Tara Reade says Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993. After talking publicly about it, she says she's so fearful for her well-being that she left the country and moved to Moscow.
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Former Vice President Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault by a former White House intern named Tara Reade. She s suing him and the Department of Justice for misconduct. But what happened to the sealed case against him? And why is he the target of a sealed criminal investigation by the U.S. Government? Tucker and his co-host discuss this and much more in this exclusive interview with former VP Joe Biden s lawyer, Jillian Manus, on today s episode of "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on the Tucker Carlson Tonight Show. Tucker and Tucker also discuss why he s suing the DOJ and why he thinks it s a good idea to take matters into his own hands and take matters to court, and what he hopes to achieve in the process. Tucker is a regular contributor to CNN and the New York Times and is a frequent guest on CNN's "Meet the Press" and NBC's "Today" show. He is also a frequent contributor on ABC's "Good Morning America" and CNN's Hard Knocks. He is the author of the book, "Joe Biden's Secretly Quiet: The Secret Life of Joe Biden." and is the host of the podcast, "The Joe Biden Show: The Inside Joe Biden Story." He has a new book out now, and it's out in paperback! which you can buy on Amazon Prime and wherever else you get your copy of the new paperback edition of his new novel, Joe Biden's new novel "The White House Correspondent's Notebook, The White House Journalist." You can also get a copy of his book, The Joe Biden Rule. by clicking here. You can read the book on Amazon here. here here and there, here and here, here and here here, and here at The Root on Audible, here at Audible thank you, wherever you re listening to this podcast on the internet. and everywhere else you re reading this podcast is listening to it, too, you can find it on your favorite podcast on your smart phone or listening to the show, and you can watch it on the pod, or you can check out our social media pages on the web, and more than you can listen to it on Apple Podcasts, and other places you might be listening to your favorite streaming service, and all of your other good listening choices, and more. Thank you for listening to The Tucker Carlson Podcast?
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Hey, it's Tucker Carlson. Welcome to our podcast. The main way that corporate media lied to you
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of past episodes. Here's today's. So your lawyers have sued the Biden Department of Justice for
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misconduct. Tell us about the suit, why you filed it, what you hope to achieve by it.
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Yeah, well, my attorney actually had filed a complaint with the inspector general
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about the way I was treated by the FBI and DOJ and how they were harassing me.
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And they didn't receive a response. Surprise, surprise. So after we waited, there was no
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response. He filed a tort claim and it's for $10 million. And the basically what the outcome will
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be, hopefully, is that they will open my FBI files and then expunge them. And the criminal case that
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has been opened against me in Northern California, the one that's sealed, will be revealed. And because
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that was opened by DOJ and FBI, where they took all my Twitter communications, now X, it's called, but Gmail,
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you name it, all my social media was taken under sealed warrants. The only reason I know about the sealed
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warrants and it was publicized is because a Twitter lawyer had called and told me that this has happened and
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they had made a motion in court to tell me. And so this case had impaneled a grand jury. So it went
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pretty far. So it's just like shy of indictment. But what are they going to indict me for? Well,
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they won't tell me. Now, as an American citizen, that's infuriating, right?
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But I think a lot of, I am confused. I think a lot of people watching this are confused.
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You, of course, are most famous for recounting in public your experience of sexual assault. And I
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think it was a sexual assault by then Senator Joe Biden in an elevator when you worked for him.
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Not an elevator, a quarter. A quarter. I beg your pardon. And unlike a lot of people who make
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these claims, you have contemporaneous evidence in your mother's call to Larry King Live, which
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came out years later. It's an amazing story. And I think it's a credible story. But what did you do
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wrong? How did you wind up the subject of a sealed potential indictment of a criminal investigation by
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the U.S. government? What was your crime? I think not shutting up. I think because I just
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wouldn't stop talking. I kept trying to push for an investigation. If you recall, Jen Psaki,
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she was asked one question one time. Peter Juicy, I think, asked the question and said, you know,
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about me, about Tara Reade. And she said, oh, that's been litigated. It was never litigated. She lied
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outright. It's never been litigated. It's never been investigated. You know, and I was asking for an
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investigating. All they did was pay money to have media hit pieces done on me. But of course they
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did. And you were attacked. The whole believe all women thing turned out not to be true, I guess.
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Right. No, no, it's not true. There's no me too. There's no me too. But a criminal investigation
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into you is a completely separate category. Yeah. And really an escalation of a kind most Americans
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can't understand. Like, why would they possibly be criminally investigating you? Do you know?
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Well, there were two. Yeah. I mean, the first one was for perjury when I was an expert witness. And
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it took me lawyers and thousands of dollars to clear that. They had to drop that case. And then
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they came at me with a sealed case, which I can't do anything about because I'm not even supposed to
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know about it. And this is the federal government? Federal, the DOJ, FBI. And so-
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So Soviet, it's hard to believe what you're saying is true, but I think it's checkable.
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There's a sealed case against you. They're investigating you for a crime. They won't
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But it clearly is a felony or they claim it's a felony. Right.
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Correct? And I posted the sealed warrant. And that's been in the media. So the sealed warrant is
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visible. You can see the case number. Journalists have tried to look it up. My attorneys tried to
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look it up. No one will tell them what it is. Then they started coming at me in more subvert ways,
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which was, you know, basically harassment, death threats, particularly it amped up when
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Marjorie Taylor Greene and Representative Matt Gaetz asked me to testify in the whistleblowers panel.
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Like I was going to talk about how difficult it is to be a whistleblower because I had been so
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targeted. And then when I was about to testify, you know, I'll get to that part. But when I was
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about to testify, things really amped up as far as threats and, and undermining me. And it was hard
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to get a job. People thought I was a security threat. There were, you know, innuendos, you know,
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my reputation was destroyed and we've talked about this. So my attorney basically said, okay,
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that's that, you know, we're, we're going to, you know, file this complaint. Um, and this came
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after, you know, when I was here in Moscow, Russia, I, um, came here to publicize my book and to oversee
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the translation of it. And I did an interview with channel one and, uh, Russian TV channel and channel
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one is sanctioned apparently. And, um, apparently that was, um, I was here for vacation. So I had packed
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literally for, for seven days, five days, um, didn't have much with me. And then about midway
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through, I started getting, um, you know, messages that I was from former intelligence. They were trying
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to get me messages, whistleblowers, like, look, you know, you're in danger of being indicted. If you go
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back, I talked to my lawyers about it. Indicted for what? For FARA, the Foreign Registration Act,
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which is the same thing they went after Maria Boutina for. And Paul Manafort. And Paul Manafort
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and Maria Boutina. If you read, there's a really good article called the spy who wasn't, who really
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lays out why she wasn't a spy. And she wasn't, she's now working for the state Duma, but, um,
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she was definitely targeted, but that set the precedent, Paul Manafort in her case.
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But wait, just to be clear, you're an American who has accused the sitting president of sexually
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assaulting you while you worked for him, uh, as a young woman. And you have evidence to prove that
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that's true. Right. Contemporaneous evidence, which I think is key. And all of a sudden you're the
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criminal because you wind up in a foreign city and you do a TV interview. Is that, am I missing
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something? Well, they, in 2019, if you recall, one of the smears that they made against me was that I
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was a Russian asset, even though I had no ties to Russia, immediately out the gate. That was the Biden
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campaign told that to the New York times. They said that was their first response, not a denial,
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not, you know, anything else. They said, Oh, she's a Russian asset. And that started in 2019 and got
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spread around. And then it continued on and had a life of its own because it was spread by
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former Obama staff, Edward Isaac Dovere, people like that who have some clout on social media and
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people listen. So unfortunately there was that kind of overhanging it. So when I came to Moscow,
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So you make this allegation against the president of the United States, then a candidate,
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um, a credible allegation. Once again, I wouldn't be talking to you if I didn't think it was credible.
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I think it is credible. Um, I think it's true. And they don't even respond. They just accuse you of
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being a traitor to your country. Immediately. That was the first response, not even a denial
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at first. So I thought that was interesting. And the media amplify this. Oh yes. New York
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times amplified it. Washington post did. Um, everyone did, um, politico, you know, they did
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their, they did their due diligence for their, the empire, I guess. Um, I didn't really understand
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the media at that time. Now you have to understand I'm a regular citizen. I don't have a PR team.
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I don't have lawyers. I, now I have a lawyer, but then I didn't, I didn't have resources.
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Where were you living? I was living in California and, um, and I was really naive about, you know,
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the media. And now I understand. I think a lot of people in 2019, 2020 were still a little naive.
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Just to be clear, it sounds like you've been a fairly liberal Democrat your whole life.
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I was, I really had, you know, really believed. I worked for Leon Panetta as an intern. I worked
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for Joe Biden. I worked as a democratic operative on congressional campaigns. Um, I was trained
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by Homeland Security. Um, I was trained by Seattle police to do, to help with domestic violence.
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I was a train, the trainer. Um, I donated my time. I worked for, for Democrats. I believed
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in it, believed in it wholeheartedly. And so it's been heartbreaking when I came forward
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with evidence, how I was treated and how I was still treated. Like to this day, like I just
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get, I mean, I, I get called right now a defector, a traitor. I did back then before I left the U.S.
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I keep stepping on your story and I'm, and I'm sorry. It's just, it's just a remarkable
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story when, when you lay it out and give the timeline, it's just, it's amazing what's
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happened to you. So, so just back to where you were before I interrupted you. So you're
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here on vacation to get a translation of your book done.
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And you do an interview with local TV and then you start getting messages from informed
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people who you trust. Tara, you're in, you're in danger of being indicted. And what happens
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Well, I would be put into a cage because with, with the FAR Act, it's a backdoor into the
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Espionage Act, essentially. It's the Federal Registration Act. So you have to register as
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Registration Act. It's administrative. They never used to even use it, but now they're using
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it as a backdoor into Espionage. So, so, you know, you might recall the Uhura Group, right?
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Right. They're being sentenced this month, up to 10 years in prison. And I've read through
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all their whole legal case. And, you know, I have a lot of grief, so I'm interested in
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those things. And you know what the charge is? Sowing discord. So I want people to really
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hear this because sowing discord shouldn't be a crime and they shouldn't be able, but
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Sowing discord. That's the term under the FARA Act and the backdoor into the Espionage
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Act. And so they're facing up to 10 years in prison or more. Their passports have been
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taken away. The sentencing happens this month. They have no ties to Russia. They simply spoke
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out against the proxy war against, you know, Russia via Ukraine. And for that, they've been
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punished. And, you know, what I want people to hear is that it's not just January 6th people
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It's someone like me that just had a claim against my former employer that should have
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been investigated properly and should have been adjudicated in a proper way. And I should
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So, again, back to the story. You're in Moscow, where we are now, and you hear that you could be
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indicted or punished under the Foreign Agent Registration Act for giving this interview with
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a local TV station. And what do you do? How do you respond? Well, I wanted to look at all the data
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points. You know, I'm not an impulsive person. I like to think, and I didn't have a lot of time. I mean,
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we're talking, I had to make this in a 48-hour window, right? And so this was a lot of pressure,
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but I did. I took the time. I talked to my daughter for hours. I talked to my lawyer. I
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got more data points of other people who had opinions that were educated. And then I talked
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to Matt Gaetz. And I am forever grateful that he took my call. And he was, you know, I want to give
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him some credit here. The congressman from Florida. Yeah, because I was supposed to go the first week
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of June and walk with him on the Senate floor to get my Senate thing opened. And I wanted to do that.
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And he advised me, he didn't advise me, I should raise that. He gave me information. He basically
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just said, you know, I'm worried about you. I'm worried about your personal safety. And you're good
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where you are, you know, that kind of thing. And he was, he just said he knew how those people
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operated. And so he was concerned about me. Those people being employees of the U.S. government.
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Right. And he sits on the Intelligence Committee. So when a U.S. congressman tells you something like
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that, it's remarkable. That's a remarkable data point, right? That's a remarkable data point. And I
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trusted him. He could, because he could have easily just said, oh, sure, it'll be fine. And I did ask
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him, I said, please, you know, congressman, can you help me? Can you get me off these charges? Can you? And he
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said, no, I can't. I'm sorry. I can't. My hands are tied. I don't even know what they are. And
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sometimes some of this intelligence isn't shared. But what I can tell you is just that I understand
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how these people operate. And yeah, I'm really worried about your personal safety. Because I had
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received death threats at that point. And you think about it, I'm not that well known. I would have been
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in the news maybe a day or two, maybe you or someone else might have talked about me for a couple of
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times, but it would be considered a conspiracy theory, like Adam Rich, right? And his death?
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So what I find so compelling and shocking about your story is that I still don't understand what
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In their eyes, they see me as somehow being a traitorous, is the words that they use. I think
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in the USA today, there was a former CIA agent who gave a quote saying that I, my thoughts about
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America made him viscerally angry. Because I was talking about inflation. I was talking about the
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fact that there's 600,000 homeless. I was talking about the fact, you know, I'm involved with
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geopolitics. I have a law degree. I'm interested in it.
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So, but you're an American. You spent your whole life in the United States. You worked for the sitting
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president. Yeah. Who you say sexually assaulted you. Yeah. You're upset about the state of our
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economy. Yeah. How does that make you a traitor? Apparently it does. And apparently my views about
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the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine. And in 2019, I had, I had said, and this is true,
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that if Joe Biden was elected, that he would go to war with Russia. You were right. Yeah.
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So just to bottom line, the path that you took for people who are hearing this for the first time,
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you decided you could not come home after that. I decided then, and then I had to figure out,
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well, what does one do? Because you can't just like decide to stay in a country without proper
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paperwork and a visa, right? You can't just like, oh, I'm just going to hang out here.
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That would make you a stateless person. Yes. Yes. So I reached out and I'm forever grateful to
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Maria Butina because Masha helped me. And she helped me with the process of how to, just the
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how to of applying for political asylum, which I did. And it took a few weeks. Only 10% of those
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cases get accepted, but they did their, they do their due diligence and they felt that there was
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enough of a problem where they had to give me asylum. This is after speaking to a U.S. congressman
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who sits on the House Intel Committee who told you he was worried about your safety. Correct.
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How hard a decision was that for you? That's a big decision.
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It was a big decision, but it wasn't just what he said. And I don't want to put this all on
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Matt Gaetz's shoulders. Yeah. It was, it was several people's and one, I can't really say who it was,
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but went to great risk to send me a message to say, if you get off that plane, they're going to
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take you into custody. For what? And violation of the FAR Act. Probably they were talking about
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violation of sanctions. There was talk that I had read notices, which are, you know,
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arrest warrants. Like I could have been picked up in Istanbul. And by whom and for what?
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By the U.S. proxy by, by, you know, that that's how they do it with Interpol. They arrest on behalf
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of the U.S. like in the UAE and Dubai. So I had a lawyer who actually specialized in people that have
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that happen to them. And she got the red notices pulled. And so now those are gone now that I'm under
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asylum, but they'll extradite you from every country. So the only two countries that will not
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extradite an American back to America is Iran and Russia. This is a really crazy story. Yeah.
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It sounds like you don't have any way to get your story to an American audience.
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No. No, it's very difficult. I mean, I have a large Twitter following. And I have a podcast that I do.
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But no one has called... What's so interesting to me is we have a supposedly free media in the
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United States as a backstop against a check against government overreach, too much power in the hands
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of too few. And so it's supposed to be a self-correcting system. If something truly crazy
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and totalitarian happens to an American citizen, our media is supposed to take an interest and alert
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the rest of the country so they know what's going on. So they can say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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whoa. I may not like Tara Reade and I don't agree with her or whatever, but you can't do that.
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You can't arrest someone for no crime or for complaining about the president. Like has anyone
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The Daily Beast to say, you know, tell us what's happened with you.
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Those, those, no, of course not. Those, they only do hit pieces. They only, and they're,
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they're working for the empire. There, there's no question. They're just working for the,
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you know, as proxies to the U.S. government. I mean, I think, you know, some of the reporting
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that Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger have been doing has been really valuable.
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Because they've been showing how there's think tanks, actual think tanks that basically
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put out articles to these, and then they reprint them. They don't even change them that much.
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So these are planted articles. Like there was all kinds of lies told about me that I lied about
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my education. Now I never lied about my education, that I defected to Russia. I didn't defect to
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Russia. I was threatened with my life and my family, and I didn't want my family harmed. I didn't want
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to be at risk of being put in a cage. And I can't tell you what that conversation was like with my
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I can't. I can't. Under political asylum, I can't leave the borders of Russia.
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Because, you know, I'm under the protection. And to be frank, I don't know when I can ever go back
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to the U.S. I don't know when there's a safe place.
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In their eyes, I've committed some sort of crime. And I haven't done anything. And that's the thing.
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I've never committed a crime. I'm not a traitor. I'm not a spy, not a spy for Russia. I don't have
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tons of resources. I don't have a PR team. I just told the truth about Joe Biden. I told the truth
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about what he did to me. And I told the truth about the corruption. And I wouldn't be quiet about it.
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And I was demanding to be heard. But let's say I'm not going to get $83 million like E. Jean Carroll
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or a perfume line like Stormy Daniels, right? Or treated like with dignity in the press like those
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women were because they accused a Republican. No. I was attacked.
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Not really. Rose McGowan. She really has. Megyn Kelly gave me a platform a couple of times. Of
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course, you have. Other than that, independent media, even the lefties, even though the Me Too
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reporters, silence. You don't see any Me Too reporters coming and telling my story, do you?
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Never once. They protect Biden. This is all about catch and kill. And if you recall, I went to Time's
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Up for help, right? Time's Up. Roberta Kaplan, who just represented E. Jean Carroll. Roberta Kaplan
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had to resign from Time's Up because she was smearing me and the Cuomo, you know, survivors,
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the people that talked about Cuomo. And because she did that, she had to resign. Time's Up was
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dismantled. And she went on to represent, you know, E. Jean Carroll. And E. Jean Carroll publicly
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said that she was going to now support Biden and give him money. Just, it's unbelievable.
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Where does it, I just can't get past this question, and I don't want to upset you, but of
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your daughter. I mean, you have a child in the United States.
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Yeah. That's been hard. You know, I missed her graduation. She got her master's. They went after
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her, actually, while I was here in Russia. The first month I was here, a bunch of Democratic troll
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farms or whatever doxed her photo, her work address, tried to get her fired. She was interning as a
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therapist. She's a therapist with children. She works with play therapy, with children who've
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been traumatized. And they tried to get her fired. And they were saying it out loud and calling the
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work. But luckily, you know, my daughter's work is, you know, not interested in those kinds of,
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you know, smears. So my daughter's fine. But like, you know, having her face plastered everywhere,
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because she's associated with me. My horse was almost kidnapped.
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They literally came and took him almost on a trailer. And luckily, the owners of the stable
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were there. So I'm getting this calls at three in the morning in Moscow, that my horse is being
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loaded on a trailer by someone I don't know, who's going to take him for Joe Biden. That was what they
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were saying. They were taking him for Joe, like some so luckily, he's safe. But I mean, it's been sort
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of relentless. It's been, you know, and I know public figures, you know, I don't consider myself
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a public figure, but other public figures do get harassed like that. But when you're a regular
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citizen like I am, it's really daunting, especially if we don't have the resources to protect yourself,
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Do you expect to be able to see your daughter anytime soon?
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I don't know. I don't feel comfortable putting her in, you know, the spotlight again. She's about
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And, you know, I'm upset. But, you know, and I don't want to be a victim here. I just,
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I'm angry. And I want Joe Biden to be held accountable. He's taken years of my life.
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He's destroyed it three times over. And I'm just, I'm going to continue to fight.
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