The Tucker Carlson Show - Steve Robinson Exposes the Chinese Mafia’s Secret Drug Empire in the US & the Politicians Involved

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00:00:14.360 We recently had a remarkable conversation with a man called Steve Robinson, one of the last

00:00:20.220 independent journalists in the state of Maine. And he told us a story that stunned us. It's about

00:00:26.180 the Chinese takeover, the takeover by Chinese drug cartels of the largest state in the Northeast.

00:00:33.020 It's a story about what happens when immigration laws are ignored, when state and local governments

00:00:38.240 failed to do their duty. We have a documentary out about this right now. It's on TCN. The

00:00:43.240 documentary is called High Crimes, the Chinese Mafia's Takeover of Rural America. It's shocking.

00:00:50.840 Watch it now. It's available only at tuckercarlson.com.

00:00:56.180 Thank you for doing this. You're the best journalist in Maine. You're one of about six

00:01:21.320 journalists in Maine. But if it weren't for you, I don't think anybody would have any idea

00:01:27.480 what was happening in the state of Maine. So let's go to the story that has kind of defined

00:01:33.700 your coverage over the last couple of years. And that is the, I don't think it's too strong

00:01:37.460 to say, the takeover of rural Maine by Chinese drug cartels. I want to stand back and let you

00:01:44.200 describe the scale of this and what it is. Well, I mean, it's shocking. I would say

00:01:49.840 there's probably 300 to 400 properties throughout the state of Maine that are under the control of

00:01:55.640 what the Department of Homeland Security under President Biden called Asian transnational

00:02:01.080 criminal organizations. Chinese Mafia, I think is a better term and an easier way to understand it.

00:02:07.100 This first came to light in the end of 2023 when a reporter from the Daily Caller News Foundation,

00:02:14.300 Jenny Tehr, who's a fantastic reporter, got a leaked memo that said, hey, there's 270 plus of

00:02:21.300 these sites in Maine and there's another 800 in other parts of the country. And that caught my eye.

00:02:26.140 I grew up in Maine, spent my whole life in Maine. And I figured if there were 270 sites in Maine where

00:02:32.800 this criminal activity was occurring, I would be able to find it. And so I contacted Jenny and I

00:02:37.980 worked with her and eventually got more information about some of these sites that she knew about,

00:02:43.720 identified the property owners, and we visited some of the sites, started identifying some of the

00:02:49.440 patterns. And I basically looked at every mortgage record for the past six or seven years in every

00:02:57.720 county in the state of Maine and all the electrical records for electrical upgrades, for commercial

00:03:03.960 grade power, which is required for these marijuana grows, some other financial records and mortgage

00:03:08.880 documents, and was able to identify well over 300 Chinese marijuana grows unlicensed operating in the

00:03:16.940 state of Maine just from looking at records and piecing the puzzle together and then decided I

00:03:22.160 need to go visit them to see what the story is and to confirm it. And so I drove, I mean, easily 10,000

00:03:28.300 or more miles around the state of Maine to very, very distant remote places, schools, factories,

00:03:34.560 former shoe factories, former scrap metal yards. You know, there's-

00:03:41.240 The detritus of the industrial economy.

00:03:43.020 Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's one of these next to my high school basketball

00:03:46.660 coach's house. One of these next to, you know, the guy who ended up marrying my high school

00:03:53.760 girlfriend. He's got a Chinese marijuana grow next to him. There's a Chinese marijuana grow next to

00:03:58.260 the first place that I got drunk with my high school friends. There's a Chinese marijuana grow

00:04:02.220 on my camp road that has since been busted. There's a Chinese marijuana grow on my dad's

00:04:07.440 road in St. Albans. They're everywhere. They're in former schools, former nursing homes.

00:04:12.220 And we were able to find them. It was easy to find. And it turned out that one of the first

00:04:17.620 things I would do when I showed up and scoped something out, I mean, you can smell it. You can

00:04:21.220 see the upgraded electrical work. You can see the license plate out front from New York City.

00:04:26.840 And you go and you talk with the neighbors and the neighbors, you know, you just knock on the door

00:04:31.140 and say, Hey, I'd like to talk to you about your neighbors. And they kind of get this look in their eye,

00:04:35.460 like, finally, like finally somebody wants to come like hear what we've been going through,

00:04:41.220 what we've been seeing. And they're eager to share their story. And the story is always that

00:04:46.020 in the middle of COVID, a young couple that spoke decent English, uh, were of Asian descent,

00:04:52.300 showed up, bought the house, came over, introduced themselves, uh, gave them a bottle of wine or a

00:04:57.460 bottle of cognac, uh, and introduced themselves and said, well, you know, we're getting away from

00:05:02.280 Boston or we're getting away from New York, uh, because of COVID. And, um, you know, this is

00:05:06.680 just going to be our family getaway. And then they never saw that couple again. And from then on,

00:05:11.300 it was a steady stream of, uh, other individuals of Asian descent who did not speak English,

00:05:16.740 uh, were not personable, seldom left the house. And every 30 to 40 days, a U-Haul would arrive

00:05:22.460 usually, um, at dark hours, you know, 3 AM, 4 AM and, uh, be there for about an hour and leave.

00:05:28.700 And then there obviously it was the smell of cannabis, very pungent and all the windows blacked

00:05:34.100 out and the electrical work and odd chemicals being dumped in the backyard and some other

00:05:39.040 indicators. Sometimes they would burn to the ground, uh, because they were trying to pass

00:05:42.780 through too much electricity through. But, um, it was, I guess it was a period of seven or eight

00:05:48.680 months I spent driving all around the state of Maine and seeing story after story after story and

00:05:54.120 interviewing all of these people and seeing how scared people were, how terrified people were.

00:05:58.700 How well known the story was amongst people.

00:06:01.520 Why were people afraid?

00:06:03.480 They were for a number of reasons. I think, I think there were some people who were afraid

00:06:07.780 of being, um, called racist. If they were.

00:06:11.940 Everyone in Maine is afraid of being called racist. I've noticed it's the main weakness of

00:06:15.660 the state, which is what I found was the exact opposite. I found that there, they were willing

00:06:20.560 to tolerate behavior from their Chinese neighbors that they would never have tolerated from Irish

00:06:26.680 or French or English neighbors. Like absolutely, you know, illegal dumping, uh, breaking the

00:06:31.880 transformer every other week and causing blackouts in the neighborhood. They would never have tolerated

00:06:35.760 this behavior from white neighbors, but because of this inclination to not be smeared as a racist,

00:06:41.960 they were willing to tolerate it. Um, but they were also scared because they knew the signs of

00:06:47.760 a criminal organization. You know, they knew, they knew what was going on and the marijuana economy in Maine is

00:06:54.460 big. It's bigger than blueberries, potatoes, and lobsters. Um, so there are enough people in the industry who are

00:07:00.740 talking about this. And so there was this kind of secret hidden knowledge of what was happening in this

00:07:05.700 state, but it was like, you can't talk about it. Um, I, I'm a little bit confused for a couple. I mean,

00:07:11.280 there's so many questions. I'm glad we have time. Um, Maine has effectively legalized marijuana.

00:07:18.420 Okay. So there are weed, um, and, and some kind of criminal enterprise has, has funded all these

00:07:24.660 weed dispensaries, medical marijuana dispensaries are in every town. They're the only new buildings in

00:07:28.940 most towns, as you well know. And the idea, the way that was sold, your dog's getting mad about this.

00:07:36.720 Yes. He's very, he's very upset with what's happening to Maine. The way this is, this was

00:07:41.780 sold to Maine voters was we're going to take the crime out of marijuana. Like we're going to regulate

00:07:48.440 it. It's going to, if you want marijuana, you want cannabis, you can go and get it. It's got no

00:07:52.920 weird chemicals. It's going to be safer. It's going to be safer. Yeah. And the tax money too. The tax

00:07:56.960 money is, our schools are going to be so much better. Our streets will be safer. There'll be so much

00:08:01.060 more revenue. No bigger group of liars than the marijuana peddlers. I have to, they're liars. I know a lot

00:08:05.860 of them are liars. Anyway, whatever. This is the opposite of what was promised, correct?

00:08:10.840 Yes. Uh, I think that there, we unintentionally created a system that was so ripe for exploitation

00:08:18.740 by criminal groups that you have to wonder if it was done intentionally.

00:08:22.660 So, because why would they, I mean, there's so much marijuana in Maine,

00:08:26.860 you know, everyone, you know, grows marijuana in Maine. Its value has fallen dramatically. I don't

00:08:32.520 know what they're selling an ounce of weed for right now, but like not, you can stuff your

00:08:34.860 mattress for it. $40 or $50. That's crazy. If it's triad weed. $40 or $50 an ounce. If it's

00:08:40.380 triad weed. I don't smoke marijuana, but I did as a child. In 1983, it was $100 an ounce. Yeah.

00:08:46.020 In 1983 dollars. So, it's dramatically cheaper than it ever was. So, why, what's the motive for

00:08:52.060 illegal weed grows? Well, they have the advantage of not paying taxes, no regulatory compliance.

00:09:01.140 They're not paying their labor a significant amount of money. They're using pesticides and

00:09:05.840 fungicides illegally that reduce their product loss. They can also export marijuana. About two

00:09:13.260 thirds of the product that they grow illegally leaves the state of Maine. Legal growers aren't

00:09:16.660 allowed to do that because it's not federally legal yet. So, they can sell into black markets like

00:09:22.080 New York for a period of time, which was a black market, you know, early on into Maine's

00:09:26.920 development of triad weed. Later, it was a gray market where they legalized it, but didn't really

00:09:31.420 have a formal system for the sale of marijuana products. So, anytime you can bring your product

00:09:36.540 from Maine to a black market state, you're going to get three or four times the price.

00:09:42.780 And this is something that a Chinese criminal organization can do, but the mom and pop trying

00:09:47.020 to run a cannabis edible store or whatever can't do. They can't export their product out of state.

00:09:51.600 So, if you have all these built-in cost advantages, you can get a significant amount of money off of

00:09:57.200 it. And they also consider it very low risk. And they were right to consider it low risk.

00:10:02.460 Because when the state of Maine legalized marijuana, just like what happened in Washington

00:10:06.300 State and in Oklahoma and in California, it creates, it changes the culture in law enforcement.

00:10:12.360 We sent a signal to law enforcement that marijuana was no longer a problem. It was legal.

00:10:17.620 People voted, stopped paying attention to marijuana. And cops who busted a significant

00:10:23.380 marijuana bust were kind of laughed at. Like, yeah, that's just pot. That's legal. Why are you

00:10:26.860 doing that? Fentanyl is the priority. And we also have all kinds of legal marijuana grows happening,

00:10:32.440 and that functions as camouflage for what the Chinese are doing. So, it might not be the most

00:10:36.580 lucrative activity, but it's pretty damn lucrative. But it's low risk, very low risk for them.

00:10:42.960 Because at worst, you know, they're gonna, you know, you're gonna get arrested, you're gonna get

00:10:47.720 mugshot taken, you're gonna get $2,000 bail, and you'll be released. And probably never have to

00:10:54.300 show up at court, go to New York, get a new driver's license with a new name, come back and

00:10:58.120 find a different marijuana grow to work at. So, really, no one suffers any consequences

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00:14:29.620 all around where you grew up. Where did you grow up, and what did your family do?

00:14:33.200 I grew up in Dexter, Maine. It's kind of in the center of the state, southwest Penobscot County

00:14:39.800 on the border of Somerset. And my mom worked in hospitals. She was a medical assistant. And my dad

00:14:46.620 worked for a period of time at Dexter Shoe until our good friend Warren Buffett bought it and closed

00:14:51.900 it and ruined the town of Dexter. And then he worked in car sales for pretty much the rest of my life.

00:14:57.000 Your father worked in the shoe plant? Your grandfather worked in the shoe?

00:15:01.460 Yeah, my grandfather also worked in the shoe factory as well. Yeah, Dexter Shoes, it used to

00:15:05.060 be a prestige brand, you know, probably 800 to maybe even higher than that if you include the

00:15:11.800 Milo factory. So probably well over a thousand union jobs making shoes. But Warren Buffett thought

00:15:19.300 that he could do it better.

00:15:22.420 Did he?

00:15:23.060 No.

00:15:23.320 And what happened to Dexter, Maine?

00:15:25.980 The town has collapsed. It's scary. It's sad. It's heartbreaking to return to. The public

00:15:32.800 school is the largest employer in the town. You know, my high school, or my Little League

00:15:39.120 baseball coach used to own one of the general convenience stores in town. Not anymore. It's

00:15:46.000 owned by a member of the Patel family. Crazy Bob's Discount Tobacco, also owned by a member of

00:15:52.260 the Patel family. Have they made it a lot better?

00:15:56.100 No. No.

00:15:57.920 Yeah, I knew that.

00:15:58.980 Yeah. I mean, there's, I think, seven Chinese marijuana grows that were operating in Dexter,

00:16:05.480 despite the fact that Dexter opted out of the state's legal programs. So these were

00:16:10.360 de facto illegal. You could look at them and tell that they were illegal, that they weren't

00:16:14.880 licensed because Dexter did not participate in that marijuana program. Yet for some mysterious

00:16:19.960 reason, the Dexter police know where they are and haven't taken any action on them.

00:16:24.880 Wait, so the town's economy collapsed when Warren Buffett came in and over time shut down

00:16:33.000 the factory. And then it was invaded by people from Asia who took over the businesses and then

00:16:41.500 started seven illegal marijuana grows. Seven in the town?

00:16:45.500 Didn't happen that fast. Didn't happen exactly that fast. So I think Buffett's acquisition of

00:16:50.880 Dexter Shoe was in like 96 or 97.

00:16:53.960 I remember it, yeah.

00:16:54.480 And it kind of, it limped along for a little while. And there were some other attempts.

00:16:59.200 There were some other businesses in Dexter. It was a town of about 4,000 people at the

00:17:02.780 time. I think it's now down to 3,500. But when I go home, I don't recognize anybody in

00:17:08.620 Dexter anymore. And, you know, my family, my friends, for the most part, have all moved

00:17:11.760 away. I see Dexter in the headlines a lot for fentanyl raids and busts. But the town has

00:17:19.240 really been hollowed out. And I think it was the collapse, the economic collapse and the

00:17:23.740 despair in the town just created low real estate prices for entrepreneurs from foreign countries

00:17:32.260 to take advantage of, yeah.

00:17:33.680 And just bleed it of whatever was left.

00:17:36.380 Yeah. And we've actually, we've, we, as in the United States, have created programs that

00:17:42.500 help them. We've taken money from United States taxpayers to help both the, I mean, we don't

00:17:48.840 necessarily need to need to get into the Patel Hotel cartel, but they're taking advantage of

00:17:53.500 small business administration loans. And it took until just recently with the election of Trump

00:17:57.400 to stop SBA loans to foreign nationals and non-citizens. I don't know why we were giving

00:18:03.020 SBA loans to, to non-citizens. That's interesting.

00:18:06.660 I just want to, because I'm familiar with what you're talking about. I just want to say emphatically

00:18:10.980 that there's been not only no improvement. So these stores, which are often, very often the

00:18:16.320 only store in a town. Best pizza, best pizza, coffee, the, the, you know, the centerpiece

00:18:22.200 of the town, it's the town common. It's the town hall. Yeah. Of course, everybody's there

00:18:26.040 and they've been taken over almost exclusively by foreigners from the subcontinent. And they

00:18:31.020 have, I've been to many of them. They've all gotten much worse, much worse selling drug

00:18:37.420 paraphernalia, just garbage products, hostile. Have you seen any improvement?

00:18:43.220 No. And they're, they're also, I mean, they're selling cannabis product derivatives that were

00:18:48.340 legalized by the farm bill that legalized hemp and unintentionally created this huge world of

00:18:55.200 dodgy, unregulated drugs that are available for minors. And in many instances, it's these specific

00:19:00.800 convenience stores that are selling these hemp derived products, which are, I guess, THC or

00:19:06.360 marijuana adjacent. We'll give you kind of the similar experience, but are wildly underregulated.

00:19:12.620 Unregulated and untested, dangerous.

00:19:14.960 Every illegal Chinese vape is for sale. I mean, it's, it's the most degrading thing I've ever

00:19:20.360 seen. It makes me want to get a gun every time I walk into one of these places. It's such a,

00:19:25.160 it's just parasitic behavior in the most obvious way and, and a hostile. So, and there's no,

00:19:31.160 there's, we, we have no, we have no immune system as a state to repel what's happening because

00:19:37.120 there's not enough capital to come in. There's no, there's no competitor to foreign money coming

00:19:42.720 in with an SBA loan and buying up Toots, Delicatessen, and Dexter. There's no one else

00:19:47.860 who could possibly buy that store. And there's no one, and there's no one who would want to,

00:19:51.060 frankly.

00:19:51.320 So I've seen, and I hate to get sidetracked, but I, it's, it's such, it's such a big

00:19:54.940 question in rural America who runs the general store, the convenience store, the gas station

00:19:59.800 store, whatever you call it. It's the, it's the center of every little town. And if all

00:20:04.560 of a sudden in the space of five years, they're all run by non-citizens from India and they're

00:20:10.580 all getting worse and they're all engaging in business practices that are almost like

00:20:14.660 intentionally degrading of the people who live there. Like, no, we only sell generic cigarettes,

00:20:19.080 illegal Chinese vapes, and some kind of weird non-regulated narcotic and bongs and crack

00:20:25.580 pipes. That's literally what's happening.

00:20:29.300 And there's garbage piled up outside. I mean, the whole thing is like beyond belief. You have

00:20:35.860 to sort of wonder like, what actually is this? Are these incredibly profitable businesses?

00:20:40.120 This seems like a scam of some kind. But last thing I'll say, I know this for a fact, a lot

00:20:44.280 of these places, if you look at the tax records, they trade for, you know, 300 grand or something.

00:20:48.540 But most of the transaction is off the books in cash. So they're dodging taxes, actually.

00:20:54.260 And they shift around from one trust to another trust and then back to another trust. There's

00:20:58.580 very complicated, very complex financial schemes at play.

00:21:02.320 So what is, this is clearly a scam. This is a criminal scam. I don't think it's just in the

00:21:07.240 state of Maine. I think it's probably all throughout. I know it's in New Hampshire as well in Vermont.

00:21:11.240 What is this scam?

00:21:12.340 Well, they're certainly not making money off the hotels that they operate in the general

00:21:17.120 stores. If you look at a town like Lincoln, Maine, something similar has happened where

00:21:21.760 one family from away, from out of state, has come in and purchased competing rival gas stations.

00:21:29.960 But there's one gas station that's still owned by a local. And so naturally, the people who

00:21:34.360 know the guy who owns the store and don't know the guy who owns the other stores will go

00:21:38.340 and patronize the guy that they still know. So as business has declined to these other general

00:21:44.140 stores, somehow they're still thriving. And initially, their employees are locals and Mainers.

00:21:50.820 But then eventually, there's a new class of employees who are brought in, who are brought in

00:21:55.000 very likely on visas, who are also from away. So I think that if you look at some of the...

00:22:02.400 From India.

00:22:03.140 Yeah.

00:22:03.340 I think that if you look at some of the cases that have been filed, even under the Biden

00:22:07.520 administration, against operations that look a lot like what's happening in Maine, they're

00:22:12.180 immigration scams. They're using these businesses as a pretext to get SBA loans and also to get

00:22:19.320 access to visa programs so that they can sell legal entry into the country to people back in...

00:22:25.340 So they're selling those visas.

00:22:28.480 To be clear, I don't have proof that that's happening in Lincoln or Dexter, but there are

00:22:33.900 indictments in... There's one I know of very well in Texas where that's exactly what was

00:22:39.220 happening.

00:22:39.320 It's made every town where I've seen it, and it's a dozen or more, worse.

00:22:44.820 Yeah.

00:22:45.080 So that's kind of... Okay, there are a million scams, but if you roll into somebody's town

00:22:49.380 and degrade it on purpose and make it much worse, I think that's a moral crime. And there's

00:22:56.760 been no response at all. Okay.

00:22:58.080 Yeah. And I was actually... I was asked about a food pantry operation that they were trying to

00:23:04.180 set up in Dexter. They were trying to raise some money to help give out food to poor people. And I

00:23:11.280 asked how much of the new owners of Dexter Variety and Toots Delicatessen contributed to this

00:23:16.420 charity operation. Their new pillars of our community and small business owners, how much

00:23:21.040 have they given? And I was never given a very good answer on that.

00:23:23.620 Yeah, the answer is zero, of course.

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00:27:41.740 subsidizing this, what's happening here. The, the, about, I would say a third of the properties in the

00:27:49.660 state of Maine that would go on to become illegal Chinese marijuana grow houses were purchased using

00:27:56.240 mortgages through a program called the Community Development Finance Institution. It's a designation

00:28:02.060 that you give to banks. The entire purpose of the program is to help marginalized communities

00:28:08.540 access financing. The idea is that if you were an immigrant in the 1980s, 1990s, you couldn't prove

00:28:16.920 regular income. You had irregular finances and trouble accessing a mortgage. So they created this

00:28:22.520 special program to take away some of the risk from the lender. So there's one bank in New York,

00:28:27.620 Quantic Bank, that has the CDFI designation. And on their website, they advertise that they'll help

00:28:33.780 non-citizens, foreign nationals buy property in the United States. This bank advertised on-

00:28:39.900 I'm trying not to use the F word. Why would we be helping foreign nationals buy in places where

00:28:44.780 there's a housing crisis and the people who are born there can't find a house to live in? Like,

00:28:49.340 what is going on? And then why under COVID would we supercharge the program with an additional

00:28:56.200 transfer funding? Why would we put that program on steroids? I don't know. I know-

00:29:03.760 Because you want to kill the people? Because you want to kill and replace the people who

00:29:07.200 populate your country. That's why. Replace them with other people. Obviously.

00:29:10.380 Yeah. In looking at the mortgage records, having to actually look at the physical records themselves,

00:29:17.760 I cottoned on to this Quantic Bank pattern. And it's just a quirk of how the registry of deeds

00:29:25.460 records work that you can search by the lender. And so I searched Quantic Bank just to see,

00:29:31.080 did they loan to everybody? Or are they just suddenly a new domain? And I would say 95% of

00:29:39.160 their loans were post-2019 and exclusively to people with Chinese names from New York and from

00:29:45.740 Boston. And in further reviewing those records, I found that there were two individuals, two loan

00:29:51.200 officers who were originating almost all of those loans, 95% of those loans. And one was a Taiwanese

00:29:58.960 national and the other was a Chinese national who graduated from a university in China that's

00:30:03.580 affiliated with the PRC's Economic Warfare Program. And I actually got phone interviews with them.

00:30:08.560 They're on our X page. You can go listen to them. I asked Ying Chan Wang, I said, did you know that

00:30:12.420 these properties of all these loans that you're doing were becoming illegal marijuana grow houses?

00:30:17.980 She said, what? No, no way. Well, I'll have to say something about this. We'll have to put a stop to

00:30:23.100 this. Did they? I don't know. I'm unaware. I am unaware. I know that there's been a lot of

00:30:30.640 letters written by politicians about the CDFI program, about why we're doing this. But the

00:30:36.880 horses left the barn at this point. I mean, they have the properties now and they have the means to

00:30:42.240 generate as much cash as they want. This was a gold rush in Maine. That's what it was. When we

00:30:47.960 legalized marijuana, there was a vote in 2016, the state came out and said, yes, we want adult use

00:30:55.800 marijuana legalized. They formalized the program in 2020 and created an adult use program and a

00:31:01.480 medicinal program, which are very distinct. And the medicinal program is vastly under-regulated

00:31:07.860 compared to the adult use recreational program, which is counterintuitive. But the medicinal programs

00:31:13.880 like the wild, wild west. But when we did this, we created just a pig scramble for a $5 to $10

00:31:22.400 billion market for this drug. And the forces that we unleashed and the forces that were brought to

00:31:28.720 bear on Maine to access that money, we weren't prepared for. The local police weren't prepared

00:31:35.800 for it. The sheriffs weren't prepared for it.

00:31:37.860 Because they were told that this was going to solve the crime problem associated with illegal

00:31:42.860 drugs. If you legalize something, there's no more crime.

00:31:46.260 Yeah. In 2021 in Turner, Maine at 57 Conant Road, there's a hangar right next to Twitchell

00:31:53.280 Airport. It's a disused airport.

00:31:56.420 I know it.

00:31:56.880 The police have been there many, many times. We got police records from early 2021 where they

00:32:02.920 had been called there for what they were told was a hostage situation. And when the police show up,

00:32:07.860 there's Chinese individuals who only speak Cantonese running out in the woods, total chaos. They

00:32:12.520 can't really discern what exactly is going on, but it's a civil dispute and they decide it's not

00:32:16.420 their problem. But in their notes, they say that they believe it's the properties under the control

00:32:20.820 of a quote, Chinese gang from New York. That was in early 2021.

00:32:25.080 That was in their notes?

00:32:27.140 In the incident report.

00:32:29.280 They say that they believe-

00:32:30.080 Wasn't it their job to do something about it?

00:32:31.540 You think?

00:32:34.360 There's never been any arrests made in connection with that facility, which functioned according

00:32:39.760 to the state police as an illicit marijuana grow controlled by Chinese gangs from New York.

00:32:44.500 The Office of Cannabis Policy, which regulates all of this, has suspended numerous licenses

00:32:48.560 for Chinese marijuana growers from out of state who are affiliated with that property.

00:32:52.380 There's never been any arrests made at that property until December, last December, a guy

00:32:58.920 named William Robinson, no relation, was shot in the head there by a drug dealer.

00:33:05.320 And the guy who shot him was later, allegedly, was later arrested hiding at a marina in San

00:33:11.520 Diego.

00:33:11.800 You say there are, you believe, around 300 Chinese gang controlled drug operations in Maine.

00:33:22.480 There are grow houses, there are flop houses, there are prostitution houses masquerading as

00:33:30.680 massage parlors. There are some, I guess, financial hubs that you might say in Kittery and Old

00:33:38.900 Orchard Beach in southern parts of the state. There are other facilities that seem distinctly

00:33:46.000 militaristic to in character.

00:33:48.000 What does that mean?

00:33:49.980 Your hair stands up on end when you go by. I've knocked on the doors of a lot of marijuana

00:33:54.360 facilities, but in Greenbush, Maine.

00:33:58.000 Where's that?

00:33:58.880 It's about 35 minutes north of Bangor. Very rural. But there's an area where there are multiple

00:34:06.500 adjacent properties, all controlled, all fenced off, motion sensors on the road so that they

00:34:12.640 know if someone's coming well in advance. And blue-collar workers I've talked with who

00:34:17.800 have had to come out and do some service at those properties have talked about being surveilled

00:34:22.920 by crews of eight young Chinese men, close crop haircuts, fatigues.

00:34:29.360 Fatigues?

00:34:31.360 What there was described to me as fatigues. Standing around the perimeter of the property

00:34:35.900 and when they need to access the property to do some load testing, if they're, for example,

00:34:40.960 an electrical worker, they're physically stopped and prevented from accessing the property and

00:34:46.520 they're escorted off the property and two crisp $100 bills tucked into their back pocket and

00:34:51.420 they say, coffee money, coffee money, coffee money. And they push them off the property.

00:34:55.080 Okay. Things are completely out of control in Maine, obviously.

00:35:01.020 Yeah.

00:35:01.760 Completely out of control.

00:35:02.820 Yeah.

00:35:04.140 I should say for the record, it's pretty a state out of 50, nicest people, lowest crime rate

00:35:08.440 for my whole life. I'm 56. So a long time. And you're describing like something's really,

00:35:18.500 really dark. How many of those facilities have been shut down by state or local law enforcement?

00:35:25.080 It depends on what you mean by shut down. You can execute a search warrant on one of these

00:35:31.720 facilities. You can go in, you can arrest some people, you can destroy their plants. But the very

00:35:37.020 next day it can get spun up and all they have to say is that they're getting a license. They're in

00:35:42.180 the process of getting a license to operate legally. And then law enforcement can't touch them.

00:35:46.540 I saw this exact same, this exact thing happened in Franklin County. There was a raid at a location

00:35:54.120 in New Sharon. And I showed up the following day because I wanted to get, I wanted to document it.

00:35:58.680 And there was a big white truck from Grow Generation, which is a marijuana growing supply

00:36:04.180 company, a fairly big one in Maine, backed up. And there was a crew of workers offloading material.

00:36:08.480 So it had been raided the day before by the sheriffs. And the following day, they're spinning

00:36:13.860 it right back up. And I emailed the sheriff and said, hey, just so you know, like these guys are

00:36:18.620 right back at it. I'm watching them. You can come over here. And he said, they say they're getting

00:36:23.800 a license now. So I can't touch them. And what we learned in January.

00:36:28.760 So if I get pulled over without a driver's license and I say, I'm going to get a driver's license,

00:36:33.480 they let me go. I don't think so. No, no. They take my car actually. So how is that?

00:36:39.580 I mean, with respect, with actually with no respect at all to the sheriff you're referring to,

00:36:43.960 how is that? Like, how is that? So it's, it's kind of genius the way they've set up the scheme

00:36:50.100 in that the property owner is never the one who is there growing the marijuana or picking up the

00:36:56.100 marijuana or trafficking the marijuana. And so they're never held culpable for the activity

00:37:01.240 happening at their property because they can always have plausible deniability. Oh,

00:37:04.920 I was renting to my cousin. I was renting to a stranger. Uh, you know, I just, I found this guy

00:37:08.960 on WeChat and, uh, rented the property to him. I had no idea this was going on. I'm so upset that

00:37:12.840 this is happening. Thank you, law enforcement for, uh, for doing this for us. Um, so in January,

00:37:19.440 uh, uh, the director of the office of cannabis policy handpicked by governor Janet Mills,

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00:37:38.020 He's been involved in cannabis policy. Brookings.

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00:38:50.500 for Americans. How do you spell his last name? Hudak, H-U-D-A-K. John Hudak, okay. And he is

00:38:59.640 in front of the Veterans and Legal Affairs Committee testifying for the first time this year of this

00:39:04.800 session. And he admits that he's been giving licenses, medicinal marijuana licenses, to

00:39:11.060 individuals that he suspects have ties to Chinese organized crime. Or he's giving licenses to people

00:39:17.020 who provide addresses for their grows at properties that have been previously raided for their

00:39:22.860 connections to Chinese organized crime. And his hands are tied. There's nothing that he can do

00:39:26.460 about it. He somehow finds a way. How about say no? That would be racist.

00:39:34.360 The state has no immune system. That's exactly right. There's no immune system. We have no defense.

00:39:39.140 And if you look at, like, you know, where I'm from, Dexter, you had Dexter, Ripley, Corina,

00:39:44.340 Cambridge, all these towns, three different counties represented. But you've got one criminal

00:39:47.460 group that's operating in three different counties. So three different sheriffs have jurisdiction and

00:39:53.600 multiple different local police departments. And some of these towns don't even have police

00:39:56.940 departments. But they're not, as a matter of course, sharing intelligence. So in order to take down

00:40:03.320 a criminal operation that's straddling three counties, you need to get cooperation amongst these

00:40:08.720 three sheriffs who don't, like, just always cooperate. So it requires a Herculean effort

00:40:14.700 amongst law enforcement to coordinate one of these crackdowns or one of these raids that are going to

00:40:19.860 be effective at actually arresting people, detaining people who could be, you know, witnesses who could

00:40:24.900 explain more about what's ultimately happening. But it, and by and large, there's no effective

00:40:31.220 enforcement. And the Maine State Police have been AWOL. Totally, totally AWOL. The one

00:40:37.600 one police force. How can, okay, so just to be, I just want to make sure I understand this.

00:40:42.300 You were tipped off to the story by a Daily Call News Foundation reporter who had a state-generated

00:40:48.680 list. CBP. This was generated by Customs and Border Protection. I'm so sorry. Okay, so it was the feds.

00:40:54.980 But it was, I mean, a government agency identified these places. So it's not like you're just guessing.

00:41:02.600 Yeah. And the Maine State Police, that was a couple years ago. They've done nothing.

00:41:09.300 They've been involved in three raids, and two of them were in Belgrade, about a mile from the

00:41:15.620 state police headquarters. And the reason they were, they raided those is because six months before we

00:41:21.980 started drawing attention to them, one of their troopers had been inside, seen 500 or 600 marijuana

00:41:27.960 plants, talked to the Chinese individual who voluntarily let the trooper in. So all this is

00:41:32.780 admissible. Talked to the Department of Agriculture, talked to the Office of Cannabis Policy, confirmed

00:41:38.060 that it was an illegal grow and didn't do anything to it for six months and allowed it to continue to

00:41:42.360 operate. So it's my belief that those two operations in Belgrade were CYA. They didn't want it later to

00:41:48.720 look like a cover-up on their part. So this is just corruption. I mean, you're describing corruption.

00:41:53.380 I mean, what else explains it? The governor of this state has yet to utter a single word

00:42:01.560 about a vast criminal conspiracy operating in her state as a result of this conspiracy.

00:42:06.360 We don't even know how many people have been killed. In Freedom, Maine, there was a house,

00:42:12.100 555 Belfast Road, been busted by the sheriff out there for functioning as an illegal marijuana grow,

00:42:18.360 subsequently turned into a flophouse, and there was a carbon monoxide poisoning incident.

00:42:24.020 There were, we think, four or five Chinese migrants living there, poisoned by carbon monoxide,

00:42:30.320 hospitalized. Two of them died. Somehow, the exhaust of the heater just piped back in through

00:42:39.400 the window. It was an accident, officially, on paper, is what law enforcement have determined.

00:42:43.280 And somehow, the propane heater, the breeze must have caught it and piped it back in through the

00:42:48.560 window. And there was no outpouring of progressive goodwill or mourning for these poor Chinese

00:42:55.760 migrants who died at a flophouse in Freedom, Maine. But, I mean, it was an attempted mass murder,

00:43:01.480 in my opinion. There's no way the exhaust just accidentally pipes back into the house. No,

00:43:09.280 this was an attempted hit on Chinese migrant workers at a flophouse. This was triad on triad

00:43:14.820 violence, which we've seen, we've documented. There have been burglaries. There was the shooting

00:43:19.620 I just talked about at the marijuana grow in Turner. And that individual, after he shot,

00:43:27.120 who was his friend in the head, turned to one of the witnesses who I've talked with and said that

00:43:31.880 he was a hired hit man for the triad, and that there were 40 more just like him. Maybe he watched

00:43:38.660 too many video games, or too many movies, or whatever, and he was lying, or maybe he was

00:43:44.500 telling the truth. I don't know.

00:43:46.780 So, there's more than one Chinese criminal organization?

00:43:50.160 Yeah, or multiple families, for sure. Multiple regions, I think, is safe to say, yeah.

00:43:55.520 And the governor's not said one word about this?

00:43:59.620 No.

00:44:00.020 Who is the governor?

00:44:01.480 Janet Mills. She was attorney general under Governor Paul LePage. She was a district attorney

00:44:09.140 before that. She's been a government employee for basically her entire life. Came out of

00:44:13.080 Farmington, dropped out of Colby, she claims, on her own free will, and then graduated from

00:44:19.440 the University of Massachusetts in 1970, although she's not listed in the program for that graduation

00:44:26.220 ceremony. It's the weirdest thing. But she's been governor now for about six, seven years.

00:44:33.200 So, it makes you wonder, like, you know, what is her position on illegal drugs, which are

00:44:39.420 destroying the state? I think any fair person would say that.

00:44:41.800 The state under Governor Mills has embraced restorative justice and harm reduction and the

00:44:50.680 idea that if you stop enforcing laws against drugs and you pass out needles and Narcan, that

00:44:59.200 that is going to be good for society. I think the plain objective evidence is that that's been

00:45:06.560 a complete failure. But on the, I guess, the Chinese criminal conspiracy in the state,

00:45:12.740 we've approached her at events and tried to ask her about it, and she won't answer questions

00:45:17.740 directly.

00:45:20.520 So, that is a, that's the million-dollar question.

00:45:24.060 So, do you have any evidence that suggests a motive for ignoring something this destructive?

00:45:30.840 Well, part of it could just be ego. It could just be that it's the, you know, it's the main wire,

00:45:35.380 and it's, you know, we are the conservative outlet in the state. And maybe if she acknowledges the

00:45:41.080 problem of Chinese criminal organizations in this state, it's in some way validating the work

00:45:45.560 that we've done to expose the problem. And if you accept that the work that we've done on Chinese

00:45:51.100 criminal organizations in the state is legitimate, valuable journalism, then you have to ask, well,

00:45:56.480 what about the other investigative projects that we've worked on, which I also think are valuable

00:46:01.940 journalism for the state? So, maybe it's just a simple...

00:46:04.660 The only journalism in the state, let me just correct you. The only journalism in the state.

00:46:09.380 Well, all due respect to your friend, Steve Collins.

00:46:12.700 There's really, there's no journalism in Maine at all. It's 1.3 million people,

00:46:17.680 largest state in New England, bigger than the other five New England states combined. I mean,

00:46:20.640 it's a real place. No journalism.

00:46:23.500 A lot of stenography.

00:46:24.300 The what you're doing, yeah, and propaganda. But so, I'm just, but I'm interested, like,

00:46:29.980 that's a huge footprint across a huge state. So, a lot of people know this is going on,

00:46:36.820 and she hasn't said word one, much less done anything to stop it. It does feel like someone's

00:46:42.000 getting paid.

00:46:44.320 I am increasingly of the belief that there's a lot of bribes being paid in the state.

00:46:51.100 Um, small, small stuff to code enforcement officers, police departments. It's, it's really

00:46:56.180 the only way that explains the lack of action. And we were, we did discover in reviewing property

00:47:02.300 records, there was a, there was a raid. Um, this was in, um, 2024 in February, um, that kind of

00:47:08.980 targeted the area around my hometown. Um, the town that my mom grew up in, I mean, from this marijuana

00:47:14.240 house that was raided in Corinna, you can see the church that my brother was married in and, uh,

00:47:18.880 that my grandmother used to go to. It's a big, beautiful main house that will probably have

00:47:22.980 to be destroyed now because of the poisons and the mold and everything that afflicted the house

00:47:27.320 as a result of it becoming a marijuana grow. Um, but there was this coordinated raid with the

00:47:31.980 sheriff's very effective law enforcement action. And in the days after that, there was a real estate

00:47:37.600 transfer done for a property in Corinna, Maine in the same town, uh, for a 12 acre property,

00:47:42.160 a teardown brilliant, like a hunting camp. Um, and, uh, it was a transfer of a property from a

00:47:48.920 Chinese woman living in Massachusetts to another Chinese person living in Guangdong province,

00:47:54.960 China. So it struck me as unusual. Uh, Oh, did it? Yes. A little weird. It was a little weird.

00:48:01.760 Uh, and then on the real estate transfer document, it said, um, that this was a gift to mother. Uh,

00:48:08.260 and my mom was from Corinna. And so I thought to myself, if I told my mom that for mother's day,

00:48:14.220 I was giving her 12 acres and a teardown in Corinna, Maine, she would probably slap me.

00:48:18.860 So again, this is an unusual gift to your mother, but what really struck me as unusual about it was

00:48:24.300 the fact that the attorney who processed the real estate transfer was Paul Mills, uh, of Farmington,

00:48:30.020 Maine, who was the older brother of governor Janet Mills. What? Wait, the governor's brother's

00:48:35.280 involved in this. The governor's brother has been involved in notarizing deeds for individuals

00:48:43.260 connected to Chinese organized crime and was the real estate transfer attorney specifically for this

00:48:48.620 property, which he helped transfer as a gift to the ownership of a Chinese national who owns multiple,

00:48:56.200 uh, marijuana grows in the state of Maine. And it was done days after a law enforcement action

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00:51:20.840 Tucker. I don't know what the fee on a real estate transfer document is, but I'll tell you,

00:51:27.580 I called Paul Mills and told him that I was from Massachusetts. I was looking to do a gift transfer

00:51:35.820 in Corinna, and I was wondering if he'd help process this real estate transfer for me. And he told me

00:51:40.520 that he didn't do work in that area. But you had evidence he had just done work in that area.

00:51:46.240 Exactly. So if you had said, I'm calling from Guangdong province, and I'd like to open another

00:51:52.620 illegal drug operation in the state, you think that would have been different?

00:51:57.000 I don't know. I don't know who called him, or I don't know if he was maybe a useful idiot,

00:52:02.160 or maybe it was an element of Chinese culture where they think that they need to pay some kind

00:52:05.960 of a tribute to the elected official in charge, to their family members, in order to get some

00:52:12.060 kind of protection.

00:52:12.740 When have they done that before?

00:52:14.420 Right. But I actually, I called Paul Mills as myself, and we had a 10-minute interview

00:52:23.260 about this property. And he said that a friend asked him to do it, and I couldn't remember who.

00:52:28.440 Couldn't remember who?

00:52:29.480 Couldn't remember who the friend was who asked him to do it, but he remembered a lot of details.

00:52:33.700 He's the governor's brother.

00:52:34.860 Yes.

00:52:35.120 The sitting governor.

00:52:35.960 Yes. And I printed off copies of the real estate transfer record with his name on it,

00:52:42.480 with the address in Guangdong province, China, where this new owner of 12 acres and a teardown

00:52:47.740 in Corona, Maine. And I have the code enforcement officer on the record saying this is an illegal

00:52:52.560 marijuana grow, and we would not authorize it because Corona opted out. We went to the

00:52:59.580 state house, and we passed out. I printed out 50 copies of this real estate transfer record,

00:53:04.040 and I passed them out to politicians. I passed them out to other reporters. I sat in the governor's

00:53:07.760 lobby with a camera, focused right on the door, just waiting for an interview. And they actually

00:53:13.780 canceled one of her meetings with school board members and snuck her out the side door so that

00:53:19.060 she wouldn't have to answer questions. And even though I scattered, I blanketed that place.

00:53:24.660 I was like South Korea flying over North Korea, dropping flyers, trying to get people to pay

00:53:28.640 attention to this stuff. And no other outlet in the state of Maine covered it.

00:53:32.400 Nobody else covered it but you?

00:53:34.480 No.

00:53:37.040 I have so many questions. Okay. I just want to sort of pause and ask the obvious question. So

00:53:41.320 that suggests such a deep level of coordination and terrifying corruption. I mean, are you worried

00:53:47.820 for your safety? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's difficult to, it's difficult to know

00:53:56.600 how worried you should be at a situation like that.

00:53:59.560 Of course.

00:54:00.460 You know, what, what exactly is the, the level of danger.

00:54:04.280 If they're allowing Chinese drug cartels to control huge swaths of rural Maine and people are

00:54:08.140 dying, a governor herself is saying not one thing, we're trying to stop it. And the entire rest of the

00:54:13.300 state's media is ignoring it. That sounds like a, like a level of corruption that's like, would have

00:54:18.640 been unimaginable in this country five years ago, even. Yeah. So, and if you're the one guy saying

00:54:24.340 something about it, which you are, I don't know. I mean, where does that leave you?

00:54:31.120 Before I'd even reported anything on this, I had a Excel spreadsheet working on a database,

00:54:36.600 you know, track, keeping track of records of sites we'd flagged from financial records,

00:54:40.980 tax records, electrical records, um, sites we'd visited and confirmed sites where we talked with

00:54:45.720 the neighbors. And at that point I'd identified maybe 150 or 175 of these sites and actually sent

00:54:51.500 it to the Bangor daily news. Cause I hadn't reported anything about it. Um, but I was, um, I was scared.

00:55:00.060 Um, and I thought that if we all reported it at the same time, it would kind of diffuse the

00:55:06.880 attention. And I was like willing to give up the, I guess, whatever the prestige of being the one who

00:55:12.000 gets the scoop to have us all come forward and report on this problem. Um, and they've never used

00:55:18.140 it. They've never reported on it. They've never, they've never touched it. I don't know. I mean,

00:55:21.480 it's just maybe their pride of not relying on, you know, I'm not a journalism school graduate,

00:55:27.620 so maybe they don't want to use it or some dirty trick by the conservative media that I'm trying to

00:55:33.220 pull on them, but they haven't used it. And I, at the same time, it reflects poorly on the

00:55:36.740 democratic administration that runs the state. Maybe that's just, that's a, yeah. Yeah. I mean,

00:55:42.320 that's a, uh, sometimes the simplest explanation is the, is the correct one. It's also could just

00:55:48.020 be laziness, a lack of, uh, curiosity. And this is a story that can't be told merely sitting or

00:55:54.080 discovered merely sitting behind your computer. You know, you have to actually be going out and

00:55:59.380 talking to people and knocking on doors and taking some risks. Um, it was around the same time

00:56:03.840 though, that, um, after I'd, I'd been out like the entire day knocking on fields a lot in, um,

00:56:09.820 Madison and that area and, um, beautiful town used to be. Um, and I realized I was like, man,

00:56:19.380 this is, this is a real vast conspiracy. And it just kind of dawned on me how insane this entire

00:56:26.080 thing was that this was being allowed to happen in Maine. And I was like, the law enforcement has

00:56:31.580 to be on this. And I don't want to be the guy who comes along and reports on this and like dicks up

00:56:37.000 this big investigation that they're about to close the loop on. So I drove to the Maine state police

00:56:41.920 headquarters and I walked in with my laptop and I told the receptionist, I have evidence of a vast

00:56:47.340 criminal conspiracy currently operating in the state of Maine. And I would just like to turn over

00:56:50.860 some information to somebody, to anybody, because I don't want to interfere with some active criminal

00:56:57.820 investigation. And I waited in the lobby for 15 minutes and then, uh, some woman came out and

00:57:03.440 said, there's nobody here who can talk to you. And I contacted the, where was this? Uh, this is

00:57:12.200 right in Augusta, the department of public safety building. Augusta is the capital of the state?

00:57:17.200 Yeah. And then I contacted the, um, there's nobody here who can talk to you. This is in the public

00:57:23.300 safety building in the state capital. And you say, I have evidence of a vast criminal conspiracy

00:57:27.900 and you're a sober sane person, probably the single most famous journalist in the state of Maine at this

00:57:33.980 point. In fact, you are, and no one can talk to you. Granted it was 425. Oh yeah. Right. Okay.

00:57:42.980 Um, on a, it might've been a Friday. So they'd probably clocked out by that time, but I contacted

00:57:46.880 the, the director of communications for the state police and reiterated what I'd said. Um, and I

00:57:53.340 contacted some other members of the state police that I knew through, um, family connections, some

00:57:58.440 fairly high ranking who used to be very big fans of mine when they heard me on conservative talk radio,

00:58:02.760 but, uh, don't want to talk to me anymore. Um, and reiterated what I'd said. Um, and, uh, you know,

00:58:08.520 I was, I was, the communications director told me somebody would call me on Monday and that was,

00:58:13.940 must be 120 Mondays ago at this point. So they have no interest, no interest in talking to me or

00:58:22.480 hearing from me. Um, the troopers I've talked with are, uh, they're mystified by the decisions that

00:58:28.800 the leadership are making as well. Who's making those decisions? Well, the, uh, Michael Soschuk,

00:58:35.880 former, uh, police chief of, uh, Portland who everybody in Portland was glad to see him leave

00:58:41.080 when he got picked to be the, uh, the head of the department of public safety. So he runs the,

00:58:45.460 uh, Maine state police and the main DEA, Michael Soschuk, Michael Soschuk. Yep. Uh, and, uh,

00:58:53.820 he runs the main drug enforcement agency and the Maine state police. And he's a, uh, a cabinet nominee

00:58:59.800 of, uh, Governor Janet Mills. He also has yet to utter a single word about this criminal conspiracy.

00:59:09.380 I mean, just hearing this story, which is one of the most shocking stories I've ever heard in a

00:59:13.160 lifetime of hearing shocking stories. It, it, it makes the hair on your arm stand up because it

00:59:18.020 feels like there's this great evil, there's this great destruction of human life. There's this great

00:59:23.100 crime taking place in public. Everyone can see it. Chinese drug cartels control a lot of the state

00:59:29.240 of Maine. And it feels like everybody's in on it. And you're the only person saying anything about it.

00:59:35.860 I mean, do you have trouble sleeping? Uh, sometimes. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, it's been,

00:59:44.320 uh, it's been a battle for sure. Why are you doing this?

00:59:48.040 Uh, I feel like I owe it to my state.

01:00:06.040 You know, I feel like I had such a great childhood, a wonderful childhood as a latchkey kid. And I loved

01:00:13.000 Maine and I loved being able to grow up and ride my bike anywhere and be safe. And I feel like the

01:00:18.780 people, my people are being taken advantage of by powerful forces that they're unequipped to repel.

01:00:27.240 We don't have an immune system for this. Um, and the only thing that I can do to fight back

01:00:35.400 is to put a spotlight on it and to expose it. Um, it's like my riding around with my grandfather

01:00:44.360 in a pickup truck in, uh, Ripley, Maine. And he sees some garbage on the side of the road and we

01:00:49.640 stop and I ask him, what are we stopping for? He's like, this garbage, we got to pick it up.

01:00:54.220 It's not our garbage. We didn't leave it there. It's like, yeah, but I got trash bags and we got time.

01:00:59.000 Um, and it's, it's our town. This is our, it's our community. You know, it's my version of that.

01:01:05.960 We're taking out the trash. We're, we're picking up our backyard. That's what needs to be done.

01:01:11.880 And there's no one else who's doing it. Uh, you know, I love this state. I don't, I don't,

01:01:17.060 I don't want it to become, you know, just like a, a festering gang bang for third world criminals.

01:01:22.320 And so it's becoming very fast, faster than I've ever seen anything change.

01:01:25.440 Um, okay. So now to the question of the watchdogs, the constitutionally protected watchdog class,

01:01:34.240 we call the media, uh, in Maine, there are three big papers, one in Bangor, one in Lewiston,

01:01:40.180 one biggest in Portland, uh, Press Herald, Daily News, Sun Journal. And, um, they, you know,

01:01:49.280 they've been around a long time. They had big staffs at one point, like where are they?

01:01:53.180 Why no coverage? I can't, it's blowing my mind.

01:01:57.200 I mean, they, they'll cover something if there's a press release, you know, if, if, uh, if, uh, uh,

01:02:03.420 there's a raid that a sheriff does. I mean, Sheriff, uh, Dale Lancaster in Somerset County

01:02:08.060 is probably the best sheriff in the state of Maine, probably the best law enforcement official

01:02:14.420 in the state of Maine, old school, no excuses, no BS kicking doors in. Uh, you know, he's,

01:02:21.280 he's been responsible for the vast majority of the successful search warrants that have been

01:02:26.420 executed, uh, and a lot of the arrests. Um, he's been, uh, very successful and he'll put out a press

01:02:32.920 release and there'll be a cut, there'll be some coverage, but they, um, you know, they'll be very

01:02:37.600 careful not to note, uh, any of the patterns, you know, they're, they're very diligent about not

01:02:43.180 recognizing the patterns.

01:02:44.520 You've already done the reporting. Like you've put online and unfortunately since it's Maine

01:02:49.720 and it's considered far away and remote and people don't pay attention, it hasn't gotten

01:02:52.760 the coverage it deserves in my opinion, but you've put the, the facts out there. Like they

01:02:57.360 could follow up on that at any moment and they've decided not to. So, you know, reprinting press

01:03:02.700 releases is not journalism. Of course it's, uh, it's a transcription service. Who owns the media

01:03:10.980 in Maine? Like who's responsible for this? Deliberately ignoring a crisis.

01:03:16.660 So the, the largest newspaper company currently is owned by the Maine Trust for Local News,

01:03:22.580 uh, which is a subsidiary of the National Trust for Local News, which is a, um, non-profit funded

01:03:29.460 by George Soros.

01:03:31.880 Oh, so George Soros controls the media in Maine.

01:03:35.380 He funds it. He specifically funded the transaction to acquire these papers from Reed Brower.

01:03:39.940 Uh, along with Hans-Jörg Weiss, who's a, uh, Swiss national who made his fortune, uh, doing illegal

01:03:46.780 bone cement experiments on humans, uh, who's been, um, in trouble in the past for illegally donating

01:03:52.940 as a foreign national to U.S. political candidates. So has a knack for trying to influence American

01:03:57.540 politics as a foreign national.

01:03:59.000 Why would George Soros want to control the media in Maine?

01:04:02.420 Yeah. So Maine's, going back to the 1980s, Maine's been a cheap date for people looking to trial

01:04:07.480 political ideas. Uh, you know, beginning with the shutdown of Maine Yankee, our nuclear power

01:04:11.900 plant. Um, there's, uh, really just three media markets. Um, like you said, just a handful of

01:04:18.380 newspapers. Um, and if you want to get a ballot initiative done or something like that, uh, it

01:04:23.800 doesn't take a lot of money. So you can come to Maine and you can close a nuclear plant plant. You

01:04:27.760 can get a gay marriage referendum passed. You can get marijuana legalized as a referendum,

01:04:32.760 uh, for a small amount of money. And then you can go to another state and say, well,

01:04:37.540 we've already done it in Maine. We can do it in this state. And so we become kind of a petri dish

01:04:42.040 for political experimentation that, um, particularly the progressive left has taken advantage of

01:04:47.820 in a very successful way.

01:04:50.780 Maine was always the whitest state in the United States has long been and was a target for that

01:04:56.040 reason too. And they, they said that out loud means too white. Um, and so there is a sense in

01:05:03.160 which it was targeted because of its demographics. I mean, they've said that I'm not guessing at all.

01:05:07.600 Yeah. I mean, going back 30 years, I mean, under governor, John Baldacci,

01:05:11.180 we Lewiston famously became a sanctuary city for, uh, Somalis. Um, and can you describe Lewiston?

01:05:19.500 What does Lewiston mean?

01:05:20.280 Uh, uh, the Atlantic, I think described it as little Mogadishu.

01:05:26.960 Lewiston, it's on the, uh, it was a mill town.

01:05:30.480 Yeah. It used to be, uh, uh, it was a Franco-American town defined by, uh, the immigration of French

01:05:36.860 Canadians coming down to work in factories. Um, so it was a urban Franco town.

01:05:42.220 Textiles and paper.

01:05:43.200 Yeah. Um, and biggest mills in New England there, right on the Interscoggin River.

01:05:46.580 We're working class people. And then J and adjacent town Auburn, frequently referred to as LA,

01:05:52.140 Lewiston, Auburn. Um, it's, uh, you know, I would say that it's the second biggest metropolitan area

01:05:57.740 in the state. Um, but now, uh, I would say it's, uh, it's a no-go zone. It's not, it's not something

01:06:05.320 that people feel safe. Uh, you know, the people who supported turning Lewiston into a sanctuary city

01:06:10.560 for Somalis have now spent as much money as they can to get as far away from Lewiston as they

01:06:14.400 moved to Camden. I have to drive through it, uh, uh, uh, frequently for work.

01:06:20.040 How's it look?

01:06:21.480 Uh, yeah, third world. I mean, it's, it's not, uh, it's not doing great. And, and there are people

01:06:26.920 who will be, um, you know, partisans for Lewiston that it's on the verge of a comeback and you get

01:06:32.400 in trouble if you criticize Lewiston. But, uh, we cover police reports. We cover crime reports.

01:06:38.500 We talk to Lewiston police officers. We know what's happening in Lewiston. There are 16 and 17 year

01:06:43.520 olds, uh, engaging in gunfights on the streets. And, uh, when the police show up to talk to,

01:06:49.600 uh, people, nobody will talk. People are getting shot and nobody will talk. People who get shot

01:06:54.520 won't talk about who shot them. Um, so the police are frustrated and they're all just, you know,

01:06:59.580 looking at the clock and wondering when they can start collecting their pension. Uh, but it's just,

01:07:04.460 it's just a symptom of the, uh, law enforcement is just retreating across the board. Um, whether,

01:07:13.520 whether it's the crime that's happening, the drug crime that was happening in Portland,

01:07:16.760 when they're basically allowing open, uh, opioid use and not arresting people, including people

01:07:23.020 who are selling narcotics, um, uh, whether it's the gun crime in Lewiston or the Chinese organized

01:07:28.600 crime, all of this, there's just law enforcement have, um, they've pulled back.

01:07:33.680 What's so scary to me is that, um, Maine is now considered a blue state. A lot of the state is

01:07:41.520 not blue at all. It is not in favor of this. It's the Southern parts of the states, coastal

01:07:46.140 parts of the states, the first district, uh, that has been, you know, completely changed

01:07:50.520 demographically. Um, and, and now is, you know, totally in the hands of the Democratic

01:07:57.700 party. But what's interesting is the Republican candidates in Maine, um, the ones who are lining

01:08:05.740 up to run for governor, for example, in this coming election, none of them from what I can

01:08:10.940 tell have even mentioned demographic change, crime and drugs. Those are not issues that

01:08:15.340 Republicans want to talk about, even though they are the issues. They're the only issues.

01:08:19.680 I think drugs, uh, uh, that I've seen a lot of them have talked about drugs, but there's

01:08:24.820 a lot of focus on the, the culture war issues, you know, trans, uh, uh, uh, athletes, you know,

01:08:31.300 the governor is very focused on making sure that, uh, boys can participate in girls sports

01:08:35.300 and dominate girls sports. But again, this isn't an issue against that. Okay. Obviously I

01:08:39.280 think it's, you know, it's a humiliation ritual, like so many of these things. However, is,

01:08:43.980 is that what destroyed Lewiston? No, that's exactly, that's not, that's not the big issue.

01:08:48.440 Right. So how many Republicans are willing to say like, Hey, how about no more Somalis

01:08:52.220 in our state? Like no one voted for that. Why, what are you doing? Why are you doing

01:08:55.540 that? By the way, there are no jobs here. So like, why are you bringing poor people into

01:08:58.680 a place with no jobs? Yeah. That's a, that is a fringe radical opinion that, uh, there

01:09:03.680 is, again, there is a, a tremendous fear of being, um, socially ostracized. I think what

01:09:11.040 happened, you know, uh, these people, I mean, I think you kind of popularized the term gay

01:09:15.060 race communists. I stole it from someone else, but I do. Well, okay. Well, I love it too.

01:09:20.080 I think that the gay race communists increased the social costs of participating in the public

01:09:26.240 sphere during COVID helped by COVID, uh, to such a significant degree that good conservative

01:09:32.840 people who might not be explicitly political, but who just are conservative inclined. They

01:09:39.420 have a conservative disposition, um, withdrew from politics because if you went to a school

01:09:44.360 board or you went to a town council meeting and you spoke out, spoke your mind about what

01:09:47.440 you wanted to see happen in your community. It wasn't just that you disagreed with somebody.

01:09:51.300 It was that you were a bad person. And if you owned a business, well, there's going to

01:09:54.920 be a Facebook mob that was going to go give you a one-star reviews and you were a bad person.

01:09:58.300 We're going to drive you into the ground. If you don't want, you know, porn books with

01:10:01.760 cartoon, uh, you know, blowjobs in them in your kindergarten classroom. If you don't

01:10:06.720 want that, you're a bad person. And so conservatives just said, you know what, screw it. This is,

01:10:10.840 it's not worth my time. The cost is too high. I'm just going to go take care of my family

01:10:14.160 and my church. I'm going to go fishing. I'm going to hang out with my, my rotary club.

01:10:17.480 We ceded the public square to the gay race communists and they took over with zeal.

01:10:24.800 I think that's a really, uh, crisp and accurate analysis, but there's also, um, the problem

01:10:31.700 with how the state of Maine's government acted. Right. So I, I have a, a friend, um, lifelong

01:10:37.760 friend here who got into an argument with the state about COVID regulations. He had a restaurant

01:10:44.220 and, um, he came on my show on Fox and mentioned Janet Mills and she and the other women who run

01:10:52.760 the state, I think the state is run entirely by women pretty much. It's a matriarchy.

01:10:57.040 Almost every single official in the state is a left-wing woman, angry left-wing white woman,

01:11:01.920 some angry left-wing Somali woman. And gay white men from Poland. And gay white men, same thing.

01:11:06.380 The rainbow bullies. Yeah. They descended on him and drove him out of the state. They sent inspectors

01:11:13.220 armed to shut down his business for criticizing her. And he's now operating a business in another

01:11:19.920 state. He's been here his whole life, multi-generational. So they're like, people are afraid of the

01:11:25.840 state government under Janet Mills that, do you think that? It's the biggest problem in our state.

01:11:30.680 I mean, there's a, there is a, but it's a, it seems like a, she seems Janet Mills seems like a

01:11:35.600 criminal. The state seems to be run like a criminal enterprise. That's my view. Uh, every main wire

01:11:41.500 reporter gets the spiel. Forget what you learned in civics class. We're reporting on a criminal

01:11:46.240 organization. Uh, they steal from people and then they hand out money to their friends and to a

01:11:51.620 dependent class in order to buy votes. Uh, that's how you approach reporting on state government in

01:11:56.420 Maine. If you're a reporter from the Maine wire. How many reporters do you have working for you?

01:12:01.220 Uh, we have, uh, eight, we have nine full-time employees, including myself at this point.

01:12:06.400 So I'm not overstating it because probably unlike a lot of people watching this, I actually couldn't

01:12:10.220 follow news from the state. I'm interested and, uh, and horrified. You really are the only

01:12:16.500 organization covering not a, so you came from talk radio where you're like giving opinions.

01:12:21.780 Now you're, you're really just a pretty straight news reporter. Like here are the facts that we

01:12:26.100 found. We got in the truck. We drove around. Here's what we saw. Yeah. I mean, I'm an opinionated

01:12:29.520 guy. I mean, I, you know, I can't, but I, you know, I try to, I try to do the investigative

01:12:34.960 journalism, but I also just try to be honest about my opinions about it. Yeah. You know, I try to,

01:12:39.360 I try to be, you know, yes, I'm, yes, I'm conservative. Yes. I think it's a, I think it's a bad

01:12:43.620 thing that Chinese criminal organizations have taken over my state. Yes. I think that's a bad

01:12:48.020 thing, but I'm also going to be able to report facts objectively. So how hard is it to hire

01:12:53.100 reporters? Where do you get your reporters? You know, could you be bigger? I mean, why wouldn't

01:12:58.240 you have a hundred reporters working for you? Could you do that? Yeah. I mean, I, if, if we had

01:13:03.680 the resources and could find the people I could keep a team of 15, 20 reporters busy around the

01:13:11.540 clock full-time and pursuing stories, a list of investigative stories that we have to work on

01:13:16.000 that are, you know, not, maybe not the same size and scope as triad weed is long, but there's so

01:13:25.740 much organized crime and it's so overlapped with government. Virtually every government program is

01:13:34.500 being taken advantage of. The government itself is handing out no bid contracts in a way that's

01:13:39.900 hard to separate from organized crime. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's been very difficult to find people

01:13:48.660 to move to Maine. I had really a heartbreaking moment hiring my most recent producer to do our

01:13:54.660 own podcast and Substack project. And I'm talking with him, he grew up in Bangor, did everything right,

01:14:01.460 went to high school, stayed out of trouble, went to Husson, got a degree in film production and is,

01:14:08.500 you know, getting ready to propose to his girlfriend. They've already proposed, so I'm not,

01:14:13.400 you know, spilling the beans here. And I said, so what's keeping you in Maine? And he said,

01:14:19.540 we just haven't been able to save up enough money to get out.

01:14:25.240 And that was like a fucking dagger in my heart. Imagine that, just haven't been able to save up

01:14:32.260 enough money to escape Maine. And it's like, where do you escape to even? I guess, Texas, Florida,

01:14:40.800 Tennessee, some red states, some free states, maybe you can get to. But hearing that from him was like,

01:14:47.040 man, you know, so, I mean, that's, I think that's part of, you know, I would like Maine to be a place

01:14:52.240 where people want to live. But right now it's not. And it's very hard to hire people who want to come

01:14:58.800 here. It's like a deployment to a war zone. You know, one of my reporters lives in Portland. I

01:15:04.020 gave him a gun when I hired him and he said he was going to be living in Portland.

01:15:10.740 All legally, all legally transferred, by the way.

01:15:13.580 Yeah, whatever. Yeah.

01:15:14.680 You know, I mean, when your government is committing crimes like this, it's hard to take

01:15:20.060 seriously their laws, which is part of the problem. Everything degrades. It's like, really,

01:15:23.720 you're totally corrupt. You're allowing Chinese drug cartels to control my state. And you're

01:15:27.600 worried about whether I have the right license to carry a firearm? Up yours.

01:15:31.520 But that phenomenon, by the way, has trickled down into all of the legal marijuana businesses who

01:15:37.660 invested in some cases their life savings to build a business, do it legally, do things the right

01:15:42.640 way. Now they're seeing that the laws are being enforced only against white people. The marijuana

01:15:49.000 laws are only being enforced against white people. So increasingly, you're seeing more people adopt

01:15:54.740 the same tactics that the Chinese mafia is shipping out of state, blowing, you know, growing more than

01:16:01.960 their licenses allow, you know, cutting corners. There's a pretty famous case, a guy named Lucas

01:16:08.380 Sorois in Farmington, Maine, who was, he set up a business called the shoe factory, which was in an

01:16:16.680 old shoe factory building where he built these rooms and people who wanted to grow marijuana could

01:16:21.560 rent from him and they would grow their marijuana at this property. And he got reported to the Office

01:16:27.740 of Cannabis Policy. And the Office of Cannabis Policy immediately referred him to the drug

01:16:33.560 enforcement agency, the federal drug enforcement agency. And the DOJ got on top of him and they

01:16:40.740 wiretapped his phones, recorded his conversations with his father, and are still to this day pursuing

01:16:47.000 a case to try to send him to prison for doing a smaller scale version of what they knew.

01:16:55.440 They knew, and I can prove they knew because there's public documents and documents I've obtained

01:17:00.900 through Freedom of Access Act requests, what they knew the Chinese organizations were doing at the

01:17:05.100 same time, including at that facility in Turner, where William Robinson was shot in the head in

01:17:11.740 December. So they are, if you're, if you've got a French Canadian last name, they're going to stick

01:17:17.120 the DOJ after you. They're going to try to lock you in a cage. But if your last name is Wu or Huang

01:17:24.080 or Chen, you don't get the laws applied to you. You get arrested, you get $500 bail, maybe, maybe

01:17:31.820 $10,000 or $20,000 if it's Somerset County. And then who knows if you show up at your trial or if you

01:17:37.640 You're making me really radical.

01:17:41.440 Has, to the governor's brother who's profiting, who has provably profited from this,

01:17:46.840 it, is anybody in Maine state media mentioning this? Is anyone following up on this? The governor's

01:17:56.220 never responded to this. It's just like you report this and then it just disappears.

01:17:59.900 National media reported on it. Yeah. I mean, plenty. I mean, they've got plenty of attention

01:18:04.220 in the national media. Um, uh, you know, I've done a segment with CBS to their credit. Um, um,

01:18:11.240 Peter Schweitzer, uh, who's a, uh, a great author journalist who's been spent a lot of time working

01:18:16.940 on the China topic and the drug topic, um, you know, helped me get in touch with CBS and they

01:18:22.040 came up and did a segment on it. Uh, NBC later ripped off that segment and, uh, basically plagiarized

01:18:27.940 all of my journalism, but that's fine. Um, it's gotten national attention, but not the Paul Mills part

01:18:32.560 of it. And, uh, the local newspaper reporters don't seem to be interested in it. Uh, it's weird.

01:18:40.700 I was, I was, I've been accused of, uh, xenophobia for reporting on this, you know, huge criminal

01:18:48.480 organization that took over my state and that's ruining all of these buildings. That's one thing.

01:18:52.880 Who accused you of that? Oh, just idiots online, progressives, you know, elected, elected officials.

01:18:58.580 You know, I, I actually, the only time I've ever testified on a bill was when, uh, there was a

01:19:04.440 lawmaker who introduced a bill that would have given Maine a little Rico statute to help crack down on,

01:19:09.680 uh, uh, organized crime operations like this. And I figured I testify because I've seen more of

01:19:16.100 these than anybody in the state. I, at this point, you know, I could be a self-anointed expert witness

01:19:20.120 in Chinese marijuana. You know, I've got a degree in Chinese marijuana. And so I testified neither for

01:19:25.420 or against this bill and just was there to answer questions about how this operates. And the, as we

01:19:31.940 included the clip in our documentary that they didn't want to hear, they shut down my testimony and

01:19:37.000 said, can we hear from, you know, an actual expert about this? And they pushed me out and they voted

01:19:41.580 down the bill, voted against the only piece of legislation that would have, um, empowered law

01:19:47.420 enforcement to do anything about this. Um, so they've, they've reacted very negatively and hostilely

01:19:53.040 to my attempts to just show them what's happening in the state. You know, with, uh, I, you know,

01:20:00.680 I think we've gone above and beyond in terms of the evidence that we've provided,

01:20:04.740 the documentation that we've provided, because we know that not being an established, being

01:20:10.200 independent media, being conservative media, um, there's going to be a higher standard of

01:20:15.240 proof that we have to meet. And I think that we've met it and gone way beyond it over and

01:20:20.340 over and over and over and over again, and still they will not acknowledge it. And specifically

01:20:26.660 when it comes to, to Paul Mills, who, uh, his clients are involved in, um, more, uh, marijuana

01:20:33.060 grows than the one we've reported on is a building in Sangerville, Maine right now. It's the biggest

01:20:37.600 building in Sangerville. It started construction in August of last year, and it's just now finished

01:20:42.760 and it's coming online and it's going to be a big, big productive, uh, marijuana grow owned

01:20:48.560 by, uh, the client that Paul Mills transferred, uh, the property and credit to. Yeah.

01:20:54.380 Okay. So the point of Maine is its majestic nature. The governor, Janet Mills, who really

01:21:04.080 can't overstate really, it's, it's shocking the more you know about Janet Mills, but they

01:21:09.580 have bulldozed, chainsawed, flattened, clear cut forests in Maine for solar panels because

01:21:16.360 that's like environmentally positive or something. I mean, it's like strange.

01:21:20.760 It's part of the criminal organization. It is. And they hate nature. They hate nature

01:21:25.200 amazingly. What's the environmental impact of these grows? Every single house that has

01:21:32.820 had one of these Chinese marijuana grows, the best use for it is potentially practice for

01:21:38.920 the fire department. They all need to be torn down. There are super sites, uh, super fun

01:21:43.400 sites. We, we don't even know the extent of the damage that's been done as a result of the

01:21:49.480 Chinese pesticides and fungicides that have been imported from China illegally, um, into

01:21:55.440 California and then shipped to Maine and used at these sites as fumigants.

01:22:00.000 Actually?

01:22:00.600 Yes. We, so they're, uh, California has a really bad problem with this in the Siskiyou

01:22:07.220 National Forest. They have what they call hoop houses, massive greenhouses. Um, and they

01:22:12.440 are operated by Chinese criminal organizations. They're, um, often in concert with the Central

01:22:17.700 American cartels. And they've been investigating these from an environmental perspective because

01:22:23.300 they've weakened their drug laws so much that no one cares about illegal marijuana, but they

01:22:27.280 do care about water diversion to supply the cannabis. And they care about, um, the contamination

01:22:33.440 of these pristine wildlife environments with the chemical runoff. So they have the environment

01:22:39.400 police out there working to fight the Chinese mafia. Um, they've found pesticides, fungicides,

01:22:46.780 um, fumigants in Chinese labeled Mylar bags. And they found some shipping labels that they

01:22:54.700 were able to trace back to a property in California, which they obtained a postal warrant on and found

01:23:00.560 that this particular house was also shipping to a gross supply store in Massachusetts and a house

01:23:07.540 in Monmouth, Maine, which is in Kennebec County. Um, maybe, uh, 20 miles away from the Augusta,

01:23:13.980 the state's capital. Um, it's on Academy road. It's about, uh, maybe a thousand feet from a school.

01:23:21.240 We went to the house and knocked on the door to try to see if the owner wanted to talk. Uh, no one

01:23:26.940 was there. It very clearly had been turned into a marijuana girl at one point, but was not active.

01:23:32.120 And we went and talked with the neighbor who was a firefighter and he says, Oh no, it's active.

01:23:37.000 He's there's people there in the mornings around, you know, two o'clock in the morning to five o'clock

01:23:40.940 in the morning. And there's activity there. Um, so you kind of drew the conclusion that potentially

01:23:46.620 this was a shipping hub or receiving hub for these pesticides and fumigants and chemicals that

01:23:51.300 were being sent, uh, imported from China to California and distributed to Chinese marijuana.

01:23:57.000 And they're not legal here because they're poison. They're, uh, not, there's no licensed

01:24:02.360 regulated use for many of these pesticides and fungicides. Um, they're because they're so

01:24:11.040 deadly for humans, but it's, it's, uh, it's even worse than that. So there's, they're using

01:24:18.880 chemicals that are, um, not licensed for use in the United States and are deadly. Um, sometimes

01:24:25.820 some of them aren't even licensed for use in China, which is not notorious for their concern

01:24:30.080 for environmental rights, you know, human rights, environmental degradation. Um, but

01:24:34.420 they're also not very well studied, uh, used together, uh, in like eight of them together,

01:24:42.020 12 of them together. They're not studied when you burn them. They're not studied when you

01:24:45.540 apply them to marijuana and eat the marijuana. They're not studied when you apply them to marijuana

01:24:49.300 and smoke the marijuana. They're not studied when you use them in all these different combinations

01:24:52.860 and then do a gas extraction process to extract the THC oil and a more potent version of this

01:24:59.300 pesticide fumigant. They're not studied at all. They were unknown. Uh, the, they only identified

01:25:04.880 a lot of these chemicals.

01:25:06.220 Seriously?

01:25:06.720 They only identified a lot of these chemicals in California because they brought in the weapons

01:25:13.020 of mass destruction unit from the army national guard because the conventional labs couldn't test

01:25:17.420 for them. And there's no lab in the state of Maine that can test for them that I know of.

01:25:21.120 None of the cannabis labs can take cannabis grown at a Chinese marijuana grow that has

01:25:25.960 used these pesticides and test it and determine that it's contaminated. They may be now because

01:25:32.360 I've shared the information with them directly from the chemists in California who are identifying

01:25:37.920 them and trying to lead the fight against them. Uh, they may be able to test for them now,

01:25:42.220 but the consequence of it is that you could take a, a bit of marijuana from one of these

01:25:46.820 grows has been treated with these heinous, deadly chemicals, uh, and tested at one of

01:25:52.860 the labs and get an A plus tested, approved. No, no, uh, you know, bad chemicals. This is

01:25:58.320 safe for consumption.

01:25:59.720 Because they're not capable of testing these chemicals.

01:26:01.740 Yeah. Because it's just a different process. It's just the, each, you know, it's not like you

01:26:05.700 put a sample of cannabis in a machine and it says, here's everything that's in it. There's

01:26:09.340 each different pesticide, uh, or bacterium or arsenic. There's different processes to test

01:26:15.420 what's in each of them.

01:26:16.560 And people are putting this in their bodies?

01:26:18.200 Yeah. Well, they don't know. They don't know. And, and these, so these Mylar bags, well,

01:26:23.000 first of all, the house where we knew these products were being shipped, we knock on the

01:26:27.260 door and, uh, do a story about it. And a week later, the house hits the market for sale,

01:26:33.500 not suspicious at all. Uh, and the following week I get a call from a grandmother who,

01:26:39.340 had just taken a tour of the house as a prospective buyer with her two grandchildren.

01:26:44.740 And she was calling me because she and her grandchildren immediately developed respiratory

01:26:49.380 symptoms after walking through the house. And they were concerned enough that they Googled

01:26:53.640 it and they found my article and they called me and they wanted to know, what do we do?

01:26:59.980 You know, we've just been exposed to dangerous, unknown Chinese, Chinese neurotoxins. What do we do?

01:27:06.560 Like, fuck if I know, man, I'm just a journalist.

01:27:10.340 So Janet Mills is the steward of the environment, the big environmentalist governor.

01:27:14.120 Sure. Sure. Yeah. I mean, if she's supported by the natural resources council of Maine and the

01:27:20.620 Maine Renewable Energy Association and all the other corrupt trade groups that turn around and profit

01:27:25.860 from, from the sale of solar panels made by Chinese slaves in Western China. Yeah, sure. She

01:27:30.980 would position herself that way. And presumably future Democrats will, uh, position themselves that way.

01:27:36.400 But these, these same Mylar bags, by the way, that we've seen in California that we've identified,

01:27:41.300 we know to a certain extent what these chemicals are. Thanks to the weapons of mass destruction lab,

01:27:46.520 the most recent bust in Somerset County by Sheriff Dale Lancaster.

01:27:50.000 He had, he photographs that he distributed with his press release, the same exact bags.

01:27:55.940 They're coming here from California, shipped here illegal, illegally from China being distributed

01:28:00.600 here. And if they're in that one grow in Somerset County, you could assume that they're in all of

01:28:04.940 these grows and they, they dump mad science concoctions of pesticides with sawdust and ammonium

01:28:11.000 nitrate in a little fuse and a half cup beer can. And they let it smolder and the smoke fills the house

01:28:16.920 and it covers the marijuana plants. And so the mites won't grow and the mildew won't grow. So

01:28:21.400 you have minimal product loss. Are you serious? It's very effective at mitigating any kind of

01:28:26.760 pesticide or pest damage to your marijuana product. Um, but it, it coats every corner of the house

01:28:33.540 and these dangerous chemicals. So we have no way of testing for them. There's no real estate

01:28:39.020 disclosure. There are houses right now for sale by the same real estate agent who sold, tried to sell

01:28:44.900 this fucking house to the grandmother I talked with. There are houses that are for sale right now

01:28:49.760 on the market that have very likely been contaminated with these pesticides or at a

01:28:54.440 minimum, the black mold that comes with a house that's kept at 99% humidity and, you know, 80 degrees

01:29:00.900 so that marijuana can grow. They're on the market right now being sold with no disclosure whatsoever.

01:29:04.960 And this is a state with one of the most profound housing crises in the country because of

01:29:08.940 immigration, um, and Airbnb and big companies buying up residential real estate. Like people

01:29:16.180 can't afford houses here, period. Yeah. Also just assholes from Massachusetts and New York moving here.

01:29:20.480 Well, there's, I didn't want to say that, but yeah. True. Um, so I'll just say for the record,

01:29:26.960 if we're talking about mass deportation, like the Massachusetts and New York deportation.

01:29:32.840 Exactly. Yeah, I get it. Um, uh, I've got some dirty jokes on that subject, but I'm not going to share

01:29:38.780 them. Um, so, so it's, it's reducing the amount of available housing for Maine people. It is poisoning

01:29:48.020 the state's environment, which the government claims to be a steward of. Um, and they know it's

01:29:55.140 happening, right? I just want to, this one point I just want to be totally clear on. You're a journalist

01:30:00.980 working with other journalists trying to expose the scale of this disaster, this crime, but it's not

01:30:07.880 like government officials don't know. I'm not even talking about the governor, like people who run

01:30:14.000 the town managers in all these little towns, the selectmen in all these little towns, they've got

01:30:17.760 to know too, right? Yeah, I would assume. I mean, I know that the Lincoln County Sheriff has videotaped

01:30:24.700 surveillance evidence of, uh, illegal dumping going on out behind these sites. Um, there's, uh,

01:30:30.740 at, uh, Machias out in Washington County at a marijuana grow. I visited there. Uh, you could

01:30:35.720 almost study the ages of marijuana cultivation there by looking at the strata of the styrofoam

01:30:42.240 or, uh, I guess, um, fiberglass, um, uh, substrate that they start the marijuana plants in because

01:30:49.180 there were just layers and layers and layers and layers where they'd been growing marijuana,

01:30:53.520 uh, because they just take it when they don't, they throw it out in the backyard. And so just the

01:30:59.080 entire property is a beautiful farm in, uh, Machias that overlooks the water, uh, just

01:31:05.960 like it could be someone's paradise. Uh, and the soil will be permanently contaminated with,

01:31:11.200 you know, God knows what chemicals and fiberglass. It's everywhere distributed throughout the

01:31:15.280 property. Every single one of these places has like an unknown level of contamination, water

01:31:22.420 contamination, soil contamination, uh, the danger to people, um, the processes that are used to extract

01:31:29.640 the THC and the CBD, the psychoactive useful, uh, chemicals in marijuana. These same processes

01:31:37.320 also can collect the oil soluble pesticides and fungicides in higher concentrations. So when you

01:31:44.420 concentrate the vape pen to 99% THC, you're also concentrating, uh, the, you know, some of these

01:31:52.080 pesticides and fungicides, and then those are being sold. I mean, from the Chinese grows to,

01:31:56.320 you know, two thirds of them are leaving the state. They're being sold, uh, New York, Massachusetts,

01:32:00.480 the Southeast United States, all over the place. And people are unknowingly consuming these

01:32:04.900 substances that have just not been studied at all. Um, so we wouldn't even really know if somebody was

01:32:10.620 experiencing side effects of, uh, you know, unintentional exposure to, to some of these

01:32:15.700 carbonate poisons. I mean, it's, we, there's, there's so much that we don't know about the

01:32:21.500 dangers of these chemicals and you can't help but wonder if that's intentional.

01:32:28.560 Of course it's intentional.

01:32:29.820 You know, I've read, I've read, uh, unrestricted warfare, you know, they explicitly contemplate

01:32:34.960 environmental destruction and unrestricted warfare. Um, you know, the, the book written by Chinese

01:32:40.140 colonels in 1999, uh, which basically laid out exactly what they would do to us over the next 25 years.

01:32:45.960 Um, and we know, thanks to, uh, Philip Lenzicki from the Daily Caller News Foundation who reported,

01:32:51.480 um, just, uh, last week that, uh, there was reporting we did in Dexter, my hometown, about a mile from

01:32:59.420 where I grew up, uh, out of illegal marijuana row. We found an abandoned BMW there and there were two

01:33:06.700 shirts, uh, over the driver's seat and the passenger seat. I had Chinese writing on them, uh, for the

01:33:13.440 Shishu Association of New York. I was like, huh, that's weird. Took some pictures of it, didn't

01:33:18.500 really think anything of it. Uh, this by, this place, by the way, is like a mile from a military

01:33:24.340 facility, a U.S. Army Reserve garrison. And later, Philip was able to connect the dots between two

01:33:32.700 individuals arrested in Carmel, Maine. Uh, one of them was, uh, Weizan Huang and, uh, film from a

01:33:41.400 Chinese Communist Party event in New York where two of these individuals who were arrested,

01:33:46.160 their mugshots, they're on video at this event. And then Weizan Huang is featured, while he's out

01:33:51.660 on bail, by the way, is featured in Chinese state-run media, uh, back in his hometown doing

01:33:57.860 classic United Front work, talking about how he's going to come back to the United States

01:34:01.580 and he's going to bring home the bacon for his hometown, bring home American investment

01:34:04.960 for his people, um, based, and he is the executive director of the association that those shirts

01:34:11.100 were linked to. So thanks to, I guess, you know, the, the work we did on the ground and

01:34:16.780 Philip's advanced knowledge of, of Cantonese Mandarin, the culture, the language, and how these

01:34:21.980 Chinese benevolent associations work. They're all front groups, by the way. You know, the Chinese

01:34:26.260 consulate in New York should be gone. It should not be allowed to be operating in the United

01:34:30.220 States. Like the president of the United States should close it down immediately. All those

01:34:34.060 Chinese consulates, they're like military bases from a hostile foreign power. They should

01:34:38.260 be gone. And New York should not be allowed to, uh, issue licenses to foreign nationals

01:34:43.580 because it's hurting every other state. But thanks to driver's licenses, their identity

01:34:49.480 documents, the state of New York is printing, uh, false identity documents for criminal

01:34:53.880 organizations, aiding and abetting them. They're all coming here with driver's licenses

01:34:57.660 from New York. And, you know, a month later they get a license to grow marijuana here in

01:35:01.640 the state of Maine. And it's, it's a mess.

01:35:04.280 But we're spending our time arguing about Israel and Iran and all the rest when the

01:35:07.900 country's dying. It's the amount of energy that's being expended on things that don't

01:35:12.360 really matter that much to the exclusion of things that really do matter. Life and death

01:35:15.920 questions like the ones you're describing is really upsetting.

01:35:18.280 And Iranians never come taking a shit in my hometown like the Chinese communists are.

01:35:24.680 Yeah. Uh, you know, nobody, nobody, nobody from my high school classes died from Iranian

01:35:30.180 fentanyl. Uh, you know, I guess, you know, they're, I guess if we take out their nuclear

01:35:36.600 program, are we committing ourselves to a permanent technological subjugation of the Iranians

01:35:41.420 forever? Are we going to forever? Are we going to a hundred, a thousand years from now going

01:35:45.540 to be keeping them no nuclear weapons? Is that what we're going to do? Because they're

01:35:49.420 going to be pretty pissed off if you go take them out now. Is that the position? Not to

01:35:53.940 stray outside of my, my lane of expertise.

01:35:56.720 I don't think that anybody, uh, advocating for this cares because they don't care about

01:36:00.780 the country in the first place.

01:36:02.060 Yeah. Well, war is, war is profitable.

01:36:04.140 Yeah.

01:36:04.540 I wish that it was as profitable. Like, how do you make it profitable to just enforce the

01:36:10.480 laws that we already have here in the state of Maine? Like, how do you just enforce

01:36:15.320 the laws against people who are engaging in tax evasion? They're breaking the marijuana

01:36:19.880 laws. They're breaking the environmental laws. In some cases, they're jumping their meter

01:36:23.660 to steal electricity. They're, you know,

01:36:26.880 There's not one Indian owned convenience store that I've ever been to in Maine that's following

01:36:30.480 tax laws. I mean, that's just a fact. So.

01:36:33.000 Why aren't they being, why aren't they being audited? We have the Maine Revenue Services,

01:36:36.380 you know, they should be following up on that.

01:36:38.240 Yeah. So, um, here's my question. You were speaking earlier about the unequal application of

01:36:43.780 the law in the state along racial lines. Um, so these grows are just proceeding unimpeded.

01:36:51.100 There's no real penalty. People are dying. Nobody cares. States being poisoned. Nobody

01:36:55.160 cares. Janet Missile's brother's making money from it. It's great. Media won't report on it.

01:36:59.220 What would happen to you if you torched one of these places? Like it's in your town.

01:37:03.080 It's next to your house. There's a grow. You burn it down. No one's hurt, but you eliminate

01:37:08.860 that problem from your town. What would happen to you if you did that?

01:37:13.240 I would have a very good alibi.

01:37:16.160 Right.

01:37:17.180 I guess let me, let me rephrase.

01:37:20.780 And I want to say, I'm not even going to bother to save the record. I'm not encouraging that. It's

01:37:24.140 not up to me. So I'm not getting involved in what people would do or not do.

01:37:26.940 One of them burned down, by the way, just, uh, last Friday.

01:37:29.920 Yeah.

01:37:30.300 In Wilton.

01:37:30.800 Yeah. A big one, a big one. And, uh, I was inside it. And, uh.

01:37:35.800 After it burned. Yeah. After it burned. I have an alibi for the time.

01:37:39.980 Wait, let me just finish my question.

01:37:41.620 I'm just saying, anytime something happens to one of these, I have an alibi. I'll just

01:37:45.120 state that for, I don't know what it is yet.

01:37:47.180 You're out of state.

01:37:48.160 I was with Tucker.

01:37:51.040 But if, uh, if you were caught doing that, I guess, let me just say, you're busted by the

01:37:55.040 police, the same police who didn't bust the Chinese drug cartel that was running the

01:37:58.740 place. What would happen to you?

01:38:00.220 I think I would go to jail for a very long time and probably under hate crime statutes.

01:38:04.380 My, um, my jail sentence would be increased. Um, uh, you know, it would be the, uh, uh,

01:38:12.300 a racist act of violence, uh, against a marginalized community.

01:38:17.440 Marginalized community being the Chinese drug cartel.

01:38:19.060 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, that's what I think would happen.

01:38:22.820 How long has your family been in Maine?

01:38:24.960 Uh, six, seven generations. I mean, since it was in Massachusetts. I mean, as far back as-

01:38:31.500 That was 1820, 200 years ago.

01:38:33.020 Yeah. I mean, as, as, as far back as we care to look at that stuff. I don't know. I, my,

01:38:38.480 one of my grandfather's, my grandfather's father was adopted. So there's, uh, uh, some,

01:38:44.940 some empty spaces there. So we don't know, but I mean, as far back as we've been able to,

01:38:49.460 yeah, research.

01:38:50.400 Yeah. So a foreign drug cartel can come to your town, destroy the town.

01:38:53.680 Yeah.

01:38:54.120 Commit crimes in plain sight.

01:38:55.780 Yeah.

01:38:56.620 There's nothing anybody can do about it. But if having watched the total collapse of law enforcement,

01:39:02.360 you decide to enforce the law informally by getting rid of the drug house, not hurting anyone,

01:39:06.860 but just destroying the property, you go to jail.

01:39:10.600 Yeah.

01:39:12.280 That's, that's tyranny, right?

01:39:15.700 Or what would happen if I went to China and decided, hey, I'm going to go grow a bunch of pot

01:39:19.600 and sell it illegally all around. Oh, and it's going to be poisoned too, with poisons that I've

01:39:24.060 illegally shipped in from, uh, the, the United States. Not saying we want to become any more

01:39:28.820 like China, but the, uh, the unequal application of the laws is so obvious that it is going to

01:39:36.680 encourage this, what you're talking about, vigilantism, because you have, it's marijuana

01:39:42.180 in Maine is such a huge business. Uh, you know, we're known for lobsters, blueberries, whatever.

01:39:46.520 But if you look at it in terms of economic value, and if you'd add the gray market and the black

01:39:51.320 market to what's actually being taxed, it's way bigger than blueberries, lobster, and potatoes

01:39:56.820 combined in terms of its economic value for the state. And there are a lot of people who

01:40:02.040 have spent their considerable amount of their time, energy, and treasure trying to build businesses

01:40:07.800 around this, following the rules, doing the right thing, trying to follow these weird, murky, hard

01:40:12.820 to follow regulations, uh, that change all the time. And the regulators are punitive. And if you

01:40:17.960 complain about them on Instagram, they're going to give you a surprise inspection and write you a

01:40:21.840 ticket only if you're white and all of these business owners are being put under because of

01:40:29.900 the unequal enforcement of the laws, because the dumping of the Chinese grown marijuana, which

01:40:36.080 comes with all these built-in cost advantages. You don't have to pay your laborers. You can steal

01:40:40.800 electricity. You can use pesticides and fungicides. You can grow way over the plant limits. You have no

01:40:45.100 regulatory compliance costs. So you can go sell your product for half what the legal main business

01:40:51.040 owners can sell. So they're going bankrupt and they're looking at a government that's not

01:40:56.640 enforcing the laws equally. And if you don't think that they're contemplating vigilantism,

01:41:01.540 you're crazy. They absolutely are. They absolutely are.

01:41:04.760 Why wouldn't they just pay off Janet Mills' brother even more than the

01:41:07.760 Chinese drug cartels are paying him?

01:41:11.100 I don't know. I don't know what that would accomplish. You know, I mean, I don't know if

01:41:15.220 they've considered it. I don't know if, I don't know if she's open to, uh, to, to bribes from the

01:41:19.360 other side. I do know that, um, the highest ranking official in the New York, uh, the

01:41:23.880 Chinese New York consulate was here for her inauguration in 2019.

01:41:27.760 What?

01:41:30.640 Can you restate that?

01:41:32.200 The highest ranking official for the Chinese consulate in New York was at her inauguration.

01:41:38.860 Janet Mills' inauguration.

01:41:39.960 Janet Mills' inauguration in 2019.

01:41:41.460 What in the world would a communist Chinese official from New York be doing at Janet Mills'

01:41:45.740 inauguration as governor of Maine? That doesn't make any sense at all.

01:41:49.240 Uh, according to Chinese state-run media, uh, taking meetings with, uh, Senate President

01:41:54.100 Troy Jackson, uh, Matt Dunlap, the current state auditor, uh, former Secretary of State

01:41:59.140 had just returned from a trip to China, um, hailing the inauguration of the first female

01:42:04.460 governor of the state of Maine.

01:42:05.860 How's that gone, by the way?

01:42:08.980 Objectively, I think that we have yet to devise a measure of political science or social

01:42:14.400 science by which you could say the state has improved under Janet Mills.

01:42:19.640 If they found one, I, I, I can't, I can't tell you.

01:42:24.180 Oh.

01:42:24.960 You know, nothing's gotten better.

01:42:26.920 I think that the, the best example of the people of Maine lacking the immune system to

01:42:33.040 repel something like this is Woodville, Maine, which is a town of maybe 300, 350 people.

01:42:39.680 Where is it?

01:42:40.040 Uh, it's Penobscot County, um, Northern Penobscot County, uh, maybe 45 minutes to an hour north

01:42:46.080 of Bangor.

01:42:47.000 Pretty town.

01:42:48.100 Pretty, very rural, you know, really just like one road going through it.

01:42:51.520 Um, and a lot of dirt roads and, uh, they've got a three person selectman, uh, Manfred's

01:42:57.340 the chief selectman, great guy, no nonsense manner.

01:43:00.080 You'd love him.

01:43:00.500 He'd fit in around here.

01:43:01.940 Um, and they had an obnoxious Chinese marijuana grow right next to their town office and you

01:43:08.460 can see right next to their town office.

01:43:10.800 You can smell it.

01:43:11.400 In Woodville, Maine.

01:43:12.240 Yeah.

01:43:12.540 An hour north of Bangor, which itself is like far from the Massachusetts border.

01:43:16.840 Yeah.

01:43:17.040 The country border.

01:43:17.620 It's a long way.

01:43:18.160 Yeah.

01:43:18.300 And, uh, this used to be a lumber mill or a sawmill.

01:43:24.760 It was like the day's mill, um, back in a, in a, in a former Maine, it was a prosperous

01:43:30.000 business that, you know, made lumber and wood for people to build homes so that middle-class

01:43:34.180 families could live in them instead of growing marijuana in them.

01:43:37.040 And, uh, this place was obnoxious.

01:43:39.540 There was, uh, you know, effluent always running across the road.

01:43:42.180 Um, the people were angry and mean and nasty and they, you know, they wouldn't pay their

01:43:47.160 taxes and then someone would show up from New York and just slap $100 bills on the counter

01:43:51.780 until the, you know, clerk said, okay, the taxes are paid and then leave.

01:43:57.320 Uh, and at one point they had to call the animal control officer because there was a,

01:44:02.160 um, Cantonese speaking individual out in the front yard beating a border collie with

01:44:07.740 a stick and I-

01:44:10.840 a border collie with a stick and-

01:44:13.760 So why didn't the townspeople shoot him?

01:44:18.740 You'd have to ask Manfred.

01:44:21.220 Look, I'm not, I don't want to be judgmental, but you can't, I mean, that, that like crosses

01:44:25.540 so many lines that you give up your, your right to life at that point, I would say.

01:44:30.460 They took the dog away.

01:44:32.000 I mean, the dog is, you know, was clearly very severely abused when the animal control

01:44:36.400 officer show up, showed up, the guy just picked up the dog, threw him over and said,

01:44:39.880 take him, no good, no good.

01:44:42.800 And, uh, I could see going into the town council meetings that I could see this happening, like

01:44:52.940 the lack of an immune system to repel what was happening and cross the line from journalists

01:44:59.440 to, it's like, I don't know, local activists.

01:45:05.280 And I was like, why don't you guys just write an ordinance that says that you can declare

01:45:10.520 that an illegal cannabis business and start fining them $10,000 a day until they shut

01:45:14.740 it down.

01:45:15.360 And if they don't pay the fine, then you put a lien against the property and turn off the

01:45:20.180 electricity.

01:45:20.580 Because if they can't have electricity, they can't grow marijuana.

01:45:23.660 If they can't grow marijuana, they can't make money.

01:45:25.740 They will leave.

01:45:26.460 Just write an ordinance and do that.

01:45:28.200 And they were like, geez, that's not a bad idea.

01:45:31.300 And they wrote the ordinance and they passed the ordinance.

01:45:35.060 And 30 days later, I reached out and they were like, well, how do we enforce the ordinance?

01:45:41.560 Well, get your code enforcement officer, as the ordinance says, get your code enforcement

01:45:44.480 officer to go declare it from an exterior inspection and illegal cannabis business and start issuing

01:45:49.740 the fines.

01:45:51.020 And they're like, well, geez, I don't know if our code enforcement officer will do that.

01:45:55.080 She's got a couple of towns she deals with.

01:45:57.440 I don't know.

01:45:58.920 I still don't know what the status of it is.

01:46:00.720 But these guys, this particular marijuana grow ended up applying for a license with the

01:46:05.920 Office of Cannabis Policy to grow legally.

01:46:08.780 And when the inspector showed up, they were already growing hundreds of plants.

01:46:13.220 And they couldn't explain to them that that's illegal and you're disqualifying for getting

01:46:18.560 a license.

01:46:19.880 But this is like the one place that ended up not getting a legal license after being

01:46:25.820 caught growing marijuana illegally.

01:46:28.840 But it's still owned by Chinese nationals because these are effective real estate investments

01:46:34.220 too.

01:46:35.080 The real estate's an effective way to hide capital from the Chinese government itself.

01:46:40.880 That's happening all over the United States.

01:46:42.700 And it's really affecting residential real estate prices, of course.

01:46:46.420 And it's not just China that's dumping money here as a safe haven and destroying the ability

01:46:51.580 of our kids to buy houses.

01:46:53.680 You said something off camera, which I hope you will elaborate on a little bit.

01:46:57.920 So one of, I think, people listening to this who aren't familiar with northern New England

01:47:02.120 might say, well, wow, you know, the people sound pretty passive in the face of the total

01:47:06.820 destruction of their state, their way of life, their culture, their economy, the land itself.

01:47:12.180 How could they put up with that?

01:47:14.680 And you said something.

01:47:16.560 Oh, I think this is fair.

01:47:18.560 You said the best part of Maine is that people are instinctively hesitant to bother other people.

01:47:24.800 But that's also a weakness.

01:47:26.640 Yeah.

01:47:27.080 I mean, you, Mainers don't want people up in their shit.

01:47:32.120 Yeah.

01:47:32.300 So they don't get up and other people's shit.

01:47:35.260 Nicely put.

01:47:36.580 You know, and I'll say that there are, I was more scared knocking on some of the doors

01:47:43.920 that I knew Mainers owned the properties because they might answer with a gun.

01:47:48.520 You know, for sure.

01:47:49.300 The Chinese, the individuals who are at these facilities growing marijuana, it's my belief,

01:47:54.300 most of, in most cases, they are victims of exploitation by criminal organizations.

01:47:59.920 They're being paid maybe $1,000 a month.

01:48:03.620 You know, they're being exposed to chemicals that they have no idea what the consequences

01:48:08.940 of that will be, the mold.

01:48:10.840 They're living in conditions that any American would look at and be like, that's slavery or

01:48:14.920 that's, you know, human trafficking.

01:48:16.500 That is unreal, but they could be doing it voluntarily.

01:48:19.840 I still think that they're victims, but they're very servile in most cases when you try to ask

01:48:27.140 them questions or interview them and they can't speak English or they pretend they can't speak

01:48:31.060 English and they call someone in New York and do an interview over the phone and they

01:48:34.920 don't want to answer any questions.

01:48:37.060 But they very much, the people who are operating this know about that culture in Main and they

01:48:45.380 exploit it for a reason.

01:48:47.500 They're very, like, they came to Maine with a playbook that they'd run previously in Washington

01:48:52.320 State, in California, in Oklahoma, to camouflage themselves within legal marijuana programs.

01:48:57.800 But they knew that once they got to Maine, there was going to be this live and let live

01:49:01.720 type culture.

01:49:03.220 Yes.

01:49:03.380 And they took advantage of it.

01:49:04.260 And that's what pisses me off so much.

01:49:05.740 And the Yankee Reserve that, you know, it's got the highest incidence of English ancestry of any state

01:49:10.020 is what the world has done to Great Britain, you know, in the same dynamic.

01:49:15.380 Like, you come in living off the charity of the people who built the country and then you give

01:49:20.780 them the finger, then you destroy what they built, then you take more money from them and they do

01:49:25.140 nothing.

01:49:25.880 And the only people who speak up about it get arrested for speaking about it.

01:49:29.600 Like, because it's, you're leveraging Anglo politeness against the Anglos.

01:49:34.140 It's what you're doing.

01:49:34.760 Yeah.

01:49:35.540 And I mean, they even have a word for, what is it, like, Bazo, the white liberals.

01:49:40.620 They're very strategically taking advantage of this hesitant, this deep-seated fear amongst

01:49:47.520 white people in Maine to be labeled as a racist or described as a racist.

01:49:53.200 And there's this, even this stereotype about this, you know, rural redneck.

01:49:57.320 And it's true of Maine and it's true of any other state, like these rural people.

01:50:00.580 The deep south, yeah.

01:50:01.080 Yeah.

01:50:01.400 These people are just racist.

01:50:02.620 And I encountered over and over and over again in every county that I went to, people

01:50:08.160 who went out of their way to be as fucking nice to these people as they possibly could.

01:50:14.240 In Franklin County, there was a guy who plowed them out for like two years because they needed

01:50:22.040 to have the driveway clean.

01:50:23.800 Explain what plowed out means.

01:50:25.300 Sorry.

01:50:26.900 It snows in Maine.

01:50:28.440 For people who are unfamiliar, it snows.

01:50:30.700 The Chinese were apparently unfamiliar with that.

01:50:33.420 So this was what a challenge they had to surmount as they're trying to make a marijuana pickup.

01:50:39.080 When the U-Haul or the Sprinter van is coming to pick up, you know, 500 pounds of marijuana,

01:50:43.380 you can't have two feet of snow in the driveway.

01:50:45.340 So there was actually a marijuana grow that was on the Department of Homeland Security's list.

01:50:52.580 And this is in Chesterville, Maine.

01:50:55.220 It was, I think, 200 West Road.

01:50:59.360 And they needed help plowing.

01:51:03.240 So this Chinese guy walks up the driveway of their neighbors and holds out a phone.

01:51:07.400 And it's a woman in New York who negotiates an arrangement where they plow the guy out.

01:51:11.620 And so they'd bring their tractor down and plow the driveway.

01:51:14.800 And they did that for them for free.

01:51:17.500 Like, they didn't even negotiate like a price.

01:51:19.600 They were just like, yeah, we'll go plow you out.

01:51:20.840 You're a neighbor.

01:51:21.680 They did that for them.

01:51:22.580 That's what they're like.

01:51:23.080 Because they were just like, it was a guy who...

01:51:24.860 And in return, the Chinese poisoned their children.

01:51:28.700 Yeah.

01:51:29.300 Sorry, it's just true.

01:51:30.120 But you've described the way every rural community, probably in the country, but certainly...

01:51:34.380 No, they later abused that relationship to the point where the woman who was living at that property,

01:51:41.980 I think she's in her 60s, a young Chinese man, maybe 20s or 30s,

01:51:48.520 came over and asked the elderly Chinese woman if she would go mow the lawn for them.

01:52:00.420 So, last question.

01:52:02.100 It doesn't seem like, and you're the expert on politics in the state,

01:52:06.640 but it seems like it's pretty hard to make a change.

01:52:11.960 You know, the governor's leaving in the next election, thank God.

01:52:15.180 But, however, there are a lot of people like the governor in state government,

01:52:19.240 like the whole state government.

01:52:20.480 Not the whole, but a lot of it is truly corrupt.

01:52:24.880 So, I don't know.

01:52:25.880 I'm not that confident that anyone in Maine is going to fix Maine's problems.

01:52:29.180 Can the feds do anything?

01:52:30.640 Can the Trump Justice Department begin to fix this problem?

01:52:35.100 Yes, absolutely.

01:52:37.360 And I think that you're seeing glimmers of that.

01:52:41.080 I mean, it's fun to fight about the tranny stuff, okay?

01:52:43.480 Yeah.

01:52:44.500 But if you've got military-age male Chinese in uniform,

01:52:50.440 you know, throughout the state,

01:52:52.680 you've got thousands of Chinese here illegally working for drug cartels,

01:52:55.700 like that's a national security threat, no?

01:52:57.260 They control the former Maine National Guard base in Gardner.

01:53:00.260 What?

01:53:00.880 Yeah.

01:53:01.680 It's a former Maine National Guard base.

01:53:03.220 It was decommissioned and sold.

01:53:05.160 It's a big brick military garrison surrounded by barbed wire,

01:53:08.920 but there's an illegal Chinese marijuana grow operating out of that.

01:53:11.560 It's about two miles from the statehouse.

01:53:17.700 Actually?

01:53:18.460 Yeah.

01:53:19.700 And just down the road from there,

01:53:20.860 there's another one that is operating out of an old meat walker.

01:53:24.500 It used to be run by Johnny Wu.

01:53:26.240 Johnny Wu lost his license.

01:53:27.780 Ben Wang came in,

01:53:28.920 and now it's operating under her license.

01:53:30.540 Okay, sorry.

01:53:35.940 We've been talking for almost two hours,

01:53:37.660 and every sentence shocks me.

01:53:42.440 Okay, I think you've established this as an imminent national security threat.

01:53:47.680 So what could the feds do,

01:53:48.880 and why haven't they done anything?

01:53:49.720 They need to treat it like a national security threat, first of all.

01:53:53.260 I think that there's maybe an illusion that Maine doesn't have anything that's a vital national security interest,

01:54:00.700 but there are international internet lines that run through Maine.

01:54:08.080 There's Bath Iron Works, a defense contractor here.

01:54:12.000 There's some military facilities,

01:54:13.920 and there's a huge, like a 5,000 acre,

01:54:18.240 I guess, National Guard complex in Woodville,

01:54:23.120 the town where the Border Collie was being beat.

01:54:25.860 Well, there are also, like, training facilities in Maine that are, like, widely known.

01:54:32.520 There's the longest runway, I think, in North America,

01:54:35.720 bomber runway in Bangor.

01:54:37.700 It also has an incredibly long international border.

01:54:40.640 Plus, it's an American state.

01:54:42.580 Yeah.

01:54:43.220 One of the oldest American states.

01:54:45.140 It needs to be treated like a national security threat,

01:54:47.220 and the northern border needs to be treated with the same seriousness

01:54:50.700 that the southern border is, particularly our northeast border.

01:54:54.920 Right now, we have basically the thin blue line protecting America

01:55:01.140 from illegal aliens from Jordan or from Algeria or from China

01:55:06.920 from sneaking across the Maine border

01:55:09.440 are, like, 19- and 20-year-old cops from Fort Fairfield, Maine,

01:55:14.200 happening to pull somebody over and see something that's not right

01:55:17.760 and bring in CB2.

01:55:19.120 Well, yeah, especially China controls Canada.

01:55:22.060 I mean, Canada is now a colony of China,

01:55:23.920 which can be used for its resources, obviously.

01:55:26.860 And they're exploiting that border.

01:55:28.600 So, to answer the question about what can the feds do,

01:55:31.560 treat it like a national security issue.

01:55:33.820 That's what you can do.

01:55:35.160 They've moved to seize...

01:55:36.240 Is that more effective than fighting about trannies?

01:55:41.140 You know, a tranny has never, you know, tried to kill me.

01:55:45.660 Yeah, I mean, I'm not for trannies.

01:55:46.800 I mean, I spent many, many hours on TV

01:55:49.400 barking about trannies, but like...

01:55:50.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:51.600 Okay.

01:55:52.020 Now this is real.

01:55:53.780 Let's get real.

01:55:54.560 In the scale of...

01:55:55.040 In the scope of things that are affecting the quality of life

01:55:57.700 and the people of Maine,

01:55:59.020 the transgender athletes,

01:56:01.820 with all due respect to the female athletes

01:56:04.400 who lose to the male athletes

01:56:06.460 who are pretending to be women,

01:56:08.000 it's not as big as this.

01:56:09.860 Not at all.

01:56:10.860 No.

01:56:11.220 It's not.

01:56:11.860 Yeah, exactly.

01:56:12.840 And it needs to be treated like a national security threat

01:56:16.140 and there needs to be a whole of government response to it.

01:56:18.540 You need to use the Environmental Protection Agency

01:56:20.360 to go after these facilities

01:56:21.500 that we know are using unregistered poisons.

01:56:24.920 The problem is,

01:56:25.560 is that the weed scammers are not just Chinese.

01:56:29.540 They're American too.

01:56:30.740 And there's a lot of...

01:56:32.400 There's so much money.

01:56:33.740 I know.

01:56:34.180 I know.

01:56:34.320 I mean, I have a million friends who grow marijuana.

01:56:36.840 I'm not against everyone who grows marijuana.

01:56:38.780 I'm saying,

01:56:40.300 I know a lot of people who grow marijuana,

01:56:43.300 I think because they're afraid to smoke marijuana

01:56:44.800 from the Chinese drug cartels because it's poison.

01:56:47.680 With good reason.

01:56:48.380 Or whatever.

01:56:49.020 This is an agricultural state.

01:56:50.300 A lot of people grow marijuana.

01:56:51.080 Yeah.

01:56:51.480 I don't use it, but I get it.

01:56:53.980 I'm talking about like the organized money interests

01:56:57.960 in the United States

01:56:58.680 who are constantly lobbying the federal government

01:57:01.160 for their own economic benefit.

01:57:03.660 Yeah.

01:57:04.120 Right?

01:57:04.640 Yeah.

01:57:04.960 A lot of that.

01:57:05.540 Yeah.

01:57:05.800 Billions of dollars of that.

01:57:06.840 Well, I would say, you know,

01:57:09.300 Bobby Kennedy should treat this

01:57:11.240 like a national health emergency.

01:57:13.120 It is.

01:57:14.460 Whatever your feelings are on legal marijuana,

01:57:16.800 it's here.

01:57:17.780 It's happening.

01:57:18.500 People are consuming it.

01:57:19.420 It's more popular.

01:57:20.160 There are more daily active marijuana users

01:57:22.180 than daily active alcohol users.

01:57:24.680 This happened just, I think,

01:57:25.720 within the last year or two.

01:57:27.380 So it's happening.

01:57:28.740 And to the extent that these illicit Chinese poisons

01:57:31.660 are making it into that supply,

01:57:33.200 it is a national health emergency

01:57:34.680 and it needs to be responded to it just like that.

01:57:38.900 But there's also,

01:57:40.820 there are powerful economic interests

01:57:42.560 that align with what the Chinese are doing

01:57:45.040 in the Baptists and bootleggers fashion.

01:57:48.140 Like there are marijuana companies

01:57:50.280 that want to become the Bud Light

01:57:51.520 or Coors Light of marijuana.

01:57:53.000 What do they benefit from?

01:57:54.420 A harsh, strict regulatory environment

01:57:56.860 that they can comply with easily,

01:58:00.540 costs that they have the capital to deal with,

01:58:03.180 but the little mom and pop cannabis producers don't.

01:58:06.340 So they tolerate and allow

01:58:08.400 and maybe encourage

01:58:10.160 this kind of wild, wild west

01:58:11.820 of which the Chinese marijuana growers are a part

01:58:13.960 because they know

01:58:15.060 that the Chinese criminal organizations

01:58:17.160 polluting the marijuana environment in Maine

01:58:19.480 will lead to calls

01:58:20.880 for greater regulatory crackdown

01:58:23.120 and a compliance regime

01:58:24.760 that works favorable

01:58:25.960 to their long-term economic interests.

01:58:28.360 So there are, you know,

01:58:29.900 wealthy companies

01:58:31.360 that give a lot of money to politicians.

01:58:33.800 I would look into

01:58:34.500 who are the biggest donors

01:58:37.260 to Governor Janet Mills'

01:58:39.240 inaugural committee in 2019.

01:58:41.740 Who were they?

01:58:42.640 Big cannabis companies.

01:58:46.580 I should just say

01:58:47.760 you're the son of a man

01:58:50.820 who worked at the shoe factory,

01:58:52.000 but you have a fancy college degree.

01:58:53.260 You've got a million different

01:58:54.700 potential life paths

01:58:56.420 and you've chosen to stay in Maine

01:58:58.180 and do this job

01:58:59.180 making much less

01:59:00.320 than you could have made

01:59:01.060 if you'd left

01:59:02.320 with your college degree.

01:59:04.340 And I'm just grateful

01:59:05.440 that you did that.

01:59:06.960 Well, thank you.

01:59:07.420 This is making a difference.

01:59:08.760 Thank you.

01:59:09.140 I'm grateful for the help

01:59:11.720 and encouragement

01:59:12.240 that you've given me

01:59:13.820 and, you know,

01:59:15.260 the attention to be here.

01:59:16.540 Well, no one else is doing it.

01:59:17.540 I know.

01:59:17.980 That's crazy.

01:59:19.400 Why is it falling to you

01:59:20.580 to do this?

01:59:21.340 Honestly, honestly, Tucker,

01:59:22.440 you're like my psychotherapist

01:59:23.840 because, you know,

01:59:24.960 I feel like I'm Mugatu

01:59:26.900 and Zoolanders.

01:59:27.660 I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

01:59:28.940 as I drive around

01:59:29.780 and I see all these marijuana sites.

01:59:31.120 I'm like,

01:59:31.780 how has it taken this long

01:59:33.660 for somebody to tell this story?

01:59:36.200 So for finally,

01:59:36.920 for somebody else to be like,

01:59:38.380 yeah, that is a fascinating story.

01:59:40.200 It feels gratifying

01:59:41.860 to the work that we've done.

01:59:44.120 And I have to say that.

01:59:44.960 I mean, it's been like a team-wide work

01:59:49.100 that my reporters have,

01:59:51.080 you know, had to tolerate me

01:59:52.360 just disappearing into the woods

01:59:53.620 of Maine

01:59:54.000 where there's no cell phone signal

01:59:55.260 for days at a time

01:59:56.260 to do some of this work.

01:59:57.940 And our digital media producer,

01:59:59.780 Graham Pollard,

02:00:00.660 he's one of the best in the country

02:00:02.040 and he single-handedly put together

02:00:03.920 the documentary that we made on this.

02:00:05.900 And he's just so wildly talented.

02:00:08.280 And a lot of this,

02:00:08.960 I don't think I could have done

02:00:10.420 without their help

02:00:11.680 and their assistance.

02:00:12.280 And also the readers

02:00:14.280 and supporters of our organization,

02:00:18.580 The Maine Wire,

02:00:19.280 and a lot of the people

02:00:20.460 who were very brave

02:00:21.940 and gave us tips anonymously.

02:00:23.620 People in government,

02:00:25.300 people who work for utility companies,

02:00:27.440 town officials,

02:00:28.520 you know,

02:00:28.700 once the initial story started coming out,

02:00:31.800 people came to us

02:00:32.640 with a lot of harrowing information

02:00:35.420 that they were too scared

02:00:37.000 to put their name to,

02:00:39.000 but ended up being very useful to us

02:00:41.000 in connecting the dots

02:00:42.200 and being able to tell the story

02:00:44.940 that we've told.

02:00:45.740 Godspeed, man.

02:00:48.060 I think you're in danger

02:00:49.520 and I know that you know

02:00:50.600 you are in danger.

02:00:51.380 So thank you for doing this anyway.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - July 10, 2025

Steve Robinson Exposes the Chinese Mafia’s Secret Drug Empire in the US & the Politicians Involved

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