In this episode, Tucker and Jordan debate whether Chrystia Freeland is worse than Hitler for her comments about Donald Trump and his comparison to Adolf Hitler. They also debate the recent arrest of journalist David Menzies, who tried to ask a question of the Prime Minister's office, and whether or not the actions of her security detail were enough to make him a criminal. Also, Jordan and Tucker debate whether it's a good or bad thing that the PM's security detail arrested a reporter who asked a question about the PM, and if it's fair to blame them or the police for the actions they took, or if they should have done anything about it. And, of course, they debate whether the PM should resign or not, and what the public should do in the wake of the recent events in Canada and the U.S. in the aftermath of the Trudeau government s victory in the election, and the implications for the future of Canada's relationship with the EU, Canada's trade deal with China, and its relationship with Canada's relations with the Arab neighbours, and much more, the question of whether she's better than Hitler, or worse than the Nazis, and why she should resign, and how she should be removed from power, and who should replace her if she's not a threat to Canada's values and values, and not be allowed to stand a chance of winning the next election, or not to run for re-election, or whether she should quit the race for a chance to be re-elected, or be given another chance to run in the next time, and do so in a second election, the answer to the question, "Is she's Hitler or Hitler's Hitler? or is she better than the Nazi analogy? . . . well, who's better, Hitler or the Nazi comparison really matters, right or the Hitler comparison, or is it? , and what do they both of them better than she's worse than that? ... and what's the difference between Hitler and the Nazi equivalence, and Hitler's Nazi comparison? and the Nazis? ? The answer to that question is... . Is she's a better Hitler than the Queen, or the Queen Elizabeth II, or Hitler, and is she a better than The Queen a better Nazi? or a better Queen than the Hitler of the Nazi, or does she really have an IQ in IQ in the Hitler-like figure than the Briton?
00:00:00.000Believe it or not, I am the moderator.
00:00:16.480I'd like to start by just replying to some of the things Tucker said.
00:00:21.020And generally, our challenge here tonight is that Tucker and Jordan and I agree on almost everything.
00:00:28.580So we're trying to get a bit of controversy going.
00:00:31.540But I would say this, Tucker, as far as I can see, the governing party in your country now has, as its sole claim to resumption of its mandate, the equation Trump equals Hitler, which is, of course, so fatuous and outrageous that no person with an IQ in at least double figures could believe it.
00:00:53.100And it will get the reception it deserves on Election Day, I think, despite massive efforts at stuffing the ballot boxes and bringing, you know, non-existent people onto the voting list.
00:01:05.320But because of that, I think we should be doubly careful about suggesting that Chrystia Freeland, whom I also know, I've known her for some years, is worse than the Nazis.
00:02:01.300If I could just, and this is a problem that I have had my whole life, I don't fully explain what I think, and you raise a really good point.
00:02:08.300I made a serious charge against her, and let me just be a lot more precise about why I believe what I said.
00:02:14.300I saw the video the other day, and I've never taken her seriously, as I said.
00:02:18.420But I didn't think that she was as malicious and cold as I now believe she is until I saw the video of David Menzies from Rebel News being arrested after trying to ask her a question.
00:02:31.140And I thought to myself, as someone who is often approached by people as I walk into buildings with questions, how would I feel if someone approached me and asked a question, even a question I don't like, and my security team threw him against a wall and put him in handcuffs?
00:02:47.120I would say, you stop that immediately.
00:02:48.480I could not, as a matter of conscience, allow a man to be arrested in my presence for asking a question.
00:02:55.400And I think that anyone who thinks that's okay is a truly dangerous person who should not have power.
00:03:33.200Precisely the kind of initiative you attributed to the people in goose-stepping and tight uniforms.
00:03:39.280I mean, many people, especially in the United States, still think of the RCMP as people in red tunics with a musical ride and, you know, Rosemary with Nelson Eddy and so on singing in the Rockies here.
00:03:52.360But we saw in the McDonald Commission inquiry after the imposition of the War Measures Act by the elder Trudeau in 1970, what an absolutely incompetent bunch of palookas the RCMP are.
00:04:07.420So some of the blame belongs on them, their initiative.
00:04:11.080I agree, but it's her security detail.
00:04:13.520And as someone, I know you spent a lot of your life with security around you, whatever, you just can't allow that.
00:04:17.620You just cannot allow people to behave that way because it's such a violation of human rights.
00:04:22.300And that's happening in this country and no one's saying anything about it.
00:04:28.680We've had discussions in Calgary earlier today and last night, and I emerged as the optimist.
00:04:35.560And I'm not an absolute optimist, but in fact, I think the public is turning in this country and in the United States.
00:04:42.540I'm afraid as a member of the British Parliament, I can't hold out any hope for England for the next five years, but it'll come to its senses eventually.
00:04:51.900But I think it's turning, and we see it tonight.
00:04:55.180We see it, believe it or not, it is even the case in Toronto where you Albertans have more friends and admirers than you think, including Jordan and me.
00:05:03.960A city I may say that I understand Albertans don't like Toronto and I don't blame them.
00:05:08.300But when Tucker compares Toronto to Gary, Indiana, which is a bombed out rubble heap of abandoned steel factories and rioters and drug dealers, he stirs up something I was not aware that I possessed.
00:05:23.960And that was a bit of municipal chauvinism.
00:05:26.280I would like to ask Jordan, on this business of, I mean, we agree, I think everyone in this great stadium agrees with Tucker's denunciation of our health system.
00:05:44.480It's a shambles and a disgrace, and it is so bad that, as he said, the health system that's supposed to promote life is now selling the virtues of suicide, and not only to sick people, to poor people as well, as if you have no chance of recovering and becoming prosperous.
00:06:01.000But, Jordan, where do you stand on this optimism, pessimism scale that Tucker and I have built up a little here?
00:06:08.140I think we have every reason to assume that, and I guess this is why I'm going around the world talking to people, I guess, is that I think that if we put our hearts and our souls into it,
00:06:38.060that we could make this world into a place that's so good, we could hardly imagine it, and I think with the technology,
00:06:45.340I think with the technology that's in front of us, which is transforming at a rate that's beyond comprehensible, literally,
00:06:54.920that we could do much better in the next 50 years than we did in the last 200, and that's really saying something.
00:07:02.240But, I also think that if we let the worst parts of ourselves gain the upper hand, given our enhanced technological power,
00:07:15.480we could produce a hell that would make Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany look like practice.
00:07:23.040And so, there's a great hope in that, but a great warning.
00:07:29.120And one of the things you all want to consider, too, is that because you're so much more powerful than people were in the past,
00:07:37.420with the technology that you have at your disposal, with the influence that you can have in the world,
00:07:42.080that all your particular and individual moral flaws are going to find their amplification in the world
00:07:49.680in a way that wasn't really evidently true in the past.
00:07:54.760And so, I think that if we got our act together, things could be unbelievably positive.
00:08:01.780But, if we remain narcissistic, infantile, and foolish, like certain of our leaders,
00:08:12.380then things could go extraordinarily badly.
00:08:16.520And I think we'll see how that plays out in the course of the lifetimes of most of the people in this room.
00:08:22.040I have the honor of sharing a podcast with the eminent historian Victor Hanson
00:08:33.740and the former U.S. drug czar and Education Secretary Bill Bennett.
00:08:40.280And Victor presents, I think very accurately, the correlation of forces in our English-speaking countries' societies
00:08:49.720that Tucker referred to, the enemy of practically all of us here,
00:08:55.500unless they're spies from the CBC or elsewhere,
00:08:58.540they possess the academy, they possess the media,
00:09:04.000they possess Wall Street and the equivalent, to an extent, in Canada.
00:09:09.720Silicon Valley, which I agree with you, is an abominable place.
00:09:13.840You should direct your strictures against them instead of Toronto.
00:09:17.100And they have big entertainment and big sport.
00:09:23.560I mean, people are tremendously talented at entertaining in athletics,
00:09:28.120but are utter morons politically, malignant morons, many of them.
00:09:32.540They have all of that, but we have the people.