The Tucker Carlson Show - Israel’s Sinister Agenda to Use the U.S. Military to Defy Trump’s Plan for Peace With Clayton Morris

00:00:00.000 Well, in between the Super Bowl halftime show and Epstein and the Winter Olympics, most Americans probably weren't aware that we are on the verge of a massive regional war in the Middle East, if not a third world war.

00:00:12.040 We are. The largest movement of American military hardware is since 2003, the Iraq invasion, is now in or steaming toward the Persian Gulf off Iran, preparatory to what could be the aforementioned war.

00:00:33.260 Now, most people, once again, probably didn't know this. Those who did know it weren't for it.

00:00:39.340 Recent polls on this question, are you for a war with Iran? It's about one in five Americans support it.

00:00:46.380 The rest are probably asking, war with Iran? Why would we have a war with Iran? They said no idea.

00:00:51.300 The president did address it last night in a State of the Union and at a press conference.

00:00:55.880 And he said in public what he basically says in private, Trump being one of those rare public figures who's pretty much the same behind closed doors as he is on stage, says pretty much the same stuff.

00:01:07.940 It's a little funnier in private, but basically he's not a different guy. He's the same guy.

00:01:12.160 And he's been saying the same thing about Iran for a long time. Really two things.

00:01:16.680 One, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. He says it again and again. He really means it.

00:01:22.840 That's not a talking point. It's completely sincere. And two, I would prefer a negotiated settlement.

00:01:28.420 I would prefer peace rather than war. And that's obviously true.

00:01:33.200 So to bottom line, where we are right now at the end of February 2026 on this looming Iran war, seems likely. 0.95

00:01:42.660 I have all those aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf, planes ready, missiles ready.

00:01:46.860 But it's not certain because the president hasn't decided to do it.

00:01:50.940 And you may not get that impression either from watching the news.

00:01:55.760 There is the sense that it's inevitable. And that's kind of a psyop actually designed to make you think there's nothing you can do about it.

00:02:02.040 No, Trump has not decided to do this again. Seems likely all the momentum is in that direction.

00:02:07.220 But the president's the sole decider on this question.

00:02:11.160 He's the commander in chief and he's showing no obvious signs of enthusiasm.

00:02:15.240 And why would he? There are a lot of reasons not to do this.

00:02:20.020 The first being the one just mentioned, which is most Americans don't want it.

00:02:24.520 And though it's not a direct democracy, it's a form of democracy.

00:02:27.120 And you probably shouldn't commit history changing acts without the support of your people.

00:02:31.640 And Trump feels that way.

00:02:32.820 This is someone who pays very close attention to, say, TV ratings.

00:02:36.760 Why is that? Not just because he worked in TV, but because he thinks they're a pretty good measure of what people are interested in.

00:02:41.540 He cares about what people think.

00:02:43.860 And he's willing to listen to almost anybody.

00:02:46.700 So that's a good reason not to do it.

00:02:49.620 The public's not behind you.

00:02:51.420 Maybe you've got great reasons to do it that they don't know about yet.

00:02:54.960 But we haven't heard those and the president hasn't really explained them other than to say Iran is bad.

00:03:00.720 Yes, that's been the official U.S. position since 1979.

00:03:04.220 Iran can have nukes.

00:03:05.420 That's always been the president's position.

00:03:08.220 And we would like some kind of settlement.

00:03:10.860 The reason he's not eager to start this war is because he, in general, isn't eager to start wars.

00:03:17.240 Hasn't been anyway.

00:03:18.800 But because this would be a particularly tough war.

00:03:21.560 This is the largest buildup since the Iraq war, but Iran is not Iraq.

00:03:27.440 It's much, much, much bigger and much more technologically advanced.

00:03:33.040 The population of Iran is about 92 million.

00:03:36.320 In 2003, almost exactly 23 years ago when we rolled into Baghdad, the population of Iraq was 25 million.

00:03:44.540 So Iran is more than three times bigger. 0.96

00:03:47.860 The landmass of Iran is multiple, six times bigger.

00:03:50.760 However, it's huge.

00:03:52.140 It's a huge, pretty advanced country compared to Iraq.

00:03:56.980 So that's a problem right there.

00:03:58.960 This is a serious thing to start a war with a real country. 0.91

00:04:02.600 Are we in a position to do that?

00:04:04.320 Well, there's some debate about that.

00:04:06.820 The U.S. military performs in a remarkable way under certain circumstances.

00:04:11.220 But is the U.S. military right now ready for a prolonged conflict with a big country?

00:04:16.040 Hmm.

00:04:17.040 No, it turns out.

00:04:19.380 And these are facts taken from open source material that have been published.

00:04:23.500 They're on the internet.

00:04:24.080 You can look it up.

00:04:24.820 None of this is classified.

00:04:25.980 This is all out there.

00:04:27.140 But current estimates suggest that the United States is so low on some munitions, partly because we've used them in the defense of Israel already in the last 12 months.

00:04:38.180 But whatever the cause, the United States is so low on certain kinds of munitions that were we to have even a brief but intense engagement with Iran, our military would not be ready for like 10 years to fight a real war against a peer or near-peer adversary.

00:04:57.940 So out the window would go any hope of defending Taiwan, whether or not it's a good idea is kind of up to you to decide.

00:05:06.100 But that would not even be on the table because we wouldn't be able to.

00:05:09.060 We would be much weakened by this because we don't have the stockpiles and we don't have the necessary industrial capacity to replace them quickly.

00:05:19.100 So we are not in a position to have a lengthy engagement.

00:05:23.460 And everyone at the Pentagon who's gaming this out understands that.

00:05:27.620 And again, this has been reported publicly, though, not necessarily in The New York Times or The Washington Post, at least not on the front page, but it's widely known.

00:05:38.320 So it'd be a tough war.

00:05:39.540 We're not in a great place to fight it right now.

00:05:43.360 And the potential downsides are absolutely real.

00:05:48.240 Lots of things could happen.

00:05:49.620 There are tens of thousands of Americans in the region, of course, in uniform and out.

00:05:54.220 They could be hurt or killed.

00:05:55.400 And there's Israel, our ally, which is probably a little more vulnerable than we pretend it is to conventional attacks from ballistic missiles.

00:06:03.420 Do the math on how many missiles Iran is believed to have versus how many anti-ballistic missiles Israel has or we have to defend Israel.

00:06:15.240 They could be in trouble.

00:06:16.220 And then there's a question of what happens to Iran.

00:06:21.440 Like, does it fall apart?

00:06:24.000 Does it disintegrate as a country?

00:06:26.080 To be clear, as if tonight, there is no Israeli plan for what comes the day after we depose the Ayatollah, knock out the leadership of the country.

00:06:35.740 What happens then?

00:06:37.400 You're going to put in the former king's son or something?

00:06:40.280 No one believes that's real.

00:06:42.920 Will the country hang together with Pahlavi on the throne?

00:06:47.200 Come on.

00:06:48.440 No one is thinking this through because the people pushing this clearly don't care what happens after.

00:06:54.960 The point is to take out Iran as a coherent country, not to protect Israel, 0.97

00:07:01.340 but in order to sweep Iran aside as a regional rival.

00:07:07.360 Once Iran is gone, there's no question as to who controls the Middle East. 0.98

00:07:11.860 It, of course, would be the only nuclear-armed power in the Middle East, Israel. 0.67

00:07:15.180 Period.

00:07:15.860 That's the reason.

00:07:17.380 The problem is, if the country were to disintegrate, the downstream effects would be profound for everybody else.

00:07:23.620 You would likely have refugee crises.

00:07:25.620 Where would they go?

00:07:26.320 Well, Europe.

00:07:28.520 They haven't enough refugees. 1.00

00:07:29.920 They might go right across the water to Qatar or UAE.

00:07:35.560 Oh, that could be a huge, huge problem.

00:07:41.920 So why would they push for this? 1.00

00:07:45.500 Well, you have to think that the people pushing for this are not stupid. 0.99

00:07:50.260 They've thought through the consequences. 0.99

00:07:52.580 Let's say the United States attacks Iran. 0.83

00:07:57.080 Maybe Iran just says, you know, you're absolutely right. 0.96

00:07:59.120 We're evil.

00:07:59.760 We're rolling over. 0.99

00:08:00.780 Everybody in charge is going to retire, commit ritual suicide. 0.98

00:08:04.500 We're going to turn it over to some Western Democrat who brings in pro-choice politics and gay marriage. 0.98

00:08:11.820 And, like, we're cool.

00:08:12.680 We're going to join NATO at that point.

00:08:13.740 That's great.

00:08:14.100 But what if Iran decides better to die on your feet than on your knees and just unleashes its conventional arsenal against American assets in the region, against Israel, and, critically, against energy infrastructure in the Gulf? 0.66

00:08:31.100 What would happen then?

00:08:33.360 Well, you would see a global depression if they did that, if they were successful in doing that.

00:08:37.340 If the extraction facilities and refineries and petrochemical plants in the Gulf were disabled, how expensive would oil be per barrel?

00:08:47.460 How much would gasoline cost?

00:08:49.360 What would steel go for?

00:08:50.800 What would happen to liquefied natural gas, which goes to both Europe and China?

00:08:56.420 What would happen to Europe if you disrupted the flow of LNG from the Gulf to Europe?

00:09:02.440 What would happen if you closed the Straits of Hormuz?

00:09:04.560 The choke point at the end of the Persian Gulf, whew, I mean, wouldn't destroy the world forever, probably, but it would tank the economy in the meantime, for sure.

00:09:17.240 And who would suffer most?

00:09:19.680 Well, let's see.

00:09:20.920 The Gulf states, Europe, and the United States.

00:09:24.360 It's kind of weird that anybody, especially an ally, would push for a conflict that's almost guaranteed to hurt its so-called allies.

00:09:35.960 Why would you do that?

00:09:38.080 You can tell me you love me, but if you're encouraging me to commit suicide, you're probably lying.

00:09:44.000 It's possible that we should judge people's intentions by the effects of what they do, not by their own description of their motive.

00:09:57.220 Is it possible that there is some hostility toward the United States, the Gulf states, and Europe from the people pushing this war?

00:10:08.240 Oh, there's a lot of hostility.

00:10:10.400 And part of it makes sense.

00:10:11.880 Because the Gulf states, the six Arab oil-producing states, called the GCC in the region, are, along with Iran, one of the main impediments to Israel's regional hegemony.

00:10:25.400 They are very rich.

00:10:27.800 They produce something that the rest of the world needs.

00:10:30.280 They're also very good at diplomacy, particularly Qatar.

00:10:33.240 They settle a lot of disputes internationally.

00:10:35.480 They've posited themselves as the Switzerland of the Middle East, and they've done a good job at it, actually. 0.99

00:10:39.440 And so they are a rival to Israel. 0.92

00:10:43.360 You hear on Fox News, they're Hamas supporters.

00:10:45.620 No, no, no.

00:10:46.160 That's not their sin.

00:10:47.640 Their sin is existing as a powerful independent country in potential rivalry with the regional hegemon Israel. 0.80

00:10:57.540 So shafting them would be a very good thing from the Israeli perspective. 1.00

00:11:02.040 But what about the United States, Israel's benefactor, its closest ally?

00:11:07.360 Hmm, why would they want that?

00:11:10.140 Well, maybe if you're gaming this out a little bit, you've decided we need a new superpower.

00:11:15.820 Public opinion in this country has swung against us so hard.

00:11:20.080 This bipartisan consensus that we're its closest ally is disintegrating before our very eyes.

00:11:26.100 And let's be honest with ourselves.

00:11:27.400 This is not going to continue forever.

00:11:29.980 We need another country to be aligned with.

00:11:32.860 Now, how many big countries are there to choose from?

00:11:35.900 It's got to be physically large, big population, nuclear armed.

00:11:40.960 Not too many.

00:11:42.340 In fact, the big ones would be China and India.

00:11:45.460 But China, unfortunately, is a Han ethnostate. 0.90

00:11:50.420 So you can't really turn its population against itself in order to increase your own power.

00:11:55.260 It's not going to work.

00:11:56.000 It's resistant to this, to manipulation.

00:11:58.280 And that leaves India. 0.95

00:12:00.420 And it was probably no coincidence that the prime minister of India, Prime Minister Modi, spoke to Knesset today about the ancient ties between Israel and India.

00:12:12.540 Bottom line, yes, Israel is moving on from the United States at some point, probably sooner rather than later, to India.

00:12:21.640 And so weakening the United States in a war with Iran is not all bad. 0.97

00:12:26.320 In fact, it might be good.

00:12:28.640 Because then there's no rivalry at all in your region.

00:12:31.940 It's you, the only country with nuclear weapons, and everybody else.

00:12:38.480 So you can kind of do whatever you want.

00:12:40.700 You don't have to worry about hostile neighbors.

00:12:43.940 You can expand the size of your territory, for example.

00:12:47.740 You can move your borders in all directions.

00:12:49.760 Who's going to stop you?

00:12:51.000 No one.

00:12:52.500 So if you game this out for a minute, the things that, from an American perspective, seem horrifying, like real downsides.

00:13:00.120 Holy smokes, we could tank the U.S. economy.

00:13:02.800 We could wreck the energy sector, at least temporarily.

00:13:06.360 Some of our key Arab allies could be disabled by this.

00:13:10.040 Those all seem very bad from an American perspective.

00:13:13.780 Are they so bad from an Israeli perspective? 1.00

00:13:16.200 No, they're not, actually.

00:13:18.180 They may be the point long term.

00:13:20.880 So where does this leave our president, President Trump?

00:13:24.060 Well, it leaves him where he began, which is very resistant to start big new wars.

00:13:28.780 He, of course, ran for president both times, all three times, on the promise that he wouldn't do that.

00:13:34.940 And he very famously, in the 2016 campaign, attacked Jeb Bush because of his brother's invasion of Iraq. 1.00

00:13:40.560 That was idiotic, he said. 1.00

00:13:41.780 And, of course, he was right. 1.00

00:13:43.240 And 23 years later, we know exactly how right he was.

00:13:46.120 That war, which lasted 20 years, waged on behalf of our ally Israel, didn't help the United States.

00:13:53.580 It helped to impoverish the United States and sink this country deeper into debt, to weaken the dollar and destroy a generation of young men.

00:14:03.720 Mostly from the flyover states, the most decent and patriotic among us, destroyed.

00:14:09.960 So from an American perspective, Iraq was a true disaster, and Trump was the first big political candidate to say that out loud.

00:14:17.580 He knows this.

00:14:18.540 He always has.

00:14:19.820 So why would he even be considering a war with Iran?

00:14:24.140 Well, one way to think about it is the United States may not have a choice about whether or not this war starts.

00:14:31.740 Because, of course, the government of Benjamin Netanyahu could always act unilaterally, preemptively, against Iran and just do it. 0.66

00:14:39.100 Just strike Iran. 1.00

00:14:40.280 What would happen then?

00:14:41.940 Well, most likely, the Iranians would strike Israel and then potentially strike American assets in the Gulf and then potentially strike energy facilities in the Gulf. 0.97

00:14:49.860 And the United States would be, by definition, drawn in. 0.66

00:14:52.820 So it's possible that the U.S. government, while not anxious to go to war with Iran, is trying to find a way to contain the behavior of its closest ally, Israel. 0.62

00:15:08.000 Rather than sit back and wait for Bibi to do something that we have to clean up, that we're implicated in and then sucked into, it's possible that the U.S. government is attempting to steer this in a less destructive direction. 0.64

00:15:24.340 It's possible.

00:15:25.180 None of this, of course, is filtered down to people paying attention because the few who are paying attention to this, because all the noise has been about Iran's nuclear weapons.

00:15:38.000 They're on the verge of building a nuclear weapon any day now.

00:15:41.360 Now, if you're semi-awake, you may remember that it was only about eight months ago, back in June of last year, during the short but hot 12-day war against Iran, that the United States took out nuclear processing facilities deep underground and then announced we have ended the Iranian nuclear threat.

00:16:03.080 And then without you noticing, well, you were on summer vacation or going to your kids' graduation or bringing them back to school or watching the Super Bowl halftime show with your jaw slack, well, you were not tuned in.

00:16:15.900 All of a sudden, that threat out of nowhere reemerged.

00:16:19.320 And there's Benjamin Netanyahu on television or at the White House for a seventh time in a single year making the case that we're right on the verge of a nuclear holocaust.

00:16:28.460 Any day now, the Iranian government will have a nuclear weapon.

00:16:34.860 And by the way, as noted, the president does not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

00:16:40.560 That is one thing that he takes very, very seriously.

00:16:42.300 And he said that to the Iranians.

00:16:43.560 And unfortunately, it turns out, whatever sides you're on, the current Iranian government is very hard to deal with.

00:16:51.840 They're disorganized.

00:16:53.620 The head guy is 87 years old.

00:16:55.400 There's almost no communication directly between the governments.

00:16:59.500 The supreme leader in Iran has never had a single phone call with the president of the United States.

00:17:06.140 It's unclear exactly who's in charge.

00:17:08.300 There are all kinds of factions.

00:17:09.740 I mean, it's a nightmare.

00:17:11.920 So the only people who've really been out there speaking in public about Iran's nuclear program basically are Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel, and his many accolades and paid shills in the United States.

00:17:29.080 You may have seen this tape before, but in case you haven't, it's worth watching again, because it reminds us that Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying exactly the same thing about Iran.

00:17:38.620 They're actually going to have a nuclear weapon any minute since at least 1996.

00:17:45.920 30 years.

00:17:47.860 Here it is.

00:17:48.420 Now they're well into the second stage, and by next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage.

00:18:05.560 From there, it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before they get enough enriched uranium for the first bomb.

00:18:15.480 You talk about a network of terror.

00:18:17.680 Are there any other nations that you would recommend that the United States launch preemptive attacks upon at this point?

00:18:24.240 No, the issue is not, the issue is not, first of all, are there other nations that are developing nuclear weapons?

00:18:31.020 Yes.

00:18:31.560 Should we launch any other preemptive attacks?

00:18:34.000 First, let me say what they are, and then let me make a suggestion on how to proceed.

00:18:36.960 Thank you.

00:18:37.680 The answer is categorically yes.

00:18:39.760 The two nations that are vying, competing with each other, who will be the first to achieve nuclear weapons is Iraq and Iran.

00:18:47.060 And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years.

00:18:57.740 The most dangerous of these regimes is Iran, that has wed a cruel despotism to a fanatic militancy. 0.71

00:19:06.120 If this regime or its despotic neighbor, Iraq, were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country and not only for the Middle East, but for all of mankind. 0.98

00:19:24.040 I believe that only the United States can lead this vital international effort to stop the nuclearization of terrorist states. 0.88

00:19:32.340 But the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.

00:19:37.200 You can see why the government of Israel has such contempt for the United States, while they're totally happy to tank our economy, stretch our military to its limit, degrade us in public. 0.93

00:19:49.840 Why?

00:19:50.560 Because our leaders put up with this.

00:19:52.800 Some foreigner shows up in our capital every year for 30 years telling the same lies. 0.97

00:19:59.120 And everyone in there just nods along all 535.

00:20:03.080 Oh, really?

00:20:03.720 Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon.

00:20:06.040 I ran into a senator the other day.

00:20:07.740 It was like, Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon.

00:20:09.560 I mean, they believe it. 1.00

00:20:11.080 How could you have respect for people who believe something that dumb? 0.99

00:20:14.960 Well, you couldn't, and they don't. 0.99

00:20:17.560 And by the way, it's not just the claim that Iran is seconds away from a nuclear weapon that they're recycling here. 0.56

00:20:23.420 It's maybe the oldest lie in American foreign policy you heard in those clips, too, which is, we need to do this because it's a despotic regime that is oppressing its own people.

00:20:37.420 Now, this line is older than you may know.

00:20:41.460 And the reason it's so distressing, it's so cynical, is because it plays upon Americans' best quality, which is decency.

00:20:53.320 Americans hate despotism.

00:20:55.320 They believe freedom is granted them and all people by God.

00:21:00.100 And so a regime that oppresses its own people is inherently illegitimate.

00:21:04.720 Americans are born believing that, and God willing, they always will believe that because it's true. 0.99

00:21:08.520 So if you're trying to sell an illegitimate war, wage for reasons that had nothing to do with human rights at all, you would use that line, wouldn't you? 0.54

00:21:19.820 Probably.

00:21:20.740 Well, American policymakers have used that line, and we pulled some.

00:21:24.840 You want to hear some?

00:21:26.300 This is – I'm going to get my glasses, which I've dropped.

00:21:30.260 Excuse me.

00:21:30.960 We pulled this, and this actually made me laugh out loud.

00:21:33.900 So this goes back, well, 61 years.

00:21:36.820 Here's Lyndon Johnson, 1965, in a speech at Johns Hopkins, explaining that the war in Vietnam, which was just getting intense then, so three years from Tet, from the height, he said this.

00:21:50.320 Tonight, Americans and Asians are dying for a world where each people may choose its own path to change.

00:21:57.300 So really, we're doing this for the Vietnamese people.

00:21:59.960 Okay, now.

00:22:00.660 Then Bush, George W. Bush, son of George H.W. Bush, said this right before the Iraq war started, and we're quoting,

00:22:08.300 We have no ambition in Iraq except to remove a threat and restore control of that country to its own people. 1.00

00:22:16.740 Right.

00:22:17.660 We did that for human rights reasons.

00:22:19.640 We just wanted democracy in Iraq.

00:22:22.080 Did that happen?

00:22:23.020 The Christian population was annihilated?

00:22:24.720 Hundreds of thousands of people died, and political control was turned over to the Ayatollahs in Iran.

00:22:30.940 Hmm, no.

00:22:32.460 But he said it anyway, and so did Dick Cheney, by the way.

00:22:35.700 My belief, he said, in the lead-up to the Iraq war, is that we will be greeted as liberators.

00:22:40.860 The vast majority of Iraqis would respond favorably to an effort to rid the country of Saddam's regime.

00:22:46.440 Well, someone who happened to be in Baghdad in December of 2003, the day we caught Saddam at Decreet, I can attest to what you already know, which is that's where the insurrection started.

00:22:59.040 But Barack Obama, even, three years after getting elected president, having been thoroughly briefed on how to lie, in 2011, said this about the bombing of Libya and the murder of our sometime ally and CIA asset, Muammar Gaddafi.

00:23:17.900 Quote, this is a plea for help from the Libyan people themselves.

00:23:22.700 They're desperate for it.

00:23:24.040 Regime change in Libya, said Barack Obama, would serve America's, quote, broader goal of a Libya that belongs not to a dictator, but to its people.

00:23:36.320 I mean, what can you do but laugh?

00:23:38.860 It's so absurd.

00:23:41.220 It's such an obvious lie.

00:23:42.820 It's like Bibi Netanyahu saying, they're minutes away.

00:23:45.100 Hey, as long as people believe this or are so polite they pretend to believe it, politicians will keep telling the same lies.

00:23:56.640 You have to make them pick a new lie.

00:24:00.360 Now, what's interesting is that the administration, I think to its credit, hasn't done a ton of this.

00:24:06.800 There's been, you know, the, oh, we feel bad for the billion Iranians murdered in the streets of Tehran or some whatever.

00:24:13.880 Who knows what the number is?

00:24:14.860 You can't believe any number connected to any conflict in any country ever because everyone lies about them all the time.

00:24:20.320 But some number of Iranians protesting the Iranian government apparently were killed by the government.

00:24:27.360 And we feel bad about that.

00:24:29.020 And we legitimately do feel bad about that.

00:24:31.140 Is that a good reason to topple the existing power structure and just let the country devolve into whatever happens next? 0.86

00:24:38.000 Probably not.

00:24:39.320 And the administration hasn't really made that case or really any case other than they can't have nuclear weapons.

00:24:45.000 So you can at least feel satisfied that they're not trying very hard to lie to you.

00:24:51.320 They're basically just saying, looks like we could have a war.

00:24:53.980 Because everybody knows the only reason we're having this war is because Israel wants it. 0.98

00:25:00.660 This is their last chance, they believe.

00:25:03.580 This presidency is the last presidency where they're going to have unequivocal bipartisan support.

00:25:10.000 Period.

00:25:11.640 You can't primary every Thomas Massey and there's a whole army of them coming at some point because everyone can see what's going on.

00:25:17.160 And you can shut down X and you can shut down the internet and you can be like Great Britain and arrest people who protest Israel.

00:25:24.320 But attitudes are not going to revert to what they were five years ago.

00:25:27.380 Sorry.

00:25:27.780 And they know this.

00:25:28.960 So this is their last chance.

00:25:31.320 What's so amazing is that Israel, which at least is acting in what it perceives to be its own national interest, is joined by its shills in the United States, of course. 0.95

00:25:42.980 But really, its only other ally in this is the American news media, whose job it is to tell you the truth and inform you as to what's happening, to tell you, hey, wake up.

00:25:54.060 The world could be changing and it's going to affect you and your family.

00:25:57.240 That's their job.

00:25:59.060 And instead, they've been lulling you to sleep with the same variety of transparent lies and propaganda.

00:26:06.140 And so just for fun, we decided we would pick a cross-section and not just from a liberal media or right-wing media, but from all media, because it's not a left-right question.

00:26:18.020 Chuck Schumer is every bit as much in favor of an invasion of Iran, a regime change war in Iran, as, I don't know, pick a brain-dead Republican senator, which is almost all of them.

00:26:30.020 They're all for it, and so are all the Democrats.

00:26:33.460 You don't see Alexandria Cazio-Cortez making a real case against it. 0.99

00:26:37.920 She's like a pro forma case because she knows that all of her constituents hate it. 0.99

00:26:42.140 But is she really working to stop this?

00:26:43.760 Of course not.

00:26:45.160 Because they're all for it.

00:26:46.100 Because they're paid to be for it.

00:26:48.080 And so are the media.

00:26:49.540 So here's a quick cross-section.

00:26:51.740 Now, it goes without saying that the Wall Street Journal, owned by the Murdoch family, has been by far the most egregious and the most stealthy, because starting new regime change wars on behalf of Israel is, like, the whole reason to have the Wall Street Journal now, apparently.

00:27:09.120 But here's just a few headlines.

00:27:11.740 The diminishing risk of an Iran attack.

00:27:14.460 Quote, two years ago, there was a strong possibility the region would spiral out of control.

00:27:18.860 Not anymore.

00:27:20.660 Really?

00:27:21.020 Oh, really?

00:27:22.380 What is the plan the day after we depose or kill the 87-year-old Supreme Leader or President Pazeshkian?

00:27:30.880 What's the plan?

00:27:31.580 Do you have a plan?

00:27:32.240 No plan.

00:27:33.140 But don't worry.

00:27:33.980 It will not spiral out of control.

00:27:35.160 The Wall Street Journal assures you of that.

00:27:36.940 Here's another.

00:27:38.260 A fractured Iran might not be so bad. 0.99

00:27:40.120 Well, yeah, it could spiral out of control and break into different provinces.

00:27:43.260 And, you know, it could become Libya or Syria or Lebanon.

00:27:47.220 That's not so bad.

00:27:48.600 Because you know why?

00:27:49.260 Quote, its borders are open.

00:27:51.020 They're artificial.

00:27:51.700 Oh, they're fake!

00:27:53.420 And a breakup would frustrate the interests of China, Russia, and others.

00:27:58.740 Okay.

00:27:59.380 So our global rivals wouldn't like it.

00:28:01.960 Therefore, it's good.

00:28:02.680 And, quote, its borders are artificial.

00:28:04.320 As compared to whose borders?

00:28:06.460 All borders are artificial.

00:28:08.980 God didn't draw them.

00:28:10.100 Sorry, Mike Huckabee.

00:28:11.540 They're drawn by people.

00:28:13.440 Artificial.

00:28:15.760 What?

00:28:16.200 No, it's a country.

00:28:17.200 No, it's a country.

00:28:18.540 Has been for a while.

00:28:20.920 And if you blow it up into constituent parts and inside a civil war, there are going to be downstream effects of that.

00:28:28.900 Again, like refugee crises into Europe and the Gulf states, probably the United States, too.

00:28:35.120 Since it is the iron law of American foreign policy that once you start bombing people, you have to let all their angry kids into your country. 0.98

00:28:42.560 And that's how, by the way, we got the Boston Marathon bombing and many other acts of terror.

00:28:47.320 Thanks, neocons.

00:28:48.480 And then there's this.

00:28:49.320 John Bolton still exists, writing for the Wall Street Journal.

00:28:53.440 The Gaza ceasefire has diverted Western attention from the real threat, Tehran and its surrogates. 0.99

00:29:02.320 You'd really have to be John Bolton to think that Tehran and its surrogates are even in the top hundred issues Americans are worried about at the moment. 0.82

00:29:10.620 They're not.

00:29:11.080 But this is knowable.

00:29:13.080 It's polled all the time by Gallup and others.

00:29:16.400 Tehran and its surrogates are admittedly an issue of concern to Israel and to its shills here. 0.56

00:29:23.340 But they're not actually a problem for a continent-sized country separated from the world by two great oceans.

00:29:30.900 Not a problem.

00:29:32.320 As long as you don't, like, start a war with Iran or something.

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00:31:56.980 But here is the greatest offender maybe of all, and that would be the New York Post,

00:32:01.640 the scrappy New York tabloid famed for its rollicking crime headlines,

00:32:07.220 Headless Body and Topless Bar.

00:32:09.140 It's a hilarious newspaper.

00:32:10.760 Always has been.

00:32:12.680 Up until two years ago when Lachlan Murdoch took full control of it,

00:32:15.460 and now it's like commentary.

00:32:20.060 It's like any other publication from a neocon think tank in Washington.

00:32:24.300 It's just advocating for war and lying to you in order to get you to support it.

00:32:29.000 So here's just a quick selection from the New York Post.

00:32:31.700 Memo to President Trump.

00:32:33.080 Don't miss this historic moment to strike Iran and end its terror regime. 0.98

00:32:38.100 This historic moment.

00:32:41.280 Iran's rulers plainly fear U.S. strikes.

00:32:43.960 Trump should prove them right.

00:32:47.140 Mr. President, you're so strong and dangerous.

00:32:50.040 You have a chance to prove that.

00:32:51.700 They fear you.

00:32:54.020 Memo to self.

00:32:55.680 Never accept flattery uncritically because it is deeply subversive.

00:33:00.800 Attacks are straightforward.

00:33:02.300 Flattery is reptilian.

00:33:05.040 Flattery is the true danger.

00:33:06.460 Oh, President Trump, you're so strong.

00:33:07.960 They're afraid of you. 1.00

00:33:08.800 Prove them right by killing them. 1.00

00:33:10.400 And then if Trump doesn't strike a run now, history will never forgive him. 0.99

00:33:17.380 If you don't have a war with Iran, history will never forgive you. 0.83

00:33:21.460 Probably depends on who writes that history.

00:33:24.840 But hundreds of millions of Americans will forgive you.

00:33:27.380 They'll be grateful to you for pulling us back from the brink of something we don't need and don't want.

00:33:31.320 And then last, of course, Douglas Murray, the eminent historian.

00:33:36.060 Everyone respects Douglas Murray.

00:33:38.260 He's got a British accent.

00:33:40.360 He's not being paid to say this.

00:33:41.860 Don't worry.

00:33:43.000 Trump has a chance to end Khomeini's reign of terror in Iran. 0.89

00:33:47.500 His reign of terror.

00:33:48.900 Because if there's one thing Douglas is concerned about, it's human rights in Iran.

00:33:53.060 He's been there.

00:33:53.940 And now to the New York Times.

00:33:57.140 And this is interesting if you're a right-winger because the New York Times is, of course, like the most liberal publication in the world.

00:34:03.680 It's NPR on paper.

00:34:06.040 It's totally different from, say, Fox News.

00:34:08.420 It's like they're polls apart.

00:34:11.040 They have nothing in common whatsoever.

00:34:12.520 Except on a few questions like immigration and war and the basis of our economy, which is finance and real estate, the banks.

00:34:25.460 Except on those issues, there's some overlap.

00:34:27.500 Okay, there's vigorous consensus.

00:34:29.860 In other words, except on the issues that actually matter, that drive history, that determine whether or not your children thrive in this country or not.

00:34:36.200 On those issues, they're one and the same. 0.68

00:34:38.520 And so here's a section.

00:34:40.740 We'll put this one up on the screen because it's so amusing.

00:34:43.260 Here's Mr. Brett Stevens.

00:34:45.460 Three different pieces he's written on this question.

00:34:47.600 He's obviously a man with a great deal of credibility and authority on regime change wars, having advocated for all of them, none of which has worked.

00:34:56.920 The case for striking Iran. 0.99

00:34:58.920 Can we let Iran get away with mass murder? 1.00

00:35:04.020 Israel had the courage to do what needed to be done.

00:35:06.640 The case for overthrowing Maduro.

00:35:10.600 The Syria opportunity.

00:35:12.780 We absolutely need to escalate in Iran. 0.96

00:35:15.240 And then my personal favorite from 2023, 20 years later, quote, 20 years on, I don't regret supporting the Iraq war. 0.84

00:35:23.080 Okay.

00:35:24.300 Should you be admitting that?

00:35:27.320 20 years later, I am not ashamed to wear women's underwear.

00:35:31.120 Well, actually, you should be ashamed.

00:35:34.020 You should be embarrassed.

00:35:35.300 If you don't regret supporting the Iraq war, if that support occasioned no soul searching in you, then you, my friend, have a spiritual problem.

00:35:46.640 All of us make mistakes. 0.94

00:35:48.040 All of us support dumb things. 0.96

00:35:49.480 As someone who supported the Iraq war, I can attest to that personally. 0.93

00:35:52.460 So the acid test is not do you make mistakes.

00:35:55.940 The acid test is do you admit that you did and do you apologize?

00:36:00.000 But if you refuse to do either one of those things and instead 20 years later are still bragging about the greatest disaster in modern American history as if it's a badge of honor, hard to know if we have anything in common as people.

00:36:10.420 Because that's contemptible because that's contemptible and scary.

00:36:13.880 It's never occurred to you the Iraq war was a mistake. 0.68

00:36:16.200 Really?

00:36:16.440 On what basis was it a success?

00:36:18.120 Hmm.

00:36:18.840 So if that's really your view, maybe we shouldn't trust you when you tell us that we have a moral obligation to attack Iran. 0.55

00:36:25.220 Just throwing that out there.

00:36:26.180 So that's where the print media are.

00:36:29.680 But let's be honest.

00:36:31.940 It's not really the print media who are driving this because this is a Republican administration.

00:36:38.460 And as everyone knows, Republicans have one main news source, and that's Fox News.

00:36:43.880 I have some familiarity with the product.

00:36:46.380 And I can say that even as Fox News's reach and power and influence have diminished greatly, mostly due to technological changes.

00:36:54.860 People go on the Internet.

00:36:55.840 They don't pay for cable.

00:36:57.440 But as it has diminished, it has not broken the stranglehold that Fox has over Republicans in Washington.

00:37:04.000 They watch Fox.

00:37:04.660 They want to go on Fox.

00:37:06.160 And so Fox has really driven this war, and if it occurs, you can thank Fox, more than any other media organization, more than any other lobbyist, more honestly than any government, more than the government of Israel.

00:37:19.280 Fox News has pushed for this war.

00:37:21.800 However, its owners personally have pushed for it, personally, and, of course, its employees on the channel have pushed for it with such aggression and unanimity that, as of tonight, there is not a single on-air Fox personality who is going to question going to war with Iran.

00:37:41.880 There are some who may have reservations.

00:37:45.300 There was one on a weekend show who very bravely spoke up and said, is this a good idea?

00:37:50.700 That was the last time this topic was discussed on that weekend show.

00:37:54.560 Because the order has gone down to Fox employees, we are in favor of this war.

00:37:59.240 And that is very obvious if you watch it.

00:38:05.560 Now, one of the main cheerleaders for an invasion of Iraq and every other invasion and every other instance of shedding of human blood, just a killing in general, would, of course, be Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. 0.99

00:38:21.060 Now, if you don't watch Fox, you may have no idea what he actually says when he goes on Fox, which is all the time.

00:38:25.480 So we want to play you a short montage of Lindsey Graham and watch, as you watch this, his eyes.

00:38:32.060 And you can see that he is, maybe for the first time that day, feeling elevated and light and happy, but also tantalized.

00:38:40.240 You can almost watch his mouth fill with saliva.

00:38:44.700 Some people feel this way in strip bars, others in bakeries. 0.93

00:38:49.700 Lindsey Graham is excited by killing. 1.00

00:38:52.900 And if you think that's cruel, watch this.

00:38:55.480 Change is coming to Iran. 0.99

00:38:57.360 It'll be the biggest change in the history of the Mideast to get rid of this Nazi regime. 0.92

00:39:02.920 Hit Iran. 0.99

00:39:04.080 They have oil fields out in the open.

00:39:06.320 They have the Revolutionary Guard headquarters you can see from space.

00:39:10.620 Blow it off the map.

00:39:11.660 There's an opportunity to hit the Iran nuclear program in a fashion I haven't seen in decades.

00:39:16.920 And I think it would be in the world's interest for us to decimate the Iranian nuclear threat while we can. 1.00

00:39:23.900 Be all in, President Trump, in helping Israel eliminate the nuclear threat. 0.53

00:39:29.380 If we need to provide bombs to Israel, provide bombs. 0.97

00:39:32.360 If we need to fly planes with Israel, do joint operations.

00:39:35.960 So pray for our troops in harm's way.

00:39:38.780 There are risks associated with any operation.

00:39:41.500 They join the military to keep their country safe and to make the world a better place.

00:39:45.820 And taking on the Ayatollah does both. 0.99

00:39:48.620 If I were you, Mr. President, I would kill the leadership that are killing the people. 0.99

00:39:52.980 And to the Ayatollahs, you need to understand, if you keep killing your people who are demanding a better life, Donald J. Trump is going to kill you. 0.99

00:40:01.800 I mean, now you can look at that and say, you know, this guy's risking his soul talking like this.

00:40:11.040 This guy is wrong on the evidence. 0.96

00:40:15.320 This guy's clearly a buffoon with some kind of psychosexual problems that we're not qualified to diagnose, but that are totally evident. 0.95

00:40:23.160 But you should also keep in mind, as you watch Lindsey Graham, he's taken very seriously by his colleagues in the Senate, not just the Republicans, but also the Democrats. 0.97

00:40:31.420 And he's taken very seriously by Republicans in Washington more broadly.

00:40:35.840 Of course he is.

00:40:36.820 He's taken very seriously.

00:40:37.900 This has an effect.

00:40:41.660 And that effect could get us into, you know, certainly the worst war in 23 years.

00:40:50.140 So the idea is to flood the zone, the information zone, to make sure that no Republican in Washington hears anything but that.

00:41:00.000 And the proponents of this war are very intent on that.

00:41:03.580 They made no effort to convince you it's a good idea.

00:41:05.800 They are staying up night and day convincing the decision makers it's a good idea.

00:41:10.500 And they're trying, by the way, to shout down and threaten and defame and slander and exclude anybody who has a contrary view, who might pipe up and say, wait a second, are we sure this is a good idea?

00:41:24.160 What would happen if the energy trade gets shut down in the Persian Gulf?

00:41:28.880 What would happen if Iran lobbed, successfully lobbed some sort of armament into a U.S. aircraft carrier and Americans died? 0.84

00:41:35.540 What would happen if Israel felt threatened enough to use nuclear weapons against Iran, which is a possibility, despite what they tell you?

00:41:43.720 That's a possibility.

00:41:44.780 What would happen?

00:41:46.440 Once these things get going, you don't know where they wind up.

00:41:48.340 And anyone who says he does know is lying, obviously.

00:41:51.300 So anyone who raises those questions must be called a Nazi and an anti-Semite. 1.00

00:41:57.520 And you want to kill Jews? 1.00

00:41:59.160 No. 1.00

00:42:00.520 Don't want to kill anybody.

00:42:01.660 The game is to make sure that the only noise in the room comes from Graham and people like Graham, right?

00:42:12.400 Until, of course, someone pushes play and it's too late to stop it.

00:42:16.500 And at that point, we can all pretend we were never for this or they just did it wrong or whatever.

00:42:20.780 We've seen this movie so many times.

00:42:22.760 You know exactly what's going to happen if it goes south.

00:42:24.660 And the truth is, it works because people are intimidated.

00:42:31.780 Donald Trump, to his great credit, listens to everybody.

00:42:34.460 Everybody.

00:42:35.260 And by the way, in his speeches, when he starts rolling and ad-libbing and all that, the weave, as he calls it, he'll often say, I talk to this guy.

00:42:40.940 And like, he actually kind of listens to people.

00:42:42.320 But people around Donald Trump have been intimidated, understandably, by the level of pure aggression aimed at anybody who raises totally reasonable points about the downsides of a war with Iran.

00:43:00.460 So they haven't said anything.

00:43:01.580 So keep in mind, and by the way, this is a message to anyone who knows Donald Trump, has a good relationship with him, likes him, loves the United States.

00:43:09.760 Now's the time to maybe call and say, whoa, whoa, wait a second, have some concerns here.

00:43:14.240 Now is the time, right now, because the decision has not yet been made.

00:43:20.300 But it's not just aggression, it's also lying.

00:43:24.160 So I'm going to play one last clip before we go to Clayton Morris, who's spent many years in the U.S. media and has a, I think, more tactile sense of what's going on here in information world.

00:43:36.980 But one last clip, and this is from, I think, two days ago.

00:43:41.420 And this is from a man at Fox, a weekend show host called Mark Levin.

00:43:45.000 And really nobody has elevated his own visibility to a greater extent or worked harder to get the United States into war with Iran than Mark Levin has.

00:43:55.380 And he's done it not through brilliant argument, incisive analysis, basically through screaming.

00:44:02.220 But as we get closer and closer and closer to the time where this war could actually start, Levin has decided to just make stuff up.

00:44:09.160 And the clip you're about to hear is from his podcast, I believe, and you can check it, two days ago.

00:44:16.040 And it is grounds for dismissal from Fox News, immediate grounds for dismissal.

00:44:20.860 And it's also, at the very least, grounds for, like, questions to him, like, what are you doing?

00:44:26.960 What are you doing saying something like this?

00:44:28.620 This is Mark Levin telling his listeners, such as they are, that Iran has nuclear-tipped ICBMs aimed at the United States.

00:44:39.660 Watch this.

00:44:40.420 They'd slaughter a million of their own people if it meant retaining power.

00:44:45.040 That's not a government of a country. 0.87

00:44:46.940 Those are terrorists that control a country.

00:44:49.760 It is a police state that's slaughtering its own people to stay in power so it can slaughter us.

00:44:56.120 It believes, as the 7th century primitive barbarians believed, that they must destroy civilization.

00:45:05.720 They believe today that they must destroy the West, most prominently the United States of America.

00:45:12.880 Those nuclear ICBMs aren't aimed for Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.

00:45:17.620 They're aimed for New York and Los Angeles and Chicago and everywhere in between and around the United States of America.

00:45:24.060 The enemies of civilization.

00:45:26.340 If you wake up in a world where Mark Levin is publicly identified with, quote, civilization, you are an upside-down world.

00:45:34.940 Civilization begins with the acknowledgement that human life is sacred, that God created each person as an individual, that identity politics is therefore wrong,

00:45:44.840 and that telling the truth matters because truth is absolute.

00:45:48.680 You may get it wrong, but the idea that nothing is true is a form of nihilism, and that attitude is the enemy of civilization.

00:45:56.160 And yet that's exactly what you just saw.

00:45:57.960 Iran does not have nuclear-tipped ICBMs.

00:46:01.620 And they're not aimed at the United States.

00:46:05.760 That is a lie.

00:46:07.780 It is a provable lie.

00:46:09.880 Now, why is he saying that?

00:46:11.020 Not because he hopes to win an argument, but because he hopes to whip his listeners into such a frenzy of fear and rage

00:46:19.720 that they will support something that will hurt them.

00:46:23.800 This will hurt the United States almost without question if it happens.

00:46:28.600 This is not good for you.

00:46:30.300 It's not good for our actual allies, the energy-producing countries in the Middle East, which are our actual allies.

00:46:36.280 Israel is in no sense our ally in this. 0.86

00:46:40.900 And yet Mark Levin will not, and none of these people will, address that debate.

00:46:48.200 Instead, they're just lying to scare people into supporting something that will hurt them.

00:46:53.120 Mark Levin actually tweeted this.

00:46:56.240 And if you're old enough to remember the Iraq War, this is going to make you laugh. 0.76

00:46:59.820 Iran producing ballistic missiles with chemical and biological warheads. 0.63

00:47:03.700 We mustn't delay any longer.

00:47:08.160 The FWMD!

00:47:11.000 Where did that information come from?

00:47:12.480 Well, it came from the free press.

00:47:14.320 No, I beg your pardon.

00:47:15.640 It did not come from the free press.

00:47:16.780 Though they probably repeated it.

00:47:19.160 It came from another aligned publication in Washington.

00:47:24.660 Is there any evidence of that?

00:47:25.800 No, of course there's no evidence of that.

00:47:27.740 And I'd be willing to bet my house that that lie originated in the same place

00:47:33.680 the original WMD lie originated in 2002 before the Iraq War in Israel.

00:47:40.760 Of course.

00:47:41.180 Tell Americans, tell the Congress, tell the White House that the country we want you to spend your money and your lives to overthrow

00:47:52.640 so we can have a greater degree of control or hegemony in our region that that country is a threat to you because they have weapons of mass destruction.

00:48:00.300 That was a lie then.

00:48:01.100 It's a lie now.

00:48:01.780 But they're saying it.

00:48:02.780 And so if you followed Mark Levin's Twitter feed, which I didn't until today, but it's an amazing thing, actually.

00:48:09.480 You'll see that he's given up all argument, any attempt to win anyone over and instead repeating.

00:48:17.300 Kill Khomeini, take out Khomeini, take out Khomeini every single day. 1.00

00:48:23.000 Now, what is this? 0.97

00:48:24.980 Well, it's really a kind of witchcraft, actually.

00:48:27.660 It's the idea that if you repeat something enough that you can will it into existence.

00:48:32.880 The words alone will make it real.

00:48:37.540 And by the way, that works.

00:48:41.340 Unfortunately, that works.

00:48:43.100 If you repeat a lie enough, it assumes substance.

00:48:49.080 God isn't fooled, but people are.

00:48:53.180 And so when you see somebody doing that, saying something that's totally untrue,

00:48:57.140 that contradicts the observations of your eyes and ears, like, I know that's not true.

00:49:03.660 And you see that person brush off the fact that it's not true and continue to repeat it,

00:49:08.580 you know that that person is trying to mesmerize you and put you under whatever kind of spell this is.

00:49:14.180 And that person is scary.

00:49:16.980 And that right now, ladies and gentlemen, is most of the American media and most of the U.S. Congress.

00:49:22.580 So keep praying.

00:49:24.600 In the meantime, Clayton Morris, who once had a seat on the fabled Fox News morning show,

00:49:32.420 joins us now for an update on what he thinks is going on with the media.

00:49:35.700 Clayton Morris, thank you so much for doing this.

00:49:37.080 It was a dirty seat.

00:49:40.140 It was.

00:49:40.900 It was.

00:49:42.200 So are you, I mean, tell me if you think it's fair to say that not all,

00:49:47.980 but most traditional left-right media are aligned.

00:49:52.360 They have disagreements, of course, on the trans issue.

00:49:54.780 But on this issue, whether or not we go to war in Iran, it seems like there's complete agreement.

00:50:02.460 And there always has been.

00:50:03.680 To me, there's no daylight at all between both of these parties.

00:50:07.680 We call it a uniparty.

00:50:08.900 That term gets thrown around quite a bit, this idea of the uniparty.

00:50:12.400 But they are in lockstep on this issue as far as I see it.

00:50:17.340 Very few voices are speaking out about it.

00:50:19.960 If they do, they get pushed out.

00:50:21.180 I mean, look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, you know, questioning why we're in Syria.

00:50:27.680 How dare you?

00:50:28.820 How dare you ask, why are we in Syria?

00:50:32.540 Congressman Massey, very few voices, Senator Paul.

00:50:37.320 But there's very few, there's very little daylight in these parties on this issue at all.

00:50:42.660 They desperately want war.

00:50:44.140 I was sitting here thinking, because you have the ideological push, right, from Mark Levin.

00:50:49.440 He doesn't really care about the money.

00:50:51.520 No.

00:50:52.360 It's the, you know, it's the Greater Israel Project.

00:50:54.540 That's what his big push is.

00:50:56.880 But Lindsey Graham and these others, is it really about Israel or is it really about the money?

00:51:02.180 And I think for most of these people, it's probably about the money.

00:51:06.160 It's the massive military industrial complex.

00:51:09.460 You know, I got warned when I was on Fox, warned me about much, but that was one of the

00:51:14.620 things, tread carefully when I was criticizing the massive buildup, the massive military industrial

00:51:19.980 complex, the amount of money that we're spending on this to go to war in Iran or Libya or Iraq

00:51:27.960 or Afghanistan or whatever other boogeyman of the week that you have, whether it's Russia 1.00

00:51:33.000 through Ukraine, weapons that wind up in Mexico. 0.99

00:51:36.160 Shut up. 0.99

00:51:36.960 Don't ask those questions. 1.00

00:51:37.920 So we're all just supposed to sit back.

00:51:39.780 And then when you question it, why are we giving so much money to Israel?

00:51:43.040 Why do we give all of our money to these different places? 0.99

00:51:45.420 Shut up. 0.99

00:51:45.780 Because these weapons are made in our backyard. 0.99

00:51:48.680 And so if you, as you know it better than anybody, but the military industrial complex

00:51:53.360 sits in the neighborhoods of most members of Congress.

00:51:57.120 Yep.

00:51:57.560 Because whether you drive to Colorado Springs or you drive to Wichita, Kansas, inevitably there's

00:52:04.100 going to be some arm of Northrop Grumman or Boeing or any, name it, name it, Honeywell,

00:52:10.620 it doesn't really matter, who are all receiving trillions of dollars now as part of this massive

00:52:15.620 boondoggle.

00:52:16.260 So heaven forbid that they would ever question the money that's flowing into the military

00:52:21.600 industrial complex.

00:52:22.460 So all of them are bought and paid for.

00:52:25.080 And they're all part of this big cabal.

00:52:26.980 And I think you bring up a great point about they're all in lockstep because they want us

00:52:32.000 to be fighting here, like in this narrow structure, right?

00:52:37.160 Have some culture war, like, you know, whether it's funny stories on Fox News about HOAs telling 0.96

00:52:44.300 people to remove like Christian symbol, whatever it is, right?

00:52:46.980 You just, you fight in these like little, in this little bubble, you know, but the real

00:52:50.880 story's out here and they want us fighting in here.

00:52:54.640 So it looks like that they're really at odds with each other, that AOC is really against

00:52:59.400 Mike Johnson, you know, they're, and instead they're all in agreement, they're all in agreement

00:53:05.600 and they're all in lockstep.

00:53:08.400 When I read very little on this because it's all so misleading, but when I do read big media

00:53:16.140 outlets on this question, and Epstein for that matter, but Iran this week, I really get

00:53:24.080 the feeling that the intel agencies have some hand.

00:53:27.140 And I get the strong feeling, the overwhelming sense that some government intel agency had

00:53:34.260 a hand in shaping this coverage.

00:53:38.240 That's remarkable.

00:53:39.760 That is a remarkable assessment.

00:53:42.020 And I think you'd be on the right track.

00:53:45.120 No, I think you'd definitely be on the right track.

00:53:47.520 And of course, up until a few years ago, you would have been labeled a conspiracy theorist,

00:53:51.140 right?

00:53:51.340 This idea that, wait a second, the intel community has a hand in shaping our narratives, our coverage.

00:53:56.300 We only learned about it through the church committee, by the way, one of the great, great

00:54:01.440 Americans.

00:54:02.960 But go back to the JFK assassination, right?

00:54:05.720 And Project Mockingbird before it ever became Operation Mockingbird.

00:54:09.120 And the infiltration of reporters at the Washington Post and the wiretapping of reporters to find

00:54:15.060 out where information was coming.

00:54:16.360 That was sort of like the clandestine CIA operations then.

00:54:19.660 Then it morphs into the 1970s or late 1960s and 70s into Operation Mockingbird, where they

00:54:25.520 were installing members of the intelligence community in newsrooms, particularly CBS News,

00:54:33.200 the New York Times and others.

00:54:36.140 And then once that was exposed, it morphed into, well, now they're just on the payroll

00:54:41.580 of these networks.

00:54:45.860 You have, you know, Mike Pompeo.

00:54:48.660 They're not even hiding in the shadows anymore, like meeting you at the water cooler.

00:54:52.300 Like, hey, maybe you want to not cover that story tonight.

00:54:55.200 Or maybe you ought to look at this angle of that story tonight.

00:54:57.680 Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

00:54:58.600 Now you just have like people like Mike Pompeo on the payroll of major networks or reporters

00:55:07.620 who are embedded inside the Pentagon, who are just adjacent to people like Jennifer Griffin, 0.98

00:55:12.760 who the other night literally on Fox News said, it's not a matter of if we go to war with

00:55:18.600 Iran, it's a matter of when. 0.85

00:55:20.140 That's literally how she ended her toss back to Brett Baer.

00:55:23.320 Did she really say that?

00:55:25.640 Yeah, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

00:55:29.000 That's not true, by the way.

00:55:31.040 I mean, just in point of fact, that's not true.

00:55:33.340 I do think we're likely to go to war with Iran. 0.98

00:55:36.020 I grieve that.

00:55:37.780 But in point of fact, Trump makes the decision and he hasn't made it.

00:55:42.020 So it's just a fact.

00:55:43.240 So if you're reporting that we're going to war, you're lying.

00:55:47.040 And it does feel like they're trying to create this sense of inevitability.

00:55:50.080 I think her point was the military buildup is like, you can't put that genie back in

00:55:55.720 the bottle at this point, that there's so much of a military buildup.

00:56:00.360 We've moved so many expensive pieces of equipment to this region, not unlike the Gulf War.

00:56:06.500 In fact, I've talked to sources in Tel Aviv who told me they haven't seen this type of

00:56:10.420 buildup since the Gulf War.

00:56:12.460 So I think her point is, oh, well, you know what, Mr. President, maybe you just sort of

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00:56:21.000 We're going to build it up to such a degree where you just can't put this genie back in

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00:56:24.420 And I wonder how much agency he has at this point to be able to tell, we're not going,

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00:56:30.080 Yeah.

00:56:30.540 We're not going to listen to what the Israeli government wants us to do and to launch this

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00:58:37.380 What's interesting is that, excuse me, that kind of military buildup is kind of hard to

00:58:41.800 hide.

00:58:42.520 And it wasn't hidden.

00:58:43.820 It was taking place in public and anyone who was interested could read about it.

00:58:48.020 But I don't think most Americans at any day it was happening.

00:58:50.440 They sort of wake up and you have, you know, Venezuela taking out Maduro on January 3rd.

00:58:55.660 And then that moves into the Super Bowl and Winter Olympics.

00:58:59.700 And like people are just not really aware that this buildup is taking place.

00:59:04.220 And you wake up one morning and holy smokes, the Gerald Ford is there.

00:59:07.880 So we're on its way.

00:59:10.100 Isn't the media supposed to be telling us this is building?

00:59:13.420 Well, you can, if you talked, you know, members of the military and I do, I'm sure you do as

00:59:21.700 well.

00:59:22.260 And they were telling us, you know, in the weeks leading up to this that, wow, the, the, the

00:59:29.120 Abraham Lincoln is now on its, I think, third deployment.

00:59:31.940 They've been extended.

00:59:32.700 So they were supposed to come home.

00:59:34.340 This is like the longest they've ever been out 10 months, which is like unheard of.

00:59:39.340 So they've now been extended for like a third time and they're supposed to come home and

00:59:44.620 see their spouses and sorry, this has been extended because of what's about to happen.

00:59:48.520 So like all of this information is like readily available, but of course there's no journalism

00:59:53.680 actually happening anymore.

00:59:55.560 And if there is, it's being parroted from whatever the intelligence state wants to be pushed out

01:00:01.640 into the mainstream media.

01:00:02.940 People like Sean Hannity who sit there literally and wear a CIA lapel pin.

01:00:08.800 I mean, look at the, look at it.

01:00:09.760 Just Google Sean Hannity CIA lapel pin on the news is wearing a CIA lapel pin.

01:00:16.540 I mean, so, uh, you know, this, I just, I, I, I feel like sometimes Tucker, I wake up and

01:00:23.860 I'm living in this like weird, bizarro world because people are going about their business.

01:00:26.980 They're going about their day.

01:00:27.980 And then you and I live in this world where we're seeing all of these things happening

01:00:31.560 and it doesn't touch the American people necessarily, right?

01:00:36.260 They're going to go about their day.

01:00:37.180 The gas prices may go up, depends on what happens in the streets of Hormuz, et cetera.

01:00:42.840 Unless you're one of the families of the 50,000 Americans who are currently in the region

01:00:46.800 and whom Joe Biden said, without a doubt, they're, you know, they will be, it's not a matter

01:00:52.520 of if it's a matter of when they are attacked.

01:00:54.700 So he's expecting fully for them to be cannon fodder.

01:00:58.300 So then these military families will have the loss of life.

01:01:01.660 But of course that'll be insulated and bubble wrapped from most of the American people anyway,

01:01:05.300 and it won't affect people's day-to-day lives.

01:01:08.320 So we, we, we pick these fights where we're doing these regime change wars over there.

01:01:13.060 And there's very little effect on the United States populace and the mainstream media tries

01:01:18.140 to bury and cover it or spin a narrative.

01:01:20.360 It's, it's incredibly frustrating and to see the mockingbird media like Fox News and others

01:01:26.420 just pushing for this, it's, it is infuriating.

01:01:30.560 But it's not simply that they lie.

01:01:32.420 It's that they work to exclude and discredit people who tell the truth.

01:01:36.340 People who tell the truth are punished.

01:01:37.760 I mean, this is like a principle in the gospels.

01:01:39.640 The one guy who got tortured to death was the guy who was telling the truth, right?

01:01:42.360 So we shouldn't be surprised by it, but I am every single time.

01:01:45.820 I got a text today from, and I won't say this person's name.

01:01:49.820 It's an editor at Barry Weiss's gatekeeper publication who writes me this.

01:01:55.120 I'm the features editor of the free press.

01:01:56.680 We have a feature coming out about how the podcast business has leaned into conspiracy theories.

01:02:03.980 We'd love to include your voice.

01:02:05.500 Let me know.

01:02:07.020 I said, pretty funny.

01:02:08.780 I don't think that line of attack works anymore.

01:02:10.340 Does it?

01:02:10.840 Um, and she didn't, she didn't get back to me, but I love that the only people who are telling the truth are attacked by the liars.

01:02:22.200 And that, by the way, your audience, your and Natalie's audience is way bigger than the free press, way bigger than CBS news.

01:02:30.780 I mean, I do think that the people I'm accusing of lying have less of a grip on the American public than ever before.

01:02:39.260 So maybe it doesn't matter, but it is infuriating.

01:02:43.620 Right.

01:02:44.040 We, we even, I think we even sell a t-shirt on our store that says conspiracy knower, you know, and our pronouns are, our pronouns are, I told you so.

01:02:52.640 So I, I'm, you know, like I'm fine.

01:02:56.520 You know, I wear it as a badge of honor.

01:02:58.220 It's fine.

01:02:58.720 Whether it's COVID or what was going on in Ukraine, the child trafficking operations, whatever it is that we've been covering on our show, I have yet to have anyone come on our show and say, you need to correct that mistake.

01:03:11.260 Oh, okay.

01:03:12.340 So, you know, conspiracy theories are just six months, six months spoiler alerts, right?

01:03:16.940 For what's to come.

01:03:17.840 So I love leaning into conspiracy theories because no one else is doing the job.

01:03:22.380 I mean, just look at the Epstein story.

01:03:24.280 Where is the mainstream media?

01:03:26.280 They're not covering it at all and not even not covering it.

01:03:31.200 They're refusing to have voices on their air who could actually provide real value, real source material.

01:03:37.900 I'm speaking to a source today, actually.

01:03:42.040 And who just, who's recently been to Epstein Island.

01:03:45.280 And on Epstein Island, there's still papers, Jeffrey Epstein's papers scattered all over his books, materials everywhere, just laying there, not gathered up by the FBI, not gathered up and being investigated.

01:04:03.040 But where is this information in the mainstream media?

01:04:05.680 Where are any deeper questions about Epstein's murder?

01:04:09.240 And all of the inconsistencies that have, that appeared that day at the prison.

01:04:13.120 And where are these, they're not in the mainstream media at all.

01:04:16.280 And even like Fox News coverage of Pam Bondi's hearing was mysteriously absent.

01:04:20.960 I don't know if you noticed that, but Fox News loves to go wall to wall with, you know, whoever, whatever member of the cabinet is going to be there.

01:04:28.880 They love to go wall to wall coverage.

01:04:30.340 Let's check in now with Kash Patel.

01:04:32.040 You know, he's testifying before Congress today about what the FBI is doing.

01:04:35.880 Great. Spend an hour, two hours, senators, members of, you know, have representatives asking questions, House Judiciary Committee and otherwise.

01:04:45.460 Pam Bondi coverage?

01:04:46.820 Shame on you.

01:04:47.340 If you tuned into Fox News to see like deep coverage of Pam Bondi being grilled over the Epstein files, sorry.

01:04:54.020 You weren't going to see it.

01:04:54.980 MSNBC carried it, if I'm not mistaken.

01:04:57.020 CNN carried it.

01:04:57.920 But Fox News, like why, why do they, why do they not want to show Pam Bondi being questioned about the Epstein files?

01:05:04.880 Normally they'd be covering that wall to wall.

01:05:06.600 So there is a dereliction of duty happening in the mainstream media.

01:05:10.960 And I know from sources who have sent material to like News Nation, the New York Times and other major publications, and they've ignored it.

01:05:19.720 They've ignored it and won't publish it.

01:05:21.900 So why?

01:05:23.300 Anyway, there's a dereliction of duty in the mainstream media.

01:05:25.540 So I think it's a fair question.

01:05:27.260 And why?

01:05:28.060 In fact, it's the important question.

01:05:29.680 Obviously Fox's audience is interested in Epstein.

01:05:33.300 You know, the guy who partied with Bill Gates and really was friends with Hillary Clinton.

01:05:38.740 Like, why wouldn't they be interested?

01:05:40.200 Of course they're interested, but they're not getting the coverage from their network of choice.

01:05:45.300 But that's also true of New York Times readers.

01:05:47.680 So it's a left-right, once again, collusion on this cover-up.

01:05:53.380 And it is a cover-up.

01:05:54.160 What explains that?

01:05:57.900 I've been wrestling with this a lot.

01:06:00.560 And I'm, you know, is it because, and certain sources who have told me that it is because how this hits just about everyone, the major power players.

01:06:12.100 I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene admitted that President Trump called her and asked her to not vote for the, what am I saying?

01:06:20.940 The dispatch?

01:06:22.240 Discharge petition.

01:06:23.200 I always get the discharge petition.

01:06:25.360 Excuse me.

01:06:25.920 And of course, the Epstein Transparency Act, in her words, quoting her, she said, President told me that too many of my friends would be hurt.

01:06:34.540 And I think that's at the heart of it.

01:06:35.920 And I think the money, and there's a reason also, I think, that we haven't seen any of the financial information yet.

01:06:40.940 So, you know, when you and I spoke a few years ago on the show, we talked about, like, Operation Gladio and NATO.

01:06:50.240 And there's a strategy that they have, which is, you know, the strategy of tension that Colonel Towner Watkins, she's very eloquent on this point.

01:06:57.420 And it's a strategy to keep us in this chaos, right?

01:07:00.820 And it's also like a drip feed of information.

01:07:02.860 So we get sort of disparate pieces of emails, but no financial information, no transactions that connect point A to point B.

01:07:13.560 We get this person said this.

01:07:15.180 Peter Atiyah said, I can't tell everyone about you. 0.99

01:07:18.880 You know, you're my friend, but man, you're kind of dirty. 0.96

01:07:22.180 We get Russian models with Bill Gates emails. 0.98

01:07:25.120 We get random pieces of Pizzagate and all of these other things.

01:07:29.080 But do we get financial connections, financial transactions, which the DOJ is sitting on, by the way?

01:07:36.520 Like, why don't we see any of that information?

01:07:39.300 And, you know, to your point with the New York Times or these different publications covering this up, I, you know, I don't know.

01:07:47.280 But they were actively involved in this.

01:07:51.460 I mean, you have Landon Thomas, for instance, right, whose name shows up as part of the Epstein investigation.

01:07:59.480 He was writing about the Epstein from the New York Times, financial reporter writing about Epstein back during his first arrest.

01:08:06.280 And then you have Nellie Bowles, who is, of course, the partner of, wife of Barry Weiss, who gets assigned by the New York Times as a tech reporter to go and do a profile piece on Jeffrey Epstein.

01:08:24.400 And it's in the files where she claims, oh, my newsroom basically, you know, they told me it was or it later came out in her piece why she justified it, that she could go and be with Epstein, that I'd be safe.

01:08:37.720 Like, so wait, the New York Times put you up to going to a known pedophile sex traffickers house?

01:08:44.640 Like, what kind of newsrooms? 0.88

01:08:45.580 Like, yeah, you should, you, you girl, you just run along to a known sex trafficking and pedophiles house and write a profile piece as a tech reporter.

01:08:52.680 Like, look, I covered technology for years, love it, and I know all those people in the tech world, if you call it, like, there's no way somebody from, like, The Verge or the tech reporter for The Wall Street Journal would be assigned to go do, like, a criminal profile piece, like, on financial crimes and sex trafficking or what, it just wouldn't make any sense.

01:09:14.320 It's like Bob Woodward being chosen to cover Watergate, you know, like, as a CIA asset or Intel, you know, adjacent asset.

01:09:24.340 It just doesn't make any sense.

01:09:26.880 And then when you learn that she's cozy with Epstein and then Barry Weiss, it's just so bizarre.

01:09:32.920 Yeah, I know Nellie Bowles. 1.00

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01:11:19.260 Has she explained this?

01:11:23.340 Nellie Bowles, she wrote a piece about how, yeah, I think I have it here, actually.

01:11:27.360 She wrote a piece.

01:11:29.360 Nellie Bowles, the journalist and the Epstein. 0.76

01:11:32.280 She published this on the 3rd of February, actually.

01:11:38.040 Nellie Bowles, the journalist and the Epstein. 0.76

01:11:39.640 I had the chance to profile one of the darkest, most interesting characters of our moment.

01:11:44.160 Why didn't I grab it?

01:11:45.680 Why didn't I grab it?

01:11:47.480 So, she writes this whole piece about regularly using him as a source because he was business adjacent.

01:11:55.180 So, I just thought it would be good to write, you know, we're going to write a profile piece on this.

01:11:59.180 So, the media, it's remarkable how incurious they are or intentionally. 0.98

01:12:05.860 I don't believe they're dumb. 0.90

01:12:06.940 They're not allowing, for instance, Congressman Massey to appear on television. 0.98

01:12:11.660 I know for a fact that he hasn't, Fox News has not had him on in, I think, about a year, if I'm not mistaken.

01:12:20.580 The guy responsible, along with Ro Khanna, for the Epstein Transparency Act, but Fox News won't allow Congressman Massey to appear on their airwaves?

01:12:30.620 Like, is there some sort of gatekeeping going on by Susie Wiles inside the White House to keep these people from getting this message out on their favorite network?

01:12:40.420 I don't know.

01:12:41.260 I mean, keep in mind that Fox hates Trump.

01:12:44.760 The owners hate Trump.

01:12:45.640 The Murdochs hate Trump to the point where they wouldn't have him on.

01:12:49.940 So, it's hard to believe it's because they support Trump.

01:12:53.760 And can I just say something because I know I'm going to be attacked if I don't say this.

01:12:56.840 I have no connection whatsoever to Nellie Bowles.

01:12:59.900 You know, not an intimate at all.

01:13:01.540 I am dissidently related to her.

01:13:03.360 So, I just want to say that.

01:13:05.200 But I'm not part of any conspiracy at all.

01:13:08.160 Okay.

01:13:09.360 But I could just, not to be defensive, I could see, whoa, you didn't mention that.

01:13:15.040 Anyway, but no, I agree.

01:13:17.180 I didn't know that.

01:13:17.900 I didn't know that.

01:13:18.700 Yeah.

01:13:19.000 I mean, yeah, it's not relevant to my life in any way.

01:13:22.260 But I just feel like I should say that, just to be honest about it.

01:13:28.000 So, but Fox, they're pushing so hard for the war.

01:13:31.780 Or if the war goes off, I think it's fair to say, I voted for Trump and campaigned for Trump.

01:13:36.660 I just saw Trump.

01:13:37.560 I really like Trump.

01:13:38.660 I think this, you know, it's going to be hard for the administration to continue in its present form if this war doesn't go well.

01:13:45.960 So, it's a huge risk for Trump.

01:13:47.120 So, if you really like Trump, you would not be counseling him to do this.

01:13:50.940 You would not be.

01:13:51.740 Only if you hated Trump, would you tell him to get involved in a regime change war in Iran.

01:13:58.200 And second, if you, like, they're not protecting Trump by hiding Epstein.

01:14:03.820 So, I feel like Fox is acting on behalf of someone else other than Trump.

01:14:08.780 That's, I mean, my assessment anyway.

01:14:11.720 Who is that?

01:14:12.200 Is it the moneyed interest?

01:14:18.400 Is it the globalist cultists who run everything?

01:14:21.660 I mean, this is where my mind goes.

01:14:23.640 Yes.

01:14:24.380 It's whatever the superstructure above governments is.

01:14:27.480 And that's very obvious in the Epstein emails and texts is that, you know, he's part of some informal structure that's, I don't know, shorting the global financial crisis and knows that Gaddafi is going to be killed before Hillary Clinton does or whatever.

01:14:42.640 Like, this guy is so plugged in.

01:14:44.900 He's way more plugged in than any U.S. senator.

01:14:46.520 He's way more plugged in than any secretary of state.

01:14:48.540 Probably more plugged in than the CIA director.

01:14:50.320 So, like, what is this?

01:14:51.280 What are we looking at here?

01:14:53.580 I think you're right.

01:14:54.420 And, you know, this is where people say, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist on Redacted and Tucker, whatever.

01:14:58.560 But it really is true. 0.94

01:14:59.800 When you understand that there's this global cultist network, pedophiles, Satanists who are, you know, responsible for the COVID cabal and all of it, this supra government, whatever you want to call it, at the heart of everything, then you understand that, like, Trump is just a small piece of this.

01:15:18.700 And you understand also that Epstein is just a small piece of this.

01:15:22.020 That's correct.

01:15:22.460 So, a window into it, in my opinion, and they're very scared.

01:15:28.220 It's like circling the wagons to kind of protect this globalist network, however it operates at many, many different levels.

01:15:34.900 You know, you get glimpses into it, like with the Bilderberg Group and, you know, when you see all these people at Davos telling us how they're going to control our lives in the next few years with AI, you know, chips inserted into our brains and moving past information warfare.

01:15:53.480 Now they're just going to have total control of us in all of it.

01:15:57.520 So, I think that Rupert Murdoch and these guys, these oligarchs, these tech oligarchs who are at the top, they're way more powerful than President Trump and they're really running the show.

01:16:09.220 I mean, when you see that we're going to have, you know, massive biometric scanning and 6G networks rolled out and digital IDs and CBDCs and all of this digital tracking, it's all about control.

01:16:24.680 Kevin Shipp, former CIA whistleblower told me, you know, 17 years at the CIA and he said, he said, Clayton, you have to understand that when I, when I got to the CIA, the, the, you know, the number one goal at the CIA is if they can, if they know your thoughts, then they've won.

01:16:45.380 And that's the number one goal of the intelligence state is for them to know your thoughts and to be able to have that control.

01:16:51.860 And we're not there yet, but we're, we're damn close.

01:16:55.620 And I think those are the, those are the dark forces that are really running all of it.

01:16:59.660 And I think Trump is a small piece of this, but I think those power players that run all of these media networks and all of it, you know, the Jeff Bezos is of the world and all of this have far more control than President Trump does.

01:17:13.580 Do you sense that people are afraid?

01:17:15.900 I, as I was thinking about this story today, both about the looming war and about Epstein and how few people have stood up to say, wait a second, you know, what is this?

01:17:27.140 Um, and I, I grew up in a country where people would routinely stand up and say, Hey, what is this?

01:17:32.440 And I don't see a lot of that at all.

01:17:34.320 And I'm wondering why.

01:17:35.760 And mass hypnosis is part of it.

01:17:37.860 Of course, people seem to be under a kind of spell.

01:17:40.820 Shock is another part of it, but fear does seem to play a role.

01:17:45.480 People seem afraid.

01:17:46.740 I think you're right.

01:17:52.420 Maybe I don't, I don't see a lot of this fear and, and I, you know, maybe I should be standing out there with like a sandwich board trying to say it.

01:18:01.720 I mean, I, I see the people in our chat room who watch our live show who are saying, I'm, I'm terrified of what's about to happen.

01:18:07.980 Where are the people who are denouncing this, trying to get this, trying to stop it.

01:18:12.080 But of course they're all being drowned out and the main, and the media is a, is complicit in this.

01:18:17.580 They're a huge piece of this salesmanship of it.

01:18:22.100 And when you just watch like local news, like I'm in Colorado, you just like flip on the local news for a few minutes to get maybe some, some weather updates.

01:18:29.480 They'll do a little quick update.

01:18:31.200 President Trump says this will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

01:18:36.140 Play a quick soundbite of, I don't know, Mark Levin or Senator Lindsey Graham or somebody.

01:18:41.040 saying that this is a threat.

01:18:43.300 And then, you know, that person goes off to work and thinks, yeah, I guess Iran is a threat. 0.56

01:18:46.680 I hope, I hope that doesn't happen.

01:18:48.840 So, you know, we, we got to stop them.

01:18:51.740 We got to do this.

01:18:52.840 And so I don't see a lot of the fear from just like average people going to the grocery store.

01:18:59.920 And again, I think it comes back to, we are always so far removed from war in the United States.

01:19:06.920 And that, that's how they've thrived off this.

01:19:09.140 This is how the military industrial complex has thrived is by having these wars over there.

01:19:14.780 And we don't have to see it.

01:19:16.720 And it's very sanitized.

01:19:18.660 It's like getting a chicken breast from the grocery store.

01:19:20.820 You know, you don't have to see the, the, the butcher process.

01:19:24.960 No, you don't.

01:19:25.560 You just get this nice little thing in cellophane and sold to you on the nightly news.

01:19:29.300 And then you go back to your taking your daughters to dance class.

01:19:32.520 I wonder if people who do see it, who are paid to notice this stuff, you, for example, and, and other podcasters, that, that's, that's really where truth is being told right now.

01:19:43.780 I'm grateful to be in this business unexpectedly because I feel like there's so many great people in it.

01:19:49.160 But it really is the only place at this point, it'll change, but as of right now, it's digital media, social media, and podcasts.

01:19:58.280 I mean, that's where people are telling the truth.

01:20:00.020 And there are lots of crazies too, and lots of liars.

01:20:02.820 But, but that's really where most of the truth is being told. 0.94

01:20:06.840 Can they continue to do this?

01:20:08.760 I mean, it feels like there has to be some kind of dramatic free speech crackdown because what the government is doing at every level is too far from what the public wants.

01:20:19.280 The, the distance is, it's never perfect.

01:20:21.260 Like the government's always doing stuff people don't want.

01:20:23.160 But if every big thing the government is doing is, you know, an 80, 20 against issue with the public, that's not sustainable.

01:20:30.740 You have to do something or you're going to have a kind of revolution, right?

01:20:34.300 So don't you have to shut down free speech?

01:20:36.200 I mean, that's exactly why we got rid of TikTok, right?

01:20:40.820 I mean, that's, you're going to see this consolidation of these independent voices and others will pop up and whether or not they're as successful or not.

01:20:47.760 I mean, who, who knows at the end of the day.

01:20:50.780 But of course, you're going to have this consolidation and sale and, and censorship.

01:20:54.780 And that's, I mean, we've seen it on YouTube and you've seen it on these other platforms.

01:21:01.800 And so you saw it during COVID and you saw, you know, Elon Musk still hasn't answered the question.

01:21:09.660 And I think it's still there, which is that backdoor access for Twitter.

01:21:13.440 And maybe, maybe he will answer it.

01:21:15.960 He didn't answer.

01:21:17.040 I followed up with him.

01:21:17.800 He still hasn't answered the question, but there was a backdoor access from the U.S.

01:21:21.540 government to X, formerly Twitter.

01:21:25.000 And I asked him about it specifically, and he didn't know anything about it when I asked him.

01:21:29.800 And he said, I'm going to have to follow up on that.

01:21:31.480 And I followed, I never got an answer on that.

01:21:33.500 So like, to steal your phrase, you know, like, what is that?

01:21:40.200 Really?

01:21:40.480 X still has a backdoor access from the federal government to censor users on X?

01:21:46.960 I mean, you can just see people's voices who criticize a certain topic, who then are suddenly

01:21:52.680 throttled or, you know, suddenly shadow banned and whose messages suddenly don't appear in

01:21:57.380 your timeline.

01:21:58.300 And so, again, not to be conspiratorial, but these things are going to have to be censored

01:22:04.700 at a greater level and they will have more control of it.

01:22:07.860 You're already seeing it too with answers you get on AI.

01:22:11.120 And so many people are ditching Google, just general Google searches.

01:22:14.860 It's absurd.

01:22:15.640 You know, so that they get new versions of Google searches thinking that they're getting 0.53

01:22:21.140 more honest answers when really it's what garbage in, garbage out, whatever the programming

01:22:25.260 is for AI, it's the answers they're going to get on that side.

01:22:29.200 So, you know, it's very, very difficult to get honest answers anymore.

01:22:34.680 And all of these sources, especially on the media side, the digital media side, and where

01:22:39.040 is AI pulling their source material from?

01:22:41.020 Like mainstream media, like I did a search the other day and it pulled up like six different

01:22:44.220 sources and Reuters.

01:22:46.740 Okay.

01:22:47.800 Reuters.

01:22:49.640 Vox Media.

01:22:51.100 You know, it was like six or seven sources, all like mainstream media sources.

01:22:55.840 So I'm not getting any cleaner answers there.

01:22:59.800 No.

01:23:00.860 No.

01:23:01.340 They're just repeating the lies back to you in a less transparent way.

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01:24:21.820 So that's pretty funny.

01:24:24.740 What did you think, Mike Huckabee, we interviewed him last week.

01:24:28.460 And Israel, and I found his, everything about him totally disgraceful. 0.99

01:24:35.640 But since we did that, but I tried to let him talk and not be a jerk, which is hard for 0.98

01:24:41.120 me, and to, you know, kind of... 0.96

01:24:43.220 Me too.

01:24:43.700 It's hard for me.

01:24:44.200 Press him.

01:24:44.940 Yeah.

01:24:45.420 Right?

01:24:45.760 I'm not a great person.

01:24:46.500 Don't pretend to be.

01:24:47.420 But I did want to get to the root answers on a couple of foundational questions.

01:24:51.840 Like, if Israel has a right to exist uniquely in the world, where does that right come from 0.93

01:24:55.580 and to whom does it apply and what are the boundaries of the state?

01:24:58.360 Like, those are, I think, basic questions.

01:25:01.920 He, and why aren't you representing the U.S. government as the U.S. ambassador?

01:25:07.940 After that interview, I mean, I think the guy, something broke inside him.

01:25:11.540 Have you ever been attacked after an interview?

01:25:13.200 I, that's usually a sign that, that something snapped in the person.

01:25:20.400 I mean, you got attacked, I think, after your interview with Ted Cruz and then after your

01:25:24.420 interview with Mike Huckabee.

01:25:25.600 So that should tell you something about, you know, your incredible interviewing skills where

01:25:31.980 you're just asking the basic question.

01:25:33.860 Yeah.

01:25:34.560 Well, I mean, you can only ask the question 30 times and not get an answer.

01:25:39.080 At some point, like, you know, this could be a five-hour interview for just, I'm going

01:25:43.020 to ask the same question over and over and over again.

01:25:45.100 And you're going to, you're not going to answer the question.

01:25:47.040 Like, where does that right come from?

01:25:50.020 And then like under bewilderment, finally, like an admission of truth at one point when

01:25:54.480 he says, yes, they should just take it all, Tucker.

01:25:58.320 And I just about fell out of my chair.

01:26:00.620 Natalie and I watched it together.

01:26:01.820 We both looked at each other.

01:26:03.280 I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

01:26:04.880 And of course, why widely condemned and across all of the Middle East after that, that comment

01:26:10.400 that sure, Israel has a right to all of this land.

01:26:12.100 They should just take up, but Israel won't because they're good. 1.00

01:26:14.520 They're good.

01:26:15.060 So they're not going to.

01:26:16.080 So we should just rest.

01:26:17.380 We should all sit back because they have no history of doing that at all and just allow

01:26:22.440 them to take the small sliver of land.

01:26:24.420 So, but you can only ask that question so many times before, you know, and you're not going

01:26:29.680 to get an answer and not going to get a straight answer about it.

01:26:32.420 Um, but I was particularly, should this guy be, I mean, I disagree with him on the theology.

01:26:38.520 It's, it's not Christianity from what I can tell at all. 0.53

01:26:42.120 He's a violence worshiper.

01:26:43.640 That right there is disqualifying as far as I'm concerned, far be it for me to give theology

01:26:47.740 lessons, but that does not look like Christianity to me.

01:26:50.360 But leaving that aside, the guy is the U.S.

01:26:52.640 ambassador.

01:26:53.200 He works for the State Department.

01:26:54.080 He represents the president in a foreign country and he's not representing the U.S.

01:26:58.260 government.

01:26:58.600 He's representing the country he's living in, a foreign country. 0.99

01:27:02.780 He's not helping to get sex criminals in Israel extradited to the United States. 0.95

01:27:08.720 He's meeting with a traitor, Jonathan Pollard. 0.85

01:27:13.080 He's basically using his post to work out his weird cultish views.

01:27:19.760 How is that guy a U.S.

01:27:22.100 diplomat?

01:27:22.860 I just, I've never seen anything like that.

01:27:24.360 And I haven't either.

01:27:26.360 I lived in Portugal for five years.

01:27:28.060 And while I was there, Trump's ambassador, his, his, his original ambassador before, you

01:27:35.740 know, the Biden era ambassadors.

01:27:37.020 I mean, got in a, quite a bit of problems with the Portuguese government for basically telling

01:27:46.120 them to, you know, back off on China.

01:27:49.520 There were a couple of other issues, but it was coming from a place of American interest.

01:27:56.260 Right.

01:27:56.960 Exactly.

01:27:57.480 And it was quite a big deal, like in the Portuguese press, like how dare this ambassador, how dare

01:28:05.340 he tell us like what the Americans want?

01:28:08.400 You know, this is Portugal.

01:28:09.400 Right.

01:28:09.700 So I, I almost would like a little bit of that, right?

01:28:13.660 Like, Hey, I'm going to hold a press conference here in Tel Aviv.

01:28:17.960 And while we believe in our, our partnership with Israel, we also, as Americans don't stand 0.53

01:28:24.920 for pedophiles, known pedophiles. 0.77

01:28:28.480 Like why is Israel safe haven for pedophiles?

01:28:30.900 And it is, I mean, you could call up Barry Weiss and have her pull up the CBS archives where

01:28:36.800 CBS did a deep dive on Israel's deep pedophile connections and where American pedophiles

01:28:43.400 can flee and find safe haven with this right of return. 0.92

01:28:46.520 Doesn't matter if you're pedophile, doesn't matter if you killed children or not, who 0.98

01:28:49.700 cares? 0.95

01:28:50.960 So as an American ambassador to stand up there and hold a press conference and say, as Americans,

01:28:56.700 even though we've got a great relationship with Israel, we will not stand for this country 1.00

01:29:00.200 harboring convicted pedophiles or pedophiles under indictment who are caught in a sting operation

01:29:06.080 back in the United States.

01:29:07.220 Like we want these people extradited back to the United States to stand trial and to face

01:29:11.700 a jury of their peers.

01:29:12.620 But we don't hear any of that.

01:29:15.360 We got hassled when we were there.

01:29:16.920 My producers got really hassled.

01:29:18.340 Our cameraman got really hassled by thugs in the Israeli security services.

01:29:23.980 I mean, unequivocally hassled, outrageous.

01:29:28.360 And Huckabee didn't ask what happened.

01:29:31.960 He just immediately took the side of the foreign government against my producers.

01:29:36.820 So don't we as American taxpayers and American citizens have an expectation that there's someone

01:29:44.360 in our government who will take our side against a foreign government or at least consider our

01:29:49.100 position against their position?

01:29:51.660 I mean, shouldn't we expect that?

01:29:54.720 You would think we would expect that.

01:29:56.820 I'm just reminded.

01:29:57.480 It's like you see the movies, Hollywood movies, where an American is in another country and

01:30:02.040 he finds safe haven by going to a U.S. embassy, right?

01:30:06.840 Huckabee would turn you over immediately to Shin Bet.

01:30:10.080 I mean, you would have no safe haven in the U.S. embassy at all.

01:30:15.640 I mean, I would feel safe in a lot of other U.S. embassies around the world.

01:30:19.100 Like, oh, I'm kind of here.

01:30:20.200 I'm here on sovereign territory.

01:30:22.100 This is America, a little slice of America.

01:30:24.420 Like up on the walls, a picture of President Trump.

01:30:26.600 There's the Secretary of State's picture.

01:30:28.580 There's an American flag.

01:30:29.720 I'm speaking English.

01:30:30.820 Like I've been to a bunch of embassies, you know, in other parts of the world.

01:30:34.100 And I feel like, well, this is, yeah, this is America a little bit, a little slice

01:30:38.500 of it, you know?

01:30:39.580 I wouldn't feel that way there.

01:30:41.020 No.

01:30:41.600 Given his loyalty.

01:30:42.520 I mean, even just back in the Fox days, you know, I mean, and, you know, Huckabee's

01:30:46.360 always been gracious to me.

01:30:47.640 Of course.

01:30:48.460 And he's always been very nice.

01:30:48.920 In fact, but there was many times where he was like, I'm going to Israel again this

01:30:52.960 week.

01:30:53.220 I'm going to Israel again this week.

01:30:54.580 And this was back when before he was, he had a show, but before he was running for

01:30:58.300 president and complaining about Trump, he said, God, why the Fox puts Trump on all

01:31:03.260 the air?

01:31:03.640 You know, I can't get, I can't get a word in edgewise.

01:31:06.620 They won't give me any air time. 0.97

01:31:07.940 He sucks up his words. 1.00

01:31:09.040 He's, he, Trump sucks up all the air in the room. 1.00

01:31:13.480 Um, I can't get on the TV, you know, and all this stuff. 0.98

01:31:17.060 But so he would just like, I'm going to Israel again and come back.

01:31:20.720 Clayton, I brought you a gift, you know?

01:31:22.100 And here's another, here's a yarmulke.

01:31:24.060 Like, oh, thanks.

01:31:24.720 And I'll add it to the yarmulke collection.

01:31:26.340 You, you know, you, in my office now, and here's the, here's the jar.

01:31:30.820 This is right.

01:31:31.380 You know, this is right from Tel Aviv.

01:31:32.660 Here's another.

01:31:32.880 So, I mean, he was, there was a deep love, deep love there for many, many years.

01:31:38.700 Yeah, I knew, I mean, I knew him well and I was aware of that and I, I don't care.

01:31:43.780 Go ahead and love Israel.

01:31:44.800 It doesn't bother me at all.

01:31:45.740 I've never been mad at Israel and I don't care if you love Israel, but if you're the 1.00

01:31:50.120 U.S. ambassador, you're supposed to take your country's side against all other countries. 0.64

01:31:55.640 I would think that'd be a prerequisite for citizenship, by the way.

01:31:58.160 It doesn't seem to be.

01:31:58.960 Um, and it's, the whole thing is so humiliating and shameful that it gives us some insight

01:32:04.460 into what's happening with this Iran war.

01:32:06.400 So in a, in a normal country, you would just say to Israel, look, you don't exist except 1.00

01:32:10.720 for us.

01:32:11.620 We pay for everything.

01:32:12.720 We make everything possible for you.

01:32:14.680 You'd be eliminated without us.

01:32:16.260 So we're not going to war with Iran.

01:32:19.080 We're going to negotiate a settlement where they're not going to build nuclear weapons.

01:32:23.580 That's, that's fine.

01:32:24.820 They've already said they won't.

01:32:26.440 They have a fatwa against it.

01:32:28.040 Maybe you don't believe that.

01:32:28.780 That's okay too.

01:32:29.500 We can discuss this, but what we're not going to do is allow you to start the war unilaterally

01:32:35.160 and then suck us into it. 0.94

01:32:37.540 That's actually what's going on.

01:32:39.040 We're afraid that Israel will start a war unilaterally against our interests and no one

01:32:44.780 can tell them no.

01:32:46.040 Like what the hell is going on?

01:32:47.940 Is there any other country that has this kind of control over the United States Congress

01:32:55.780 and administrations?

01:32:58.120 Because I can't think of any.

01:33:00.040 No.

01:33:00.120 I can't think of any.

01:33:01.660 And you know, he wouldn't get this position if he was tough on Israel.

01:33:06.220 He wouldn't be in a position of flying in and being the U.S. ambassador if he was tough

01:33:12.020 on Israel or he was going to put them in their place.

01:33:14.680 And we're not going to, we're not going to carry out another regime change war on your

01:33:17.900 behalf.

01:33:18.240 Like, look, we tried it in Libya, didn't work out so well, destabilized the Middle East.

01:33:22.440 We tried it in Iraq, didn't work out so well, destabilized the Middle East. 1.00

01:33:27.360 And I know you've been calling for this for decades for us to help you and to carry this

01:33:31.880 out in Iran.

01:33:33.280 We're not going to do it.

01:33:35.180 He'd be out of a job.

01:33:36.700 I just don't see how when you have literally a White House chief of staff who is formerly

01:33:41.480 worked for Netanyahu inside the White House, you don't choose an ambassador.

01:33:47.260 The gatekeeping does not allow for somebody who's critical of Israel to be the U.S. ambassador

01:33:53.320 to Israel.

01:33:53.900 It's just not going to happen.

01:33:55.100 I mean, I think this is, we've gotten to this place because nobody wants to hurt anybody's

01:33:59.440 feelings.

01:34:00.880 And the Bibi people have conflated skepticism of Israel's goals with anti-Semitism, which

01:34:09.100 is insane.

01:34:10.580 I mean, there are a lot of Jews who don't like Bibi, and they have every good reason to 1.00

01:34:14.060 they're not anti-Semites.

01:34:15.040 Because no person is an anti-Semite for disliking the actions of the Israeli government or not

01:34:20.240 buying Zionism, whatever that is.

01:34:23.800 So people have been kind of, like, they don't want to have that fight, so they've just sort

01:34:27.500 of let this fester.

01:34:28.820 And then there's the other factor, which is physical fear, because Israel is so violent 1.00

01:34:33.580 and is constantly bragging about murdering people and blowing up kids with pagers or leveling 0.54

01:34:39.360 Gaza.

01:34:39.860 I mean, this is the most violent country in the world by far, per capita.

01:34:44.340 So there is a feeling that, like, if you criticize them too much, they could hurt you.

01:34:50.840 And I get that.

01:34:51.680 I'm not criticizing anyone who's afraid, because there's a reason to be afraid.

01:34:54.840 However, we've gotten to a place where we're potentially going to, like, wreck our economy

01:35:02.780 and Americans will die because one guy, Benjamin Netanyahu, thinks it's a good idea or good

01:35:08.000 for his political career or whatever. 0.99

01:35:09.680 Like, that is truly bonkers.

01:35:11.500 Like, why are we allowing this?

01:35:14.700 It's going to be devastating.

01:35:15.960 Speaking of Vox Media, six years ago, they wrote a piece after Soleimani was killed, that

01:35:25.200 if we go to war with Iran, it will not be a walk in the park.

01:35:30.860 It will be a brutal, bloody war.

01:35:34.320 And it will be their, quote, hell on earth. 0.93

01:35:37.800 Hell on earth. 0.74

01:35:39.360 And that's just there.

01:35:40.280 Every military expert I've talked to says, what, we have no strategy whatsoever.

01:35:45.560 And we have, as you pointed out in your monologue earlier, what end game?

01:35:49.440 Like, what is the end of this?

01:35:52.320 Sort of a permanent boots, without, like, permanent or some sort of large contingent of

01:35:57.340 boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands of American forces, boots on the ground in

01:36:02.400 that country.

01:36:04.380 What are we looking at here?

01:36:06.580 Targeted strikes?

01:36:07.500 And that's, we're just going to wash our hands of it and hope that that's the end of

01:36:11.520 it and we walk away?

01:36:13.060 It makes zero sense.

01:36:15.260 So this is going to be an absolutely debilitating war.

01:36:18.060 It would be devastating to the American economy.

01:36:20.100 The U.S. dollar, of course, is already purposefully being devalued.

01:36:25.140 You know, we're talking like $30 Big Macs in the coming years.

01:36:29.160 I mean, that's what we're heading towards.

01:36:31.160 We want to further, oil prices in the streets of Hormuz, like, what will this do to the United

01:36:35.560 States economy?

01:36:36.080 But you hear from the MAGA crowd who, we're now energy independent.

01:36:42.820 So we don't care about the streets of Hormuz anymore.

01:36:45.780 That's inconsequential because now the United States is fully energy independent.

01:36:50.000 And we've done so brilliantly, according to Lindsey Graham, thanks to the president of

01:36:54.760 the United States, that it doesn't matter if the streets of Hormuz are shut down.

01:36:58.000 Because guess what?

01:36:59.420 Like, we're all taken care of now.

01:37:01.300 We're able to start drilling, Trump's drilling program.

01:37:03.860 So don't worry about it.

01:37:05.320 We'll be fine.

01:37:06.480 Yeah.

01:37:06.840 What's China's response going to be?

01:37:08.900 What's Russia's response going to be?

01:37:11.180 What's the Middle East? 0.56

01:37:12.140 What are all of those countries in the Middle East?

01:37:14.140 What is their response going to be?

01:37:15.460 And by the way, what about all the cannon fodder of American soldiers sitting right there,

01:37:19.300 right now, not in fortresses?

01:37:21.380 Because many of these places are like little outposts with very little protection at all.

01:37:27.420 So what's going to happen to them?

01:37:28.900 I guess we don't care about them.

01:37:30.860 Well, it's also, I mean, just to the energy independence thing, I'm very strongly for energy,

01:37:35.600 for oil and gas, for coal.

01:37:36.940 I mean, I believe that completely.

01:37:39.740 However, energy prices, oil and gas prices are set in the international market.

01:37:44.020 So what does that mean?

01:37:45.780 Would you nationalize the energy producers and force them just to sell domestically?

01:37:50.380 Every refinery has to sell its products in the U.S.?

01:37:54.780 Like, what does that mean?

01:37:56.160 If the Straits of Hormuz are closed, if there's disruption to energy facilities in the Gulf,

01:38:02.040 the price of oil as set on the international market, where everybody in the world bids on it

01:38:06.540 every day, all the time, will spike.

01:38:09.620 I mean, that's just a fact.

01:38:10.640 It's supply and demand.

01:38:11.480 So we're going to exempt ourselves from this.

01:38:14.500 How?

01:38:14.920 You would have to say, again, to American refineries, you can't sell on the international

01:38:18.980 market.

01:38:20.060 American energy producers cannot sell on the international market.

01:38:23.260 Like, are we going to say that?

01:38:24.600 Like, what are you even talking about?

01:38:26.340 Who are these people?

01:38:27.200 Like, what are they talking about?

01:38:29.420 Well, they believe that the petrodollar is a thing of the past, or, you know, the sort

01:38:35.320 of Saudi petrodollar is a thing of the past, and that will now in the United States,

01:38:40.380 it will be backed by our own oil in the United States.

01:38:44.720 So the U.S. dollar as a petrodollar will now be backed the full faith and credit of the

01:38:49.220 United States government, which is also $39 trillion in debt, right?

01:38:53.040 So how is that going to play out on the international stage?

01:38:55.880 And will these oil producers, which make bank selling?

01:38:58.500 I mean, just look at, we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline.

01:39:02.120 So what did we do?

01:39:03.280 We sell natural gas to Germany at, what, three times the price that they were able to get

01:39:07.240 it from Russia?

01:39:07.960 And now you're going to tell the oil and natural gas producers that they can't sell

01:39:11.940 it to Germany.

01:39:12.640 They can't sell it to these other places because now there's no shipping lane.

01:39:16.520 There's no way to get this oil and natural gas to those regions of the world.

01:39:19.900 And you're only going to sell it to American consumers.

01:39:22.260 So we're going to nationalize it and sort of, well, we'll subsidize it like the ethanol

01:39:27.240 market, you know, like, and that's how we'll do it.

01:39:29.880 So it'll be a snake eating its own tail.

01:39:32.280 And that's, that's a recipe for success.

01:39:36.160 Let me ask you one last question.

01:39:38.060 It feels like the rhetoric, I feel like such a liberal saying this because I hate when people

01:39:42.840 know the rhetoric is overheated on all sides.

01:39:44.660 But I mean, as someone who's been in the rhetoric business his whole life, and I've added

01:39:49.460 to ugly rhetoric and said intemperate things, I've said incorrect things, I'm, I have been

01:39:53.600 part of the problem for sure at various points, but I've never seen people talk like they're

01:39:58.320 talking right now, particularly on the neocon side.

01:40:02.360 Anyone who disagrees is a Nazi, anyone who's not eager to regime change Iran wants a second 1.00

01:40:07.840 Holocaust. 0.77

01:40:09.020 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's the kind of language where if not slowed, like soon, someone's

01:40:16.340 going to get hurt for real.

01:40:17.940 Do you feel this?

01:40:20.200 For sure.

01:40:20.820 I mean, just look at it on the, you know, whatever you want to call it, MAGA, Twitter, MAGA

01:40:26.180 X.

01:40:27.600 But if you disagree or you, you know, call for the release of the Epstein files that you're

01:40:35.480 somehow, you're somehow a liberal, you're, you know what, you want to hurt the Trump administration.

01:40:41.280 You don't want us to go to war with Iran and you're, you know, shut up and you must be an 1.00

01:40:45.260 anti-Semite. 0.97

01:40:46.420 So you're probably pro-Islam.

01:40:48.680 It's, I've never seen it like this.

01:40:50.980 I mean, I'm, you know, even going back to, I mean, even like, even going back to days or

01:40:55.860 early social media, like it was far, far more congenial, I think, than it has, than it is

01:41:02.480 today.

01:41:02.840 Um, and, um, I think that's why, well, I think that's why you're going to see more censorship

01:41:09.220 because, you know, I, I, I, as much as I love the dialogue, I love the back and forth on

01:41:16.500 real issues.

01:41:17.140 But I think you're going to see massive censorship because they don't want us, they don't want

01:41:22.240 us fighting over the things that they want to carry out, like war with Iran or covering

01:41:26.880 up the Epstein files.

01:41:28.000 Or when you start to prick too closely, you get followed and people tap your phones when

01:41:32.520 you're digging into pedophile networks and these other things.

01:41:35.540 So I think we're going to see more censorship, unfortunately.

01:41:38.900 And, and I think, and I think that's the intent.

01:41:40.880 I think at the end of the day, they want us fighting like this to be as loud as possible

01:41:47.060 so that they can censor us and that they can have total control of it.

01:41:51.600 See, that's out of, too out of control.

01:41:53.340 Too many people calling people Nazis.

01:41:55.120 We've got to control it.

01:41:56.420 You know, YouTube changes its terms of service all the time, adds all sorts of new things

01:42:00.820 you can't talk about on a regular basis.

01:42:03.160 So I think that's where we're heading.

01:42:05.120 And, and toward violence.

01:42:06.520 I mean, first of all, there's, there is some kind of nexus between violence outside our

01:42:12.860 borders and violence inside our borders.

01:42:14.880 I believe that.

01:42:15.940 And in times of war, you know, and around wars, chaos and violence increase here.

01:42:22.760 You saw this during Vietnam.

01:42:25.100 Charlie Kirk was murdered a day after the Israelis bombed Doha.

01:42:28.400 One of the craziest things that's happened in the last 20 years, et cetera.

01:42:31.980 I'm not saying there's a direct connection, but these things tend to flower simultaneously.

01:42:36.520 I just have noted, always noticed that it's a spirit of violence that descends for real.

01:42:43.000 And for another violent acts, you just saw this in Australia, real or not are used as

01:42:52.000 a pretext to strip people of their civil liberties, of their human rights, their God-given human

01:42:56.560 rights.

01:42:56.960 And so I just fear that there will be some sort of domestic terror incident in which actual

01:43:03.560 Americans will actually die, which is a true tragedy, no matter who they are, but that that 1.00

01:43:09.420 tragedy will be used to strip the rest of us of our God-given human rights.

01:43:14.240 And I don't think I'm being paranoid.

01:43:16.240 I'm very concerned about that.

01:43:17.760 Well, you're speaking from historical precedence.

01:43:21.440 I mean, we have a long history of false flags being used to strip us of our civil liberties

01:43:26.680 and to carry out these horribly nefarious things.

01:43:29.720 We just had, I think this afternoon, what's his name from the National Endowment for Democracy

01:43:34.740 admitted in front of Congress that they were there inside of Iran, helping to basically,

01:43:40.900 you know, with their Starlink materials, helping to basically work on this agitation of protesters.

01:43:47.740 And Luis Stefan, I think I like shut him, shut him down, told him shut up.

01:43:52.140 And like, I don't think we should talk about this here.

01:43:53.660 So you literally have an admission that we are involved and actively in these types of

01:43:58.560 stoking of chaos around the world, whether it's people wearing plainclothes things showing

01:44:04.720 up on January 6th, whether it's 9-11 attacks on purpose to strip us of our civil liberties

01:44:11.700 and get us into perpetual wars in the Middle East, whether it's, you know, William Randolph

01:44:17.240 Hearst and remember the Maine and pushing us into war against Spain and rallying, you know,

01:44:24.160 certain purposes there, or whether it's FDR, you know, basically allowing Pearl Harbor to

01:44:31.460 happen.

01:44:31.920 Yeah.

01:44:32.380 Which he did.

01:44:33.240 Which he did.

01:44:33.640 Um, so there's, you're speaking from historical precedents and, you know, I just, I get so

01:44:39.540 frustrated when people think that these things don't happen or that false flag attacks be

01:44:45.420 used as a, as a pretext for stripping us of our civil liberties won't happen or the massive

01:44:51.360 digital ID bio, you know, infrastructure that is coming through, through the likes of these

01:44:57.940 tech oligarchs.

01:44:59.040 Um, it's coming, it's all coming and they've been rolling it out and testing it in places like

01:45:03.620 Ukraine with the DIA app and making sure that everything is targeted and tracked and people

01:45:07.920 can snitch on their neighbors in Ukraine.

01:45:09.520 You know, you can like literally press a button on an app and basically have the SBU show up at your

01:45:14.640 neighbor's house to investigate them.

01:45:16.440 Like that's what they want.

01:45:19.380 And they test it out in these places like Ukraine and they want to roll it out here because as I said

01:45:25.080 earlier, like what Kevin Shipp told me, they want control.

01:45:27.500 And that's the most frightening part of all.

01:45:30.420 We're just giving up control.

01:45:32.100 Every time you did a great piece a few weeks ago on the phones and spying on your phones.

01:45:36.320 It's like every time we take in these little pieces of advanced technology, it's making our lives

01:45:42.420 easier.

01:45:43.420 It's actually sapping of us.

01:45:45.080 It's sapping us and it's taking away our liberties.

01:45:47.160 Part of me just wants to move out in the mountains of Wyoming and, you know, knock down any 6G, 0.99

01:45:54.380 5G towers I see anywhere around me and, you know, just live off the land and churn butter.

01:45:59.780 Yeah.

01:46:00.500 Use them for target practice when you're a 308.

01:46:02.880 Yeah.

01:46:03.400 No, I have that fantasy.

01:46:05.140 Can I say one last thing?

01:46:06.020 I think this is all a fantasy on the part of the people putting together the control grid.

01:46:12.460 I don't, I think that control over other people, over the physical landscape, over the universe,

01:46:18.200 assuming godlike powers is like the desire of every evil person.

01:46:24.080 And I think history is filled with attempts at this from the Tower of Babel till present. 0.89

01:46:30.400 And I don't think it's possible.

01:46:31.940 And I think that people routinely overstate their own power and they think they can do it,

01:46:36.680 but they can't.

01:46:37.320 And I think we laugh at them in retrospect, like you're going to build a tower to the sky

01:46:41.340 and eliminate all different languages.

01:46:43.880 And we like laugh at the Tower of Babel, but we laugh at Mussolini or whatever.

01:46:49.360 We laugh at the Bolsheviks, but, and we will laugh at these people too. 1.00

01:46:53.800 That's my guess.

01:46:55.300 Hope I'm right.

01:46:56.180 I hope so.

01:46:57.600 I hope you're right too.

01:46:58.940 I really do.

01:46:59.720 Then I see these nefarious things and I see all these people drugged out on marijuana,

01:47:04.460 you know, on pot marijuana and they're just like drones, you know,

01:47:08.440 and then once you roll in some sort of like universal basic income.

01:47:12.800 Yeah.

01:47:13.660 You get to be a drone as part of the system.

01:47:16.320 And I don't know.

01:47:19.880 I'm usually a glass half full kind of person and I'm trying to be,

01:47:23.540 but I think the moves in this AI direction is so nefarious and so terrifying

01:47:31.060 that I don't know if we can put this genie back in the bottle.

01:47:34.380 I sure hope so, but pretty soon in the next like five years,

01:47:37.420 people are going to have robots in their houses, like folding their laundry. 0.88

01:47:40.620 Like that is coming.

01:47:42.360 Um, I mean, anyway, Tesla just converted one of their factories in Fremont

01:47:46.600 to be the new, you know, Optimus robot plant.

01:47:49.520 So robots are coming AI and a lot, much larger capacity is coming.

01:47:53.540 And, and by the way, the United States is losing desperately to China in that race.

01:47:57.360 And so you can only imagine these neocons and technocrats that really want to run things

01:48:01.400 are going to be pushing for trillions of dollars in the United States, you know,

01:48:06.340 budget to be able to try to compete with China.

01:48:08.940 And it's, I hope you're right.

01:48:11.200 I hope you're right.

01:48:13.280 I'm not letting a robot in my house.

01:48:15.220 Clayton Morris, it is so great to see you as always.

01:48:17.760 And thank you for your relentless search for the truth, um,

01:48:21.960 your fearlessness and your decency.

01:48:23.600 Great to see you.

01:48:25.140 Well, great to see you.

01:48:26.500 Thank you so much, Tucker.

01:48:27.300 And, uh, incredible, incredible work as always, my friend.

01:48:31.400 Not everyone agrees, but I appreciate it.

01:48:33.440 Thank you.

01:48:34.500 And thank you.

01:48:35.440 Thank you for watching.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - February 26, 2026

Israel’s Sinister Agenda to Use the U.S. Military to Defy Trump’s Plan for Peace With Clayton Morris

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