Donald Trump Jr. on the Growing Threats to His Father’s Life, and Plan to Uproot Political Corruption
Summary
On this week's episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, former presidential candidate and presidential hopeful John McAfee. We talk about how he got started in politics, why he decided to run for president, and why he's running for re-election in 2020. We also talk about why he thinks he's a better candidate than Hillary Clinton, and what it means to have a finger in the pulse of the country. And we have an exclusive Wine in the Sand, a documentary from James O'Keefe that explores human trafficking on the largest scale in modern times from Latin America to the United States. Wine In the Sand is available exclusively on TCN on October 10th, and is a must-listen for anyone who's ever wanted to know what it's like to be on the other side of the political aisle. If you haven't checked out Wine In The Sand yet, you won't want to miss it. It's a must listen, and you'll want to make sure to check out the companion documentary, Wine in The Sand, available on Amazon Prime and Vimeo on October 17th, as well. Thanks to our sponsor, Caff Monster Energy! and thank you so much for supporting the podcast and making it possible for us to do what we do. Please remember to rate, review, and subscribe to our other shows, and tell a friend about what you're listening to this podcast. We really appreciate what you think of it! - we really do appreciate it. Thank you. - Tom and Brad. Cheers, Brad and Brad and Sarah. Cheers. -- Tom and Sarah -- Brent and Sarah and Brad, Tim, John McElroy, -- Ben and Sarah, Sarah, Chris, Evan, Matt, Jake, Tim & Lexi, Mike, Ben, and Tucker, Kristy, Jack, . Sarah, John, John, and Sarah (and so much more! -- Thank you, Brad, and John, too! -- thank you for listening to the podcast! Love ya'll! Thanks so much, Cheers! -- Cheers -- Brad, Brad & Sarah, Kristy & Sarah -- Sarah, Thank you! -- -- Love ya. Love you, Jon, Kristian, - Brad, Matt, Tim, and Jack, Jack, Mike, and Josh, XO
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One of our plans when we started TCN was to run great long-form content,
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documentaries and topics that other people were ignoring.
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It's called Wine in the Sand, and it's by James O'Keefe,
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one of the last brave and honest journalists in this country.
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James O'Keefe embedded with the cartels as they moved migrants engaging in human trafficking
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at the largest scale in modern times from Latin America to the United States.
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He embedded with the cartels, with hidden cameras,
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and the result is this documentary, Wine in the Sand,
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Wine in the Sand, October 10th. Highly recommended.
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I asked him backstage, how many nights have you been home in the last month?
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Well, when Lexi called me, it was like, I guess, yesterday morning,
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and they're like, they weren't sure if Russell or John were able to make it to the show in Fort Lauderdale,
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They're like, well, they're able to make it now,
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I'm like, can I have one night with my children, please?
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You're the only non-Mormon man I know who has more children than I do,
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I know how that happens now, so I took up something much less vicious like politics.
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I just touted you as someone who has his finger in the pulse,
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and I happen to know for a fact that that's true.
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Honestly, we're in a place, and, you know, I'm a guy that,
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We're in a place that's better than we've ever been in a comparable position.
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You know, and as you know, I am the guy that's sort of willing to go into the ground
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and those are sort of my friends, despite where, you know, sort of I grew up,
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and I appreciate and understand the irony of it,
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but it's sort of the way I was always just brought up.
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And, you know, in 16, it was like, you still believe the media narrative.
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I was like, but we're going to overperform, but we'll probably lose.
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In 20, I was like, man, it's actually significantly better.
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And just, like, in October of 2020, I did 104, like, rallies myself.
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Like, it was, but you do get a pulse, and you see it,
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They got over a billion votes, I think, that year.
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Well, the real problem is, if they showed up with a billion votes on November 6th,
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they would tell us it was the freest and most fair election ever.
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They would say it, and if you don't believe that you're racist,
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or you're an insurrectionist, or some other thing that you're obviously not,
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they can give you something that's statistically impossible,
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And what's really good about this cycle is people get it.
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But more importantly, so many are now finally emerging as unafraid to say it.
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If people get unafraid, if they start talking about the realities of it,
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if, you know, before it was like, oh, you're canceled.
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You know, notice how, like, things that would have gotten you canceled two, three years ago,
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I mean, they're not even canceling you on social media for saying some of these things.
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It feels so strong, unlike anything I've experienced so far.
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Yeah, by the way, now, even compared to, like, closer to the election,
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because, I mean, I've been, you know, on the road now for weeks.
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You know, even in June, I was like, wow, I mean, people have had enough.
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They're sick of being told, no, no, Bidenomics is working for you.
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And I know it for myself, because, listen, I've been blessed.
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But I think I told you the story one time we were hanging out,
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and I was, like, I was coming back from a fishing trip with my son.
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And it was my 10-year-old, my 14-year-old, and me.
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Like, if Donald Trump Jr. has sticker shock, folks.
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But if I'm sitting there, I'd be like, I don't get it.
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You know, I'm not, and again, I'm not, like, you see it on the Sunday shows.
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You know, some liberal, my three-week-old baby was recently crying about nuclear proliferation
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I'm not pretending it's going to change my habits.
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I'm lucky enough that it doesn't have to, it doesn't affect me.
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But I know it affects some family that's making $50,000 a year, $60,000 a year.
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And they've had enough of being told, you just have to accept it.
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It's going to be good while we send another $250 billion to Ukraine to fight a war that
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I do this now, you know, I don't really make any money in politics, but, like, I'm sort
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Ten trillion when the interest on our debt is now a trillion dollars a year.
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Just the interest on the money that we borrow so we can send Pakistan $25 million to fund
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So you do travel and speak to audiences more than anybody, more than anybody, actually,
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In Washington, where I spent my whole life until recently, I don't think there are four
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Republicans in the House who've asked the questions about Ukraine than you have.
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Do you ever meet an audience that is like, no, we really need to keep going funding this
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I'll do it right here, because I haven't done it in a while.
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And so let's say, over the last year, I've spoken to 50,000, 60,000 people, probably,
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You know, opening up for DJT a rally, a group of 300 people here, that may be 10,000, 5,000.
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You know, show of hands, raise your hand if Ukraine is a top 10 priority for you in your
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Two people of now, let's call it 65,000 people that I speak to weekly.
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That was, it was not top three, but it was top 10.
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And the other was a guy that's like a Beltway warmonger.
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I was like, so you're on the board of Raytheon or something like that?
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By the way, what's nice about me, I'm not a politician, so I'll call up both sides.
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Hey, Don, can you not go so tough on the Ukraine?
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Because some of that money is getting funneled back to a missile maker.
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And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm all about American businesses.
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Like, our family's done that before we got sued to, you know, like, we've done this.
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Not if it's just for abject death for no reason around the world.
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Like, I'm not there to support American business in genocide.
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I'm like, you're making trillion-dollar decisions.
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And they're like, well, no, but, you know, but I'm sure they took six figures from Raytheon.
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And so, therefore, you know, they're on the team.
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You know, they should get, like, sponsorship things.
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Because it's shocking to me that a guy like me, who grew up on the 70th floor of Trump Tower in Manhattan.
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But it's like, how do I know this and you don't?
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You literally chose to represent your district.
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I was there last week, and you have no idea what they actually stand for.
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So, I think that one of the great promises of a second Trump term is that the party that nominated him will really change, and change in a specific way.
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The Democratic Party actually kind of represents its voters.
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If you're into child castration, you've got a party.
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But why wouldn't normal people have a political party that represents them?
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Because you would think they'd be able to get voted out.
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There's – no one's ever had, again, sort of being unafraid, right?
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They can go to their little constituents, and they go speak to a room, you know, other than maybe DJT.
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No one can assemble a room like this in conservative politics or, frankly, in politics.
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But they go home, and they speak to a group of five people that shows up, and they tell them everything they want to hear.
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And then they go to D.C., and they vote opposite.
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It's an easy existence to be a weak Republican in Washington, D.C.
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You know, the Washington Post isn't going to do the hit piece on you.
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You know, I'd say they'd get invited to the cool person Christmas party, but we can't say Christmas party in D.C., right?
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That's, you know, they can get away with a lot.
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And so you have people that they get away with it.
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They lie, and they go, no, that guy's really for me.
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I'm like, but have you looked at his voting record?
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It's sort of like why we end up with, why are the weakest Republicans in the most conservative states?
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I mean, whether it's Oklahoma, you have senators that are, like, I'm like, with Republicans.
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You know, with Republicans like Mitt Romney, who needs Democrats?
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But in the strong conservative states, the Democrats sort of get together.
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They do this really well, and they say, hey, we're going to just forget about the Democrat.
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We're just going to install the weakest Republican.
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Half the Republicans don't know the difference.
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They think that's the guy that's leading, so we'll just vote for him.
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And you end up with conservative states that have the least conservative leadership in the world.
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And so, so much of this is really an education process.
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People have to understand and start paying attention.
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And again, I think it takes, unfortunately, sort of whether it's addiction or otherwise,
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And I think the American populace watching what we've been told has been a great success
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over the last three and a half years under Joe Biden,
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that's the rock bottom we actually needed to get people woken up and engaged in politics.
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Five years ago, ten years ago, it didn't exist.
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But I don't, you may be missing something important,
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and I'm getting this directly from Ben Stiller.
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The election of Kamala Harris will be, and I'm quoting now, the change we need.
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By the way, just so we're clear, Kamala Harris has changed a lot.
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What's amazing about this whole thing, I'm watching the media,
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when they finally, after a month of being the nominee,
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and they forgot to cover up the source code to say it's the same thing.
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Like, she is the vice president to the most absentee president
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he spent 40-plus percent of his presidency on vacation.
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she had the opportunity to literally do anything.
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And by the way, Joe Biden said that the other day.
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She's literally the daughter of a Marxist professor
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we use that word loosely in the word democracy.
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Seems like you're actually really for taking your guns.
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the media will tell you whatever you need to hear
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If she wanted to do something about the border,
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you deserve it you champion marathon runner you
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like Wuhan lab league like of course it came from
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the lab that studies the exact virus in the town
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that was ground zero for the virus like no no no
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government funding and you'll lose your research
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course it did you're not a virologist Don I was
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like you don't have to be a virologist you just have
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to not be an imbecile like like you like it's not
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that hard like of course it did but like all great
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conspiracy theories we know we find out the truth a
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couple weeks later so I don't understand two things one
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how the Congress hasn't gotten to the bottom of the
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security lapses yeah like how hard is that no one's
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it's almost like there's a lot of people that are
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okay with it Tucker I mean no but like what what else
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is it I mean we've had some conversations with people
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that we can't sort of we're not going to out because
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they know more than we do but it's like well they
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they have the ability to get that information and
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they're not given it by the the three letter agencies
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that are literally supposed to report to them it's
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like no no we know better you know at some point what like
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where's the point where you have like a sit-in in
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someone's office like I'm not moving until you answer the
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question or we cut off the funding immediately or you just
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no seriously you have a a march on you know DHS headquarters
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where 500,000 people show up and say we're not leaving until
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you give us the answer yeah they'll all get thrown in jail for
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being insurrectionists whether they do any answer you
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no it's January 6th right it was literally it's almost amazing
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it was the first unarmed insurrection in the history of
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the world the only people that were armed were the tour
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guides that magically worked for the FBI that were all there
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they couldn't release the videos because it would expose
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too many of their assets implanted in the group I'm like well
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why didn't any of those assets actually try to stop it it's
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almost like it was a plan almost almost like but you know
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there are grandmothers that are sitting in jail because of
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where they were within 500 miles of DC or you're like they're
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taking selfies inside the velvet ropes like that's not an
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insurrectionist they didn't even know what they're supposed to
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be in the room like also isn't it doesn't it belong to them
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yeah isn't it the people's house isn't this our country don't
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we pay for it didn't our ancestors build it I thought that
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was the story they go to jail but if you burn down Seattle or
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portland or kedosha wisconsin you know you get to be vice president
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under the democrat regime you can allow that to happen it's fine
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there's no consequence no one goes to jail billions dollars
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actually people murdered that's different the existing vice president
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who's running at the top of the ticket can fundraise for those
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people publicly and the guy that let the city the major city in the
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state that he's the governor of can allow it to burn down
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and you know that's fine as long as you put tampons in boys bathrooms
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like you're forgiven it's okay no no no you're you're you know what
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you're supposed to do with those I'm right don't even tell me um so
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vote vote call all your friends vote like your republic depends on it
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it does I you know I'm not worried in Florida but I'm sure everyone from
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Florida is basically from somewhere else you know make sure your friends in the
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you know apathy is what's going to kill this because they're going to play
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like we discussed you know if they showed up with 12 billion votes on you know
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the morning after election day they'll tell you it's the most free and fair
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you know you discuss sort of polling in your opening it's like
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the polling is all bs right half of it's designed to demoralize you the
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other half is designed to make you overconfident none of it matters the only
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poll that matters is the final tally on November 5th but the way I look in many
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of the places usually those places that are swing states you know they're
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controlled entirely by a democrat legislature or the republicans are so
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weak that they're worried about the bad article in the local paper like to win by
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win we got to win by five that's it act accordingly
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so given this is my my last question but I I'm looking for hope the core problem is corruption
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every institution many institutions in American life have been revealed to be corrupt it's so
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distressing to see it so demoralizing to watch it it has to be fixed it's too corrupt to
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continue if they can allow the other party's presidential candidate to be shot in the face
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and no one's even fired then we've reached a point where can't have any more of this
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so starting January 20th do you have hope that that corruption can be rooted out
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the reality is this and I honestly I think it's why both sides frankly are going so much harder
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against my father this time around now he actually knows he knows who the liars are he knows who the
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scumbags are he knows I'm on your side it's like you know here's a tweet from seven minutes ago when I
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walked into your endorsement to get an endorsement uh you know I'll disregard the last five years of
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everything I've been saying that's bad about you it's now he knows and that's why he's a greater threat
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right when he before you know when we were talking about transition last time around it's like
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I was like so who do you know in DC it's like I've been in DC for less than two days of my entire life
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he didn't know so you trust even those people on your side you had no other way to do it you know in
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business it's different it's like you sort of understand what people's motivation is it's usually you know profit
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or they you know there's not like in politics like your best friend will snake you to get a good
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favorable article that lets him get the next consulting gig like they'll bastardize everything they believe in
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there's no there's no honor in it there's no there's no no one actually has a belief system in
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Washington DC but for three or four people the belief system is power and they'll do whatever they can
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to have that power there's no real consequence to a law so if your party's not in charge fine
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you sit in the wings waiting till the next opportunity for you to make you know your
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seven-figure gig a month for you know representing the scumbags uh I think the fact that he gets that
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now uh he's seen those people turn on him I think that scares again especially the people on our side
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that much more uh so there is hope beyond that there's hope that you know people also getting it
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they're they're showing up they're they're not just listening to sort of the two minutes
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you know of news in the background of being like oh that must be true I saw it on CNN it's like
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no it's probably the opposite of that um and so you know again the fact that you know we're five
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weeks out from an election and we're filling up a stadium like this of people like it's hard to
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that's amazing I mean people they're now finally vested in the success of their country that should
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have always been but we took it for granted as Americans I mean when I got into this I was naive
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man when I I was a baby when I like well listen you know the CIA and FBI said I was colluding with
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Russia I must have taken a selfie with someone like there had to be something to it I I genuinely
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believed there had to be some truth to it because I wanted to believe everything I had been told about
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our country and it turns out it was all nonsense there doesn't have to be any truth to any of it
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so then I was sort of fighting to preserve an America I believe existed for my kids turns out
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you know it may have never existed but certainly not in my lifetime and maybe longer than that
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it was just sort of you know a visual representation you're we must get into these wars because of
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patriotic reason I'm like well I don't know like why it's like why I get in trouble still for
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questioning you know what's going on in Ukraine it's like well like what's our benefit
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you know there's no benefit you know it's it's insane um and so now you know I'm fighting to
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actually make real the the myth that I was sold about our country to actually make that exist that's
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why I do this now that I'll just say I and I mean this truly I sincerely hope that you will run for
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president at some point I mean that you never know folks you never know how about this let's
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worry about 2024 right now but but but beyond that though not just president you know that that's the
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thing like I hey I've been through it I've done my testimony for treason and it I don't want to just
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win the president without the house or without the senate like like like that'll be hell for me and
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my family for everyone for the day and and and for America like we gotta win everything we gotta win
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down to the dog catcher we gotta win our state legislatures so we can like I don't know maybe
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educate our children so maybe they learn like math rather than the 4,379 genders like you know we gotta
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win you know all of our school boards we gotta win everything because we've sat back as conservatives
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for you know whether we're building up businesses or we're you know I get it it's hard to get involved
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it's hard to get in that fray no one probably understands it better than you know my family
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other than maybe RFK Jr. uh you know like no one understands the consequence better than perhaps the
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collective like uh ticket now but like we don't have a choice or or or it's not going to exist
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again they're they're saying all of the things like you think if if they can literally you know
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if impeaching Trump doesn't work twice well then we'll just try to take his businesses and we'll
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fine him half a billion dollars for paying back loans on time with interest we'll we'll change the
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statute of limitation of certain things for one year not in perpetuity because we want to be able
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like they did in New York they literally the state of New York changed the statute of limitations
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to allow them to go back 30 years for a nonsense case because they figured hey we could probably
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get a favorable jury the second they charge Trump it changes back is that a democracy like
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you know think about it I mean if that doesn't work you know well we'll try to throw him in jail
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and if that doesn't work we'll just scream loudly enough that he's worse than Hitler to make people
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literally try to kill him and then not give him the appropriate security protocols to protect him
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like if they can do that to Donald Trump a guy that has the means to be able to fight back a guy that
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has arguably one of the greatest political platforms ever assembled what some of the greatest most
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patriotic people backing him the soapbox to get it out there if they can do it to him who can't they do
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it to but more importantly if they will do it to him and they'll do it to him so aggressively and
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so flagrantly who won't they do it to you think it stops with Trump no no no guys each and every one of
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you is in the firing line good at this point almost no pun intended like it like we have to act
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accordingly we have to take back our country um and so you know we're used to you know you how many
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times have you heard it in your journalistic career Tucker it's literally the most important
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election ever you know some guy running for dog catcher it's like it's literally like the world
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depends on this like you know we're used to hearing that like this time that's real look at the stakes
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look at where we are as a world look at where we are as a country the fact that it's even close in
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some of these places show just how brainwashed so many people are again it's not a fair fight we know
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that it doesn't matter to win like we actually have to play by the rules they've set elections like
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like i i was in europe last week for two days like they're like what do you mean like you don't have
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like paper ballots you don't have like voter id you like these basic things they're like these are
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socialist countries and they think we're insane like that's you know but guess what to win
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you have to play the hand that you're dealt they have dealt that hand they have stacked that hand
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they've done every it doesn't matter we still have to play they want us to be demoralized they want
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us to take our ball and go cry to mommy like they would love to see that we can't do it we have to
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fight you know the same resolve i saw from my father coming up that day we all have to have that same
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spirit because that is the embodiment of the america we know and love we just have to come out and
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actually do it all donald trump jr ladies and gentlemen
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