought twice about this from what you can
00:03:26.760 tell nobody thought twice and to make matters worse my son was living a double life he was so young at the time
00:03:33.960 we're talking kindergarten age right about five years old so when he was with me he was a boy however when
00:03:42.520 he was in his mother's care and he was at school he was a girl named ruby and this became so normalized
00:03:49.240 to him at such a young age he had never even thought to reach out to me or say hey look this is what's going
00:03:55.480 on there was none of that and i really didn't even discover the full scope of what was happening
00:04:02.120 happening and when it started to happen until i got through court through discovery and serving
00:04:08.840 subpoenas and so on i mean you're his father so i i'm not even going to ask the question to you which
00:04:15.320 is the obvious question like what would that do to a boy um if you were to do something that evil to
00:04:20.680 him at that age but i mean that had to have been your first thought it was um nobody not only did
00:04:28.120 anybody nobody considered the uh the father myself but nobody considered the psychological impact of a
00:04:36.360 unilateral gender transition for a five-year-old it wasn't just accepted it was celebrated and so
00:04:44.280 essentially what we had here tucker was a gender affirming treatment plan without a diagnosis my son
00:04:51.640 was never diagnosed with gender dysphoria he still hasn't been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and now he
00:04:57.480 lives his life as a very normal boy after i fought very hard for between five to seven years in supreme
00:05:03.880 court i took it all the way to trial but through discovery we realized we discovered that he was
00:05:09.000 going to a self-described gender affirming therapist who specialized in adolescence and he started going to
00:05:16.440 that therapist at about the age of three okay and i was never involved i was never notified of this
00:05:24.200 and they were practicing gender affirming care meaning they were working on socially transitioning my son
00:05:30.120 uh and my son's identity prior to him even starting school
00:05:35.080 uh it came out through court discovery and proceedings that
00:05:39.480 not only was my son never diagnosed with gender dysphoria but the w pass standards for transgender care
00:05:45.240 was never followed this this therapist when he was about three years old
00:05:49.560 never kept any notes of any therapy sessions whatsoever and that was why she refused a subpoena
00:05:55.720 in at least one instance so i have no idea what took place during those therapy sessions i have no idea
00:06:03.000 the kind of aggressive treatment that was in place but what i do know is that at about age four
00:06:09.960 uh he was referred to uh a endocrinologist by the name of dr tran i'm not making this up
00:06:18.440 the therapist referred my son to an endocrinologist for the sole purpose of puberty blockers and dr tran
00:06:25.320 having never met or spoken to my child before going solely off of the word of the mother over two phone
00:06:31.320 calls totaling 45 minutes came to the conclusion that my son was a candidate or could be a candidate for
00:06:37.800 puberty blockers around the age of nine i was never involved can you tell us dr tran's first name
00:06:43.640 and where this person practices medicine uh so she was a and it's a she i found out later on it's
00:06:50.360 maui tran i don't know the proper pronunciation of her first name however she was an endocrinologist
00:06:56.440 at the university of rochester and at the time she was a resident she was an undergrad
00:07:01.080 um so she had another doctor sign off on her um evaluation i guess you could call it that
00:07:09.960 and now it's my understanding that dr tran now works and probably thrives in california
00:07:15.800 can you tell us the name of the school um that knew that this was being done to your son but didn't
00:07:22.040 tell you and where it was uh i i will name the district because there are several schools in that
00:07:28.040 district uh it was kenmore town of tonawanda school and the uh original therapist who referred
00:07:35.160 my son to dr tran her name is andrea benner andrea benner okay um so i guess you're not supposed to say
00:07:45.320 the names of the people who commit sex crimes against your children which they did they committed a sex
00:07:49.800 crime against your son um but i think it's important to do that uh because you know we shouldn't be afraid
00:07:56.120 of transparency and honesty if we're doing the right thing um so that okay the obviously extremely
00:08:02.920 upsetting even to hear this story from you i can't imagine how you felt about it so what did you do
00:08:08.440 what did you do next i fought um i fought i took the proper legal routes uh in in channels i fought
00:08:16.680 it started out in niagara county family court and went to erie county family court and then ultimately
00:08:22.200 erie county supreme court um i had everybody it wasn't until i had everybody court ordered
00:08:29.480 to only refer to my son by his birth name that it stopped it wasn't until i started serving subpoenas
00:08:36.120 that i discovered more um so i was able to get people to only refer to my son using his birth name
00:08:43.880 however it's very difficult for a child one year in school to be known as ruby rose
00:08:51.000 and identify as a female and then next year they're a boy so it had a long psychological
00:08:57.560 impact and it still does because my son uses a chromebook for school and on that chromebook
00:09:02.360 he has access to previous grades and some of that stuff still has ruby rose on it
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00:10:50.280 how old is he now he is almost 10. i i assume every person who abetted the sex crime against your
00:10:57.000 son was a liberal white woman i just i have to say that but i just i'm just guessing is that is that
00:11:01.320 correct absolutely um yes absolutely yeah just so we know who the enemy is i wasn't even allowed to
00:11:07.640 talk to my son about his gender identity yeah how come because they wanted these they wanted these
00:11:15.560 court-appointed so-called gender specialists uh to talk to my son for me they were afraid of influence
00:11:23.880 they didn't want my influence clearly um so who was on your side during this process i mean were there
00:11:33.080 any parts of the various government agencies that you dealt with that seemed reasonable and seem to
00:11:39.880 recognize your right as a father seem to recognize biology um who weren't insane nobody uh there was
00:11:47.560 nobody on my side from the attorney for the child uh which of course worked for a ngo that probably
00:11:54.760 received state funding to push you know these radical gender ideologies and tick a box under diversity
00:12:02.200 equity inclusion um he actually used his staff member uh to inappropriately influence the treatment
00:12:08.920 plan behind closed doors without me knowing uh effectively making himself a witness to the case i
00:12:14.680 tried to have him removed that didn't work the attorney for the child was actually named as a
00:12:18.920 defendant in the case i was the plaintiff and everybody and that's the part that i really want
00:12:24.920 to highlight here tucker is everybody that was in a position of power to do something did nothing
00:12:31.160 even after it came out that all of this was just predicated on a big lie i was still court ordered to
00:12:38.120 take him to a gender therapist uh at about the age of six court ordered 145 dollars a session totally out
00:12:46.920 of pocket and after a year and a half of him going there i had sole medical authority at the time i said
00:12:53.160 you know what no diagnosis has been made this is extremely expensive um the child you know we're
00:12:59.400 practicing a watchful waiting approach i can watchfully wait on my own i asked that he be discharged several
00:13:05.800 times the therapist refused she wrote a nasty letter to the court and shortly after i lost my sole
00:13:12.280 medical authority now to your point about exposure since i have exposed these people miss binner's
00:13:18.680 office is now closed there's a rumor that she's working out of her home and the court ordered therapist
00:13:25.080 that i was ordered to take my son to uh changed their name from psychosexual health buffalo new york
00:13:31.960 to now i think it's just um mental health care something but ultimately she changed her name
00:13:38.600 it's like the bon jovi song only the names have changed because she's still doing the same thing
00:13:42.360 but but like insects when you turn the lights on they scurried under the cabinets yes they do yes
00:13:47.880 they do and that's exactly what happened here um it's uh every and it's it's awful it really is
00:13:55.160 so i i mean i just i'm listening to you and i mean clearly you had a lot going for you you're
00:14:01.880 obviously smart not flattery but obviously a high iq person you have a job so you can afford to go
00:14:08.600 through the process and you're highly motivated to protect your son that puts you in a small
00:14:12.920 percentage of you know american men your age um you know you kind of had your wits about you when
00:14:18.760 you were determined to fix this i would someone who didn't have those things stand any chance at
00:14:24.600 all of saving his son from sexual abuse absolutely not if this happened to my child nobody stands a
00:14:30.280 chance i spent about 150 000 in legal fees i was court ordered to pay my ex-wife's legal fees i lost
00:14:37.960 custody i don't even i only have visitation now i have no medical authority uh whatsoever i have no
00:14:44.920 say in any medical decision making or providers and this is the agreement that i now have to live with
00:14:51.480 uh however tucker if i had to do it all again i wouldn't change a damn thing because where i may
00:14:57.320 have lost on paper i won where it mattered the most because i saved my little boy from these monsters and
00:15:03.800 that's the most important thing to me and i think that's why i'm coming forward here now so that i can
00:15:08.600 hopefully inspire other parents to come forward and talk about this because i know that i'm not alone
00:15:14.920 it's interesting you've seen this up close and obviously at the at the very center of your family in
00:15:19.400 your life they're doing this to your son so but you've dealt with these people a lot the therapists
00:15:24.840 you know the the adults up and down the chain who are trying to destroy this this child what do you
00:15:30.920 think motivates them that's a great question and i am so glad you asked that i was hoping you would
00:15:36.120 ask me that because i've done a lot of these interviews and nobody has so i think the real issue
00:15:41.720 that america faces it's systemic okay now we have providers who took an oath and the oath is to do no harm
00:15:49.080 and they perform gender affirming care we know that it's not care it's child abuse these puberty
00:15:54.440 blockers that the that they put these kids on it disrupts their endocrine system which affects brain
00:15:59.480 development in early childhood years it's very important they're mutilating and maiming these kids
00:16:05.000 all in the name of diversity equity and inclusion when there's absolutely no scientific or medical
00:16:10.040 evidence to support what they're doing and in actuality what they're doing is they're masking
00:16:15.720 co-morbidities or underlying mental illness that manifests itself on the surface as gender dysphoria
00:16:22.680 but much like the military industrial complex who makes money off of war or big pharma who makes money
00:16:29.400 off of pandemics they are essentially fueling the crisis that drives their market it's about money and
00:16:37.560 i think part of this is about votes because now you have a whole new voter base very similar to the
00:16:44.680 invasion at our southern border it's a brand new voter base for people so this is once again the
00:16:50.680 we're cowering to the radical demands of the one percent at the cost of the 99 but then the judges
00:17:01.000 who are in a position of power to do something about it they employ warfare tactics they hold
00:17:07.560 custody visitation access over your head like a carrot so you're forced to play ball and if you don't what
00:17:14.360 happens is they say that you're denying your child of essential medical treatment and they will remove
00:17:20.120 your child from your care similar to the case that we just saw in montana the same thing just that
00:17:26.040 happened we have uh education institutions right that are getting that sweet sweet federal funding and
00:17:33.400 part of that is they have to tick a box under dei and play ball as well so they can continue to receive
00:17:39.000 funding we have the educators who have bills to pay uh bills to pay mouths to feed and they don't want
00:17:46.280 to rock the boat they got a good gig so they keep their head down they shut up and they play ball too
00:17:50.760 so the problem is systemic all the way down the line and until we stand up and say no we're not going to
00:17:56.440 accept this as normal this isn't normal and we put our foot down we're going to continue down the same
00:18:02.360 path that's going to continue to erode society and our the cost is our children we are essentially
00:18:07.560 giving children the right to consent so you you i mean two more questions just to be clear you think
00:18:14.600 that this process begins and it and it is a chain as you just described it that ends with people you
00:18:21.560 know taking tax dollars to sexually abuse children but it begins with a single confused sad woman seeking
00:18:32.520 more social status that that's the genesis of this yeah or or a high-risk youth uh for example with
00:18:42.120 underlying mental illness you know a lot of the times it's you know a foster kid or something like
00:18:48.280 that um so we see bills right now in the assembly and the senate floors that are they're trying to
00:18:54.680 codify giving children the right to consent without a parent or guardian present so they can target those
00:18:59.640 high-risk youth individuals and that's it's insane a child that can't consent to a tattoo can consent
00:19:06.440 to life-altering yeah irreversible uh mutilation of their body yeah well at some point people are
00:19:14.120 going to be held accountable for this um they're going to wish they hadn't done it uh and then my
00:19:19.080 final question is how did you you seem so rational and calm and goal-oriented how did you maintain that
00:19:26.120 throughout this horrifying ordeal i had to um you know i lost my job speak i was a banking vice president
00:19:35.400 i've been a software engineer for a while i lost everything that i had worked for but i had to
00:19:41.320 remain calm for my son because i need to be the example that i want to set for him and when my time
00:19:47.480 is up here on earth it's his job to take it to the next level and this isn't about i'm not here to make
00:19:52.920 money i'm not here for anything this is outside of my comfort zone i am here because i care about
00:19:58.040 the future of america our rights our liberties i care about our children but more importantly
00:20:02.600 our children's children we cannot continue down this path um and i know that you said i sound
00:20:07.640 educated and i want to throw this out there just to make you laugh uh i have a 10th grade education
00:20:12.520 but i know a lot more than these uh that's what i mean these people oh i definitely didn't think you
00:20:17.720 went to wesley and rabode and harvard um no i meant that as a as actually educated aware of what's
00:20:23.480 happening uh read books um but how did you i didn't even know that you how did you lose your
00:20:29.080 job in the middle of this yeah so it was kind of like the perfect storm i first appeared on a
00:20:35.800 conservative tv network about two years ago and i broke the news about this story and i was gag ordered
00:20:42.440 i was threatened to be thrown in jail for 30 days and yada yada yada you know what they always do when
00:20:46.680 you say something they don't like and you expose them also at this time it was during covet so i my
00:20:55.240 work was really pushing the covet jab i refused to be vaccinated because that was my personal choice
00:21:02.040 and so between that and being on the news speaking out and sharing this story i was told from my boss
00:21:10.120 that the best thing that i could do was resign and when i did resign i didn't put up a fight when i did
00:21:15.960 resign uh my petition to modify child support was denied uh and they based my child support off of
00:21:23.400 earnings potential not actual earnings i fell eight thousand dollars into arrears and i was fighting jail
00:21:28.520 time uh as well as uh trying to keep my license um they tried to destroy me but they they didn't
00:21:36.520 well i don't think they're going to and i just pray they don't destroy your son
00:21:39.640 um that's that's an amazing story it's one of those conversations i went i went into not expecting
00:21:46.360 uh this so dennis hannon godspeed thank you for telling us that story god bless thank you for
00:21:52.920 having me i'm honored to be here and share this experience i hope it helps save another parent or
00:21:57.000 child from this i hope so too thanks for listening to the tucker carlson podcast if you liked it be sure to
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