The Tucker Carlson Show - JD Vance’s Warning to Israel, the Last Desperate Move of Israel-Firsters & Iran’s Growing Strength

00:00:00.360 It's always a kind of sketchy proposition to say casualty figures in the middle of a war,

00:00:05.680 because if there's one thing combatants, governments lie about, it's how many people

00:00:10.280 have died. You could almost never get a straight answer. Everybody lies about it. They're lying

00:00:14.940 about it now. Four and a half years in, we really have no idea how many Russians, Ukrainians, or

00:00:21.940 people from other countries have died in the Russia-Ukraine war. And we definitely don't

00:00:27.160 know with precision how many people have died in the war with Iran. But we thought it'd be

00:00:32.680 interesting just to pull up the official numbers to the extent they exist. We don't know, by the

00:00:35.640 way, with total certainty how many Americans have died. The official number's maybe 16.

00:00:40.620 Is that true? We hope it's no more. Every death is a tragedy, but we just don't know.

00:00:46.120 But there are official numbers. And so again, just as an exercise, as something that might reveal

00:00:51.700 a deeper truth we pulled up the numbers a minute ago so here are the numbers on the iranian side

00:00:58.180 the official number is about 3600 3664 about that iranians dead combatants and civilians

00:01:09.120 majority civilians as is true in every war uh 3600 but that's not the biggest total of dead

00:01:16.840 in a country in the last three months since this war broke out in the middle east launched by the

00:01:20.840 United States and Israel. The biggest number of dead is not in Iran. It's not in a Gulf state.

00:01:26.060 It's in Lebanon. Lebanon? Yeah, over 4,000 Lebanese, almost all of them civilians,

00:01:33.120 killed by Israel since Israel and the United States launched the war against Iran. Think

00:01:38.440 about that for a second. Now, again, we have no confidence in the precision of these numbers,

00:01:43.220 but in the relative scale of the numbers, in other words, more killed in Lebanon than killed 1.00

00:01:48.100 in Iran, sounds right. If it's even close to right, it tells you something amazing. And it 0.73

00:01:55.480 tells you, which if you've been paying attention, something you already knew, which was that Israel 0.60

00:02:00.400 cajoled, convinced, threatened, however they did it, got the U.S. government to fight this war,

00:02:06.560 a regime change war, in Iran on its behalf with it as a partner. Israel and the United States

00:02:11.640 partnered in this war, different goals, but somehow a partnership, and then immediately

00:02:16.120 use that war as a pretext to launch another war against a neighbor, Lebanon, the only country in

00:02:23.980 the Middle East with a Christian head of state, Christian head of the military, the only even 0.98

00:02:27.640 semi-Christian country in the whole region, and kill a bunch of Christians and other people, 0.97

00:02:32.540 more than the U.S. and Israel together killed and run. Think about that for a second. Think 0.99

00:02:38.420 about what that says about Israel's attitude not toward Lebanon or Hezbollah or Hezbollah or

00:02:44.300 whatever we're calling it, the Iranian-backed Shiite militia that they're supposedly at war

00:02:49.700 with. Think about what that says about Israel's attitude toward us here in the United States.

00:02:55.180 It's sponsor, the people paying for all of this. This would be like you get a call from a friend,

00:03:00.680 your closest friend, your only real friend, who says, I've got a home invasion in progress.

00:03:05.540 MS-13 is beating down my door. They're going to kill my family. Come help. It's existential. 0.97

00:03:10.360 and so you get in your car

00:03:12.700 you drive over there armed

00:03:14.160 and he's right

00:03:15.900 you begin a pitched battle

00:03:17.360 with the MS-13 home invaders

00:03:19.400 but while you're fighting

00:03:21.800 his home invaders

00:03:23.320 he splits out the back door 0.84

00:03:25.180 and shoots his next door neighbor in the head

00:03:27.100 and steals his house

00:03:27.960 you would say to him

00:03:31.220 probably if you had any self respect

00:03:32.880 oh what are you doing

00:03:33.600 you told me that I had to fight this battle

00:03:36.380 on your behalf

00:03:36.960 because we're such close friends

00:03:38.100 and that you're

00:03:40.360 Your existence, your future, depended on winning this battle, and the second I joined the battle that you convinced me to join, you split and started another battle to increase the size of your property.

00:03:56.120 That's not a good friend.

00:03:58.140 That's a friend who's taking advantage of your generosity, of your loyalty, of your help.

00:04:05.620 That is, in fact, someone who's betrayed you.

00:04:07.920 and that is roughly speaking or maybe a little more than roughly that is pretty much exactly

00:04:13.580 what israel just did to the united states so israeli leaders somehow convinced control

00:04:19.540 threatened whatever they did they overrode the advice of the american president's advisors and

00:04:26.400 intelligence chiefs and convinced him that iran was on the verge of building a nuclear weapon

00:04:32.920 despite the fact that that same president had told everybody a little more than six months

00:04:37.520 before that that threat had been neutralized during the 12-day war back in June, that they

00:04:43.320 were somehow building a nuclear weapon again, despite having no nuclear facilities because

00:04:48.160 we blew them up, whatever, you remember the story, and we needed to neutralize that threat. 0.92

00:04:54.660 The Iranian nuclear program was the justification for this regime change effort, for killing 0.92

00:05:00.280 the ayatollah bombing the girls school everything that's happened in the last three months 0.63

00:05:03.220 and we had to do this not simply for israel's sake because you would never go to war on behalf

00:05:09.540 of a foreign country that would be effectively treason but for our own sake and for the sake 0.62

00:05:13.360 of the world you can't allow iran to have a nuke and they they're almost ready they almost have a

00:05:20.980 nuclear weapon and the delivery device the intercontinental ballistic missile the icbm 0.99

00:05:26.260 capable of blowing up miami and if we allow them they will do just that because they're so crazy 1.00

00:05:30.920 killing is their reason for living they hate us for our freedoms it doesn't make any sense to 1.00

00:05:39.180 the rational western mind but to the shiites in iran yeah they get up in the morning determined 0.97

00:05:48.360 to kill the West because we're the West. And on that ground, just on the basis of that, 1.00

00:05:57.500 they've devoted their entire lives to building weapons of mass destruction just so they can kill 0.83

00:06:01.920 us. And so we have to kill them first. That's literally the case, not simply that Donald Trump 1.00

00:06:06.280 made, but that American presidents have been making for like 40 years. They're just crazy. 0.98

00:06:12.800 You don't have to consider their perspective, their point of view, their motives. They don't 0.99

00:06:15.420 have a perspective a point of view or motives what they have is bloodthirst they kill for its 0.99

00:06:21.420 own sake that's their religion okay that's what the moas are about killing westerners they hate us 0.91

00:06:28.040 for our freedoms so they sold that explanation and then immediately revealed they didn't believe 0.94

00:06:39.540 it themselves. Because they took our resources and their military, which we pay for, to go fight

00:06:48.740 a separate war. And in the course of that war, it took like half the country and occupied it.

00:06:55.360 And it just so happens that that country abuts, it's contiguous to Israel, it abuts northern

00:06:59.520 Israel, the Galilee. And it's definitely true that Hezbollah has shelled the Galilee or sent 0.91

00:07:05.720 drones over the galley and kill people in the galley not thousands not even close but they're 0.95

00:07:12.060 very hostile to Israel they want to kill Israelis there's no doubt about that there's no reason to 0.97

00:07:15.340 lie about that that's true Hezbollah is hostile to Israel but it's also true that Israel would 0.94

00:07:22.220 like to steal the land of a sovereign nation called Lebanon which is not run by Hezbollah it's

00:07:27.420 in effect occupied by Hezbollah and has been for a long time that's that's a big problem for Lebanon 0.56

00:07:32.180 no reason to lie about that either. It hasn't made Lebanon better. It's a beautiful country 0.88

00:07:38.260 with amazing people, but it's become a, well, literally a battleground in a larger contest

00:07:46.720 for regional control between Iran and Israel. So that is a fact. And if you're trying as an

00:07:56.300 American president or vice president or chairman of the Joint Chiefs or anybody in an official

00:08:01.100 capacity in the united states who's trying to wrap up this war in a way that you can plausibly

00:08:05.920 claim victory at the end or at least with less humiliation that's extremely annoying why wouldn't

00:08:13.080 it be you just told your people you're doing it for one reason and your partner admitted by his

00:08:19.240 actions if not words that he's got a completely separate agenda which is not good for you results

00:08:26.060 in the intentional deaths of christians the bombing of churches the emptying of christian

00:08:30.320 villages, ancient Christian villages, et cetera, et cetera. So the whole thing's repugnant. 0.98

00:08:34.820 And it's also, as the Israeli style of war tends to be, wildly disproportionate. 0.98

00:08:40.480 So they kill people in the Galilee, northern Israel, you kill a thousand of them. And not

00:08:46.240 only do you kill a thousand per one, but then you brag about it. And you say, as a cabinet minister 0.82

00:08:52.900 in the Israeli government did just the other day, hours ago, yeah, those are the rules. Kill one of 0.99

00:08:58.300 ours we kill a thousand of yours that's not how civilized people conduct warfare because it's so 0.99

00:09:08.360 asymmetrical that it's not justifiable morally it is by definition punishing the innocent

00:09:16.540 and it's also something that only truly discredited widely recognized evil regimes

00:09:23.660 have ever done in public, have ever said that. There was a certain European country 80 years

00:09:30.180 ago that did that to partisans, say in Eastern Europe. You kill one of our soldiers, we'll round 0.98

00:09:34.720 up a hundred, it was a hundred to one, by the way, or 50 to one. But here you have our partner, 0.99

00:09:40.060 our client state saying it's a thousand to one. It's all bad. It's bad in absolute terms. There's

00:09:45.840 no justifying it as a question of behavior. It's also bad for the United States. Why would we want

00:09:50.020 to be tethered to a lunacy like that? Why do we want to be paying for lunacy like that, brutality

00:09:54.560 like that? Totally unjustifiable. And of course, undergirding all of it is the belief that all

00:10:01.880 human life is not equal. Some lives are worth more than others. It's not just a matter of nationality,

00:10:06.320 it's a matter of race. Our people, our bloodline is more valuable than yours. Now, by the way,

00:10:12.980 Israel is not the only country that's reached that conclusion. Lots of countries have entered

00:10:16.720 a state of insanity and concluded that, 0.64

00:10:18.780 famously the Germans, but many others.

00:10:21.100 It's like, this is a human problem

00:10:22.260 that people tend to have.

00:10:24.180 I'm fully human, you're not.

00:10:25.700 Like, they're not the first country

00:10:27.480 to reach that conclusion.

00:10:28.560 But that conclusion itself

00:10:30.480 is the enemy of civilization.

00:10:33.120 That's exactly what we reject.

00:10:34.820 That's why we're civilized

00:10:35.780 and people who believe that

00:10:36.580 are by definition uncivilized.

00:10:39.800 So anyway, all of this happens.

00:10:40.880 Meanwhile, the United States

00:10:42.000 realizes its president,

00:10:44.840 its leadership,

00:10:45.420 that there's no military solution to this. 0.90

00:10:47.180 We can't kill our way out of the war with Iran. 1.00

00:10:50.480 We can't, despite the awesome 1.00

00:10:52.280 and much advertised power of our military, 1.00

00:10:54.760 we can't actually force Iran

00:10:57.120 to open the Strait of Hormuz,

00:10:58.260 or we would have already.

00:11:00.080 And by the way,

00:11:00.860 no one on either side of this debate

00:11:02.680 has ever proposed exactly how you would do that.

00:11:06.000 Not noted military geniuses like Mark Thiessen.

00:11:09.840 Nobody has, because there's no solution.

00:11:13.120 But there is an inevitable outcome

00:11:14.600 if you keep going, and that's poverty, that's economic collapse. And the president said that

00:11:18.740 out loud last week. If we keep going, we run out of oil. I don't know if we actually run out of oil.

00:11:25.020 I don't know if that's true. Probably not. We do have massive energy reserves in the United States,

00:11:30.060 but this stuff is priced on the international markets. And at some point, sooner rather than

00:11:34.720 later, energy, gasoline, diesel fuel, heating oil, jet fuel, the things that make the society work

00:11:42.140 will become too expensive for most people to buy at which point things fall apart you get

00:11:47.980 hyperinflation and then all the downstream effects of that like chaos and violence

00:11:51.760 so we can't we're boxed in made a bad decision got to get out yes getting out looks a lot like

00:11:58.080 defeat because strictly speaking it is defeat meaning we're pulling back we've reached none

00:12:02.740 of the goals that we publicly articulated we're trying to reach and that's all very embarrassing

00:12:07.180 we have reached the limit of American power. Yes, that's true. It's sad. We can certainly

00:12:12.740 readjust. Doesn't mean our country's gone. Doesn't mean we're in a Great Depression. Doesn't mean we

00:12:17.860 have a civil war. Like there are lots of things we're avoiding here and that's good, but it's 0.99

00:12:21.780 definitely a step down and it's kind of impossible to save face entirely. But, you know, it's the

00:12:28.560 best of a series of really bad options. So the president who got us into this mess in the first

00:12:33.060 place and shame on him, did make a rational and in some ways, though depressing, probably the

00:12:40.760 only right decision, a noble decision actually, to just take his lumps and get out. Because if we

00:12:48.300 don't do that, what exactly are we going to do? And again, no one's answered that question because

00:12:52.460 there's no answer other than just continue to fruitlessly suffer at an accelerating pace

00:12:57.120 until everything truly falls apart. So you have to get out, so we're going to get out. So he

00:13:02.440 announces we're getting out well from the israeli perspective there's no worse outcome and just to

00:13:08.100 show a little grace to israel this is one of those rare moments where the hyperbole actually does

00:13:12.900 match the reality so israel's been complaining about whining about inflating the severity of

00:13:19.420 existential threats for you know generations it's an existential threat no it's not but this gets

00:13:25.060 about as close to an existential threat to israel as anything in the past 50 years for sure so they 0.56

00:13:30.300 go into this with the aim of disabling Iran, breaking the country apart into warring factions,

00:13:37.340 kind of taking it off the table as a global player. And that was their goal. They said it. 0.94

00:13:42.840 And the opposite happened. Iran became stronger. Iran became globally recognized as a true player 0.92

00:13:49.400 in international energy and commodity markets, but also as the country that stood up to the

00:13:54.680 two most ferocious, maybe least scrupulous militaries in the world. This is the global

00:13:58.480 view, true or not, and didn't crumble. They killed the head of state and the entire top echelon

00:14:04.180 running the state. And new people nobody had ever heard of seamlessly moved into those roles and

00:14:10.260 just kept going. So like the message to the rest of the world is this little outlaw terror state

00:14:17.740 stood up to the most powerful coalition in the world and survived. That in itself is a massive

00:14:23.800 win and it increases iran's prestige and its operational power going forward there's kind of

00:14:29.000 no way around that not many people would have predicted that not many people would have wanted

00:14:33.880 that but we're not in charge of history and that's exactly what happened from the perspective of the

00:14:39.560 rest of us that's sad it's a massive downgrade in american power and there will be consequences

00:14:45.480 for sure particularly in east asia but you're just gonna have to live with those and deal with them

00:14:49.960 and it may be in some ways good for the united states to recognize the limits of military power

00:14:53.720 because there are limits to military power, period.

00:14:56.760 Even if you use nuclear weapons, there are limits,

00:14:58.680 and those limits include your own assured death.

00:15:00.640 So like, let's stop talking ourselves into lunacy here.

00:15:05.320 I mean, military is great.

00:15:06.880 Everyone supports the military.

00:15:08.120 Certainly it's well-funded.

00:15:09.860 A lot of that funding is wasted.

00:15:11.740 There's a lot of theft.

00:15:13.160 Building aircraft carriers is obviously insane,

00:15:15.600 as any person could have told you.

00:15:18.560 There's obviously a lot to learn from the waste

00:15:23.240 in $1.5 trillion in Pentagon funding,

00:15:26.000 but the military is still impressive

00:15:27.500 and has lots of great people

00:15:29.780 and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:15:32.400 But no matter how great your military is,

00:15:34.200 there are things you can't achieve with it.

00:15:35.840 That's just a fact.

00:15:36.700 It's always been a fact.

00:15:37.760 Wise people understand that.

00:15:38.900 There's no leader in the world

00:15:40.460 with any wisdom or foresight

00:15:42.320 who doesn't understand that.

00:15:43.520 And now perhaps our leaders will understand it,

00:15:45.460 and that's not bad.

00:15:46.880 But from Israel's perspective,

00:15:48.040 it's very hard to see an upside in this 1.00

00:15:49.780 Because Iran, which it's fair to say, no matter how much you dislike Israel, you'd have to admit

00:15:57.400 Iran has a real grudge against Israel. Iran has been funding. And it's a little more complicated 0.55

00:16:03.860 than this, but they have effectively been funding some of Israel's most dangerous enemies. That's 0.72

00:16:08.860 just true. And now they're more powerful than ever. And the Gulf, the six Gulf states, which

00:16:16.060 are inherently powerful because they have all this energy wealth, they're not more closely

00:16:23.300 allied with you or the United States.

00:16:25.480 They will, some of them inevitably will in real terms, if not openly, become closer to 0.86

00:16:30.520 Iran because they have no choice because Iran is now a partner with Oman and controlling

00:16:34.400 the ability of their commodities to get out of the Persian Gulf.

00:16:38.600 So this is all obvious, but think about it from the Israeli perspective. 0.91

00:16:42.740 this is like a true nightmare scenario, but it's also a familiar scenario to anyone over 11 years

00:16:48.480 old. And that's the scenario in which all of your dreams whip around and become the opposite of what

00:16:54.720 you thought they were going to be. You have no ability as a human being to precisely predict

00:16:58.880 the future. Sometimes you can be kind to write, often you're 180 degrees wrong. The opposite of

00:17:03.500 what you thought was going to happen, happened. And again, anyone who's not a child has lived this.

00:17:09.100 and wise people write it down on a note

00:17:12.540 and post it on the fridge

00:17:13.560 just to remind themselves every single day,

00:17:15.540 I am not God.

00:17:16.860 It is entirely possible

00:17:18.280 that I'll go into some complex high stakes project

00:17:21.800 and at the end, the opposite will happen.

00:17:23.960 So I should slow down a little bit

00:17:25.280 and be ever aware of the limitations

00:17:28.880 of my own predictive abilities.

00:17:31.080 That's how wise people approach life.

00:17:32.920 People like Benjamin Netanyahu, by contrast,

00:17:35.620 and a lot of politicians, by the way,

00:17:37.860 get up on stage and tell you,

00:17:38.960 if we do this, this is exactly what's going to happen. And people like that should never hold

00:17:42.340 power because they're dumb. And they're dumb in a recognizable way. They don't recognize their own 1.00

00:17:46.900 limits. They don't know what they're not capable of doing. And the only way they ever learn that

00:17:54.400 is by leading others into disaster and death. That's like the oldest lesson in human history.

00:18:00.980 And we're all learning it once again. So those, I think, are the relative perspectives. The United

00:18:06.980 states realized we've got to get out it's that's obviously embarrassing it's bad but it could be 1.00

00:18:11.980 way worse so we should be grateful they're getting out now israel realizes holy smokes we miscalculated

00:18:19.640 or we were betrayed because there's really no self-awareness at all at any level of the israeli 0.67

00:18:26.160 government it's always someone else's fault it's always your fault you just hate us because you've

00:18:29.380 always hated us okay okay now but in any case with whatever the cause of it the israelis

00:18:34.640 understand wow oh wow we're up against it we thought we were gonna like be in charge of the 0.95

00:18:38.580 region would be the regional hegemons and now we realize our main enemy is more powerful than they 1.00

00:18:43.520 ever were and by the way our only ally on the planet is telling us that we have to stop the 0.83

00:18:52.040 war that we started under the cover of the war we convinced them to start okay so it's tough and you

00:18:59.500 can see the total misalignment between the united states and israel these purported partners in this

00:19:05.120 doomed venture but they're not really partners one country is many times the size of the other

00:19:11.820 country both in population and territory and in resources are not even closely comparable this is

00:19:17.500 the elephant and the flea and moreover the little country is wholly totally dependent on the big

00:19:24.340 country for everything, for everything, for its economy, for its intelligence, and more than

00:19:29.920 anything for maintaining its territorial ambitions and providing for its defense.

00:19:35.620 But the little country refuses to recognize that, both out of arrogance and because it's in a state

00:19:41.940 of total hysteria and can't think straight. And so that's the rub right there. The little country

00:19:48.020 somehow has control over the future of the big country,

00:19:52.880 but the big country is solely responsible

00:19:56.140 for the little country being able to do anything at all.

00:19:59.640 And only one side understands this dynamic,

00:20:01.780 and that's the big country.

00:20:04.360 So the vice president of the United States last Thursday

00:20:07.720 said some of this in public.

00:20:10.860 He said, by the way,

00:20:12.620 who spent more to defend Israel in the last three months

00:20:16.180 during the course of this war?

00:20:17.200 was it israel or the united states no the united states spent more money defending israel than

00:20:21.560 israel spent defending itself not whining about it not attacking israel but just like hey for a

00:20:26.820 little perspective here your cities are still largely intact because american taxpayers paid

00:20:33.300 to defend them by the way to our own detriment we now lack the defensive capacity to send american

00:20:39.880 troops other places in the world if we needed to because we expended it defending you in a war that

00:20:46.780 you got us into. So the vice president said that. And then he said this in a now famous clip,

00:20:54.640 which is worth rewatching. Here it is. What I will say, and this does bother me,

00:20:59.120 is that you've seen people within BB's cabinet who have come out and attacked the deal and in

00:21:04.940 some ways very personally attacked the president of the United States. And I guess my message to

00:21:09.960 them would be twofold. Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world

00:21:17.660 who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the

00:21:23.360 head of state of the world's superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government,

00:21:28.040 I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.

00:21:35.480 Yeah, you think?

00:21:36.600 I mean, that's the most obvious advice, and it is advice.

00:21:40.560 It's criticism, but it's not an attack.

00:21:42.740 It's an acknowledgment of reality, and it's a call to change behavior.

00:21:48.060 It's, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:21:49.960 You know, you've got some ideas that are totally wrong.

00:21:52.320 It would be like you get an argument with one of your kids who's in college,

00:21:55.780 and the kid's like, I don't care what you think, man.

00:21:58.900 And you're like, whoa, son, I'm paying the tuition, okay?

00:22:02.720 So if you want to pay your own tuition, you can do whatever you want,

00:22:04.740 but as long as I'm paying for it, you got to hear me out. That's a conversation probably every

00:22:09.300 parent has at some point. It's not an expression of hate toward the child. It's a reminder to the

00:22:14.020 child that you are not independent. You're not an adult. How do we know you're not an adult?

00:22:18.480 Because you're not living independently. That's why. And that is the measure. If you can take

00:22:22.700 care of your own stuff, then I'll respect you as an equal or a peer anyway. But if I'm paying for

00:22:28.920 everything. You got to hear me out. My interests and my feelings also matter. In fact, they matter

00:22:35.280 quite a bit because I'm paying for it all. And that's pretty much what J.D. Vance said to Israel.

00:22:43.040 Not, I hate you, but hey, wake up, guys. No, you're all spun up into a state, but like, here's 0.63

00:22:48.480 some reality for you. And then he went on to say, as noted, that we paid for more of your defense

00:22:53.520 than you did. So you would think, and J.D. Vance doesn't hate Israel at all. In fact,

00:23:00.560 probably a lot of people on the right think he's way too comfortable with Israel, but whatever.

00:23:05.000 This is not an attack, okay, at all. And it's true, most important. Whatever its intent,

00:23:10.920 whatever the motive was, it is factually true. There's no arguing that. What's the untrue part

00:23:15.320 of that? There isn't one. So he says this. So you would think in a country that's thinking clearly

00:23:20.960 with wise people who envision a future for themselves.

00:23:24.820 Some would say, you know what?

00:23:26.160 You're right.

00:23:27.180 Like everybody hates us.

00:23:28.740 Literally, our prime minister has been indicted

00:23:30.620 for war crimes in civilized countries.

00:23:33.920 The whole world is against us.

00:23:35.620 This is our patron.

00:23:36.420 It's the only country that's with us.

00:23:38.040 Maybe we shouldn't give them the finger in public.

00:23:40.900 Maybe we shouldn't blow up a peace deal

00:23:43.040 that's essential to their survival as an economic power.

00:23:46.940 Right?

00:23:47.500 Don't you think?

00:23:48.480 And by the way, they've done a lot for us.

00:23:49.580 It's America.

00:23:51.760 No, that's not what they said.

00:23:53.560 Oh, they said the opposite.

00:23:55.620 They attacked J.D. Vance as an anti-Semite.

00:23:58.240 Oh, really now?

00:23:59.980 Anti-Semite, okay. 0.88

00:24:01.820 Here's what a, this is not a French character,

00:24:04.620 this is like a very well-known and highly regarded

00:24:07.320 Israeli defense analyst, Ben Sabti,

00:24:12.520 he works at a security think tank,

00:24:13.860 Israel's Institute for National Security Studies.

00:24:16.520 Here's what he tweeted on Sunday, a few days later.

00:24:19.100 quote maybe usa needs another pearl harbor or 9-11 to remember who is the enemy and who is the

00:24:27.360 friend maybe america needs another 9-11 now keep in mind it was this same leadership establishment

00:24:37.580 in fact was benjamin netanyahu himself 25 years ago after 9-11 the event 9-11 the biggest most

00:24:44.660 damaging terror attack in american history who said this is a good thing because it reminds

00:24:48.680 america that we're on the same side we're fighting against the 19 arabs with box cutters or whoever

00:24:54.360 supposedly did that so this is a sentiment it's the ugliest possible sentiment it's rooting for 0.90

00:25:02.100 your supposed friend to suffer it's rooting for civilian terror deaths in your allies nation

00:25:09.900 that's not right what there's no uglier sentiment than that

00:25:14.020 but it's also something that like you would never say in public ever even if you had a dark thought

00:25:20.180 like that you would never say it you couldn't say something like maybe another 9-11 it's like

00:25:25.180 you know saying to your spouse maybe you you know you don't understand me maybe if you got

00:25:29.640 stage four pancreatic cancer you would understand how much i'm suffering you don't wish stage four

00:25:36.540 pancreatic cancer on a friend okay you wish it on an enemy and of course it's also a threat

00:25:41.980 i mean let's be real that's a threat maybe you need another 9-11 oh another 9-11 okay now

00:25:48.180 says the israeli security official all right does he work for a moving company anyway you see the

00:25:54.820 point like what the hell are you doing so you would think by the way if you're an american

00:26:00.120 who supported israel and there are good people in the united states who sincerely support israel

00:26:04.360 jews and christians you would look at this and you'd be like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this is

00:26:10.000 not good. First of all, as an American, I'm outraged that anyone would talk to us that way

00:26:14.940 or treat us that way or make a threat against it, maybe another 9-11. But you would also say,

00:26:19.580 if you cared about Israel, like, man, that's self-defeating, that kind of thinking, those

00:26:24.600 kind of threats, like, that's crazy talk. Like, there's no way you can win. Okay, so pull back a

00:26:30.200 little bit. That's what you'd think people would say. But that's not what they said. That's not

00:26:36.280 what Israel's agents in the United States were saying. No, they doubled down on it. And I'm

00:26:43.020 going to play this clip. I hate almost to do it because, you know, of all the 535 members of

00:26:49.180 Congress, House, and Senate, there are a few, just a few. I mean, most of me just disagree with, but

00:26:53.560 there are a couple who are just like so repulsive that you think this person is trying to turn me

00:26:59.480 into a hater. So I'm just going to avert my gaze. I don't even want anything to do with this person

00:27:03.780 and the following member of Congress

00:27:06.080 from the state of Florida is definitely in that category.

00:27:07.800 But just for context, this is Randy Fine.

00:27:10.200 He's a new member.

00:27:11.400 This is the guy who tweeted laughing emojis

00:27:14.480 at the picture of a murdered Arab child,

00:27:17.720 possibly a Christian child, in Gaza.

00:27:20.500 So this is someone who, you know, 0.98

00:27:23.080 should not be serving in the United States Congress,

00:27:25.340 whose presence really in this country

00:27:27.320 is humiliating to all of us 1.00

00:27:29.180 because Americans are better than that, overwhelmingly. 0.99

00:27:32.360 Most Americans are not going to laugh at a photograph of a dead child, but he did.

00:27:38.660 Anyway, here's what Randy Fine said.

00:27:41.000 This is a sitting member of Congress in response to the vice president's accurate, justified, and totally reasonable level-headed assessment of the dynamic between the U.S. and Israel.

00:27:52.920 Watch.

00:27:53.180 J.D. Vance from the podium yesterday chastising critics of this deal coming from Israel.

00:28:00.020 that was pretty unprecedented by J.D. Vance. I'm surprised he went that far.

00:28:06.820 Yeah, look, I thought J.D.'s comments yesterday were absolutely inappropriate and frankly

00:28:11.480 disgusting. The state of Israel was not created by the United States. It is not funded by the

00:28:17.580 United States, except in some small way. It was created in the blood and sweat and tears of the

00:28:23.800 Jewish people arising out of the Holocaust. The United States didn't support Israel during its 0.97

00:28:29.160 formation in fact there were times when it put arms embargoes in place and jd vance would be wise

00:28:34.420 to go back and learn his history i think his comments today were completely out of line

00:28:39.780 learn his history it's almost the whole thing is almost unbelievable the vice president and

00:28:47.280 this could be it's not a defensive jd vance it's any by any politician who said that joe biden said

00:28:53.000 that any normal person the same response like okay maybe i don't like joe biden or whatever

00:28:57.180 but that's just true. It's just true. What is untrue about it? Well, Randy Fine didn't tell us

00:29:02.600 what was untrue about it. Neither did the host who set up the question. It was unprecedented.

00:29:06.840 Unfortunately, that's true. It was unprecedented for any American public official from the White 0.86

00:29:11.820 House or affiliated with the White House to say anything that was even mild chastisement of Israel,

00:29:17.940 to deviate from the script. So familiar to Americans, we love you. You're special. The

00:29:23.180 rules don't apply to you. Whatever you want to do, we will back you. In fact, our whole country

00:29:26.820 depends on you. We didn't create you, you created us. Or in the famous words of Nikki Haley,

00:29:33.220 America needs Israel more than Israel needs America. This kind of stuff, this nonsense talk

00:29:39.980 has been going on for decades, really, because no one has ever stood up and said, what are you

00:29:45.620 talking about, Nikki Haley? How in the world would the United States need Israel more than Israel

00:29:50.300 needs the United States? It's not an attack on Israel, but like, what are you talking about?

00:29:53.060 shut up Nazi all right now but because of decisions forced and inspired by Israel's

00:30:01.900 defenders in the United States we can't avoid where we are now which is at a place where lots 0.88

00:30:07.440 of Americans who are agnostic on the question or pro-Israel or just didn't think about it didn't

00:30:11.220 care are waking up to the reality this is really bad for us and their reaction its agents in the

00:30:18.540 United States, including Randy Fine, is shut up. Holocaust. They built it because of the Holocaust. 0.76

00:30:28.280 Well, I mean, okay. Without even getting any debate about how Israel was built, under what 0.92

00:30:32.920 circumstances, who did it. It's a little more complicated than that. Actually, it was controlled

00:30:37.440 by Britain. And a lot of British diplomats and soldiers and officers had to be killed in terror

00:30:44.320 attacks before they finally abandoned it to the settlers but but whatever leaving that aside to

00:30:50.960 invoke the holocaust with no mention of the fact that tens of hundreds of thousands of american men

00:30:56.400 died fighting the nazi regime the united states did not abet the holocaust the united states fought

00:31:02.740 the nazis and hundreds of thousands of americans died and many more were wounded and their lives

00:31:08.280 destroyed fighting the nazis so you would think if you're an american member of congress you would

00:31:12.100 preface every reference to the Holocaust with, you know, a lot of Americans paid the ultimate

00:31:17.440 sacrifice fighting this stuff. But no, he would never say that because it would absolve America

00:31:23.880 of the unearned guilt from those murders 80 years ago. So, of course, the point of invoking the

00:31:31.920 Holocaust is to say, hey, you've got a lot to feel guilty for. Shut up. But of course, the United 0.99

00:31:38.420 States has nothing to feel guilty for, zero, when it comes to its relationship with Israel.

00:31:44.320 The United States has done a lot more for Israel than Israel has done for the United States. That's

00:31:48.500 just a fact. It's a math question. Show me numbers that contradict that. You can't because they don't

00:31:53.240 exist. They don't even, nothing in that realm exists. But here you have a man with no moral

00:31:59.740 authority to speak on any topic lecturing the U.S. government in his own party.

00:32:05.560 he's a republican this is a republican vice president republican administration but

00:32:11.100 these questions for randy fine supersede party id because the most important thing in randy

00:32:18.240 fine's life is the fortunes of the israeli government not of israel itself by the way if

00:32:22.480 you cared about israel you would not take randy fine's position you would not laugh at a genocide

00:32:27.920 everyone who laughs at a genocide is going to be punished including randy fine at some point

00:32:31.520 people who committed the genocide will be punished most harshly and that's the israeli

00:32:34.700 government so like it's not in their long-term interest to encourage this kind of criminal

00:32:41.140 behavior obviously anymore to be in your kids interest to give them heroin no matter how much

00:32:46.700 they wanted it if you loved your kids don't give them heroin if you love your ally israel don't

00:32:53.940 abet genocide because it's not going to end well for them or for you but whatever

00:32:59.020 randy fine when he hears any not even criticism mild chastisement of israel immediately launches

00:33:07.500 into holocaust mode this is not sustainable that's kind of the point obviously it's not

00:33:14.700 justifiable but it's not sustainable so when you you know tune into fox and they're doing yet

00:33:21.260 another segment the rise in anti-semitism in america and you think well maybe there is a

00:33:24.940 rise in anti-Semitism in America. There's certainly a massive rise in distrust of Israel.

00:33:29.800 Massive. But where does that come from? Is it because people just woke up in the morning like,

00:33:34.560 you know what? I'm going to blame all my problems on the Jews. They just hate the Jews. It's an 1.00

00:33:37.840 ancient hatred. I'm mad they've been poisoning wells or whatever. Just millions of Americans

00:33:43.000 decide to become irrationally hateful one day? Probably not. Probably not just anti-Semitism.

00:33:50.360 It's not just this ancient hatred that just rears its head randomly like a bubonic plague or something.

00:33:58.160 No, it's not an active nature in this specific case, and it's not aimed at all Jews.

00:34:03.540 Hardly. 0.93

00:34:04.860 It's disapproval at the behavior of a secular government that we fund.

00:34:11.340 And everybody knows that, except for the tiny percentage, and it's a very tiny percentage,

00:34:17.260 most of them seem to have congressional seats, of American leaders who seem to sincerely believe,

00:34:23.180 and I will give Randy Fine credit for sincerity, probably sincerely believe that the only motive

00:34:28.540 for criticizing the secular government of Israel must be irrational Jew hatred.

00:34:34.400 Of course, they don't even address the many, many Jews in good standing who have the same view of

00:34:39.980 the government of Israel, which is it's bad. It's terrible for the U.S. They don't even address

00:34:45.680 people like that because that you know that's just the cognitive dissonance is just unbearable 0.99

00:34:49.060 like what do you do with glenn greenwald you're not really jewish shut up you're a nazi okay now

00:34:55.180 so basically the point is when you have criticism that is rooted not in hatred but in reality

00:35:04.640 and when you have a fundamental conflict of interest israel needs to have one thing

00:35:10.660 the much larger patron country needs to have another thing you're facing a really tough

00:35:16.740 situation that you have to assess critically rationally non-emotionally with an aim to 0.81

00:35:24.340 minimizing damage on all sides what you don't do is threaten another 9-11 if you don't get your way

00:35:30.560 because you may pull off another 9-11 okay but it's not going to change the fundamental dynamic 0.83

00:35:36.040 and the only people who don't understand this at this point are the bitter enders in the u.s

00:35:43.620 congress in the american neocon commentariat they just have no idea and that is a recipe for

00:35:51.780 collision for collision so here's and i'll stop with this before we get to an analysis from

00:35:58.340 geopolitical expert brandon waker on where we are in this conflict and how we can get out of it and

00:36:03.800 what the cost might be when we do. But this clip just really kind of says it all. So this is from

00:36:08.740 Fox News, which was at one point, I guess, a broadly conservative back when that term had

00:36:14.860 meaning, cable network. Familiar with it, of course. A lot of great people there. But it has

00:36:21.540 become, in the last year, sort of a nonstop cheerleader for the most nihilistic kind of

00:36:29.340 military action. Military action that has no assured positive outcome. Really, the point of

00:36:36.560 it is just to kill people, apparently. What is the point? No one ever explains that, but you're 0.99

00:36:40.720 a weakling and unpatriotic and probably a secret Muslim if you're not for it. I mean, it's literally, 1.00

00:36:45.140 it is nihilism. You can't tell me why this is a good idea. You can only attack me for not getting

00:36:50.800 on board with it. Okay. That's very dark. You never want to find yourself advocating for things

00:36:56.920 like that but they are and because they are and because it's the most important thing

00:37:01.580 to the network for reasons that are not clear

00:37:05.260 all of a sudden every other issue is subsumed into that it's it's not important at all so you

00:37:13.580 you find yourself in a place where you have long time conservative not just cable news hosts but

00:37:20.420 but figures like very famous people recognizable people and doing this for 30 years but in your

00:37:24.180 bedroom for 30 years, telling you that what matters are the conservative values, and those

00:37:29.140 would be, roughly in order, small government, lower taxes, entrepreneurship, family values,

00:37:37.940 pro-life, you know, no castrating kids. All of a sudden you have people like that making common

00:37:46.180 cause, in fact, not just common cause, but celebrating figures on the other side with

00:37:50.760 whom they agree on nothing except the need for the United States to keep funding irrational,

00:37:58.540 counterproductive, genocidal behavior in a foreign country, because that's all that matters.

00:38:05.600 So you wind up with a tableau like the one we're about to show you, where you've got Sean Hannity 0.70

00:38:11.620 commiserating with John Fetterman, who's very liberal on everything except Israel, and who

00:38:20.220 knows even what liberal means now but he's on the other side of every other issue except israel

00:38:25.360 which for reasons either of cognitive impairment or campaign donations he's decided is the only

00:38:31.900 issue that matters and they're looking right into the camera and telling you yeah any criticism

00:38:37.060 of israel is just jew hate and it means you're a bad american this is the kind of clip that will

00:38:45.720 be preserved in the museum of national decline at some point like how did this great country 0.98

00:38:51.840 dissolve well because the people went insane the people with the most power went insane they

00:38:56.320 started saying things that make no sense at all and this will definitely be in that exhibit so

00:39:00.840 here's sean hannity and john fetterman all right let me ask this why why the deep hatred for

00:39:08.940 israel why yeah because because i mean if you you have such contempt for israel i mean of course

00:39:16.780 you're also anti-american and you're anti-western civilian civilization and you're you know

00:39:23.380 seem anti-capitalism and the american way of life

00:39:27.480 i mean it's like so tempting to get literal okay so a socialist country which is israel

00:39:36.400 not attacking him just saying founded by socialist on socialist principles it's not a free market

00:39:42.400 country it's run by the government and the military it's like the opposite of free market

00:39:46.840 country it's pretty successful country you know for a bunch of reasons but if you don't support

00:39:51.540 israel you're against capitalism and you're against america is there any other foreign nation

00:39:57.820 to which this applies if you don't support moldova if you don't support estonia you don't support

00:40:03.840 Guinea-Bissau. You don't like

00:40:05.760 America. Where are you in

00:40:07.640 Namibia?

00:40:09.640 Countries like

00:40:10.260 equal in relative significance globally.

00:40:13.640 They're not really players. Israel's

00:40:15.660 not really a player except to the extent that we imbue it

00:40:17.680 with value because our politicians have been lobbied

00:40:19.840 by them. But like inherently

00:40:21.820 why do we care

00:40:23.240 about Israel or Guinea-Bissau?

00:40:25.980 We don't.

00:40:28.020 But do you ever hear a politician say, where are you on Guinea-Bissau?

00:40:30.280 Where are you on French

00:40:31.680 Guyana?

00:40:33.840 You got to get on board with French Guyana.

00:40:35.340 Put a French Guyanese flag on your lapel

00:40:37.560 or you hate America.

00:40:38.580 You're against capitalism.

00:40:39.620 You'd be like, what?

00:40:40.360 You got a head injury, pal?

00:40:42.440 Like what?

00:40:44.680 Lay off the psilocybin.

00:40:45.920 It's not helping.

00:40:49.000 But says that with a straight face

00:40:50.640 and then has the gall to say,

00:40:52.760 and this is not an attack on poor Fetterman

00:40:54.400 who is impaired or on poor Hannity

00:40:55.920 who was also impaired.

00:40:58.560 This is just a reminder of what reality is. 0.91

00:41:01.580 you're an enemy of western civilization okay now now you've roused me from my slumber

00:41:10.320 i'm an enemy of western civilization so you're begging the question then what is western 0.88

00:41:14.580 civilization well it's a lot of things that emanate from rome israel's ancient enemy but

00:41:20.940 let's just put it succinctly at the core of this thing we call western civilization upon which

00:41:26.820 our society is based is the idea of justice. What is justice in the West, in this thing called

00:41:33.160 Western civilization? Justice is the notion that we punish the guilty and we spare the innocent.

00:41:38.700 And it is not simply an accident for which we're sort of sorry. It is a grave offense against the

00:41:44.600 idea of justice itself to ever punish the innocent. And that's why we go through an elaborate process

00:41:49.160 called the justice system to prevent doing that. We don't have a justice system to make it easier

00:41:54.300 to convict people, we have a justice system to make it harder. So terrified are we at the prospect

00:42:00.180 of hurting the innocent. That is the core idea of Western civilization. Where does that idea come

00:42:06.360 from? That idea comes from a Christian understanding of the human soul. The human soul, your soul,

00:42:12.620 is co-equal with every other human soul because God created every human being. People in Western

00:42:18.780 civilization don't think they are uniquely chosen by God and therefore exempt from universal rules.

00:42:24.300 They don't believe that.

00:42:25.160 They believe just the opposite.

00:42:27.280 They believe that people in, yes, Guinea-Bissau,

00:42:29.660 well, maybe not welcome here to partake in our welfare state,

00:42:32.740 but are nevertheless equal to us on the most basic moral level

00:42:37.640 because they are human beings.

00:42:40.260 And that's why we think called human rights.

00:42:43.160 So that idea is the basis of Western civilization.

00:42:48.200 And because it is, Western civilization is precluded

00:42:51.660 from doing the thing that all tyrannies do,

00:42:53.660 that uncivilized nations do,

00:42:55.300 which is punished on the basis of bloodline.

00:42:57.860 There is no blood guilt in Western civilization.

00:42:59.780 There cannot be because it's a direct contradiction

00:43:02.840 of the West's understanding of the human soul.

00:43:06.400 You are different from your father and your mother

00:43:09.940 and your ancestors going back however many thousand years 0.97

00:43:13.120 because you are you.

00:43:14.460 You are a distinct soul created by God

00:43:18.100 and you cannot be killed

00:43:19.920 because you are related to people the murderer doesn't like.

00:43:23.660 That is the most repugnant thing in this collective we call Western civilization. 1.00

00:43:29.140 And that is the very thing that Israel embraces.

00:43:32.780 So you can say, whatever you want about Israel, and I've said honestly many times, great country in a lot of ways.

00:43:38.140 Charming, smart people, lots of great things.

00:43:41.600 But the Israeli government has abandoned the central tenet of Western civilization, which is justice on an individual basis, 0.83

00:43:47.800 and instead adopted an older and darker, 0.69

00:43:51.060 and I would say evil standard, of blood guilt.

00:43:55.020 So don't lecture me about Western civilization

00:43:57.980 and tell me that if I don't defend Israel,

00:44:00.260 I don't defend Western civilization. 0.92

00:44:02.960 I oppose the policies of Israel 0.73

00:44:05.100 precisely because I do defend Western civilization.

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00:45:33.460 one of the most insightful and most knowledgeable sources on what's happening in this conflict with

00:45:40.720 Iran and Israel and Lebanon and all the different players in this now global drama has been a man

00:45:47.000 called Brandon Weikert, who was a geopolitical analyst, someone most people probably weren't

00:45:52.640 familiar with before this conflict. But since it began, a lot of people have been tuning into

00:45:56.460 regularly to understand what is going on and to get facts about it. So we are honored to have him

00:46:00.600 join us now. Brandon, thanks so much for coming on. So can you just start big picture and tell us

00:46:07.420 where are we now last time we when we left the serial we were on the verge of negotiating out

00:46:14.780 this memorandum of understanding this mou how is that going where are we well we have to remember

00:46:21.640 well first of all it's going better i think than what we were doing about a week ago which is

00:46:27.760 shooting at everything so that's a win it's a low bar these days but i take that as a win um but

00:46:34.880 it's only 60 days. And the three parties involved, because remember, it's not a two-party

00:46:43.180 issue. It's not just US and Iran. If it were, I think we could probably get this thing wrapped

00:46:49.140 up pretty quickly. And the third party is, as you noted, Israel. And they're not really a party to 0.88

00:46:55.860 the negotiations. And they don't perceive themselves, this is very important, as being

00:47:01.220 bound uh by the the negotiations that are ongoing so the only way that they would really be

00:47:07.880 restrained from say doing something to blow up this very tenuous temporary right now 60 day at

00:47:15.400 most ceasefire uh would be if the president of the united states basically brought the hammer

00:47:20.840 uh down on his counterparty in tel aviv uh and told them we are going to cut you off if you do

00:47:27.040 anything to meddle and i can assure you that the israeli government is looking to complicate this

00:47:32.820 this process um right now so where are we right now well we have not had a resumption of hostilities

00:47:41.760 today that we are doing this show we had i think the highest number of ships go through the strait

00:47:48.980 of hormuz since the the war really began the number i believe i want to say was 43 uh which

00:47:56.480 is high for post what was going on in the war, but I want your audience to remember that this

00:48:02.100 is about, and I have the numbers here, just give me one second, this is about 20 to 30 percent

00:48:08.400 of normal pre-war capacity. What that means is the pre-war baseline for container and oil ships

00:48:16.220 getting through the Strait of Hormuz was about 120 to 140 ships. That was around 100 million

00:48:23.120 barrels of oil every week. We are nowhere near that right now. So there's a lot of

00:48:31.080 irrational exuberance coming from Washington, D.C. because they got to spin this thing

00:48:36.160 as best as they can. We're seeing a decline in the price of oil because of the mini glut. You see,

00:48:44.000 a lot of ships were blocked from leaving the Strait of Hormuz the last two months. Now that

00:48:50.040 the strait is somewhat reopened, they're leaving. And we're not really seeing a commiserate increase

00:48:56.640 in ships coming to collect new oil. It's mostly outgoing. So until that changes, people like me

00:49:03.780 are going to be on pins and needles. I think what's happening here with the price of energy

00:49:08.580 going to about $72 a barrel, which is pre-war level and good for us, it's good for our wallets

00:49:13.960 right now that's a mini glut and a lot of oil experts were anticipating this before the war 0.65

00:49:20.520 really got going uh also for the last two months china basically pulled themselves voluntarily

00:49:28.360 off the global market they have the world's largest strategic petroleum reserve 1.4 billion

00:49:35.080 barrels of oil was in their spr so what they did was as soon as the strato hormuz was shut down

00:49:41.720 they took themselves off the market that is one of the reasons you've seen these sort of 0.96

00:49:46.520 bizarre downturns when everybody was expecting the price to go up it's because china pulled 1.00

00:49:51.800 themselves off the market when they come back onto the market and they will soon that's going to 0.95

00:49:56.920 cause problems that's the civilian side of the story uh the military side tucker and feel free

00:50:03.560 if you want me to stop just no i'm i'm i'm learning thank you okay yeah well thank you and it's and

00:50:08.600 and it's come to this, I have to wear glasses nowadays,

00:50:10.960 but the weapons depletion rate,

00:50:14.740 this is all publicly available.

00:50:16.280 I do not deal in classified information.

00:50:18.500 I am a public person.

00:50:20.440 I don't deal in stolen information

00:50:22.640 because that is something that's been lobbed at me

00:50:24.360 in recent weeks.

00:50:25.980 So missile interceptors, about 50% of the inventory

00:50:30.320 of Patriot ballistic missile interceptors

00:50:32.880 and 50 likely closer to 80% of terminal high altitude area

00:50:37.880 defense interceptors were expended in the course of the war over 1 000 that's about a third of our

00:50:45.280 entire stockpile of um tomahawk cruise missiles has been expended large quantities of the jasim

00:50:53.180 missiles as well as pretty much the entire pre-war inventory of new precision strike missiles the

00:51:01.040 prisms that were used also interestingly enough because we were told there was never any threat

00:51:06.920 to our Navy, this is why, of course, they never really dared to go through the Strait

00:51:10.360 Ormuz, the Navy reports that they expended large quantities of their SM-3 and SM-6 naval

00:51:19.260 interceptors, which indicates to me, if I may conjecture here, that there must have

00:51:24.580 been one hell of a fight over the security of our ships when the war was in its kinetic

00:51:30.520 phase.

00:51:31.100 So the White House was lying when they said that the ships were totally safe.

00:51:34.920 our ships are very much at risk obviously from these numbers furthermore uh there are now

00:51:40.220 significant uh gaps in the supply chain for those naval defenders one last bit of data i'd like to

00:51:48.040 deliver here uh the um i'm sorry that's the wrong one the chart here i have is for the prism we blew

00:51:55.720 through our pre-war stock which was already low they're saying the best estimate will be it will

00:52:02.060 be replenished by late this year the jasim air to surface missiles uh will probably be replaced

00:52:09.920 middle of next year those sm3 sm6 navy defense missiles will take until about mid-2028 those

00:52:17.980 patriot interceptors not until closer to 2030 the thad interceptors and the thads are the real

00:52:23.240 important ones that's not going to come until probably 2030 uh and the tomahawks will not be

00:52:28.700 replace for another five years. So we better hope that the

00:52:32.120 Chinese or some other area of interest is no longer requiring 1.00

00:52:37.520 our assistance. Because we have depleted ourselves, Tucker, and

00:52:41.900 I will just add and conclude my little statement here with

00:52:45.320 unfortunately, it is my assessment that this memorandum

00:52:48.900 of understanding that might or may not lead to a longer deal.

00:52:53.000 I'm very skeptical of that. I think we'll get a 60 day

00:52:55.960 reprieve. And then it'll be like the tariffs, it'll be every

00:52:58.400 45 days we're getting an extension uh but i would just add that what we have agreed to the trump

00:53:04.400 administration and they didn't have a choice because the president already said we're going

00:53:08.460 to run out of oil in four weeks so he was up against a wall and good for him for doing this

00:53:12.620 but ultimately this is a conditional surrender document the united states started a war and it

00:53:18.540 promptly lost the iranians have unfortunately strategically at the strategic level they have

00:53:24.700 achieved victory and where i think this goes geopolitically is a post-american middle east

00:53:29.700 in which israel is likely now the pariah state whereas before the war you'll remember even even

00:53:36.560 after 10-7 the abraham accords were really still in effect and they were working israel as sort of

00:53:42.780 the center of this new u.s backed order in the middle east that's gone and there's now going to

00:53:48.160 be a new middle east and it's going to comprise and this is my friend dr art dr artemoyene this

00:53:53.460 has been his thesis as well uh and i agree with him there's going to be five powers in the middle

00:53:58.240 east now um it's going to be saudi arabia the islamic republic of iran uh pakistan with their

00:54:04.000 nuclear umbrella uh the egyptians second largest economy in africa uh one of the best i think it's

00:54:10.320 probably the best conventional military in the muslim world uh and then turkey with its very

00:54:15.680 impressive industrial indigenous base uh remember jonathan konrikas the former idf spokesman at the

00:54:22.940 JNS conference this last week, implied that the Israelis could not build an F-35 on their own. 0.99

00:54:30.000 I would add that's true, but actually the Turks are proving with their new con fighter 1.00

00:54:34.780 that they absolutely could on their own. They don't need the U.S. and NATO. They have a very 0.68

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00:54:46.120 because obviously Pakistan, Egypt, and Turkey are not technically in the Middle East,

00:54:49.160 But those greater Middle East powers are going to form the new post-American order.

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00:57:33.640 I mean, that is, as I've thought from 1.00

00:57:36.220 really a couple weeks into this conflict that is a disaster for israel and you know it's not my job

00:57:44.300 to defend israel it has enough defenders in our country uh but just objectively speaking i don't

00:57:50.220 think the outcome could be much worse strategically for israel so um i don't think they're good 0.80

00:57:57.760 stewards of their own future i don't think they're wise i don't think they're helping

00:58:01.480 certainly not their government their their government that's what i mean yeah yeah i knew

00:58:05.560 i know there are about about 20 of israelis are not okay with what's going on yeah what's really

00:58:10.200 surprising tucker is you know my colleague kieran andrew has been talking about this to me for for a

00:58:16.040 long time is just how consistently supportive majority israelis are of the netanyahu policies

00:58:22.760 even if they don't like netanyahu they're okay with what he's doing and i argue what he's been

00:58:27.480 doing since 10-7 has put them in this position oh yeah no it's truly it's a disaster and i think the

00:58:34.680 vice president put it best when he said you can't kill your way out of every problem and and that's

00:58:39.800 just a that's a fat it's a physics principle really it's like not even a judgment it's just true 0.94

00:58:45.560 and so but here's my question like how did they so now you have the regional powers are all muslim 0.55

00:58:52.760 states by the way majority muslim states and they're all kind of hostile to israel and they

00:58:57.540 have reason to be hostile to israel and israel spent the last number of decades making bellicose 0.68

00:59:02.780 noises at all these governments assassinating people in their countries basically treating

00:59:07.780 them like animals and now they're kind of in charge of one of the critical regions in the 0.88

00:59:13.620 world so where does that leave israel well they're going to be basically the way we treated iran for

00:59:19.840 last 47 years the israelis will now be treated that way um and it is not because particularly

00:59:28.800 the arab states woke up and said we're going to screw israel um you remember again the abraham

00:59:35.440 accords were still being pushed by even saudi arabia behind the scenes until about october

00:59:40.960 november of last year what happened the israelis decided to entreat uh with hamas and got their

00:59:48.400 leadership to go or their negotiators to go to qatar meet in doha under diplomatic cover uh the

00:59:55.040 israelis said they were sending their diplomats and what they ended up sending was a cruise missile

01:00:00.160 into the building in doha and they ended up uh killing a a qatari security agent they ended up

01:00:06.800 wounding they didn't even tactically it was a disaster for them they didn't even kill the

01:00:10.560 targets they ended up killing a bunch of low-level guys from hamas the big guys survived then they

01:00:15.680 came back even angrier go figure um but furthermore at that point that was the first time

01:00:22.240 that israel had struck a golf a gcc country uh which had been going along quite well with the

01:00:29.680 abraham accords at that point since last november when those strikes occurred that was september

01:00:35.520 september 9th was it september i'm sorry day before charlie kirk was killed you're you're

01:00:40.160 wow you're absolutely right it was september yes i apologize thank you for correcting me um

01:00:45.040 but but it was in the fall of last year and the point is is that uh this shift occurred and a

01:00:51.600 momentum began building in which all of the arab states looked around and said okay uh it's not

01:00:59.360 iran that's crazier now it's actually the israelis exactly and that's the key to understand it

01:01:04.320 because all the arab states for the most part the governments at least were agreeing with ira with

01:01:09.520 israel saying iran's a bigger problem than anything we dealt with the israelis that flipped on its

01:01:14.640 head almost instantly and the americans were of course stuck holding the bag because we gave the

01:01:20.560 cruise missile we we've been providing diplomatic cover we've been providing economic aid trump has

01:01:26.240 been has been providing political cover uh for netanyahu on a personal basis leader to leader

01:01:32.080 you know he's the one begging uh the neset for pardons for netanyahu and his top people so um

01:01:38.480 the the arab states looking around going not only are the israelis going to be a problem but we got

01:01:42.480 got to get the americans out of here now too exactly and that is at play here because we lost 0.92

01:01:47.060 a bunch of our bases or rather they've been degraded as the pentagon keeps saying um those 1.00

01:01:52.480 bases are not coming back online in any meaningful sense tucker because the arabs know they have to 1.00

01:01:57.180 get us out at least the level that we're at because otherwise they can't they can't contain 1.00

01:02:02.360 israel and now you're going to see a real flip from trying to contain iran to now trying to 0.96

01:02:07.900 contain israel and that's what i think is going to play out over the next five years

01:02:11.120 i i don't know how that's going to play out i think your analysis is spot on

01:02:16.940 very smart and i hope people are listening to this but i just wonder how it unfolds because

01:02:24.220 israel feels legitimately threatened and you could say israel has a very long history of

01:02:29.960 hyping threats and we heard randy fine invoke the holocaust okay settle down randy fine but 0.58

01:02:35.860 this is a real threat it's almost like all of their hyperbole became real like they are actually

01:02:42.640 threatened now it is a self-fulfilling prophecy but it's been fulfilled so like now if you have 0.53

01:02:49.940 a country like israel or really any country that feels russia that feels cornered that's a very 0.52

01:02:57.100 dangerous country yeah well no if certainly and if you're a neighbor of israel you know you're 0.75

01:03:03.560 you're going to have to always be looking over your shoulder. But this is only going to compel 0.90

01:03:06.980 the regional powers to align against Israel even more. The reason the Egyptians even were thinking 0.94

01:03:14.280 about getting closer to Saudi and Pakistan and Turkey in this new alliance is because 0.99

01:03:20.040 the Israelis woke up after 10-7 and started pushing all the Palestinian Arabs, trying to get

01:03:25.640 them in Gaza to go to the Sinai Desert. And the Egyptians were saying, we have all these deals 0.56

01:03:30.440 with you we've covered for you israel's wtf man like what are you doing and so you know this is

01:03:37.480 part of the problem so you're i think i i think what you're getting at is and maybe i'm wrong is

01:03:42.040 does this risk nuclear exchange or something i mean it's so it's too it israel's under too much

01:03:48.520 pressure i don't think their leaders are thinking clearly at all i i know israelis who are thinking

01:03:53.160 clearly you're right to say there is a percentage of the population that's like shocked by what

01:03:57.160 their government is doing but the government is not thinking clearly at all to have some guy

01:04:02.920 threaten 9 11 against the united states on twitter like this is there we're in a crazy stage i think

01:04:07.880 of their history so like i'm just concerned that they're under too much yeah under too much pressure

01:04:13.640 yeah no so you know there is a real chance that they will do something with nuclear weapons i

01:04:21.000 wouldn't say though it is yet a probability um i think if if netanyahu is not in power

01:04:27.640 i suspect even if it's a hard line leader which it probably will be they will probably play things a

01:04:35.080 bit more sly they'll be a little bit more sly about it and um i think part of that is because

01:04:41.160 they can't count anymore on america always having their back if they use a nuke that's pretty much

01:04:48.600 it that's the final and i'm not saying they won't but i i just i'm not ready to say that is i thought

01:04:55.140 that at the beginning of the war when everything just looked to be going so fast but i look now

01:04:59.420 and it looks to me like both on some level the iranians have pulled back from some of their

01:05:04.880 extreme rhetoric and while israel is really going hard against lebanon the fact is i don't yet know

01:05:12.040 if they are ready to pull the nuclear trigger because that is it then um and i think that a

01:05:17.560 lot of israelis tell themselves look we've always been the pariah we've always been on the outside

01:05:21.940 on the periphery and we'll just deal with that um and we'll be stronger um so that i hope is what

01:05:28.040 the thought is but it is still yes it is it is a higher probability or higher possibility but i

01:05:34.340 wouldn't say probable just yet that that under these conditions they would go nuclear i saw this

01:05:38.460 last year where the talking points from israel's agents the united states were rolled out about

01:05:43.000 how qatar was funding hamas well they were saying you were funded by qatar yeah right

01:05:47.380 yeah i was funded by qatar yeah i'm the one who's an agent of foreign power so i just ignored it

01:05:52.220 but it's so it's so insane you know every accusation is an admission but it's a projection

01:05:57.700 right it really is but they they start to say qatar is funding hamas i don't think most americans

01:06:03.520 are aware that qatar sent money to hamas at the request of israel okay that's right they were

01:06:08.280 doing a solid for bb netanyahu so i was taking a vig by the way of course he was taking a cut

01:06:13.980 always one of the reasons he was under investigation always his own government exactly so i knew this

01:06:20.380 but i didn't want to say it because like no one would believe it sounds so crazy yes qatar sent

01:06:25.700 money to hamas because israel why would israel want money to go to hamas i didn't want to get

01:06:29.740 into it so i didn't say it but i knew it and then i watched as these propagandists started to

01:06:35.200 convince themselves that qatar which is like the most moderate country in the world

01:06:39.100 is somehow like the main sponsor of terror and the next thing you know they're bombing qatar 0.99

01:06:46.380 in the middle of a negotiation which i agree with you is a was a pivotal moment in the history of

01:06:51.040 that region and trump thought that too trump was completely outraged by it but he humiliated

01:06:56.320 netanyahu remember exactly with the phone in the oval office and then he's like we're going to build

01:07:00.760 a qatari military base in idaho just to like show you how much we love qatar and he actually does

01:07:06.280 love guitar i mean they gave him a new plane but my point is i watched this process which is

01:07:11.380 familiar i think to all people where you tell a lie and then you convince yourself the lie is true

01:07:16.020 and you get so overwrought believing your own lie that you do something crazy i guess that's

01:07:21.180 the thing i'm worried about yeah no and that's certainly a possibility look israel's a very

01:07:24.980 ideological state you know it's interesting because i think you and i probably come from

01:07:29.460 the same kind of ideological origin story. And, um, I was always led to believe I wrote a book

01:07:36.980 not long ago about, about the threat of Iran. And it's this ideological crazy power. If they get 0.97

01:07:43.060 the nuke, it's going to be suicide bombing with nukes. It's the end. And I, you know, you look at 0.92

01:07:49.440 how they conducted themselves in this war, Tucker. And again, I hate that they beat us because I love

01:07:54.740 america so i'm not happy that i agree but but they actually conducted themselves quite responsibly

01:08:01.080 uh the iranian military did not go crazy the iranian military did not send suicide bombers

01:08:07.280 to go blow up civilian i mean they didn't do the things i think you and i were taught to believe

01:08:13.020 oh yeah they would do and that's a good thing by the way that's a very good thing because it means

01:08:17.980 that they're they can be reasoned with on some level not that i'm saying i trust them but uh you

01:08:23.520 know they have self-interest and and that's a very powerful motivator here and they're very smart 0.59

01:08:28.620 about protecting their interests the israelis come across now as the ideological power as the ones

01:08:35.740 who might actually i mean look at this thing in lebanon listen tucker um i know you mentioned in

01:08:41.420 your in your commentary that you know they had taken half of the country they actually took like

01:08:45.280 I think like 25% maybe. But the Israeli Defense Force are running these 2006 tactics against a

01:08:56.520 2026 Hezbollah force. And it's having really devastating results for the IDF. Just this time,

01:09:03.320 a month ago, you had the IDF chief of staff telling publicly twice, he said at the Times of Israel,

01:09:09.660 then he said it while he was talking to the, I think the cabinet for Netanyahu saying that the

01:09:14.240 IDF is on the brink of collapse if we don't get a massive surge of new recruits into the IDF in

01:09:19.800 southern Lebanon. And the reason that they've been struggling is because they're using their

01:09:24.740 Merkava main battle tanks to basically run up the gut, to basically go into these urban centers

01:09:30.580 where they're basically, they can't maneuver, they can't work around the way they need to. 0.89

01:09:35.360 And Hezbollah's waiting, they're lying in wait, and they've got these drones, and they've got 0.85

01:09:39.620 these anti-tank guided munitions just like the ukrainians had at the beginning of the of the 0.72

01:09:44.500 war with russia and the russians were not prepared for that and that's why you had in the beginning

01:09:48.780 such a large number of russian tanks getting annihilated it was because the ukrainians had

01:09:53.900 figured out how to do this new form of anti-tank warfare the israelis watched all this they didn't

01:09:59.780 learn any of it though they didn't learn a thing they've lost upwards possibly and it's very murky

01:10:05.100 but they might have lost as many as 60 Merkava main battle tanks just because they keep running

01:10:10.160 these things up the gut, not using them on the periphery of battle as that's how you're supposed

01:10:15.440 to use them. Now, I had a long conversation in December with the great Danny Davis, Colonel

01:10:20.460 Davis and a former tank commander and he was in the armored infantry and he sort of walked me

01:10:26.580 through in great detail what tanks need to be or how tanks need to be used today in modern combat.

01:10:32.280 the Israelis know how they're supposed to be used they won't use them and so

01:10:37.140 this idea that they're even really being effective I don't actually think again 0.99

01:10:41.100 on the strategic level they're really having the in the desired impact they're

01:10:45.180 blowing a lot of stuff up they're killing a lot of people but they're not

01:10:48.780 actually translating that into like a real political end state and what is the

01:10:53.460 political end state I have been told by former security officials in Israel and

01:10:57.660 and and this is really a bad way to put it but they call it the Gaza model

01:11:02.100 that's what they want for for for southern Lebanon they want to create

01:11:05.420 what they call a basically a desolate security buffer between their northern

01:11:12.480 tier region and the southern component of Lebanon that's what they say but the

01:11:17.980 even that there they can't do it because what they're the way that they're

01:11:22.140 fighting this is completely not tethered to the way you're supposed to fight the

01:11:27.400 modern war as the ukrainians have shown us when it comes to tanks and the russians now um so i

01:11:32.760 this i a lot of myths have been broken here and that makes the israeli political establishment

01:11:38.040 you're right that makes them more desperate because the myth of the idf as this you know

01:11:42.840 they punch above their weight etc that's really being dispelled in real time everybody sees it

01:11:50.040 and it's it's setting off alarm bells uh among israel leaders and they don't know what to do

01:11:54.520 All they know is to keep pressing the gas pedal and expanding.

01:11:57.740 So, you know, it could get very, very bad here, you know, if this thing continues as it is.

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01:13:16.280 Nah, no more statistically speaking. 0.99

01:13:18.080 I want hot takes. 0.99

01:13:19.140 I want knee-jerk reactions.

01:13:20.760 That's not really what I do.

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01:13:37.640 And I think it was widely known.

01:13:39.680 I mean, I remember an American Marine officer 25 years ago telling me, who'd done a lot of joint exercises with the IDF,

01:13:46.800 and had friends in the idf and you know wasn't against israel and i was pro-israel actually but

01:13:50.880 he's like ah they're not that they're not that impressive at all and they spend a lot of time

01:13:56.100 maintaining their reputation and sort of less time you know becoming impressive and so i think people

01:14:03.680 knew that but now everybody knows it and they also know it i hate to say this but about the

01:14:08.440 u.s military like why if we have all these aircraft carriers which are the most you know

01:14:12.880 expensive war device ever built and we can't use them to open a straight that's not that long

01:14:22.320 what are we doing so i i i don't know if you're familiar but but one of one of my calling cards

01:14:28.080 is i am one of the world's biggest critics of the aircraft carrier uh so i'm right with you here i

01:14:34.640 am um the the main battle tank the aircraft carrier you could make the argument they're

01:14:39.920 not quite obsolete i think in the case of the tank i think danny davis made that case in december to

01:14:44.480 me very well it's just you have to use them differently but the carrier the carrier my god

01:14:49.520 it is so not right for the kinds of wars that we're fighting today it cannot provide it can't

01:14:57.840 defend itself so maybe it can launch some of their planes but we saw this with what was it operation

01:15:03.360 prosperity garden against the houthi rebels where basically the houthi rebels chased uncle sam out

01:15:09.520 the red sea and we have not gone back there since 2024 uh i talked to a a destroyer a guy who served

01:15:18.160 on a destroyer during operation prosperity garden uh and he said that he has in his entire career 1.00

01:15:24.080 never seen anything like the kind of hell that the houthis were giving the u.s navy and that was the 0.52

01:15:30.320 houthis now we're talking again about the iranians which okay they're not russia or china not yet

01:15:36.480 um but but they clearly are a competent military force they clearly understand strategy and tactics

01:15:44.800 and they clearly employ those tactical capabilities with very significant effect

01:15:52.240 they kept us out of the straight of hormus tucker i know for a fact i'm not going to say how but i

01:15:57.120 know for a fact that we were moving forces for a much bigger operation into the region and that

01:16:02.960 whole thing was was stunted because partly of the way in which we could not penetrate into the

01:16:09.520 strait of her moves reliably and if we couldn't even send a ship for like a freedom of navigation

01:16:15.040 type operation there was no way in hell the emeralds were going to risk sending an entire

01:16:20.480 amphibious lander full of marines to land on karg island or to take kashem or whatever

01:16:26.320 insanity the trump administration was spewing at that time i would also add there is clearly

01:16:33.120 a shake-up or a breakdown going on at the highest levels of our uniform military command structure

01:16:39.360 i bet there is and that's not being widely reported um go figure uh but i will i will say

01:16:46.480 you know everybody's focused on the reflecting pool in washington dc uh i think it was donahue

01:16:52.160 who resigned today the head of um uh i think it was africom uh he resigned today fred kotcher who

01:16:59.120 we spoke about previously when i was on the show i've noticed he's not being charged with being a

01:17:03.840 leaker uh he's actually being allowed to to leave quietly it looks like that to me indicates that

01:17:10.320 kotcher was speaking for more than himself i think that he was speaking for dan kane when he leaked

01:17:16.000 that it that conversation between dan kane and trump on the eve of the war on february 27th

01:17:20.960 which indicates to me there is there is a significant amount of uniformed military leaders

01:17:25.920 who are looking around and they're saying this ain't working we're not being heard we're gtfoing

01:17:32.000 out of here it does seem like um that needs to happen i don't understand how the united states

01:17:40.020 could be the u.s military could be so totally totally and obviously unprepared for modern

01:17:46.680 drone warfare having watched it in different parts we helped create it well i'm aware of that

01:17:52.040 yeah and i think we did create it really and well yeah yeah so yeah i mean the modern iteration of

01:17:58.260 it in afghanistan and i remember i remember it very well uh it was october 2001 but anyway the

01:18:04.340 point is i don't i just don't get that all these smart people biggest budget on the planet biggest 0.99

01:18:08.960 budget in history and that you're not prepared to beat the houthis to keep the red sea open like

01:18:14.700 that should occasion deep soul searching punishment of the guilty by the way and it it hasn't and 0.99

01:18:21.620 instead we've got like a bunch of aircraft carriers in production still what is going on

01:18:26.100 well they're in production not being produced very quickly because our shipyards are a sclerotic mess

01:18:31.140 um but uh well what's going on is the bubble right it's it's not only protects the people in dc that

01:18:39.320 you and I lived among for a long time, and not only protects them from reality, it also protects

01:18:45.300 them from accountability. Yes. Looking back on 9-11, whatever people think may have happened,

01:18:52.380 you know, to cause 9-11, I certainly have my ideas. The fact is, nobody was held accountable

01:19:00.700 for the very blatant security failures, except for like, you know, Richard Clark, who whether

01:19:07.240 you like him or not he did kind of warn us it was coming and he was the one and you know i know

01:19:13.140 you know he was the one that got you know so but anyway um you know nobody's really ever held

01:19:20.200 accountable that's the whole system in dc it is one of protecting you cya you know cover your a

01:19:27.260 you know that's that's that's the whole logic and it's all political and they're going to protect

01:19:32.220 each other and closed ranks that's why after iraq by the way all of the generals remember frank's

01:19:37.980 the day that the fighting in baghdad we got baghdad in 03 the day that we did that he put in his

01:19:44.460 resignation papers and him and his top generals resigned on or retired on moss to go write their

01:19:49.740 memoirs because they knew the insurgency was going to come and the whole thing was going

01:19:53.420 to go upside down and they didn't want to be blamed so that's your that's sort of what you're

01:19:57.820 dealing with in dc whether it's the uniformed or non-uniformed people and so you know the only way

01:20:05.340 this is going to change tucker is if congress actually gets off its rear end and starts holding

01:20:10.800 the military accountable why haven't there been committee hearings yet where where is the people

01:20:15.840 in congress demanding after action briefings demanding accountability for the very clear

01:20:22.780 failures i heard seth moulton who i know is kind of a left wing you know he's kind of nutty

01:20:26.500 but seth bolton to a guy i admire the hell out of elbridge colby uh back in march he really held

01:20:33.520 bridges feet to the fire though not personally but for the organization uh the pentagon's failure

01:20:39.120 to account for the fact that we were going to burn through all the munitions that we went through

01:20:42.280 you know we need more of that and we're not getting it and that's the sort of thing that

01:20:46.420 will only ever bring accountability uh and they don't want to do it because fundamentally

01:20:50.960 everybody's somehow benefiting from the existing system right and it's it's such a recognizable

01:20:55.940 syndrome where you're destroyed by flattery not criticism it's the people who claim they love you

01:21:01.260 who encourage your worst impulses it's the what they call it like a world the enablers that's

01:21:07.480 right yeah you got a drinking problem but it's like it's not that bad you know let's go get

01:21:11.900 loaded those are the people who kill you and it's all these members of congress and fox news flag

01:21:17.400 pin wearers who are like we've got the greatest military in the world the president says that

01:21:21.720 all the time and it's like yeah it's a great military great people amazing people especially

01:21:25.120 in the ranks yeah however like they need to be held to the highest standards that's why they're

01:21:30.440 the greatest and when you drop the standards they become less impressive like well they become jack

01:21:34.600 keen i mean you know listen to him on fox and it's no one is listening to so shame well yeah

01:21:40.620 You know, or your friend Jesse Kelly, or Jesse Waters, rather, who is tweeting out all these insane things about how much winning we're doing.

01:21:51.660 And I wish that were the case. 0.52

01:21:52.780 But, you know, North Korea wants their propaganda back because this is the greatest strategic defeat of the United States, I think, maybe ever. 0.85

01:22:03.060 Thankfully, the casualties, the U.S. casualty rate was not in the many thousands. 0.85

01:22:08.160 That is a blessing.

01:22:09.460 Yes.

01:22:09.500 um that's also though because the way the war was fought um it was mostly targeting our bases

01:22:17.900 so a lot of our people thankfully were near hospitals and a lot of our people were able to

01:22:23.980 when they did get wounded severely they were able to receive very top quality treatment either

01:22:30.700 with military you know assistance or the the locals had good hospitals they were able to get

01:22:35.340 our people too and they were treated in that very important golden hour uh when one is injured and

01:22:41.180 they were i mean that is a blessing uh so in that way we can be very thankful but ultimately at the

01:22:47.260 strategic level which our military leaders should be worried about at the strategic level this is

01:22:53.020 this is the end of america's hegemony that's it those days are done that's right the charles

01:22:58.060 krauthammer's beloved unipolar moment uh completely devastated uh pat buchanan has proven right more

01:23:05.660 and more every day when he challenged krauthammer on that in the 90s you remember that i'm sure

01:23:09.980 better than me um but um you know ultimately where i think this is going on the global level tucker

01:23:17.660 and again feel free to cut me off um but where i'm going with this is it's looking to me like

01:23:22.940 the transition from unfortunately u.s being sort of the dominant global power uh to a

01:23:31.260 multi-polar system in which really china is sort of the rising dominant power that's just been

01:23:37.420 expedited that's been expedited and you know i keep hearing from people in trump's orbit that

01:23:43.660 well really this was 5d chess because we were going we collapsed venezuela and we took that

01:23:49.740 offline for china we went after iran which is another big energy source for china and we took

01:23:55.100 that offline and they're going to be on their knees well as it turned out like i said at the 0.95

01:23:58.860 beginning china was more than well prepared for this in fact i would argue that the chinese the 0.94

01:24:04.940 reason they voluntarily divorced themselves from the global market and decided to rely solely 0.71

01:24:09.900 on their very impressive spr the strategic petroleum reserve is because it was a proof

01:24:14.620 of concept for them because i think beijing knows the next move by america if this is part of some

01:24:20.300 grand bizarre crackpot plan um the next move will be eventually to go after the strait of malacca

01:24:27.260 and to try to cut china off and and they are preparing themselves for surviving that america's

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01:25:36.060 and i hope not this is not 5d chess this is drunk no this is one-dimensional checkers exactly not

01:25:42.480 even it doesn't rise to the level um and i say that with with sadness um i will say i think i

01:25:49.460 don't think i know that the administration has gotten religion on this they understand it

01:25:52.960 the consequences of proceeding are so severe that not only are they committed to ending this but

01:25:59.600 they are turning against the president himself is turning against the people who advocated for it i

01:26:04.140 guess this was all inevitable wasn't it and so yeah the enemies we'll see we'll see how well

01:26:09.240 that goes well i don't know as of this morning at least in this country yeah that's my next 0.86

01:26:14.500 question to you yeah okay what do you do actually to restrain israel which is the impediment to

01:26:18.760 settling this but it i would say domestically trump has totally soured on mark levin not

01:26:24.220 guessing he has on mark i don't know how you were ever sweet on mark well i totally i the whole

01:26:30.280 thing was was like a deranged episode it was like that you know weird affair you had like

01:26:35.840 do you know what i mean like i can't believe i ever found that girl attractive like what was i

01:26:38.960 thinking and the takeaway from those experiences in the life of a man is don't always trust your

01:26:45.740 own judgment like i have the capacity to go crazy but anyway that's right so i do think they or he

01:26:52.560 again i don't think i know is now like actively angry at the people who helped convince him to

01:26:58.520 do this but that's not the same as getting this done getting the mou hammered out and translated

01:27:05.680 into an enduring peace what does the administration need to do to achieve that do you think well the

01:27:11.020 first thing is trump needs to stop having natalie text out these insane things about how he's going

01:27:15.920 to kill uh the negotiators i mean that would be the first you know just just putting going for

01:27:23.400 low-hanging fruit here um you know so first that then we then we would probably say um

01:27:31.000 mr president you really need to um use this as an opportunity a teachable moment as obama used to

01:27:38.920 lecture us about a real teachable moment here we can really use this as a window to actually

01:27:45.240 implement the very brilliant and i know you know that i supported this national security

01:27:50.680 strategy memo from last year which said we weren't going to do any of this nobody read it but it was

01:27:58.440 great nobody read it so mark levin did his siren song from fox news and dragged us in but but i 1.00

01:28:05.580 would say that this is a real opportunity because the arabs don't want us around anymore i mean they 0.99

01:28:09.220 want to do business with us um which is great that's fine uh because i don't know if i want 1.00

01:28:13.580 to do business with us after this chat show um but they want to do business with us still for the

01:28:18.280 most part so this is a real opportunity for us to create sort of a long-term exit strategy from the

01:28:25.120 whole geopolitical quicksand let the locals figure out their own mess they know the neighborhood 0.94

01:28:30.720 better they'll figure it out by the way big brother always being around for israel is the 0.99

01:28:36.080 absolute worst thing for israel because it creates this sort of we talk about moral hazard when we

01:28:41.780 talk about like bailouts well in this case it's moral hazard in a geopolitical sense because the

01:28:46.680 israelis think we're always going to bail them out so and we can't do that anymore because i just

01:28:50.560 told you we depleted all of our systems as well oh by the way i'm going to tell you this fun fact

01:28:54.740 i was told not long ago by a little birdie uh that actually the israelis were stunned by how

01:29:01.220 many of our defensive munitions we expended on their behalf because the israelis didn't expend

01:29:08.500 anywhere near as many of their critical defensive munitions defending their own cities and their own

01:29:14.700 country they were they were they couldn't believe the americans even let the iranians attack

01:29:19.780 american territory or american facilities in the arab states uh and they let we sent all that stuff

01:29:26.320 to israel so the israelis didn't even use anywhere near the level of because you know why because

01:29:31.480 we're all mike huckabee it's like our leaders love israel more than israel loves itself it's

01:29:36.500 like it reminds you the george floyd thing i'll never forget video of like some liberal white 0.91

01:29:40.480 lady washing the feet of a black woman the black woman's like why are you washing my feet like this 1.00

01:29:47.220 is weird the black ladies the white liberals like i love you you're holy the black lady's like oh 0.99

01:29:52.900 you're freaking me out yeah that's right that's right that's right and that's exactly what we're 0.98

01:29:56.760 seeing here play out so the first thing i would say is this is an opportunity to pull out and

01:30:01.300 never go back pull out right now never go back in the process get on the phone with bibby and

01:30:08.280 explain to him a multi-point plan for stopping sending the aid uh that we've been sending uh we

01:30:17.320 are not going to engage anymore in intelligence sharing at any level that we've been doing we are

01:30:23.300 not by the way there's i i can reference a bunch of former cia guys and one former u.s army

01:30:29.780 intelligence officer that i know who told me that when he was in iraq he was charged with basically

01:30:36.580 dealing with a certain area of the Sunni triangle in 04, 05. And he said that basically, hey,

01:30:43.980 there was a group of Mossad operating here, and they were interrupting and interfering with our

01:30:49.940 missions to try to stop al-Qaeda in Iraq from doing whatever the hell they were doing. And I

01:30:55.980 said, you know, I asked him, I go, well, what do you think was the reason? He goes, I'm not even

01:30:59.120 going to get into that because I don't want to lose my pension. So, you know, we're dealing with

01:31:04.420 not you know a non-ally ally fighting a non-war war with a non-cease-fire cease-fire right now

01:31:12.600 so it's all very sort of you know nihilistic but wait can i just ask you to back up for a second

01:31:17.800 and and explain a little more deeply what you think that comment meant about massad operating

01:31:24.580 in iraq in the sunni triangle i think that they had people on the ground and we you know this is

01:31:29.720 me now just sort of speculating based on that this is not okay um so my speculation is this was a few

01:31:37.080 years before isis really got i mean before the the syrian civil war really got going but remember

01:31:43.720 there was a whole build-up before it even popped off um and one of those build-ups was we let out 0.64

01:31:49.800 all of the al-qaeda and iraq fighters from camp buka which was a very nasty facility uh along

01:31:56.680 the syrian border uh all those guys ended up going back into syria and they became basically

01:32:02.440 the nucleus of al-nusra front and isis and that basically was our shock troops against assad

01:32:09.800 and we armed them with the arms that we got from qaddafi through benghazi which is what 0.69

01:32:15.960 benghazi really was about exactly and the turks were running it was the rat line yeah so so 0.90

01:32:20.440 But basically, I can't help but to wonder if the reason Mossad or Israeli intelligence

01:32:28.200 was on the ground in that particular area of the country of Iraq during that time is

01:32:33.860 because they were doing something to try to shape what would eventually become sort of

01:32:39.820 the nucleus of the attack on Assad.

01:32:42.420 Because we know that seven nations in seven years, or whatever the quote from General

01:32:46.820 clark was right we know there was some grand plan originally that the neoconservatives paul

01:32:53.180 wolfowitz and the clean break memo guys all concocted that would have seen us going after

01:32:58.860 i mean i was told by somebody who was there that in 2004 john bolton and dick cheney were trying

01:33:05.620 to convince bush to bomb assad in 04 um so i think this is somehow that story is somehow related

01:33:13.620 to what, because we know there was a buildup before suddenly all these things just popped

01:33:18.320 off in Syria. There was part of a plan. William Van Wagenen talks a lot about things like this

01:33:24.500 in his wonderful book, Creative Chaos. Highly recommend your audience. William's a friend of

01:33:28.760 mine, and he's in the region, actually, a very insightful guy. But he, you know, there's a lot

01:33:34.720 of people that can get deeper into this than I will. But fundamentally, I do believe that

01:33:38.900 that there there was an israeli however small footprint notably in western iraq and they were

01:33:45.560 doing something i think probably related to what we ultimately saw play out in syria

01:33:49.500 that would not surprise me and that would explain why there was all of a sudden this

01:33:54.360 overnight consensus in the u.s congress throughout washington really they quote assad must go

01:33:59.140 and exactly a guy who had been celebrated in the western press nancy pelosi shook hands with him

01:34:05.660 of course and why wouldn't you he was a religious minority in his own country who protected religious

01:34:11.020 minorities and an ophthalmologist too london london trained with a very attractive multilingual wife

01:34:18.060 and like the whole thing it's the levant it's like a moderate you know uh a thing but protected the

01:34:23.820 ancient christian communities of syria and then all of a sudden in one day it was like no no the

01:34:30.060 real problem is assad and we need to like blame a fake but there's also a russia thing that we we

01:34:38.460 were and i talked about this in my last book but there was i know that there was a group of shall

01:34:44.620 we say thinkers um in dc who had been pushing this idea that we needed to roll back russia's warm

01:34:52.700 water ports after the cold war one of those smaller ports but very important for their navy

01:34:58.700 was tartis and the idea was you're going to have to get rid of assad to push back the russian

01:35:04.300 influence there so there was also some connectivity there uh with some of these these globalists

01:35:10.060 after the cold war so you had that sort of weird fusion of islamist terrorists anti-russia stuff

01:35:17.180 israel turkey so it's kind of weird you know polyglot admixture of imponderables but there

01:35:24.380 they were of all the the most dedicated opponents of civilization finding of america right now i know

01:35:32.060 it doesn't surprise me at all so you said at the outset that you're skeptical that

01:35:37.660 this mou and negotiations ongoing in switzerland will lead to a durable peace why yeah well i think

01:35:44.700 that the three parties are still not quite on the same page like i said i think if trump the trump

01:35:49.900 team and the Iranians kind of could do their own thing I think probably they

01:35:54.280 might be able to get a more durable deal I think how this is gonna play out is

01:35:58.580 the model is gonna be very similar to the tariffs where it was sort of like

01:36:01.660 every 45 days we're just gonna keep extending we'll keep extending you know

01:36:05.360 for some of these these these things with the tariffs I just don't think that

01:36:10.480 I think that the Americans know that if they really do walk away from the

01:36:17.900 Strait of Hormuz. If you look at what's going on right now, and the Strait of Hormuz has really

01:36:21.800 become the center of gravity here. If you look at what's going on in the Strait of Hormuz, Marco

01:36:26.060 Rubio and his gang are all saying, you know, it's not even possible. Nobody would ever toll

01:36:31.760 the Strait of Hormuz. Well, the Turks toll the Turkish Straits. So, I mean, that alone is, 1.00

01:36:37.920 you know, sort of ridiculous when you hear that. The Montreux Convention works very well and has

01:36:43.100 since 1936.

01:36:44.740 There's no reason why we couldn't figure out

01:36:46.660 some new way to make everybody happy there.

01:36:49.100 But anyway, I think as long as you have those voices

01:36:52.340 who are in the President's ear,

01:36:53.920 micturating these crazy ideas,

01:36:57.520 I just think that you're always going to have

01:36:59.340 sort of this tension where I think that the President

01:37:02.880 will always be one foot in, one foot out,

01:37:05.620 and that's not good.

01:37:07.220 We don't need that right now.

01:37:08.260 We need to just get out.

01:37:10.160 So I'm just very skeptical.

01:37:11.520 I am a natural skeptic, though, Tucker, I should say.

01:37:13.740 I'm skeptical of many things.

01:37:15.760 Me too.

01:37:16.800 So that's just my background. 1.00

01:37:18.780 But I also think the Israelis are the real wild card. 0.98

01:37:21.740 And the fact of the matter is, look, they've got a cluster of dolphin-class submarines with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles likely sitting off the coast of Iran right now. 0.97

01:37:32.640 You know, what's to stop them?

01:37:34.660 I mean, you're not wrong to bring up that possibility.

01:37:36.820 if they really think that this whole thing's going to go pear-shaped,

01:37:41.180 what's to stop them from just saying, F this,

01:37:43.360 we're going to try to do it our way, the way we wanted to do.

01:37:46.060 So this is why I'm, there's just so many different competing interests. 0.99

01:37:50.060 The Iranians are never going to let go of the Strait of Hormuz. 0.81

01:37:52.760 And I don't know if Trump is going to be okay with that. 0.99

01:37:55.340 They are going to start tolling.

01:37:56.680 So the 60 days is what we have. 0.93

01:38:00.620 By the way, the Iranians have the first 30 days to reopen the Strait fully.

01:38:04.400 do you really think the iranians are going to reopen everything immediately no they're gonna

01:38:09.120 they're gonna they're gonna drag this out because they want to make sure the americans are going to

01:38:13.280 hold up their end of the bargain and we never have so far so the iranians are going to drag this out

01:38:17.680 that's going to then get us to day 31 we will be reaching bottom barrel uh of our strategic

01:38:23.680 petroleum reserve uh gary vogler explained this to me on my twitter page recently and he's an oil

01:38:29.040 expert that but he explained that salt caverns where our oil is held it basically the oil is

01:38:36.480 tainted there and the deeper you go into those things the more tainted and the less usable the

01:38:42.240 oil becomes uh so basically they're saying officially the eia says that we have 340 million

01:38:49.340 barrels remaining now i think it's probably of usable closer to 100 million uh barrels and if

01:38:55.860 We can't get the strait reopened and the Arab production back up and running,

01:39:01.080 which every expert I've spoken to says it's going to take weeks, probably months,

01:39:05.280 under the best conditions to restart Arab production for a variety of reasons.

01:39:10.980 That means that the Iranians not letting up on the Strait of Hormuz fully right now.

01:39:16.100 That is going to create shortages, complications here in the United States

01:39:21.700 because we're hitting bottom barrel.

01:39:23.500 uh and so this is going to compound and create i think greater political pressure on trump

01:39:29.180 uh and i think that that's that's going to cause a lot of problems for maybe not getting a full-time

01:39:35.300 resolution but maybe i'm wrong i'm happy to be because i would love to see us just done with

01:39:39.160 this whole thing it after the midterms and when you know there's a new political reality that's

01:39:46.040 measurable because there will be at that point um yeah i mean that's the upside of elections

01:39:52.200 whether they're real or not they establish a new baseline of where we are and what voters want right

01:39:55.960 no it's true or and even if they're not real i could guarantee you they're not going to rig it

01:39:59.720 in favor of trump i don't know if trump's deluded himself into thinking that but uh

01:40:03.640 it will not happen i've lost track of what i think but anyway here's the point

01:40:08.600 i don't see the pre-march status quo politically surviving where 95 of members of congress

01:40:22.520 whatever over 90 of members take money from a pack or some version of a pack where every member

01:40:29.160 of congress says you know unthinkingly i support israel they're our greatest ally like i just don't

01:40:35.000 see that but maybe i'm wrong but i just don't see how that survives this moment i i i can't imagine

01:40:41.000 it serve i think this is sort of the height of it and it's going to all now be downhill because

01:40:45.960 even if you take all of the boomers and this is a generational thing you take all the boomers in

01:40:51.000 both parties who support the sort of the status quo let's face it they're not going to be around

01:40:56.520 much longer i mean i hate to speak that way but inevitably soon it's going to change and the next

01:41:01.800 generation is much more skeptical of israel and you know some of them are some of them are anti-semites

01:41:08.600 there's no doubt there are definitely anti-semites out there but most of the people who are skeptical

01:41:13.160 are skeptical with good reason they're skeptical because they recognize there is a delineation

01:41:18.120 between american interests and israel interests and when they eventually rise to power in congress

01:41:23.880 this new generation in both parties i think i think there's a reason that israel's trying to

01:41:29.560 basically permanently integrate aid uh in this current national defense authorization act and

01:41:34.760 the current intelligence authorization act i think it's because their their allies know that in

01:41:40.280 another 10 years it's it's a totally different ball game for israel they're not going to be

01:41:45.640 getting the kind of support i don't know that it could take 10 years i don't know 10 years but i

01:41:50.280 got it so tom cotton is the driving force behind the idea of giving up the sovereignty of our

01:41:56.280 intel agencies to a foreign country he's also as far as i know the chairman of the senate

01:42:00.920 intelligence committee and the sitting u.s senator that's treason obviously i don't know his motive

01:42:07.160 for that i have some guesses but can that continue can you have the chairman of the senate intel

01:42:13.480 committee demanding that we have mandatory intel sharing with a foreign pretty obviously hostile

01:42:21.240 country that's that's bonkers it is bonkers but it's just crazy enough uh where

01:42:28.760 the world we're living in tucker um yeah tom cotton uh

01:42:35.320 he he's clearly not speaking for himself and um you know so i think that he will continue to push

01:42:44.440 this as long as he's in that position um and i think he will continue to be in that position

01:42:48.600 until pete hegseth is gone from the pentagon because i think the ultimate plan is to put him

01:42:52.920 in or at least it was to replace switch out pete with uh with tom cotton um that's not an upgrade

01:42:59.960 i'm sorry no no maybe an iq upgrade but it's not maybe he washes his hands more uh but uh

01:43:08.600 um but i think that cotton will continue to push this and do i think that it will go forward

01:43:14.680 ah you know they already passed the senate version it's now got to go through the next

01:43:19.040 next round um this is why they're doing this now is because this is the last shot for them

01:43:26.060 and i think that tom cotton's motivations are not his own and i don't want to get too deep into that

01:43:31.560 but i think that tom yeah yeah and i think that there are many more and i think the fact that

01:43:35.680 he and graham and all these other people i think the fact that they're continue to be so publicly

01:43:41.940 you know supportive of these moves indicates still how much maneuvering room they still have

01:43:48.700 right now i also think it's interesting though um you know cotton has been really pushing hard

01:43:55.420 to basically cancel or end the dni the director of national intelligence that whole office and

01:44:00.800 this is something that after 9-11 a lot of intelligence professionals looked back and said

01:44:06.200 look we don't need the dni it gets in the way blah blah blah the republicans and democrats both

01:44:11.020 never wanted to get rid of it now he wants to get rid of it i think it's just because he's worried

01:44:16.540 another tulsi might one day be put in permanently to the dni who might actually uncover a lot of

01:44:22.540 the nefariousness that our our people have been up to in the intelligence world and so he wants to

01:44:28.140 to neuter that capability and return it exactly to the director of central intelligence not just

01:44:33.420 our people but people with whom we are quote allied i mean it was tom cotton who expressed

01:44:39.820 i mean this is a fact he's denied it but it's it's a fact that shortly into this administration

01:44:46.140 he expressed concern that the kennedy that all the jfk files would be released well that's not

01:44:51.340 you know he doesn't care it's an act of congress uh well right it's in and later i mean it was an

01:44:58.380 executive order but like tom cotton's like whoa why are we doing that and that's of course to

01:45:01.980 cover for a foreign country so that's like crazy behavior well it is look it is it's treasonous

01:45:07.660 and he's not the only one and also i think that this war powers vote i think from what a day or

01:45:13.580 two ago in the senate i actually don't think that was anybody standing on principle um i think what

01:45:21.180 that was was a quiet message to trump uh you remember in the last week trump pulled clayton's

01:45:28.700 nomination for dni clayton is the guy you know that tom cotton lindsey graham and all the neocons

01:45:37.260 wanted to replace tulsi and for whatever reason trump nominated him probably because susie

01:45:42.120 nominated him um and he now has bill pulte who whatever people think of him he is gonna just

01:45:49.880 salute and gut all of these people uh without because he doesn't know anything that's going 0.95

01:45:54.680 on in dni he's a he's a real estate guy but he's gonna go in there he's gonna kill everything 0.98

01:45:58.540 uh he's gonna drain that particular part of the swamp and then also trump is trying to get the

01:46:04.440 SAVE Act tied and FISA reauthorization tied to all of this. I think the War Powers Act was the

01:46:12.800 Senate telling Trump, we can get you, do not interfere with us. And I think that wing of

01:46:19.020 the Senate is the neoconservative wing that wants FISA reauthorized, that wants to see the SAVE Act

01:46:25.920 not passed. And ultimately, I don't think these things are going to get passed, by the way,

01:46:29.960 and wants to see someone like what i think it's clayton um from the sec or from the southern

01:46:34.900 district of new york um they want to see that guy in there and of course that guy for your

01:46:40.660 audience may not know this but he was the guy that effed up supposedly by accident the epstein

01:46:46.800 file release yep or last year so we have another epstein class uh being promoted by the neocons

01:46:54.620 as the new dni they prefer him over bill pulte so it's the agenda is more spying on americans

01:47:01.740 there is no fourth amendment no voter id because why would we want secure elections then like

01:47:07.620 voters would have a say and energy prices that drive people into poverty and like all of this

01:47:14.560 seems aimed at the american population it's certainly these are decisions made without

01:47:18.060 reference to what people want no one wants any of this you're sounding a lot like my dear friend

01:47:22.920 Michael Yan, who's been saying this is actually a war on the American people.

01:47:26.240 It's so obvious.

01:47:27.240 And don't forget, the Strait of Hormuz closure, one third of the world's agricultural

01:47:33.360 base supplies, that's cut off.

01:47:36.580 And we are in the dead of planting season.

01:47:39.060 And what's going to happen now here in the United States, as well as elsewhere, it's

01:47:42.440 going to be worse elsewhere, but it's going to be bad here.

01:47:45.220 We in the United States here, not this year, probably, because we're still running off

01:47:49.720 reserves from last planting season but next year the delayed impact of not having planted enough

01:47:55.560 because we didn't have enough urea uh fertilizer we're going to be talking about severe shortages

01:48:01.960 in the agricultural sector of baseline goods that every american needs you've also now again

01:48:07.560 channeling michael here uh the screw worm which is a highly devastating to crops and livestock

01:48:14.440 um a parasite we had gotten it out of north america about a century ago now in the last

01:48:21.760 three years it's popped up again because it's supposedly it was brought up with all the illegal

01:48:25.720 immigration they they basically brought in a bunch of by accident supposedly contaminants

01:48:31.640 and whatnot and the screw worm larva was one of them and now they're finding them in texas and

01:48:37.420 the cattle there and that's very bad um so i think they found some in florida central florida

01:48:44.020 recently as well the point is is that um all the stuff that we as americans take for granted

01:48:50.240 abundant food affordable groceries energy all of this stuff is being denied to us on some level

01:48:56.640 it's being complicated our ability to get that and it's being done because of policy it's not

01:49:02.880 being done because there's an actual shortage no it's being done because of policy either war or

01:49:08.020 whatever but remember the war was a war of choice it's not like the iranians attacked us

01:49:12.960 so all of this is certainly you start getting into a very dark place uh tucker and i know i've

01:49:19.660 certainly gone down don't don't let my sunny disposition confuse you i i've certainly gone

01:49:24.720 down i'm very blessed i have a beautiful family and and so i'm i'm very happy in my personal life

01:49:29.520 but but uh you know i talk about some pretty bleak things and you can start to see the darkness in

01:49:35.100 human hearts and particularly our leaders particularly our leaders yeah i have some

01:49:39.540 thoughts which i'm not going to express because that's dark enough but i i know i hope you will

01:49:43.560 come back and it's just it's great uh anytime get your analysis i learned i just learned a lot

01:49:49.000 so brandon well thank you thank you great to see you god bless god bless that's it for us

01:49:55.200 we'll see you next wednesday thank you

The Tucker Carlson Show - June 25, 2026

JD Vance’s Warning to Israel, the Last Desperate Move of Israel-Firsters & Iran’s Growing Strength

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