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00:00:22.860 So you're running for governor of Iowa.

00:00:31.700 And we can get into the whole politics of that maybe later.

00:00:34.680 But I'm interested in why.

00:00:37.820 You know, I think the primary catalyst for me doing this was I believe we are losing our culture and our heritages of people.

00:00:46.720 That's my honest belief.

00:00:48.320 And I believe it's not just in Iowa.

00:00:49.880 It's across the country.

00:00:50.740 But when I look around and see people that were running for office, it was all about policy.

00:00:56.320 It was all about here's this tax rate or, you know, this regulation needs to be changed.

00:01:00.720 And I just thought, no one is standing up to say we have to get the culture right first.

00:01:06.660 We have to step in and say, what does it mean to be an American?

00:01:10.140 What does it mean to be an Iowan?

00:01:11.960 And are the traditions and the heritage and the value of our ancestors important to us?

00:01:17.200 And that's in the deepest part of my heart what motivates me in something like this.

00:01:24.720 I actually don't want to be a politician.

00:01:26.380 I bet.

00:01:27.200 I've not had interest in it.

00:01:28.540 You know, I spent a lot of my life in the private sector and building schools.

00:01:33.000 And I have a pretty good life.

00:01:35.940 I have a great family and a wife who loves me and supports me.

00:01:40.240 But, you know, in 1850, my family came over from Germany.

00:01:46.360 And great-great-grandpa built our farmhouse.

00:01:49.740 And we had that same house on this piece of land in Iowa until 2005.

00:01:54.660 And my great-grandmother passed away.

00:01:57.000 And I can still remember my grandma called me.

00:01:58.860 And she said, Zach, you wouldn't want anything to do this old farmhouse, would you?

00:02:02.820 And I had, you know, graduated from high school in Iowa.

00:02:04.960 I was off in college.

00:02:05.900 And I said, no, there's something better out here.

00:02:08.700 I'm off to get something, to find something better.

00:02:12.220 And then a number of years later, I was driving by to see my other great-grandmother who lived to be 103.

00:02:19.800 And I drove by the old farm.

00:02:21.120 And I just drove up.

00:02:22.000 I said, hey, could I take a look around?

00:02:24.080 And they said, yeah.

00:02:24.780 I said, you know, my great-great-grandpa built this.

00:02:26.720 He was a third-class passenger on the SS Weiland coming from Hamburg, Germany, as a 14-year-old.

00:02:32.820 He was in the stowage.

00:02:34.380 That's where he traveled over to America.

00:02:36.780 And he became a carpenter and then earned enough money to buy the farm and build it with his uncle.

00:02:42.580 And I said, hey, if you're ever thinking about selling it, will you please let me know?

00:02:46.420 And I just didn't think anything coming at that time.

00:02:49.560 But a couple years later, they called me and said, hey, we're going to sell this farm.

00:02:53.100 Would you want it?

00:02:53.460 I'm like, yes, I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I ended up scraping together enough money to get an FHA loan, a down payment.

00:03:02.120 And I bought the farm.

00:03:03.600 And then since that time in 2014, I've been working to rebuild it and restore it.

00:03:09.420 Is the house still there?

00:03:10.680 House is still there.

00:03:11.900 When I bought it, it was covered in vinyls.

00:03:14.260 It had been completely changed on the outside.

00:03:18.340 Yeah, 150 years is a long time.

00:03:19.960 Yeah, and being completely changed on the outside.

00:03:23.460 But I went to my dad's cousin, Peter, and he just kind of had the repository of great-grandma's photos.

00:03:30.480 And so I got this palette of boxes of photos.

00:03:33.760 And I spent, I'm not kidding, hundreds of hours going through photos.

00:03:37.400 And I was looking for every photo I could find of this old farmhouse.

00:03:39.680 And I'll tell you, to anybody who wants to be radicalized on what we've lost as a culture, spend that much time going through your great-grandmother's photos.

00:03:50.460 Yeah.

00:03:50.600 And you'll realize the community, the traditions, the pride.

00:03:56.600 I've done it.

00:03:57.720 A lot of it's gone.

00:03:59.200 It's unrecognizable.

00:04:00.520 Unrecognizable.

00:04:01.200 And so I did that.

00:04:02.700 And I found every single picture I could find.

00:04:05.080 And I put the house back together, board by board, counted every single piece of siding, make sure it matched.

00:04:09.980 And now we live in the home that was built by my great-great-grandfather.

00:04:16.060 And I tell people, I didn't do that so I could run for governor.

00:04:19.440 I mean, I started doing this over 10 years ago.

00:04:23.160 I did it because I wanted my children to understand their story.

00:04:26.340 And their heritage and their culture, what built them, the man who built this house, who I bet hoped someday my kids would live in it, but knew he would never meet them, that that story matters deeply.

00:04:44.780 And so that's what really got me into this.

00:04:47.320 You know, I was not looking to run for the seat.

00:04:50.720 And as I was talking to my wife about this, the current governor of Iowa, who, by the way, has done a very good job.

00:04:58.760 I mean, we're likely, other than Florida, maybe one of the most conservative states, and she's done a great job at that.

00:05:05.040 You're a nice person.

00:05:06.000 Yeah.

00:05:07.580 You know, when we were looking at this, my wife said, you know, the seat hasn't been open in 20 years.

00:05:13.800 And there are issues in our state that are not dealing with taxes, that are not dealing with regulations, that are systemic, deep issues that are really causing our people to be hurt.

00:05:26.620 And I talk about them all the time.

00:05:28.400 And it was kind of from her, this moment of, hey, you know, put up or stop talking about it, because this is an opportunity to go make real change.

00:05:38.840 And so that's why I'm running.

00:05:39.740 So you said there are systemic issues that are not included in the normal palette of politician concerns, which would be taxes and regulation.

00:05:49.260 Just in order of importance, can you go through a few of them?

00:05:52.500 Well, I think, you know, I've spent my life in large part as an entrepreneur.

00:05:57.180 And in businesses, organizations I've run or started, I have key metrics that I'm tracking to know the health of my companies or the health of an organization.

00:06:05.860 And, you know, I think, I think on that list for a state is the physical climate of it.

00:06:12.300 That's no doubt.

00:06:13.080 That's part of it.

00:06:13.900 Like, can people afford to live here?

00:06:15.800 Yes.

00:06:16.200 That's a big part, of course.

00:06:17.340 But there's other deeper issues that I think are more long-term in focus that we, you know, because of this, like, constant news cycle of what's happening right now that we all have to respond to, which, thank God, I'm not running for a federal office because it's, like, never ending and always changing.

00:06:34.120 But because of, because of that, often we're distracted or our eyes are taken off the ball purposely from the big issues.

00:06:42.500 And a couple of them are at this.

00:06:44.740 Iowa's number four in the nation for net out-migration of our kids, 25 to 29.

00:06:49.720 Yeah.

00:06:50.100 How can you build a state if your people are leaving?

00:06:53.920 Import new people. 1.00

00:06:55.300 Yeah.

00:06:55.640 Yeah.

00:06:56.880 Yes, we can talk about that.

00:06:58.020 Another one would be, you know, 25% of our farmlands now are owned by out-of-state investors and funds that don't live in our state.

00:07:07.540 So, our farmers, who have had this ancestral connection to the land, are now becoming tenants again, something we left Germany in large part for.

00:07:19.380 You know, just take a side quest here for a second.

00:07:23.000 I remember when I was doing a lot of that research in my family to understand a lot about the history and what drove them to leave this homeland of theirs.

00:07:33.200 You know, because Iowa's made up, you know, 35, 40% German immigrants that came over.

00:07:37.540 Very industrious people, very family-oriented people, people that had pride in the work that they do.

00:07:44.180 Objectively, some of the best people ever.

00:07:46.360 I would say that.

00:07:48.000 I'm not one of them, but I just have noticed.

00:07:50.680 Big on tradition and big on family and a lot of pride in where they came from.

00:07:58.920 So, what would motivate people to leave?

00:08:00.660 And, you know, I think the common answer we always heard was, well, it's religious persecution.

00:08:05.300 And so, I started to get interested in this just to understand more.

00:08:08.620 What were the real conditions?

00:08:10.020 And I actually found out that, you know, my family, a lot of Germans came over around 1850.

00:08:16.280 Well, in 1848 in Germany, there was an attempted revolution.

00:08:23.960 Across Europe.

00:08:24.780 Across Europe, yes.

00:08:26.200 And it was called the 48ers.

00:08:28.480 And what did they want?

00:08:29.700 Well, they wanted to be able to own the ground under their feet.

00:08:32.240 They wanted free speech.

00:08:33.240 They didn't like slavery.

00:08:34.720 They had a lot of these, you know, now what we call Western ideals.

00:08:38.060 It was the end of feudalism, right?

00:08:39.200 Yes, right.

00:08:40.620 And so, what happened to them?

00:08:42.600 They were defeated.

00:08:44.240 And so, in Germany, when they're defeated, many of them got exiled.

00:08:47.860 And then many others just left.

00:08:50.280 Well, what state came online in 1846 was Iowa.

00:08:53.720 And it was also very agrarian, just like where they came from.

00:08:58.120 And so, many of these people came over.

00:08:59.300 And I like to talk about this, that, you know, one of the key points in Iowa's history that I'm most proud of is how Iowans responded during the Civil War.

00:09:12.560 So, you know, we had the Missouri Compromise.

00:09:17.380 We had the Kansas-Nebraska Act.

00:09:20.460 And with that, with that decision of, you know, they sort of get to decide whether or not they're going to be free or slave.

00:09:27.020 There was a lot of wealthy landowning elites that were rushing to the Midwest to try to lobby to create slave states.

00:09:37.100 Of course.

00:09:38.160 And this Iowa...

00:09:39.500 Plantations on the prairie.

00:09:40.720 Right.

00:09:40.940 And Iowa's not a part of this.

00:09:43.560 You know, but one of my favorite stories, in 1861, the governor of Iowa, his name was Governor Samuel Kirkwood.

00:09:52.780 He was on his plow in his field when a messenger from the Department of War brought a message on horseback to him.

00:10:01.660 And then the president said he needed to put together a company of 750 troops to be ready in two weeks.

00:10:09.160 And mind you, this is 15 years after Iowa became a state.

00:10:13.120 We were in our infancy.

00:10:15.340 And he said, 750 troops in two weeks, how can that be done?

00:10:20.300 And two weeks later, 10,000 Iowans had signed up.

00:10:23.820 By the end of the Civil War, more Iowans fought in the Civil War than any other state per capita.

00:10:29.400 Why was that?

00:10:30.140 And I believe, and there's some evidence, of course, I haven't read deeply in this, that they had just left a country that they saw oppression in.

00:10:40.140 And they fled that, left everything, and they were saying, this isn't going to happen here.

00:10:46.220 So, I think when you talk about land, and you talk about now 25% of our land is now owned by people that don't live in our state.

00:10:52.740 They're not contributing to our communities.

00:10:54.460 They don't go to the football games.

00:10:56.140 They're not shopping on Main Street.

00:10:57.480 It's a real generational issue.

00:11:01.660 And I go to these auctions.

00:11:03.420 I've bid against many of these people.

00:11:05.880 Land auctions.

00:11:06.480 Oh, yeah.

00:11:07.440 And very often, it's a farm management company.

00:11:11.800 The actual owner, we don't know who they are.

00:11:14.860 We actually don't know who owns our land in Iowa.

00:11:17.980 There's not human level disclosure that's required.

00:11:20.040 So, you can own land in an LLC, and that LLC could be wholly owned by a trust, and all the state knows is that the LLC owns the land.

00:11:32.300 That's it.

00:11:33.460 And so, we've gotten to this place where just common courtesy, or just common tradition of knowing who your neighbors are, is not there anymore.

00:11:43.880 Well, it's impossible.

00:11:44.980 Yeah.

00:11:46.120 And purposefully so.

00:11:47.140 You can't find their names.

00:11:49.420 It's kind of hard to have a community.

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00:15:45.000 Of course it is.

00:15:45.760 Owned by people.

00:15:46.760 So then another, two other ones.

00:15:48.420 By the way, if you don't, you know, have to bear the consequences of your actions, then you're much more likely to exploit and degrade the community that you're taking money from.

00:15:59.780 So, like, why wouldn't you, I mean, why do you care about long-term best practices?

00:16:05.600 You don't.

00:16:06.140 You're just extracting wealth.

00:16:07.940 This is the spiritual part of the discussion, I believe.

00:16:11.080 You know, I was, my father was a 30-year conservationist and a pastor.

00:16:16.020 And I grew up, like, learning to love and appreciate the place.

00:16:21.360 I tell, I've said this before, but, you know, he legitimately made me believe that every sunset was made for me by God.

00:16:28.360 But we'd be driving and say, look at what God made for you.

00:16:31.340 And I still think of those things to this day, of just, like, those little pieces that made me appreciate creation.

00:16:37.720 And one of my favorite clips from your show ever, ever, is when you were on with Bobby Kennedy.

00:16:44.140 And he was having that discussion about how nature is, how we connect deeply with God.

00:16:49.080 Yeah, it makes me emotional thinking about it.

00:16:50.520 I couldn't agree more.

00:16:51.360 I sent that to so many people, and especially my father, because it's true, and it's language we don't use anymore.

00:16:58.640 It brings you to a higher place, and it helps you understand, like, this is much deeper than just who owns a piece of land or what's happening.

00:17:07.840 It's actually, like, we are connected to God through the land.

00:17:12.500 Through his creation.

00:17:13.440 It's on every page of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

00:17:16.160 That's, there's a lot of nature.

00:17:18.900 What's the Garden of Eden filled with?

00:17:20.960 Trees, rivers, animals, right?

00:17:23.940 And all the parables that have to do with that?

00:17:26.420 Yeah, of course.

00:17:27.000 So, that, of course, that's a systemic issue.

00:17:30.140 And let me say that that's been going on for a long time, and nobody's really talked about it.

00:17:35.400 You go to a cafe, every farmer's talking about these things, about, like, oh, do you see the,

00:17:39.260 we had a piece of land in Northwest Iowa recently go for $32,000 an acre, not development land.

00:17:47.080 Okay.

00:17:47.900 I'm interested, I'm a land buyer.

00:17:49.120 I'm interested in land.

00:17:49.860 I'm interested, you know, in all that.

00:17:52.640 How do you get to $32,000 an acre, even for, you know, famously productive farmland?

00:17:58.880 Like, what is that?

00:17:59.940 What's the potential return on that?

00:18:02.700 How did that happen?

00:18:04.180 Well, let's just say, commonly, we'll go to $20,000 an acre.

00:18:07.400 That's fairly common in Northwest Iowa.

00:18:08.840 It's some of the best land in the world.

00:18:10.660 That's bonkers.

00:18:11.060 It is.

00:18:11.420 It is.

00:18:11.780 And so, you know, look, outside investors look at Iowa as a great investment because

00:18:18.460 it's a solid asset.

00:18:20.280 Yeah, it's a hedge against the dollar, of course.

00:18:22.160 And you get a dividend, like you rent out the land.

00:18:24.860 And so, one of the things I kind of complain or opine about a lot is that our land isn't an asset class.

00:18:32.080 It's actually was meant as the inheritance for the sons and daughters of our state

00:18:36.700 to build their lives, their communities, and their families.

00:18:39.920 And when they're tenants on that land and they're paying high dollar rent,

00:18:43.840 because the only way you can justify a high price like that is very high rent.

00:18:50.980 You're stripping away a lot of, you know, go back to say it's like kind of the spiritual aspect of this.

00:18:56.140 And that land is best when it's owned and farmed by the same person.

00:19:03.400 We know this.

00:19:04.280 We know this from if you own rental properties or whatever it might be.

00:19:07.320 Like, there's a connection of stewardship that comes with that to know that I'm passing this piece of ground on

00:19:12.740 to my grandkids and their kids and their kids.

00:19:15.560 And that's what it should be.

00:19:16.740 But that is being actively taken away in our state.

00:19:22.560 It's two other things that I think are big systemic issues that are on my scorecard, as I'd say.

00:19:28.540 One is our farmers are actively being exploited by big ag companies.

00:19:34.160 When I was growing up, born in Iowa, we had over 300 seed and input companies,

00:19:41.180 you know, fertilizer and agrochemical companies that were selling to our farmers.

00:19:46.580 Today, that number's three.

00:19:48.200 That control 85% of the market.

00:19:51.080 Over 90% of seed technology is owned by two companies.

00:19:55.420 Monsanto?

00:19:56.400 Actually, it's Bayer and Corteva own 90% of this, of the, which owns Monsanto now.

00:20:02.800 Yeah.

00:20:03.120 Seed technology.

00:20:03.760 No, I, of course, but I forgot that Monsanto doesn't actually exist anymore, does it?

00:20:08.660 I don't think so.

00:20:09.480 They changed the name.

00:20:10.120 Yeah, it was bought by Bayer in Germany.

00:20:12.280 Yeah, they're sure mentioned a lot in court still, but, you know, they're not, they're not a company.

00:20:17.120 But, so, if you look at the long-term trend, that anytime there's a rise in commodity prices,

00:20:25.940 these input costs go up, even though there's not a direct correlating factor.

00:20:30.240 You know, there's a study out of the University of Illinois.

00:20:33.480 And this study compared the cost of farming in Brazil to the cost of farming in Illinois, Iowa.

00:20:40.120 Basically.

00:20:41.520 And you have to understand that the three big companies in America that provide these inputs

00:20:47.040 are also the same three big companies in Brazil.

00:20:49.340 Bayer, Corteva, and Syngenta.

00:20:50.660 That study said that for growing corn using the same application rate, that they're charging

00:21:00.240 Brazilian farmers about $150 less per acre than they are Iowa farmers.

00:21:05.460 How?

00:21:05.960 Well, the real answer is because they're an unchecked monopoly and competition doesn't exist.

00:21:13.320 There's tacit collusion.

00:21:15.040 But here's how it actually works.

00:21:17.560 They have what they call regional-based pricing.

00:21:20.160 But what it really is, is this.

00:21:23.580 When they look at their pricing, they base it on the yield that you're going to create.

00:21:29.280 So, let's say you have more productive land, even though you're using the same amount of product,

00:21:33.400 they're going to take more.

00:21:34.960 You have less productive land, even though you're using the same amount of product,

00:21:37.940 they're going to take more.

00:21:38.720 It's wrong.

00:21:43.700 You know, and I'll give credit to Brooke Rollins and Donald Trump and the administration.

00:21:47.980 They're talking about bringing antitrust and investing in this with the Department of Justice.

00:21:53.200 And one of the things I've pledged to do, that if I'm governor of Iowa,

00:21:56.900 I'm going to lead the charge to bring antitrust suits against these companies that are exploiting our farmers.

00:22:03.880 Because they're taking every dollar they possibly can.

00:22:06.660 And we're already on life support.

00:22:10.460 I mean, many, many, most farms are operating at a loss right now.

00:22:15.440 And when you talk to farmers about this, you do not, like, I can't emphasize this enough,

00:22:21.600 you do not hear them talk about tariffs.

00:22:24.440 They're not.

00:22:25.340 Matter of fact, the price of soybeans this year with the tariffs was higher than it was last year before the tariffs.

00:22:31.000 The change came that the cost of growing went up.

00:22:33.720 I mean, the cost of the input products that they're using went up.

00:22:38.320 And so, I tell people all the time, the tariffs are not the issue.

00:22:41.980 We have to get this unchecked monopoly in check and under control.

00:22:49.940 Obviously, inputs are essential to agriculture or to creating anything.

00:22:56.240 One of them is diesel fuel.

00:22:58.480 Not a lot of movement there.

00:23:00.880 But then you have the products that you just mentioned, seeds and fertilizer.

00:23:05.800 Taking out seeds, let's just focus on fertilizer. 0.99

00:23:10.020 What are the products like?

00:23:13.020 Well, I mean, it just depends on the most common product, you know, for fertilizers in hydrous ammonia.

00:23:19.200 It's used in the fall.

00:23:20.980 It's where a lot of nitrogen comes from.

00:23:23.820 But then you have other products that are, you know, products from earth, potassium, potash, those things.

00:23:34.760 But you look at the trend of the pricing in these, you know, I think it was five years ago.

00:23:41.120 In the past five years, nitrogen fertilizers went up 150% and the price of corn is down 2%.

00:23:46.740 So, farmers are, they're really being, I would say, extorted in this process.

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00:25:05.780 Tell you something I was really surprised by and I don't know much about it, but I was hunting on a farm in November right before Thanksgiving, a big, big, big working farm.

00:25:15.120 And I was with the ranch manager in a truck and he said, this is a truck we use to spray Roundup.

00:25:21.320 And I said, people are still using Roundup?

00:25:23.700 I don't know.

00:25:24.180 You know, I'm not in the ag business.

00:25:25.700 I thought Roundup was bad.

00:25:27.920 Yeah.

00:25:28.640 Again, I'm very ignorant, but I just thought I didn't realize that people are still spraying Roundup.

00:25:33.780 He said, oh, everyone sprays Roundup.

00:25:35.460 Like, everybody does and we kind of don't talk about it.

00:25:37.540 And I'm like, hmm.

00:25:39.560 I mean, is that, I'm not attacking Roundup specifically, but like, are we sure that these chemicals are all safe?

00:25:45.880 Well, you know, well, Roundup is the most high, it's the most highly used herbicide in the history of the country, the history of the world.

00:25:55.220 Because it's so effective.

00:25:56.400 I mean, I've seen it.

00:25:57.020 It's losing its effectiveness greatly.

00:25:59.340 Is that true?

00:25:59.840 Oh, yeah.

00:26:00.140 It has to be, you know, you'll have different mixtures now that'll go in because we're getting Roundup resistant, glyphosate resistant weeds.

00:26:08.400 And now there's a high percentage of weeds have glyphosate resistance.

00:26:11.500 So, you know, I think in some ways the life cycle of Roundup is kind of, it's going to be coming to an end on its own.

00:26:19.360 It's limited by nature.

00:26:20.300 It's limited by nature and new products are coming out.

00:26:22.460 But I will tell you this, when you talk about safety of products, well, let me back up and just talk about the companies.

00:26:29.460 I mentioned the three big companies that are controlling the ag input market, Bayer, Corteva, and Syngenta.

00:26:33.540 There's other ones.

00:26:34.240 But Bayer is a German company.

00:26:37.500 Yes.

00:26:37.560 Corteva is an American company.

00:26:40.600 Top shareholders are BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street of that company.

00:26:45.240 But Syngenta is a wholly owned state enterprise of the Chinese government.

00:26:51.160 Actually?

00:26:51.900 100%.

00:26:52.620 So, about somewhere on the end of 5 million acres in our state has chemicals and seed technology from a company that's a wholly owned company of the state of China, the country of China.

00:27:09.380 So, I mention that to say this, if you talk to farmers about some of these products, and, you know, like I said, glyphosate or Roundup is, you know, very ubiquitous to use.

00:27:23.420 But if you talk to them about products even many of them won't use anymore, you'll get to products like Paraquat.

00:27:31.260 Paraquat is, actually, it was really, originally formulated by Syngenta.

00:27:34.800 Paraquat was used in anti-drug spraying in Latin America.

00:27:42.400 It was very controversial for that.

00:27:44.220 And it'll burn down plants in a matter of hours.

00:27:48.560 But if you're exposed to Paraquat, your chance of Parkinson's doubles.

00:27:56.740 Matter of fact.

00:27:57.920 Actually?

00:27:58.640 Oh, yes.

00:27:59.460 Parkinson's?

00:27:59.980 Parkinson's.

00:28:00.240 There's people, if you.

00:28:01.220 That's something you don't want to get.

00:28:02.380 And if you go on X and you type in and you just, like, look at Paraquat, you'll find stories of farmers who just will not use it anymore.

00:28:09.360 They'll tell stories of, you know, spraying it and immediately getting, like, or that day getting, like, uncontrollable bloody noses.

00:28:16.000 It's a very, very harsh product.

00:28:18.580 And it's still spray.

00:28:19.660 I think the estimate, the best estimate is about 300,000 acres of land in Iowa use this product.

00:28:24.180 Like, this product is actually used in research settings in mice and rodents to induce Parkinson's.

00:28:32.840 Are you being serious?

00:28:34.420 I'm 100% serious.

00:28:36.640 And our EPA, and this is where the big issue lies, our EPA still allows it.

00:28:43.080 So, if we're talking about, like, are these products harmful?

00:28:46.640 I'm like, well, we can get into that more, but yes, we know.

00:28:51.700 If it doubles your chance of Parkinson's, you're going to have to explain the upside to continue selling that product.

00:28:59.020 I mean, my instinct is, like, well, you'd ban that today.

00:29:01.560 And I think that's what people.

00:29:04.140 Parkinson's?

00:29:04.600 Come on now.

00:29:05.340 That's true suffering.

00:29:06.860 Yeah.

00:29:07.360 It's a sentence you don't want.

00:29:09.180 No.

00:29:09.360 But when you can research this, your listeners can research this, it is used to induce Parkinson's in research settings.

00:29:19.080 I mean, so, so when I talk about these products, you know, I think what farmers want is to understand the truth.

00:29:27.780 To, like, know that their government is telling them the truth about these products.

00:29:30.920 It is.

00:29:31.780 But as with many other things, the corporate capture is so heavy.

00:29:35.380 And so, when you talk about glyphosate or glyphosate-based herbicides, Roundup is one of them.

00:29:40.480 There's many glyphosate-based herbicides.

00:29:43.000 The EPA has studied this for years.

00:29:46.720 We know way more than we've ever known about this.

00:29:51.340 And we also know that there are significant risks associated with its use.

00:29:55.800 And so, for example, one of the most known cases is the case of the groundskeeper in California, the first major lawsuit against Monsanto.

00:30:08.540 And this was a man whose job was to work for the school districts and spray glyphosate.

00:30:14.680 And the hose broke on his packer in his little cart, and it ended up showering him with this product.

00:30:24.340 In a matter of months, he had lesions all over his body.

00:30:28.160 And he sends emails to Monsanto asking, what should I do here?

00:30:34.180 I mean, they're very like, I need help.

00:30:36.200 Like, not, I'm trying to blame you.

00:30:37.780 He's like, what do I do to solve this problem?

00:30:39.880 Well, if you fast forward in that trial, when they were in the discovery process, the judge agreed to make a large portion of the discovery confidential, meaning that it wasn't to be released.

00:30:57.680 But the plaintiffs could challenge something or request the disclosure of it, and they could request a meet and confer to talk about him.

00:31:05.920 And they requested it at one point, and the Monsanto attorneys, I think, literally said the words, go away.

00:31:14.140 We're not going to disclose anything else.

00:31:17.080 But then there's-

00:31:17.720 Do I get to do that next time I get sued?

00:31:19.820 Go away?

00:31:20.600 Go away.

00:31:22.140 And so, but there was a stipulation there that said, if they didn't, if Monsanto didn't put in there another request to continue the confidentiality within 30 days, that the confidentiality was waived.

00:31:33.460 They forgot to respond.

00:31:34.620 And so now we have millions of pages of documents called the Monsanto papers.

00:31:39.420 Millions.

00:31:40.600 And in those documents, it is an absolute masterclass in corporate capture.

00:31:47.020 To the effect of, you know, that email that he sent to the company, they opened it, they read it, they forwarded it around, what should we do here?

00:31:55.040 And they just didn't respond to him.

00:31:57.180 I'm a man who's like hurting, who's-

00:32:00.520 Oh, the initial email, I'm covered in lesions from your product, what should I do?

00:32:03.740 What should I do?

00:32:04.440 Yeah, basically he was asking for help.

00:32:06.140 They read it, forwarded it around, what do we do with this?

00:32:08.800 Nobody responded to him.

00:32:10.500 And there's, he sent two of those emails, I believe it was two.

00:32:12.860 But in there's also things like, there was a time and place where another governmental body was going to be doing a study on the safety of glyphosate or Roundup in this case.

00:32:25.400 And the EPA official that Monsanto was working with at the time got wind of this.

00:32:33.020 And in the email with the Monsanto official, he's recounting his conversation with this EPA official.

00:32:42.040 And in it, he said, this, the official said to him on the phone, he quotes it in the email, if I can kill this, I should get a medal.

00:32:51.140 And he did.

00:32:53.020 He prevented this other governmental body from doing their own independent research on the safety and effectiveness of glyphosate, of Roundup.

00:33:00.860 Come on now.

00:33:01.900 This is real.

00:33:02.700 This is out there.

00:33:03.340 This is 2000-

00:33:04.100 This is the regulator?

00:33:05.100 This is the regulator.

00:33:07.140 Yes.

00:33:08.360 And so, this is out there.

00:33:11.600 And other egregious examples of this.

00:33:14.440 And I say this to say this, very often I'm talking to farmers who I love, who are my friends and my neighbors and my family.

00:33:20.320 And I am one of them.

00:33:21.760 We actively farm our own land.

00:33:24.180 I work with young farmers to help them have an opportunity to be on land.

00:33:28.340 We share crop.

00:33:29.520 But I'm in there.

00:33:30.880 I'm doing this.

00:33:31.540 The most common comment I get from people is if it wasn't safe, they wouldn't let me use it.

00:33:37.120 And I'm just here to say, that's a lie.

00:33:39.820 Just like they were captured during COVID and the medical establishment captured agencies, just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting right now and Donald Trump is fighting right now.

00:33:48.100 These agencies have been captured for a long time and they've been lying to the consumers about the safety and efficacy of their products.

00:33:55.100 And my whole goal here, I'm not here to sit and say we should ban X, Y, or Z. 0.88

00:33:59.660 That's not what I'm talking about.

00:34:00.400 I mean, I think there's certain things like Paraquat probably should not be used.

00:34:04.720 I mean, not probably.

00:34:05.500 If it doubles your risk of Parkinson's, like hard no.

00:34:09.340 Hard no. 1.00

00:34:09.860 It shouldn't be used.

00:34:12.460 But what I want is good science so farmers can say, do I want to use this product?

00:34:18.640 And we can say, should this product be allowed?

00:34:21.060 And also know if I'm going to use this product, this is how it should be used.

00:34:24.540 When you have commercials, we know how glyphosate enters the bloodstream.

00:34:29.400 We know that if it's on your skin, about 30% enters your bloodstream.

00:34:34.760 About 10% of that is through cardiac output, about 10% goes into your bone marrow.

00:34:40.500 In bone marrow, glyphosate disrupts the replication of hematopoietic stem cells.

00:34:47.240 They're differentiating from red to white.

00:34:49.300 It's genotoxic.

00:34:50.900 There's 50 studies that show this.

00:34:52.640 Like, we know how it happens.

00:34:54.100 And yet there's commercials showing people using this product in flip-flops and shorts.

00:34:59.220 Just saying, like, be cavalier about it.

00:35:01.660 We have many products we use.

00:35:04.500 You go into my shop at the farm.

00:35:06.160 There's many products on the shelf that, if they're used improperly, are bad for your health.

00:35:10.620 And they warn about that on the label.

00:35:14.740 These do not.

00:35:16.180 Not in that same way.

00:35:19.060 But in these papers were also examples like this.

00:35:23.680 In 2000, there was a study called the Williams Study.

00:35:27.400 It's the most cited study on the safety of glyphosate.

00:35:30.960 The most cited.

00:35:32.060 99.9% of all papers that cite the safety of glyphosate cite this study.

00:35:38.980 Last month, that study was retracted because it was found that Monsanto executives wrote it.

00:35:46.520 Wrote the study.

00:35:48.300 But here's maybe even the worst part.

00:35:50.440 We found that out in 2017, and it was retracted in 2025.

00:35:56.340 The Monsanto executive actually said, when he's sending this back, he better not have any revisions.

00:36:01.660 That's what he said.

00:36:05.080 And so, look, you know, I think oftentimes when you talk about this subject, especially in my home state,

00:36:12.260 there's this desire to paint you as some liberal hippie that doesn't like farming.

00:36:18.160 Like, I'm the exact opposite of that.

00:36:20.100 I can tell.

00:36:20.600 I actually think that wokeism is a mental disorder that's trying to destroy our country.

00:36:25.860 Of course.

00:36:26.260 And that we have got to fight to protect our culture, our people, and our heritage.

00:36:30.560 But I also believe that our government has been captured in large part, and this is one of the most egregious examples.

00:36:38.400 It's really simple.

00:36:39.240 If, you know, why do you love the country?

00:36:41.400 One of the reasons you love it is because of its physical beauty, the landscape.

00:36:46.180 I mean, America is great because it's got great people and because it's inherently great.

00:36:50.640 It's just beautiful.

00:36:51.600 And anyone who's despoiling nature is an enemy of the country.

00:36:54.740 Super simple.

00:36:55.560 Anyone building ugly buildings, spraying poisonous chemicals, those are our enemies.

00:37:00.300 Those are not our friends.

00:37:02.120 I don't think it's complicated at all.

00:37:04.100 And that's not the liberal position.

00:37:05.600 The liberals are the ones who are putting solar, bulldozing trees to build solar farms.

00:37:11.120 Let's just be clear about what this is.

00:37:14.340 It's an aggressive, coordinated effort to defile God's creation by people who hate God.

00:37:21.380 Not hard.

00:37:22.620 Abortion is directly related to building strip malls. 0.72

00:37:25.560 Sorry.

00:37:26.400 They're both destructions of beauty and of God's creation.

00:37:30.440 That's what I think.

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00:39:40.440 And here's the thing.

00:39:42.240 I think farmers agree with a lot of this.

00:39:45.020 And of course they do.

00:39:46.420 They're looking to say, like, look, number one,

00:39:49.440 many of these guys would like to try different things.

00:39:51.660 But when you're operating in razor thin margins,

00:39:53.940 the idea of trying a new method of farming is not that appealing.

00:39:58.220 Because like, what if it doesn't work?

00:39:59.840 And I actually can't, you know, keep the farm next year.

00:40:03.340 And so these are our people that enjoy hunting, enjoy fishing, enjoy nature, want to be outdoors.

00:40:09.720 Like, this is our culture.

00:40:11.100 That's what we like.

00:40:12.100 And you're right.

00:40:12.620 Like, we are the environmentalists.

00:40:15.540 Like, obviously.

00:40:16.320 We are the people that want to keep that and keep God's creation.

00:40:20.000 You think Bernie Sanders spends a lot of time outside?

00:40:21.760 You think AOC can identify a tree species?

00:40:24.440 I mean, these are people who are rejecting nature, rejecting beauty, rejecting anything that is natural and pure and trying to defile it.

00:40:34.120 That's their program.

00:40:35.120 Yeah.

00:40:35.400 Well, and they've been completely captured by this, like, this religion of carbon.

00:40:40.780 But it's insane.

00:40:43.440 And so carbon is not, I'm, by the way, emitting it right now.

00:40:49.360 Carbon is not the problem.

00:40:50.880 Carbon is the basis of life.

00:40:52.480 The problem is man-made poisons.

00:40:55.540 So how's the health?

00:40:56.500 Okay.

00:40:57.120 So I was still primarily in ag state, obviously.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, we are absolutely.

00:41:03.940 Well, you have ag in all 99 counties, correct?

00:41:06.040 Yes.

00:41:06.460 Ag is the largest industry.

00:41:08.260 And kind of come to the last point of, like, that scorecard I mentioned to you.

00:41:13.060 It's like, we have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization.

00:41:20.700 What?

00:41:21.480 Yes.

00:41:22.260 Can you repeat that?

00:41:23.300 We have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization.

00:41:28.240 Iowa?

00:41:28.840 Iowa.

00:41:29.960 Iowa.

00:41:30.240 Matter of fact, if you live in one of the top counties for cancer in our state, they're all rural counties, your lifetime chance of getting cancer is one in two.

00:41:40.860 And if you take Iowa as a whole, and you compare it to, say, a state like Nevada.

00:41:47.360 Nevada actually has fairly low cancer rates.

00:41:49.640 In any given year.

00:41:50.760 Nevada is the highest smoking rate out of 50 states, but one of the lowest cancer rates.

00:41:55.580 Iowa has very low smoking rates, very low smoking rates relative, certainly to Nevada, and has a really high cancer rate.

00:42:04.040 I'm just, just, not a scientist.

00:42:06.660 I'm just noticing.

00:42:07.280 I just, I picked Nevada because I needed to pick a state that I was like looking at.

00:42:10.740 Nevada is the highest smoking rate in America.

00:42:12.400 Look it up.

00:42:13.180 So, if you choose to live in Nevada over Iowa, in any given year, your chance of getting cancer is 40% less.

00:42:21.780 I've, I've, why have I never heard this before?

00:42:23.540 40%.

00:42:23.900 If you take the top county for cancer in our state, and you compare it, 70% less.

00:42:30.960 Actually?

00:42:31.520 Actually.

00:42:32.720 And is the top county in Ag County?

00:42:34.940 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

00:42:35.920 It's not Des Moines.

00:42:36.720 No, no, no.

00:42:37.960 Actually, there's lower rates of cancer.

00:42:39.760 I mean, per capita, of course, in those, in those places.

00:42:42.960 For real?

00:42:43.560 In your population centers, they have lower cancer?

00:42:46.700 It's, the top 10 counties are all rural counties.

00:42:49.720 So, you can say that people who are spending the day outside getting physical exercise 12 months a year,

00:42:55.240 when those people have higher cancer rates than someone working in a cube in Des Moines,

00:43:01.060 then you start to think, hmm, maybe there are external factors we should be looking at.

00:43:04.760 You know, as I brought this up, I find myself, this is so interesting, I find myself with a genuine care because, like I said, I'm not trying to tell farmers how they have to farm.

00:43:15.820 I'm not trying to tell everybody they have to farm like me.

00:43:17.860 Like, we run a regenerative farm, lots of it's organic.

00:43:21.000 My goal is to help Iowans live longer, healthier lives, help farmers make more money, and help kids stay on farms for longer.

00:43:30.040 Sounds like it's the farmers who are being abused here, they're the victims here.

00:43:33.500 A hundred percent.

00:43:34.200 They're the ones getting cancer.

00:43:35.780 It's a hundred percent, and that's, you know, and I'll talk to farmers about this, or I'll talk to people that, you know, maybe are big in the ag community,

00:43:42.160 and they hear these talking points, they'll say, like, applicators of these products have lower cancer rates.

00:43:47.800 And they're not wrong.

00:43:50.420 That's actually an accurate statement, meaning farmers, in general, as a whole, can have lower cancer rates.

00:43:57.060 But when you hone in specifically on non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, leukemia, they have much higher cancer rates.

00:44:03.880 The lifestyle of the job is going to give you more exercise.

00:44:07.600 It's going to put you out.

00:44:08.360 And so, there are these things that lower it, but you hear these industry talking points about, like, actually, they're lower in total.

00:44:15.180 It's like, yeah, but your chance of getting these specific cancers linked to these products is much higher.

00:44:21.860 And so, even with the rate of cancer in our state, you know, I'm in a governor's race right now.

00:44:29.820 And even with the rate of cancer in our state, there's not one person talking about these things that I'm talking about right now with the likely causes of the cancer in our state.

00:44:41.080 We hear things like—

00:44:41.860 Do you fear you'll be attacked as a liberal for bringing this up?

00:44:44.300 I fear most that—it's not a fear, but most, I think, that the ag associations, especially the ones that are not member-driven, you know, that are constituted by actual farmers, that take large checks from the companies that I'm mentioning right now, I think the most likely scenario that everybody's warned me about is they're just going to come and try to destroy me.

00:45:08.100 I'm literally here because I could get into tears thinking about the people that I know that have gotten cancer.

00:45:14.720 My own father got it.

00:45:15.800 He was a crop consultant, so his job was to go into fields, check for pests, weeds.

00:45:22.220 I used to do this with him as a child.

00:45:23.900 I had a lot of fun doing it.

00:45:27.740 He'd write a report, and he'd bring it back to the farmers, and this was part of his job.

00:45:31.180 He did it very well, and this is just the norm.

00:45:33.060 It's what you did.

00:45:34.240 And he'd recommend, this is what you should apply.

00:45:36.120 He did that for over two decades, and he was diagnosed with one of these exact types of cancer.

00:45:44.600 And that's what really, I think—

00:45:46.840 How old was he?

00:45:47.900 He was 60.

00:45:49.860 Ouch.

00:45:51.240 Well, Tucker, this is maybe where—

00:45:52.680 I'm sorry.

00:45:53.700 Thank you.

00:45:54.520 He's in remission now, thank the Lord.

00:45:56.940 But this is where I think this hits home spiritually, too, is that I think Iowans, and myself included, you know, about three and a half months ago, I went back to my hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for the funeral of my best friend from high school for his father.

00:46:12.860 He died of cancer, again, in the 60s.

00:46:15.180 And I used to tell people, like, I don't know how many more of these funerals of men and women in their 60s I can go to when their parents lived to be 80.

00:46:25.820 Like, we're losing the wisdom of an entire generation of people.

00:46:28.860 That's for sure.

00:46:30.320 And—

00:46:30.640 When life expectancy goes down, it's not progress.

00:46:34.020 Oh, so I tell people, and this is more the political way to say it, look, we can have amazing—I'll say this.

00:46:41.540 I often tell people, I'm not running for office because of policy, I'm running because of culture.

00:46:46.520 And they say, well, what does that mean?

00:46:48.180 And I'll say, look, ask a Republican in Dearborn, Michigan, how much he cares about his tax rate.

00:46:55.260 Or does he care that the Muslim call to prayers on the loudspeaker five times a day, and he doesn't know where he's waking up anymore, and his culture's gone?

00:47:04.020 We have to protect our culture.

00:47:05.940 Our founders intended that to be the case.

00:47:08.880 We have a huge amount of talk about founders, primarily when it comes to fiscal issues and things like this.

00:47:14.440 We forget that—I think it was John Adams that said something along the lines of, public virtue is dependent on private virtue.

00:47:24.920 And public virtue is the only foundation of a republic.

00:47:29.760 And so, we hear these things, and this is a bit of a tangent here, Tucker, but I've had to have a bit of a realization on this and to understand better what's going on.

00:47:43.180 Because I grew up in an era where libertarian thinking was very pervasive.

00:47:49.720 It was all over the place.

00:47:50.440 I agreed with much of it, and there's still things I do agree with.

00:47:52.920 I was a fellow at the Cato Institute, so you don't need to apologize in my presence.

00:47:56.800 No, I know what you mean.

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00:49:42.340 And I think what that amounted to is there's so many people have subscribed to what I call this religion of economic thinking.

00:49:50.180 This idea of market fundamentalism, that the market matters above all.

00:49:54.700 And I say, that's not what our ancestors believed.

00:49:57.560 It's not what our founders believed.

00:49:58.580 How has it worked?

00:50:00.500 Exactly.

00:50:01.300 I say about our ancestors, they didn't come here to become capitalists.

00:50:05.480 They came here to own the ground under their feet, to build their churches and communities, and pass something on to the next generation.

00:50:12.480 To their children, of course.

00:50:13.720 But they didn't come here to do it at the detriment of their neighbors.

00:50:16.580 They actually came here to do it helping their neighbors.

00:50:19.440 Well, you obviously are a communist.

00:50:21.360 I have to tell you, the amount of arguments that I hear from this generation that has subscribed to this religion of economic thinking, which, by the way, our founders did not support.

00:50:32.040 They were in favor of tariffs.

00:50:33.640 The states all had laws.

00:50:35.760 Primarily all of them had laws to protect moral virtue.

00:50:39.080 This was a part of what they did.

00:50:40.900 They knew it.

00:50:41.680 And they knew because the state has a role in that.

00:50:44.820 And we were, we are a Christian nation with a Christian form of government.

00:50:50.580 Like our constitution could not have been created by any other religion. 0.95

00:50:53.700 You're not endowed by a creator.

00:50:55.080 You're not, you don't have inalienable rights.

00:50:58.660 In Christianity, you do.

00:51:00.680 The divinity of the individual is real.

00:51:03.620 We're made in the image of God.

00:51:04.720 And so, I have these arguments with people where I'm saying, look, 25% of our lands owned by our state investors, I'd like to raise their property taxes.

00:51:15.400 I'd like to disincentivize this thing that's been happening in our state and create a new category of tax for investment land for people that are coming in and prospecting.

00:51:26.820 And I'm just, this is socialism.

00:51:28.600 This is communism.

00:51:29.560 I'm just saying.

00:51:30.740 Who says that?

00:51:31.700 It's, this is what gets me.

00:51:34.580 Self-defense is immoral now.

00:51:36.780 Right.

00:51:37.440 That's basically what they're saying.

00:51:38.560 Protecting your-

00:51:38.920 You're not allowed to defend yourself.

00:51:40.840 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 I would just say this.

00:51:41.760 Right.

00:51:42.100 Iowa is not an economic zone for the world or for the country.

00:51:46.900 It's not.

00:51:47.840 You're upsetting me.

00:51:48.660 Yes, I agree.

00:51:50.100 And so, but when I say this, it's oftentimes people that were, you know, that were, oftentimes it's people that were really affected by the economic thinking.

00:52:01.700 That came out of the Chicago School of Economics.

00:52:04.520 And I, when I trace much of this back, I look at what happened in the 1980s.

00:52:08.740 I think Ronald Reagan did a lot of great things.

00:52:11.040 But there's also this market fundamentalism that really took over.

00:52:16.800 And then you look at what's been the repercussions of that, this idea that unrestrained capitalism is what we worship.

00:52:25.520 Or that it even is capitalism.

00:52:26.960 That it even is capitalism because oftentimes it's, it's corporatism.

00:52:30.360 Of course.

00:52:31.200 Just oligarchical.

00:52:31.620 Always.

00:52:32.440 Exactly.

00:52:32.760 Or that free trade is the ideal.

00:52:36.580 It's like, even the fathers of modern economics, Adam Smith, even David Ricardo, who is a person that basically developed the idea of comparative advantage.

00:52:46.840 It's a big thing.

00:52:48.300 Yes, free trade is good if you protect your national interest first.

00:52:51.880 Like, for instance, the micro, the silicon microchip was invented by a man from Iowa, Robert Noyce with Intel.

00:53:01.140 And then you look at what's happened now in our country from a product that was invented in our country.

00:53:08.260 We produced 10% of them.

00:53:11.600 And all, basically all of the high-tech versions of this, we can't produce.

00:53:17.100 We don't have the technology.

00:53:17.780 So the ones that would be a military application are coming from somewhere else.

00:53:22.200 So there's this idea that, that, that the market matters overall.

00:53:27.520 I'm saying, no, that's, that's not, we don't worship the market.

00:53:31.140 Like, the most egregious example of this, I think, is when you look at what happened through free trade in the Rust Belt and throughout the Midwest.

00:53:44.640 Where you had people that were told that, you know, their jobs were being shipped overseas, but they'd be replaced by high-tech jobs that then they'd be trained by, which by the way is a lie.

00:53:56.140 It didn't happen.

00:53:56.780 Matter of fact, the biggest benefits that came from that were for the leaders of large companies that chose to do what Adam Smith said not to do, which was, you know, free trade was about, was about one country doing something really well, another country doing another thing really well.

00:54:15.180 Right.

00:54:15.400 And they exchange.

00:54:18.860 A comparative advantage in the market isn't exploitative labor conditions of a communist government.

00:54:25.840 That's not, that's not included in the comparative advantages.

00:54:28.880 It's not.

00:54:29.000 Adam Smith didn't foresee that.

00:54:30.500 No.

00:54:30.800 And so like when capital's mobile and you can move all of these factories to one place to, to get cheap labor, everything's going there.

00:54:40.520 And then, so who got rich off that?

00:54:43.080 Well, large companies got rich and then pharmaceutical companies got rich that preyed off purposeful, purposeless white males who lost their work.

00:54:52.400 Of course.

00:54:53.320 In large part.

00:54:54.140 The Sacklers.

00:54:54.860 And it creates.

00:54:55.880 Still billionaires.

00:54:56.660 Never went to jail.

00:54:58.480 And like, as I say this, I get like goosebumps because it's like, this is just wrong.

00:55:06.360 Oh yeah.

00:55:06.880 I mean, the hundreds of thousands of deaths that have come from this, when you take work and purpose away from people and you sell them a lie that then it's going to be replaced by these high tech jobs or high tech training for jobs.

00:55:20.780 And it doesn't happen.

00:55:22.080 And then you have these practices where people are, you know, like, here's a new customer.

00:55:26.540 We can get them addicted.

00:55:28.540 There's a stat I read.

00:55:30.040 It's almost like it was on purpose.

00:55:31.340 You know, in 2016, the World Economic Forum had that article that was published, still online.

00:55:42.220 I don't know why they still have it on today.

00:55:43.920 But it talked about this idea that in the future, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:55:49.480 And I tell people, like, that wasn't a joke.

00:55:52.680 It wasn't a threat.

00:55:53.680 It was a plan.

00:55:54.860 Oh, of course.

00:55:55.600 And it's happening.

00:55:56.540 Oh, I know.

00:55:57.000 And so, there, I think many people in our country just feel as if there's this large plan or effort that's being executed that we're not privy to.

00:56:10.640 Yeah.

00:56:10.740 But we have these psyops that happen that, like, that come up and we're fed them through news or something like that to get on board with it.

00:56:24.540 I think what we just talked about is probably a large part of that.

00:56:27.520 But this idea that we're going to take away meaningful manual labor with your hands, which, by the way, is, like, maybe second to farming, that type of work, is really gratifying because you're creating a product for others.

00:56:39.800 I do it in my spare time.

00:56:40.800 Like, I can't wait to get off work and do it.

00:56:42.540 Not because I'm great at it or something, but because it's so rewarding.

00:56:47.120 It's so refreshing.

00:56:48.860 It feeds something.

00:56:50.300 It feeds a real hunger, I think, in all men.

00:56:53.000 And so, yes, no, it's, like, my primary form of relaxation.

00:56:56.160 I just love it.

00:56:56.840 And I think every man feels that way.

00:56:59.560 I agree.

00:57:01.360 Man, you look at some of these channels on social media that have taken off.

00:57:06.780 Oh, yeah.

00:57:07.160 It's so much of this.

00:57:08.500 Because it's like, and they're, like, addicting.

00:57:11.080 It's like, I love watching, gosh, even the bushcraft videos of people making these houses.

00:57:15.020 They're amazing.

00:57:15.760 Or how about Pakistani metalworking videos?

00:57:18.120 You ever watch those?

00:57:18.860 Yes.

00:57:19.000 That's a whole genre.

00:57:20.120 Those guys are amazing.

00:57:21.400 I've never really liked Pakistan. 1.00

00:57:23.540 Spent time in Pakistan.

00:57:24.360 You watch those videos, you're like, I'm pretty pro-Pakistan.

00:57:27.240 Just the ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is not high, by the way, but it's just, like, these are men making things out of raw materials.

00:57:35.000 And it's just a thrill to watch that.

00:57:36.920 Yeah.

00:57:37.160 And they're proud of what they create.

00:57:39.140 A hundred percent.

00:57:39.760 And they ought to be.

00:57:40.540 They should.

00:57:40.940 And they have my respect.

00:57:42.740 Yeah.

00:57:44.560 And me as well.

00:57:45.720 And I would just say that I look at this from the standpoint of you'll own nothing.

00:57:50.780 And I look at this large narrative that's happening in our country.

00:57:54.000 I mean, you know this, but even in Iowa, Blackstone is buying single-family homes.

00:57:58.780 There's another company in Council Bluffs that's doing as well, multi-billion dollar real estate investment trust.

00:58:03.440 It's buying up single-family homes.

00:58:04.960 In Council Bluffs?

00:58:06.020 Council Bluffs.

00:58:06.580 That's a tough town.

00:58:07.600 Yeah.

00:58:07.840 Went across the river from Omaha.

00:58:10.340 Yeah.

00:58:10.560 It wouldn't be your first choice.

00:58:11.840 I mean, that's how ubiquitous this is, right?

00:58:14.680 It's like it's-

00:58:15.140 Council Bluffs.

00:58:15.740 Council Bluffs.

00:58:16.540 Yep.

00:58:17.320 And then you look at our farmlands being bought by people that don't live here.

00:58:22.360 And even when you get back into agriculture and you look at, you know, Iowa's a top pork-producing state in the country.

00:58:28.900 Yes.

00:58:30.220 What most people don't know is, I think, somewhere above 75% of the pork that's raised in Iowa, the farmers don't own the pigs.

00:58:38.040 Of course not.

00:58:38.560 They're on contract from one of the big four agriculture conglomerates, Cargill, Tyson, JBS, and National.

00:58:49.140 So, we're having this pride in our work, this pride in our land, the health of our people.

00:58:57.340 We're having these major issues come up.

00:58:59.920 Well, Sue, can I just ask you, I mean, that does, so you will own nothing and be happy is a very famous phrase.

00:59:04.740 And thank you for reminding us that it was 10 years ago that it first emerged and that it was real.

00:59:09.280 It was not a meme at that point.

00:59:10.460 It was like a statement of intent.

00:59:12.080 But I think that has obscured the even darker reality, which is not only will you not own anything, you won't create anything.

00:59:22.400 I personally, just speaking for myself as a middle-aged man, I would rather at this stage create than own.

00:59:27.580 I like both, but the joy, the thing that proves that you are made in God's image is your ability to create because God is the creator.

00:59:37.980 Yeah.

00:59:38.140 And when you create something, it's the whole purpose of being here, whether it's children or harmony or a pair of reading glasses.

00:59:48.800 Creation, making something out of nothing is the main joy in life.

00:59:54.200 And when you take that away, no wonder people are on fentanyl.

00:59:58.060 Yeah.

00:59:59.200 Right?

00:59:59.760 Well, also, I think maybe missing like the biggest one of those is speech.

01:00:04.100 Well, exactly.

01:00:04.740 Of this right here, of what you're creating.

01:00:06.520 I like to believe that's a form of creation.

01:00:07.860 It is.

01:00:08.540 That's it.

01:00:08.980 It's like, I spent my life talking.

01:00:10.460 Speech is that.

01:00:11.640 And that is that.

01:00:13.180 And this is where I believe that we get bogged down in the policy and the politics of this whole thing.

01:00:22.660 And we forget about the grander story of who we are as a people that we're endowed by our creator, that we're here for a big purpose.

01:00:31.020 You know, I spent a number of years building schools.

01:00:36.100 And one of the things we'd say is that we believe every young person is a hero on their journey to find a calling and change the world.

01:00:44.500 Like, that was the inspirational line that we would say basically every day.

01:00:51.080 Like, that's who we are.

01:00:51.820 That's why we're here.

01:00:52.900 And a lot of this creation has been, is being taken away, as you mentioned.

01:01:01.700 And AI is not the least of which.

01:01:03.660 I tell my kids all the time, look, use AI for research.

01:01:07.380 Never let it write for you.

01:01:09.580 Writing is how you organize your thoughts.

01:01:12.360 It's how you can think something through to separate the wheat from the chaff, to understand how to think critically, to test your ideas, and then get in debate and things like that.

01:01:24.300 You can't have a machine do that.

01:01:25.500 It's a uniquely human thing is for us to come up with these ideas based on our unique life experiences.

01:01:32.600 It's like stealing joy.

01:01:33.340 It's like saying, eat a steak for me, have sex for me, you know, wake up at dawn and watch the sunrise for me.

01:01:38.780 No, I'll reserve those to myself because those are the greatest pleasures in life.

01:01:43.520 And creating something is number one on that list of joy.

01:01:47.920 It's like, why would you ever outsource that to a machine?

01:01:50.500 I don't understand that.

01:01:51.680 Did you see the commercial for the product that basically records like your grandmother?

01:02:00.260 You'll record them when they're alive.

01:02:02.360 And then after they pass away, it creates basically an avatar of them.

01:02:07.100 But the actual-

01:02:07.500 So you can steal my memories and replace them with the creation of a machine?

01:02:11.700 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:02:12.520 This is real though.

01:02:13.960 It's actually, as I say, it's like for the longest time, we accepted technology.

01:02:19.000 And look, farming is a big, in this too, it's like, look.

01:02:21.760 It reduced the burden of labor.

01:02:23.780 And there's a certain point to that that's probably good.

01:02:26.800 Meaning like hand plowing a field is a really difficult task.

01:02:30.660 Using a tractor, okay, that's probably okay, right?

01:02:33.940 It is okay.

01:02:34.520 Obviously, I'm joking.

01:02:35.280 But then when you start to see what it's being used for now to replace human beings,

01:02:40.800 meaning you can continue to have conversations with this grandmother long after she's passed away

01:02:46.840 and she'll give you her unique thoughts.

01:02:49.380 Well, that's completely stripping away the divinity of humanity.

01:02:53.400 This idea that we're creating God's image, that we each have something unique to share,

01:02:57.480 and that humanity is something to be protected and is very special in the history of the universe.

01:03:05.120 It's very special.

01:03:07.200 And so like, let me just say this.

01:03:08.960 A lot of my campaign comes down to this question.

01:03:12.880 I was reading an essay by Wendell Berry.

01:03:15.600 You know, it's funny.

01:03:16.560 As you were talking, I was just thinking of Wendell Berry.

01:03:19.020 And I was going to say, apropos of nothing, I love Wendell Berry.

01:03:22.760 I thought maybe he's never heard of Wendell Berry.

01:03:25.840 I love that you read Wendell Berry.

01:03:27.520 I love Wendell Berry.

01:03:28.720 As a matter of fact, his essay on 9-11 was so radical.

01:03:31.540 I think it got taken off the internet, but it was like so good.

01:03:34.820 You know, I maybe shouldn't say this on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has an autopilot feature.

01:03:41.240 And there's a period of time when I'd be driving with my kids somewhere and I might like, you know, pull out the Wendell Berry poem book and give them.

01:03:50.460 And so on the way to school, I was talking to my sister-in-law yesterday about Wendell Berry poems, literally yesterday.

01:03:55.860 I would actually have the kids take turns in the car reading a poem.

01:03:59.880 No way.

01:04:00.960 Because look, understanding these ideas, I don't know if there's other than faith,

01:04:07.480 and they're tied in together, inextricably woven together are the ideas that Wendell Berry puts forward in the ideas of our faith.

01:04:13.540 You can't separate them because it's about creation.

01:04:16.780 Yes.

01:04:17.180 It's about protecting that and understanding that we were told to tend the garden.

01:04:22.560 We're told to subdue, but not destroy, of course.

01:04:25.720 And so I would have the kids read this because it's like, I want you guys to know, like, look, if I'm gone tomorrow

01:04:30.640 and you knew two things about me, that I loved my savior and I loved the creation.

01:04:38.060 Yes.

01:04:38.500 I'd be very happy.

01:04:39.380 And I hope that, you know, if that's the only two things you remember about me,

01:04:41.940 and you just had to keep reflecting on those two things, great.

01:04:44.360 You're making me emotional again.

01:04:46.540 Sorry.

01:04:47.420 But in this essay, I was actually in the Atlantic.

01:04:51.240 If you're listening to Wendell Berry poems in the car with your kids, like, tell me where the fundraiser is because I'm going.

01:04:58.380 Because I just, we need more of this in America.

01:05:01.740 So he had this poem, this essay he wrote in the Atlantic, I think it was 1991.

01:05:08.080 And somebody, some quote I read turned me on to that.

01:05:11.620 And I was like, I wonder what this is.

01:05:12.480 So I went and read the whole thing.

01:05:13.900 And in it, he talked about this idea.

01:05:16.700 And I think this summarizes so much what I'm talking about.

01:05:19.700 When I say, our farmland's being owned by people that don't live here. 1.00

01:05:23.980 Our jobs are being shipped to other countries.

01:05:26.140 Our factories are being shipped to other countries.

01:05:28.040 We have unchecked monopolies that are exploiting our farmers.

01:05:32.000 We have the highest cancer rate, but we're not talking about it.

01:05:36.660 Wendell Berry said that a foundational question that the Amish ask before they make any big decision.

01:05:43.900 Is, what will this change do to our community?

01:05:47.980 Yes.

01:05:48.840 And I think, I don't know anyone who would deny that our politicians and our leaders have not been asking that question for a very long time.

01:05:57.100 That is absolutely right.

01:05:58.260 And that is absolutely right.

01:05:59.840 And we don't ask ourselves enough, how will this change us and our relationships and our understanding of God and the world?

01:06:06.020 And I think that of labor-saving devices, I find myself, I'm the product of, you know, America at its peak.

01:06:13.340 And there's not enough labor, actually.

01:06:16.540 And I find myself trying to eliminate labor-saving devices from my life merely so I will have the experience of labor.

01:06:22.760 Yeah.

01:06:23.260 We hand-grind our coffee.

01:06:24.400 Don't have to do that.

01:06:25.340 Why do we do that?

01:06:26.160 I always say to my befuddled and grumpy children, like, because we're not depending on electricity for everything.

01:06:33.380 You can grind your own coffee.

01:06:34.840 It's okay.

01:06:36.040 And I just feel like that, and obviously I'm insane, so that informs a lot of my decisions.

01:06:40.660 It's my lunacy.

01:06:41.560 But it also speaks to, like, a need in all people to be involved in the production of something.

01:06:49.740 Yeah.

01:06:50.320 Right?

01:06:50.960 Oh, absolutely.

01:06:51.520 Like, DoorDash is, I'm not against DoorDash, but, like, not that I've used it, but, like, I don't know.

01:06:57.280 You gain something, but you also lose something.

01:06:59.380 That's all I'm saying.

01:07:00.120 Yeah.

01:07:01.620 When you feel the feeling of accomplishment, it's a liberating feeling.

01:07:08.800 Yes.

01:07:09.140 It's a feeling that brings pride, and I would say this.

01:07:11.500 It's a feeling that brings pride that also, if you understand your own history of your family and your story, that you can connect it to what's happened generation and generation and generation before.

01:07:21.120 I think so much of where we've went wrong is that, you know, I was at a, gosh, I was at a funeral for a woman that I loved dearly.

01:07:31.720 Her name was Becky Elder, and she was an agrarian from Kansas and, you know, lived in Kansas for a while, and she was somebody who started schools.

01:07:40.740 She was an amazing woman.

01:07:41.740 I mean, like, this could get me emotional, but I was at her funeral about a week ago, and she was, I would call, a daughter of the prairie, like, loved creation, tended it, had their own farms, all these things, and her son was reading something about her, and he said,

01:08:06.380 one of the most common sins is forgetting, forgetting where we come from, forgetting our heritage, forgetting that these places really matter, and so, like, when I'm in my community, and I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded with, in large part, you know, it's like many of, many of these places feel forgotten, especially by our politicians,

01:08:35.240 who didn't ask these questions of, what will these changes do to our community?

01:08:40.300 I have a defensive mechanism that comes up in me to say, like, I'm going to hear it. I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to do it.

01:08:47.060 And I don't know what that is. I don't know where that came from, but I would just say that God put something on me to say, look, maybe I win this governor's race, maybe I don't.

01:08:56.320 My whole life is going to be focused on these issues, because they're issues of caring for your neighbor.

01:09:03.180 And it's the one of the two commands I've been given by Jesus.

01:09:09.900 And so, you know, that's why we work with, you know, we could do farming a different way, and I could make more money on that.

01:09:18.660 I have a family that I love, that I want to, like, work with, specifically because it's additive to the whole equation.

01:09:26.520 You know, when my great-grandparents were living on the farm, I found all these documents, and I hear stories about them from the community.

01:09:39.020 You know, what's so interesting is, like, we talk about, we don't know who owns our land.

01:09:42.900 You know, before, when I was growing up, and I'd talk about these pieces of land, we've bought some of these pieces because the people have passed on, and oftentimes they'll want to sell to us because they know where my heart is, and they don't want it to go into an auction, and they don't want it going to somebody from out of state or out of the country.

01:09:58.480 We don't know.

01:09:58.840 So, we call the pieces of land by the last name of the people that lived there forever.

01:10:05.340 Of course, always.

01:10:05.820 We do the same.

01:10:06.520 That's what we do.

01:10:07.200 That's exactly right.

01:10:08.060 And it's honoring.

01:10:08.640 Like, I've told my wife, I plan to put up plaques or signs saying, like, this is this farm.

01:10:14.040 This is the history of this farm.

01:10:15.340 That's exactly what we do.

01:10:16.280 That's exactly right.

01:10:17.280 And that's exactly the way to do it.

01:10:19.420 And so, when I was talking early on about this idea of something lost, I remember hearing some of these stories, and one of the stories I really loved was that,

01:10:28.220 you know, my great-grandmother, my great-grandpa, when they were on this farm, you know, these Iowa communities used to be dotted with these small farmsteads all over.

01:10:40.440 Many of them have just been bulldozed and farmed over because, you know, people are growing and growing and growing farm.

01:10:45.120 Consolidation's happening everywhere.

01:10:46.580 Of course.

01:10:47.220 And with the consolidation, every time a farm's consolidated, I say to people, life goes out of our community.

01:10:52.080 Like, we have to get our young people back on these farms. 0.99

01:10:54.380 One of my biggest, biggest efforts I'm going to be undertaking is to do that.

01:10:58.220 And they were so tight-knit in these communities that people would tell me, you know, we used to come over to your house, this house.

01:11:06.140 Coffee was on until 10 p.m. at night.

01:11:08.860 And your great-grandma and your great-grandpa were actually the counselors of our neighborhood.

01:11:13.740 So, they had these groups.

01:11:14.840 And so, if husband and wife were having an issue, they'd come over and they'd sit and talk this through.

01:11:21.040 If they're having issues with kids, they'd sit and talk these things through.

01:11:23.980 And they cared for each other and they're involved in each other's lives.

01:11:28.240 And we're experiencing, likely, the exact opposite of that trend happening.

01:11:35.080 And it's having a profound effect on our culture where we're becoming insular and othering.

01:11:44.280 You know, just because you have a bumper sticker that somebody doesn't like that they're not to be talked to.

01:11:49.720 Just not, not at all.

01:11:52.000 Like, not what defined us back then.

01:11:54.420 No.

01:11:55.080 Not at all.

01:11:55.820 And we're not allowed to behave like that anyway.

01:11:57.760 My dream for the state of Iowa is to see a long-term, rich agrarian society.

01:12:05.160 Like, a long-term, rich agriculture heritage be restored.

01:12:08.960 That's my dream.

01:12:10.020 And that's what I'm fighting for.

01:12:12.180 Boy, that's got to be one of the toughest battles you could fight.

01:12:16.400 But it's worth it.

01:12:18.780 It's foundational, not just to the state, but to us as a people.

01:12:23.280 I think it's something in, like, our soul that, like, working with our hands, in the dirt, with animals, with family, multiple generations.

01:12:31.800 There's a book by a guy named Alan Carlson, I think it was.

01:12:34.540 It's called The Natural Family and Where It Belongs.

01:12:37.960 And I had another, basically, radicalizing moment for me.

01:12:40.300 It was reading this and realizing, this man said so many things that I didn't know how to say.

01:12:44.460 Just that, that setup of farmstead and neighboring farmstead that care for each other and that did a lot of life together was the most in-tuned and connected, I think, spiritually, we could probably say we have been as a society or a community.

01:13:04.080 And I would like to see that return.

01:13:05.720 What, I don't quite, we met at an event a couple of months ago, a very crowded event and had, like, a three-minute, I'd never heard of you.

01:13:15.800 We had a three-minute conversation.

01:13:17.180 I was like, whoa, I want to talk to that guy.

01:13:20.320 So I should just confirm to anyone who's still watching this an hour in that you talk this way in private, too, which I love.

01:13:30.300 But what do people in, like, official organized Iowa politics think when you say stuff like this?

01:13:39.580 You know, in longer form of discussions, I find that it's very, very good.

01:13:46.180 But I think that politics has been so overtaken with this, like, bumper sticker ideology.

01:13:52.620 Yes.

01:13:53.920 Which is, like, I think somebody once said a bumper sticker is a substitute for thought or something like that.

01:13:59.600 For sure.

01:14:00.940 And so, and also, I just think I'm not the typical person that would run for office.

01:14:08.400 Like, I really...

01:14:09.740 That's putting it mildly.

01:14:12.220 I really like, I've really worked hard to, you know, be on our farm, to farm it, to have my kids understand that, to work in education and these types of things.

01:14:22.060 I really worked hard to do that.

01:14:23.360 This was not something that I had, just, like, saying, you know what?

01:14:27.260 Timing's like, I've been waiting for this forever.

01:14:29.240 We're doing this.

01:14:31.040 It was more that I thought, you know, there's no term limits on the governor of Iowa.

01:14:36.320 The longest serving governor in the history of America is Iowa's former governor, Terry Branson.

01:14:40.740 So, in my head and in my heart, as I was talking to my wife about this, it's like, the next person who gets elected governor could be governor until I die.

01:14:50.260 Oh, yeah.

01:14:50.840 Well, look at your senior senator.

01:14:53.420 Emphasis on the senior.

01:14:54.540 I like him.

01:14:55.040 I'm not attacking him.

01:14:55.980 But he's served for a couple hundred years, I think.

01:14:58.000 It's like that quote when Ronald Reagan said, I knew Abraham Lincoln and you're no Abraham Lincoln.

01:15:06.020 I love that.

01:15:08.020 But it's, you know, so, politics is not the place for long form, deep and spiritual discussion.

01:15:16.020 And I wish it was.

01:15:17.920 Yeah.

01:15:18.340 Because I think if it was, you'd require people running for office to connect with you at a deeper level, to actually understand what you're going through.

01:15:27.040 And to know that they care about those issues.

01:15:31.140 Because, you know, I don't care how low our taxes are.

01:15:36.460 If, I'll say this, if our kids are leaving and our people are dying from cancer, we are not in what I'd call successful territory.

01:15:46.320 That's exactly right.

01:15:47.760 And the beauty of economics is, it's supposedly a species of science, which means it can be tested.

01:15:54.640 So, if you have an economic system in progress longitudinally over a period of time, then you can assess with the highest degree of accuracy whether it worked or not, right?

01:16:04.400 Because you look at the outcomes.

01:16:06.100 And by that measure, socialism, communism is like the worst possible failure.

01:16:10.560 Our current system is not anything like that, but it's not a win, it's a failure because look around.

01:16:17.080 So, like, what we're doing isn't working.

01:16:18.680 Yeah.

01:16:18.920 I don't care what they tell you at some think tank or what should happen.

01:16:22.260 And I've lived long enough to see what actually happened.

01:16:25.320 And no.

01:16:26.560 Yeah.

01:16:26.960 It doesn't work.

01:16:29.040 And look at some of these new ideas that are coming out.

01:16:32.400 Which, by the way, it's like the fact that these have to be stated is kind of crazy.

01:16:36.760 And then the fact that we get pushback on it.

01:16:39.360 Like, I'm somebody who firmly believes that the priorities of my government and my economy should be solely focused on making life better for the people that live in my state and my country.

01:16:51.620 Like, not racist.

01:16:53.300 Not, not for big business, not for foreign countries.

01:17:00.120 Like, and I think so many people just thought that was the case.

01:17:04.060 And then, like, meaning, like, people that are, we're not really paying attention, but it's like the politicians are all telling me, like, we're going to work on this low tax.

01:17:10.980 We're going to work on this thing.

01:17:11.800 It's like, but hold on.

01:17:14.320 What, just a day ago, 81 Republicans voted to keep $315 million of spending for the National Endowment for Democracy?

01:17:27.040 What?

01:17:27.860 Yeah, not on your side.

01:17:29.380 It's right.

01:17:30.340 And it's like, after everything that Elon Musk went through, after all of what these people did, all of what they took in the news, all of, like, the conflicts and relationships that have broke down into this, that one thing that we know is a front organization, in large part, is now getting hundreds of millions of dollars from our government and Republicans are voting yes on it?

01:17:51.100 Of course they are.

01:17:52.120 It's like, we're not learning anything.

01:17:54.220 But it's like, the idea, how am I laughing?

01:17:58.720 Because I don't know what else to do.

01:18:00.120 Well, how could you ever deny the existence of the Uniparty at this point? 0.70

01:18:03.280 Oh, I know.

01:18:04.140 Well, you have a very prominent Republican senator and presidential candidate working with the ADL to suppress the speech of Americans.

01:18:13.040 And so it's like, hmm, maybe the current system isn't what they tell you.

01:18:18.360 But people know that it's fake.

01:18:20.800 And I guess the good news is we still have enough elbow room, enough freedom in the United States that, you know, reform is possible.

01:18:27.100 If enough people are like, no, come on now.

01:18:29.940 You have to serve our interests, sort of, or at least acknowledge them.

01:18:33.740 Yeah, you would hope so.

01:18:35.060 I think, like, this vote specifically is quite the conundrum to that point, right?

01:18:40.480 Like, this all just happened.

01:18:42.840 Well, I could name eight other things that have happened in the last month.

01:18:45.860 And you're like, this is so unbelievable.

01:18:48.780 It's so outrageous.

01:18:49.960 Like, it can't continue.

01:18:51.020 The internal contradictions have reached the point of breaking.

01:18:53.380 And like, oh, we're getting something new.

01:18:54.640 And then it's just like, oh, on to the next.

01:18:57.800 Yeah, you're right.

01:18:58.480 It'll be gone in a week.

01:18:59.760 In a week?

01:19:00.500 It's gone now.

01:19:01.320 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:02.660 But to that point, I think this is why this idea of running for governor is so appealing.

01:19:09.620 It's like, maybe I'm wrong for saying this, but I've largely written off Washington, D.C.

01:19:16.320 Oh, I think that's fair.

01:19:17.160 And it's like, if the people that we've put in power, now granted, I will say there's some huge, huge shining stars.

01:19:25.160 I think what Robert F. Kennedy is doing, unbelievable.

01:19:28.200 The repercussions of this for positive health benefits of Americans will reverberate for generations if it can stay in place.

01:19:38.900 Because he's going to help an entire generation of people become far more healthy, live better lives, meet their great-grandkids, potentially.

01:19:48.580 Like, that's amazing.

01:19:49.500 And have clearer heads and purer spirits.

01:19:52.940 It's like, just start with, like, just the government should not officially endorse eating 1,000 pounds of sugar a year.

01:20:00.100 Just that right there.

01:20:01.960 Yeah.

01:20:02.220 Flipping over the nutrition tables into something that more closely resembles reality.

01:20:07.340 That's a huge step.

01:20:08.640 Reducing the vax schedule from, like, you know, a million vaccines for the newborn to, you know, a smaller number.

01:20:16.060 You got to call that a win.

01:20:17.340 That's a win.

01:20:17.800 And it's also something that I think we believe, why are we even having to have this fight?

01:20:23.060 Oh, well.

01:20:23.720 But, you know, like, somebody asked me the other day, what do you think the most pressing issue facing America is?

01:20:31.200 And, like, taking out the spiritual, because spirituality is intertwined, but taking that out, it said, I think it's that our government is run by unelected people and we don't know who they are.

01:20:41.140 Yeah.

01:20:41.380 Without our best interest at heart, at all.

01:20:46.140 And so, this idea of America first, of Iowa first, it's like, to many of us, this is just common sense.

01:20:51.680 It's like, this is what the country was set up for.

01:20:54.220 What's the other form of government that's legitimate?

01:20:56.480 I can't think of one.

01:20:57.780 If this is a democratic republic and the government is acting in an interest that's not our interest, how is that legitimate?

01:21:05.680 How is it not grounds for, you know, anyway.

01:21:08.840 Right. There's no other legitimate form of government but America first or Iowa first. 0.76

01:21:15.940 Like, that's the only option.

01:21:17.780 And how we got away from that is unbelievable.

01:21:20.280 And, like, look, I was talking to my dad about some of these things the other day and, you know, some things you can think and know but not exactly know how to describe or put into words.

01:21:28.920 And I get that feeling when I think about the shift that our country clearly went through after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

01:21:36.980 Well, that's it. Right there.

01:21:38.200 It seemed as if something spiritual happened at that point within our country and it has to do with the complete disregard for truth, honesty.

01:21:49.200 Yeah.

01:21:49.880 Or, like, the American public deserving to know what's happening.

01:21:53.400 And then, you know, I read a tweet one day.

01:21:57.100 I don't know who said it.

01:21:58.200 Maybe it's Russell Brand or somebody that said something along the lines of, like, the future success of our country and the Kennedys is, like, intertwined in some way.

01:22:07.100 It's true.

01:22:07.240 And so, it is true.

01:22:09.700 I never used to believe that.

01:22:10.920 And I would hear these baby boomers say that was the day everything changed. 1.00

01:22:13.920 And they were silly.

01:22:15.860 They were not serious people.

01:22:17.260 But they could feel something that was true.

01:22:20.180 And that was clearly true.

01:22:22.020 That a lot did change.

01:22:23.620 Everything changed when he was assassinated in a way that I did not appreciate until he was much older.

01:22:29.240 But they were right.

01:22:30.180 They were right in saying that. 0.98

01:22:31.380 And the fact that 63 years later, you know, CIA still will not, this is a fact, will not divulge all the information that it has on his murder, despite a bunch of laws from Congress, despite an executive order from the President of the United States a year ago.

01:22:47.500 They're still hiding it.

01:22:48.820 Clearly, there were, you know, probably a lot of people involved, probably a foreign country clearly involved, our own government clearly involved.

01:22:57.520 So, like, and they're still lying about it.

01:22:59.240 It's wild.

01:23:01.000 But if the truth sets you free, then lies enslave you.

01:23:07.020 Yeah.

01:23:07.300 And the obverse is true.

01:23:08.340 So, I think we are enslaved in some sense by these lies.

01:23:12.900 You know, I think where I see this most is in the newest generation of people that are coming up, you know, coming of age, so to speak.

01:23:22.160 And there's some very loud voices out there that they're all flocking to.

01:23:26.320 One in particular that you've interviewed.

01:23:28.120 And people ask me all the time, like, why do I think that is?

01:23:31.540 And I just say, guys, look at the lies.

01:23:35.960 Exactly.

01:23:36.360 Look at what's happened.

01:23:37.340 Look at the lack of justice.

01:23:38.940 The lack of accountability.

01:23:40.180 Like, we don't, like, where's Fauci?

01:23:45.640 Like, what about the Hunter Biden laptop?

01:23:48.840 When are these people going to be arrested?

01:23:50.400 I said this about Trump 10 years ago when I lived in Washington.

01:23:52.560 I'm a product of Washington, obviously.

01:23:53.820 And I wrote a piece.

01:23:55.900 Basically, Trump is popular because you failed.

01:23:59.560 And it wasn't an endorsement of everything Trump said, though.

01:24:01.860 I like Trump and voted for him.

01:24:04.260 But it wasn't, it's not about Trump.

01:24:06.420 Like, Trump wouldn't have existed if the system was working.

01:24:10.160 And the same is true of the person you're referring to, whose name shall not be named.

01:24:15.940 But no, no, but it's true.

01:24:17.360 It's like we argue about, is he good or bad?

01:24:20.540 Does, is he, you know, whatever.

01:24:22.140 But the argument's not really about him.

01:24:23.840 It's about the system that allowed someone like that to become popular.

01:24:26.700 It's like, why do you think people are watching that?

01:24:28.540 Because you failed.

01:24:30.920 You betrayed your own voters.

01:24:33.560 Yes, yes, that is right.

01:24:36.060 Yes.

01:24:36.700 And, and look, one of the biggest issues that's come up is about, you know, immigration.

01:24:43.840 Yeah.

01:24:44.460 It's all over.

01:24:44.920 And I think for a long time, we have been criticized, ostracized for noticing what's happening and calling it out to say, like, what's happening?

01:24:56.400 And, you know, there's this idea of replacement migration, this replacement theory.

01:25:02.320 And, like, I don't ever talk about this, but it's like, people talk about it and they're immediately just hammered down.

01:25:09.320 Well, in 2000, the UN put out a document called Replacement Migration.

01:25:14.120 Of course.

01:25:15.240 144 pages, multiple languages.

01:25:17.020 But I read this and it's like, it's lining out exactly what's happening.

01:25:21.460 Of course.

01:25:21.800 And it's saying, look, European nations are going to be losing population.

01:25:25.960 You know, America's going to be losing population.

01:25:28.300 What's the answer?

01:25:28.880 Well, traditionally, throughout history, the answer is to promote having more children.

01:25:34.420 Make it easier for people who have kids.

01:25:35.600 Yes.

01:25:35.760 Make life more affordable.

01:25:37.500 Right.

01:25:37.800 Bring home the money that's being spent overseas and use, I mean, imagine, you just talked about Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:25:44.840 Imagine what our country would be if we didn't spend $10 trillion on that. 0.91

01:25:50.400 Yeah.

01:25:50.640 Imagine what we could have done for our children and our communities.

01:25:56.440 So, when you look at this and you're called this conspiracy, I'm not called that because I don't ever talk about this, but people are called conspiracy theorists for bringing up this idea of Replacement Migration.

01:26:07.120 They literally wrote a white paper on it.

01:26:09.020 Of course.

01:26:09.460 And they described what it was going to do.

01:26:10.980 And then you look at these people that are feeling like, you know, especially young white males, like they're being taken out of society.

01:26:17.420 They're being told they don't matter.

01:26:18.600 Matter of fact, they had this original sin of being who they are.

01:26:23.260 It's unbelievable.

01:26:25.120 And then you, in the-

01:26:25.920 Sounds like a dangerous conspiracy theory.

01:26:27.380 You ever look at the census numbers?

01:26:29.760 Oh, yeah.

01:26:30.240 Right.

01:26:30.520 So, again, we can just bring science to bear on this.

01:26:32.900 Is the native population being replaced?

01:26:34.560 I don't know.

01:26:35.040 Let's check the census.

01:26:36.580 Answer, yes.

01:26:37.360 How about we do it by zip code?

01:26:39.300 I'm 56, so let's go back to 1970.

01:26:42.180 It's not the census of 1970.

01:26:44.300 Just spend an afternoon reading that.

01:26:45.920 So, anyone who tells you you're a bigot or you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing is, you know, is lying and probably lying in order to hurt you.

01:26:59.800 And, Tucker, why?

01:27:01.880 It's like, why are we not allowed to have and appreciate and love our culture?

01:27:09.460 And why are we also not allowed to let people in that want to be a part of that culture?

01:27:13.260 That's the whole idea.

01:27:14.180 People ask me how to pronounce my last name.

01:27:16.280 And it's L-A-H-N, but it's pronounced Lane.

01:27:18.540 Well, why is that?

01:27:19.620 Well, my great-great-grandpa, when he came over, he wanted to keep the German spelling, but he wanted to be a pronounced American.

01:27:25.720 And they took on the American customs, and they became American.

01:27:29.360 Yeah.

01:27:29.720 That's what it was.

01:27:31.060 And the idea that we're saying that this is...

01:27:33.520 How did the family pronounce it in Germany?

01:27:37.180 I was told it was pronounced L-A-R-N.

01:27:39.800 L-A-R-N. 1.00

01:27:40.080 L-A-R-N. 1.00

01:27:40.240 That's right.

01:27:40.860 And that's what I was told someday, as you could probably imagine.

01:27:44.000 I'm going to go over there and dig as deep as I can in all this stuff, because it's...

01:27:47.360 You know, some people get the bug for learning this about their family.

01:27:50.200 I am that human.

01:27:51.020 Like, I love this.

01:27:52.240 Like, I love learning about my history and heritage.

01:27:55.280 And you know what?

01:27:56.760 Like, 150 years in America is a thing to be very proud of.

01:28:01.200 Yes, I agree.

01:28:02.140 But also, like, they likely did not want to leave where they were at.

01:28:06.560 They didn't want to go three weeks on a boat in the stowage.

01:28:10.560 You know, from northern Germany?

01:28:11.820 Northern Germany.

01:28:12.620 And on my mom's side, actually, the family's been here since the Revolution.

01:28:16.140 Actually, my great ancestor, direct great ancestor, died in the Revolutionary War.

01:28:20.440 Me too.

01:28:20.780 And so, these voices of people who understand the culture that our ancestors created, and

01:28:31.420 it's something to be so proud of, it's so inclusive, it reduces suffering, it is welcoming

01:28:35.660 to people, but the idea that you can come in and try to put something else over top of

01:28:42.220 that...

01:28:42.660 And Charlie Kirk said this beautifully.

01:28:44.860 He said something...

01:28:46.440 I'm going to butcher his words, and I'm sorry for that.

01:28:48.900 I first met him in 2011, I think.

01:28:52.060 We were speaking at the same event.

01:28:55.280 I said something along the lines of, the reason we're in a constitutional crisis is because

01:28:59.100 we have a Christian form of government, but we have elected people that are not following

01:29:06.520 that custom and religion.

01:29:09.220 They hate Christianity. 0.64

01:29:09.740 And so, you're going to have a constitutional crisis.

01:29:12.860 You're going to have fraud all over the place.

01:29:14.760 You're going to...

01:29:15.320 Of course.

01:29:15.900 Your institutions will break down.

01:29:17.660 Because the system was a bespoke system.

01:29:19.800 It was created for the people who lived under it.

01:29:22.840 And you've got different people, so you're going to get a different system.

01:29:25.600 Yeah.

01:29:25.980 It was created.

01:29:27.500 Not a value judgment.

01:29:28.440 It's just an observation.

01:29:29.620 Yeah.

01:29:30.100 It was created.

01:29:32.080 Zach Lane.

01:29:33.100 Amazing, amazing conversation.

01:29:34.380 I'm intentionally not going to ask you about the politics of it.

01:29:37.920 You're going to have plenty of time to talk about that.

01:29:40.160 But I think this gives...

01:29:43.520 Anyone who has, again, watched to this point is either like, oh my gosh, I'm sending this

01:29:50.320 man money, or stop him! 0.99

01:29:54.780 But I am interested to like when...

01:29:57.320 Really quick, last question.

01:29:58.920 What is the process from here on out?

01:30:01.140 So, our primary election's June 2nd.

01:30:04.360 Okay.

01:30:04.660 And then, if we win the primary, then the election's in November.

01:30:08.840 How many people in the primary?

01:30:10.320 There's five people in the primary right now.

01:30:12.880 And so, I believe we have a really, really good shot at this.

01:30:15.560 And I believe our message, the time for the message that we're saying is now.

01:30:19.540 And I think there's been a void that's been there.

01:30:29.740 And people are wanting politicians and people running for office, because I've never ran for

01:30:33.940 office.

01:30:34.180 I'm not a politician.

01:30:35.480 They're wanting people that will speak truth to them and that will talk about the big issues,

01:30:40.240 even if the donors and the special interests say, I've told them, I don't want your money.

01:30:46.240 I'm not looking for your money.

01:30:47.640 I'm actually here to stop a lot of the practices that you're putting in place.

01:30:54.460 And so, I've said, I'm my own biggest donor to this campaign.

01:30:56.660 I will not be bought.

01:30:57.860 It won't happen.

01:30:59.900 Oh, boy, they're going to try and stop you.

01:31:03.700 It's not radicalism that scares them.

01:31:05.960 It's quiet, sincere determination, I would say.

01:31:09.480 So, Godspeed.

01:31:11.360 Thank you.

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01:31:17.640 Thank you.

01:31:18.860 Thank you.

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01:31:23.560 Thank you.

01:31:24.540 Yeah.

01:31:24.840 Thank you.

01:31:26.680 Thank you.

01:31:27.900 Thank you.

01:31:28.720 Thank you.

01:31:29.380 Yeah.

01:31:30.140 Thank you.

01:31:30.840 Thank you.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - February 23, 2026

Rising Cancer Rates, the Globalist Agenda, and the Big Business Land Grab Making You Poor

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