The Tucker Carlson Show - Patrick Feeney： Doomsday Prepping and What Rural Americans Really Think about Kamala Harris

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00:00:58.660 Who's the president right now?

00:00:59.820 Do you have any clue?

00:01:00.740 I don't know.

00:01:02.960 What do you got, brain damage?

00:01:04.360 Who's the president?

00:01:04.840 Simple question.

00:01:05.640 Like, when doctors are trying to assess whether you've had a stroke or not,

00:01:09.300 they say, who's the president?

00:01:11.360 You'd probably get the same answer out of anybody.

00:01:13.380 I know.

00:01:14.240 I think Obama's the president myself.

00:01:16.380 Yeah.

00:01:16.600 I really do.

00:01:17.640 He took quite a while to endorse the camel toe, didn't he?

00:01:21.120 Yeah, he did.

00:01:21.940 Yeah.

00:01:23.020 Yeah.

00:01:23.340 And I don't know.

00:01:24.500 I think Joe Biden put the fucks to him on that.

00:01:26.820 I didn't think they, I don't think they wanted her.

00:01:30.800 When you say, just for people who don't live in the, in the region, when you say put the

00:01:34.600 fucks to him, what does that mean?

00:01:35.960 He was like giving him the middle finger.

00:01:37.600 Oh, okay.

00:01:37.960 Like, yeah.

00:01:38.560 She is not qualified to do anything in my, I wouldn't hire her for a kindergarten art

00:01:44.800 teacher.

00:01:45.400 I wouldn't.

00:01:46.960 I don't think anyone would.

00:01:48.300 Yeah.

00:01:48.540 I mean, how did she, that's another thing.

00:01:50.140 I mean, I know how she got in because DEI or D-I-E or whatever you want to call it.

00:01:55.600 But yeah, we got to get rid of those laws.

00:01:58.900 Which laws?

00:01:59.940 The D, I don't know if they're laws.

00:02:01.740 Are any of these things laws that these people are doing?

00:02:03.780 Do you even know?

00:02:04.360 No, I don't think so.

00:02:05.280 I don't think they're laws.

00:02:06.080 I just think they've spoken assumptions.

00:02:09.620 I don't think you're getting a job at J.P. Morgan, if that's your question.

00:02:12.580 Right.

00:02:13.120 But I don't think that these things that people are doing are laws.

00:02:17.260 I don't think they have to hire somebody because they're of color, a woman, or there's

00:02:24.200 no law saying you have to have a, you have to have 39% of your employees have to be of

00:02:30.300 color.

00:02:30.780 There's no law, or is there?

00:02:32.340 I think the Justice Department will sue you if you don't.

00:02:35.160 Will they?

00:02:35.800 Yep.

00:02:36.080 Because too many white men is bad.

00:02:39.000 They might like write a constitution or build a functional country or something.

00:02:42.440 Yeah, there are laws on the books now that say you have to do that?

00:02:45.840 No, they're regulations.

00:02:47.560 Okay.

00:02:47.640 So they can sue you then?

00:02:48.940 Yep.

00:02:49.280 They would just sue you?

00:02:50.220 Yeah, because it's prima facie discrimination.

00:02:51.120 Like there's no black and white law saying you have to have so many people of certain

00:02:55.400 color or race or gender working for you, right?

00:02:59.600 I don't think passed by the Congress.

00:03:01.180 Right.

00:03:01.420 So if you had a company of 50...

00:03:02.540 Because that itself would violate civil rights law.

00:03:04.260 You can't discriminate on the basis of race, right?

00:03:06.320 That is a law in the United States.

00:03:07.640 So if I had an asphalt company and I had 50 employees, then, and I didn't hire somebody

00:03:16.260 because, so a guy fills out an application.

00:03:19.080 I don't hire him because he's got four OUIs and he doesn't have a dump truck license, but

00:03:25.040 he happens to be of color.

00:03:26.880 Can he sue the asphalt company and say, well, he didn't hire me.

00:03:29.640 Well, it happens all the time.

00:03:31.020 Right.

00:03:31.260 And do they win?

00:03:32.660 Absolutely.

00:03:33.180 They win.

00:03:33.640 Wow.

00:03:33.920 But there is no law saying...

00:03:35.940 I don't know about the dump truck license or the four OUIs, though I think probably,

00:03:39.960 yes, they'd win.

00:03:40.600 But certainly, it's very, very common for people who scored lower on the test that gauges whether

00:03:48.060 you can do the job or not.

00:03:49.120 Right, right.

00:03:50.740 Still suing?

00:03:51.540 Oh, absolutely.

00:03:52.500 And win.

00:03:52.920 Oh, absolutely.

00:03:53.640 So they don't go by the test?

00:03:55.300 No, they haven't tested.

00:03:56.280 They don't go by the...

00:03:56.840 Okay, we had a bunch of cones set up and we had two dump trucks and these guys did the

00:04:02.220 best on their test.

00:04:04.320 Yeah, but what color are they?

00:04:05.660 It matters more.

00:04:06.460 The cones?

00:04:07.180 Yeah, the cones.

00:04:07.820 The cones are orange.

00:04:08.860 I know that.

00:04:09.620 So you've been saying for a long time that things are going to fall apart.

00:04:16.920 You have been.

00:04:17.860 I can't wait.

00:04:18.640 Like for over a decade, you always say, it's coming and when it does, these people are

00:04:23.720 fucked.

00:04:24.300 Yeah, they are.

00:04:25.400 It does seem like a little less crazy prediction right now.

00:04:28.760 Right.

00:04:29.960 I mean, they are falling apart if you look at the talk about looting.

00:04:34.600 Yeah.

00:04:34.840 What happens is the biggest thing with losing the energy grid, all the millions of scenarios

00:04:40.220 that can happen.

00:04:40.880 It's already happening.

00:04:42.140 California.

00:04:43.080 Should I...

00:04:43.600 Well, California, exactly right.

00:04:44.880 Right.

00:04:44.980 So should I...

00:04:45.820 So what do you think about buying big plastic bins of freeze-dried food?

00:04:51.140 Yeah, you should have...

00:04:52.280 That's a short-term solution.

00:04:53.760 It's not going to get you through the Great Depression.

00:04:57.640 Yeah.

00:04:58.000 No, it's not.

00:05:00.860 It's not going to get you through post-Civil War down South living.

00:05:06.100 You know?

00:05:06.620 No.

00:05:07.360 It's going to get you through two weeks without power at most.

00:05:10.560 You know, maybe a year if you get a whole stockpile of it.

00:05:13.120 But no, you got to just have a mindset of can I live...

00:05:18.740 Am I going to be able to live like I have to live when that time comes?

00:05:24.720 You know, like to simplify your life.

00:05:26.740 Am I going to be...

00:05:27.540 You've got...

00:05:28.320 Say you've got a daughter that lives in New York City.

00:05:31.580 Okay, obviously she's not going to be able to live in New York City.

00:05:34.000 It's going to be burned down and looted, which it almost is now.

00:05:37.320 Yeah.

00:05:37.520 Yeah.

00:05:37.540 Okay, is she going to be ready to come to, you know, New Jersey or Maine or where...

00:05:44.640 New Jersey's probably still too close in that situation.

00:05:46.840 I don't know.

00:05:48.020 But Pennsylvania, Maine to live, you know, is she going to be able to say,

00:05:52.600 okay, this has happened with the Great...

00:05:54.800 We'll just use the Great Depression for a baseline.

00:05:57.360 Yeah.

00:05:57.520 Great Depression has happened.

00:05:58.920 Everybody's jumping out of the buildings in New York City.

00:06:01.640 All right, we're going to hang out in Maine for 20 years and get our life back together.

00:06:05.480 Yeah.

00:06:05.700 You know, is your family ready for that?

00:06:07.960 Are your close ones...

00:06:09.820 Are your...

00:06:10.460 Everybody you're close to ready for that?

00:06:12.960 No.

00:06:13.280 Whether they're trained or not, the training doesn't matter.

00:06:16.000 It's just in their mind, you've got to be ready for that stuff.

00:06:19.220 You've got to always have that, you know, live like you live.

00:06:21.260 I live very, very modern, do everything modern.

00:06:25.180 Everything I got is power, everything I got.

00:06:27.100 But in the back of my brain, I'm like, I might have to cut my firewood by hand

00:06:30.600 because I'm not going to be able to get any gas someday.

00:06:33.260 Well, the fact that you use firewood in the first place suggests you're not totally modern.

00:06:37.580 Right.

00:06:38.040 So you burn firewood?

00:06:39.260 Yeah, a lot.

00:06:40.240 Probably eight cords a year.

00:06:41.680 How much is eight cords?

00:06:44.060 A wheeler load, a truck load.

00:06:45.640 When you see the big truck going down the road, that's about eight cord.

00:06:48.300 I'm just saying this for...

00:06:49.580 Yeah.

00:06:50.020 I know how much that is.

00:06:50.900 So you burn it for heat?

00:06:52.340 Yep.

00:06:53.120 And my father burns wood.

00:06:54.860 I have an oil furnace back up.

00:06:58.720 I bought a hundred gallons of oil when I bought, when I moved into my house, which was 10 years ago.

00:07:06.480 Yeah.

00:07:06.880 And I still, I probably burned 10 of the hundred gallons.

00:07:10.640 So...

00:07:11.080 I just turn the furnace on every year to make sure it works.

00:07:13.000 That's about it.

00:07:13.380 So you burn your house on your farm.

00:07:17.660 It's not tiny, but it's not huge.

00:07:20.380 And you burn eight cords of wood.

00:07:23.380 What does it take to prepare that wood?

00:07:26.420 Uh, I get a, if I buy it tree length, which I have before, if I, so the truck comes, it drops it off tree length.

00:07:34.360 I would say with the machinery that I have, which is a hydraulic splitter and a dump trailer and a conveyor and a chainsaw and a tractor and all those stuff every farm has, I'd say a week.

00:07:47.100 A week.

00:07:48.040 If I, if I don't do it straight, I'd do a couple hours after supper type stuff.

00:07:52.160 But yeah, it would be a week.

00:07:53.660 If I took a week off, I could get my firewood done.

00:07:55.520 If two weeks I could do mine and my father's together, probably.

00:07:58.660 If I have to cut the tree down and drag it out of the woods, then it's probably two weeks.

00:08:02.960 So what is that just for people who don't cut their own firewood, eight cords of wood or with your, how many cords your dad?

00:08:08.600 About 35 trees is eight cords.

00:08:10.540 And how many cords does your dad burn?

00:08:12.220 Probably six, six to eight.

00:08:13.760 We'll just call it eight.

00:08:14.760 We each burn a load a year.

00:08:15.960 Okay.

00:08:16.200 So 16 cords of wood, what, let's say you have it dropped off in front of your house with a truck and it's just tree length, no branches, but tree length.

00:08:27.260 What do you have to do to get it ready?

00:08:29.060 Like what's the process?

00:08:29.380 You got to cut it to six, well, I cut mine two foot, 20 inches, but 16 inches, most people, depends on your stove.

00:08:37.640 You have to, so you, I pick it up with the tractor.

00:08:39.920 I cut it with a chainsaw.

00:08:41.180 I have a pretty good efficient system.

00:08:42.900 So you got to cut it to length.

00:08:46.160 You got to split it to size.

00:08:48.620 So it dries.

00:08:49.620 If it's small stuff, you don't have to split it.

00:08:51.400 Round wood is the best.

00:08:54.120 Unsplit wood, the more, every time you split it, they say you lose 10% of the efficiency out of it because you've made it smaller.

00:09:00.240 You know, a big chunk of wood burns really efficiently.

00:09:02.440 Yes.

00:09:02.880 So you always leave it big.

00:09:04.640 And I always split it as I need it.

00:09:06.420 You know, I'll break it down to where I can handle it, but I don't break it down really small to start with.

00:09:14.300 And then in the, when you're in the cellar, then you can, okay, I need some small stuff.

00:09:18.860 You just split up what you need.

00:09:19.940 Then you don't have a whole pile of small stuff that burns real fast.

00:09:23.080 And then you got to stack it and dry it.

00:09:24.940 That's the time consuming thing.

00:09:27.120 You can't burn it green.

00:09:27.960 It takes about a year to dry wood.

00:09:30.140 Really?

00:09:30.740 Yeah.

00:09:31.220 So you have, I guess, 32 cords of wood sitting out.

00:09:35.660 Yep, I do.

00:09:36.200 I got mine.

00:09:37.680 I got next year's is all done.

00:09:40.260 My father is, we're working on his, he's got next year's all, we had his next year all done this winter.

00:09:46.900 And I'm doing his year after that right now.

00:09:51.680 And then this winter I'll do mine next year's.

00:09:53.540 I can actually dry it.

00:09:54.780 If I had it done in the winter, it will be ready in the fall.

00:09:57.040 So when I say a year, it's like a season.

00:10:00.120 Dries pretty fast at my house and I stack it.

00:10:02.080 So it dries.

00:10:03.300 So that's with machines.

00:10:04.260 So the.

00:10:05.320 Well, if you were doing it by hand, I can't imagine.

00:10:07.440 Like I see the, you see the pictures of the old timers out there with the crosscut saw in the mall.

00:10:11.440 And they were probably, those old farmhouses I've heard, 10, 12 cords in winter.

00:10:15.800 Can you imagine doing that all by hand?

00:10:16.920 Because they were heating with fireplaces.

00:10:18.820 I mean, before woods.

00:10:20.140 No, really.

00:10:20.720 An open pit.

00:10:21.380 Can you imagine cutting that all by hand?

00:10:25.440 So how would you cut 10 cords with no gasoline or diesel?

00:10:28.680 You'd have to get a sharp saw and just go to it the old way.

00:10:31.420 You know, you'd have to have more kids.

00:10:35.240 That is kind of the answer.

00:10:37.980 Start breathing.

00:10:38.620 So could you, I mean, how long do you think that would take you?

00:10:42.480 Oh, that would take, that would just be an, I think it would just be an ongoing thing.

00:10:46.300 I think like every day after supper, you would just go out for an hour and, and cut, you know,

00:10:52.860 maybe a day's worth of wood, not over, you wouldn't want to overwhelm yourself.

00:10:56.360 So, you know, can you, you know, just every, that's, if you don't have machinery, that's

00:11:01.700 kind of how you do every kind of gardening chore or firewood chore.

00:11:05.920 You just kind of try not to overwhelm yourself and make it a chore.

00:11:09.960 So of all the things, just think of if you're driving home and you see a tree on the side

00:11:13.720 of the road that, you know, is free for the taking, it fell down or whatever, and you

00:11:19.220 just stopped and grabbed it.

00:11:20.260 If you did that every day on your, in your travels, you'd probably have enough firewood.

00:11:24.180 If you just stopped and saw every tree on the side of the road and cut it up, threw

00:11:27.960 it in the back of your truck.

00:11:29.220 And that's what we used to do in the old days.

00:11:30.840 If we, we didn't drive by a tree, you know, we would stop and cut it up and throw it in

00:11:35.360 the truck.

00:11:36.000 Did you get paid by the town for cleaning up the roads?

00:11:38.580 No.

00:11:40.640 So of all the things that worry you, power grid going down is probably going to be at

00:11:44.240 the bottom, right?

00:11:45.080 Yeah.

00:11:45.300 No, not big.

00:11:46.120 Other than food storage, my freezer.

00:11:50.380 Other, I don't know if the, you know, I think things would have to really get bad to not

00:11:55.460 be able to get any gas, gasoline and diesel at the stores.

00:11:59.140 I don't know.

00:12:00.360 You know, it depends on how, how bad things got.

00:12:03.200 If it was like a war situation, it would be bad.

00:12:05.660 I mean.

00:12:06.180 If the refinery shut down.

00:12:07.100 Yeah.

00:12:07.200 If the refinery shut down and how much, you know, you're not going to waste that gas mowing

00:12:15.800 your lawn when you need to run a generator, you know, for your food, you're going to probably,

00:12:21.400 you're not going to drive on excess, you're not going to just drive for the sake of driving

00:12:25.180 somewhere.

00:12:25.560 If you've got to have that gas to live off, I don't know, I don't know how bad it's going

00:12:28.840 to get, but you can store food without power.

00:12:31.020 You can can the meat like they did.

00:12:33.520 You can butcher, you know, get all your neighbors together.

00:12:37.640 Okay.

00:12:37.840 We're going to butcher a cow today.

00:12:40.060 Yeah.

00:12:40.580 You know, so you cut it up accordingly.

00:12:42.420 So that's how they did it in the old days before refrigeration, the butcher, butchered

00:12:46.440 things accordingly.

00:12:47.140 So the meat would get used up fast enough.

00:12:50.200 So.

00:12:50.880 And small animals, small animals were developed in the olden days, we'll call them for a lot

00:12:58.240 of times for refrigeration purposes.

00:13:00.500 If you're one family out in the middle of the, you know, plains living, you're not going

00:13:05.600 to butcher a cow in the middle of July.

00:13:07.520 Right.

00:13:08.180 You know, you're going to butcher a sheep that you can eat.

00:13:11.240 Exactly.

00:13:11.600 Fast enough before it spoils.

00:13:12.540 Before it spoils.

00:13:13.540 Or you're going to can it or, but canned meat's not my favorite thing.

00:13:17.620 Yeah.

00:13:17.820 You get botulism.

00:13:19.720 Which we now think of as like the core ingredient in Botox, but it's also.

00:13:23.320 I think people's, they're just, I wouldn't say prepping would be a more of a, just a way

00:13:31.740 to start thinking about things.

00:13:33.680 Like is your, you know, like I said, is your family ready?

00:13:36.600 I mean, it's, it's hard to imagine it if you've been a beneficiary of a hundred years of modernity

00:13:44.480 and ease and wealth.

00:13:46.100 We've all had an easy life.

00:13:47.140 That's exactly right.

00:13:48.060 I've had a super easy life as far as that kind of stuff goes.

00:13:50.700 I mean, we all work hard and do things, but.

00:13:52.300 But so what do you store now?

00:13:56.240 And I should say for the, I didn't even interview you.

00:13:58.180 This is Patrick Feeney.

00:13:59.520 Lives in Maine, has had every kind of job imaginable and lives basically, from my perspective,

00:14:06.240 you live pretty close to off-grid.

00:14:07.480 Like you produce most of your food at home, on your farm, animals, you've got a pretty

00:14:13.000 amazing, a grow operation, you know, for how many different fruits, how many different

00:14:18.640 vegetables do you grow?

00:14:19.460 Oh, I don't know.

00:14:20.280 That's, I'm more of a McDonald's french fry type of guy, but.

00:14:25.300 Your wife.

00:14:26.240 My wife grows, yeah, everything you can imagine.

00:14:31.260 Lettuce, beets.

00:14:32.240 I like corn on the cob.

00:14:33.800 Yeah.

00:14:33.920 I like all the potatoes.

00:14:35.340 I love potatoes.

00:14:35.920 Yeah, any vegetable you can think of, salad greens, carrots, greenhouse.

00:14:41.860 But more than enough to live forever.

00:14:44.000 Oh yeah, she feeds, I mean, she supplies food to three restaurants in town and sells to 20

00:14:50.540 different people.

00:14:51.380 So she supplies plenty.

00:14:52.520 So you're good to go with food.

00:14:53.740 Oh yeah, we're good to, and I would say storage would not be a, I would say food's almost,

00:14:59.360 storage is, you've got to think that short term with any food.

00:15:03.100 And, you know, you get your long-term storage, the buckets that you buy.

00:15:07.000 Yeah, that's, well, I don't know.

00:15:09.420 Are those really going to be good in a hundred years?

00:15:11.740 You wonder.

00:15:12.660 You know, have you ever eaten a 30-year-old MRE?

00:15:14.980 No.

00:15:15.400 I have.

00:15:15.800 It's not.

00:15:17.140 Why are you eating a 30-year-old MRE?

00:15:18.680 Just to try it.

00:15:19.200 I found one a couple of years ago that I had left over from the army.

00:15:22.760 It wasn't that good.

00:15:23.700 It wasn't that good.

00:15:24.300 I never really liked them in the army, and I really don't like them now, 30 years from

00:15:28.260 now, the same one.

00:15:29.780 So what do you stockpile?

00:15:32.760 Meat in the freezer.

00:15:34.460 Now that's a catch, that could bite me in the ass because of the electrical grid.

00:15:38.680 Yeah.

00:15:38.960 You know, a freezer doesn't use much juice, so you could have your little thousand-watt

00:15:42.720 Honda generator, fire it up for an hour a day, plug your freezer in, get it cold.

00:15:49.000 You know, you could do that for a while.

00:15:50.680 What kind of meat do you store?

00:15:51.680 I have mostly deer and moose, and if we have, we haven't had, we got a pig, we got

00:15:56.920 two pigs we just bought today.

00:15:59.400 They're going to raise them, but boy, they look awful tasty, that size right there.

00:16:03.380 I might just have a little pig party.

00:16:06.900 Well, you texted me a picture and said they were so cute.

00:16:08.840 You already think about eating them?

00:16:09.740 Yeah, oh yeah, they look, they look, ooh, they're very tasty.

00:16:12.440 Pig roast is very, very fun.

00:16:14.740 No, I just, what a moose deer, like I shot, I think I shot two deer, three deer last year.

00:16:19.880 So that takes up some, not a lot of meat on a deer, you know, you really have to shoot

00:16:24.400 a couple every year to make a difference, let you get a really big one.

00:16:28.200 Moose, a lot of, you know, might get the moose last year, so that was, we still got

00:16:32.200 the moose meat.

00:16:33.720 What do you think of it?

00:16:34.820 I love moose meat.

00:16:35.640 That was a good moose.

00:16:36.440 I've had good moose, I've had bad moose.

00:16:37.980 That was a good one.

00:16:38.520 What's the difference?

00:16:39.660 Just the gaminess and the, you got, you got to, when you kill something, you really got

00:16:44.620 to get it, moose season can be warm, it was warm that day, wasn't too bad, but it was

00:16:50.380 probably 60 degrees, you got to hustle, get it on ice, you know, we drugged it right on

00:16:55.760 the trailer and got it right to the butcher shop, right to the guy's house with the freezer,

00:17:01.280 hung it in the freezer and put it on ice when we were driving, you know, the whole process

00:17:05.660 was fast and that makes a huge difference with game.

00:17:08.140 Did you, but you dressed it in the field?

00:17:09.760 Dressed it in the field.

00:17:10.480 Well, we shot it like 8.30 and we were back at my parents' house by 11.

00:17:20.420 After we tagged it, shot it, dragged it out, tagged it.

00:17:25.180 My parents' house at 11, Mike and I took off in New Hampshire to our friend Doug with the

00:17:31.500 cooler and he's got a meat cutting business.

00:17:34.520 So we get, we were at his house by like probably three in the afternoon.

00:17:37.800 How much of the dressing did you use a chainsaw for?

00:17:43.080 I didn't have to, we were close to the truck, we then drove the four-wheeler right to the

00:17:48.540 moose, so we didn't have to cut the legs off or any of that stuff.

00:17:50.800 Yeah.

00:17:51.220 Just cut up the middle.

00:17:52.980 I used a saw for the, I used a sawzall actually, works good too.

00:17:56.540 Cut the chest open with a sawzall.

00:17:59.480 How much meat do you get out of that moose?

00:18:01.880 You got 400 pounds of meat, I think, I believe, out of a 600, I think a 700 pound moose.

00:18:10.360 So it was a big moose.

00:18:11.860 Yeah.

00:18:12.360 Deer are about, 200 pound deer will get you, in Maine we have 200 pound deer.

00:18:18.200 So I'll say 150 pound deer would be average, would be 50 pounds of meat out of 150 pound deer.

00:18:26.240 I'm just saying that, you know, maybe, maybe 75 pounds, you know, but a lot of bone, you

00:18:32.160 know, like a cow, all bone and fur, you know, and head.

00:18:37.000 So you got meat in your cooler, do you have any bear in your cooler?

00:18:42.520 Not right now.

00:18:44.160 I'm not a huge fan of bear meat.

00:18:45.740 I did shoot one a couple of years ago, a nice small one, and that was very good eating.

00:18:49.240 That was another, I shot that with snow on the ground, so I cooled it off fast.

00:18:53.220 Bear meat spoils fast.

00:18:54.320 They shoot bear in like, what, August?

00:18:56.340 Yeah.

00:18:56.740 You see, yeah.

00:18:57.260 Because it's so greasy.

00:18:58.620 Yeah, it is very, like, when you shoot something in August, you got to be fast.

00:19:02.420 I don't like watching the hunting shows where they go get the deer the next morning.

00:19:07.200 You know, you shoot the deer, and they're in like Texas, or I don't hunt in those places,

00:19:11.120 but they're in like Texas and they shoot the deer.

00:19:13.020 Oh, we'll go look for it in the morning.

00:19:15.060 What happens if you leave?

00:19:16.340 You see the, if you watch the camera footage enough, the coyotes have chewed the ass off the

00:19:20.680 deer already, you know?

00:19:21.700 And it can't be any good.

00:19:24.120 I've shot deer in like cold weather and found them the next day, and they're already starting

00:19:28.060 to stink, you know?

00:19:29.380 Do you eat it anyway?

00:19:30.480 Yeah.

00:19:30.760 I mean, there's parts of it that are still good, but anything next to the belly, and

00:19:34.540 if it ran away, it was probably gut shot anyway, or not a good shot.

00:19:37.600 Right.

00:19:38.400 So, it's all full of bile and stuff.

00:19:40.420 You want to have a nice clean shot if you can.

00:19:42.540 I think you owe it to any animal you, you know, you try your best.

00:19:46.560 Of course you do.

00:19:46.880 Things happen.

00:19:47.640 Of course you do.

00:19:48.520 You know, but you don't want to just start wailing away at something, thinking you're

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00:19:54.380 I gut shot a hog.

00:19:55.140 It was the last time I went hog hunting.

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00:19:57.380 Yeah.

00:19:57.680 I mean, you didn't do purposely do it.

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00:19:59.840 Of course not.

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00:27:37.300 So how do you prepare bear meat?

00:27:39.640 Bear meat, I just cook that like steak.

00:27:41.700 I cut those up into steaks.

00:27:43.520 I'm kind of a throw-it-in-the-fry-pan type of cooker.

00:27:46.660 I'm not much on recipes.

00:27:48.300 Yeah.

00:27:48.640 I just like my, I like a little spices on my meat, cook it on the grill.

00:27:52.340 I like a roast.

00:27:53.460 I love a crockpot stew.

00:27:56.520 You can take bad cuts of meat and throw it in the crockpot, and it will.

00:27:59.640 You can put anything in the crockpot.

00:28:00.620 Yeah, you can put anything in the crockpot, and it tastes good.

00:28:03.380 So those are very basic.

00:28:04.780 But the idea that if you have a 308, you know, you've got enough nutrition, could you hunt your way out of famine?

00:28:14.440 I've heard that the old wood logger guys in the logging camps in Maine, would it be scurvy you would get without enough?

00:28:23.200 Yeah.

00:28:23.420 They ate all deer and moose meat, and they were getting sick, lack of vitamin C.

00:28:29.580 But are there enough mammals in the woods to support?

00:28:32.820 Right now, I think that the end of the, and I believe, I forget who was talking about this.

00:28:39.380 Might have been on one of your shows, but okay, it might have been Ted Nugent.

00:28:42.760 But okay, when the shit hits the fan, how long is it going to be?

00:28:49.100 There's not, you know, in areas like, we're pretty rural here, but we're not that rural.

00:28:53.200 You can drive, you know, there's a road everywhere.

00:28:55.540 We're not like northern Maine.

00:28:57.420 There's not going to be any deer really fast.

00:28:59.760 Yeah.

00:29:00.120 You know, the woods around here aren't that big.

00:29:02.080 In this particular area, these deer are going to be gone fast.

00:29:06.620 You know, the mountains are, it's mountainous, and it's a five-mile hike to the next road, but five miles isn't that far.

00:29:12.320 Yeah.

00:29:12.580 And yeah, no, the game is going to go fast.

00:29:15.960 It's going to be, during the Depression, the game went fast.

00:29:19.820 Early night, in the, you know.

00:29:22.220 In the 30s, I mean.

00:29:23.320 My father said when he was a kid, and that would have been the 50s, if somebody saw a deer where he grew up in southern Maine, it was in the paper.

00:29:30.840 I mean, you know, it was just, if one popped out, it got shot.

00:29:35.720 Yeah.

00:29:36.020 And I think that's going to happen if things get bad.

00:29:39.420 There's enough people that know you're going to, you're not going to, self-preservation, no matter how messed up your life is or what's going on, if you're starving to death, and a dog steps out in front of you, as much as you might life dogs, if your family's dying, guess what?

00:29:54.140 Yeah.

00:29:54.780 Dogs do.

00:29:55.560 Yeah.

00:29:56.140 I mean, I wouldn't do it.

00:29:57.700 Yeah.

00:29:58.120 No way I would do it.

00:29:58.980 I would probably die before I ate a dog, but.

00:30:00.980 I would too.

00:30:01.780 But in a famine, the neighbor's kids aren't safe.

00:30:03.840 Right.

00:30:04.000 I mean, people get really.

00:30:05.360 That's the problem.

00:30:06.100 I think that's something more to think about.

00:30:08.140 Is it ever going to get that bad?

00:30:09.720 I would like to think not.

00:30:12.320 I like to think that people aren't like that.

00:30:15.260 I don't know.

00:30:16.820 I mean, you travel more than I do and witness how cultures act.

00:30:20.700 I don't think there's too many cultures that are like that now worldwide where they're just knocking people down and taking over.

00:30:29.100 You know what I mean?

00:30:30.920 Well, certainly the culture you grew up in is not like that at all.

00:30:33.160 No.

00:30:33.440 I don't know if there are places in the world where it's that bad.

00:30:36.320 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:36.680 I mean, maybe the Middle East and that type of.

00:30:38.600 Africa.

00:30:39.400 Africa, yeah.

00:30:40.500 So, I mean, you think it's, I mean, I can't imagine it would ever get that way here.

00:30:44.980 I like to think people are nice enough that, you know, your brother's not going to bash me over the head because I got potatoes and he doesn't.

00:30:53.320 Yeah.

00:30:53.940 He's a tricky one, though, be careful.

00:30:57.860 So, you're looking at him often.

00:31:00.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:01.880 He might, if I had five gallons of gas, he might back.

00:31:04.540 He might.

00:31:05.400 So, do you stockpile gas?

00:31:07.180 It's hard to.

00:31:08.080 I mean, I use so much of it.

00:31:09.980 Yeah.

00:31:10.260 I filled up cans the other day.

00:31:12.000 I filled up my cans.

00:31:12.940 I filled up your cans.

00:31:14.400 And, man, that doesn't last long.

00:31:17.360 So, could you stockpile gas?

00:31:19.380 I think it would evaporate.

00:31:20.900 Yeah.

00:31:21.140 You know, you could do underground tank would be the best.

00:31:23.500 You got to keep the ethanol.

00:31:25.000 You got to buy, you'd have to buy non-ethanol gas.

00:31:27.080 There's stuff you can add to the gas to keep it from spoiling.

00:31:29.600 Diesel fuel spoils.

00:31:30.600 It gets mold in it.

00:31:32.080 Yeah.

00:31:32.620 Yeah, I don't know.

00:31:33.500 You'd have to.

00:31:34.580 Yeah, you could probably do it for a couple of years, like maybe five years.

00:31:37.940 But why wouldn't you want ethanol in your gas when it helps the environment?

00:31:42.540 Don't get going on that.

00:31:44.520 You don't get going on ethanol.

00:31:46.260 Yeah.

00:31:47.040 The number of lectures we've had about ethanol from you is like, so you're not, just to be clear, you're not for ethanol.

00:31:52.800 You know, you take a look at a gummed up carburetor from ethanol gas and it's not.

00:31:57.400 The new motors are fine if it's fuel injected and you use it every day, it's not going to hurt anything.

00:32:02.900 But yeah, anytime you store anything for a long, ethanol attracts moisture.

00:32:06.060 You know, it's what you mix with water so it will burn, but it attracts water also.

00:32:13.700 Well, like in your boat, your boat's sitting right there.

00:32:15.460 All the water molecules that jump off the water go into the gas.

00:32:18.600 Yeah, I've noticed.

00:32:19.780 Yeah.

00:32:20.620 It'll wreck your motor.

00:32:22.040 And it will happen to diesel fuel just like gas.

00:32:24.140 Diesel fuel will soak up water just the way it is.

00:32:27.520 It's natural.

00:32:28.800 It's going to soak up water anyway.

00:32:31.180 So what would you, before we get to what the mindset is, what would you stockpile?

00:32:38.660 Or what do you stockpile?

00:32:40.580 I would ammo.

00:32:42.040 Ammo's good.

00:32:42.820 I think ammo's going to be a, if it becomes like we just talked about where, you know, we're only eight hours from New York City by car here.

00:32:51.960 It was very, you know, they can, those people that get displaced in New York could easily end up here.

00:32:57.920 We're not remote where, I don't know what you would call this area, suburban, I guess.

00:33:03.800 Suburban.

00:33:04.500 Suburbia.

00:33:05.460 Maybe a little more remote than suburbia.

00:33:07.400 Maybe, yeah.

00:33:08.120 But it's not super remote.

00:33:09.620 Right.

00:33:09.960 You know, it's not like.

00:33:10.780 It's not a map.

00:33:11.340 It's not like Dacquam, Maine.

00:33:12.680 Right.

00:33:13.060 You know, or anything like that.

00:33:14.680 You know, so I think those people are going to come here or any, you know, just use New York City for a center point.

00:33:21.740 Go out 500 mile radius from New York City.

00:33:24.740 That's Ohio, Pennsylvania.

00:33:26.880 Right.

00:33:27.340 That's where they're going to go.

00:33:28.400 Probably, they're probably going to go that way before they come to Maine.

00:33:31.200 I would think so.

00:33:32.020 Or upstate New York, just because it's right there.

00:33:35.320 Yeah.

00:33:35.720 But that's cold up there.

00:33:37.400 You know, if you, if you really had to survive to live off the land and it got that bad, you'd probably move out of Maine and go somewhere else.

00:33:47.040 Because the weather's just so bad.

00:33:48.180 Just fertile.

00:33:48.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:49.300 You know, in the food, you know, in that.

00:33:51.140 You wouldn't.

00:33:51.420 Although we do pretty good farming in Maine, though.

00:33:53.900 In the river valleys.

00:33:54.980 Yeah, I know.

00:33:55.320 We do good right in this area.

00:33:56.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:57.000 Well, there's a big river here.

00:33:58.380 So that's.

00:33:58.960 So it's.

00:33:59.540 But I don't think there's going to be any lumber industry.

00:34:02.560 You know, if things get bad, there's not going to be any fuel to make lumber with.

00:34:07.180 Right.

00:34:07.720 You know, you're going to be making earth houses, sod houses.

00:34:09.900 You're going to be making log cabins again.

00:34:12.160 And I don't, can't fathom it ever getting that bad, but.

00:34:18.060 So you stockpile ammo.

00:34:20.080 Yeah.

00:34:21.040 That would.

00:34:21.680 And how to make ammo.

00:34:22.920 You should be able to reload component.

00:34:24.940 Primers are tough.

00:34:25.660 You couldn't get primers for a long time.

00:34:27.700 What calibers do you reload?

00:34:30.200 All the expensive ones that are expensive to buy, like 38 special, 357.

00:34:35.620 4570.

00:34:36.800 4570.

00:34:37.440 Definitely.

00:34:38.160 Yeah.

00:34:38.300 I like 6.5 Creed more.

00:34:41.540 It's kind of a new caliber.

00:34:42.720 It's a nice soft shooting.

00:34:44.960 Versatile 308's the Swiss Army knife of all.

00:34:49.780 And 30-06.

00:34:51.080 30-08, 30-06.

00:34:52.720 Any of those.

00:34:53.440 The 30-30.

00:34:53.740 30-30 is good.

00:34:55.040 Yep.

00:34:55.520 You know.

00:34:56.380 Stay away from oddball calibers that are going to be hard to get.

00:34:59.780 Like what?

00:35:01.440 Oh, I don't know.

00:35:02.520 All these new ones that come out.

00:35:04.000 6.8 PRC and all.

00:35:06.720 You know.

00:35:07.020 Unless you reload.

00:35:09.300 I mean, how much ammo are you going to need to feed your family?

00:35:13.000 You're not going to, you know.

00:35:13.960 If you've got 10 boxes of shells for your 30-06, you're going to feed the family for the rest of your existence.

00:35:19.800 But it sounds like I asked you why you stockpile ammo and you didn't.

00:35:23.220 You mentioned the exodus from New York City.

00:35:25.620 Right.

00:35:26.000 Yeah.

00:35:26.360 I think that that's not that I would be able to stop.

00:35:28.860 I mean, I'm 52 years old and pretty good working physical shape, but I'm certainly not an athlete by any means.

00:35:36.240 I think 10 good strong guys from New York City could probably overtake me with all the ammo that I have.

00:35:41.340 You think so?

00:35:41.800 Yeah, I think they, I might stop a couple of them, you know what I mean?

00:35:45.800 But I'm not that physically, I'm not a combat-oriented type person.

00:35:50.640 Yeah.

00:35:50.920 And I think they could definitely overtake a farm with numbers.

00:35:55.060 Like a farm like, say there was 10 people on my farm.

00:35:57.680 Yeah.

00:35:57.840 They might stay away if there was 10 people on my farm.

00:36:00.740 There's only me and my wife and my parents.

00:36:03.920 Yeah, no, 10 people could, if it was just me, I think they probably could.

00:36:09.640 Being realistic, we all like to think we're a badass, but, you know.

00:36:14.820 And if they had guns, then they could really overtake you easy.

00:36:18.760 Yeah, for sure.

00:36:19.880 You know, because one guy with a gun is not going to be, you know, it's not like the movies.

00:36:24.120 You're not going to take out 10 guys with guns.

00:36:26.240 No, you're probably not.

00:36:27.200 No, especially if you've got like a 9mm pistol.

00:36:31.120 Oh, you're not?

00:36:31.600 You're not going to take out.

00:36:33.380 Well, everyone, you don't believe in 9mm pistols?

00:36:35.760 They're good for, they're good for me to, you know, anybody in this room.

00:36:40.780 But, you know, you're not going to take somebody across the field with it.

00:36:44.440 You know, .308's good.

00:36:46.220 So if you have to have one gun, what is it?

00:36:47.900 I'd have a rifle, .308 rifle.

00:36:50.840 I'd have a, maybe a handgun for close combat, but I wouldn't, I'd like to.

00:36:54.860 I'd have a military take out the enemy before they get that close, you know, which is, you would have to.

00:37:02.840 If you let 10, if you let 10 people assaulting you get close enough within handgun range, you're probably not going to get all 10 of them.

00:37:10.800 No, you're done.

00:37:11.600 You're done.

00:37:12.460 So you've got to get them while they're out of, and I'm not any kind of expert in this field at all, just from watching movies and stuff.

00:37:19.960 You watch the guy in the movie that takes out all, no, that's not realistic.

00:37:23.920 You know, no, you've got to get those people before they, you know, at a hundred yards out.

00:37:27.960 A hundred yards is a long ways, you know.

00:37:30.940 By the way, just parenthetically, the assassination attempt on Trump, 20-year-old kid, no training, formal training at all with firearms.

00:37:42.940 He's on the roof with a .223.

00:37:44.980 Yeah.

00:37:45.620 And a cop comes up behind him.

00:37:48.000 They have some kind of altercation.

00:37:49.180 The cop backs off.

00:37:50.120 The kid turns with iron sights and makes 140-yard shot and grazes Trump's ear.

00:37:54.840 Right.

00:37:55.240 How would you assess that?

00:37:56.660 Oh, that's a long shot with open sight.

00:37:58.500 That's what I'm saying.

00:37:59.340 That's what I thought.

00:38:00.260 Oh, I could have done that with my 30-30.

00:38:01.720 All these Navy SEALs on TV.

00:38:03.140 I mean, a .30-30, which is a lot less accurate than a .223, I mean, a nine-inch plate, a gong at a hundred yards is that big.

00:38:13.440 Yeah.

00:38:13.700 If you can hit the gong open sights and make it ding, you're pretty proud of yourself at a hundred yards.

00:38:19.560 I can hit a deer at a hundred yards, but a deer is bigger than Trump's head.

00:38:22.520 Yeah.

00:38:23.000 You know, and you hit the, you aim for the deers.

00:38:25.740 I shot a deer last year really close with a .30-30.

00:38:28.160 I aimed right where I was supposed to aim and I hit him way in the back, broke his, killed him dead.

00:38:32.620 But I was, you know, a foot and a half off from where I was aiming.

00:38:35.880 Right.

00:38:36.500 You know, so a deer's a big target.

00:38:38.260 So if you're lying on the roof of a building and all of a sudden a cop comes up, an armed police officer comes up and you somehow force him back, your adrenaline is pumping like never before in your life.

00:38:50.120 And then you turn and reset the shot at 140 yards with iron sights and you hit the man in the ear.

00:38:55.320 That's pretty good.

00:38:56.540 That's ridiculous, right?

00:38:57.780 Yeah, no, that's, if he had a scope, then that he would be, that would be, he probably, if he, that guy had a scope, Trump would be dead right now.

00:39:05.580 If the scope was sighted in.

00:39:07.420 If it was sighted in, but also, I mean.

00:39:09.600 130 yards is, you know, they got the, all these guys will come on TV.

00:39:13.140 Oh, that's an easy shot.

00:39:14.680 Oh, it is.

00:39:15.140 That's a bootcamp shot.

00:39:16.340 Yeah.

00:39:16.520 Really okay, but.

00:39:17.500 It is, but.

00:39:18.400 The kid never was in bootcamp, so.

00:39:19.900 Right, yeah, for the, when you deer hunt, you never, well in Maine, we don't shoot anything over a hundred yards.

00:39:24.840 There is no hundred yards in Maine.

00:39:26.400 Yeah, there is a logging road or something.

00:39:27.980 You get to, we make a Hail Mary shot once in a while when you see a deer a long ways away.

00:39:32.540 I shot a deer, I had a deer once that was 250 yards away.

00:39:35.360 I hit it and wounded it, so I felt bad.

00:39:36.940 I'm like, I'm not going to do that again.

00:39:38.400 That's.

00:39:39.220 Did you find him?

00:39:40.380 No, I never did.

00:39:41.100 Get a little bit of blood.

00:39:42.360 Actually, there was quite a bit of blood at first and it, blood dried up really fast and I tracked it and I found its bit.

00:39:49.260 It was a snow.

00:39:49.820 I went out 10 o'clock at night to find it and it went down a big gully, up another big gully, down another, down and up, going right straight uphill.

00:39:59.340 And I found a bed, it was bedded in in the snow and there was a little spot of blood about the size of a quarter.

00:40:05.660 So, I think he was probably okay.

00:40:07.660 I think I grazed him.

00:40:08.820 Yep.

00:40:09.200 Like Trump, got a lot of blood when Trump got hit.

00:40:11.400 There was quite a bit of blood.

00:40:12.380 You know, he got grazed.

00:40:13.820 So, you think good.

00:40:14.800 Well, I'm glad to hear you say that.

00:40:15.960 I mean, all these experts on TV.

00:40:17.500 Yeah, I mean, I can easily, I can shoot some, I couldn't shoot, I'd shoot a deer at 250 yards with my, with my.

00:40:26.640 6.5 Creedmoor.

00:40:27.160 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 306.

00:40:29.500 I could, I could easily sight it.

00:40:30.980 I don't sight my guns in for that range because I don't hunt that range.

00:40:34.260 So, they're sighted in for 100 yards.

00:40:36.100 Now, whatever the, I'll just make these numbers up, but a 308 at between 100 and, say, 300 yards, it's, I don't know, like 18 inches or something like that.

00:40:46.960 It's quite a drop.

00:40:48.020 So, you really want to, unless you've got the scope with the little slash marks in it for different ranges.

00:40:52.760 If you're into that stuff, that's fine.

00:40:54.180 I'm sure you can do those shots, but most hunters don't do those shots.

00:40:58.640 It takes a little bit of the sporting aspect out of hunting.

00:41:01.200 For me, it does.

00:41:02.440 But I, then again, there's a sporting aspect of, holy smokes, I'm a really good shot and I shot a deer at 600 yards.

00:41:08.400 Right.

00:41:08.740 So, that's, that's the sporting aspect of that.

00:41:12.320 You know what I mean?

00:41:13.100 You can be a sport by sneaking up to within 50 yards of the animal.

00:41:17.100 You can be a sport by being a really good shot and shooting it.

00:41:19.700 So, that's not, that's just a personal preference.

00:41:21.540 Is 223 flat out to 140?

00:41:23.960 Yeah, pretty flat.

00:41:24.980 Yeah.

00:41:25.560 Okay.

00:41:25.840 Pretty flat shot.

00:41:27.200 It's a light bullet.

00:41:29.100 You know, it does a lot of damage.

00:41:30.400 Oh, I know it does.

00:41:31.040 You know, it's a zinger bullet.

00:41:32.420 Ask anybody that's in the military, they'll tell you that they do a lot of damage.

00:41:36.020 Yeah.

00:41:36.820 You know, they claim, like a, it's a, it's a solid, I don't know what he had for bullets.

00:41:43.220 They call the, they call the, they call the, whenever there's a mass shooting, they say he had special bullets, exploding bullets.

00:41:53.640 All it is, is he had like soft point bullets that you would use for deer hunting.

00:41:56.960 Yeah.

00:41:57.400 Which, you know, in a civilian situation, it does more damage to the deer because it mushrooms when it goes in and it tears apart more tissue.

00:42:05.580 But it doesn't penetrate.

00:42:07.260 Like a ball ammo penetrates a lot better.

00:42:09.800 It'll go through a shirt or a leather jacket a lot, a lot better.

00:42:12.460 And they claim on the ball ammo, like a .223, when it goes in there, it's going so fast, it turns sideways.

00:42:17.600 Right.

00:42:17.900 It tumbles.

00:42:18.360 I wouldn't want to get hit with any bullet.

00:42:19.740 I don't.

00:42:20.040 I agree with that.

00:42:20.460 You know, people spend too much time on the, what kind of bullet to use and just make sure you're using the bullet that hits where you're aiming.

00:42:29.340 Is that the?

00:42:31.020 You know, that's, if you got your gun sighted in for.

00:42:32.980 Are they advertised that way in the gun shop, this bullet will hit what it's aimed at?

00:42:35.680 Yeah, no, and most people don't get overly fussy with accuracy, you know what I mean?

00:42:43.580 Which they shouldn't.

00:42:44.360 You shouldn't, that shouldn't be your, you should just be happy with what, if you're shooting something at 25 feet and you can hit it at 25 feet.

00:42:51.660 If you can hit a person at 25 feet with your little nine millimeter, that's, you're not going to get any better than that.

00:42:57.260 You're not going to hit a golf ball at 50 yards with a nine millimeter.

00:42:59.960 No.

00:43:00.520 I mean, I do, but that's an extraordinary skill.

00:43:01.600 You can, I mean, if you practice and practice and practice, you know.

00:43:05.120 I can hit the, you know, with a pistol resting.

00:43:07.780 You've shot with me before.

00:43:09.100 We've hit little targets at 50 yards.

00:43:11.280 Yep.

00:43:12.520 Two out of six times.

00:43:14.180 Yeah.

00:43:14.660 You know, but, you know, you know that time you miss, you're still pretty close to it.

00:43:19.760 You know, if you're hitting it two out of six times, the other four times, you're probably within a kill range of a.

00:43:24.200 Of course you are.

00:43:25.320 Of a person.

00:43:26.100 So, yeah, people get too carried.

00:43:27.940 But, yeah, back to the 130 yard shot thing.

00:43:30.320 Holy smokes, that's a long shot for most hunters.

00:43:33.580 I don't know about nowadays, although you watch all the hunting shows and they're shooting the guns and the feeder comes on.

00:43:40.320 The deer comes out, you know.

00:43:44.620 You hear the feeder in the hunting show.

00:43:48.140 Then they leave the deer overnight.

00:43:49.800 Yeah.

00:43:49.940 Then they leave the deer overnight and go.

00:43:51.940 So, yeah, they do make long shots.

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00:45:25.220 So, what's the mindset you were talking about?

00:45:40.920 You said, when I said, what's successful prepping look like?

00:45:43.760 You said it's changing your mind.

00:45:45.200 Yeah, your mindset's the whole, getting your family ready for, I don't want to offend anybody doing this.

00:45:51.760 Go ahead.

00:45:52.680 I don't want to offend, I don't know, I consider myself a rich person.

00:45:58.720 I mean, I got everything I want in life, but I don't want to offend people that, say, people that depend on everything.

00:46:05.260 Like, the person that goes into a house or something, and the door doesn't open correctly, and they call somebody to fix it.

00:46:13.180 Instead of just lifting up on the door a little bit and closing it.

00:46:15.740 Yeah.

00:46:16.100 You know what I mean?

00:46:16.640 And they, oh my God, the door doesn't work, the door's broken.

00:46:20.000 I just lift up on it a little bit, the house moves a little bit, only does that in August, you know.

00:46:24.260 Exactly.

00:46:24.620 You know, they just got to be ready for a world where everything's not taken care of for them.

00:46:31.580 You know, there's no door dash, there's no going to the store and getting your stuff already made, because there is no store.

00:46:39.780 Right.

00:46:40.060 You know, there is no gas to get to the store, you know, and I really don't think it's ever going to get to that point in my life.

00:46:46.860 I hope it doesn't.

00:46:47.780 I mean, I don't want that.

00:46:48.860 Yeah.

00:46:49.020 I mean, we live in a beautiful world, you know, we're very relaxed.

00:46:53.260 Every, earning and making money is the easiest part of life.

00:46:58.220 I mean, that's the simple part.

00:46:59.520 Yeah.

00:46:59.640 That's all the other little bullshit that comes along with it that makes it hard.

00:47:03.900 But yeah, you got to get the mindset of, okay, if things get bad, okay, I'm going to have to probably abandon your house in Washington, D.C.

00:47:13.780 I don't know if you're going to get any money for it, if there is any money.

00:47:16.900 Yeah.

00:47:17.360 You know, what is money?

00:47:18.760 Right.

00:47:18.980 It's just a bunch of stuff on computers, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't mean anything.

00:47:23.320 Yeah.

00:47:23.800 And so, okay, I'm going to have to abandon my house in D.C.

00:47:26.820 Maybe, might as well leave your car in D.C. or hope you got enough gas to get to Maine in your car and hope it's not a big funnel of, like I say, Maine's probably a pretty good place.

00:47:35.840 Not too many people are going to go to Maine when it gets that bad.

00:47:38.300 Right.

00:47:38.820 They're going to go to Florida or South Carolina or somewhere.

00:47:42.760 For sure.

00:47:43.400 For sure.

00:47:44.400 They're not going to go to Maine.

00:47:45.300 So, we're probably pretty safe.

00:47:46.900 You know, look at it that way.

00:47:48.360 I take, you know, look back at the earlier part of the conversation.

00:47:51.300 No, we're probably pretty safe up here.

00:47:53.300 Well, that's the hope.

00:47:54.180 Bad weather keeps bad people out.

00:47:55.540 Yeah.

00:47:55.680 Yeah.

00:47:55.800 But, yeah, you got to get that mindset of, you know, okay, we're just going to have to live that.

00:47:59.900 And maybe practice it a little bit.

00:48:01.720 Maybe instead of going on vacation to some resort in the Caribbean or the French Riviera or something, take your family to, you know.

00:48:11.620 The woods.

00:48:12.380 To Subumic, you know.

00:48:14.500 And stay there for two weeks in a tent and just have fun.

00:48:18.380 You know, don't have them do fire drills or, you know, just go and shoot some tin cans with the .22 and, you know, kind of make a game out of it.

00:48:27.160 Like, you know, everybody will talk, well, I don't want to live in a world if it gets like that.

00:48:30.600 That will be awful.

00:48:31.380 No, it's not going to be awful.

00:48:32.800 You're going to survive.

00:48:33.560 It's happened many times in history, right?

00:48:36.900 I mean, many cultures have been through that type of.

00:48:39.560 Well, so you're 52.

00:48:41.320 I remember this area, you know, 50 years ago.

00:48:44.200 And people kind of lived that way much closer to that, even then, not that long ago, really.

00:48:51.020 Right, right.

00:48:52.140 Yeah.

00:48:52.380 I mean, did your mom grow up in a house with running water?

00:48:56.240 No, I don't think that the farm that they grew up in here didn't have running water.

00:49:00.940 When they moved to Bethel, I don't think they got it shortly, but I think they had an outhouse.

00:49:05.700 I know that.

00:49:06.340 Yeah.

00:49:06.720 Yeah.

00:49:06.920 And I know they didn't have electricity.

00:49:09.040 We had a bad well when I was a kid, which was no, it didn't faze anybody a bit.

00:49:14.480 Our well would go dry in the summertime.

00:49:16.460 I remember that.

00:49:17.720 And, you know, wells were expensive, $5,000 to get a well drilled back then, probably $20,000 now.

00:49:23.160 So we just filled up five-gallon buckets, and that's how we flushed it.

00:49:26.160 It wasn't a, I took showers at my grandmother's house, you know, in the summer when it was dry.

00:49:31.700 Not all year, you know.

00:49:33.160 So it wasn't a, you know, maybe have your, maybe shut the water, maybe cut the power off to your house

00:49:37.820 for a week when your family, just to see how it, you know, just not as a punishment or

00:49:43.620 to be mean or anything like that.

00:49:45.740 Like, hey, let's make some fun out of this.

00:49:47.960 You know, let's, let's, let's cook our food outside.

00:49:50.820 You don't have to go kill a deer or anything like that, but buy a, buy a leg of lamb at

00:49:55.200 the store.

00:49:55.960 And let's just cook this on the fire outside.

00:49:57.960 We're going to shut the electricity off for a week.

00:50:00.260 You know, we'll read some books or, you know, maybe shut your phone off.

00:50:04.400 I don't know if the phones will, will go bad when all the bad things happen.

00:50:09.300 I, who knows what's going to, we don't know what's going to, it could be a, what do they

00:50:13.140 call the bomb when it wipes out all the electrical?

00:50:16.580 Like the neutron bomb?

00:50:17.980 Yeah.

00:50:18.360 Like all the electrical waves and the, you know what I'm talking about?

00:50:21.060 Oh, the EMP attack.

00:50:21.780 Yeah, EMP.

00:50:22.440 Yeah.

00:50:23.220 Yeah.

00:50:23.440 I don't, you know, that's probably would just really freak people out.

00:50:27.160 Take a kid's cell phone away when he tries to go to school and see how they act.

00:50:30.300 They don't like that very much.

00:50:31.540 They don't?

00:50:31.960 No, it's in the paper all the time.

00:50:34.380 They're trying, schools have policies that the kids aren't supposed to have the cell

00:50:37.720 phone in school, which is obvious.

00:50:39.120 Why should a kid have a cell phone in school?

00:50:41.260 Yeah.

00:50:41.520 And the schools can't take the cell phones away from the kids.

00:50:43.820 They're like, it's not, it's not going well for them.

00:50:47.500 Really?

00:50:47.920 Yeah.

00:50:48.040 His kids are so addicted to it.

00:50:49.380 Yeah.

00:50:49.580 And the parents are like, no, my kid has to have the cell phone.

00:50:51.860 So now they're making the kid try to get the kid to keep the thing in the locker

00:50:55.040 during class.

00:50:56.640 So in between class, they just go to their locker and get out the cell phone.

00:50:59.640 You know, who can afford a, whose kid can afford a cell phone?

00:51:03.880 That's what I'm saying.

00:51:05.680 You know what I mean?

00:51:06.420 At that.

00:51:07.020 And they're talking about, and this is the news.

00:51:08.400 I don't have kids, so I don't know.

00:51:09.740 Maybe it's a different world we live in and I'm not up to date on that.

00:51:12.460 But why does an eighth grader have a cell phone?

00:51:15.320 Well, because they're only a thousand dollars.

00:51:19.320 You know, who can afford a cell phone for an eighth grader?

00:51:22.040 You know, working, or who wants to?

00:51:23.920 Who would want to waste their money?

00:51:25.220 Why does the eighth grader need us?

00:51:26.520 The school gives them computers.

00:51:28.200 They all have a laptop.

00:51:29.460 Right.

00:51:29.860 The politicians did that.

00:51:31.300 So every kid has a laptop.

00:51:34.540 And the kid's parents were, like, selling, haunting the laptops to buy drugs with.

00:51:39.200 That was funny on that.

00:51:41.080 Oh, you like that, huh?

00:51:41.980 It was pretty cool because we knew what was going to happen, right?

00:51:47.200 So, yeah, get your family ready.

00:51:50.200 That's, I mean, interrupt you, but just to finish that other thing is get your family ready.

00:51:54.380 Just have them, and don't make a work thing out.

00:51:57.780 Don't make doing firewood a chore or something, you know.

00:52:03.540 You can't have fun today because we have to do firewood.

00:52:06.520 We're going to have fun today and do firewood, you know.

00:52:09.980 Play some music while they're stacking the wood, you know.

00:52:12.280 You get six of your family members together to do the firewood.

00:52:15.220 It goes pretty fast.

00:52:17.380 Did you do firewood as a kid?

00:52:18.780 Oh, yeah.

00:52:19.660 I loved cutting wood.

00:52:21.040 I love firewood.

00:52:21.880 It's kind of, like, I hate painting, but there are certain times when I don't mind painting if I just want to forget about something.

00:52:29.100 Yep.

00:52:29.500 Like, simple little chores like that are so, like, weed whacking.

00:52:34.160 The best.

00:52:35.360 Chainsawing.

00:52:35.900 Just going through the woods and cutting up a bunch of dead trees with a chainsaw for no reason.

00:52:39.160 I used to go after, you know, after tapings if I was feeling tense to go out in the woods and cut, as you know.

00:52:45.600 Yeah.

00:52:45.820 But then I put that ethanol gas in my chainsaw.

00:52:48.800 Then you got the electric chainsaw.

00:52:50.520 I got the electric chainsaw.

00:52:51.680 Do you remember that?

00:52:52.220 That was fun, though.

00:52:54.020 I mean, it was fine.

00:52:55.260 The electric chainsaw was fine, but.

00:52:56.660 Good for about an hour.

00:52:57.400 It's good for about an hour.

00:52:58.240 It's exactly right.

00:52:59.620 Yeah.

00:52:59.860 No, so make a game out of things.

00:53:01.700 Like, don't, you know, buy your kid a dirt bike.

00:53:06.720 That's fine.

00:53:07.560 Yeah.

00:53:07.780 You know, but don't, don't, I had dirt bikes and snowmobiles when I was a kid, but I remember my, and I was around my grandfather a lot because he lived right next door and he was retired.

00:53:18.440 So I was around him a lot and he'd be like, no, we don't have any, you know, that's enough gas for today.

00:53:23.660 And I was fine with it.

00:53:24.600 I was like, okay, I get to ride it for a couple hours, but gas was pretty expensive when I was a kid.

00:53:28.760 Yeah.

00:53:29.000 Early 80s.

00:53:30.100 Wasn't cheap.

00:53:31.440 I think it was like a buck 70.

00:53:32.640 It was a, one time there it was what, like a buck 70 a gallon or something like that.

00:53:36.980 And it dropped at the end of the 80s.

00:53:38.720 Yeah.

00:53:38.940 At the end of the 80s, it went back down to like a buck a gallon.

00:53:41.400 Yeah.

00:53:42.100 Yeah.

00:53:42.520 But you know, my grandfather would, you know, he filling up a, to, to have somebody fill up a five gallon can for me to ride a snowmobile around in a field was a big deal.

00:53:50.000 I mean, it was a luxury for me as a kid and it was, I appreciated it.

00:53:54.740 You know, I'd say, geez, can I have two gallons of gas today?

00:53:57.320 Yeah.

00:53:57.520 Okay.

00:53:58.380 You know, whoops, you helped with the firewood.

00:54:00.320 You're going to have some gas, you know.

00:54:02.100 Did you help with your grandparents' firewood also?

00:54:04.300 Yeah.

00:54:04.600 Yeah.

00:54:04.800 He burned a lot.

00:54:05.540 He had a big farmhouse.

00:54:06.980 He split, he did, he did his wood by hand.

00:54:09.680 Really?

00:54:10.220 Yeah.

00:54:10.400 He cut it with a chainsaw, but he would line them all up, split them by hand, line them up on the road.

00:54:14.420 He had a whole line of firewood, split it by hand.

00:54:16.480 Then he had a chute that went down into a cellar.

00:54:19.060 We'd all get together and throw it in the cellar.

00:54:21.680 How much did he burn in winter?

00:54:23.120 I'd say about 10 gourd.

00:54:24.400 He burned a, he had a big farmhouse.

00:54:26.360 Then when he got older, they put an oil furnace in because he was like in his 80s and it was too much for him to do the firewood.

00:54:33.580 Do you notice the difference between wood heat and oil heat?

00:54:35.740 Oh yeah, definitely.

00:54:36.720 It's not.

00:54:37.060 Oil heat's fast, faster.

00:54:39.740 You know, you come into your house.

00:54:41.960 But if you come home from a day of being out, just soaked to the bone, froze.

00:54:48.020 Like say you're doing carpentry all day in the cold and your hands are just frozen and your feet are wet and you're just cold, stinging cold.

00:54:57.500 And you just stand in front of that wood stove and it just, it almost burns as you're warming.

00:55:02.300 You know, you almost have to step away from it.

00:55:04.080 It's like, okay, too hot, too fast.

00:55:05.940 Like jumping in a hot tub when you're cold, you know how it kind of burns.

00:55:08.900 Yeah.

00:55:09.320 And it's just, but it heats you, it will warm your core up.

00:55:13.020 Now standing in front of a register, you know, a radiator in the hallway doesn't, you don't.

00:55:18.900 A forced air vent.

00:55:19.720 Yeah, a forced air.

00:55:20.620 Forced air is actually better than a register, I think.

00:55:24.380 Yeah.

00:55:24.540 Than a forced air vent that's actually warm air blowing on you.

00:55:26.940 That feels pretty good.

00:55:28.160 Yeah.

00:55:28.260 I like forced air better than the radiant heat myself.

00:55:31.000 Really?

00:55:31.400 Yeah.

00:55:31.860 Because the radiant heat's kind of, it's just there, but it's not hot.

00:55:36.260 You know, it's just like a constant, you know, if you were frozen and you were laying on next to a radiator or a radiant heat system, it would take a long time to warm up.

00:55:45.200 But a forced air one's blowing warm air on you.

00:55:47.380 It seems to just warm you up a little bit faster.

00:55:49.860 Do you think any of the people who run our country could answer any of the questions I've asked you?

00:55:53.540 I don't know.

00:55:54.160 They put the people that, well, you talk about it all the time.

00:56:00.840 The most retarded people in charge.

00:56:02.020 Yeah, they could put the guy that can't do eighth grade math in charge of the energy grid, you know.

00:56:09.960 And then, okay, maybe he's a good leader, right?

00:56:14.640 You really, and I want to bug it, we'll get back to that, but he's a good leader, right?

00:56:19.820 Okay.

00:56:21.020 So he can't do eighth grade math, but he's a good organizer.

00:56:23.820 He's a good leader.

00:56:24.540 He's going to hire the, you know, he's going to hire a bunch of engineers, guys who went to MIT and, you know, good common sense people.

00:56:30.980 Well, no, he doesn't hire the, you know, he doesn't even hire those people.

00:56:35.580 Who does he hire?

00:56:36.420 He just hires more people just like him.

00:56:38.460 Just more like-minded people like him that have the same, you know, I'll just make these numbers.

00:56:43.980 I tried to do some of this research right before I got here.

00:56:46.660 Have you ever looked up on the internet, like, how much electricity a windmill produces or how much electricity a ski lift uses?

00:56:55.100 No.

00:56:55.440 There's like no, you know, don't trust everything you read on the internet.

00:56:59.480 Very vague answers in a lot of that stuff.

00:57:02.020 Really?

00:57:02.680 Yeah.

00:57:03.100 You know, you think it'd be cut and dry.

00:57:04.680 Of course.

00:57:05.340 Like, you know, a windmill puts out so many kilowatts and a chairlift uses this many.

00:57:10.560 Well, and they just go around in a circle.

00:57:13.220 Well, it depends on how long the chairlift is and how many chairs.

00:57:16.620 Well, obviously, it depends on that.

00:57:18.300 How about the average chairlift?

00:57:19.500 Yeah, the average chairlift.

00:57:20.340 How about the average windmill in an average year?

00:57:22.380 Right, yeah.

00:57:23.180 You can get those specs on your truck.

00:57:24.780 Yeah.

00:57:24.960 It'll tell you exactly how many horsepower under certain circumstances your motor produces.

00:57:28.180 Right, but then look up how much it costs to charge your Cybertruck.

00:57:31.440 And it's like, well, it depends on where you live in the, which it does depend on where you live in the electricity rates, you know.

00:57:37.600 Right.

00:57:38.040 It might be 18 cents a kilowatt hour here.

00:57:41.200 It might be 23 cents here, but you could say, okay, it costs 50 bucks to charge your, you know.

00:57:47.520 They don't give the, they just lead you around in a circle because they're trying to push all this stuff on you.

00:57:53.580 Like, I read somewhere that the, I mean, I don't believe everything I read, especially on that.

00:57:58.660 Because, you know, the wackos that are trying to push all this stuff on you are really, really, you know, leading you down the wrong path.

00:58:07.900 And the wackos that are trying to disprove them are really, really pulling you off the other path.

00:58:12.220 You know, like, oh, the wind never, you know.

00:58:14.780 The wind never blows.

00:58:17.540 So, but I looked up a thing for how much energy it took to run the New York subway.

00:58:25.220 Because I know trains use a lot of power.

00:58:27.320 Yeah.

00:58:27.500 And the thing that, and I did all the math of the kilowatt hours and how much, you know, it was just getting, I'm not an engineer.

00:58:36.000 And it was very misleading, the information that the solar panel companies are putting out.

00:58:40.880 But, and then I read somewhere, I read this article and the guy said, yeah, like the size of Arizona solar panels.

00:58:46.820 Just to run the New York subway, not the city.

00:58:50.380 To start a subway car, you, just to get the subway car rolling with 10, 10 units hooked to the motor, to the engine.

00:59:00.160 Just to get it rolling, not to keep it going, just to get it rolling uses, would power 1,300 average homes for a year.

00:59:09.700 No way.

00:59:10.760 Yeah.

00:59:11.060 Because it takes a lot of power to get electricity going.

00:59:13.460 Yes.

00:59:13.800 Like the local sawmill and the local ski area have to coordinate with the, well, they used to, probably not now.

00:59:19.780 But they used to, the mills in areas have to coordinate with the power grid of when they're going to start their shifts.

00:59:25.060 If they're running shifts and the machines aren't running.

00:59:27.580 Because you can't turn on that sawmill and turn on all the chair lifts at the same time.

00:59:31.580 It uses that much energy to get it going.

00:59:33.560 So sawmills electric?

00:59:34.880 Yeah.

00:59:35.280 The big ones, like the big, big sawmills.

00:59:37.660 You know, the huge ones.

00:59:38.940 Why?

00:59:39.900 Well, that's what runs the blade on the.

00:59:41.260 Yeah, but why not diesel or gasoline?

00:59:44.460 Oh, it's just a smoother motor.

00:59:45.980 I mean, less vibration.

00:59:47.080 And you don't want that big diesel motor humming next to your head all day.

00:59:49.820 No.

00:59:49.920 It might be electric.

00:59:50.920 A lot of sawmills will have their own power plant.

00:59:53.560 They'll have two big diesel generators out back running that run the electric motors.

00:59:58.060 Like an asphalt plant has a big diesel motor that, the asphalt plant's all electric.

01:00:02.400 But we had a diesel motor sitting there, like a train.

01:00:06.560 Yeah.

01:00:07.140 A train.

01:00:07.560 You see the black smoke rolling out of the train going down the tracks.

01:00:10.740 It's an electric motor.

01:00:12.260 It's just a diesel generator powering the electric motor.

01:00:16.820 So if we go to electric vehicles and AI is running them.

01:00:22.000 In 2030, Vermont has to be 100% electric.

01:00:25.660 They've passed the law already.

01:00:27.800 What does that mean?

01:00:28.760 I don't know.

01:00:31.100 Well, the sale of electric.

01:00:32.740 Is that super?

01:00:33.420 What do you, so you live very dangerously close to Vermont.

01:00:36.420 Yeah.

01:00:37.520 What do you, do you ever go over there?

01:00:38.820 Yeah, we used to go to Vermont quite often.

01:00:40.860 My parents had a monument gravestone business.

01:00:45.000 And that's where we got our stones.

01:00:46.500 So I've been to Vermont a lot, back and forth.

01:00:49.560 Yeah.

01:00:50.080 And yeah, it's like Maine.

01:00:51.860 If you drive down across Route 2 to Vermont, it's the same.

01:00:54.960 A little more mountainous over there through Mount Washington.

01:00:57.580 But for the most part, it's the same.

01:01:00.820 But not everyone in the, I mean, a lot of normal people in Vermont.

01:01:02.980 Yeah, I know.

01:01:03.480 A lot of rednecks over there and regular people.

01:01:06.860 So they're all going to have to go electric, like electric, chainsaw, electric?

01:01:09.740 When they pass one of those bills, I mean, this might be one of those questions that nobody knows the answer to.

01:01:15.140 When they pass one of those bills that California passed the bill, all electric by 2035, what does that mean?

01:01:21.180 Does anybody actually know?

01:01:22.340 Does that mean that they're really not going to sell any gasoline vehicles in California after 2035?

01:01:30.060 Can they change that?

01:01:31.200 A lot of electric motors are powered by diesel generators.

01:01:37.000 Ski areas.

01:01:38.380 A lot of ski lifts have the diesel motor sitting right there on the chairlift itself.

01:01:44.100 You'll see this, you know, a lot of ski areas have the diesel motor that powers the electric, or it's a diesel.

01:01:49.280 Some are just direct drive diesel lifts.

01:01:51.540 So I'm starting to think that reality is not going to catch up to these laws.

01:01:55.360 Yeah, I don't know.

01:01:56.220 Unless they come up with some kind of batteries, like the Cybertruck that we're testing right now.

01:02:00.760 I went 140 miles yesterday, and I was at about 50%.

01:02:06.520 That's fine for me.

01:02:08.060 I don't, I very rarely drive 200 miles a day.

01:02:11.900 But if I had to all of a sudden go somewhere at the end of the day, like, holy shit, I got to drive, you know, there's a family emergency.

01:02:19.680 I'm out of beer.

01:02:20.840 Yeah, I'm out of beer.

01:02:21.680 Yeah, there's a family emergency in New York City or South Carolina, and I got to go somewhere real fast and hop in my car and drive.

01:02:29.680 Oh, shit, my car's only half full now.

01:02:32.240 I got to wait 20 minutes for it to charge, or I have to go buy a super.

01:02:37.080 I wouldn't, I was, when I went to get that cement yesterday, I was like, well, maybe I might have to charge this getting that cement, because I didn't know.

01:02:42.920 I'd never been on a long trip with it.

01:02:44.740 So I'm looking up supercharging stations on the way to the cement place.

01:02:47.760 Oh, no, there isn't any.

01:02:48.820 There's slow charging stations that take eight hours.

01:02:51.860 It's just a 120 volt plug.

01:02:55.200 Well, probably a 220 plug.

01:02:57.000 Yeah, I'd charge it at my house with 220.

01:02:58.880 But yeah, the electric, the power grid and the diesel and the nuclear would be great.

01:03:05.880 Hydro dams would be, Canada, doesn't Canada get all this power from hydro?

01:03:09.340 Like all of it, right?

01:03:10.040 They own the hydro dams in Maine, Brookfield.

01:03:12.020 Right.

01:03:12.400 So why, obviously they've got the methods to make hydro dams to where the pipe, you know, they tap into the bottom of the river with the pipe.

01:03:22.500 They do it all over the place.

01:03:24.100 And the pipe runs underneath the ground to the turbine, pops out downriver.

01:03:29.660 So there's no dam, you know, you're not losing any.

01:03:33.900 The fish are still getting through.

01:03:35.060 That little section of river might be a little bit, you know what I mean?

01:03:39.140 It's losing that flow of water, but it's still popping out.

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01:06:32.060 So there's actually no downside to that.

01:06:43.420 Yeah, there's all kinds of technology.

01:06:44.520 You're just pulling energy off of something that's constantly producing energy.

01:06:48.360 Yeah, you're not building a dam.

01:06:49.620 Right.

01:06:49.820 So you go to a place where the river's always deep and, you know, wide and deep, you know, a flat spot in the river where there's no, and you just tap into the, and they're doing that.

01:07:00.960 There's technology for that.

01:07:02.280 It's not hurting.

01:07:03.020 Why are they so against that?

01:07:04.200 Because they're not pushing their solar panels and their windmills that they've got invested in.

01:07:10.000 You know, you read about all these politicians that got rich off the, and people don't like reading that, you know.

01:07:15.700 Six-pack Joe going to the store, reading the paper that so-and-so politician has all of a sudden got rich off windmills.

01:07:22.160 He's not dumb.

01:07:22.920 He can figure out what's going on.

01:07:24.200 But, you know, the windmill project in Rhode Island, according to the, I watch a lot of YouTube, it's very, it's good.

01:07:34.460 I mean, it's almost a default.

01:07:35.600 Most people I know, it's the default TV now, is YouTube.

01:07:38.480 I mean, the windmill project in Rhode Island, I don't know the name of the project, but it's in the news all the time.

01:07:45.640 Offshore windmills.

01:07:46.400 Yeah, offshore windmills in the ocean.

01:07:48.000 And so the Kennedy-type people don't want it because it's in their backyard and, you know, the Obamas people that live in Nantucket and Rhode Island and all those fancy places don't want it.

01:07:59.480 They want to send, they want to send, they want to put them up in, you know, Rangeley, Maine.

01:08:04.360 Because, you know, we're not going to, we don't care up here.

01:08:07.220 You know, what do we care?

01:08:09.240 About natural beauty and like living a decent life.

01:08:11.680 But that windmill is huge and it provides one seven hundredth.

01:08:19.560 And the guy, he wrote it out on a piece of paper and did the math of the kilowatt hours.

01:08:23.640 He was smarter than I was.

01:08:25.040 One seven hundredth of the electricity that it takes to power, not just the area that it's going to power, but Rhode Island, which is the size of that coffee cup.

01:08:34.300 So the windmill project, with the wind blowing, a seven hundredth of what Rhode Island uses for power.

01:08:41.360 And they've shut down either one or two big power plants in Rhode Island.

01:08:46.380 And they wrecked a commercial fishery.

01:08:48.080 And they wrecked a commercial fishery too.

01:08:49.900 And the windmills were already falling apart out in the ocean.

01:08:53.360 One came apart.

01:08:54.300 I don't know where it was.

01:08:55.160 It was on the news.

01:08:55.780 I just kind of laughed when I walked by the TV because the windmill was all, the blade was sticking down in the ocean.

01:09:02.300 And the environmentalist people were worried that the material that the blade was made out of was going to poison the fish.

01:09:10.820 You know, so who said that it's okay to, well, I guess windmills would be our biggest thing here.

01:09:16.200 Solar panels are pretty, there's a few solar farms around, but they're small.

01:09:20.580 Yeah.

01:09:20.980 Maybe 10 acres or something.

01:09:22.520 So they're not too offensive yet.

01:09:24.380 They're not, well, I don't know, when you get off the turnpike in gray, there's, that one's kind of offensive when I say that one.

01:09:30.500 It used to be cows in that field.

01:09:31.900 Well, now there's, now there's windmills.

01:09:34.260 I mean, now there's, now there's solar panels, but the windmill, I mean, who's to dynamite the top of a mountain?

01:09:40.740 You got to build a road up there to get the windmill projects they use.

01:09:43.780 My neighbor does them.

01:09:45.120 And they're, you know, you got to blast the top of a mountain range, blast it just to flatten off a spot to put these windmills and build a road to it and maintain the road to it.

01:09:55.480 And, and the erosion from maintaining the road every, who's, you know, have they, it's like cash for clunkers when they wanted in, what was that, early 2000s?

01:10:03.200 Trade in your.

01:10:03.860 Obama, yeah.

01:10:04.500 Trade in, trade in your, you know, Ford Bronco for a, for a Toyota Tacoma and you got $4,000 for your Ford Bronco.

01:10:13.800 Well, sounds great.

01:10:14.540 Yeah.

01:10:14.660 You're driving something that gets 25 miles a gallon versus something that, you know, gets 15 miles to the gallon.

01:10:21.340 But the natural resources that it took to build that better gas mileage car versus keeping that Ford Bronco on the road and not mining all that new steel and rubber and all the resources that it takes to build that car.

01:10:38.860 They didn't think, they didn't really factor that into the point.

01:10:41.740 Okay, this guy's only driving 5,000 miles a year in his 96 Bronco that gets 10 miles to the gallon.

01:10:49.800 So you give him $4,000 of our money to buy a Toyota Tacoma that gets better gas mileage, they're all going to be off the road in 10 years, rusted out anyway.

01:10:59.240 But maybe he's maintaining that Bronco.

01:11:01.580 Maybe it's, you know, not rusted or he just, you know, anything, doesn't matter.

01:11:06.260 But why is that better to just junk that and get rid of it and buy the new car?

01:11:13.160 Someone's getting rich from it.

01:11:13.900 Someone got, and that was a whole scam on the Cash for Clunkers.

01:11:16.520 I don't know if you have ever reported on that, but I don't remember the particulars of it, but it was a scam.

01:11:20.800 I mean, they got rich on it.

01:11:22.180 It's all a scam and nothing's a bigger scam than wind power.

01:11:25.740 Yeah, that's like, that's huge.

01:11:28.220 You read those articles and then, you know, they don't, they're not on the everyday news,

01:11:33.740 but there's been articles on the local papers about the scamming.

01:11:37.340 Have you ever shot one with a .308?

01:11:39.000 I'd love to shoot one.

01:11:40.100 They were going to put them behind my house on my mountain.

01:11:42.840 That was a big thing.

01:11:43.560 Oh yeah, my wife was going to the meetings and my neighbor was, had the signs up, no windmills.

01:11:48.260 And the bat, there was a bat, species of bat up there that was rare or a breeding ground for bat breeding grounds.

01:11:58.760 And that was apparently why they didn't do it and the money for them.

01:12:02.460 And I think when Trump got in, didn't a lot of that stuff dry up?

01:12:05.440 I don't know, probably not.

01:12:06.380 I think, I don't know, but something happened politically, but it was a bat thing that was holding them back.

01:12:11.200 And that was what, and they still have a hundred year.

01:12:15.200 I don't know if it's a lease or an agreement that they could still go up there and do it.

01:12:19.000 If they put those windmills in, what caliber rifle would have stopped them, do you think?

01:12:24.420 I don't know.

01:12:25.300 I think you got to hit them right in the middle.

01:12:26.920 Well, I don't think a bullet hole through the tip of the wing is going to, it's like shooting an airplane with a bullet in the wing.

01:12:33.360 It's really not going to stop the plane.

01:12:34.960 You got to hit the guts of it, you know, you really get it.

01:12:37.840 And this is going to, I'm usually right about these kinds of things.

01:12:42.040 Like, okay, in 50 years, when these windmills, or probably 30 years, when these windmills are abandoned and falling apart, you know, they're just, nobody's taking care of them anymore.

01:12:53.180 The whole industry is bankrupt.

01:12:54.720 They're falling over on the side of the mountain.

01:12:56.460 They're just wasted.

01:12:58.100 People are going to go there.

01:13:00.000 And there's going to be no frigging wire going to the thing to start with.

01:13:02.180 It's that much of a scam.

01:13:03.600 Like, there's not even a wire going to the thing.

01:13:05.440 That's my prediction.

01:13:06.860 So you think we're going to discover this whole thing is bullshit?

01:13:09.820 Like, they're not actually producing power?

01:13:11.080 Yeah, they're not even hooked up.

01:13:11.960 There's nothing on the inside.

01:13:13.000 It's just big blades.

01:13:13.780 There's no generator on the inside or anything.

01:13:16.740 I'm that much of a weirdo that I think.

01:13:18.600 I don't think that's weird at all.

01:13:19.920 I don't think it's weird at all.

01:13:21.060 This kid, this 20-year-old kid with no training just shot Trump at 140 yards with a .223.

01:13:26.980 Right.

01:13:27.680 Anything is possible.

01:13:29.140 That's for sure, yeah.

01:13:30.500 Have you ever been up and poked around the windmills?

01:13:33.840 I've never been, not those big ones.

01:13:37.260 I mean, I've been up towers and stuff.

01:13:38.720 I've climbed towers before, but I've never been up a windmill tower.

01:13:41.380 No, I don't like getting near them.

01:13:42.500 I don't know.

01:13:43.660 What do you mean?

01:13:44.320 I don't know.

01:13:44.800 They're just not, they're not scenic.

01:13:46.540 I don't want to spend, I'm not going to, I'm not going to go to take my vacation in the Bronx.

01:13:50.800 I'm not going to go hang out next to a frigging windmill.

01:13:53.740 You know, it's basically the same thing to me.

01:13:56.320 Yeah.

01:13:56.440 My friend has a camp.

01:13:57.500 You've been there where you look out the porch and you see the 22 windmills on the mountain.

01:14:02.060 I don't know.

01:14:04.180 It kind of ruins it for me.

01:14:05.660 I agree.

01:14:06.380 Maybe, maybe I'm just being selfish.

01:14:08.840 I don't know.

01:14:09.680 No, they're being selfish actually.

01:14:11.180 Right.

01:14:11.420 I mean.

01:14:11.720 They're moving them into poor areas where the town, but towns have been depopulated because of changes that they instituted to our economy.

01:14:18.320 And the town can't say no because they need the money.

01:14:21.640 Right.

01:14:22.560 Yeah.

01:14:22.760 They're buying off the people that can be bought off.

01:14:25.400 Yeah.

01:14:25.960 Cheap.

01:14:26.760 Yeah.

01:14:27.740 And it's, you know, it's like selling the family farm to send your kid to the college type of theory, right?

01:14:34.060 Is that such, is it such a good idea that we're doing this?

01:14:37.620 You know, selling our mountaintops to the windmill people for some quick cash right now.

01:14:43.580 You know, is that the best thing for our future?

01:14:46.280 Probably not.

01:14:47.040 It actually, it sounds like a crime.

01:14:51.280 It should be.

01:14:52.300 I mean, especially when there's like no vote on it.

01:14:54.400 Like, you know, the, it's, I hate to pick on rich people, but the rich people own the land.

01:15:00.320 Yeah.

01:15:00.860 And they're selling basically, they're not really doing anything with it.

01:15:03.740 They log it.

01:15:04.320 We've been logging it for years.

01:15:05.740 The poor people do benefit from it.

01:15:07.800 The working class benefit, the paper mills benefit from it.

01:15:10.480 Okay.

01:15:11.400 That industry is kind of drying up from what we saw the other day.

01:15:15.000 And, uh, okay, well, this is our last chance to get just a little bit more money out of that land.

01:15:20.520 Well, some frigging scam deal with the government to put windmills on it, you know?

01:15:25.060 One last little push.

01:15:27.300 Give the little people a little something so they can build a new school or something out of the money or put a new road in or new something.

01:15:35.660 It's, they're selling their soul.

01:15:37.120 You really are.

01:15:37.680 You always feel you sell, when you sell land.

01:15:40.260 I've sold land before, you know, kind of because I had to, or I was moving or relocating or I needed the money and it just felt so soul burning.

01:15:47.880 Like, I didn't feel good afterwards.

01:15:49.360 No, you shouldn't.

01:15:49.880 After I sell that land.

01:15:51.180 I mean, I had to, and I, no regrets against it, you know?

01:15:54.240 I did, I got a lot of land now, so I made out better, you know?

01:15:58.740 Yeah.

01:15:59.240 I think I bettered myself doing it, but while I was doing it, I'm like, man, I'm selling land that belonged to my grandfather.

01:16:05.020 Like, I really don't, I just don't feel good.

01:16:07.980 Even though it wasn't much, it was only a couple of acres, you know, I needed to pay some bills and, you know, buy some stuff.

01:16:14.080 But I'm like, I just don't feel good doing this, you know?

01:16:16.600 I think that's right.

01:16:17.200 Yeah.

01:16:17.940 When those windmills break, who's going to cart them off and what happens to them?

01:16:23.020 They're big.

01:16:23.800 You ever seen one going down the road, the blade?

01:16:25.880 Oh, yeah.

01:16:26.440 Yeah, they like take up the whole road.

01:16:28.160 Yeah, I don't know what they, and the motors on the inside and the bearings, the construction company in town bought a crane just to, like a $4 million crane just to work on them.

01:16:38.060 You need that big equipment.

01:16:39.680 So, you can't tell me that going around and maintaining, there's a lot of windmills in Maine now.

01:16:44.960 They're everywhere.

01:16:46.040 Yeah.

01:16:46.580 And they, you know, and they still only provide supposedly 16% of the power for Maine.

01:16:52.040 Now, I don't, they say to Maine, that's another thing when you read these things, you have to really watch what you read because the 16% of the power for Maine is the residents.

01:17:05.400 And then another article said that that doesn't, I don't know if this is true or not, it's just what I read on the internet, that that doesn't include industrial power.

01:17:14.760 The residents, well, houses use very little electricity.

01:17:17.080 It doesn't take much to power the houses in Maine.

01:17:18.940 Right.

01:17:19.200 They use most of the electricity, but they use very little.

01:17:22.260 Right.

01:17:22.800 You know, but the factories and stuff, and, you know, they, they use power.

01:17:26.560 Ski areas use a shitload of power, you know.

01:17:29.240 What do you think of ski areas?

01:17:31.060 I like to ski.

01:17:32.300 I've always skied.

01:17:33.400 I don't ski anymore.

01:17:34.620 Just, I don't, it's too crowded for me now.

01:17:36.860 You know, I don't, it's like waiting in line at Walmart when I go skiing.

01:17:40.100 That's what I feel like I'm doing.

01:17:41.600 But yeah, I don't know.

01:17:42.760 It's like, it's another thing kind of selling your soul, you know, all right, let's, like

01:17:47.800 I said, bulldoze the top of this mountain off and cut all the trees and cause a shitload

01:17:52.080 of erosion just so a bunch of rich people can slide down the hill, you know.

01:17:57.620 That seemed like a good trade.

01:17:58.360 You don't see too many poor people skiing.

01:18:00.040 You don't?

01:18:00.740 No.

01:18:01.740 They don't have ghetto day at the ski area?

01:18:03.620 No.

01:18:04.880 You know, it's like golf courses.

01:18:06.700 Golf courses are beautiful.

01:18:07.740 And I think once, I think once something is done, I think it's, it's one thing, like

01:18:12.880 once a, once a wind farm is in or once a ski area is constructed, I think the damage is

01:18:18.700 done and mother nature kind of heals itself and does what it's going to do, you know, but

01:18:23.960 it's, it's the process of it can, can kill a lot of fish, I'm sure.

01:18:28.060 I mean, fish biologists will tell you that golf courses are the worst thing for, for fish.

01:18:32.840 For sure.

01:18:33.460 You know, golf courses, I don't play, I enjoy, I like looking at golf courses, they're

01:18:38.280 beautiful, they're mowed, I like nice, you know, they look nice, they got the trees and

01:18:42.000 everything, but man, you can't look at a golf course and just think, man, why, who thought

01:18:48.000 this was a good idea to fill in this swamp and bulldoze all this land and flatten it off

01:18:52.140 and cut all the trees just so I can hit this little white ball into a hole?

01:18:55.940 You know, who, who, who had that vision that that's what we should be doing with this land?

01:19:00.580 And same thing with the ski area, you know, looking at the beautiful mountain and you

01:19:04.800 get this ski, ski lift going up the side, who thought, oh Jesus, what a great place for

01:19:09.260 a ski area.

01:19:11.000 You know, I guess it's your personal preference.

01:19:13.660 If you really like skiing, I guess, I don't know, but not me personally, I'd be like, no,

01:19:18.020 don't put a ski area.

01:19:19.060 Why would you want a ski area there?

01:19:22.860 You know, when you just want to hike to the top of the mountain on your snowshoes, you

01:19:27.620 know, without the skier, have the skiers, shut the lifts down for a while.

01:19:31.540 Nothing against skiing.

01:19:32.560 I love skiing.

01:19:33.300 I'm a good skier.

01:19:34.300 I skied my whole life.

01:19:35.580 You know, I skied in Colorado.

01:19:36.460 I love skiing.

01:19:37.400 So I'm not bashing ski areas, but it just, you know, it's almost like enough's enough.

01:19:43.160 Try walk, walk to the top of the mountain and ski down.

01:19:45.860 You know, then you've accomplished something.

01:19:49.120 Yeah.

01:19:49.440 Fewer runs that way.

01:19:50.600 Yeah.

01:19:50.780 But you've accomplished something.

01:19:52.020 That's right.

01:19:52.140 You've actually done something that day.

01:19:53.740 Hopping on the chairlift, riding to the top and sliding down, you haven't accomplished

01:19:56.400 anything.

01:19:57.340 No, that's true.

01:19:57.900 You drove there in your car, you hopped on the chairlift, you rode to the top of the

01:20:01.060 mountain, you slid down the other side on your skis.

01:20:05.260 You didn't do anything.

01:20:06.860 You know?

01:20:07.200 Yeah.

01:20:07.460 You've, you know, you got to be in good shape to ski.

01:20:10.140 I mean, it's a young person's sport.

01:20:12.440 Yeah.

01:20:12.660 Or a person in good shape, but you don't have to be in that good of shape.

01:20:15.440 I can ski.

01:20:16.280 I'm not in good shape.

01:20:18.360 Yeah.

01:20:18.800 It's just, I don't know.

01:20:19.960 It just seemed like the wrong thing to do.

01:20:23.160 And then you see the development around any resort, whether it's a ski area or a golf course

01:20:28.620 or you can't think of any other kind of resorts that they have.

01:20:33.420 Really, that's about it, I guess.

01:20:35.460 The development around them is the big thing.

01:20:37.460 You know, look at the housing developments and the condos and another mountain bulldozed

01:20:43.180 over here.

01:20:43.720 So these people can look at that ski area, you know.

01:20:47.860 Oh, I want a view of the ski area.

01:20:49.160 I mean, that's personal preference.

01:20:50.580 That's not, I'm not putting those people down.

01:20:53.060 Just doesn't, nature-wise and environmentally, environmentally it certainly doesn't sound like

01:20:59.980 a good idea.

01:21:00.480 I don't think you need much environmental education to figure out that it's not good.

01:21:04.700 Yeah.

01:21:05.040 You know, I think eighth grade earth science would tell you that that's not a good thing

01:21:09.960 to do.

01:21:10.840 I know, paving a road to the top of the mountain so you can have views.

01:21:14.800 But it's been like that in Europe for a long time, right?

01:21:17.180 There's a lot of that in Europe, right?

01:21:19.300 Ski areas and development.

01:21:21.040 Oh, yeah.

01:21:21.400 So, and it's been fine over there.

01:21:23.960 I mean, Mother Nature does heal itself around those things.

01:21:27.860 So it's probably not long-term that big a deal for the environment.

01:21:32.900 I don't know.

01:21:33.320 It just seems like a short-term thing to me.

01:21:35.620 If we have a massive economic downturn, I mean, a lot of this stuff will heal itself,

01:21:41.020 as you said.

01:21:42.040 Right.

01:21:42.380 Anyway.

01:21:43.260 Yeah.

01:21:43.600 I think, yeah, if those houses get abandoned.

01:21:46.180 You've seen abandoned towns.

01:21:48.140 Yeah.

01:21:48.300 I looked up the post that I was stationed at in Germany, and it was, you know, abandoned.

01:21:55.060 I don't know what they use it for now, but basically abandoned.

01:21:57.220 And they were like stucco German, stucco-type buildings like you see in Germany.

01:22:01.780 And it was like the, it was like the, it's like gone.

01:22:05.420 Like the earth had already swallowed up all those buildings.

01:22:08.040 Really?

01:22:08.600 Yeah.

01:22:08.840 It was like everything's falling down.

01:22:10.460 The grass is growing, trees growing up through everything.

01:22:13.020 You know, just like when you find old logging camp in the woods, you'll find the stove

01:22:16.420 and the.

01:22:16.780 Yeah, totally.

01:22:17.260 All the stuff in the tree growing up through the, through everything.

01:22:20.500 Find a stone wall in a cellar hole.

01:22:22.220 Yeah, a stone wall in a cellar hole with a, you know, 200-year-old tree in the middle

01:22:25.980 of it, you know?

01:22:26.540 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:27.000 So I think Mother Nature, I think, I think Mother Nature will recover.

01:22:30.440 It's just an aesthetic thing for me, I would say.

01:22:33.180 You know, I don't like the washouts, though, the erosion.

01:22:36.140 I don't like building, you know, you shouldn't be building roads up mountains anyway.

01:22:39.740 Sometimes you have to, to get to the next town or economic reasons or, but yeah, just for

01:22:46.600 recreation, build a road up the side of a mountain that causes a shitload of erosion.

01:22:50.700 No, that's not a good idea.

01:22:52.620 Yeah.

01:22:52.760 I did that kind of work, too.

01:22:53.860 I did that for years.

01:22:54.820 And I, oh my, I wouldn't have what I have right now if it wasn't for the ski area.

01:22:58.340 You know, I worked up there for doing landscaping and carpentry and stuff for years, excavation.

01:23:04.080 So I, I feel bad bashing it, but it'd be like if you worked for a company that installed

01:23:09.620 windmills and you made a lot of money doing it, say you were a truck driver for the company

01:23:14.680 that put in windmills.

01:23:16.220 I mean, you can still hate windmills, right?

01:23:18.560 And still enjoy your job.

01:23:19.760 I don't know.

01:23:20.300 I can't relate.

01:23:21.140 I mean, it's not like I worked for media companies that lied to the population of the

01:23:24.400 country I was born in, like justified pointless wars.

01:23:28.340 And through fear.

01:23:30.720 But you still love those media companies.

01:23:31.920 Oh, I love them.

01:23:32.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:33.360 I don't judge at all.

01:23:34.460 Right, yeah.

01:23:35.080 So we all get stuck in the, of the hypocrisy of, you know, nobody's above hypocrisy.

01:23:41.740 That's for sure.

01:23:42.260 That's for sure.

01:23:43.260 You know, we all get stuck, you know, the guy that, but then you see the people that

01:23:46.980 go skiing with the, the Subaru and the Save the Planet Earth sticker, but they're heading

01:23:53.520 up to go skiing.

01:23:54.500 Now that bothers me.

01:23:56.040 You know, that's, that's, that's blatant hypocrisy there.

01:24:01.460 And they'll say, oh, there's solar panels on the side of the, on the chairlift.

01:24:05.460 So the chairlift solar power, they should know better than that.

01:24:08.460 The solar panel on the building going into the chairlift, it might power the guy's coffee

01:24:13.160 pot at best.

01:24:14.200 Yeah, right.

01:24:15.160 You know, it's not, they should know better than that.

01:24:18.360 I don't think so.

01:24:18.640 And it's our fault for letting, it's not, it's not those, it's not, those people have

01:24:22.300 very good intentions, although we call, I call them moon bats.

01:24:25.680 Yeah.

01:24:25.920 All the moon bat people, you know who I'm talking about.

01:24:28.140 I do.

01:24:28.460 You know, you know, but I'm not putting them down.

01:24:30.800 They have the best intentions in the world.

01:24:33.360 They really honestly think that what they're doing is, is great.

01:24:38.080 I think they do feel deep down inside because they're not, those people aren't getting rich

01:24:41.720 off it.

01:24:42.480 Right.

01:24:42.740 You know, it's the politicians, it's the, it's the politicians that are getting rich

01:24:46.640 off it.

01:24:46.920 But those people are just kind of blind and naive and they really do believe that what

01:24:53.880 they're fighting for is, is, is true.

01:24:57.380 And they're just, and it's not their fault that they're in charge now.

01:25:01.100 You look at all the moon bats, you got people, you got a woman running for president right

01:25:05.220 now that I, is not qualified to teach finger painting for kindergarten kids.

01:25:09.800 Yeah.

01:25:10.220 I mean.

01:25:10.820 Yeah.

01:25:12.400 It's your fault and my fault that she's in charge.

01:25:15.060 It's his fault that she's in charge.

01:25:16.660 It's not the rest of the moon ball, moon bats people in charge.

01:25:19.460 We let that happen.

01:25:21.880 We're the responsible adults in charge of all this stuff.

01:25:25.520 You know, we let that happen.

01:25:27.840 We let those people take over.

01:25:29.640 I mean, we tried our best to stop it, but we didn't do good enough.

01:25:33.500 Okay.

01:25:33.940 Now they're teaching.

01:25:34.960 I don't have kids, so I probably shouldn't say this, but they're teaching, you know, whatever

01:25:39.680 a sophomore in high school to get gender surgery.

01:25:44.020 And, you know, like, how did that happen?

01:25:47.340 Where did we, where did we take our eye off the ball long enough for, you know, how did

01:25:52.500 we take our eye off the ball long enough to let Cam, Camela, what's her, Camala?

01:25:58.080 Carmela.

01:25:58.580 You know how to say it.

01:25:59.360 I don't.

01:25:59.760 I don't know.

01:26:00.240 She doesn't know how to say it.

01:26:01.260 She says it a couple different.

01:26:02.340 I'm going to go with Campuchia, but whatever.

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01:26:40.220 What, how did we screw up?

01:26:49.680 We tried, you fought, you fought your best.

01:26:52.720 Yeah.

01:26:52.920 You know, you, you were on the news every night.

01:26:55.600 I did my best by bad mouthing her and everybody, everybody at the chainsaw shop did their best,

01:27:01.820 but she still, she still won.

01:27:04.920 Yeah.

01:27:05.640 You know, and how did she win?

01:27:06.960 Because we didn't, we didn't, we didn't try hard enough.

01:27:10.560 We didn't fight hard enough.

01:27:12.280 We tried it January 6th.

01:27:13.920 That was a like, okay, that was a very, you know, that was it.

01:27:18.740 We, I called you that day.

01:27:20.300 That afternoon.

01:27:21.040 I'm like, freaking finally.

01:27:22.980 I was getting my hair cut.

01:27:24.960 I'll never forget it.

01:27:25.800 And maybe you called me and you're like, you watching this?

01:27:28.120 It's the greatest fucking thing I've ever seen.

01:27:29.760 I love it.

01:27:30.520 Yeah.

01:27:30.800 They're sitting in a chair.

01:27:32.440 Yeah.

01:27:32.720 You were the only one who was excited about that.

01:27:35.080 And I was ashamed that I wasn't excited about it because you're absolutely right.

01:27:38.660 Right.

01:27:38.980 It's the people's house.

01:27:40.220 Yeah.

01:27:40.600 What, are you joking?

01:27:41.800 Yeah.

01:27:41.960 The crime is going into a building that you own?

01:27:44.460 Right.

01:27:45.340 That's not a crime.

01:27:46.300 Yeah.

01:27:46.540 You guys have totally fucked up life as we know it.

01:27:50.720 Yeah.

01:27:51.080 In this country, a nice country to live in, you know, and, and you've twisted it all sideways

01:27:57.040 and you've got it all fucked up.

01:27:58.620 And, you know, yeah, we got to take, it's the, we got to put the adults back in charge.

01:28:06.640 Okay.

01:28:06.900 You, okay.

01:28:07.380 You guys have had your fun.

01:28:09.000 Yeah.

01:28:09.420 You know, go, go.

01:28:10.900 We got plenty of jobs for you to do.

01:28:13.320 You know, you're still going to be important.

01:28:14.780 You're still going to have a purpose.

01:28:15.960 You can be a community organizer.

01:28:18.280 You can do something like that, you know, but you don't want to give, I don't even know

01:28:21.660 if they're qualified for that because that's how they, you know, what do you do with those

01:28:26.060 people that want to let 14 year old kids get sex changes?

01:28:30.880 What, what, what can you do with that person?

01:28:34.420 What would you, I'm not religious at all, but that's definitely the mark of the mark of

01:28:39.180 the devil or the, whatever they call it.

01:28:42.660 What would you do with them?

01:28:44.260 I don't know.

01:28:45.620 I mean, you've supervised a lot of them and there's a lot of people giving into it.

01:28:49.940 Like people that you would never suspect giving into that.

01:28:52.480 Well, it's not that bad.

01:28:53.600 So what the drag queen story hour in kindergarten, what does a kindergarten kid know?

01:28:58.760 No, it's pretty bad.

01:28:59.920 I don't care if a transgender person reads a story to my kid, they can babysit my kid.

01:29:04.900 I don't care if they're transgender, that's fine.

01:29:06.700 But the way that they act with the boobs hanging out and the sexualized dancing and all that.

01:29:13.400 No, I don't care what gender you are.

01:29:15.120 It's got nothing to do with transgender.

01:29:16.260 You don't act that way around kids or, you know.

01:29:19.940 I don't go around.

01:29:21.540 I'm not going to go have a, it's the doggy style society, people.

01:29:26.060 We're going to have a parade.

01:29:27.500 All the people that like to do it doggy style, we're just going to have a parade.

01:29:30.580 That'd be most people.

01:29:32.180 You know, we're not going to do that.

01:29:34.640 You don't do those kind of, you don't do a transgender sexual parade.

01:29:38.120 I've always thought that that would be the trigger for violence.

01:29:41.900 Because if someone did that shit to my kids, I'd shoot them without thinking about it.

01:29:44.160 I think it's going to come to that.

01:29:45.400 I think it's pretty.

01:29:46.040 Well, that's so ridiculous.

01:29:47.640 Like if someone, that's like, that's a form of sexual abuse on my kids.

01:29:52.300 It is.

01:29:52.460 So that's the one thing you can't allow.

01:29:54.380 You'd get beat up in the old days for doing that.

01:29:56.180 At very least.

01:29:57.000 At very least beaten up.

01:29:58.520 So, and I'm utterly opposed to violence.

01:30:01.180 As I often say, and you know me well, you know that I actually am opposed to violence.

01:30:04.660 I'm not just saying, I hate these wars, I hate all this shit.

01:30:07.520 Right.

01:30:08.060 But if there's one excuse for violence, it's sexually abusing my children.

01:30:12.620 Right.

01:30:12.780 Like, or I'm not a good dad, if I'm allowing that.

01:30:15.480 And all these people are allowing it.

01:30:17.120 It's like, what's wrong with you?

01:30:18.660 Right.

01:30:19.600 For real.

01:30:20.600 Right.

01:30:21.580 What is wrong with people?

01:30:23.500 Yeah, it's, how did it, that, and people, the good people are giving up.

01:30:28.680 They're just saying, well, I don't know if they don't want to, I've heard people say,

01:30:33.260 like, you know, how can you let your kids do that?

01:30:35.060 Well, all the rest of the kids are doing it, and they're all talking about that.

01:30:39.160 And there are certain things that kids do that you, like, you scold your kid for it,

01:30:44.220 but okay, all kids are going to do that.

01:30:45.740 They're going to steal your Playboy magazine, you know.

01:30:48.240 They're going to look at stuff like that, that, you know, that's just, you punish them

01:30:52.140 for it.

01:30:52.560 But I think that they want to fit in.

01:30:55.900 Like, I think there might be so many of those type of people now that people don't want

01:31:00.680 to lose their family members.

01:31:01.840 Well, that is true.

01:31:03.340 You know, so they don't want to become disconnected with their family, because they love their

01:31:06.460 family.

01:31:07.640 So, like, okay, I'm, there's five people in the family that think the way I do, so-called

01:31:13.580 normal thinking, and then the rest of them think it's okay to get gender surgery at 14

01:31:21.380 years old.

01:31:22.840 You know, you're outnumbered in your family.

01:31:25.540 I think the colleges brainwashed those.

01:31:27.580 Do you think it comes from colleges?

01:31:28.920 I think it does.

01:31:29.480 I don't know.

01:31:30.960 When you were at Harvard, was it crazy?

01:31:32.980 I went to college for a year.

01:31:34.940 For what?

01:31:36.040 I went to study forest.

01:31:37.260 I didn't do too good.

01:31:38.360 I was young and-

01:31:39.840 Forestry?

01:31:40.880 Forestry, yeah.

01:31:41.540 I mean, I did good in school.

01:31:42.800 I was fine.

01:31:43.340 I just didn't like going to college.

01:31:44.760 I didn't, I don't know.

01:31:46.520 I didn't fit in.

01:31:47.880 I drank back then, partying young, you know, that kind of stuff.

01:31:52.780 So, you know, didn't, and I was working too.

01:31:55.080 I enjoyed working.

01:31:56.100 When I went to college, I worked for the logging company in town, and I enjoyed it.

01:32:00.160 I drove trucks.

01:32:00.980 I drove skitters, and I liked it.

01:32:03.120 I liked getting up at five in the morning and going to work.

01:32:05.800 I really did.

01:32:06.440 I enjoyed it.

01:32:08.060 You know, it was, it brings, it still does, brings pleasure to me.

01:32:10.980 I really, I really enjoyed it.

01:32:12.740 Yeah, so I didn't do, I didn't, I had a lady, was she a English teacher, I believe, and I

01:32:22.140 did a, I was kind of messing with her, but I, sociology, and I did a report on John Wayne

01:32:30.700 or John Wayne movies.

01:32:32.580 We had to be real fancy about, but I used John Wayne movies as my base, and I said, how great

01:32:37.700 John Wayne, well, everybody loves John Wayne.

01:32:39.380 Who doesn't like John Wayne?

01:32:40.300 And in front of the class, she did a thing on how John Wayne was a racist, and I'm looking

01:32:48.000 at her, and I'm like, what, I don't even know what you're, I was already, I was 25 years

01:32:54.240 old, I had been around a little bit, you know, lived in the service and stuff, I was already

01:32:59.280 out of the army, and I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, lady.

01:33:02.740 She goes, oh yeah, it's, you know, it's proven.

01:33:05.840 And then she gives me all this stuff that probably came from the 70s or 60s, all this

01:33:11.640 data about, you know, how those kind of movies in Hollywood was racist in the old days, and

01:33:16.700 I'm like, I don't know, I've lived with, you know, people of all color, and I never got

01:33:22.140 the idea that John Wayne was a racist, or was racist, or watching a John Wayne movie was

01:33:27.140 racist, or, you know, I used to, I had, you know, people of color, my roommates in the

01:33:35.160 service, and we would sit around and watch John Wayne movies, you know, and nobody had

01:33:38.680 walk out in outrage, you know, so I don't know what those, so then I was like, okay, this

01:33:43.560 is what's going on here, you know, and she wanted me to print all my stuff on, I worked

01:33:49.360 at the time, she wanted me to, I was probably just being a smartass for this, because I can

01:33:53.840 be a smartass sometimes, she wanted me to print all the stuff, computers were just coming

01:33:58.680 out, like, I don't know, a word processor type thing, so you had to put everything on

01:34:03.200 a disc, and that's how she wanted you to hand in your sign, and I'm sure she was trying to

01:34:06.460 teach you how to learn computers, too, that was probably part of the deal, I didn't have

01:34:10.100 a computer, and I had to work a lot, you know, I didn't have time to stay at school and use

01:34:14.920 the computer, I would just type the stuff out at night, and I didn't own a computer, so

01:34:20.020 she says, well, you have to turn it on the disc, I said, I'd love to, I said, I don't

01:34:23.120 have a computer, I don't have time, she goes, well, there's plenty of computers in

01:34:26.200 the library, I said, I don't have time to stay and do that, when I leave here, I go

01:34:29.560 to work, and then I do my stuff at night, and then I, so she, I went to the dean, or

01:34:36.580 wasn't the dean, might have been the dean, it was a small college anyway, and I explained

01:34:43.180 it to him, and he goes, well, yeah, I said, I said, I'm paying you guys, like, you guys

01:34:47.580 work for me, you know, you're my employee, and he didn't, the dean was pretty good about

01:34:55.240 that, but that woman was mad, that teacher was mad, like, no, you guys work for me, I'm

01:35:00.280 paying, you know, it's like, I'm, when you go to college, it's, it's just like you're

01:35:05.040 paying that professor to mow you lawn, that professor works for you.

01:35:07.980 Of course.

01:35:08.580 You know, that you, you don't work for them, you know, so she, and the dean said, it's

01:35:15.040 okay, yeah, he can hand his stuff, and he took my side, because I was working, and I

01:35:19.160 was paying tuition, it was a GI bill, but I was still writing, you know, I still wrote

01:35:24.620 the check, and the check came to me, and, and so he was, and that woman did not see it

01:35:29.560 that way.

01:35:30.280 The jobless racist lady.

01:35:31.800 She did not see the fact that she works for me, she did not get that correlation, I

01:35:36.320 guess.

01:35:36.420 Tell her to whip up some dinner, and pressure wash the deck, yeah, and change oil, and rotate

01:35:41.860 the tires on my truck, yeah, yeah.

01:35:45.580 Patrick Feeney, thank you.

01:35:46.740 Thank you, sir, it was a, it was a pleasure.

01:35:48.540 It was.

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