The Tucker Carlson Show - October 09, 2025


ICE Protests and Antifa Riots: Tucker Carlson Warns of Total Destruction if America Doesn’t Act Fast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 23 minutes

Words per Minute

172.65814

Word Count

14,335

Sentence Count

305

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

60


Summary

The United States is moving toward civil war. Why? Why is it happening? And what would it mean if it did happen? What would it look like? And why is it worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign enemy?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, not to be depressing, but here's the truth and something you should keep in mind
00:00:03.740 over the next few years. The United States, two things to keep in mind. The United States
00:00:07.960 is moving, not inexorably, but still moving toward civil war, number one. And number two,
00:00:16.720 civil wars are the very worst kind of wars, worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign
00:00:23.400 adversary. So to number one, why is America moving towards civil war? For the same reason
00:00:28.100 all countries that wind up in civil war get there, because the differences between their
00:00:33.280 population, between people within their borders, becomes too great to bear. People decide I have
00:00:39.520 nothing in common with people who live near me, and I don't want to live near them anymore. In other
00:00:44.260 words, diversity, difference, is actually intolerable to most people. Not necessarily
00:00:50.100 racial diversity, though sometimes that too, but diversity of all kinds. It is not our strength.
00:00:55.220 In fact, it is without question our weakness, and it has always been. If you have nothing in
00:01:00.040 common with your wife, do you have a stronger marriage? No, of course your marriage falls
00:01:02.660 apart, and the same is true for countries. And the truth about the United States is that on
00:01:06.840 every level, beginning with a demographic level, the American population has less in common with
00:01:12.500 itself, with one another, than ever before. When I was born, which wasn't that long ago,
00:01:17.320 it was the modern era, it was air travel and air conditioning, electricity. When I was born,
00:01:23.620 the United States was about 90% white Christian. It's now less than 40% white Christian. Now,
00:01:29.720 you may think that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a massive change, an unprecedented change,
00:01:34.960 really, in a very short period of time. And of course, it's not accidental or organic. That was
00:01:39.400 the result of policies put in place to achieve that result, and they did. There are people who
00:01:43.420 didn't want a majority white Christian country. Okay, they got what they wanted, but what do they have?
00:01:49.140 They have a country with no majority demographically at all. There is no American majority, which is to
00:01:58.220 say 51% of people who have something very basic in common. And so what you have is an inherently
00:02:04.740 fractured country. Languages, religions, ethnicities, backgrounds, beliefs, too innumerable to catalog.
00:02:13.600 And so a country like that, unless unified by something, will split apart, particularly when
00:02:20.520 that country is the size of a continent, and is held together by a pretty fragile web of infrastructure,
00:02:26.880 air routes and highways. And so unless you are very self-conscious about keeping it together
00:02:32.860 physically, but also spiritually, explaining to people why they should have any regard at all,
00:02:40.580 much less any obligation to people in, say, the next town, much less the next state.
00:02:47.220 Unless you do that self-consciously, unless you inculcate a sense of national identity,
00:02:52.300 it will by nature fall apart. That is a physics principle, entropy. It'll blow up unless you hold
00:02:59.560 it together. And this has been an untended garden for decades, decades. Nobody in charge of the United
00:03:08.380 States over the past, say, 40 years has really tried to articulate why all of us should live
00:03:15.360 together on the same continent. There's kind of been an unspoken ethos of America, a kind of gay
00:03:22.580 rights technocracy, globo homo. We're all kind of cool with, you know, lifestyles. But that's thin
00:03:29.280 gruel in the end. It's also repulsive. But even if you like it, it's not enough to hold people together
00:03:35.240 who don't have common beliefs, backgrounds, languages, religions. It's just not. It's pathetic.
00:03:40.380 It's rich people politics. It doesn't actually mean anything. It's just an adornment. It's political
00:03:46.480 jewelry. It's a bumper sticker. It's not a national identity, and it's not enough to hold your country
00:03:51.780 together. And that's why ours is coming apart, because people don't have enough in common.
00:03:58.040 So what would happen if it came apart? What would happen if there were a civil war? Well, the first thing
00:04:01.920 to know is it would be incredibly violent because wars are by nature violent, and civil wars especially
00:04:05.680 so. Violent and crazy. And you do hear from time to time people on both sides, particularly on the
00:04:12.560 left, but not only on the left, say, well, I'm just sick of it. I'm just sick of it. You know, I'm ready.
00:04:18.320 I'm ready for the fight. People who say that have never seen what that looks like. Anyone who has seen
00:04:21.960 what that looks like approaches the entire topic with care and respect, because it's incredibly ugly,
00:04:26.700 and its effects are generational. And if you don't believe it, consider our own civil war,
00:04:30.980 which ended 160 years ago in 1865, and we're still fighting it. We're still arguing over the
00:04:38.340 names of Confederate generals, tearing down their statues, renaming military bases, and stereotyping
00:04:43.540 people in the South. That war is still ongoing on some level. It's not a hot war, but it's very
00:04:49.940 much a cold war and has been for 160 years. Go to Spain. Their civil war ended in, what, 1939.
00:04:56.660 They're still arguing about it. They're still passing legislation about it. The wounds left
00:05:02.480 by civil wars do not heal quickly. They last for, I don't know, hundreds of years, and they
00:05:08.960 completely remake the country, usually for the worse. So disunity is easy. Rebuilding into a
00:05:18.180 single country after a civil war is very, very hard, and sometimes it never even works. There
00:05:22.100 are civil wars in effect ongoing on this planet right now for hundreds of years, and they probably
00:05:27.100 will never be resolved, because the people fighting each other within national borders don't have
00:05:31.180 anything in common. That's the truth. So if you want to prevent a civil war, figure out what everybody,
00:05:37.960 or at least the bulk of the people in your nation have in common, and emphasize that. And so what
00:05:42.960 would that be in our case? Hard to know. In fact, at this stage, really the only realistic hope
00:05:49.780 for national unity is spiritual revival is a place where most Americans wake up to realize that God
00:05:57.400 exists and created every single person in the United States of America, and that's what we have
00:06:03.140 in common, our humanity. Not because our common humanity is meaningful by itself, but because
00:06:08.280 our common humanity comes from God and we're created in His image. And only when people truly realize
00:06:13.660 that, well, they hesitate before killing each other. But in the meantime, and we hope that comes soon,
00:06:21.480 but in the meantime, there is a step that the government at all levels, federal, state, and local,
00:06:30.440 can take to restore at least a sense of calm in the midst of rising chaos. And if you can't
00:06:38.220 smell that right now, then you obviously have long COVID because it is redolent. This country is on
00:06:47.440 the brink. And in fact, you saw the normal dummies today on social media taking pictures from Portland,
00:06:51.940 Oregon. Everything is fine here in Portland. They're liars. Or they're intentionally blind to
00:06:57.780 the reality right in front of them, which is the country is degrading. And you can tell by its cities,
00:07:03.440 they are falling apart. There's no country in the world with as many ugly, dangerous, dysfunctional,
00:07:09.380 dirty cities as we have. It's painful to say that as someone who was born and has always lived here
00:07:14.180 and plans to always live here. But that's a fact. And as someone who travels a lot, I can affirm what
00:07:18.240 you already know. Our cities are dying. And when your cities die, your country dies. And a lot of
00:07:24.480 people don't want to believe this because they moved to rural areas and are hoping to just sort of ignore
00:07:27.440 it. I'd be in that category. But it's nevertheless true. When your cities die, your country dies.
00:07:33.440 And our cities are dying the kind of death that can't be permanent. They're dying the death born of
00:07:40.540 chaos where things just get so crazy and people literally die on the street. Also have sex and
00:07:45.640 defecate on the street, but die on the street. And that's intolerable. Chaos is intolerable. People can't
00:07:50.620 handle it. So out of chaos comes what? Democracy? Spontaneous order? No. Imposed order? Dictatorship?
00:07:59.420 Of course. Each and every time. That's what happens out of chaos. People beg for a strong man.
00:08:06.620 There's always someone willing to oblige. And that's exactly what they get.
00:08:10.880 And that's exactly what we're going to get unless some kind of order is restored.
00:08:16.700 Which is another way of saying restoring order is not a step toward totalitarianism. It may be the
00:08:24.100 only way to prevent it. But we need to do it now. Walk through any American city and be honest with
00:08:31.940 yourself. Is this working? It's clearly getting worse. What'll it look like in 10 years? The
00:08:36.980 differences between states are getting more profound. You wouldn't expect that, actually.
00:08:41.660 After the advent of radio and then television, the internet, mass media, the idea was, well,
00:08:47.600 regional differences are going away because all of us are united by the media we consume. And that's
00:08:52.120 no longer true. And in fact, our media are exacerbating the differences or highlighting them
00:08:57.540 anyway. And so a place like South Florida is more different from South California than it's ever been.
00:09:04.600 And extrapolate forward five years, eight years, 10 years. Will it be possible to drive from South
00:09:11.380 Florida to Southern California? Well, of course it will. It's America. Really? Is it possible to drive
00:09:17.840 from Sao Paulo, Brazil to Rio? Not really. Because it's too dangerous. Because it's too chaotic. And
00:09:24.620 Brazil, by the way, is not a third world country. Brazil is a real country about the size of the United
00:09:28.240 States with a highly educated, impressive population, amazing natural resources, a lot going
00:09:34.160 for it. And yet that country, through successive governments, has been unable to restore order to
00:09:42.980 its highways. So that's the rule globally. That's the state of nature globally. And that could very
00:09:49.760 easily happen here. And we've been moving in that direction for decades. We sit, those of us on the
00:09:56.700 East Coast, and look over at the West Coast, my home state of California, and watch its politicians
00:10:01.460 declare boycotts against this or that American state. Or say in public, I'm not going to follow
00:10:06.940 this federal law. The federal government has no dominion here. We all sort of laugh. Oh, they're so
00:10:12.460 crazy. Each one of those actions is a form of insurrection. In fact, every bit as profound as anything
00:10:19.760 that happened in Fort Sumter in 1861, the battle that kicked off the Civil War, the deadliest war in
00:10:26.540 American history, the one from which we're still recovering, those are acts of insurrection.
00:10:33.280 Either you have a federal government with power over the states, or you don't. Either federal laws
00:10:39.360 apply to all 50 states, or they don't. And for decades, some states have opted out of federal law,
00:10:46.580 and the rest of the states have just sort of laughed at them or tried to ignore it.
00:10:49.540 Oh, marijuana is illegal? Well, we're going to have marijuana anyway.
00:10:53.900 Oregon decriminalized fentanyl and meth five years ago. If ever there was a time to send federal
00:11:01.320 troops into Oregon, it was when Oregon did that, thereby killing thousands and thousands and thousands
00:11:07.620 of its citizens and also ignoring federal law. Those are illegal narcotics. We blow up boats full of those
00:11:16.940 things. But the state of Oregon decided unilaterally, well, we're just going to effectively legalize
00:11:23.840 them. And lots of states have done that, and the feds have done nothing. But now, because the issue
00:11:30.420 is immigration, which is a core issue, the federal government is doing something. President Trump
00:11:36.460 has announced that he is sending federal troops to the state of Oregon and to the city of Chicago.
00:11:41.360 He's not yet sent federal troops to Oregon. There's a court fight that's way too complex and
00:11:49.920 not that interesting to explain at the moment, look it up, that has prevented that. But National
00:11:55.860 Guardsmen have arrived, mostly from Texas, in the state of Illinois, in Chicago, to force,
00:12:04.260 the president says, that city to allow ICE, the Immigration Service, federal immigration officers,
00:12:10.420 to do their job, to deport people who are breaking federal law, illegal aliens. And the mayor of
00:12:16.120 Chicago and the governor of Illinois have said multiple times, we do not follow federal immigration
00:12:22.040 law in the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago. So the president is forcing this issue.
00:12:26.940 They're in violation of the law. He says he's working to uphold the law. Here is the response of J.B.
00:12:33.040 Pritzker, who is the longtime, six years now, I think, governor of Chicago, to the president's
00:12:40.780 deployment of National Guards troops to Illinois. Watch.
00:12:44.540 What I know is, in the early days of the Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away
00:12:51.260 people's rights. And what we're seeing now is the very same thing. They've gone into cities now with
00:12:57.540 the military. Think about that. In your lifetime, have you ever seen anything like that? Where the
00:13:03.460 president of the United States is sending military or troops dressed as military, ICE and CBP, in
00:13:09.600 camouflage, with automatic weapons, into our major cities? It's wrong. He's such a buffoon. So
00:13:18.500 demented is the Democratic Party. That guy thinks he's going to be president. Have you ever seen this
00:13:23.040 before us? In American history, has there ever been a single instance of some Nazi in the White
00:13:29.780 House sending troops into a state to uphold federal? It's never happened before. It's never
00:13:37.200 happened before, except it's happened like a million times. And it's been celebrated almost
00:13:41.720 every single time. Beginning at least in September of 1957, three years after the Brown versus Board of
00:13:50.560 Education decision came down from the Supreme Court banning segregation in public schools in the
00:13:56.400 United States. And in the state of Arkansas, in the capital city, Little Rock, Central High School,
00:14:02.940 a high school was not following this Supreme Court decision. And so Dwight David Eisenhower,
00:14:11.580 General Eisenhower, commander of American troops in Europe during World War II, the president of the
00:14:15.240 United States sent the 101st Airborne to Central High School. The 101st Airborne, not like 300 fat
00:14:23.760 guardsmen from San Antonio, but the 101st Airborne with M1s to a high school. And then he left his
00:14:32.560 vacation and he went on television to explain why he did it. And remarkably, thanks to the internet,
00:14:40.480 we have the tape. Here's part of it. In that city, under the leadership of demagogic extremists,
00:14:47.960 disorderly mobs have deliberately prevented the carrying out of proper orders from a federal court.
00:14:55.780 Local authorities have not eliminated that violent opposition. And under the law,
00:15:01.900 I yesterday issued a proclamation calling upon the mob to disperse.
00:15:08.740 Yep, that was General then President Eisenhower, September 1957, sending the 101st Airborne to
00:15:16.340 Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, because the racist governor, Orville Faubus, wouldn't let
00:15:21.800 black students attend a white high school. And every liberal in America applauded. Shoot them!
00:15:28.540 There was one girl in the crowd that day who smirked or scowled at one of the young black ladies being
00:15:36.620 escorted into the school. And she shouldn't have done that. It was cruel, obviously. But it wrecked her
00:15:44.880 life. That picture, which ran the Arkansas Democrat, September of 1957, wrecked her life, actually. She
00:15:50.320 never got out from under that. And that's a measure of how strongly the media, the American establishment,
00:15:57.060 and some of the public were behind the president. Look, it's a Supreme Court order. It's the law of
00:16:02.020 the land. You can't disobey it, or else we have mob rules. Someone's going to rule, okay? It'll either be
00:16:09.120 a dispassionate law that treats everybody equally, or it will be an individual who plays favorites.
00:16:16.200 So your choice really is not between no law and law. That's not a choice. Your choice is between
00:16:25.120 the rule of law or anarchy, which leads to dictatorship. That's your choice. And Eisenhower,
00:16:32.440 in an interesting speech, 13-minute long speech, laid this all out, which is on YouTube. You should
00:16:37.000 check it out. He explained why he did it. It wasn't about simply desegregating a high school in Little
00:16:43.440 Rock. It was about upholding the basis of the American judicial system, which is to say the
00:16:50.240 basis of America itself, which is equal application of the law, fairness under the law. It's a nation
00:16:56.480 of laws, not men. And he did that, and it was roundly applauded, and it worked in some ways.
00:17:05.000 Public education was totally destroyed nationally, but whatever, the rule of law was upheld.
00:17:09.020 Five years later, noting what a popular move this was, apparently, his successor, John F. Kennedy,
00:17:17.760 faced a pretty similar situation at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Mississippi. It was,
00:17:22.380 again, September 1962, and there was a lone black student attempting to enroll. His name was James
00:17:28.880 Meredith. He's still alive. He's 92 years old. He's a total right-winger, by the way, which is
00:17:32.700 interesting. But he was trying to enroll, and the school would not accept his application because he
00:17:38.620 was black. And so President Kennedy also sent the military to Ole Miss. How many did he send?
00:17:46.460 President Trump has sent three to five hundred guardsmen to Chicago, to a city of millions.
00:17:52.840 President Kennedy sent 31,000 U.S. soldiers, U.S. Army soldiers, to a campus of 6,000.
00:18:00.480 Yeah, that's more than five armed soldiers per student. 31,000 American troops descended on the
00:18:12.520 campus of Ole Miss in Oxford, Mississippi at the very end of September, early October 1962,
00:18:16.800 and they shut it down. And they camped on the quad in tents, and they put tanks on the football field,
00:18:22.440 and they put machine gun emplacements on the quad. A couple people were shot to death.
00:18:26.860 And President Kennedy made a bit overkill, in fact, disgusting overkill, in fact, fascist
00:18:35.780 overkill. But the point is, he was applauded for it because there was a federal law emanating from
00:18:42.760 a Supreme Court decision, and he was upholding it in the same way that President Trump is currently
00:18:48.460 attempting to, in a much less vigorous way, uphold federal immigration law passed by the United
00:18:54.660 States Congress, which is core to the country. Who lives here is the main question in any country.
00:19:00.320 Who lives there? What is the country? It's the people who live there.
00:19:04.900 And immigration law is the way that you regulate that. So if you don't control that,
00:19:09.580 you're literally not a country. So that's not an optional law. That is a core law.
00:19:14.600 And in the case of Chicago and Portland, but particularly Chicago, shameful. Thousands,
00:19:24.880 thousands of people are shot in Chicago every year. Whole parts of Chicago you can't go to. Not
00:19:31.180 if you're like me, you can't. It's so racist and violent, you literally can't walk through parts
00:19:37.260 of a city that you pay for as a federal taxpayer, as an American. You can't walk through it.
00:19:41.820 But several years ago, you'll remember there was a huge debate in Europe. Are there no go zones in
00:19:47.860 Paris? Are there parts where, you know, native-born Parisians can't go? Where they're not welcome?
00:19:53.380 Oh, that's not true. They said that's not true. But of course, whether or not, of course, it was true.
00:19:59.100 But what's even more true is that that's the state of play in the United States and has been
00:20:03.620 for generations. Huge parts of a city, huge, you could walk all day through parts of a city that you
00:20:11.180 actually can't walk through because they're too dangerous for you. And Chicago is particularly,
00:20:19.020 particularly disgraceful in its decline. And you have to guess about that. I'm going to show you
00:20:24.840 video in just a second, but you don't have to guess. Look at the numbers. Look at the outflow from
00:20:28.260 Chicago. Are people who were born in Chicago staying in Chicago? No, they're fleeing. Go to
00:20:33.080 Southwest Florida. Go to dinner in Naples some night and ask, anyone here from Illinois? It's half the
00:20:38.280 room. And they're grateful to be gone. That's how dystopian it is on every level, economically,
00:20:44.360 primarily. But even on a more basic level, it's just too dangerous. Oh, the freedoms we're losing.
00:20:50.300 Really? What about my freedom to walk to the liquor store at midnight without getting killed?
00:20:54.640 How about my freedom to stop at a red light without getting shot? That's totally real.
00:20:59.320 It's not fake. It's not racist to say that. The mayor of Chicago is an open racist. So irony of
00:21:08.200 ironies, here you have a president sending troops facing down a recalcitrant racist local official.
00:21:17.560 That does sound like 1962, doesn't it? Except this time, the president in question is not getting
00:21:23.160 accolades from the New York Times. He's being called a dictator! A dictator! But just to set the table
00:21:30.320 here, to lay down the framework for what we're talking about. Chicago, the city. What does
00:21:36.240 Chicago look like? This question is very much like everything else you talk about. Trans surgeries,
00:21:42.760 abortion, whatever the topic is, the people promoting it never want you to see what it actually
00:21:48.100 looks like. Just an idea. It's a right. It's a theoretical concept. No one wants to see
00:21:54.020 what it looks like to cut someone's penis off and create a vagina with a knife. That's what
00:21:58.240 it actually is. Our rights in Chicago, what does Chicago actually look like? Well, here's
00:22:04.060 what it looks like.
00:22:05.980 Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here!
00:22:29.200 Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here! Stop doing that! You got to
00:22:31.820 you soon though. .
00:22:34.120 Deathabs.
00:22:41.800 собирays!
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00:22:55.380 so what's interesting about those videos is who's participating in the rioting in the violence
00:23:10.660 there there's the normal assortment of unhappy white young people make up the bulk of antifa
00:23:16.820 make up the bulk of the democratic party party's activist wing all the little dsa kids you know
00:23:22.480 the children of orthodontists from great deck who are you know reliving the glories of the 60s or
00:23:26.780 whatever the weird little polyamorous nihilist freaks who don't see any future for themselves
00:23:32.960 economically so just burn it down i mean very very familiar to anyone who's watched this stuff over
00:23:38.120 the years a repulsive group a dangerous group a sad group by the way you shouldn't have a lot of young
00:23:44.960 people like that in a functioning country they should be looking forward to a brighter future
00:23:49.260 getting married having kids doing something useful building something not just destroying
00:23:52.900 but they're not so that is recognizable we've seen a lot of that over the past 10 years and we're
00:24:00.060 going to see a lot more going forward unfortunately unless someone gets a hold of us now but what was
00:24:06.960 new in that video were what looked like immigrants latin american immigrants and if we're going to be
00:24:15.600 totally honest about latin american immigration most of our immigration up until pretty recently
00:24:19.800 now it seems all south asian but up until very recently most of our immigration overwhelming
00:24:24.180 majority of our immigration to this country was from mexico and the central american country some
00:24:27.960 south america but mostly mexico salvador honduras nicaragua the the usual latin america close by
00:24:37.100 countries in our hemisphere people taking trains and walking to get here and the truth is all illegal
00:24:43.060 immigration is bad rapid mass migration is always bad because it makes countries crazy and chaotic
00:24:48.720 but it's also true that our latin american immigrants are i mean probably met a million of them good
00:24:55.940 people super hard workers and it's true that they're doing jobs that you know you probably did as a kid
00:25:03.760 and your kids probably aren't doing those jobs because latin americans are doing them i'm saying this
00:25:07.500 if you're white so i think most people who are very opposed to illegal immigration and very opposed
00:25:14.700 to mass migration at this point very opposed to any immigration which would include me definitely
00:25:18.580 are not mad at latin american immigrants because they're mostly nice people they're christian people
00:25:23.480 and they work hard and there's some drunk driving but in general they kind of play by the rules most of them
00:25:30.340 the idea that people would get here as immigrants and immediately join a violent street protest
00:25:36.040 you know we haven't seen that since about 1905 we haven't that's shocking that's scary if that's
00:25:43.600 true and it's scary for the following reason the volume the scale how many immigrants did we get
00:25:49.540 during the biden years well no one knows of course people pretend they know but they don't know
00:25:53.160 millions and millions and millions and millions and they're entering a job market that is being
00:25:58.280 destroyed by technology by ai quantum computing so there was no labor market need for these immigrants
00:26:07.400 it's not like america was just dying for more people to do jobs because we have fewer jobs and if you
00:26:12.840 don't believe if you got college-aged kids ask them if any of their friends are employed in october
00:26:17.420 after graduating no they're not because there are no jobs so unemployment is going up everyone lies
00:26:22.100 about it but it is and we just imported i don't know 10 maybe 10 million new people what are they
00:26:28.160 doing here what was the purpose of that how are they living well they're living of course on the
00:26:34.500 government but why why did they get here why did biden bring them in that's a question that no one's
00:26:45.520 answered and all of a sudden you look at these videos and you see people who are clearly just off the
00:26:50.700 boat or the train and you start to wonder like maybe we were actually invaded maybe our ruling class
00:27:02.400 imported an army and pretended they were migrants looking for a better life
00:27:07.280 and maybe we're about to find out what that means this is really scary because we don't know who lives
00:27:16.220 in this country we don't know the total population of the country and again like the inflation rate like
00:27:20.540 the unemployment rate is something that our leaders lie about constantly but they don't know they don't
00:27:26.280 know they don't know how many people live here and they don't know who they are of course they have
00:27:30.000 biometrics they could find out but they haven't why is that so if all of a sudden these migrants are
00:27:35.720 participating in street protests where they're throwing bricks through the windows of passing cars
00:27:39.520 picking up orange cones and throwing them at minivans you could see this getting completely out of
00:27:45.160 control and it's a reminder of something that is very often true which is civil wars become race wars
00:27:53.020 that is the truth it's true globally civil it was true in latin america lots of the wars in latin
00:27:59.820 america were really between the europeans and the indigenous between the indians and the spanish
00:28:05.320 descendants that's true it's true in el salvador it's true across latin america
00:28:09.760 that could happen here somebody needs to get this under control before it does because chaos
00:28:17.740 breeds chaos it metastasizes that's true in your home and it's true in your nation so getting this
00:28:24.080 stuff under control now before it becomes uncontrollable before it becomes impossible to drive
00:28:29.940 to san diego from miami is absolutely essential and the second thing that would be nice along the
00:28:39.540 way is to stop the degradation of the united states the true degradation now portland oregon
00:28:45.220 is one of the prettiest cities in the world by the way now it's a byword for sadness and death
00:28:52.800 drug use and the homeless but for a very long time portland was considered one of the prettiest places
00:28:59.020 ever a kind of northern san francisco really a really pretty place charming place nice place nice people
00:29:03.960 and the past 20 years it's become thanks again to the influence of a very specific class
00:29:09.280 professional class decadent whites it has become a hellscape it's true under the influence of secular
00:29:20.540 whites npr listening liberals who do not get the credit they deserve for their sinister behavior
00:29:28.600 their death worship it has become the kind of place where no normal person would want to go
00:29:33.660 and it's sad because it is fundamentally so great here's a montage of what portland looks like i am
00:29:39.900 smack dab in the middle of a portland green space everywhere you look trash paraphernalia rotting food
00:29:50.880 and even dead animals this is the reality to the streets this is a symptomatic homeless teenager on the
00:29:56.300 streets on meth for what uh no i don't have clear this is a symptomatic homeless man who's been talking to himself for about two hours downtown portland
00:30:11.300 homeless man behind me has been flashing people the last half hour
00:30:19.560 behind me is a senior citizen smoking meth he's about 72 years old
00:30:26.560 homeless man behind me without a shirt just tried to break that window
00:30:31.280 so nobody is dying in this exact moment but this right here is the deadliest block in portland
00:30:36.500 and where i've seen about 20 people die in the last year behind me is a homeless woman injecting heroin
00:30:43.320 into her foot
00:30:45.760 knotted out in front of a business impossible to get in the front door there's a good 15 people on this block
00:30:53.440 about 12 are actively smoking fentanyl two people live indoors but come here for the fentanyl
00:30:59.600 one person didn't appear to be using just kind of hanging out but overall
00:31:03.080 good 95 are actively using drugs on this block in portland
00:31:06.800 all native-born whites of course a 72 year old smoking meth a 72 year old smoking meth on the street
00:31:15.760 who would tolerate that a cruel person a truly cruel and evil person would tolerate that that's not freedom
00:31:22.360 that's bondage that's murder no normal country would tolerate that for one moment
00:31:29.860 and in real countries they don't tolerate that in a downtown
00:31:34.200 they don't do that only in the west do they do that
00:31:40.180 if we keep this up we will get
00:31:44.400 mussolini at least because it's so
00:31:48.440 unnatural it is so contrary to the laws of nature
00:31:52.960 it is so prima facie repulsive and mean to allow this that it cannot continue
00:32:00.220 and the fact that it has been allowed to continue tells you everything about the people in charge
00:32:05.620 they're the worst
00:32:06.540 and what about the citizens it's not just the leaders
00:32:09.240 it's the people who live there
00:32:10.920 a normal person would say absolutely not
00:32:13.720 I live as my city
00:32:14.840 I work here my kids go to school here
00:32:17.420 I was born here
00:32:18.220 you may not do that
00:32:19.560 we're not going to allow 72 year olds to smoke meth on the street
00:32:23.140 what is wrong with you
00:32:24.580 they wouldn't cede the moral high ground to some creep from another city
00:32:30.080 all the leaders of these cities are not from those cities
00:32:32.180 they just show up because they feel a power vacuum
00:32:34.780 they graduate from Wesleyan or Bowdoin
00:32:37.560 after you know running for student body president
00:32:40.620 just like Mom Donnie
00:32:42.060 and they're like oh chaos
00:32:44.020 I think there's opportunity for me
00:32:46.220 that's exactly the profile
00:32:48.820 and all the little
00:32:50.220 all the little NGO workers
00:32:53.280 who are passing out crack pipes and needles
00:32:55.580 and tents to the homeless
00:32:56.900 all of which exacerbates the problems
00:32:59.460 and kills people
00:33:00.720 none of those people are from any of these cities either
00:33:03.120 they're all from away
00:33:04.360 they're all poverty pimps
00:33:06.080 who've shown up to take advantage of human suffering
00:33:09.220 they're the lowest
00:33:10.500 posing as the most decent
00:33:12.700 they're not Clara Barton
00:33:14.660 they're like Caligula
00:33:17.000 they're cruel
00:33:19.340 heartless people
00:33:20.880 who would allow this
00:33:21.820 and the cruelest and most heartless of all
00:33:24.680 are the generation whose children
00:33:28.320 are on the street
00:33:29.480 smoking meth
00:33:30.840 they're called the boomers
00:33:33.780 the boomers
00:33:35.480 they're not all bad
00:33:37.160 not every boomer is terrible
00:33:38.400 but if you had to identify
00:33:40.060 one generation
00:33:41.300 responsible for the decline
00:33:42.820 and possible destruction
00:33:43.700 of the United States of America
00:33:44.580 it would be that one
00:33:45.260 their fathers returned
00:33:47.340 from liberating Europe and Asia
00:33:48.900 and they bequeathed us this
00:33:52.100 this land is my land
00:33:55.000 from California
00:33:57.220 to New York Island
00:34:00.280 from the Rafford Forest
00:34:03.420 to the Gulf Stream waters
00:34:06.680 this land was made for you and me
00:34:11.260 I can't even play the mandolin
00:34:14.020 mediocre in addition to everything else
00:34:16.460 a little Ukraine flag
00:34:17.500 cliche after cliche
00:34:19.440 after cliche
00:34:20.380 not a deep thought
00:34:21.380 no self-reflection at all
00:34:23.480 just self-involvement
00:34:24.480 that's that generation
00:34:26.240 and if you were there
00:34:27.760 you would ask them
00:34:28.620 you wouldn't ask them about ice
00:34:29.740 or immigrants
00:34:30.540 you would ask them about
00:34:32.640 the state of their city
00:34:33.480 before the immigrants
00:34:34.480 even got there
00:34:35.220 like why did you allow
00:34:37.080 elderly men to smoke meth
00:34:39.320 on the street
00:34:40.060 people to die
00:34:41.800 on your sidewalks
00:34:42.880 they had a dysentery outbreak
00:34:44.840 in Portland Oregon
00:34:46.000 last year
00:34:47.260 because the sanitation
00:34:49.000 the so-called homeless camps
00:34:50.600 was so bad
00:34:51.240 how could you allow that
00:34:52.500 did you notice it
00:34:53.940 you said you were compassionate
00:34:55.960 you care about the people
00:34:56.940 of Kiev
00:34:57.640 did you notice
00:34:59.120 the people in downtown Portland
00:35:00.740 were dying on the street
00:35:01.900 you monster
00:35:03.500 they're monsters
00:35:04.660 that level of neglect
00:35:07.060 is monstrous
00:35:08.500 and the key mistake
00:35:10.640 that normal people make
00:35:11.680 is ceding the moral high ground
00:35:13.080 to people like that
00:35:13.980 who disguise their hate
00:35:16.580 and indifference
00:35:17.260 to their fellow human beings
00:35:18.560 with the language of compassion
00:35:19.740 it's a lie
00:35:20.440 and you know it's a lie
00:35:22.420 because look at the city
00:35:23.300 they made
00:35:23.780 that needs to be cleaned up
00:35:26.640 immediately
00:35:27.500 people living on the street
00:35:29.720 shitting on the street
00:35:30.860 causing dysentery outbreaks
00:35:32.280 smoking meth on the sidewalk
00:35:33.620 having sex in ATM vestibules
00:35:35.180 these are not manifestations
00:35:37.140 of freedom
00:35:37.800 these are signs
00:35:39.040 of terminal decline
00:35:40.380 and they are very serious
00:35:42.340 they're most serious
00:35:43.080 this is stage four
00:35:43.920 you have to fix that
00:35:45.720 it's not complicated
00:35:48.220 you cannot allow that
00:35:50.920 because if you do
00:35:52.520 you send a very clear message
00:35:53.900 to your own citizens
00:35:55.000 which is
00:35:55.360 I don't care about you
00:35:56.460 I don't care whether you live or die
00:35:58.060 whether you degrade yourself
00:35:59.680 whether you live like an animal
00:36:02.100 if you let your German shepherd
00:36:04.660 live like that
00:36:05.400 you would be arrested
00:36:06.320 but in Portland, Oregon
00:36:08.300 it's totally fine
00:36:09.460 to let your fellow citizen
00:36:10.500 live like that
00:36:11.360 if there was ever a reason
00:36:13.400 to send federal troops
00:36:14.380 into a city
00:36:15.040 it's 72 year old
00:36:16.340 smoking meth on the sidewalk
00:36:17.640 we're shutting this down
00:36:18.780 we won't have this
00:36:20.900 because that person
00:36:23.280 smoking meth
00:36:23.940 is a child of God
00:36:24.980 created by God
00:36:25.940 and you're killing him
00:36:28.160 and we're not going to allow it
00:36:29.620 someone's going to do that
00:36:31.820 that will happen
00:36:33.580 and the opportunity
00:36:36.060 we have right now
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00:40:18.720 Nick Sorter
00:40:20.320 has been in Portland, Oregon
00:40:22.280 a lot recently
00:40:22.980 he just got assaulted there
00:40:23.800 he's an independent journalist
00:40:24.660 he has spent the day
00:40:25.940 in Washington, D.C.
00:40:26.920 at the White House
00:40:27.800 at a conference
00:40:28.880 about Antifa
00:40:29.760 and I think he's
00:40:30.560 joining us now
00:40:31.360 Nick Sorter
00:40:31.720 are you there?
00:40:32.120 I'm here Tucker
00:40:34.920 thank you for having me sir
00:40:35.940 thanks so much
00:40:36.800 for doing this
00:40:37.340 so you just came
00:40:38.280 from Portland
00:40:38.740 how would you assess it?
00:40:40.020 what's it like?
00:40:42.000 it doesn't feel
00:40:42.980 like America
00:40:43.580 Tucker
00:40:44.000 at this point
00:40:44.660 it feels like
00:40:45.520 and I know
00:40:46.040 it's a cliche
00:40:46.600 but it feels
00:40:47.500 like a third world country
00:40:49.140 I mean you have
00:40:50.020 police
00:40:51.120 that have been
00:40:52.160 totally infiltrated
00:40:53.800 by a
00:40:55.040 leftist
00:40:55.960 militant group
00:40:57.080 and you know
00:40:58.480 right now
00:40:58.940 you can see
00:40:59.300 police cars
00:40:59.840 behind me
00:41:00.520 these police cars
00:41:01.880 would protect me
00:41:03.060 if somebody were to
00:41:03.840 come up and assault me
00:41:04.660 that's not how it works
00:41:05.500 in Portland
00:41:06.000 the Portland police
00:41:08.280 arrested me
00:41:09.000 instead when I got assaulted
00:41:10.320 it's a different world
00:41:11.720 out there
00:41:12.360 and not even just
00:41:13.860 around the ICE facility
00:41:14.880 like your monologue
00:41:15.780 was spot on here
00:41:17.440 Tucker
00:41:17.720 because you go downtown
00:41:18.680 and it looks like
00:41:20.440 it's post-apocalyptic
00:41:22.560 almost
00:41:23.380 the graffiti everywhere
00:41:25.040 the vandalism
00:41:26.140 the boarded up windows
00:41:27.780 there are no people
00:41:29.520 in downtown Portland
00:41:30.520 it's quiet as hell
00:41:32.040 there's nobody
00:41:32.840 walking around
00:41:33.540 people don't go there
00:41:34.480 for leisure anymore
00:41:35.480 or for vacation
00:41:36.300 it's because they're afraid
00:41:38.100 and they should be afraid
00:41:39.500 the chance of you
00:41:40.980 getting beat up
00:41:41.900 or stuck with a needle
00:41:43.380 or robbed in the street
00:41:44.620 is through the roof
00:41:46.080 because police there
00:41:46.920 aren't actually allowed
00:41:47.800 to be police
00:41:48.500 so
00:41:48.800 so what happened to you
00:41:51.260 if you don't mind explaining
00:41:52.260 you were arrested
00:41:53.120 for being assaulted
00:41:54.560 is that a crime
00:41:55.480 is it a crime in Portland
00:41:56.340 to be assaulted
00:41:56.980 it's a crime in Portland
00:41:59.620 to be a conservative
00:42:01.320 Tucker
00:42:02.360 I mean as weird
00:42:03.460 as that sounds
00:42:04.180 the video evidence
00:42:05.620 and even the DA
00:42:06.280 has come out
00:42:07.400 and said
00:42:07.880 because the DA
00:42:08.580 refused to
00:42:10.040 to go through
00:42:11.400 with the case
00:42:11.920 so they ended up
00:42:12.600 dismissing all of the
00:42:13.500 charges
00:42:14.320 the video
00:42:15.560 very clearly
00:42:16.380 shows me
00:42:18.000 telling the person
00:42:19.200 to back away
00:42:19.960 as I'm walking
00:42:20.620 down the sidewalk
00:42:21.520 and then the Antifa thugs
00:42:23.420 you know
00:42:23.760 this stuff is coordinated
00:42:24.560 right
00:42:24.940 they come up with
00:42:25.720 an umbrella
00:42:26.560 to try to block
00:42:27.720 other cameras
00:42:28.380 and as soon as
00:42:29.020 when they do that
00:42:29.820 they're gonna
00:42:30.420 they're gonna commit
00:42:31.020 some sort of act
00:42:31.740 of violence
00:42:32.160 and that's exactly
00:42:32.880 what they did
00:42:33.360 this time
00:42:33.880 one of their thugs
00:42:35.320 decided to swing on me
00:42:36.600 and hit me in the face
00:42:38.040 before breaking my camera
00:42:39.980 and then throwing me
00:42:40.920 in a hole
00:42:41.360 was that person arrested
00:42:42.780 absolutely not
00:42:44.020 was I
00:42:44.680 we know the story now
00:42:46.620 what do they charge you with
00:42:49.320 they charge me with
00:42:52.620 disorderly conduct
00:42:53.840 two
00:42:54.460 which is
00:42:55.960 really weird
00:42:57.080 considering
00:42:57.740 the amount
00:42:58.780 of screaming
00:42:59.520 and
00:43:00.480 vandalism
00:43:01.900 and assaults
00:43:02.580 on officers
00:43:03.300 and
00:43:04.080 explosions
00:43:05.480 of fireworks
00:43:06.300 and such
00:43:06.720 that happened
00:43:07.200 in the middle
00:43:07.600 of the night
00:43:08.100 in the streets
00:43:09.100 out there
00:43:09.660 you know
00:43:09.940 they
00:43:10.100 butt break
00:43:11.420 into cars
00:43:11.920 if you're not
00:43:12.820 a member of Antifa
00:43:13.760 and you're trying
00:43:14.380 to drive down
00:43:14.760 that street
00:43:15.260 they're going
00:43:15.920 to hit your car
00:43:16.520 they're gonna
00:43:16.740 break your windows
00:43:17.620 there's plenty
00:43:18.260 of videos
00:43:18.600 of that happening
00:43:19.240 and none
00:43:19.920 of that
00:43:20.220 is apparently
00:43:20.680 disorderly
00:43:21.480 they call
00:43:22.520 what I did
00:43:23.100 disorderly
00:43:23.720 because
00:43:24.180 it's a
00:43:25.140 what I'm doing
00:43:26.060 is a threat
00:43:26.760 to the order
00:43:27.420 in their city
00:43:28.220 which is a
00:43:29.460 basically
00:43:30.600 leftist
00:43:31.840 authoritarianism
00:43:32.920 so you
00:43:34.500 got your face
00:43:36.160 in the way
00:43:36.840 of an Antifa
00:43:37.640 fist
00:43:38.440 and so you're
00:43:39.700 the criminal
00:43:40.100 what did the cop
00:43:41.040 apologize
00:43:41.600 as he was
00:43:42.180 arresting you
00:43:42.740 like what
00:43:43.200 I mean
00:43:43.900 it's hard even
00:43:44.800 to imagine
00:43:45.260 the scene
00:43:45.660 you're describing
00:43:46.220 yeah
00:43:48.160 and so
00:43:48.840 I actually
00:43:50.700 went to this
00:43:51.640 group of police
00:43:52.320 there are about
00:43:52.620 12 of them
00:43:53.260 they're way down
00:43:53.800 the road
00:43:54.100 they don't
00:43:54.520 they don't
00:43:54.900 do anything
00:43:55.420 ever
00:43:55.780 obviously
00:43:58.020 that situation
00:43:58.820 changed a little
00:43:59.560 bit as time
00:44:00.240 went on
00:44:00.620 but I went
00:44:01.000 over there
00:44:01.320 to seek
00:44:01.880 refuge
00:44:02.380 with them
00:44:03.460 to hopefully
00:44:05.120 like I wasn't
00:44:05.760 even reporting
00:44:06.420 anybody
00:44:06.720 I was just
00:44:07.260 standing back
00:44:08.440 hope like
00:44:09.320 hoping that
00:44:10.160 the situation
00:44:10.840 would
00:44:11.380 you know
00:44:13.140 get like
00:44:13.720 ease up
00:44:14.240 a little bit
00:44:15.060 and I'm
00:44:16.260 standing there
00:44:16.800 joking with
00:44:17.480 a bunch of
00:44:17.900 them for
00:44:18.400 seven to
00:44:19.200 eight minutes
00:44:19.640 or so
00:44:20.080 and then
00:44:20.740 a sergeant
00:44:21.380 rolls up
00:44:21.840 on a bike
00:44:22.300 and says
00:44:22.680 cuff him
00:44:23.120 and that's
00:44:24.880 exactly
00:44:25.140 and they're
00:44:25.420 like that
00:44:25.840 guy
00:44:26.060 this guy
00:44:27.040 right here
00:44:27.400 cuff him
00:44:27.880 and he's
00:44:28.580 like yeah
00:44:28.820 cuff him
00:44:29.140 he's under
00:44:29.480 arrest
00:44:29.860 and they
00:44:30.840 had no
00:44:31.260 idea why
00:44:31.960 they couldn't
00:44:32.700 explain to
00:44:33.320 me for
00:44:33.900 over 45
00:44:34.580 minutes
00:44:35.100 Tucker
00:44:35.360 what my
00:44:35.780 charges
00:44:36.120 actually
00:44:36.560 were
00:44:36.980 they
00:44:37.620 started
00:44:38.320 driving to
00:44:38.900 the jail
00:44:39.180 very slowly
00:44:40.120 hoping that
00:44:41.180 somebody would
00:44:41.860 fill them in
00:44:42.380 on why I was
00:44:42.960 actually being
00:44:43.500 arrested
00:44:43.900 and so
00:44:44.880 they had to
00:44:45.220 pull over
00:44:45.640 on the side
00:44:46.020 of the road
00:44:46.360 near the
00:44:46.700 jail
00:44:46.960 and just
00:44:47.260 sort of
00:44:47.480 twiddle
00:44:47.740 their thumbs
00:44:48.420 waiting on
00:44:49.660 a call
00:44:49.900 from a
00:44:50.180 lieutenant
00:44:50.520 and as
00:44:51.880 soon as
00:44:52.080 they got
00:44:52.280 that call
00:44:52.580 from the
00:44:52.840 lieutenant
00:44:53.160 that lieutenant
00:44:53.900 instructed the
00:44:54.560 officer to
00:44:55.060 get out
00:44:55.540 of the
00:44:55.780 vehicle
00:44:56.160 presumably
00:44:57.040 so I
00:44:57.580 couldn't
00:44:57.860 hear
00:44:58.160 what they
00:44:58.920 were talking
00:44:59.320 about on
00:44:59.680 the phone
00:45:00.080 something
00:45:00.920 stinks over
00:45:01.740 there
00:45:01.960 I mean
00:45:02.220 there were
00:45:02.980 three people
00:45:04.100 all night long
00:45:05.360 in Portland
00:45:05.760 that came
00:45:06.220 through that
00:45:06.500 jail
00:45:06.720 it's the
00:45:07.000 only jail
00:45:07.580 in Portland
00:45:08.000 and three
00:45:09.080 people
00:45:09.500 including myself
00:45:10.360 ended up
00:45:10.780 coming through
00:45:11.140 there that
00:45:11.540 night
00:45:11.800 it's wild
00:45:12.840 and there
00:45:13.340 were riots
00:45:13.980 underway
00:45:14.880 oh yeah
00:45:17.180 yeah that
00:45:17.880 same night
00:45:18.420 my car
00:45:18.820 was vandalized
00:45:19.780 there were
00:45:20.540 fires in the
00:45:21.560 street
00:45:21.840 they do that
00:45:22.320 every single
00:45:22.860 night
00:45:23.200 and that
00:45:24.400 nobody is
00:45:25.220 ever arrested
00:45:25.860 for that
00:45:26.360 it's so
00:45:29.560 far from
00:45:30.980 the America
00:45:31.560 that you
00:45:31.940 imagine
00:45:32.340 when you
00:45:32.640 think of
00:45:33.020 America
00:45:33.360 I mean
00:45:33.580 this is
00:45:33.900 kind of
00:45:34.220 my point
00:45:34.760 so for
00:45:35.720 example
00:45:36.120 like a
00:45:37.060 place
00:45:37.360 Palm Beach
00:45:38.760 or Miami
00:45:39.440 or Jacksonville
00:45:41.100 even Tampa
00:45:42.440 you know
00:45:43.400 big cities
00:45:43.780 in Florida
00:45:44.220 that's the
00:45:46.480 opposite of
00:45:47.060 what would
00:45:47.340 happen
00:45:47.760 and so you
00:45:48.660 wonder like
00:45:49.300 how can
00:45:49.960 Portland Oregon
00:45:51.180 share a flag
00:45:52.920 with Miami
00:45:53.880 Florida
00:45:54.320 yeah it's
00:45:57.780 it's a great
00:45:58.540 question and
00:45:59.260 as you
00:45:59.880 as you
00:46:00.680 very well
00:46:01.420 said this
00:46:01.980 stuff doesn't
00:46:02.460 happen in
00:46:03.100 Florida
00:46:03.420 it never
00:46:03.940 people aren't
00:46:04.700 going to
00:46:05.160 block the
00:46:05.600 roads in
00:46:06.040 Florida
00:46:06.380 right
00:46:06.900 because what
00:46:07.400 happens
00:46:07.860 you're going
00:46:08.400 to get run
00:46:08.820 over
00:46:09.100 because you
00:46:09.740 know
00:46:09.860 these people
00:46:10.960 will take
00:46:11.660 residents that
00:46:12.440 live right near
00:46:12.960 the ice facility
00:46:13.700 and box their
00:46:14.980 cars in with
00:46:15.900 people
00:46:16.240 they'll surround
00:46:16.960 them and
00:46:17.780 terrorize them
00:46:18.880 but there's
00:46:20.300 nothing that the
00:46:20.740 driver can do
00:46:21.360 about it if
00:46:21.780 they defend
00:46:22.180 themselves
00:46:22.500 they go to
00:46:23.180 jail
00:46:23.420 if they try
00:46:24.160 to drive
00:46:24.540 through the
00:46:24.860 crowd to
00:46:25.580 save their
00:46:26.080 family from
00:46:26.640 these thugs
00:46:27.420 these violent
00:46:28.600 mentally ill
00:46:29.580 thugs they
00:46:30.660 are the ones
00:46:31.220 that get
00:46:31.640 arrested not
00:46:32.360 the thugs
00:46:32.780 that held
00:46:33.100 them hostage
00:46:33.600 so what does
00:46:34.600 that tell you
00:46:35.000 it tells you
00:46:35.480 that if the
00:46:36.420 rioters don't
00:46:38.020 get arrested
00:46:38.560 but anyone who
00:46:39.560 resists the
00:46:40.140 rioters get
00:46:40.860 arrested that
00:46:42.040 tells you that
00:46:42.560 the rioters are
00:46:43.560 in effect working
00:46:44.540 for the state
00:46:45.380 they're the
00:46:46.080 militia then
00:46:47.120 right I mean
00:46:48.920 what else would
00:46:49.300 that tell you
00:46:49.720 they're on the
00:46:50.340 same side as
00:46:51.020 the state
00:46:51.300 essentially
00:46:51.660 yeah of course
00:46:54.280 and then people
00:46:54.820 ask me all the
00:46:55.360 time it's like
00:46:55.820 okay well are
00:46:56.460 these what are
00:46:57.860 the what are
00:46:58.160 these Antifa
00:46:58.900 folks thoughts
00:47:00.280 on the Portland
00:47:00.860 police and it's
00:47:02.200 there's no ill
00:47:03.420 will between the
00:47:04.220 two groups at
00:47:04.840 all because they're
00:47:05.560 practically working
00:47:06.360 together at this
00:47:07.220 point yeah just
00:47:08.760 the other day there
00:47:09.500 was a business
00:47:10.340 owner or a manager
00:47:11.200 of a restaurant
00:47:11.820 that's at the end
00:47:13.220 of the street where
00:47:13.980 the ice facility is
00:47:14.820 on there's only one
00:47:15.520 street to get to
00:47:16.700 that to that
00:47:17.800 business and he
00:47:19.620 walks up and
00:47:20.620 begging and
00:47:21.440 pleading with the
00:47:22.140 officers there to
00:47:23.040 open the road not
00:47:24.920 because the police
00:47:25.700 had closed the
00:47:26.300 road but because
00:47:27.120 the Portland police
00:47:29.120 had relegated
00:47:30.240 traffic control
00:47:31.040 duties to these
00:47:32.360 Antifa militants
00:47:33.600 that were not
00:47:34.600 letting through
00:47:35.460 employees of the
00:47:37.000 restaurant or
00:47:37.660 patrons of the
00:47:38.460 restaurant only
00:47:39.160 letting through
00:47:39.720 their own people
00:47:40.560 and Portland police
00:47:41.620 were letting it
00:47:42.160 happen Portland
00:47:43.040 police ended up
00:47:43.760 I have it all on
00:47:44.520 video I posted it
00:47:45.300 all on my ex
00:47:45.860 Portland police
00:47:47.280 walk up to
00:47:47.900 these militants
00:47:50.060 that are controlling
00:47:51.120 traffic and say
00:47:52.140 hey we need you to
00:47:53.340 we need you to
00:47:53.940 open up the road
00:47:54.560 would you mind
00:47:55.020 opening the road
00:47:55.660 so that people can
00:47:56.300 get to the spaghetti
00:47:56.980 factory and they
00:47:58.660 said no and so
00:47:59.780 the road just never
00:48:00.440 opened and police
00:48:01.080 just walked away
00:48:01.860 I mean I that's
00:48:03.900 how deep this rot
00:48:04.860 runs like who is
00:48:05.700 giving these officers
00:48:06.740 orders to stand
00:48:08.200 down and defer to
00:48:09.440 Antifa so you've
00:48:11.340 just changed my mind
00:48:12.020 on this completely
00:48:12.680 I mean so I went
00:48:14.720 into this thinking
00:48:15.280 well the problem
00:48:16.180 is these groups
00:48:17.080 Antifa and others
00:48:18.140 whatever Antifa is
00:48:19.180 no one's even
00:48:19.660 really ever defined
00:48:20.460 it that I can
00:48:21.420 tell but these
00:48:23.360 you know these
00:48:24.000 groups of radicals
00:48:25.280 angry about something
00:48:26.140 committing violence
00:48:26.860 against people but
00:48:27.640 it sounds like the
00:48:29.660 DOJ needs to come
00:48:31.200 in and take control
00:48:31.860 of the Portland
00:48:32.260 police department on
00:48:33.740 on civil rights
00:48:34.660 grounds I know
00:48:35.040 they're very busy
00:48:35.760 policing anti-semitism
00:48:37.080 on Ivy League
00:48:38.420 campuses it's kind
00:48:39.540 of critical problem
00:48:40.180 in America but if
00:48:41.460 a police department
00:48:42.320 is indistinguishable
00:48:44.720 from Antifa that
00:48:46.120 might even be a
00:48:46.840 bigger problem and
00:48:47.780 maybe they should
00:48:48.260 take it over
00:48:48.840 tomorrow why
00:48:50.000 wouldn't they
00:48:50.540 yeah that's
00:48:53.080 something that I
00:48:53.520 should probably
00:48:54.040 I'd like to talk
00:48:55.240 to Attorney General
00:48:56.360 Pam Bondi about
00:48:57.120 she's been very
00:48:57.720 responsive to this
00:48:58.860 entire situation
00:48:59.500 she put Harmeet
00:49:00.160 Dillon on it
00:49:01.180 they've launched
00:49:01.840 an investigation
00:49:03.240 into the
00:49:05.220 into the practices
00:49:06.540 of the Portland
00:49:07.120 Police Department
00:49:07.880 and Tucker we
00:49:09.080 we actually put in
00:49:11.120 this demand for
00:49:11.840 discovery after
00:49:13.160 my arrest and
00:49:15.100 we were demanding
00:49:16.280 all communications
00:49:17.280 between Rose City
00:49:19.280 Antifa which is an
00:49:20.640 organized group that
00:49:21.580 isn't an entity
00:49:23.180 that exists and
00:49:25.120 the Portland Police
00:49:26.080 Department and
00:49:27.620 literally within an
00:49:29.100 hour of us doing
00:49:29.880 that my attorney got
00:49:31.140 a call an angry
00:49:32.080 call from the
00:49:32.760 the DA's office
00:49:33.800 and then eventually
00:49:36.680 said okay well you
00:49:37.560 know what
00:49:37.880 we're just we're
00:49:39.040 not going to move
00:49:39.440 forward with this
00:49:39.900 case they were
00:49:40.740 clearly bothered by
00:49:41.840 the fact that we
00:49:42.360 were demanding
00:49:42.960 discovery relating
00:49:44.360 to the discussions
00:49:45.220 between Rose City
00:49:46.680 Antifa and the
00:49:48.040 Portland Police
00:49:48.640 Department so
00:49:49.300 there's something
00:49:49.920 there there's
00:49:50.940 something there if
00:49:51.820 we didn't make
00:49:52.340 that demand I
00:49:53.140 don't think they
00:49:53.780 would have dropped
00:49:54.260 this case that's
00:49:55.320 an incredible story
00:49:56.560 it's not the story
00:49:57.300 I expected to hear
00:49:57.960 from you at all
00:49:58.580 that's an amazing
00:49:59.400 story and it's a
00:50:00.880 horrifying story
00:50:01.560 because where does
00:50:02.200 it leave the
00:50:03.100 citizens of Portland
00:50:03.940 I mean if the
00:50:05.440 police department is
00:50:06.340 in scare
00:50:06.760 then where do
00:50:09.800 you go
00:50:10.320 yeah I spoke
00:50:13.140 with a resident
00:50:13.940 there's an apartment
00:50:14.540 building that is
00:50:15.160 directly it's adjacent
00:50:16.300 to the ice facility
00:50:17.580 and they are these
00:50:20.320 residents are terrified
00:50:21.640 to speak publicly I
00:50:23.100 finally got one to
00:50:25.100 speak to me on
00:50:26.360 camera I haven't
00:50:26.860 released it yet but
00:50:28.360 he wanted his face
00:50:29.100 blurred because they're
00:50:30.400 terrified of what
00:50:31.320 happens when they walk
00:50:32.160 out of their apartment
00:50:33.820 building when they're
00:50:34.680 complaining about
00:50:35.900 what's going on in
00:50:36.600 the street and the
00:50:37.080 lack of action on
00:50:38.660 the on the part of
00:50:39.500 police officers and
00:50:40.340 the city of Portland
00:50:41.140 the city of Portland
00:50:42.140 there is a noise
00:50:43.040 ordinance in the city
00:50:43.880 of Portland you know
00:50:44.600 people have the right
00:50:45.780 to the the quiet
00:50:47.860 enjoyment of their
00:50:49.260 home right and and
00:50:52.200 the Portland police
00:50:52.940 and the city have
00:50:53.820 selectively decided
00:50:54.780 they're not going to
00:50:55.660 enforce it there to
00:50:56.980 the detriment of the
00:50:58.160 multiple veterans that
00:50:59.640 live there with PTSD
00:51:00.660 that are hearing them
00:51:01.680 the the Antifa folks
00:51:03.480 in the street shooting
00:51:04.140 off fireworks in the
00:51:04.920 middle of the night
00:51:05.460 scaring the crap out
00:51:06.680 of them they're talking
00:51:07.240 about children in
00:51:08.520 elevators that are
00:51:09.420 crying because it's
00:51:11.160 like a war zone out in
00:51:12.760 front of their house
00:51:13.480 every single day and
00:51:14.900 the police are just
00:51:15.640 letting it happen for
00:51:17.240 for what reason I
00:51:18.840 don't know is it
00:51:19.340 political is it because
00:51:20.620 they're totally
00:51:22.000 infiltrated by these
00:51:23.380 leftists I mean
00:51:24.540 there's there's a lot
00:51:26.560 of reasons that it
00:51:27.220 could be but it's
00:51:28.440 something that we need
00:51:29.160 to find out because
00:51:29.840 there are this is not
00:51:30.740 a a victimless
00:51:32.020 situation here the
00:51:33.640 victims are the people
00:51:34.860 of Portland that are
00:51:35.680 just trying to live
00:51:36.400 their lives and go
00:51:37.820 about their daily
00:51:39.220 business without fear
00:51:40.780 of of being you know
00:51:43.380 beaten in the street
00:51:44.480 for complaining that
00:51:46.400 people want to scream
00:51:47.220 in front of their
00:51:47.740 house at three o'clock
00:51:48.480 in the morning that's
00:51:49.120 how bad it is I think
00:51:50.760 a lot of Americans are
00:51:53.800 under the impression
00:51:55.040 that nothing has
00:51:55.960 changed in the last
00:51:56.660 40 years and the law
00:51:58.240 enforcement and
00:51:58.860 intelligence agencies
00:51:59.800 are fundamentally
00:52:00.440 pro-american and
00:52:02.500 committed to the rule
00:52:03.360 of law that would
00:52:04.000 include the US
00:52:05.040 military CIA NSA and
00:52:09.280 and police departments
00:52:10.180 and National Guard
00:52:11.140 units you know you
00:52:12.740 think they're sort of
00:52:13.500 on your side and I
00:52:16.420 think you're hitting
00:52:17.180 at something that most
00:52:18.860 people don't understand
00:52:19.700 which is a lot of
00:52:20.740 these organizations
00:52:22.380 these institutions have
00:52:23.600 been completely taken
00:52:24.480 over by people who
00:52:26.180 sympathize with Antifa
00:52:27.080 and I would include
00:52:27.780 the US military in
00:52:28.560 that many many
00:52:30.140 members of the US
00:52:30.680 military cheered the
00:52:31.540 assassination of Charlie
00:52:32.320 Kirk many online and
00:52:34.880 that seems like a
00:52:36.000 problem that needs to
00:52:36.800 that seems like the
00:52:37.700 problem because if
00:52:39.200 things go south the
00:52:40.260 people with the guns
00:52:40.920 have to be loyal to
00:52:42.580 the Constitution they
00:52:43.620 can't be loyal to
00:52:44.220 Antifa right
00:52:44.860 right and I mean you're
00:52:48.780 you're absolutely spot on
00:52:50.000 there it's uh it's
00:52:50.840 chilling the amount of
00:52:51.780 those are just the
00:52:52.520 people that we have that
00:52:53.540 are have the weirdly
00:52:55.680 enough have the balls to
00:52:56.740 say that stuff publicly
00:52:57.880 like condoning the
00:52:58.940 assassination Charlie
00:53:00.180 Kirk and stuff I mean
00:53:00.920 it's terrifying to think
00:53:01.840 how many of these people
00:53:02.440 are in the background
00:53:03.240 working for these uh
00:53:05.180 police agencies actually
00:53:06.080 we uh we were able to
00:53:07.900 get a secret service
00:53:08.780 agent fired one that
00:53:10.080 works on protective
00:53:10.880 details fired for saying
00:53:13.120 that Charlie Kirk had it
00:53:14.120 coming he said that
00:53:14.800 publicly on Facebook
00:53:16.340 that's somebody that
00:53:17.480 works on a protective
00:53:18.080 detail that should
00:53:18.780 terrify everybody
00:53:20.100 because then it it
00:53:21.420 leads back to think
00:53:22.280 okay well did they did
00:53:24.420 people within the secret
00:53:25.280 service just let what
00:53:26.440 happened to Trump and
00:53:28.580 Butler did they just let
00:53:29.880 that slide you know
00:53:31.000 uh the we know these
00:53:32.220 people exist we know
00:53:32.940 they're on these
00:53:33.300 protective details we
00:53:34.140 know that they've
00:53:34.640 infiltrated the military
00:53:35.640 uh that that that's
00:53:37.420 that's terrifying and we
00:53:38.620 really need uh systematic
00:53:40.700 reviews of all of this
00:53:42.320 stuff and I know down
00:53:43.720 there in uh in Portland
00:53:45.000 I'm actually uh so well
00:53:46.820 here in DC anyway here
00:53:48.220 in DC I will be meeting
00:53:49.280 tomorrow uh with Harmeet
00:53:51.300 Dillon and the Department
00:53:52.020 of Justice uh and
00:53:53.420 they'll be doing a a full
00:53:54.840 interview from start to
00:53:56.520 finish from uh from what
00:53:57.720 happened and what their
00:53:59.100 next steps are going to
00:54:00.200 be uh they I spoke with
00:54:02.360 President Trump about it
00:54:03.160 today personally they are
00:54:04.880 not going to let this go
00:54:06.860 uh they want to expose all
00:54:09.320 of the rot within this
00:54:10.540 police department out there
00:54:11.600 because ideally that will
00:54:13.780 uh that model will be
00:54:15.900 able to spread to other
00:54:17.320 uh police agencies across
00:54:18.780 the country like what they
00:54:20.120 find in in Portland may
00:54:21.580 help them in Chicago for
00:54:23.660 example so a can of worms
00:54:25.460 has been opened here uh the
00:54:27.640 uh police chief out there
00:54:29.280 in Oregon or in uh in
00:54:30.640 Portland has been on TV
00:54:32.160 every day slandering me
00:54:34.400 saying that it is
00:54:35.340 provocative to film in
00:54:37.500 public with a light on your
00:54:39.160 camera even though it's
00:54:40.260 dark and so you need a
00:54:41.440 light I mean any reasonable
00:54:43.180 human being can figure that
00:54:44.440 part out but they're
00:54:45.620 terrified they know that
00:54:47.260 that we're not letting this
00:54:48.500 go that we're that now they
00:54:49.980 got the DOJ on their backs
00:54:51.380 uh I I'm just hoping that uh
00:54:53.800 that the political pressure
00:54:54.940 keeps up and people don't
00:54:57.320 just forget about the story
00:54:58.400 yeah I I hope not um I know
00:55:01.100 that Harmeet Dillon who I know
00:55:02.480 very well my former lawyer is a
00:55:04.140 really serious and smart person
00:55:05.860 and a very tough person so I
00:55:08.580 have full confidence in her but
00:55:10.160 I I hope that we don't
00:55:12.520 devolve into like an endless
00:55:13.780 conversation about Antifa and
00:55:15.640 like you know some angry 19
00:55:17.120 year old yeah I'm against all
00:55:18.320 that but cops with guns and
00:55:20.920 handcuffs and the power to
00:55:22.360 arrest citizens if they're
00:55:24.240 corrupt boy there is nothing
00:55:25.620 scarier than that U.S.
00:55:27.180 military officers many of whom
00:55:28.940 are like lunatics like left-wing
00:55:30.920 lunatics and of course the
00:55:32.740 foreign policy establishment
00:55:33.780 doesn't care because all they
00:55:35.340 want is another profitable war
00:55:37.380 or they want to extend their
00:55:38.400 wars and you know Ukraine
00:55:39.740 etc they want to war with
00:55:41.100 Iran so they don't really
00:55:42.180 care about whether the people
00:55:43.700 who run the U.S.
00:55:44.360 military are loyal to the
00:55:45.820 constitution of the United
00:55:46.580 States they don't care at all
00:55:47.980 because they're not loyal to
00:55:48.940 the United States so but we
00:55:50.400 should care and I I just
00:55:52.320 really hope when you're up
00:55:53.240 there you're up there you'll
00:55:54.260 encourage a forensic look at
00:55:57.900 law enforcement number one
00:55:59.700 yeah absolutely and I think
00:56:04.500 you brought up a really good
00:56:05.760 point that needs to be talked
00:56:07.820 about more where if there is a
00:56:11.540 way and and I'll definitely ask
00:56:13.780 about this if there is a way to
00:56:15.360 put more federal power within the
00:56:17.880 Portland Police Department I don't
00:56:19.760 think it's able to be saved as is
00:56:21.300 I think it would need to be
00:56:22.580 totally just turned on its head or
00:56:24.720 maybe scrapped and started over
00:56:26.340 you know I I that that would be
00:56:28.920 you know I feel like that might
00:56:30.840 be the only way to save it unless
00:56:31.960 you can take federal control over
00:56:33.360 that stuff I think that was a
00:56:34.380 really good point that you made
00:56:35.320 now definitely definitely ask
00:56:37.380 about that look I mean this is
00:56:42.500 just what we've seen in one city
00:56:45.200 so far how many more of these
00:56:47.680 cities are having the same issues
00:56:49.800 that we're not talking about I
00:56:51.280 know Chicago is a hot topic and
00:56:52.620 stuff right now but you know I'm
00:56:54.520 sure is this stuff happening in
00:56:55.960 Seattle like how how many other
00:56:57.740 cities are you having this same
00:57:00.180 issue with corrupt political hacks
00:57:04.820 that are and have arrest powers I
00:57:07.400 mean that's that's very concerning
00:57:08.680 it's a concern everybody well that
00:57:11.120 you you really changed my mind Nick
00:57:13.500 and I appreciate your reporting and
00:57:15.200 thank you for doing this and I hope
00:57:16.800 you'll come back thank you for
00:57:20.160 shining the light on this Tucker
00:57:20.940 thank you
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01:01:32.320 ago we showed you tape from the governor of
01:01:35.660 Illinois J.B. Pritzker who's been governor
01:01:38.100 since 2019 I think running for president and
01:01:43.700 he compared Donald Trump to Hitler for
01:01:47.280 sending 500 heavyset National Guardsmen into
01:01:51.000 a city of many millions to restore order in
01:01:54.100 the face of very violent anti ice protests
01:01:56.940 thought it might be worth getting the
01:01:59.100 perspective of a former Illinois governor
01:02:01.120 someone who knows a lot about the state and
01:02:05.340 the city of Chicago is from the city of
01:02:06.940 Chicago former governor Robert Gojevich
01:02:09.460 joins us now governor thanks so much for
01:02:12.200 coming on
01:02:12.740 what do you make of Pritzker's position
01:02:18.680 here that 500 National Guardsmen are like
01:02:23.460 the Luftwaffe this is this is Nazi America the
01:02:26.420 fourth Reich what do you think of that I
01:02:30.600 don't want to malign Governor Pritzker
01:02:31.960 personally but anybody resembles a Nazi it's
01:02:35.000 Pritzker resembles Herman Gehrig
01:02:36.740 I was just thinking I was looking at his
01:02:42.680 because his hair gel is the way he combs his
01:02:46.740 brill cream in this way I was like who do you
01:02:48.780 remind me of and you remind me so funny excuse
01:02:51.840 me I agree with you right right look at if it if
01:02:56.700 anybody's a Nazi for bringing in the National
01:02:58.800 Guard and J.B. Pritzker should look in the mirror
01:03:00.900 because only a year ago he actually brought in the
01:03:03.840 the National Guard to protect what wealthy
01:03:07.440 white limousine liberal Democratic donors and
01:03:11.040 Democratic delegates at the Democratic
01:03:13.040 Convention in Chicago he was more than happy to
01:03:16.160 do that but he won't do it when President
01:03:18.480 Trump wants to send the National Guard to help
01:03:20.560 and work with the Chicago police to fight crime
01:03:23.200 and in our city in in a city where every single
01:03:27.600 day at least one person is murdered in a city
01:03:30.000 where nearly 600 crimes are reported
01:03:33.760 every single day in a city where 80% of those
01:03:36.400 murders you see the crime in Chicago is
01:03:38.160 segregated you know the carjackers and the
01:03:40.560 retail thieves and the armed robbers they go
01:03:42.560 all over the city but the murders are taking
01:03:45.200 place in the black neighborhoods and in the
01:03:46.640 brown neighborhoods 80% of the murders in
01:03:48.880 Chicago are in the black neighborhoods or black
01:03:51.040 people and the other 15 95% all together are
01:03:54.320 black people and Latinos and so the Democrats
01:03:58.320 like Pritzker who claim to be on the side of black
01:04:00.320 people and Latinos are basically saying we're
01:04:03.120 going to use the National Guard to protect
01:04:05.200 donors Democratic donors and delegates but no
01:04:08.400 no we don't want your help Mr. President to
01:04:10.720 actually save black lives because for those
01:04:13.440 Democrats notwithstanding their rhetoric black
01:04:15.600 lives matter only to them for their votes and
01:04:19.280 what Pritzker's doing now is he's hyper
01:04:21.360 politicizing a very serious issue he's standing
01:04:24.880 in front of the schoolhouse door like George
01:04:27.680 Wallace did back in 63 when Kennedy
01:04:29.840 federalized the National Guard correctly to
01:04:32.160 allow two black students to get into the
01:04:33.520 University of Alabama now Pritzker is sort of a
01:04:37.280 modern-day version of George Wallace in some
01:04:39.360 respects and that he's blocking trying to
01:04:41.280 block President Trump working to block
01:04:44.000 President Trump and federal law enforcement
01:04:46.240 from coming to Chicago to carry out the
01:04:48.400 mandate the American people gave President
01:04:50.080 Trump in the last election and that is to
01:04:52.000 secure our borders and to fix the illegal
01:04:54.400 migrant problems and it's undeniable that there
01:04:57.440 are tens of thousands of criminals who joined
01:05:00.240 the nearly 14 million illegal immigrants have
01:05:03.200 come to America according to Pew Research and
01:05:05.760 estimates are that conservatively 10 percent of
01:05:08.320 those are criminals so that means we're talking
01:05:10.080 about over a million criminals that have come to
01:05:12.400 America and what kind of criminals are there
01:05:14.320 what are they they are gangsters and they're drug dealers
01:05:18.960 they're child sex traffickers they're sex offenders
01:05:23.680 and they're cold-blooded killers and it's amazing
01:05:26.560 and it's mind-boggling to me that J.B. Pritzker would choose
01:05:29.280 this issue because this this motivation is politics
01:05:32.320 he's playing to the crazy left-wing crowd in the
01:05:34.000 Democrat Party but it's really offensive and immoral
01:05:37.040 that he would do something like this and stand in the way of
01:05:41.600 actually following the law because the supremacy clause in our
01:05:45.440 constitution is very clear the federal law is supreme
01:05:49.680 over state law and he should not be resisting or
01:05:53.440 working to resist federal law so look
01:05:57.120 I have a confession to make Tucker when I was governor
01:05:59.520 early on I knew him because he contributed to
01:06:02.640 democratic politicians because he was very wealthy
01:06:05.440 and he asked me to make him director of the Illinois Human
01:06:07.920 Rights Commission so if I'm going to confess to any crime
01:06:10.640 because I didn't commit any any crimes
01:06:12.720 but the near criminal thing I did was actually hiring that guy
01:06:16.240 it was a big mistake
01:06:18.240 did he improve human rights in the state of Illinois
01:06:22.560 no and you know what you know I don't know
01:06:25.120 I worked with him too on the Holocaust Museum in Illinois
01:06:28.240 in Skokie, Illinois and at that time he seemed to be a very
01:06:30.960 reasonable guy but he's he's changed a lot I think and
01:06:35.040 I don't know if it I don't know what the what the cause is
01:06:38.320 other than he's got the desire to run for president be
01:06:41.040 president and notwithstanding President Taft and
01:06:44.560 his success to be elected president
01:06:46.560 JB is never going to be president I know the guy he's got no chance
01:06:50.640 Taft was in a three-man race as you'll recall
01:06:53.440 in 1912 no that's yeah no I don't I don't think he has much of a chance
01:06:57.600 um it's it's interesting I mean you've been a governor
01:07:00.160 there aren't many people who've been governor of anything and to be governor of
01:07:02.880 Illinois you know one of your concerns is
01:07:05.440 population the state's population because
01:07:07.600 of course federal dollars house seats they're dependent on how many people
01:07:11.760 live in your state and Chicago land that area has depopulated
01:07:16.880 people born in Chicago have left in amazing numbers
01:07:20.000 very similar to what's happened in California
01:07:21.840 but the population aggregate number hasn't changed that much
01:07:25.440 because of the inflow from the third world
01:07:28.480 so if you're it's a little bit like the Catholic Church is always promoting
01:07:31.760 immigration because they they need the the seats people in the seats um
01:07:38.400 I wonder if that's part of his motivation
01:07:41.280 like Chicago it's what percent of Chicago wasn't born in the United States huge
01:07:48.480 well no well that's right and and the activists in the Democratic Party
01:07:51.760 there's so many different activist groups in the Democratic Party that
01:07:54.480 push immigration rights and in those sorts of issues and
01:07:57.520 look I think you would agree I heard your your monologue and which was
01:08:01.760 profoundly interesting uh I mean most of the people that have
01:08:05.200 come to America illegally these 14 million that have crashed through our
01:08:08.640 borders because Biden basically said we don't have borders
01:08:11.920 those are good people and they're doing the work that you talked about
01:08:14.720 I agree but see they're victims and you know and you know who victimized them
01:08:18.320 it's these hypocritical Democrats when they started opening up these
01:08:21.120 sanctuary cities basically saying come on in we're getting put a sign up come on
01:08:26.320 into America don't worry about our immigration laws nobody cares and you
01:08:30.240 can come into our city and we'll protect you forget about what the federal law
01:08:33.440 might be which you don't even know anyway but it's no big deal to us come on in
01:08:37.680 and so these are well-intentioned kind-hearted probably innocent people
01:08:42.240 who want to chase the American dream like my immigrant father did when he came
01:08:46.800 over here legally after Congress passed the displaced persons act after World War II
01:08:51.200 they came here looking for an opportunity because they're committed to their
01:08:54.720 families they want to build a better life yeah and that's the great story of
01:08:57.920 America in immigration the thing that's missing is but you got to come legally
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01:09:05.920 Biden didn't secure the borders and the Democrats opened up sanctuary cities and
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01:13:30.080 signed any immigration law they have nothing to do with him they pre-exist his presidency so he's
01:13:34.800 trying to enforce existing law and they are abetting breaking that law so it does seem like
01:13:44.720 insurrection to me i mean if if a state won't obey like a core federal law like immigration law then
01:13:51.280 where does that where does that leave us honestly like how can we share a union
01:13:55.920 no your questions well uh you probably raised you know you talked about civil war and you know you
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01:14:47.840 mayor there bowser was willing to accept that and work with him and you know they can get into
01:14:53.680 the nuances oh well that's a federal city versus a you know a city like chicago but if you're the
01:14:58.880 governor of the state of illinois or the mayor of chicago you have an obligation to your citizens to
01:15:04.400 keep them safe and the national guard coming into chicago with all the crime we have and the need to support
01:15:11.920 ice in its efforts to follow the law and do what's necessary to follow the law you would think that
01:15:18.960 a governor irrespective of party would welcome that support and thank the president and then take credit
01:15:24.800 for the success of protecting american citizens and american taxpayers but our politics has gotten so
01:15:30.720 crazy and the democratic party is such a crazy party now with the lunatic fringe becoming the mainstream
01:15:36.240 and guys who are somewhat reasonable like jb pritzker being transformed he's what he's trying to become
01:15:42.240 is basically aoc and drag okay he's trying to like get into her politics as opposed to sort of being
01:15:50.640 the bill clinton type democrat that supposedly he used to be and the democrat party doesn't seem to have
01:15:55.520 room for the bill clinton democrats anymore the jfk democrats anymore uh this is a party that's you
01:16:01.280 know been taken over by that left-wing radical fringe that is no longer the radical fringe it's now
01:16:06.080 the radical mainstream and it's a socialist communist kind of party and it's a it's a party and our
01:16:11.760 governor again that you know is basically siding with mob violence and anarchy and chaos over you
01:16:18.160 know the law the rule of law law enforcement and those who have to enforce the rule of law and that's
01:16:24.160 what this conflict is now and that's why it's a seminal moment in our history and it's why i think
01:16:28.080 president trump is going to go down probably 150 years from now because historians can't be objective
01:16:32.960 as one of our great presidents because i do believe he's going to be successful in this
01:16:36.400 and solve this problem because he has the law on his side i mean if if he doesn't solve it then
01:16:43.040 we're in for disunion ahead i mean i i don't i don't see how you can have in a state with no internal
01:16:49.120 in a country with no internal passports how you can have some states following immigration law and
01:16:54.000 others ignoring it it doesn't work i mean it just practically doesn't work so i really hope it can
01:17:00.160 be solved do you think in the democratic party which obviously you know a lot about
01:17:04.080 there are any candidates on the horizon who are reform candidates like bill clinton in 92 like okay
01:17:11.440 we went too crazy we need to pull back a little bit and reorient around america's interests who even
01:17:16.800 say words like that do you see any of those you know i think the nearest thing to that would be
01:17:22.320 senator fetterman in pennsylvania the guy that wears a hoodie yeah he seems to be sensible and willing to
01:17:27.600 find common ground to work and and support traditional things that you know that you know
01:17:32.080 that all americans have historically been for what the old democratic party used to be for so i think
01:17:37.280 there is at least one low voice in that party um you know i haven't completely written myself off as
01:17:42.880 a democrat believe it or not i mean i can't begin to tell you you know i'm a trumpocrat i i say that
01:17:47.520 openly and i'm so proud to be that and grateful to president trump personally but frankly put that
01:17:51.520 aside i think he's being he's a great president a necessary president and he's and he's doing things that
01:17:56.560 that must be done to to save our country and then make it great again first we have to save our
01:18:00.880 country um but no i you know the hatred and the vitriol on the on the far left democrat side
01:18:08.160 is palpable i live in a neighborhood you know that used to vote for me a lot and uh i was out on the
01:18:14.400 street the other day tucker i came back from downtown chicago and some guy clearly he was a man he was
01:18:20.240 muscular and i think he was a man muscular and then he had long hair but he had a beard a full beard
01:18:26.160 but what threw me was he was wearing a dress and combat boots and he walked by and he took you
01:18:31.520 know took a double take recognized it was me then he gives me the finger and uh my first reaction was
01:18:37.200 okay you know a guy like that gives me the finger i'm gonna you know probably give him an f you or give
01:18:40.880 him the finger back but then i wasn't sure whether it was a man or a woman and i'm trying not to swear
01:18:44.480 at women so i had to hold my tongue but that's sort of the element that's now a large loud voice within
01:18:51.600 the democratic party and thank you for the work that you're doing is because i love our country
01:18:55.840 and i was saying what my government's done to me i love my country i've lived the american dream myself
01:19:00.240 there's no place like america and this is the last best hope best hope on earth as lincoln said a true
01:19:05.680 and a great illinoisan um but thank you for the work that you're doing because i still i believe and i
01:19:10.640 know you do too that that forgotten american the great vast silent majority that nixon talked about
01:19:15.520 and and and changed american politics it still exists it's what elected trump last november people
01:19:22.240 with common sense believe in god love our country don't burn the flag don't like people who burn the
01:19:29.040 flag you know believe in the traditional values of our country they still make up most of the americans
01:19:34.880 and i still believe actually most of rank-and-file democratic voters if those democrat voters can get
01:19:40.880 over the fact that they've been lifelong democrats because it's hard to you know change your
01:19:44.960 love for your team they can get over that and they are they're increasingly going to leave the
01:19:49.680 democratic party as they're doing and that democrat party is going to increasingly become a party of
01:19:54.800 crazy left-wingers and whoever gets the nomination whoever the republic candidate is against them in two
01:19:59.280 years um i think he's gonna have a long hard chance hard time to be able to win i think our country
01:20:04.880 is waking up and i think president trump has been at the vanguard of that and um i'm not the only
01:20:09.920 trump book right out there democrat for trump you're definitely the most articulate rod bogojevich
01:20:15.680 thank you so much for joining us i really appreciate it good to talk to you again tucker thank you great
01:20:20.880 talk to you thank you and thanks for joining us tonight as the fourth installment of our live
01:20:26.560 experiment continues we'll be back next wednesday at 6 eastern thanks a lot
01:20:39.520 we've got a new website we hope you will visit it's called new commission now dot com and it refers to
01:20:46.160 a new 9-11 commission so we spent months putting together our 9-11 documentary series and if there's one
01:20:53.840 thing we learned it's that in fact there was foreknowledge of the attacks people knew the
01:21:00.960 american public deserves to know we're shocked actually to learn that to have that confirmed
01:21:05.120 but it's true the evidence is overwhelming the cia for example knew the hijackers were here in
01:21:09.280 the united states they knew they were planning an act of terror in his passport is a visa to go to
01:21:15.760 the united states of america a foreign national was caught celebrating as the world trade center
01:21:20.560 fell and later said he was in new york quote to document the event i didn't know there would be
01:21:25.760 an event to document in the first place because he had foreknowledge and maybe most amazingly somebody
01:21:31.600 an unknown investor shorted american airlines and united airlines the companies whose planes the
01:21:36.880 attackers used on 9-11 as well as the banks that were inside the twin towers just before the attacks
01:21:42.960 they made money on the 9-11 attacks because they knew they were coming who did that you have to look
01:21:49.760 at the evidence the u.s government learned the name of that investor but never released it
01:21:57.360 maybe there's an instant explanation for all this but there isn't actually and by the way it doesn't
01:22:01.840 matter whether there is or not the public deserves to know what the hell that was how did people know
01:22:08.000 ahead of time why was no one ever punished for it 9-11 commission the original one was a fraud it was
01:22:14.960 fake its conclusions were written before the investigation that's true and it's outrageous
01:22:21.120 this country needs a new 9-11 commission one that actually tells the truth that tries to get to the
01:22:26.480 bottom of the story we can't just move on like nothing happened 9-11 commission
01:22:33.680 something did happen we need to force a new investigation into 9-11 almost 25 years later
01:22:40.960 sorry justice demands it and if you want that go to newcommissionnow.com to add your name to our
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