The Tucker Carlson Show - Jesse Kelly & Nicole Shanahan： Transhumanism, Kamala’s Plan to Take Your Guns, and How to Save Texas

00:00:00.000 Thank you. Thank you for having me.

00:00:10.000 I love being here. Thank you. Oh, I know you. I feel like I know a lot of people here. I have so

00:00:17.680 many relatives in Texas that, no, it's true. Some of them are from here. Others fled as the rest of

00:00:25.440 the country collapsed, but I'm always here. It's so wonderful. I mean, I guess no matter where I was,

00:00:32.560 if I was in Bayonne, New Jersey, I'd pretend to like it, but I actually do love Texas. I don't

00:00:36.640 have to pretend. And I'm sure there's great stuff going on in Bayonne. You don't even know where that

00:00:43.920 is, do you? Good. Anyway, thank you so much for having me. We have protesters outside,

00:00:50.720 which I love. No, it's amazing. Someone just told me that we've been on the road. This is our

00:00:55.600 ninth night. We're going coast to coast, uh, 16 different cities. And the idea was, you know,

00:01:02.160 you want to see the country that you love, that you were born in, that you're going to die in

00:01:05.440 and that you really care about, but also they can't censor a live event. And there's something

00:01:12.800 about being in the, in a room full of people you agree with that is so great. It's like a spa

00:01:19.600 treatment. It's incredible. If you spend your life experiencing the rest of the country through

00:01:24.960 your phone or your television or your radio, the eight people who still read newspapers through the

00:01:30.400 newspaper, you really get such a distorted sense. It's not an accident, of course. Um, they're trying

00:01:37.840 to make you dislike your country and have contempt for it and feel hopeless about it. But above all,

00:01:43.200 they're trying to make you feel crazy. Like you're the only person who feels the way that you do,

00:01:49.120 that this is bizarre. You're thinking this is bizarre. You know, you're lying. You're insane.

00:01:55.280 And that I think is a normal person's reaction to the news, particularly recently. And of course, 1.00

00:02:00.400 they're flipping it around on you and being like, no, no, everything's fine. You're crazy. 1.00

00:02:04.560 You're crazy. And by the way, after a while, I was the Soviets used to do this to, to any sort 1.00

00:02:12.240 of dissenter, you know, they put them in a mental hospital. Like you're crazy. You don't think the 0.98

00:02:16.160 experiment's working. It's working just fine. And you know, the truth is like, they can kind of

00:02:23.200 convince you that there's something wrong with you or that you're an extremist or something because

00:02:27.120 you think what they're doing is nuts. Um, and that's one of the real reasons I wanted to get out

00:02:32.320 and just be in rooms full of people who are not crazy at all. They're the most normal people

00:02:41.200 in the country, which by the way, is the whole country. I mean, the percentage of people who are

00:02:46.560 on board with the things that are happening now is tiny and the polls don't reflect. I mean, the polls

00:02:51.760 are a reflection of a bunch of things. Part of it is party identification. Part of it is fear,

00:02:58.480 you know, convincing people that, you know, your side may be terrible, but the other side is really

00:03:02.160 dangerous. Um, and part of them are just absolutely fake. I mean, they're not even real. They're designed

00:03:07.360 to discourage you and to tell you a story that's not rooted in reality. But whatever the cause of

00:03:14.400 bad polling, it doesn't measure the truth about the country, which is most people are not mad at each

00:03:19.120 other at all. Most people have more in common than they don't. They live here. They're Americans. They have

00:03:24.720 basically 99% of things in common and they're not mad at each other. And I know that because I always

00:03:29.680 think of myself as the most hated person in America, probably some truth in that. 1.00

00:03:34.160 But you know, when I show up at your Quiznos or something for my unhealthy lunch, no one ever says

00:03:40.000 anything nasty. Everyone's nice. Oh, I love you too. Were you, were you at Quiznos?

00:03:46.720 I think I saw you. You were getting the turkey. Um, but it's funny. It's, it really is a lie.

00:03:57.840 People in this country are not actually at an individual level divided by race or sex or party

00:04:03.920 ID to anywhere near the extent that they tell you at all. Like who is actually for,

00:04:09.680 I don't know, inflation or no borders or castrating your kids and having no grandchildren. Like no one

00:04:17.040 is for that. They're like nine rich ladies in LA are for that. Everybody else hates it. 1.00

00:04:23.040 That's just true. And you're just reminded of that when you travel.

00:04:27.360 And that's why I do wish I had had a chance to meet the protesters. I kind of like protesters.

00:04:32.880 They're just interesting. And when you confront them in person, they never, you know,

00:04:36.000 they never have the stones to get mad at you. That was a little embarrassed. Are you calling me

00:04:39.920 a Nazi? Oh no, not you. That's my picture on your side. Well, I didn't, I didn't see that. Okay.

00:04:49.760 But it's just so funny. It's like, I always have the exact same thought because, you know,

00:04:53.280 you try to be reflective. And when people call you names, I do think it's really important to ask

00:04:57.760 yourself, honestly, in some quiet place, the shower is a good spot. Um, you know, is that true?

00:05:04.320 Am I what they're calling me? Because you don't want to be the things they're calling you actually.

00:05:09.120 And you don't want to let them turn you in to the things they're calling you,

00:05:13.040 which is also part of the goal to upset you so much that you become the hater they claim you are.

00:05:18.480 But so I have been through this process for, you know, so many years where they call you something.

00:05:22.160 And I actually do try to take stock. Like, am I that person? I don't want to be that person.

00:05:25.600 Am I that person? And the one thing that always makes me laugh is when, and I'm sure every person

00:05:31.040 this room has been called it, but an extremist, you're an extremist. I was like, you know, whatever

00:05:37.040 else I am, you know, a dessert eater, some other unattractive qualities, I'll admit it.

00:05:44.480 But whatever else I am, I'm the opposite of an extremist. I hate change. My parents got divorced.

00:05:49.280 I'm totally opposed to change. I don't like any change. It's just, I honestly have a really clear

00:05:56.000 vision of America that doesn't strike me as extremist. It strikes me as the opposite. I

00:05:59.600 liked America in 1985 actually very well. And I'm sure a lot of people in this room

00:06:06.640 aren't old enough to remember 1985. And those of you who aren't may think, well, you know,

00:06:11.520 did they have electricity and air conditioning and air travel then? Was the country segregated? No.

00:06:18.800 It was awesome. There was very little conversation about the things that divided us.

00:06:26.000 There was a ton of conversation about fun, irrelevant things like sports and the weather,

00:06:31.200 and like that really mattered. And in a healthy society, a happy society, people's focus is not

00:06:36.080 entirely on politics, of course. Politics is what you do to make the things that are important

00:06:41.440 possible, like your marriage, your children, your religious faith, your job. Politics is the price you

00:06:48.960 pay for the freedom to continue doing what you want to do, to live your life without bothering people.

00:06:53.520 And in 1985, most people lived lives like that. I never heard of a family in 1985 that was divided

00:06:59.280 by politics. Everybody had some sort of crazy, you know, organic peanut butter aunt, you know what 0.82

00:07:05.040 I mean? Who'd sort of never gotten over the 60s. And she was sort of nice, long, complicated earrings,

00:07:10.080 faint aroma of incense, marijuana. It wasn't clear what it was, but you know, a musky scent.

00:07:15.840 And she was pretty enthused about the whales and she wasn't fully in touch with like shaving her body

00:07:22.880 hair and whatever, you know. But she wasn't mad at you. You weren't mad at her. You considered her

00:07:30.960 faintly hilarious and she would like sit in Indian style and ask you about your feelings and you'd be

00:07:35.600 like, okay, you know. But there was no sense in which families that I recall anyway, and I grew up in

00:07:43.360 California. I'm embarrassed to say that to Texans since you've been invaded by them. You should have built a wall, 1.00

00:07:50.560 actually, on your Western. No, I'm serious. You should have. You should have. But you didn't.

00:08:01.440 Man, they're everywhere and I can spot them. You know, you know your own people. Anyway.

00:08:09.920 But there was no sense in which politics was the most important thing at all. Because at the time,

00:08:15.840 and this is the difference in 1985, we had leaders, some of whom I agreed with,

00:08:20.000 some of whom I didn't. But none of them took it as their personal mission to divide the country they

00:08:25.680 led and make people hate each other. That would be unthinkable in 1985. And in fact, it would be

00:08:32.720 unthinkable to any normal person. Because the last thing you ever do is divide the people you're in

00:08:39.680 charge of. And if you're a parent, you know this. If you're a parent, your deepest desire, your secret

00:08:45.920 dream, the thing that motivates you above all is the idea that your children will love each other.

00:08:52.320 Because you're going to be gone. As I heard someone say the other day, we get our,

00:08:58.960 you know, we lose our parents way too soon. We find our spouses and our children way too late,

00:09:05.360 but it's our siblings who are with us from beginning to end. And that's true. And every parent knows that's

00:09:09.600 true. And so the measure of a happy family, I've always thought, is the degree to which

00:09:15.440 the children, the siblings, the brothers and sisters love each other and are united. And

00:09:19.120 that's what you leave behind much more than any real estate portfolio or money that you pass on,

00:09:24.080 is the love between your offspring. That's such a natural desire. But it's true

00:09:30.080 in every human organization. The leader's job is twofold. One, to be courageous, because the bravest

00:09:40.240 man is the leader, regardless of title. It doesn't matter. Bravery is the indispensable quality in a

00:09:45.600 leader, period. Period. And the second is the unity of the people you lead. And that's true in your

00:09:54.720 office. It's true in your platoon if you serve in the military. And it's above all true in your family.

00:09:59.040 And of course it's true at scale in a country of 350 million people. And so it takes an extraordinary

00:10:05.520 kind of leader, an evil leader, by definition evil, to set out to intentionally divide people

00:10:12.640 he leads. Period. And that is what we've seen. And you may be wondering, well, wait a second.

00:10:20.480 Aren't you getting to motive? How can you know the motive of our leaders? Because you can't see their

00:10:26.720 hearts. Only God knows what they really think. And that is a fair rebuttal. Now, no one actually said

00:10:31.360 that I'm anticipating your criticism ahead of time. And I've changed my thinking on this. I've always,

00:10:37.360 since I've been in journalism my whole life, I've always sort of, you know, kept away from guessing

00:10:41.440 people's motives, because honestly you can't know. But I have decided in middle age that actually I can

00:10:48.160 know. And I know motive by result. The result is the goal over time. In other words, if you keep

00:10:56.240 doing something and winding up in a certain place, you meant to get to that place, no matter what you

00:11:01.840 tell me. It doesn't matter what story you tell me. It doesn't matter what story you tell yourself.

00:11:07.120 All I care about is the effect because I judge the tree by its fruits. You can tell me you're a lemon

00:11:14.800 tree, but if pears come out, I think you're lying. To yourself or to me or both, it doesn't matter.

00:11:22.320 You're not a lemon tree, you're a pear tree. And so if the effect of your policies is to divide the people

00:11:28.320 you lead and make them hate each other and divide the essential organization in human civilization in life,

00:11:34.160 which is the family, you meant to do that. And there's nothing more evil than that. When they

00:11:39.840 sent us home for Thanksgiving three years ago and told us on television, your job when you get home

00:11:45.040 for Thanksgiving, a sacred secular holiday, the only holiday that all Americans share, actually,

00:11:50.400 regardless of religious faith, Thanksgiving, where we give thanks for this nation that we inherited.

00:11:56.320 When they sent us home from cable news to Thanksgiving, they told us explicitly,

00:12:03.280 you go home and you find your uncle, your grandmother, your dad, whoever's not with the

00:12:09.600 program, and you lecture them about whatever, Black Lives Matter, the VAX, it doesn't matter,

00:12:13.840 COVID, the mask, social distancing. The pretext was irrelevant. The point was they worked intentionally

00:12:22.880 to turn children against their parents, to turn Americans against their neighbors, to turn the races 0.96

00:12:29.360 against each other. They've been on that program for 60 years, and it still hasn't worked.

00:12:34.480 Most Americans do not hate each other on the basis of their race. Boy, have they failed on that program.

00:12:40.160 I've been called a racist a million times, and yet I have never one time in all the years I've lived

00:12:50.720 in this country, which is 55, ever been attacked by someone of a different race because I'm a racist.

00:12:57.040 Not one person has ever said that. The only person who's ever said that to me are the private equity

00:12:59.840 wives in the ski lift in Jackson Hole. I'm serious. Sitting trying to enjoy my elk chili at the four seasons

00:13:08.320 between runs. It's the only people who've ever called me that are rich ladies. I'm just being

00:13:12.560 honest with you. And I always say the same thing, which is I don't like you actually.

00:13:19.040 That doesn't make me racist. It just makes me discerning.

00:13:27.280 And you sort of wonder, sorry, sorry, sorry. I will cop to bigotry. That's my bigotry.

00:13:32.640 Sorry. I'll admit it. It actually makes me feel guilty to admit that there's a group of people I just

00:13:37.920 don't like as a category, but it is private equity wives. So, sorry, now that I've gotten this like

00:13:44.640 an AA meeting, I'm just getting it all out there. I'm just telling you the truth. Those are my sins.

00:13:50.880 But you sort of think to yourself, like, what happened? What was the change? And the truth is,

00:13:54.960 for whatever reason, and I think it's clearly a product of a spiritual battle in the unseen world,

00:14:00.160 which is totally real. I didn't grow up thinking, I should also say, since we're being honest with each

00:14:05.840 other, I am from La Jolla, California. Yeah. Who said, yeah?

00:14:13.920 That's not a town where the spiritual battle was much discussed.

00:14:18.960 We had one topic of conversation in La Jolla, which was the weather,

00:14:22.800 which never changed, by the way, which is sort of amazing. I never realized it at the time,

00:14:26.400 but people in San Diego County in 1980 could talk for like all day about the weather. And the

00:14:31.280 conversation would go something like, you know, it's 75 and partly cloudy. Yeah. But this afternoon,

00:14:35.040 it's going up to 77 and sunny. And then it's going to go back down to about 74. And this would go on

00:14:40.960 for 12 months here. That was the only topic. You could bring up anything you wanted. It was very

00:14:45.520 sort of open-minded. I mean, if you decide to become a lesbian nun or, you know, there's nothing too

00:14:50.160 weird for my neighbors, right? The one thing you couldn't mention was anything transcendent. 0.77

00:14:55.520 Like, for example, you were not allowed to die where I grew up. No dying. No one ever died at all. And if

00:15:00.480 someone did die, like you could never talk about it. That was like very offensive. People didn't die.

00:15:05.600 They just got in the car and drove to Palm Springs and you just never, the presumption was they were

00:15:09.520 on vacation. You never saw them again. There was no acknowledgement on all that they died because

00:15:14.400 that would raise the question of like, what happens next? And nobody wanted to talk about that. So I did

00:15:20.880 not grow up in a world where, you know, the spiritual battle was discussed, acknowledged,

00:15:26.080 in any sense at all. I've come to this by watching empirically on the basis of evidence. And it's just

00:15:32.320 so clearly true that human beings are being acted upon at all times by forces that they can't see,

00:15:38.720 and that this has been the case since the beginning of recorded history because all of history is about

00:15:42.880 that battle. Every religion, all literature, all art. And really only people who grew up in La Jolla,

00:15:51.040 California in about 1980 didn't know that. So it's like a huge shock to me. What? I talked to,

00:15:56.560 I had dinner with, as I said, my cousins last night in Houston. I was telling them about this. They're

00:16:00.240 just like nodding. And I'm like, no, but is that unbelievable? And they're like, yeah,

00:16:03.920 duh. You know, we went to Second Baptist. We knew that.

00:16:10.400 So the people, some people have really changed. What's so striking and what I

00:16:15.840 want the substance of tonight to be about is about how so many other people have changed in

00:16:22.640 different ways. And that's a thing that nobody ever acknowledges or not don't acknowledge enough

00:16:26.800 and that I don't acknowledge to myself enough. And so I think if you're like me and you've been

00:16:31.120 paying attention over the last several years, like, what is this? This is not politics. Clearly,

00:16:34.880 this is just evil. Let's just be honest. This is evil. There's no reason. You know, Americans are so 1.00

00:16:41.360 patriotic and nice and on the side of the little guy and the underdog. And you know,

00:16:45.040 you can absolutely gin up support for any kind of foreign conflict. If you tell people, you know,

00:16:50.160 we're on the side of good against the forces of evil. And once again, they're leveraging as they

00:16:55.280 are with immigration, your best instincts, your decency, your humanity, your compassion,

00:16:59.520 and using them against you. Okay. You're a good person. By the way, Texas has had immigrants since 1.00

00:17:05.040 it was a land grant state and they've been great for Texas. I would say there's no more pro

00:17:09.760 immigration state than Texas. And for good reason. Immigrants have been great for Texas.

00:17:14.480 So when they open your border and just like wreck your state with immigration, 1.00

00:17:18.720 it took Texans a little longer to figure out this was going on because they're like, 1.00

00:17:21.760 no, we're good people. We're for, we're welcoming people. And the same is true with foreign conflicts.

00:17:26.400 Of course, we're on the side of the little guy against fascism or whatever. And of course,

00:17:30.480 and what you don't realize is that the immigration that they're doing now, the open borders immigration,

00:17:35.760 its only purpose is to destroy your country. That's the point. That's, that's not,

00:17:40.480 it's not a feature. That's what it's for. It's an act of punishment. It's an act of humiliation.

00:17:49.360 They're trying to destroy the country that you grew up in because they hate it. Now,

00:17:52.080 why do they hate it? That's a whole separate question. I'm not a theologian,

00:17:54.320 but it's clear that they do. And on the war question, that's like, no, sending,

00:17:58.240 you know, a hundred billion or $400 billion to a country only to see its entire male population 0.99

00:18:04.960 killed. That's not fighting for freedom. That's, that's killing people actually. And the fact

00:18:09.520 that you're getting rich in the process is really evil. So, you know, things are getting flaky around

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00:20:21.200 That's just a fact. But it's taken good people a long time to figure out what's going on or, you know,

00:20:43.920 social distance, take the vacs because you love your grandmother. What, my grandmother? I love my

00:20:48.320 grandmother. I would do anything for my grandmother. Good. Then obey. And so it took decent people like

00:20:53.360 a couple years to figure out this is not about my grandmother. Actually, you don't care about my

00:20:57.200 grandmother. That's why she died alone. Right? I mean, it's like so. So the realization after a

00:21:03.680 while is that, wow, evil is real. Like, evil exists in the world. It's real. It's really shocking to a

00:21:10.000 lot of people, very much including me. What I think is even more shocking and never acknowledged is the

00:21:17.680 existence of good in the world. Like, why is that natural? It's not. It's every bit as unnatural

00:21:26.320 as evil. And by natural, I mean like a product of evolution. Like Americans were trained in our 1.00

00:21:31.680 secular society for the past 80 years to understand everything through the lens of evolution or biology.

00:21:36.000 People do what's good for them. And what's good for them is passing on their genes to future

00:21:40.160 generations, like all animals. Like all animals are this way. Why do dogs do what they do?

00:21:44.480 Well, because they're interested in eating and, you know, having puppies. But every species is like

00:21:50.240 that and we were told that we're like that too. And so the idea that you would hurt someone for the

00:21:55.040 sake of hurting him or that you would do good for the sake of doing good, those do not fit into the

00:22:00.080 template that we were taught growing up at all. There's no possible advantage that you derive

00:22:06.080 from empathy, selflessness, altruism, deep compassion that doesn't help you pass on your genes. So why

00:22:13.760 are you doing that? You're doing that because good exists in the universe as an independent

00:22:18.400 force that acts on us as certainly as evil does. And it's beautiful. And it's all around us. And we

00:22:23.920 see it all around us. We see some people changing, their face becoming masks of hate and derangement,

00:22:32.640 saying things that don't make any sense at all, like at all, that moderation is extremism and

00:22:38.320 love is hate and war is peace and the vaccine is safe and effective or whatever they're saying.

00:22:44.000 None of it's true. And we're shocked by that. But at the same time, I bet if you take stock of your

00:22:49.280 life, of the life that actually matters, which is the people that God put around you, beginning with

00:22:53.840 your spouse, extending to your children, going out into concentric circles from there, to all of your

00:22:58.960 relatives, to your parents, to your college roommates, to your coworkers, to your neighbors,

00:23:02.240 the people in your actual sphere, the people who you talk to every day, the people you're responsible

00:23:06.880 for, the people whose duty you have to make happy and to care for, you will find that your

00:23:13.840 relationships with them are deeper and richer and more real and more honest than they've ever been.

00:23:20.240 I know that that's true in my life for all the friends and acquaintances I've lost,

00:23:23.360 which is pretty much all of them because I'm so extreme.

00:23:30.720 I'm sure every person in this room can relate. The relationships I have with the people who are

00:23:36.000 left or the friendships that I've gained since then are so much more rewarding and richer than

00:23:42.480 they ever were. I don't even have shallow conversations anymore and I love shallow conversations.

00:23:47.440 I'm from San Diego County. I can still talk about the weather. It is 74 with broken cloud cover. It's

00:23:54.800 incredible. And people are like, no, there's a spiritual war. I mean, people are so deep all of a

00:24:00.160 sudden. And it's just so wonderful because what it shows you is that for every person who's decayed

00:24:08.320 inside and been captured by dark forces, which is a lot of people, most of whom seem to live in

00:24:12.960 Washington. There are so many more people who become bigger and more open and more aware of what

00:24:20.400 connects all of us as human beings, all of us as children of God, who are so much more connected, so

00:24:26.240 much more selfless, so much more willing to lay down their lives for other people. I see that all the time

00:24:35.600 and it blows my mind. And why does it blow my mind? Because it's not natural. There's no imperative in

00:24:42.320 nature that you lay down your life for another person. In fact, it's the opposite. So it's not

00:24:49.120 natural. It's supernatural. It is the definition of supernatural. And it's just the greatest blessing

00:24:58.800 I've ever received, been privileged to see. I'm recognizing it all around me. Things are changing

00:25:03.280 really, really fast. And so to prove that, we snuck in a gas tonight. We were planning to have, I was just

00:25:10.160 brooding about this the other day. And I was thinking about this amazing experience I had this

00:25:14.480 summer with a woman called Nicole Shanahan. And all I knew about Nicole Shanahan, I'd like read on

00:25:24.560 Twitter based on New York Times stories. And I should have known.

00:25:30.960 As someone who's been the subject of many New York Times stories, it may be not fully accurate.

00:25:34.400 Okay. But the outline of the Nicole Shanahan story was one I thought I understood pretty well. So

00:25:39.760 she's from California, like me, from the Bay Area, like me originally, that she had been married to

00:25:45.280 Sergey Brin, who was one of the founders and biggest shareholders of Google, was truly a force for dark,

00:25:51.280 I think, in this world. He's the reason that we're not allowed to be treated as human beings,

00:25:55.200 and we're censored constantly. One of the reasons. And that, you know, she's an affluent lady from 1.00

00:26:00.640 California. And she looked kind of liberal to me. And I'm a judger on that subject. And I was like,

00:26:05.920 okay. And then she's running with Bobby Kennedy, who I love, but I didn't know. I didn't know anything

00:26:12.000 about it. So I get this call from someone who works for Nicole Shanahan. She would like to meet you.

00:26:16.800 And I said, okay. I mean, I'd meet anybody, you know, because you want to be open-minded and be

00:26:22.400 surprised by people. I've rarely been as surprised by anyone in my whole life as I was by Nicole Shanahan,

00:26:28.160 who turned out to be one of the deepest and smartest and totally real people I think I'd ever

00:26:33.600 met. And she was that way because, and all people you meet, everyone I've ever met who's like truly

00:26:42.000 deep has had pretty much the same story. They changed. They were forced to change. Something

00:26:48.000 happened in their life that required them to look inside and ask the basic questions like,

00:26:52.320 what do I believe? Why am I doing this? Should I be doing this? Is this right or wrong? What is right or wrong?

00:26:56.480 And we can float through life without asking those questions, but sometimes we're forced to answer

00:27:00.880 them. And she was forced to answer them. And she changed in such an extraordinary way that I wanted

00:27:07.760 to introduce her to those of you who haven't met her and aren't aware of her. And I'm going to begin

00:27:12.000 this by playing you a video that she made. And I was just talking to her. She's made a bunch of videos.

00:27:16.480 So bottom line, just to end a very long story on an abrupt and telling note, she is now campaigning for

00:27:22.320 Donald Trump for president. And, and I plan to ask her when she comes out, like, of all the things you

00:27:31.840 never thought you'd be doing, that had to be number one, right? That and being like, Queen of England,

00:27:37.440 or something. It's like, what? Ladies and gentlemen, Nicole Shanahan.

00:27:48.800 That is so good. What the hell was that?

00:27:55.440 Thank you. Thank you.

00:27:57.040 So I got to ask the question that I posed before you even arrived on if I had asked you at a dinner

00:28:02.960 party in San Francisco five years ago, do you think you'd be in, say, Sugar Land,

00:28:09.440 Texas campaigning for Donald Trump? Well, hi, Texas.

00:28:16.000 I'm so happy to be here. And I have a special gift from the Maha peoples to the Maga peoples. 0.97

00:28:21.440 Oh, can you read what that says? Make America healthy again. And check out the back.

00:28:29.120 Unity. Unity.

00:28:34.320 So what I think is so cool and interesting about your story and your honesty is that, you know,

00:28:40.640 at a time when people feel in their gut that something is not right with the leadership of

00:28:46.080 the country, you actually can say, you know, I've sort of been there. I've been around a lot of

00:28:51.440 the people who are making these decisions. So I'd just be really interested in taking a minute to hear

00:28:56.160 your story. What convinced you that you should change your mind on some things? Like, how did you get here?

00:29:04.880 Yeah, I'm from Oakland. I'm from Oakland, California.

00:29:07.760 Um, and I spent my life thinking that Democrats were good people and Republicans were bad people.

00:29:16.320 It's what was taught to me in the school system. Um, and you know, I went out to Crossfire as a

00:29:23.840 teenager. I was always interested in politics. I, and I went out.

00:29:27.920 Crossfire, the fabled CNN program hosted by a very handsome man in a bow tie.

00:29:32.160 Right. And I almost wore a bow tie tonight in celebration. Um, and you know, but I was out

00:29:38.640 there to see James Carville debate you and, and you know, I have to tell you the programming is so

00:29:46.800 strong on the left. Um, they, they earnestly believe what's being sold to them right now.

00:29:55.280 And I came to this, you know, I made that Trump derangement syndrome ad for me.

00:30:00.240 Yeah. I made it for me and I made it for all the people I know who are suffering from the lies

00:30:09.360 the media is telling them. Um, and it, it's an offering. It's an offering to this country to

00:30:15.920 unify, get over this BS and see what's actually happening here. And I came to this because,

00:30:23.200 you know, there's two things that change people, um, grief and God. And,

00:30:29.360 um, and, um, my grief was really, I always wanted to be a mother and more than anything,

00:30:42.000 I wanted to be a mother. I wanted to be a lawyer too, but got that out of the way. I was always

00:30:46.320 very smart. Um, but being a mother turned out to be a very convoluted experience. It turns out in

00:30:53.600 this country right now. And if you're a liberal woman, you're told go harvest your eggs and freeze 1.00

00:31:00.240 them. They tell you that now really early on. Um, and so I went through the process and during the

00:31:05.920 process, I realized a number of things, but I walked away with an understanding that science is also not

00:31:12.240 what they're telling us today, that there's this corporate world that in the case of IVF runs the IVF

00:31:20.640 clinics. And the science of IVF is actually not based in well-researched, well-documented foundational

00:31:30.000 science. Um, it works. It was discovered out of cancer research dollars. But if you actually look at the

00:31:37.280 investment in women's health, it's, it's not there and ovarian function, it's the least studied organ 0.96

00:31:43.440 in the body, arguably the most important. None of us would be here without it. Right?

00:31:51.600 Um, and, and so I started to fund the science and, and that's when I, I first came across transhumanism.

00:32:00.720 And transhumanism is very real. It's this idea that technology can replace human

00:32:07.200 function. Um, and so I put a hundred million dollars in to understand how to make and keep

00:32:14.720 healthy women healthy, but all of these transhumanists, all these transhumanists, 0.97

00:32:20.240 right? What a novel idea. Let's keep women healthy so that we can have healthy babies. 1.00

00:32:26.320 It's the most important thing in the world.

00:32:27.840 Um, but the transhumanists wanted to build artificial wombs with these grants. They wanted 0.99

00:32:38.240 to study IVG, um, which is creating gametes, eggs out of the human stem cells, just from your skin.

00:32:47.440 And there's a company, uh, called Conception that actually just had mice give birth to five pups,

00:32:55.200 um, with two male, uh, donors. And, and so, you know, I, it's very real transhumanists. I'm, I'm,

00:33:05.280 I'm in Silicon Valley. I'm in tech. I see all this stuff daily. Um, and it, it made me question, you know,

00:33:13.120 if we are at a time in human history where we have to pause to really think about where this is all going.

00:33:21.200 And I was slowly being labeled anti-science as a result of that. Um, and then the pandemic hit and,

00:33:30.880 and like many of us, the science didn't check out, didn't reconcile.

00:33:36.320 So I met Bobby Kennedy and he bravely left the Democratic Party, something that like

00:33:42.480 is really hard. It's really hard for a lot of us to do. In his case, it was literally part of his

00:33:53.600 genetics. Um, in my case, it was my upbringing and my programming, how I was raised. And so leaving the

00:34:02.560 Democratic Party to run as a third party seemed like a healthy thing to do. I wasn't becoming Republican,

00:34:09.760 right? Because God, God forbid, but, um, but I, um, that experience is when I realized how bad things

00:34:24.000 are in this country. Republicans have out-raised, in terms of fundraising, Democrats by about four to

00:34:32.160 one. But they don't spend any of that money taking out third party candidates. Democrats do. The amount of

00:34:40.880 money they spend on undermining the things that make democracy, democracy, they do it in ways that I could

00:34:48.880 have never imagined. And I will tell you, they hide it very well from the Democratic Party base. And I feel

00:34:56.160 that it is upon us to really tell the Democratic base what is going on.

00:35:08.720 They're not bad people, but they are being told lies. They're being told lies and they want to separate

00:35:17.680 us and it's not right. So you leave the Democratic Party, you go with Bobby Kennedy, you run independent, you

00:35:26.960 see the party that you spent your life in doing things you didn't know it was doing. At the same time, you're

00:35:31.680 being called anti-science for following the science, a familiar experience, I think, to most people here. But from

00:35:38.720 there, it's still a huge leap in the mind of every sort of college-educated, affluent person I've ever

00:35:47.040 met in California, which is a lot, to be making an ad like that.

00:35:54.640 I don't think it is such a jump. You know, we're not glorifying Trump, but what we are trying to do

00:36:04.160 right now is breakthrough to individuals that have been programmed to see Donald Trump as a criminal.

00:36:13.760 And so I wouldn't actually know how to make an ad glorifying Trump, but what I can make an honest

00:36:22.560 ad about is that we've been lied to about him. Well, I think that's absolutely right.

00:36:29.760 Yeah. Can I just ask you one more question about transhumanism?

00:36:36.160 Yeah, go. I wish we had like three hours to talk about this, because I sense it's the shape

00:36:43.680 of the future, and I sense it's maybe the scariest thing most people don't know enough about.

00:36:50.080 How common are the views that you described, the horrifying Frankenstein-like views you described

00:36:56.880 among democratic donors and elites?

00:37:01.360 It's pretty ubiquitous in the sense that many view it in the same light as vaccines. So there's

00:37:10.080 entire now platforms dedicated to basically mass printing vaccines, where you put a virus in and

00:37:17.360 they print it into any disease format. MRNA is the vehicle to deliver it. And they think that this is

00:37:27.520 a massive success. Vaccine injuries in this country have been vastly underreported. And I also believe

00:37:36.800 that behind it is this corporatist ideal on the world, that corporatism amongst the democratic elites

00:37:45.600 is the only way towards progress, and that is a dead lie. We have so much science we could be doing.

00:37:54.800 And transhumanism, if you want to hear my real take on it.

00:38:00.240 I do actually, because I feel like we're getting really close to something important, really important.

00:38:05.600 Okay. So I'm a lover of philosophy, and I read a very important thing that made me understand

00:38:15.280 transhuman transhumanism written by a philosopher, Peter Kingsley. And it actually had me crying in my

00:38:20.880 kitchen. And I was like, where is justice in this world? I was really sad. I was like, where is justice

00:38:26.560 in this world? And the ancient Greeks believed that justice is a goddess that you meet at the gates of

00:38:35.600 the underworld. And when you die, you go and you meet Lady Justice. It's much like purgatory and how

00:38:43.280 the Bible explains it. But I read it in the context of the ancient Greeks. And there, justice determines

00:38:51.760 whether you go to hell or heaven. And it's described in incredible terms. And Lady Justice

00:38:57.920 is not someone you can lie or hide your misdeeds from. And so I read this, and I cry because I'm like,

00:39:06.880 at least there is justice in the cosmos. Might not be here right now. We can fight for her as an archetype. 0.99

00:39:14.640 But the people who are afraid to die, they don't want to meet Lady Justice.

00:39:21.520 And that's what I think this transhumanism is all about. I think it is a deep fear of death. 1.00

00:39:29.040 Well, that is profound. And I think true. And you did see this during COVID. The people

00:39:37.840 I lived around during COVID had been forced to ask themselves, you know, no one wants to die.

00:39:43.840 I don't have no interest in dying at the moment. But people were forced to ask themselves like,

00:39:48.480 is that the worst thing? And the people who decided it wasn't the worst thing,

00:39:52.640 it's worse to live on your knees, right? Those people had a joyful time during COVID.

00:39:59.440 And the people who decided that dying is the worst possible thing were the ones enforcing mask

00:40:04.800 mandates and the vax. And you think that stems from the fact that they're afraid to die because

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00:41:51.680 So how did this, I agree with you 100%. Because you can run from eternal truths but they reside

00:42:12.720 within you like you know on an animal level that it's all real. All that stuff is real. We all know

00:42:18.160 that. So how does God factor into this? So you've described the suffering, crying in your kitchen

00:42:24.160 and reading philosophy. By the way, it's something I've never done and I'm impressed that you have.

00:42:28.080 I'm reading like cereal boxes but I'm impressed. How did that suffering bring you to an understanding of God?

00:42:37.360 You know, I think that we are all put on this planet to learn things and see things in a very unique

00:42:50.080 perspective. I was living a very comfortable life in Silicon Valley. I was an early AI developer. I was

00:42:55.600 a techno-optimist. And my daughter was diagnosed with autism when she was 18 months of age and I swear

00:43:03.360 to God I gave birth to a healthy baby girl. It was all I ever wanted was this healthy baby girl. And

00:43:09.040 she was healthy. I mean she smiled, she did all these things. It was, she was healthy. And then she got

00:43:16.720 a shot at seven months of age and by 10 months she was a different kid. And I had an enormous amount of

00:43:25.920 grief but then set in the confusion because I was not allowed to consider the fact that the shot

00:43:32.000 caused anything. Andy Wakefield is here, guys. He's right there.

00:43:40.640 Andy Wakefield, if you don't know him, was cancelled 25 years ago for pointing out that

00:43:45.840 the MMR causes gut inflammation in certain children which leads to symptoms like autism.

00:43:51.600 Andy Wakefield, if you don't know him. He's a big deal.

00:44:05.440 So my grief was also a very lonely period because no one around me could be someone I could trust with

00:44:16.560 even this notion that perhaps the shot caused an adverse reaction. This is a no-go for progressives.

00:44:25.200 You cannot talk about these things amongst these communities.

00:44:30.880 And the loneliness, plus COVID, because this happened around COVID too,

00:44:35.520 led me to a place of utter destruction. And I was alone in that process. And, you know,

00:44:48.400 we don't have to talk about my ex-husband. It's very therapeutic to be here. It's kind of like

00:44:53.360 therapy right now. It's, you know, coming out of that completely alone with a child that you feel

00:45:03.440 helpless to help, um, is a position that either leads you to total hermitage, um, or makes you a

00:45:17.440 warrior mom.

00:45:25.680 So, let me ask you one last question. And thank you for this.

00:45:30.320 Yes. Of course. God bless you. I agree with that. Um, how do you think this ends, this period,

00:45:38.960 this season? And are you hopeful? I'm hopeful because, because of you, you, you, and I'm hopeful

00:45:53.280 because I believe God is here. He's, he's here.

00:46:04.400 And I've, I believe that this country wants to heal right now more than anything. And I believe that

00:46:13.840 that we can unite. Um, I believe also that Donald Trump, minus some of his imperfections,

00:46:24.640 is a guy who wants to take us along with him. So.

00:46:30.720 Nicole Shanahan, ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

00:46:33.040 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all.

00:46:51.280 Amazing.

00:46:54.240 That really is the beauty of this moment is being shocked by how much you have in common with people

00:47:02.480 you didn't think you have anything in common with at all. It was awesome. It was awesome. And

00:47:07.520 it's happening all around us where people are deciding, you know, this is fake. Those categories

00:47:15.360 are fake. I'm going to tell the truth no matter what. And when you start people, seeing people doing

00:47:20.080 that, ah, it just, it gives you heart and hope. So, with that in mind, I want to introduce our second

00:47:26.480 guest of the evening, who is someone who I've known for several years, who I think is one of the most

00:47:31.040 impressive voices in the conversation, one of the smartest, one of the toughest, one of the most

00:47:36.320 interesting, one of the most original thinkers, a totally fearless person, who, if you live in Texas,

00:47:41.120 because he lives in this state, he's very local. But I also think he is national. You're familiar

00:47:46.800 with him, and that is Jesse Kelly, my friend, who joins us now.

00:48:04.960 Ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:09.280 Oh, I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for having me in your state.

00:48:12.560 Oh, I'm glad you get to have me. I have, ah, very embarrassing European-style slippers on, 1.00

00:48:19.360 and you're wearing ostrich skin boots, and I've never felt more emasculated than I do now,

00:48:28.800 but I'm going to push, I'm going to push through it. I'm going to push through it. All my cousins are

00:48:35.280 wearing those boots, and one of them just said to me, do you have any boots? Yeah, but I'm on the road,

00:48:41.840 so I'm wearing my little slippers. Uh, anyway, thank you so much. No, listen, I need to explain

00:48:49.120 before we get into it. I, I don't know how to dress myself. I can't, I, I know fashion makes

00:48:56.640 sense to some people. It does not make sense to me. They tell me I'm supposed to match. I walk out

00:49:01.440 in something that's matching, and my wife says, is that what you're wearing? Are you planning on

00:49:05.040 wearing that? And I'm like, they're both blue, right? So she decided to simplify things for me and buy

00:49:10.480 me one nice pair of boots. It's the only nice pair I own, and now whenever I'm coming to do something

00:49:15.040 like talk to Tucker Carlson and all these people, I put on my freaking boots. Well, I think you're 0.92

00:49:20.240 crushing it. I would never know you got dressed in the dark. Uh, you're a very sensible wife. 1.00

00:49:26.720 So where do you think we are right now? Since you, you've got a daily show, you follow the stuff

00:49:31.680 day in the day. Where are we right now in the presidential race, would you say? What's the truth

00:49:36.320 of it? Well, the truth of it is that they tried to murder Donald Trump twice because they think he's

00:49:42.160 winning. They wouldn't do that if they thought he was losing. Such a good point.

00:49:46.320 What we have in this country right now is it's something I call the system, but that's just, 1.00

00:49:55.760 like, I'm an idiot. That's the word I came up with for it. People call it the regime. You call 1.00

00:49:59.120 it whatever you want. But what we have is nations are built on their institutions, right? And your,

00:50:05.120 your immediate institution, your religious institutions, your government institutions,

00:50:09.200 these are the institutions that determine the direction of your country. And if your institutions

00:50:14.000 are good, your country will be good because the institutions produce other people. It's not 0.96

00:50:18.160 about one person. Right. Our institutions have been poisoned, poisoned for decades by communist filth,

00:50:25.600 and now they've taken over all the institutions. Well, I like your use of the phrase communist

00:50:33.520 filth. It, it doesn't leave much to the imagination. Well, that's what these people are. That's great. 0.61

00:50:40.000 That's what these people are. That they are vile. They are evil. They are demonic. And you know, 0.97

00:50:45.360 before I even continue with my institution thing, I just want to make sure you understand something.

00:50:50.960 You're the good guy. They are the bad guys. You are standing for things. Look, look behind you right

00:50:58.320 now and God is there. Family is there. We are fighting against demons and therefore we will fight

00:51:05.280 like we have to win because they cannot win. They cannot ever be allowed to win. Be clear about that.

00:51:17.200 So, so once the institutions got completely taken over by communist filth because we ran 0.98

00:51:22.800 God out of the country and then we allowed these people to educate our children. We very naively sent 0.98

00:51:28.240 children off to government schools for years thinking they were learning their ABCs when really

00:51:32.880 they were learning to hate America. America sucks. It's evil. You send your kid to kindergarten. 1.00

00:51:37.440 Now he comes home and talks about how we genocided the native Americans, but it's crazy. So we've managed

00:51:42.880 to poison all of these institutions. And now we have a criminal enterprise running the country. Our

00:51:49.200 government is a criminal enterprise. It is. And criminal enterprises do what to protect themselves.

00:51:55.360 Everyone has watched a movie or read a book about a criminal organization,

00:51:58.480 the mafia. What do they do when there's a threat? They kill. Corrupt systems kill. They tried to blow 0.69

00:52:03.760 Donald Trump's head off twice because he threatens that. And all of us threaten that. That's why they 0.87

00:52:10.160 sent the FBI after school board moms. That's why they ran all the people out of the military who didn't 0.99

00:52:15.280 want to get vaccinated. The system is afraid and they lash out and they kill when they're afraid.

00:52:20.960 What gives me hope is the fear. And not because I'm for fear. I'm totally opposed to fear. But fear

00:52:36.480 suggests they know that they're losing and there's not actually popular consent for this stuff. I mean,

00:52:42.240 I honestly don't think maybe, I'm deluding myself, that most Americans want what they're getting. Do you think?

00:52:48.400 I think it depends on how we classify most Americans. Are we talking about people who

00:52:54.160 simply reside here or new ones that they've imported into the country? Because that's an 1.00

00:52:58.480 important part. I wasn't trying to be glib. That's an important part. And it's an important reason why

00:53:04.000 the federal government has taken your money out of every single paycheck. And they have flown and

00:53:10.240 bust in foreigners into your country. They pay for their housing while you can't afford houses. 1.00

00:53:16.160 They pay for their eggs while you can't afford eggs. They take over your job at the factory for a

00:53:20.960 fraction for pennies on the dollar you were working for. And then they will run ads on television telling

00:53:25.760 you, these people are so much more hardworking than the dirtball Americans we just fired. 1.00

00:53:30.400 This is the greatest thing in the world. The propaganda would not be so heavy if they were

00:53:35.360 comfortable in their position of power. People think that these people are all powerful right now.

00:53:41.200 They're the furthest thing from it. Otherwise, they wouldn't still be lying. They would just be

00:53:44.960 showing up at your house in the middle of the night to shoot you in the face like they did in 0.97

00:53:48.320 the Soviet Union. They know they have to lie about every single thing. And they're not even good at it. 0.88

00:53:53.920 If you want to feel really great about something, we're up against a bunch of tubby losers without 0.99

00:53:58.240 girlfriends. Winner, it's not like we're facing warriors here. We're the warriors here. 0.98

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00:55:36.400 Newsom. I use the word Gavin Newsom as if he's a human being. That has not been verified.

00:55:44.720 Whatever the kind of, you know, AI bot who's the governor of California. She's standing there and

00:55:49.840 she said, you know, just because you have a gun legally, and I think I'm quoting, in the sanctity

00:55:54.720 of your own home, doesn't mean we can't come in when we want to, to check to see if you're using it the

00:56:00.400 way we want you to. So that, of course, is like a violation of the Bill of Rights. That's the

00:56:06.400 definition of tyranny. And I got to think they're so fixated on the gun question, not because they're

00:56:12.720 against violence. They created violence in all of our cities, including your cities here in Texas,

00:56:18.560 but because they don't trust the population. I mean, is there any other explanation?

00:56:23.440 No, they want to take your guns because they want to murder you, like every evil government

00:56:27.200 in the history of mankind. And people can say that that's crazy. Open up a freaking history book,

00:56:32.080 governments, they'll disarm you, and then they'll murder you. They'll disarm you, 1.00

00:56:35.600 and then they'll murder you. And if you think that these- Wait a second, that's not on Wikipedia.

00:56:42.080 That is not on Wikipedia. That's not what I read at all. I thought they were disarming you because

00:56:46.480 you might hurt yourself. Yeah. And you know, this is where you can think,

00:56:52.560 if you're speaking to a normal person, like somebody who's not politically involved,

00:56:57.200 like kids, school, watch the game on Sunday, and you start talking like this,

00:57:02.320 they might look at you crazy or think that you're a wingnut because when they look at Kamala Harris 0.97

00:57:07.040 or Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland with his weird voice, why does he talk like that?

00:57:12.640 And they think to themselves, well, he doesn't look like Stalin. He doesn't look like Mao. He doesn't-

00:57:17.520 I'm here to tell you something right now. These people are so sick that kids will be dead in a

00:57:23.520 school, and without an ounce of shame, they will stand on the bodies of dead children before the 0.99

00:57:28.800 shooter is even dead to take your guns. And it's not because they've shed a single tear for a dead

00:57:34.480 child in this country. It's because the dirty demons who want to hurt you lay awake at night,

00:57:40.720 dreaming about it, and they are so mad that they can't, because we are the most armed freaking 0.98

00:57:46.560 people on the planet. We have the guns, we have the ammo, and that's why the matter.

00:57:53.440 I do think- I think you're onto something that

00:57:57.360 they kind of figured out. I mean, they're not stupid, I will say that, and they kind of figured 0.94

00:58:02.080 out that you can't give the game away really, you know, in an obvious way. You can't just show up in 0.88

00:58:07.280 some Latin American military uniform and say, it's a junta, now obey. So you trot out this kind of

00:58:13.280 drooling figure like Joe Biden to tell you, you know, it's just grandpa. You know, there's a lot

00:58:18.400 of jello-eating and misremembering, but it's not dangerous. And that worked for a while. And then

00:58:24.880 he disappeared, which raises the obvious- like, where is he? Is he still president?

00:58:28.720 Well, he never was president. I mean, we all know that, and he never was.

00:58:33.440 The country's run by people like Susan Rice. It's run by all these vile little commies behind the 1.00

00:58:42.320 scenes who they grew up worshiping Mao. We've heard Lisa Monaco, all the people- all the Obama roster.

00:58:51.200 Joe Biden was never there. He would never made a single decision. He was never allowed to make a

00:58:56.320 single decision. His gift was the presidency. He gets a presidential library. Dr. Jill can make

00:59:02.240 half a million a speech on the lecture circuit once they cart poor Joe off to the nursing home.

00:59:06.960 And that's the only reason he was ever there at all. But, and you're right about when they talk

00:59:11.680 about guns, and that's why they trot out poor Joe and his favorite line is, well, while I was out

00:59:16.400 hunting and you don't need a 30 round magazine to kill deer. Well, the second amendment wasn't to kill

00:59:21.360 deer. It was to kill tyrants. It wasn't even to kill robbers. It was to kill tyrants. Well, then that, 0.99

00:59:27.280 I mean, you're sort of getting it. And I didn't even want to bring this up because I,

00:59:32.240 I find it so chilling, bone chilling, actually. But the most interesting fact from the debate was

00:59:38.720 Kamala Harris admitting she has a gun. And I'm as for second amendment rights as anybody. I mean,

00:59:44.560 I'm, you know, more than anyone I know, actually, maybe other than you. But I don't think Kamala Harris

00:59:49.040 should have a gun. I mean, that's, why does Kamala Harris have a gun? Where did she get the gun? 1.00

00:59:54.720 What kind of gun is it? What's the point of having the gun? And why is no one in the media asked?

00:59:58.960 Do you know the answers to any of those questions? Could you even imagine going to the range with that

01:00:04.240 moron and putting a loaded gun in her hand? You know, she'd be the one that turns around from the 1.00

01:00:09.920 firing line. It's jam. You know, you can see her doing it already off the bat. You know that she'd be

01:00:16.000 that one. She'd be the one. But was it a straw purchase? I mean, who gave Kamala Harris a gun? 0.93

01:00:22.160 Well, look, these, these commies are always trying, you see it with every Democrat who talks today,

01:00:27.280 they're always trying to straddle this line, which is really Kamala Harris's specialty, 1.00

01:00:31.280 given her beginning. But you do, she's, what? What? What?

01:00:38.080 So, I'm so pure I didn't get your joke.

01:00:49.440 So, there, there, when you're an American Democrat now, this doesn't apply to older Democrats at all,

01:00:55.040 like, oh, this is not the 1960s. If you're a Democrat today, a Democrat politician, you're a

01:01:00.160 communist. And you're trying to walk, you're constantly trying to straddle this line where

01:01:04.960 you're trying not to freak out the older, you know, older Union Democrat guy, maybe he's a

01:01:11.360 firefighter forever, fought for this country, doesn't really like Republicans, but loves America. Right

01:01:16.000 Fourth of July, he's out there, hand over his heart, land of the free, he loves that. You still need him

01:01:21.680 to vote for you. But at the same time, you understand you've got a bunch of trash. And that's your base, 1.00

01:01:29.280 that's your voting base. That's the Black Lives Matter, Planned Parenthood, the LGBTQ rainbow,

01:01:35.040 demon mob, all you pick, pick your one. You have to let those people know, you are going to burn 0.99

01:01:41.760 down America the way you, the way they want to. Hey, vote for me, vote for Kamala. I'm going to burn

01:01:47.120 down America. But, but, but, but I can't really say it like that. So you have to try to give a little 0.79

01:01:51.200 pat on the head to the 65 year old Democrat who still loves the country. Yeah, I'm going to burn down 0.85

01:01:56.320 America. But hey, I own a gun. Don't worry, not yours. And that's, every time they talk, 0.91

01:02:01.520 now that I said it, you'll see it. Every time they talk, they're constantly walking this tightrope,

01:02:06.640 trying to signal to their base, yeah, I hate this place like you do. Screw this country. 0.71

01:02:11.520 At the same time, don't freak out ma and pa Democrat. That's all they're used to doing.

01:02:16.400 If I take it too far, then, then, then, then they'll catch on to the game that the Democrat

01:02:21.920 party's changed completely. So I'm, I'm sitting listening to this and I'm, and literally my

01:02:26.080 first thought was, if Texas ever goes blue, you're going to jail, man. You're on the list.

01:02:31.120 Um, yeah, well, he's definitely going to jail, um, if Texas goes blue. Um, and it would be a shame.

01:02:41.360 It would be one of the great shames in American history because this is above all,

01:02:44.960 in addition to being prosperous and beautiful, it's a really nice state. It's just nice. And when you,

01:02:49.840 when you come here, you really notice it. If you come from other places, just the kindness that

01:02:56.320 Texans show each other is amazing to watch. And you'd hate that to be lost. And it would be lost,

01:03:02.800 I think, as it has been in the state that I grew up in, which is a state of people who are really

01:03:07.200 suspicious of each other and mad at each other. And I wouldn't want that for you at all. I mean it.

01:03:11.920 So do you think that this state is moving toward control of the Democratic party?

01:03:17.520 It will, it will be up to the people of the state. And I know that sounds like the most

01:03:22.080 cliche answer in the world, but I know, I know, I know that was a walking cliche.

01:03:27.440 Allow me to explain, let me explain what we have right now. We already talked about the people who

01:03:32.000 run things, but what we have on the other side is what I like to call the low T GOP, 1.00

01:03:38.400 the Republicans, they're useless. They don't stand up for you ever. They always pretend like they're going 0.99

01:03:43.280 to and then they don't. Well, we can't, we got to wait to the next election. And well, you're clapping,

01:03:49.120 but you're not going to like this next part. You know whose fault that is? Our fault. It's our fault.

01:03:54.320 And I point fingers at myself too. You mentioned the state of Texas here. This state should already,

01:04:00.480 already right now, they should already be reorienting the state police, Texas Rangers,

01:04:05.760 to stand as a bulwark between Texans and the federal government that is evil. They already should be doing that.

01:04:18.960 But instead we have John freaking Cornyn as a senator.

01:04:26.080 And, and, and this is what I mean.

01:04:29.360 We need, and this is, and the sad part is this isn't going to be applicable to any one of the

01:04:33.840 thousands of people who showed up to watch Tucker Carlson tonight. But we have a primary voter

01:04:39.840 problem because the reddest states, they are sending the most putrid losers to Washington, 0.98

01:04:46.320 D.C. John Thune, John Cornyn, Mitch McConnell, uh, what is that? James Lankford, Naked Ken Doll 0.98

01:04:53.040 Lankford out of Oklahoma. These people are from our reddest states. Wait, what did you call them? 1.00

01:04:57.920 Uh, Naked Ken Doll. Have you ever seen a Naked Ken Doll? There's no, there's no nothing there.

01:05:03.840 No, I'm not bragging. I've never taken off Ken's pants, but it's just.

01:05:08.640 Well, believe me, that's what you're going to find if you ever disobey James Lankford.

01:05:12.880 But, but the point is. I'm stealing that. The point is we do, we have this red state

01:05:18.400 and because it is red, look, I moved here on purpose. My wife and I, we had two kids. I moved

01:05:22.800 here without a job because I love Texas people so much because that's what we do.

01:05:27.040 But, but that niceness can also burn us as well because you move to a safe place. I'm in a

01:05:35.600 neighborhood without crime. I'm in a state that's Republican. I have this, I have that. And you

01:05:40.480 think to yourself, we're fine. We're not fine. The demons come for what is good. What is good. It's

01:05:47.280 not an accident. If you've ever sat at home and you watched any of this child tranny stuff or anything 1.00

01:05:52.160 like that before. And if you ever said something to yourself, like why the kids, why can't they just

01:05:56.800 leave the kids alone? People love saying that on the right. I don't understand why they can't leave

01:06:00.800 the kids alone. The kids are where they went first because the kids are the most good, because the

01:06:05.920 kids are the most innocent. They're not going to come after me. I'm a horrible human being. The kids

01:06:11.120 are the most innocent. And so that's why they went after them. Whatever is good, whatever is right,

01:06:17.200 that's what the devil goes after first. And if you think, if you think your state of Texas is safe,

01:06:23.440 it's the most unsafe because these people look at you and your family and your values and your guns,

01:06:29.680 and it's a reminder of everything they're not. And it's a reminder of everything that can stop them.

01:06:35.280 So we're not safe and we have to start getting more involved locally and in primaries. It is a disgrace

01:06:42.080 that John Cornyn is a senator from this state. That should never happen again. Disgrace.

01:06:47.840 Wow. That is a really deep analysis. It's the purity. It's the desire to defile purity

01:06:57.840 that drives them. Anything that is beautiful, anything that is unsullied, anything that is sincere,

01:07:03.840 they hate. And I have to say, it's true. You really notice it. And you do it with art and

01:07:08.720 architects. That's why they destroy nature. You know, it's why they put up wind farms on the top of

01:07:13.760 mountains, you know. But Texas does seem, I'm just being totally honest, the single most left-wing,

01:07:21.760 truly left-wing member of Congress I've ever met personally is a Republican from this area who has

01:07:28.400 no interest in the United States whatsoever and does not even pretend. I'm not going to name names.

01:07:34.080 Oh, I think that's right. Yeah, it's Dan Crenshaw, the most liberal,

01:07:39.040 person I've ever met in the Congress. I'm just being serious. I don't, I mean, structurally,

01:07:45.760 how does that happen? Well, it happens because

01:07:49.680 we don't go beyond as, well, this is not going to apply to the people in the room because you're

01:07:54.880 the hyper-informed. You don't understand how much more informed you are than your neighbor that you

01:08:00.160 didn't invite tonight. I really mean that. Your brother, your mom. Yes, they're Republican.

01:08:04.800 They're voting Republican. They probably have a MAGA hat on. Go Trump! Ask them. Ask them when the last

01:08:10.080 time they voted in a school board election was. Ask them if they even voted in a primary election.

01:08:16.320 We don't do it because we're in a safe, comfortable place. And so, and this happens

01:08:21.280 everywhere. It happens in Wyoming. It's like the reddest state in the union. It's not unique to Texas.

01:08:25.600 These, if you're a scumbag communist and you want to get elected in a place like Wyoming, 0.99

01:08:30.800 you can't run as a Democrat. You can't run as a hard lefty. You throw on some cowboy boots and you buy a 0.99

01:08:36.720 shotgun and go out there and take a picture shooting at some pheasants and you learn how to speak the lingo

01:08:41.920 a little bit. Watch a little bit of Tucker Carlson. Now you know what to say, how to deceive exactly.

01:08:47.440 And you find yourself in a position of power kneecapping people on the right time after time

01:08:53.920 after time. Our controlled opposition problem is so bad. And that's why we always feel like we're

01:08:59.600 playing tug of war with Whoopi Goldberg. It just doesn't feel like you can win.

01:09:03.120 It's so true. Wyoming is the most Republican state in the United States. With the exception of Teton

01:09:10.880 County, every county is Republican. And they elected Liz Cheney, who just endorsed Kamala Harris time

01:09:18.720 and time again. I noticed something today that I wanted to ask you about. So there's this new list

01:09:25.680 that Democrats are bragging about of Republican national security officials

01:09:33.680 that have endorsed Kamala Harris. And on the list, it's all Bush Cheney people. It's all the

01:09:38.720 architects of the Iraq war. But on the list is the chairman of the 9-11 commission who's responsible

01:09:47.360 for the 9-11 report and who's now at the University of Virginia as a professor. But really a guy who I

01:09:54.320 think probably should answer some questions. And you wonder how much of the resistance to Trump,

01:10:00.960 who's not like a, he's a pretty moderate guy actually, but in Washington he's hated more than

01:10:05.840 anyone's ever been hated. And I always have wondered how much of that hatred stems from fear that he

01:10:11.840 might declassify documents that implicate the crimes of the most corrupt city in the hemisphere,

01:10:19.600 which is DC. Do you think that's a driving motivating force? I actually think you nailed it

01:10:26.720 completely. I think it ties directly to foreign policy, actually Trump's foreign policy. Because

01:10:32.720 for the longest time, Democrats and Republicans for most of my life have really had pretty much the same

01:10:38.480 foreign policy. It's really a worship of the state. It's what it's always been. Ours has looked

01:10:43.840 different than theirs. But you know, we always trusted the FBI. I wanted to work for the FBI

01:10:48.560 when I was a kid. Oh my gosh, the FBI. I didn't know it was the Stasi, or at least it was turning 0.71

01:10:53.120 that way. I had no idea. We had no idea about these things. And Trump comes in, and like you mentioned,

01:10:59.680 he's not some hardcore righty. He's a fairly moderate guy when you look at his views. But he has a very

01:11:05.600 different view on foreign policy. And so when you think about foreign policy, think about, look,

01:11:10.800 we can just make it about Ukraine. It doesn't really matter what you think about that. The amount of 0.58

01:11:15.200 money, taxpayer money, it goes from the taxpayer, it goes into the government. The government writes

01:11:22.720 gigantic checks of your money to the defense contractors. The defense contractors get paid

01:11:28.640 hugely to continue that war without end. The defense contractors also take that very same money and

01:11:35.280 hand it right back to the politician who stole it from you. And now all this stuff seems to be working

01:11:39.840 in a great cycle. And now when you tie in the finance giants, who they've already promised

01:11:45.200 big, fat taxpayer-funded checks to rebuild, of course, when the whole thing's done, what you

01:11:50.480 finally wake up and figure out is the evil demons who run the country look at all of us like just one

01:11:56.240 big tax farm so they can stay in power, so they can have their state dinners, so all this stuff can

01:12:02.320 work out. And that Bush-Cheney wing, they were the freaking worst about all that stuff. They were awful

01:12:08.320 about all that. And Trump challenging that, I will always believe Trump challenging that

01:12:15.840 is the reason they're trying to murder him so bad because that is the most money. You follow the

01:12:20.080 money, there's your answer. I think you've got to be right. By the way, you served in the Marine

01:12:24.880 Corps during that period. You did the patriotic thing. Now they hate you. But it's just, it doesn't

01:12:32.160 make any sense otherwise because here you have Dick Cheney and Philip Zelikow, the guy who ran the 9-11

01:12:39.600 commission, endorsing the administration that armed the Taliban. So like that doesn't make any sense.

01:12:47.680 If you were the leader of the war on terror, as Cheney was, or Philip Zelikow was, or Bob Zelik was,

01:12:54.240 you hate the Taliban. That's what you told us. How could you possibly endorse the Biden-Harris

01:13:00.960 administration, which just armed the Taliban. It's now the best armed army in the region,

01:13:07.760 thanks to the Biden-Harris administration, which you're now for. So it actually wasn't about fighting

01:13:14.320 a global war on terror, obviously. It's about keeping your crimes hidden, and you're worried that if Trump

01:13:21.200 gets elected, he might just be crazy enough to declassify the documents that show what you've

01:13:26.880 been doing for the last 25 years. I don't see any other explanation.

01:13:37.040 I agree with you standing up and cheering. That is right.

01:13:41.360 Look, what we're missing, and this happens to so many countries. Sorry, Tucker, I'm going to

01:13:46.160 filibuster for a second. Take your time.

01:13:47.760 Dude, go crazy. So what's happening in this country right now is what's happened to almost

01:13:54.640 every single country in the history of the world, where you get far enough away from your founding,

01:14:00.160 the people who lead the country will lose a sense of duty to the country, and it just becomes about

01:14:07.040 them. Look, I could point to America's history, the Battle of Cheney. Any historians here? The

01:14:12.720 Second Punic War, Hannibal, you've heard of him. He fights the Romans. He ends up wiping out a Roman army.

01:14:17.600 A fascinating story about the Roman army Hannibal wipes out in Italy is he takes out a huge chunk of

01:14:24.480 the Roman Senate. Wait a minute. Senators on the battlefield dying beside the peasants? Yes, that's

01:14:32.320 how nations are supposed to operate, because the elite don't live on private jets and in stake houses.

01:14:38.080 If there was a war to be fought, you pick up your sword and you go die right next to the construction

01:14:43.600 worker. That's how it's supposed to work. But if you look at that towards the end of Rome and where we

01:14:51.440 are now, our leaders never go die and their kids never go die. You mentioned Republicans.

01:14:57.360 Second, you were in the Marine Corps enlisted during the war on terror. Was Liz Cheney with you?

01:15:01.760 You know, I not only didn't see Liz Cheney with me, I didn't happen to see Mitt Romney or any one of

01:15:07.040 his 57 kids. And Mitt Romney to this day wants to invade every single place on the planet. And again,

01:15:13.520 I'm fine with differences on foreign policy, but I know what it's like to sit there and watch some

01:15:19.840 kid hug his dad on the tarmac and say, Daddy, don't go. Daddy, don't go. And to know that these

01:15:25.520 scumbags in DC constantly send our guys, our men and women to go do this without an ounce of duty 1.00

01:15:33.680 to send themselves or their kids along makes me freaking sick. And it's, it's, it's because 0.99

01:15:40.000 it's because they don't have a sense of duty. We have gotten so far from where we are. Our leaders

01:15:54.320 now, they're just a bunch of bank robbers looting the treasury instead of people who see themselves

01:16:00.080 as what they should see themselves are as the knights protecting Western civilization. That's why

01:16:06.320 they've sent the FBI after so many American citizens. They've took slowly turned their guns

01:16:11.360 inward because now when these people wake up in the morning and when they go to sleep at night,

01:16:16.160 they think the enemy is you. They don't stress about China. They don't stress about Russia.

01:16:20.720 They don't stress about terror. They certainly don't stress about the newest rapist dirt ball that they 0.99

01:16:25.280 hauled into this country across the border. They don't care about your cat that got eaten in Ohio. 0.94

01:16:30.080 They don't care about any of that stuff. They wake up and they think about you,

01:16:34.800 you with your rights and you want your freedom of speech and you probably love guns too. And

01:16:39.600 you're probably going to hold them to account if they continue to take a steaming dump on the country.

01:16:44.400 That's why they flooded this country with illegals. And that's why they sent the FBI after school board 1.00

01:16:49.760 mobs. So, so just, just to be clear, like for the record, because I don't think I was joking before,

01:16:59.280 I don't think Wikipedia is the final word on history. I just don't think that.

01:17:03.520 Your cat really did get eaten in Ohio, didn't he? Like that is real, isn't it?

01:17:08.880 Well, Tucker, look, I'm an American and I don't own a cat. All right. I own a dog.

01:17:13.440 What? What? No, no, I would, I would never own a cat. You see, if you're wondering why I'm so,

01:17:23.360 such a messed up human being, I have a lot of unrecognized child trauma that involved

01:17:28.240 my cat getting run over by a school bus in front of me. It's just right there in front of me. And

01:17:32.160 after that, my dad wasn't that nice about it. And I decided I didn't want any more cats anymore.

01:17:36.480 Fair, fair. But getting run over by a school bus is qualitatively different than being eaten by an

01:17:42.080 illegal alien. I do think that. Both traumatic, one more traumatic than the other. 1.00

01:17:46.720 I guess it all depends on which part he's eaten.

01:17:48.640 Yeah. Good point. So we began the evening. I did it on purpose because I feel so overwhelmed

01:17:55.520 with sadness by everything that's happening to the country that we love and were born in and country,

01:18:01.680 our ancestors built over many years with great effort and determination and foresight,

01:18:07.840 planting trees they would never see grow, you know, doing things that they would never benefit

01:18:13.600 from. And they knew they would never benefit from them, but they knew that their grandchildren would,

01:18:16.880 and they did them. And that's the most virtuous kind of behavior in my opinion. So it's so sad to

01:18:23.280 watch all this. And so I wanted to start on a note of hope, which I think is real, actually. Do you feel

01:18:29.120 any hope? And if so, why? Oh, we're going to win. We're going to win.

01:18:42.320 I know that you're afraid. I get afraid. I know you're sad. I'm sad. I love this place, right? I would

01:18:52.880 die for it. It hurts watching these people tear it up. I know it hurts, but I'm here to tell you 0.56

01:19:00.480 something. They're more afraid than you are. They're afraid we're going to wake up. They're

01:19:07.920 afraid we're going to get involved. They're afraid we're going to go to their little fiefdoms of power

01:19:13.280 at the local library or Congress or the school board, wherever it is, and take their power away

01:19:18.240 from them. They're afraid of you speaking the way you want to speak on social media. They're afraid

01:19:23.120 of the fact that you're guns. The demons are more afraid of you than you are of them. The darkness

01:19:30.320 is afraid of the light. The light does not fear the darkness. And they should be afraid. I want to make

01:19:41.840 sure I'm very crystal clear about that. And you can clip it all day long. You commie scumbags, 0.99

01:19:46.480 come knock on my freaking door. They should be afraid because as I mentioned in the beginning, 1.00

01:19:56.880 they are wrong. They are evil. What they want is awful for this country. What you want is wonderful

01:20:03.680 and good. We want a country surrounded by family and community, a country led by God and decent people.

01:20:12.240 We want to be led by people who are better than what we have now. And if we stand up and I see

01:20:18.960 it happening everywhere, we can have that. It is time to stop being afraid like you are and like I am.

01:20:26.000 And it is time to start making them afraid. Good guys don't get afraid. They need to be ones

01:20:31.760 that were afraid of us. And we can do that. There's a new sheriff in town, ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Kelly.

01:20:39.360 Thank you.

01:20:39.760 The big tech companies censor our content. I hate to tell you that it's still going on in 2024,

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The Tucker Carlson Show - September 19, 2024

Jesse Kelly & Nicole Shanahan： Transhumanism, Kamala’s Plan to Take Your Guns, and How to Save Texas

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