The Tucker Carlson Show - October 11, 2024


Harmeet Dhillon: The Shocking Origin Story of Kamala Harris and All the Crimes She’s Committed


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With less than a month to go before the mid-term primary election, we take a look at the life and career of Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential candidate running for the Senate seat currently held by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts). In this episode, we speak with attorney James O'Keefe, who first met Kamala in 2003 and has been with her since the beginning of her political career. He talks about how she became a lawyer, her early life growing up in the streets of Oakland, California, and how she went on to become one of the most powerful women in the country. He also talks about why she decided to run for office and why she thinks she has a chance to win in November. Tune in to learn more about Kamala and her life, and why it s important to remember who she really is and what she s all about. You can catch up on our newest documentary, Line in the Sand, starting October 10th, premiering only on TCN on October 10, 2019. You can sign up to watch Line In The Sand starting on October 9, 2019, only on the TCN Network streaming channel, where you get access to the entire documentary and access all of the episodes starting on the 10th and 11th of every month. You won t be able to access Line in-depth coverage of the documentary starting on The Tucker Carlson Show wherever you get your favorite streaming service. Thanks for listening! -Tucker Carlson Logo by Courtney DeKane. Music by PSOVOD, produced and produced by Riley Bray. and edited by Kaitlynneat&rews. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Tucker Carlson Podcast. -The Tucker Show is a production of Gimlet Media and we hope you enjoy the show and share it with your friends and family and friends. Thank you so much for all of your support and support the show! -Kamala Harris and her supporters everywhere else, thank you for all your support, we really really appreciate it. -Tuckercarlsonson@tuckerclarencecrarlson.co.co - Thank you, kim@tuckcarlson -p&p&t=a&p=1&q=3&q&a&qid=8&qtrk=3 &qtr=1s&qref=1 KAMALA Harris


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00:00:48.180 So you are roughly, you're younger than Kamala Harris, but in the same generation.
00:00:55.140 You're an attorney.
00:00:56.980 You're from San Francisco.
00:00:58.760 You first ran into Kamala Harris in 2003, 21 years ago.
00:01:03.460 You know everyone in her orbit.
00:01:05.220 You live in the same world.
00:01:07.280 And so with less than a month to go before the campaign,
00:01:10.560 I thought it'd be interesting to hear the perspective of someone
00:01:13.940 who actually knows a lot about Kamala Harris's life.
00:01:16.820 There don't seem to be many of those.
00:01:18.920 So thank you for doing this.
00:01:22.340 Who is Kamala Harris exactly?
00:01:24.020 Well, you see the words, comma, chameleon, and, you know, nicknames like that applied to her today.
00:01:33.700 Yes.
00:01:34.060 And she really has been kind of a shapeshifter throughout her entire career and existence.
00:01:39.400 I would call her in some ways a survivor.
00:01:41.780 You know, she's had a number of different environments,
00:01:44.480 sort of growing up in Oakland to two university professors as a small kid.
00:01:51.000 And then after a divorce, her mom took her and her sister Maya to Canada,
00:01:56.800 where she went to high school and then started college there.
00:02:00.460 Yeah.
00:02:00.780 And then she, you know, came as a, almost an adult to the United States
00:02:07.240 and went to Howard University and sort of immersed herself in that culture of the predominantly black college.
00:02:16.220 And then she came to San Francisco where she went to Hastings in the Tenderloin area of San Francisco.
00:02:23.760 So educationally, she's kind of traveled all over the United States.
00:02:27.720 But she spent her high school years in Canada.
00:02:30.740 In Canada.
00:02:31.300 Yeah.
00:02:31.460 She spent her high school years in Canada and, you know, not in San Francisco.
00:02:36.720 And so I think one of the interesting things that I found when looking at her background
00:02:40.900 is the first time she registered to vote was at age 29.
00:02:45.780 So...
00:02:46.140 Really?
00:02:46.760 Yeah.
00:02:47.180 So many years after coming to the United States and during the year that she dated our former mayor
00:02:54.000 and speaker, Willie Brown, is the year that she registered to vote.
00:02:57.420 And so connecting the dots, it seems like that might be the time when she decided that politics
00:03:02.580 is in her future because, you know, she began to create a voting record and setting down roots
00:03:09.680 at that time.
00:03:10.240 But she hadn't registered to vote before she was almost 30.
00:03:11.640 There's no record of her having registered to vote until she was almost 30, which is,
00:03:15.920 you know, I have nieces and nephews and I urge them to get educated and register to vote
00:03:21.400 and get active.
00:03:22.780 And so, you know, it's kind of an important thing.
00:03:25.700 So well after she became an attorney, well after she became a prosecutor, she hadn't
00:03:31.220 registered to vote.
00:03:32.360 Well, that's interesting.
00:03:33.380 11 years.
00:03:34.280 Yeah.
00:03:34.580 She was eligible.
00:03:35.520 Yeah.
00:03:36.160 Yep.
00:03:37.060 And that's interesting, not because everyone has to vote, in my opinion, but because she's
00:03:41.940 described herself repeatedly in public as a child activist.
00:03:45.980 Yeah.
00:03:46.540 She was basically leading the March on Washington.
00:03:48.140 She single-handedly desegregated the American South.
00:03:50.700 Right.
00:03:50.940 You know, she was always into politics.
00:03:53.060 She was a warrior for freedom.
00:03:54.400 You know, early on.
00:03:58.800 There was, just for the record, there was no segregation in this country.
00:04:01.520 Yeah.
00:04:01.840 I mean, her mom was interviewed many years ago before she passed away and tells a story
00:04:07.140 about how, where they were growing up in Montreal, in the apartment complex where they lived.
00:04:14.580 Apparently, children weren't allowed to play outside.
00:04:18.120 So Kamala Harris single-handedly protested this and organized and forced the apartment
00:04:24.840 building to allow children to be able to play outdoors.
00:04:29.980 So she was annoying as a child.
00:04:31.280 She was a, she was a, she was a, you know, activist as a child, according to her mom, but
00:04:36.460 then, you know, didn't exercise the most basic form of United States citizen activism
00:04:43.580 by exercising the franchise until much later in life.
00:04:48.320 And after she was a lawyer, how did she become a lawyer?
00:04:51.600 Well, she became a lawyer, went to UC Hastings in downtown San Francisco, did not pass the
00:04:58.000 bar the first time she took it, did pass it the second time around, and got her first
00:05:03.440 job after that as a prosecutor in Alameda County.
00:05:08.500 So in Alameda County, she eventually specialized in child sex crimes, you know, an important
00:05:15.420 job.
00:05:18.200 And according to research that was done by some of her opposition when she ran for district
00:05:23.640 attorney in 2003, she tried something like eight cases that they can prove there during
00:05:29.320 her eight years or so as a prosecutor in Alameda County.
00:05:34.560 So I lack perspective on this.
00:05:36.260 Is that a lot?
00:05:37.040 A little?
00:05:37.500 It's very little.
00:05:38.300 Very little.
00:05:38.880 For somebody who's claimed today in all of her public appearances to have been a, you
00:05:45.280 know, lifelong law enforcement officer and prosecutor.
00:05:47.500 And when she ran for district attorney claimed to have tried hundreds of cases, she actually,
00:05:54.660 according to what I've been able to dig up and what her opposition dug up on her in 2003,
00:05:59.620 which she never refuted, two cases in San Francisco during the two years that she worked at the DA's
00:06:05.140 office before quitting and then planning her run against her boss, eight in the Alameda County
00:06:12.860 district attorney's office.
00:06:13.900 So she basically held those two jobs as a prosecutor.
00:06:18.360 Now, Terrence Hallinan, let's setting the stage of my meeting her in San Francisco.
00:06:23.260 So San Francisco had a very progressive prosecutor.
00:06:26.320 I think he was elected in 2006, sorry, 1996 or so named Terrence Hallinan.
00:06:31.480 Famous person in California.
00:06:32.840 Famous guy.
00:06:33.640 He was one of some brothers.
00:06:36.240 Yeah.
00:06:36.600 My departed husband served on the board of the Liberal Pacifica radio station with one of the
00:06:43.200 other Hallinan brothers.
00:06:44.340 So, you know, they were kind of regulars in the left-wing activist circles in San Francisco.
00:06:51.720 And Hallinan promised to be a progressive prosecutor.
00:06:55.060 And, you know, he came on board and was a progressive prosecutor, would, you know, serve soup at the soup
00:07:00.320 kitchens and things like that.
00:07:02.200 Kind of old school liberal.
00:07:03.780 And that said, he was tough on murders and tough on the serious crimes, but it was the lower level drug dealers and so forth, that quality of life crimes that he was a little bit softer on.
00:07:15.460 But he recruited Kamala Harris, or hired her anyway, and hired her out of the Alameda County District Attorney's Office.
00:07:25.760 And during that campaign in 2003, he actually said that he did it as a favor to the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown.
00:07:36.760 But there's a mixed record on that.
00:07:38.800 But he gave her her chance to move from the job she was in, which was sort of, you know, Alameda County's not San Francisco.
00:07:46.220 You know, San Francisco's the big leagues where all the glamorous stuff happens in the Bay Area and where we had two United States senators from there.
00:07:54.800 A lot of the top brass in California that's now infecting the United States came from San Francisco County.
00:08:02.840 So, she was a step up to go to be a prosecutor in the big city there in San Francisco.
00:08:07.440 So, she got her opportunity to move over there.
00:08:10.460 And she was the head of the criminal organization's five-person unit after being there for a bit of time.
00:08:21.660 And so, you know, it was five people she was in charge of, but she was passed over for chief of staff, which is the number two position in the district attorney's office on two occasions.
00:08:30.460 And, you know, as soon as she got there, she began making her mark and setting her eyes on her political career.
00:08:35.520 Okay. So, starting around age 29, again, when she moved to San Francisco, she started dating the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown.
00:08:45.680 While he was mayor?
00:08:46.540 While he was mayor.
00:08:47.780 And he had been the speaker of the assembly.
00:08:50.800 He was maybe the most powerful machine politician in Democrat politics.
00:08:57.280 Willie Brown and John Burton ran San Francisco.
00:09:01.360 They had a political machine, and to win election in that town, their stamp of approval was necessary.
00:09:08.580 And they really had a, I mean, not a complete control, but they were the most formidable block to get ahead in San Francisco.
00:09:16.120 So, they kind of approved who got to be on the board of supervisors who, you know, really ran for all these different positions and handed out patronage jobs in the city.
00:09:24.740 And so, the fastest way to ascend in politics there is to be tied to the coattails of Willie Brown.
00:09:33.880 And so, you know, she did that, and I don't know what-
00:09:36.460 Well, more tied, more than tied to the coattails.
00:09:38.580 I mean, she's sleeping with him, right?
00:09:39.960 Yeah, I mean, she dated him.
00:09:40.720 Yeah.
00:09:40.940 That's how he describes it.
00:09:42.420 He is still married at the time.
00:09:44.260 And so, he's 90 today, but he was married throughout this time that he was together with her for two years.
00:09:49.860 Okay, and so, they were a society couple, and they went to all the operas, ballets, black tie events very openly.
00:09:58.000 And, you know, I've met Willie Brown several times.
00:09:59.800 He just, you know, that's not disputed that he gave her her start in politics and almost certainly encouraged her, hey, maybe you should register to vote.
00:10:08.360 That might be a good start.
00:10:11.920 Certainly, how to move up in the ranks.
00:10:15.020 And so, one of the ways you do that is you get started with some lower-level elective office.
00:10:20.360 But even before that, a lot of our politicians in Congress and in the Senate and, you know, former presidents have been lawyers.
00:10:28.340 It's a great stepping stone to a political career.
00:10:32.220 So, getting a good record in the DA's office would have been a way to do that.
00:10:37.660 So, she, you know, hustled her way into the district attorney's office and immediately began setting her sights on her power base.
00:10:46.860 So, she developed relationships in the African-American community, became friendly with Amos Brown, a notorious pastor and activist in the Bayview Hunters Point District, where there's a large African-American population there.
00:11:02.880 And, you know, it's one of the rougher parts of town where the projects are.
00:11:07.280 A lot of the drug and gang violence was centered in that area.
00:11:10.400 And so, she tried to make that her patch.
00:11:12.900 And her theme was, you know, supposedly hard on crime, but not in an unfair, disproportionate way on the African-American community.
00:11:23.420 So, as you know, during that time, the 1990s, there was a lot of discussion in our country about harsh drug laws and disproportionate impact on African-Americans.
00:11:33.400 And so, she kind of focused her efforts on that.
00:11:37.440 And that was her assignment was criminal organizations, basically gangs.
00:11:42.080 Okay.
00:11:42.280 So, she was a gang and drug prosecutor, not a murder prosecutor, not a violent crime prosecutor.
00:11:48.540 She never was that in her jobs before she became the district attorney.
00:11:53.000 So, she wanted those jobs, according to reporting at the time.
00:11:58.200 She wanted to be moved up to the more serious responsibilities of violent crime and murder prosecutor.
00:12:05.320 But she never was given that opportunity by Terrence Halinan, who I think, reading between the lines, began to suspect that she was gunning for his job pretty early on.
00:12:16.040 So, after she was passed over a couple of times for the top lieutenant position in the district attorney's office, she quit.
00:12:25.180 She quit and she went immediately sideways to the city attorney's office in San Francisco, which is also a prominent breeding ground for some excellent judges.
00:12:37.080 So, she moved sideways after less than two years at the district attorney's office to the city attorney's office, where she put together a portfolio involving child welfare and, you know, sort of juvenile offenders.
00:13:02.420 You know, that sort of a thing.
00:13:04.520 Again, I would call it a pretty fluffy portfolio, but something that's designed to give her something to talk about if she runs for office.
00:13:12.340 And so, for two or three years, she spent her time there at the city attorney's office.
00:13:16.800 Again, by the way, all on the, you know, public employment.
00:13:20.640 She's never had a job in the private sector.
00:13:23.180 Ever?
00:13:23.620 Ever.
00:13:23.880 Ever.
00:13:25.160 And so...
00:13:25.680 Pamela Harris has been living on taxpayer money her entire...
00:13:29.040 Her entire career.
00:13:31.500 That's correct.
00:13:32.180 She's never had a private sector job.
00:13:35.480 Now, let me pause for a second.
00:13:37.320 While she was doing some of these jobs, she actually was doing multiple jobs on paper.
00:13:42.240 Because Willie Brown, one of the positions that you get access to when you're the speaker, and then you pretty much continue to have a lot of access to over the years, is the ability to appoint people to patronage jobs.
00:13:57.440 And so, before he, you know, kind of left the speaker's office, he was able to appoint her to one of two commissions.
00:14:06.420 So, she was on a taxpayer-funded commission called the Unemployment Appeals Board.
00:14:13.780 And so, you hear appeals of denials of unemployment benefits.
00:14:18.400 That's a cushy part-time job, which pays almost $100,000 salary.
00:14:23.340 You show up a couple of days a month.
00:14:24.620 And then he also got her appointed to a second sort of part-time job, very part-time, a couple of days a month again, something called the Medical Assistance Commission, which was dealing with Medi-Cal contracts and appeals over that.
00:14:43.720 And so, over the years that she was taking a salary as first an Alameda County Prosecutor and then a San Francisco County Prosecutor, she earned an additional over $400,000 over a five-year period from these low-show slash no-show jobs.
00:15:03.380 He also got her a BMW as a gift.
00:15:06.500 And so...
00:15:07.680 Willie Brown gave Kamala Harris a BMW?
00:15:10.860 He gave her a BMW, and he got her these extra hundreds of thousands of dollars of jobs.
00:15:15.520 And to give you some perspective, the salary of a prosecutor around that time was about $100,000.
00:15:20.820 So, she basically got double or triple what her colleagues were getting.
00:15:25.100 So, imagine the morale in the office when your person sitting next to you is also dating the mayor and also is making hundreds of thousands of dollars more than you because...
00:15:35.380 And getting a free BMW.
00:15:36.120 And getting a free BMW.
00:15:37.540 So, she was marked out as privileged in her 20s and 30s very early on.
00:15:42.060 And that allowed her to leap over the career hurdles that those of us who work for a living in the private sector have to actually earn.
00:15:50.620 Right?
00:15:51.240 And I think it's...
00:15:52.380 And, you know, she's had to face these criticisms over time.
00:15:55.640 I mean, she's become very glib and good at deflecting the criticism.
00:16:02.540 But I don't think it's disputable that the extra income and, more importantly, the patronage that she enjoyed in her 20s and early 30s made her the person who's, you know, the vice president of the United States today and seeking the top job.
00:16:21.820 Not merit, but influence peddling and using her female wiles.
00:16:27.680 And just all the sleaze and corruption that inevitably arises in a one-party state like California.
00:16:33.960 You know, multiplied by 100 when you're dating the most, you know, powerful person there.
00:16:39.640 And even after she broke up with him, as the story goes, because she realized that he was never going to make her a wife.
00:16:47.760 She continued that strong relationship.
00:16:50.580 And to this day, you know, Willie Brown has endorsed her and is, you know, out there helping her raise money.
00:16:57.120 And so she had broken up with him by the time she ran for district attorney.
00:17:02.380 But he was instrumental in helping her raise hundreds of thousands of dollars and eventually winning in that position.
00:17:08.880 Willie Brown has a reputation for the last 60 years for corruption.
00:17:14.760 I'm not alleging a specific crime.
00:17:17.160 He was a jailhouse lawyer for years, representing radicals of various kinds.
00:17:23.920 But he has a reputation for corruption.
00:17:27.240 Is that fair to say?
00:17:28.180 Oh, absolutely.
00:17:29.280 And even specifically in this district attorney race.
00:17:33.460 So I'll break that down for you.
00:17:35.980 So Terrence Hallinan was a mixed bag.
00:17:40.600 He was the district attorney for, you know, the one who Kamala Harris replaced.
00:17:44.280 And so, but he was tough on corruption.
00:17:51.600 Okay.
00:17:52.400 So there was some corruption in the police department in San Francisco.
00:17:56.020 The SFPD had a scandal called Fajita Gate, where some cops got into a beef with some street vendors over some fajitas.
00:18:04.820 You know, it's kind of a silly beginning of the story.
00:18:09.300 But the end of that story is that Terrence Hallinan brought charges against the police chief, his deputy, and some other cops involved in this scandal.
00:18:20.240 Okay.
00:18:20.680 Well, Willie Brown didn't like this.
00:18:24.240 You know, he had put all these people, basically, everybody in the top jobs in San Francisco owed it in some way to Willie Brown.
00:18:30.560 And so Willie Brown was able to get stuff done in the city as a lobbyist and as a fixer, and particularly for the real estate industry, by controlling a lot of the elected officials and the law enforcement in San Francisco.
00:18:46.920 There were corruption investigations that Terrence Hallinan was looking at regarding some of this power structure in San Francisco.
00:18:56.700 And so by replacing Terrence Hallinan, Willie Brown, through his agent of Kamala Harris, was able to put an end to some of these investigations.
00:19:06.980 These investigations were quietly dropped.
00:19:09.240 The Fajita Gate thing quietly went away.
00:19:11.540 The case collapsed.
00:19:13.040 And the police who were accused of wrongdoing were never held accountable.
00:19:18.400 But because of that investigation and indictments that were brought by Terrence Hallinan, you know, that began some friction.
00:19:26.660 That continued some friction.
00:19:28.600 The police were also frustrated at Hallinan's failure to take drug dealers off the streets.
00:19:33.400 So Willie Brown, through that dint of getting his former mistress the DA job by helping her raise money, getting her key endorsements from the socialites, the Getty family and all the top families in San Francisco who backed her, the founder of North Face and others.
00:19:54.160 The Getty family would be the patrons of Gavin Newsom, now the governor.
00:19:58.040 Gavin Newsom's patrons and the patrons, I mean, I think they're supporters of Kamala Harris and others.
00:20:03.280 They've supported every major Democrat elite in California.
00:20:08.140 And so, you know, they're Pacific Heights establishment, noblesse, oblige there.
00:20:16.560 Pacific Heights being one of the richest neighborhoods in San Francisco.
00:20:19.460 Absolutely.
00:20:19.700 And so, fundraisers, glittering events, black tie events, patrons of the arts, you know, these are the folks, these are the circles that Kamala Harris moved in through Willie Brown's assistance.
00:20:31.960 And so, Willie Brown was able to put an end to pesky investigations into corruption in San Francisco and misconduct by the police department by getting Kamala Harris installed over there.
00:20:46.420 So, everything became smooth again when she became the district attorney and stayed that way under control for many years while she was the district attorney until she ran for attorney general.
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00:22:22.060 During this period, how did she pronounce her first name?
00:22:39.260 And I ask because she's on video pronouncing it Kamala and Kamela.
00:22:44.600 Two different ways.
00:22:45.700 Um, so, I remember her putting the emphasis on the second syllable, so it was like Kamala.
00:22:52.760 Kamala.
00:22:53.200 Kamala was how she pronounced it.
00:22:55.200 Not Kamala.
00:22:55.940 Not Kamala.
00:22:56.680 Kamala is actually how Indians pronounce it.
00:23:01.320 The name derives from the word for lotus in Sanskrit, which is Komal.
00:23:06.980 So, uh...
00:23:08.080 Really?
00:23:08.540 Yeah.
00:23:09.100 And so, you know, that is how you're supposed to pronounce it.
00:23:12.240 Is it a conventional name?
00:23:13.240 It's a conventional name, absolutely.
00:23:16.540 And it's a Brahmin.
00:23:18.960 She's from a Brahmin family.
00:23:20.440 Her mother is Brahmin, and so, you know, high caste background.
00:23:23.600 I thought she was oppressed.
00:23:25.400 Well, she's a shapeshifter, like I said.
00:23:29.080 So, although, you know, I saw an explanation in one of these liberal publications trying to explain how throughout most of her career,
00:23:37.580 she's passed as African American and not mixed race, because, of course, not until Tiger Woods became prominent did people parse out their differences in their racial background.
00:23:50.240 So, you know, it was suggested that she had to pick one or the other early in her career, and she largely identified as African American.
00:23:58.960 And so, she really focused on the African American community in San Francisco.
00:24:04.180 She identified as African American.
00:24:04.980 Did she live in a black neighborhood?
00:24:06.320 Did she live in Hunters Point?
00:24:07.640 She did not live in Hunters Point.
00:24:09.320 Oh, she did?
00:24:09.740 Yeah, no.
00:24:10.120 She lived in a nice condo in the south of Market in the ballpark area.
00:24:13.420 In a white neighborhood, right.
00:24:14.380 Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:15.000 But she was, quote, focused on the African American.
00:24:16.560 She was focused on the African American community.
00:24:19.360 Now, I've read just about everything that's been written about her, and back in that time period,
00:24:24.800 Willie Brown actually got one of his political clients and patrons to rent her campaign headquarters in Bayview Hunters Point.
00:24:33.680 Not where she lived and not where the courthouse is, but she had her campaign headquarters in that African American neighborhood at well below market rent from a connection of Willie Brown's.
00:24:45.180 It's unbelievable.
00:24:45.740 Yeah, and it's pretty blatant.
00:24:47.840 Rewind just for one moment.
00:24:50.260 She, it's without, it's not controversial to say, because it's factually, it's provable.
00:24:55.860 She has pronounced her own first name at least two different ways.
00:24:59.300 I think three or four different ways.
00:25:00.800 Three or four different ways.
00:25:01.420 So, if we can just, like, consider for a moment how weird that is.
00:25:06.260 You have a non-Anglo first name.
00:25:07.820 Yeah.
00:25:08.160 Hermit.
00:25:08.700 That's right.
00:25:10.020 Indian name, I assume.
00:25:11.060 It's been pronounced consistently.
00:25:12.700 Right.
00:25:13.080 Since childhood, yeah.
00:25:14.300 By you, because it's your name.
00:25:15.980 That's my name.
00:25:16.720 Yeah.
00:25:17.200 And I haven't pretended to be different things over the years.
00:25:20.220 But how, have you ever met anyone who's pronounced his or her own first name different ways over a period of time?
00:25:27.380 No, I really haven't.
00:25:28.400 And it was striking to me, when she was running for district attorney is when I first met her.
00:25:35.160 And I had a, you know, I was new to San Francisco.
00:25:37.140 I just moved to San Francisco in 2003.
00:25:39.280 I'd been, I came to California in 2000 and I, you know, during the dot-com boom and I went down to Silicon Valley.
00:25:45.920 I practiced law there and then I moved to San Francisco in 2003.
00:25:48.860 I was new to town.
00:25:49.840 So, I had a friend from the South Asian Bar Association who'd practiced with her in the DA's office in Alameda County who was, you know, helping her with her DA run.
00:25:57.440 And so, I went to this fundraiser, I was new to town and, you know, Kamala Harris walks into the fundraiser.
00:26:03.620 It was all Indian Americans at this particular fundraiser.
00:26:06.140 And so, she was, you know, she was all business, no nonsense, strides into the room wearing a designer outfit well beyond her means as a district attorney, assistant district attorney, or at that time city attorney employee.
00:26:19.020 Like, four-inch heels, you know, strides confidently into the room and begins telling us why she's going to be the better candidate than Terrence Hallinan, who was running for re-election.
00:26:29.820 And I recall from that meeting, you know, she was really focused on process.
00:26:33.540 She didn't really have a policy difference with Terrence Hallinan.
00:26:37.100 She has also always painted herself as a progressive, but tough on crime, but progressive prosecutor.
00:26:44.020 Okay.
00:26:44.320 So, she talked a lot about how the computers in the district attorney's office were outdated and, you know, we really needed to professionalize the office.
00:26:53.900 I mean, who could argue with that, right?
00:26:55.320 I mean, of course, the district attorney's office in a major American city should have up-to-date computers.
00:27:00.100 I mean, I had them in my law firm practice.
00:27:02.300 And so, that sounded good.
00:27:03.940 And, you know, she also criticized Hallinan for being soft on crime, which in retrospect is not fair because she had a much worse record than him in prosecuting violent crime.
00:27:15.820 But I'll get to that.
00:27:17.100 But, you know, she really portrayed herself as just being the younger, more competent, liberal, but tough on crime prosecutor.
00:27:26.300 And so, she was planning to prosecute marijuana and drug offenses.
00:27:31.720 She was planning to prosecute, you know, all these quality of life crimes that Hallinan allegedly wasn't prosecuting.
00:27:38.280 And so, that was her selling point in this fundraiser.
00:27:42.740 But when I saw her in other settings, you know, she didn't identify with the Indian American community at all.
00:27:48.860 And so, I saw her in South Asian Bar Association events after she became the district attorney and otherwise.
00:27:54.720 And so, when she came into an event where there were Indian Americans there, like a South Asian lawyers event, she was all, you know, namaste and, you know, all of that.
00:28:04.100 But you never saw that outside that setting, right?
00:28:06.780 She didn't do that in Hunter's Point.
00:28:07.880 She didn't do that in Hunter's Point.
00:28:08.500 She didn't do any namastes at all?
00:28:09.820 There was no namaste in Hunter's Point.
00:28:13.740 That would have been hilarious.
00:28:15.260 No.
00:28:15.520 So, that's fake.
00:28:17.760 And I immediately saw that when I saw her in more than one setting, that this woman is just pandering to whoever is in front of her, which is, of course, you and I have been around a lot of politicians over the years.
00:28:28.060 That's a common theme in politics, right?
00:28:30.040 But the extent to which she was willing to just adopt an abandoned persona was truly striking.
00:28:35.940 Well, and it's the self-righteousness, too.
00:28:36.980 I mean, you know, of course, every politician panders.
00:28:39.000 I think people pander to each other.
00:28:40.800 It's all very common and very human.
00:28:42.500 But when caught, you know, you don't scream at the other person and call that person a racist for noticing, which is exactly her response.
00:28:51.500 I mean, Trump made that point.
00:28:52.520 It was a totally fair point.
00:28:53.740 I thought she was Indian.
00:28:54.720 Now she's black.
00:28:55.560 Well, sounds like he had reason to say that.
00:28:58.640 All of a sudden, shut up, racist.
00:29:00.420 Absolutely.
00:29:01.160 Well, let me pick up on that for a second.
00:29:02.600 So it's been really striking in this campaign for president.
00:29:06.580 And even when she ran for president in 2019 and 2020, how she's very self-righteous about being in law enforcement and, you know, a top cop and a border cop and just like this law enforcement icon.
00:29:21.600 But she actually began her career in politics by breaking the law on multiple occasions.
00:29:27.620 And so this dates back even to before she ran for the district attorney position.
00:29:32.700 In 2000, Willie Brown asked her to take a break from her job at the city attorney's office, take a little leave of absence, and do some work for Amos Brown, this notorious pastor who was running for re-election for the Board of Supervisors.
00:29:53.060 And Amos Brown was representing that African-American community, and he was one of Willie Brown's people, right?
00:30:01.520 And so she had no background in politics or anything, but, you know, he thought, well, this is a good way for you to learn the ropes of how a campaign is run.
00:30:08.880 And it is a good way.
00:30:10.200 Volunteering for a campaign is a good way to do that.
00:30:12.540 She wasn't a volunteer, though.
00:30:13.880 That's the key point.
00:30:14.740 She was paid as a political consultant by Amos Brown's campaign, but she never registered under city law, which requires all political consultants who are paid by a campaign more than $1,000 to register.
00:30:29.380 And so she was paid, I think, almost $10,000 during this time she worked there.
00:30:35.440 She never registered.
00:30:36.460 She was called out on it, and she skated.
00:30:40.360 She explained she didn't know the rules, and, you know, she hadn't really intended anything, and so I think a fine or some penalty was paid at that point.
00:30:48.840 And that was the beginning of simply giving the middle finger to the law by Kamala Harris.
00:30:55.280 She created—she got herself embroiled in a much bigger scandal when she ran for district attorney.
00:31:01.400 So in San Francisco, like many of our liberal cities in California, there's campaign finance matching funds that are available, but there's also a benefit that you get if you agree to voluntarily cap your raising and spending.
00:31:16.140 At the time, for mayor, I think it was a little bit higher, but for district attorney and mayor, it might have been the same.
00:31:22.420 It was $211,000.
00:31:24.380 So if you agreed to cap your raising and spending at $211,000 in 2003, you got a statement published in the voter guide that's mailed to all the almost half a million voters in San Francisco, registered voters, saying that you had voluntarily agreed to confine yourself to that spending cap.
00:31:43.020 So it's like a level playing field, and it's a little bit of a gold star that you're agreeing not to engage in corruption, wasteful spending, cronyism by raising money from all kinds of unknown sources.
00:31:55.060 So she agreed to that.
00:31:56.260 She filed a piece of paper.
00:31:57.300 She signed it under penalty of perjury, saying, I, Kamala Harris, agree to this voluntary spending limit.
00:32:03.500 The other—most of the other candidates in the race and candidates for mayor during that race, they also agreed to that spending limit.
00:32:10.320 Okay, so most of the candidates running for office in California—San Francisco, rather—agreed to that spending limit.
00:32:17.580 Well, it turns out that Kamala Harris, who, by the way, started out in this campaign third, behind her boss, Terrence Hallinan, who was in the lead, and then a guy named Vic Fazio, who was a former prosecutor, then defense attorney, who was going to be the hard-on-crime guy.
00:32:35.860 He was eventually endorsed by the Republicans in San Francisco.
00:32:39.460 So she was third.
00:32:40.560 She was the underdog.
00:32:41.840 And so she quickly—she was getting no traction at first.
00:32:44.280 So she realized she was going to have to really supercharge her spending.
00:32:47.940 Willie Brown helped her with this.
00:32:49.340 Willie Brown also helped raise money for independent expenditures to support her as well.
00:32:54.420 So it's a funny story, but, you know, one of her campaign themes was that she was going to be tough on drugs, tough on marijuana.
00:33:05.640 And back in 2003, marijuana wasn't—the recreational use of marijuana was not legal in California.
00:33:12.780 And so she was going to be tough on pot.
00:33:14.920 So apparently some pot activists who didn't like this, you know, they were pouring over the campaign finance records.
00:33:23.420 And it's a pot activist who realized that Kamala Harris had raised over $300,000 and had spent over $300,000.
00:33:30.680 So this person went and let the other campaigns know.
00:33:34.580 They filed an ethics complaint against her.
00:33:37.220 And at the end of the election, she had spent over $600,000.
00:33:43.280 So triple the amount that she was allowed.
00:33:46.620 But thanks to hiring a good lawyer and making the excuse that, oh, the form changed.
00:33:52.040 I didn't really understand the meaning of this.
00:33:53.640 So please lift the cap.
00:33:55.740 She got the San Francisco Ethics Commission—and by the way, many of those people on the Ethics Commission owed their positions to Willie Brown.
00:34:04.500 She got them to look the other way on this gross violation.
00:34:07.520 It's a crime, by the way.
00:34:08.780 It could have been—she could have been prosecutor for a misdemeanor.
00:34:11.540 Had she been properly held accountable for this significant campaign finance violation, and anybody else would have.
00:34:21.400 But the Ethics Commission simply lifted the cap, which is not in the statute.
00:34:25.200 So instead of disqualifying her, which would have been the normal punishment, and prosecuting her, she simply got away with it.
00:34:33.300 So in her first race for elected office, she ignored the campaign finance limits.
00:34:42.280 She used corrupt patronage from her former lover to raise the money necessary to do the glossy ads.
00:34:50.220 I've got several examples here.
00:34:51.560 She did more mailers than all of the other candidates.
00:34:53.780 She had independent expenditures on her behalf.
00:34:56.280 And she simply was able to outspend and blow through these limits.
00:35:00.560 You've got an ad from her—the race in 2000—
00:35:03.720 Oh, yeah.
00:35:03.740 I have a lot of this material here from 2003.
00:35:08.520 And so this is all the people who endorsed her.
00:35:12.040 And this is all the main political machine there in San Francisco.
00:35:16.020 Now, one of those guys is in jail for—he's a former state senator, Leland Yee.
00:35:21.680 He was later indicted for—
00:35:23.580 The Reverend Cecil Williams.
00:35:25.360 Reverend Cecil Williams.
00:35:27.080 And he was involved with Jim Jones, but maybe I'm misremembering that.
00:35:31.180 There's a lot of blasts from the past over there.
00:35:36.240 Because she raised so much money, she was able to send multiple of these big, glossy mailers.
00:35:44.040 She's today's voice for justice.
00:35:47.380 Yeah, today's voice for justice, Kamala Harris for district attorney, you know, Aaron Peskin, Fiona Ma, you know, some of the shadiest politicians in California are here on her endorsement list.
00:36:00.380 Of course, Willie Brown, she was, you know, she checked all the boxes to get the gay community on board, the Asian community on board.
00:36:08.620 You know, she really put the coalition together thanks to the mentorship she enjoyed.
00:36:14.040 Here is Assemblyman Mark Leno.
00:36:15.980 No one is better prepared to lead our district attorney's office in this new era than Kamala Harris.
00:36:21.660 Well, they're actually—almost every prosecutor in that office was better prepared.
00:36:26.160 Terrence Hallinan was better prepared.
00:36:27.820 Vic Fazia was better prepared.
00:36:29.120 So, by simply outspending and violating the campaign finance cap, she was able to win this election.
00:36:37.880 She got it into the runoff, and then she was able to win in the runoff against her boss.
00:36:44.760 So, it was a pretty incredible upset.
00:36:46.620 This is another one of her glossy mayors, glossy mailers.
00:36:53.880 So, she's a veteran prosecutor with 13 years of courtroom experience and a 90% conviction rate.
00:37:00.320 She actually had only been a prosecutor for 10 years, and her conviction rate—I mean, you can manipulate any statistic you want by simply changing the numerator and the denominator.
00:37:13.120 And so, you know, it's pretty incredible that the birth of this meteoric career comes out of multiple campaign finance violations.
00:37:25.900 So, she won.
00:37:28.960 She won that race.
00:37:30.340 I mean, one of the mailers from the other side is a mailer from the Tenants Union, which was supporting Kamala Harris—sorry, supporting Terrence Hallinan.
00:37:43.640 And they pointed out that she had committed another violation, and that is soliciting money from landlords who she was supposed to be regulating in her job at the city attorney's office.
00:37:55.300 So, one of her jobs in the city attorney's office involved, you know, sort of the welfare of people who were on public assistance, and that included people in the SRO, single residence housing, and Section 8 housing.
00:38:10.640 She's big in San Francisco.
00:38:11.120 I mean, it's—a lot of our residents are on public assistance and live in this kind of housing.
00:38:16.220 And so, she happily took tens of thousands of dollars from slumlords, who she was supposed to be regulating, in this campaign.
00:38:25.360 And the Tenants Union—there's a mailer in here I have somewhere that talks about her taking money from the roach motels.
00:38:32.820 And, you know, they were able to put that one mailer out, but it ended up not convincing.
00:38:38.440 And San Francisco has more roach motels in any city in the United States.
00:38:40.980 I think per square foot, it's probably—
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00:40:41.280 So, Tucker, I mentioned to you that she blew through those campaign finance limits.
00:40:46.580 Yeah.
00:40:46.740 And she was given a pass if she issued corrective apology and disclosure to the public.
00:40:55.320 So, how she did that was she had a door hanger, and those of us who were involved in politics, you know, you go walk doors, you knock on the doors, and you hang a door hanger with your materials.
00:41:06.040 So, she replaced her door hanger with this Kamala Harris folded door hanger, and then in the tiniest possible print—
00:41:16.040 Would you like my glasses?
00:41:17.380 Yeah.
00:41:18.020 I'll put mine on.
00:41:19.420 Let me show you.
00:41:21.840 I mean, due to an error by the Kamala Harris campaign, the voter information pamphlet indicates that the campaign has agreed to voluntary limit campaign spending.
00:41:31.920 This is incorrect.
00:41:32.900 We take responsibility for this error.
00:41:34.980 Now, this is printed on the top of this hanger, so you hang it on the door.
00:41:40.060 No way.
00:41:40.880 The normal wage slave coming home from their actual job where they worked, you know, a full day, unlike Kamala Harris, would go and pull this off.
00:41:49.380 People who are not dating Willie Brown, you mean.
00:41:51.800 Those of us taxpayers who have private sector jobs, you come home, and the first thing you do with this annoying piece of crap is tear it off, right?
00:41:59.420 So, this is the part that would fall to the ground when you tear it off and maybe clutch your mail and take it.
00:42:04.100 And nobody read this, like, three-point disclosure on this thing.
00:42:08.120 And so, because her patronage boyfriend had fixed it for her, she got away with this.
00:42:15.700 Nobody else would be able to get away with this today, I can guarantee you.
00:42:18.860 And so, no shame, and that's how she got her start in politics, by breaking the rules.
00:42:25.360 And so, I mentioned to you these no-show jobs as well.
00:42:30.760 She had the lowest attendance record of any of the attendees of these two commissions either.
00:42:35.320 So, on top of having a job where she got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do very little, she didn't even show up and do that.
00:42:42.520 But there's one more fact about this.
00:42:44.300 You know, in the city attorney's office, they had to keep timesheets.
00:42:47.880 Now, you know a lot of lawyers.
00:42:49.640 You've gotten bills from lawyers.
00:42:52.500 Yes, I have.
00:42:54.460 We bill by the hour.
00:42:56.260 We're supposed to record our time in tenths of an hour, okay?
00:42:59.980 So, in the city attorney's office, you recorded your time that way.
00:43:05.320 And so, someone in one of these various campaigns she's been in over the years did a Public Records Act request for these hours.
00:43:12.380 And her predecessor in her job at the city attorney's office was a now, I think, retired or semi-retired judge, Catherine Feinstein, the daughter of Dianne Feinstein, the former United States senator.
00:43:26.540 So, Feinstein had the job and then Kamala Harris had the job.
00:43:29.880 So, if you compare their hours, you see that Kamala Harris, I think, worked one day over eight hours in all the three years that she worked there.
00:43:37.440 Dianne Feinstein's daughter regularly worked long, normal lawyer hours.
00:43:41.660 So, she worked one day over eight hours in how long?
00:43:44.760 Three years.
00:43:46.660 Yeah.
00:43:47.320 She's just lazy.
00:43:48.480 Yeah.
00:43:48.720 And there were a number of days where she had block eight hours, phone calls, research something, eight hours.
00:43:55.740 So, she didn't work full days in that job.
00:43:58.680 That's what any supervisor, I'm a supervisor of about 25 lawyers.
00:44:03.300 If I saw timesheets like that, I would call that person and I'd put them on probation because they clearly aren't working a full day's worth of work.
00:44:09.680 They're block billing, they're putting down time, they're doing a lot of admin time, days and days of admin time, meaning I didn't work that day, I read the newspaper, I did continuing legal education, I did some, you know, background research.
00:44:23.980 She did not work those full days.
00:44:26.820 That's what any supervising lawyer, being honest, would tell you.
00:44:31.080 So, that's pretty striking because as it is, you're, you know, only expected to work, you know, sort of nine to five, unlike those of us who are, you know, working in the private sector, working much harder to make a living and keep our jobs.
00:44:44.760 Yeah.
00:44:45.080 There's no such accountability in the jobs that she's held.
00:44:49.360 And so, when she ran for DA, she claimed, I've tried hundreds and hundreds of serious felony cases, and she got busted by the tenant's union saying, actually, you've tried 10 cases.
00:44:59.840 And then she had to sort of, over the years, own that maybe she was affiliated with hundreds of cases.
00:45:07.940 She didn't actually try them.
00:45:09.540 And look, as you get more senior as a lawyer, you don't try every case, I get it, but in those early years of your career, if you're billing yourself as a top cop and a top prosecutor, normally people do, but that is not Kamala Harris.
00:45:25.460 You have an excellent memory, well, in general, but for this period 20 years ago, and you were around Kamala Harris, living in that world, met her, all that.
00:45:38.240 When you see Kamala Harris now, does she seem like the same person to you?
00:45:42.560 So, this is interesting, Tucker.
00:45:44.100 I got the impression from the first time I met Kamala Harris when she strode into my friend's apartment in that small fundraiser of an extremely confident, competent, articulate person.
00:45:58.620 Now, I don't think she's a great lawyer, and I think she's hardly had much courtroom experience, but she exuded competence and confidence.
00:46:07.160 And the Kamala Harris you saw as vice president of the United States seems to be a completely different person, inarticulate, lacking confidence, almost like dazed or medicated in some way.
00:46:26.040 And I don't know that, of course, I'm just telling you that the impression of somebody extremely competent and confident and able to talk about their record, their recent record, even falsely, with a degree of confidence and bravado, there's a couple of dynamics there.
00:46:44.500 First of all, I think the record that she's been running on is way in the past.
00:46:49.220 And so, it's become part of her own personal hagiography that she's, you know, this brilliant, accomplished, stunning, you know, top cop who criminals quake in their boots to see her.
00:47:02.080 That's not true, but, you know, she's adopted it, but it's also way in the past.
00:47:05.920 But secondly, it feels like she's not able to articulate herself.
00:47:11.780 There seems to be a veil of inability to string together complete and coherent sentences.
00:47:19.100 She seems afraid to me.
00:47:20.740 And you saw it in the opening moments of her debate with Trump, where I thought she did well as the debate continued.
00:47:27.480 But in the opening moments, it's worth looking at the tape again.
00:47:30.580 You see her eyes.
00:47:31.680 This woman's terrified.
00:47:32.380 There, maybe it's imposter syndrome.
00:47:35.980 I don't know what it is, but.
00:47:37.840 Can you explain imposter syndrome?
00:47:38.740 Well, imposter syndrome is somebody who is successful, has reached certain levels of at least outward appearances of success, but yet is plagued by self-doubt that maybe I don't belong here.
00:47:50.800 Right.
00:47:51.100 What am I doing here?
00:47:51.880 I feel like I'm an imposter.
00:47:53.320 How did I find myself here?
00:47:54.760 Like a bad dream.
00:47:55.860 Yes.
00:47:56.100 It's like those dreams we all have before the exam that, you know, you go in and you haven't studied and it's the final exam.
00:48:01.880 Right, or you're in your pajamas or something.
00:48:03.940 You're in your pajamas or whatever.
00:48:06.000 And so, but it isn't one, it can happen to any of us.
00:48:09.940 And we all freeze sometimes in tense situations.
00:48:12.540 Well, we've all seen her on the national and international stage doing increasingly incoherent word salad statements.
00:48:19.380 We've just seen the incident with 60 Minutes substituting a completely incoherent answer that she gave to a question with something else that she did in another part of the interview or maybe even taped afterwards.
00:48:34.780 Who knows?
00:48:35.240 I have no idea how 60 Minutes came up with that.
00:48:37.640 But 60 Minutes got caught lying about the interview.
00:48:39.500 60 Minutes has been caught blatantly fixing her incoherence for her.
00:48:44.660 And, you know, that has been the case with the mainstream media.
00:48:47.020 And I think this is a theme throughout her career, dating back to that 2000, 2003, is she gotten her leg up in life by shortcuts, not by meritocracy.
00:49:01.020 And then she finds herself in a position that is beyond her capabilities.
00:49:05.120 And then she has to lie and exaggerate to maintain that position and get to the next level.
00:49:10.640 But with the assistance of the Democratic machine in California, to be fair to her, she's not the only person.
00:49:17.500 I mean, Gavin Newsom is another example of somebody who has faked his way to the top.
00:49:24.140 Javier Becerra, who's in the cabinet today, is a guy who had basically one year of legal experience before he became the attorney general of California.
00:49:32.440 And so California's machine has produced a number of underqualified and overconfident duds.
00:49:40.040 But this person is seeking the top job of the United States with an exaggerated record, with a tattered history of sordid ways that she got to where she is,
00:49:51.740 of numerous legal violations that could have resulted in criminal prosecution, just the campaign finance violations alone.
00:49:58.640 And so, you know, I can understand why somebody might have an imposter syndrome, and that's their history.
00:50:06.140 I know, the sad thing is California used to be famous for producing things from the world's best ag to aerospace to great movies.
00:50:12.620 And now it's like failed light rail projects in Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom.
00:50:17.780 And gaslighting, gaslighting the voters on so many levels.
00:50:21.540 So, I mean, Kamala Harris promised to San Francisco voters to get elected that she was going to be tough on crime.
00:50:28.640 The murder rate skyrocketed during her years as a district attorney.
00:50:33.500 And why did that happen?
00:50:34.540 Well, gangs in the whole Bay Area, they do talk to each other.
00:50:37.480 I was talking to a prosecutor in her office a couple of days ago in preparation for our interview.
00:50:42.760 And this prosecutor said, Harmeet, these criminals, you may think, oh, they're like, you know, criminals.
00:50:48.040 They're on the margins of society.
00:50:49.660 They're subhuman.
00:50:50.620 No, they're very smart.
00:50:51.560 They communicate with each other.
00:50:52.740 They know that if you are doing certain crimes in San Francisco, you're going to get a pass.
00:51:00.540 If you're doing drunk driving in San Francisco, you are going to get a pass during Kamala Harris's tenure.
00:51:05.740 If you did it in Alameda County, San Mateo County, Marin County, you would get prosecuted.
00:51:10.520 So, guess what?
00:51:11.680 The criminals came to San Francisco to do their drug dealing, to do their break-ins, their hot prowl burglaries, their low-level offenses.
00:51:19.200 Kamala Harris was notorious for being hard on gun possession by legal taxpayers, but extremely lenient to the point of multiple criminals who possess guns committing murders after she let them off with a slap on the wrist or no punishment at all.
00:51:38.840 So, there was a double standard there in her prosecution.
00:51:41.600 And that's a theme throughout the state where, you know, they've legalized stealing.
00:51:47.740 You can steal from stores.
00:51:49.520 No one can do anything about it.
00:51:51.820 But any store owner who tries to defend himself against violence or homeowner who tries the same will be prosecuted.
00:51:58.100 That's right.
00:51:58.680 Why?
00:51:59.140 What is that impulse, that anarcho-tyranny?
00:52:02.380 Where does that come from?
00:52:03.840 Well, there's two aspects of it.
00:52:05.540 First of all, it's treating the successful people in society as criminals and putting them in a box.
00:52:12.220 I mean, I'm a legal gun owner.
00:52:14.600 And, you know, the scrutiny you have to jump through to get a gun legally in California is incredible.
00:52:21.600 But if you are an illegal alien, you get a free pass.
00:52:26.140 We're a sanctuary city before we were a sanctuary state.
00:52:29.580 So, Kamala Harris has long been in the camp of protecting those folks by simply looking the other way.
00:52:36.260 Breaking federal law, in other words.
00:52:37.680 Breaking federal law.
00:52:39.960 And...
00:52:40.160 How is that not insurrection, by the way?
00:52:42.520 I mean, I think it's...
00:52:43.440 Look, you know, the criminals have guns and they get away with it.
00:52:47.240 But how is it not...
00:52:48.020 I mean, she's always running around calling all the J6, all the diabetic grandmothers languishing in prison, insurrectionists.
00:52:53.800 But how is it not insurrection against the United States of America to allow foreigners in your state against federal law?
00:53:02.780 Well, I completely agree.
00:53:03.840 I mean, it's even worse than that.
00:53:05.140 There was an interesting situation where a criminal committed a crime in San Francisco while she was a district attorney.
00:53:13.700 And that criminal was free to commit that crime because she had pushed for that criminal to be part of a program of rehabilitation.
00:53:21.820 So, there was a rehabilitation program where if you did some job training as someone arrested for a serious crime, you could avoid prison time.
00:53:30.920 Well, an illegal alien is not entitled to hold a job.
00:53:36.020 So, San Francisco taxpayers, California taxpayers under Kamala Harris's leadership were paying for jobs training for illegal alien criminals to get out of their criminal sentences.
00:53:48.960 And then they weren't even eligible to go on to hold those jobs.
00:53:53.640 So, one of those people committed a serious violent crime shattering the skull of a taxpayer in San Francisco.
00:53:59.940 And he was able to do that because Kamala Harris signed him up for jobs training when he isn't illegally allowed under United States law.
00:54:06.820 Why would you want that?
00:54:07.740 I mean, you clearly are trying to overthrow the society.
00:54:09.740 You know, you're pandering to a particular element of society.
00:54:13.880 I think eventually Democrats have wanted to legalize all of the illegal aliens in the country.
00:54:18.660 That's not a secret now.
00:54:19.640 They tried to lie about it in the past.
00:54:21.300 But today, that's a campaign promise of hers that she wants to legalize all of these illegal aliens in the country and get their votes.
00:54:28.720 So, it's a long-term vote recruitment program by these folks.
00:54:33.660 But look, you can't forget the detail.
00:54:36.640 So, she's the insurrectionist.
00:54:38.120 She's the insurrectionist.
00:54:38.740 I mean, trying to overthrow the United States government and system and destroy democracy and invalidate our founding documents, our core freedoms.
00:54:48.780 I mean, those are all species of insurrection, it would seem to me.
00:54:52.480 She sounds like a criminal.
00:54:53.360 Well, she's broken a lot of laws over the years, just in the, you know, white-collar laws.
00:54:58.840 But she's enabled hundreds, if not thousands, of criminals to go on to commit violent crimes and even fatalities.
00:55:06.880 I mean, there are police officers in San Francisco who lost their lives because Kamala Harris was soft on the criminals who went on to kill them as one of their dozens of offenses.
00:55:18.580 There's a long trail of victims in San Francisco and now California who have suffered because of Kamala Harris's soft on crime policies.
00:55:29.500 And she's lied about it and gotten away with it.
00:55:32.300 And it's kind of incredible that someone who failed, who increased the murder rate by many percentage points, who prosecuted almost no violent crimes in San Francisco during the many years she was a district attorney, she failed up to becoming the attorney general.
00:55:48.720 Where she went on to violate the rights of criminal defendants on a much more massive scale.
00:55:55.340 But even before that, Tucker, one of the interesting incidents is in the last two years of her race, of her tenure as district attorney, she was embroiled in a major scandal involving the systematic violation of criminal defendants' rights.
00:56:11.280 And in San Francisco, in San Francisco, there was a drug technician who was supposed to test the drugs and this person was sampling the drugs, taking them home and sampling them and also making numerous errors.
00:56:25.620 This was an open secret in the district attorney's office.
00:56:28.400 So after, you know, people mentioned it on numerous occasions, judges chastised the district attorney's office, eventually a top manager in the office sent a cover your ass email to Kamala Harris saying, hey, by the way, I think the head of this drug lab section is actually taking drugs and regularly violating protocols and handling evidence.
00:56:52.980 Kamala Harris, instead of doing her immediate duty as a district attorney to inform all defense counsel in all the cases in which this lab technician had handled the drugs for testing, she sat on it for a period of three months.
00:57:08.320 And it only came out not through Kamala Harris disclosing it.
00:57:12.220 And so the judge in that case, Christine Mazzullo, excoriated the district attorney's office.
00:57:17.620 Now, by this time, Kamala Harris had been the district attorney for six years.
00:57:21.040 In the six years she was the district attorney, she created no protocol for disclosing to defense counsel this what's called a Brady violation, a violation which is so massive that you have to disclose to the other side that there's been a potential due process violation that could be exculpatory.
00:57:37.900 So she got in trouble for that.
00:57:39.940 She went on after that two years later to become the attorney general of California.
00:57:44.460 So there's literally no accountability for, by some accounts, 1,400 cases, either convictions or pending cases, had to be dismissed in San Francisco because of this due process violation of the rights of the accused.
00:58:00.640 I personally litigated a case against Kamala Harris myself, and I saw the same pattern.
00:58:06.980 So I had an important civil rights case involving a sick applicant for a prison guard job in the prison department in Sacramento County.
00:58:17.300 Kamala Harris was the attorney general when this case went to trial, was getting prepared for trial.
00:58:22.160 And I had won this case at the administrative level.
00:58:24.600 So I was able to prove at an administrative hearing for state employees that the civil rights of my client had been violated because he was denied a job with the prison department because of his articles of faith.
00:58:35.860 He had a beard, he had a turban, and under federal equal employment law and state law as well, you know, the state has to accommodate that.
00:58:44.980 They had to, you know, offer him the opportunity to take a different gas mask test and prove that he could do the job.
00:58:49.540 Well, I won that case at the administrative level, which should have been a slam dunk for the state to agree that he should have this job.
00:58:56.920 Well, Kamala Harris fought that decision all the way to eve of trial.
00:59:03.020 And I remember, you know, getting the United States Department of Justice involved in this case.
00:59:08.040 And it was only after the United States Department of Justice opened up a civil rights investigation from the Office of Civil Rights into the state corrections department and how the state was handling this particular case.
00:59:19.780 And after I got a national coalition of civil rights organizations, ranging all the way from the American Civil Liberties Union to the Beckett Fund, a conservative organization.
00:59:29.660 So, a whole panoply of almost 30 civil rights organizations, only when I had a massive press conference on this issue did Kamala Harris, four years into this case, finally agree to settle the case.
00:59:40.720 So, you know, and why would she do that?
00:59:43.880 Well, the prison guards union, it turns out, only wanted accommodations for certain people, but not others.
00:59:50.080 And they didn't want this newcomer coming into their ranks.
00:59:53.540 So, you know, there was a blatant violation of my client's civil rights, but I finally won, but only after exerting outside pressure.
01:00:00.480 And this has been her pattern, typically.
01:00:02.660 She's only willing to back down, not because she's wrong, but because she's embarrassed or confronted publicly.
01:00:09.060 And even then, she's had such an entire career of faking her way to the top that there's just no shame there.
01:00:18.380 And, you know, she's willing to continue to lie until she gets caught.
01:00:21.680 How'd she get to be attorney general of the state of California after failing as a prosecutor for San Francisco County?
01:00:28.540 Well, again, it's the machine politics of California.
01:00:31.340 You mentioned Gavin Newsom.
01:00:32.660 You know, at the same time, there was consideration of whether Kamala Harris might run for governor.
01:00:37.340 And basically, in the upper echelons of Democrat politics in California, these things were all worked out in advance.
01:00:44.320 You know, multiple people might want the job, and I can guarantee you that's happening right now in the case of Nancy Pelosi, who's, you know, reaching the end of her career at some point of her, you know, it'll naturally expire.
01:00:55.780 But there's a lot of jockeying like that.
01:00:57.800 You know, which constituency?
01:00:59.460 Is it going to be gay?
01:01:00.640 Is it going to be Asian?
01:01:01.520 Is it going to be black?
01:01:02.360 Who's going to get the prize?
01:01:03.400 So it's kind of like that.
01:01:04.660 So that's all that matters.
01:01:06.180 All that matters is identity politics.
01:01:08.080 So, you know, at that point in time, she was a district attorney, and she could have run for multiple different offices.
01:01:15.500 Senate wasn't open at the time, so she ran for the attorney general position.
01:01:20.440 And so despite this massive, and I could go on for hours, I have a dossier of horrific instances of gross civil rights and human rights violations that occurred on her watch.
01:01:33.580 She had the resume, and she had the powerful backing, and she checked the boxes of identity politics.
01:01:42.240 First woman, first African American, first Indian American.
01:01:47.900 You know, so she checked those boxes.
01:01:49.420 She ran.
01:01:50.160 Now, she ran against a highly competent, seasoned district attorney of Los Angeles County, Steve Cooley, who I consider a friend and who's been a fellow warrior in the pro-life movement with me.
01:02:01.500 Steve Cooley ran the strongest campaign that year of all the campaigns, and he narrowly lost by just a handful of votes.
01:02:10.620 He was winning on election night.
01:02:12.420 This is a familiar story to people who've been watching elections recently.
01:02:17.260 He was winning on election night.
01:02:19.060 And then in California, we don't have election day.
01:02:23.400 We have election two months.
01:02:25.420 People are able to vote for 30 days before the election, and then they have 30 days to count the votes.
01:02:29.660 In Florida, by the way, they typically announce the results of an election on election night, like in civilized countries.
01:02:35.560 But in California, we don't do that.
01:02:38.060 Because that just makes it easier to cheat.
01:02:40.120 It makes it easier to cheat.
01:02:41.100 Yeah.
01:02:41.520 100%.
01:02:41.960 So she won extremely narrowly.
01:02:43.940 I think it was like 2,000 votes statewide in a state of 40 million people.
01:02:49.180 She won extremely narrowly, and she won weeks into the election counting, ballot counting period.
01:02:56.860 So I think we can maybe not prove, we can assume cheating.
01:03:00.940 You know, that was certainly suggested.
01:03:03.120 I can't prove it today.
01:03:04.980 But I can say that when you're talking about a single-party state, machine politics, differential application of safeguards on how votes are counted, like some counties match the signatures.
01:03:19.460 Some counties don't bother to do that, even though that's required under the law.
01:03:23.160 Some counties look the other way on irregularities, on things like, is the ballot dated?
01:03:31.240 Some don't.
01:03:33.260 Some counties, Los Angeles County is a prime example, have over a million voters on the voter rolls at that time who were not entitled to be on the rolls.
01:03:43.900 Dead, having moved multiple registrations.
01:03:47.040 Over a million?
01:03:48.060 Over a million.
01:03:49.060 A 2017 settlement after a lawsuit by Judicial Watch in Los Angeles County showed that in Los Angeles County alone, there were over a million people on the rolls who should have been removed.
01:04:01.900 And they entered into a settlement.
01:04:03.200 And I think four years later, they still hadn't removed those people from the voter rolls.
01:04:06.980 And so when you have a state, you add COVID to that.
01:04:10.540 So four years after 2017 is COVID, and you start having all-male voting because of COVID, suddenly there are a million extra ballots.
01:04:19.420 All-male, not the Saudi kind of all-male, but M-A-I-L.
01:04:22.900 M-A-I-L.
01:04:23.540 By-mail.
01:04:24.220 Ballot, mail ballot voting.
01:04:26.800 Because all-male voting would not allow Kamala Harris to be elected.
01:04:30.760 That's correct.
01:04:31.520 That's correct.
01:04:32.040 So in our system there in California, which by the way has now become the national system by default because crazy California politicians are now running the country in many ways or seeking to run the country, it's a very dangerous situation for election integrity.
01:04:52.560 And the person seeking the top job in the United States got her start with campaign and election violations, got away with it, has won elections while getting away with it, and is now seeking that top job.
01:05:07.480 So if anyone thinks that she would qualm or have any second thoughts about violating the law to get what she wants, she's done it many times in her career.
01:05:16.040 So this is a stressful time of year.
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01:05:20.000 It's the height of a presidential election season.
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01:06:46.480 What kind of attorney general was she?
01:07:03.000 Well, she had a couple of big flashy cases involving so-called consumer protection, but civil rights organizations criticized her for repeatedly violating the rights of the accused.
01:07:14.460 There were several instances of actual innocence claims by convicted felons who claimed that it was a case of false identity or otherwise.
01:07:25.100 And her attorney general's office rigidly took the position that on a technicality, for example, that someone had failed to raise this claim in a timely manner, you know, because they're an uneducated criminal, they should lose the right to prove their innocence claim.
01:07:40.600 She won on some of these and she lost on some of these.
01:07:44.460 We had prison overcrowding lawsuits in California during the time that she was the attorney general and federal judges ordered California to release lower level criminals from prison due to prison overcrowding.
01:08:00.040 Kamala Harris was nearly held in contempt of court for failing to do this.
01:08:04.740 And the reason that her office gave under her direction for not obeying a federal court order to sustain the civil rights of these inmates was because California has a lot of wildfires and prison inmates are used as cheap labor to fight those fires.
01:08:24.580 And who's going to fight the fires if we don't have the free or cheap labor of the prisoners to be able to do that?
01:08:34.500 I mean, it's akin to saying who's going to pick the cotton if we free the slaves.
01:08:39.680 And that's an argument made by our attorney general Kamala Harris.
01:08:45.320 There are tens of millions of illegal aliens in California.
01:08:48.680 You wouldn't think they would have a labor problem.
01:08:51.200 No, but, you know, that's a whole other argument there.
01:08:57.740 I mean, I think the left is systematically counting on the votes of people who aren't entitled to vote in multiple different ways in order to try to win this coming election.
01:09:10.120 I mean, they have gone to court repeatedly, the Mark Elias through the Democrat machine that Kamala Harris is now enjoying the full support of, to block voter ID laws.
01:09:22.120 It's illegal in California to ask for voter ID.
01:09:24.440 And this is after some jurisdictions tried to pass at a local level, Huntington Beach, voter ID requirements when you register to vote, when you vote.
01:09:32.640 And so the left in this country wants to make it illegal to ask for ID in just about every other, and every other way to, I mean, to register, to check into a hotel last night, I had to show my ID.
01:09:46.080 Of course.
01:09:46.560 To do anything.
01:09:47.280 To do anything, you have to do that.
01:09:48.540 So if you don't have to produce an ID to vote to choose the government, why do you need to produce one to buy a firearm?
01:09:57.280 Indeed.
01:09:58.280 Right, right.
01:09:59.740 Indeed.
01:09:59.980 So she seemed to have, just watching, having fled myself, California, decades ago, I'm just watching this on the news, but she seemed to have special animus toward pro-life people.
01:10:12.800 Yes.
01:10:14.120 Thank you for raising that.
01:10:15.300 So I represent David Daleiden, who is one of the most courageous young Americans I've had the privilege to represent in my 31 years of practicing law.
01:10:23.980 David went undercover in a long-form undercover investigation spanning years, posing as a purchaser of fetal tissue in order to expose Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation's systematic violation of federal law.
01:10:39.720 It's illegal in the United States, as it should be in every civilized place, to buy fetal remains for any reason.
01:10:47.980 But there's, in fact, a brisk trade in fetal remains.
01:10:52.600 And Planned Parenthood and its members of the National Abortion Federation members were circumventing or flouting federal law openly by offering price lists for different parts of fetal remains.
01:11:09.560 And, you know, this is a con on multiple levels.
01:11:12.680 So women who are unsure when they went into an abortion clinic, what they should do.
01:11:17.180 They're in a crisis.
01:11:18.160 Their boyfriend has abandoned them.
01:11:20.260 One of the selling points used by these abortion merchants is, well, the remains of your child will go to a good cause.
01:11:29.880 They'll be used for research.
01:11:30.900 I know it's illegal to sell those remains, but actually Planned Parenthood clinics were caught offering them for sale to researchers.
01:11:39.420 And so David busted them by taping in San Francisco hotel lobbies at abortion trade shows.
01:11:48.500 Believe it or not, a National Abortion Federation runs trade shows for abortion providers.
01:11:52.360 He collected this testimony, this evidence, by himself and with a couple of other helpers over the years and then exposed it in video recordings that he made public.
01:12:09.640 Now, this was...
01:12:10.680 That would be called journalism, I think.
01:12:11.960 It used to be called journalism.
01:12:14.000 Hardly anybody does that work anymore, going undercover like he did.
01:12:17.940 And it was very brave and it was explosive.
01:12:20.960 As a result of this testimony, several states opened up investigations and in some states, public funding was stripped from these clinics who did this horrific act of selling human body parts, arms, legs, livers.
01:12:36.920 I mean, there was a price list that these people were circulating.
01:12:39.540 And so this was obviously very upsetting to Big Abortion.
01:12:43.360 So Big Abortion, which is a big supporter of Kamala Harris and other big time Democrats in California, they can be counted on regularly to contribute millions to their campaigns.
01:12:55.160 So Big Abortion went to Kamala Harris and asked her to prosecute David Daleiden.
01:13:00.120 Now, there's this pesky little problem called the First Amendment.
01:13:05.160 And the First Amendment allows citizens to do journalism.
01:13:07.720 And so multiple jurisdictions in the United States have ruled that journalists going undercover, even if there's a wiretapping statute, are not to be prosecuted for that because of the First Amendment.
01:13:20.560 They're exercising their free speech rights.
01:13:23.360 Well, California has a wiretapping law.
01:13:26.540 It's never been used against a journalist.
01:13:28.840 So it's a single party consent state.
01:13:30.780 So under the rule, both people have to consent to the taping.
01:13:34.100 Now, the exception is if it's in a public place, which most of these tapings, arguably all of these tapings in California were made in a public place.
01:13:44.220 So Kamala Harris ignored the First Amendment and custom made the first prosecution of a journalist in California history.
01:13:53.760 So David Daleiden was indicted for undercover journalism seven years ago.
01:14:00.740 And his case has been pending now for seven years in San Francisco Superior Court.
01:14:06.080 Judge after judge after judge has not been willing to send a journalist to prison, not been willing to bring it to a head.
01:14:15.160 And so people just keep changing assignments.
01:14:17.780 And David remains on the hook, paying all this money to defend himself from the charge of doing journalism.
01:14:25.600 What penalties does he face?
01:14:27.880 He faces years in prison.
01:14:29.180 If he's convicted.
01:14:31.740 Did Kamala Harris prosecute any of the companies where people illegally selling baby parts?
01:14:40.400 No, of course not.
01:14:41.700 There's been no accountability for them.
01:14:43.360 So she prosecuted the person who told the truth about what was happening, but not the people who are committing the crime.
01:14:48.840 That's correct.
01:14:50.200 That seems evil.
01:14:51.860 Well, it is evil.
01:14:52.660 I mean, it's characteristic of her double standards and lack of morality throughout her entire professional life.
01:14:59.500 I think that's, I think it's, look, I mean, when people are looking and when she's embarrassed, she does the right thing.
01:15:07.040 I mean, there's a case of a death penalty inmate who was wrongfully convicted.
01:15:11.540 And it was only after somebody circulated the embarrassing Ninth Circuit argument where her office made ridiculous arguments that she reversed herself and dropped her office's opposition to letting this person go free.
01:15:26.780 So, now, what's scary about this, Tucker, is, as you and I both know, without Elon Musk being willing to invest in X and allowing us to have a free speech platform, we wouldn't be able to have this conversation publicly right now, right?
01:15:44.200 Well, Kamala Harris wants to make it illegal for journalists to expose the wrongdoing that public officials regularly commit.
01:15:54.880 And so if you don't have the media accountability and you don't have the ability to speak freely and criticize these politicians, they get away with crimes themselves.
01:16:04.620 And so she has made it a hallmark, not only of her current campaign, but dating back to her campaign for president in 2020, that people shouldn't be allowed to speak freely on the internet.
01:16:18.000 We must be able to, I mean, she confronted Elizabeth Warren during one of these debates, trying to get Elizabeth Warren, no shrinking violet herself, to agree that we must have censorship online.
01:16:29.260 And Elizabeth Warren kept trying to change the subject to her credit.
01:16:31.480 You know, she didn't want to agree with Kamala Harris that, yes, we must force X and every social media platform to censor commentary that might be dangerous, not just false, but so-called malinformation.
01:16:44.680 Right. Something that criticizes bad leadership.
01:16:48.140 Exactly.
01:16:48.960 So she wants to make it illegal for us to have this kind of a conversation.
01:16:54.520 And in Kamala Harris's United States, it would be illegal for us to criticize the government because that might be dangerous.
01:17:00.420 It might give people the wrong ideas.
01:17:02.820 Right.
01:17:03.060 They might lose control.
01:17:04.560 They might lose control.
01:17:06.360 And it's their hostility to free speech.
01:17:13.220 I mean, you know, you saw the vice presidential debate recently where a sitting governor of the United States, her running mate,
01:17:20.220 spouted wrong think and wrong information about the First Amendment, saying that, for example, you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, which is a dicta from a overruled case that was a shameful case involving censorship of flyers during World War I, you know, criticism of the government.
01:17:43.860 And that that truly a shameful case, truly a shameful case.
01:17:49.700 And that people who objected to getting into the most pointless war of all time, which was the First World War for no reason whatsoever, other than the vanity and ambition of our politicians.
01:17:59.700 And even to criticize that, went to jail.
01:18:01.140 A lot of people did go to jail.
01:18:02.260 People did go to jail for that.
01:18:03.660 And, you know, he also tried to state the canard that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
01:18:10.120 A hate speech is absolutely protected by the First Amendment.
01:18:12.520 What is hate speech?
01:18:12.720 There's no such thing as hate speech.
01:18:14.420 Hate speech is a relative term, which is whatever you don't like.
01:18:19.400 Exactly.
01:18:20.060 Whatever you don't like.
01:18:21.040 And so the freedom that we enjoy today on social media, in some circles, X specifically, would go away under Kamala Harris's regime.
01:18:32.740 And she has gotten power and abused it repeatedly throughout her career.
01:18:38.820 And we saw her shameful performance in the Kavanaugh hearings, you know, for example, where she used her platform to pretend to be this big prosecutor and to hold Brett Kavanaugh accountable on zero evidence.
01:18:52.540 But it's very selective.
01:18:54.220 You know, when someone close to her is accused of sexual misconduct and violence, her husband, she's silent, you know?
01:19:04.440 So let's explore that in a little more detail.
01:19:07.960 So she marries a guy called Doug Emhoff.
01:19:11.820 Yeah.
01:19:12.800 Who is kind of a moral scold himself.
01:19:16.520 His job has been to scold the rest of us for a moral inferiority, I've noticed.
01:19:20.600 But who is he exactly?
01:19:22.020 So Doug Emhoff is a lifetime, long-term partner at big American law firms.
01:19:30.100 And so he came of age, you know, around the same time as Kamala in the 1990s era.
01:19:35.840 He became a partner at this law firm, Venables, big partner in Los Angeles.
01:19:41.860 Can I say there's no sleazier group I've ever met?
01:19:44.800 I mean, a lot of big law partners, I would rather make it like a rapper, the godfather to my kids than those people.
01:19:52.320 Sorry, I just want to say that.
01:19:53.080 And I grew up in that kind of a setting in New York.
01:19:56.900 And you're absolutely correct.
01:19:58.840 So, I mean, if anyone's seen the fictional series Mad Men, the advertising agencies, well, that was law firms in the 1990s and even 2000s.
01:20:11.960 Some people say to this day where powerful men exploited less powerful women for their sexual gratification, cheated on their wives.
01:20:22.040 You know, you want to make partner at some big law firms.
01:20:24.960 And the time I was growing up, you had to sleep with a partner to do it.
01:20:28.480 I myself accused a partner at my first job of sexual harassment.
01:20:31.980 And, you know, that person went on to still be a partner to this day at other big, powerful law firms.
01:20:38.520 And so, it's really commonplace.
01:20:40.360 Okay, so this guy is in that vein of, you know, that era of, I would really call it regressive, male-centric law firm partnership.
01:20:52.980 So, Doug Emhoff has a couple of kids.
01:20:56.200 He was married to, I think, a Hollywood executive, Hollywood producer, and divorced from her.
01:21:01.900 You know, they remain on good terms.
01:21:03.580 In fact, Doug Emhoff's law firm has represented his ex-wife in litigation, actually, involving an entertainment dispute.
01:21:12.120 So, they're on good terms.
01:21:13.120 Maybe he's done her some favors or what have you.
01:21:15.060 But Kamala Harris dated Willie Brown, dated some other powerful men over the years.
01:21:21.240 Montel Williams, ladies and gentlemen.
01:21:22.540 Montel Williams, you know, there's been allegations that she dated Phil Bronstein, you know, who ran the San Francisco Chronicle for many years.
01:21:32.100 Married Sharon Stone, I think.
01:21:33.280 Married Sharon Stone, and so.
01:21:34.980 Got eaten by some kind of iguana at the zoo.
01:21:37.720 She's dated a lot of powerful, she pretty much only dated powerful guys, let's be honest, okay?
01:21:43.080 I don't know any ordinary Joes who've come out of the woodwork to say, oh, yeah, I was like the plumber and I dated Kamala Harris, right?
01:21:48.760 What is that?
01:21:49.540 What's the significance of that?
01:21:50.220 I mean, the significance of it is she's a user.
01:21:54.600 I think she's an ambitious person and she's only wanted to climb the rungs of power by aligning herself in a very medieval way with people who can further her geopolitical interests, if you will.
01:22:10.500 So, Emhoff fits that bill.
01:22:12.560 He had access to the millions of Hollywood.
01:22:15.720 He had access to the law firm money.
01:22:18.180 And he, you know, as a person who gave her entree, that really helped her out a lot in her Senate fundraising and so forth.
01:22:25.880 So, you know, she's married this guy in recent weeks.
01:22:30.340 It's come out that he is very credibly accused by a woman who's told her story to multiple publications of publicly slapping her at the Cannes Film Festival where this lady had been invited.
01:22:49.280 In the face so hard that she spun around from it and he did it because after a couple of cocktails, he was apparently very jealous.
01:22:57.540 You know, she went up to a valet to try to jump the line a little bit after waiting over an hour after the film festival got out and was trying to tip him to let them cut the line.
01:23:07.660 And he got jealous of this and publicly assaulted her.
01:23:13.240 Hit her in the face.
01:23:13.860 Hit her in the face.
01:23:15.120 And she immediately reported this to multiple friends of hers.
01:23:18.680 And in the law, this is considered what we call an excited utterance.
01:23:21.540 So, if you tell somebody something horrible that happened to you in the immediate seconds and minutes afterwards, it has assigned a higher degree of credibility under hearsay law than otherwise.
01:23:31.740 For good reasons, yeah.
01:23:32.500 Right.
01:23:32.840 Because, you know, people are more likely to be truthful when they've got the adrenaline running through them in the moment of what exactly just happened.
01:23:39.400 So, because of the dynamics of the situation, she allegedly got into the car.
01:23:46.060 The valets were shocked by this disgusting scene and, you know, let them go.
01:23:51.540 He forced his way into the same car.
01:23:53.340 So, while she's in the car with this person, the story goes that the Daily Mail has reported she called somebody she knew back in the United States and told them what was happening.
01:24:02.720 And she also reported it to a couple of friends of hers.
01:24:04.860 And so, her story has apparently been consistent according to the witnesses who the press has interviewed.
01:24:10.640 And that's one instance.
01:24:13.240 But the more shocking part of the story is that this woman recounts that Emhoff casually told her in the days or weeks before this incident, because she was being what she called love-bombed by him.
01:24:28.780 He was allegedly, you know, pursuing her for marriage.
01:24:31.860 You know, this is after he got divorced from his wife.
01:24:34.520 And they were dating for a period of months.
01:24:37.460 She finally, you know, sort of, I think it must have come up, how did you get divorced?
01:24:41.140 Like, what happened to your marriage?
01:24:42.800 And apparently, he told her that he had been accused by his elementary school teacher's babysitter of getting her pregnant.
01:25:00.100 His elementary school age children?
01:25:02.700 Children's teacher, sorry.
01:25:04.100 Correct.
01:25:04.460 Sorry, that's correct.
01:25:05.140 So, he had two elementary school kids at the time.
01:25:07.140 And this teacher was serving as their after-school babysitter slash nanny, tutor, whatever you want to call it.
01:25:15.160 Getting her pregnant and then causing the miscarriage, the loss of the pregnancy.
01:25:20.980 Causing the miscarriage.
01:25:22.200 Causing the termination of the pregnancy.
01:25:25.780 Not explicitly through abortion, but maybe through a miscarriage.
01:25:30.020 You know, that's the accusation.
01:25:31.700 Through violence.
01:25:32.560 He hit a woman in the face.
01:25:34.100 Yeah.
01:25:34.380 Exactly, exactly.
01:25:35.240 And so, now, American-
01:25:39.060 Has he told her this?
01:25:39.660 He told her this.
01:25:40.900 Casually.
01:25:41.960 So, American media being what it is today, you know.
01:25:47.120 Kind of a big deal.
01:25:48.360 The vice president's husband, who's redefining masculinity and lecturing us all about bigotry all the time.
01:25:57.520 Sanctimonious little prick that guy is.
01:25:59.180 That guy is accused of hitting a woman in the face and causing another woman to have a miscarriage.
01:26:05.800 Right.
01:26:06.240 And, I mean, you know, dating back to my years in law school, I took 40 hours of training and became a counselor for victims of domestic violence.
01:26:14.780 Since I've gone to court for many women who have been abused.
01:26:17.600 And it's, you know, science behind it that someone who hits a woman once in a public place.
01:26:24.800 In the face.
01:26:25.860 He's almost in the face in front of hundreds of witnesses in a line.
01:26:30.200 This person has done it in other circumstances.
01:26:32.700 I would virtually guarantee that.
01:26:36.700 It doesn't happen one time.
01:26:37.980 It's the culmination of pattern of years of experience.
01:26:41.460 Another story has come out about Doug Emhoff's conduct at his own law firm, Venables, where he apparently hired a lady to be his paralegal or secretary sitting on his desk.
01:26:52.920 And her name was Katya, and to the point that other partners, other male partners in the office demanded their own Katya, demanded their own paralegal to sit on their desk.
01:27:04.140 And this Katya episode happened during the time that Kamala Harris was engaged to be married to Doug Emhoff.
01:27:12.660 She may have come into contact with this person.
01:27:13.980 So the implication is?
01:27:15.200 The implication is he uses women as objects and doesn't treat them as equals and doesn't respect them.
01:27:21.040 I think that's fair.
01:27:21.740 Probably not too surprising that he's like some power feminist now, right?
01:27:26.660 Well, I think.
01:27:27.460 Have you ever met a male feminist who treats women well?
01:27:29.860 I haven't.
01:27:30.260 One should always be suspicious of the male feminists.
01:27:33.400 That's my experience.
01:27:34.480 I've never met anybody more likely to hit a woman in the face or cause a miscarriage than a male feminist.
01:27:39.800 I mean, they're all abusers.
01:27:40.660 I've never met one who was not an abuser of women, ever.
01:27:42.960 Well, what concerns me as a 30-year-plus activist on domestic violence is the prospect that somebody like that might be in the White House.
01:27:55.880 I think that's very scary.
01:27:57.740 And that the president of the United States might be an enabler of somebody like that.
01:28:03.800 That really bothers me.
01:28:04.940 Well, yeah.
01:28:05.980 So, that's the obvious question.
01:28:07.860 I mean, these sound like this is not Brett Kavanaugh stuff.
01:28:11.860 These are credible.
01:28:12.820 I think it's very credible.
01:28:14.020 These stories were sourced with multiple sources.
01:28:17.080 And I think there's probably more that's going to come out.
01:28:18.800 I won't be surprised.
01:28:20.900 And this is an actual human being making these allegations?
01:28:23.300 Actual human being making these allegations and, you know, they're making them to a person who has a history of looking the other way, enabling, being the beneficiary of.
01:28:36.580 Well, so that's the question.
01:28:37.620 Kamala Harris is a huge defender of women.
01:28:39.500 All the girls are voting for her because she's for women.
01:28:42.840 What's her position on these allegations?
01:28:44.520 She hasn't commented.
01:28:45.340 And, you know, when she was running for district attorney, I've looked at her resume at the time, and she listed as one of her credentials being the chairman of the board of a domestic violence advocacy organization.
01:28:57.420 She has promoted herself.
01:28:58.880 Oh, so perfect.
01:28:59.480 She has promoted herself as a prosecutor who's been, you know, protecting women from sex trafficking and human trafficking.
01:29:06.180 And I can tell you, like, I mean, just a quality of life issue in San Francisco where I've lived for the last almost 25 years now is that you can't get elected in San Francisco without checking the boxes of different constituencies.
01:29:21.300 And one of those is the Chinese-American Chinatown community, which includes a lot of organized crime and sex trafficking.
01:29:31.400 And in her years as district attorney-
01:29:33.100 And always has, by the way.
01:29:33.980 She never touched the sex trafficking dens in Chinatown.
01:29:38.900 I walked through Chinatown on my way to work before it got, you know, super dangerous in San Francisco.
01:29:43.240 Chinatown is dangerous now?
01:29:45.140 San Francisco is dangerous.
01:29:46.720 I don't think there's any safe place in San Francisco.
01:29:48.960 It was one of the safest cities in the country.
01:29:50.600 It's tragic because it's a beautiful city.
01:29:53.840 Most beautiful.
01:29:54.520 It's like, some would call it the Paris of the United States.
01:29:58.420 Cape Town, that's right.
01:29:59.180 Beautiful city.
01:30:00.500 And during her years there, she really allowed sex trafficking to flourish.
01:30:06.380 She was notorious as a prosecutor for only taking up the slam dunk cases.
01:30:13.260 And even there, she had a very low prosecution rate in her later years.
01:30:17.560 I mean, if you just descend, you know, to 25,000 feet, she's this member of the law enforcement community, as she says.
01:30:26.680 She's the prosecutor in both San Francisco and then statewide in our largest state.
01:30:30.920 And both the city of San Francisco and the state of California became more dangerous and chaotic during that same period.
01:30:36.900 A hundred percent.
01:30:37.860 And so, nothing happens overnight.
01:30:40.320 So, today's fentanyl bend that you see on every corner in San Francisco, the gangs of young criminals who come into the city to rip it off, you can trace all of that back to Kamala Harris's leadership.
01:30:52.320 When she ran for district attorney in 2003, she proudly noted that she was one of the prosecutors, one of the few prosecutors, who was opposed to a proposed law, a proposition that would allow prosecutors to treat juveniles who committed violent crimes, prosecute them as adults.
01:31:12.920 She was opposed to that.
01:31:14.520 She wanted to protect the juvenile violent criminals and the people who would go on inevitably to create, to commit greater and greater crimes.
01:31:24.900 So, she's been soft on crime, at the same time calling herself a top prosecutor all these years.
01:31:31.540 I mean, she has been open about what she is in many ways, but, you know, packaged it in very slick terms.
01:31:37.960 And because she's a woman and because she's a minority and because so much of our culture panders to this identity politics, she's been able to somehow get away with the Marxist substance of what she has been peddling.
01:31:53.260 She's a minority.
01:31:54.200 It's hilarious.
01:31:54.980 I mean, unless you're Hispanic, you are a minority in California, no matter what you look like or where your ancestors are from.
01:32:01.260 Right.
01:32:02.040 I mean, in a state like California, where there's not a white majority, can you still, is it still meaningful to call yourself a minority?
01:32:08.680 Well, you know, in San Francisco and in these circles, somehow there's this cognitive dissonance about it.
01:32:18.720 Yeah.
01:32:18.920 Right?
01:32:19.280 And, you know, what's even, I bring, I come back to Amos Brown, who she did her first known violation of the campaign finance laws for in 2000 when she was a consultant for his campaign.
01:32:32.880 I mean, just last year, she traveled to Ghana with Amos Brown on a mission on behalf of the United States where she promised billions of dollars of aid to Ghana.
01:32:43.980 And I juxtapose that.
01:32:46.120 White Ghana.
01:32:47.600 Ghana, Africa in general.
01:32:49.360 I don't know, some expiation of white guilt in the United States, you know, that somehow we're responsible for crimes and impoverishment that has occurred over there.
01:32:58.440 I don't know why, but, you know, we as a country, the Biden and Harris administration have promised billions of dollars to Africa at the same time that white Appalachia is drowning and we've had this flood damage in North Carolina where I grew up and no one's promising them even millions of dollars, much less billions.
01:33:19.960 And so this is the administration and, you know, this is normal.
01:33:24.740 No one even comments on it, it seems.
01:33:26.420 Yeah, things are totally out of control.
01:33:29.340 There's no doubt about that.
01:33:31.280 How does she get from Attorney General of California to the Senate?
01:33:36.760 Well, again, it was the machine politics of California.
01:33:41.520 And, you know, in California, there's usually a game of musical chairs.
01:33:45.560 And so one politician is anointed for the next office.
01:33:49.800 And then, you know, there's jockeying behind the scenes and then people take their turn.
01:33:54.180 And I will say to the Democrats' credit that they're usually very disciplined about these issues.
01:33:59.140 And, you know, they'll have their vicious game of identity politics behind the scenes, right?
01:34:05.680 But then one person will emerge from that in some deal making.
01:34:08.780 Okay, you run for this, you run for that, you run for the other, you wait your turn.
01:34:11.860 So it was Kamala Harris' turn to graduate from her two terms as Attorney General to run for the Senate.
01:34:21.340 And the pathway was cleared for her to do that.
01:34:24.420 So then, I mean, when you win the Democratic primary in California statewide, you're done.
01:34:28.860 Yeah, the opposition we always do as Republicans, and I've been a leader in the Republican Party.
01:34:34.400 We always recruit somebody and run somebody and they do their best and they're usually better than the Democrat.
01:34:40.100 But the Democrat funding mechanism is such and the voter registration advantage is such in California that it's virtually impossible for Republicans to win statewide office.
01:34:50.520 And indeed, it's been many years since we've won a statewide office in California.
01:34:55.640 And so, it's just, it is a one-party state.
01:34:58.840 It's a one-party state and one-party states become corrupt and there's a lack of accountability and the quality of the legislators goes down and down and down.
01:35:07.820 And so, the gene pool, if you will, for these higher offices in California is decreasing.
01:35:14.960 And, I mean, there was a point in time when you had a Jerry Brown, now, of course, very liberal.
01:35:19.560 I didn't agree with him on just about anything, but at least he was a, you know, accomplished person academically.
01:35:25.940 He's a dynamic, interesting person, actually.
01:35:28.300 He's a polymath.
01:35:28.820 And I disagreed with him, too.
01:35:30.060 He's a big liberal, but Jerry Brown was not mediocre.
01:35:32.900 He was not mediocre, talented, you know, intelligent.
01:35:36.940 That is not the caliber of California Democrats today.
01:35:41.400 I mean, I told you, for example, now, a cabinet member in the Biden administration, Javier Becerra, had barely practiced law before he was deemed to be appropriate to replace Kamala Harris as the attorney general in California when she became United States senator.
01:36:00.380 Barely practiced law.
01:36:01.680 Barely practiced law.
01:36:02.440 I believe it was one year that he had practiced law.
01:36:04.720 So, he had an inactive law license for a period of time.
01:36:06.840 He reactivated it.
01:36:08.360 That became the attorney general.
01:36:09.480 That's the standard.
01:36:10.460 It doesn't matter.
01:36:11.080 It's just a waiting room for the next office and the next office.
01:36:14.460 So, it's going to become interesting to see who's anointed by their machine to replace Gavin Newsom.
01:36:22.400 But we are in California behind this iron curtain of the left, and, you know, taxpayers are just at the mercy of these increasingly mediocre Marxists in California.
01:36:37.160 Well, this is why the productive people have left.
01:36:40.540 Yep.
01:36:41.340 It's something that every taxpayer definitely has to think about.
01:36:44.940 What do you pay all in, would you say, in California?
01:36:48.160 What percentage of your gross income goes to the government?
01:36:51.840 I pay well over 50%.
01:36:54.000 Let me give you, you know, some facts.
01:36:56.120 In San Francisco, there's a payroll tax.
01:36:57.840 So, those of us who earn a wage in San Francisco, and I'm an employer in San Francisco, I have to pay a payroll tax on every employee.
01:37:04.080 It's over a percentage point of every employee that I hire over there.
01:37:07.660 If you're making over a couple of hundred thousand dollars, you're paying 13.5% income tax in San Francisco, in California, rather.
01:37:16.700 And then on top of that, you're paying the federal taxes as well.
01:37:19.520 So, for that, what do you get?
01:37:21.980 Um, you can't go into a drugstore in California today and pick up a deodorant and take it to the counter.
01:37:31.140 You have to call an assistant to come and unlock it for you in any city in California because we have a law that effectively legalizes theft under $950.
01:37:40.440 And so, I've witnessed gangs of criminals come into my CBS or Walgreens and just steal hundreds of dollars of stuff right in front of my eyes, thousands of dollars of stuff.
01:37:52.040 They bring in bags, they put them into the bags, they walk out, and the employees of these stores are disciplined by their employers if they take any steps to try to interfere with this wholesale larceny.
01:38:06.280 Absolutely.
01:38:06.640 And, by the way, it would be dumb to interfere with them because they have weapons and you, as a citizen, don't have a weapon typically.
01:38:15.620 You know, it's virtually impossible in San Francisco still.
01:38:17.840 There's only, in the dozens of people, I think, have gotten concealed carry permits to carry after, you know, the Supreme Court has effectively made that mandatory as a shall issue.
01:38:27.500 So, there's a huge imbalance there.
01:38:29.640 And the criminals are on the ascendancy and the Democrat politicians who made that so keep failing upward.
01:38:35.940 And, you know, Kamala Harris is the most glaring example of that.
01:38:39.520 So, there's a legislator in the state of California who, he's the one who legalized the intentional spreading of AIDS.
01:38:48.280 Scott Wiener, my state senator.
01:38:50.600 Yeah.
01:38:51.600 So, Scott Wiener, the most obviously evil politician in America.
01:38:56.340 I mean, I don't think there are many evil politicians, but he's the one who tries the least hard to hide it.
01:39:02.600 Does he have any connection to Kamala Harris?
01:39:06.840 Only in the sense that they're both heirs of the same machine.
01:39:09.780 Yeah.
01:39:10.040 He's part of that machine.
01:39:10.880 So, you know, he has, you know, I've shown you some flyers here of the people who've endorsed her.
01:39:18.500 He was anointed as the next senator after Mark Leno.
01:39:22.800 It's been considered to be a gay Senate seat.
01:39:26.040 You know, that's how they identify the politics there.
01:39:28.040 And so.
01:39:28.560 It's a gay Senate seat?
01:39:29.580 Yeah.
01:39:29.900 Like, that's, it's reserved for the, you know, gay Democrat politician who's next in line in San Francisco.
01:39:36.640 So.
01:39:37.120 Are we sure they're gay or they're just pretending to be gay?
01:39:39.380 I think we're pretty sure Scott Wiener's gay.
01:39:41.640 He's a regular fixture at the Folsom Street Fair, wears bondage gear and is, is very out about that.
01:39:48.580 Yeah.
01:39:49.320 Where's bondage?
01:39:49.900 Performative.
01:39:50.600 Totally cool.
01:39:51.380 Yeah.
01:39:51.520 That's not weird.
01:39:53.520 So I was really surprised during the Democratic primaries of 2019 to discover how unpopular Kamala Harris was in the state of California.
01:40:04.620 Yeah.
01:40:04.820 And that was really, as a native California, in the first moment I realized voters don't play a meaningful role in kind of anything in California.
01:40:11.420 Right.
01:40:11.840 I mean, so what's interesting is you got a lot of politicians out there who are Democrats who have some charm, some charisma.
01:40:17.880 For sure.
01:40:18.160 Some would even call Joe Biden somebody earlier in his career.
01:40:20.900 I don't know about the term.
01:40:21.240 He had a lot of charm, a lot of charisma.
01:40:22.580 I knew him.
01:40:23.180 Barbara Boxer.
01:40:24.080 Barbara Boxer.
01:40:24.300 Who I disagreed with on everything.
01:40:25.920 Barbara Boxer.
01:40:26.520 You're a very charming woman, just being honest.
01:40:28.780 I mean, Dianne Feinstein even had a better pulse on the people.
01:40:32.880 When Kamala Harris, as a district attorney, refused to seek the death penalty for a cop killer in San Francisco in her first year as district attorney, Dianne Feinstein called her out on it.
01:40:44.180 And she said, if there were ever a special circumstance, it's a gangbanger shooting a cop in cold blood.
01:40:50.240 And, you know, she had the common touch.
01:40:54.260 She had the charm.
01:40:55.460 And Kamala Harris is just lacking charisma.
01:40:59.640 And, you know, you try to unpack that and analyze it.
01:41:01.940 Well, if you have had everything handed to you from a fairly early age and she started getting her leg up, if you will, in the age of 29 in politics.
01:41:14.960 I'm stealing that.
01:41:16.280 Is it catty?
01:41:17.360 Yes.
01:41:17.800 Is it awesome?
01:41:18.700 Oh, yeah.
01:41:19.060 You, you don't have to earn it.
01:41:22.000 You don't have to try very hard.
01:41:23.380 And so she's unlikable.
01:41:25.700 She's got that scoldy, schoolmarm-y way about her, preachy way about her.
01:41:31.160 And she doesn't have to be, she hasn't had to be likable to get to where she is.
01:41:35.440 You think about her choice.
01:41:37.540 She was not the obvious choice for, for vice president for many of us.
01:41:44.100 Like, you know, people would have said Gretchen Whitmer, somebody from the Midwest, you know, someone who's adding something to the ticket.
01:41:48.620 But the politics of the Democratic Party have become such that their most loyal constituency today is African-American women.
01:41:56.340 And so, you know, Joe Biden himself was a marginal candidate.
01:42:00.820 And so the calculation was made that we need to pick the best African-American female candidate.
01:42:08.680 And they had a list of three.
01:42:10.720 And Kamala Harris was selected to fill that role.
01:42:13.680 She wasn't the most talented.
01:42:15.380 She wasn't the most charismatic.
01:42:16.660 But she checked a couple of boxes for the Democrats, and that's how he was paired with her.
01:42:24.580 And if Joe Biden and Jill Biden had thought about it, they might have gone back and asked Terrence Hallinan, who gave Kamala Harris her start in San Francisco, how that went for him.
01:42:37.440 How did it go for him to hire her into the office and give her a chance?
01:42:41.540 Well, she ate his lunch pretty quickly, and that's exactly what happened with Kamala Harris, who's been scheming, I suspect, since day one, getting into the White House, undermining Joe Biden, and, you know, eventually clawed her way to the top of the ticket.
01:42:58.020 Has she ever created anything that you know of?
01:43:00.480 Well, she's responsible for many deaths of innocent people in San Francisco.
01:43:10.020 She's created a lot of tragedy for victims of crime in our state.
01:43:14.360 She's created a lot of civil rights violations.
01:43:17.860 She has not created anything in the sense that you or I would consider a proud accomplishment.
01:43:27.820 I can't think of anything.
01:43:28.720 What does she believe?
01:43:30.480 I think she, you know, so she's famous for saying that I have one client, and it's, you know, you, the people.
01:43:37.020 She has one client, and it's Kamala Harris.
01:43:39.480 She believes in Kamala Harris getting ahead.
01:43:42.580 I think that's, at her core, all that she fundamentally believes.
01:43:47.360 So she doesn't have a detectable philosophy or ideology or principled commitment to any set of ideas?
01:43:56.280 Well, not that I can tell.
01:43:57.480 I mean, I think early on she adopted the persona of advocate for the downtrodden African-American youth.
01:44:06.020 But I mean, that was, that itself was focus tested, I think.
01:44:09.540 Growing up in Montreal, the daughter of college professors, you know, she's big in the civil rights movement.
01:44:14.120 Exactly.
01:44:14.960 Exactly.
01:44:15.560 And, you know, I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal in 2019 when she was running for president, highlighting her flip-flops as a prosecutor on marijuana, on truancy, on even on, you know, many other forms of crime and other policy issues.
01:44:33.580 And she's unashamed about it, and she's, she just says, well, I've evolved, circumstances have changed.
01:44:41.640 She's evolved on just about every single issue.
01:44:44.480 And what that tells you is there is no fundamental core there.
01:44:47.980 And you can look at a Bernie Sanders, for example, complete Marxist, far left, but he's kind of inconsistent throughout his whole, you know where you stand with him.
01:44:57.120 He isn't going to suddenly embrace drilling or, you know, any particular issue that he's been opposed to.
01:45:05.060 You know where you stand.
01:45:05.720 Well, you know where he's in like a yurt in Vermont in the 70s.
01:45:08.060 So, you know, whatever you think of yurts in Vermont, he seems to mean it.
01:45:11.280 He's authentic.
01:45:12.340 Yeah.
01:45:12.760 And you can't say the same of Kamala Harris.
01:45:15.540 She's pronounced her name differently over the years.
01:45:18.620 She's adopted different persona depending on who she's speaking to.
01:45:21.900 She's flip-flopped on marijuana usage, on gun ownership.
01:45:26.500 She claims she owns a Glock today.
01:45:28.440 I would, you know, I don't think she knows how to load a weapon.
01:45:33.540 I seriously doubt she knows how to.
01:45:35.080 Well, she has bodyguards that we pay for.
01:45:36.280 Yeah, exactly.
01:45:37.000 And so, she's supposed advocate for victims of domestic violence and yet silent when her husband is credibly accused of the same.
01:45:47.300 Hitting a woman in the face.
01:45:49.400 If, this is my last question, if she is elected president the second week of October, as we're having this conversation, Trump is ahead, substantially ahead, appears to be, in internal polling, which I think is real.
01:46:02.060 But, you know, the Democratic Party cheats, they're going to cheat in this election, we can say confidently, if she becomes president, what is the country in for, do you think, based on what you've seen?
01:46:16.020 Well, the Democratic Party of today has become the party of big business and pharma.
01:46:22.980 So, I think they're also the party of the warmongers.
01:46:25.840 Yes.
01:46:26.100 So, I think you can expect big warmongering and neocons to be happy with the level of, quote-unquote, investment in other people's countries.
01:46:37.260 You can expect the forced taking of drugs that Joe Biden tried to force on all American employers to, in turn, force on their employees, the ineffective COVID vaccines that don't prevent what they claimed.
01:46:52.740 And other drugs, you know, America is one of only two countries in the world that allows drugs to be advertised on television.
01:46:59.820 And, you know, Democratic Party is definitely, both parties, but certainly the Democrats are definitely taking from that side.
01:47:07.240 But the most scary thing to me is the conversation that you and I are having, that presumably a lot of people are going to see, will not be possible in Kamala Harris's United States.
01:47:17.680 She has openly called for the censorship of viewpoints that she doesn't agree with, and you can expect the permanent change to the United States Supreme Court of stuffing term limits, otherwise corrupting it away from the vision of the founders.
01:47:35.260 And I think you can expect so many other innovations that Democrats have talked about, innovations like eliminating the electoral college, national popular vote, as our way of permanently putting rural Americans under the heel of the corrupt coastal elites.
01:47:55.500 So the way of life that my parents brought me to the United States as a small child to enjoy will not be available to Americans under the vision of Kamala Harris that she's openly promising.
01:48:08.900 How will you respond if she's the president in January?
01:48:13.740 I'll be part of the resistance.
01:48:15.100 Yes.
01:48:15.380 That's the only way to live.
01:48:16.520 I will not live on my knees.
01:48:18.040 So we will have to fight that in whatever corners of the country and whatever courts that'll still hear us until we're silenced.
01:48:25.500 So if the laws change, and she has promised to change them, and she has the support of the Atlantic magazine and all the, basically everyone in Washington, and free speech ends in America, and you can be punished for saying things the regime doesn't like, will you stop talking?
01:48:40.420 I will not stop talking, and I know you won't either, Tucker.
01:48:42.400 I won't.
01:48:43.680 No.
01:48:44.160 I'll go to jail before I do that.
01:48:46.960 Do you think Americans, I mean, to the extent we can know, but they took the COVID facts, I gotta say.
01:48:52.580 I say that with great embarrassment.
01:48:54.800 People did stand passively by and allow their civil liberties to evaporate during COVID.
01:49:00.000 Do you think people will do the same when their free speech right is taken from them?
01:49:04.860 People are doing it.
01:49:06.620 People did it.
01:49:07.940 People did it in the years after 2020, in the years before 2020.
01:49:15.320 So many Americans have passively allowed, I mean, I would date this back to the Patriot Act in 2001, when I was one of the few Republicans who stood up and said, it is wrong to interrogate Americans on the basis of their background.
01:49:33.260 It is wrong to surveil Americans and all of our communications.
01:49:39.440 And today, in the name of national security, Republicans and Democrats have repeatedly enabled the deep state and the big state to collect all of our communications and surveil us.
01:49:52.200 And for our own good, force us to take drugs and censor what we're allowed to see.
01:49:59.200 And so, those Americans who are getting their news from cable and the nightly news and the networks are seeing a version of Plato's forms.
01:50:10.840 It's a distorted vision of reality.
01:50:12.620 And so, without the free speech that the founders so wisely guaranteed as our first of those civil rights in the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment, which allows us to defend those rights, this isn't a country anymore.
01:50:26.180 And I think that's the apocalyptic future that we're facing.
01:50:30.280 I remember you right after 9-11.
01:50:32.760 I should say, for those who don't know this, but you're from a religious tradition that's a small religious minority in India.
01:50:40.500 And they were mistaken for radical, it sounds funny now even to say it, radical Muslims.
01:50:48.280 I guess it's not funny at all, but there were a lot of...
01:50:50.460 People lost their lives in the wake of 9-11 because they were mistaken.
01:50:53.760 Sikhs were mistaken as people from Afghanistan or the Middle East.
01:50:58.780 But completely different religion, nothing to do with it.
01:51:00.960 Completely different religion, totally different.
01:51:03.320 In fact, Sikhs fought against Muslim invaders in India and safeguarded that whole subcontinent from invasion.
01:51:10.540 And so, it's no joke to us to have our right to exercise our faith, to not be, have the FBI show up at your door because of ignorance and start interrogating you.
01:51:21.680 By the way, even if they, I should just say, as a matter of principle, in fact, I know a million great Muslims personally who I love.
01:51:30.200 And so, even if they had been Muslims, it wouldn't, you can't hassle people because of their religion.
01:51:35.380 And then the ACLU, which I joined back then because of this specific issue, was the only voice in America fighting against Muslims being rounded up and interrogated in Los Angeles in 2001.
01:51:49.080 It's abhorrent and it smacks of Japanese concentration camps and other dark periods in our American history.
01:51:56.320 And today, those voices aren't there.
01:51:59.800 So, conservatives have always relied on liberal civil rights activists to safeguard those rights.
01:52:08.020 Hey, you know what?
01:52:08.800 Conservatives sometimes get falsely arrested for crimes.
01:52:11.420 That's for sure.
01:52:12.120 And today, those liberal groups have abandoned those principles.
01:52:17.840 So, today, it's Republicans and conservatives who go to court.
01:52:22.100 It's, you know, my nonprofit, the Center for American Liberty, that goes to court to defend the rights of students to hear differing viewpoints on campus or to defend young girls from being mutilated by abusive doctors in the name of transgender craziness.
01:52:39.820 And so, today, we are the civil libertarians.
01:52:43.660 Ill-prepared as we are institutionally, conservatives are the last bastion to defend our country.
01:52:51.000 I think you're absolutely right.
01:52:52.460 And they're waking up to it.
01:52:53.440 And I just want to say, I want to add to the list of things I've apologized for over the years, including the Iraq War.
01:52:59.040 I didn't perceive just how scary and anti-American the Patriot Act was.
01:53:07.620 You were one of the very first, very first people on the right.
01:53:10.840 You were definitely the first person on the right I saw say that.
01:53:14.020 And bless you for catching that immediately.
01:53:16.720 Well, you know, again, we go back to the Constitution.
01:53:20.720 And when I look at this election, Kamala Harris has shown herself over all of her decades of public service exactly who she is.
01:53:29.360 She's someone who is ruthless, who has ignored the law when it benefits her, who was even ignored as a guardian of the law, the Constitution repeatedly.
01:53:37.760 The rights of the accused, the rights of the wrongfully convicted, the rights of the citizens she has sworn to defend, and those laws that she has sworn to uphold.
01:53:48.180 She has ignored them when convenient.
01:53:49.860 And I think that's, particularly when you take on the mantle of, I'm the top cop, I'm the border czar, I'm the prosecutor, I'm America's top law enforcement person.
01:54:00.920 And it's scary that that person wants to be the number one person with the most power in the free world.
01:54:10.200 And so that's what's at stake in this election.
01:54:12.720 So it isn't about mean tweets.
01:54:14.980 It isn't about style.
01:54:17.720 It's about what country we want in the next four years.
01:54:23.020 That's a wonderful summation.
01:54:25.100 Ramit Dillon, thank you very, very much.
01:54:26.560 Thank you for having me, Tucker.
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