The Tucker Carlson Show - July 23, 2024


Jack Posobiec: The Trump Shooting and the Coup Against Biden


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2 hours and 15 minutes

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199.27484

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26,967

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617

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary

In the latest episode of The Tucker Carlson Show, Tucker takes a look at the circumstances surrounding the sudden death of President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Donald Biden, and the possible connection between his death and the mysterious disappearance of his brother, Frank Biden. The story begins with a suspicious letter sent to the White House claiming that the president had been diagnosed with dementia, and ends with a story about a man who may have been involved in the death of the president's son, Donald Trump Jr. and his possible involvement in the assassination of a high-ranking member of the Trump administration. Tune in to find out if this is a true story, or if it may be just part of a larger conspiracy, or is the result of a cover-up, or a political smear campaign, or something more sinister, and find out what the truth is really up to in the aftermath of one of the most shocking events in modern U.S. history. Check out all of our content at tuckerclintonshow.co/tuckercarlson and listen to the full show wherever you get your news and views from around the world. Logo by Tucker Carlson. Theme song by Ian Dorsch Download MP3" Subscribe to the podcast (RSS) Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about our sponsorships and become a supporter of our new sponsor, Treavor Partnerships? Subscribe to our new podcast CRITICY PODCAST Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on Podchaser, wherever you re listening to this podcast is available, we hope you'll leave us a review of our newest episode of the latest episodes of the show? Thank you for listening to our latest episode, we make sure you re getting the latest and greatest in our newest episodes? Leave us a rating and review us your thoughts on our newest podcast, and we re making sure you get the most authentic and engaging in the latest in the culture of the highest quality storytelling opportunities in the world, like this week's newest podcast listening to us all over the world! we re not just like that, right here szn=1&referencing us , and more like it s gonna be more like that s gonna get a chance to hear about it, right there s gonna help us, right , and more in the next episode, coming soon, more of your chance to be heard on the next one thank you!


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00:00:00.000 welcome to the tucker carlson show we bring you stories that have not been showcased anywhere else
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00:00:26.300 at tucker carlson.com here's the episode let's start beating what just happened so i'm driving
00:00:34.560 up here to uh undisclosed location one and you know i'm getting these phone calls all of a sudden
00:00:41.480 just like i got random phone calls a week ago that said donald trump has been shot and we didn't even
00:00:47.140 know at the time what was going on and then suddenly i'm getting phone calls from my team saying
00:00:51.240 hey joe biden has just dropped out i'm like what do you mean he dropped out is there an oval office
00:00:55.860 address he's not in the oval office he's supposed to be in rehoboth this very suspicious
00:01:01.300 letter which is signed by joe biden in a signature that is different from all his other signatures
00:01:08.260 gets put out and it says that he is dropping out of the race it doesn't cite a reason it doesn't cite
00:01:15.600 any specifics as to what's going on doesn't endorse kamala harris in the letter itself and it's just
00:01:21.360 posted to his twitter account just x so it's posted up there and we don't hear from him we don't see
00:01:29.280 him we don't see jill we don't see any of the senior staff his senior staffers are the ones informing the
00:01:35.340 cabinet after this so biden himself doesn't even call his own cabinet to talk to them so it's 11 15
00:01:41.600 on monday yes and as of right and by the time this is posted it may change but we have not heard
00:01:46.900 from biden we have not heard from biden or seen biden personally sin no proof of life since wednesday
00:01:53.920 at this event in las vegas where they pulled him out because he was diagnosed with covid nothing there's
00:01:59.680 been no sighting of him at all as as of today i haven't seen anything i haven't heard anything we get
00:02:05.820 all these reports from someone uh familiar with the president's thinking familiar with joe biden's
00:02:12.000 uh you know thought processes someone who claims that they just saw biden but no there's no biden
00:02:18.360 there's no evidence of biden there's no sighting of biden there's no there's no biden taking a selfie
00:02:22.240 saying saying hey america thanks for the memories nothing not a single piece of it closest we have i think
00:02:28.040 is his brother frank coming out to cbs yesterday but not on camera right telling the reporter
00:02:33.260 you know i love my brother and for whatever time he has left yep i'll be glad to be with him and then
00:02:39.580 the biden family apparently comes out and says well actually frank's an alcoholic you can't listen to
00:02:42.980 anything he says yeah that's crazy frank and he hasn't talked to his brother in weeks but that being
00:02:47.320 said even if he did talk to his brother weeks ago and there was a medical condition that raises to
00:02:52.560 that level then then we don't know look that being said though what what he lines up what he said
00:02:57.980 frank about biden whatever time he has left that actually lines up with something that i heard
00:03:04.320 from a a well-placed uh white house official not as high as the inner circle or anything like that but
00:03:11.380 said something about biden asking questions about you know what is it like to have dementia what what is
00:03:18.060 it like to lose your mind and realizing that there's no there's no future for you your future is that
00:03:26.700 is your legacy of course but your future personally is you're going to be confined to a bed and you're
00:03:32.740 going to wake up and maybe not remember not recognize people's faces this type of thing and that he was
00:03:37.220 asking those questions and so perhaps when he talked to his brother he said something similar
00:03:42.900 but it's monday we're in the middle of two wars and we're in the middle of these wars we're
00:03:49.360 paying for these wars americans are fighting in these wars um right now and there may be a third war
00:03:55.380 with iran approaching quickly that's my read on it and there's no proof that joe biden even exists
00:04:01.760 right now there's nothing this is even khrushchev so when when the soviets wanted to get rid of
00:04:07.100 khrushchev in 1964 he was on vacation and he's down in i guess in the republic of georgia now in
00:04:13.060 abkhazia and he's on the beach and brezhnev and all the guys get together in the kremlin and they say
00:04:18.080 okay we're gonna we're done with this guy he's old we're pushing him out this is they go they're like
00:04:22.360 we're not gonna wait for death of stalin on him we're just gonna go in and decide we're making
00:04:26.600 the move to get with the kgb because they were got brezhnev had already kind of maneuvered
00:04:29.800 everything so his guys were in power and they go they run the full unhumans playbook on him and say
00:04:34.620 you're done they haven't come back when he flies back and they said we have a we have a we have
00:04:39.800 meeting to discuss agricultural reports you know and they come in kgb intercepts khrushchev at the
00:04:45.160 airport they bring him in and they hand the letter in front of him and they say this is the letter
00:04:49.860 you're gonna sign it and khrushchev at that point goes you know what i'm old um i always kind of
00:04:55.660 knew this day was going to come so he just goes along with it he just totally lays out they put
00:04:59.820 him under house arrest for the rest of his life he's never seen or heard from again he gets like
00:05:03.580 a memoir that comes but that's the soviet union i mean this is a this is oh yeah a free and transparent
00:05:07.860 country owned by its own citizens whatever go on here i mean so you sort of that's a crazy other thing
00:05:13.720 but what's so bewildering to me is that nobody mentions it i mean i go go look at the media
00:05:19.520 right now if wired.com it's a conspiracy theory to say that this was a coup this was there's this
00:05:25.120 whole hagiography that's going on right now of oh it was this tense decision that biden was
00:05:31.320 grappling with but we don't know any of that oh of course we do we've been informed by people close
00:05:36.020 to his thinking that that uh that this is exactly how it went down and of course none of us were in
00:05:42.800 the room none of us got to see any of this but we're all told no this this is exactly what
00:05:46.240 happened joe biden isn't out there himself telling us that any of it's happened and as
00:05:50.720 actually as of the time of recording we haven't even heard from kamala harris yet who we're told
00:05:55.340 there isn't anything physically wrong with her so why isn't kamala coming out or jill coming out or
00:05:59.660 anyone coming out and just talking to the american people and at least giving us some semblance of a
00:06:06.420 story as to what's going on as someone who's thought for the last few years that this was not a
00:06:10.240 democracy it's an oligarchy um you know the real business conducted in the shadows shielded from
00:06:18.180 public scrutiny by lies and classification laws um you know i thought all that for a while because
00:06:24.080 it's clearly true but to see that all revealed they just took the mask off so what what is shocking
00:06:30.540 what you're seeing is a layer being pulled back and the core is never revealed so in the intelligence
00:06:36.500 community you would you would say all right if your cover is blown or you've got an issue with
00:06:41.000 your cover you've got an issue with our identity whatever it is someone's asking questions about
00:06:44.600 the operation you never come out and say well you got me i'm cia yep yep yep langley sent me no what
00:06:50.760 you would do is that you would you would peel back a layer and say okay you know i may have lied about
00:06:54.400 this thing but but but here's what's really going on but you never get to the full truth so think of
00:06:58.400 it as layers of an onion for example so you never get to the core just one peel comes off and now
00:07:04.740 we're going to go with that so the peel that's coming off right now is yes leviathan does have
00:07:09.640 to show itself in order for this move to take place and that's what's happening so this idea
00:07:15.960 that you live in that they that they promote a lot more than republicans promote by the way that
00:07:20.760 we live in a democracy and the people are the ultimate arbiters of sovereignty and justice in
00:07:24.980 america and we're fighting to protect our democracy by the way we're protecting our democracy
00:07:29.000 from donald trump who's the biggest threat to democracy but this guy well we don't like him
00:07:33.740 anymore so we're just going to remove him and we're going to pull his money and we're going to
00:07:37.540 pull his delegates and then actually the to me the most uh the most interesting thing that i see is
00:07:42.620 when you watch all these these delegates all these delegations are coming out now north carolina has
00:07:46.660 decided they're behind kamala harris and new york says they're behind kamala harris and each
00:07:50.680 delegation starts going this is like watching the election results in north korea because what do you
00:07:56.860 mean the delegates are suddenly for kamala harris the delegates were voted for by the people of the
00:08:01.740 democrat party like 14 million people or something voted in this election and suddenly their votes
00:08:07.820 don't matter anymore it's just it does seem like we're at a point where all of a sudden it happened
00:08:13.840 fast we're we're beyond words and rhetoric beyond politics beyond process even and we're dealing with
00:08:21.540 people who are absolutely willing to kill other people for power like that's real of course and um
00:08:27.160 and to stage a coup against an elected president who supposedly got 15 million more votes in any
00:08:32.820 president where are all the the biden voters but it's like nobody even cares about all that stuff
00:08:37.680 none of that was ever real now they're admitting it's not real and it's just the people with the
00:08:41.760 guns are in charge it does feel that way it's it's 100 true and and this is look i mean we have a book
00:08:47.120 about it and when when you have an oligarchy that is pushed up against the wall which which by the way
00:08:54.080 they are right now and this this is it's a dangerous point but also they would not be doing
00:08:59.040 this if they didn't have to if they didn't have to go up against trump if the assassin's bullet had
00:09:04.960 been one half inch quarter inch to the right uh and things had gone a little bit differently in that
00:09:10.500 field in butler pennsylvania then they wouldn't be have to make these moves because then it would be oh
00:09:15.120 my gosh you know this horrible thing but we're gonna we're gonna trudge on the election must go on
00:09:19.820 america must be safe joe biden is the guy the stable candidate and you'd be hearing the exact
00:09:24.680 opposite from all of them they'd be talking about how great biden is presiding over the funeral of
00:09:29.160 donald trump and maybe a state funeral or something like that to sort of you know appease the the right
00:09:34.360 but but of course never actually give but i wonder if we'll like remember what we're learning right
00:09:38.980 now which is that everything that joe scarborough and wolf blitzer and margaret brennan or you know all
00:09:44.540 these people it's all lies they'll they'll say anything they need to say the democratic party is
00:09:50.860 not democratic in any sense its voters are purely puppets so ritz politicians it's all fake and that
00:09:58.060 maybe we should just never forget that and say it out loud like none of this means anything you're
00:10:03.400 yapping about democracy of rule of law law and order like it's all fake you're totalitarians you'll
00:10:08.680 kill people who get in your way you can never have power and the rest of us should be prepared to make
00:10:12.960 actual sacrifices to prevent you from getting power because we're going to become a totalitarian
00:10:17.720 state if you do i mean that those seem like the obvious lessons to me the the final goal here is
00:10:23.120 the deconstruction of american elections of course and the idea that it's so 2016 if you look at it if
00:10:28.620 you look at it through the unhumans playbook the unhumans lens the filter is that you know these
00:10:34.000 people have taken control and have been in control for you know we could debate exactly when the
00:10:39.520 control point took place november of 63 probably that's a pretty good date that's a pretty obvious
00:10:45.200 one kind of ran just pull it out of yeah yeah and uh and so the idea then is that since that's taken
00:10:51.740 over the national security state has taken over in league with the oligarchs etc etc that every
00:10:56.980 president since then has either had to either come directly from there like george hw bush who was the
00:11:01.820 director of cia before he became president um or been at least acquiescent to their whims and going
00:11:07.640 along with their wars going along with whatever it is that the plan is for the empire and then 2016
00:11:13.380 happens like by accident and because you know who would have thought this guy could come in and take
00:11:18.660 over and so you have this problem you have you're trying to get him out of office the entire time
00:11:23.000 you're trying to like bat him down you know kick him off the beachhead and and get but at the same
00:11:27.600 time you're also infiltrating and you're you're going through the administration you're planning your
00:11:31.400 people in to at least subvert as much as possible so then you get you know people like pompeo and
00:11:35.360 people like bolton get in so they're trying to run a couple regime change ops in like venezuela or you
00:11:40.300 know doing different things in in the gulf for example and so but it never really goes anywhere
00:11:45.420 because at the end of the day he's still not one of yours so then you get rid of him in 2020 then
00:11:50.480 finally uh you have the opportunity to take another bite at the apple somehow the law fair doesn't work
00:11:55.520 somehow all of these things don't work you always know that you have a nuclear option in a situation
00:12:00.220 like that and the nuclear option is like give ever 1963 yeah just murder the guy and but you wouldn't
00:12:06.320 want to do that first and this was something that the east berliners understood and the stasi understood
00:12:11.160 that you can just destroy someone's you can assassinate someone's personality yeah then
00:12:15.500 that's so much easier than just actually killing them because you might break their spirit you might
00:12:19.800 you might turn them into a martyr but you break their spirit maybe you know if you're lucky they
00:12:23.200 commit suicide or at least they just stay out of public view for a lot you know forever you know this and
00:12:27.780 this is what was done to dissidents and opposition in east germany for years and this is what they
00:12:31.600 understood this is why they didn't have to go full great purges of stalin once the 1970s rolled around
00:12:36.340 now you're starting to get mass media you're starting to get television all these tools start to be
00:12:40.100 used and so you destroy someone's reputation with that but then social media comes around
00:12:44.620 and social media you don't have the you don't have those tools anymore and suddenly you don't
00:12:48.960 have control of the narrative the narrative gets lost to you so through social media
00:12:52.840 suddenly people can connect and say hey have you noticed this thing i noticed that thing did you
00:12:56.380 noticed that i noticed that thing but the the media doesn't seem to be talking about this and yet
00:13:00.000 when you could say wait a minute i'm here i can see it this is actually happening in front of my eyes
00:13:03.740 here's a video of it oh by the way and i can show you what's going on in real time through live
00:13:08.720 streams etc etc and so this becomes a massive massive problem and so all you're left with at that point
00:13:15.240 so you lose soft power so the oligarchs lose soft power the machine loses soft power and so they have
00:13:20.160 to go what do we have left we have hard power persuasion doesn't work persuasion isn't working you go
00:13:24.240 force so forces is you might i don't know raid somebody's home and you might say that there's
00:13:29.380 some documents there that they shouldn't have and then handcuffs then convictions but if that doesn't
00:13:37.000 work the nuclear option of november 1963 is always on the table you know hypothetically tucker hypothetically
00:13:44.720 well i think i think we just saw it i do think that i don't want to think that but uh at all it's
00:13:49.340 the last thing i want to think but but let's just move back but i will but i will also say this i will
00:13:53.660 say this that leviathan would not be revealing itself right now if it didn't have to if they
00:14:01.520 had total control total control of the election process total control of the general election if
00:14:06.640 they could just say flip a switch and put whoever they wanted in office they would just do that you
00:14:12.340 would not see any of these extreme measures being reached to if they could just flip the switch so
00:14:19.240 there's a problem something's broken down something has gone wrong because i think what they're really
00:14:23.280 terrified of is a revolt of the people yeah and i think they've got a lot of internal conflict too
00:14:28.380 yes i mean i it's not clear to me i think obama has more power than hillary clinton and the democratic
00:14:34.460 party but i'm not certain of that but he's got the money on his side so the clintons have never had
00:14:38.380 the clintons have always had name but they've never had money right and so that's why they're
00:14:42.680 obsessed with money that's why they do clinton foundation that's why victor pinchuk and the
00:14:45.620 ukrainian oligarchs become the number one for the clinton foundation etc because they have to
00:14:49.220 obama he's got 50 million here he's got 150 million there he's taken care of he's spoken for which by
00:14:54.220 the way is also one of the reasons that um that you don't really see michelle obama making any moves
00:14:59.680 to getting into the presidency because all of a sudden you'd have to explain where the money's coming from
00:15:03.080 well that's exactly right and that'd be a massive downgrade for her anyway um so what happens next
00:15:10.060 biden well somebody resigns on his behalf in any case or this this post appears on x
00:15:17.540 but he does not endorse anybody and that's followed shortly by his endorsement of kamala
00:15:23.560 harris carmela or whatever we're calling her now and and and attributed to him right exactly well
00:15:28.780 exactly right so does she get it like what where do we go from here so so there's a few there's a
00:15:36.160 few ways to look at it um ultimately here's where we go because this is what we've seen play out in
00:15:41.180 in russia we've seen it played out in the soviet union so it's it's like we have to do kremlinology
00:15:45.620 remember the old criminology of the war that that's what we have to do for our own government is
00:15:49.620 andropov dead or not yeah dead is stalin dead you know is this uh don't tell the people until we have
00:15:55.680 a line of succession right you know first scene of death of stalin yeah and and so you know quick
00:16:01.140 grab his twitter account you know something like that yeah and and so what you would then do next
00:16:05.600 is you would talk about line of succession and then you might say create a series of articles
00:16:11.240 talking about conversations that were had before the handover was was taken you might say leak some
00:16:17.420 stories you might have someone running around but you would never actually have jill biden because
00:16:21.740 she's too upset and she's too too angry about what's going on that's why they can't talk to her
00:16:25.560 you'd never have joe biden because of course he's not 100 on board with this at least yet
00:16:30.280 we will uh we have ways of correcting you you know and he's still kind of going through that process
00:16:34.540 none of the family members would at that point other than frank of course who's coming out
00:16:38.320 and going completely off script here the drunk uncle yeah so and then you've got to smear okay
00:16:42.960 he's drunk uncle he's alcoholic you know don't listen to him don't listen to that only listen to us
00:16:47.680 you must only listen to us so control so narrative control already and what you're going to see
00:16:54.000 is whoever is the most ruthless the most brutal the most well-connected and whoever's most willing
00:17:02.420 to knife each other in the back will rise to power so this is we're in the ouroboros snake eating his own
00:17:08.460 tail moment that's going on right now but keep in mind that another snake is always around and another
00:17:14.000 snake is always nearby so the operative assumption for people like me who are you know watching but not
00:17:19.760 democrats and maybe not as informed about what the democratic party really is as we should be
00:17:25.220 is that you know they have to go with kamala because she's sort of black sort of indian and a
00:17:29.600 woman for the for dei reasons it's tough for them to pass her over because of that well you would
00:17:35.100 think that i mean that's my read on it i mean she's a moron in a job she doesn't deserve that's the whole
00:17:40.200 point of dei is to elevate people who don't deserve their jobs to positions of power obviously and that
00:17:45.220 they have to kind of roll with that because the constituencies within the party will flip out if
00:17:49.400 they don't pick her i've just assumed that from day one that's why she's such a problem well but
00:17:55.020 now i'm starting to think 2020 she was never the original pick to begin well i'm aware yeah this is
00:17:59.220 everything you're describing is why she was picked then because in the george floyd moment during the
00:18:03.700 racial reckoning as a sailor puts it that you know he wanted like klobuchar or he was even talking about
00:18:09.460 gretchen whitmer back then in 2020 but then george floyd happens they go full blm and suddenly it's
00:18:14.920 okay we've got to pick someone that you know checks all these boxes for sure and i thought that was
00:18:20.260 you know a mistake and that it puts them in a box that it's hard to get out of but now i'm thinking
00:18:25.820 because i think we've just watched like the most brutal exercise of raw undisguised power i've ever seen
00:18:33.360 in this country um that they they're not hemmed in by that like they really don't care they don't care
00:18:39.220 what their own constituencies think they can just install somebody and because the democratic party
00:18:43.340 is not a an ideological movement it's just a bunch of people clustered together for power um leftism
00:18:49.860 is not ideological that's exactly right it's never been it's a tactic right and spiritual i would say
00:18:54.580 also but but whatever right but it's certainly not ideological it doesn't even matter what the ideas
00:18:58.800 are um but at this point they can kind of put anyone in and if they think gavin newsom has the
00:19:03.100 best shot and he's a white man but like so what well so this is the the the way that the what do you
00:19:08.620 think i don't the way the dei would reflect itself in in a pure power system and pure power politics
00:19:13.600 system is what constituencies can you bring to bear so the fact that she was able to get cliburn on
00:19:20.500 board is huge because cliburn gives you all of the vote processing centers and the inner city churches
00:19:26.760 and he's able to from from detroit to milwaukee to philadelphia to atlanta these are the key centers
00:19:34.220 that you're going to need this of course cliburn of course is uh credited for putting biden in office
00:19:38.600 and many people have have cited his nominee or his endorsement of biden as really being the deal that
00:19:42.960 that won biden it was yeah it clearly was and so i've i've always said and this is something where
00:19:48.500 um uh steve bannon and i have actually disagreed on this where i've said i i don't see how gavin
00:19:54.900 newsom makes it out of georgia i just in in a real primary situation this whatever well of course i agree
00:20:01.100 with you completely however maybe at this point if you let in tens of millions of illegal aliens who
00:20:07.540 are in fact your new voters and you register them to vote which they're doing um it maybe just
00:20:12.620 doesn't matter i mean in the primary i'm sorry of course in the primary but for the purposes of
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00:24:33.600 well the issue is now so that's why you're seeing this race so the race that we're seeing now which is
00:24:41.240 a fake race and everyone needs to understand that like this is this is why obama doesn't endorse kamala
00:24:45.900 harris obama doesn't come out and endorse kamala harris he endorses the process right why because
00:24:52.040 the process has no legitimacy and and nakedly we can see that it has no legitimacy the delegations
00:24:57.200 immediately flip at the at the at the flip of a switch without even hearing from biden there's no
00:25:02.720 hearing there's no hearing from biden we have think about that think about that the delegates who are
00:25:07.380 legally pledged legally pledged to biden who were nominated through the legitimate legitimate right
00:25:13.620 you know their their process their official process all of a sudden switch their delegations
00:25:18.400 without even hearing from the guy that they're supposed to be tied to no this this is obviously the raw
00:25:24.440 the raw sign of leviathan this is leviathan's power leviathan comes in and says you don't work for joe
00:25:31.440 biden you work for me and and what they're using obama for is to give some veneer of legitimacy and
00:25:38.960 credibility to the process so there's an open so he's saying there's an open process i'm not endorsing
00:25:44.460 i'll endorse after the primary which is what he did in 2020 so there's no intention which i think what
00:25:49.200 you're saying is obama when he endorses an open primary which he's done he he knows there will not
00:25:55.200 be an open there's nothing open about this primary it'll already be decided before chicago opens and
00:25:59.980 and i i i think essentially that what what you see here is that the money has all lined up behind
00:26:05.260 kamala the money has said look we know we've got about 100 days left we've got four weeks before
00:26:10.820 the dnc also you've got a huge accounting problem because you can't the 300 million dollars that's
00:26:15.580 sitting in that what was the biden harris account which is now harris for president you know what are
00:26:21.060 you just going to give that 300 million dollars over to somebody you've got you've got to transfer all
00:26:24.640 of this stuff it's going to take a ton of time and you can't do that without the acquiescence of
00:26:28.220 again whoever's controlling biden's signature right now so it's just much easier on that level
00:26:35.260 how can biden remain president of the country same way he's been president the whole time
00:26:40.780 it's not yeah i mean that's no i get what you're saying and and not to digress once again but
00:26:47.900 at this point does anyone doubt 2020 was rigged i mean how can you how can you look at this situation
00:26:53.440 and say that our elections are real yeah you can't that that that election was real but i will say
00:26:58.740 something has changed from 2020 to 2024 obviously covid's not around anymore there's been laws that
00:27:05.740 have been placed on the books in in those states and he's just been in such a collapsed state that
00:27:11.560 what i call the margin of fraud or i'm from pennsylvania originally so we always used to call this
00:27:15.140 sort of the philadelphia margin that you know we would we would go around and count the the different
00:27:19.200 buckets of voters and we'd say okay we're we need about this much we need to run it up here in
00:27:22.920 lancaster and york and some of the more red counties and then philadelphia is going to come in here and
00:27:27.300 we'd look at you know real estate uh property records okay these people are moving in these people are
00:27:32.660 dying etc and but somehow philadelphia would always magically have like three to five percent more
00:27:37.220 it would just it would just be there on election day even though despite our best efforts tracking every
00:27:42.300 single data point you could think of they would always magically have these more voters
00:27:45.140 and so okay well we would just call it the margin of fraud and so that's about three to five percent
00:27:50.300 well biden was polling under the margin of fraud but if you put kamala in is it possible that she's
00:27:57.760 able to pull a little bit higher so it puts her back into that margin this is the real threat so with
00:28:03.980 biden as president to answer your question there it doesn't make any sense if you're not mentally
00:28:09.560 well enough which again he has not stated no one has stated this because it's it's all about
00:28:14.440 polling it's all about the issue of polling that's that because his statement yesterday didn't
00:28:18.800 explain why he's not running for president it would be best for the party and best for the country
00:28:22.960 remember he put party and he put party first i noticed whoever put party first so best for the
00:28:27.140 party best for the country for me to stand down stand down i mean stand down if you're fighting for
00:28:33.580 your country why not just take i mean if you can prevent him from running again you can prevent him
00:28:37.580 from serving now why wouldn't they just take him out or kill him they're they're certainly capable of that
00:28:42.980 i think it's fair to say it would honestly be okay so let's say you're you'd say you're they
00:28:47.880 you're them you're the democratic party it's it's leaders you're the money people the democratic party
00:28:52.500 you would want honestly and you know not to give them advice but you would wouldn't you want kamala
00:28:58.500 harris to have some power the bully pulpit yeah power of some kind of record to her name because
00:29:05.540 whatever record she has the only things that she was associated with the administration other than
00:29:10.440 of this wild series of interviews are the border and oh that little there was that country and in
00:29:16.760 europe and they were having some issues in 2020 oh ukraine right they gave her ukraine and said
00:29:21.600 that you're gonna she goes the one who flies to the munich conference in february of 2022 and says
00:29:26.040 there is no question uh uh on my mind that ukraine will definitely be in nato and well she caused the
00:29:32.160 war in ukraine so putin invades like the next day of course you know because and they give that to her
00:29:36.360 because there's been a shade war going on between biden and kamala from day one of this administration
00:29:41.360 it's very clear we've been reporting out of human events i think everyone sees it now um conspiracy
00:29:46.100 theory right but it's so obvious they hate each other so they were giving her these obviously will
00:29:51.080 fail assignments and say great pin it on her but the problem is that's all backfired now because
00:29:56.040 now if they want her to be the one who's got any credibility who's got who's going to be signing off
00:30:03.420 on things they know she's a complete nut job and so you put something like that in office
00:30:07.920 and there she's going to be signing off on the proxy war with russia she's going to be signing
00:30:12.560 off on the proxy war with iran perhaps the direct war with china who knows what comes next uh this is
00:30:18.760 someone who's totally unstable so what it tells me is that they don't quite have all their hooks in
00:30:23.660 but one of the things that i'm hearing tucker is that there are people in the democrat donor base
00:30:29.960 who are thinking like what i'm saying right now that it doesn't make any sense for us to say she
00:30:35.180 should be president when she could be president right now that if she's this wonderful run as an
00:30:40.440 incumbent i've thought that since july 1st when i talked to a very knowledgeable democrat um of course
00:30:47.120 take biden out make her president she's running from the oval office like why wouldn't you want that
00:30:51.660 the only thing i could think of is this perhaps was part of the deal they made with the bidens
00:30:56.880 we'll let you run out the clock yeah but i mean these are people who are you know willing to do
00:31:02.860 anything say anything i i don't think that deal is going to last i wouldn't think so i don't think
00:31:08.060 it lasts so hunter biden is facing felony tax charges i think in october i think that's right
00:31:13.660 for about five more minutes exactly so you just pardon hunter biden's clean up the messes make sure
00:31:19.620 that jill biden has enough money to live in rehoboth for the rest of her life and it's not hard
00:31:25.440 and take him out i mean it does seem like the logic train leads you to president
00:31:30.720 carmela harris very quickly very quickly yeah and so and it makes sense because that way it
00:31:36.780 it gives you the power of she's the first woman president who how are you you know and you can
00:31:41.780 you can dig into this this chronic propaganda that we've been surrounded by that uh that women are
00:31:47.740 better than men that women should be first that women should have all the power in society well here
00:31:53.220 is the first woman president and how dare you run against the first woman president i wonder if
00:31:58.540 anyone buys that anymore some people do it's it's interesting i mean i i was kind of agnostic on the
00:32:04.840 question but we haven't seen big successes from female leaders and i say that as a as a lover of
00:32:11.340 women but i mean it's at some point if you make a claim you do kind of have to substantiate it and
00:32:16.580 like for example i don't know female secret service agents no i'm just saying like where is the evidence
00:32:20.300 for that i mean i'm talking about specifically political leadership obviously you shouldn't have
00:32:23.920 what we saw on the last saturday in butler township obviously that's that was insane but
00:32:30.180 like everyone you know a female leader political leaders will be more conciliatory there'll be more
00:32:35.760 peace less war you've seen exactly the opposite ukraine war was driven by a woman actually
00:32:40.800 toria newland i hillary clinton is the most bloodthirsty person i've ever seen on the public
00:32:46.360 stage like madeline albright madeline albright a total ghoul no a million a million iraqi children
00:32:51.440 so what nasty and stupid press i know new madeline albright nasty stupid person also but leaving
00:32:57.120 that aside there's doesn't seem to be any evidence for these claims at all in fact the opposite appears
00:33:03.140 to be true unless i'm missing something i mean i guess you're not supposed to say this because
00:33:06.080 there's even some the idea is so important that you can't marshal evidence for against you just have
00:33:11.140 to accept it but i'm a free man and i just don't see any evidence that female leadership is more
00:33:16.980 likely to get us to peace than male leadership i see the opposite evidence there's even some
00:33:20.620 scholarship that you know we actually do have a track record of this because if you look at for
00:33:24.200 example the uh the kingdom of england and so the united so the united kingdom they've had kings and
00:33:29.540 queens for several centuries now and at one point obviously they the throne had real power not not
00:33:34.840 now i'm not really sure the communists seem to have real power in in england right now uh faraj is
00:33:39.100 doing a great job but but that that remains to be seen um there's some scholarship that shows
00:33:45.620 that when england had a queen they were actually more likely to go to war whereas when england had
00:33:52.820 a king they were more likely to seek peace through diplomatic means i'm that does not surprise me based
00:33:58.600 on what i've seen in the united states over the past 20 years so i don't think you know i look as long as
00:34:05.240 we're throwing out all of our standards and norms and traditions and we're starting at year zero which
00:34:10.380 is clearly the goal here when kamala says you know we're unburdened by the past what she's really
00:34:14.580 saying is right that's welcome to campuchia exactly um then we should just be completely honest about
00:34:20.900 everything all the time why not i mean they already would kill you if they could so why not just be
00:34:25.560 totally honest and i'm just kind of interested in this idea of female political leadership being this
00:34:31.320 thing that it it demonstrably isn't and so why do we feel what does the right feel like we have to go
00:34:37.240 along with these pieties which are clearly lies like why let's just stop doing that well and think
00:34:43.060 tucker we were to go back to it again and we'll we'll dig into it some more but we were since we're
00:34:47.780 on the topic we were what half an inch away from kamala harris versus nikki haley that could have been
00:34:54.880 our election right so let's get to the thing that i mean one of the you know i'm not that surprised
00:35:01.820 that the democratic party which did not want joe biden in the first place they wanted pete buddha
00:35:05.880 judge that's right and they put biden in they knew he was senile i knew he was senile because one of
00:35:12.180 his because his sister told a friend of mine that so if i knew as a right-wing talk show host then trust
00:35:17.480 me every big don't jeffrey katzenberg knew i mean come on let's stop lying the germans did did this
00:35:21.680 with hindenburg in 1933 exactly that's exactly like this is the one guy who's kind of palatable
00:35:26.480 but we can control him exactly so it was all he was always late stage woodrow wilson they knew that
00:35:32.260 yes all the surprise they liked that bullshit tucker tucker tucker joe biden is not being pulled from
00:35:38.460 the presidency because he has dementia he's being pulled because the american people found out well
00:35:43.620 of course they liked and he can no longer win right so i'm not that surprised by what they're doing
00:35:49.000 and they're discarding him like a used condom and and i almost feel sorry for him but he's such a
00:35:53.140 nasty evil person that it's hard to feel sorry but whatever i'm not shocked nick nicky haley was
00:35:57.920 nicer or uh christy gnome was nicer to her dog than they are being it's true but those are the rules like
00:36:03.780 it always ends in tears it's not a sentimental business but the attempted murder of the republican
00:36:11.720 nominee you know nine days ago that's we're sort of blowing past that now so let's let's go back to
00:36:19.380 butler township pennsylvania well and and saturday they want us to blow past that because what's the
00:36:25.560 one thing that could knock an assassination attempt out of the news cycle out of the conversation
00:36:31.600 the collapse of an american i think i think that's right so let's just get the sun tape if you don't
00:36:38.720 mind you know given what we know now and i pray we'll know a lot more but as of this morning tell
00:36:46.220 us what happened that day so we've got i've got here senator johnson's office ron johnson of wisconsin
00:36:52.340 has been kind enough to send us a preliminary copy of their reporting into the situation very fresh
00:37:01.040 fog of war caveat caveat caveat on all this stuff yes because this is what's coming from them
00:37:07.800 uh we are told and can i say one thing i think whatever you think of i like ron johnson but even
00:37:13.120 if i didn't he's got he clearly has a willingness to to pull threads in a way most senators are not and
00:37:19.160 he's obviously got some decent investigators on his staff given what he did with covid so i think he's
00:37:24.660 someone who wants the truth of things it does feel that way to me and that he burnt with a burning
00:37:28.840 desire by the way there are two senators of pennsylvania i don't see them no no they're not doing
00:37:33.420 but johnson has people on his i don't know who they are but he came up with stuff during covid that
00:37:38.120 nobody else got so right i think that we should consider what you're about to say in light of that
00:37:43.660 all right and these these are predominantly invested interviews that were conducted through the local
00:37:49.440 police and that that just right off the start should tell you something because if johnson's talking
00:37:55.900 to local police this is the united states senator shouldn't he have direct direct access to the secret
00:38:01.100 service shouldn't he have direct access to the atf to the fbi all of these things and so as as his
00:38:06.460 office has been going through the investigation they suddenly said well yeah we talked to one guy
00:38:10.140 from the atf who was sort of there but then he went dark on us and we talked to a few people at the
00:38:14.080 secret service and they push us to the spokesman like like you're some reporter um you know we talked
00:38:19.300 to a few people at uh at fbi but you know nothing and then so local police is saying whoa wait a minute
00:38:26.200 you know we'll we'll tell you whatever you want to know so why is it that local police are being
00:38:30.420 more forthcoming than our actual government this is why they defunded the police in the first place
00:38:35.460 it's not because they're against police they seek a police state they're against anybody with guns
00:38:41.160 they can't control that's why they're trying to take your ar i mean that's that's the way to
00:38:44.360 understand the goal of defund the police is a national police force of course yeah guys with guns they
00:38:48.600 can control and sharp things come out and said this obviously what's so obviously true anyway i keep
00:38:52.400 interrupting you so number one top line secret service did not attend a security briefing
00:38:57.940 that morning the morning of the event the morning of the event so and we can we can drop back and
00:39:03.560 just explain the whole thing donald trump is having a a political rally in butler pennsylvania this is
00:39:07.500 western pennsylvania about 40 miles north or so of the city of pittsburgh on the same day same evening
00:39:13.780 jill biden the first lady of the united states is holding a dinner event in pittsburgh the context of
00:39:20.320 all this is that the rnc is taking place two days in advance of it and so the rnc is taking out
00:39:26.200 place jill biden's got the event donald trump is at the event both in the same secret service field
00:39:30.860 office area now there's also a lot of secret service down in milwaukee where you and i were
00:39:35.120 yeah at the rnc so secret service is totally stretched at this point it's not like a normal
00:39:41.640 situation the security posture because of this because of the lack of resources is much lower
00:39:47.940 the normal people who who would be around president trump aren't there his a team as they're called
00:39:54.420 aren't necessarily there as much people are spread to all these different locations this is the
00:39:58.660 context we also know that there was a strong theory that president trump would bring his vice
00:40:05.220 presidential pick to that rally and and certainly this was in discussion uh held right on the border
00:40:10.780 of where ohio president trump that morning we now know had a meeting with senator jd vance who went
00:40:16.000 on to become the nominee although that pick was not made until monday so jd vance doesn't end up
00:40:20.260 well i happen to know that that was the plan or one of several plans that was under discussion
00:40:25.820 that's a fact yes and i heard it from like a bunch of different people i heard it from the
00:40:30.780 campaign so this was known right i'm hearing the exact same thing that and and part of partially
00:40:35.840 the forcing function for that is because the vice presidential nominee must be named on the first
00:40:40.200 day of the convention and so the idea is well why not just bring him to a rally and do the do it
00:40:45.620 there and have it be and i haven't quite got have you heard why it was that they decided not to bring
00:40:51.640 him um yeah i have and i think it was just a just a political question where are we going to get more
00:40:58.060 bang for this announcement okay but i do know that as of you know a few days before that was actively
00:41:04.740 being discussed no it's a long way of saying what you just said which is that people watching this
00:41:10.480 had every reason to believe that trump and his vp pick would be right so you see and and of course
00:41:16.160 rubio had just been at an event in trump doral i think a few days before and he was someone who was
00:41:20.840 also very heavily lobbied we'll talk about that later but heavily lobbied um for as vice president
00:41:26.540 from a number of people around that same time period but he had been at a rally in doral and yet
00:41:31.800 trump did not bring him on stage so a lot of people thought that that was sort of the death knell for
00:41:35.880 that that potential candidacy so trump is holding this rally and about 10 minutes into the start of
00:41:43.420 the rally wait first though the secret service didn't even show up at the morning briefing the
00:41:47.680 day of the rally yeah right here secret service did not attend a security briefing provided to local
00:41:53.280 special weapons and tactics swat and sniper teams the morning of july 13th so when you're when you're
00:41:57.800 holding an event like this um going back to security posture um typically you're going to need to staff
00:42:02.580 up so you're going to need extra bodies you're going to need augments you're going to need more
00:42:06.300 cs not counter sniper teams you're going to need all of these things because a huge event outdoor
00:42:10.300 event since november 1963 has always been and will always be the most potentially fatal event that a
00:42:17.900 politician can hold of course and so they know that for one of these outdoor events the first thing
00:42:22.540 you have to worry about is all the tall buildings all the tall implements this is why they're held in
00:42:26.280 fields by the way for the most part rather than like inner cities because cities would have more
00:42:30.160 vantage points you've got windows you got all sorts of stuff dealy plaza you know we can all do the
00:42:34.680 we can all do the math on this and so they bring in augments from state police they bring in augments
00:42:40.920 from the local butler county sheriff they bring augments from the butler township police uh and to
00:42:45.580 say okay you're going to be working with us now every single presidential event is controlled by the
00:42:49.780 secret service and this woman kimberly cheetle speaking of female leadership um it tells us that well
00:42:55.540 these these areas were assigned to the local police and that's just not true um they may have been
00:43:00.240 in areas that were considered outside the perimeter but the secret service has command of every single
00:43:07.180 hierarchy for a presidential visit period full stop so anyone who's brought into this is working
00:43:12.640 through their operational plan so the con op is done concept of operations would be done by the secret
00:43:17.420 service and then disseminated to these teams however we're told that at the basic sync meeting that you
00:43:23.180 would have been having that morning secret service wasn't even there so the local police say okay
00:43:28.260 morning of let's go it's it's the you know like the coach meeting the team before the service is
00:43:32.860 responsible for protecting trump yes but they couldn't even go to the meeting that morning
00:43:37.380 so i let me ask you a question and this is the meeting that's bizarre where you're going through
00:43:41.840 what what frequency are we on guys uh you know hey i'm jack here's tucker we're going to be out there
00:43:49.120 okay you got the building we're going to be in here so you so you would be able to communicate
00:43:52.680 you'd go through a communications plan you'd go through the basic workflow of the day you'd go
00:43:56.720 through your your pattern of life yeah you would you would mention if you i don't know saw someone
00:44:01.360 flying a drone around or something like that that type of information could be disseminated or if
00:44:05.700 there were any local you know local groups that they were had an eye on you might put out a six pack
00:44:10.620 or something like that hey be advised you know these are some of the things that we're tracking these
00:44:14.040 are some of the people that we're looking at if you had something like that this is the meeting
00:44:18.200 where you would do that secret service doesn't go crazy okay then what happens so
00:44:27.060 local law enforcement was siloed no direct radio contact because they didn't go to the meeting
00:44:33.000 they had no way of contacting directly to the secret service snipers who were inside so you've
00:44:38.740 got these police teams outside even during the event they had no way to contact them they had to
00:44:42.620 contact them through an intermediary so you'd set up a tactical operation center or communication i think
00:44:47.540 it was called the butler communication center in this case or the talk so you'd go through the talk
00:44:51.400 and then the talk has a liaison and liaison goes to the secret service and then the secret service
00:44:55.400 has to go through their liaison back to the talk and then the talk goes back to the police
00:44:58.860 as opposed to just being on the same frequency and saying hey there's a guy crawling on the building
00:45:03.140 so who was this guy and how did he get there what do we know about him this individual and i want
00:45:09.800 to skip ahead a little bit in the report because there's there's a lot in this report
00:45:13.160 even by the way let's let me say this real quick section five secret service was initially not
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00:47:57.800 how how does that even happen an outdoor rally with a guy who's the former president united states who
00:48:05.320 is imminently becoming the nominee for president of the united states someone who we just know it's
00:48:11.240 just inherent that donald trump has multiple credible threats to his life at all times for like the last
00:48:16.440 decade or so and they weren't even going to provide counter sniper teams at first to this rally which as i just
00:48:23.400 said is outdoors which is the most potentially fatal the most dangerous position a politician can
00:48:28.360 ever put themselves in we're told the counter sniper team showed up like the day before to actually do
00:48:34.360 some of the casing not you know a week prior and i've done presidential visits i've done overseas stuff
00:48:39.720 with presidents and detail these and you're you're out there a week before you're going through the
00:48:44.120 motorcade route you're checking bridges you're you're doing all that stuff none of that was done here
00:48:49.000 none of it eight days before the rally local police are informed five days before the rally
00:48:56.120 they meet with the secret service and they're informed that the rally will be held at the butler
00:49:00.360 farm grounds three days before the rally secret service conducts a site visit just three days before
00:49:06.280 they conducted the site visit at that point no no counter sniper teams on the day of the rally
00:49:11.000 9 a.m they hold the briefing 46 page slide deck only from the local butler esu local swat and sniper units
00:49:17.960 are there but the staging locations are laid out secret service doesn't attend according to
00:49:23.000 attendees of the briefing no secret service or other federal law enforcement is present for this
00:49:26.520 briefing secret service had not initially intended to provide sniper units but changed course for
00:49:31.720 currently unclear reasons the briefing included an outline of the security perimeter for the event
00:49:37.080 and areas of responsibility or aors at 9 27 a.m concurrent thomas matthew crooks the alleged shooter
00:49:44.840 enters a home depot located in bethel park pennsylvania cctv footage shows the shooter entering
00:49:50.040 alone a couple minutes later he purchases a five foot aluminum dual platform ladder that's the only
00:49:56.280 time we see the ladder by the way tucker in this timeline the ladder disappears after this 9 42 he leaves
00:50:02.680 they identify him 10 30 snipers are in position and this is interesting can i just ask so that morning
00:50:08.760 crooks buys the ladder yes so that suggests he's already figured out exactly what he's going to do
00:50:14.920 he's got an idea interesting okay so the ladder's in place 10 30 a.m two local law enforcement snipers
00:50:22.840 are in position on the second floor inside the agr building the american glass research building
00:50:27.640 so they don't go to the roof of this building they go inside the second floor they sit there they're
00:50:33.480 looking out the windows but they never actually go to the roof or apparently to the back of the building
00:50:38.200 to see where this guy came up 5 10 p.m crooks is first observed by one of the snipers agr sniper one
00:50:46.600 at the agr building and he takes the picture below of crooks not long after that and i'll show you these
00:50:53.000 in a second and they can put up agr sniper one takes a picture below of a bicycle and what appears to
00:50:58.680 be two bags located near the agr building it is unclear what happened to the bicycle and bags
00:51:04.840 after july 13th 2024 and take a look at that so
00:51:09.640 so they're saying that crooks rode a bicycle to the event there's a van that's later found
00:51:19.960 outside the event in sort of the parking area that's about a mile distance from this agr building
00:51:26.920 that's that is crooks's van that van is kept it we're told contains explosives homemade explosives
00:51:36.760 and explosives that are connected to a remote control detonator which is later found on crooks's
00:51:41.320 body so the idea being then if this bicycle is indeed his parks the van gets into the bicycle
00:51:50.040 carries his rifle slings it on you could see the bags in the photo rides the bicycle from where the van
00:51:55.640 is that mile distance to the back of this building okay so then i'm getting to the next part i'm
00:52:00.680 sorry to take this and actually i'm just realizing that i don't believe in the senator's
00:52:06.520 timeline that they have the drone what drone crooks's drone unless i'm missing it he has a drone too
00:52:16.680 it's now been reported that he at some point prior to 5 10 so around around three in the afternoon or so
00:52:27.320 when things are still getting getting prepared he's there with a drone flying a flight pattern around
00:52:33.320 the area of the butler farm grounds
00:52:37.800 this that's insane you can't i mean i just know from living in dc you can't just operate drones around
00:52:43.720 law enforcement it freaks them out no or or don jr told me and i think he said in one of his recent
00:52:49.000 interviews that when his father was at his house for like like an event like a family event and a
00:52:54.760 party that he wanted to put up one of his drones and the software wouldn't allow the drone to even
00:52:59.320 take off because a secret service detailee was in the vicinity my cousin was getting married in southern
00:53:04.680 pennsylvania which is pretty close to where wilmington is and she wanted to have a drone up at her
00:53:10.760 wedding and because biden happened to be in wilmington that at that point she was in that
00:53:15.080 within that 30 mile radius you know the photographers come to her and say hey we can't can't do any drones
00:53:19.560 here this is crazy and it's also sophisticated so the guy's got it seems like he's got a van
00:53:26.360 explosives a bicycle a rifle a drone a ladder a drone a rangefinder a rangefinder i'm going to ask
00:53:34.040 you about that in a second and the guy knew this was coming this wasn't a spur of the moment thing
00:53:39.000 he's buying the ladder that morning and he's making a shot that everyone is sort of i know
00:53:45.480 everyone's like oh it's not 140 yards not that far i think it was it was 140 yards it's a boot camp
00:53:50.200 shot yeah boot camp shot still i don't know i fired that rifle yesterday um you know you kind of have
00:53:58.360 to with no scope he had no scope no scope iron rails are you sure yes he used iron sights to hit
00:54:06.040 someone he used iron sights in the face at 140 yards my take on that and just just my assessment
00:54:12.360 was that he knew that uh because he was lying prone he knew that a scope or an eotech or something
00:54:19.000 would be would present more of a picture to any counter snipers so if you wanted to stay lower if
00:54:23.960 you wanted to stay more out of sight and he's using you know he's using the angle of the building to
00:54:27.880 conceal himself that you you wouldn't want something okay i'm calling bullshit on this whole thing i'm
00:54:32.360 trying not to use for swear words excuse me this is not plausible this kid's a 20 year old
00:54:38.440 much bullied socially awkward weird kid who washes out of the rifle team because he can't shoot he's
00:54:45.320 got no social media profile he his search history suggests no research into any of this and he he
00:54:51.960 already he sounds way too sophisticated and what the videos that they're not talking about are the
00:54:58.440 fact that he appears in this this like black rock ad and and as well as a number of youtube videos
00:55:04.760 regarding computer programming that he was in the previous okay so i know that all that your former
00:55:08.680 military i wasn't even the boy scouts but i shoot a lot i have all my life and i just i just disagree
00:55:14.840 with respect with all the former special forces and cia guys and guys like you i think 140 yards with
00:55:20.840 iron sights hitting a man in the face pretty good shot i'm just saying that i do no one else agrees
00:55:25.080 as a boot camp shot but this guy didn't go to boot camp and as someone who also didn't go to boot
00:55:29.080 camp but shoots a lot 223 a lot including yesterday i think it's a decent shot i do it's it's hitting
00:55:36.360 steel the size of a t saucer at 140 yards with iron sights like that's not i mean i could probably do
00:55:46.200 that but again i shoot a lot well and tucker there's another piece for a guy who's 20 years old
00:55:50.200 like how much range time do you have like where did he learn that there is some reporting so this
00:55:55.960 was his father's gun yeah and so he after flying the drone he drives all the way back to bethel
00:56:01.800 park pennsylvania which is a distance of about an hour both ways so he drives an hour back says hey
00:56:06.920 dad i'm going to take the gun out and the dad later tells media at least as of right now and caveat
00:56:11.560 to all this stuff because we're going off of what we have right now that the dad says i thought he
00:56:17.160 was going to the range so this sounded like that was a regular thing that he did okay then that's
00:56:22.200 i mean it's not a crazy long shot but it's just but you kind of have to commit a little bit to
00:56:27.400 learning how to operate the rifle if you're going to hit it 100 listen to this part because if you
00:56:30.440 want to talk about the shot so a lot of people think that you know he was just sitting there prone
00:56:34.200 waiting for the opportune moment trump happens to turn to last moment that's it that's not what
00:56:38.440 happened what happened was a couple of these local police officers and you know we've gone through
00:56:43.080 the timeline where they take the picture of him they're radioing the messages back and and and
00:56:48.440 trump has trump's team the actual team around donald trump doesn't get any of these messages
00:56:55.880 because the easiest thing to do would would be to say hey let's check that guy out before we bring
00:57:00.600 the president out on stage they never relay the message to trump they never give that to his team
00:57:06.280 his direct body his direct body detail they never hear about this guy so there's a threat there's
00:57:11.720 a threat that's identified an hour prior they're taking photos of him they're checking on him they
00:57:17.160 lose sight of him that's when he goes up on the building we're told and they they're calling in
00:57:21.960 saying hey there's a guy he's got a range finder okay so that's what i want to ask you so will you
00:57:26.200 explain for people who aren't familiar with the device what's a range finder so a range finder is
00:57:31.000 something that somebody might use in uh insight surveying some that someone might use in um in laying
00:57:36.120 out a uh a plot of land or you know a nice barn like this one or something like that and in deer
00:57:42.360 or in hunting yeah and of course in a in a sniper team a range finder is used by the spotter who so
00:57:49.240 sniper teams are always called that because you've got a spotter and a shooter so the spotter is the
00:57:52.920 person who's doing the range finding they might be calculating wind they might be it shows you the
00:57:57.400 distance it gives you the distance away from something you're looking from whatever it is right so
00:58:01.000 you're painting it with a laser and you're saying so if you're if you're trying to protect you know
00:58:05.560 the most controversial political figure in the world at an outdoor rally and someone shows up
00:58:09.960 with a range finder like you can't even bring at the rnc you couldn't even bring your jewel and you
00:58:15.720 couldn't have a vape in there yeah right because it might increase your testosterone and that's a
00:58:20.520 threat um but how do you get a range finder into a protected event that's like the craziest thing
00:58:25.800 i've ever heard so he never goes in through the magnetometers as far as you know there was
00:58:30.680 reporting early on that the range finder was found in the magnetometers but the current reporting
00:58:37.480 caveat caveat caveat is that he always stayed outside the effective secret service perimeter
00:58:44.280 that there's this whole range of fencing by the way for the record i'm not saying anything about what
00:58:49.640 i think right now i'm just this is the official story that so there's this whole setup off to the
00:58:55.320 side of where trump is standing where there's a fence and there's nothing there's no secret
00:59:01.480 service there's a couple of patrols there's these guys in the in the building anybody could
00:59:06.200 have walked up with how does the kid know where that unprotected area is so he's casing the area
00:59:11.480 he's going there prior he's flying the drone he's checking it all out he's up but for whatever
00:59:17.080 reason he just knows to ride the bike directly there and then he's gonna have a direct shot from
00:59:22.120 the top this kid doesn't have a job i mean he's 20 years old he works in a nursing home
00:59:25.880 i'm sorry that's right i read that very very tactically no but and that's right he's changing
00:59:31.960 bedpans by day but he somehow is able to assess exactly the place that's got the height advantage
00:59:39.800 this building and that is unprotected like how would he know i mean the luck involved is extraordinary
00:59:45.320 it's it's more than just that this luck because we're also told and again this timeline doesn't
00:59:51.320 quite have it that at one point the police do the local police the butler police do go out and they
00:59:57.960 send a couple of units to go a couple of guys over to go and say hey there's we think there's someone
01:00:02.520 on that roof we're not sure why the sniper team inside the building doesn't just go and check the
01:00:08.680 roof of their own building but some guys who are on the ground one officer hoist the other officer on
01:00:13.800 his shoulders so he can it's not that high of a building so they hey take a look up there and they
01:00:18.840 couldn't find any ladder from their vantage point they go up there officer sees crooks crooks turns
01:00:26.440 trains the rifle directly at the officer officer ducks down and we're told that again based off of
01:00:32.360 this officer's reporting that at that moment crooks swings the rifle back around and begins firing at
01:00:38.120 trump so this wasn't a situation where he was sitting there lying in wait totally un-intercepted
01:00:45.000 and fires the shots we're told that those shots ring out within seconds of him switching his sight
01:00:50.360 picture back and forth from the officer back to trump so i think again as a non-expert but a
01:00:55.080 lifelong shooter i think that's a pretty adult shot like that's do you i mean you you're in the military
01:01:02.520 being able to to switch the sight picture that far at that range maintain your cool and still get off
01:01:09.080 a shot which has a little bit of connection to to the ear is that's a fantastic shot oh it is right
01:01:15.320 okay good i'm glad someone said i keep hearing you know they're all everyone on television's like been
01:01:19.800 in you know delta force or something and they're all crazy accomplished shooters but for a non-veteran
01:01:25.560 with no law enforcement background to make a shot like that strikes me as although i would say
01:01:31.480 amazing the one thing that i would just add though is that in in in the military and i wasn't like
01:01:36.600 some sniper or anything but very basic level of training um and you know some some mountain
01:01:42.680 training and stuff like that that you're not trained to go for headshots you're trained to
01:01:46.840 aim center mass that's right of course and that's any basic firearms course is going to train you
01:01:51.240 center mass center mass why because the heads turn yeah so you know the head turns you know the head
01:01:55.960 moves around that being said smaller target a smaller target center mass you've got your central
01:02:00.440 nervous system so you've got you've got the brain stem you've got your spinal column you've got
01:02:05.320 lungs you've got heart you've got all sorts of important real estate right here so as long as
01:02:09.080 you're somewhere along that parallel access you're gonna more than likely hit something and you've got
01:02:14.120 you've got more of a site picture so you've got target rich environment if you're going for center mass
01:02:19.800 and and to this point we don't i have not seen reporting on whether or not trump was actually
01:02:24.360 wearing a bulletproof vest that day i don't think he was he was not shot in the chest by the way there
01:02:31.160 was early speculation that he was i asked him directly he said he wasn't um well that was
01:02:35.640 something with reagan too because reagan does get hit and at first they thought it wasn't that bad but
01:02:39.800 later it turned out there was internal bleeding there was other stuff that was going on so how from the
01:02:43.880 the video we we have all seen the counter sniper secret service counter sniper is lying prone and he
01:02:50.520 clearly has the shooter in his in his glasses he's looking at him he does not shoot the sniper until
01:02:57.720 after the sniper has shot trump how how could it a secret service counter sniper look at a man with a
01:03:06.680 rifle 140 yards away and not shoot him i don't understand that so two schools of thought one
01:03:13.640 option is um he thought it was a police officer because remember the local police are supposed
01:03:19.240 to have control of this building and they don't have any communications with local police and there
01:03:24.120 have been so many times tucker at events where someone from one agency because they're dealing
01:03:29.000 with these augments they're dealing with people from me and there's a ton of hsi from homeland
01:03:32.760 security that are there there's a ton of these other local agents you've got multiple agencies going
01:03:37.080 around which even worse at the rnc but i think there's like 130 different agencies that were at the rnc
01:03:41.640 represented so if you don't have good communications because you didn't go to the meeting then you have
01:03:47.560 no way of knowing hey guys it do you have someone on that building or not because i see someone with
01:03:51.960 a rifle doesn't look like a police officer and he's aiming his rifle at the president so the question
01:03:59.160 tucker though is if you know that if you know that at that point why isn't your first call to your
01:04:06.280 detail sitting right with the president and say hold him don't let him go on that stage there's
01:04:12.360 a guy with a rifle pointed at the stage yeah i think which by the way i mean we've all been at
01:04:17.080 trump events or whatever politician events where they show up a couple of minutes late it's never
01:04:21.160 been a person taking pictures they're talking to somebody whatever so who are these i mean have we
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01:05:14.680 so was was senator johnson able to interview them no it's all been
01:05:20.040 kimberly cheetle go to uh go to the spokesman i'm looking through the report again here to see
01:05:28.040 if anything there's lots of questions lots of outstanding questions that the senator's written
01:05:31.480 here oh so this this is if i'm going to say this is the point where the secret service is incumbent
01:05:36.840 on them to prove that they didn't allow this kid to shoot trump because it certainly looks like they
01:05:42.120 did allow it and so i don't understand where you know why there isn't a delegation of senators
01:05:49.560 and members of congress and citizens standing outside blocking the entrance to the secret
01:05:54.520 service headquarters to find you know answer the question you are i think on based on everything
01:06:00.120 you've said they are presumed guilty now they may not be guilty but they have an obligation to
01:06:05.640 explain how they're not guilty and no one is forcing that explanation like what is going on
01:06:10.200 so tucker here's an interesting thing when you look at government so in in criminal justice uh you
01:06:17.320 have the presumption of innocence so the the government has the presumption the evidence must
01:06:22.360 be on their side so they they have to bring the evidence the burden of proof is on the government
01:06:26.520 because the government is bringing the accusations i say when it's the government it's the opposite
01:06:32.040 i would say the burden of innocence is on the citizens and the burden of guilt is well it's
01:06:40.040 certainly with this fact set common sense suggests like this is screw up after screw up after screw
01:06:45.960 up which put together suggest an intentional series of screw ups which would have allowed trump to be
01:06:53.080 murdered and you know whatever else would happen after that so like the fact that they haven't
01:06:57.800 explained themselves and haven't been forced to explain them and i mean forced to explain themselves
01:07:02.200 tells you that things are totally out of control so as we record they can do anything and nobody can do
01:07:06.920 anything about it so as we're recording this um kimberly cheetle is supposedly testifying in uh in
01:07:12.680 front of comers right now and that being said well caveat caveat there might be something that comes
01:07:18.280 out of that the house has started to look into this but i think without question and something that
01:07:22.200 speaker johnson has spoken of which i certainly agree with is that uh this needs to be investigated you
01:07:28.760 you can't murder people the house needs to set up a commission that's 10 times bigger than whatever
01:07:34.840 the j6 commission was you think and we need to get absolutely to the bottom of any of this because
01:07:42.920 when you talk about crooks talk about crooks for a little bit yeah and i i keep this guy wrecking the
01:07:48.520 flow of your of your story here they say that this guy was a total ghost on social media he's not a ghost
01:07:55.560 on social media when he's 20 years old that means he's making himself a ghost that he's got he's got
01:08:00.280 programming knowledge he knows how to use encrypted accounts no he knows how to hide what he's doing
01:08:05.160 online he knows how to use vpns he knows how to use tor he knows all of that stuff tor browser
01:08:10.120 and so he's able to mask what he's doing online now and again hypothetical all hypothetical but the
01:08:17.640 question is how did he know all this information how did he know this did he know that there would be
01:08:22.760 a a low security posture at this event did he know that um that this the secret service would
01:08:29.880 be split between multiple events i don't think every anyone was really tracking that from the
01:08:33.320 outside that hey jill biden's got an event here and donald trump's got an event here and the rnc is
01:08:37.720 right here so secret service doesn't have what's his but i missed the most obvious question which is
01:08:43.560 what's the kid's motive well you know tucker it's it's one of those one of those great times where
01:08:48.440 the government is telling us authorities are baffled as to what the motive might be
01:08:53.480 well i thought they were telling us that iran did it or assad did it within a few days
01:08:58.280 gas trump with his poison gas reserves within within a few days after we get this we get this story
01:09:03.640 about uh right you know gas his own people it was iran when he's winning the war ron did it okay and
01:09:09.080 so we're told it was iran but that being said the iranian that stuff goes back to soleimani that stuff
01:09:13.800 is like some old you know we're going to get you back it's all so clearly manipulative from this and
01:09:18.440 it's interesting that the first country that we get told may have had a role in this is exactly the
01:09:24.920 same country that the leviathan and the oligarchs and the neocons want to go to war with obviously
01:09:30.040 no it's it's also transparently think but like what's has anyone like why would a kid
01:09:37.080 die to kill trump like what is his what do we know about do we know anything about the guy what do
01:09:41.000 his parents say i mean what is this so father there's a news vacuum around the most dramatic
01:09:45.880 thing that's happened in the past 20 years in the united states tucker think about how how this
01:09:50.360 how cnn or regime media would go after a j6 family right they would go after they've got they've got
01:09:56.200 the cousins they've got the sister they've got the brother they're knocking on doors they're talking
01:10:00.680 to everyone who's ever met that person they know your your grocer they know the guy who works at
01:10:05.000 your uh in this case sheets you know they're talking to every single person who may have come
01:10:08.760 and contact you with this i've got a couple interviews so we don't know what his motive was
01:10:12.440 of kids they're not putting out any motive the most they're saying is that they found on his phone
01:10:16.200 photographs of trump photographs of biden searches for the rnc searches for the dnc searches for
01:10:21.960 pornography by the way uh one of his final searches on the day of that wasn't in the timeline but we're
01:10:27.560 told that on the day of he was searching pornography and um i think that's about it and that's all
01:10:36.760 we're getting is there evidence that there was more than one shooter there's a lot of questions
01:10:42.040 the there are some photos floating around very heavily pixelated of something on top of a water
01:10:50.360 tower that we have no idea what that is um it appears to be in some of the photos and some not
01:10:56.920 couldn't tell you what that is there's also some pretty compelling evidence that shows the the sight
01:11:01.240 lines from where he was on top of this agr building uh and then keep in mind by the way we haven't
01:11:06.360 mentioned it but the people actually died at this so cori campatore this firefighter actually was
01:11:11.240 killed so i know there's this like left-wing theory that you know it was all staged and it was all fake
01:11:16.040 but someone did actually die this wasn't a situation where you know trump is calling him up saying uh you
01:11:20.920 know tommy you know i know you're the best sniper in the world so just just the ear tommy just no it's
01:11:28.440 it's ridiculous when you actually it's my favorite conspiracy theory about all of it but in terms of
01:11:32.520 in terms of it it we don't have any evidence of any other snip shooters at this point but we also
01:11:38.280 have a striking lack of evidence about this shooter at the same time so ron johnson in in
01:11:44.920 interview yesterday said that there was some as yet unidentified man in a gray suit yes who showed up
01:11:50.840 on the scene as told witnesses to send photographic evidence pictures and video to him of the body of
01:11:58.280 the body so tell us what we know about this so and this this is spoken to and reports all over the
01:12:03.080 place now but this is spoken to in the report where they're told there's this man in the gray suit
01:12:09.160 and that the man in the gray suit was later identified as somebody what it looks like because
01:12:12.360 he had a 215 number that's the philadelphia area code familiar because everyone i grew up with had a
01:12:16.840 215 or 610 area code um that stated to be from the atf's philadelphia office they requested the
01:12:25.080 photos of crooks for facial recognition purposes it's more of an fbi thing but okay the staff
01:12:31.400 called the phone number confirmed that it was associated with the atf however in subsequent
01:12:36.520 attempts to establish further talks with the individual with that number senator johnson's
01:12:40.040 staff received the following email and it's you know it's just total boilerplate you know direct
01:12:46.040 all of your questions to our main office our main spokesman this is an ongoing investigation
01:12:50.760 we'd like to coordinate our request blah blah blah blah blah so this guy's gone totally dark
01:12:54.520 whoever this man in the gray suit was who happened to be probably one of these augments from the atf
01:12:59.480 office he's sent out there at the same time that apparently we can't get any extra secret service
01:13:05.160 we can't get anyone from all the other offices you're relying on local police to secure obviously
01:13:09.800 the most opportune building to connect an assassination shot from president trump that's
01:13:16.760 completely unguarded from the roof has nobody on it nobody thinks to put anybody on it like i mean
01:13:22.440 i don't know about you tucker but when i go to these events every time that i've gone to a
01:13:25.640 presidential event i'm thinking especially if it's outdoors i'm thinking that building that building
01:13:29.320 that building that building this thing over here this is by the way when you see the uh you know
01:13:33.480 when they hang the flags from from cranes and stuff like that or or they might have some farm equipment
01:13:38.120 up or the um you know the fracking wells that were used in the butler the butler rally from 2020 by the
01:13:43.640 the way those are meant to be security implements in addition to decorative they are they're also used
01:13:50.280 for concealment of potential snipers so okay you've got a guy who could be on this building great put a
01:13:55.560 flag in front of it so now you can't see so now that building is it's not completely protected but
01:13:59.960 it's at least less of a threat than it could be this building from there to the stage nothing
01:14:05.640 what makes me feel that things are completely out of control in this country is eight days later nine
01:14:11.640 days later we still can't answer the most basic questions about any of this and the people who
01:14:17.800 are in charge of protecting donald trump's life have not answered the questions they haven't been
01:14:23.000 held to account pretty obviously never will be it it does feel like there's no recourse like they can
01:14:29.160 just murder a guy or allow his murder and the rest of us just have to sit there and be like yeah that's
01:14:33.720 kind of how it goes like that's not the country you want to live in at all that's not the country it
01:14:38.440 was five years ago what is this we've held one fbi briefing we had one fbi briefing like
01:14:44.120 the day of explaining what happened where are the daily briefings right when there's when there's a
01:14:49.560 fire in in downtown whatever city inner city you're getting at least two three briefings maybe what
01:14:56.040 happened a fire or a mass shooting this okay where's the day two briefing where's the day three
01:15:00.200 briefing where's the okay we brought the parents in for questioning uh all by the way one of the oh i
01:15:05.720 left this out one of the things that he was searching ethan crumbly remember ethan crumbly no
01:15:11.560 ethan crumbly was the school shooter where his parents later got charged for giving him access to
01:15:17.320 the gun so in this situation his parents also gave him access to the gun he may have been looking up
01:15:24.360 whether or not his parents would get charged for what he was about to do and on his steam account the
01:15:30.280 video game uh online platform he posted july 13th will be my premiere do we have any indication of
01:15:41.480 what drugs he may have been on so at this point no total radio silence however both of his parents
01:15:50.040 were behavioral counselors licensed so certainly people who would have access to all the finest ssris
01:15:56.840 uh so there does seem to be an action and there were some searches found on him from for major
01:16:03.560 depressive disorder which is an actual set phrase that's not just i'm looking up about like the
01:16:09.400 average person might say hey i think i'm depressed what are the signs of depression what are the symptoms
01:16:13.720 of depression but someone who knows that set phrase major depressive disorder like oh i don't know if
01:16:19.000 your parents were both behavioral counselors who had access to to doctors access to these type of
01:16:23.960 medications you might know to use that phrase okay what do you think happened
01:16:32.760 you know tucker there's there's one thing to go off the evidence right and there's one thing to go
01:16:36.760 and sit there and say okay this is all the evidence we have none of this adds up i've never seen anything
01:16:42.360 like it i've never heard of anything like this about someone it sounds ludicrous to me that the guy
01:16:47.560 rides up with a bicycle and the bicycle and look at the picture it's just a regular rifle bag sitting there
01:16:53.320 on the bicycle anyone who's shot a gun ever could look at that and say well yeah yeah you know that's
01:16:58.440 what that is there's a black gun in there you know and and oh by the way you know nobody else is
01:17:02.440 riding bicycles around here with backpacks flying a drone with a rangefinder it's like what else did
01:17:07.160 this guy need you know a big sign that says i am the sniper and pointing it down at him it's like and
01:17:11.720 they see him an hour before an hour before an hour before half hour before 15 minutes before 10 minutes
01:17:16.840 prior before trump comes out 6 11 by the way is when the uh when the bullets are fired and so then
01:17:22.600 we're told this is key and actually i'm setting all that stuff aside because that's not actually where
01:17:29.240 i'm focused on on what i want to know more about i want to know more about these explosives why haven't
01:17:34.760 we seen any pictures of the explosives why haven't we seen or even heard any information about how
01:17:41.320 sophisticated were these things we're told they were remote controlled detonated because they said they
01:17:45.560 have a detonator we've seen pictures of the detonator also provided by local police by the
01:17:49.240 way not the federal enforcements so if this kid knew enough to build remote control bombs you really
01:17:55.320 think that he's just doing that one time you think that's just the first day that he was going to
01:17:59.160 build some bombs this morning and drive down to the trump rally no no this is something that he had
01:18:03.320 been planning this is something that he had been in preparation for this is something by the way
01:18:08.360 when typically we see especially when we know if he's using encrypted accounts if he's using
01:18:13.720 if he's using uh the internet in the way that he's able to at that level that perhaps he's in
01:18:19.400 communication with somebody through those accounts perhaps people who know how to build bombs we don't
01:18:24.040 know okay we don't know my question is i want to see the level of sophistication on these bombs and i
01:18:29.640 want to see if this is something that he was able to actually pull off on his own because we don't have
01:18:34.600 answers about the pipe the pipe bomber from jan 6 by the way the pipe bomber who oh by the way was
01:18:39.720 directly connected to someone who never acknowledges it what was her name again oh
01:18:42.920 right kamala harris so the pipe bomb was found directly outside the dnc kamala harris is inside
01:18:48.600 her secret service detail again secret service is right outside is informed of the pipe bomber the
01:18:55.000 same way the secret service was informed of the sniper and yet doesn't respond and we have them in
01:19:00.920 video darren video darren beady and revolver have the great video of this where the secret service is
01:19:05.240 just letting people walk around in front of this pipe bomb and kamala harris is inside yet she has
01:19:09.640 never publicly acknowledged the surreal pipe bomb threat to her life right why why aren't we hearing
01:19:16.360 that why don't we hear kamala harris uh nominated to be president after surviving an assassination
01:19:20.840 attempt on her life on january 6th why have you never heard that phrase from the media not one time
01:19:25.160 not one why wouldn't you because it's fake because it's totally fake yeah and so again we have another
01:19:29.320 situation where explosives are involved there's the shady atf maybe agent in a grant in a gray suit
01:19:35.400 the secret service is involved uh kamala harris is like tangentially involved because she's the one who
01:19:40.680 somehow seems to be the beneficiary of all of this all of these things um at least in in the current
01:19:46.040 moment and we're also told by the way explosives at the house so like like what kid is like i've got
01:19:53.000 kids they're not that they're not 20 but if my kids are making bombs i'm gonna know about that like
01:19:57.560 i'm gonna say hey what are you working on son right you're making some bombs you know am i gonna
01:20:03.800 am i gonna show them a better way to run that circuit no you know i'm gonna say hey don't do this like
01:20:08.840 this is what's going to put you on a list so are you suggesting you think the biden administration
01:20:15.320 which was responsible for trump's security allowed this to happen
01:20:22.200 it's not outside their own possibility
01:20:23.640 it's just not and i think as and i think as uh i wouldn't necessarily say it was biden's call
01:20:30.280 though that's the part that i right that i might have hesitation i mean one of the weird quirks of
01:20:35.400 our system is especially now the biden administration is the name but that's not actually the first course
01:20:40.520 but donald trump is running to displace you know the democratic party from its position of power
01:20:46.600 but the party controls his security let's say you knew let's say very weird let's say you knew
01:20:53.720 that security posture wouldn't be doing well back then let's say you knew that um that secret service
01:20:58.600 was stretched then let's say you knew for example that trump's normal team wasn't around him the
01:21:02.680 people that are used to the type of threats that come around when donald trump is in is in town and
01:21:06.440 holding a rally and let's say you also and keep in mind that when you're talking about fbi when you're
01:21:11.160 talking about loners like this um you know my mind i'll just say this my mind keeps going back to
01:21:16.600 the garland texas shooting so you might remember this they they it was like pamela geller and they
01:21:21.000 did very well yeah draw the draw muhammad actually i know some people who were there um that uh very
01:21:27.320 well people who were there that uh was then later attacked by a couple of these like a couple of these
01:21:32.360 local locally trained locally home homegrown domestic terrorists who were um supposedly in support of
01:21:39.000 isis at the time well we know that there were two guys who opened fire and that the two guys
01:21:45.640 uh were both shot and killed and we know that um and they were killed before anyone was everyone else
01:21:50.040 was able to be killed inside the garland texas 2015. but did you know about the fbi guy in the car
01:21:55.800 behind them directing the whole thing that had texted tear up texas that this entire thing elton simpson
01:22:05.480 and this came out by the way because they had a third friend who was later charged with like
01:22:09.880 financing all of this that his lawyer uncovers text messages and communications and discovery
01:22:17.480 about an fbi employee as well as multiple informants that are all involved with this
01:22:23.560 mosque that they're attending in the phoenix area and one of the agents or one of the one of the
01:22:28.280 employees is paid like 132 000 over the course of years to befriend these guys and to push them in
01:22:35.320 this direction of radicalization and then we're told that and all of this comes out in in the lawsuit
01:22:41.160 by the way completely thrown out based on standing grounds sovereign immunity that not only
01:22:46.920 think about it for years we were told that these were just a couple of nut jobs trying to shoot up
01:22:51.080 a uh you know a conservative muslim muhammad event whatever that not only is there an fbi guy
01:22:59.240 talking to them and the intercept by the way used to report on things like this and he's saying tear
01:23:05.320 up texas he's inciting them to violence knows that they're going to the event and is sitting in the
01:23:11.480 car behind him behind the two of them when they open the initial photo that was reported by local
01:23:18.440 law enforcement uh of the event was taken by the fbi asset who was sitting in the car that's how we
01:23:25.480 that's how we was able to get the photo because he was right there you know wow what a great shot you
01:23:28.360 know a photographer at the trump rally of course well the new york times was there and you know
01:23:33.240 obviously that's at the beginning of the rally that's when the photographers always come in and
01:23:37.080 then they're usually the photographers leave after a couple of minutes there's like the set period when
01:23:40.520 they come in and then they leave from that directly under the ground shot kind of interesting that
01:23:46.280 that's when the shots were fired but you know let's you know let's leave that aside that
01:23:52.360 he was sitting in the car behind the garland texan shooters when it took place when that
01:23:56.840 happened tucker he fled he was actually stopped by local police and arrested said why are you fleeing the
01:24:01.480 scene and he said well i saw shooting i didn't know he was he was put in handcuffs at one point
01:24:06.040 later came out years later this guy was an fbi asset he'd been talking in the entire time comey
01:24:11.240 wiped the entire thing under the rug so there's there's precedent for this and um i think january
01:24:19.160 6th is the perfect example we've never gotten accounting of how many federal agents were in
01:24:23.640 the crowd but an enormous number way disproportionate to any other event i've ever heard of in washington
01:24:30.120 um and it was to some extent organic to some extent it was a setup that's my uh one of here and
01:24:37.080 pretty well-informed opinion of that so like it's not this is kind of thing that's happened before
01:24:42.520 one of the questions one of the questions that i would add to the senators list here and it's a good
01:24:46.520 list and they've done great work but one of the questions that i would add that i don't see so we
01:24:49.960 keep getting told there were sniper teams there were counter sniper teams local law enforcement
01:24:53.480 sheriffs blah blah the whole list but then we're told that there was an atf agent who shows up in a gray
01:24:59.480 suit with no credentials no credentials oh so you mean like he wasn't in uniform you mean like he wasn't
01:25:06.360 wearing a you know the blue jacket with the yellow lettering that we've all seen that says atf
01:25:11.240 so does that mean he was plainclothes so does that mean he was in fact undercover so if this guy was
01:25:16.600 there plainclothes as federal law enforcement how many potential other law enforcement types did they
01:25:24.040 have in the crowd that day at butler no one's even talking about that yet so that's the main thing
01:25:31.240 that we need to be asking to chris ray to others was this guy who was conducting all of these searches
01:25:36.920 who was doing site surveys who was buying ladders who was uh flying a drone overhead was he on your
01:25:43.240 radar was he someone that training for an ar-15 training for potentially taking out a president
01:25:50.040 was he on your radar i mean this is why we have the fbi right this is why we have we pay for all these
01:25:54.200 things and we're told that oh well we need the surveillance state we need the patriot act we need all of this
01:25:59.000 because it's keeping us safe and it's keeping trump safe so you just came from the republican
01:26:05.640 convention in milwaukee yeah i didn't hear anybody talking about this including including the former
01:26:12.280 president um and and i do think i don't know but my sense is he you know he doesn't want to stoke more
01:26:19.400 division than we already have on the other hand someone who tried to murder him came incredibly close
01:26:25.160 and at very best the biden administration allowed that to happen whether intentionally or not but
01:26:30.120 they allowed that to happen they didn't have a briefing that morning they didn't i mean it was
01:26:34.200 negligent to the point of criminal behavior and for me it comes back to the fact that the the two pieces
01:26:40.920 in addition to the no briefing no briefing the fact that no one was on the roof at any point
01:26:47.800 other than apparently this thomas matthew crooks and then finally once all law enforcement
01:26:54.440 around the event knew that there was a problem knew that something had gone wrong and trump is
01:27:01.000 still backstage i know the first call you make is to his detail and say hold him well right that's
01:27:08.760 the point they allowed this to happen again maybe unintentionally maybe very much intentionally but
01:27:13.720 he's allowed to go on stage but they allowed it to happen right so that's just a fact not contested
01:27:20.360 and yet even republicans are like maybe it's too much for the american mind to digest you just don't
01:27:26.200 think of your country as a place where that could happen but why aren't the more i think about it the
01:27:31.560 matter i get and the more afraid i get i didn't see anybody with that view in milwaukee and i don't hear
01:27:38.040 anyone with that view in the media like why are we ignoring this and you could hear this as well from
01:27:43.720 a lot of people just saying hey we support the secret service we support the secret service
01:27:49.160 secret service great that being said i will say and you may not have seen this there was a moment
01:27:53.160 where kim cheetle come the head of the secret service arrives right in milwaukee goes into the
01:27:59.640 five-cert forum and is surrounded by senators and attendees and delegates and they just start
01:28:05.560 screaming at her they just start absolutely laying into her yeah but that's the point where someone
01:28:10.120 makes a citizen's arrest and says you know i'm sorry this is the guy got shot in the face because
01:28:17.640 of your at very best negligence yes it doesn't seem like maybe americans or maybe conservative americans
01:28:25.720 or non-liberal americans or whatever people i know are just not good at drawing the line like this has to
01:28:30.840 be the line you cannot allow this or they're gonna shoot you i mean that's just super obvious to me you
01:28:36.520 cannot allow this or is that that famous sole citizen quote you know they they arrested a
01:28:41.240 third of the population of leningrad or something and looking back from the gulag we all wish that we
01:28:47.400 just said no do you know what i mean and like put up a bit of a fight well and how and how would those
01:28:52.840 officers have felt if they were the ones who were terrified of what what would happen when they went
01:28:57.240 home well exactly so i don't know i don't think that we're thinking about this enough like this was a
01:29:03.560 one of the biggest things that's ever happened in this country the the i don't want to say republicans
01:29:10.600 but the the the side of the people the side of uh freedom you must team humanity whatever you want
01:29:19.080 to call it um you can't let this go you can never let this assassination attempt go until we have the
01:29:27.080 bottom of it look what they did to kyle rittenhouse okay tucker look what they did to kyle rittenhouse and
01:29:31.240 you were there i was there um in terms of the investigation we have every piece of video
01:29:35.240 footage from that day oh yeah was brought up we have every piece of data the fbi held a plane that
01:29:41.320 was flying overhead that was covered i'm certain by the way was also collecting cell phone information
01:29:46.440 that's one of the reasons that they kept this thing secret for so long oh and oh by the way the fbi
01:29:50.600 agent's testimony was uh was done in the blind and then later stricken from the record and then oh we
01:29:56.280 can't find the tapes of his actual uh you know his actual deposition so the fbi had footage overhead
01:30:03.800 of what was going on they did all this to kyle rittenhouse who just defended himself who's a regular
01:30:09.720 kid who defended himself and defended his town because he saw marauders coming in and trying to
01:30:15.560 destroy everything and so we get all the footage we get all the investigation we get the prosecution
01:30:19.240 we get everything that comes out of it and yet donald trump seems to be very likely to be the
01:30:26.440 next president of the united states and we're told to just let it go it makes no sense now if you care
01:30:32.360 about your country and if you care about power then what you would what you would do by the way is and
01:30:38.920 this gets a little dark but what you might do is to say all right
01:30:41.880 we've shown him how close we can get now we're going to start putting people around him
01:30:52.280 that we want him to listen to yeah well that that process has already begun
01:31:06.520 okay so you just said um that if you were trying to take control of the united states government
01:31:18.120 and you thought that trump was going to win or it was too much trouble to
01:31:22.360 to shoot him again uh that you would try to subvert the movement from within yes let's just back up
01:31:28.360 one step if trump had been successfully murdered that would have pleased a lot of people i hate to say
01:31:34.840 that but it's true what do you think would have happened then civil war yeah i think that's
01:31:40.040 unfortunate i mean i i think that you know i think that at the convention it was something that
01:31:45.320 i didn't want i wasn't ready to say it yet publicly it's so awful and so i was you know doing the shows
01:31:51.960 and i was talking about it and you know it's kind of a rah-rah event and you were there it was it was
01:31:56.120 fun it was very it was fun but at the same time in the back of my head i'm thinking
01:31:59.960 this would never have happened that something would have broken out and if if that bullet
01:32:08.440 had been two inches to the right i mean you'd be looking at massive uprisings all over the country
01:32:13.000 you know i that was my first reaction too but then i thought um you know in order to rise up against
01:32:18.920 something you have to be organized well and and and and well that's exactly right and if you really
01:32:25.480 think about it yes you know trump voters have lots of guns um but they have no way to communicate with
01:32:34.200 each other we'll talk here's what would happen design here's here's what would happen is you would
01:32:38.440 see you would see pockets of uprisings um probably around mar-a-lago different things like that and
01:32:44.520 certainly different swaths of the country we can all do the math on where that would be and
01:32:49.800 they would be put down and those people would you know so you take january 6 and then that operation
01:32:57.400 that was run on people who attended january 6 would be run nationwide of course on every trump
01:33:03.400 supporter becomes a member of the militia you're a member of the insurrection not because you went to
01:33:08.360 january 6 but because you're a trump supporter you're a potential extremist every white man in america is
01:33:12.920 a suspect so the election is done at that point yeah the election is done so you're not voting it's
01:33:17.480 not a real election sure you go through the motions the same way they're going through the motions of
01:33:20.920 this fake you know open primary open process that obama's talking about but it's not real so you would
01:33:27.080 you would have it set up or it's a fait accompli where you've now criminalized your entire opposition
01:33:31.640 nationwide and you're sure there'd be there'd be fighting there's no question there'd be fighting
01:33:36.360 there'd be bloodshed um but i do think because of the lack of organization and because look uh you know
01:33:43.080 despite what the media might tell you that republicans generally aren't insurrectionists
01:33:47.080 like people aren't actually just the opposite they believe in the system they like the system
01:33:51.400 that we had for 250 years it worked imperfectly but still better than anyone else's system
01:33:56.920 and these dark forces have destroyed the system and it wasn't the right that did that you know it
01:34:03.800 wasn't actually no it certainly wasn't and and so you see this through and by the way this is what
01:34:08.360 these dark forces do in any system where they wanted to whether it be uh pre-revolution france
01:34:13.960 whether it be russia whether it be spain in the 1930s whether it be um of course china in the 1920s
01:34:21.320 30s 40s etc going up to the founding of the people's republic of china this is what always
01:34:25.720 happens so you see the infiltration through the institutions you see agitation by the way you see
01:34:30.600 direct operations run on the military like we saw in the russian revolution that it was the military that
01:34:35.720 was really heavily targeted and many of these units were used for radicalization so the deserters from
01:34:41.960 the imperial army become the first units of the red army right but instead of the guns pointing
01:34:47.400 towards germany the german agent uh lenin is then able to use them to turn their guns towards
01:34:53.720 saint petersburg and so this this level of subversion this level of infiltration now of course
01:34:59.560 it's done differently now um and so because revolutions are different because warfare is
01:35:04.120 different so it's not third generation warfare anymore fourth generations fifth generation so
01:35:08.360 we wouldn't expect to see literal civil wars you would see things playing out some kinetic aspects
01:35:14.040 but mainly online so online state power regime power and pockets of that's right and to continue
01:35:20.920 the analogy there's always a kerensky who you know promises to return to like the sensible center but
01:35:26.840 actually unwittingly or not is abetting the revolutionaries yeah i think kerensky just got
01:35:31.640 taken out yeah well maybe that's maybe that's right um but i certainly see a lot of them on the right
01:35:37.640 i mean there were there were republicans yesterday mit romney was one of them who were
01:35:42.520 sort of sending out tributes to joe biden for his selfless act on behalf of the nation
01:35:47.720 when it's not even clear that he had anything to do with it at all it was just transparently
01:35:52.440 non-democratic would happen yesterday transparent when you're part of someone like mit romney
01:35:57.480 to you know to endorse that is so dark like how can that guy be a senator much less a republican
01:36:03.720 senator meanwhile at the same time you've got aaron sorkin running around in op-ed saying that
01:36:08.760 that the democrats should nominate this before we knew about that biden dropped out but yesterday
01:36:12.920 morning aaron sorkin has this huge piece saying that mit romney should be the nominee of the democrats
01:36:18.360 to put him in and so this goes to show you that at the end of the day they don't care about the r
01:36:22.680 they don't care about the d they don't care about whatever ideology they claim to play to be about
01:36:28.520 it's all about power it's all about the club it's all about leviathan it's all about the machine and if
01:36:32.920 you are going to keep things going if you're going to keep the machine going if you're going to keep the
01:36:36.520 permanent state going in the permanent managerial class whatever everyone's got these they're like
01:36:40.360 their own name for it whatever what you want to call this system that you're going to keep
01:36:44.040 keep that going, you're our guy.
01:36:45.720 So you got to wonder,
01:36:46.940 I mean, this is unknowable,
01:36:48.420 but Nikki Haley,
01:36:49.660 who cheered the violence of the BLM riots
01:36:52.160 as Mitt Romney did as well.
01:36:55.020 Like, what do you think she thought
01:36:56.240 when Trump got shot, honestly?
01:37:00.340 Tucker, I think Nikki Haley is an opportunist.
01:37:02.860 I think she's someone who's incredibly ambitious.
01:37:04.980 I think she's willing to go
01:37:06.140 whichever way the wind's blowing.
01:37:08.540 And I think Nikki Haley's first question
01:37:10.800 probably was how bad is it?
01:37:13.120 Yeah.
01:37:13.360 Because she knew that the same forces,
01:37:16.820 by the way, that were trying to block J.D. Vance
01:37:18.800 from becoming vice president
01:37:20.280 would all have lined up
01:37:22.620 behind a Nikki Haley candidacy at the convention.
01:37:26.600 So we've got the Civil War aspect aside.
01:37:30.860 Let's say what happens to the primary.
01:37:32.960 It would have come down most likely
01:37:35.280 to Nikki Haley versus Don Jr.
01:37:38.960 I think that Don Jr. would have kind of inherited
01:37:41.200 certainly the sympathy and also the legacy.
01:37:44.800 He's got the name.
01:37:46.120 Everybody knows that he's his father's biggest supporter.
01:37:49.220 And, you know, he's got the name ID
01:37:50.900 to actually do that.
01:37:52.460 So I think you would have seen
01:37:53.420 the Trump grassroots base
01:37:54.720 line up behind Don Jr.,
01:37:56.060 but you would see the oligarchs.
01:37:57.580 You would see the power.
01:37:58.600 You would see the money.
01:37:59.580 A lot of this lining up behind Nikki Haley.
01:38:01.080 As they were before.
01:38:02.820 I just don't understand the utility
01:38:05.400 or the wisdom in keeping people
01:38:07.460 like Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo around.
01:38:09.380 I mean, I had a friend once
01:38:10.740 with an awful girlfriend,
01:38:12.980 and she was just not a good person at all.
01:38:15.880 And he married her,
01:38:16.680 and she became an awful wife
01:38:18.040 and then wrecked his life.
01:38:19.980 And I'm not saying that people don't change
01:38:22.060 or redemption's impossible.
01:38:23.180 Clearly they do, and it is.
01:38:24.760 But it's unwise to keep bad people around you.
01:38:28.560 It's dangerous, actually.
01:38:29.760 I don't understand why Nikki Haley
01:38:33.020 or Mike Pompeo, who's a criminal,
01:38:35.200 would be speaking at the Republican convention.
01:38:37.660 That's not unity.
01:38:39.440 That's a threat to you and to the country, I think.
01:38:43.300 And if you want to go really dark, Tucker,
01:38:45.220 the question is,
01:38:47.200 do we have clarity on when Nikki Haley
01:38:49.540 was actually added to the RNC platform?
01:38:53.780 She was added to the schedule?
01:38:55.080 I don't, no.
01:38:55.540 I don't have clarity on that either,
01:38:56.760 but I know that she initially wasn't there.
01:38:58.440 So the story goes that Haley and Ron DeSantis,
01:39:01.700 who had run against Trump in the primary,
01:39:03.260 were initially not slated to speak on the RNC agenda.
01:39:06.900 And at some point, they were later put on.
01:39:11.420 Nikki Haley, of course, mentions in her speech,
01:39:13.960 Donald Trump wants me to be here.
01:39:15.360 And now there's that clip where it turns back to,
01:39:17.620 I think it's Trump talking to J.D. Vance,
01:39:20.500 and he's sort of mouthing his lips,
01:39:22.340 and they've done the lip sync and says that,
01:39:24.820 the lip reading and says that she wanted to speak.
01:39:29.000 Here we go.
01:39:30.800 So she wanted to speak.
01:39:32.860 So Nikki Haley was able to push herself in,
01:39:35.520 and whoever's running that piece said,
01:39:37.880 okay, well, in the name of unity,
01:39:39.020 we're going to let her in now.
01:39:41.200 Well, Donald Trump gets up at these rallies again and again,
01:39:45.340 and he recites the snake poem.
01:39:47.260 He's talking about illegal immigrants usually.
01:39:50.380 But wouldn't the same thing apply to Nikki Haley
01:39:51.820 and Mike Pompeo and John Bolton and all of these types?
01:39:55.840 Yeah, I mean, I think, I guess,
01:39:57.940 well, of course, I couldn't agree more.
01:39:59.720 And it's not a matter of punishing people
01:40:01.320 or not practicing forgiveness,
01:40:02.540 which we're required to practice.
01:40:04.060 And I think we should always extend forgiveness.
01:40:06.100 But it's a question of self-protection.
01:40:08.520 Do you want people-
01:40:09.340 Forgiveness doesn't mean suicide.
01:40:10.500 I agree with that.
01:40:11.240 And it doesn't mean you can forgive somebody
01:40:13.040 and not invite them into your orbit.
01:40:15.080 Forgiveness is something that happens in your heart.
01:40:16.460 Exactly.
01:40:17.140 It's not, I'm going to let you in my house now
01:40:19.280 and sit at my table.
01:40:19.880 But the attempted murder of Trump
01:40:21.500 just shows how deadly serious these people are,
01:40:25.220 how high the stakes are.
01:40:27.120 And I just hope people are internalizing that lesson.
01:40:30.300 But they don't seem to be at all.
01:40:32.040 That the lesson is that all of this can end
01:40:34.180 in the blink of, again, half an inch to the right.
01:40:37.720 Yeah.
01:40:38.300 Half an inch to the right, and all of it goes away.
01:40:41.280 Then there's a massive fight, Nikki Haley, Don Jr.
01:40:44.780 But you look at some of this movement right now,
01:40:46.780 and a lot of it is sort of on the precipice of Donald Trump.
01:40:50.880 And because of his figure, because of his notoriety,
01:40:53.940 because of his connection with the people.
01:40:56.780 And by the way, the Democrats have this
01:40:58.120 with like Barack Obama, for example.
01:40:59.900 Or they did, I guess you could say,
01:41:02.460 in terms of their public support,
01:41:05.140 not in terms of their institutional support.
01:41:06.760 But that you take him out,
01:41:09.280 and suddenly the whole thing's up for grabs.
01:41:10.980 All of it.
01:41:13.040 It does seem to me, impossible to know, of course,
01:41:16.060 but the decision to put J.D. Vance in as his running mate
01:41:19.960 does make it a little harder to extinguish the ideas
01:41:24.280 when Trump exits the scene.
01:41:26.940 I mean, it seems a little more like Trump's party
01:41:29.620 in a real way now than it did before.
01:41:31.440 Well, this was something, and you had a tweet about this,
01:41:33.860 where talking about those forces
01:41:36.460 that were trying to stop J.D. Vance.
01:41:38.380 And something I think that, you know,
01:41:40.200 those of us that knew what was going on behind the scenes.
01:41:42.960 Are you talking about Lindsey Graham?
01:41:44.120 I am talking about Lindsey Graham.
01:41:44.900 That little liar and creepy little finger-shipper.
01:41:46.540 That people don't quite realize what all was going on.
01:41:49.760 So what, like, what was really behind that tweet?
01:41:52.080 I've never seen anything like it.
01:41:53.420 It was just full court press
01:41:54.920 by the worst people I've ever met,
01:41:57.200 and all of whom I know personally.
01:41:58.620 Not all, I don't know Ken Griffin,
01:42:00.340 but I know the rest of them personally,
01:42:02.400 because I lived in D.C. my whole life.
01:42:04.480 And what was so striking to me,
01:42:07.100 I mean, there are always behind-the-scenes
01:42:08.460 lobbying campaigns for every position.
01:42:10.300 Every time power changes hands,
01:42:11.620 or, you know, someone who wants a piece of it,
01:42:12.960 got it, same with money, fine.
01:42:14.800 But I've just never seen a clearer cut alignment
01:42:17.960 between, like, everybody with bad motives,
01:42:21.860 everyone who wants more killing for its own sake,
01:42:23.980 everyone who's driven by really, really unholy impulses.
01:42:28.200 They were all on one side pushing Marco Rubio,
01:42:31.820 who, for the record, I think is a perfectly nice person,
01:42:35.300 and Doug Burgum, whom I don't know.
01:42:37.360 But they were, I mean, they were adamant
01:42:39.340 that it could not be J.D. Vance.
01:42:41.040 And I do think you can judge,
01:42:42.860 in the same way you can judge a tree by the fruit it bears,
01:42:45.220 you can judge people by their supporters or detractors.
01:42:48.300 And, like, every bad person,
01:42:49.980 the people responsible for every horrible disaster
01:42:53.280 this country has had over the last 15 years,
01:42:55.980 they were all against J.D. Vance.
01:42:58.760 I mean, and really against J.D. Vance.
01:43:00.660 I mean, I mean, like, last-minute desperation,
01:43:03.340 offers of all kinds of things,
01:43:05.420 just the ugliest kind of manipulation,
01:43:08.320 lying, corruption, true corruption.
01:43:11.400 And, I mean, and I mean up until 1 p.m. on Monday
01:43:14.280 this was going on.
01:43:15.780 That's how high they thought the stakes were.
01:43:17.540 It wasn't just like,
01:43:18.200 well, I kind of prefer Marco to J.D.
01:43:19.920 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:43:20.640 And, wow, I just thought
01:43:23.420 that is the force that needs to be excised
01:43:26.820 from the Republican Party,
01:43:27.880 and they can join David Frum and Bill Kristol
01:43:30.980 and all the rest of the world's worst people
01:43:32.760 in the other party.
01:43:34.340 Why do they have to hang around their,
01:43:37.240 like, you should have one semi-decent option
01:43:39.440 in American politics.
01:43:41.140 No?
01:43:42.080 Right.
01:43:43.160 What are they doing here?
01:43:44.280 Why are these people still here?
01:43:45.380 Leave.
01:43:45.720 We can find another island of misfits somewhere,
01:43:47.980 and they can go right next to the first one.
01:43:49.600 No, but if you're into Stalinism,
01:43:52.340 if you're into just, like,
01:43:53.820 murdering people in faraway countries
01:43:55.500 because it makes you feel like God,
01:43:57.220 which is what guys like Frum and Kristol and John Bolton,
01:44:00.840 that's what they're into, of course.
01:44:02.120 They're, like, impotent with tragic personal lives,
01:44:04.360 but they feel powerful
01:44:05.420 because they get to kill Ukrainians.
01:44:07.640 We have a party for you.
01:44:08.780 It's called the Democratic Party.
01:44:10.060 Like, what are you doing here?
01:44:11.740 Right?
01:44:12.420 Well, and this is for the neocons in general.
01:44:14.220 This is actually where they came from originally,
01:44:16.200 and the reason they came out of the Democrat Party,
01:44:19.840 and this is sort of the tier one,
01:44:21.580 so, like, Irving and the rest,
01:44:23.500 came over the Vietnam War.
01:44:25.280 Oh, yeah.
01:44:25.760 And so, wait, you guys are going anti-war.
01:44:27.600 We can't have that.
01:44:28.280 We need the war.
01:44:29.000 We need the killing.
01:44:29.800 We need the destruction.
01:44:31.140 We need the...
01:44:33.480 I'll just call it, I mean, it's demonic.
01:44:35.520 It's demonic to want that level of death.
01:44:37.480 I've been to China.
01:44:38.200 I've been to Vietnam.
01:44:38.820 I've been to Russia.
01:44:39.320 I've been to many of the places affected,
01:44:41.920 but Poland, obviously,
01:44:43.200 that's been affected by the cities
01:44:44.140 where my family comes from,
01:44:45.560 and you just...
01:44:46.340 It's horrific.
01:44:47.960 It's...
01:44:48.360 It's an actual atrocity.
01:44:51.620 Well, of course,
01:44:52.120 but the atrocity is the point.
01:44:53.520 That's what you realize.
01:44:54.380 And then you realize
01:44:55.060 the point of a system is what it does,
01:44:56.760 and this is...
01:44:58.400 And so, for us,
01:44:59.420 when we talk about the...
01:45:00.140 The point of a system is what it does.
01:45:02.600 The point of a system is what it does.
01:45:03.400 I like that.
01:45:03.860 I've never heard that.
01:45:04.360 Have you heard that?
01:45:04.780 Yeah, that's sort of a...
01:45:06.020 That's not mine.
01:45:06.880 That's me going around,
01:45:07.540 but if you think of it,
01:45:09.180 if a system has a problem,
01:45:12.200 well, then that problem would be fixed,
01:45:14.340 and maybe the next iteration
01:45:15.560 or the next version of the system,
01:45:17.020 you push out an update,
01:45:18.720 not like CrowdStrike,
01:45:19.540 but, you know, an actual fix.
01:45:22.220 You would do something to fix your system.
01:45:23.740 This is why the Constitution has amendments.
01:45:25.160 They said, you know,
01:45:25.820 maybe we didn't quite get it right.
01:45:27.060 We're going to allow you guys to amend this thing,
01:45:29.260 and as you go and, you know,
01:45:31.720 work things out,
01:45:32.560 maybe you need to.
01:45:34.240 For example,
01:45:34.960 one of the early fixes in that system
01:45:37.100 was the presidency and the vice presidency.
01:45:39.220 This idea that the second most vote getter
01:45:41.920 would be this vice president
01:45:43.280 led to an administration
01:45:44.180 that was just too factuous
01:45:45.380 to work together,
01:45:46.980 so fine.
01:45:47.380 They, you know,
01:45:48.140 came up with a new system
01:45:48.900 where we all have...
01:45:50.540 sort of.
01:45:51.840 I don't know.
01:45:52.500 No, I don't think...
01:45:53.340 I said now,
01:45:54.320 but I catch myself
01:45:55.040 because I'm not sure
01:45:55.600 that's exactly what we have now.
01:45:56.780 No, because they always hate each other.
01:45:58.280 I've never seen a president
01:45:59.680 and a vice president
01:46:00.620 who didn't really hate each other.
01:46:03.360 Yeah.
01:46:04.180 And now, well,
01:46:05.380 hopefully the next one.
01:46:07.040 I hope that's true.
01:46:08.180 There's something about the structure
01:46:09.240 that makes it hard.
01:46:10.240 It does.
01:46:11.400 And the other idea then
01:46:14.340 is that what if you leave that flaw?
01:46:17.420 What if the flaw is there
01:46:18.740 and it's kept in every iteration,
01:46:20.420 every update of the system,
01:46:21.600 every version of the operating system
01:46:23.140 that gets pushed out
01:46:23.920 always has this zero-day flaw
01:46:25.420 that's still in it
01:46:26.040 or a zero-day exploit
01:46:26.880 that's what hackers talk about.
01:46:28.600 And so you might start to realize
01:46:29.980 that, wait a minute,
01:46:30.520 what if that flaw
01:46:32.620 that's creating this unwanted outcome
01:46:36.100 actually is the real system?
01:46:39.540 And everything that we've been told
01:46:41.120 is just window dressing.
01:46:42.360 Exactly.
01:46:42.800 And so maybe the fact
01:46:44.020 that communism kills 100 million people
01:46:46.320 actually is the point of communism.
01:46:49.780 Of course.
01:46:50.220 And it's not equality, justice,
01:46:52.160 diversity, DEI,
01:46:54.640 peace, land, bread,
01:46:55.720 any of those things.
01:46:56.920 What if the point actually is the killer?
01:46:58.400 And maybe if...
01:47:00.520 the victims are disproportionately Christian,
01:47:03.900 which they have been always
01:47:05.880 from French Revolution to present,
01:47:08.420 maybe the actual point
01:47:10.020 is opposing Christianity.
01:47:11.880 Maybe a real enemy is Jesus.
01:47:13.420 I'm just thinking.
01:47:14.120 I mean, again,
01:47:14.940 if the point of a system
01:47:15.700 is what it does
01:47:16.380 and every so-called communist revolution
01:47:19.600 from, well,
01:47:20.420 from the Maoist revolution
01:47:21.560 to the French Revolution
01:47:23.140 to the Spanish Civil War
01:47:25.380 to the Soviet,
01:47:27.760 the Bolshevik Revolution,
01:47:28.920 they all targeted Christians.
01:47:31.580 And maybe that's the real enemy for them.
01:47:33.480 The Christians are the ones that...
01:47:34.960 So when we wrote on humans,
01:47:36.260 we had done this podcast series
01:47:37.840 on Chronicles of the Revolution
01:47:39.420 and China Files.
01:47:41.720 And I was just sort of going through it
01:47:43.760 from a history perspective.
01:47:45.640 And it was Christmas break
01:47:46.840 and I wanted some extra content up there.
01:47:48.260 So let's just talk about communism.
01:47:49.760 But then as we started
01:47:50.960 going through each of them,
01:47:52.580 we realized a pattern
01:47:53.460 just started emerging.
01:47:54.300 And the pattern was always
01:47:56.220 the Christians are the first to go,
01:47:58.920 whether it's under the gun,
01:48:00.580 whether it's under the guillotine,
01:48:02.260 whether it's under the knife,
01:48:04.040 whatever it...
01:48:05.220 Or in front of the cannon,
01:48:06.900 whatever it is,
01:48:07.780 it's the Christians
01:48:08.660 that are always lined up first
01:48:10.260 to the point where Robespierre,
01:48:12.520 at the very end of the terror,
01:48:15.220 is executing nuns.
01:48:17.080 By guillotine.
01:48:18.220 I was about to say,
01:48:18.900 it wasn't...
01:48:19.800 The sisters of Coppignan
01:48:21.120 are led to the...
01:48:22.560 In the streets of Paris.
01:48:24.020 I think you're the only person
01:48:25.240 who knows that.
01:48:26.040 A French monarchy.
01:48:27.560 So a French monarchy
01:48:28.500 or a Catholic monarchy in France
01:48:30.580 is completely overturned.
01:48:33.260 The Notre Dame, by the way,
01:48:36.000 another symbol,
01:48:37.720 which seems to be constantly under attack
01:48:39.400 for some strange reason
01:48:40.800 that can't help but notice.
01:48:42.920 By the way, Michelle Obama
01:48:43.780 also standing right next to it
01:48:45.360 when it catches fire,
01:48:46.720 sipping her champagne.
01:48:48.720 And...
01:48:49.800 Back in 1798,
01:48:54.120 it gets turned over from...
01:48:57.100 It gets deconsecrated as a cathedral.
01:48:59.120 So it's deconsecrated as a cathedral
01:49:00.540 and is turned into a temple of reason.
01:49:02.660 Of course.
01:49:03.120 So a temple to a not-god,
01:49:04.880 a temple to a demon,
01:49:06.040 a temple to another figure
01:49:07.640 that is not God,
01:49:09.540 that is not worshiping Christ.
01:49:11.540 So...
01:49:11.900 And they hold these cults.
01:49:14.860 They actually called them cults back then,
01:49:16.140 the cult of reason.
01:49:17.280 And so there were cult ceremonies
01:49:18.560 that were held in Notre Dame.
01:49:20.340 Now, of course,
01:49:20.700 it's been reconsecrated since then.
01:49:22.520 And there was a guy
01:49:23.220 by the name of Napoleon
01:49:23.960 that actually played a huge role in this.
01:49:26.560 The same way that
01:49:27.420 when churches wanted to attack
01:49:29.420 in Spain in the 1930s,
01:49:30.840 Franco plays a huge role
01:49:32.300 in the restoration of the church.
01:49:33.840 The same way that you see this in Russia
01:49:35.920 following the end of the Soviet Union,
01:49:38.640 the end of the Bolshevik rule,
01:49:39.640 the churches start to get built again,
01:49:41.980 start to get reconsecrated,
01:49:43.240 et cetera, et cetera.
01:49:44.080 You see this happening again and again.
01:49:45.740 Well, it's sort of interesting
01:49:46.380 you mention that
01:49:46.900 because, you know,
01:49:48.620 I mean, I'm 55,
01:49:49.820 so I was here for it.
01:49:50.960 The entire American left
01:49:52.180 to one extent or another,
01:49:53.520 very few explicitly,
01:49:54.700 but all of them, in effect,
01:49:56.180 supported the Soviet Union.
01:49:57.940 And they defended it,
01:49:59.200 even sometimes while attacking it,
01:50:00.540 but effectively they defended it
01:50:01.620 for the entire length
01:50:02.840 of its existence
01:50:04.060 from, you know,
01:50:05.420 October 1917
01:50:06.840 to August 1991.
01:50:08.200 They defended it.
01:50:09.400 And then the second,
01:50:10.840 and they kind of were agnostic
01:50:12.040 about Russia
01:50:13.000 in the turmoil period.
01:50:14.980 They were happy to loot it,
01:50:16.300 which they did,
01:50:17.400 but it was only when Putin's,
01:50:19.120 and they weren't against Putin.
01:50:20.300 It was only when he started
01:50:21.360 talking about Christianity
01:50:22.160 that he became,
01:50:23.300 you know, the enemy,
01:50:25.000 the overriding enemy.
01:50:26.720 You have Barack Obama in 2014 says,
01:50:29.380 Crimea isn't an existential issue for us.
01:50:31.720 It's an existential issue for them.
01:50:33.280 And he kind of,
01:50:34.460 he didn't give it his blessing,
01:50:35.300 but in that sort of Barack Obama way,
01:50:37.100 he was, right?
01:50:38.340 You know, Trayvon Martin
01:50:38.920 could have been my son.
01:50:40.000 So he doesn't come out and say it,
01:50:41.580 but that's him putting out his comment.
01:50:43.280 And in the Washingtonology
01:50:47.700 that we have to do now,
01:50:48.860 like the Kremlinology,
01:50:50.000 so the Washingtonology is that,
01:50:51.560 okay, when they put out
01:50:52.240 a statement like that,
01:50:53.220 that's, so Obama's like
01:50:54.120 the voice of God on their side.
01:50:55.380 He's not, he isn't the one,
01:50:56.440 but he's the voice.
01:50:57.380 And so when he puts out a statement,
01:50:58.760 that's, okay,
01:50:59.240 we're not going to do this.
01:51:00.120 We're not going to worry about this.
01:51:01.100 That's between Russia and Ukraine.
01:51:02.340 Who really cares?
01:51:03.060 Not a big deal.
01:51:03.900 We're going to go in.
01:51:05.280 But then the anti-LGBT law
01:51:07.080 comes out in Russia.
01:51:09.000 And that's the moment
01:51:10.000 and Pussy Riot starts going off
01:51:11.940 and it's totally funded, by the way.
01:51:14.540 And then suddenly Pussy Riot's like
01:51:16.620 in the US and they're on House of Cards.
01:51:18.860 And then House of Cards
01:51:19.660 goes from this, you know,
01:51:21.240 British sort of like fun,
01:51:23.260 you know, backstabbing kind of show
01:51:25.420 to this like massive anti-Russia thing.
01:51:29.080 And there's these scenes
01:51:30.040 with the Putin character,
01:51:32.020 the Putin stand-in,
01:51:32.800 where he's saying, you know,
01:51:33.980 I don't actually feel this way,
01:51:35.540 but we must do this.
01:51:36.540 This is, this is the way.
01:51:37.440 And like they're teaching
01:51:39.360 that Russia has become
01:51:41.600 this anti-homosexual country
01:51:44.040 and that the entire point
01:51:45.260 of the Russian government
01:51:46.040 is to drive out homosexuality,
01:51:47.980 which is not true, by the way.
01:51:49.240 But also who cares?
01:51:50.200 And it's also like-
01:51:51.160 Who cares?
01:51:51.460 I mean, I don't understand,
01:51:52.440 like, why is that our business anyway?
01:51:54.040 It's, and it's,
01:51:54.780 and suddenly everyone in DC,
01:51:56.640 the same way that the West Wing-
01:51:57.780 Oh, I know.
01:51:58.120 You know, set the,
01:51:59.520 the show, I mean,
01:52:00.860 Aaron's working a reference again.
01:52:02.380 Big L for those guys.
01:52:03.340 A few good men is so good.
01:52:04.040 I'll give them that one.
01:52:05.540 That the same way that the West Wing
01:52:07.260 set the stage for the Clinton years
01:52:08.460 and beyond,
01:52:09.060 it was this like this,
01:52:09.840 this, you know,
01:52:10.740 this fake perfect version
01:52:11.940 of the Clinton presidency.
01:52:13.700 Then House of Cards
01:52:15.820 sort of became this new mindset shift
01:52:17.980 that was pushed.
01:52:18.820 You must hate Russia now.
01:52:20.200 You must hate Russia.
01:52:21.300 But specifically,
01:52:22.280 not because they're doing Russian things,
01:52:24.480 like maintaining access
01:52:25.940 to their Black Sea fleet,
01:52:27.060 which, duh, you know,
01:52:29.060 of course they're going to do that.
01:52:30.800 You know, it's not right or wrong.
01:52:32.060 It's just,
01:52:32.920 that's their only port on the Black Sea.
01:52:34.660 They're going to want that.
01:52:35.440 They fought pretty hard for that
01:52:36.900 over the years.
01:52:37.540 They're not going to just give it up
01:52:38.540 because we've instituted some coup.
01:52:41.240 And, and by the way,
01:52:42.400 keep in mind, Tucker,
01:52:43.280 that at the time,
01:52:45.300 Obama didn't want us
01:52:46.860 look paying attention to Ukraine too much
01:52:48.880 because the coup was still ongoing.
01:52:50.540 And this is the coup that took out
01:52:52.280 Yanukovych
01:52:54.100 and led to the complete CIA,
01:52:56.740 Victoria Nuland,
01:52:57.460 control of the current Ukrainian regime.
01:52:59.660 Prior to that, right,
01:53:00.800 you never have,
01:53:02.320 why didn't you have Russia
01:53:03.400 sending, you know,
01:53:04.900 sending armies across
01:53:06.000 for all those years in the interim?
01:53:08.620 If they wanted it so bad,
01:53:09.800 why not take it?
01:53:10.280 The Ukrainian army
01:53:10.780 didn't have any NATO support back then.
01:53:12.720 The Ukrainian army
01:53:13.460 didn't have any constitution.
01:53:15.260 You could have,
01:53:15.680 they could have just signed
01:53:16.280 a piece of paper and said,
01:53:17.200 yeah, Ukraine is never going to be
01:53:18.440 its own country
01:53:19.600 if they wanted to take over
01:53:21.260 all of Ukraine
01:53:22.140 and all of Europe
01:53:22.840 as opposed to actually looking
01:53:24.560 at a potential growing threat
01:53:25.800 inside Ukraine.
01:53:27.020 Yeah.
01:53:27.560 And I agree completely.
01:53:29.340 And the bigger question is,
01:53:30.220 why would we risk nuclear war
01:53:32.060 over a law on sex education?
01:53:35.880 And the answer is
01:53:37.280 because it was pro-Christian.
01:53:39.060 That's why.
01:53:39.820 And subverting Christianity
01:53:41.000 is the program.
01:53:42.360 That is the program right there.
01:53:43.580 Which, by the,
01:53:44.060 and so think about it, right?
01:53:45.060 And people say,
01:53:45.580 well, wait a minute, Tucker,
01:53:46.260 but here in the United States,
01:53:47.460 you know,
01:53:47.740 we have churches,
01:53:48.260 we have churches all over the place.
01:53:49.040 You can see them.
01:53:49.500 You can drive around
01:53:50.060 and here's a church,
01:53:50.900 there's a church, etc.
01:53:51.500 But, I guess to borrow a phrase,
01:53:54.880 the churches are in the closet.
01:53:56.360 Of course.
01:53:56.980 Right?
01:53:57.420 So, you can go behind closed doors
01:53:59.140 and you can pray
01:53:59.820 to whatever God you want.
01:54:01.680 We're totally fine with that.
01:54:02.940 Just keep it in there.
01:54:04.480 Don't bring it out here.
01:54:05.740 Don't bring it into the public.
01:54:07.420 Don't,
01:54:08.060 in the 1950s,
01:54:08.940 we used to have
01:54:09.300 the three crosses of Calvary
01:54:10.760 were displayed across
01:54:12.380 the skyline of New York City.
01:54:15.260 We'll never see that
01:54:16.380 in our lifetime.
01:54:17.660 We won't.
01:54:18.960 Maybe.
01:54:19.680 Maybe my kids will.
01:54:20.620 Yeah, you don't know
01:54:21.360 where this is going.
01:54:22.360 But right now,
01:54:23.220 what do you see?
01:54:24.260 You see the trans flag.
01:54:25.440 Oh, of course.
01:54:25.800 You see the pride flag
01:54:26.800 and it's displayed
01:54:27.620 on full promise.
01:54:29.060 Okay,
01:54:29.400 that is subversion.
01:54:31.020 That shows
01:54:32.040 the ideological
01:54:33.040 control,
01:54:35.100 the ideological
01:54:35.800 hegemony
01:54:37.340 that's taken over
01:54:38.400 inside the United States.
01:54:40.000 So,
01:54:41.280 sorry,
01:54:42.640 we just got
01:54:43.240 breaking.
01:54:44.020 All right.
01:54:49.460 This is from Charlie Kirk.
01:54:50.960 I got a weird,
01:54:51.460 I'm reading this cold.
01:54:52.400 I got a weird lead
01:54:52.960 on a story people
01:54:53.680 ought to look into.
01:54:54.440 I got a call from a source
01:54:55.400 close to Las Vegas Metro Police.
01:54:57.780 The official story
01:54:58.500 was that Biden's trip
01:54:59.420 was cut short last week
01:55:00.380 due to COVID.
01:55:01.040 However,
01:55:01.460 according to this source,
01:55:02.560 U.S. Secret Service
01:55:03.360 informed Las Vegas Metro
01:55:05.180 that there was an emergency
01:55:06.180 situation involving Joe Biden
01:55:07.900 and to close necessary streets
01:55:09.980 so that POTUS
01:55:10.560 could be transported
01:55:11.220 immediately to University Medical,
01:55:12.840 which they began
01:55:15.120 to do in earnest.
01:55:16.160 Then mysteriously,
01:55:17.080 there was a stand-down order
01:55:18.140 and the Secret Service
01:55:19.020 informed local Vegas PD
01:55:20.360 that they were going
01:55:20.900 to medevac POTUS
01:55:22.120 to Johns Hopkins,
01:55:23.460 which they presume
01:55:24.320 meant fly him back east
01:55:25.620 as soon as possible.
01:55:26.540 Apparently,
01:55:26.980 the rumor mill
01:55:27.440 in the police department
01:55:28.140 was that Joe Biden
01:55:29.380 was dying
01:55:30.080 or already dead,
01:55:32.080 possibly.
01:55:33.480 I didn't think
01:55:34.100 too much about this lead.
01:55:35.160 It seemed too wild
01:55:35.900 to be true,
01:55:36.560 but given that Joe Biden
01:55:37.320 has been out of public
01:55:38.020 site for days
01:55:38.780 and dropped out of the race
01:55:40.000 via an X post
01:55:41.000 and his brother James
01:55:41.900 indicated health
01:55:42.600 was a factor.
01:55:43.580 I'm beginning to grow
01:55:44.340 more curious
01:55:44.920 if COVID or something else
01:55:46.120 has been more serious
01:55:46.920 than reported.
01:55:48.000 If anyone with Las Vegas Metro
01:55:49.500 has information,
01:55:50.400 please email
01:55:51.080 freedom at charliekirk.com.
01:55:52.940 I want to hear
01:55:53.580 if there's more
01:55:54.080 to the official story
01:55:54.880 than what they're telling us.
01:55:56.840 Well,
01:55:57.240 I'm sure Las Vegas Metro
01:55:58.380 would be just as open
01:56:00.220 and forthcoming
01:56:00.860 as they were
01:56:01.340 during the October shooting.
01:56:04.760 the worst mass shooting
01:56:05.680 in American history.
01:56:06.580 Which is never spoken of again.
01:56:07.600 They tried to drive me
01:56:08.440 out of a camera position
01:56:09.400 while I was doing
01:56:10.040 a story on it.
01:56:10.740 Yeah.
01:56:12.320 Clearly,
01:56:12.820 there's something...
01:56:13.160 Known for being open
01:56:14.040 and forthcoming.
01:56:14.640 Yeah.
01:56:15.760 Like the city itself.
01:56:18.200 Clearly,
01:56:18.680 something is going on here.
01:56:20.640 Obviously,
01:56:21.300 I don't know what it is.
01:56:23.000 I know its hallmark,
01:56:24.200 which is secrecy.
01:56:25.700 Secrecy is the hallmark
01:56:26.680 of lying.
01:56:27.960 So,
01:56:28.120 if you want to know
01:56:28.440 is someone lying?
01:56:29.200 Well,
01:56:29.340 I don't know.
01:56:30.460 Is he hiding something?
01:56:32.340 Well,
01:56:32.480 then he's lying.
01:56:33.320 Right?
01:56:33.460 So,
01:56:33.880 they're lying.
01:56:35.160 So,
01:56:35.520 I just want to,
01:56:36.340 before we stop,
01:56:37.040 because I want to put this up
01:56:37.800 on the inner tubes very soon.
01:56:40.080 You just wrote a book
01:56:41.160 on communist revolution
01:56:42.500 called Unhumans.
01:56:43.760 I could ask a million questions
01:56:44.940 about this.
01:56:45.840 I think it's one of the most
01:56:46.760 interesting topics there is.
01:56:48.180 Thank you.
01:56:48.760 But,
01:56:49.220 just tell us,
01:56:50.960 like,
01:56:51.120 based on the research you did
01:56:52.800 and the thinking you did
01:56:53.560 while writing this,
01:56:54.780 what are the hallmarks?
01:56:55.840 What are the signs
01:56:56.620 of the kind of revolution
01:56:58.620 that's destroyed
01:56:59.360 so many countries?
01:57:01.420 Well,
01:57:01.580 so,
01:57:02.740 the first thing
01:57:03.840 you would expect to see
01:57:04.900 are these mass
01:57:07.680 grievance outpourings.
01:57:09.900 And not just,
01:57:10.520 not just mass grievance
01:57:11.720 outpourings,
01:57:12.260 and this is key,
01:57:12.820 by the way,
01:57:13.180 not just actual grievances
01:57:14.800 from the people.
01:57:16.100 You would expect to see it
01:57:17.220 from the mouthpieces
01:57:18.620 of institutions.
01:57:19.720 You would see it
01:57:20.200 from universities.
01:57:22.000 You would see it
01:57:22.760 from media,
01:57:24.220 mass media.
01:57:25.020 You would see it
01:57:25.780 from elected leaders
01:57:27.100 or national leaders
01:57:28.420 in some cases.
01:57:29.400 And not just grievances,
01:57:30.240 by the way,
01:57:30.920 about maybe something
01:57:32.540 that's ongoing
01:57:33.120 that can be fixed.
01:57:34.040 Like,
01:57:34.220 oh,
01:57:34.540 the energy supply
01:57:35.340 is having trouble.
01:57:36.100 We need more energy.
01:57:36.760 Like an actual grievance.
01:57:38.660 Or,
01:57:38.680 you know,
01:57:39.340 we need more beds
01:57:39.920 in our hospitals.
01:57:40.860 You know,
01:57:41.000 something like this.
01:57:42.120 Those are legitimate
01:57:43.000 actual grievances.
01:57:43.960 I'm sure the functions
01:57:44.720 of government,
01:57:45.260 yeah.
01:57:45.820 But what you would hear
01:57:46.620 are more systemic grievances.
01:57:48.940 There is a problem
01:57:49.860 with our system.
01:57:51.520 There is a problem
01:57:52.240 with our government.
01:57:53.800 There is a problem
01:57:54.420 with our country.
01:57:55.560 The way that it was founded.
01:57:55.900 Imprecise complaints
01:57:57.040 that are impossible
01:57:57.840 to address.
01:57:58.860 Precisely.
01:57:59.740 Racism.
01:58:00.860 Transphobia.
01:58:01.480 Wow.
01:58:01.660 Okay.
01:58:02.560 Great.
01:58:02.940 What do I do
01:58:03.280 about that exactly?
01:58:04.000 What is the problem exactly?
01:58:05.320 What is equity exactly?
01:58:06.840 They're imprecise.
01:58:07.820 They're imprecise.
01:58:08.940 And so,
01:58:09.700 and then,
01:58:10.300 and then you would,
01:58:11.260 you would also expect
01:58:12.020 to see
01:58:12.580 ideological incohesion.
01:58:16.920 So,
01:58:17.340 the idea that
01:58:18.300 you would stand
01:58:19.500 for whatever's popular
01:58:20.720 at the moment
01:58:21.500 as a response
01:58:22.260 to those grievances.
01:58:23.100 So,
01:58:24.020 we're going to beef up security,
01:58:25.160 but also we're going
01:58:25.660 to defund the police.
01:58:27.160 We're for more housing,
01:58:28.840 but not housing over here.
01:58:30.040 We're going to do housing
01:58:30.580 over there.
01:58:31.560 And,
01:58:31.880 but we're also for price controls.
01:58:32.980 How do you have more housing
01:58:33.740 plus price controls, right?
01:58:34.680 It doesn't,
01:58:35.220 never,
01:58:35.700 it doesn't possibly work.
01:58:37.040 And Thomas Sowell's
01:58:37.620 obviously written a million
01:58:38.320 of times about this.
01:58:39.200 You would constantly
01:58:40.080 be changing
01:58:40.760 whatever your policies are
01:58:42.040 because you don't actually
01:58:42.700 care about your policies.
01:58:43.840 You're not ideologically driven
01:58:45.220 and you're not pragmatically
01:58:46.400 driven either.
01:58:47.040 You're always constantly
01:58:48.520 telling people
01:58:49.280 we need to do more.
01:58:50.500 We need to fight
01:58:51.240 this imaginary force.
01:58:53.560 And because so,
01:58:54.240 White supremacy,
01:58:54.980 Christian nationalism.
01:58:55.520 White supremacy,
01:58:56.080 Christian nationalism,
01:58:57.440 systemic racism,
01:59:00.820 the,
01:59:01.220 you know,
01:59:01.660 police brutality.
01:59:03.260 Great example.
01:59:04.020 Great example.
01:59:04.500 And everyone's always like,
01:59:05.900 oh,
01:59:06.140 you're back to blue,
01:59:07.700 whoever,
01:59:07.980 who,
01:59:08.120 that's so silly.
01:59:08.680 It's like,
01:59:08.980 no,
01:59:09.220 no,
01:59:09.340 no,
01:59:09.400 no.
01:59:09.520 Like,
01:59:09.800 obviously people are going
01:59:10.420 to be people
01:59:10.800 and people make mistakes.
01:59:12.020 But body cams
01:59:13.280 were introduced
01:59:14.340 because we were told
01:59:16.220 that police were
01:59:17.400 lying about crime
01:59:18.900 and they were making it all up
01:59:20.240 and police in New York
01:59:21.580 were just cracking down
01:59:22.340 on black and brown people
01:59:23.400 and that's why
01:59:24.480 we need body cams everywhere.
01:59:25.780 So,
01:59:26.740 so police department said,
01:59:27.740 fine,
01:59:28.100 you know what,
01:59:28.400 fine,
01:59:28.720 we'll,
01:59:28.940 we'll do the body cams.
01:59:29.860 You know what,
01:59:30.180 then you can finally believe
01:59:31.020 what we're seeing.
01:59:31.960 You know what the body cams
01:59:32.660 showed Tucker?
01:59:33.960 That the level of crime
01:59:35.320 was exactly consistent
01:59:37.340 with what had been reported before
01:59:39.060 and the body cams
01:59:40.020 just showed the violent crime.
01:59:42.340 And so now
01:59:43.340 you're starting to actually see
01:59:45.200 because this was
01:59:46.600 a direct progressive thing.
01:59:48.620 Body cams on cameras,
01:59:49.480 body cams on,
01:59:50.140 you know,
01:59:50.280 police body cams,
01:59:50.940 police body cams.
01:59:52.000 Now they say,
01:59:52.720 well,
01:59:53.560 we don't want the body cams
01:59:54.700 because the body cams
01:59:55.500 are helping the police too much
01:59:56.820 and they're giving them
01:59:57.360 surveillance options
01:59:58.320 and they're being used
01:59:59.040 to direct people.
01:59:59.920 Noticing is racist.
02:00:00.880 So wait a minute.
02:00:02.280 You said you wanted
02:00:03.100 this specific thing.
02:00:04.000 We gave you
02:00:04.800 this specific thing
02:00:05.980 and now you're against it
02:00:08.100 because it's helping us.
02:00:10.220 So were you actually
02:00:11.160 for truth?
02:00:12.480 Right.
02:00:12.720 Were you actually
02:00:13.440 noticing things
02:00:15.880 that are going on
02:00:16.620 in reality
02:00:17.340 or are you driving
02:00:18.960 towards something else?
02:00:20.840 Do you have something else
02:00:21.920 that's hidden?
02:00:23.160 And so what's underlying
02:00:24.520 and what we found out
02:00:25.220 in the book,
02:00:25.600 of course,
02:00:26.320 is it's always
02:00:27.940 the overturning
02:00:29.940 of whatever government
02:00:30.780 is in place,
02:00:31.780 whatever power is in place,
02:00:33.780 whatever system is in place
02:00:35.480 is completely overturned.
02:00:37.160 Spain, for example,
02:00:38.760 Catholic monarchy.
02:00:39.720 France,
02:00:40.360 Catholic monarchy.
02:00:41.660 Both of those
02:00:42.440 had to be overturned.
02:00:43.940 Both of those
02:00:44.660 were usurped.
02:00:46.000 And as you said before,
02:00:47.340 these attacks on Christianity
02:00:48.980 are a hallmark,
02:00:50.440 a direct hallmark.
02:00:52.200 So what we see
02:00:52.700 in the United States,
02:00:53.760 well,
02:00:54.200 start slower,
02:00:55.560 right?
02:00:55.780 Because in the United States,
02:00:56.560 you have a problem.
02:00:57.780 You don't have the haves
02:00:58.620 and the have-nots.
02:00:59.320 The separation
02:00:59.860 between oppressor
02:01:01.100 and oppressed
02:01:01.420 is harder in the United States
02:01:02.660 because in a lot of the countries
02:01:04.840 in the past
02:01:05.380 where they've tried this,
02:01:06.500 you have this sort of
02:01:07.360 pyramid structure
02:01:08.040 where you've got
02:01:09.400 a couple of people
02:01:10.420 at the top
02:01:10.820 that are doing really well
02:01:11.740 and then a lot of people
02:01:12.640 at the bottom
02:01:13.020 that aren't.
02:01:13.960 And so,
02:01:14.560 you know,
02:01:14.720 you get the people
02:01:15.100 at the bottom
02:01:15.440 and attack the people
02:01:16.000 at the top.
02:01:16.460 That's Marxism.
02:01:17.300 Marxism is a tactic.
02:01:18.960 It's not an ideology.
02:01:20.040 It's not a belief system.
02:01:21.980 It's just a tactic
02:01:22.720 that's used to get
02:01:23.600 all these people down here
02:01:24.660 to fight those people up there.
02:01:25.980 No one ever read
02:01:26.580 Das Kapital
02:01:27.260 and the whole thing is,
02:01:28.540 it's nonsense.
02:01:29.340 It's right there.
02:01:29.680 It's complete nonsense.
02:01:30.300 It's complete nonsense.
02:01:31.360 And what you do
02:01:33.220 in the United States then
02:01:35.080 because you realize,
02:01:36.100 well, wait a minute,
02:01:36.420 we've got this more
02:01:37.020 of a diamond shape, right?
02:01:38.060 So in diamond shaped society
02:01:39.580 where you've got
02:01:40.060 this middle class,
02:01:42.000 you say,
02:01:42.440 okay,
02:01:43.100 we've got these people
02:01:43.780 in the middle
02:01:44.200 and they're already
02:01:44.780 kind of fat and happy
02:01:46.040 because they're doing well
02:01:47.060 and got kids
02:01:48.180 and yards
02:01:48.940 and suburbs
02:01:49.720 and all of this.
02:01:52.120 So you look for other ways
02:01:53.340 to divide up a society.
02:01:54.480 You divide it up by tribe.
02:01:56.220 You divide it up by ethnicity.
02:01:58.020 You divide it up by gender.
02:01:59.640 So you use sociology.
02:02:00.800 Then the Soviet Union falls,
02:02:02.220 by the way,
02:02:02.680 and so you really have to get away
02:02:03.640 from the economic stuff.
02:02:04.740 And so you say,
02:02:05.260 fine,
02:02:05.420 we don't worry about that.
02:02:06.220 But what we do worry about
02:02:07.380 is what other kind
02:02:08.980 of majorities are there?
02:02:09.900 Oh,
02:02:10.000 there's a white majority.
02:02:11.480 Okay,
02:02:11.800 so the white majority
02:02:12.740 is oppressing everybody else.
02:02:14.420 And the white majority
02:02:15.380 is actually the one
02:02:16.440 that's doing all this.
02:02:17.660 And then it plays
02:02:18.080 on these ideas
02:02:18.620 of white guilt as well
02:02:19.760 to tap into the support
02:02:21.860 for these,
02:02:22.620 again,
02:02:23.000 these other tribes
02:02:24.140 that you're creating.
02:02:25.000 I'm not saying
02:02:25.400 that they're creating races,
02:02:26.420 but what I'm saying is
02:02:27.080 you're splitting people up
02:02:28.520 and pitting them
02:02:29.060 against each other.
02:02:29.640 One of the most unfair things
02:02:30.940 I've ever seen ever.
02:02:33.680 And the fact that,
02:02:34.900 you know,
02:02:35.960 the white majority
02:02:36.880 put up with it
02:02:37.480 for you in a second,
02:02:38.620 it really says something
02:02:39.940 bad about them,
02:02:41.020 I think.
02:02:41.920 Like,
02:02:42.160 what?
02:02:42.800 So,
02:02:43.220 I mean,
02:02:43.580 build the greatest country ever,
02:02:45.280 the most humane,
02:02:46.800 fair,
02:02:47.320 decent country
02:02:47.940 with tons of flaws,
02:02:49.040 but compared to what?
02:02:50.800 And sit there for years
02:02:52.420 and have people spit in your face
02:02:54.080 for something
02:02:54.640 that you didn't do?
02:02:55.940 You did just the opposite.
02:02:56.660 And are driven out
02:02:58.000 from your cities,
02:02:59.280 driven out from your towns,
02:03:00.940 driven out from the places
02:03:01.820 that you built.
02:03:02.540 And you put up with it.
02:03:03.880 I talk about my hometown
02:03:04.600 all the time.
02:03:05.240 So this,
02:03:05.600 like,
02:03:06.020 where I come from
02:03:06.580 outside of Philly,
02:03:07.740 it,
02:03:08.340 like,
02:03:08.560 just outside Philly,
02:03:09.360 it,
02:03:09.660 you know,
02:03:09.860 it didn't really hit
02:03:10.660 until,
02:03:11.140 like,
02:03:11.220 the 90s.
02:03:11.860 And that's when,
02:03:12.800 you know,
02:03:13.180 Section 8 started hitting.
02:03:14.680 And that's when
02:03:15.540 all the drugs
02:03:16.220 started getting flooded in.
02:03:17.900 And,
02:03:18.300 like,
02:03:19.120 right after we left,
02:03:20.280 it becomes a sanctuary city.
02:03:21.500 So,
02:03:21.660 illegals were already
02:03:22.480 bubbling up,
02:03:23.240 but then it's,
02:03:23.720 like,
02:03:23.760 officially becomes
02:03:24.720 a sanctuary city.
02:03:25.900 And I remember being a kid
02:03:27.120 and I'm,
02:03:27.360 like,
02:03:27.460 writing letters
02:03:28.120 to the local newspaper,
02:03:29.760 you know,
02:03:30.020 don't do this.
02:03:30.780 You are going to ruin
02:03:31.640 everything in our town.
02:03:32.720 And this was,
02:03:33.080 like,
02:03:33.660 you know,
02:03:33.940 your idyllic,
02:03:34.920 kind of not idyllic,
02:03:35.640 but,
02:03:35.840 you know,
02:03:36.040 it's a town.
02:03:36.640 It's like a town
02:03:37.140 of real people
02:03:37.840 who knew each other,
02:03:38.940 who grew up together,
02:03:39.900 who lived there
02:03:40.340 for a hundred years
02:03:41.320 with all the families.
02:03:42.960 You know,
02:03:43.200 it's intertwined,
02:03:44.020 the good,
02:03:44.340 the bad,
02:03:44.720 the ugly,
02:03:45.380 all of it.
02:03:46.220 But,
02:03:46.480 you know,
02:03:47.360 the kids that I grew up
02:03:48.420 playing with
02:03:49.000 were the children
02:03:50.920 of the kids
02:03:51.940 my father grew up
02:03:53.100 playing with
02:03:53.620 and his father grew up.
02:03:55.340 We were all baptized
02:03:56.060 at the same church.
02:03:57.440 We were all born
02:03:58.180 at the same hospital,
02:03:59.260 that kind of place,
02:04:00.060 ever since we came
02:04:00.820 from Poland
02:04:01.220 for,
02:04:01.680 again,
02:04:01.900 a century.
02:04:02.920 And then all of a sudden,
02:04:05.040 government comes in
02:04:06.200 and not just government
02:04:07.940 by itself,
02:04:08.600 by the way,
02:04:09.040 but specific forces
02:04:10.480 within the federal government.
02:04:12.760 It's just my,
02:04:13.720 like,
02:04:14.300 town.
02:04:14.600 Like,
02:04:14.720 this was done
02:04:15.020 across the country,
02:04:15.880 towns after town
02:04:16.540 after town.
02:04:17.660 And Jeremy Carl,
02:04:19.520 of course,
02:04:19.760 has a great book about it,
02:04:20.920 that,
02:04:21.380 but it's just,
02:04:23.140 it's just knowing
02:04:23.660 that experience
02:04:24.300 and knowing that
02:04:24.780 I won't have that
02:04:26.240 for my kids.
02:04:26.940 No,
02:04:27.420 but the effect
02:04:29.200 was just destruction.
02:04:30.760 And that's the thread
02:04:32.420 that connects
02:04:32.860 all the revolutions
02:04:33.740 that you consider
02:04:34.340 in this book.
02:04:35.000 Yes.
02:04:35.580 Is that things,
02:04:36.680 okay,
02:04:36.960 you can have
02:04:37.480 a violent revolution,
02:04:38.300 it's not that hard.
02:04:39.600 You just have to be willing
02:04:40.220 to kill people.
02:04:41.340 And,
02:04:41.840 you know,
02:04:42.140 they have been.
02:04:43.480 But the effect
02:04:44.620 wasn't an improvement,
02:04:46.060 it was a dramatic
02:04:47.340 decline
02:04:48.280 in people's happiness,
02:04:49.540 standard of living.
02:04:50.960 Life expectancy?
02:04:52.040 Yeah.
02:04:52.480 And then,
02:04:52.880 of course,
02:04:53.100 the death toll
02:04:53.580 was in the tens of millions.
02:04:55.320 So if you're a Russian serf
02:04:56.500 and you go to be,
02:04:57.900 so a Russian serf
02:04:58.780 and you say,
02:04:59.380 oh,
02:04:59.560 let's get rid of the czar
02:05:00.420 and then everything's
02:05:01.260 going to be great.
02:05:01.700 So you get rid of the czar
02:05:02.580 and you kill him
02:05:04.020 and his family
02:05:04.620 and you're slaughtering
02:05:05.440 the children
02:05:05.940 and suddenly
02:05:07.460 are things going
02:05:08.280 to get better?
02:05:08.980 No.
02:05:09.340 Now you've got to go
02:05:09.860 work on the commune
02:05:10.720 and if you complain about it,
02:05:11.560 you get sent to the gulag.
02:05:12.420 But so that raises
02:05:13.160 like a really interesting point
02:05:14.300 that I never hear
02:05:14.920 anybody ask,
02:05:15.780 which is,
02:05:16.200 okay,
02:05:16.300 so like the famous
02:05:17.120 Robespierre,
02:05:17.800 speaking of the French Revolution,
02:05:19.060 the famous Robespierre phrase
02:05:20.560 is you have to
02:05:21.720 break a few eggs
02:05:23.080 to make an omelet.
02:05:23.880 Right.
02:05:24.160 Okay.
02:05:24.660 Well,
02:05:24.980 you know,
02:05:25.160 I'm against that.
02:05:25.920 Chairman Mao said
02:05:26.660 a revolution is not
02:05:27.480 a dinner party.
02:05:28.200 Right.
02:05:28.560 That's right.
02:05:29.280 And I mean,
02:05:30.280 I'm opposed to that.
02:05:31.600 However,
02:05:32.180 it makes intuitive sense.
02:05:34.420 You have to do hard things
02:05:35.320 to get good results.
02:05:36.520 But the results
02:05:37.640 were worse
02:05:39.260 every single time.
02:05:41.760 And just referring back
02:05:42.620 to your great line
02:05:43.820 that the point of an organization
02:05:44.840 is what it does.
02:05:46.100 Point of a system.
02:05:47.220 Rather,
02:05:47.760 a system.
02:05:48.780 Then maybe
02:05:49.820 making people suffer
02:05:51.900 was the whole point.
02:05:53.260 So this,
02:05:54.320 and we talk about this
02:05:54.860 in the book.
02:05:55.760 So
02:05:56.000 in the Unhuman Playbook,
02:05:58.200 if you just,
02:05:58.780 again,
02:05:58.960 looking at it
02:05:59.400 from their perspective,
02:06:00.820 people will say,
02:06:01.360 now a rational person
02:06:02.160 might say,
02:06:02.860 how can you still
02:06:03.480 support communism
02:06:04.320 after communism's
02:06:05.280 killed 100 million people?
02:06:06.820 Right.
02:06:08.540 Well,
02:06:09.340 turn that back around
02:06:10.240 on itself.
02:06:11.300 What if killing
02:06:11.820 100 million people
02:06:12.560 was the point?
02:06:13.780 If you talk to one of them
02:06:14.900 and you actually got them
02:06:15.780 to answer you truthfully,
02:06:17.040 they would say
02:06:17.860 that 100 million,
02:06:19.320 that's a good start.
02:06:21.240 We need to add to that
02:06:22.400 because those were
02:06:23.240 Christians,
02:06:24.480 those were
02:06:25.280 racists,
02:06:26.780 those were
02:06:27.460 people who stood
02:06:28.620 in the way
02:06:29.240 of our utopia
02:06:30.300 and those people
02:06:31.380 need to be
02:06:32.520 removed from our system
02:06:34.260 before we can have
02:06:36.060 what it is
02:06:36.600 that we truly want.
02:06:37.700 Yeah,
02:06:37.960 I mean,
02:06:38.200 and I think
02:06:38.660 some people believe that.
02:06:39.800 I think,
02:06:40.520 you know,
02:06:41.680 Simon Sabag Bonifori
02:06:42.980 wrote
02:06:43.360 the most amazing book
02:06:45.120 about Stalin
02:06:45.640 with access
02:06:46.140 to the internal archives
02:06:47.260 called
02:06:47.560 In the Court of the Red Czar,
02:06:49.140 I think it's called.
02:06:49.920 But anyway,
02:06:50.300 and we learn
02:06:50.900 from Stalin's
02:06:52.060 personal correspondence
02:06:52.780 that he was actually
02:06:53.700 a true believer.
02:06:54.220 He believed in this.
02:06:55.300 Yes.
02:06:56.160 But I think
02:06:57.780 given the
02:06:58.480 totally consistent
02:06:59.820 track record
02:07:00.500 of revolutions,
02:07:01.740 all of which
02:07:02.400 result in
02:07:03.300 more human suffering,
02:07:04.760 utopia never arrives.
02:07:05.840 The opposite,
02:07:06.440 dystopia arrives.
02:07:08.240 I just think
02:07:09.140 at that point
02:07:09.640 it's obvious
02:07:10.340 there are supernatural
02:07:10.940 forces involved.
02:07:12.060 People are acting
02:07:12.600 against their own
02:07:13.340 interest as people.
02:07:14.500 The point is killing people.
02:07:15.680 If the point is killing people,
02:07:17.020 that's not a human
02:07:18.340 impulse.
02:07:20.120 That's a,
02:07:20.680 that's a super,
02:07:21.660 there are supernatural
02:07:22.320 forces here.
02:07:23.140 One of the ways
02:07:23.700 that,
02:07:24.940 and if you talk
02:07:25.580 to Spanish Catholics
02:07:26.300 about this,
02:07:27.140 like Spanish Catholics
02:07:28.200 have their eyes open,
02:07:29.840 I should say,
02:07:30.400 which I have
02:07:31.040 and my wife and I
02:07:32.280 went and visited
02:07:33.020 the Valley of Fallen
02:07:34.540 in research
02:07:35.860 for this book
02:07:36.480 and we,
02:07:36.920 you know,
02:07:37.300 we walked around
02:07:38.060 and we saw
02:07:38.700 where Franco's
02:07:39.260 original grave was
02:07:40.220 and all of this
02:07:40.900 and you realize
02:07:42.780 that,
02:07:43.260 wait a minute,
02:07:44.520 this was,
02:07:45.580 this was the equivalent
02:07:46.440 to a modern crusade.
02:07:48.020 Oh yeah.
02:07:48.400 What happened
02:07:48.760 in the 1930s
02:07:49.640 because they saw
02:07:50.640 demons
02:07:51.580 actual demons
02:07:53.080 being taking
02:07:54.820 the form of men
02:07:55.600 and killing priests,
02:07:58.360 raping nuns
02:07:59.000 on the altar
02:07:59.580 and then taking
02:08:00.460 the nuns' bodies
02:08:01.340 and displaying
02:08:02.140 the skeletons
02:08:02.940 with,
02:08:03.900 with,
02:08:04.020 you know,
02:08:05.100 with their habits on
02:08:06.080 in the public square
02:08:07.340 and saying,
02:08:07.880 this,
02:08:08.220 this is a sign
02:08:08.840 of what we will do
02:08:09.980 to the church,
02:08:10.680 what we will do to you,
02:08:11.760 what we will do
02:08:12.940 to your family.
02:08:13.820 The same forces
02:08:14.280 get unleashed in China
02:08:15.200 in the 1960s.
02:08:16.400 By the way,
02:08:16.700 the help of a lot
02:08:17.380 of Americans,
02:08:18.260 by the way,
02:08:18.420 the Abraham Lincoln Brigade
02:08:19.780 and a lot of others
02:08:21.140 a lot of Americans.
02:08:22.700 Ernst Hemingway.
02:08:23.640 Well,
02:08:23.840 100%.
02:08:24.000 It's like hanging out
02:08:24.640 Emma Goldman.
02:08:26.140 Yes,
02:08:26.840 George Orwell.
02:08:27.660 George Orwell.
02:08:28.000 But Orwell,
02:08:28.600 Orwell actually comes out
02:08:29.800 better than most
02:08:32.020 in the wash.
02:08:33.640 It changed his life.
02:08:34.600 He was shot in the throat
02:08:36.020 on sentry duty.
02:08:37.860 He wrote a wonderful book
02:08:38.960 about it,
02:08:39.680 in which he doesn't mention
02:08:40.760 being shot,
02:08:41.320 I don't think,
02:08:41.760 but called Amish to Catalonia.
02:08:43.100 Yes.
02:08:43.220 But that completely
02:08:43.900 changed his world.
02:08:45.020 Oh, you do.
02:08:45.480 Yeah, a ton.
02:08:45.740 It's a great book,
02:08:46.280 but it changes
02:08:47.400 his worldview completely.
02:08:48.320 But my only point is,
02:08:49.400 like,
02:08:49.820 this wasn't about Spain.
02:08:52.080 No.
02:08:52.680 Do you think
02:08:53.160 Ernest Hemingway
02:08:54.300 or John Dispassos
02:08:55.280 or all these
02:08:55.940 sort of literary celebrities
02:08:57.540 and leftists
02:08:58.100 from the United States,
02:08:58.620 do you think they knew
02:08:59.040 anything about
02:09:00.100 Byzantine Spanish politics,
02:09:02.020 which is so freaking complicated
02:09:03.460 I've tried to understand it?
02:09:04.540 It's impossible to understand
02:09:05.880 any Spanish politics,
02:09:06.800 period,
02:09:07.160 always has been.
02:09:08.100 So they didn't have
02:09:09.100 any understanding
02:09:09.700 of this at all.
02:09:10.820 They were drawn
02:09:11.920 by an instinct.
02:09:13.720 It's the marketing.
02:09:14.240 Toward darkness.
02:09:15.420 No, they were, though.
02:09:16.280 Well, so it's rooted
02:09:17.680 in Romanticism.
02:09:18.960 So it's this idea of,
02:09:20.740 in the same way that,
02:09:22.220 it is Luciferian, right?
02:09:24.100 So the original,
02:09:25.640 so,
02:09:26.340 original, original.
02:09:27.700 So Lucifer says,
02:09:29.160 I can do better than God.
02:09:30.540 Look what God has created.
02:09:32.000 Look at all these problems.
02:09:33.420 Look at things
02:09:33.900 aren't going well.
02:09:35.100 I don't like this.
02:09:36.260 I can do better than God.
02:09:37.960 I will create utopia on Earth.
02:09:40.220 And so this is what leads him
02:09:41.200 to rebel against the throne.
02:09:42.520 This is why Lucifer comes at God.
02:09:43.780 No, God, of course,
02:09:44.360 destroys him because he's God.
02:09:45.700 So Lucifer and the fallen angels
02:09:47.080 become the demons.
02:09:48.820 And the demons realize that,
02:09:50.940 okay, you can't make open war
02:09:52.380 on God
02:09:53.640 because God will destroy you.
02:09:54.700 So what do you do?
02:09:55.600 You attack his creation.
02:09:56.880 Yeah.
02:09:57.240 So if God's connection
02:09:59.100 to his creation
02:09:59.980 is through the human heart,
02:10:01.740 then that's where you strike.
02:10:03.460 So you take over
02:10:04.760 through the heart.
02:10:05.920 C.S. Lewis, of course,
02:10:06.900 Screwtape Letters,
02:10:07.660 all of this,
02:10:08.260 talk about it,
02:10:09.100 how this is how you're able
02:10:10.260 to infiltrate the human heart.
02:10:11.800 And when you infiltrate
02:10:13.000 the human heart,
02:10:13.720 you can suddenly turn it
02:10:14.980 into these madmen,
02:10:18.020 the actual demonic control
02:10:19.720 of individuals
02:10:21.260 through these ideas
02:10:22.500 of what we are doing
02:10:24.020 is for the greater good.
02:10:25.600 What we are doing
02:10:26.400 is for the future.
02:10:27.480 We are smashing the old.
02:10:28.720 And so you require
02:10:29.460 these propaganda operations
02:10:30.800 again and again and again
02:10:32.320 over time and over time
02:10:33.860 to be able
02:10:34.680 to get people
02:10:37.840 to commit
02:10:38.640 some of the most horrific,
02:10:39.780 again,
02:10:40.380 in raping nuns
02:10:42.660 on an altar.
02:10:43.420 Oh, yeah.
02:10:45.020 It's happened a lot.
02:10:46.240 The bayonetting
02:10:46.980 of the Romanov children,
02:10:49.000 bayonets
02:10:49.460 against children.
02:10:50.700 People think they were shot.
02:10:51.780 They weren't.
02:10:52.500 Little girls
02:10:53.300 and boys,
02:10:54.980 they were also shot,
02:10:56.040 shot and bayoneted.
02:10:57.000 Yeah, but they were
02:10:57.560 almost all,
02:10:58.720 the testimony
02:11:00.080 that came out much later
02:11:00.860 was they were
02:11:02.340 almost all of them alive
02:11:04.200 when a shooting stop.
02:11:05.140 One of the reasons
02:11:05.960 for that is,
02:11:07.180 and it's horrific to say,
02:11:08.280 but so this is the,
02:11:09.820 they're in the Ipatif house
02:11:10.840 in Yekaterinburg.
02:11:12.880 And
02:11:13.280 they say the guards
02:11:16.540 aimed too high
02:11:17.260 because the kids
02:11:18.540 weren't tall enough.
02:11:20.440 That when,
02:11:20.900 so the first volley,
02:11:21.700 they see their parents
02:11:22.380 being killed
02:11:22.960 and they say,
02:11:23.700 by the way,
02:11:24.640 that
02:11:25.080 Alexandra,
02:11:28.020 the Tsarina,
02:11:30.040 that she died
02:11:30.940 making the sign
02:11:31.520 of the cross.
02:11:32.040 as her children
02:11:35.000 lied there.
02:11:36.440 And
02:11:36.460 just remember
02:11:37.320 a lot of the
02:11:38.680 ruling class of Russia
02:11:39.940 supported this crap
02:11:41.020 at first.
02:11:41.920 Well, they supported it.
02:11:42.860 They said,
02:11:43.220 oh, we need to go along.
02:11:44.000 We don't want to upset the boat.
02:11:46.060 We don't want to be
02:11:46.580 It was the Black Lives Matter.
02:11:47.640 We don't want to be politically,
02:11:48.800 by the way,
02:11:49.420 Tucker,
02:11:49.700 you see this again and again.
02:11:51.520 You see it in the French Revolution too
02:11:52.840 where Louis goes along with it.
02:11:53.960 Of course.
02:11:54.520 Louis goes along with it
02:11:55.380 and says,
02:11:55.720 you know what?
02:11:56.000 Yeah, these are fine.
02:11:56.720 These are just some reforms.
02:11:58.180 They're just,
02:11:58.460 and at first it was just like
02:11:59.360 some tax stuff.
02:11:59.960 You know what, Jack?
02:11:59.980 We just need sentencing reform,
02:12:01.240 actually.
02:12:01.520 It's just criminal reform.
02:12:03.380 Yeah, so the next stage is
02:12:04.960 they release the criminals.
02:12:06.260 Oh, yeah.
02:12:06.520 Right?
02:12:06.720 The criminals go in
02:12:07.560 and this is anarcho-tyranny.
02:12:08.960 So anarcho-tyranny comes in.
02:12:10.320 By the way,
02:12:11.500 not to necessarily
02:12:13.720 destabilize the country
02:12:14.960 or inflame the country,
02:12:16.540 anarcho-tyranny is used
02:12:18.060 to pacify the middle class.
02:12:21.440 So the criminals are out there
02:12:23.040 and you're supposed to just
02:12:24.180 sort of keep your head down.
02:12:25.980 Oh, the planes have all
02:12:27.800 been shut down again
02:12:28.740 so I can't fly today
02:12:29.680 because CrowdStrike
02:12:30.540 passed a bad update.
02:12:31.360 Oh, oh, okay.
02:12:32.560 And you just accept
02:12:33.860 more and more and more.
02:12:35.640 I lived in that neighborhood.
02:12:37.420 Totalitarianism.
02:12:38.140 Over and over and over.
02:12:39.640 You accept more violence
02:12:40.560 over and over.
02:12:41.480 And I guess the answer,
02:12:43.080 and we do, by the way,
02:12:44.420 give some hope
02:12:44.840 at the very end of all this,
02:12:46.200 is that it doesn't have
02:12:46.660 to be this way.
02:12:47.720 Like, we actually don't
02:12:48.840 have to live this way,
02:12:49.920 as a matter of fact.
02:12:51.280 Every person has the ability,
02:12:53.300 whether it's within your own circle,
02:12:55.660 within your own town,
02:12:56.720 or perhaps you've got a,
02:12:58.920 you know, big platform
02:13:00.260 or, you know,
02:13:01.540 you're someone like Trump
02:13:02.520 who's running for office,
02:13:03.560 you have the ability
02:13:04.440 to actually change things.
02:13:06.020 And, you know, I always,
02:13:07.060 we talk about like,
02:13:08.020 like local libraries
02:13:08.980 and parks and recreation centers.
02:13:10.340 I know it sounds kind of silly,
02:13:11.180 but it's like,
02:13:11.960 your local communist,
02:13:14.060 they're looking at
02:13:15.060 the public library
02:13:15.800 and they know
02:13:16.860 that if I can get
02:13:17.420 into that library
02:13:18.180 and I can get
02:13:19.140 that front row of books
02:13:20.780 that comes in
02:13:21.360 every time you walk
02:13:21.980 into a library.
02:13:22.600 And currently,
02:13:23.040 it's pretty much
02:13:23.760 every public library
02:13:24.640 in America,
02:13:25.180 by the way, right now,
02:13:25.900 that's how infiltrated we are.
02:13:27.220 You will be hit
02:13:28.000 with political propaganda
02:13:29.000 on racism and DEI
02:13:31.020 and all this
02:13:31.480 and transgenderism
02:13:32.260 when you first walk in.
02:13:33.240 So when children walk in,
02:13:34.040 why?
02:13:34.500 Because the communist recognizes
02:13:35.740 that as a note of power.
02:13:36.820 So the communists
02:13:37.400 will take it over.
02:13:38.220 They will infiltrate it
02:13:38.940 and they'll take it over.
02:13:39.660 Then look at the
02:13:40.280 Parks and Rec Department.
02:13:41.380 So, you know,
02:13:42.020 I get that, you know,
02:13:42.960 there's like this conservative
02:13:44.240 response,
02:13:45.800 not to say,
02:13:46.160 oh, Drag Queen Story Hour,
02:13:47.340 Drag Queen Story Hour,
02:13:48.100 but it's like,
02:13:48.980 well, but do you understand
02:13:49.600 what's going on?
02:13:50.080 Do you understand
02:13:50.360 you're looking at a system?
02:13:51.680 Do you understand
02:13:52.180 you're looking at a system
02:13:53.000 that's playing out
02:13:53.760 exactly how it was designed
02:13:56.260 to play out?
02:13:57.360 Because the point of the system
02:13:58.320 is what it does.
02:13:59.120 So your local communist
02:14:00.260 is looking at that
02:14:00.880 Parks and Rec Department
02:14:01.580 saying,
02:14:02.000 I've got to get in there
02:14:02.760 and I've got to start
02:14:03.660 indoctrinating the children
02:14:04.540 and I've got to turn
02:14:05.320 the children against the parents
02:14:06.400 because, again,
02:14:07.700 that's exactly
02:14:08.500 what they do every time.
02:14:09.880 And so you're sowing the seeds
02:14:11.260 for this eventual
02:14:13.040 takeover in total power.
02:14:15.800 Yeah.
02:14:16.560 And if you can't recognize
02:14:18.580 what happened
02:14:20.060 nine days ago
02:14:21.300 as a watershed,
02:14:23.660 they shoot Trump
02:14:24.760 in front of all of us.
02:14:26.340 You don't see that
02:14:27.480 as a turning point
02:14:28.320 then.
02:14:29.000 And think of it.
02:14:30.160 So Trump's assassination
02:14:32.000 attempt,
02:14:33.220 Steve Bannon locked up
02:14:34.080 as a political prisoner,
02:14:35.560 Peter Navarro
02:14:36.160 just gets out
02:14:37.540 as a political prisoner,
02:14:38.440 the palace coups
02:14:42.320 of sitting leaders.
02:14:44.580 All of this
02:14:45.220 has happened before.
02:14:46.180 All of this.
02:14:46.780 Literally,
02:14:47.580 to the letter
02:14:48.160 has happened before.
02:14:49.680 The only point is
02:14:50.860 if you're just sitting there
02:14:52.520 going with the flow
02:14:53.380 saying,
02:14:53.940 oh my gosh,
02:14:54.360 I can't understand
02:14:54.860 what happens next.
02:14:55.660 No,
02:14:56.000 all of this has happened before.
02:14:56.880 I'll tell you exactly
02:14:57.560 what happens next
02:14:58.280 and it gets really dark
02:14:59.480 if people don't fight back.
02:15:01.580 Jack,
02:15:01.880 thank you.
02:15:03.160 We're going to put this up.
02:15:04.380 Let's do it.
02:15:06.620 Thanks, man.
02:15:07.420 Appreciate it.
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