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00:00:30.000One of the most frustrating parts of the information overload that we live in now, where things are constantly coming at us through our phones, is that we never get a resolution to some of the biggest stories of our time.
00:04:15.020You're familiar with the rough outline of this.
00:04:18.080But the one fact that is true is that this did produce the largest FBI investigation in American history, something 5,000 agents were involved.
00:04:30.380And in the end, they arrested about 1,500 people on federal crimes.
00:04:36.600And a bunch of those people went to jail. Now, not everybody who is involved that day on camera, provably involved, including people who encouraged others to breach the Capitol, to go inside to break an obvious law by going into a locked federal building.
00:04:55.320not all of those people wound up being charged or serving jail time. Nick Fuentes, for example,
00:05:01.800was on camera encouraging people to storm the Capitol. He wasn't punished for that, apparently.
00:05:08.560Certainly didn't serve any jail time over it. Ray Epps didn't serve any jail time over it. Same
00:05:12.240thing. What is that? Maybe just a weird anomaly where the feds spent years in the, again, largest
00:05:21.840domestic criminal investigation in American history,
00:05:25.680charged 1,500 people with federal crimes,
00:05:27.640but just missed a couple who were on camera
00:08:00.700But there was one part of that story that was really never resolved at all, one way or the other.
00:08:06.280And it was a widely reported facet and then soon forgotten part of the story in which somebody planted pipe bombs like Unabomber type pipe bombs, pipes with explosives outside the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee the morning of 9-11.
00:08:26.080And this is one of those stories, again, that right away in the first hours after the fake insurrection happened, news outlets told you about it, and then they kind of stopped reporting on it.
00:08:38.740And then we learned maybe a year later that Kamala Harris was at the DNC when the pipe bomb was found, but somehow she never mentioned it.
00:08:46.000And you begin to think, it's not clear what happened there, but probably not what they told us.
00:08:53.100And by the way, why haven't they answered the question who did this?
00:10:10.320And the explanation that the Biden administration gave, sort of, to the extent they talked about it, was, well, this was an effort to distract people.
00:10:19.820law enforcement, from the insurrection that was happening at the Capitol, they would set
00:10:25.000off these bombs outside the two-party headquarters, law enforcement rushed there, and the insurrectionists
00:10:31.520would continue to, I don't know what, sit at Nancy Pelosi's desk, wander aimlessly around
00:10:37.280the Senate, which is what actually happened.
00:10:39.860It didn't actually do anything, but whatever, except get shot.
00:10:44.200But that's kind of where they left it.
00:10:46.220But this piece by Darren Beattie raised the possibility that, of course, and once you thought about this, it's clearly true, of course, federal law enforcement know exactly who planted bombs in front of the party headquarters.
00:11:01.960what made january 6th different from all other widely publicized crimes in our lifetimes is
00:11:11.520that it was a crime committed not against private citizens it wasn't like shooting people at a
00:11:15.040country music concert in las vegas injuring 867 of them i mean that's sad of course but
00:11:20.380what does that have to do with washington what does it have to do with us what does that have
00:11:24.640to the people who run the country no those are like whatever country music fans probably voted
00:11:28.560for Trump. Like, it's sad, sad. Maybe we can use our deaths to advocate for disarming the
00:11:34.260population. But it's not really a threat to anyone's power. Just the opposite, actually.
00:11:40.800January 6th was at least construed, and I think a lot of the people who repeated the propaganda
00:11:44.720convinced themselves that this was an actual threat to bipartisan Washington, not just to
00:11:48.800Democrats, but to Republicans. Lindsey Graham was every bit as upset as Chuck Schumer because it0.93
00:11:54.260was a threat to the symbol of their power, the Congress, which once upon a time was called the
00:11:58.360People's House and it's called the People's House as a reminder that actually the purpose of all of
00:12:02.040this is to serve the owners of the country, which is not members of Congress, 535 stewards of the
00:12:07.680country. It's the people who vote for them, the citizens. They own all of this. So they own by
00:12:12.220definition the Congress itself, the People's House. That's not the prevailing attitude in
00:12:18.180Washington, which needless to say is we own all of this and you're here for some purpose,
00:16:56.760If it turned out that January 6th was not an entirely organic, maybe partly organic, but not an entirely organic event, if it turned out that it was to some extent, maybe not wholly, but in part staged or encouraged by people with a completely different agenda, an agenda that included sabotaging Trump's political career going forward, then the perpetrators wouldn't just be the Democratic Party.
00:17:24.060they would be the majority of Republican leadership.
00:17:47.580got both houses of Congress and the White House,
00:17:49.800packed the Supreme Court and went crazy.
00:17:52.440It's that the leaders of both parties, not their voters, but the leaders of both parties in Washington had a very similar vision for what they wanted, how it might benefit them, and they did it.
00:18:02.720Not in opposition to each other, but in consensus, in agreement with each other.
00:18:10.180That is the unavoidable conclusion if you look at the past, say, 40 years of American history.
00:18:15.260Not that the parties are bitterly at odds, but that they are secretly in collusion.
00:18:21.460How could you reach another conclusion if you look at the outcome?
00:18:26.580But this specific story, while not related to economic reform policy, is a kind of window into the wall of resistance that you bump up against when you start asking questions about, hey, what is going on here?
00:18:41.900America's 250th anniversary is here, and it presents a great opportunity to consider why our national culture matters.
00:18:49.560Being an American is not something to be ashamed of.
00:23:32.500They did do those kinds of things, but not until later, not until after the Capitol was breached.
00:23:38.180That's one of the mistakes that, again, the right makes.
00:23:41.020The biggest mistake that the left makes is they are convinced by the narrow presentation of video that they saw.
00:23:48.940because i'll tell you i mean my critics will tell it from the left will say you can't gaslight me i
00:23:56.980saw it with my own eyes i was watching it live i know what happened no you don't you saw a very
00:24:02.600narrow narrowly focused battle scene there were only like between 80 and 100 people who did any
00:24:08.880violence that day at all out of the hundreds of thousands of people that went to the capital that
00:24:12.800day. Only 80, Tucker. But if you show the same battle scene from this angle, that angle, this
00:24:20.520angle, this camera, that camera, and you show it over and over and over and over again relentlessly
00:24:25.620for five years, then they believe that they know what they've seen. But they don't. Not until you've
00:24:31.020seen all of the other footage, which we have endeavored to do. I don't think anybody can see
00:24:36.28040,000 hours worth of video, but we've seen the most important parts of it. And that's why I can
00:24:41.680honestly sit before anybody again on the right or the left and go, no, that's not correct. And the
00:24:48.100right has a lot wrong as well. What they do have right is that it was a fedsurrection, but I don't
00:24:56.300think it was set up by the FBI, I believe. And I've talked about this before, so this isn't a
00:25:02.580big revelation. I'll give you a couple of those later. But this is and was a setup that was
00:25:11.920designed and manipulated by elements of the Department of Defense, Capitol Police, and the CIA
00:25:18.600to take down. It was a furtherance of the CIA and the intelligence community operation to take Trump
00:25:25.320out from ever being in politics ever again. And so the idea was to provoke something so awful
00:25:33.120that he would be, well, maybe legally prohibited by conviction on an impeachment trial, but
00:25:40.980otherwise so stained that he could never run again. That's exactly what the intent and the
00:25:45.080purpose was. And it was manipulated from the very beginning. I mean, look, you've done stories and
00:25:51.900All of us want to avoid defamation lawsuits, but I'm kind of past that point now.
00:25:57.160But, you know, if we started from the very beginning and revisited every aspect of January 6th, this would have to be a, you know, 20-part series today, and we're not going to do that.
00:26:12.660Well, give us some indication of why you've concluded it was a setup.
00:26:17.860up. The first thing that happened, and I was there that day, I captured my own video. And
00:26:24.920as I was driving home on the 7th from DC to Raleigh, North Carolina, where I live,
00:26:32.480we started hearing about the arrests that were already being made. The dragnet was already
00:26:37.340thrown the next day. We're hearing about it on the radio, television, on the drive home.
00:28:59.540And so, my second article, which came out about six weeks afterwards, I actually revealed for the first time that elements of our special forces were in the crowd.
00:29:13.760Now, I didn't portray them as being, you know, there for nefarious reasons or doing anything wrong.
00:29:20.100In fact, I even said it very well could be that they were there, you know, to take care of business in case things did get out of hand.
00:29:26.520But they weren't there in their capacity as private citizens and Trump voters.
00:29:34.260There were enlisted people, retired military, law enforcement.
00:29:37.080Ashley Babbitt was a former Air Force enlisted.
00:29:41.520There were FBI agents there as private.
00:29:43.880There were ATF agents there, private capacity.
00:29:47.540There were Trump supporters from all of the bureaus and agencies and this, that, and the other thing within the federal government that were there in private capacities.
00:30:30.340And then exactly one year later, a writer for Newsweek, a gentleman by the name of William Arkin, on the first anniversary of January 6th, published an article.
00:30:42.820The headline was, Secret Commandos with Shoot to Kill Orders at January 6th.
00:30:50.200That's the headline, the Newsweek story.
00:34:03.560Disavowing or saying something or commenting about whatever, whether it's the FBI, CIA, DOD.
00:34:08.180Well, when you call the DOD and you ask them about this particular unit out of Fort Belvoir, just outside of D.C., we don't know what you're talking about.
00:34:50.120They are, they're not supposed to operate domestically, not at all, as none of the United States, you know, armed forces are except for National Guard.
00:35:00.620And so, there's the signal intelligence group that's mostly, if I, and they'll, believe me, they'll correct me when I get a little minor details wrong.
00:35:10.100But the signal intelligence part of them, most of them are out of Fort Meade.
00:35:13.560And these are the guys, I mean, look, these are the most elite of the elite of the elite.
00:45:31.600We don't have that number. The FBI could tell us that number. They know that number. First of all, we know that there was 20-something CHSs that they've told us about, confidential human sources, actively working with CIA, I mean, I'm sorry, FBI handlers as they were embedded in the various organizations, whether the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers or Three Percenters or whatever.
00:45:53.680I believe there was a much higher number than that that they've not revealed.
00:45:56.860And then, of course, there were the operatives.
00:45:59.220The other thing, and I'm not trying to give FBI any grace on this, but the truth of the matter is, is if you've got a crowd size of, my estimate was that the total crowd size was between 400,000, 600,000 people at the Capitol that day.0.98
00:46:14.740The actual Capitol Police officers who testified in the crowd said that as they looked out over the sea of people, it was, and this is a quote from the trials, it was a crowd as large as any inaugural event I have ever attended.0.99
00:46:44.740And then you've got people that exaggerate and say there were 2 million people, but there weren't.
00:46:48.920So, you have this situation where in a crowd of that size, anytime, you're going to have elements of all of the federal law enforcement agencies and departments and bureaus are going to be there.
00:47:08.560They're going to have counter-surveillance teams in the crowd, and we want them there.
00:48:02.500But, I mean, look, we don't need to relive his case, but the obvious is the obvious.
00:48:07.560He was number 16 on the FBI's January 6th Most Wanted list,
00:48:11.900and then suddenly he wasn't and suddenly disappeared and suddenly the new york times
00:48:16.500comes out alan foyer and does a puff piece article on him and gosh when did that come out
00:48:22.140summer of 22 and they made him the sympathetic character never forget it yeah it's incredible
00:48:28.160how does the guy that is the most open most broadcast person calling people to go into the
00:48:34.840capital how does he become the sympathetic character of the left and never get charged
00:48:39.760you know eventually eventually right but but with minor charges he never even had to come
00:48:46.580into dc has never got charged with anything no which is kind of crazy since nick fuentes was
00:48:50.380calling people to rush the capitol what is that a lot of people there are a lot of there's there's
00:48:55.320characters that are on video and there's a there's a tremendous amount of video beyond the capitol
00:49:01.300police cctv which by the way that video has no you know the cctv as you know has no audio
00:49:06.980But the body cam footage, the news camera footages, the insane amount of iPhone footage that have been collected for discovery in all these trials.
00:49:17.960So we hear tons and tons of characters that are calling for violence, calling for people to attack law enforcement, to storm the Capitol, this, that, and the other thing.
00:49:27.660And so many of those have never been arrested.
00:49:35.880Well, so when the FBI first interviewed me in October of 21, a month later, the U.S. attorney, the assistant U.S. attorney who had my case, notified my attorney in Raleigh that his client was going to be charged within the week.
00:49:55.700This was the week before Thanksgiving of 21, and they listed the charges.
00:50:00.240They were going to charge me with, I kid you not, interstate racketeering.
00:50:05.880To my knowledge, I was the only one of everybody in the whole January 6th dragnet prosecutions, weaponization of our government against all of us that was going to be charged with racketeering.
00:50:19.300And basically the case that they were going to make is that because I, as an independent journalist, blogger, had made money from the licensing of my videos, HBO licensed my videos, New York Times licensed my videos for their documentary, others all over the world licensed some of my videos.
00:50:40.540and you know you don't give her much money for you know there it's like uh the the the standard
00:50:47.940rate is a thousand dollars per minute well so when they when they use six seconds of your video
00:50:54.480you're not getting a lot of money no so so uh uh that was the only thing that we could conclude
00:51:02.220and then so what we did is we did a major press offensive so this was the week before
00:51:08.660Thanksgiving. On Monday of Thanksgiving week, we sent out about 200 press releases to all manner
00:51:14.180of media and saying that, you know, a journalist is being prosecuted for his journalism on January
00:51:19.4606th, being me. And the DOJ backed off. And we didn't hear from them again for 20, even though
00:51:26.280they said I was going to be arrested Thanksgiving week. We have this in writing, by the way.
00:51:30.700Still do. They said I was going to be arrested the week of Thanksgiving of 21. We didn't hear
00:51:36.160from them again until 20 months later when I got a grand jury subpoena. 20 months? 20 months. They
00:51:41.460went dead silent. Would not even respond to my attorneys. That's so wrong. That is not a free
00:51:48.400country when they act like that. Left me in the lurch like that for that long. And then it was
00:51:54.080until after the grand jury subpoena, it was another eight months before they did actually
00:51:59.240arrest me. Where did they arrest you? I was working for the Blaze at the time and I was in
00:52:04.380Dallas, where the Blaze headquarters was, it was kind of pre-planned when they told us what the
00:52:08.900date of my voluntary submission to the FBI, we chose to do that in Dallas so that we could get
00:52:16.420it all on camera. And I submitted myself to the FBI field office in Dallas, and then they
00:52:22.540processed me there, handcuffed me. That's where they captured my perp walk on camera. And then
00:52:29.900they took me down to the federal courthouse in Dallas. You charged with a felony?
00:53:20.460So I have my pretrial hearing was the day after the election.
00:53:26.260And Judge Christopher Cooper, which, by the way, the same judge who just made them take Trump's name off of the Kennedy Center, same judge, he hated me.
00:55:48.260So, I had that knowledge and that information going into my trial date, and I rolled the dice.
00:55:58.720That's why I pled guilty to all four, rather than going through the humiliation exercise.
00:56:03.840And so, we were in the hearing, and at the end of that pleading guilty to all four, the judge asked the clerk, when is Mr. Baker's sentencing hearing?
00:56:17.200And she typed in, she goes, Mr. Baker's sentencing hearing will be March 6th.
00:56:56.640He never mentioned one thing I was charged with, never mentioned anything that I did or said at the Capitol.
00:57:03.220The only thing he did was my post-January 6th, or talked about was my post-January 6th journalism, in which I had referred to the weaponization of the Department of Justice and the bias of this court.
00:57:17.440And he spent seven or eight minutes defending the court against my journalism.
00:58:22.220And, in fact, in the press conference afterwards outside the courthouse, I actually looked at the guy from the Washington Post, Spencer Hugh, and I said, you were in there.
00:58:46.560So it was, I don't know, but it was months, many months after January 6th that I first
00:58:53.680became aware of the mystery of the two pipe bombs left on Capitol Hill that morning.
00:58:59.020It was a piece, I think, by Darren Beattie and Revolver.
00:59:05.020And so that was at least four years ago, and I don't think we're any closer to, or I'm not, any closer to understanding what that was.
00:59:13.100Can you describe the story, like, what was publicly conveyed about those pipe bombs, and then tell the story about what you think actually happened?
00:59:22.800Yeah, what the public believes happened was that a nefarious individual planted these devices, these weapons of mass destruction at both the Republican National Committee headquarters and the Democratic National Committee headquarters.
00:59:38.980and that a lot of people believe that those were to be used in case we couldn't stop the, you know, we, you know, the people who stormed the Capitol that day.
00:59:53.280Right, the insurrectionists, which I was accused of being, couldn't stop the vote that day or the confirmation of the Electoral College vote that they were going to blow the bombs.
01:00:05.580That was the initial thought, and that was, of course, the way the press breathlessly presented this.
01:00:29.680Now, everything starts breaking down from there.
01:00:33.560First of all, we now know, in hindsight, from actual FBI agents who were tasked to that investigation, that they were told by leadership that the devices were inert.
01:00:47.500But individuals that are familiar with bomb making and bomb training from all of the federal agencies have said, looking at the photographs and looking at the FBI's forensic report, which came out a week later, I have, I have the entire report, said that these were typical training devices.
01:01:11.280One of the FBI whistleblowers famously said they would have been bombs if they had been bombs.
01:01:17.500And so, we now know that despite what the FBI continues to say about the devices, being dangerous, having the potential to do great harm and bodily.
01:01:28.520In fact, they've charged the guy that they've arrested with weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.
01:01:34.040But, I mean, when it was first reported, it was reported as an act of terrorism.
01:02:36.340The second breakdown is then in the timing.
01:02:38.360So, the discovery of the devices, the first one was discovered 25 minutes before the bicameral meeting of Congress and the gavel dropped by Vice President Pence at 1 o'clock.
01:02:51.520So, the first bomb was discovered 25 minutes before that.
01:02:56.560Then the second device was discovered five minutes after 1 o'clock.
01:03:01.920Well, Chief of Police, Capitol Police, Steve Sun, who you've interviewed a couple of times, he absolutely says that those were diversionary devices.
01:03:15.120Those were meant to divert resources from the Capitol, already, as I mentioned earlier, extremely depleted.
01:03:23.520On January 6th, there were 2,000 uniformed officers with the Capitol Police.
01:04:43.940He did not leave the stage till 116 p.m.
01:04:48.340By then, the first breaches had already happened.
01:04:51.160The first battle lines had already been established and the first launching of less than lethals into the crowd were already taking place before the president ever left the stage.
01:04:59.460All those early people, including Ray Epps, including about 50 former Marines that were on that front line, had already breached the barricades, had already started taunting and attacking police.
01:05:18.760and um and now you have two calls over the police radio which we have we have in the entire
01:05:31.840uh all day of the police radio and the calls go out they need reinforcements at the rnc and the
01:05:41.600dnc because that's within both of those buildings or within the capital police jurisdiction so they
01:05:47.880had to divert this already depleted force. And that's why we know that they were diversionary
01:05:56.720devices. And that was the point, was to pull law enforcement away. So, at the same time that
01:06:02.260Capitol Police are going to the other locations, now you have the arrival of Metropolitan Police
01:06:07.380are now showing up at the Capitol. They're streaming in. They're coming in to kick butt.
01:06:12.060The fighting gets worse and worse and worse. And as I said, good people on both sides of the line,0.97
01:06:17.120bad people on both sides of the line. And the next thing that we know, and this is what's
01:06:24.600really important, is in the aftermath of the devices, is what we learned from video. And this
01:06:30.380is the single most important thing that we learned from video, first of all, is we saw the reaction
01:06:35.360to the discovery of the device at the DNC. Now, we did not see the reaction because the Capitol
01:06:42.260police has never showed us or the FBI has never showed us any video in the alleyway behind the
01:06:49.340RNC. No, the device was actually behind the Capitol Hill Club, you know, Republican hangout
01:06:53.940kind of next door and attached to the RNC. There's allegedly no camera there, but there is.
01:07:02.860I'll get to that here in a minute. But at the DNC, we see a, Thomas Massey likes to call him
01:07:11.920the two counter-surveillance officers that work for the Capitol Police,
01:10:20.500I believed, and I've said this from the very beginning, the only thing that explains their reaction, our lack of reaction thereof, was the fact that they were told by the Capitol Police guys, hey, look, we're in the middle of a training exercise.
01:10:37.120So, we've got these, you know, devices over here.
01:10:40.580We're going to have to start the dog and pony show here a little bit.
01:10:44.980We're going to have the robot and all that.
01:10:47.360Oh, no, no, go ahead and finish your lunch.
01:10:49.840That's the only thing that explains the reaction.
01:10:51.900And it's why Kamala Harris, despite being there at the time and talking about January 6th constantly like it was Pearl Harbor plus 9-11, never publicly said a word about the fact she was there.
01:11:03.140Now, you would think Kamala Harris would be bragging, I survived January 6th.
01:11:07.400I survived a bombing attempt from the radical right, white-wing supremacists or whatever.
01:11:12.820Instead, it took a year before Newsweek, not Newsweek, Politico revealed that she was even in the building.
01:13:24.400I happen to know where it was because I'd been through it before.
01:13:26.880And so this young bomber, which we'll get into, I'm sure, here in a moment, this young black autistic individual who allegedly confessed to the crime told FBI that he mapped out his route for planting the devices by using Google Maps.
01:13:47.500There's two things that aren't on Google Maps, though.
01:13:50.500That secret gate, nor are the blind spots in Capitol Police CCTV cameras.
01:14:09.060Now, the FBI has only ever released about 30 seconds of video of the bomber and put out a $500,000 reward.
01:14:16.880asking for tips from the public if you recognize the way this person walks or the way you recognize
01:14:21.300anything about it you know call this 1-800 number and um the interesting thing is is that
01:14:30.880the fbi themselves told the congressional committee this was louder milk in louder
01:14:35.960milk and massings report that they had 30 000 video files of the bomber that's their that's
01:14:44.800their number, not mine, 30,000 video files. They have only released about 30 seconds of video.
01:14:51.800Because of our access to Capital CCTV, we have about 21 minutes of the Hoodie Bomber walking
01:14:57.380around. It's never been shown to the public. Where'd you get that? Capital CCTV.
01:15:04.560How do you get access to Capital CCTV? Well, if you remember, you guys were first granted access
01:15:10.500by McCarthy. And then they used a small handful of us as guinea pigs to eventually give universal
01:15:18.800access. So, House investigators have it. House investigators have it. They have the hard drives.
01:15:25.300Yep. And then they gave us access. Myself, Julie Kelly, John Solomon,
01:15:32.920Joe Hanneman, who was with Epoch Times at the time, now my partner in this project, and myself.
01:15:45.540And so with this access that we got, we harvested, literally harvested, this amount of footage of the bomber walking around.
01:15:54.220And this is where it really comes home to the Capitol Police, is on the evening that the gray hooded figure was planting the devices, this individual only sat down in two places during the stroll, during that 734 to 818 period.
01:16:16.860The first place that the hooded bomber sat down at was the DNC bench, but did not place the bomb the first time that this individual sat down.
01:16:29.800Got up left, went around the block, and went to the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and sat down at a bush outside the Congressional Black Caucus.
01:16:41.740reached into the backpack pulled out a device and slid it under the bush then
01:16:50.020changed their mind reached grabbed it back and put it back into the pouch or the backpack stood up
01:16:58.680went down a back alleyway back to the dnc and then planted the bomb at the dnc you can see
01:17:05.600the hooded figure on camera, reach in, pull the device out of the bag, and then lay it over behind
01:17:12.940the bench in the mulch there. One problem with that scene right there is the FBI says that
01:17:21.300Brian Cole Jr., who they arrested for being the bomber, said that that was when he set the timer
01:17:28.200on, you know, the egg timer, kitchen timer.
01:17:33.800Except on video, he doesn't set the timer.
01:19:10.880They spend their entire stroll from Metro South over to not the DNC.
01:19:17.040They go to Congressional Black Caucus Institute and walk right up to the bush, do this, look under the bush.
01:19:28.180Two minutes later, they then find the bomb at the DNC.
01:19:33.740The only two places that the hooded individuals sat down the night before is the only two places they actually looked in their stroll while they were looking for devices.
01:19:44.500They didn't look under garbage cans, under cars.
01:20:54.820So if you're the, just to be clear, I mean, and if you doubt this, you can go back into the clips and look at every sex scandal or DUI scandal on Capitol Hill.
01:21:03.200It's always the Capitol Police who are involved in it.
01:21:06.480And tons of people on the Hill have drinking or drug problems.
01:21:09.760There's a lot of crazy sex-related behavior and other things, and the Capitol Police know all that.
01:21:20.780As a matter of fact, the first time I ever met Tarek Johnson, it's one of the reasons why I gave your team his story, was he looked at me the very first time I met with him.
01:24:47.560and that's where the bomber either parked their car
01:24:51.500or their accomplice was waiting for them there.
01:24:53.880who would have access to the blind spots only some only the capitol police right only we know
01:25:02.380that there was when the bomber entered the mate there's a famous there's a famous video of the
01:25:08.920bomber apparently waving at a cop car and right in front of the uh capitol hill club as as a as a
01:25:16.120um uh marked capitol police car comes by the the bomber apparently waves at the car
01:25:22.460Then walks around the corner, two Capitol Police cars pull up with their headlights on and create a blind—they blitz out the cameras that are faced down the street.
01:25:36.300It completely obscures, and it was at that moment that the bomber ducked down into Ramsey Court was when the two cars blinded those cameras.
01:29:56.240The other one is a special operator who essentially assisted DARPA in the design of how to make it field worthy out in the field.
01:30:09.660And so I started looking for it in the crowd, me and my team.
01:30:14.420We're looking at backpacks everywhere.
01:30:16.160Well, one of the most interesting backpacks that day was worn by a small handful of Capitol Police officers that were up on the upper terrace that early, early, early on, before the crowd had gotten violent, started launching less lethals into the crowd.
01:30:34.040And they were wearing, so they've got their black uniforms on, but they've got military colored backpacks on.
01:30:42.120So we start zooming in on them and the cameras, and we got totally distracted about looking for a directed energy weapon because what we found was is that this team of less lethal officers were illegally firing into the crowd.
01:30:59.640They were firing their weapons against policy, against the law, against their own training.
01:31:05.480In fact, some of them were training officers in the use of less lethal, and they were using them in what's called a criminally negligent manner.
01:31:13.660Shooting people in the head, in the crowd, in the face.
01:31:17.160They were shooting their own officers in the back of their helmets on the front line.
01:31:21.620You could see the pepper pellets go explode off the back of their helmets.
01:31:25.700so we decided to do a story on the use of less lethal got distracted from the directed energy
01:31:33.520weapon story and because we now we found all this fresh video you know and so we needed to identify
01:31:39.760these officers so we're going down the line we identify one two three four and then there was
01:31:44.640one officer we couldn't identify to be honest with you we didn't know if it was a male or a female
01:31:48.920but this officer was firing the pepper ball gun that was hitting people in the head
01:31:54.160it's a point blank range by the way very close on these were not misfires and
01:32:03.200i have a sword one of my earliest sources at the capitol police on january 6 investigation
01:32:08.420was a cdu officer civil disturbance unit of the capitol police and the less lethal team is part
01:32:15.780of cdu so i called my source and i then sent him a photograph still shot of this officer
01:32:24.060And he immediately went, oh, yeah, that's Shawnee Kirkhoff.
01:32:55.980And he said, we heard that she might have went to one of the three-letter agencies or he said maybe it was defense intelligence or something.
01:33:10.060Well, turns out Ms. Kirkhoff was the first person to ever testify in the very first January 6th trial, the trial of Guy Reffitt in the summer of 22.
01:33:20.200She's the first person to testify in the very first trial.
01:33:22.720And she testifies as a less lethal officer who fired at this individual that was on trial at that time.
01:33:31.180And this is what she said, and this is what happened in the transcripts.
01:33:33.720The first thing before she faced direct examination from the government is the judge went to a sidebar and told both of the attorneys, said, now you know that there's some underseal aspects about this first witness.
01:33:57.660I thought, okay, I thought that was interesting.
01:33:59.860And so then direct examination starts and the prosecution asks her her name, spell your name, go through the whole process that they typically do.
01:34:06.740And one of his first questions was, of course, you know, where are you employed now?
01:34:10.480And she said, I still work for the government.
01:34:12.180He goes, oh, you're no longer with Capitol Police.
01:34:13.580She said, no, I left Capitol Police about six months after January 6th.
01:34:17.620He said, did you leave under good circumstances?
01:34:21.380In fact, I had already applied for my current position in the government before January 6th.
01:34:29.180Okay. That's interesting. Then it's time for cross-examination. The judge hits the button
01:34:36.020again, calls another sidebar, and he says to the defense attorney, don't you go waving
01:34:42.800Ms. Kirkoff's 302s around this courtroom. That's the FBI investigation forms. That's
01:34:49.820what FBI 302 is. And now I'm like, my radar is pinging off the charts. So I have to know
01:34:57.660who this person is. So, I have sources at ODNI, and that's how this whole element of the story
01:35:07.460comes into it, is that I took the information that I had, and I received assistance from ODNI
01:35:13.840that helped me identify her as a current CIA employee. What does she do at CIA?
01:35:19.940What I was told by ODNI is that she was on the equivalent of a dignitary protection type detail where she could possibly be accompanying Director Ratcliffe and other dignitaries around, armed.
01:35:39.980She protects John Ratcliffe, the director of the CIA?
01:35:43.820I'm just telling you that her jobs description, as it was relayed to me by ODNI, was that she was on that detail.
01:35:51.940And she could be one of the people that protect Ratcliffe.
01:36:22.940It was her college career-ending injury in her fourth year, fourth season.
01:36:27.140She broke her tibia in half on her right leg in a game.
01:36:33.480And then we found videos after recovery and therapy.
01:36:37.400She played a year of minor league ball for Columbus Eagles, and I see her walking across the field, and she's dragging her right leg in a manner that would be typical for somebody with that exact injury, with what they call a circumduction move, where the dragging the right foot in front of the left foot.
01:37:07.400And I've seen more of the pipe bopper video than anybody. And I've seen it over and over and over and over again. I've watched my 20 minutes of video. I've spent dozens and dozens of hours watching it. And I went, you've got to be kidding me.
01:37:30.420So you hadn't had that in mind. You hadn't thought.
01:37:32.500No, I was investigating the illegal, improper use of less lethal weapons used against the January 6th crowd.
01:37:43.080And you find out that one of the people you believe was using these weapons illegally winds up at CIA, to which she had applied before January 6th.
01:38:40.700And then what we did because of this evidence, we started looking at her as a Capitol Police officer.
01:38:46.560And we found two and a half hours-ish of video of Ms. Kirkoff as a Capitol police officer from the Capitol CCTV video archives from January 5th and January 6th.
01:39:00.320We have her running all over the Capitol in both days, the 5th and the 6th, as a police officer.
01:39:05.500So we have tons of video of her, and she has that gate.
01:39:11.000So, is there any way to, I mean, you know, there's all kinds of biometric software.
01:39:17.040Is there a way to, you know, bring science to bear on this question?
01:39:22.420So, I took it to a source of mine within the intelligence community who I've not named and will not name ever.
01:39:30.800um this source can come forward if they desire to at any point in this uh defamation trial if
01:39:40.880they choose to come forward but i will not out them and this in this source uh is a let's just
01:39:50.140say 30 year career in the community an expert in gate recognition and also an engineer in
01:40:00.780And this person ran the gate recognition for me, came back to me with a 94% hit. So I turned over as much video of the hooded January 5th pipe bomber and Ms. Kirkoff's footage, both as a soccer player and as a Capitol Police officer.
01:40:24.140The software came back with a 94% hit, but the expert analysis, human analysis, was 98% match.
01:40:35.500So when I'm asked, how sure am I that she's the bomber, I'm 94 to 98%.
01:40:41.540So, pardon my ignorance, is gate recognition software commonly used by Intel or law enforcement agencies?
01:40:49.720As a matter of fact, the FBI used gate recognition technology to disclude a January 6th pipe bomber.
01:40:58.520They had, as one of their persons of interest, a gym owner over in Virginia across the river who had, believe it or not, an odd gate.
01:41:09.600but more importantly had a receipt for having purchased the identical type of rare Nike
01:41:16.900collectible shoe that the bomber was wearing that night. Nike Air Max Speed Turf 2018 edition
01:41:23.400is what the bomber was wearing in a very specific color scheme, gray, gold, and black.
01:41:29.600And he had a receipt for having purchased this. So they ran gate recognition on him
01:42:15.800Was she ever, did she ever come up as a suspect in this?
01:42:19.000So, when I discovered all of this, I took this information to my sources at ODNI and all hell broke loose.
01:42:27.640So, following the law, following procedure, Tulsi had a special group called the DIG, the Director's Initiative Group, which was shut down and dissolved because of this story.
01:42:44.040The people that worked in the dig that assisted in this story and looked at the evidence were demanded by CIA to come in to Langley for four-hour sit-down interviews and polygraphs.
01:42:57.360And they told them, you know, bite me.
01:43:00.180It's like you forget that Odie and I, we oversee you.
01:44:29.340Now, this was just a draft memo. It had never been complete. Still had the yellow, you know, markings on the memo. Had not been approved for distribution, but the deputy director of ODNI, I call it a leak. It's not. It's, you know, it was a pass along to the deputy director, Ellis, of CIA before the draft memo was complete.
01:44:55.660This was done before our story about Ms. Kirkoff was published on November 8th of last year.
01:45:03.260So this draft memo was being circulated.
01:45:05.400It was given from the deputy director, Tulsi's deputy director, to deputy director of CIA, who gave it to FBI, who gave it to the White House, and leaked it to the press.
01:45:18.660The White House had it the day before our story came out.
01:45:22.480two days before our story came out miss kirkhoff's partner gets a call from the fbi and said oh we're
01:45:30.040going to raid your house tomorrow morning now they got a 12-hour advance notice that their house was
01:45:34.000going to be raided that's not standard operating procedure by the way so on the morning friday
01:45:42.420morning november 7th fbi shows up and they're there all day now i have no idea that the fbi
01:45:48.760I was raiding Ms. Kirkoff's house, but what I learned was from one of my Capitol Police sources,
01:45:53.820it was about one or two o'clock in the afternoon, hey, your girl, her house is being raided right
01:45:59.240now. And so, we sent our, I was still with a blaze at the time, and so our acting editor-in-chief
01:46:07.360at the time, Chris Bedford, lived in Alexandria where Kirkoff lives. And so, on his way home,
01:46:15.200he drove past the house and sure enough they're all out there got uniformed and plain clothes
01:46:20.600individuals local cops fbi are all milling around that house this is the day before our story came
01:46:28.040out that night miss kirkhoff at 8 p.m by a very high-ranking fbi um individual who i still don't
01:46:37.020know who it is but our attorneys know who it is through discovery that i've not seen yet um
01:46:41.760told her that we need you to come in for a polygraph and that and what they told her was that
01:46:49.800look it's gonna you're gonna spend more time in the drive downtown you know the fbi headquarters
01:46:57.160and the drive back then you're gonna you know spend being interviewed well that wasn't true
01:47:01.620she ended up being interviewed and polygraphed for four hours didn't get back home till after
01:47:05.720midnight but what we then learned months later was that she failed that polygraph not only did
01:47:14.020she fail the polygraph she was admonished by the polygrapher the the uh examiner admonished for her
01:47:23.600rehearsed answers to the questions and the questions pertain to the pipe bombing directly
01:47:29.620the questions were or did you plan how do you know that she failed the polygraph uh it uh so
01:47:35.580So in the Brian Cole Jr. case, now you asked earlier, how did Brian, how did this investigation suddenly get ignited again?
01:47:42.120Five days after I named Ms. Kirkhoff as the potential bomber based on forensic science, gate recognition technology, suddenly outside of Brian Cole Jr.'s house in Woodbridge, Virginia, is a FBI surveillance team.
01:50:43.400But I also don't, you know, I don't know.
01:50:45.540I mean, just be, you know, I don't know, I don't know anything, uh, which is why I'm grateful you're here. So, okay. So you write a piece saying that it looks like this Kirchhoff woman could be the person, her date, her gate is basically identical. Yes. Um, she meanwhile works in a protective capacity at CAA, possibly for the director himself. Crazy, crazy town. Um, what is her response to it? She denies it?
01:51:12.340Well, you know, one of the things that I've been criticized greatly over in me and my team and my writing partner, Joe Hanneman, is that we never reached out for comment to Ms. Kirkhoff.
01:53:05.780So I notified my editors, they made the note, you know, to the story, and then everything continued to blow up.
01:53:16.580Now, fast forward six months later, and I have sat down with, for many, many hours, a current existing CIA employee who has also become a whistleblower, but he still has his job, and he has held Ms. Kirkoff's files in his hands.
01:53:35.780And he said, that Sunday morning call that you got saying that she was a campus security officer at CIA, that's a lie.
01:53:42.000And he goes, you know, that's what we do for a living, right?
01:53:54.520Did you call Dan Bongino or Kash Patel to ask their view?
01:53:58.820Well, you know, I have reached out to Bongino on many occasions, and this is part of the story is that in my reporting about the new FBI, I've been very critical of them, especially after their abandonment of the whistleblowers, because that was one of Patel's promises was that they were going to make the whistleblowers whole.
01:54:17.640They were going to make the whistleblowers.
01:54:19.060And we're talking about the whistleblowers that had whistleblown about the COVID regime, about the mandates related to that, about January 6th.
01:54:26.240The guys that were told to go out and SWAT raid grandmas for misdemeanor offenses, something the FBI had never done in its 100-year history of the agency, the Bureau.
01:54:37.060and and so um i'd become very critical and five times that i know of and i only know this because
01:54:44.880the executives at the blaze related to me five times individuals from the seventh floor of the
01:54:52.740fbi the hoover building called my bosses to try to get me fired at the blaze what yes who do you
01:55:00.220know who called from fbi dan bongino called twice he was the first one that i was trying to get you
01:55:03.800fired? Yeah. Well, first of all, to complain. Then it escalated from there. Did he call you?
01:55:09.820No, didn't. No. Bongino and I, Bongino gets my DMs because he told my bosses that he
01:55:19.260reads my DMs. That's why I know he gets them. And he's famously blocks people on his, you know,
01:55:25.500X account. He's never blocked me, but he's criticized me. He's the one who told Thomas
01:55:32.340Massey that he would personally write the check for the defamation lawsuit from Shani
01:57:59.800You know, he famously criticized Massey, you know, in this tirade.
01:58:03.380He went on like a, you know, four-day tirade against Massey.
01:58:05.540And one of the things he was criticizing Massey for is that Massey wouldn't accept his invitation to come down to the Hoover Building and see their evidence against Brian Colgene.
01:58:12.980No, no, Dan is working to cover up, you know, the activities of the permanent government.
01:58:19.060It's just, I just have never seen anyone change that much or be that afraid.
01:58:24.120I mean, he was going to have a heart attack.
02:03:08.260And in that, we found where she and her partner had adopted an adult greyhound down in Florida.
02:03:14.800And brought it home one month before January 6th.
02:03:19.060And we also found the five-star review that Ms. Kirkhoff had given her dog sitter, dog walker.
02:03:27.080And again, references only the one dog, the one adult dog by name.
02:03:32.460And they didn't know that we'd been able to find these things.
02:03:35.080And so as soon as that came out, even though I was under a gag order now from the blaze and I couldn't publish anything about Ms. Kirkhoff directly, I released those photos for proxies.
02:03:44.800who put it out on the web. So suddenly they were embarrassed that it wasn't puppies and three FBI
02:03:50.780sources, right? These are not people that are going to get the, are going to get wrong between
02:03:55.840puppies and a dog. So it goes from, she was playing with her puppies to caring for her dog.
02:04:02.240And then the lawsuit comes out and the lawsuit says, well, okay, it wasn't either one of those
02:04:06.620things. There's a video of the dog sleeping on the couch and you can hear her voice in the
02:04:12.940background off camera and we've only ever seen a screenshot of the dog on the couch but nobody
02:04:19.920has seen the video meanwhile uh you know there are a bunch of news stories attacking you for
02:04:26.900impugning her character when there's video evidence proving her innocence but it turns out to be a
02:04:31.820little bit more complicated than that i guess it's much more complicated than that i mean first of
02:04:35.640all, Brian Cole is not the bomber. Brian Cole cannot be the bomber. We've made famous by his
02:04:46.640pseudonym. His name is Armitus. And he is also an individual on the spectrum, highly motivated
02:04:58.660on the pipe bomb story. He and I met a couple of years ago through this story. And then he began
02:05:04.340working with our team on the video examination, and he's obsessed with this. And one of the things
02:05:11.260that he has been able to discover, and I love his quote, is he says that Brian Cole Jr.'s body is
02:05:19.020his alibi. We know, because I've been on my hands and knees inside Rumsey Court, measured the bricks
02:05:27.420in the alleyway behind the RNC. We have a clear shot of the shoe, the foot that the hooded bomber
02:05:35.980is wearing. The heel is on the line of a brick. That shoe crosses the first brick, the second
02:05:42.980brick, and less than half of the third brick. That's a nine to a nine and a half at the most
02:05:49.200of that particular shoe. Now, why do I know that? It's because I've purchased three pairs
02:06:27.960As I mentioned earlier, the demographic known for giving the highest rate of false confessions to law enforcement are autistic individuals.
02:06:36.420They had him in an interrogation for two hours with no attorney present.0.65
02:07:34.880The Irish Troubles was where he was motivated.
02:07:39.620And he says, or they say that he said in the confession that he hated both the left and the right.
02:07:45.480He hated both parties and that that's why he planted the devices at the RNC and the DNC.
02:07:53.120There's one problem with that is that there were two other potential drop sites because we know from the video evidence that one of those sites was the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and the bomber changed their mind.
02:08:06.200Another site was an actual housing unit that houses Congress members and Congress staff members.
02:08:13.360Those were the two other locations where the bomber stopped and chose not to, and then eventually settled on the DNC and the RNC.
02:08:26.140As I said, there's so many details, and they're all running through my mind, but I want to give you something that we've never released before, and I got permission from the attorneys to give this to you.
02:08:34.500This was something that Armitas, our video examiner, found, is after thousands of hours of watching these videos of the bomber, walking through Rumsey Court for the first time, because this kid, our guy, he watches, you know, the first time he watches a pixel set, then the next time he watches another pixel set, and then he's that obsessed with the videos.
02:08:57.460But that obsession led him to finally see a smartwatch flash on the bomber's wrist.
02:09:08.440After years of watching the same video over and over and over again and never noticed it, all of a sudden, the smartwatch flashes.
02:09:15.640This is the January 5th hooded pipe bomber.
02:09:20.500He tells us about it, so me and now, my whole team, all of us go all in back to the videos again.
02:09:26.020And suddenly, what we thought were arm stretches and, you know, other motions that the bomber was just making during the stroll, the bomber's talking into their wrist at least five times that we can count.
02:09:42.800One problem with that is Brian Cole Jr. has never owned a watch, never worn a watch, much less acquired a smart watch and learned to talk into it on the night of the distribution of the pipe bombs.
02:11:11.820But with the feet out like this, whereas the bomber walks like this with a pigeon-toed right foot, circumduction, planting it in front of the left foot.
02:12:46.700As a matter of fact, there was a new whistleblower that came forward as a direct result of this case.
02:12:52.220An FBI whistleblower that I mentioned earlier.
02:12:54.060This whistleblower, FBI agent, lives just down the street from the Cole family.
02:13:01.300This whistleblower has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, has seen Brian Cole Jr. walking his dog twice a day, three times a day, him and his wife, hundreds, thousands of times over 10 years.
02:23:51.660And then we also found the, I was given the internal memo that HSI put out to all of their employees, you know, talking about the, you know, their colleague who had passed away suddenly and that there were going to be a memorial, you know, get together at a bar for, you know, celebration of life memorial.
02:24:08.800And then since then, I have also, through my other sources in the IC, have had questions asked within the Fairfax County Department.
02:24:29.840So the reason why we've not gone forward with a story about this is there's just way too many things to, you know, there are elements missing from this to make a conclusion.
02:24:40.280But the bottom line is, is the guy within the community with the power and the investigative authority and the tools and the personnel to investigate this case is dead.