The Tucker Carlson Show - Gord Magill

00:00:00.000 Justin Trudeau is such a metrosexual buffoon, always dressing up in old costumes, that it's 0.99

00:00:16.560 almost impossible, or it was almost impossible, to think of him as an authoritarian dictator. 0.97

00:00:22.620 You can't take him seriously enough to be afraid of him, but then you probably don't live in

00:00:27.100 Canada. But all of that began to change two winters ago. This was the height of the COVID lockdowns,

00:00:34.760 and Canada had some most restrictive COVID regulations in the world. Among them was a

00:00:39.880 vax mandate. The people who told you it was your body, your choice, didn't believe that at all.

00:00:44.380 All of a sudden, they told you, you must take the shot or you can't participate

00:00:48.080 in life. You can't go anywhere. You can't work. Well, there is at least one group of Canadians

00:00:55.400 with testosterone levels sufficient to question an order like that, and they turned out to be

00:01:00.500 long-haul truckers. And they descended on Canadian cities in January of 2022 to make their voices

00:01:07.720 heard, as they say on the news, to make their voices heard. But they were not greeted in the way that

00:01:12.140 other groups who want to make their voices heard are greeted as heroes. No, they were greeted with

00:01:17.800 derision in the Canadian media, which effectively is an arm of the Trudeau administration, and by our

00:01:23.220 media, which is effectively an arm of the Democratic Party. Almost nobody took their side. But what's

00:01:27.860 interesting is how reasonable their demands were. Listen to us. Hey, Canada, maybe forcing people to

00:01:35.320 take an untested medicine is not a good idea. They didn't threaten violence. They weren't violent.

00:01:39.900 They were the core of the Canadian middle class, which is almost extinct at this point.

00:01:43.820 But what was so telling and should really have been foreshadowing of what came later was Justin

00:01:49.760 Trudeau's reaction to the Canadian truckers, to the trucker convoy? He refused to speak to them.

00:01:55.720 Here he's explaining why. Is there a reason that you can give us for why you will not

00:02:00.820 discuss or have any negotiations with this particular group?

00:02:04.900 I have attended protests and rallies in the past when I agreed with the goals, when I supported the

00:02:12.400 people expressing their concerns and their issues. Black Lives Matter is an excellent example of that.

00:02:17.820 But I have also chosen to not go anywhere near protests that have expressed hateful rhetoric,

00:02:25.780 violence towards fellow citizens, and a disrespect not just of science, but of the frontline health

00:02:33.720 workers and, quite frankly, the 90% of truckers who have been doing the right thing to keep Canadians safe,

00:02:40.960 to put food on our tables. Canadians know where I stand. This is a moment for responsible leaders to

00:02:47.760 think carefully about where they stand and who they stand with.

00:02:51.780 So people who are paying close attention learned a lot from that clip. First, here is a guy,

00:02:59.620 Justin Trudeau, who will say literally anything. He will say the opposite of what is true with a smile

00:03:05.040 on his face. His heart rate won't rise a bit. He's a sociopath. Here is also a person who has no regard,

00:03:10.420 in fact, contempt for democracy. This is the elected leader of a so-called democracy who refuses to even

00:03:16.720 listen to criticism of his policies. So, in fact, he's not a democratic leader. He's an authoritarian.

00:03:22.640 And that became very clear shortly after that was shot. At least four Canadian truckers went to jail.

00:03:29.700 Now, what did they go to jail for? What did they do exactly? Well, to this day, no one can really say,

00:03:34.760 and they're still in jail. Watch the Canadian media's description of that specific case.

00:03:42.960 And as you listen to what we're about to show you, ask yourself, did they tell me anything real or was

00:03:50.660 every single word a lie spoken at the behest of the ruling party of Canada? This is state media

00:03:57.240 exhibit A. Watch this. According to newly unsealed court documents, RCMP believe four men accused of

00:04:03.780 plotting to kill Mounties at the Coutts border blockade were being given orders by an outside

00:04:08.160 leadership group. The names of the people in that group have been redacted from the report as they

00:04:13.300 are part of an active investigation. The newly released records involve transcriptions of phone

00:04:18.160 calls between the four charged with conspiracy to commit murder, Anthony Olenek, Chris Lysak,

00:04:23.240 Jerry Morin and Chris Carbert and the unidentified leadership group. The documents state the leadership

00:04:28.660 wanted more than just vaccine mandates lifted, but also the elimination of the professional

00:04:33.420 political class. It also alleges Olenek, Lysak, Morin and Carbert trained for months

00:04:38.460 and stockpiled firearms at Olenek's property near Claire's home while taking orders from an

00:04:43.600 unidentified group. The documents reveal in February, Mounties seized more than 36,000 rounds of

00:04:49.480 ammunition, two pipe bombs, gas masks, camouflage and tactical gear from the property. Other intercepted

00:04:56.320 calls from the four men's cell phones refer to more potential weapons coming from a second stockpile in

00:05:01.060 Nantin, as well as a growing tension between those protesting in Coutts and the leadership group.

00:05:06.600 In February, Olenek, Lysak, Morin, Carbert and nine others were arrested after RCMP uncovered a

00:05:12.580 cache of weapons in Coutts. Olenek is also charged with making and possessing an explosive device

00:05:18.160 and Lysak faces a charge of uttering threats. So parse what you just heard carefully, again,

00:05:24.100 that's state media in Canada. So here are four guys, working class guys live in rural areas,

00:05:29.920 and they've got a firearm stockpile, right? They probably don't have a lot more between the

00:05:37.440 four of them than your average farmer does in the state of Nebraska or the state of Maine or the state

00:05:41.900 of Oregon or anywhere else far from a big city. They're hunters and so they have guns. Now the pipe

00:05:47.900 bomb is a very specific question. What's a pipe bomb? We don't know. And neither does the media

00:05:53.100 organization reporting it. But critically, they don't tell you anything about this outside group that's

00:05:58.500 supposedly coordinating them. The point of that news report was not to inform you, but to scare

00:06:02.800 the crap out of you and make those four people who are now in jail seem like scary threats to Canada. 0.69

00:06:09.080 Mission accomplished. So what you have in a country like Canada, where you have an authoritarian 0.98

00:06:14.320 government that's taken away civil liberties, a dying middle class, and no media, is you have almost

00:06:21.740 nobody pushing back against the lies. There is maybe one news organization left in Canada

00:06:26.660 that does, that asks very simple questions of the people who run the country. Why are you doing

00:06:32.220 this? Can you answer the question? That's rebel news. Watch one of their reporters try to ask

00:06:38.800 Krista Freeland, who's the finance minister of Canada, spent many years in Washington, D.C., known

00:06:43.880 to many people who lived in D.C. as a kind of low IQ functionary. She now has power and she does not 1.00

00:06:50.540 want to answer any questions from the one independent media organization remaining in Canada. Watch what

00:06:55.940 happens when a reporter tries to get her to answer the question.

00:06:59.500 Mr. Freeland, how come the IRDC is not a terrorist group? Why is your government supporting

00:07:06.620 Islam on national media? What are you doing? What are you doing? You're under arrest for

00:07:12.180 assault. You're under arrest for assault. You're under arrest for assault. Police. Police. You're

00:07:21.180 under arrest for assault. How am I under arrest? You bumped into me. You pushed into me. I was just

00:07:26.020 scrubbing. I've got my credentials here and you just bumped into me. Can I have the microphone?

00:07:30.560 Can I have the microphone? Can I have the microphone? This is your Canada now, folks. You know, this

00:07:45.380 is the gestapo taking blackface's orders.

00:07:48.120 So Canada has descended to an extremely dark place and there are a lot of threads to the

00:07:52.240 story. We're going to Canada very soon to see it for ourselves. But before we go, we thought we would

00:07:56.600 speak to Gord McGill, who knows a lot about this. He is a Canadian and a trucker. He was not,

00:08:02.040 strictly speaking, part of the Freedom Convoy two winters ago, but he was there. And for a lot

00:08:07.300 of Americans, he was the main way that we knew what was happening because he recorded it and put

00:08:13.300 it out on social media. He joins us now. Gord McGill, thanks so much.

00:08:16.200 Thank you for having me, Mr. Carlson. Pleasure to meet you.

00:08:18.280 It's great to meet you. So it's funny that Canada, second largest country in the world,

00:08:23.040 bigger than the United States, deeper natural resources in the United States, our biggest

00:08:26.480 trading partner. Canada is a big deal to the U.S. in a lot of ways.

00:08:30.420 We've been good neighbors for the most part.

00:08:32.280 I would say. I haven't tried to invade or anything like that.

00:08:35.140 Although I think we need an invasion north, but.

00:08:37.200 I think we can get that done. But the average American knows nothing about what's going on

00:08:43.280 in Canada. And our understanding of Canada is ruled by cliches that developed 40 years ago.

00:08:49.600 We think of it as a passive, ultra nice country where, you know, that no one gets arrested.

00:08:55.640 I would submit to you that the Canadian media returns that in kind because they've been

00:08:59.360 operating on cliches about Americans since forever.

00:09:02.500 I think that's right. And there's a lot going on there. But it's a little bit shocking,

00:09:07.800 I think, to most Americans to see how authoritarian Canada has become truly a place where you can't

00:09:13.840 ask a question or be arrested for assault. Are you shocked?

00:09:16.760 Um, that particular incident with Mr. Menzies, I mean, I, I want to say it's shocking, but at this

00:09:24.600 point, you know, the freedom convoy in Ottawa was crushed in much the same way. Um, RCMP smashing

00:09:32.040 the windows of trucks, beating up peaceful protesters. Um, I, I, I'm not really surprised

00:09:38.380 that they did this to Mr. Menzies.

00:09:39.760 It's horrifying, but again, you wouldn't be surprised since you've been following it,

00:09:45.260 um, for more than two years now. So tell us, let's, let's go right to that clip that we played

00:09:50.980 from state media in Canada about the four incredibly dangerous people who are still languishing in

00:09:56.300 prison.

00:09:56.560 Right. Yes.

00:09:57.540 Tell us who they are.

00:09:58.560 So, uh, colloquially known as the Coutts Four, um, Jerry Moran, Chris Lysak, Chris Carbert,

00:10:05.280 and Tony Olianek are a group of protesters who are at the Coutts Freedom Convoy site.

00:10:12.820 Where is Coutts?

00:10:13.840 Uh, it's on the border with Alberta and Montana, sort of where Interstate 15 ends and the highway

00:10:18.660 north to Calgary and other points. And, um, they, they were there exercising, um, their rights

00:10:26.200 to object to government policies and, um, due to very powerful forces, they've been caught

00:10:34.800 up in railroaded really, um, by the government and, and sort of used as, used as pawns because

00:10:44.940 after the Freedom Convoy ended, was crushed by Trudeau and the government. Um, there was an

00:10:51.380 inquest into that, um, called the Public Order Emergency Commission, which the,

00:10:56.200 uh, the Justice Rouleau in his conclusion about, um, the question of whether or not Justin Trudeau

00:11:03.400 was justified in imposing the Emergencies Act. He was, um, I can't remember the exact word,

00:11:09.700 but he was a little bit reluctant. He was sort of like reluctantly agreed that Trudeau was within

00:11:14.620 his rights. And most of that hinges on this case in Coutts, which once you investigate it,

00:11:22.320 isn't much of a case at all. And so these four regular working class dudes who are at the protest

00:11:27.940 site have now been imprisoned for almost two years. They were denied bail. Uh, they're kept in

00:11:34.000 what's called remand because they haven't been convicted of anything. They haven't faced trial

00:11:38.680 yet. So they don't get the, the rights afforded, um, convicted prisoners. And so they've, you know,

00:11:46.020 been subject to, um, long stints of, um, uh, Oh man, solitary confinement and denial of certain

00:11:56.800 medical care. There's been some drama around that. Um, Tony Olianek has got, um, problems with his

00:12:02.040 guts. He was denied, um, medication that he needed. Uh, Chris Lysak is a big, huge bear of a man. He's

00:12:09.500 six foot five, uh, has size 15 feet. They still haven't given him the proper shoes to wear while

00:12:15.460 he's in jail. He's like walking around in Crocs all the time. Um, he also has problems because he's

00:12:21.080 so big, he needs an extra mattress. They've just, they've, they've treated these guys like crap. 1.00

00:12:25.500 And what I'll just say, there's no media in the world. I have more contempt for than the Canadian 1.00

00:12:30.720 media. They literally work for the government. They are state media.

00:12:34.040 Yeah. They're financed to the hilt in 2019. Um, the Trudeau regime gave them $595 million to bail

00:12:41.760 them out because they're losing money, uh, in part because a lot of people know they're liars and

00:12:45.980 aren't interested in what they have to sell. And there's been top ups to that. And I think,

00:12:50.300 uh, I was looking it up. There's somewhere north of $700 million in subsidies from Justin Trudeau.

00:12:56.040 Right. So it's, he owns the media. He uses your tax dollars to pay for flattering coverage of

00:13:02.060 himself. Right. And that's not even counting the CBC. That's a whole another $1.7 billion.

00:13:06.240 And to eliminate all coverage of his MISTIs. But I just want to get to something that we played in

00:13:13.380 that clip. They were accused of taking orders from a secretive outside group and Canadian media

00:13:18.020 wouldn't tell us because it was quote redacted what this group is. Has anyone ever explained who

00:13:24.240 these guys were supposedly working for? Well, there's, there's, there's been some, the Russians,

00:13:27.680 I assume. Uh, yeah, there was one CBC reporter who accused the freedom convoy of taking money from

00:13:32.580 Putin. Of course, that was ridiculous. Um, one of the items there they were talking about, it was 0.92

00:13:40.480 actually a telegram group that's run by one guy who's just a random dude that espouses his opinion.

00:13:48.280 And the government is claiming this one random guy of the telegram group to be some criminal

00:13:53.160 mastermind. Um, interestingly enough, that guy hasn't been apprehended, arrested, or charged with

00:13:58.440 anything. And the media have also tried to conflate the Coots guys with a podcaster in Canada named

00:14:07.220 Jeremy McKenzie and his meme country he created in his mind called Diagonon. And there's a social

00:14:16.500 justice activist group in Canada called the Canadian Anti-Hate Network who are also paid by Trudeau.

00:14:21.100 And they claim that Diagonon are like an ethno-nationalist threat and they're going to,

00:14:26.560 you know, they're armed to the hilt and they're going to take over the government.

00:14:30.300 And investigations showed that Diagonon doesn't exist. And Jeremy McKenzie is just a guy

00:14:37.280 sitting in his house in Nova Scotia with some fans. And they tried to turn this into a thing.

00:14:42.800 There was documents released showing that what the Canadian Anti-Hate Network had said

00:14:47.380 was totally false. And the media hasn't discussed that at all.

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00:16:28.080 So you've got four, at least four, I think many more, but you've got these four political prisoners

00:16:33.480 rotting in prison, no bail, no trial for two years. Has the Canadian media said anything about this other

00:16:40.560 than to accuse them of being controlled by? So at the beginning, the media repeated these

00:16:47.500 allegations from the RCMP and the Crown, the defense sought a publication ban because it was

00:16:54.500 apparent immediately that the media was trying to railroad these guys. So the media, what they've

00:16:59.980 done now is they're hiding behind that publication ban, but the publication ban is very specific on

00:17:05.020 information to obtain and these unproven allegations by the RCMP and the Crown. You can still ask questions

00:17:13.320 about the case, right? Like, why have these guys been denied bail? What are the connections,

00:17:18.320 the political connections to the invocation of the Emergency Act and the resulting Public Order

00:17:22.980 Emergency Commission ruling? There's all kinds of questions you can still ask about this case

00:17:27.520 that are not subject to the bans, and there's been nothing.

00:17:33.180 So do Canadians understand what's happening? Do they care, do you think?

00:17:38.500 A small number of us do, but we are not the people represented in the media.

00:17:44.980 How do Canadians get, I mean, your media blockade is North Korean. I mean, it's like, 0.98

00:17:49.300 it's hard to get information in Canada. How do people get news about what's actually happening?

00:17:54.200 Well, they have to read, you know, I've written on this case in Newsweek. They have to go to American 1.00

00:17:58.760 media or other parts of the world because, you know, there are some people in Canada trying,

00:18:03.780 like, you know, I'm Canadian, I write on Substack. There's a couple other,

00:18:06.700 you know, people who've been podcasting about it. I should say you're living in exile.

00:18:10.940 Yeah, I live in upstate New York now. That's correct. Yeah. I escaped the gulag.

00:18:15.360 Yep. But yeah, so if people back home want to find out about this, there's only a small number

00:18:21.040 of people discussing it, and most of them aren't in the country. I assume that Trudeau,

00:18:27.880 like all authoritarians, like Joe Biden, is making an example of the Coutts Four to discourage

00:18:33.320 future protests. That's what Biden did with January 6th. Arrest all these people. People

00:18:38.000 are afraid. We haven't had mass protests about anything since January 6th because people know

00:18:42.040 that the FBI will put them in prison. Do you think that's why he did that?

00:18:45.480 I think that's why he did that. And then over and above the Coutts Four guys,

00:18:49.780 there's a number of other people who are continuing to be punished. Chris Barber and Tamara Leach,

00:18:54.940 who are the sort of the faces of the Ottawa convoy,

00:18:57.400 they were charged with like mischief and intimidation and counseling mischief and all 0.62

00:19:04.020 these like silly, ridiculous charges, and their court cases are still ongoing. A number of people

00:19:10.460 who were involved in Ottawa, like just showing up and protesting and taking part in it, making their

00:19:17.620 voices heard, as you said, were also charged with mischief and various other offenses. Some of

00:19:23.480 those people, they had their cases dropped or they were acquitted because there was nothing to it.

00:19:29.260 And now the Crown is appealing those acquittals and they're trying to drag regular people who've

00:19:34.560 already been through their court case and had it acquitted and they're bringing them back and

00:19:38.560 charging them again. He's vindictive, man. Like he can't not be wrong. He can't not admit that the

00:19:49.100 largest peaceful protest in Canadian history was just that. It has to be something else to like

00:19:55.480 satisfy his like sort of a proclivities towards totalitarianism. Yeah. Well, not even proclivities,

00:20:01.880 just the totalitarianism he's imposing on the country. Have there been mass protests since the

00:20:07.380 trucker convoy? No, I'm aware of. See, so it works. It does, unfortunately. And the media,

00:20:15.500 as you say, have a role to play in this because they are basically not discussing the fact that we

00:20:21.180 have a situation almost akin to Guantanamo Bay with four of our own citizens, something many 0.58

00:20:28.260 Americans might not know about. There was a young kid named Omar Cotter who was born in Canada, but

00:20:34.780 his, you know, I think his father was from Egypt or somewhere else. And Cotter Sr. was a supporter of

00:20:42.120 the Taliban. And after September 11th, Cotter Sr. and his boy went to Afghanistan. Omar Cotter was

00:20:49.660 involved in a firefight with American troops. A medic was killed. Cotter was picked up, taken to,

00:20:57.520 I can't remember if it was Kabul or Kandahar, and then sent to Guantanamo Bay, but the only person at

00:21:02.840 Guantanamo with a Canadian passport. Regardless of that case or what anybody thinks about Omar Cotter,

00:21:08.680 the Canadian media did not shut up about that guy for the entire time. It was front page news,

00:21:15.580 front and center. Omar Cotter's being done dirty by being in Guantanamo Bay. We have to get him out.

00:21:21.340 Prime Minister at the time, Stephen Harper, was heavily criticized for not doing enough to have

00:21:26.000 Omar Cotter extracted from Guantanamo Bay. Eventually he was, came back to Canada, and then

00:21:32.320 Omar Cotter and his lawyers sued the government. And under the Trudeau administration,

00:21:37.000 was cut a check for $10.5 million. As payment for shooting an American medic or?

00:21:44.080 I, for being allowed to be in Guantanamo Bay for as long as he was. But the point is, is that the

00:21:51.900 media did everything in their power to make sure that Omar Cotter was a household name,

00:21:57.400 and they haven't lifted a finger for the Cots Four.

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00:22:41.160 So, Canada from afar, haven't been there in a while, but it does seem like it's collapsing.

00:22:50.460 I mean, it's not a good time. Most expensive real estate prices in the world, inflation out of

00:22:57.880 control. People are finding it really difficult to afford to live. It's almost impossible to buy a home

00:23:06.640 in many of the major cities. My sister went to go and see Pierre Poilievre, who's now the leader of

00:23:14.520 the Conservative Party, and he was doing, before he was elected to be leader of the Conservative Party,

00:23:19.940 he was doing, like, you know, the meet and greets and talking with people all across the country.

00:23:25.380 And my sister told me when she went to go meet him that the number one issue on everybody's lips,

00:23:30.780 past COVID, past anything else, was real estate prices and the housing shortage. Like,

00:23:37.240 where are our children going to live? How are they going to afford it? What are you going to do about

00:23:42.440 this? Well, one of the reasons your housing prices are so high is because there's massive foreign 1.00

00:23:48.180 investment from China into your real estate markets. That's one of them, yep. Yep, it is,

00:23:53.080 especially in Western Canada and Vancouver. So, the Prime Minister could end that tomorrow. The

00:23:58.360 government of Canada could end that tomorrow. Just only Canadian citizens can buy residential real

00:24:03.340 estate in Canada. Why not do that? Well, you know, it's been recently revealed that the Chinese 1.00

00:24:10.860 Communist Party has been involved in federal politics in Canada since at least Brian Mulroney.

00:24:18.000 And in the last two elections, like, CSIS has produced evidence that the Chinese Communist Party

00:24:25.280 directly assisted the election of 19 or 20 different members of Parliament. So, you know,

00:24:32.320 I don't foresee Mr. Trudeau doing too much to upset his masters.

00:24:38.440 Okay, well, maybe the other thing that the Canadian government could do, if you don't want to reign in

00:24:43.020 China because they're really in control, you could at least maybe slow down immigration a little bit. 0.98

00:24:49.400 I think Canada has the highest immigration rate per capita of any country in the world. You're

00:24:53.600 basically importing the entire subcontinent. You know, I want to, like, there's no material

00:25:01.460 way to support these people, right? Like, our health care, our nationally funded health care

00:25:07.180 system has got major problems. When you say major problems, what do you mean? Like,

00:25:11.700 unable to deliver care to the people who already live here, right? Yep. We don't have the housing,

00:25:18.000 we don't have, the economy can't support it. There's not enough jobs for everybody. And we're

00:25:24.320 just being told that, you know, a million immigrants a year is just fine, even though there is no 1.00

00:25:29.160 material way to support or integrate any of these extra people. And it's just making all these problems

00:25:35.280 worse. Has there been a national referendum on this? Do most Canadians support this? Hey,

00:25:40.240 let's move Bangladesh to Canada. Is it people for that? I would submit to you, most people would not 1.00

00:25:46.100 support that. But again, no one's doing the polling and the government doesn't care.

00:25:52.820 So if the government doesn't care, and if it's literally changing the nature of the country forever,

00:25:58.780 right in front of your eyes, and your opinion is irrelevant, how is it a democracy?

00:26:05.020 I would submit to you that it's not much of a democracy. And Trudeau rules because he's got a deal

00:26:14.580 with the leader of the new Democratic Party, Jagmeet Singh. And, you know, obviously, he's doing

00:26:21.160 very poorly. Polling indicates that in the next election, it's quite likely that the Conservative

00:26:26.680 Party is going to win. But I don't know if that's going to change anything. Right? Right. The

00:26:31.840 Conservatives in Canada seem very feminized to me and kind of self-hating and sad and afraid.

00:26:37.960 Do you know who Michael Malice is? Yes. He has a great saying,

00:26:42.940 conservative, conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit. And that applies with

00:26:48.300 the Conservative Party of Canada. But what is it? I mean, that that is one thing about Canada

00:26:51.840 that's remained consistent. And I think Canada will be a completely different country in 10 years

00:26:55.180 because of immigration. So we'll reassess then. But people who are born in Canada have a reputation

00:27:00.380 of being apologetic, not wanting to rock the boat, a little bit self-hating, meek.

00:27:07.760 I don't know about self-hating, but they're definitely naval gazers.

00:27:11.520 What is that?

00:27:13.500 That's a long-running psyop. You know, if you grow up in Canada, you have Canadian content rules on the

00:27:22.100 CBC and in the rest of the media. And we're always taught to, like, think of ourselves as not being

00:27:29.140 Americans. And it's always Canada, Canada, Canada all the time, rather than, like, looking outwards

00:27:34.540 and being adult about things. There's there's something in the zeitgeist there that, like,

00:27:40.440 you know, makes us extremely self-referential and almost insular in a way while pretending to not be.

00:27:49.020 Yes. And it it strips Canadians of their ability, with the exception of these truckers, I guess,

00:27:55.100 their ability to say, wait a second, you can't do this to my country.

00:27:57.660 Like, there's not a lot of that in Canada. They seem passive.

00:28:03.000 Unfortunately, some people in Canada are passive. And then when you get people who do rise up and

00:28:10.300 say, hey, enough's enough. Well, this is what you get now. The media smears you, lies about you. The

00:28:15.460 government crushes your protest. And there you have it. Like, there's but if you have a cross-dressing 0.86

00:28:22.220 fascist like Justin Trudeau take over and one of his first orders of business is to take your guns

00:28:28.100 away, I don't think you need to be a genius to ask, like, why would you want to do that? Canada

00:28:32.140 doesn't. I mean, there's no evidence that farmers in Saskatchewan are going on murder sprees. Okay.

00:28:37.180 Why would he be so intent on taking their guns away, their means of self-defense? Did that raise

00:28:41.960 any alarms for anyone in Canada that maybe this guy doesn't have the best intentions?

00:28:45.980 It's raised a number of alarms with people who are not represented in the media and not represented

00:28:53.400 in the government. Like, people do know about this and people are concerned. But again, you have to go

00:28:58.720 outside the country to hear about it or you have to go into, you know, alternative media.

00:29:04.520 I should say, just to be totally clear and sincere, I'm one of the few Americans who actually loves

00:29:09.220 Canada because I think it's so beautiful. I love my country too. It is very beautiful. Yeah,

00:29:13.120 it's the most beautiful, I think. It's full of really good people who are not being served by

00:29:17.120 their government. But the government killing thousands of Canadians a year through assisted

00:29:22.740 suicide, assisted suicide, which they encourage, not for immigrants, only for native-born, 0.99

00:29:28.200 that seems a pretty ominous sign. Like, if the government is killing its own citizens,

00:29:32.680 maybe they don't mean you well. I'm just trying to connect dots here. Yeah, well, given the

00:29:38.220 sort of collapsing health care system, this medical assistance and dying program, and their

00:29:46.260 seeming lack of concern about making any of these material conditions better by just throwing more

00:29:57.340 people at the problem would belie that, no, in fact, they do not care about us at all.

00:30:01.520 But does anybody, I mean, in other words, if I say I love you and then I say what I really think 0.99

00:30:05.720 you should do is kill yourself and I'll help you. Maybe I'm lying. Maybe I don't love you. I mean, 0.98

00:30:10.440 I'm just, again, just throwing that out there. Of course, yeah. Has anyone in Canada said that?

00:30:14.040 Are you allowed to say that out loud? I'm not 100% sure on that one, but it seems like there's

00:30:19.400 less and less things we are allowed to say, if not in the letter of the law, but in what the media

00:30:26.440 will allow in the discourse. Yes. Wow. That's pretty distressing. Do you think you'll be able to return

00:30:37.240 to Canada? And do you want to? I mean, you know, I've got lots of family there. I have two daughters

00:30:43.240 who, you know, maybe one day when they grow up, they'd like to move back to Canada and, you know,

00:30:48.380 check the place out, maybe settle there. I've, you know, I don't know, but it's, it doesn't look

00:30:56.320 really good. And I, you know, when the, when the emergencies act was declared, I was thinking about

00:31:03.600 going back to Ottawa a second time. And I, I actually sought like legal counsel about whether

00:31:10.780 or not I would get picked up at the border because of what I was saying in Newsweek, like

00:31:14.740 under the emergency. What were you saying? Were you calling for insurrection against

00:31:18.240 Justin Trudeau? No, I was just simply telling the truth about what the protesters wanted and what

00:31:23.320 was actually going on in the streets in Ottawa. Do you think it's weird that we have this State

00:31:27.380 Department that's totally, obviously doesn't like America, but is focused supposedly on freedoms in

00:31:32.440 other countries and we're sending half a trillion to Ukraine to liberate Ukraine, but we have these

00:31:39.260 grotesque human rights violations right across our border and no one says anything about it.

00:31:44.740 in the, from the State Department. Does that seem weird?

00:31:47.660 It does. And, you know, something that was revealed in these documents related to this

00:31:53.980 Jeremy McKenzie fellow is that members of the Five Eyes security arrangement were basically

00:32:02.760 brought into this sort of wild goose chase after this guy. And so like your own security

00:32:10.740 services resources, resources were wasted chasing a Canadian podcaster.

00:32:16.620 And the other English speaking, the Five Eyes refers to the English speaking intelligence services.

00:32:20.980 Right. They, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, United States. Um, they were assisting with this?

00:32:28.520 They were, they were involved with it. Yeah. It was revealed in those documents that at least New Zealand

00:32:33.120 and the United States were both, um, involved in this investigation.

00:32:38.380 Have you, I'm not surprised at all. I mean, it's not, these are not separate governments. This is one government.

00:32:43.660 Um, have you ever met anyone personally who likes Justin Trudeau?

00:32:47.840 No. No. You've never met, like even just, just say hi. Like you've never met anyone who likes him.

00:32:57.120 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm sure there are people I know and in my life who, you know, think he's all right,

00:33:01.960 or maybe even voted for him. But like most of my really good friends and associates dislike the man.

00:33:09.240 And I mean, dislike is the diplomatic term I will use on TV. Um, would they feel comfortable announcing

00:33:16.320 that in Canada, the ones who still live there? I mean, you know, there are people who will say

00:33:22.960 things about Mr. Trudeau. I mean, it, it's, you, you, you are taking a risk, you know, like I, um,

00:33:30.700 I had the RCMP call me once for sending mean tweets at Prime Minister Trudeau.

00:33:34.860 What'd they say? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Yes. There's a, there's an organization,

00:33:40.960 a sub organization within the RCMP called the Protective Investigations Unit.

00:33:44.740 Oh, they sound like fun. Yeah. They're sort of akin to the secret service.

00:33:48.240 Yeah. And there's like a, another group within them who monitor online.

00:33:51.940 Hate. Hate. Yeah. Hate, Gord.

00:33:54.980 Uh, I guess, I guess they, they, they did, they didn't like me making fun of the prime minister.

00:33:59.700 What were you saying? Nothing. I was just posting memes at him.

00:34:03.060 Oh, but the memes were dangerous. So the, I guess like feds called you as, as, um, who's this fellow

00:34:09.400 in Florida that was, uh, arrested, uh, and charged and went to court for making memes by

00:34:14.840 we interviewed him. Yes. He's facing prison time for that. Yeah. Making fun of Hillary Clinton,

00:34:19.500 not allowed, but what, I mean, I do think it's fair to say America's obviously becoming a police

00:34:25.500 state pretty clear, but Canada is farther along down that path. It's smaller. There's less resistance.

00:34:32.640 There's no media at all independent. So it's a captive nation. What can Americans

00:34:38.980 do to help our cousins North of the border?

00:34:44.200 I'm just understanding that most of the Canadian media are corporate welfare cases and that you're

00:34:50.220 never going to get the truth out of them. Um, much like a lot of the media here and, you know,

00:34:55.920 stay awake to that. Um, if they wanted to, they could help the coots for guys. We have a, we have

00:35:01.680 a new give, send, go set up for them simply called Trudeau's political prisoners because they have the

00:35:07.280 full weight of the state against them. And they've had trouble getting decent and competent legal

00:35:12.940 representation because, you know, being a lawyer or a judge in Canada means in some way you're

00:35:17.720 connected to the liberal party, right? Like 76% of judges in Canada are donors to, and members of the

00:35:25.080 liberal party. So it's very difficult to like fight this in court. And so if Americans want to

00:35:30.920 help, like we could really use some money to get these guys have decent lawyers. It's a, I mean,

00:35:36.340 it's a one party state at this point posing as a parliamentary democracy. Uh, correct. Yeah. We

00:35:41.640 have a similar uniparty problem where the NDP and the liberals work together and help each other out

00:35:48.100 in order to stay in power and the conservatives lie down and take it. Does that sound familiar?

00:35:55.080 So I guess what you're saying, everything in Canada is a pale imitation of the United States.

00:36:00.000 Yeah. It's a much more fake and pale. Yes.

00:36:04.340 Is there hope?

00:36:06.980 Oh man, that's a good question. Um, I, I, I don't know if there's like any political hope to this.

00:36:13.440 Um, obviously, um, Western civilization is kind of in some very rough times at the moment and,

00:36:20.280 you know, going through something of a crisis of meaning. And I don't, I don't know if there's

00:36:24.980 any political solutions to this. Like people need to start looking into themselves.

00:36:28.980 Well, I agree with that. And speaking of that, and I'm not saying that the Canadian

00:36:32.960 government's under demonic control, but hundreds of churches were burned, have been burned hundreds.

00:36:38.260 Right.

00:36:39.000 Churches.

00:36:39.580 Yes.

00:36:40.100 Under Justin Trudeau, he's done nothing. He approves of it.

00:36:43.700 Um, so not very much was done about it. And well, you know what his associates in the NDP are doing?

00:36:50.320 They have proposed legislation to make the discussion of those church burnings and the

00:36:57.500 residential school program illegal. You either accept the government's narrative about the

00:37:03.220 residential schools program, which led to all these church burnings, or you're going to go to jail.

00:37:08.400 They're going to make it akin to Holocaust denial to actually question the residential schools.

00:37:13.960 First of all, any historical event can be questioned legitimately, any event, and reassessed in light

00:37:21.540 of new evidence, existing evidence reinterpreted. I mean, that is history.

00:37:26.320 Correct.

00:37:27.180 So anybody who criminalizes or uses force to discourage an assessment of any historical event

00:37:33.440 is acting on behalf of evil and deception, of course, by definition. So like we know that.

00:37:37.560 Right. Yeah. The NDP are evil. I, I have no time for those guys. They used to be a pro worker

00:37:44.180 party, but now they're mostly sort of woke and they represent government employees and that's about

00:37:51.100 it.

00:37:53.520 Um, last question. We're going to Canada trying to make some attempt to liberate it. Um,

00:38:01.200 good luck and non non-violently. Yes. Uh, but it, you know, I think there are a lot of decent

00:38:06.220 Canadians and again, it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. It deserves to live in freedom

00:38:11.640 and peace and not in rapid, disgusting decline. Um, what kind of reception do you think we'll get

00:38:17.860 in Canada?

00:38:18.340 I think when you go to these events in Calgary and Edmonton, um, you're going to have a very large

00:38:25.640 crowds because you do have fans in Canada. There are people who really do desire the truth

00:38:31.780 and understand what's at stake. So I think you're going to have some pretty big crowds,

00:38:38.240 but if we show up and announce we're here to liberate Canada, what do you think will happen?

00:38:44.760 Well, given that it's Alberta, you'll, you'll get a good reception from the locals. The rest of the

00:38:49.240 country, uh, of course, you know, their hair is going to start on fire and they're going to freak 0.91

00:38:53.500 out. Good mission accomplished. No, the real mission is liberating the great nation of Canada from

00:39:00.120 itself. Right. And you know, um, I think like a joint operation between the South Dakota National

00:39:06.440 Guard and the New Hampshire and Maine National Guards maybe could probably do it given like

00:39:11.760 Canada's military's also in a shambles. So yeah, bring it on. I don't think there's any quite,

00:39:17.000 I don't think it would require three state National Guards to liberate Canada by force.

00:39:21.060 Uh, but who knows, you know, it's going to be a dynamic year.

00:39:23.260 Corey Miguel, thank you so much for spending this time with us.

00:39:25.680 Thank you for having me.

00:39:26.320 Great to meet you.

00:39:26.960 Appreciate it.

00:39:27.360 Thank you.

00:39:30.120 Thank you.

The Tucker Carlson Show - January 24, 2024

Gord Magill

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