The Tucker Carlson Show - August 15, 2024


Rob Schneider: SNL Glory Days, Losing Friends Over Politics, and His Response to Daughter Elle King


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

190.29646

Word Count

25,965

Sentence Count

1,960

Misogynist Sentences

39

Hate Speech Sentences

47


Summary

In this episode, Rob talks about his daughter's attack on him in public, and how he handled it. He also talks about how to deal with resentment and how to heal from it. Rob also discusses the importance of a healthy relationship with family and how important it is to be a good parent to your kids. We're hitting the road all of September, and we can't wait to see you there! Thank you so much for being a part of this journey with us, and thank you to everyone who has been a supporter of us and our mission to help others find success in sobriety and recovery from addictions. We appreciate all the support we ve gotten and we look forward to seeing you all on the road with us in September. We're just a few weeks away from embarking on our nationwide tour and we're so excited about it! We'll be doing live shows coast to coast, the Atlantic to the Pacific and back, doing live audiences with big audiences, uncensorable and uncensored, and bringing along very good friends of ours, our special guests. We hope you all enjoy the ride with us! -Tune in to our next episode on September 6th and 7th, where we'll be in San Francisco, CA. Get your tickets to our LIVE show at the PodX Festival! Tickets are on the way! and we'll see you in San Fran, CA on September 7th and 8th, so don't miss it. Thanks so much love you! Timestamps: 1: 2:00 - How do you feel about this episode? 3:30 - I love you? 4:00: What do you think about this one? 5: What are you struggling with addiction? 6:20 - what do you want to hear from me? 7:15 - what is your thoughts? 8: What is your advice? 9:40 - What would you want me to do about it? 11:00- What are your thoughts on this? 12:30- What does it mean to you think of this episode of the podcast? 13:00 14: How do I feel about my daughter s attack? 15:30 16: Is it hard? 17:10 - what are you going to do to heal? 18:10 What is the worst thing you ve ever done to you in public?


Transcript

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00:00:39.820 So, I hate to start with this, but I read what looked like a family tragedy playing out of the news, your daughter going after you in public.
00:00:52.600 It's fun being a parent, isn't it?
00:00:54.180 It can be hard. What was that?
00:00:57.900 Well, I want to just tell my daughter, Elle, Elle, I love you.
00:01:05.480 And I wish I was the father in my 20s that you needed. And clearly, I wasn't. And I hope you can forgive me for my shortcomings.
00:01:18.520 I love you completely. I love you entirely. And I just want you to be well and happy with you and your beautiful baby, Lucky.
00:01:26.460 And I wish you the best. I feel terrible. And I just want you to know that I don't take anything you say personally.
00:01:36.840 I love you. And I feel that God has gifted this moment and gifted me to be able to just tell you I love you and I accept you.
00:01:46.500 And I apologize for any of my shortcomings that I have. And I wish for you to heal and be well and that you have everything that you want, including the dad that you want from me to be.
00:02:00.420 I'm here. I'm here for you. I love you. Whenever you need me, I'll be there. And anything that you said, I don't take personally.
00:02:07.980 And if I could take away all your pain, I would gladly do it. And if I need to take the hit for you now, I'll do it. And I'll do it again gladly.
00:02:17.080 My heart is your home. And a home is a place when you go there, they have to let you in. And I love you.
00:02:23.140 And I'm sorry that you're having to deal with this. But this is a great opportunity because we can talk about families.
00:02:30.980 Families. I mean, show me a perfect family out there and I'll be shocked. But families, this is, you have to ask, like, is God, I'm a new Catholic.
00:02:44.700 God has presented this to me and I'm going to use it. And I'm going to say that this is, when you have opportunities, like when you're being attacked or you feel,
00:02:53.860 you feel like what the world is caving in on, like a lot of people feel now, whether it's financially, whether it's politically, people are separating.
00:03:04.720 And especially with people that are dealing with addiction and families that are dealing with addiction.
00:03:09.300 It's hard. It's really tough on the family. And it really is crushing.
00:03:14.600 And so if we're able to discuss and talk about that and help heal people and help give them the opportunity to let them know that this is common and that there are routes you can do to heal.
00:03:28.320 And for people suffering and families suffering from addiction, and unfortunately, it is bigger now than any time in my life, we need to have a path for healing.
00:03:41.700 And part of that path is not just getting clean, but I was talking to my good friend, Dr. Drew Pinsky, and he said, we also, addiction, people have to deal with resentment.
00:03:54.340 That's a really important thing. And I'm glad this has all been brought up because resentment has to be addressed and managed to help keep the person sober.
00:04:05.820 Families who are dealing with addiction, that's really important.
00:04:08.460 And this resentment, resentful people use it as a way to justify bad behavior and any kind of behavior and not taking responsibility for their own actions, blaming others,
00:04:22.280 and in the destructive behavior, including even using again.
00:04:28.160 So it's important that we heal that, address that, so that doesn't become this destructive thing.
00:04:34.140 That's part of the healing and part of really staying sober and remaining sober and getting back to a place of happiness.
00:04:41.500 So when your daughter attacks you in public, how hard is it not to, you didn't make any excuses or blame her or attack back?
00:04:49.360 Well, how hard is that?
00:04:51.660 If you love somebody completely, you just, you know, I love her and all I want for her is to be happy and to heal from this.
00:05:02.140 And I really feel if there's anything that I can, you know, I apologize completely for and accept responsibility for not being the parent that I am now with my new kids.
00:05:14.560 She didn't get that.
00:05:15.320 And I missed a lot.
00:05:16.200 And as a parent, you're going to pay for everything you miss.
00:05:19.120 And I thought that just because I was starting my career at the time and I thought, well, I'm able to provide this, this school.
00:05:26.080 How old were you?
00:05:27.620 I was 26.
00:05:29.180 Oh.
00:05:29.920 So.
00:05:30.580 And got divorced young.
00:05:32.700 About a year later.
00:05:33.520 Yeah.
00:05:34.140 And she's got a great mom and did a great job, did the best job she could.
00:05:38.280 But it's hard, you know, not having a fractured home from the start is not a, is not the ideal thing.
00:05:44.440 Um, so it's difficult and, and, um, and I, and I, and I get it.
00:05:50.600 And I really feel, um, I feel like, look, I'm here now and whatever I can do for you, I'll be the father that you need me to be now.
00:06:00.220 And I, I love you and thank God that I'm here now.
00:06:03.180 And, and that, uh, if there's something that you need from me, my heart, my, you know, is open.
00:06:10.640 So, and it's okay though.
00:06:12.100 You know, I feel like it's a good opportunity.
00:06:14.420 It's, it's a beautiful thing when God presents you with something, you know, when God says to you, you know, here, you know, when the enemy, when the, when people are like, when you have attacks in your life, you know, when you, when they say hand it over to God, they don't mean just hand some of it over.
00:06:31.760 I mean, Hey, you got to hand it over.
00:06:33.700 And when you do, you will have peace.
00:06:36.080 You will have peace.
00:06:37.760 And there's nothing the world can do to you when you have God.
00:06:41.180 There's nothing.
00:06:42.060 They can't touch you.
00:06:43.360 My most important relationship is with God.
00:06:45.420 And if that's good, they can't touch me.
00:06:47.580 There's nothing.
00:06:48.160 My, my, you know, wonderful priest, you know, was, uh, talked to me about this and about like, if you got a good relationship with God, then you're set.
00:06:57.520 But when you hand it over, you got to really hand it over.
00:06:59.580 Okay.
00:06:59.840 Can you take it?
00:07:00.800 I'm like, okay, God, I need your help.
00:07:02.860 Cause you'll be, you'll be tested in this world.
00:07:04.900 They go like, yeah.
00:07:05.860 I said, I, cause I feel I'm in a good place.
00:07:07.580 I said, oh yeah.
00:07:08.680 Well, what about they say this?
00:07:10.000 Like, I'm still okay.
00:07:11.420 What if somebody in your family says this?
00:07:12.820 Like what?
00:07:13.280 They said what?
00:07:13.980 How do I know?
00:07:14.820 We all have work.
00:07:15.700 Well, yeah.
00:07:16.640 We have temptations to want to, to, to, to get angry, to strike back.
00:07:21.980 That's a real temptation for people.
00:07:24.340 What's an overwhelming temptation?
00:07:26.180 It is.
00:07:26.840 But, you know, our job, um, what we need to do as a parent is to love and accept and be tolerant and forgive.
00:07:35.100 And this is the way to love.
00:07:37.020 God shows us the way to love.
00:07:38.380 And our job is to reflect God's love, which is everything and tolerant and loving and, and to just have compassion for what people are going through, especially in your family.
00:07:49.140 And to know that it's not about me.
00:07:51.860 It's about the pain that they're suffering and how can we heal it?
00:07:54.980 And we're seeing a lot of that.
00:07:56.620 Unfortunately, not just, you know, in my family, we're seeing, um, we're, we're seeing addiction and problems all over.
00:08:07.380 And it's not just about particularly with drugs.
00:08:09.620 And the difference is when we were kids, if somebody had like a, an addiction to a particular narcotic or something, you know, unless it was heroin and maybe there's cocaine and speed and other stuff and crystal meth around the eighties, you had a chance to, um, you know, to get therapy and do something.
00:08:26.800 We have families now who are dealing with a kind of, a different kind of healing because they've lost their child.
00:08:36.300 We have these porous borders now.
00:08:38.400 And we have this, and talking about, you know, for the, the, the, the Democrats who want to change the voting habits of whatever main, remain power and ever in every state.
00:08:48.280 It's a really an ugly thing because what they're really doing is they're just bringing in death and misery because the, the people who are coming into the border are also being abused.
00:08:56.420 It needs to be a, I'm all for immigration.
00:08:58.760 It has to be legal, but what's coming in now is causing this massive wave of drugs and it's death.
00:09:06.280 And I got, and it's, it's, it's everywhere now.
00:09:08.660 It's every city in America, 65,000 people a year.
00:09:11.960 It's like more than everyone who died in that 19 years of Vietnam or dying a year from this fentanyl.
00:09:17.340 I was at the airport and sometimes you meet somebody who just has so much grace that it's just, it takes your breath away.
00:09:28.060 I mean, much more than I, I have or could have.
00:09:31.880 This woman came up to me, said, hi, I'm, you know, I really appreciate what you've been saying.
00:09:36.280 And I said, oh, thank you.
00:09:37.600 And at the airport waiting for our bags and I was just taking a cup of coffee waiting.
00:09:41.480 And, and, um, this is in Phoenix where I live now.
00:09:45.680 And, um, we started talking a little bit and I was flattered by that.
00:09:49.280 So it's nice when people say something nice about you.
00:09:51.640 And then I said, so how was your, where'd you come back?
00:09:54.540 She said, oh, Hawaii.
00:09:55.840 And I said, oh, it's beautiful.
00:09:57.480 She said, yeah, but it wasn't a happy occasion.
00:10:01.020 And I said, what?
00:10:02.160 I said, oh, it was spreading my, my son, my 17 year old son's ashes.
00:10:06.460 And I was like, what?
00:10:10.900 She said, he wasn't an addict.
00:10:12.360 He wasn't, he just was a dabbler.
00:10:13.960 And he didn't realize what he just thought it was.
00:10:16.100 He just thought it was cocaine and he's gone.
00:10:19.560 There's no rehab.
00:10:20.840 There's no getting better.
00:10:22.200 There's no education.
00:10:23.900 There's no 12 step thing you have is just, people are dead.
00:10:27.940 They're gone.
00:10:28.760 And this family is crushed.
00:10:30.780 And, but this woman has such grace about her.
00:10:33.040 It's like, whew, you know.
00:10:36.640 Thank God has to carry people at the moments like that.
00:10:41.300 That's for sure.
00:10:42.120 So how did, how did you respond when you saw that you were being attacked?
00:10:46.140 Like what was your first, first 24 hours?
00:10:49.240 Well, you feel hurt, obviously.
00:10:52.080 And you, you know, you check within.
00:10:55.060 But then what would you, as soon as you get out of me and get into like, well, what is, you know, how can we do this?
00:11:02.180 First of all, I was like kind of stunned by it.
00:11:04.640 Right.
00:11:04.780 And they're like, what?
00:11:05.760 No warning at all.
00:11:06.840 No.
00:11:07.280 And, and, you know, then you got like, well, I love you and I want you to be, and I can't get into the specifics of like what she's going through now.
00:11:17.980 But obviously, you know, you know, you know, I want it to be, to be happy and well and, and to heal.
00:11:25.380 And, and, and to heal means not just, you know, doing something to make yourself feel better, but to really get to some of the issues that you need to do.
00:11:37.000 And, and, and look, and to just, and, and to just, and, and if you take yourself out of the equation and you say, hand it over to God, you have to, because if you make it about me and what this, like.
00:11:49.060 That's right.
00:11:49.400 You know, I have an adult child now.
00:11:50.900 She's going to have to figure things out.
00:11:52.360 And God bless her and that she's, she's had a tremendous success with her career.
00:11:58.300 And I, I want her to have that, that, that peace.
00:12:01.660 Yes.
00:12:02.160 That peace that I've found and that, that love that I've had.
00:12:05.740 And I'm grateful for this situation because maybe this is what it takes for her to heal and for, for whatever, for other people to know that, about this.
00:12:15.920 And so that they can reach out and they can know that to not take it personal, but go, what can I do?
00:12:20.860 How can I love?
00:12:21.880 How can I heal?
00:12:22.640 What would God do here?
00:12:24.160 How could I work through this?
00:12:25.760 How could I use this as an introduction for her to get closer to God?
00:12:29.540 So maybe there's all this potential there, but there's also the potential to realize that when you are attacked in the media by anything is to know this isn't, you cannot take this in.
00:12:41.820 And if, if you have, I mean, there was a beautiful thing, my wife and I, Patricia, just the best thing that ever happened to me, my, that God gave me was this, we never did the rosary together in bed and we never did the rosary together ever.
00:12:55.940 So we were in bed the other, you know, the other night before I flew out here and let's do it.
00:13:00.700 And we didn't, you know, even remember, no, she didn't remember exactly how to do it.
00:13:04.820 And I'm a new Catholic, so we're literally like going over each bead and doing, you know, Hail Marys and then our fathers and then what's this bead for?
00:13:14.520 And, and I will tell you, it was beautiful.
00:13:17.660 And the peace that I felt after that and the whole next day was, was really the power of prayer.
00:13:24.640 And so as I hope, you know, I'm praying for my daughter and I hope that people will pray for her.
00:13:31.080 So even in the midst of that, you found peace.
00:13:33.180 Yeah, I did.
00:13:34.380 And not right away, but I did find, I mean, the peace is there for you.
00:13:38.820 When you can, when you accept God and have God, you hand it over to him, you got to really do it.
00:13:44.480 And I said, God, I know there's a purpose here.
00:13:46.720 There's got to be something.
00:13:48.100 And as soon as I took it out of me and like my heart, my, my needs, my hurt, my injury and go, this ain't about, this is, this cannot be what this is about.
00:13:57.080 This has to be how to heal something and how to maybe bring this up for other people and other families that are dealing with similar things.
00:14:04.300 And, and, you know, some good's going to come from it.
00:14:06.860 It already has.
00:14:07.860 How did you get to this?
00:14:09.200 I mean, describe how you got here to facing, I mean, I got to say probably a tougher moment than like a diagnosis of illness.
00:14:18.740 Like having a conflict with a child is the hardest thing I would say for a parent and yet you're at peace.
00:14:23.540 So how did you get here?
00:14:26.900 Well, it's, it's a long story.
00:14:28.420 It's a beautiful thing where, you know, where I, I felt close to, to Jesus Christ when I was a young boy and then I strayed.
00:14:40.660 But the thing about Jesus is he'll only let you go so far.
00:14:43.900 And all that stuff was necessary for me to learn and come back.
00:14:48.180 But he was always kind of there in the back of my, in the back there, like he was never left.
00:14:52.420 And I think through getting lost and into the world and getting, thinking about my career and this and that and, and the frustrations of it and thinking too much about what other people think about you.
00:15:15.940 And like where your position is in show business and how much money you make and where you are, are you on the A list?
00:15:21.200 Are you off list?
00:15:22.040 Are you making movies?
00:15:23.180 It's, it's just a, it's a hamster wheel.
00:15:27.340 And I think the, the more important thing is to, and what, I think what our culture is suffering from now is this, in this social media hamster wheel we're on and their politics and our political parties are not helping the mental health of, of Americans.
00:15:44.020 So there's today's understatement.
00:15:46.620 Yeah.
00:15:46.980 So there, if we could step back and, and find a piece, more peaceful way to exist and to not live in fear.
00:15:55.160 And I, I stopped being fearful about, cause once you do get attacked, like the, when the pharmaceutical, you know, industry attacked me for what I thought was just the basic humanity is believing parents who had, you know,
00:16:14.020 injured children who they knew were fine up until the point where they were given some doctor recommended drug that was absolutely supposed to be safe.
00:16:23.000 And then their kid got permanently injured.
00:16:24.980 Um, I believe them.
00:16:28.660 I choose to believe them.
00:16:29.880 And I still believe them because they're the best witnesses to this incident that happened.
00:16:34.420 And we're talking about vaccination and, um, to even question it was you destroying your career.
00:16:43.080 It's like questioning it.
00:16:44.520 I thought we live in the freest country in the world.
00:16:46.340 Well, you're allowed to talk about politics and you can be, you know, you used to be, but, and, and you can talk about things like that.
00:16:55.420 You could talk about, you know, how the United States army spent $25,000 for a toilet, which is, you know, or a hammer.
00:17:01.660 But if you talk about the underpinnings of power, if you talk about the, an industry that is the real drug cartel, we're not talking about the Mexican drug cartel.
00:17:11.000 That's just a measly $10 billion a year.
00:17:14.000 If you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry, $300 billion a year, you're talking about power.
00:17:20.980 You're talking about an industry.
00:17:22.360 You're talking about the real drug cartel that pays for the biggest donors to not just federal legislature, the legislators, but state legislators.
00:17:33.840 They not only, um, they not only control the medical, um, establishment, they also control the medical boards that recommend things and that recommend the, the, what, what, what Americans are mandated to get children are.
00:17:51.460 And then when you open your eyes to it and you realize that something that was astounding to me that Robert Kennedy talks about, and he's one of the few who has the courage to talk about it.
00:18:03.980 And thank you for letting him talk about this on your, on your show.
00:18:07.280 The 54% of American kids now suffer from chronic illnesses for diseases unheard of just a few short decades ago.
00:18:14.540 And 12% of those neurological damage, the fact neurological damage, I'm talking about brain damage, including autism and all this other ADHD and all these things, which were unheard of when we were kids.
00:18:27.680 So the fact that that is not the biggest story every day in the news is the fact that, that, that the, the media is, um, is bought and paid for by pharma.
00:18:37.760 And it is, I mean, it's upwards of 75, 80% of all ads in non-political years for all ads on all of television, on all radio and all internet is drug ads.
00:18:50.280 And there's only two countries that allow that, the United States and New Zealand, because people realize you can't have this because it's going to make us make people dependent and go, I want that drug.
00:18:59.860 And my family works in medicine, the Lapids, Filipinos, so of course they're in nursing and doctors in New Jersey.
00:19:08.320 And, um, I said, why, I talked to my, my, my cousin, Renee Lapid, who's passed away now, but I said, how, why are they, why is the average senior on 12 different drugs?
00:19:16.780 Why is my dad on 12 drugs?
00:19:18.800 And he said, well, there's no database that keeps track of all these drugs.
00:19:22.060 And if they go to get a drug that they see on TV from one doctor and the doctor says, no, they just go to another doctor and they just, they just give it.
00:19:28.980 And so, and there's so much money to be made off it that, um, we're dealing with, uh, a sick population that, and that needs to be, that needs to be rectified.
00:19:39.640 We need to get people healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy in this country.
00:19:43.520 We are not going to have a country.
00:19:45.720 We cannot afford to pay 17.5% of our GDP on health, five times more than they pay in Europe.
00:19:53.560 And we're not getting better results over here.
00:19:56.100 So if we don't get a handle on that, forget about everything else.
00:19:58.980 You forget about your Democrat, Republican, the conservative, you know, your issues.
00:20:03.000 You forget about the, you know, which state is, has abortion rights and which state doesn't.
00:20:08.800 If we don't get a handle on this, everything goes.
00:20:13.460 Yes.
00:20:13.760 Everything.
00:20:14.280 So that, that's something we need to talk about and we need to address.
00:20:18.060 We can't just put a band in on it.
00:20:19.600 All right.
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00:20:41.460 Maybe that would be fine.
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00:20:56.480 Here's everything I've been looking at on the Internet.
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00:24:47.600 So what happened during, so you attempted to talk about it?
00:24:53.760 Yeah.
00:24:54.220 I think you're informed on the subject, and you're sincere.
00:24:56.540 You're not getting paid to talk about it.
00:24:58.120 No, I just, I went to a place because they were, these parents came, you know, asked me,
00:25:02.760 I just, because I was curious about, I'm curious, I'm a medical nerd.
00:25:07.240 I'm obviously a college, junior college dropout, but I was always fascinated by it.
00:25:12.440 And my cousins were kind enough to talk to me about medicine whenever I'd ask questions.
00:25:16.880 And I was kind of a nerd about it.
00:25:18.860 And when it came time for me to have a baby, you know, a dozen years ago,
00:25:28.260 I wanted to know about this particular thing that was recommended, as everyone said it was safe.
00:25:33.980 And I just remember being with this one director whose wife was a TV doctor, one of those TV doctors.
00:25:39.480 And his director, we were going to make a movie together.
00:25:41.400 And they just had a beautiful new baby.
00:25:42.900 And I said, well, what shots did you give the baby?
00:25:44.660 She said, none.
00:25:46.140 And I said, what?
00:25:47.660 She said, yeah, they're too small to absorb those toxins right now.
00:25:49.820 They don't have an immune system.
00:25:51.400 They have an external immune system.
00:25:53.060 Their brother's, their mother's breast milk.
00:25:55.620 Yes.
00:25:56.620 And I said, well, why do you tell, why do you tell other people to get it?
00:26:00.800 We said, well, that's up to them.
00:26:02.580 So I never forgot that.
00:26:04.500 Because it wasn't up to them.
00:26:06.180 Because it wasn't up to them.
00:26:07.420 Because you had to go to school.
00:26:09.520 When we went to school, it was like three shots.
00:26:11.180 Now, it's staggering.
00:26:13.220 It's 72 different doses of 16 different vaccines before the age of six.
00:26:20.560 And we're wondering, why is there?
00:26:21.900 And people go, I can't have anything to do with it.
00:26:23.420 I can't have anything to do with it.
00:26:24.560 Are you nuts?
00:26:25.780 So.
00:26:26.720 By the way, I should say for the record, I think YouTube will censor this.
00:26:29.900 No, no, they will.
00:26:30.540 They'll demonetize it just for having this conversation.
00:26:32.720 I'm sorry.
00:26:32.940 Well, you might have to put this out there with this part cut out.
00:26:36.240 No, no, we'll just bleep it.
00:26:37.860 But it's crazy that of all the things you can say.
00:26:40.520 You can't talk about this.
00:26:41.560 On YouTube.
00:26:42.580 I mean, you could say, you know, our government's illegitimate.
00:26:44.960 Someone should overthrow it.
00:26:46.020 Or, you know, I'm in favor of transgender nuns.
00:26:49.440 Or you can say whatever you want, but you cannot use the V word.
00:26:52.400 No, you can't.
00:26:53.060 And it's interesting, though, because they're so powerful.
00:26:56.740 I remember talking to my friend who's one of the parents' advisory group who was involved
00:27:03.100 in the 1986 negotiating with the Reagan administration for the National Childhood Vaccine Act, which
00:27:10.080 Congress ruled vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.
00:27:14.140 And you can look that up.
00:27:16.280 And so if there was going to be, if you're going to mandate something, there's never been
00:27:20.940 a drug that's 100% safe, 100% of the time for 100% of the people.
00:27:24.220 Of course not.
00:27:25.760 And vaccines are drugs.
00:27:27.280 Either you have a choice for your own body autonomy, your own freedom of choice.
00:27:32.480 When there's risks, take risks.
00:27:34.020 Or if you don't have that freedom to avoid risks, then you don't have, then you have
00:27:40.880 tyranny.
00:27:41.400 Then you're a slave.
00:27:42.420 Then you're a slave.
00:27:42.760 Someone owns your body and can make you hurt yourself.
00:27:44.960 And then somebody could shut down, that same group can shut down the world, and they did.
00:27:49.500 So what happened when you made these points, which I think any rational person, even people
00:27:54.720 who disagree with you, say, those are reasonable points.
00:27:56.440 I mean, maybe I've got, you know, evidence that shows you're wrong.
00:27:59.260 Here it is.
00:27:59.700 But those are not, you're not making crazy points.
00:28:01.660 Well, we'll discuss.
00:28:02.260 We're supposed to be, the idea of what happened during COVID was the idea was like, you're
00:28:07.280 supposed to discuss things in a free society and debate, and then take the, take the best
00:28:13.240 of those ideas.
00:28:14.280 And let's see which ones are evidence-based.
00:28:15.760 Exactly.
00:28:16.240 Use the evidence.
00:28:16.760 What happened was we were taking people like Dr. Boudicaria and Peter McCullough and, you
00:28:22.420 know, say, well, this is evidence here, Dr. Corey, and this is evidence.
00:28:26.400 Well, yeah, but you're not allowed to use that evidence.
00:28:28.540 That evidence, no.
00:28:29.620 And so instead of saying-
00:28:30.760 Drug companies don't want to see that evidence.
00:28:32.400 Instead of adjusting the, instead of adjusting the, the, what should happen because based
00:28:36.640 on evidence, what they did was they just denounced people who brought the evidence and said,
00:28:41.060 well, those people, let's demonize them.
00:28:43.140 Let's denounce them or whatever.
00:28:44.720 And so when I first brought this up, I was like, you know, I did a commercial with Aaron
00:28:49.960 Rogers who coincidentally for State Farm, who coincidentally became vaccine hesitant himself
00:28:54.960 and rightfully so realizing-
00:28:57.580 What a, what a good guy he is.
00:28:58.620 He's a great guy.
00:28:59.400 Yeah.
00:28:59.540 But realizing the human immune system, this is before he knew any of this.
00:29:02.340 So he cleared himself.
00:29:03.320 He had nothing.
00:29:03.960 He never talked to me about this after, but we did a commercial for State Farm and he
00:29:09.460 hasn't done any since, since he's been vaccine hesitant.
00:29:11.960 But the human immune system, which has been proved true, is like, you can't trust the human
00:29:16.260 immune system that's been working for millions of hundreds of thousands of years.
00:29:19.500 Why would you do that when you could take this drug that we just made yesterday at warp
00:29:23.820 speed, you know?
00:29:25.140 So it's just kind of a weird logic.
00:29:26.940 So I, I came out and then, so I got attacked by the goons and Beth, you know, this is 10
00:29:31.340 years ago when like a few people can, can attack, you know, a company like State Farm and say,
00:29:36.440 this is dangerous, blah, blah, blah, you know?
00:29:38.680 And then, then they could think it's a lot of people and then they took, you know, so I got
00:29:43.000 slammed and the media is this anti-vaxxer, which is very interesting.
00:29:46.260 It's an interesting term, anti-vaxxer.
00:29:47.560 You can complain about the, you know, the, the, the Boeing 737 Max airplane, because it
00:29:52.560 is dangerous.
00:29:53.500 We did have an engine fallout, a piece did fallout.
00:29:55.840 You can say, you know what?
00:29:57.140 There's a problem with these, these problems.
00:29:59.080 Nobody says, these are anti-planer.
00:30:01.160 This guy over here, anti-airplane, we're talking about this is an airplane.
00:30:04.400 You don't talk bad about it here, but if you, if you question any of the 72 different
00:30:09.500 doses of 16 vaccines before the age of six, then you're an anti-vaxxer.
00:30:13.780 So anti-vaxxer, that's an interesting term.
00:30:15.280 Also like, I say this in my standup back, they said, you know, if a woman doesn't want
00:30:19.100 to have sex with you, that doesn't make her anti-dick.
00:30:22.160 She's just anti-your dick.
00:30:24.120 She may be open to a lot of other, you know, members, but yours specifically, she doesn't,
00:30:30.420 it doesn't make her anti-all.
00:30:31.760 So you make, by the way, it, it doesn't make her a bad person.
00:30:35.660 And it doesn't make her a bad person.
00:30:37.320 Exactly.
00:30:37.680 So, so we went from, so, but anyway, the, the attack happens and then you, when you
00:30:43.340 survive an attack, that's the most interesting part.
00:30:47.420 Cause you, anybody can get attacked.
00:30:49.100 It's like, do you cow?
00:30:50.580 Do you buckle under?
00:30:52.300 Or do you just go, you know, I'm still here.
00:30:57.580 I've survived.
00:30:58.420 Now what?
00:30:59.400 And now, and I'm one of those guys who, as a little person, and I, you know, they say
00:31:05.820 on the internet, it's like five, three, I'm just five, five, by the way.
00:31:09.060 I don't know why that matters.
00:31:10.020 Only my wife says, only men care about that stuff.
00:31:12.280 You never hear a woman say, I'm five, six and a half.
00:31:15.060 They never say that.
00:31:15.920 But men, your egos, you got to have five, four and a half.
00:31:18.220 Who cares about the half?
00:31:19.440 You know, but I'm one of those guys who like, when you're little, you got to defend yourself.
00:31:24.680 I remember fighting a super nice guy.
00:31:28.020 He's a pilot now, Bob McPeak.
00:31:29.560 And I got, and he was like six, three, great guy.
00:31:31.940 He lives in Florida.
00:31:32.680 Love, lovely guy.
00:31:33.480 He lives in a neighbor.
00:31:34.420 We're friends, but we got into a fight and I got like, okay.
00:31:36.540 As kids.
00:31:37.200 As kids.
00:31:37.740 We're like, you know, like, you know, junior high and you know, we're going to fight.
00:31:41.100 And I'm looking and going like, this guy's going to clean my clock.
00:31:43.660 The only way I'm going to get out of this is if I just get him in the nose, just whack
00:31:47.520 him.
00:31:47.860 And then just, um, so just wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.
00:31:50.880 And it's, you know, a lot of guys fighting.
00:31:53.400 It's like this, you know, they think the bigger the swing, the better.
00:31:56.320 But the guys who know about fighting, especially Filipinos who changed fighting, we can talk
00:32:00.800 about that.
00:32:01.420 It's, it's, it's all in the shoulder.
00:32:03.340 It's just right here.
00:32:04.020 And it's, it's the short one that that's got, and use the hip and you turn.
00:32:07.640 And then, so I just, I waited and I go, pop.
00:32:10.040 And it was like, that was it.
00:32:11.620 Fight over.
00:32:12.320 And it's like, oof, I got out of that one.
00:32:14.900 So, but you have to defend yourself.
00:32:16.740 And so I just feel like when you survive and you get a little, you go, I got to be crafty
00:32:20.980 about this, but I'm not going to bow to this pressure.
00:32:23.360 And I never have, and I've never apologized or rebutted it because I'm right about it.
00:32:28.540 And then, and I'm going to continue to believe these people because the health of American
00:32:32.260 children is more important than my, me making Deuce Bigelow four, you know?
00:32:36.420 So I don't, you know, whatever, but we're going to, we have to continue to fight to get Americans
00:32:40.600 healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy and get them off these drugs.
00:32:44.720 And, and, and to also have, have awareness for all our people about how they can learn
00:32:50.900 to get healthy.
00:32:51.500 Because if you go off the food pyramid, you're going to be fat, obese, you're going to have
00:32:54.980 diabetes.
00:32:55.700 My dad had diabetes, which is what I'm concerned about my children.
00:32:59.500 And, and, you know, and I'm, you know, that was one of the things that my daughter-
00:33:04.800 But Ozempic's going to cure diabetes for all time, right?
00:33:07.000 Well, that is a dangerous drug that we don't even understand the full implications of what
00:33:13.980 that drug is going to do.
00:33:15.120 And I've just heard, you know, uh, I was just talking to Dr. Drew Pinsky about that just
00:33:19.460 the other night.
00:33:20.020 That's a dangerous drug.
00:33:21.580 Get off that drug.
00:33:23.280 There's, there's never such a thing as a, as a, as an easy cheat.
00:33:27.360 You can get off.
00:33:28.680 I would just tell Americans, get off sugar and things that turn into sugar, grains and get
00:33:34.800 off, um, processed oils, seed oils, anything, it's a flower, sunflower oil, all that seed
00:33:41.300 oil you got to get rid of because it's toxic, it's rancid, and it will make you sick and
00:33:45.660 it causes diseases.
00:33:46.780 And if you look specifically since the processed foods, and the only reason they put it in is
00:33:51.000 so it doesn't rot on the shelf.
00:33:53.120 When you have something that doesn't rot and go bad, it doesn't grow mold.
00:33:56.480 If mold says, I don't want any of that.
00:33:58.940 Well, then don't put it in your body.
00:34:00.700 And it's the seed oil, palm oil, all this stuff.
00:34:02.720 It's not real food.
00:34:03.660 It's just to keep it on the shelf so it doesn't rot.
00:34:08.040 So that all that stuff, we got to start learning.
00:34:10.540 And that's, what's interesting is like, you know, the, the, the liberals are attacking what
00:34:15.920 they can attack.
00:34:17.080 Like the, the problem with like with vaccines and the problem with is they think they could
00:34:21.660 do something so that they do it.
00:34:23.720 And it's the same thing with like choosing a particular gas, like, you know, we could be
00:34:28.380 choosing CO2.
00:34:29.580 That's the problem.
00:34:30.300 That's what's causing the warming of the planet.
00:34:32.320 Not the fact that we're, you know, there's a giant fireball that we're circling around,
00:34:36.160 but it's, it's the gas.
00:34:37.400 It's you cooking and gardening.
00:34:39.400 That's what's causing it and cows farting.
00:34:41.320 So it's, it's, so it's a, it's a lunacy, but going to back, just because you think you
00:34:46.720 could do something doesn't mean you should do it.
00:34:49.640 Like, you know, the scarlet fever killed more people than smallpox and tuberculosis, but
00:34:57.420 you don't see a scarlet fever.
00:34:58.940 There's no scarlet fever vaccine and you don't see a rampant around the world and tuberculosis.
00:35:06.640 Nobody takes a tuberculosis vaccine, but you don't see it rampant around.
00:35:11.120 So they're doing these other ones because they can do something like the, the measles.
00:35:14.880 And this is all, you can all look it up and it's in my book.
00:35:19.040 You can do it.
00:35:20.340 Speak your mind, America.
00:35:22.040 That, um, thankless, I mean, obvious plug is that just because you can do something doesn't
00:35:27.780 mean you should.
00:35:28.660 So because they could do something like they put in the measles vaccine in 1961.
00:35:34.080 And by that time, it, you know, all of the deaths from measles had disappeared.
00:35:40.620 They just literally, there was none by 61.
00:35:42.540 And yet they put this in because what really, and you can go to the CDC to look it up.
00:35:46.440 What made the difference with human health, what changed was the fact that people weren't
00:35:51.360 living in squalor, toilets, sanitation.
00:35:54.800 So what happened was all the success of sanitation, which increased people's life expectancies, made
00:36:01.920 people healthy.
00:36:02.800 That is what saved society and cleaned up society.
00:36:06.560 Literally toilets, sanitation, clean drinking water and nutrition, but vaccine mythology,
00:36:12.540 vaccines piggybacked on the success of that.
00:36:14.560 And that's why we're dealing with this now.
00:36:16.020 Yeah, no, it's, it's interesting because the big killers, um, cholera, bubonic plague,
00:36:21.720 um, are really diseases of squalor.
00:36:26.600 Well, people were living in the 19th century and early 20th century.
00:36:30.300 They were literally, they didn't have a clean water source.
00:36:33.460 There literally was like animals defecating and in the same places as their water source.
00:36:38.660 I mean, right.
00:36:39.400 Or people defecating.
00:36:40.380 And people.
00:36:41.060 Yeah.
00:36:41.260 So it was all going.
00:36:42.220 I remember there was, uh, you know, um, uh, Anders, who's, you know, the writer of a co-writer
00:36:47.600 of, um, of Marx.
00:36:49.860 His father was an industrialist and he was in 1857 in Manchester, England.
00:36:53.600 He was walking around and he described the people there as white ghosts.
00:36:57.420 Even the, um, even the common cold he's, he knew would wipe these people out.
00:37:04.780 So that is, is an important, um, you know, getting that sanitation and clean drinking water
00:37:11.560 and cleaning things up is what, what really made it.
00:37:13.380 So you sort of waved away, I beg your pardon.
00:37:16.960 My question, um, because you don't want to talk about yourself, but the, but the effect
00:37:21.260 of saying what you did about health, like what, what, like, did that affect your job
00:37:26.960 prospect?
00:37:27.480 Absolute work.
00:37:28.400 Oh yeah.
00:37:28.860 I mean, I got a call from, um, a friend of mine who's a CEO of a fortune 500 company.
00:37:33.640 I don't have a lot of those by the way, you know, but he called me and I was in Boston
00:37:37.500 and I just got off and it was the big whole state farm affair that happened.
00:37:41.260 And, um, I just got off stage and I was kind of still shaken by the thing.
00:37:44.820 Cause I'd never been like attacked, like by like every newspaper and all this stuff
00:37:48.700 and the internet was new and like, and you know, I was, um, still a working actor at the
00:37:54.200 time, making, making movies and stuff.
00:37:55.720 Um, my friend called me and he said, listen, you're really famous.
00:38:01.980 Now you're just a nuisance right now, but if you hurt them, if you cost them money, you
00:38:09.260 will never work again.
00:38:10.540 And these companies will sue, not just you, they'll sue these other places to make sure
00:38:15.960 that you never work again.
00:38:18.720 And I said, but I said, but I'm right about this.
00:38:21.900 And he says, he said, somebody's got to stand up.
00:38:24.380 He said, you have, and he said this to me, you have a daughter.
00:38:27.940 Is it, uh, fair that she has to do this fight too?
00:38:31.680 And I was like, whoa, that took me out of my knees.
00:38:36.400 That's very heavy.
00:38:38.180 It is.
00:38:39.040 Um, it was.
00:38:39.900 Was this, just to clarify, was this, was this a friend offering you constructive advice
00:38:44.480 or is this someone threatening you or both maybe?
00:38:48.760 It was a really good friend who was giving me advice that he thought, and obviously somebody
00:38:53.440 had talked to him and, or, or he just knew enough to know that this is what's happening
00:38:57.120 because that's the world that he travels in.
00:38:59.200 He's a really good guy and, and a dear friend.
00:39:02.280 And I think, uh, he was trying to just help me from what he knew could happen.
00:39:07.960 You want to continue.
00:39:10.200 I like to continue my habit.
00:39:11.800 I have a, I have an addiction of keeping, wanting to keep my family eating and sleeping
00:39:16.080 indoors in private school.
00:39:18.820 And I nice, you know, I have, you know, a car with the, you know, charger in my house.
00:39:22.920 I'd like to keep that.
00:39:23.960 I like to keep having, you know, going out and eating a couple nights a week and, and
00:39:28.460 maybe traveling once a year with the kids, you know, in the front of the plane.
00:39:32.160 I have my habits that I want to continue.
00:39:34.560 And, um, but at the same time, he said, you have to be, and I would just tell other people,
00:39:39.820 you have to be smart about this and, and, and questioning things and that we have to
00:39:44.640 stand up because to not stand up and speak, it's dangerous to stand up and speak and it's
00:39:48.840 going to cost you money.
00:39:49.800 It's going to cost you money if you stand up and speak your mind, if you stand up.
00:39:54.200 But when you knowingly go along with something that, that you know is false, that's going to
00:39:59.520 cost you more.
00:40:00.680 And that's something in our society, we have to go by evidence.
00:40:03.800 We have to, we have to just confront these lies.
00:40:06.780 We can't continue or we're going to have a nation of lies.
00:40:09.080 And I have people that call me.
00:40:10.620 I have a, you know.
00:40:11.060 Thank you for saying that.
00:40:12.280 I think everything you said is true and important to say.
00:40:15.560 Thank you.
00:40:16.060 Well, among the things you really can't live without are antibiotics.
00:40:20.280 They are life-saving.
00:40:21.380 Get an infection, you need antibiotics, or you could die.
00:40:24.820 But one of the things a lot of us have learned over the last few years is that most of our
00:40:28.640 antibiotics come from outside the country.
00:40:31.720 So that means to stay alive, many of us are depending on a supply chain from China.
00:40:38.040 So if you're in a family or people around you, you care about, just remember that supply
00:40:44.140 chain from China could be the thing keeping them alive.
00:40:48.540 What if something went wrong with the supply chain from China?
00:40:50.920 Well, we don't have to imagine that.
00:40:51.900 We just saw that during COVID, the lunacy of COVID.
00:40:54.900 Foreign supply chains collapsed in some cases, leaving American consumers without products
00:41:01.500 they needed.
00:41:02.320 Products as simple as toilet paper, machine parts, and potentially antibiotics.
00:41:07.280 This is something we're thinking about.
00:41:08.580 You're not crazy.
00:41:09.760 You're not some radical prepper to want to have a steady supply of life-saving medicine
00:41:15.180 in case something went wrong.
00:41:16.420 We spent a lot of time thinking about this because you need to.
00:41:19.920 You need an emergency supply, of course, of water, food, everyone knows that, but also
00:41:26.780 medication.
00:41:27.940 And here's the part you can do right now.
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00:42:24.620 The Greeks invented democracy.
00:42:37.980 So if you like democracy, you're Greek.
00:42:40.600 If you've ever voted for a candidate, voted someone off an island, left work early to go
00:42:45.720 to the polls, or lied about going to the polls so you could leave work early, that's good
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00:42:52.580 That means ordering delicious and fresh chicken souvlaki with tzatziki from Jimmy the Greek.
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00:43:04.420 Hashtag Gimme Jimmy.
00:43:08.940 I have this young actor who's the son of a very famous Academy Award winning actor who
00:43:20.300 called me and said, I wish I could say what you say, because I agree with, I agree with
00:43:25.540 you.
00:43:25.760 I agree with everything you're saying.
00:43:26.860 I wish I could say it.
00:43:28.120 And I said, he said, I want to say it sometimes.
00:43:31.640 And I said, you know, be careful.
00:43:34.400 He said, you have to be judicious about it.
00:43:36.020 He says, he said, I'm worried about losing work.
00:43:38.100 And here's the thing, because the, I forget which one, there was a survey that was done
00:43:43.720 by my great friend that Andrew Doyle talks about it in his book, was surveyed done by
00:43:49.580 the, I forget the group.
00:43:52.480 But they said two thirds of Americans are afraid to speak their mind, two thirds, because
00:43:57.460 they might cause offense.
00:43:58.600 And another third are worried that it might affect their job opportunities.
00:44:02.920 So this is a real thing that we can't continue as a society if everybody's so afraid.
00:44:07.160 That was what Alexander de Tocqueville admired most about America when he came here was, was
00:44:11.460 the Frenchman seeing like people speak their mind here.
00:44:14.640 That is a unique thing.
00:44:16.240 That is, I mean, the idea of freedom of speech is there's not an accident that that was put
00:44:21.060 first before guns.
00:44:22.620 They know that you want to really protect society and your best weapon against tyranny is to be
00:44:26.820 able to speak your mind, to be able to speak freely without reproach and recrimination
00:44:32.360 from your government.
00:44:33.740 That isn't to say there are not consequences for it, but the consequences of not speaking
00:44:37.140 are going to be much, much higher.
00:44:38.720 So this young person was telling me, you know, I want to speak my mind and I want to, I want
00:44:43.380 to talk about it, but I'm afraid about losing work.
00:44:45.780 And I said, you should, I said, just be judicious.
00:44:48.660 Talk about it in your life, but it will affect your work if you do.
00:44:52.060 Some people need to stand up, but I said, did it affect yours?
00:44:55.080 Absolutely.
00:44:55.900 A hundred percent.
00:44:57.360 So your friend was right.
00:44:59.100 My friend was right.
00:45:00.560 He was right.
00:45:01.340 But I, I want to say that you, with that young actor, I said, look, you can talk to the makeup
00:45:06.800 person.
00:45:07.300 You can talk to the driver.
00:45:08.880 Yeah.
00:45:09.200 They'll always agree with you.
00:45:10.460 I've noticed through long experience.
00:45:12.500 People who work for a living, they know this is all bullshit.
00:45:14.740 Yes, they do.
00:45:15.380 Talk to your driver.
00:45:15.940 Talk to your Uber driver.
00:45:17.160 Talk to the makeup person.
00:45:18.500 Talk to the boom man between shots.
00:45:20.160 Exactly.
00:45:20.600 But don't talk to the producer.
00:45:21.920 Don't talk to the director.
00:45:22.760 Don't talk to the studio executive because they're all captured.
00:45:24.760 They're stuck in an ideological, you know, woke mind virus and they're not going to get
00:45:31.100 out of it because it could affect their work because they don't operate like an actor operates.
00:45:34.340 I just want to get hired.
00:45:35.180 I just want to get work.
00:45:36.080 And every actor just wants to get hired.
00:45:37.460 But they operate from a different perspective.
00:45:40.800 The executives at studios in Hollywood, they offer, they know they're going to get fired.
00:45:46.840 They know it.
00:45:47.800 It's just a matter of time.
00:45:49.180 But they operate not what's the best movie.
00:45:51.020 What can I do that is meaningful to me?
00:45:53.740 They don't operate that way.
00:45:54.700 When they make decisions to make projects, they operate like, what will delay my inevitable
00:46:00.480 firing the longest?
00:46:01.860 How do I keep this beach house?
00:46:04.360 How do I keep traveling on weekends?
00:46:06.360 How do I keep dating these beautiful girls who are only dating me because I'm an executive?
00:46:10.300 So that's the, that's the crux.
00:46:12.920 That is so true.
00:46:13.980 I hope people watching this know how true what you just said is.
00:46:17.360 It's so true.
00:46:18.140 And it's not just the entertainment.
00:46:19.340 I'm sure it's everywhere.
00:46:20.180 People are like, they're just worried.
00:46:21.340 I got to ride this out as long as I can.
00:46:23.360 But yeah, it did affect me, but it freed me.
00:46:26.140 And you know what that's like.
00:46:27.020 It does, it liberates you when you no longer feel a slave to the system, when they don't
00:46:31.860 own you, you are free.
00:46:34.200 I mean, you're going to have to figure out how to make a living elsewhere.
00:46:36.360 But like, I said to myself, and that's why I like, I love Chris Rock.
00:46:41.040 Chris Rock was like, sometimes you have a friend who like, and we were, the grownups
00:46:46.500 together, we were together every day and I just watched him in his mind.
00:46:49.040 And he's, he changed standup comedy and he's the one who talked me into doing standup
00:46:53.320 again.
00:46:53.580 Because Adam Sandler, he loves me and he always, and I listened to what he says.
00:46:56.800 But he wasn't doing standup at that time, but Chris Rock was, and he was the best at
00:47:01.520 it.
00:47:01.680 He changed modern standup to what it is now.
00:47:04.200 He was a real influence on the, you know, that we built on.
00:47:07.840 And he talked me into doing it again.
00:47:11.800 And I was like, wow, that changed me.
00:47:13.820 And I said, they can take away the movies.
00:47:16.500 They can take away doing a TV show, but they can't stop me.
00:47:20.180 I said this to myself.
00:47:21.340 They can't stop me from performing with a bunch of other malcontents in a dark and drinking
00:47:25.920 establishment, you know, they want to come see me.
00:47:27.920 They can't take that away.
00:47:29.060 And you know what, Tucker?
00:47:30.240 They did.
00:47:31.140 They did take it away.
00:47:32.400 And COVID, they took it away.
00:47:33.860 I didn't even perform.
00:47:35.160 And then they said, you know, you can perform.
00:47:36.640 And I would go to every state that was still open.
00:47:38.520 I did 14 shows for whatever capacity that they would do during COVID in the one place
00:47:44.020 that was open in Nashville at that time.
00:47:46.400 Because they said 50% capacity.
00:47:48.060 I said, I'll just keep doing shows as long as people come.
00:47:50.180 And I did 14.
00:47:51.120 I have the record for shows there, for half sold out show.
00:47:54.740 I sold out every show with half capacity.
00:47:57.220 And so people didn't want to come anymore.
00:47:58.800 I did 40.
00:47:59.140 I stayed for a week.
00:47:59.740 I could have stayed longer.
00:48:00.460 A week was long enough.
00:48:02.140 I don't mean to sound like Trump.
00:48:03.240 It was the greatest show.
00:48:04.460 I could have stayed for three years.
00:48:05.880 It was the greatest show.
00:48:06.660 It was an amazing show.
00:48:08.220 I had the shows for disaster.
00:48:09.240 But what was really interesting was people, especially for conservatives, they felt like,
00:48:15.780 well, here's a guy who agrees with me and I don't see it on TV.
00:48:19.120 I don't hear that.
00:48:20.140 I don't hear other comedians.
00:48:21.120 It's like, because it's a fearful thing.
00:48:23.200 You know what?
00:48:23.480 You're not going to get on TV.
00:48:24.820 You don't see me on late night TV.
00:48:26.460 You don't see me going on Colbert talking about any of this stuff, you know?
00:48:30.080 And that's okay.
00:48:31.840 But so people has created an audience for me.
00:48:35.520 I didn't have one show that wasn't sold out last year.
00:48:37.720 I mean, Roanoke, I don't know what happened there, but, but anyway, it's a tough town.
00:48:44.060 It's a tough town.
00:48:44.520 I got to tell you, I don't know what's happening that weekend.
00:48:45.960 Maybe there's a festival or something, but, but people want to hear another opposing point
00:48:49.840 of view.
00:48:50.140 They want to hear something they can relate to.
00:48:51.220 It's like, thank you.
00:48:52.320 I did this thing about, you know, you talked about United Airlines hiring, hiring, you know,
00:48:58.480 we don't want these white pilots.
00:49:00.100 Yeah.
00:49:00.480 I don't, white, I don't care what it is.
00:49:02.460 I just, I want somebody who's the highest likelihood.
00:49:04.980 The best pilot.
00:49:05.700 Of us landing this thing.
00:49:07.980 This is a, we're in a, we're in a tin can at 37,000 feet.
00:49:11.600 I want the guy, I, I'm, I'm sorry if this, if your ideological, your ideological problems
00:49:17.220 or your, what your ideological vision is, but mine is landing safely.
00:49:22.840 And so I did a thing about that.
00:49:24.360 And, and, you know, I cannot fly without a pilot coming.
00:49:28.120 I think, thank you.
00:49:29.560 Thank you.
00:49:30.520 You know, so it's, so, but there's an audience for it and they want to hear it.
00:49:36.700 And so it's a pleasure.
00:49:38.700 So you, you felt no bitterness?
00:49:42.600 Yeah, I did.
00:49:43.920 I definitely felt like, man, that was rough.
00:49:48.440 Did you ever, did you take your friend's advice seriously when he gave it to you?
00:49:53.800 Yeah.
00:49:54.460 No, I, I realized that like, if I'm going to continue to, if I'm going to continue to make
00:50:02.140 a living in this business, I'm going to have to be very judicious about it and be careful
00:50:09.220 and take care of my family.
00:50:10.300 Cause also, cause my wife didn't understand.
00:50:12.520 My wife didn't understand.
00:50:13.440 It's like, you know, my wife's from Mexico, which is tougher than the United States.
00:50:16.460 You know, and that the main hardworking people, thank God for Mexicans.
00:50:20.240 You're going to come, you want to people that want to work and they'll work hard and, and
00:50:24.700 you want, and I want, you know, legal immigration.
00:50:27.280 These people are lovely, hardworking people.
00:50:29.780 And, um, she didn't understand.
00:50:32.440 It's like, why would you, why would you want to risk things for this?
00:50:36.120 And, and the most beautiful thing, and I talked to Robert Kennedy about this and my
00:50:40.380 wife, when she said to me, she came to me, I was literally in the bathtub and,
00:50:46.460 when she came to me, she said, I didn't understand why you would do this, why you
00:50:51.180 would risk your career and income and our, and our family by speaking up about this issue.
00:51:00.700 Because I always thought as long as you protect them inside the house, they're protected.
00:51:04.900 And then we got this and then, and let the world take care of itself.
00:51:10.080 But now I realized that you have to also protect the kids outside the home.
00:51:17.200 And she sees the encroachment of this, this woke mind virus.
00:51:20.780 And the fact that, you know, all of a sudden there's a real attack on women in our society
00:51:26.140 that I didn't, nobody saw that coming.
00:51:28.480 And for her to recognize that.
00:51:31.820 And I mean, it was really a, a really beautiful, special thing that I experienced.
00:51:40.340 And, um, and Bobby Kennedy related to that.
00:51:42.760 Do you think that she was proud of you, your wife?
00:51:47.060 Not before that.
00:51:49.100 No, I mean, so she comes to you and says, which I think is pretty common.
00:51:52.800 Um, she says, look, I, I get, you've got these opinions, but you also have a family to feed.
00:51:57.620 What are you doing?
00:51:58.680 Yeah.
00:51:59.000 And you explained to her that there is something bigger at stake.
00:52:02.340 But what is that?
00:52:03.800 How can you think about what, uh, I mean, there's a beautiful expression and we all have to be
00:52:07.740 careful about this too.
00:52:09.160 And it's a Mexican expression.
00:52:10.560 And I, I'm, I, I, I've been doing Duolingo for like, you have a Duolingo for two years.
00:52:16.820 And I still, I'm just, I'm just nervous about learning.
00:52:19.840 I've always had that.
00:52:20.680 And, but, um, and that's my excuse.
00:52:23.580 There's a beautiful expression in Mexico, which is the light of the world is the darkness
00:52:30.120 of the house.
00:52:33.220 So be careful about how about just going out there and trying to heal the world and do
00:52:37.280 all these things.
00:52:37.920 And then your house is dark.
00:52:40.060 You have to take care of the house first.
00:52:42.180 That's right.
00:52:42.560 I strongly agree with that.
00:52:43.800 And you have to make sure everything's okay in there and that you're protecting and taking
00:52:48.280 care of your kids and that they know that they're loved.
00:52:50.080 They know who their father is and that they feel safe and that they feel loved and that
00:52:57.160 they're embraced and they're being raised with a, with a faith in God and that they know
00:53:01.620 their country is a good country and that they know that they have a, that their future is,
00:53:06.780 is secure.
00:53:08.100 And that's something that's tougher and it's encroaching on every aspect of it.
00:53:13.140 And so, you know, while I've been blessed and, uh, that, that, that people, you know,
00:53:18.300 find what I have to say, some of them, um, interesting and hopefully funny, um, I've been
00:53:24.600 able to continue to take care of my family.
00:53:27.300 Um, but, and, and, and to give the kids, you know, all my children, uh, the best education
00:53:33.060 I can get.
00:53:33.640 And I went to public school and I didn't think there's anything wrong with it because
00:53:36.300 I didn't have anything to compare it to, but I will say that like, and you could put
00:53:40.380 your kids, if you're lucky enough to have the opportunity to put your kids, the best
00:53:43.740 schools you can, but the majority of our country is being educated in public school.
00:53:47.940 And we have to, we have to make sure that that education for the majority of these people
00:53:52.840 is, is good and that they're learning something that's useful and they're being taught to be
00:53:57.080 critical thinkers, to be thought, to be useful, you know, for themselves and for society that
00:54:02.840 they can come up and, and make decisions and not just crank out what's happening now at the
00:54:07.440 university level and academia, which is just, they're just not cranking out.
00:54:12.480 They're not making or helping people think critically.
00:54:14.920 No, these young people, they're cranking out.
00:54:17.360 They're not advocates for a particular partisan ideology and that's it.
00:54:22.540 And so this has been going on for a long time.
00:54:25.560 We're late to the party to try to fix this.
00:54:28.360 The ideology, which James Lindsay talks about has been infiltrated into our society.
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00:54:40.460 to happen with the worker.
00:54:41.540 Like, ah, well, why?
00:54:43.380 Because capitalism works.
00:54:44.540 If you work your ass off of the people here, they work their ass off, your life's going
00:54:48.080 to get better.
00:54:48.820 The workers actually hate revolution more than anything.
00:54:51.360 I've noticed.
00:54:52.320 It interrupts their lives on the weekend.
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00:56:26.000 But, so they did it through education.
00:56:42.240 They did it through people who had grievances.
00:56:43.780 They did it through small, angry groups.
00:56:46.400 And they, as you know, they got into the educational system and they infiltrated it.
00:56:51.520 And by the 1970s, let's get to K through 12, and then let's move on through to the university
00:56:57.080 and academia.
00:56:57.660 And by the late 1970s, they have infiltrated it.
00:57:00.400 And so you have this ideology now, and this, whether you want to call it Marxist or this
00:57:07.260 woke terminology, which is just Trojan horse terms like social justice.
00:57:11.680 Who would be against social justice?
00:57:12.880 I'm for social justice.
00:57:13.840 But when you realize that's a Trojan horse term and you go in and it's not social justice,
00:57:17.640 it's racism.
00:57:18.840 It's just the same crap that progressives were doing a hundred years ago, inversed.
00:57:22.440 Exactly.
00:57:23.160 So you have like these, these same progressives who were like 120 years ago, the eugenics
00:57:27.600 talking about, oh, these people are inferior.
00:57:31.140 We shouldn't, you know.
00:57:32.080 We got to kill them.
00:57:32.900 Yeah.
00:57:33.120 We got to kill them.
00:57:33.560 We got to not let them breed.
00:57:34.820 And then you realize like, well, these are inferior people.
00:57:38.840 These people of color are inferior.
00:57:40.300 And these people of, you know, this is 19, you know, this is eugenics, you know, science
00:57:45.240 back 110 years ago.
00:57:47.600 And, and, and this, you know, but we, with the Nazi Germany, you saw what the apex of,
00:57:54.020 of eugenics was, was mass murder.
00:57:57.340 The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of children and sick adults in hospitals.
00:58:02.680 Hundreds of, I think 300, over 300,000.
00:58:05.420 And, and, and.
00:58:06.700 By the way, that's the one crime, you know, we spent a lot of time talking about the crimes
00:58:09.420 of the Nazis, which is fine, but that's the one crime no one mentions anymore.
00:58:14.360 As a matter of fact.
00:58:15.120 Because they're for it.
00:58:15.680 That's why.
00:58:17.000 Well, it's, what you're having now is the same racism, but it's inverse.
00:58:20.840 So you're taking these people who, and they're like, well, it, these people are automatically
00:58:24.980 victims just because of the color of their skin.
00:58:27.920 These are, they're victims now.
00:58:29.340 And they're oppressed by these people.
00:58:31.060 So it's just, it's just a, it's easy to see what it really is as, it's just another way
00:58:36.660 to just attack and use the same Marxist, Maoist thing where these, the people are the
00:58:41.020 goods, these are the bads.
00:58:42.600 We're going to have utopias.
00:58:43.820 It's probably just, these people aren't, they're the ones stopping it.
00:58:46.020 And all you have to do is give up your guns and your rights, and then we're going to have
00:58:48.620 it.
00:58:48.880 And then what's, why don't we have all those people?
00:58:51.520 Well, let's get those people.
00:58:52.740 And so it's, it's, um, you know, James Lindsay really helped educate me and a lot of others
00:58:59.480 in his new discourses about what this really is.
00:59:02.320 And it's important to people to get educated and the people to realize so that they can identify
00:59:06.540 it in their life, in their daily life at work.
00:59:10.020 Don't apologize.
00:59:11.480 If people want, if, if you're saying something, it's true.
00:59:14.260 Don't apologize for it.
00:59:15.520 No apologies.
00:59:16.740 I don't apologize for my jokes, no matter what.
00:59:19.380 These are jokes, people get over it.
00:59:21.180 It's funny, like in a horror film, you have like a slasher and they go like, some slasher
00:59:26.980 movie.
00:59:27.240 Nobody comes out after a horror movie.
00:59:28.380 I did not, I did not approve of those slashings and those murders.
00:59:31.820 I, this is horrible.
00:59:32.920 No, nobody ever comes out, but a standup, a guy talking and they go like, I don't agree
00:59:36.240 with that.
00:59:37.120 That's, you know, homophobic, transphobic, and that's, you know, sex, you know, so it's
00:59:43.140 a, you're held to a different standard.
00:59:44.580 I don't understand why.
00:59:46.280 Wait, so I, I'm not a very good interviewer.
00:59:48.880 Sometimes you said a minute ago that you were a Christian as a young man.
00:59:54.540 Yeah.
00:59:55.020 Then you go into the, how old were you when you went into the entertainment business?
00:59:59.080 Gosh, I was just trying to avoid a normal job, you know, cause I didn't like them.
01:00:04.440 Yeah, I get it.
01:00:05.480 And the most fun thing ever was telling jokes with your friends.
01:00:09.220 And then I saw, um, when I was 11, my dad took me to see George Carlin.
01:00:14.980 My, you know, by the way, remember when we were kids, the parents, they'd watch whatever
01:00:17.240 you want.
01:00:17.580 They didn't say, they took you to the movies.
01:00:19.160 It was too expensive to get a babysitter.
01:00:20.700 So my, my parents took me to see Planet of the Apes when I was five, you know, 2001,
01:00:26.320 a space odyssey.
01:00:27.060 They didn't ask you, was that okay?
01:00:27.900 Was that too much?
01:00:28.500 You know, now we're like, my, my wife's like, it's not PG-13.
01:00:31.120 They're not saying it's PG-13.
01:00:32.220 You're not going to watch any of your movies.
01:00:33.400 My wife still has never let me see any movie.
01:00:35.640 They'd never let my kids see any movie I've ever made except, um, Daddy-Daughter Trip.
01:00:40.840 So, um, so, but, so that was, you know, how, how I, wait, your wife doesn't watch your
01:00:47.420 kids.
01:00:48.180 She won't let my kids see, I know.
01:00:49.600 See your movies.
01:00:50.460 Well, she won't want to see Deuce Bigelow as a man whore or, or like, uh, the hot chick.
01:00:54.280 It's, it does see it when they're 13.
01:00:56.280 So, um.
01:00:57.100 Um, so you go into the entertainment business.
01:00:58.740 I go in.
01:00:59.040 And I, so I got into it.
01:01:00.100 I saw George Carlin.
01:01:00.920 It was the funniest thing I'd ever seen.
01:01:02.060 And then when I was 14, I saw, or 15, I saw Steve Martin perform in front of 2000 people.
01:01:07.180 And back then I was starting to put it together.
01:01:08.640 Like, cause you know, TV and movies, they're not real.
01:01:11.360 It's like, those are people aren't real.
01:01:12.660 You know, it's like that guy, it's not real.
01:01:14.600 He's a movie star.
01:01:15.300 Has a, I don't realize, you know, he doesn't go to the bathroom.
01:01:18.620 That guy, he's, and so when I saw Steve Martin in person, who just, who also changed
01:01:24.300 comedy, he's the first guy to do stadiums, this guy.
01:01:27.340 And, um, it was so funny and I was laughing, but I saw him as a human being in the same
01:01:32.200 room as me.
01:01:33.020 And I said, well, he did it.
01:01:35.320 He figured it out.
01:01:36.500 He was able to figure out how to be a performer.
01:01:38.680 Maybe I could.
01:01:39.700 And that was it.
01:01:41.160 And I said, then I told my dad, who, my dad, Marvin, who was a, who was a lovely man who
01:01:45.300 loved comedy and he had comedy albums.
01:01:47.420 So that I grew up with that.
01:01:48.680 And I said, dad, you know, on Monday nights, they let anybody go up and perform at this
01:01:51.920 one club.
01:01:53.140 And he'd go, what is it?
01:01:54.120 He said, that's the Holy City Zoo in San Francisco.
01:01:56.140 They let anybody go up on Mondays.
01:01:58.340 I said, it's Monday.
01:01:59.320 He said, let's go.
01:02:01.640 So I went, he took me that night and that was it, you know?
01:02:05.480 And you performed?
01:02:06.640 Yeah.
01:02:06.980 It was really awkward.
01:02:07.860 It's like seeing those, you know, drunk people in dark bars that were still smoking heavily
01:02:11.620 at the time.
01:02:12.220 They don't want to see a kid up on stage.
01:02:14.280 It's like, eh, reminding them of what they're ignoring at home.
01:02:16.560 But you did it in front of your dad?
01:02:17.700 Yeah.
01:02:18.620 That takes some brass.
01:02:19.940 He was great.
01:02:20.360 You're great.
01:02:20.840 You're funny.
01:02:21.240 You guys are great.
01:02:21.960 You're terrific.
01:02:22.720 You're funny.
01:02:23.100 Where was he from?
01:02:24.700 He was from San Francisco.
01:02:26.260 His parents were East European Jews from, his grandfather was from Tarnapol.
01:02:31.680 I mean, his father was from Tarnapol who came over.
01:02:34.360 And it's one of those things when they came over, they thought they'd save money somehow
01:02:38.780 if they lie about the age.
01:02:40.400 So, you know, they put the different age there.
01:02:42.600 They'd save money by lying about their age.
01:02:44.480 He's only, no, he's 15.
01:02:47.380 He's eight.
01:02:47.980 He's not nine.
01:02:48.680 He's eight.
01:02:49.240 I don't know why they did.
01:02:50.540 So he found out when he's older.
01:02:51.740 He said, I'm really a year older?
01:02:52.600 What happened?
01:02:53.100 You know, so, and then my grandmother, Molly, Molly Hoffman, she came from Ukraine and they
01:03:00.480 came over and they worked, they worked hard.
01:03:02.380 He had, my grandfather had a, had a barbershop on, right next to the Fox Theater on 7th Street,
01:03:08.520 on Market Street in San Francisco, 7th Street and Market.
01:03:12.080 And he had a little barbershop.
01:03:13.720 He cut hair and, and my, my dad would shine shoes during World War II.
01:03:18.720 And they, you know, he would get a nickel, dime, you know, and,
01:03:22.600 and it was a great place to grow up.
01:03:24.300 They would give him, he told me he, they'd give him like, literally like a quarter and
01:03:30.440 he'd be able to take that, you know, and I think, I'm wrong about it.
01:03:35.960 They gave him, it was like a dollar and he was able to spend the whole day and go to the
01:03:39.760 World Fair on a dollar by himself.
01:03:42.080 And this is 1939 World Fair in San Francisco.
01:03:44.960 So he was eight, just walking around by himself, like not a care in the world.
01:03:49.160 What did he do in later life?
01:03:50.980 He went, he went into real estate and carved out a little, a loan business where for people,
01:03:57.200 remember for people complaining about the price of the interest rates for, for homes and banks
01:04:02.220 now, in 1980, in the early days, it was 18%.
01:04:05.880 Yeah.
01:04:06.780 I mean, it was, you know, thanks, thanks, thanks to the Carter administration, they were able
01:04:10.620 to jack it up.
01:04:12.340 And, uh, so he would, he would get, figure out a way with some investors to help get
01:04:19.840 people to loan them money for a loan on their home or to help be their first home.
01:04:24.440 So like private banking.
01:04:25.460 Yeah.
01:04:25.900 And he was, he, you know, he, he did that.
01:04:28.120 And he was also, um, just a really good guy who realized after the, uh, Brown versus Board
01:04:33.260 of Education, 1954, that, you know, this racism stuff is, you know, it's stupid, it's wrong.
01:04:39.540 And, um, so he was one of the first realtors in San Francisco to rent to African-Americans
01:04:44.760 in places that weren't, that, that, that wasn't, and so that, uh, wasn't easy for him.
01:04:50.440 And so, I mean, it was with that, my mother was a school teacher and I think it did, my
01:04:56.080 mother was a war survivor in World War II.
01:04:58.540 So I think that was a good.
01:05:01.160 Where was she in World War II?
01:05:02.300 In the Philippines.
01:05:03.420 Ooh.
01:05:03.840 Her father was an American soldier.
01:05:05.000 She never met until she accidentally met him in San Francisco, but she, her, both her brothers
01:05:09.300 were killed in, during the World War.
01:05:11.760 By the Japanese.
01:05:12.520 By the Japanese.
01:05:13.660 And, uh, but she had no bitterness about it.
01:05:16.160 And she really was a strong person.
01:05:18.260 And I didn't really, you know, I'm still coming to grips with what that, what my upbringing
01:05:22.800 was with her.
01:05:24.320 Um, and I respect her tremendously.
01:05:26.860 And she just said she was never fearful.
01:05:29.580 The reason I survived, I was never afraid.
01:05:31.680 I knew I was going to survive.
01:05:33.740 And so she literally, her mother would make bedsheets, take bedsheets and sew them.
01:05:40.440 Because, you know, the thing about America, it's, this is unique experiment in freedom,
01:05:47.060 in the history of the world.
01:05:48.420 That's why it's so important that we need to keep freedom of speech and keep, keep our
01:05:51.600 freedom.
01:05:52.080 Because there's no one that's going to come and rescue us if anything happens.
01:05:55.420 And, uh, so she would make with her mother, they would make these, um, um, pajamas out
01:06:00.680 of these soft bedsheets that they'd had.
01:06:02.320 And they would trade them because the, the case system, which is a lot of the world, if
01:06:06.560 you're, you know, my mother used to say, even maids have maids in the Philippines.
01:06:10.140 There's a descending, cascading poverty level that just keeps going down and down.
01:06:15.160 So she would trade these with the people, the farmers who suddenly had the most valuable
01:06:19.480 thing, food.
01:06:20.320 So she would walk for hours, you know, a day to get up to where the, they were and get
01:06:25.860 this comote, which was sweet potato.
01:06:27.960 She would trade for that.
01:06:29.460 And, uh, she'd have to be really, really nice to these, you know, the people.
01:06:33.120 And they knew that, that, that things have changed.
01:06:36.060 And, um, and that's how she survived.
01:06:38.400 And she said, um, not everybody did.
01:06:42.460 Her, her brother's 17, uh, bill was drafted, uh, by Roosevelt under a, an agreement that,
01:06:50.320 um, you could be in the U S army.
01:06:52.420 If you're Filipino, uh, you could be drafted and be U S go in the U S army.
01:06:56.880 So he did at 17.
01:06:57.720 He was in the Batahan death march and he survived it and then died of dysentery in there at 17.
01:07:04.480 Damn.
01:07:05.300 And her brother also died at 15.
01:07:07.560 He said he refused to believe that, uh, that his brother had died.
01:07:11.640 He said, he's gotta be with the gorillas.
01:07:12.900 I'm going to go get them.
01:07:13.600 And my mother said, don't, don't.
01:07:15.400 So she, she stayed up all night with him trying to talk, uh, her brother, John into not going.
01:07:21.000 And, uh, she wasn't successful in the morning.
01:07:22.920 He said, I, here's, she gave him a, he gave her a hundred pesos.
01:07:26.520 Hang on to this.
01:07:28.240 I'm going to come back.
01:07:29.220 And he never did.
01:07:30.240 And then it wasn't until my mother's like 60th high school, high school reunion, where
01:07:36.760 there's only a few people that have survived where she found out why the Japanese captured
01:07:41.840 him and interrogated him and killed him is because he was, and she didn't realize that,
01:07:45.820 but one of her classmates did because he was wearing, her brother was wearing their brother's
01:07:51.260 U.S.
01:07:51.660 army boots.
01:07:52.320 So the Japanese thought, well, he must know something.
01:07:55.520 And they killed him.
01:07:56.360 They killed him.
01:07:56.800 Well, what happened is at that time there, the, the, there was the form of information
01:08:01.020 was rumor and innuendo.
01:08:02.020 So the rumor got back that the Japanese have him.
01:08:04.640 And what the Japanese, um, said was, you know, come and get your son.
01:08:09.620 And my grandmother, Victoria, but my grandmother, Victoria knew from what other happens, other
01:08:14.080 families, if you go, the Japanese will torture you in front of him to make him talk.
01:08:18.700 And then they'll just kill you both.
01:08:19.940 So she had to make her Filipino Sophie's choice.
01:08:22.120 And, and she had, you know, three daughters and she was going to, so she stayed and they
01:08:26.380 killed him.
01:08:27.460 But my mother didn't have a bitterness towards the Japanese.
01:08:31.360 Didn't never, I never heard one hateful thing.
01:08:33.640 My mother ever said it was war.
01:08:35.220 So, and one of her, her brother-in-law was half Japanese who helped one of the reasons
01:08:41.180 they survived.
01:08:42.780 So I'm, that's just another.
01:08:45.660 What was she like as a mother?
01:08:47.440 She was tough.
01:08:48.660 Yeah, I bet.
01:08:49.780 She was tough.
01:08:51.140 She would, you know.
01:08:51.640 Not your average Bay Area mom.
01:08:54.140 Well, there was a lot of Filipinos.
01:08:56.040 That was the beautiful thing about, because on my birth certificate, it says father white,
01:09:02.380 mother oriental.
01:09:03.220 Oriental.
01:09:04.420 Back then, that's just what, in 1963, that's what you were called.
01:09:07.680 If you're Asian, you're not Asian, you're Oriental.
01:09:09.760 I think Asian was like a, you know, a slur.
01:09:11.900 Yeah.
01:09:12.240 I'm not Asian, I'm Oriental.
01:09:13.400 What are you talking about?
01:09:14.440 It just means Eastern.
01:09:15.860 So my dad, yeah, my dad was open to, to this.
01:09:19.320 And it was beautiful.
01:09:20.240 He was very open-minded, a traditional liberal, you know, which is the best, you know, free
01:09:26.320 speech, don't judge people by the color of their skin, women's rights, gay rights.
01:09:29.880 It's that traditional liberalism, which has been abused to me and other stuff now.
01:09:35.120 But it was, so she was tough.
01:09:36.480 If you wasted food, that was a problem.
01:09:38.300 I bet.
01:09:39.660 My dad had to tell her, we've got to throw this food out.
01:09:44.300 He's like, what are you talking about?
01:09:45.000 It's still good.
01:09:46.320 He said, but there's mold on it.
01:09:48.540 Yeah, but we can cut the mold off.
01:09:50.120 He said, no, what we do is we'll just buy, we'll throw that away and just buy new stuff
01:09:54.660 of that.
01:09:55.940 And that was just like, I mean, that was my mother.
01:09:58.780 That was a bizarre concept.
01:10:01.400 Throwing food away that you could still eat.
01:10:03.540 She told me like, she said, they took the kamote and they would mix it and mix it until
01:10:08.500 it was basically water just to stretch it out.
01:10:10.320 So she had something.
01:10:11.120 She starved during the war and she had stomach problems her whole life.
01:10:14.220 She lived almost 93.
01:10:16.080 And she said, and then they would take the skin of the kamote and we'd burn that.
01:10:18.900 My mother would burn it.
01:10:20.380 And that would be our coffee because it looked like coffee.
01:10:22.260 Oh, I was like, wow.
01:10:25.880 But she didn't say with bitterness, it looked like coffee.
01:10:28.820 Let's have some coffee.
01:10:29.840 All right.
01:10:30.880 So it's like, you know, so growing up with that, I didn't truly understand it.
01:10:34.740 And because what happens, I think, and now that I understand with like what I learned
01:10:40.440 from great people like M. Scott Peck and Dr. Gabor Mate was that there's traditional,
01:10:48.000 I mean, I'm sorry, generational trauma.
01:10:49.600 Because I worked with, you know, Gabor Mate worked with me on a couple of sessions and
01:10:54.860 talked to me about generational trauma.
01:11:00.160 I said, what is that?
01:11:01.040 I didn't go through the war.
01:11:02.060 I know it's not my problem.
01:11:03.220 He said, yes, but it's passed on to you.
01:11:06.060 Because he was, you know, in his mother's womb during, in Hungary during World War II.
01:11:11.600 And he said, your mother, you know, she suffered.
01:11:13.600 She must have passed on to you.
01:11:14.560 And, and, um, I said, no, I don't, what do you, I said, I don't think so.
01:11:20.300 He said, well, when you travel places, what, is there anything, what is that like?
01:11:24.000 What do you do?
01:11:24.400 And he talked to me, what do I do?
01:11:25.280 And he said, what do you, do you bring anything with you?
01:11:26.720 And I went, uh, food.
01:11:30.240 You bring food with you?
01:11:31.840 Everywhere I go.
01:11:32.500 I got a bag.
01:11:33.080 I got some food in there.
01:11:34.040 He said, where do you think you got that from?
01:11:35.640 I was like, it's true.
01:11:38.160 If it gets moldy, do you throw it away?
01:11:40.060 Yes.
01:11:41.500 And I go, I'm going to go right back to Sprouts and I buy another.
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01:14:35.780 I think my siblings got it worse than me.
01:14:41.620 Definitely.
01:14:42.420 Because I was the youngest.
01:14:43.280 They bring food with them, too.
01:14:45.560 You know what?
01:14:46.340 But I don't ask him about that.
01:14:49.700 I should.
01:14:51.100 But I just remember being a really young boy.
01:14:55.220 My mother, my dad, he took her places, you know, and it was nice.
01:14:59.160 They would travel together, and they would go out to dinner.
01:15:01.320 And I remember my mom yelling, all right, we're going out.
01:15:04.460 Anybody touch a hair on Robbie, I murder all of you.
01:15:07.640 And I was like, tough for the other kids, but I'm Robbie.
01:15:09.940 So I think he helped create a monster.
01:15:12.960 Was she a Christian?
01:15:13.580 She was Catholic, but then she got divorced.
01:15:18.040 And she met my father, who was Jewish.
01:15:22.360 Yes.
01:15:22.540 And they both didn't, I think they both made a decision about, I mean, she survived the Japanese.
01:15:29.940 She could survive not being accepted by the Catholic Church.
01:15:34.840 And I tried to get my priest, Father Paso, who's a great guy, to speak with her towards the end of her life.
01:15:40.000 And she just declined.
01:15:44.020 And I wanted her to really make peace.
01:15:47.300 And I think in a lot of ways she did.
01:15:50.740 And I, as time goes by, I realized, look what my sister told me, Sister April, who's a lovely, lovely girl, who had it worse than me.
01:16:01.540 She was older.
01:16:02.100 And her parents divorced.
01:16:06.560 My mother's first husband.
01:16:08.960 And she said, you realize we were raised by a 12-year-old girl, right?
01:16:14.800 Because that's when that trauma happened.
01:16:17.260 And that's what, like, Dr. Gabor talked about with me.
01:16:20.880 It's at that time of trauma.
01:16:22.240 It's where they revert back to.
01:16:23.600 And that's, and it just all made sense.
01:16:27.120 I said, I get it.
01:16:27.780 So how did you, if your parents weren't believers, how did you become a Christian?
01:16:32.400 I found it.
01:16:33.780 I've just, it was a, I found some really happy, content people.
01:16:38.780 And I go, what's going on with these people?
01:16:41.600 They were not in the entertainment business, I'm betting.
01:16:43.920 They were not.
01:16:44.740 And I was in junior high and I go, what's with these people?
01:16:47.640 And my friend's brother, Ed Marcus' brother, he just, he was a very conflicted kid and had some problems.
01:16:54.740 And, you know, was experimenting with different things.
01:16:57.900 And, and then he just was suddenly the most peaceful guy to be around.
01:17:02.380 I'm like, what's happening with this guy?
01:17:03.440 He said, I said, what's happening with you?
01:17:05.500 He said, well, come find out.
01:17:07.340 And I went to this place and everybody in there was like, hey, so nice to have you.
01:17:12.960 Welcome.
01:17:13.660 This is our house.
01:17:14.480 This is your house.
01:17:15.180 It was like, wow.
01:17:16.440 And that's a beautiful thing that Mexicans say when you go to their house.
01:17:19.740 They go like, es tu casa también.
01:17:21.720 This is your house as well.
01:17:22.920 Yes.
01:17:23.160 What a beautiful thing to say to people.
01:17:25.320 And I went in and I was just really moved by how welcoming this was.
01:17:30.620 And this was, didn't feel like what I was in, you know, my house.
01:17:34.380 You know, how people like, anytime somebody called my mom and answered, what?
01:17:38.320 Is Robbie there?
01:17:39.220 Why?
01:17:40.020 Well, I go to school with him.
01:17:41.380 So?
01:17:41.980 Well, I just want to talk to him.
01:17:43.300 Why?
01:17:43.960 Well, because he's my friend and I want to check.
01:17:45.520 You know, so I grew up with that.
01:17:47.560 You know, my mom, she, the world was a dangerous place for her.
01:17:50.920 Where are you going?
01:17:51.460 Don't go outside.
01:17:52.260 It's dangerous.
01:17:52.800 Because for her, she grew up, that was a dangerous place.
01:17:55.560 So, you know, you have to have a balance with that.
01:17:59.200 But you wind up in a classmate's church and it seems like a place of refuge.
01:18:05.420 A place of peace.
01:18:07.720 And I was like, what is this?
01:18:10.380 And I was like, whew.
01:18:11.060 And then you, and then, you know, when you spend time reading the Bible, when you spend
01:18:16.320 time with other Christians, you feel the presence of Christ.
01:18:22.080 You just do.
01:18:23.280 When I, you know, when I was doing the rosary with, and I have no problem with any other
01:18:29.680 religions.
01:18:30.100 If you believe in Christ, you're my brother.
01:18:31.740 And if you're not, you're my brother too.
01:18:33.520 You know, those who are not against us are with us.
01:18:35.200 And, and those who are against us are potentially with us too.
01:18:40.160 We just have to be there.
01:18:42.700 You feel the presence of God.
01:18:44.220 And that is a powerful thing.
01:18:45.540 And it's moving.
01:18:46.420 And it's healing.
01:18:47.960 And so while I strayed, you know, there's always in the back of my mind, I go like,
01:18:51.960 you know, I'm never going to go away.
01:18:53.640 There's that, you know, Jesus gone, I'm never going to go away.
01:18:58.400 And when you need me most, I'll be there.
01:19:06.080 And so it's times like this though.
01:19:08.100 It's just like, wow, it's beautiful.
01:19:10.000 And I hope I can, you know, I'm just very grateful and lucky and fortunate.
01:19:16.540 And, you know, I feel so close to him with my family, so gifted by everything.
01:19:21.560 And all the problems that you have are just, you got to interpret it like this is a potential
01:19:26.240 to bring you closer to God and to help people and to bring you closer to, um, to where you
01:19:32.780 need to be.
01:19:33.500 This, this is all opportunities.
01:19:35.040 And so I think as, as people are going to get really angry when the election happens,
01:19:40.180 whoever wins, and I would just tell people like, it's not, Robert Kennedy talks about
01:19:45.440 this too.
01:19:45.700 It's not the end of our Republic.
01:19:47.760 It's not the end of democracy.
01:19:50.000 It's, um, it's going to be more encroachments.
01:19:53.460 If the Democrats win, I believe there'll be more encroachments on freedom, but it's not
01:19:57.000 the end.
01:19:57.340 We still have the, you know, this tried and true legislative executive judicial.
01:20:03.000 And even though the legislative still continues to abdicate their power to the executive,
01:20:08.540 which, you know, it's not supposed to happen where the, you know, Biden comes in, he does
01:20:12.840 125 executive orders.
01:20:15.120 He's really, it's, we're basically hiring an emperor, but still get involved at the state
01:20:19.460 level, get involved with your school board.
01:20:21.140 And I would say one of the biggest dangers of an incoming, of an incoming continuation of
01:20:26.520 the democratic party.
01:20:27.420 And I'm not saying that the Republicans haven't done their abuse and like, you know, the lies
01:20:31.500 that the, the Bush administration, the wars that they caused.
01:20:34.440 But the problem is if the Democrats get back in, I'm worried about the educational system
01:20:39.500 and as, uh, uh, as moms for Liberty that talk about this is giving more money from the,
01:20:46.140 from the feds to our school boards at the state to control what happens at the state level
01:20:52.420 and our local school boards.
01:20:54.120 So the school board meetings will mean nothing because the, it doesn't still all be the feds
01:20:57.780 will, they're funding most of it, 26% they want to go to.
01:21:00.640 I think it's 13 now.
01:21:01.560 If they do that and then control, then, then we're really talking about another, you know,
01:21:07.140 problem with indoctrination of children.
01:21:08.860 And that's going to be a real, I mean, that, that's one thing we should really, really be
01:21:12.060 aware about, be act locally, get involved.
01:21:16.040 What do you, what will you say to people whose candidate loses in November?
01:21:20.260 Calm, no violence, no violence.
01:21:23.000 And, and, and know that it's going to be two years, hold your, hold the reins.
01:21:28.340 If you, no matter who wins, hold the reins.
01:21:30.420 It's going to be two years of what damage they can do.
01:21:32.920 And then they're going to be a lame duck for the next two years and just hold the reins.
01:21:36.740 And I'm saying, don't give into violence.
01:21:39.000 Don't be, and unfortunately our social media is creating and exploiting and making money
01:21:44.380 off of, um, of turning people as extreme as they can so they can increase their addictions.
01:21:50.260 And these addictions that we started with, these are addictions to social media.
01:21:54.100 And that's something we got to control, get a handle on.
01:21:57.980 And I would just tell people like anything new that's coming into the world, like whether
01:22:02.000 it's airplanes.
01:22:02.840 Okay.
01:22:03.060 Well, it's first invented in, in 2000, in 1903 by the Wright brothers.
01:22:06.640 Supposedly the Russians and French say otherwise.
01:22:09.600 However, 15 years later, if this new invention, 15 years later, they were using it to drop bombs
01:22:14.900 out and kill people.
01:22:15.700 And then it took another 20 years for it to become aviation where people can actually get
01:22:20.760 to places by the early 1930s.
01:22:22.340 So it was, so right now with social media is just at the time where it's just dropping
01:22:26.200 bombs, killing people, destroying people and canceling people and that stuff.
01:22:30.880 So we'll, we'll have to give it time.
01:22:32.640 And just for schools, can you imagine if you and I took our television set to school in the
01:22:39.000 morning and our newspaper and our daddy's dirty porn magazines, imagine that I found
01:22:45.900 underneath the stairs, by the way, you know, I noticed that we didn't have the same money
01:22:52.140 for makeup as Playboy.
01:22:53.720 But anyway, my point is, can you imagine bringing all that?
01:22:57.000 That's what you allow when you, when you have phones in schools now.
01:22:59.640 So this is a real problem we have to get a handle on.
01:23:02.980 And like, you know, when you get bullied or whatever, or people would say bad things about
01:23:06.480 you, you farted in the middle of the class and it was humiliating.
01:23:09.260 Well, um, at least when you went home, it was like, well, stops, it turns off.
01:23:13.780 I got an hour.
01:23:14.220 Yeah.
01:23:14.640 Now it never stops.
01:23:15.980 They got the phone and they got people saying stuff about you and this, how many likes you
01:23:19.160 have.
01:23:19.680 So like no phones.
01:23:20.740 I mean, just flip phone, no social media till 16 minimum.
01:23:26.660 So, you know, calm down to say no violence, don't give into it and just know that you can act.
01:23:33.700 And this is a country, it's a Republic.
01:23:35.400 Like we're not, it's not this parliamentary system in Europe, which is, and we're these
01:23:39.860 unelected people, the European commission now are controlling what happens in other countries.
01:23:43.460 And, you know, thankfully Hungary is still holding firm.
01:23:47.320 Um, and it really is under threat right now.
01:23:49.940 We have free speech.
01:23:51.860 Um, there's the free speech in England is under attack.
01:23:55.180 Yeah, I would say.
01:23:56.540 And comedians are under attack now.
01:23:58.380 So that's a, uh, you know, Jay, we talk about in the book, um, you can do it.
01:24:04.220 The, um, the comedians under attack and now they have this, uh, hate laws and free speech
01:24:10.960 has to be open to, to protect the, it's not the, it's not the, the safe stuff or stuff
01:24:18.460 everybody agrees with and needs to be protected.
01:24:20.000 You know, appropriate or approved speech is not the stuff that he's protecting.
01:24:25.600 It's the unapproved stuff.
01:24:26.460 And you have to have all of it to have friction in society to have the best ideas arise, you
01:24:31.040 know, and let, let them be like ACLU when it used to be a decent organization that used
01:24:35.640 to protect rights.
01:24:36.300 You know, they've defended, um, the Nazis right in Skokie, Illinois to march, not because
01:24:42.020 they agreed with the Nazis, but because the Jewish guy who was in charge of ACLU at the
01:24:46.960 time said the best way to defeat the Nazis is to let them speak.
01:24:50.060 Of course.
01:24:50.860 So they went to the, they went to the Supreme Court and allowed, and then to fight for them
01:24:54.040 to, for their right to speak.
01:24:55.660 Well, that's how a self-confident country behaves.
01:24:58.640 A country that believes in its own values in its founding documents.
01:25:02.940 They're, they're happy to tolerate disagreement because they, they know that they're right
01:25:07.320 and that if people are given the, the freedom to choose, they'll choose them, you know?
01:25:14.120 And I, I feel like censorship suggests the people in charge know how hated they are and
01:25:19.620 how stupid their ideas are.
01:25:21.320 And that's why they can't handle the challenge to them.
01:25:23.500 Well, if you, if you abdicate your free speech, your, your right to unfettered speech and
01:25:30.100 you let some other, the state decide, well, then they're going to decide what's in their
01:25:33.300 best interest.
01:25:34.040 Of course.
01:25:34.560 And they're going to limit the speech and, and they are trying to, and it's, it was
01:25:39.180 really a, it shouldn't be surprising, but it was, it was like, it was surprising to me
01:25:44.660 that when it was discovered through the, thank God for Elon Musk and, and God bless him and
01:25:51.440 protect him and pray for Elon Musk, um, his protection.
01:25:54.980 And thank God for the Twitter files because the terrific work of, uh, Matt is Matthew
01:26:00.520 Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi, they, this was really happening that he, they were able
01:26:06.580 to discover that the government was infringing on the, for, on the rights of Americans and
01:26:11.660 limiting and censoring speech that they disagreed with for what the government wanted to do.
01:26:16.060 So for, and then when they had congressional hearings, instead of correcting the situation,
01:26:21.960 which was egregious and a, a, a violation of, of the first amendment rights of Americans,
01:26:27.620 instead of adjusting it based on this new evidence, this anti-American attack on our
01:26:34.400 system and free speech, the Democrats were just like attacking the messengers and attacking
01:26:40.800 the people who brought this and trying to undermine them and demonize them.
01:26:44.840 And it's like, wow, this is a time to regroup and go, Hey, this is bad.
01:26:50.080 Let's fix this.
01:26:50.740 Yes.
01:26:51.600 But they didn't do that.
01:26:52.820 And that's what George Washington warns us about.
01:26:54.740 When partisanship, when people worry more about parties, then they can really be a threat
01:27:00.080 to the nation.
01:27:00.820 That's for sure.
01:27:01.920 So, um, you started on Saturday Night Live in 89, I think 89.
01:27:09.780 89, 90 season.
01:27:11.480 With.
01:27:12.000 The glory years.
01:27:13.360 Well, actually, I think that's, that's fair.
01:27:14.880 I mean, the cast that you started with, you know, they're all still famous to this day.
01:27:17.920 We had a, we had a great cast, but I, all I remember from that time is that, I mean,
01:27:20.880 you know, the newspapers saying how much we sucked that we weren't as good as the first
01:27:23.760 cast.
01:27:23.860 Who was on?
01:27:24.300 Can you just remind us who was on the show that year?
01:27:26.960 Oh, well, um, you know, the, the great Dana Carvey, Dennis Miller, um, Mike Myers, really
01:27:34.380 talented guy and, um, Phil Hartman, of course, um, and the new guys coming in, which, you
01:27:40.440 know, was, um, um, Nora Dunn was there and, uh, Jan Hooks, Kevin, the great Kevin Nealon,
01:27:47.720 great guy and, uh, talent.
01:27:49.800 Um, and then with the new guys was me, David Spade, who got hired together as writers.
01:27:54.760 And then the next fall, 1990, Adam Sandler ended up coming.
01:27:59.900 And, uh, my buddy who I lived right across the street with, uh, with, uh, he lived with
01:28:04.460 Judd Apatow right across the street from me in North Hollywood.
01:28:06.520 And then, um, Chris Farley came in at that time and it was a, uh, a really good time for
01:28:14.240 a comedy and it was a great place to be in their twenties.
01:28:17.320 And that's.
01:28:17.660 So that's 35 years, at least that you've lived in that world.
01:28:22.580 What, uh, what's the response from your colleagues, peers, friends to some of the things that you've
01:28:29.280 been saying over the last hour?
01:28:31.620 Um, they're coming around, you know, they don't agree with all of it, but I would say that,
01:28:37.960 um, they're agreeing more to what they're seeing because it's, it's tough because it is insulated.
01:28:46.880 You, you do, you can, you can stay in your political echo chamber.
01:28:50.440 You can absolutely avoid any, um, you know, any questioning of your belief systems because
01:28:57.900 belief systems that we're talking about is the toughest thing to really, to, um, to have
01:29:02.180 challenged for sure.
01:29:03.920 Once you, once you, you can talk about like, am I a good cook?
01:29:06.780 I don't know if I'm a good cook or whatever.
01:29:08.020 You can talk about, but, but if you talk about your belief systems, you talk about like, um,
01:29:11.240 you talk about somebody's sense of humor.
01:29:12.980 Do you have a good sense of humor?
01:29:13.920 Yes, absolutely.
01:29:14.920 Why wouldn't I?
01:29:15.520 But not everybody, like you can't be a good cook.
01:29:17.180 Not everybody has a best sense of humor.
01:29:18.700 When you get to that belief system and start to question, people get angry.
01:29:22.240 And, um, but I think people are waking up and you got to have people with differences
01:29:27.480 of opinion.
01:29:28.460 The difference is, as you know, now it's like, as we've seen before, if you disagreed, you
01:29:33.880 disagreed and you work, whatever, you know, now, if you have a different, if you have a
01:29:38.700 different opinion, you're a bad person.
01:29:40.500 Yes.
01:29:41.280 And you're judged for that.
01:29:42.840 So now people don't want to give their opinion, which is, makes our, which makes the expression
01:29:49.060 and it makes our culture poorer because we need everybody to talk and let the best ideas
01:29:53.480 rise to the surface.
01:29:54.140 Exactly.
01:29:54.640 And not judge them from a particular thing and, and for a particular point of view that,
01:30:00.220 that they have every right to have.
01:30:01.740 So, but do you think that people in the world that you've spent your life in would agree
01:30:07.280 with what you just said?
01:30:08.380 I mean.
01:30:09.320 I think so.
01:30:09.940 If you get them one-on-one, not on Twitter, not on Twitter, not on Facebook.
01:30:13.800 Has it, um, but have you been able to preserve your friendships despite political differences?
01:30:20.300 Most.
01:30:20.700 Some people, sadly, from the Bay Area who, uh, watch, um, one of the networks that has
01:30:30.260 four letters or was it MSNBC five, they, um, I used to work there and I didn't know that.
01:30:41.100 They love me, uh, but I don't hear from them as much and they're lovely people and I love
01:30:46.780 them.
01:30:47.000 And I, I feel like if they did see me, they'd hug me, but they just, you know, they said
01:30:52.580 to me, there's a lot of people who like Gavin Newsom.
01:30:55.940 Actually?
01:30:57.120 Well, that's what they're from Northern California.
01:30:59.760 There's a lot of people.
01:31:00.420 They really like him.
01:31:01.760 And you know what?
01:31:03.900 Um, he's, he's in power and there, there was a chance that we were like, you know, worried
01:31:09.700 because we saw what he did to San Francisco.
01:31:11.360 It's interesting.
01:31:11.900 Cause like you take guys that are really authoritarian, they have no problem closing your business.
01:31:16.780 Oh no.
01:31:17.440 But if it's, if it's a business that they're associated with or they get him with, they'll
01:31:20.280 keep open.
01:31:20.840 And Justin Trudeau, the dictator of the North.
01:31:23.400 Yeah.
01:31:23.920 He will, um, have no problem trouncing on the rights of, uh, Canadians who are protesting,
01:31:29.200 who, um, really what helped open and end COVID was those truckers who risked everything there.
01:31:34.320 And this a-hole dick, cold, uh, cold weather dictator closed their bank accounts and just
01:31:42.100 completely took away their rights.
01:31:44.580 And, and that's, that's the thing about it, man, your rights, they are on a piece of paper.
01:31:50.380 And unless they're backed by the will and by the, the goodwill and by the people insist
01:31:56.200 on it, it's just going to be a piece of paper.
01:31:57.940 And so that's what happened in Canada.
01:31:59.900 And, um, those people's rights were, were trounced upon.
01:32:03.580 So luckily though, but that, that was enough to like wake people up, I think in the United
01:32:07.440 States who had guns.
01:32:09.120 Yeah.
01:32:09.620 And I, and I, Robert Kennedy, I talked about this.
01:32:11.400 Is it the reason why we got out of COVID?
01:32:12.660 Cause when I said that, I, you know, I told him years ago, you know, if you ever run for
01:32:16.200 president, I'm going to support you no matter what.
01:32:18.140 And I do.
01:32:19.600 He's a great thinker and a wonderful man and really wants to help educate people and get
01:32:24.880 people healthy.
01:32:25.580 I don't agree with everything he says, but who does?
01:32:27.880 The point is we agree on enough.
01:32:29.540 We can't just go with Republicans, Democrats.
01:32:31.480 If you're willing to work with us on this issue, I'll work with you.
01:32:33.840 I don't care about what, you know, you're crazy or something else.
01:32:36.800 And so I'm willing to, to, to work with him and, and to, you know, to move this forward.
01:32:43.620 I said, but the guns, here's the thing.
01:32:45.680 The only reason we got out of COVID was because there are at least 400 million guns in America
01:32:51.260 and the government can only push its citizenry so far.
01:32:53.780 And I said, that is something that I, as someone who grew up in California, didn't understand
01:32:57.460 that I understood it pretty quickly during tyranny where the people could shut you down or
01:33:02.220 like a governor could say, you can no longer open your business.
01:33:05.740 Even though, you know, scientifically you can't, there, there was no science behind it and
01:33:11.920 it never had been.
01:33:12.820 And so they were allowed to do that.
01:33:15.300 And the fact that there has been no legislatures that have restricted the government's executive
01:33:22.200 powers to prevent that from happening again is worrisome.
01:33:24.560 And I said, this, this, you know, they could turn it off at any minute.
01:33:28.980 So I do think that because of that situation, because of COVID, because people saw the COVID
01:33:33.440 tyranny and, and now it's been exposed that there was no reason for the six, you know,
01:33:37.840 the six feet of distance is all was just made up by Fauci and, you know, his cronies over
01:33:42.400 there who were all paid by the pharmaceutical industry.
01:33:44.980 They have, you know, my friends have come around to go, you know, maybe Rob's not so crazy.
01:33:50.800 I've had friends who go like, you know what?
01:33:51.840 I didn't realize, you know, we just thought you were, we just thought you were nuts, but
01:33:54.900 now they've come around.
01:33:57.140 When did your views start changing and why?
01:34:00.420 I've always questioned things.
01:34:01.880 I mean, I hate to say this, but like, I've always been kind of a contrarian.
01:34:06.560 Go, why do we have to do that?
01:34:08.220 That sucks.
01:34:09.220 Let's do something else.
01:34:10.140 I grew up with, my dad, my dad, you know, set an example for just a troublemaker, you
01:34:17.240 know?
01:34:17.440 So I kind of, you know, this way, I didn't start out.
01:34:20.080 I mean, comedians aren't intellectuals.
01:34:21.320 We're de facto intellectuals.
01:34:22.660 We got forced into it because everybody else got demonized and silenced.
01:34:26.160 Academics were like, they couldn't talk about stuff, scientists and doctors and comedians
01:34:29.460 can still get on stage and still talk about it.
01:34:32.400 But so these other people got science.
01:34:34.780 So we kind of had to step into that vacuum.
01:34:36.720 It's true.
01:34:37.140 And they got, I just do what I can.
01:34:38.820 And, you know, I'm just college dropout.
01:34:41.920 So no, but that's, I mean, it's, you know, Dave Chappelle becomes a leading public intellectual
01:34:47.240 people.
01:34:48.300 Exactly.
01:34:48.780 I saw him in 2016.
01:34:49.940 Cause I go, what is happening here?
01:34:51.620 What is this like?
01:34:52.400 And I went, I'm going to go see a show.
01:34:53.560 And there was two shows happening.
01:34:55.020 There was the show of his show, which is brilliant.
01:34:59.100 And there was a show of the audience looking at him where that was another show because they
01:35:03.320 were looking at him.
01:35:03.960 Please make sense of the world for me, please.
01:35:06.500 Cause it's not making sense anymore.
01:35:08.120 And he would.
01:35:09.580 And it's like, and that changed me.
01:35:11.140 And I realized, well, that's what, you know, that's the way direction to go.
01:35:14.120 And that was 2016.
01:35:15.680 So what my dad was a guy who would like, he was friends with this IRS guy who used to
01:35:21.800 be high up in the IRS.
01:35:23.040 I can't say his name.
01:35:24.340 My publisher.
01:35:25.100 Good friend to have.
01:35:25.980 Yeah.
01:35:26.040 He said, he said, he said, cause my dad was pissed off.
01:35:29.280 He had to pay these taxes, which were much higher in the late sixties than they are now.
01:35:32.880 Yeah.
01:35:33.420 Very high.
01:35:33.940 You know, just, it was crazy higher than now.
01:35:35.600 People think about, I got to pay tax.
01:35:36.840 They were higher.
01:35:37.380 They're like sixties in the 60 percentile.
01:35:39.500 So my, and he said, God, I'm pissed.
01:35:40.840 He said, he said, so what happens?
01:35:42.220 He said, I get audited every year.
01:35:43.380 Cause he had a private, you know, business.
01:35:45.600 I'm basically a private little bank.
01:35:47.540 And he said, um, what do you do when the IRS agent comes over?
01:35:51.900 He said, well, you know what?
01:35:52.640 I give him his own room and I, you know, they give him a box and a cup of coffee, whatever
01:35:55.400 they need.
01:35:55.920 He said, don't do that.
01:35:57.200 So what do you mean?
01:35:58.180 He said, um, just give him a box, put the stuff on the floor, you know, put the stuff
01:36:04.560 on another box and, you know, and said, bring the kids over, let them play and run around
01:36:08.840 the room.
01:36:09.760 And he said, he'll be gone in an hour.
01:36:13.520 Don't make it easy for him to harass you.
01:36:15.360 He said, just, yeah, just, just go to have the kids run around.
01:36:17.380 Don't make it comfortable, too comfortable, you know?
01:36:19.980 And so we would run around and I couldn't believe like my, cause my dad would never let
01:36:22.540 me run around when there's people in the office.
01:36:24.100 And I got this people, he said, he said, just play, do what you want.
01:36:28.120 My brother's like, what?
01:36:30.120 Really?
01:36:30.920 So it was a disaster.
01:36:32.380 We're running around dropping and breaking stuff and all this stuff.
01:36:34.980 And it was, my dad was like, I said, this is different.
01:36:37.060 I didn't understand what it was till now, it's a little years later, but that was my dad's
01:36:40.780 kind of way.
01:36:41.220 Like, ah, you know, ah, giving it back to the man and some.
01:36:45.480 It was a small, fun way where he can get a laugh out of it.
01:36:49.000 My dad used to love to laugh and get laughs out of situations and whatever way he could.
01:36:54.680 And I guess some of that rubbed off.
01:36:58.760 Did they stop auditing him?
01:37:02.360 Not as much.
01:37:03.800 And they were definitely quicker, but he was a genius with math.
01:37:07.740 My dad was a math genius.
01:37:09.480 He, for a calculator, he just figured it out.
01:37:12.140 Just like, I couldn't believe what he would do.
01:37:15.740 Did he live to see your career?
01:37:18.260 He lived to, thankfully, he got to see, like, a movie might become a big hit.
01:37:24.140 And it was like, he called me and left a message on my machine.
01:37:28.080 And he said, well, Robbie, I think you finally got a hit on your hands here.
01:37:32.480 I went to the theater, San Bruno.
01:37:35.600 Two theaters had your movie.
01:37:36.880 Two.
01:37:37.360 And they're both sold out.
01:37:38.460 So I think you got a hit, you know?
01:37:40.240 And my mom started getting into show business.
01:37:42.440 She said, you know, the Batman movie made 400 million, but they had, but their per screen
01:37:46.320 average was higher because there was in 4,500 screens.
01:37:49.360 So the per screen average, when you look at it, there's not as much as your movie when
01:37:52.040 you're, so they got into it quick and they're very proud of me.
01:37:56.800 So that was, I was really, my dad got to see that and he got to go and be there and he
01:38:00.500 died a month later.
01:38:01.800 But that was just beautiful.
01:38:04.280 He got to see that and go to a premiere and my dad dressed up.
01:38:06.780 I got to sit next to him and my daughter, Elle, on this side.
01:38:09.520 And it was just, that was beautiful.
01:38:13.020 And I, I, I miss those times and I miss the phone calls and, and, you know, calling and
01:38:19.160 him checking in on me and go, Hey dad, let me call you back.
01:38:21.360 He says, you always say that.
01:38:23.400 Why can't you talk now?
01:38:24.400 And I wish I could have that conversation back.
01:38:26.700 Yeah.
01:38:27.260 You know, but those are beautiful times and to have that support of your father.
01:38:32.060 That's why it's so important to support and love your kids unconditionally and give
01:38:36.340 them the reflect God's love onto them.
01:38:39.100 And that's, that's our job as a parent and in society.
01:38:41.900 And I fail, I fail at, um, and being the best person I could be.
01:38:45.580 And I get angry and, um, sometimes I spout my mouth off and, but when some people, you
01:38:50.680 know, attack people that I care about, it really bothers me and I got to calm down, you
01:38:58.120 know?
01:38:58.360 So, but so they always tell you it's the most important election of your lifetime, but
01:39:02.760 of course this one actually is that's demonstrable.
01:39:05.740 And it's also because it is so important being censored at every level by the tech companies.
01:39:10.100 So we were thinking about this a couple of months ago and we thought, why not get on
01:39:13.260 the road live in front of actual people, live audiences, coast to coast, a nationwide
01:39:18.760 tour where we can't be censored.
01:39:21.120 That'd be good.
01:39:21.940 It would also be fun.
01:39:22.900 So we're doing it.
01:39:23.620 We're going to be on stage with some of our friends, some of the most fascinating people
01:39:26.980 we know, the most recognizable people we know, responding to what is happening in
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01:40:19.800 So you got cut off.
01:40:21.640 You were talking about Canada and the tyranny there.
01:40:23.740 Obviously, lots of great Canadian people.
01:40:26.600 I know you would agree, but the country's in turmoil.
01:40:31.620 It's an authoritarian country, but you were punished by the Canadians for telling naughty jokes.
01:40:37.600 I was.
01:40:38.140 They really went after me, and it hurt not at all.
01:40:42.040 I loved it.
01:40:43.140 I remember my favorite thing was because it was accused of being transphobe,
01:40:48.500 which is like just fill in the blank, whatever you are.
01:40:50.800 So you could tell jokes.
01:40:51.880 I mean, the fact of the matter is, like, if we're just going to throw biological reality out,
01:40:59.020 the truth, it could be, you know, not nice, but it's never hateful.
01:41:03.640 No.
01:41:04.220 The fact that, like, you know, and I said, I did some jokes about that I do my stand-up back.
01:41:09.800 If I had a son, and if he sucked at sports like I did, and I wanted him to be a champion and victory,
01:41:14.720 I said, well, just go, you know, I said, listen, it's not nice, but just go tell him.
01:41:18.660 I want you to feel, you know, you're losing to all the guys.
01:41:20.720 I want you to go and tell the coach that you're a girl, you know, and then, you know, no, no, no,
01:41:27.620 that's the best part.
01:41:28.180 You get to keep your dick.
01:41:28.900 You can keep the whole thing.
01:41:29.680 Keep the whole thing.
01:41:30.280 It doesn't matter.
01:41:30.800 No, you just tell them.
01:41:31.460 And then they have to accept you.
01:41:32.320 You just say it.
01:41:32.760 You just say it.
01:41:33.680 And I said, and you win at you, then you, you know, I do this thing.
01:41:35.860 And anyway, it gets big laughs, but it's also like, that's what thing they complained about.
01:41:40.400 And people were laughing at that outrageous, you know, humor.
01:41:43.840 And I said.
01:41:44.020 The Canadians were mad that the audience laughed?
01:41:45.940 So one guy who was the same guy and all the complaining, and I remember like they were
01:41:50.120 really laughing and then they kind of got quiet because they're, they're too polite.
01:41:54.200 Canadians are too polite.
01:41:55.300 They don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, which ends up hurting everybody's feelings
01:41:58.340 because then you had, you end up having some, some, a guy who loves China running your country.
01:42:02.860 Exactly.
01:42:03.420 So it's, it's important to speak up and speak your, speak freely.
01:42:07.700 And say when this, when you're countrymen, I said, there's, I have nothing to apologize
01:42:12.660 to you, Canada, about if you know what you, I will consider an apology, consider it when
01:42:18.220 you apologize for what you did to those truckers and what you, that, that, that ugliness of
01:42:23.680 not supporting those people who were risking everything to drive all the way across the
01:42:27.620 country, shut the country down so that, that this tyranny could end.
01:42:31.620 And it, it was a powerful movement and it was a movement not, and, and to not, to, to stand
01:42:37.520 there and let your government officials call them terrorists.
01:42:40.620 Yes.
01:42:41.340 That is.
01:42:42.060 And put them in prison, which they did.
01:42:44.080 Disgraceful.
01:42:44.520 It is.
01:42:45.640 Disgraceful.
01:42:46.180 And so when you make that official apology, I'll talk about like how I felt them, why I
01:42:51.480 did certain jokes and I have no apologies to you at all.
01:42:54.180 And, uh, I'm glad I did it.
01:42:55.740 And I would do it again if you let me back in the country.
01:42:58.020 Which I assume they won't.
01:42:59.260 I will not be allowed back in the country.
01:43:00.620 I've been just for, for hate speech, for jokes.
01:43:04.780 And you're not allowed on late night TV either.
01:43:07.020 I don't get invited to a place.
01:43:10.500 Do you care?
01:43:11.160 No.
01:43:11.740 Why would I?
01:43:12.320 I mean, like, it's, it's not, I mean, as I said, you know, it got on Twitter and then
01:43:16.060 Fox news, of course, uh, which I said, you know, much late night TV is just, uh, political
01:43:21.960 indoctrination with comedic imposition.
01:43:24.660 Yeah.
01:43:25.020 And it's, it was, it no longer resembles comedy as much as, uh, you know, cheering,
01:43:30.620 cheering on the rhetoric and, you know, attacking a particular, uh, it's one half of the country.
01:43:37.160 And, um, you know, when I saw the, the dancing syringes, I was like, oof.
01:43:43.060 But you know, all those, that's the weird thing is, you know, all those guys, I assume,
01:43:46.460 because you've lived in that world.
01:43:47.760 I, I know most of them.
01:43:49.540 Um, but it's, I mean, it's easy to, I mean, and, and God bless them.
01:43:54.840 And, and I hope that they can come around to become more independent in their thinking
01:43:57.660 because they're, they, you can literally replace the, the, the dialogue.
01:44:03.060 I mean, the, the jokes from one late night guy to the next guy, and then put them in
01:44:06.560 the mouth of this guy.
01:44:07.340 And it's just, it's just, there's no individual point of view because it is, it is really
01:44:11.780 ideologically captured and trapped.
01:44:13.800 And I, you know, I hope that they would realize that that's limiting.
01:44:17.920 I would hope that like, you didn't, you realize, you know.
01:44:19.880 Limiting, soul destroying.
01:44:21.620 I, I think it's, I don't think it's good.
01:44:24.080 And I think people have, have woken up to it and go like, that ain't, that, that's not,
01:44:27.820 that's not representative of our country.
01:44:30.300 And, and I don't, I think it's a job to question authority, no matter who's in authority.
01:44:34.280 Exactly.
01:44:34.860 You question, I mean, Saturday Night Live at its best, truthfully, we're trying to make our
01:44:37.960 friends laugh and question authority no matter, make fun of authority, no matter who's
01:44:41.360 in charge.
01:44:41.760 I remember, I remember we were making fun of Bill Clinton.
01:44:44.120 We had, Julia Sweeney played, uh, Hillary.
01:44:48.940 I just played, uh, played, um.
01:44:50.660 Monica Lewinsky.
01:44:51.520 No, no, no.
01:44:51.880 She played, uh, uh, the, the daughter, what's her name?
01:44:54.380 Chelsea.
01:44:55.100 Yeah.
01:44:55.260 And I remember like, you can't go after somebody's kid.
01:44:57.960 How dare you?
01:44:58.840 And I'm like, well, it's a kid, you know, we're not, she just put braces on.
01:45:02.880 So there, there seemed to be like an outrage with liberals.
01:45:06.440 They don't have as good a sense of humor.
01:45:07.960 They just, well, I should say that, I'm sorry.
01:45:09.640 They have, they're more sensitive and, and they just, they get outraged and, um, and they
01:45:16.540 could, uh, they don't like it.
01:45:18.140 So.
01:45:18.700 But at the time, the Saturday Night Live did it anyway.
01:45:21.380 Yeah, they did.
01:45:22.040 And they're coming back to it.
01:45:23.080 I really think that they've, you know, they're making fun of, of, of, of Biden.
01:45:26.180 They have, and they got a good crew there, really talented new group.
01:45:30.020 And, and they're going to, it's, it's an institution and like any institution, whether
01:45:34.480 the, you know, particular late night show or a network or, or Saturday Night Live, any
01:45:38.940 institution is going to be susceptible to, um, this ideological claptrap.
01:45:44.380 And it, and it is, but it's also, you can understand it.
01:45:47.160 And I think as I'm, you know, I was angry about it and, you know, I have to come to
01:45:51.540 it from a place of peace and understanding if I'm going to help it, if I'm going to participate
01:45:55.880 in this culture, I have to come from a place of understanding and it, you know, it doesn't
01:45:59.980 come naturally to me, but I got to come from a place of understanding, tolerance, forgiveness,
01:46:04.440 and empathy.
01:46:04.860 And it's hard to fight against that.
01:46:06.840 When you are getting this, you can only talk about this and everything's got to attack half
01:46:12.300 of the country and, um, they are susceptible to that.
01:46:16.740 And hopefully they'll realize because the ratings are getting smaller.
01:46:20.820 Yeah.
01:46:21.480 The number one guy is a very funny Greg, Greg Gutfeld, you know, my buddy, Jamie Lissow goes
01:46:27.380 on the show all the time.
01:46:29.060 Um, that's the number one show.
01:46:31.200 So if you want to, if it's about ratings, about money, well then think about the money.
01:46:35.480 And I think eventually Hollywood, if they're anything, they're whores and they will do what
01:46:39.620 makes money.
01:46:40.540 They didn't, you think that Sony Pictures wants to have a Christian division?
01:46:44.520 They didn't care about that, but they do now.
01:46:46.640 Why?
01:46:47.100 Because people like Angel Studios are making money non-traditionally and they didn't see
01:46:51.740 that coming.
01:46:53.120 When, when, uh, Mel Gibson made Passion of the Christ, they tried to destroy that.
01:46:57.940 Oh, I remember very, very well.
01:46:59.540 They hated him for that.
01:47:00.520 And they did not take him out.
01:47:01.940 And that became the first real internet like sensation.
01:47:05.200 Uh, and they couldn't stop it.
01:47:07.160 He's a tough man.
01:47:08.300 He can take it because he has a faith in God and he's like, and Catholicism is the closest
01:47:13.020 to the original words of Jesus.
01:47:14.640 And that's why it works for me.
01:47:16.760 Um, and I, I, there's a film that I want to make called about the, the Shroud of Turin
01:47:21.460 and it's the Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth.
01:47:25.440 It is.
01:47:25.980 And the fact that the stirp scientists tested it in the wrong place and didn't, didn't,
01:47:31.540 um, put quantify that, that there is these French nuns who were trying to repair in the
01:47:38.100 16th century, the Lord's, their Lord's burial cloth and that they would do this, this French
01:47:44.420 thing called this French weave called an invisible weave.
01:47:47.040 And that altered the findings of the, of the testing of the carbon dating.
01:47:52.060 And so there's this beautiful movie that we want to make and I'm, I'm going to make that.
01:47:55.880 And it's, it's just expensive to make movies.
01:47:57.960 And obviously, you know, I'm don't find myself in the good graces of Hollywood right now,
01:48:02.480 but luckily, um, there are enough people who, who want to bring a message of, of healing.
01:48:09.240 Are you going to approach Disney with that movie?
01:48:13.080 No.
01:48:13.940 You don't think Disney's going to come around anytime soon?
01:48:16.400 You know, it's so funny is that like, you know, when I got the Disney channel, you know,
01:48:18.840 my ego is like, maybe they have the, the, the, on the Disney channel to have the hot chick
01:48:23.080 and they would never make that movie now.
01:48:24.900 And I started turning it and they didn't have it on there, but it's on Amazon prime, baby.
01:48:29.100 So, um, Disney also is another organization that caught up in what sounds good, social justice,
01:48:35.660 you know, the, the equity, whoa, equity.
01:48:38.880 Yeah.
01:48:39.160 Well, whatever it is.
01:48:39.860 Okay.
01:48:40.460 But what, what equity is, is a grievance with the, it's people like, I want this.
01:48:45.360 And these, the idea that somehow we're going to get the same outcomes and they're guaranteed.
01:48:51.280 It was like the, you know, Kamala Harris's, uh, dog whistle now is this, this, is equity thing.
01:48:59.000 And what, what, what, if we don't have, as Thomas Sowell says, if we don't have the same
01:49:02.560 outcomes in the same family, how are we going to have that in society?
01:49:07.300 We have to have a meritocracy.
01:49:08.820 We have to have the best people and we have to have some sanity.
01:49:10.980 So, but Disney, no, they're not going to make a movie and I hope that they do well.
01:49:16.320 It's, it's a company that is, that I worked for many, many years ago.
01:49:20.440 I say it's a best brand in show business.
01:49:22.660 I will tell you a funny story that when I was there, I think, um, Bob Iger had just taken
01:49:27.440 over from a great man.
01:49:28.540 I really loved Eisner.
01:49:30.000 He's the one who turned that company around.
01:49:31.320 Um, and, um, he's a fan of mine, of my movies.
01:49:35.180 I love the guy, of course.
01:49:36.880 Um, but when Iger came in and then I was still there and you know, you're out when the new
01:49:40.820 regime comes in.
01:49:41.580 The old guy, I want to get rid of him.
01:49:42.580 Been there, yeah.
01:49:43.300 It was for a few months, been a few months.
01:49:45.700 And, um, they were talking about the movies and unfortunately I was involved in, you know,
01:49:51.240 at the regime.
01:49:51.840 It wasn't making a lot of money for movies at that time.
01:49:54.200 We were on our way out.
01:49:55.340 We all knew it.
01:49:55.960 And then there was a, um, a meeting with the board of directors and I think the Senator,
01:50:01.640 um, the, uh, Mitchell was one of the, yeah, on the board.
01:50:07.160 And they said, um, and Eisner was, I'm sorry, I remember Iger saying, well, you know, but
01:50:11.860 this is what we, they looked into the boats.
01:50:13.260 Well, the boats made 18 million last year profit.
01:50:16.120 And then the, the parks made this, made the 34 million profit.
01:50:21.200 Then why, why the movies, they lost money.
01:50:23.620 Why, why, why do we need to make these movies?
01:50:26.220 Let's just not make movies.
01:50:27.120 Just do the boats.
01:50:29.260 And he said, well, um, Mr. Secretary, um, I think the movies are what get people on the
01:50:36.120 boats.
01:50:38.940 So, uh.
01:50:39.740 So, uh, U.S.
01:50:40.860 Senators aren't the best judges of.
01:50:44.280 No, surprisingly.
01:50:45.580 Yeah.
01:50:45.960 Aren't the best judges of what movies should be made for children and their families.
01:50:49.400 I hope Disney comes around.
01:50:50.880 They see what happens when they get too woke.
01:50:52.900 They get spanked.
01:50:54.340 Yeah.
01:50:54.480 They get spanked.
01:50:55.200 And, and they, um, you know, that that's a, a company that I got to root for and I got
01:50:59.580 to hope that they write the ship.
01:51:00.660 And, and, you know, money has a strange way.
01:51:02.760 American, that's the thing about America.
01:51:03.940 People come from all over, you know, in America, whatever they believe system.
01:51:07.640 America is a wonderful seductiveness about working your butt off.
01:51:11.640 You get successful making money.
01:51:13.340 And, and so we've had a wonderful check and balance here.
01:51:16.300 Usually with what makes the most money, let's keep doing that.
01:51:20.020 Yes.
01:51:20.700 So I would hope that Disney writes its ship and gets away from this trying to indoctrinize
01:51:25.200 our, our children.
01:51:26.420 How awful is that?
01:51:28.640 Depressing.
01:51:28.960 It was really bummer that the fact that I, you know, my wife and I would have to watch
01:51:32.960 the movies first before we let our kids, the last few years, we have to watch the movie
01:51:36.220 first before we let our kids see it.
01:51:37.560 And let's see what's, let's just check it first.
01:51:39.960 Then my parents never did that to me.
01:51:41.160 They took me to see the Godfather, Sonny Corleone.
01:51:44.180 They didn't ask me, how did you deal with that?
01:51:45.820 You know, we just, we, they didn't want to get a babysitter.
01:51:48.160 So, but, so we would watch these movies just to make sure, well, my wife would, you know,
01:51:54.560 she does most 90% of the child rearing, but, and to make sure that, that they're not getting
01:51:59.700 any stuff that we don't want them to have.
01:52:01.700 Yes.
01:52:02.640 And that, that's not okay.
01:52:04.060 That's not good for their business.
01:52:05.620 It's not good for society to like, that you're putting out stuff there that is undermining
01:52:12.100 a traditional family.
01:52:13.300 And trying to destroy the lives of kids.
01:52:15.620 I mean, that's pretty dark.
01:52:16.600 It doesn't get any worse than that.
01:52:19.400 How would you rate Trump?
01:52:21.080 Not politically, not personally, but from a comedy standpoint?
01:52:24.440 Well, I've met him a few times.
01:52:25.660 Nice guy.
01:52:26.600 I liked him.
01:52:27.340 You think he's funny?
01:52:27.940 Very likable.
01:52:28.420 Absolutely.
01:52:29.320 That's the thing about it.
01:52:30.380 It's like, you know, you have a guy who's genuinely has a sense of humor.
01:52:33.860 Yeah.
01:52:34.000 He tries to make jokes.
01:52:35.020 And then the jokes are like, he said this, you know, will he be a dictator on day one?
01:52:40.020 But then that's, you know, it's okay.
01:52:41.700 It's a joke.
01:52:42.440 He's joking.
01:52:43.340 He doesn't mean, it's like, no, he's going to be, you know.
01:52:45.660 So, he's got to be super careful.
01:52:48.260 That's why I feel sorry for anybody in the public eye.
01:52:51.440 And unfortunately, during COVID, he listened to the wrong people.
01:52:55.880 And he trusted the wrong people.
01:52:57.660 But I think he learned from that.
01:52:59.160 And I think this time, hopefully, you know, I don't think he's going to, I don't think
01:53:05.920 he's going to make that mistake.
01:53:07.060 I hope not.
01:53:07.880 You know, I mean, I hope he doesn't just put in the bankers in charge of the banks
01:53:11.360 and then the, you know, pharma people in charge of the CDC and the FDA.
01:53:15.760 And I'm hopeful.
01:53:17.120 But I think anybody who doesn't need it, who would, I mean, I wouldn't want to run for
01:53:23.760 president.
01:53:24.360 No chance.
01:53:24.980 But he's subjecting himself to this.
01:53:29.040 I mean, wow.
01:53:31.420 That's rough.
01:53:32.960 And I admire anybody who wants to serve their country in a capacity.
01:53:38.420 And if you think about traditionally with a John Adams, to be a doctor, an attorney, the
01:53:46.380 highest thing he could be was to be a public servant and go into politics.
01:53:50.660 That's what he felt was the, his highest calling.
01:53:54.080 And I think we've moved away from that now.
01:53:58.500 So I, you know, I want what's best for this country.
01:54:01.980 And I do think I like governments that are less, administrations, I should say, that are
01:54:06.940 less confident so that they don't want to go around, start more wars, blow up the world.
01:54:12.300 And I think we're at a time financially in this country, you just can't keep spending
01:54:16.260 another trillions and trillions of dollars and expect this just to be magic.
01:54:20.660 taken care of.
01:54:21.880 This, this isn't an issue.
01:54:23.560 This is a real problem.
01:54:24.940 And this administration, and the same thing with the Republicans in Congress, this Ukraine
01:54:28.920 war has to end.
01:54:30.000 We had to get out of it.
01:54:30.880 And whether it's Robert Kennedy, who's a great guy, or, or whether Trump gets in and
01:54:36.760 we have to end this war because it's different than just these skirmishes and smashing up
01:54:43.420 parts of the world, which is also awful.
01:54:45.000 What they did with, you know, what Obama and Hillary Clinton administration did to Libya
01:54:49.320 was just dreadfully awful.
01:54:51.620 And you could saw that-
01:54:52.520 Killed all those people for no reason at all.
01:54:54.220 For no reason.
01:54:54.740 And then what's happening in Europe and the people who are leaving, and it's still a mess
01:54:57.860 there.
01:54:58.240 That is something that's, that's a war crime.
01:55:00.740 That's a human rights violation.
01:55:03.020 And we got to stop this war because this, this guy has the most nuclear weapons.
01:55:09.120 And I'm not saying he's going to use it.
01:55:10.580 We might.
01:55:11.720 But if you push, you keep poking a bear in the eye enough, that bear is going to lash
01:55:18.520 out and do something.
01:55:19.940 And 300, over 350,000 Russians died, have died at least in this war.
01:55:25.360 That's like seven, eight Vietnams for us over a 19 year period for us.
01:55:30.880 They lost more people in World War II.
01:55:33.120 They're the ones that won.
01:55:34.500 I don't know.
01:55:35.400 World War II.
01:55:36.260 They, 20 million people.
01:55:38.400 They know what that sacrifice is.
01:55:40.700 And they're not going to bend for this.
01:55:42.780 We have to, it's not going to be perfect.
01:55:44.500 Like in any divorce, Ukraine's not going to get everything they want.
01:55:48.040 Russia's not going to get everything they want, but there has to be a cessation of human
01:55:52.580 carnage.
01:55:54.000 This has to stop.
01:55:55.660 And whatever we got to do to do that, whoever administration is going to do that.
01:55:59.660 And the Republicans also have spinelessly, you know, Senator Graham is just a warmongering
01:56:06.140 weasel.
01:56:07.200 We have to, these people need to be kicked out of office, even if they're replaced by party
01:56:11.400 that I don't, I'm not fond of right now.
01:56:14.120 We got to get rid of these people who, and if you are for war, get rid of them, vote them
01:56:19.040 out.
01:56:19.260 If you find out who your Senator and Congressman are voting for so that we can end this and
01:56:24.640 stop it.
01:56:25.920 As a Christian, what do you make of politicians who call themselves Christians and then cheerlead
01:56:31.920 and vote to fund carnage that doesn't help anyone that results only in killing?
01:56:37.380 Like, is that, that doesn't seem like a Christian position to me.
01:56:40.520 They are hypocrites and they are hypocrites because not only are they continuing to slaughter,
01:56:46.300 but they're also financially benefiting from it.
01:56:48.380 So you have like, I mean, at least in some ways, the cat's out of the bag.
01:56:53.620 Biden, what's left of Biden admitted that the money's not leaving the country.
01:56:59.720 It's just going down the street to the pharmaceutical, I mean, sorry, to the military industrial complex.
01:57:04.240 Raytheon's got that, these hundred billions.
01:57:06.460 Don't, don't worry.
01:57:07.800 It's like, no, let us worry.
01:57:10.540 Let us worry very much that we are exporting this murder, that we're exporting the slaughter
01:57:16.320 and the taxpayers.
01:57:17.640 And then the congressmen also are, can invest in this.
01:57:21.140 That, you know, congressmen, senators, I mean, that can make money off the slaughter.
01:57:26.120 That, that is truly evil.
01:57:28.820 I agree with you completely.
01:57:30.660 So we need to stop that and, and, and hopefully this will, this new election will, will bring
01:57:36.960 about an end to it.
01:57:37.840 It's got to stop.
01:57:38.820 We can't let it spread and we can't let it fester and it's not going to be perfect, but
01:57:42.260 no divorce, no end of war is, but it has to stop.
01:57:46.400 So I want to circle back to where I began, which is your conversion or your evolution through
01:57:52.020 Christianity, Catholicism.
01:57:53.560 How did that happen?
01:57:54.500 Well, there's two beautiful things.
01:57:59.380 One is to know that, that there is far too many stars in the, in the sky that are necessary
01:58:08.260 for the universe to continue.
01:58:11.140 It seems to be, and there's far too much spermazoid flowers for flowers to continue and they don't
01:58:16.500 need to be that beautiful color.
01:58:18.600 There seems to be an exuberance in creation.
01:58:20.920 There's just too much.
01:58:21.840 And there seems to be a celebration, a celestial whoopee, as Alan Watts would say.
01:58:27.680 And, and that's a really beautiful thing.
01:58:29.780 There's too much exuberance in nature.
01:58:31.940 I love that.
01:58:33.280 And there, there's, there's definitely a joyfulness to all of it.
01:58:36.360 And it's like, wow, look at that.
01:58:37.600 Sometimes you look up at the clouds and you go like, that's as beautiful as anything that
01:58:42.540 Monet could have ever made.
01:58:44.300 Yes.
01:58:44.600 And it's temporary and everything is temporary.
01:58:47.520 So that's like the, when you realize that the pyramids are at their half-life, 5,000 years
01:58:53.680 and in 5,000 years, there'll be dust.
01:58:55.260 And they go like, wow, how much more so us.
01:58:58.660 And, and if you think, if our works, whatever we do, if you think our, our good works are
01:59:05.720 but dirty rags in the face of the Lord, how much more our pride, our vanity.
01:59:14.080 So that, um, came to me by having children and the incredible beauty, um, and gift that
01:59:24.460 they are and how they see the world and that their eyes point out to see everything and
01:59:29.640 that they know that they're connected to everything.
01:59:31.200 And they have to be taught that there's a separation between them and their mother.
01:59:34.220 They're, this is something that they just naturally, they know they're a part of everything.
01:59:37.560 When the astronauts look back from the moon, if they ever went, they, they saw one thing.
01:59:44.980 If they had gone.
01:59:46.040 If they had gone.
01:59:46.820 On the set that they were on, where they were shown a picture of it.
01:59:49.600 In Laurel Canyon, I think.
01:59:51.260 They saw the picture of Earth and they saw one thing and we're that one thing.
01:59:56.000 And then at the same time, when this is coming to me and my beautiful children are,
02:00:00.640 they're not having a second chance at, um, to be the father, to be a better father this
02:00:06.700 time, a more present father, um, to see the rise of evil in the world and to be concerned
02:00:13.880 about that.
02:00:14.440 And to know that now is the time to be courageous.
02:00:19.400 Now's the time for people to step up and say injustice, whether it's the current attack
02:00:24.400 on women, whether it's, um, the educational system, not educating kids.
02:00:30.140 I say, take your kids out of college right now.
02:00:32.060 Now is not the time they let your kids come.
02:00:35.360 Who would, how much do you have to hate your kids to send them to Harvard undergrad right
02:00:39.480 now?
02:00:39.560 I agree completely.
02:00:40.600 The business schools are great.
02:00:41.680 Don't them still going good.
02:00:42.880 They're all conservative too.
02:00:44.040 80%.
02:00:44.520 But, um, so you see a rise in evil and you have to know that like, this is happening
02:00:51.920 and I've been very blessed that I got to meet some people who educated me about, you
02:00:56.040 know, evil and in a meeting, Dr. M. Scott Peck, um, when I was young, young man, um, and
02:01:03.380 reading his books about this first self-health book was, was, was his, it was the road less
02:01:08.500 traveled.
02:01:09.000 And it was a book about how to be a better person, how to grow as a human being spiritually
02:01:12.540 and not take the easy road of just repetitive behavior or just not learning, not growing,
02:01:17.840 but take the harder road, becoming a better person, learning, loving, being tolerant, being
02:01:23.500 forgiving, being patient, which is, you could easily see how we transitioned into Christianity
02:01:28.040 because he was a Christian without saying, he was just already had the, the followings
02:01:33.200 of Jesus in his heart.
02:01:34.560 And so it was a natural opening.
02:01:36.020 And he had a very interesting story about him, about how he was the doctor and the murder
02:01:43.680 of the massacre of My Lai, which is the Vietnam massacre in the late sixties.
02:01:47.980 And he was assigned as a psychologist to, of, by the army, the U S army, uh, to, um, kind
02:01:57.080 of figure out the, um, psychological makeup of the company Baker who did the massacre.
02:02:01.900 And so he did, and it was very interesting, his findings.
02:02:06.780 One, one thing is the only reason what we ever learned about the massacre of, of, of
02:02:10.140 My Lai was, um, was because the helicopter pilot who witnessed it flying above couldn't
02:02:17.440 live with it anymore.
02:02:19.220 And so a year later to the day, he confessed and, and just said, well, this is what happened.
02:02:25.500 This is, this is what these people were massacred.
02:02:27.520 And so during the psychological evaluation, um, which the army never released, he said
02:02:36.240 that these people want, were people, wasn't like these particular company had members
02:02:41.720 in it that were, that had some grievances and that they, um, you know, had other issues
02:02:47.860 and problems.
02:02:48.340 And some of them maybe had, uh, joined the army for, to avoid this or that, or were in
02:02:54.200 prison or whatever.
02:02:54.940 And then that also was just one aspect of it.
02:02:58.120 The other aspect of it is that they were being in a war that, um, wasn't as much support
02:03:07.380 back home.
02:03:08.500 So they were, and they were going through and they were getting sniped at by the enemy
02:03:11.880 sniper fire and they were killing their friends and they, they weren't able to get the enemy.
02:03:15.900 They weren't able to get them.
02:03:17.340 Um, and they just kept happening.
02:03:18.920 And so by the time they got to a village, they said, where is it?
02:03:21.580 Where is it?
02:03:22.300 Where are they?
02:03:23.800 And that the people, and this was something that's interesting because it, it reflected
02:03:27.540 on my childhood because Asian people, when they are nervous, when they are frightened,
02:03:32.840 they laugh.
02:03:34.200 That is true.
02:03:35.080 When like all my relatives, when they are nervous or when they, they laugh, that's their
02:03:39.940 go-to thing.
02:03:40.660 So when the Vietnamese people who were having guns pointed at them were nervous and afraid,
02:03:45.420 they laughed.
02:03:46.120 And that these people went ballistic at that point and just murdered the entire village,
02:03:50.920 just murdered them all, killed them all.
02:03:53.540 Um, and so he did this and handed it in and, um, the army never released it.
02:04:00.900 So moving further, um, he wrote a book about, um, after he became, uh, he became a Christian and
02:04:09.400 then wrote a book about, uh, healing human evil called, called people of the lie.
02:04:14.980 And it's a short book, but very good book about evil.
02:04:18.060 And it's important now to identify and to help heal human evil.
02:04:23.140 And it's a, it's a fascinating book, but it helps you identify people in your life and
02:04:29.380 people who, um, are capable and who are, who are evil and evil does exist.
02:04:34.660 And we need to, uh, arm ourselves with, uh, with God and arm ourselves with knowledge so
02:04:43.440 we can protect ourselves for what's, what's arise in evil.
02:04:46.600 And, um, the last chapter of the book, well, one of the chapters, which is really stunning,
02:04:53.100 amazingly awful, was this one kid who was depressed and he went to go see Dr. M. Scott
02:04:56.940 Peck and he, he found out that his brother had killed himself.
02:05:01.940 And, um, and he realized this is a really good kid, you know, and he's depressed, obviously
02:05:07.680 his brother killed.
02:05:08.460 And then he found out that for, um, birthday present, his parents gave him a gun.
02:05:14.880 It's like that, which is absolutely stunned.
02:05:17.260 And, uh, but it wasn't just that it was the same gun that his brother killed himself
02:05:22.920 with.
02:05:24.200 So there was a realization, these, and he talked to the parents and he realized there
02:05:28.840 were, these were evil people.
02:05:31.240 And so that potentiality for human evil, we need to recognize and help heal, protect
02:05:41.500 ourselves, protect our families.
02:05:42.760 And, um, the last chapter on it, which is, uh, demonic and satanic possession.
02:05:50.440 And it was like, you know, I'm reading this book, it's three o'clock in the morning at
02:05:54.780 this point.
02:05:55.080 I'm starting to freak out like this.
02:05:57.220 And, um, but he postulated this theory.
02:05:59.960 He said like the people who seem to be, um, possessed seem to be very angelic people that
02:06:08.800 this entity is trying to overtake and they're fighting back for it to free themselves and
02:06:17.380 evil, even evil, they, it has to succumb to the will and this, and of Jesus Christ and
02:06:24.300 must submit to it.
02:06:26.860 And, um, um, which he, the, the, the theory that he postulates, well, this is somebody who's
02:06:34.320 fighting back.
02:06:35.020 So therefore it makes sense that there are people who don't fight back and just accept
02:06:40.060 it and go with that.
02:06:40.860 And that kind of, that demonic possession becomes complete.
02:06:44.860 And I think we have to, we have to, um, to know that that's, uh, that's something that,
02:06:53.540 um, exists as real human evil, whatever you want to call it.
02:06:57.660 And so what Dr. M. Scott Peck in the bigger picture tried to explain was that like, obviously
02:07:02.280 science and theology had to split at a certain point.
02:07:04.620 To survive, because theology was, um, crushing science.
02:07:10.320 Yes.
02:07:11.120 When you have, um, when Copernicus discovers that the sun is a solar, you know, the beginning
02:07:17.960 of the, the middle of our solar system, not the earth, and it's not part of the church
02:07:22.960 doctrine that has to be recanted.
02:07:27.040 Obviously science had to split.
02:07:28.580 So you had the, the, the, the laws of nature, which is just, you know, they just took the
02:07:35.800 lawmaker out and they still the laws, you know, just like we have theological laws.
02:07:41.640 So when you have that separation, what Dr. M. Scott Peck tried to do was to bring it back
02:07:45.320 together.
02:07:45.660 So when somebody is like a murderer or somebody is bad, you know, in science, in science medicine,
02:07:50.440 you call them sick.
02:07:51.700 Theologically, you call them evil.
02:07:53.620 They're one in the same.
02:07:55.140 So in, in the attempt to cure human evil, I think it's, um, it makes us, we need to, to
02:08:02.160 do both and to work together.
02:08:03.900 And I think through, through bringing people closer to God, bringing our nation, which was
02:08:09.680 founded under God, I think we have a chance to heal our nation and, and cause there is
02:08:14.640 a rise in evil and I think we all see it.
02:08:16.520 So it's, it sounds like you're saying the rise in evil turned you toward God.
02:08:21.400 Well, I think, I think both bookends, the beauty of it and my children and the beauty of, of seeing,
02:08:26.320 of seeing what God's gifts are.
02:08:27.840 And there's so many.
02:08:29.280 And the, um, and also, but also to be, um,
02:08:33.900 I, you have to recognize that this, you know, whether it's a cycle or what, what happens,
02:08:38.220 you know, that there is evil, there seems to be a rise in evil in the world and what's
02:08:42.200 happening.
02:08:42.540 And just like with, you know, in Europe in the 1920s, um, the New York times called these
02:08:48.760 small group of people, a bunch of misfits and nothing will ever come of them.
02:08:54.320 The national socialists.
02:08:56.140 I think we need to be very careful how we move.
02:08:59.420 And I, and I believe the United States must continue to be, um, the guide and for the
02:09:09.840 world as an example of freedom, not perfect freedom, not, not in a perfect society by any
02:09:15.020 stretch, but a one that, that aims for equality that aims to be able to express itself, which
02:09:21.720 and free speech is the beacon call for freedom in the world.
02:09:27.360 And they're, you know, nobody's swimming away from America.
02:09:31.060 They're not trying to get out.
02:09:32.360 They're trying to get in for a reason, because this is the greatest experiment in freedom
02:09:35.660 in human history and continues to be.
02:09:38.640 And we must fight and be vigilant.
02:09:40.860 And now's the time for courage to protect it.
02:09:44.040 So that's why I wrote this book.
02:09:47.560 What an amazing conversation.
02:09:51.720 Rub.
02:09:52.440 Thank you.
02:09:53.040 Thank you.
02:09:53.980 Thank you for having me, Tucker.
02:09:55.360 I feel like I owe you for therapy.
02:09:56.660 Let me see how much money I got on.
02:09:58.540 For therapy.
02:09:59.880 Oh, this has been a great session.
02:10:00.820 I sat silent like a good shrink, just taking notes, which I'm going to file away.
02:10:05.600 I'm sorry.
02:10:06.420 There's trouble with his mother.
02:10:08.900 Robert, what are you doing?
02:10:10.040 Put that down, Robert.
02:10:11.460 Robert, stop messing around.
02:10:13.220 Stop, Robbie.
02:10:13.880 See what happens.
02:10:14.620 I grew up with that.
02:10:15.360 See what happens.
02:10:16.220 You fell down.
02:10:16.840 You hurt yourself.
02:10:17.340 See what happens.
02:10:18.180 Did your siblings become comedians, by the way?
02:10:20.900 No, they became a very good audience.
02:10:22.860 They did.
02:10:25.220 They did.
02:10:26.020 Yeah.
02:10:26.920 That's sweet.
02:10:28.780 My sister, she's my favorite laugh.
02:10:33.000 My dad was the best.
02:10:34.100 He had a great laugh.
02:10:35.180 My mother would laugh at the right time, every time.
02:10:38.620 And then she'd go, what does it mean?
02:10:41.220 What is he saying?
02:10:42.100 But she was laughing because she was nervous and afraid?
02:10:45.660 Well, she was laughing because everybody else was.
02:10:47.760 So I'm sure she was nervous.
02:10:50.480 But she would laugh and to be polite.
02:10:52.540 I mean, that's the thing.
02:10:53.160 Filipinos are the nicest people.
02:10:55.160 They really are.
02:10:56.320 They even have a country not even named after anything Filipino.
02:10:58.840 It's named after King Philip.
02:10:59.820 They don't even want to change it.
02:11:01.520 They're not working.
02:11:02.480 But it's nothing Filipino.
02:11:03.800 What about this cultural appropriate?
02:11:05.720 No, no, no.
02:11:06.120 It's okay.
02:11:06.640 We like it.
02:11:07.380 We're used to it.
02:11:08.940 They're a great combination of sweet and tough.
02:11:10.920 They were tough under the Japanese.
02:11:12.960 Really tough.
02:11:13.740 They're tough.
02:11:14.500 They never stopped fighting.
02:11:15.940 No.
02:11:16.740 They're tough and they love America.
02:11:18.920 I know.
02:11:19.560 You will not go to a home in Manila and you won't find, in one of the homes there, you
02:11:23.920 will find a picture of General MacArthur.
02:11:27.460 You will find it for sure.
02:11:28.900 They love America.
02:11:30.080 When I was there in 1972, a little boy, I'll never forget.
02:11:32.740 They still had the bayonets of the Marines, American Marines who died.
02:11:36.720 They still had the bayonets there with the helmet on it.
02:11:38.980 They were still taking care of it every day.
02:11:40.240 And I was like, this is 1972.
02:11:42.160 It was absolutely stunning.
02:11:44.740 But that's how much, that's how grateful they were for the sacrifice for some other
02:11:48.380 people coming from another country to save them.
02:11:51.380 Yeah.
02:11:52.280 You know, that's-
02:11:53.180 From true oppression.
02:11:54.260 The Japanese were, I love Japan, but the Japanese were, the Imperial Army is very, very
02:11:59.560 harsh.
02:12:00.520 Unbelievably brutal.
02:12:03.300 But you know that they thought themselves as liberators.
02:12:05.540 That's why they hated the Philippines.
02:12:07.100 That's why they didn't take them prisoner during the Bataan Death March.
02:12:09.720 Yeah.
02:12:09.880 My uncle was a soldier.
02:12:11.600 So, you know, if you fell down, they just killed you.
02:12:13.940 And they just, the Japanese killed maybe upwards of 70,000 Filipinos.
02:12:21.900 Then nobody knows.
02:12:22.620 Nobody knows how many.
02:12:23.760 Because they didn't take them prisoners.
02:12:24.840 Because they were fellow Asians that were fighting against them.
02:12:29.620 Yeah.
02:12:29.840 So, they didn't take, they took umbrage to that.
02:12:33.320 So, they wouldn't take them prisoners.
02:12:34.760 They didn't like the whole idea of it.
02:12:36.040 So, that brutality for such an incredible culture.
02:12:39.280 It is an incredible culture.
02:12:40.460 And an incredible people.
02:12:42.240 And a beautiful, clean, organized, wonderful country.
02:12:46.180 But just to let you know that, like, there's no, no country that is, um, that is not susceptible
02:12:53.640 to do horrible things and to perpetuate evil in the world.
02:12:57.560 And we have to, you know, be a buttress to it, you know, to really think about our actions
02:13:03.440 and to make sure that we're coming from a place of, of reflection and that we're doing
02:13:12.640 the work of God.
02:13:13.260 And this country, it's a good country.
02:13:16.500 I love this country.
02:13:17.860 I will fight for this country.
02:13:19.720 And I, I want to raise my kids in this country.
02:13:22.000 I'm not, there's no other place to go.
02:13:23.760 It's like, you know, we'll just go to this other place.
02:13:25.620 This is it.
02:13:26.420 This is the last stand for freedom in the world.
02:13:28.460 This is it.
02:13:29.340 So, we're staying.
02:13:31.400 We're going to, we're going to fix.
02:13:32.320 We're going to fight.
02:13:32.960 And we're not going anywhere.
02:13:33.820 And I want to make sure, whatever time I have left, and God willing, that, that God has
02:13:37.640 given me my health and, and a beautiful family.
02:13:40.940 I'm, whatever time I have, I want to, I want to make sure that I'm going to be
02:13:43.240 sure that the, the potentiality, the potential for my kids to have the same, to live their
02:13:47.460 dreams, this crazy kid, Filipino Jew, and have a chance to live his dreams, get on Saturday
02:13:57.100 Night Live and stay live from New York a Saturday night and to make movies that my dad could see.
02:14:01.860 I, I just, what, what an amazing, what an amazing country this is.
02:14:07.860 How beautiful.
02:14:08.740 My mother, she never thought of herself.
02:14:10.560 She's, she only, I was American.
02:14:12.600 My father was American.
02:14:13.960 Her father was an American soldier, which she didn't meet until she was older.
02:14:16.460 So, she came to San Francisco by accident.
02:14:19.960 But she said, I love this country.
02:14:21.420 Don't anybody ever say anything bad about this country ever.
02:14:23.700 I love this country.
02:14:24.840 And she did with a passion.
02:14:26.900 People who come here from, and had, you know, from other countries, they get it.
02:14:30.420 Yeah, I know.
02:14:31.440 They understand what an incredible, unique society and what this offers.
02:14:38.880 So, that, that was drilled into my head.
02:14:42.060 You said you wanted to end on a prayer?
02:14:44.080 Yes, I, I would.
02:14:45.260 I'd like to end, um, I'd like to end on something that my friend said right before this, this new
02:14:54.380 flap in the media about me.
02:14:55.820 He said, what an incredible coincidence.
02:14:57.700 And there is no coincidence.
02:14:58.780 Everything's meant.
02:15:00.080 And this is a reflection for the day.
02:15:02.620 August 10th.
02:15:04.240 We've been our own worst enemies most of our lives.
02:15:07.340 And we've often injured ourselves seriously as a result of a justified resentment over a slight wrong.
02:15:14.900 Doubtless, there are many causes for resentment in the world.
02:15:17.700 Most of them providing justification.
02:15:19.880 But we can never begin to settle all the world's grievances or even arrange things so as to please everybody.
02:15:27.560 If we've been treated unjustly by others or simply by life itself, we can avoid compounding the difficulty
02:15:33.600 by completely forgiving the persons involved and abandoning the destructive habit of reviewing our hurts and humiliations.
02:15:42.640 So, I would say, um, you know, thank you for this time.
02:15:50.020 Thank you for this time, Jesus, and allowing me to speak my mind with this wonderful conversation.
02:15:55.180 And with my new friend, Tucker, and God bless this great country and protect our children.
02:16:01.160 God bless my daughter.
02:16:02.140 And God bless all the daughters and all the people that are having problems in the world.
02:16:06.040 And we thank you for all these opportunities that you give us.
02:16:09.380 In Jesus' name we pray.
02:16:10.380 In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.
02:16:11.680 Amen.
02:16:12.420 Amen.
02:16:13.600 Thank you.
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