The Tucker Carlson Show - Political Prophet Predicts the Next Phase in Iran, Trump’s War Plan, & Israel’s Plot to Sabotage It

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00:00:30.000 professor thank you very much for doing this we've we've never met i don't know a great deal

00:00:39.460 about you but i have seen a number uh of your videos in which you make remarkably accurate

00:00:44.280 predictions um so that's what i know about you and i'm impressed by that by your ability to call

00:00:51.120 events before they happen so with that in mind let me ask you where do you think this war in

00:00:56.880 Iran is going? How will it be resolved? And what are the consequences likely to be? 0.93

00:01:03.400 Well, thanks so much for inviting me, Tucker. I'm a huge fan. I've been, I'm out of your work

00:01:07.800 for a number of years now. Thank you. So I think that this war in Iran will be very similar to the 0.84

00:01:14.600 war in Ukraine, meaning that this will be drawn out, be a war of attrition. Neither side will

00:01:22.280 concede defeat even though it is in the best interest to reach a ceasefire and this will

00:01:28.640 have dramatic consequences on the global economy and this war could drag on for years and years

00:01:38.060 already we're seeing major repercussions on the global economy in that flights are being canceled

00:01:43.580 in southeast asia they ran out of fuel so they're asking people to stay at home and in a few more

00:01:50.580 And today there's a major escalation in that the Israelis struck the largest gas field in Iran and Iran retaliated by attacking energy infrastructure of the GCC and Iran has stated that its purpose, its goal, its strategy is to move oil to $200 a barrel, which will have, you know,

00:02:20.580 a really significant impact on the global economy

00:02:23.420 because the entire global economy

00:02:25.000 is based on access to cheap energy.

00:02:28.580 So unfortunately, I think that we can expect this war

00:02:31.420 to drag on for years and years.

00:02:34.520 Eventually, America will send in ground troops.

00:02:36.700 Eventually, the Strait of Hormuz will be contested.

00:02:40.220 Eventually, this will spread all across the world.

00:02:43.500 Eventually, other nations will be drawn in.

00:02:46.100 So Saudi Arabia is thinking about declaring war on Iran,

00:02:49.320 And Saudi Arabia has a neutral defense pact with Pakistan.

00:02:52.800 So Pakistan will be drawn into this war. 0.52

00:02:56.480 So things are spiraling out of control.

00:03:00.020 And just recently, Ali Larajini, who is a de facto head of the Iranian war effort, was assassinated.

00:03:09.120 And he was a primatic elder statesman in Iran who had the authority to negotiate a ceasefire now that he's gone.

00:03:18.640 there really is no more off-ramp.

00:03:20.700 So both sides are committed to a long war of attrition,

00:03:26.220 and the consequences for the entire global economy are quite dire.

00:03:31.980 That is, I wouldn't say that's the worst-case scenario.

00:03:35.760 The worst-case scenario would include a nuclear strike by one or more actors

00:03:40.220 and the destruction of the Aqsa Mosque complex in Jerusalem,

00:03:44.020 which would spark a religious war.

00:03:45.360 So that's as bad as it could get,

00:03:46.920 but you've just described one step before the worst, which is protracted, destructive,

00:03:54.500 impossible to stop. So my question is, because there are so many global players, big global

00:04:01.140 players, the US and China, I think, who would be hurt by this, why is there not an incentive to

00:04:08.340 get it settled quickly and why can't that happen right um so once this war starts it um it's it

00:04:19.460 it achieves a momentum and a logic of its own so um the united states doesn't really have an off

00:04:28.220 ramp meaning that if it um tries to negotiate a ceasefire with iran iran would ask for reparations

00:04:35.460 about $1 trillion, basically,

00:04:38.500 it would ask for the United States

00:04:40.300 to leave the Middle East permanently 0.66

00:04:42.640 to ensure its long-term survival.

00:04:45.960 If the United States were to do that,

00:04:48.480 then the GCC nations would collectively

00:04:51.440 become client states of Iran 0.89

00:04:53.120 because only Iran can guarantee their safety 0.99

00:04:55.380 as well as use of the shared Hormuz.

00:04:59.500 The GCC is the basis of the petrodollar.

00:05:02.700 So what the GCC does is it sells oil

00:05:05.280 in U.S. dollars and then recycles this money

00:05:07.400 back into the

00:05:09.380 American economy. So

00:05:11.080 if the GCC were to

00:05:13.160 abandon the petrodollar, then this would have severe

00:05:15.240 repercussions on the American

00:05:17.280 economy. Also, there would be

00:05:19.260 a chain reaction

00:05:21.440 in that Japan

00:05:23.540 and South Korea would look

00:05:25.340 at what's happened in the Middle East

00:05:27.160 and decide that the United States

00:05:29.420 can no longer guarantee

00:05:30.660 their safety. So they would have to

00:05:33.140 re-militarize and they would have spent all the resources on adapting to the possible China

00:05:39.540 threat. And then you have Europe and then Europe would look at what happened in the GCC as well as

00:05:45.920 in Southeast Asia. And they would be like, why are we fighting Russia? We want to be in our best

00:05:51.160 interest to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia as soon as possible. What this would mean, the

00:05:57.620 collapse of the U.S. dollar as a global reserve currency. Remember that America is sitting on

00:06:04.500 $39 trillion in debt. And so the American economy is a pension scheme that relies on

00:06:10.760 foreign nations to continually buy U.S. dollars. So the U.S. economy would not be able to withstand

00:06:17.440 essentially American withdrawal from the Middle East. So the Americans are stuck where they are

00:06:23.280 right now, unfortunately.

00:06:26.120 What is the Chinese perspective on this?

00:06:30.140 I mean, it seems like China has an interest

00:06:32.120 in peace in the Persian Gulf

00:06:35.880 with those seven oil-producing countries.

00:06:38.160 Why wouldn't China step in and try and settle this? 1.00

00:06:42.800 So both the United States and China

00:06:45.180 benefit from the status quo.

00:06:49.240 And China has a vested interest 0.81

00:06:51.540 in seeing a very quick solution to this war in the Middle East.

00:06:58.200 China imports about 40% of its energy needs from the GCC.

00:07:02.900 So not just Iranian oil, but also Qatari natural gas.

00:07:06.680 So as you point out, China very much wants to see,

00:07:10.120 as soon as possible, a ceasefire.

00:07:13.120 Unfortunately, it is the nature of the Chinese government 0.97

00:07:16.860 not to interfere in foreign affairs.

00:07:22.800 China doesn't really have a geopolitical framework, a grand strategy.

00:07:26.800 It really believes in global trade.

00:07:28.980 And it doesn't really have a framework for how to resolve armed conflict.

00:07:35.380 And so Chinese policemakers are really stuck.

00:07:38.480 And in fact, Chinese policemakers have come out publicly saying that they would like the carnage,

00:07:44.840 the violence in the Middle East to stop as soon as possible and for the Strait of Hormuz to open

00:07:49.780 up. But unfortunately, as I pointed out previously, when a war starts, it achieves a momentum and a

00:07:57.260 logic of its own. And it's very hard to stop a war once it starts. So if your prediction is

00:08:05.180 correct, and I pray that it's not, and I'm sure you do too, hope that you're wrong. But if you're

00:08:11.020 not wrong. Yes. And this continues to grind in the way that it is now, destroying energy

00:08:17.520 infrastructure, just really destroying the civilizations of the region and Iran and the GCC. 0.80

00:08:23.400 What does that look like in, say, two years globally? What's the effect on the global economy?

00:08:30.520 Right. So this war, it will accelerate three major trends. And nations will have to adapt

00:08:37.900 to a new reality in which energy is longer cheap and accessible.

00:08:42.260 The first major trend is de-industrialization,

00:08:46.660 meaning that right now you just have too many people living in cities.

00:08:51.580 And you can do that as long as you can import cheap energy and cheap food.

00:08:56.080 But when cheap energy and cheap food are gone,

00:08:59.080 then you need people to work the fields, to grow food for your economy.

00:09:03.640 So you have to de-industrialize and reduce your energy dependence.

00:09:07.360 That's one major trend that we should see very soon.

00:09:10.540 Second major trend we should see is re-militarization in that before we had Pax Americana, where America basically guaranteed global peace.

00:09:20.780 And America basically prevented nations from going to war against each other.

00:09:24.700 So, for example, Trump brokered a ceasefire between India and Pakistan because these two nations have much hostilities against each other.

00:09:34.640 But now that America no longer has the aura of invincibility and inability, now that the American military does not come across as almighty, then America doesn't have the power to stop kids from attacking each other on the playground anymore.

00:09:51.240 So nations have to re-militarize, especially nations like Japan, which before relied too heavily on American military protection.

00:10:01.240 Okay, so that's number two, the re-militarization of the world.

00:10:04.640 And the third major trend we should see is mercantilism, meaning that now that global trade is disrupted, nations, especially advanced industrial nations such as Japan and Germany, they need to create their own independent, self-sufficient supply chains.

00:10:21.160 Fortunately, America doesn't have this issue because the Western Hemisphere is extremely wealthy and abundant in natural resources.

00:10:29.240 is. But if you are Japan and Germany, then you have to reach out and expand your borders if you

00:10:36.280 are to maintain your industrial might. So these are the three major trends we should be seeing

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00:13:43.000 calm. I mean, we've, of course, seen this exact dynamic very famously in the last century.

00:13:49.660 And I do think Japan is the big question mark because traditionally, you know, a rising power, 1.00

00:13:56.640 a great power like China just kind of intuitively demands hegemony in its own region. Like China

00:14:04.340 controls the East. I would imagine that's the Chinese perspective. But in the way of that are

00:14:08.820 Japan, the historic enemy, and South Korea, but particularly Japan. And I know that people in

00:14:15.080 your country are very focused on Japan. So is it plausible that China allows Japan to become,

00:14:21.180 say, a nuclear armed power at this point? Right. So from the surface, it seems as though

00:14:29.920 Japan has a lot of structural weaknesses. So for example, it has an aging population. It has the 1.00

00:14:36.620 oldest population in the world. That's a huge constraint on the future growth potential of

00:14:42.720 Japan. Another problem for Japan is that it is resource dependent. It relies on imports for its

00:14:49.460 resources. And Taiwan blocks off the Strait of Malacca, right? Because Japan requires most of 0.56

00:14:57.920 its energy from the GCC for the Strait of Malacca and Taiwan will be a barrier. So if Taiwan were

00:15:03.860 to reunify with china then basically japan can be blockaded and um they could be starved um and 0.61

00:15:12.240 the other major issue with japan is its economy where for the past 30 years it's in a deflationary

00:15:18.560 spiral because of its um excessive debt debt burden so there are fundamental weaknesses to

00:15:25.120 japan but um i'm a historian and i study historical patterns and what i've seen is that the japanese

00:15:32.700 people are incredibly resilient you go back to the 13th century and the mongols admitted not once 0.88

00:15:39.180 but twice and at this time japan was very much a feudal nation divided into different fiefdoms

00:15:45.420 and they came together as a people to defeat the greatest empire in in the world at that time not

00:15:51.740 once but twice and you go to the middle of the 19th century when uh china was being carved up

00:15:58.700 by these western industrial powers and it seemed as though japan was what to be carved up as well

00:16:04.540 but the japanese engaged something called the meiji restoration and in 20 to 30 years time

00:16:10.540 they went from a feudal backward nation into an industrial power that ultimately defeated russia 0.69

00:16:16.460 in the russian japanese war of 1905 right and then you go to world war ii when american devastated

00:16:25.100 japan uh not just nuclear strikes but also the fire bombings yes so at the end of world war ii

00:16:29.980 japan was completely devastated but in like 20 years time in a generation they became the world's

00:16:34.940 greatest manufacturing power so i would not cut the japanese out there's something about their

00:16:39.180 culture that is extremely resilient um extremely entrepreneurial and i think that given crises

00:16:45.300 they will come together as a people and adapt to these challenges um and so um i if i were to bet

00:16:52.920 If you give me like a billion dollars and said in East Asia, you can invest your money either in China or Japan, or you could invest half and half.

00:17:02.140 Well, Tucker, I'll be honest with you.

00:17:03.800 I would invest all my money in Japan. 0.80

00:17:06.540 That's what a fascinating analysis.

00:17:08.940 I agree with you.

00:17:10.440 I just, I mean, intuitively, I agree with you.

00:17:13.000 But I just wonder if China can tolerate that, given the history between the two countries and the focus and just the growth of China.

00:17:20.840 Can they really allow, right in the middle of East Asia, a competing power? 0.72

00:17:27.080 Right.

00:17:27.900 So the major issue with China is that it sells itself the Middle Kingdom, 0.98

00:17:34.460 you know, the Middle Kingdom,

00:17:36.480 which is to say that the Chinese believe that they are a universe unto themselves.

00:17:40.560 What happens outside China doesn't really impact China.

00:17:44.000 So what's important is to maintain the national sovereignty of China

00:17:46.980 because it is a self-sufficient nation that has no interest in the outside world.

00:17:52.360 Japan is complete opposite in that it is an island and it requires to, 1.00

00:17:56.700 it basically needs to extract resources from other nations in order to survive as a nation.

00:18:00.800 So these are two very different mentalities where China is very much an agricultural self-sufficient nation

00:18:08.560 that is insular and conservative and Japan is an outward looking seafaring nation.

00:18:15.460 interesting so you it sounds like they they can coexist or you just said it you're not betting

00:18:21.380 against japan what about south korea which has the one of the lowest if not the lowest birth rate

00:18:27.000 in the world in contrast to north korea um and has basically modeled itself uh on the united states

00:18:34.800 i mean down to the to the most basic level the u.s pulling back from east asia is i mean that's

00:18:41.500 going to be a transformative thing i would think for south korea what happens yeah south korea is

00:18:47.980 a very precarious position um primarily because of north korea um so once the united states is

00:18:53.280 forced to withdraw from southeast asia then north korea can take the initiative and the problem with

00:18:58.600 this conflict is that seoul the largest city in south korea it's only 30 minutes away from north

00:19:05.280 Korean artillery. So in like a whole day, North Korea could flatten Seoul. And so South Korea is

00:19:12.220 in a very precarious position. Also, if you look at the economy of Seoul, of South Korea, it's a

00:19:17.780 very ossified, very corrupt system where just a few companies control the entire economy. And this

00:19:26.600 is what's led to intense competition in South Korea, which has led to the extremely low birth

00:19:33.960 rate in South Korea. So South Korea is in a very precarious position. But what I will say about

00:19:41.660 the South Koreans is that they are fanatical workers. They work really, really hard and they

00:19:49.020 have a long memory of colonial persecution from both the Chinese and the Japanese. And these are

00:19:55.500 fiercely independent people. So I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea and South Korea were

00:20:00.960 to come to a compromise at some point because both nations aspire for national unification.

00:20:08.460 And because China, Japan will be in conflict with each other, then the Korean people could 0.88

00:20:13.740 actually navigate this conflict to the benefit.

00:20:18.180 That's very smart.

00:20:19.400 I sense you're absolutely right about that.

00:20:21.700 Let me just ask you about an observation you made parenthetically a second ago, which is

00:20:25.660 because South Korea's economy is ossified and centralized,

00:20:31.600 it's a monopoly economy, its birth rate is low.

00:20:35.180 What's the connection between economic monopolies and low birth rate?

00:20:40.660 Yeah, great question.

00:20:41.760 So when you have a monopoly, what you do is you create a hierarchy, right?

00:20:45.000 Because everyone's trying to get into these companies

00:20:47.880 because these companies are the most prestigious in South Korea.

00:20:51.720 And South Korea is very much a Confucian culture where faith is everything.

00:20:55.660 So the problem, though, is how do you get into these companies?

00:21:00.760 It's a very prestigious position where everyone's trying to get in, right?

00:21:04.760 And so you usually get in through the college entrance examination, which allows you to get into prestigious university, right?

00:21:13.140 So if you are a South Korean couple, your strategy is either not to have children because you cannot afford to play this game because you need to send your kid to cram schools, get the best tutors.

00:21:27.160 Basically, force all your resources on ensuring the child does well on the college examination so that he or she can get into Samsung.

00:21:36.360 Or you can choose not to have any children because it's too expensive for you.

00:21:41.060 But if you choose to have children, you can only choose to have one kid because it's much more strategic for you to put all your resources into one kid than to spread it over three or four kids.

00:21:50.760 So that's why economic monopoly would naturally lead to a low birth rate. 0.62

00:21:57.020 So what you're saying is intense competition for resources, scarce resources, produces an incentive that results in low birth rate.

00:22:06.600 exactly because everyone sees themselves as competitors against each other and you lose

00:22:12.960 a sense of community right because you have a lot of children um because you want to contribute to

00:22:18.220 the community and grow as a nation but when you see your neighbor as your enemy then um that

00:22:23.900 reduces your incentive to have children interesting so what will be the economic

00:22:29.200 effects on china and and also on the on the rest of asia and southeast asia you know philippines

00:22:35.260 vietnam um if this energy crunch continues in the middle east the reality is that this war in the

00:22:44.800 middle east is having a severe impact already on uh the entire southeast asian economy so uh india

00:22:51.220 imports about 60 percent of its oil from the gcc pakistan also imports a majority of its oil

00:22:57.140 japan imports about 75 percent of its oil from uh the gcc china imports about 40 okay so all

00:23:03.760 these economies are being impacted and already thailand vietnam are running out of fuel um and

00:23:09.960 you go to a gas station there's just more fuel for your for your motorbike and now people are

00:23:14.780 being forced to work from from home there's there's fuel rationing um there's no jet fuel so this is

00:23:20.740 impacting all of southeast asia so the question isn't like who will be impacted because everyone's

00:23:25.600 impacted the question is who will be most resilient and the most willing to innovate and adapt to this

00:23:31.460 new reality because we're not talking about short-term war. We're talking about a long-term

00:23:35.540 change to the global economy. And I think that China will actually be the least resilient and

00:23:42.760 the least ready to adapt to this new reality because for the past 30, 40 years, China has 1.00

00:23:48.860 gotten very wealthy because of the global economy where it imports cheap energy and exports

00:23:56.500 manufactured goods. And the entire Chinese economy is currently based on this model.

00:24:00.720 Now, for the past 20 years, China has been moving towards a consumer-based economy and more of an innovation-based economy, AI.

00:24:09.440 But unfortunately, AI itself is dependent on cheap energy.

00:24:12.960 And Chinese consumers are refusing to spend money for a variety of reasons, primarily because they are not that optimistic about China's growth in the future.

00:24:24.480 So Chinese household savings is about 4%.

00:24:27.460 And unless the government is able to get Chinese to spend more money, then it'll be very hard for the Chinese economy to move towards a consumer-based economy.

00:24:36.380 So all of Southeast Asia will be impacted, and I think China will be impacted the most in the long term.

00:24:42.340 Maybe not in the short term, because China still has access to Iranian oil.

00:24:45.580 Scott Besson announced today that they will lift sanctions on Iranian oil in order to make sure the global economy is not too impacted by this war.

00:24:53.240 But in the long term, the Chinese economy, it is now much too focused on export and manufacturing in order to shift to a much more diversified economy.

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00:27:11.400 So it's not just the West that is locked into the current arrangement.

00:27:16.260 where we consume, the East produces. 0.63

00:27:19.480 It's the East, they're locked into producing. 0.99

00:27:21.700 So this is a massive reorientation for everybody,

00:27:24.700 I think is what you're saying.

00:27:26.020 Yeah, and I would say, look,

00:27:28.180 the East is going to be much more impacted than the West

00:27:30.560 because at the end of the day,

00:27:31.720 the Western Hemisphere, America,

00:27:33.940 I mean, the wealth in the Western Hemisphere

00:27:36.480 is just tremendous.

00:27:39.300 I mean, the Western Hemisphere is self-sufficient,

00:27:41.380 but that's not true for Southeast Asia.

00:27:43.420 Southeast Asia is very dependent on energy from overseas.

00:27:48.700 How does this affect Africa?

00:27:52.380 Right.

00:27:53.620 So with this war in Ukraine and with this war in the GCC, experts are saying that in the worst case scenario, you could have famine in Africa.

00:28:06.440 because so much of food and energy sustains the African economy.

00:28:15.000 And so, yeah.

00:28:19.200 Okay, just moving west now, what about the GCC?

00:28:24.020 What does that look like in five years?

00:28:27.440 Right.

00:28:28.280 So, unfortunately, the biggest loser of this war,

00:28:34.040 regardless of how it turns out, okay,

00:28:35.780 Even if Americans were to win, the biggest loser is the GCC because for the past 30, 40 years, the GCC is basically built on a mirage because it's essentially a desert with very little access to fresh water and very little agriculture.

00:28:53.600 And so it couldn't really sustain a large population.

00:28:56.360 But with the petrodollar and with American military protection, then the GCC nations felt free to invest in technology that allowed them to grow the population, right?

00:29:08.740 So these desalination plants, modern infrastructure.

00:29:12.780 So you sort of saw this massive growth in Dubai, in Qatar, in Riyadh.

00:29:17.740 And what this war has done is shattered this mirage and revealed the limitations of the GCC.

00:29:28.580 So, for example, look at Dubai.

00:29:30.160 So Dubai, for many years, has prided itself as this safe, very cosmopolitan, very open tax haven.

00:29:38.760 So a lot of wealthy people immigrated to Dubai.

00:29:42.400 but because of this war

00:29:45.000 and we're talking about

00:29:46.220 like a few drones

00:29:47.140 hitting hotels

00:29:47.880 it's really shattered

00:29:49.900 the image of Dubai

00:29:51.100 and once you shatter

00:29:53.300 this mirage

00:29:54.200 you can never ever

00:29:55.800 rebuild it again

00:29:58.820 so the idea of Dubai

00:30:01.120 as like the future

00:30:02.480 New York or London

00:30:03.640 the financial capital

00:30:04.700 of the GCC

00:30:05.340 this mirage has evaporated

00:30:07.420 Iran

00:30:09.380 in five years

00:30:11.360 so iran is being devastated right now um so the israelis and americans are attacking um critical

00:30:23.720 infrastructure so the israelis uh attack the largest gas field in um iran the desalination

00:30:31.600 plant uh was destroyed but we also have to remember what is being hidden from us and what's

00:30:37.840 being hidden from us is the fact that the Israelis and Americans are trying to destroy the capacity 1.00

00:30:44.300 of the state to govern the nation, basically destroy the state's monopoly on violence.

00:30:50.980 And so what we're hearing are attacks on police officers, on military installations,

00:30:56.680 and there's talk of special forces going into Iran and starting to fund dissonant groups,

00:31:02.900 like the Kurds and the Kulakis in Southeast Iran. 0.68

00:31:08.760 So no matter what happens in this war,

00:31:12.140 it's going to be very hard for the government

00:31:14.640 to maintain national control,

00:31:18.640 even if they were to survive this war.

00:31:22.000 And also another huge issue for Iran 0.67

00:31:24.740 is that for the past few years,

00:31:26.740 it suffered drought issues.

00:31:29.320 So its agriculture was heavily impacted.

00:31:31.300 They were actually talking about moving terrain, like moving these millions of people out of the city of Tehran because their capital can no longer sustain this large population.

00:31:42.220 So this war will only exaggerate these environmental issues, especially with the attacks on critical civil infrastructure, for example, dams, reservoirs, desailation plants.

00:31:55.900 And it's going to take years and years for Iran to recover from this war as a nation.

00:32:04.240 You have basically the storing of ethnic sentiments.

00:32:09.000 You have the destruction of a state's capacity to deliver basic services.

00:32:13.040 But the good news for Iran is that it seems as though they will be able to maintain control over the Shri of Hormuz. 1.00

00:32:19.860 And that is critical because now they're able to charge a toll on anyone who uses the Strait of Hormuz.

00:32:26.380 And they talk about 10%, which should generate about $800 billion a year annually for Iran.

00:32:32.280 So the nation will be destroyed in this war.

00:32:36.300 But if it's able to harness the pride of the Persian people, if it's able to unify the Persian people,

00:32:45.040 and it's able to leverage the resources

00:32:47.540 of the Strait of Hormuz effectively,

00:32:49.640 then we can expect Iran to rise again 1.00

00:32:52.720 in like 10 to 20 years' time.

00:32:55.320 Where is Israel in a few years from now?

00:33:00.400 So if you look at the main beneficiary of this war,

00:33:04.680 it is Israel.

00:33:06.140 Because Israel has an ambition

00:33:08.400 called the Greater Israel Project,

00:33:10.120 which is what they believe that their God, Yahweh,

00:33:13.020 promised to their ancestor, Abraham.

00:33:16.760 And so they believe that Yahweh promised Abraham

00:33:20.860 all the land from the Nile in Egypt to Euphrates in Iraq.

00:33:25.900 If you look at the entire map,

00:33:27.060 it also extends to Anatolia, which is southern Turkey,

00:33:29.800 and even into Saudi Arabia.

00:33:31.840 So if you look at what's happening,

00:33:34.140 well, it's convenient in that the GCC is being destroyed.

00:33:37.880 Saudi Arabia will probably be drawn into this war.

00:33:39.500 It is possible Turkey will be drawn into this war

00:33:42.720 as well. And this war allows Israel to remake the Middle East in its own image. Also, if you think 0.89

00:33:52.740 about it, according to game theory, the main constraint to Israel achieving the greater Israel

00:33:58.700 project is actually not Iran, but America, because America guarantees the military safety and

00:34:05.940 protection of the GCC, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Buran, UAE, these nations. And so if

00:34:13.820 Israel has become dominant, it's become the hegemon of the Middle East, it needs to figure 1.00

00:34:18.900 out how to remove America from the equation. And quite honestly, this war has shown the limitations

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00:34:31.620 want this war. American people don't even understand why America is in the Middle East. 0.80

00:34:35.940 And so it's very possible that regardless of what happens in this war, America is forced to withdraw from the Middle East, in which case Israel is able to achieve its greater Israel project. 0.66

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00:35:45.120 It was clear to me that that was part of the motive, that Israel understood this and roped the United States into this war in order to get the United States out, 0.78

00:35:57.620 in order to hurt the United States and get the United States out of the Middle East.

00:36:01.620 Do you think that will be successful?

00:36:06.080 I think the way this war is going, this plan will work. 1.00

00:36:11.960 And the reason why is the American military has not fought a real war for decades.

00:36:18.660 2003, this war in Iraq was not a real war because Saddam Hussein basically gave up.

00:36:24.500 He didn't have air defense because those economic sanctions had destroyed his economy.

00:36:29.940 And his logic was this.

00:36:31.620 let the americans invade they can't possibly invade because if they destroy us that would make

00:36:37.240 iran uh which has hostilities against america the regional power so why would america do this

00:36:44.100 it is self-defeating it is not logical it is not rational so i'm not worried about them um

00:36:50.380 attacking me and he was surprised when they did attack because it was not logical it's not rational

00:36:55.860 But they did attack. It was a cakewalk. It took about two weeks. America achieved air supremacy very quickly. And they rolled into Baghdad very quickly and toppled the regime. So that was a very quick and easy war that fit the American military doctrine of shock and awe.

00:37:16.680 Iran is completely different.

00:37:18.860 And the American military does not want to fight this war because they've wargamed this countless times.

00:37:25.340 And each war game, they discover that they lose because the American military, it's too bulky.

00:37:32.480 It's not as nimble and resilient as the Iranian military.

00:37:36.440 And we're seeing that play out right now where you have these devastating carriers,

00:37:40.620 Abraham Lincoln and Gerald Ford threatening Iran, but not actually doing anything because they're afraid of getting too close to the coast of Iran because then they become susceptible to drone strikes as well as hypersonics.

00:37:54.320 So the Iranians have been preparing this for 20 plus years.

00:37:58.100 They know the entire American playbook and they have the perfect strategy to counter the American playbook. 0.58

00:38:06.200 So America will have a really tough time winning this war.

00:38:09.660 The great problem, okay, the big question now is, will America send in ground troops?

00:38:15.940 Because once America sends in ground troops, then it becomes part committed.

00:38:20.000 It's mission creep, some cause fallacy, it'll be like Vietnam over. 1.00

00:38:24.240 So right now there's talk of 2,500 Marines who've coming in from Okinawa.

00:38:31.180 They'll be in the Middle East in about seven days time.

00:38:33.360 um and the talk is the rumor is and i don't know but the rumor is the intention is for for them to

00:38:40.520 karg island which is the main oil depot for iran so iran exports nine percent of its oil from that

00:38:47.460 facility the island and if the marines were to take it it would be great optics you know trump

00:38:53.700 would look good on tv it would be a great boost for the for american morale the problem is that

00:39:00.880 You can take it, but you can't hold it because it's too close to the Iranian coast,

00:39:05.240 and the Iranians can attack with artillery, with drones, okay?

00:39:08.460 Which means that you now have to take on the coast.

00:39:10.760 You have to occupy the coast and create a foreign operating base. 1.00

00:39:14.580 But then you're exposed to the Dagoros Mountains, right?

00:39:17.240 Which means that you're now forced to occupy the mountains as well.

00:39:20.540 So it's mission creep.

00:39:21.220 It's exactly like Vietnam, where in 1965, 3,000 Marines went into Dag Ngan to occupy an air base.

00:39:30.880 And like four or five years later, you have half a million troops, right?

00:39:34.740 So it started off as a very limited, self-defined mission, but then it just balloons.

00:39:41.620 So America could find itself in this situation very quickly.

00:39:45.100 If you were the commander-in-chief of the United States, what would you do at this point as of today?

00:39:54.540 Commander-in-chief meaning Donald Trump?

00:39:56.500 Yeah.

00:39:57.040 You get to make the decisions.

00:39:58.140 What does America do next if it's acting in its own interest, if it's trying to preserve its power and wealth at this point, what does it do?

00:40:08.800 Well, first of all, I would acknowledge that all these events are interconnected, right?

00:40:12.800 So the strict war of China, this war in Ukraine, this war in the Middle East, it's all interconnected because American empire, it's too overstretched and it has its fingers on everything.

00:40:25.800 And so it allows its enemies to provoke it into these never ending wars.

00:40:31.860 So what I would do is basically sit down everyone, including Russia, China, Iran, and say, it's time for a new world order where we are partners in this relationship.

00:40:46.060 Before America was a hegemon, before the US dollar was a world reserve currency. 0.77

00:40:49.840 But now what we want to do is open a dialogue where everyone is respected, where America is no longer the bully, but a willing partner in creating a new economic order that benefits everyone and not just a few.

00:41:07.180 i i think that's the the wisest possible advice and probably the only path that preserves

00:41:13.980 civilization um and but they're the one country standing in the way of that is israel which

00:41:19.260 is the only beneficiary of this war as you just said i think that's true can you think of another

00:41:24.100 beneficiary other than israel of this war well russia benefits right because russia is trying

00:41:29.860 to win this war in ukraine that's correct and um and america is forced to lift oil sanctions and so

00:41:35.300 So now Russia is now able to take all these war profits, right, and then help the Iranians, finance the Iranians in the struggle against the Americans and the Israelis. 0.53

00:41:43.440 So the Russians also benefit tremendously from this war. 0.93

00:41:45.500 But fair point. Israel has to be constrained by the United States in order to do what you just recommended it do.

00:41:54.220 Is that possible? Does the American president have the authority to control its client state?

00:42:00.760 um so if you look at the domestic situation in israel um israel no longer behaves rationally

00:42:11.560 it is sort of overtaken by eschatological fever right so if you look at uh videos coming out of

00:42:18.600 israel there are rabbis going around saying that this war in the middle east even though it's

00:42:23.520 destroying Tel Aviv, it's good for us because this will lead to the coming of our Messiah. 1.00

00:42:32.420 So they believe that it is when Israel is under the most strain, when the very existence

00:42:41.320 of Israel is threatened, then God will intervene because the Jewish people will come together

00:42:48.540 as a nation again and commit themselves, renew their faith in God. And once God sees the

00:42:56.180 blind, trusting, absolute faith of the Jewish people, then he will save his people by sending

00:43:02.020 his Messiah, who will then redeem the Jewish people. So another thing this is secular, 0.58

00:43:10.920 temporal matters don't really matter. This war in the Middle East, not an issue. What matters is

00:43:16.660 divinity. What matters is our relationship with God. So what matters is faith. If nuclear bombs

00:43:23.000 go flying, it doesn't really matter. What's so interesting is that 25 years ago at 9-11,

00:43:31.800 whatever you think of how that happened and why, there was, I saw it personally,

00:43:38.200 a political Islam. There were Wahhabists. There were a lot of Islamic radicals around the world.

00:43:45.380 And for a bunch of reasons over 25 years, that hasn't disappeared.

00:43:49.260 There still exist Islamic radicals, but it's not an important political force anymore.

00:43:55.680 At the same time, as Islam in general has become much more moderate, and the GCC is the most obvious example of this, there has been a rise of Jewish Wahhabism and evangelical Christian Wahhabism, so to speak. 0.60

00:44:12.220 I mean, you've seen this eschatological extremism among some American Protestants, Christians, and some Israeli and American Jews.

00:44:23.200 How did that happen?

00:44:25.060 What is that?

00:44:27.080 Right.

00:44:27.600 So, first of all, I don't think we can ever overestimate the influence of eschatology in American politics.

00:44:37.160 So I'll give you an example where about a quarter of Americans are evangelicals, and a lot of them are Christian Zionists. 0.58

00:44:46.260 So they believe that Israel is crucial, the linchpin to achieving God's plan and the return of Jesus.

00:44:56.640 And so a very prominent figure that you probably know very well is John Hadji, who runs something called the Christians United for Israel.

00:45:02.720 It's 7 million members.

00:45:06.000 And these are the people who are financing a lot of the conflict in the Middle East, in Israel, because they're the ones who are funding West Bank settlements.

00:45:16.800 And so Christian Zionism, it is an extremely powerful political force in America.

00:45:24.320 So your question is, how did this happen?

00:45:27.940 And the issue is that this is a plan that has been in motion for centuries.

00:45:36.920 And it's a very complicated history, but it involves different religious groups among the Jews.

00:45:46.200 Subtinent Frankis, Shabbat Lubavitch, which you've talked about. 0.82

00:45:49.260 But it also involves the Freemasons, the Knights Templars, the Rosicrucians.

00:45:53.260 It involves the Jesuits.

00:45:54.400 So you have these different secret societies, different religious organizations working together for the centuries to achieve this plan for the end of the world, which heralds the Messianic Age, okay?

00:46:09.520 And there are different components of this plan, but the basic components are, one is the creation of the nation state of Israel, which happened in 1948.

00:46:19.540 And then you need to have the building of the Third Temple, which requires the destruction of the Al-Aqsaq Mosque, which could happen during this war, given what we've seen so far.

00:46:34.120 So the Israelis have closed off the Al-Aqsaq Mosque, as well as other religious sites like the Church of Holy Sepulchre to tourists these past few days.

00:46:46.780 There's rumors that for the past two years, the Israelis have been conducting these archaeological digs under the Isaac mosque to basically destroy the foundations of the mosque so that they can conduct a controlled demolition of the mosque and blame it on a missile strike from the Iranians.

00:47:05.100 And there's actually talk among the Israelis of using this plan to ignite a war between the Arabs and the Persians.

00:47:13.340 So the Aleksic Mosque needs to be destroyed for the third temple. 1.00

00:47:16.180 They also talk about this war of Gog and Magog between Israel and the entire world. 0.77

00:47:22.740 Then the coming of the Jewish Messiah, the creation of the greater Israel project, the return of all Jews from the diaspora.

00:47:32.480 So there are different components to this plan.

00:47:35.980 If you just observe geopolitical events, we're seeing these events converge together today.

00:47:42.240 I mean, all these events are playing out.

00:47:44.560 So it seems as though there are these very powerful shadow forces working behind the scenes.

00:47:49.500 We don't know who they are, but it seems as though they're able to control geopolitics in a certain manner as to fulfill their eschatological script.

00:48:01.560 What role do you think Donald Trump plays in this?

00:48:04.940 um that's a really hard question to um answer so so let's look at different possibilities okay

00:48:14.860 the first possibility is that he's been employed as an actor and he's just following a script

00:48:22.020 he doesn't really know where this movie is going he's just doing his part but he's been he's

00:48:27.780 manipulated behind the scenes by people around him and you know um when reporters asked him like

00:48:34.560 why is this war in iran happening he did say that his advisors which includes sivikov jared

00:48:41.320 kushner peter heksev marco rubio told him that the iranians were so close to getting a nuclear

00:48:47.900 weapon and that the iranians were attacked first and so i was basically um misled and i think i

00:48:54.080 think that's probably true in that uh trump surrounds himself with certain people that have

00:48:58.540 a certain political eschatological agenda um so that's one possibility that he's just he's just

00:49:04.600 an actor another possibility is that he himself has a mezzanine calling okay and what i mean by

00:49:13.900 that is if you go back to 20 uh during 2021 he was politically dead right because during six

00:49:23.620 riots happened. He was impeached twice. And then after he left office, there was lawfare

00:49:30.700 conducted against him and he went bankrupt. So the entire world went against him. But now he's

00:49:39.540 president of the United States. And so how would he personally understand this? I think a lot of it

00:49:43.960 is God has asked him to serve. There's a call to serve and he has to fulfill a mission. What this

00:49:50.880 mission is okay what this mission is whether it's to save israel whether to save america

00:49:55.860 whether it's a part of a grander scheme only he in his heart knows and i think no one except him

00:50:03.020 knows okay so i think that's another uh possibility and the third possibility is that this is all

00:50:09.000 israel is doing nanayahu is the one who's forced him into um this sort of situation because it's 0.90

00:50:15.920 attack first. And Marco Rubio

00:50:18.200 said this, where, you know what?

00:50:20.140 We wanted these negotiations,

00:50:22.500 but the Israelis were planning to

00:50:23.900 attack. If they attacked, the Iranians 1.00

00:50:26.060 would be compelled to attack both

00:50:28.040 the Americans and the Israelis. And we did not 1.00

00:50:30.080 want to put our soldiers in harm's way, so we

00:50:32.000 attacked with the Israelis. Okay? 0.75

00:50:33.980 So it's possible this is all Netanyahu 0.86

00:50:35.460 and all its machine nations.

00:50:38.140 And another fourth possibility is

00:50:39.940 they have

00:50:42.320 co-opted him. Like, there's blackmail

00:50:43.920 on him there's um and he has actually no choice but to do what he says because um he's compromised

00:50:51.280 in a certain way and maybe his family is under threat so all four are possibilities and quite

00:50:56.000 honestly i have no idea which possibility is the most correct yeah i don't i don't think i don't

00:51:01.300 think anybody does and i've really tried to keep you know speculation to a minimum you always want

00:51:06.580 to believe that people's motives are transparent that they state why they're doing what they're

00:51:09.740 doing. But of course you can never know what's inside a man, right? Even in yourself, it's hard

00:51:14.980 to know your own motives very often. So I think that's a, that's a wise take. What happens to

00:51:20.960 North America, United States, and I do want to include Mexico and Canada. We don't think a lot

00:51:25.820 about those countries, but they're both massive land masses and they have big populations and

00:51:30.380 they're our neighbors. And so if the world is reorienting, I think you need to think in terms

00:51:34.660 of continents rather than just nation states. What, what does that look like in three or four

00:51:39.060 years right so um from a geopolitical perspective if america is forced to retreat back into the

00:51:46.360 western hemisphere it needs to worry about um resources and so it is in the best interest of 1.00

00:51:53.200 america to eventually uh take over and colonize both canada and mexico yes mexico for its labor 0.74

00:52:00.780 supply canada for um its resources you know canada's probably the worst country in the world

00:52:05.940 And so from a geopolitical perspective, if the world is retreating into self-sufficiency, if there's mercantilism, if there's trade barriers, then America has absolutely no choice but to ensure its own supply networks.

00:52:22.960 And that means eventually taking over Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Latin America, Cuba, Venezuela.

00:52:32.000 So America doesn't really have much choice in this matter.

00:52:36.340 At the same time, what we're seeing is that this war, as well as other events, are causing political fissures in America, especially between left and right.

00:52:45.080 So witness what happened in Minneapolis in January, right?

00:52:48.340 And so we can expect that as this war continues, and there's a strong possibility that Donald Trump will call up a national draft in order to ensure the manpower to fight this war, then you will have rioting on the streets.

00:53:04.140 You have massive violence, in which case the National Guard is deployed.

00:53:07.200 There's a plan to deploy the National Guard to all major American cities by April.

00:53:11.020 And so, unfortunately, America is probably going to suffer a long, many years of sectarian violence.

00:53:18.960 Not a full-fledged civil war,

00:53:21.440 but maybe something along the lines

00:53:24.180 of the Troubles in Ireland.

00:53:28.980 I'm not sure if you've seen this terrible movie

00:53:30.540 called One Battle After Another.

00:53:33.080 It's just a terrible movie, by the way.

00:53:34.460 But it gives you insight

00:53:37.040 into what a civil war might look like

00:53:39.040 where you have these insertion groups

00:53:40.240 fighting against the state.

00:53:43.260 So, yeah.

00:53:44.880 But you expect the United States to hang together

00:53:47.300 as a coherent nation state?

00:53:51.220 Listen, Tucker,

00:53:52.380 the United States is the greatest nation in the world.

00:53:55.520 The people are open, generous, entrepreneurial, energetic.

00:53:59.620 The resources of America are infinite.

00:54:02.940 America is a kind of a fortress

00:54:04.400 so that it's protected by two oceans.

00:54:07.280 America doesn't have a peer competitor

00:54:08.820 in North America and South America.

00:54:14.080 And so, I mean, America,

00:54:16.360 regardless of what happens,

00:54:18.200 America will still come out doing pretty well 1.00

00:54:20.340 just because of the pure energy

00:54:22.360 and creativity of its people.

00:54:26.260 See, you mentioned Canada.

00:54:28.180 Most Americans don't even know the capital of Canada.

00:54:31.360 Canada does not appear on their radar,

00:54:34.140 doesn't figure in their thoughts.

00:54:36.180 But you described it as probably, quote,

00:54:38.280 probably the richest country in the world.

00:54:39.920 I think that's objectively true.

00:54:41.660 And yet Canada is not a rich country.

00:54:43.980 In fact, it's getting poorer.

00:54:44.900 Its life expectancy is declining, its GDP is declining, and that's on purpose.

00:54:51.280 The nation of Canada has been suppressed on purpose.

00:54:54.800 Its population is being killed off by the state through its assisted suicide program,

00:55:00.580 and its population is changing through mass immigration against the will of the population.

00:55:04.820 So that country is being held down on purpose.

00:55:08.640 And my question is, by whom and why?

00:55:12.100 sure that's a great question and this is something that i struggle with all the time

00:55:17.100 because i am a canadian citizen um i went to school there um so um my answer is that canada

00:55:26.120 was never really a nation state it's more of a glorified research sorry glorified resource

00:55:31.280 colony yes for the british the city of london and um the reality is now that the british um

00:55:39.200 are under a lot of strain um the state of london is under a lot of financial pressure

00:55:44.160 it sees places like australia new zillion and canada and what do you do um if you have financial

00:55:52.320 issues will you corporate you do corporate restructuring right you change the middle

00:55:55.840 management right and um historically um you know the british got along very well with the indian

00:56:05.200 elite, right? They went into India and stole millions of dollars from the Indians. And the 0.85

00:56:12.400 elite, the Indian elite, were perfectly happy to help them, right? So why not use the same model 0.97

00:56:16.780 for Australia, for Canada? So there are millions of Indians who've immigrated to Canada in the past

00:56:23.600 five years. And it's put a lot of strain on the Canadian economy because housing prices

00:56:28.400 have exploded. And so ordinary Canadians can no longer afford to buy a house.

00:56:34.140 and it's put so much pressure

00:56:37.100 on the Canadian welfare system,

00:56:40.120 on the Canadian economy.

00:56:41.440 And you would think that the proper strategy

00:56:43.420 would have a moratorium

00:56:44.500 where they're like, you know what?

00:56:46.300 We've had too many immigrants 1.00

00:56:47.300 and we need to close the borders

00:56:49.600 and absorb these immigrants 1.00

00:56:50.900 because we want to ensure

00:56:52.060 that these immigrants have proper housing.

00:56:54.220 They have decent jobs, right?

00:56:56.440 You would think that that'd be the right strategy.

00:56:58.000 And instead, Mark Carney goes to India

00:57:01.600 and says, we want more Indians.

00:57:04.520 And also, we'll give you scholarships

00:57:06.300 to come to Canada to study for free.

00:57:09.780 Meanwhile, there are a lot of Canadians

00:57:11.440 who are homeless, who are unemployed,

00:57:14.540 and who cannot put food on the table.

00:57:15.720 But hey, we want more Indians. 1.00

00:57:18.740 So if it's not corporate restructuring,

00:57:21.000 if it's not trying to asset strip Canada,

00:57:23.220 I really don't understand the strategy for this.

00:57:28.140 Well, I mean, it's a kind of genocide, right,

00:57:30.580 against canadians people whose ancestors built the country but you wonder what the purpose is

00:57:38.040 like this is because it is happening all over the west all over the english-speaking world in the

00:57:43.020 white countries and it's not an accident it's not organic so it's it's a it's a big picture

00:57:50.420 you know that spans from australia to ottawa and what are we what is that do you know

00:57:56.940 right so let's look at europe because in 2014 um this was a major turning point in europe because

00:58:04.380 you had these tens of millions of refugees uh trying to escape these wars in the middle east

00:58:09.140 um you know created by america's wars in the middle east and they were trying to reach europe

00:58:16.200 and at this point europe um had a choice it could choose to close its borders and maintain

00:58:22.820 its cultural identity or it could open the floodgates.

00:58:26.300 And Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany,

00:58:28.480 she said something really, really famous,

00:58:31.320 which stuck in my mind, which is,

00:58:32.580 we can do this.

00:58:34.160 We are Europeans.

00:58:35.420 Somehow we can take in these millions of refugees 1.00

00:58:38.300 and welcome them into our societies

00:58:41.280 and thrive as a people.

00:58:45.360 And the complete opposite has happened.

00:58:47.340 You've got millions of these refugees

00:58:50.020 who fled into Europe,

00:58:52.880 not because of their choice, by the way,

00:58:54.560 but because their nations were devastated, right?

00:58:56.900 Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq

00:58:59.140 were all devastated in these wars

00:59:01.680 against terror in the Middle East.

00:59:04.260 So they go, and these are proud Islamists. 0.99

00:59:08.280 They love their religion.

00:59:09.780 They love their family.

00:59:10.540 They love the community.

00:59:11.520 And so they're not going to absorb themselves

00:59:13.780 and assemble themselves into Europe.

00:59:15.920 And today, you're looking at population replacement

00:59:19.920 in a lot of cities.

00:59:21.480 You go to certain places in Britain

00:59:23.680 and you might think you're in Cairo or Baghdad.

00:59:27.800 And this has caused tremendous conflict throughout Europe.

00:59:31.640 I wouldn't be surprised if like two to four years time,

00:59:34.680 you have civil war break out,

00:59:37.620 insurgencies break out in places like Britain and France.

00:59:42.080 So the question is,

00:59:44.000 why is this happening throughout the world

00:59:46.360 at the same time?

00:59:48.360 Exactly.

00:59:48.480 Why is it that these different nations, whether they're European, whether they're Canadian or Australian, why are they adopting the same policies?

00:59:55.400 Not just in terms of COVID, right, but also in terms of like immigration.

01:00:00.120 And so that's one of the great questions that we have to ask about the world we live in today.

01:00:06.420 It seems as though it's almost a controlled demolition of Western civilization, right?

01:00:12.240 The Anglosphere, Western Europe.

01:00:14.960 It seems as though these nations are being destroyed purposely.

01:00:20.160 For what end? I don't know.

01:00:22.280 But I would just say there's a certain pattern that has emerged,

01:00:26.240 and the result can only end up in the controlled demolition of these societies.

01:00:32.040 I don't even think that's up for debate.

01:00:34.980 I mean, of course, just look at the bottom line numbers. 0.93

01:00:38.280 Of course, the white populations are being killed on purpose, 1.00

01:00:44.400 and the question is why. 0.93

01:00:46.140 And I don't have the faintest idea

01:00:47.260 and I know there's a lot of speculation

01:00:49.340 as to who's doing it.

01:00:50.400 I'll just say bluntly, I don't know.

01:00:52.380 I mean, I know who the instruments are, of course,

01:00:54.480 but Keir Starmer is not in charge of Great Britain.

01:00:57.880 Macron isn't in charge of France.

01:00:59.360 I'm not sure how many leaders really do

01:01:01.260 have control of their countries.

01:01:04.100 I don't know how many countries

01:01:04.780 actually have sovereignty.

01:01:05.900 I really don't know the answer,

01:01:08.100 but something is going on.

01:01:09.880 Is there any precedent for this in history?

01:01:11.640 Have you ever seen anything like this as a historian?

01:01:14.400 right so you look at what's happening in ukraine where the war is lost it was lost two years ago

01:01:22.040 the ukrainians have lost over a million fighting men a lot of their people have fled overseas

01:01:28.400 um no matter what happens in this war ukraine is finished as a nation state it is no longer viable

01:01:34.620 as a nation state and rather than amid defeat and come to a ceasefire with putin what the europeans

01:01:43.680 are doing is they're saying that we're going to draft our men and have them fight in the trenches

01:01:49.240 of Ukraine, which would be suicide because the Russians dominate the battlefield with their 1.00

01:01:54.740 drones and artillery and trenches in Ukraine. So it's almost like a suicide mission. But not only

01:02:00.180 that, but the Germans have said that, okay, we can only draft German men, but not Islamic men,

01:02:10.580 because we're afraid of their loyalty,

01:02:14.460 which means that you have a situation

01:02:15.800 where local men like British, French, German men

01:02:20.560 are being sent to die in the trenches of Ukraine.

01:02:24.620 And back at home,

01:02:27.480 you have these immigrant population

01:02:29.560 that have not assimilated into your culture.

01:02:33.140 So it's a really weird strategy.

01:02:37.980 And I don't know who comes up

01:02:39.440 with this sort of stuff.

01:02:41.780 And look, there's no historical

01:02:43.320 present for this. There just isn't.

01:02:45.640 I mean, there's been incidents

01:02:47.340 of mass immigration.

01:02:50.220 You go back to

01:02:51.420 the fall of the Roman Empire and how

01:02:53.380 these

01:02:53.940 hordes of immigrants 1.00

01:02:57.000 flooded the Romans.

01:03:00.340 And

01:03:00.900 it's almost impossible to assimilate

01:03:03.440 so many people. Eventually,

01:03:05.040 there's going to be a cultural

01:03:06.980 takeover. Eventually, with so many people,

01:03:09.440 who are insistent on maintaining their cultural identity,

01:03:13.280 eventually, because they have more children than you,

01:03:16.060 eventually, they're going to overwhelm your cultural identity. 0.96

01:03:20.420 Yeah, and I do think that is the story of history,

01:03:23.960 one population replacing another.

01:03:25.960 There's no such thing as multiculturalism. 0.89

01:03:27.720 There's always a dominant culture that insists on dominance, of course.

01:03:32.740 I just don't think there's ever been anyone

01:03:37.700 who thought this could happen globally,

01:03:39.480 like a systematic targeting of a race

01:03:42.880 for elimination globally.

01:03:45.840 I mean, well, it wasn't possible until pretty recently,

01:03:48.660 but it would be interesting to know what the plan is.

01:03:52.380 There's clearly like a plan behind that.

01:03:54.820 There's a plan behind everything.

01:03:56.100 How many Americans do you think understand

01:03:58.400 what's actually happening in the world right now?

01:04:01.780 You know, unfortunately, I think that

01:04:05.000 if you are educated in America,

01:04:06.700 You know, I went to Yale, and so I know a lot of these Ivy League people.

01:04:12.900 Unfortunately, we've been indoctrinated to believe certain values, and these values are not questionable.

01:04:19.480 So, for example, there was a court case that went to the Supreme Court about affirmative action at the University of Michigan.

01:04:28.120 And affirmative action is clearly against American values, against the idea of American meritocracy, right? 0.72

01:04:35.720 But the Supreme Court said that affirmative action was good because diversity is an inherent good, okay?

01:04:43.260 And it's interesting because if you go to a place like Yale or Harvard or any of these Ivy League schools, there's actually very little diversity.

01:04:51.100 I'm talking about intellectual diversity.

01:04:53.100 Yeah, I mean, there's different skin color.

01:04:55.280 But if you actually look at the ideas that they engage with in a classroom, it's a very conformist setting.

01:05:01.020 So it's one of these great ironies where affirmative action is supposed to bring diversity to the classroom.

01:05:07.660 But if you go to any classroom in an elite setting, it's extremely conformist.

01:05:12.440 You're not allowed to bring up these issues about population replacement, immigration, because then you'd be called a racist.

01:05:20.520 And that's the worst thing to be called, right? 0.94

01:05:22.700 I mean, you're better off being called a pedophile, right? 0.94

01:05:25.920 Pedophiles have more rights now than racists.

01:05:28.700 um so um unfortunately it's not just what's happening um in current events it's also what's

01:05:37.300 happening in the classroom where and in the popular culture where people are not even allowed

01:05:43.060 to ask questions that are like blindly obvious if you just walk the streets of any you know western

01:05:48.900 city you've lived around the world i think you're now in china um does the rest of the world see

01:05:56.200 this more clearly yeah i mean if you're not in the west and if you're not if you're not subjected

01:06:04.460 to this brainwashing indoctrination that they feed you uh in in the schools it's i mean it's

01:06:10.740 obvious again it's planning obvious to anyone if you just walk the streets of any major city in

01:06:18.620 the west so there's a joke in china and and so popular so chinese don't actually like to go to

01:06:25.440 canada for tourism and um someone asked why don't what does why doesn't anyone recommend

01:06:32.700 chinese going to canada and the response was well would you recommend someone going to india

01:06:39.480 right so so it's a bit racist it's very racist okay but i mean i mean you know it's obvious to

01:06:46.880 people it's just interesting because like i'm not defending the whites i am white of course but you

01:06:53.440 White people have done a lot of bad things, just like people do a lot of bad things. 0.90

01:06:57.620 But in general, people like to go on, as you just noted, vacation in white countries because they're pretty nice. 0.81

01:07:02.900 So I think you'd have to say, if you took the emotion out of it and just looked at it, net, net,

01:07:09.280 whites have been a pretty big addition to the world, invented a lot of stuff, created a lot of beauty,

01:07:15.800 created places people like to go on vacation, which really is a good test.

01:07:19.200 So, like, why would you destroy all that?

01:07:23.440 look so in my school i teach a great books i teach western civilization i teach homer

01:07:31.560 the iliad the odyssey i teach plato the republic i teach daunted the divine comedy i teach the bible

01:07:36.500 and my students love it um because western civilization it's it's it's not about people

01:07:42.980 being white it's really about what it means to be human right and what it means to be spiritual 0.56

01:07:50.260 and to have connections with the divine.

01:07:53.800 So it's unfortunate that just when the world

01:07:58.280 needs Western civilization the most,

01:08:00.420 the West decides to destroy its own civilization.

01:08:03.100 I mean, Homer, Dante, Plato, Shakespeare, the Bible,

01:08:07.600 these are timeless classics that speak to every human.

01:08:10.980 I know because I teach in China to Chinese students

01:08:15.080 who have absolutely no exposure to Western culture,

01:08:17.840 Yet they fall in love with Plato, Dante, Homer, and Shakespeare.

01:08:22.020 And why is that?

01:08:22.960 And it's because there is eternal truth embedded in their words.

01:08:28.860 And so universities, Western universities, ought to be the places, the fortresses, that are the greatest defenders of Western civilization.

01:08:38.740 But if you go again to these elite universities, Yale, Harvard, they are the most critical of Western civilization.

01:08:46.260 They don't want to teach Homer and Don, Tim Plato.

01:08:49.900 And it's like, if you don't teach these classics, what's the purpose of university?

01:08:56.400 I always thought the university was the heart and center of civilization, right?

01:09:01.600 It's like what monasteries were in the medieval age.

01:09:06.700 And I thought these professors, they would dedicate their lives to promoting the classics.

01:09:13.700 But instead, they now promote complete nonsense like DEI and, yeah.

01:09:21.980 Of all the—and this is my last question.

01:09:23.880 Professor, thank you.

01:09:24.800 It's been a wonderful conversation, and I hope it won't be our last.

01:09:27.440 And I hope we can have dinner when we're on the same continent.

01:09:32.220 But this is my last question.

01:09:34.260 Since you've traveled so much and lived so many places and speak multiple languages,

01:09:38.140 Where would you say the part of the world that's most hostile to Western civilization, as you just described it, is?

01:09:45.920 Trying to understand where this hostility is coming from.

01:09:49.220 Well, I would say Canada, Britain, Western Europe.

01:09:55.760 I would say these places are the most hostile towards Western civilization.

01:10:02.600 Chinese people have tremendous respect for Western civilization.

01:10:05.820 In fact, China's in the process of promoting the classics, Plato, Homer, Shakespeare, in China because Chinese recognize the tremendous cultural value and immense eternal truths embedded in these classics.

01:10:24.600 So we're in a very weird situation where the West is destroying itself by abandoning what makes it great, which is these classics.

01:10:36.540 I think if we talk longer, I'm going to start to cry on camera.

01:10:39.140 So I'm going to take an emotional break here, Professor.

01:10:42.800 Thank you.

01:10:44.000 Okay.

01:10:44.520 I do not mean to upset you.

01:10:46.880 I'm half kidding.

01:10:48.100 No, it's emotionally resonant for me because I know that you're telling the truth and it

01:10:52.220 comports with everything that I've seen.

01:10:54.340 And so it's hard to accept something that's true.

01:10:56.220 But I think what you're saying is true, unfortunately.

01:10:58.680 So bless you for this.

01:10:59.980 And I hope to see you again soon.

01:11:02.120 Thank you.

01:11:04.040 Yeah, I really enjoyed it, Tucker.

01:11:05.560 We'll be right back.

The Tucker Carlson Show - March 20, 2026

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