Tucker Carlson returns to Canada to talk about his love for his home country and why he thinks Justin Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister in the history of Canada. Tucker also reveals something about himself that he's never revealed before. He's part Canadian, and he's here because he's part American, and part Canadian because he grew up in a country that's bigger than the United States, has more natural resources than the US, and has more people than any other country in the world by a country in which he's only 1/10th the size of the USA. Tucker also talks about why he loves Canada and what it's like living there, and why it's one of the most beautiful countries he's ever been to. He also explains why he doesn't want to live in Canada, because it's not the kind of country he'd ever dream of living in, but it's the type of place he'd like to move to, and that's a good thing, because that's where he's at home, right here in Canada. Tucker Carlson is a standup comedian, standup comic, podcaster, writer, and podcaster. His work has been featured on Comedy Central, The Late Night with Seth Meyers, and Comedy Central. His music has also been heard on SiriusXM, Comedy Bang! and other radio stations across the country, including Comedy Central and NPR. His new album, Tucker Carlson on Fire, is out now! is out on all of the social medias, if you search for him, you'll find him. If you're looking for a good time, check him out. . . . and if you haven't checked out his music, you can catch him out on SoundCloud, his music is out there on Soundcloud, too! And if you don't like what he's on it, you should check out his podcast, he's also on it! and his podcast is on the pod is also on Apple Podcasts, and his website is . if you're listening to his podcast on the App Store or wherever else he's listening to it's cool, go listen to him on your favorite streaming service, check it out! he's awesome. and if he's not on your favourite streaming platform, you're cool with it? Thank you for listening to this episode of his work is amazing, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, love ya, dude.
00:00:00.000How about a huge Alberta welcome for the one and only Tucker Carlson.
00:00:30.000Is that a democracy? No, it's not. It's not a free country. It's a very scary place and that's exactly what Canada has become under Justin Trudeau and the second you decide to tell the truth about something you are filled with this, I don't want to get supernatural, but you are filled with this power from somewhere else. Try it. Tell the truth about something.
00:01:00.000You feel it every day. The more you tell the truth, the stronger you become.
00:02:00.160What a great province this is. What a great country this is.
00:02:05.720In fact, I should just be told, I've actually never said this to anyone, including my wife, but I know that in Canada, it's official policy that coming out of the closet is good.
00:02:16.700So, I'm going to reveal something about myself that I've never revealed, which is that I am part Canadian.
00:02:25.680And yes, I am. I actually am part Canadian.
00:02:29.040And I was thinking this morning, I was like, you know, I always say I'm the only American who's legitimately interested in Canada, and I am.
00:03:03.060And I've been all over your country, and I've been everywhere in your country, and I just think it's a remarkable place.
00:03:11.200And I think people don't quite understand what Canada is, because so much of it is bumped right up against our border.
00:03:16.620And I would argue, no offense, that the least impressive places in Canada are right up against our border.
00:03:21.260But once you get past that, it's just unbelievable.
00:03:23.740I've been to this city a lot because of your mountains, which I just find, beyond belief, really the prettiest places I've ever been.
00:03:30.020This country is the prettiest country I've ever been in.
00:03:31.900The second biggest country in the world, bigger than the United States, deeper oil reserves in the United States, more natural resources in the United States, and one-ninth the population.
00:03:43.060And when I hear the lunatics who run your government, they're like, our population's growing.
00:04:29.120Because no one will ever laugh at your joke.
00:04:31.500And so every time I go to Toronto, which I try not to do, but I do wind up there, every time I check in a hotel, I'm like, you guys have hot water?
00:04:39.060Like, where'd you get all the electricity?
00:04:59.460I've told so many sled dog and Molson jokes, and I'll never stop.
00:05:03.720But one of the reasons I do it is because I do think it's important to laugh at your circumstances, not simply because it makes you feel better, though it does, but because it gives you perspective on them.
00:05:17.220And humor requires some distance, some critical distance, both from yourself and from your surroundings.
00:05:21.840And you can't really see things clearly until you have that.
00:05:24.380And so, if you have a country where the funny people feel like they have to leave, that's a huge problem.
00:05:31.920The second problem is you can't really be effective as a political movement or a resistance movement, which effectively you are, if you don't laugh at your enemies.
00:05:39.760Because not only are they evil, and they are, they're also ludicrous.
00:05:46.820And it's really important to say that because it saps their power immediately.
00:05:52.020Laughing at someone, and if you're a married man, you know that, no, it's true.
00:05:56.780Your wife could come and hit you in the face with a two-by-four, and that would be less painful than having her laugh derisively at you, particularly when you get out of the shower.
00:06:15.740And so, to look at your enemies, like let's say you had some sort of weird prime minister like to dress up in fussy costumes.
00:06:22.040It would be super important to point that out a lot, like relentlessly.
00:06:28.940Somebody told me last night that his base, I was asked, we had this wonderful dinner last night with two of the most famous people in Canada, probably the two most famous people, Lord Black and my friend Dr. Jordan Peterson.
00:06:40.460And I asked, I asked, like, is there anyone in the country who supports this guy?
00:07:39.860So, anyway, that's my first piece of advice.
00:07:42.760My second piece of advice, once you've done that, which is very effective, and I know it's not the Canadian way, because it's such a polite society that everyone feels morally bound to take everyone else's point of view very seriously and sort of nod gravely and pretend to consider their perspective.
00:07:55.760But there are some perspectives that aren't, in fact, perspectives.
00:08:45.700I mean, and I'm applauding, and I'm grateful.
00:08:47.300But how distorted is your world where you have to applaud the one politician that's like, you know, we're not going to give fentanyl to the kids today?
00:08:55.680But then take two steps further back from that and ask yourself, if someone's giving fentanyl to your children, what's kind of the message of that?
00:09:02.380Well, they're trying to kill your children, obviously.
00:09:35.560Second, if they are trying to kill you, and by the way, I know I'm offending everyone, even this group, because no one in Canada wants to talk about anything.
00:09:42.320It's like an Episcopalian Christmas dinner.
00:09:45.340And I grew up in that world, so I know everyone's had like three too many, and then someone will bird out, you wrecked my childhood!
00:09:51.060And then everyone will sit there in silence.
00:10:01.260If you're killing 50,000 of your citizens, if the government is doing that through the MAID program, and a lot of them are not actually terminally ill, they're just sad, and the government is encouraging them to submit to being killed by the government, and then won't release the recent statistics, like what is that?
00:10:31.580So if you're a government, you have the duty to your citizens, people who are from here, people whose ancestors built the place, not exclusively to them, but primarily to them, to your citizens.
00:10:40.440Like, why else do you exist except to serve your citizens?
00:10:42.500And if you're targeting your citizens, how do people who arrived in Canada in the last 10 years have opted into the MAID program?
00:11:04.920But more than anything, you should internalize the message of that, which is they hate me.
00:11:08.700They hate me to the point they're willing to kill me, which they are.
00:11:12.700And the third thing is, notice the erosion of your most basic civil liberties, not the ones granted to you by the crown, but the ones granted to you by God.
00:11:22.000And those would include the freedom of speech, which is inalienable.
00:11:28.100It cannot be taken from you, no matter who is in Ottawa, or as we say, Ottawa.
00:11:32.620Which, by the way, is the correct pronunciation, according to my friends in the Ojibwe community.
00:11:42.900I've pronounced it that way every time on television, and I get all these angry, you know, you're pronouncing it incorrectly.
00:12:41.160No, they're weapons of self-defense, which you need and deserve as a free person, not a slave.
00:12:47.440And then they're telling you you can't complain about it.
00:12:50.980And then they're subsidizing the media to the point where all of your big media outlets, which are disgusting, are state media because they're taking state cash.
00:13:31.980And we are very delusional in the United States because we're so distracted by stuff and electronic devices and the promise of next-day delivery from Amazon,
00:13:40.980a brightly colored plastic crap made in China, that we tend to be slow to figure out what's going on.
00:13:46.120But Canada has a different restraint, which is a cultural one.
00:13:48.600It's a specific angle of cultural one.
00:13:50.740Which is just like, I don't want to deal with that.
00:14:30.580Because no one could say out loud what was actually happening.
00:14:33.600This was a series of acts of hostility aimed at you because of things that you didn't choose, like how you were born.
00:14:41.460And once you keep allowing that, you have no future.
00:14:46.620So if they're limiting your freedom to say what you think, which is the freedom of conscience, the most basic of all freedom, your freedom to defend yourself and your family against bodily harm, which has got to be a twin to the first one.
00:15:00.240If they're taking away your voting power by changing the population of your country, which they are doing, and no one wants to talk about that, Canada has the highest immigration rate in the world per capita.
00:15:15.980I don't care if they're coming from New Zealand.
00:15:17.980I don't care if you're taking the population of Stockholm and moving them to Canada.
00:15:22.560If you change the population of the country, you change the country.
00:15:26.620And you dilute the voting power of the people who are vested in that country, the people who are born there, who have lived there long term, who understand the history and the culture of the country, who are bought in.
00:15:36.000And all of a sudden, their vote means much less.
00:17:15.940The last thing I'll say, which also may be controversial because it sounds like a parochial concern or some sort of, you know, weird religious thing or something, and it's not.
00:17:30.420But take a look at what they're doing to your Christians.
00:17:33.580And I say this for a couple of, I am a Christian, but that's not why I'm telling you this.
00:17:38.980I'm telling you this because there's kind of no more inoffensive and peaceful group in the world than the Christians.
00:18:20.460So if you're hassling that group, maybe you've got another agenda that we should be concerned about, even if we're not in that group.
00:18:28.420If we burn 90 of their churches to the ground, and the prime minister and his little weird buddies are endorsing that, burning churches?
00:18:40.060If you're on the side of burning churches, let me just say I don't need any other facts of the case, you're on the wrong side.
00:18:45.120If you're throwing preachers in prison for preaching the Christian gospel, not for hurting anyone, not for making pipe bombs, not for trying to castrate other people's children,
00:19:00.580not for importing millions of people into your country who are not going to have work, just for the crime of preaching the Christian gospel, you go to jail.
00:19:10.820At the same time, when they're encouraging your kids to do drugs, and not just fentanyl, but weed, don't raise your hand if you have a 15-year-old son.
00:19:20.120But come up to me after and tell me what you think of legalized weed.
00:19:24.760And if you have a 15-year-old son, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
00:19:27.540They did that to you and to your son on purpose.
00:19:30.100And so, in a country like that, in a world like that, if you think that preaching the gospel is so dangerous that the people who do it need to be in prison in shackles,
00:19:42.620you're serving someone other than the people of Canada, if you know what I mean.
00:19:54.720And I don't care how much they dress it up in the passive-aggressive, self-help language of the modern left.
00:20:03.620Well, it's really about public safety.
00:20:05.040Every time I turn on your freaking television shows, everything's about public safety, which is a euphemism for hard-edged fascism, actually.
00:20:12.780And frankly, I'm a little bit more comfortable with the old-fashioned variety.
00:20:16.380Where guys in tight uniforms goose-step through your town, because at least you know who you're fighting.
00:20:21.040And you know what it's going to take to liberate your town.
00:20:23.720Get rid of these people and everything will be okay.
00:20:26.140But when they show up and they're therapists with advanced degrees, and they look at you in the face and say,
00:20:31.580No, actually, little Dylan just needs more fentanyl.
00:47:06.140She was robbed multiple times of her just rewards, which is also part of the process of dismantling meritocracy,
00:47:14.680which is a process that we're apparently deeply committed to because who needs merit when you could have, let's say, diversity as an alternative.
00:47:37.440And she did, you know, you talked a little bit, I don't remember if it was the video clip or when you were speaking live,
00:47:44.560but about the consequences of saying what you believe to be true.
00:47:48.140You know, I wouldn't say telling the truth exactly because, you know, you have to be pretty presumptuous if you think you've got a hammerlock on the truth.
00:47:55.680But you could at least try to say what you believe to be true.
00:47:59.320And what's so interesting about that, and this is something, I don't know if there's anything more important than you can know than this,
00:48:06.200is that if you say what you believe to be true, you are living your life.
00:48:14.180You will have the adventure of your life.
00:49:22.120Unrestrained immigration done for political reasons or for reasons of racial hostility, which is why it's happening now, will absolutely eliminate your country from the map.
00:50:59.460Now, I wish we had another half an hour, but where we're going to evolve to in a moment is Tucker's going to have a little work with a very important politician in the Alberta world.
00:51:10.880But let me go first with two words that I'm left with, and I've got dozens I'd love to use.
00:51:18.700Well, you know, it says in the Gospels that to those who have been given much, much will be required.
00:51:31.580From those who are given much, much will be required.
00:51:33.860And you people in Alberta, you've been given much, not least a store of resources that are of incomprehensible value.
00:51:47.920And you have a commensurate responsibility along with that gift.
00:51:53.520And if you steward those resources properly, you could help Canada move towards an almost inconceivable abundance and do the same thing around the world.
00:52:05.780And because you've been given that gift, you have that responsibility.
00:52:09.320And the other thing that's worth understanding is that if you're given a gift and you don't shepherd it wisely and you don't take responsibility for it and you're not grateful for its provision, then it will destroy you.
00:52:26.640Can I say one super quick thing as a non-Albertan?
00:52:30.640I think one of the reasons Alberta, Canada should be grateful for Alberta, obviously for the reasons the doctor just suggested, but a lot of Canada, Eastern Canada is not grateful for Alberta.
00:57:15.900And I think it's really, really interesting.
00:57:17.200But I do feel duty-bound to ask you about something that people outside your country are paying attention to.
00:57:22.400And that's people who are imprisoned, unfortunately, in this province for what appear to be, again, I'm an outsider and I wouldn't presume to know all the details.
00:57:33.380But I'm interested in the topic and have looked into it.
00:57:37.560But we'll just focus on the four who arrested in coots near the Montana border for what appear to be political crimes and have not faced trial nor been given bail.
00:57:47.920That seems like a human rights violation at scale.
00:57:50.760It's shocking that could happen in a civilized country.
00:57:52.860Tell us what you know about that and what you think about it.
00:57:56.160I should first say, because I know that there are representatives from mainstream media here, and they're going to ask me whether I agreed with every single word you said in the previous panel.
00:58:07.800And so what I often say, especially when I'm being interviewed by the CBC, is, look, I don't agree with every word you say either, obviously.
00:58:14.960But I accept interviews and have conversations with everyone because I think it's important for me.
00:58:20.760To make sure that the world knows how incredible Alberta is.
00:58:24.180And it's my job to make sure that I can tell your audience that, too.
00:58:27.840So just I know CBC is here, so you can you can quote me on that one if you want.
00:58:54.340But what I would say is I had a bit of an education when I became premier because in our country, the criminal code is determined by the federal government.
00:59:02.960There is no interaction that you can have as a provincial leader on pardons, no interaction you can have with the police, no interaction you can have with prosecutors, no interaction you can have with the court system.
00:59:12.560I made my views very clear when I was running in the leadership that I'm I call myself a libertarian conservative when I was in a job very similar to yours because I was in the media as well.
00:59:24.560I took the side of those who love freedom and believe that we had severe government overreach.
00:59:30.740And I think it's part of the reason why when the job came open, people voted for me.
00:59:34.480So I am not proud of our country for having frozen bank accounts.
00:59:40.060I'm not proud of our country for having jailed pastors.
00:59:42.860I'm not proud of our country for the fact that we still have people languishing in jail for going on two years.
00:59:50.360And the fact that we, the federal, the federal court just ruled that the federal government's actions in invoking the emergency act were illegal and they chose to appeal rather than accept the judgment of the court.
01:00:06.380But it's a lawless government acting in a lawless way.
01:00:09.220And I have great sympathy for anyone who's been at the, been a victim of that.
01:00:15.060And, but, but given that the Trudeau government's actions as of yesterday have been ruled criminal and you describe them as lawless, which I think demonstrably they are.
01:00:25.120And given that the media outlets, the big ones in Canada are organs of the state, literally.
01:00:30.720We don't really know anything about what these four men, the Kutzpah, have been accused of doing.
01:00:36.900Don't you think it would send a powerful message to go visit them in jail and find out what they've been accused of?
01:00:43.540Well, some of you may know I had a phone call with somebody in a similar position.
01:00:53.500And what I have learned is that all I can say is the crown operates independently.
01:01:00.840Prosecutors have to make sure that they have a reasonable likelihood of conviction.
01:01:06.080And I guess they will have to assess whether or not that is the case now with the court judgment that came down.
01:01:13.520I, I must tell you it's, it's part of the journey we've all gone on in the last year to realize just how much limitation there is.
01:01:20.980It's, it's, it's striking to me that a political action can be taken to launch a police charge and the criminal proceedings,
01:01:29.980but you can't take a political action to say, you know what, on sober second thought we've reconsidered, we're wrong and we're going to vacate these charges.
01:01:37.980It's, it's good work from people like the Canadian Constitution Foundation, Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom, Civil Liberties Association.
01:01:43.980They are doing, they are doing the work in the way that our, our system allows.
01:01:48.980I wish, I truly wish I could do more, but I've, I've had my wings clipped in the last year.
01:01:52.980I do hope someone can stand up for the most powerless in your society.
01:02:19.980Well, I, we do, and I represent a, a riding that's down in Southern Alberta.
01:02:25.980And this is my favorite time of year to drive past when we've got snow covered fields, because guess what?
01:02:31.980You've also got snow covered solar panels that aren't generating a single megawatt of solar energy.
01:02:36.980Um, we also, um, I don't know if you know this Tucker, but I was very impacted by what happened in Texas a few years ago when their power grid failed.
01:02:44.980Because we've mirrored the way that they've structured their market.
01:02:48.980They've got a large base of natural gas, but they've also added wind and solar.
01:02:51.980And then when they got into an electricity crunch and the grid failed, 346 people died.
01:02:58.980Because that's what happens when the power grid fails and people rely on electricity to live.
01:03:04.980So we ended up in the last two years now having 14 alerts on our grid, because that's how close we are to failure.
01:03:13.980And we had to take the extraordinary measure a week ago of putting out an emergency alert to Albertans.
01:03:20.980Because if we had, we were, we were 40 megawatts away from having to do rolling brownouts, rolling blackouts.
01:03:29.980Which would have meant 120,000 homes plunged into darkness for 30 minutes at a time.
01:03:36.980At six o'clock at night, when people are making dinner, when kids are doing homework.
01:03:41.980Who, I mean, imagine the impact of those who require machines to live, those who are on dialysis or those who are in hospital.
01:03:48.980There's no possible way as a political leader that I'm going to allow the ideology against fossil fuels to impact what my job is.
01:03:57.980And that's to ensure that we've got safe, reliable, affordable power.
01:04:01.980But I applaud you with such sincerity for taking a position on behalf of your constituents and their lives and not wanting to kill them.
01:04:13.980May I say, because what happened that day, I mean, as I know, I don't like to put too many numbers out there,
01:04:19.980but to understand the scale of what we were dealing with, we were about 12,500 megawatts at our peak.
01:04:25.980So, if 40 megawatts more had come on, that would have resulted in the blackouts I was just talking about.
01:04:32.980We've got 6,000 megawatts of installed wind and solar.
01:04:36.980Solar was zero. Wind was seven megawatts.
01:04:41.980And I simply can't say to people, well, just wait until the sun comes up and the wind starts blowing at nine o'clock in the morning,
01:04:47.980and good luck to you getting through the night.
01:04:49.980But that's, I guess, the divide that we're talking about is I've been astonished to read some commentary after that happened was,
01:04:58.980see, your pause on renewables is wrong. You need to build more wind and solar.
01:05:02.980Like, how do you come to that conclusion that your power grid fails because you don't have reliable power?
01:05:08.980My conclusion is you need to have more base load power, more natural gas.
01:05:12.980But that's, I guess, the nature of the duality that we have.
01:05:16.980It's just a little bit confusing if you step back because power generation, power grids are highly technical complex things designed over a hundred years by engineers.
01:05:26.980And yet people who don't know anything about them have changed them.
01:05:29.980Would the same apply to, say, heart surgery?
01:05:32.980I've never, you know, gone to medical school, but I have very strong feelings about how you're doing your heart transplants.
01:05:39.980Let me impose my new heart transplant regs on you.
01:05:42.980You would say, that's insane. People will die.
01:05:45.980I wish you would put Steven Gibault in your crosshairs as you're doing.
01:05:57.980He happens to be our environment minister federally.
01:06:00.980And, you know, I guess if you put that question to him, he believes he has the expertise and knowledge to tell us in Alberta how to run our power grid.
01:06:10.980I don't know if you know much about Steven Gibault.
01:06:12.980I don't know if I've ever heard you talk about him.
01:06:14.980I'm wanting to learn less just by your description.
01:06:16.980Well, one thing I find so offensive, I mean, you talk about, uh, the disrespect to our province.
01:06:23.980This is a guy who is an environmental advocate.
01:06:26.980He's best known for scaling the CN Tower in opposition of fossil fuels when he was working as an environmental advocate.
01:06:34.980But he also scaled the house of our premier.
01:06:36.980So he's a rock climber, not an engineer.
01:06:42.980Imagine somebody going and taking a criminal offense, going onto the roof of a premier, and then they make that person in charge of trying to dictate to us how to pull our resources out of ground, how to manage our natural resources, how to manage our electricity grid.
01:06:58.980So I'm trying to get him fired, and I would love your help on that.
01:07:05.980It just, it seems like for decades, the kind of rich kid lifestyle liberalism that now dominates everything was confined to kind of sociology departments at liberal arts colleges.
01:07:18.980Who made the decision to allow people like that to have control over medical schools, power grids, airlines?
01:07:42.980The media is now almost, with the exception of some of the alternative media I mentioned, they are almost all of a particular mindset, progressive mindset.
01:07:51.980The universities, and Dr. Peterson speaks of this very well, almost uniformly are they of an ideology that penalizes kids, quite frankly.
01:08:01.980If they want to write a paper about conservatism, they get marked down. You hear about that regularly.
01:08:06.980If you look at Hollywood, Hollywood's terrible when it comes to the messages and how they portray conservatives, how they portray capitalism.
01:08:14.980And I think as well we have increasingly become urbanized.
01:08:19.980And so I suppose when you get disconnected from the land, disconnected from something real, disconnected from the dirty jobs,
01:08:26.980then do you understand that when you turn the lights on, they only work because of everything that is happening out in the rural area.
01:08:35.980When you go in and fill up your car, it's only happening because we've been able to have people who are developing our natural resources.
01:08:42.980I think that's one of the disconnects that we end up having.
01:08:45.980I think that's such a smart analysis and totally true.
01:08:48.980But providing electricity to your population is not some kind of like boutique add-on you get if you pay extra taxes.
01:08:55.980That's like a baseline requirement of being a state.
01:08:59.980And if you can't provide electricity, you're a failed state, right?
01:09:02.980I think you may be surprised to hear me praise Michael Moore because I think he has done more to recalibrate what we need to be thinking about with electricity.
01:09:13.980Prior to his movie, Planet of the Humans, I think there was this ideology that all you had to do is put up wind and solar and batteries and you get free electricity.
01:09:25.980And I think people actually believe that that was true.
01:09:28.980They didn't talk about the intermittency, nor did they talk about the fact that wind and solar aren't truly carbon neutral.
01:09:34.980I mean, you can't make a wind turbine without steel.
01:09:39.980Fiberglass as well, lots of carbon that goes into that.
01:09:41.980The cement at the base, there's lots of carbon that goes into that.
01:09:44.980And the truckloads that it takes to get it to site, all of that is gasoline and diesel.
01:09:49.980So that's kind of the piece that he put together is he realized that you can't have wind and solar without a heavy reliance on fossil fuels.
01:09:57.980And so now we're beginning to have a more honest conversation about what that looks like.
01:10:01.980But I think that there is this fantasy thinking that because people don't know how things work, that they believe that these simplistic solutions that are offered by politicians are actually achievable.
01:10:12.980And it makes it harder for conservatives and politicians who do have to actually make things work to kind of bust through, especially when you've got the media stacked against you and trying to get the message out and try to make people realize that these things matter.
01:10:26.980We can transition over time to reduce emissions so that we have less impact on the environment.
01:11:26.980We we also I mean, I would like to take a page out of the of what the Americans are doing, really, because on the one hand, federal leadership is talking along the same lines that.
01:11:40.980America has become the largest producer of oil and gas for export in that same period of time while all of the politicians have said they're going in the opposite direction.
01:11:49.980So I think we should just double down and decide we're going to double our oil and gas production because because truly like where else does America want to get its oil from?