The Tucker Carlson Show - May 18, 2026


Ex-Freemason: Possessed Politicians, Demonic Rituals for Power, Secret Societies, and the Occult


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Sean Connery is a writer, actor, producer, and journalist. He's also a Freemason and a member of the Knights Templar and the Knights of the Round Table. In this episode, Sean talks about his journey into the world of Freemasonry and the secrets behind the world s most powerful men.

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00:00:30.000 Sean, thanks for doing this. It dawned on me the other day, years after it dawned on you,
00:00:39.640 that there are no secular leaders of anything and that people pose as, you know, science-based
00:00:46.980 and non-religious. But everyone who has power in the world is religious, I have noticed.
00:00:53.040 They just have different religions. And you've been on this for a very long time. 0.90
00:00:57.040 so let's just start as big as we can what's the purpose of commuting with the supernatural
00:01:04.880 for leaders why do leaders do it i think there was a some maybe this is a quote or someone said
00:01:12.220 this to me um there are not power there are non-powerful people who are freemasons yes there
00:01:18.820 are no powerful people who are not freemasons freemasons freemasons if you think about the
00:01:24.840 nature of an initiatory group that's been around in its current form for a few hundred years since
00:01:31.020 the 1700s, right? In the UK, but, and likewise in France. But it's, you know, they say its origin
00:01:39.100 or they believe that its origin precedes it to the Knights Templar, right? Who were a very powerful
00:01:43.720 order, as we know. From my understanding of the Templars, it's not the idea of like nine knights
00:01:49.400 showing up in the Middle East during the Crusades, right? To guard the roads, right? It was really
00:01:54.000 more about uh excavating under the the temple of solomon yeah that was you know what they were
00:02:00.080 interested were they want to get to the the well of souls the well of souls the the ancient texts
00:02:05.520 the things that were you know written into like grimoires and hidden you know incantations things
00:02:11.120 that you could basically call upon the spiritual realm because that's the lore of king solomon
00:02:15.840 king solomon is remember from the bible you know he had wisdom and he was a powerful ruler over
00:02:23.120 uh what was then israel but uh richest man in the world yeah well he had the goal but why did
00:02:29.280 he have the power was because he could call upon what they called jinn genies and he could command
00:02:34.560 them with his ring the ring of solomon the ring of power and that's what he so the real lore of
00:02:40.080 like masonry right was that he had this builder hiram abiff who could you know who architected
00:02:45.280 the the temple the temple of solomon but they had jinn that they called upon to actually
00:02:51.280 do the work and to build it now that's all metaphor and what are jinn genies what we would
00:02:59.280 call genies in aladdin's lamp they are the beings and so i went to iran the first time was
00:03:04.920 curiosity but i went to go meet with some of these guys that communicate to them to the other side
00:03:11.240 and uh and i would talk to them about you know what's going on in the world and they would say
00:03:15.720 yeah, I mean, the jinn in Islamic lore is very similar to like angels and demons or
00:03:21.440 the watchers in the book of Enoch, right? Who are not, they're both dark and light. Some serve 0.69
00:03:27.900 God, some serve the dark side. And so the idea of like the power of Solomon was to be able to
00:03:35.880 have a relationship and mastery. And some people say that he actually got overwhelmed by the power
00:03:41.620 and that's why he fell, right?
00:03:43.520 He ended up with the love affair
00:03:46.160 that sort of sank his rulership
00:03:49.020 because it's a very dangerous gambit
00:03:53.180 once you start committing with that side.
00:03:55.560 But all, I believe all the initiatory paths,
00:03:59.420 Freemasonry is just one of them,
00:04:00.760 the most famous one, 0.96
00:04:02.360 lead you to that realm,
00:04:04.320 to the understanding
00:04:05.000 that there's spiritual forces invisible to us
00:04:08.840 that are working through people in this world. 1.00
00:04:13.000 And just because someone is a so-called Christian
00:04:15.740 doesn't mean they're serving God. 0.98
00:04:17.220 And just because someone is a Muslim
00:04:19.320 doesn't mean they're serving the devil.
00:04:21.660 That it's the same across the entire planet,
00:04:24.280 that there are forces of dark and light
00:04:25.740 working through every religion, every people,
00:04:28.740 even through our own lifetime, our own souls.
00:04:32.120 You know, at any point,
00:04:33.680 when you grow up in Hollywood or whatnot,
00:04:34.880 you realize, like,
00:04:36.220 it does seem that people can sell their souls.
00:04:37.940 and maybe not even be aware of it.
00:04:42.040 Because to me, it's not Satanism is like,
00:04:46.940 can be incantations,
00:04:48.160 it can be blood sacrifices and rituals.
00:04:50.600 It can also just be worship of the material realm.
00:04:52.960 Yes.
00:04:53.340 Right?
00:04:53.660 So when you get into that realm of like,
00:04:55.080 oh, I want power, I want worldly power.
00:04:58.720 I think that's the satanic path.
00:05:01.220 They don't think of it as such.
00:05:03.280 but materialism at his heart is worship of the earth and that's why people talk about the earth
00:05:10.520 it's like you know it's kind of lucifer's domain right because if you worship if you become start
00:05:15.560 worshiping money and you know and yourself your own ego well you've lost sight of the transcendent
00:05:22.520 power of god there's no question about that there's no question um and i think all of us
00:05:28.780 experienced that in our own lives uh but just to back to what you initially said about the masons
00:05:35.560 so we were about 100 feet from a masonic lodge um they're all over rural america they're kind
00:05:42.440 of a vestige of the past this is how i think of them a bunch of elderly guys with ceremonial
00:05:48.540 swords yeah i have stories i have one you have one um i have one right over there from that lodge
00:05:55.400 uh you don't think of them as a threat or even a meaningful player in current events um but then
00:06:05.420 i should say i don't know much about it yeah uh i don't so at really at all you joined the masons
00:06:11.500 why did you do that and what what was it like so it was it was a it was a journey of initiation i
00:06:19.320 think that i was going through in that time um right out of college because you know in my college
00:06:24.340 years, started getting deep into studying history. And even in the Procopius was writing the history
00:06:33.840 of Justinian, right? The Roman emperor, Byzantine emperor. And he described him as a shape-shifting
00:06:39.520 demon, basically, in that book, in the secret history. And that was buried for a long time.
00:06:46.380 And, you know, again, there's all types of histories that King James was, was it James's
00:06:52.080 bible but he also wrote demonology book right i mean this was the way that it was the world was
00:06:56.680 perceived and understood for centuries as we know um as a battleground between dark and light yeah
00:07:02.740 i mean as as forces that were unseen i mean socrates talked about his his daemon like his
00:07:08.040 you know but be called genius but you know they say like in the old world there's a theory that
00:07:13.580 when homer's writing about you know the iliad and and about you know all these different um
00:07:19.140 gods having a play in human life, a lot of people believe that we were in communication more
00:07:25.880 readily with beings, unseen beings. And it may have been a real factor in our consciousness back
00:07:33.880 then. And then obviously we get to this place of the enlightenment when all of that becomes
00:07:39.800 relegated and we say, oh, that's all hocus pocus and not real. We can only focus on the physical
00:07:45.300 realm, but you can't understand how life begins through the physical realm alone. You can't
00:07:51.040 understand how the universe is formed. No. Right. I mean, what, okay. How does a big
00:07:55.260 Bane start? You know, it just, just happens. Okay. Spontaneous Bane. Time travel. I mean,
00:08:00.960 how does it happen? How does it actually begin? Exactly from what? And how does our, how does
00:08:05.120 life begin? So I think a lot of the materialists actually, you could say like, you know, people
00:08:10.400 say Darwin and whatnot are essentially serving the dark side because they're saying there's
00:08:14.680 nothing outside the material realm. It's this is all that exists and everything. Well, actually,
00:08:20.420 all we're interfacing with is our own minds, our own perceptions. And so when they want us to
00:08:25.820 believe, you know, a very simplified version of reality, spontaneous evolution, random evolution,
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00:08:39.780 in a sense, because it now it elevates our own egos. It makes us, you know, we're the
00:08:45.420 progenitors of this and, you know, we are the greatest thing in the universe and we can get 0.95
00:08:49.740 into that later, but that then serves a transhuman agenda that, you know, it's all about perfecting 0.60
00:08:54.860 ourselves through the physical plane of genetics, right? Genetic tampering and whatnot. And you try 0.85
00:09:00.240 to basically take the spiritual origin impulse of God creating this universe out of the story,
00:09:08.740 right that's what the enlightenment did in many ways but you can't take it out because we
00:09:13.400 instinctively as souls that we are in human form we have this curiosity and this desire to know
00:09:20.780 okay where i come from like it can't you know my soul didn't just spontaneously appear how do i
00:09:28.840 have consciousness how to where does consciousness originate from just from our brains well i think
00:09:33.340 we're understanding that our brains are more receivers almost like you know computers that
00:09:38.040 can receive the internet that's around us. That's the way that we function more in that way. And
00:09:43.460 that's why people have near-death experiences or they have out-of-body experiences. The CIA does
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00:13:40.420 So I would, you know, study these things and ended up going into, well, I met this guy who was himself a mason and he was a Jersey kid who was like my age and we started, he had been exploring these haunted places. New Jersey is notorious for being haunted. They have a whole magazine called Haunted NJ, right? And not just Jersey, but, you know, let's say the East Coast.
00:14:04.380 especially new jersey especially new jersey they got some history there i don't know what it is
00:14:08.060 um and so he was exploring these places like graystone which was a massive mental hospital
00:14:13.720 um woody guthrie was there for example and you saw it in the recent uh bob dylan movie he goes
00:14:20.540 and visits guthrie at the graystone mental hospital this place was about for a hundred years it was
00:14:26.780 one of the biggest mental hospitals in the country it was the biggest foundation when they built it
00:14:31.680 until they built the Pentagon after.
00:14:33.760 So it was a massive,
00:14:34.760 like we went to this place at night
00:14:36.220 and even though it was shut down,
00:14:39.600 it was still, the lights were still on
00:14:41.720 and it's about five or six stories tall
00:14:45.200 and underground there's tunnels and passages
00:14:48.060 that go on for miles around.
00:14:50.340 So we would go explore this place at night
00:14:52.380 and let's just say that high strangeness ensued
00:14:57.760 because he started to-
00:15:00.200 Abandoned mental hospital in New Jersey.
00:15:02.260 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:03.380 It's an abandoned mental hospital in Jersey.
00:15:05.180 And so from the first time that we went there
00:15:08.380 and then went back and each time it would just,
00:15:11.000 different things would reveal themselves to me
00:15:13.340 in a way that I made a film about it,
00:15:16.600 Greystone Park to kind of symbolize the way
00:15:19.900 that fear operates to me.
00:15:21.980 I believe that our frequency attracts forces.
00:15:25.900 And so when you go into a place like that,
00:15:29.160 where thousands of people have died.
00:15:32.720 They had like a mass grave, basically,
00:15:35.540 thousands of people that had died there
00:15:36.880 over the course of a hundred years.
00:15:38.720 And there'd been a lot of abuse.
00:15:40.380 And I think also people go into this place
00:15:42.820 where they would go into that place
00:15:44.280 who are themselves, you know, we call mentally ill, 0.70
00:15:46.260 but a lot of them I think were demon possessed.
00:15:48.720 And so imagine it's now becoming a place
00:15:51.760 of very dark energy and-
00:15:55.560 Hard to imagine anything darker than that.
00:15:57.260 Right, yeah.
00:15:58.940 And so what we saw was like indications, paraphernalia,
00:16:02.240 books, things like this left behind of like satanic rituals.
00:16:06.540 Like people would go there and perform rituals
00:16:08.900 to draw upon that energy.
00:16:12.160 And why would someone do that?
00:16:16.400 Well, so this gets into the nature of this realm, right?
00:16:21.340 If we, again, like we understand like material realm
00:16:24.460 is what we see and what we interact with,
00:16:26.700 what we think we're interacting with.
00:16:27.880 But as we know, at heart, it's just, it's all energy.
00:16:32.300 Like this table is moving particles, right?
00:16:35.260 Our being is, we're moving particles, moving atoms,
00:16:38.140 we're energetic bodies that, you know, appear to be fixed.
00:16:42.860 But actually, as we know, we're changing every second,
00:16:45.500 every, you know, every day, you know,
00:16:47.420 where cells are dying and being reborn,
00:16:49.740 you know, our energy body is moving.
00:16:52.460 And so the spiritual traditions have always understood
00:16:56.720 that because, you know, they didn't call it necessarily energy, but prana and life force,
00:17:01.720 breath, right? Like that's the origin of creation is something in spirit is moving through us into
00:17:08.640 this container, this vessel that, you know, that appears fixed. But again, as we know, it's changing.
00:17:13.860 That's why we don't look the same every day, even if it's just slight differences. And as you know,
00:17:21.480 like you can see in people's, you can just, you can kind of see it sometimes, right? Like you can
00:17:25.900 see when someone's energetically drained. You can see when someone's energy is high and they're
00:17:30.420 vibrant. Instantly. So this is all, this is the energetic nature of reality. So if we are
00:17:39.140 talking about a world that also is energetic and alive, and then you have geometry, let's say,
00:17:46.940 certain structures trap energy more than others, right? I mean, if you're outdoors and I mean,
00:17:53.300 we can just experience it right you're out in nature you're in you're in a forest the trees
00:17:58.640 are going to have certain energy it's going to move you know maybe like they'll in the course
00:18:03.340 they are living beings right so they'll they'll live their life and die um and that's why some
00:18:09.320 forests are called haunted forests or darker you know they're darker places and sometimes you'll
00:18:13.900 have historically yeah you'll have places where there'll be gatherings of people to practice you
00:18:21.080 know, since the pagan times, let's say, right, to practice different rituals. And sometimes you'll
00:18:25.420 feel the energy of that, like, oh, this is a place where, you know, there's a gathering that takes
00:18:30.340 place and a certain energy gets created there. Same way as like a building. I mean, that's what
00:18:35.600 a haunted house is, right? Like if you're in a house and it's, you know, someone gets murdered,
00:18:41.440 it's going to have a heavier energy, right? Because it hasn't, unless you come and bless it
00:18:46.160 really i don't know do the right energy do the work to move the energy through to let it pass
00:18:51.600 right to let the souls go um and i had that experience with one of the haunted places i
00:18:57.360 went to it was like a place that was uh notorious it was next to them when it was next to a mental
00:19:04.480 hospital where kids uh were housed and this was upstate new york this was different from graystone
00:19:12.560 And in that house next to the mental hospital for kids,
00:19:16.920 the legend has it that a priest
00:19:19.880 that was molesting these kids at that property
00:19:24.220 and actually killing some of the kids 0.96
00:19:26.460 and doing black magic. 0.79
00:19:28.780 And in that house, I saw people get possessed
00:19:32.340 and we heard the sounds of hell coming from...
00:19:37.340 from, I mean, it's hard to imagine
00:19:40.140 that this is what we experienced.
00:19:42.040 You know, we'd be upstairs
00:19:42.800 and all of a sudden we'd hear howling of dogs
00:19:46.200 and laughter, like demonic laughter
00:19:48.360 and things like this echoing through the house.
00:19:51.220 And so we went back multiple times
00:19:52.920 and we blessed the house
00:19:53.940 and the final time really felt a purging of energy
00:19:57.860 and the house burned down on its own
00:20:00.040 within about a month or two.
00:20:03.180 So that's the kind of thing we talk about,
00:20:05.540 like the energy that gets trapped in places
00:20:08.160 until you come with higher frequency of blessing a place
00:20:11.660 and clearing the energy.
00:20:13.820 So again, we're talking of a battle of dark and light,
00:20:16.700 those forces that draw upon dark energy
00:20:20.960 because they can then invoke spirit,
00:20:25.040 let's say darker spirits that hooks into that.
00:20:27.700 If everything is, let's say like frequency, fear,
00:20:33.320 things that are horrific,
00:20:35.540 horror films play into the psychology, right?
00:20:38.020 It's like Freddy Krueger, right?
00:20:39.300 He plays, he preys upon, he's a dream demon, right?
00:20:42.820 He infects people with fear.
00:20:45.860 And we think about how like demons are what?
00:20:49.100 They're scary, right?
00:20:50.200 They're monstrous, they're shadows.
00:20:51.740 They're things that create fear in us.
00:20:55.800 And then it seems to be like the frequency match almost.
00:21:01.980 Do you think that's one of the reasons
00:21:03.420 that jesus so often tells his disciples not to be afraid yes that's exactly right so remember when
00:21:10.860 demon cat and when jesus casts out the demons he sends them into the swine yeah he's like yeah get
00:21:15.740 them out get out of the human vessel and they go and kill themselves because a lot of the demonic
00:21:20.780 i mean again there's different frequency of demonic energy there's madness a lot of psychosis we have
00:21:27.900 experiencing in this country, I think connects to it. A lot of it ties into alcohol and drugs.
00:21:34.240 That's, you know, lowering people's frequency. You know, it's one thing to have, you know,
00:21:39.140 a glass or two, but as we know, a lot of alcohol, what does it do? It takes us out of our right
00:21:44.060 mind. In my experience of seeing people who get possessed, it's pretty much like seeing someone's,
00:21:49.960 you know, when someone's out of blackout drunk and we've all seen it. Someone's
00:21:54.460 coked up or out of their mind on with alcohol and they behave erratically irrationally they get
00:22:00.980 aggressive they get mean or they start laughing hysterically and the next day they may not
00:22:05.900 remember anything it's exactly what possession is because when you see someone get possessed
00:22:10.360 they just like like it's like a flip a flip of a switch and they go from someone you can see look
00:22:19.640 the eyes and see what they are to just checked out i've seen
00:22:26.280 people screaming i've seen people laughing maniacally i've seen just you know just check
00:22:30.840 out like just staring blankly but you know it you just you know that this person's not in their right
00:22:37.640 mind yes and the key is to try to bring the light back breathe bring you know good energy back
00:22:44.520 raise the frequency of this so they can come back to their self, their selves. So what I would say
00:22:52.600 this battle is between the darkness that again feeds on that fear, that lower vibrational psyche
00:23:00.040 of like not being in our right mind, not being in our higher selves, right? Not being connected to
00:23:05.620 our spirit, our higher, you know, to God basically, right? Spirit that is always available. But the
00:23:12.660 dark side wants to lower that frequency to a place that would be closer to hell, right? It's
00:23:18.320 always been described as hell, a place of torture, of suffering, of pain.
00:23:21.260 Place of the dead.
00:23:22.340 Yeah. Well, even worse than death, right? Death is one thing. Go below that, you know? And it's
00:23:29.960 like, that's the level of self-destruction, like you said with the pigs, you know, 0.98
00:23:34.980 self-destructiveness. 0.97
00:23:37.000 So this is the battle.
00:23:38.400 And again, if the dark side has, you know, 0.95
00:23:43.860 waged war on mankind, let's say, right? 0.81
00:23:46.200 If we believe, and this is, you know,
00:23:49.060 this is not just Christian tradition.
00:23:51.260 I mean, this is like a lot of-
00:23:52.260 It's the old story there is.
00:23:53.260 Yeah, it's a lot of stories around the world
00:23:54.900 have talked about this, you know,
00:23:56.100 that there's something that's waging war on mankind.
00:24:01.360 They want possession of the soul.
00:24:03.820 They want us to check out, to surrender, right?
00:24:06.700 To check out, say, hand over control of the vehicle.
00:24:11.180 And that seems to be the real battle, right?
00:24:13.420 Are we autonomous beings?
00:24:14.600 We have control of our vehicles?
00:24:15.900 I mean, we all experienced this during COVID.
00:24:17.840 Imagine like, you know, all of a sudden it seems so far out,
00:24:20.460 but like during COVID,
00:24:22.200 we actively saw people checked out from fear
00:24:25.380 and like dead body, like dead things,
00:24:28.600 you know, putting on masks
00:24:29.660 so they can't even really breathe.
00:24:31.160 They can't, in a court of law,
00:24:33.820 you can't speak if you've got a mask on, right?
00:24:37.360 So like you don't have any say.
00:24:39.220 So when you put a mask on,
00:24:40.260 you're basically taking away your power to speak
00:24:42.060 and to breathe.
00:24:43.500 So you're like a dead thing now.
00:24:46.000 And then beyond that,
00:24:47.080 we saw the hysteria that came with it from fear,
00:24:50.240 all that fear around you're infected,
00:24:52.940 you might be infected.
00:24:53.940 This person could be infected.
00:24:55.120 You didn't get your shot.
00:24:56.660 You better stay away.
00:24:57.660 You can't come to the family gathering.
00:24:59.400 You can't come into my establishment.
00:25:01.580 And if you're in California,
00:25:02.580 I mean, I left the state because it was like, I can get a fake vaccine card, but I don't want to engage with people that are mandating this.
00:25:12.120 What kind of hysteria, what kind of madness is this, right?
00:25:14.940 So we've all experienced that kind of possession.
00:25:17.340 Not like some people personally experienced it and then said, wait a minute, I was in fear and I've woken up.
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00:26:34.020 so the masons practice a religion how would you describe what masonry is well
00:26:42.260 i mean masonry is based in the old testament you know most a lot of the masons i know are christian
00:26:50.300 but again it's i look at it as an initiatory path so i don't look at it as masons are are evil
00:26:59.540 what i experienced was that there's okay so i'll put like this the first night that i went there
00:27:07.660 um where was this uh the cornerstone lodge in new york which is a very famous lodge
00:27:14.640 uh people like jay-z you know go there and whatnot it's uh you know it's jay-z's a mason
00:27:20.580 yeah from my understanding he uh he was you know he was with that lodge um as well but higher
00:27:27.620 higher than i was um but the point is that it's it's um it's an initiation to kind of
00:27:36.640 what I felt was being observed and watched. And I know it was watched because after doing the
00:27:44.900 first degree initiation where you get the blindfold and the noose and all this stuff is
00:27:49.320 online. I'm not revealing some secrets. All the phrases and things, the geometry of it where you
00:27:56.600 have to walk certain directions and points and say certain things, all that's online now. It's
00:28:02.840 public. But when you perform it ritualistically, like a play, there are other forces that are not
00:28:09.720 human that are engaging in the experience. And I know that because when I was leaving the lodge
00:28:17.340 that night with my friend, we got a phone call. And it was an unknown number. And this sort of
00:28:25.920 husky voice was on the phone. And he was like, how was the meeting? I was like, it's interesting
00:28:33.260 game you guys have going here. And it's like, and we were just talking a bit, saying a lot of
00:28:38.720 things that were like biblical, you know, 40 days in the cave, 40, some stuff that I didn't
00:28:43.260 understand. But I knew that they were watching me because I was walking back to my apartment in New
00:28:50.220 York. And I'm like, oh, so you're watching me. He's like, yeah. I'm like, okay, what am I doing?
00:28:54.500 he's like you're walking so I stopped walking and I'm like oh yeah he's like yeah you stopped
00:28:59.000 walking and I was like okay it could be a guess but let's just go you know continue the conversation
00:29:04.800 go upstairs and I had like a gray shirt on and black pants and after you know I started recording
00:29:13.540 the conversation the audio did not record subsequently only the video recorded but 0.73
00:29:20.680 as I was recording this basically was it was this man's voice and then it would be a woman that
00:29:26.240 would take over so it was like two voices it was one as a man one as a woman and then she basically
00:29:32.040 said stop recording and I was like you know I didn't stop I would maybe like stop for a minute
00:29:38.000 then I turn it back on and I had at that time I had a cross on sorry it was not a cross it was
00:29:45.460 was an Islamic sword that I had as a necklace. And so I was taking my shirt off and she's like,
00:29:53.280 put your shirt back on. And I was like, oh, you don't like this symbol or what's wrong?
00:29:59.040 And it was like, put your shirt back on. And I'm like, we just continued to talk,
00:30:03.520 but there were a few things that I remember distinctly, including her saying,
00:30:06.680 I'll leave you with this. You're wearing a gray shirt with black pants.
00:30:09.640 so something was had been observing me that night and they continued to talk with me and
00:30:16.160 um it it it was essentially they texted me thereafter and it was like it went on for an
00:30:23.880 hour or so like off and on my friend who took me there got really sick to his stomach he was like
00:30:28.420 vomiting actually after that during that same time that I was on the phone and uh he really was like
00:30:34.360 physically out of it and so i was conversing with these things for like an hour
00:30:38.720 and again a lot of it was about the fallen angels because uh this goes back to again
00:30:48.980 the jinn the unseen world the idea that remember the book of enoch talks about this that
00:30:55.780 the fall basically is not just lucifer's it's like lucifer and the what was it the three
00:31:02.680 the 300 or the 300 I think that fell um but a lot of it had to do with the origin of like
00:31:10.960 how the angels fell in love with human human women right that's the story of Enoch
00:31:16.600 was that yes they fell in love with human women they had children the Nephilim the fallen ones 0.72
00:31:22.720 or also I guess they're also fallen ones and uh this whole bloodline war basically I was like 0.77
00:31:30.100 you know fallen angels having children with human women and becoming like the great leaders of old
00:31:37.020 you know the the men of renown the men of renown exactly the leaders of the military and the and
00:31:43.780 the emperors or kings of the time royal bloodlines so all this came up that night what's interesting
00:31:52.460 is if you bring up that story from enoch it's alluded to in genesis 6 as well people look at
00:31:59.040 you like that's the craziest thing i've ever heard where does that come from is that like a
00:32:03.600 david ike concept or something but then if you just assess it non-emotionally that's pretty much
00:32:11.440 every religion tells that story including christianity right jesus is the product of
00:32:15.940 spirit and a human woman right god and mary so the greek myths are the same alexander was
00:32:24.520 his mother said that zeus came to her exactly um so i'm not yeah you know i mean that's not proof
00:32:31.060 but it's certainly uh an indication this is not like a crazy new theory that david ike thought
00:32:35.720 up not at all and that's why i always say the basis of every religion yeah but that's why people
00:32:39.920 get so they want you to think about i guess like he's the crazy guy but that's why i studied history
00:32:45.380 because i wanted to say no ike is just picking up on old traditions and he's just listening to
00:32:50.740 people that are telling him stories, which I think... You can hear that story in any church
00:32:54.680 in the United States every Sunday. Exactly. Right. So it's not, conceptually, it's not a
00:33:00.240 departure from what people have thought for thousands of years, that there is the physical
00:33:06.740 reality of actors from the spiritual realm impregnating human women. Right. Right. And 0.82
00:33:13.020 going, again, I mean, even the Anunnaki texts of the Sumerians before, you know, which predates
00:33:17.340 the old testament talking about exactly this thing about the anunnaki sky gods um creating the first
00:33:23.340 humans as their workers and you know and again like the flood story the flood mythology comes 0.62
00:33:29.340 from that you know god was so displeased by the behavior of the nephilim that he destroyed the 0.83
00:33:34.860 world right and their behavior that he that he specifically called out was violence right right
00:33:42.300 right and eating of actually eating of humans the Nephilim did remember really oh yeah the
00:33:48.420 giants ate the humans do you remember that's in the book of Enoch it's in one of them it's either
00:33:55.380 I mean I thought it was in the Bible but it's definitely in Enoch then because that was the
00:33:58.920 issue that they were the Giants were eating people and uh so this you know then takes us to the very
00:34:06.480 you know, present day of, you know, when demon, you know, the lore around demons drinking human
00:34:13.360 blood or like, you know, demon possessed humans drinking human blood, Dracula mythology, right?
00:34:18.260 I mean, this is all, it's, it's, it's drawn upon the old world, but it, you know, when I,
00:34:26.140 when, when Hunter S. Thompson talks about adrenochrome and people say, oh, he made that up.
00:34:30.480 And I go, yeah, except I talked to a military intelligence guy who goes, adrenochrome is real.
00:34:36.480 because it comes across our messaging boards all the time.
00:34:40.880 You know, adrenochrome is being trafficked into the country.
00:34:43.820 So adrenochrome is a compound from the human adrenal gland.
00:34:47.360 Is that correct?
00:34:48.160 Yeah.
00:34:48.400 I mean, my understanding is it's like an adrenaline.
00:34:51.060 Basically, it's adrenaline that gets secreted
00:34:53.240 from like obviously adrenaline from anxiety,
00:34:58.000 from stress, from fear.
00:35:00.400 And it's, you know, it's something specifically
00:35:02.520 that is being used for, you know, as a drug or is it, you know, is it demonic food?
00:35:11.560 I don't know.
00:35:12.500 I mean, again, it's not something that I've personally experienced,
00:35:15.180 but, you know, it's like we're connecting the ancient world to the modern world.
00:35:19.960 And it seems to be, you know, if it's one long thread, we can't, you know, we can't just ignore that.
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00:36:41.860 It's very interesting to me that some of the main themes throughout human history,
00:36:47.260 blood being the life force, the spirit.
00:36:50.340 The magic and the blood, right?
00:36:51.420 The magic and the blood.
00:36:53.040 Genetics.
00:36:54.760 Bloodline.
00:36:56.640 These were full-blown preoccupations for every...
00:37:00.960 civilization before 1945 and they've just been eliminated from public conversation by media but
00:37:07.500 media is the greatest magician of all right I mean that's it's so interesting that you mentioned 45
00:37:13.140 obviously that's the end of the second world war right you know British broadcasting was originally
00:37:18.900 part of uh British intelligence like it was always you know they understood that propaganda was key
00:37:24.600 I mean that was right first world war effort um bringing us into the first world war getting us
00:37:30.180 getting us involved and then obviously the second world war the same there was a huge amount of
00:37:34.260 propaganda that was that was put out for it but then we adopted those same techniques post 45 i
00:37:41.140 would say with the various radio projects um you know whether it was like you know and from radio
00:37:46.500 to television right the same concept a lot of the guys as you know that were like intelligence oss
00:37:52.580 officers or you know part of the oss then became like executives and whatnot for the original um
00:37:59.140 you know tv channels which as you know at the time was like what like four you know it was
00:38:04.260 like abc cbs plus pbs yeah four right um and so it was very it was very important to send out
00:38:11.700 messaging and then um likewise with radio it was the same thing it was like okay first radio was
00:38:17.220 used you know for for information before television but then radio became the music
00:38:21.940 and so it became like top 40 what was it the top 40 project like essentially it was like let's
00:38:27.460 let's figure out how to basically condition people using music and it's no longer going to be
00:38:33.940 symphonic right like long symphonic pieces of music it's going to be short three minutes or
00:38:39.540 less of you know something that can like hook people and cultural propaganda culturally
00:38:44.180 propagandize over and over hypnotize people essentially i mean that's so music does think
00:38:48.740 about the when we engage with so interesting engaging with young people now and seeing how
00:38:53.540 much like you know when i was a kid hip-hop was it was kind of coming you know it was coming on
00:38:58.500 in the 90s but nowadays it's like all those lyrics a lot of the a lot of the the more debasing
00:39:06.100 you know lyrics let's say how do you end up with an only fans culture wolf starts with the lyrics
00:39:10.180 that are put out through hip-hop music that's propagated to every you know young kid across
00:39:15.700 the country and then that becomes part of the cultural conditioning languaging all these things
00:39:22.420 So I think music is one of the most important magical tools that's used to obviously influence culture.
00:39:31.440 And then obviously not just music and film.
00:39:33.720 And nowadays with streaming, it's putting people into hypnotic states for hours on end, right?
00:39:40.700 When you stream things into the consciousness.
00:39:42.560 Yeah, or social media are hypnotic, I've noticed, and very addictive.
00:39:46.600 So TikTok especially.
00:39:48.040 I mean, people literally just fall asleep to it.
00:39:49.760 You know, it's just scrolling and streaming.
00:39:51.300 so part of the point of the propaganda effort is not just to highlight lies but to prevent people
00:39:58.140 from considering things in full context or seeing the whole picture always eliminating certain
00:40:04.860 important themes from the public conversation and certainly anything supernatural would fall
00:40:12.400 into that blood and genetics would also be part of that um but the people who run the world
00:40:20.340 never stopped paying attention to the supernatural,
00:40:23.280 to blood and genetics, did they?
00:40:24.700 No, I don't think so.
00:40:25.920 I mean, from my experience,
00:40:28.540 and again, I mean, I have a limited experience of it,
00:40:30.940 but you talk to some of these families
00:40:34.740 and I mean, first of all, in the UK,
00:40:37.840 you feel it, especially in England,
00:40:40.000 the aristocratic culture, the mindset.
00:40:43.800 To this day, they still have a king, you know?
00:40:46.000 Yes.
00:40:47.000 Okay.
00:40:48.140 You know, they still have the aristocracy
00:40:49.780 and the bloodlines families and whatnot
00:40:52.220 and their traditions.
00:40:55.180 And then, you know, you think about like,
00:40:57.140 you know, some of these families talk about
00:40:58.560 they can trace their ancestry back
00:41:00.740 to the Roman empire
00:41:02.260 or even before sometimes.
00:41:07.160 But again, it's just,
00:41:09.740 whether or not you're aware,
00:41:10.820 again, like whether or not you're aware of it,
00:41:12.620 I think some families more so than others.
00:41:16.940 The families that are more aware of it,
00:41:18.640 I think, have a certain conditioning process
00:41:23.640 that some people talk about
00:41:25.040 when it comes to the pedophilia.
00:41:26.700 I think that's more normalized.
00:41:30.580 It's kind of part of the boarding school culture.
00:41:32.720 Yeah.
00:41:33.100 Oftentimes, like that was my sense of it
00:41:34.860 when I was at Oxford for two terms
00:41:37.080 and, you know, hanging out with, you know,
00:41:40.120 some people, some families
00:41:41.120 that are more known than others.
00:41:42.960 And they would, you know,
00:41:44.280 some of them would tell me like, you know,
00:41:45.540 the boarding school culture was very,
00:41:46.940 you know uh you could say you know homosexual and that kind of dates back to in terms of the
00:41:54.700 ideology to rome and greece remember like the idea of you know passing on wisdom from the male
00:42:01.520 from the older male to the younger male and yeah so it becomes acceptable and then um yeah and then
00:42:08.100 you you know you you do hear these things about a lot of these these families that are like
00:42:12.660 practicing pedophilia with their own kids.
00:42:15.820 And they look at it almost like a training,
00:42:20.240 like a training process because it dissociates.
00:42:23.240 So traumatic abuse of a young person dissociates them,
00:42:27.960 makes them able to then,
00:42:30.660 you could argue like, you know,
00:42:32.420 like the monarch butterfly, that's the symbol.
00:42:34.240 The monarch is often described as a symbol
00:42:36.140 of the childhood programming.
00:42:40.020 So basically like when you are traumatized so young,
00:42:43.760 you dissociate, you now have greater ability to act
00:42:47.020 without moral compunction,
00:42:50.460 without even like knowing your own limits, right?
00:42:53.560 Your own self.
00:42:55.020 You basically have broken all those barriers.
00:42:57.460 Well, you do have to ask questions about a system
00:43:00.560 that sends its sons to boarding school
00:43:03.780 at seven or eight years old.
00:43:07.060 Or even younger sometimes.
00:43:07.900 Or even younger.
00:43:08.920 Yeah, my grandfather went, you know, at that kind of age.
00:43:13.540 And it wasn't good for him.
00:43:15.540 I don't know why you would do that,
00:43:18.580 but it has something to do with breaking down
00:43:21.600 normal qualities in a young man.
00:43:24.320 I'm not saying it's a pederasty thing,
00:43:27.440 but it does have to do with...
00:43:29.920 Yeah, abuse has many forms.
00:43:31.540 That's right.
00:43:31.940 There's the physical, there's the verbal.
00:43:33.900 The sexual is just usually like the one
00:43:35.500 that no one wants to talk about.
00:43:37.760 No, that's right.
00:43:38.240 But obviously it occurs.
00:43:40.840 So, okay.
00:43:42.860 So how long were you a Mason?
00:43:45.140 I mean, it's not like you ever like established
00:43:48.600 like I'm going to meetings.
00:43:49.960 No, I wanted to initiate to three degrees.
00:43:52.260 I entered.
00:43:54.380 And in between, by the way.
00:43:55.720 Okay, so this is why I know this gets far out.
00:43:58.180 But like in between.
00:43:59.000 We're already pretty far out.
00:44:00.320 The initiation, the first degree and the third degree
00:44:03.120 from in that time period,
00:44:05.160 I would get phone calls from 666 numbers all the time.
00:44:08.240 six, six, six, six, six, six, six. We want your soul. Like just demonic voices. I want your
00:44:14.180 soul. That's kind of nonsense. So Satan called your cell. I mean, I don't know if, you know, 0.95
00:44:18.400 if it was Satan or the CIA, but someone with a six, six, six number that sounded satanic called
00:44:22.820 my cell and would be like, we want your soul. And I would just laugh. I don't be like, okay. I mean,
00:44:27.540 it's not mine to give, you know, my soul belongs to God. So I don't know what you're talking. I
00:44:30.860 can't, I can't, I can't help you basically. I don't know what to tell you. I think I'm jumpier
00:44:34.560 than you because if I was, you know, in between degrees in the Masons and Satan started calling
00:44:39.580 me, I would drop out. Well, it's not about dropping out or not. It's about initiating
00:44:43.480 and understanding the world. And that's why I believe the checkerboard is very real. Like
00:44:50.500 the way that it's designed is the checkerboard on the floor. It's black and white. Not all
00:44:54.240 Satanists are evil. I do believe that there's the path of light and there's a path of dark.
00:44:57.440 They want to assess who you are. And as I say, they, I mean, like a higher realm wants to know
00:45:02.160 what you are. So I believe the people that join, which was the darker side, you know, I think I've
00:45:09.200 seen it. They basically are willing to do anything. They're willing to drink the blood.
00:45:14.620 They're willing to make the oath essentially to the dark because they just want power.
00:45:19.640 And if they know that you're not, your soul isn't wired that way, you don't end up on the
00:45:24.260 satanic path. So again, like a lot of these were just, just kind of tests. I felt like they were
00:45:30.880 or just kind of tests, just kind of,
00:45:32.740 like I got a call from Azazel one time.
00:45:34.940 You know, Azazel is the angel of death, right?
00:45:37.680 Azazel calls, and then like a day or two later,
00:45:40.340 my grandmother passed away.
00:45:41.900 When my grandmother-
00:45:42.740 Wait, the angel of death called your cell?
00:45:43.920 Yeah.
00:45:45.080 Well, it was like, now, I mean,
00:45:46.340 it basically identified itself as Azazel, and-
00:45:50.000 What did you say?
00:45:51.780 No, I just, I knew what Azazel was.
00:45:53.380 So I knew a spirit of death was around.
00:45:56.060 And then, like I said, my grandmother passed,
00:45:57.740 like, I think within one or two days of that call.
00:46:00.640 So I was like, wow, okay.
00:46:03.060 What did the angel of death say on the phone?
00:46:06.040 It wasn't, I don't remember, like, again,
00:46:07.740 it wasn't like I remember specifically
00:46:10.020 an announcement of something.
00:46:11.640 It was just more of like in that time period,
00:46:13.980 it was getting so many calls from these things
00:46:17.640 like wanting my soul.
00:46:18.940 And sometimes it was witches cackling,
00:46:21.600 like, you know, come play with us,
00:46:23.220 like, come, you know, come join us.
00:46:24.940 Sometimes it was one time.
00:46:27.040 And it's funny, I played this on Alex Jones show,
00:46:29.480 actually back in 2012,
00:46:31.280 it was a call from again, 666
00:46:33.280 and they were doing ball worship.
00:46:34.760 They're like calling on ball
00:46:35.920 and they were like,
00:46:37.100 it sounded like they were doing a ritual.
00:46:38.560 These demonic voices are like ball,
00:46:40.580 you know, they're doing a ritual on this,
00:46:43.540 yeah, on the phone call.
00:46:45.380 So it was almost like they were trying
00:46:47.380 to like engage my energy
00:46:48.920 for what they were doing.
00:46:50.840 Do you see?
00:46:51.460 That goes back to the question around
00:46:53.260 the dark side wants more energy
00:46:56.020 because again, it's disconnected from God.
00:46:59.480 Well, I mean, is it disconnected? Let's just say they're more disconnected. I don't think
00:47:04.200 anything is disconnected from God. My perception is it's all God's universe. So I don't think the
00:47:08.860 dark, I think the dark still ultimately serves the creator's intention. I don't think you can,
00:47:14.060 you can't divorce yourself from the universe, but let's just say their frequency is lower.
00:47:19.100 So they're drawing upon higher vibrational energy to try to, right, to try to draw us down.
00:47:25.420 That's the battle, right? It's like, how many of those of the light can we bring
00:47:28.500 to the dark? How many can we sync to our level? Or if we can't, they stopped after 2012, after my
00:47:35.920 last degree of initiation. And after 2012, I never got calls again. So I just felt like it was this
00:47:41.260 kind of testing phase. And it's like, okay, you don't belong to us. Who knows? Maybe they've taken
00:47:49.740 new forms and not saying everything. Life is obviously full of challenges. So I think the
00:47:55.360 dark can manifest in different ways but for me it was like it was a very overt confrontation with
00:48:01.640 something that people would think is you know a fairy tale until you've lived it do you think
00:48:07.360 other people at the lodge the cornerstone lodge in new york were having similar experiences well
00:48:12.140 i mean i know the person i went with did but like some of the other guys that i knew i don't think
00:48:17.060 they anything changed in their life because yeah i mean we all have different paths right we all
00:48:23.900 like, you know, my, my path was frankly initiatory. I wanted to explore these things. You know, I went
00:48:30.540 all the way to Iran just to talk to, you know, guys that were talking to jins and trying to 0.99
00:48:35.200 understand how the world, you know, is working. What drove you? Yeah, just. Well, you grew up in 0.80
00:48:41.880 a materialistic society in Southern California where the possibility of this stuff was not
00:48:46.400 discussed. I would. Well, no, I mean, I went, I wasn't, you know, my dad took me to India and
00:48:50.540 Tibet when I was, you know, nine, no, 10. And, you know, we went to the Himalayas and went to like
00:48:57.160 visit, you know, Tibetan monasteries that we went to, what's that, the Tala Palace. And, you know,
00:49:05.340 they depict demons and stuff very overtly in the iconography, right? If you look at the artwork,
00:49:10.800 right, of Tibet, Nepal, the Buddhist cultures, and even Hindus, right? Like, you know, they
00:49:15.660 understand that there's demons and angels and, well, they wouldn't call it, they wouldn't call
00:49:19.780 angels i guess but like demi-gods right i mean they would describe like demi-gods right that
00:49:23.460 more you know angelic more divine powerful beings and then you see like the dark faces of the demonic
00:49:29.460 realm they look at all everything i think is like different temptation so it's like you have to get
00:49:35.380 comfortable you have to face the demon you know you can't if you if you hide it that it gets
00:49:40.900 scarier just like in a horror film right it's always scarier and you don't know where the
00:49:44.900 monster is once you can once you can face the monster you take away its power or as you know
00:49:51.460 as going back to the dream demon the freddy krueger it's like i you know i take my power back i'm not
00:49:56.900 afraid of you anymore that's the only way to defeat the monster i believe that yeah fear and hate
00:50:04.340 also feed the demons yeah well but ed made a whole film natural born killer is kind of about these
00:50:10.580 this thing you know it's it's pretty interesting i mean that's a boring killer is if you watch it
00:50:16.260 as two demon possessed people which is really what they are the main characters mickey the
00:50:22.740 main you know is as uh he's been abused by his father who kills himself his uh he's been physically
00:50:29.380 abused by his father the juliette lewis character has been sexually abused by her father and it's
00:50:35.380 It's like all this kind of chaotic American media,
00:50:39.360 you know, glorification of these two serial killers,
00:50:42.060 but they're going through their journey of hell,
00:50:43.840 basically like a hellscape
00:50:45.100 until they find that love kills the demon, right?
00:50:48.440 That's their salvation is through love.
00:50:50.980 But if you watch the movie,
00:50:52.020 it's just like two demon possessed people.
00:50:53.500 It's pretty interesting.
00:50:57.120 Okay, so if we think that hate and fear
00:51:00.180 feed dark forces and spiritual forces,
00:51:03.840 unconscious hate you know i think there's healthy there's healthy we hate certain
00:51:08.600 things that we find intolerable right but if we hate the person if we demonize the person right
00:51:14.300 that's that's feeding the wanting to hurt other people right you know having malice toward others
00:51:18.780 yeah exactly um and then fear being terrorized if those are both spiritual foods for demons
00:51:28.940 how should we understand our government's concerted effort over many years to make us
00:51:35.700 terrified and hateful not just the government media exam media with it right like media and
00:51:41.940 government working hand in hand right i mean those kind of are the messages really yeah there's
00:51:46.280 someone you need to be afraid of and there's someone you should hate yeah required to hate
00:51:50.440 well think about the nature of the masonic lodges there's the red lodge and the blue lodge
00:51:54.380 i don't know anything yeah that's so that's the famous like there's like there's the there's the
00:52:00.400 blue lodge which is more like the french ancestry the scottish right is the red lodge
00:52:05.160 and so think about like the bloods that there are the bloods and crips the the democrats and
00:52:10.640 republicans as red and blue also the bloods and the crypts red and blue and the crypts so like
00:52:15.000 this whole idea of but you know but people articulate as two wings of the same bird
00:52:20.340 ultimately it's like both are there to govern your mentality government govern your mind right
00:52:26.920 so it's like do we want you know do we want more laissez-faire well republicans are supposed to be
00:52:31.100 more libertarian more constitutional more like you know but they don't but they tend to just
00:52:36.320 you know end up spending as much oh yeah as as as the as the blue team you know both obviously are
00:52:43.600 just dependent on the same federal reserve system right so you could say like we've been captured
00:52:49.980 by the federal, you know, by this debt slavery,
00:52:52.780 this debt slave Federal Reserve System since 1913,
00:52:56.240 which is again, right around the time that,
00:52:59.100 well, as we know, the income tax came in,
00:53:01.100 which totally unconstitutional.
00:53:03.780 And then also the First World War begins
00:53:06.820 and the British bring us into their empire
00:53:10.160 because, you know, more formally,
00:53:12.080 because before that we were, you know,
00:53:14.720 we were not supposed to be part of the European game.
00:53:18.300 And we focused on, you know, the Monroe Doctrine was about, you know, focusing on our hemisphere, right?
00:53:23.600 Bringing the Republic, you know, our Republic as a model, you know, for this region and protecting this region from the imperialists of Europe, be it, you know, French, British.
00:53:35.880 I mean, remember during the Civil War, Mexico had a coup by the French and the British Empire actually couped the Mexican government right around the same time.
00:53:48.140 they were trying to install their puppet there.
00:53:49.840 Yeah.
00:53:50.180 Yeah.
00:53:50.880 Didn't work out. 0.96
00:53:52.000 But Mexico then, you know, again, 1.00
00:53:53.660 there's all kinds of puppeteering that goes on,
00:53:56.240 as we know, through the different forces financially.
00:53:59.880 So that's really, I think the key is like
00:54:01.720 America wanting to be a republic independent
00:54:04.560 of the European empires.
00:54:07.660 With the first world war,
00:54:09.400 we made, Wilson made a huge decision,
00:54:12.320 which I think was a huge blunder
00:54:13.740 committing us to that war.
00:54:15.540 We should have been an arbiter.
00:54:16.380 we should have said you know we're not in favor of either empire we're going to just arbitrate you
00:54:21.840 know a peace a peace deal and should have stayed neutral but we didn't we committed ourselves to
00:54:26.840 the british empire and and uh we set up obviously as a result of that with the versailles treaty you
00:54:32.340 know the hurt so many people the second world war followed and we you know obviously again
00:54:36.240 you can get into the whole history of the finance here is behind you know hitler and his rise to
00:54:40.620 power. And so it was like, we're going to play, you know, Germany against, you know, the Soviets 0.58
00:54:45.760 who also got financial support from, from us. So it's, it's the, you know, it became a financier's
00:54:52.480 game. And that's why I say like the power behind the scenes really to me is, is the financial
00:54:56.440 empire. And, you know, the Rothschilds are obviously a part of that. I don't think they
00:55:01.880 have the be all end all of it, but they're a very important force financially. City of London is a
00:55:07.080 very important force and the federal reserve system,
00:55:09.480 which is spawned from that central banking system of England.
00:55:14.720 So that's when we talk about like what, you know,
00:55:18.260 who's the American federal government serving.
00:55:21.720 It's been serving, it's, you know,
00:55:23.600 the expansion of a debt slavery monetary system, right?
00:55:27.660 Because we're borrowing money every time we,
00:55:30.640 they, you know, they're printing money,
00:55:33.180 but they're not, they don't own it.
00:55:35.440 It's not constitutional money in the constitution,
00:55:37.820 gold and silver is constitutional money.
00:55:40.400 Everything else is these paper notes
00:55:42.680 are promissory notes.
00:55:44.200 That's why it's a federal reserve note.
00:55:45.660 When you see a dollar bill says federal reserve note,
00:55:48.060 it's a promissory note, promise to pay, right?
00:55:51.540 So it's all like, it's all debt.
00:55:53.740 And we're just racking up, you know, as we know,
00:55:55.360 whatever at 38, 40 trillion, I don't know.
00:55:58.120 Some unpayable amount.
00:55:59.340 Doesn't matter.
00:56:00.180 I mean, exactly.
00:56:01.020 It's not gonna be, you know, we have to reconfigure this.
00:56:03.400 But it raises the question.
00:56:04.260 So if individuals can make a deal with supernatural forces
00:56:10.020 to serve them in exchange for temporal power,
00:56:13.220 for success in this life, money and authority,
00:56:16.220 and that's clearly true, can nations do the same?
00:56:21.200 I think so.
00:56:22.120 I think it's a kind of, well, yeah.
00:56:28.940 I mean, again, it's like the power of belief.
00:56:34.260 right as a nation and either so we can go back to john d for example um enakian magic who is john d
00:56:45.000 so john d was he was basically like the head of intelligence for queen elizabeth right at the
00:56:50.420 beginning of the british empire elizabeth the first elizabeth the first yeah sorry go back in
00:56:56.280 time to yeah the 1580s yeah exactly the 1580s and and d is the original 007 that's how he signed
00:57:03.780 his signature.
00:57:04.780 So Bond is actually
00:57:05.760 inspired from John Dee.
00:57:07.960 And he was into magic.
00:57:09.640 He basically was working these,
00:57:11.940 what they call the Nockian magic, 0.84
00:57:13.620 because again,
00:57:15.020 derived probably from
00:57:15.620 the Book of Enoch,
00:57:16.440 but he was communing
00:57:17.040 with these beings, watchers,
00:57:18.540 what he considered angels.
00:57:21.280 And he had this, you know,
00:57:22.920 these incantations.
00:57:25.540 He was summoning spirits.
00:57:26.900 He was working with spirits.
00:57:28.100 And the theory is,
00:57:30.820 basically the Shakespearean
00:57:32.140 Tempest play,
00:57:33.780 is inspired from john d as the the wizard in the story is basically john d um that he essentially
00:57:42.100 made the deal for the british empire to become the most powerful empire in the world and it begins
00:57:47.780 with the sinking in the spanish armada which again as everyone knows it was like it was a freak it
00:57:53.060 was a massive storm he got on a tempest and a tempest that basically you know helped to sink
00:57:58.100 that their their plans and their fleet and uh yeah the theory is that he basically made the deal
00:58:05.040 to you know for the british empire but the deal requires um certain level of blood sacrifice
00:58:12.060 and you know some people say that we've inherited the british empire and those demons essentially
00:58:19.420 those same deals i can't especially since 45 since the end of the second world war
00:58:25.700 It is interesting if you think about it. So here you have this island nation with a pretty small
00:58:30.660 population take over the entire world. Quarter of the planet was under there.
00:58:36.840 That's right. So yeah, largest empire, some ways the most amazing empire,
00:58:43.880 but certainly a vast empire. How'd they do that?
00:58:47.760 um yeah i mean it's more than uh guns germs and steel right i mean it's a uh
00:58:56.920 economically the financial component is fascinating you know how they're how they
00:59:05.100 were able to obviously uh you know doing you know with the shipping and whatnot insurance
00:59:09.000 and shipping and you know they controlled you know when they controlled the seas of the western
00:59:13.760 world all the way to india um even to china right they they even they were able to uh honestly
00:59:20.300 control the seas and then they can they basically would trade you know they had uh the certain
00:59:23.920 traffic where they would you know they would take the cotton they would buy the cotton cheap from
00:59:29.140 you know slave labor in america uh sell it over you know sell it over and you know across their
00:59:34.520 empire in india buy the tea there uh buy the the tea and the opium from there from afghanistan which
00:59:41.080 was under India at the time, and then dump the opium on the Chinese and get the silver for that.
00:59:46.340 It's a pretty good trade, right? It's a pretty good deal. 0.95
00:59:48.100 But the core power, you believe, came from a deal.
00:59:53.460 Well, what I see the world is like, it's a spiritual and a material reflection of each other.
00:59:59.720 So what I believe is like when people understand how these workings happen, it's like if you have
01:00:04.740 an intention and you, let's say, undertake a magical working that has enough belief behind
01:00:10.840 let's say enough energy behind it it can manifest in physical form and this is the nature of magic
01:00:17.800 so to me there's always two paths with magic see christ says thy will be done which is the creator's
01:00:23.880 will the the magic of what i would say like the dark side is my will be done and that's what like
01:00:30.440 alistair crowley and other people like this yes you know crowley said he was an incarnation
01:00:35.000 reincarnation of the guy working with john d in the magical ceremony so their mentality is
01:00:43.140 love is under will so basically like love is not the primordial power of creation for them
01:00:50.780 individual ego will is more important than that's a dead end it's interesting because it points to
01:00:56.980 something that i think all of us feel which is that there's something dark about success
01:01:02.960 it can be you know there's that famous line show me the fortune and i'll show you the crime yeah
01:01:08.640 balzac yeah balzac is really reason enough to learn to read french it's just an amazingly
01:01:17.000 hilarious insightful paragorio is one of the great novels anyway yeah balzac show me the
01:01:23.820 fortune i'll show you the crime so um that resonates because and it's not to attack all
01:01:31.500 rich people i mean we're both i guess by some standards rich people but there's a whole other
01:01:37.000 level there's a whole right i mean when you're but again you're talking dynastic people that have
01:01:41.600 like you know made fortunes on again dump selling selling opium to the chinese and you know or
01:01:47.900 selling slaves or selling weapons or you know financing wars like the Rothschilds i mean that's
01:01:53.560 that's a level of crime you know and or pimping people like you know like epstein with you know
01:01:58.940 types you know pimping girls and boys but that's kind of the nature of of grand success in this
01:02:04.420 world isn't it i mean that's maybe the reason that jesus says it's harder for a rich man to
01:02:08.300 get to heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle there's something about it and maybe that
01:02:13.380 something is the deal that is inevitably made with satanic forces in order to get whatever
01:02:22.220 that success i mean you know how many times is that a crazy hypothesis you know people tell me 0.53
01:02:26.140 like the mexican cartels are doing straight black magic they are right that's a fact right and i
01:02:30.920 mean imagine like these are people that are trafficking humans they're trafficking you know 0.78
01:02:35.480 drugs they're they're killing they're they're cutting off heads they're killing with impunity
01:02:39.740 i mean and not just killing but torturing and so that to me is always a sign that there's something
01:02:46.360 um religious going on so you torture others uh for one of two reasons either to elicit information 0.75
01:02:54.980 You know, I'm going to waterboard you
01:02:55.900 until you tell me where the terrorists are.
01:02:57.400 Which, unfortunately, as we know,
01:02:58.480 is not necessarily accurate information.
01:02:59.740 No, no, it's not.
01:03:00.620 It's not.
01:03:01.060 But like, okay, but as a motive.
01:03:02.860 Yeah.
01:03:03.300 Or you're doing it for its own sake
01:03:06.360 because there's something about human suffering
01:03:09.180 that brings you power.
01:03:11.040 And that's when we touch-
01:03:13.740 And pleasure.
01:03:14.220 Which is another-
01:03:15.040 And maybe adrenochrome.
01:03:16.760 In certain cases.
01:03:18.320 That's when we are bumping up
01:03:19.320 against the supernatural realm, right?
01:03:21.180 Because why would you,
01:03:22.780 if you're going to kill somebody,
01:03:23.620 why would you torture him first?
01:03:25.500 But they always do.
01:03:26.960 But see, I would posit it more that
01:03:28.240 when are we not in the supernatural?
01:03:30.780 See, I think that's the shift in consciousness
01:03:33.520 that is required.
01:03:35.760 The great awakening is that we're,
01:03:37.320 people have talked about,
01:03:38.880 especially since COVID is like-
01:03:40.200 Oh no, we're having one.
01:03:41.120 There's no doubt.
01:03:41.680 We are always under the eyes.
01:03:43.520 Like we are always living a supernatural experience.
01:03:45.580 We just, we haven't thought that way.
01:03:49.180 We've been trained to think of it as a material existence.
01:03:51.640 Yes.
01:03:51.940 And the shift now is to say,
01:03:53.080 And no, everything we do has supernatural ramification
01:03:57.540 because it's always choice between serving,
01:04:01.580 again, serving higher self, let's call it,
01:04:04.460 and serving ego.
01:04:06.000 That's to me, that's the eternal battle.
01:04:08.220 Every choice we make, and it's small decisions,
01:04:11.320 big decisions, all this, it all counts.
01:04:14.120 And obviously small decisions
01:04:15.060 probably won't have the greater impact
01:04:16.340 that a bigger decision will.
01:04:18.400 But if we can shift our consciousness
01:04:19.940 to start realizing how I behave at every moment.
01:04:23.380 Is it aligned with my higher version of self or not?
01:04:26.620 This is what we have to do to achieve a better world.
01:04:29.640 If we want to shift into a better reality,
01:04:32.340 then that falls upon us to say,
01:04:34.480 am I following my heart?
01:04:36.220 Am I listening to my heart?
01:04:37.180 Am I listening to intuition?
01:04:38.540 Am I being moral and good in this moment?
01:04:43.780 And I don't think that's the whole point.
01:04:46.440 None of us are perfect,
01:04:47.700 but the whole point of the Christ model
01:04:49.620 as it's a model for us you know this is the way of perfection listen to listen to the words try
01:04:55.700 to imitate the christ and i think we would have a much healthier reality yeah and i mean jesus
01:05:02.740 is really clear that every word you utter every word will be used to judge you like every word
01:05:09.380 matters exactly it's all it's all it's all life force it's it begins with thought that's why like 0.57
01:05:15.060 Like even the Buddhists, you know, the ancient religions, 0.56
01:05:18.080 they always write thought, work on your thoughts 1.00
01:05:20.820 to then correct your speech, to then, you know, change your actions.
01:05:25.380 So it all builds.
01:05:26.000 It's in that exact same passage where he says, you know,
01:05:28.380 the evil heart produces evil actions.
01:05:30.680 Yeah.
01:05:31.020 No, it's so right.
01:05:34.700 So that brings us to the United States,
01:05:36.800 which is the heir to the British Empire.
01:05:38.280 So if the British Empire was the product of this deal
01:05:43.140 that john dee made to bring the tempest to destroy the spanish armada launch britain into control of
01:05:51.460 the west and then that control ends in 1945 with the dropping of the atom bombs on yeah roughly
01:05:58.120 speaking so where does that put the united states government i mean we've been subsumed by
01:06:09.560 the New World Order ideology for a long time.
01:06:14.200 Now, the New World Order ideology
01:06:15.480 came out of the British Empire.
01:06:17.160 It wasn't a conspiracy theory.
01:06:18.500 It was their own language.
01:06:19.820 Because I went back,
01:06:21.180 I was doing my history thesis at college,
01:06:23.580 and I was like reading some of the minutes
01:06:24.860 of these conferences.
01:06:26.440 They kept saying New World Order.
01:06:28.100 It was their own language.
01:06:30.620 They wanted to basically continue the empire
01:06:33.000 and in a more informal way,
01:06:34.860 because they realized the empire was,
01:06:37.280 you know, it was getting a lot of flack, right?
01:06:38.660 They couldn't sustain it militarily.
01:06:40.700 They didn't have the manpower. 0.90
01:06:41.660 They wanted to bring America.
01:06:42.820 And clearly, Cecil Rhodes,
01:06:45.500 who was the great imperialist of South Africa, Rhodesia, 0.59
01:06:49.500 getting the diamond mines set up
01:06:51.360 and the gold mines and whatnot.
01:06:54.220 And his benefactor was Lord Rothschild.
01:06:57.460 And Rhodes was in his will saying,
01:07:00.320 we want to reclaim the Holy Lands 0.90
01:07:02.240 and we want to bring America back 0.95
01:07:04.540 basically within the empire.
01:07:07.820 So that was the agenda
01:07:09.280 from the end of the 19th century,
01:07:12.300 bringing America to be like the military might
01:07:16.360 of the Western financial system, right?
01:07:20.340 That takes place clearly
01:07:21.680 between World War I and World War II.
01:07:24.060 As you said, we then take over
01:07:25.700 for the British empire, 0.88
01:07:26.680 all of its former colonies
01:07:27.660 and the French colonies, including Vietnam.
01:07:30.740 Why do we end up in Vietnam more?
01:07:32.160 It's a French colony.
01:07:32.800 It's Indochina, yeah.
01:07:33.600 Yeah, Indochina. 0.97
01:07:34.400 um why do we you know take on uh turkey and greece you know to defend against the soviets that's all
01:07:40.380 the british imperial realm the middle east again the french and british carved up the middle east
01:07:45.740 all these countries are essentially you know creations of the british and the french
01:07:49.720 um so we inherit the empire and basically ally with this idea of of uh you know the war the
01:07:59.660 The world game, Russia had been the enemy of the British.
01:08:03.680 They became our enemy.
01:08:06.700 And that's a whole complicated issue, 0.82
01:08:08.960 but essentially, partly it's dynastic families
01:08:12.640 wanting the wealth of the others.
01:08:15.240 And that's perhaps why they couped the czar
01:08:18.820 to get their fortune and get them out of power 0.88
01:08:22.180 and put the Soviets in, partly as an experiment, 0.80
01:08:25.940 partly as a way to keep Russia out of, 0.55
01:08:28.620 i don't know i guess you could say like um separated from the western world to create like
01:08:34.400 an enemy going forward because as we know we backed hitler at the beginning to go against
01:08:38.960 russia that was the whole deal was like you're gonna fight the russians kind of like uh we
01:08:43.320 backed iraq to fight the iranians in the 80s you know it's the old divide and conquer technique
01:08:48.620 um so yeah so russia had been the british enemy we we inherited that and then um we basically
01:08:56.040 bought into the new world order ideology that's why we kept going into this globalist mentality
01:09:00.800 for decades you know of committing ourselves there's a supernatural element too it seems
01:09:06.220 obvious it was only in the last year after a lifetime of living next to it that i realized
01:09:12.880 the pentagon is in the shape of a pentagram yes yes why of all potential architectural designs
01:09:19.880 would you put your headquartered military in a pentagram?
01:09:24.300 Again, the stars that soldiers wear,
01:09:27.500 it's like, as you know,
01:09:28.340 like if you've seen movies or whatnot,
01:09:30.420 like the pentagram or pentagon pentagram
01:09:32.740 is a very common image for,
01:09:36.180 can be for protection.
01:09:37.640 There's an invocation of protection through it.
01:09:40.560 And then there's also the inverted pentagram,
01:09:44.320 which is oftentimes used for sacrifice.
01:09:47.040 Like you'll see it in films, right?
01:09:49.580 where they'll put the pentagram on the floor
01:09:51.880 and within a circle
01:09:53.220 and then they'll do a ritual sacrifice within it.
01:09:55.360 Yeah, well, it's the central image of Satanism.
01:09:57.260 Yeah, exactly.
01:09:57.880 The inverted horns, right?
01:09:59.880 It's like the horns,
01:10:01.020 it's the inversion of the pentagram.
01:10:03.400 So again, it can be used either way.
01:10:06.440 We're a little dull on symbolism, I notice,
01:10:07.540 in our culture for some reason.
01:10:09.320 More people are waking up.
01:10:11.000 But we went through this period where,
01:10:12.920 you know, for all of history,
01:10:14.040 symbols really matter.
01:10:15.120 Yeah.
01:10:15.380 They really matter.
01:10:16.240 Yeah.
01:10:17.200 In a lot of world, they still matter.
01:10:18.400 And then in the West, for the last 80 years,
01:10:20.380 symbols are just null and void.
01:10:21.800 Like your average person is not allowed
01:10:23.300 to notice the symbolism in anything.
01:10:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:10:26.120 No, we have to.
01:10:27.080 Poetry dies, metaphor dies.
01:10:28.720 Exactly.
01:10:29.340 The spiritual life withers.
01:10:31.340 And we just don't notice that.
01:10:33.540 Our military is headquartered
01:10:35.480 in a building called the Pentagon.
01:10:37.820 And by the way,
01:10:38.460 I learned this from you at breakfast this morning.
01:10:39.980 I have no idea what it means,
01:10:41.280 but I was amazed to learn
01:10:42.600 that the cornerstone of the Pentagon
01:10:44.960 was laid on September 11th, 1941.
01:10:48.400 60 years to the day that the flight was flight 77 I think was flown into it
01:10:56.760 77 is 77 is a magical number too so you know again I think of these events as mass rituals
01:11:06.220 I mean I'm look I I just learned this this morning eating my omelet so I um I haven't
01:11:12.840 thought about it at all but I I that's kind of the point I'm making yeah I heard that plane
01:11:18.320 I was close enough to hear the plane
01:11:19.760 or whatever.
01:11:20.540 I heard that impact of something.
01:11:22.400 Well, we never saw the video, right?
01:11:23.620 I'm aware.
01:11:24.500 I'm aware.
01:11:25.180 The whole thing is bizarre,
01:11:26.480 but I'm only making the point
01:11:28.280 that I was very aware that it happened.
01:11:30.080 I had a friend on that plane,
01:11:31.640 et cetera, et cetera.
01:11:33.120 Why am I now 25 years later
01:11:35.640 for the first time learning
01:11:37.300 that the Pentagon cornerstone was laid
01:11:39.460 on September 11th, 1941?
01:11:42.840 No.
01:11:43.400 Like you'd think in the coverage of it,
01:11:44.820 they'd be like, hey, this is kind of weird.
01:11:46.400 Yeah, the 60th anniversary, you'd think so, right?
01:11:49.000 I never heard that.
01:11:49.860 Did you know that?
01:11:50.820 Yeah, I'd read about it, but I don't even think I'd read.
01:11:53.420 No, but at the time, was that like on World News Tonight?
01:11:55.660 At the time, I mean, I was as clueless
01:11:59.040 at the time when it happened.
01:12:00.360 I just thought, look, here's all I knew about 9-11
01:12:03.580 was that nothing made sense
01:12:05.000 because I was in Somaliland in the summer, in July,
01:12:09.500 and we got notices from the State Department,
01:12:12.520 facts saying, you know, be careful to all foreign,
01:12:15.240 you know all nationals all american nationals abroad um like there's basically like rumor
01:12:20.340 around like a terrorist plot so be like be a high alert i was in maine that summer and they didn't
01:12:25.720 send us any notice at all no i guess i should have been in somaliland so so i mean we already
01:12:34.240 were like kind of it was like oh it's interesting that we got the notice that obviously some intel
01:12:39.260 intel something's coming across intel you know channels to say that and i'm not sure if anyone
01:12:45.660 ever reported on that in the um you know in the investigation of like the intelligence labs but
01:12:51.620 again i just i never believed the official story and the more i looked at it the more
01:12:57.580 it just didn't add up you know the takedown of the towers by
01:13:01.260 i mean just structurally speaking you know you have you know that the plane hit the uh
01:13:08.300 the Empire State Building back in 46.
01:13:11.960 Remember that?
01:13:12.720 Yeah, of course.
01:13:13.500 It was a military plane at the time.
01:13:15.300 It was a bomber.
01:13:16.020 A bomber in a collapse.
01:13:17.960 Well, Donald Trump is on tape
01:13:19.680 on the morning of 9-11 saying,
01:13:21.540 I can't, I don't know.
01:13:22.660 How could that have happened?
01:13:23.760 I know those buildings well.
01:13:26.260 I was there when they were built
01:13:27.220 in the early 70s
01:13:28.420 and the steel and those things
01:13:29.620 is stronger than any building in New York
01:13:31.460 and there's no way.
01:13:32.500 But now you think about the nature of ritual 0.69
01:13:34.240 and what was created was a Holocaust, 0.79
01:13:36.800 which is literally a mass burning.
01:13:38.300 and uh this is i don't know if you remember the movie called wicker man no wicker man it was uh
01:13:45.140 it was kind of a film about these pagan satanists or you know who they do a ritual around one of
01:13:52.620 the equinoxes i think it was like a summer equinox and they do like a they have this guy
01:13:58.180 in this town realizing that these guys are witches and all of a sudden he finds himself
01:14:01.680 inside of this massive wicker man being burned alive and it's played out every summer by the way
01:14:08.440 in a festival called burning man yeah here in uh nevada i guess right in the desert
01:14:14.220 the burning man ritual the burning of the man annually so i mean this again these are ritual
01:14:21.700 things that people partake in without understanding what they're giving their energy to that's right
01:14:25.840 that's exactly right so i mean up until the second world war it would have been obvious to every
01:14:33.520 western man that life revolves around ritual and that ritual describes to us concepts that our
01:14:41.040 brains are not capable of fully grasping you know the communion in christianity it's like yeah
01:14:47.300 there's a great debate over exactly what that is but it's the center to the practice of the religion
01:14:51.820 and it doesn't make any sense from a scientific point of view you're ingesting the flesh and
01:14:57.680 blood of jesus like what but to christians um again it's it's the holy eucharist and that
01:15:05.700 makes sense to people because there's no other way to describe the things that are of this life
01:15:11.980 that are that profound so um yeah but our understanding of how central ritual is to life
01:15:18.460 has just been stripped from us completely.
01:15:20.060 So we totally miss it.
01:15:21.280 We don't even know that the Pentagon gets hit
01:15:23.200 on the 60th anniversary of its,
01:15:24.960 of the beginning of its construction.
01:15:27.780 That's so boring.
01:15:29.080 Well, you think about the nature of,
01:15:31.460 well, first of all, like television has,
01:15:33.520 a lot of it has like disrupted like ritual cycles
01:15:36.380 and whatnot, like the cycles of our, you know,
01:15:38.440 of our energy of going down with the sunset,
01:15:41.320 like, you know, coming in,
01:15:42.420 sitting around the hearth, telling stories,
01:15:44.280 listening to the spirit, to the, again,
01:15:46.420 being more connected to the spiritual world.
01:15:47.740 now the spiritual world does come in through television it's just not the way we imagine it
01:15:52.520 because we think this is like something different but it's all going into our psyche and so the as
01:15:58.260 you know the brain it's processing it the same you know how do you say it's processing and taking
01:16:03.120 this information just as it would reality so it's a it's it's definitely affecting the way we
01:16:09.060 interface with reality yes and um and again this goes back to what we're talking about the power
01:16:13.700 of the magic of media.
01:16:16.640 And I think people that are storytelling,
01:16:22.540 they can be, some are practicing darkness.
01:16:27.400 I think others are practicing light.
01:16:29.620 And I think there's those that are just unaware,
01:16:31.520 unconsciously perpetuating things.
01:16:35.340 But there does seem to be something very dark in Hollywood.
01:16:39.660 And it's like a subversion.
01:16:41.940 You grew up there.
01:16:42.560 so did you sense that what i sense with hollywood is um
01:16:53.840 there's definitely more like there's definitely like
01:16:57.120 let's be clear uh there's definitely a babylonian quality to it right there's definitely uh people
01:17:04.720 People write him in cuneiform.
01:17:06.620 Oh, okay.
01:17:07.060 There's debauchery.
01:17:07.920 I mean, you know, it's like everyone knew 0.97
01:17:10.300 Harvey Weinstein was a monster.
01:17:13.880 Yeah. 1.00
01:17:14.160 Not just with women. 0.99
01:17:15.420 He was a monster with business. 0.99
01:17:17.060 Of course. 0.97
01:17:17.860 I knew him.
01:17:18.840 I knew that.
01:17:19.240 Right?
01:17:19.620 I mean, everyone knew that.
01:17:21.200 He was, but he was just accepted.
01:17:24.080 And it's just like kind of like the casting couch.
01:17:26.180 It's just like, oh, it's just accepted.
01:17:27.720 This is the way things are.
01:17:29.620 You know, the Epstein, I'm sure people,
01:17:31.940 you know, I'm sure a lot of people knew
01:17:32.880 what Epstein was.
01:17:33.900 I never heard about him before 20, whatever, 16, 17, 18, in that timeframe. But I'm sure a lot of
01:17:41.960 people that were around him just knew like, oh yeah, he's into this or he's into that because
01:17:46.320 people talk, right? But it's amazing how unless you're part of those circles, you don't really
01:17:54.120 know what's going on. And that's why to this day, people will say, well, JFK, the assassination,
01:17:58.940 It must, you know,
01:17:59.780 they couldn't have kept the secret.
01:18:00.980 I'm like, people in the know have talked,
01:18:04.360 but you're just not in the know
01:18:05.440 because it hasn't been perpetuated through media.
01:18:07.700 So unless it gets perpetuated through media,
01:18:09.680 we don't hear about it
01:18:11.080 and we don't think it exists.
01:18:12.740 Yeah, I mean, you just said the truest thing
01:18:15.220 that I didn't understand until later in life,
01:18:18.100 even though I spent my whole life in the media.
01:18:21.280 The idea that like, if it's more than two people,
01:18:24.040 no one can keep a secret.
01:18:25.040 Well, none of these secrets have been kept.
01:18:26.520 They're all out there.
01:18:28.240 i've heard a lot of this stuff a million times i just discounted it and it was not part of the
01:18:33.500 prevailing story we were told so i just didn't think it was real like like didn't um wasn't
01:18:39.340 not cardi b what's her name one of these rappers just came out talking about like all this stuff
01:18:43.460 in the epstein they're eating she said in the music industry they're they're they're eating
01:18:46.760 babies and drinking blood y'all you know which which rapper was it was it cardi or i don't know
01:18:51.920 it's every week there's a new rapper yeah the truth but no one takes them seriously because
01:18:55.160 they're rappers yeah exactly but she said something this effect and you know like mariah
01:18:58.640 carey's sister said that you know she was a kid she grew up she talked about it before she died
01:19:03.020 mariah carey's sister um and uh it's in the best kept secret docuseries um that i put out but
01:19:09.040 basically she said like she grew up with things that were like done that were you know indescribably
01:19:13.820 horrible you know like you can't fathom um and she died she died like a few years after that
01:19:19.940 she came out saying it. People will sometimes come out and say things and it'll be like a blip.
01:19:27.400 And I think this is my way of thinking is more like if in the middle of the night,
01:19:33.920 I see something fly across the sky, which I've done like driving in Beverly Hills,
01:19:38.860 driving home at like two in the morning, I saw like a craft, you know, fly overhead,
01:19:43.500 not so fast. It was more like a, it was almost, I don't want to say like,
01:19:48.720 it almost would be like an advanced version of a stealth bomber. It wasn't a stealth bomber,
01:19:53.140 but it was like a craft that was moving very fast, low to the ground, right over Beverly Hills.
01:19:58.300 So I look at that and go, okay, I've just glimpsed reality. Someone else might go,
01:20:02.720 that's just crazy. I'm just going to ignore that. So to me, I'm like, okay, this is what's really
01:20:08.720 going on. I want to look over here now. And that's just the way that I see things. And other people
01:20:13.240 will just be like, I once saw a UFO, but you know what? That's just so crazy. I'm just going to go
01:20:17.520 back to the mundane world exactly right that's exactly right but big picture of people trying
01:20:23.160 to are trying to understand not simply are they eating babies but why would someone do something
01:20:29.960 like yeah well you get to the nature of the deal that every person faces i think
01:20:36.580 the potential which is the same as the temptation of jesus but um before me and all this will be
01:20:42.120 yours yeah but in exchange for whatever you're getting bloodshed yeah is the cost yeah because
01:20:51.000 depravity it's like you know once you've once you've it's like the dog that's like tasted blood
01:20:57.780 right it's the uh you know you can't go back you've you've crossed a threshold you've crossed
01:21:04.780 a barrier that we're not supposed to cross right that all shall not kill okay well if you do you're
01:21:11.900 you're probably gonna have remorse.
01:21:13.280 If you do it just, you know,
01:21:14.120 especially just for defense purposes,
01:21:15.960 you're still probably gonna have some level of remorse.
01:21:21.080 I know sociopaths don't.
01:21:24.120 No, that's right.
01:21:24.960 So there's like a whole other caliber of psychology
01:21:27.640 and maybe demon possession there.
01:21:29.520 But as humans, we would have remorse.
01:21:32.760 But once you've gone back, you can't take that back, can you?
01:21:36.200 Like you've stained your soul.
01:21:39.340 That's something that you can't, you know,
01:21:40.780 you can steal something and make amends.
01:21:43.220 You can, you know, you can,
01:21:45.460 all crime is theft,
01:21:47.040 but there's different degrees of theft, right?
01:21:50.760 You can steal people's time.
01:21:52.320 You can steal their energy.
01:21:53.100 You can steal belongings.
01:21:54.280 But if you steal life, there's no,
01:21:55.940 how do you return that?
01:21:57.260 There's no restitution.
01:21:59.720 I'm extrapolating out to the, you know,
01:22:02.700 to the scale of empire here
01:22:04.040 and trying to understand why empires
01:22:06.420 tend to commit themselves to war
01:22:09.200 even when they don't get anything out of it.
01:22:14.900 And I'm-
01:22:15.620 Someone's getting out of it.
01:22:16.440 I mean-
01:22:17.120 I just wonder though,
01:22:18.200 if like the cost of staying on top
01:22:21.680 isn't killing people just by its nature.
01:22:24.140 Yeah.
01:22:25.000 Well, and again, I mean, different arguments.
01:22:28.360 I mean, you go back to like, 0.61
01:22:29.500 what was the point of Vietnam?
01:22:31.380 You know, if Vietnam fell to the communists,
01:22:33.400 like what the heck does that have to do with anything?
01:22:36.260 What's the point of the Russia-Ukraine war?
01:22:38.800 why would you want to keep that going the only thing that you're getting out of that is you know
01:22:44.380 weapons testing and money transfers and all stuff but ultimately what you're getting is millions of
01:22:48.840 dead people yes maybe that's the point maybe it is blood sacrifice right right to a degree i think
01:22:54.540 that's from a higher perspective there does seem to be truth to that and i think look this is a
01:23:01.800 realm of mind right we've since the fall of adam and eve we fell into mind so before this there was
01:23:08.400 order there was perfect it was perfectly guided let's say and then we fell that story is not just
01:23:14.020 adam and eve it's atlantis it's all these things right they fell into the mind what does that mean
01:23:18.480 the mind everything we experience is the mind we don't know anything outside of our own minds
01:23:24.200 right so before the fall we existed well we didn't have well i mean presumably we we if
01:23:33.940 if we trusted like the lord basically just had perfected and ordered everything we didn't have
01:23:41.060 choice we didn't have free will we didn't have mind we didn't have anything to mirror we
01:23:45.380 saw ourselves for the first time the mind is like a mirror self-awareness i am separate from you
01:23:51.140 if everything before that it was just oneness right it was just you know you just you knew
01:23:56.020 you you were you you could be i mean it's kind of like an angelic order let's say i mean again
01:24:00.900 Again, we're making assumptions here,
01:24:02.740 but essentially what we know is that with self-awareness
01:24:07.760 comes the sight, the of separation.
01:24:10.640 And so we are in a realm of mind
01:24:13.360 where everything gets mirrored in some way.
01:24:15.460 Every thought has to manifest.
01:24:16.860 With self-awareness comes separation, that is.
01:24:19.680 Yeah, the illusion of separation.
01:24:21.320 I mean, ultimately I believe that we're all
01:24:22.720 from the same oneness and I believe it's God's universe.
01:24:24.900 So there's really nothing to be afraid of, right?
01:24:28.440 Because if we choose, we can ascend higher.
01:24:33.040 We can go back to the light.
01:24:35.440 But there's no, the illusion of separation is that.
01:24:38.560 It's just an illusion.
01:24:41.100 Our ego feels separate.
01:24:42.520 Our ego feels like, I'm me.
01:24:44.480 This is my body.
01:24:45.380 This is my name.
01:24:46.200 This is what I've done.
01:24:47.620 So that's why I say it's a battle between ego and higher self.
01:24:49.760 Higher self is like, no, we're just instruments of the creator.
01:24:53.800 I can let go of ego now.
01:24:55.680 I don't have to feel like anything belongs to me.
01:24:58.440 anything I do is not mine, glory to the creator.
01:25:03.840 We're just instruments here.
01:25:05.200 We're just playing our roles.
01:25:06.700 And hopefully this is, well, I believe,
01:25:09.420 this is all for our evolution and understanding
01:25:12.360 and recognizing, hopefully developing more empathy,
01:25:14.940 more compassion, more love.
01:25:17.520 That should be, I think our goal on this planet.
01:25:22.060 But yeah, in the realm of mind,
01:25:24.260 mind has to go somewhere.
01:25:26.100 So if I have hateful thoughts,
01:25:28.100 It has to go somewhere to project.
01:25:30.360 How does it, as we know,
01:25:32.000 like five hateful thoughts or angry thoughts,
01:25:33.940 it's gonna be the way I treat my children,
01:25:37.140 my loved ones, my family, my friends.
01:25:40.800 It's gonna go somewhere.
01:25:41.640 It's gonna go into war.
01:25:42.980 It's gonna manifest somewhere, right?
01:25:45.480 And that's where we are still.
01:25:46.520 We're in a place of strong polarity, right?
01:25:50.100 Everything is being, you know, as light as it is,
01:25:52.640 as dark as it is in this realm.
01:25:54.960 So it has, like, that energy has to go into war
01:25:58.520 until we clean up our thoughts and stop hating each other.
01:26:02.920 Until then, we're gonna have war.
01:26:06.240 But there's also a sense in which bloodshed, war,
01:26:10.280 violence, killing is the food that keeps the dark energy.
01:26:18.340 Yeah, but it starts with us.
01:26:20.080 It starts with us, like every, like, that's the whole,
01:26:23.080 That's why I just say like,
01:26:25.260 the good news is they don't have any power
01:26:27.980 unless we give it to them.
01:26:30.420 If we give them power, if we give them attention,
01:26:32.760 if we give them energy, if we feed them our fear,
01:26:35.520 that's what Christ was saying.
01:26:36.860 Let go of the fear, just have faith.
01:26:40.340 Let faith replace the fear.
01:26:42.100 And that was what I had to go through
01:26:43.660 in my two, three year journey
01:26:46.380 of like having these dark experiences
01:26:48.940 and like being haunted by things
01:26:50.500 that were like energetically tangible, my reality was like, okay, I surrender. Like I
01:26:57.300 surrender to the higher power. I have faith. So you can't have my soul because it doesn't belong
01:27:02.220 to you. And I think that's the point is if every one of us just in our own lives takes inventory,
01:27:08.220 okay, we have fears. It's natural. Some fears are like deep, right? And paranoid. Others are
01:27:15.260 you know, just existential, like there's a predator, there's a threat, okay? But if we can
01:27:20.820 like face our fears, own our fears and find deeper faith, we will create a better reality
01:27:26.860 because the dark will have less food. It's our choice. Does it feel like some social media are
01:27:35.760 designed to inspire fear and hate? Of course. Because again, it's just, it's being perpetuated
01:27:41.960 through people that are unconscious,
01:27:45.680 I would say like the,
01:27:47.620 I don't think there's that many
01:27:48.600 like dark sorcerers in the world.
01:27:50.560 I think there are a few.
01:27:51.620 I think there are definitely some people
01:27:52.640 that commune and know what they're doing,
01:27:54.660 you know, like ritualistically.
01:27:57.160 But I think most people are just unconscious
01:27:58.920 and they're just seeking worldly delight,
01:28:01.980 worldly temptation, worldly power.
01:28:03.960 Yes.
01:28:04.500 Right?
01:28:04.780 And they're just unconsciously not sure why,
01:28:06.580 but they're just like,
01:28:07.200 well, that seems safe.
01:28:10.280 You know, I don't want to lose my,
01:28:11.600 I don't want to lose what I have.
01:28:13.060 I don't want to, you know,
01:28:13.720 I want to maintain and preserve,
01:28:15.720 but you can't.
01:28:17.240 This world is ephemeral.
01:28:18.300 It's passing, right?
01:28:19.460 We know this.
01:28:20.360 It's the way it's designed.
01:28:21.420 We're supposed to be able to let go
01:28:22.820 and again, commune with a higher power.
01:28:25.580 And that's the greater energy.
01:28:26.820 And that actually was what really preserves you.
01:28:28.420 And that's when you get to that place of,
01:28:30.300 you know, what the saints and people like
01:28:32.060 that can glow and that can actually like emit,
01:28:34.060 you know, emit light, right?
01:28:35.640 You know, all these examples of what Christ is.
01:28:38.960 this is where we're supposed to we're supposed to uh imitate is to try to bring more light
01:28:45.460 into the world and so um if we're not how do you say if people are not there but they're
01:28:53.500 putting out these things they're just reflecting themselves so a lot of these going back to
01:28:58.020 hollywood like a lot of these creators are just that's the level that they're at their consciousness
01:29:01.340 is at that level their consciousness is full of you know their mind is full of you name it
01:29:06.440 perversion, negativity, angst, fear.
01:29:09.680 So they're perpetuating that.
01:29:11.580 They're not coming from a higher modality.
01:29:14.020 They're not coming from a higher place.
01:29:16.120 That's just, they can only reflect what they are.
01:29:21.220 Do you think it's more obvious in Hollywood
01:29:22.640 than in other places?
01:29:26.880 At power centers.
01:29:27.740 I mean, there's a lot of power centers.
01:29:28.940 London is a power center.
01:29:30.880 Hollywood's a power center.
01:29:31.960 New York's a power center.
01:29:33.020 I mean, every city is like a hub
01:29:34.280 because how much energy gets, you know, how do you say it?
01:29:36.980 Like there's so many more people there,
01:29:38.440 there's so much more attention,
01:29:39.860 but obviously Hollywood is this magnifier of consciousness.
01:29:46.900 And so I think that wherever the consciousness goes,
01:29:50.880 even collectively, you could say,
01:29:53.320 Hollywood shifts accordingly.
01:29:55.160 I don't think Hollywood itself is sitting there like,
01:29:57.800 they're sitting there going like, this is the way it is.
01:30:00.520 It's like their barometer of where consciousness is.
01:30:04.280 And so it's, how do you explain it?
01:30:07.400 It's almost like reflecting each other.
01:30:12.320 They put out darkness.
01:30:13.840 People want that.
01:30:14.660 They feed into it.
01:30:15.980 That's where the collective is.
01:30:17.680 The collective wants to experience this.
01:30:19.620 They want to go into darkness.
01:30:20.740 They want to go into experience the darkness.
01:30:22.380 Okay.
01:30:23.060 When you get to a certain point, you wake up.
01:30:24.900 You say, I'm tired of the nightmare.
01:30:27.160 And I think that's where we are.
01:30:28.740 That's what the awakening means.
01:30:30.640 I'm sorry.
01:30:31.040 You know, it's like people saying, okay, you know what?
01:30:32.260 Enough of the nightmare.
01:30:32.900 let's change the story
01:30:35.340 and people rejecting Hollywood accordingly
01:30:36.960 and saying yeah unless you guys shift
01:30:39.320 the narratives we're not going to watch
01:30:40.660 your content anymore
01:30:41.940 the more we shift the more Hollywood will shift
01:30:45.060 so it's a dance
01:30:46.960 Hollywood cannot survive
01:30:49.480 without the audience
01:30:50.400 you cannot you know drug dealers
01:30:52.720 can't survive without the drug addicts
01:30:55.620 we collectively have to 0.52
01:30:57.460 shift our consciousness
01:30:59.140 and everything will change
01:31:00.580 i believe that i notice it with ai um most people including i think the people who are creating i
01:31:10.400 aren't really exactly sure what it's going to be yeah um what the effects are going to be but the
01:31:16.080 only publicity about ai that's coming out of the developers of ai is negative and terrifying
01:31:21.740 there's been i've noticed since this for the last three or four years there's been no real effort
01:31:26.600 to explain to you or me or anyone
01:31:28.140 how this is going to be great for us.
01:31:30.120 And a lot of effort put into telling us
01:31:32.680 this is going to end everything that we love,
01:31:34.640 including human autonomy,
01:31:36.480 our jobs, our economy. 0.71
01:31:38.280 It'll basically be a slave state run by machines.
01:31:40.840 That's what they're telling us.
01:31:41.740 The people who are making it are telling us that.
01:31:45.680 And so my instinct is
01:31:47.280 they're trying to terrify us for some reason,
01:31:50.200 and it may just be because that feeds
01:31:52.180 the dark spiritual powers that are creating it.
01:31:55.800 yeah i think i think ai is just like everything it's just both dark and light you know it's like
01:32:00.700 the internet right you can find the darkest things out there you can find you can find great
01:32:05.840 information right you can find the books of the world if you want to read them and it's just
01:32:11.380 going to be a question of where human consciousness will take it um you know again i i believe that
01:32:17.460 you know again because this is god's universe i do have like a more positive view of like where
01:32:22.500 all this is going when we were post 9 11 it was a dark i could feel the darkness man i could feel
01:32:29.220 it before 9 11 i could feel war coming from about 2000 the year 2000 2001 i was like feel like i
01:32:36.160 could feel the energy of war and the darkness of the 2000s i felt like war on terror was literally
01:32:41.700 terror it was it was about terror it was about terrorizing everybody you know it was literally
01:32:47.060 like terrorizing the was a war of terror exactly yeah it was terror for everybody the american
01:32:51.500 public, the broad. So that era was like, this shift in consciousness was, again, it was a pretty
01:33:00.520 dark phase. I think now we are almost like operating in different realities simultaneously,
01:33:06.960 which is kind of cool. And I think it's almost, I feel more like choose your adventure. What do
01:33:12.340 you want to do with technology? What do you want to do with the world that you're in? And
01:33:17.700 And just trust that this is all like for our evolution as souls to basically be reminded of the light, to return to the light ultimately, to reascend, I hope, in time.
01:33:34.720 I think that would be the goal, right?
01:33:37.520 Is to return to a state of more closeness to God.
01:33:43.400 But you have to be separated to want to go back, right?
01:33:47.180 A lot of people are looking forward to going back right now, all of a sudden.
01:33:51.720 So we're told that there's going to be some kind of disclosure about UAPs, UFOs by the
01:33:58.120 federal government.
01:33:59.540 What are UFOs?
01:34:02.060 So I think we have reverse engineer technology that's been talked about for a long time.
01:34:10.120 Certainly like Roswell is a famous incident.
01:34:12.200 from what my understanding of it something did crash and there was a huge military response and
01:34:17.400 then you know the idea of a weather balloon and then they changed the story twice it was originally
01:34:21.340 like yeah weather balloon and then it was like some other thing they basically the guy like they
01:34:28.740 had the guy that was there initially uh i can't remember the name he was a military intel guy he
01:34:34.380 took it back to like his family like a piece of the metal and it was it was like very strong but
01:34:39.260 But at the same time, it was like,
01:34:41.260 you could actually like slightly bend it,
01:34:42.820 but it would come back
01:34:43.660 and it was unlike any metal they'd ever seen.
01:34:46.760 So this was described by him and then his son,
01:34:50.100 but he was basically forced to take the photo,
01:34:53.680 the famous photo.
01:34:54.520 I think his name was Marcel.
01:34:55.360 Like he had the famous photo,
01:34:56.800 like holding the weather balloon.
01:34:59.500 And to say like, it was just a weather balloon.
01:35:02.020 And like, he basically was forced to take that picture.
01:35:06.880 I think since that time,
01:35:07.860 We've been reverse engineering.
01:35:09.840 I've talked to way too many people 1.00
01:35:11.200 who are part of black programs 1.00
01:35:13.320 or I've seen, we have a secret space program.
01:35:17.680 The US Space Force is older than Trump.
01:35:21.440 They basically brought it from the hidden
01:35:24.240 to the more public side now.
01:35:28.680 But for example, I talked to Dr. Fred Bell.
01:35:31.420 Do you remember to know him at all?
01:35:32.720 Fred Bell was a very famous guy in the UFO community
01:35:37.060 because he had worked with the government
01:35:38.740 and he was also writing books
01:35:40.460 about like alien technology and consciousness
01:35:42.760 and things like this, quantum physics, brilliant guy.
01:35:46.280 So we interviewed him for Conspiracy Theory,
01:35:48.380 the show I used to do with Jesse Ventura.
01:35:50.660 And he was talking about mind war,
01:35:55.080 like using frequency for like, you know,
01:35:58.420 affecting people's thoughts
01:35:59.520 and being able to affect people at a distance, right?
01:36:02.800 Through various technologies.
01:36:05.240 but off the record he was like i shouldn't tell you guys this because my cia my cia handler would
01:36:11.380 not be happy with me but i've been to the one like some of these underground military facilities
01:36:16.420 and he's like i've even met what you would call like a gray alien like he's like i shook hands
01:36:22.920 with one you know and he's like they're you know they're down there like in these facilities we
01:36:28.280 have these these joint partnerships within 24 hours of that conversation off the record he was
01:36:35.900 dead he died in his hotel room before he could before he could leave uh minnesota where he was
01:36:42.140 after your interview doing the interview yeah yeah he died of a heart attack a lot of people
01:36:48.600 involved in the space program in a kind of spooky science connected to the federal government have
01:36:55.020 died or disappeared recently yeah like a lot it's like 11 that they've confirmed missing or dead
01:37:02.200 yeah it seems like a lot nuclear yeah from everything from like fusion programs to
01:37:07.920 nassau scientists um certainly in the age of view of disclosure which we've been living through the
01:37:14.140 last few years it's curious more curious uh at first i thought people were saying like the
01:37:18.360 they were suspecting the chinese but do you remember look i mean we still never got an
01:37:22.000 answer to those drones no last New Jersey last year they were all over not just Jersey they were
01:37:27.340 all over like from Eastern seaboard right Virginia I mean multiple states I mean you get this kind of
01:37:33.160 stuff all the time you know these anomalies I actually asked about that um because Trump was
01:37:40.000 gonna disclose what it was remember during the campaign he said I'm gonna get to the bottom of
01:37:43.960 this and and then he said oh it's not a big deal and I asked yeah well I gotta it's not a big deal
01:37:48.700 like Epstein, Epstein's not a big deal.
01:37:50.440 Yeah, not a big deal.
01:37:51.820 But what were those?
01:37:54.940 Listen, I look at this world.
01:37:57.020 I mean, you ever see those paintings,
01:37:58.200 some of those old paintings,
01:37:59.300 and you see like these little drone looking things in them.
01:38:03.640 I just look at this world like we are being observed,
01:38:07.140 the watchers, they're again, dark and light.
01:38:10.500 They're observing this experiment of the fall, right?
01:38:15.100 We've fallen, but God is always watching,
01:38:17.820 God's permitting. And, you know, there's beings that are interested in our genetics. That's for
01:38:24.420 sure. The eugenics thing is ancient. Why are, eugenics is ancient? Well, we talked about it, 0.98
01:38:31.460 like the idea of creating humans, some of which were of royal bloodline or from the deities and
01:38:38.800 others are just more like workers. I think it's ancient. I mean, isn't it curious, like the
01:38:46.240 different races, you know, where do we, do we all just come from one race and we become like darker
01:38:50.820 skin, lighter, or are we actually like different bloodlines, right? They're different blood types.
01:38:55.300 So is it just evolutionary or is there something else, you know, going on in terms of, I think,
01:39:01.480 you know, genetics connects to consciousness because as we know, like the eugenics interest,
01:39:07.360 it's extreme. I mean, by the way, we gave birth to Hitler because the eugenics conferences were
01:39:12.160 were here first. 0.87
01:39:13.160 They were British and American eugenics conferences.
01:39:16.480 And a lot of them, yeah, we're racist, absolutely.
01:39:19.160 But the interest in the idea that like consciousness,
01:39:24.820 as we talked about the brain and the like is a receiver,
01:39:28.780 then of course, different genetics
01:39:31.360 are gonna receive information differently.
01:39:33.780 You know, the body, how we experience reality
01:39:36.280 is through this body.
01:39:38.240 So isn't it, if, you know, if we believe in souls
01:39:41.160 and the journey that we go through in our life,
01:39:45.600 our body is very connected to that experience.
01:39:48.500 So of course, there's a fascination with,
01:39:51.580 how much is a contingent on our genetic makeup
01:39:56.480 and our propensities, for example.
01:40:00.840 For about 50 years in the United States,
01:40:03.200 it was basically not allowed for people to mention
01:40:08.640 any of this in public,
01:40:09.540 it was hitler stuff or whatever they said about it they changed the name they called it um they
01:40:14.580 changed it from eugenics to uh what's the cold spring harbor they're doing a cold spring harbor
01:40:18.900 basically the same research it's just genetic uh what's the term for it anyway they just they called
01:40:26.420 it genetic research now and like you know by you know they they research i think we call yeah
01:40:30.900 biotech and things like this but it's the same principles not not maybe not based in the same
01:40:36.580 racism but some of it's i'm sure some of these people are still racist like epstein who was
01:40:40.900 called everybody goy that wasn't jewish right i mean some of these guys are still racist
01:40:45.700 um but yeah i mean they they just they just changed the name um it's just interesting that
01:40:52.100 even as the public has been absolutely banned from talking about this stuff the people in
01:40:58.260 charge are very fixated on genetics yeah that doesn't surprise you why should i mean why again
01:41:04.980 And if this vehicle, it's pretty interesting technology.
01:41:10.560 I mean, the body's incredible technology.
01:41:12.820 That's what freaked me out so much during COVID
01:41:14.580 was like the whole mRNA delivery system, right?
01:41:20.100 That they were trying to inject us with.
01:41:22.240 And as a lot of people were warning,
01:41:23.900 that mRNA technology can start to affect your genome
01:41:27.260 and might be passed on to your children.
01:41:30.220 I think it's been confirmed now.
01:41:31.600 Right.
01:41:31.860 Right. So pretty, pretty scary stuff that they were just mass injecting into hundreds of millions
01:41:37.940 of people. But then, and now we know that it can affect your DNA. I think that's beyond dispute,
01:41:44.140 but I haven't read any follow-up and like, okay, what you're changing human beings generationally.
01:41:49.440 What are the likely effects of this? And that's, that's the transhuman agenda. So transhumanism, 0.65
01:41:56.240 transhumanism, you could say, is the evolution of eugenics to the place where a lot of these
01:42:03.220 elites want to biologically re-engineer the human. And arguably, they want to get us to a place where
01:42:10.620 they can merge us with the AI, the machine consciousness, to make us, well, you could say
01:42:17.520 like an HG Wells type of scenario, right? You have the elite who, and some of whom love the idea of
01:42:25.220 like Elon Musk, you know, connect me to the machine, connect me to the computer so that I
01:42:30.000 can be smarter. Right. And, uh, and then, you know, arguably those that are, you know, more
01:42:36.840 mundane will either not have the ability or they'll be connected in a way that they can be more
01:42:41.040 really controlled. Is this what we're going towards? You know, a cyborg type of future?
01:42:45.760 Seems clear, right? It's certainly feasible. I don't think in the next five years, but probably
01:42:50.060 20, 30 years and beyond,
01:42:52.340 you could see a whole new humanity.
01:42:54.920 What do you think the point
01:42:55.740 of the COVID exercise was?
01:43:02.920 Multilayered.
01:43:06.100 They wanted, I mean,
01:43:07.760 it seems that they wanted
01:43:08.620 to shut down the world
01:43:09.440 and print money en masse. 0.54
01:43:11.260 They didn't have a war
01:43:12.480 like to do it, right?
01:43:14.720 Without a great war,
01:43:16.020 they needed some kind of,
01:43:17.860 you know, conflict.
01:43:18.920 this exercise was a way of, I think, testing consciousness to see how pliable and compliant
01:43:25.800 people are. And obviously it was, like I said, frightening just to see your friends and neighbors
01:43:30.760 just becoming like the Borg in Star Trek, just obey, wear your mask, do not question. If you
01:43:39.080 question, you're crazy, you're dangerous. You know, you should be, at some point they were talking 1.00
01:43:43.240 about moving people to concentration camps for quarantine camps. They were talking about
01:43:48.160 digital tracking. I don't think they achieved fully what they could have, or if the dark side
01:43:55.500 had won, let's say prevailed. We could have, are you kidding me? We could have been, what Chomsky 1.00
01:43:59.860 said, those of us that were unvaxxed, we could have been pushed out of society. They could have
01:44:05.100 created a total digital verification of how many shots you've had and if you obeyed or not. I mean,
01:44:11.840 the social credit system of like a communist society, they could have gone all the way.
01:44:17.180 I don't think they won that battle.
01:44:22.440 But I think it was a big test
01:44:23.640 to see where our human consciousness was.
01:44:25.360 I noticed you didn't mention public health
01:44:26.900 as one of the reasons for that campaign.
01:44:30.120 Shifting our, in which aspect?
01:44:33.120 Well, the inherent threat of the virus,
01:44:34.720 that didn't play any role in this.
01:44:36.840 The virus was a perfect virus
01:44:38.960 insofar as it was very contagious.
01:44:41.440 And I think we all got exposed to it.
01:44:43.840 And I think the virus does have long-term effect.
01:44:47.180 that we should work to clean out,
01:44:49.840 but things like ivermectin and other
01:44:51.220 can help us with cleaning that out of our system.
01:44:54.860 But it wasn't like a particularly deadly virus.
01:44:57.340 No, I mean, just look at the numbers.
01:44:59.880 It was deadly if you had two plus comorbidities
01:45:02.760 and you were over 70 years old.
01:45:04.240 Yeah, that was dangerous.
01:45:06.020 But anyone who was paying attention,
01:45:07.800 we knew about ivermectin,
01:45:10.880 we knew about hydroxychloroquine, vitamin C, zinc.
01:45:15.400 I mean, just health protocols,
01:45:16.700 being in the sun, fresh air,
01:45:19.160 all the things you would normally think
01:45:20.700 would be healthy, you know,
01:45:22.800 keeping your weight normal.
01:45:25.300 So last question,
01:45:26.460 so many things are happening at once right now.
01:45:30.440 One thing I've noticed during this conversation
01:45:32.080 is you seem completely unsurprised,
01:45:34.400 nonplussed by all these crazy things going on
01:45:36.440 because you've just seen the world
01:45:37.860 through this vantage for so long
01:45:39.200 that it doesn't surprise you.
01:45:40.260 Is that fair?
01:45:42.260 Yeah, I think that
01:45:43.580 uh when you when you've grown up seeing conspiracy reality yeah i saw since i was like six seven
01:45:51.960 years old and my dad made jfk um you don't i don't try to assume anything because i'm not in a
01:46:00.000 position of one of the elites that's you know apparently you know making these types of
01:46:04.820 decisions right um so but you see a ufo and you say i'm looking not at an anomaly but at reality
01:46:12.120 yes yeah so that's a different way of looking at the world so um and probably a better one
01:46:17.320 but given that worldview you see now the unresolved war in ukraine this new war in
01:46:25.760 iran which seems like it is already a global war who knows the promise of uap disclosure
01:46:32.900 the rise of these terrifying dystopian technologies mass surveillance ai yeah all happening
01:46:41.980 in like a five-year span.
01:46:45.800 What is all of this?
01:46:47.620 They're clearly connected phenomena.
01:46:49.980 They're definitely connected phenomena.
01:46:56.520 Any one of these things would have been enough
01:46:58.460 to like fry my 30-year-old brain
01:47:00.760 if these had happened in 1999.
01:47:03.700 I guess it was, well, look,
01:47:05.680 the NATO war against Serbia was pretty,
01:47:09.240 it was relatively isolated,
01:47:11.420 with that region of the Balkans,
01:47:12.760 but that region was just devastated by that era.
01:47:16.220 I keep emphasizing to people,
01:47:17.460 look, the world ended many times already.
01:47:20.480 I think if we lived through World War II,
01:47:24.200 can you imagine the devastation of that time period?
01:47:28.460 I mean, maybe a hundred million dead,
01:47:31.220 the entire world engaged at some level of the conflict.
01:47:36.880 Just, I think that we can't really,
01:47:39.620 we have to get back to like kind of primary principles of okay is it really as bad as
01:47:46.120 we might the mind might want it might want it to believe you know and the fear wants us to believe
01:47:51.300 yes so i don't like to give and get into those like those give into those fear narratives
01:47:55.920 i um i truly believe that
01:48:00.020 the light is prevailing people are waking up every time something you know is occurring
01:48:09.420 we're in a time now where it's like thanks to the social media component as much as we can say like
01:48:14.160 yeah there's banal things there's like degrading things there's things that maybe like take us out
01:48:18.580 of ourselves or into our lower self there's also so much revelation coming at the same time yeah
01:48:23.280 right so we can have these conversations now that listen i couldn't talk about the the pedophilia
01:48:29.180 cannibalism stuff back in the 2000s when i first found out about it because you know i was reading
01:48:34.000 like the franklin about the franklin scandal and the franklin cover-up and things like this right
01:48:38.100 Like this was back in the 80s and 90s
01:48:41.040 that they were, you know, the trafficking rate.
01:48:42.500 I remember, yeah.
01:48:43.080 Right, in Franklin and it had to do with Larry King
01:48:45.480 who was very high up in the Republican National Committee
01:48:48.220 and, you know, stories like this that I knew about.
01:48:53.000 Different Larry King.
01:48:54.160 Yeah, different Larry King, exactly. 0.96
01:48:55.500 The black Larry King, not the CNN Larry King.
01:49:00.100 And, you know, I couldn't talk about these things publicly,
01:49:02.160 but gradually I've seen consciousness awakening.
01:49:05.220 It's my journey has been so interesting in that regard.
01:49:07.080 Like I was doing conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura back when it was shut down because we were asking, you know, we were asking all the right questions apparently.
01:49:16.480 But the network, True TV shut us down because he had challenged, I think it was because of the episode that he did about FEMA, FEMA camps, maybe.
01:49:32.780 Was that like he triggered something?
01:49:34.400 Yeah.
01:49:34.580 But there were some things that we touched upon
01:49:36.700 that were like, okay, the show is canceled.
01:49:39.620 So nowadays, if he'd wanted to,
01:49:42.760 we could have shifted it to a TikTok channel or something.
01:49:46.740 We could have continued it.
01:49:49.020 All these conversations that we were having
01:49:50.940 about the Skinwalker Ranch.
01:49:53.060 Now there's shows on Netflix about Skinwalker Ranch.
01:49:55.900 The UAP stuff coming out, the hybrid programs,
01:49:58.860 the reverse engineering being discussed in Congress.
01:50:02.700 So I feel like the awakening is more important
01:50:05.420 than the events themselves.
01:50:07.120 The events themselves,
01:50:08.440 because like this is a reality where unfortunately,
01:50:11.140 yes, like it's painful.
01:50:12.680 It's full of suffering.
01:50:13.880 There's sorrow.
01:50:15.500 Our loved ones are gonna die one way or another.
01:50:17.540 Everything's gonna pass in this world, right?
01:50:19.920 So what matters is where are we awakening to the reality?
01:50:23.740 Are we seeing the spiritual forces that are at work?
01:50:27.180 And if we can, again, choose light instead of darkness,
01:50:30.320 I do believe we can create a better reality.
01:50:32.800 But it starts with awakening and realization,
01:50:34.980 not being, we're going to put this in the corner.
01:50:37.020 We're not going to discuss the pedophilia.
01:50:38.360 No, that's being discussed openly now.
01:50:40.460 We're not going to discuss, you know,
01:50:41.920 the rape and murder and cannibalization of kids.
01:50:45.240 No, we're going to discuss that.
01:50:46.560 Because by becoming aware of it,
01:50:48.680 now we can get to a place of,
01:50:51.300 okay, all of this somehow exists in our reality.
01:50:55.020 Let's choose a better version.
01:50:57.380 Let's choose a better version of reality, right?
01:50:59.740 where this doesn't happen as prevalently, if at all.
01:51:03.120 So the awakening is worth the suffering that leads to it?
01:51:06.520 It's the only way.
01:51:08.280 It's the only way to awaken is to suffer.
01:51:10.300 It's what Buddha even,
01:51:11.520 Buddha sees suffering in the world.
01:51:13.020 He says, I want to understand what's causing this.
01:51:16.700 Get to the heart.
01:51:17.340 You know, he wants to awaken, right?
01:51:18.880 He wants to create a more compassionate reality,
01:51:21.880 even though he knows that suffering will still exist.
01:51:25.120 So it doesn't have to be as evil as cannibalizing,
01:51:28.020 you know, people and murdering women and children and all these horrible things.
01:51:33.420 But there will still be suffering in our reality at this point of human experience, right? We're
01:51:39.480 still going to suffer illness and old age and death until, you know, God decides that we
01:51:46.440 enter a more golden age.
01:51:50.200 Sean Stone, thank you very much.
01:51:53.460 It's a pleasure.
01:51:58.020 You