John Rich on Diddy, Demons, the Antichrist, How to Hear God, and His War on Child Predators
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Summary
Big and Rich is evolving as a man and an artist . He spent three decades of his adult life in self-service competing in the music industry to be successful . He says he's now finding people, bartenders who I sing to, and I talk to this girl and go, you're one of the best singers I've ever heard .
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you grew up and you've said in our last interview
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the difference between success and significance.
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Sometimes they intersect where something significant
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in self-service competing in the music industry
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I'd set like, I want to be songwriter of the year,
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That's something I, that's like the coveted award
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because there's thousands of songwriters in Nashville.
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And I was songwriter of the year for three years in a row.
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Well, all told, you know, we sell close to 15 million records.
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Wanted to write hit songs for other people too.
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Because, you know, it was my, that's my American dream.
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with some guys I literally barely knew from Texas
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And so that band became a band called Lone Star,
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That's what it's like to write a number one song
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And here's a whole nother rack of hit songs coming.
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you're one of the best singers I've ever heard.
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and Gretchen Wilson sold about 13 million records.
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Meaning, what did it do other than make me feel great
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and accomplish things that were on my personal list?
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whoever that just gets steamrolled every single day,
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And I thought, I'm wasting my heartbeats right now
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I mean, Psalms, the entire book of Psalms is, means songs, basically, that David wrote.
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And David was, King David was a musician and a songwriter.
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And so he, there was melodies to all those songs.
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But he probably put it to music because he knew what I know, which is, you can give a speech
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or you can make a statement to somebody and you can say the exact same thing with a melody
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wrapped around it and have two completely different outcomes.
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One thing music does is once it goes into you, it stays there.
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But like an Eddie Rabbit tune from 1978 never goes away.
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The, the, the earworm factor, you know, it goes deep down into your subconscious.
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I have thousands of them in my head, but it goes deep down in there.
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And I just decided that I was, I was disappointing the man, disappointing the Lord, that he gave me
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this ability and then gave me a massive platform of people.
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I mean, tens of millions of people know my music.
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So what am I going to, what am I going to feed them next?
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What am, how am I going to, what am I going to give them?
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It might, it might give me another plaque on the wall.
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I walk past those plaques and go, eh, like today I do, or I'll see pictures of me back
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It seems so insignificant to me now, like shallow, insignificant.
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How do I be significant with my music and with my talent?
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You were the first guy to put a spotlight on that song.
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It resulted in millions and tens of millions, actually, of views and consumption on that song.
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And when I go to a big and rich concert now, they don't generally walk up and say, man,
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I'm a big fan of your music, if they have enough guts to walk up to me and say something,
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which I'm always glad when they do, they say, that song, Revelation, he said, pulled the
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Bible off the shelf for the first time in 20 years after I heard that song, made the hair
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I had three sorority girls down in Fort Worth, Texas.
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And like 19, 20-year-old girls come walking up to me.
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And I'm like, first of all, I'm glad to still have people 19 and 20 that like my music.
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But they came up and they said, Mr. Rich, we heard your song, Revelation.
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And our sorority started a Bible study on 2 Thessalonians, Matthew 24, Revelation, and Daniel.
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All the things that you mentioned in your Tucker interview, and we've done a month-long deep
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And they said, everything you said in that interview is correct.
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So it makes me think, I wonder how many times that has happened and I'll never know about
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And because I'm not a part of the industry, nobody's going to call me up and say, congratulations,
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What do you mean you're not part of the industry?
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I mean, I don't have a contract with anybody in the industry.
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No, they look at it and go, at this point, they just go, keep swinging the bat.
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I mean, because it turns up opportunities that I never thought possible.
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Like, I'll get a call and they'll say, hey, we want you to come speak for an hour.
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And we want you to play Revelation and Earth to God.
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Those are the two songs we want to hear you play.
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And I'll walk into these massive places and be able to say things to these crowds that
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And then there's the music factor also that comes in, which is what I love to do.
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And that did not exist before I started focusing more on being significant instead of successful.
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Did you play gospel in public before this turned?
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My dad's a preacher, sang and played in church.
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But no, I mean, gospel music's never been a part of my set because when Big and Rich hit
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the stage, it's coming to your city and say, well, let's ride a cowboy.
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But on my own, outside of Big and Rich, I have my own trajectory, my own homework assignment
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And when he lays something on me to say in my music, I'm going to say it.
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I'm going to write it at the top of my ability.
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I'm going to sing it at the top of my ability, produce a video as well as I can possibly do.
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And if it's significant, it will grow its legs and it will run faster than anything I could
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Yeah, I mean, that was not the kind of song your manager would tell you to write.
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We're told in the Bible to pray without ceasing.
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It doesn't mean continually be down on your knees praying, but it means that your headspace,
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and we're humans, so we're not very good at this, but you're supposed to attempt to
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stay in a headspace where it's an open channel.
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And if you just put it on channel 19 and turn the volume all the way up and just start driving,
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and you're not talking to anybody, you're just driving.
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And every now and then, you'll hear a trucker or a conversation start happening, coming through
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I view praying without ceasing like your mind is like a CB radio that you just turn it all
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That way, if he wants to tell you something, the channel is open and the volume's all the
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Like he'll tell you something, make you feel something, put a thought in your head, and
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Because that's tough to do in life because we're running a million miles an hour and
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everybody's coming at us from every direction all the time.
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And that's not going to change because that's the way things are.
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But if you can manage to discipline yourself to keep that channel open, you will hear things.
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He'll put it in your mind to call a particular person.
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Or you'll meet somebody that you would not have met had you not gone to that place that
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And you wind up meeting somebody that can really, really change your life in a dramatic
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And you can't believe you didn't know him your whole life.
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So leaving that channel open, praying without ceasing is a huge thing.
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So most Christians think that because they are a Christian, that all of God's guarantees
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and blessings and promises are delivered to them by default.
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Now, it is their inheritance by default because they are a child of God.
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They have claim to the inheritance of what he's promised us.
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However, there's only one way you actually get what it is you want.
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Number one, you have to belong to him for real.
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You can't say, well, I go to church every Sunday.
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It means you have to be, you have to look at yourself as a piece of property.
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It tells us in the New Testament, and Paul wrote, which I know you love Paul.
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We're supposed to be bond servants to Christ, bond slaves, like a mule or a cow or a tractor
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But we turn ourselves over to him, and he makes you valuable.
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And now he can do things with you because your entire ego and everything has been sacrificed,
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put to the side, and he can do something with you at that point.
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And number two, you have to pray for what you want specifically for that.
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You don't know if that's a good guy or a bad guy.
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God is not just going to look down and go, John needs discernment right now.
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I have to say, you promised me that you will give me discernment.
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Now he's got to give me peace if it serves his will.
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Well, if he doesn't give me peace, which has happened, I go, why are you not giving me that?
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He wants you to be in that mode because he's got something that's going to require that element of you to accomplish whatever it is he's trying to get done.
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Christians, in large part, remain on defense, defense, defense, defense all the time.
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And I guess they forget about the story of Jesus walking into the temple.
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It was completely overrun by hypocrites and people doing business and changing money.
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And I mean, just turn it into a bank, basically.
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And if Jesus was a modern day cultural Christian, you know what he would have done?
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That's what he would have done, but that's not what he did.
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It says he took, he fashioned a whip with rope.
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He braided a whip together, called them sons of vipers, which I would guess in Hebrew was
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That's pretty serious offense, don't you think?
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Probably because Christians in America, especially, have not experienced actual persecution ever.
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Not like what they go through in North Korea, Syria, China, Uganda, all these other places
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where they literally get cut into bits in the streets and they kill their families and burn
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their houses down and we all know what happens.
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Well, we haven't gone through anything like that in America.
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And I think Christians have been, I think the Joel Osteens of the world have created in
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their ministries this lukewarm, pablum baby food that they serve up to their congregations
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Because they don't understand the Bible well enough and have, and have digested it and
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given themselves over to it because their preacher never talks about it.
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Because it's uncomfortable to hear those things.
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Christians don't want to hear that they will be persecuted at some point if they do it correctly.
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Jesus said, basically, they, if they hate you, just remember they hated me first.
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That doesn't keep the donations and the estate plans that go to these churches.
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They want the easy message because it allows them in their mind a way to not have to engage
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And so what you have is a whole rack of weak Christians that are constantly being attacked
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They dedicate their lives to him and they do what he says.
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Does it seem like sane people would do a lot of the stuff that we see going on these days?
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So they are being controlled and carrying out the will of their father, the father of lies.
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And we're supposed to carry out the will of our father who created their father.
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So the Christians are standing on the side of an insurmountable, undefeatable God, the Lord,
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Yet, we stand out here and run and hide and go, please don't come to my house.
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Please don't attack me, Mr. Bad Guy, Mr. Wicked Man, Mr. You Belong to the Devil.
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And because of that attitude, our country is completely compromised at this point because of weak Christians.
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What are the signs that someone is dedicated to dark forces?
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That their every thought and action is completely counter to what God created them to be.
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So they're at war with God's creation, with nature.
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I mean, in the New Testament, it says that children have angels that report back to God on behalf of the kids.
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And probably the most hardcore thing Jesus ever said was,
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you'd be better off to have a millstone tied around your neck and cast into the sea
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than to ever cause one of these little ones to stumble.
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Not to rape them, not to murder them, not to traffic them, not to slap them around, to cause them to stumble.
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To mess with their innocence in any way, shape, or form.
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You'd be better off dead than for that to happen.
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The guy who we follow, the guy who we're supposed to emulate and try to live up to his example.
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A lot of Christians are also under this just total fabrication.
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It does not say that anywhere in the Bible that God loves everybody.
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Matter of fact, when you go to Proverbs 6, it says,
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Those whose feet are swift to shed innocent blood.
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Well, but the Bible says we're supposed to pray for our enemies.
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It says pray for your enemies, not pray for God's enemies.
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Maybe there's a few that preachers actually talk like this.
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But Americans want a Jesus made in their image,
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Because who he actually was and is and what he told us to do
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are very difficult things that put you in compromised positions
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every single day if you do what he actually told you to do.
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Because it's just counter to what the world demands.
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People whose feet are swift to shed innocent blood
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That's how we get the most tears out of his face.
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He said we'd be better off dead than to do that.
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is that it's like some kind of clinical disorder.
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The average person has no desire to hurt a child,
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and that the way that they can cause him the most pain
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to get their head wrapped around it to a large degree.
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And I believe that stems from the churches in general
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And so if you're a Christian watching this interview
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it really is important to keep Christ in Christmas.