ICE Protests and Antifa Riots: Tucker Carlson Warns of Total Destruction if America Doesn’t Act Fast
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The United States is moving toward civil war. Why? Why is it happening? And what would it mean if it did happen? What would it look like? And why is it worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign enemy?
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Well, not to be depressing, but here's the truth and something you should keep in mind
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over the next few years. The United States, two things to keep in mind. The United States
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is moving, not inexorably, but still moving toward civil war, number one. And number two,
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civil wars are the very worst kind of wars, worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign
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adversary. So to number one, why is America moving towards civil war? For the same reason
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all countries that wind up in civil war get there, because the differences between their
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population, between people within their borders, becomes too great to bear. People decide I have
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nothing in common with people who live near me, and I don't want to live near them anymore. In other
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words, diversity, difference, is actually intolerable to most people. Not necessarily
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racial diversity, though sometimes that too, but diversity of all kinds. It is not our strength.
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In fact, it is without question our weakness, and it has always been. If you have nothing in
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common with your wife, do you have a stronger marriage? No, of course your marriage falls
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apart, and the same is true for countries. And the truth about the United States is that on
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every level, beginning with a demographic level, the American population has less in common with
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itself, with one another, than ever before. When I was born, which wasn't that long ago,
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it was the modern era, it was air travel and air conditioning, electricity. When I was born,
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the United States was about 90% white Christian. It's now less than 40% white Christian. Now,
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you may think that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a massive change, an unprecedented change,
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really, in a very short period of time. And of course, it's not accidental or organic. That was
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the result of policies put in place to achieve that result, and they did. There are people who
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didn't want a majority white Christian country. Okay, they got what they wanted, but what do they have?
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They have a country with no majority demographically at all. There is no American majority, which is to
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say 51% of people who have something very basic in common. And so what you have is an inherently
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fractured country. Languages, religions, ethnicities, backgrounds, beliefs, too innumerable to catalog.
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And so a country like that, unless unified by something, will split apart, particularly when
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that country is the size of a continent, and is held together by a pretty fragile web of infrastructure,
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air routes and highways. And so unless you are very self-conscious about keeping it together
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physically, but also spiritually, explaining to people why they should have any regard at all,
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much less any obligation to people in, say, the next town, much less the next state.
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Unless you do that self-consciously, unless you inculcate a sense of national identity,
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it will by nature fall apart. That is a physics principle, entropy. It'll blow up unless you hold
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it together. And this has been an untended garden for decades, decades. Nobody in charge of the United
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States over the past, say, 40 years has really tried to articulate why all of us should live
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together on the same continent. There's kind of been an unspoken ethos of America, a kind of gay
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rights technocracy, globo homo. We're all kind of cool with, you know, lifestyles. But that's thin
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gruel in the end. It's also repulsive. But even if you like it, it's not enough to hold people together
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who don't have common beliefs, backgrounds, languages, religions. It's just not. It's pathetic.
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It's rich people politics. It doesn't actually mean anything. It's just an adornment. It's political
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jewelry. It's a bumper sticker. It's not a national identity, and it's not enough to hold your country
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together. And that's why ours is coming apart, because people don't have enough in common.
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So what would happen if it came apart? What would happen if there were a civil war? Well, the first thing
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to know is it would be incredibly violent because wars are by nature violent, and civil wars especially
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so. Violent and crazy. And you do hear from time to time people on both sides, particularly on the
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left, but not only on the left, say, well, I'm just sick of it. I'm just sick of it. You know, I'm ready.
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I'm ready for the fight. People who say that have never seen what that looks like. Anyone who has seen
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what that looks like approaches the entire topic with care and respect, because it's incredibly ugly,
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and its effects are generational. And if you don't believe it, consider our own civil war,
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which ended 160 years ago in 1865, and we're still fighting it. We're still arguing over the
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names of Confederate generals, tearing down their statues, renaming military bases, and stereotyping
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people in the South. That war is still ongoing on some level. It's not a hot war, but it's very
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much a cold war and has been for 160 years. Go to Spain. Their civil war ended in, what, 1939.
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They're still arguing about it. They're still passing legislation about it. The wounds left
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by civil wars do not heal quickly. They last for, I don't know, hundreds of years, and they
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completely remake the country, usually for the worse. So disunity is easy. Rebuilding into a
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single country after a civil war is very, very hard, and sometimes it never even works. There
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are civil wars in effect ongoing on this planet right now for hundreds of years, and they probably
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will never be resolved, because the people fighting each other within national borders don't have
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anything in common. That's the truth. So if you want to prevent a civil war, figure out what everybody,
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or at least the bulk of the people in your nation have in common, and emphasize that. And so what
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would that be in our case? Hard to know. In fact, at this stage, really the only realistic hope
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for national unity is spiritual revival is a place where most Americans wake up to realize that God
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exists and created every single person in the United States of America, and that's what we have
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in common, our humanity. Not because our common humanity is meaningful by itself, but because
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our common humanity comes from God and we're created in His image. And only when people truly realize
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that, well, they hesitate before killing each other. But in the meantime, and we hope that comes soon,
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but in the meantime, there is a step that the government at all levels, federal, state, and local,
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can take to restore at least a sense of calm in the midst of rising chaos. And if you can't
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smell that right now, then you obviously have long COVID because it is redolent. This country is on
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the brink. And in fact, you saw the normal dummies today on social media taking pictures from Portland,
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Oregon. Everything is fine here in Portland. They're liars. Or they're intentionally blind to
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the reality right in front of them, which is the country is degrading. And you can tell by its cities,
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they are falling apart. There's no country in the world with as many ugly, dangerous, dysfunctional,
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dirty cities as we have. It's painful to say that as someone who was born and has always lived here
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and plans to always live here. But that's a fact. And as someone who travels a lot, I can affirm what
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you already know. Our cities are dying. And when your cities die, your country dies. And a lot of
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people don't want to believe this because they moved to rural areas and are hoping to just sort of ignore
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it. I'd be in that category. But it's nevertheless true. When your cities die, your country dies.
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And our cities are dying the kind of death that can't be permanent. They're dying the death born of
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chaos where things just get so crazy and people literally die on the street. Also have sex and
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defecate on the street, but die on the street. And that's intolerable. Chaos is intolerable. People can't
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handle it. So out of chaos comes what? Democracy? Spontaneous order? No. Imposed order? Dictatorship?
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Of course. Each and every time. That's what happens out of chaos. People beg for a strong man.
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There's always someone willing to oblige. And that's exactly what they get.
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And that's exactly what we're going to get unless some kind of order is restored.
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Which is another way of saying restoring order is not a step toward totalitarianism. It may be the
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only way to prevent it. But we need to do it now. Walk through any American city and be honest with
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yourself. Is this working? It's clearly getting worse. What'll it look like in 10 years? The
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differences between states are getting more profound. You wouldn't expect that, actually.
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After the advent of radio and then television, the internet, mass media, the idea was, well,
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regional differences are going away because all of us are united by the media we consume. And that's
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no longer true. And in fact, our media are exacerbating the differences or highlighting them
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anyway. And so a place like South Florida is more different from South California than it's ever been.
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And extrapolate forward five years, eight years, 10 years. Will it be possible to drive from South
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Florida to Southern California? Well, of course it will. It's America. Really? Is it possible to drive
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from Sao Paulo, Brazil to Rio? Not really. Because it's too dangerous. Because it's too chaotic. And
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Brazil, by the way, is not a third world country. Brazil is a real country about the size of the United
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States with a highly educated, impressive population, amazing natural resources, a lot going
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for it. And yet that country, through successive governments, has been unable to restore order to
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its highways. So that's the rule globally. That's the state of nature globally. And that could very
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easily happen here. And we've been moving in that direction for decades. We sit, those of us on the
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East Coast, and look over at the West Coast, my home state of California, and watch its politicians
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declare boycotts against this or that American state. Or say in public, I'm not going to follow
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this federal law. The federal government has no dominion here. We all sort of laugh. Oh, they're so
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crazy. Each one of those actions is a form of insurrection. In fact, every bit as profound as anything
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that happened in Fort Sumter in 1861, the battle that kicked off the Civil War, the deadliest war in
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American history, the one from which we're still recovering, those are acts of insurrection.
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Either you have a federal government with power over the states, or you don't. Either federal laws
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apply to all 50 states, or they don't. And for decades, some states have opted out of federal law,
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and the rest of the states have just sort of laughed at them or tried to ignore it.
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Oh, marijuana is illegal? Well, we're going to have marijuana anyway.
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Oregon decriminalized fentanyl and meth five years ago. If ever there was a time to send federal
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troops into Oregon, it was when Oregon did that, thereby killing thousands and thousands and thousands
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of its citizens and also ignoring federal law. Those are illegal narcotics. We blow up boats full of those
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things. But the state of Oregon decided unilaterally, well, we're just going to effectively legalize
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them. And lots of states have done that, and the feds have done nothing. But now, because the issue
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is immigration, which is a core issue, the federal government is doing something. President Trump
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has announced that he is sending federal troops to the state of Oregon and to the city of Chicago.
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He's not yet sent federal troops to Oregon. There's a court fight that's way too complex and
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not that interesting to explain at the moment, look it up, that has prevented that. But National
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Guardsmen have arrived, mostly from Texas, in the state of Illinois, in Chicago, to force,
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the president says, that city to allow ICE, the Immigration Service, federal immigration officers,
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to do their job, to deport people who are breaking federal law, illegal aliens. And the mayor of
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Chicago and the governor of Illinois have said multiple times, we do not follow federal immigration
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law in the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago. So the president is forcing this issue.
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They're in violation of the law. He says he's working to uphold the law. Here is the response of J.B.
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Pritzker, who is the longtime, six years now, I think, governor of Chicago, to the president's
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deployment of National Guards troops to Illinois. Watch.
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What I know is, in the early days of the Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away
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people's rights. And what we're seeing now is the very same thing. They've gone into cities now with
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the military. Think about that. In your lifetime, have you ever seen anything like that? Where the
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president of the United States is sending military or troops dressed as military, ICE and CBP, in
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camouflage, with automatic weapons, into our major cities? It's wrong. He's such a buffoon. So
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demented is the Democratic Party. That guy thinks he's going to be president. Have you ever seen this
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before us? In American history, has there ever been a single instance of some Nazi in the White
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House sending troops into a state to uphold federal? It's never happened before. It's never
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happened before, except it's happened like a million times. And it's been celebrated almost
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every single time. Beginning at least in September of 1957, three years after the Brown versus Board of
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Education decision came down from the Supreme Court banning segregation in public schools in the
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United States. And in the state of Arkansas, in the capital city, Little Rock, Central High School,
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a high school was not following this Supreme Court decision. And so Dwight David Eisenhower,
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General Eisenhower, commander of American troops in Europe during World War II, the president of the
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United States sent the 101st Airborne to Central High School. The 101st Airborne, not like 300 fat
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guardsmen from San Antonio, but the 101st Airborne with M1s to a high school. And then he left his
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vacation and he went on television to explain why he did it. And remarkably, thanks to the internet,
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we have the tape. Here's part of it. In that city, under the leadership of demagogic extremists,
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disorderly mobs have deliberately prevented the carrying out of proper orders from a federal court.
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Local authorities have not eliminated that violent opposition. And under the law,
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I yesterday issued a proclamation calling upon the mob to disperse.
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Yep, that was General then President Eisenhower, September 1957, sending the 101st Airborne to
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Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, because the racist governor, Orville Faubus, wouldn't let
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black students attend a white high school. And every liberal in America applauded. Shoot them!
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There was one girl in the crowd that day who smirked or scowled at one of the young black ladies being
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escorted into the school. And she shouldn't have done that. It was cruel, obviously. But it wrecked her
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life. That picture, which ran the Arkansas Democrat, September of 1957, wrecked her life, actually. She
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never got out from under that. And that's a measure of how strongly the media, the American establishment,
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and some of the public were behind the president. Look, it's a Supreme Court order. It's the law of
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the land. You can't disobey it, or else we have mob rules. Someone's going to rule, okay? It'll either be
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a dispassionate law that treats everybody equally, or it will be an individual who plays favorites.
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So your choice really is not between no law and law. That's not a choice. Your choice is between
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the rule of law or anarchy, which leads to dictatorship. That's your choice. And Eisenhower,
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in an interesting speech, 13-minute long speech, laid this all out, which is on YouTube. You should
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check it out. He explained why he did it. It wasn't about simply desegregating a high school in Little
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Rock. It was about upholding the basis of the American judicial system, which is to say the
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basis of America itself, which is equal application of the law, fairness under the law. It's a nation
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of laws, not men. And he did that, and it was roundly applauded, and it worked in some ways.
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Public education was totally destroyed nationally, but whatever, the rule of law was upheld.
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Five years later, noting what a popular move this was, apparently, his successor, John F. Kennedy,
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faced a pretty similar situation at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Mississippi. It was,
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again, September 1962, and there was a lone black student attempting to enroll. His name was James
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Meredith. He's still alive. He's 92 years old. He's a total right-winger, by the way, which is
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interesting. But he was trying to enroll, and the school would not accept his application because he
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was black. And so President Kennedy also sent the military to Ole Miss. How many did he send?
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President Trump has sent three to five hundred guardsmen to Chicago, to a city of millions.
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President Kennedy sent 31,000 U.S. soldiers, U.S. Army soldiers, to a campus of 6,000.
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Yeah, that's more than five armed soldiers per student. 31,000 American troops descended on the
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campus of Ole Miss in Oxford, Mississippi at the very end of September, early October 1962,
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and they shut it down. And they camped on the quad in tents, and they put tanks on the football field,
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and they put machine gun emplacements on the quad. A couple people were shot to death.
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And President Kennedy made a bit overkill, in fact, disgusting overkill, in fact, fascist
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overkill. But the point is, he was applauded for it because there was a federal law emanating from
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a Supreme Court decision, and he was upholding it in the same way that President Trump is currently
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attempting to, in a much less vigorous way, uphold federal immigration law passed by the United
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States Congress, which is core to the country. Who lives here is the main question in any country.
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Who lives there? What is the country? It's the people who live there.
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And immigration law is the way that you regulate that. So if you don't control that,
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you're literally not a country. So that's not an optional law. That is a core law.
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And in the case of Chicago and Portland, but particularly Chicago, shameful. Thousands,
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thousands of people are shot in Chicago every year. Whole parts of Chicago you can't go to. Not
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if you're like me, you can't. It's so racist and violent, you literally can't walk through parts
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of a city that you pay for as a federal taxpayer, as an American. You can't walk through it.
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But several years ago, you'll remember there was a huge debate in Europe. Are there no go zones in
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Paris? Are there parts where, you know, native-born Parisians can't go? Where they're not welcome?
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Oh, that's not true. They said that's not true. But of course, whether or not, of course, it was true.
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But what's even more true is that that's the state of play in the United States and has been
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for generations. Huge parts of a city, huge, you could walk all day through parts of a city that you
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actually can't walk through because they're too dangerous for you. And Chicago is particularly,
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particularly disgraceful in its decline. And you have to guess about that. I'm going to show you
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video in just a second, but you don't have to guess. Look at the numbers. Look at the outflow from
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Chicago. Are people who were born in Chicago staying in Chicago? No, they're fleeing. Go to
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Southwest Florida. Go to dinner in Naples some night and ask, anyone here from Illinois? It's half the
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room. And they're grateful to be gone. That's how dystopian it is on every level, economically,
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primarily. But even on a more basic level, it's just too dangerous. Oh, the freedoms we're losing.
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Really? What about my freedom to walk to the liquor store at midnight without getting killed?
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How about my freedom to stop at a red light without getting shot? That's totally real.
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It's not fake. It's not racist to say that. The mayor of Chicago is an open racist. So irony of
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ironies, here you have a president sending troops facing down a recalcitrant racist local official.
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That does sound like 1962, doesn't it? Except this time, the president in question is not getting
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accolades from the New York Times. He's being called a dictator! A dictator! But just to set the table
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here, to lay down the framework for what we're talking about. Chicago, the city. What does
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Chicago look like? This question is very much like everything else you talk about. Trans surgeries,
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abortion, whatever the topic is, the people promoting it never want you to see what it actually
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looks like. Just an idea. It's a right. It's a theoretical concept. No one wants to see
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what it looks like to cut someone's penis off and create a vagina with a knife. That's what
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it actually is. Our rights in Chicago, what does Chicago actually look like? Well, here's
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Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here!
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Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here! Stop doing that! You got to
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so what's interesting about those videos is who's participating in the rioting in the violence
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there there's the normal assortment of unhappy white young people make up the bulk of antifa
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make up the bulk of the democratic party party's activist wing all the little dsa kids you know
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the children of orthodontists from great deck who are you know reliving the glories of the 60s or
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whatever the weird little polyamorous nihilist freaks who don't see any future for themselves
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economically so just burn it down i mean very very familiar to anyone who's watched this stuff over
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the years a repulsive group a dangerous group a sad group by the way you shouldn't have a lot of young
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people like that in a functioning country they should be looking forward to a brighter future
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getting married having kids doing something useful building something not just destroying
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but they're not so that is recognizable we've seen a lot of that over the past 10 years and we're
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going to see a lot more going forward unfortunately unless someone gets a hold of us now but what was
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new in that video were what looked like immigrants latin american immigrants and if we're going to be
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totally honest about latin american immigration most of our immigration up until pretty recently
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now it seems all south asian but up until very recently most of our immigration overwhelming
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majority of our immigration to this country was from mexico and the central american country some
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south america but mostly mexico salvador honduras nicaragua the the usual latin america close by
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countries in our hemisphere people taking trains and walking to get here and the truth is all illegal
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immigration is bad rapid mass migration is always bad because it makes countries crazy and chaotic
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but it's also true that our latin american immigrants are i mean probably met a million of them good
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people super hard workers and it's true that they're doing jobs that you know you probably did as a kid
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and your kids probably aren't doing those jobs because latin americans are doing them i'm saying this
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if you're white so i think most people who are very opposed to illegal immigration and very opposed
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to mass migration at this point very opposed to any immigration which would include me definitely
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are not mad at latin american immigrants because they're mostly nice people they're christian people
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and they work hard and there's some drunk driving but in general they kind of play by the rules most of them
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the idea that people would get here as immigrants and immediately join a violent street protest
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you know we haven't seen that since about 1905 we haven't that's shocking that's scary if that's
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true and it's scary for the following reason the volume the scale how many immigrants did we get
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during the biden years well no one knows of course people pretend they know but they don't know
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millions and millions and millions and millions and they're entering a job market that is being
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destroyed by technology by ai quantum computing so there was no labor market need for these immigrants
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it's not like america was just dying for more people to do jobs because we have fewer jobs and if you
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don't believe if you got college-aged kids ask them if any of their friends are employed in october
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after graduating no they're not because there are no jobs so unemployment is going up everyone lies
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about it but it is and we just imported i don't know 10 maybe 10 million new people what are they
00:26:28.160
doing here what was the purpose of that how are they living well they're living of course on the
00:26:34.500
government but why why did they get here why did biden bring them in that's a question that no one's
00:26:45.520
answered and all of a sudden you look at these videos and you see people who are clearly just off the
00:26:50.700
boat or the train and you start to wonder like maybe we were actually invaded maybe our ruling class
00:27:02.400
imported an army and pretended they were migrants looking for a better life
00:27:07.280
and maybe we're about to find out what that means this is really scary because we don't know who lives
00:27:16.220
in this country we don't know the total population of the country and again like the inflation rate like
00:27:20.540
the unemployment rate is something that our leaders lie about constantly but they don't know they don't
00:27:26.280
know they don't know how many people live here and they don't know who they are of course they have
00:27:30.000
biometrics they could find out but they haven't why is that so if all of a sudden these migrants are
00:27:35.720
participating in street protests where they're throwing bricks through the windows of passing cars
00:27:39.520
picking up orange cones and throwing them at minivans you could see this getting completely out of
00:27:45.160
control and it's a reminder of something that is very often true which is civil wars become race wars
00:27:53.020
that is the truth it's true globally civil it was true in latin america lots of the wars in latin
00:27:59.820
america were really between the europeans and the indigenous between the indians and the spanish
00:28:05.320
descendants that's true it's true in el salvador it's true across latin america
00:28:09.760
that could happen here somebody needs to get this under control before it does because chaos
00:28:17.740
breeds chaos it metastasizes that's true in your home and it's true in your nation so getting this
00:28:24.080
stuff under control now before it becomes uncontrollable before it becomes impossible to drive
00:28:29.940
to san diego from miami is absolutely essential and the second thing that would be nice along the
00:28:39.540
way is to stop the degradation of the united states the true degradation now portland oregon
00:28:45.220
is one of the prettiest cities in the world by the way now it's a byword for sadness and death
00:28:52.800
drug use and the homeless but for a very long time portland was considered one of the prettiest places
00:28:59.020
ever a kind of northern san francisco really a really pretty place charming place nice place nice people
00:29:03.960
and the past 20 years it's become thanks again to the influence of a very specific class
00:29:09.280
professional class decadent whites it has become a hellscape it's true under the influence of secular
00:29:20.540
whites npr listening liberals who do not get the credit they deserve for their sinister behavior
00:29:28.600
their death worship it has become the kind of place where no normal person would want to go
00:29:33.660
and it's sad because it is fundamentally so great here's a montage of what portland looks like i am
00:29:39.900
smack dab in the middle of a portland green space everywhere you look trash paraphernalia rotting food
00:29:50.880
and even dead animals this is the reality to the streets this is a symptomatic homeless teenager on the
00:29:56.300
streets on meth for what uh no i don't have clear this is a symptomatic homeless man who's been talking to himself for about two hours downtown portland
00:30:11.300
homeless man behind me has been flashing people the last half hour
00:30:19.560
behind me is a senior citizen smoking meth he's about 72 years old
00:30:26.560
homeless man behind me without a shirt just tried to break that window
00:30:31.280
so nobody is dying in this exact moment but this right here is the deadliest block in portland
00:30:36.500
and where i've seen about 20 people die in the last year behind me is a homeless woman injecting heroin
00:30:45.760
knotted out in front of a business impossible to get in the front door there's a good 15 people on this block
00:30:53.440
about 12 are actively smoking fentanyl two people live indoors but come here for the fentanyl
00:30:59.600
one person didn't appear to be using just kind of hanging out but overall
00:31:03.080
good 95 are actively using drugs on this block in portland
00:31:06.800
all native-born whites of course a 72 year old smoking meth a 72 year old smoking meth on the street
00:31:15.760
who would tolerate that a cruel person a truly cruel and evil person would tolerate that that's not freedom
00:31:22.360
that's bondage that's murder no normal country would tolerate that for one moment
00:31:29.860
and in real countries they don't tolerate that in a downtown
00:31:34.200
they don't do that only in the west do they do that
00:31:48.440
unnatural it is so contrary to the laws of nature
00:31:52.960
it is so prima facie repulsive and mean to allow this that it cannot continue
00:32:00.220
and the fact that it has been allowed to continue tells you everything about the people in charge
00:32:06.540
and what about the citizens it's not just the leaders
00:32:19.560
we're not going to allow 72 year olds to smoke meth on the street
00:32:24.580
they wouldn't cede the moral high ground to some creep from another city
00:32:30.080
all the leaders of these cities are not from those cities
00:32:32.180
they just show up because they feel a power vacuum
00:32:37.560
after you know running for student body president
00:33:00.720
none of those people are from any of these cities either
00:33:06.080
who've shown up to take advantage of human suffering
01:02:51.840
me I agree with you right right look at if it if
01:02:58.800
Guard and J.B. Pritzker should look in the mirror
01:03:00.900
because only a year ago he actually brought in the
01:03:13.040
Convention in Chicago he was more than happy to
01:03:20.560
and work with the Chicago police to fight crime
01:03:23.200
and in our city in in a city where every single
01:03:48.880
Chicago are in the black neighborhoods or black
01:03:58.320
like Pritzker who claim to be on the side of black
01:04:21.360
politicizing a very serious issue he's standing
01:04:33.520
University of Alabama now Pritzker is sort of a
01:04:54.400
migrant problems and it's undeniable that there
01:05:05.760
estimates are that conservatively 10 percent of
01:05:08.320
those are criminals so that means we're talking
01:05:10.080
about over a million criminals that have come to
01:05:14.320
what are they they are gangsters and they're drug dealers
01:05:18.960
they're child sex traffickers they're sex offenders
01:05:23.680
and they're cold-blooded killers and it's amazing
01:05:26.560
and it's mind-boggling to me that J.B. Pritzker would choose
01:05:29.280
this issue because this this motivation is politics
01:05:32.320
he's playing to the crazy left-wing crowd in the
01:05:34.000
Democrat Party but it's really offensive and immoral
01:05:37.040
that he would do something like this and stand in the way of
01:05:41.600
actually following the law because the supremacy clause in our
01:05:45.440
constitution is very clear the federal law is supreme
01:05:49.680
over state law and he should not be resisting or
01:05:57.120
I have a confession to make Tucker when I was governor
01:06:02.640
democratic politicians because he was very wealthy
01:06:05.440
and he asked me to make him director of the Illinois Human
01:06:07.920
Rights Commission so if I'm going to confess to any crime
01:06:12.720
but the near criminal thing I did was actually hiring that guy
01:06:18.240
did he improve human rights in the state of Illinois
01:06:25.120
I worked with him too on the Holocaust Museum in Illinois
01:06:28.240
in Skokie, Illinois and at that time he seemed to be a very
01:06:30.960
reasonable guy but he's he's changed a lot I think and
01:06:35.040
I don't know if it I don't know what the what the cause is
01:06:38.320
other than he's got the desire to run for president be
01:06:41.040
president and notwithstanding President Taft and
01:06:46.560
JB is never going to be president I know the guy he's got no chance
01:06:53.440
in 1912 no that's yeah no I don't I don't think he has much of a chance
01:06:57.600
um it's it's interesting I mean you've been a governor
01:07:00.160
there aren't many people who've been governor of anything and to be governor of
01:07:07.600
of course federal dollars house seats they're dependent on how many people
01:07:11.760
live in your state and Chicago land that area has depopulated
01:07:16.880
people born in Chicago have left in amazing numbers
01:07:21.840
but the population aggregate number hasn't changed that much
01:07:28.480
so if you're it's a little bit like the Catholic Church is always promoting
01:07:31.760
immigration because they they need the the seats people in the seats um
01:07:41.280
like Chicago it's what percent of Chicago wasn't born in the United States huge
01:07:48.480
well no well that's right and and the activists in the Democratic Party
01:07:51.760
there's so many different activist groups in the Democratic Party that
01:07:54.480
push immigration rights and in those sorts of issues and
01:07:57.520
look I think you would agree I heard your your monologue and which was
01:08:01.760
profoundly interesting uh I mean most of the people that have
01:08:05.200
come to America illegally these 14 million that have crashed through our
01:08:08.640
borders because Biden basically said we don't have borders
01:08:11.920
those are good people and they're doing the work that you talked about
01:08:14.720
I agree but see they're victims and you know and you know who victimized them
01:08:18.320
it's these hypocritical Democrats when they started opening up these
01:08:21.120
sanctuary cities basically saying come on in we're getting put a sign up come on
01:08:26.320
into America don't worry about our immigration laws nobody cares and you
01:08:30.240
can come into our city and we'll protect you forget about what the federal law
01:08:33.440
might be which you don't even know anyway but it's no big deal to us come on in
01:08:37.680
and so these are well-intentioned kind-hearted probably innocent people
01:08:42.240
who want to chase the American dream like my immigrant father did when he came
01:08:46.800
over here legally after Congress passed the displaced persons act after World War II
01:08:51.200
they came here looking for an opportunity because they're committed to their
01:08:54.720
families they want to build a better life yeah and that's the great story of
01:08:57.920
America in immigration the thing that's missing is but you got to come legally
01:09:02.000
and they were invited to come here illegally by the Democrats
01:09:05.920
Biden didn't secure the borders and the Democrats opened up sanctuary cities and
01:09:11.920
and with all their rhetoric basically we're saying we're saying all these people
01:09:15.440
come up here and the reality is no country can sustain 14 million people
01:09:19.840
who are here unlawfully and what President Trump is doing is absolutely necessary to save our country
01:09:25.120
and hopefully down the road maybe there can be a way where the two parties can come together and
01:09:29.680
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01:09:33.040
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write the immigration laws i mean they were written by congress passed by congress i don't he hasn't even
01:13:30.080
signed any immigration law they have nothing to do with him they pre-exist his presidency so he's
01:13:34.800
trying to enforce existing law and they are abetting breaking that law so it does seem like
01:13:44.720
insurrection to me i mean if if a state won't obey like a core federal law like immigration law then
01:13:51.280
where does that where does that leave us honestly like how can we share a union
01:13:55.920
no your questions well uh you probably raised you know you talked about civil war and you know you
01:14:04.000
think back to the days leading up to our civil war and i'd like to think we're not even close to that
01:14:08.880
but you're right to raise it because you could see how there's this slippery slope that we're going down
01:14:13.840
and you know uh it was the defiance of federal law lincoln getting elected and different states decided
01:14:20.400
we don't want to be under that election with that president so we're leaving and before that
01:14:25.920
they were defying federal law and uh we saw what happened now you have a situation where
01:14:33.520
not only has president trump been given a mandate by the american people to do what he's doing
01:14:37.360
but you also have a situation where we know that it works when there's cooperation so the success
01:14:42.320
that president trump has had with the national guard in washington dc uh was in part because the
01:14:47.840
mayor there bowser was willing to accept that and work with him and you know they can get into
01:14:53.680
the nuances oh well that's a federal city versus a you know a city like chicago but if you're the
01:14:58.880
governor of the state of illinois or the mayor of chicago you have an obligation to your citizens to
01:15:04.400
keep them safe and the national guard coming into chicago with all the crime we have and the need to support
01:15:11.920
ice in its efforts to follow the law and do what's necessary to follow the law you would think that
01:15:18.960
a governor irrespective of party would welcome that support and thank the president and then take credit
01:15:24.800
for the success of protecting american citizens and american taxpayers but our politics has gotten so
01:15:30.720
crazy and the democratic party is such a crazy party now with the lunatic fringe becoming the mainstream
01:15:36.240
and guys who are somewhat reasonable like jb pritzker being transformed he's what he's trying to become
01:15:42.240
is basically aoc and drag okay he's trying to like get into her politics as opposed to sort of being
01:15:50.640
the bill clinton type democrat that supposedly he used to be and the democrat party doesn't seem to have
01:15:55.520
room for the bill clinton democrats anymore the jfk democrats anymore uh this is a party that's you
01:16:01.280
know been taken over by that left-wing radical fringe that is no longer the radical fringe it's now
01:16:06.080
the radical mainstream and it's a socialist communist kind of party and it's a it's a party and our
01:16:11.760
governor again that you know is basically siding with mob violence and anarchy and chaos over you
01:16:18.160
know the law the rule of law law enforcement and those who have to enforce the rule of law and that's
01:16:24.160
what this conflict is now and that's why it's a seminal moment in our history and it's why i think
01:16:28.080
president trump is going to go down probably 150 years from now because historians can't be objective
01:16:32.960
as one of our great presidents because i do believe he's going to be successful in this
01:16:36.400
and solve this problem because he has the law on his side i mean if if he doesn't solve it then
01:16:43.040
we're in for disunion ahead i mean i i don't i don't see how you can have in a state with no internal
01:16:49.120
in a country with no internal passports how you can have some states following immigration law and
01:16:54.000
others ignoring it it doesn't work i mean it just practically doesn't work so i really hope it can
01:17:00.160
be solved do you think in the democratic party which obviously you know a lot about
01:17:04.080
there are any candidates on the horizon who are reform candidates like bill clinton in 92 like okay
01:17:11.440
we went too crazy we need to pull back a little bit and reorient around america's interests who even
01:17:16.800
say words like that do you see any of those you know i think the nearest thing to that would be
01:17:22.320
senator fetterman in pennsylvania the guy that wears a hoodie yeah he seems to be sensible and willing to
01:17:27.600
find common ground to work and and support traditional things that you know that you know
01:17:32.080
that all americans have historically been for what the old democratic party used to be for so i think
01:17:37.280
there is at least one low voice in that party um you know i haven't completely written myself off as
01:17:42.880
a democrat believe it or not i mean i can't begin to tell you you know i'm a trumpocrat i i say that
01:17:47.520
openly and i'm so proud to be that and grateful to president trump personally but frankly put that
01:17:51.520
aside i think he's being he's a great president a necessary president and he's and he's doing things that
01:17:56.560
that must be done to to save our country and then make it great again first we have to save our
01:18:00.880
country um but no i you know the hatred and the vitriol on the on the far left democrat side
01:18:08.160
is palpable i live in a neighborhood you know that used to vote for me a lot and uh i was out on the
01:18:14.400
street the other day tucker i came back from downtown chicago and some guy clearly he was a man he was
01:18:20.240
muscular and i think he was a man muscular and then he had long hair but he had a beard a full beard
01:18:26.160
but what threw me was he was wearing a dress and combat boots and he walked by and he took you
01:18:31.520
know took a double take recognized it was me then he gives me the finger and uh my first reaction was
01:18:37.200
okay you know a guy like that gives me the finger i'm gonna you know probably give him an f you or give
01:18:40.880
him the finger back but then i wasn't sure whether it was a man or a woman and i'm trying not to swear
01:18:44.480
at women so i had to hold my tongue but that's sort of the element that's now a large loud voice within
01:18:51.600
the democratic party and thank you for the work that you're doing is because i love our country
01:18:55.840
and i was saying what my government's done to me i love my country i've lived the american dream myself
01:19:00.240
there's no place like america and this is the last best hope best hope on earth as lincoln said a true
01:19:05.680
and a great illinoisan um but thank you for the work that you're doing because i still i believe and i
01:19:10.640
know you do too that that forgotten american the great vast silent majority that nixon talked about
01:19:15.520
and and and changed american politics it still exists it's what elected trump last november people
01:19:22.240
with common sense believe in god love our country don't burn the flag don't like people who burn the
01:19:29.040
flag you know believe in the traditional values of our country they still make up most of the americans
01:19:34.880
and i still believe actually most of rank-and-file democratic voters if those democrat voters can get
01:19:40.880
over the fact that they've been lifelong democrats because it's hard to you know change your
01:19:44.960
love for your team they can get over that and they are they're increasingly going to leave the
01:19:49.680
democratic party as they're doing and that democrat party is going to increasingly become a party of
01:19:54.800
crazy left-wingers and whoever gets the nomination whoever the republic candidate is against them in two
01:19:59.280
years um i think he's gonna have a long hard chance hard time to be able to win i think our country
01:20:04.880
is waking up and i think president trump has been at the vanguard of that and um i'm not the only
01:20:09.920
trump book right out there democrat for trump you're definitely the most articulate rod bogojevich
01:20:15.680
thank you so much for joining us i really appreciate it good to talk to you again tucker thank you great
01:20:20.880
talk to you thank you and thanks for joining us tonight as the fourth installment of our live
01:20:26.560
experiment continues we'll be back next wednesday at 6 eastern thanks a lot
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