The Tucker Carlson Show - April 26, 2024


Justin Haskins of The Heartland Institute says he has proof that mail-in voter fraud is even worse than we even thought.


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Tucker carlson: It's now apparently a criminal offense of felony in this country to suggest the 2020 presidential campaign was not on the level that crime appears to form the basis of one of donald trump's pending indictments he's an election denier but actually it's worth denying the legitimacy of that election because it was not fair critical information was withheld from voters through censorship .

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00:00:00.000 welcome to the tucker carlson podcast where every story is an honest story and not one of them
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00:00:21.640 you can find all of it and a lot of exclusive content at tucker carlson.com we hope you'll
00:00:26.600 check that out here's today's episode it's now apparently a criminal offense of felony in this
00:00:32.420 country to suggest the 2020 presidential campaign was not on the level that crime appears to form
00:00:39.100 the basis of one of donald trump's pending indictments he's an election denier but actually
00:00:45.040 it's worth denying the legitimacy of that election because it was not fair critical information was
00:00:51.020 withheld from voters through censorship and yes by the government that is a fact it's also a fact
00:00:57.660 that mark zuckerberg spent 400 million dollars to control voting in various places around the
00:01:02.960 country and affect the outcome that's not legitimate it was also conducted in many places through
00:01:08.600 electronic voting machines and no country should ever use electronic voting machines because
00:01:13.000 fundamentally they cannot be trusted why would you trust it but then there's the question of outright
00:01:18.280 cheating voter fraud was there voter fraud well we know there was some but was it widespread that is
00:01:25.060 a hard allegation to prove though of course many people believe there was widespread fraud well now it turns
00:01:31.040 out we know for a fact that there was and in fact it can be proven with a poll just ask people did you
00:01:38.380 personally commit voter fraud well that has just been done and the answer is a huge percentage of people
00:01:44.780 asked in the poll admitted yes i committed voter fraud it's remarkable justin haskins is a senior fellow at the
00:01:52.540 heartland institute he joins us now with details justin thanks so much for coming on if you could just
00:01:58.780 start by giving us the results the shocking results of this poll and we'll go from there sure so uh it was
00:02:06.400 pretty straightforward we asked people um a series of questions um the first of which is or one of the
00:02:13.440 first questions was did you vote in uh the 2020 election and did you vote with an absentee ballot
00:02:19.280 and if they answered yes to both of those questions then we asked a bunch of questions related to voter
00:02:24.080 fraud we didn't tell them that they were that we were asking did you commit voter fraud we just asked
00:02:28.300 them about various behaviors so for example we asked uh people did you vote in a state where you're no
00:02:35.480 longer a legal resident that's a pretty straightforward question uh if you're not a permanent resident of a
00:02:41.680 state you can't vote there 17 percent of people nearly one in five said yes they did do that we asked
00:02:49.040 people did you fill out a ballot for someone else on their behalf that's also illegal you're not allowed
00:02:54.560 to fill out someone else's ballot 21 percent of people said yes to that question we asked if people
00:03:00.600 forged the signature of a friend or family member on their behalf with or without their permission
00:03:06.200 we actually put that in the poll question and 17 percent of people said yes to that so all told
00:03:13.800 it's at least and i say at least one in five mail-in ballots involved some kind of fraudulent activity but
00:03:21.360 we didn't just stop uh there we also asked everyone whether they voted via mail-in ballot or not so in
00:03:29.000 person voting as well do you know anyone who personally in your personal life a friend a family member
00:03:34.760 acquaintance someone from work has anyone ever admitted to you that they did one of these kinds
00:03:39.820 of forms of voter fraud and 10 percent and 11 percent we asked two different questions on that
00:03:44.980 said yes people admitted to me that they committed voter fraud and so when you take one in five if we
00:03:51.380 just take the one in five mail-in ballots could be related to fraud and you apply that to the numbers
00:03:56.760 of the 2020 election which included more mail-in balloting than at any point in the history of the
00:04:01.700 united states of america what you end up with is potentially 13 million fraudulent mail-in ballots
00:04:08.660 and uh to put that in perspective donald trump lost the election in the popular vote by about 7 million
00:04:16.040 ballots so this is a massive massive story if it if this poll is reflective of reality it is proof
00:04:22.820 that the 2020 election results can't be trusted i mean my head is spinning um so and i'm i'm assuming i don't
00:04:30.240 know if you asked but i think it would be fair to assume that most of these people who answered in
00:04:35.600 the affirmative are democrats uh well it would be fair to assume that i think based on certain uh things
00:04:42.620 that we've learned in the past but actually what we found was that the voter fraud was uh about equal
00:04:48.800 between self-identified republicans and democrats um however and this is really important to keep in
00:04:54.580 mind uh we don't have enough data to statistically uh determine that that's an act a really solid
00:05:01.920 accurate result because you're now digging really deep into the polling data and the sample size is
00:05:07.100 getting smaller and smaller um but let's say that's true and it was equal let's say democrats and
00:05:13.200 republicans committed fraud at equal rates actually that's not the most important consideration
00:05:18.280 because joe biden depended extremely heavily on mail-in ballots even if the fraud were equal
00:05:25.960 between republicans and democrats it would hurt joe biden it would not hurt donald trump in terms of
00:05:31.900 his ability to win elections so um assuming the fraud was equal between republicans and democrats if
00:05:38.620 you just take the poll and you apply it to the election data that we have about the 2020 election
00:05:43.460 uh donald trump would win in all six of the swing states that he lost to joe biden in 2020 which means
00:05:50.940 the wrong person is in the white house right now if this poll is accurate pardon my bad memory but how
00:05:58.180 dependent was joe biden on mail-in ballots well it varied from state to state but generally speaking
00:06:05.020 he uh had twice as many mail-in ballots vote for him than than donald trump did and in some states
00:06:11.860 uh like say pennsylvania for example the ratio was something like 70 percent to 20 something percent
00:06:18.840 in favor of joe biden so without those ballots joe biden would not win that i mean that right there
00:06:25.820 without your poll which i think is a conversation changer uh forever i hope um you have to ask why
00:06:32.940 would joe biden have a natural advantage in mail-in ballots i mean honestly like what is that
00:06:38.320 if fraud is playing no part here yeah i i mean does anything else explain that it it makes absolutely
00:06:45.640 no sense no no i mean it doesn't make any sense especially in a state where the election is split
00:06:52.840 pretty close to 50 50 uh you might see slight variations in voting behavior based on party
00:06:58.760 affiliation in the past that's something that we've seen but we've never seen anything like
00:07:03.100 a 70 30 split or 75 25 split you just don't see that well especially since republicans are
00:07:10.180 statistically more likely to have jobs and less free time than democrats i mean much less i mean far
00:07:17.240 higher percentage of democrats than republicans are not working and taking state aid for example so
00:07:22.600 and presumably the idea behind mail-in ballots is people are just like too busy i'm working at my job i
00:07:28.400 don't have time to go to the polling place or whatever so right i mean i don't see any of the logical
00:07:32.520 explanation other than theft how how has this been age age and disability is also a big part of
00:07:39.100 it so how i mean and republicans are more likely to be older this seems like a huge deal
00:07:45.620 so i mean what's the response been well from from the right from conservatives the response at least
00:07:55.000 most conservatives the response has been i mean this is a game changer this is one of the biggest
00:08:00.420 stories of of the year for sure donald trump himself has said it's the biggest story of the year uh it's
00:08:06.920 one of the biggest polls in the last 20 years he said and i think that that's exactly right we should
00:08:12.500 be asking questions we should be launching investigations the sad thing about all of this
00:08:18.040 is that the mainstream press doesn't care they don't even care enough to talk about it to refute it
00:08:24.640 they don't care because they got the result that they wanted which was joe biden in the white house
00:08:30.180 and anyone who dared to ask questions about that has been labeled a conspiracy theorist an
00:08:37.360 insurrectionist a person who doesn't deserve to have a platform of any kind um and you can't have a free
00:08:44.080 society like that and now we're seeing as we've seen with so many other stories like covid the origins
00:08:49.300 of covid for example or whether lockdowns are a good idea people initially who questioned the validity
00:08:55.080 of the election were targeted and their lives in some cases were destroyed the careers were destroyed
00:09:01.180 they were attacked um and now we're finding out that all you had to do was just ask people you just
00:09:07.080 had to do the very basics of journalism which is to ask questions and seek the truth just ask people
00:09:12.760 hey did you do this thing did you did you do this thing you weren't supposed to do did you vote
00:09:17.280 in a state where you're no longer a permanent resident i mean did you fill someone else's ballot
00:09:22.080 out for them you're not supposed to do that did you do that no one in the media establishment uh on
00:09:27.880 the left especially but in much of the on the right as well didn't even bother to ask the question we
00:09:33.280 just assumed that no that couldn't possibly have happened even though obviously the opportunity for
00:09:39.640 fraud was there and so i think the bigger story here really in many ways is is not that that joe
00:09:46.480 biden is president when donald trump should probably be president that's a massive story but the
00:09:50.360 biggest story is can we trust the media at all to tell us the truth or to even bother to ask questions
00:09:56.600 when an important story like this comes up and i think the answer is obviously as you know and as many
00:10:02.100 of your viewers know no we can't and how can you have a free society like that well it's of course
00:10:07.800 not a free society anymore um so the new york times never wrote about this no the new york times the
00:10:14.320 only major left-wing media outlet and i say left-wing meaning establishment media outlet that covered it
00:10:20.340 was the washington post which wrote uh an article uh very quickly without taking it very seriously
00:10:27.220 saying essentially hey you can't trust anything that these crazy people at the heartland institute do
00:10:31.700 or rasmussen reports these people are far right-wing extremists and election deniers etc and so don't
00:10:38.640 listen to them uh and they were the only ones no literally nobody else as far as i'm aware on the left
00:10:44.140 has talked about this just uh it's really well i continue to think it's one of the most amazing things
00:10:50.120 i've ever heard they admitted it no one had ever asked them uh until you did justin haskins of
00:10:54.260 heartland institute thank you for joining us thanks tucker thanks for listening to the tucker
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