The Tucker Carlson Show - Dr. Keith Ablow

00:00:00.000 if you've been following at all the hunter biden laptop story you may remember the following news

00:00:15.980 item which appeared for a day or two a couple of years ago in february of 2020 a man called dr

00:00:23.680 keith ablow who's a psychiatrist and was a fixture for years on fox news had his home office raided by

00:00:31.720 the dea and during that raid the dea took hunter biden's laptop and did not return it to dr keith

00:00:41.960 ablow well apparently dr ablow had been treating hunter biden in a year or two before and

00:00:49.380 the laptop was in his office and they took it they also took his guns the state of massachusetts took

00:00:57.840 all of keith abo's guns from his home now the interesting thing is and never returned those

00:01:02.460 either dr keith abo has never been convicted of a crime so what was this now we knew dr keith abo

00:01:10.780 is from working in cable news and has taken us until now to call him ask him to come on and explain

00:01:16.820 what was this first of all you're treating hunter biden second you had his laptop in your house

00:01:21.300 third the dea which is not we didn't think authorized to take laptops out of people's homes

00:01:27.440 it took hunter biden's laptop and didn't give it back what is this dr keith abo joins us now

00:01:33.760 doctor thanks so much for coming on i'm sure thanks for having me well so this whole conversation was

00:01:39.700 based on this i read this in the newspaper one day and i've been thinking for the last couple of

00:01:44.240 years like what was that and i don't know the answer i know that you can't common sense would

00:01:49.700 suggest talk about the details of your treatment of hunter biden because hipaa laws exist even after

00:01:53.960 covid um but to the extent you can can you explain what this was well i can't explain why these things

00:02:00.820 were ever taken or why i would be raided right but um i can tell you that the laptop was one of the

00:02:08.140 items that was taken from my possession and i never figured out why the dea would come to my office

00:02:15.040 i efforted the return of mr biden's laptop to him through my attorney uh interacting with the dea

00:02:23.820 because that's the responsible thing to do right which is by the way why kevin morris's theory that

00:02:30.020 keith ablo is the source of the laptop originally he's the leak is absurd wait can you just unpack this a

00:02:37.240 little bit because it was i mean i just knew you from working for the same company for several

00:02:42.120 years and um i was shocked to learn or at least read that you were treating hunter biden so he was

00:02:49.960 a patient of yours yes over the years i've treated as you might know very prominent people cabinet

00:02:56.540 members and others you know illness is a common language uh once you're suffering with something

00:03:03.920 badly yes it doesn't matter what your politics are and hunter biden sought care despite the fact

00:03:11.280 that i was the first one on national television back in 2012 to say that his dad might well be

00:03:17.580 suffering with dementia it was during the vice presidential debates when joe biden was running

00:03:21.600 for vice president i said i don't know i think to my to my eye uh that he has signs of dementia

00:03:27.620 and i was roundly criticized and beat up um and i said that on our former employer's air um so it

00:03:35.340 would be thought of as curious very curious that he would seek out care from me but on the other hand

00:03:42.580 um it is really true like when you're in the trenches of course you go to the person that you think can

00:03:49.660 help and you leave everything else at the door as your healer would so for those who leaned on me

00:03:57.120 having heard that i had been treating him and my god you had his laptop you didn't give it to anyone

00:04:02.740 just to how you connected with hunter biden of all psychiatrists in the united states and there are

00:04:08.560 quite a few do you have any idea how he wound up calling you uh it was by referral and you know these

00:04:15.180 this is a closed well it's not it's an open network of folks who have uh descended uh in my town

00:04:22.360 i have a cottage next to mine they've made use of that at times uh in order to heal and okay so you

00:04:30.300 have effectively a guest house that's right people suffering from probably addiction i would think

00:04:35.840 or addiction depression uh wanting to uh make uh write new chapters of their life stories metaphorically

00:04:44.020 speaking have spent time there uh it's very it private etc of course uh not so private if you

00:04:51.020 end up going out to dinner many times as we did in our town and if you're a person you and hunter biden

00:04:55.460 that's right yeah it's just wild i don't know what to i mean i i knew hunter biden because he was my

00:05:02.040 neighbor um which is kind of weird but we yeah live near each other um so not that weird but i just

00:05:09.260 did you think it was strange when hunter biden called you man not really because um again uh

00:05:18.440 i've had people uh that i've wanted to help and very gratified to be able to help who have come from

00:05:27.300 far and and wide and sometimes with very different opinions than mine you know i was also the first one

00:05:34.880 to say on national television that transgenderism was a very bad idea and that folks shouldn't let

00:05:40.860 their kids watch chas bono on dancing with the stars don't let your kids watch and then megan kelly

00:05:46.360 said i'm i was spreading hate now she's walked back those kinds of ideas but um i've had transgender

00:05:55.100 people come to me for help with depression or terrible anxiety or horrible delusions once you

00:06:04.540 need help that's the equalizer that brings things to equilibrium and without you know getting too

00:06:12.360 narcissistic and i have that you know tendency um i think i i i'm pretty good at it right and and i

00:06:19.180 love doing it and i love the fact that you don't have to think politically you don't have to think

00:06:25.500 about someone's past i've worked with serial killers right i i worked with the guy who tried to kill

00:06:32.280 me when i first visited him in prison why because in the end people have the capacity to be good

00:06:42.420 uh it's miraculous and i love that it's in fact connected to god that when you use empathy

00:06:50.140 to get to the bottom of someone's real story and heal them i don't know how to explain that

00:06:57.860 i couldn't agree more amen i don't know what that is um and it's not located exclusively in the brain

00:07:05.360 um because that's like saying well i i know about novels because they're in laptops no you don't

00:07:13.160 uh the brain is like the laptop um every experience a person has had um from birth

00:07:21.280 um affects that individual and unpacking that for someone giving them back their story

00:07:28.040 is incredibly powerful so if someone came to me addicted to crack cocaine and said i had horrible

00:07:37.500 experiences as a child uh terribly traumatic experiences and you know some are known about

00:07:43.720 hunter biden so i'm not breaking confidence here you know if you're in a car and your mother and

00:07:48.720 sister are killed while you're in the back seat yes you get a lifetime of struggle in front of you

00:07:54.840 for sure that's the best case right if you're not a serial killer you get a b minus in the abler

00:08:03.180 school of psychiatry yeah right and coming to understand everything from that point forward in your life

00:08:10.080 can free you to do new things and though there are cynics out there who would say that the man's art

00:08:17.420 is a farce and that he has no talent i would say what why should that be the case why can't you find

00:08:26.460 yourself as an artist later in life and why say that the things that that person creates are worth

00:08:34.780 less i'd like to have one i can't do it i can't do what he does so in any case right i mean so that's

00:08:43.900 the way in which i don't like their politics they are anathema to me i think joe biden's the biden's

00:08:51.260 i think joe biden i think it would be mass delusion to suggest that joe biden is not compromised

00:08:57.260 by other governments i think that would be mass delusion but if any one of the biden's came and said

00:09:04.700 i need help i'd say let's go right well that's your job that's what that's your calling do yeah

00:09:12.700 it's a calling and uh and um it's it's been a privilege to do that for people it seems um again

00:09:21.420 without asking you about any of the details of your treatment of hunter biden it sounds like when you stop

00:09:27.180 treating him i think this is right um the authorities went after your medical license they took your guns

00:09:33.740 and the dea raided your house is that correct well they were after my medical license um a little

00:09:39.980 before that but um well no that's not you're right it that's right it coincided with the end of his

00:09:47.500 treatment um that there was that kind of intense uh you know interest in depriving me of my license

00:09:55.660 by the way i've been to court twice i won both times as to the malpractice things one was a

00:10:01.980 malpractice tribunal in massachusetts i won uh second was an assistant of mine a former assistant who said

00:10:09.420 um yeah he harassed me i won once one article like that goes in the paper though the local paper in this

00:10:17.980 case the salem news um people line up i've treated thousands of people and even during

00:10:25.500 so wait you're saying there was a witch hunt in salem there was a witch hunt in salem exactly and

00:10:31.900 and and the truth is you have to take a hard look at massachusetts courts as my lawyer said he said keith

00:10:39.500 we might win five times but if the jury nullifies the truth in one of those cases you could be penniless

00:10:47.340 i settled a few cases because i don't know maybe god saying because you didn't have the quijones i i

00:10:56.620 don't know but i wanted some safety for my family i get it how um i mean i think this is relevant to

00:11:04.460 over 100 million americans how can the authorities take your guns without ever and not return them

00:11:09.020 without ever convicting you of anything a disgruntled former assistant said he doesn't store them the right

00:11:15.340 way but but sure people make all kinds of claims i have no idea how you stored them i know nothing

00:11:21.660 about it i just thought that under our system you had to be convicted before being punished well you

00:11:28.300 know you had um eduardo bolsonaro uh on your broadcast i thought it was a brilliant interview

00:11:34.460 um not so much uh not so much okay because you know you think to yourself i'm in massachusetts

00:11:43.020 they say if they if i won't give them the guns they'll arrest me um you know i had kids at that

00:11:49.900 time younger kids they're older now um a little bit younger and so i thought well i'll get them back

00:11:56.940 eventually i'll get them back uh i'm a tough guy i'll get them back and and likely i will at some

00:12:02.060 point but no they've never given them back they never had a reason to take them i've never been

00:12:07.420 convicted of a crime i've never misused my guns so i was disarmed i was then raided sued multiple times

00:12:20.140 and i've never committed a crime how did hunter biden's laptop wind up in your office or house

00:12:26.940 well i think the text and emails that exist uh would prove out that um you know he leaves laptops places

00:12:34.460 yeah right um and despite my saying to him pick it up dude like along with your lauro piano clothes

00:12:42.780 because they're my size and i might wear them yeah or keep them um uh he didn't and so there it was

00:12:51.580 and it was taken so you knew it was in your house oh yeah it was locked up and you told him you left

00:12:59.660 your laptop at my place pick it up and he didn't correct multiple times and so what happened next

00:13:07.260 i mean did you look at the laptop no never that's why this theory from hunter's pal and benefactor his

00:13:14.620 lawyer kevin morris is absurd because they could open it up he has it back and they could do some

00:13:20.060 sort of forensic look at it not only did i never open the lid i never turned it on i have no interest

00:13:26.300 in looking at somebody's private you were his shrink so you would know his secrets anyway exactly

00:13:32.060 yeah so it's yeah kind of i don't have to look at his laptop to to know his secrets and his secrets

00:13:38.460 are safe with me which is why if you have a lawyer i've said this before if you have a lawyer who

00:13:45.260 represents you and you allow that lawyer to suggest that your shrink is a scumbag then i give you a

00:13:52.780 diagnosis additionally besides cocaine dependence which is scumbag yeah right because that i made clear

00:14:02.300 to a few people who suggested you should have turned it over look what you had you could have helped

00:14:10.540 america no no you don't understand this is sacred this is like a blood oath if you think i'm going to be

00:14:17.820 on my deathbed and look my kids in the eyes and say well i was the one who made it kind of confidential

00:14:25.660 when you go to a psychiatrist uh-uh like i'm willing to die for that i'm not breaking confidentiality with

00:14:33.180 a patient ever that's like one of those trip wires where if someone said to you how do you hope to die

00:14:41.820 i can't you know if you had to pick away i'd say well it would be standing up for a principle and you

00:14:47.660 know losing my life over it if i had to pick that's a principle that i'd say it's worth i get

00:14:53.500 it it's worth it i i agree with you very strongly on that yes that's i know you do i mean so how

00:14:58.220 it wouldn't be doing what you're doing yeah of course especially middle age like you don't need to do it

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00:16:43.260 can i ask about the dea i thought the dea existed to like keep el chapo in check how did like how did

00:16:52.060 that work they show up at your place and do they say by the way do you have any of joe biden's kids

00:16:57.660 stuff here nope uh here's how it happened never talked about before so um but i'm here with you yes

00:17:04.140 i'm grateful you make it easy um so uh no somebody booked an appointment to come see me for help it

00:17:11.500 wasn't an appointment coming see me to see me for help it was the dea coming with armed agents what

00:17:18.380 oh you thought it was a patient and it was armed federal agents armed federal agents knocking on

00:17:23.180 the door i walked downstairs i you know in order to deal with my own anxiety which is real

00:17:29.340 you know i said uh does anyone want coffee uh no we can't have coffee we can't accept that

00:17:35.820 it's like well that's unfortunate and sort of not very warm of you but what are you here for

00:17:42.140 please let's just get our work done so you know they go they didn't tell you why they were there

00:17:48.140 no no they have a warrant and they go through everything my sock drawer etc i was you know

00:17:54.460 um and they take everything they want and they take all your business computers they took my

00:18:00.540 therapy notes on my therapy okay this is like an eagleton thing we're going back sometime yeah

00:18:07.500 right um and uh keep it for years returned it only recently kept it for what four years three four

00:18:18.300 years um returned it only recently and uh you know looked through everything and i've committed no

00:18:25.100 crime and there won't be a criminal charge against me um so uh it leaves you wondering what the

00:18:32.140 well yeah i mean that's why i wanted to talk to you what the hell is this part of the american

00:18:37.420 legal system as my lawyer explained to me i said well let's look at the subpoena he said that

00:18:41.660 we can only do that if they file a suit against you i said well really i can't examine what they

00:18:49.100 presented to a judge to be able to come to my office without there being litigation that's right

00:18:54.220 well that's a problem a problem so it's like a star chamber and you don't get to know what you've

00:18:59.740 been accused of you don't get to know what you've been accused of obviously someone you know i'm a

00:19:06.300 trump supporter in massachusetts i should dig a moat around my office right i should have like

00:19:12.140 fire breathing dragons around the office but they were clearly there to cause me

00:19:17.980 trouble i mean what here's a funny story so one of the agents takes out of my desk a vial the vial

00:19:28.140 has blue powder in it he looked at me says doc i said it's a long story he said it always is

00:19:38.140 i said you see that carved bear on my desk he said yeah i said well that carved stone bear was given

00:19:45.740 to me by a native american chief that i treated and he said if i feed it ground up turquoise stone

00:19:54.220 that i will get courage from the bear and that there is what you have in your hand i said by

00:19:59.420 the way the bear doesn't really eat it it's a metaphor and he i said but maybe you take it and

00:20:04.860 you test it and he said no no even you couldn't come up with that that fast it's too weird to be fake

00:20:11.500 right it's too weird to be fake um but when a native american chief gives you a bear and says

00:20:16.780 feed it turquoise stone ground up that's what you do right you don't want to mess with that kind of juju

00:20:25.100 that's crazy so they never did never explained what they were doing there and never explained they have

00:20:31.660 guns you don't uh they have guns you don't i texted roger stone and i said man me you and trump

00:20:39.660 raided who doesn't get raided and he because he's roger stone he texted right back the bad guys

00:20:48.380 yeah he's right unfortunately he's right so and then how did they get hunter biden's laptop at that

00:20:57.340 point so they're going through your house presumably going through my house they're like unlock everything

00:21:00.700 open everything unlock everything open everything and they take that along with other things they

00:21:06.940 took my laptop uh they took my cell phone it's and cell phones and old cell phones and so um that

00:21:14.860 was one of the items and then i immediately called my lawyer and i said look a patient's item was taken

00:21:21.420 amongst the things that were mine it has a sticker on it it looks different than mine it's messy

00:21:28.460 mine are clean this was messy um we have to get it back to him because that's not okay and uh that's

00:21:37.260 what we did did did did they ask for hunter biden's laptop or did they just sweep it up no they just

00:21:43.980 swept it did they know it was his did you tell him didn't tell him and yet they returned it to him

00:21:49.980 yes they did well how did that happen well you know i mean i did suggest that that would be the

00:21:58.300 right thing for them to do um they may they could have made a different decision given that he was under

00:22:03.340 investigation federally but they didn't and so that's their business um as to why not um but you

00:22:11.660 know it sort of put me in a funny position because i had guys like garrett ziggler who's a you know a far

00:22:17.340 right guy saying you know keith hablo must be in business selling drugs with hunter biden he

00:22:23.820 wouldn't turn over that laptop he had it all this time well no it's patient confidentiality and but

00:22:29.980 by the way when you had that laptop i mean of course no one knew you had it no one knew you were

00:22:34.380 treating hunter biden maybe outside of salem um but uh you were raided that laptop was taken

00:22:42.780 months before the story before i heard the story that the laptop existed i mean we we

00:22:47.260 first got its contents in october of 2020 and this was february of 2020 right and so um yeah no idea

00:22:57.340 as to um motive uh agenda uh again i mean i did have a disgruntled former employee made one who thinks

00:23:07.980 the laptop had nothing to do with it would say well maybe that person told them that you were selling

00:23:13.980 drugs they raided a pharmacy in my town at the same time in newburyport mass again no charges

00:23:21.580 it's run by a very nice guy lewis he's about 85 um but in any case um did anyone apologize to you

00:23:29.500 no uh no and it's not necessarily over they they never say oh by the way sorry and you have a clean

00:23:37.180 bill and and wait so they can just show up with guns at your house not explain why they're there

00:23:41.180 that's right steal all your stuff and then never charge you much less convict you and then it's

00:23:48.540 kind of hangs over your head it hangs over your head and if i had called my lawyer prior to this

00:23:53.740 you would have said absolutely not you are not going on tucker carlson's show because as you know

00:24:01.180 you're still under federal investigation right and so any doctor any doctor in america if you said did

00:24:10.700 you have to ever wonder whether you can call in prescriptions around the country for pharmacies

00:24:16.700 would say i don't know i've done it is that is that a bad thing if they fill it um but if they find out

00:24:24.540 that any single doctor did that for instance they can make a beef about it so this is a way to shut

00:24:32.140 people up right because anybody right can be messed with as ben carson said at the prayer breakfast

00:24:40.300 years ago if i wanted to get you or you or you i could do it he meant the irs but there are lots of

00:24:48.220 other ways and the reason i'm here aside from the fact that you are the patriot you are and we were

00:24:54.860 friends back at our former employee employer uh is that um i don't like being shut up good and it's

00:25:03.820 it's one of those moments where you think man it's safer not to really safer um but then you got to live

00:25:13.260 with yourself and that's complicated so if you allow yourself to be shut up as most americans uh

00:25:20.940 will learn sooner or later you got to make a choice right whether you're going to speak your mind yes

00:25:27.580 which is a way of reinforcing yourself like the self is connected to god it's fueled by god it is god

00:25:37.660 really your core true self where did it come from we don't know that's good that means it's incredibly

00:25:45.580 powerful if you don't speak your mind out of a desire for safety which i understand you die a little

00:25:53.820 bit i strongly agree so just listening to you talk it's like most people i've got complicated views of

00:26:01.820 psychiatry and i don't understand it because i'm not a psychiatrist but i'm hearing you talk about

00:26:08.140 what's inside a person it's more than just the sum total of chemical reactions in the brain you're

00:26:13.980 describing a soul and that is not a conversation that you hear very often even from psychiatrists

00:26:21.500 and sigmund freud who whose ideas form the basis of psychiatry globally is in the west anyway

00:26:27.340 was a was it the center of the public conversation even 40 years ago has been disappeared from history

00:26:35.020 can you describe what you think is going on there the change i've noticed i don't understand it

00:26:39.980 well you're right psychiatrists graduating today most often are never in psychotherapy themselves

00:26:47.580 many of them could never perform psychotherapy most of them are now doling out their time in 10

00:26:52.700 minute increments to write prescriptions that match one of 300 or more diagnoses that are in the

00:27:00.140 psychiatry manual the dsm5tr or whatever it's called now which neatly fit with insurance company

00:27:08.060 reimbursement for those disorders so all these forces have aligned to crush the heart of psychiatry

00:27:17.100 which is really about restoring the individual to him or herself that makes psychiatry public enemy

00:27:24.380 number one what does that mean restoring i i feel like you're saying something very important so i just

00:27:29.340 want to make sure it's clear what it is what does that mean restoring a person to himself well so

00:27:34.860 human beings really do have inborn talents they have belief systems that evolve but they're based upon

00:27:45.260 something very deep um they suffer depression anxiety all manner of things when their stories are not known

00:27:54.300 to them when they think of people let's say in the family or others or events that unfolded as beneficial

00:28:02.060 to them when they were say very bad for them they need to recast the characters that they thought

00:28:08.940 were the heroes in their lives and say maybe not maybe when i abandoned myself my interest to take a a

00:28:18.380 common example maybe when i allowed myself to not pursue that real passion of mine because i wanted to

00:28:25.740 satisfy people around me um maybe that means that those people didn't love me as much as i thought they did

00:28:34.140 right now that's that's an incredible epiphany when that happens if a man for instance is supposed to

00:28:41.660 be an artist and he goes around the globe doing deals uh to create wealth for his family uh because

00:28:51.740 he's not sure what else to do because that was assigned to him um that man needs to embrace his art

00:28:57.820 again and reevaluate everyone around him who suggested he not do that and i i think you're

00:29:03.820 describing in a much more detailed way the phrase you used to hear but never do now which is be true

00:29:10.140 to yourself be true to yourself is the key to psychiatry because the truth is now they want to match

00:29:17.740 one or another anti-psychotic or anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medicine to your symptoms that can be

00:29:23.340 very helpful but they forgot the other part like the 75 which is you can literally hear voices or see

00:29:30.060 visions based on being disconnected from your core right so you hear these things almost as echoes

00:29:39.260 of your core self and they're transmuted and you can't make sense of them wait so you're saying the

00:29:45.900 way you structure society can cause mental illness there's no question the way we're structuring

00:29:51.100 uh society right now we're calling half the people or more believe that people might be born in the

00:29:58.860 wrong bodies that's a mass delusion i'm talking about transgenderism right now okay i was the first

00:30:06.060 one to say on national television that transgenderism wasn't actually people being born on the wrong

00:30:11.980 bodies it's a mental illness right it's not different than if someone came to you and said i'm a cia agent

00:30:18.300 your first question would not be what's your code name especially if it's your kid right right

00:30:25.660 fair fair and what would that be it would be a storm that you'd say oh my god

00:30:33.980 we're going to go through hell for years my child is psychotic let's figure out did we somehow play a

00:30:41.340 role can we unravel this story all that's gone because number one we're suggesting look at all

00:30:48.860 the things a country doesn't need a border to be a country what that's insane okay uh the president uh

00:30:58.940 although uh there's dramatic evidence that he's compromised by foreign countries uh he's not and

00:31:07.100 he makes decisions just in the interest of the united states delusion craziness we're being asked to

00:31:13.740 be crazy and we're killing off psychiatry at the same time because psychiatry is a source of sanity

00:31:22.220 right uh so you look at the the transgenderism the president the president doesn't have dementia

00:31:30.540 his doctor says so well that is another form of insanity you're asking me to be delusional

00:31:37.980 and in order for me to be delusional i must be cut off from myself or my soul that's my anchor and the

00:31:45.340 anchor again being a symbol of god christianity etc right i'm unanchored now i'm adrift what do you

00:31:53.020 do when you're adrift you cling to anything that offers you safety that you think offers you safety in

00:31:58.300 a storm the government that's what's up kill psychiatry that's just a little part of it

00:32:07.100 kill people's anchor their compass their sense of self suggest to them can you imagine the work it is

00:32:14.060 for kids who are told in schools which they are now close your eyes and i know this this was done in

00:32:20.780 massachusetts in a school i know whole school assembled mandatory close your eyes and i want

00:32:27.900 you to think about what gender you really are not what you were born as what you really are can you

00:32:36.300 imagine the mental work the incredible knots you're tying in people's psyches right there it's

00:32:43.100 he was good enough to say let's leave the planet with kool-aid i mean at least he sounded completely

00:32:51.820 crazy these people pretend to be sane and to be doing it in your interest well we're freeing your

00:32:58.860 kids so if you go to boston children's hospital today and by the way this is when i first resigned i

00:33:03.900 resigned from the american psychiatric association because they won't take a stand on this at all um but

00:33:09.340 if you go to boston children's hospital today or many other pediatric medical centers and you are

00:33:14.460 naive enough to think you're going there for help for your child who has said i'm not a girl i'm actually

00:33:20.860 a boy and i want to have a double mastectomy if you don't toe the line and say let's go let's let's

00:33:29.020 start the uh testosterone shots and make you know katie into ken if you don't do that you're going to be

00:33:37.900 visited by the department of social services the way i was visited by the dea and they're going to

00:33:43.100 say you're not going to be that child's parent we're going to have a guardian that light them

00:33:47.580 because that child is not your daughter it's your son and you won't accept that

00:33:54.620 you must be delusional in order to function to some extent in a society that is asking you

00:34:01.580 to remove yourself from sanity

00:34:10.940 and needless to say not one person who's mutilated a child destroyed these lives and repeated lies has

00:34:16.060 had his medical license pulled but you have so right like how many of of all the physicians in

00:34:22.860 the united states what you're what you're saying i think is indisputable um and you'll be rewarded for

00:34:27.900 it at some point i hope in this life uh but how many physicians practicing now do you think

00:34:33.900 would be willing to say what you just said out loud a handful um a handful and uh you know when

00:34:43.500 i first said it i was on what i thought was friendly ground uh and you know again she's retraced

00:34:50.940 those steps and megan kelly said you're just spreading hate when i said don't let your kids watch

00:34:55.820 chas bone on dancing with the stars they're going to turn this person into a hero not a hero a hero

00:35:03.500 and your kids are watching and they may be thinking huh this is a good way to get some attention

00:35:09.500 or to torture my parents or lots of things right right and uh i remember right after that i ran to uh

00:35:17.500 roger ale's office i'm like dude you're not gonna believe what just happened i was attacked on our air

00:35:22.700 for saying this about transgenderism he said but that's the truth because he was a giant right and

00:35:29.500 i said okay can you know can we try to not have that happen he said yeah absolutely um but you know

00:35:36.460 i often think sometimes if there were more guys like that and how'd they kill him by the way they

00:35:40.780 killed him with accusations about sex it's it's so crazy freud would be laughing his butt off or is in

00:35:49.260 the grave if we ever said you know the way that they take care of people who disagree with the

00:35:55.180 status quo which is about trying to stop sanity that they accuse them of sexual things you'd be like

00:36:01.980 well yeah uh people can't get their minds away from that and there's all kinds of deep feelings

00:36:08.940 between men and women about sex if you want to destroy someone just say that that person is a sexual

00:36:16.060 predator what happened to trump 30 years ago in a department store he supposedly attacked somebody

00:36:22.620 right now you have to be very careful because what if i got sued what if i said it wasn't true

00:36:27.420 i might get sued by the plaintiff they shut people up and they asked them to accept delusion as truth and

00:36:37.980 this sounds like a novel like 1984 because it is well i i have to say it's a very noticeable trend

00:36:43.580 i haven't heard anyone else note it but that people who get crossways with say the cia

00:36:50.300 seem to have like a higher than average likelihood of having kiddie porn found on their computers

00:36:57.100 exactly absolutely and by the way this is one reason there are many reasons i love donald trump

00:37:03.660 um but one of the reasons is because on national television during a debate for the first

00:37:08.780 uh presidency that he will serve um i hope um he held up his hands and he said and now they're hitting

00:37:17.260 on my hands and they're saying that because these are small something else is small and i'm telling

00:37:23.260 you there's no problem in that department and i was i was up out of my seat i'm like freud would be

00:37:30.060 applauding madly because nobody can do that you have to be a psychological giant to talk about your private

00:37:37.580 parts on national television and say people say they're small but they're not nobody can do that

00:37:44.380 that's what a fascinating reaction but that's a guy who will say you know what they're crossing the

00:37:50.380 border in droves we're building a wall yep same guy that's the guy we need why do they call trump

00:37:59.660 psychologically fragile they could well they call him psychologically fragile because it's an it's a

00:38:05.420 convenient way to attack people um to say oh he's you know he's not well uh they also say he's

00:38:13.900 psychologically fragile because if you're looking through a filter that is blurry and uh misdirected

00:38:22.380 you might see his truths as not as him not being well it's just the truth right when he said even in

00:38:33.500 the van bad moment in that trailer or whatever when he said you know when you're famous you can do this

00:38:39.900 yeah yeah uh crass he called it locker room truth locker room talk i might say well wait a second

00:38:50.620 it's very weird but when you're famous and rich why is it i would at least open up the question

00:38:55.820 why is it that that's an aphrodisiac why do men or women uh allow more degrees of freedom if you're famous

00:39:07.180 strong and rich we don't know that we should think about that but what he was saying was

00:39:14.140 joking about the fact that that's not been explained and it is true and it is true so people

00:39:20.940 say he's crazy no no no he just told you the truth but you can't hear it so you're going to call it crazy

00:39:29.260 right uh the notion that you should vote with paper ballots and they should actually count them

00:39:34.300 this would seem to be rational uh but it it could you know satisfy the criteria for the dsm

00:39:42.860 5 tr plus in the future well why are you saying that why would you possibly think that there'd be

00:39:49.740 any monkey business with an election now again uh you say things like that and what they're trying to do is

00:39:57.500 make everybody scared of saying anything true or anything that they wonder about as to whether it

00:40:03.580 might be true donald trump is partly the antidote to that because he just speaks the truth almost

00:40:10.540 obsessively it's almost an obsession uh that he doesn't adulterate truth uh which is why uh when people

00:40:21.820 would say well i i'm not sure that he likes minorities i'd be like are you kidding me if

00:40:26.780 you ever said to donald trump i know this black woman who's like she might be 0.05 percent more

00:40:34.140 talented than this white male but you know i think you should hire the white male because you know that's

00:40:39.900 a white male he he'd beat the hell out of you he'd be like what you want to cheat me out of 0.05 percent

00:40:46.380 of talent are you kidding me he won't have it because it's all about the talent it's all about

00:40:55.580 the truth and there's no hatred there at all for anybody and the numbers now show it i think and

00:41:03.180 the numbers show it yeah so look last last question i first of all let me just say i love how interested

00:41:10.220 you are in what is true and how willing you are to pause and ask the first and most important question

00:41:15.820 which is it true i mean i think that you know if you're not willing to do that then you're serving

00:41:19.260 lies it's that simple but what can the average person you just said that part of the antidote is

00:41:24.940 is trump um but what for the you know average person is not in control of who's president

00:41:32.140 or of much else actually so how do you stay sane in a society that demands you lie and is pushing you

00:41:40.460 toward mental illness which is clearly where we live that's exactly right and part of the end there

00:41:45.500 there are several parts of the antidote one is say what you think and take some lumps it's okay

00:41:52.380 you're going to be stronger okay i mean not everybody can be donald trump and defy you know

00:41:58.300 wrong-minded courts around the country and the rest of it okay we don't have to be that but by the way

00:42:03.180 it's the biggest self-help course the world has ever seen just watch him and do some of that that's

00:42:08.700 going to be as good as tony robbins or even a little better right i love tony robbins yeah but

00:42:13.740 but you know it's going to be just like that and it's free so just watch him do what he does get a dog

00:42:20.140 right i mean why because i love these answers right get a dog you're speaking my language because the dog

00:42:27.260 loves you and you need to and you'll have unconditional love for love for the dog right it's just the truth

00:42:34.860 right the the dog isn't lying to you and you're not going to lie to the dog i mean it's big exercise

00:42:41.580 why your body is important right i have a friend uh who talks about posture as the key to well-being

00:42:48.780 be in your body why because they're going to try to take you out of your body at every turn right and

00:42:54.380 some of its technology technology is primed to remove you from your body and just say well you're

00:43:00.860 really just your profile on facebook or you're really just your avatar well no i'm really not

00:43:07.420 um i really am connected here to my body and i know it because i go for walks or you know look what's

00:43:13.900 happening the world's trying to help us the ama tried to ban boxing that's thought of as very quaint

00:43:21.740 now given mma yeah because the world tries to reset it's like you know what we better get back in our

00:43:27.500 bodies let's have guys have to tap out uh before their arms or legs are broken and people would say

00:43:32.780 well that's grotesque it's it's horrible no no it's part of the antidote we need it right now because

00:43:38.700 otherwise we're going to be evaporated into technology lies delusions tell people you love them if you

00:43:48.300 really do that's a wonderful antidote to falsehood that's an amazing thing right if anybody who has a

00:43:58.060 kid you'd give your left and right arm to save one of their hands that's the truth that's truth

00:44:09.020 think about that that'll help you you might meditate meditation centers people

00:44:15.740 why because it's about you connecting to god really i mean it doesn't have to be a far out

00:44:22.380 thing or an eastern philosophy or anything else it's just about you sitting there and realizing you

00:44:27.420 know what i'm breathing i'm here and then there's some other nice tricks like if you're feeling troubled

00:44:35.660 i like to tell people this if you really have your back against the wall think of yourself as sitting

00:44:41.580 in a movie cinema watching your own life story and i like to tell people how many people when

00:44:47.260 tom cruise is in trouble throw away their popcorn and say let's get out of here he's in a jam

00:44:54.700 absolutely nobody everyone sits there and thinks the same thing i wonder what's gonna happen

00:45:01.820 when you're in pain and you've got troubles all you really have to do to let god do the rest is

00:45:09.340 just say i'm i'm gonna sit here not leaving the theater anybody who's ever thought of god forbid

00:45:15.180 taking his or her life just sit in the theater it's gonna get better and that's some of it okay so

00:45:23.660 i've got six if i'm remembering correctly the first is to speak your mind the second is to get a dog and

00:45:30.060 experience the unconditional love of the dog the third is to live in your body get in touch with your

00:45:35.180 body you're a physical being you're not just spirit or mist okay the fourth would be to get some quiet

00:45:43.580 and commune with god or listen meditate yes as you said um the fifth would be get some distance some

00:45:52.060 perspective on your on your life maybe it was just five i'll add a sixth which is allow yourself to know

00:45:59.740 that you don't know and you know one thing is my son during all this trouble said dad you know it

00:46:08.060 doesn't seem like you're really dissolving like are you like why are you not more troubled and i said

00:46:17.180 look i am i'm just not i'm not showing you because that's what dads do okay of course i said but i also

00:46:23.340 look at my own life a bit askance and i think i don't know what this is i don't know what this is

00:46:30.140 for and so if it turns out that at some point in your life my son someone thinks they have your back

00:46:37.580 against the wall and you look at them and you say go f yourself i saw my dad go through this yeah then

00:46:44.220 it all was worth it times 10 and i didn't know that i might not even be on the planet when that happens

00:46:50.620 so a little sense of mystery is good and saying i don't know why this is happening humility humility

00:46:57.580 but there's a plan i don't know the whole plan it's okay man i think you are i don't think i know

00:47:05.340 for a fact you are the most psychologically balanced and healthy psychiatrist i've ever met by far i mean

00:47:10.620 that and i'm just grateful that you came thank you well thank you for having me really uh you are a good

00:47:16.940 litmus test for whether i would speak my mind and therefore you've been my therapist

00:47:23.500 it worked for the first and only time dr keith abo thank you thanks tucker

The Tucker Carlson Show - March 06, 2024

Dr. Keith Ablow

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