Justin Haskins of The Heartland Institute says he has proof that mail-in voter fraud is even worse than we even thought.
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It's now apparently a criminal offense of felony in this country to suggest the 2020 presidential campaign was not on the level of voter fraud that appears to form the basis of one of Donald Trump's pending indictments. In this episode, we dig deep into the results of a recent poll and discuss the implications for democracy and democracy in general, and why the results suggest the election results can't be trusted. We're joined by Justin Haskins, senior fellow at the Heartland Institute, to discuss the shocking results of the poll, and whether or not they reflect the reality of actual voter fraud in the United States of America. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsorships and use the promo code "sponsors" to receive 10% off your entire purchase when you sign up for our 1-click VIP membership offer! Thanks to our sponsor, Blue Apron! Subscribe to our new podcast, Mythology, wherever you get your news and information, to help spread the word about what's going on in our world. Mythology is fact-checking the biggest true crime story of the 21st century, and debunking the biggest urban legend in our culture. Subscribe today's newest viral video, "The Dark Side of the Internet" by clicking here. We hope you'll check out our newest episode of Mythology: True Crime? Subscribe to Mythology? Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on Podchaser? Subscribe on iTunes? Learn more about our new show, "True Crime" by searching "Outlaw" by "Outright" or "Outward"? "Thank you for listening to this episode on our new episode on this episode? "This episode is a real thing?" -- "Outday" by Tom McCarthy? -- "A must-listener beware of this episode by "Notorious" by or "Auralism" "A real thing" -- "The Real Story" Thank you, "A rare thing?" "A chance to learn more about it's gonna be more like it's not better than that ... " "And so much more like that right ... " That's not even that's not really like that that s not really that or that's right, right or that's that right, "that's not like that?" "That's right?"
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check that out here's today's episode it's now apparently a criminal offense of felony in this
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country to suggest the 2020 presidential campaign was not on the level that crime appears to form
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the basis of one of donald trump's pending indictments he's an election denier but actually
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it's worth denying the legitimacy of that election because it was not fair critical information was
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withheld from voters through censorship and yes by the government that is a fact it's also a fact
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that mark zuckerberg spent 400 million dollars to control voting in various places around the
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country and affect the outcome that's not legitimate it was also conducted in many places through
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electronic voting machines and no country should ever use electronic voting machines because
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fundamentally they cannot be trusted why would you trust it but then there's the question of outright
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cheating voter fraud was there voter fraud well we know there was some but was it widespread that is
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a hard allegation to prove though of course many people believe there was widespread fraud well now it turns
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out we know for a fact that there was and in fact it can be proven with a poll just ask people did you
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personally commit voter fraud well that has just been done and the answer is a huge percentage of people
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asked in the poll admitted yes i committed voter fraud it's remarkable justin haskins is a senior fellow at the
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heartland institute he joins us now with details justin thanks so much for coming on if you could just
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start by giving us the results the shocking results of this poll and we'll go from there sure so uh it was
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pretty straightforward we asked people um a series of questions um the first of which is or one of the
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first questions was did you vote in uh the 2020 election and did you vote with an absentee ballot
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and if they answered yes to both of those questions then we asked a bunch of questions related to voter
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fraud we didn't tell them that they were that we were asking did you commit voter fraud we just asked
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them about various behaviors so for example we asked uh people did you vote in a state where you're no
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longer a legal resident that's a pretty straightforward question uh if you're not a permanent resident of a
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state you can't vote there 17 percent of people nearly one in five said yes they did do that we asked
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people did you fill out a ballot for someone else on their behalf that's also illegal you're not allowed
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to fill out someone else's ballot 21 percent of people said yes to that question we asked if people
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forged the signature of a friend or family member on their behalf with or without their permission
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we actually put that in the poll question and 17 percent of people said yes to that so all told
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it's at least and i say at least one in five mail-in ballots involved some kind of fraudulent activity but
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we didn't just stop uh there we also asked everyone whether they voted via mail-in ballot or not so in
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person voting as well do you know anyone who personally in your personal life a friend a family member
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acquaintance someone from work has anyone ever admitted to you that they did one of these kinds
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of forms of voter fraud and 10 percent and 11 percent we asked two different questions on that
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said yes people admitted to me that they committed voter fraud and so when you take one in five if we
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just take the one in five mail-in ballots could be related to fraud and you apply that to the numbers
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of the 2020 election which included more mail-in balloting than at any point in the history of the
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united states of america what you end up with is potentially 13 million fraudulent mail-in ballots
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and uh to put that in perspective donald trump lost the election in the popular vote by about 7 million
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ballots so this is a massive massive story if it if this poll is reflective of reality it is proof
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that the 2020 election results can't be trusted i mean my head is spinning um so and i'm i'm assuming i don't
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know if you asked but i think it would be fair to assume that most of these people who answered in
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the affirmative are democrats uh well it would be fair to assume that i think based on certain uh things
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that we've learned in the past but actually what we found was that the voter fraud was uh about equal
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between self-identified republicans and democrats um however and this is really important to keep in
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mind uh we don't have enough data to statistically uh determine that that's an act a really solid
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accurate result because you're now digging really deep into the polling data and the sample size is
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getting smaller and smaller um but let's say that's true and it was equal let's say democrats and
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republicans committed fraud at equal rates actually that's not the most important consideration
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because joe biden depended extremely heavily on mail-in ballots even if the fraud were equal
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between republicans and democrats it would hurt joe biden it would not hurt donald trump in terms of
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his ability to win elections so um assuming the fraud was equal between republicans and democrats if
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you just take the poll and you apply it to the election data that we have about the 2020 election
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uh donald trump would win in all six of the swing states that he lost to joe biden in 2020 which means
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the wrong person is in the white house right now if this poll is accurate pardon my bad memory but how
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dependent was joe biden on mail-in ballots well it varied from state to state but generally speaking
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he uh had twice as many mail-in ballots vote for him than than donald trump did and in some states
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uh like say pennsylvania for example the ratio was something like 70 percent to 20 something percent
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in favor of joe biden so without those ballots joe biden would not win that i mean that right there
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without your poll which i think is a conversation changer uh forever i hope um you have to ask why
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would joe biden have a natural advantage in mail-in ballots i mean honestly like what is that
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if fraud is playing no part here yeah i i mean does anything else explain that it it makes absolutely
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no sense no no i mean it doesn't make any sense especially in a state where the election is split
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pretty close to 50 50 uh you might see slight variations in voting behavior based on party
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affiliation in the past that's something that we've seen but we've never seen anything like
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a 70 30 split or 75 25 split you just don't see that well especially since republicans are
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statistically more likely to have jobs and less free time than democrats i mean much less i mean far
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higher percentage of democrats than republicans are not working and taking state aid for example so
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and presumably the idea behind mail-in ballots is people are just like too busy i'm working at my job i
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don't have time to go to the polling place or whatever so right i mean i don't see any of the logical
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explanation other than theft how how has this been age age and disability is also a big part of
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it so how i mean and republicans are more likely to be older this seems like a huge deal
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so i mean what's the response been well from from the right from conservatives the response at least
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most conservatives the response has been i mean this is a game changer this is one of the biggest
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stories of of the year for sure donald trump himself has said it's the biggest story of the year uh it's
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one of the biggest polls in the last 20 years he said and i think that that's exactly right we should
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be asking questions we should be launching investigations the sad thing about all of this
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is that the mainstream press doesn't care they don't even care enough to talk about it to refute it
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they don't care because they got the result that they wanted which was joe biden in the white house
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and anyone who dared to ask questions about that has been labeled a conspiracy theorist an
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insurrectionist a person who doesn't deserve to have a platform of any kind um and you can't have a free
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society like that and now we're seeing as we've seen with so many other stories like covid the origins
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of covid for example or whether lockdowns are a good idea people initially who questioned the validity
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of the election were targeted and their lives in some cases were destroyed the careers were destroyed
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they were attacked um and now we're finding out that all you had to do was just ask people you just
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had to do the very basics of journalism which is to ask questions and seek the truth just ask people
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hey did you do this thing did you did you do this thing you weren't supposed to do did you vote
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in a state where you're no longer a permanent resident i mean did you fill someone else's ballot
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out for them you're not supposed to do that did you do that no one in the media establishment uh on
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the left especially but in much of the on the right as well didn't even bother to ask the question we
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just assumed that no that couldn't possibly have happened even though obviously the opportunity for
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fraud was there and so i think the bigger story here really in many ways is is not that that joe
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biden is president when donald trump should probably be president that's a massive story but the
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biggest story is can we trust the media at all to tell us the truth or to even bother to ask questions
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when an important story like this comes up and i think the answer is obviously as you know and as many
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of your viewers know no we can't and how can you have a free society like that well it's of course
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not a free society anymore um so the new york times never wrote about this no the new york times the
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only major left-wing media outlet and i say left-wing meaning establishment media outlet that covered it
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was the washington post which wrote uh an article uh very quickly without taking it very seriously
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saying essentially hey you can't trust anything that these crazy people at the heartland institute do
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or rasmussen reports these people are far right-wing extremists and election deniers etc and so don't
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listen to them uh and they were the only ones no literally nobody else as far as i'm aware on the left
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has talked about this just uh it's really well i continue to think it's one of the most amazing things
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i've ever heard they admitted it no one had ever asked them uh until you did justin haskins of
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heartland institute thank you for joining us thanks tucker thanks for listening to the tucker
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