The Tucker Carlson Show - January 02, 2026


Ian Carroll on America’s Deadliest Mass Shooting and Unanswered Questions They Don’t Want You to Ask

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On October 1st, 2017, a gunman opened fire at a country music concert in Las vegas, killing at least 20 people and wounding at least 58 more. It s the most deadly mass shooting in the history of the United States, and it s one of the most infamous mass shootings in American history.

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00:00:00.000 ian carroll i have wanted to meet you i'm grateful you're here yeah thank you thanks man um so i
00:00:10.960 just want to understand one story i want to know what we know about the biggest mass shooting in
00:00:17.580 american history in las vegas 2017 i spent a full year looking into it got nowhere um other than
00:00:26.660 increasingly skeptical of the story we were told but i really don't there's a lot i don't know so
00:00:30.740 will you lay out what we do know yeah um i mean first the most important thing to highlight is
00:00:37.260 that i'd bet that a lot of people when you started that sentence don't know what the most deadly mass
00:00:43.600 shooting in american history is because i think that most americans have forgotten about the las
00:00:47.820 vegas shooting because it just got poofed right out of the news after like a week and they just never
00:00:53.240 brought it up again basically um and then there was actually disinformation poured in to try to
00:00:57.560 stop journalists and investigators and regular citizens from uncovering basic truths from getting
00:01:02.980 basic disclosure um can you be specific what does that mean disinformation poured in of what well
00:01:08.200 i think we'll get there in the story um and but before we start the story it's important to give
00:01:13.860 myself context in that i wasn't there and i wasn't researching at the time and so the actual work of
00:01:19.720 what we do know was done by a bunch of citizen journalists a bunch of really incredible researchers
00:01:24.480 at the time which i'm going to try to kind of shout out as we go through it because i didn't do any of
00:01:30.380 the original research i came in long after the fact and did my research and found all of their work
00:01:35.380 and well you have a talent for synthesizing so i mean that's what i try to do is i'm good at i'm good
00:01:40.800 at getting eyes on stories and a lot of the best researchers and journalists are just good at the
00:01:45.560 information itself at the journalism exactly right and we we kind of need these different people in
00:01:49.700 these different lanes to sort of help each other out and work together in order to get the story
00:01:53.520 done but then also get it out to as many people as possible and this one is so important as i think
00:01:58.560 we'll talk through here not just in that it's the most deadly mass shooting in american history but in
00:02:03.160 that it has very direct political and geopolitical implications for what's happening today on the
00:02:08.700 world stage um depending what theory you subscribe to about what really happened but um the basics
00:02:15.320 of what happened is we're told that stephen paddock this disgruntled 60 something like real estate guy
00:02:23.520 x x gun guy uh thought he was a hot shot but was failing at life and he was slipping in his mental
00:02:31.860 health he had a gambling problem and you know all these little explanations they kind of give after the
00:02:35.920 fact and he wound up going to las vegas um and there's so many places here where i'm going to
00:02:41.320 have to sort of say first they told us this and then they told us this and then they told us this
00:02:44.600 and first they said he checked into the hotel the day before the shooting um but it was later revised
00:02:49.880 because it was obvious that he had checked in uh like five or six days before the shooting on the 25th
00:02:54.700 of september and he checks in and over a series of days he lugs up i think 22 bags of weapons and
00:03:02.460 ammunition to his hotel room um suite 32 135 he had two suites 32 135 and 32 136 that were adjoining
00:03:10.000 and he rents it alone with no one else on the room though we later learned that that wasn't true
00:03:15.900 and uh and he stocks with all these weapons which were mostly all ar platforms with bump stocks very
00:03:23.700 important that you know they were bump stocks because that's evil and makes no sense um and then
00:03:28.660 there's this country music concert on october 1st uh down outside of the mandalay bay across the street
00:03:34.560 in this big parking lot with thousands of attendees and we'll kind of circle back to this endlessly i
00:03:41.100 think as we unpack what really happened and what people really discovered about it but um there's some
00:03:48.720 stuff with the security guard that gets an alert about the doors or about you know what's going on
00:03:53.180 in the room and he winds up up there and gets shot at through the doors and initially we were told that
00:03:57.780 that happened after the shooting then it was revised to before then it was during the shooting so
00:04:04.400 there's some security guard stuff in the hallway but what the public found like experienced was
00:04:09.080 there at this jason aldean concert and at 10 0 5 in the evening a couple of distinct pops ring out 0.75
00:04:17.080 over the concert that we have on on footage we have footage of all sorts of shit around this story 0.53
00:04:21.760 and you can hear the pops individual like pop pop pop pop pop kind of things and then about a minute
00:04:29.220 later at uh 10 0 6 automatic gunfire just starts cracking in the night and people start to run they start
00:04:36.440 to scatter uh jason aldean still doesn't realize what's going on because the concert is super loud and he's
00:04:41.480 got his monitors going and all this stuff even though most of the eyewitnesses that were there claimed that
00:04:47.240 the first shot sounded like they were coming from the stage they sounded like they were very close
00:04:51.980 is what witnesses described they sounded like they were coming at them like from right there at the
00:04:55.660 stage um by the second volley which came a little less than a minute later jason aldean realizes he
00:05:03.900 gets pulled off stage and everyone's scattering and then over the course of about nine ten to nine to
00:05:09.260 ten minutes 12 volleys of automatic gunfire uh ring out in the night and are captured on body cams
00:05:16.080 they're captured on cell phone videos they're captured on you know various recordings and you
00:05:20.580 can hear them all across the las vegas strip and then the official story is that stephen paddock
00:05:27.140 barricaded in his room up on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay who he's knocked out a window so he
00:05:32.620 can shoot through the window he's actually knocked out a window in both of these suites and he's running
00:05:36.180 back and forth between them and shooting his bolt action rifle and then shooting his bump stock ars and
00:05:42.340 spraying this concert with with bullets and he allegedly shot more than a thousand rounds from
00:05:48.660 that room um used multiple ars even though one would have done the trick and then allegedly he
00:05:58.640 just got bored or sick of it and just committed suicide with no cops at the door with no reason to
00:06:05.180 stop with no real explanation for why he stopped he just stopped shot himself in the head with a
00:06:12.620 revolver and that was the end of the shooting and no other shooting took place no other gunmen were
00:06:18.340 there no other things happened that night at all that's the official narrative just this one guy with
00:06:24.140 no motive no manifesto no explanation of why just did that and then checked out in the meantime
00:06:32.960 the concerts tripping out there's all sorts of other things that are definitively happening all
00:06:38.460 across the las vegas strip in the air at the airport at the other casinos which we'll get to
00:06:42.900 but um the police response to the alleged lone gunman is they this security guard that had come up
00:06:51.880 and had gotten shot at he had discovered that the door to that floor from the stairwell was bolted
00:06:58.920 shut um and so he had gone down gone up the s the elevator and then at that point had gotten shot at
00:07:05.160 through the door um we found out that there was cameras kind of set up outside the room so someone
00:07:09.800 had visibility outside the room but so the cops get up into the stairwell right by this guy's room
00:07:15.600 and they are within a minute or two of the shooting ending they're like outside the stairwell door
00:07:21.780 that's barricaded and they're just waiting there and they wind up waiting there allegedly for SWAT
00:07:26.520 teams to show up so they can bust through that door and then over an hour after the shooting has ended
00:07:32.780 and he's allegedly shot himself finally the SWAT has the SWAT which we'll get to has busted through
00:07:39.700 this stairwell door and they're on the floor and then they reach his hotel room door um and we have
00:07:46.480 one body cam of this that is very suspicious and he's dead there on the floor and they secure the
00:07:52.400 room and it's all over but immediately the public was completely not with that explanation because
00:08:03.320 everyone that had been there had experienced something completely different than that
00:08:06.600 and everything that was coming out from the l from the lvmpd um las vegas metro police department
00:08:13.440 they had changed their their stories had been strange during the night uh things that had
00:08:20.360 obviously happened things that were recorded on body cams things that had been witnessed all across
00:08:25.180 the las vegas strip were completely absent from what they were telling people had happened
00:08:29.340 and every single person that was there had heard the gunfire that was clearly
00:08:33.540 not the firing of ar platforms it was clearly some sort of and i'm not the weapons expert on this but
00:08:40.400 there's lots of them there it was a country music concert and the consensus was that it sounded like
00:08:44.900 belt-fed machine guns of some sort and when you watch the video footage which is available online
00:08:50.660 and we'll talk about some cool resources online the video footage very clearly can be heard that this
00:08:56.800 is something else but you can also hear there's multiple guns being fired at once and you can hear that
00:09:01.900 some of these machine guns are in different locations while they're simultaneously firing just from the way they sound
00:09:07.640 you can hear
00:09:08.760 lots of different stuff going on just in those 12 volleys of automatic gunfire
00:09:13.460 but just to sort of tease
00:09:16.360 out the audience on how many things we're going to have to talk about to get to the bottom of this
00:09:21.060 we have
00:09:22.760 for example at midnight
00:09:25.900 more than like an hour and a half after this guy's allegedly shot himself in the head
00:09:29.580 we have at least nine different police body cams that are public on the internet right now that
00:09:35.580 you can go watch where all nine of them at 11 59 i think it is all of them in different locations
00:09:41.520 around the strip record like seven to five volleys of automatic gunfire somewhere down by the bellagio
00:09:47.240 and i say seven to five because some of their body cams capture
00:09:51.800 the later five and some of them capture an earlier two as well
00:09:55.360 and in between there
00:09:57.260 you can hear the police dispatch saying
00:09:59.840 we got reports of shots of bellagio shots of bellagio and then
00:10:03.200 all throughout the night there's all sorts of body cam footage
00:10:05.800 talking about we've got a suspect at tropicana
00:10:08.240 we got a gunman at tropicana we've got
00:10:10.040 someone at bellagio we got someone in the mirage
00:10:12.100 there's basically something is happening at various times throughout the night
00:10:16.140 generally in a northward pattern
00:10:18.540 at almost every casino on the strip
00:10:20.580 um
00:10:21.860 some of them are far more corroborated than others
00:10:24.020 like the bellagio there is dozens and dozens and dozens of
00:10:27.540 9-1-1 calls
00:10:28.880 there's body cam footage with stuff like i just described
00:10:31.960 so there's stuff happening in the casinos that clearly
00:10:35.160 doesn't line up with one lone gunman in one window
00:10:38.660 that's been dead for an hour two hours by the time these reports are coming in
00:10:42.320 then there's stuff that happens at the airport
00:10:45.520 um and there's lots of stuff that happens at the airport
00:10:48.580 but the simple tease of that is that
00:10:50.900 we actually have the audio from the control tower
00:10:54.500 air traffic control
00:10:55.740 saying um i think it's about an hour
00:11:00.120 what would it be it's it's not an hour
00:11:02.300 it's at 10 35
00:11:03.720 so paddock allegedly kills himself
00:11:07.260 somewhere around 10 16 to 10 18
00:11:10.520 at 10 35 air traffic control says we have an active shooter on the runway
00:11:14.740 on the runway
00:11:16.260 on the runway
00:11:16.860 and we have a really
00:11:18.640 on the airport run
00:11:19.480 on the airport run
00:11:20.120 at mccarran
00:11:20.420 at the main
00:11:20.960 yeah
00:11:21.460 wow
00:11:21.960 although they renamed it but yeah at mccarran airport
00:11:23.920 the harry reed
00:11:24.640 yeah which is right there next to the concert
00:11:26.400 it's like you know two blocks over
00:11:27.600 yeah that's an in-town airport but it's a huge airport
00:11:29.700 huge airport
00:11:30.280 and at the time there is a police helicopter circling over top
00:11:34.420 looking at trying to figure out what's going on at the airport
00:11:36.740 because something big happened at the airport
00:11:38.780 but the footage that we eventually that journalists got released
00:11:42.800 feels very doctored
00:11:44.360 because it's it's it's pointing at one weird angle
00:11:47.760 and it's spiraling around
00:11:48.800 so you only get very small glimpses of what's on the runway
00:11:51.400 but you do see several groups of people
00:11:53.980 walking around on the runway
00:11:55.620 and it's in infrared
00:11:56.940 and there's a couple of these groups of people
00:11:59.360 that look like they're wearing black things
00:12:01.720 they have black things
00:12:02.680 which in infrared is steel
00:12:04.620 is you know no heat
00:12:06.460 so guns body armor
00:12:08.160 those sorts of things would show up in black
00:12:09.640 so there's visual of stuff happening on the runway
00:12:12.040 there's air traffic control saying
00:12:14.240 we have an active shooter on the runway
00:12:15.600 and then one minute later
00:12:16.920 someone comes onto that radio call
00:12:18.540 and says 0.99
00:12:19.020 i want you to kill the lights 0.99
00:12:20.240 on this runway and that runway 1.00
00:12:21.540 kill the lights
00:12:23.780 yeah turn off the lights 0.98
00:12:24.540 and they turned off the lights at the airport
00:12:25.760 for a certain amount of time
00:12:26.700 we don't know exactly
00:12:27.340 and that's recorded
00:12:27.880 how long it's recorded
00:12:28.720 it's on audio
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00:13:49.700 if you thought you had
00:13:51.760 a man with a gun
00:13:52.980 somewhere at night
00:13:54.540 why would you turn off the lights
00:13:56.280 well the only reason
00:13:57.740 that I would think of
00:13:58.780 the most obvious reason
00:13:59.720 that I would think of
00:14:00.340 is because
00:14:00.840 you also are doing things there
00:14:03.700 that will benefit you
00:14:04.680 to have
00:14:05.260 the darkness
00:14:06.100 to get away
00:14:07.080 or to
00:14:07.780 finish what you're doing
00:14:09.540 or something
00:14:10.020 and we're going to come back
00:14:11.580 to all that
00:14:12.040 because
00:14:12.400 there's what we
00:14:13.840 were told happened
00:14:15.100 and then there's what we have
00:14:16.380 evidence did happen
00:14:17.680 and then there's
00:14:18.920 theories of
00:14:20.080 how could you possibly
00:14:21.720 explain all of that
00:14:22.960 in a rational way
00:14:24.680 that would actually
00:14:25.440 fit it all together
00:14:27.300 because
00:14:27.840 right now
00:14:28.660 the public has this
00:14:29.660 experience with Charlie Kirk's
00:14:31.240 assassination unfortunately
00:14:32.260 where
00:14:33.580 when a crime is committed
00:14:35.300 obviously
00:14:36.020 the actual explanation
00:14:37.740 will explain
00:14:38.380 all the facts
00:14:39.160 some of them might be
00:14:40.840 weird coincidences
00:14:42.060 some of them might just be
00:14:43.620 crazy circumstances
00:14:45.000 but the actual
00:14:47.140 explanation of what
00:14:48.020 really did happen
00:14:48.900 really does explain
00:14:50.380 every single fact
00:14:51.260 about a situation
00:14:52.020 right
00:14:52.380 like that's just
00:14:53.400 the nature of reality
00:14:54.200 you know what I mean
00:14:55.040 when you know
00:14:56.300 the real explanation
00:14:57.020 everything fits
00:14:58.380 and it can be bizarre
00:15:00.760 it can be
00:15:01.800 anomalous
00:15:02.680 sometimes
00:15:03.260 but it has to
00:15:04.920 be
00:15:05.620 that real explanation
00:15:06.720 will suddenly
00:15:07.340 click
00:15:08.080 into place
00:15:08.800 and in other words
00:15:10.240 the facts
00:15:11.700 have to drive
00:15:12.360 the explanation
00:15:13.040 rather than the
00:15:13.960 explanation driving
00:15:14.740 the facts
00:15:15.040 and so
00:15:16.560 when it comes to
00:15:17.420 Vegas
00:15:17.780 there's actually
00:15:19.400 after citizens
00:15:20.980 journalists
00:15:21.540 media
00:15:22.440 pushed so hard
00:15:24.260 they sued
00:15:25.100 they went through
00:15:26.200 years of fighting
00:15:27.240 to get the most
00:15:28.000 basic stuff released
00:15:29.380 like
00:15:30.080 autopsies
00:15:31.280 body cam footage
00:15:33.140 audios
00:15:33.980 basic reports
00:15:36.220 about
00:15:36.700 you know
00:15:37.360 police reports
00:15:37.940 and such
00:15:38.340 about what had
00:15:39.060 happened
00:15:39.360 things that
00:15:39.900 very much should
00:15:40.980 have been public
00:15:41.540 and forthcoming
00:15:42.620 that weren't
00:15:43.920 and they had to sue
00:15:45.020 the LVMPD
00:15:46.120 they had to sue
00:15:46.900 the coroner
00:15:47.580 personally
00:15:48.260 in order to get
00:15:49.000 the autopsy
00:15:49.580 of Stephen Paddock
00:15:50.660 released
00:15:51.040 I think he
00:15:52.820 eventually wound up
00:15:53.680 paying like
00:15:54.020 $32,000
00:15:54.680 or something like
00:15:55.380 that
00:15:55.620 and so
00:15:56.920 after all that
00:15:57.920 stuff got released
00:15:58.620 we actually have
00:15:59.400 quite a bit
00:16:00.560 like a huge
00:16:01.600 body
00:16:01.960 of evidence
00:16:02.680 it would take
00:16:03.340 the average person
00:16:04.120 months to
00:16:05.160 acquaint themselves
00:16:05.800 with all of
00:16:06.440 this stuff
00:16:07.380 which is why
00:16:08.800 I gave that
00:16:09.200 disclaimer at the
00:16:09.800 start
00:16:10.040 that I wasn't
00:16:10.740 there and I
00:16:11.240 wasn't one of
00:16:12.040 the researchers
00:16:12.480 at the start
00:16:13.120 and I had to
00:16:14.240 try to
00:16:14.640 become acquainted
00:16:16.140 with the story
00:16:16.820 after the fact
00:16:17.580 which is a
00:16:18.160 monumental task
00:16:19.020 and so I'm
00:16:20.480 leaning on the
00:16:21.000 shoulders of all
00:16:21.500 these people
00:16:22.000 that did all
00:16:23.220 this incredible
00:16:23.700 work to try
00:16:24.480 to uncover
00:16:24.860 this
00:16:25.180 and then to
00:16:26.080 theorize about
00:16:26.600 what really
00:16:26.940 happened
00:16:27.260 and there's
00:16:29.340 still a certain
00:16:29.840 amount you're
00:16:30.240 never going to
00:16:30.760 get back
00:16:31.220 when you look
00:16:31.800 backwards at
00:16:32.260 these kinds
00:16:32.600 of things
00:16:32.920 because so
00:16:33.420 much gets
00:16:33.720 covered up
00:16:34.220 so much
00:16:35.160 requires you
00:16:36.000 to have been
00:16:36.300 there or
00:16:36.740 to have talked
00:16:37.180 to the witnesses
00:16:37.740 whatever it is
00:16:38.800 and surprise
00:16:40.280 a number of
00:16:41.320 the witnesses
00:16:41.680 that were most
00:16:42.300 vocal about
00:16:42.860 the fact
00:16:43.220 that there
00:16:43.440 was more
00:16:43.700 than one
00:16:44.000 shooter
00:16:44.240 actually died
00:16:45.020 strange deaths
00:16:46.640 in the weeks
00:16:47.180 following
00:16:47.620 like people
00:16:48.560 that were
00:16:48.780 taking to
00:16:49.180 Twitter
00:16:49.440 or Facebook
00:16:51.860 and being
00:16:53.380 very vocal
00:16:53.900 about their
00:16:54.220 testimony
00:16:54.540 that no I
00:16:55.340 guarantee you
00:16:55.860 it was more
00:16:56.160 than one
00:16:56.420 shooter
00:16:56.580 I know
00:16:56.900 it was more
00:16:57.160 than one
00:16:57.400 shooter
00:16:57.620 multiple
00:16:58.680 different
00:16:59.000 people that
00:16:59.380 were doing
00:16:59.680 that died
00:17:00.720 in things
00:17:01.100 like car
00:17:01.520 crashes
00:17:01.860 or of like
00:17:02.800 weird medical
00:17:04.100 conditions
00:17:04.300 actually
00:17:04.740 yeah so
00:17:05.500 I don't know
00:17:06.560 the number
00:17:07.000 of exactly
00:17:07.520 how many
00:17:07.980 because those
00:17:09.660 are harder
00:17:10.060 to trace
00:17:10.420 down and
00:17:10.780 confirm
00:17:11.160 but I know
00:17:11.980 for a fact
00:17:12.540 like for
00:17:13.100 example
00:17:13.460 there was a
00:17:13.860 couple
00:17:14.120 that died
00:17:15.600 in a car
00:17:15.980 wreck
00:17:16.200 that had
00:17:17.100 been there
00:17:17.640 and had
00:17:17.940 survived
00:17:18.400 and that had
00:17:19.100 been I think
00:17:19.840 it was the
00:17:20.100 husband that
00:17:20.500 had been
00:17:20.720 pretty vocal
00:17:21.140 online about
00:17:21.960 how there was
00:17:22.560 more than one
00:17:22.940 shooter
00:17:23.180 and they're
00:17:24.140 they're both
00:17:24.880 in a car
00:17:25.180 wreck and
00:17:25.420 they die
00:17:25.780 there's another
00:17:27.040 woman that 0.97
00:17:27.780 had been
00:17:29.720 extremely vocal
00:17:30.420 and had one
00:17:30.900 of the most
00:17:31.240 sort of viral
00:17:31.940 multiple shooter
00:17:32.860 testimonies
00:17:33.440 that I think
00:17:34.840 that she died
00:17:35.420 of a health
00:17:35.900 thing
00:17:36.180 one of them
00:17:37.640 one of them
00:17:38.100 died of like
00:17:38.660 a random
00:17:39.820 like kind of
00:17:40.440 robbery
00:17:40.960 shooting kind
00:17:41.600 of thing
00:17:41.820 and those
00:17:43.080 ones are
00:17:43.460 those things
00:17:44.020 are harder
00:17:44.380 and harder
00:17:44.740 to confirm
00:17:47.320 because
00:17:48.300 there's not as
00:17:49.900 much reporting
00:17:50.360 about a single
00:17:50.980 random person's
00:17:51.800 death
00:17:52.000 sort of like
00:17:52.700 a nobody
00:17:53.460 so to speak
00:17:54.520 and by then
00:17:55.640 the apparent
00:17:57.020 cover-up was
00:17:57.680 in very much
00:17:58.500 full swing
00:17:58.920 but it's
00:17:59.920 pretty well
00:18:00.480 confirmed
00:18:00.820 that at
00:18:02.340 least a fair
00:18:03.060 at least a
00:18:03.940 handful
00:18:04.200 of survivors
00:18:05.440 that were
00:18:05.900 vocal about
00:18:06.860 the story
00:18:07.260 being wrong
00:18:07.740 happened to
00:18:09.080 die 0.92
00:18:09.280 and maybe
00:18:09.960 that's just
00:18:10.320 all coincidences
00:18:11.060 but
00:18:11.480 there's no
00:18:14.680 coincidental
00:18:15.200 explanation for
00:18:15.900 the number
00:18:16.460 of things
00:18:18.000 that don't
00:18:19.400 fit that
00:18:19.780 narrative
00:18:20.140 that night
00:18:20.780 and
00:18:22.360 so now
00:18:23.580 we've kind
00:18:23.880 of covered
00:18:24.280 the
00:18:25.460 official
00:18:27.160 narrative
00:18:27.560 lone gunman
00:18:28.580 no explanation
00:18:29.880 and that is
00:18:30.740 their official
00:18:31.160 explanation is
00:18:31.780 that there was
00:18:32.240 no why
00:18:32.840 they never
00:18:33.200 figured out
00:18:33.600 why
00:18:33.820 and that
00:18:35.400 it ended
00:18:35.960 by you
00:18:37.180 know 10
00:18:37.840 16 or
00:18:38.820 10 18
00:18:39.300 and that
00:18:40.320 was it
00:18:40.660 and nothing
00:18:41.420 else is
00:18:41.760 true
00:18:41.960 so
00:18:43.660 after the
00:18:45.360 fact I'm
00:18:45.900 come to
00:18:46.480 this story
00:18:46.960 trying to
00:18:47.620 learn about
00:18:47.980 it
00:18:48.160 and I
00:18:49.300 spend a
00:18:49.680 number of
00:18:50.020 days
00:18:50.320 digging
00:18:50.600 through
00:18:50.860 various
00:18:51.160 people's
00:18:51.560 documentaries
00:18:52.020 and various
00:18:52.540 people's
00:18:52.840 YouTube
00:18:53.020 channels
00:18:53.440 and various
00:18:53.820 people's
00:18:54.160 reporting
00:18:54.580 about it
00:18:55.220 sifting
00:18:56.060 through
00:18:56.280 kind of
00:18:56.580 all the
00:18:56.820 old
00:18:56.980 material
00:18:57.440 and I
00:18:57.740 wind up
00:18:58.060 I stumble
00:18:58.960 across this
00:18:59.420 website called
00:19:00.160 Vegas
00:19:00.460 shooting map
00:19:00.980 dot com
00:19:01.440 and I
00:19:02.780 don't know
00:19:03.020 who made
00:19:03.360 Vegas
00:19:03.620 shooting
00:19:03.840 map
00:19:04.060 dot com
00:19:04.460 but whoever
00:19:04.880 they are
00:19:05.300 they are
00:19:05.640 a hero
00:19:06.080 because what
00:19:06.820 they did
00:19:07.320 is they made
00:19:07.840 a website
00:19:08.240 using Google's
00:19:09.240 map tools
00:19:10.380 to build a
00:19:11.980 archived map
00:19:13.580 that is
00:19:14.580 actually overlaid
00:19:15.860 over Google Maps
00:19:16.540 that has
00:19:17.500 little pins
00:19:18.480 for every
00:19:19.060 single piece
00:19:19.600 of original
00:19:20.300 documented
00:19:20.960 not literally
00:19:21.860 every piece
00:19:22.300 but hundreds
00:19:23.560 and hundreds
00:19:23.940 of 911
00:19:24.380 calls
00:19:24.900 actually sourced
00:19:26.220 click it
00:19:26.640 and then you're
00:19:27.020 at the 911
00:19:27.540 call
00:19:27.900 listening to
00:19:28.400 the audio
00:19:28.880 time stamped
00:19:29.820 out for when
00:19:30.440 the first
00:19:30.800 volley is
00:19:31.180 when the
00:19:31.460 second
00:19:31.640 volley is
00:19:32.000 when the
00:19:32.260 third
00:19:32.420 volley is
00:19:32.860 or it's
00:19:33.400 a reported
00:19:33.900 shooting at
00:19:34.300 Tropicana
00:19:34.780 and you can
00:19:35.180 listen to
00:19:35.600 the audio
00:19:36.340 of this
00:19:36.680 911
00:19:36.980 call
00:19:37.400 and it's
00:19:38.480 so it's
00:19:38.720 like this
00:19:39.500 invaluable
00:19:40.040 resource of
00:19:40.800 calls and
00:19:41.760 autopsies
00:19:42.620 the death
00:19:43.520 reports
00:19:44.020 police body
00:19:45.320 cam footage
00:19:45.840 cell phone
00:19:46.440 videos
00:19:46.760 I don't
00:19:47.140 know who
00:19:47.400 made it
00:19:47.640 that is
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00:20:59.960 yeah the amount
00:21:00.900 of effort that
00:21:01.440 went into making
00:21:01.960 it might have
00:21:02.300 been multiple
00:21:02.600 people
00:21:02.940 and I've
00:21:04.140 asked around
00:21:04.520 a little bit
00:21:04.860 and I've
00:21:05.080 never gotten
00:21:05.380 an answer
00:21:05.720 as to who
00:21:06.120 made it
00:21:06.320 can you say
00:21:06.640 the name
00:21:06.880 of the site
00:21:07.200 Vegas Shooting Map
00:21:08.900 dot com
00:21:09.480 Vegas Shooting Map
00:21:10.240 now whenever I
00:21:11.020 type V-E-G 0.69
00:21:11.900 into my web browser
00:21:13.060 it suggests
00:21:13.840 Vegas Shooting Map
00:21:14.620 because I've been
00:21:15.340 there so many times
00:21:16.360 and so
00:21:18.260 for me
00:21:18.900 when I stumbled
00:21:19.420 across that
00:21:20.060 that's a goldmine
00:21:21.180 because
00:21:21.520 any story
00:21:23.040 that's been
00:21:23.440 covered up
00:21:23.900 any story
00:21:24.540 that you
00:21:25.000 suspect
00:21:25.720 foul play
00:21:27.020 in the reporting
00:21:27.700 or in the
00:21:28.320 mainstream
00:21:28.940 kind of narrative
00:21:29.780 the first thing
00:21:30.920 you have to do
00:21:31.280 is hone in
00:21:31.680 on what are
00:21:32.040 the documented
00:21:33.000 primary source
00:21:34.380 facts
00:21:34.800 that we can read
00:21:35.960 and understand
00:21:36.640 and see
00:21:37.160 and hear
00:21:37.580 and
00:21:38.880 so then
00:21:40.480 I just started
00:21:40.900 sifting through
00:21:41.400 and I started
00:21:41.780 watching body
00:21:42.360 camps
00:21:42.620 and I started
00:21:43.060 listening to
00:21:43.780 911 calls
00:21:44.420 and I started
00:21:44.800 re-piecing it
00:21:45.300 together for
00:21:45.620 myself
00:21:46.000 because I found
00:21:46.580 there's a number
00:21:47.640 of really great
00:21:48.400 reporters that I'll
00:21:49.360 credit throughout here
00:21:50.280 like John Cullen
00:21:51.140 and Jason Goodman
00:21:51.900 and Mindy Robinson
00:21:52.620 and yourself
00:21:53.940 you did some
00:21:54.480 on it too
00:21:54.940 Alex Jones
00:21:55.920 did some on it
00:21:56.520 I got nothing
00:21:57.200 but it didn't
00:21:58.080 smell right
00:21:58.660 well you at least
00:21:59.500 spoke up
00:22:00.060 you at least
00:22:00.800 were someone
00:22:01.160 that was in
00:22:01.540 that mainstream
00:22:01.980 media space
00:22:02.740 that was not
00:22:03.700 buying it
00:22:04.280 because it was
00:22:05.120 just 0.61
00:22:05.480 it stank 0.72
00:22:06.940 and so there's 0.96
00:22:08.120 all these people
00:22:08.720 that have made
00:22:09.460 media that synthesizes
00:22:10.680 it and made
00:22:11.160 media that speculates
00:22:12.260 and takes it much
00:22:12.980 much further
00:22:13.540 especially into the
00:22:14.280 Saudi angle that
00:22:14.960 we'll talk about
00:22:15.620 but for me I was
00:22:18.440 like I need to
00:22:18.860 start with
00:22:19.400 understanding the
00:22:19.980 information and
00:22:20.620 see if I can
00:22:21.240 arrive at a
00:22:22.460 similar factual
00:22:24.180 understanding of
00:22:25.040 like when I look
00:22:25.840 at the original
00:22:26.340 evidence without
00:22:27.060 these narratives on
00:22:27.960 it do I arrive at
00:22:29.280 a similar conclusion
00:22:30.060 and immediately
00:22:30.780 it's it only
00:22:32.000 takes you like
00:22:32.640 five clicks
00:22:33.420 on random
00:22:34.420 pieces of evidence
00:22:35.080 on that map
00:22:35.700 to realize that
00:22:36.780 it's clearly not
00:22:37.600 a lone gunman
00:22:38.240 in the Mandalay Bay
00:22:39.080 because how would
00:22:40.120 I have this
00:22:40.640 massive cluster
00:22:41.820 of 911 calls
00:22:43.000 coming from the
00:22:43.540 Bellagio which is
00:22:44.400 like I don't know
00:22:45.900 like half a mile
00:22:46.620 to a mile up the
00:22:47.540 strip it's like a
00:22:48.220 giant block and a
00:22:49.020 half if you've ever
00:22:49.660 been to Vegas
00:22:50.160 it's Vegas is a
00:22:51.660 crazy place of
00:22:52.660 gigantic monolithic
00:22:54.220 buildings of sin
00:22:55.820 that it stretches
00:22:57.820 on and on and on
00:22:58.700 and the Bellagio is
00:22:59.780 way up on the
00:23:00.600 northern end of the
00:23:01.220 strip and the
00:23:01.880 Mandalay Bay is the
00:23:02.560 southernmost building
00:23:03.360 and most of these
00:23:04.800 calls come in an
00:23:06.080 hour and more after
00:23:07.420 Paddock has allegedly
00:23:08.300 killed himself and
00:23:09.580 we're talking like
00:23:10.760 people that work
00:23:12.460 there we're talking
00:23:13.040 security guards we're
00:23:14.140 talking victims
00:23:15.460 people alleging that
00:23:16.860 they've seen the
00:23:17.500 shooter describing the
00:23:18.500 shooter and it
00:23:19.320 happens in multiple
00:23:20.000 waves and then a
00:23:21.600 lot of them are
00:23:22.000 clustered around for
00:23:22.720 example those nine
00:23:23.640 body cams that
00:23:24.480 capture audio of
00:23:25.800 multiple bursts of
00:23:27.440 automatic fire
00:23:28.160 while we're getting
00:23:29.640 911 calls from the
00:23:30.660 Bellagio saying that
00:23:31.800 there's active
00:23:32.220 shooters at the
00:23:32.900 Bellagio while the
00:23:34.240 police dispatcher is
00:23:35.140 saying we've got a
00:23:36.060 shooter at the
00:23:36.420 Bellagio so when you
00:23:39.120 dig into this primary
00:23:40.100 source evidence you
00:23:41.180 very quickly realize
00:23:42.480 that this is not just
00:23:44.760 Paddock it's not a
00:23:45.540 lone gunman and so
00:23:47.180 once I familiarized
00:23:47.900 myself with that then I
00:23:49.180 expanded out to like
00:23:49.980 okay so then what did
00:23:50.740 the people that did all
00:23:51.540 this work what did they
00:23:52.460 conclude what was their
00:23:54.040 understanding of this
00:23:55.040 evidence and where did
00:23:56.240 they take a possible
00:23:57.420 explanation and that's
00:23:59.120 where it gets really
00:24:00.140 interesting and we
00:24:00.960 don't know for sure
00:24:01.900 but but I think
00:24:04.520 there's actually a
00:24:05.160 pretty a pretty solid
00:24:06.680 lead and whatever it
00:24:09.180 is it's still at play
00:24:10.480 in the modern the
00:24:12.220 modern information
00:24:13.120 space because anytime
00:24:17.660 you have one of these
00:24:18.420 shootings or you know
00:24:20.000 false flag events or
00:24:21.360 anything that gets
00:24:22.400 covered up on the
00:24:23.080 scale right if you buy
00:24:25.900 the mainstream narrative
00:24:26.740 all bets are off you
00:24:29.200 know there's no facts
00:24:30.140 there there's no
00:24:30.880 understanding of reality
00:24:31.940 there if you buy the
00:24:32.760 mainstream narrative
00:24:33.300 about 9-11 you have
00:24:34.780 no level of
00:24:35.260 understanding of even
00:24:36.540 how many buildings fell
00:24:37.460 or why they felt like
00:24:38.380 let alone who could
00:24:39.500 have you know brought
00:24:40.300 these towers down the
00:24:41.020 way they came down who
00:24:42.460 could have you know
00:24:43.440 guarded these hijackers 0.97
00:24:45.520 the way that they were
00:24:46.080 guarded all the way
00:24:47.000 there funded it etc
00:24:48.840 but um once you realize
00:24:53.120 that the mainstream
00:24:53.600 narrative on one of
00:24:54.260 these events is for
00:24:55.000 sure not the whole
00:24:56.240 story then you
00:24:58.620 actually open up to
00:24:59.840 a whole world of uh
00:25:02.000 almost any explanation
00:25:04.040 is possible right it's
00:25:05.580 if it's a shooting and
00:25:06.980 you don't even know who
00:25:07.720 perpetrated it you don't
00:25:08.840 even know how many
00:25:09.460 shooters there were you
00:25:10.560 don't even really know
00:25:11.240 what guns were used and
00:25:12.720 there's no forthcoming
00:25:13.500 information with the
00:25:14.160 authorities well then
00:25:15.720 journalists have a
00:25:16.700 monumental task ahead
00:25:17.760 of them right to a
00:25:20.160 uncover the evidence and
00:25:21.120 b try to fit any
00:25:22.440 possible motive and
00:25:24.720 perpetrator to the
00:25:25.640 crime and i think
00:25:26.800 that's the most
00:25:27.300 interesting question in
00:25:28.060 the las vegas one in
00:25:28.780 my mind is who has
00:25:31.720 the motive to do such
00:25:33.700 a horrible thing right
00:25:35.280 because um well it
00:25:40.800 depends what the goal
00:25:41.540 was exactly like why
00:25:43.440 are we doing this
00:25:44.180 because if it's lone
00:25:44.860 gunman paddock i mean a
00:25:46.500 he can't do the things
00:25:47.340 that we actually have
00:25:47.840 evidence happened but
00:25:49.080 like even if it's just a
00:25:49.940 lone gunman why are you
00:25:51.180 shooting down into a
00:25:51.960 crowd of people even
00:25:52.880 even a crazed shooter
00:25:54.020 has a motive and you
00:25:54.880 can trace that through
00:25:55.580 their life but when you
00:25:57.360 realize that well no
00:25:58.840 that's not all that
00:25:59.440 happened i mean there
00:26:00.200 was spraying of bullets
00:26:01.980 down into this crowd
00:26:03.260 but then there was
00:26:04.100 shootings happening at
00:26:05.060 all these other hotels
00:26:06.620 at least at some of
00:26:07.760 them even if some of
00:26:08.440 these reports are fake
00:26:09.140 they can't all be fake
00:26:10.180 and then there's things
00:26:11.440 happening at the
00:26:12.060 airport that are that
00:26:13.220 are strange that there's
00:26:14.360 some shooting happening
00:26:14.960 at the airport so it's
00:26:15.680 like are we is this a
00:26:18.220 gang war between like
00:26:19.580 the italian mob and
00:26:20.580 the jewish mob is
00:26:21.360 this a is this a cia
00:26:23.920 operation that went
00:26:24.840 wrong is it like a
00:26:25.460 jason bourne movie that
00:26:26.600 then they're covering up
00:26:27.360 the tracks of like
00:26:28.100 jason bourne's like
00:26:29.020 killing spree is this
00:26:31.280 like a massad like
00:26:33.200 operation and any of
00:26:35.760 those things would need
00:26:37.120 to fit the facts right
00:26:38.920 and you can kind of try
00:26:41.420 to like in lieu of
00:26:43.360 enough facts you can
00:26:44.280 always try to fit you
00:26:45.340 know the right you can
00:26:46.460 try to fit a perpetrator
00:26:47.420 to the facts and sort
00:26:48.220 of invent explanations
00:26:49.620 that will work but when
00:26:51.100 the crime for me what
00:26:52.840 kind of kept sticking in
00:26:53.860 my mind is how heinous
00:26:56.700 the crime against these
00:26:58.740 festival goers was it
00:27:00.400 just did not seem to
00:27:01.600 match the other stuff
00:27:03.420 that was happening that
00:27:04.260 night that was that
00:27:05.600 because we don't have
00:27:07.340 random women like shot 1.00
00:27:09.640 in the face in the
00:27:11.040 Tropicana and in New
00:27:12.100 York New York and in the
00:27:13.360 Bellagio at least we
00:27:15.760 don't know of that if
00:27:17.180 that happened it was
00:27:17.980 all covered up there
00:27:19.120 was shooting reported
00:27:20.080 in all those places all
00:27:21.340 these other hotels all
00:27:22.400 down the strip at the
00:27:23.720 airport and everything
00:27:24.460 and there are victims
00:27:26.260 that are dead in other
00:27:27.240 places mostly there's
00:27:28.400 like over near the
00:27:29.380 airport and kind of in
00:27:30.500 a few hotels kind of in
00:27:31.940 the direction of the
00:27:32.640 airport coupled down by
00:27:34.040 the Tropicana who are
00:27:35.600 dead yeah it's and you 0.60
00:27:37.940 have to sort through it
00:27:38.680 really sift through it
00:27:39.460 really carefully because
00:27:40.240 some of them it could
00:27:41.000 have I think were
00:27:42.420 were confirmed to be
00:27:43.460 festival goers that were
00:27:44.380 hit and injured and
00:27:45.280 escaping and then died
00:27:47.000 of their injuries further
00:27:48.140 out and so they can be
00:27:50.580 represented as having
00:27:51.380 died like you know over
00:27:52.720 there when technically
00:27:53.660 they were shot at the
00:27:54.320 festival but not all of
00:27:56.080 them and even at the
00:27:57.480 festival there's most of
00:28:00.060 the deaths happened right 0.95
00:28:00.900 in the middle of the
00:28:01.420 festival grounds but
00:28:02.440 there's a cluster of
00:28:03.920 about six bodies that
00:28:06.040 died at the far north
00:28:08.160 eastern side of the
00:28:09.940 festival grounds so the
00:28:10.860 opposite side of the
00:28:11.780 Mandalay Bay where the
00:28:12.580 shooter allegedly was and
00:28:13.980 they were across a
00:28:14.960 barrier they're on the
00:28:15.700 other side of a barrier
00:28:16.360 that obscured line of
00:28:17.100 sight so they were not
00:28:18.500 visible to the Mandalay
00:28:19.440 Bay and there's a
00:28:20.280 cluster of four of them
00:28:21.220 along a fence line there
00:28:22.160 and then two in a
00:28:22.840 parking lot like right
00:28:23.540 next door that died
00:28:25.020 right there that very
00:28:25.940 much look like they were
00:28:26.820 shot right there not
00:28:27.960 that they escaped and
00:28:28.620 that would that be for
00:28:29.840 it he was shooting 223
00:28:31.600 primarily but also 308
00:28:32.960 yeah they had multiple
00:28:34.000 calibers in the room
00:28:35.120 would that be out of
00:28:37.180 range for the gun hey
00:28:38.720 I'm not the gun guy but
00:28:39.920 it certainly is there's
00:28:41.700 there's no world where
00:28:42.480 that's the shots that 0.88
00:28:43.280 were taken some of the
00:28:44.200 some of the rifles he
00:28:44.980 allegedly shot with didn't
00:28:45.860 even have scopes on them
00:28:46.720 he had he had rifles that
00:28:48.340 did have scopes but he
00:28:49.560 also had rifles that
00:28:50.320 didn't have scopes and
00:28:51.500 he had rifles that had
00:28:52.260 bump stocks and he had
00:28:53.040 some rifles that didn't
00:28:53.940 have bump stocks and
00:28:55.600 they allege the official
00:28:57.420 story is that he
00:28:58.160 switched back and forth
00:28:59.220 between different rifles
00:29:00.120 and some of them he
00:29:00.800 reloaded and some of them
00:29:01.760 he didn't and some of
00:29:03.220 them had scopes and some
00:29:04.160 of them didn't and he
00:29:04.880 fired some of the ones
00:29:05.660 that didn't have scopes
00:29:06.480 at this massive range
00:29:07.480 down into this crowd
00:29:08.360 um and we have a video from a police body cam right after the shooting walking through this
00:29:13.540 crowd with all this tragedy around them and he's talking to someone whether it's a medic or i'm not
00:29:18.880 sure exactly what he's talking to but they're commenting back and forth in a conversation
00:29:21.780 about how many direct like center headshots there are how many people like seem to have been
00:29:26.560 executed and the people in the crowd almost all of them believe that there were shooters on the
00:29:32.420 ground that there were shooters coming into the into the event venue from the entrances and
00:29:36.700 shooting into the crowd from the ground and then journalists picked up on this and started
00:29:41.120 researching it and i believe john cullen did a lot of work on getting the autopsy data actually
00:29:45.820 released and then analyzing and realizing that a bunch of these people were shot at parallel to
00:29:50.140 ground trajectories meaning that the shooter would have to be on the ground because if you're up in
00:29:54.460 a hotel balcony like in a hotel window at the 32nd floor the bullets will hit the ground they'll be
00:29:58.480 coming down and there are a lot of people that were shot at that angle and we'll talk about helicopters
00:30:03.100 in a second but there are a number of people that were shot parallel to the ground and it's like
00:30:07.640 were they all bullets that ricocheted off the ground and then like you know then went off and hit someone
00:30:13.100 at a near parallel to ground angle i doubt it then there was autopsies found where people were shot
00:30:18.240 directly down from above like straight down through them um and so as researchers started to pull on these
00:30:25.980 various threads like through the top of the head like through like from the air above them and it
00:30:31.960 didn't take like it didn't take until those autopsies came out it was the very first day that people were
00:30:37.060 already alleging that they believe there was helicopters shooting at them and there's helicopters
00:30:40.680 in the videos you can see the helicopters in the videos and the witnesses talk about helicopters having
00:30:44.760 been there in the air and a lot of them say that they suspect that the helicopters were shooting that
00:30:49.200 they felt like the helicopters were shooting at them but then when you read the official story
00:30:54.500 the police reports no mention of helicopters at all none of that at all it's just the lone gunman
00:30:59.220 and then when you look at the flight radar data from that night there are a lot of suspicious
00:31:04.280 helicopters that take off and land from and at the two helicopter operators in the airport there
00:31:10.220 um sundance and uh uh i'm blanking on the one that maverick sundance and maverick
00:31:16.820 but there's also helicopters john cullen do you know who john cullen is john cullen yeah we're gonna
00:31:24.700 we're gonna reference john cullen's work a lot tonight because he's this like like deeply autistic 1.00
00:31:29.920 type of researcher that just has a youtube channel that very few people have ever heard of yeah but
00:31:34.300 he's the sheriff with like the glasses right and he's like a very funny guy but he just like went
00:31:39.400 after this story for years and years and he's he's the type of detail oriented person that just that
00:31:45.880 that would get the baseline like i'll watch every sunday's flight patterns for six weeks so i can get
00:31:50.360 the baseline and then i'll track every single flight that went out this night so that i can
00:31:53.840 understand what's in the air and then i'll look at every single footage and oriented on the map and
00:31:57.980 get the get the lay with the time and then i'll know that like i know if i'm seeing a flight that's
00:32:02.840 on the flight patterns or if it's this thing in the air that we're seeing in this footage is not
00:32:06.880 documented and and he went through all this work extensively to very thoroughly prove that there
00:32:11.780 are many birds in the air that night that are not on the flight radar at all and they seem to have
00:32:16.360 flashing coming from them um they they very much seem to be involved in what's going on and so there's a
00:32:23.560 lot of videos that are on that map i was referring to that as you watch some of them are body cam and
00:32:28.700 some of them are cell phone videos and you can see these helicopters flying around behind the mandalay bay
00:32:34.500 and back around and around behind the mandalay bay and back around and you can see little flashes
00:32:38.560 coming peppering kind of the night sky from in between the two hotels that are there clearly out
00:32:44.620 in the sky um as though there was gunfire coming from an airborne craft of some sort and so that got a
00:32:54.500 lot of people thinking of who would that be and how would that happen and how would you get helicopters
00:33:00.200 into one of the most busy metropolitan airspaces in the world that's like this is an extremely
00:33:05.980 surveilled place um i mean not to mention the surveillance that we should have of all of these
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00:34:09.860 Las Vegas like leads the world for cctv doesn't it yeah and so none of that ever came out none of it
00:34:18.480 ever came out so we have so here's the thing which you know more about than me mgm owns like
00:34:24.600 you know 80 of the strip or whatever i'm exaggerating i think but it's mgm owns a huge
00:34:29.420 number of these casinos that are not named mgm and there is footage of this occurring in one instance
00:34:37.240 but there's testimony of it happening left and right of a hotel employee that was working that
00:34:43.840 night that was told that was basically forced to sign an nda that says you're not allowed to talk
00:34:48.060 about what happened last night nothing happened last night your lips are sealed and it very much
00:34:52.900 was a blanket gag order on all employees of these hotels none of the hotels gave out any footage they
00:34:59.300 all just locked everything down um and they even fought the police on the story to make the story
00:35:06.700 become something that would not make them look bad and an example of that is this security guy that i
00:35:12.360 was saying got shot at that we're going to come back to yes uh i remember this yeah uh jesus campos
00:35:17.800 jose yes right jose camp jose campos so he the first version of his story was that he came up the
00:35:26.060 door was bolted he went down he came up the elevator and then it was after the shooting had ended he gets
00:35:31.700 shot at through this door um and then escapes then that didn't really like square for whatever reason
00:35:39.160 and the police changed the story to like oh no actually that was three minutes before the shooting
00:35:43.900 started that he got shot at through the door so that must have been why steven paddock went crazy
00:35:48.220 all at once is because he realized he was running out of time yes yes and they're like that's cool
00:35:52.240 that's our narrative that's gonna work but then mgm was like well f you because that makes us look like 0.95
00:35:57.500 idiots right because then what are we talking what are we doing here like then we would have had 0.98
00:36:02.180 advance notice if our security guy got shot at three minutes before the shooting started we didn't 0.99
00:36:05.260 know any response so like that's not gonna work and so mgm actually got mad at the police and the
00:36:08.840 police changed their story again to be no actually jose campos got shot at about 40 seconds after the
00:36:16.340 shooting started during the shooting volleys is when they that's the third and final version of the
00:36:20.940 official story of jose campos and jose campos put out a statement that was something like
00:36:27.020 i do not contest that statement that was like his official statement very much canned and then
00:36:34.640 just like poof he was gone obviously wait didn't he wind up in mexico yeah there was a thing where
00:36:42.340 he was going to test his car to mexico yeah so i think it was that he was going to do a bunch of
00:36:47.220 news stories and he was kind of like lined up for a bunch of news hits and then he just like
00:36:51.400 actually he went to mexico who knows but then he got brought back and did ellen that's what it was
00:36:56.860 right yeah and he got brought back to do ellen ellen was sponsored by the casinos because you had all 1.00
00:37:02.200 the slot machines right so he did one ellen interview where ellen fed him all of his lines
00:37:07.080 and then he disappeared and that became the narrative for him has he ever emerged to tell his
00:37:11.840 story not that i know of um and to be fair i haven't done enough digging into his story yet there's
00:37:16.520 i mean to be fair i still i feel like i could spend another year digging into this and i still
00:37:21.260 would only be approaching the kind of expertise that some of these other guys have about it because
00:37:25.080 they did devote years and years and years to this um and there's just so much to learn and to look at
00:37:31.160 because it's such a crazy event with so many pieces of evidence and and campos is this one really
00:37:37.340 interesting one that exposes a lot of elements of what was going on here in that you had the hotel
00:37:42.100 the hotel's interests in their reputation their money whatever was going on you have the way that
00:37:47.060 hotel employees were a part of this thing but then had to you know represent after the thing you have
00:37:52.420 the police narrative involved in his story and you have a really important detail just in that like
00:37:58.020 a let's think it through if the sounds that we all hear in those videos this like
00:38:03.620 is happening inside of that hotel room and you can hear it all across the las vegas strip it's like
00:38:10.620 these are deafening sounds obviously if jose is in the hallway right outside of that door
00:38:17.420 you damn well better believe he remembers if that was happening when he got shot at yeah
00:38:23.140 someone's open opens up with automatic weapons it it resonates yeah it's not like campos doesn't 0.74
00:38:28.920 remember thought there were fireworks it's not like he changed his story because he didn't know if
00:38:32.720 there was this cacophony of automatic gunfire happening across the door obviously that is a
00:38:38.960 shifting narrative to meet various needs of whatever the narrative builders need um but
00:38:44.920 the the nature of him getting shot through that door is interesting once you start to put away the
00:38:50.920 mainstream narrative and just look at all the information as it is and try to figure out what
00:38:54.620 the hell was this and what went on here and we'll have to kind of rewind at the beginning to unpack that
00:38:59.920 because there's a lot of facts that we haven't even talked about yet that become very important
00:39:03.760 but trying to figure out what happened with him and why he got shot through the door at that moment
00:39:09.780 and maybe even when he did get shot through the door that's interesting because it involves the
00:39:14.160 fact that there was cameras rigged up outside the door facing into the hallway to surveil the hallway
00:39:18.960 for whatever to protect whatever was happening inside the room they weren't recording video but they
00:39:24.200 were live you know what i mean so so whoever was watching their feeds could see the other side could see
00:39:29.700 the hallway and so as a security guard approaches this door whenever he approached it um i mean based
00:39:35.720 upon the fact that the first testimony was that it was not when gunfire was happening actively i would
00:39:40.620 assume that he approached the door when there was no automatic gunfire happening actively um but i don't
00:39:45.500 know but whoever's in the room doing whatever they're doing and it was guaranteed it was definitely
00:39:50.840 more than one person and we can talk about the door locks in a minute they see a security guard on
00:39:56.100 these cameras and their response is to shoot a round of fire through the doorway at him to get
00:40:02.080 him to go away um or to kill him you know whatever and that's really weird that's really interesting 0.98
00:40:08.920 because obviously it implies that whatever's happening in the room you need him to not come 0.89
00:40:14.320 in you need him to not knock obviously so obviously there's something happening in the room that needs
00:40:18.260 to be finished before the heat comes but like we have pretty strong evidence at this point that paddock
00:40:26.180 was dead by then paddock was not a part of this and whatever was happening in the room it's like
00:40:31.700 what was happening in the room what were you doing that needed to be finished before the heat came to
00:40:36.280 that room because they had taken the time to put this tiny little l bracket this little metal l bracket
00:40:42.380 on the stairwell door so people couldn't come up the stairs onto the floor right next to their room
00:40:45.720 but it was like a little home depot thing it was not the kind of thing you need the swat team to
00:40:49.420 bust down um and they'd rigged up these cameras and so then it's like like okay your your brain if
00:40:56.440 you don't take the narrative the mainstream narrative at all it's like what what is this
00:40:59.460 is like a heist is this like a casino heist or something um which is not what i think it was but
00:41:04.320 it's just if you start to ask like what could that be that's happening in that room is it's like
00:41:07.640 oceans 11 and they need to like protect part of their heist or something until they get away with the
00:41:11.620 jewels it's like maybe that starts to explain a piece of this but that's what i mean
00:41:15.700 by like when you look at the original evidence and you try to square it with like an explanation
00:41:20.440 that fits it all it starts to get pretty fascinating and pretty weird and in order to do
00:41:25.400 that we have to rewind past campos back to the start because we know for a fact that paddock wasn't
00:41:31.900 alone in that room and we know for almost complete certain fact that he was dead before any of this
00:41:37.280 even happened any of the shooting yeah before any of the shooting happened and just to kind of we do
00:41:42.460 wet our whistle on that yeah yeah yeah um we don't know it for fact fact fact but the actual
00:41:46.900 official photo of of um paddock dead in the room like overhead looking down at him with the blood
00:41:52.740 stain yes there's very clearly two blood stains it's very clearly a dry blood stain that's been like
00:41:58.140 dried into the carpet that is one color and then a fresh like glistening red blood stain that is much
00:42:04.720 smaller and fresher and redder over top of it and there's blood on his chest in that photo for some 0.98
00:42:11.200 reason although if you commit suicide shoot yourself in the head there's no reason why you
00:42:16.880 would have a giant singular blood stain on your chest no um and and so really quickly while we're
00:42:23.300 in this room here at that moment let's unpack some of the other things that very much just debunk
00:42:28.640 this regular narrative that are hard evidence that you can view for yourself the swat team that they
00:42:35.580 were waiting for to breach his room they never came um although las vegas has one of the largest
00:42:40.820 teams in america one of the largest teams in the world they never came the actual team that breached
00:42:45.740 his room we have one body cam that shows it and they put out a report saying who was in the the
00:42:50.100 breaching party it was one swat officer i think it was two canine officers whose dogs they left back in
00:42:55.700 the cars and then a bunch of other police officers that just kind of like hodgepodge in there and that 0.96
00:43:00.300 becomes very important later when you start to ask where the fuck were the swat officers what were the 0.95
00:43:05.320 swat doing because they were doing something but they didn't they the story is that they're waiting 0.96
00:43:10.540 for the swat team and the mainstream media at first tried to run with like this crazy cnn actually has a
00:43:15.200 clip that i can give to you where the next day or two days later cnn is like tells a fantasy about how
00:43:20.900 the swat team busted down the door and paddock tried to fight his way through them and they had a gun
00:43:24.920 battle and paddock shot one of the swat guys in the leg what and almost and he got out into the
00:43:29.420 hall before they neutralized him yeah they just like literally made up fantasy on cnn live and we
00:43:34.360 have the recording i'll give it to you and and obviously that none of that happened at all and
00:43:39.240 we know now from eventual release of files documents and you know a body cam that it was only one swat
00:43:46.380 guy and all these other police officers and so we have this body cam from officer bitsco that they had
00:43:52.660 to fight to get released and we only have one because they told everyone to turn their body
00:43:57.620 cams off and that happened multiple times throughout the night and i've got the clips that i can share
00:44:01.460 them with you um and they are on that map that i was telling people about so other people can go and
00:44:05.500 find them for themselves too where like a bunch of officers are like around about to do something
00:44:10.900 and there's a couple instances throughout the night where this happens where then they kind of
00:44:14.040 are like all right body cams off body cams off body cams off and they're all going around and
00:44:17.620 turning off their body cams and for whatever reason i'm not sure if we ever found out why it's
00:44:21.720 possible we did bitsco didn't turn his off so officer bitsco's body cam he's one of the canine
00:44:27.260 officers that does exist and we do have body cam footage of the breach and they breached the door
00:44:32.740 and one of them accidentally shoots three rounds like just like they're just tripping out um even
00:44:40.480 though the official story is like paddock wasn't alive he was already dead on the ground he had been
00:44:43.800 dead there for an hour um there's no reason to shoot his rifle but they were just hyped up i guess
00:44:49.360 so they breached the door three rounds go off really fast which is kind of a nothing
00:44:54.060 and then they enter the room and when they enter the room they're looking for the window
00:45:00.120 where this guy's shot out of and you can watch it on the body cam and they go to the windows and
00:45:04.140 they pull the curtains back and they're like nope i have no broken window no it's not broken no no
00:45:09.400 window and they pull the other curtains back and they're looking and they all are like there's no
00:45:13.120 broken window there's no no window and they're standing right so we have crime scene photos
00:45:18.220 showing the floor with the hammer that he allegedly used to break this window open because las vegas
00:45:24.080 has like crazy glass that you can't just break so he allegedly brought this special hammer that'll
00:45:28.400 break that glass and we have a photo of that hammer with broken glass all over the floor with 0.96
00:45:33.120 just shell casings shell casings shell casings just all because there's a thousand fucking shell casings 0.92
00:45:37.500 in this room at this point plus four thousand unspent rounds that he just got bored and didn't want 0.94
00:45:42.280 to shoot and just checked out so in the photo we see the the ground next to the curtain of the window
00:45:48.980 with the hammer with all this broken glass and all these shell casings but in the body cam footage of
00:45:55.200 them going into his room when that photo should already it should already be exactly like the photo
00:45:59.000 shows us they can't find the window and they're not stepping on any broken glass or any shell casings
00:46:04.300 at all they're looking for it they can't find it and there's like six officers looking for this
00:46:09.080 window how long did it take for that body cam footage to come out after the shooting you know
00:46:13.200 i don't know exactly but i believe it was months and months and months it might have been a year
00:46:17.160 or more i think that's right right because it was never supposed to come out it was never even
00:46:20.860 supposed to exist all coverage as you said at the very outset all coverage of the shooting had just
00:46:25.000 died and yeah it's never spoken yeah it lasted like four or five days and there's you can see graphs
00:46:29.400 people have kind of charted the number of stories about and it's just like everyone's talking about it for
00:46:33.540 two days and then just gone completely gone and then youtube started putting started banning accounts
00:46:41.560 for talking about it uh come on all the different social media agencies started banning accounts for
00:46:45.760 it yeah and i have screenshots of on what ground things that are because um well the grounds was
00:46:54.440 spreading dangerous conspiracy theories and misinformation um but there had happened to have
00:46:59.640 been a active shooter drill that was done in the area like the week before or something like that
00:47:04.780 the day before i think it was the day before and so they've been recruiting crisis actors for this
00:47:10.820 active shooter drill that was being run in the area which you know if you learn enough about these
00:47:17.760 kinds of events you realize that drills are a huge red flag but i believe what what was done
00:47:24.280 is that then they accused these conspiracy theorists of basically doing the sandy hook thing and they
00:47:30.640 they straw manned the the journalism that was happening to say you're claiming that no one died
00:47:37.200 and that's so evil because you're saying that they're all crisis actors and so we're gonna ban you and that's
00:47:44.520 not what anyone was saying no one was saying that no one died no one was saying that it was all crisis
00:47:48.660 actors but they sort of finagled the one thing into the other thing into the other thing to say
00:47:53.760 well there was an active shooter drill so it was all legit and you're all saying it was fake which
00:47:58.520 they weren't and so you're banned and so a bunch of channels got taken down a bunch of journalists got
00:48:02.840 got uh banned off of platforms um and they did their best to shut it all down but people didn't stop
00:48:08.220 people just kept digging and that is crazy yeah so they they breach they can't find the window about
00:48:14.820 a minute later they breach the other room and this is another impossibility with the official story
00:48:20.840 paddock rents these two suites one is like the master suite on the because the those towers they're
00:48:26.520 kind of like these three pronged towers and you can rent the suite that's at the end of the tower
00:48:30.620 where you have like the the 180 degree windows of the whole end of the tower and he rents the one
00:48:35.080 facing out towards this um event but he also rented well it's not exactly facing towards like next to
00:48:41.420 then he also rented the room right next door and you had they're adjoining and so there's a door that
00:48:45.340 connects the two and the official story is that the windows in both rooms were broken out and that
00:48:53.780 he was shooting through the one room with his bolt action rifle to try to blow up the fuel tanks over
00:48:58.460 at the airport and he failed to do so but he he was in the other room shooting his bolt action rifle
00:49:02.300 then he was running back to the other room with his ars and rapid fire bump stocking with his bump stock
00:49:07.620 that never jammed um that's the official story but then the police get in there and the side room is
00:49:15.080 bolted from the other side and he's the only one that's there there's no one else in the rooms
00:49:19.840 apparently and the way they say that is because his room was bolted from the inside the side room but
00:49:25.300 but the side room was also bolted and they had to breach it with explosive breaching charges and it's
00:49:29.200 on you can see it on camera and so so he was magic is what you're saying he was magic right
00:49:36.060 because you can't bolt your side room from the other side while you're in a mass shooting spree
00:49:42.440 and then wind up in your room and shoot yourself in the head you can't do it and so there's all
00:49:48.400 these little things that physics intervenes exactly that physics and and just reality intervenes once
00:49:53.540 the evidence started to come out and they've never really acknowledged any of that that's all just
00:49:56.940 kind of never acknowledged it no i mean how could you there's no acknowledging to be done
00:50:00.720 yeah and by the way by then lombardo was busy being chief of police in lahaina if i'm not mistaken
00:50:08.420 you're not mistaken right yeah so he was at his next important job where is he now i don't know
00:50:15.700 that's a good question someone should track him down and maybe move far away from him but so that's
00:50:23.320 the room and just the room just the footage of that just that is enough to say it's all it's all
00:50:28.960 horseshit and you have to go back to square one and start over with what actually did happen and no
00:50:34.200 one who put out that story no official in charge either clark county sheriffs lvmpd fbi no one has 0.90
00:50:43.180 ever explained how stephen paddock could have locked himself out to my knowledge of his adjoining suite
00:50:49.860 yep but they also they also don't explain how the locks appear to have been tampered with
00:50:58.740 there's a whole bunch of weird lots so someone i forget his name i have him sourced in my in my notes
00:51:04.760 um he got the door logs from the hotel i don't know if he had a source at the hotel or something
00:51:12.100 but he got the official because the las vegas is surveils everything and they have logs of the dock of
00:51:17.820 the locks of every single room of when it's when it's closed when it's open whether it was open
00:51:21.540 from the inside or the outside the deadbolt status and they have the time recorded and everything
00:51:25.860 and there's there's a shot heard by a witness earlier in the day at like three in the afternoon
00:51:32.720 3 30 in the afternoon which is kind of maybe related but it's sort of a different story but then
00:51:37.840 throughout the day there in the afternoon the deadbolts start doing really weird things
00:51:42.900 where it's like open close open close open close and then at one point it um what does it do the
00:51:51.180 door is open from the inside logged and then the next log is deadbolt unlocked meaning that
00:51:59.200 after some weird deadbolt stuff has been happening then at a certain point it displays something that's
00:52:06.020 physically impossible which is that the door was opened before it was unlocked and then it was unlocked
00:52:10.580 which would imply based upon this is what other researchers you know kind of gathered at the
00:52:18.000 time and i would agree based on what i've seen of the evidence that they pulled out is that that
00:52:22.680 means that you have just hacked the key card system so that you can maybe remotely be unlocking and
00:52:28.340 locking these doors or you have some sort of altered access to these rooms and that would start to
00:52:34.160 explain how the locks could be locked from the inside with no one in there right because if you throw away
00:52:44.380 the garbage steven paddock story you still have to explain how you wound up with two suites with a dead
00:52:50.340 man inside with the bolts locked from the inside and no broken windows on either side yeah on either
00:52:57.660 side well actually that's that's a i believe we aren't entirely clear because we have some helicopter
00:53:03.660 footage we have some body cam footage and we have this bullshit narrative i believe that the window
00:53:09.340 in the other suite was broken out um and i think that we have that on the helicopter footage and i think
00:53:15.840 you can kind of see it like it's a little hard to make it out and like some of the photos taken from
00:53:20.420 the ground that night but there are some hd photos where you can kind of make out that it looks like
00:53:23.740 there is kind of a broken window in the other room but it's paddock's room where the majority of the
00:53:28.680 gunfire allegedly came from that's where you see this police entrance where they can't find the window
00:53:33.820 that's broken out and all that so so i guess the picture that emerges is one in which the facts not
00:53:41.120 only don't support the narrative the story but they're like completely at odds it's not a close call
00:53:50.120 it's not like oh did i see someone in the grassy knoll i'm not sure let's look at the it's not like
00:53:54.660 butler where you have to get you know 10 miles totally reporting to be like wait what is with
00:53:58.480 these cell phones just transparently fraudulent yeah like right in the in the original video
00:54:04.260 evidence you can see the helicopters in the original footage that people put out from their cell phones
00:54:09.220 you can hear in the original evidence that was all over the internet that night you can just hear
00:54:14.680 the gunfire and know that it's not ars with bump stocks it's just not right and then you can
00:54:21.180 obviously hear all the testimony from all the people of all of these other things that happened
00:54:25.160 that night that are complete lies they're all made up it's all just it's just people hearing echoes
00:54:31.560 two hours later why wouldn't so this is why i went out to las vegas twice in 2017 but then just got
00:54:37.900 caught up in life always more stories right yeah or short attention span it's i'm not making excuses
00:54:44.200 but um but i didn't realize that the corpus of counter evidence was so enormous it certainly merits
00:54:52.440 an fbi investigation it certainly does but here's the thing is i think they know everything that
00:54:56.360 happened what but was there ever an official fbi investigation um well yeah uh it depends on how you
00:55:03.120 define it the fbi was involved in the original investigation and i believe that the fbi did
00:55:07.720 rule on you know a certain element of this and then the lvmpd put out their own report as well
00:55:11.960 and they put out a behavioral analysis of paddock uh like a year later or something like that um
00:55:17.600 and i remember his well two things but there but the fbi signed off on the totally absurd
00:55:23.420 official conclusion yeah they did okay i believe so and b his brother i remember got busted for
00:55:29.700 kiddie porn yeah i don't actually know much about that i don't either but i just having lived in dc
00:55:34.920 my whole life i associate it was it was a while after the fact right yeah and it's like a joke in 0.92
00:55:42.180 washington the kitty i mean kitty porn is disgusting and i couldn't be more opposed to i 0.65
00:55:46.720 hate pornography in general but kitty porn specifically has a reputation in dc not among 0.97
00:55:53.920 ignorant people but among people pay attention as like the hallmark of a of a manufacturer's story
00:55:58.980 like oh he got arrested for kitty porn he can't talk or whatever and as soon as i heard that i was 0.97
00:56:02.600 like george zinn at very much like george zinn assassination so people are laughing about that 0.76
00:56:08.160 oh i know oh of course the guy's busted for kitty porn yeah of course shut him up get him away from
00:56:13.420 the i'm not look i have no specific evidence about george zinn or about steven paddock's brother but
00:56:19.240 that is a very well known it's a joke it's a cliche yep and especially when it's just so coincidental
00:56:26.100 that it's like yeah there are sickos out there but is it just is is it always that the you know 0.87
00:56:31.340 brother or associated the witness are they always the ones are they they're always in the kitty porn
00:56:36.020 um and you can't you can't talk to them but it's so you kind of bring us back to an interesting place
00:56:41.540 here where once you throw the narrative out you're like all right where do you even start with this
00:56:46.000 and for me where you start is steven paddock is like who is this guy yes who is he really and uh
00:56:53.140 i need to do even more in this there's when back when i got into this story there was just a million
00:56:58.680 directions and i didn't go far enough down them and i was doing that again more recently a little
00:57:02.240 bit um because who is steven paddock right and why the fuck did he would he even have been there 0.53
00:57:08.160 because it's it is factual that he did have all these guns in the room it is factual that he did
00:57:12.360 rent the room and he was there and and there's you know the the picture emerges a little more when you
00:57:17.600 look into his backstory um which is the basics is that he was 60-ish years old at this point
00:57:24.180 and back in like the 80s into like the late 80s he had worked at a defense contractor that was a
00:57:32.760 predecessor to i believe it was lockheed martin um and it's not like he was like you know some
00:57:37.900 commando shooting guns as far as i'm aware i think he was you know in some sort of office element of
00:57:43.700 this defense contractor um and then he i don't know i forget if he hopped directly into uh real
00:57:51.760 estate i think he had one sort of like intermediary where he was doing uh not sales but he was still
00:57:58.020 kind of like adjacent to the defense industry kind of end of the 80s and then he got into real estate
00:58:02.560 um and then allegedly he developed a gambling problem and so he had you know a net worth of
00:58:08.780 several million dollars allegedly but then he allegedly gambled it down over time uh there's a
00:58:13.780 lot of dispute over whether he was making lots of money gambling or not but um i remember that yeah
00:58:18.700 right but but that little detail about him having worked in the defense industry in the past
00:58:24.260 and then going into like the the nondescript real estate is like that's not suspicious on its face
00:58:31.440 you know lots of people change careers over time but it is a little interesting that a guy that used
00:58:36.300 to work and i don't have any proof of what i'm about to say this is just kind of conjecture based upon
00:58:39.940 that but it's interesting that a guy that used to work in the defense contracting industries back in
00:58:44.340 kind of his prime years like you know in his 30s sort of um then he goes into sort of a
00:58:52.140 nondescript industry where your income can be fluid and things you know you can kind of be traveling you
00:58:57.040 can be in property all these things and then he winds up at what looks like an awful lot like a kind
00:59:01.540 of deep statey sort of an arms deal sort of thing an arms deal that's involved in this absolute mass
00:59:06.100 shooting um that does give me pause in question of like was he a private citizen that was stock because
00:59:15.340 we'll get into the evidence that he thought he was doing an arms sale in a little bit but i believe
00:59:21.120 that he thought he was going to sell those guns and i think that's why he had them all there um and
00:59:26.320 that comes down to the three women that were on the room with him but the moment that you realize
00:59:32.540 that you're being lied to about him being the shooter you need an explanation for why the hell 0.98
00:59:36.080 is he there with all these fucking guns because you know like i don't i've been to vegas and i 0.99
00:59:40.260 didn't bring you know a whole arsenal of weapons with me and a whole arsenal of loaded magazines as 0.99
00:59:46.420 well right i mean you don't bring you know six rifles to go deer hunting or yeah anyway any how many
00:59:51.920 rifles did he have uh i believe it was 25 right well it was what was it was 25 weapons in the room i
00:59:58.960 believe was the final count might have been 24 in the room um and he had one revolver and one bolt
01:00:04.480 action rifle and then all the rest were ar platforms um and then he also had a whole bunch of weapons at
01:00:10.560 his other two houses as well he had like 25 other guns at his other houses uh and he just bought a
01:00:15.420 bunch for this and he was knowledgeable about guns i remember that yeah yeah exactly so who are the
01:00:20.640 three women and why do we think he was planning to sell them well at first they didn't exist um but
01:00:27.020 then investigative journalists dug and dug and dug and they found out that there were three other
01:00:33.060 women on the hotel reservation officially their their names were on the hotel reservation the hotel
01:00:38.200 knew they were there and i believe that they were checked into the side suite basically is my assumption
01:00:43.700 i don't know if that was proven or not but the side suite was booked with steven paddock's girlfriend's
01:00:49.520 credit card mary lou danley um and these three women i have their names written down we know their
01:00:55.560 first names because it was their first names were said i believe it was on one of the police body
01:00:59.880 cameras that was eventually released during the night but we don't know their last names they uh
01:01:05.240 witnesses described having allegedly seen him gambling that day or the day before
01:01:10.220 with women that looked to be uh of hispanic descent or like central south american descent and so
01:01:18.480 their names kind of match maybe they were some sort of latina um women he had tannerite in his car 0.65
01:01:26.840 is a key piece of this he had 50 pounds of tannerite in his car which is usually used when you want to
01:01:33.200 make things go boom not like i'm going to blow up a building but like we're going to go shoot in the 0.80
01:01:37.260 desert totally have a great time 50 pounds is a lot of tannerite it's a lot of tannerite so tannerite is
01:01:42.920 but he also had a lot of guns ammonium nitrate yeah and you can buy it in gun stores and it
01:01:48.960 detonates not with fire but with velocity with force and uh so you hit it with a with a rifle
01:01:56.200 round and it explodes and it's powerful and 50 pounds is enough to take your house out yeah and
01:02:01.920 so we don't really know why he had that or what he was doing with it but my understanding is that
01:02:08.060 tannerite can be used for lots of things but it is often used to like stage like a fun gun shooting
01:02:13.020 moment like i've never seen it used for anything other than that yeah right and it's it's dangerous
01:02:17.100 i mean for sure i've had some problems with it yeah it's definitely powerful yeah and so um the
01:02:25.840 tannerite a lot of people speculated um and i tend to defer to their speculation about it because i
01:02:30.900 have never shot tannerite i don't know about it um people speculated that given these multiple kind of
01:02:37.020 um points of information is that maybe one line of reasoning would be that he thought he was selling
01:02:45.780 a bunch of weapons to someone rich this is not something that's fact-based like we know for sure
01:02:51.580 but we do know that three women first name only that we're not supposed to talk about were registered 1.00
01:02:57.480 to this room as well and we do know that he had the room full of guns and we do know that he didn't do
01:03:04.200 the shooting um at least i feel pretty confident that i know that and so then it's like well why
01:03:08.980 the hell would you have a room full of guns and it is not uncommon to sell guns in las vegas um i mean
01:03:14.740 go to shot show right and so one possible explanation that might start to put some of those pieces into
01:03:19.740 place is maybe he met some beautiful girls that knew a guy something along those lines that was like 0.98
01:03:25.180 hey i know this really rich guy that wants to buy some guns and you know guns right maybe he got
01:03:29.220 honey potted maybe it was some sort of operation targeting him to recruit him for this thing
01:03:33.680 um because you know you don't have to just explain it from steven paddock's brain of like why is this
01:03:39.280 maybe arm sale happening but you have to explain it from like the big picture explanation of why did
01:03:43.920 whatever organization orchestrated all this why did they get steven paddock into that room to do that
01:03:50.600 thing right i lean towards speculatively that he was probably selected as a patsy for being some
01:03:58.860 like you know kind of vulnerable unimportant guy that was you know down on his luck a little bit
01:04:04.500 maybe and wanted to make some money selling guns who maybe he was more involved maybe he had some
01:04:09.480 intelligence connections i don't know but i suspect that he was basically recruited by some hot girls
01:04:14.420 to sell some guns to someone rich or something along those general lines and so he's bringing all these
01:04:20.140 guns to vegas or he's you know stocking his room with all these guns to go out and shoot in the
01:04:24.000 desert the next day maybe um he didn't bring the tannerite up to his room he left the tannerite in
01:04:28.300 the car but you if you went to vegas you probably wouldn't leave an arsenal of guns in your car no you
01:04:35.280 would want those secured in your room um and he has all these magazines loaded right all these magazines
01:04:42.500 are loaded and that would make sense if he's trying to do a mass shooting but the moment that you
01:04:46.600 realize that the evidence just does not support him doing the mass shooting then it's like well
01:04:51.660 why are the magazines all loaded why is this arsenal here ready like this and if you were going to go
01:04:56.440 shoot in the desert that would be a thing you would do is you would load a bunch of magazines um so
01:05:01.200 hard just we we don't know exactly why those pieces fit together but that's one of the most common
01:05:07.320 theories is that these three women that were on the room with him um in the side suite probably 1.00
01:05:13.060 that they probably had some sort of middleman connection because how do we see any motive i
01:05:19.120 mean did the authorities ever give us a hint of a motive because to murder strangers no they
01:05:25.680 objectively said we have no idea what the motive was they said that yeah exactly they they and you
01:05:31.280 can watch um our favorite sheriff he has a couple different versions of the quote of like we figured
01:05:39.300 out the what the when the where the who the one thing we don't know is the why but the why is the
01:05:44.280 one thing that matters exactly and that's so often a theme that runs through these things and when there
01:05:49.080 is a clearly articulated motive as in a manifesto sometimes it's suppressed it's like i mean osama bin
01:05:55.380 laden's manifesto was suppressed it's still being it's still being suppressed even though it went viral
01:05:59.500 on tiktok recently right so i do think it's essential to know what he used a weapon of course he did
01:06:05.220 he killed people i know but why i've got a million weapons i would never kill anybody so what's the
01:06:11.120 difference between me and him that's that's the thing you need to know you bring up osama bin laden
01:06:15.240 right as it's a good time to start talking about the saudi angle on this thing okay it's super
01:06:19.160 interesting um because you're right the why for stephen paddock is non-existent and that's the
01:06:23.560 official narrative is that there's no idea why can i just give the context to the political context
01:06:27.420 this is less than a year after trump's election yeah this is a jason aldean concert these are trump
01:06:32.440 voters yep jason aldean is not a political activist but he's open about his politics and
01:06:37.800 they're trump aligned he's also a great guy yeah i will say but um so these are trump voters who get
01:06:43.200 killed at the time less than you're after trump's election all anyone's talking about is trump
01:06:48.160 people are extremely exercised about it so it's hard to ignore that kind of i think it's impossible
01:06:54.640 to ignore it um but and here's where we get into these like there's different theories and and they
01:07:04.040 all hold certain amounts of weight and merit but most of them sort of have a hole in that they explain
01:07:10.540 this piece but none of that pieces they explain this thing but not that right and so one possible
01:07:17.220 narrative is it's like a government false flag to get gun control right just like do a mass shooting
01:07:23.280 construct some mass shooting incident and then more gun control and there's a similar compelling
01:07:29.080 kind of a concept of more mass surveillance and vegas is a really compelling place to put you know
01:07:34.740 experimental mass surveillance technology because you get the whole world comes to vegas you get all
01:07:39.460 sorts of different uh genetic like compositions of people that flood in and it's all private property
01:07:45.800 where you can kind of do your thing and so two parallel storylines of like kind of a false flag to bring
01:07:51.100 in more more of the gun control or more of the surveillance or both and that would be a reasonable
01:07:56.520 can i just ask just ask you for a second just i thought about this at the time trying to think
01:08:01.000 through what is this and the gun gun control is almost always the first thing democrats call for
01:08:07.300 when there's a mass shooting they leverage the death of other people for a policy aim of course
01:08:11.020 always famously sandy hook and the rest they didn't do it that much after this oh they shut the hell up
01:08:16.820 real exactly and i noticed that at the time real fast yeah they did try to bring in more mass
01:08:23.200 surveillance technology in las vegas they brought in more like body scanners and stuff they tried to
01:08:27.640 do this big new techno thing in vegas i didn't even but it basically failed because no one's going to
01:08:34.080 walk through the airport scanner like they actually installed some of these like lido scanners in vegas
01:08:38.300 the following years but like no one's going to walk through that every time they're trying to get 0.89
01:08:42.100 into their hotel or go to the casino floor and all this shit it's like that's just not good for 0.69
01:08:45.580 business so ultimately that that initiative basically backfired at least in those big overt 0.82
01:08:51.600 measures but i don't know what kind of increased biometric scanning and cameras and surveillance
01:08:57.880 technology kind of got sold to all those casinos after the fact um we we know that las vegas is one
01:09:03.960 of the most surveilled places on the planet and it was that night too despite the fact that we have
01:09:08.220 none of the footage we have none of that surveillance but um but that's where it's like certain p like
01:09:13.680 it would make sense to be like if you're a conspiracy theorist is like oh it's a gun control false flag
01:09:19.260 but then they're not going to push the gun control and furthermore why are you going to false flag like
01:09:24.300 attack all the concert goers and then have this further engaged conflict of multiple suspected gunmen
01:09:31.480 all across the las vegas strip over at the airport mysterious helicopters that we know are up there it's
01:09:37.060 like it doesn't explain any of that no it's at all right you would just literally if it was about gun
01:09:42.960 control you would actually just have a stephen paddock type character get a rifle and walk into
01:09:46.300 the crowd and start shooting all right so that's where it's like okay we need to square all these
01:09:51.300 weird pieces and how do we square all of these weird pieces and so you might think about things like
01:09:58.200 a heist gone wrong or this gone like a lot of the other versions that are more like uh you know the
01:10:03.260 average person might come up with them um because you kind of see movies right and and if you kind of
01:10:08.700 just like glance at all the evidence you might be like oh it's like if oceans 11 got really messed up
01:10:13.200 in real life but it's not because in oceans 11 there's no reason to murder 60 concert goers with
01:10:20.000 automatic gunfire probably coming from helicopters that would never be a part of a heist like you would
01:10:25.880 never do that and furthermore how would you convince any american no matter how slimy like how would
01:10:31.220 even convince like hillary clinton and anthony wiener if they got into the helicopter together
01:10:35.040 like are they going to shoot like automatic gunfire into 60 civilians out of the helicopter like
01:10:40.980 probably not let's be real like i know we don't like them but but like you need to square that's a big
01:10:47.940 step who the hell would shoot all of these concert goers and how do you square the concert shooting
01:10:54.540 with whatever else was happening and this is where i stumbled across the work largely of john cullen and
01:11:02.180 jason goodman got big into this as well and a bunch of other people did too mindy robinson mentioned a
01:11:07.160 bit in her documentary and many many more that i'm that i'm not mentioning right now um but john and
01:11:15.040 jason they really dug into this for a long time for many many years and they teased out this narrative
01:11:21.840 over time and when i first stumbled across it i didn't have the depth of understanding or the uh
01:11:27.720 the context of political awareness and intel agency kind of history to really understand what they
01:11:34.460 meant and so i heard it as like the baseline and we'll tease this out a fair bit i think but the
01:11:40.660 baseline of the theory is like mohammed bin salman the crown prince of saudi arabia is in vegas for
01:11:46.040 you know the night um or whatever and he's staying at his uh cousin's hotel which is the upper floors of
01:11:53.820 the mandalay bay the four seasons uh al-waleed bin talal was owned 45 percent of that hotel chain
01:12:00.220 at the time and so he's like staying in the hotel and so it was an assassination attempt on him
01:12:05.540 and there's we'll we'll dig this out a lot uh to try to understand what we do and don't know about it
01:12:11.280 and let people make their own minds but the first encountering of it when i thought about it i was
01:12:17.100 like so that would explain an assassination attempt on someone like bin salman might explain all this
01:12:25.020 gunfire across the strip where there's like an evacuation happening and there's operatives running
01:12:29.220 around and there's like two because all those shootings and all these hotels where there's no
01:12:34.900 civilian victims really to note that to me implies two armed forces fighting each other you know what
01:12:42.300 i mean just like basic logic is if you have a bunch of gunfire going off all across a city
01:12:48.180 and no civilians are getting shot then it's because you have people with guns shooting at people with
01:12:52.140 guns um i would assume and and so it's like okay that explains maybe that kind of stuff maybe it
01:13:00.840 explains the airport stuff maybe it explains like an evacuation explains helicopters like
01:13:04.580 turning off their transponders and hovering over the mandalay bay which we saw them do um and didn't
01:13:09.780 see them do so to speak so it explains a lot of these pieces but it's like but how does that explain
01:13:15.080 shooting up the concert it's like at first it was like are they shooting up the concert to create like
01:13:19.620 to trigger his evacuation protocol that doesn't make sense like i don't get it and it's because i didn't
01:13:25.160 understand the historical context of saudi arabia and of wahhabism and of al-qaeda and of the power
01:13:30.940 struggle that had been raging in saudi arabia for years at that point um and had really intensified
01:13:38.540 right at that moment and i still don't understand it because it's so freaking complicated um but
01:13:45.220 once you look at saudi arabia and their history their royal structure their political structure
01:13:52.920 and the political seismic shift that has happened around the solomon line right now
01:14:00.620 that piece starts to click into place because when you look at something so horrid as the las vegas
01:14:08.700 shooting who is going to shoot like 20 year old girls in the face with just reckless abandon like 0.57
01:14:16.220 that that is like the definition of a terrorist attack and so if you don't know anything about the
01:14:21.920 the incident how do you even come up with a perpetrator that could ever bring themselves to do such a
01:14:27.420 thing yeah it's like is it north korea is it russia is it iran is it you know who hates american people
01:14:34.100 that much the american brain can only explain that by attributing it to a crazed lone gunman
01:14:39.600 which is by mental illness or something but the american brain cannot fathom any organized group 0.98
01:14:45.700 exactly of people doing something and certainly not like our own like you can be the craziest 0.98
01:14:50.320 conspiracy theorist with like literally wrapped in tinfoil sitting in your own microwave but you
01:14:55.640 still can't like it is still not a legitimate argument to say that like a cia officer is going
01:15:00.560 to get onto that helicopter and shoot a minigun at civilian americans i don't believe not a chance
01:15:04.540 nope and if i start believing that i'm leaving and no like even the most horrendous like even henry 0.98
01:15:09.600 kissinger hillary clinton take your pick of like the most vile people in american history they're not 0.52
01:15:14.000 going to do that and so it's like who would and when you look at the history of saudi arabia and the
01:15:24.060 sort of warring factions of their religious and political ideology and the wahhabism hardliners
01:15:30.700 that very much are sort of aligned beside al-qaeda and that are sort of where al-qaeda like
01:15:40.460 yeah you know fractioned off from and you know this far more than me that is very much an ideology
01:15:47.040 that is perfectly okay with killing western young people with reckless abandon and the interesting 0.72
01:15:52.200 thing is that mbs muhammad bin salman then the crown prince still still technically crown prince but
01:15:57.940 the man who runs saudi um i mean he's just crushed them he's changed everything since then right just
01:16:04.320 crushed them but but specifically he's gone after specific people those people so let's let's unpack this
01:16:10.020 wait before we go further just the the key question do we know that he was in vegas that no we do not
01:16:15.360 and there's this there's this one video that that question hinges around because people started to
01:16:20.640 talk about this theory you know in the months following this um and in the years following it
01:16:24.680 and this video emerged and went viral and i have questions over whether this was orchestrated
01:16:29.680 in order to discredit the theory as often happens where when a theory that we're not supposed to talk
01:16:35.420 about gains power and steam and traction people start talking about it you release something that
01:16:40.880 is supposed to be a piece of that theory that is easily disprovable right and this video goes viral
01:16:46.260 i'm watching that right now exactly right this video goes viral of this evacuation that happens that night
01:16:53.920 where there's these two guys surrounded by armed police officers clearly like clearing the area
01:17:00.760 evacuating out of a one of the hotels and someone gets it on cell phone camera and the two guys that
01:17:07.660 are not police officers that are not armed one of them is wearing red shoes and a white baseball jersey
01:17:12.660 and he's carrying a little bag that's like looks like an important las vegas-y kind of money or
01:17:17.000 something bag and the other guy's in a suit and the the idea is it's like is this guy in the white jersey
01:17:24.780 mohammed bin salman which is at first it's like what are you talking about like dressed like that 0.97
01:17:30.760 i don't think so but i i who knows maybe it was constructed to be like he's in disguise
01:17:35.720 the short version is we know for a fact that that was not mohammed bin salman he was one of the uh like 0.86
01:17:40.560 chiefs of security at that hotel um and he posted online was like no that's me these are my shoes i'm
01:17:46.100 a sneaker head like here's all the corroboration you could ever need that's me i was called into work
01:17:50.540 because i live nearby and because they had not yet cleared that building i came in with that team as
01:17:56.300 they cleared the building and then you can see in the video right at the end of the video
01:17:59.200 the cops keep going straight and and him and his and the guy in the suit they veer off to the right
01:18:04.080 towards something and they and they have a little dialogue where it's like hey you go and go to the
01:18:07.700 offices and they go to their offices to start working on the crazy security situation that they're in the
01:18:12.900 middle of and so that video is not at all related has nothing to do with it but it got fed into the
01:18:19.280 narrative right at this critical moment where i suspect that it was supposed to discredit this make
01:18:25.080 sort of like muddy the waters of this question of was bin salman in las vegas at that time and i have
01:18:31.420 not even begun to scratch the surface of the research that these other folks have done over
01:18:35.200 years of trying to verify where he was that night and the best that anyone has gotten as far as i've
01:18:40.540 seen is that there's a hole in his schedule where no one knows where he was and we know that he was
01:18:45.820 other places before and we know he was other places after but those that specific little window of
01:18:50.640 time a couple days around las vegas around october 1st 2017 no verification of where he was at all
01:18:56.320 so we do not know so ibn sad that like founded the kingdom of saudi arabia he had a bunch of sons
01:19:03.220 and it's been his sons ever since and so the king of saudi arabia has been getting older and older and
01:19:08.060 older because as one has abdicated or been overtaken whatever it's just been like first they were in
01:19:12.420 their 30s and now they're in their 40s and now they're in their 60s and now they're in their 70s and now
01:19:15.720 uh king salman took took off like office i said office because i'm american he took the throne in
01:19:21.580 his 80s right so the last three kings of saudi arabia king faad king abdullah and king salman
01:19:27.560 super relevant to the current power struggle that's happening and king faad was 82 to 2005
01:19:34.280 um i'm no expert on religion on islam on saudi american politics but it's not hard to figure out
01:19:45.880 that king faad was pretty hardliner and a lot of these guys are pretty damn hardliner this kind of
01:19:50.860 wahhabism this very like very uh conservative religious um government that they run and king faad
01:20:00.460 he oversaw a whole bunch of terrorism and like let's let's not forget that yeah there's a lot
01:20:07.720 of things that happened on 9-11 that i don't think the official narrative accounts for but we do know
01:20:11.980 for a fact that saudi arabia was very involved like saudi arabia represented what was it like
01:20:17.900 17 what was it was 17 of 19 i think yeah i think it was less than 17 i think it was 15 or 16 out of
01:20:24.360 19 but it was a significant number right so overwhelming majority majority the hijackers
01:20:30.160 whatever role they really played you know whatever conspiracy theory you want to be on
01:20:33.700 and then saudi arabia also was involved in sort of the intelligence around it they were involved in
01:20:39.480 they were baked in and when you get deeper into sort of like the cia's analysis post-mortem analysis of
01:20:44.540 what happened saudi arabia stonewalled the hell out of them i mean like osama bin laden was born out of
01:20:50.780 this sort of saudi wahhabist mindset and he like took it in this direction um towards politics away from
01:20:58.080 just religious perspective and towards political violence and political uh movement kind of born
01:21:04.520 out of america getting in there and doing what we always do right and there's all sorts of depth there
01:21:09.460 that i don't understand but it's you don't have to understand all the depth of it to know that
01:21:14.180 has an interesting relationship with that era because whether he was you know regardless of how
01:21:24.560 involved he was during that era osama bin laden was creating and growing al-qaeda and doing whatever
01:21:32.900 it is you think al-qaeda was involved in not just in 9-11 but in all these other terror attacks too
01:21:38.260 and and so these hardliners these brother kings there's this divide that emerges um in more recent
01:21:48.560 times with king salman and his son muhammad bin salman right and there's other people that are
01:21:56.940 sort of aligned with them but they're obviously the two figureheads of this this newer saudi arabia
01:22:01.480 they are very different muhammad bin salman especially but king salman has been very much
01:22:06.240 more progressive and muhammad bin salman is very much like he wants to give women's rights and he's
01:22:10.300 like throwing giant music festivals and he's trying to you know move their investments away from just oil
01:22:15.480 they're allowing alcohol exactly they're doing all these things that are that from the hardliners
01:22:20.540 perspective you're destroying the faith you're destroying the nation you're destroying the kingdom 0.68
01:22:25.520 in the regional context he's been radical for sure and there is there's a lot of articles news
01:22:30.660 articles from the middle east predating the las vegas shooting like in the in the years and months like
01:22:36.780 there's some of them that are two years ahead of that where it's it's princes because there's thousands
01:22:41.000 of these princes but some of them are very important and some of them are lesser important
01:22:44.260 and there were very important princes basically creating like kind of manifesto level uh texts 0.96
01:22:52.360 saying like we need to stop these fucking weaklings from taking over and destroying the kingdom and 1.00
01:22:59.160 basically calling on these hardliners to get together and kick these guys out and deal with 0.99
01:23:03.360 them and there is a history of political violence back and i think it was the 60s was the first time
01:23:08.340 that the king was assassinated and he was assassinated by his nephew i believe it is i believe it was his
01:23:14.420 cousin i think that's correct and ever since it's i mean even before that but ever since it has very
01:23:19.320 much been this game of thrones kind of place where you have a kingdom that has religion baked in it has
01:23:24.400 this oil wealth it has uh and it has this history growing of political violence and of infighting for
01:23:31.940 the throne oh yeah for the high stakes stuff yeah for very high stakes and so as you approach the las
01:23:37.940 vegas shooting and this is stuff that john cullen and jason goodman dug a ton into and you can go to
01:23:43.040 john cullen's youtube channel and dig back through it all because he did it all in these like one hour
01:23:47.100 long podcasts and sort of exposés that takes a long time to get through but he very much lays out his
01:23:52.080 version of the theory and he's not the only one but he's the most he's the most deep into this theory
01:23:56.660 um and i very much think it's the most likely i think it's the most fleshed out and logical theory
01:24:02.200 um all the way from explaining why we saw terrorism that night but also why we saw these other things
01:24:09.640 but also it fits into this historical perspective of what was actually happening in saudi arabia at the
01:24:14.280 time that we as americans aren't aware of because the secession had just shifted bin solomon king
01:24:23.640 solomon not muhammad bin solomon king solomon was on the throne he took the throne uh what was it in
01:24:28.700 2015 i believe yeah 2015 solomon takes the throne and he changes the succession uh i believe it was
01:24:40.900 earlier in 2017 it was like maybe six months or so before the vegas shooting and he changes it from
01:24:49.460 one of these hardliner guys to his son bin solomon muhammad bin solomon it's very confusing with
01:24:57.060 these names if you're american you don't um you're not used to arab names but then the moment that bin
01:25:03.580 solomon gets in there there is reporting about his actions there's you you have to kind of triangulate
01:25:08.880 it from watching what he does but he immediately starts to consolidate power and um one of the examples
01:25:14.160 is he moves to dismantle their sort of intelligence apparatus and move it under the the uh the
01:25:22.180 jurisdiction of their like defense department sort of which he's the head of um and the guy that was
01:25:27.360 in charge of the intelligence apparatus at the time was one of these hardliners from one of these other
01:25:30.740 kind of family lineages and so it's things like that where he's like he's kicking people out of their
01:25:35.200 positions he's changing around who's in charge of positions and he's trying to take away power from
01:25:39.920 these various uh hardliners that have had it out for him for years and do not want this shift to
01:25:46.300 take place um so he's replaced a guy that doesn't want him there and now he's the crown prince he's
01:25:53.420 gonna he's gonna take the throne and his dad might abdicate at any time right his dad is in his 80s
01:25:59.080 um at any moment he could either die or get sick or just decide that he's over it and his son is now 0.93
01:26:05.660 the king and so bin salman's not a dumbass and he knows that he needs to do something about all these 0.94
01:26:12.120 opposing you know family members that are actively trying to take him out and they've been talking
01:26:18.340 about trying to take him out for a long time and what i just explained about the uh the head of
01:26:22.860 intelligence and that the nature of the power of the intelligence networks that's just one piece of
01:26:26.880 what he's doing here and he's doing that for months leading up to the 2017 uh to the date of
01:26:33.660 october 1st when this shooting happens and when the las vegas shooting happens
01:26:38.680 it's right in the middle of this this building of tension this shifting of power that we think is
01:26:48.580 over there right it's over in saudi arabia obviously and it's understandable that that
01:26:52.880 would be happening in saudi arabia so we kind of have a burden of proof to explain why would this be
01:26:56.260 happening in las vegas and i don't know if we've met that burden of proof in the way the theory has
01:27:01.260 developed over the years of people kind of digging into this and trying to piece it apart
01:27:04.480 but al-waleed bin talal one of the richest of all of the saudi princes he's like i mean i guess it's
01:27:11.820 changed over the years but he's we're talking like a multi-multi billionaire in 2017 he was like the 40
01:27:16.200 something richest person in the world by forbes or whoever um something like 16 or 17 billion dollars
01:27:22.020 net worth if i remember correctly he is like the saudi bill gates is the way a lot of people referred to
01:27:28.160 him and he owned a 45 stake in the four seasons hotel chain and the four seasons hotel chain owns
01:27:36.180 well they like co-operate the top i think six floors of the mandalay bay above where paddock was
01:27:42.080 um allegedly where paddock's room was and so the theory started to dig into people started to look at
01:27:50.120 this like well so we have a faction this sort of wahabi hardliner faction that we know would
01:27:56.340 willingly kill massive numbers of americans for whatever reason even if it's just incidental to
01:28:02.260 something else they would be happy to kill americans it's not like every saudi arabian person is this way
01:28:07.240 that's not what's being claimed by anyone it's that there are there are people with legitimate
01:28:12.360 terroristic ideologies in those factions and they're very opposed to mbs they're very opposed to mbs they
01:28:18.460 to them it's an existential threat they need to and they're not quiet about that they have been
01:28:23.220 talking about that for two years and more um and the clock is ticking because mbs's dad is going to
01:28:29.480 abdicate and mbs is going to take the throne and mbs knows this and so in the months leading into this
01:28:34.500 shooting mbs is actually going after them he's seizing some of their money he's restricting
01:28:38.560 their travel he's reallocating power and consolidating power very actively and overtly not like we have to
01:28:45.080 assume this was happening we know that those things were happening and so their their clock is
01:28:50.180 ticking ticking and their window of power and freedom is closing because they're getting their
01:28:55.060 travel restricted they're getting their you know elements of power being taken from them and so you
01:29:00.420 actually are looking at a faction that is willing to do the thing we see being done with motive to do
01:29:06.480 it in the time frame that we see it done in and then we have this window of lack of information of
01:29:12.900 where was mbs at the time and we don't know we we talked about that video that was probably just kind
01:29:18.460 of misinformation fed in we do not know if he was in las vegas at the time no one has shown anything
01:29:23.100 to prove that he was or wasn't it is worth noting that his brother uh his son kbs is kbs his son or
01:29:30.200 his brother khalid bin salman he was the ambassador to america yeah i think he's his i think he's his
01:29:35.400 younger brother i think that's correct um khalid bin salman i think is his name he is the ambassador
01:29:40.300 to the united states for saudi arabia and he is very much in the same faction so various people
01:29:47.140 think that this has to do with mbs some people think it has to do with his brother khalid bin salman
01:29:51.460 but we don't really know if they're there or not but right after this mass shooting happens and
01:30:00.320 whatever the hell it was bin salman goes on this what was called the saudi purge and it includes the
01:30:09.180 knight of a thousand swords is this like kind of mythical knight where he he my understanding is that
01:30:14.920 he invites all of the crown princes in for something like it was like what was it they were
01:30:20.460 going to um unveil something or he had this like weird event planned oh it was that they were going
01:30:28.460 to give a citizenship to an ai robot named sophia it's this very bizarre little side quest where he's
01:30:36.620 like we're going to be the first nation to give citizenship to a robot is my understanding here and
01:30:41.720 so it's like this big like and everybody come here and we're going to have this big party kind of
01:30:45.400 thing and then he locks them all in a hotel and he's the ritz carlton the ritz carlton and there's
01:30:51.200 this whole there's all this lore and legend around it that like you have to kind of sort through to
01:30:55.300 figure out what really happened and what is like storytelling but it's it what really did happen is
01:30:59.760 that over that night and then the weeks and months following he sees billions and billions and
01:31:05.220 billions of dollars of assets from all of these hardliner guys all these guys that are aligned with
01:31:09.640 these people that had been slighted people that had been like that he had sort of stepped in their
01:31:14.080 places of people that would hate him and want him dead and it totaled up to almost 200 billion
01:31:18.960 dollars confirmed that he that he has seized from all these different people over the you know that
01:31:23.320 this year or two time frame here after the shooting he uh a couple of them die in mysterious
01:31:31.100 things like plane like helicopter crashes um some of them are so for example is this i guess it's a
01:31:38.400 story but it's like corroborated by a bunch of reporting and journalism and i think it's
01:31:42.900 intentionally leaked out because he wants bin salman wants everyone to know this story that he
01:31:48.820 takes al-waleed bin talal the guy that owns the four seasons hotel where the richest of all of these
01:31:54.580 hardliner princes that is against him and he strings him up by his feet and he actually gets
01:32:00.740 blackwater guys apparently military contractors from blackwater american military contractors over there
01:32:06.320 and they torture him they hang him up by his feet and they torture him for who knows how long maybe
01:32:11.240 days um beating him and and all this stuff and humiliating him and we don't really know what comes
01:32:16.740 of it but his assets are stripped um he's basically his power is neutered and that's done to a number of
01:32:25.400 people but there's a lot of lore around what was done to bin talal and there's a lot of theorizing by
01:32:31.320 american journalists around this las vegas shooting that bin talal might have been sort of
01:32:35.180 the big money and sort of the big guy behind a big element of the planning of this thing
01:32:41.280 because it starts to be the theory starts to be maybe it was an assassination attempt on bin salman or
01:32:47.840 his brother we don't know for sure but what we do know is there was another assassin there was an
01:32:54.580 assassination attempt later that year i think it was in uh or i guess it would have been the next year
01:32:59.880 it was in june of the of 2018 i believe and it was at the palace in riyadh and there's video footage
01:33:08.000 of it and once again it's like one of these moments where actually it's like automatic gunfire going off
01:33:13.600 and like like kind of like i don't know if there's explosions but it's like and they they stormed the
01:33:19.080 palace and tried to kill mohammed bin salman and actually it's pretty well speculated that he actually
01:33:24.780 got shot at some point in that uh assassination attempt because he disappeared from the public eye
01:33:29.980 for like eight weeks or 12 weeks or something like that um and so so you start to put these pieces of
01:33:38.380 this puzzle together just the contextual stuff around it where we don't know for sure that he was there
01:33:44.140 that night and we don't really have evidence of anything super concrete soddy there until we talk about
01:33:51.380 the helicopters but we do have context for this turf this war over immense power and wealth and
01:33:59.100 we do have context for why they might be there in this hotel this location we do have context for
01:34:05.360 there are assassination attempts happening on his life um obviously by those factions and then a year
01:34:12.120 to the day to the almost to the hour maybe after the las vegas shooting happens jamal kashoggi gets
01:34:20.060 chopped up into little pieces over in the embassy that was a year to the day to the day
01:34:25.700 right was it was it in 2018 or was it after that was 2019 or 2020 i don't i don't recall i think it
01:34:32.540 was around 20 i think it was 18 and what i but what i'm remembering is specifically john colin's
01:34:37.420 reporting on this because he this is one of the things that he zeroed in on that people then were
01:34:40.780 like whoa because when you account for the time zone difference from where he was in turkey i think it
01:34:48.060 was in istanbul in istanbul right and when you account for the time difference it's like pretty
01:34:53.120 damn close to actually because he got he got chopped up i believe it was on october 2nd but when you
01:34:58.300 account for the time difference it was actually the night of october 1st the exact anniversary of this 0.95
01:35:03.720 shooting this possible assassination attempt it's like okay well what does jamal kashoggi have to do
01:35:10.160 with this well the kashoggi family is this deep power family in saudi arabia um a non-kashoggi
01:35:18.760 famously was this one of the world's most powerful arms traffickers that did business with jeffrey epstein
01:35:23.140 and sold trump his boat and all these things um but they were tied in much more significantly
01:35:28.380 politically than that and jamal specifically before he was a journalist you know working for the
01:35:34.300 washington post he was actually working for the head of saudi intelligence um i guess doing journalism
01:35:41.600 for him right and then you actually go further back and some of these guys dug up reporting and
01:35:48.280 photographs news reporting with photographs that he was actually in the mujahideen hanging out holding
01:35:53.440 a rocket launcher way back in the day well he certainly supported those elements there's no doubt about it
01:35:59.100 even though his life didn't mirror their exactly their beliefs but there's no i mean i don't know
01:36:05.400 the answer but there's no question that he was not murdered because of his washington post columns 0.91
01:36:11.740 exactly it's like so stupid and so the question becomes he was critical of mbs the washington post like 0.81
01:36:17.840 they care exactly no there's more than that and so then you start to ask yourself the question is like 0.99
01:36:22.560 what why was he murdered not just murdered but why was he murdered so brutally and intentionally
01:36:28.740 in a place that was like a public spectacle and it looks like it's to send a message it very much
01:36:35.140 looks like it's to send a message and you start to wonder like okay well when he does the knight of
01:36:41.660 the thousand swords when he grabs when he you know confiscates all these people's wealth he strings
01:36:46.520 bin talal up by his feet and beats him and then seems to intentionally let that story get out um
01:36:52.800 and then this really public murder of this other guy that's aligned with those factions happens
01:36:57.840 on the like one year anniversary of this event you start to see this triangulation of vengeance
01:37:05.160 of something there and this is obviously speculation to connect all of these things but this context
01:37:12.100 matters because again 60 people were murdered and there is an explanation and it's obviously not the
01:37:19.220 mainstream narrative but then you have to explain how did 60 people die and why and there there's a
01:37:25.180 reason for everything even if it's like even if it's an asteroid just boom random collision there's
01:37:30.740 still an explanation for why it happened and so you need to find a scenario that actually is reality
01:37:37.980 that does fit with the facts that are true that explains the horrific thing that we saw and you're
01:37:44.540 starting to see the reason why this theory took so much root and why so many people are interested in
01:37:49.840 it myself included is that it explains how you could do something so horrible to innocent american
01:37:55.500 civilians but it also explains all the other weird operations not that we know for sure what happened
01:38:01.560 in all those hotels but that you start to understand why you would have you know reports of armed gunmen
01:38:08.800 in like tactical gear over there and over there and over there at the airport why you have these weird
01:38:13.980 helicopters going on okay so the helicopters so i said just to recap super quick the story you're
01:38:21.780 telling is remarkable by the way um and it it does seem to fit all kinds of disparate pieces together
01:38:28.600 into what appears like a coherent whole but you don't know so i said do we know that mbs or his brother
01:38:34.180 or any of his relatives were in town that day no we don't but you said there's the question of the
01:38:40.480 helicopters which i think you've already made a compelling case we're involved in the shooting
01:38:44.100 yeah what do you mean what helicopters so we know that there are helicopters in the air that don't
01:38:51.940 show up on train on the transponder data and we know that there's weird transponder data on helicopters
01:38:56.160 that came from the maverick and sundance helicopter tour operators and all that but the question is
01:39:05.560 is even before you have seen john colin's research on the fact that there's some helicopters that never
01:39:13.020 have transponders on that aren't on any of the flight radar data as in like there's literal ghost
01:39:17.000 helicopters there that seem to be shooting before you even know that if you're speculating that like
01:39:22.420 there's some foreign assassination kind of attempt in there and there's helicopters involved it's like
01:39:27.600 well where the hell did they get the helicopters how do you get helicopters halfway around the world from
01:39:31.640 saudi arabia like you can't just fly over the ocean in a helicopter and go shoot someone and so 0.95
01:39:37.120 these guys started to look into it and this is very this is directly taking from the research of
01:39:42.220 john colin and jason goodman um who did amazing work on this stuff uh like we all owe them a great
01:39:48.360 debt on this because they started to look where would they like are there helicopters around and they
01:39:54.800 stumbled across a thing called operation red dawn it turns out that for the entire month of august
01:40:01.620 the month before well one whole month before the shooting um this hotel called the w in las vegas
01:40:10.840 was rented out for the saudi royal air force because they were bringing their guys over to actually do
01:40:18.460 a giant training operation a joint training operation in this thing called operation red dawn
01:40:22.760 in the desert outside of las vegas um
01:40:27.560 simultaneous to that saudi arabia had done this gigantic weapons deal with american defense
01:40:35.620 contractors and i mean america because you have to go through our government in order to do those
01:40:40.260 contracts as you know and they had bought a whole bunch of military hardware from various defense
01:40:45.520 contractors and that included a whole bunch of helicopters from boeing and there's this new kind
01:40:51.780 helicopter that had just been designed by boeing called the ah6i that was just finishing its first
01:40:58.360 run of production and it had not been delivered to anyone else yet in the world um and you can look
01:41:02.460 these things up they're these like compact they're like combat stealth reconnaissance helicopters
01:41:08.780 designed to be extremely mobile extremely small you can you can fold the rotors up and pack them into a
01:41:14.500 shipping container like on a truck and they can slide right into a truck back um but they also can
01:41:20.520 have mini guns on them they are extremely stealthy they're very quiet they're very small they have
01:41:25.000 like just two seats in them um so they are sort of uh a really specific type of helicopter that was just
01:41:33.780 getting finished in 2017 like they were delivering their first shipments in 2017 and they were actually
01:41:39.520 there at this operation operation red dawn where the entire saudi royal air force was in the las
01:41:45.480 vegas area just like a month before this shooting goes down um like one two to one months before the
01:41:52.120 shooting goes down and people did all sorts of digging into like the description of the helicopters
01:41:58.640 from victims and the the what these helicopters look like they've got this giant camera bulb on the
01:42:03.340 bottom but the fact is that it's like oh wait a minute there's literally saudi helicopters
01:42:07.960 stationed right over there in the desert just to hop away from vegas for this giant operation where
01:42:14.340 the saudi like royal air force is literally been on location just before this thing goes down
01:42:20.240 and those helicopters are specifically a kind of helicopter you couldn't do this with a blackhawk
01:42:25.220 for example but you could pack one of those helicopters into a box truck and drive it off into
01:42:30.080 the desert and just park it there and no one would ever know there's a helicopter parked there because
01:42:33.660 it's inside of a box and then you just take it out unfold the rotors and you're off
01:42:38.500 amazing and so it's like wait a minute what because because again you have to remind yourself that that
01:42:45.000 in journalism in the pursuit of truth you have to find true circumstances which you can evidence
01:42:53.800 hopefully corroborate as well by multiple sources that explains what you're seeing and what we saw
01:43:01.120 is we have footage of helicopters we have reports of helicopters and we have flight transponder data
01:43:09.280 that seems to indicate at least some helicopter activity that's suspicious from the airfield but
01:43:16.800 pretty good evidence that there's helicopters that aren't even transpondered on
01:43:20.300 and when you hear that gunfire it's like oh that would explain why the gunfire sounds like belt fed
01:43:26.920 machine guns because that's what's on these kinds of helicopters that would explain why we see these
01:43:33.040 flying things coming around behind the mandalay bay and going with little lights in the back like
01:43:38.120 off in the darkness that would explain why there's trajectories of fire that are coming down directly
01:43:43.400 from overhead on some of these people yes that would explain why like it would start to fit into a
01:43:49.760 narrative where at at the helicopters that we do know we're on the transponder data there's a couple
01:43:55.720 groups of them there's one group of three that takes off earlier in the night they take off from
01:43:59.540 by the tour helicopter operator and they fly over to the mandalay bay and hover over top of it and they
01:44:05.220 turn their transponders off and their transponders are off for the entire shooting and then their
01:44:09.160 transponders turn back on after the shooting is over and they fly over and join this group of eight
01:44:14.540 that are taking off in the minutes after the shooting and flying north away from the strip
01:44:20.660 we know that yeah it's on yeah you can go and watch all the footage people record multiple people
01:44:25.040 corroborated it and recorded it from flight radar 24 at the time now uh transponder data is only
01:44:31.740 historically kept for up to like three years i think in flight radar 24 is the most has the widest time
01:44:37.820 horizon if you pay the 500 membership um you can get i think three years of data so it's long gone now
01:44:44.540 public access but many many different journalists uh published video footage of these uh this
01:44:52.060 transponder data corroborated it between each other and yeah we we know that lots of weird helicopter
01:44:59.180 stuff happened on the transponder data and then that's where john cullen took it one step further
01:45:03.820 and triangulated everything and realized that he pretty well proved that even aside from that we have
01:45:09.000 helicopters that aren't those ones at times when we know where all those ones are and there's
01:45:14.320 i still see a helicopter in this footage right now that has flashing what looks like gunfire um we
01:45:20.540 also have a plane on that transponder footage that is flying under the call sign of a southwest boeing
01:45:26.900 747 and it flies over the airport and then does a right turn the way a helicopter would and then flies
01:45:32.940 over to the mandalay bay or i guess it was the delano not the mandalay bay for this one and then it
01:45:37.080 hovers over the delano for a while and then it goes off and it's under the call sign of a southwest
01:45:43.920 passenger plane like a boeing 747 that also was somewhere else at the time but it's a helicopter
01:45:49.280 it's obviously a helicopter just by the way it flies it's obviously a helicopter because it's a
01:45:54.280 fixed wing aircraft don't hover yeah yeah you know you know they tend to fall out of the sky
01:45:59.140 you fly around america on that one can't hover but this one could this one though it was apparent it
01:46:05.180 was labeled as this southwest airlines you know passenger plane it flew and took a hard right
01:46:11.600 turn at speed over top of the airport and then went and hovered over the delano uh and then went
01:46:17.320 took off so we have all this weird shit going on in the air and and so it starts to corroborate the
01:46:24.880 idea that helicopters are involved and there's more than and there appears to be more than one thing of 0.91
01:46:29.560 helicopters going on because you can't you can't explain helicopters shooting civilians from
01:46:34.660 helicopters that are taking off from sundance and uh i always forget the other one um from these like
01:46:42.380 tour operators right um maverick and sundance are very much a part of the community there they run
01:46:49.860 tours all over the all over vegas every single day their helicopters are known at the airport the air
01:46:55.840 traffic control knows them they talk to them all the time right and we do have some weird shit going 0.68
01:47:00.380 on with air traffic control we do have the audio of air traffic control and air traffic control
01:47:05.700 didn't even know that the shooting was happened until like several minutes after it had finished and
01:47:10.620 we have the audio of it it's it's almost tragic as the shooting is happening they're just directing
01:47:15.980 traffic like normal and then as the shooting is sort of finishing um like right around 10 14 10 15 10 16
01:47:23.800 air traffic control starts asking the helicopter operators because there's these tour operators
01:47:28.120 that are apparently launching tour helicopters at the time it's like hey sundance or maverick can you
01:47:33.740 see what's happening over at that concert over there what's going on i see a lot of it's like police
01:47:37.280 lights and stuff and they're like kind of chattering back and forth of like yeah i think the concert just
01:47:40.340 got out but unbeknownst to them 60 people are dead on the ground and the shooting has already fully
01:47:45.020 happened and everything is you know at least that part of everything is done and then they start to get
01:47:52.080 like in the next like eight minutes they start to realize what the hell is going on
01:47:55.580 and then air traffic control starts rerouting everybody and starts trying to deal with it
01:48:00.420 keeping the runways clear and then it's like the 30 minutes later where air traffic control comes
01:48:03.720 through and says we have an active shooter on the runway and then they ask to turn the lights off
01:48:07.100 so that's where it became like if helicopters are shooting people you need to figure out where those
01:48:14.380 helicopters came from because they almost certainly didn't come from these tour helicopter operators
01:48:19.520 right where we haven't even talked about the shooting that happened in those hangars by the
01:48:23.640 way that was shooting in the multiple people reported shootings in those hangars and in other
01:48:28.280 hangars in the airport as well but we can come back to that wait were those do we know anything
01:48:33.620 about those shootings all we know is that there were three different 9-1-1 calls that came in
01:48:38.260 sequentially that were from relatives and friends of people that were in the hangars because apparently
01:48:43.440 the people in the hangars were trying to call 9-1-1 and couldn't get through almost as though
01:48:47.000 they were being jammed or something like that somehow got comms out or something and that and
01:48:51.600 so it was like a boyfriend of a girl that was in there and it was reported that there was a woman
01:48:55.760 down who had been shot um we don't know if she died or not we don't we don't have an autopsy from
01:49:00.860 any woman that died in those hangars but it was that a woman had been shot and that there were gunmen
01:49:06.780 in the hangars somewhere and there was a bunch of civilians trying to hide from them trying to sort of
01:49:11.760 like it's like run and hide is this during the shooting at mandalay bay this those calls all come
01:49:17.260 after the shooting at mandalay bay by a woman down okay so it's not like i mean this whole time i'm
01:49:23.480 thinking well maybe it's just the echo of oh no no fired into the we have a woman down in that hangar
01:49:29.840 we have uh we have guns picked up in the street and handed to police officers in other parts of the
01:49:35.280 city we have long guns no no pistols um there are magazines that are found in other parts of the
01:49:40.880 city um around the concert venue there's uh ar magazines there's a magazine found out in front
01:49:46.960 of the tropicana there's a bunch of casings found in uh in the parking lot of the tropicana um and i've
01:49:52.800 got all sorts of video footage of the stuff that i'll give to you and you can splice in wherever you
01:49:56.240 want um and then people can go on to that map that i talked about and like the vast majority of what
01:50:01.720 i'm referring to is on that map and you can actually click on it and see the footage original
01:50:05.780 for yourselves and then there's also all the gunfire that was recorded after the fact and the
01:50:09.700 chatter of uh of armed suspects uh gunmen in all sorts of places being observed we we know very well
01:50:16.720 that there were lots of other things happening but we don't have a lot of other bodies except for this
01:50:22.460 woman in the uh helicopter hangar um that was allegedly shot we don't know she died we don't know
01:50:29.840 anything about her i i don't know anything about her yeah i don't think that we ever got any answers
01:50:33.740 on that this is the craziest story ever um and the craziest part is how people just sort of let it
01:50:40.220 let it go and didn't biggest mass shooting in american history we never talked about it no one ever
01:50:44.840 followed up on any of this stuff yeah no federal agency ever said wait a second we're going to cut
01:50:49.280 off highway funding unless you answer these questions well what did happen after it which is kind of
01:50:55.260 where we were there is that mbs goes on this purge of his political opposition in saudi arabia
01:51:01.740 the next time that trump flew to saudi arabia he got the sword dance welcome right do you remember
01:51:08.240 that i do yeah that that is like not a thing you just give out to donald trump because you like him
01:51:14.360 that is a whole different level of respect in saudi arabia is my understanding that's where we get that
01:51:18.380 photo of trump with his hand on the globe with the other saudi guys is from that trip
01:51:21.560 also simultaneous to that mohabibin salman invested a what appears to be two billion dollars
01:51:30.220 with a fund started by jared kushner uh in the year following this this shooting which is
01:51:37.120 an interesting choice um i mean it's not a completely unthought unthinkable choice but a lot of alignments
01:51:45.220 start to happen trump has been very pro mbs for a long time and al-waleed this other guy who owned
01:51:51.500 the uh the four seasons and got strung up by his feet he's hated trump for a long time and there's 1.00
01:51:56.820 you can actually he there's archived tweets of his that are like like trump you're a fucking idiot why 1.00
01:52:01.720 would you do this kind of stuff um and so after this shooting in vegas you start to see deep 1.00
01:52:12.520 alignments strengthen between trump's government and bin salman and bin salman's government and bin salman
01:52:19.080 is rounding up his political opposition he's modernizing saudi arabia he's trying to turn
01:52:22.560 them away from just oil and this old wahhabist way of thinking and it's obvious like from a american 0.66
01:52:29.500 uh national defense and national security standpoint that's like one of the most obvious things you
01:52:35.080 could ever desire is for saudi arabia to stop being sympathetic to al-qaeda style terrorism right
01:52:41.300 because there are factions in saudi arabia that are still very much like no f the infidels 0.99
01:52:45.820 certainly not all of them for sure and but you never thought you would see it in saudi arabia
01:52:50.400 because it's the seat of the religion because mecca medina the top two holy places are in the
01:52:55.620 country right so they didn't have it was believed that government didn't have the latitude to become
01:53:01.620 more pro-western because every muslim has to go to mecca so exactly um and so it's an interesting 0.99
01:53:07.980 moment in the political shifting of the middle east world changing right and that's as like the
01:53:13.720 middle east is rising in wealth uh through not all the best means like uh there's a whole other
01:53:18.480 episode to do about the genocide in sudan and the gold being smuggled to the uae which is uh atrocious
01:53:23.960 but you can see it's like it feels like a currency shift is coming and it feels like the middle east
01:53:29.980 is rising into their like modern incarnation there's no question and it feel it feels like all these
01:53:35.020 things are happening but may i just ask one thing just to i mean it's an amazing explanation true or not
01:53:41.700 but the piece that's missing in my mind is why if you wanted to murder muhammad bin salman would you
01:53:47.720 shoot up a jason aldean concert that is a good question and that's the question that first got
01:53:52.400 me hung up on this whole theory and i don't really know i it's still the most endearing mystery of the
01:53:59.460 whole thing to me in that we have we've aligned on a story that has a perpetrator that we know is
01:54:05.700 perfectly morally capable for doing so like essentially we're saying like kind of the most extreme
01:54:11.140 jihadi terrorist factions yeah from that that uh that is possible but it's like that still doesn't
01:54:19.040 explain why it would be a part of the plan right and different people come to different theories
01:54:23.520 here and none of them really satisfy me uh one is that we have rounds that were fired at the fuel
01:54:31.860 tanks at the airport so across from the mandalay mandalay bay across diagonally ahead of it is the
01:54:39.140 but across directly is the airport beyond the concert and there's these giant white fuel tanks
01:54:45.280 these giant metal white fuel tanks over there that got shot by uh bolt action fire and uh the i mean
01:54:53.800 the police story is that one of them penetrated but didn't ignite but it was they they say that
01:54:58.320 officially eight rounds were fired at the fuel tanks i don't know how they know eight specifically
01:55:02.620 two of them hit the fuel tanks didn't ignite and so there's a certain kind of faction of people that
01:55:08.620 think that the goal was to ignite those fuel tanks and basically explode them which to me speaks to
01:55:14.280 distraction or chaos like cause pandemonium as some reasonable some part of a plan there's a lot of
01:55:21.160 reasons why you might want pandemonium in the in an exit in something like this but um it's hard to
01:55:27.220 say what that means but in that theorizing you could then say okay well if the tanks don't ignite
01:55:34.040 then just shoot the concert goers that'll cause pandemonium that that's never really satisfied my
01:55:39.400 my question or curiosity so the idea that it was a diversion makes sense i mean of course it does make
01:55:45.180 sense to have it have any evidence so if the crown prince was in the hotel he likely would have been
01:55:51.280 above steven paddock in the four seasons portion of the hotel and is so do we have any evidence anything
01:55:59.040 weird was going on up there not to my knowledge other than the fact that we have helicopters that
01:56:07.200 we have helicopters that took off from the tour operator three of them early on before everything
01:56:13.800 started that go fly over top of the mandalay bay and then turn their transponders off and they're off for
01:56:19.660 the entire duration of the shooting don't really know what happens there um we have helicopters that
01:56:26.740 appear to be shooting that are circling around the mandalay bay in the footage and we have much later we
01:56:32.760 have reports of a armed gunman first it's a possible suspect on the fourth floor of the mandalay bay we're
01:56:38.340 talking like an hour to an hour and a half later and then just shortly after that first call uh and
01:56:44.040 it's a it's i'm pretty sure this one was reported by police not not like a 911 call but like on police
01:56:49.280 radio i could be wrong about that is it's first it's a suspect and then it escalates in a few
01:56:54.420 minutes later it's like we haven't we have a armed uh gunman in the on the fourth floor of the mandalay
01:56:59.720 bay and then we have no no follow-up on that we have no context of what happened there whether that
01:57:05.760 was real or not we don't know but other than that there's actually a serious lack of anything
01:57:10.800 happening in the mandalay bay there is the explosive breaching of the of the police team
01:57:16.400 getting in there the one swat guy with his team breaching into paddock's room um that's a question
01:57:23.560 we don't know but other than that there's not a whole lot of like reported activity right one thing
01:57:29.000 that uh i believe it was cullen again that noticed this is in the photos of the room he noticed that
01:57:36.560 there were loaded ak-47 magazines ak style magazines but there was no ak's in the room
01:57:42.980 and they were loaded with 7.62 by 39 they were full they were completely filled um as though you were
01:57:51.060 as though you had had a case that you were going to go shoot in the desert or whatever the actual
01:57:55.540 explanation for why paddock thought he was there whatever that was he speculates i don't i don't
01:58:01.660 have a better explanation but john cullen speculates that the shot that we hear earlier in the day that
01:58:08.240 was reported by someone on the floor they said it was like 3 30 or so someone reported that they heard
01:58:13.780 a shot in the mandalay bay a single shot he speculates that that's when steven paddock was killed
01:58:20.820 that they get in they open his door whether it's whether they've already manipulated the key cards or
01:58:27.260 they just knock and walk in and shoot him i don't know but this he speculates that that's when paddock
01:58:32.100 was actually killed but if you are if if you're playing out this narrative to try to make that
01:58:37.440 make sense if you are saudi hit squads and you walk into this room of paddocks filled with all these
01:58:44.860 weapons you're going to pick up the one you're familiar with right that would make that would make
01:58:50.860 sense in my mind would right has the i should have asked this earlier has the hotel ever released all
01:58:55.240 the relevant surveillance footage not a single ounce of it no even though there is endless
01:59:00.340 surveillance footage obviously every every and and it's not that they really they didn't release
01:59:05.480 footage that disproved people it's not that that that there was 911 calls and we were all because
01:59:09.840 people were conspiracy theorizing it was like something happened in the bellagio so they
01:59:13.980 released footage that showed nothing happened in the bellagio that's not what happened they didn't
01:59:18.740 release anything at all that's incredible yeah yeah and they put gag orders on all of their employees
01:59:28.060 and everything it was just this chill on everything uh i actually don't remember um at the time
01:59:36.760 i'm trying to remember if this guy was publicly traded he got yeah he this guy got into politics the ceo
01:59:44.800 of mgm he um he sold off oh yeah oh yeah man this is the thing about this story is there's so many 0.66
01:59:51.880 details that are like what the fuck the ceo of mgm i should almost refer to my notes he sold off 80 0.65
01:59:58.880 of his mgm stock like six months before the shooting happened it was uh i'm probably gonna get the numbers 0.94
02:00:08.220 wrong it was a lot of money but the number 80 i feel pretty dang confident about he sold a shitload
02:00:13.220 of his mgm stock in the months leading into this shooting i think it was six months before um
02:00:17.460 he later on was chosen to be the head of the covid task force in las vegas if i remember correctly
02:00:25.640 there's a lot of insider stuff like that of like perfect okay what the hell is going on has anyone
02:00:31.360 ever asked you know like the u.s government the saudi government about any of this i mean other than
02:00:39.540 you know journalists online like podcasters that have sort of like posed the question um john john
02:00:45.160 cullen is very fond of posing the question mindy robinson made a documentary where like she 0.95
02:00:49.400 rhetorically posed the question very angrily of like like what the fuck is this guys like are we 0.94
02:00:54.740 ever going to get answers are you are you ever going to answer for this and obviously there's no 0.94
02:00:58.660 response to any of that as far as i've ever seen um i don't think anyone has ever really posed the
02:01:03.460 question and i think that there you know you could explain it as a conspiracy theorist of like
02:01:08.780 they never it's like they're not going to tell us about 9-11 so why would they but if you when you go
02:01:14.160 the thing that's really interesting in my mind about this saudi theory um which is very much just a
02:01:18.340 theory is that it does explain why it would be geopolitically relevant and sensitive to this day
02:01:24.280 oh and why right like because then you're actually talking about u.s saudi relations right now with the
02:01:31.400 soon to be king of saudi arabia you're talking about trump's family relationships because trump
02:01:37.960 was the president at that time and he was fresh in and i'm sure that he had something to do with if
02:01:41.660 that's what happened i'm sure that trump had something to do with the response and the security
02:01:46.140 and whatever happened um but then you're also talking about u.s israel relations because bin solomon's
02:01:53.160 relationship with israel is very different than these this more hardliner very old school factions
02:01:58.860 relationship with israel right and so there's all of these relationships that shift around trump's
02:02:06.160 presidency in the united states and his relationship to bin solomon and bin solomon's ascendancy in saudi
02:02:12.460 and their relationship to everyone else in the middle east which is so critical and so it's like well
02:02:17.240 that does start to explain in my mind why it might not just be that they're covering it up because
02:02:23.060 they're embarrassed and don't want to tell you but they might actually have this sort of like
02:02:27.640 trump card so to speak of national security there's like a legitimate reason why we're
02:02:31.680 covering this up so everybody shut your mouths because it's hard like how do you cover even though
02:02:36.060 those would be the victims in this attempted murder if in fact that's what it was i have seen that
02:02:42.440 before where people are on the wrong side of you know an act of violence or the victims of it but
02:02:48.580 they don't want to talk about it well not especially when you're a king of some a kingdom so powerful
02:02:52.280 you don't want to expose a weakness you don't want to and also i've seen that you don't want to i mean
02:02:57.220 you certainly don't want to expose let alone the what is it methods techniques and of you know the
02:03:04.820 things that intelligence agencies don't want to ever give away it's like the way we do covert
02:03:08.780 operations and covert extractions and all that but even beyond like giving away state secrets like that
02:03:14.020 it's like you also don't want to expose all of the collateral damage that was caused in the wake of
02:03:19.220 this thing right because inevitably so let's just imagine that muhammad salman they tried to kill 0.98
02:03:24.800 him in vegas and he was the good guy in the story even though you know that is not what's being said
02:03:29.340 here um the life is all shades of gray but it's there's almost no version of that story where a
02:03:36.620 civilian isn't killed because of his team as well and you know an american isn't killed because because
02:03:41.620 you know the swat team wasn't there to do that because they were over there doing that which by the 0.96
02:03:45.840 way where the fuck was the swat team right so now that we've gone through all of this narrative and 0.69
02:03:51.300 and evidence just like kind of teasing out and then we come back to where was the swat team it makes a 0.97
02:03:58.040 lot more sense i bet in the audience's mind and this is for me this was how my own digging into it
02:04:02.940 happened because i came into this naive and i look at all this journalism and early on i stumble across
02:04:08.920 the body cam footage of them breaching the room and it doesn't really stick out to me that there's only
02:04:13.980 one swat guy with them even though i acknowledged it but it was like that's weird but then like
02:04:19.800 after this snaking journey through trying to learn all these other elements of what was going on and
02:04:24.100 you start to learn about the airport and you learn about the other hotels and you learn about the
02:04:27.380 possible extraction of like a king then it's like okay so where was the swat team the possible
02:04:33.220 extraction of the king do we have any suggestion that that happened no no we do not know and honestly
02:04:39.200 now that i'm mentioning it and i'm kind of thinking it through right now one of the only like
02:04:43.480 and i'm not saying this is concrete evidence i'm actually saying the opposite because one of the
02:04:47.900 most concrete pieces of evidence is that the swat team was not at the place where they should have
02:04:52.900 been they should have been at stephen paddock's door this is the most this is one of the most
02:04:56.680 decorated experienced and well-funded biggest swat team one of the biggest swat teams in america
02:05:02.080 and they had one guy they had one shooter in one room that they should have been breaching
02:05:06.100 but when you actually look at the true story there's all these other things happening that
02:05:11.400 might have needed their attention more but my understanding is that swat is actually used for
02:05:17.940 protection of high-level dignitaries used for extraction of high-level like that's the kind
02:05:23.040 of thing that i could imagine them actually being diverted to right for sure because if this event was
02:05:28.020 this more complex thing of some sort they're not going to send them to stephen paddock's room
02:05:31.980 that actually that's the last place you want to send your swat team right especially once the
02:05:36.880 shooting from paddock's room has stopped because if you're already getting reports of something going
02:05:41.620 on at the airport or have like if what we're talking about is happening at all then you're
02:05:47.500 probably getting reports directly from this whoever high-level dignitary or person that's trying to be
02:05:51.920 assassinated there's probably deeper levels of intel being fed to whoever makes the decision of where
02:05:56.840 the swat team goes and so it's you suddenly have a pretty obvious explanation of like the swat team
02:06:02.320 wasn't there because something more important was happening yes and i don't think and we know the
02:06:06.820 swat team wasn't at the concert we don't have evidence of the swat team being at the hotels i don't
02:06:12.840 have any evidence of them being at the airport although we don't really have enough evidence to say
02:06:16.480 whether they were or not at the airport but where were they because that actually i think is one of the
02:06:21.940 biggest pieces of this puzzle and he would have secret service as well right so you said about 60
02:06:27.880 people were killed yeah over 100 i know were shot yeah i think it was 400 plus were wounded in total
02:06:34.760 so that's a lot of survivors that's a lot of families of the of the murdered have any of them
02:06:39.340 raised these questions a lot of them did early on and i think a lot of them still do but a lot of
02:06:45.460 people i think feel voiceless and in a lot of ways are voiceless if no one's going to go to you
02:06:49.700 if the media is not going to investigate it if there's never going to be a federal investigation
02:06:54.560 then they have no recourse and so what wound up happening was independent media started going to
02:07:00.260 them so there was no in the i mean i was in the fabled mainstream media at the time i don't remember
02:07:07.440 anyone really pushing on this very hard do you know of any as far as i'm aware you're the one that
02:07:12.260 pushed the hardest it wasn't that hard no yeah we did get um hassled by the police in las vegas which
02:07:19.640 was striking because yeah you work at fox news basically pro cop all the cops know that you
02:07:26.140 know i've never had any problem with any cop they're always so nice and i think the only time
02:07:30.780 i've ever had up in the last 20 years anyway i've ever had a hostility from the police was in las
02:07:36.380 vegas and they tried to block us from our camera position which was in a vacant lot i'll never forget
02:07:42.420 this and it was at night and they they tried to make us leave and i thought that's i remember saying
02:07:47.300 man we've never gotten that treatment interesting were you was it on any specific lot like yeah it
02:07:53.480 was right um it was a camera shot so we were uh you know we were fake i was doing like a stand-up
02:07:58.340 facing the area where the shooting took place and um they just weren't about it no and they were
02:08:07.300 weird about it too really weird about it and hostile and uh that was just so striking because
02:08:13.960 again if you work at ask anyone who works at fox you know you see cops and they're just so nice
02:08:18.860 because everyone hates cops except you know the fox news anchors that's their view anyway so i'm never
02:08:23.420 i never experienced that before yeah yeah and it was it was weird the whole government just shut up
02:08:28.120 about it and the mainstream media it was like three days later the story just died most most horrific
02:08:33.480 mass shooting in american history and those victims like a lot of them are still alive but they're
02:08:39.340 paralyzed a lot of them have brain damage a lot of them like lost limbs or eyes or things like that
02:08:43.840 it's it's a real tragedy and it's easy to get into conspiracy land only with it um and i do think
02:08:49.880 it's important to try to uncover what really happened obviously to try to dig out what the hell is this
02:08:55.440 but it's also it's it's easy to lose sight of the fact that like that was hundreds of americans and then
02:09:01.720 by extension thousands of americans thousands and thousands of americans whose lives will never be the
02:09:06.220 same because of that who lost family members lost loved ones and they and these were like
02:09:11.140 it's really sad on that map um that i was telling you about vegas shooting map they have death reports
02:09:18.780 of of like all the victims pinned onto the map and it gives you like their age their name their
02:09:25.860 profession and in some cases it gives you a little description of who they were and what their life was
02:09:29.800 like and what they were doing and it's just so sad to read because like a lot of them is like
02:09:34.620 was there with her boyfriend to celebrate their anniversary like was a kindergarten teacher or you
02:09:39.460 know things like that that's just and and that's where it really hits home where it's like you need
02:09:44.200 you need an explanation that that explains why something so evil would happen yes and i think
02:09:49.320 that's the enduring question that keeps the investigation open but it's also the enduring
02:09:54.380 question that makes it makes it so that it wasn't solved by just like these basic explanations
02:09:59.320 because we easily debunked the mainstream narrative but then there was lots of other sort of like
02:10:04.760 half-baked versions of maybe it's this maybe it's this but none of them explained how evil it was and
02:10:09.920 none of them explained the scope and scale of what it was and to this day there's no there's no one
02:10:15.580 proven theory um i've just sort of laid out what is the most explored and i think by my standard the
02:10:21.820 most credible version of a theory um and a lot of people are pretty much on that theory at this point
02:10:27.120 that they think that that's the the the one that is a version of true um but it's not the only theory
02:10:33.380 and uh it's as far from proven that's for sure and it wouldn't be i mean there's a thing you ask like
02:10:41.680 has there ever been any investigators i'm sure the government already knows of course like that's the
02:10:47.360 reason why you get the cover-up of this magnitude is because they know they know what happens obvious
02:10:51.160 whenever there's not an investigation it's not because no one's interested yeah um and we've
02:10:57.400 seen that a lot in fact we've seen it so much that you sort of wonder at what point it's just impossible
02:11:02.820 to have like a functioning justice system because nobody believes anything yeah and it's just over
02:11:09.560 and over again when something happens we feel like we're not like like charlie kirk is months months
02:11:16.300 ago now and to this day i think the most americans still feel like we don't have an honest set of
02:11:23.760 answers um whether you believe it was tyler robinson or you believe it was some version of some other
02:11:28.900 conspiracy i think that a lot of people feel very underwhelmed by the way it was handled by cash the way
02:11:35.740 it was handled by every government official involved and that should have been the most basic one
02:11:40.940 so i didn't want to talk about this because i'm you know i know everyone involved very well and i feel
02:11:47.840 emotional about it and i'm going out you know day after tomorrow to speak at turning point at charlie's
02:11:52.620 request but um i don't so my the hostility that i i don't know what that was it the onus is on the
02:12:01.180 government to prove it was a lone gunman okay it's that's up to them not up to me that's their job
02:12:06.360 i'm not accusing anybody i don't know exactly what happened there is a lot of evidence that
02:12:12.520 tyler robinson was involved at least from what i read yeah um if those text messages are real and
02:12:18.080 the murder weapon is you know like i'm willing to believe anything but i do think it's up to them
02:12:22.380 to prove it to us yeah here's what i don't understand there's been an enormous amount of rage
02:12:29.780 uh you know different people with different views getting mad at each other there's been
02:12:34.840 almost no pressure on federal law enforcement to cough up the freaking facts and to tell a story
02:12:43.360 that makes sense just in that's got internal coherence that like oh that makes sense like i
02:12:47.160 get it exactly and there's no pressure on them even the question of motive like again i want to
02:12:53.800 believe it was a lone gunman who was a tranny or something i want to believe that's a lot better of 1.00
02:12:59.040 an answer a lot more comfortable 100 i want that by the way i'm a middle-aged man i'm a normie
02:13:04.820 i don't want to believe anything other than what they tell me but they've made it impossible for me
02:13:10.700 so but i don't understand the motive like they're like well transgenderism which obviously i'm opposed 0.82
02:13:15.840 to but okay was he transgender was he on yeah hormones was he how do you go from being this
02:13:23.140 seemingly normal person to murdering a stranger with almost a dead certainty you'll be
02:13:29.340 pun it you'll spend life in prison or be executed for it like that's a lot that's a deep commitment okay
02:13:34.600 yeah i'm not saying it doesn't happen of course it does but like how did it happen in this case
02:13:39.940 yeah and tell us the facts right yeah yeah and it's like shut up yeah and it's like this it's a
02:13:44.520 parallel to the las vegas in the sense that just one piece of evidence in in in the case of charlie
02:13:49.820 kirk it's one piece of evidence in the case of las vegas it's like five trillion well the las vegas
02:13:53.820 thing the story is just like it well what i what i was going to say is that the video is we know they
02:13:58.560 haven't like in vegas we know that there's surveillance footage of the entire city we know
02:14:03.500 that every hotel has footage of everything that happened and we know that they could release it and
02:14:08.840 we could see these alleged gunmen we could see these fake 911 calls right and in charlie's case
02:14:14.340 we know that the camera that they released footage of of this guy running across the roof that camera
02:14:19.080 sees the whole roof that camera sees the shooting position clearly i went there myself and so it's like
02:14:24.680 if you have the video of the shooter running to get off the roof you have the video of him taking
02:14:28.100 the shot and so it's these little things where you don't take that step to release the evidence that
02:14:33.960 is so in our faces to just give a little bit of trust to the public to clarify things it's like why
02:14:39.760 don't you take this step for trust because like you're saying it's their job to prove these things
02:14:44.220 it's their job to it's not up it's not up to you or me i mean i've stayed out of it um mostly i've
02:14:49.720 really tried my hardest to stay out of it but i feel emotional about it but you're watching the
02:14:55.160 trump coalition turn against itself eat itself and okay fine i mean there are legitimate disagreements
02:15:01.480 of course i'm always for that but no calls for the fbi or the authorities in utah yeah or the college
02:15:11.360 like there's no pressure on them what is that yeah well you wouldn't want to taint a jury pool 0.90
02:15:16.860 that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard yeah it's kind of dumb how many crimes have covered 0.86
02:15:24.000 i was a police reporter and like the first thing that happens is the authorities call you up and 0.99
02:15:28.620 they tell you this exactly what this they tell you their story yeah that taints a jury pool yeah it does
02:15:33.600 in favor of conviction yeah so i've never i mean i've been around this for over 30 years i'm not an
02:15:42.080 expert in anything but i've certainly seen law enforcement respond to a crime yeah a lot and i've
02:15:48.120 never heard anybody say anything like this doesn't make any sense like what is it what does it even
02:15:51.860 mean yeah and to me being being like younger and newer in this thing having more naivete it's hard
02:15:59.440 growing up so i'm like the quintessential 9-11 generation i was like seven eight nine i was what was it
02:16:05.180 2001 i would have been nine when 9-11 happened and so to me with my life experience it's just hard not to
02:16:11.640 be like when you see the government act this way it's because they're covering up one of these
02:16:16.440 things that i don't know what they are by the way when i act that way i'm covering something when you
02:16:21.400 do too that's a human thing if i'm yeah hiding something if i'm lying about something there's a
02:16:27.120 reason i'm not doing it unless i'm like some total sociopath freak i'm not doing it for fun i'm doing 0.50
02:16:31.760 it because i'm trying to conceal something exactly and i think that we've just i mean we've always had
02:16:36.880 them throughout history we had them in vietnam we had them long before that like they've been
02:16:41.480 everywhere in history but i don't know if it's information increasing the frequency that they feel
02:16:46.960 like they're happening at or if it's corruption increasing as the empire sort of late stages
02:16:51.960 itself but it just feels like we're in this era now where every couple years we get another one that
02:16:56.920 is so big it's hard to imagine a bigger one and then boom covet hits right that's like what could
02:17:02.840 even be weirder than the and it's like i'm not saying that one is more important than the other
02:17:06.580 but i think it's just striking that over and over there's always more gigantic world events that feel
02:17:13.260 viscerally like cover-ups where there's no reason for there to be a cover-up of the assassination of
02:17:18.940 someone like charlie especially when trump like who charlie got into power is in power when that's
02:17:24.760 they're like and it's not like it's trump's job to solve the crime it's just that you know you would
02:17:29.840 hope that he has a coalition in place and that his government and his fbi and his people
02:17:33.820 that they should have no greater uh motivation ever than to solve this crime but what about all of
02:17:41.400 the people who you know new charlie or who are sad or you know every american why are they turning
02:17:49.300 against each other and not against the authorities that whose job it is i would always think this about 0.99
02:17:54.920 the race crap it's like blacks should hate whites whites should be afraid of blacks okay got it 0.99
02:18:00.060 no one ever mentions like private equity it did feel like a fight amongst yourselves scenario and 1.00
02:18:08.000 this does too i think it's exactly what happened during covid and obviously i have a big bias here
02:18:12.980 and people should should only listen to me about charlie kirk through my bias around my reporting on it
02:18:18.000 but to me it looks like the same sort of mass formation psychosis that happened during covid
02:18:23.700 it's just that that was better at targeting the left because it was like collectivism of collectively
02:18:29.040 we're going to protect all the sick people and leftists aren't you know never mind um this one is 0.99
02:18:35.700 targeting the right because they shot our guy and we loved charlie and like and these these damn 1.00
02:18:41.500 leftists hate us right and we've got this we've got our leftist tranny guy and we hate and and they're 0.99
02:18:46.520 whipping it up on that and all the news is parroting the same thing and all of the i'm not gonna name
02:18:50.920 any names but all the talking heads on social media that are not independent they're all saying the
02:18:56.160 exact same narrative and so you get this spiraling narrative that is building this i don't even know 0.81
02:18:59.980 what the narrative is like i'm happy to buy into your dumb narrative just tell me what it is and
02:19:05.180 well as i said my preference is for a an easy to understand non-sinister or less sinister explanation 0.52
02:19:13.460 that involves one guy but if you're telling me the trainee did this actually the trainee seems to
02:19:18.920 be in federal protection right now with no charges against him even though by the text messages they
02:19:24.120 released he had four he knew about it and didn't go to authorities so how is he not an accessory how
02:19:29.640 why is he under protection what's this so he can testify we have the text messages you don't need like
02:19:34.800 what shouldn't a guy who knew about the crime but didn't report it who lived with the gunman
02:19:39.300 shouldn't he be charged with something what about the people who predicted this on the internet
02:19:43.600 before it happened yeah where are they and like okay so i don't really even know what this what
02:19:49.780 story are you telling me i don't even get it right sorry i'm upset no i totally hear it and it's i think
02:19:56.300 it's a rage that a lot of americans feel and they look for outlet because right some people see this
02:20:01.740 piece that didn't make sense and some people see that piece that didn't make sense and others see
02:20:04.680 others just feel just feel a weird vibe from it but was the shooter transgender is that what
02:20:10.800 they're saying okay then what does that have to do with it all what he became like gay for the 0.94
02:20:15.960 transgender guy but it's just like it doesn't have anything to do with it unless you can prove with 0.70
02:20:21.640 the facts that like he actually had the motive the means the weapon the location but what was the
02:20:26.800 motive that charlie had said bad things i mean look a few times i know that people were you know
02:20:33.140 the left hated charlie fact they celebrated his death fact but to kill somebody you've never met
02:20:41.300 it's a pretty abstract thing to do and to plan it out and to go through with it right 100 so you're 0.81
02:20:47.140 either completely deranged or your ideological motivation is so profound you're a suicide bomber 0.68
02:20:53.660 basically because you know that you're not gonna you're gonna die because of your murder so that's just
02:20:59.160 such a big step i'm not saying it didn't happen i'm just saying tell me how tell me how the 4.0
02:21:04.440 student that like nearly aced his act became that it's insane and then the rage of like even asking
02:21:12.440 that question it's like and i never say this but i just i just will say i knew charlie really well like
02:21:17.560 not you know not just green room friends like i know him really well and um and and you know loved
02:21:23.000 him and so and i know for a fact that his whole life was testament to this he was for
02:21:28.340 inquiry you know honest questions so people like oh just asking questions charlie be like yeah just
02:21:33.180 asking questions as is my birthright yeah as an american citizen well yeah you think and so you're so
02:21:40.680 what you're saying is that mass formation psychology clearly has taken hold among a bunch of people where
02:21:46.100 it's like they just can't think clearly well i don't think that it takes hold by accident i think that
02:21:49.700 it's the kind of thing that only happens when you have a massive propaganda campaign and it's like
02:21:53.720 basically a state-sponsored operation to control the information space as well there's definitely
02:21:59.640 i mean there's definitely some of that that's flat out we know because i'm watching it and i'm not gonna
02:22:05.640 you know whatever i'm gonna just shut up now because i know too many people involved and i and i love
02:22:11.740 them all honestly so and it's like with the vegas shooting with a lot of these things it can kind of
02:22:16.900 get swept under the rug right it can kind of get put away and with vegas they managed to sort of just
02:22:21.580 stop talking about it and a lot of like you know independent journalists were loud but there's a lot
02:22:28.100 of other stuff going on and none of them really had massive platforms and we weren't in the era of the
02:22:33.320 internet we are in today yet and so it was enough to just kind of sweep it under the rug and they never
02:22:38.460 had to like build some big complex alternative narrative and flood the zone and have shills kind of
02:22:44.080 doing and charlie's is just a different thing and it's like each each time like with covid we got
02:22:49.440 our own slice of what is weird going on here um with vegas we got our own slice of like a cover-up
02:22:55.560 right different different suspicious crimes that aren't explained require different cover-ups and
02:23:01.320 it's it's like everyone has their own opinion about what's going on with charlie i have mine for sure
02:23:04.940 but um but the people are getting getting wise to this it's not adding up thing like it shouldn't be
02:23:13.780 a mystery like when you have a regular crime in your town and you get a regular sheriff to come
02:23:18.420 and explain the crime and show you the evidence and you get a regular court trial about it i don't think
02:23:23.280 that's usually like some grand mystery of like i think that the local sheriff is covering up the fact
02:23:27.820 that this robbery happened it's like no it's just like you've got evidence you got photos you got it is
02:23:32.660 um but it's there's there's these certain moments in history where not because everyone's wanting
02:23:40.760 everything to always be this way but because sometimes the facts don't line up like they just
02:23:46.680 don't line up with what we're told at all and vegas is one of the most like most intensely like
02:23:54.560 powerful tragic violent and deadly of all of them and it's one of the ones where the facts line up
02:24:02.120 less than any other i totally it's one of the most i'm actually shocked by this conversation
02:24:06.720 now someone with like a passing familiarity with that i thought but i just didn't realize
02:24:12.280 how absurd the story is like it's absurd and the crazy part is how much there actually is right
02:24:20.220 there open source like just vegashootingmap.com that i was telling you about just that one web page
02:24:25.740 has just hours and hours and hours of stuff that immediately disprove the the mainstream narrative
02:24:33.440 it was all there i mean vaccinating people you knew got covid i mean what i remember this was
02:24:40.760 happening all not that i knew a lot of vaccinated people i tried not to spend time with i was always
02:24:45.540 uncomfortable around the vaccinated but um but i did know some and they all had covid and i'm like
02:24:50.600 this is clearly a lie and then every day you'd be like how many times they never got over because
02:24:55.920 they still have covid but then you'd watch on tv safe and effective you can't get covid it's like
02:25:00.080 how can they say that i just sat like a dog with my jaw open like what is this i'm watching this
02:25:05.260 yeah i gotta ask you one last question um so i've never seen anybody is about you i've never seen
02:25:13.540 anybody sort of come to prominence faster ever in our world and that's led to a lot of speculation
02:25:22.500 that you're a cia officer in disguise or i'm like massad yeah massad i hadn't even seen that but yeah
02:25:29.220 probably massad i guess and um so i you know my personal explanation is just an amazing explainer and a
02:25:37.740 diligent researcher and you're really interested in what's true and those are the three qualities that
02:25:43.420 make a successful person in our world however it's worth asking like how the hell did you get
02:25:49.220 so famous so fast where did you come from and how did you decide to do this yeah i uh i've told this
02:25:54.740 story a few different times um but it's it is it's i'll never get used to it it's wild it's bizarre to
02:26:01.360 go from the life i had three years ago to the life i live right now um but it was a combination of
02:26:07.520 luck and skill and timing i think as far as i can tell in that i did study the social media landscape
02:26:15.400 um to try to figure out how to get into it because i wanted to get into it i at first i thought i was
02:26:20.700 going to get into it with ultra running content because i thought like you need to do something
02:26:23.900 unique that's like really special um and i thought well ultra running is cool and unique but ultimately
02:26:29.560 that's not that's like this weird ego mindset um that is not the way to do anything in life
02:26:34.180 least of all be on the internet um and so in doing that for about a year can you explain what
02:26:39.440 that means just that that there's a lot of dudes especially women have the same problem but it just
02:26:45.560 presents differently i think there's a lot of dudes with ego on the internet trying to show off how
02:26:50.660 freaking cool they are and you should subscribe because they're cool and that is a hollow reason
02:26:55.420 to follow someone and it's a hollow way to build an audience and it's a hollow way to build your
02:26:59.280 platform your job and your life because inherently it's a it's a it's a dog eat dog world where
02:27:07.000 everyone is just out for themselves right it's a world where everyone that's doing it for those
02:27:10.960 reasons is just going to try to do what's going to make them look the coolest and be the best
02:27:15.440 yeah and inherently you're not the coolest no exactly you're not the coolest you're just a dude
02:27:19.660 and we're all kind of absurd actually unfortunately by the time i was kind of because i'd worked in
02:27:25.320 kitchens i'd worked in education and teaching i'd worked i'd traveled and done travel work i'd done
02:27:29.760 all sorts of stuff throughout my life and by the time in my early 30s i was kind of wanting to get 0.92
02:27:34.200 into this um largely because of covid because i was like fuck working in kitchens i'm done with that 0.53
02:27:38.940 and i used to be doing kitchens oh line cooking kitchen managing i love cooking on the line so 0.97
02:27:44.840 cooking everything from breakfast cooking to pizza to fine dining um are you a good cook yeah yeah
02:27:51.200 really good cook i've got i mean i've got like eight or nine years of experience like cooking
02:27:55.980 all sorts of different genres some really amazing co-workers actually oh yeah yeah yeah and i like
02:28:00.920 worked at a hand-thrown pizza place for a long time and i how'd you stay so thin uh i have crohn's
02:28:06.680 disease oh yeah and so it's like that then that's actually where the ultra running was really
02:28:12.040 interesting thing is that um for me nutrition and health and food has always ever since i figured
02:28:16.440 out what was going on with my health uh nutrition health and food has been a huge part of my life
02:28:21.120 just getting getting right i had no choice thank god because then once i got my health right i was
02:28:26.120 like whoa it feels amazing to feel regular and amazing and then i just like dove into fitness
02:28:32.080 and running and all these things um and so by the time i had kind of like covid had clearly woken me up
02:28:38.160 to i don't want a dead-end job and i don't want to work in kitchens and i don't want to live this life
02:28:43.320 anymore and i used to be a teacher i was raised by teachers i'm supposed to be like my spark is for
02:28:48.000 learning and for like sharing learning because teaching is not really teaching teaching is
02:28:52.580 sharing the experience of learning exactly right it's sharing the spark and and i know that and i
02:28:57.920 knew that and so and i knew that learning happens where people pay attention not where teachers tell
02:29:02.800 people to pay attention exactly and so if you really want to change or inspire kids or like teach kids
02:29:07.320 you got to be where they're looking which is in here yes right and i knew that four years ago when i
02:29:12.820 kind of stopped my last teaching gig i guess it was like three um but i was scared to take the leap
02:29:18.540 and somewhere during covid eventually it was just like whatever i'm into fine let's start and i started
02:29:24.380 in running content but it was just it was wrong and i knew it was wrong um but i learned a lot and i
02:29:29.300 studied the industry while i was doing it and then eventually i shut that down i was like i want because
02:29:35.200 if you're going to do this it's going to be your day job right and so if my day job is to like make
02:29:41.220 ultra running content and look really be really cool and stuff then i have to go on an adventure
02:29:45.700 every week i have to go do some new crazy like athletic accomplishment every week to try to be
02:29:51.000 cool on the internet which is a horrible thing to do with your life yeah and it turns all of your fun
02:29:55.140 adventures into work right exactly and it's a bad business model if you're just thinking about a
02:29:59.220 business model and it's like well i should be doing information for a million reasons and i flipped and
02:30:04.760 switched um and right away i i mean i had some skills that were really applicable and i had uh
02:30:12.680 a lot of luck along the way of people that i met and people that saw my stuff and people that enjoyed
02:30:17.760 my content but i had really good timing too where i started on tiktok right when the censorship wasn't
02:30:22.060 too bad and they're pushing longer videos and then i got onto x right as diddy was happening and then
02:30:27.100 candace found my diddy reporting and kind of boosted me there and then i got into i intentionally got
02:30:32.160 onto youtube after trump was elected so that i wouldn't be throttled by old youtube policies at
02:30:37.660 least that was my theory um so i've had a mixture of factors but ultimately i don't know man it's been
02:30:45.440 crazy it's been a wild ride yeah i mean you went from anonymous to famous like faster than it was
02:30:51.220 uncomfortable yeah it's it's like the kind of thing where fortunately i don't have like i can only
02:30:57.520 imagine if you had like some weird fucked up life in your past and then suddenly you are famous and 0.88
02:31:01.440 you're like oh gosh because fortunately i was just like a hippie that ran around in the woods and like
02:31:05.620 had taught kids and it's like it's like cool whatever i'm perfectly proud of my life i have
02:31:11.000 no issue no felony record or anything exactly nothing no criminal record nothing crazy and it and it's
02:31:17.000 like but it still is like a weird like shift of how you like how your privacy is like what does your
02:31:24.080 family think like how do you kind of keep your family safe from the public eye in general too
02:31:29.380 um it's just a crazy transition and and it's crazy to transition from being able to say whatever
02:31:34.840 i wanted when i was first starting because the whole point was to just do like i started the
02:31:39.000 first tiktok account called cancel this clothing company as in like cancel me i'm gonna say some
02:31:43.000 crazy shit i'm just a conspiracy theorist like i'm just gonna do tinfoil but i was always actually 0.83
02:31:48.820 just trying to do evidence-based trying to figure out what the hell is going on out here and i knew that 0.99
02:31:52.760 you need permission in yourself to to go anywhere in order to figure it out it's like growing up on 9-11
02:31:58.640 and it's like well what the hell happened there and and it really teaches you you have to be willing
02:32:03.540 to like listen to crazy theories and digest crazy ideas and worse maybe they're not true but you got
02:32:08.440 to make sure they're not and so i had thought that like i had started this whole thing just kind of
02:32:13.460 saying whatever i wanted doing whatever i wanted and as i kind of grew really really fast it's like
02:32:17.620 holy shit there's a lot of weight and gravity in what we do here sure and it is and we are in a
02:32:21.640 really charged and important time and i try to hold both those truths at once now somehow so important 0.97
02:32:26.600 because you can't like acquiesce to the gravity of the situation and then like stiffen up and become
02:32:32.220 like calcified yeah and just and just stay within your lines and be careful all the time
02:32:37.280 because sometimes you have to say audacious things and sometimes like sometimes unbelievable things are
02:32:43.360 what's really happening you have to really think audacious things exactly and if you don't if you don't
02:32:48.460 allow yourself if you live you know in a mental prison you're you're gonna miss things and you 0.54
02:32:55.400 gotta stay authentic too it's like if you are if you let you know the scope of the task or the scope
02:33:01.660 of the audience or whatever limits you and like constrain you suddenly you're not authentic you're
02:33:05.520 not doing what you're really doing um but also you gotta be careful to not you know be authentic in a
02:33:10.800 way that like you will regret which i actually love my favorite thing about this industry and about
02:33:15.580 this world this job is that social media in general and i and i think i'm a huge proponent that
02:33:21.140 other people start making things online um not everyone should but there's a lot of people that
02:33:26.240 are just scared to start but they're like on twitter anonymously contributing to the conversation i'm
02:33:30.860 like dude make a video it's way easier for us to interact with you it's way easier for us to
02:33:34.080 understand you and the reason why i think this industry is so wonderful is because it's sort of
02:33:39.140 like the it's like your whole human self is here in this because you're communicating things you're not
02:33:44.740 just communicating facts and information of it like a journalist you're also communicating like
02:33:48.680 how to live how to be like who are you like what's going on here what do you believe right
02:33:53.900 people choose what conversations to be a part of but ultimately like who you are while you do this
02:34:00.760 journey is immensely connected to how good you are at the job oh right and how well you convey your
02:34:07.880 message oh absolutely how well you sort of like figure out the facts and so and you can go anywhere
02:34:12.920 you want like i've set up my platform in a way where like i can go make running content if i want or
02:34:17.460 i can go to a burger joint and eat a burger and support a family-owned burger restaurant it's like
02:34:21.820 i just launched an app that'll let me support family and found our own businesses and stuff
02:34:25.700 and and it's like i can do anything i want here and and the only limiting factor is if i'm like
02:34:32.080 whole and healthy and happy and true to myself and there's really no other job like that teaching
02:34:38.240 is kind of like that and that how you show up in the classroom is like you're doing this full
02:34:43.180 human experience with other humans yes interfacing with them and that's one of the coolest things
02:34:47.460 um and in some ways this is very similar but but like making pizzas isn't like that you know
02:34:53.680 delivering food isn't like that i've done them both yeah it's fun and it's i highly recommend that
02:34:59.160 everyone do like some honest real like restaurant work blue collar work construction work oh all that
02:35:05.800 kind of stuff it's like so freaking good no i was forced to do it uh but i uh just on principle
02:35:11.840 you know growing up i was a pizza delivery boy i was a factory worker yeah i had a lot of fun
02:35:18.060 yeah dishwasher but uh no i i completely agree with that so where will you be sort of starting
02:35:26.400 research next i am pretty dedicated to sticking with the charlie thing for a while until we figure
02:35:32.120 it out but it's but that's not your question um but and well that is my question i mean so that's
02:35:38.500 that's where your energy is focused i firmly believe that here's my perspective and my bias
02:35:44.380 just to qualify what i said before i'm sure people already know this but i believe that what happened
02:35:50.100 there was not what we were told and just like like as with las vegas the moment that what you're told is 0.98
02:35:57.040 not true a million other things immediately come into play because why the fuck are you lying about it and 0.93
02:36:02.480 then like why so what is this because suddenly if it's even slightly not true we're looking at a 0.83
02:36:09.220 cover-up plus we're looking at a different perpetrator we're looking at something else here
02:36:12.640 and so when i look at charlie kirk's murder i see what looks like a cover-up and i see that that's not
02:36:20.660 true for many reasons but then i can't square any other version of the story that is not one of the
02:36:28.620 most important political moments in our time right now in terms of the political factions involved in
02:36:33.160 terms of the shifting geopolitical relationships in the world in terms of what's going to be
02:36:37.640 happening to my people in america today and now in like the unity or disunity that might we might
02:36:42.960 experience over the next 10 years here and beyond and so when i think about like what's the most
02:36:48.180 important story that i can devote my time to figuring out right now to hopefully ensure a better america
02:36:52.880 for my children to grow up in it's charlie kirk um and i don't know is i don't really believe that
02:36:58.320 we're really going to ever get an answer um which is unfortunately a hallmark of these types of
02:37:02.360 things but i'm damn well going to spend my time to try um and that doesn't mean i'm going to exclude
02:37:09.140 everything else like for example i'm actually now that now that you kind of brought this uh vegas
02:37:13.840 shooting back up i've gotten inspired where i want to go back and learn a shitload more about that and
02:37:17.980 kind of dig even deeper and get more familiar with that because that will inform the other thing and
02:37:22.740 that will inform the other thing so i'm very much focused on what happened to charlie kirk
02:37:27.780 and watching this trial play out and watching the spider webbing branches of that play out but i'm
02:37:33.600 also trying to shift back to i would mention this app so i'm shifting back to um folks on corporate
02:37:38.020 corruption in america as well because in a lot of ways like the big like tinfoily like 9-11 kind of
02:37:43.960 things they're fun but like how your food is being poisoned and how the corporations are being
02:37:49.920 incentivized to basically shit all over us and take all of our money like those sorts of things affect our
02:37:54.980 day-to-day lives right private equity affects like like real people every day in america so 0.92
02:38:01.280 there's that's a very much more grounded thing that i'm trying to focus on and then the other thing is
02:38:06.080 um well actually i shouldn't really talk about that story yet but i have a i have a friend that is on a
02:38:09.900 story that uh is kind of like a financial thing that we'll we'll look into later so in carol thank
02:38:18.300 you for spending all this time it's been a pleasure man i feel like we could i was about to say i i've
02:38:22.180 been a long time fan but you've only been here three years but i am a fan and uh i think you're
02:38:27.860 brave and and really interesting and and trustworthy so thank you it was an honor thanks