00:03:19.960Yeah, and being completely changed on the outside.
00:03:23.460But I went to my dad's cousin, Peter, and he just kind of had the repository of great-grandma's photos.
00:03:30.480And so I got this palette of boxes of photos.
00:03:33.760And I spent, I'm not kidding, hundreds of hours going through photos.
00:03:37.400And I was looking for every photo I could find of this old farmhouse.
00:03:39.680And I'll tell you, to anybody who wants to be radicalized on what we've lost as a culture, spend that much time going through your great-grandmother's photos.
00:04:02.700And I found every single picture I could find.
00:04:05.080And I put the house back together, board by board, counted every single piece of siding, make sure it matched.
00:04:09.980And now we live in the home that was built by my great-great-grandfather.
00:04:16.060And I tell people, I didn't do that so I could run for governor.
00:04:19.440I mean, I started doing this over 10 years ago.
00:04:23.160I did it because I wanted my children to understand their story.
00:04:26.340And their heritage and their culture, what built them, the man who built this house, who I bet hoped someday my kids would live in it, but knew he would never meet them, that that story matters deeply.
00:04:44.780And so that's what really got me into this.
00:04:47.320You know, I was not looking to run for the seat.
00:04:50.720And as I was talking to my wife about this, the current governor of Iowa, who, by the way, has done a very good job.
00:04:58.760I mean, we're likely, other than Florida, maybe one of the most conservative states, and she's done a great job at that.
00:05:07.580You know, when we were looking at this, my wife said, you know, the seat hasn't been open in 20 years.
00:05:13.800And there are issues in our state that are not dealing with taxes, that are not dealing with regulations, that are systemic, deep issues that are really causing our people to be hurt.
00:05:28.400And it was kind of from her, this moment of, hey, you know, put up or stop talking about it, because this is an opportunity to go make real change.
00:05:39.740So you said there are systemic issues that are not included in the normal palette of politician concerns, which would be taxes and regulation.
00:05:49.260Just in order of importance, can you go through a few of them?
00:05:52.500Well, I think, you know, I've spent my life in large part as an entrepreneur.
00:05:57.180And in businesses, organizations I've run or started, I have key metrics that I'm tracking to know the health of my companies or the health of an organization.
00:06:05.860And, you know, I think, I think on that list for a state is the physical climate of it.
00:06:17.340But there's other deeper issues that I think are more long-term in focus that we, you know, because of this, like, constant news cycle of what's happening right now that we all have to respond to, which, thank God, I'm not running for a federal office because it's, like, never ending and always changing.
00:06:34.120But because of, because of that, often we're distracted or our eyes are taken off the ball purposely from the big issues.
00:06:58.020Another one would be, you know, 25% of our farmlands now are owned by out-of-state investors and funds that don't live in our state.
00:07:07.540So, our farmers, who have had this ancestral connection to the land, are now becoming tenants again, something we left Germany in large part for.
00:07:19.380You know, just take a side quest here for a second.
00:07:23.000I remember when I was doing a lot of that research in my family to understand a lot about the history and what drove them to leave this homeland of theirs.
00:07:33.200You know, because Iowa's made up, you know, 35, 40% German immigrants that came over.
00:07:37.540Very industrious people, very family-oriented people, people that had pride in the work that they do.
00:07:44.180Objectively, some of the best people ever.
00:08:50.280Well, what state came online in 1846 was Iowa.
00:08:53.720And it was also very agrarian, just like where they came from.
00:08:58.120And so, many of these people came over.
00:08:59.300And I like to talk about this, that, you know, one of the key points in Iowa's history that I'm most proud of is how Iowans responded during the Civil War.
00:09:12.560So, you know, we had the Missouri Compromise.
00:10:30.140And I believe, and there's some evidence, of course, I haven't read deeply in this, that they had just left a country that they saw oppression in.
00:10:40.140And they fled that, left everything, and they were saying, this isn't going to happen here.
00:10:46.220So, I think when you talk about land, and you talk about now 25% of our land is now owned by people that don't live in our state.
00:10:52.740They're not contributing to our communities.
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00:15:35.500And so one of the things as governor that I want to do is require human-level disclosure of land ownership, because I would bet that it's actually more than 25% of our lands.
00:15:48.420By the way, if you don't, you know, have to bear the consequences of your actions, then you're much more likely to exploit and degrade the community that you're taking money from.
00:15:59.780So, like, why wouldn't you, I mean, why do you care about long-term best practices?
00:16:51.360I sent that to so many people, and especially my father, because it's true, and it's language we don't use anymore.
00:16:58.640It brings you to a higher place, and it helps you understand, like, this is much deeper than just who owns a piece of land or what's happening.
00:17:07.840It's actually, like, we are connected to God through the land.
00:25:05.780Tell you something I was really surprised by and I don't know much about it, but I was hunting on a farm in November right before Thanksgiving, a big, big, big working farm.
00:25:15.120And I was with the ranch manager in a truck and he said, this is a truck we use to spray Roundup.
00:25:21.320And I said, people are still using Roundup?
00:25:39.560I mean, is that, I'm not attacking Roundup specifically, but like, are we sure that these chemicals are all safe?
00:25:45.880Well, you know, well, Roundup is the most high, it's the most highly used herbicide in the history of the country, the history of the world.
00:26:00.140It has to be, you know, you'll have different mixtures now that'll go in because we're getting Roundup resistant, glyphosate resistant weeds.
00:26:08.400And now there's a high percentage of weeds have glyphosate resistance.
00:26:11.500So, you know, I think in some ways the life cycle of Roundup is kind of, it's going to be coming to an end on its own.
00:26:52.620So, about somewhere on the end of 5 million acres in our state has chemicals and seed technology from a company that's a wholly owned company of the state of China, the country of China.
00:27:09.380So, I mention that to say this, if you talk to farmers about some of these products, and, you know, like I said, glyphosate or Roundup is, you know, very ubiquitous to use.
00:27:23.420But if you talk to them about products even many of them won't use anymore, you'll get to products like Paraquat.
00:27:31.260Paraquat is, actually, it was really, originally formulated by Syngenta.
00:27:34.800Paraquat was used in anti-drug spraying in Latin America.
00:30:37.780He's like, what do I do to solve this problem?
00:30:39.880Well, if you fast forward in that trial, when they were in the discovery process, the judge agreed to make a large portion of the discovery confidential, meaning that it wasn't to be released.
00:30:57.680But the plaintiffs could challenge something or request the disclosure of it, and they could request a meet and confer to talk about him.
00:31:05.920And they requested it at one point, and the Monsanto attorneys, I think, literally said the words, go away.
00:31:14.140We're not going to disclose anything else.
00:31:22.140And so, but there was a stipulation there that said, if they didn't, if Monsanto didn't put in there another request to continue the confidentiality within 30 days, that the confidentiality was waived.
00:31:40.600And in those documents, it is an absolute masterclass in corporate capture.
00:31:47.020To the effect of, you know, that email that he sent to the company, they opened it, they read it, they forwarded it around, what should we do here?
00:32:10.500And there's, he sent two of those emails, I believe it was two.
00:32:12.860But in there's also things like, there was a time and place where another governmental body was going to be doing a study on the safety of glyphosate or Roundup in this case.
00:32:25.400And the EPA official that Monsanto was working with at the time got wind of this.
00:32:33.020And in the email with the Monsanto official, he's recounting his conversation with this EPA official.
00:32:42.040And in it, he said, this, the official said to him on the phone, he quotes it in the email, if I can kill this, I should get a medal.
00:32:53.020He prevented this other governmental body from doing their own independent research on the safety and effectiveness of glyphosate, of Roundup.
00:33:31.540The most common comment I get from people is if it wasn't safe, they wouldn't let me use it.
00:33:37.120And I'm just here to say, that's a lie.
00:33:39.820Just like they were captured during COVID and the medical establishment captured agencies, just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting right now and Donald Trump is fighting right now.
00:33:48.100These agencies have been captured for a long time and they've been lying to the consumers about the safety and efficacy of their products.
00:33:55.100And my whole goal here, I'm not here to sit and say we should ban X, Y, or Z.
00:41:30.240Matter of fact, if you live in one of the top counties for cancer in our state, they're all rural counties, your lifetime chance of getting cancer is one in two.
00:41:40.860And if you take Iowa as a whole, and you compare it to, say, a state like Nevada.
00:41:47.360Nevada actually has fairly low cancer rates.
00:42:43.560In your population centers, they have lower cancer?
00:42:46.700It's, the top 10 counties are all rural counties.
00:42:49.720So, you can say that people who are spending the day outside getting physical exercise 12 months a year,
00:42:55.240when those people have higher cancer rates than someone working in a cube in Des Moines,
00:43:01.060then you start to think, hmm, maybe there are external factors we should be looking at.
00:43:04.760You know, as I brought this up, I find myself, this is so interesting, I find myself with a genuine care because, like I said, I'm not trying to tell farmers how they have to farm.
00:43:15.820I'm not trying to tell everybody they have to farm like me.
00:43:17.860Like, we run a regenerative farm, lots of it's organic.
00:43:21.000My goal is to help Iowans live longer, healthier lives, help farmers make more money, and help kids stay on farms for longer.
00:43:30.040Sounds like it's the farmers who are being abused here, they're the victims here.
00:43:35.780It's a hundred percent, and that's, you know, and I'll talk to farmers about this, or I'll talk to people that, you know, maybe are big in the ag community,
00:43:42.160and they hear these talking points, they'll say, like, applicators of these products have lower cancer rates.
00:44:08.360And so, there are these things that lower it, but you hear these industry talking points about, like, actually, they're lower in total.
00:44:15.180It's like, yeah, but your chance of getting these specific cancers linked to these products is much higher.
00:44:21.860And so, even with the rate of cancer in our state, you know, I'm in a governor's race right now.
00:44:29.820And even with the rate of cancer in our state, there's not one person talking about these things that I'm talking about right now with the likely causes of the cancer in our state.
00:44:41.860Do you fear you'll be attacked as a liberal for bringing this up?
00:44:44.300I fear most that—it's not a fear, but most, I think, that the ag associations, especially the ones that are not member-driven, you know, that are constituted by actual farmers, that take large checks from the companies that I'm mentioning right now, I think the most likely scenario that everybody's warned me about is they're just going to come and try to destroy me.
00:45:08.100I'm literally here because I could get into tears thinking about the people that I know that have gotten cancer.
00:45:54.520He's in remission now, thank the Lord.
00:45:56.940But this is where I think this hits home spiritually, too, is that I think Iowans, and myself included, you know, about three and a half months ago, I went back to my hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for the funeral of my best friend from high school for his father.
00:46:15.180And I used to tell people, like, I don't know how many more of these funerals of men and women in their 60s I can go to when their parents lived to be 80.
00:46:25.820Like, we're losing the wisdom of an entire generation of people.
00:46:30.640When life expectancy goes down, it's not progress.
00:46:34.020Oh, so I tell people, and this is more the political way to say it, look, we can have amazing—I'll say this.
00:46:41.540I often tell people, I'm not running for office because of policy, I'm running because of culture.
00:46:46.520And they say, well, what does that mean?
00:46:48.180And I'll say, look, ask a Republican in Dearborn, Michigan, how much he cares about his tax rate.
00:46:55.260Or does he care that the Muslim call to prayers on the loudspeaker five times a day, and he doesn't know where he's waking up anymore, and his culture's gone?
00:47:05.940Our founders intended that to be the case.
00:47:08.880We have a huge amount of talk about founders, primarily when it comes to fiscal issues and things like this.
00:47:14.440We forget that—I think it was John Adams that said something along the lines of, public virtue is dependent on private virtue.
00:47:24.920And public virtue is the only foundation of a republic.
00:47:29.760And so, we hear these things, and this is a bit of a tangent here, Tucker, but I've had to have a bit of a realization on this and to understand better what's going on.
00:47:43.180Because I grew up in an era where libertarian thinking was very pervasive.
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00:50:21.360I have to tell you, the amount of arguments that I hear from this generation that has subscribed to this religion of economic thinking, which, by the way, our founders did not support.
00:51:04.720And so, I have these arguments with people where I'm saying, look, 25% of our lands owned by our state investors, I'd like to raise their property taxes.
00:51:15.400I'd like to disincentivize this thing that's been happening in our state and create a new category of tax for investment land for people that are coming in and prospecting.
00:51:50.100And so, but when I say this, it's oftentimes people that were, you know, that were, oftentimes it's people that were really affected by the economic thinking.
00:52:01.700That came out of the Chicago School of Economics.
00:52:04.520And I, when I trace much of this back, I look at what happened in the 1980s.
00:52:08.740I think Ronald Reagan did a lot of great things.
00:52:11.040But there's also this market fundamentalism that really took over.
00:52:16.800And then you look at what's been the repercussions of that, this idea that unrestrained capitalism is what we worship.
00:52:36.580It's like, even the fathers of modern economics, Adam Smith, even David Ricardo, who is a person that basically developed the idea of comparative advantage.
00:53:17.780So the ones that would be a military application are coming from somewhere else.
00:53:22.200So there's this idea that, that, that the market matters overall.
00:53:27.520I'm saying, no, that's, that's not, we don't worship the market.
00:53:31.140Like, the most egregious example of this, I think, is when you look at what happened through free trade in the Rust Belt and throughout the Midwest.
00:53:44.640Where you had people that were told that, you know, their jobs were being shipped overseas, but they'd be replaced by high-tech jobs that then they'd be trained by, which by the way is a lie.
00:53:56.780Matter of fact, the biggest benefits that came from that were for the leaders of large companies that chose to do what Adam Smith said not to do, which was, you know, free trade was about, was about one country doing something really well, another country doing another thing really well.
00:54:43.080Well, large companies got rich and then pharmaceutical companies got rich that preyed off purposeful, purposeless white males who lost their work.
00:55:06.880I mean, the hundreds of thousands of deaths that have come from this, when you take work and purpose away from people and you sell them a lie that then it's going to be replaced by these high tech jobs or high tech training for jobs.
00:55:57.000And so, there, I think many people in our country just feel as if there's this large plan or effort that's being executed that we're not privy to.
00:56:10.740But we have these psyops that happen that, like, that come up and we're fed them through news or something like that to get on board with it.
00:56:24.540I think what we just talked about is probably a large part of that.
00:56:27.520But this idea that we're going to take away meaningful manual labor with your hands, which, by the way, is, like, maybe second to farming, that type of work, is really gratifying because you're creating a product for others.
00:57:24.360You watch those videos, you're like, I'm pretty pro-Pakistan.
00:57:27.240Just the ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is not high, by the way, but it's just, like, these are men making things out of raw materials.
01:01:09.580Writing is how you organize your thoughts.
01:01:12.360It's how you can think something through to separate the wheat from the chaff, to understand how to think critically, to test your ideas, and then get in debate and things like that.
01:03:28.720As a matter of fact, his essay on 9-11 was so radical.
01:03:31.540I think it got taken off the internet, but it was like so good.
01:03:34.820You know, I maybe shouldn't say this on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has an autopilot feature.
01:03:41.240And there's a period of time when I'd be driving with my kids somewhere and I might like, you know, pull out the Wendell Berry poem book and give them.
01:03:50.460And so on the way to school, I was talking to my sister-in-law yesterday about Wendell Berry poems, literally yesterday.
01:03:55.860I would actually have the kids take turns in the car reading a poem.
01:05:48.840And I think, I don't know anyone who would deny that our politicians and our leaders have not been asking that question for a very long time.
01:07:09.140It's a feeling that brings pride, and I would say this.
01:07:11.500It's a feeling that brings pride that also, if you understand your own history of your family and your story, that you can connect it to what's happened generation and generation and generation before.
01:07:21.120I think so much of where we've went wrong is that, you know, I was at a, gosh, I was at a funeral for a woman that I loved dearly.
01:07:31.720Her name was Becky Elder, and she was an agrarian from Kansas and, you know, lived in Kansas for a while, and she was somebody who started schools.
01:07:41.740I mean, like, this could get me emotional, but I was at her funeral about a week ago, and she was, I would call, a daughter of the prairie, like, loved creation, tended it, had their own farms, all these things, and her son was reading something about her, and he said,
01:08:06.380one of the most common sins is forgetting, forgetting where we come from, forgetting our heritage, forgetting that these places really matter, and so, like, when I'm in my community, and I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded with, in large part, you know, it's like many of, many of these places feel forgotten, especially by our politicians,
01:08:35.240who didn't ask these questions of, what will these changes do to our community?
01:08:40.300I have a defensive mechanism that comes up in me to say, like, I'm going to hear it. I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to do it.
01:08:47.060And I don't know what that is. I don't know where that came from, but I would just say that God put something on me to say, look, maybe I win this governor's race, maybe I don't.
01:08:56.320My whole life is going to be focused on these issues, because they're issues of caring for your neighbor.
01:09:03.180And it's the one of the two commands I've been given by Jesus.
01:09:09.900And so, you know, that's why we work with, you know, we could do farming a different way, and I could make more money on that.
01:09:18.660I have a family that I love, that I want to, like, work with, specifically because it's additive to the whole equation.
01:09:26.520You know, when my great-grandparents were living on the farm, I found all these documents, and I hear stories about them from the community.
01:09:39.020You know, what's so interesting is, like, we talk about, we don't know who owns our land.
01:09:42.900You know, before, when I was growing up, and I'd talk about these pieces of land, we've bought some of these pieces because the people have passed on, and oftentimes they'll want to sell to us because they know where my heart is, and they don't want it to go into an auction, and they don't want it going to somebody from out of state or out of the country.
01:10:19.420And so, when I was talking early on about this idea of something lost, I remember hearing some of these stories, and one of the stories I really loved was that,
01:10:28.220you know, my great-grandmother, my great-grandpa, when they were on this farm, you know, these Iowa communities used to be dotted with these small farmsteads all over.
01:10:40.440Many of them have just been bulldozed and farmed over because, you know, people are growing and growing and growing farm.
01:12:18.780It's foundational, not just to the state, but to us as a people.
01:12:23.280I think it's something in, like, our soul that, like, working with our hands, in the dirt, with animals, with family, multiple generations.
01:12:31.800There's a book by a guy named Alan Carlson, I think it was.
01:12:34.540It's called The Natural Family and Where It Belongs.
01:12:37.960And I had another, basically, radicalizing moment for me.
01:12:40.300It was reading this and realizing, this man said so many things that I didn't know how to say.
01:12:44.460Just that, that setup of farmstead and neighboring farmstead that care for each other and that did a lot of life together was the most in-tuned and connected, I think, spiritually, we could probably say we have been as a society or a community.
01:13:05.720What, I don't quite, we met at an event a couple of months ago, a very crowded event and had, like, a three-minute, I'd never heard of you.
01:14:12.220I really like, I've really worked hard to, you know, be on our farm, to farm it, to have my kids understand that, to work in education and these types of things.
01:14:31.040It was more that I thought, you know, there's no term limits on the governor of Iowa.
01:14:36.320The longest serving governor in the history of America is Iowa's former governor, Terry Branson.
01:14:40.740So, in my head and in my heart, as I was talking to my wife about this, it's like, the next person who gets elected governor could be governor until I die.
01:15:18.340Because I think if it was, you'd require people running for office to connect with you at a deeper level, to actually understand what you're going through.
01:15:27.040And to know that they care about those issues.
01:15:31.140Because, you know, I don't care how low our taxes are.
01:15:36.460If, I'll say this, if our kids are leaving and our people are dying from cancer, we are not in what I'd call successful territory.
01:15:47.760And the beauty of economics is, it's supposedly a species of science, which means it can be tested.
01:15:54.640So, if you have an economic system in progress longitudinally over a period of time, then you can assess with the highest degree of accuracy whether it worked or not, right?
01:16:29.040And look at some of these new ideas that are coming out.
01:16:32.400Which, by the way, it's like the fact that these have to be stated is kind of crazy.
01:16:36.760And then the fact that we get pushback on it.
01:16:39.360Like, I'm somebody who firmly believes that the priorities of my government and my economy should be solely focused on making life better for the people that live in my state and my country.
01:16:53.300Not, not for big business, not for foreign countries.
01:17:00.120Like, and I think so many people just thought that was the case.
01:17:04.060And then, like, meaning, like, people that are, we're not really paying attention, but it's like the politicians are all telling me, like, we're going to work on this low tax.
01:17:30.340And it's like, after everything that Elon Musk went through, after all of what these people did, all of what they took in the news, all of, like, the conflicts and relationships that have broke down into this, that one thing that we know is a front organization, in large part, is now getting hundreds of millions of dollars from our government and Republicans are voting yes on it?
01:19:17.160And it's like, if the people that we've put in power, now granted, I will say there's some huge, huge shining stars.
01:19:25.160I think what Robert F. Kennedy is doing, unbelievable.
01:19:28.200The repercussions of this for positive health benefits of Americans will reverberate for generations if it can stay in place.
01:19:38.900Because he's going to help an entire generation of people become far more healthy, live better lives, meet their great-grandkids, potentially.
01:20:23.720But, you know, like, somebody asked me the other day, what do you think the most pressing issue facing America is?
01:20:31.200And, like, taking out the spiritual, because spirituality is intertwined, but taking that out, it said, I think it's that our government is run by unelected people and we don't know who they are.
01:21:17.780And how we got away from that is unbelievable.
01:21:20.280And, like, look, I was talking to my dad about some of these things the other day and, you know, some things you can think and know but not exactly know how to describe or put into words.
01:21:28.920And I get that feeling when I think about the shift that our country clearly went through after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
01:21:38.200It seemed as if something spiritual happened at that point within our country and it has to do with the complete disregard for truth, honesty.
01:21:58.200Maybe it's Russell Brand or somebody that said something along the lines of, like, the future success of our country and the Kennedys is, like, intertwined in some way.
01:22:31.380And the fact that 63 years later, you know, CIA still will not, this is a fact, will not divulge all the information that it has on his murder, despite a bunch of laws from Congress, despite an executive order from the President of the United States a year ago.
01:22:48.820Clearly, there were, you know, probably a lot of people involved, probably a foreign country clearly involved, our own government clearly involved.
01:22:57.520So, like, and they're still lying about it.
01:24:44.920And I think for a long time, we have been criticized, ostracized for noticing what's happening and calling it out to say, like, what's happening?
01:24:56.400And, you know, there's this idea of replacement migration, this replacement theory.
01:25:02.320And, like, I don't ever talk about this, but it's like, people talk about it and they're immediately just hammered down.
01:25:09.320Well, in 2000, the UN put out a document called Replacement Migration.
01:25:50.640Imagine what we could have done for our children and our communities.
01:25:56.440So, when you look at this and you're called this conspiracy, I'm not called that because I don't ever talk about this, but people are called conspiracy theorists for bringing up this idea of Replacement Migration.
01:26:07.120They literally wrote a white paper on it.
01:26:45.920So, anyone who tells you you're a bigot or you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing is, you know, is lying and probably lying in order to hurt you.