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On this episode of BetOnline, we sit down with a very special guest. He's a father of 8, a husband, and a husband to his wife. He's also the co-owner of a pizza shop in his hometown of Waterloo, Iowa. We talk about his life growing up in a family of 10 kids, how he became a father, and his love for pizza.

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00:00:30.000 terry thanks for doing this what do you know about fatherhood
00:00:36.440 uh well uh my wife and i just had number eight right so uh i look i will tell you this when you
00:00:42.680 say just well we might go no no but i mean when did you have number eight uh last week uh and
00:00:48.640 you know she i was i just want to convey the eminence of it to be fair to me i'm a good
00:00:53.820 husband and father i did ask her if i she wanted us to reschedule this and she's such a huge fan
00:00:59.840 of your show and everything you do, she was like, no, you have to do it. Don't miss out on this.
00:01:04.620 Thank you. Well, that's amazing. So as a father of eight.
00:01:08.380 Yes.
00:01:09.420 Why are you the father of eight?
00:01:11.720 Well, I would say that, you know, I'm the eldest of 10 kids. I grew up working with my dad in our
00:01:17.560 pizza shop. I had an amazing relationship with him and I got to see what being a father is
00:01:24.660 firsthand. And I had amazing grandparents and amazing great-grandparents. But even more so,
00:01:31.900 I just, I love my wife. I met her when I was 20 years old. We started dating. We were on a
00:01:40.220 presidential campaign out in Iowa, and I fell madly in love with her, and it hasn't stopped.
00:01:45.380 And so, you know, I love being a dad because these kids are all unique and different. They
00:01:53.960 make the world more beautiful. They're funny. They're bad. It strengthens me as a person,
00:02:00.140 but I just, I love my wife. I love my kids. I love finding out who they are, right? Because
00:02:07.620 when you're raising them, you learn who your children are and who they're going to become.
00:02:11.920 And each one of them is so different. It's funny. You said in that, I agree with everything that
00:02:18.040 you said, but the one thing you said twice was, I love my wife. So it sounds like your marriage
00:02:22.200 is at the center of your thinking of yourself as a father.
00:02:26.640 Yeah.
00:02:26.940 And I look back at, you know,
00:02:29.520 because marriage is ups and downs, right?
00:02:31.700 And you fight and you have disagreements
00:02:33.600 and you move forward.
00:02:34.960 But the only regrets that I'm going to have on my deathbed
00:02:39.880 is when I wasn't as charitable to my wife
00:02:42.600 or I wasn't as kind and caring to her.
00:02:45.880 Yeah, or patient or dismissive, right?
00:02:48.720 Those are the embarrassing moments of my life.
00:02:51.300 And the only thing I'm going to regret is not spending more time with her, not getting to know her better.
00:02:57.620 But I can fix that, I think, over the next 40 years.
00:02:59.720 So I have a million questions for you just based on this two-minute exchange.
00:03:03.360 But can we just go back to the beginning, if you don't mind just summarizing your life?
00:03:07.100 You said, I'm one of 10.
00:03:08.820 I work with my dad at our pizza shop.
00:03:10.600 Yeah.
00:03:10.940 So already I know you had an unusual childhood.
00:03:12.940 Can you just explain it?
00:03:14.920 Well, I grew up in the Quad Cities.
00:03:17.300 It's western Illinois and eastern Iowa.
00:03:19.060 It's on the Mississippi River, hometown of John Deere Tractors.
00:03:22.200 We have our own pizza styles called Quad City Style Pizza.
00:03:26.740 How is it different?
00:03:28.420 Okay, so it's a barley malt crust, which is the number one most different thing about it.
00:03:34.020 And it gives it more caramelization, so it's a little bit, I don't know, it's a complex flavor.
00:03:40.620 Crisper than a normal.
00:03:41.740 It's crisper, and it's a medium crust.
00:03:46.500 So the inside is kind of thinner.
00:03:49.040 And on the outside, the crust is thicker.
00:03:51.280 It's cut into strips.
00:03:52.760 So if you like crust, you get the corner pieces.
00:03:56.220 If you don't like crust, you get the middle pieces because they're thinner.
00:03:59.120 But the sauce is more robust.
00:04:01.560 You know, I like all different types of pizzas.
00:04:04.040 I don't like sweet pizza sauce for some reason.
00:04:07.460 But it's got red pepper in it, so it's a little bit spicy.
00:04:09.780 The sausage is actually the most important thing that we have.
00:04:14.040 The thing that makes it most unique is it's a fennel sausage.
00:04:16.600 It's spicier.
00:04:17.500 So if you don't like spicy food, you wouldn't like it.
00:04:20.080 The toppings are underneath the cheese.
00:04:22.100 So it gives it a steamed effect instead of a fried effect.
00:04:25.740 It's the best thing ever.
00:04:26.920 I miss it every day.
00:04:27.940 You're making me hungry.
00:04:29.680 It's like I've never heard pizza described so precisely or lovingly.
00:04:33.720 Yeah.
00:04:34.020 Well, it's a passion of mine.
00:04:35.560 And I am not a believer in there being just one pizza place or one pizza that is better than everything else.
00:04:42.580 There are all these different types of pizza flavors.
00:04:45.280 There's New Haven style.
00:04:46.260 there's New York style, there's St. Louis, Chicago. There's two types of Chicago-style
00:04:50.720 pizza. There's a tavern style. That's also cut into strips, but it's a thinner crust. And then
00:04:55.820 there's obviously the Lou Malnati types, which is my favorite Chicago-style pizza. But there's
00:05:01.440 Neapolitan pizza. I know a lot about pizza. It's one of my passions.
00:05:04.680 It's interesting. I've eaten a lot of pizza, more than my share, but I don't know as much,
00:05:08.880 so I need to bone up. But your family owned a pizza place.
00:05:11.620 Yeah. And that was where all of us kids started working. We started working. I started working at 10. 1996 is when we opened. I was the head dishwasher.
00:05:22.760 What was it called?
00:05:23.640 St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. And there's an interesting story about my dad in this in that it's called St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. Giuseppe is Joseph in Italian. And St. Joseph is the patron saint of our family. He's the foster father of Jesus, right?
00:05:40.920 So he's the patron saint of fathers.
00:05:42.560 He's a patron saint of workers.
00:05:44.720 He's an amazing, he's the greatest non-divine figure that ever existed, I would say, besides Virgin Mary, obviously.
00:05:52.800 But my dad started this pizza place to make more money, to provide for the family.
00:05:58.040 I think they had just had number five at the time, which, you know, when you become a father, you really feel the economic pressures and the stress.
00:06:06.180 But before he opened the pizza restaurant, he was an insurance salesman.
00:06:09.760 and he worked at Prudential Insurance.
00:06:12.360 And in the 80s, his parents got divorced.
00:06:15.620 He was a senior in high school
00:06:16.640 and he became a party guy.
00:06:19.420 His dad was a bartender.
00:06:21.340 His mom also worked at bars.
00:06:23.280 They got divorced
00:06:24.060 and it really adversely impacted his life.
00:06:27.480 And he experienced terrible things.
00:06:29.460 I don't want to get into that stuff
00:06:30.860 because it's just,
00:06:31.620 it's actually kind of painful.
00:06:33.040 But he got way off track.
00:06:33.980 He got way off track.
00:06:34.840 And this is during the 80s
00:06:36.080 at the height of the crack epidemic.
00:06:37.740 Yeah.
00:06:38.100 And, you know, they didn't,
00:06:39.760 And they didn't really have to sell crack that much.
00:06:42.360 They basically just said, you know, he smoked pot, right?
00:06:45.620 And so he was leaving a liquor store.
00:06:47.760 This is when you could buy alcohol at 18.
00:06:49.560 But he's leaving a liquor store and the crack dealer said, hey, you guys smoke weed.
00:06:53.920 And they're like, yeah, thinking he's going to sell weed.
00:06:56.420 He goes, you want something better?
00:06:58.320 And he gave him crack.
00:07:00.080 And crack is obviously one of the worst substances you can get addicted to.
00:07:04.220 People ruin their lives over it.
00:07:05.720 Only 5% of people that get addicted to crack end up ever getting clean.
00:07:09.760 And so my dad developed a crack addiction at the height of the crack epidemic, and he
00:07:15.100 was able to keep it at bay or at least keep it under control.
00:07:18.580 But as part of the filming of this, I sat down with my mom to talk about her experience
00:07:24.560 as the wife of a guy with a crack addict.
00:07:28.200 And one thing that blew me away that I didn't remember from my childhood, really, I knew
00:07:32.440 he had a drug addiction when I was a kid, and I knew it was a problem.
00:07:35.540 I knew he got clean.
00:07:36.980 She told me that there were days
00:07:38.420 where he would go three days
00:07:40.360 without ever coming home.
00:07:42.980 He would go to work.
00:07:44.500 They'd go out drinking afterwards
00:07:45.860 and then they'd go smoke crack and do drugs
00:07:48.160 and they'd stay out all night.
00:07:49.980 And then he knew he was in trouble
00:07:51.920 so he wouldn't go home
00:07:52.880 and he'd go right into work
00:07:54.920 and he'd work.
00:07:55.940 And he, by the way,
00:07:56.820 he was very successful at selling insurance.
00:07:59.620 He, I think he was ranked 225
00:08:03.620 out of 5,000 prudential agents nationwide.
00:08:06.340 So he's very effective, very productive, but he'd keep going out and drinking and he wouldn't come home until the third night.
00:08:12.680 It really made me think about how these corporations in America, like my mom noticed when he wasn't home for three nights, but Prudential Insurance didn't care.
00:08:23.540 Why would they care?
00:08:24.400 They don't because he's selling their product.
00:08:26.980 He's producing value for them.
00:08:28.780 And they probably were okay with him smoking crack because it probably made him more effective and efficient.
00:08:34.020 He could get back on the job.
00:08:36.340 And so I've had this revelation over the last few years that the government's bad, now it's corrupted, but also the industries are bad.
00:08:46.640 The industries will chew you up and spit you out.
00:08:48.920 And the irony is that there's this false notion of a work-life balance. 1.00
00:08:54.580 It's total garbage. 1.00
00:08:56.140 It's a total lie. 1.00
00:08:56.960 And it's meant, the entire framing of the work-life balance is meant to go to war with life, right?
00:09:03.920 It is a false dichotomy set up by industries and corporations so that you have to make a choice between your work and your private life.
00:09:12.240 We'll let you take more vacation time.
00:09:13.960 We'll let you have some paternity leave, you know, but you got to come back to work and produce value for the company.
00:09:18.860 Otherwise, you're of no value to us. 0.71
00:09:20.920 And it is a way that they have monopolized our actual lives.
00:09:27.460 And in my opinion, based on the experience with my dad,
00:09:32.820 his life turned around when he integrated his work and his life.
00:09:37.840 When the pizza shop came around, he was working with his sons.
00:09:41.340 He was working with his wife.
00:09:43.040 That was the center of our life, was the pizza shop.
00:09:45.720 And my dad absolutely got clean.
00:09:48.100 I want to be very clear about that.
00:09:50.420 So the breaking point was when my mom was pregnant with number four, right?
00:09:56.000 And Joseph is his name.
00:09:59.320 He's the one that runs the pizza restaurants now. 0.99
00:10:01.720 But she filed for divorce when she was pregnant with number four after another three-day bender.
00:10:07.020 And there was something really beautiful in all of this that happened, which is, if you go back, I mentioned...
00:10:13.500 I quit drinking during my wife's fourth pregnancy.
00:10:16.240 Oh, that...
00:10:16.920 Two weeks before the end.
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00:12:54.240 Well, there's something transformational about becoming a father.
00:12:58.860 Especially for the fourth time.
00:13:00.080 That's like, I really got to grow up.
00:13:02.180 The slower among us take a few kids to figure it out.
00:13:04.520 But yeah, that's amazing. 1.00
00:13:06.940 She filed for divorce.
00:13:08.480 He didn't know where to go.
00:13:09.980 So he went to his mom's house.
00:13:11.480 His mom had divorced his dad.
00:13:12.800 So we thought, you know, that's where you should go and get a device.
00:13:16.360 My grandmother finds out that my mom's divorcing him.
00:13:19.700 She calls my mom and confronts her, which is interesting, right? 1.00
00:13:23.220 Because this is a woman who absolutely participated in the no-fault divorce culture. 1.00
00:13:27.780 Yes. 1.00
00:13:28.900 But she said, why are you divorcing my son?
00:13:32.060 And my mom said, her name was Pat.
00:13:34.720 And she said, Pat, he's not getting clean.
00:13:37.900 He doesn't want to be married to me.
00:13:39.360 He doesn't want a family.
00:13:41.040 And Grandma Pat hung up the phone.
00:13:43.380 She said, I'll handle this.
00:13:45.340 And she sat down with my dad and said, I just want you to know, I'll always love you, always
00:13:50.620 support you, but I never would have divorced your father if he asked me not to.
00:13:56.220 And that was the moment where my dad called my mom and said, I don't want to get divorced.
00:14:01.900 I want to get clean.
00:14:03.360 And I think at a deep level, he knew that his problems weren't just because he was a 0.87
00:14:08.400 wild and crazy guy.
00:14:09.300 He was filling a major hole in his heart from his parents' divorce. 0.75
00:14:14.140 And so, I'm actually grateful that he developed that crack addiction.
00:14:19.540 Oh, yeah.
00:14:20.160 Because it made him a better person.
00:14:21.200 I totally agree with that.
00:14:22.160 And he chose us, right?
00:14:23.660 He chose us over the crack addiction.
00:14:26.400 He chose to break the cycle and the dysfunction and the chaos that result from breaking up families.
00:14:32.160 He didn't want that to happen to us.
00:14:33.120 And you can trust a man who's had to face that about himself.
00:14:35.420 Yes.
00:14:35.840 He's not lying to himself.
00:14:37.340 It's so humiliating.
00:14:38.780 It's humbling, right?
00:14:40.100 You have to admit, you know, when you go through these Narcotics Anonymous programs or any
00:14:43.660 anonymous programs, you have to say, I'm helpless against this.
00:14:47.460 I rely on a power greater than myself.
00:14:49.760 You have to accuse yourself, right?
00:14:51.800 You have to go and apologize to everyone that you cause damage to.
00:14:55.720 It's such a beautiful program.
00:14:58.240 And the people that really take it seriously and go through it end up absolutely transforming
00:15:04.420 their lives.
00:15:04.620 Well, that's like the humiliating a man can break him or make him.
00:15:09.520 I mean, Jesus humiliates Peter right at the end.
00:15:12.620 He's like, I'll never leave you.
00:15:13.720 Yeah, you're going to deny me three times.
00:15:17.040 Humiliates him.
00:15:17.880 Yes.
00:15:18.380 And then builds the church on him because he's been humiliated.
00:15:22.040 Yeah.
00:15:22.240 I mean, I feel like those are the people I trust.
00:15:25.360 Don't you?
00:15:26.260 People who face that?
00:15:27.440 The people that reflect on their own behavior and activity.
00:15:34.320 those are the best people in the world.
00:15:35.980 I totally agree.
00:15:37.240 Rather than the people that blame everyone else
00:15:39.280 for their problems.
00:15:40.240 Like, I think a major problem in our world
00:15:42.960 is that there's obviously narcissism
00:15:46.340 and people obsessed with themselves.
00:15:48.300 But there's narcissism?
00:15:49.680 But they blame everyone else for their problems.
00:15:52.380 And the reality is you have no control over...
00:15:55.080 Oh, this is an interesting...
00:15:56.260 You have no control over what other people do.
00:15:58.500 So a lot of people don't know this
00:16:00.040 unless you've been in these anonymous programs.
00:16:03.080 But my dad was in Narcotics Anonymous.
00:16:05.680 My mom, so there's a whole support system
00:16:07.640 for the families of these people.
00:16:09.760 It's called Al-Anon.
00:16:11.160 And my mom told this story about how her first meeting,
00:16:14.480 she comes in and there's all these experienced women 0.86
00:16:17.240 that have been dealing with alcoholic husbands
00:16:18.880 or drug addict, addicted husbands.
00:16:21.000 She comes in and they go around the room.
00:16:22.360 It's just like an anonymous meeting.
00:16:24.380 And she's like, I just want to get my husband clean.
00:16:26.440 I'm willing to do whatever I have to do to get him clean.
00:16:28.920 And they kind of like patted her on the head.
00:16:32.540 oh, that's very cute that you think you can change your husband.
00:16:36.800 You can't.
00:16:37.820 He's not going to get clean unless he wants to get clean.
00:16:40.760 And when I learned that from my mom,
00:16:43.620 it was a major life lesson that you're better off
00:16:46.440 doing self-reflection about where you come short.
00:16:49.500 And if you really want to change things
00:16:50.900 and make the world a better place,
00:16:52.000 you have to start with yourself.
00:16:54.720 I think it's all you can do.
00:16:56.500 Just, you know, take the plank out of your own eye.
00:16:59.200 I totally agree with that.
00:17:00.800 What's interesting, though, is that for a man with four kids to admit that he's addicted to crack,
00:17:08.140 I do think for most men that kind of breaks them at that point.
00:17:11.160 It's too much.
00:17:12.220 They can't sort of pick up the mantle of father head of household again.
00:17:17.440 But your dad goes on to be successful and have six more kids.
00:17:22.140 Six more kids.
00:17:22.980 And serve a term in Congress.
00:17:25.420 That's unbelievable.
00:17:26.660 football. Well, and there was something really
00:17:28.640 beautiful about my dad's
00:17:30.720 life. First of all, he
00:17:32.600 got cancer in 2020.
00:17:34.900 At what age? He was
00:17:36.400 57. No,
00:17:38.560 56 when he was diagnosed. He passed away
00:17:40.680 the next year when he was 57.
00:17:42.940 And it was advanced
00:17:44.660 stage intestinal cancer.
00:17:46.900 And they wouldn't have been able to pick it up, even
00:17:48.680 if they did colonoscopies or endoscopies
00:17:50.720 or anything like that, because it was on the outside
00:17:52.940 of his
00:17:53.940 intestines. But the
00:17:56.660 And the thing that was beautiful about it was I went out, I have a great organization,
00:18:02.840 a great chairman and a great president at the time, and they let me go take care of
00:18:06.120 him in the last month and a half.
00:18:07.640 So I'm out there and I'm with all my siblings and, you know, you just want to get out of
00:18:11.800 the house and clean your head, you know, from everything that's going on.
00:18:15.800 So I took him all to Target and we're just getting snacks and stuff.
00:18:18.680 And I tell him, like, you know, you guys should just be really grateful that he he's
00:18:24.120 even alive now because he had a real bad drug addiction. And my younger siblings, and these
00:18:30.200 are numbers five, six, seven, and eight. And they're like, what are you talking about? I'm
00:18:36.560 like, well, that was addicted to crack. They had no clue because he had transformed his life
00:18:42.620 so much. And the thing is, he was a public figure, right? So he's a member of Congress.
00:18:47.120 I started speaking about his crack addiction as a way to bring people over. And he gave me
00:18:52.260 permission on his deathbed to talk about it at the funeral. And the political reporters from back
00:18:58.240 home were astounded. And there's actually a really interesting article where they're trying to call
00:19:03.900 BS on me saying that he had a crack addiction because they had never heard of anything like
00:19:07.940 this about him. But that's how much fatherhood and faith transformed his life. My siblings didn't
00:19:16.780 even know about it. I mean, I knew there would be times, I have very vague memories of my mom
00:19:21.740 when I'm three, putting me in the back of the car and going and driving to the different bars in
00:19:26.080 our area to try and find him. But it's very vague. My siblings have no recollections.
00:19:31.160 Where are you in birth order?
00:19:32.240 I'm the oldest.
00:19:33.740 How old's your youngest?
00:19:35.100 My youngest sibling, he just turned 16.
00:19:38.180 Wow.
00:19:39.180 My mom was pregnant as she walked down the aisle with me at my wife and I was sweating.
00:19:45.700 That's actually?
00:19:46.980 Yes. Yeah. It's very beautiful. I love it. I absolutely love it.
00:19:49.460 I actually, two of my, well, my oldest daughter, Grace, who just got engaged, it's wonderful.
00:19:56.140 She is older than the youngest, youngest brother of mine, youngest two siblings of mine.
00:20:02.380 That's amazing.
00:20:04.040 So the nightmare, I think, for any child, and maybe especially the oldest son, is his father's death.
00:20:10.860 I mean, I think it's something in the back of your head, you know, you always worry about it, or I always did.
00:20:16.100 How did it, how do you view it now?
00:20:19.460 your father's death.
00:20:20.360 Well, it's always going to be painful,
00:20:22.700 but there was this moment
00:20:25.000 when he's literally taking his last breaths.
00:20:27.780 And, you know, before,
00:20:30.160 let me go back, actually.
00:20:31.660 Earlier in the day,
00:20:32.840 you could tell there was a,
00:20:34.480 when someone's about to die that day,
00:20:36.140 there's always like a big shift in them.
00:20:40.180 They actually kind of get anxious.
00:20:41.300 They want to get up and move around.
00:20:42.600 I don't know what it is,
00:20:43.860 but he started doing that.
00:20:45.900 And we got him back into bed.
00:20:47.300 He was in a lot of pain.
00:20:48.080 And my mom asked him,
00:20:49.460 oh, gosh, what can we do?
00:20:53.420 What can we do to help?
00:20:54.500 And he said, I just want my family and I want Jesus.
00:20:58.260 And that was his call to us to say,
00:21:00.760 I want last rites.
00:21:01.600 And he wanted to receive communion.
00:21:03.580 And so we got that and we got the whole family in there.
00:21:06.880 And, you know, Tucker, I look back on that day
00:21:10.920 and he died with all 10 of us at his side.
00:21:15.880 That's incredible.
00:21:16.680 Praying for him, thanking, thank you God for Bobby.
00:21:19.460 You know, and like, that is a beautiful life.
00:21:23.620 And it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't gotten clean.
00:21:28.400 If he had stayed a crack addict and allowed the divorce to go on,
00:21:33.460 would have maxed out four kids.
00:21:35.260 You know, maybe he got, you know, had some other woman on the side or whatever.
00:21:39.260 But he died with all 10 of us grateful to God for his existence
00:21:44.280 and for what he did in our life.
00:21:46.620 And it was a beautiful death, right?
00:21:50.500 And I mentioned earlier that St. Joseph is the patron saint of fathers and workers.
00:21:56.420 He's also the patron saint of a happy death.
00:21:59.700 And the story is that he's the first guy to have a happy death because he died in the arms of Jesus and Mary.
00:22:05.780 And I can't help but get that image out of my head.
00:22:08.300 I don't think the concept of happy death even exists in the West at this point.
00:22:12.100 Hopefully we'll bring it back.
00:22:13.260 But I feel like what you're describing so unfortunately is not even comprehensible to a lot of people.
00:22:21.720 They don't even know what that means.
00:22:23.520 They're very fearful of death.
00:22:25.080 And it's because we've lost faith, I think, in our society.
00:22:29.360 I think that we rely on ourselves a lot.
00:22:32.960 I think a lot of the...
00:22:34.740 Because we're so capable.
00:22:35.960 Yeah, that's the irony.
00:22:37.880 So capable.
00:22:38.780 Human beings are so flawed, right?
00:22:40.700 I think.
00:22:41.100 And you've basically got a really corrupt system in America, which is on the left, you have people that just want anarchy. 1.00
00:22:51.380 They want to give kids sex changes. 0.99
00:22:53.220 They want the government to pay for it.
00:22:55.020 They want to put you in prison for having the wrong political beliefs.
00:22:59.200 They want you canceled.
00:23:00.100 But on the right, you have some of that stuff, actually.
00:23:05.140 But even worse, they're slaves to corporate America.
00:23:08.720 They're slaves to the industries and the institutions.
00:23:11.100 Um, and it needs to change.
00:23:13.260 And one thing I wanted to share with you, I was a 2021 Lincoln fellow at Claremont with
00:23:18.640 Charlie Kirk, and, uh, I got to know him a little bit, you know, there was, it's like
00:23:22.840 12 people total.
00:23:24.140 It's 10 days.
00:23:24.940 We were in Las Vegas.
00:23:26.500 Uh, Charlie didn't gamble or drink and I lost all my money on the first day.
00:23:30.120 So I got to talk to him quite a bit, but, um, it was, there was a fascinating discussion
00:23:34.140 where he was debating with another girl, a woman named Robbie Smith, who's one of the
00:23:39.140 best people I've ever met.
00:23:40.040 they were arguing about the lack of marriage and family formation in America. Who was to blame?
00:23:44.240 Men or women? And Robbie was saying, it's obviously the men. They're smoking pot. They're
00:23:50.220 watching porn. They're all distracted. They don't want to get married. I have all these good 0.80
00:23:53.740 girlfriends that want to get married. They can't find a guy. Charlie said, no, no, no. It's the 1.00
00:23:57.900 girl bosses. It's the women wanting to get college degrees and putting off, getting married. They 1.00
00:24:02.560 don't want to get married. And Charlie turns to me and he says, Terry, you're the guy that works
00:24:08.040 on family policy.
00:24:08.820 What do you think?
00:24:09.960 And I had a bad answer
00:24:11.340 and I hate the answer I gave him.
00:24:12.800 But I said, you know,
00:24:13.540 I think it's the men
00:24:14.440 because, you know, 0.72
00:24:16.080 biblically men are the head
00:24:17.180 of the household. 0.99
00:24:17.940 So it's our job to win women over 0.99
00:24:19.500 and to form our households.
00:24:21.720 The reality, Tucker, is that
00:24:23.200 who's to blame in our society
00:24:25.320 is our elites.
00:24:26.260 Of course.
00:24:27.100 It's all of them.
00:24:27.960 I mean, it's the elites
00:24:28.800 in corporate America
00:24:29.640 that set the HR policies
00:24:31.080 that, you know,
00:24:32.300 after Dobbs passed
00:24:33.280 or after Dobbs' decision came down,
00:24:35.400 corporate America was tripping 0.99
00:24:36.560 over itself for abortion 0.51
00:24:37.920 tourism. We'll pay for your flights and your accommodations to go to California and secure 0.98
00:24:43.360 abortion. We'll freeze your eggs. What is that? Well, I'll tell you what it is. It is corporate 1.00
00:24:50.000 America saying, if these women have babies, they'll leave the workforce and there'll be fewer 0.99
00:24:55.840 people. We'll have to pay people more money because there are fewer workers in the workforce 0.93
00:25:00.360 because if these women have babies, they'll become moms. And then they'll maybe have another 1.00
00:25:03.760 one. Then they'll have less time to be efficient and effective. And it's so depressing. It's so
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00:27:09.720 Terms apply. 0.98
00:27:11.020 By the way, if women leave the workforce, then men will once again make more than women 0.79
00:27:16.940 And then people will get married and the cycle will harden because when women make more than men, they don't get married because women don't want to marry men who make less than they do.
00:27:26.400 Sorry, that's not an attack on women. 0.73
00:27:29.100 That's what women self-report in survey after survey after survey. 1.00
00:27:33.480 So when women make more than men, the marriage rate collapses. 1.00
00:27:36.040 Duh, that's what happened in black America. 0.96
00:27:37.620 Now it's happened in rural white America, but it's the same thing. 0.97
00:27:40.220 Well, there's this interesting thing where you look at communist China, right? 0.58
00:27:45.940 In the 1950s, they institute the one-child policy and a bunch of different programs that incentivize sterilization.
00:27:52.400 Their birth rate in 1960, I think, was 4.45 per woman.
00:27:57.940 By 1997, they got it down to 1.53 after coercive and harsh, tyrannical policies that really hurt and killed a lot of people.
00:28:08.400 When the Brits gave up control of Hong Kong in 1997, the same year, their fertility rate under the loving, gazing eyes of the Western world, Hong Kong's birth rate was at 1.13.
00:28:26.480 With all the prosperity, right?
00:28:28.200 Even lower.
00:28:29.660 And over that time, we have increased efficiency by 90% across our industries.
00:28:35.620 were almost double as effective and efficient
00:28:38.400 as we were back in 1960.
00:28:42.500 But more of our money goes towards the existential stuff.
00:28:45.180 It was 50% of your income in the 1960s
00:28:47.940 went to your mortgage, your car, your insurance,
00:28:50.480 all the things you need to live.
00:28:51.780 Today, it's 80%.
00:28:52.860 So we're more efficient.
00:28:54.600 We're producing way more goods
00:28:55.840 than we've ever produced, ever.
00:28:57.600 But we're making less money.
00:28:59.420 We need two incomes to make it in America today.
00:29:02.520 And people are buying homes with two incomes.
00:29:04.820 So when you lose your job, you go into foreclosure.
00:29:07.980 This is all industry-driven.
00:29:09.920 Why do we allow people to buy homes with two incomes?
00:29:14.660 Why are you allowed to get a mortgage with two incomes?
00:29:16.840 All that's done is it's jacked up the price of housing in the good school district.
00:29:21.720 Because there's only a few good school districts in the country.
00:29:24.860 And if the incomes have doubled, you're in a bidding war now.
00:29:28.180 And we have sacrificed our lives for business, for industry, for efficiency.
00:29:34.820 And we're more miserable than ever.
00:29:37.620 But they love us back, don't you think?
00:29:40.280 You know, we were talking about this in the car.
00:29:42.600 How committed is Apple to you and your family?
00:29:44.540 Oh, they hate you.
00:29:45.540 First of all, oh my gosh, the iPhone should be free.
00:29:50.540 The iPhone should absolutely, they need the iPhone to deliver all of their ads and their
00:29:54.440 propaganda to you and to subvert everything you believe in.
00:29:58.640 Why do we have to pay $2,000 for an iPhone?
00:30:01.300 That doesn't make any sense to me.
00:30:02.460 To humiliate us, maybe?
00:30:04.540 I'm just guessing.
00:30:05.640 Yes.
00:30:06.380 Yes.
00:30:07.120 Is that what it costs?
00:30:08.200 That's $1,500, $1,600 or something.
00:30:10.100 For an iPhone?
00:30:11.260 For the most, the highest level one.
00:30:13.920 Yeah, I think so.
00:30:15.020 I don't know.
00:30:15.860 Wow.
00:30:16.200 I don't buy them.
00:30:17.420 I don't either.
00:30:18.500 They sent them to me.
00:30:19.480 I didn't know that.
00:30:20.340 My office, I didn't.
00:30:21.260 Wow, is that really what they cost?
00:30:22.500 I'm so out of it.
00:30:23.440 Gosh, I wish I didn't have one.
00:30:25.920 So you're one of 10.
00:30:28.900 You now are the father of eight.
00:30:30.400 So I think you're in a pretty good spot to describe what makes a good father.
00:30:36.280 I think if you boil what becoming a father is and what it means, it's self-sacrifice, which is love.
00:30:44.240 Yeah.
00:30:44.540 Right?
00:30:45.600 Victor Hugo, author of Les Mis, he said that you can give without loving, but you can't love without giving.
00:30:52.920 Right?
00:30:53.100 And I think the ultimate example of what a man is, is Christ on the cross.
00:31:00.400 right? Like, here's a guy that is literally giving up everything. And if you actually read
00:31:06.460 the passion, he's fighting all the way up until the final moment, right? These people are kicking
00:31:12.560 him. He's falling. He's been beaten and scorched. He's bleeding profusely. They ripped out. I mean,
00:31:18.700 I saw the episode where you were talking about that, and it was way more impactful than the
00:31:23.740 passion, I'll tell you that. But you look at the passion of Christ, he was fighting and struggling
00:31:28.880 to get to Calvary the whole time.
00:31:31.660 It was a submission to God's will,
00:31:33.760 but he had to work for it.
00:31:35.380 He had to push himself to get up every time
00:31:38.500 and he did it for us.
00:31:40.080 That is what we're called to be as fathers,
00:31:42.840 self-sacrificial.
00:31:44.480 You never, I also think that fathers are merciful,
00:31:47.180 but they're just, right?
00:31:48.600 So they're equal.
00:31:49.980 Someone described this to me, Pat Fagan,
00:31:52.480 amazing guy who does a lot of pro-family policy,
00:31:55.160 but he told me the difference between the devil and Jesus,
00:31:57.220 which is amazing.
00:31:57.940 He said, you know, the devil always deviates from the law, but he shows no mercy when you
00:32:03.320 break the law.
00:32:04.500 Christ never deviates from the law, but shows infinite mercy when you apologize.
00:32:10.020 And I think that's the rule of a father is to not stray from the law, not stray from
00:32:14.280 the rules, but be merciful to your children, right?
00:32:17.400 I think that there, you know, you hear horror stories about how some fathers behave, but
00:32:21.680 I think if you're really doing it right, you're spending a lot of one-on-one time with each
00:32:25.700 year.
00:32:25.800 Believe it or not, even though I have eight kids, I make time for each one of them individually.
00:32:31.240 And it doesn't have to be hours at a time.
00:32:33.800 You can do a five, 10-minute trip to 7-Eleven, get some snacks.
00:32:37.280 Your kids will open up to you.
00:32:39.160 You have to have that one-on-one time with your kids.
00:32:41.440 But I would say that if you were to boil it all down, it's sacrificing yourself for your children and your wife.
00:32:49.000 It is being merciful, and it's also making sure your kids know the rules and don't make these mistakes.
00:32:54.880 Discipline, right?
00:32:55.800 These are the things that are the most important thing when it comes to being a father.
00:33:01.520 Well, you often hear people compare the West, America, Europe, to Rome.
00:33:08.460 Clearly, Western civilization is in decline.
00:33:11.560 And at the same time, you hear another set of people tell you that masculinity is the problem.
00:33:17.580 Toxic masculinity.
00:33:18.760 And young people hear both of these things, and a lot of them become consumed by despair.
00:33:23.840 Men are not irredeemable.
00:33:26.300 Men can be stronger.
00:33:27.700 But you got to fix one thing before that happens, and that's fatherhood.
00:33:32.640 No society without fathers can continue.
00:33:35.620 And that's why he made a new documentary on the topic.
00:33:38.380 It's called Fathers Wanted.
00:33:40.260 What the country needs isn't less masculinity, it's more.
00:33:44.140 Steady, responsible, self-sacrificing male leadership.
00:33:47.560 In a word, fatherhood.
00:33:49.020 Strong fathers build strong families,
00:33:51.080 and strong families built strong nations which amount to a strong civilization.
00:33:56.100 Fathers Want It is available right now for a limited time only on tuckercarlson.com.
00:34:01.200 How do you keep fathers from not breaking?
00:34:05.240 I've seen it many, many times where a father loses his job, he feels like a loser,
00:34:11.580 and then he starts behaving like a loser, and then his wife and children are unimpressed,
00:34:16.860 and so he becomes even less impressive and just cycles out of life. 0.98
00:34:21.080 either literally or just falls apart with booze
00:34:24.120 or other assorted self-destructive activities.
00:34:29.440 Well, I think we're seeing more and more of that today.
00:34:32.480 Oh, yeah, I've seen it.
00:34:34.080 At an embarrassing level, actually.
00:34:37.180 But the point of a system is what it produces,
00:34:39.160 not what it says it produces.
00:34:40.860 And our system today is attacking men.
00:34:44.240 You know, I work all the time in D.C.
00:34:46.340 All we do is pass laws and get people elected
00:34:49.420 to help protect the family.
00:34:50.400 That's what we do.
00:34:51.080 and you talk to people on Capitol Hill.
00:34:54.960 You can't bring up all of the attacks
00:34:56.940 on young boys in schools.
00:34:59.520 You can't bring up the attacks on young men 1.00
00:35:01.020 and how difficult it is because women have it worse.
00:35:04.380 Still, they say that? 0.93
00:35:05.200 They all, well, it's starting to change.
00:35:07.160 No, it's absolutely starting to change,
00:35:08.380 but you're not, you really can't.
00:35:11.320 There's no, the irony is,
00:35:13.120 is that there's a huge constituency
00:35:14.860 with the American people on this.
00:35:17.180 But when you go to Washington, D.C.,
00:35:19.180 the politicians don't want to hear about it.
00:35:21.500 They definitely don't want to talk about it.
00:35:22.700 Is that true?
00:35:24.500 Even now?
00:35:25.800 Name five politicians that are leading the target. 1.00
00:35:28.680 Well, they used to say that women were discriminated,
00:35:30.380 girls were discriminated against in schools. 1.00
00:35:31.840 Well, of course, women dominate schools completely 1.00
00:35:33.760 from top to bottom. 1.00
00:35:34.760 They graduate at a far higher rate
00:35:36.520 at every level than boys do. 1.00
00:35:38.360 They used to say, well, women are paid 0.99
00:35:39.720 a percentage of the male wage. 0.99
00:35:40.820 Well, women make more than men now,
00:35:42.420 nationally adjusted, as you know.
00:35:45.380 And like, so the data are in,
00:35:47.280 like, this is not an argument we have to have.
00:35:48.880 boys are falling behind, not girls. And I'm just amazed that people in D.C. won't admit that.
00:35:56.260 It's one of the last acceptable bigotries is against men. And it's because the news,
00:36:02.420 politicians, everywhere in our culture, the movies, we just saw Paul Ehrlich just died,
00:36:08.620 right? I was actually in the delivery room. It was a lot of fun. Oh, actually?
00:36:12.100 I was in the delivery room with the eighth child.
00:36:13.940 Giving a finger to Paul Ehrlich when he passed?
00:36:15.860 Yeah. Can you explain who Paul Ehrlich was for those who don't know?
00:36:19.000 So Paul Ehrlich wrote this book in 1968 called The Population Bomb. And he basically said that
00:36:24.540 the whole world was going to collapse if we didn't stop people from having kids. He was incredibly
00:36:30.680 evil. China's one-child policies, he didn't go over and advise them, but they read his books. 0.54
00:36:37.140 They used his course. He wanted to sterilize people forcibly. He wanted to have paid tax 0.95
00:36:42.620 incentives for people that did sterilize themselves. He wanted to have limits on how many kids. He
00:36:46.720 supported forcing people to get licenses before they could have children. These are crazy ideas
00:36:53.260 that I don't know why they took off. But the irony about Paul Ehrlich is that he made all
00:36:58.500 these predictions about devastation and chaos in the world if we didn't address the population
00:37:02.580 bomb. None of them came true. Literally, none of his ideas came true. The only one that got close
00:37:10.760 to coming true actually was he predicted that in 2000 the year 2000 that the uk would fall
00:37:15.960 that's like the closest he's gotten uh the uk is falling by the way uh but not because britains
00:37:21.580 are having too many kids no it's no it's the opposite right of course um but paul paul earlick
00:37:29.400 was an atrocious man but one of the things that he was very passionate about was his guidance for
00:37:37.780 Television and movies, if you depict a family, they should be small.
00:37:42.900 No big families in movies.
00:37:44.240 How did Paul Ehrlich have the right to advise filmmakers and TV producers on what their art should be?
00:37:50.060 Everyone, everyone was scared to death.
00:37:52.620 They really, they bought it hook, line, and sinker.
00:37:54.840 And it's not new, Tucker.
00:37:59.480 It's all so old.
00:38:00.740 The idea that people are pollution is so old, it's like kind of boring if you look throughout history.
00:38:07.540 You sacrifice your children to the gods in order to become happy and prosperous.
00:38:13.340 That's a pretty old concept.
00:38:14.760 Well, there's one group.
00:38:16.300 I actually, I have a joke for you.
00:38:18.540 I'll try it out anyway.
00:38:20.620 Two priests walk into a bar.
00:38:22.460 One's a Jesuit.
00:38:23.480 The other's a Dominican.
00:38:25.120 They're debating about who the best order is in terms of Catholic priests.
00:38:29.860 And the Jesuit says, well, we were founded by St. Ignatius of Leola.
00:38:33.020 And we were the most academic.
00:38:34.400 We're the smartest. 1.00
00:38:35.040 and we were founded to combat the Protestants.
00:38:39.760 And the Dominican priest says, 0.93
00:38:42.800 well, I think we have you beat.
00:38:45.540 We were founded by St. Dominic, 1.00
00:38:48.220 who founded us to destroy the Albigensians. 1.00
00:38:53.940 Who are the Albigensians?
00:38:56.240 When's the last time you've heard of an Albigensian? 1.00
00:38:59.240 They're like the Houthis.
00:39:00.080 They've never personally threatened me. 1.00
00:39:02.000 Well, you would think so
00:39:03.960 because you haven't heard of them.
00:39:05.040 but their ideas are everywhere.
00:39:06.940 The Albigensians were a 12th century
00:39:09.040 heretical cult of Christianity.
00:39:12.620 They basically believed that
00:39:13.960 the soul was perfect and pure,
00:39:16.660 but that the body and the physical world
00:39:18.820 were corrupted.
00:39:20.060 And so they started punishing people
00:39:22.240 for getting married.
00:39:23.560 They started encouraging people
00:39:24.800 not to have children.
00:39:25.720 Like the worst thing,
00:39:26.880 anything pleasurable,
00:39:28.080 if you've enjoyed good food, 1.00
00:39:29.700 that was a sin for the Albigensians. 0.99
00:39:31.700 If you had sex with your wife, 0.92
00:39:33.300 that having a baby was like the biggest sin you could commit for the Albigensians. 0.98
00:39:39.820 I bet they were against Marlboros and SUVs too. 0.74
00:39:42.040 I'm just guessing.
00:39:43.100 I'm just guessing.
00:39:43.980 I know these people.
00:39:44.920 They're worried about climate.
00:39:46.300 Yes.
00:39:46.900 Yes.
00:39:47.780 But they thought the worst thing you could do is trap a pure soul into a corrupted body.
00:39:52.180 Like you're actually doing this.
00:39:53.940 And those ideas are still here.
00:39:56.540 I see Albigensians everywhere in our society.
00:39:59.120 Their ideas have not died out.
00:40:01.080 They've just taken different shapes.
00:40:02.160 It's why these corporations are promoting abortion and egg freezing.
00:40:06.640 It's why states like California will take children from their parents if the parents don't affirm their gender identity.
00:40:13.460 The family precedes the state.
00:40:15.840 The family is the original community.
00:40:18.000 It's the original society.
00:40:19.780 There is no right to take children away from their parents unless there's actual serious abuse.
00:40:25.560 But we see these ideas everywhere, and they've taken hold.
00:40:28.580 And you've got, obviously, Thomas Malthus, who believed that people were pollution, Paul Ehrlich.
00:40:34.200 These guys, their policies have been failures.
00:40:39.100 They've caused misery and chaos and suffering, but they've taken hold.
00:40:43.320 All of our elite institutions, all of our elite institutions have been pushing these policies on us.
00:40:48.380 So, these ideas shapeshift, this is my read.
00:40:52.900 all of these anti-human, anti-God ideas
00:40:55.340 manifest as some slightly different ideology
00:40:58.440 depending on the period,
00:41:00.180 whether it's the Albigensians or the Marxists
00:41:03.280 or the Green Party.
00:41:06.540 All of those look antique kind of now,
00:41:08.980 especially even the climate people.
00:41:10.580 We sort of gave up on that
00:41:11.960 in exchange for building data centers.
00:41:16.860 So data centers are incompatible with green politics
00:41:19.320 because they're such a massive energy draw.
00:41:20.940 So you need all forms of electrical generation in order to power these data centers.
00:41:25.400 But what's the point of the data centers?
00:41:27.300 It's to create something called artificial intelligence, which I'm beginning to wonder.
00:41:32.280 I'm not against all AI, I guess, but I'm beginning to wonder if the agenda there is very different.
00:41:37.260 I mean, it does seem like replacing thinking with the judgment of a machine.
00:41:41.700 How is that different from what you're describing?
00:41:45.480 I think it's very similar.
00:41:47.560 It is at the heart of the entire AI industry is the belief that human beings need AI, that they need some type of overlord above them that's way smarter, that can process data.
00:42:03.300 Tucker, that is, that's I think the worst thing.
00:42:05.420 So Francis Bacon was another guy that we've discovered, and he basically believed, he was the father of modern science, but he basically believed that human beings could solve anything, that nature was actually meant for us to completely alter and mess with.
00:42:25.720 I think you're with me. I think nature exists. I think it should be respected. There are rules.
00:42:32.540 You shouldn't have sex outside of marriage. You should be open to life. You shouldn't steal.
00:42:37.320 You shouldn't cheat. You shouldn't lie. But these guys want to change. You can't kill the innocent.
00:42:42.280 You can't sterilize the innocent, right? They believe that they are their own gods. 0.57
00:42:48.500 I had a Dominican priest. I had to go back to the Dominicans. When the whole sex changes for 1.00
00:42:52.860 kids thing took off. I went to a very dark place. I just couldn't believe that it was happening. 0.86
00:42:57.960 And I kept seeing these pictures and these stories are all horrific. So I call my friend,
00:43:02.840 Tim, from Franciscan University. He's a Dominican priest now. And I'm lamenting all this. I can't
00:43:07.540 believe they're sterilizing kids and they're mutilating their bodies. And he broke it down.
00:43:11.500 He said, what we're dealing with right now with this issue is two things. One, it's very, very old.
00:43:17.100 and two, it's very, very new.
00:43:19.180 The old is the Garden of Eden.
00:43:22.140 It is us trying to become our own gods
00:43:24.240 and shape all of everything about us, 0.99
00:43:27.040 even reject the biological sex 0.76
00:43:30.700 that God assigned to you,
00:43:32.240 that God gave you.
00:43:34.540 But he said that the new is the technology.
00:43:37.700 Previous societies did not
00:43:39.040 even understand hormone levels.
00:43:41.020 So we have these new technologies
00:43:42.760 and that is the Francis Bacon effect,
00:43:45.720 is the new technologies.
00:43:46.740 and conquering nature
00:43:50.280 and reshaping it to something darker,
00:43:55.480 something that they can control and manipulate.
00:43:58.620 I don't think you can beat nature, can you?
00:44:01.020 No, nature always wins.
00:44:02.520 That's because God is real, right?
00:44:05.960 Like there was a designer for our universe
00:44:08.360 and for our world and for humanity.
00:44:10.520 And he made these rules.
00:44:13.040 And if you reject them,
00:44:14.920 you're gonna have a bad time.
00:44:16.740 yeah that's why i like bad weather because it reminds you of that
00:44:21.300 really yes i mean it sort of doesn't matter what your ideology is if you go out naked in a snow
00:44:29.100 storm you're gonna die because nature is more powerful than you yes that's just a fact yes
00:44:33.160 and you can you know change your sex i guess but you can't change the need to be at 98.6 at all 0.94
00:44:40.760 times before you die. So it's like, it's such a great reminder. I wonder though,
00:44:47.020 as it relates to fatherhood, like the description of a good father, because fatherhood is part of
00:44:56.680 nature, can't be that different from era to era, right? No matter what we, in the moment we're
00:45:02.840 living in, describe as a good father, there is a kind of absolute standard for good fatherhood.
00:45:07.500 There has to be because there is in the natural world.
00:45:12.760 Yeah, and it hasn't changed.
00:45:14.920 I mean, there are eternal truths.
00:45:16.860 A good father has always provided for his family.
00:45:19.200 He's always protected them.
00:45:20.680 And he's procreated.
00:45:22.340 That's like, you have to procreate to become a father. 0.95
00:45:25.640 Protect, procreate.
00:45:27.100 And procreate and discipline and teach rules.
00:45:30.000 Be merciful.
00:45:31.120 Teach your kids.
00:45:31.940 You know, there's a lot of new studies that have been coming out over the last 10 years
00:45:35.120 about fatherhood and how it impacts and shapes the individual
00:45:38.920 and how it impacts and shapes the kids.
00:45:40.760 One thing that was very interesting to me was,
00:45:43.280 I think it was in Reason Magazine of all places,
00:45:45.520 they wrote about how fathers are actually the ones
00:45:48.840 that instill empathy in their children.
00:45:51.120 And how they explained it was that fathers and men
00:45:53.640 are naturally concerned about themselves.
00:45:57.460 Like we're kind of in our own heads
00:45:58.540 and we're always thinking about what we need to do for our lives.
00:46:01.660 And so like when your kid breaks your $400 drill,
00:46:05.120 you're going down and lecturing them and saying,
00:46:07.340 you know how hard I had to work for that $400 drill.
00:46:09.400 I can't believe you used it without my permission.
00:46:11.560 You know you're not supposed to do this.
00:46:13.460 We get kids to think about other people. 0.88
00:46:15.600 Whereas like the moms are always gonna be like, 1.00
00:46:17.320 oh, don't worry about it. 1.00
00:46:18.880 Your dad will just get another one.
00:46:20.660 Don't feel that bad. 1.00
00:46:22.280 So moms, no, moms build self-esteem. 1.00
00:46:26.080 Moms still play a pivotal role. 1.00
00:46:28.340 There's a use to teaching your kids
00:46:30.520 not to be suicidal over breaking a drill, right?
00:46:33.120 But dads are the ones that instill empathy.
00:46:34.760 It's so obvious. Women are more empathetic, of course, or we think of them that way. But societies in which there are very few fathers, matriarchal societies are far less empathetic, far less empathetic than patriarchal societies. And you know that because they're like massively high crime rates in all societies run by women. And those are way less empathetic societies. Like that's the proof.
00:46:57.280 Yes. And, you know, I think largely I have a friend that we lament women because they're hard to understand, they're complicated. And he tells this funny joke. He said, you know what the difference between complex and complicated is? And complex, a jet engine is complex. There's all these intricate parts that all logically make sense and then work together, but it's complex. 1.00
00:47:21.200 So Rube Goldberg machine is complex.
00:47:22.900 Yes. Yes. Women are complicated.
00:47:25.060 Yes, that's right. 1.00
00:47:25.700 They're hard to understand, especially if you're a guy.
00:47:28.100 But there's a whole nature of that.
00:47:29.700 And I think that one of the ways that our elites have really screwed us over 0.63
00:47:34.280 is convincing women that having a career, having a good job is the basis of a good life
00:47:42.080 and not becoming a mother.
00:47:44.320 Do women believe that, do you think? 1.00
00:47:45.820 Yes.
00:47:46.400 And actually, just recently-
00:47:48.160 Do you know people who believe that?
00:47:49.760 Yes.
00:47:50.340 Oh, I mean, ask any woman. 0.98
00:47:51.500 Who actually believe that, though? 0.86
00:47:52.740 That think that a career is the most important thing for a good life?
00:47:57.960 Yes, 100%.
00:47:59.340 They don't...
00:48:00.420 You've met a woman who believes that, who believes a career working at the bank, working at the AI startup. 0.99
00:48:07.080 They'll at least say the politically smart thing.
00:48:08.140 It's actually preferable to having a husband who loves you, takes care of you, and provides you children. 1.00
00:48:13.140 I don't think there's a woman alive who actually believes that. 0.99
00:48:15.980 Well, a lot of people...
00:48:17.320 There's a lot of lies in our society, and people will say the lies.
00:48:20.140 Well, the lies we tell ourselves are the most powerful, aren't they?
00:48:22.140 Right, right.
00:48:22.440 And women today, I think they all know deep down, they really would do better with a husband.
00:48:28.040 They really would be happier with a kid, right? 0.98
00:48:30.740 I think, you know, biologically, with a husband that could provide, why do you want to go
00:48:35.580 help Jeff Bezos make more money?
00:48:37.800 Why do you want to go help Bill Gates make more money?
00:48:40.100 Why do you want to help all these super wealthy white billionaires make more money? 0.63
00:48:45.340 So you can be, quote, independent as you become totally dependent on a company that has no
00:48:50.440 regard for you at all as a person.
00:48:51.960 yes exactly i'm so independent i work at jp morgan i'm so independent yes but tucker the
00:48:59.280 it's so sad because these women are missing out no i don't you know i don't know why i'm laughing
00:49:04.300 i'm laughing at the irony because everything is irony but um yeah no it's the tragedy of america
00:49:09.000 really and you know the the egg freezing and the abortion tourism it's so evil because these women
00:49:17.480 And my dad died with 10 of us surrounding him. 1.00
00:49:21.900 That's beautiful.
00:49:23.960 You're going to have a lonely death.
00:49:26.100 And how things are heading.
00:49:27.000 I don't think they tell you that at your orientation in investment banking, though, do they?
00:49:30.200 No.
00:49:30.700 I don't think there's any encouragement to think through to the end.
00:49:32.880 How does this end exactly?
00:49:34.180 Exactly.
00:49:34.500 By myself?
00:49:35.360 No. 0.99
00:49:35.580 In an assisted living community where there's some foreign-born nurse who doesn't know my name, that's the end?
00:49:41.860 That is the end, actually, for a lot of people. 0.99
00:49:44.280 and we should tell them that at the start.
00:49:47.400 Like, how do you want this to end?
00:49:48.600 That's a totally fair question,
00:49:49.960 whether you're talking about war or your own life.
00:49:52.500 Like, what does this look like in the final stage?
00:49:55.440 Well, I think if you go back to the AI situation,
00:49:58.960 a lot of speculation that AI is going to eliminate
00:50:01.320 every single job and we'll all be prosperous.
00:50:03.460 That's the lie they're telling us.
00:50:05.260 We won't need to make money.
00:50:06.280 We won't need to work. 0.64
00:50:07.540 Machines will run our lives.
00:50:08.560 Okay, fine, whatever.
00:50:10.700 But-
00:50:11.380 Won't need to work.
00:50:12.920 Oh, that sounds fun.
00:50:13.600 But let's imagine that scenario, though, where you don't have to work, where you are living in heaven.
00:50:19.860 You're going to have a family.
00:50:21.200 You're going to have children.
00:50:22.540 That is the ideal.
00:50:23.740 If you don't have all this noise around you.
00:50:25.760 Well, I don't have to imagine how it works because I grew up in a trust fund world.
00:50:28.800 So I know exactly how it works.
00:50:30.180 And it works where, you know, you become an alcoholic, sleep with the au pair, you're reviled by your children, then you shoot yourself.
00:50:35.840 That's what a life of no working looks like.
00:50:37.960 And then on the bottom end, the welfare world, which is the mirror image of the trust fund world, it's the same.
00:50:42.780 it's true despair because a man needs work for meaning in his life he protects and provides
00:50:49.200 that's where his sense of himself comes that's his duty and if he doesn't achieve it he hates
00:50:53.500 himself so like a world without work is hell it's not it's not advisable i've seen it seeking it
00:50:59.660 but the um the the people that put their careers first and that you know are going along with this
00:51:06.300 lie because like look they might not believe it but they're doing it right and they're living it
00:51:10.820 And what they're missing out on, the work is the what, right?
00:51:17.360 It's what you do.
00:51:18.680 The family is the why.
00:51:20.600 You get a job and you work hard at it so that you can provide for your family.
00:51:26.140 The idea that you have a job so that you can build a legacy for yourself is not right, not correct.
00:51:33.340 It's not going to happen.
00:51:34.200 No one will remember you, especially the company you work for.
00:51:37.100 The company that you work for, 0.91
00:51:38.820 if you're a woman that is planning to never get married, 0.98
00:51:41.360 that company, the day you die, 0.61
00:51:43.300 the day you leave the company,
00:51:44.600 they are going to immediately start preparing to replace you.
00:51:47.920 Your children can't do that.
00:51:49.280 Your children won't do that.
00:51:50.720 Unless you're a bad mom or a bad dad.
00:51:52.380 No, but you're right.
00:51:53.520 But you're missing out on the eternal.
00:51:56.440 You're missing out on the why.
00:51:57.860 When you say, I need to get a college degree,
00:52:00.160 an advanced college degree, or I need to get a job.
00:52:02.220 I need to put everything in my life ahead of my family.
00:52:06.160 Family's not even advisable.
00:52:09.160 It's a disaster.
00:52:10.360 It's an absolute disaster.
00:52:12.260 Yeah, I mean, first of all, you work so your wife will be proud of you.
00:52:15.040 Just to put it in one.
00:52:16.160 You know, your father worked so hard.
00:52:17.840 That's right.
00:52:18.740 That's why I say grace at the table.
00:52:20.640 Because I work so hard.
00:52:21.360 No, I mean, that's like, this is actually nature. 1.00
00:52:23.980 And I just feel like the program that we have sold to young people in our country is so unnatural and like bizarre and would make no sense to any so-called backward country. 1.00
00:52:35.280 they'd look at this and be like, what? 0.53
00:52:36.620 And I spent a lot of time in backward countries
00:52:38.420 and they do look at it like, what? 0.97
00:52:40.460 That it can't persist.
00:52:41.960 Like you can't, I mean, we're fighting gravity here, kind of.
00:52:45.360 Like this is not the natural order at all.
00:52:49.320 Well, so it's doomed.
00:52:51.200 Well, I don't think it's doomed.
00:52:52.360 I don't think anything's ever doomed.
00:52:53.760 No, but I mean, the lies that we're telling ourselves
00:52:56.600 currently, men and women are exactly the same.
00:53:00.280 They occupy no unique role in the universe.
00:53:02.700 They just can sort of choose it.
00:53:04.580 working for, you know,
00:53:07.420 Microsoft is more meaningful
00:53:09.000 than having five children.
00:53:10.160 Like, these are such obvious lies
00:53:11.780 that don't they have to just
00:53:13.480 crumble at some point?
00:53:14.740 And I do think they're going to be
00:53:16.280 crumbling here soon.
00:53:17.600 It can't go on much longer.
00:53:18.900 It feels like it now.
00:53:19.740 Even that you're saying this out loud,
00:53:21.340 you couldn't,
00:53:21.740 if you said this 10 years ago,
00:53:23.640 right?
00:53:25.160 Yeah.
00:53:25.740 Well, you weren't really,
00:53:27.340 I don't think the crisis
00:53:28.220 was as big of a deal
00:53:29.180 or it wasn't as apparent
00:53:30.600 how urgent
00:53:31.440 the family formation crisis was
00:53:33.240 or that we were prioritizing putting women in the workforce over family.
00:53:38.020 I mean, I was in high school from 2001 to 2005,
00:53:43.160 and family was the center of everyone's life.
00:53:45.260 And maybe it was the part of the country I grew up in.
00:53:46.740 Maybe the Quad Cities is just better than all these major cities
00:53:49.300 or East Coast or West Coast stuff.
00:53:51.100 But family was very much the center of everyone's life.
00:53:55.020 And you learn that from talking to people at the pizza shop.
00:53:58.340 But one thing, one big change that I've noticed in our society is public parks.
00:54:06.740 Public parks are interesting because they're in major cities and space is finite.
00:54:11.720 So when you decide to put an area up as a public park, you're basically telling people what your top priorities are.
00:54:20.040 50s, 60s, all that.
00:54:21.480 When we had the massive expansion of parks throughout our country over the last century, up until recently, they were all kids' parks.
00:54:29.260 When you say, I'm going to go to the park, you immediately envision playgrounds and swings and merry-go-rounds, all of that.
00:54:37.880 But today, if you go to the inner cities, dog parks are outranking kid parks.
00:54:44.000 The kid parks are empty.
00:54:45.480 I went to a dog park, and I talked to some of the people there.
00:54:47.900 And one girl, I asked her, you know, how many dogs she has.
00:54:51.900 She had two, but she's a dog walker.
00:54:53.660 I love dogs, by the way.
00:54:54.560 I don't want to attack dogs.
00:54:56.640 But I talked to another guy.
00:54:59.040 He said, I asked him if he was ever planning to get married and having kids.
00:55:02.260 He said, well, I've got all these international weddings I have to go to.
00:55:05.300 And that's not the main point.
00:55:08.580 We're directing all of these resources to dog runs and dog parks and not kid parks.
00:55:14.660 In Hong Kong, it's actually a bit worse in a way. 0.90
00:55:20.380 The parks are actually for senior citizens.
00:55:24.820 They're low-impact exercise machines like hip twisters and all of that. 1.00
00:55:30.460 And they don't have children.
00:55:32.260 Their birth rate is like under, I think it's under 1.09 or something.
00:55:37.380 It's devastating.
00:55:38.460 But these people either direct the money and the resources towards dogs or the elderly.
00:55:45.800 If you look at federal spending on welfare and entitlements, it's five to one welfare benefits going to people 65 and up.
00:55:53.960 We need to start reversing that back to young people and families to get them a more stable life.
00:56:01.680 We're telling the world and our citizens what our priorities are every time we build a dog park. 0.97
00:56:09.180 I got to think, so your breakdown of federal spending, I do think it's an indictment of a specific generation.
00:56:15.360 I'm not going to name them boomers, but I think that generation and the last year, it was 1964, the year after the Kennedy assassination. 0.86
00:56:25.560 They're on their way out. 0.51
00:56:27.560 The youngest are 62.
00:56:29.540 The oldest are 80.
00:56:31.040 So, once that generation, which has completely destroyed America, not all of them, but most, don't you think there will be change? 0.99
00:56:40.940 I think there will be a lot of change. 1.00
00:56:43.460 You know, these boomers have really screwed up our country and they really hurt young people. 1.00
00:56:48.480 The boomers are the most selfish generation ever. 0.99
00:56:50.780 If World War II was such a massive success, how did it give rise to that generation? 0.99
00:56:54.900 They came back from the war and had those people. 0.69
00:56:57.540 So, like, I'm not, again, you know, I'm totally very anti-Nazi, want to be clear. 0.97
00:57:01.860 But, like, if that's the founding myth of our country, that winning that war was such a win, then how did they produce the baby boomers? 0.96
00:57:08.800 Well, there's probably a lot of reasons. 0.89
00:57:11.180 There's a lot of reasons, but there's something really heavy going on there.
00:57:14.300 Like, how could you wreck it all with one generation?
00:57:17.640 I think that they, I think that the greatest generation, the World War II generation, they went through the Depression.
00:57:26.460 They went through a world war.
00:57:28.640 Some of them went through two world wars.
00:57:30.380 I think they were ready for prosperity.
00:57:33.260 Yeah.
00:57:33.560 Right? 0.99
00:57:33.800 And I think that they kind of spoiled their children.
00:57:35.560 I sat down with Bishop Robert Barron.
00:57:37.780 Yeah.
00:57:38.120 And he told the story of King David and one of his sons.
00:57:43.620 So Absalom.
00:57:45.500 Who killed his brother. 0.67
00:57:46.540 He killed his brother.
00:57:48.200 He tried to overthrow King David as the king.
00:57:52.180 He rose up and that's what we're seeing.
00:57:54.680 And then he got killed.
00:57:55.260 He got killed by God, basically. 1.00
00:57:58.680 But this is what we're experiencing with the boomers, is they are Absalom. 1.00
00:58:04.200 They weren't disciplined. 0.97
00:58:05.360 They didn't have to go without.
00:58:06.800 You know, my great-grandmother, it helps being from a big family because the eldest, I got
00:58:11.780 to know my great-grandmother.
00:58:12.600 She was 64 when I was born.
00:58:14.080 She lived another 31 years.
00:58:16.980 And the stories I would hear from her, I was always grateful, right?
00:58:20.220 I think that Greatest Generation, at least for me, instilled gratitude.
00:58:25.260 And I don't know why it didn't translate to their children because their children are only entitled.
00:58:31.740 And there's, and you said it earlier, there's a lot of good ones out there.
00:58:35.120 But the majority, I think, are very self-centered.
00:58:38.900 They were the generation that gave us all of this nonsense.
00:58:41.820 Oh, I know. 1.00
00:58:43.000 I'm very aware of that.
00:58:43.980 And they're sitting on all the wealth.
00:58:45.160 They're sitting on multiple homes.
00:58:46.880 And here, let's go back to this.
00:58:48.580 There are so many, we give so much more resources.
00:58:52.920 you know, in the big, beautiful bill, I liked most of it. They give $6,000 checks to senior
00:58:58.560 citizens. They don't need money. They have all the money. They have all the homes. They're not
00:59:04.300 selling them. It costs $750,000 to get a townhome in DC. Townhomes are for families. They're for
00:59:13.480 new families, actually. And they're supposed to be affordable. But now they're $750,000 because
00:59:18.540 the boomers aren't selling their multiple homes. In California, there's this interesting dynamic
00:59:24.080 where there was a lawsuit that was challenging whether or not you could do property tax freezes
00:59:30.440 for senior citizens. They were arguing, the people that were challenging it were saying,
00:59:33.740 this is age discrimination. You can't allow them, give them a different set of rules than
00:59:38.840 the rest of us. And the courts obviously ruled in favor of the boomers because the judges are 1.00
00:59:43.560 all boomers. But it's insane that we are freezing property taxes for these boomers who got their 0.68
00:59:50.660 homes for eight raspberries and a blueberry and a horse. They've had so much appreciation
00:59:57.780 of the value of their properties. It's skyrocketed. Why do they get tax relief when working?
01:00:04.900 The tax burden and the onus is all on young families. And we need to start reversing this. 0.51
01:00:10.960 If we don't start reversing this, young people are not going to get married.
01:00:14.340 Well, they're also going to get really, really dark politics.
01:00:18.440 And I interviewed Nick Fuentes, who I disagree with on a lot, earlier this year and was attacked for it, whatever.
01:00:27.180 But one of the main reasons I wanted to talk to him was like, this guy's super popular.
01:00:31.440 Like, what is he saying?
01:00:32.400 What is this?
01:00:34.020 This is a totally different kind of politics, completely different kind of politics than anything I've covered at 56.
01:00:39.740 Like, I'm just interested.
01:00:40.960 And one of the things I learned from the experience was younger people have totally different politics.
01:00:46.160 And by my standards as a middle-aged person, they're pretty radical.
01:00:50.540 Yes.
01:00:51.000 And how did that happen?
01:00:52.580 Well, it happened by taking away all their opportunity and then ignoring them when they complained about it.
01:00:57.740 So, of course, they have.
01:00:58.860 And by the way, my sense is that Nick Fuentes will be considered pretty moderate very soon.
01:01:04.340 So like, if you want a stable, moderate country,
01:01:08.160 you have to take care of people and give them opportunity, right?
01:01:11.220 There are massive consequences for behaving this way, I think.
01:01:14.500 You want more fathers.
01:01:15.720 You want more families.
01:01:16.800 If you want to moderate in politics,
01:01:18.560 you want people that are serious about solutions to problems
01:01:21.640 that actually are willing to address problems.
01:01:23.660 Yes. 0.86
01:01:24.120 You want more fathers. 1.00
01:01:25.360 You want more mothers.
01:01:26.280 You want more children and families
01:01:27.780 because when you become a father,
01:01:30.240 when you become a husband,
01:01:30.980 you're thinking long-term.
01:01:31.940 That's so smart.
01:01:32.340 You're no longer thinking about today.
01:01:33.620 ballast in a ship. Yes. It keeps it steady. Yes. Like I'm a dad, I've got kids. Can't get too
01:01:40.740 crazy because I've got children. I mean, that's just like a baseline impulse, don't you think,
01:01:44.740 in fathers? Yes. These kids are being radicalized because they don't, most of them are products of
01:01:53.120 the divorce generation. So you have like compounding dysfunction there. Not only did
01:01:58.300 their parents divorced, but their parents' parents divorced. And so I went into my marriage
01:02:04.120 under the belief that this is the most sacred of all the agreements I'm ever going to sign in my
01:02:10.440 life. I can sign contracts with corporations. I can sign business deals. But this is the one I
01:02:15.880 can never break. It has to come before everything else. But this whole no-fault divorce situation
01:02:20.920 basically said, no, your marriage is actually the least important of all the agreements.
01:02:26.440 But the only thing that the only agreement you can't break in modern America is paying your credit card interest.
01:02:32.080 And I suggest because I'm totally for not paying your credit card interest.
01:02:35.160 I think you should stiff Citibank.
01:02:36.300 That's my personal view.
01:02:37.320 And I've suggested that before to conservatives.
01:02:39.760 They're like, that's what?
01:02:41.880 And I was like, no, these people are evil.
01:02:43.660 Just like, I don't put the bank out of business.
01:02:45.680 Just how about don't pay?
01:02:47.240 And they looked at me like I was a freak, which and that may be freaky.
01:02:50.200 I'm not actually in real life suggesting that, though.
01:02:52.180 I kind of am.
01:02:53.020 But like the same people are like, yeah, well, it didn't work out.
01:02:55.880 they got divorced. So that just tells you where the priorities are. It's immoral to stiff a bank,
01:03:00.620 but it's okay to stiff your wife. Like, how does that work? What are those values? 1.00
01:03:05.320 Well, it's obviously predatory. It's obviously, you know, not treating the human person
01:03:09.720 as a child of God, right? They're treating us like hogs in a machine. That's what the elites 0.81
01:03:14.540 and all the industries view us as, is pieces to play on the field that can make our products and
01:03:21.500 do our services, they don't look at you as a dad. They don't look at you as a husband.
01:03:26.240 They want you back in the workforce for maximum efficiency. And by the way,
01:03:31.640 you're reading all about these artificial wombs and egg freezing and IVF and all of that stuff.
01:03:37.820 I don't judge or attack anyone that's gone through IVF, except if you buy a baby 1.00
01:03:43.160 as a gay couple or something. I think that's really messed up. 1.00
01:03:47.380 I think that makes you a conservative leader if you do that.
01:03:49.660 it makes you yeah you get a podcast you get to yell at other people talk about conservatism
01:03:53.980 the trump coalition yeah but the no those are no i know it's sorry sorry sorry but it's it's
01:04:01.660 the commodification of the human person and that is ultimate you know you i love your actual i i
01:04:06.940 kind of love it i'm not endorsing it specifically i need to do more research into it but not paying
01:04:10.780 your credit cards sounds like a great way to get these you know credit card companies to stop
01:04:14.440 preying on well how about but my idea was like let's have a hey let's not pay our credit card
01:04:18.360 party where that's the that's the only like bullet point on the agenda is we all agree not to pay
01:04:24.480 our credit and just to negotiate terms like because trump is always bragging about how well
01:04:28.080 you know if you take a big enough loan from a bank they have to negotiate with you like you're
01:04:31.900 in charge because they're exposed because it's just too much money which i get i'm not criticizing
01:04:36.160 it but like why not create a union to do the same for the entire public like stop sending credit
01:04:41.520 card solicitations to kids stop charging 20 interest like that should be illegal that's 0.92
01:04:46.680 That's ridiculous. The mafia used to go to jail and to Rico for that, but it's okay for Citibank?
01:04:52.120 That's all I said. And it was like, what? What? And I was like, oh, I found the tender spot.
01:05:00.520 Well, this is what really annoys me about Republicans. And they're so corporate-centered.
01:05:05.480 They're so free market-centered. When Trump mandated that credit card companies couldn't
01:05:11.280 go over 10%, all these libertarian right-wing think tanks started criticizing him as an
01:05:16.540 enemy of the free market. If that's an enemy of the free market, then consider me one,
01:05:20.060 right? Because they're taking advantage of poor people. Rich people don't really use credit cards. 0.98
01:05:25.660 They pay them off every month. Of course.
01:05:27.100 But the poor people are the ones that pay the interest. And that's why- 0.94
01:05:30.860 We still have payday loans, dude. I mean, I know. And the only kind of capitalism they seem to
01:05:36.740 really endorse is like sending tax dollars to weapons companies. And I'm like, I'm a wuss or
01:05:42.780 something if I'm not for that or a peacenik, which I'm not, obviously. I'm like, yeah. Anyway.
01:05:48.100 Yeah. Don't even get me going, Terry. Okay. So let me just, let me end on this because a more
01:05:53.120 positive note. And it's about your dad and because you clearly consider him a great father and you
01:06:01.220 become a father of eight, which is just amazing. God bless you. Thank you. What did you, trite
01:06:06.660 question, but I think you probably have a real answer. What did you learn from him? Like as
01:06:09.900 you go about the business of raising eight children.
01:06:12.640 What do you, when do you think about your dad?
01:06:15.780 Oh, that's a great question.
01:06:18.800 I think about him a lot.
01:06:20.220 I think about him every time I hold a new baby.
01:06:23.040 You know, my dad, this is actually advice
01:06:25.060 for anyone that becomes a father
01:06:26.340 or is going to have another kid.
01:06:27.800 If you're the dad, one, you got to be in the delivery room
01:06:30.860 and you got to look, right?
01:06:32.800 One, you got to watch that kid come out.
01:06:34.400 That's a wild experience.
01:06:36.360 Oh, it is incredible.
01:06:37.980 It is so euphoric.
01:06:39.100 but you're the first guy
01:06:40.700 that gets to see that kid's face
01:06:42.280 and you know
01:06:43.900 your wife's going through
01:06:45.360 all this hell 1.00
01:06:46.240 like pushing this kid out 0.78
01:06:47.660 or getting your stomach ripped open
01:06:49.060 the least you can do
01:06:50.580 to participate
01:06:51.160 is to see your child come out
01:06:52.800 right
01:06:53.100 but that
01:06:53.960 he advised me on the first one
01:06:55.880 and I haven't ever looked away since
01:06:58.340 and it's such a special experience
01:06:59.920 but
01:07:00.720 I think
01:07:02.420 working hard
01:07:03.740 my goodness
01:07:04.920 sacrificing yourself
01:07:06.720 accusing yourself
01:07:08.020 you know my dad
01:07:08.980 And accusing your kids.
01:07:10.640 I think it's okay to accuse your kids.
01:07:12.120 And my dad, because of his addiction,
01:07:14.140 he always was paranoid that one of us kids was a drug addict.
01:07:19.080 It's good to be paranoid.
01:07:20.540 One time, we work in the pizza restaurant.
01:07:23.400 You get tips when you clean out the tables and all that.
01:07:25.880 Well, my brother is just weird.
01:07:27.720 And he keeps his dollar bills like rolled up.
01:07:30.120 I'll never forget my dad was like topping it down
01:07:32.540 to see if there's any Coke in it.
01:07:33.680 And it's like, dad, I'm not doing Coke.
01:07:35.740 But that was actually him loving us
01:07:37.800 Because he was thinking, well, I did crack, so it's not impossible.
01:07:41.980 I found a rolled up bill in one of my kids' pockets.
01:07:44.140 That would be the first thing I would think.
01:07:45.460 Yeah.
01:07:46.220 Yeah.
01:07:46.500 Obviously.
01:07:47.240 And at the time, you're offended.
01:07:49.680 Like, how could you ever possibly leave?
01:07:51.200 I would do coke.
01:07:51.560 Kids are so offended.
01:07:52.440 But he was a crack addict.
01:07:53.920 I think one of the benefits of having a crack addict as a father, like people hear that
01:07:57.960 and they're like, oh my gosh, that must have been so terrible.
01:07:59.680 I'm grateful for it. 1.00
01:08:00.860 And it prepared me for the world we live in today, which is like Gen Zers are all being 1.00
01:08:06.020 raised by these women on amphetamines and SSRIs and Xanax and all of that. So, it helps me relate 1.00
01:08:12.680 to them and actually connect with them to know what they're going through. And it helps me speak
01:08:17.800 to them. Do you think they have a sense that their parents are on drugs, prescription drugs?
01:08:22.740 I don't think the parents hide it. I mean, it's hard to hide. These women, it's like a whole thing.
01:08:27.860 They compete. They brag about the drugs that they're on, the pharmaceuticals. 1.00
01:08:31.220 and you know
01:08:33.680 Tucker I just want to say that
01:08:34.900 the industries have monopolized
01:08:37.920 our time so much
01:08:39.440 and taken over our lives 1.00
01:08:40.580 that these poor women 0.99
01:08:42.200 and men at this point
01:08:43.380 have to take Adderall
01:08:44.840 to have the energy
01:08:45.520 to do their job every day
01:08:46.620 but then they have to take
01:08:47.960 the anti-anxiety medication
01:08:49.260 to combat that
01:08:50.660 and then they're taking
01:08:51.660 all these other pills
01:08:52.440 you take a pill
01:08:54.220 then you have to take pills
01:08:55.160 to combat the side effects of it all
01:08:56.880 that is what these industries
01:08:59.200 have done through this fake
01:09:00.740 concept known as the work-life balance is they've monopolized our lives and taken over where
01:09:05.860 we need pharmaceutical drugs just to exist and be happy do you feel like change is coming
01:09:10.380 some type of change i don't know if it's going to be good uh but it seems pretty dark it seems
01:09:16.180 very dark right now um you know 40 of gen zers say they don't want to get married 43 say they
01:09:22.780 don't want to have kids. That's insane. That is not a sign for hope. Now, I do think, you know,
01:09:30.820 they have those other charts where I think there is some hope, which show that liberals and 0.97
01:09:35.940 progressives and, you know, these types, they're not having kids, but the Christians are. I think 0.98
01:09:40.200 that's a very good sign for our country. I just don't know if it's in time. I hope it is. I think
01:09:44.720 if times are going to get bad, though, you want to have kids, right? I think one thing that we've
01:09:51.420 really gotten wrong. That's your team, man. That's it. That's what matters. Christianity
01:09:56.300 is what we're here for, right? If God actually exists, then he's the full story. If you actually 0.79
01:10:01.620 believe in God, you can't not believe that he's the main character. He is the main character and
01:10:06.860 we live by his rules. But if times are going to get bad, you want to have kids. The Bible's very
01:10:13.100 clear. Children are a blessing from the Lord, right? They're a blessing from the Lord. Blessed
01:10:19.060 is a man whose quiver is full. He will not be left in shame as his enemy is at the gates.
01:10:24.800 We need more kids. So, I mean, we're going to keep going. We're open to whatever God sends us
01:10:29.780 because I don't think I have a right to tell God no, right? If my wife gets pregnant, 0.69
01:10:35.740 I think there was a divine hand in that. And he's saying we need, you know, there's an old 1.00
01:10:41.520 proverb. I forget who said it, but it's, you know, every new baby born is a sign from God
01:10:47.000 that he wants the world to continue.
01:10:49.340 He's sending his helpers.
01:10:50.440 He's sending his people
01:10:51.100 that have different skill sets,
01:10:52.420 different dispositions.
01:10:54.200 And so we're going to keep taking them.
01:10:55.620 Who wouldn't want that?
01:10:56.520 Who wouldn't want to like
01:10:57.420 sit at the head of a big table
01:10:58.780 and be the patriarch?
01:11:00.020 I don't understand that.
01:11:01.240 That seems like the most basic
01:11:02.460 desire of the male heart.
01:11:04.980 I thought that's what men did want.
01:11:07.220 I've always wanted that my whole life.
01:11:10.460 Dogs running around,
01:11:12.180 little conversations going on
01:11:13.360 at the end of the table.
01:11:14.620 It's the best, dude.
01:11:16.080 It's the best.
01:11:16.600 I mean, like what else is there?
01:11:18.380 Yes.
01:11:19.120 No amount of room service or carnival cruises
01:11:22.000 or weekends in St. Barts could approach
01:11:24.180 the deep joy and satisfaction
01:11:26.180 of sitting at the head of a table of your descendants.
01:11:28.480 It's like the greatest thing that's ever been.
01:11:30.760 I thought everybody thought that.
01:11:32.920 Well, I think that the issue is the single life, 0.99
01:11:39.140 the unmarried life, the childless life, 0.68
01:11:41.300 it's very comfortable.
01:11:42.860 It is fun.
01:11:44.040 It is, you can do whatever you want.
01:11:47.200 It's innocuous.
01:11:49.260 It's like weed, right?
01:11:50.780 Weed seems to be like it's not a threat,
01:11:53.240 like it's not a big deal.
01:11:54.940 But people will go 40, 50 years smoking pot every day.
01:11:58.160 And then by the time that time is over,
01:12:00.060 they look back at their life,
01:12:00.880 they can't remember anything.
01:12:02.200 They don't know what happened in their life.
01:12:03.960 I've smoked a lot of weed in my life.
01:12:05.440 I hate drugs, but I have done it a lot.
01:12:08.620 And talk about aiming low.
01:12:11.160 Yes.
01:12:11.500 That's what you want? To not remember or something? Why wouldn't you want to sit at a table with your descendants? I mean, that's just like...
01:12:20.420 Well, the single life is just as innocuous. It doesn't seem threatening. You're told by every corner of our society, by the elites, that being single and child-free is actually prosperity, is actually human flourishing.
01:12:39.080 So these poor people have been lied to.
01:12:41.000 They've been manipulated into serving the state
01:12:44.100 and their corporate masters.
01:12:45.900 Man, that's the lamest thing to ever want.
01:12:48.140 It is.
01:12:48.880 Ever.
01:12:49.180 It is.
01:12:49.780 Terry Schilling, thank you for this.
01:12:50.960 Congratulations on child number eight.
01:12:53.460 It's incredible.
01:12:54.760 I know that when people,
01:12:56.020 I'm sure that like they say catty things
01:12:57.720 to you when you got on airplanes,
01:12:58.700 but deep down they're envious.
01:13:00.220 Thank you, Tucker.
01:13:00.880 It's true.
01:13:01.520 Thank you.