The Tucker Carlson Show - Jimmy Dore： Trump’s MSG Rally, WaPo Refusing to Endorse Kamala, & Why Trump Winning Is Essential

00:00:00.000 But weren't you surprised that Jim Gaffigan going after the Democrats at the L. Smith dinner?

00:00:05.120 Because he's got Trump derangement syndrome, and I couldn't believe the shit he was saying.

00:00:09.380 Really?

00:00:10.040 You remember?

00:00:10.540 Do you remember the jokes he did?

00:00:11.640 He goes, the media and the Democrats say that democracy's on the ballot, and they have to protect it.

00:00:18.060 And they had to protect it so much, they did a coup.

00:00:21.640 And I was like, fucking Jim Gaffigan.

00:00:24.660 And he's not for Trump?

00:00:26.140 No, he's Trump derangement syndrome.

00:00:28.520 In fact, I used to, you know, kind of sub—so I know him, and he never would talk about politics because he wants to have the biggest audience.

00:00:38.220 But Trump, he can't—I can't bite my tongue.

00:00:41.860 I've got to say something, you know?

00:00:43.620 And I was like, you know, the time to say something was when Barack Obama was ruling as a neocon, a tool of Wall Street.

00:00:51.820 And that's what made workers desperate enough to vote for Donald Trump.

00:00:56.720 That's when you should have said something, when the Democratic Party stopped being Democrats.

00:01:01.860 But now you're going to say something, you're upset at the symptom instead of the disease.

00:01:06.360 At the result of what you allowed.

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00:01:35.800 Here's the episode.

00:01:37.780 So that was actually something I thought a lot about last night at the fascist rally that I spoke at.

00:01:44.420 It was so huge.

00:01:47.740 And I know, you know, Trump is always talking about his crowd size and, you know, there's a debate about it.

00:01:51.880 But last night there was no debate.

00:01:53.060 I mean, it was crazy.

00:01:54.900 It just—Midtown was just like a mass of people.

00:01:57.580 Yeah.

00:01:57.920 It was like Times Square and New Year's Eve.

00:01:59.740 Yeah, I was there.

00:02:00.340 I was in Manhattan yesterday.

00:02:02.600 I saw it.

00:02:03.080 Yeah, I was on my way to some kind of peace rally or something in the valley hosted by Scott Ritter.

00:02:10.640 Oh!

00:02:11.100 Judge Napolitano was there.

00:02:12.940 Oh, I love Judge Napolitano.

00:02:14.620 So the crowd was just so overwhelming yesterday that I did ask myself, like, I think Trump's going to win, just objectively.

00:02:24.420 I want him to win, but I think he's going to win.

00:02:27.180 But then I thought if I were the Democrats, I would pause and ask, like, what is this?

00:02:32.720 It's not just that, you know, half the country is evil.

00:02:35.740 Maybe there's more to it.

00:02:36.800 Does anyone ever stop?

00:02:37.780 I mean, I try and understand, why do people love Obama?

00:02:40.180 Why do they love Biden?

00:02:41.100 I mean, I do try to wonder—I mean, I think you should.

00:02:42.860 They're Americans, right?

00:02:44.140 I understand why people liked Obama or loved him.

00:02:47.080 Me too.

00:02:47.420 I totally agree.

00:02:48.560 He made me feel good when he spoke.

00:02:50.240 Of course.

00:02:50.560 You know, even though I was aware of the things he was doing, when he gave his speech, I'm like, I feel a little bit better.

00:02:56.280 You know, he was really good at that.

00:02:57.780 100%, and every American's like, you know, slavery really was bad.

00:03:00.580 And, you know, there are the disparities between black and white in here.

00:03:04.180 Like, all these white people voted for a black president, maybe we're going to move beyond that.

00:03:08.260 I mean, we could stop talking about race and start talking about economics.

00:03:10.920 That's what I—okay, that's what I thought, just personally.

00:03:13.700 Not that I'm a race-guilt guy.

00:03:15.060 I'm not.

00:03:15.580 But I would like to have a conversation about something real, like economics and war.

00:03:20.200 That's exactly where I'm at.

00:03:21.700 And that's—so I had this guy on, Michael Parenti's son, Christian Parenti, wrote this paper recently.

00:03:28.000 And it was about the birth of wokeness.

00:03:30.780 Like, some people think, you know, it started, you know, five minutes ago.

00:03:33.780 Some people think it started 20 years ago.

00:03:36.160 He said it started after World War II and was the coming together of the NGOs, like the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, with the intelligence community.

00:03:48.080 And what they did—like, they didn't have a problem when Martin Luther King wanted to integrate lunch counters because that didn't cost them anything, you know?

00:03:55.240 But when he shifted against the Vietnam War, and then he did a poor people's march on Washington, D.C.

00:04:02.520 He didn't do a black people's march.

00:04:04.480 Right.

00:04:05.360 He did a poor people's march.

00:04:07.180 And that's—and, of course, you know, they killed him when he was supporting a sanitation strike, right?

00:04:11.720 So it was the economics.

00:04:13.680 And so it's been the goal of the NGOs and the intelligence community to decouple social movements from the class analysis and the class and the economics and just push it all into culture.

00:04:30.900 And that's been forever.

00:04:33.360 And I'm like, you know, I mean, they—it's like anti-war.

00:04:38.940 In the 60s, they used to be regular people, buttoned down.

00:04:42.380 Right.

00:04:42.600 And then all of a sudden, it was all hippies and the smelly people.

00:04:45.200 Charles Manson.

00:04:46.420 That's right.

00:04:47.380 Yeah.

00:04:47.520 And so that's—I mean, that's not—so—and now it's led up to this.

00:04:53.020 And I sniffed this out about the trans issue, right?

00:04:56.180 Because everybody was on board with gay rights.

00:04:59.020 Everybody—you know, they went in the 90s.

00:05:01.060 They used to be second-class citizens, and now they're not, right?

00:05:03.820 Right.

00:05:04.320 And—but so then they had to—and I saw that the head of—that Fink, the head of BlackRock, right?

00:05:11.340 Larry Fink, yeah.

00:05:11.840 Larry Fink.

00:05:12.200 I saw him giving this—I'm like, oh, that's what this is.

00:05:15.060 He was—Larry Fink is a trans rights activist now.

00:05:17.340 Oh, all those—I'm like, this son of a bitch is—so he's out there raping the planet

00:05:22.560 and screwing over workers and the middle class.

00:05:25.900 100%.

00:05:26.380 And so he gets to wrap himself in this patina of virtue by saying, I'm for trans rights,

00:05:31.800 and we have to force it down people's throat.

00:05:33.720 I mean, basically, I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically what he said.

00:05:36.860 And that's when I knew what was happening, because this is not a grassroots.

00:05:40.240 This didn't come from the grassroots up.

00:05:42.000 And this is something that even turns the gay community against each other.

00:05:46.700 Of course.

00:05:46.740 So this is all about divide and conquer.

00:05:49.780 And it's been about—so that's what wokeness is about.

00:05:52.780 It's about divide and conquer.

00:05:54.700 And it didn't just start.

00:05:56.380 It's been going on since World War II.

00:05:58.540 And the last thing they want you to do is have a class analysis.

00:06:03.040 And that's what—so why is it the people who voted for Bernie Sanders then voted for Donald Trump, right?

00:06:08.260 There's a class analysis that would go along with that.

00:06:11.260 Michael Moore, of all people, in 2016—I don't know if you ever saw, there's a video of him giving that speech about why do you think that these people aren't all racist?

00:06:20.520 These people are—these are people who voted for Barack Obama twice.

00:06:23.640 These are people who voted for Bernie Sanders.

00:06:25.280 Why are they attracted to Donald Trump?

00:06:28.660 Because he stood there and said, if you ship their jobs to Mexico, I'm going to put a tariff on you and you're not going to be able to sell a car.

00:06:35.980 And that no other politician would say something like, this is Michael Moore giving that analysis, right?

00:06:40.520 And so you haven't heard him say that stuff since because he got spanked, right?

00:06:44.680 Okay, so there's so many threads here, and I want to get to that because I'm fascinated by it.

00:06:47.720 AOC, same thing.

00:06:49.260 And a couple of others who should be—I don't know, Trump supporters necessarily, but they should be making common cause with Trump on the promise of a fair economic system.

00:07:03.220 And they're not, and why?

00:07:04.600 But let me just get back to your great point that this—that wokeness was used as a tool by the people making the most money going back 80 years.

00:07:12.940 Yes.

00:07:13.280 So this is why Malcolm X had a short lifespan, right?

00:07:15.820 That's right.

00:07:16.140 Right.

00:07:16.520 Exactly right.

00:07:16.820 So if you actually listen to Malcolm X's speeches, they're not about race.

00:07:21.260 Well, he went and had an awakening.

00:07:23.120 Exactly.

00:07:23.860 He had an awakening.

00:07:24.520 It's like, oh, there's white Muslims.

00:07:26.840 Exactly.

00:07:27.480 And he realized that that wasn't the game.

00:07:29.680 And as soon as that happened, he had a short life.

00:07:32.720 And so same thing when Martin Luther King decided it was about class and not about race.

00:07:37.580 No, they want it to be about race.

00:07:39.540 And so you've seen the studies, I'm sure, that, you know, after Occupy Wall Street.

00:07:43.580 So you had the Tea Party, right?

00:07:47.640 They were upset about what happened during the economic crash in Wall Street and the government bailing them out and kicking people out of their houses and making sure the—

00:07:56.580 You know, the way I said it was Barack Obama made sure the bankers got his—their bonuses while he kicked 5.1 million families out of their homes.

00:08:04.700 Not people, 5.1 million families.

00:08:06.560 And then you find out that he got more money from Wall Street than John McCain did.

00:08:10.900 And you find out that—

00:08:12.400 Did he really?

00:08:13.280 Yes.

00:08:13.920 And that every—there was an email from Wall Street, from Citigroup, to the Barack Obama campaign with a list of people they wanted in his cabinet.

00:08:22.460 Every person on that list ended up in his cabinet.

00:08:25.520 And the reason I know that, because that got released by WikiLeaks, and that's why they've been trying to kill Julian Assange ever since.

00:08:31.840 And so they all are working.

00:08:33.420 You know, he wasn't a departure from George W. Bush, Barack Obama.

00:08:36.740 No.

00:08:36.840 Just his skin color.

00:08:37.580 He took us from two wars to seven.

00:08:39.920 He was—he gave us a right-wing health care plan, which was—came out of the Heritage Foundation, which is the same people I gave you, Project 2025.

00:08:47.720 And, you know, he gave us Mitt Romney's health care plan.

00:08:51.280 So—and he deported all those—it's—he dropped more bombs than George Bush, and nobody noticed.

00:08:57.720 And that's why they wanted to have Kamala Harris.

00:08:59.960 That was their first choice.

00:09:01.140 The donor class was Kamala Harris was their—they thought we'd have a female Barack Obama.

00:09:05.960 And that's a good face for imperialism, right?

00:09:08.900 Because we have a black woman bombing and stealing resources and doing neoliberal and neocon policies.

00:09:15.360 That's perfect.

00:09:16.300 And that she couldn't get a vote.

00:09:17.740 So then they had to go to their second most reliable person, which was Joe Biden.

00:09:22.240 That's exactly how it worked.

00:09:23.420 I don't know if you remember, but they coronated her on Martha's Vineyard.

00:09:26.760 She's going to be our candidate.

00:09:27.900 And they thought they had the black Barack Obama, but she couldn't get a vote.

00:09:31.340 She has no political talent, right?

00:09:32.860 And so then they forced her on Joe Biden as the vice president.

00:09:36.460 And then, of course, they did a coup.

00:09:37.760 Just like Jim Gaffigan said at the Elle Smith dinner, they had the debates way earlier than they normally would.

00:09:44.580 So they would give them enough time to install Kamala Harris.

00:09:47.840 And that's exactly what happened.

00:09:49.700 So I don't know how I got off on this tangent.

00:09:51.340 But, yes, that's and that's the oh, we know that after Wall Street, after Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party, then the major newspapers, the mentions of racism and white supremacy.

00:10:04.560 People have studied this.

00:10:06.260 I'm not making this up.

00:10:07.380 I'm just quoting studies and went through the roof.

00:10:09.680 And why is that?

00:10:10.420 That's because, as Chomsky taught us, the newspapers aren't there to inform you.

00:10:14.100 They're there to manufacture consent.

00:10:15.760 And one of the great ways to manufacture consent for the establishment is to divide and conquer.

00:10:20.260 It's been there ever since World War Two.

00:10:22.620 It's been divide and conquer.

00:10:24.060 And that's exactly what they did.

00:10:25.320 So they got everybody hyper.

00:10:27.260 That's what identity politics is.

00:10:29.540 And it's got everybody who you identify with your skin color.

00:10:32.640 You identify.

00:10:32.940 It's the opposite of Martin Luther King.

00:10:34.660 It's the opposite of judge someone by the content of their character.

00:10:38.020 And so now everybody's identified with their gender or their sexual preference or their skin color or their ethnicity.

00:10:44.560 And they got us all siloed off and split up.

00:10:47.220 But what we need to do is what Christian Smalls did on Staten Island when he started the first labor union for Amazon, right?

00:10:56.320 So here's a black guy on Staten Island.

00:10:58.800 And what is he doing?

00:10:59.660 He's organizing a bunch of Trump voters to go against Jeff Bezos and the machine.

00:11:04.360 And he won, right?

00:11:05.960 And he didn't do that by saying, hey, who here's a gun nut?

00:11:09.040 All right, you are out.

00:11:10.000 Who here supports the trans?

00:11:11.540 You don't?

00:11:12.060 You're out.

00:11:12.780 OK, who here?

00:11:13.740 No, that's not how you organize, right?

00:11:15.840 Who's left?

00:11:16.700 OK, now I'm going to organize with the rest of you.

00:11:18.780 That's not how it works.

00:11:19.680 You go, we have an economic interest.

00:11:22.540 We share a common economic interest.

00:11:24.840 And we share a common enemy.

00:11:26.200 And that enemy is Jeff Bezos and the establishment who's with me.

00:11:30.160 And they were with them.

00:11:31.120 And, you know, the funny thing is, when you win a union like that or you win economic gains

00:11:39.680 for everybody, the people who disproportionately are benefited are the people of color.

00:11:45.960 You know, if you give—black people have more medical debt per capita than white people.

00:11:49.820 If you give everybody health care, that's going to help them more, right?

00:11:53.540 So you give everybody health care, it helps the trans community.

00:11:56.960 You get—so that's the—you give everybody a living wage, a strong union.

00:12:00.960 That helps everybody more.

00:12:02.740 And the people who are more disproportionately helped are the people who you normally consider

00:12:07.580 the most vulnerable in your society.

00:12:09.700 So that's the irony.

00:12:10.860 But they want us fighting over things that just help your little—you fight over trans

00:12:15.940 rights, fight over reparations, fight over this, instead of fight over something that

00:12:20.000 helps everybody.

00:12:21.380 And that's what the—so that's what divide and conquer is.

00:12:24.020 And that's why we are where we are, Tucker.

00:12:25.540 Well, it's such a smart analysis, and I just want to say for the record, I agree with

00:12:29.460 every single word that you said.

00:12:32.340 But two—first, it's just incredibly easy to divide people, you know, from outside.

00:12:39.180 It really is, especially along the lines of immutable characteristics, because they don't

00:12:44.800 change, and so the conflicts tend to be irresolvable.

00:12:47.620 I mean, you can go from a Bernie voter to a Trump voter to a whatever's next voter.

00:12:51.700 You can change your—you cannot change your skin color.

00:12:53.380 And so once you create those divisions, like, they're permanent, and you wreck your society.

00:12:59.220 But I just detect in your worldview something that you don't see very often, which is universalism.

00:13:04.840 Your instinct or your sense of the world seems to be based on the idea that there are principles

00:13:10.140 that apply to everyone, regardless of what they look like.

00:13:14.360 And I thought that's—I mean, that's what Western civilization was based on.

00:13:18.740 That's Christianity, by the way.

00:13:19.880 But I don't see people approaching questions with that assumption as much anymore.

00:13:26.440 No, because they're propagandized to do the other.

00:13:30.780 And, you know, the American people—I've said this, my friend.

00:13:35.160 Nick Cruz says this.

00:13:36.280 Americans are the most propagandized people in the entire world, and they don't have any idea that they are.

00:13:41.780 You know, at least people in China know they're being propagandized.

00:13:44.500 That's right.

00:13:44.820 The people in the old Soviet Union knew it was propaganda.

00:13:47.800 People in America turn on Anderson Cooper, turn on Rachel Maddow, Sean Hannity.

00:13:53.660 They think they're getting the truth.

00:13:55.060 They really do.

00:13:56.300 They think, you know, hey, don't you think it's a little weird when Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow

00:14:00.220 are saying the exact same thing about Ukraine?

00:14:02.980 Don't you think that's weird?

00:14:05.540 Well, yes, in fact, I did.

00:14:07.500 It's funny you mention that.

00:14:08.660 Yeah.

00:14:09.120 And so, you know, I try to remind people that, you know, that you got fired not because you were

00:14:16.540 going along with the wars and telling the lies of the wars.

00:14:19.620 When you were going along with the Iraq war, they couldn't give you enough TV shows, right?

00:14:23.460 You were on CNN, MSNBC.

00:14:25.600 Your number one guest was Rachel Maddow.

00:14:27.420 Then you had the number one show on Fox.

00:14:29.160 It was when you started to tell the truth.

00:14:30.880 They don't fire you for lying about wars.

00:14:34.360 They don't.

00:14:34.840 They fire you for telling the truth about the wars.

00:14:37.320 And that's just the same reason why Julian Assange was in prison.

00:14:40.740 He wasn't in prison because he lied about the war machine.

00:14:44.100 He was in prison because he told the truth.

00:14:46.460 And that's what people need to realize.

00:14:47.840 And I try to, I ask people when I have these conversations with my old liberal friends

00:14:52.580 from Hollywood, the ones who still talk to me, and I'll say, is there anything you hear

00:14:57.900 on cable news that you don't believe?

00:14:59.860 Is there anything?

00:15:01.100 And you know what?

00:15:01.740 They never say anything back.

00:15:03.900 They never say, well, I don't believe that.

00:15:05.800 They never say anything.

00:15:06.940 They just change the subject or move on to something else.

00:15:09.420 You really think they're just accepting the whole sandwich?

00:15:11.820 Yes.

00:15:12.220 Just swallowing without chewing, just.

00:15:14.260 Yes.

00:15:14.780 And that was the, you know, the beginning of the end for me was when I wouldn't go along

00:15:20.040 with Hillary Clinton because I was a big, I've always been a liberal progressive and I supported

00:15:25.800 Bernie Sanders.

00:15:26.680 I thought we were really close to doing something at that convention in 2016 in Philadelphia.

00:15:31.500 I was there and you walked into the convention hall and half the people in there wanted to

00:15:36.580 overthrow the Democratic establishment.

00:15:38.880 Half the people there wanted to get corporate money out of politics.

00:15:42.220 And there was lots of friction.

00:15:43.860 They were turning the lights out.

00:15:45.360 They were using sound can.

00:15:46.460 The whole day was, and it really felt like we were about to do something.

00:15:50.300 Right.

00:15:50.600 And then I went to the last convention just this year in Chicago and it was like a Stepford's

00:15:57.460 Wives convention.

00:15:58.300 It was brainwashed, brain dead, go alongs.

00:16:01.340 Nobody had a thought in their head.

00:16:03.460 No, there was, there's cheering on billionaires and cheering on the war machine.

00:16:08.820 And it was great.

00:16:10.320 From CIA director.

00:16:11.000 For billionaires on stage from, from, you know, Oprah talking about how she's a victim

00:16:17.140 of sexism and racism.

00:16:19.180 That was one of the funniest things.

00:16:20.880 That's like Oprah, since I've been in college, she's been a highly touted celebrity with her

00:16:25.000 own television show.

00:16:26.340 There might've been a time in her life when she was discriminated against, but boy, she

00:16:29.660 certainly made up for it.

00:16:30.820 And for her to be the voice of that was really disgusting.

00:16:33.760 And then you had, you know, Pritzker come on stage.

00:16:35.640 I'm a real billionaire and people are cheering.

00:16:37.680 I'm like, is this the democratic party?

00:16:39.560 The democratic party.

00:16:40.920 And so that's what happened with Bill Clinton.

00:16:42.860 How did they treat you, by the way, at the convention?

00:16:45.120 I couldn't stay there long.

00:16:46.460 I had a pass to be on the floor.

00:16:48.720 It honestly, it depressed me to the point of almost tears.

00:16:52.360 And I would go up to people, I would go up to delegates and I would say, does it bother

00:16:57.260 you that the, the, the party who's putting democracy on the ballot, uh, throughout 14

00:17:02.280 million ballots and installed, uh, Kamala Harris and to a person, they would all say there

00:17:08.260 was a process.

00:17:09.240 She followed the process.

00:17:10.820 They didn't care.

00:17:11.780 Nobody cared.

00:17:12.520 They don't care anything.

00:17:13.420 They didn't care that she didn't get a vote.

00:17:14.980 They don't care that they threw out the guy who did get a vote.

00:17:17.480 They don't care that they were lied to about his mental, uh, his dementia for years.

00:17:21.740 They didn't mind that nothing, nothing.

00:17:23.820 And they were all about, it was the only, it was, and they talk about abortion at the

00:17:29.000 convention.

00:17:29.380 Like it's a day, it's like, it's Christmas.

00:17:31.940 And, you know, like, Hey, I'm, I w I always, you know, like Bill, the old liberals, I always

00:17:37.920 was like, you know, let's, let's make a abortion safe, legal and rare.

00:17:41.600 Right.

00:17:42.420 And they're like, no, let's, let's cheer it on.

00:17:44.700 Like it's Christmas.

00:17:45.500 I'm like, that's weird.

00:17:46.820 It's like cheering on amputation.

00:17:48.320 Like, yay, you get to get your amputation.

00:17:50.220 I'm like, no, that's something that's, if you have to have it, that's, I'm glad it's

00:17:54.100 available, but that's always a sad day anyways.

00:17:57.040 So that's where, what is that about?

00:17:58.780 I really noticed that because I've been covering this stuff since 92 and Clinton, I mean, I've

00:18:04.860 always been against abortion.

00:18:06.640 I was going to say that, um, agree or disagree with me, but I, you know, I feel that way,

00:18:10.400 but I remember Clinton really kind of going out of his way to be like this, it's a sad

00:18:13.900 thing.

00:18:14.520 And, but we think in these circumstances, it should be legal.

00:18:18.760 And I'm so struck by the change.

00:18:20.740 What, what is that?

00:18:22.920 Well, uh, I had a conversation at the convention with someone who is, um, she's in this woman's

00:18:30.880 rights organization.

00:18:31.820 She was the head of it.

00:18:32.740 And I don't want to mention her name, but she, uh, I was saying, well, I've always been

00:18:36.620 pro-choice.

00:18:37.280 I don't want a G man in between doctor and a patient.

00:18:40.920 I will, I'll, I trust women.

00:18:42.620 I trust doctors to make that decision without a government stepping.

00:18:46.540 And, uh, she's like, well, that's not good enough.

00:18:48.680 You have to be pro-abortion.

00:18:50.300 And I'm like, that just seems, I'm, and I'm like, well, what's your message to someone

00:18:53.800 like me who's pro-choice, but not pro-abortion.

00:18:56.420 And she's like, well, that's a longer conversation.

00:18:58.540 I'm like, you don't have a, you don't have a message for me.

00:19:02.480 Are you sitting, she said you have to be pro-abortion, pro-abortion.

00:19:05.760 I mean, it blew me away.

00:19:07.820 And, uh, this is someone I like and respect and it's very funny and all that stuff.

00:19:12.600 But I didn't see it coming because I've been saying, cause during COVID, they went from

00:19:17.640 being pro-choice to pro-abortion, which I noticed, right?

00:19:21.640 I know because it sounds so weird coming off your lips.

00:19:25.420 I'm pro-abortion.

00:19:26.560 You're pro, no, you're supposed to be pro-choice.

00:19:28.520 You're supposed to be bodily autonomy, which they don't say anymore because they were all

00:19:32.120 for the mandated emergency medical, uh, treatment, which was COVID vaccines with no long-term

00:19:37.980 studies.

00:19:38.360 They were for making people take that.

00:19:40.060 And so that's the exact opposite of bodily autonomy.

00:19:42.980 Something that I've said my entire life.

00:19:44.940 Everybody who would call themselves a liberal has said, well, they stopped saying that because

00:19:48.260 they're not for bodily autonomy.

00:19:49.540 They're for the government being able to mandate an experimental medical treatment while they're

00:19:54.780 lying to you about it.

00:19:56.240 Uh, but they're, they're, they're pro-abortion.

00:19:58.480 And I was, so I would say on my show that nobody's pro-abortion.

00:20:01.920 And then I met someone at the convention who was, and I was just like, whoa, it still kind

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00:22:04.840 Do you have any idea what that is?

00:22:09.400 It blows me away too.

00:22:11.200 Again, and I'm coming at it from exactly the opposite perspective.

00:22:13.500 I've always disagreed with a pro-choice position, but I also thought when I would listen to

00:22:19.940 Clinton, I'd be like, I get it.

00:22:21.280 I get why people feel, you know, 13-year-old girl raped, she's got a disabled, you know,

00:22:25.040 the baby's disabled.

00:22:25.860 I mean, I understand why people are like, yeah, she should have an abortion or have the right

00:22:29.940 to.

00:22:30.960 This is such a different message, and I just don't know where that came from or why.

00:22:36.320 It's just really striking to me.

00:22:38.100 It's dark.

00:22:39.240 Super dark.

00:22:40.200 I think it's super dark.

00:22:41.420 Yeah, but those are the same people who can turn their head at the genocide happening

00:22:46.600 in Palestine and say things.

00:22:49.700 I mean, I would turn to people who are liberal their whole life, and I'm like, so you stand

00:22:54.300 with the people of Palestine, right?

00:22:56.520 And they're like, Kamala's not the president of the Middle East.

00:22:59.340 They'll say things like that.

00:23:00.820 And I'm like, what?

00:23:02.180 But she is funding it.

00:23:03.560 And it's like, well, Trump is going to be worse.

00:23:06.460 What is he going to do?

00:23:07.460 Dig up the dead babies and kill them again?

00:23:09.400 You know, if Trump is worse, then we deal with Trump when that happens.

00:23:13.300 But right now, you cannot reward what the Democratic administration is doing, what Kamala Harris

00:23:20.100 and Joe Biden, you cannot reward them with your vote.

00:23:22.480 You have to make them pay a price.

00:23:24.540 You have to influence them.

00:23:26.500 And that's why now every Muslim mayor in Michigan came out, and I'm pretty sure just endorsed

00:23:31.880 Donald Trump.

00:23:32.400 And so you're going to wag your finger at those people.

00:23:36.200 I've seen people, they go, well, Trump's going to go house to house.

00:23:41.260 I work with immigrants, and Trump's going to go house to house and kick them out.

00:23:45.920 And I'm like, so you're prioritizing the immigration status of migrants over the literal slaughter

00:23:53.020 of Palestinian children.

00:23:54.580 That's morally repugnant.

00:23:55.980 And as, you know, Thomas Frank said in Listen to Liberal, you know, when you listen to these

00:24:01.000 people moralize, it's stomach churning.

00:24:03.280 And that is stomach.

00:24:04.000 It's like you're just bending yourself in a press.

00:24:05.880 There's nothing.

00:24:06.380 So there's no red line.

00:24:07.420 I have a red line.

00:24:08.320 My red line is genocide.

00:24:10.120 And, you know, Kamala Harris could come get my vote.

00:24:13.520 You know, if she said, hey, you know what?

00:24:14.880 I'm not going to do.

00:24:15.740 I'm not going to fund Israel anymore.

00:24:17.400 That's their problem.

00:24:18.360 Or it's something.

00:24:19.720 She won't do it.

00:24:20.560 And so if you're if you're willing to go along with that, there's no doubt you're not voting

00:24:25.140 for a lesser evil.

00:24:26.340 You're just voting for straight up evil.

00:24:27.880 And you're doing mental gymnastics to make yourself feel better about it.

00:24:31.740 People have to lie to themselves about Donald Trump, the same establishment that venerated

00:24:36.580 him my entire life.

00:24:38.240 He was on every magazine cover, invited on every late night talk show.

00:24:41.680 He hosted Saturday Night Live.

00:24:44.120 Hollywood gave him his own national television show for 10 years.

00:24:47.460 They gave him Emmy nominations, right?

00:24:49.760 And Oprah loved him.

00:24:51.280 The view kissed him on the lips.

00:24:52.760 They loved him.

00:24:53.240 Everybody loves Donald Trump.

00:24:54.820 Stephen Colbert loved him.

00:24:56.500 He would say, look, everybody loves Donald Trump.

00:24:58.560 Thanks for running.

00:24:59.540 Stephen Colbert said to him.

00:25:01.120 And then all of a sudden, once he became pretty, he's like, you know, he's Hitler.

00:25:04.120 He's the worst thing in the world.

00:25:05.340 And if you look at what he was saying about what caused that pivot, the establishment.

00:25:10.580 So the establishment does.

00:25:11.780 Oh, they couldn't control him.

00:25:13.220 He's you know, like I've heard you say, they're afraid he's going to do one less war than

00:25:16.480 they want.

00:25:17.020 And so they couldn't control him.

00:25:19.160 And he's also, as Aaron Maté has pointed out, that he puts an ugly face on imperialism,

00:25:25.380 right?

00:25:25.600 Because now they've painted this guy as a white supremacist.

00:25:28.660 And he, you know, he speaks in a crude way often.

00:25:31.560 And he puts an ugly face on imperialism.

00:25:33.960 So it makes it harder for them to invade small brown countries and steal their natural resources.

00:25:39.200 A lot easier if it's Barack Obama doing it.

00:25:41.300 Look at what he did to Libya, like what they did to Syria, like what they did to Afghanistan

00:25:45.400 for 20 years.

00:25:46.540 Yemen, the whole deal.

00:25:48.460 So it makes it so.

00:25:50.100 But Trump makes it harder for them.

00:25:51.760 Right.

00:25:52.020 And plus, he's a wild card.

00:25:53.240 He won't he wouldn't go along.

00:25:54.700 That's why the that's why they lied about him.

00:25:56.700 That's why the CIA lied in aid of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris about Hunter's laptop.

00:26:02.780 That's why they did Russiagate, which was concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

00:26:07.680 And that's why the FBI lied to the vice vice court 17 times so they could get a phone tap

00:26:13.780 on Donald Trump's phone and his entire organization.

00:26:16.360 And they still couldn't find a crime that they wanted to impeach him over because they

00:26:20.300 had to find a crime that they weren't also complicit in.

00:26:22.580 That's why it took so long.

00:26:23.700 So, uh, so, and for me saying, you know, and I, when I had Cornel West on my show, I tried

00:26:30.900 to impress upon him that don't you see, like, you don't have to like Donald Trump, right?

00:26:35.800 I didn't vote for Donald Trump, but what you see they're doing to Donald Trump, they would

00:26:40.660 do to anybody.

00:26:41.600 And when I say they, I mean, the establishment and the handful of billionaires that actually

00:26:46.340 run the Western world and our media, they would, and, and own the Congress.

00:26:50.540 They would do to anybody who stood up, look what they did to Bernie Sanders, right?

00:26:54.540 So when there was a chance that Bernie Sanders was going to become the nominee, they immediately

00:26:59.020 rush-a-gated him.

00:27:00.080 They immediately called him a sexist.

00:27:01.640 They immediately called his followers racist and sexist and violent.

00:27:04.640 They did the exact same thing.

00:27:06.440 And that's what I tried to impress upon.

00:27:08.580 They would do this to you.

00:27:10.120 They would do this to Bernie Sanders.

00:27:11.760 They would do it to me.

00:27:12.960 They would do it to Jill.

00:27:13.860 They do it to Jill Stein.

00:27:14.880 They'll do it to anybody who they can't control.

00:27:17.400 And Cornel West's response to me was to call me a Trumper.

00:27:21.700 That was one of the saddest, that was one of the saddest days of my life.

00:27:24.600 Because I know Cornel and I, you know, it's a very, very complicated person, but in some

00:27:29.420 ways a good-hearted person.

00:27:31.600 In many ways.

00:27:32.480 Yeah, he is.

00:27:33.360 And he's smart.

00:27:34.060 He's legit smart.

00:27:34.720 But he has lived in, you know, he told me that we live in two different worlds.

00:27:37.780 And I was like, we sure do.

00:27:38.940 You live in an ivory tower your entire life.

00:27:41.900 And I've come from a blue-collar background my whole life.

00:27:45.780 And I'm out there with the people all the time.

00:27:48.020 I tour the country constantly.

00:27:49.820 And I do meet and greets and meet hundreds of people every night.

00:27:53.200 And they look at me in the eye, and some of them with tears in their eye, and they thank

00:27:58.480 me for what I'm doing and for what I'm saying.

00:28:00.520 And even though they don't agree with me politically, like, I would say half my audience is to traditional

00:28:05.840 liberals, the other half are libertarians or conservatives, and ex-military, you know.

00:28:12.860 I remember most recently I had a guy said, you know, I've served in three different countries

00:28:18.520 in three different wars, and I watched your show, and I woke up, and now I realize what's

00:28:22.400 going on.

00:28:23.340 And those are the kind of things that, you know, kind of never leave me.

00:28:26.640 I've had military guys try to give me their medals, and, you know, it's just, it's overwhelming

00:28:32.180 emotionally for me to meet these people.

00:28:35.140 And so that's what I, that's the world I come from, and that's not the world the media comes

00:28:41.360 from.

00:28:41.660 That's not the world that Cornel West comes from.

00:28:44.540 And because Cornel West is black, he kind of has a trump card where he can say, you've

00:28:49.240 never suffered like I have.

00:28:50.580 You don't know what it's like.

00:28:51.860 I don't know what it's like to live and work in Harvard and Yale and Princeton.

00:28:56.600 That's got to be miserable.

00:28:59.940 You're so, you're so right.

00:29:01.740 So let me just get back to what I wanted to ask you a couple minutes ago, which is the

00:29:06.580 people who should know better, and Cornel West is certainly in that category.

00:29:10.200 Well, look what happened during COVID.

00:29:11.420 That was my big beef when I had him on, because he wouldn't say a peep during COVID.

00:29:16.500 I'm like, you know.

00:29:17.400 Oh, really?

00:29:18.040 I didn't know that.

00:29:19.020 No, well, now he's, now he is saying something.

00:29:21.640 He's picked up Bobby Kennedy's.

00:29:23.800 But, you know, I was like, you know, where were you when, you know, he's always, I stand

00:29:28.560 in solidarity with workers.

00:29:29.820 And I'm like, well, they fired 70,000 health care workers in one state alone because they

00:29:33.980 wouldn't take an experimental medical treatment.

00:29:36.280 Where were you then?

00:29:37.480 Right.

00:29:38.160 41% of black owned businesses closed permanently during COVID.

00:29:43.420 Where were you then?

00:29:44.280 Where were you screaming about that?

00:29:45.640 Where was your solidarity then?

00:29:47.480 And so I don't want to pick on Cornel West.

00:29:49.900 He's got a lot of, I like him.

00:29:52.060 Oh, yeah, no, I agree.

00:29:52.980 And I like him.

00:29:53.680 But it was a very big letdown for me.

00:29:55.640 But you're right.

00:29:56.060 So my question is not even to get personal about it, or AOC is someone who, you know,

00:30:01.320 has called me a white supremacist a thousand times.

00:30:03.400 But I still look at her and I say, this is woman with, with talent.

00:30:08.440 She, I think she does have talent.

00:30:10.740 I'm sure she'll disavow me for saying that.

00:30:13.060 But she's also said a few things over the years where like, you could be closer to the

00:30:17.040 right track than you are.

00:30:18.460 But she seems to have sold out immediately.

00:30:21.220 And I would also say, not to be mean, but Bernie Sanders, same thing.

00:30:24.720 Like what, what?

00:30:26.000 And Michael Moore of all, not only was he, you know, on a populist streak and he's actually

00:30:32.900 from industrial Michigan, he's also fat, which I think is significant.

00:30:37.660 No, no, I'm not being mean.

00:30:38.340 I'm being serious.

00:30:39.320 No one in the ruling class is fat.

00:30:40.980 A lot of America is fat.

00:30:42.820 Michael Moore, like he, he seemed a little bit more real than, or potentially more real

00:30:48.280 than a lot of the spokesmen for the left.

00:30:50.700 Why is he going along with that?

00:30:52.640 Like, what is this?

00:30:53.820 Why are there no independent voices?

00:30:56.000 That's funny because he was, like I pointed out earlier in this conversation, he was the

00:31:00.660 one who gave that big speech about why regular people are attracted to Donald Trump.

00:31:05.880 And it's because they want to give an FU to the establishment that has left them behind.

00:31:09.640 And the Democratic Party has certainly left workers behind.

00:31:12.720 They crushed the railroad union strike.

00:31:14.780 All of them, the Democrats, they all did that and pretend they did and pretended

00:31:18.220 they didn't pretend that they're somehow the, they're, they're the party of the workers.

00:31:21.720 There is that, it all ended with Bill Clinton.

00:31:23.740 Bill Clinton was no friend of the working man.

00:31:25.760 He got, you know, after Ronald Reagan, he, he called up Wall Street.

00:31:29.620 They fat, the Democratic Leadership Council.

00:31:31.620 You remember that?

00:31:32.240 The DLC.

00:31:33.280 Do you remember who was on it?

00:31:34.300 They had people from the Koch brothers sitting on their board, him.

00:31:37.500 And so there was, and I mean, he gutted welfare.

00:31:41.960 He increased the police state.

00:31:46.420 He deregulated Wall Street, which came to crash the economy and hurt black and brown people

00:31:52.820 more than anybody.

00:31:53.380 Within 10 years, he did that.

00:31:55.420 He exploded the prison population.

00:31:58.600 And he had a private plan with Newt King, which to privatize social security.

00:32:02.780 But Monica Lewinsky screwed that plan up, if you read Listen Liberal.

00:32:06.720 And so he, and he, and he did NAFTA, which cut the legs out from underneath the working

00:32:11.360 unions for a generation.

00:32:13.140 These, those are things that Republicans couldn't do, which is why people like Glenn Ford in

00:32:17.180 the Black Agenda Report has said that the Democrats are the greater evil.

00:32:20.620 They're the more effective evil because they can get stuff done that Republicans good.

00:32:24.440 And you know, they've reached the Malcolm X position.

00:32:26.540 Yeah.

00:32:26.820 Uh-huh.

00:32:27.140 So George, when George Bush, the first wanted to do NAFTA, he couldn't get it passed because

00:32:32.600 there was the, uh, uh, certain Democrats in the South who wouldn't go along with it.

00:32:36.760 When Bill Clinton came in and gave them cover and then they did it.

00:32:40.540 They did NAFTA, right?

00:32:41.680 Which screwed over.

00:32:42.660 So, uh, Barack Obama, he's dropped more bombs than George W. Bush and nobody made a peep.

00:32:48.920 But how do you control critics who know better?

00:32:51.820 That's what I don't get.

00:32:52.580 And Michael Moore specifically, Michael Moore had his own franchise.

00:32:55.060 He's not dependent.

00:32:56.500 He doesn't have a cable contract.

00:32:57.980 He doesn't, you know, he was sort of outside.

00:33:00.380 And here I'm not, I'm not complimenting Michael Moore.

00:33:02.220 I'm just, but I'm just noting like the guy had talent.

00:33:05.360 He had his own income stream.

00:33:07.360 He had some insight into what was actually going along on, along the lines of what you

00:33:12.320 just said.

00:33:13.460 So how do you get Michael Moore to obey you and join forces with Larry Fink?

00:33:17.580 I think it's the same way they got Jon Stewart, right?

00:33:20.460 So Jon Stewart went on, uh, Stephen Colbert and he told the truth about where the COVID

00:33:25.640 virus came from.

00:33:27.500 Do you remember that?

00:33:28.200 Yeah.

00:33:28.360 And Stephen Colbert tried to stop him at every turn to the point where Jon Stewart had to

00:33:32.480 get up off the chair and walk directly towards the camera and finish what he was saying.

00:33:37.440 So Stephen Colbert couldn't interrupt him.

00:33:39.400 Do you remember that?

00:33:40.020 It was very well.

00:33:41.000 It was unbelievable.

00:33:41.640 And then he got, uh, completely dismantled or completely ostracized by polite liberal

00:33:48.580 establishment.

00:33:49.640 And he spent the next year trying to, uh, get back into their good graces.

00:33:54.320 That's what I think it is.

00:33:55.440 It's that, you know, we have that built into us through evolution.

00:33:58.500 You want to be part of a group.

00:34:00.080 And he was no longer part.

00:34:01.280 He even talked about it.

00:34:02.660 Like, I didn't realize that there was a right wing position on COVID and there was a left

00:34:07.560 wing and there was a conservative.

00:34:08.740 I didn't realize that.

00:34:09.800 Well, he, he freaking got his mind right.

00:34:12.020 And to make up for it, he then had to pin a medal on a Nazi at Disney world, a legit,

00:34:18.240 legit Nazi, which he's never been asked about or ever had to answer for.

00:34:22.660 He then gave Ukrainian Nazi.

00:34:24.080 Yeah.

00:34:24.540 Then he gave a, um, uh, a tongue bath to two of the biggest blood-soaked war criminals

00:34:28.900 of my lifetime, uh, uh, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton.

00:34:32.380 He did that interview.

00:34:33.400 That was just disgusting.

00:34:34.800 And then he did a vaccine panel during COVID where he brought on four vaccine liars, not

00:34:39.400 one skeptic.

00:34:40.260 He didn't bring on anybody with a counter narrative to just lie about vaccines and COVID and not.

00:34:45.580 So he was doing all these things to try to get back in good, great.

00:34:49.260 That's my theory.

00:34:50.120 That's why you're asking what happened to Michael Moore.

00:34:52.120 I think you get ostracized and he doesn't want to get ostracized.

00:34:54.820 And then the, who, who knows the money, the money dries up for your next movie.

00:34:58.220 Who knows what that, but definitely it doesn't make any sense.

00:35:00.920 That's, that's actually, that makes sense that, uh, uh, I'd love to ask him, but he, you know,

00:35:05.480 he'll never come on my shore answer.

00:35:07.060 I feel like, I think it's a great explanation.

00:35:08.880 Probably right.

00:35:09.560 I mean, I think it's probably as simple as that, you know, the, the desire not to be.

00:35:12.600 I mean, I know what it feels like to be shunned.

00:35:14.480 I know.

00:35:15.040 Right.

00:35:15.440 I, I mean, people I've known all my life speak of me in the most despicable ways.

00:35:19.880 And it's because I actually kept true to my values.

00:35:23.640 I actually, you know, I look forward to a day when the left actually criticizes and is

00:35:28.640 skeptical of big pharma and is, uh, uh, adversarial towards the government and the captured regulatory

00:35:34.800 agencies and the liars inside government, like Fauci and Collins and all those people.

00:35:40.560 I look forward to those days when we stand up against the CIA again, and don't believe

00:35:44.860 the FBI and the intelligence communities, which has infiltrated every lefty organization

00:35:49.580 and dismantled them.

00:35:50.660 I look forward to those days when they come back.

00:35:53.100 I've never left them.

00:35:54.200 They did.

00:35:54.880 They became neocon right wingers.

00:35:57.060 So I don't know if that's even the right term anymore to call people, but that's what

00:36:00.240 the people who think they're liberal now are now they're, they now state they're pro-war

00:36:04.620 they're anti-free speech, they're pro-censorship, they're anti-bodily autonomy.

00:36:09.460 And now they're excusing a genocide.

00:36:11.540 They're the exact opposite of what they think they are.

00:36:14.840 That's just, I could not improve on that.

00:36:17.560 Can I just take you back to something you said, uh, a moment ago about the 2016 election

00:36:24.920 and Bernie Sanders and Sanders was clearly, and it was also true in 2020, the democratic

00:36:31.160 candidate in the primaries with grassroots support.

00:36:34.480 I mean, he was with actual people behind him.

00:36:36.740 Right.

00:36:37.100 And he had a message that was distinct from all other messages in the democratic coalition.

00:36:42.100 And Russia gated him.

00:36:43.420 Okay.

00:36:43.680 So I think looking back when historians untangle this, you know, this mess that we've been

00:36:49.980 living in for nine years and trying to figure out what actually happened, like, how did

00:36:53.100 we wind up at war with Russia, a hot war with Russia, which we're in now?

00:36:56.580 Yeah.

00:36:56.920 I think they're going to trace it back to the leak of the DNC emails.

00:37:01.580 I just have always felt that.

00:37:02.880 What was that?

00:37:04.660 So, well, we know that, uh, so it used to be that, remember when George Bush said he met

00:37:11.120 Putin and he looked into his soul and he's a good man and that's because there was, you

00:37:15.680 know, we wanted to export our crony capitalism to Russia, which we did in a big way.

00:37:21.300 And, um, uh, there was, uh, economic interests in Russia.

00:37:25.180 Well, then the war machine had economic interests and we needed, we need a boogeyman again.

00:37:29.460 Right.

00:37:30.240 And, uh, I remember when, when, uh, Biden was pulling out of Afghanistan and there was a lot

00:37:35.480 of people who consider themselves liberal that were giving him congratulations.

00:37:39.840 Look, he's getting out, he's getting out.

00:37:41.960 And I was like, well, wait a minute.

00:37:43.780 What is he going to do with the money that we've been spending in Afghanistan?

00:37:47.540 Has he said, well, I'm going to wait till I hear, cause I pretty sure they have another

00:37:52.300 war in the chamber if they're going to let him end this one.

00:37:55.380 And exactly.

00:37:55.940 They did.

00:37:56.360 They had the Ukraine war in the chamber, which they had been preparing for, for at least

00:38:00.920 a decade, if not longer.

00:38:02.560 And, and, and again, that's the, uh, Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, even, they're never

00:38:08.860 going to tell you that, oh, that's right.

00:38:11.400 The CIA got in bed with right-wing Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow their democratically

00:38:15.440 elected government.

00:38:16.460 Why?

00:38:16.980 For economic reasons.

00:38:18.820 That's why.

00:38:19.540 Why?

00:38:19.840 Because, oh, because the, uh, Ukraine wanted to, they had a better economic deal from Putin

00:38:24.740 and Russia than they were getting from the European union.

00:38:26.700 And that cannot stand.

00:38:28.760 And so we, uh, we overthrew their democratically elected president.

00:38:32.600 Then we, Zelensky's a puppet, right?

00:38:35.160 And he ran on peace.

00:38:36.340 That's the irony.

00:38:37.260 So he ran on peace and ending war.

00:38:39.260 And now, and now he's banning newspapers and opposition parties and going into Christian

00:38:44.880 churches.

00:38:45.340 And you've, you've seen it all.

00:38:47.280 And, uh, you know, killing American journalists, right?

00:38:50.060 And he's not elected.

00:38:51.140 He's a dictator by definition.

00:38:53.400 Exactly.

00:38:54.320 So they'll never tell you about the Minsk Accords and that they had peace agreements

00:38:59.200 and that, uh, as Angela Merkel revealed that they never, uh, the, the Ukraine and the NATO

00:39:05.200 never intended to abide by the peace.

00:39:07.240 So what happened after we overthrew the government in Ukraine, uh, in 2014 was, uh, the people,

00:39:13.900 the Russian speaking ethnics in the East part of Ukraine didn't want to go along with that

00:39:17.740 couped government.

00:39:18.940 And so the Ukrainian government Nazis started bombing them, right?

00:39:22.880 They started shelling them, which is why we had to have peace agreements, Minsk one

00:39:26.280 and two accords.

00:39:27.320 And Angela Merkel revealed that they never meant to go along with those.

00:39:30.880 They just use that as a time to build up the Ukrainian military to get ready for a war

00:39:35.560 with Russia that they were going to provoke, which everyone knows that they did provoke.

00:39:39.560 They certainly did provoke it.

00:39:41.180 And I don't think everyone knows that, but I'll just say it again.

00:39:43.520 They provoked it using Kamala Harris at the Munich security conference.

00:39:47.120 Right.

00:39:47.240 When she said that you were going to put them in, we're going to put Ukraine in NATO.

00:39:50.600 That was the final straw.

00:39:52.520 And there was, you know, all Putin wanted was, Hey, just don't do that.

00:39:55.280 I can't have you putting nuclear weapons and I can't have a NATO right on my border.

00:40:00.180 And you could have, everybody could have anyway.

00:40:02.260 And so they, but the way it's told in the United States is that Putin is an evil dictator.

00:40:07.120 And he just woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine for kicks because he's just evil

00:40:11.780 and they don't have any.

00:40:13.520 And then of course he blew up his own pipeline, the Nord Stream pipeline, uh, the biggest

00:40:18.100 and which actually screws over Europe and Germany, right?

00:40:21.820 Now their economies are all hurting because of that.

00:40:24.560 And Putin's economy is outgrowing, growing faster than the United States.

00:40:28.500 Exactly.

00:40:29.400 And, uh.

00:40:30.080 I believe I was called a traitor for pointing that out, but it doesn't make it any less true.

00:40:33.580 It's a fact.

00:40:34.360 But this is all, and this, it's so frustrating, this kind of propaganda.

00:40:37.700 And because I have the time to look into this and I'm aware of it and I can't keep my mouth

00:40:43.780 shut about it.

00:40:44.520 Now, you know, everybody calls me a right winger.

00:40:47.020 People say I'm turning Democrats into Republicans and stuff like that.

00:40:50.740 I'm just like, no, I'm trying to wake up Democrats and Republicans to the uniparty that's been

00:40:55.440 running things.

00:40:56.220 And that's exactly what we're living in, you know?

00:40:58.540 And, and, you know, it's, it's funny.

00:41:00.600 I'm, I'm noting some kind of a pattern.

00:41:03.560 Uh, every war, there seems to be some kind of, uh, in every coup we do.

00:41:07.980 There seems to be some kind of natural resource that we actually are after in an economic gain,

00:41:12.440 just like, uh, well, Lindsey Graham just said it, that there there's $11 trillion in rare

00:41:18.260 earth minerals under Ukraine.

00:41:19.660 He just blurts it out like his boyfriend's name on Valentine's day.

00:41:23.440 And, uh, there it is.

00:41:24.960 And I'm like, oh, nobody ever talked about this for the first three or four years of

00:41:28.600 this war.

00:41:29.140 All of a sudden he's like, oh, it's all about $11 trillion in rare.

00:41:32.500 I'm like, you son of a bitch.

00:41:34.020 And they just say it.

00:41:35.440 They just say it out loud.

00:41:36.680 And there's no media there to hold him accountable because the media is now owned by billionaires

00:41:40.760 like Jeff Bezos.

00:41:41.960 And they, they don't hire journalists from blue collar backgrounds.

00:41:45.400 They hire journalists from, uh, Ivy league schools who are going to be class loyal.

00:41:49.860 They don't have to tell them what to say.

00:41:51.900 Exactly.

00:41:52.580 Who are going to be class loyal boy.

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00:43:41.180 So I'm fixated on this question of the DNC emails winding up with WikiLeaks and Julian Assange.

00:43:50.380 We were told that Russia did that.

00:43:53.100 The FBI was never allowed in.

00:43:54.920 The U.S. government never actually.

00:43:56.240 No, CrowdStrike.

00:43:57.300 CrowdStrike, right?

00:43:58.780 Told us that.

00:43:59.840 And we were just beaten in the face with that line for the next three years.

00:44:03.700 And it was on the basis of that supposed crime that Russia became our biggest enemy.

00:44:09.100 And we wound up in a hot war with Russia.

00:44:11.020 And my question to you is, do you think those emails were stolen by Russia and given to Julian

00:44:17.600 Assange?

00:44:17.920 He's denied that.

00:44:18.720 Or do you think they were leaked to WikiLeaks by a disgruntled DNC employee who saw the DNC

00:44:25.280 cheating in the primary on behalf of Hillary Clinton and against Bernie Sanders to shut down

00:44:30.920 democracy within the party?

00:44:32.080 So that DNC email leak being blamed on Russia served two purposes, right?

00:44:40.020 You get to tie Donald Trump to Russia.

00:44:43.920 Right.

00:44:44.100 And then you get to demonize Russia.

00:44:47.980 Which they had a war in the chamber for, right?

00:44:50.940 They wanted, they knew this was coming.

00:44:52.900 So it served both purposes.

00:44:55.020 And do I think that, so we, no, Russia, I had on Bill Binney, who at the time was the

00:45:01.480 number one code breaker for the NSA for decades.

00:45:05.300 And of course, he told the truth.

00:45:07.160 So the FBI tried to imprison him.

00:45:09.080 And, but he's smarter than the FBI, which isn't that hard.

00:45:12.360 And so he outwitted them.

00:45:13.700 Wait, the FBI tried to imprison Bill Binney?

00:45:16.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:17.040 Yeah, they tried to, they tried to get him, but he outsmarted them, right?

00:45:20.160 He told the story on my show.

00:45:21.740 I don't, I don't remember the details because it was in 2016.

00:45:24.760 But basically he was just in one sentence.

00:45:27.420 Binney's very familiar with how information moves digitally said, made the case mathematically

00:45:32.000 that it would be impossible to leak it from outside the building.

00:45:36.440 You had to have someone downloading it from.

00:45:38.240 He said it had to be downloaded.

00:45:40.320 And he said, because there would be, there's a paper, there'd be a trail of, you know, electronic

00:45:45.940 trail that you would see if that information got downloaded and went.

00:45:50.140 So he said that had to be locally downloaded, right?

00:45:54.900 Like, and so then it comes up Seth Rich, right?

00:45:59.240 So you always can tell when the establishment's up to some fuckery, when they don't allow you

00:46:06.040 to ask questions about something, like you weren't allowed to ask questions about COVID.

00:46:09.460 So, you know, something's up, right?

00:46:11.220 100%.

00:46:11.620 So, but that's true in our personal lives too.

00:46:13.800 If I don't, if I refuse to talk about something, there's probably something there.

00:46:16.560 So I first experienced this when it came to Seth Rich, right?

00:46:20.420 So I remember that there was a private investigator that was hired, I don't know, by the family

00:46:25.340 or someone connected to the Seth Rich family, and he gave a press conference.

00:46:29.900 And I, all I did was cover his press conference and I asked logical questions like, hey, if

00:46:35.800 this was a botched robbery, how come they didn't steal his watch or his wallet or anything?

00:46:40.460 How come there's, where's the videotape of this?

00:46:42.580 There's cameras everywhere.

00:46:43.480 Hey, how, where was he when the time he left the bar to the time he got to his house?

00:46:48.240 There's hours in between there.

00:46:49.460 Nobody, I just want to know.

00:46:51.440 And I remember I was on a panel, a news panel, and I said, can anybody remember the last time

00:46:58.120 there was an unsolved murder in Washington, DC and reporters weren't allowed to ask questions

00:47:03.920 about it?

00:47:04.740 And it was just like, well, no, no, they didn't want to talk about it.

00:47:07.800 They didn't want, of course, that's never happened before and it's never happened since.

00:47:11.540 And so I got the, a hit piece put on me in the Washington Post because then called me

00:47:18.540 a conspiracy theorist because I was asking logical questions about an unsolved murder.

00:47:24.360 How dare you?

00:47:25.900 In Washington, DC.

00:47:26.820 I was put in a hit piece in the, in the Washington Post and a son of a bitch, a couple of years

00:47:34.240 go by and now the, they've been, first of all, the FBI said they didn't have his computer,

00:47:39.140 Seth Rich's laptop.

00:47:40.240 Oh, then they said, okay, yeah, we have it, but we can't access it.

00:47:44.140 Then they're like, okay, yeah, we accessed it, but we, we have a printout, but we can't

00:47:48.240 share it.

00:47:48.780 And then a judge ordered them to release their findings of the, what's inside that computer

00:47:54.000 and they refused.

00:47:55.640 The judge ordered them again, you have to do this.

00:47:58.960 And they said, I know where they, they invoke some national security thing.

00:48:02.460 And they, and they said, we're not going to release it for 65 years.

00:48:05.720 That's what they said.

00:48:06.720 And I was like, he's a low level staffer at DNC.

00:48:09.540 I was like, son of a bitch.

00:48:10.620 I knew it.

00:48:11.500 There was something up.

00:48:12.720 And when the FBI isn't going to, I'm like, what did, did Seth Rich kill Kennedy?

00:48:16.340 Why won't they?

00:48:17.220 So, and, and, and of course, now I was right to ask all those questions.

00:48:24.000 And so it certainly seems all the evidence points towards Seth Rich.

00:48:28.480 It doesn't point towards Russia because now we know that Russia didn't.

00:48:31.320 I knew that immediately.

00:48:32.360 I knew that in 2016, that that wasn't possible.

00:48:34.640 And they knew that the crowd strike was lying.

00:48:36.720 In fact, and that, and that it was the Hillary Clinton campaign and the intelligence community

00:48:41.540 that concocted the Russiagate conspiracy theory, which is one of the dumbest, most easily debunked

00:48:47.880 conspiracy theories of my life that was repeated ubiquitously in the press, right?

00:48:53.300 Manufacturing consent.

00:48:54.820 And so the Steele dossier, you know, Hillary Clinton funded it, right?

00:48:58.680 And we all know it was all made up.

00:49:00.480 And she lied about that, by the way.

00:49:03.440 She had to pay a fine for lying about that.

00:49:07.520 Nobody ever, again, none, if it doesn't get reported in the press, it doesn't happen.

00:49:11.400 They decide what's the news and what isn't.

00:49:13.640 And if it doesn't get reported, I mean, it got reported on page 17, but nobody made a

00:49:18.500 big deal out of it.

00:49:19.300 So that's what, if you're asking me about the DNC leak of the emails, I think certainly

00:49:25.780 the evidence doesn't point towards Russia whatsoever.

00:49:29.760 There never was any evidence.

00:49:31.120 And they lied about everything.

00:49:33.920 And there was, I mean, I remember if this was, look, I'm not a Democrat, have never been.

00:49:38.760 So a lot of this stuff was confusing to me.

00:49:40.820 And it was just hard to, it's hard to assess things as they happen.

00:49:43.500 And I feel like an idiot for not, my instincts aligned with yours exactly.

00:49:47.700 I thought there's something, there's lying here.

00:49:49.440 I know lying, but I'm not exactly sure what they're lying about.

00:49:52.840 And I don't know what the truth is.

00:49:53.940 But I remember that the Nation magazine, the oldest leftist magazine in the United States,

00:50:00.660 Victor Novasky's old magazine, ran a piece by Bill Binney saying, this is not Russia.

00:50:06.800 Russia did not do this.

00:50:07.960 And you look back eight years and the idea that the Nation magazine would write a piece

00:50:14.120 like that, that's impossible to imagine now.

00:50:15.960 They would never do that.

00:50:16.780 But it's like every institution on the left got captured by this weird neoliberal dishonesty.

00:50:24.140 And I just, how did that happen?

00:50:26.160 Well, is that the, so Aaron Maté did a meticulous debunking of the Russiagate conspiracy theory.

00:50:37.260 And he was allowed to be printed.

00:50:38.900 I think it was in the Nation.

00:50:40.180 Oh, good.

00:50:40.560 Okay, good.

00:50:41.720 Boyd, the editor, I think it's, I think Vanden Heuvel.

00:50:45.840 Katrina, yeah.

00:50:46.780 And she caught a lot of guff for just, it was the only time they printed anything counter

00:50:52.480 to that narrative.

00:50:54.000 And Aaron Maté ended up winning the I.F.

00:50:57.280 Stone Independent Journalism Award for that work.

00:51:00.040 And they said he meticulously debunked Russiagate.

00:51:03.100 It didn't, it, Russiagate's a dumb conspiracy theory.

00:51:05.600 If you want to find the debunking of it, there it is.

00:51:08.320 It's, it's, it was given an award, the Izzy Award, right?

00:51:12.560 But again, that doesn't make the front page of the Washington Post and the New York Times.

00:51:16.280 Now, Rachel Maddow's never going to tell you that.

00:51:18.420 She's just going to keep going on and Russiagating and Russiagating because to tell the truth

00:51:22.240 about Russiagate gets you ostracized.

00:51:25.120 And to lie about it gets you a $30 million contract, which is what Rachel Maddow got,

00:51:29.500 which is $100,000 a day.

00:51:31.280 That's how much Rachel Maddow gets paid to lie to you about Ukraine, about COVID, about

00:51:36.820 anything.

00:51:37.560 That's what she's there to lie about.

00:51:39.080 Russiagate.

00:51:39.480 How long can that continue?

00:51:41.340 I mean, the audience for news organizations that lie, all news organizations lie, but,

00:51:48.080 you know, you'd hope it's inadvertent.

00:51:50.000 It's a mistake.

00:51:51.020 No.

00:51:51.440 I've made a lot of those.

00:51:52.400 But the ones who lie on purpose, like NBC News or CBS or ABC, Washington Post, New York

00:51:57.200 Times, like they are losing audience share as a result of their lying.

00:52:01.380 Can they continue?

00:52:02.080 Yeah, I don't see any end to it.

00:52:06.000 Right now, they keep inventing fake fact check organizations.

00:52:10.620 So I had like this, you know, CIA employee from NBC News contact me about me spreading

00:52:17.420 misinformation.

00:52:19.200 Oh, it was directly about you.

00:52:20.560 They said when you spread misinformation.

00:52:23.980 About me?

00:52:24.200 Yeah, that I said that I repeated the Russian propaganda that you were targeted for assassination

00:52:32.580 by a Ukrainian.

00:52:33.680 And I went back and I looked at my coverage and I said, the only thing we can say for sure

00:52:39.100 is that this guy is being detained for questioning.

00:52:42.560 That's the only thing.

00:52:43.260 I didn't, you know, I agree.

00:52:45.140 NBC did that?

00:52:45.720 Yeah.

00:52:46.000 I said, no, if you look at this, that, and then I realized.

00:52:48.940 That story is true, just by the way.

00:52:50.780 I've never have talked about it.

00:52:51.600 I'm not going to talk about it now, but it's just, it's so interesting.

00:52:54.000 They never called me.

00:52:55.260 I would be the, I was the target of that assassination attempt.

00:52:57.680 So you'd think that someone would ask me.

00:52:59.520 They never did.

00:53:00.140 Who was this employee?

00:53:01.420 You know what?

00:53:02.200 It's a woman and I can't think of her name, but I know she's been, as I looked into it,

00:53:07.980 I'm like, oh, other people have called her out for being the mouthpiece of this intelligence

00:53:12.860 community.

00:53:13.440 And that's what her job, she's a fact checker.

00:53:15.360 She used to be a librarian and now she's a fact checker for NBC News.

00:53:19.900 Brandy Zedonzy or something like that.

00:53:21.640 She has like a Ukrainian sounding name.

00:53:23.300 Uh-huh.

00:53:24.300 And then I just got contacted.

00:53:26.020 Then the next week, a place called Logically Fallacy or Logically False or some kind of

00:53:34.160 international fact checking organization.

00:53:37.160 And I, and they were saying, hey, you're spreading misinformation about this.

00:53:40.240 And it was a satirical piece I had done, one of them.

00:53:43.480 And it was so funny.

00:53:44.520 Do you guys know what SADS hire is?

00:53:45.780 Anyway, so I looked into who funds them, right?

00:53:49.020 Because that's the first thing you want to do is look into who funds them.

00:53:51.620 And they were started off by a grant from MIT, which we all know is CIA infested.

00:53:56.080 And then they got the Jeff Bezos, who's in bed with the CIA and wants to keep his billions

00:54:02.400 and billions of dollars of contracts with the CIA.

00:54:04.760 He also funded them.

00:54:06.120 And then their two big clients, the UK government and the United States government.

00:54:09.560 And you're fact checking on behalf of the war machine.

00:54:13.340 That's what that is.

00:54:15.260 If you're, by the way, if you're a government fact checker, then you are by definition like

00:54:19.720 a liar, Lord Ha Ha.

00:54:21.600 You're like a stooge.

00:54:22.580 Yeah.

00:54:22.860 You're Tokyo Rose.

00:54:23.820 You're a liar.

00:54:24.260 I mean, you're not only a liar, you're a collaborator.

00:54:27.580 Baghdad Bob.

00:54:28.440 Yeah.

00:54:28.700 Baghdad Bob.

00:54:29.340 Thank you.

00:54:29.700 That's what you are.

00:54:30.440 That's what those people are.

00:54:31.340 So what the, the, what I realized what was happening and it kind of scared me was that,

00:54:36.500 oh, they're trying to get me, they're going to try and Russell brand me.

00:54:39.820 They're going to try to get me the platform so they can have all these articles about

00:54:43.860 Jimmy Dore spreading misinformation and they can put, and then, so then YouTube will go,

00:54:48.220 oh, well, look at all this.

00:54:49.280 We got to get rid of this guy.

00:54:50.440 Look at all these fact-checking organizations, which they did the same thing.

00:54:54.320 So Facebook demonetized me because, you know, the big pharma funded fact-checking organizations,

00:55:00.260 which is funded by the Johnson and Johnson.

00:55:02.160 And they, they said I was spreading misinformation about COVID, which not, none, nothing, none

00:55:08.780 of it was ever misinformation.

00:55:09.860 It was all information.

00:55:10.880 Again, you don't get in trouble for telling, for lying, you get in trouble for telling the

00:55:15.120 truth, which is what they did.

00:55:16.360 They would, they would write these, I mean, 20,000 word essays about how I lied about something

00:55:23.360 and it just came down to, they didn't like my headline.

00:55:25.260 They quibbled with my headline.

00:55:26.580 That's a, that's called a quibble.

00:55:27.980 That's not a fact check.

00:55:28.920 Not one fact I got wrong.

00:55:30.500 But then Facebook used that as, Hey, you know, they put a label on my story.

00:55:35.840 This is misinformation.

00:55:36.980 You better not share it.

00:55:38.040 You better not even read it.

00:55:39.460 You're going to get in trouble.

00:55:41.180 And, you know, and then now Zuckerberg has come out and apologized.

00:55:45.220 Yeah.

00:55:45.360 I was pressured to do all this censoring and they're still doing it.

00:55:48.740 They're not stopping.

00:55:49.660 Like, I don't know why he's even did that, but they're still doing it.

00:55:52.740 They're still have those fake fact-check organizations.

00:55:55.240 And if you look into them, they're being funded by a billionaire or they're with a political

00:55:59.640 agenda or by a big pharma or a corporation somewhere that has a political agenda.

00:56:04.520 They're not, anybody calls themselves a fact-checker is a liar.

00:56:07.600 They're paid liars.

00:56:09.840 Of course, the, you know, the irony is it's, it's always exactly the opposite of what they're

00:56:14.720 telling you.

00:56:15.240 Yes.

00:56:15.880 And if you, if you get your money from the government to fact-check, the biggest liars

00:56:21.460 are always the government.

00:56:22.740 Of course.

00:56:22.960 The second biggest liars is the corporate media.

00:56:25.260 Of course.

00:56:25.420 And third, in a distant third, are randos on social media.

00:56:29.100 Right.

00:56:31.580 That's so true.

00:56:33.020 I, I think anyone who uses the term misinformation non-ironically is, is part of the problem.

00:56:39.060 And because that's not a real category.

00:56:41.680 There are only two categories, true or false.

00:56:44.100 Inconvenient for the people in power is not a meaningful category to me.

00:56:46.900 I don't give a shit whether it's inconvenient for them.

00:56:48.860 That's what, isn't that what, what, isn't it, what are the, one of them disinformation

00:56:52.220 I think is, it might be true, but it's inconvenient for the establishment.

00:56:56.060 Or missing, all of them.

00:56:57.480 Yeah.

00:56:57.760 It's true or false.

00:56:58.860 Is it a lie or is it true?

00:57:00.700 It's that simple.

00:57:02.440 And it's, you know, when you start expanding the categories, it's like the genders.

00:57:06.440 I'm sorry.

00:57:06.900 I just, like, you get into fantasy, but it's fantasy concocted to protect the people in

00:57:14.280 charge.

00:57:14.680 I mean, so do you, do you feel, it feels to me just being in New York last night, like

00:57:19.840 things are changing and Trump is at the, you know, the apex of, of the pyramid, but I'm

00:57:25.480 not sure how much it's about Trump.

00:57:26.720 Maybe it is, maybe it's not.

00:57:27.540 I'm not really sure.

00:57:28.460 But I've noticed a lot of people who seem to have decided, I'm just going to say what

00:57:32.440 I think, and I don't care anymore.

00:57:34.200 Do you feel that?

00:57:37.400 What, what I will say is that when Bobby Kennedy joined Donald Trump and he did that at a,

00:57:45.260 and I think it was Glendale, Arizona, he got introduced and he was up there talking about

00:57:50.880 ending the billionaire, billion dollar funded wars and investing that money back at home.

00:57:56.380 He was talking about cleaning up our water supply and cleaning up our food supply and getting

00:58:02.200 the corruption out of our captured agencies, the CDC, the FDA.

00:58:06.200 He was talking about taking on big Agra.

00:58:08.100 He was talking about confronting our obesity epidemic and the chronic illness that's been

00:58:14.260 exploding.

00:58:15.980 And there was a, whether you think Donald Trump is, is serious about letting Bobby take over

00:58:21.780 that agenda or not.

00:58:22.960 What was really interesting to me was that was a stadium full of Republican voters who were

00:58:29.200 cheering that stuff on.

00:58:30.640 That's right.

00:58:30.980 And that's a traditionally, that's supposed to be a Democrat.

00:58:33.820 When was the last time you heard a Democratic politician talking about the captured regulatory

00:58:37.300 agencies, right?

00:58:39.420 These are, these are things that the Democrat, these are what I would consider lefty issues.

00:58:43.900 So what this message there, that's what really scares the establishment, Tucker, is for a guy

00:58:48.960 like me to see that.

00:58:50.120 And people who agree with that message to see a room full of Republican voters also agree with

00:58:55.180 that message.

00:58:55.800 And we're like, Hey, well, maybe we're not that different.

00:58:57.880 Maybe we do have more in common and we share a common enemy.

00:59:01.520 And that enemy is the oligarchy and the establishment that has been crushing us and poisoning us at

00:59:06.280 the behest of big pharma and corporations and big Agra for the last 50 years.

00:59:10.660 They don't want us to realize that.

00:59:12.600 You know, when Kamala Harris, when Dick Cheney endorses her, she says, Oh, you know, we have

00:59:17.060 more in common than divides us.

00:59:18.820 She doesn't mean she has more in common with workers.

00:59:20.720 She doesn't mean she has more in common with regular people or students or the, and she

00:59:25.280 means she has more in common with neocon Republicans.

00:59:28.760 She doesn't mean that we share, they share a common enemy.

00:59:31.620 They are the common enemy.

00:59:33.340 And so that's what I'll say about, uh, about that.

00:59:36.100 And, and I, I see, uh, you know, I have a red line.

00:59:40.100 Uh, I wish Donald Trump, uh, you know, I was talking with Chris Hedges, I was interviewed

00:59:46.000 on his show and we were talking about how, you know, if it's Kamala Harris, it's Donald

00:59:51.020 Trump, the same thing's happening in, in Palestine and Gaza.

00:59:55.020 And I said, you know, weird thing is, and is that someone's trying to kill Donald Trump

01:00:01.940 and it looks like it's the deep state.

01:00:03.440 And so he must be a problem somehow.

01:00:07.360 Right.

01:00:07.820 So that, so that go, that's gives me hope.

01:00:10.420 I'm in a weird way there.

01:00:12.320 I go, they're trying to kill him.

01:00:13.600 So that's gotta mean something.

01:00:15.520 Right.

01:00:16.160 I definitely agree with that.

01:00:18.340 And they're not trying to kill her and they're not trying to kill Joe Biden.

01:00:21.760 And so there's gotta be something.

01:00:24.340 The establishment has a very, I think they're unimpressive and they've done nothing to help

01:00:29.940 our society.

01:00:30.580 And I mean that, but the one thing they're really good at is that.

01:00:33.440 They're sniffing out who means it, who's a threat.

01:00:35.580 Their threat assessment is unerring.

01:00:37.820 They know, like they look at AOC who's like power to the people, power to the workers.

01:00:42.100 And they're like, oh yeah, she's one of us.

01:00:43.480 Like they know that's a lie.

01:00:44.980 They know she doesn't mean it.

01:00:46.720 And they look at someone like Tulsi, who's like, you know, liberal chick from Hawaii.

01:00:52.380 And they look at her and they're like, no, actually you can't be in our party.

01:00:56.580 Like they could just feel it.

01:00:57.560 You know what I mean?

01:00:58.120 And the fact they want, it almost doesn't matter what you say.

01:01:01.920 They, they're like animals.

01:01:03.120 And I mean, this is a compliment.

01:01:04.760 They, they detect the aroma.

01:01:07.020 Like they know who's a threat.

01:01:08.660 And I agree with you.

01:01:09.980 Trying to kill Trump is like, it's established as bona fides in my mind.

01:01:13.960 You know, that you bring up Tulsi and people forget what happened.

01:01:19.640 She was a darling of the Democratic Party.

01:01:21.200 Oh my, vice chair of DNC when she got to Washington.

01:01:23.320 And then she decided to support, she, she didn't like the corporate money inside the party.

01:01:28.340 And she decided to support Bernie Sanders.

01:01:30.540 Yeah.

01:01:31.020 Right.

01:01:31.280 Which made her hated by half the party that supported.

01:01:34.320 So there was half the party supported Bernie.

01:01:36.020 Half the, half the Democratic primary voters supported Bernie.

01:01:39.320 Half supported Hillary Clinton.

01:01:41.860 So that half the party hated her.

01:01:43.900 Right.

01:01:44.560 And then she went on to tell the truth about the Syrian war.

01:01:47.900 Yes.

01:01:48.280 And to tell the truth about the rest of our four choice wars of economic interest.

01:01:54.320 And she lost the, then she ran against Joe Biden and she ran against Bernie.

01:01:59.120 So now the Bernie supporters turned on her too.

01:02:01.100 And that, that's why, so people need to remember what happened with Tulsi.

01:02:07.300 I just try to remind people.

01:02:08.980 And now I disagree with Tulsi's view on a lot of things.

01:02:14.580 Israel is the big one.

01:02:16.500 But I don't, I don't forget why people, they, again, just like with you, they, she got in

01:02:22.140 trouble because she told the truth about Syria because she told the truth about Ukraine because

01:02:26.580 she told the truth about the Democratic Party cheating Bernie Sanders and the corporate control

01:02:30.440 of their party.

01:02:31.320 That was, again, you don't get in trouble for lying.

01:02:33.520 She got in trouble for telling the truth.

01:02:35.980 That is absolutely right.

01:02:37.440 And they knew they could smell it on her right away.

01:02:39.940 She got back from that trip to see Assad.

01:02:41.700 And I was so out of it.

01:02:42.820 I was like, what's wrong with that?

01:02:44.200 She's on the foreign relations committee.

01:02:46.220 Exactly.

01:02:47.140 And she wasn't, I mean, I don't, I never understood why we were against Assad in the

01:02:50.760 first place.

01:02:51.360 I never had strong feelings about Assad.

01:02:53.100 He protected the Christians in Syria.

01:02:55.320 I don't know.

01:02:55.960 That seemed like a good reason to at least be neutral.

01:02:58.660 Whatever.

01:02:59.140 I just didn't, I wasn't that interested in the world.

01:03:00.420 I wasn't interested in the topic.

01:03:00.940 I'm American, right?

01:03:01.940 So it's not my world.

01:03:03.940 I'm not living in the Levant in my head.

01:03:06.380 But when she did that, I remember, I mean, they were just like, no, we, that they hated

01:03:11.020 her more than they hated any Republican.

01:03:13.720 I was really struck by that.

01:03:15.020 So that, you know, there's a theory that the reason why the Syrian war happened was

01:03:19.360 because they wanted to put a pipeline from, was it Qatar or Saudi Arabia, right through

01:03:25.240 Syria.

01:03:25.860 And of course, Syria was aligned with Russia and they wanted, and so they wanted to get

01:03:30.460 rid of Assad so they could do that.

01:03:32.440 And, you know, the CIA was backing, you know, ISIS and Al Qaeda.

01:03:37.760 Actually.

01:03:38.520 Literally funding them, right?

01:03:40.140 In a dirty war in Syria, right?

01:03:42.620 One of the most expensive dirty wars they've ever done.

01:03:45.380 And it was all, of course.

01:03:46.440 And without question, the most immoral is you're funding ISIS and Al Qaeda.

01:03:50.120 Yes.

01:03:50.620 You're not on our side.

01:03:51.860 No.

01:03:52.200 And yet our government did that with our money.

01:03:54.740 And Tulsi is, if I'm recalling this correctly, sponsored a piece of legislation that basically

01:03:59.320 just said we're not allowed to use U.S. tax dollars to fund ISIS.

01:04:02.720 They were like, shut up, extremist.

01:04:05.100 That's right.

01:04:05.980 Yeah.

01:04:06.280 Right winger.

01:04:07.340 That was insane.

01:04:09.760 So what happens?

01:04:11.260 It was so bad, Tucker, in Syria that the Pentagon would be funding one terrorist organization

01:04:18.100 and the CIA would be funding another terrorist organization and then they would fight each

01:04:22.700 other inside Syria.

01:04:24.040 And how do I know that?

01:04:24.820 Because it got printed in the L.A. Times.

01:04:26.380 That's how obvious it was.

01:04:27.880 But again, that doesn't, that it's not, it's on page 37.

01:04:30.900 It's not on page one.

01:04:32.060 It's not the lead story of the news.

01:04:33.680 In fact, it never makes the TV news.

01:04:35.720 And all they do is show you pictures of them cutting the guy's head off with a butcher's

01:04:40.460 kitchen knife.

01:04:40.900 Remember when that was the big thing on cable?

01:04:43.160 I remember I'm watching Chris Matthews and they would show an ISIS guy cutting someone's

01:04:48.040 head off with a kitchen knife.

01:04:49.880 And Chris Matthews is like, the president's got to do something.

01:04:52.220 He's got to do something.

01:04:52.900 That's exactly how propaganda works.

01:04:55.080 And they're like, look, they're barbarians.

01:04:56.540 And my response was, yeah, why don't they blow their heads off with a nice Christian bomb

01:05:00.500 made by Christians in a Christian bomb factory?

01:05:02.880 Because that's what Jesus would do.

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01:07:36.600 Can I just ask, I don't want to get too far afield, but since you've been watching this stuff for so long,

01:07:55.980 whatever happened to Chris Matthews?

01:07:57.400 He was like a dutiful soldier for the Democratic Party.

01:07:58.920 He got Me Too'd.

01:07:59.980 But why?

01:08:00.880 I mean, I worked in television my whole life, so I know for a fact that a lot of people could have been Me Too'd,

01:08:05.820 but it was Chris Matthews, and they just crushed him in one day.

01:08:08.340 Why?

01:08:09.300 I saw, I found a video.

01:08:11.240 It's a good question.

01:08:12.600 I found a video of him on, I think, election night, some election night,

01:08:17.900 and Rachel Maddow sitting there saying, you know, Trump's victory, the Republican victory,

01:08:22.660 is all about racism and hatred and racism.

01:08:25.540 And he was like, nah, you know, if you go through Wisconsin and you see that, you know,

01:08:29.380 the diners close and there's this thing and the people and the kind of,

01:08:32.440 and he made an economic case for what was happening.

01:08:35.260 And I was like, that's what happened.

01:08:38.400 That's what happened.

01:08:39.460 Amazing.

01:08:39.960 Because he actually slipped up and told the truth once, right?

01:08:42.860 Just like Jon Stewart, when he slipped up and told the truth about the COVID virus,

01:08:46.960 then I guess Chris Matthews didn't get his mind right or they had to make an example out of him

01:08:50.840 because that's what that was.

01:08:52.720 Fascinating.

01:08:53.180 Oh, I'm so glad I asked that question.

01:08:54.460 Yeah.

01:08:54.880 So there's a zero tolerance policy for certain truths.

01:08:57.500 I mean, it's absolutely zero tolerance.

01:08:58.740 Like you can spend 40 years, if you're Chris Matthews, carrying water for a bunch of dumb

01:09:04.080 politicians, pretty reliably.

01:09:06.920 And then you say one thing about economics that's true and you're done.

01:09:12.080 Yeah.

01:09:12.760 And, or look at, you know, look at Mehdi Hassan.

01:09:14.960 He thought he was insulated because he lied about the Syrian war.

01:09:18.680 He lied about the Ukraine war.

01:09:20.280 He lied about COVID.

01:09:21.540 He lied about Russiagate.

01:09:22.840 He did all that for the establishment.

01:09:25.000 So he thought that had bought him some, uh, a little insulation to tell a little truth

01:09:29.640 about Palestine.

01:09:30.620 And he, no, you're fired.

01:09:32.780 And that was that, you know what I'm talking about.

01:09:34.500 I do.

01:09:35.120 Yeah.

01:09:35.420 And that was, he's like, no dummy.

01:09:36.980 You don't get to, you don't get to tell even a little bit of truth, especially when that's

01:09:40.880 consequential.

01:09:41.800 So do you think, I mean, it just looks like if you look at the Rogan numbers, for example,

01:09:46.520 um, or your numbers, for example, it does feel like the era of those news organizations,

01:09:53.700 which I will never stop being angry at because I worked at them, but it does feel like their

01:09:57.380 era's over.

01:09:58.860 Well, it's, it's funny is that my numbers that keep going up on, um, on Rumble, uh, YouTube

01:10:05.040 has, I'm considered borderline content.

01:10:08.280 Really?

01:10:08.900 Yeah.

01:10:09.180 Oh yeah.

01:10:09.500 And so they, um, have ratcheted down the algorithm on me, uh, even though I still managed

01:10:16.540 to get between 15 and 20 million views a month, I used to was, I was getting 24, 25.

01:10:21.840 Now they've gotten me ratcheted down to 15.

01:10:24.860 And, you know, I, I, I remember I had a discussion with some people at YouTube and I'm like, Hey,

01:10:30.420 uh, this isn't a, what's going on.

01:10:32.540 Okay.

01:10:32.820 Is there, is there anything I said, I'm, I'm on bended knee.

01:10:35.460 Is there anything I can do to get this, to get off this algorithm that I've been put

01:10:40.940 on out?

01:10:41.440 And it just got way worse during the election season.

01:10:45.380 And the response was, well, it's the election season.

01:10:48.440 And so, you know, everybody's numbers in this space are down.

01:10:51.640 I'm like, that's like saying I should be selling, that's like saying I should be selling less,

01:10:56.620 uh, less, uh, less, uh, toys during Christmas season.

01:10:59.720 Exactly.

01:10:59.980 I mean, this is my numbers should be going through less ice cream in August.

01:11:02.360 So, I mean, I understand it's, it's, it's, um, YouTube got the hell scared out of them

01:11:07.560 in 2017 because, uh, we, we are a threat.

01:11:11.500 Like now you're independent.

01:11:12.940 I'm independent.

01:11:13.740 We are a threat to the New York times, to MSNBC.

01:11:16.640 We do get more of a higher ratings and especially Joe Rogan.

01:11:19.680 That's why they come at them so hard is, is because we're a threat to their business model.

01:11:23.960 So they have to discredit us.

01:11:25.280 And the way they do it is they, uh, scare the advertisers away from shows like ours.

01:11:30.180 Right.

01:11:30.420 That's the, I mean, there's a story that just came out.

01:11:32.640 That's how they wanted to, the labor party in the UK had a plan to kill Elon Musk's Twitter

01:11:37.400 by scaring advertisers away.

01:11:39.860 Right.

01:11:40.200 And so that's exactly what they did was called the adpocalypse.

01:11:42.620 It happened on YouTube in 2017.

01:11:45.140 And, uh, it's been, you know, a tough slog ever since, but, uh, we still break through.

01:11:49.940 People still are hungry, uh, for, they're just hungry for honesty.

01:11:54.640 Right.

01:11:55.080 Even like I say, I would say half my audience doesn't share a lot of my politics, but they

01:12:00.420 appreciate that.

01:12:01.460 I'm not lying to them and that I don't call them, uh, racists or, and I don't hate them.

01:12:07.200 I respect them.

01:12:08.340 And that I tell them we share, uh, we, we all want the same things, but we just have different

01:12:12.740 ways of getting there.

01:12:13.660 No, I, well, I feel that way about you.

01:12:14.960 I mean, I actually do agree with a lot of what you say, not all of course, but I think

01:12:19.580 you're, uh, sincere and serious and brave.

01:12:23.300 And those are the three qualities that I, you know, I look for in my friends and in people

01:12:28.100 I trust in media.

01:12:29.000 Why wouldn't I sincere, not lying to me, maybe wrong, but not lying serious, like trying to

01:12:36.000 honestly, like what, what are the big issues?

01:12:37.660 What actually matters?

01:12:38.520 I think that's important.

01:12:40.140 Um, and brave, not going to get pushed around.

01:12:43.040 Like, I don't know.

01:12:44.020 I don't think it's that hard.

01:12:45.760 Right.

01:12:46.960 Uh, I mean, they've certainly tried to push me around.

01:12:50.060 You know, they, I got, when I spoke at the UN security council, I was invited to speak

01:12:56.540 on the anniversary of the Nord Stream by pipeline bombing.

01:13:00.020 And so I, that's the funny, that's the funniest act of industrial terrorism in history because

01:13:05.040 Putin did it.

01:13:06.720 Putin is so evil that he blew up his own pipeline.

01:13:10.280 Yeah.

01:13:11.280 He's not an evil genius.

01:13:12.460 He's an evil moron, I guess he blew up his number one economic stream.

01:13:16.500 But, um, uh, so when I did and I, you know, I spoke in blunt language to the security council

01:13:23.280 about, you know, if you think Russia did this, you're either a paid liar or a dupe.

01:13:27.680 Um, and, um, well, on my way, so I, I did that via zoom cause I was in Europe at the time.

01:13:33.900 And, um, on my way home on the plane, um, my computer and my iCloud account got hacked.

01:13:40.720 Uh, and it was from Pegasus, right?

01:13:43.500 Now Pegasus is, was invented by the Mossad and it's very expensive.

01:13:48.140 If you want to get it, it costs millions of dollars and they can, anyway, I remember when

01:13:52.060 I got off the plane, I called my IT guy who used to be a security specialist for the military.

01:13:57.020 And I told him what happened and he was like, oh my God, Jimmy, he goes, even I couldn't do that.

01:14:01.760 He said, this wasn't a person.

01:14:03.000 And this was a state actor for sure.

01:14:05.440 And, uh, and I said, well, maybe I shouldn't have given that speech at the security council

01:14:09.200 and he laughed and I go, no, I just did that.

01:14:11.340 He goes, oh my God, that's what this is.

01:14:13.440 Yeah, of course.

01:14:13.880 And so that was, and then they also put my name in that list of that, uh, that kill list,

01:14:18.600 the Ukraine, right.

01:14:19.520 Has that kill list, which you're on.

01:14:22.340 And, um, so these are the, and so now they have everything.

01:14:24.980 So if they, uh, they want to turn it on me, they've got everything that was ever on my hard

01:14:29.560 drive, everything's on my computer, my phone on my iCloud.

01:14:33.480 So they, if they want to compromise me, they got a lot of stuff.

01:14:37.400 They've got a lot of stuff and stuff.

01:14:39.180 And if they're in, and of course they'll plant it on there, right.

01:14:42.100 Um, uh, if it's, if it's not, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll make it, they'll make me look

01:14:46.880 however they want to make me look.

01:14:50.280 Yeah.

01:14:50.660 I mean, I, I don't have a computer and I try and stay off the internet for that exact reason.

01:14:54.880 And I just want to say, um, out loud many times that I, I think kiddie porn is wrong.

01:15:01.420 And I think I'm not into pornography in general.

01:15:04.240 And I just want to say, I mean, I, you see these people, um, without even naming names,

01:15:08.920 but one of whom I know personally, it's like all of a sudden, you know, you're into kiddie

01:15:12.600 porn.

01:15:13.040 Okay.

01:15:13.360 Okay.

01:15:14.260 Right.

01:15:14.940 Yeah.

01:15:15.220 Uh, yeah, no, I mean, for sure, for sure.

01:15:18.280 I mean, I've seen it.

01:15:19.060 I know, uh, having been the target of that stuff and you don't want to whine about it.

01:15:24.080 I never want to seem like I'm whining.

01:15:25.400 I have a great life and I feel really privileged to have the job that I do, but no, there's heavy,

01:15:30.300 very heavy stuff going on.

01:15:31.540 There's no doubt.

01:15:31.820 I just always wanted to be a comedian.

01:15:33.920 I, out of the God, Tucker, I just wanted to be a comedian and be able to sell tickets and

01:15:38.060 tour and have people like me.

01:15:40.180 Cause I was, I was funny.

01:15:41.500 Yeah.

01:15:41.780 That's all I ever wanted.

01:15:43.340 And, uh, somehow, uh, well, I didn't, when I did my special in 2008 was called Citizen

01:15:48.880 Jimmy on Comedy Central and that got some attention.

01:15:53.380 And so I just got, it was the Iraq war that made me get interested.

01:15:57.220 Like I couldn't believe how bad the cable news was reporting this stuff.

01:16:00.680 So I just started talking about it in my act and, and a lot of people reacted positively

01:16:04.740 to it.

01:16:05.360 And when I started, I got offered my own public radio show in Los Angeles on KPFK.

01:16:11.680 And I started just, you know, doing what would I do now?

01:16:15.560 Cause, and I realized that, uh, it, I could do it way better than anybody in the corporate

01:16:21.880 news because I don't, I don't have that mind control that they, first of all, they pre-select

01:16:26.540 those people.

01:16:27.240 Just like I said, they come from Ivy league.

01:16:29.180 You know, there's two types of people who go to journalism school, uh, dupes and bad journalists

01:16:34.020 and, um, couldn't agree more.

01:16:36.120 And they all come from the same class.

01:16:37.780 I've never hired one.

01:16:38.940 And good.

01:16:39.760 In 30 years of, you know, being in more than 30 years being this business, I've never hired

01:16:44.380 a single person.

01:16:45.060 Journalism school.

01:16:46.120 It's a trade, not a profession.

01:16:49.160 It's, it's by the way, the most straightforward trade there is.

01:16:51.720 Yes.

01:16:52.560 And they want you to make, you know, make you like, yo, you're not a profession.

01:16:55.240 I've had people, you know, say that to me.

01:16:56.860 You're not a journalist.

01:16:57.940 I'm like, all a journalist is, is, uh, as it was described to me, is you stick your

01:17:03.200 head, uh, and you look, take a look down the street and you report back what you saw.

01:17:07.040 That's exactly right.

01:17:07.500 That's all journalism is.

01:17:08.780 And you do it, you know, with some, with a high level of honesty and a dollop of courage

01:17:12.560 and that's, but it's just not hard.

01:17:13.700 If you're really smart, you can fix air conditioners.

01:17:15.940 If you're less smart, you can do journalism.

01:17:18.140 I mean, no, that's, that's real.

01:17:19.880 That's such a great way to put it.

01:17:21.440 That's really funny.

01:17:22.760 Well, it's true.

01:17:23.720 It's so, but what?

01:17:24.560 Okay, so I'm interested, and I think you might know the answer, if Trump wins in a

01:17:29.840 week, a little over a week, and I think he will, um, what?

01:17:34.340 I don't see how they're going to let him win.

01:17:36.460 I don't, if they would overthrow, uh, governments in every other part of the world and rig elections

01:17:42.780 and do coups and Juan Guaido and the whole, and Zelensky and, I mean, they're willing to

01:17:49.460 start a nuclear war.

01:17:50.760 Why wouldn't they be willing to rig an election?

01:17:52.760 Well, I think they have, and they're trying.

01:17:55.480 Yeah.

01:17:55.900 But I think maybe, you know, there's a, there's a level of popular support that's just hard

01:18:01.020 to hide, and I think we're reaching that point.

01:18:04.180 But, okay, let's, let's start at the, my assumption first, then, and then we'll return

01:18:08.280 to yours.

01:18:08.620 So let's say Trump does win on November 5th, and, you know, he wins all seven battlegrounds.

01:18:14.820 Maybe he gets the majority of the popular vote.

01:18:17.140 Maybe he gets the majority of the Hispanic vote.

01:18:18.620 I mean, markers like that that are kind of hard to lie away, right?

01:18:22.840 Even if you're Joe Scarborough, like, what do you do with a number like that?

01:18:26.080 Um, how does the Democratic Party respond?

01:18:29.420 What does the establishment respond?

01:18:31.480 Uh, I bet they just double down on everything that they-

01:18:34.260 Really?

01:18:34.960 Yeah.

01:18:35.740 Are you kidding?

01:18:36.880 Yeah.

01:18:37.260 They lost him the first time.

01:18:38.760 And I'm like, well, this, so this is going to force them to change.

01:18:41.600 It didn't.

01:18:42.180 They got, they invented Russiagate.

01:18:44.560 They ramped up the racism.

01:18:46.220 That's so unhealthy.

01:18:47.580 If you fail, I've been fired a lot at a drinking problem.

01:18:50.540 Like, I, they open the, but that's when you stop and you say, like, how did this happen?

01:18:54.760 How was I part of this disaster?

01:18:57.020 What bad choices did I make?

01:18:58.480 To what extent was it my fault?

01:19:00.380 You have to do that.

01:19:01.400 That's what it is to be an adult, right?

01:19:03.120 Uh, you can't always blame other people for your problems.

01:19:06.420 They're, uh, you, it's amazing how many people aren't adults.

01:19:10.380 Uh, that's what, that's what COVID taught, taught me.

01:19:12.560 That's what Russiagate taught me.

01:19:13.880 That's what every January 6th, Syria, Ukraine.

01:19:16.800 I mean, it's amazing.

01:19:18.140 People are propagandized that they don't think they are.

01:19:20.320 That's the problem.

01:19:21.200 They think, and, uh, oh, I had something to tell you about it, but I can't remember.

01:19:25.360 But, um.

01:19:26.180 When he, when he won the first time in 16.

01:19:28.400 I thought that was going to make them change it.

01:19:29.920 They just got way worse.

01:19:31.000 They got, and chaos.

01:19:32.080 I mean, why do you think there's an open border?

01:19:34.480 There's many reasons.

01:19:35.420 One is we can't meet our recruiting goals for the military.

01:19:38.440 Exactly.

01:19:39.060 And.

01:19:39.740 Thank you for saying that.

01:19:41.040 That's what this is.

01:19:41.800 That's, that's a big part of what this is.

01:19:43.660 And I'm not making that up.

01:19:45.100 Dick Durbin said it on this floor.

01:19:47.020 Senate floor.

01:19:47.700 I remember.

01:19:48.020 Into a camera.

01:19:48.700 That that's what this, that we got to have these immigrants so we can meet our recruiting goals.

01:19:53.380 Let's give them guns.

01:19:54.200 Yeah.

01:19:54.300 They're not going to be a tool of, of the state against the population.

01:19:57.100 And then the Pentagon makes it legal for the military to murder American citizens.

01:20:02.160 Are you joking?

01:20:03.400 Yep.

01:20:03.600 And, and, and another part is of course.

01:20:05.960 And no one says anything about it.

01:20:07.080 It's a, as soon as unions start to get some power, right.

01:20:10.960 Uh, they've opened the border and flood the country with, uh, with immigrants too.

01:20:17.340 And so now we have workers, uh, desperate, poor workers.

01:20:21.840 Now they're, uh, are, their ire is turned towards even more desperate people, right?

01:20:26.960 So we put sanctions on Venezuela and, and to try to overthrow their government because it

01:20:31.940 turns out there's more oil underneath Venezuela than there is Saudi Arabia.

01:20:35.200 And so all of a sudden we got to bring their people, some democracy.

01:20:39.320 And, um, you know, why don't we let Venezuela work it out?

01:20:42.300 Cause we don't want to let them work it out.

01:20:43.920 We want to install a puppet so we could get their natural resources.

01:20:46.940 So we put sanctions on.

01:20:48.740 And the whole point of sanctions is to make the people who live there miserable.

01:20:53.240 So they're good.

01:20:54.080 So miserable.

01:20:54.600 And the idea is they'll rise up and overthrow their leader.

01:20:57.960 And then we can install a puppet.

01:20:59.440 It's never worked.

01:21:00.780 Not one time.

01:21:01.300 Not one time has it worked.

01:21:02.440 I'm trying to do it to Iran.

01:21:03.640 Not going to work.

01:21:04.500 Russia.

01:21:04.780 And Russia, it's not working.

01:21:06.560 And so those people then do become miserable.

01:21:09.220 And then they flood our own country as immigrants and say, fly them, some of them in on jets,

01:21:14.380 you know, and, uh, same thing with Haiti.

01:21:16.460 We've been wrecking their economy.

01:21:18.500 And, you know, I mean, Hillary Clinton made sure they didn't get a minimum wage.

01:21:22.800 Right.

01:21:23.240 And she, it's unbelievable what we've done.

01:21:25.300 We've stolen their natural resources.

01:21:26.640 We've stolen their gold.

01:21:27.440 We've occupied their country right now.

01:21:29.160 Joe Biden is bribing the corrupt government of Kenya to send their peacekeepers over to Haiti because the war, the people are coming together in Haiti to realize that they have more in common than to oppose these puppet regime.

01:21:44.520 And so Joe Biden doesn't want to send the Marines.

01:21:47.400 He literally gave $400 million to Kenya.

01:21:50.180 You send your people, go break up this, uh, price.

01:21:53.140 So what my point is, do people come to America and, uh, the mistake is to turn your ire towards the immigrant, which is what the establishment wants.

01:22:04.640 Right.

01:22:05.060 I would do exactly if I was in Venezuela, I'd get the hell out of there and come here and try to get a job.

01:22:09.520 If I was in Haiti, I'd get the hell out of there and try to come here and get a job, especially if I'm being encouraged to, which they, they are paid to do it.

01:22:16.220 Paid to do it.

01:22:16.840 Yeah.

01:22:17.020 So the, the, the key is to make sure you don't lose your focus, come together and keep your eye on the establishment.

01:22:24.500 That's creating those desperate people and opening the border and creating chaos.

01:22:29.060 And let's remember chaos always favors the establishment.

01:22:32.720 And so it makes you, this isn't different, right?

01:22:35.880 They, you know, Mao did a very similar thing, uh, that he, he split, he did divide and conquer.

01:22:43.300 Can I say, chaos always favors the establishment.

01:22:46.760 Yes.

01:22:47.840 Chaos always.

01:22:48.500 And if you feel like you're living in a chaotic country, it's because it's intentional.

01:22:53.320 It's so true.

01:22:54.540 Sorry, I interrupt you.

01:22:55.420 I just, but I just want, I just want that to hang in the air for a second because I think that's really wise.

01:22:59.420 And it's worth remembering, you know, 10 days out from a presidential election.

01:23:03.500 We did a live tour last month.

01:23:05.520 One of the funnest things we've ever done.

01:23:07.520 Coast to coast, 16 different cities speaking.

01:23:10.240 Well, next week, our grand finale, Halloween, October 31st, 2024 in Glendale, Arizona.

01:23:17.460 Our special guest that night, days before the presidential election, Donald Trump.

01:23:22.820 All proceeds donated to Hurricane Relief.

01:23:25.820 We're proud to do it.

01:23:26.760 Hope to see you there.

01:23:27.460 So what, I'm sorry, I interrupted.

01:23:44.620 Tell me what Mao did.

01:23:45.540 How did he use chaos?

01:23:46.280 Well, he split the people up into the good people and the bad people.

01:23:51.060 And the good people were the people who did what they were supposed to, right?

01:23:54.160 And if everybody just did what they were supposed to, we'd have this utopia.

01:23:57.940 But we can't have it because the bad people won't do it, right?

01:24:01.920 Well, just like with COVID, right?

01:24:04.160 Now, Rob Schneider makes this point, right?

01:24:06.440 In his book, which is fantastic.

01:24:08.360 That like during COVID, it was like, we could get out of this pandemic if those bad people would just take a vaccine,

01:24:15.080 which was always a lie.

01:24:16.560 You could never vaccinate your way out of this pandemic.

01:24:19.340 You could never get rid of the coronavirus.

01:24:21.380 And they couldn't.

01:24:22.480 But that was a lie.

01:24:23.240 But that kept them.

01:24:24.320 And then, so that's how it kept people divided and conquer.

01:24:28.840 And that's what it, so that's what's going on, right?

01:24:31.520 It's, why can Gavin Newsom all of a sudden clean up homelessness in San Francisco when he's having the president of China visit,

01:24:41.380 but he can't do it before and he certainly can't do it after.

01:24:44.060 What, that's all, I mean, of course, so chaos favors the estate.

01:24:47.820 They want it that way.

01:24:48.960 They want people living under bridges.

01:24:50.760 They want you being accosted by meth heads when you're going to the 7-Eleven.

01:24:56.840 They want you begging for authority, they want you to be willing to give up freedoms just like people were during COVID.

01:25:03.700 You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, screw your freedom.

01:25:06.320 Remember that famously he said?

01:25:08.040 Get out of our country.

01:25:09.180 Screw your freedom.

01:25:10.340 Yeah, I agree.

01:25:10.880 What, why would I want to screw my freedom of that?

01:25:13.880 Because that's exactly what, Maude, did you split everybody up?

01:25:16.960 The Austrian rose to the surface in short story.

01:25:19.640 Yeah, and so that's what this is.

01:25:22.460 And they want us not coming, and it's true, like me and you coming together on Syria, on Ukraine, on COVID,

01:25:31.020 this is a threat to the establishment.

01:25:33.620 They have to divide and conquer.

01:25:35.140 They can't let that happen.

01:25:36.440 I just, one time, I remember, I interviewed, I think it was during the Black Lives Matter riots.

01:25:43.260 I interviewed, there was a guy I saw at the Michigan Capitol, and he was a Boogaloo boy.

01:25:50.320 Now, the Boogaloo boy was, they were a response to the Proud Boys, right?

01:25:55.100 So they were, they didn't want to be associated with them.

01:25:57.500 They were anti-war.

01:25:59.500 They were anti-police brutality.

01:26:01.600 They were actually, they provided security for Black Lives Matter protesters.

01:26:06.580 And they, he went to the Capitol, gave a speech.

01:26:09.620 We have more in common than separates us.

01:26:11.820 We are, we are brothers.

01:26:13.080 We have common interests.

01:26:14.380 And he was there with someone from, you know, an LGBTQ organization.

01:26:17.960 He was there with a Black Lives Matter person and a, and a Boogaloo boy.

01:26:21.100 So I interviewed that Boogaloo boy.

01:26:22.580 That was the worst thing I could have ever done.

01:26:25.420 They came at me like I had never been come after.

01:26:27.720 I had written articles about me.

01:26:29.140 Jimmy Dore is a leader of the dirtbag left, and he's in bed with alt-right and these right-wingers and Nazis.

01:26:36.500 And yeah, and I was like, no, no, no.

01:26:38.180 I just interviewed a guy who, by the way, the dirty secret is those guys like those Boogaloo boys used to be Democratic voters 25 years ago.

01:26:47.120 And they're not anymore.

01:26:48.140 And they don't want you to ever talk about why they're not anymore because they've been, their backs have been, they, the Democratic Party turned their back on them.

01:26:55.300 Right.

01:26:55.960 And so I brought that guy on and I got murdered on social media, corporate news pieces, hit, hit jobs, people.

01:27:04.200 It was videos made about me to the end of the day.

01:27:07.660 And all I did was I remember I tweeted out to go, hey, I just interviewed a Boogaloo boy.

01:27:12.140 We agree on war.

01:27:14.540 We agree on LGBTQ.

01:27:16.660 We agree on black light.

01:27:17.560 We agree on all that.

01:27:18.340 I go, isn't that weird?

01:27:19.900 And boy, I got ratioed.

01:27:22.120 I got, you know, I trended for probably a week.

01:27:25.980 They could not, the establishment cannot have that.

01:27:29.000 They cannot have you coming together.

01:27:31.120 And that's the message.

01:27:32.820 That's my message is, no, you're not my enemy.

01:27:35.720 You're my neighbor.

01:27:37.020 And you are hurting just like I am.

01:27:39.260 We're under the same, you know, just like during COVID is what I tell people during my show.

01:27:44.120 You know, the establishment did a controlled demolition of our economy, which flattened everybody except a handful of millionaires and billionaires.

01:27:52.580 And they want me to be angry and hate my neighbor for the pain I'm feeling because of that, because they wouldn't take a vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place.

01:28:01.420 Well, I'm not going to hate my neighbor.

01:28:02.720 I'm going to join with my neighbor because we share a common enemy.

01:28:05.660 And that's the only way to get this out of this hellhole and this death spiral that our country's on right now.

01:28:10.540 We're in the end stage republic and people don't realize it.

01:28:13.400 They think Trump's the problem.

01:28:15.040 Then Trump is a problem.

01:28:16.340 Trump is a people willing to vote for Trump is a system of a uniparty problem that has been squashing workers for the last 50 years.

01:28:25.100 I've had people say to me, you know, Jimmy, January 6th undermine our democracy.

01:28:29.000 I'm like, you know, you're adorable because we don't live in a democracy.

01:28:31.680 We live in a flat out oligarchy, which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago.

01:28:36.720 Your democracy was stolen by corporations 50 years ago.

01:28:40.340 When are you going to get pissed off about that?

01:28:44.260 Is it that people don't want to see how deep the rod is, how big the problem is?

01:28:49.360 It's just too much for them to metabolize.

01:28:51.700 Why?

01:28:52.000 It's hard for them to believe that Barack Obama was a problem.

01:28:54.520 Like, oh, wait a minute.

01:28:55.280 He's, you know, I've had people.

01:28:56.200 He's the best president of my lifetime.

01:28:57.780 No, he was the best speaker.

01:28:59.460 He was he made you feel good.

01:29:01.860 He was again, there's a reason why he got more money from Wall Street than John McCain.

01:29:05.560 It was a reason why he instituted a right wing health care plan.

01:29:08.400 It's a reason why he let the he let him play it out at DAPL.

01:29:11.920 It's a reason why he dropped more bombs than George Bush.

01:29:14.540 It was a reason why he destroyed Libya.

01:29:16.580 He destroyed Libya.

01:29:17.420 And he's like, oh, that was a mistake, you know, and they're going to they're going to

01:29:21.140 prosecute people who a lot of them peacefully protested on January 6th.

01:29:25.920 But Dick Cheney, they go, oh, it's about the rule of law.

01:29:28.180 Why does Dick Cheney and George Bush still walk to Europe?

01:29:30.560 You know, Barack Obama was supposed to prosecute them because they ordered a worldwide torture

01:29:36.100 program.

01:29:36.820 Right.

01:29:37.060 Which is and Barack Obama is constitutionally required to prosecute them.

01:29:40.720 And he didn't.

01:29:42.260 And the public reason he gave was because he said all those those those torture crimes

01:29:46.880 happened in the past.

01:29:47.860 And Barack Obama was looking towards the future.

01:29:50.540 And well, when I heard that, I felt a lot better because all the crimes I've committed

01:29:53.720 there in the past, too.

01:29:54.980 I'm glad I'm glad we're not prosecuting past crimes.

01:29:58.220 I bet those people in prison are pissed off.

01:30:01.140 They committed their crimes in the future.

01:30:02.960 But even that we're having this conversation.

01:30:06.400 And I'm not just saying this to inject a note of optimism, but because I think I believe

01:30:10.180 it.

01:30:11.100 The fact that we're having this conversation suggests that the level of consciousness is

01:30:15.880 very different from what it was.

01:30:17.280 I think COVID woke people up.

01:30:19.360 Exactly.

01:30:19.960 So how how can you happen to monkeypox?

01:30:22.580 What happened to bird flu?

01:30:24.300 Did they was those test balloons?

01:30:25.700 Do you think people go along with it?

01:30:27.040 And then people did and they're like, all right, get rid of it.

01:30:29.520 But that's the thing.

01:30:30.620 I just I don't think people are going to go along.

01:30:33.240 I mean, if they come back, you know, in eight days or whenever it is on November 6th and say,

01:30:39.440 you know, Kamala Harris is a historic first.

01:30:42.480 She's just incredibly popular, got more votes than Barack Obama.

01:30:46.060 I'm just going to say, no, that didn't happen.

01:30:47.580 Like you're lying.

01:30:48.560 And I'm sick of having to go along being bullied into repeating your lies.

01:30:53.040 And I think a lot of people are in that frame of mind also.

01:30:57.160 Do you?

01:30:57.720 Well, you see the media is getting more panicked and they're getting more.

01:31:00.300 They should be panicked.

01:31:01.700 Yeah.

01:31:02.000 You see what's going on.

01:31:02.960 So they're quizlings.

01:31:03.900 They're collaborators with the totalitarian regime and they should be panicked.

01:31:07.840 A hundred percent.

01:31:08.800 Right.

01:31:09.060 And you see the things they want to focus on instead of what they what people want them

01:31:13.340 to focus on.

01:31:14.140 You see when MSNBC will go and they'll interview some regular voters in like Wisconsin or Michigan

01:31:20.100 and they keep bringing up they'll bring up January 6th and people like, what?

01:31:23.800 What are you talking about?

01:31:24.740 Like that doesn't affect my life.

01:31:26.020 Who cares?

01:31:26.620 Who cares about that?

01:31:27.500 You know who does care about that?

01:31:28.640 You, the liberals, the media.

01:31:31.000 And then the people who watch that media are taught that they're supposed to care because

01:31:34.920 we almost lost our democracy, which, again, I already pointed out, you don't live in a

01:31:37.980 democracy, you're a chump.

01:31:39.360 It was unarmed.

01:31:40.600 You can't have an unarmed insurrection.

01:31:42.500 These were old ladies deep in debt with diabetes who believed in the Constitution.

01:31:47.520 You could say they were wrong to think the election was stolen.

01:31:51.520 OK, that's a real debate.

01:31:52.520 Happy to have that debate.

01:31:53.520 But they believe that they were not sinister.

01:31:55.320 That was an FBI.

01:31:56.420 Yes.

01:31:56.720 That was just a regular riot that was allowed to happen and encouraged to happen by the

01:32:01.160 FBI plants in the crowd.

01:32:02.760 And how do I know that?

01:32:04.000 Well, because Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, was under congressional testimony

01:32:07.720 and he was asked, did you have FBI assets dressed up as MAGA supporters inside the Capitol

01:32:13.680 before the riot started?

01:32:15.040 And he said, I can't answer that question, which means yes.

01:32:17.880 The answer should be no, which is what the congressman said.

01:32:20.600 The answer should be no.

01:32:22.420 Well, the answer should be we're not going to continue to fund your agency if you don't

01:32:26.920 answer the question.

01:32:27.900 And we're sure not going to build you a brand new building, which they did.

01:32:30.740 Which the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, signed off on to his eternal shame.

01:32:35.440 One of the many things for which he should be ashamed.

01:32:38.060 Anyway, but yeah, no, it's, but again, we're kind of proving the point that underlies my

01:32:44.700 question, which is everybody kind of knows what's up now.

01:32:49.020 So how can you continue?

01:32:50.760 I hope so.

01:32:51.620 I just hope so.

01:32:52.500 Because we travel in different circles, right?

01:32:55.340 And, you know, I'm in liberal Hollywood and your other places, I really show in your

01:33:02.720 world.

01:33:02.900 People are still, they're, they're hypnotized.

01:33:05.300 They're in a trance.

01:33:06.020 Even now?

01:33:06.920 Yeah.

01:33:07.140 Look at the media.

01:33:08.040 I mean, they think the media is real.

01:33:09.840 They think it's the news.

01:33:11.480 Yes.

01:33:11.940 In Hollywood.

01:33:12.760 Yes.

01:33:13.480 Yes.

01:33:13.720 In Los Angeles.

01:33:14.660 So what happens when you're at a dinner party and you start dropping stuff like this?

01:33:18.120 I don't get invited to dinner parties.

01:33:20.080 Oh, is that true?

01:33:20.920 Yeah.

01:33:21.420 You're eating sushi alone in Ventura Boulevard?

01:33:23.100 That's correct.

01:33:25.340 That's correct.

01:33:27.560 Yes.

01:33:28.680 No, I mean, I, I, I, I hang out with other heretics, you know?

01:33:32.560 Really?

01:33:33.280 Yeah.

01:33:34.700 You do want, like, how could you still be hypnotized after all of, like, I get, okay,

01:33:38.980 this virus shows up from China.

01:33:41.060 You think it's, you know, got a 50% death rate or whatever.

01:33:44.240 People are afraid.

01:33:45.060 I understand.

01:33:46.440 But, you know, four years later, really?

01:33:48.860 You still think that's real?

01:33:50.660 You know what the real death rate was?

01:33:52.280 It was 0.27%.

01:33:54.480 It was, like, less than half a percent.

01:33:56.960 And, you know, that's the thing about Bill Gates, right?

01:34:00.540 He, he wants to make it, by the way, illegal to misinform, right?

01:34:05.540 He's like, well, we always had, we've always had restrictions on free, and he talks with

01:34:09.780 his hands, which is the first sign of a liar.

01:34:12.340 And he's saying, he's talking like this.

01:34:14.020 That's true.

01:34:14.380 I don't know.

01:34:14.960 I'm making it up.

01:34:15.580 But he does have, like, grandiose hand gestures, which is, that's, that's, it is a bad sign.

01:34:24.640 He, and he says, he said, we've always had restrictions on speech.

01:34:28.460 You know, you can't threaten someone's life.

01:34:31.800 And, you know, you shouldn't be allowed to misinform someone on vaccines to make them hesitant.

01:34:37.140 What did you just conflate?

01:34:39.060 You just conflated death threats against someone and talking about the vaccine.

01:34:43.060 You see that?

01:34:44.000 And he's a number one investor.

01:34:45.620 And so people don't know this, but as soon as Bill Gates, he invested $50 million in

01:34:50.380 Pfizer, and then it went up during COVID, and he cashed out at $550 million.

01:34:56.180 And as soon as he cashed out, he started shitting on the vaccine.

01:34:59.040 I don't know if you saw the video, but he was, I play this on my show all the time.

01:35:03.020 He said, well, we didn't know at the beginning that it had a low fatality rate, and that it

01:35:08.700 affected mostly just the elderly, kind of like the flu, but a bit different.

01:35:12.740 Now, they don't play that on MSNBC, CNN, fuck.

01:35:15.800 They don't play that anywhere, right?

01:35:16.960 I play it on my show, right?

01:35:18.500 Which is why I'm borderline content.

01:35:20.780 And, but there it is.

01:35:21.540 And I'm like, well, why would, and he's like, yeah, there was a lot of problems with the

01:35:24.920 vaccine.

01:35:25.440 They weren't infection blocking.

01:35:26.980 They didn't have long-term data.

01:35:28.880 And I'm like, whoa, whoa.

01:35:30.280 All he had to do was cash in his stock, and he immediately starts telling the truth.

01:35:33.340 But I'm like, I bet there's something else up.

01:35:35.800 And soon enough, or immediately after that, he started selling this new vaccine that you

01:35:41.500 inhaled through your nose.

01:35:43.300 And he said, these are better.

01:35:44.880 These are infection blocking, and these are long-lasting.

01:35:47.520 And I'm like, well, let's see.

01:35:49.680 He's invested in the company that's making that out of India.

01:35:52.960 But why?

01:35:53.600 I mean, this is the point where I get religious, because I don't understand why someone like

01:35:59.840 Bill Gates, or Larry Fink, or really any of these people who have multiple billion dollars

01:36:06.280 would care about making more money.

01:36:08.700 I think that's really diseased.

01:36:10.960 Like, that is money worship.

01:36:12.060 But I'm not against being rich.

01:36:14.140 I like making money, I guess, but not that much.

01:36:17.500 But some.

01:36:18.760 I like not being in debt.

01:36:19.980 Okay, I get that.

01:36:21.200 You know, I want people to have more money.

01:36:22.280 But if you've got billions of dollars, like, why would you spend any time making more?

01:36:27.380 I think that's really sick.

01:36:29.200 Well, that, I think that, you know, it becomes a, it's a game to these.

01:36:34.120 It's what gives their life meaning.

01:36:35.780 They don't have any other meaning, right?

01:36:38.560 I mean, except for, you know, covering up his trips to Jeffrey Epstein's Island.

01:36:43.520 They don't have any other meaning.

01:36:44.740 What else is there?

01:36:46.680 And it's control.

01:36:47.580 He's a maniac, right?

01:36:49.200 That people, because he wears a crew neck sweater and glasses, they think he's a nerd and he's a good person.

01:36:54.840 You know, just like, well, just like Rachel Maddow wouldn't lie to you.

01:36:58.600 She's, she's gay.

01:37:00.160 Gay people don't lie.

01:37:01.460 Chris, Chris Hayes.

01:37:02.720 Chris Hayes is a nerd.

01:37:04.000 He wouldn't lie to you.

01:37:04.900 That's why they got those people.

01:37:06.240 Well, he's trans.

01:37:06.800 Yeah.

01:37:07.100 So why would you lie?

01:37:07.960 Yeah.

01:37:08.120 That's why they got those people.

01:37:09.740 Because they, exactly though, you wouldn't think they would lie to you.

01:37:12.460 And that's why they hired them.

01:37:14.200 And then they go along.

01:37:15.940 So same thing with, with, with, uh, Bill Gates.

01:37:19.160 I mean, he is never, he wasn't an inventor.

01:37:22.160 He wasn't particularly, but he was a, he was a good monopolist and he knew how to crush other businesses.

01:37:27.340 He didn't write the code.

01:37:28.740 He bought the code and, uh, and he, he knew how to become a monopolist, right?

01:37:32.980 Remember there, there were times when people were throwing pies in his face.

01:37:35.980 Do you remember that?

01:37:36.860 Very well.

01:37:37.260 And the media had turned against him.

01:37:38.900 And so he had like, well, I can't let this happen.

01:37:41.460 So then he started by the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:37:44.840 He started buying off media companies and he started starting journalism schools and people.

01:37:50.540 Yeah.

01:37:50.880 Stuff like that.

01:37:51.440 So like, uh, for instance, PBS news hour didn't have like a science, uh, segment.

01:37:57.500 He funded it.

01:37:58.780 Right.

01:37:59.360 And so that, then they, he would.

01:38:02.040 Bill Gates funded PBS science coverage.

01:38:04.800 Yeah.

01:38:05.060 So the, he, so he's there funding, uh, the creation of the, the, uh, research for a vaccine.

01:38:12.820 He then funds the coverage of that.

01:38:15.200 And then he funds the NGO that's going to distribute the vaccine.

01:38:18.760 I mean, he's got it coming and going, you know, that he's, uh, co-opted the media.

01:38:24.360 That's why he's seen as a media darling.

01:38:25.860 Now people think he's a great guy.

01:38:27.340 You know, I've had, uh, again, people said, Jimmy, he's just trying to end malaria in Africa.

01:38:32.440 He's trying to, he said, I'm like, well, if you listen to exactly what has happened, uh, and why there's certain country, countries that don't want to do business.

01:38:40.740 In fact, I think there's lawsuits against him in other countries.

01:38:43.980 Uh, and if what he actually did in, what he actually did in Africa, listen to Bobby Kennedy.

01:38:49.180 He'll tell you what I, I'm not an expert on it, but I've listened to Bobby Kennedy talking.

01:38:53.240 It's nefarious.

01:38:54.420 It's gross and, uh, it's egregious.

01:38:57.540 Uh, so I think he's just a megalomaniac and, um, yeah, I think that that doesn't go away.

01:39:04.660 Right.

01:39:05.500 That, that he, that's, that's where he gets his life meaning from.

01:39:08.920 But these, I guess what I'm saying is, what about Jeff Bezos?

01:39:11.180 He hasn't made enough money.

01:39:12.580 He's not stopping Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos.

01:39:15.360 I mean, come on.

01:39:16.100 What do you make of speaking of Bezos?

01:39:18.060 Um, and all these guys who care about global warming, like Jeff Zuckerberg, uh, or Mark Zuckerberg,

01:39:25.060 do you see his new yacht?

01:39:26.980 It's, uh.

01:39:27.300 Because he cares about global warming.

01:39:28.100 Because he cares about, it's got four diesel engines on it, but I bet, I bet it's, he's got

01:39:31.740 an electric stove on it.

01:39:34.320 I mean, well, I mean, I think the purpose of those yachts is, well, to go to the south

01:39:38.820 of France in the summertime, which is fun, but also it's to escape the mess that they're

01:39:43.920 making now.

01:39:45.040 Yeah.

01:39:45.680 Obviously.

01:39:46.040 But Zuckerberg's is five feet shorter than Bezos, because, you know, he's a man of the

01:39:49.760 people.

01:39:51.120 So what do you make, so Bezos's paper, the Washington Post, which is the official organ

01:39:56.100 of the intel agencies, and has been for many, many decades, um, refused to endorse Kamala

01:40:02.560 Harris.

01:40:03.700 And Bezos has taken, you know, Bob Kagan, one of the dumbest people in Washington, Tori Newland's

01:40:09.760 husband, former coworker of mine, truly a mouth breather, like an idiot.

01:40:14.320 But, uh, but he resigns in protest because democracy is dying in darkness because they

01:40:18.980 didn't endorse Kamala Harris or something.

01:40:21.840 What, what do you make of all this?

01:40:23.940 Well, it's funny to watch the liberal class wake up to the fact that, uh, hey, maybe it's

01:40:28.600 not a good idea to have a handful of billionaires run our media.

01:40:31.120 It's like, oh, what, you mean he's doing this for business interests?

01:40:34.740 Yes.

01:40:35.420 That's why he's, he's doing this because he wants to have to continue his billions and

01:40:40.720 billions of dollars of contracts with the CIA and the government.

01:40:43.960 And he's afraid that Trump will step in the way of that.

01:40:46.420 Plus he's got, uh, he's now wanted to do the space.

01:40:49.060 That's why Elon Musk is a threat to him.

01:40:51.600 Right.

01:40:51.920 And, uh, doing contracts with the government for space exploration and that kind of stuff.

01:40:56.380 That's what this is about.

01:40:57.700 That's exactly what this is about.

01:40:59.420 And so the same thing happened with the LA times, you know, they're like, oh, there's

01:41:02.880 another billionaire that owns it.

01:41:04.420 Maybe we shouldn't have billionaires.

01:41:05.920 And so it's, they were okay with it as long as he was going along.

01:41:09.540 Do you think Jeff Bezos bought the Washington post because he's committed to the truth?

01:41:14.340 Are you kidding me?

01:41:15.360 He's got there because he needs to manufacture consent.

01:41:18.760 He's got that because he wants to control the narrative.

01:41:21.180 That's what that's about.

01:41:22.240 And as long as it went along with their hates, uh, they were okay with it.

01:41:26.560 Right.

01:41:27.080 And how does this coalition, the democratic coalition hold together?

01:41:31.580 It's got a bunch of different component parts, rich white ladies, obviously being the

01:41:35.380 pivotal, uh, component, but lots of others, poor black people, immigrants, gays, but it

01:41:42.300 is falling apart.

01:41:43.160 It, well, those, here's just my meta view of it as a complete outsider.

01:41:48.320 These are groups don't have common interests.

01:41:50.760 So I'm not really sure other than like hating straight white men, which is not really a reason

01:41:54.940 to have a party over time.

01:41:56.220 It's not that interesting or meaningful really.

01:41:58.900 What, like, how could you hold that coalition together?

01:42:02.460 Um, they're, they're just doing it with propaganda and hatred and the fear, right?

01:42:07.060 Fear works.

01:42:08.440 And, um.

01:42:09.760 Um, but is it falling apart?

01:42:11.440 Well, I, I'm pretty sure I saw a headline the other day that said that Trump is winning

01:42:16.560 the Hispanic vote.

01:42:17.540 That's like, I mean, yeah, that's incredible.

01:42:20.420 Like just, he's not, he's not making the most gains.

01:42:22.360 I'm pretty sure it could fact check me on that.

01:42:24.740 But, um, you know, more black people are voting for him, uh, than any other Republican.

01:42:31.100 And, uh, it's, it's, hopefully people are waking up that the, that the democratic rule

01:42:37.320 isn't materially improving their lives.

01:42:40.020 And I think a lot of people, I think Hispanics, I mean, um, are against, uh, illegal immigration.

01:42:47.660 Oh, big time.

01:42:48.960 Oh, big time they are.

01:42:50.340 That's, that's for real.

01:42:52.860 Uh.

01:42:53.100 Oh, yeah.

01:42:54.140 For lots of different reasons, moral and practical, they're against it.

01:42:57.940 And how patronizing to assume that you'd be for crime just because you share the same

01:43:03.000 sounding last name as the people committing.

01:43:05.580 And it's like insane.

01:43:06.520 That's so, talk about racist.

01:43:08.880 Well, what is, you know, the whole thing of that, uh, which I'm surprised Trump doesn't

01:43:13.080 make a bigger deal out of is that, you know, Trump did the step back, which, uh, released

01:43:18.040 a lot of nonviolent black people from prison, which is the opposite of what Joe Biden and

01:43:22.440 Kamala Harris did.

01:43:23.260 Joe Biden wrote the crime bill.

01:43:24.440 He still brags about it.

01:43:25.380 Won't apologize for it, which is why black and brown people are locked up at way higher

01:43:29.020 rates than their population.

01:43:30.300 And Kamala Harris kept black and brown people in prison, uh, after a federal judge ordered

01:43:37.520 her to release them in California three times.

01:43:40.380 And her office argued in court that we have to keep them in prison because it would upset

01:43:45.320 the prison labor force.

01:43:46.780 So what she's literally doing is, I need to keep them as slaves.

01:43:50.520 I mean, that's what she did.

01:43:51.920 She, she kept, uh, black and brown people in prison for slavery because that's what it

01:43:56.420 is.

01:43:57.080 And, uh, Trump never brings that up.

01:43:58.900 It's weird.

01:43:59.360 I don't know, maybe because he feels like it will make her seem more, you know, a fighter

01:44:03.380 of crime, but she's actually, I mean, she targeted black single mothers, uh, when she

01:44:07.680 was going to pump, uh, she went after and prosecuted the parents of truants.

01:44:13.120 And who did she target?

01:44:14.340 She targeted black single parents and I've covered it on my show.

01:44:18.020 She did that.

01:44:18.580 And then she called out the press to go in and cover it when they were being perp walked

01:44:23.200 single mothers, black mothers.

01:44:25.100 And the one woman who I covered, her daughter had sickle cell anemia.

01:44:29.380 She was in hospital and everybody knew this.

01:44:32.780 Kamala Harris didn't care.

01:44:34.140 She sent the, uh, the cops to go arrest her and she lost her house.

01:44:38.280 She lost her job.

01:44:39.580 Her kid had a stroke.

01:44:41.660 Um, and that, that's who Kamala Harris is, right?

01:44:45.040 That's who she always has been.

01:44:46.640 And that's who Joe Biden is.

01:44:48.440 And I don't, it's, it's funny that how they can flip that script on Trump.

01:44:52.300 I, I tried to re remind people, uh, that, Hey, you know, the reason why black and brown

01:44:56.580 people are locked up isn't because of Donald Trump.

01:44:58.580 It's because of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

01:45:01.360 And they didn't say they just can't compute.

01:45:03.460 It just goes against, you know, uh, whenever I've had, I'll have a conversation with someone,

01:45:07.900 uh, from my old life and I'll, I'll do an information, uh, dump like this on them.

01:45:14.080 And, uh, I'll never forget.

01:45:15.180 I just had a conversation with a comedian friend of mine and there was just like a long silent

01:45:19.320 pause and he goes, that's a lot to, it's a lot to think about.

01:45:23.740 That's what does that mean?

01:45:25.260 That's a lot to think about.

01:45:26.280 Like it means I'm not going to think about it.

01:45:28.340 Yeah.

01:45:28.620 It means I'm not going to think about it.

01:45:30.120 It's too much.

01:45:30.780 And there's no way you could be telling me the truth and, but I'm not going to look into

01:45:34.520 it because that would be doing my own research, Tucker.

01:45:37.360 And you're not supposed to do your own research.

01:45:39.260 No, we've, we've got mom to do that for us.

01:45:42.580 Can I, let me just insert another, I'm trying to, to break the, the, the wall of, of pessimism

01:45:48.740 here.

01:45:49.520 So Bobby Kennedy, if you had checked in with any American who knew who Bobby Kennedy was

01:45:53.740 for the last 20 years and said, who's Bobby Kennedy?

01:45:55.600 He's the guy who falsely connects vaccines with autism.

01:46:00.040 And that's why he was not allowed in the New York times.

01:46:02.320 That's why he was called a Nazi.

01:46:03.620 It's kind of speaking of drummed out of polite society.

01:46:05.920 He was after that Rolling Stone piece about 20 years ago, connecting autism with vaccines.

01:46:12.720 Even the, even the autism organizations denounced him.

01:46:15.960 That's how in the tank they are.

01:46:17.300 But, but you never hear anybody criticize him for that anymore.

01:46:23.220 It does feel like there has been a change, even in the media on that question.

01:46:28.960 There has been.

01:46:29.580 I saw a guy on CNBC the other day, like some head of, some CEO talk about 72 shots.

01:46:35.280 He's like, that's exactly.

01:46:36.360 Do you see that?

01:46:36.900 No, I didn't.

01:46:37.740 But I see people who, well, even I was never against vaccine.

01:46:42.240 I mean, I've never spent four minutes thinking about vaccines.

01:46:44.520 Me either.

01:46:44.760 Right.

01:46:45.280 So, but I see, but because of my job, I had to.

01:46:48.740 But I see people, it was very normal people who don't think it's outrageous to ask, is there

01:46:55.700 a connection between the vaccine schedule and the rise in autism?

01:47:01.160 That wall seems to have been breached.

01:47:04.140 People's minds seem more open.

01:47:05.460 Am I imagining this?

01:47:06.560 Well, it used to be people like Jim Carrey.

01:47:09.180 Right.

01:47:09.420 Well, exactly.

01:47:10.600 It used to be people like Robert De Niro.

01:47:13.440 Really?

01:47:13.940 Oh, Robert De Niro.

01:47:14.820 I have a clip of him on the Today Show.

01:47:16.480 There was that movie.

01:47:17.400 I think it was the first Unvaxxed or something like that, that was supposed to play at his

01:47:21.500 Soho Film Festival.

01:47:24.040 And there was a big, they didn't want it to air.

01:47:27.000 They didn't want him to show it.

01:47:28.140 And he was on the Today Show and he's like, there's something there.

01:47:31.680 You have to look at it.

01:47:32.860 There's something there.

01:47:33.740 It's a direct quote.

01:47:35.060 No way.

01:47:35.960 Yeah.

01:47:36.240 If that video's out there, I've showed it on my show.

01:47:38.600 And then all of a sudden he got the phone call and that was that.

01:47:43.700 He never talked about it again.

01:47:45.220 And that film didn't get, in fact, I had the guy who did the film on my show.

01:47:49.160 That film didn't air.

01:47:50.620 And that was that.

01:47:51.900 Yeah.

01:47:52.340 So it used to be people like that.

01:47:55.060 And yeah, there were like, and I remember just in the interest of full disclosure and

01:48:00.100 honesty and repentance, I remember making fun of them.

01:48:03.660 Me too.

01:48:04.220 So that's where I was at the time, which was unthinking and stupid and reactionary.

01:48:09.940 And I apologize for that.

01:48:11.700 But I just, again, I feel like there's been a massive change just on the ground, as we

01:48:16.540 say, with normal people and their willingness to entertain new ideas.

01:48:21.140 Well, when, you know, autism goes from one in 10,000 to now, the last I saw was in California.

01:48:29.160 It's like one in 22, some crazy low number like that.

01:48:33.720 I think enough people have been affected and touched by it that they are questioning.

01:48:37.760 And so, you know, I used to always say, you know, conservatives can't understand a problem

01:48:43.220 until it affects them directly.

01:48:45.020 But it turns out it's everybody.

01:48:46.820 Yeah, that's right.

01:48:47.280 It turns out that's everybody.

01:48:48.480 But so when it affects you directly to me, you know, I didn't look into COVID policy until

01:48:54.340 I got vaccine injured.

01:48:55.820 And then as soon as I got vaccine injured, I was like, I was put into a study and what

01:49:01.200 some of the drug, one of the drugs was ivermectin that they were giving me.

01:49:04.200 And I was like, hey.

01:49:05.340 And then they explained to me, Jimmy, this is on the WHO list of essential medicines.

01:49:09.140 It won the Nobel Prize.

01:49:11.080 It's been prescribed billions of times.

01:49:12.580 That's not what they told me on MSNBC.

01:49:14.660 And before COVID, it was looked at as a miracle drug.

01:49:17.560 They were saying it could cure cancer.

01:49:19.700 And I looked at the doctor and I said, well, why would they be saying this?

01:49:22.340 And he explained because they can't get their emergency use authorization if this actually

01:49:27.020 treats it, even though in their own literature, it says it does treat coronavirus.

01:49:31.120 And I was like, well, what else are they lying about?

01:49:34.440 And it turned out, Tucker, there wasn't a thing they weren't lying about.

01:49:37.200 They were lying about the origin of the virus.

01:49:39.160 We all know.

01:49:40.020 They were lying about funding it.

01:49:41.540 They were lying about herd immunity.

01:49:43.340 They were lying about natural immunity.

01:49:44.800 They were lying about transmission.

01:49:46.500 They were lying about contraction.

01:49:48.340 They were lying about masks.

01:49:49.580 They were lying about lockdowns.

01:49:51.340 There wasn't anything that they would lie about.

01:49:53.460 And they were lying about the danger of the vaccine.

01:49:56.100 That's what I mean.

01:49:56.640 The side effect.

01:49:57.160 Yeah.

01:49:57.740 And you unfortunately lived that.

01:50:00.140 Yeah, I still do.

01:50:01.500 Yeah.

01:50:01.780 So I had nerve damage from it.

01:50:03.600 I had an occipital neuralgia, among other things.

01:50:06.200 My blood pressure went through the, or I had a one, my blood pressure was 180 over 140.

01:50:10.580 I mean, I was in bad shape.

01:50:12.380 And, um.

01:50:12.980 That's like stroke level.

01:50:13.940 Yeah.

01:50:14.240 I could have had a stroke.

01:50:15.040 Yeah.

01:50:16.160 And I thought, I mean, who knows?

01:50:17.960 I might've had many strokes.

01:50:19.000 Uh, but anyway, um, so I don't, I don't know what the question was, but the COVID thing is what, wow.

01:50:26.380 I'd be, yeah.

01:50:26.860 I just, the people's minds are up.

01:50:28.000 It's like four years ago, if we'd had this conversation, even just exactly what you said over the past two minutes, that would have been considered like, whoa.

01:50:35.840 First of all, don't talk about your vaccine injury, you selfish prick.

01:50:40.460 Like, how dare you?

01:50:42.200 I had people come at me on, you know, again, people I know.

01:50:45.560 Why are you talking about it?

01:50:47.320 Don't, you're going to make people vaccine hesitant.

01:50:50.040 And I was like, well.

01:50:50.580 They said that to your face?

01:50:51.580 They said it to me on, on, online.

01:50:53.680 Right?

01:50:54.140 Wow.

01:50:54.700 Yeah.

01:50:55.340 This is, I don't go on Facebook.

01:50:57.140 Facebook is miserable.

01:50:58.740 I go on Twitter, right?

01:51:00.140 Cause you can actually get news and stuff from there.

01:51:02.460 And people would come at me and attack me on Twitter like that.

01:51:05.060 I'm just like, you don't, you don't know.

01:51:06.960 I mean, I get that you don't know anything about COVID, but why are you so loud about it?

01:51:10.920 Right?

01:51:12.700 No, that's.

01:51:13.920 Boy, isn't that the truth.

01:51:15.120 Yeah.

01:51:15.600 And none of that, I mean, some of my favorite comedians, you know, I've talked about this in my special.

01:51:19.940 I talk about it on stage and talk about it on my show.

01:51:22.800 But my, some of my favorite comedians that I looked up to the, in their special, they

01:51:26.560 would shame people for trying to get informed about COVID and an experimental medical treatment.

01:51:31.400 They would shame them.

01:51:32.600 And I'm like, if you're, you're shaming people, you know, you're not supposed to shame people

01:51:36.780 for questioning authority.

01:51:37.980 You're supposed to shame people for following rules without questioning authority.

01:51:41.580 And if you're shaming people for questioning authority, you're not doing comedy.

01:51:44.660 You're selling cars.

01:51:45.940 I don't know what the hell you're doing, but it broke my heart.

01:51:49.080 Who did that?

01:51:49.780 I don't want to name names, but they're.

01:51:51.700 But, but, but like legit comedians, legit the top, the top comics.

01:51:55.860 Well, I know the late night guys did that.

01:51:57.400 Oh, all of them.

01:51:58.660 All of them.

01:51:59.140 And that was shameful.

01:52:00.260 Just shameful, disgusting.

01:52:02.500 It was, and they'll never apologize.

01:52:04.560 They'll never, they'll.

01:52:05.480 Well, they'll also never recover.

01:52:06.820 They will never recover from that.

01:52:08.560 Well, it's funny that Greg Goldfeld now creams them all in the ratings.

01:52:12.540 Well, that's exactly right.

01:52:13.620 Case in point.

01:52:14.640 Who watches that shit anyway?

01:52:16.220 It's, it's, it's, hey, you want to have some superficial comp, it's all like, they're all

01:52:21.220 sitting there.

01:52:21.620 You say the talking point from the, from the studio.

01:52:24.720 I'll say the talking point from the studio.

01:52:26.480 We'll pretend we're having a real conversation.

01:52:28.240 Late night talk shows are the most boring, stupid, vapid.

01:52:32.220 They're just unbelievably stupid.

01:52:34.100 I know.

01:52:34.320 I can't believe who watches.

01:52:36.060 Is there anybody over 16 years old that watches that stuff?

01:52:39.580 No.

01:52:40.060 I can't imagine.

01:52:41.320 What can you imagine?

01:52:42.340 How, but your brain must be mushed to be able to, there's actual shows out there now.

01:52:46.800 There's shows like this.

01:52:48.060 There's shows like Joe.

01:52:49.180 There's shows where people have real conversations about really interesting things and they're not

01:52:54.480 trying to sell you anything.

01:52:56.480 I don't, I don't get how those shows, again, but there must be important for the propaganda.

01:53:01.060 They, that's why that, you know, that's what keeps them going.

01:53:04.220 I guess they must make money somehow.

01:53:06.200 I just think there were at a point where the people in charge have really only two options.

01:53:12.300 One is the one that I hope they'll choose, which is to look inside and ask as every adult

01:53:17.820 should, how did I play a role and what went wrong?

01:53:21.380 You know, what, what did I, you know, seriously, like just take a look inside.

01:53:24.680 I mean, that's the basis of AA.

01:53:25.960 It's why it's the basis of joy actually.

01:53:29.200 So they do that or they have to use real force to get people to comply.

01:53:33.560 They can no longer do it through propaganda exclusively or through any kind of consent

01:53:38.840 manufacturer or real.

01:53:40.800 They have to just go right to force because people just don't believe it anymore.

01:53:44.660 They have no authority.

01:53:46.360 Well, they did force during COVID.

01:53:47.500 They forced you, you couldn't travel.

01:53:49.340 You couldn't go to work.

01:53:50.640 They fired people.

01:53:51.680 Like I said, you know, 70,000 healthcare workers.

01:53:53.800 Yes, they used force, but they had the capos like in the population enforcing it.

01:53:59.620 Yeah, the PMCs.

01:54:00.600 A hundred percent.

01:54:02.800 And I just feel like that, you know, some of whom, all of whom have my contempt, I will

01:54:08.060 say, and all of whom should apologize.

01:54:10.080 But many of whom are totally sincere in believing that the lady at the grocery store without the

01:54:14.020 mask was a threat to everyone's life.

01:54:15.500 Like they really believe that.

01:54:16.740 I believed it.

01:54:18.100 A lot of people did.

01:54:18.820 I got in a fight with my brother over it because I thought he was being reckless and

01:54:24.520 Selfish, right?

01:54:25.560 Selfish.

01:54:26.040 Yeah.

01:54:26.380 Yeah.

01:54:26.740 And being dumb.

01:54:27.600 And I was, oh, I was so, I was that person.

01:54:30.540 So I, I have compassion for those people who are propagandized.

01:54:34.780 Yes, yes.

01:54:35.340 I do too.

01:54:36.400 Because I was one of them.

01:54:38.120 But I just think that that population is really small now.

01:54:41.560 So if you want to continue with your fake democracy, if you want to continue looting the

01:54:47.240 country, you just kind of have to pull out the gun and say, obey.

01:54:50.660 At this point, they really have to go to force.

01:54:52.820 And I think that's why they've now allowed the Pentagon to murder American citizens who

01:54:57.900 won't comply.

01:54:58.820 I mean, I don't, what's the other explanation?

01:55:01.020 Yeah, that, that, it's almost seems too crazy to believe, right?

01:55:05.180 Well, they did it.

01:55:05.940 I mean, that just happened.

01:55:06.860 That's real.

01:55:07.600 Yeah.

01:55:07.860 I saw it.

01:55:08.400 I'm like, boy, if I didn't, they're not, not doing it for, I mean, they're doing it

01:55:12.600 for a reason.

01:55:13.360 Yeah, you think?

01:55:14.480 They're like, oh boy, they're getting ready, right?

01:55:16.400 They're getting ready to do, so I thought, my first thought was they're getting ready

01:55:20.480 to throw the election.

01:55:21.380 And then when people protest, they're going to go in and squelch it and say, look, these

01:55:24.320 people are all, just like we said, they're always violent.

01:55:26.580 They're doing January 6th, but they're doing it on a grander scale.

01:55:29.340 They're doing, that's what, that's what I think, that's what that, that was, I could

01:55:32.060 be wrong.

01:55:32.560 That's just a guess, but they're doing it not for a good reason.

01:55:36.220 Not for a good, well, I just don't think they've, they're sort of out of options.

01:55:39.100 And we may look back wistfully at a time when they can control the population

01:55:44.380 with CNN, you know, when Wolf Blitzer was enough to get people to obey.

01:55:50.200 And now that, you know, it's a joke, they're all a joke, but we know they're a joke.

01:55:54.780 The kidnapper has taken off his mask, like he doesn't have any choice, he has to kill

01:55:58.180 us.

01:55:58.500 Well, that's why they're, the digital currency is such a big deal, I think, because they

01:56:02.300 can control you through digital currency.

01:56:04.260 And I mean, look what they did to the truckers in Canada.

01:56:06.400 Uh, they cut off their funds and now you can't do anything.

01:56:09.640 You can't go anywhere.

01:56:10.400 And even, even people who donated to them got in trouble and got their funds frozen.

01:56:14.720 So if they can.

01:56:15.800 Including their Bitcoin.

01:56:17.820 They froze people's Bitcoin.

01:56:20.120 How did they do that?

01:56:21.120 Through the exchanges.

01:56:22.900 Oh, I thought that was the whole beauty of Bitcoin.

01:56:25.620 That's what I thought too.

01:56:26.780 That's what I thought too.

01:56:27.920 And I think it could be the beauty of, I'm not attacking Bitcoin just to be clear, but a

01:56:32.400 lot of the crypto people, if you ask them directly, and I was at the Crispo conference

01:56:36.540 in August in Nashville, because I care about it.

01:56:39.800 I said, well, wait a second.

01:56:40.600 I thought the promise of Bitcoin was autonomy.

01:56:43.200 And they're like, well, yeah, you can have autonomy.

01:56:45.500 And I said, well, how do you, how about you make it easy for me to conduct business in

01:56:49.140 Bitcoin?

01:56:49.520 Just simple transactions.

01:56:50.820 You know what I mean?

01:56:51.400 Buy a car in Bitcoin.

01:56:52.600 Um, that's not a Tesla, you know, and, and keep it private because it's my money.

01:56:57.060 I made the money.

01:56:57.640 There's no reason the government should have any role in it at all.

01:56:59.620 I should be able to do it secretly.

01:57:00.420 And that's what you told me I was going to be able to do.

01:57:02.760 It's not just a pump and dump scheme.

01:57:04.500 You sleazeball.

01:57:05.620 It's not just about you getting rich and moving to Puerto Rico to pay no taxes.

01:57:08.840 It's about returning freedom to the population of the freest country in the world.

01:57:12.920 That's what you told me it was.

01:57:14.280 And they're like, well, you could do that, but you have to have a wallet, whatever.

01:57:17.980 I mean, it's just somebody.

01:57:19.860 And I think a lot of the Bitcoin people are totally sincere and great people.

01:57:22.800 And I'm not, I don't, you know, but somebody needs to make it easy for the average

01:57:28.280 person to use Bitcoin as intended, which is as a vehicle for financial freedom as a way

01:57:34.600 to evade control.

01:57:35.580 Yeah.

01:57:35.920 Evade control.

01:57:36.740 You need to do that soon.

01:57:37.820 I think.

01:57:38.380 I, I, well, what's happening in El Salvador?

01:57:41.620 Isn't, isn't.

01:57:42.260 A lot's happening.

01:57:43.160 That's great.

01:57:43.800 I mean, I, again, I'm not attacking Bitcoin and the promise of Bitcoin is the promise

01:57:47.760 of freedom.

01:57:48.180 And I support it vehemently.

01:57:50.140 We need that because the digital currency, they're already doing, implementing it voluntarily.

01:57:55.680 Like you can, they're going to track your carbon purchases on your credit card.

01:58:00.220 Have you seen this?

01:58:01.080 No.

01:58:01.440 Yeah.

01:58:01.600 They're starting to implement it voluntarily and they're going to let you know your carbon

01:58:06.700 purchases.

01:58:07.680 And so they've already got a plan in place.

01:58:10.220 They've already have mechanisms to do this.

01:58:11.900 Of course.

01:58:12.480 And so all they can say is the, you know, I foresee a day not too far away where they say,

01:58:17.280 Hey, you know, you're, we don't like how you're spending your money.

01:58:19.520 Of course.

01:58:20.220 It's too much carbon.

01:58:21.320 So we're going to freeze and you can't spend it on the things you want to spend it on.

01:58:24.520 And you've got to do this and you've got to get an electric stove and electric stoves

01:58:28.400 are the dumb, and the, uh, we got to get an electric car.

01:58:31.540 And where does the power for the electric car come from?

01:58:33.680 A coal plant.

01:58:34.480 And, uh, it's just so.

01:58:35.700 No, no, actually a coal plant.

01:58:36.800 Yeah.

01:58:37.180 I know.

01:58:37.640 It's crazy what's going on.

01:58:39.080 It's a, they, they've been fed a bill of goods.

01:58:41.680 And by the way, the, the, I, I, I read an article that said that if, if when you get

01:58:47.780 like a Tesla or an electric car, that's the equivalent of having 20 refrigerators in your

01:58:52.640 house.

01:58:52.900 Right.

01:58:53.600 So they already have an energy crisis.

01:58:56.280 I mean, whenever it gets, it hits 90 degrees in California, they were like, Hey, everybody

01:58:59.900 be careful.

01:59:01.180 They can't handle the electric, the electric kid can't handle.

01:59:03.540 So if everybody got an electric car anyway, it would, but you couldn't do it.

01:59:07.280 So I don't understand.

01:59:08.720 So this is, again, this is just propaganda.

01:59:10.760 And the people who are telling you, uh, that you have to, uh, be tracked on your digit, your

01:59:15.720 carbon footprint and drive electric cars and use electric stoves and you can't use a

01:59:20.660 gas powered leaf blower anymore are the same people who don't ban private jet travel, which

01:59:25.900 is going through the roof, literally through the roof.

01:59:29.000 And they're like, uh, and then they'll say, well, well, I buy carbon offsets.

01:59:31.920 No, but if you really thought global warming was real, you wouldn't apply the private jet

01:59:35.840 because you know, that's contributing.

01:59:37.180 You would buy the carbon offset anyway.

01:59:39.000 You'd be trying to do so.

01:59:40.160 They won't.

01:59:40.640 The people who keep telling me about this, like John Kerry and Bill Gates, they don't,

01:59:45.380 they don't really believe it.

01:59:46.900 That's just not for one.

01:59:48.320 There's a, you can, even if you believe in carbon-based climate change, the, any of their

01:59:53.880 solutions are bullshit, they're false prophets, they're fake clergy.

01:59:57.940 Yes.

01:59:58.800 And I don't, so I, after Russiagate, after Ukraine, after Syria, after COVID, I don't

02:00:05.580 believe anything that they say, including when it comes to climate change.

02:00:09.700 I don't believe them.

02:00:10.240 Of course not.

02:00:11.520 And it's just, it's about control.

02:00:12.980 It's incumbent on them to prove it to me.

02:00:14.880 So my last question is to get a snapshot of where we think, where you think we're going.

02:00:19.420 Um, election is, you know, imminent.

02:00:21.340 And how many people do you know, liberals, former, you know, progressive types, um, are

02:00:27.520 voting for Trump?

02:00:29.860 Well, the ones that come, uh, ones, uh, ones that I meet doing comedy, um, again, in not,

02:00:36.360 not many in Hollywood, not still really, no, uh, come on.

02:00:41.220 No, no, no, no.

02:00:42.700 I mean, I've had people, I'll have people secretly admit to me they got vaccine injured.

02:00:47.480 The secretly, they won't say it out loud.

02:00:49.120 Like I'll come off stage and there'll be a famous comedian.

02:00:52.580 I won't say.

02:00:53.900 And they'll say, uh, yeah, I got a shingles in my eye when I got the vaccine and stuff

02:00:58.820 like that.

02:00:59.280 And I'm like, you don't talk about it.

02:01:00.740 No.

02:01:01.820 Oh, I've had people email me and say, Hey, keep talking about it.

02:01:04.660 I got myocarditis.

02:01:06.320 No way.

02:01:07.300 Yes.

02:01:08.000 So they've so internalized the guilt and shame from CNN that they can't even admit that

02:01:11.920 they were a victim of a crime.

02:01:13.640 They don't want to be ostracized from polite society.

02:01:16.280 I mean, you can't do that.

02:01:17.600 How is it different from a woman saying I was gang raped, but I can't tell anybody

02:01:20.660 cause I'll be blamed for it.

02:01:22.100 That's sick.

02:01:23.120 It's sick.

02:01:23.680 It is sick.

02:01:24.560 I agree with you.

02:01:25.420 So, uh, you know, my audience is different.

02:01:28.740 So when I go out and I travel, I meet all types of people.

02:01:31.580 People come to my audience, come to my shows and I meet them and they, they range from hippies

02:01:36.780 to ex-military, to police, to firemen, to labor organizers, to nurses, to teachers.

02:01:45.420 And so they're all done, right?

02:01:47.480 So they're done definitely with the liberal intelligentsia and they see through it.

02:01:52.680 Um, but, uh, I, I don't know if that necessarily means they're going to vote for Donald Trump,

02:01:58.520 but they are, they're certainly done with.

02:02:00.120 When Trump invites Sean O'Brien, head of the Teamsters to the Republican convention and doesn't

02:02:04.580 even make him endorse Trump, Sean O'Brien does not come as a Republican or a Trump voter.

02:02:10.320 And he says that from the stage.

02:02:12.720 I'm not a Trump voter.

02:02:13.920 I'm not a Republican.

02:02:14.700 I'm not here to endorse Trump, but he invited me and I'm coming.

02:02:17.880 How is that not the most powerful sign ever?

02:02:21.820 Can you imagine letting someone at your convention who won't even endorse you and you let him

02:02:26.720 come anyway?

02:02:27.680 That is a sign that, that this party would ever, it's many flaws, many flaws, but is the

02:02:34.420 open party, is the actual coalition of different people, different interests, but with a common

02:02:40.300 humanity and Americanness, like, doesn't that just tell you everything?

02:02:43.920 It's, it's, I've, I've made a big deal out of it.

02:02:46.300 Oh, did you?

02:02:46.800 Oh, good.

02:02:47.040 Yeah.

02:02:47.400 And it was kind of ignored, I thought.

02:02:49.080 Yeah, certainly.

02:02:50.080 Of course, that's not good for the establishment.

02:02:51.900 Yeah.

02:02:52.380 And, um, you know, you saw that the port workers, right?

02:02:56.500 They were not striking.

02:02:57.400 They shut that strike down immediately because they had to settle it because that's not good.

02:03:00.940 And they don't want, they don't want other, they don't want unions to catch on.

02:03:04.040 Right.

02:03:04.340 So as soon as the workers start to get power, they got to stop it.

02:03:08.120 Right.

02:03:08.340 And that's why they have an open border.

02:03:10.420 There's no doubt about it.

02:03:11.900 There's a little bit of a tightening of the labor market.

02:03:15.120 The workers are starting to get a little bit of power.

02:03:17.380 They completely flooded.

02:03:19.080 And the, but the liberals who I see who aren't voting for Kamala Harris, so they're going

02:03:23.620 to vote for Trump or they're going to vote for Jill Stein.

02:03:25.880 Yeah.

02:03:26.000 Right.

02:03:26.700 That's better way to put it.

02:03:27.560 Aren't voting for Kamala Harris.

02:03:28.520 They're not right.

02:03:28.960 So they're not voting there.

02:03:30.000 They want to punish the Democrats.

02:03:33.180 They think they need to be punished.

02:03:34.860 And I agree.

02:03:35.920 I think they do need to be punished.

02:03:37.620 They will not come to get your vote.

02:03:39.160 They have, they don't care.

02:03:40.340 You know, you, you, I'm sure you saw Chuck Schumer in 2016 when they said, Hey, what about

02:03:46.340 you're losing blue collar workers, right?

02:03:48.160 Hillary Clinton, you're losing.

02:03:49.220 He said, it doesn't matter for every blue collar worker we lose.

02:03:52.680 We're going to pick up two white collar suburban voters and you can repeat that in Ohio and

02:03:57.000 Wisconsin and Michigan.

02:03:58.620 Well, I guess they couldn't do that.

02:04:00.320 That was a lot, but that's just show.

02:04:01.700 So they, he's, that was the, at the time, the leader of the democratic party out there

02:04:05.700 telling people, we are not trying to appeal to workers.

02:04:08.600 We're literally trying to appeal to white collar Republicans.

02:04:12.420 That's what the democratic party is now there.

02:04:14.720 They will bend over backwards to get white.

02:04:16.980 That's why Liz Cheney is touring with Kamala Harris.

02:04:19.840 Has there ever been anyone that as disgusting as Liz Cheney, like in world history?

02:04:23.940 I can't think of anyone.

02:04:25.480 I can't, but that's what that's, what does that tell you?

02:04:28.260 They're not going after workers.

02:04:29.760 They're not going after their natural constituency Democrats.

02:04:32.820 They're going after white collar suburban Republicans.

02:04:36.060 That's what they're trying to do.

02:04:37.120 And they'll bend over backwards for them.

02:04:38.960 They won't do anything to get the Muslim vote, which you would think would be a natural constituency.

02:04:43.860 They won't do a damn thing for them.

02:04:46.160 And that's why they all just came out in Michigan and endorsed Donald Trump.

02:04:50.660 At least Donald Trump, they won't do anything.

02:04:53.640 So I'm always, you got to make them come get your vote and you've got to punish them for

02:04:59.220 turning their back on workers, for funding a genocide and for forcing medical experiments

02:05:05.020 on people and for, and for censoring and shutting down and shaming people for questioning.

02:05:10.420 You got to punish them.

02:05:11.660 And I'm all for that.

02:05:13.220 And so a lot of people are punishing them by voting for Jill Stein.

02:05:15.760 Some of them are voting for Donald Trump to punish them.

02:05:18.160 I say, whatever you can do to punish the Democratic Party, we got to break them.

02:05:23.100 The great Jimmy Dore.

02:05:23.880 Thank you.

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Jimmy Dore： Trump’s MSG Rally, WaPo Refusing to Endorse Kamala, & Why Trump Winning Is Essential

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