In this episode, we discuss the Joe Biden and Joe Biden scandal, the Epstein scandal, and why we should all be mad at the media for covering it. We also discuss the latest in the Epstein case and how the media covered it.
01:14:30.340But, I mean, I don't like, I don't mess around on social media or, you know, half the texts I get are just people asking for favors anyways.
01:15:09.140Yeah, it's been a huge change, but, you know, I mean, it's just, we're all just humans and some people have a, I mean, like I said, man, I just don't take myself too seriously.
01:15:27.500And none of this shit really gets to me.
01:15:29.600It could all be taken away at a moment's notice and I'm ready to give it back.
01:15:33.820And I'm just, all I'm doing is trying to do good, you know?
01:15:39.760And so, when I'm, I mean, when I meet people like you or some of the other people that have been on the show, I mean, there is an aspect, like, I can't believe I'm, like, having fucking dinner with Tucker right now.
01:17:26.000And I just want to show that there's a lot of us out there that think on the same page, regardless of what the media says.
01:17:39.500And I think I am a, this sounds weird talking about myself like this, but I think I am, for whatever reason, I think I am just the average, uneducated, no college degree guy in the country that can talk to people.
01:18:00.240Wait, you don't have a college degree?
01:18:07.740I'm just a, I'm just a average guy that, that has a hard time understanding stuff.
01:18:15.620And I don't let my ego get in the way.
01:18:17.840I don't pretend like I know shit that I don't know.
01:18:20.600And if I don't understand, then I fucking ask questions.
01:18:23.000And it helps everybody that watches my show understand something because it's dumbed down to a level that the majority of America can digest and comprehend.
01:20:03.680I'm not going to blast you, but I think it's important that people know who that person is, whether we talk about politics or not.
01:20:10.360Like, the RFK, we talked about his heroin addiction and all that kind of stuff.
01:20:14.560And, and, uh, you know, it gives you a little more background on what, what, how they grew up, what their values are as a person, not just some soundbite bullshit, you know, that's fed to them.
01:20:25.740Um, and, um, and so I, I wanted to interview people on the other side of the fence too.
01:20:33.940And, um, and I really wanted Kamala to come on.
01:20:54.980We did a couple of, uh, press releases and to, to maybe pressure her and do it a little bit.
01:21:04.880And, um, she took it seriously and, and she watched, I was told she watched, she spent a night going through particular interviews and liked the way that I interviewed and liked my style and she wanted to do it.
01:21:19.120And, uh, they asked, you know, what do I want to talk about?
01:21:22.100And I said, well, I think we should definitely talk about the Afghan withdrawal and the Taliban funding.
01:21:26.620I'm pretty much initiated that entire conversation that developed into what it is.
01:22:08.900You know, and I don't, I don't really care about adults, you know, that do it.
01:22:12.240But, I mean, you can't give a kid the keys to do that, you know, at that age.
01:22:18.920And, eight years old, I mean, eight years old, was it Washington that's like, the state will come in and take your kid from you if you, if you don't do it, if they want to.
01:22:29.900I mean, what is, why even have parents at that point?
01:22:33.700I'm sure they don't want us to have parents.
01:23:32.020I think it would have gone no matter what they handed me for the outline or, or if I created my own outline that the questions would have been, um, blaming Trump for everything.
01:23:46.060Even if it has, even if it was nothing to do with the question, I think it would have just been Trump did this, Trump did that.
01:23:54.840What about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, you know?
01:23:57.320And, and I don't think I would have gotten any of her views or solutions or initiatives or anything.
01:24:04.620I think it would have all been just flipped around and pointed back at Trump.
01:24:08.520Do you think it's possible there would have been like a spark of warmth between the two of you?
01:26:40.820I really liked, I wasn't expecting him to be as personal as he was, you know, and me and my, he met everybody on my team and made it a point to, it wasn't like shaking somebody's hand and talking to his assistant or, or, you know, it was direct eye contact, wanted to meet the entire team.
01:26:59.560There was three NFL stars in there that came in to meet him.
01:27:04.100Um, and, uh, as soon as I walked in the room, he like, didn't care about him, came right over, introduced himself.
01:27:14.000And then after the interview, sat down in a room and talked with us and it was really, uh, I was happy and I was more happy that he treated my team with respect.
01:27:25.140And, uh, cause you know, you see a lot of people that are like, oh, you're just the fucking help.
01:27:29.100And it's like, no, that's like who makes the whole thing.
01:27:32.220So, you know, and, um, and, uh, so I really appreciated that.
01:27:38.520You know, it was, you never really know what you're going to get with, with.
01:27:43.200How do you think the administration's going so far?
01:28:53.940What specifically makes you feel hopeless?
01:28:56.680Oh, man, I mean, who's controlling our country and the influences and why haven't we seen these things?
01:29:09.420And it makes me skeptical, you know, and, and I don't hear, you know, some of this is, I may just not know, you know, cause I don't, like I mentioned,
01:29:24.820I don't pretend to know everything that's going on and I don't put the time in that I would need to, to, to figure it all out.
01:29:31.020But, you know, there's things like the energy grid and it's like, man, like we really need to fucking do something with our grid like yesterday.
01:29:41.060And, but is that more important than bombing Iran?
01:29:51.420And, um, yeah, you know, that, that stuff, and, and, you know, I get, I mean, I don't know.
01:30:01.000I want to know like what the real motivations are and, and, and, um, I love everything he says and, uh, the majority of everything that he says.
01:30:10.680But I, I, you know, I'd like to see the Ukraine, Russia thing finally come to an end and, and, uh, I like what they've done with Doge.
01:30:20.820I think that maybe they, maybe they've cut a little bit more than they need to.
01:30:24.760Um, but, you know, there's always human error with everything, but, you know, and, and, uh, look, I'm, I'm just fucking, I'm just, I'm going to get blasted for this.
01:30:35.440But, you know, I mean, what, I see all these negotiations going on in the Middle East and then I don't know when these buildings were approved or when these deals got done.
01:30:44.300But then I also see like, oh, there's a brand new hotel going up in Dubai or Abu Dhabi and another one going up in, in, um, um, Doha, I think.
01:30:54.000And, and I'm like, did these like just get done also with the deals that just happened over there?
01:31:22.620Yeah, but, but, um, and, but you know what, you know, what like bothers me more than any of this shit is that people have just lost the ability to critical think.
01:31:33.360And, and if you do say something about the tariffs or, um, is it Greenland or Iceland?
01:31:45.360If you do, if you throw any criticism towards any, and not just, not just Trump, but any, anybody that is in a position of power.
01:31:54.980I mean, the U.S. has just become so tribal now and it's, it's, you cannot criticize or, or, or give any constructive criticism to what's happening without getting blasted.
01:32:45.660And, um, I think that that could resemble the beginning of the end.
01:32:52.160I agree with every word and I can't help but note because I was there for it.
01:32:56.820At the beginning of the internet, we were told that all of this information would make us better informed and would increase our critical thinking abilities and that people wouldn't have to follow the propaganda because they would have all the information.
01:33:12.920And the opposite has turned out to be true.
01:33:14.720People seem much easier to control than ever before.
01:33:19.760Um, so back to the, the heaviest thing I think you've said, which is that you don't believe that anything's real.
01:33:28.020And again, I think most people can understand where you're coming from when you say that.
01:33:31.840One of the effects of that is to make everyone like really, really paranoid when it turns out that, you know, most of the things derided as conspiracy theories are real.
01:33:41.980Like clearly the explanation for 9-11 is silly, clearly, you know, and we're never going to find out any of this stuff.
01:33:49.400And so I think a reasonable person concludes like, man, there's a lot going on.
01:33:55.160I don't get, there's a lot of secret stuff.
01:33:56.880There are a lot of actual conspiracies.
01:35:44.500You, who I do think are one of the rare people just like committed to saying what you think is true, committed to remaining independent, right or wrong.
01:50:14.520Um, at least not that I remember, but first, uh, trip was to, uh, Kabul, Afghanistan and, um, you can do kind of, I mean, Blackwater, I think had a 60 day minimum deployments.
01:50:33.340Um, so you could do up to maybe a hundred something days.
01:50:40.160And so some guys go and they do a hundred something days.
01:50:43.440They come home for a week and then they're right back out.
01:50:45.460Um, and there's guys that do 60 on 60 off.
01:50:50.600And, um, so you just kind of come up with your cadence and, and go.
01:51:24.320Cause it takes two people to be a Jason Bourne.
01:51:27.540And, um, so we would help case officers plan their operations, plan their meets, stuff like that, conduct, and then conduct surveillance, conduct counter surveillance.
01:51:38.420Um, get them kind of whatever they need.
01:51:43.340And, um, at the beginning it was, and I wasn't really near the beginning.
01:51:47.720I mean, I think I started contracting in 2007.
01:51:50.920So the war had been going on for what, about six years.
01:51:54.680And, um, so towards the beginning, I guess.
01:51:58.200But, um, you know, it was real pain in the ass because, I mean, at the beginning of the war, you know, you had all these case officers coming in.
01:52:06.780And then, and they're fresh out of school and they don't really understand the environment that they're in.
01:52:12.920They don't think they need us until they need us.
01:52:17.660But a lot of case officers and chiefs of station and deputy chiefs of station, uh, that would be the head guy and head CIA guy in country.
01:52:26.880They, they, they kind of saw us as a hindrance to their operations until shit started happening, like Benghazi coast, a lot of these, uh, tragic events that happened.
01:52:36.620And then every once in a while, you'd get like a really good, sorry.
01:52:43.200So you get a lot of these, and then you get the old timers that are coming in from the cold war and they're used to working in a semi-permissive environment or a permissive environment where they don't need that kind of shit.
01:52:53.220They can just go and meet their assets and drink their fucking coffee.
01:53:15.660And, um, but every once in a while you'd get a guy who was a retired green beret or a retired, uh, special operations Marine or a seal or whoever.
01:53:26.780And they would, they would look at the, at the, the program that I was in and they would, they would, they would realize like, these guys are all special ops.
01:53:38.140Like they have a lot of capability that we're not utilizing them for.
01:53:42.500And so then, then things started getting added to the plate.
01:53:46.060You know, they're like, Hey, could you guys do X, Y, or Z?
01:53:50.100And we're like, Oh yeah, we can do all of that.
01:53:51.780We just, you guys just don't utilize that capability because I don't think you realize that everybody here is extremely capable of what they do.
01:54:26.460How it all kind of works in some of the meetings that you sit in on and, and, and, and, you know, from a personal standpoint, I've always been fascinated with how people live in extreme poverty.
01:54:44.960And, uh, and, uh, and to see, like, just to see it and experience it and, and, and, and be a part of it, try to blend into it, uh, was both a challenge and very fascinating.
01:58:36.660I mean, the Russians were there, the Iranians were there, the Chinese were there.
01:58:40.440And so you're trying to figure out where they're operating out of, what their safe houses look like.
01:58:47.180Chinese were always super easy to identify because you would just be passing through Yemen and all these mud huts or safe houses or just houses.
01:58:55.480And, you know, you drive by the Chinese compound every single time they have 120 antennas on the roof.
01:59:06.880But it would get, I mean, and it's, so you're conducting, you know, normal operations and dealing with terrorists and assets and all that kind of stuff, you know, for the main initiative.
01:59:21.180But on the other hand, you're also having to conduct surveillance and counter surveillance from the Russians, from the Chinese, from the Iranians, any other key players that are in those countries and have to know who's who.
01:59:33.140And they're spying on us and we're spying on, it's very complex.
01:59:48.320But the whole country is hooked on it, right?
01:59:49.780Yeah, you would, I mean, it's, yeah, you would see these guys and just the whole population and, I mean, they would just be so zonked out on that.
02:00:02.140You'd say, I'm in a shitty taxi drive with, they're not even blinking and flies are landing on their fucking eyes.
02:00:08.040And it's like, holy shit, man, people live like this?
02:00:20.700I mean, I would see, I would, oh, like other operators.
02:00:25.720Like, I'd see, I'd see guys that are in safe houses from other units that are over there and, and I would see like their call sign up on the, on the board.
02:00:40.160And I'd be like, is that who I think it is?
02:00:43.040Oh, shit, I haven't seen him since like buds when I was in the SEAL team.
02:00:47.040And I'd call over there and be like, hey, get, get up on the roof.
02:01:13.980Uh, I mean, I don't really follow up on it too much these days, but I mean, they took over that damn country and, um, in no time.
02:01:23.560I mean, they yanked the, I can't remember if he was a president or a prime minister or whatever, but they took the whole country when we were there in like a matter of hours.
02:01:34.800And, um, so they were, they were really effective and woke up one day and all these new checkpoints are out.
02:01:42.740The, the, the guy got yanked out of the palace by the Houthis and, and on a totally different dynamic in less than 24 hours.
02:01:53.640Were you ever afraid when you were there?
02:03:31.020And then, uh, went home, had a surgery and I was sitting at a bar in Cape Coral, Florida, listening to a bunch of lazy, entitled Americans talk about their opinion of the war and all this other shit.
02:03:50.740And, um, I just got so fucking tired of listening to the shit on, on people's opinions that had never been there, had never done it, had never lost anybody, probably had never even faced any type of hardship in their life.
02:04:03.000And they're just judging me and all of my friends.
02:05:01.800Living a rockstar life and, uh, a lot of cocaine, a lot of girls, a lot of, basically what I was doing was, uh, chasing my adrenaline.
02:05:13.440And, uh, cause I wanted to feel that all the time.
02:05:16.780And it, it, it creates some type of, uh, imbalance in your brain when you have that many adrenaline dumps and you, it's, it's very much like a heroin addiction.
02:05:27.120And, um, so I went down there and then I started doing a lot of shit that I shouldn't be doing, buying drugs that became a big rush, um, buying and sourcing and cocaine.
02:05:40.040And, um, and so that's how it would get my thrills.
02:05:51.120And so, you know, I've talked about this on a couple of other, uh, podcasts, but, you know, there's a lot of like rumors going around there that I was down there working for CIA, setting up these drug networks when, yes, they do do that.
02:06:06.200But no, I was by myself on my own program and I've always been fascinated with narcos and, and kingpins and cartels.
02:06:16.500And it's like, it was, it was a major rush for me to go into the worst neighborhoods in Columbia and start setting up networks.
02:06:28.840And it, it, it, I mean, it's extremely dangerous for a gringo to be, I would go in neighborhoods where there were, you couldn't get into the neighborhood without going through at least two checkpoints.
02:06:46.740And, and, and so I would just, I would go in there, I would hang out, I would talk to people, I would buy drugs, cocaine, I would bring it back to my place, do them all, then go get more, go get more.
02:07:12.360And so what I saw, you know, back to my entrepreneurial branch is, uh, you know, what it was going to be is, you know, you get, I admit, put mentioned that, you know, secret service kind of put sex vacations on the map for.
02:09:38.840And, and so I did that and built a great rapport with them.
02:09:42.660And then, you know, nobody knows town better than taxis.
02:09:46.320And so I would take taxis and take taxis and try to develop relationship with different taxi guys that were not scared to go into Barrio Antioquia, which is kind of the worst neighborhood down there.
02:09:58.520And, and, and I would have my girls help me make decisions and, and tell me about the different taxi drivers that they use to pick them up from the clubs and stuff like that when they were done working or partying or whatever.
02:10:19.060And, and, and so I developed a really good relationship with a couple of different taxi drivers and they would show me everything I need to know, all the places that people don't want to go where, and I would get in with them.
02:10:34.560And then I would get in with the dealers and then the dealers would introduce me to their mid dealer.
02:10:39.440And then they would introduce me to their guy and, and, and the network grew so big that if I went to other countries, they would know who I was.
02:10:54.280Well, I made money contracting and your money goes a lot farther down there than it does in the U.S.
02:10:59.900So I didn't really need any until I blew it all, but, um, but, um, so the story goes, uh, so that's what I did and, uh, got in a lot of really hairy situations where I didn't know if I was going to come out, didn't really care if I did.
02:11:23.900Uh, I had, uh, kind of had the Hunter S Thompson, uh, mindset where if life gets too boring, then I'll just check out.
02:11:34.200And, um, it was starting to get boring down there.
02:11:59.980And he got tired of me being paranoid about it.
02:12:05.960And he goes, look, he's like, you don't need to worry about ODing on cocaine until things start slowing down.
02:12:12.600When you're on speed and things get slow, that's when you're really riding the line.
02:12:18.720And that had happened to me a couple of times where it sounded like my voice was in slow motion.
02:12:25.120The people next to me, uh, that I was talking to all of a sudden sounded like the Will Ferrell thing where it was like, and I'm like, and you can't talk.
02:12:34.440You can't get the words out that are in your head.
02:12:38.780And, um, and that's when, you know, it's about time the lights are going to go out.
02:14:36.740And he went on to do other things and, yeah.
02:14:40.580So, and I was, I was frustrated, but the money was really good contracting.
02:14:46.820And so I kind of got like stuck in this loop of like, well, I'll just go over there and make a bunch of money and then do whatever the hell I want to do.
02:16:43.860And thought it would be a great idea to throw all the cash up and just watch these people, like, go to town to try to get it.
02:16:52.320And, um, very, very dangerous, uh, part of Medellin.
02:16:59.060And, um, came back to my building, walked through.
02:17:04.580And, uh, the doorman came up and told me that, um, that, uh, the national police had come to question him about me and wanted my passport and all this shit.
02:17:15.200And, uh, wanted to know who I was, where I came from, what I'm doing, all of that stuff.
02:18:07.020And so at that point I knew that he wasn't lying.
02:18:11.280I was like, okay, literally nobody knows that I did that because it was like 45 minutes ago.
02:18:17.940And the only people that would know is my taxi guy and the girls that were with me and the crazies that were living under the bridge.
02:18:25.940And so he had said that they had set up a observation, um, basically an observation point at the building across from me and were watching me from that apartment.
02:18:39.600So I went up and, um, identified it where it was, flushed all the Coke and, um, went back into my previous life on surveillance and counter surveillance.
02:18:57.840And I did a, a counter surveillance route, uh, to a couple of different internet cafes, bought a couple of tickets, uh, to different places outside of the country and hauled ass to the airport, got, got out of there and never went back.
02:19:52.500It took, it took a lot of work, you know, and, um, it took a lot of work to, to clean myself up and, and find a productive direction to start running.
02:20:03.920And, and, um, and once, once I discovered business, um, that became my new addiction.
02:20:10.700What do you make of the claim that you're still working for CIA?
02:20:17.120I think it's, um, I mean, whatever people are going to think what they think, but, um, people don't understand how it works over there.
02:20:27.080Um, and so, I mean, there's a part of me that understands it.
02:20:52.880And we only did nine interviews for the first year and a half because I was editing sound video, cutting previews, doing social media packages, doing distribution, doing the research, interviewing, you know, all of that stuff.
02:21:07.860And, um, so, I mean, it, I think it's, you know, it really pisses me off is when somebody that I am paying attention to because they're bringing things out that I'm into, they're going down rabbit holes and, and conspiracy stuff that a lot of time winds up to be true.
02:21:31.380So, but then, and I think we're all on the same team and then I'll see him throw something out like Sean Ryan's a CIA shill.
02:21:39.780And it's like, dude, I just, I was like totally fucking bought in on what you're bringing to the table and all of your research.
02:21:49.060And I, I thought it was trustworthy, but when you throw something like that out there, you've just discredited yourself to me because you have no fucking proof because I'm not one.
02:21:57.160And now I don't believe anything that you say, because if you're just going to loose lip, throw shit out there like that, then what else are you fucking throwing out that you have not verified?
02:22:10.940Um, I do think that people are paranoid because it is true that the CIA operates against, you know, the constitution, against the law in the United States.
02:22:23.460And it, um, it does try and shape news coverage.
02:22:29.340No, I mean, I'm, I'm, I, I know that that happens and, and, and happens all the time.
02:22:36.920But at the same time, if you've listened to me, I've been extremely hard on CIA and I've talked about things that they have done that make me very paranoid.
02:22:49.280Uh, after the interview, like we, I can't remember if we discussed that an hour ago or if that was last night at dinner, but I mean, uh, I, there, it, it, it, that, that, that happens.
02:23:02.520And all the fucking time all over the world, but, you know, but nobody is ever able to pinpoint exactly why they think that they just throw it out.
02:23:13.280Of course, like, like there was, it really grew traction after I interviewed, um, the founder of Palantir.
02:23:20.000And cause I mean, people think that's a big war machine and, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, losing my train of thought here.
02:23:31.200The, uh, military industrial complex type company.
02:23:34.200And, and, but I mean, guess what, buddy, like we need innovators and we have to innovate.
02:23:41.680We can't just be doing the same old shit.
02:23:43.440And I want to know how we're innovating our military capabilities and our, our, uh, intelligence capabilities.
02:23:53.200And it, you know, to be honest with you, it gives me comfort knowing that we are still innovating as much red tape as we have to deal with.
02:24:01.560And I, I think that that's what gives me a glimmer of hope when we're talking about global domination and China and all that kind of stuff.
02:24:13.680And if people don't even under, I don't know why Palantir has such a bad rap.
02:24:17.460Maybe, you know, something that I don't, but I mean, to me, that was fucking genius.
02:24:22.260It speeds up the decision-making process.
02:24:24.820It speeds up the intelligence gathering.
02:24:26.920We're able to access information, you know, lightning speed to be ahead of whoever our adversary is.
02:24:34.000I mean, people are mad at Palantir because they disagree with U.S. foreign policy.
02:24:39.800And I think that's kind of the main, from what I can tell, I'm hardly an expert on the subject.
02:24:44.040But I think that it's, I mean, not to be a conspiracy nut, but your, you know, public performance over the past five and a half years has, you know, been run counter to the aims of the CIA, I would say.
02:25:01.560And so to tell people that you yourself are working for the CIA secretly is a way to discredit you that if I were the CIA, I would be encouraging.
02:25:33.440You know, I mean, they might, they might have somebody in operative do a five-hour interview and they might say, hey, this is all we need you to get in that interview.
02:25:55.700And so the whole other five hours could be complete bullshit except for the one little thing that they want injected into that interview to create some type of a narrative.
02:26:07.520And I'm always trying to look out for that, but it would be impossible.
02:26:10.660It would be impossible to figure out what exactly that is if that operative is good.
02:26:16.780And they'll do other things like, they may do other things like, hey, we know that this happened.
02:26:26.560You're going to go to this show and you're going to talk about this.
02:26:31.140And then two weeks from now, that's going to come out in the media or we'll wait until the interviewer releases that specific episode.
02:26:42.140And then two weeks after, we're going to release this to the press.
02:26:46.640And then they're going to say, this was said on this show by this person before it ever came out of the media.
02:26:54.940And then when it comes out in the media, because everybody hates the media, but they still fucking watch it all the time.
02:27:01.680That builds credibility to the operative.
02:27:39.860You know, but I just did a really good interview with this guy, Blarum Skoro, who was an asset.
02:27:46.440He got recruited out of prison and then he got recruited in prison by the CIA to, right after 9-11, to make friends with all of the Muslim brotherhood, all the terrorists that were in there.
02:28:14.700Because they all trusted him because this guy basically became like the head moolah of the prison system.
02:28:21.560And when he got out, agency gets back in touch with him and said, hey, you're going to use this network and you're going to, your cover is going to be, you're building a Al Qaeda cell in Macedonia.
02:28:38.080And so he would set up shop in Macedonia and he would go into Pakistan and go into Afghanistan and Syria, Iraq, Iran, all these, Russia, all these places.
02:28:50.380And he would meet with the head, the head of the Haqqani network, the head of the Taliban, the head of Al Qaeda, like very, he didn't meet specifically with bin Laden.
02:29:05.220But he's like one step away and so dangerous job.
02:31:42.380But I said, you know what goes through my head is what if somebody contacted you knowing you were coming on the show to say that you were getting uranium to Al-Qaeda to sneak into our country to blow us up?
02:31:57.080A lot of people want to see us go to war with Russia.
02:32:01.340Did he tell you that Iran was trying to assassinate Donald Trump, too?
02:32:56.180I sort of knew the rough outlines of your life, but I didn't realize like 20 minutes ago you were living in Columbia and then you were on the road.
02:33:03.360I mean, this just happened not 20 years ago, like seven years ago.
02:33:07.960So that's got to be one of the hardest pivots, one of the most profound transformations I've ever seen.
02:33:17.340I don't really kind of know anyone who's come this far in a separate direction in such a short period of time.
02:33:56.620And everybody that you think is your friend is fake and everybody just wants to take advantage of you.
02:34:03.100And once you get through the initial phase of, oh, man, this is like the coolest life, it's the loneliest fucking life that you can lead.
02:34:11.240And I almost died because of it several times.
02:34:15.320And, you know, how would it have turned up if I would have OD'd in one of those penthouses and my parents, who I love so much, and finds out, oh, yeah, there's our son, the Navy SEAL CIA contractor decomposing in a fucking penthouse in Columbia because he OD'd on cocaine.
02:34:35.260And that scenario went through my head a lot of times.
02:34:39.340And so I just, you know, I just, I don't want to encourage anybody to do that.
02:34:43.460But that was a low point in my life and something I'm not proud of.
02:34:48.500You've been a, I would say, pretty vocal advocate for sobriety in this job.
02:34:56.180How many of the guys who work for you are sober?
02:35:31.160I mean, have you seen, have you seen the baptism parties that are going on at, at colleges that look like, it looks like it's a kegger, crazy tailgate party.
02:35:41.780And they're baptizing people in the back of the back of trucks.
02:35:44.980And yeah, I think there's a huge wave going on.
02:37:02.720Last question, because I can't resist.
02:37:04.260I know you spent a lot of your time talking about this, but having fired every firearm, been trained on every firearm, what are your favorite firearms?
02:37:58.520You know what I really like is, I don't even know what it's called, but it's a revolver, but it's the, you know, you lift the little thing up and you have to load it one by one.