The Tucker Carlson Show - Jordan Peterson & Conrad Black

00:00:00.000 Believe it or not, I am the moderator.

00:00:16.480 I'd like to start by just replying to some of the things Tucker said.

00:00:21.020 And generally, our challenge here tonight is that Tucker and Jordan and I agree on almost everything.

00:00:28.580 So we're trying to get a bit of controversy going.

00:00:31.540 But I would say this, Tucker, as far as I can see, the governing party in your country now has, as its sole claim to resumption of its mandate, the equation Trump equals Hitler, which is, of course, so fatuous and outrageous that no person with an IQ in at least double figures could believe it.

00:00:53.100 And it will get the reception it deserves on Election Day, I think, despite massive efforts at stuffing the ballot boxes and bringing, you know, non-existent people onto the voting list.

00:01:05.320 But because of that, I think we should be doubly careful about suggesting that Chrystia Freeland, whom I also know, I've known her for some years, is worse than the Nazis.

00:01:18.860 I mean, she isn't.

00:01:19.980 She's actually quite a nice lady, but she's politically misguided, has always been misguided. 1.00

00:01:25.380 The FT, which you support, other than for hiring her, is itself not an acceptable publication anymore.

00:01:33.680 It's a ludicrous, globalist, socialistic, interventionist, regimentationist paper.

00:01:41.660 Not really the paper it was under Nigel Lawson and others of a legitimate newspaper for commerce, free commerce everywhere in the world. 0.86

00:01:52.600 And so what we have is bad enough without suggesting it's Nazism or worse.

00:01:59.280 It isn't.

00:01:59.740 It's not that bad, but it's bad.

00:02:01.300 If I could just, and this is a problem that I have had my whole life, I don't fully explain what I think, and you raise a really good point.

00:02:08.300 I made a serious charge against her, and let me just be a lot more precise about why I believe what I said.

00:02:14.300 I saw the video the other day, and I've never taken her seriously, as I said.

00:02:18.420 But I didn't think that she was as malicious and cold as I now believe she is until I saw the video of David Menzies from Rebel News being arrested after trying to ask her a question.

00:02:31.140 And I thought to myself, as someone who is often approached by people as I walk into buildings with questions, how would I feel if someone approached me and asked a question, even a question I don't like, and my security team threw him against a wall and put him in handcuffs?

00:02:47.120 I would say, you stop that immediately.

00:02:48.480 I could not, as a matter of conscience, allow a man to be arrested in my presence for asking a question.

00:02:55.400 And I think that anyone who thinks that's okay is a truly dangerous person who should not have power.

00:03:02.600 That's how I feel.

00:03:03.200 Thank you.

00:03:33.200 Precisely the kind of initiative you attributed to the people in goose-stepping and tight uniforms.

00:03:39.280 I mean, many people, especially in the United States, still think of the RCMP as people in red tunics with a musical ride and, you know, Rosemary with Nelson Eddy and so on singing in the Rockies here.

00:03:52.360 But we saw in the McDonald Commission inquiry after the imposition of the War Measures Act by the elder Trudeau in 1970, what an absolutely incompetent bunch of palookas the RCMP are. 0.99

00:04:07.420 So some of the blame belongs on them, their initiative.

00:04:11.080 I agree, but it's her security detail.

00:04:13.520 And as someone, I know you spent a lot of your life with security around you, whatever, you just can't allow that.

00:04:17.620 You just cannot allow people to behave that way because it's such a violation of human rights.

00:04:22.300 And that's happening in this country and no one's saying anything about it.

00:04:25.040 I want to turn to Jordan.

00:04:28.680 We've had discussions in Calgary earlier today and last night, and I emerged as the optimist.

00:04:35.560 And I'm not an absolute optimist, but in fact, I think the public is turning in this country and in the United States.

00:04:42.540 I'm afraid as a member of the British Parliament, I can't hold out any hope for England for the next five years, but it'll come to its senses eventually.

00:04:51.900 But I think it's turning, and we see it tonight.

00:04:55.180 We see it, believe it or not, it is even the case in Toronto where you Albertans have more friends and admirers than you think, including Jordan and me.

00:05:03.960 A city I may say that I understand Albertans don't like Toronto and I don't blame them.

00:05:08.300 But when Tucker compares Toronto to Gary, Indiana, which is a bombed out rubble heap of abandoned steel factories and rioters and drug dealers, he stirs up something I was not aware that I possessed.

00:05:23.960 And that was a bit of municipal chauvinism.

00:05:26.280 I would like to ask Jordan, on this business of, I mean, we agree, I think everyone in this great stadium agrees with Tucker's denunciation of our health system.

00:05:44.480 It's a shambles and a disgrace, and it is so bad that, as he said, the health system that's supposed to promote life is now selling the virtues of suicide, and not only to sick people, to poor people as well, as if you have no chance of recovering and becoming prosperous.

00:06:01.000 But, Jordan, where do you stand on this optimism, pessimism scale that Tucker and I have built up a little here?

00:06:08.140 I think we have every reason to assume that, and I guess this is why I'm going around the world talking to people, I guess, is that I think that if we put our hearts and our souls into it,

00:06:38.060 that we could make this world into a place that's so good, we could hardly imagine it, and I think with the technology,

00:06:45.340 I think with the technology that's in front of us, which is transforming at a rate that's beyond comprehensible, literally,

00:06:54.920 that we could do much better in the next 50 years than we did in the last 200, and that's really saying something.

00:07:02.240 But, I also think that if we let the worst parts of ourselves gain the upper hand, given our enhanced technological power,

00:07:15.480 we could produce a hell that would make Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany look like practice. 0.54

00:07:23.040 And so, there's a great hope in that, but a great warning.

00:07:29.120 And one of the things you all want to consider, too, is that because you're so much more powerful than people were in the past,

00:07:37.420 with the technology that you have at your disposal, with the influence that you can have in the world,

00:07:42.080 that all your particular and individual moral flaws are going to find their amplification in the world

00:07:49.680 in a way that wasn't really evidently true in the past.

00:07:54.760 And so, I think that if we got our act together, things could be unbelievably positive. 0.99

00:08:01.780 But, if we remain narcissistic, infantile, and foolish, like certain of our leaders, 0.99

00:08:12.380 then things could go extraordinarily badly. 0.99

00:08:16.520 And I think we'll see how that plays out in the course of the lifetimes of most of the people in this room.

00:08:22.040 I have the honor of sharing a podcast with the eminent historian Victor Hanson

00:08:33.740 and the former U.S. drug czar and Education Secretary Bill Bennett.

00:08:40.280 And Victor presents, I think very accurately, the correlation of forces in our English-speaking countries' societies

00:08:49.720 that Tucker referred to, the enemy of practically all of us here,

00:08:55.500 unless they're spies from the CBC or elsewhere,

00:08:58.540 they possess the academy, they possess the media,

00:09:04.000 they possess Wall Street and the equivalent, to an extent, in Canada.

00:09:09.720 Silicon Valley, which I agree with you, is an abominable place.

00:09:13.840 You should direct your strictures against them instead of Toronto.

00:09:17.100 And they have big entertainment and big sport.

00:09:23.560 I mean, people are tremendously talented at entertaining in athletics, 1.00

00:09:28.120 but are utter morons politically, malignant morons, many of them. 1.00

00:09:32.540 They have all of that, but we have the people. 1.00

00:09:35.500 And we are going to show that.

00:09:37.240 And despite their attempt to steal elections in your country,

00:09:40.140 we don't much stoop to that here,

00:09:41.820 although we may learn, we imitate everything else you do,

00:09:46.000 despite that, we're going to win.

00:09:48.380 And I feel, I'm very confident about that.

00:09:51.000 And on what Jordan said,

00:09:53.240 even the period since World War II,

00:09:56.720 when the great powers haven't been at war with each other,

00:09:59.820 has shown an astounding increase in prosperity in the world.

00:10:04.820 The total percentage in the whole world, huge populations it now has,

00:10:09.540 that's in designated poverty, severe poverty, is down to under 10%.

00:10:14.420 And we are making progress.

00:10:17.020 It's just frustrating that these leading countries, such as ours,

00:10:21.900 are at the moment so incompetently governed.

00:10:25.500 And we are ultimately going to lose our position of moral and practical leadership

00:10:29.660 if we underperform, as this country now is underperforming.

00:10:34.740 So, but, you know, I wish I could say,

00:10:38.520 I could suggest any better way of getting out of this

00:10:42.940 and reversing the trend than the one I have.

00:10:44.680 I think if we all keep our heads about us

00:10:47.040 and go to the polls and change governments,

00:10:50.180 I think we'll get what we want.

00:10:51.800 The people do get the government we deserve,

00:10:53.900 and if we deserve a good government, we'll get a good government.

00:10:57.040 And you have one here in Alberta.

00:10:58.780 May I just clarify one thing?

00:11:05.900 I'm sorry to beat up on Toronto,

00:11:08.440 and I'm certainly sorry to compare it to Gary, Indiana.

00:11:12.820 Toronto is not the worst place in the world,

00:11:14.700 and I'll concede that Gary ended up maybe a little worse.

00:11:18.660 My problem with Toronto is not with the city itself,

00:11:22.420 which is, again, fine, as cities go.

00:11:26.060 It's the metaphor of Toronto.

00:11:28.780 And the vision of the future that Toronto represents.

00:11:31.680 And so the question that no one ever asks about most places is,

00:11:33.860 what do they do here?

00:11:36.000 What's the point of the city?

00:11:37.700 What's the business here?

00:11:38.680 What do they add to the country?

00:11:40.580 And Toronto represents a vision that I reject,

00:11:43.480 which is an economy based on banking and real estate.

00:11:47.160 I don't think it's a real economy.

00:11:48.140 I think banking has its place, real estate has its place.

00:11:51.320 I don't think you can build a country on that,

00:11:53.160 and I don't think you should.

00:11:55.200 This province represents the alternative vision, which I support,

00:11:58.620 which is a place that actually adds to the sum total of good in a country

00:12:02.020 that produces energy and food.

00:12:04.860 And energy and food are non-negotiables.

00:12:09.240 You have to have them.

00:12:10.880 You do not have to have banking,

00:12:12.400 and you do not have to have commercial real estate.

00:12:15.100 You just don't.

00:12:16.160 There are places without them.

00:12:17.140 In fact, most of history has been sort of fine without them.

00:12:20.580 But no place can exist without energy or food.

00:12:23.360 And so when I see the relative status allocated to Alberta versus Toronto,

00:12:28.840 that part of Ontario,

00:12:30.200 I'm like, this is out of whack.

00:12:31.840 There is no sane world in which a city that produces nothing

00:12:35.700 is more impressive than a province that produces everything that the country needs.

00:12:39.520 So that's all I'm saying.

00:12:41.440 Jordan, you're a renowned psychologist,

00:12:54.640 and your renown has been most recently emphasized

00:13:02.380 by the attempt of your peers to discipline you

00:13:05.660 and send you for lessons in public relations.

00:13:11.440 The fact that they would do this does indicate

00:13:17.280 how extraordinarily accomplished you are

00:13:19.920 and how widely admired you are.

00:13:28.320 And notwithstanding, my city of residence,

00:13:32.640 I am very proud that you replaced our former mayor, Rob Ford,

00:13:39.020 as the world's most famous Canadian.

00:13:41.440 But I want to ask you, as a psychologist,

00:13:47.000 do you think that the psychology of the United States and Canada right now,

00:13:53.760 mass psychology, is such that we are in upward mode,

00:13:58.400 we're going to cast off the incompetence that has ruled us

00:14:02.780 and the perfidy and venality that has ruled us

00:14:08.100 and do a better job of self-government?

00:14:12.340 I mean, is the psychology right for an upward movement,

00:14:16.460 or do you feel we're sinking?

00:14:18.060 No, I think, again, I would say I'm optimistic on that front, too,

00:14:23.500 because I think the best thinkers that I've encountered,

00:14:27.580 and I'm privileged because,

00:14:32.100 well, apart from the fact that I'm male and white, obviously, but...

00:14:35.380 Sorry about that.

00:14:47.260 But I've been privileged to meet some of the world's brightest people

00:14:54.020 and to talk to them in depth, you know,

00:14:57.660 and I see a realization dawning even in unlikely places

00:15:03.700 that the core values of our civilization,

00:15:09.180 and those are really Judeo-Christian values,

00:15:12.980 are valid, true, and irreplaceable.

00:15:20.040 And let me explain what I've seen.

00:15:26.180 So, in recent months,

00:15:28.600 I've watched a number of surprising conversions or semi-conversions.

00:15:34.120 And so, Ayaan Hirsi Ali,

00:15:37.500 some of you may know of Ayaan Hirsi Ali,

00:15:39.900 and if you don't, you should,

00:15:41.580 because she's one of the world's bravest people.

00:15:45.380 And she was a real admirer of the New Atheists

00:15:49.360 for a long time,

00:15:50.680 and she had her reasons

00:15:52.080 because she suffered greatly

00:15:54.200 at the hand of psychopathic fundamentalists.

00:15:57.340 And she's concluded 0.86

00:15:58.680 that the Christianity that underlies our society

00:16:03.760 is irreplaceable

00:16:07.120 and has actually converted.

00:16:09.540 That, despite being an admirer for a very long time

00:16:12.540 of the New Atheists,

00:16:14.140 Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hickens and Sam Harris,

00:16:17.040 who are very intelligent people, by the way,

00:16:18.840 but wrong in a deeply interesting way.

00:16:23.880 Her husband, Neil Ferguson,

00:16:25.300 who was also an atheist,

00:16:26.560 has also converted.

00:16:28.300 My friend, Douglas Murray,

00:16:29.740 who was also a follower of the New Atheists,

00:16:31.900 now realizes and understands,

00:16:35.060 and I would say intellectually,

00:16:36.360 that a humanism unmoored

00:16:40.780 from a deep metaphysical substrate

00:16:42.960 will fall prey to the kind of ideological lunacy

00:16:47.480 that now characterizes our times

00:16:49.340 and that threatened the entire planet

00:16:50.840 a number of times in the 20th century.

00:16:53.340 I can see this happening all over.

00:16:55.920 And there are deep reasons for that,

00:16:58.060 and they're going to become more evident

00:16:59.980 in very short order.

00:17:02.680 And so I think we're on the verge

00:17:07.400 of a conscious metaphysical revolution

00:17:11.240 that will reveal to us once again

00:17:14.080 the profundity, depth, necessity,

00:17:17.640 and value of the core propositions

00:17:20.580 that made the West free, prosperous, and great.

00:17:25.120 And so...

00:17:26.340 May I just add one thing to that?

00:17:31.320 I couldn't agree with that more.

00:17:33.200 I can't express it as eloquently as you just did,

00:17:36.120 and I want to try.

00:17:37.540 But I'll say two things.

00:17:38.520 One, I noticed that,

00:17:40.800 and I've never been an atheist,

00:17:42.360 but I've never been, you know,

00:17:44.320 that far from atheism.

00:17:45.440 I always lived in sort of ritual-educated world

00:17:48.540 among people who mock the religious

00:17:50.780 because they're primitive.

00:17:51.880 And in the last two or three years,

00:17:55.400 I have heard more people talk

00:17:57.540 about the possibility

00:17:59.620 that all that we can experience

00:18:02.640 with our senses is not all that there is.

00:18:05.520 And of course, that's true.

00:18:06.620 It's obviously true,

00:18:07.460 and there's no society in human history

00:18:09.040 that's believed otherwise.

00:18:11.780 Only the West,

00:18:13.100 since we dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima,

00:18:16.620 only the West since 1945

00:18:18.700 has proceeded as a society

00:18:21.480 with the assumption that there's no God.

00:18:25.100 That's never happened before.

00:18:26.200 And of course, it doesn't work at all.

00:18:28.460 That's changing really fast, and I feel it.

00:18:30.900 I also see, and it's very obvious

00:18:33.280 if you just look for it,

00:18:34.940 that the main thing

00:18:36.400 that people who run this country

00:18:37.800 and my country

00:18:38.620 and a lot of Western countries

00:18:40.100 hate is Christianity. 0.99

00:18:41.360 They hate it more than anything. 0.88

00:18:43.000 And you see it in their behavior.

00:18:45.340 You see it in the arrests

00:18:46.620 of Christian pastors.

00:18:48.580 And if there's one group in the world,

00:18:49.620 whether you're a Christian or not,

00:18:50.440 you certainly don't need to be a Christian 1.00

00:18:51.520 to acknowledge what's obviously true.

00:18:53.840 These are the least threatening,

00:18:56.040 least bad people in your society.

00:18:58.320 These are the people

00:18:58.840 who mean you the least harm.

00:19:00.060 These are the people

00:19:00.540 who commanded to pray for their enemies.

00:19:03.420 These are people who commanded

00:19:04.300 to give up their life

00:19:05.400 for people they don't know

00:19:06.560 and for others.

00:19:08.200 And so again,

00:19:08.800 you don't have to be an adherent

00:19:10.040 of that religion

00:19:10.760 to see those people

00:19:12.040 as a group you might want more of.

00:19:13.620 Because what's the downside

00:19:14.700 to having people who love you

00:19:17.080 despite the fact you hate them?

00:19:18.160 Like, that seems like

00:19:18.880 you'd want more of those.

00:19:21.800 And yet those people

00:19:23.340 are the first to get arrested.

00:19:25.880 And their churches are burned,

00:19:27.700 90 in this country,

00:19:29.240 with the full tacit support

00:19:31.320 of your government.

00:19:33.520 Like, what is that?

00:19:35.120 Why are they going after them?

00:19:36.820 Of all the problems

00:19:37.560 your country has,

00:19:38.240 my country has,

00:19:39.100 why are the Christians 1.00

00:19:39.980 being persecuted?

00:19:41.360 And they are being persecuted.

00:19:44.300 Well, it tells you

00:19:45.240 there's something else

00:19:45.780 going on here.

00:19:46.320 There may be their goals.

00:19:48.280 Maybe, you know,

00:19:49.500 maybe this is part

00:19:51.280 of something bigger.

00:19:52.160 I mean, just meditate

00:19:52.800 on that for the weekend

00:19:53.580 and see the conclusion

00:19:54.520 you come to.

00:19:55.040 That's all I would say.

00:20:03.600 On this, Tucker,

00:20:05.100 I have to agree

00:20:06.160 with you completely.

00:20:07.160 And I'm afraid

00:20:07.800 that Canada

00:20:08.680 is in the forefront

00:20:10.400 of advanced Western countries

00:20:13.020 with a Judeo-Christian tradition

00:20:15.440 and a tradition

00:20:16.360 of tolerance also.

00:20:19.020 On the forefront,

00:20:21.100 the vanguard

00:20:21.800 of effectively

00:20:22.960 shedding

00:20:25.260 even what is now

00:20:28.040 a officious

00:20:30.660 and paper-thin

00:20:32.340 adherence

00:20:33.620 to the idea

00:20:34.540 of a divine intelligence

00:20:37.220 existing.

00:20:38.080 We're getting

00:20:38.800 perilously close

00:20:40.260 all the time.

00:20:41.380 And you see it

00:20:42.560 in judgments

00:20:43.620 of the Supreme Court

00:20:44.940 that are terribly

00:20:47.580 poorly reasoned

00:20:49.220 and agitate

00:20:51.840 against any

00:20:53.120 religious notions

00:20:54.740 that should cause

00:20:56.200 them to temper

00:20:56.900 their idea

00:20:57.620 of interpretation

00:20:58.480 of the law.

00:20:59.080 And I would just say

00:21:01.040 that we all of us

00:21:02.360 know enough

00:21:03.140 that if you,

00:21:04.780 I'm not talking about

00:21:05.780 what people's

00:21:07.660 religious practices

00:21:08.580 or anything like that,

00:21:09.400 that's none of my business.

00:21:11.140 But if you banish

00:21:12.720 absolutely the idea

00:21:14.360 in a militant

00:21:17.160 atheistic manner

00:21:18.160 that it is impossible

00:21:19.620 that there are

00:21:20.020 any spiritual forces

00:21:21.280 or anything whatsoever

00:21:22.560 beyond what we

00:21:24.400 absolutely know,

00:21:26.160 you are creating

00:21:27.360 a vacuum

00:21:27.980 in the human mind

00:21:29.980 and in society

00:21:31.540 that ultimately

00:21:32.720 will be filled

00:21:33.720 by horrible 1.00

00:21:35.180 pagan monsters 1.00

00:21:36.400 like Hitler and Stalin. 0.97

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00:23:26.500 there's just no history.

00:23:28.220 You know,

00:23:28.520 the iPhone makes history irrelevant

00:23:29.980 and it's all about right now.

00:23:31.860 But it's worth like

00:23:32.920 learning some things

00:23:33.600 about history

00:23:34.200 and here's my recommendation.

00:23:36.040 Spend, you know,

00:23:36.700 like an afternoon

00:23:37.220 reading about

00:23:37.900 the French Revolution,

00:23:39.820 the Bolshevik Revolution

00:23:40.820 of 1917,

00:23:42.460 the Spanish Civil War

00:23:44.040 and what do they all

00:23:45.880 have in common?

00:23:46.420 at their heart

00:23:48.220 was a desire

00:23:50.000 not to replace

00:23:51.160 Christianity

00:23:51.980 with reason

00:23:53.100 as the Jacobins claimed

00:23:55.380 but to crush

00:23:56.980 and destroy 0.82

00:23:57.880 and to humiliate 1.00

00:23:59.100 Christians 0.98

00:23:59.480 in a way

00:23:59.860 that's very reminiscent

00:24:00.620 of what the Romans

00:24:01.980 did in the first

00:24:02.580 and second centuries.

00:24:04.020 It's not just like

00:24:04.940 oh, that's silly 0.99

00:24:06.020 and superstitious 0.98

00:24:06.800 we're going to move on

00:24:07.480 to something better.

00:24:09.040 It's no, 0.99

00:24:09.620 we're going to crush you 0.99

00:24:10.580 and we're going to 1.00

00:24:11.800 ritually humiliate you 0.53

00:24:13.180 and that is very much 0.97

00:24:13.840 what the trans thing

00:24:14.520 is about.

00:24:15.040 No one is helped

00:24:15.720 by transgenderism.

00:24:17.300 You've never met

00:24:17.840 anyone who is happier

00:24:20.400 because he's self-castrated.

00:24:22.600 I personally feel

00:24:23.560 very sorry for trans people. 0.85

00:24:24.960 I'm not angry

00:24:25.440 at them at all.

00:24:26.080 I think they are victims

00:24:27.040 of bigger forces

00:24:29.700 but to officially

00:24:31.620 promote that

00:24:32.620 is a humiliation ritual 0.99

00:24:35.100 designed to put Christians 1.00

00:24:36.600 in an untenable position

00:24:38.060 where they have to

00:24:39.240 either swear allegiance

00:24:40.200 to the new state religion

00:24:41.200 which is transgenderism

00:24:42.420 or to their ancestral religion

00:24:44.440 which is Christianity.

00:24:45.720 It is a loyalty test

00:24:47.060 and it's meant

00:24:48.060 to humiliate 0.98

00:24:49.200 and destroy them 0.98

00:24:50.280 and let's just be honest 0.87

00:24:51.760 about what we're seeing.

00:24:52.420 so I've been thinking

00:25:05.460 about this idea

00:25:06.540 of what should be properly

00:25:07.840 put in the highest place

00:25:08.980 for a very long time.

00:25:11.840 You know,

00:25:12.260 I became convinced

00:25:13.300 40 years ago

00:25:14.480 I suppose

00:25:15.820 of the existence of evil

00:25:18.420 in some transcendent sense.

00:25:20.260 I suppose

00:25:20.760 when I tried to look

00:25:23.140 for something

00:25:23.740 that I had

00:25:25.720 what would you say

00:25:28.060 that I could

00:25:28.600 that I could claim

00:25:30.500 with unshakable faith

00:25:32.120 what I discovered

00:25:33.800 was that

00:25:34.580 there were certain acts

00:25:36.780 that occurred

00:25:37.340 in the 20th century

00:25:38.360 that were so

00:25:39.380 brutal

00:25:40.940 and so malevolent

00:25:42.160 that

00:25:42.460 they absolutely

00:25:44.020 convinced me

00:25:44.960 of the reality of evil.

00:25:46.240 and there's a corollary

00:25:48.500 to that

00:25:49.000 that's

00:25:49.840 that's necessary

00:25:52.000 to understand

00:25:52.740 is that

00:25:53.300 if evil

00:25:54.460 and absolute evil

00:25:55.680 exists

00:25:56.300 first of all

00:25:57.560 if absolute evil

00:25:58.800 doesn't exist

00:26:00.500 then what happened

00:26:01.220 in Auschwitz

00:26:01.780 was just a matter

00:26:02.660 of opinion

00:26:04.000 right?

00:26:05.160 The moral

00:26:06.500 catastrophe

00:26:08.280 of Auschwitz

00:26:09.320 is just an opinion

00:26:10.300 and that in itself

00:26:11.820 is a conclusion

00:26:12.560 that has

00:26:13.200 no small degree

00:26:14.940 of malevolence

00:26:15.860 so we should be clear

00:26:17.960 about that

00:26:18.560 if what happened

00:26:19.820 in Auschwitz

00:26:20.540 if the fact

00:26:22.120 that Auschwitz 0.90

00:26:23.540 camp guards

00:26:24.440 could conduct themselves

00:26:25.980 in the utterly

00:26:26.580 brutal manner

00:26:27.260 that they did

00:26:27.940 and enjoy it

00:26:29.160 if that was evil

00:26:31.740 and that's

00:26:33.420 and that's a fact

00:26:34.860 then

00:26:37.020 hey

00:26:37.960 pipe down

00:26:38.600 this isn't

00:26:40.660 your conference

00:26:41.440 then there's

00:26:50.620 there's an opposite

00:26:51.720 right?

00:26:52.240 If you identify

00:26:52.900 something on one pole

00:26:54.220 you've implicitly

00:26:55.520 identified

00:26:56.160 something on the other pole

00:26:58.020 and so

00:26:58.760 one of the things

00:26:59.520 you might say

00:27:00.060 is that

00:27:00.400 whatever absolute good

00:27:02.360 might be

00:27:02.900 and that would be

00:27:03.860 something akin to

00:27:04.620 God

00:27:05.460 would be that

00:27:07.080 which is as far away

00:27:08.120 from Auschwitz

00:27:08.720 as you can possibly get

00:27:10.800 and to pursue that

00:27:12.460 would be to pursue

00:27:13.440 the direction

00:27:14.580 that leads you

00:27:15.380 as far away

00:27:16.220 let's say

00:27:17.140 from the horrors

00:27:17.920 of Nazi Germany

00:27:18.680 as you could get

00:27:19.860 and I believe

00:27:21.520 that technically

00:27:22.680 there is no difference

00:27:24.080 between that

00:27:24.800 and the pursuit

00:27:25.380 of a religious path

00:27:26.440 and then I would say

00:27:27.980 if it's true

00:27:30.800 that the core

00:27:31.980 of malevolence

00:27:32.700 is something like

00:27:33.520 the sacrifice

00:27:34.340 of others

00:27:34.980 in a painful manner 1.00

00:27:36.040 to your own idiot whims 1.00

00:27:37.640 and desire for power 1.00

00:27:39.080 which isn't a bad

00:27:40.340 encapsulation

00:27:41.120 then the opposite

00:27:42.160 of that would be

00:27:43.640 your voluntary

00:27:45.620 self-sacrifice

00:27:46.840 in the service

00:27:47.600 of what's best

00:27:48.760 and others

00:27:49.740 and that is the ideal

00:27:52.220 that Christianity 0.95

00:27:52.900 puts at the center

00:27:54.020 of the moral universe

00:27:55.020 and so

00:27:56.540 I don't see a way

00:27:57.740 around that

00:27:58.620 and

00:27:59.040 that's not a conclusion

00:28:01.340 that I drew lightly

00:28:02.360 you know

00:28:02.740 for what that's worth

00:28:03.640 I've spent 40 years

00:28:05.200 thinking about

00:28:06.320 very little else

00:28:07.140 than that

00:28:07.760 and I think

00:28:09.480 that we're going

00:28:10.300 to come

00:28:11.560 to understand

00:28:12.520 that consciously

00:28:13.760 widely

00:28:15.020 far more rapidly

00:28:16.900 than anyone suspects

00:28:18.220 for any number

00:28:19.840 of reasons

00:28:20.420 and that

00:28:21.080 that will be

00:28:22.520 well the consequences

00:28:25.600 of that are very

00:28:26.220 difficult to predict

00:28:27.120 but the fact

00:28:27.880 that it's going

00:28:28.420 to occur

00:28:28.900 is definitely

00:28:29.460 one of the things

00:28:30.200 that makes me optimistic

00:28:31.400 you know

00:28:32.060 we've all been faced

00:28:33.020 in the 20th century

00:28:33.980 I would say

00:28:34.580 with the irrefutable

00:28:36.500 evidence of

00:28:37.460 transcendent evil

00:28:38.780 and that means

00:28:39.500 we all now have

00:28:40.460 the opportunity

00:28:41.180 to discover

00:28:41.900 the existence

00:28:43.280 irrefutable existence

00:28:44.860 of transcendent good

00:28:46.020 and to allow that

00:28:46.940 to guide us

00:28:47.580 and if with our

00:28:48.340 technological power

00:28:49.380 we had the capacity

00:28:51.120 to be guided

00:28:52.240 by what is truly

00:28:54.060 and transcendently good

00:28:55.400 then there's nothing

00:28:56.580 we couldn't accomplish

00:28:57.600 in the positive direction

00:28:58.860 Tucker whether

00:29:09.160 everybody in this country

00:29:10.580 is happy with it

00:29:11.480 or not

00:29:11.920 the whole world

00:29:12.780 is extremely

00:29:14.200 heavily influenced

00:29:15.520 by the United States

00:29:16.780 and we

00:29:19.220 whatever any of us

00:29:20.660 think of any

00:29:21.820 American regime 0.79

00:29:23.520 none of us

00:29:25.120 none of us

00:29:25.760 in the West

00:29:26.280 should ever fail

00:29:28.420 to remember

00:29:29.040 and be grateful

00:29:29.860 for the fact

00:29:30.520 that we owe chiefly

00:29:31.520 to the United States

00:29:32.640 the great

00:29:34.300 the greatest

00:29:36.240 strategic

00:29:37.220 bloodless victory

00:29:38.940 in the history

00:29:39.580 of the world

00:29:40.140 our victory

00:29:40.960 of western civilization

00:29:42.980 in the cold war

00:29:44.800 and the tremendous

00:29:45.740 spread of democracy

00:29:47.540 and the free market

00:29:48.520 in the world

00:29:49.060 we owe it chiefly

00:29:49.960 to your country

00:29:50.560 and we must never

00:29:51.940 forget that

00:29:52.600 so with that

00:29:53.700 in mind

00:29:54.220 I'd like you

00:30:00.520 to be as daring

00:30:02.980 as you can

00:30:03.780 and as perceptive

00:30:06.040 as only you can be

00:30:07.100 as someone

00:30:07.900 who knows

00:30:08.440 the United States

00:30:09.620 all of the United States

00:30:10.860 very well

00:30:11.420 what do you predict

00:30:12.740 is going to happen

00:30:13.440 in this political year

00:30:14.460 in that country

00:30:15.040 you know it's

00:30:16.600 I mean

00:30:17.160 thank you

00:30:18.000 I couldn't be more

00:30:19.620 grateful to be an American

00:30:20.880 I've always felt that way

00:30:22.220 as I said

00:30:23.660 my dad's family

00:30:24.680 was from Nova Scotia

00:30:25.540 they left

00:30:26.500 at the time

00:30:27.640 of the American Revolution

00:30:28.540 because they didn't

00:30:29.340 want to be free

00:30:29.980 so they fled

00:30:30.520 to the Maritimes

00:30:31.180 and

00:30:32.240 I'm just kidding

00:30:34.020 but anyway

00:30:34.440 then they came back

00:30:35.340 ultimately

00:30:36.360 many are still there

00:30:38.460 their name is Rayfuse

00:30:41.000 I think they're liberal

00:30:41.760 but

00:30:43.480 but I have always been

00:30:45.580 grateful for my birthright

00:30:46.680 as an American

00:30:47.340 and for

00:30:48.260 the God-given rights

00:30:49.560 that are protected

00:30:50.260 by my government

00:30:51.060 officially in the

00:30:52.020 Bill of Rights

00:30:52.500 which is a beautiful document

00:30:53.720 the greatest document

00:30:54.520 I've ever produced

00:30:55.120 and that no other country has

00:30:57.260 so

00:30:57.860 and I will feel that way 0.91

00:31:00.580 until I die

00:31:01.120 and unlike a lot of people

00:31:02.260 in our leadership class

00:31:03.160 I have no plans

00:31:03.880 to go anywhere else

00:31:04.580 I've got too many children

00:31:05.640 and too many dogs

00:31:06.560 and I'm dying there

00:31:08.020 but I'm definitely

00:31:11.180 very concerned

00:31:12.060 and I can't see

00:31:13.800 the outcome

00:31:14.380 of this year

00:31:15.740 clearly at all

00:31:16.960 I was thinking yesterday

00:31:18.380 it really is like

00:31:19.040 looking through a shower curtain

00:31:20.240 you see

00:31:20.800 these opaque shapes lurking

00:31:23.060 but you can't tell

00:31:23.980 if they're

00:31:24.560 you know

00:31:24.920 friend or foe

00:31:26.460 nude or clothed

00:31:27.720 you know

00:31:28.220 you don't really know

00:31:28.840 what you're looking at

00:31:29.720 but you know

00:31:31.140 that there is a collision

00:31:32.620 coming between

00:31:33.520 titanic forces

00:31:34.440 the population of America

00:31:35.860 versus its leaders

00:31:36.720 and it's coming to a head

00:31:38.260 because of the structure

00:31:39.360 of this election

00:31:40.080 and so you have

00:31:41.380 the Republican candidate

00:31:42.420 he is going to be

00:31:43.620 the candidate

00:31:44.100 whose election

00:31:46.040 is the one thing

00:31:47.640 what I think

00:31:50.820 it's

00:31:51.180 I think it's

00:31:51.920 it's kind of determined

00:31:53.220 and of course

00:31:55.000 it's politics

00:31:55.540 so it's filled

00:31:56.160 with all sorts of

00:31:57.200 I mean

00:31:57.880 the amount of

00:31:58.640 ugliness display

00:31:59.700 beneath the surface

00:32:01.160 in all politics

00:32:02.900 everywhere

00:32:03.340 is really awe-inspiring

00:32:04.760 you know

00:32:05.520 these people 0.98

00:32:05.920 are really dirty 0.97

00:32:06.660 everywhere

00:32:07.200 not just my country

00:32:08.080 you may know about that

00:32:09.700 but

00:32:10.000 the one thing

00:32:13.700 that the people

00:32:14.360 in power

00:32:15.360 and I don't just mean

00:32:16.100 in Washington

00:32:16.720 in our government

00:32:17.500 I mean in our

00:32:18.320 financial centers

00:32:19.120 and entertainment centers

00:32:20.220 our country's kind of cool

00:32:21.340 because they're

00:32:21.780 they're identified by cities

00:32:23.120 so Los Angeles

00:32:23.980 New York

00:32:24.580 Washington

00:32:25.180 make all the decisions

00:32:26.700 of course

00:32:27.360 and

00:32:28.520 the one thing

00:32:30.440 they won't tolerate

00:32:31.120 is the orange man

00:32:32.440 in power

00:32:32.900 and you sort of

00:32:34.940 and that

00:32:35.560 like you wonder

00:32:36.440 well why

00:32:37.060 because Trump

00:32:38.160 is not a radical

00:32:38.880 at all

00:32:39.360 and Trump's vision

00:32:40.800 for America

00:32:41.240 this is an informed

00:32:42.040 assessment of Trump

00:32:43.120 Trump's vision

00:32:44.200 for America

00:32:44.820 is like

00:32:45.620 Studio 54

00:32:46.600 1978

00:32:47.260 like

00:32:49.020 I'm serious

00:32:49.920 Trump really loved

00:32:51.480 the country

00:32:51.880 he grew up in

00:32:52.320 he really loved it

00:32:53.080 and he means it

00:32:53.860 he loved the people

00:32:54.820 who lived there

00:32:55.360 he loved its traditions

00:32:56.380 its weird little customs

00:32:58.080 its idiosyncrasies

00:32:59.980 and that's kind of

00:33:01.080 what he wants

00:33:01.580 he doesn't want

00:33:02.320 a brave new future

00:33:03.200 of new things

00:33:03.960 he wants to return

00:33:05.440 not to

00:33:06.140 antebellum America

00:33:07.300 but to

00:33:08.980 like 1980 America

00:33:10.340 and it's kind of

00:33:12.100 hard to argue

00:33:12.540 why that's bad

00:33:13.240 actually

00:33:13.960 and so

00:33:15.100 that's not a

00:33:15.720 revolutionary agenda

00:33:16.820 nor is it a

00:33:17.880 counter-revolutionary agenda

00:33:19.100 it's a return

00:33:20.900 to normalcy

00:33:21.580 and the phrase

00:33:23.160 make America great again

00:33:24.380 means return it

00:33:25.340 to a period

00:33:25.860 not so long ago

00:33:26.720 when everyone

00:33:28.160 was enfranchised

00:33:29.160 and everyone had rights

00:33:30.200 but everyone

00:33:31.080 was roughly

00:33:31.820 not everyone

00:33:32.720 but most people

00:33:33.520 were sort of united

00:33:34.260 in a sense

00:33:34.880 of common purpose

00:33:35.660 and culture

00:33:36.120 they were Americans

00:33:36.740 and they knew

00:33:37.640 what that meant

00:33:38.120 we don't have that anymore

00:33:39.820 and that's Trump's vision

00:33:41.020 so you may not think

00:33:42.540 that's possible

00:33:43.180 you may not think

00:33:45.260 maybe that's even

00:33:46.000 virtuous

00:33:46.740 to want that

00:33:47.800 but if you think

00:33:48.880 that's a grotesque

00:33:49.860 hellscape

00:33:50.380 that he's describing 0.99

00:33:51.220 you're the freak 0.61

00:33:52.280 not him

00:33:52.920 and yet they all

00:33:54.540 feel that way

00:33:55.100 they mean it too

00:33:56.060 they really feel that way

00:33:56.960 it's not a joke

00:33:57.660 and so what's gonna happen

00:33:59.940 and I guess

00:34:00.480 I dissent a little bit

00:34:01.640 from the much more

00:34:02.800 optimistic view

00:34:03.420 that you have

00:34:04.120 both of you

00:34:05.040 which I really appreciate

00:34:06.120 hearing and I want

00:34:06.900 to believe it

00:34:07.540 but that in the end

00:34:08.780 the will of the people

00:34:09.560 matters

00:34:09.980 the conclusion

00:34:10.700 that I've come to

00:34:11.520 is that it matters

00:34:12.180 less than it should

00:34:12.980 and that the people

00:34:14.660 in power really do

00:34:15.380 make the bulk

00:34:15.840 of the decisions

00:34:16.360 and I say that

00:34:17.000 after spending

00:34:17.500 35 years in Washington

00:34:18.680 and watching

00:34:19.380 the agenda

00:34:20.380 of both parties

00:34:21.300 and comparing that agenda

00:34:22.780 to the public opinion

00:34:23.700 polling of what

00:34:24.500 people actually want

00:34:25.440 and finding no union set

00:34:26.900 no union set

00:34:28.540 like they're just

00:34:29.800 not the same agendas

00:34:30.560 and we have

00:34:32.280 a democratic system

00:34:32.960 where these people

00:34:33.420 are elected

00:34:33.680 every two years

00:34:34.240 in the congress

00:34:34.640 every six years

00:34:35.240 in the senate

00:34:35.600 every four years

00:34:36.220 in the white house

00:34:36.760 and their agenda

00:34:38.280 never changes

00:34:38.900 and the desires

00:34:39.920 of the American public

00:34:40.980 by and large

00:34:41.480 are never met

00:34:41.960 or even addressed

00:34:42.660 and you sort of

00:34:43.720 after a while

00:34:44.400 conclude

00:34:44.860 maybe it doesn't

00:34:45.420 matter what people want

00:34:46.220 it only matters

00:34:46.880 what the people

00:34:47.220 in power want

00:34:47.760 I don't want to think that

00:34:49.420 but I don't know

00:34:50.580 what other conclusion

00:34:51.180 to reach

00:34:51.880 so what you have now

00:34:53.580 is a legit mass movement

00:34:55.000 on behalf of Donald Trump

00:34:56.180 that's 100% real

00:34:57.360 and you have absolute

00:34:59.040 ironclad

00:35:00.300 resistance

00:35:01.060 to the democratic process

00:35:03.100 working its way

00:35:03.820 to legitimate inclusion

00:35:04.800 by the people

00:35:05.340 who have all the power

00:35:06.000 what happens next

00:35:07.280 I don't even know

00:35:08.920 and I'll sum it up this way

00:35:10.660 today it is a race

00:35:12.440 in the foreseeable future

00:35:13.900 between Donald Trump

00:35:14.980 the former president

00:35:15.800 now effectively

00:35:16.740 the republican nominee

00:35:17.640 and the incumbent president

00:35:19.400 president

00:35:20.180 who got more votes

00:35:21.720 than Barack Obama

00:35:22.480 somehow

00:35:23.100 because he's just so popular

00:35:25.980 this is the magnetism

00:35:27.480 he spent the entire

00:35:30.120 2020 campaign

00:35:31.240 moldering and deteriorating

00:35:32.820 in his basement

00:35:33.400 and somehow

00:35:33.960 he was more popular

00:35:35.080 than Barack Obama

00:35:35.940 right

00:35:36.880 okay

00:35:37.200 anyway

00:35:37.660 so it's the race

00:35:39.060 between Biden and Obama

00:35:40.140 I just don't see that happening

00:35:42.740 I just don't

00:35:44.340 and that

00:35:44.740 I hope to be wrong

00:35:45.740 I want a return to normalcy too

00:35:47.180 I'm the opposite

00:35:47.860 of a revolutionary too

00:35:48.900 that's what I love about Trump

00:35:50.900 he doesn't want radical change

00:35:52.460 we're not

00:35:53.140 we're not actually made

00:35:54.340 for radical change

00:35:55.060 we can't digest it

00:35:55.880 people hate radical change

00:35:57.000 they want kind of continuity

00:35:59.920 and I do too

00:36:00.940 but I just don't see this playing out

00:36:03.500 the way it's currently formulated

00:36:04.840 sorry

00:36:05.640 see

00:36:07.800 so

00:36:08.260 I would say

00:36:10.560 maybe

00:36:11.060 that

00:36:11.860 and you

00:36:13.060 Tucker

00:36:13.760 you actually asked

00:36:14.560 for an alternative

00:36:15.780 to the view

00:36:16.460 that you were

00:36:17.100 expressing

00:36:18.260 the somewhat pessimistic view

00:36:20.300 of the

00:36:20.840 dominance of people

00:36:22.340 in power

00:36:22.860 in the video

00:36:24.560 that led up

00:36:25.700 to your entrance

00:36:26.600 onto the stage

00:36:27.620 you pointed out

00:36:29.060 a realization

00:36:30.200 that you had

00:36:31.000 which was that

00:36:31.740 nothing better

00:36:33.580 in your life

00:36:34.340 can happen to you

00:36:35.300 than what happens

00:36:36.660 if you tell the truth

00:36:37.800 and I believe

00:36:39.580 that to be the case

00:36:40.640 I actually believe

00:36:42.600 that that's why

00:36:43.280 we have the idea

00:36:44.180 that power

00:36:44.760 is vested

00:36:45.380 in the people

00:36:46.000 and

00:36:47.260 I don't think

00:36:48.280 that power

00:36:48.900 is where

00:36:49.860 people think it is

00:36:51.460 I don't think

00:36:52.140 that power

00:36:52.680 is in the hands

00:36:53.640 of the elite

00:36:54.280 the ability

00:36:55.180 to manipulate

00:36:55.900 misuse power

00:36:57.020 might be in the hand

00:36:57.820 of the elite

00:36:58.580 but the power

00:36:59.780 that we need

00:37:00.400 to set the world

00:37:01.140 straight 0.70

00:37:01.540 is actually

00:37:02.060 at your fingertips

00:37:03.060 and this is actually

00:37:05.120 this is actually

00:37:06.860 a rather terrifying

00:37:07.820 realization

00:37:08.580 you know

00:37:09.660 because

00:37:10.000 there's some relief

00:37:11.580 in thinking

00:37:12.160 that

00:37:12.500 the elites

00:37:13.700 can do

00:37:14.240 whatever they want

00:37:15.220 and there's nothing

00:37:16.020 that someone

00:37:16.640 as small as you

00:37:17.720 could possibly

00:37:18.440 do about it

00:37:19.100 and that's wrong

00:37:20.700 because you're not small

00:37:21.940 and it's wrong

00:37:23.180 because

00:37:23.620 it's irresponsible

00:37:26.140 to presume that

00:37:27.340 and it's wrong

00:37:28.540 because the truth

00:37:29.520 is more terrifying

00:37:30.400 and also more liberating

00:37:31.780 and the truth

00:37:32.360 of the matter

00:37:32.800 is

00:37:33.060 is that

00:37:33.400 if you

00:37:33.920 utilized

00:37:35.000 what you had

00:37:35.840 at hand

00:37:36.440 which at least

00:37:37.900 is the ability

00:37:38.780 that you have

00:37:39.420 at hand

00:37:39.760 to say

00:37:40.380 what you think

00:37:41.340 truly

00:37:42.280 and

00:37:42.740 as clearly

00:37:43.940 as you can

00:37:44.640 even if you're

00:37:45.400 not that articulate

00:37:46.560 that the world

00:37:47.700 would change

00:37:48.400 around you

00:37:48.920 in ways

00:37:49.400 that would

00:37:49.780 make you

00:37:50.460 immune

00:37:51.240 to the blandishments

00:37:52.340 of the

00:37:52.820 power-mongering elite

00:37:54.680 and I'm

00:37:55.880 I'm hoping

00:37:56.840 that enough people

00:37:57.720 will realize

00:37:58.560 their

00:37:59.580 the power

00:38:00.520 of their affinity

00:38:01.300 with the truth

00:38:02.160 especially when it's

00:38:03.120 allied with the will

00:38:04.080 to aim up

00:38:04.740 to

00:38:05.920 to have the courage

00:38:08.020 to speak that truth

00:38:09.140 and if

00:38:09.560 enough people

00:38:10.580 do that

00:38:11.180 then

00:38:11.860 the terrible things

00:38:13.600 that we're

00:38:14.120 concerned about

00:38:15.040 coming forward

00:38:16.920 at us

00:38:17.720 in the future

00:38:18.320 will have

00:38:19.260 no purchase

00:38:19.880 whatsoever

00:38:20.460 you know

00:38:21.440 like I learned

00:38:22.120 a long time ago

00:38:23.020 that

00:38:24.240 the war

00:38:25.240 that we're in

00:38:25.940 is psychological

00:38:26.640 or spiritual

00:38:27.740 if you want

00:38:28.380 to look at it

00:38:28.860 that way

00:38:29.280 rather than

00:38:30.160 political

00:38:30.540 and everyone

00:38:31.000 has a sense

00:38:31.760 of that now

00:38:32.280 that it's

00:38:32.660 something

00:38:32.960 is moving

00:38:34.100 that's more

00:38:34.800 that's deeper

00:38:35.740 than the mere

00:38:36.600 political

00:38:37.260 the tectonic

00:38:38.440 plates themselves

00:38:39.500 are shifting

00:38:40.180 and you

00:38:41.220 you're all

00:38:42.300 going to play

00:38:42.880 a role in that

00:38:43.720 you know

00:38:44.060 and the role

00:38:45.020 you'll play

00:38:45.540 is going

00:38:46.420 to be determined

00:38:47.100 by what you

00:38:47.800 determine to ally

00:38:48.840 your speech

00:38:49.740 with for example

00:38:50.940 your decision

00:38:51.780 about whether or not

00:38:52.660 you're going to tell

00:38:53.120 the truth

00:38:53.480 in the confines

00:38:54.100 of your own life

00:38:54.900 and if enough

00:38:56.100 people

00:38:56.520 all of you

00:38:57.700 if enough

00:38:58.960 of you

00:38:59.400 decide

00:38:59.980 in the local

00:39:01.480 circumstances

00:39:02.240 of your own life

00:39:03.260 to say

00:39:04.000 to dare to say

00:39:05.320 what you believe

00:39:06.120 to be true

00:39:06.780 then

00:39:07.720 the tyrants

00:39:08.960 will have no

00:39:09.580 purchase on you

00:39:10.420 and you won't

00:39:11.100 be slaves

00:39:11.820 and just

00:39:13.060 by definition

00:39:14.280 hey

00:39:16.820 can I just

00:39:17.480 uh

00:39:18.000 that

00:39:19.340 no

00:39:20.260 I just want to say

00:39:21.000 what a beautiful

00:39:21.560 sentiment I think

00:39:22.380 that is

00:39:22.860 and I wish

00:39:23.380 I had said

00:39:23.880 that

00:39:24.180 and I

00:39:25.120 I'm so thankful

00:39:25.960 that you said

00:39:26.560 that

00:39:26.860 and the message

00:39:28.320 that I often

00:39:28.940 get

00:39:29.280 who knows

00:39:30.200 from where

00:39:30.620 is that

00:39:31.660 when I really

00:39:32.300 feel like

00:39:32.600 things are

00:39:32.920 falling apart

00:39:33.460 that they

00:39:33.760 really the only

00:39:34.340 thing I can do

00:39:34.980 is to really

00:39:35.460 try my best

00:39:36.060 to be a better

00:39:36.540 person

00:39:37.040 and that

00:39:37.840 that really

00:39:38.200 matters

00:39:38.520 and specifically

00:39:39.120 I mean

00:39:39.640 to tell the truth

00:39:40.720 all the time

00:39:41.420 not just in public

00:39:42.600 but in private

00:39:43.280 to really love

00:39:44.420 the people around me

00:39:45.480 and be attentive

00:39:47.760 to them

00:39:48.380 more than anything

00:39:49.280 and that in

00:39:50.800 doing that

00:39:51.800 you lose your fear

00:39:53.040 of the future

00:39:54.240 and you know

00:39:55.760 that no matter

00:39:56.800 what happens

00:39:57.480 you're gonna be okay

00:39:58.420 you're not afraid

00:39:59.220 of death

00:39:59.660 and I

00:40:00.140 anyway

00:40:00.540 thank you for saying that

00:40:01.480 since Tucker

00:40:10.420 didn't exactly

00:40:11.440 answer my question

00:40:13.180 I'm going to

00:40:14.020 give an answer

00:40:15.300 and ask you

00:40:15.980 to comment on it

00:40:16.860 I love it

00:40:18.460 many of the people

00:40:20.460 in this stadium

00:40:21.220 would be aware

00:40:22.020 that I am probably

00:40:23.400 though not an

00:40:25.060 uncritical one

00:40:26.160 the most vocal

00:40:28.200 and consistent

00:40:29.100 supporter

00:40:29.800 of President Trump

00:40:31.500 in Canada

00:40:32.180 and that is

00:40:38.240 based on the fact

00:40:39.240 that it's been

00:40:39.800 my privilege

00:40:40.420 to know him

00:40:41.020 for 25 years

00:40:42.100 and he's always

00:40:42.660 been a good

00:40:43.220 and loyal friend

00:40:44.200 including in

00:40:45.780 the worst of times

00:40:47.220 that I endured

00:40:47.960 when many

00:40:49.120 of his financial

00:40:50.320 peers

00:40:51.280 in the United States

00:40:52.760 and in this country

00:40:53.620 had a merciless

00:40:56.140 attack of amnesia

00:40:57.360 and forgot my phone number

00:40:58.640 and he did not

00:40:59.920 but I also

00:41:03.020 evaluate him

00:41:04.400 as a statesman

00:41:05.200 and I put it

00:41:06.200 to you Tucker

00:41:07.000 that there is

00:41:08.940 a clear

00:41:09.600 really a clearly

00:41:12.840 discernible tendency

00:41:14.480 in the run up

00:41:15.880 to your election

00:41:16.600 the forces

00:41:18.880 that abominate

00:41:20.640 Trump

00:41:21.020 and even

00:41:24.020 highly intelligent

00:41:25.560 friends of mine

00:41:26.300 and yours

00:41:26.940 who

00:41:28.400 when the word

00:41:30.320 Trump

00:41:30.800 is uttered

00:41:31.420 other than

00:41:31.920 a bridge context

00:41:33.400 bridge card playing

00:41:34.780 context

00:41:35.280 a trap door

00:41:37.040 opens in their forehead

00:41:38.140 and a cuckoo bird

00:41:39.480 flies out

00:41:40.140 and they start

00:41:40.620 screeching nonsense 0.62

00:41:41.820 these people 0.99

00:41:44.580 so

00:41:45.500 obsessed

00:41:49.360 with the hatred

00:41:50.400 of their president

00:41:51.180 are gradually

00:41:54.520 losing ground

00:41:55.480 I mean in the last

00:41:56.500 election

00:41:57.040 to defeat Trump

00:41:58.440 they had to mail out

00:41:59.640 unsolicited

00:42:00.440 81 million ballots

00:42:02.040 millions of them

00:42:03.640 were collected

00:42:04.400 none of them

00:42:05.420 could be verified

00:42:06.320 they were dropped

00:42:07.600 in drop boxes

00:42:08.800 out in rural America

00:42:10.740 in the middle

00:42:12.180 of the night

00:42:12.780 not on election day

00:42:14.120 and on this basis

00:42:15.580 the judiciary

00:42:17.120 abdicated its role

00:42:18.620 as a co-equal

00:42:19.840 branch of your government

00:42:20.940 and wouldn't hear

00:42:22.120 any of the substantive

00:42:23.360 cases

00:42:23.900 or 19 of them

00:42:24.900 they wouldn't hear

00:42:26.380 any of them

00:42:27.000 and they wouldn't judge

00:42:28.900 on the constitutionality

00:42:30.300 of the changes

00:42:31.120 in voting

00:42:31.860 and vote counting rules

00:42:33.200 supposedly

00:42:34.140 to assist voting

00:42:35.280 during the pandemic

00:42:36.260 but really 0.91

00:42:37.340 to screw Trump 0.98

00:42:38.260 and 0.94

00:42:39.000 they were

00:42:41.600 aggravated

00:42:42.660 by the media

00:42:43.520 locking arms

00:42:44.780 and saying

00:42:45.360 every word

00:42:46.520 that Trump

00:42:47.080 and his supporters

00:42:47.860 have uttered

00:42:49.060 criticizing that election

00:42:50.460 were lies

00:42:51.260 not

00:42:51.860 things they disagreed

00:42:53.940 with

00:42:54.120 lies

00:42:54.720 conscious

00:42:55.700 intentional

00:42:56.800 lies

00:42:57.520 deliberate

00:42:58.180 premeditated 0.51

00:42:59.960 lies

00:43:00.400 and

00:43:01.040 this

00:43:02.080 has

00:43:02.520 so annoyed

00:43:04.020 such a large

00:43:05.180 group of Americans

00:43:06.180 that they become

00:43:07.520 progressively angrier

00:43:09.040 the more

00:43:09.960 unreasonable

00:43:10.980 the attempt

00:43:11.580 to destroy

00:43:12.220 democracy

00:43:12.880 by the incumbents

00:43:13.980 has become

00:43:14.660 they see

00:43:15.740 the effective

00:43:16.900 leader of the opposition

00:43:18.020 a former president

00:43:19.220 buried under

00:43:21.960 an avalanche

00:43:22.820 of absolutely

00:43:23.860 nonsensical

00:43:25.520 spurious

00:43:28.320 indictments

00:43:29.660 politically motivated

00:43:31.580 they've seen

00:43:32.140 the corruption

00:43:32.800 of the intelligence

00:43:33.800 of the intelligence

00:43:33.820 agencies

00:43:34.540 with the

00:43:35.020 Trump

00:43:35.600 Russian 0.87

00:43:36.120 nonsense 0.95

00:43:36.820 they've seen

00:43:37.920 the FBI

00:43:38.660 director

00:43:40.160 Comey 0.99

00:43:41.360 saying 245

00:43:43.740 times under oath

00:43:44.820 I don't recall

00:43:45.940 about events

00:43:46.660 a couple of years

00:43:47.380 before

00:43:47.880 having to do

00:43:49.080 with his role

00:43:50.060 in taking

00:43:51.140 a pastiche

00:43:52.520 of defamations

00:43:53.620 calling it

00:43:54.640 intelligence

00:43:55.280 and putting it

00:43:56.040 out into the media

00:43:56.920 that's all been

00:43:57.800 paid for

00:43:58.360 by the Clinton campaign

00:43:59.540 the country

00:44:01.280 sees it

00:44:02.080 and it is

00:44:03.040 getting angrier

00:44:03.980 and angrier

00:44:04.920 and I think

00:44:06.440 there's a sort of

00:44:07.080 rumbling noise

00:44:08.160 in America

00:44:08.800 and what is

00:44:10.840 going to happen

00:44:11.620 is ultimately

00:44:13.500 although it won't

00:44:14.320 be quite

00:44:14.840 put this way

00:44:17.120 it'll be a

00:44:18.360 referendum

00:44:18.880 between

00:44:19.520 those who

00:44:21.300 so hate

00:44:23.220 Trump

00:44:23.660 they're prepared

00:44:24.420 to justify

00:44:25.220 any desecration

00:44:27.160 and

00:44:28.580 debasement

00:44:32.740 and violation

00:44:33.540 of the

00:44:34.320 constitutional

00:44:35.000 democracy

00:44:35.680 of America

00:44:36.300 to keep him

00:44:36.880 out of the

00:44:37.220 White House

00:44:37.660 and those

00:44:38.760 who are so

00:44:39.760 horrified

00:44:40.420 at this

00:44:40.920 desecration

00:44:41.540 of the

00:44:41.860 Constitution

00:44:42.480 that they're

00:44:43.240 absolutely

00:44:43.840 determined

00:44:44.380 to put him

00:44:44.880 back in the

00:44:45.440 White House

00:44:45.860 and I think

00:44:46.680 he will win

00:44:47.360 and I think

00:44:47.920 the fact

00:44:48.380 that he will

00:44:48.780 win

00:44:49.120 when Kant

00:44:50.500 and emotionalism

00:44:51.620 subside

00:44:52.380 and serious

00:44:54.200 history

00:44:54.840 is written

00:44:55.400 I think

00:44:57.080 it will be

00:44:57.540 seen as

00:44:57.980 one of the

00:44:58.480 great

00:44:58.940 positive

00:44:59.580 watermarks

00:45:00.540 in the

00:45:01.340 strengthening

00:45:01.900 and reinforcement

00:45:02.800 of American

00:45:03.500 democracy

00:45:04.080 go Conrad

00:45:08.620 Black 0.64

00:45:08.860 you can

00:45:09.660 when Conrad

00:45:14.080 Black ran 1.00

00:45:14.600 the media

00:45:14.920 in this

00:45:15.240 country

00:45:15.580 it was a

00:45:16.200 better time

00:45:16.700 that was a

00:45:18.840 wonderful

00:45:19.140 summation

00:45:19.680 of the

00:45:21.100 2020 election

00:45:21.940 in which

00:45:22.380 Democrats

00:45:22.920 cheated at

00:45:23.580 scale

00:45:23.900 fact

00:45:24.800 and I

00:45:26.640 hope it

00:45:27.020 plays out

00:45:27.500 in the

00:45:27.720 way that

00:45:28.020 you

00:45:28.120 describe

00:45:28.600 and in

00:45:29.560 my

00:45:29.720 personal

00:45:30.180 view

00:45:30.560 of it

00:45:31.120 my views

00:45:31.820 align pretty

00:45:32.560 substantially

00:45:33.300 with Donald

00:45:33.760 Trump's

00:45:34.220 even if they

00:45:34.940 didn't I

00:45:35.700 would vote

00:45:36.020 for Donald

00:45:36.380 Trump

00:45:36.640 because you

00:45:37.160 can't

00:45:38.480 end 250

00:45:40.120 years of

00:45:40.800 representative

00:45:41.260 democracy

00:45:41.760 because you

00:45:42.080 don't like

00:45:42.320 a candidate

00:45:42.740 period

00:45:43.760 you can't

00:45:44.500 indict people

00:45:45.140 for political

00:45:45.720 reasons which

00:45:46.300 they have

00:45:46.580 done

00:45:46.880 and you

00:45:47.840 can't take

00:45:48.360 people off

00:45:48.920 the ballot

00:45:49.400 in the name

00:45:49.900 of democracy

00:45:50.540 when they

00:45:50.840 haven't been

00:45:51.120 convicted of a

00:45:51.700 crime

00:45:52.020 I mean it's

00:45:52.840 like so nuts

00:45:53.600 so if you

00:45:54.600 care about

00:45:55.160 the systems

00:45:55.840 that your

00:45:56.840 ancestors created

00:45:57.920 and which was

00:45:58.660 the envy of

00:45:59.260 the world

00:45:59.700 I mean half

00:46:00.520 the world

00:46:00.980 more than half

00:46:01.480 the world

00:46:01.820 modeled their

00:46:02.500 democracies

00:46:03.340 after our

00:46:03.840 democracy

00:46:04.380 so if your

00:46:05.200 democracy is

00:46:06.080 erased because

00:46:06.860 people don't

00:46:07.240 like Trump

00:46:07.720 it's kind of a

00:46:09.240 profound change

00:46:10.400 not just in your

00:46:11.060 country but in the

00:46:11.720 world and that's

00:46:13.800 not a good change

00:46:14.500 and you just don't

00:46:15.040 want that so I

00:46:16.020 absolutely hope that

00:46:17.140 it plays out that

00:46:18.520 way I guess part of

00:46:19.520 what I was saying

00:46:20.080 is I don't believe

00:46:21.180 with Trump up

00:46:22.020 eight points or

00:46:22.800 whatever he is

00:46:23.380 now over Biden

00:46:24.280 in the face of

00:46:25.780 four indictments

00:46:26.580 facing life in

00:46:27.800 prison for non

00:46:28.620 crimes

00:46:29.120 the more you

00:46:30.800 know about it

00:46:31.160 the more it

00:46:31.380 defies belief

00:46:32.000 and I think

00:46:32.660 Conrad Black

00:46:33.120 explained it

00:46:33.560 fairly well

00:46:33.900 he's still

00:46:35.960 leading Joe

00:46:36.460 Biden

00:46:36.720 so if the

00:46:38.480 point of the

00:46:38.900 Democratic Party

00:46:39.620 is to hold

00:46:40.320 power not

00:46:41.080 there's nothing

00:46:41.580 ideological with

00:46:42.300 the Democratic

00:46:42.680 Party the idea

00:46:43.420 is we should

00:46:43.880 have the power

00:46:44.340 and you

00:46:44.600 shouldn't

00:46:44.960 that's it

00:46:45.480 they're about

00:46:46.940 to lose power

00:46:47.720 to Trump

00:46:48.240 because Biden

00:46:49.220 is so

00:46:49.780 demonstrably 1.00

00:46:50.720 incompetent 0.99

00:46:51.360 and they're

00:46:54.140 going to make

00:46:54.400 a change

00:46:54.920 of some kind

00:46:55.720 that's not

00:46:57.020 acceptable

00:46:57.360 so I don't

00:46:58.860 know what that

00:46:59.140 change is going

00:46:59.620 to be but I

00:47:00.400 spent my life

00:47:01.100 living with them

00:47:01.600 so I know

00:47:01.880 what they're

00:47:02.140 like and

00:47:03.220 there will be

00:47:04.300 a change

00:47:04.720 they will not

00:47:05.400 lose to Trump

00:47:06.460 if they can

00:47:06.860 help it

00:47:07.200 and I mean

00:47:07.700 it and if

00:47:08.220 that means

00:47:08.640 replacing Biden

00:47:09.560 or doing

00:47:10.520 something unspeakable

00:47:11.400 they will do

00:47:11.900 it

00:47:12.140 they're very

00:47:12.880 serious about

00:47:13.460 this

00:47:13.600 they're much

00:47:14.140 more

00:47:14.320 the other

00:47:14.640 side is much

00:47:15.060 more serious

00:47:15.560 about power

00:47:16.220 than normal

00:47:16.920 people are

00:47:17.520 normal people

00:47:18.640 understand that

00:47:19.240 power is

00:47:20.100 and I alluded

00:47:20.700 to this

00:47:20.960 it's like a

00:47:21.320 double-edged

00:47:21.640 thing

00:47:21.960 it's nice

00:47:23.260 to have it

00:47:23.720 but it can

00:47:24.300 also destroy

00:47:24.780 you 0.52

00:47:25.000 people are

00:47:25.500 they don't

00:47:26.340 necessarily want

00:47:26.820 power

00:47:27.140 I definitely

00:47:27.600 don't want

00:47:27.940 power

00:47:28.220 but a certain

00:47:30.140 kind of hollow

00:47:31.120 person needs

00:47:32.020 it above all

00:47:32.560 so I just

00:47:33.080 think beware

00:47:34.200 they're capable

00:47:34.880 of anything

00:47:35.460 thanks

00:47:38.140 unfortunately

00:47:43.180 we're going

00:47:43.640 to have

00:47:43.800 to wind

00:47:44.100 this up

00:47:44.480 so I'm

00:47:44.860 going to

00:47:45.160 say one

00:47:45.840 brief

00:47:46.420 final comment

00:47:47.740 on the

00:47:48.040 American

00:47:48.340 thing

00:47:48.620 and then

00:47:48.920 ask

00:47:49.300 Jordan

00:47:49.860 to close

00:47:50.860 for the

00:47:51.680 three of

00:47:52.060 us

00:47:52.280 I just

00:47:53.960 very briefly

00:47:55.000 make two

00:47:55.800 points

00:47:56.120 I think

00:47:56.560 that

00:47:56.800 the Trump

00:47:58.660 the Trump

00:47:59.320 haters hate

00:48:00.280 isn't there

00:48:01.400 anymore

00:48:01.880 he doesn't

00:48:03.040 have to

00:48:03.300 walk his

00:48:03.760 tweets

00:48:04.100 back

00:48:04.560 his conduct

00:48:05.660 is not

00:48:06.300 embarrassing

00:48:07.500 or gauche

00:48:08.520 and the

00:48:10.340 Trump

00:48:10.940 they hated

00:48:11.580 they portrayed

00:48:12.600 he gave

00:48:14.100 them plenty

00:48:14.580 of ammunition

00:48:15.140 to do it

00:48:15.680 as a

00:48:17.720 boorish

00:48:19.040 boastful 0.88

00:48:20.300 caricature

00:48:21.840 of the 0.55

00:48:22.200 ugly 0.99

00:48:22.480 American 0.99

00:48:23.020 he isn't

00:48:24.140 there anymore

00:48:24.740 and what

00:48:25.260 has replaced

00:48:26.040 him is a

00:48:27.220 man who

00:48:27.580 of course

00:48:28.000 is confident

00:48:28.800 an ex

00:48:30.700 president

00:48:31.160 a billionaire

00:48:31.920 tends to

00:48:32.620 be confident

00:48:33.200 but he

00:48:35.640 is an

00:48:36.020 underdog

00:48:36.660 being persecuted

00:48:37.720 and fighting

00:48:38.440 it courageously

00:48:39.320 and everybody

00:48:40.260 respects that

00:48:41.260 and I don't

00:48:42.120 think people

00:48:42.540 realize how

00:48:43.360 the public

00:48:44.720 reaction to

00:48:45.480 him has

00:48:45.800 evolved

00:48:46.220 according to

00:48:46.900 that

00:48:47.120 and the

00:48:48.480 final point

00:48:49.540 I'd make

00:48:49.980 is so

00:48:51.040 often all

00:48:51.680 of us

00:48:52.020 here who

00:48:52.420 are generally

00:48:53.420 conservative

00:48:54.060 lament that

00:48:55.260 our party

00:48:56.100 and whichever

00:48:56.700 country

00:48:57.280 is

00:48:59.420 often

00:49:00.840 sort of

00:49:01.780 on a

00:49:02.020 suicide 0.85

00:49:02.360 mission

00:49:02.900 but this

00:49:03.700 time

00:49:04.120 inexplicably

00:49:05.580 to me

00:49:06.060 the

00:49:06.560 Democrats

00:49:07.020 are

00:49:07.380 they

00:49:07.720 appear

00:49:08.080 to be

00:49:08.500 circling

00:49:09.140 the drain

00:49:09.780 ostensibly

00:49:11.700 led

00:49:12.200 by a

00:49:12.800 senescent

00:49:13.440 sticky

00:49:14.040 fingered

00:49:14.640 old 0.96

00:49:14.960 boob 0.81

00:49:15.880 who

00:49:16.380 couldn't

00:49:16.700 run

00:49:16.960 a two

00:49:17.340 car

00:49:17.540 funeral

00:49:18.060 on that

00:49:19.320 I say

00:49:19.700 it pains

00:49:20.380 me to be

00:49:20.900 disrespectful

00:49:21.600 of the

00:49:22.060 occupant

00:49:22.560 of so

00:49:22.880 great

00:49:23.140 an office

00:49:23.620 but I'm

00:49:24.520 afraid

00:49:24.760 that's

00:49:25.060 an accurate

00:49:25.480 description

00:49:26.040 on that

00:49:26.940 I yield

00:49:27.860 the chair

00:49:28.360 to my

00:49:28.900 distinguished

00:49:29.980 friend

00:49:30.560 well we

00:49:42.560 talked

00:49:42.900 tonight

00:49:43.280 you know

00:49:44.080 about

00:49:44.420 the

00:49:45.960 political

00:49:46.300 a lot

00:49:46.920 and

00:49:48.300 I would

00:49:49.140 say to

00:49:49.500 some degree

00:49:49.940 we centered

00:49:50.420 on that

00:49:50.780 we talked

00:49:51.240 a fair

00:49:52.280 bit

00:49:52.580 as well

00:49:52.980 about

00:49:53.220 the

00:49:53.400 psychological

00:49:53.920 and the

00:49:54.420 spiritual

00:49:54.780 and I

00:49:55.760 guess

00:49:56.020 one of

00:49:56.620 the things

00:49:56.980 we might

00:49:57.400 do

00:49:57.680 is reflect

00:49:58.380 on the

00:49:58.920 proper

00:49:59.220 ordering

00:49:59.720 of those

00:50:00.340 you know

00:50:01.240 if there's

00:50:01.680 a moral

00:50:03.540 world

00:50:04.080 let's say

00:50:04.880 that has

00:50:06.240 a hierarchical

00:50:06.980 ordering

00:50:07.440 one of the

00:50:08.980 things that

00:50:09.480 was realized

00:50:10.100 long ago

00:50:10.700 is that

00:50:11.180 there's a

00:50:12.260 dominion of

00:50:12.880 God

00:50:13.180 and there's

00:50:13.520 a dominion

00:50:14.040 of Caesar's

00:50:14.800 and that

00:50:15.100 you render

00:50:15.600 unto God

00:50:16.220 what is

00:50:16.560 God's

00:50:17.020 and unto

00:50:17.360 Caesar

00:50:17.740 what is

00:50:18.540 Caesar's

00:50:18.980 and we

00:50:19.560 rendered a

00:50:20.140 fair bit

00:50:20.720 unto

00:50:22.000 Caesar

00:50:22.400 tonight

00:50:22.840 and

00:50:23.380 maybe

00:50:24.680 I close

00:50:25.220 with some

00:50:26.160 concluding

00:50:27.760 words about

00:50:28.320 what it would

00:50:28.820 mean to

00:50:29.200 render unto

00:50:29.740 God

00:50:30.100 and what it

00:50:30.560 would mean

00:50:31.000 for you

00:50:31.600 all as

00:50:32.020 individuals

00:50:32.580 you know

00:50:33.060 and that

00:50:33.980 would allow

00:50:34.300 us to

00:50:34.620 reflect a

00:50:35.120 little bit

00:50:35.400 more on

00:50:35.880 this idea

00:50:36.780 of upward

00:50:37.620 aim and

00:50:38.080 truth

00:50:38.500 you know

00:50:39.080 I think

00:50:40.560 it's laudable

00:50:41.260 that you're

00:50:41.740 all here

00:50:42.240 even if

00:50:43.860 it's primarily

00:50:44.580 for political

00:50:45.280 reasons

00:50:45.720 because I

00:50:46.280 think that

00:50:46.680 people

00:50:46.980 in a

00:50:48.100 in a

00:50:49.840 democracy

00:50:50.320 and a

00:50:50.560 representative

00:50:51.020 democracy

00:50:51.760 in a

00:50:52.100 free

00:50:52.340 society

00:50:52.960 people who

00:50:54.320 aren't

00:50:54.580 slaves

00:50:54.960 have to

00:50:55.460 take their

00:50:55.820 political

00:50:56.140 responsibility

00:50:56.840 with all due

00:50:58.280 seriousness

00:50:58.800 right

00:50:59.500 otherwise you're

00:51:00.240 not self-governing

00:51:01.060 you abdicate that

00:51:01.900 responsibility

00:51:02.620 to other people

00:51:03.420 and you'll

00:51:03.800 abdicate it

00:51:04.480 if you abdicate it

00:51:05.860 you'll abdicate it 0.97

00:51:06.640 to the psychopaths 0.97

00:51:08.080 who enjoy power

00:51:08.920 and you're not

00:51:10.240 going to like

00:51:10.940 that the

00:51:12.140 consequence of that

00:51:13.040 and so you have to

00:51:13.840 shoulder your

00:51:14.480 political responsibility

00:51:15.460 but then you also

00:51:16.720 have to see it

00:51:17.340 in the proper

00:51:17.880 perspective

00:51:18.400 and I think

00:51:18.900 Tucker was

00:51:19.360 making an

00:51:19.860 allusion to

00:51:20.340 that

00:51:20.560 is that

00:51:20.860 you have

00:51:22.080 your

00:51:22.480 important

00:51:23.460 destiny

00:51:24.020 right in

00:51:24.900 front of

00:51:25.240 you

00:51:25.360 you

00:51:25.600 have to

00:51:26.380 take

00:51:26.560 responsibility

00:51:27.160 for your

00:51:27.700 own

00:51:27.900 lives

00:51:28.260 treat

00:51:28.920 yourself

00:51:29.340 as if

00:51:29.760 you have

00:51:30.140 a certain

00:51:30.580 implicit

00:51:31.120 intrinsic

00:51:32.120 value

00:51:32.680 that you're

00:51:33.620 made in the

00:51:34.060 image of

00:51:34.440 God

00:51:34.660 you might

00:51:34.960 say

00:51:35.260 you have

00:51:35.620 to treat

00:51:35.960 the people

00:51:36.440 around

00:51:36.800 you

00:51:37.000 your wife

00:51:37.540 your husband

00:51:38.080 as if

00:51:39.880 they have

00:51:40.200 the same

00:51:40.540 value

00:51:40.900 as you

00:51:41.320 and you

00:51:42.160 have to

00:51:42.380 do

00:51:42.500 everything

00:51:42.800 to

00:51:43.260 foster

00:51:44.540 their

00:51:44.760 development

00:51:45.220 and your

00:51:45.600 relationship

00:51:46.080 and you

00:51:46.400 have to

00:51:46.620 do that

00:51:46.880 with your

00:51:47.180 family

00:51:47.560 and then

00:51:47.960 your family

00:51:48.580 has to

00:51:48.940 do that

00:51:49.260 with its

00:51:49.600 community

00:51:50.060 your town

00:51:51.000 and your

00:51:51.460 your local

00:51:52.400 businesses

00:51:53.300 your friends

00:51:54.360 and then

00:51:55.620 all of those

00:51:56.780 local enterprises

00:51:57.880 have to do that

00:51:58.840 at the level

00:51:59.440 of city

00:51:59.860 and province

00:52:00.480 and then

00:52:01.080 if there's

00:52:01.500 anything

00:52:01.760 left over

00:52:02.400 the higher

00:52:03.320 order

00:52:03.680 political

00:52:04.400 system

00:52:04.900 can deal

00:52:05.460 with that

00:52:05.920 but

00:52:06.160 you want

00:52:08.120 to walk

00:52:08.420 out of here

00:52:08.800 tonight

00:52:09.120 thinking about

00:52:09.700 how you

00:52:10.040 want to

00:52:10.940 aim the

00:52:11.440 world

00:52:11.660 in the

00:52:11.920 proper

00:52:12.180 place

00:52:12.540 part of

00:52:12.920 that

00:52:13.080 is your

00:52:13.420 political

00:52:13.740 deliberations

00:52:14.540 but much

00:52:14.980 more

00:52:15.240 that

00:52:15.500 is the

00:52:15.960 ethic

00:52:16.820 that you

00:52:17.260 bring

00:52:17.520 forward

00:52:17.980 in your

00:52:18.820 life

00:52:19.100 and in

00:52:19.360 your

00:52:19.500 words

00:52:19.940 and I

00:52:20.760 truly

00:52:21.240 believe

00:52:21.640 as I

00:52:22.020 said

00:52:22.340 that

00:52:23.260 you

00:52:24.020 have a

00:52:24.380 very

00:52:24.560 important

00:52:24.920 role

00:52:25.180 to play

00:52:25.560 in how

00:52:26.060 the world

00:52:26.380 is going

00:52:26.680 to lay

00:52:27.580 itself

00:52:27.860 out

00:52:28.100 are we

00:52:28.420 going

00:52:28.600 to be

00:52:28.860 optimistic

00:52:29.300 or pessimistic

00:52:30.120 I would

00:52:30.760 say to a

00:52:31.480 very large

00:52:31.960 degree

00:52:32.300 and more

00:52:32.660 than you

00:52:32.980 think

00:52:33.180 it depends

00:52:33.640 on the

00:52:34.620 decision

00:52:35.040 that you

00:52:35.460 make

00:52:35.760 with every

00:52:36.200 act

00:52:36.500 you

00:52:36.660 take

00:52:36.960 about

00:52:37.200 whether

00:52:37.460 or not

00:52:37.740 you're

00:52:37.960 aiming

00:52:38.220 towards

00:52:39.120 something

00:52:39.480 better

00:52:39.760 or

00:52:39.980 towards

00:52:40.360 something

00:52:40.720 worse

00:52:41.100 and to

00:52:42.220 the degree

00:52:42.620 that you're

00:52:43.000 aiming at

00:52:43.360 something

00:52:43.620 worse

00:52:43.900 you'll

00:52:44.160 get

00:52:44.300 exactly

00:52:44.720 what

00:52:44.960 you're

00:52:45.160 asking

00:52:45.400 for

00:52:45.760 and to

00:52:46.460 the degree

00:52:46.880 that you're

00:52:47.240 aiming at

00:52:47.580 something

00:52:47.840 better

00:52:48.200 you could

00:52:49.240 play a

00:52:49.640 signal force

00:52:50.260 in bringing

00:52:50.640 that about

00:52:51.140 and the

00:52:51.760 better you

00:52:52.160 got at

00:52:52.560 that

00:52:52.820 as your

00:52:53.360 aim

00:52:53.540 improved

00:52:54.020 and the

00:52:54.520 truth

00:52:54.940 of your

00:52:55.260 words

00:52:55.740 mounted

00:52:57.620 in power

00:52:58.740 the more

00:52:59.500 effective a

00:53:00.100 force you

00:53:00.500 would be

00:53:00.980 in promoting

00:53:02.240 what's good

00:53:02.800 and you

00:53:03.400 have that

00:53:04.060 opportunity

00:53:04.660 as we

00:53:05.460 all do

00:53:05.960 and so

00:53:06.700 I would

00:53:07.420 say in

00:53:07.820 closing

00:53:08.140 we can

00:53:08.840 watch this

00:53:09.440 strange

00:53:10.120 political

00:53:10.620 year

00:53:11.000 unfold

00:53:11.540 and we

00:53:12.220 can hope

00:53:12.540 for the

00:53:12.840 best

00:53:13.120 but we

00:53:13.540 can also

00:53:13.980 strive

00:53:14.500 with all

00:53:14.860 of our

00:53:15.140 might

00:53:15.380 to make

00:53:16.100 sure

00:53:16.320 that we're

00:53:16.680 part of

00:53:16.980 the force

00:53:17.340 that's

00:53:17.580 actually

00:53:17.920 aiming at

00:53:18.380 the best

00:53:18.880 and we

00:53:19.580 can all

00:53:20.060 do that

00:53:20.660 thank you

00:53:41.000 of our

00:53:47.240 thank you

00:53:48.000 and I

The Tucker Carlson Show - January 27, 2024

Jordan Peterson & Conrad Black

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