The Tucker Carlson Show - Russell Brand on his Baptism, Big Pharma, Donald Trump, and the Globalists’ Attempt to Become God

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00:01:00.920 I can't believe I'm here.

00:01:25.580 Thank you for having me. This is wild.

00:01:33.580 Oh, it makes me feel much better.

00:01:39.640 Thank you. Oh, yeah.

00:01:44.060 Thank you very much.

00:01:46.200 I can't believe I'm here.

00:01:49.900 I woke up yesterday morning in the little rural town where my wife and I live with our many, many dogs.

00:01:59.060 And it was 40 degrees and I woke up at like five in the morning.

00:02:02.340 The dogs are like, what do you mean?

00:02:03.940 If you stir early, the dogs resent it, particularly the females.

00:02:08.240 Very entitled.

00:02:09.040 But anyway, and I thought, I can't believe I'm getting on the road for a month to coast to coast, 16 different cities.

00:02:18.900 And weirdly, it put me in such a good mood.

00:02:24.820 It put me in such a good mood.

00:02:26.700 And I just couldn't, I love where I live and I'm totally happy there.

00:02:29.700 But I just couldn't wait to see other people who I'm on the same page with.

00:02:38.060 I just couldn't wait.

00:02:40.020 I couldn't wait.

00:02:42.200 And I feel like it's really important.

00:02:45.260 I've spent a lot of time, I've been fishing very intensely recently trying to think this through.

00:02:49.540 And there is something about being outside in the quiet, running water that, you know, sort of opens up your brain.

00:02:57.560 And I do think that the two things that hold people who have my beliefs, your beliefs, back is, one, the feeling that, you know, you're totally isolated, which is by design.

00:03:16.180 Like, they give you the feeling that all the things that you're upset about are totally fine.

00:03:20.980 And it's always been this way.

00:03:22.360 It's always been this way.

00:03:22.980 Are you crazy?

00:03:23.880 Like, you're nuts.

00:03:25.400 There have always been, like, all these vagrants, like, living on the sidewalk.

00:03:28.760 You don't remember that?

00:03:30.200 Are you a freak?

00:03:31.880 You some kind of fascist?

00:03:33.040 Shut up.

00:03:33.520 And you're like, oh, maybe there's something wrong with me.

00:03:37.340 And the second feeling that they give you by design is that there's nobody else in the world who agrees with you.

00:03:43.220 You're just this island alone.

00:03:45.360 Like, sitting fuming in your living room.

00:03:49.000 Yeah, well, that is, I don't want to repeat the profanity someone just used to describe it, but it is not true.

00:03:56.820 In fact, the opposite is true.

00:03:58.760 You are not a freak.

00:03:59.820 You are not a fascist.

00:04:00.980 You're not a malcontent.

00:04:02.140 There is nothing wrong with you.

00:04:03.740 You're not the crazy person.

00:04:09.420 You're the normal person.

00:04:11.280 Your desires are totally normal.

00:04:16.500 You have no desire for, like, world domination.

00:04:19.560 What?

00:04:20.780 You have no desire to tell your neighbors what to do.

00:04:24.560 You don't stay up late worrying about the sex lives of people in Brooklyn.

00:04:27.920 You don't really want to know the details of the sex lives of the people in Brooklyn because it's weird.

00:04:36.060 But you're kind of happy to let them do their thing.

00:04:39.200 They don't feel that way at all about you.

00:04:41.600 They stay up late worrying that somewhere in some small town, maybe in Alabama, or here in Maricopa County, Arizona, there's somebody who disagrees with them.

00:04:52.360 And they want to control you on the basis of that because it's not politics, of course.

00:04:59.520 It's a religion for them.

00:05:01.960 And I would guess that a lot of people in this room already have a religion.

00:05:07.500 And they don't need to worship politicians as gods.

00:05:14.240 They don't think political parties are churches.

00:05:16.440 They're instruments to give them space to do the things that really matter to them.

00:05:23.580 Like find a mate, have children, do something useful in the world.

00:05:27.540 Maybe have grandchildren, maybe sit at the head of the table as a patriarch or matriarch.

00:05:31.600 Like, these are the things that matter.

00:05:35.100 Those are not freakish desires.

00:05:38.920 That's the essence of what it is to be normal and well-adjusted.

00:05:42.480 Where you have a personal life that you don't necessarily share on Instagram.

00:05:50.560 Because not everything is for public consumption.

00:05:54.040 You're allowed to have your own eccentric little opinions.

00:05:57.760 You're allowed to have relationships with other people that aren't on public display.

00:06:02.700 You're allowed to live a life without being spied upon because privacy is a prerequisite for freedom.

00:06:08.500 You'll notice they spent, you know, decades telling you about the right to privacy.

00:06:19.120 Which is really a way of saying abortion is great.

00:06:20.680 Okay.

00:06:23.120 But they had no interest in privacy whatsoever.

00:06:26.680 And anyone who does have an interest in privacy would be a little concerned by the fact that your phone is literally listening to you at all times.

00:06:32.640 And that your every movement, your every utterance is being tracked by governments, by business.

00:06:40.140 Is that privacy?

00:06:41.080 No.

00:06:41.520 That's like something that the North Korean government would like to achieve but can't.

00:06:45.480 And our government has.

00:06:46.340 And that's no problem for them at all.

00:06:48.160 Because they don't care about privacy because they don't care about the individual.

00:06:51.920 And they don't care about your interior life or your right to have one.

00:06:56.360 No.

00:06:56.900 They believe in the collective.

00:06:58.760 They believe in the group over the person.

00:07:00.680 They don't acknowledge the individual as a meaningful category at all.

00:07:05.720 And so when, you know, their president is revealed as senile, no problem.

00:07:09.960 Just slip in somebody else.

00:07:11.100 It doesn't make any difference at all because it's not about the person.

00:07:14.480 It's about the group.

00:07:16.800 And if you're wondering, like, what that was, where what everyone in this room has been saying for four years,

00:07:22.840 which is the president has no idea where he is,

00:07:26.380 they were forced to admit that and all of a sudden the guy just disappeared.

00:07:29.800 Like, never saw him again.

00:07:32.420 Went to Rehoboth and never came back.

00:07:34.980 And they throw in this other chick who, like, 20 minutes ago we were all making fun of for being Montel Williams' old side piece.

00:07:39.860 And now she's the, she's not just the single most accomplished human being in the history of Western civilization.

00:07:51.840 She actually created Western civilization.

00:07:54.360 But she's also a religious figure at the level of, say, the Buddha.

00:07:59.300 She's a font of joy.

00:08:00.740 You feel joy?

00:08:01.360 It comes from her.

00:08:03.340 She's a living river of joy.

00:08:05.580 Give her thanks for your joy.

00:08:06.920 Anyway, what?

00:08:10.240 Montel Williams' side piece is the source of all my joy?

00:08:12.800 Really?

00:08:13.960 Does anyone really believe that?

00:08:16.960 Well, no normal person believes that.

00:08:20.420 But people who could care less about the individual, the distinctions between people,

00:08:26.220 the sort of person who doesn't even acknowledge that individuals have names and souls,

00:08:30.260 because they are created not by the government, but by God.

00:08:33.060 And if you don't acknowledge that, then it doesn't matter who the person wearing the crown or holding the nomination is.

00:08:42.960 It doesn't matter.

00:08:43.560 It's irrelevant.

00:08:44.800 Because it's about the organization.

00:08:46.440 It's not about you.

00:08:47.340 You are irrelevant.

00:08:49.000 You live as a worker bee only to serve the collective.

00:08:52.160 That's a totalitarian worldview.

00:08:54.080 That's not a normal worldview.

00:08:55.320 That's a diseased worldview.

00:08:57.340 That's sick by definition.

00:08:59.260 Listen, if you begin to think of other human beings, not as people, as individuals with names and souls and hopes and opinions,

00:09:10.760 but as instruments, as little widgets waiting in a bin to be assembled for your greater glory,

00:09:18.580 if you start to think of people like that, there's nothing you can't do to them.

00:09:22.460 There's nothing you can't justify doing to them, up to and including really hurting them.

00:09:26.520 And you've seen that in movement after movement throughout world history,

00:09:30.960 where a leader decides these aren't actual people.

00:09:34.140 These are whatever.

00:09:35.020 They're voters.

00:09:35.660 They're cannon fodder.

00:09:36.800 They're worker bees.

00:09:38.500 They don't matter.

00:09:40.120 That's the mindset.

00:09:41.580 And this country, of course, was founded on the opposite precept,

00:09:44.800 the precept that God created people

00:09:47.780 and the land

00:09:50.240 and the birds

00:09:51.860 and the deer and the dogs

00:09:53.180 over whom we have dominion,

00:09:55.320 but we did not create them.

00:09:56.600 We didn't create animals.

00:09:57.940 We didn't create mountains.

00:09:59.340 Somebody else created them.

00:10:00.160 God created them.

00:10:01.980 We can't destroy them because we didn't make them.

00:10:06.000 And the country was based on that

00:10:08.060 true idea.

00:10:09.800 And if you didn't make something,

00:10:12.420 if you don't own something,

00:10:13.520 you have to show respect to it.

00:10:15.360 It's not yours.

00:10:16.480 Other people don't belong to you, actually.

00:10:19.600 There's a limit to what you can tell them to do

00:10:21.860 because they're not objects.

00:10:25.940 And it was on that idea

00:10:27.720 that this country flourished as the freest place in human history,

00:10:31.520 that idea was a pretty simple idea,

00:10:33.300 but again, it's an acknowledgement of what is true.

00:10:35.680 We don't have absolute power.

00:10:36.860 We have some power.

00:10:37.600 We have a standing army.

00:10:38.340 We've got a massive legal code,

00:10:40.840 but there are limits to what we can do to you

00:10:42.960 because we don't own you,

00:10:44.840 because you're not slaves.

00:10:46.380 You're free people,

00:10:47.680 because God created you.

00:10:49.460 We didn't.

00:10:54.180 And that's often described as a radical idea.

00:10:57.400 I don't think it is.

00:10:58.220 I think it's table stakes.

00:10:59.240 I think it's reality.

00:11:00.640 That's just fundamentally true

00:11:01.920 whether you acknowledge it or not.

00:11:03.900 And our government was forced to acknowledge it

00:11:06.160 because of our founding documents, famously.

00:11:09.320 So I would say that people on our side

00:11:12.920 have completely mis-framed the debate over, say, free speech.

00:11:16.700 It's not just annoying or woke

00:11:18.720 when someone punishes you for giving your opinion.

00:11:22.160 It's totalitarian.

00:11:23.720 It's the first step to hurting you

00:11:25.420 because it's a sign that they don't consider you human.

00:11:28.360 You can't tell another human being what to believe

00:11:32.940 because you don't own that person.

00:11:35.360 It's literally that simple.

00:11:36.840 So this is just a long way of saying

00:11:42.200 what I really wanted to convey,

00:11:44.500 which is how grateful I am

00:11:45.760 to be in a room full of thousands of people

00:11:47.600 who know that.

00:11:48.560 Don't just know that intellectually,

00:11:49.820 but feel it.

00:11:51.480 And I just hope that you remember,

00:11:53.280 no matter what happens after this,

00:11:55.140 and it's the beginning of September

00:11:56.540 of an election year,

00:11:57.780 so I can promise you

00:11:59.000 America will not look as it does today

00:12:00.740 in two months.

00:12:01.280 It won't.

00:12:02.400 It won't.

00:12:03.260 A lot's going to happen

00:12:04.140 that we can't control or predict.

00:12:06.820 But trust me,

00:12:07.480 it'll be a different place

00:12:08.520 by the first week in November.

00:12:10.860 But no matter what happens,

00:12:12.460 and I'm praying for good outcomes,

00:12:13.960 of course,

00:12:14.360 I know everybody in this room is,

00:12:16.000 no matter what happens,

00:12:17.020 just remember that you are not weird.

00:12:19.960 Weird.

00:12:20.760 So weird.

00:12:23.080 Say they castrate your children, people.

00:12:24.540 It's just weird.

00:12:26.400 Okay.

00:12:26.800 Say they,

00:12:31.340 well, I love you too.

00:12:34.040 And,

00:12:34.660 but,

00:12:38.880 but what I wanted to say is,

00:12:42.760 everyone,

00:12:43.940 every kind of normal person,

00:12:45.100 which is the overwhelming majority

00:12:46.880 of people in this country,

00:12:48.540 in this world, actually,

00:12:49.740 particularly in this country,

00:12:50.580 no matter where they're from,

00:12:51.460 no matter what they look like

00:12:52.200 or who they voted for in the past,

00:12:53.280 they know that.

00:12:54.660 They know that,

00:12:55.140 and they all want the same things.

00:12:57.560 And,

00:12:57.960 I would say 80% of the ruling class's time

00:13:00.760 is spent convincing us to hate each other.

00:13:04.240 And,

00:13:04.760 you know,

00:13:05.780 one of the reasons it's such a thrill for me

00:13:07.300 to travel

00:13:08.040 is that there's so little

00:13:09.480 actual experience of hate

00:13:10.980 when you're wandering around.

00:13:12.040 I mean,

00:13:12.220 I think of myself,

00:13:13.100 probably correctly,

00:13:14.200 as one of the most hated people

00:13:15.300 in America.

00:13:17.780 And,

00:13:18.280 no,

00:13:18.480 I'm not whining about it.

00:13:19.480 I don't care,

00:13:20.180 you know.

00:13:20.900 Badge of honor.

00:13:23.940 But,

00:13:24.340 I don't want to make it about me.

00:13:29.700 But I'm just saying,

00:13:30.480 like,

00:13:30.640 just ask yourself,

00:13:31.740 when was the last time

00:13:33.060 that you were,

00:13:34.500 I don't know,

00:13:34.960 on your front lawn

00:13:35.980 or at Walmart

00:13:36.700 or standing in line at the DMV

00:13:38.180 and you heard one person

00:13:39.260 attack somebody else

00:13:40.100 on the basis of,

00:13:40.800 like,

00:13:40.920 race?

00:13:42.240 I'm 55.

00:13:42.960 I've never heard that.

00:13:43.780 Not one time.

00:13:44.760 I've lived here the whole time.

00:13:46.240 That's actually not what the country is.

00:13:47.740 Like,

00:13:47.840 people are really nice to each other,

00:13:48.860 by and large.

00:13:50.840 People are really warm to each other.

00:13:52.600 They actually have a lot in common

00:13:54.340 with each other.

00:13:56.140 And if you watch the way

00:13:57.420 the country is portrayed,

00:13:58.660 riven by racial tension,

00:14:01.700 the horrifying legacy of America,

00:14:04.980 all right,

00:14:05.640 stop.

00:14:06.960 You're boring me.

00:14:08.500 But you're also lying to me.

00:14:10.500 That's not the America

00:14:11.360 I live in at all.

00:14:13.180 People are pretty nice.

00:14:15.280 You sort of deal with people individually

00:14:16.920 and you don't kind of see them

00:14:18.680 as some alien.

00:14:19.540 They're like Americans.

00:14:20.440 They're just like you.

00:14:21.940 Kind of distressed about inflation

00:14:23.420 and their mortgage payments

00:14:24.480 and how their kids are doing

00:14:25.840 and they don't want to castrate

00:14:27.120 their kids, please.

00:14:29.020 It's like nine freaky rich ladies

00:14:30.460 in Santa Monica want that.

00:14:31.660 That's it.

00:14:32.460 You know,

00:14:32.680 that's just not a common thing.

00:14:35.560 It's not,

00:14:36.120 that's just not,

00:14:37.360 it certainly happens a lot.

00:14:38.720 I would say

00:14:39.040 it's a disproportionate amount

00:14:40.480 of like fourth grade school teachers

00:14:41.640 I happen to notice.

00:14:43.220 As someone who married

00:14:44.140 a fourth grade school teacher,

00:14:45.100 I don't know what happened

00:14:45.660 to that group.

00:14:46.920 A lot of them have gone insane.

00:14:48.600 But,

00:14:49.980 sorry,

00:14:50.840 just true.

00:14:52.220 I used to love fourth grades.

00:14:53.680 I was proud to marry

00:14:54.680 a fourth grade teacher.

00:14:55.640 They're so sweet.

00:14:57.400 This is pre-castration.

00:14:58.540 Now I'm kind of freaked out by them.

00:15:00.260 But,

00:15:00.320 but whatever.

00:15:02.900 Outside of a couple

00:15:03.920 small pockets

00:15:04.900 of truly unhappy,

00:15:06.900 miserable people

00:15:07.820 who've never had

00:15:08.720 a sound night of sleep

00:15:09.940 in their life,

00:15:11.200 who don't have a single

00:15:12.120 functioning personal relationship,

00:15:14.140 who hate themselves

00:15:15.640 so much

00:15:16.540 that they have to

00:15:17.140 transfer that hate

00:15:17.900 onto strangers,

00:15:19.520 aside from them,

00:15:21.900 most people are like,

00:15:23.060 they think it's bizarre.

00:15:24.360 Because it is.

00:15:25.360 They think all of this

00:15:26.180 is bizarre.

00:15:27.320 More drug addicts?

00:15:28.320 Like,

00:15:28.480 who wants that?

00:15:30.200 Nobody wants that.

00:15:31.140 There's nothing sadder

00:15:32.060 than addiction.

00:15:32.780 There's nothing sadder

00:15:33.600 than watching people

00:15:34.320 kill themselves.

00:15:35.540 Like,

00:15:35.700 it's just awful.

00:15:37.380 And it's being pushed on us

00:15:38.740 by people who are truly in misery,

00:15:40.820 who deserve our prayers,

00:15:42.540 but their desires are not

00:15:44.120 an accurate measure

00:15:45.100 of what the country's actually like.

00:15:46.640 And so to stand in a room full of people

00:15:48.040 or to travel across the country

00:15:49.380 from my weird little remote

00:15:50.460 place where I live

00:15:51.820 and encounter not a single person

00:15:54.540 who yells at me

00:15:55.680 or just like,

00:15:56.120 hey man,

00:15:56.760 I don't agree with you,

00:15:57.620 but it's great to meet you

00:15:58.380 or whatever.

00:16:00.180 Everyone's just so nice.

00:16:02.580 And I have to say,

00:16:03.400 as someone who's spent his life

00:16:04.220 in the media,

00:16:04.640 and I won't go on about this,

00:16:05.600 but 33 years in the media,

00:16:06.940 it really makes me despise them truly.

00:16:11.160 Not just for lying,

00:16:13.360 but for the divisive nature

00:16:15.220 of their lies.

00:16:17.760 You know,

00:16:17.960 if you make people hate each other,

00:16:20.220 I'm not sure there's a graver sin

00:16:21.940 than that.

00:16:23.800 You know,

00:16:24.320 and if you're a parent,

00:16:25.120 you know.

00:16:25.620 Can you imagine anything darker

00:16:27.160 than convincing your own children

00:16:28.480 to dislike each other?

00:16:30.020 It's the deepest hope

00:16:31.320 in the heart of every parent

00:16:32.580 that his or her children

00:16:33.760 will love each other.

00:16:34.480 That's the thing

00:16:35.880 that you leave behind

00:16:36.760 is the love between your children

00:16:37.940 for each other.

00:16:39.360 Not for you,

00:16:39.820 you're going to die,

00:16:41.100 but for each other.

00:16:42.980 And that's the thing

00:16:43.820 that gives old people comfort

00:16:45.040 as they pass out of this world

00:16:46.640 is the knowledge,

00:16:47.320 the certain knowledge

00:16:47.860 that their children

00:16:48.440 will continue the family

00:16:50.000 through their love

00:16:50.680 of each other.

00:16:52.480 And so as a parent,

00:16:53.800 any normal parent,

00:16:54.700 you don't have to read

00:16:55.240 a parenting book

00:16:55.940 to come to this conclusion.

00:16:56.920 It's a product

00:16:57.340 of your deepest instinct

00:16:58.380 and desires.

00:16:59.600 You want the people

00:17:00.660 in your care

00:17:01.520 to love each other

00:17:02.540 and get along.

00:17:03.640 And it takes a truly sick puppy

00:17:05.420 to want the opposite.

00:17:07.300 Did you know

00:17:07.940 that there are multiple companies,

00:17:09.600 big companies,

00:17:10.280 whose names you probably

00:17:11.040 have never heard of,

00:17:12.260 that keep a living profile,

00:17:13.900 a dossier on you

00:17:15.580 based on everything you do

00:17:17.120 on the internet,

00:17:17.860 which is most things

00:17:18.900 at this point.

00:17:20.020 This actually happens.

00:17:21.200 It's not a crime show.

00:17:22.040 It's not some fantasy

00:17:22.940 on television.

00:17:23.500 This is the world

00:17:24.160 that you live in.

00:17:25.560 Everything you do online

00:17:26.820 is recorded

00:17:27.580 and sold

00:17:28.480 to big companies,

00:17:29.540 advertisers,

00:17:30.340 and even the U.S. government.

00:17:32.960 What are they doing

00:17:34.100 with this information?

00:17:35.100 Well, in some cases,

00:17:36.300 nothing good at all.

00:17:37.560 It's the equivalent

00:17:38.140 of looking through your window,

00:17:40.780 filming you,

00:17:41.600 and selling what they see

00:17:43.200 to someone you've never heard of.

00:17:44.520 Who's doing this?

00:17:45.420 Data brokers are doing this.

00:17:47.200 They're vultures

00:17:47.760 who make billions

00:17:48.660 selling something

00:17:49.240 that doesn't even belong to them,

00:17:50.800 your private data.

00:17:51.720 Again, like filming you

00:17:52.620 through your bedroom window.

00:17:54.340 Some people know this already,

00:17:55.540 but they continue

00:17:56.100 to do nothing about it.

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00:20:20.020 So I would just say

00:20:35.300 two things

00:20:35.780 and we're going to

00:20:37.220 sit and do a show

00:20:38.780 with one of my

00:20:39.340 all-time favorite people,

00:20:40.460 Russell Brand,

00:20:42.000 who's such a,

00:20:44.700 by the way,

00:20:45.100 if I can just say

00:20:45.700 not to digress,

00:20:48.120 you can imagine

00:20:48.520 having dinner with me.

00:20:49.200 It's like no one

00:20:49.820 can stay on the topic.

00:20:50.680 But Russell Brand

00:20:52.860 is such a perfect example

00:20:53.980 of what I was just

00:20:54.640 talking about.

00:20:55.320 Russell Brand and I

00:20:55.900 have right about

00:20:56.780 zero in common.

00:21:00.480 He's from another land.

00:21:03.060 He is what we used

00:21:03.620 to call a foreigner.

00:21:07.720 When I was at CNN,

00:21:08.780 by the way,

00:21:09.080 I love the word foreigner.

00:21:10.160 I think it's hilarious.

00:21:11.580 And they came into

00:21:12.640 my office one day

00:21:13.440 and I worked for CNN

00:21:14.180 for years.

00:21:14.920 I was never liberal

00:21:15.600 just on the record.

00:21:17.540 But, you know,

00:21:17.800 it was a different time.

00:21:18.480 It was the 90s

00:21:19.920 and I called someone

00:21:20.960 a foreigner

00:21:21.380 and the standards

00:21:22.560 and practices chick

00:21:23.460 comes into my office

00:21:24.120 and she goes,

00:21:24.540 well, I just want you

00:21:25.720 to know what CNN

00:21:26.160 and our standards

00:21:26.780 prohibit the use

00:21:27.580 of foreigner

00:21:28.160 or foreign.

00:21:30.100 There's no such thing

00:21:30.880 as foreign.

00:21:32.180 We call it international.

00:21:37.080 And I wanted to say,

00:21:38.420 you are a Wellian freak.

00:21:39.460 Get out of my office

00:21:40.060 before I vomit.

00:21:41.820 But I was like 29

00:21:43.140 and so I didn't.

00:21:44.420 I was like, okay.

00:21:44.940 So, over the next week

00:21:48.220 I must have used

00:21:49.060 the phrase

00:21:49.520 I have an international

00:21:50.520 object in my eye

00:21:51.680 like six times.

00:21:56.220 When you work

00:21:57.000 in television,

00:21:57.760 particularly for like

00:21:58.600 a humorless fascist regime

00:22:00.280 like the cable news network,

00:22:01.780 you find ways

00:22:02.860 to amuse yourself.

00:22:03.840 It's like the Vietnam

00:22:04.520 POWs blinking SOS

00:22:06.120 with their eyelids.

00:22:07.520 Like you just want,

00:22:08.720 you want to feel

00:22:09.460 like you're still human.

00:22:10.440 It's these little

00:22:12.840 acts of resistance

00:22:13.740 that keep you joyful

00:22:15.260 inside.

00:22:15.820 But anyway,

00:22:17.120 so Russell Brand

00:22:18.820 is a foreigner.

00:22:20.540 He's from a foreign

00:22:21.280 country called the UK.

00:22:23.700 Russell Brand

00:22:24.120 was a movie star.

00:22:26.200 I haven't seen a movie

00:22:27.160 since the late 90s.

00:22:29.680 Russell Brand

00:22:30.280 is obviously,

00:22:31.580 you know,

00:22:32.040 kind of like alternative.

00:22:33.820 If you haven't seen

00:22:34.440 Russell Brand,

00:22:34.900 you'll see him,

00:22:35.340 you'll know what I'm

00:22:35.880 talking about

00:22:36.140 in just a minute.

00:22:36.640 And Russell Brand

00:22:39.020 has for his whole life

00:22:40.220 been a man of the left.

00:22:43.160 And so like,

00:22:43.800 I didn't know that much

00:22:44.480 about Russell Brand

00:22:45.180 other than he's like

00:22:46.040 international,

00:22:46.900 pardon me,

00:22:47.340 foreign,

00:22:47.740 famous person.

00:22:49.160 And somebody sent me

00:22:51.640 a YouTube clip

00:22:52.560 about three years ago

00:22:55.780 of Russell Brand

00:22:56.620 talking into camera.

00:22:57.860 He's just remarkably articulate,

00:22:59.360 like God-given eloquence

00:23:00.880 that the rest of us

00:23:01.760 just really envy.

00:23:04.680 But he was explaining

00:23:05.860 what was going on

00:23:08.180 with the COVID lockdowns.

00:23:10.120 And it was so resonant.

00:23:13.080 It was like something,

00:23:13.900 it was like a tuning fork.

00:23:14.960 When you hear something

00:23:15.980 that's true,

00:23:17.980 even if you don't have

00:23:18.740 evidence to support

00:23:19.800 that it's true,

00:23:20.980 the truth rings in your head

00:23:23.260 differently from a lie.

00:23:25.980 If you've had this experience,

00:23:27.940 when you hear the truth,

00:23:31.380 it has an effect on you.

00:23:33.540 And you just know,

00:23:34.420 you just know in your soul

00:23:36.500 that's true.

00:23:38.120 You couldn't defend it in court,

00:23:39.680 but you don't need to

00:23:41.060 because you know.

00:23:42.840 And I'm watching this guy

00:23:44.100 and I'm just,

00:23:45.200 I don't think I've been

00:23:46.240 that thrilled

00:23:46.720 watching a YouTube video.

00:23:48.480 Most of my YouTube videos

00:23:49.440 are about tying trout flies.

00:23:50.820 So, you know,

00:23:51.180 I've got a pretty boring diet

00:23:52.520 on YouTube.

00:23:54.060 But this video,

00:23:55.860 I just thought,

00:23:56.640 this guy,

00:23:57.420 we have nothing in common

00:23:58.380 whatsoever.

00:23:59.180 I'm sure he hates me.

00:24:00.640 I'm sure he's on the record

00:24:01.540 hating me.

00:24:01.960 And I'll Google myself

00:24:02.560 so I've never checked.

00:24:03.960 But this man

00:24:05.200 is on the same page

00:24:06.840 I'm on.

00:24:07.460 We're hearing the same music.

00:24:10.220 He knows what's true

00:24:12.500 and he's in that weird,

00:24:15.300 very small percentage

00:24:16.620 of people

00:24:17.240 who know what's true

00:24:18.260 and are brave enough

00:24:18.920 to say so,

00:24:19.520 who've made this decision

00:24:20.480 like,

00:24:20.840 I just don't care.

00:24:22.280 Or maybe I do care,

00:24:23.180 but I'm going to do it anyway.

00:24:25.220 And of course,

00:24:25.720 the definition of courage

00:24:26.720 is not not being afraid.

00:24:29.780 People with head injuries

00:24:30.740 are not afraid.

00:24:31.920 You know,

00:24:32.160 they don't know to be.

00:24:33.840 The definition of courage

00:24:34.820 is doing something

00:24:35.500 when you are afraid

00:24:36.340 and jumping out

00:24:37.800 of the airplane anyway.

00:24:39.440 And that's what I was

00:24:40.380 watching this man.

00:24:41.500 I thought to myself,

00:24:42.120 this guy is really famous

00:24:43.420 and he's famous

00:24:44.820 in the entertainment business

00:24:45.960 which has no sense of humor

00:24:47.480 about dissent whatsoever.

00:24:48.820 He'll never be in a movie again.

00:24:52.240 And he's doing it anyway.

00:24:54.300 And by the way,

00:24:54.860 people on the right

00:24:55.500 don't even like him.

00:24:57.200 It's not like he's jumping

00:24:58.360 to his natural home

00:24:59.720 among American conservatives.

00:25:01.480 This guy looks like a freak.

00:25:02.180 Are you kidding?

00:25:03.740 I'd be like,

00:25:04.060 who's the long-haired Brit?

00:25:05.440 Like, no thanks.

00:25:07.300 And then all of his buddies

00:25:08.400 are going to be like,

00:25:09.000 oh, you're a fascist now.

00:25:09.880 We hate you.

00:25:10.600 Cancel your dinner party invites.

00:25:11.920 Like, you're done.

00:25:13.540 And he's doing it anyway.

00:25:19.400 And that really has been

00:25:22.860 my experience

00:25:23.940 for the last four years

00:25:26.940 which is, you know,

00:25:29.000 the world that I lived in

00:25:29.920 is gone.

00:25:31.100 And if you live long enough,

00:25:32.260 you'll experience that

00:25:33.120 and it's a poignant experience.

00:25:35.200 All the institutions

00:25:36.180 that you loved

00:25:36.940 and believed in,

00:25:38.480 people you were close to,

00:25:40.080 the rituals you had,

00:25:41.360 the places you went

00:25:42.080 to eat lunch,

00:25:42.880 the places you walked

00:25:43.660 with your wife,

00:25:44.220 they're all gone.

00:25:45.140 Or they're changed

00:25:45.900 unrecognizably

00:25:46.780 and you can't go back.

00:25:47.960 It's like going back

00:25:48.520 to your hometown,

00:25:49.500 you know, as an adult.

00:25:50.780 Everything looks so small

00:25:51.720 and sad.

00:25:52.260 And you're like,

00:25:52.540 wow, I thought we were

00:25:53.260 kind of impressive.

00:25:54.140 No.

00:25:55.840 If that doesn't happen

00:25:56.580 to you, don't do it.

00:25:57.540 It's super sad.

00:25:59.440 And so that happened,

00:26:00.680 I think, not just to me,

00:26:01.680 but to an awful lot

00:26:02.460 of people

00:26:02.920 during a very short period

00:26:04.560 starting around Memorial Day

00:26:05.900 in 2020

00:26:06.680 when the revolution began.

00:26:08.660 And very few people

00:26:09.520 knew what it was.

00:26:10.320 It seemed like just some guy

00:26:11.580 was getting roughed up

00:26:12.360 by the police in Minneapolis.

00:26:13.640 But we didn't know

00:26:14.440 what it was,

00:26:15.460 it was the overthrow

00:26:16.240 of our civilization.

00:26:17.700 And I think it's

00:26:18.540 pretty obvious now.

00:26:20.080 So you look back

00:26:21.400 at the cost to you

00:26:22.720 in your own life,

00:26:24.240 the people you're alienated from

00:26:25.520 who just like won't invite you

00:26:26.560 to Thanksgiving,

00:26:27.280 the family members

00:26:28.100 who are mad at you

00:26:29.080 and won't talk to you

00:26:29.880 and all the things

00:26:30.620 that you've lost.

00:26:32.120 And I bet a lot of people

00:26:33.260 in this room know exactly

00:26:34.080 what I'm talking about

00:26:34.760 and the sadness

00:26:35.280 that accompanies that.

00:26:36.820 The feeling of loss,

00:26:38.060 like I really lost

00:26:38.800 something I loved

00:26:39.660 and I feel it very strongly.

00:26:41.840 I'll never get over it.

00:26:43.320 But there is a countervailing force

00:26:46.220 as there is in the universe.

00:26:47.560 It's called good,

00:26:48.260 by the way.

00:26:51.300 It's called good.

00:26:53.720 I heard someone

00:26:54.540 really brilliant

00:26:55.300 the other day say,

00:26:56.000 you know,

00:26:57.120 there's a minister said,

00:26:58.100 you know,

00:26:58.440 people always ask me,

00:26:59.820 what do you make

00:27:00.680 of evil in the world?

00:27:03.580 But no one ever asked me,

00:27:05.220 what do you make

00:27:05.900 of good in the world?

00:27:08.680 And if you think about it,

00:27:10.460 why should any of us

00:27:11.380 be surprised

00:27:11.960 that there's evil

00:27:12.620 in the world?

00:27:14.260 Right?

00:27:14.820 No one should be surprised

00:27:15.920 if there's evil

00:27:16.380 in the world.

00:27:18.060 Whether it's the five-year-old

00:27:19.180 with leukemia

00:27:19.780 or it's a world war

00:27:20.740 and innocents die,

00:27:21.780 you know,

00:27:21.920 it's evil.

00:27:22.300 It's so obvious

00:27:22.840 it's right in front of us.

00:27:24.520 More inexplicable,

00:27:26.080 harder to understand,

00:27:27.500 less predictable,

00:27:29.160 is the existence

00:27:29.900 of selfless good.

00:27:32.240 Is it the existence

00:27:33.080 of like unexpected altruism

00:27:35.160 where people literally

00:27:35.940 lay down their lives

00:27:37.340 for their neighbors,

00:27:38.380 which happens all the time.

00:27:39.120 You see it all the time

00:27:39.780 in small and large ways.

00:27:42.060 And I guess the point

00:27:42.720 I would make,

00:27:43.280 and I will stop on this,

00:27:44.160 is that you see it now

00:27:45.020 more than ever.

00:27:47.080 And I'll just,

00:27:47.760 I'll give you my testimony

00:27:48.700 on this,

00:27:49.140 which is as sincere

00:27:50.200 as I can be.

00:27:51.300 That for all the friendships

00:27:52.600 that have been destroyed,

00:27:54.140 certainly the acquaintanceships

00:27:55.400 that no longer exist,

00:27:56.560 all the people

00:27:56.940 who would never text me back,

00:27:58.920 ever,

00:28:00.340 there are so many people

00:28:02.140 I've met

00:28:02.580 who I never thought

00:28:03.300 I had anything in common with

00:28:04.520 at all.

00:28:05.680 In fact,

00:28:06.100 there are some

00:28:06.440 who I really disliked

00:28:07.420 or thought I disliked.

00:28:08.320 And it turned out

00:28:09.700 we had everything in common.

00:28:11.180 We had everything in common.

00:28:12.600 And the relationships

00:28:13.360 that I have

00:28:14.240 with people now,

00:28:15.520 including Russell Brand,

00:28:16.760 are so much deeper

00:28:19.600 than any relationship

00:28:21.000 I've ever had in my life.

00:28:24.820 It is such an abundance

00:28:26.280 of blessings.

00:28:27.280 Right before this,

00:28:28.740 I shouldn't even say this,

00:28:29.580 but it's true.

00:28:30.560 I've given a lot of speeches

00:28:31.880 and been on a lot of stages

00:28:33.300 with a lot of people,

00:28:34.600 you know,

00:28:35.020 not all of whom

00:28:35.620 won't return my text now.

00:28:36.840 In fact,

00:28:38.320 none of whom will.

00:28:38.900 But anyway,

00:28:39.260 whatever.

00:28:40.680 And so you sort of

00:28:41.460 know the protocol

00:28:42.080 backstage or whatever

00:28:43.100 and you sit

00:28:43.600 and tell dirty jokes

00:28:44.260 or whatever you do,

00:28:44.980 talk about it,

00:28:45.460 run a show or whatever.

00:28:47.020 Russell Brand

00:28:47.480 comes up to me

00:28:47.880 and he goes,

00:28:49.180 will you come back

00:28:49.840 and pray with me?

00:28:51.860 Ugh.

00:28:56.120 And it made me emotional.

00:28:57.460 And by the way,

00:28:57.820 if you had said

00:28:58.660 to me five years ago,

00:29:00.820 if Russell Brand

00:29:01.360 had come up

00:29:01.640 and been like,

00:29:01.940 will you pray with me?

00:29:02.580 And he'd be like,

00:29:02.940 no, I'm married, dude.

00:29:03.940 I don't go that way.

00:29:06.020 You know,

00:29:06.440 I just wouldn't,

00:29:07.400 I don't know,

00:29:07.920 I wouldn't even have

00:29:08.580 understood that language

00:29:09.560 at all.

00:29:10.460 And I wouldn't,

00:29:11.340 I would have been so ashamed

00:29:12.780 just and self-conscious

00:29:14.420 and I never would have

00:29:16.200 admitted it.

00:29:16.760 If I'd prayed

00:29:17.420 with a man backstage,

00:29:18.780 like,

00:29:19.080 I don't think so.

00:29:20.180 I'm not telling anybody

00:29:20.940 about that.

00:29:21.420 That's too weird.

00:29:24.460 And we did

00:29:25.340 and it was just beautiful.

00:29:26.720 And now I'm so proud

00:29:27.820 to say it,

00:29:28.400 not because I'm like

00:29:29.380 any kind of

00:29:30.840 role model.

00:29:36.280 I'm hardly a role model.

00:29:38.960 And that's kind of

00:29:39.800 the beauty of it.

00:29:40.500 I'm the opposite

00:29:41.060 of a role model.

00:29:41.720 I worked in cable television

00:29:42.720 for 30 years.

00:29:43.480 You think I'm a role model?

00:29:45.040 No.

00:29:47.060 And that's okay.

00:29:48.880 I'm not going to speak

00:29:49.720 for Russell Brand.

00:29:50.260 I don't think he's always

00:29:50.820 been a role model either.

00:29:51.720 But when you have

00:29:56.980 a really honest relationship

00:29:58.280 with someone

00:29:58.960 and you have confidence

00:30:00.300 that the opinions

00:30:01.100 of strangers

00:30:01.600 don't matter at all

00:30:02.500 because you're loved

00:30:04.400 by a force that's

00:30:05.340 bigger than Twitter,

00:30:06.840 you don't care.

00:30:10.760 You can admit it.

00:30:12.440 And you can take

00:30:13.500 deep joy from it.

00:30:15.820 And that is happening

00:30:17.080 to me on an almost

00:30:18.320 daily basis.

00:30:18.880 I'm not always praying

00:30:19.460 with Russell Brand

00:30:20.020 backstage in arenas

00:30:20.900 in Phoenix.

00:30:21.220 I'll be honest.

00:30:23.200 But I am having

00:30:24.180 conversations and I bet

00:30:25.340 you are too if you

00:30:26.140 think about it.

00:30:27.540 I bet you are too.

00:30:28.420 You're having conversations

00:30:29.180 that are so much more

00:30:30.300 honest than anything

00:30:31.120 that would have been

00:30:31.540 possible five years ago.

00:30:32.760 Anything.

00:30:34.520 And all I'm saying

00:30:35.660 and I will stop on this

00:30:36.700 is that is something

00:30:38.420 to be grateful for.

00:30:40.380 It's something to acknowledge.

00:30:41.600 Yes, evil exists.

00:30:43.700 Yes, it is more obvious

00:30:46.100 than it's ever been.

00:30:46.940 I can't say if it's

00:30:47.620 more prevalent or not.

00:30:48.880 I'm not God.

00:30:49.780 But I can certainly say

00:30:50.800 it's more obvious

00:30:51.520 that none of this

00:30:53.160 is political.

00:30:53.880 It's political.

00:30:54.380 Oh, it's political.

00:30:55.220 No, it's not.

00:30:55.880 It's spiritual, obviously.

00:30:57.320 There's no rational

00:30:58.080 explanation for anything

00:30:59.000 that we're seeing.

00:31:00.200 The only explanation

00:31:01.640 is the oldest

00:31:02.820 of all explanations

00:31:04.080 which there is a battle

00:31:05.920 all around us

00:31:07.280 at all times

00:31:08.000 that we cannot see

00:31:08.960 between good and evil.

00:31:12.600 Obviously.

00:31:13.960 Obviously.

00:31:14.400 I first came

00:31:16.300 to this conclusion

00:31:16.780 a few years ago

00:31:17.500 and I was like,

00:31:17.980 wow, it's such

00:31:19.340 a revolutionary concept.

00:31:20.920 I don't know

00:31:21.160 if I dare tell anybody this.

00:31:23.400 And then I realized,

00:31:24.040 oh, it's the oldest

00:31:24.800 concept in history?

00:31:27.680 Every book ever written

00:31:28.640 is about that?

00:31:30.200 I'm 55

00:31:30.760 and I finally figured it out?

00:31:32.040 Okay.

00:31:33.160 Kind of a genius.

00:31:33.980 But anyway,

00:31:34.460 the point is

00:31:35.060 for all the time

00:31:36.860 that we spend

00:31:37.660 looking at things

00:31:38.460 and saying to ourselves

00:31:39.520 or I'll speak for myself

00:31:40.120 that I do it,

00:31:40.680 I'm like,

00:31:40.800 I can't even believe

00:31:41.500 that's happening.

00:31:42.080 That's just evil.

00:31:43.340 Hurting other people

00:31:44.160 is evil.

00:31:45.480 Period.

00:31:45.980 It's the definition of evil.

00:31:48.500 For all the time

00:31:49.280 I spend marinating in that

00:31:50.940 and feeling sad about it,

00:31:52.060 which is a lot,

00:31:53.340 I spend so little time

00:31:54.440 relatively speaking,

00:31:55.640 marveling over the displays,

00:31:57.580 the open displays

00:31:58.600 of love and kindness

00:31:59.900 and selflessness

00:32:00.620 and honesty

00:32:01.640 between people,

00:32:02.880 which is another way

00:32:03.380 of saying

00:32:03.760 I spend too little time

00:32:06.000 being grateful

00:32:06.520 for all the good

00:32:07.500 around me

00:32:08.240 and there's so much,

00:32:09.800 so much more

00:32:10.620 than there is evil

00:32:11.600 and that shouldn't

00:32:12.920 surprise us

00:32:13.540 because in the end,

00:32:14.480 good will win.

00:32:15.540 Period.

00:32:19.020 I don't know

00:32:19.760 where this goes.

00:32:21.260 I can't even guess

00:32:22.600 where this goes

00:32:23.500 but I know

00:32:24.660 who wins in the end

00:32:25.980 and that's good enough

00:32:27.340 for me.

00:32:28.140 Thank you.

00:32:35.740 I can sincerely say

00:32:37.160 you're one of the people

00:32:37.860 I most admire.

00:32:38.720 I grew up in Southern California

00:32:41.100 in the 70s

00:32:42.080 and people who sat

00:32:43.080 barefoot Indian style

00:32:44.480 in chairs

00:32:45.120 were considered

00:32:47.020 not on our side

00:32:47.980 and it's such

00:32:48.820 an incredible thing

00:32:49.920 for me

00:32:50.400 to feel this soulful

00:32:52.020 and real connection

00:32:52.680 to you

00:32:53.100 and to feel like

00:32:53.920 we have the same instincts

00:32:55.420 about things.

00:32:56.460 How would you describe,

00:32:57.580 I'm just going to

00:32:58.000 throw it out

00:32:58.840 because you're about

00:32:59.560 to find out

00:32:59.960 how much more articulate

00:33:00.900 he is than I am.

00:33:01.700 how would you describe

00:33:04.420 where we are

00:33:05.320 right now

00:33:06.180 as a world?

00:33:08.680 It's a bit weird.

00:33:13.160 Whole scenario

00:33:14.300 is rather weird.

00:33:16.220 Thank you so much

00:33:17.220 for having me,

00:33:18.120 a foreigner,

00:33:18.760 in your country.

00:33:23.740 Obviously,

00:33:24.300 it was quite easy

00:33:25.060 to get in,

00:33:25.680 no passport,

00:33:26.560 just traipsed in

00:33:27.480 across the border.

00:33:30.880 Trafficked a few kids over.

00:33:32.500 I'm sorry,

00:33:37.480 I'm sorry I laughed at that.

00:33:41.460 Yes.

00:33:43.080 Yes.

00:33:43.940 So it feels weird.

00:33:45.100 So I guess the question is

00:33:46.280 I have felt

00:33:47.400 a mixture of emotions

00:33:48.820 over the past couple of months

00:33:50.100 experiencing things

00:33:51.000 as I do

00:33:51.440 like a dog does

00:33:52.380 which is instinctively

00:33:53.320 by smell

00:33:53.860 and I have felt

00:33:55.260 great hope

00:33:55.680 as I express

00:33:56.220 but I've also felt

00:33:56.900 anxiety about

00:33:57.860 where things are going.

00:33:59.640 So you are

00:34:00.560 spiritually in tune

00:34:01.560 to put it mildly

00:34:02.660 are you hopeful

00:34:04.540 about the future

00:34:05.220 or despondent?

00:34:06.440 I was listening to you

00:34:07.760 just then

00:34:08.500 and I don't just mean

00:34:10.300 the bits where you were

00:34:10.980 very kind about me.

00:34:12.860 I paid attention

00:34:14.000 to everything

00:34:14.620 you were saying.

00:34:17.120 In fact,

00:34:17.880 it was quite difficult

00:34:18.320 because I needed

00:34:18.840 a wee quite badly

00:34:20.000 and I was listening

00:34:21.700 to you talking

00:34:22.360 about me

00:34:23.120 and I went,

00:34:23.820 oh no,

00:34:24.880 I'm going to miss

00:34:25.660 what would otherwise

00:34:26.500 be a wonderful experience

00:34:28.020 of listening to someone

00:34:29.560 I admire

00:34:30.200 talking in front

00:34:31.540 of an arena

00:34:32.500 of committed

00:34:33.520 spiritual people

00:34:34.560 about me

00:34:35.820 because of a

00:34:37.020 primary function.

00:34:40.300 In the midst of it,

00:34:42.140 I felt,

00:34:43.700 you know,

00:34:44.040 after I'd had the wee now,

00:34:45.320 I'd had the wee,

00:34:45.960 after that I felt

00:34:46.480 a great wave

00:34:47.200 of optimism

00:34:48.260 because this has been

00:34:50.120 a time of bewilderment

00:34:52.040 and delirium.

00:34:54.000 Perhaps,

00:34:54.680 I suppose,

00:34:55.960 the recent

00:34:56.900 Olympic opening ceremony

00:34:58.900 was a good example

00:35:00.580 was a good example

00:35:00.600 of how despair

00:35:03.360 and annihilation

00:35:04.560 can come about

00:35:06.020 from the bold

00:35:08.080 desecration

00:35:09.120 of things

00:35:10.220 that we vividly

00:35:11.680 understand

00:35:12.340 to be sacred.

00:35:18.740 As your great comedian,

00:35:21.960 George Carlin,

00:35:22.940 said,

00:35:23.380 when interests converge,

00:35:27.400 there is no requirement

00:35:28.720 for conspiracy.

00:35:30.560 There seem to be

00:35:31.580 a great many interests

00:35:33.180 that benefit

00:35:34.420 from,

00:35:35.080 as you addressed

00:35:35.940 earlier

00:35:36.520 at the podium,

00:35:37.300 that has mysteriously

00:35:38.960 disappeared now,

00:35:40.600 probably because

00:35:41.860 of the deep state.

00:35:45.340 It's probably

00:35:46.520 in Area 51.

00:35:48.140 No doubt.

00:35:48.960 Alex Jones

00:35:50.200 predicted

00:35:50.760 that would happen.

00:35:52.860 The podium

00:35:53.560 will be taken away.

00:35:55.140 Someone will come

00:35:55.700 and they'll take

00:35:56.040 that podium,

00:35:56.580 man.

00:35:59.180 There's extra

00:35:59.740 gender in the water supply.

00:36:02.100 Change that podium's gender.

00:36:05.500 All true,

00:36:06.360 by the way.

00:36:06.700 That's the crazy part.

00:36:08.480 I know,

00:36:08.780 it's extraordinary,

00:36:09.480 isn't it,

00:36:09.640 with Alex Jones?

00:36:10.660 If anyone else

00:36:11.780 was on film

00:36:12.500 saying that 9-11

00:36:14.040 would happen

00:36:14.660 and then 9-11

00:36:15.640 did happen,

00:36:16.880 you'd have to give

00:36:17.460 that person

00:36:17.940 a few passes.

00:36:19.540 I think there'd be

00:36:19.980 a national holiday.

00:36:21.300 It would be called

00:36:21.800 Nostradamus Day

00:36:22.760 if you actually

00:36:24.880 called it

00:36:25.540 in great detail

00:36:26.640 and instead people

00:36:27.220 were like,

00:36:27.380 oh, he's crazy.

00:36:28.120 Really,

00:36:28.400 then how'd he do that?

00:36:30.260 He's a sort of mystic

00:36:32.140 and I suppose

00:36:33.020 that our culture

00:36:35.000 makes no room

00:36:36.240 for mysticism

00:36:37.540 because if you

00:36:39.700 worship rationalism,

00:36:41.700 rationalism

00:36:42.560 and materialism

00:36:43.660 have at their apex

00:36:45.000 humankind

00:36:45.700 and the individual.

00:36:47.520 I spoke briefly

00:36:49.740 by text actually,

00:36:51.080 it wasn't even

00:36:51.340 a proper conversation,

00:36:52.140 I don't remember

00:36:52.460 pretending it was

00:36:53.200 a more intimate

00:36:53.980 connection than it was.

00:36:55.200 I had a text message

00:36:56.460 with Father Julian

00:36:58.000 of the Brompton

00:36:58.940 Oratory

00:36:59.580 and I asked him,

00:37:01.080 I guess he's a Catholic priest

00:37:03.680 and he said

00:37:05.580 that the enlightenment

00:37:07.240 in spite of the obvious

00:37:09.040 many miraculous achievements

00:37:10.900 of science

00:37:11.780 could also be regarded

00:37:13.160 as an amplification

00:37:14.600 of false light.

00:37:17.000 The false light

00:37:17.840 that drowns out

00:37:18.780 the true light.

00:37:20.460 Now a character

00:37:21.160 like Alex Jones,

00:37:22.500 there's no question

00:37:23.380 Alex Jones has said

00:37:24.300 some pretty out there

00:37:25.520 and crazy things

00:37:27.460 but when you have

00:37:28.860 an undue reverence

00:37:30.480 for just the rational,

00:37:32.700 just the material,

00:37:34.000 and that's not to say

00:37:34.960 that the material

00:37:35.660 and rational

00:37:36.320 don't have their place

00:37:37.780 for they too

00:37:38.660 are a creation

00:37:39.820 of the one supreme creator.

00:37:41.980 It's what happens,

00:37:45.200 I believe,

00:37:46.300 is you end up

00:37:47.060 relegating

00:37:47.980 and negating

00:37:49.220 the mystical.

00:37:50.660 You end up,

00:37:51.300 in fact,

00:37:51.920 if you, I suppose,

00:37:53.280 replace the state

00:37:54.700 as the apex

00:37:56.320 of our hierarchies

00:37:58.460 of meaning,

00:37:59.600 then you can start

00:38:00.440 to replace

00:38:01.020 all of our values

00:38:02.260 one by one.

00:38:03.260 You can start

00:38:03.720 to remove ideas

00:38:04.580 that are sort of sacred,

00:38:07.000 ordinary,

00:38:08.400 presumed,

00:38:09.580 with new ideas.

00:38:11.080 And this state

00:38:12.300 of bewilderment

00:38:13.180 that I mentioned

00:38:13.840 at the beginning

00:38:14.620 is beneficial,

00:38:16.680 I suppose,

00:38:17.440 to power.

00:38:18.660 The powerful appear

00:38:20.180 to benefit from chaos.

00:38:22.480 The more there is chaos,

00:38:23.980 the more there is conflict,

00:38:25.100 the more there is bewilderment,

00:38:26.460 the easier it is

00:38:27.560 to assert authority.

00:38:29.580 And I suppose

00:38:30.080 the clearest example

00:38:31.220 we got of this,

00:38:32.240 or a clear example,

00:38:33.920 was during the pandemic period

00:38:35.700 where the convergence

00:38:37.100 of interest included,

00:38:38.860 well,

00:38:40.500 one would have to argue

00:38:41.860 pharmaceutical companies

00:38:43.480 appeared to benefit,

00:38:44.780 it would seem,

00:38:45.360 superficially.

00:38:46.840 Yes, superficially.

00:38:48.620 As measured by share price,

00:38:49.960 I think that's fair.

00:38:51.640 Governments appeared

00:38:52.540 to benefit

00:38:53.200 from the ability

00:38:54.080 to regulate.

00:38:55.420 It seemed that

00:38:56.100 there was an opportunity

00:38:57.000 to denigrate

00:38:58.720 and marginalise

00:39:00.900 and condemn people.

00:39:02.360 So I suppose

00:39:03.580 that's an example

00:39:04.700 of how crises

00:39:05.840 and chaos

00:39:06.900 benefits

00:39:08.180 powerful interests.

00:39:10.200 And I suppose

00:39:10.660 that if you have

00:39:11.280 that kind of polarity,

00:39:12.420 a kind of tension

00:39:13.140 where crisis

00:39:14.240 is beneficial

00:39:15.040 to the most powerful

00:39:16.040 interests in the world,

00:39:17.360 it's likely

00:39:18.080 that you will see

00:39:18.840 a perpetuation

00:39:19.840 of crisis,

00:39:21.180 endless crisis.

00:39:22.920 If the military-industrial complex

00:39:24.880 benefit from war,

00:39:25.960 you will have war.

00:39:26.940 If the pharmaceutical complex

00:39:28.820 benefit from ill health,

00:39:30.580 you will have

00:39:30.980 the perpetuation

00:39:31.800 of ill health.

00:39:32.720 If they require you

00:39:33.640 to eat food

00:39:34.260 that's bad for you

00:39:34.980 and take medicine

00:39:35.600 that's bad for you,

00:39:36.700 then you find

00:39:37.340 that this great,

00:39:38.300 wonderful nation

00:39:39.060 in which I'm a foreigner,

00:39:42.080 traipsing willy-nilly

00:39:43.360 back and forth

00:39:44.180 that border,

00:39:45.800 almost at will,

00:39:47.960 popping in them cages

00:39:49.180 that Obama built.

00:39:58.800 Then I suppose

00:40:00.140 that what you have

00:40:00.800 instead of this wonderful nation,

00:40:02.340 even though,

00:40:02.820 you know,

00:40:03.080 of course I'm still

00:40:03.760 somewhat agitated

00:40:04.720 by your victory

00:40:05.440 in the Revolutionary War,

00:40:07.620 instead of the greatest nation

00:40:09.740 in the world,

00:40:10.780 you have a kind of

00:40:11.360 conveyor belt

00:40:12.220 where we're sort of

00:40:12.940 turned into larvae

00:40:14.760 with parasitic tubes

00:40:16.940 attached to us,

00:40:17.860 one end being pumped

00:40:18.940 full of sugar

00:40:19.600 and seed oil,

00:40:20.760 the other end being

00:40:21.580 pumped full of

00:40:22.400 needless pharmaceuticals.

00:40:24.080 I mean,

00:40:31.360 as many amens

00:40:33.280 as I can muster to that,

00:40:35.360 but as a long-time

00:40:36.940 pizza enthusiast,

00:40:38.700 lifelong really,

00:40:40.420 I've lived on pizza

00:40:41.760 actually almost exclusively

00:40:42.900 for many, many years.

00:40:44.900 If you had,

00:40:45.780 I know it's disgusting,

00:40:46.760 I know,

00:40:47.020 but if you had said to me

00:40:48.560 that five years ago,

00:40:49.580 I'd be like,

00:40:50.000 you know,

00:40:50.400 come on,

00:40:50.880 there's nothing wrong

00:40:52.340 with wheat then,

00:40:52.960 settle down.

00:40:54.980 It does seem like

00:40:56.420 just in the past,

00:40:58.340 I don't know,

00:40:58.960 year,

00:40:59.560 less than,

00:41:00.280 months even,

00:41:01.360 that what you just said

00:41:03.460 is resonating with people,

00:41:04.900 even people like me,

00:41:06.240 the pizza enthusiasts,

00:41:07.040 who have never thought

00:41:07.900 about this at all.

00:41:09.420 That seems like

00:41:11.360 almost a movement

00:41:13.040 in America,

00:41:14.580 acknowledging that

00:41:15.780 we're incredibly unhealthy,

00:41:17.300 that unhealth is by design,

00:41:19.340 and that an unhealthy nation

00:41:20.800 can never really be free.

00:41:23.360 Do you feel that?

00:41:28.540 Yeah.

00:41:29.700 It's really good,

00:41:30.640 isn't it,

00:41:30.900 that you're doing

00:41:31.780 this live, Tucker?

00:41:33.080 One,

00:41:33.340 because of course,

00:41:34.300 when you're making

00:41:35.400 live appearances like this,

00:41:36.900 you are able to

00:41:38.100 be in the obvious presence

00:41:40.260 of your audience,

00:41:41.540 you're able to hear

00:41:42.440 immediately how people

00:41:43.660 respond to what you're saying,

00:41:45.400 and I hope that you

00:41:46.420 are able to a degree

00:41:47.700 to feel the tremendous

00:41:48.760 and warmth and love

00:41:49.800 that these people have for you.

00:41:53.500 Well, it's funny,

00:41:55.500 I,

00:41:56.100 as a wasp,

00:42:00.160 I'm never going to

00:42:00.660 acknowledge that,

00:42:01.540 but I feel the love

00:42:03.980 they have for each other,

00:42:05.420 which is way better

00:42:07.000 and very,

00:42:07.960 very obvious.

00:42:09.120 I reckon I could

00:42:09.880 embarrass you to death

00:42:10.940 up here.

00:42:11.360 Yes, you could,

00:42:12.300 just stop.

00:42:13.400 Embarrass you to death

00:42:14.440 in Phoenix,

00:42:15.220 and you'd have to rise

00:42:16.300 with metaphorical perfection

00:42:18.120 from your own ashes.

00:42:22.780 So,

00:42:23.380 this is a stressful time of year.

00:42:24.740 The kids are going back

00:42:25.320 to school,

00:42:25.800 vacation is over,

00:42:26.780 it's the height

00:42:27.300 of a presidential election season,

00:42:29.200 there's a lot going on,

00:42:30.720 you need a good night's sleep,

00:42:32.560 but it's never been

00:42:33.660 harder to get it.

00:42:35.180 So,

00:42:35.480 we were talking about this

00:42:35.980 in the office the other day

00:42:37.120 and a couple people

00:42:38.100 who work here

00:42:39.020 were raving about a product

00:42:40.780 called 8 Sleep.

00:42:43.080 Hmm,

00:42:44.100 and I wanted to know

00:42:44.980 more about it.

00:42:45.500 It turns out that temperature

00:42:46.760 has a lot to do with

00:42:48.080 whether or not you sleep

00:42:48.940 comfortably and wake up

00:42:50.020 feeling rested,

00:42:50.900 like you actually slept.

00:42:52.560 Now,

00:42:52.860 the makers of 8 Sleep Pod

00:42:54.100 figured out that if you

00:42:54.880 make a climate-controlled

00:42:55.900 mattress cover,

00:42:57.280 you can add to your

00:42:57.900 existing bed,

00:42:58.440 you don't have to buy

00:42:58.920 a new bed,

00:42:59.780 just the cover,

00:43:00.400 that it changes everything.

00:43:02.120 You get far fewer problems

00:43:03.940 with falling asleep

00:43:04.800 and staying asleep,

00:43:06.140 and so you feel rested

00:43:07.340 the next day.

00:43:08.360 Sleep actually has

00:43:09.060 its desired effect.

00:43:10.580 The 8 Sleep Pod

00:43:11.240 can be used to warm up

00:43:12.360 or cool off your bed,

00:43:14.760 and that matters

00:43:15.400 because temperatures

00:43:16.680 change seasonally.

00:43:17.840 We have climate change

00:43:18.660 in this country,

00:43:19.420 it's called winter,

00:43:20.900 and so you can feel

00:43:21.400 comfortable all night long.

00:43:22.640 It even adjusts

00:43:23.560 to different preferences

00:43:24.340 on either side of the bed,

00:43:26.000 which might be helpful

00:43:26.900 in your relationship

00:43:28.060 if you have one of those

00:43:29.260 relationships

00:43:30.060 where the different partners

00:43:31.560 want different temperatures,

00:43:32.500 and those are pretty common.

00:43:33.800 The 8 Sleep Pod

00:43:34.440 has been studied,

00:43:35.280 it's been proven

00:43:36.180 to improve people's sleep

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00:44:00.060 Yes, I mean,

00:44:08.520 I suppose,

00:44:09.180 look,

00:44:09.400 they took a terrible risk

00:44:10.540 with that internet

00:44:11.340 because the power

00:44:12.680 of the internet,

00:44:13.460 it grants immersive surveillance,

00:44:16.600 incredible opportunity

00:44:17.440 for censorship,

00:44:18.840 almost totalitarian control,

00:44:20.900 and that's plainly

00:44:22.120 the trajectory

00:44:23.440 that they prefer.

00:44:25.740 Totalitarianism

00:44:26.340 and technological feudalism

00:44:28.140 under the sort of

00:44:29.320 peculiar veil

00:44:30.620 of kindness

00:44:31.760 and protection.

00:44:33.200 In order to protect you,

00:44:34.380 we're going to have to control

00:44:35.340 and citizen manage you

00:44:36.960 within an inch

00:44:37.760 of your life.

00:44:38.840 It's so peculiar

00:44:40.840 that the characteristics

00:44:41.980 of our Lord,

00:44:43.000 omniscience,

00:44:44.100 omnipresence,

00:44:45.080 omnipotence,

00:44:45.860 are being emulated

00:44:46.980 by the state,

00:44:48.420 that they are emulating

00:44:49.960 the glory,

00:44:50.920 that they are replacing

00:44:51.920 the glory.

00:44:53.020 Truly, Luciferian,

00:44:54.820 thrice it is offered,

00:44:56.700 the Apostle John,

00:44:58.080 the Apostle Paul,

00:45:00.060 and our Lord and Saviour

00:45:01.380 all say that Satan

00:45:03.140 is in control of the world.

00:45:06.000 In material,

00:45:07.140 there is Satan,

00:45:08.540 and I suppose technology

00:45:10.480 is the advance of material.

00:45:12.720 We are in a sort of

00:45:14.160 a heightened moment,

00:45:15.460 I suspect.

00:45:16.940 But whilst the technology

00:45:18.640 I've referred to,

00:45:19.860 I suppose in particular

00:45:21.200 instantaneous communication

00:45:23.000 does grant the opportunity

00:45:24.380 for total surveillance,

00:45:25.940 it does also grant us

00:45:27.560 the ability to create

00:45:29.200 a movement

00:45:29.900 in which we can defy

00:45:32.060 in real time

00:45:33.400 their assertion

00:45:34.760 that we are governed

00:45:35.920 by bigotry or prejudice

00:45:37.740 because if there is,

00:45:40.380 and it seems among them

00:45:41.900 there is at least

00:45:42.840 this offering,

00:45:44.000 one message of Christianity

00:45:46.400 that I find deeply heartening,

00:45:48.120 of course,

00:45:48.560 the salvation,

00:45:49.340 the redemption,

00:45:50.040 the eternal life,

00:45:51.040 but the kindness,

00:45:53.000 the non-judgment,

00:45:54.440 the absolute radical love

00:45:56.440 of our Lord.

00:45:57.280 There is no tribunal

00:45:58.720 higher than his.

00:46:00.020 There is no judgment

00:46:01.460 that I am in a position

00:46:02.820 to offer.

00:46:03.680 We are all in the same category

00:46:05.820 together as fallen,

00:46:07.740 and perhaps in this moment

00:46:10.120 with this miracle

00:46:10.880 of communication

00:46:11.900 that could be used

00:46:12.700 for totalitarian control,

00:46:14.460 this message may spread,

00:46:16.320 the message of deep tolerance,

00:46:18.280 deep love,

00:46:19.120 and a great ability

00:46:20.140 to oppose

00:46:20.760 what I consider now

00:46:21.780 to be,

00:46:22.740 forgive the radical metaphor,

00:46:25.280 a satanic force.

00:46:28.080 Amen.

00:46:28.680 So how did,

00:46:31.400 I mean,

00:46:32.260 if you don't mind,

00:46:35.140 describe how you arrived

00:46:36.840 at what you just said,

00:46:38.120 and your,

00:46:38.800 I hate to use the word,

00:46:39.700 journey,

00:46:40.700 but tell us

00:46:41.720 what happened in your life.

00:46:43.680 Mental illness.

00:46:50.660 Good old fashioned.

00:46:51.920 Oh well,

00:46:54.540 I suppose,

00:46:55.600 Tucker,

00:46:56.100 what it must have been

00:46:57.540 is that I am,

00:46:59.520 this is my apostasy.

00:47:01.460 As a devotee of materialism,

00:47:03.480 as a devotee of culture,

00:47:05.060 being accepted

00:47:06.220 into the high cathedral

00:47:07.660 of Hollywood,

00:47:09.200 being granted access

00:47:10.420 to the deep privileges

00:47:12.140 of the hedonic,

00:47:13.840 of epicureanism,

00:47:15.260 of making pleasure

00:47:16.400 and privilege

00:47:17.120 and prestige

00:47:17.960 and all earthly things,

00:47:20.000 my God,

00:47:20.700 setting up false

00:47:21.740 idols in high altars,

00:47:24.240 worshipping them,

00:47:25.640 placing myself

00:47:26.880 at the centre

00:47:27.660 of the universe,

00:47:28.540 always worshipping myself,

00:47:30.760 placing myself

00:47:31.660 before him,

00:47:32.780 again and again

00:47:33.760 I have fallen,

00:47:34.840 again and again

00:47:35.560 I have been shown

00:47:36.420 that there is no answer there.

00:47:38.060 But the culture

00:47:38.820 is predicated

00:47:39.760 upon serving that impulse.

00:47:41.880 I was fortunate,

00:47:42.820 I suppose,

00:47:43.220 to have an extreme

00:47:44.060 example of it.

00:47:45.340 If you grow up

00:47:46.420 a tubby,

00:47:47.140 chubby,

00:47:47.740 ordinary little boy

00:47:48.940 in an ordinary

00:47:50.020 little town

00:47:50.820 like Grey's,

00:47:51.620 in Essex

00:47:52.120 in the UK

00:47:52.760 because we're

00:47:53.420 in Phoenix,

00:47:54.080 Arizona,

00:47:54.560 you may not

00:47:55.100 get the reference

00:47:55.820 so think

00:47:56.400 New Jersey.

00:48:00.960 If you are

00:48:02.020 plucked from

00:48:03.500 that obscurity

00:48:04.940 and granted

00:48:06.520 the opposite

00:48:07.300 of the shame

00:48:08.440 and ignominy

00:48:09.480 that it can be

00:48:10.480 to be a part

00:48:11.940 of a blue-collar

00:48:12.880 community,

00:48:13.720 to know

00:48:14.100 normalness

00:48:14.840 and to know

00:48:16.760 neglect

00:48:17.320 and suddenly

00:48:18.280 to know

00:48:18.840 the lure

00:48:19.660 and light

00:48:20.620 of attention

00:48:21.300 to suddenly

00:48:22.040 feel beautiful,

00:48:23.620 you can feel,

00:48:24.940 I felt,

00:48:26.200 elevated.

00:48:27.440 I suppose

00:48:28.340 temptation

00:48:29.120 is not

00:48:30.800 a trivial

00:48:31.400 thing,

00:48:32.600 otherwise

00:48:32.980 the battle

00:48:34.060 would be done.

00:48:35.420 But temptation,

00:48:36.760 I'm pretty weak

00:48:38.140 and I was

00:48:39.400 easily tempted

00:48:40.400 and easily

00:48:41.220 overwhelmed

00:48:41.860 and easily

00:48:42.880 conditioned

00:48:43.600 and I suppose

00:48:45.620 because of that,

00:48:46.660 because at my

00:48:47.420 heart I am

00:48:48.120 devout,

00:48:49.080 at my heart

00:48:49.740 I am devoted,

00:48:50.900 at my heart

00:48:51.600 like all of us

00:48:52.660 I suppose

00:48:53.260 I worship

00:48:54.400 and love,

00:48:55.620 I worshipped

00:48:56.380 and loved

00:48:57.000 false things

00:48:58.320 and if you have

00:48:59.520 as I have

00:49:00.520 a deep,

00:49:01.460 deep need

00:49:02.200 for God

00:49:02.800 and the culture

00:49:03.660 will not tell you

00:49:04.660 that you have

00:49:05.160 a deep,

00:49:05.880 deep need

00:49:06.600 for God

00:49:07.140 then alcohol

00:49:08.540 is your God,

00:49:09.480 heroin

00:49:09.820 is your God,

00:49:10.980 fame is your God,

00:49:11.860 money is your God,

00:49:12.780 sex is your God,

00:49:13.600 pornography is your God,

00:49:14.980 they will offer you

00:49:16.240 a vast pantheon

00:49:17.920 of deities

00:49:18.720 to prevent you

00:49:19.620 from seeing

00:49:20.180 the real light.

00:49:21.720 Blessedly,

00:49:22.500 as a drug addict

00:49:23.600 I had to get clean

00:49:25.240 and that's the beginning

00:49:26.360 of an awakening.

00:49:27.760 As I say,

00:49:28.340 I'm a very,

00:49:28.940 very slow learner.

00:49:30.720 I'm a fast talker

00:49:31.900 but I'm a slow learner.

00:49:35.680 Eventually,

00:49:36.660 through suffering,

00:49:38.260 through seeing

00:49:38.980 the fame and sex

00:49:40.280 that I had so

00:49:41.040 eagerly worshipped

00:49:42.200 turned and

00:49:42.900 metastasized

00:49:44.060 against me

00:49:45.020 by a machine

00:49:46.440 that loathes

00:49:48.240 those that speak

00:49:49.580 out against it,

00:49:51.320 I was forced

00:49:52.100 to recognize

00:49:52.980 my deep,

00:49:53.940 deep foolishness.

00:49:55.900 Thankfully,

00:49:56.780 at the same time

00:49:57.860 as I was enduring

00:49:59.300 deep,

00:50:00.260 vociferous

00:50:01.180 and vehement

00:50:01.920 attacks

00:50:02.600 from the culture

00:50:03.920 that I had once

00:50:05.040 worshipped

00:50:05.820 at the false altar of,

00:50:07.500 my little beautiful

00:50:09.060 son was born

00:50:10.120 and at 12 weeks old

00:50:11.520 he had heart surgery

00:50:13.240 at the famous

00:50:14.360 Great Ormond Street

00:50:15.460 Hospital.

00:50:16.900 When you hand

00:50:17.780 over your baby

00:50:18.800 to the anesthetists

00:50:21.560 knowing that he

00:50:22.340 will undergo

00:50:23.080 a 10-hour trial,

00:50:25.220 it looks like,

00:50:26.720 it feels deeply

00:50:28.040 biblical.

00:50:29.380 It felt like

00:50:30.340 some sort of slab

00:50:31.820 that he was being

00:50:32.460 handed over to.

00:50:33.620 The anesthetists

00:50:35.440 seem unusually large,

00:50:37.740 these sort of

00:50:38.220 giant and towering men

00:50:39.760 and to see a doctor

00:50:41.300 apply gas

00:50:42.520 to this 12-year-old

00:50:43.720 weak old

00:50:44.380 baby's face

00:50:45.800 and the tears

00:50:47.100 of my wife,

00:50:48.220 his mother,

00:50:49.420 to be in the room

00:50:50.680 downstairs

00:50:51.380 having left

00:50:52.220 my little son

00:50:53.420 and to see

00:50:54.940 the milk

00:50:55.800 come through

00:50:56.540 her top,

00:50:57.420 the milk

00:50:57.820 she could not feed

00:50:59.000 because as with adults,

00:51:00.940 before major surgery,

00:51:02.400 you can't feed

00:51:03.900 the infant.

00:51:05.880 I experience

00:51:07.300 such

00:51:08.320 powerlessness

00:51:10.500 and pain

00:51:12.280 but also

00:51:13.420 such a blessing

00:51:14.400 to be shown

00:51:15.700 that amidst

00:51:16.540 the tumult

00:51:17.340 and maelstrom

00:51:18.240 conducted by

00:51:19.380 the spilled

00:51:20.120 and nefarious ink

00:51:21.600 of the desperate

00:51:23.140 liars

00:51:23.960 that operate

00:51:24.640 in the central

00:51:25.620 institutions

00:51:26.560 of propaganda

00:51:27.420 and deceit

00:51:28.500 that once I was

00:51:29.680 happy to break

00:51:30.760 bread with

00:51:31.540 and feed

00:51:32.340 I was shown

00:51:33.920 a deeper truth

00:51:35.160 thankfully

00:51:36.020 by the excellence

00:51:37.200 of those surgeons

00:51:38.400 and by the grace

00:51:39.620 of our Lord God

00:51:41.500 and my personal

00:51:42.400 saviour

00:51:42.880 Jesus Christ

00:51:43.840 my son is well

00:51:45.440 I am a slow learner

00:51:54.980 so I was shown

00:51:57.120 I was shown

00:51:58.540 he showed me

00:51:59.720 this is

00:52:00.980 what is important

00:52:02.180 to you

00:52:02.680 these are your

00:52:03.960 former gods

00:52:04.940 what have your

00:52:05.660 former gods

00:52:06.460 done for you

00:52:07.420 where has it

00:52:08.260 brought you

00:52:08.840 to what has it

00:52:09.640 delivered you

00:52:10.400 and the reason

00:52:11.680 that I'm honoured

00:52:12.440 to be able to pray

00:52:13.460 with you

00:52:14.260 prior to coming

00:52:14.980 out here

00:52:15.560 is because

00:52:16.380 I need to

00:52:17.340 continually recognise

00:52:18.580 that

00:52:19.740 as the great

00:52:21.260 pastor Rick Warren

00:52:22.160 wrote the first

00:52:22.960 four words of his book

00:52:23.900 it's not about you

00:52:25.280 it's not about me

00:52:26.760 and I

00:52:27.680 I think you are

00:52:29.220 a great testimony

00:52:30.000 to that

00:52:30.580 because before

00:52:31.380 you never seem nervous

00:52:32.580 you never seem concerned

00:52:33.720 I see you

00:52:34.440 from time to time

00:52:35.400 I consider our friendship

00:52:36.480 to be a great privilege

00:52:37.600 and like

00:52:38.960 you know

00:52:39.860 maybe you're being

00:52:40.680 massacred in the media

00:52:42.080 Tucker Carlson

00:52:43.180 spoke to Putin

00:52:44.280 kill him

00:52:45.380 and I'm like

00:52:49.940 are you okay

00:52:50.400 and you're

00:52:50.640 yeah

00:52:51.100 ha ha ha

00:52:52.140 he's not taking it

00:53:04.840 seriously

00:53:05.560 Tucker Carlson

00:53:06.600 is not taking it

00:53:07.480 seriously

00:53:07.900 Tucker Carlson

00:53:08.600 is doing

00:53:09.080 what he believes in

00:53:10.720 Tucker Carlson

00:53:12.100 is not a racist

00:53:14.080 Tucker Carlson

00:53:15.080 does not believe

00:53:15.740 in dividing people

00:53:16.960 Tucker Carlson

00:53:17.680 doesn't believe

00:53:18.320 in supremacy

00:53:19.040 of any

00:53:19.600 individual race

00:53:21.480 or group

00:53:22.080 Tucker Carlson

00:53:23.200 is a patriotic

00:53:24.360 American

00:53:24.980 and

00:53:34.180 and it pains me

00:53:36.560 to say

00:53:36.980 this

00:53:37.240 as an Englishman

00:53:38.080 and as a redcoat

00:53:39.500 there's nothing

00:53:40.920 wrong with that

00:53:41.860 so

00:53:46.240 but then you took

00:53:49.260 well that's such a

00:53:50.040 wonderful description

00:53:51.660 of what happened

00:53:53.500 to you

00:53:53.920 but then you took

00:53:55.200 this amazing step

00:53:56.600 of talking about

00:53:58.280 it in public

00:53:58.960 and

00:54:01.380 I just feel like

00:54:02.500 there's nothing

00:54:03.100 more radical

00:54:03.900 I mean you

00:54:04.560 had a drug problem

00:54:05.540 you've talked about

00:54:06.240 it a million times

00:54:07.300 in public

00:54:07.780 there's no

00:54:08.520 sanction

00:54:10.320 against that

00:54:11.500 I used heroin

00:54:12.560 I'm now better

00:54:13.220 people are like

00:54:13.620 oh you go

00:54:14.140 Russell Brand

00:54:14.660 you get out there

00:54:16.000 you start throwing

00:54:16.580 the J word around

00:54:17.840 man

00:54:19.380 was that a tough

00:54:21.700 decision for you

00:54:22.760 well actually

00:54:24.540 I didn't really

00:54:25.160 make any decisions

00:54:26.180 I don't

00:54:26.900 I didn't make

00:54:27.500 a decision

00:54:27.880 to get baptized

00:54:28.560 I didn't make

00:54:29.500 a decision

00:54:30.100 to start

00:54:30.620 talking about

00:54:31.500 Christ

00:54:31.880 actually

00:54:32.300 I don't know

00:54:33.040 what the hell

00:54:33.560 I'm doing

00:54:34.020 I've been making

00:54:34.600 like if I'd have

00:54:35.380 thought about this

00:54:35.900 more carefully

00:54:36.460 I probably

00:54:37.020 would have

00:54:37.460 done things

00:54:37.880 differently

00:54:38.180 for a style

00:54:38.660 to put shoes

00:54:39.280 on

00:54:39.540 but in the

00:54:44.440 midst of the

00:54:44.880 crisis that I

00:54:45.760 described to you

00:54:46.920 the existential

00:54:47.800 crisis

00:54:48.540 and

00:54:49.060 like

00:54:50.900 I know

00:54:52.040 Christians

00:54:52.720 it was a lot

00:54:53.460 of Christians

00:54:54.040 that appeared

00:54:55.620 appeared out

00:54:56.700 of the midst

00:54:57.240 now in my

00:54:57.880 country

00:54:58.200 I don't know

00:54:58.580 about here

00:54:59.040 they do their

00:54:59.780 level best

00:55:00.320 to make

00:55:00.660 Christianity

00:55:01.280 as absolutely

00:55:02.680 tedious as

00:55:03.740 possible

00:55:04.260 like to make

00:55:05.480 it like there's

00:55:05.920 nothing to see

00:55:06.960 here

00:55:07.360 there's nothing

00:55:08.140 of interest

00:55:08.900 you don't need

00:55:10.060 to pay any

00:55:10.640 attention

00:55:11.120 like but it's

00:55:12.900 quite amazing

00:55:13.720 that God came

00:55:14.940 to earth in the

00:55:15.860 form of a man

00:55:16.880 and was sacrificed

00:55:18.140 sacrificed himself

00:55:19.340 that we may be

00:55:20.780 redeemed

00:55:21.360 but somehow in

00:55:22.340 England they make

00:55:23.000 it sound rather

00:55:23.600 boring

00:55:24.220 so what

00:55:29.500 happened to me

00:55:30.480 I mean like

00:55:30.960 I just started

00:55:31.800 to I read

00:55:33.200 that book

00:55:33.820 the Pastor

00:55:34.600 Rick Warren

00:55:35.880 book Purpose

00:55:36.680 Driven Life

00:55:37.480 because I saw

00:55:38.220 him talking

00:55:38.720 about his son

00:55:39.420 taking his own

00:55:40.180 life and I

00:55:40.820 saw the way

00:55:41.280 that he spoke

00:55:41.920 about that

00:55:42.480 and how

00:55:42.920 unabashed

00:55:44.140 and unapologetic

00:55:45.360 he was and

00:55:46.100 how he was

00:55:46.640 just in the

00:55:47.160 pain of it

00:55:47.760 without any

00:55:48.660 sort of pride

00:55:49.520 or you know

00:55:51.120 like me because

00:55:51.900 I've been so

00:55:52.420 attuned to

00:55:53.140 ego

00:55:53.600 I imagined

00:55:54.680 that if you

00:55:55.280 were and this

00:55:55.760 I suppose is

00:55:56.420 how I would

00:55:56.880 have categorized

00:55:57.760 him a sort

00:55:58.160 of personal

00:55:58.720 development person

00:55:59.920 but that's of

00:56:00.540 course not what

00:56:01.100 a pastor is

00:56:01.880 because there is

00:56:02.820 a difference

00:56:03.220 between personal

00:56:03.900 development and

00:56:04.960 becoming a servant

00:56:05.980 and becoming a

00:56:06.700 servant of our

00:56:07.340 Lord

00:56:07.680 when he was

00:56:08.820 saying like

00:56:09.480 that his son

00:56:09.920 had taken his

00:56:10.480 own life

00:56:10.780 wow he doesn't

00:56:11.440 seem like sort

00:56:12.040 of embarrassed

00:56:12.660 all he feels

00:56:13.220 is sad

00:56:13.780 because you know

00:56:14.640 the loss of

00:56:15.140 your child

00:56:15.540 and I know

00:56:15.840 there will be

00:56:16.100 people in here

00:56:16.720 that have

00:56:16.940 experienced that

00:56:17.720 of course

00:56:18.320 there will be

00:56:18.780 people that

00:56:19.160 have lost

00:56:19.460 children

00:56:19.840 there will be

00:56:20.260 people that

00:56:20.660 have lost

00:56:20.960 people to

00:56:21.360 suicide

00:56:21.760 I'm sensitive

00:56:23.600 that

00:56:23.840 he just seemed

00:56:25.200 to feel the

00:56:25.900 sadness of it

00:56:26.740 now at that

00:56:27.240 time I was

00:56:28.300 feeling some

00:56:29.160 pretty profound

00:56:29.980 feelings

00:56:30.680 the person

00:56:33.440 has to die

00:56:34.320 the old man

00:56:35.560 has to die

00:56:36.400 the Adam

00:56:37.080 has to die

00:56:38.080 that Christ

00:56:38.920 may be reborn

00:56:39.960 there's an

00:56:40.980 argument indeed

00:56:42.040 for saying

00:56:42.820 that the

00:56:43.480 if we don't

00:56:45.460 make our body

00:56:46.520 a temple

00:56:47.020 for his dwelling

00:56:47.980 it will be

00:56:48.980 a dwelling

00:56:49.480 place

00:56:50.180 for the enemy

00:56:51.380 and

00:56:53.300 I think

00:56:57.980 you know

00:56:59.200 as a drug

00:56:59.700 addict

00:56:59.920 you are

00:57:00.360 trying to

00:57:00.920 synthesize

00:57:01.880 spiritual

00:57:02.520 experiences

00:57:03.340 you are

00:57:04.020 trying to

00:57:04.620 find meaning

00:57:05.700 and connection

00:57:06.480 and purpose

00:57:07.660 you're trying

00:57:08.240 to transcend

00:57:08.960 self

00:57:09.860 quick talker

00:57:12.080 slow learner

00:57:12.920 I read

00:57:15.960 that book

00:57:16.680 Bear Grylls

00:57:17.940 of all people

00:57:18.700 you know

00:57:19.000 Bear Grylls

00:57:19.800 like running

00:57:20.380 wild with

00:57:21.100 Bear Grylls

00:57:22.060 Bear Grylls

00:57:23.120 sort of like

00:57:23.780 appeared in

00:57:24.780 my existence

00:57:25.540 coming out

00:57:26.800 of the shadows

00:57:27.540 and like

00:57:28.440 said

00:57:28.680 would you like

00:57:30.260 me to come

00:57:30.740 and baptize

00:57:31.580 you on the

00:57:32.080 28th of April

00:57:33.120 and I sort

00:57:33.780 of went

00:57:34.040 yeah

00:57:34.840 but I meant

00:57:35.480 no

00:57:36.100 I would not

00:57:39.380 like you

00:57:39.960 to come

00:57:40.280 you know

00:57:41.200 you sort of

00:57:41.580 make plans

00:57:42.220 I'm not very

00:57:42.720 good at

00:57:43.120 temporal reality

00:57:44.500 I'm always

00:57:44.940 agreeing to

00:57:45.460 things

00:57:45.860 on the basis

00:57:46.760 that those

00:57:47.200 things will

00:57:47.580 probably never

00:57:48.340 actually happen

00:57:49.340 that will

00:57:51.260 never actually

00:57:51.900 happen

00:57:52.280 and if it

00:57:52.840 does

00:57:53.200 by the time

00:57:53.820 we get there

00:57:54.300 we'll have

00:57:54.620 thought of an

00:57:55.000 excuse to

00:57:55.600 get out of

00:57:56.100 it

00:57:56.300 and oddly

00:57:58.240 I was in

00:57:58.800 Florida

00:57:59.660 Tucker

00:58:00.700 near where

00:58:01.940 I visited

00:58:02.440 you previously

00:58:03.580 and like

00:58:04.860 I'd made

00:58:05.300 this tentative

00:58:06.100 plan to be

00:58:06.840 baptized by

00:58:07.800 SAS

00:58:08.600 elite soldier

00:58:09.980 Bear Grylls

00:58:10.800 which was

00:58:11.220 seemed odd

00:58:12.380 even as I

00:58:12.900 was mulling

00:58:13.400 it over

00:58:13.960 and it was

00:58:14.740 I was at

00:58:15.520 an Easter

00:58:16.020 ceremony

00:58:16.580 where three

00:58:17.220 churches

00:58:17.860 I guess

00:58:18.500 like a

00:58:18.820 Baptist

00:58:19.120 Methodist

00:58:19.880 and Catholic

00:58:20.540 church

00:58:21.040 were all

00:58:21.460 doing the

00:58:21.960 sermon

00:58:22.320 at dawn

00:58:22.960 at Easter

00:58:24.120 I was

00:58:24.540 standing right

00:58:25.000 next to you

00:58:25.460 yeah

00:58:26.360 and like

00:58:27.120 these sort

00:58:27.980 of kids

00:58:28.360 said

00:58:28.620 hey we've

00:58:29.200 been like

00:58:29.560 these sort

00:58:29.880 of gang

00:58:30.140 of kids

00:58:30.440 hey we're

00:58:30.780 from North

00:58:31.240 Carolina

00:58:31.760 hey we've

00:58:32.200 been following

00:58:32.600 your Christian

00:58:33.240 journey

00:58:33.700 hey you want

00:58:34.840 to get

00:58:35.060 baptized

00:58:35.620 and I was

00:58:36.100 like oh

00:58:36.440 yeah I'm

00:58:37.000 gonna get

00:58:37.340 baptized

00:58:37.760 I think

00:58:38.040 well we

00:58:38.580 can baptize

00:58:39.220 you

00:58:39.360 yeah we

00:58:39.720 baptized each

00:58:40.500 other

00:58:40.720 I baptized

00:58:41.340 her

00:58:41.880 she baptized

00:58:42.600 me

00:58:42.960 you're not

00:58:43.520 gonna gang

00:58:44.060 baptize

00:58:44.740 me

00:58:45.100 but I

00:58:57.800 could feel

00:58:58.300 it you

00:58:58.900 know

00:58:59.160 went back

00:59:01.440 home to

00:59:02.280 England and

00:59:02.900 sure enough

00:59:03.320 28th of

00:59:03.980 April did

00:59:04.620 happen that's

00:59:05.280 how calendars

00:59:06.060 work

00:59:06.700 came immediately

00:59:10.120 after the

00:59:10.720 27th of

00:59:11.500 April for

00:59:12.020 those of

00:59:12.440 you that

00:59:12.740 have a

00:59:13.240 nerdish

00:59:13.700 interest in

00:59:14.440 such matters

00:59:15.200 immediately

00:59:16.240 before the

00:59:17.040 29th right

00:59:18.240 there it

00:59:18.780 sat and

00:59:20.960 there came

00:59:21.420 Bear Grylls

00:59:22.320 and Bear

00:59:22.900 Grylls does

00:59:23.600 his sort of

00:59:24.020 that SAS

00:59:24.480 survival thing

00:59:25.420 he does that

00:59:26.020 like all the

00:59:26.740 time like

00:59:27.760 even when he's

00:59:28.520 in your house

00:59:29.160 he's sort of

00:59:29.960 surviving there

00:59:31.040 watch out for

00:59:34.120 that candle

00:59:34.900 he said at

00:59:35.540 one point

00:59:36.080 your fence

00:59:37.500 isn't high

00:59:38.120 enough

00:59:38.560 he bought

00:59:42.860 some hymns

00:59:43.360 I mean he's

00:59:43.720 excellent he

00:59:44.280 played the

00:59:44.640 piano he

00:59:45.360 bought hymns

00:59:46.460 sort of

00:59:47.240 amazing like I

00:59:48.240 was very

00:59:48.540 overwhelmed it's

00:59:49.060 very difficult

00:59:49.520 to have any

00:59:50.420 pretense about

00:59:51.060 being an

00:59:51.400 alpha male in

00:59:52.300 the company

00:59:52.740 of Bear

00:59:53.080 Grylls

00:59:53.520 I just you

00:59:56.740 know I just

00:59:57.020 let it go

00:59:57.560 you know

00:59:58.060 we're on a

00:59:59.440 rowboat we

01:00:00.100 went and

01:00:00.360 picked up a

01:00:00.880 pastor from

01:00:01.540 that to do

01:00:02.120 the baptism

01:00:03.020 and everything

01:00:03.500 I lived by

01:00:04.020 the river and

01:00:04.720 that was the

01:00:05.080 river that it

01:00:05.500 was going to

01:00:05.800 get done in

01:00:06.380 and it's the

01:00:06.760 river Thames

01:00:07.260 and of course

01:00:07.800 the Thames

01:00:08.320 water municipalities

01:00:09.540 been sold off

01:00:10.860 to multinational

01:00:11.860 conglomerations

01:00:13.000 who because it's

01:00:13.900 more profitable

01:00:14.660 to dump sewage

01:00:16.040 in the beautiful

01:00:16.900 and sacred

01:00:17.620 river Thames

01:00:18.680 rather than

01:00:19.440 provide a sewage

01:00:20.480 plant do

01:00:21.340 dump sewage

01:00:22.440 into the Thames

01:00:23.660 companies that are

01:00:24.460 in sort of like

01:00:24.920 Hong Kong and

01:00:25.780 Canada

01:00:26.100 not to shame

01:00:26.760 those particular

01:00:27.400 nations but

01:00:28.080 probably the

01:00:29.060 water municipality

01:00:30.260 should be owned

01:00:31.200 by the community

01:00:32.020 of people

01:00:32.660 that live there

01:00:33.840 and shouldn't

01:00:34.400 be a for-profit

01:00:35.540 entity really

01:00:37.320 the people

01:00:37.960 should run

01:00:39.420 that not

01:00:40.100 corporately

01:00:41.060 it's just a

01:00:41.700 thing I've been

01:00:42.420 thinking about

01:00:43.220 anyway like

01:00:44.180 when I was

01:00:44.600 put in that

01:00:45.860 water you know

01:00:46.560 they baptised me

01:00:47.740 backwards and

01:00:48.640 I came out

01:00:49.980 there and I

01:00:50.660 sort of felt the

01:00:51.340 Holy Spirit

01:00:51.940 although you know

01:00:52.640 given what's in

01:00:53.340 that water it

01:00:53.840 could have been

01:00:54.180 E. coli

01:00:54.820 something was

01:00:55.920 something was

01:00:57.200 happening

01:00:57.580 so there was

01:01:02.060 never a

01:01:03.000 deliberate

01:01:04.600 choice

01:01:05.560 Christ chooses

01:01:07.960 us

01:01:08.840 we have been

01:01:10.200 chosen

01:01:10.740 I wish I had

01:01:12.980 known earlier

01:01:13.620 I wish I hadn't

01:01:15.160 thought that I

01:01:16.280 was too clever

01:01:17.060 for the religion

01:01:17.860 of my

01:01:18.680 grandmothers

01:01:19.540 I thought

01:01:20.740 that I was

01:01:21.760 too smart

01:01:22.520 I thought

01:01:23.260 somehow that I

01:01:24.000 knew what was

01:01:24.800 in the Bible

01:01:25.340 even without

01:01:25.980 reading it

01:01:26.840 I thought

01:01:27.480 yeah I get

01:01:27.920 the idea

01:01:28.480 you know

01:01:28.980 angels

01:01:29.640 Jesus

01:01:30.260 reading it

01:01:31.880 it's blowing

01:01:33.060 my mind

01:01:33.640 on a daily

01:01:34.280 basis

01:01:34.720 I can't

01:01:36.180 believe the

01:01:36.660 profundity

01:01:37.320 the depth

01:01:37.860 the incredible

01:01:38.900 beauty

01:01:39.420 the deep

01:01:39.960 truth

01:01:40.340 available

01:01:40.820 to all of

01:01:42.060 us

01:01:42.180 and I know

01:01:42.540 there are

01:01:42.780 many ways

01:01:43.340 of receiving

01:01:44.260 the Lord's

01:01:45.520 truth

01:01:45.840 and the

01:01:46.360 Lord's

01:01:46.980 wisdom

01:01:47.400 but it's

01:01:48.500 transforming me

01:01:49.820 very quickly

01:01:50.580 I didn't

01:01:51.560 make a choice

01:01:52.420 Tucker

01:01:53.180 and I mentioned

01:01:54.080 the way that

01:01:54.680 you operate

01:01:55.420 as well

01:01:56.160 that there

01:01:56.880 is a

01:01:57.380 a kind

01:01:58.580 of surrender

01:01:59.200 I'm not

01:01:59.980 saying that

01:02:00.340 I am without

01:02:00.800 shame

01:02:01.180 I'm not

01:02:01.580 saying that

01:02:01.960 I am without

01:02:02.400 fear

01:02:02.740 I'm not

01:02:03.120 saying that

01:02:03.540 at points

01:02:03.880 I don't

01:02:04.180 feel compromised

01:02:04.940 and uncertain

01:02:06.020 I'm saying

01:02:06.680 that since

01:02:07.140 being baptised

01:02:08.300 since becoming

01:02:09.000 Christian

01:02:09.480 since surrendering

01:02:10.480 to him

01:02:11.060 I feel his

01:02:12.080 presence

01:02:12.500 continually

01:02:13.140 I feel it

01:02:13.760 now

01:02:14.000 I feel it

01:02:14.460 in this

01:02:14.800 moment

01:02:15.240 and

01:02:16.040 I feel

01:02:17.580 free

01:02:18.560 and like

01:02:19.480 you said

01:02:20.260 I mean I'm

01:02:23.020 studying that

01:02:23.540 Bible

01:02:23.860 there's

01:02:25.000 nowhere

01:02:25.280 where he

01:02:25.620 says

01:02:26.040 specifically

01:02:27.280 Russell I

01:02:29.140 want you

01:02:29.380 to overthrow

01:02:29.780 the government

01:02:30.320 it's not in

01:02:31.220 there specifically

01:02:32.020 keep reading

01:02:36.580 Revelations 13

01:02:40.440 there's some

01:02:41.180 strong suggestions

01:02:42.280 but Romans 13

01:02:44.040 he seems to be

01:02:45.520 saying you know

01:02:46.360 I don't know

01:02:47.000 we're gonna have

01:02:47.460 to work it out

01:02:48.180 probably by the

01:02:49.240 end of the

01:02:49.660 evening

01:02:49.940 the pressure's

01:02:51.360 increasing

01:02:51.940 so what

01:02:54.420 I had a

01:02:55.000 similar experience

01:02:55.920 where I thought

01:02:56.360 I knew it was

01:02:56.820 in it

01:02:57.060 I had no idea

01:02:57.680 I'd never read

01:02:58.200 it

01:02:58.420 and I read

01:02:59.860 it

01:03:00.020 took me a

01:03:00.540 while

01:03:00.780 18 months

01:03:01.700 but

01:03:02.080 I was

01:03:04.300 shocked

01:03:04.780 completely

01:03:05.540 shocked

01:03:06.060 by what

01:03:06.440 was in

01:03:06.720 there

01:03:06.880 are you

01:03:07.360 yeah

01:03:08.740 as Acts

01:03:09.600 first of all

01:03:10.360 because of

01:03:10.840 course the

01:03:11.200 Gospels are

01:03:12.040 incredible

01:03:12.520 the accounts

01:03:13.340 of our

01:03:14.840 Lord and

01:03:15.420 Saviour

01:03:15.940 but in

01:03:16.740 particular

01:03:17.240 Acts

01:03:17.840 because he

01:03:18.700 is past

01:03:19.420 and the

01:03:20.360 kind of

01:03:21.060 fervor

01:03:22.180 fibrility

01:03:23.080 evangelism

01:03:24.220 and zeal

01:03:25.100 of the

01:03:25.900 apostles

01:03:26.380 like the

01:03:27.380 absolute

01:03:27.940 belief

01:03:28.540 like early

01:03:29.460 on with

01:03:30.420 Stephen

01:03:31.120 being torn

01:03:31.920 apart

01:03:32.240 and just

01:03:32.460 going

01:03:32.600 I'm off

01:03:34.460 and Paul

01:03:36.140 I thought

01:03:37.340 that Paul

01:03:37.900 was the

01:03:39.060 first among

01:03:39.840 conformists

01:03:40.700 but there

01:03:41.340 are trials

01:03:42.380 and shipwrecks

01:03:43.820 and jailbreaks

01:03:45.160 it's incredible

01:03:46.520 and marvellous

01:03:48.240 see Paul

01:03:49.180 put a real

01:03:49.980 shift in

01:03:50.640 in establishing

01:03:51.340 Christianity

01:03:52.160 this just

01:03:52.860 in

01:03:53.120 he was in

01:03:56.080 jail so

01:03:56.840 many times

01:03:57.500 and it

01:03:57.800 never bothered

01:03:58.640 him

01:03:59.040 he didn't

01:04:00.040 mind did he

01:04:00.580 like on that

01:04:01.000 shipwreck

01:04:01.340 he's all

01:04:01.580 chained up

01:04:02.120 on a ship

01:04:02.620 there's going

01:04:03.080 to be a

01:04:03.400 shipwreck

01:04:03.760 he seems

01:04:04.120 perfectly

01:04:04.520 relaxed

01:04:04.940 about it

01:04:05.480 better write

01:04:07.300 another letter

01:04:08.060 seems to have

01:04:08.720 been his

01:04:08.980 primary response

01:04:09.820 so how

01:04:14.720 different was

01:04:15.700 it from

01:04:16.040 what you

01:04:16.340 thought it

01:04:16.680 was going

01:04:17.140 to be

01:04:17.440 well look

01:04:18.580 in my

01:04:19.220 country we

01:04:19.720 have a

01:04:19.920 thing called

01:04:20.200 the Church

01:04:20.640 of England

01:04:21.300 and the

01:04:21.940 problem is

01:04:22.580 in the

01:04:22.980 name

01:04:23.440 is that

01:04:27.360 they're not

01:04:27.760 a hierarchical

01:04:28.720 implication

01:04:29.400 in the name

01:04:30.320 Church of

01:04:31.200 England

01:04:31.780 there are

01:04:34.680 these

01:04:35.120 some of the

01:04:35.600 people in

01:04:35.900 the Church

01:04:36.180 of England

01:04:36.460 have been

01:04:36.880 sort of

01:04:37.160 instrumental in

01:04:37.860 educating me

01:04:38.520 in my very

01:04:39.080 nascent early

01:04:39.840 new journey

01:04:40.440 into Christianity

01:04:41.420 and it's

01:04:41.900 certainly not

01:04:42.280 a criticism

01:04:43.200 of those

01:04:43.820 wonderful

01:04:44.200 ministers

01:04:45.060 and teachers

01:04:45.900 and men

01:04:46.300 and women

01:04:46.720 of faith

01:04:47.400 but secularism

01:04:50.620 is all well

01:04:51.160 and good

01:04:51.760 as long as

01:04:53.380 the state

01:04:54.080 doesn't behave

01:04:54.820 like a god

01:04:55.680 as long as

01:04:56.720 the state

01:04:57.200 doesn't give

01:04:57.840 you some

01:04:58.340 new edicts

01:04:59.700 as long as

01:05:00.240 the state

01:05:00.680 doesn't set

01:05:01.260 up some

01:05:01.600 new apostles

01:05:02.360 and doesn't

01:05:04.120 deliver a

01:05:05.620 new liturgy

01:05:06.640 that seems

01:05:07.440 to be designed

01:05:08.200 to inhibit

01:05:08.880 and prohibit

01:05:09.880 the freedom

01:05:10.640 of the individual

01:05:11.380 and to

01:05:12.000 diminish

01:05:12.380 and dilute

01:05:13.520 the sanctity

01:05:14.660 of the individual

01:05:15.800 and the beautiful

01:05:16.800 space that can

01:05:17.760 exist between

01:05:18.680 us when we

01:05:19.320 live in good

01:05:20.000 faith with

01:05:20.620 one another

01:05:21.240 true diversity

01:05:22.800 is a glory

01:05:24.240 but superficial

01:05:25.500 diversity

01:05:26.740 to mask

01:05:28.320 homogeneity

01:05:29.520 I feel

01:05:31.100 when there's

01:05:32.000 homogeneity

01:05:32.940 of one idea

01:05:34.300 one globalist

01:05:35.560 idea

01:05:36.160 centralising

01:05:37.360 power

01:05:37.920 by their fruits

01:05:39.040 shall you

01:05:39.640 know them

01:05:40.100 in the

01:05:40.840 pandemic

01:05:41.320 period

01:05:41.980 wealth

01:05:42.500 transfer

01:05:43.080 guess which

01:05:43.760 direction

01:05:44.280 it was

01:05:45.200 that way

01:05:45.840 it wasn't

01:05:47.160 the

01:05:47.380 diversification

01:05:50.260 of wealth

01:05:50.880 it wasn't

01:05:51.280 the empowerment

01:05:51.940 of people

01:05:52.440 it was the

01:05:52.820 centralisation

01:05:53.540 of authority

01:05:54.220 it was the

01:05:54.940 centralisation

01:05:55.600 of wealth

01:05:56.080 it was the

01:05:56.460 centralisation

01:05:57.280 of power

01:05:58.660 I suppose

01:06:00.300 what

01:06:01.180 doesn't it

01:06:02.840 seem that there

01:06:03.280 is some sort

01:06:03.800 of inert

01:06:04.180 paradigm

01:06:04.680 that continually

01:06:05.480 tries to

01:06:06.140 reassert itself

01:06:07.000 that revolutions

01:06:07.720 take place

01:06:08.500 and then curiously

01:06:09.360 after the revolutions

01:06:10.560 power structures

01:06:11.840 somehow superimpose

01:06:13.980 themselves

01:06:14.380 once more

01:06:15.700 on the

01:06:16.320 amorphous

01:06:17.040 super state

01:06:18.260 of potentiality

01:06:19.380 that exists

01:06:20.100 in the beginning

01:06:21.060 there was the word

01:06:21.960 and the word

01:06:22.420 was God

01:06:22.860 and the word

01:06:23.260 was with God

01:06:24.000 or as they might

01:06:25.220 say in quantum

01:06:25.800 physics

01:06:26.160 a super state

01:06:26.820 of potentialities

01:06:27.880 that could become

01:06:28.500 anything

01:06:28.880 that can be

01:06:29.700 spoken into

01:06:30.500 being by us

01:06:31.240 that through

01:06:31.840 faith can be

01:06:32.540 brought into

01:06:32.980 being by us

01:06:33.840 that requires

01:06:34.900 God does not

01:06:35.760 require us

01:06:36.340 the trilogy

01:06:36.980 the trinity

01:06:38.260 it's not a movie

01:06:39.300 franchise

01:06:39.940 I've only been

01:06:42.140 Christian

01:06:43.580 about three months

01:06:44.500 I've only been

01:06:47.920 Christian ten minutes

01:06:48.900 I had to take

01:06:49.440 someone down

01:06:49.880 to the hospital

01:06:50.200 I was doing

01:06:50.660 Christianity

01:06:51.260 within no time

01:06:52.100 at all

01:06:52.500 I've been

01:06:53.380 hitting that

01:06:53.780 Christianity

01:06:54.360 so hard

01:06:55.100 it's exhausting

01:06:56.280 thankfully

01:06:58.720 there's eternity

01:06:59.480 for me

01:07:00.200 to recover

01:07:01.020 what does

01:07:03.840 your friend

01:07:04.980 say

01:07:05.500 my friends

01:07:08.540 say

01:07:08.900 well

01:07:09.520 hmm

01:07:11.520 you know

01:07:14.760 like

01:07:15.220 even though

01:07:16.300 I'm sort of

01:07:16.840 here because

01:07:17.420 I feel that

01:07:18.000 the circumstances

01:07:19.040 permit it

01:07:19.840 and you've been

01:07:20.240 kind enough

01:07:20.760 to ask me

01:07:21.380 here

01:07:21.620 and people

01:07:22.060 are kind

01:07:22.440 enough

01:07:22.700 to listen

01:07:23.200 I'm

01:07:24.420 proselytizing

01:07:25.980 and talking

01:07:26.800 but like

01:07:27.960 I don't like

01:07:29.680 to impose

01:07:30.260 myself

01:07:30.820 you know

01:07:31.220 like

01:07:31.500 if people

01:07:32.240 don't ask

01:07:33.020 me

01:07:33.180 I won't

01:07:34.060 like

01:07:34.860 start

01:07:35.340 hitting them

01:07:36.800 up

01:07:37.020 with the

01:07:37.360 Christianity

01:07:37.920 like waiting

01:07:38.960 for a moment

01:07:39.400 where they seem

01:07:39.960 sort of a bit

01:07:40.460 weepy and

01:07:41.040 vulnerable

01:07:41.420 and sort of

01:07:42.240 lean in

01:07:42.660 and go

01:07:42.960 have you

01:07:43.380 considered

01:07:43.740 Jesus

01:07:44.320 but if they

01:07:49.220 ask

01:07:49.700 they're

01:07:50.280 getting it

01:07:51.220 my wife

01:07:58.840 cradle

01:07:59.580 catholic

01:08:00.220 my wife's

01:08:01.780 father

01:08:02.200 very

01:08:02.960 devout

01:08:03.900 catholic

01:08:04.960 my mate

01:08:06.780 most of my

01:08:07.380 mates are

01:08:07.900 people in

01:08:08.600 recovery

01:08:09.280 and we have

01:08:10.300 to believe

01:08:10.620 in God

01:08:10.960 otherwise

01:08:11.240 we can't

01:08:11.980 cope

01:08:12.200 and we'll

01:08:12.480 kill

01:08:12.660 ourselves

01:08:13.120 we've

01:08:13.680 got no

01:08:13.940 choice

01:08:14.340 like

01:08:15.920 it's funny

01:08:17.800 it's funny

01:08:18.340 because we're

01:08:18.700 talking about

01:08:19.300 it more

01:08:19.600 it's becoming

01:08:20.180 more explicit

01:08:20.920 among us

01:08:21.620 and it's

01:08:21.900 lovely

01:08:22.220 to hear

01:08:22.960 working class

01:08:23.920 British men

01:08:24.740 getting into

01:08:25.760 Jesus

01:08:26.180 it's sort of

01:08:26.740 like

01:08:26.940 my mate

01:08:27.860 my mate

01:08:28.680 started watching

01:08:29.500 The Chosen

01:08:30.060 and he goes

01:08:30.440 I'll tell you

01:08:30.840 what

01:08:31.120 I only thought

01:08:31.900 we'd done

01:08:32.160 about 10

01:08:32.640 miracles

01:08:32.960 he'd done

01:08:33.420 10 in one

01:08:33.920 episode

01:08:34.280 do you have

01:08:34.540 a night

01:08:34.820 I don't know

01:08:37.120 what I'm

01:08:37.400 going to do

01:08:37.760 when they

01:08:38.040 nail him

01:08:38.380 up

01:08:38.520 I'm starting

01:08:38.960 to like

01:08:39.380 him

01:08:39.620 I gotta

01:08:45.600 say one

01:08:46.100 of the

01:08:46.360 highlights

01:08:46.840 of my

01:08:47.220 summer

01:08:47.420 maybe the

01:08:47.900 highlight

01:08:48.320 of my

01:08:48.620 summer

01:08:48.900 we were in

01:08:50.020 Milwaukee

01:08:50.400 last month

01:08:51.060 maybe I

01:08:51.580 shouldn't say

01:08:51.960 this but

01:08:52.320 we were in

01:08:52.720 Milwaukee

01:08:53.000 for the

01:08:53.260 Republican

01:08:53.480 Convention

01:08:53.860 and Russell

01:08:55.920 was there

01:08:56.720 and he

01:08:57.160 texts me

01:08:57.660 and he

01:08:57.840 goes do

01:08:58.100 you want

01:08:58.300 to go to

01:08:58.540 a meeting

01:08:58.920 I've been

01:08:59.880 sober 22

01:09:00.420 years but I

01:09:00.760 don't go to

01:09:01.020 any meetings

01:09:01.620 because I

01:09:02.100 always thought

01:09:02.360 it was weird

01:09:02.920 and like

01:09:03.400 you know

01:09:03.760 whatever

01:09:04.040 sure so we

01:09:06.260 go to this

01:09:06.660 meeting at

01:09:07.380 seven in the

01:09:08.020 morning in

01:09:08.740 Milwaukee

01:09:09.240 in a tough

01:09:10.080 in the hood

01:09:10.620 in Milwaukee

01:09:11.140 and we

01:09:12.860 walk in

01:09:13.520 and I

01:09:14.140 would say

01:09:14.460 at least

01:09:14.780 50%

01:09:15.360 of the

01:09:16.160 people there

01:09:16.740 the men

01:09:17.060 there were

01:09:17.520 from a

01:09:18.260 men's

01:09:18.580 shelter or

01:09:19.380 some post

01:09:20.220 prison

01:09:20.760 facility

01:09:21.540 and I

01:09:23.220 walk in

01:09:23.480 with Russell

01:09:23.880 they're like

01:09:24.180 Russell

01:09:24.600 what are you

01:09:25.380 doing man

01:09:26.060 he'd been

01:09:27.180 there like

01:09:27.720 I don't know

01:09:28.800 three times

01:09:29.340 or something

01:09:29.660 before I

01:09:30.060 got there

01:09:30.500 and watching

01:09:32.140 watching your

01:09:33.540 total transparency

01:09:34.680 with the

01:09:35.380 people there

01:09:36.020 watching your

01:09:37.820 love for them

01:09:38.620 their love

01:09:39.320 for you

01:09:39.780 it was just

01:09:40.440 like

01:09:40.720 it was so

01:09:41.580 it was so

01:09:42.700 wild

01:09:43.760 it was like

01:09:44.500 I've not

01:09:45.060 stopped thinking

01:09:45.620 about it

01:09:45.980 so we finish

01:09:46.780 and I'm coming

01:09:48.580 from the hotel

01:09:49.500 and I had

01:09:49.880 someone driving

01:09:50.420 me and I

01:09:50.980 said do you

01:09:52.360 want to ride

01:09:52.580 back to

01:09:53.100 downtown

01:09:53.580 or hotel

01:09:54.080 and he goes

01:09:54.580 oh no I'm

01:09:55.040 going with

01:09:55.480 this person

01:09:56.120 who's driving

01:09:57.100 me

01:09:57.480 this like

01:09:57.880 random person

01:09:58.480 from the

01:09:58.800 meeting

01:09:59.040 and Russell

01:09:59.940 gets in the

01:10:00.340 car and

01:10:00.980 I said where

01:10:01.760 are you going

01:10:01.980 he goes I

01:10:02.160 don't know

01:10:02.380 we're going

01:10:02.640 out to breakfast

01:10:03.080 or something

01:10:03.640 and I thought

01:10:05.060 I've never

01:10:05.560 met anyone

01:10:06.180 in my life

01:10:06.820 who's more

01:10:07.340 open

01:10:07.960 to other

01:10:08.840 people

01:10:08.980 this morning

01:10:09.480 I'm walking

01:10:09.940 through the

01:10:10.200 hotel lobby

01:10:10.820 I look

01:10:11.500 and there's

01:10:11.820 Russell in

01:10:12.280 the gift

01:10:12.620 shop

01:10:12.980 talking to

01:10:13.940 the gift

01:10:14.200 shop

01:10:14.420 owner

01:10:14.600 like this

01:10:15.100 and they're

01:10:15.340 like look

01:10:15.600 at each

01:10:15.780 other

01:10:15.900 it's really

01:10:16.140 intense

01:10:16.560 he's having

01:10:16.920 like the

01:10:17.140 world's deepest

01:10:17.580 conversation

01:10:18.060 with the

01:10:18.280 gift shop

01:10:18.660 owner

01:10:18.900 and I

01:10:21.400 think

01:10:21.720 there's

01:10:22.980 something

01:10:23.260 about that

01:10:24.020 that is

01:10:24.380 truly

01:10:24.760 Christian

01:10:25.240 seeing

01:10:26.700 every

01:10:27.380 person

01:10:27.900 as a

01:10:28.400 human

01:10:28.640 being

01:10:28.960 not as

01:10:29.340 a sum

01:10:29.620 total

01:10:29.920 of

01:10:30.180 whatever

01:10:30.460 badges

01:10:30.960 the

01:10:31.180 person

01:10:31.460 has

01:10:31.800 or

01:10:31.920 achievement

01:10:32.260 but seeing

01:10:33.260 the person

01:10:34.200 who God

01:10:35.300 created

01:10:35.540 the God

01:10:36.020 in the

01:10:36.280 other

01:10:36.460 person

01:10:36.940 and being

01:10:37.940 totally

01:10:38.780 open

01:10:39.300 always

01:10:39.880 to the

01:10:40.220 possibility

01:10:40.600 that God

01:10:40.940 is trying

01:10:41.180 to speak

01:10:41.680 to you

01:10:42.180 through

01:10:42.440 that other

01:10:42.740 person

01:10:43.100 I was

01:10:44.060 telling

01:10:44.320 the people

01:10:44.760 I was

01:10:44.940 in the

01:10:45.100 car

01:10:45.220 with

01:10:45.340 there

01:10:45.460 you'll

01:10:48.460 never

01:10:48.660 see

01:10:48.860 Russell

01:10:49.100 Brann

01:10:49.300 walk

01:10:49.640 down

01:10:49.900 the

01:10:50.080 street

01:10:50.340 with

01:10:50.520 his

01:10:50.660 head

01:10:50.860 down

01:10:51.160 focused

01:10:51.660 on

01:10:51.900 the

01:10:52.000 destination

01:10:52.520 he's

01:10:53.160 always

01:10:53.580 totally

01:10:54.600 alive

01:10:56.600 to the

01:10:56.880 possibility

01:10:57.220 that God

01:10:57.860 is going

01:10:58.040 to jump

01:10:58.540 out

01:10:58.780 in the

01:10:59.060 form

01:10:59.220 of

01:10:59.320 some

01:10:59.480 person

01:10:59.880 and give

01:11:00.440 him

01:11:00.540 a

01:11:00.660 message

01:11:01.040 he's

01:11:02.000 looking

01:11:02.180 into

01:11:02.340 the

01:11:02.480 eyes

01:11:02.780 of

01:11:02.920 every

01:11:03.240 single

01:11:03.560 person

01:11:03.860 he

01:11:04.000 passes

01:11:04.340 and

01:11:04.520 Russell

01:11:05.180 Brann

01:11:05.560 hey

01:11:06.040 how are

01:11:06.480 you

01:11:06.920 taken

01:11:07.580 by

01:11:07.760 the

01:11:07.900 arm

01:11:08.140 look

01:11:08.320 right

01:11:08.480 into

01:11:08.580 their

01:11:08.740 eyes

01:11:09.080 can

01:11:09.880 you

01:11:09.940 imagine

01:11:10.140 experiencing

01:11:10.840 life

01:11:11.280 that

01:11:11.480 deeply

01:11:15.340 well

01:11:23.220 this

01:11:23.400 is

01:11:23.540 a

01:11:23.680 lovely

01:11:23.940 holiday

01:11:24.360 I must

01:11:24.840 say

01:11:25.040 I'm

01:11:25.180 really

01:11:25.380 enjoying

01:11:25.740 this

01:11:26.040 I

01:11:26.360 probably

01:11:26.620 won't

01:11:26.900 sneak

01:11:27.220 back

01:11:27.480 across

01:11:27.800 that

01:11:28.000 border

01:11:28.320 I

01:11:30.860 might

01:11:31.060 stay

01:11:31.400 here

01:11:31.800 I

01:11:32.840 mean

01:11:33.060 listen

01:11:33.480 I

01:11:33.760 suppose

01:11:34.200 one

01:11:34.700 of the

01:11:34.940 great

01:11:35.120 opportunities

01:11:35.640 that we

01:11:36.020 are

01:11:36.180 afforded

01:11:36.740 by

01:11:37.060 bringing

01:11:37.700 our

01:11:38.000 faith

01:11:38.220 to the

01:11:38.560 forefront

01:11:38.880 of

01:11:39.160 this

01:11:39.340 conversation

01:11:39.860 is

01:11:40.120 the

01:11:40.280 possibility

01:11:40.720 of

01:11:41.340 deep

01:11:41.680 unity

01:11:42.120 and

01:11:42.860 of

01:11:43.140 forgiveness

01:11:43.520 because

01:11:43.860 an

01:11:44.080 election

01:11:44.440 by

01:11:44.780 its

01:11:44.980 nature

01:11:45.320 is a

01:11:45.700 time

01:11:45.960 of

01:11:46.120 conflict

01:11:46.580 and

01:11:46.780 competition

01:11:47.360 it

01:11:47.660 is

01:11:47.760 an

01:11:47.880 election

01:11:48.240 it

01:11:48.480 is

01:11:48.640 a

01:11:48.780 choice

01:11:49.080 it

01:11:49.240 is

01:11:49.420 a

01:11:49.620 decision

01:11:50.800 but

01:11:51.220 after

01:11:51.740 this

01:11:52.020 election

01:11:52.380 you

01:11:52.760 are

01:11:52.960 going

01:11:53.160 to

01:11:53.300 be

01:11:53.580 the

01:11:53.820 inheritors

01:11:54.420 of

01:11:54.700 the

01:11:55.020 new

01:11:55.500 United

01:11:55.980 States

01:11:56.620 of

01:11:56.820 America

01:11:57.280 and

01:11:57.600 my

01:11:57.960 hope

01:11:58.260 is

01:11:58.420 that

01:11:58.600 it

01:11:58.700 will

01:11:58.840 be

01:11:59.020 a

01:11:59.220 period

01:11:59.500 of

01:11:59.720 reconciliation

01:12:00.400 and

01:12:00.980 coming

01:12:01.300 together

01:12:01.760 and

01:12:02.440 I

01:12:02.860 suppose

01:12:03.280 in

01:12:03.480 particular

01:12:03.900 I

01:12:04.180 am

01:12:04.280 encouraged

01:12:04.780 by

01:12:05.040 the

01:12:05.340 joining

01:12:06.020 of

01:12:06.620 Trump's

01:12:08.660 Republican

01:12:09.300 MAGA

01:12:09.780 movement

01:12:10.300 by

01:12:11.020 Robert

01:12:11.460 Kennedy

01:12:11.980 because I've

01:12:21.100 known Bobby

01:12:21.660 Kennedy for a

01:12:22.360 while not as

01:12:22.760 long as you

01:12:23.220 of course

01:12:24.080 but I

01:12:25.000 believe Bobby

01:12:26.020 Kennedy to be a

01:12:26.680 very decent

01:12:27.400 and beautiful

01:12:28.260 and kind

01:12:29.200 man

01:12:29.760 and I

01:12:32.160 also note

01:12:33.120 that since he

01:12:34.540 has joined the

01:12:35.440 campaign he is

01:12:36.460 brought to the

01:12:37.160 forefront

01:12:37.820 and I'm

01:12:38.520 of course

01:12:39.420 not claiming

01:12:40.060 to be an

01:12:40.500 expert in

01:12:41.260 your politics

01:12:41.960 but I

01:12:42.380 noted that

01:12:43.040 he spoke

01:12:43.560 about

01:12:43.920 free speech

01:12:45.300 and the

01:12:46.000 integrity

01:12:46.380 of that

01:12:46.920 ending

01:12:48.420 war

01:12:49.140 and

01:12:49.800 children's

01:12:50.560 health

01:12:51.080 from which

01:12:57.060 I can only

01:12:58.540 conclude he

01:12:59.320 must have

01:12:59.660 become some

01:13:00.240 sort of

01:13:00.600 right-wing

01:13:01.020 fascist

01:13:01.760 I think

01:13:05.220 the children's

01:13:05.860 health was

01:13:06.220 the giveaway

01:13:06.700 you evil

01:13:10.280 man

01:13:10.800 Bobby

01:13:13.380 like you

01:13:14.300 seems like

01:13:15.360 one of those

01:13:15.840 people who

01:13:16.740 had to give

01:13:18.060 up a lot

01:13:18.640 to follow

01:13:19.420 his conscience

01:13:20.780 and

01:13:22.580 he does seem

01:13:24.000 liberated in a

01:13:24.780 way

01:13:25.020 he seems like

01:13:26.400 he's crossed

01:13:26.840 some line

01:13:27.460 where he had

01:13:28.200 to do the

01:13:28.580 most unpopular

01:13:29.180 thing

01:13:29.620 and in so

01:13:31.400 doing he

01:13:31.980 became kind

01:13:32.560 of a different

01:13:32.920 person

01:13:33.280 that's the

01:13:33.660 feeling I get

01:13:34.220 from I just

01:13:34.660 saw him last

01:13:35.040 week and I

01:13:35.440 was really

01:13:35.960 struck

01:13:36.760 he seems

01:13:37.640 different

01:13:38.020 he just

01:13:38.540 seems like

01:13:39.160 liberated

01:13:39.640 well yeah I

01:13:41.260 watched that

01:13:42.000 episode of

01:13:43.060 your show

01:13:43.800 and he was

01:13:44.740 so lucid

01:13:46.660 and articulate

01:13:47.900 when he spoke

01:13:48.820 about nature

01:13:49.780 and our

01:13:50.420 connection

01:13:51.100 to nature

01:13:52.420 and his

01:13:53.000 own love

01:13:53.540 of nature

01:13:54.260 even though

01:13:55.980 well formally

01:13:57.720 you know I

01:13:58.740 think you guys

01:13:59.280 like to hunt

01:13:59.920 stuff don't

01:14:00.540 you and I

01:14:01.220 know I do

01:14:01.780 not judge

01:14:02.260 Americans

01:14:02.720 for hunting

01:14:03.740 I've had

01:14:04.440 that argument

01:14:05.100 and I'm

01:14:05.540 never having

01:14:06.020 it again

01:14:06.600 well we

01:14:09.800 but to be

01:14:10.660 clear we

01:14:11.000 hunt and

01:14:11.440 release

01:14:11.920 you release

01:14:14.160 them

01:14:14.380 just kidding

01:14:15.520 you release

01:14:16.460 their wee

01:14:16.900 corpses

01:14:17.460 fly

01:14:20.380 oh

01:14:20.860 non-judgment

01:14:24.760 no judgment

01:14:26.360 no higher

01:14:26.960 tribunal

01:14:27.560 than him

01:14:28.120 no point

01:14:29.840 in arguing

01:14:30.300 I'm not

01:14:30.640 arguing with

01:14:31.080 anybody at

01:14:31.640 all

01:14:31.860 it's most

01:14:33.660 liberating

01:14:34.220 but yeah

01:14:34.600 to your

01:14:35.300 point

01:14:35.580 I think

01:14:36.180 that your

01:14:36.460 recent interview

01:14:37.340 with Bobby

01:14:38.460 your interview

01:14:39.400 with Cali

01:14:40.020 Means

01:14:40.320 has been

01:14:40.760 fantastic

01:14:41.440 Cali Means

01:14:42.040 his contribution

01:14:42.860 to the

01:14:43.900 conversation

01:14:44.480 about health

01:14:45.460 and nutrition

01:14:46.500 has been

01:14:47.160 invaluable

01:14:48.120 and transformative

01:14:48.960 Cali Means

01:14:49.300 is in this

01:14:49.940 room by the

01:14:50.560 way

01:14:50.780 should I

01:14:51.120 I don't

01:14:51.260 know

01:14:51.380 I don't

01:14:54.160 know where

01:14:54.400 he is

01:14:54.740 because I

01:14:55.000 don't have

01:14:55.200 my glasses

01:14:55.700 on but I

01:14:56.180 just ran

01:14:56.580 into him

01:14:56.960 and anyone

01:14:58.180 who doesn't

01:14:58.740 know about

01:14:59.400 Cali Means

01:15:00.080 and a sister

01:15:00.600 Casey Means

01:15:01.440 that is worth

01:15:02.760 a Google search

01:15:03.600 and their new

01:15:04.780 book is a

01:15:05.320 transformative

01:15:05.880 book and I

01:15:07.300 think it will

01:15:07.680 change the

01:15:08.080 country

01:15:08.400 wait a minute

01:15:08.980 there he is

01:15:09.420 he's drinking

01:15:10.500 Coca-Cola

01:15:11.440 full of

01:15:12.000 Cali

01:15:12.940 he's drinking

01:15:14.300 seed oils

01:15:15.280 right now

01:15:16.280 oh Cali

01:15:17.520 not another

01:15:19.400 hypocrite

01:15:20.140 yeah he's

01:15:24.920 pretty fantastic

01:15:25.760 isn't he

01:15:26.480 so I do

01:15:28.000 I suppose

01:15:28.740 you know

01:15:29.480 when I'm

01:15:29.800 doing my

01:15:30.540 own show

01:15:31.200 what I'm

01:15:31.860 continually

01:15:32.440 saying is

01:15:33.340 because I

01:15:33.760 still have

01:15:34.420 the sort

01:15:35.300 of remnants

01:15:36.700 a kind

01:15:37.380 of Pompeii

01:15:38.660 of former

01:15:39.820 of liberal

01:15:40.960 friends

01:15:41.800 the sort

01:15:42.500 of

01:15:42.780 sort of

01:15:43.900 frozen

01:15:44.660 there in

01:15:45.420 time

01:15:45.940 I sort

01:15:46.660 of

01:15:46.780 wait I'm

01:15:47.760 sorry

01:15:48.000 did you

01:15:48.600 say I

01:15:48.980 have a

01:15:49.340 Pompeii

01:15:50.300 of former

01:15:51.360 liberal

01:15:51.660 that's like

01:15:52.100 so brilliant

01:15:52.720 I just have

01:15:53.200 to stop

01:15:53.800 and acknowledge

01:15:54.400 how great

01:15:54.760 that is

01:15:55.220 that's

01:15:55.840 unbelievable

01:15:56.560 people frozen

01:15:57.820 in place

01:15:58.260 at the

01:15:58.460 dinner table

01:15:59.040 that is what

01:16:00.720 I was trying

01:16:01.080 to do

01:16:01.400 with language

01:16:02.000 it's so

01:16:02.560 good

01:16:03.000 so I'm

01:16:05.060 like how

01:16:05.420 can it

01:16:05.760 be

01:16:06.060 how can

01:16:06.600 you consider

01:16:07.520 this to be

01:16:08.020 an advocacy

01:16:08.540 for freedom

01:16:09.520 how can

01:16:10.040 the word

01:16:10.460 liberalism

01:16:11.080 a word

01:16:11.480 that's so

01:16:12.000 the etymology

01:16:13.300 of it

01:16:13.760 is so

01:16:14.180 interwoven

01:16:14.880 with freedom

01:16:15.680 how can

01:16:16.620 it mean

01:16:17.220 more and

01:16:18.080 more state

01:16:18.620 power

01:16:19.060 how can

01:16:19.540 it mean

01:16:19.980 more and

01:16:20.600 more advocacy

01:16:21.420 for war

01:16:22.060 how can

01:16:22.700 it mean

01:16:23.160 more and

01:16:23.660 more deification

01:16:24.420 of celebrity

01:16:25.520 and empty

01:16:26.500 vapid language

01:16:27.600 how can

01:16:28.240 it be

01:16:28.480 more and

01:16:28.940 more condemnation

01:16:29.900 of ordinary

01:16:30.380 people

01:16:30.880 more superciliousness

01:16:32.320 and haughtiness

01:16:33.420 and damnation

01:16:34.900 how can

01:16:35.660 it be

01:16:35.960 but only

01:16:36.740 the most

01:16:37.220 superficial nod

01:16:38.720 to kindness

01:16:39.320 and compassion

01:16:40.100 but a negation

01:16:41.840 of the deepest

01:16:42.600 compassion

01:16:43.280 and love

01:16:43.960 how can

01:16:44.920 it be

01:16:45.480 that's why

01:16:47.160 I came up

01:16:47.580 that Pompeii

01:16:48.280 thing

01:16:48.540 thank god

01:16:49.100 you appreciated

01:16:49.780 it

01:16:50.020 I loved it

01:16:51.020 so I guess

01:16:53.080 what I'm

01:16:53.500 I'm interested

01:16:54.300 in the Bobby

01:16:54.940 thing

01:16:55.180 I love Bobby

01:16:56.140 Kennedy

01:16:56.400 personally

01:16:57.000 I think

01:16:58.660 he's sincere

01:16:59.280 for real

01:17:00.300 and I think

01:17:00.780 his love of

01:17:01.360 nature

01:17:01.560 and his

01:17:01.840 description

01:17:02.240 of why

01:17:02.640 we love

01:17:03.020 nature

01:17:03.260 we love

01:17:03.580 nature

01:17:03.860 because

01:17:04.140 it's

01:17:04.460 the highest

01:17:05.140 expression

01:17:05.600 on the

01:17:05.920 planet

01:17:06.220 of beauty

01:17:08.480 because God

01:17:09.240 created it

01:17:09.820 and so

01:17:11.640 we should

01:17:11.920 preserve it

01:17:12.320 and we should

01:17:12.620 enjoy it

01:17:13.160 and the same

01:17:14.140 goes for animals

01:17:14.860 I feel that way

01:17:15.520 strongly

01:17:15.780 but it does

01:17:17.340 seem like

01:17:17.940 his entry

01:17:19.500 into

01:17:19.840 he could have

01:17:20.200 just dropped

01:17:20.560 out

01:17:20.960 you know

01:17:22.000 or he could

01:17:23.540 have endorsed

01:17:24.200 the party

01:17:24.780 that his

01:17:25.420 family has been

01:17:26.000 associated with

01:17:26.680 for over 100

01:17:27.180 years

01:17:27.560 but he didn't

01:17:28.300 they didn't

01:17:28.660 want him

01:17:28.960 by the way

01:17:29.320 but I don't

01:17:29.860 think he'd

01:17:30.100 do it anyway

01:17:30.460 it does

01:17:31.580 seem like

01:17:32.080 the moment

01:17:32.420 that you've

01:17:32.900 been talking

01:17:33.360 about since

01:17:33.820 I started

01:17:34.160 watching you

01:17:34.780 about this

01:17:35.880 kind of

01:17:36.200 convergence

01:17:36.800 of people

01:17:38.440 on the

01:17:38.780 basis

01:17:39.100 not of

01:17:39.920 party

01:17:40.260 identification

01:17:40.760 but the

01:17:41.240 basis

01:17:41.420 of what

01:17:41.620 they really

01:17:41.900 believe

01:17:42.340 shared values

01:17:44.600 shared interests

01:17:45.800 and that should

01:17:46.600 be the basis

01:17:47.120 of any movement

01:17:47.900 we're together

01:17:49.080 because we have

01:17:49.700 something real

01:17:50.480 in common

01:17:50.960 not something

01:17:51.460 fake

01:17:51.920 like a label

01:17:52.500 but something

01:17:53.100 real like

01:17:53.820 a temperament

01:17:54.980 a goal

01:17:55.880 a dream

01:17:56.980 an aspiration

01:17:57.620 and it does

01:17:58.820 seem like

01:17:59.120 that's happening

01:17:59.760 finally

01:18:00.600 maybe

01:18:01.100 I would

01:18:02.080 think so

01:18:02.700 because he's

01:18:03.400 an extraordinary

01:18:04.440 character

01:18:05.340 to incorporate

01:18:06.580 into that

01:18:08.480 movement

01:18:09.060 and I think

01:18:09.640 it will be

01:18:10.120 very difficult

01:18:10.940 to come up

01:18:12.560 with continual

01:18:15.340 condemnation

01:18:16.340 to such varied

01:18:17.800 characters

01:18:18.400 Trump

01:18:19.360 it's easy

01:18:20.220 for them

01:18:20.760 to condemn

01:18:21.540 him

01:18:21.880 indeed

01:18:22.400 as a

01:18:23.680 misogynist

01:18:24.460 or to

01:18:25.200 continue

01:18:25.800 the lawfare

01:18:26.640 Bobby Kennedy

01:18:27.720 oh he's a

01:18:28.540 kook

01:18:28.840 he's a

01:18:29.280 crackpot

01:18:29.820 he seems

01:18:30.320 to think

01:18:30.740 that the

01:18:31.320 pharmaceutical

01:18:31.960 industry

01:18:32.700 have some

01:18:33.560 interest

01:18:34.520 beyond your

01:18:35.400 wellness

01:18:35.860 and your

01:18:36.420 general health

01:18:37.680 the mad

01:18:38.940 conspiracy

01:18:39.720 theorist

01:18:40.500 like

01:18:41.360 what are they

01:18:42.220 going to

01:18:42.620 summons up

01:18:43.440 about Tulsi

01:18:44.540 Gabbard

01:18:45.240 I mean

01:18:45.500 as these

01:18:46.280 sort of

01:18:46.940 you know

01:18:47.580 what is it

01:18:48.000 going to be

01:18:48.280 they don't

01:18:48.620 like that

01:18:48.960 streak

01:18:49.460 in her

01:18:49.840 hair

01:18:50.080 that's the

01:18:52.540 sort of

01:18:52.800 thing a

01:18:53.100 super villain

01:18:53.680 would have

01:18:54.160 she's a

01:18:57.500 lady Zod

01:18:58.480 they may

01:18:59.300 say

01:18:59.820 general Zod

01:19:00.920 Superman 2

01:19:01.660 sorry it

01:19:02.260 was obscure

01:19:02.940 I'm just

01:19:04.700 wondering

01:19:05.260 how

01:19:06.000 the sort

01:19:07.440 of the

01:19:07.700 creeping

01:19:08.100 condemnation

01:19:09.160 and the

01:19:09.620 lack of

01:19:10.080 clarity

01:19:10.600 when I

01:19:11.520 watched

01:19:11.900 that

01:19:12.240 DNC

01:19:13.640 and it's

01:19:14.340 sort of

01:19:15.040 giddy

01:19:15.880 excitement

01:19:16.660 for celebrity

01:19:17.800 which by the

01:19:18.640 way when I

01:19:19.160 was the

01:19:19.560 recipient of

01:19:20.360 it I

01:19:20.560 would have

01:19:20.820 happily

01:19:21.560 sort of

01:19:22.320 guzzled

01:19:22.760 down like

01:19:23.380 a narcissist

01:19:23.980 nitwit

01:19:24.780 easier to

01:19:25.660 observe

01:19:26.080 its

01:19:26.280 ridiculousness

01:19:27.180 on the

01:19:27.480 outside

01:19:27.900 but

01:19:32.040 there was

01:19:33.140 a fellow

01:19:33.560 that came

01:19:34.280 out

01:19:34.520 you'll know

01:19:35.100 his name

01:19:35.540 but he was

01:19:35.860 a sort of

01:19:36.240 a somewhat

01:19:37.020 portly

01:19:37.760 billionaire

01:19:38.240 and he was

01:19:38.680 called something

01:19:39.000 like

01:19:39.180 Priestkrieg

01:19:40.140 or something

01:19:40.900 like that

01:19:41.440 and he

01:19:42.000 came out

01:19:42.480 to say

01:19:42.840 sort of

01:19:43.200 like

01:19:43.460 you know

01:19:44.060 Trump's

01:19:44.540 not a

01:19:44.880 billionaire

01:19:45.180 I'm a

01:19:45.680 better

01:19:45.900 billionaire

01:19:46.460 you know

01:19:47.340 he said

01:19:47.600 something

01:19:47.780 like that

01:19:48.340 but just

01:19:49.020 before

01:19:49.400 what a

01:19:49.980 message

01:19:50.540 just before

01:19:53.000 Bernie Sanders

01:19:53.680 had been

01:19:54.100 all billionaires

01:19:55.540 all billionaires

01:19:57.040 of every

01:19:57.820 human persuasion

01:19:59.140 should be

01:20:00.040 stopped

01:20:00.520 and then that

01:20:01.460 guy came out

01:20:02.080 and said

01:20:02.440 there's good

01:20:03.380 billionaires

01:20:03.860 and bad

01:20:04.300 billionaires

01:20:04.720 and I

01:20:04.880 thought

01:20:05.020 no they

01:20:05.740 don't have

01:20:06.240 any sort

01:20:07.000 of central

01:20:07.440 defining

01:20:08.040 argument

01:20:08.840 just the

01:20:09.680 desire to

01:20:10.440 win an

01:20:11.300 argument

01:20:11.620 and that's

01:20:12.080 what happens

01:20:12.560 I suppose

01:20:13.120 when politics

01:20:14.000 has been

01:20:14.440 captured

01:20:14.940 by the

01:20:15.840 donor class

01:20:16.660 and the

01:20:16.960 lobbyist

01:20:17.400 class

01:20:17.700 I wonder

01:20:18.240 when we

01:20:18.600 will see

01:20:18.980 donations

01:20:19.600 extracted

01:20:20.260 entirely

01:20:20.940 from

01:20:21.240 politics

01:20:21.700 the

01:20:22.080 profession

01:20:22.500 of

01:20:22.760 lobbying

01:20:23.180 entirely

01:20:24.040 removed

01:20:24.700 ameliorated

01:20:26.100 annihilated

01:20:27.340 radical

01:20:29.880 decentralization

01:20:31.380 radical

01:20:32.040 federalization

01:20:33.320 I wonder

01:20:34.620 when

01:20:35.080 because surely

01:20:36.180 at some

01:20:36.840 point

01:20:37.140 the possibility

01:20:37.840 would exist

01:20:38.740 to have

01:20:39.360 the experiment

01:20:39.980 that I

01:20:40.380 understand

01:20:40.920 your founding

01:20:41.960 fathers

01:20:42.460 were interested

01:20:43.300 in

01:20:43.620 unique

01:20:44.380 experiments

01:20:45.180 in

01:20:45.640 republicanism

01:20:46.680 or democracy

01:20:47.680 you can use

01:20:48.300 whatever term

01:20:48.760 don't offend

01:20:49.340 anybody

01:20:50.060 but you

01:20:50.740 could have

01:20:51.060 principalities

01:20:51.940 that were

01:20:52.600 responding

01:20:53.380 to the

01:20:53.980 will of

01:20:54.700 the people

01:20:55.280 and if

01:20:55.760 the people

01:20:56.160 are guided

01:20:56.560 by God

01:20:57.100 if all

01:20:57.400 of us

01:20:57.680 are attempting

01:20:58.880 on our

01:21:00.060 own

01:21:00.360 not on our

01:21:00.980 own

01:21:01.260 but through

01:21:02.380 ourselves

01:21:03.000 and through

01:21:03.500 our community

01:21:04.160 to connect

01:21:04.720 with God

01:21:05.360 then it's

01:21:06.120 more likely

01:21:06.860 that we

01:21:07.280 will create

01:21:07.800 communities

01:21:08.480 and states

01:21:09.480 and nations

01:21:10.240 and a

01:21:10.920 planet of

01:21:11.620 peace

01:21:11.980 and prosperity

01:21:12.760 from the

01:21:13.980 bottom up

01:21:14.480 not from

01:21:15.080 the top

01:21:15.540 down

01:21:16.180 not like

01:21:17.340 the imposition

01:21:18.200 of power

01:21:18.840 structures

01:21:19.340 you can see

01:21:20.060 its homogeneity

01:21:21.160 on every

01:21:22.420 matching

01:21:23.060 high street

01:21:23.960 or main

01:21:24.660 street

01:21:25.120 you can see

01:21:26.100 that it's

01:21:26.640 like it's

01:21:27.100 landed

01:21:27.520 on our

01:21:28.100 cultures

01:21:28.560 it's no

01:21:28.940 different

01:21:29.220 really

01:21:29.640 in my

01:21:30.460 country

01:21:30.920 we have

01:21:32.120 a similarly

01:21:33.020 globalist

01:21:34.120 leader

01:21:34.620 an authoritarian

01:21:35.760 who claims

01:21:37.300 to care

01:21:37.960 who wants

01:21:38.620 to protect

01:21:39.260 you

01:21:39.660 from you

01:21:40.580 yet another

01:21:41.600 Macron

01:21:42.480 Trudeau

01:21:43.900 Starmer

01:21:45.060 these

01:21:45.400 kind

01:21:45.720 of

01:21:45.860 characters

01:21:46.340 that

01:21:46.620 come

01:21:46.860 out

01:21:47.080 often

01:21:47.420 with

01:21:47.640 wonderful

01:21:48.100 haircuts

01:21:48.900 to tell

01:21:49.700 us

01:21:50.020 that they

01:21:50.640 care

01:21:51.080 for us

01:21:51.720 and they

01:21:52.220 care

01:21:52.460 for us

01:21:52.780 so much

01:21:53.340 that we

01:21:53.540 have to

01:21:53.780 remain

01:21:54.820 in our

01:21:55.420 homes

01:21:55.880 and cover

01:21:56.440 our mouths

01:21:57.180 and we

01:21:57.480 mustn't

01:21:57.780 travel

01:21:58.120 more than

01:21:58.500 15 minutes

01:21:59.400 and you

01:22:00.080 sort of

01:22:00.420 get the

01:22:00.840 sense

01:22:01.220 that some

01:22:01.600 dreadful

01:22:02.400 revelations

01:22:03.260 like Mark

01:22:04.200 of the Beast

01:22:04.760 is about to be

01:22:05.360 implanted under

01:22:06.340 your hand

01:22:06.800 all for your

01:22:07.780 safety of course

01:22:08.780 you understand

01:22:09.700 and I feel like

01:22:10.600 can't we just

01:22:11.240 I'll look after

01:22:12.180 myself

01:22:12.560 it's alright

01:22:13.120 I don't need

01:22:14.540 your continual

01:22:15.600 care

01:22:16.220 I don't want

01:22:17.500 to be

01:22:17.840 medicated

01:22:18.620 and cared

01:22:19.280 for

01:22:19.640 so aggressively

01:22:20.900 do you

01:22:25.020 I mean

01:22:25.400 last time I was

01:22:27.580 in the UK

01:22:28.360 my

01:22:31.020 the driver

01:22:31.680 actually on the

01:22:32.240 way to your

01:22:32.580 house was

01:22:33.380 going on

01:22:34.400 about

01:22:34.940 how much

01:22:35.780 he loved you

01:22:36.280 he couldn't

01:22:36.660 believe he was

01:22:37.320 driving me to

01:22:37.960 your house

01:22:38.440 he couldn't

01:22:39.040 believe it

01:22:39.400 he was so

01:22:40.060 thrilled

01:22:40.360 and I said

01:22:41.920 is Russell Brand

01:22:42.960 popular here

01:22:44.180 and he said

01:22:45.500 with people like

01:22:46.080 me

01:22:46.300 this was actually

01:22:47.040 from Bangladesh

01:22:47.920 this guy

01:22:48.360 and he said

01:22:49.120 people like me

01:22:50.000 he's popular

01:22:50.700 but everyone

01:22:52.160 in charge

01:22:52.520 hates him

01:22:52.960 and

01:22:54.480 that's not to

01:22:55.520 be true

01:22:55.880 I can see why

01:22:57.160 but do you

01:22:58.720 feel like

01:22:59.340 people you know

01:23:00.540 in your country

01:23:01.500 are waking up

01:23:02.340 to what you

01:23:02.980 just said

01:23:03.480 I think so

01:23:10.060 I wonder

01:23:11.720 in

01:23:12.160 the problem

01:23:13.340 is and I

01:23:13.760 suppose it's

01:23:14.260 something that

01:23:14.780 you've been

01:23:15.060 very articulate

01:23:15.840 about

01:23:16.560 is the

01:23:17.700 primary vessels

01:23:19.040 of communication

01:23:20.320 appear to be

01:23:21.580 controlled by a

01:23:22.520 particular class

01:23:23.520 of people

01:23:24.280 and that

01:23:25.620 class of people

01:23:26.540 are somewhat

01:23:27.140 reluctant

01:23:27.940 to unhook

01:23:29.160 themselves

01:23:29.840 from a rather

01:23:31.160 satisfying illusion

01:23:32.780 the illusion

01:23:34.040 that what

01:23:34.480 they're doing

01:23:34.960 is valuable

01:23:35.760 and important

01:23:37.220 and that

01:23:38.280 it's really

01:23:38.740 vital

01:23:39.460 that they

01:23:40.020 continue

01:23:40.680 to protect

01:23:42.680 whatever

01:23:44.400 target

01:23:45.620 whatever

01:23:46.400 nominated

01:23:47.160 group

01:23:47.700 it is

01:23:48.380 that's

01:23:48.640 convenient

01:23:49.120 for that

01:23:49.580 purpose

01:23:50.120 from what

01:23:50.940 they regard

01:23:51.520 to be

01:23:51.960 the sort

01:23:52.460 of spilled

01:23:53.320 and disgusting

01:23:54.380 mass of

01:23:55.200 ordinary people

01:23:56.400 and if

01:23:57.360 for a moment

01:23:58.380 they were

01:24:00.160 able to

01:24:00.760 consider

01:24:01.280 that

01:24:02.280 that's no

01:24:03.680 longer the

01:24:04.240 congregation

01:24:04.720 that's not

01:24:05.340 the world

01:24:05.700 they're dealing

01:24:06.340 with anymore

01:24:07.200 I suppose

01:24:08.960 there was

01:24:09.500 for a brief

01:24:10.300 moment

01:24:10.720 after the

01:24:11.360 cultural

01:24:11.860 and civil

01:24:12.380 rights

01:24:12.700 movements

01:24:13.240 of the

01:24:13.700 60s

01:24:14.200 a kind

01:24:14.580 of alliance

01:24:15.080 between

01:24:15.440 working people

01:24:16.340 and the

01:24:16.860 intelligentsia

01:24:17.700 and bourgeoisie

01:24:18.780 it's kind

01:24:19.680 of been

01:24:20.040 steadily

01:24:20.760 breaking down

01:24:22.280 there's no

01:24:22.700 question

01:24:23.280 that the

01:24:24.060 party of

01:24:24.680 ordinary

01:24:25.160 Americans

01:24:25.960 working

01:24:26.720 Americans

01:24:27.320 is the

01:24:28.240 republican

01:24:28.620 party

01:24:29.120 under

01:24:29.400 Donald

01:24:29.760 Trump

01:24:30.200 in my

01:24:31.300 country

01:24:31.720 there's a

01:24:32.140 sense of

01:24:32.600 vagrancy

01:24:33.500 the party

01:24:34.520 the party

01:24:34.940 in my

01:24:35.200 country

01:24:35.420 that's meant

01:24:35.860 to be

01:24:36.080 the party

01:24:36.540 of ordinary

01:24:37.440 British people

01:24:38.480 is supposed

01:24:39.180 to be

01:24:39.620 the Labour

01:24:40.120 Party

01:24:40.580 but they

01:24:41.360 hate

01:24:42.080 ordinary

01:24:43.040 British

01:24:43.500 people

01:24:44.040 you can

01:24:44.760 kind of

01:24:45.420 feel

01:24:46.060 the loathing

01:24:47.020 dripping

01:24:47.960 insidiously

01:24:49.020 from their

01:24:49.720 venomous

01:24:50.380 saliva

01:24:50.960 as they

01:24:51.720 angrily

01:24:52.460 orate

01:24:53.060 from their

01:24:53.600 secular

01:24:54.140 pulpits

01:24:54.880 condemning

01:24:55.960 you for

01:24:56.420 being you

01:24:57.380 annihilating

01:24:58.500 the culture

01:24:59.160 from underneath

01:25:00.020 annihilating

01:25:01.080 the culture

01:25:01.660 from on top

01:25:02.620 and wondering

01:25:03.380 why people

01:25:03.920 feel bewildered

01:25:04.960 desacralising

01:25:06.340 nature

01:25:06.840 desacralising

01:25:08.160 the land

01:25:08.740 putting a

01:25:09.460 screen in

01:25:10.120 front of

01:25:10.440 every face

01:25:11.020 filling every

01:25:11.800 belly with

01:25:12.800 sugar

01:25:13.280 and then

01:25:13.880 wondering why

01:25:14.620 people are

01:25:15.260 weary

01:25:15.780 and discontent

01:25:17.040 I feel

01:25:18.160 that once

01:25:19.240 that class

01:25:19.980 of people

01:25:20.560 once and

01:25:21.240 for all

01:25:21.720 lose the

01:25:22.720 battle of

01:25:23.160 communication

01:25:23.740 which seems

01:25:24.700 to be

01:25:25.220 happening

01:25:26.100 unless

01:25:26.840 censorship

01:25:27.760 laws

01:25:28.260 radically

01:25:28.700 increase

01:25:29.140 and it

01:25:29.420 seems that

01:25:29.760 that's a

01:25:30.140 real possibility

01:25:30.940 because platforms

01:25:32.160 like X

01:25:32.800 are banned

01:25:33.300 in Brazil

01:25:33.940 so's Rumble

01:25:34.840 the platform

01:25:35.520 that I'm

01:25:36.480 on

01:25:36.740 there is

01:25:38.180 an obvious

01:25:38.960 attempt

01:25:39.540 to legitimise

01:25:40.740 censorship

01:25:41.300 not to

01:25:42.220 protect us

01:25:42.960 but to

01:25:43.660 control us

01:25:44.740 they have

01:25:45.180 no interest

01:25:46.140 in protecting

01:25:47.580 anybody

01:25:48.640 and you can

01:25:49.460 sort of see

01:25:49.920 how protect

01:25:50.520 any parent

01:25:51.420 knows

01:25:51.980 that protection

01:25:53.180 and control

01:25:54.420 are on a

01:25:55.340 continuum

01:25:55.920 and that's

01:25:56.960 maybe fine

01:25:57.860 when you're

01:25:58.200 an adult

01:25:58.820 looking after

01:25:59.460 children

01:26:00.000 but when

01:26:00.600 you're

01:26:00.800 a state

01:26:01.560 claiming

01:26:02.120 to protect

01:26:02.860 a population

01:26:04.040 that becomes

01:26:04.980 a nefarious

01:26:06.020 and dangerous

01:26:06.880 ideology

01:26:08.080 the only

01:26:10.400 value

01:26:11.000 that the

01:26:12.340 state

01:26:12.700 could offer

01:26:13.300 I suppose

01:26:14.260 is international

01:26:15.440 security

01:26:16.480 and

01:26:17.340 conceptually

01:26:19.000 one might

01:26:19.540 assume

01:26:19.940 protection

01:26:20.820 against

01:26:21.500 rampant

01:26:22.540 corporate

01:26:23.100 advance

01:26:24.100 and globalism

01:26:25.420 but given

01:26:26.080 that there's

01:26:26.500 plainly an

01:26:27.280 alliance

01:26:27.860 between the

01:26:28.540 state

01:26:28.900 and globalism

01:26:29.720 in most

01:26:30.720 of the

01:26:31.080 countries

01:26:31.600 anglophonic

01:26:32.180 countries

01:26:32.560 western

01:26:32.820 countries

01:26:33.220 call them

01:26:33.540 what you

01:26:33.760 will

01:26:33.960 then that

01:26:34.680 is a

01:26:35.160 moot

01:26:35.480 point

01:26:35.980 plainly

01:26:37.040 what's

01:26:37.300 required

01:26:37.780 is radical

01:26:38.420 decentralization

01:26:39.580 radical

01:26:40.580 individual

01:26:41.080 freedom

01:26:41.600 radical

01:26:42.360 new

01:26:42.900 alliances

01:26:43.560 and

01:26:44.280 that's

01:26:45.220 why I

01:26:45.440 was

01:26:45.520 so

01:26:45.680 when we

01:26:46.200 first

01:26:46.540 started

01:26:46.800 communicating

01:26:47.460 I

01:26:48.120 felt like

01:26:48.420 oh my

01:26:48.660 god

01:26:48.840 Tucker

01:26:49.140 Carson

01:26:49.540 it felt

01:26:49.880 like a

01:26:50.180 kind

01:26:50.400 of

01:26:50.520 apostasy

01:26:51.120 I

01:26:51.320 felt

01:26:51.460 like

01:26:51.580 oh my

01:26:51.780 god

01:26:51.980 what am

01:26:52.200 I

01:26:52.300 doing

01:26:52.760 going

01:26:53.040 on

01:26:53.280 Fox

01:26:53.860 news

01:26:54.260 and

01:26:54.500 stuff

01:26:55.060 but now

01:26:56.720 I feel

01:26:57.120 completely

01:26:58.120 relaxed

01:26:58.720 probably

01:27:01.140 because you're

01:27:01.740 not on

01:27:02.160 Fox anymore

01:27:02.900 that's true

01:27:03.980 I think

01:27:07.140 some economic

01:27:08.080 miscalculations

01:27:09.380 were made

01:27:09.820 over there

01:27:10.240 at Fox

01:27:10.720 I'm so

01:27:15.380 grateful

01:27:15.820 so my

01:27:21.320 last

01:27:21.800 question

01:27:22.320 is

01:27:23.340 where do

01:27:25.020 you think

01:27:25.620 we are

01:27:27.300 in a

01:27:28.320 year

01:27:28.620 do you

01:27:29.960 have a

01:27:30.160 clear picture

01:27:30.660 of that

01:27:31.140 no I

01:27:31.780 don't

01:27:32.020 actually

01:27:32.380 Tucker

01:27:32.760 I mean

01:27:33.420 I'm

01:27:33.740 worried

01:27:33.980 about

01:27:34.220 where

01:27:34.400 we're

01:27:34.600 going

01:27:34.680 to be

01:27:34.860 in

01:27:34.980 half

01:27:35.200 an

01:27:35.340 hour

01:27:35.620 I'm

01:27:38.420 thinking

01:27:38.640 about

01:27:38.840 sprinting

01:27:39.500 off

01:27:39.680 this

01:27:39.920 stage

01:27:40.420 into

01:27:41.020 the

01:27:41.300 phoenix

01:27:41.960 night

01:27:42.500 well we're

01:27:44.780 going to

01:27:45.000 get dinner

01:27:45.440 because I'm

01:27:45.880 starving

01:27:46.260 my hope

01:27:49.620 is

01:27:50.060 there are

01:27:50.940 for some

01:27:52.040 time

01:27:52.440 technology

01:27:53.280 has created

01:27:54.220 the possibility

01:27:55.100 for

01:27:56.140 further

01:27:57.160 decentralization

01:27:59.560 of power

01:28:00.260 it is clear

01:28:01.260 that this is

01:28:01.780 being resisted

01:28:03.040 by the use

01:28:04.120 of crisis

01:28:04.800 to legitimize

01:28:06.160 re-centralization

01:28:07.840 I wonder

01:28:08.820 like you know

01:28:09.620 when I see

01:28:10.460 there was

01:28:11.100 of course

01:28:11.540 Napster

01:28:12.500 created

01:28:13.740 disarray

01:28:14.480 in the

01:28:14.740 record

01:28:14.980 industry

01:28:15.520 then there

01:28:16.200 was

01:28:16.340 the

01:28:16.740 Arab

01:28:17.120 Spring

01:28:17.600 it was

01:28:17.880 clear

01:28:18.160 that

01:28:18.380 the

01:28:18.560 online

01:28:18.960 technology

01:28:19.560 social media

01:28:20.240 in particular

01:28:20.880 could create

01:28:21.800 revolutionary

01:28:22.460 moments

01:28:23.460 then through

01:28:24.380 commercial

01:28:25.780 ingenuity

01:28:26.660 in the

01:28:27.020 assertion

01:28:27.600 of power

01:28:28.120 the wild

01:28:29.320 west

01:28:29.780 of online

01:28:30.500 spaces

01:28:31.100 became

01:28:31.680 tiled

01:28:32.460 over

01:28:32.900 by the

01:28:33.380 familiar

01:28:33.840 logos

01:28:34.440 of

01:28:34.980 corporatism

01:28:36.000 well I

01:28:37.300 wonder

01:28:37.920 if the

01:28:38.660 technology

01:28:39.420 and

01:28:39.880 ingenuity

01:28:40.580 that is

01:28:40.980 granted

01:28:41.400 for example

01:28:42.200 Uber

01:28:42.800 or

01:28:43.380 Airbnb

01:28:43.980 might be

01:28:45.260 deployed

01:28:45.760 to create

01:28:46.660 more

01:28:47.020 decentralized

01:28:47.720 and localized

01:28:48.960 democracy

01:28:50.360 where people

01:28:51.360 would have

01:28:51.860 more control

01:28:52.740 over how

01:28:53.720 budgets were

01:28:54.560 used in

01:28:55.120 their region

01:28:55.880 whether

01:28:56.520 budgets were

01:28:57.720 spent on

01:28:58.080 education

01:28:58.680 or health

01:28:59.840 or migration

01:29:01.020 or security

01:29:02.400 or military

01:29:03.100 industrial complex

01:29:04.320 I have a great

01:29:05.500 faith in fact

01:29:06.560 and you alluded

01:29:07.440 to this earlier

01:29:08.420 yourself

01:29:09.000 in the wisdom

01:29:10.740 of ordinary

01:29:11.880 people

01:29:12.520 populism is being

01:29:13.900 perjured as a

01:29:15.000 term

01:29:15.420 and being

01:29:16.120 equated

01:29:16.800 sort of

01:29:17.560 kind of

01:29:18.140 cleverly

01:29:19.220 they're very

01:29:19.600 good at this

01:29:20.320 the way that

01:29:20.720 they can start

01:29:21.620 using terms

01:29:22.300 like joy

01:29:23.060 or weird

01:29:24.040 but you know

01:29:24.720 we can

01:29:25.100 quickly curate

01:29:26.720 and bring together

01:29:27.700 like packages

01:29:28.580 of people doing

01:29:29.700 it again and

01:29:30.300 again these points

01:29:31.020 being reiterated

01:29:31.920 and there's an

01:29:32.620 attempt to make

01:29:33.140 populism

01:29:34.020 a kind of

01:29:34.960 dirty word

01:29:35.840 a dirty term

01:29:36.600 but populism

01:29:37.240 simply means

01:29:38.160 as far as I

01:29:38.740 can tell

01:29:39.020 listening to

01:29:40.100 people

01:29:40.560 and forming

01:29:41.680 government

01:29:42.240 on the basis

01:29:43.300 of consensus

01:29:44.260 from the bottom

01:29:45.600 up not from

01:29:46.420 the top down

01:29:47.200 so there is a

01:29:48.120 possibility

01:29:48.620 with the great

01:29:50.660 work that you

01:29:51.420 continue to do

01:29:52.420 particularly if it's

01:29:53.340 conducted with an

01:29:54.160 open heart

01:29:54.960 and radical

01:29:55.840 inclusivity

01:29:56.880 and a willingness

01:29:57.920 to form new

01:29:58.740 alliances

01:29:59.220 there is a

01:30:00.000 possibility that

01:30:00.760 something extraordinary

01:30:01.800 could happen in

01:30:02.740 America

01:30:03.140 and America

01:30:03.920 and America

01:30:03.940 is the one

01:30:04.500 country where

01:30:05.140 it really

01:30:05.560 ought to happen

01:30:06.360 new alliances

01:30:07.400 that absolutely

01:30:08.360 defy their

01:30:09.400 language of

01:30:10.020 condemnation

01:30:10.800 we must be

01:30:11.640 radically open

01:30:12.600 hearted

01:30:13.160 radically loving

01:30:14.480 radically forgiving

01:30:15.880 for who was the

01:30:16.960 most radical

01:30:17.940 being that we

01:30:19.140 have ever known

01:30:19.860 who loved more

01:30:21.200 than anyone else

01:30:22.040 who forgave more

01:30:23.120 than anyone else

01:30:23.960 who gave themselves

01:30:25.320 that we might

01:30:26.160 live

01:30:26.480 I can think

01:30:27.560 of I can't see

01:30:28.960 in secularism

01:30:30.040 any solution

01:30:30.800 I can't see

01:30:31.720 in politics

01:30:32.220 anything other

01:30:33.020 than the

01:30:33.460 green shoots

01:30:34.680 of possible

01:30:35.300 change in the

01:30:36.020 alliances that

01:30:36.720 we've touched

01:30:37.180 upon

01:30:37.480 but in our

01:30:38.320 Lord and Savior

01:30:39.180 I can see

01:30:40.320 the hope and

01:30:41.080 redemption that

01:30:41.740 was promised

01:30:42.220 us

01:30:42.640 and that

01:30:43.180 will be

01:30:43.480 my path

01:30:44.200 so I

01:30:49.220 I've never

01:30:51.140 asked this

01:30:51.680 before

01:30:52.060 we haven't

01:30:52.760 talked about

01:30:53.240 this

01:30:53.540 and I

01:30:54.620 I mean this

01:30:55.820 in the most

01:30:56.320 open possible

01:30:57.620 way

01:30:57.820 not everyone's

01:30:58.400 going to share

01:30:58.840 your beliefs

01:30:59.300 or my beliefs

01:30:59.880 but would you

01:31:00.560 close in prayer

01:31:01.680 oh yeah

01:31:02.360 alright

01:31:02.700 I call on the

01:31:10.980 name of Lord

01:31:11.640 Jesus Christ

01:31:12.580 our heavenly

01:31:13.400 Savior

01:31:14.000 Lord I

01:31:15.000 humbly

01:31:15.600 in this

01:31:16.180 great congregation

01:31:17.100 in Phoenix

01:31:18.540 Arizona

01:31:19.040 with my

01:31:20.620 host

01:31:21.240 Tucker Carlson

01:31:22.500 in deference

01:31:23.440 to him

01:31:23.920 but in ultimate

01:31:25.120 deference to you

01:31:26.060 our Lord and

01:31:26.980 Savior

01:31:27.300 to whom

01:31:28.020 we are all

01:31:29.060 your younger

01:31:29.940 siblings

01:31:30.400 and your

01:31:31.100 children

01:31:31.520 I pray in

01:31:32.840 your name

01:31:33.280 that the

01:31:33.680 forthcoming

01:31:34.300 election

01:31:34.780 be an

01:31:35.180 opportunity

01:31:35.680 for unity

01:31:36.440 for America

01:31:37.220 and for

01:31:37.960 Americans

01:31:38.380 for forgiveness

01:31:39.120 and for

01:31:39.880 grace

01:31:40.380 that the

01:31:41.380 dark and

01:31:41.860 demonic

01:31:42.160 forces that

01:31:42.940 appear to

01:31:43.460 operate at

01:31:44.020 the level

01:31:44.400 of the

01:31:44.720 state

01:31:45.080 the deep

01:31:45.680 state

01:31:46.020 and the

01:31:46.340 corporate

01:31:46.700 and global

01:31:47.340 world

01:31:47.940 experience

01:31:48.700 your light

01:31:49.320 Lord

01:31:49.540 that we

01:31:49.820 are guided

01:31:50.300 that you

01:31:50.620 guide all

01:31:51.060 of our

01:31:51.300 tongues

01:31:51.640 and all

01:31:52.220 of our

01:31:52.520 words

01:31:52.860 and all

01:31:53.220 of our

01:31:53.500 hearts

01:31:53.920 that we

01:31:54.520 feel your

01:31:54.960 forgiveness

01:31:55.300 and that

01:31:55.640 we feel

01:31:55.960 your grace

01:31:56.540 thank you

01:31:57.400 Lord for

01:31:57.720 the many

01:31:57.960 gifts that

01:31:58.360 you have

01:31:58.560 bestowed

01:31:59.720 upon us

01:32:00.440 thank you

01:32:00.960 for the

01:32:01.240 glory of

01:32:01.820 consciousness

01:32:02.280 itself in

01:32:03.080 which we

01:32:03.380 can experience

01:32:04.160 you and

01:32:04.800 live you

01:32:05.180 thank you

01:32:05.620 for the

01:32:05.940 beauty

01:32:06.340 of nature

01:32:07.320 in which

01:32:07.620 we see

01:32:07.980 your wisdom

01:32:08.760 and your

01:32:09.140 creativity

01:32:09.640 and your

01:32:10.300 infinite

01:32:10.740 glory

01:32:11.220 thank you

01:32:11.800 Lord for

01:32:12.240 the many

01:32:12.540 leaders

01:32:12.960 and thank

01:32:13.440 you Lord

01:32:13.760 that you

01:32:14.100 were born

01:32:14.640 and died

01:32:15.440 that we

01:32:15.840 may be

01:32:16.360 forgiven

01:32:16.740 and that

01:32:17.140 we may

01:32:17.440 have

01:32:17.660 eternal

01:32:18.080 life

01:32:18.440 not through

01:32:18.940 merit or

01:32:19.400 anything

01:32:19.660 that we

01:32:19.980 have

01:32:20.100 individually

01:32:20.500 achieved

01:32:20.960 for surely

01:32:21.700 all of us

01:32:22.340 are fallen

01:32:22.980 but in

01:32:23.780 your holy

01:32:24.440 name

01:32:24.880 we are

01:32:25.920 forgiven

01:32:26.320 by your

01:32:27.220 act of

01:32:27.580 redemption

01:32:28.000 by your

01:32:28.720 sacrifice

01:32:29.340 in your

01:32:29.900 name we

01:32:30.240 pray

01:32:30.500 amen

01:32:31.340 amen

01:32:32.760 Russell Brand

01:32:35.080 ladies and

01:32:35.620 gentlemen

01:32:35.920 thank you

01:32:37.260 the big

01:32:43.700 tech companies

01:32:44.400 censor our

01:32:45.320 content

01:32:45.960 I hate to

01:32:46.720 tell you that

01:32:47.100 it's still

01:32:47.380 going on in

01:32:47.860 2024 but you

01:32:48.860 know what

01:32:49.020 they can't

01:32:49.560 censor

01:32:49.940 live events

01:32:51.540 and that's

01:32:52.080 why we are

01:32:52.480 hitting the

01:32:53.020 road on a

01:32:53.640 fall tour

01:32:54.380 for the

01:32:55.120 entire month

01:32:56.160 of September

01:32:56.860 coast to

01:32:57.520 coast

01:32:57.820 we will be

01:32:58.600 in cities

01:32:59.060 across the

01:32:59.720 United States

01:33:00.300 we'll be in

01:33:01.160 Anaheim

01:33:01.620 California

01:33:02.180 with Vivek

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The Tucker Carlson Show - September 05, 2024

Russell Brand on his Baptism, Big Pharma, Donald Trump, and the Globalists’ Attempt to Become God

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