The Tucker Carlson Show - Everything You Should Know About Dan Crenshaw, How He Got Rich & Why He’s So in Love With Ukraine

00:00:00.000 I'm so grateful that you're here and that you're running against Dan Crenshaw.

00:00:03.840 I don't just because I don't think Dan Crenshaw is the worst person in the world or anything like that.

00:00:09.200 I feel sorry for Dan Crenshaw.

00:00:10.360 He's clearly a very troubled guy.

00:00:12.080 But it just does seem like the Republican Party shouldn't have to have a Dan Crenshaw in it.

00:00:17.740 And I think you're going to beat Dan Crenshaw.

00:00:20.480 And I just I just want to say thank you for doing that.

00:00:23.840 I'm honored to be here with you.

00:00:26.140 I really am.

00:00:27.120 So I've been jealous of you because my wife loves you so much.

00:00:31.620 Thanks.

00:00:31.960 So you you're in the Texas House.

00:00:56.220 You represent an area that overlaps with Crenshaw's district.

00:01:00.720 Obviously, you live there.

00:01:02.900 It's one of the most conservative districts in Texas.

00:01:06.220 I think it's.

00:01:06.620 Oh, yeah.

00:01:06.960 Montgomery County is absolutely the reddest of red counties.

00:01:09.940 Yes.

00:01:11.200 Tarrant County is bigger, but it's purple.

00:01:14.300 You're the biggest red county left in Texas.

00:01:16.820 And 100 percent of my district is inside congressional district, too.

00:01:20.180 So that would mean it's probably the biggest by population red county in the United States.

00:01:26.140 Absolutely.

00:01:27.240 Yeah, absolutely.

00:01:27.820 Once we lost Harris County to voter fraud.

00:01:30.400 Yes.

00:01:31.440 So how does that the biggest I'm just kind of guessing one of the biggest Republican counties

00:01:39.180 in the United States get Dan Crenshaw as a member of Congress?

00:01:42.920 Like, how does that happen?

00:01:44.020 So this is my mea culpa.

00:01:46.980 Is that how you say it?

00:01:47.940 Mea culpa.

00:01:48.460 Yeah.

00:01:49.180 You're admitting fault.

00:01:51.000 In 2018, when Dan Crenshaw came around, it was kind of a man crush for me.

00:01:56.480 Yeah.

00:01:56.980 Yeah.

00:01:57.320 Navy SEAL, war hero.

00:01:59.020 Yeah.

00:01:59.260 And I only knew one person.

00:02:01.120 There were like eight people in that race.

00:02:02.700 And there was only one person that was kind of emerging as the person that was going to win.

00:02:08.420 And he was kind of a rhino.

00:02:09.960 Yeah.

00:02:10.080 He was very weak.

00:02:11.720 And this guy comes along that says, look, I'm going to upend the apple cart.

00:02:16.320 I'm going to be a disruptive influence.

00:02:17.760 I am going to absolutely stand against the swamp, or as Ted Cruz called it, the Washington

00:02:21.980 cartel.

00:02:22.900 Yeah.

00:02:23.260 I'm going to stop it.

00:02:24.540 I'm going to fight it.

00:02:25.700 And so we got behind him and...

00:02:27.360 Damn, I would have voted for him, too, if he said that.

00:02:29.840 So I encouraged our local tea party to mail into the district to spend money into the

00:02:35.680 district and help them raise money to move mountains to get Dan Crenshaw elected.

00:02:40.260 So I feel a sense of responsibility for this major screw up because no sooner did he get

00:02:44.620 there than he became part of the problem.

00:02:46.900 Oh, he became a leader of the problem.

00:02:49.280 And I have to say, what year was that?

00:02:51.180 2018.

00:02:52.840 I'm sure he has official opinions on issues related to Texas or the United States, but

00:02:58.360 it's also very obvious to me, watching him carefully, that his real interests, all his

00:03:03.560 main interests are outside this country.

00:03:06.740 It doesn't seem like his agenda really has anything to do with America.

00:03:09.840 It's self-interest more than anything.

00:03:12.000 You see this revolving door on the part of people in Congress that line themselves up for

00:03:18.780 positions as soon as they leave Congress.

00:03:22.340 And so in order to get those kind of cushy jobs, you've got to do the lobby's bidding

00:03:26.880 up front early on.

00:03:28.400 He's a young guy, right?

00:03:29.660 Yeah.

00:03:30.220 And he's not the kind of person that's going to be there for 20 or 30 years.

00:03:34.940 He is the kind of person, though, that's going to line himself up for a cushy lobbying position

00:03:38.180 once he gets out.

00:03:39.700 And so you've got to go along.

00:03:40.940 You cannot ruffle feathers.

00:03:44.120 You can't go against leadership and you can't go against the lobby.

00:03:47.020 Well, not only does he not go against the lobby, I mean, his campaigns are the most, we pulled

00:03:52.040 the numbers, the most recent one that I saw suggested that his two biggest donors are giving

00:04:00.560 him money because of his foreign policy views.

00:04:02.940 One is a foreign lobby, I think is his biggest donor, one of them, literally a foreign lobby.

00:04:07.520 And the other is a hedge fund guy called Clifford Asnes, who's, you know, one of the sleazier

00:04:13.440 people in American business, there's that, but also is not paying Dan Crenshaw for anything

00:04:20.020 related to the United States.

00:04:20.980 This only has to do with influencing his vote on questions pertaining to other countries.

00:04:26.760 I mean, it's the opposite of America first, it's America last.

00:04:29.700 Yeah.

00:04:30.520 It's been my greatest heartburn is his total disregard for the border and what we've been

00:04:35.980 dealing with at the Texas border.

00:04:38.220 And yet his obsession with Ukraine's border.

00:04:42.180 Yes.

00:04:43.220 What is that?

00:04:44.740 I mean, I can't get my arms around it.

00:04:46.560 So three years ago, we went down to the border and pretty much all of the Texas delegation

00:04:53.780 was there.

00:04:55.160 Mike Johnson came from Alabama or from Louisiana.

00:04:58.060 Yeah.

00:04:58.260 The Southern state congressional members came down to be with us and we interviewed ICE agents.

00:05:06.200 We interviewed U.S. Border Patrol.

00:05:08.940 We interviewed U.S. Border Patrol Union.

00:05:11.840 We interviewed ranchers.

00:05:14.080 The only person from the congressional delegation that was not there, Dan Crenshaw.

00:05:19.440 It's like, why don't you want to know about what's going on down here?

00:05:23.340 This is not about working with the Mexican government.

00:05:28.200 This is about boots on the ground, right down on the border, understanding what we're

00:05:33.300 dealing with down here.

00:05:34.420 So you understand firsthand what's really, truly going on.

00:05:37.400 Because he has no clue what's really going on.

00:05:40.500 But you're in Houston.

00:05:42.160 I mean, it's not that far.

00:05:43.660 Houston has been completely, I have family there and so I go, completely transformed by

00:05:48.200 illegal immigration, completely.

00:05:49.440 It's unrecognizable and it hasn't gotten better.

00:05:51.180 It's gotten much worse.

00:05:52.360 That's my read as a visitor.

00:05:54.600 But how could he ignore that?

00:05:57.860 58% of the births in Texas are Medicaid births.

00:06:03.580 58%?

00:06:04.300 58%.

00:06:04.700 So think about this a second, Tucker.

00:06:06.540 20 years ago, Medicaid was 3% of the Texas budget.

00:06:10.160 Now it's the number two driver of the budget.

00:06:12.980 And it's due in large part to illegal immigration.

00:06:16.180 People come across the border, have their babies.

00:06:19.020 Sometimes they go back, sometimes they don't.

00:06:22.360 So that's like collapse.

00:06:24.600 I mean, that's not sustainable.

00:06:26.440 Not even in the short term is that sustainable.

00:06:28.320 Good-hearted people want to say, well, we should do this.

00:06:32.640 And to which I say, I think God would say, we should do it.

00:06:36.860 We should do it.

00:06:37.700 Yeah.

00:06:37.920 Not the government.

00:06:38.620 Exactly.

00:06:39.060 We should do it.

00:06:39.660 The church.

00:06:39.860 You care so much, use your own money.

00:06:41.160 The church should do it.

00:06:41.920 We used to go down to the Mexican border.

00:06:45.940 I mean, to the border towns in Northern Mexico and build churches.

00:06:49.500 We would build schools.

00:06:51.320 We would build homes.

00:06:52.820 We'd go down there and do medical missions work.

00:06:55.300 We can't go down there anymore because Mexico, for all intents and purposes, is a failed state.

00:07:00.240 I mean, it really, truly is.

00:07:01.340 It's a failed state.

00:07:02.780 And so you can't go down there anymore.

00:07:04.500 And so people say, well, we can't go down there anymore.

00:07:06.480 Therefore, the United States government needs to bail this all out.

00:07:09.060 No.

00:07:11.220 We're destroying our children and grandchildren's ability to have any kind of future whatsoever.

00:07:16.760 We're drilling holes in the bottom of the lifeboat.

00:07:20.560 Well, I mean, Crenshaw doesn't know this.

00:07:23.700 I mean, his constituents, I know, are upset about it because I know a lot of them.

00:07:27.720 Tucker, he came to a town hall meeting three years ago when the Senate bipartisan, which

00:07:35.860 anytime you hear a Senate bipartisan border bill, run, run fast, right?

00:07:44.580 Democrats are not looking for any kind of solution on the border.

00:07:47.380 Democrats are not looking to close the border.

00:07:49.080 They created this.

00:07:50.120 They completely created this.

00:07:52.080 And so they have this whack-a-doodle bill that allows 5,000 people into the country

00:07:57.260 a day, 1.8 million a year.

00:08:02.060 And if you look at the bones of the bill, yes, the bones of the bill say it did call for more

00:08:08.120 ICE agents, but it wasn't to close the border, Tucker.

00:08:11.560 It was to process people coming in to the country.

00:08:14.600 So all it did was it just streamlined their ability to come in to the country and be lost

00:08:21.240 into the system.

00:08:22.420 Okay, show up for your court date in a year and a half, two years, which they don't show

00:08:26.600 up for.

00:08:27.240 They're gone.

00:08:28.180 They're lost into the fabric of the nation.

00:08:31.060 And, you know, they're a drain on our schools.

00:08:33.780 They're a drain on our infrastructure.

00:08:35.620 They're a drain, really huge drain on our criminal justice system in Texas and across

00:08:41.340 the United States.

00:08:42.460 It's killing us.

00:08:43.320 Well, they also make it impossible to have a cohesive country.

00:08:46.920 I mean, if a huge percentage of the population just got here, then what is it to be American?

00:08:50.800 No one is pausing to ask that question.

00:08:52.660 And when there is a financial downturn or a national disaster or we're tested as a nation,

00:08:57.520 how do we hold together?

00:08:58.840 Yeah.

00:08:59.200 20 years ago, a friend of mine that grew up in Toronto said, the great thing about America

00:09:04.400 is that you're a melting pot where Canada is more like a quilt and we're tearing apart

00:09:09.180 it at the seams.

00:09:10.280 Yes.

00:09:10.620 Um, y'all have a common language.

00:09:13.840 Did I, did I just say y'all?

00:09:15.080 Yes, I did.

00:09:16.580 It's okay.

00:09:18.080 Um, you have a common language.

00:09:20.080 We don't have a common language in Canada.

00:09:21.960 Um, we have French and we have English and, um, in America now we have English and we have

00:09:27.640 Spanish and we are becoming a quilt that is tearing apart at the seams.

00:09:33.460 Yes.

00:09:34.080 And do you feel that where you live?

00:09:35.800 Oh, terribly.

00:09:36.880 Yeah.

00:09:37.500 Terribly.

00:09:38.100 You, you see it, especially see it in the classroom right now.

00:09:43.600 We keep hearing the left say we're losing teachers in public education because they're

00:09:48.240 not being paid enough money.

00:09:49.200 Well, it's not what the polling's telling us.

00:09:52.120 I sat down with Texas Classroom Teachers Association in 2019 and I said, quality of the life, violence

00:10:01.620 in the classroom, teacher pay.

00:10:03.480 What's the most important issue?

00:10:05.260 Quality of the life and, and violence in the classroom.

00:10:09.160 Violence in the classroom.

00:10:10.520 Violence in the classroom.

00:10:12.400 Teachers are being assaulted like you have never seen before.

00:10:16.220 I mean, there was one school in the state of Texas and I think it was on TikTok, 72 assaults

00:10:23.980 or I'm sorry, 72 fights on that were recorded.

00:10:27.780 So that's basically two fights a week in the school that were recorded and then were on TikTok.

00:10:32.200 And those are just the ones that they've caught.

00:10:35.100 And you see this in classroom after classroom after classroom.

00:10:38.340 So you bring, you bring children together that can't speak the language and then you

00:10:45.560 poison them with critical race theory to tell them that the children of color are oppressed

00:10:52.260 and the white kids are oppressors.

00:10:54.380 What could go wrong?

00:10:55.580 Right?

00:10:56.400 I mean, it's just.

00:10:57.140 You've got a lot of attacks on whites as a result of that.

00:10:59.280 You have.

00:10:59.780 A lot of race hate.

00:11:00.380 And a lot of attacks on white teachers.

00:11:02.780 As well.

00:11:04.120 And again, a lot of this, it stems from what we've done with the border and our unwillingness

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00:11:12.420 This is not about understanding, better understanding what's going on in Mexico.

00:11:15.960 Mexico's a failed state.

00:11:18.000 And we've got to treat it like a failed state.

00:11:20.460 We've got to close the border.

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00:14:50.720 And yet, Crenshaw, every time I've seen him speak, it's about Ukraine's sacred borders, its territorial integrity, standing up for democracy, fighting Putin-Hitler or whatever.

00:15:05.500 What is that?

00:15:06.320 Why the emphasis?

00:15:07.320 I mean, I think it's fair to have views on all kinds of foreign questions.

00:15:10.960 But in his case, it's so much the center of his focus.

00:15:15.080 Why?

00:15:15.380 You know, and I get that you can go from Trump was, you know, Russia went into Crimea, right, under Barack Obama in his silly line in the sand.

00:15:31.160 And Trump came in and where Obama had given them blankets and Band-Aids, Trump came in and gave them, you know, anti-tank missiles.

00:15:39.240 And he gave them serious weaponry to stall the Russians.

00:15:44.800 And then Biden comes in and does the exact opposite, right?

00:15:49.260 But starts talking tough.

00:15:50.780 And I, so I guess I can get initially saying, okay, I want to get back to doing what Trump did.

00:15:56.960 But the obsession that he displayed in the midst of it was sickening, was absolutely sickening, especially, again, when you call into account the fact that we have an open border in the South and he was doing nothing to help us.

00:16:11.520 In fact, when the Senate deal came about, he held a town hall for elected officials in our district.

00:16:17.180 And I put my hand up and I said, Dan, you're allowing 5,000 people into the country a day.

00:16:22.080 And he just absolutely was totally pissed, really, that I was bringing this up.

00:16:29.040 And I'm not the only one.

00:16:29.960 Senator Creighton also was like, we cannot do this.

00:16:33.440 And he said, you guys should be absolutely thankful that we're doing something now to close the border because you can't do it.

00:16:41.840 And like, we have done it.

00:16:43.540 We just need you guys to stay the hell out of the way.

00:16:46.480 We could close, Texas on its own could close the border.

00:16:49.160 We just need you to keep out of our business.

00:16:51.380 If you're not going to help us, get out of the way.

00:16:54.820 And he was just emphatic that we couldn't do it.

00:16:57.280 We needed to pass this legislation.

00:17:00.640 Meanwhile, Trump was saying, you don't need any legislation.

00:17:03.140 You just need to close the border.

00:17:04.120 You just need to show some stones, some backbone and close the border.

00:17:07.820 And Trump has proved it.

00:17:08.720 Well, you don't have a National Guard in Texas?

00:17:10.360 I mean, I never understood that.

00:17:11.620 But I'm interested in his reaction.

00:17:14.960 I've seen this with him a lot.

00:17:16.320 And it suggests that there's something, I think he's mentally ill.

00:17:18.660 I'm just going to say that.

00:17:19.400 I'm not saying that it's an attack.

00:17:20.680 I'm saying that with sympathy, there's something really wrong with him.

00:17:24.600 I think he was damaged by his service.

00:17:26.860 I think it's partly our fault as a country for sending these guys into these horrible positions

00:17:31.940 and then not helping them when they come home.

00:17:33.940 I know that you help run Mighty Oaks, which is a group dedicated to helping servicemen when they come back

00:17:39.460 so they don't kill themselves.

00:17:40.360 So I know you spent a lot of time on this.

00:17:41.780 I don't want to attack him too much personally because I want to be compassionate.

00:17:47.240 But boy, I've never seen any elected official respond to criticism the way he does.

00:17:53.480 I mean, it's like anyone who asks him a question, it's like, you're evil.

00:17:56.520 I saw him recently say, if you don't agree with me on this foreign policy issue, you're evil.

00:18:01.140 It's like, what is that?

00:18:03.720 You can't enter into any kind of dialogue with him.

00:18:08.140 He just takes it personally.

00:18:09.740 He gets offended.

00:18:10.540 He's completely thin-skinned over it.

00:18:12.080 I just can't.

00:18:12.680 And attacks you for asking the question.

00:18:13.880 And then attacks you and attacks your integrity, your character, and your intellectual capacity.

00:18:19.120 I can't put words to it.

00:18:23.640 So who's for him?

00:18:25.660 I think the lobby is absolutely for him.

00:18:28.820 I think establishment Republicans and, you know, the Karl Rove, the Associated Republicans of Texas are for him.

00:18:34.640 What's that?

00:18:36.160 It should be called the Associated Rhinos of Texas, but it's so sick.

00:18:42.560 These guys-

00:18:43.320 Associated Republicans of Texas.

00:18:44.660 Associated Republicans of Texas.

00:18:45.940 So they come after conservative Republicans every two years.

00:18:49.580 I've got one of the most conservative voting records in the Texas House.

00:18:52.220 I've been like in the top five, top four, my last four sessions.

00:18:57.920 I've passed some really important, critically important, comprehensive legislation that's part of the Republican priorities.

00:19:04.860 Banning critical race theory in the classroom.

00:19:06.780 Banning the social transition of children.

00:19:10.040 And yet, this group comes after me every two years.

00:19:13.240 Two election cycles ago, they spent $300,000, $400,000 against me and were able to get 36% of the vote.

00:19:21.800 This last election cycle, the Associated Republicans of Texas spent $700,000 against me and got 34% of the vote.

00:19:28.380 Really?

00:19:29.200 But Dan Crenshaw helps fund him.

00:19:31.140 Why?

00:19:31.620 So he takes his lobbying money and he writes checks, tens of thousands of dollars to the Associated Republicans of Texas that isn't doing anything to help us expand the majority in the Texas House.

00:19:42.520 They just come after the conservatives.

00:19:44.340 It's trying to make you more like Democrats.

00:19:46.900 Completely.

00:19:47.860 Yeah.

00:19:48.240 So what is it and who runs it and where does its money come from?

00:19:51.180 It's Karl Rove and it's just kind of big establishment money, lobby money.

00:19:59.760 Karl Rove, every time I ask someone involved in Texas politics, how does this conservative, this great state get such horrible?

00:20:07.940 Like how does a John Cornyn or Dan Crenshaw get elected in Texas?

00:20:12.720 They always mention Karl Rove.

00:20:14.600 You, Karl, Texas is the eighth largest economy in the world.

00:20:19.720 Our economy is bigger than Russia.

00:20:21.760 Our economy is bigger than Australia.

00:20:23.640 It's bigger than Canada.

00:20:24.800 It's bigger than Mexico.

00:20:25.800 It's a huge economy.

00:20:27.220 We, we have a 300 plus billion dollar budget, right?

00:20:31.600 And so when you're talking-

00:20:33.460 State budget?

00:20:33.840 State budget.

00:20:34.740 Over $300 billion?

00:20:36.420 Yeah.

00:20:37.240 Yeah.

00:20:37.900 Damn.

00:20:38.380 Per biennium.

00:20:39.260 And so when you're talking about that kind of money, it attracts a lot of bottom dwellers.

00:20:44.180 So you hear about the Washington cartel.

00:20:46.700 Well, it's pretty much the same thing in Austin, Texas.

00:20:50.960 There's just a lot of money, just a ton of money.

00:20:54.780 And they will get fixated on things like bringing gambling to Texas as an example.

00:21:01.000 The neocons desperately want to bring gambling to Texas.

00:21:06.960 I'm very libertarian on this issue.

00:21:08.720 You know, like if you want to have a card game and you want to gamble, what you do in

00:21:12.280 your, in your house is, is up to you.

00:21:14.780 It's none of my business.

00:21:17.380 But at the end of the day, if you're going to say this is state sponsored and we're only

00:21:22.340 going to give out two or three licenses and we're going to give them out to our friends

00:21:25.720 that have given tons of campaign money, right?

00:21:29.500 Then it's corrupt.

00:21:31.480 It's, it's crony capitalism to the max, right?

00:21:34.080 Does it improve people's lives?

00:21:35.360 Does it improve people's lives?

00:21:36.440 And at the end of the day, you look at any, you look at any of the states that have implemented

00:21:39.460 it.

00:21:40.040 Oh, yeah.

00:21:40.580 And we have, we have a national treasurer in Houston by the name of Jim McInvale.

00:21:46.020 His name is Mattress Mac and he owns gallery furniture.

00:21:48.740 He's the most amazing man in the whole world.

00:21:51.140 And he's a gambler.

00:21:52.100 And, and he would say the worst thing that Texas could possibly do would be to bring

00:21:58.600 gambling to Texas.

00:21:59.600 Why?

00:22:00.600 You, they build these billion dollar resorts, right?

00:22:04.480 With cash, these multi, multinational corporations.

00:22:08.000 What happens to that money?

00:22:08.960 People go and gamble and that money leaves our economy.

00:22:11.400 Of course.

00:22:11.820 So you have less money moving within the economy.

00:22:13.860 They'll say, well, yeah, but it's a, it's a great tax revenue.

00:22:18.120 It's a, there's great tax revenue from it.

00:22:19.780 Yeah, but eventually the pool in which you're drawing from dries up.

00:22:24.240 Well, where's it worked?

00:22:25.340 I mean, it was going to save the state of Maine, for example.

00:22:28.920 No, it was going to save East St. Louis, Illinois.

00:22:32.880 No, it was going to save Mississippi Gulf Coast.

00:22:37.220 No.

00:22:37.980 So is there a place where gambling has actually made people's lives better?

00:22:42.220 No.

00:22:42.400 Just enriched like some of the worst people in the world.

00:22:44.780 It's, it's, it's all it is.

00:22:45.800 And this past session, the past two sessions, they've been trying to do it.

00:22:50.560 And they, I got a call from the lobbyists, which they assigned two lobbyists to me.

00:22:56.160 So there are 150 house members.

00:22:58.100 Each of us had two lobbyists assigned to them for gambling.

00:23:01.900 And it became the no lobbyists left behind session when it came to gambling.

00:23:06.960 And, and they're like, hey, we want to write you a $25,000 check for your, your reelection campaign.

00:23:13.720 I'm like, I, I don't want it.

00:23:15.540 We're not asking for your guaranteed vote in favor of it.

00:23:18.540 And I'm like, I, I don't want it.

00:23:21.660 If Planned Parenthood wanted to give me money so I could vote against plan, vote against abortion, I would take that money so I could vote against abortion.

00:23:28.400 But I'm not going to take your dirty money that came at the hands of somebody that lost their house or lost their marriage or lost their business as a result of it.

00:23:38.220 It's just dirty money.

00:23:39.000 What were the gambling lobbyists like?

00:23:41.560 Some of the nicest guys.

00:23:42.660 Oh, charming, I bet.

00:23:43.680 Very wonderful people.

00:23:44.680 Did they call it gaming?

00:23:45.560 Um, some did.

00:23:47.600 Yeah.

00:23:48.200 And Steve, don't, don't you understand about the money that we're going to be able to spend on public education as a result of doing this?

00:23:55.000 Right.

00:23:55.900 It's about the children, Steve.

00:23:57.400 It's about the children.

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00:27:45.400 So what happened to the legislation?

00:27:47.280 It went down in flames.

00:27:48.780 So it typically, and I appreciate Dan Patrick over in the Senate because he pretty much guaranteed that as long as he's going to be the like of,

00:27:56.740 and hopefully Brandon Creighton will come in after him, will do the same thing.

00:28:02.100 I think he will, but I don't think it has a future in Texas, thankfully.

00:28:05.500 Gambling.

00:28:05.840 Gambling.

00:28:07.300 And I want to be clear on this.

00:28:09.020 Casino gambling.

00:28:10.020 Again, you want to have card games at your house, invite people over and gamble?

00:28:12.960 Of course.

00:28:13.500 I don't care.

00:28:15.600 Bringing in casinos.

00:28:17.120 Yeah.

00:28:17.560 Yeah.

00:28:19.360 Wow.

00:28:19.940 So where was Dan Patrick on this?

00:28:21.780 He killed it over in the Senate.

00:28:23.700 Okay.

00:28:24.000 So he's Lieutenant Governor.

00:28:25.200 Right.

00:28:25.380 And where was Crenshaw?

00:28:27.740 Silent.

00:28:29.220 Really?

00:28:29.700 And that's the problem is that, you know, there's so many things that are threatening Texas right now.

00:28:35.660 And Dan Crenshaw has been absolutely silent.

00:28:38.780 So in 2000, it was 2014 when Abbott became governor, when Ken Paxton became the attorney general.

00:28:48.640 Those guys won with 23 and 24 point margins over the Democrats.

00:28:53.180 We're winning now with eight point margins.

00:28:55.840 Where did the margin go?

00:28:58.320 Where did these huge winds go, evaporate to?

00:29:02.020 And it's not people moving into Texas.

00:29:05.060 Seven out of 10 of them.

00:29:06.820 Tucker, Texas is still red from people moving into it.

00:29:09.820 Republicans that are refugees, if you will, where we're losing is our children, our kids.

00:29:19.780 Our kids are being absolutely indoctrinated in the classroom.

00:29:23.600 And immigration.

00:29:24.140 I grew up in California.

00:29:25.460 I was at Reagan's last rally in California in 1980.

00:29:28.560 And it was a right wing state.

00:29:30.160 It was California was a, I mean, Bill Clinton lost California in 1992 and won West Virginia in 1992.

00:29:37.320 So like, and now California is, of course, bright blue and West Virginia is bright red.

00:29:45.540 Why is that?

00:29:46.100 Because California is a completely different state due to immigration and West Virginia has had less immigration than any other state.

00:29:51.640 Yeah.

00:29:51.700 The, the, the, the, the big problem though, is that politicians like Dan Crenshaw refused to take on the teachers unions.

00:30:01.040 They refused to stand up to the teachers unions.

00:30:03.860 Why?

00:30:04.580 They're afraid of them.

00:30:05.720 They spend tons of money.

00:30:07.000 And Randy Weingartner and her ilk, um, scare the heck out of these people.

00:30:15.140 So Crenshaw is afraid.

00:30:17.340 So he's like, I mean, it's the only thing I get, I, you can't, I, I, there's been zero activism on his part whatsoever.

00:30:24.260 Um, it, it's standing up to these people.

00:30:27.340 Hmm.

00:30:28.280 You hate ever to suggest that someone's doing something for the money.

00:30:32.240 Right.

00:30:32.580 But in Crenshaw's case, like his position on Ukraine is so far out that it's obvious to me he's being paid to have that position.

00:30:43.800 But you tell me, is sending a hundred billion more to Ukraine, are Ukraine's borders, are these like really huge issues in your district?

00:30:53.240 It's, the border is the biggest issue.

00:30:55.340 The U.S. border.

00:30:56.120 The U.S. border.

00:30:56.820 And when you ask people, and this is not anecdotal, this is empirical, um, there have been plenty of people polling in Congressional District 2 in Montgomery County.

00:31:08.400 Why?

00:31:09.040 Because it's the biggest red county left in Texas.

00:31:12.140 The governor polls it.

00:31:13.540 We poll it.

00:31:14.220 Other people are polling it.

00:31:15.320 And it's, people see the contrast between the way Ukraine is being taken care of and the Texas border is not.

00:31:25.940 And they draw a contrast and they should.

00:31:29.260 It's kind of that simple, isn't it?

00:31:30.780 Yeah.

00:31:32.000 Where's Karl Rove on this question?

00:31:34.460 You know, I think a lot of these guys are just big government neocons that don't care.

00:31:39.980 They don't see it as a threat at all.

00:31:42.620 At all.

00:31:43.280 Do you ever see Rove around?

00:31:45.580 Never.

00:31:46.680 But he still has a hand in Texas politics.

00:31:48.840 Completely.

00:31:50.580 Huh.

00:31:50.960 Do you ever talk to Crenshaw?

00:31:53.160 The last time I talked to him, the last time I talked to him was at, at that town hall three years ago when he dismissed myself and Senator Creighton for not accepting and not, you know, wholeheartedly buying into this crappy Senate bipartisan bill.

00:32:13.280 That they wanted to push through.

00:32:15.240 And, and again, they blamed President Trump who was out of office at the time saying, you know, Trump is just torpedoing this thing and they're all angry about it.

00:32:24.680 And Trump was just saying, you don't need legislation to close the border.

00:32:29.480 Right.

00:32:30.240 You just need to have the will to do it.

00:32:32.400 And no, Dan Crenshaw and 100% of the Republicans or 100% of the Democrats in Congress said, no, we need this legislation.

00:32:39.720 No, you don't.

00:32:40.220 Close the fricking border.

00:32:42.920 Who, um, who among Texas elected officials supports Crenshaw?

00:32:46.940 You know, what's funny is when the day we announced, we had, I think, 30 of the most conservative members of the Texas legislature that endorsed me.

00:32:59.240 And he came out with a list of people to endorse him.

00:33:03.500 Not one single member of Congress was behind him.

00:33:07.480 Not one, not one active congressman came out to endorse him.

00:33:11.620 Do you ever talk to members of Congress about him who work with him?

00:33:15.640 What do they say?

00:33:16.880 Um, I'm, I'm not going to comment on that.

00:33:19.540 I just, I can't, I just can't.

00:33:21.500 Okay.

00:33:21.920 I understand.

00:33:22.420 But it sounds like he's not a favorite among his colleagues.

00:33:25.180 Yeah.

00:33:25.360 I, so a lot of, you know, I, I came in, when I came into the legislature, I came in with one of the biggest classes.

00:33:30.880 And, and, and since the Sharptown scandal in the seventies, I think there were 42 people in our class and many of them have gone on to serve in, in Congress in Washington.

00:33:41.620 And I have a good relationship with all of them.

00:33:44.800 Yeah.

00:33:45.540 But Crenshaw doesn't sound like he does.

00:33:47.780 Is he close to Cornyn?

00:33:49.800 You know, I don't know if they have a relationship or not.

00:33:52.120 I know that Cornyn is supporting him for obvious reasons, but that's about it.

00:33:55.480 What are those reasons?

00:33:56.120 Well, just, they're, they're both donor class, lobbyist centric people.

00:34:01.820 Um, we're called representatives because we're actually supposed to represent the people that vote us into office.

00:34:06.880 And there are just some that just don't give a flying flip about those people.

00:34:11.400 It's obvious.

00:34:12.160 Well, in, in Crenshaw's cases, clearly he's hostile to them.

00:34:15.160 Yeah.

00:34:15.760 So it's not just you that he's, uh, snapped at for asking a question.

00:34:20.780 I want to play a video and maybe you can explain what we're watching.

00:34:25.260 A young girl comes up to him, she looks very young in the video and asks him about comments that he made about Jesus during a podcast.

00:34:36.860 Before we play this, can you tell us what, what the backstory?

00:34:40.400 So he was on a podcast and Dan wants to show himself off as this intellectual.

00:34:48.780 Dan, Dan is dumb.

00:34:50.260 No offense.

00:34:50.780 No, I'm not being mean.

00:34:51.840 By the way, my dogs are dumb and I, and I think they're going to have it.

00:34:54.440 I have no, I don't think that's a moral category.

00:34:56.780 I'm not attacking him, but he is dumb, like head injury dumb.

00:35:00.400 Um, and I don't, anyway, sorry, sorry to be mean.

00:35:03.800 No, I, I, I think, I actually think he's, I'm going to disagree with you.

00:35:08.380 I think he's incredibly smart.

00:35:10.460 I think he's vacuous when it comes to wisdom though.

00:35:14.220 Maybe that's what I'm referring to.

00:35:15.900 Yeah.

00:35:16.220 So I think he knows a lot.

00:35:18.840 And when I've sat and listened to some of his podcasts and some of the different things,

00:35:22.900 he's a really smart guy, but he completely lacks the wisdom to know what to do with all

00:35:27.580 those smarts.

00:35:28.500 Yeah.

00:35:28.620 And so he's doing this podcast with this guy and they're talking about, he brings up,

00:35:35.180 well, the American people need archetypes, Spider-Man, Superman, and Jesus Christ.

00:35:40.300 And he says, and then real ones too, like Rosa Parks and Abraham Lincoln.

00:35:44.880 And they're like, what?

00:35:46.980 You just, you just actually said.

00:35:49.660 So Rosa Parks is real.

00:35:51.460 Jesus is not.

00:35:52.320 Jesus is not.

00:35:53.160 And so this.

00:35:54.100 That's a Karl Rove position, I think.

00:35:55.560 I probably.

00:35:58.620 I saw it on Wikipedia, let's be real.

00:36:01.960 So this young woman at the Montgomery County Tea Party on a Monday night asks Dan Crenshaw,

00:36:10.220 she said, I'm trying to get my arms around this.

00:36:13.580 And then she read the statement verbatim of what he had said on this podcast.

00:36:18.660 And he said, I can't get my arms around that.

00:36:21.260 And he said, you put a period after Jesus and don't question my faith.

00:36:25.280 And the whole place just lost it.

00:36:27.400 So let's play that.

00:36:28.620 You not only lied about Jesus not being real, but you lied about being a Christian.

00:36:33.680 To give context to anyone, if you haven't heard, Crenshaw said, quote, the most important

00:36:39.120 thing here is that we have important hero archetypes that we look up to.

00:36:43.260 Jesus is a hero archetype.

00:36:44.820 Superman is a hero archetype.

00:36:46.520 Real characters too.

00:36:48.620 I could name a thousand.

00:36:49.840 Rosa Parks, Ronald Reagan, end quote.

00:36:52.660 I can't wrap my head around this.

00:36:54.300 I'll help you.

00:36:55.640 Put a period after Jesus and don't question my faith.

00:36:59.000 Wow.

00:37:01.360 So I think it's fair to, you know, to not want to be attacked for your faith.

00:37:09.080 Okay.

00:37:10.300 I'm with Crenshaw on that.

00:37:12.180 But she wasn't really attacking him on his face.

00:37:13.840 She was asking like, what do you-

00:37:14.880 She wanted clarity.

00:37:15.560 What do you mean?

00:37:16.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:16.560 She wanted clarity.

00:37:17.780 Like, if you ever said anything, you're like, I could have positioned that differently.

00:37:20.800 Have I ever said anything?

00:37:22.520 I mean, I get asked that all the time, especially I'll come home and my wife will be like, did

00:37:26.640 you mean to say that?

00:37:27.580 I'm like, okay, what should I have said?

00:37:29.300 Right.

00:37:29.940 Right?

00:37:30.240 Oh, I've lived it.

00:37:30.700 I'm like, okay, yes, honey, that makes sense.

00:37:32.800 Right?

00:37:34.600 But, and so you just say, wow, I guess I could have handled that differently.

00:37:38.780 That's not what I meant.

00:37:39.780 I would have put a period after Jesus and then I would have shut my mouth and laughed and laughed

00:37:44.920 it off.

00:37:45.200 Totally.

00:37:45.880 But instead he got all defensive at this young woman and tried to ridicule her.

00:37:50.100 Oh, he attacked her like instantly.

00:37:52.620 Yeah.

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00:39:13.940 person.

00:39:15.560 I mean, why would a person like that want to be in elected office in the first place?

00:39:19.160 I don't know, because you are, the reality is that you are the center of scorn.

00:39:24.100 You know, you just are.

00:39:26.260 You, um.

00:39:27.280 Of course.

00:39:28.380 You're going to take some hard positions and you're going to get shot at.

00:39:31.860 Of course.

00:39:33.680 Um, so how did that video go over in Texas?

00:39:38.000 It went viral, like overnight.

00:39:40.780 Yeah.

00:39:40.920 And the next morning it was on all the different radio talk shows.

00:39:44.560 And, um, yeah, went over like a lead balloon.

00:39:47.980 Yeah.

00:39:48.400 And not, at no time did he ever say, well, I handled that.

00:39:52.440 It was a bad night for me.

00:39:53.700 Probably shouldn't have said that.

00:39:54.840 That was silly on my part.

00:39:57.000 Right.

00:39:57.360 I mean, there's just no ability to be gracious and kind to that young woman, even in the

00:40:02.120 absence of, in seeing whatever, what happened.

00:40:05.980 Nothing.

00:40:06.560 It was just bizarre.

00:40:07.540 I want to play one other clip, um, that I think reveals a lot, not just about his, about

00:40:15.800 his temperament, but about his agenda.

00:40:18.500 So, he was asked by a reporter, um, whom I respect called Liam Cosgrove, uh, well, coming

00:40:24.720 out of Congress, this was earlier, this was the spring, early summer.

00:40:29.020 And he was asked about legislation that he had voted for.

00:40:32.660 Um, and basically his position was, um, the intel agencies are not in any way playing in

00:40:39.520 American politics.

00:40:41.380 Here's the exchange.

00:40:42.820 With data and with access to your, you know, app that you're addicted to, you can vastly

00:40:47.840 manipulate, um, an entire population, which the Chinese have done.

00:40:51.560 Are you worried that our intelligence agencies are doing the same thing domestically?

00:40:54.560 Am I worried that, and I, well, I know that they're not.

00:40:59.060 They're not manipulating Americans.

00:41:00.420 They're not controlling a flow of information.

00:41:02.340 Yeah.

00:41:02.520 Did you have some evidence otherwise that you'd like to share?

00:41:05.480 I mean, before the 20th.

00:41:06.960 Any serious questions?

00:41:08.280 Congressman, you asked for an example of the U.S. intelligence agencies meddling in our

00:41:12.020 information.

00:41:12.580 What about before the 2020 election when 50 members came out and said the Hunter Biden laptop

00:41:18.060 was Russian disinformation?

00:41:19.180 Does that count?

00:41:20.340 No, because, I mean, they were, they were retired.

00:41:22.740 They were retired, but the FBI, the FBI had the laptop for over a year.

00:41:26.880 There's nothing even close to a TikTok.

00:41:29.300 So, that, I felt, again, I've spent the last half an hour sort of defending Crenshaw in

00:41:37.940 a backhanded way.

00:41:38.800 I think he's a victim, um, of the war on terror, if I'm being honest.

00:41:43.140 That's what I think.

00:41:44.020 He's clearly so damaged and screwed up and tragic personal life and all the rest.

00:41:47.820 But when I saw that, I thought, this is like, not a good person, actually.

00:41:52.740 The most egregious thing about that is that as I talk to friends in D.C., they see this

00:42:01.920 like on a daily basis.

00:42:03.440 Oh, yes.

00:42:04.540 And-

00:42:05.100 So, wait, see what?

00:42:07.100 This is the deep state.

00:42:08.980 This is the deep state at work that he's denying exists.

00:42:12.620 The intel agency's playing in American politics.

00:42:14.680 Right.

00:42:15.240 So, what the left has done is they've positioned this fourth branch of government so that even

00:42:23.300 when they're not in power, they're in power.

00:42:25.440 Yes.

00:42:26.300 That's what they've created.

00:42:27.780 They've created a system whereby, so you lose Congress, you lose the White House.

00:42:33.200 We don't care.

00:42:34.200 They don't care because they have the fourth branch of government that's still running the

00:42:37.800 show.

00:42:39.000 It's so blatantly honest or obvious.

00:42:42.840 I had a quick little story.

00:42:45.420 I had a young woman call me.

00:42:48.020 She was referred to me by someone from Texans for Vaccine Choice.

00:42:50.880 She transitioned and she's transitioning.

00:42:54.300 She bought into the lie that she was a male.

00:42:58.500 And at 26 years of age, she's trying to transition back.

00:43:02.840 And she called me up and said-

00:43:04.780 And she's been shot full of hormones and the whole thing.

00:43:07.760 Hysterectomy.

00:43:08.320 Oh, come on.

00:43:09.380 Mastectomy.

00:43:11.540 And when you shoot someone-

00:43:12.600 Did a hysterectomy in her 20s?

00:43:15.160 No, earlier than that.

00:43:16.980 And the problem is when you put people on cross-sex hormones, I'm getting way afield here, but

00:43:20.460 it screws up their system, right?

00:43:22.780 Oh.

00:43:24.040 And she's the most beautiful young woman.

00:43:26.340 And, but she has a driver's license with a male name on it.

00:43:30.660 And so I just, I called up the head of DPS and I said, can we take care of this for her?

00:43:36.920 And by the next morning, she had a new driver's license with her name on it and brought her

00:43:40.640 to tears.

00:43:41.160 Like, that's her identity now, right?

00:43:44.360 You can do things like that at the state of Texas level because we haven't turned the

00:43:51.080 fourth branch of government into anything that can hurt people.

00:43:56.140 It's been done at the federal level.

00:43:57.860 There's still democratic control too.

00:43:59.820 Like the people still have a voice as screwed up and corrupt as the state may be.

00:44:03.360 And it is, in my opinion.

00:44:05.020 There's still like a possibility that you can make change.

00:44:07.640 Especially in the Texas Education Agency where you see a lot of this stuff, but you still

00:44:11.720 can make change, right?

00:44:12.740 But at the federal level, like if you were to call immigration or something like that,

00:44:17.860 they'd laugh at you.

00:44:18.680 Of course.

00:44:19.060 You're just a silly congressman.

00:44:21.080 We don't care what you think.

00:44:22.600 Why would they?

00:44:23.360 Why would they?

00:44:24.300 Right?

00:44:25.680 And they do the same thing with the executive branch.

00:44:28.040 They are just completely aloof.

00:44:31.800 They don't care what we think.

00:44:33.020 They don't care what the elected officials, they don't care what a constitutionally elected

00:44:37.640 person that holds office.

00:44:39.700 They don't care what you think.

00:44:40.500 Even though your department may be underneath an agency that you oversee as a sitting member

00:44:47.340 of Congress, they don't care.

00:44:49.660 No.

00:44:49.980 They're indifferent.

00:44:50.300 Well, this is why Doge was a good idea.

00:44:52.200 Yeah.

00:44:52.980 And, you know, really no one's, until people are really fired, people who work for us,

00:44:57.940 then there's no incentive for them to change.

00:44:59.720 But here's the problem, Tucker, is that we've got a responsibility, I think, as elected officials,

00:45:04.940 to say to the American people, this is going on.

00:45:09.060 Yeah.

00:45:09.200 I see it with my own eyes.

00:45:10.680 This is what's going on.

00:45:12.160 Yes.

00:45:12.500 And guys like Crenshaw are like, no, I'm going to defend it.

00:45:16.560 Well, how could you defend?

00:45:18.040 So how could, I mean, he was asked specifically, the intel agencies have basically nullified democracy

00:45:24.340 because they are playing a role in American politics, a very big role.

00:45:29.880 And that's documented.

00:45:31.120 It's not a matter of guesswork at this point.

00:45:33.180 We know that.

00:45:34.420 And it's, as you just said, anyone who works in Washington sees it every single day.

00:45:38.080 So like if he's denying that angrily, what does that say about his role?

00:45:43.180 I mean, he was asked specifically about Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:45:48.320 Yeah.

00:45:48.540 And it was called Russian disinformation by the intelligence community.

00:45:52.840 Oh, yes.

00:45:53.940 And he blew it off.

00:45:56.820 Completely blew it off.

00:45:58.720 Just like they blew off Biden's daughter's diary.

00:46:04.040 Of course.

00:46:04.820 Well, they put the people who had it in jail.

00:46:07.300 Right.

00:46:08.540 For the crime of having Ashley Biden's diary in which she said she showered with her dad

00:46:13.200 and it screwed her up sexually.

00:46:14.980 How couldn't it?

00:46:15.540 That's what it's, well, exactly.

00:46:17.040 How couldn't it?

00:46:17.620 But that was just, they put the guy in jail for that.

00:46:21.060 I mean, for having it.

00:46:22.540 Yeah.

00:46:22.980 Or, you know, the young woman that was a staffer for Joe Biden when he was in the Senate.

00:46:29.720 Oh, I know her.

00:46:30.340 Tara Reid.

00:46:31.160 I know her well.

00:46:31.680 She lives in Moscow now because she's basically driven out of the country.

00:46:34.520 They destroyed her.

00:46:35.440 Oh, I know her well.

00:46:37.860 Yes.

00:46:38.220 That's literally, but no one cared.

00:46:39.900 My heart just breaks for her.

00:46:41.520 Sweet woman too.

00:46:42.800 Very sweet woman.

00:46:44.420 Yeah.

00:46:44.620 She had to leave this country, be away from her family, her child.

00:46:48.020 I mean, it's, it's, and no one cared.

00:46:50.120 The feminists said not one word.

00:46:51.760 The same players in government don't, don't treat Republicans that way.

00:46:59.180 I mean, if it, it's only, it's only people that say bad things about the power structure

00:47:09.400 of Washington, D.C.

00:47:10.480 They're the only ones that get held accountable.

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00:47:52.480 So why do you think, I just am fascinated by the very first thing you said when we sat

00:47:58.240 down was, I have to confess my role in Dan Crenshaw's victory because he made this really

00:48:06.920 compelling case that he was going to fight the corruption in D.C.

00:48:10.320 And I understood that.

00:48:12.080 He knew what we wanted to hear.

00:48:13.720 But how, why not like fight corruption a little bit?

00:48:18.800 Why immediately start making excuses for the CIA controlling U.S. elections?

00:48:24.380 Like, why would you ever make excuses for that?

00:48:27.000 I can't, I can't for the life of me, get my arms around it.

00:48:33.300 Okay, well, I have a little bit, I just have a guess.

00:48:35.260 I don't know either.

00:48:36.400 I don't talk to Dan Crenshaw, you know, directly.

00:48:41.920 But there was this kind of amazing moment right after COVID when people,

00:48:48.800 started taking a look at the performance of various members of Congress' stock portfolios.

00:48:53.940 And, you know, I personally know hedge fund managers who've underperformed the market.

00:48:59.880 Right.

00:48:59.980 People who do this for a living, maybe billions, some years, they just don't, you know,

00:49:03.040 it's very hard to beat the market.

00:49:05.880 But Dan Crenshaw did somehow.

00:49:07.940 He made a lot of trades, including after getting classified briefings on COVID policy.

00:49:13.360 And he was called out on this.

00:49:15.300 And he wasn't the only one.

00:49:16.720 I mean, Nancy Pelosi famously.

00:49:18.160 But Dan Crenshaw did pretty well.

00:49:19.780 And, you know, I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he's like a market expert.

00:49:24.400 So, like, how exactly did that work?

00:49:27.040 And this was his response.

00:49:28.500 He didn't, you know, he immediately started attacking anyone who asked him.

00:49:31.900 And he said, you don't let us trade stocks.

00:49:34.200 You don't let us make any money either.

00:49:35.760 We haven't gotten a pay raise since 2008.

00:49:39.820 So, I mean, I don't think members of Congress are overpaid exactly, but they're paid all

00:49:43.760 multiples of what the average person makes and they get a lifetime pension.

00:49:47.020 So, it's a pretty good deal and free health care and dental.

00:49:49.040 So, it's like he's clearly very focused on money.

00:49:53.640 He was vicious, too, about the way he said it.

00:49:55.800 I mean, the level of anger in his voice that he would be questioned about the way he's

00:50:04.980 trading stock or what he gets paid.

00:50:07.680 So, the average Texan is paid $76,000.

00:50:12.260 Dan Crenshaw is making $174,000 of your tax dollars.

00:50:16.260 He's being paid by our tax dollars in Texas.

00:50:18.840 Of course.

00:50:19.600 And he thinks he should make more.

00:50:21.160 Well, for a young man, too, the lifetime value of the package that he's, which he's already

00:50:26.540 gotten because he's already served multiple terms.

00:50:28.600 Right.

00:50:29.160 So, is many millions of dollars over the course of a life.

00:50:32.580 Yeah.

00:50:33.200 Yeah.

00:50:33.900 It's crazy.

00:50:35.200 It is crazy.

00:50:36.480 So, I mean, it does, like, what do you make of the stock trading?

00:50:40.400 How did Dan Crenshaw beat the market?

00:50:43.720 Well, multiple people have talked about it and multiple people over the years have said

00:50:48.760 that we've got to stop it because we have access, they have access to information that

00:50:54.900 the average person doesn't have access to.

00:50:56.600 Exactly.

00:50:56.700 And it's really not a lot different in Texas.

00:50:58.340 Again, we're the eighth largest economy in the United States.

00:51:00.820 I see deals that are coming our way and I could own stock in those companies, but my

00:51:07.540 wife and I have chosen to stay out of the market.

00:51:10.200 And for that very simple reason, even-

00:51:12.000 You're not in the market at all.

00:51:12.820 At all.

00:51:13.960 At all.

00:51:14.560 So, I own real estate.

00:51:16.320 I own some rental houses.

00:51:19.000 And that's my retirement.

00:51:20.820 But I don't want to be, I want to avoid the appearance of evil.

00:51:25.720 This has been an issue.

00:51:27.220 This went all the way back to, remember Eric Cantor?

00:51:29.680 Very well.

00:51:30.660 Eric Cantor was thrown out of office.

00:51:33.380 Dave, I can't think of his last name.

00:51:35.460 He's a-

00:51:36.580 I know them both.

00:51:37.600 Yeah.

00:51:38.140 But anyways, Cantor lost because of his defense and voted against legislation.

00:51:43.720 This is going back 10, 12 years that would have stopped this.

00:51:48.800 And the American people have just had enough with it.

00:51:50.860 They just have absolutely had enough of it.

00:51:53.320 And I don't blame them.

00:51:54.420 It's just absolutely stupid.

00:51:55.680 You're taking advantage of the system and enriching yourselves.

00:52:00.880 And that creates a perverse incentive inside you to do the wrong thing and to vote the wrong way.

00:52:05.680 Why not?

00:52:06.240 I mean, if you're Nancy Pelosi or if you're Dan Crenshaw, whose politics are very similar, by the way.

00:52:11.720 Dan's a liberal.

00:52:12.400 I guess if that's not obvious, I should just say that.

00:52:14.640 Dan's a liberal.

00:52:15.240 But, you know, both of them have taken a lot of crap for this.

00:52:18.340 I mean, they've really been attacked for the appearance of insider trading.

00:52:24.420 I can't call it that, but certainly what it looks like.

00:52:27.360 Clearly, it looks that way.

00:52:29.700 Why wouldn't you just ban it and then you can get rich when you leave and you can go lobby for AIPAC or whatever he's going to do?

00:52:37.160 But, like, I don't-

00:52:38.720 The simplest thing would be to file legislation and then dump your portfolio or dump it into a blind trust.

00:52:47.580 At the very least, if you're going to say, okay, you can't own stock, at the very least, we should be encouraging these guys to dump them into a blind trust so that they can't manipulate the market or manipulate their own portfolio as a result of what they know.

00:53:04.440 Doesn't it make people cynical about their government?

00:53:06.620 That's the problem.

00:53:07.420 I mean, I think probably the greatest threat to the United States right now is the cynicism that we have towards our elected officials.

00:53:16.200 Yes.

00:53:16.400 We're so-

00:53:16.860 I think, especially conservatives, every time we hear lock her up, they're not going to lock her up.

00:53:22.100 No, they're not.

00:53:22.980 Throw them out of office.

00:53:23.820 They're not going to throw them out of office.

00:53:25.180 Liars.

00:53:25.380 They're not going to throw them out of office.

00:53:26.660 Liars.

00:53:27.200 It's just, we're so sick of it.

00:53:28.580 And this is going on here in Texas, right, as well with the quorum busters that, while we were trying to do redistricting, they went to Illinois and they went to California.

00:53:39.000 And we heard, lock them up, lock them up.

00:53:40.540 And we're going to lock them up.

00:53:41.260 We're going to throw them out of office.

00:53:42.040 No one's going to get thrown out of office.

00:53:43.180 And it just, it feeds the cynicism that we all rightfully have right now because it's so fake.

00:53:52.400 I feel like that cynicism is the most intense and the most dangerous among, like, patriotic normal Americans.

00:53:59.040 They have really been betrayed.

00:54:00.960 Oh, my gosh.

00:54:01.580 Because they really believed in it.

00:54:03.360 I mean, practically everyone who got arrested on January 6th was carrying, like, a pocket constitution.

00:54:09.640 Like, these were people who really believe in this system.

00:54:12.220 Yeah.

00:54:12.380 And yet you see people that were part of rabble-rousing in Washington, D.C. that day that never went to jail.

00:54:20.540 Well, they don't even, they hate the system.

00:54:22.180 They want to tear it down.

00:54:23.820 I'm talking about the insiders.

00:54:25.420 Of course.

00:54:25.840 No, no, I agree.

00:54:26.820 But, I mean, someone like Crenshaw or Nancy Pelosi, they don't believe in the system.

00:54:31.840 They're grifters, obviously.

00:54:33.360 But, like, the people who do believe in the system and are the victim of this just serial decades-long betrayal, those people,

00:54:41.400 and I feel like I'm one of them, being honest, it just makes me so mad, I can barely see.

00:54:47.100 Because you feel like you're betrayed by your own leaders.

00:54:49.500 Do you feel that?

00:54:50.180 Oh, completely.

00:54:50.920 And it's harder because when you're in office, you're kind of like, okay, because of what you're doing right now, I'm going to get painted with that same brush.

00:54:57.220 Oh, so you, I mean, you're in the Texas house, so.

00:54:59.340 Yeah.

00:54:59.640 How often do you see that?

00:55:00.840 All the time.

00:55:02.200 And, like, I'll post something about what's going on with the cornbreakers right now.

00:55:08.780 They're like, oh, you're just a piece of crap.

00:55:10.860 You, you know, you're going to tell us what we want to hear.

00:55:14.020 And it's like, I don't blame that guy for feeling that way.

00:55:16.540 Yes.

00:55:16.880 He should feel that way.

00:55:20.380 Because our government has done nothing to bring the hammer down on these people.

00:55:24.260 It's just all talk.

00:55:27.880 I, I, I mean, it feels like we're getting to, like, a dangerous level of anger.

00:55:33.260 I feel it anyway.

00:55:34.860 I feel like I hate everyone.

00:55:36.800 All these people, especially the ones who claim to represent me.

00:55:39.480 They're just liars.

00:55:41.260 I know.

00:55:41.620 So, I'm less mad at Pelosi than I am at some Republicans who I formerly believed in.

00:55:48.100 I'm more mad at us right now.

00:55:50.100 I'm way more mad at Republicans than I am Democrats.

00:55:53.420 Oh, I agree with that completely.

00:55:56.860 When I have, look, Republicans, Democrats, Democrats are like trail horses.

00:56:03.440 Each one sticks his nose in the ass of the horse in front of them.

00:56:07.880 And Republicans are like Mustangs.

00:56:10.200 We're biting each other.

00:56:11.560 We're kicking each other.

00:56:12.520 Yeah.

00:56:12.720 We're fighting.

00:56:16.580 They work in lockstep together.

00:56:20.480 And they take people out that don't believe in their radical views.

00:56:27.580 There was a woman in the Texas legislature last session, Sean Theory, Democrat,

00:56:34.400 that voted with us and against the gender mutilation of little girls and boys.

00:56:40.200 And the Democrat Party responded by running somebody against her and spending a million dollars to take her out.

00:56:48.020 Did they?

00:56:48.860 They did.

00:56:49.600 They took her out.

00:56:50.600 For that?

00:56:51.200 For that.

00:56:51.620 We, on the other hand, we try and take out members of our own party that fight for our values.

00:57:02.720 I've noticed.

00:57:03.660 And it's just, it's so sick.

00:57:06.040 What is that?

00:57:07.140 Here's the reality is that the modern day Republican Party, when we win elections, we take office.

00:57:14.100 When Democrats win elections, they wield power.

00:57:17.240 They fully believe in what they're fighting for.

00:57:21.180 We just have people that want power, that want to get elected.

00:57:24.420 And it's sad because, like, don't you care about anything?

00:57:28.960 Is there no holy discontent inside your soul that bothers you about what's going on in our country today that you're willing to fight for?

00:57:36.140 Or are you just willing to play it safe so you can stay in office?

00:57:40.700 Democrats fight.

00:57:42.060 They believe in everything that they're doing.

00:57:45.160 What do you think the answer is?

00:57:48.240 Honestly?

00:57:49.100 Yeah.

00:57:49.300 I think we need a spiritual renewal in America.

00:57:54.200 And we need to get back to our founding principles.

00:57:57.140 And our Constitution was meant only for a holy and religious people.

00:58:08.860 And we're starting to see our nation and our society just fray and tear apart right now.

00:58:15.340 And as a result of that, we're raising up people that should not be in office, that are serving, and have no place in serving.

00:58:27.420 Within the Republican Party.

00:58:28.400 I'm talking about within the Republican Party.

00:58:29.980 Oh, of course you are.

00:58:30.820 Oh, I believe that.

00:58:32.360 And I know so many of them.

00:58:34.920 I've always felt like the problem was the, you know, what they call rhinos.

00:58:39.760 I'm not even sure what a Republican is now anyway, so it doesn't even, I don't know.

00:58:43.440 I'm not even sure what a conservative is anymore.

00:58:45.140 I'm not either.

00:58:45.700 When Mitt Romney says, I'm an extreme conservative.

00:58:48.000 Like, what?

00:58:49.360 What?

00:58:50.240 No.

00:58:50.620 You're an extreme conservative?

00:58:51.840 No.

00:58:52.420 You're a guilty old lady.

00:58:55.800 But now it feels like there are, you know, people jumping up and down about America first who are, you know.

00:59:05.740 They're biding their time until Trump's gone.

00:59:08.400 Oh, yeah.

00:59:09.580 You feel that?

00:59:10.180 Oh, completely.

00:59:11.520 Yeah.

00:59:11.680 So, among people you serve with in the House in Texas, how many are really sincere, do you think?

00:59:19.580 So, 88 Republicans, 62 Democrats, and 67 of us got together and selected David Cook as Speaker.

00:59:34.840 Mm-hmm.

00:59:35.540 And the balance, the small balance of-

00:59:37.120 This is the new speaker.

00:59:38.580 No.

00:59:38.880 He should have been the new speaker.

00:59:41.480 Okay.

00:59:41.920 After all, 67 of us got together.

00:59:43.860 Because you had the drunk guy.

00:59:45.460 Dade's gone.

00:59:47.520 And we led, there are four of us that led a revolt against Dade.

00:59:54.840 And-

00:59:55.440 This guy was actually hammered on the House floor.

00:59:57.880 It would appear from-

00:59:59.300 It would appear.

01:00:00.040 I'm still getting, I'm trying to, I have to work with these people.

01:00:02.720 Let me just say, as a former drunk person, I recognize that.

01:00:08.740 Yeah.

01:00:10.140 So, 67 of us got together.

01:00:13.020 We started cobbling together this coalition.

01:00:16.160 And we got it up to 67 people out of 88 Republicans.

01:00:18.780 So, more than a majority.

01:00:20.680 Yeah.

01:00:21.220 Right?

01:00:21.680 A super, super majority.

01:00:22.780 And then, this little group of Republicans got together with all 62 of the Democrats, and they picked Burroughs.

01:00:32.640 So, yeah, we have, we have a speaker that was picked by the Democrats.

01:00:37.240 So, the Texas House is overwhelmingly Republican, but it's actually run by the Democrats.

01:00:43.800 There are about 40, I would, I would, I would put the number at about 40 strong conservatives out of the 88.

01:00:48.800 But even a sort of tepid conservative, even a rhino, by definition, wouldn't want the Texas House to be run by the other party.

01:00:59.420 Of course not.

01:00:59.740 Yet, they do.

01:01:00.460 Do you think the Democrats would abide by this?

01:01:02.560 Do you think the Democrats, if they were in the majority, would include any of us on their team?

01:01:07.520 No, of course not.

01:01:08.680 Elections have consequences.

01:01:11.020 And also, the people should have a say.

01:01:12.720 So, if the majority of the state votes for Republican leadership, you should have it, because that's called democracy.

01:01:18.600 It's about responding to what the citizenry, the owners of the United States want in the administration of their government.

01:01:25.500 And they're getting, once again, the opposite of what they voted for.

01:01:29.900 And on every issue, they get the opposite.

01:01:32.560 There's never been one public opinion poll in the last two years that said, number one issue for me is Ukraine.

01:01:37.800 And yet, all the money is going to Ukraine or to all these other foreign countries.

01:01:40.840 It's like, why are we giving all this money to Egypt?

01:01:42.800 Egypt, is there some, are there a lot of people in your district who are like, we need to add another billion dollars to the Egyptian foreign aid budget this year?

01:01:51.200 It's a big issue.

01:01:52.360 Yeah.

01:01:52.760 It's a lemonade stands and everything else.

01:01:54.280 We're all working hard for Egypt.

01:01:56.140 I mean, what?

01:01:57.460 So, I just feel like, well, let me ask you, do you feel like we're at a point where people are becoming, I'm feeling way more radical than I've ever felt in my life.

01:02:07.460 That's just no one's listening.

01:02:08.820 Right.

01:02:09.540 Thank you.

01:02:09.920 No one's listening.

01:02:10.980 And we just, after a while, you just get frustrated and angry over it.

01:02:14.440 Yes.

01:02:14.760 It's the sincere people who are the most angry, right?

01:02:19.300 Because the cynical people never expected a real system in the first place.

01:02:23.860 The only skin that they have in the game is their patriotism.

01:02:28.000 There's nothing financially in it for them at all.

01:02:31.200 It's just love of country.

01:02:33.020 It's just, Tucker, it's just love of country.

01:02:35.340 Yes.

01:02:36.200 So, that's why I wanted to talk to you.

01:02:38.080 And I'll just be honest.

01:02:39.400 I think you turned out to be one of the most sincere, thoughtful politicians I've talked to in a long time.

01:02:44.520 That's because I'm not a politician.

01:02:46.360 So, I'm glad.

01:02:47.980 In fact, my wife, when you hang out with me, my bet will be like, you know, you can't hang out with Steve if you call him representative.

01:02:55.440 Well, but the real reason I want to talk to you is I don't want Dan Crenshaw to get reelected, not because I hate Dan Crenshaw or think he's actually going to make good on his promise to kill me.

01:03:04.500 I don't think he's going to.

01:03:06.340 It's not personal.

01:03:07.300 It really isn't.

01:03:07.900 It's just that if you keep electing people who are transparently corrupt and insincere, like Dan Crenshaw, then after a while, like, your country falls apart.

01:03:19.640 Not because he's so bad, but because it's such an obvious lie.

01:03:23.800 I guess that's what I'm trying to express.

01:03:26.400 Do you worry about that?

01:03:27.740 I think it's, I think cynicism is, is the greatest threat to our country.

01:03:35.120 Yes.

01:03:36.120 And scripture says where there is no hope, people perish.

01:03:42.440 Yeah.

01:03:42.540 And that's where we're at today in America.

01:03:45.840 And I think one of the things that I love about Trump, and I think the reason why people have overwhelmingly flocked to Trump is Trump leads with actions and not words.

01:03:56.740 He, he, he leads with words to, um, um, to, to capture the news cycle.

01:04:06.280 Right.

01:04:06.800 Yes.

01:04:07.040 But he doesn't use those words to do anything other than to throw the mainstream media off.

01:04:13.020 He leads with action.

01:04:14.460 And that's what we want out of our leaders.

01:04:16.660 We want people that are going to lead with action and not rhetoric.

01:04:20.000 We're tired of the rhetoric.

01:04:21.340 Absolutely tired of the rhetoric.

01:04:23.100 It's hollow.

01:04:23.580 It's empty.

01:04:24.180 It's useless.

01:04:26.460 Incumbents almost always get reelected, especially from Republican districts, it feels.

01:04:32.100 Maybe not especially, but they definitely, Republicans, bad Republicans.

01:04:35.240 I know.

01:04:35.560 John Cornyn, multiple terms in the Senate.

01:04:37.800 I can think of probably another 40 Republican office holders.

01:04:41.660 It's like, how did you get reelected?

01:04:43.500 Um, particularly in Republican states.

01:04:45.500 Right.

01:04:45.900 You know, in Idaho and this all through the, the deep South, they reelect people with litter with Alzheimer's.

01:04:53.740 It's crazy.

01:04:54.220 Um, how hard will it be to unseat Dan Crenshaw?

01:04:59.520 It's going to be a lot of work.

01:05:01.340 We've had a lot of people coming to my website, stevetothforcongress.com or just stevetoth.com.

01:05:08.020 Um, both work, but, um, it's been pretty cool.

01:05:10.740 We've, we've had people from all over the United States, um, contributing the widow's mite, 10 bucks, 15 bucks.

01:05:18.040 It's so, it's so amazing.

01:05:19.580 Yeah.

01:05:19.800 Um, and, um, um, this is doable, but the biggest problem, Tucker, is that there, there's, there's just like this belief, well, they're, they're a sitting member.

01:05:30.400 They can't be beat.

01:05:31.420 Yes, they can.

01:05:32.580 We've proven it.

01:05:33.460 We've, we've seen it.

01:05:34.360 We've shown it that when you, when you mobilize as a, as a community against these guys, you can take them out.

01:05:40.700 Yes.

01:05:41.960 I just think it, it would be an important statement about democracy and that it still can work.

01:05:48.140 I've wanted to talk to Crenshaw, put in a million interview requests.

01:05:51.960 He will not do an interview, period, except with a moderator.

01:05:57.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:05:58.140 Um, I'd love to talk to Clifford Asnes, his main, uh, funder, the guy who's like publicly defended short selling, um, sleaze, true sleazeball.

01:06:08.040 Of course, he would never talk to me, but I would like to, I would just, I would like to know how someone like Crenshaw could get reelected.

01:06:17.180 Like who would support him?

01:06:18.200 Do you feel support for him in the district?

01:06:20.360 It's not there.

01:06:21.440 Just, it's not there.

01:06:22.660 Um, so we did, uh, we did a meet and greet in his neighborhood on Saturday and the place was packed.

01:06:31.540 In his neighborhood where he lives?

01:06:33.060 In his neighborhood where he lives.

01:06:34.520 And, um, it was just, I walked away so encouraged with the support that we got.

01:06:41.320 And it's just, it's really exciting.

01:06:43.440 It's going to be a lot of work.

01:06:44.360 I mean, you know, he outspent his opponent two years ago, 120 to one, and the guy got 42% against him.

01:06:51.680 And, um, so when that happens, there's blood in the water and it attracts a lot of people, but we're the only ones that have launched a really legitimate campaign against him where we're going to be able to raise the money necessary.

01:07:05.180 We're going to be outspent.

01:07:07.220 We get that.

01:07:08.720 Really?

01:07:09.440 Oh yeah.

01:07:09.960 I mean, just the amount of support that he's going to get from the lobby is just off the charts.

01:07:14.880 But I can't ever think Tucker of a time when I haven't been outspent two or three to one, um, in one.

01:07:21.540 So we're, we're okay with it.

01:07:23.040 And we're going to beat him and, um, we're just going to work really hard.

01:07:25.760 When's the primary?

01:07:26.960 March 3rd of next year.

01:07:28.620 March 3rd.

01:07:29.020 Yeah.

01:07:29.380 So the district is overwhelmingly Republican.

01:07:32.280 Completely.

01:07:33.320 Okay.

01:07:33.560 So whoever wins the primary.

01:07:35.620 Will win the general.

01:07:36.460 Will win the general.

01:07:37.240 How many people are in the primary, do you think?

01:07:39.820 Do you expect?

01:07:41.000 Um, we're, we're pressing for a roughly 160,000 votes.

01:07:45.300 No, I mean, how many candidates, how many people are running against him?

01:07:49.580 Um, I think there are about five in right now, five or six.

01:07:53.460 Really?

01:07:53.980 Yeah.

01:07:54.300 And more will get in.

01:07:55.680 More will get in.

01:07:56.300 It just, it happens.

01:07:57.940 And how does that work?

01:07:59.180 Is it the guy who gets the most votes or is it their runoff?

01:08:02.240 You have to get, you have to get 50%.

01:08:03.740 Yeah.

01:08:04.660 Or, or it goes into a runoff.

01:08:06.840 Oh, wow.

01:08:07.860 So if you're Karl Rove or Clifford Esnes or some lobby, foreign lobby, you have every

01:08:14.720 incentive to get as many people into this race as possible.

01:08:17.100 Correct.

01:08:17.940 Right.

01:08:18.240 Correct.

01:08:18.640 But we're already hearing from people in it that have come to me and said, you've got

01:08:23.620 the best chance of winning.

01:08:25.440 I'm probably going to drop out before the filing period.

01:08:27.700 So the filing period hasn't even opened yet.

01:08:29.860 You're just allowed to pick a treasurer and say that you're running for Congress and make

01:08:33.580 a statement.

01:08:34.860 But, um, the filing period hasn't even opened yet.

01:08:37.140 And we think a lot of them are going to drop out.

01:08:38.780 I've got great relationships with a lot of the people that are in it right now.

01:08:41.720 Yeah.

01:08:42.240 And they feel like, you know, you've got the best chance to beat them and we want to help

01:08:45.940 you.

01:08:46.220 So.

01:08:46.660 I, I mean, the reason I want to talk to you is I haven't talked to a lot of people in Texas

01:08:49.920 about it just because I think it's so important to make good on your promises.

01:08:54.620 If you say you're going to put America first, you have to have people who are willing to

01:08:57.820 put America first.

01:08:58.000 Amen.

01:08:59.060 Um, and we need it badly, so badly.

01:09:01.240 Uh, and everybody I've spoken to has said you have the best shot at unseating him.

01:09:06.560 I, this is not directly related to you, but since you swim in the same pool, where is

01:09:10.780 Cornyn's reelection right now?

01:09:12.260 Would you say, how would you assess that?

01:09:13.920 He, he's in, he is in real trouble.

01:09:16.400 So we've been looking at his numbers as well.

01:09:19.100 Um, his numbers are not as bad as Dan Crenshaw's numbers, but they're bad.

01:09:23.160 How bad are Crenshaw's numbers?

01:09:25.080 He's at 43% unfavorable in Harris County, 44% unfavorable in Montgomery County.

01:09:31.360 44%?

01:09:32.480 44%.

01:09:32.840 Yeah.

01:09:33.660 Yeah.

01:09:34.600 Yeah.

01:09:35.040 Wow.

01:09:35.560 That's really high.

01:09:36.900 That's really high.

01:09:37.440 And I think Cornyn's about three points below that, but that's still bad, right?

01:09:41.360 So, I mean, you typically people that have unfavorable numbers above 40% don't even run for

01:09:46.240 re-election.

01:09:46.640 Interesting.

01:09:49.200 So Cornyn, who hates Trump, obviously hates Trump.

01:09:53.460 Right.

01:09:54.140 Um, has always hated Trump.

01:09:55.860 He, he's like sucking up to Trump now, right?

01:09:58.380 It's sick.

01:09:59.340 Really?

01:09:59.940 It's just sick to watch it.

01:10:01.520 Yeah.

01:10:01.600 What's he doing?

01:10:02.700 Um, this is so funny.

01:10:05.000 So a couple months ago, there's a picture in, in Acts of him reading The Art of the Deal.

01:10:11.240 And it, and it, just above it, it says, what a great read.

01:10:16.300 And then, and then-

01:10:17.720 John Cornyn, who's like, wants nothing more than to like be accepted into some club.

01:10:22.740 Yeah.

01:10:23.200 You know what I mean?

01:10:23.880 And then, and then a month or two later, he's got a picture of him outside.

01:10:27.300 There's a, there's a, a restaurant in Texas called Trump Burger.

01:10:31.040 And he's outside the restaurant with the, the marquee behind him.

01:10:34.080 And he's holding a, uh, you know, a Trump, Trump burger in his hands.

01:10:39.360 No way.

01:10:41.780 It's just so silly.

01:10:43.340 Cornyn, who dresses like, uh, JP Morgan, vice president, you know, he's like a big Trump

01:10:49.100 guy now.

01:10:49.780 Yeah.

01:10:50.020 Do people fall for that?

01:10:51.160 No.

01:10:51.940 No.

01:10:52.360 They don't.

01:10:53.460 So he's running against Ken Paxton is in the race.

01:10:56.900 Um, are there others?

01:10:58.740 Um, that's it so far.

01:11:01.380 That's it right now.

01:11:03.180 You got to think, I mean, I'm, so Karl Rove tried to take out Ken Paxton, your attorney

01:11:07.880 general, uh, in a, in a, I mean, tried to put him in jail, basically helped run this

01:11:13.420 impeachment against him trial.

01:11:16.500 Uh, is he involved in the Senate race?

01:11:18.620 Do you think?

01:11:19.280 I think he will be.

01:11:20.500 He was sure involved in trying to take Ken Paxton out.

01:11:22.720 There is no doubt about it.

01:11:23.660 Not just take him out, but imprison him.

01:11:25.040 Oh my gosh.

01:11:25.640 So that impeachment was the biggest scam.

01:11:28.200 Should have been the biggest embarrassment.

01:11:29.680 Embarrassment is, I think it is the, it will go down in history as the biggest embarrassment

01:11:34.280 of the Texas legislature at the Texas house.

01:11:37.140 And I was so proud of the way the Texas Senate stepped up very seriously deliberate, deliberative

01:11:43.240 every, every single charge against him.

01:11:46.460 Um, they put it to the test and we rushed, we literally rushed it through in 24 hours.

01:11:53.840 We were given, we were given this 60 page document to read of the charges against Paxton.

01:12:00.640 No witnesses were called for their side.

01:12:05.440 None of the, none of the, um, witnesses were sworn in, which is a violation of the Texas

01:12:11.540 constitution.

01:12:13.220 Um, this is exactly what Karl Rove and Eric Holder did to the Alabama pro-life governor

01:12:19.920 20, 30 years ago.

01:12:21.480 They took him out, threw him in jail and it was later found out to be all, you know,

01:12:27.860 all, all nothing.

01:12:28.840 It was a big nothing burger and, um, he was set free, but he, it destroyed him, right?

01:12:33.780 It destroyed his life.

01:12:34.780 It destroyed his political career.

01:12:37.220 Um, it took everything away from the man and they tried to do the same thing to Ken and

01:12:41.240 it was just absolutely.

01:12:42.820 And Ken's real sin, even if you disagree with Paxton, you have to say he's been very effective.

01:12:48.640 Oh my gosh.

01:12:49.300 He's been incredibly effective.

01:12:50.400 Right.

01:12:50.800 So that's, that's the crime right there.

01:12:52.600 That is the crime.

01:12:53.680 It's not just getting up and being like, oh, I'm a war hero.

01:12:56.780 I have an eye patch.

01:12:57.600 You know, I'm going to drain the swamp, but actually doing something.

01:13:00.900 He actually did it.

01:13:01.800 And Ken, you know, like to know Ken is to know that Ken's not like the most articulate,

01:13:06.860 charismatic speaker in the world.

01:13:08.340 No.

01:13:08.740 He's anything but that.

01:13:10.620 And so.

01:13:10.840 I like him more for that, actually.

01:13:12.160 I know.

01:13:12.460 It just, he bleeds with his actions.

01:13:16.420 Hmm.

01:13:17.280 Um, interesting.

01:13:19.400 It sounds like, how influential were the Bushes still in Texas politics?

01:13:24.420 I think they're very influential still.

01:13:28.100 Still.

01:13:28.680 Yeah.

01:13:29.420 But I think it, it, I think it mainly, it's mainly through Karl Rove.

01:13:33.540 Um, they don't support the president.

01:13:36.620 They refuse to support Trump, which is an embarrassment, should be an embarrassment to

01:13:42.160 them at their lack of support and everything that he's doing for our country right now.

01:13:45.680 How can you look, how can't you look at everything that Trump is doing right now and

01:13:50.100 say, um, what he's doing with the border, um, what he's doing with Doge, what he's doing

01:13:56.140 with public education and on and on and on.

01:13:58.920 And look at it.

01:13:59.340 How can you not look at that and just say, wow, this is all the crap that you guys said

01:14:02.440 that you were going to do.

01:14:03.660 He just did it.

01:14:05.020 Like you said, you want to do away with the department of education because of the way

01:14:09.340 they're destroying public education in America.

01:14:11.540 He's, he's doing it.

01:14:13.300 You want to root out the corruption through, um, um, these government agencies that are

01:14:20.520 blindly giving money to other Democrats so that they can, they, they literally are funneling

01:14:25.060 and laundering money through the United States government.

01:14:27.480 Um, these, these different organizations that, that Doge has uncovered more, I mean, specifically

01:14:35.200 USAID, right?

01:14:36.640 Yep.

01:14:37.120 USAID was the piggy bank for the Democrat party and act blue.

01:14:40.280 And that's why the Democrats are angry about it because you took their funding source away.

01:14:46.040 Everyone knew it.

01:14:47.340 Everyone knew that that was going on.

01:14:49.240 Trump's the only one that had the stones to get up and, and just do it.

01:14:53.040 Do you not care about America?

01:14:54.440 You don't care about America.

01:14:56.120 These politicians don't care about America.

01:14:58.220 They call themselves Republicans.

01:14:59.460 They don't care about the Republic.

01:15:01.040 They care about sustaining power and keeping their own little click in control.

01:15:05.220 That's all they care about.

01:15:06.200 What's it like to go to work in the Texas state house?

01:15:10.020 Um, you know, as a Truman then said, if you want a friend, go buy a dog.

01:15:14.020 Yeah.

01:15:14.880 It's kind of like what it's like.

01:15:16.800 And it's, it's hard.

01:15:18.260 It's difficult.

01:15:18.860 And so I've been, I've been blessed in that.

01:15:20.920 I don't go there alone.

01:15:22.500 I don't, I don't live alone.

01:15:24.200 I don't go anywhere alone.

01:15:26.060 Um, they'll destroy you if you live alone.

01:15:28.260 They'll accuse you.

01:15:29.100 They'll accuse you of everything and anything.

01:15:31.380 I live, um, this past session with Nate Schastlein.

01:15:34.500 Nate's a.

01:15:35.040 Wait, wait, wait.

01:15:35.660 Back up just for one sec.

01:15:36.740 Sure.

01:15:37.020 What do you, what do you mean if you live alone?

01:15:39.020 So your session is how, how long is the session?

01:15:42.340 We're in session for five months every two years.

01:15:44.500 Right.

01:15:44.940 January through May and then specials.

01:15:46.380 So you live north of Houston, but you have to go down to Austin for the session.

01:15:50.920 You got to live there.

01:15:51.800 You got to live there.

01:15:52.900 If you live alone, they, why does it matter if you live alone?

01:15:56.160 Oh, they'll accuse you of something or they'll set you up with something.

01:15:59.060 Weird sex stuff.

01:16:00.700 Yep.

01:16:01.560 For real?

01:16:02.480 For real.

01:16:03.520 And I'm convinced that's how a lot of guys have gotten into trouble.

01:16:06.960 Individuals that I know that came there with the best intentions to do the right thing

01:16:11.600 and now are just part of the problem.

01:16:14.680 Are you serious?

01:16:16.200 Completely.

01:16:17.840 Of course you are.

01:16:19.120 Yeah.

01:16:20.020 I, yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

01:16:23.440 Also, it's not, it's not wise for a man to live alone for five months.

01:16:30.820 I mean.

01:16:31.000 It's not, it's just, it's, it's stupid.

01:16:33.660 It is stupid.

01:16:34.360 I totally agree with that.

01:16:35.800 Let's, let's stop lying.

01:16:37.380 Yeah.

01:16:37.680 About the way men are.

01:16:38.880 Wow.

01:16:39.200 That's so, is that widely known?

01:16:41.240 Oh, I think it is.

01:16:42.040 Yeah.

01:16:42.400 I mean, you, there's a, you know, there's a lot of gossip and stuff, but.

01:16:46.880 But, you know, and, and I feel badly because I, I feel like there are some really good

01:16:52.740 people that get accused of it where it's not true.

01:16:56.100 Mm-hmm.

01:16:56.860 And, um, I feel badly for them, but that's, you know, that's what you sign up for when

01:17:02.940 you go to Texas.

01:17:03.400 But it's a means of control.

01:17:04.740 It's a leash that someone is yanking to keep people in line.

01:17:07.620 Yeah.

01:17:07.700 Yeah.

01:17:07.920 Completely.

01:17:09.200 And so you think there are people who arrived with the intent of doing good,

01:17:14.940 driving the swamp.

01:17:16.340 Yeah.

01:17:16.820 Representing their constituents who were caught up in some sort of immoral behavior.

01:17:22.160 And that has been used as leverage against them.

01:17:24.280 Yeah.

01:17:24.920 Yes.

01:17:25.260 I believe that completely.

01:17:26.840 Really?

01:17:27.420 I, I, so I just, I make a point of just, I don't, you know, if, if I, if I go to an event,

01:17:32.500 I don't, I don't drink.

01:17:34.020 I quit drinking, um, back in 2019.

01:17:37.740 It didn't serve me.

01:17:39.780 Yes.

01:17:39.980 It doesn't do anything for you.

01:17:41.940 I, you know, I, my wife and I would have a glass of wine or two.

01:17:44.940 At dinner, but I just completely gave it up.

01:17:47.140 Oh, you weren't like a slobbering drunk.

01:17:48.560 You just.

01:17:49.060 No.

01:17:49.980 Um, I, I'm a cheap date.

01:17:53.180 So I just, no, I just, but I, I, I never wanted to be seen with, you know, with beer

01:18:00.100 or wine in my hand.

01:18:01.000 I just, it doesn't serve you at all in any way, shape or form.

01:18:05.880 I agree completely.

01:18:07.600 Strongly.

01:18:08.300 Uh, yeah.

01:18:10.500 Good for you.

01:18:11.380 So, but you, but when you showed up in Austin for your first session, you were aware that

01:18:15.900 you could be subverted.

01:18:17.320 I, I don't think I was as aware then.

01:18:19.860 You know, you'd heard about stuff.

01:18:21.760 Is that really true?

01:18:23.480 That can't be true.

01:18:24.920 These guys are really good.

01:18:25.840 They're Republicans.

01:18:26.780 They wouldn't do that.

01:18:29.120 I was completely naive when I first came in.

01:18:32.040 Like 40 of us showed up.

01:18:33.820 We had this group called the no-name group.

01:18:35.920 We're like, they're going to be so happy that we're here.

01:18:38.500 And they're going to love us.

01:18:41.040 Otis, he loves us.

01:18:43.100 They're going to love us because we're true.

01:18:45.360 We're fighting Republicans.

01:18:46.920 They're going to love us.

01:18:48.220 No.

01:18:49.680 They scorned us.

01:18:51.380 Really?

01:18:52.120 They being the Republicans who were already there.

01:18:54.220 Yeah.

01:18:54.820 Yeah.

01:18:55.500 And then no time flat.

01:18:58.260 In fact, I can remember one of them said,

01:19:00.340 we were called for such a time as this,

01:19:05.260 quoting Esther, the book of Esther.

01:19:06.720 Of course.

01:19:07.540 And the reason why they hate us now,

01:19:09.660 this is what we,

01:19:10.360 this is what one of them said.

01:19:12.600 The reason why they hate us is because they,

01:19:14.800 we remind them of what they used to be.

01:19:18.140 And like,

01:19:18.880 I look at most of those guys that said that and shook their head like I am

01:19:23.200 and say, yeah, and that's who you are now.

01:19:25.640 You've,

01:19:26.100 you've got,

01:19:28.040 you've turned.

01:19:28.940 You're not with us anymore.

01:19:30.160 How long ago was that?

01:19:32.280 That was in 2013.

01:19:34.160 When I,

01:19:34.420 I came into 2013,

01:19:36.200 served for two years,

01:19:36.960 then I left for four years.

01:19:38.720 And then I came back in 2019.

01:19:40.560 But the guys who stayed?

01:19:42.640 Most of them went bad.

01:19:45.180 Really?

01:19:46.500 So what,

01:19:47.460 apart from sexual blackmail,

01:19:49.120 which you've said is real and I believe you,

01:19:51.300 what are the other means by which good people become bad people?

01:19:56.240 You want,

01:19:57.120 you want to be effective,

01:19:59.260 don't you?

01:20:00.500 Tucker,

01:20:01.020 you're here to serve your,

01:20:01.980 your district.

01:20:02.860 You want to be effective,

01:20:03.940 don't you?

01:20:04.940 Well,

01:20:05.300 you're going to be in the penalty box if you don't become part of the

01:20:08.100 speaker's team.

01:20:09.840 And if you're in the penalty box,

01:20:11.260 you can't pass any legislation.

01:20:12.600 And I'm kind of an outlier in that I get really lucky.

01:20:18.420 Like I passed some legislation.

01:20:20.540 As an example,

01:20:22.120 I picked up a bill to take on critical race theory and no one had even heard of it when I carried the bill.

01:20:28.820 And then a guy by the name of Dick Weakley from Texans for Lawsuit Reform heard about my bill.

01:20:36.700 And Dick's daughter is,

01:20:38.700 is a passionate follower of Christ.

01:20:41.500 Allison.

01:20:41.940 And Dick is a good man.

01:20:43.660 And he,

01:20:43.820 he,

01:20:44.040 and he got behind my bill.

01:20:45.880 Yeah.

01:20:46.400 And by God's grace.

01:20:47.760 And I care,

01:20:49.120 I,

01:20:49.300 I carried that bill in the 87th session.

01:20:52.960 We passed it into law.

01:20:54.160 It was the best one in the United States.

01:20:56.440 And so,

01:20:57.280 you know,

01:20:57.700 I got that done and it's like,

01:20:59.340 I came home and I said to Babette,

01:21:00.900 I said,

01:21:01.820 we didn't sell out.

01:21:03.360 God proved to me that he could still use me and I didn't have to sell out to do it.

01:21:08.580 And I,

01:21:09.100 it just,

01:21:09.460 it made me more passionate that,

01:21:12.060 um,

01:21:13.040 with God,

01:21:13.980 there's a way to get things done and he can still use you.

01:21:16.860 You don't,

01:21:17.180 you don't have to sell your soul to these people.

01:21:18.840 These people are evil.

01:21:20.560 They don't want to do the right thing.

01:21:21.960 They're not concerned about doing the right thing.

01:21:23.380 They're just concerned about holding onto power.

01:21:26.860 But it's interesting that they,

01:21:28.480 they say right to you,

01:21:29.740 you want to be effective.

01:21:30.740 So they appeal really to your best instincts because you do any good man wants to be effective.

01:21:35.640 Right.

01:21:36.640 So it's there.

01:21:37.540 They don't come to you and say,

01:21:38.800 Hey,

01:21:39.020 I've got like hookers and cash for you.

01:21:42.160 They say,

01:21:42.960 no,

01:21:44.280 you,

01:21:44.660 we can help you be the person you want to be.

01:21:47.620 Right.

01:21:48.320 You want to be effective.

01:21:49.460 Don't you?

01:21:50.120 Yeah.

01:21:50.360 In fact,

01:21:51.060 a couple of people that were going to vote with us,

01:21:56.880 left us at the last,

01:21:58.280 like one,

01:21:58.760 one guy,

01:21:59.900 um,

01:22:00.520 he left,

01:22:01.520 he was going to vote for David Cook.

01:22:04.000 And,

01:22:04.440 um,

01:22:04.900 he came in with me as a freshman.

01:22:06.400 David Cook for speaker.

01:22:07.300 For speaker.

01:22:08.240 And the last second he switched over and voted for Burroughs.

01:22:11.420 I said,

01:22:11.700 why'd you do that?

01:22:13.240 I mean,

01:22:13.480 I knew.

01:22:14.780 And he said,

01:22:15.360 he voted with the Democrats.

01:22:16.440 Yeah.

01:22:17.020 I wanted to be effective for my district.

01:22:18.360 And he ended up getting a chairmanship committee chairmanship,

01:22:21.780 which these guys love getting committee chairmanships.

01:22:24.720 They love being called chairman outside their office.

01:22:27.880 You know,

01:22:28.200 it says Steve Toth,

01:22:30.360 um,

01:22:31.240 house district 15.

01:22:32.280 And it shows the committees that you serve on.

01:22:34.740 Well,

01:22:35.240 for those guys,

01:22:36.000 it's chairman.

01:22:38.400 That's like a big deal.

01:22:40.380 And these guys love,

01:22:42.220 you know,

01:22:43.140 the,

01:22:43.480 the being called chairman in the Texas house.

01:22:46.160 It's just,

01:22:47.000 it's,

01:22:47.860 it's such a,

01:22:48.680 you know,

01:22:49.120 it's just such an ego boost.

01:22:51.740 Do they end up getting anything done once they make that deal?

01:22:56.800 No,

01:22:57.540 you pass some legislation,

01:22:58.860 but you sell a little bit of your soul in the midst of it.

01:23:02.240 It's a transaction.

01:23:04.200 And then you just become with time more corrupt once you've been corrupted.

01:23:08.580 It's just,

01:23:08.860 it's a,

01:23:09.180 it's such a slow,

01:23:10.240 Tucker,

01:23:10.680 it's such a slow process.

01:23:12.220 For some guys,

01:23:12.860 it happens a lot quicker than others,

01:23:14.880 but it's,

01:23:15.740 it's a slow process where you just lose your soul.

01:23:19.600 That's so dark.

01:23:21.480 Yeah.

01:23:22.380 Does anyone ever come back?

01:23:26.120 No.

01:23:27.740 I,

01:23:28.180 I can't even,

01:23:29.040 I can't ever think of a time when I've seen somebody that's gone over and said,

01:23:32.680 wow,

01:23:33.320 I blew it.

01:23:35.820 I mean,

01:23:35.980 I've seen,

01:23:36.440 I've seen guys that have had a bad vote that have come back next session said,

01:23:41.920 gosh,

01:23:42.300 that was a stupid vote.

01:23:44.200 I was part of their team,

01:23:45.960 but they hadn't sold their soul.

01:23:47.560 They just,

01:23:48.280 they made a bad vote.

01:23:49.600 And then they come back the next session.

01:23:52.260 Yeah,

01:23:52.720 I've seen that,

01:23:53.620 but not none that have fully gone over,

01:23:56.360 become chairman.

01:23:57.020 And lost their soul and come back.

01:23:59.680 No.

01:23:59.860 Have you ever seen a really honest man of integrity get rewarded for that,

01:24:07.840 become chairman of a committee?

01:24:08.940 No,

01:24:11.160 we're not.

01:24:12.320 They,

01:24:12.840 they,

01:24:13.020 they want you to become,

01:24:17.140 they absolutely want you to go there and lose your sense of conviction,

01:24:23.600 your holy discontent that you,

01:24:25.240 you come there with to change.

01:24:27.140 They don't want you to change anything.

01:24:28.600 You're willing,

01:24:31.940 your,

01:24:32.080 your desire to change is what puts them in jeopardy of losing their,

01:24:35.220 their authority and their power.

01:24:37.980 They cut,

01:24:38.700 these guys cut deals.

01:24:39.760 And if you're going to,

01:24:40.260 if you're going to push for legislation,

01:24:41.560 if you're going to push,

01:24:43.800 if I want,

01:24:44.940 I want to transform the way we do elections in Texas.

01:24:47.260 So I want us to be able to audit.

01:24:50.040 We have to,

01:24:50.860 once there's an election,

01:24:51.520 you have to hold onto the data for 22 months.

01:24:54.620 But unfortunately,

01:24:55.620 Tucker,

01:24:55.860 we don't have the ability to audit any of it.

01:24:58.280 So why,

01:24:58.880 why do you hold on election material for 22 months?

01:25:01.040 If you can't audit it to find out if there's been corruption.

01:25:03.460 So I,

01:25:03.720 I don't know.

01:25:04.500 I'm just guessing,

01:25:05.300 but I've just seen this a lot.

01:25:07.720 Basically that was legislation.

01:25:09.720 I'm guessing that was passed to protect corruption,

01:25:13.780 but it sounds in the telling,

01:25:15.840 like a good government move,

01:25:19.580 like it,

01:25:19.960 it was designed to,

01:25:21.520 expose corruption.

01:25:22.340 So in other words,

01:25:22.660 like under my election integrity bill,

01:25:25.040 every candidate will have to hold that data for 22 months.

01:25:28.940 What they don't tell you is.

01:25:30.540 They can't look at it.

01:25:32.520 It remains secret for two years.

01:25:35.340 Yeah.

01:25:35.520 And so myself and Paul Betancourt,

01:25:37.400 Senator Betancourt have introduced legislation that the president supports,

01:25:41.740 fully supports.

01:25:42.440 And these guys know it.

01:25:43.800 The Republicans all know it.

01:25:45.740 But what's the piece of legislation that Democrats say when they're going to get

01:25:50.460 behind a speaker,

01:25:51.160 they're like,

01:25:51.860 there are these things that are not going to pass this year.

01:25:55.720 Toast legislation on,

01:25:57.220 on doing,

01:25:57.760 and Betancourt's legislation on,

01:25:59.500 on doing audits.

01:26:00.720 And the transition of kids.

01:26:04.500 So like I had a,

01:26:05.660 I had a bill this year,

01:26:07.100 house bill 2258.

01:26:08.240 I think it was 2258.

01:26:09.160 I had like 70 piece legislation,

01:26:10.900 but they sent it to Ken King's committee where Ken King killed the bill.

01:26:15.420 I had three members of his committee that became joint authors on the bill to stop the social

01:26:21.300 transition of children.

01:26:23.040 And they never gave the bill a hearing.

01:26:25.060 Why would a Republican want to protect like the destruction of children through transgender

01:26:31.820 ideology?

01:26:32.720 Like why would a Republican be in favor of that?

01:26:35.560 I don't think they are.

01:26:36.640 I think they basically are against it,

01:26:39.020 but they compromise and say,

01:26:42.060 the only way I can do good things for my,

01:26:43.860 for my people back home is if I maintain my chairmanship.

01:26:46.500 And the only way I can maintain my chairmanship is to cut a deal with Democrats.

01:26:50.120 And Democrats don't want this piece of legislation to pass.

01:26:53.420 And so they kill it.

01:26:54.780 They just kill it.

01:26:57.500 But,

01:26:58.480 um,

01:26:59.300 we turned it into an amendment and,

01:27:01.880 um,

01:27:02.200 we stuck it on a Senate bill 12 at the end of session.

01:27:05.100 And now social transition of kids is illegal in the state of Texas.

01:27:09.060 Nice.

01:27:09.620 So was that,

01:27:10.620 um,

01:27:11.380 distressing to Republicans?

01:27:14.700 Um,

01:27:15.540 here's the hard part about it is that we knew that we were going to try and pass it as an

01:27:20.340 amendment.

01:27:21.460 And so I didn't make a big deal about it during session because I didn't want the Democrats

01:27:28.220 to blow it up.

01:27:29.200 I didn't want them to know that we're still going to try and put it on something.

01:27:32.460 So we just stayed kind of quiet,

01:27:33.580 quietly kept looking for the right bill to put it on,

01:27:36.960 found it in Senate bill 12.

01:27:38.820 We worked with that,

01:27:39.740 uh,

01:27:39.940 with Brandon Creighton to make sure that he positioned 12.

01:27:43.300 It's different in Texas than it is in the United States.

01:27:45.340 And that if you're going to pass legislation at the federal level on ice cream,

01:27:48.540 you can't put something on it that has to do with bicycles.

01:27:51.140 Right.

01:27:51.460 They're not germane in Texas,

01:27:53.280 our legislation,

01:27:54.400 um,

01:27:55.640 the amendment has to be absolutely germane to the bill.

01:27:58.400 And so we worked the Senator Creighton quietly behind the scenes to make sure that when the

01:28:02.580 bill came over from the Senate,

01:28:03.800 it,

01:28:05.180 it would.

01:28:05.800 So if,

01:28:06.240 if that bill had come over from the Senate with banning social transition of kids,

01:28:11.620 they would have killed his bill.

01:28:13.880 They never would have let that bill onto the house floor.

01:28:16.940 Um,

01:28:17.340 the,

01:28:17.660 because the,

01:28:18.140 the,

01:28:18.440 the Rhino Republicans and the Democrats would have killed the bill in committee,

01:28:22.720 or they would have killed it in calendars and never would have made it to the house floor.

01:28:27.180 So the bill came over.

01:28:29.060 We,

01:28:29.940 and I was able to put the amendment on it and it,

01:28:31.720 it passed.

01:28:33.840 Wow.

01:28:34.200 It's crazy that in an overwhelmingly Republican legislature,

01:28:39.380 it's that hard to ban something as transparently evil.

01:28:43.520 Absolutely.

01:28:44.320 To the core,

01:28:45.520 evil.

01:28:45.940 Destroying children,

01:28:46.840 like just destroying them.

01:28:48.840 Yeah.

01:28:49.760 So last question,

01:28:51.340 I just want,

01:28:52.040 as a lover of Texas and,

01:28:53.720 you know,

01:28:54.280 some of a lot of family in Texas,

01:28:55.340 I go to Texas a lot.

01:28:56.880 I always wonder if the people who run the state,

01:28:59.380 like drive around the state,

01:29:01.360 just look around.

01:29:02.460 Cause the last time I was in Texas,

01:29:04.080 a couple of months ago in Dallas,

01:29:05.380 which is a city I really love.

01:29:07.300 Dirty.

01:29:08.080 It was getting dirtier.

01:29:09.360 I mean,

01:29:09.660 it's just noticeable.

01:29:10.740 And I guess some people do like,

01:29:12.700 do they notice that the state needs attention?

01:29:16.240 Um,

01:29:16.640 honestly don't know.

01:29:18.120 I,

01:29:18.560 do people talk about that?

01:29:19.900 No,

01:29:20.260 not at all.

01:29:21.400 Uh-uh.

01:29:22.420 Not,

01:29:22.820 not at all.

01:29:23.340 It's one of the reasons I dislike Crenshaw so intensely.

01:29:25.220 It's like,

01:29:25.660 do you notice that this is degrading?

01:29:28.620 Like the,

01:29:29.200 the physical environment that you live in is not as nice as it was 10 years ago.

01:29:33.920 Like that's kind of a concern.

01:29:35.140 It should have not be.

01:29:35.880 The hardest part of what,

01:29:37.300 of Austin,

01:29:38.460 Texas,

01:29:38.880 and I,

01:29:39.280 I believe Washington,

01:29:40.280 DC is pretty much the same thing.

01:29:42.180 The very first time I stepped into the Texas house,

01:29:44.780 it was about a month before I was sworn in.

01:29:46.780 And I had never met any staffers,

01:29:50.900 had never talked to anybody.

01:29:52.360 No one knew who I was.

01:29:53.520 They said,

01:29:54.820 representative,

01:29:55.820 so good to see you.

01:29:57.840 Another person says,

01:29:59.040 hey,

01:29:59.380 representative,

01:30:00.080 great to see you.

01:30:00.760 I hear you're a pastor.

01:30:01.820 I am too.

01:30:03.380 Um,

01:30:03.640 hey,

01:30:04.040 representative,

01:30:04.600 you're in this business.

01:30:05.580 So,

01:30:05.740 and it's,

01:30:06.520 they start calling you representative,

01:30:07.800 right?

01:30:07.980 And it's like,

01:30:08.480 they slowly,

01:30:09.660 you know,

01:30:11.220 they slowly pull you in.

01:30:13.160 And I'm telling you,

01:30:14.100 your ego digs it,

01:30:15.760 totally digs it.

01:30:17.140 And after a while,

01:30:18.560 you don't know who you are.

01:30:20.200 You don't know where you are.

01:30:22.180 You just know you want to be part of that.

01:30:25.380 Right?

01:30:26.120 Oh,

01:30:26.300 of course.

01:30:26.680 And you become tone deaf.

01:30:28.980 But since the legislature is in Austin,

01:30:31.300 it's the prettiest legislated building in the country by far.

01:30:35.540 Oh,

01:30:35.660 I know.

01:30:36.120 Pink Granite.

01:30:36.980 Is that right?

01:30:37.540 Yeah.

01:30:38.420 Um,

01:30:38.780 when I first went there more than 25 years ago to,

01:30:41.820 for work as a reporter,

01:30:43.120 I was like shocked by how beautiful it was,

01:30:45.940 how cool it was.

01:30:46.740 It had just been restored.

01:30:47.800 And I was shocked by how great Austin was.

01:30:50.880 The Driscoll Hotel.

01:30:52.400 And yeah.

01:30:52.840 And then I went back years later and it's like,

01:30:54.820 you don't even,

01:30:55.220 they're like homeless people sleeping in the vestibule of the,

01:30:57.660 of the Driscoll Hotel.

01:30:59.240 Sixth Street is dangerous.

01:31:01.300 Sixth Street is a mess.

01:31:02.600 But it was so cool.

01:31:04.220 Yeah.

01:31:04.360 So I'm not a Texan.

01:31:06.020 I'm just a perennial visitor.

01:31:07.680 And I noticed that.

01:31:09.000 I wonder,

01:31:09.460 do the people who go to work at the Capitol building,

01:31:11.720 do they notice that?

01:31:13.200 So.

01:31:13.700 Do they talk about that?

01:31:14.320 Yeah.

01:31:14.580 We actually have,

01:31:15.900 Texas,

01:31:16.600 Austin has actually gotten a little bit cleaner.

01:31:18.440 Yeah,

01:31:18.540 it has.

01:31:18.980 I've noticed.

01:31:19.240 We passed legislation banning that.

01:31:21.360 We said there are areas where you can't camp.

01:31:25.760 Right?

01:31:26.460 Why should we be able to camp on public land in a city?

01:31:28.460 It's crazy.

01:31:29.640 But the problem is that while we did that for Austin,

01:31:34.660 nothing's being done about Houston.

01:31:37.400 Nothing's being done about Dallas.

01:31:39.120 Nothing's being done about El Paso.

01:31:41.460 And so it's,

01:31:42.580 it's,

01:31:42.960 you know,

01:31:43.120 it's kind of like putting makeup on.

01:31:45.640 And,

01:31:46.200 but at the end of the day,

01:31:48.300 there's still a lot of scars underneath the makeup that are being hidden in Texas.

01:31:52.840 But what's more important than how your constituents are living day to day?

01:31:57.820 It's,

01:31:58.140 I don't know what's more,

01:31:59.040 I don't know why Ukraine or any other country is more important than that.

01:32:02.180 I don't either.

01:32:03.780 It's just,

01:32:04.520 it's a lack of putting America first.

01:32:06.260 And I think people like to say America first.

01:32:08.700 They,

01:32:09.200 they believe in America first,

01:32:10.480 but what does that mean?

01:32:12.380 Yeah.

01:32:12.700 What the hell does that mean?

01:32:13.940 Just care about your own country more than any other country.

01:32:16.120 Yeah.

01:32:17.020 Well,

01:32:17.620 Godspeed.

01:32:18.500 I really appreciate your coming.

01:32:20.280 And I,

01:32:20.780 I,

01:32:21.220 the day that you beat Dan Crenshaw,

01:32:24.200 March 10th?

01:32:25.140 March 3rd.

01:32:25.780 March 3rd.

01:32:27.300 Well,

01:32:27.760 maybe around March 10th,

01:32:28.720 I'll call you to offer congratulations.

01:32:31.260 It'll just be a good day for America.

01:32:33.060 I mean,

01:32:33.680 it'll just be,

01:32:34.900 it'll just remind all of us that the system can still work.

01:32:39.600 It can.

01:32:40.080 It absolutely can.

01:32:41.900 Steve,

01:32:42.340 thank you.

01:32:42.940 Thanks,

01:32:43.180 Tucker.

01:32:44.080 That was awesome.

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01:32:55.640 It's called new commission now.com.

01:32:58.780 And it refers to a new 9-11 commission.

01:33:01.980 So we spent months putting together our 9-11 documentary series.

01:33:06.500 And if there's one thing we learned,

01:33:08.720 it's that in fact,

01:33:10.620 there was foreknowledge of the attacks.

01:33:13.060 People knew.

01:33:14.280 The American public deserves to know.

01:33:16.740 We're shocked actually to learn that,

01:33:18.260 to have that confirmed,

01:33:18.960 but it's true.

01:33:19.440 The evidence is overwhelming.

01:33:20.780 The CIA,

01:33:21.280 for example,

01:33:21.680 knew the hijackers were here in the United States.

01:33:24.100 They knew they were planning an act of terror.

01:33:26.340 In his passport is a visa to go to the United States of America.

01:33:30.700 A foreign national was caught celebrating as the World Trade Center fell

01:33:34.620 and later said he was in New York,

01:33:36.020 quote,

01:33:36.640 to document the event.

01:33:38.700 I didn't know there would be an event to document in the first place

01:33:41.060 because he had foreknowledge.

01:33:42.700 And maybe most amazingly,

01:33:44.720 somebody,

01:33:45.440 an unknown investor,

01:33:46.840 shorted American Airlines and United Airlines,

01:33:49.420 the companies whose planes the attackers used on 9-11,

01:33:52.620 as well as the banks that were inside the Twin Towers just before the attacks.

01:33:56.080 They made money on the 9-11 attacks because they knew they were coming.

01:34:01.360 Who did that?

01:34:02.400 You have to look at the evidence.

01:34:04.640 The U.S. government learned the name of that investor,

01:34:07.800 but never released it.

01:34:10.860 Maybe there's an instant explanation for all this,

01:34:13.380 but there isn't actually.

01:34:14.960 And by the way,

01:34:15.340 it doesn't matter whether there is or not.

01:34:17.340 The public deserves to know what the hell that was.

01:34:20.880 How did people know ahead of time,

01:34:22.400 why was no one ever punished for it?

01:34:24.160 The 9-11 Commission, the original one,

01:34:26.780 was a fraud.

01:34:27.960 It was fake.

01:34:29.600 Its conclusions were written before the investigation.

01:34:32.260 That's true.

01:34:33.220 And it's outrageous.

01:34:34.980 This country needs a new 9-11 Commission,

01:34:37.680 one that actually tells the truth,

01:34:39.360 that tries to get to the bottom of the story.

01:34:41.900 We can't just move on like nothing happened.

01:34:44.460 9-11 Commission is a cover.

01:34:47.300 Something did happen.

01:34:49.180 We need to force a new investigation into 9-11

01:34:52.660 almost 25 years later.

01:34:54.700 Sorry, justice demands it.

01:34:56.900 And if you want that,

01:34:57.960 go to newcommissionnow.com

01:35:00.740 to add your name to our petition.

01:35:02.640 We're not getting paid for this.

01:35:03.680 We're doing this because we really mean it.

01:35:04.960 newcommissionnow.com

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The Tucker Carlson Show - October 06, 2025

Everything You Should Know About Dan Crenshaw, How He Got Rich & Why He’s So in Love With Ukraine

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