Steve Bannon Responds to Being Ordered to Prison
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You hear a lot from the people who run Washington, D.C., about the rule of law and its importance, but of course the law unevenly applied is not justice, it s tyranny. And tyranny is by definition tyranny. So with that in mind, we wanted to talk to former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon before he goes to prison in just a few days, and we were honored to have him join us on the Tucker Carlson Show to talk about what it means to be a political prisoner, and how he s willing to serve his country in prison, even if it means going to prison for a little bit. This episode is brought to you by TheTuckerCarlson Show, where we bring you stories that have not been showcased anywhere else, and they re not censored, of course, because we re not gatekeepers, we re honest brokers here to tell you what we think you need to know and do it honestly. Check out all of our content at tuckerclanson.co/tuckercarlson on all matters relating to the podcast, including the latest episode of The Tucker Carlson Show, wherever you get your news and opinions from around the web, and don t miss it! Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms wherever you re listening to this stuff is available, to get notified when we post a new episode of the show hits your favorite streaming platform. Subscribe and share it so you can be sure to stay up to date with the latest in our most authentic and authentic content. . Thank you for listening to Tucker Carlson's work. -Tucker Carlsonson the Tucker Carlonsonsonson and the Tucker's new book, "Tucker's Notebook" is out now! -The Tucker Carlson Show is out on all major podcasting platform? Check out Tucker's newest podcast, "The Tucker Cullson Show" is out! Subscribe on Podchaser Podcasts by clicking here: Learn more about Tucker's latest book "The Tucker's Guide to the Rule of Law and Culture" by Tucker's New York Times , "The White House Correspondent's Guide" by Tom Connolly "Thank you, Tucker's Guide by Tucker Carlson, "Mr. Carter" by , "The Other Way" by "The Irishman" by John Rocha
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welcome to the tucker carlson show we bring you stories that have not been showcased anywhere else
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at tucker carlson.com here's the episode you hear a lot from the people who run washington about the
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rule of law and its importance but of course the law unevenly applied is not justice it's by
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definition tyranny so with that in mind the following back in 2012 12 years ago u.s attorney
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general eric holder was held in contempt of congress after refusing to provide justice department
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documents detailing the obama administration's handling of the fast and furious scandal you may
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remember all of this so that happened holder cited executive privilege as many have before
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to justify withholding these communications protecting them because they were executive
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branch communications for that he was held in criminal contempt but it was meaningless nothing
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ever happened to eric holder in fact he became even more popular in washington his cocktail schedule was
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not interrupted even for a day the u.s attorney in dc cited the country's long-standing practice of not
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enforcing contempt charges to let holder off scot free because again he invoked executive privilege
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and that's a constitutionally murky area no one has ever been prosecuted for it of course the justice
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department which holder led refused to prosecute him and then barack obama invoked executive privilege
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to protect him as well so that's what happened then so fast forward 11 years and steve bannon tried
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roughly the same thing bannon of course was president trump's former chief political strategist
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and he was ordered after he tried it to report to prison by a federal judge in fact he's going at the
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beginning of next month he was convicted on two counts of contempt why because he did what eric holder did
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and defied a congressional subpoena from a committee in this case the january 6th committee and he did what
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holder did he invoked executive privilege but it didn't work because he is not eric holder
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he is a republican affiliated with donald trump so we wanted to talk to steve bannon before he goes to
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prison in just a few days from now and we're honored to have him join us steve thanks so much for coming
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on tucker thanks for having me on pretty good pretty good uh pretty good summary well and i won't even
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i think that's all very well known i just wanted to make certain that people understood precisely what's
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going on which is you are being prosecuted you were prosecuted now you're being persecuted for
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your politics but first a personal question i just read this morning um you saying you're fine with
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it you're not afraid for most people going to prison is the scariest possible thing that could happen
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that's why it's a punishment um how do you feel about it and why are you calm
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i spent in my 20s i spent uh what almost four years on a navy destroyer
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in the uh north arabian sea persian gulf western pacific south china sea so in my 20s i uh served my
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country on a navy destroyer in my 70s i'll serve my country in a federal prison it doesn't make any
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difference but it won't change my life one way i don't have a big social agenda i'm dedicated
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to this work of saving my country and if uh if i have to be a political prisoner i'll be a political
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person the one just a couple things of what you said in the open remember these this is a
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misdemeanor when we're we were in the federal courthouse the guy that ran the federal courthouse
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said as and this is in dc he said and i think he'd been there 30 or 40 years he told one of my guys he
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had never remembered a misdemeanor ever being prosecuted he says they're so backed up with
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felonies and that's why half the felony three quarters of felonies get settled out of court they
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just don't there's no time he said he's never seen a misdemeanor ever gone to trial uh particularly
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immediately they remember this a criminal charge not civil you could charge somebody civilly
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and uh and and like in peter navarro uh my uh my colleague and brother he's down in a federal
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prison in uh in miami i don't know if they've ever had a misdemeanor folk if someone there and peter's
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the same way it's it's a misdemeanor so they did this remember president trump invoked executive
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privilege sent my lawyer a letter on advice at council my lawyer told me flat out uh executive
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privilege has been uh been exerted so just you just stand down and uh he would handle that uh and
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we had three things that we argued in the in the court the three things are up on appeal still
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back at the dc circuit maybe en banc maybe to the supreme court which my lawyers are figuring out
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here in the next couple of days but it's not just exertion executive privilege and the lock of
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voli or depending on my counsel because my counsel was absolutely adamant that had been exerted and uh
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and i couldn't respond even if i wanted to it's also the structure of the committee the difference in
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holder is that and you see now in washington this kind of firestorm over the last couple of days it's
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the very structure of pelosi's committee because in in watergate and iran contra you had these
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committees set up and you had a ranking member and you had minority council and and that causes the
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tension and drama in these committees the the minority council gets all the testimony you get all
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the evidence and you can do cross-examination that's one of the reasons tucker i think even with the
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abc tv producer that came in the january 6th thing kind of flopped because cassie hutchinson couldn't
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be you know nancy pelosi when jim banks the great jim banks and and jim jordan were the two they're
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supposed to be on there and nancy pelosi told told mccarthy no and kevin for whatever reason just
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agreed to that and that's why they never had a committee you just had you had crying kinzinger
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and you had cheney who have both been outed from congress were the republicans everybody else
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there was no ranking member soon she saw jim banks's name who will soon be in the u.s senate
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from indiana and jim jordan who's head of judiciary she just told him no and for every strategic reason
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they made they went along with it so the other challenge i've got is the very structure of the
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committee which the trial judge kind of struggled with so i believe that has to go the supreme court
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you know also i'm prepared to because i pay all my legal bills i've never asked anybody to pay
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you know set up a legal fund i pay all my bills but i'm prepared and i've told my team
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regardless what it costs i'm prepared to go to the supreme court on the executive privilege on
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lacavola and on the structure of the committee which i think may be of all the issues because
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the defense of counsel is a technical thing for the lawyers that needs to be solved in this circuit
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the two most important are executive privilege but the most important to me still is the structure
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of this committee was a legitimate committee and you see what the videos you got the last couple days
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of nancy pelosi saying you know is her responsibility of the national guard this is why we need a
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complete and thorough investigation uh by the house into the january 6th committee exactly what
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went on you know was it a fed surrection was it not a fed surrection what are the details and what did
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the january 6th committee know about it because we've you know if you follow darren beattie in revolver
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news every day it's another every couple of days you get information that was suppressed
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uh from the committee as john solomon and these investigative reporters keep breaking so i think
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there'll be a lot more of this but july 1st hey i serve my country on a navy ship i'll serve my country
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as a political prisoner uh in a federal prison for a misdemeanor it doesn't i don't bat one eye
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whatever whatever it takes to win this revolution we got to do but you're you did serve your country
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in the u.s navy you're now being betrayed and persecuted by your country there's no fair person could i
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don't think could conclude anything but that not not our country tucker no our country our country
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the guys that listen to you and support you we're being we're being suppressed by it we're being
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oppressed by an illegitimate regime yes that you serve power here and that's what we have to break
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and and look i don't need to tell you they're on you every day as you know they're on everybody that
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stands up that's what they that's what they've tried to do this illegitimate regime regime is trying
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to persecute not just president trump they're going to send him to prison on july 11th they may defer
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that but they're going to give him a prison sentence uh as they've given rudy giuliani either
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bankruptcy or de-platforming or are taking your law license away or are putting people in prison
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that's what they're doing and we have to stand up to it that's why i would never give them i would
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never give them you know you see mccabe on tv wetting himself every night about oh when these
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people get back in power they're going to come after us you're damn right we're going to come after
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you within the rule of law because that's how we'll bequeath a constitutional republic to our
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children and grandchildren but no i don't bat an eye it's impossible they will never break me
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ever and uh i i quite frankly will be just as proud to serve my nation as a political prisoner in a
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federal prison for a misdemeanor uh by nancy pelosi as i was to serve my nation on that destroyer has it
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i mean the timing of this so four months starting july 1st i mean they're they're taking you out of
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rotation for the election i mean that's clearly part of the calculation here no they did it in
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2020 also remember in 2020 right at the very they the southern district in europe dropped this bogus
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uh we build the wall which not only did i never take a penny actually put money in um i had a i had
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a contract a management contract a consulting contract totally bogus they did that and they did
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that um they did that because the rumor was out there which was you know i had some truth to it some of
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the big donors wanted me to step into the campaign and take it back over like i did in august of 16
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there was a lot of concern about was the campaign not that they couldn't get out to vote where they
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could could they actually close it uh i was in discussions i've been in discussions since may
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with people about stepping back in and taking the campaign so they did this in 2020 and now they're
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doing absolutely the timing of this is to take me out july 1st and i come back a couple of days
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they want to silence the war room and they're petrified uh not that i would come back to the
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campaign i think the campaign is doing a really good job but they want to take out another voice
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like they want to take you out they they want to look they're liquidating alex jones's complete
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media operation they're after you non-stop they want to shut down the war room look these people
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these people play hardball and i hope republicans understand that the reason we got in this situation
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was these kind of establishment republicans that that were controlled opposition the only thing these
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people understand is smash mouth now you have to play within the rules you have to play within
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the constitution and the rule of law but we can do a lot within that and that's why i think
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mccabe and these guys brennan mccabe clapper they're so absolutely worried because they understand we
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know the game president trump knows the game much better today and there's going to be real
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accountability come 20 november of next year um speaking of republicans and the false opposition
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that they put up um i have a list of republicans who voted to hold you in contempt a vote that led to
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your prison sentence uh and it's people some people you'd expect fred upton liz cheney
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weepy kinzinger nancy mace also has she called you to apologize she's actually been on the show a
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couple times look i i can um i can to win i can put a lot behind me i think it's one of the reasons
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she's had a little bit of problem getting the traction she needs down in her primary uh of which
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i hope she wins the primary i think she made a mistake i think she knows she made a mistake she
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she's come a long way since then she really backed us she was part of this the whole uh you know part
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to overthrow the uh the mccarthy uh speakership i think she's been pretty tough but i don't i don't
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hold grudges against which way people vote i understand what's going on here as you do i mean
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this is an illegitimate regime of neo-marxists uh from the justice department to the fbi the wall
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street crowd you can see this everywhere in our society the attacks on the family and they play for
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keeps and i'm i'm so glad that in the alex joneses and the tucker carlsons and particularly since
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you've had the opportunity to leave fox uh ourselves and so many others now understand that
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this is a war to the knife right we have to win this if we don't win this this country is going to
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devolve into some kind of neo-marxist uh totalitarian regime of which it's pretty far down the road
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right now that's why i don't fear going to prison right i i know it's going to take my voice off the
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the war i'm still going to go on and i keep saying it's next man up you can't lean on trump you can't
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lean on tucker you can't lean on bannon you can't lean on alex jones this is a populist revolt you have
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to step up and do it yourself you have to dive in more you have to do uh more uh media sharing you
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know become a force multiplier so i i'm pretty uh happy with where the show is right now what the
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audience is going to do with the team that we've got but it's clearly the plain smash mouth and i just
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think we have to wake up and the and the jim banks's of the world and the jim jordans and the
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and the speaker johnson's you have to understand we're in a political war in an information war
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and you got to start fighting like you're in a war i mean i have to say and i'm not trying to rub it in
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or make you feel bad but it's if you just take three steps back the fact that they're putting
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people in prison men in their 70s you and navarro but others lots of others people in prison
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for defying them politically i mean that is not the country that we grew up in do you ever
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sort of wonder where you are i think like you i've seen this coming for a couple of years
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you know i was able to work with andrew breitbart when and when you started daily caller andrew started
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breitbart i think at the time we had an inkling when when obama said fundamentally transform the united
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states i think we had an inkling withholding these guys but it took really president trump as as kind of
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the a someone the people that could rally around to understand that the managed decline of our
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country was more than just happy you know more than just a campaign slogan it's real and i think
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that's you know i keep saying trump's win in 16 was providential because i was there we had a we had a
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man we had a mission we had a plane we had a message we didn't have much we didn't have a lot of
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money and and not a lot of organization um and we kind of that was divine providence we won but i tell
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people it's also divine providence it's providential that we lost in 20 that was stolen and the reason
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was you know up until then you kind of thought democrats and they had different ideas on taxes
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they had different ideas maybe on certain social programs or education programs but it's not true
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they are literally a neo-marxist revolutionary group that wants to fundamentally change this country and now
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they have the power of of of big tech the lords of easy money hollywood uh the universities uh both
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high culture and low culture uh in the political apparatus they're going to they're going to destroy
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the american republic that we grew up with and this is a war that is a war and you know i'm going to go
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in for a while as a as a prisoner of war i'm a political prisoner you say you're shocked about it
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in one regard i would be shocked about it but this is the least they want to put trump in in prison for
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hundreds of years they want to destroy one of the greatest americans in our country rudy giuliani i
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mean bankrupting destroying they're playing smash mouth the republicans don't even conceive of that
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that's why in this trump movement when we start talking about judgment days five november and
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accountability day is after president trump takes his hand off the king james bible at high noon on the
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20th of january 2025 mccabe's on tv every other night mccomey's on tv all the time this is so
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terrible we're having conversations when we have to leave the country well hey leave the country but
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we have extradition treaties with everybody and the long arm of american justice is going to get you
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and fetch you back here because one thing i can tell you with president trump's second term
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there is going to be accountability not retribution not revenge he's got the border to shut down mass
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deportations he's got to stop these endless wars particularly in the ukraine uh he's got to stop
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this mad the madness of the spending and how we finance this government which is out of control and
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caused inflation but one of the most important things he has to do is deconstruct the administrative
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state and part of that is literally crushing the new purgatorian guard which is the deep state
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president trump will do this and i think we'll have a group of people around him that are going to be
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maniacally focused on to do it but until that time this is a war and a lot more people are going
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to go to prison a lot more people are going to prison than steve bannon
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tucker says it best their credit card companies are ripping americans off and enough is enough
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this is senator roger marshall of kansas our legislation the credit card competition act would help in the grip
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visa and mastercard have on us every time you use your credit card they charge you a hidden fee
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called a swipe fee and they've been raising it without even telling you this hurts consumers and
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every small business owner in fact american families are paying eleven hundred dollars in hidden swipe
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fees each year the fees visa and mastercard charge americans are the highest in the world double
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particularly doj and cia i think i think that's right that that's where the power is that's the
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guns are um that's where the budgets are so to to war room your show which has been
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very successful and is very influential can you have any effect on it from prison have you figured out a
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way to get your voice out well you can't you can't run you can't run your businesses from a federal
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prison but i'll stay in touch with the people all day long i have a great team and i've told them
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and yes and certain other guys hopefully well hopefully we'll play by the rules a little bit
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better but no i tell i tell guys i tell the men and women on my team it's time to step up it's like
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it normandy we just commemorate the 80th anniversary the people on the first wave half of them didn't get
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up to the up to the bulwark on the beach they were gone it was next man up the only reason they got
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off that beach is next man up american history is built upon next man up you can leave you're going
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to lose your best people going to lose your good people you lose the people in leadership you'll
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lose the people at the front of the phalanx you got to pick up the armor you got to pick up the
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spear and do it yourself this is going to be a very good exercise for us got to tell people
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you and i say it all the time you can't lean there's too much pressure on trump you can't lean on
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trump all the time you can't lean on tucker carlson you can't lean on alex jones steve bannon
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who named 20 50 30 40 james o'keefe you can't lean on them you have to step up and do it yourself
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that's what a populist revolts about and what they think is that that's an old school model if i can
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take out trump if i can take out tucker if i can take out rudy if i can take out alex jones i would
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take out steve bannon and cause the rest of them to all be worried about being debanked and
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deplatformed and spin their wheels there they win this is going to be a challenge to show if we win
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president trump donald j trump on the 11th of january if you think it's over the top the steve
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bannon for misdemeanors is going to a federal prison donald trump a guy that gave us four years of peace
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and prosperity or at least three years of peace and prosperity before we got hit with a chinese
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bioweapon uh he's going to be sentenced to years at rikers island now they're going to defer it or give
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him home arrest or make him a supplicant to judge mershant so that he can go you know he can go uh
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campaign to a limited degree but they're in a court in new york state are going to sentence a man who is
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president of the united states and gave us three of the best years of any president in our in this
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republic's history sentence him to prison on a case that's actually 10 times bigger joke than mine is
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uh so don't think that if they come for trump and get and sentence trump to prison with the
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billions he has and the contacts he has and the fact that he's been commander in chief and president
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and pretty damn successful they can come for anybody you don't think they can put anybody in prison
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uh and right now if you see what's happening in new york state and california and some of these states
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and cities the great cities like chicago with what they have running those cities the folks they got
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running it you better be prepared there's gonna be a lot more people than donald trump and steve
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bannett go to prison unless we stop it now and that's why when you have people like john yu and
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annie mccarthy particularly john yu who's no fan of president trump and certainly not maga when a guy
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like that that is smart as that and reason when he comes out in national review which is also not as
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you know a big trump supporting big maga supporting magazine when he comes out and literally lays out
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says we have a constitutional duty constitutional duty attorney generals and da's in the house
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to get in these democrats face and start indicting people he says if we don't do that the balance of
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the constitution will be totally gone we're going to lose the country so when a guy like john yu and
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then backed up by annie mccarthy when those guys are saying that over at national review you realize
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we've hit a tripwire so is there a point at which in the case of president trump where the case is so
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absurd and the penalties are just are a mockery of justice that you just say i'm not participating
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like come and get me i'm not playing your games i'm going to run for president as is my right as
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an american and be heard as is my right like i'm not i'm not playing along i think we may be there
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on the afternoon july 11th i mean i think people got to take a very deep consideration of this i think
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it's a gut check and i think people have to look and it particularly i think it's very important that's
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why you and mccarthy and others like that or matt walsh and even rich lowry other people have never
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been big mega supporters are now realizing this public or this republic we're we're right there
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right now um and i think it's going to be a gut check and i think people have got to be very
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reflective but off the the afternoon of july 11th if president trump gets a multi-year prison sentence
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and is put on hold uh maybe for his appeal but put on hold for for some time to give him home
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release or somehow they put restrictions on his ability to actually go out and campaign people
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got to start asking some very deep questions because the thing in new york new york was the
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show trial like moscow in the 1930s and if we're going to allow that to continue people people have
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to ask very deep questions so i think we're heading towards a constitutional crisis this country's never
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had before yeah and uh and that's one of the reasons i think i'm going to prison they want to send me
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to prison in july to make sure that the i think some of the strongest or more more aggressive of
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president trump's president trump's advocates are are taken off the uh are taken off the playing field
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i think that's right at some point you just have to say no no um last question so you you've got four
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months you're facing what do you plan to do with that time like what are you going to read what are
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you going to spend your time doing well i i you know i i have a pretty strict regimen as is so i'll
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continue on i i do a lot of uh spiritual exercises following uh saint ignatius loyal or you know
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different uh spiritual exercises come out of the catholic church although i'm a uh i'm a uh i i would
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actually say if you look at our lord and savior jesus christ i would call myself a pre-christian i
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wouldn't want to insult his name by saying i'm a christian given the i know the field the the very
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tough and high high standards so no that i that that issue and i'll obviously i i read a lot uh i study a
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lot i try to study every different type of thing that comes up that i am very curious so that won't
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be a problem i'll also communicate with my team and other people on the outside uh within prison
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regulations whatever those regulations are so i'll be fully occupied i work now i'm proud to work 18
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hours a day i have nothing else in my life going on except this so it won't stop and uh and we'll just
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continue to press on i've told my team the uh you know there can't be one drop in quality there
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can't be one drop in audience participation or impact and so it's on my team to do it and i'll
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hopefully be in a communication with those guys but i'm very confident we build a team up here that
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will continue on like i tell them it's next man up you you don't know if tucker carlson is going to
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be there tomorrow you're going to be rounded up you don't know if president trump's going to be
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by the way they could they could remand him to uh rikers that afternoon i think it'd be
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incredibly foolish and uh and and obviously a stretch even for those crazies but trump could
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be remanded to he could be remanded to prison that afternoon in fact if you look at tish james
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and rachel maddow and those people they've got that we'll all investigate when we take power as
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their participation in this if you look at weissman those guys they want him remanded on
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the afternoon july 11th they don't want him to go the republican convention stand on that stage and
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before the world take the nomination that was so hard fought for and really stand up and get it on
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with uh with biden one-on-one which i think right now this thing will be a blowout so uh no they're
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playing they're playing smashing look at rudy rudy giuliani one of the greatest mayors who've ever
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had one of the greatest americans and just an amazing guy to bankrupt him they want to jail him
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i think he's got sentences out there potential of 30 or 40 50 years tina peters you know a gold star
00:25:59.540
mother from from colorado i think she's looking at prison time on multiple felonies of i think 20 or
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30 years the 75 year old grandmother they just put in prison last week gave her two years of the
00:26:09.840
ill health at 75 years old gave her two years in a federal prison so these people won't stop at
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anything that whether you're a religious you're right now you're a religious individual uh whether
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you go to a traditional catholic mass uh church and you know that in richmond the fbi
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the richmond office that was the church my parents started that they started looking at
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my parents were very devout catholics and as soon as they were able to start a latin mass back in
00:26:37.200
the 70s in the in the art in the diocese they took a couple of the priests out of the monastery and
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they formed a latin mass that was that was the one of the churches that that was the one that gave
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the guys in the richmond field office because it's a very traditional very a blue collar tons of kids
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going to the military go the academies but really enlisting the marine corps and the navy and the
00:26:57.340
army uh and that's what the fbi is going after they're saying that they're building uh political
00:27:02.640
uh political extremist that this is where extremism is coming from your government has turned against
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you not our country the government a this illegitimate regime has taken over the apparatus
00:27:13.520
of the united states government and it's enforcing dictatorial power and we have to stand up for it just
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like the revolutionary generation stood up to the dictatorial power of the crown uh in the in people
00:27:24.020
like the british east india company what they hate most is christianity for sure well you're a brave
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and magnanimous man um and so god bless you good luck tucker thanks look forward to seeing the other
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