Dr. Pierre Kory
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In the first episode of 2020, we take a look at the devastating toll of Fentanyl use in the United States since it was legalized in 2004. We talk to Dr. Pierre Corey, the President and Chief Medical Officer of the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, about the impact of the rollout of the new drug, Fentanyl, and the cost to the country and the world of those who received it. And we ask the question: How many more deaths will there be from Fentanyl and other drugs like Fentanyl in the years to come? And what will that cost the country, the world, and our health care system in the long-term? And who's to blame for all of the deaths? Guest: Dr. Corey. Special thanks to our sponsor, CVS Pharmacy, for sponsoring this episode. Sponsorships: CVS Caremark - Get a FREE Fentanyl Free 7-day VIP trial, and get 20% off your first purchase when you place an order of $99 or more by clicking the link below. Get your own Fentanyl free trial here. Get in touch with Dr. Fauci to set us up to receive a free Fentanyl test, and we'll get access to all the info you need to run the Fentanyl testing and prevent Fentanyl-free Fentanyl preventative care in the U.S. and Canada, free of your choice. Can't get enough? Get Fentanyl? Get in Touch Meals on the Ground here: 800-833-4137-527-RADIO and get 15% off the price of your first order only $99, $99 gets better than $99 and get 10% off an Fentanyl is better than that gets you get 5% off a month, and they'll get $10,000 off the first time you can get a complimentary Fentanyl kit? Get my Fentanyl vouching discount, and I'll send you a $100,000 discount when you enter the offer starts in the program? Learn more about your first month only, and you get $5,000 gets 5,000, and receive $50,000 get $25,000 will get a discount when they can get 5,00, they'll also get $24,000 is a discount, they also get a VIP discount, plus I'll get a 5-day offer, and can get an ad-only course, and a discount gets you an ad discount, $50 is also get 10,000 MBPRIVATE PRICING starts after they get your first, FREE, MBORTER PRICED, AND I'll have access to the full course?
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Yeah, of all the lies told in public over the past 10 years, and there are almost too many to count, this may be the most painful of all. It's almost hard to watch, but we're going to play it anyway. Remember this? Make your plan to get one of these vaccines. They are safe and effective. If there's one message,
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it needs to cut through all this. The vaccines are safe, I promise you. They are safe and effective. Listen to Dr. Fauci.
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When we say that something is safe and effective, we mean it's safe and effective for everyone.
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Our vaccinations against COVID-19 are safe. They are effective, and they're more important than ever.
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This vaccine has gone through the necessary and rigorous evaluation that ensures the vaccine is safe and highly effective.
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Of course, they were neither safe nor effective, and that was obvious right away, as people who took the vaccine continued to get COVID, and more ominously, as some of them began to die.
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And a lot of them, probably people around you, got sick in ways that no one anticipated.
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Anyone watching this carefully, and watching it at all, would know both of those things.
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And yet, most physicians in this country lied about it, continued to lie about it, and to this day lie about it.
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But today, we'd like to introduce you to someone who bravely told the truth, regardless of the cost, to himself personally.
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He's the President and Chief Medical Officer of the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance.
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And the point is really not to resurrect an incredibly painful moment in the country's history.
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So you hear, and one of the reasons I'm so grateful you're here is because I think you're a responsible, science-based person who's practiced medicine for decades, and what you say can be trusted.
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Do we have any real sense of what the cost, the physical cost, to the country and world has been of those vaccines?
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I do think we have some understanding of the cost.
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I mean, I think you're aware of the work of Ed Dowd, who's put together a team and looked analytically at a lot of the epidemiologic data.
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I mean, we have estimates for how many people have been killed.
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We have estimates now, pretty precise estimates, for how many people have landed on the disability rolls.
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And all of those deaths and entries onto disability are timed with the answer to the vaccination rollout.
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And, you know, all these discussions about alternative explanations for why that might be, they all fail because you cannot argue against the temporal association.
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I mean, time with that vaccination rollout is when all of the numbers started going sideways.
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Like, you were to, on the conservative side, you know, trying to be as responsible and fact-based as possible.
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But, like, in this country, what kind of death toll are we looking at?
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So just the most kind of alarming data that I've been writing about is just in 2023 alone, in the first nine months, we had what's called an excess mortality of 158,000 Americans.
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Now, that's compared to baseline death rates in this country to before the pandemic.
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I mean, we've had Omicron now for two years, which is a mild variant.
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When you look at what's driving, those 158,000 deaths, and by the way, that's more than all wars since Vietnam, including Vietnam.
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That's more people dying than we've lost in wars.
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Now, all of that, that 158,000 is not all from, let's say, vaccines.
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Obviously, we have other societal ills which are troubling us.
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But those are actually pretty well accounted for.
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Fentanyl did not just arrive in this country in the third quarter of 2021.
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And even more troubling with the data is who is dying?
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I mean, our life expectancy in this country dropped by three years in a span of three years.
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Now, who has to die arithmetically for that to happen?
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And what the data is screaming is that it's not only the young people that are dying, but
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So the employed is a risk factor for death now.
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And so you're left with a conclusion looking at this data.
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Why was there an explosion in the youngest, an explosion in dying in the youngest and healthiest
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And why did the employed fare far worse than those that weren't?
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White-collar more than gray-collar, more than blue-collar.
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So why is the healthiest, most educated, wealthiest sectors of our labor force dying at higher rates
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than those that are what are called gray-collar, like cops and teachers, versus blue-collar?
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And you have to ask yourself, what happened in the American world?
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Because that's the healthiest segment of society, people who are dragging their-
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They tend to be the most educated, employed, wealthy, and so generally the healthiest.
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And that's what my practice is full of today, is formerly really successful, healthy people
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And when you made reference to people joining disability roles, what do those numbers look
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So in three years, we've added, I think at the last count, four million people to the
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The employed entered at higher rates than the unemployed.
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And so why are, again, why are most healthiest employed folks dying at higher rates?
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Because you think, I mean, not to be rude, but I mean, I think social scientists have thought
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Disability is kind of stealth welfare for a lot of people.
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But if you're, people are leaving, like, decent jobs, that's, that, the medical condition is
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Why would someone leave a job to go on disability?
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I mean, disability is not, compared to being employed, it certainly doesn't offer you the
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No, no, no, it's like a seasonal thing, you're a carpenter in a cold climate, wintertime
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And the most telling is really the data from the group life insurance industry, because
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group life insurance is generally, you're talking about Fortune 500 companies, right?
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So those of us who work for employers that offer us group life health insurance tend
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to be large corporations, well, you know, that have the kind of resources that they can
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And when you look at the group life insurance industry, that, that was the kind of the canary
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in the coal mine is when we started to see the reports in the life insurance industry,
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where you saw in the third quarter of 2021, just immense, a doubling of the death rates
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in the age groups of 25 to 30, 20, yeah, 25 to 34 and 35 to 44.
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And in one quarter, you just saw this explosion and dying.
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So it's, you've been practicing medicine for decades.
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You practice for a long time in an academic setting at a big, big research university.
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So presumably you're familiar with these kinds of data sets.
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Has anything like this happened that you're aware of before?
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And that comes from CEOs of the life insurance industry, right?
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So one of the big sort of events was at the end of 2021, the CEO of One America, one of
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the largest life insurance companies at a chamber of conference, commerce meeting in
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Indianapolis said that they were observing an increase in life insurance claims of 40%.
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Remember, this is life insurance industry, right?
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Setting premiums appropriately so that there's a profit.
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If they see a 10% unexpected rise in a certain sector of society, that is a one in 200 year
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Unprecedented, outside of wartime, outside of some major terrorist event.
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What could be causing such an explosion in dying of healthy employed people?
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This is almost like private knowledge because we can't bring this private knowledge out into
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Well, I think if I, you know, looking at your, the kind of the montage you showed before we
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started to talk, you know, that, that refrain of safe and effective, it's my kind of belief
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looking back and now is that was a predetermined conclusion.
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There was no data to support that, but it was agreed upon that it would be presented as
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And for those of us who were a little bit more skeptical, more data-driven, we saw that
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it was based on really no data, and the data started going sideways south.
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But the refrain got louder and more pervasive, and then they doubled down.
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Well, that's a criminal act that you're describing.
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So, I mean, I could ask you so many different questions about why the people who made that
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claim and abetted the killing of all these Americans aren't being held to criminal liability
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But, now that I was as a lawyer, what was the effect on your life when you started to describe
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So, I'm going to say that before I sort of dug deep on the data, I was seeing things clinically
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Clinically, meaning just observationally in my practice, people approaching me-
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They started to send me that something was going on.
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And to other colleagues that I know that were observant, like-
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So, people started to come to me complaining of lots of different problems after the vaccine.
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And, you know, I was advocating for a lot of things, fighting censorship propaganda.
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Suppression of early treatment drugs is another.
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Slightly different tactics, but propaganda and censorship were the main weapons.
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So, I've been kind of fighting one war and then got very interested in the vaccines because
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Started to work with some of those non-profits.
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You know my non-profit, which is- we're a medical education organization focused solely
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on developing treatment protocols for all phases of COVID.
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But then we started to get really interested in vaccine injury because it was a new disease.
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The entire country medical system calls the chronic problems after COVID, they call it long COVID.
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But the reality is, if you look at my practice, maybe 1,200 patients, 70% are long vax, not long COVID.
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Meaning all of their issues, the syndrome started after the vaccine, not COVID.
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So, the only disease that's recognized in this country is long COVID.
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All the academic medical centers, they have these little long COVID clinics.
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So, there's this constant burying of the role of the vaccine in what's befallen society.
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I mean, that's so evil that it's hard to believe it's happening.
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It not only threatens the reputation, credibility of our health agencies, which is already, I think, splintered and fragmented.
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I mean, a week ago, a paper was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
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I just saw it this morning, where they actually surveyed people's attitudes towards the agencies and the vaccines.
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And a majority, about half to 60%, all have concerns over whether these things are safe.
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Now, I don't think that was going to be the answer two years ago.
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But a good portion of society now is now questioning not only whether the agencies are telling the truth when they make these proclamations, but you can see it in their hesitancy to get the boosters.
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So I do think that people are slowly becoming aware.
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But for those of us who've been aware for a long time and have been trying to fight to get people informed, it's been a war.
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And all of us have suffered from censorship, loss of jobs.
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I've lost three jobs in COVID from my advocacy and expertise.
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My first one, I have to admit, I resigned, but for very serious reasons, I saw what I thought was unethical behavior that was early in COVID.
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The second one is because I gave public testimony in the Senate around the use of ivermectin.
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And then the third one, it's pretty clear that that came from outside.
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Because they just had too many competent doctors.
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So my organization, we call ourselves the FLCCC, founded by Professor Paul Merrick, who's the most published practicing intensivist in the history of our specialty.
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He was railroaded out of his hospital with a sheaf of complaints about his behavior after 30 years as a physician, as a celebrated physician who's won awards, lectured all over the world.
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Suddenly he has eight complaints, and they get rid of his privileges.
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My other colleague, Umberto Maduri, one of the world experts on the use of corticosteroids, he works for the VA, which is the federal government.
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They told him they would take his pension if he didn't resign.
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And he was also privately told that that information came from Washington.
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And I've seen this in some of my other colleagues.
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Jim Thorpe, one of the most outspoken OB-GYNs in the country, he lost his job, even being the most productive physician in that group.
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They need us to lose our jobs so that we lose credibility, so that we lose our voice.
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Because nobody wants to listen to someone who is uncredible.
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They do this to Bobby Kennedy all the time to try to censor him, right?
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Because if they can't get you to shut up, they just take away your reputation.
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But if the evidence presented you suggested strongly that the compound you're suggesting or requiring is killing people, you would think your own conscience would restrain you.
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I don't want to make excuses for people's behavior, but I will be generous and say I think many of them trafficked in a toxic medical intervention,
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I think many can claim ignorance because I think most physicians are victims of the lies propagated in the high-impact journals.
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What's happened to the high-impact medical journals over the last several decades, how they've been completely captured and run by the pharmaceutical industry,
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means that the pharmaceutical industry can get doctors to believe whatever they want.
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Well, I usually say the big five, you know, it's New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association,
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The Lancet, the BMJ, and Annals of Internal Medicine.
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But when you get a paper in there, I mean, that's like, you know, planting a stake in the ground of truth, right?
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And so if you get a paper, a review paper saying that something's safe and effective, those doctors are now responsible to inform you.
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And I got to tell you, Tucker, this is what I believed before COVID.
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I really thought the best science and scientists were published there.
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And to get a paper in there, I thought it would have to be, you know, airtight, best study design, most meticulous data keeping and analysis.
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And former editors of those journals are on record.
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As long as 20 years ago, the former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, a woman named Dr. Marsha Angel, she wrote that over half of what's published in those journals, you should not be believed.
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And she was a 20 year editor of the top journal in the world.
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Former editors of the BMJ have tried to say that these warnings have been put out, but they're suppressed.
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We don't have a class in medical school, by the way, of pharmaceutical industry influence in medicine.
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I think that should be a required curriculum for anyone going into medicine.
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But we are purposely kept in the dark as to how controlled and how much financial interests are involved in everything.
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The guidelines we read, the studies that are done, the studies that are not done.
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So there's things that they don't want to study because they don't afford profits to the system.
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The way I look at science and medicine now is extremely different.
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So how aware of any of this were you before 2020?
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I think my understanding of pharmaceutical industry corruption was like at the level of the drug rep.
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You know, the very pretty or handsome drug rep who comes in with the high heels and the nice smile and gives pens and invites you to dinner.
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Like I thought it was that kind of corruption was like most of what they did.
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And they can get doctors, going back to the original question, they can get doctors to believe whatever they want to get doctors to believe.
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And doctors still have an implicit faith and trust in the institutions of science, including which is the agency.
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When they make a proclamation on national television, that's considered to be scientific truth.
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Something published in a high impact medical journal is scientific truth.
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So they believe these institutions without knowing that they've been captured.
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It acts in tandem in this country, and this is a new thing, with corporate America.
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It's corporate America that's making America ugly.
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It's corporate America that's building dollar stores in your neighborhood.
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It's corporate America that employs the HR morons who scold you and try to dehumanize you.
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You hate to think we've gotten to a place where corporate America is as great a threat to you as, say, the federal government under Joe Biden.
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your values are learn more at public square.com why do you think all these people are dying
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from the vaccine yeah now we're going to get sciency um no no but why do they i mean so
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you know i i understand everything you're saying and i'm trying to be compassionate and i've been
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misled many times in my life and so people can be misled of course but if you have a massive rise
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in life insurance claims in group policies like even i understand that is wait slow down what's
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going on how do they account for that they don't know about that they don't know about that
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i mean i would say things have changed in the last few months so uh since august uh myself and
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my writing partner mary beth pfeiffer really terrific investigative journalist who first wrote a book
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looking into chronic lyme disease um she's done great work throughout covet and she and i have now
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written three op-eds in usa today newsweek and then a couple weeks ago the hill and each op-ed is a little
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bit more it's calling attention to all of the excess death like why is our government our public
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health agencies not doing anything about this i mean they literally have one job which is to protect
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public health yes and they're sitting on an unprecedented surge in dying of americans the
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youngest and healthiest of americans and they seem to not be questioning that and so we are trying to
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call attention to that and i would say the last one that got published in the hill
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that seemed to create a little bit of a news cycle you know i was on fox with laura ingram i think they
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were she was interested in learning more about this and and we've seen that you know there's a little
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bit of social media traction but there's there's no official governmental recognition now they've put out
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uh papers uh showing that they're aware of the mortality but no follow-up they just or they'll give a
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list of reasons right like the list of reasons well they don't always get as ridiculous as global warming but
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they get close um just trying to explain away this sudden surge in death and it can't be done so
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what i mean what is the cdc for example or the federal government more broadly doing for the vaccine
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injured very very little i'll give you an example so uh remember there is no no such thing as
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vaccine injury syndrome although i specialize and i have a whole practice which focuses on it
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it's all long covet so let's just pretend that they're studying vaccine injury with long covet um
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1.2 billion dollars has been uh dedicated to funding long covet research this is as of two months ago
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only four trials were set up to enroll patients only one trial was ready to enroll patients and that was
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a trial studying paxlovid paxlovid if anyone could ever tell me one rational reason why that would work
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in long covet i'm all ears there's no justifiable rationale for why you would study paxlovid now why
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you would want to study paxlovid that i can easily answer it's a very profitable drug for a certain
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pharmaceutical company but literally we're three years into the pandemic we don't have like a really good
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response into studying and treating long covet instead it's me and a whole network of colleagues
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and my organization that are really sharing experiences um insights into pathophysiology we're
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doing reviews of like a lot of basic science studies showing us what the mechanisms of injury
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are from the spike protein from the virus from the vaccine and we're trying to marshal mechanistic
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therapies but like it's it's like we're out we're out here in the wild west doing it on our own and
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it's really a shame because it doesn't have to be this way this is not what you signed up for when
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you became a physician no i i mean i was a system physician i was embedded in that system like i told
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you i was uh you know i believed in the journals i taught i taught what i was taught i believed all
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vaccines were safe i never questioned vaccines um i mean so why do you think and i think you speak for
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the overwhelming majority of americans when you think our basics you know we've got flaky politicians or
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weird seasons but the the systems the institutions that make this not third world are totally sound
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i think everyone thought i thought that but why what about you allowed you to see what was happening
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and be honest about it why not everyone else well i've always questioned um orthodoxy especially in
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medicine like uh from early on when i was a doctor when i would come in and especially after i got some
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training and i would come into new icu or new hospital i'd see like how they were treating for
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instance like kidney injury uh and i'd be like that's weird that's like data from 15 years ago
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like why aren't we doing it this way we now know this this and this and that could apply to almost
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any you know heart failure heart attacks i knew there was evidence showing more insight and more
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effective therapies but yeah we were doing stuck stuff in the past and i just think change in medicine
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comes very slowly and i was always an early adopter i like to study new novel therapies and so i was
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actually you know i talked about paul maric i was celebrated in my specialty pretty well known
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nationally and even internationally because i was a pioneer in a field called critical care ultra
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sonography and a textbook that i was the senior editor of is like one of the best-selling textbooks
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in that field around the world it's seven languages and so i taught for years around the country
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doctors this new skill on how to use ultrasound to make life-saving diagnoses like critically
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ill you know patients crashing you put a probe on their chest you could see what their heart was
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doing the right ventricle left ventricle the lungs were full of fluid so it was this huge like it
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changed my life when i learned ultrasound i felt like i was a super doctor like a doctor with super
00:26:50.900
powers and i tried to teach those powers and it became standard of care now there's not an ICU in
00:26:56.740
the country that doesn't have an ultrasound machine in it most critical care doctors now get trained
00:27:01.300
there's uh certification exams that you can do and i that's what i did for most of my career and
00:27:06.500
i got interested in something called therapeutic hypothermia which is how to treat patients after
00:27:10.900
cardiac arrest with brain injury and so and i'll just finish by saying when covid came you know i was
00:27:17.140
like game on i mean i was 50 years old i'm a pulmonary critical care physician i saw pulmonary
00:27:21.620
critical care disease literally enveloping the world and i just i think innately just committed to learning
00:27:28.580
everything i could to figure out how to treat it and i had i had some giants around me i had paul
00:27:32.900
maric around me i had umberto maduri around you joe fron you know and jose iglesias that's kind of the
00:27:37.540
five icu docs that started our organization and all we did was read papers and the emails like preprint
00:27:43.780
servers and the papers that we're reading and then we're fashioning protocols we were learning stuff
00:27:48.100
that worked and what didn't and just it was this frenetic uh push and it's it's something that
00:27:54.820
they should have had they should have done that at the governmental level had like a group of
00:28:00.660
committed frontline clinicians have a seat at the table no clinician has ever been given the seat at
00:28:05.140
the table no real front line by clinician you mean a doctor who treats patients yes yeah that's what
00:28:09.940
i mean by client someone who is is literally immersed in patient care now you have people in those three
00:28:15.860
letter agencies who yes they'll see patients on the side most of the time in specialty offices they
00:28:20.900
they weren't deluged seeing like these acutely ill covered patients to the hundreds if not thousands
00:28:25.780
and i was seeing them not only at the most severe stages of the game and in the icu but also as an
00:28:30.260
outpatient and so i had a wealth of experience and insight into the disease and how to treat it
00:28:35.780
no one ever asked us and whenever i would try to bring out my uh insights uh it seemed to get attacked
00:28:40.820
so what did you think of the i mean for a while my impression is that the putting people in respirators
00:28:46.420
was part of the protocol well yeah you know it's that's true it's a little bit of a it's
00:28:51.700
definitely more nuanced than that but i would say this the push to put someone on ventilator they
00:28:57.380
probably did it too early as a rule early on i think a few things drove that it was ignorance of
00:29:02.100
the disease the trajectory of the disease i think there's a little bit of fear around controlling
00:29:06.820
infections so that definitely i think ventilators were overused um but that wasn't in my opinion the
00:29:12.980
main problem main problem was that we were not treating we were literally saying supportive
00:29:17.860
care only this is the first year where you know fluids for hydration uh nutrition oxygen tylenol for
00:29:25.460
fever that's what's called supportive care i could do that in my house yeah you could um but you know
00:29:31.220
that that seemed to be the the our response and like paul says you know my partner he says you know
00:29:36.820
there is no disease you cannot treat and there is really simple stuff that we knew that would help
00:29:41.860
fortify immune systems and help protect against severe disease that we thought that are super safe
00:29:47.380
that on a risk benefit precautionary principle we should have as a rule just recommended vitamin d for
00:29:53.700
one we should add a vitamin d uh you know supplementation campaign were nationwide would have been very easy
00:29:59.780
to do um now as an aside vitamin d has been one of the most attacked substances over the last three
00:30:07.220
or four decades uh by the form of siblings why it threatens it threatens the disease model i mean
00:30:15.780
we can make a we can do an hour on vitamin d tucker but um vitamin d like in milk yes like vitamin d like
00:30:21.940
it's vitamin d is a whole other discussion but they're terrified of vitamin d our normal
00:30:28.340
can i say if you find yourself terrified of vitamins you're probably on the wrong side
00:30:31.460
exactly you're probably on the wrong side there you go i think you got it but but yeah no it's
00:30:37.540
it's um it's you know i wrote a book called the war on ivermectin and and the the the genesis of
00:30:43.700
that book not only is my expertise on ivermectin and my vast clinical experience but and i told the story
00:30:50.500
before but i got an email um during this journey uh from a guy named william b grant he was a professor
00:30:57.220
out in california and he wrote to me this email just one day my life was going totally sideways
00:31:01.700
because our protocols focused on ivermectin i was using a lot in my practice as were tens of thousands
00:31:07.060
of doctors around the world to really good benefits and i was getting attacked there was hit jobs in
00:31:12.740
the media and he wrote me this email and he said dear dr corey what they're doing to ivermectin
00:31:18.740
they've been doing to vitamin d for decades and included a link to an article called the disinformation
00:31:24.100
playbook and it's got five tactics and these are the five tactics that all industries employ
00:31:30.980
when science emerges that's inconvenient to their interest so i'm just going to give you an example
00:31:36.180
ivermectin science was extremely inconvenient to the interest of the pharmaceutical industrial complex
00:31:42.660
i mean it threatened the vaccine campaign it threatened vaccine hesitancy which was public
00:31:47.300
enemy number one we know that that everything all the propaganda censorship was literally going
00:31:52.740
after something called vaccine hesitancy yes trying to experience vaccine hesitancy it's a terrible
00:31:59.060
condition or life-saving i'm so grateful for it it could be a life-saving condition but um they deployed
00:32:06.740
this information and i didn't understand what was going on tucker because when i for instance i gave
00:32:11.940
testimony um in a senate hearing for the first time in may of 2020 had nothing to do with ivermectin i
00:32:17.940
just said that it was critically important that corticosteroids be used in the hospital phase of the
00:32:22.420
disease i was attacked widely for saying that even by my own university they did not want me talking
00:32:27.620
to the press and that was based on the expert opinion of my group umberto maduri was one of them
00:32:32.980
like like i said one of the world experts in lung injury and corticosteroids myself and paul and we
00:32:39.060
were validated there because two months later a trial came out of oxford showing that huge mortality
00:32:44.580
reductions when you use corticosteroids and now it's the standard of care worldwide
00:32:49.060
six months later i go back now i'm an expert at an early treatment drug which is ivermectin
00:32:54.660
do the same testimony it goes viral on on a fox news website which was the most watched got up to
00:33:01.380
nine million views and then it was taken down in the middle of the night and this is before the
00:33:06.260
fraudulent trials which showed that it supposedly didn't work so they had no data to show it didn't
00:33:10.740
work all the data showed that it worked now they changed that equation using disinformation but
00:33:15.220
the point is i couldn't figure out like i gave that testimony the associated press did a hit job
00:33:21.700
on me within two days they sent the reporter i buried her with all this data all these trials
00:33:26.900
all these health ministries you know in south america and other places that were literally
00:33:30.900
obliterating covid and she wrote an article about how um it's another drug to be debunked like
00:33:38.180
hydroxychloroquine and then she even wrote about some couple who drank like a fish cleaner or something like
00:33:44.180
this was in an article interviewing me about ivermectin and it turned into this we actually
00:33:49.300
filed an ethics complaint this is how naive i was at the time this is almost two years ago but
00:33:53.620
or over two years ago we filed an ethics complaint with the associated press we were so disturbed by
00:33:58.180
this article um we didn't know that the fix was in but the point of that story is when he sent me the
00:34:04.100
article the link to that article i read it and it was like my mind exploded i suddenly saw the world
00:34:11.060
different because every tactic that they described i had a dozen examples of in relation to ivermectin
00:34:16.900
and even hydroxychloroquine and so i saw that myself and our organization were literally like the bad news
00:34:23.300
bears fighting like a war a disinformation global disinformation campaign trying to destroy early
00:34:30.180
effective treatment drugs in order to prop up this vaccine campaign craziness that's my life so but
00:34:36.660
i mean what you're really saying is that the drug companies applied pressure to the medical
00:34:40.740
establishment to withhold life-saving treatment so that people would have no option but the vaccine
00:34:48.020
differently i think all of it starts at the level of the medical journals um because once you have
00:34:53.460
something established in the medical journals as a let's say a proven fact or a generally accepted
00:34:59.220
consensus consensus comes out of the journals so that i think that's the core of the corruption
00:35:03.540
and what i in fact in my book i document very well in particular just using the example of ivermectin
00:35:09.540
does not have to be about ivermectin but i mean i have dozens of rejection letters from investigators
00:35:15.460
around the world who did good trials on ivermectin tried to publish it no thank you no thank you no thank
00:35:21.540
you and then the ones that do get in all purportedly prove that ivermectin didn't work
00:35:27.220
so and then when you look at the ones that actually got in and this is where like probably my biggest
00:35:33.540
estrangement and why i don't recognize science and don't trust it anymore is the trials that flew to
00:35:39.540
publication in the top journals in the world were so brazenly manipulated and corrupted into design and
00:35:45.220
conduct and many of us wrote about it um but they flew to publication and then every time they were
00:35:51.940
published you saw these huge pr campaigns in the media new york times boston globe la times
00:35:58.100
ivermectin doesn't work latest high quality rigorous study says i'm sitting here in my office watching
00:36:04.500
these lies just ripple throughout the media sphere based on fraudulent studies published in the top
00:36:10.580
journals and that's that's that has changed now that's why i say i'm estranged and i don't know what to trust
00:36:18.500
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you speak for so many but you speak from obviously a much deeper reservoir of knowledge when you say
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that which makes it i lived it um is there hope for reform um at the medical journal level i don't know
00:40:00.740
i think that's a complex topic although i don't want to get political here but i did listen to an
00:40:05.700
interview with bobby kennedy and he he i i heard this i'd never forgot it because to me it spoke to
00:40:10.900
my heart but he said one of if he were to ever become president one of his first orders of business
00:40:16.180
would to call into the oval office the chief editors of all the top journals and tell them clean up your
00:40:22.740
act or i'm going after you with rico uh uh statute as a racketeering operation which is interesting
00:40:28.500
because the name of the chapter there's a chapter in my book called the editorial mafia and so when
00:40:34.260
i heard that bobby kennedy was going to bring these guys in the oval office and threaten them with rico
00:40:38.740
uh uh you know statute i was like oh he knows what he's doing he knows exactly what the problem is and
00:40:44.740
what to do about it yeah so but as far as reform you know going back to maybe this this this current
00:40:50.740
issue that you kind of invited me to talk about right which is which is this uh just unprecedented
00:40:55.940
excess mortality that we're observing not only in this country right i don't know if you follow but
00:41:01.060
the uk there's a couple of brave politicians they're trying to bring this uh issue to the
00:41:05.060
forefront uh australia canada a lot of the uh advanced health economies of the world are seeing really
00:41:11.460
large and unexplained excess mortalities even as covet has waned in severity um but in order to address
00:41:18.580
this i mean first of all this is the clearest indictment of our public health agencies which is
00:41:27.140
just their inaction the knowledge that this is occurring and they're not doing anything tells
00:41:31.700
you that they have failed it is the most clear evidence that they have failed and are failing
00:41:36.340
um if they were functioning this would be a major public health initiative there would be lots of
00:41:41.060
funding you'd have tons of studies looking at um causes and these studies are easy by the way because
00:41:46.420
they could do one thing that no one has done in advanced health economies which is give us open
00:41:51.380
source rigorous data of vaccination status and outcomes we want to know who's unvaccinated who's
00:41:56.740
vaccinated and how they're doing and they try to avoid doing that so that there are solutions to doing
00:42:02.340
it but i think you need people free of conflicts i think we need we need like industry to get involved
00:42:09.140
not just the academics and the agency folks um but like for instance get someone whose conflicts of
00:42:14.180
interest would promote study like this like the insurance industry they are looking into a
00:42:19.780
shellacking they are getting hammered look at how much they're paying out and you can see it in some
00:42:24.500
of the industry trade magazines they literally have never paid out this much money and and keep in mind
00:42:29.780
you pay out a policy on a 32 year old how much money have you lost compared to when you pay one out
00:42:36.420
exactly 58 and so so 70 and there there is a collaborative of insurance guys that i've worked
00:42:42.500
with and by the way i was on a call a year and a half ago i was invited to present data to a group
00:42:48.180
from a whole bunch of different life insurance companies almost all of them had their cameras off
00:42:53.380
and almost none said anything i would say about 30 people on the call only two people actually had
00:42:58.340
their cameras off and were asking detailed questions but they showed up and i found out from the guys who
00:43:03.700
organized it that many of them were like under the ceo it wasn't the ceo showing up but you know they
00:43:08.260
sent someone there to listen and so they're well aware of this and if you think about the insurance
00:43:13.060
industry right how much they've done to protect the health of the country again in their interest but
00:43:17.620
like automobile safety with seat belts fire codes electrical codes nautical building right all of those
00:43:23.860
things obviously it protects their business but it also protects our health and i would just like to see
00:43:29.940
maybe someone who's interested in finding out the answer why everyone's dying i mean i think that
00:43:36.100
industry wants to know that answer more than any other and they have the resources to do it but i think
00:43:41.620
government and other medical experts need to help and they need to be of a diverse spectrum and uh
00:43:47.300
transparent such a wise point so i just want to end by um hearing what you're seeing in your
00:43:55.380
clinical practice now with the vaccine injured and i think it's important that people hear it
00:44:01.140
because everybody knows somebody i know a couple of people um but it's sort of hard to know like
00:44:06.420
what are we looking at what are you seeing so how this is how i divide this is just kind of my
00:44:10.980
perception of vaccine injury is that when i use the term vaccine injury i'm usually referring to what
00:44:15.940
i call a single organ problem like pericarditis myocarditis stroke uh something like that an autoimmune
00:44:23.060
disease what i specialize in in my practice is i treat patients with what we call long covid long
00:44:29.540
vax it's the same disease just different triggers right one is triggered by covid the other one is
00:44:34.020
triggered by the spike protein from the vaccine much more common is long vax the only real differences
00:44:38.980
between the two conditions is that the vaccinated are on average sicker and more disabled than the long
00:44:45.140
covids with some pretty prominent exceptions to that um but the point i want to kind of give you uh
00:44:51.700
tucker is that the disease although it has a new name long covet it's not a new disease it's been
00:44:55.700
around for decades and it's traditionally been called myalgic encephalitis slash chronic fatigue
00:45:01.860
syndrome which me cfs you've heard of cfs yeah of course yeah that's effectively what long
00:45:06.900
covet and long vax is um because the hallmarks of that disease is a new inexorable fatigue what's
00:45:13.700
called post-exertional malaise which means when they try to do even simple activities yes they pay for
00:45:19.300
it in terms of fatigue they're innervated yeah they i mean they're like a classic example i give
00:45:23.780
one of my patients like he'd go to his mailbox to get the mail from the curb come back into his house
00:45:28.420
and he'd be in bed for two hours like that's classic post-exertional malaise and then the third is what
00:45:32.900
we call brain fog which is some amount of cognitive limitation but that triad that is me cfs and so and
00:45:40.580
that's always been associated with infections things like epstein-barr virus but the difference now
00:45:45.300
is the rate at which it occurs with coronavirus and this spike protein and this vaccine is so high
00:45:53.700
that like i said just me and my partner alone manage over 1200 patients and they're mostly disabled and
00:45:59.140
you're can because there was a some debate about whether chronic fatigue syndrome had psychiatric
00:46:04.420
origins or physical origins yeah i think that's always been a debate and that's always been a problem
00:46:09.140
for that disease that's why there's very little to show for it in terms of great studies about the only
00:46:14.180
thing they know about how to approach that disease is you tell patients to pace themselves to stay under
00:46:18.500
that exertional limit that makes them sicker and pacing is a good part of what we do but um we've
00:46:23.300
learned lots of different therapies but what makes our um kind of plight easier is that we're learning so
00:46:30.820
much about the pathophysiology of the spike protein and what it does to the body and all of the disturbances
00:46:36.500
that it causes that because we know it's the spike causing it here so i don't have to worry that it's
00:46:40.900
some psychiatric illness or depression or something in the environment like i know what it is it's the
00:46:44.900
spike protein i'm learning a lot about the spike protein what it does to the body and then we we
00:46:49.700
choose um medicines whose pharmacologic mechanism of action best counteract those disturbances in
00:46:56.420
pathophysiology and we've we have a lot of success but i will tell you nothing works in everybody um
00:47:03.140
it's really a trial and error system um we use our our most frequently effective medicines first and
00:47:08.900
then i have i have second third fourth fifth length and i have things where like i'm trialing new
00:47:13.780
things you have to do it the patients are suffering immeasurably and um and so they're they're tired
00:47:19.700
and tired out of foggy um can't do very much many of them are housebound so some start bedbound some are
00:47:26.900
housebound some can go out for short excursions um but most of them are nowhere near living the life
00:47:34.900
they used to so what happens to their relationships you know that's a good question i haven't seen i
00:47:40.820
to be honest that's a cool question because i've thought about that myself i've seen some decimated
00:47:46.900
people and by and large i can't take one example their partners have stayed with them their partners
00:47:51.940
have supported them i've seen a lot of love and devotion it at least in my patient population that um
00:47:58.980
i kind of wonder when that's going to be when some partner is going to say you're not who i married i'm
00:48:03.700
not happy and and leave them in the illness which is what you're not supposed to do in you know in
00:48:08.260
the marriage but but i haven't seen that very much but clearly their their relationships are affected
00:48:14.500
the partner also suffers the partner can't go out to dinner with them they can't go see a ball game
00:48:18.420
they can't go on the trips they used to go on and and so they're all leading different lives but i've
00:48:22.980
seen a lot of partner support and commitment i mean if you knew that your life had been completely
00:48:30.020
destroyed you couldn't work you couldn't even go out to dinner because you were forced to take a
00:48:34.180
vaccine and no one ever apologized or you know stood up to help you how angry would you be the amount of
00:48:42.420
anger um is it's incalculable i the the patients that i see they are equal parts angry i think wrongly
00:48:53.940
they feel ashamed because they were duped you know they did something many of them were actually
00:48:58.900
kind of reluctant because that those are the worst they really didn't want to they pushed back a little
00:49:03.620
tried not to and then finally succumb because their livelihood was on the on the line and then they
00:49:09.140
got injured and those are the ones who kicked them so there's a lot of regret shame anger and then some
00:49:15.220
of them there's also a lot of you know they're injured they're sick but they're active in vaccine
00:49:20.340
injury groups they try to share their experiences with things that have helped them they advocate
00:49:24.580
they reach out to their politicians trying to bring this more to to common knowledge and and so um but
00:49:31.060
they have no power there's nothing they can do right they can't sue pfizer nope not yet so i know someone
00:49:38.420
i have a close friend who was forced to take the vaccine and has been sick ever since two and a half years
00:49:44.260
all the time covid repeatedly and all kinds of every flu is that i mean i'm assuming that that's part
00:49:50.660
of what can happen my patients it's not so much the immunosuppression it's it's really that cfs
00:49:56.020
component that i see the chronic daily symptoms so it's the triad that i talked about which is
00:50:01.220
fatigue post-exertion malaise brain fog and then next on the list is neuropathies so sensory neuropathy
00:50:06.980
is just such high rates so burning tingling pins and needles and odd distributions odd times
00:50:14.020
a day different severities many people are burning or numb or they feel pain what is that that's it's
00:50:20.420
what's called a small fiber neuropathy so it's the tiny nerve endings that infiltrate our skin
00:50:25.540
and they're all they got inflamed or damaged i think some of it's probably autoimmune some of it's
00:50:30.820
probably from micro circulatory problems something called micro clotting i don't want to get too
00:50:35.780
sciencey if you don't want me to uh tucker but uh it's small fiber neuropathy is very high rates
00:50:41.380
and then equally incident is something called dysautonomia or pots where uh resting heart
00:50:47.780
rates are much are like 110 where like you have these fit people who are exercising that they
00:50:52.580
enjoy their resting heart rate of a 60 right when those are so fit when we have those now they're
00:50:57.220
sitting in a chair that's 95 100 they go walk to the bathroom it's 140 or they get up suddenly their
00:51:03.060
blood pressure drops and it's basically the small nerve fibers that control um constriction of blood vessels
00:51:09.140
and the control our heart rates are all off and so when you try to do some activity and your blood
00:51:15.220
pressure is not appropriate for the activity the heart rate's not appropriate activity good luck doing
00:51:19.220
that activity and that's another thing that drives a stroke risk um not well yeah if it's severe enough
00:51:26.580
it could be but uh no generally the strokes not what causes that but a lot of dysfunction a lot of fatigue
00:51:32.900
um and then a whole bunch of other stuff i have skin manifestations different gi things is the other
00:51:40.500
thing remember a lot of our gi system is autonomic as well right peristalsis gastric emptying you don't
00:51:46.100
think about that that's all supposed to be under the control of the body and now the small fibers aren't
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telling you to propel the the food down your intestine or to empty the stomach and so many of
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them have lots of food intolerances it ramps up allergies i see patients who could tolerate every
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food and everything then they after the vaccine suddenly complain of immense amount of allergies to
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things um i could go an hour with what i see it's so broad so vast um it it's it's really it's an immensely
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complex disease um i will say most of the time it's satisfying the tree because i i would say the vast
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majority if not all of our patients get better to some extent um the problem is it's the minority
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that we get to full get back to baseline a distinct small minority the vast majority
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modest to large improvements and then i have a cohort which i really even after a year now i'm
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having difficulty helping appreciably i mean at what point does this end um
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um well if you look back at papers on me cfs uh they say that in their lifetime only five percent
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ever get back to baseline and so for most with the chronic form that i see um it's accepting a new life
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and set level of functioning for people who are watching this and want to learn more about what you're
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doing and more information on this i feel like they might fall into these categories where would
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they go so first is uh my organization so flcc.net we have protocols so we have uh sort of recommendations
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of things that we find are helpful for treating vaccine long covet or long vax we also have it on
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treatment of various other infectious illnesses we even have a monograph on re perfect drug for
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cancer that my partner just worked on over this past year and so we have a lot of unbiased
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un-conflicted medical information that's come out of deep study or clinical experience and
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i think that's a first step and then obviously i have a private practice i couldn't treat the country
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but uh we we certainly see patients in all 50 states and um we do what we can and that's drpierre
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cory.com but that's really what we focus on is is these two diseases it would take me 10 years
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uh and even in 10 years i don't think i'd have all the answers but but we're learning every day and
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we're getting better at what we do every day dr pierre cory thank you very much thanks tucker