The Tucker Carlson Show - One America News host Dan Ball explains why Democrats in Congress are trying to shut his network down.

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00:00:26.600 check that out here's today's episode if the first amendment means anything and it has to if this is

00:00:32.360 going to remain america it means that the u.s government cannot censor the news it can't make

00:00:38.300 laws to stop journalists from saying what they think is true so that's not a arcane legal question

00:00:47.420 it's in the text it's the first amendment to our bill of rights the whole point of america

00:00:52.880 and yet out there in the open democrats are working to shut down news organizations all

00:00:58.720 over the country we've reported on this for a couple of years but in no case are they doing

00:01:03.320 it more openly than their attempt to shut down a conservative news channel called one america news

00:01:08.320 oan so why are they doing this well they say the channel pushes something called disinformation

00:01:13.380 now disinformation you should know does not mean that something is dishonest or factually incorrect

00:01:20.300 it can be entirely true it just means that the people in charge don't want to hear it and they

00:01:23.600 don't want you to hear it so it's therefore disinformation it's a term stolen from the intel

00:01:27.500 agencies which are part of the apparatus in the federal government that democrats are using

00:01:32.620 to shut down the news so here's california governor gavin newsom going after oan for daring

00:01:39.560 to say that the vaccine might not be safe and effective well the platforms are of concern of course

00:01:44.680 and platforms have to do a better job across the spectrum but they're also those that uh are

00:01:49.760 propaganda machines that are out there as well let's be candid one american news you're familiar

00:01:54.280 with them down here perhaps one of the great disinformation networks in america oh wait it is

00:01:59.720 one of the great disinformation networks in america there's a guy who lies every day for a living

00:02:06.780 and it's not a guess it can be proven there's a guy who locked down the entire state and then went to

00:02:11.460 the french laundry in napa for dinner without a mask on that guy is accusing other people of

00:02:16.860 disinformation so what you have here is the oldest story ever told the people in power don't want to

00:02:21.620 be criticized and in a so-called democratic system they don't want voters to know that they're liars and

00:02:27.160 incompetent so they shut down anyone who tells the truth about them or who spreads a message they

00:02:32.580 don't care for it's just abuse of power it never changes it's been going on since nebuchadnezzar and he

00:02:38.180 learned it from his grandfather because it's never not existed but this country officially disallowed

00:02:43.480 it made it illegal with the bill of rights which is just now being ignored so house democrats are

00:02:48.560 putting pressure on cable providers to cut ties with oan because that's not unconstitutional somehow

00:02:54.560 so we're watching all of this it's getting no attention and we thought why not speak to someone

00:02:58.720 at the center of it dan ball he's a host of real america on one american news on oan and he joins

00:03:04.780 his down studio to explain what's happening to him and his employer dan thanks very much

00:03:08.480 tucker can i say thank you oh my gosh thank you are you kidding for inviting me oan uh some of our

00:03:14.800 managements here in ownership as well we truly appreciate it oh of course been a voice of reason

00:03:20.320 common sense for the people for the constitution for freedom of press freedom of speech so thank you

00:03:25.820 thank you well that's all that matters i mean i've got nothing to do with oan i don't even own a tv

00:03:29.940 as you know but i think it is i hate the word but it's existential it is a question of life or death

00:03:36.260 for the country whether or not the first amendment stands and the idea that democrats in power trying

00:03:41.160 to shut down a news organization for saying things they don't like which by the way happen to be true

00:03:44.740 things yes is uh is is really a threat to life as we know it so thank you so tell us just i'll ask you

00:03:50.500 simple questions and get out of the way how are government officials trying to shut down your news

00:03:57.000 organization so go back to 2020 let's start with the reporting on the hunter biden laptop yes oan was

00:04:04.320 the first one to break that yes say it was legit we had rudy giuliani come on with our chanel ryan

00:04:09.420 and discuss it we even went over to ukraine and interviewed some folks and in august we broke that

00:04:14.400 story before the election we were then called by every single mainstream media outlet and democrats

00:04:19.820 purveyors of disinformation russian propagandist there was people online saying that we were owned by

00:04:24.740 russia that we favored putin that mr herring was bought and paid for by russia or trump i can

00:04:30.460 guarantee you it's a sweet 82 year old hard-working man and his two sons that own us not putin not

00:04:36.360 trump i can assure you i've been there almost four years can i just say because i've been obviously the

00:04:40.860 the subject of this as well yes you know i don't really care who owns your news network anyone's news

00:04:45.320 network if it turned out that you know you were owned by vladimir putin i would which you're not of

00:04:50.120 course but i would still assess the product on its own terms is what you're saying true or not i mean

00:04:56.140 that's all that matters and what they tell us back then the laptop was russian disinformation you had

00:05:01.800 those what 50 some x intelligence community people say it was misinformation disinformation russian

00:05:08.240 propaganda yes sir and we aired it so that's when it really started okay they they looked at us and

00:05:13.640 went oh my god these guys are going to interfere with the election because we're spitting truth to

00:05:17.620 power we're telling you this laptop is real the big guy's joe biden he's taking 10 he's used his

00:05:23.300 family and his influence to make millions to enrich himself well they didn't like that very much no

00:05:28.200 and then of course covid we're in the middle of covid we busted through the narrative of the masks

00:05:34.020 aren't working uh when joe took over and he told everybody get the vaccine he was talking about that

00:05:37.920 winter of death and everything we were talking about the irregularities rather you'd see with the

00:05:42.140 vaccine when it comes to side effects and deaths they didn't like that so it was kind of

00:05:47.360 cascading downward from the hunter biden laptop story to covid coverage and then we had the 2020

00:05:52.300 election okay and we had people on of course discussing irregularities in the election they

00:05:56.820 didn't like any of that so it started several ways youtube demonetized us i mean every time we put a

00:06:02.200 story about covid masks distancing the laptop boom take it down 30 day suspension 60 days or just try

00:06:07.800 to kill the whole account and then all of a sudden letters came out i think about 21 or 22

00:06:13.120 and somebody can correct me if i'm wrong on the date but you had a letter and i think i gave them

00:06:17.680 to your producers there was a letter from four democrat senators and two california congress folks

00:06:23.780 democrats who sent letters to not only all of the satellite and cable carriers but also to advertisers

00:06:30.960 and they use that little thing from newsguard which i've heard you talk about newsguard and that

00:06:35.140 esg rating and pyramid system it's just a cia operation to shut down the truth of course they told 0.99

00:06:40.620 them to get rid of and your old network was named fox newsmax and oan now who's the smallest on that

00:06:46.300 totem pole we are so they came after us and so they scared away advertisers they got us kicked off

00:06:51.880 multiple carriers frontier verizon direct tv everything because the democrats sent these letters

00:06:57.080 so sitting members of congress tried to get a news channel kicked off the air and bankrupted

00:07:03.420 but isn't that right i mean call me naive in the country i grew up in that was just absolutely

00:07:09.520 not allowed you weren't allowed to do that we're not state-run tv right we're not supposed to be i

00:07:14.000 mean when i got into this it's against the law to do that well but does this regime care look what

00:07:18.040 the biden regime's been doing to this country they don't care about the law look at the border 1.00

00:07:20.740 to the members who just raised themselves by doing this i gave your proof the letters i don't have

00:07:25.080 them in front of me no problem issue was one of them from california and an issue yeah and

00:07:29.420 mckinney mckinney something like that from california that's the two congress folks

00:07:32.780 our house represents and your company's based in southern california yeah we're in san diego

00:07:36.100 you're stomping grounds yeah four senators i don't recall but they were democrats i can tell you that

00:07:39.520 um and i don't have the names off the top of my head but again so they use those letters

00:07:43.000 and in those letters it said we want you to look into these purveyors of disinformation the good old

00:07:49.060 disinformation phrase and then what do you know months later we're kicked off platforms okay

00:07:54.120 we're demonetized on social media our major accounts with millions of followers for oan

00:07:58.420 are shadow banned or censored or fact-checked every damn day right this is what's been going on

00:08:03.260 since 2020 to oan some people covered it and talked about it in 20 and 21 for us and then it

00:08:08.720 kind of went by the wayside you know we went away according to the left because they kicked us off

00:08:13.220 everything but we've been fighting like hell ever since and so again thank you for covering well i

00:08:19.040 mean it's just i'm sorry i just have to pause to internalize all this i mean first of all i'm

00:08:23.960 embarrassed it's taking me so long just to hear the story i'm sort of aware of it but it's shocking to

00:08:28.840 me right because it is so illegal and obviously illegal it's as illegal as anything you could do

00:08:34.580 in america oh tucker listen for members of congress to shut down a news organization because

00:08:39.280 they don't like what it says that is not allowed in the united states that's like any other crime

00:08:43.200 including murder or rape it's not allowed and they're doing it anyway and no one's saying anything

00:08:47.160 about it were there news stories about this uh a couple but not really mainstream i mean

00:08:52.500 breitbart gateway pundit places like that would cover it and say oan's under fire but when you have

00:08:58.100 98 as you know of the mainstream media that leans heavily left and every other day we had an article

00:09:03.880 from mediate media matters uh daily beast rolling stone even ripping oan there's dozens of them

00:09:08.960 online myself too calling me out calling me a purveyor of disinformation a liar a propaganda

00:09:13.620 because you were saying that covid vax didn't work very well we we said that the masks weren't working

00:09:18.680 that the social distancing isn't working and by the way all those reports in the last few months have

00:09:22.460 come out and so it's all true yeah but we were saying it how many people do you know who died of

00:09:26.180 covid how many people do you know who are injured or killed by the vax i've asked that question of a

00:09:29.640 hundred people not one person knows more people who died from covid than were killed or injured by

00:09:33.800 the vax not one maybe the numbers are different i'm just telling you my experience so that's not

00:09:37.840 a crazy thing to ask oh let me tell you when i was out there talking about ivermectin hydroxychloroquine

00:09:42.080 which worked by the way because i tried i did them when i was sick with covid and i felt better in 36

00:09:46.680 hours they i would get death threats and messages going you're killing people by saying that 0.99

00:09:50.960 why are you telling them take chlorine in a horse tranquilizer morons hydroxychloroquine 0.96

00:09:55.640 and ivermectin around for decades so and but it's this constellation of intel agency cutouts 0.98

00:10:02.140 mediaite rolling stone daily beast daily beast it's but it's the same group neoliberal

00:10:11.460 effectively state media or organizations that don't represent a huge percentage of american voters or

00:10:18.860 a meaningful representative no a percentage of american voters but they're just like

00:10:22.360 they're all working in concert they're a mouthpiece for the left and democrats period i mean that's

00:10:27.440 what they are look i got into this just like you you're a few years older than me but i've been

00:10:30.620 doing this for gosh i'm 50 this year and i started at 18 in the military yes for the armed force radio

00:10:35.300 television service so 32 years i've been doing this yes and i started doing it to tell stories to help

00:10:40.540 the people my brother was a firefighter we lost him years ago to cancer but him and i got into debate one

00:10:45.080 time about my job versus his and first responders and people that help the community goes dan your

00:10:49.960 job's important what journalists do is like a public servant you're out there trying to help protect the

00:10:54.240 people tell them the truth of what's going on speak truth to power of government and so don't don't

00:10:59.160 discount yourself don't discredit yourself and so that stuck with me back in 08 my brother told me

00:11:02.980 that before he passed and i come to this network in 2020 and i think oh my gosh here's a place where i

00:11:07.880 can tell the truth mr herring and his sons they don't come down and dictate and say you will have

00:11:12.440 these hosts you or guests you won't have these guests you must use these talking points they're

00:11:15.980 like dan you have 30 years of experience we've been on the air 10 years you know more than us

00:11:19.780 go and they let me be to tell the truth and so i really embrace that and and i gotta say it i fell

00:11:26.260 in love with the network and the family and they've treated me like family and to watch them go through

00:11:30.820 this and the 125 hardworking employees it pisses me off to no end tucker i bet it's that they can do

00:11:35.820 this to us when we have that first article it talks about free speech and freedom of the press 0.98

00:11:40.420 i've dedicated my adult life to it so have you and now we're dealing with this bullshit where they 0.98

00:11:45.160 can just try and shut down an entire family owned mom and pop network it's disgusting it's so un-american 0.99

00:11:51.460 it's like what's happening with the border the people in charge uh don't want to be criticized

00:11:55.780 of course no right but in this country they're not allowed to do anything about it but suddenly they

00:12:00.400 are exactly um so tell me about the carriers and and for those who aren't in the in this business

00:12:06.020 um explain if you would how that works what do you mean carrier from uh satellite and cable and

00:12:12.480 online services so in the year of 2022 from may august and november if i got those three months

00:12:20.460 correct and it went in this order i believe direct tv verizon fios and frontier all dropped us

00:12:25.580 so that means about 20 million households you produce the product the programming the shows

00:12:29.800 and then those shows come into the homes of your viewers through wires owned by and services

00:12:37.000 provided by the companies you just and there's contracts worked out and whatnot and i can't go

00:12:40.660 too deep into all that because there's pending lawsuits of course but that's another way they've

00:12:44.820 tried to silence us is through lawsuits are you satisfied is management of the company satisfied

00:12:51.700 you sincerely believe no bs that you were dropped from those providers because of pressure from the

00:12:57.800 congress 110 of course listen right before they started dropping us comscore which is a rating

00:13:06.020 service i'm sure you're familiar with yeah of course nielsen not the old school books and stuff

00:13:09.160 but comscore had us in the top 10 15 networks of all the cable channels 200 some channels you get on

00:13:15.940 like direct and dish right yeah yeah we were actually scoring close to some of the fox business shows

00:13:20.940 we were beating news max we were climbing my show personally was climbing big time and then all of a

00:13:25.840 sudden we're killed because they saw us growing they saw the audience tuning in to want to hear

00:13:31.660 some truth because they're not come on can you trust msnbc and cnn used to work there and to a degree

00:13:36.540 some of the folks on fox a lot of the mainstream media i i think americans are wising up you can't

00:13:41.200 trust anymore because everybody's figuring out you have to spew a narrative depending on which network

00:13:45.340 you work for so that doesn't happen at oan well that is factually true i can say i can tell you

00:13:52.520 yeah no i know that should be true

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00:15:34.760 um so what happens then they just they stop we're not going to carry your signal into people's homes

00:15:43.080 anymore again i can't go into particulars all i can tell you is that mr herring and his sons tried

00:15:49.480 like hell to keep us on those carriers and we were dropped and that's as far as i can so what do you do

00:15:54.940 that no i i i get up in arms no you're an anchor on the channel i've been in i don't want any more

00:15:58.660 lawsuits against myself i get earrings and our wonderful network or and the employees don't

00:16:03.060 deserve that either so that's why for the first time in 30 some years i'm nervous doing this

00:16:06.880 interview no no i don't trust because i don't want to get a company who's struggling to stay afloat

00:16:13.080 because of what the democrats have been doing because i misspoke but the story's got to be told

00:16:18.360 and you have a massive audience and you can help well i've certainly very often been in the position

00:16:22.960 you were now in you're working for a company that's you think's doing a good thing and they're

00:16:27.100 kind to you and you don't want to inadvertently cause them more problems by talking too much

00:16:31.840 yeah so i'm very very familiar with that position but the story needs to be shared because like you

00:16:37.520 said at the beginning we're talking about the first amendment so what happened to and right and

00:16:41.380 the first woman doesn't mean anything if no one can hear you right you may have a right to speak 0.97

00:16:45.620 but if you know they lock you in a room and no one can hear your words and it's it's a it's immaterial

00:16:50.940 it's not a real right what what happened to your viewership after we had to not rebuild because we

00:16:58.640 still were on i think a hundred and some small cable affiliates around the country in different

00:17:03.700 states where you know you might have a town of 50 000 and their local cable is a co-op they chose

00:17:08.920 to keep you got taken off all the big ones all the big ones all the big ones all the big ones all the

00:17:12.340 big ones so then wait and just to be clear without getting into the details but just so our audience can

00:17:17.260 make their own judgments about what happened and why these companies are not connected to each

00:17:21.260 other they're independent companies yeah right so they all got the letters they all received those

00:17:26.880 you know for a fact they received the letters and they all dropped you within a if you read the

00:17:30.400 letters it literally says we sent to cable and they call the cable and satellite carriers out so yes i

00:17:34.140 would assume it went to every single major cable and satellite carrier from these four democrat

00:17:38.920 senators and two members of the house all democrats so and shortly thereafter you were dropped by

00:17:45.540 all the big cable in the same year yes and then so i think a fair without knowing any other

00:17:51.520 information and maybe you guys committed some heinous crime that i'm not aware of i haven't heard that

00:17:56.420 but just on the basis of what you said which i think is checkable a fair person would conclude

00:18:01.220 they did that in response well i think i would conclude on the basis of that information you're a

00:18:06.820 pretty smart guy tucker i don't know about that but like i can i can note the obvious um i think any

00:18:13.700 american out there with common sense can look at the timeline and say two and two is four because

00:18:19.400 math isn't racist right no no math is not racist yeah maybe the only thing immune from racism um so

00:18:25.500 let's destroy it yeah so where does that leave the company so here's what we did uh we had to

00:18:30.980 scramble we had seen what happened to i believe it was parlor remember when parlor got shut down

00:18:33.880 because the third party servers shut them down we didn't want to and not just the servers like

00:18:38.380 i think it if i'm remembering correctly it was it was everybody right the entire what they call the

00:18:42.860 stack it was all the service providers between the content creator and the consumer all i think

00:18:48.180 their lawyers dropped i mean it was and since we were worried about the same thing right yeah just

00:18:51.880 like when trump started truth you've got to go build everything on your own from scratch if you hire one

00:18:55.480 of these third party vendors they're going to listen to the powers that be so we don't want to trust

00:18:59.440 them so we had to build our own app build up the servers everything and then we launched

00:19:02.960 oan app so you can go to our website you download it's like four or five bucks a month and then you

00:19:08.460 get live streaming on demand everything so we're going streaming like everybody is anyway because

00:19:11.540 let's be real in 20 years what's local news and cable and satellite gonna be everything's streaming

00:19:17.000 like yes it's moving that way so that took us a while to ramp back up and a ton of money too and a ton

00:19:22.880 of money but mr herring who has an amazing story of perseverance and coming from nothing louisiana

00:19:29.360 to creating you know uh millions of dollars for himself in multiple industries over the decades

00:19:34.480 and then getting into tv news about 10 12 years ago um he's been kicking cash in and saying we're

00:19:40.680 going to fight this if we have to all the way to supreme court we're not backing down we have a right

00:19:44.720 to broadcast and they cannot shut us up are they trying to bankrupt us and put us out of business

00:19:48.560 or they legitimately have a concern that we're purveyors of disinformation because i can name probably

00:19:53.320 about nine of the major stories over the last three four years i've covered and we were right

00:19:56.880 and we were right first oh i'm aware because we had the guts to say it because we didn't have

00:20:00.840 corporate lackeys telling us we couldn't like the other big networks so yeah i mean i've been

00:20:05.120 accused of being a tool for putin of putin of russia for you know uh which is i would say material

00:20:11.320 affected my life i've never sued anyone over that you know and i never will so i've never sued

00:20:15.500 anybody i never will sue anybody because i don't i hate it i don't believe in lawsuits but um

00:20:19.100 but anyway leaving that aside it's just interesting that coming out of this is whining but i can't

00:20:24.300 resist you know eight years of like non-stop lying by the daily beast and rolling stone and nbc news

00:20:30.700 and cnn and msnbc and all the rest about really big things like life and death things insurrections

00:20:36.500 and potential nuclear wars and the russian collusion hoax kills exactly i mean if somebody's purvey or

00:20:41.240 misinformation tucker why aren't those other networks getting letters sent about that is sort

00:20:44.960 of the question that is sort of the getting kicked off for misinformation thank you that's my first

00:20:49.640 question if we said something y'all said was misinformation then i can point to as you just

00:20:54.280 said probably 10 or a dozen major stories that cnn msnbc and others have lied or falsely reported

00:21:00.380 about over the last well since 2015 16 since trump came on the scene oh yeah are they kicked off carriers

00:21:05.320 are they being sued well our economy's on the verge of collapse our country's being invaded and we are

00:21:11.120 literally on the cusp of nuclear war actually all because of lies told by nbc news cnn i mean told by their

00:21:18.880 masters in washington but repeated by them and people died because of the covid lies i mean let's

00:21:26.180 all remember again as i said earlier you had the winter of death and you had hosts out there like

00:21:31.200 rachel maddow saying if you get the vax you will not spread it you will not die go get it remember all

00:21:36.360 those people yeah and the celebrities coming together railing around joe saying you must take it and the

00:21:40.560 people that don't are going to kill people we just told people uh it's your body no one can force

00:21:46.940 you to take it and by the way here's the vares reporting website have you looked at vares

00:21:50.740 because there's millions of side effects and thousands of deaths those were facts yet we

00:21:56.200 would get fact checked we would get shadow banned for saying factual stuff you wonder about i always

00:22:02.280 want to i don't have any abortion ladies in my life thank heaven but um when i see the abortion 1.00

00:22:06.600 ladies on tv i always want to say whatever happened to my body my choice you know right whatever 0.67

00:22:11.600 happened to that yeah i know and that's different because actually well it's it's two lives obviously

00:22:17.320 if you take the shot you're risking your own life and if you're for abortion you're killing a life of 0.93

00:22:21.980 course but but just that slogan don't bring that around my whole life like whatever we made an

00:22:26.480 exception for the vax because why

00:22:28.180 i want to ask you again with a in a little more detail so all of this is happening and everyone's

00:22:40.620 ignoring it including me honestly you were busy i don't know about that i just you know there's a

00:22:45.500 lot going on i missed it somehow i should fox wouldn't have allowed you to have me on i don't

00:22:49.000 know about that i never even really read about it or thought about it there's just like so much drama

00:22:52.260 going on that's true how can you keep up it was publicly available this information i know since

00:22:56.620 you texted me and i went back and checked like an informed person could know you can do two minutes

00:23:02.440 of research on duck duck go i'm not pitching that other one and you can find it exactly i'm not gonna

00:23:07.400 say the g word exactly so it to me it's not even about the vax or how corrupt nbc news is

00:23:14.340 irretrievably corrupt but it's about the first amendment to the constitution which specifically

00:23:19.800 prohibits congress from doing what congress did to you correct thank you and so my question is where

00:23:24.620 are all the first amendment watchdog groups and all the media organizations and the white house

00:23:28.340 correspondence association and all the people are supposed to be protecting us from totalitarian

00:23:32.520 oh wait white house correspondents hold on can i butt in quick yeah you mean the folks that wouldn't

00:23:35.900 give us a seat at the table in the press room yeah look that up so our chanel ryan our white house

00:23:40.600 correspondent should have gotten a seat there they pushed back your fellow journalists in dc pushed back

00:23:45.940 wouldn't let her sit so for a couple years she had to stand in the corner once the biden regime got 0.62

00:23:49.620 they kicked us out by the way this is factual you can ask some of our camera guys and chanel

00:23:53.520 our tent that we have on the white house lawn when the biden regime took over guess what happened

00:23:58.140 multiple times our internet line would be cut so either that's a journalist or white house staff

00:24:04.560 so i thought you were going to say they gave your tent to illegal aliens

00:24:07.520 no i don't know they can't they're not going to live at the white house please they want you to

00:24:12.680 move to your house they want they want to give you 500 bucks in michigan to put them in your house

00:24:15.820 there right why am i laughing yeah that happened that literally multiple occasions ask chanel we

00:24:21.500 they would come in the camera guy would set up we try to dial in and oh what's wrong grab the line

00:24:26.380 it's cut or it's broken who did that was it other people in the press corps oh probably doesn't like

00:24:32.760 oan or was it white house staff i don't know had to be one of the two who else is on the ground is

00:24:37.220 going to cut our cord it's probably it really is like getting booted out of a country club you don't

00:24:41.480 want to be a member of though yeah i know it's having spent my life there and a lot of time at the

00:24:44.980 white house it's like the worst saddest emptiest most insecure people in the world cover that 0.98

00:24:51.100 stupid beat and pretend like it's important when of course it's not at all you can get it all on c 1.00

00:24:55.780 span and they're in such a bubble they have no clue what it means to be a regular american who's out 1.00

00:25:01.100 there struggling but they're also like sad bitchy little people they are so impressed 1.00

00:25:04.800 they're miserable right house oh really that's liberals how is that impressive yeah liberals in general 0.99

00:25:09.480 i think are miserable people oh and the ones in the press corps are even worse because they're 0.99

00:25:13.180 so snotty and arrogant and elitist and they think they know better than conservative media people 0.99

00:25:18.260 or just regular americans yeah but it's just a hellish i can't stand them standing there i don't 0.98

00:25:23.320 know how you did it all those years by the way what'd you say i don't know how you did it all those

00:25:25.960 years well i never covered the white house i would just show up you know occasionally to do various

00:25:30.220 things but i always hated it and they're living out of vending machines in a former swimming pool waiting

00:25:35.080 for some low iq political operative to feed them lies and pretending they're real and it's like

00:25:39.220 that's your life really can your wife possibly respect you or sleep with you i don't think so 1.00

00:25:44.100 like it's just not possible it's just not possible and so i understand their bitterness and rage because

00:25:49.840 it's really about themselves and their own wasted lives right unhappy but i do think at some point

00:25:54.620 they have to take a stand on principle just on behalf of the profession itself in the country

00:25:58.000 and say no government is not allowed to shut down news organizations because they don't like

00:26:02.700 what they say did anyone stand up for you is there anybody i'm forgetting that actually stood up for

00:26:08.680 us no i'm trying to remember i can't think of i mean when i would have guests on from different

00:26:13.880 entities like gateway pundit uh the hoffs they would do articles they stood up for us um breitbart did a

00:26:21.000 couple i think those two i don't recall and you know what's sad is what happened to gateway pundit i

00:26:24.920 think i don't think there's any news organization in the world that's being sued by more left-wing

00:26:29.060 groups than gateway pundit yeah they might beat us they might beat us but yeah there wasn't a lot

00:26:33.940 um from what i recall and i'm trying to remember if anybody else did i mean i would have guests on my

00:26:39.660 show that were from other entities and they would say things to support us and then post things but

00:26:44.940 as far as like doing full stories or one-hour interviews and discuss it no nobody did because

00:26:50.500 i guess no we weren't big enough or something or organization well i mean it doesn't doesn't matter

00:26:55.740 we've spent 70 years hearing about the mccarthy blacklist and the darkest moment in american

00:27:00.620 history all those guys went on to win academy awards or whatever they're fine i'm not defending

00:27:04.700 the blacklist i'm not for it but but all these this constellation of first amendment free speech

00:27:10.380 groups arose in the wake of the red scare and their job was to protect the principle of freedom of

00:27:16.820 speech and the first amendment as written and none of them defended you no i think that the american

00:27:22.800 people are seeing through the facade of mainstream media especially just what two weeks ago with the

00:27:28.140 bloodbath statement of trump and thanks to elon opening up x so people could see it unlike everything

00:27:33.280 has been stifled on all social media thanks to zuckerberg and those guys right so i think just that

00:27:38.040 one little one little tidbit where they saw how the media takes a sound bite out of context and then

00:27:43.500 the politicians take it and make ads and you had millions of people on x for days we can have to go

00:27:48.100 discussing how and these were lefties independents and righties everybody was discussing it i think

00:27:53.280 that and the spaces and things on x where he's opened it up to free speech that is the new town

00:27:58.180 square and i hope that and places like oan are going to save us because i think the people some

00:28:03.600 are waking up and finally seeing the truth it took a long damn time look at the border situation right

00:28:08.340 we've been reporting on the border i went down there the first week of march after biden took over

00:28:13.380 so six seven weeks six weeks into his regime i went to yuma arizona they were already seeing three

00:28:19.500 times the numbers from trump in six weeks and now we've seen 500 times the numbers but no one in the

00:28:25.760 country really knew about it because the cnn's the msnbc's the big old three abc nbc cbs they weren't going

00:28:31.000 down there they weren't going to del rio they weren't showing you what was happening we were again

00:28:35.820 misinformation disinformation and then what three or four months ago when the polls came out that the border

00:28:40.640 was tied with the economy all of a sudden the regime changed their narrative the media starts

00:28:44.740 covering it and now the american people are waking up but you gotta wonder though i mean and you're in

00:28:49.180 a good position to answer this because you've been in this business your whole life well those places

00:28:54.320 do seem like they're in their death throes like joe scarborough like if look at their numbers

00:29:00.060 their numbers that's what i'm saying so joe makes whatever 10 million or 12 million a year whatever joe

00:29:04.680 makes but if joe scarborough like walked into the nbc news hq tomorrow would he ever be able to sign a

00:29:11.260 contract like that like the business model no so the people currently on the air at those channels

00:29:16.260 are really on their last contracts because none of this can't it can't hope so nobody watches it right

00:29:22.300 yeah well i'm glad you brought up scarborough since he's gone so hard against trump the last couple of

00:29:27.120 weeks and i love the fact that you just interviewed uh cuomo so i'll bring cuomo up the other night he had

00:29:31.380 heraldo on and they were discussing the coverage of the bloodbath comment and other things and they

00:29:37.660 were talking about how these guys are hypocrites how mika and joe leading up to the 2016 election 1.00

00:29:43.060 had trump on like every other morning and they were kissing his ass and now fast forward a few years 1.00

00:29:47.680 and he's the devil he's the you know the phrase he's the threat to democracy we're a republic by the 1.00

00:29:52.700 way thanks idiots but every day threat to democracy and they call us that threat to democracy 1.00

00:29:56.760 what the hell does that mean free speech is a threat to democracy interesting if you wake up in a 1.00

00:30:01.100 country where all of a sudden you're getting a moral lecture from of all people joe scarborough

00:30:05.680 or joy reed moral left yeah but especially joe scarborough yeah well joy reed's just like an 1.00

00:30:10.120 idiot an angry idiot but and the most racist thank you the most racist host on it's unbelievable i 1.00

00:30:16.040 have to say it weekly but a moral lecture from joe scarborough is so it's hallucinogenic i can hardly 1.00

00:30:22.980 even believe this is happening do you know what i mean yeah exactly it's like getting a fitness

00:30:27.540 lecture from an obese person that's like i don't judge that you're fat in joe's case i don't judge

00:30:32.420 that you're evil like you've got to deal with god on that question that's not for me to judge but for

00:30:37.360 you to lecture me about morality there's so many there's so many skeletons in those main hosts and

00:30:45.340 talk show hosts i don't call them anchors anymore i love they still call themselves journalists that's

00:30:49.280 what really pisses me off too tucker when i got this job almost four years ago i made it apparent to

00:30:54.300 viewers this is an opinionated conservative talk show you're going to hear some facts that you're

00:30:59.020 going to hear my opinion but they never do that the other night when um msnbc was doing their victory

00:31:04.800 lap okay and we got rid of ron mcdaniel yay you had joy and rachel literally saying we journalists

00:31:10.860 stood strong and i'm so glad that the ceo at nbc changed his mind i'm like did you just call yourself

00:31:15.680 a journalist are you kidding me it's also that's the biggest line of you guys are propagandists

00:31:21.680 i mean i don't call myself a journalist any longer even though i did it for 30 some years

00:31:26.180 because now i throw my opinion in of course but i remind viewers of that because a lot of american

00:31:30.840 people are so busy they're so stressed out with the economy they're so worried about crime their

00:31:34.660 kids education going to a war that they don't have time to pay attention that everything in prime

00:31:39.280 time is not a newscast folks it's people's opinions those are talk shows oh i agree a lot

00:31:44.360 of american people don't get that but talk show yeah that's what i am but these guys lie to american

00:31:48.380 people every damn night no one's even listening well that's true their numbers are dwindling that's

00:31:52.740 the only hope i see and the next couple generations right the the zers and the millennials are all 1.00

00:31:56.680 online anyway nobody's watching traditional media they're streaming everything they're getting their

00:32:00.520 news on x of course instagram or tiktok so yeah this old school set in a corporate setting is done

00:32:08.720 what you're doing is where everything's going you have a studio you stream well it feels that way i mean

00:32:12.620 i'm only here by accident because i was totally out of options i worked for everybody i kept getting fired

00:32:17.660 but you're a hell of a happier too aren't you oh 100 percent no more leash of the corporate a-holes

00:32:21.440 no but i'm just saying i'm hardly at the you know leading edge of anything i i'm usually the last

00:32:26.920 person to see the leading edge it's already gone i'm like waving at it as it drives by

00:32:30.200 um so i just kind of wound up here but now that i am here it's very obvious that all the other i've

00:32:37.860 worked for every network that all of them you know it's just that things are changing really fast

00:32:42.920 yeah it does feel that way it does so um just bottom line first of all thank you for doing this

00:32:47.600 second what and finally what it like what's going to happen with oan do you think i think that we're

00:32:53.440 going to win i think we're going to survive i think that we're on the right side of history

00:32:58.300 i think that and i know the family and myself very religious we're putting it in god's hands

00:33:02.860 and i also know mr h mr herring the owner who is one hell of a fighter like me uh says we're not

00:33:08.340 backing down so i think we'll prevail i think we'll get through it and i think we'll only grow

00:33:14.020 while the old dinosaurs die that's what i hope happens i hope that i think it will just on just

00:33:19.440 like you're going to grow with this versus just doing the show with fox not that that was bad you

00:33:23.100 were averaging four million viewers but look at your videos now yeah i mean i just want to say what

00:33:28.140 i think they're even better that's it i just want to say what i think i'm on the jimmy cliff program

00:33:32.260 i'd rather be a free man in my grave you know nice um i agree amen dimble thank you for for

00:33:38.040 telling us no tucker thank you and i'm sorry it took me so long no that's okay i mean we appreciate

00:33:42.100 uh the support and just getting the word out about who and oh and is where we come from uh what we're

00:33:48.260 trying to accomplish with speaking truth to power and what's being done to us because as you've said

00:33:52.940 throughout this entire interview it is a direct assault on freedom of speech and freedom of the

00:33:57.540 press something you and i have dedicated our lives of course i just i mean i actually agree with what

00:34:01.940 you're saying but even if i disagreed with what you're saying i'd be every bit as outraged we just

00:34:05.640 interviewed a black nationalist communist um who who's facing life in prison for saying things the

00:34:12.980 biden administration didn't like and i i brought the same level of outrage to that because like

00:34:19.120 you can't tell people what they can say that's not allowed because you're not god and they're not slaves

00:34:23.000 simple that's what we were taught growing up here right let's see if we can continue that

00:34:26.440 thank you dan thank you tucker thanks for listening to tucker carlson podcast if you liked it be sure

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The Tucker Carlson Show - May 01, 2024

One America News host Dan Ball explains why Democrats in Congress are trying to shut his network down.

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