The Tucker Carlson Show - January 16, 2026


Eva Vlaardingerbroek Speaks Out After Being Banned From the UK


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

170.41925

Word Count

5,432

Sentence Count

395

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Dutch journalist Eva Blanchard joins Jemele to discuss her ban from traveling to the UK, and why she thinks it's a good thing she's not allowed to travel there. Plus, a new Amazon film based on the life of First Lady Melania Trump.


Transcript

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00:00:41.680 Eva, this is, I was reading this story this morning and I was thinking, I can't believe they did this to a Dutch journalist.
00:00:46.760 Then I saw that name.
00:00:47.720 I was like, wait, I know her.
00:00:48.700 I can't believe this happened.
00:00:49.640 So I just want, look, I, I just want to read you back, back to you, the letter that you received from the British government to confirm that you actually received this.
00:00:59.200 It's to you.
00:01:00.140 And it says your UK visa basically has been canceled.
00:01:04.100 This means you cannot travel to the UK without a visa.
00:01:07.260 This is because I'm quoting.
00:01:08.760 This is because your presence in the UK is not considered to be productive to the public good.
00:01:14.600 You cannot appeal this decision.
00:01:16.620 Did you actually receive that letter?
00:01:20.820 I did.
00:01:21.940 And relatively out of the blue too.
00:01:23.840 I mean, I was, I was going through my emails yesterday and I saw this subject line saying that they changed something to my ETA application.
00:01:32.540 I was like, what is this?
00:01:34.700 I didn't apply for an ETA.
00:01:36.820 I'm not, you know, planning on traveling to the UK right now.
00:01:40.200 So I just opened it and I saw this very, I mean, you have the email.
00:01:44.120 It's a very short, simple email.
00:01:46.560 And it just said, we revoked your ETA because we, we consider you not conducive to the public good and you have no right to appeal.
00:01:54.780 Bye.
00:01:55.200 That was it.
00:01:56.180 And, and so I was like, what, you know, what, what is this?
00:02:01.200 And then, you know, I started thinking like, what could this be?
00:02:04.100 Why are they sending this to me now?
00:02:05.400 And then I realized that I criticized Keira Starmer a couple of days earlier on X.
00:02:09.700 Well, so I'm going to read you the quote.
00:02:11.960 I think I have it, uh, in front.
00:02:15.100 You, you described Starmer, who's the prime minister of the country, the elected official, um, as an evil, despicable man for allowing the ongoing rape and killing of British girls by a migrant rape gang.
00:02:28.680 So, um.
00:02:29.620 Guilty as charged.
00:02:30.960 You're making a political point, an entirely defensible political point.
00:02:33.920 And you believe that because you said that, you are now banned from the country.
00:02:40.680 I really don't see any other reason as to why they otherwise would have done this right now.
00:02:45.380 As I said, I, you know, I applied for this electronic travel authorization back in September, uh, because I went and spoke at the, um, Unite the Kingdom rally organized by Tommy Robinson.
00:02:55.940 And I, I spoke about re-migration and the need for that.
00:02:58.660 Like, and, you know, now because of Brexit, Europeans have to apply for an ETA as when we go to America, we have to apply for an ESTA, right?
00:03:07.340 And this was approved back in September within minutes.
00:03:11.260 Like, I just got it.
00:03:12.440 No problems, no questions asked.
00:03:14.060 And now, out of the blue, as I said, I received that email saying they revoked it.
00:03:19.660 And I'm not, you know, I'm not traveling to the United Kingdom anytime soon.
00:03:22.940 I didn't book any tickets, you know, to fly there.
00:03:25.860 So, the only thing that I could think about was that I said what I said about Keir Starmer.
00:03:31.360 I still stand by it, by the way.
00:03:32.560 Uh, just three days before they informed me of that decision.
00:03:36.320 So, I mean, it's really hard not to connect the dots there.
00:03:38.840 And it's also very much in line with his track record.
00:03:42.500 And I suppose it proves my point, you know, that the UK is on a path to become a very unfree country where dissident voices are criticized.
00:03:52.060 People are thrown in jail.
00:03:54.020 Um, and obviously, I'm not a citizen of the United Kingdom, so they can't do that to me.
00:03:58.180 But this is something that they can do, apparently.
00:04:00.840 The continent is descending into darkness, uh, once again, clearly.
00:04:06.640 What, what do you think big picture this tells us about what's happening in Europe, in the UK specifically?
00:04:15.480 I mean, in the UK, this, this is the definition of a totalitarian state, right?
00:04:21.600 This is the definition of a dictatorship in a sense that you are apparently not allowed to criticize its supreme leader
00:04:28.400 without having your freedoms limited.
00:04:31.100 And this is quite a severe limitation of my freedom in the sense that I was given no due process.
00:04:36.700 I was not given a warning.
00:04:38.160 I have no right to appeal, that's what it stated in the email, uh, for the crime, quote-unquote, of giving my opinion.
00:04:46.620 And so that, that is bad, you know, that is not, that's not a normal way, uh, for things to happen in so-called free societies.
00:04:55.760 So, you know, no matter what you think my opinions are, if they're right, wrong, radical, not radical,
00:05:04.200 should it be a ground for a government to say to a woman with no criminal record whatsoever,
00:05:10.620 who wants to visit a country for, you know, just a couple of days, once a year maybe, tops,
00:05:17.060 to say, no, you're not allowed, but we are going to allow thousands of illegal immigrants to cross the channel every day
00:05:26.200 and enter the UK, and nobody's asking them anything, you know, they're not even, they're not asking their passports,
00:05:31.960 so let alone whether they're asking if they're conducive to the public good.
00:05:35.600 I mean, that is, that is an incredibly dystopian thing to read, since when is being conducive to the public good,
00:05:43.620 a requirement to enter a country, and also who decides that, and why do I have no right to appeal?
00:05:50.420 You know, those are serious things in countries that claim to uphold the rule of law, that claim to be democracies.
00:05:58.560 And I guess we already knew, you know, that those were, let's say, illusions in our countries at this point,
00:06:08.280 but to have it, you know, happen to you in such a personal manner, like, yeah, I now realize that I cannot go and visit many of my friends.
00:06:18.060 I can't go to the next rally, which is planned for May.
00:06:21.600 I cannot set foot in a country that I otherwise love, you know, I don't love the establishment, but I love the people,
00:06:27.820 and I would have loved to go there again.
00:06:30.680 And, of course, the UK arrests far more people every year for criticizing the British government
00:06:36.000 than Putin has arrested for criticizing him, or the Saudis have arrested for criticizing MBS.
00:06:43.140 I mean, it's not just repressive, it's far more repressive than countries we are told are authoritarian or totalitarian.
00:06:50.860 I mean, it's worse.
00:06:53.120 Absolutely, I totally agree.
00:06:54.340 And the same thing is happening on the continent in Europe, by the way.
00:06:57.820 I mean, good that you bring up Russia, because I don't know, I think not many people are aware of this,
00:07:03.040 but something incredible happened here just a month ago, where the European Union put out sanctions,
00:07:11.280 like restrictive measures, and placed them on European citizens, who they claim, and I quote,
00:07:18.060 were distributing or manipulating false information.
00:07:23.280 So they were saying that these citizens were destabilizing Ukraine on behalf of the Russian government,
00:07:32.520 that's at least their claim, by manipulating information in the European Union.
00:07:37.340 But as far as I know, Ukraine is not a member of the European Union.
00:07:42.520 So why would they feel the need to protect, you know, the stability of that nation?
00:07:48.080 And second of all, those people just received, again, just like me, they just received that decision by the European Union.
00:07:56.420 And what happened to them is far worse than what happened to me, because they froze their assets.
00:08:01.340 And they said, you are not allowed to travel.
00:08:03.560 And this was a decision made by the European Council.
00:08:07.640 No due process, no court order, no fair trial, nothing.
00:08:12.540 So the European Union is doing that to its own citizens, under the pretext of, you know, sanctioning Russia.
00:08:20.600 But these are individuals.
00:08:22.180 These are people whose lives have been destroyed.
00:08:24.920 And it's not getting any media attention whatsoever.
00:08:28.180 But this happened just a month ago.
00:08:29.760 So, you know, there is clearly an increasing totalitarian wind blowing through this continent.
00:08:38.320 And, well, apart from this travel ban, I've also personally fallen victim to it just last year, receiving a notification from Apple saying that my phone is under mercenary spyware attack.
00:08:50.940 So, you know, you see, there is a trend here.
00:08:53.680 Like, we have governments, we don't know exactly which one, or the EU, freezing assets of citizens, looking at me and you probably as we speak through this phone right now.
00:09:05.200 Like, again, that is not what is supposed to happen in democratic societies, especially not when those people doing it are the ones who constantly trumpet that.
00:09:15.460 So it's pretty bad over here.
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00:11:56.880 Well, I mean, that's kind of the question.
00:12:00.000 Where is this going?
00:12:01.260 And we're in the very infancy of AI supercomputing the ability of governments to actually control
00:12:10.040 their populations at the level of the individual in a way that no government has ever been capable
00:12:15.860 of doing.
00:12:16.420 And so if you marry bad intent to increase capacity for repression, you could wind up
00:12:25.000 with an open-air prison camp the size of a continent very quickly.
00:12:30.180 Yeah.
00:12:31.060 Well, that is exactly what is happening now to just a few individuals.
00:12:34.820 But we don't know how fast this will happen to the entire continent.
00:12:39.240 Maybe you guys have heard of the chat control proposal, right, that the EU wanted to enforce,
00:12:44.720 which got shut down.
00:12:46.200 But now they're trying it through another backdoor again.
00:12:49.900 They want to basically be able to read all of our messages under the guise of preventing,
00:12:55.480 you know, child pornography, et cetera, from being spread.
00:12:58.400 So they want to use.
00:12:59.780 Yeah.
00:13:00.060 I mean, it's funny.
00:13:01.420 They're really worried about Epstein's friends are really worried about child pornography.
00:13:06.000 Okay.
00:13:07.140 Right.
00:13:07.660 Right.
00:13:07.960 So, but AI is going to be used to do that.
00:13:10.100 They are going to be scanning our messages to see if any of that material is being spread,
00:13:15.380 or at least that's what they say, you know.
00:13:17.880 But it means that these unelected bureaucrats are reading all of your messages, essentially,
00:13:24.420 have access to all of your messages.
00:13:26.260 And I don't know when people are going to wake up to all of these pretexts, right,
00:13:30.740 that are always being given.
00:13:31.940 Just like Keir Starmer last week said that he wanted to ban X because of women's safety
00:13:38.540 concerns.
00:13:39.540 Because Croc was making those bikini edits.
00:13:42.380 Yeah, women's safety.
00:13:43.480 But I mean, do we have to talk to the man about the Rotterdam rapes and stuff?
00:13:46.860 You know, like, it's honestly, it's laughable, but it has real life consequences for real life
00:13:52.920 people.
00:13:53.260 And I think what you said about Europe turning into an open air prison is just right.
00:13:59.060 That's exactly what is happening.
00:14:01.060 But how do you escape that?
00:14:02.660 That's the question that we all have.
00:14:04.580 How do you unelect people that you've never elected in the first place?
00:14:09.440 You know, how do you get your rights back when it's just presented to you that someone
00:14:14.120 has taken them away from you and they've granted themselves that power?
00:14:18.220 Because that is exactly what happens here.
00:14:20.520 And people feel defenseless in the face of it.
00:14:23.580 So what are the rules for speech in Europe, if we could get specific about this?
00:14:28.420 Because I think it helps to understand why it's happening, who's doing it, if we understand
00:14:32.180 what you're not allowed to say.
00:14:34.140 So what are you not allowed to say in Europe right now?
00:14:38.280 Well, essentially, you are not allowed really to criticize the establishment.
00:14:43.720 You are not, especially not allowed to talk about the replacement migration going on
00:14:48.120 in Europe, if you say, look, we are soon, white people, the native people of Europe are
00:14:54.320 soon becoming a minority in their own homelands, which is factually true, like before the end
00:15:01.520 of the century, that's the case in most European countries, even before the end of the first
00:15:06.040 half of the century, actually, if you say that, they're going to stop you with a hate speech
00:15:10.920 crime.
00:15:11.760 They're going to say that that is hateful language, inflicting racial hatred, etc.
00:15:18.680 So that seems to be the common denominator, especially talking about immigration and the
00:15:25.740 effects of that, linking it to crime, which is obvious.
00:15:29.680 You know, you only need your two eyes to know that that is the case.
00:15:32.900 That's something that really seems to bother them.
00:15:36.200 So who is them?
00:15:37.100 I mean, so clearly there is a very well organized, very well funded effort to eliminate the white
00:15:43.900 population of Europe.
00:15:44.760 I mean, because it is being eliminated and you're not allowed to notice it.
00:15:47.780 You'll be punished by police and courts you pay for if you notice what's happening to your
00:15:52.380 ancestors' homeland.
00:15:53.220 So that's all just true.
00:15:56.160 That's right.
00:15:56.880 Like, who is pushing this?
00:16:00.040 It's the question of all questions, right?
00:16:04.140 But it seems that all of these leaders that we have, be it Keir Starmer, be it Ursula von
00:16:09.760 der Leyen, be it Merz in Germany, be it Macron, they all follow the same playbook.
00:16:16.540 They all say the same things, literally post the same things, you know, in their communications
00:16:21.460 to the outside world.
00:16:22.660 They might focus on slightly different subjects here and there, but the agenda is the same
00:16:28.120 everywhere.
00:16:28.620 And it's the erosion essentially of our borders, of our nation states, of our heritage.
00:16:33.240 I don't have to tell you or your audience that.
00:16:35.280 We all know it.
00:16:36.560 The question is, who's behind it?
00:16:39.080 Honestly, you know, I don't know.
00:16:41.240 I can't answer that question.
00:16:42.860 But what I can tell you is that the people who are rolling out these agendas are doing
00:16:47.900 it out in the open, in front of our faces, and they keep getting re-elected.
00:16:53.420 So I, you know, I have made it my mission, at least, to talk about those people and target
00:16:58.760 them specifically because they are the ones that are in front of us, you know, rolling
00:17:03.260 this out over and over and over again.
00:17:05.760 But it's very difficult to say.
00:17:07.740 So I don't know that much about Mertz.
00:17:12.780 I don't know Macron.
00:17:15.480 His reputation is smart, clever, and cunning, skilled politically.
00:17:21.720 But I know a fair amount about Keir Starmer, and you will never convince me, at gunpoint
00:17:27.800 even, that Keir Starmer is making independent decisions about the future of Britain.
00:17:31.880 Just, you can't convince me of that.
00:17:33.380 He's not adequate as a leader of a nation.
00:17:37.140 He just doesn't have the basic qualities.
00:17:39.480 He is taking orders.
00:17:40.760 That could not be clearer.
00:17:42.740 And I think it's clear to the British population.
00:17:44.880 But you don't know who's giving those orders.
00:17:48.600 No, I mean, I don't know who's giving those orders.
00:17:50.740 I think if we would know, you know, it would be easier to stop this from happening, right?
00:17:56.260 But that is, I think, part of the agenda is that we don't exactly quite know who's behind
00:18:01.060 this.
00:18:01.360 Of course, we're fighting a very bureaucratic system also in Europe.
00:18:05.400 There are, in the European Union, like, tons of high government officials whom we don't
00:18:12.960 even know by name, yet have billions and billions of euros at their disposal to roll
00:18:19.800 out an agenda that goes against our interests, that literally wants to replace us.
00:18:24.960 It's crumbling our economy and is essentially just destroying this continent.
00:18:31.180 So, I mean, I've heard people say before that this is all part of fifth generation warfare,
00:18:36.380 that it's part of the game, that you don't know exactly who your enemy is.
00:18:40.100 And I think they want to keep it that way.
00:18:42.200 But once again, you know, it doesn't stop us from saying these people that we do see on
00:18:48.340 television every day are bad.
00:18:50.940 They're evil.
00:18:51.620 Yes, that's correct.
00:18:52.200 And we need them out of office because that gives people at least, you know, some sort of
00:18:57.200 action that they can take, even though already that is difficult.
00:19:00.880 And that's something that I hate to say, but in Europe, the majority still of your average
00:19:06.920 Dutchman, your average Frenchman is not even aware of that.
00:19:11.280 So we have a lot of work to do in that respect.
00:19:14.700 I think you make a really wise point.
00:19:17.000 It doesn't matter whether they're the prison guard or the warden, they're still participating
00:19:22.040 in an indefensible system, hurting and killing people.
00:19:25.860 And that's evil.
00:19:27.140 So like, I guess that's all we really need to know.
00:19:29.280 But it is frustrating when you see a coordinated effort like the one underway to eliminate white
00:19:35.260 people.
00:19:36.160 It's the biggest thing that's happened in our lifetimes.
00:19:37.700 Very.
00:19:37.860 And especially if you can't speak about it.
00:19:40.480 Yeah.
00:19:40.840 It's the biggest thing that's happened in our lifetime.
00:19:42.340 And especially if you can't speak about it without running the risk of being thrown in
00:19:45.880 jail, might I add that to what I just told you, right?
00:19:50.100 As a, and let's say, in addition to the answers that I'm giving you here, is that we in Europe
00:19:55.060 run the risk of being thrown in jail when we talk about this too liberally.
00:19:59.560 I want the American audience to understand that there are certain things that we really
00:20:03.020 cannot say.
00:20:04.380 So, you know, that is very different.
00:20:06.780 There is no first amendment here.
00:20:08.920 And we definitely do not have a second amendment to support it.
00:20:12.640 So that makes our situation, you know, considerably different, especially for political commentators,
00:20:20.780 journalists.
00:20:21.480 Yes.
00:20:22.920 It is, it is really more challenging, let's say, especially when you have a family that
00:20:29.000 you want to protect as well.
00:20:30.620 It seems to me the final piece of the control grid would be digital currencies, because at
00:20:34.760 that point, of course, they can starve you to death if you get out of line.
00:20:38.660 Yes.
00:20:39.720 How long before that arrives?
00:20:41.280 Yes.
00:20:42.640 Not long.
00:20:43.740 The European Union is working on their digital euro, has been for a while, and I think they're
00:20:47.820 planning to roll it out this year, actually, or maybe beginning of 2027.
00:20:52.200 So once that hits, same story, of course, they say that it's all voluntary, that you
00:20:57.060 don't have to use it, but it's just a matter of time until they do.
00:21:00.620 You know, we see through the stories.
00:21:02.700 But yes, that is, of course, going to be the final instrument that they can use to control
00:21:09.300 the entire population.
00:21:10.580 But as I said, they're already freezing the bank accounts of people who they deem to be
00:21:15.720 benefiting Russia, right?
00:21:17.640 With giving their opinion, journalists who are writing about their opinions concerning the
00:21:23.320 conflict.
00:21:23.800 So they don't necessarily need CBDCs to do incredibly unlawful things and say that they
00:21:30.480 do it in order to protect stability and democracy.
00:21:33.860 For years, you've been told this is not happening and you're a bigot for thinking it is, but
00:21:39.180 it is happening.
00:21:39.920 Mass migration is reshaping the West completely.
00:21:43.200 It's not a conspiracy theory.
00:21:44.360 It's a fact.
00:21:45.280 Different people live here now.
00:21:47.780 You're not a racist for noticing that.
00:21:49.360 You're just using your senses.
00:21:51.040 Again, it's not a theory.
00:21:51.920 It's the biggest fact of this or any generation in a thousand years.
00:21:57.460 The replacement is real.
00:21:59.080 European governments aren't just tolerating mass migration.
00:22:01.760 They're encouraging it.
00:22:03.380 They're funding it.
00:22:04.600 They hate their populations and they want new populations.
00:22:08.180 We've got a new documentary on this called Replacing Europe, Following the World's Deadliest
00:22:12.500 Migration Route.
00:22:13.880 Our filmmakers follow what nobody wants you to see.
00:22:15.780 They spoke directly with migrants, locals, officials who admit what the public is never told.
00:22:20.640 It's not ideological.
00:22:22.920 It's reality.
00:22:24.740 This is happening.
00:22:25.940 It's destroying the West and our cameras caught it.
00:22:29.820 Replacing Europe.
00:22:31.860 That's the doc only on TCN now.
00:22:35.680 You live there, so you have a better sense than I do.
00:22:38.780 But how far from some kind of revolution would you say European populations are?
00:22:44.560 Are people getting, do they understand what's happening?
00:22:47.160 Do they care?
00:22:48.340 Is there any meaningful pushback?
00:22:50.680 On a mass scale.
00:22:53.100 You know, I think we need to have all eyes on Germany.
00:22:56.560 I think what is going to happen there with the elections, whether AFD is going to end up
00:23:02.220 becoming the biggest party, that is going to make a huge difference in terms of our future.
00:23:07.900 When we're talking revolution or uproar, you know, I can't even really talk about revolution because before I know it, you would have a police officer standing in front of your door saying that you are inciting that.
00:23:19.060 So, you know, I'm not, for the record.
00:23:22.880 I really don't know whether that is, whether we're there yet.
00:23:27.860 I think that that is part of the problem is that there are still large, large parts of the population in Europe that is just not aware, especially if they're not on X, if they're not following alternative media.
00:23:41.960 You know, I don't mean to say that Fox News is a very truth-telling right-wing news channel, but we don't even have anything like that.
00:23:51.680 You know, you're not even close to that in, let's say, the Netherlands where I'm from.
00:23:55.560 The mainstream media is just left-wing.
00:23:59.540 So if that is what you're consuming all day, every day, you know, you don't see a problem in this.
00:24:05.340 You don't see that people are being thrown in jail in the UK for expressing their opinions.
00:24:09.860 Like, those types of news stories just don't reach a large part of the population.
00:24:15.240 So I don't know if we're close to that yet.
00:24:18.520 I do think that there is a big sentiment that is growing that this cannot go on the way that it has.
00:24:26.700 Like, the European Union especially has taken too much power, has granted itself too much power.
00:24:33.160 And I do feel that they're going to be cracks, let's say, in that foundation in the next couple of years.
00:24:40.460 But who knows, Tucker?
00:24:41.460 I don't know if it's going to be fast enough, you know?
00:24:43.400 Like, when we're looking at our demographic change, at a certain point, when you become totally outnumbered, you become minorities.
00:24:49.740 I don't want to say it's over because it's never over.
00:24:52.900 But it's going to be very difficult for us to reverse that.
00:24:57.740 Yeah, I believe that.
00:25:00.020 Keep in mind, though, that the UK voted to leave the European Union 10 years ago in 2016, Brexit.
00:25:08.980 And it's more oppressive than it's ever been.
00:25:11.640 And it does seem more in line with, more in coordination with the EU than it was 10 years ago.
00:25:19.220 So you sort of wonder, like, maybe there are deeper forces at work here than just the horrible anti-human bureaucracy in Brussels.
00:25:30.380 Yeah, exactly.
00:25:31.600 I think that that is a really good argument to say that there is a more sinister global agenda going on here.
00:25:39.000 Same thing in my country, back in the Netherlands.
00:25:43.220 We keep on electing people that, you know, destroy our country.
00:25:48.900 And I really don't know who votes for them.
00:25:51.780 I honestly wonder, you know, when you talk to people on the streets.
00:25:56.900 They're not saying that they want those things.
00:25:59.580 They're not saying that they want replacement migration.
00:26:03.980 They're not saying that they want a digital euro.
00:26:06.840 Nobody's saying those things yet.
00:26:08.460 They're constantly being pushed down our throats, all of those agenda points.
00:26:12.840 So, yeah, I agree with you.
00:26:14.460 It's too much in sync everywhere to not see that pattern.
00:26:18.880 Of course.
00:26:19.780 And do you, in the United States, you're seeing everywhere signs of spiritual renewal, Christian religious revival.
00:26:27.240 Are you sensing that in Europe since you live there?
00:26:31.560 Not nearly as much as I would like to, no.
00:26:35.920 Europe is a highly, highly secularized continent, especially Northwestern Europe.
00:26:41.740 Also, for context, it was like when I started doing commentary for a more American audience, you know,
00:26:48.560 I noticed and involved myself more in American politics.
00:26:52.400 I really noticed how often people talk about their faith in God, how often he is mentioned,
00:26:58.600 and how often they speak about Jesus also in political discourse.
00:27:02.320 Now, you can have your opinions about that, whether it's always genuine or not, but he's mentioned.
00:27:07.620 Here, if you do that in Europe, you get ridiculed.
00:27:11.080 You get ridiculed.
00:27:11.940 People will look at you funny.
00:27:13.200 You know, I grew up in a country where if you said you were a Christian, people would immediately say,
00:27:18.820 how is that possible, though you have a university education, like, that's so stupid.
00:27:23.460 Like, how come that you believe in a fairy tale?
00:27:26.720 That is like the status quo in my country.
00:27:29.580 And I think that that also explains why we've gone down the deep end as far as we have.
00:27:35.500 Because people don't recognize even, you know,
00:27:41.040 they don't recognize the idea or the concept of good and evil.
00:27:44.440 So if you don't see that, if you don't believe that God exists,
00:27:49.240 if you don't believe that good exists, then you don't believe that evil exists.
00:27:53.380 And so you will just always write it off as incompetence at best.
00:27:58.520 Or you'll say, no, that's just a different viewpoint or everything is relative.
00:28:02.880 And that's exactly what has gotten us where we are today.
00:28:08.940 Yeah, I was about to ask, like, how's that worked out for the Netherlands?
00:28:12.100 Pretty well?
00:28:13.220 Pretty great?
00:28:14.440 Mocking God, like a good long-term strategy?
00:28:18.040 Exactly.
00:28:18.680 I mean, the country is on a great path, isn't it?
00:28:20.800 So, and indeed, really, really bad long-term strategy,
00:28:24.140 but also really, really bad short-term strategy.
00:28:26.340 Because people aren't happy.
00:28:28.460 You know, young people aren't fulfilled.
00:28:30.420 They don't know what to do with their lives.
00:28:32.420 They lack purpose.
00:28:33.960 They lack meaning.
00:28:34.960 You know, of course.
00:28:36.740 Of course you do.
00:28:37.780 So it's both bad in the long run and in the short run.
00:28:41.680 But it's very much the case.
00:28:44.400 I mean, I converted to Catholicism a couple of years ago, personally.
00:28:47.960 In the UK, by the way, where I now can't go.
00:28:51.680 Yeah.
00:28:52.720 Great.
00:28:53.160 But only 2.7%, for example, of the Dutch population is a practicing Catholic.
00:28:58.500 And in the Netherlands, it's half-half.
00:29:00.380 You have, like, 50% in name, at least, is Protestant.
00:29:03.540 50% is Catholic.
00:29:05.460 And only 2.7% is practicing.
00:29:07.800 That tells you, you know, the situation of my homeland.
00:29:12.220 So, my last question is about you.
00:29:15.800 You live in Europe.
00:29:17.020 You have a family in Europe.
00:29:18.820 You are European.
00:29:20.260 Can you stay?
00:29:21.440 Do you plan to stay?
00:29:24.180 I have to stay.
00:29:25.380 This is my home.
00:29:26.780 You know, I'm Dutch.
00:29:28.080 I'm married to an Italian, our young boy.
00:29:30.960 He's 13 months old now.
00:29:32.400 He's both, obviously.
00:29:34.200 This is my home.
00:29:35.500 You know, unless, you know, I don't want to spend my days in a prison cell because I will
00:29:41.360 be good to no one.
00:29:42.500 And I'm genuinely fearful that that is where we are heading, that that's what they will
00:29:47.400 do to people like me who voice the things that I think.
00:29:52.620 But as long as I have, you know, I will do everything in my power to avoid that from
00:29:58.080 happening because I really do still have hope.
00:30:00.420 You know, I really do think that we should all have hope, even though it looks bleak for
00:30:04.880 us, because if you lose the hope, you know, there's no point in fighting.
00:30:08.640 And that's the last thing that I want, because I think it's the first thing that our
00:30:12.560 establishment wants is for people here to become demoralized, to say things like, oh,
00:30:17.220 it's just over for Europe.
00:30:18.460 There's no future for us.
00:30:19.840 You know, if you're white, you should just go.
00:30:21.820 It's like, no, these are the these are the lands of our ancestors and they should be the
00:30:25.980 lands also of our children.
00:30:28.680 That that is if you know, that's that's worth fighting for, I would say.
00:30:33.180 Ava Valer-Dingerbrook, thank you and Godspeed.
00:30:37.220 Thank you, Tugger.
00:30:38.060 Thank you.
00:30:38.860 Thank you.
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