Exposing the Globalist Agenda to Destroy the Family, Sterilize Humanity, and How to Escape It
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On this episode of BetOnline, we sit down with a very special guest. He's a father of 8, a husband, and a husband to his wife. He's also the co-owner of a pizza shop in his hometown of Waterloo, Iowa. We talk about his life growing up in a family of 10 kids, how he became a father, and his love for pizza.
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terry thanks for doing this what do you know about fatherhood
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uh well uh my wife and i just had number eight right so uh i look i will tell you this when you
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say just well we might go no no but i mean when did you have number eight uh last week uh and
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you know she i was i just want to convey the eminence of it to be fair to me i'm a good
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husband and father i did ask her if i she wanted us to reschedule this and she's such a huge fan
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of your show and everything you do, she was like, no, you have to do it. Don't miss out on this.
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Thank you. Well, that's amazing. So as a father of eight.
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Well, I would say that, you know, I'm the eldest of 10 kids. I grew up working with my dad in our
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pizza shop. I had an amazing relationship with him and I got to see what being a father is
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firsthand. And I had amazing grandparents and amazing great-grandparents. But even more so,
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I just, I love my wife. I met her when I was 20 years old. We started dating. We were on a
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presidential campaign out in Iowa, and I fell madly in love with her, and it hasn't stopped.
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And so, you know, I love being a dad because these kids are all unique and different. They
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make the world more beautiful. They're funny. They're bad. It strengthens me as a person,
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but I just, I love my wife. I love my kids. I love finding out who they are, right? Because
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when you're raising them, you learn who your children are and who they're going to become.
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And each one of them is so different. It's funny. You said in that, I agree with everything that
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you said, but the one thing you said twice was, I love my wife. So it sounds like your marriage
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is at the center of your thinking of yourself as a father.
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But the only regrets that I'm going to have on my deathbed
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And the only thing I'm going to regret is not spending more time with her, not getting to know her better.
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But I can fix that, I think, over the next 40 years.
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So I have a million questions for you just based on this two-minute exchange.
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But can we just go back to the beginning, if you don't mind just summarizing your life?
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So already I know you had an unusual childhood.
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It's on the Mississippi River, hometown of John Deere Tractors.
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We have our own pizza styles called Quad City Style Pizza.
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Okay, so it's a barley malt crust, which is the number one most different thing about it.
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And it gives it more caramelization, so it's a little bit, I don't know, it's a complex flavor.
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So if you like crust, you get the corner pieces.
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If you don't like crust, you get the middle pieces because they're thinner.
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You know, I like all different types of pizzas.
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I don't like sweet pizza sauce for some reason.
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But it's got red pepper in it, so it's a little bit spicy.
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The sausage is actually the most important thing that we have.
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The thing that makes it most unique is it's a fennel sausage.
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So if you don't like spicy food, you wouldn't like it.
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So it gives it a steamed effect instead of a fried effect.
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It's like I've never heard pizza described so precisely or lovingly.
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And I am not a believer in there being just one pizza place or one pizza that is better than everything else.
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There are all these different types of pizza flavors.
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there's New York style, there's St. Louis, Chicago. There's two types of Chicago-style
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pizza. There's a tavern style. That's also cut into strips, but it's a thinner crust. And then
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there's obviously the Lou Malnati types, which is my favorite Chicago-style pizza. But there's
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Neapolitan pizza. I know a lot about pizza. It's one of my passions.
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It's interesting. I've eaten a lot of pizza, more than my share, but I don't know as much,
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so I need to bone up. But your family owned a pizza place.
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Yeah. And that was where all of us kids started working. We started working. I started working at 10. 1996 is when we opened. I was the head dishwasher.
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St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. And there's an interesting story about my dad in this in that it's called St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. Giuseppe is Joseph in Italian. And St. Joseph is the patron saint of our family. He's the foster father of Jesus, right?
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He's an amazing, he's the greatest non-divine figure that ever existed, I would say, besides Virgin Mary, obviously.
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But my dad started this pizza place to make more money, to provide for the family.
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I think they had just had number five at the time, which, you know, when you become a father, you really feel the economic pressures and the stress.
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But before he opened the pizza restaurant, he was an insurance salesman.
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And they didn't really have to sell crack that much.
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They basically just said, you know, he smoked pot, right?
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But he's leaving a liquor store and the crack dealer said, hey, you guys smoke weed.
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And they're like, yeah, thinking he's going to sell weed.
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And crack is obviously one of the worst substances you can get addicted to.
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Only 5% of people that get addicted to crack end up ever getting clean.
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And so my dad developed a crack addiction at the height of the crack epidemic, and he
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was able to keep it at bay or at least keep it under control.
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But as part of the filming of this, I sat down with my mom to talk about her experience
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And one thing that blew me away that I didn't remember from my childhood, really, I knew
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he had a drug addiction when I was a kid, and I knew it was a problem.
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So he's very effective, very productive, but he'd keep going out and drinking and he wouldn't come home until the third night.
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It really made me think about how these corporations in America, like my mom noticed when he wasn't home for three nights, but Prudential Insurance didn't care.
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And they probably were okay with him smoking crack because it probably made him more effective and efficient.
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And so I've had this revelation over the last few years that the government's bad, now it's corrupted, but also the industries are bad.
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The industries will chew you up and spit you out.
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And the irony is that there's this false notion of a work-life balance.
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And it's meant, the entire framing of the work-life balance is meant to go to war with life, right?
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It is a false dichotomy set up by industries and corporations so that you have to make a choice between your work and your private life.
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We'll let you have some paternity leave, you know, but you got to come back to work and produce value for the company.
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And it is a way that they have monopolized our actual lives.
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And in my opinion, based on the experience with my dad,
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his life turned around when he integrated his work and his life.
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When the pizza shop came around, he was working with his sons.
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That was the center of our life, was the pizza shop.
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So the breaking point was when my mom was pregnant with number four, right?
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He's the one that runs the pizza restaurants now.
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But she filed for divorce when she was pregnant with number four after another three-day bender.
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And there was something really beautiful in all of this that happened, which is, if you go back, I mentioned...
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I quit drinking during my wife's fourth pregnancy.
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Well, there's something transformational about becoming a father.
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The slower among us take a few kids to figure it out.
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So we thought, you know, that's where you should go and get a device.
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My grandmother finds out that my mom's divorcing him.
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She calls my mom and confronts her, which is interesting, right?
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Because this is a woman who absolutely participated in the no-fault divorce culture.
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And she sat down with my dad and said, I just want you to know, I'll always love you, always
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support you, but I never would have divorced your father if he asked me not to.
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And that was the moment where my dad called my mom and said, I don't want to get divorced.
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And I think at a deep level, he knew that his problems weren't just because he was a
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He was filling a major hole in his heart from his parents' divorce.
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And so, I'm actually grateful that he developed that crack addiction.
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He chose to break the cycle and the dysfunction and the chaos that result from breaking up families.
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And you can trust a man who's had to face that about himself.
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You have to admit, you know, when you go through these Narcotics Anonymous programs or any
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anonymous programs, you have to say, I'm helpless against this.
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You have to go and apologize to everyone that you cause damage to.
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And the people that really take it seriously and go through it end up absolutely transforming
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Well, that's like the humiliating a man can break him or make him.
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I mean, Jesus humiliates Peter right at the end.
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And then builds the church on him because he's been humiliated.
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I mean, I feel like those are the people I trust.
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The people that reflect on their own behavior and activity.
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Rather than the people that blame everyone else
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But they blame everyone else for their problems.
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unless you've been in these anonymous programs.
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And my mom told this story about how her first meeting,
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she comes in and there's all these experienced women
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And she's like, I just want to get my husband clean.
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I'm willing to do whatever I have to do to get him clean.
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oh, that's very cute that you think you can change your husband.
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He's not going to get clean unless he wants to get clean.
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it was a major life lesson that you're better off
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doing self-reflection about where you come short.
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Just, you know, take the plank out of your own eye.
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What's interesting, though, is that for a man with four kids to admit that he's addicted to crack,
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I do think for most men that kind of breaks them at that point.
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They can't sort of pick up the mantle of father head of household again.
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But your dad goes on to be successful and have six more kids.
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And they wouldn't have been able to pick it up, even
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or anything like that, because it was on the outside
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And the thing that was beautiful about it was I went out, I have a great organization,
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a great chairman and a great president at the time, and they let me go take care of
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So I'm out there and I'm with all my siblings and, you know, you just want to get out of
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the house and clean your head, you know, from everything that's going on.
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So I took him all to Target and we're just getting snacks and stuff.
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And I tell him, like, you know, you guys should just be really grateful that he he's
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even alive now because he had a real bad drug addiction. And my younger siblings, and these
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are numbers five, six, seven, and eight. And they're like, what are you talking about? I'm
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like, well, that was addicted to crack. They had no clue because he had transformed his life
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so much. And the thing is, he was a public figure, right? So he's a member of Congress.
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I started speaking about his crack addiction as a way to bring people over. And he gave me
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permission on his deathbed to talk about it at the funeral. And the political reporters from back
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home were astounded. And there's actually a really interesting article where they're trying to call
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BS on me saying that he had a crack addiction because they had never heard of anything like
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this about him. But that's how much fatherhood and faith transformed his life. My siblings didn't
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even know about it. I mean, I knew there would be times, I have very vague memories of my mom
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when I'm three, putting me in the back of the car and going and driving to the different bars in
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our area to try and find him. But it's very vague. My siblings have no recollections.
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My mom was pregnant as she walked down the aisle with me at my wife and I was sweating.
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Yes. Yeah. It's very beautiful. I love it. I absolutely love it.
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I actually, two of my, well, my oldest daughter, Grace, who just got engaged, it's wonderful.
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She is older than the youngest, youngest brother of mine, youngest two siblings of mine.
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So the nightmare, I think, for any child, and maybe especially the oldest son, is his father's death.
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I mean, I think it's something in the back of your head, you know, you always worry about it, or I always did.
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And he said, I just want my family and I want Jesus.
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And so we got that and we got the whole family in there.
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Praying for him, thanking, thank you God for Bobby.
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And it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't gotten clean.
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If he had stayed a crack addict and allowed the divorce to go on,
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You know, maybe he got, you know, had some other woman on the side or whatever.
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But he died with all 10 of us grateful to God for his existence
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And I mentioned earlier that St. Joseph is the patron saint of fathers and workers.
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And the story is that he's the first guy to have a happy death because he died in the arms of Jesus and Mary.
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And I can't help but get that image out of my head.
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I don't think the concept of happy death even exists in the West at this point.
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But I feel like what you're describing so unfortunately is not even comprehensible to a lot of people.
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And it's because we've lost faith, I think, in our society.
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And you've basically got a really corrupt system in America, which is on the left, you have people that just want anarchy.
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They want to put you in prison for having the wrong political beliefs.
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But on the right, you have some of that stuff, actually.
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But even worse, they're slaves to corporate America.
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They're slaves to the industries and the institutions.
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Charlie Kirk, and, uh, I got to know him a little bit, you know, there was, it's like
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Uh, Charlie didn't gamble or drink and I lost all my money on the first day.
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So I got to talk to him quite a bit, but, um, it was, there was a fascinating discussion
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where he was debating with another girl, a woman named Robbie Smith, who's one of the
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they were arguing about the lack of marriage and family formation in America. Who was to blame?
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Men or women? And Robbie was saying, it's obviously the men. They're smoking pot. They're
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watching porn. They're all distracted. They don't want to get married. I have all these good
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girlfriends that want to get married. They can't find a guy. Charlie said, no, no, no. It's the
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girl bosses. It's the women wanting to get college degrees and putting off, getting married. They
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don't want to get married. And Charlie turns to me and he says, Terry, you're the guy that works
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By the way, if women leave the workforce, then men will once again make more than women
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And then people will get married and the cycle will harden because when women make more than men, they don't get married because women don't want to marry men who make less than they do.
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That's what women self-report in survey after survey after survey.
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So when women make more than men, the marriage rate collapses.
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Duh, that's what happened in black America.
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Now it's happened in rural white America, but it's the same thing.
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In the 1950s, they institute the one-child policy and a bunch of different programs that incentivize sterilization.
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Their birth rate in 1960, I think, was 4.45 per woman.
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By 1997, they got it down to 1.53 after coercive and harsh, tyrannical policies that really hurt and killed a lot of people.
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When the Brits gave up control of Hong Kong in 1997, the same year, their fertility rate under the loving, gazing eyes of the Western world, Hong Kong's birth rate was at 1.13.
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And over that time, we have increased efficiency by 90% across our industries.
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But more of our money goes towards the existential stuff.
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We need two incomes to make it in America today.
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Why do we allow people to buy homes with two incomes?
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Why are you allowed to get a mortgage with two incomes?
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All that's done is it's jacked up the price of housing in the good school district.
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Because there's only a few good school districts in the country.
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And if the incomes have doubled, you're in a bidding war now.
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And we have sacrificed our lives for business, for industry, for efficiency.
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You know, we were talking about this in the car.
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So I think you're in a pretty good spot to describe what makes a good father.
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I think if you boil what becoming a father is and what it means, it's self-sacrifice, which is love.
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Victor Hugo, author of Les Mis, he said that you can give without loving, but you can't love without giving.
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And I think the ultimate example of what a man is, is Christ on the cross.
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right? Like, here's a guy that is literally giving up everything. And if you actually read
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the passion, he's fighting all the way up until the final moment, right? These people are kicking
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him. He's falling. He's been beaten and scorched. He's bleeding profusely. They ripped out. I mean,
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I saw the episode where you were talking about that, and it was way more impactful than the
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passion, I'll tell you that. But you look at the passion of Christ, he was fighting and struggling
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You never, I also think that fathers are merciful,
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amazing guy who does a lot of pro-family policy,
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but he told me the difference between the devil and Jesus,
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He said, you know, the devil always deviates from the law, but he shows no mercy when you
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Christ never deviates from the law, but shows infinite mercy when you apologize.
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And I think that's the rule of a father is to not stray from the law, not stray from
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the rules, but be merciful to your children, right?
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I think that there, you know, you hear horror stories about how some fathers behave, but
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I think if you're really doing it right, you're spending a lot of one-on-one time with each
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Believe it or not, even though I have eight kids, I make time for each one of them individually.
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You can do a five, 10-minute trip to 7-Eleven, get some snacks.
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You have to have that one-on-one time with your kids.
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But I would say that if you were to boil it all down, it's sacrificing yourself for your children and your wife.
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It is being merciful, and it's also making sure your kids know the rules and don't make these mistakes.
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These are the things that are the most important thing when it comes to being a father.
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Well, you often hear people compare the West, America, Europe, to Rome.
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And at the same time, you hear another set of people tell you that masculinity is the problem.
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And young people hear both of these things, and a lot of them become consumed by despair.
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But you got to fix one thing before that happens, and that's fatherhood.
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And that's why he made a new documentary on the topic.
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What the country needs isn't less masculinity, it's more.
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Steady, responsible, self-sacrificing male leadership.
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and strong families built strong nations which amount to a strong civilization.
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Fathers Want It is available right now for a limited time only on tuckercarlson.com.
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I've seen it many, many times where a father loses his job, he feels like a loser,
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and then he starts behaving like a loser, and then his wife and children are unimpressed,
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and so he becomes even less impressive and just cycles out of life.
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either literally or just falls apart with booze
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Well, I think we're seeing more and more of that today.
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You can't bring up the attacks on young men
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and how difficult it is because women have it worse.
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Name five politicians that are leading the target.
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Well, they used to say that women were discriminated,
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girls were discriminated against in schools.
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Well, of course, women dominate schools completely
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boys are falling behind, not girls. And I'm just amazed that people in D.C. won't admit that.
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It's one of the last acceptable bigotries is against men. And it's because the news,
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politicians, everywhere in our culture, the movies, we just saw Paul Ehrlich just died,
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right? I was actually in the delivery room. It was a lot of fun. Oh, actually?
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I was in the delivery room with the eighth child.
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Giving a finger to Paul Ehrlich when he passed?
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Yeah. Can you explain who Paul Ehrlich was for those who don't know?
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So Paul Ehrlich wrote this book in 1968 called The Population Bomb. And he basically said that
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the whole world was going to collapse if we didn't stop people from having kids. He was incredibly
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evil. China's one-child policies, he didn't go over and advise them, but they read his books.
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They used his course. He wanted to sterilize people forcibly. He wanted to have paid tax
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incentives for people that did sterilize themselves. He wanted to have limits on how many kids. He
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supported forcing people to get licenses before they could have children. These are crazy ideas
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that I don't know why they took off. But the irony about Paul Ehrlich is that he made all
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these predictions about devastation and chaos in the world if we didn't address the population
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bomb. None of them came true. Literally, none of his ideas came true. The only one that got close
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to coming true actually was he predicted that in 2000 the year 2000 that the uk would fall
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that's like the closest he's gotten uh the uk is falling by the way uh but not because britains
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are having too many kids no it's no it's the opposite right of course um but paul paul earlick
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was an atrocious man but one of the things that he was very passionate about was his guidance for
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Television and movies, if you depict a family, they should be small.
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How did Paul Ehrlich have the right to advise filmmakers and TV producers on what their art should be?
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They really, they bought it hook, line, and sinker.
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The idea that people are pollution is so old, it's like kind of boring if you look throughout history.
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You sacrifice your children to the gods in order to become happy and prosperous.
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They're debating about who the best order is in terms of Catholic priests.
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And the Jesuit says, well, we were founded by St. Ignatius of Leola.
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who founded us to destroy the Albigensians.
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When's the last time you've heard of an Albigensian?
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that having a baby was like the biggest sin you could commit for the Albigensians.
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I bet they were against Marlboros and SUVs too.
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But they thought the worst thing you could do is trap a pure soul into a corrupted body.
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It's why these corporations are promoting abortion and egg freezing.
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It's why states like California will take children from their parents if the parents don't affirm their gender identity.
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There is no right to take children away from their parents unless there's actual serious abuse.
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But we see these ideas everywhere, and they've taken hold.
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And you've got, obviously, Thomas Malthus, who believed that people were pollution, Paul Ehrlich.
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They've caused misery and chaos and suffering, but they've taken hold.
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All of our elite institutions, all of our elite institutions have been pushing these policies on us.
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So data centers are incompatible with green politics
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So you need all forms of electrical generation in order to power these data centers.
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It's to create something called artificial intelligence, which I'm beginning to wonder.
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I'm not against all AI, I guess, but I'm beginning to wonder if the agenda there is very different.
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I mean, it does seem like replacing thinking with the judgment of a machine.
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How is that different from what you're describing?
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It is at the heart of the entire AI industry is the belief that human beings need AI, that they need some type of overlord above them that's way smarter, that can process data.
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Tucker, that is, that's I think the worst thing.
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So Francis Bacon was another guy that we've discovered, and he basically believed, he was the father of modern science, but he basically believed that human beings could solve anything, that nature was actually meant for us to completely alter and mess with.
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I think you're with me. I think nature exists. I think it should be respected. There are rules.
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You shouldn't have sex outside of marriage. You should be open to life. You shouldn't steal.
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You shouldn't cheat. You shouldn't lie. But these guys want to change. You can't kill the innocent.
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You can't sterilize the innocent, right? They believe that they are their own gods.
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I had a Dominican priest. I had to go back to the Dominicans. When the whole sex changes for
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kids thing took off. I went to a very dark place. I just couldn't believe that it was happening.
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And I kept seeing these pictures and these stories are all horrific. So I call my friend,
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Tim, from Franciscan University. He's a Dominican priest now. And I'm lamenting all this. I can't
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believe they're sterilizing kids and they're mutilating their bodies. And he broke it down.
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He said, what we're dealing with right now with this issue is two things. One, it's very, very old.
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something that they can control and manipulate.
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yeah that's why i like bad weather because it reminds you of that
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really yes i mean it sort of doesn't matter what your ideology is if you go out naked in a snow
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storm you're gonna die because nature is more powerful than you yes that's just a fact yes
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and you can you know change your sex i guess but you can't change the need to be at 98.6 at all
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times before you die. So it's like, it's such a great reminder. I wonder though,
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as it relates to fatherhood, like the description of a good father, because fatherhood is part of
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nature, can't be that different from era to era, right? No matter what we, in the moment we're
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living in, describe as a good father, there is a kind of absolute standard for good fatherhood.
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There has to be because there is in the natural world.
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A good father has always provided for his family.
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That's like, you have to procreate to become a father.
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You know, there's a lot of new studies that have been coming out over the last 10 years
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about fatherhood and how it impacts and shapes the individual
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I think it was in Reason Magazine of all places,
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they wrote about how fathers are actually the ones
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And how they explained it was that fathers and men
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and we're always thinking about what we need to do for our lives.
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And so like when your kid breaks your $400 drill,
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you're going down and lecturing them and saying,
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you know how hard I had to work for that $400 drill.
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I can't believe you used it without my permission.
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Whereas like the moms are always gonna be like,
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not to be suicidal over breaking a drill, right?
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It's so obvious. Women are more empathetic, of course, or we think of them that way. But societies in which there are very few fathers, matriarchal societies are far less empathetic, far less empathetic than patriarchal societies. And you know that because they're like massively high crime rates in all societies run by women. And those are way less empathetic societies. Like that's the proof.
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Yes. And, you know, I think largely I have a friend that we lament women because they're hard to understand, they're complicated. And he tells this funny joke. He said, you know what the difference between complex and complicated is? And complex, a jet engine is complex. There's all these intricate parts that all logically make sense and then work together, but it's complex.
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They're hard to understand, especially if you're a guy.
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And I think that one of the ways that our elites have really screwed us over
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is convincing women that having a career, having a good job is the basis of a good life
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That think that a career is the most important thing for a good life?
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You've met a woman who believes that, who believes a career working at the bank, working at the AI startup.
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They'll at least say the politically smart thing.
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It's actually preferable to having a husband who loves you, takes care of you, and provides you children.
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I don't think there's a woman alive who actually believes that.
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There's a lot of lies in our society, and people will say the lies.
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Well, the lies we tell ourselves are the most powerful, aren't they?
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And women today, I think they all know deep down, they really would do better with a husband.
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They really would be happier with a kid, right?
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I think, you know, biologically, with a husband that could provide, why do you want to go
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Why do you want to go help Bill Gates make more money?
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Why do you want to help all these super wealthy white billionaires make more money?
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So you can be, quote, independent as you become totally dependent on a company that has no
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yes exactly i'm so independent i work at jp morgan i'm so independent yes but tucker the
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it's so sad because these women are missing out no i don't you know i don't know why i'm laughing
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i'm laughing at the irony because everything is irony but um yeah no it's the tragedy of america
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really and you know the the egg freezing and the abortion tourism it's so evil because these women
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And my dad died with 10 of us surrounding him.
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I don't think they tell you that at your orientation in investment banking, though, do they?
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I don't think there's any encouragement to think through to the end.
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In an assisted living community where there's some foreign-born nurse who doesn't know my name, that's the end?
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That is the end, actually, for a lot of people.
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whether you're talking about war or your own life.
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Like, what does this look like in the final stage?
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Well, I think if you go back to the AI situation,
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a lot of speculation that AI is going to eliminate
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But let's imagine that scenario, though, where you don't have to work, where you are living in heaven.
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Well, I don't have to imagine how it works because I grew up in a trust fund world.
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And it works where, you know, you become an alcoholic, sleep with the au pair, you're reviled by your children, then you shoot yourself.
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And then on the bottom end, the welfare world, which is the mirror image of the trust fund world, it's the same.
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it's true despair because a man needs work for meaning in his life he protects and provides
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that's where his sense of himself comes that's his duty and if he doesn't achieve it he hates
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himself so like a world without work is hell it's not it's not advisable i've seen it seeking it
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but the um the the people that put their careers first and that you know are going along with this
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lie because like look they might not believe it but they're doing it right and they're living it
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And what they're missing out on, the work is the what, right?
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You get a job and you work hard at it so that you can provide for your family.
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The idea that you have a job so that you can build a legacy for yourself is not right, not correct.
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No one will remember you, especially the company you work for.
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if you're a woman that is planning to never get married,
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they are going to immediately start preparing to replace you.
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an advanced college degree, or I need to get a job.
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I need to put everything in my life ahead of my family.
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Yeah, I mean, first of all, you work so your wife will be proud of you.
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No, I mean, that's like, this is actually nature.
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And I just feel like the program that we have sold to young people in our country is so unnatural and like bizarre and would make no sense to any so-called backward country.
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And I spent a lot of time in backward countries
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Like you can't, I mean, we're fighting gravity here, kind of.
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No, but I mean, the lies that we're telling ourselves
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or that we were prioritizing putting women in the workforce over family.
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I mean, I was in high school from 2001 to 2005,
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And maybe it was the part of the country I grew up in.
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Maybe the Quad Cities is just better than all these major cities
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But family was very much the center of everyone's life.
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And you learn that from talking to people at the pizza shop.
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But one thing, one big change that I've noticed in our society is public parks.
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Public parks are interesting because they're in major cities and space is finite.
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So when you decide to put an area up as a public park, you're basically telling people what your top priorities are.
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When we had the massive expansion of parks throughout our country over the last century, up until recently, they were all kids' parks.
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When you say, I'm going to go to the park, you immediately envision playgrounds and swings and merry-go-rounds, all of that.
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But today, if you go to the inner cities, dog parks are outranking kid parks.
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I went to a dog park, and I talked to some of the people there.
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And one girl, I asked her, you know, how many dogs she has.
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He said, I asked him if he was ever planning to get married and having kids.
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He said, well, I've got all these international weddings I have to go to.
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We're directing all of these resources to dog runs and dog parks and not kid parks.
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In Hong Kong, it's actually a bit worse in a way.
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They're low-impact exercise machines like hip twisters and all of that.
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Their birth rate is like under, I think it's under 1.09 or something.
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But these people either direct the money and the resources towards dogs or the elderly.
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If you look at federal spending on welfare and entitlements, it's five to one welfare benefits going to people 65 and up.
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We need to start reversing that back to young people and families to get them a more stable life.
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We're telling the world and our citizens what our priorities are every time we build a dog park.
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I got to think, so your breakdown of federal spending, I do think it's an indictment of a specific generation.
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I'm not going to name them boomers, but I think that generation and the last year, it was 1964, the year after the Kennedy assassination.
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So, once that generation, which has completely destroyed America, not all of them, but most, don't you think there will be change?
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You know, these boomers have really screwed up our country and they really hurt young people.
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The boomers are the most selfish generation ever.
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If World War II was such a massive success, how did it give rise to that generation?
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They came back from the war and had those people.
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So, like, I'm not, again, you know, I'm totally very anti-Nazi, want to be clear.
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But, like, if that's the founding myth of our country, that winning that war was such a win, then how did they produce the baby boomers?
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There's a lot of reasons, but there's something really heavy going on there.
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Like, how could you wreck it all with one generation?
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I think that they, I think that the greatest generation, the World War II generation, they went through the Depression.
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And I think that they kind of spoiled their children.
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And he told the story of King David and one of his sons.
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But this is what we're experiencing with the boomers, is they are Absalom.
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You know, my great-grandmother, it helps being from a big family because the eldest, I got
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And the stories I would hear from her, I was always grateful, right?
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I think that Greatest Generation, at least for me, instilled gratitude.
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And I don't know why it didn't translate to their children because their children are only entitled.
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And there's, and you said it earlier, there's a lot of good ones out there.
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But the majority, I think, are very self-centered.
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They were the generation that gave us all of this nonsense.
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There are so many, we give so much more resources.
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you know, in the big, beautiful bill, I liked most of it. They give $6,000 checks to senior
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citizens. They don't need money. They have all the money. They have all the homes. They're not
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selling them. It costs $750,000 to get a townhome in DC. Townhomes are for families. They're for
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new families, actually. And they're supposed to be affordable. But now they're $750,000 because
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the boomers aren't selling their multiple homes. In California, there's this interesting dynamic
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where there was a lawsuit that was challenging whether or not you could do property tax freezes
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for senior citizens. They were arguing, the people that were challenging it were saying,
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this is age discrimination. You can't allow them, give them a different set of rules than
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the rest of us. And the courts obviously ruled in favor of the boomers because the judges are
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all boomers. But it's insane that we are freezing property taxes for these boomers who got their
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homes for eight raspberries and a blueberry and a horse. They've had so much appreciation
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of the value of their properties. It's skyrocketed. Why do they get tax relief when working?
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The tax burden and the onus is all on young families. And we need to start reversing this.
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If we don't start reversing this, young people are not going to get married.
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Well, they're also going to get really, really dark politics.
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And I interviewed Nick Fuentes, who I disagree with on a lot, earlier this year and was attacked for it, whatever.
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But one of the main reasons I wanted to talk to him was like, this guy's super popular.
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This is a totally different kind of politics, completely different kind of politics than anything I've covered at 56.
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And one of the things I learned from the experience was younger people have totally different politics.
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And by my standards as a middle-aged person, they're pretty radical.
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Well, it happened by taking away all their opportunity and then ignoring them when they complained about it.
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And by the way, my sense is that Nick Fuentes will be considered pretty moderate very soon.
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So like, if you want a stable, moderate country,
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you have to take care of people and give them opportunity, right?
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There are massive consequences for behaving this way, I think.
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you want people that are serious about solutions to problems
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ballast in a ship. Yes. It keeps it steady. Yes. Like I'm a dad, I've got kids. Can't get too
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crazy because I've got children. I mean, that's just like a baseline impulse, don't you think,
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in fathers? Yes. These kids are being radicalized because they don't, most of them are products of
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the divorce generation. So you have like compounding dysfunction there. Not only did
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their parents divorced, but their parents' parents divorced. And so I went into my marriage
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under the belief that this is the most sacred of all the agreements I'm ever going to sign in my
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life. I can sign contracts with corporations. I can sign business deals. But this is the one I
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can never break. It has to come before everything else. But this whole no-fault divorce situation
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basically said, no, your marriage is actually the least important of all the agreements.
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But the only thing that the only agreement you can't break in modern America is paying your credit card interest.
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And I suggest because I'm totally for not paying your credit card interest.
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And I've suggested that before to conservatives.
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Just like, I don't put the bank out of business.
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And they looked at me like I was a freak, which and that may be freaky.
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I'm not actually in real life suggesting that, though.
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But like the same people are like, yeah, well, it didn't work out.
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they got divorced. So that just tells you where the priorities are. It's immoral to stiff a bank,
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but it's okay to stiff your wife. Like, how does that work? What are those values?
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Well, it's obviously predatory. It's obviously, you know, not treating the human person
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as a child of God, right? They're treating us like hogs in a machine. That's what the elites
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and all the industries view us as, is pieces to play on the field that can make our products and
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do our services, they don't look at you as a dad. They don't look at you as a husband.
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They want you back in the workforce for maximum efficiency. And by the way,
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you're reading all about these artificial wombs and egg freezing and IVF and all of that stuff.
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I don't judge or attack anyone that's gone through IVF, except if you buy a baby
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as a gay couple or something. I think that's really messed up.
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I think that makes you a conservative leader if you do that.
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it makes you yeah you get a podcast you get to yell at other people talk about conservatism
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the trump coalition yeah but the no those are no i know it's sorry sorry sorry but it's it's
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the commodification of the human person and that is ultimate you know you i love your actual i i
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kind of love it i'm not endorsing it specifically i need to do more research into it but not paying
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your credit cards sounds like a great way to get these you know credit card companies to stop
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preying on well how about but my idea was like let's have a hey let's not pay our credit card
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party where that's the that's the only like bullet point on the agenda is we all agree not to pay
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our credit and just to negotiate terms like because trump is always bragging about how well
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you know if you take a big enough loan from a bank they have to negotiate with you like you're
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in charge because they're exposed because it's just too much money which i get i'm not criticizing
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it but like why not create a union to do the same for the entire public like stop sending credit
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card solicitations to kids stop charging 20 interest like that should be illegal that's
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That's ridiculous. The mafia used to go to jail and to Rico for that, but it's okay for Citibank?
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That's all I said. And it was like, what? What? And I was like, oh, I found the tender spot.
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Well, this is what really annoys me about Republicans. And they're so corporate-centered.
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They're so free market-centered. When Trump mandated that credit card companies couldn't
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go over 10%, all these libertarian right-wing think tanks started criticizing him as an
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enemy of the free market. If that's an enemy of the free market, then consider me one,
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right? Because they're taking advantage of poor people. Rich people don't really use credit cards.
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But the poor people are the ones that pay the interest. And that's why-
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We still have payday loans, dude. I mean, I know. And the only kind of capitalism they seem to
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really endorse is like sending tax dollars to weapons companies. And I'm like, I'm a wuss or
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something if I'm not for that or a peacenik, which I'm not, obviously. I'm like, yeah. Anyway.
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Yeah. Don't even get me going, Terry. Okay. So let me just, let me end on this because a more
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positive note. And it's about your dad and because you clearly consider him a great father and you
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become a father of eight, which is just amazing. God bless you. Thank you. What did you, trite
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question, but I think you probably have a real answer. What did you learn from him? Like as
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you go about the business of raising eight children.
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I think about him every time I hold a new baby.
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If you're the dad, one, you got to be in the delivery room
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he always was paranoid that one of us kids was a drug addict.
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You get tips when you clean out the tables and all that.
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I'll never forget my dad was like topping it down
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Because he was thinking, well, I did crack, so it's not impossible.
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I found a rolled up bill in one of my kids' pockets.
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I think one of the benefits of having a crack addict as a father, like people hear that
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and they're like, oh my gosh, that must have been so terrible.
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And it prepared me for the world we live in today, which is like Gen Zers are all being
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raised by these women on amphetamines and SSRIs and Xanax and all of that. So, it helps me relate
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to them and actually connect with them to know what they're going through. And it helps me speak
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to them. Do you think they have a sense that their parents are on drugs, prescription drugs?
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I don't think the parents hide it. I mean, it's hard to hide. These women, it's like a whole thing.
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They compete. They brag about the drugs that they're on, the pharmaceuticals.
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concept known as the work-life balance is they've monopolized our lives and taken over where
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we need pharmaceutical drugs just to exist and be happy do you feel like change is coming
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some type of change i don't know if it's going to be good uh but it seems pretty dark it seems
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very dark right now um you know 40 of gen zers say they don't want to get married 43 say they
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don't want to have kids. That's insane. That is not a sign for hope. Now, I do think, you know,
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they have those other charts where I think there is some hope, which show that liberals and
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progressives and, you know, these types, they're not having kids, but the Christians are. I think
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that's a very good sign for our country. I just don't know if it's in time. I hope it is. I think
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if times are going to get bad, though, you want to have kids, right? I think one thing that we've
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really gotten wrong. That's your team, man. That's it. That's what matters. Christianity
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is what we're here for, right? If God actually exists, then he's the full story. If you actually
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believe in God, you can't not believe that he's the main character. He is the main character and
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we live by his rules. But if times are going to get bad, you want to have kids. The Bible's very
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clear. Children are a blessing from the Lord, right? They're a blessing from the Lord. Blessed
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is a man whose quiver is full. He will not be left in shame as his enemy is at the gates.
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We need more kids. So, I mean, we're going to keep going. We're open to whatever God sends us
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because I don't think I have a right to tell God no, right? If my wife gets pregnant,
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I think there was a divine hand in that. And he's saying we need, you know, there's an old
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proverb. I forget who said it, but it's, you know, every new baby born is a sign from God
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of sitting at the head of a table of your descendants.
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Well, I think that the issue is the single life,
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But people will go 40, 50 years smoking pot every day.
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That's what you want? To not remember or something? Why wouldn't you want to sit at a table with your descendants? I mean, that's just like...
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Well, the single life is just as innocuous. It doesn't seem threatening. You're told by every corner of our society, by the elites, that being single and child-free is actually prosperity, is actually human flourishing.
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They've been manipulated into serving the state