Glenn Beck: The Importance of Learning Through Failure, God’s Plan For You, and Escaping Cable News
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1 hour and 20 minutes
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Summary
Glenn Beck is a man of many talents, but one thing he has in common with all of them is that he is a master at explaining things that most of us don t have an idea how to explain. He is a genius at explaining the truth, and I think you'll agree that he's one of the most creative people I've ever met in my life, and that's a rare quality in a creative person. And if you're uncomfortable with people telling the truth or thinking for yourself, that's because creativity requires, above all else, thinking for your own muse, feeling your own instincts, and believing them. That's what creativity is, and, of course, it's dying in this country because it's such a threat to the lies. Glenn Beck is the only creative, truly creative person in the building, and if you don't know what he's going to do, you can't help but be scared that he might just tell the truth. And that's why they hate him so much, because he's not afraid of telling the Truth. that's what they hate Trump, by the way. And if they're afraid of him because he might tell the Truth, then they don't have a clue about what he might do next, they're not going to be able to do anything about it, and they don t know what to do about it. and they're worried about him because they're scared he might be creative, which is what makes him terrifying. of them, because they think he's a creative, not just good, but dangerous, which makes him dangerous, and dangerous, so they can't tell them what they might do and that makes them think they might be wrong about him or that he s going to tell them the truth about them . And that s why they fear him, right? because they can t help him, and he s good at it he s not just the truth and they re not they re afraid he s , they re not , and they think the truth is so he s just right ? it s just like them? and what they think they a is better than them or which means than them ? that s not that they , right or they is not ? And if
Transcript
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I'm so spun up, I fear what will happen if I keep going.
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So I want to pause now and introduce my friend, Glenn Beck.
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And I want to just actually introduce him because I've known Glenn Beck for a long time
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and we worked at two, at least two, I've been fired a lot,
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but I know that we worked at at least two cable news channels over the years.
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And I was saying to one of my producers this morning who worked in cable news for a long time
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who wouldn't understand, I said, I was in at least two executive meetings at CNN and Fox News,
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physically present, and listened to executives express concern and fear about Glenn Beck.
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Glenn Beck is like the single nicest person, well, you all know him apparently.
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He's like the single nicest, most decent person ever, like ever.
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And he was also at the highest ratings. He always had the highest ratings.
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He was the most popular at both those channels when I worked there.
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And so what were they concerned about? Why would that bother you?
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The guy is like killing it. He's the biggest guy here and he's the nicest person in the building.
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He's always like buying iPhones for his staff, you know, he's just really nice.
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What they feared about Glenn Beck was he was the only creative, truly creative person in the building.
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Now you would think that's got to be pretty common in a business like television.
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Aren't they all creative? Oh, no, just the opposite.
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Because creativity requires, above all, thinking for yourself, following your own muse,
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feeling your own instincts and believing them, seeing something and deciding I'm going to make that real,
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bringing something from within you and putting it into physical form.
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And, of course, it's dying in this country because it's such a threat to the lies.
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And if you're uncomfortable with people telling the truth,
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I mean, this is why they hate Trump, by the way.
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And Glenn Beck, I think, is the most creative person I've ever met in my life.
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Glenn Beck, after writing books and making movies and hosting shows,
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now he's decided, well, I'm going to become a painter.
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I have all these paintings inside me, and he's good at it.
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He's just a remarkable human being, a great explainer, and a really decent man.
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And so with that, ladies and gentlemen, Glenn Beck.
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That was, I hope you took that with the love that it was men.
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And a really, whatever that membrane is that's in most of us that prevents us from believing the truth,
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believing our own instincts, and then articulating them, you are lacking that.
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Because you spend, I spent 35 years of my life drinking my life away.
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Because I really thought all of the things that, you know, society tells you.
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And every single one of us have something that we've done in our life that we think, oh, if they only knew, then they'd all hate me.
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But honestly, when you are broken down and you have nothing left, you become the most powerful person in the world.
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Because everybody is afraid because you're not.
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I was sitting, I don't know if I've, I think I might have told this story, this might get me in trouble.
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But I remember sitting in Roger Ailes' office and he had called me in.
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And I knew, you know this game, we're the only two survivors of Fox News.
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So great to see somebody just making them sweat.
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But I said, you know, you know that the way that place used to be, they investigated.
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And everybody I ever worked with at Fox always said, oh, I owe Roger Ailes.
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When I was sitting in my interview, there was a woman, she was in PR, that sat across the table from me and not once looked me in the eye.
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It was my, you know, welcome to the company thing.
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And sitting next to me was my business partner.
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So, and you'd be like, you'd be talking to her and her eyes would be moving.
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And she said, the last thing she said to me was, you know, a lot of people make mistakes.
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And she said, if something happens, don't call anyone.
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And that's the only time she looked at me, and she slid her card across the table, and she said, you'd be amazed at what we can make go away.
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And so when I got on, and they were all so afraid, because, you know, there was nothing worse.
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We would spend all day writing a script, and three minutes before we'd go on, I'd say, turn off the prompters.
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And I'm like, I don't know, but I'm not doing that.
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But the only reason why most times we did it is because they wanted to view every single word beforehand, okay?
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They were going through my garbage and investigating me.
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I just, I know the firm that had investigated me before.
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And my wife and I, because I'm an alcoholic, and I mean, I've said all the worst stuff.
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You know, a lot of people don't like the power that you're accumulating.
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And a lot of people would like to take you down.
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And he had them down, and he picks them up, and he puts them on his desk.
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He's going to throw me into a tank of sharks soon.
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And he said, a lot of people are investigating you.
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Then he said, you know, I've met your wife now.
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And I pulled my chair up right at the edge of his desk, and I said, yes.
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It's always a shame when someone hurts a woman like that.
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Meaning, somehow or another, he had information that I was cheating on my wife.
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And I said, I looked him dead in the eye, and I said, I know.
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And then, like third graders, we had a stare down.
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I was like, I'm not looking away, because I know the person that looks away is the liar.
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So what you're saying, I think, is the media is a pretty wholesome business.
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I always encourage my daughters to go into television.
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I thought this of Russell, too, but growing up in Southern California in the 70s,
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I always distrusted people who sat Indian-style barefoot.
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And they'd lecture about baby harp seals and stuff.
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And now I've decided I'm kind of for the baby harp seals, and I like that.
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So last night, I'm reading my scriptures because I'm doing a show on what's happening in Europe.
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So I'm reading my scriptures because I'm doing a show in a couple of weeks on what's happening in Europe,
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And so for the last few nights, I've been just looking at all this stuff and reading all this stuff,
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So I went to the scriptures, and I'm going to read scriptures.
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And as soon as I started reading, you came to mind.
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But we had a conversation beforehand, and that was from a prompting that I got last night.
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And immediately following that, I had an overwhelming feeling, and I've had it all day.
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I've watched you hug more people in the last five hours.
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Could we invite the Spirit and just say a quick prayer?
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We thank you for all of the things that he has already exposed and done.
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We ask for your blessings on him and on our conversation tonight, that something happens tonight, whether it's on stage or off stage.
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We ask that your will be done as we are your servants, and we are grateful to serve at this time.
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I mean, and I do want to ask you what's happening in Europe, because I, too, have the sense that it's important here.
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So, that's not the answer I was looking for, Glenn.
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This is the weirdest thing that happened in my life.
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I sat with some biblical scholars, some real scholars, and we were talking about, they were teaching me about the end times.
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And the whole time, I'm like, this sounds familiar.
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And we got to the end, and we were all crying, because it could be, everybody always says this, you know, the apostles said this, and they were wrong.
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Enough of the signs are here that it could happen quickly.
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And we stood there with each other, and we were all kind of blubbering.
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And after that, somebody said, so what do we do?
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But, I strangely feel so good, because I know the ending.
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The apostles said it was coming in their lifetime.
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What he was saying about evil, you can feel it.
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But I have to tell you, I live in a small, small 450 people town in Idaho.
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But every time, every Sunday, I've been up there all summer.
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And every Sunday I go to church, somebody gets up on the stand and says,
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They're working with their hands in the soil, which connects you to everything.
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And you don't have to talk about transgenderism because it's not happening in the animal kingdom.
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I don't see the bull out there going, I'm going to put some lipstick on.
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And so, it's just rooted in truth and service to one another.
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When you are a farmer, you know the best farmer in the world could be living next to you.
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You want to be there for him, not only because he's your neighbor, but because you know that's going to happen to you at some point.
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You can be the best farmer and then it's up to God.
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Everybody, when we moved off the farms and we started living in big cities, it was over.
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I went to, I was in New York City working at Fox.
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And I realized, I can only, walking in the streets of New York at night, I can only see things made by man.
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When you go out and you're in black and you can see the Milky Way, the colors of the Milky Way, you live in a place where you have to recognize this and you're seeing the colors of the Milky Way.
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You immediately say, because everybody does it, we are so small.
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I almost get the feeling I'm not the center of the universe.
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So, because we, I mean, it says that we're not going to know when the end comes.
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But I wonder, like, why would we be afraid of that?
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Well, that's the point of the book of Revelation.
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He's telling you, you're not going to know the hour.
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But at the same time, let's not dismiss that he says, but look for these things.
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Because these things will happen and you will know the hour is nearing.
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So what are, I mean, let's, let's, let's go through them.
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What, what are you noticing that makes you think this has been foretold?
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I don't know if he still is, but he was a diehard atheist when we first met each other.
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He was on my show about two years ago and I said, James, I'm interested to hear from you as an atheist.
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How would you describe what is happening to people?
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And the message of you're nobody, you'll never make it, you can't succeed without me, everything is bad, everything your great, great, great, great grandfather might have done or just observed and had no role in it makes you unforgivable.
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And I said, now, hang on, do you mean evil the way I mean evil?
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If you don't, don't do this, but if you go on X and you're looking for things like what I'm looking for in Europe,
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you will see things that you'll say to yourself, what the hell?
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A total, the destruction of women alone is awesome in its evilness.
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I saw a video of people in Europe, these three guys.
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And some woman does, I don't know what she did, but they throw her down to the ground and they just start kicking her.
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And I thought to myself, dude with the camera, do something.
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When are we going to stand up and say, that's my wife.
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And if it's not my daughter, she could be my daughter.
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I mean, I feel that so strongly as the father of daughters and as a man who loves women genuinely.
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I would be flattered if you did, but I know you well.
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But I wonder if that's not inevitable in a society that tells us there's no difference between men and women.
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If there's no difference between men and women, somebody annoys me.
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It's totally within bounds to punch him in the face.
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To punch a woman in the face is absolutely unacceptable.
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And every normal person, every normal man was raised that way.
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But if we're being told there's no difference between men and women, basically what we're saying is it's a license to treat women the way you would treat a man.
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Because I believe what you said earlier is absolutely right.
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It's so great because I've decided that the hallmark of this moment is not lying.
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So if you've got kids, all kids lie, of course.
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And you catch a kid lying, but it's always one or two degrees off from the truth.
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What we're seeing now is people telling the exact opposite, the inverse of the truth.
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Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil.
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But this came to mind because here you have Glenn Beck, this famous, dangerous, right-wing,
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Raising a crowd to its feet in common defense of the idea that you shouldn't hit women.
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And the reason that women are being hit is because the people who claim to defend women
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have erased the entire category of women, and along with it, any respect you might have for women.
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In other words, the defenders of women are their sworn enemies.
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And the people they tell you don't like women are the only ones defending them.
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Can I tell you, I was in Washington, D.C., and I was there last week.
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And I was like, oh, come on, why were you there?
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It was a march for children, and it was mainly moms and dads that are there, and they're just, enough is enough.
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And in the, about halfway through the crowd, there were three rows of people wearing T-shirts that said,
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And somebody had, there was some, you know, scrapple from some religious person that was like,
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And I'm like, so, unfortunately for that individual, I spoke next.
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I don't think the Lord is checking what church you go to.
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I don't think he's looking for your, you know, church card punched every Sunday.
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At this point, he is looking for his children who know the difference between right and wrong
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I sit with evangelicals and I love evangelicals.
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I love going to other people's churches because I think it's funny because we're all arguing and
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I'm sitting in the back and I'm like, you have no idea.
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Wait, just so I can set the scene in my mind, do you sneak into other people's churches on Sunday?
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No, and I, you know, sometimes I'm invited to go speak and I love it.
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But I'm just thinking that God might be going, you know, I'm coming down there soon.
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Kind of like Dad used to say, you know, if I have to come up these stairs and you're not in bed,
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And you all better be standing together and fighting against evil.
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So do you feel, since you more than anybody in secular media,
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I think have been hitting these themes way before anybody I knew would dare use the word God on television.
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Glenn, we have an awful lot of old people that watch this show.
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And you're making them feel guilty because it hurts to get on their knees.
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And he said, and another thing, this is a quote.
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He doesn't want to hear from all of these people.
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I looked at him, and I thought he was joking at first, and he didn't crack a smile.
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And I said, I don't think you understand how that works.
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Do you realize how many times you've said the word God since we last talked?
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Does anybody remember the chalkboard that I said?
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So remember the ones that I got a lot of heat for, and in my prayers I heard, fall on
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The communists, the anarchists, the socialists, and I think the globalists will all work
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together to destroy Israel, destabilize the Middle East and Europe, and it will spread
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I mean, it was so clear, but that's happening right now.
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So when I said all of those things, I'm thinking to myself, because I prayed every night, give
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And at the same time, you know, this is a joke.
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When I was at CNN, I was, my last year there, you know, they come out with, AP comes out
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That Christmas, I'm sitting with my family, and I get a text.
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It was me tied with the Pope and Nelson Mandela.
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And I looked at my kids, and I said, this is how much trouble the world is in.
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And I told my kids, they were like, Dad, that's a, you know, and I said, it's not true.
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A year after, I'm the most hated man in America.
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I've never made it with the Pope and Nelson Mandela.
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And when I was the most hated, I said to my children, remember that list a year ago?
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This is all just, you know, somebody said recently, and I love this, if you have a problem with me, if you have a problem with something that I said, and it really offended you, I honestly probably didn't mean to offend you.
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And if you don't have my phone number, you don't know me well enough to judge me.
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I heard someone say today, if you don't respect someone enough to take his advice, you should ignore his criticism.
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We should go into the bumper sticker business, man.
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Today is the first day of the rest of your life.
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What's funny is when you were saying those things on television, like everyone else in cable news was talking about, like, Natalie Holloway.
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And I think that's one of the reasons that everyone was terrified of you.
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They're like, we don't talk about things of eternal significance on cable television.
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And I think that just, I think that really scared them.
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How many times have you done an interview with somebody who, halfway through the interview, you just notice they're shark eyes.
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And you're like, you're not even listening to me.
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You are a powerful interviewer that people trust.
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You have an agenda, and you're not even listening.
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Like, our entire leadership class is just high as hell.
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They're so medicated, and you have to ask what percentage of our leaders are on a mind-altering drug, and I would say it's an overwhelming majority.
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For instance, tell me, has anybody left a bag of cocaine at the White House?
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I look at Kamala Harris, and as someone who grew up in a neighborhood with a lot of divorced rich ladies in Southern California, I just know that look, which is like, I can't even hear you, man.
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I heard a friend of mine say, she's America's wine mom.
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If you've ever voted for a candidate, voted someone off an island, left work early to go to the polls, or lied about going to the polls so you could leave work early, that's good enough.
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That means ordering delicious and fresh chicken souvlaki with tzatziki from Jimmy the Greek.
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Are there leaders now in this country who are paying attention, who understand the stakes, who know what's going on, who you think can lead us out of,
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what by, you know, any definition is a low and perilous moment?
00:43:22.180
So, I have to tell you, I was walking in, and I completely understood it, because I'm aware of politics here, and nobody in my crew was understanding.
00:43:37.820
And some women, as I walked by, they were like, no cocks, no cocks, no cocks.
00:43:44.300
But can I, okay, I don't want to get, I don't want to get controversial, but I have a sincere question, as someone who follows politics here.
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I have one friend who represents the state, who's a wonderful, wonderful man in Washington.
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That guy, that guy, they take drills into his head every night.
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He's such a normal person, with like a normal family, and a happy marriage, and he thinks about things, and he's like a normal person.
00:44:28.360
The way, quite honestly, the way the media and some leadership in this state treat Mike Lee is an abomination.
00:44:44.580
And for a people, for a people who used to really love and listen to and obey, Ezra Taft Benson, what the hell is wrong with you?
00:44:59.560
Well, I mean, Mike Lee is about as radical as I am, which is not at all radical, actually, the definition of moderate.
00:45:10.520
I believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
00:45:15.240
But here's my point, not just to defend Mike Lee, which I'm happy to do, but to ask, how did a state, filled with like the happiest families in the country, and the most normal people in the country, it's literally Utah.
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I mean, it's a synonym for happy, thriving people.
00:45:31.380
How did they get leaders like that in the state?
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That just went right over my head, but I'm glad that some people...
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So the idea is that God says, I will clean out my own house first.
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Everybody who says they're with me and they're not, I will clean that house out first, and then we'll go, okay?
00:46:19.640
And I have to tell you, I've talked to people in Salt Lake City, a lot of people, and apparently not as many as I thought,
00:46:27.100
but a lot of people have said, I am worried about our state because we were founded on God beyond the country.
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Do you know what Brigham Young's first, one of his first things he did?
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They were chased out of Missouri, and they had bloody feet from walking in the snow.
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When they finally came here, which you and I talked about today, I think I would have been pissed at Brigham Young if he said, this is the place.
00:47:09.480
But anyway, one of the first things he did, organize a choir.
00:47:19.600
They took and created a choir, and then he had a parade.
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It might be different, but I think it was the men carried the Declaration,
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and the women carried the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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And his point was, we're not mad at that country.
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America did not betray us, but people will go wrong.
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Now, you tell me another group of people that have been chased out and have that respect for a country.
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They found this whole place on God, and do not turn your back on him.
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Do not turn your back, because he will clean out your house.
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And I have to say, as an Episcopalian from Southern California, I do consider the trek across the country by the Mormon settlers,
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like, one of the great displays of toughness, like, ever.
00:48:41.800
What happens in this election the next 60 days?
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However, is that going to be reported that way?
00:49:17.900
But it's striking how many of the public polls, the media polls, are designed to mislead.
00:49:27.200
Wikipedia does not acknowledge it, but it is a fact that a lot of public polls are designed to encourage or discourage certain constituencies, including people in Congress.
00:49:37.620
And so, the only polls that you can actually trust are the ones done internally by the campaigns, which are not publicly released, because the point of those polls is to drive their behavior.
00:49:47.040
So, they actually want to know how they're doing in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.
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They're just trying to figure out how much they should spend.
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And they have a lot of money and every incentive to hire the best pollsters in the world, both sides, by the way.
00:49:59.620
And so, the internals on, I happen to know this, the internals on both sides are showing Trump significantly ahead in the battleground states.
00:50:08.120
And that would, look, that's as of, just to be totally clear, that is as of Monday when I got that fact.
00:50:20.540
So, which is a state that I thought was moving in the other direction.
00:50:25.280
So, you know, and there are a lot of reasons for that.
00:50:27.060
One of them is a lot of, what's the word, non-traditional Republicans or non-traditional, people who haven't voted Republican before are voting for Trump.
00:50:38.900
The Harris campaign knows that, which is why they're blaming Russia again.
00:50:43.500
But, like, what could happen in the next six weeks that changes that?
00:50:50.040
I honestly think the only thing that could change that is one of two things.
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Massive corruption and our side believing you can't overcome that massive corruption.
00:51:09.120
But I think it's like three in ten Christians vote.
00:51:20.040
If we just, if our churches would just say, go out and vote and use the scriptures to tell you the difference between right and wrong.
00:51:36.720
We're fighting the same battle we have fought from the very beginning.
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I'll bring them all back, but I want the credit.
00:51:56.020
I'll tell them what to do, and you won't lose any of them.
00:52:05.700
They're going to make mistakes, but I will sacrifice myself.
00:52:20.460
All of these politicians are saying, give me the credit.
00:52:28.560
Nobody's going to be running with a stick that could poke out their eye.
00:52:32.140
Nobody will have guns, and if that doesn't work, nobody will have knives.
00:52:35.840
Nobody will have choice because nobody can fail because that causes problems.
00:52:54.340
He sent us here knowing we would fail and sin, but that is for our own good.
00:53:00.480
If I wasn't an alcoholic, I wouldn't be who I am today.
00:53:05.820
You can either wallow in your problems, or you can conquer them and put them in the right place,
00:53:13.300
in the rearview mirror, because you've learned from it, and it no longer has power on you.
00:53:22.960
Have you ever, I mean, you've obviously been really successful, but looking back, honestly,
00:53:29.900
have you ever learned anything except through suffering and failure?
00:53:41.480
The only thing I have learned in the height of my success, I have learned walk away.
00:53:52.520
If it wasn't for my alcoholism, and quite honestly, my baptism and redemption, there's
00:54:03.640
no way that, there's no way I would have survived Fox.
00:54:10.480
I walked in, and you know this, if you're successful and you'll play ball, they'll give
00:54:26.180
We can, you'd be amazed at what we can make go away.
00:54:29.640
We can, you'll be amazed how grateful we would be.
00:54:39.700
And what happens is people get in, and then, I mean, I know you, well, I don't know.
00:54:45.900
Maybe you don't feel this way, but I think fame and fortune is battery acid to the soul.
00:54:54.060
And you have to, you have to have a different, you have to know that from the get-go.
00:55:07.380
And so you constantly, the game that plays, I can't believe I'm saying this.
00:55:13.180
I, when I left Fox, I went to start my own thing.
00:55:20.460
And if you remember, everybody said, nobody's going to watch anything, any video online.
00:55:28.340
And they were right at the beginning because we were so early.
00:55:36.760
And the problem was buffering, that little wheel that kept spinning.
00:55:52.980
Well, when you go, and I have high risk tolerance when I feel like, no, this is what we're supposed to do.
00:56:00.260
And I went into it, and you walk off the stage at Fox, and now you're on a platform that is buffering.
00:56:08.360
And you're no longer, I know you felt this before.
00:56:12.920
When I was at Fox, it was like, it was like you could feel the White House move.
00:56:23.560
You could feel what, did you ever feel this way?
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No one in my family ever acknowledged what I did for a living.
00:56:33.000
So when I would get home, there was like literally no mention of anything I'd ever done during the day.
00:56:39.740
And so I kind of would forget about it, and then I'd get back to work and be like, whoa, this is too much.
00:56:49.620
I mean, you know, you are not a prophet in your own house.
00:56:57.440
But I mean, when I was on the air, you could, I could at least, I could feel the impact.
00:57:18.440
And I should say, I didn't like it because part of me really liked it.
00:57:26.320
I mean, my prompting was, if you don't leave now, you won't leave with your soul.
00:57:32.060
And that was, did you, to be more specific, was that a message that you felt you received?
00:57:38.120
I was, I've always wanted to sit at the cool kids table.
00:57:45.720
Nobody wants to be, I want to be, I want to be tied with Nelson Mandela.
00:57:52.000
You don't want to be with the dorks and the kids with thick glasses and stuff.
00:57:58.720
I know that comes as a surprise, but I've never been the cool kid.
00:58:02.940
And, and I had so many things that had happened.
00:58:13.400
But because I was who I was, they were intrigued by the creativity, but then boycotts and everything
00:58:24.020
And the night I was going in to tender my resignation at Fox, I was, I was called, they were doing,
00:58:37.780
So I didn't know this at the time, but they wrote a book about it, about what that was,
00:58:47.920
I don't know you don't review things, you know, before the debut.
00:58:54.640
I think it was open, but they had not had its official debut.
00:59:00.940
And there were lots of problems with it, but I saw it.
00:59:03.580
And I saw such vision and, and this, I knew what that could be.
00:59:15.360
And, but I got on the air and I started talking about it and their sales of tickets just skyrocketed.
00:59:22.800
And so they called me and they said, we're making some changes to the show.
00:59:32.620
So I went and I talked to the producers and I said, this is what's, you know, this, some of the things.
00:59:44.340
We think we've fixed some problems, but we, we just want you to.
00:59:47.840
So I, I go halfway through one of my security guys hands a phone to me.
00:59:53.680
And it just says, Bono is backstage, wants to meet you.
01:00:07.340
And so I go backstage and it's, uh, Julie, uh, Tamor who did the Lion King.
01:00:21.360
And as we're walking in, my wife says, do not give them advice.
01:00:30.400
And so we're standing there and Bono says, we're having a disagreement.
01:00:46.460
So we leave and all I'm thinking of is I finally have access.
01:01:02.220
And I walk into our apartment and we had this, I mean, movie apartment.
01:01:07.100
It was, uh, in the Bloomberg building, like 56th floor, floor to ceiling windows, 180 degree
01:01:18.780
And we walk in and the lights are all off and I open the door and I see the skyline where
01:01:24.680
I always wanted to live this, when I was this little, I always wanted to live in New
01:01:30.480
York and I opened the door and it's dark and it's just the city.
01:01:38.320
And, uh, and I said to my wife, how can this be God's plan?
01:01:50.380
My wife, who is much better than I am, said, I'm going to bed.
01:01:56.800
And I walked to the window and I can still feel the cold glass on my forehead and I leaned
01:02:07.120
against the window and I put my head there and I'm looking down at the city, which is
01:02:13.920
If you like that kind of stuff, it's intoxicating.
01:02:16.460
And I looked down and I'm like, how can this be your plan?
01:02:22.800
And I heard internally, I heard if you don't leave now, you will not leave with your soul.
01:02:32.900
The next day I went in and tendered my resignation.
01:03:06.720
What I started to tell you was, and now I lost it again.
01:03:10.920
You sincerely have started to, I started to say, there are times when I left, there were
01:03:22.160
times that I felt, I'm slipping, I got to get it back, I got to get it back, I'm slipping,
01:03:31.300
I'm not in the public eye, I got to, I don't know if you've ever felt that, but you, that's
01:03:37.220
what fame does to you, it makes you, it just sets some alarm bell off in you, you're not
01:03:45.320
who you used to be, you're not, you're not as good as you used to be, you got to go, you
01:03:49.140
got to get this, you got to do that, you got to keep moving.
01:03:55.260
I, I honestly, we just left our ranch, I've spent the last four months at my ranch and
01:04:02.080
I, last night my, my wife said, you don't seem like you're in the best of moods and I
01:04:09.180
said, for the last four months, I haven't had, I can go in, do my job, talk about all
01:04:17.220
these things and then walk outside and it's quiet.
01:04:21.660
I, I said, I am at the least stress and the healthiest mindset I've been in, in probably
01:04:32.560
20 years, I don't want to leave, I don't want to go back to Dallas, but my kids are still
01:04:42.560
I always thought when I worked in television, which was my whole life really, that every man
01:04:47.240
on TV should have a full length mirror mounted outside his shower and so you, then you emerge
01:04:56.040
No, I think you'll agree when you understand why.
01:05:00.440
Because you walk out of the steam and you're in the shower thinking about, you know, how
01:05:03.960
great you are and then you see this kind of furry, lumpy, homo sapien, this primate and
01:05:26.760
I, I don't have a mirror in your bathroom, but, um.
01:05:34.520
I just really believe that it's so important to know how absurd you are and I have three
01:05:45.320
In fact, I always joke in my house that my memoir will be called The Carlson Girls Are
01:05:51.460
And I, I'm so grateful for their resistance to being impressed, but, um.
01:05:56.680
I have to tell you, I was just talking to somebody in the green room and they said, you
01:06:11.260
So, my daughter said, and I apologize for this story, Jack.
01:06:15.340
My daughter said, one point, um, she's the reader of the family and she came to me and
01:06:25.740
And she said, it's a New York Times number one bestseller.
01:06:33.300
And I said, you know, your dad has 25 New York Times bestsellers and 12 number ones.
01:06:54.120
It, me being a bestselling author destroyed her image of the New York Times, which I'm
01:07:13.040
I have to say, we've done this our fourth night in a row.
01:07:17.560
And for the fourth night in a row, I've interviewed someone who is sober.
01:07:26.000
And I'm not, I don't say that in a judgy way, but there is something about people who've
01:07:31.880
been forced to confront the fact that they're pretty flawed, which you did in the first
01:07:36.460
sentence this evening, that it's very, very important.
01:07:39.880
It's so important to have your flaws up in your face at all times because it keeps you
01:07:51.680
I look up, I am so insignificant and I'm flawed.
01:07:58.520
You know, I, there are times that I think, dig me and God is a going, you know, and I, I
01:08:21.680
The ones who have gone through recovery, because every step, if our country, if our
01:08:29.040
planet took those 12 steps, we'd fix it overnight.
01:08:48.200
I need to get rid of all of the crap that I'm afraid of, that somebody will find out about
01:08:56.020
I'll try to make amends when I can for anything that I've done to hurt somebody.
01:09:00.660
You know, it's, it's amazing in the scriptures.
01:09:03.480
It's the helmet of salvation, the helmet of salvation, the helmet stopping crap from coming
01:09:31.400
Don't believe all of those lies, that tape that you have running inside of your head all
01:09:40.100
Put, push eject and get that tape and throw it in the garbage and then put a shield in front
01:09:56.200
I am flawed, but I have the right to make my own choices.
01:10:06.020
And if I fail, don't take that failure from me.
01:10:14.500
We keep, you and I were the same on the Gulf War, or in the Iraqi War.
01:10:20.800
We both were like, yeah, you know, that's probably your weapons of master structure.
01:10:53.020
I like a lot of the stuff you say, and then some of the other stuff.
01:11:04.120
And I like the fact that he's saying, you know, we've got to get healthy.
01:11:08.740
We've got, you know, this, I never, I was for go pharmaceutical companies.
01:11:28.000
And what's really bad is we're about to create God, AI.
01:11:43.560
This is, you have to understand, AI, you have to understand that is an alien life.
01:11:50.380
They don't even know how it comes up with answers.
01:11:58.000
I know what he's going to say, and I know how he came to that, and he's stupid.
01:12:09.300
We don't even know how it thinks or comes up with its answers.
01:12:21.540
there's spaceships up in the sky, and they're going to be landing in 20 minutes.
01:12:26.060
And for all of us to do one of two things, either everyone freak out, they're going to kill all of us,
01:12:33.080
or start making pies because they're going to be our best friend.
01:12:57.380
You fear the people that are programming it right now.
01:13:07.000
Racism, the only way to fix racism is to be racist yourself?
01:13:19.240
Because if that's what we're teaching it, I have news for you.
01:13:22.640
You know, you're sponsored by a fantastic group that fights abortion.
01:13:37.560
And I'm sitting with Dan and his wife today, who are some of the greatest people I know,
01:13:44.640
and we're talking about how things are changing.
01:13:47.500
And he leans over to me at one point, and he said, if we're debanked, what do we do?
01:13:57.940
If Kamala Harris wins, she is the most shout-your-abortion evil on that topic.
01:14:16.020
Do you really think that you're going to have a right...
01:14:23.600
Look what they're doing to Elon Musk in Brazil.
01:14:26.760
If they'll do it to Trump, they'll do it to Elon Musk.
01:14:30.900
Do you really think they won't put you in jail, grandma, who walked through the Capitol building
01:14:39.760
They will not allow you to fight for these things.
01:14:47.740
We have to decide who we are, what is really important.
01:15:02.920
No matter what you think of Donald Trump, he doesn't need this.
01:15:05.960
The man who gets down and is shot, you know somebody has just about killed you.
01:15:13.800
For him to stand up and say, I need to see the crowd.
01:15:20.100
I need to give them a message, show them our right.
01:15:26.480
He stands up, exposes himself, because he believes in something.
01:15:36.060
Let me ask you one last question, since you touched on the shooting.
01:15:48.360
I mean, that just happened in front of everyone a little more than a month ago.
01:15:52.360
I don't think we've talked about it since, as a country.
01:16:01.220
Well, Jack, I don't know how many number one books you have, but as an author myself,
01:16:11.880
So, as a fiction writer, I would say that was an op.
01:16:19.340
They tried to kill the President of the United States.
01:16:22.500
I mean, I think we can say conclusively the Biden administration allowed that to happen.
01:16:35.620
Whether knowingly or not, they allowed it to happen.
01:16:38.740
I've been in a million secret services my whole life.
01:16:50.200
And yet, no one has followed up on how that happened.
01:17:01.020
I mean, look, I had a conversation with a guy once, and he said to me, you got to get
01:17:19.980
I'm going to send a plane to pick you up right now so you can get out of there, because
01:17:30.440
And I said, are you saying what I think you're saying?
01:17:34.380
And he said, Glenn, do you think movies are just pull it out of the thin air?
01:17:40.360
This kind of stuff happens all the time at great levels of power.
01:17:45.400
When, if you want to, they cannot allow Donald Trump to be president.
01:17:57.880
But I tell you, I have been with him one on one.
01:18:01.140
He is a different man in person than he is on stage.
01:18:19.200
Martin Luther King was like the eighth guy that people said, hey, you want to lead this
01:18:26.060
All the good guys, all the guys who are like, I'm buttoned up, I'm with the Lord, they said
01:18:36.000
Martin Luther King was just the first one that was either willing or dumb enough to take the
01:18:49.480
The Lord will use any person, any flaws, anybody, if you just will say yes.
01:19:02.120
Donald Trump is just the first person who said, okay, I'll do it.
01:19:10.060
And what, are we going to sit at home when we have a guy who's willing to die for the
01:19:16.340
country, not his fame, not his fortune, his country.
01:19:21.860
And are we going to sit at home and go, I don't know, it might, they might try to steal
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Get your fat ass out of the chair and grab people and take them to the polls.
01:19:51.360
I hate to tell you that it's still going on in 2024, but you know what they can't censor?
01:19:56.520
And that's why we are hitting the road on a fall tour for the entire month of September,
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We'll be in Tulsa, Oklahoma with Dan Bongino, Kansas City with Megan Kelly, Wichita with Charlie
01:20:11.300
Kirk, Milwaukee with Larry Elder, Rosenberg, Texas with Jesse Kelly, Grand Rapids with the
01:20:16.320
Kid Rock, Hershey, Pennsylvania with J.D. Vance, Reading, Pennsylvania with Alex Jones, Fort
01:20:21.780
Worth, Texas with Roseanne Barr, Greenville, South Carolina with Marjorie Taylor Greene,
01:20:26.880
Sunrise, Florida with John Rich, Jacksonville, Florida with Donald Trump Jr.
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