The Tucker Carlson Show - Jimmy Dore： Charlie Kirk’s Murder, Thomas Massie & Finding God Through the Propaganda Hellscape

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00:00:30.000 jimmy door thank you for doing this uh my pleasure thanks for having me so it seemed to me

00:00:39.200 so much is happening it's hard to get perspective on any of it but it does feel like thomas massey's

00:00:45.220 loss in the primary in kentucky two weeks ago was like a kind of pivot point in american politics

00:00:51.600 what was your response to it well my response to it was how dare we you know tell preach democracy

00:00:58.060 around the world and tell people that the people in China are oppressed when we obviously don't

00:01:03.340 have democracy here, right? This is a complete, we just gave up. And so now it's the oligarchs,

00:01:13.120 as I was telling you before, you know, it's just proof that we don't live in a democracy. You know,

00:01:18.260 they did that Princeton study in 2015 about how it doesn't, the 90% of people, their wishes never

00:01:25.180 are expressed in legislation and it's only the top 10 percent of the wealthy people and there's

00:01:30.200 a direct correlation if 50 percent of the wealthy people want something 50 percent of the time it

00:01:34.740 happens you know and so but the bottom doesn't matter your vote that literally doesn't matter

00:01:40.120 and we're living in that and so you know i was telling you before in in in china the government

00:01:46.400 sits above capital yes and so the economy works for the people but in the united states capital

00:01:52.740 is above the government and so the economy doesn't work for the people it works for a handful of

00:01:58.620 international globalist billionaires which is why we have homelessness everywhere we have the biggest

00:02:03.280 prison population in the world and uh you know we still get go bankrupt just to get educated you get

00:02:09.280 bankrupt when you get sick and like i i say is that we're like we're and we live in a surveillance

00:02:14.160 state and so we we're like china except we have more street crime and slower trains and we get

00:02:20.960 lectured constantly in the most self-righteous way by the worst people. It's a hard jump for

00:02:28.880 your average right winger, me, for example, to accept the fact that corporations are even more

00:02:37.560 malicious than government. Way more. You know, I think that's, I'm coming around to that just

00:02:43.660 because the evidence is overwhelming, but I do think there's like a training that takes place

00:02:47.900 where you just have someone point to Soviet Poland

00:02:50.960 and you're like, that's the option to what we have.

00:02:53.540 And you're like, I don't want that.

00:02:54.760 I don't like potatoes.

00:02:55.940 You know what I mean?

00:02:56.600 Bad architecture, grim weather.

00:02:59.460 But I kind of believe that.

00:03:03.560 You believe that that's the option?

00:03:05.600 That that was the option.

00:03:06.320 So either you have like Google runs everything

00:03:08.960 and they do it in Technicolor

00:03:12.680 and it's like free and it's great.

00:03:15.000 Or the state runs everything and it's,

00:03:17.900 soviet poland and so like i do think the average right winger or again i'll say for my speak for

00:03:24.540 myself it's like hard to accept that you want to live in a system where billionaires don't control

00:03:31.100 everything like that's not good that's not good let's look look around that's you're right this

00:03:35.760 is the system we're living in and you know corporations there's no long-term planning

00:03:39.700 right at least in china they have long-term planning right which is why they get to have

00:03:43.060 flying cars and great infrastructure and beautiful bridges that make their own waterfalls and own

00:03:49.700 rainbows, stuff like that. It's just amazing. And in here, because they don't, and corporations

00:03:55.400 only care about quarterly profits. So they don't care if the whole company crashes as long as they

00:04:01.280 can show a profit in the quarter. I think that's right. And that's the problem. There's no long-term

00:04:05.860 planning in America, and that's why. And, you know, I also have a firm belief that, like in

00:04:11.920 California they spent 24 billion dollars to try to fix homelessness and none of it it just got worse

00:04:17.460 and you know I think you've talked about this that it seems planned because it probably is that they

00:04:23.340 want us uh to live in this kind of hellscape uh so we beg for authoritarian solutions to these

00:04:30.040 problems and that's what they're doing right so you know it all started with 9-11 they had the

00:04:34.620 Patriot Act already written before 9-11 right so they they and and and and as Edward Snowden

00:04:40.960 revealed that you know they're collecting uh every text every phone call every email you make

00:04:46.180 anyway so we live in our city and then it's just getting more flock cameras it's like what you said

00:04:50.920 to kevin o'leary it's like the oh they're there to help fight crime really crime rates going down

00:04:55.440 are they no no so uh yeah this is what happens and thomas massey i mean a guy who won almost

00:05:05.240 unanimously and then he his positions didn't change uh but then all of a sudden uh he loses

00:05:11.380 and loses big right he lost by 10 points so uh and it just and it was all propaganda and lies

00:05:19.160 and who knows if they also fiddled with the vote you know i why would you put that past them why

00:05:24.760 of course they would the people who slaughter people for profit which is what been the last

00:05:29.400 25 years uh since 9-11 just slaughtering people for profit uh they wouldn't rig an election

00:05:35.300 of course they would of course yeah and uh if it's important enough to murder people it's

00:05:40.320 important enough to take over electronic voting machines of course and by the way that's the one

00:05:45.460 thing you're not allowed to say you're not well you know so that's always a always a tip before

00:05:49.800 2020 the democrats used to scream about oh i remember about i have video after video i show

00:05:54.840 on my show about the Democrats

00:05:56.900 saying how easily hacked

00:05:58.480 these electronic voting machines are.

00:06:00.160 And then there was a day

00:06:00.900 you can't say it anymore, right?

00:06:02.400 Just like you used to be able

00:06:03.940 to criticize big pharma

00:06:05.120 and then there was a day

00:06:06.180 you can't do it anymore, right?

00:06:07.880 Remember?

00:06:08.240 And so, yeah, of course

00:06:10.820 those people would rig elections.

00:06:13.500 I mean, the people who did Building 7

00:06:16.220 wouldn't rig an election.

00:06:18.340 No, it's just, you're totally,

00:06:20.040 people risk their lives

00:06:21.540 to rob liquor stores.

00:06:22.680 So, right, a lot's at stake.

00:06:23.960 but i i kind of wonder like why do we have electronic voting machines that are not faster

00:06:29.340 you don't get the vote faster right it takes forever it takes forever so what is the purpose

00:06:35.660 what's the utility why why do we still have them why not just i don't know give a thumbprint like

00:06:39.580 they do in yeah civilized countries like malawi it's easier to control why i mean that's the

00:06:44.440 obvious right the easiest answer right it's easier to control the vote i anyway it's we don't again

00:06:52.800 we don't live in a democracy.

00:06:54.200 And then there's always the people who will say,

00:06:55.560 well, Jimmy, we don't live in a democracy.

00:06:56.620 We live in a constitutional republic, right?

00:06:58.720 The people will say that, which is true.

00:07:00.460 Of course.

00:07:01.560 But that is a form of democracy.

00:07:03.720 So I always have to tell people

00:07:04.780 that is a form of democracy.

00:07:06.000 You don't have direct democracy

00:07:07.460 because majority rules is a bad thing.

00:07:11.120 You have to have a constitution

00:07:12.280 which protects the right of the minority

00:07:14.000 in case when you have a tyranny of the majority,

00:07:18.060 which is what we had during COVID.

00:07:19.740 Yeah.

00:07:20.960 Good point.

00:07:22.800 But in both a direct democracy and a constitutional republic, the core idea is the same, which is the people rule.

00:07:32.240 It's their country.

00:07:33.160 It belongs to them.

00:07:34.540 Yeah.

00:07:35.760 And if you believe that, I've got a vaccine.

00:07:37.940 I'd like to sell you.

00:07:41.880 So, I guess my—

00:07:43.960 I mean, right now we're having a governor's race in California. 0.64

00:07:47.460 And so they have—it's called a jungle primary.

00:07:50.080 Do you know what that is, right? 0.71

00:07:51.040 Sort of?

00:07:51.500 Tell me.

00:07:51.780 So, so instead of Democrats and Republicans having their own primary, they have one big primary. Everybody's in it, including independents, including no party preference people. And the top two vote getters then face off in. And so that's to make sure that it's just Democrats. Right. So that's, that's what that is. Because we have one party rule in California. And if you think that's good, go to California and see how it's working out.

00:08:16.260 And so they have a jungle primary. And so someone Democrats are so unpopular now, even in California, that they were afraid that a Republican or two Republicans might because the Democrats might split the vote and then two Republicans sneak in.

00:08:32.460 And they asked Governor Newsom and they said, what if that happens? And he said, well, we have a plan. We have a break the glass plan, meaning, you know, an emergency break the glass.

00:08:43.500 So he's like, he's literally saying, don't worry, we're not going to allow democracy to work.

00:08:47.500 We're not going to, if the vote doesn't go the way we want, we have a break the glass moment and we're going to fix that.

00:08:52.120 He said that out loud?

00:08:53.000 He said that out loud.

00:08:54.620 And, you know, just like when, but he pays no price for this.

00:08:58.160 Just like when he said, so in California, like I said, they spent $24 billion to fix homelessness.

00:09:06.360 Homelessness got worse.

00:09:08.060 And so unanimously, the legislature passed a bill saying,

00:09:11.780 hey, let's have transparency on how that money was spent.

00:09:16.820 Passed unanimously.

00:09:18.720 Gavin Newsom vetoed it.

00:09:21.100 And he paid no political price for that.

00:09:23.460 Nobody even brings it up.

00:09:25.640 And so that's the, and again, the one-party rule is,

00:09:30.920 again, it's like we're in California, we're like China,

00:09:33.740 but with more street crime and slower trains.

00:09:35.260 will it change i hate to be a pessimist but no i don't see it changing you know you talk to people

00:09:44.260 um my friend lives in the pacific palisades her house did not burn down

00:09:49.040 and they're having a vote for mayor and she was asking this guy who was standing there in a

00:09:55.120 burned out uh property and then who are you gonna vote for for mayor and he's like you know whoever

00:10:00.440 the Democrats say, that was almost a direct quote. And so they don't, you know, just like when the

00:10:06.540 fires happened, I would talk to my neighbors. They go, well, Jimmy, there's nothing they can do.

00:10:10.700 And then, of course, there's a million things they could do. And I go, did you know that there

00:10:14.640 was, did you know that there was a reservoir above the Pacific Palisades that holds 113

00:10:18.900 millions gallons of water? They drained it before the fires. Did you know that? They go, yeah,

00:10:23.840 but that wouldn't have helped. Like, this is the direct quote. I mean, I guess she didn't go to

00:10:27.860 firefighting school because water is like the number one thing and um so that's that's the

00:10:33.800 that's the their mentality so this whole idea uh you know half the country thinks oh their party

00:10:40.500 is better than the other party and it's like oh there's one party that's obviously better than

00:10:44.860 the other party really i wonder if this is a trap how could this be used against us and that's

00:10:52.800 exactly what it is right just like george carlin said you get 40 different brands of cereal

00:10:56.700 breakfast cereal, you get two political parties

00:10:59.100 and it's used against it. 0.98

00:11:00.940 At least in China, people can hold

00:11:02.800 their politicians accountable because they got no other party

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00:13:33.640 the reason I asked, will it change? Because it does seem like it can't continue like this.

00:13:39.200 So what I said after Thomas Massey was that, you know, the last time that the establishment was this unresponsive to its citizens, George Washington picked up a gun and started shooting people.

00:13:54.660 Well, that's right.

00:13:55.540 And I'm not advocating violence, obviously.

00:13:57.620 and uh but what we need to do and the truckers in canada during covid laid a template for this

00:14:04.760 which is why they overreacted to them so hard because they knew they didn't want them just

00:14:09.120 like when joe biden crushed that railroad strike they had to do that because that would have showed

00:14:14.300 everybody the power of workers because the railroad is the backbone of capitalism and if you shut that

00:14:21.200 down it shuts down and the oligarchs get hurt right and so they had to stop that they made it

00:14:25.980 illegal for them to go on strike. And so what I said is that after Thomas Massey is that

00:14:34.060 we need to have, what if all the railroad workers just didn't show up for work for a week or so?

00:14:41.160 What if the port workers didn't show up? What if all the truck drivers didn't show up? And then

00:14:46.320 they went and they occupied Wall Street, which is why Occupy Wall Street scared the hell out of

00:14:51.580 them. And because that was the left and the right. So you had the Tea Party upset about the banks.

00:14:56.760 You had the left progressives upset about the banks. They had a common interest because that's

00:15:01.360 the thing they don't want you to know is that we actually have a common interest. They want you to

00:15:05.240 keep turning against your neighbor like your neighbor's the problem. Exactly. And your neighbor

00:15:09.020 is not your problem. Your neighbor is suffering under the same oligarchy that you're suffering

00:15:13.080 under. And they don't want you to realize that you have shared interests and that we can work

00:15:17.440 on the other stuff later,

00:15:18.380 but we got to come together

00:15:19.380 to stop these WEF globalist billionaires

00:15:22.180 that actually run and dictate our lives.

00:15:24.340 And so that's what I'm saying

00:15:25.460 is that we need to have,

00:15:26.640 you know,

00:15:27.040 all the grocery store workers,

00:15:28.620 all the UPS, 0.97

00:15:29.360 all the Amazon.

00:15:30.420 And if a couple of them

00:15:31.800 did it together,

00:15:32.940 it would show the power

00:15:34.360 of the workers

00:15:35.700 that we actually can take.

00:15:37.160 And you have to have a protest.

00:15:38.520 When you have a protest,

00:15:39.500 you have to have a demand.

00:15:41.120 So that's why, you know,

00:15:42.440 those no kings marches, right?

00:15:44.600 Or protests.

00:15:45.380 Those are psyops.

00:15:46.940 Of course.

00:15:47.440 How do you know they're a PSYOP?

00:15:48.400 Because there's no demand.

00:15:50.160 You have to have a demand, a concrete demand.

00:15:52.500 And so if the workers shut down,

00:15:55.080 if the railroad workers, port workers, truck drivers,

00:15:57.940 if they shut down, they have a demand.

00:15:59.980 Demand is no outside money in elections.

00:16:02.520 We have publicly funded elections.

00:16:04.440 We have an election cycle that's six weeks

00:16:06.400 instead of two years.

00:16:07.920 And you can't have corporate money.

00:16:10.760 You can't have any of that stuff.

00:16:11.780 It has to be publicly funded.

00:16:13.640 And people say, who's going to pay for that?

00:16:15.220 Well, it costs us trillions of dollars every year

00:16:17.000 because we have corporations funding our elections.

00:16:19.680 It would save us trillions of dollars

00:16:21.240 and we'd have a more responsive democracy

00:16:23.300 if we had publicly funded elections.

00:16:25.440 So that would be my demand.

00:16:27.340 So you gotta have, you're gonna have a protest,

00:16:29.080 you gotta have a demand.

00:16:30.240 And when you see a protest without a demand,

00:16:32.120 that's how you know it's a PSYOP.

00:16:33.500 That's how you know it's to bring people

00:16:35.180 back into the two-party duopoly and hating each other.

00:16:39.600 It seems like if you're going to try to compel someone

00:16:44.400 to do something he doesn't wanna do,

00:16:45.780 you have to do something he really doesn't want you to do so like i the occupy wall street which

00:16:51.780 i especially in retrospect we needed that but the tactic was like have a protest they don't care

00:16:59.420 about your protest what they do care about is money why is no one ever organized millions of

00:17:06.420 americans to say stop paying their credit card bills or stop paying their student loans why are

00:17:11.240 people paying student loans i don't understand that uh it seems like that might get the attention

00:17:17.300 of the people in charge yeah well that's that certainly would and you know how they

00:17:21.720 you know michael parenti who died recently and um he was he was a real uh friend of the working man

00:17:29.900 and he said you know the the the oligarchs they don't care about if you have health care they

00:17:35.720 don't care about if you have you can afford a house they don't care if you have to go bankrupt

00:17:39.920 up getting an education the only thing they actually do care about is what you think that's

00:17:44.320 actually what they care about that's that's smart and that's why they spend all this money on

00:17:48.560 propaganda that's why they own the media that's why they constantly keep you propagandized and

00:17:53.860 the best propaganda is the stuff you don't realize that is a propaganda you just internalize it and

00:17:58.260 you think that's just the way things are so that's the actually they care what you think that's so

00:18:03.100 interesting that's the only thing they care about that's a deep insight because sometimes it feels

00:18:06.760 like they don't care what you think but of course they do because the propaganda is just relentless

00:18:10.200 yeah and michael anybody you can go watch his speeches on uh on youtube they're all over the

00:18:15.400 place and he's got a great sense of humor and he was he was what noam chomsky people pretend he is

00:18:20.820 right exactly yeah he was the real deal he was you know what a fraud you know how you could tell

00:18:25.500 that uh so michael perenti uh got kicked out of academia right in the 70s and he couldn't get a

00:18:32.560 job and he was blacklisted. He was, uh, because he spoke up against the Vietnam war and stuff

00:18:37.640 like that. And that's how, you know, he's the real deal. Noam Chomsky had a job forever at MIT.

00:18:44.240 No problem. And he was never, his job was never threatened. And so he was what, you know,

00:18:51.400 what Chomsky taught me that the, there's the Overton window, there's as far left as you can

00:18:55.900 go. Right. So they'll have on people on the cable news shows that talk about war. It's never,

00:19:01.220 hey we shouldn't have a war it's always like well how much war should we have and that then you have

00:19:05.480 those exactly and so chomsky was there to go you can't go any farther than him so if you go farther 0.90

00:19:10.800 left than him then you're a crazy nut you're a conspiracy theorist yes and he was the one you

00:19:16.020 know who said doesn't who cares who killed president kennedy that's what chomsky said yeah 0.99

00:19:20.440 who cared who cares who cares who overthrew our government who did a coup on our government who

00:19:24.600 cares that so that's a cia talking about same thing you know he just uh repeated back that the

00:19:30.640 9-11 happened exactly the way George Bush said

00:19:32.720 it did to Dick Cheney, who, by the way, when they

00:19:34.700 were asked about it, testified in

00:19:36.660 secret behind closed doors, not under oath

00:19:38.700 and together.

00:19:40.200 So,

00:19:40.360 yeah, so I...

00:19:44.240 Chomsky said he affirmed the

00:19:46.580 official story of 9-11?

00:19:48.700 Yeah. Yeah, so

00:19:50.220 that's why you should...

00:19:52.960 That's our radical?

00:19:54.440 That's our radical.

00:19:56.040 And I always tell people, you know,

00:19:58.020 what woke me up to it was like, I'm not an

00:20:00.420 engineer, but I saw building seven. First of all, it was broadcast 20 minutes that had fallen down

00:20:05.360 by BBC before it ever fell. And then you're like, wait a minute, this building that wasn't hit by

00:20:12.940 a plane, a plane hit a building 200 yards away from it. Very far away. And then it fell into

00:20:18.540 its own footprint, like out of sympathy for the other buildings. And so that's when I knew

00:20:25.060 something was up. And I started my first comedy podcast in 2007 with Todd Glass and my wife,

00:20:33.560 Steph. And I talked about that. And people were like, Jimmy, there's a crazy conspiracy there.

00:20:37.620 I'm like, what? And then even people like Rosie O'Donnell would bring it up on The View. I don't

00:20:41.500 know if you remember that. Yeah, she was like building seven. And I'm like, I know I'm onto

00:20:45.320 something, right? And so whenever you're not allowed to question something, that's when you

00:20:50.160 know they're up to something of course and i experienced that with seth rich so seth rich

00:20:55.340 by the way still not solves nobody knows who killed him it's a robbery in which nothing was

00:21:00.340 it was a botched robbery where they didn't take his watch they didn't take his wallet they didn't

00:21:03.660 take his phone and uh i was just asking normal questions about the seth so the the theory was

00:21:10.120 that when wikileaks um published the emails right they said it was russia hacked into the dnc server

00:21:17.180 but the theory was that

00:21:19.100 this guy was upset

00:21:20.460 that they had rigged

00:21:21.500 the primary against

00:21:22.360 Bernie Sanders

00:21:22.960 he was a real patriot

00:21:23.960 and so he had downloaded

00:21:25.140 those onto a thumbnail

00:21:26.160 and he gave him some

00:21:27.580 through an intermediary

00:21:28.540 gave it to WikiLeaks

00:21:29.520 and Julian Assange

00:21:31.440 all but confirmed it

00:21:32.540 he did all but confirm it

00:21:34.380 he didn't strictly speaking

00:21:35.640 confirm it

00:21:36.160 but he basically confirmed it

00:21:37.800 basically confirmed it

00:21:38.760 right he was like

00:21:39.400 we don't give away

00:21:40.080 our sources

00:21:41.060 you know and

00:21:43.700 but I'm very concerned

00:21:44.800 about Seth Rich's murder

00:21:45.960 which is by the way

00:21:46.820 still on YouTube and worth watching because Julian Assange is maybe the smartest person I've

00:21:51.420 ever met. Yeah, yeah. Really a smart person. And talk about guts, right? He's, I think people who

00:21:59.740 on the left for years, people were free Julian Assange. I didn't pay that much attention. And

00:22:05.060 then I got to know Julian Assange and I realized Julian Assange is way more of a hero, even than

00:22:10.220 people pretended he was. Yes, very much. And I was very flattered. His family came to see me when I

00:22:14.920 was in australia really yeah when i was in melbourne he showed up so it's a it was a very

00:22:19.240 wonderful man anyway um but he basically confirmed the seth rich story the crazed conspiracy theory

00:22:26.800 so seth rich there's all these there's all these questions about his murder right like where was

00:22:30.940 he when he left the bar to the time he got murdered there's hours where was he what was

00:22:34.360 he doing nobody and so there's all this stuff and how come there's no there's no video of this

00:22:38.540 there's no this where's his computer how come we can't see and uh so i did i was covered i was at

00:22:43.660 the Young Turks at the time and I was covering it. And then the Washington Post put me in a hit

00:22:48.260 piece, right? That I was crazy conspiracy theorist. And they put me in a hit piece. This is when

00:22:52.980 legacy media was afraid of YouTube taking away their viewers. And so they would run these hit

00:22:58.140 pieces on YouTubers. And I was one of them. And they put me in with like, look at all these,

00:23:02.120 there's Nazis on YouTube. There's white supremacists on YouTube. There's all this, 0.87

00:23:07.100 hey, your kids are going down rabbit holes. They're being radicalized on YouTube. And they

00:23:10.600 put me in there and they put about uh seth rich right and um so and i don't even want i don't want

00:23:19.560 to even mention the guy who did it but uh the guy who did it works for the washington post

00:23:23.860 and uh he was he's the guy uh he did pro-war rallies for the iraq war right when he was in

00:23:31.780 college yeah and uh and of course that's the guy jeff bezos taps to go cover progressive politics

00:23:37.580 that is the guy and so anyway he puts me in this hit piece and uh nobody really had my back on it

00:23:43.980 and i remember i was on a panel one day on the young turks with uh cenk uger and um ben makowitz

00:23:50.400 other people and i and i said to him can you remember the last time a reporter wasn't allowed

00:23:55.880 to ask questions about an unsolved murder and they're like well they didn't know and i'm like

00:24:03.000 of course this is crazy and so people would slander me jimmy door's a seth rich conspiracy

00:24:07.400 theorist right and uh and the big thing was uh you're not supposed to ask questions because it

00:24:12.400 hurts the family and it's upsetting their family really i've been watching john f kennedy get his

00:24:17.620 head blown off since i was a kid what about his family nobody seems to care uh no that's right so

00:24:23.240 that's how you know that was so then because all of us have a right to justice for all american

00:24:27.940 citizens like that's our country's promise so it's not about i mean i respect the family i feel

00:24:33.140 obviously bad for them their son was murdered you don't want to offend people unnecessarily but

00:24:37.800 it's not about a family it's about the nation right yeah do we have a country where murders

00:24:43.500 are solved or do we have a country in which investigations into murders are thwarted for

00:24:47.500 political reasons you can't have that country uh yeah i don't i remember jackie o coming out and

00:24:52.960 saying, stop looking into this.

00:24:55.520 Stop.

00:24:56.440 She didn't say that.

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00:27:40.820 Did anybody back you up on this when you asked questions?

00:27:44.140 So, no. So, in fact, YouTubers did hit piece after hit piece on me along after the Washington Post put me in their article. And that's when I'm like, OK, I'm on to something. And so then people wanted to see the contents of the Seth Rich's laptop. Yeah. And at first the FBI said, well, we don't have it. And then they're like, OK, we have it, but we can't get the information out. OK. They're like, OK, we got the information, but we can't release it because of the ongoing investigation.

00:28:11.640 and uh so so they lied three times and then the judge there was a judge that ordered them to

00:28:17.120 release the contents they ignored it a second judge said you got to release it they still they

00:28:22.660 still haven't released it so it's been now 10 years 10 or 11 years since he got murdered we

00:28:27.720 still don't know the contents so that's how you know they're up to something and you know there

00:28:30.800 was something to that and we know for a fact that russia did not hack into the dnc server i brought

00:28:36.620 Bill Binney on my show was the number one code breaker for the NSA for decades. And he immediately,

00:28:42.020 I brought him on my show in 2016 to debunk this. And he said, yeah, if this, if they did this,

00:28:47.080 if this was an outside source, he said, there would be all these telltale signs that they did

00:28:52.680 it there. And I'm, you know, I'm not a code breaker, but he would go, and there's none of

00:28:56.900 them are there. So this was local. So this meaning it was downloaded onto a thumb drive. It wasn't

00:29:02.520 And that's how I knew Russiagate was a scam and Russiagate served many purposes. One of them was to keep Trump from being the populist he ran on the first time. Yes. And second part was to get people ready for the war in Ukraine because they had that in the chamber for over a decade. And so it propagated. I remember when George Bush said he met Putin and I looked into his eyes and he I saw he's a good man.

00:29:28.280 Yeah, I'll never forget it.

00:29:29.980 And then they were like, hey, we got to, what are you doing?

00:29:32.020 We got to stop that, right?

00:29:33.400 They would go fishing together on Kennebunkboard and stuff. 0.68

00:29:36.300 And so Putin was our friend.

00:29:38.020 And then they were like, no, no, we got to have a war

00:29:39.800 because, you know, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street,

00:29:42.140 they want to balkanize Russia.

00:29:43.520 They want to split it up and sell it off for parts, 0.58

00:29:45.740 which is what they do, right?

00:29:47.360 And they thought they were going to be able to do that

00:29:49.100 with the Ukraine war.

00:29:50.760 And as Angela Merkel revealed that when they had

00:29:54.580 the peace agreements in Ukraine,

00:29:56.480 that that wasn't really for peace. 0.95

00:29:58.480 That was just so the Ukraine

00:29:59.680 had the time to build up their military

00:30:01.940 to get ready for this war

00:30:03.120 that they provoked from Putin.

00:30:05.700 And so, but people don't know that

00:30:07.120 in the United States.

00:30:07.680 People don't know anything

00:30:08.240 because the people who want that war

00:30:10.260 own the media.

00:30:11.600 And then people like me who know that,

00:30:13.440 and I tell that story,

00:30:14.620 I'm considered borderline content on YouTube.

00:30:17.640 And they call me a conspiracy theorist

00:30:19.620 on Wikipedia,

00:30:20.140 even though I was right about it.

00:30:21.600 And just like I was right 0.94

00:30:22.600 about the Syrian gas attacks,

00:30:23.880 which now the OPCW admits

00:30:25.580 that they suppressed the whistleblowers.

00:30:29.080 But I mean, literally, you go to Wikipedia

00:30:31.620 and it would say Jimmy Dore's a conspiracy theorist

00:30:33.660 because CNN says that the gas attacks happen the way that, 0.99

00:30:38.720 and I'm like, yeah, that's all garbage. 0.96

00:30:40.340 And so anyway, they're smart. 0.94

00:30:43.620 Just like Michael Parenti said,

00:30:45.060 they only care about what you think,

00:30:46.400 which is why they control the media,

00:30:47.820 so they can control what you think, right?

00:30:49.860 And you don't get a $35 million contract

00:30:52.620 for debunking Russiagate.

00:30:54.120 You get a $35 million contract like Rachel Maddow got for pushing Russiagate.

00:30:58.640 In fact, when the war started in Iran, I watched a video of hers.

00:31:01.720 She's still blaming Putin.

00:31:03.060 She's saying he's doing the bidding of as if Putin wanted that to happen because now he gets to sell oil at a higher price.

00:31:09.000 Yeah, that was an unintended consequence of this war.

00:31:11.860 Trump had to take the sanctions off of Russia.

00:31:15.000 And so anyway.

00:31:16.520 But if you're Rachel Maddow, why not just come out against the war in Iran?

00:31:20.200 I mean, that was a pure Trump thing and BB.

00:31:23.400 Everybody in your audience hates Trump and BB,

00:31:26.460 so why wouldn't you just say that?

00:31:29.780 Why blame Putin?

00:31:31.040 That's insane.

00:31:32.500 Because they have to keep that war going, I guess, 0.99

00:31:34.860 and she's a puppet of the military industrial. 0.75

00:31:36.640 Again, you don't get a $35 million contract.

00:31:38.960 This is what she got for telling the truth.

00:31:42.740 Tucker, I use you as an example all the time.

00:31:46.020 You don't get fired for lying.

00:31:47.560 He got fired when he started to tell the truth

00:31:49.640 about the neocons and the military industrial companies.

00:31:52.480 complex the syrian war which is when you and i first connected because we were the two people

00:31:56.440 telling the truth you were the only other person and i thought am i going insane there's no evidence

00:32:00.080 that this happened i don't even know assad i didn't have strong feelings about assad um he's

00:32:05.440 certainly better than what we have now in syria but i i was just like this just seems as like a

00:32:10.200 reporting matter like a lie and you were the only other person saying that the only other person

00:32:15.440 i remember doing a video and i said boy when if it comes down to me and tucker telling the truth 0.55

00:32:19.820 about this we're screwed and of course we are screwed because now al-qaeda runs syria exactly

00:32:25.340 exactly as i predicted exactly as tulsi gabbard predicted i know that if you get rid of assad 0.73

00:32:30.840 who's going to take over al-qaeda or isis by the way which we're funding and probably created

00:32:35.980 so and isn't it interesting that isis and al-qaeda the sworn enemies of israel never attack

00:32:41.900 israel isn't that interesting it is kind of weird yeah it's kind of it's almost like they invented

00:32:45.560 them for a purpose people don't care people don't i talk about this people don't care especially my

00:32:52.320 you know my ex-friends in hollywood they have no idea about any of this stuff they don't know that

00:32:56.720 the so they see a guy who's running uh syria now and he's got a blue brooks brothers suit on

00:33:02.580 and he's meeting with the president and he's meeting with petraeus he's over at downing

00:33:06.840 street and they're like yeah he's he's our guy i'm like you know he's the he's the former head

00:33:10.980 chopper from Syria, from Al-Qaeda, right? Like, huh? What? I don't know. They all look like

00:33:16.240 Kash Patel. I don't know what's going on, you know? So... It's funny, even the Gulf Arabs, 0.80

00:33:22.780 when he took, when Jelani took over Syria, they were more uncomfortable than our State Department. 0.89

00:33:31.100 Our State Department was like, yeah, okay, it's totally fine, because the Israelis wanted it. 0.97

00:33:34.900 But even the Gulf Arabs were like, ooh, this guy's pretty scary. Like, really? We going with this? 1.00

00:33:40.980 And Qaddafi predicted all this, and that's why they had to kill him, too.

00:33:43.920 Oh, yeah, he gave a speech at the Arab League where he talked about,

00:33:47.960 you know, you don't think they're going to come for you next. 0.67

00:33:49.540 They're coming for you.

00:33:51.020 And they did.

00:33:52.080 And they came for him because, well, he was a threat to the petrodollar

00:33:55.640 because he was going to create the dinar, right,

00:33:58.160 and the most successful country in all of Africa.

00:34:00.400 And he was going to unite Africa, and they can't have that 0.99

00:34:02.780 because they want to go in there.

00:34:03.980 You know, as Michael Perrantes says, it's not a poor continent.

00:34:07.000 It's a very rich continent, and they just keep the people poor

00:34:10.020 so we can extract all their resources, 0.58

00:34:12.440 which is what they do. 0.53

00:34:13.700 And so he was going to unite the people of Africa 1.00

00:34:16.340 and they can't have that 0.97

00:34:17.320 because that would be a threat to the euro.

00:34:18.800 It'd be a threat to the US dollar.

00:34:21.020 And so that's why he had to go.

00:34:22.560 Plus, he said, if you get rid of me,

00:34:24.960 they're going to flood Western Europe.

00:34:27.800 He thought he was safe

00:34:28.980 because if they got rid of him, 1.00

00:34:30.420 then all the refugees would go flood. 0.97

00:34:33.380 But it turns out that's exactly what they wanted. 1.00

00:34:36.700 Exactly.

00:34:37.880 And why do they want that?

00:34:38.880 they want that for the because they again they want you hating your neighbor they want you to

00:34:44.620 be afraid of your neighbor and fighting so just like in the united states why did they have open

00:34:49.200 borders and um i'm you know i'm very pro-immigrant you know um but the reason why they want to flood

00:34:58.580 the country with is for to by the way bernie sanders used to be uh uh against open borders

00:35:04.660 Of course.

00:35:05.000 And he would say it's a Koch brothers scam.

00:35:07.000 Of course.

00:35:07.580 To lower wages, obviously.

00:35:09.260 Lower wages and then keeping poor workers fighting against even poor, more desperate people.

00:35:14.720 Instead of coming together, realizing your common interests and fighting against the oligarchy.

00:35:19.460 And what I tell people is if you find yourself angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, pretty good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you.

00:35:29.760 And so that's why I say don't blame the immigrant because you would do exactly what they're doing.

00:35:34.000 I agree completely.

00:35:34.560 I would do whatever I could to get into the United States.

00:35:36.940 100%.

00:35:37.340 Yeah, I would lie, cheat, and steal.

00:35:39.220 I'd walk from Tegucigalpa any day.

00:35:41.120 That's right, to give my kids a better life and myself.

00:35:44.620 And so that's what they did in Europe. 1.00

00:35:46.440 So you go there and it's to dilute the culture

00:35:48.920 and get people fighting amongst each other

00:35:52.900 so you don't come together and fight the man.

00:35:55.620 But Gaddafi thought that...

00:35:58.080 And he thought that they didn't want that.

00:35:59.960 I didn't know that.

00:36:00.240 He didn't realize that they wanted that.

00:36:01.800 And as soon as they realized that they wanted it, he was gone.

00:36:04.600 So there was many reasons to get rid of him.

00:36:06.880 And of course, you know, Hillary Clinton famously said,

00:36:09.020 we came, we saw he died. 0.99

00:36:11.220 And she giggled about it because they're blood-soaked psychopaths. 0.95

00:36:14.920 I don't think that's an overstatement. 0.95

00:36:16.780 It's not an overstatement at all.

00:36:19.540 Are you kidding me? 1.00

00:36:20.820 They're all for the Iraq war. 0.99

00:36:21.980 They killed a million people, right, in the Iraq war. 0.99

00:36:24.100 And look what they did to Libya. 0.78

00:36:25.820 Now it's got open slave markets still to this day. 0.62

00:36:28.820 Nobody cares. 0.56

00:36:29.440 They used plutonium-tipped bombs.

00:36:34.740 So Gaddafi took desert and turned it into farmland.

00:36:39.320 He created a water system, which is considered like the eighth wonder of the world, and they bombed it.

00:36:45.140 They bombed it with depleted uranium-tipped bombs.

00:36:48.280 Why?

00:36:49.740 To make it a failed state.

00:36:52.120 And so now the water is polluted with uranium. 0.89

00:36:57.140 Was that NATO? 0.99

00:36:58.260 Yeah, that's the good guys.

00:36:59.820 Yeah, the defensive alliance.

00:37:01.400 Yeah, the defensive alliance, right?

00:37:03.060 UK, France, and the United States.

00:37:05.100 We were the good guys.

00:37:06.560 That's what people think.

00:37:07.760 Just, I'll never forget when Tulsi was running for president

00:37:12.480 and she went on Stephen Colbert,

00:37:16.100 who's one of the biggest disappointments ever to comedy. 0.91

00:37:19.560 And he said, when she was telling the truth about Syria, right? 0.81

00:37:22.340 And she was saying, you know,

00:37:23.060 we shouldn't be doing this regime change wars and stuff.

00:37:25.300 And he leaned over and he said,

00:37:26.360 I see America as a force for good in the world

00:37:29.400 With a straight face

00:37:30.240 That's a grown up man who's been in comedy his whole life

00:37:33.820 You think America is a force

00:37:35.140 Have you looked around the world

00:37:36.720 We have a thousand military bases

00:37:38.660 What has that gotten to anybody 1.00

00:37:39.620 Did you see what we did to Iraq 0.98

00:37:41.040 Did you see what we did to Libya 0.98

00:37:42.120 Did you see what we're currently doing 1.00

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00:39:59.860 So, not to sidebar here, but what about Colbert, who I always thought was talented?

00:40:07.900 Extremely.

00:40:08.500 He did the best show ever.

00:40:10.180 I liked his show way better than The Daily Show when he did The Colbert Report.

00:40:13.480 Yeah.

00:40:14.380 And then he became that guy.

00:40:15.840 How?

00:40:16.240 The guy that he was.

00:40:18.040 Who knows?

00:40:19.020 I'm not a psychiatrist

00:40:21.720 but he became

00:40:23.760 the thing he used to lampoon

00:40:25.040 he became that guy

00:40:26.520 and he just repeats

00:40:29.160 military industrial complex talking points

00:40:31.920 you know he's

00:40:32.780 helped build up the momentum

00:40:35.600 for the Ukraine war

00:40:36.840 I said it about Jon Stewart too

00:40:39.320 Jon Stewart who can, supremely talented

00:40:41.460 these people are supremely talented

00:40:42.800 but he'll never tell his audience the truth

00:40:45.460 about the Ukraine war

00:40:46.680 Just like he'll never tell people 0.62

00:40:48.400 why he hung a medal on a Nazi at Disney World, right? 0.65

00:40:52.520 And he told the truth about the virus,

00:40:56.700 the COVID virus on Colbert.

00:40:58.480 I remember that.

00:40:59.240 Which Colbert kept trying to stop him

00:41:00.860 and take the legs out from underneath his comedy bit,

00:41:03.500 which was brilliant.

00:41:04.760 He had to literally get off the couch

00:41:06.320 and walk towards the camera

00:41:07.520 so he could finish his comedy bit

00:41:09.540 about where the COVID virus came from.

00:41:12.000 Do you remember this?

00:41:12.560 Very well.

00:41:13.320 Yes.

00:41:13.900 And so he paid a big social price for that,

00:41:16.220 john stewart he did yeah and so he talked about boy i didn't i i found i found out that uh i didn't

00:41:23.020 know that certain medicines were political he's talking about ivermectin and there's a right-wing

00:41:27.620 medicine he talked about this um and then to make up for that he had to give a tongue bath to hillary

00:41:34.240 clinton and condoleezza rice i don't know if you remember that no yeah which way that's penance

00:41:39.260 that is penance and then he had to hang a medal on a nazi at disney world which he'll never go

00:41:44.280 anywhere where anybody will ask and got buddy i'm a big fan of john stewart's and but i just don't

00:41:48.220 you know chris hedges told me when the first time he came on my show was that i'm like john stewart's

00:41:54.080 great the way he takes down both sides he's like he'll never challenge the establishment jimmy

00:41:58.860 which is why he's there and i'm like oh in a meaningful way and that's true and that's why

00:42:04.640 he's allowed to go on those tv shows and and have a tv show i mean same thing with bill maher right

00:42:10.860 if they were if really a threat they wouldn't be there they're not a threat but bill ma i mean

00:42:15.520 bill maher not you know i don't want to be mean but not a talented guy i remember going to his

00:42:22.320 house and he has this amazing house um and it's like wow you've really on the basis of very little

00:42:29.260 native talent i mean literally i know comedians no one's ever heard of who are like kind of

00:42:34.180 geniuses not the case for bill maher this was 25 almost 30 years ago i first thought this

00:42:39.360 and i was like wow this guy how did he get so successful so remember when he did tell the

00:42:46.480 truth when he had that show i'll never forget it yeah so he told the truth about well the

00:42:50.520 the hijackers on 9-11 weren't cowards he said you could say whatever you want about them but they

00:42:55.640 you know they gave up their own life for a cause and that's the opposite and boy oh boy did he pay

00:43:00.400 a price and he got his mind right immediately and so they canceled him and the story i've heard

00:43:06.120 was that his management company

00:43:09.980 also represented the Sopranos, right?

00:43:15.360 And so HBO wanted the Sopranos bad.

00:43:18.960 And so they said, okay, we'll give you the Sopranos,

00:43:20.700 but you have to give Bill Maher a show.

00:43:22.240 And that's how he got his show on HBO.

00:43:24.140 And just like George Costanza said on Seinfeld

00:43:26.140 when they were pitching a TV show on that sitcom,

00:43:29.160 that they asked George Costanza,

00:43:30.500 why would anybody want to watch this?

00:43:31.660 And he goes, because it's on TV.

00:43:33.140 And that's why people watch Bill Maher,

00:43:34.680 because he's on TV.

00:43:36.000 And he gets big-name guests, right?

00:43:39.160 Which I'm jealous of, no doubt about it.

00:43:42.160 But he won't bring on people.

00:43:44.360 Every time he brings on someone that's to his left,

00:43:46.880 he gets schooled and he gets embarrassed,

00:43:48.420 like Glenn Greenwald.

00:43:49.300 When Glenn Greenwald schooled him hard,

00:43:52.000 I've showed that video many times.

00:43:53.500 Glenn's amazing.

00:43:54.560 I can't believe he had Glenn on.

00:43:56.000 That was back in 2011 or 2010,

00:43:58.240 and he's never had him on again.

00:43:59.480 Of course not.

00:44:00.440 Yeah.

00:44:01.160 So anytime he has someone to his left,

00:44:04.060 people don't like to you know people who consider themselves liberal the last thing they want to do

00:44:07.980 is be challenged from their left and so he'll never bring but Bill Maher that's why he's he loves to

00:44:13.060 have be friends with like Ann Coulter and people like that uh but he's not going to do that the

00:44:18.540 other way and um so yeah that's what that's what we're left with and that's how he got that job

00:44:24.360 and um that's why and nobody knows the ratings of HBO right they don't they don't release them

00:44:29.220 a subscription but um and uh you know i'll say fully that uh i'm i'm jealous of the influence

00:44:36.860 he gets to have on the culture and i'm i would i and i'm jealous that he has that show there's no

00:44:41.300 but it's waning for sure nobody likes him that's the weird thing right no you know and my wife

00:44:48.400 always says can we at least have somebody who's fun to look at if he's gonna be wrong about

00:44:52.180 everything i do think though the gaza tragedy has forced people into sunlight kind of because like

00:45:01.000 if you're defending that you don't have to hate israel or you know have any kind of wacky views

00:45:06.280 but like how could you defend that how could a normal person defend that you're not a normal

00:45:10.400 person if you're defending that i think tucker do you don't think israel's right to defend itself

00:45:14.860 i think everybody has a right to defend himself i just like that's genocide that's murdering

00:45:20.140 children. So, and I think a person who's like, likes Israel, loves Israel even could say, yeah,

00:45:26.880 I love Israel, but like, I love America, but I'm not going to defend the grotesque things that

00:45:32.080 our country has done. Why would I defend that? I degrade myself and I lie when I do that. So

00:45:36.980 why couldn't you say, yeah, I really love Israel, you know, but that's disgusting what they're 0.83

00:45:41.780 starving people who didn't do anything wrong. Like how could you defend that? And people don't know 0.76

00:45:46.460 that there's a thing called the Greater Israel Project,

00:45:48.780 which I didn't know.

00:45:49.900 I didn't know most of this stuff until October 7th, right?

00:45:53.520 I mean, I had covered when Israel would go in 0.65

00:45:56.440 and mow the lawn, you know, 1.00

00:45:57.740 I would cover how horrible that was,

00:45:59.380 but I didn't really understand the genesis of it

00:46:01.260 and I didn't understand what was going on.

00:46:03.720 But after October 7th, I did.

00:46:06.140 Now I understand.

00:46:07.080 I understand that, you know, 0.89

00:46:08.420 that Israel was founded by terrorists' organizations

00:46:10.920 and there was a thing called the Nakba

00:46:12.700 and that they say it was invented

00:46:15.780 because of the Holocaust,

00:46:18.000 and that's not why, 0.70

00:46:18.740 because Zionism had been around

00:46:19.780 since the early 1800s.

00:46:21.120 Yes.

00:46:21.360 It has nothing to do with that.

00:46:22.860 That was always a problem.

00:46:23.780 And they couldn't get, you know,

00:46:24.960 they couldn't get people

00:46:25.600 to move to the middle of the debt

00:46:26.560 and nobody wanted to go, 1.00

00:46:27.420 the Jews didn't want to go there, 0.85

00:46:28.820 so they had to make a deal with Hitler

00:46:30.360 to get people to go. 0.78

00:46:32.460 So it's, I know all that stuff now,

00:46:34.780 and I know that it's, you know,

00:46:36.720 why a two-state solution isn't the solution,

00:46:39.100 and you have to have a one-state solution,

00:46:41.160 which Bernie Sanders' video

00:46:42.240 just went around of him

00:46:43.200 saying that he doesn't support a one-state solution

00:46:45.840 because then Israel wouldn't be a Jewish state.

00:46:49.000 What? 0.52

00:46:49.520 And he was, I support Israel.

00:46:50.720 He said, this is our progressive lefty leader.

00:46:53.980 I was shocked by that video.

00:46:55.240 Was that real?

00:46:56.220 That's real.

00:46:57.100 Yeah, but he was also,

00:46:59.940 two years earlier to that video,

00:47:01.660 he was talking to Ezra Klein

00:47:04.140 and he said, yeah, open borders,

00:47:05.800 that's a Koch brothers.

00:47:07.900 So it's amazing, the real,

00:47:10.920 but he's always been a warmonger.

00:47:13.200 He was, you know, Bernie Sanders, he was, he was for Kosovo and all that stuff.

00:47:16.700 He was?

00:47:17.240 Yeah.

00:47:18.800 It's sad.

00:47:20.720 Bernie Sanders, I saw one Bernie Sanders speech in person and it was, you know, in Iowa when

00:47:25.860 he was running in 16 and it was all about the oligarchy's bad.

00:47:30.040 And, you know, at the time I had pretty conventional views, but I've never been for oligarchy.

00:47:34.600 Why would I be for that?

00:47:35.320 It's the enemy of democracy.

00:47:36.340 So I was like, you know, and I know a lot of billionaires and some are nice, but most

00:47:40.720 are like gravely overrated.

00:47:42.140 And like, I kind of liked his speech, you know, it was pure economic populism.

00:47:47.260 Yeah.

00:47:48.040 And then, so I thought, yeah, I get it.

00:47:50.300 And by the way, the audience was not all like, I don't know, people playing hacky sack or hippies or whatever.

00:47:57.100 It was like normal people.

00:47:59.100 And that really kind of. 0.96

00:48:00.680 When he was on the anti-oligarch tour. 0.51

00:48:02.300 Totally.

00:48:02.800 Isn't it amazing that he didn't do any of those anti-oligarch tours when Joe Biden was president?

00:48:07.480 I know. 0.64

00:48:07.980 Kind of amazing.

00:48:08.440 All of a sudden, oligarchy is a problem now.

00:48:11.240 Kamala Harris and Joe Biden 0.55

00:48:12.320 had more billionaire donors than Trump did,

00:48:13.940 but somehow now it's a problem.

00:48:15.720 And what else they didn't show you

00:48:18.060 was that there were pro-Palestinian protesters

00:48:20.040 that they had kicked out of those rallies.

00:48:21.740 Actually?

00:48:22.320 Yeah.

00:48:23.560 I missed so much of the detail

00:48:25.280 because that's not my world

00:48:26.720 and I didn't expect to feel that way about it.

00:48:29.640 Anyway.

00:48:30.160 What I don't understand is,

00:48:31.380 so I went to the 2016,

00:48:33.020 I was a big Bernie Sanders.

00:48:34.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:35.320 And just for the record,

00:48:36.200 I'm pretty sure he did oppose the Iraq war.

00:48:38.160 So I don't want people going, 1.00

00:48:38.960 he was okay.

00:48:39.340 But, you know, he played into the propaganda for the Ukraine war and, anyway, he won't call it a genocide, anyway, in Gaza.

00:48:50.460 So, but I was a big Bernie guy, and I believed in him, right, which is a hard lesson, don't believe in politicians.

00:48:57.980 Amen. Oh, I've learned that lesson, yes.

00:48:59.940 Oh, boy, it's a tough one.

00:49:00.920 And so I went to the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia, right, Liberty Bell. 1.00

00:49:07.760 and uh it was great you walked into the convention and half the place was filled with bernie 0.86

00:49:13.340 supporters who wanted to overthrow the establishment get money out of politics overthrow the uh the

00:49:19.720 corporatists inside the party and give it back to the people it was amazing then it was real it was

00:49:24.720 a ruckus it was a real ruckus i was there i remember and they turned the lights out on people

00:49:28.660 they use sound can all kinds of stuff right i was there you were there yeah yeah oh it was it was

00:49:33.840 invigorating i'm like this is it they we got them the next time we're going to have a convention

00:49:38.320 they can't stop this this is a trick well what they did was they got bernie sanders so uh bernie

00:49:44.300 sanders tucks his tail he endorses hillary clinton and he extracts not one concession for doing so

00:49:50.340 nothing he didn't ask for anything for him for his supporters to vote for hillary clinton and

00:49:56.300 because because trump right which you know the democrats they say they hate trump but they love

00:50:01.060 because that's their biggest fundraiser is Donald Trump.

00:50:04.580 Donald Trump goes away.

00:50:05.280 How are they going to, so they have to make another.

00:50:07.160 So not only did he do that,

00:50:09.160 but he did nothing with his movement, right?

00:50:11.320 So he had half the people who voted

00:50:13.200 in the Democratic primary on his side,

00:50:15.160 probably more because he got cheated.

00:50:17.560 So he did nothing.

00:50:19.500 He didn't ask, just like Barack Obama,

00:50:20.780 when he got elected,

00:50:22.040 he disbanded his followers, right? 0.87

00:50:23.940 His young people.

00:50:24.880 Same thing with Bruce Anderson.

00:50:26.220 He didn't say, all right,

00:50:27.180 what we're going to do is we're going to shut it down.

00:50:28.540 We're going to have a protest here.

00:50:29.560 We're going to have a protest there.

00:50:30.580 We're going to go occupy Walter. We're going to occupy the DNC. We're going to make sure they get corporate money. He didn't ask them to do anything, anything. And that's how you know. And that he was corrupted and co-opted, put it that way. And so same thing happened in 2020. They all got together, cheated him in a different way this time.

00:50:52.520 And again, he just endorsed Joe Biden

00:50:54.620 without asking any, nothing.

00:50:57.120 We didn't get a public option.

00:50:58.740 We didn't get to raise the minimum wage.

00:51:00.260 We didn't get nothing.

00:51:01.940 And so, and he didn't ask his followers to do anything.

00:51:06.460 And he still won't ask his followers to do anything. 0.55

00:51:08.580 Just like AOC.

00:51:09.540 They won't say get in the street.

00:51:10.960 They won't say go protest here, go protest there.

00:51:13.320 They're playing along.

00:51:14.220 They're good boys.

00:51:15.160 What's AOC's game?

00:51:17.680 What do you think she actually believes? 1.00

00:51:18.980 She's a narcissist who's using politics for celebrities. 1.00

00:51:21.780 She could easily be an actress in Hollywood. 1.00

00:51:23.520 Yeah. 0.96

00:51:24.420 100%.

00:51:24.820 Yeah. 0.73

00:51:25.420 Does she have a shot at the nomination, do you think?

00:51:28.700 You know, of course, I think.

00:51:31.240 Why wouldn't she?

00:51:32.200 I mean, she got up there and she lied at the DN.

00:51:35.340 So let me get back to that.

00:51:37.220 So they didn't have a convention in 2020, right, because of COVID.

00:51:41.860 So 2016, they have this convention.

00:51:43.720 It looks like the people are going to take over the Democratic Party 0.71

00:51:46.380 and return it back to the workers. 0.83

00:51:47.780 That's what I thought.

00:51:48.380 I thought there's no way they can stop this.

00:51:50.480 this is a trade that can't be stopped so then they don't have a convention in 2020

00:51:54.960 birdie capitulates ask for nothing again and then the next time they have a convention was 2024 i

00:52:00.560 went to that one in chicago and you walk in and i'm sure i told you it was like i was at a stepford

00:52:05.500 wives convention nobody can i go i would interview people and i would say how do you feel about them

00:52:10.640 not having a primary and disappointing kamala harris they're like yeah but we have a process

00:52:14.700 that's what they would say to a person they would go no we have she followed the process and we have

00:52:19.160 a process i'm like yeah that process doesn't involve voting doesn't that bother you didn't

00:52:24.660 bother anybody seth rich was part of the process yeah and they you know was this one billionaire

00:52:29.620 after another billionaire giving speeches at the democratic convention and to show you how

00:52:33.980 how failed bernie sanders and his movement is uh our revolution which was the political

00:52:40.920 organization he founded is now and you know who they're endorsing in the governor's race in

00:52:45.860 california who tom steyer a billionaire really yes a billionaire made his money in private prisons

00:52:52.020 so uh that's how bad it's gotten uh so there's i i hate to say this but you know and unless

00:53:00.000 workers rise up in a real way they're like so if if so that's why i think trump knows he kind of

00:53:05.120 has to end this war because if gas prices go to ten dollars a gallon which they could easily go

00:53:10.200 to easily um that uh it will people are like hey i can't afford to do any i can't afford to go

00:53:16.300 anywhere i can't afford to even drive to work so that would be that the paid would be so great at

00:53:21.360 that moment maybe people would rise up in unison and um so we'll see well but that's what it takes

00:53:29.140 that's what it's gonna take so yeah so 24 convention it was just like a step but i was

00:53:33.380 like oh so it's all they got it it's all over and then and then you know the aoc goes on stage and

00:53:38.780 She said, Kamala Harris is working tirelessly to get a peace deal.

00:53:44.060 They weren't doing anything, right?

00:53:45.660 And she even said, I'm not going to, I wouldn't change anything that Joe Biden did.

00:53:49.140 She said that when she went on The View.

00:53:50.440 I wouldn't change anything. 1.00

00:53:51.840 So a woman who the first time she ran for president could get a vote. 1.00

00:53:57.060 She had to drop out. 1.00

00:53:57.740 She was like the first one to drop out.

00:53:58.960 I'll never forget it.

00:53:59.460 And then she becomes the vice president. 0.98

00:54:01.380 And then she becomes a nominee.

00:54:02.900 And still nobody voted for her.

00:54:04.160 so and because i criticize democrats because i was a democrat my whole life until 2016

00:54:11.880 um people immediately go well if you're not if you're going to criticize the democrats

00:54:16.840 you must be a republican you must be a trumper you must be that i'm like no no i i the republicans 0.55

00:54:22.760 never asked for my vote democrats did and they i got tricked by them i got tricked by bernie 0.73

00:54:27.420 sanders i got tricked by aoc hard i was the first tv show she came on well i wouldn't call it a tv

00:54:32.500 show but that was the first show she came on and she tweeted out i was on jimmy door show today and

00:54:37.340 all that stuff and then as soon as she got elected she never returned a phone call never no way no no 0.94

00:54:43.040 way in fact when i held her to her campaign promise with force the vote which was trying to get them 0.78

00:54:48.880 to extract something from nancy pelosi for their vote as her first speaker when there was only eight

00:54:53.820 so they it was called force the vote and it was a watershed moment because it proved that no matter

00:54:59.560 how many progressives you elect inside the Democratic Party, they're not going to do

00:55:03.820 what you want them to do. They're not going to even do what they campaigned on, very much like

00:55:07.280 Trump. They're going to go along with the establishment. They wouldn't oppose Nancy

00:55:11.420 Pelosi. They wouldn't extract anything. And the thing that they were, everybody agreed in the

00:55:15.780 Democratic Party for decades, including Nancy Pelosi, that we need to have a vote for Medicare

00:55:20.160 for all on the floor of the House. Not that it would pass, but that it would expose the people

00:55:24.800 who were fakers saying they were for it.

00:55:26.880 And it would start a national conversation about it

00:55:29.880 and people would get informed about what it actually is

00:55:31.660 and it would help build the movement for it.

00:55:34.000 And they wouldn't do that.

00:55:35.320 They all ran on it.

00:55:36.640 It was in the DSA handbook from 2019.

00:55:40.360 They opposed it.

00:55:41.320 They opposed, and she ran on it.

00:55:43.200 She said, we can't even get a vote for Medicare.

00:55:44.760 Think about that.

00:55:45.440 She said at a campaign rally, think about that.

00:55:47.380 We can't even get a vote for Medicare

00:55:48.560 for all on the House floor.

00:55:49.780 She said that.

00:55:50.500 So I'm like, boom, this is the thing to do.

00:55:52.500 And so when I started to force the vote

00:55:54.340 and i got a big coalition of people behind it and uh she said i was committing um stochastic

00:56:01.300 violence against her no way i've never really understood what that term means it means that

00:56:07.740 uh you're exposing them for being hypocrites and so they have to try to discredit you some way 0.89

00:56:12.380 that's what that means so you're you're a terrorist for so i'm using so i'm i'm in i'm 0.96

00:56:17.560 inciting violence against them with words that's what that's what they're trying to say

00:56:21.200 and because I said F

00:56:23.500 I said F-A-O-C

00:56:24.760 and she used that as a

00:56:27.340 that's because that's not politics

00:56:28.780 that's stochastic violence

00:56:30.160 okay

00:56:30.980 so what about Newsom?

00:56:34.060 I think he's fantastic

00:56:35.340 don't you think he's great?

00:56:36.340 I think he cares about the people

00:56:37.720 I think it's great

00:56:39.900 I think he's gonna

00:56:40.520 he's gonna make the country

00:56:42.560 look as pretty as his hair

00:56:43.780 that's what I think 0.79

00:56:44.780 does he

00:56:45.760 I mean

00:56:46.400 it feels like he's the nominee

00:56:48.380 we'll see

00:56:50.960 I mean, he's got the gift of the gab.

00:56:53.060 Oh, he's unbelievable.

00:56:53.920 He really knows how to, you know, it's like Obama.

00:56:58.100 Like, I would feel better after Obama gave his speech.

00:57:00.420 Oh, for sure.

00:57:00.660 I was like, I feel good, and I know he's full of it.

00:57:02.840 And I would feel better.

00:57:04.140 It's weird.

00:57:04.740 He has that.

00:57:05.640 And he'll say literally anything.

00:57:07.380 Literally anything.

00:57:08.640 And he's fun to talk to.

00:57:10.060 Like, he's very charming.

00:57:13.460 Like, I will say, yeah, yeah.

00:57:15.440 He does all those movements all the time, and he's got the hand thing.

00:57:18.380 But is he in any sense like different from Chuck Schumer or Pelosi or anybody like that?

00:57:24.080 No, they're all no. You don't get to be there if you are. You're not allowed to be the nominee if you are.

00:57:29.740 If you don't go along and play along, you know, you know, that's why in 2016, you know, just like Brexit, democracy happened and they were like, well, we got to make sure this doesn't happen.

00:57:43.640 when trump got uh the nomination they're like we can't let this happen again right and same thing

00:57:48.300 with brexit we can't and so it's all the crackdown on free speech and anti-democratic stuff and uh

00:57:53.700 they did russiagate which again already told you served dual purposes and then they got and trump

00:57:58.900 got his mind right and and now trump is one of them and the people that he used to call out

00:58:03.360 people he he got elected for calling out neocons oh yeah that was his thing people like yes

00:58:08.940 Now he's the chief neocon.

00:58:11.140 And people say, and I have to push back on this.

00:58:13.580 A lot of people, you know, I still have friends in Hollywood that I go to dinner with, and they're good people because they have the right intentions, but they don't realize they're propagandized. 1.00

00:58:24.500 And their whole thing is, oh, these idiots who voted for Trump. 1.00

00:58:27.140 How did you not know he's the biggest con man in the world? 1.00

00:58:29.920 And I go, well, he did have a first term.

00:58:32.100 His first term where he didn't start any new wars.

00:58:34.900 so he was the first president in decades that didn't start a new war everybody gets two wars

00:58:40.020 right and uh you know clinton bush brock obama he expanded the afghanistan war and he got to do

00:58:47.120 syria plus he did the drone wars which killed 90 innocent people and um and he dropped more

00:58:53.300 bombs than george bush people don't know that the brock obama dropped more bombs than george bush

00:58:57.440 and so and then trump got in and he didn't do it you're like what and then he you know he wanted

00:59:02.300 to pull troops out of syria and we find out that the military lied to him and said they did and

00:59:07.020 they didn't right you know about that story of course and so it was like so we had a track record

00:59:11.820 and i did not nobody saw that so people say they saw it coming that he was always a con man

00:59:18.560 um yeah what politician isn't a con man yes right and but his his particular presidential campaign

00:59:26.080 was the biggest con i've seen since nigerian prince's learned how to email

00:59:30.580 it was amazing and people even more clever than any nigerian prince i've ever been emailed by

00:59:39.740 he got people way smarter than me uh convinced and you know and uh i didn't vote for trump i

00:59:46.680 never voted for republican i voted for dave chapelle i wrote him in and um but uh but people

00:59:53.240 think people who think people think i did campaign rallies for donald trump i didn't

00:59:56.720 campaign. Well, I actually did. Yeah, I know.

00:59:59.040 A number of them. Yeah.

01:00:01.120 Then to wake up and

01:00:02.680 substantively he's

01:00:04.820 no different from Chuck Schumer

01:00:06.660 on economics and foreign policy.

01:00:09.320 Or Lindsey Graham. Or Lindsey

01:00:10.280 Graham. And you're like,

01:00:13.680 yeah, but Chuck Schumer is like

01:00:14.800 for the Republican

01:00:16.720 brain as like, you know, 0.95

01:00:19.300 evil. Yeah.

01:00:20.720 And it's like, where do Trump and

01:00:22.880 Chuck Schumer disagree on the biggest

01:00:24.900 issues? And they don't.

01:00:26.720 And so they both want to keep you away from health care.

01:00:30.600 Yeah.

01:00:30.800 They both want to do foreign wars. 0.56

01:00:32.900 They both support Israel unconditionally and what they're doing.

01:00:37.800 They they both want to crush a worker strike.

01:00:40.900 So that was why it was so important for Biden and the Democrats to crush that railroad strike,

01:00:46.780 because that would have set the template and an example, just like the truckers in Canada.

01:00:50.960 They'd had to stop that immediately, call them Nazis and white supremacists.

01:00:54.460 And they had to debank them and shut down.

01:00:56.700 They had to do that because they didn't want that catching on.

01:01:00.080 Oh, yeah.

01:01:00.380 And just like Michael Prentice said, they only care about what you think.

01:01:02.660 And if you see that and you start to think different thoughts than the media wants you, they got a problem.

01:01:06.640 And so that's why they crushed that railroad worker strike immediately.

01:01:10.280 And so that, again, this is what we need.

01:01:12.660 We need workers to realize that we have.

01:01:15.820 And, you know, there's this thing now where AOC wouldn't join with Marjorie Taylor Greene to oppose the genocide in Gaza.

01:01:23.160 And she's like, well, she's white supremacist, whatever, you know, this whole thing.

01:01:27.040 And, you know, that's not how you organize, right?

01:01:29.100 And I experienced that when we had the anti-war.

01:01:31.540 Right after the Ukraine war started, we had an anti-war rally in Washington, D.C., and Code Pink wouldn't join it.

01:01:37.980 Code Pink, their whole thing is the biggest war.

01:01:39.860 And they wouldn't join it because there were certain speakers on the lineup that they didn't feel agreed with their views on LGBTQ. 0.62

01:01:49.120 Oh, come on.

01:01:50.480 Are you serious?

01:01:51.280 And I'm like, so that revealed, and I love Medea Benjamin.

01:01:54.420 Yeah, I do too. 1.00

01:01:55.400 But that organization just proved themselves to be a bunch of cosplaying women. 1.00

01:02:00.020 Totally fraudulent. 0.97

01:02:01.060 Fraud, because that's not how you, everybody knows that, right?

01:02:04.020 It's like, well, I'd like to stop a nuclear war, but not with those people.

01:02:08.520 You know what I mean?

01:02:09.920 So it's like, that's what gives it power when you are able to join with people

01:02:15.180 who you don't agree with on other things and vehemently disagree on other things.

01:02:19.500 and you come around a single idea,

01:02:21.360 that's what gives it the power.

01:02:22.960 If it's just people that agree with you on everything,

01:02:25.160 they can dismiss you and say, 0.99

01:02:26.520 oh, those are those crazy lefties. 0.99

01:02:28.160 But if you have these right-wingers 0.99

01:02:30.440 who don't agree with you,

01:02:31.400 that's what gives it power.

01:02:33.200 And it's like I talk about,

01:02:34.060 you know, I've been in unions all my life

01:02:35.520 and here's how you don't organize a union.

01:02:39.720 You don't go to the shop floor and say,

01:02:41.740 hey, who's here as a gun nut?

01:02:43.320 All right, you're out. 0.78

01:02:44.500 Who here doesn't agree with the trans agenda? 0.62

01:02:47.560 All right, you're out. 0.98

01:02:48.800 Who doesn't agree with Medicare for all?

01:02:52.540 Okay, you're out.

01:02:53.180 Who doesn't agree on the war?

01:02:54.320 Okay, you're out.

01:02:55.200 All right, now I'm going to organize who's left.

01:02:57.100 That's not how it works.

01:02:58.380 No.

01:02:58.600 And Christian Smalls proved that

01:02:59.980 when he organized a bunch of right-wingers

01:03:01.940 on Staten Island, a bunch of Trump voters,

01:03:04.820 to go against Jeff Bezos and the oligarchy.

01:03:07.620 That's not how you go, hey, we have a common interest,

01:03:11.260 and our common interest is against the man.

01:03:13.380 And so we can forget about those other issues

01:03:15.600 and we can work on those later.

01:03:17.580 But right now we have a bigger issue, and the bigger issue is to oppose this guy so we can get decent working conditions, we can get health care, we can get a decent wage.

01:03:26.280 That helps lift everybody's boat.

01:03:28.520 And so that's what they don't want you to know.

01:03:30.460 That's the thing that – again, that's the only thing that scares people.

01:03:33.420 And I have – my audience is made up of – and I meet them when I go out and tour the country.

01:03:38.740 I was just in Raleigh.

01:03:39.720 I was just in Atlanta.

01:03:41.380 I was just in – I was in Houston.

01:03:44.200 I was in Dallas.

01:03:45.040 I was in Albuquerque.

01:03:45.660 I go everywhere.

01:03:46.220 and disaffected Democrats

01:03:49.100 and disaffected Republicans

01:03:50.620 and the people,

01:03:53.120 the disaffected MAGA people,

01:03:54.800 there's, you know,

01:03:56.220 they feel so betrayed

01:03:57.540 and, you know,

01:03:58.800 that's that thing about, 1.00

01:03:59.480 oh, they're such idiots 1.00

01:04:00.280 and such combat. 1.00

01:04:01.120 It's like,

01:04:01.940 so if I,

01:04:02.760 like I tell them,

01:04:04.340 at least he had a track record

01:04:05.560 and at least he would give lip service

01:04:07.840 to the things that,

01:04:09.000 they wouldn't even give lip service to it. 1.00

01:04:10.980 Kamala Harris wouldn't even give you lip service.

01:04:12.860 Well, he was also being persecuted,

01:04:14.220 literally persecuted by the establishment so the idea that he would join with the establishment

01:04:19.420 against his own voters seemed like crazy that could never happen they're trying to send him

01:04:23.080 to prison for life so you're like that those were his bona fides his suffering at the hands of the

01:04:28.960 establishment you never thought he would join them at least that's my own thinking that's

01:04:32.900 exactly right in january 6 which we know exactly which we now know is a fbi psyop totally and uh

01:04:39.500 Clay Higgins exposed that and on your show, even.

01:04:42.740 Yes.

01:04:43.280 And but even before that, he was questioning the FBI director.

01:04:49.020 And how many how many FBI assets did you have inside the Capitol before the riot started?

01:04:55.280 I can't tell you that.

01:04:56.800 What?

01:04:57.680 The answer should be none.

01:05:00.080 You would think.

01:05:01.520 Yeah.

01:05:02.160 So, of course, that and so they did the same playbook in Brazil, by the way.

01:05:06.020 So, again, you don't have to be a Trump fan or a Bolsonaro fan.

01:05:09.100 to realize that if they can do it to those people,

01:05:11.620 they'll do it to anybody,

01:05:12.400 which is what I tried to tell Cornel West

01:05:13.780 when he came on my show.

01:05:14.880 I know.

01:05:15.420 And he wouldn't listen to it.

01:05:16.680 Why?

01:05:17.280 You don't think if they can do this to Donald Trump

01:05:19.280 that they're not going to do it to you

01:05:20.380 if you ever become a threat?

01:05:21.760 Or they'll do it to Bernie Sanders

01:05:23.140 if he ever becomes a threat?

01:05:24.600 Or Jill Stein?

01:05:25.980 Or anybody?

01:05:26.800 Anybody who becomes a threat,

01:05:27.740 they're going to...

01:05:27.980 They used the exact same playbook on January 6th.

01:05:31.260 They did it to Bolsonaro.

01:05:32.540 They had a fake insurgency that overtook the Capitol,

01:05:35.400 and they made it illegal for him to run for president.

01:05:37.220 The same thing they were trying to do to Donald Trump, but they couldn't because he didn't cross that line.

01:05:42.260 He didn't tell people to go.

01:05:43.440 So anyway, that and people don't realize still till to this day, people don't realize that it was the FBI did that.

01:05:52.580 The FBI is not your friend.

01:05:54.980 It's amazing what Trump did to the left.

01:05:58.460 Trump got the left to go along with the FBI.

01:06:00.880 All of a sudden, they're the good guys at the CIA.

01:06:02.520 They're the good guys.

01:06:03.600 It's amazing.

01:06:04.420 We know that the FBI infiltrates every lefty organization, and this idea that we have to worry about right-wing terrorists inside the United States. 0.95

01:06:17.640 Well, 9 out of 10, if not 99 out of 100 of those terrorist happenings are invented by the FBI, just like the Whitmers. 0.91

01:06:27.100 Exactly. 0.99

01:06:27.600 They were going to kidnap her.

01:06:29.700 Turns out 9 out of the 13 people in the van were FBI.

01:06:32.260 of course i mean this they do this with all this is over and over and over again and so you know

01:06:39.220 we're a victim of our and and the same thing with big pharma the people who went from uh from

01:06:46.740 protesting gmos at our food flipped and went for don't you question big pharma over the vaccine

01:06:53.800 how dare you don't you even question vaccines don't you are like what site that don't do your

01:06:58.640 own research, which means don't read. And it's the most anti-intellectual thing, and people just

01:07:04.340 accept it. That's what dictators do. The church didn't want you to read the Bible. You had to go

01:07:09.780 through the priesthood. That's right. That's why it didn't allow slaves to learn how to read. It

01:07:14.700 was illegal. And you got people who consider themselves liberal repeating that. Don't do

01:07:19.820 your own research. Don't look into things. Just trust the government. Trust the government and

01:07:23.500 trust big pharma. And now we know they lied about everything. And those people still don't know

01:07:27.660 anything. They still think ivermectin is a horse paste. Actually? Yes. People tell me on social

01:07:35.100 media all the time, you ruined your reputation over ivermectin. I go, did it ever occur to you

01:07:39.140 that you were lied to about ivermectin? Did it ever occur to you that it's won the Nobel Prize

01:07:43.300 for human medicine, that it's on the WHO list of essential medicines? It's been prescribed a

01:07:48.360 billion times for humans, say billions alive. Did it ever occur to you that before COVID,

01:07:53.100 they were looking at it to cure cancer? And now there's credible study after credible study that

01:07:56.920 it does cure cancer. The last one,

01:07:59.080 that 80% of the people who took

01:08:00.720 ivermectin for their cancer saw

01:08:02.840 either a complete remission, no growth in their

01:08:04.980 tumor, or

01:08:06.220 recession, or I don't know if that's

01:08:09.080 a term. 80%.

01:08:11.100 So, you've been

01:08:12.960 lied to about ivermectin, and people, well,

01:08:14.980 now Chris Cuomo will admit that he was,

01:08:17.280 he goes, well, they lied to us. Yeah,

01:08:18.960 Chris, that's why you're supposed to be the journalist,

01:08:21.200 and you're not supposed to repeat what they tell

01:08:23.320 you. Exactly. You're supposed to

01:08:25.180 actually look into it which would take five seconds for you to look it up on google what is

01:08:29.740 ivermectin but of course he didn't do that he just him and don lemon would just scoff at joe

01:08:34.220 they had to think about this they had to they had to color joe rogan skin green cnn did that when he

01:08:41.800 got covid to man he got better right away and he did a video they colored his skin green you know

01:08:46.700 that right oh of course yeah so that's what a threat that's a threat to the establishment and

01:08:51.800 so why would they do that? Why would they lie about ivermectin and say it's horse paste? Why

01:08:56.960 do you think they did that? They did that because it could treat COVID and then they couldn't get

01:09:01.460 their emergency use authorization for the vaccine. That's why they did that. Same thing with

01:09:05.180 hydroxychloroquine. They wouldn't even let doctors prescribe steroids at the beginning of COVID. I

01:09:09.400 know that because my doctor told me that. And she did it anyway. She gave people and they came

01:09:14.520 to her and they go, hey, why are you giving steroids? She said, because my patients are living 0.66

01:09:17.620 and your patients are dying and so i've been i've been lucky to have good doctors

01:09:23.140 yeah and you saw it early or i got vaccine injured yeah and that's what so i wouldn't i

01:09:31.220 didn't know i didn't know that they would lie about a virus i didn't know that they would lie

01:09:34.760 about i did i bought all the stuff about vaccines and everybody i didn't i didn't know that there

01:09:39.040 was never actually a placebo test for any of the vaccines i never questioned that they give 72

01:09:44.040 shots to a baby from the time

01:09:46.160 it's a baby to the time it's 18

01:09:47.560 for a vaccine. I never questioned, why did they

01:09:50.100 give the hepatitis B vaccine, the first

01:09:52.140 shot they give to a baby? You only can catch 0.96

01:09:54.080 hepatitis from intravenous drug use or

01:09:56.040 unprotected cysts. Are there a lot of

01:09:58.120 horror babies running around hospitals?

01:10:00.120 Is that what's happening?

01:10:02.560 So, and people

01:10:04.180 don't ever think about that. I was at a Hollywood

01:10:06.120 party and I was talking to a doctor

01:10:08.360 and this is before the election. He's

01:10:10.120 where I'm really worried about RFK is going to take away

01:10:12.080 vaccines and i said to him do you know how many vaccines that you have to take now on the schedule

01:10:16.300 he's what i go 72 and his jaw hit the floor and i go you know the first one just like i said it's

01:10:20.820 hepatitis b he's like what why would they do that i go what do you think they do that for money what

01:10:25.040 do you think because they can't get people to take it so they just put it on the vaccine schedule

01:10:28.600 that's how that's how it got on there read the midwestern doctor's blog you know explains

01:10:33.040 everything the midwestern doctor's blog i just want to plug that um anyone who hasn't read that

01:10:39.820 unsubstack midwestern doctor yeah he's a i don't think he uses his name no right he's a kind of

01:10:48.540 genius and a very decent person yeah well does his own research it does his own he reads he reads

01:10:55.060 he reads studies so speaking of i just i have to ask you about this because it's not related

01:11:00.200 to anything we've been talking about but um we're talking at breakfast about carl jung

01:11:04.180 the famous psychoanalyst

01:11:08.140 who is often described

01:11:10.780 as the protege of Sigmund Freud,

01:11:12.140 but a little more complicated.

01:11:13.440 Right, exactly.

01:11:14.280 No, they're completely different.

01:11:16.060 He broke with Freud big time.

01:11:19.100 In fact, Freud disowned him.

01:11:21.420 Yes, and hated him

01:11:22.320 and was jealous of him.

01:11:24.200 Who was he?

01:11:25.240 Why do you read him?

01:11:27.480 So Carl Jung, by the way,

01:11:28.680 it's very interesting

01:11:29.720 how it connects to COVID

01:11:31.040 because he realized

01:11:33.460 is that your psyche has a need for the sacred and the religion.

01:11:38.240 And he said, if you don't have that,

01:11:39.780 if you don't have a connection to that,

01:11:41.520 that you will project it outward.

01:11:44.060 And that's exactly what happened.

01:11:45.300 So, you know, liberals, the people I know in Hollywood,

01:11:48.300 they're not, you know, spiritual, religious.

01:11:51.760 And so they turn science into a religion.

01:11:54.180 Yes.

01:11:54.520 And they turn Fauci into their deity.

01:11:56.920 And so you can't question it.

01:11:58.320 You can't question religion. 0.93

01:11:59.280 You're a heretic.

01:11:59.900 So you can't question science.

01:12:01.060 Don't do your own research.

01:12:01.980 Don't read the Bible.

01:12:02.640 don't read the read all that it's a say it was this and I saw it happen right in front of my face

01:12:07.140 and so Carl Jung is he was way ahead of his time and so uh we had we share the same birthday which

01:12:14.120 he would say is a synchronicity um but uh I had a quote from him on my fridge for years and I never

01:12:22.580 understood it and and but it stayed on your fridge yeah because I guess I had a feeling there was

01:12:28.120 some too and he said you know about enlightenment doesn't come from imagining forms of light it

01:12:32.220 comes from making the darkness conscious and until you make the darkness conscious it will

01:12:37.060 control your life and you'll call it fate and so it's all about all the parts of ourselves that

01:12:42.720 are split off and we put into our unconscious or our shadow self and then we project it so the

01:12:48.860 things we hate the most and the things we love the most are really a religious experience and

01:12:54.660 religious meaning rejoining so we project a part of ourselves that's in our unconscious

01:13:00.360 onto another person.

01:13:03.220 And that's why you see the people

01:13:04.800 who were the most animated in their hatred for Trump

01:13:07.480 had Trump in their shadow, right?

01:13:09.720 That's the part of them that they,

01:13:11.520 you know, Keith Olbermann,

01:13:12.660 you know, people, those kinds of people, right?

01:13:14.260 So they have that.

01:13:15.460 And so they project it

01:13:16.460 because that's the part of themselves

01:13:17.620 they hate the most, right?

01:13:19.700 And so same thing when you love something,

01:13:21.740 like when a male falls in love,

01:13:23.660 that, you know, love at first sight,

01:13:25.040 that's you're projecting a thing called your anima. 1.00

01:13:27.460 That's your female side 1.00

01:13:28.680 that's in your unconscious 1.00

01:13:30.780 and you project it onto another person

01:13:32.580 and you feel that like you're being energized

01:13:35.140 from the inside because you are.

01:13:37.820 And then you get married

01:13:40.080 and then of course the projections fall off

01:13:41.900 and you're like, who's this person I married?

01:13:43.400 That's what happens to a lot of people, right?

01:13:45.840 And that's what happens in midlife, right?

01:13:48.340 A lot of guys in midlife,

01:13:49.760 they have an anima projection

01:13:51.280 and they feel like I can't live without this person

01:13:54.220 because it's a connection to their own soul.

01:13:57.040 Your anima represents your soul.

01:13:58.680 And so it's, and you're like, well, how could I, how could I, you know, disavow my own, this, this relationship? Because it feels like if I do, I'll die. And it's their first connection to their own self, a religious rejoining of their conscious mind with their unconscious mind.

01:14:14.940 And so Carl Jung knew we had a soul, knew there's a God, which Freud was totally against all that. Freud was afraid that people would not take them seriously and dismiss them as mystics and whatever. And Jung wasn't. Jung had mystical experiences. He had direct experiences of the divine.

01:14:36.360 and he saw the people at the clergy when he was a kid that didn't he saw that they didn't he he

01:14:42.760 knew he had a direct experience if you read memories dreams reflections he talks about his

01:14:47.540 autobiography yeah he talks about how he the clergy they were just they were all empty especially his

01:14:52.900 father and he would when he would question it his father was like he didn't have answers and he

01:14:58.440 didn't want him to talk about it and uh and he could see how empty they were that they was there

01:15:03.100 was just dogma that didn't they didn't have direct experience of the divine and he did

01:15:08.080 and i've had that uh since i started um reading young and i said so i've been going inward

01:15:16.320 right so young says he looks outward dreams he goes inward awakens and so i have a direct

01:15:25.200 connection to the divine i've had uh numinous experiences and um what's a numinous experience

01:15:32.960 Annuitous, it's like a sacred spiritual happening

01:15:39.160 that kind of happens to you against your own will.

01:15:42.300 And it takes you over, right?

01:15:44.840 And I experienced that when I quit smoking pot.

01:15:47.460 People are like, why did you quit smoking pot?

01:15:48.640 I'm like, I don't know.

01:15:49.980 I felt like there was some outside force telling me to do it.

01:15:52.400 And it was hard.

01:15:53.680 So people who say that marijuana isn't addictive, it is.

01:15:56.080 I was at least six months before I could sleep.

01:15:59.120 And it was horrible.

01:16:00.000 I was in bad shape.

01:16:00.840 and i just i just knew i had to quit how did you know i i just again like i said i just had this

01:16:07.060 outside i felt like there was something guiding me to do this and so i did and um you know your

01:16:13.800 dreams are your psyche or as you would call it the self with a capital s meaning um you know the

01:16:21.600 divine talking to you and speaking to you in symbols and we share a collective until you have

01:16:27.700 a you have a personal unconscious right the things that you personally split off from your own

01:16:34.020 personality and put in your unconscious and your shadow and then you have a collective unconscious

01:16:38.500 which joseph campbell also talked about yes and uh he was the my first entree into this was joseph

01:16:43.940 campbell and he talked about how you know different societies who had no way of connecting with each

01:16:49.820 other uh use the same symbolism to explain life and the spiritual literally in a way that's spooky

01:16:55.880 spooky shocking and Jung figured that out that we had uh we have a collective unconscious meaning

01:17:02.660 there's only one consciousness right so you're not there's not uh your consciousness and then

01:17:08.340 the god conscious there's just one consciousness and we're a part of it and the fact that you think

01:17:13.960 you're separate from it is a mistake and so we're part of it and as we evolve our consciousness

01:17:19.980 uh we evolve the world's consciousness right because we all share a collective unconscious

01:17:24.820 and one of the ways he figured it out was that um he would have dreams and there would be symbols

01:17:30.320 in his dreams and he didn't know what they meant but he could tell that they were meaningful

01:17:34.880 and then he he was reading about the alchemists now everybody thought the alchemists were trying

01:17:40.380 to turn lead into gold but what they were really trying to do was turn psychological lead into

01:17:44.920 gold and they had to do it hide it from the church and so he they had figured out what some

01:17:49.780 of these symbols meant and he saw them write about the symbols that he was seeing in his own dreams

01:17:53.820 and he was like oh my god i'd never read this before how would i know about this symbol to

01:17:58.980 show up in my so that's when he started to figure out that we all share a consciousness yes that

01:18:03.680 there is one consciousness there's the one and uh so it's it's pretty heavy get glimpses of that

01:18:10.140 i think occasionally people in the course of daily life get just a flash that somehow there's

01:18:16.840 a connection between all peoples there there's only you know it's like it's like we're hairs on

01:18:23.160 the human head thinking we're separate right they're all you're all part of the same head

01:18:26.500 you're all part of the same body it's all we're all part of the same consciousness there's only

01:18:29.760 one and so um and we've you know split ourselves off from it we split that into our unconscious

01:18:35.880 and so if you go into your unconscious and one of the great ways is to go into your dreams

01:18:40.520 and and and and see what they're saying to you and treat it and you know like Rumi said um what

01:18:47.340 you seek seeks you. And so the more attention you pay to your unconscious, the more it will rise up

01:18:54.600 to meet you. And so I've had numinous experiences. I've had this experience the divine. I've

01:19:02.060 experienced my encounters with archetypal figures in my dreams that have guided me.

01:19:07.760 How did quitting smoking pot after so many years affect your dreams?

01:19:10.960 well they became way more vivid and more often really oh yeah yeah and so i'm gonna mean i so i

01:19:18.840 speak with a youngian uh psychoanalyst once a week and he used to be the head of the young

01:19:25.660 center in in los angeles and he's remarked to me you know often um that you know you're one of the

01:19:32.660 most prolific dreamers that i've ever encountered and often when i'm telling him about dreams he'll

01:19:38.080 just go, oh my God. Like he says that a lot. And, uh, so it's been a real awakening. And I realized

01:19:45.440 that, uh, I'm not separate from the divine. I realized that I'm not this body, um, that I have

01:19:52.040 an eternal soul. And even though this body dies, that I don't die, uh, that death is the, not the

01:19:58.940 opposite of life. Death is the opposite of birth. Life has no opposite. It's eternal. And so once

01:20:05.600 you realize that it changes a lot of things like what uh it changes how i look at everything i look

01:20:11.780 at the oneness of everything i look at this isn't permanent uh this this body is not permanent that

01:20:19.040 i have an everlasting soul that i have to pay attention to that i have to get in touch with

01:20:23.420 and fills my life with real meaning and um you know part of it too is this is your most radical

01:20:30.340 position of all the radical things you've said since we sat down this is the most counterculture

01:20:35.220 thing you could say well people think they need a priest or they need a preacher or a church which

01:20:40.120 is all good the community is good um but you don't need them because you already have a connection to

01:20:46.020 the divine within you and that's where you need to go and once you realize that then you don't

01:20:50.380 need them that's which is why they don't tell you about that and jesus said that where did he say

01:20:56.620 the kingdom of heaven is tucker the kingdom of heaven is in you yes you are the light of the

01:21:01.860 world and what i do you will do and greater and and and people they don't they don't need you to

01:21:08.080 know that which is why they get rid of the parts of the bible that tell talk about that kind of

01:21:11.420 thing and uh so it's it's uh i i i was a you know i was a sam harris atheist for a while i was a

01:21:20.360 grown-up catholic went to catholic school for 12 years it never spoke to me and the people who

01:21:25.600 seemed to be most catholic seemed not to really embody it you know uh and so i was

01:21:33.840 i was an atheist i thought i thought this was it this is it and when you're dead you're dead and

01:21:39.020 and now i realized no this is what changed your mind that's a big change

01:21:44.220 well i had this big dream um it all it usually starts with a big dream so i had this dream i

01:21:52.740 was kneeling down in front of my house in front of the bushes i had a fish hook on a string and i

01:21:58.260 was dragging it through the dirt in front of my bushes and i'm in my dream i'm thinking what am

01:22:02.280 i doing what am i looking for and then i saw underneath the dirt i saw it start moving like

01:22:07.600 there was an animal underneath there and i was like what the heck and all of a sudden this black

01:22:11.840 cat emerged and it was all grimy and it had like an oil-like substance on it and i'm like how could

01:22:18.120 he be even breathing? How could it be under there for so long and not be dead? And then it got up

01:22:23.700 and walked around. I'm like, well, it's okay. It's alive and willing. And so I knew that meant

01:22:29.720 something. I didn't know what. I sought out, I started reading Jung. I sought out Rebecca

01:22:37.400 Eigen, who helped me understand Jung. I got a Jungian analysis. And so that was, you know,

01:22:44.440 what you seek is seeking you. That was the divine, the unconscious telling me you're ready. You're

01:22:50.260 ready to go into your darkness. You're ready to go into your shadow. You're ready to go into your

01:22:54.140 unconscious. You don't know what you're going to find there. And it's probably going to be scary

01:22:57.660 and you don't want to find it, but it's there and it's ready for you to now take the next step in

01:23:02.580 your conscious evolution. And so here I am and I'm doing it. What kind of reaction did you get

01:23:09.980 from your friends um they don't know they don't really say you know i i don't really have these

01:23:17.340 kind of conversations very often i have them on my podcast with people uh like there's um i have

01:23:22.440 a book club where we read carl young and we go through it and we talk about it it's really it's

01:23:28.000 it's my favorite thing to do in the world if i could just do that i would just do that you would

01:23:31.800 just read carl young and talk about it carl young and talk about it because that's what it's really

01:23:36.000 all about yeah that's so different from the world you've lived in though yeah 100 yeah i again i was

01:23:45.220 an atheist i didn't know i didn't know that you know they asked carl jung is there a god do you

01:23:49.280 believe in god he said i don't believe i know because he experienced god he went from 1913 to

01:23:54.860 1917 he was you know i don't know how to describe it i've described it as he could give himself a

01:24:01.080 you know, a psychedelic trip in a way, he could somehow consciously access his unconscious.

01:24:07.660 He could meet the archetypal figures in your unconscious, your anima. If you're a male,

01:24:13.060 your soul, he would say, is your anima, which is your female, your feeling function. It's real,

01:24:19.460 and it's autonomous, and it's in your unconscious. And if you're a female, it's your anima, 0.97

01:24:24.160 which is the male counterpart. And so he encountered these figures in his, and I've

01:24:30.500 encountered some of them so i had one of those experiences so um you know it was scary it's a

01:24:36.800 scary to go into your shadow and the things you hate about yourself that you realize you've been

01:24:41.020 projecting onto other people yes and so the the idea is boy that's so that's like so familiar to

01:24:47.780 anyone who's self-aware you do we all do that yeah so the the idea is you make it conscious

01:24:54.520 this darkness this part of you that you hate you make it conscious and you integrate you don't

01:25:00.060 judge it because it's also positive in a sense you and you integrate it into your conscious mind

01:25:06.160 so you don't have to project it on anybody anymore and you're you're you're consciousness

01:25:11.360 risk you know you become so that goal isn't to become a better person the goal is to become a

01:25:16.160 more whole person and not split off from who you are and so that's a to me that's the that's the

01:25:22.900 goal to be to to make the unconscious conscious integrated and even though you might think it's

01:25:28.240 a bad part of yourself. Like, you know, I've been dealing with the unrestrained masculine,

01:25:33.060 right? Which causes fights and me to be extra aggressive when I don't need to be.

01:25:38.180 But you need that part. You need to be able to set boundaries. You need to be able to

01:25:42.160 be angry when you need it. But you need to be aware that where it's coming from,

01:25:46.800 so it doesn't come out sideways and wreck your life. And even if you think it's negative,

01:25:52.360 it's good in a sense for instance right so the part look i always give the example of um so like 0.99

01:25:59.640 you have this you know you have shit in your unconscious that stuff is smelly and dirty i 0.98

01:26:03.860 don't want to know that's part of me but and what helps a rose grow you need manure yes and so out 1.00

01:26:11.760 of manure comes a beautiful rose so you just have to know how to use it right just like electricity

01:26:16.880 um if i don't know i'm not an electrician so if i tried to wire your house it'd burn down

01:26:22.600 yes right but if somebody knows how to do it it'll light up the whole house in the whole world

01:26:26.400 right so you got to know how to use it and so it's that power so that darkness comes creativity

01:26:31.680 and it also can help you blossom and so you need so it's the idea again is to become whole

01:26:37.000 and um that's and most people don't do and it's hard work because you don't want to see

01:26:42.920 And a lot of guilt comes with it, right? Because you find out that in your past, you've done things that hurt your own soul and you feel guilty about it. And I've had that, right? Where I realized through my dreams that I've prioritized career or material possessions over my own soul.

01:27:06.920 and the overwhelming guilt that i felt in my dreams and jung talks about this that part of

01:27:14.880 becoming conscious is being able to handle guilt and i just i was like oh my god and so um it's

01:27:22.600 it's people don't want to do this work because it's painful right and they don't teach this and

01:27:26.440 they teach uh they teach freud because it's easier teach materialism they don't get it they

01:27:31.960 don't teach jung carl jung was about you know your soul and your religious experience your

01:27:36.900 numinous experience, the encounter with the divine. And if you don't have that,

01:27:41.400 you're going to project it just like people did during COVID.

01:27:45.100 It does seem, I'm not alleging a conspiracy, but there is a concerted, organized effort to

01:27:50.740 eliminate any consideration of the transcendent, the eternal, the divine from people's consciousness.

01:27:57.300 Like it's never mentioned, it's considered a crackpot even to talk about that. The idea that

01:28:02.460 there's you know a world that we can't see that's meaningful that we're connected in any way

01:28:07.760 other than physically i mean it i don't think there's ever been a society as determined to

01:28:13.880 deny the eternal as ours is well there's this guy i i his name is bill donahue and he's dead now but

01:28:22.840 um he talked about um that everybody says they believe in the in you know spirits and the lord

01:28:31.540 and the Holy Spirit and angels.

01:28:34.120 And then when they show up, you're like, oh, it's crazy.

01:28:36.620 Right, no, exactly.

01:28:39.340 And I was like, yeah, that's exactly what they do.

01:28:42.600 But just don't forget, the kingdom of heaven is inside you.

01:28:45.740 It's not outside you, it's inside you.

01:28:47.820 You are the light of the world.

01:28:51.020 When did this come to you?

01:28:53.760 It was right before COVID, right when COVID started,

01:28:56.960 I had that big dream.

01:28:58.320 And then I started to go into my unconscious.

01:29:00.140 do you notice people around you starting to ask questions have thoughts like this

01:29:05.000 it does feel like more people are thinking i have noticed you know unfortunately yes but

01:29:11.100 they have questions but they they seek it you know the answers in the wrong places you know

01:29:16.500 and they go into organized religion and i think you know again i'm not i'm not here to put down

01:29:21.080 religion i think people need community um but you know too often it's a it's about um control

01:29:29.120 and that you need to get to God,

01:29:32.080 you need to come through me,

01:29:33.640 which is, you don't need anybody or anything.

01:29:37.300 You have a connection to the divine

01:29:38.740 and it's inside, it's not external.

01:29:41.920 Everyone feels that on some level.

01:29:44.160 Okay, so I want to end by asking-

01:29:45.360 And I'm not an expert on any of this stuff, by the way.

01:29:47.620 Oh, I'm not either, oh my gosh.

01:29:48.540 I just know what I've experienced.

01:29:50.220 It's just kind of weird speaking

01:29:51.300 of the collective consciousness

01:29:52.360 that a lot of people I know, like more than 10,

01:29:56.300 started having thoughts like this right around

01:29:59.160 or just before COVID.

01:30:01.500 Okay.

01:30:02.200 Almost like people were being prepared

01:30:04.240 for what was coming

01:30:05.820 and gaining a new vocabulary

01:30:08.240 with which to explain it and understand it.

01:30:11.000 People who had never thought about anything like this at all,

01:30:14.580 who were totally wrapped up in material concerns,

01:30:17.140 like the ones you mentioned,

01:30:18.700 accumulating wealth, succeeding at work,

01:30:20.800 you know, just whatever, what we're trained to do.

01:30:23.120 A lot of people I know all of a sudden are like,

01:30:25.100 hmm, praying, maybe that's a real thing.

01:30:29.180 Maybe I should listen to voices whose sources I can't see,

01:30:33.900 stuff like that.

01:30:35.300 Yeah, again, Carl Jung realized at a young age

01:30:40.840 that he had thoughts that he didn't think himself

01:30:42.860 that were placed in his head by God,

01:30:44.980 and he had a direct experience with God.

01:30:48.620 And so I've had those experiences,

01:30:51.460 um and not only um do i experience god in my dreams uh but i realize that everything is a

01:31:00.120 reflection of god everything is god in my conscious life and my unconscious life god is

01:31:04.520 everywhere everything the kingdom of heaven is laid upon the earth but the eyes of men don't see

01:31:09.120 it so um it's now you know now is the time to to meet god to know the divine and to know your you

01:31:19.620 know your true uh identity it's it's it's scary you know to to to do that i had this dream um

01:31:28.260 i had several dreams that completely changed my life one of them

01:31:34.100 at the beginning i was scared you know of this journey and um i was in the jungle there was a

01:31:40.960 clearing in the jungle and i was sitting there and out from the jungle came this like it was

01:31:46.760 like half human, half ape, but the head was like a lion. And I was like, and it came over to me

01:31:53.340 and it put his hand out. And I was like, oh, it's going to crush me. You know, I was afraid,

01:31:57.920 but it took my hand very gently and walked me into the jungle. And I'm like, what the hell

01:32:04.260 is this? And a couple of weeks later, I'm reading a book and there was that symbol that the lion

01:32:13.080 face, the half face. I'm like, what? And it's a Mithraic, it's called a Mithraic God. And so

01:32:18.740 that's part of the collective unconscious. That's like this archetype that we all share

01:32:22.600 in our collective unconscious. We have one consciousness that we all share. And I'm like,

01:32:26.600 oh my God. And so I interpreted that to mean that it's okay. It's going to be safe to go into the

01:32:34.540 jungle of your unconscious and I'll be there with you to help you and guide you. And so that was

01:32:42.460 just one thing i have many things like that that's one of them and when i saw that picture i'm like

01:32:46.940 oh my god that was thinking of my dream and so that's one of those things i had no knowledge of

01:32:51.040 that i've never seen a picture of that before i never and but there wasn't my dream in a meaningful

01:32:56.240 way that's why it was wild i know people think you're crazy when you talk about this stuff no

01:33:02.080 yeah on one level for sure it's it's forbidden it's way more forbidden than criticizing israel

01:33:07.880 i mean this is the actual no it's true though this is the actual third rail i think is to admit

01:33:14.360 that you've had experiences with the divine or with a realm that's not physical or people are

01:33:20.240 like come on now but everyone knows it's true yep and again i go back to everybody you know 0.98

01:33:27.820 believes in the holy spirit everybody believes but then when it shows up like oh what are you nuts

01:33:31.920 you think you talk to spirits and you know stuff like that yeah other countries are different it's

01:33:37.760 like yeah of course of course you do so let me just ask you about this country or the west more

01:33:41.760 you know the liberal democracies um that resemble ours every one of them is coming apart every one

01:33:48.720 of them has reached kind of the end of a life cycle they're not serving their people at all

01:33:52.960 all of this is this whole project is being they've become the fascists that they were supposed to be

01:33:57.940 i mean they're canceling elections when they don't turn out the way they want exactly exactly you

01:34:02.280 know they're they're they're doing austerity now in europe and germany and they're ratcheting up

01:34:06.880 for a war with Russia.

01:34:08.300 Jeffrey Sachs just wrote

01:34:09.300 an open letter to Germany,

01:34:12.500 like, hey, stop this.

01:34:13.460 Oh, I know, I know.

01:34:14.780 And they'll ignore him.

01:34:16.000 And of course they will.

01:34:17.400 Yeah, what a good man he is.

01:34:18.820 Yeah, liberal democracy

01:34:21.000 has turned out to be

01:34:21.660 neither liberal nor democratic.

01:34:23.420 They're illiberal.

01:34:24.220 They're illiberal and undemocratic.

01:34:26.380 Just like they proved during COVID.

01:34:27.880 Yes, exactly.

01:34:28.860 They immediately censorship, 0.93

01:34:30.640 shut up, don't ask questions, 0.64

01:34:31.940 don't talk against the establishment 0.98

01:34:33.660 and take an experimental

01:34:35.340 medical treatment

01:34:36.160 against your own will or you can't go to work,

01:34:38.080 you can't travel, you can't go to school. 0.77

01:34:40.860 That's Nazi stuff. 0.96

01:34:42.260 Oh, of course. 0.97

01:34:42.860 And again, if it works, you take it.

01:34:45.040 Why do you need me to take it so the medicine works on you?

01:34:48.240 That never made any sense.

01:34:49.600 It will never make any sense.

01:34:50.680 Because actually, it's not your body or your choice.

01:34:53.220 Well, they stopped saying.

01:34:54.280 So you stopped.

01:34:55.220 You noticed that around COVID,

01:34:57.000 they stopped saying I'm pro-choice

01:34:58.400 and they literally started saying I'm pro-abortion.

01:35:01.160 I know.

01:35:02.820 That's what I was like.

01:35:03.760 I'm out.

01:35:04.200 whatever this is, is too dark for me. But okay, so all of this, I think, thanks in part to your

01:35:12.300 tireless efforts for the past six years, is now pretty obvious to most people who are paying

01:35:16.620 attention that this system is fake. It's not serving its intended beneficiaries. And it's

01:35:21.800 kind of over. So then the question becomes, well, what next and how do we get there? And the two

01:35:26.480 potential paths are violent revolution, which I'm opposed to, or somehow using this broken system to

01:35:33.520 improve or replace the broken system yeah and what well larry fink is afraid of a violent

01:35:41.300 oh revolution they're all afraid of it he he said that they they're going to start drone bombing

01:35:45.880 these data centers he's afraid of that oh i know yeah yeah because they because they know how hated

01:35:51.740 they are you know and they they did and jeff jeff bezos did this softball interview if you would

01:35:57.220 see nbc last week or two weeks ago and he talked about how if i pay more taxes it's not going to

01:36:02.400 help the nurse in Queens and all that stuff. And he goes, if I do my job right, it's going to help

01:36:07.520 people more than my philanthropy. Oh, really? If you do your job right? You know what the turnover

01:36:11.500 rate in an Amazon Fulfillment Center is? 150%. Yeah, 100 to 150% every year. So that means every

01:36:21.000 eight months, 100% new workers. And so why do one third of your workers, the richest guy in the

01:36:27.080 world, are on government assistance? Why am I subsidizing your employees?

01:36:30.680 exactly right same you know same thing you hear about walmart same this is the country we've

01:36:34.960 evolved into when you have a government by the oligarchs for the oligarchs and the workers get

01:36:40.240 screwed so that's where we're in and exactly what i said before the oh bless you the only way to do

01:36:46.800 this is if people realize that they have a common humanity with their neighbor don't fall for it 0.99

01:36:52.180 that your neighbor is the white supremacist nazi uh racist that you have to oppose and that they're 0.97

01:36:58.420 the enemy no they're again suffering under the same conditions you're suffering under join with 0.98

01:37:03.860 them oppose those people the wef globalists who actually run everything you know it's funny people

01:37:09.320 talk about communism you don't get choice people think back to but capitalism has led us to the

01:37:14.700 same thing there's three companies that own everything vanguard state street and black

01:37:18.920 rock that's the real boss so trump has a boss they all and i try to tell people that you know

01:37:23.740 the congress is that they're not doing when they get they're not doing the bidding when they have

01:37:27.940 a session of congress people go oh do you think they have secret meetings where they plan this

01:37:31.320 stuff well yes actually they do uh it's called davos it's called the bilderbergs we now we know

01:37:36.760 that's real that people just think that was crazy big time but but i go i used to say it's no it's

01:37:41.900 just a session of congress you think when they get together they're doing the bidding of students

01:37:45.460 or workers or the elderly they're in there doing the bidding of the oligarchs the the donor class

01:37:50.480 the people who actually run their bosses and it ain't you that's just a fact that's no longer i

01:37:58.760 don't think there's a single word you just uttered that could be quibbled with even it's just it's

01:38:02.900 all proven now but because it is proven that means it can't continue under the current terms

01:38:08.600 so i don't think given everything you've said you want violence but is it inevitable like how do we

01:38:16.060 get out of this well john f kennedy said those who make a peaceful revolution impossible make

01:38:20.460 violent revolution inevitable, right?

01:38:22.900 Or some version of that.

01:38:24.100 Well, that's certainly true.

01:38:25.240 And so, you know,

01:38:25.980 we have more guns in this country than people.

01:38:27.960 Yep.

01:38:28.580 So, in a sense, that's good

01:38:30.100 because the government's supposed to fear the people

01:38:31.760 not the other way around.

01:38:32.780 Exactly.

01:38:33.360 When you fear your government, that's tyranny.

01:38:34.960 And right now,

01:38:35.660 I think people do fear their government.

01:38:37.280 Yes.

01:38:37.620 Again, I'm not calling for a violent revolution,

01:38:39.720 but I think if workers come together,

01:38:45.280 you have to shut down the machine.

01:38:47.940 And if you can shut down the machine

01:38:49.180 in a meaningful way,

01:38:50.460 If all the truckers stop trucking, if all the railroad workers stop going to work, port workers, that's how you gain control of your.

01:38:58.380 But you see, they give them the port workers, they give them a nice contract right before Trump got into office.

01:39:02.100 So they see it coming. Right. And so they're good. Oh, we don't want them to get upset.

01:39:07.680 We don't want them. So or if all the teachers didn't go to work, if all the grocery store workers didn't go to work, you know, that's the only way.

01:39:15.660 If you if anybody else has another idea, let me know. I'll be all for it.

01:39:19.160 But to me, that's the way that history proves

01:39:21.900 that you can have peaceful revolution.

01:39:25.260 Yeah, I would just correct you on the note, teachers.

01:39:27.020 We actually did have a time for over a year

01:39:29.700 when the teachers didn't go to work

01:39:30.860 and the people in charge really enjoyed it 0.98

01:39:32.860 because ignorant kids mean more viable kids. 0.93

01:39:37.260 But true critical functions, if they stop working, 0.97

01:39:43.580 maybe will force people to pay attention, I guess.

01:39:46.780 Yeah, remember who the essential workers are?

01:39:48.600 Right.

01:39:48.800 It's not middle management.

01:39:50.180 No.

01:39:51.600 Is it the consultant class?

01:39:54.160 No, it is not.

01:39:54.960 Oh, it's not?

01:39:55.540 It's not the professional managerial class.

01:39:57.360 It's not?

01:39:58.120 What about the private equity people?

01:39:59.640 No, no, they are not essential.

01:40:02.000 You couldn't, I don't even know if you could have a tax protest now because the government isn't funded through taxes.

01:40:07.480 Right, they just print the money.

01:40:08.860 Exactly.

01:40:09.080 Did you see that video where they asked, I forget the guy's name, but it was Joe Biden's economic advisor.

01:40:14.600 And someone said, hey, if we print our own money, why do we borrow it?

01:40:17.620 and he was like for five minutes he's like well that's good oh we print money we definitely print

01:40:22.640 money we definitely borrow money and he goes i don't know that's a good question he couldn't

01:40:27.700 answer the question you ever see that video no yes i've actually wondered myself i wonder it too

01:40:33.980 if they could just create money quantitative easing they just invent it because they don't

01:40:38.360 give that money to you no it gives you the banks and and so what people don't realize people fear

01:40:42.740 socialism because they fear it's going to take money from the haves and give it to the have-nots.

01:40:48.720 But what our version of capitalism has done, this oligarchy, it's an upward transfer of wealth.

01:40:54.940 That's what happened during COVID. How many billionaires got invented? And it's continuing.

01:41:00.100 It's an upward transfer of wealth from the working class to the oligarchs.

01:41:05.960 That's where we're in right now with three companies that run everything.

01:41:08.980 so again i don't see that as overstatement like i think that's just true what you said

01:41:15.040 so i don't know i'm very concerned because i do think the people who are benefiting are so rich

01:41:23.900 that's what i have the main thing i know is how rigid they are they can't handle any disagreement

01:41:27.460 whatsoever right no like teddy roosevelt rolls in and he's like a product of the ruling class

01:41:32.520 he is the ruling class he becomes president by default the president's assassinated 1901 and

01:41:37.480 he becomes president he's like look this system will collapse unless we give a little bit and he

01:41:44.140 was the only president american history able to make that case and he kind of did adjust it enough

01:41:48.960 that it continued another well 125 years yeah but i don't see the current rulers as capable of that 1.00

01:41:57.580 kind of subtlety or sacrifice or nuance or or even just like intelligence they're too stupid to 0.99

01:42:03.440 understand they're screwing themselves by being this rigid that's my view well it's the you know 0.99

01:42:10.240 also fdr saw that there was a revolution of the workers and he was afraid that he told his ruling

01:42:15.520 class hey this is coming here big time if you don't give people some of your money if you don't

01:42:20.480 give them some of their money they're going to take all of your money yes and so he gave people

01:42:23.600 jobs he created the jobs program and uh created social security and ccc yes and things like that

01:42:29.120 But then they also, at the same time, went on a tear to get rid of the communists, right?

01:42:33.660 Yeah.

01:42:34.020 And because they were a very force for...

01:42:36.260 So not that anybody's for communism, but you need that kind of counterbalance.

01:42:40.580 And the economic populace above all.

01:42:42.400 That's right.

01:42:43.000 Exactly.

01:42:43.100 So Huey Long somehow gets assassinated before the 1936 presidential campaign by his own bodyguards.

01:42:49.600 Kind of weird.

01:42:50.200 Uh-huh.

01:42:51.060 Sorry, excuse me.

01:42:54.200 But either Roosevelt, you know, they're different.

01:42:59.120 But like they had the same impulse, which is this system is out of whack and it's going to get taken down by force unless we adjust it a little bit.

01:43:09.560 And I don't see the current I don't see Larry Fink is capable of doing that.

01:43:12.500 Do you not quite the opposite?

01:43:14.840 It's more, you know, capitalism always at the end stage devolves into fascism, which is where we are.

01:43:22.300 The surveillance state, these data centers, flock cameras, they built 80 billion dollars for ICE.

01:43:28.360 to get the illegal immigrants. 0.85

01:43:30.780 By the way, they're not. 1.00

01:43:31.900 I know.

01:43:32.960 So what is that police force?

01:43:34.920 It's for you.

01:43:35.940 Of course.

01:43:36.600 Right?

01:43:37.020 And so when you wake up,

01:43:38.240 and so now they're going to make you a terrorist.

01:43:40.440 You're going to be an anti-technological terrorist,

01:43:43.940 just like they had eco-terrorists,

01:43:45.800 people who...

01:43:46.320 And so you're going to be the terrorist,

01:43:47.980 and those prisons are for you

01:43:49.020 because they're not getting... 1.00

01:43:49.720 They want the illegal immigrants here 1.00

01:43:51.400 because they want cheap labor. 1.00

01:43:52.640 That's always a joke. 0.99

01:43:53.560 They're not getting rid of them.

01:43:54.940 That's all...

01:43:55.320 All that stuff where they're shooting people,

01:43:56.920 that's all for show.

01:43:57.920 right that's not that you are the target and that's what those prisons are for and you know

01:44:03.440 we got their own private gestapo called ICE and what could go wrong you take 50,000 TGI Friday

01:44:09.060 bouncers and give them guns masks and unmarked cars and turn them loose well because the truth 0.96

01:44:14.280 is that illegal immigrants you know the guys like hiring at a day rate out of you know Home Depot 0.98

01:44:21.560 parking lot you know there's a lot of drunk driving but in general not that unruly a group 0.80

01:44:27.240 Correct. Those are people looking to work.

01:44:29.160 You know who's unruly? It's like you. You're unruly.

01:44:31.680 No, I'm serious. You're born here. You have a birthright.

01:44:35.240 You feel totally entitled to demand that your government serve your interests because you own the government.

01:44:39.920 You're a huge problem. And you and people like you.

01:44:43.980 Well, that's why they tapped into my phone using Pegasus.

01:44:47.300 Actually?

01:44:47.900 Yeah, that actually happened. So when I spoke at the UN Security Council, I did it via Zoom.

01:44:53.500 I was in Italy at the time, and it was on the anniversary of the Nord Stream pipeline bombing.

01:44:57.900 Oh, yes.

01:44:58.880 And so they asked me to speak Russia.

01:45:03.000 And so I accepted, and I gave a speech, and I gave it to them. 1.00

01:45:06.640 You know, like, you're all dupes and idiots if you think that this was done by Russia, 1.00

01:45:10.880 and the fact that, you know, Germany would bend their knee and let them to wreck their own economy. 1.00

01:45:15.360 Now they're paying two and three times higher for energy, and to go along with this, and you're all morons. 1.00

01:45:20.000 And I basically used that language. 0.99

01:45:21.960 And so on the plane ride home, I had my laptop.

01:45:24.880 At that time, I used to travel with my laptop.

01:45:27.260 I don't anymore.

01:45:28.200 And it said, MacBook The now controls your iCloud account.

01:45:33.400 And I was like, what?

01:45:34.180 What is this?

01:45:34.740 I don't even know what the heck.

01:45:35.960 So I get off.

01:45:36.700 I call my IT guy, who is a former military intelligence, right?

01:45:42.660 And his whole job is to try to crack into a company's computer system to find vulnerabilities.

01:45:47.820 So I call him and I tell him, I go, hey, did this happen?

01:45:49.900 And he goes, oh my God, Jimmy, even I couldn't do that.

01:45:52.660 And I said, what, what?

01:45:53.900 And so I give him my computer, I give him my phone.

01:45:57.140 And he said, that was Pegasus.

01:45:59.140 And I go, well, who did this?

01:46:00.240 He goes, it wasn't a person.

01:46:01.920 No.

01:46:02.500 This was a state actor.

01:46:04.240 State, yeah.

01:46:05.040 And I was like, and so it happened immediately

01:46:06.640 after I testified at the UN Security Council.

01:46:11.000 And so that's why I have two phones now, right?

01:46:12.920 So one's the phone.

01:46:13.820 So now they got me, Tucker.

01:46:15.420 By the way, if I ever become a threat, they got me.

01:46:18.260 They either have all my compromising material and my iCloud on my computer, on my phone, or they planted something.

01:46:25.360 So they got me, right?

01:46:27.580 So you'll know if I'm arrested or if some big scandal comes out, it's because I now have become an actual threat.

01:46:36.880 No, that's so true.

01:46:38.140 I did an interview with Glenn Greenwald the last summer here, and he was tough on the foreign policy questions and tough on Netanyahu.

01:46:48.260 literally the next day.

01:46:50.740 That's exactly right. 0.81

01:46:51.880 This tape comes out of a super embarrassing Glenn Greenwald sex tape,

01:46:55.560 which I didn't watch, but I just want to say how much I love Glenn.

01:46:59.620 Those aren't connected?

01:47:01.040 Of course.

01:47:01.700 The first person to defend him was Charlie Kirk,

01:47:06.280 which is just incredible.

01:47:08.880 Charlie Kirk, the new Seth Rich.

01:47:10.220 You're not allowed to ask questions about that. 0.99

01:47:12.040 Charlie Kirk is the evangelical, pretty darn anti-gay, 0.98

01:47:15.820 and then Glenn Greenwald comes out 1.00

01:47:18.220 with a gay sex tape 0.99

01:47:20.160 and Charlie Crook is the first guy to be like, 0.99

01:47:22.640 Glenn Greenwald's a good man.

01:47:24.740 Man, I thought that was,

01:47:25.980 ah, it makes me emotional thinking about it.

01:47:27.960 Yeah, I mean, Charlie had started to have an awakening.

01:47:30.860 Oh, you think?

01:47:31.540 He had a lot younger than I had it.

01:47:33.660 Yeah. 0.98

01:47:33.940 And so that's why they had to kill him. 0.67

01:47:35.900 And when I say they, I mean multiple. 0.96

01:47:38.280 There was a conspiracy to kill him.

01:47:39.640 It wasn't some guy, Tyler Robinson,

01:47:42.780 with his grandpa's rifle, which was never fired,

01:47:45.380 which is why they couldn't find that rifle.

01:47:48.020 You have to swallow so much stuff

01:47:49.940 to believe the story

01:47:51.900 that the establishment is pushing

01:47:53.280 for Charlie Kirk's assassination.

01:47:55.300 You have to think that this,

01:47:56.720 first of all, a .30-06 bullet

01:47:58.220 didn't take his head clean off

01:47:59.780 or leave a drive-through window

01:48:00.740 in the back of his neck.

01:48:01.580 Somehow he had a miracle.

01:48:03.380 His miracle bullet, remember that?

01:48:05.780 Hey, can you give me an explanation

01:48:08.180 of why his head didn't blow off

01:48:09.300 without a miracle?

01:48:11.520 Do you have an actual explanation?

01:48:13.340 No.

01:48:13.600 so uh but it goes back to so this guy gets to the campus he he drives three all of a sudden he wakes

01:48:20.420 up one day and goes you know what i'm going to commit the biggest public assassination in the

01:48:23.680 last 60 years he drives to the campus he finds the open stairwell it's an open nobody's there

01:48:28.880 he he brings the gun up but it's too big so he has to take it apart and put it in his backpack

01:48:33.420 still too big for his backpack so he has to put it down his pant legs is what they tell but then

01:48:37.240 if he did he couldn't jump go up the steps because he couldn't bend his knees so i don't know how he

01:48:40.800 got it up there nobody will tell me so he gets up there and then he changes his clothes he's up on

01:48:45.100 top of that roof for 10 minutes that's according to the governor he was up there for eight to 10

01:48:48.760 minutes nobody sees him the cops don't see him the million dollar security team doesn't see him

01:48:54.000 nobody sees him except people in the crowd did see him and they don't tell you that people just

01:48:58.400 like in butler pennsylvania people in the crowd saw him guess who didn't see him the cops the

01:49:02.400 local cops the state cops the secret service people see him so um and then he like so he puts

01:49:08.200 the gun together. He lines up the shot, puts a scope on it. By the way, if that scope was on it,

01:49:12.320 he couldn't fire that gun because of the save. Anyway, so he lines it up, takes the shot, hits

01:49:16.320 it. Perfect. Perfectly. Takes the gun apart, leaves the screwdriver there, puts it under a

01:49:22.300 towel. Spider-Man's his way off the top of a building, runs across campus with the gun apparently

01:49:27.060 under a towel. Nobody sees this. He runs into the woods, puts the gun back together again without

01:49:31.700 the screwdriver. He's a regular MacGyver, this guy. And then he hides the gun in the backyard

01:49:36.620 of a house owned by Palantir.

01:49:38.280 And if you think anything else besides that, 1.00

01:49:40.560 you're a crazy Jew-hating conspiracy nut. 0.99

01:49:45.800 Do you know that they had the gun-sniffing dogs, right? 1.00

01:49:52.080 Which they can sniff a gun

01:49:54.120 that was fired a week earlier in the rain, right?

01:49:56.960 They were looking all over.

01:49:58.100 They couldn't, they didn't find it.

01:49:59.560 The FBI shows up.

01:50:01.400 A minute later, we got the gun.

01:50:03.440 Did you know that?

01:50:04.280 No.

01:50:04.660 Yeah, you could.

01:50:05.600 Baron Coleman's been doing great work on this,

01:50:07.260 and he got the police transmitter, all that stuff.

01:50:10.560 He got that.

01:50:11.240 That's available.

01:50:12.680 And so it wasn't until the FBI showed up.

01:50:14.660 Oh, well, we got it.

01:50:15.720 The local police couldn't find it.

01:50:17.480 And the dog sniffers couldn't find it.

01:50:19.280 They can find it.

01:50:20.460 And they couldn't.

01:50:21.220 But then the FBI showed up, but they found it in the exact place.

01:50:24.320 So, and now they wouldn't even release that to the defense team.

01:50:27.400 They're still holding God to it.

01:50:28.640 And then, of course, then he decides to text his lover.

01:50:32.480 instead of waiting for him to get home it's only a three-hour drive he's like you know what he said

01:50:36.980 i wanted to take this i wanted to take this secret to my grave first of all he talks like he's

01:50:41.340 reading a he's writing a jane austen novel my love and then he says uh i wanted to take this 0.93

01:50:48.840 secret to my grave but fuck it i'm just gonna i'm just gonna leave it here on a text message to you 0.96

01:50:56.520 so the FBI can find it. 0.99

01:50:58.340 And so what was supposed to happen

01:50:59.800 was he was supposed to go out in a blaze of glory

01:51:03.340 because the original text messages that they said he wrote

01:51:06.340 said, I don't want to go to prison.

01:51:08.440 I'm not going to go out.

01:51:09.540 I don't want to be dragged through the courts.

01:51:11.360 I'm going to go. 0.99

01:51:11.980 So he was supposed to get shot just like in Butler Crooks. 0.99

01:51:14.740 He was supposed to get killed. 0.93

01:51:16.200 He didn't.

01:51:17.640 He went and turned himself in, which screwed up their plan.

01:51:21.060 And so they had to rewrite those text messages.

01:51:23.920 Did you know that there's text messages one

01:51:25.780 and text messages 2.0.

01:51:27.260 So they had to rewrite this.

01:51:28.900 Yeah, that's all.

01:51:30.320 And they said that he confessed on Discord or on Reddit.

01:51:35.040 And of course, now we know for a fact

01:51:37.700 that he was already in custody

01:51:39.080 when they said that he did that.

01:51:40.880 So what guy shows up, turns himself in,

01:51:43.200 pleads the fifth,

01:51:43.860 I'm not talking to the cops until my lawyer gets there.

01:51:45.780 But then he goes on the internet and gives a confession.

01:51:49.140 Okay, so this is obviously a setup

01:51:51.160 and you're not allowed to ask questions about it.

01:51:52.980 And if you are, you're you are attacking a grieving widow. And that's again, when did Jackie O ever say quit looking in? Stop. Quit looking into who killed my husband. Never. That's not what happens. And that's not how you grieve. By the way, I remember when my dad died, my mom immediately bought a gold sequined pants outfit.

01:52:10.080 started carrying sparklers around and selling t-shirts. And my friends are like, Jimmy,

01:52:14.420 what's with your mom? I'm like, she's grieving. So I'll just leave that there. And so, you know,

01:52:20.800 Dan Bongino, who famously said, don't ever stop talking about the Epstein files. He gets in a

01:52:27.960 position of power to do something about it. And now he changes his tune to say, oh, I'm supposed

01:52:32.840 to, I was there to do my job, which is to keep custody of the evidence. No, you weren't there

01:52:37.680 to keep custody of the evidence you were there to put in custody for the people who are in that 0.98

01:52:42.380 evidence you fucking phony anyway i i get upset you have every reason to so we're being lied to 0.97

01:52:49.980 on a massive scale the one guy who was credited with stopping the iran war the first time they 0.99

01:52:55.180 had to get him out of there and he had realized that he'd woken up and his his uh his organization 0.52

01:53:00.480 is a zionist operation as it was from the beginning and he woke up to that he was living 0.82

01:53:06.440 in a Truband show and he ordered 0.93

01:53:08.360 he orders an investigation

01:53:10.720 a Doge style investigation

01:53:12.760 into the accounting because there's all

01:53:14.420 if you look into it, Wolves of Finance

01:53:16.740 is a YouTube channel who's really explored

01:53:18.760 all this about all the shady

01:53:20.500 financial stuff that was happening inside

01:53:22.400 TPUSA so they all had motive

01:53:24.760 to not only be a part

01:53:26.900 of it but to cover it up

01:53:28.260 and so he

01:53:30.700 orders that, he turns down their money

01:53:32.980 they all 0.99

01:53:34.700 lie that he said they're going to kill me

01:53:37.240 Candace Owens proves that the text messages were there.

01:53:40.040 And by the way, why does the FBI not have control of his phone?

01:53:43.340 Why would they give it to his phone?

01:53:44.440 None of it makes sense.

01:53:47.400 So this is all a big PSYOP. 1.00

01:53:49.120 It's a Zionist organization. 0.98

01:53:51.260 He had realized that. 0.79

01:53:52.500 He had realized what Zionism was. 0.94

01:53:54.360 He realized that Israel was not in our best interest, that they're not our greatest ally. 0.97

01:54:01.020 And so they tried everything. 0.95

01:54:02.420 and some reports said they were offering

01:54:04.720 a billion dollars to his organization

01:54:06.680 and he turned it down, and if you can turn that

01:54:08.900 down, there's only one thing left to do 1.00

01:54:10.500 and that's to kill you 1.00

01:54:11.460 and it's sad 1.00

01:54:14.320 and just like Seth Rich, you're not allowed

01:54:16.700 to ask questions, and when you're not allowed to ask

01:54:18.520 hey, if Candace Owens is 1.00

01:54:20.620 crazy and nuts, then let her talk 1.00

01:54:22.640 give her enough rope to hang herself 0.99

01:54:24.180 keep it going, just like Brian Harple did on that

01:54:26.560 CIA guy's podcast

01:54:28.100 gave him enough rope to hang himself, and he hung himself

01:54:30.680 several times

01:54:31.560 on that. What a used car salesman

01:54:34.000 that Brian Harpo is. I spent

01:54:35.800 thousands of dollars on. They didn't have drone coverage.

01:54:38.040 He pretends they didn't have drone coverage.

01:54:39.880 Well, Frank Turek says they

01:54:41.820 were watching the drone coverage on their own phones

01:54:43.780 as they pulled up to the event. So they're

01:54:45.900 lying back and forth all over the place.

01:54:47.820 They didn't have security watching the roof.

01:54:50.820 They don't have security watching

01:54:51.920 the roof. Well, the local police were supposed to take

01:54:53.900 care of that. Okay, get that. Okay.

01:54:55.720 So it's a

01:54:57.660 setup. It's a lie.

01:54:59.560 And just like Seth Rich and Charlie said, just like we learned during COVID, keep asking questions because it's the only thing that keeps us free.

01:55:08.640 And now they've completely flipped his message.

01:55:10.920 Stop.

01:55:11.820 Just stop.

01:55:12.860 Stop asking questions.

01:55:14.460 That was his whole MO.

01:55:15.920 That was his whole motive.

01:55:16.940 That was the reason for his raison d'etre was ask questions.

01:55:20.340 Exactly.

01:55:20.800 And now you're not supposed to.

01:55:22.060 And I tell people, you see these social media influencers out there telling you that Candace is evil or demonic and stop.

01:55:30.560 It happened exactly the way Kash Patel said it did.

01:55:33.400 If anybody's telling you that, they are corrupted on the take and they're your enemy.

01:55:37.460 And do not listen to them because those people are not there to help you or to help bring you information.

01:55:42.940 They're there to propagandize you and keep you shut up and compliant.

01:55:47.420 The great Jimmy Dore. 0.76

01:55:48.980 Wow, you just wound me up.

01:55:50.980 Okay.

01:55:51.380 i'm gonna need to walk around thank you okay it's great to see you as always god bless you you too

The Tucker Carlson Show - June 05, 2026

Jimmy Dore： Charlie Kirk’s Murder, Thomas Massie & Finding God Through the Propaganda Hellscape

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