The Tucker Carlson Show - ‘The Ethical Hacker’ Exposes Satanic Child Predators Lurking Online & How He Hunts Them

00:00:00.000 okay i wanted to do this i wanted to meet you i heard about you from my friend sean ryan wonderful

00:00:09.580 man um i was going on about you and the work that you're doing on the darkest things happening on

00:00:15.780 the internet which we'll talk about in a minute but he said this is a guy who really understands

00:00:19.600 how to use the internet open just open source um and also non-open source since you're also

00:00:26.180 an expert on hacking. But, so let's just start there. What can you learn about someone you've

00:00:32.220 never met on the internet, open source? Basically everything. And what I did with you,

00:00:38.700 because, you know, I was told in advance that you're not really a computer guy.

00:00:42.360 I don't own a computer, actually.

00:00:43.500 You don't even own a computer.

00:00:44.380 I do not own a computer. I have an iPhone, which is, I don't know how different that is from a

00:00:48.340 computer. I haven't owned a computer since 2011, because I just disapprove, basically.

00:00:53.900 Well, hey, to each his own, right?

00:00:56.280 But that is a computer that you have right there.

00:00:58.140 You're totally right.

00:00:59.880 Back when I was a kid, that thing's like 10 times more powerful.

00:01:03.800 You're totally right.

00:01:04.400 And I always say, I don't have a TV, but I get X or whatever, YouTube on my phone.

00:01:09.680 So it's like a distinction without a difference.

00:01:11.300 It's an absurd pretense that I keep up.

00:01:13.860 Hey, well, when I was doing the research, I confirmed that running your phone number,

00:01:20.100 running your email, there's not many accounts connected to them.

00:01:23.380 No accounts.

00:01:24.260 Yeah.

00:01:24.520 I don't have email that I use.

00:01:26.780 I don't have email really.

00:01:28.080 And I've had the same phone number since 1995.

00:01:30.760 I mean, I found some old, like, and I'll show you in a second, but the, you know, old, you

00:01:35.320 know, news related emails, there was one with S. Carlson at, we know there's an old, I found

00:01:40.600 all your old emails, but it doesn't seem like anything is active.

00:01:44.240 So the 20 minute challenge was, you know, I think you might, you might be shocked.

00:01:48.860 So it's a 20 minute challenge, 20 minutes to find out what you can about somebody.

00:01:51.380 That's all.

00:01:52.100 We called it that in the office, you know,

00:01:53.800 just to see what we could find on you.

00:01:55.460 And let me pull out my laptop and show you.

00:01:58.680 So you do own a computer, is what you're saying?

00:02:00.940 I own a lot of computers.

00:02:04.140 I am a nerd.

00:02:06.500 Yeah, there's something about, I don't know.

00:02:09.600 I just, we're not in charge of the growth of technology

00:02:15.300 and its increasing power over our lives.

00:02:17.500 I'm certainly not in charge.

00:02:18.760 And yes, I did put in Starlink in my hunting camp, which is a huge mixed blessing.

00:02:24.300 But I just want to say out loud that I disapprove.

00:02:28.040 Disapprove a piece.

00:02:29.100 I do.

00:02:29.800 I just do.

00:02:30.600 No, I don't disapprove of computers.

00:02:32.180 We can smash this thing right here on camera.

00:02:33.840 No, no, I'm not that unreasonable.

00:02:35.900 I just, I don't, I feel like human autonomy and human consciousness, like our ability

00:02:42.800 to think for ourselves is threatened by technology and I'm upset by it.

00:02:47.500 I agree with that. And this might make you even more angry. So, um, is this your social security

00:02:53.320 number? Let me get my glasses. It certainly is. How do you have my social security number?

00:03:04.260 Well, so I have your social security number. Um, I have your full name, obviously. I don't

00:03:08.320 think that's a secret. I see all your fishing licenses and, and, you know, hunting licenses

00:03:13.520 from Alaska, Oregon, Virginia.

00:03:15.600 I mean, I found all the places that you do your thing.

00:03:18.920 Alaska, Oregon, Virginia.

00:03:20.940 Yep, I even have your driver's license number in Florida.

00:03:23.700 Oh, that's...

00:03:24.360 Looks like you haven't changed your phone number

00:03:25.900 in a long time.

00:03:26.680 1995.

00:03:27.540 Okay, so that phone...

00:03:28.500 Every mental patient in America has my phone number.

00:03:31.220 Everybody is.

00:03:32.020 I'm not afraid of people.

00:03:33.020 I'm never going to be afraid of people, so...

00:03:34.900 One thing I want to tell you about

00:03:36.300 how I have your social security number 0.72

00:03:38.320 and why is kind of ridiculous, to be honest with you.

00:03:41.200 Have you heard of the national public data breach?

00:03:43.420 No.

00:03:44.040 Okay, so...

00:03:45.100 Can I just say that I keep my assets and gold coins buried in a place that, you know, only my children can identify, so...

00:03:50.660 Well, you know what?

00:03:51.220 I'm totally safe. You can't drain my bank account.

00:03:53.620 Well, let me show you something.

00:03:55.900 You might not be able to drain your bank account, but here is your signature from your warranty deed.

00:04:05.020 So having your...

00:04:06.220 How do you have that? That is my actual signature.

00:04:08.540 Yeah, yeah, I'm aware.

00:04:09.680 Which is not my name, so I don't know how you would have that.

00:04:13.040 Oh, I pulled it from public record.

00:04:14.740 That is crazy.

00:04:17.120 Yep.

00:04:17.360 So if I use your social, I have your general location.

00:04:20.900 I know you use a P.O. box to buy everything.

00:04:24.260 I found behind the P.O. box.

00:04:27.140 I saw your motorcycle transaction that you made.

00:04:30.220 I have the old plate and the new plate with the Harley.

00:04:33.720 I found as much as I could in the 20 minutes.

00:04:36.880 You found my Harley.

00:04:38.140 Yeah.

00:04:39.740 Not something I talk about.

00:04:41.220 That's so funny.

00:04:42.020 Wow.

00:04:42.420 Okay.

00:04:42.660 But my point here is-

00:04:44.600 The new six speeds are amazing.

00:04:46.200 Can I just say that?

00:04:47.000 I can imagine.

00:04:47.540 My old car had four speeds.

00:04:48.560 I love motorcycles.

00:04:49.600 I do too.

00:04:50.320 Yeah, I secretly do.

00:04:51.380 Very secretly.

00:04:52.500 So the national public data breach was ridiculous, to be honest with you.

00:04:58.580 It was 2.8 billion records about a year and a half ago, roughly.

00:05:03.320 And a Florida sheriff ran a data broker website, which had, you know, just you could look up somebody's name, similar to White Pages.

00:05:10.280 But for whatever reason, this Florida sheriff got access to all of this data and was using it to, you know, I'm assuming sell data, make money on it.

00:05:18.100 Well, he decided to reuse credentials for a demo project or old project on his main production system, which allowed 2.8 billion records to be exposed with, you know, we know there's about 300 million Americans.

00:05:32.620 So if there's 2.8 billion records in this database, there's a good chance that you're in it with your social security number.

00:05:39.460 And you're in there about, I think, 15 times if you look at that document with everywhere you've ever lived, including anyone associated, et cetera.

00:05:49.700 And this is all publicly available now?

00:05:51.320 It's publicly available.

00:05:52.660 And what we did was because since, like I said, I could, maybe you have all your assets in gold, let's say.

00:05:58.200 I have the ability to call your electric company and pretend that I'm you.

00:06:02.220 And what do I not have about you to confirm that I'm you?

00:06:06.100 Or if I want to open up a credit card or if I want to buy a Harley, there's not much that's stopping me.

00:06:13.080 So we decided, and I'll get into some of this in a little bit,

00:06:18.020 but we started a cybersecurity company using the methodologies that I use to locate these predators and traffickers.

00:06:24.300 and instead of doing something like targeting bad people,

00:06:28.400 you can sign up for it

00:06:29.860 and protect your digital footprint.

00:06:32.800 So we were sitting in a hotel room,

00:06:36.380 this data breach came out

00:06:37.620 and we're like, we want people to know

00:06:39.240 if they're in this like immediately

00:06:40.360 because if your social's exposed,

00:06:42.420 you should be freezing your credit like right now.

00:06:45.120 And we noticed nobody else

00:06:46.460 was allowing anyone to search for this.

00:06:49.040 So we threw it together as fast as we possibly could

00:06:51.520 and it was all over the place.

00:06:53.640 Tucker. We didn't realize that the news was going to pick up on it the way that it did.

00:06:58.320 There were Congress people in New York even demonstrating how to use our search on our

00:07:05.000 website. I believe it was Richie Torres in New York. And there was a bunch of them. That's just

00:07:10.200 the one that's coming to mind. And this is not me trying to advertise. It's just relevant to the

00:07:16.000 story. But people would go to NPD, like nationalpublicdata.pentester.com, and you can run

00:07:22.780 your name. You'll see if you're in this breach. If you are, it doesn't cost you any money whatsoever

00:07:27.440 to freeze your credit. And we give you the instruction on how to go to TransUnion, Equifax,

00:07:33.160 Experian, and freeze it. And people think, well, if I freeze my credit, it's going to affect my

00:07:38.560 score or whatever. It doesn't hurt your score to freeze it. It just stops people from being able

00:07:42.780 to run a soft or hard query against it. And when you're ready to go do something that requires your

00:07:48.920 credit, you just click the unfreeze button, which takes 10 seconds. Uh, they run your credit and

00:07:54.760 then you freeze it again. And this will alleviate a ton, a ton of issues. I mean, I don't know if

00:07:58.760 your credit's frozen. I'm hoping by the time that this episode's out, it is because I don't have

00:08:03.280 any credit. I don't take any loans. Okay. Well, if you're not worried, you're not worried.

00:08:07.640 I don't want credit. I don't like money lending, period. Understood. Understood. But most people

00:08:12.560 would be worried, but there's a good chance there's like, this is not me fear mongering.

00:08:15.920 Your social is most likely in this database if you're watching this episode, you know?

00:08:20.040 So it's the way that you didn't know about it, even though it was all over the news,

00:08:24.700 almost everyone I meet face-to-face is not aware that they're in this data breach.

00:08:28.720 And we're doing a good job at exposing that it exists.

00:08:32.620 I cannot take this data breach off of some hacker's computer in Russia,

00:08:37.600 like, or, you know, whoever downloaded it.

00:08:39.480 I can, I don't know how familiar you are with how these data breaches work,

00:08:43.320 But like, I can't remove your data from a data breach.

00:08:46.200 It's just a file that gets shared amongst many people.

00:08:48.980 It's out there, yeah.

00:08:49.480 It's out there.

00:08:50.120 So your social is on as many people's computers

00:08:52.520 as that downloaded that data breach.

00:08:56.080 So we're doing the same thing,

00:08:57.940 but showing you, you know,

00:08:59.380 we're allowing you to search through that file.

00:09:01.920 And then we give you the options to freeze your credit.

00:09:04.800 We're going to need biometrics really soon.

00:09:06.880 I mean, that's probably the point of this, right?

00:09:08.260 To get us to biometrics, because...

00:09:10.100 Yeah, well, I mean, I just don't understand

00:09:11.540 how the sheriff in the first place got access to every single American's personal information,

00:09:17.220 including their socials. But from there, we thought, okay, how can you clean up your digital

00:09:22.480 footprint? Which I'm going to show you something that I think, I don't know what your thoughts on

00:09:25.800 facial recognition are and all of that, but I want to show you some cool stuff that people are

00:09:30.180 scared of, but they should also look at as, you know, you have a digital footprint, even though

00:09:34.800 you don't use a computer. Like people need to realize that they have to understand. How long

00:09:38.340 until people's porn records get leaked. Immediately. I can show you an example of it

00:09:43.000 right now. The way that we built this platform was, like I said, how we identified predators

00:09:50.140 and traffickers, but now any consumer can sign up for it, see what's out there on them, see what

00:09:55.840 accounts are connected to them, their kids, if their kids have some secret accounts or anything

00:10:00.200 like that. Let's say they were in a wedding photo four years ago and they were in the back corner

00:10:05.980 and half their face is showing,

00:10:07.540 that might be enough identifiable information

00:10:09.700 to identify what their name is or who they are

00:10:14.200 just by them walking down the street

00:10:15.540 and being in a photo,

00:10:17.100 which I'll demonstrate so that makes more sense.

00:10:20.080 We could use somebody here

00:10:21.300 that doesn't have as much of a public image

00:10:23.420 because you and I, we can take a picture

00:10:24.980 and you're going to see a ton of results.

00:10:26.760 But somebody, if they're willing,

00:10:27.940 if not, I'll show you my own face or yours

00:10:29.640 or whatever you'd like.

00:10:31.320 We built that because, you know,

00:10:33.520 I'll give you a good example.

00:10:34.860 this happened recently so we hired are you familiar with winwood in miami no okay so it's

00:10:40.980 an art district in miami and there's awesome graffiti artists down there and we decided to

00:10:47.360 hire a graffiti artist that you know is most likely committing crimes when he's not being

00:10:52.120 paid legitimately to to paint our office and um the guy was a super nice guy but he went by an

00:10:57.740 alias and he was going to be in our office for six to eight days that's what he said to us

00:11:02.080 And so we said to the guy, you know, we asked him what his name was.

00:11:06.620 He was a little bit hesitant to tell us.

00:11:08.760 He, you know, he honestly didn't.

00:11:10.220 He just told us his alias, which was a three-letter word.

00:11:13.180 And I took a picture of his face and I ran it through our system.

00:11:17.640 I found a picture of him with his grandparents that had their full names in it.

00:11:21.580 And I said, look, man, this is how easy, you know, a surveillance camera or anybody taking

00:11:26.320 a photo of you can identify you in 2026.

00:11:28.920 You know, we could get into the whole Europe privacy laws with facial recognition in China.

00:11:33.380 But like in the United States with this technology, instead of using it for good, in our case, where we're showing you what's out there about yourself, people can use this for bad to identify you or your kids or, you know, your family.

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00:14:29.180 amazing and then there's all of the addresses that came from the data breach

00:14:41.060 Hold on.

00:14:42.680 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:45.620 Probably going back a long time.

00:14:47.620 There's my childhood home.

00:14:51.060 Yeah, I mean, these are places I haven't lived in 40 years.

00:14:54.480 Wow.

00:14:56.540 Wow, that is crazy.

00:14:58.300 It's it.

00:14:58.900 Okay.

00:15:01.580 So you've just taken a picture of my face and you're feeding my face into the database.

00:15:06.740 face i'm not going to feed it into the into the database like this is not going to be stored or

00:15:12.080 anything like that we we're only doing it just to show an example of it's it's taking 120

00:15:17.560 measurements of your face uh so like for example let's say you're wearing uh makeup or something

00:15:23.360 or you have purple hair it doesn't make a difference because there's other measurements

00:15:27.220 that will you know like i said there could be it could be half of your face or a quarter of your

00:15:30.520 face it's just going to try to use those measurements to identify you not the actual

00:15:35.900 image itself. There's a difference between reverse image searching, like looking for an identical

00:15:40.220 image and reverse facial recognition where it's trying to measure like this nostril is this many

00:15:46.000 centimeters from the lower earlobe, you know, in a lot of different measurements. Let's just say

00:15:51.960 you're not a criminal. You have no interest in breaking the law here in the United States,

00:15:56.020 but you don't want to be identified on the basis of your face. Is there anything you can do

00:16:02.880 to disguise your identity and foil facial recognition?

00:16:07.880 Unfortunately, wearing a mask,

00:16:10.180 I mean, you could still be identified

00:16:12.420 by the top half of your face.

00:16:14.160 I mean, you could wear like a COVID mask or something

00:16:17.260 if you're one of those guys,

00:16:18.420 but you could do that.

00:16:20.080 You could wear, I mean, it's extreme though,

00:16:23.400 you know, like wearing a full face mask to cover,

00:16:27.540 put a hood up and walk past cameras with your head down.

00:16:30.760 I mean, you can't really get around this technology.

00:16:32.880 You can't, so sunglasses don't do it.

00:16:35.880 No, no, no, we could try to mess with you in any way,

00:16:38.920 and I guarantee you, I mean, yeah,

00:16:40.880 here you are all over the place here.

00:16:46.400 I'll speak loud, but you see these URLs underneath of them?

00:16:51.440 Yeah.

00:16:52.200 So in each one of these, and there's going to be,

00:16:54.860 and there's an endless supply of photos of you on the internet, Tucker,

00:16:57.680 so it'd be kind of pointless to go through these for you.

00:17:00.680 But let's say you're an average person.

00:17:02.360 Let's say you're in your 40s, 50s, 60s, and you don't know what's out there on yourself

00:17:07.060 because it's not possible to search by your face unless you have a specialized tool to

00:17:11.080 do it.

00:17:11.860 Law enforcement usually has this ability, but consumers don't.

00:17:16.760 And what we did is we allow you to search and we show you where that image is at.

00:17:23.060 So then you can either reach out to us or if you can take it upon yourself to contact

00:17:27.180 that website, whether it be, let's say, as I used a wedding photographer, reach out to

00:17:31.820 that wedding photographer and say, hey, I would like my photo taken down off of your website.

00:17:35.800 Or if it's, you know, maybe you're at a kid's sports game and it's showing pictures of your

00:17:40.560 children, like, you know, you want to know that that stuff is out there because somebody else

00:17:45.120 could be searching you. It's, you know, it's not about, everybody's like, it's not going to happen

00:17:48.300 to me. It's not going to happen to me. But then sometimes it happens to you. And that's why we

00:17:53.360 built what we built. And we're trying to hit every angle. We're trying to hit your, you know,

00:17:57.320 your digital footprint as a whole.

00:17:59.960 And then we're automating as many removals

00:18:01.920 as possible for you.

00:18:03.880 So you could just, you know,

00:18:05.300 essentially put in your email,

00:18:07.100 put in your name to Pentester,

00:18:08.900 as much information as you're willing to give us.

00:18:11.060 And then over time,

00:18:11.780 it'll start to build out a profile on you.

00:18:14.060 The same way that I did in that little challenge,

00:18:16.540 but automatically.

00:18:17.640 And then you'll start to see removals happening over time.

00:18:21.120 And you'll see where it got removed from,

00:18:23.300 where, you know, how many are pending,

00:18:25.720 how many are left.

00:18:26.240 it's a super cool, easy process. And I'm going to sound like a car salesman, but it's less than

00:18:32.340 20 bucks. And I don't know why. I think everybody should be doing it. There's just nobody out there

00:18:38.260 doing this. And you get all of this for $20. It doesn't seem like there's any privacy possible

00:18:45.740 in the United States. Absolutely not. No. And when it comes to technology, you are fully exposed.

00:18:51.120 It's like you're naked, you know?

00:18:52.600 I mean, I came in here, you know, we met one time before in person and, you know, it's

00:18:57.880 not like I snuck your social out of your wallet that day.

00:19:00.860 Like I came in here saying, hey, Tucker, I have your social security number, your warranty

00:19:05.100 deed and your signature.

00:19:07.820 Yeah, maybe you don't have credit, but most people, most people in the United States do

00:19:11.180 and it's a big deal to them, you know?

00:19:13.440 So I-

00:19:13.720 Of course.

00:19:13.960 And I didn't mean, I understand that and I, the system is set up against people, which

00:19:18.720 is my main problem with the system.

00:19:19.960 you shouldn't have to be heavily in debt

00:19:22.060 in order to live here.

00:19:23.240 Agreed.

00:19:23.680 If you've got a job

00:19:24.600 and you're like a responsible person

00:19:26.100 who works eight hours a day,

00:19:27.440 but you have to have debt.

00:19:29.780 No, you shouldn't have to have debt.

00:19:30.780 Then the system is designed to enslave you,

00:19:33.320 which ours is.

00:19:34.700 So, and I'm just opposed to it.

00:19:36.420 So, but I didn't mean to be like,

00:19:37.640 oh, I don't have any debt.

00:19:39.340 No, I know I'm very privileged not to have debt.

00:19:41.400 And by the way,

00:19:42.120 it's the very first thing I did when I made some dough.

00:19:43.980 I didn't buy anything.

00:19:44.820 I paid off all my loans

00:19:46.040 because I despise being indebted to anybody

00:19:50.220 and I despise the people who put you in debt.

00:19:53.080 I do, I mean it.

00:19:53.900 Understood.

00:19:54.800 From the bottom of my heart.

00:19:56.140 Yeah.

00:19:56.640 Because I would despise a slave master

00:19:58.100 and they run around like,

00:19:59.440 whoa, we're making the American dream possible.

00:20:01.240 No, you're stealing it actually from people

00:20:03.360 and you should be ashamed.

00:20:05.860 Totally agree with you there.

00:20:08.600 Sorry.

00:20:10.460 No, you're good.

00:20:11.340 You can see I'm filled with eccentric resentments,

00:20:13.380 but I think in a normal society,

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00:22:32.840 Yeah.

00:22:33.860 So anyway, so anyway, but I'm sorry.

00:22:35.800 I didn't mean to be like, I can't believe people have to have jobs.

00:22:38.620 I get it.

00:22:39.600 Everyone is in debt.

00:22:40.580 Everyone has to be.

00:22:41.500 You know, I totally understand that.

00:22:43.040 And the way I look at it and my personal belief is, you know, there's good debt and bad debt

00:22:47.420 because you can, in my life, I own software companies and real estate and, you know,

00:22:52.960 taking an equity line out to buy another property.

00:22:54.960 Well, you're playing at a different level.

00:22:55.880 I've never been in business.

00:22:56.860 I'm just like some employee who talks for a living.

00:22:58.980 So like I have a very simple financial picture of my life.

00:23:01.740 don't have that much money, but I don't have any debt. And I think in my business where you

00:23:06.320 like make people mad, if you have debt, boy, you know. They go after it. Yeah, because judgments

00:23:12.120 are public as well. So you don't have any obviously, but it's usually that, you know,

00:23:17.860 people could find them. Well, you wonder why all these members of Congress and the hair hats on

00:23:22.360 television are all saying exactly the same thing because they're exposed and everyone thinks it's

00:23:25.900 exposed sexually and a huge number of them are creepy sexually, but it's not just that, it's the

00:23:31.200 money it's the debt is the leash that keeps them in line that's wild i think yeah yeah you might be

00:23:37.000 right you might be right it sounds like it it's uh i uh i've never had this conversation before

00:23:42.800 yeah normally it's you know for me it's like no you're fine you're fine it's a it's well if you're

00:23:48.600 if you're if you know if you're in debt to anybody you're literally in debt to them you owe them

00:23:55.660 something you haven't yet paid. So that is, by definition, their control over you, right?

00:24:03.360 Yeah, they have control over you and they can take your assets if you don't pay them.

00:24:07.440 So yeah, they totally understand it. And it's a risky, depending on the type of person,

00:24:14.760 some people are more risk-taking when they don't have the funds. I don't believe you should be

00:24:19.880 taking out loans that you can't afford. It's people saying, don't spend money you don't have.

00:24:25.440 It's something most people are aware of, but some people don't practice that.

00:24:29.860 Yeah, I used to feel that way.

00:24:31.480 Now I'm kind of like, I don't know.

00:24:34.120 I think people should stop paying their credit cards.

00:24:36.100 I know no one else agrees with me.

00:24:37.540 And, oh, you have a moral obligation.

00:24:38.960 Really?

00:24:39.220 Well, you have a moral obligation not to send credit card applications to kids in college.

00:24:42.880 So this goes both ways.

00:24:44.140 It's like just blaming the drug addict and never mentioning the dealer.

00:24:47.120 Someone's selling the fentanyl.

00:24:48.760 And that person is on the hook too.

00:24:50.380 So that's how I feel.

00:24:51.460 So like, is it a sin to rip off your drug dealer?

00:24:54.060 I guess.

00:24:54.820 it's not one I'm going to judge you for.

00:24:56.960 Yeah, I think it's 100% agree with you there.

00:25:00.400 I can't argue that.

00:25:03.360 Yeah.

00:25:03.600 So anyway, wow.

00:25:05.520 Well, that's all very shocking. 0.99

00:25:06.840 Let me ask you a super dumb question 0.98

00:25:08.440 because that's the only kind I have, 0.95

00:25:09.580 which is when someone has your social security number,

00:25:12.060 like how threatening is that?

00:25:13.920 So when someone has your social,

00:25:15.600 it just gives them the ability to pretend to be you.

00:25:19.700 So whether it be,

00:25:21.540 we talked about loans and credit and all that stuff.

00:25:23.760 Take that out of the picture.

00:25:25.720 Imagine if, you know, I think you've experienced this based on just a rumor.

00:25:30.020 You've been SIM swapped before.

00:25:31.860 Like somebody's stolen your phone number and tried to.

00:25:33.820 Oh, yeah, multiple times.

00:25:34.880 So, you know, I'm assuming your carrier now is a lot more strict with your phone number.

00:25:40.820 You've locked it down, yeah.

00:25:41.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:42.380 But for your average person, if I call in and I say, hey, I'm Jane Doe.

00:25:47.360 I have her social security number.

00:25:50.360 I can sound like a man.

00:25:51.420 They can't judge me in 2026.

00:25:53.300 So I'm Jane Doe with a man's voice, with a social.

00:25:56.420 They're going to let me do practically anything I want to the account.

00:25:59.640 That doesn't mean essentially every time it's going to be a SIM swap,

00:26:02.360 but I can authenticate to pretty much anything as you.

00:26:05.360 You're electric in your house.

00:26:06.500 Let's say I report a problem with the electric

00:26:09.680 and they turn the power off on a Friday night

00:26:13.000 and you don't get your power back till Monday.

00:26:15.160 That could be a problem in some cold areas or some hot areas.

00:26:17.780 Yeah, for sure.

00:26:18.340 I mean, there's real life consequences to a social security number,

00:26:22.040 which is such a ridiculous way to identify somebody

00:26:25.000 because they're incremental.

00:26:26.960 And I think it was 2011 is when the prefix of them,

00:26:30.000 like the first three digits started becoming randomized.

00:26:32.980 Like the first, I think it was the three digits

00:26:34.920 meant like the hospital and the next two

00:26:36.580 was the timeframe, something like that.

00:26:39.140 After 2011, it was changed to completely random.

00:26:41.920 But social security numbers are not, in my opinion,

00:26:45.600 a good way to keep yourself private.

00:26:48.500 Well, because they are not,

00:26:49.700 and this is what I sort of half-assed you a minute ago,

00:26:52.700 because the system is so obviously flawed

00:26:55.120 and the internet itself is not secure

00:26:56.820 because it was designed to be open,

00:26:58.040 it'll never be secure.

00:26:59.820 There will always be data breaches, always.

00:27:03.600 And because everything takes place on the internet,

00:27:06.240 specifically financial transactions,

00:27:08.140 don't we have to go to biometrics?

00:27:11.040 I think we need to, yeah.

00:27:12.460 And it is absolutely a possibility now.

00:27:16.200 Fingerprints have been around for a long time

00:27:17.700 for fingerprint locks.

00:27:18.620 And now that consumer, you can go to Home Depot and buy a fingerprint lock for your home.

00:27:23.040 But we have biometrics for retina scanning.

00:27:26.840 I've seen it at the airport before with Clear.

00:27:29.020 I think Clear might have changed from retina scanning to just facial recognition.

00:27:32.780 But we have the ability to do all of these different biometrics that are pretty solid ways to authenticate yourself.

00:27:39.140 um the the issue which we could get more into this later but there there's platforms out there

00:27:44.520 that are trying to use biometrics like facial scanning to determine age to allow someone on

00:27:50.240 a platform um it's failing miserably uh and why because it's just the technology is doing a bad

00:27:57.720 job at identifying the person's age uh like like for example if i scan my face it might say you

00:28:03.540 know i'm i'm 32 years old but it could tell me that i'm 50 it could tell me that i'm 18 it could

00:28:09.000 tell me that i'm 16 it just depends on whatever that platform decides yeah and in my experience

00:28:14.260 the kind of life you've lived honestly that's exactly honestly right yeah and and i have lived

00:28:19.840 a crazy life so who knows what i don't know this is in in particular with the last couple weeks

00:28:25.220 with roblox um so roblox implemented this as a safety measure after a guy named schlep his name

00:28:30.560 he goes by uh and and myself went on some podcasts talked about the dangers of that platform and

00:28:36.040 showed some real examples, which, you know, I'll show you some stuff in a little bit.

00:28:40.620 But their way to combat this issue was, you know, at least what it seems, is using kids,

00:28:48.520 they have to scan their face, and then they get grouped into, you know, other, grouped into

00:28:53.720 lobbies with other kids their age that they determine from a third-party company that we

00:28:58.060 don't know what they're doing with the biometric data of the children's faces. And a lot of the

00:29:04.360 time they're getting it wrong. And to make matters worse, you can go on eBay and buy accounts for

00:29:09.140 certain age ranges. So what do you think a predator is going to do with, let's say you get

00:29:13.440 a 13-year-old account already verified Roblox for $15 on eBay. Now the guy can go target 13-year-olds

00:29:23.200 because he just spent 15 bucks. But the moral of that is Roblox has a huge responsibility.

00:29:31.020 They're a big platform. They're the largest platform for children in the world.

00:29:35.820 They're a multi-billion dollar corporation, and I can't fully blame them. I don't think

00:29:43.400 they've made good decisions. I don't know if you know that they've banned vigilantes from

00:29:47.240 their platform. They don't let law enforcement on there.

00:29:49.480 Okay, so can you describe for people who don't have kids at home what Roblox is?

00:29:54.340 Okay, so Roblox is, imagine Legos. I'm sure most people know what Legos are. Digital Legos,

00:30:00.900 where they're walking around the screen,

00:30:02.500 they're chatting with each other

00:30:03.540 and they're playing games with each other.

00:30:05.360 Like just to keep things simple,

00:30:08.120 tic-tac-toe virtually.

00:30:10.280 And they look like little Lego characters.

00:30:12.320 And the children are able to type to each other

00:30:14.880 and talk inside of these Roblox games.

00:30:17.480 And there's four, five, six, seven,

00:30:19.500 eight-year-old children playing this game.

00:30:21.000 It's very popular amongst them. 0.98

00:30:24.220 And with this age verification situation

00:30:28.940 that they just added, 0.71

00:30:30.720 It makes it more dangerous, in my opinion, and I have solutions on what they could do.

00:30:35.940 I have a friend that I can't name, but they're federal law enforcement.

00:30:39.180 They have been in child crimes for longer than I've been alive, and they didn't even

00:30:44.620 get them to the second interview stage.

00:30:46.960 I found out that they don't have anyone, this is just me being told something, but I found

00:30:53.900 out they had no one that's ever worked child crimes for our government or legal state working

00:31:00.520 on their team to help with these issues. And as the largest game in the world for children,

00:31:06.280 you would think that they would do everything in their power to keep predators off of that

00:31:09.280 platform. And oh, and the point that I was trying to get at was that if you have a platform that's

00:31:14.080 full of kids, it's going to attract a child. I'm sorry. If you have a platform that is full of

00:31:20.960 children, it's going to attract a predator because that's what predators do. They put themselves in

00:31:24.900 positions like becoming teachers or becoming police officers or camp counselors or whatever

00:31:30.440 gives them access to children. So yes, Roblox is, for me to say, is Roblox intentionally trying to

00:31:37.560 make a platform for predators to groom children? I don't think that's their goal, but I think

00:31:42.640 they're doing a horrible job at trying to combat it. And there's easy ways for them to make this

00:31:48.040 problem a lot better. And what I want to do as an individual is educate as many parents out there

00:31:54.280 that, you know, because a lot of them, their kids are playing this game, you know, 150 million

00:31:59.300 daily active users or something like that. Some crazy high number of kids around the world are

00:32:04.720 playing this game. And, you know, it saddens me that parents have no idea. They just hand them

00:32:11.280 an iPad, they hand them a computer, and they just sit in a corner and play this game where

00:32:15.900 strangers are getting access to them and asking them for some of the most horrific things that

00:32:20.640 I've ever seen in almost eight years of child crimes and trafficking, which it's a lot easier

00:32:28.480 to show you what I mean by that than tell you that. Because parents can hear, internet has

00:32:35.800 predators. The park, there might be a sex offender at the park that's staring at a kid. But until

00:32:40.840 they see it or it's happened to them, it's usually not real. And of course, it's easy to say somebody

00:32:46.360 like myself who works in this space is going to be an extremist or somebody that's going to

00:32:51.020 immediately assume everybody is bad because I deal with this every day. I have no evidence to believe

00:32:57.260 that it isn't a significant problem because I'm finding in almost eight years that there's more

00:33:04.580 people that are willing to meet or talk with a child inappropriately than not on not just Roblox,

00:33:10.960 but any social media platform, chat app. And I've demonstrated this live on many podcasts,

00:33:16.040 and it's never failed, unfortunately. I wish that I could fail. I wish I could pull my laptop out,

00:33:20.620 go to a chat site, pretend to be a child, and not have a grown man asking me to do something

00:33:25.200 inappropriate. But I have never failed, unfortunately. It's a pretty overwhelming

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00:34:36.140 it's too upsetting and i think we're talking this off camera i think it's you know they're

00:34:40.780 the most upsetting things children being hurt being at the very top of it are people can't

00:34:47.740 even face it they don't want to think about it they just compartmentalize it and move on because

00:34:52.260 not because they support it, but precisely because of how violently they are opposed to it.

00:34:56.700 But it's just really upsetting.

00:34:58.560 I understand that.

00:34:59.280 But to give you just a counter to that, I mean, right after my interview with Sean Ryan,

00:35:03.900 a 13-year-old girl from the same exact group I was just talking about

00:35:07.960 was hanging by an extension cord in a parking lot.

00:35:11.320 And in the chat room while she did this live, 0.75

00:35:14.000 we're saying that she took her clothes off, it'd be hot or she died.

00:35:17.620 In the parking lot, this happened right after.

00:35:19.560 Actually?

00:35:19.740 Yeah, yeah. There's been a ton of suicides. This is a significant issue, and that's why I wanted to talk about it.

00:35:26.340 And what platform was this?

00:35:29.360 They're luring through mental health support groups. They're looking for vulnerable kids, and then they befriend them.

00:35:35.400 And then after they befriend them and they pretend they're a boyfriend or girlfriend, they exchange nude photos. 0.83

00:35:42.180 And then after the nude photos are exchanged, instead of sex-thwarting them like a Nigerian scammer might for money, they try to get them to harm themselves in exchange for not having their photos exposed to, you know, their friends, family, school. 0.88

00:35:57.300 They're sex-thwarting them, but they're using, instead of money, they want them to carve group names and usernames into their chests, into their wrists, into their bodies. 0.83

00:36:06.840 And then, you know, sometimes it escalates to harming animals, their pets in their houses, or hurting strangers.

00:36:14.260 Literally, there's been murders of strangers lighting homeless people on fire.

00:36:17.580 A guy torched himself in a hotel room just to prove that he was worthy of being part of one of these groups.

00:36:23.140 I mean, this is not just happening in like a little part of the country somewhere, you know, randomly.

00:36:29.260 This is on a mass scale.

00:36:31.340 And, you know, there's some people that are saying

00:36:34.240 that one of the biggest dangers for children at the moment

00:36:37.240 is these groups, which I know it's sad.

00:36:40.600 I know people don't want to hear this stuff.

00:36:42.300 Well, it's overwhelming because there's no motive.

00:36:46.140 They don't have a motive.

00:36:47.400 Right.

00:36:47.660 They're a nihilist extremist group.

00:36:50.000 So that, I mean, I think is the definition of evil.

00:36:52.520 The whole point of it is the suffering.

00:36:54.600 There's no, it's not like you, you know,

00:36:56.740 robbed a liquor store and shot the clerk

00:36:58.580 in order to get his money,

00:36:59.600 which is obviously evil, but at least it's explicable in human terms.

00:37:03.880 This is just spiritual evil.

00:37:05.600 It's spiritually evil, and their logo is a pentagram.

00:37:10.000 They identify as a satanic cult.

00:37:13.140 And the original group was called 764 Group.

00:37:16.880 It was the original, the first one that ever came out

00:37:19.820 that had this ideology or methodology that they use.

00:37:23.500 And they have like guides, literal guides that teach you 0.71

00:37:26.060 how to groom and extort these children,

00:37:27.640 and they spread them amongst each other.

00:37:29.600 Well, now there's hundreds, if not thousands, of these offshoots that do exactly the same thing using different names.

00:37:35.840 And, you know, has there been any effort to arrest these groups?

00:37:41.560 Yeah.

00:37:41.860 So this is what makes it a little bit difficult.

00:37:43.620 So there's 450 active investigations right now with the FBI.

00:37:48.120 Not nearly enough.

00:37:49.880 I mean, I could show you one group that Sentinel Foundation and I, which I'll explain how I even got involved in Sentinel Foundation in a minute.

00:37:57.560 I can go in one of those groups and there's more than 450 targets in that group alone.

00:38:02.440 I mean, more needs to be done from law enforcement.

00:38:06.020 But I understand that there's difficulty because it's not like we're going after the cartel

00:38:10.400 where there's a ringleader and then you can arrest all the guys underneath them.

00:38:14.240 They're all in the same town or they might get caught together.

00:38:17.000 These guys are from all over the country, some of them international,

00:38:20.860 and it's going to be one at a time, you know, and they don't use their real names.

00:38:24.100 They don't use real photos of themselves.

00:38:26.140 they go by aliases. And, you know, it's really, it's very sad. But the way to tackle this issue

00:38:34.760 is not by arresting one guy at a time, because these groups are just massively getting larger

00:38:40.900 and larger and larger, and a new offshoot comes out, the second one disappears. What happens is,

00:38:47.820 you know, in my experience, parents being aware of the issue, knowing what it is,

00:38:53.120 knowing what to look for on their children's devices,

00:38:56.140 that's going to cause a lot more impact

00:38:58.060 and fix this problem

00:38:59.800 or at least make a huge dent in this problem

00:39:01.940 rather than making the total of 30 arrests

00:39:04.600 that have happened and the five on day,

00:39:06.120 maybe it's a total of 35 arrests

00:39:07.740 since the inception a couple of years ago.

00:39:10.840 You know, I think alerting parents

00:39:12.520 is going to do a way bigger.

00:39:14.420 35 people total have been arrested in five years?

00:39:17.320 Yeah, well, I think it's like three or four years.

00:39:20.040 Don't quote me on that,

00:39:21.160 but it's not a lot.

00:39:22.400 Yeah, it should be way more than that.

00:39:25.400 It should be way more than that, but it's not.

00:39:27.120 And these guys aren't some crazy hackers.

00:39:29.960 They're connected to hacking groups called The Calm.

00:39:32.340 It's very deep.

00:39:33.300 It's a long story.

00:39:34.780 But they're not like these elite hackers that are impossible to find.

00:39:38.800 A lot of them are 16, 20-somethings.

00:39:43.180 They'll feel comfortable with somebody.

00:39:45.340 I'm sorry.

00:39:46.160 They'll feel like they're actually their friend and disclose their real name or phone number

00:39:50.200 or general idea where they live.

00:39:52.400 And if that person gets arrested, you know, they're snitching, you know, they're looking

00:39:55.940 at 30 years to life or something.

00:39:57.380 They're telling on everyone they can.

00:39:59.300 So, but it's not, as I said, like, yeah, we can make as many arrests as possible and I'm

00:40:04.300 all for it.

00:40:05.280 But when it comes down to, you know, the scale of this issue, 35 arrests, let's just say

00:40:13.500 it is, is not nearly enough.

00:40:15.760 So I think educating parents is going to do a lot more.

00:40:18.720 And that's why I'm doing these podcasts.

00:40:20.140 I'm not doing it for me.

00:40:21.080 I'm doing this for parents and children, of course.

00:40:24.980 Where's the forum?

00:40:26.360 You said there are these chat groups where this begins.

00:40:30.340 Where are those?

00:40:31.480 So I have some screenshots of these mental health support groups.

00:40:35.460 Sometimes they're official, like actual mental health support groups where a child may be having suicidal ideations or an eating disorder or whatever it may be.

00:40:44.560 And these guys will join there looking for the child that's, you know, that's suffering.

00:40:49.900 And then they reach out to them and pull them out of that site.

00:40:52.920 So there's the official real sites that really will help you for your mental health.

00:40:57.540 And they're luring from there.

00:40:59.440 And then they create their own fake ones where they'll post on Twitter that'll say,

00:41:03.580 you know, are you struggling with XYZ?

00:41:06.140 Join this group. 0.61

00:41:07.140 They join the group.

00:41:08.460 Everybody's all nice to you and friendly and bubbly.

00:41:11.160 And then the second that you send that nude photo, and I'm sure, you know, if you,

00:41:15.680 if like for me when I was a kid getting bullied in school for example I just it's something that

00:41:22.580 at the time I thought it would never go away I thought that my life was over I thought that no

00:41:26.980 matter you know no matter what I did like nobody was ever going to like me you know and and I

00:41:32.880 relate with these these kids that when they send these nude photos they think my life's ruined you

00:41:38.540 know if this if this gets out to my school or to my family or to my you know boss or whatever it

00:41:43.760 may be, that they're never going to come back from it. Yeah, they made a mistake. They shouldn't

00:41:48.720 have been sending a naked photo of themselves on the internet. I get that. But their life will be

00:41:53.800 okay. It doesn't mean you have to end your life over it. And that's what these guys want you to

00:41:58.720 do. They want you to hurt yourself to the point where they're recording it. They create content

00:42:04.640 from it and send it to other groups and brag about what they're doing. And the end result

00:42:10.400 is them trying to get you to end your life

00:42:12.880 and cause as much violence and extremism as possible.

00:42:18.040 And like I said, I have video after video of these people

00:42:21.000 live on camera talking to these group members,

00:42:25.640 stabbing strangers, lighting people on fire, 0.88

00:42:28.120 kicking old women down the steps. 0.99

00:42:29.880 I could go on and on and on. 0.96

00:42:31.860 I mean, it's very disturbing stuff, but it's happening.

00:42:34.300 And kids are susceptible to this and they're at risk.

00:42:39.560 I mean, they genuinely are at risk.

00:42:40.760 This is not me.

00:42:41.840 I'm not like putting a tinfoil hat on right now

00:42:44.160 and saying like, this is a problem.

00:42:45.420 This is a problem, like a significant one.

00:42:49.620 So I would like to show you that.

00:42:51.140 I know you're uncomfortable with it.

00:42:52.680 I just want you to see.

00:42:53.640 Please do.

00:42:54.320 Okay.

00:42:55.660 I'm just, as you're talking,

00:42:56.840 I'm thinking like, how did we get to a place like this?

00:43:02.360 Evil.

00:43:02.680 I think that, you know,

00:43:03.760 we could get on a deep conversation about this,

00:43:06.100 but I, and people might say I'm nuts,

00:43:08.360 but I believe that we're, we could be in the end times.

00:43:11.400 Like it's, the world's pretty messed up right now.

00:43:14.700 So.

00:43:15.100 Yeah.

00:43:15.520 The love between people will grow cold.

00:43:17.560 That is predicted.

00:43:19.040 It is.

00:43:19.500 And it clearly has.

00:43:20.540 And to hurt people for the pure joy of hurting them.

00:43:23.740 That's it.

00:43:24.340 There is no other benefit.

00:43:25.980 Yeah.

00:43:26.340 And I've never seen anything like that in my life.

00:43:28.420 You know, I especially coordinated

00:43:30.180 and connected with real Satanist groups,

00:43:32.740 like Order of Nine Angles,

00:43:34.080 like a real Satanist group off of the internet.

00:43:37.260 they have a direct connection with them as well.

00:43:39.260 So they identify as Satanists.

00:43:40.780 I will say Russia banned Satanism.

00:43:42.740 Putin banned Satanism.

00:43:44.060 That's one of the reasons they hate Putin.

00:43:45.660 And if you look at who hates Putin the most,

00:43:47.500 it's not the anti-Satanists.

00:43:49.800 Oh, you can say whatever you want,

00:43:51.840 but a normal country would just ban this.

00:43:53.540 Sorry, you can't try to evoke spiritual evil in my country

00:43:58.580 because you'll destroy it, and they have.

00:44:01.020 Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely illegal what they're doing.

00:44:03.100 There's some weird law with child sexual abuse material,

00:44:06.320 CSAM is obviously a child that's naked. But when a child cuts their wrists or they do something

00:44:12.280 like that, unless it is sexualized, it's not considered CSAM. So I believe that the same way

00:44:19.100 that we made an exception in the United States with AI-generated child pornography or CSAM,

00:44:24.960 we made an exception that we treat that as the real thing. Because people post pictures of their

00:44:30.220 kids all the time on social media, and I have these groups, I have screenshots of these groups

00:44:33.940 with 30,000, 40,000 users in them

00:44:35.800 that are using other people's children with AI

00:44:38.620 and putting them in vulnerable, horrible positions.

00:44:41.720 And it's like, I don't want to be the guy

00:44:44.040 going on social media saying,

00:44:45.200 hey, don't post your child that you're so proud of 0.98

00:44:47.560 because these guys are weirdos.

00:44:49.460 But like the size of these groups,

00:44:51.600 they have a pretty good reason to say it, you know?

00:44:53.580 And I can prove it.

00:44:54.760 It's not me just saying it.

00:44:56.480 Let me show you this group in particular.

00:44:58.920 Like, cause I put it in folders.

00:45:00.840 trigger warning here uh we don't you know it's it's a lot tucker so here speaking speaking to

00:45:09.200 the mic here there's a lot here and and it starts with luring which this is you know this is some

00:45:14.700 mental health stuff um join cool friendly server to help you go through your hard times and you

00:45:21.440 can see harm nation here that's one of the things that they use harm nation yep and you see that

00:45:26.200 says com so com is connected to 764 so this this looks like okay that looks like a younger girl

00:45:33.280 join this friendly server for you know to help you through your depression another one outpatient

00:45:38.520 wellness center um and then the description kind of gives away what it is no child form no gore

00:45:45.520 leaking no drugs guns or nudity i mean you shouldn't have to be specifying that in a

00:45:49.940 outpatient wellness group um and this is uh there was a girl who um did something horrible to

00:45:58.000 herself as well who was interested in gore sites and she was a you know she you know she wasn't 0.99

00:46:04.240 look she wasn't supposed to be looking at this type of stuff online but she was interested in

00:46:07.360 the edgy stuff that makes sense and uh and that's what this is here so it says join if you are any 0.83

00:46:12.220 of the following mentally ill fatherless daddy issues schizo borderline personality disorder 0.89

00:46:16.700 or femso which means you act a little feminine as a guy um and then this is a direct invitation to 0.97

00:46:22.820 you know just these groups where you're going to be lured and uh and then eventually extorted

00:46:28.620 um and then here turns into the grooming stage which you know there's an entire checklist here

00:46:36.100 they there's so many of these like 220 page documents on how like and i'll skip through

00:46:41.780 this but it's saying you know that uh that you can find victims on games like roblox or on social

00:46:49.720 media platforms like x formerly known as twitter reddit and instagram once you've found your victim

00:46:55.360 you have to spend a lot of time on her make her think you can relate to a lot of stuff and play

00:47:00.060 games with her call her cute nicknames when uh when you've talked for a little while like princess 1.00

00:47:05.400 darling honey etc this will make her more attached to you because females love being called nicknames 1.00

00:47:10.260 once you've talked for a while you're going to ask her to be your girlfriend which she most 1.00

00:47:13.800 likely is going to say yes to now that she's under your control you may start asking her for 0.96

00:47:18.640 stuff like nudes personal information um she doesn't do self if she doesn't do self-harm 1.00

00:47:24.740 already then you must extort your victim but if she does she will almost guaranteed cut for your 0.99

00:47:30.520 dirty needs when you've done all of this so there's like you know guide after guide after guide

00:47:36.000 and then them literally grooming children in these chat logs here,

00:47:39.840 which I'll skip over because there's just so much to read.

00:47:44.120 You know, pretending to be nice and how much they love them.

00:47:46.160 Please call me back. I love you. I'll do anything.

00:47:50.700 And this is where things get a little more graphic.

00:47:54.940 So the extortion steps are, and I'll skip through this as well.

00:48:00.960 To start off for you, to be able to extort,

00:48:03.360 you must also have the ability to groom. Without grooming, you won't get any information or any

00:48:07.780 nudes. And if you groomed your victim, you pretty much have control of her. To extort a female

00:48:12.240 properly, you must have the following personal information, addresses, name, phone numbers, 0.79

00:48:16.740 and nudes. And once you have this stuff, you may start threatening your victim with, for example,

00:48:21.880 sending her nudes to her parents, swatting, which I'm sure you're familiar with swatting,

00:48:25.800 and leaking personal information, etc. She doesn't do as you say, if she doesn't do as you say,

00:48:31.300 examples. Make a blood sign, which means like cut yourself and write on the walls, which I'll show

00:48:36.620 you in a second here. Make a cut sign, which is cutting usernames into their body. Kill your cat,

00:48:44.860 kill yourself. At the end, if you've done everything correctly, you should have gotten 1.00

00:48:48.700 exactly what you want to. Remember, never say content is content because no one wants to see

00:48:53.900 some S word cat scratches, which means like not cutting yourself deep enough. To be honest with

00:48:59.280 you, that is nothing. That is not even 10% of how bad this gets. And I know that people that

00:49:08.160 are watching this are not going to see these videos and pictures. I hope not. Yeah. Because

00:49:13.220 that's so upsetting that, and this whole conversation came about because I was down

00:49:19.240 at Sean Ryan's place in Tennessee and he was overwhelmed and really wounded for real. Man,

00:49:26.680 and it was a Navy SEAL, seen a lot,

00:49:28.780 and this just undid him for a time,

00:49:31.180 and I can see why.

00:49:34.040 I just feel like the only way

00:49:36.040 that that's ever going to get fixed

00:49:37.300 is not through law enforcement,

00:49:39.900 federal law enforcement,

00:49:42.160 but through Christian religious revival. 0.98

00:49:46.140 I mean, only an atheist country

00:49:49.220 could have stuff like that. 0.81

00:49:50.180 It's unbelievable.

00:49:51.900 It's sad, and I agree with you,

00:49:53.560 and I believe in God.

00:49:55.000 I think that, you know, that these people are the definition of evil.

00:49:59.940 I can't find any other justification of why this stuff even happens outside of evil.

00:50:07.840 It does make you reassess the satanic sacrifice panic of the 1980s.

00:50:14.660 We were told Dorothy Rabinowitz of the Wall Street Journal told us it was a panic, and I believed her. 0.81

00:50:20.040 there were a bunch of arrests in the 80s of these satanic cult rings that were abusing children and

00:50:26.460 there was a lot of evidence it was real but then there was some evidence that it wasn't real and

00:50:30.900 like i didn't know what to think and then i remember thinking at the time this is in the

00:50:34.400 early 90s like there's no way that could actually happen they're not organized satanic groups 0.95

00:50:40.300 sacrificing animals harming children killing children holding black masses like this america

00:50:47.220 man it's weird it's very but it's clearly true it's clearly true and and i and tucker i haven't 0.81

00:50:53.240 like you don't want to see it but you know i don't i can show you these people in the masses

00:50:58.500 masses these groups are not like by people in them there's mass quantities of people in these

00:51:04.280 groups that are doing this this you know that are participating in this behavior uh as well as uh

00:51:10.900 as well as trying to join these groups they require proof of crime is what they call so like

00:51:15.240 if you want to be a part of a specific group, you have to prove that you have victims, whether that

00:51:20.140 be digital victims that were sex stewarded, or maybe you went out and murdered a homeless person,

00:51:26.540 which is, I have a couple of videos of homeless people being murdered. And, you know, one that

00:51:31.980 will never leave my brain is, I just brought up the old woman. He's on a call with somebody from

00:51:38.580 the group. He kicks her down the steps and, you know, and he starts just beating on her. And then

00:51:44.460 he slits her throat, you know, and, and you, you watch this and he's doing this live with somebody

00:51:49.240 on a phone call laughing. And, um, and then you see him running through a field with a knife.

00:51:53.820 It has blood all over it. And, and it was just a senseless act of violence for, for evil. I mean,

00:51:59.400 it's just evil and it infuriates me so much to the point and upsets me, of course. And that's

00:52:04.500 why I talked about in the beginning, the compartmentalization, if I wasn't able to

00:52:08.060 turn this off, I won't be able to function. I can't, you know, I am, I'm not heartless. I don't,

00:52:13.040 I do have a soul, and I go to church twice a week, and I pray to God that this stuff goes,

00:52:18.540 you know, not just this, but any type of child crime just disappears. I know it's not realistic.

00:52:23.120 I know that evil powers this country, and I know that Satan is a prince of the air,

00:52:28.400 is what it says in the Bible. I know these things, but, you know, I have to understand

00:52:34.040 that my spot is to use my voice, use my experience, use my time to educate as many people as I 0.93

00:52:41.160 possibly can about these problems because unfortunately, you know, one in four girls

00:52:45.840 are hurt, you know, sexually as children. One in 20 boys are in that number. What does that number

00:52:51.880 end up being in the future? Especially if these victims, you know, not all of them, but a large

00:52:56.740 number of them reoffend in their lifetime. What happens in the next generation? Is it going to

00:53:01.300 be one in two girls and one in 10 boys? And where does this end? So I pray that this ends and

00:53:08.060 And parents actually open up and they realize that these devices, like you hand your kid a phone, an iPad, a computer, a gaming console, because, you know, it's almost like a babysitter to them.

00:53:19.800 When I was a child, which was only 20 something years ago, my mom gave me a prepaid phone that I had to top up with minutes, you know, and I'm sure people can relate to that.

00:53:29.400 If she said, give me that phone, I wouldn't have cared.

00:53:32.360 But these kids, that's their connection to the world.

00:53:34.440 That's like trying to, it's like cutting off one of their hands.

00:53:36.580 you know that these phones are their connection to people and if they're scared to come to you

00:53:41.580 about something like what i just showed you or somebody that's extorting them or grooming them

00:53:46.580 or they don't know what grooming is and they can't you know they can't determine that they're being

00:53:50.200 groomed um having these conversations with your kids and knowing that they're going to come to

00:53:54.780 you if something like this happens even if it is embarrassing to them um could potentially save

00:54:00.120 their life you know and uh and that that's why i'm doing what i'm doing i'm not doing it because i

00:54:04.740 I enjoy looking at children cutting their wrists.

00:54:07.240 It's so bad.

00:54:08.060 It's so bad for anyone to see those images.

00:54:11.880 And I feel sorry for you.

00:54:13.020 And I know, you know, a lot of people have,

00:54:15.440 I've seen some ugly things,

00:54:16.660 not that, you know, nothing by comparison

00:54:18.500 to an afternoon on the internet though.

00:54:20.660 Yeah, the internet's wild.

00:54:22.340 And the reason why-

00:54:23.400 Is there any effort at all to,

00:54:25.700 there's a lot of effort to police my political speech,

00:54:28.000 any criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu

00:54:29.720 was instantly policed.

00:54:31.480 But is there any real effort to police this?

00:54:34.880 So one thing going back to Roblox is they banned vigilantes on their platform, Schlepp being one of them.

00:54:41.640 So explain what that means.

00:54:42.880 So a vigilante is somebody that's taking the law into their own hands.

00:54:46.920 And Schlepp, he got, I think it was six of them arrested with mugshots from the Roblox platform.

00:54:52.780 So he pretended to be a child on the platform, waited for people to message him.

00:54:58.240 But even as a civilian, entrapment doesn't exist.

00:55:00.560 You have to be law enforcement for it to be entrapment.

00:55:02.200 But he pretended to be, you know, just like a law enforcement officer.

00:55:07.360 Grown adults messaged him.

00:55:09.280 He got six arrests in a short period of time.

00:55:11.640 And then Roblox banned him from the platform and sent him a cease and desist in the mail.

00:55:16.700 Because he's a vigilante on the platform and they believe that that causes more danger.

00:55:20.520 And they put this ridiculous press release out that, you know, people can look into.

00:55:24.740 From there, Schlepp started to go public.

00:55:26.820 Who owns Roblox?

00:55:28.680 This guy, I forget the guy's name.

00:55:30.780 I can bring it up if you want.

00:55:32.200 Um, it's a, it's a, it's a publicly traded company.

00:55:35.420 Um, but the CEO's name is escaping me at the moment.

00:55:38.640 Um, I think it's whatever.

00:55:40.740 Um, Schlepp though is a younger kid and he's been working with Chris Hansen on, you know,

00:55:46.620 doing some awesome stuff and documentary.

00:55:48.940 And unfortunately he was groomed on the platform as a child, which is what motivated him to

00:55:53.280 be a vigilante on the platform.

00:55:55.100 and um you know i uh i think that you know i i just can't comprehend why a platform would uh

00:56:03.760 you know why why a platform would ban the people that are helping

00:56:07.520 make it cleaner you know even if it is in a why do you think what's the motivation there i have

00:56:13.980 no idea did they reach out to him and say thank you for what you've done no they did the opposite

00:56:19.160 they sent a cease and desist in the mail so to his house which is you know he posted it on twitter

00:56:24.240 Did they allege he did something wrong?

00:56:27.180 I don't believe that.

00:56:28.640 I think they just were saying that it was dangerous.

00:56:31.900 I'd have to look at the press release for the exact words.

00:56:34.080 I don't want to get sued by Roblox, so I'm trying to be careful with what I say here.

00:56:38.400 But this is all factual.

00:56:40.660 I mean, they put out a press release that said it, and he did get a cease and desist.

00:56:46.360 All of that stuff happened.

00:56:48.620 And from what I was told, they don't allow law enforcement to conduct investigations on their platform either.

00:56:53.580 That doesn't mean the law enforcement doesn't, but they don't allow for it, supposedly.

00:56:57.960 So I don't understand what they're angling or what they're trying to do, posturing to do, for other words, but it's weird.

00:57:06.060 It's just a strange thing.

00:57:07.540 Well, if they're punishing the guy who is trying to punish the criminals, it's kind of like defund the police.

00:57:15.860 Like, okay, then whose side are you on?

00:57:17.340 Yeah, well, let me show you what their stock looks like.

00:57:19.260 now after just, you know, talking about that exact thing. Uh, I think that a lot of people

00:57:24.120 are in agreement, agreement with us. Uh, like, why would you, why would you do that? I mean,

00:57:29.240 here's the six months that you can, you can look at this over, you know, it's split in half.

00:57:34.320 So I know that, I mean, what is the top article here? Uh, understand, understanding Roblox grooming

00:57:40.400 problem, you know, for being the largest children's game. If the headline article is

00:57:45.740 or grooming problem, then maybe you should do something about it or take bigger actions other

00:57:50.880 than age. And also you don't want to go to hell for eternity. So that's also a good motivator,

00:57:54.760 I think. I don't think many people in Silicon Valley are worried about hell and they should be.

00:57:58.600 I agree with that. So it's a, it's, it is what it is. And it's very sad for me. And, uh, and I

00:58:05.140 don't want people to be, you know, the people that don't know me at all. And they're watching

00:58:09.500 me for the first time to think that I'm just consuming myself with evil for fun, that I do

00:58:15.320 this. And these are active investigations as well. I'm showing you the stuff that's publicly out

00:58:20.040 there. But I'm still trying to get them arrested. I'm still actively assisting in the arrest of

00:58:25.760 these individuals and more. Can't talk about those cases, of course. But this public stuff,

00:58:32.320 it's not fun for me. I feel like this is a purpose that was given to me by God. And

00:58:36.420 But I don't know how much you know about my story, if Sean told you or I told you.

00:58:42.720 No, tell me.

00:58:43.120 So I get a text message from my friend's wife, and it had three screenshots in it.

00:58:48.340 And at this time, I had no idea about, I obviously knew predators and pedophiles.

00:58:52.360 What were you doing for a living then?

00:58:53.520 At that time, I owned a medical facility for substance use and mental health.

00:58:59.500 I changed it from abuse to use, so it's a weird thing.

00:59:03.240 I got a text message from my friend's wife, and it was three different screenshots of

00:59:08.580 this horrible website that was on the clear web that anyone could visit.

00:59:11.620 This is like not the quote unquote dark web that people talk about.

00:59:15.460 It's really just, it's called Tor, the Onion Router.

00:59:19.240 On the clear web, anyone can see this website, and one of these three photos was a picture

00:59:24.040 of a child that was sitting in a bathtub.

00:59:25.640 You could see their back.

00:59:26.880 You could tell that they were nude, but you could just see their back.

00:59:28.980 and the title of the forum post said

00:59:31.360 they have no idea what's going to happen to them tonight.

00:59:34.760 And underneath of it,

00:59:35.880 all of these people were talking about

00:59:37.740 what they were going to do to this person's child.

00:59:40.060 So this is my first time ever seeing anything like this.

00:59:42.800 And I'm like disgusted

00:59:45.320 on a level that I've never felt before.

00:59:48.300 So I leave where I'm at.

00:59:50.180 I physically left the location of where I was at

00:59:52.160 because I just had this switch flip in my brain

00:59:55.380 that I didn't know I had.

00:59:56.340 I don't have children.

00:59:57.240 I wasn't abused as a child.

00:59:58.540 It had to have been a God thing for me.

01:00:03.140 So I go home with the intention of trying to probe around this website and take it down,

01:00:07.680 which without all the technical details for the nerds that are listening,

01:00:12.260 I was going to do a distributed denial of service attack.

01:00:14.560 Just keep the site shut down.

01:00:16.520 It would have been impossible to load the site, which is a very simple, easy attack to do.

01:00:20.960 It sounds crazy, but it's a very easy one.

01:00:23.200 But I got lucky, if you want to say lucky, I got lucky that they used a forum called Zenforo and they used a theme that happened to be nulled, meaning they didn't pay for access to use this theme.

01:00:36.800 And that theme gave me access to their entire server, which included their entire database.

01:00:42.280 So now this website that is absolutely terrible,

01:00:46.040 that children are on selling themselves,

01:00:48.260 that people are on looking for that type of material

01:00:50.860 and chatting about it on an open forum that anyone can read.

01:00:54.880 I now have full access to their entire site

01:00:57.460 to download anything I want

01:00:59.420 and to try to uncover who's running it.

01:01:02.180 So I started to have a little bit of common sense

01:01:05.800 because I got an adrenaline rush at this point

01:01:08.100 when I realized I have access to this.

01:01:09.700 common sense started to kick in. If you download all of this data, you're going to be in possession

01:01:15.780 of CSAM. And I didn't know the term CSAM back then. I just used the term child porn. And I don't

01:01:22.320 like the word child porn person. I feel like it implies consent. But I knew that if I downloaded

01:01:27.900 this database, I cannot include images, videos, any attachments, because when I go to deliver

01:01:35.500 this to law enforcement. I don't want to get wrapped up in anything like that. The last thing

01:01:40.080 I need is somebody Google searching Ryan Montgomery, and then something like that

01:01:43.240 horrible comes up, you know? So I thought about that even back then. And I wrote a script to

01:01:49.760 extract the database. And the first user, and exclude all that stuff, the first user in that

01:01:56.100 database was a politician in Virginia named Nathan Larson. And he's a little bit of a whack job

01:02:02.860 politician but he was you know running for congress uh the guy is a libertarian i believe so

01:02:10.040 i believe so um he uh yeah so so nathan larson was running this website never heard of him before at

01:02:15.580 that time and uh i start to you know export the database there's 7 000 total people in this

01:02:21.720 database across four different backups that were on the server it was just a combination of a ton

01:02:25.760 of users so this is my this is my beginning my i go from not knowing anything about this at all

01:02:32.460 to now I got a database of 7,000 pedophiles

01:02:36.180 and I want to do something with it.

01:02:37.800 So I reach out to my attorney first,

01:02:41.680 actually, I believe it was,

01:02:42.680 but I reached out to him

01:02:43.900 who reached out to the task force

01:02:45.900 in the local,

01:02:46.660 like the Palm Beach County task force,

01:02:48.060 I think it was,

01:02:48.720 or Broward, one or the other.

01:02:51.160 And then IC3.gov,

01:02:53.640 National Center for Missing,

01:02:55.200 NCMIC, National Center for Missing

01:02:57.420 and Exploited Children.

01:02:59.260 And then 11 different media stations

01:03:01.460 because there was a six-month gap in between law enforcement not ever showing up at my door like I

01:03:06.580 thought they were going to. And then I was like, okay, well, I'm just bringing this to the media

01:03:10.300 because I feel like they may take action if I go to the media. So I spoke to all sides, left,

01:03:20.660 right, middle, whatever. Politics really isn't my thing. So I spoke to all and any reporter that

01:03:25.980 would take the time to talk to me. Every single one of them was interested in running the story.

01:03:29.920 Not one of them was saying like, you know, we're, we don't want to take this story.

01:03:34.340 They all came back with almost an identical answer that their legal team was not willing

01:03:38.060 to run it for liability reasons, for legal reasons or how the data was obtained.

01:03:42.380 So my rebuttal to that was, you know, just run it without my name, run it without any

01:03:47.300 of the illegally quote unquote obtained material.

01:03:49.920 Just let people know that this website exists, that there's children on here that are selling

01:03:53.500 their body.

01:03:54.180 All, you know, let them, let parents know that this is happening.

01:03:57.560 Not one of them run, run the story.

01:03:59.620 So I'm very aggravated at this point

01:04:01.980 that nobody wants to run anything.

01:04:04.200 Six months goes by, Nathan Larson's,

01:04:06.700 in my Google alerts, I get a notification,

01:04:08.840 Nathan Larson's arrested with a 13-year-old girl

01:04:11.500 in Denver, Colorado that he kidnapped and raped. 0.94

01:04:14.640 And I was so aggravated 0.94

01:04:16.980 because every one of those articles,

01:04:19.000 I know that could have been prevented

01:04:20.220 if they listened to me in the first place.

01:04:22.000 There's 7,000 other people in this database

01:04:24.680 that nothing has happened to at this point.

01:04:27.760 And I didn't want to just leak it to the internet

01:04:29.800 because if I leaked it to the internet

01:04:31.100 and there were concerned parents on there,

01:04:33.540 which it would have been hard for that to happen

01:04:35.300 because the application process to become a user,

01:04:37.720 you have to answer some wild questions.

01:04:39.400 But even undercovers,

01:04:40.420 like I didn't want to leak the database

01:04:41.660 and potentially do what like Ashley Madison did.

01:04:44.660 You know, like people killed themselves over that leak.

01:04:48.160 So, you know, I am waiting all this time.

01:04:51.680 No, law enforcement is not helping.

01:04:53.160 Media is not helping.

01:04:54.540 Nathan gets arrested with this little girl

01:04:56.180 and they don't include the website at all in any articles.

01:05:00.140 They talk about him being a person that ran for Congress.

01:05:03.280 You seem like you've heard the story,

01:05:05.580 but you probably haven't heard about the websites that he was running.

01:05:08.680 And 7,000 people, it's not a crazy number,

01:05:12.060 but it's a lot of pedophiles in one spot.

01:05:14.620 And if I got all of their email addresses and all their usernames

01:05:17.960 and all their private messages and everything you need,

01:05:20.640 I don't know why this wouldn't be a case on a golden platter

01:05:25.000 or a silver platter for law enforcement.

01:05:26.920 So I was very angry at that point.

01:05:28.900 And the only thing that I could think to do,

01:05:30.600 because I didn't have the network I have now.

01:05:32.300 I'm just a computer hacker

01:05:34.060 that owns healthcare facilities

01:05:36.260 and I'm kind of staying in the dark.

01:05:38.980 So I was like,

01:05:40.540 I see these vigilante predator groups on YouTube.

01:05:43.540 And at that time, it wasn't like they are now.

01:05:45.220 There's a ton of them that exist now

01:05:46.740 where they go out,

01:05:48.080 they have decoys who pretend they're kids

01:05:50.220 and then they go out and confront them one by one.

01:05:52.980 And I saw back then there were only like, you know, a few of them on YouTube, not a ton.

01:05:59.180 So I asked them because one, I'm sorry, I'm skipping a little bit ahead here.

01:06:03.900 So those groups that were there, I noticed that in the videos where they're confronting these predators, where they believe they're meeting up with a real child and then they get confronted by an adult, similar to how Chris Hansen was doing it with law enforcement.

01:06:15.360 They were just doing it without law enforcement.

01:06:16.880 they wouldn't know the person's name a lot of these groups or where they worked or what their

01:06:20.620 wife's name was or what kind of car they drove or any details about them that would just show up

01:06:25.300 so i was like okay that's where my value could come in i can i can identify these people and uh

01:06:30.420 and i you know there's a better chance of this guy staying if you know where he works if you know

01:06:35.900 what he does and all of his personal details he's got a better chance of not just turning around and

01:06:40.160 getting back in his car and driving away so i reach out to these channels i offer you know to

01:06:45.020 to provide them with a full case file on anyone that they send identifiers to.

01:06:50.180 And a few of them accepted.

01:06:52.780 And for a couple of years, I did that.

01:06:55.120 So I was helping these channels anonymously.

01:06:57.540 I wasn't putting my name out there.

01:06:58.940 I wasn't asking for any money.

01:07:00.340 I just wanted to help.

01:07:01.280 And that's what made me feel better about nothing happening in the first place

01:07:04.340 with this one website with the politician.

01:07:07.220 Then, skip those two years of me doing that,

01:07:10.460 a friend of mine, a professional MMA fighter,

01:07:13.020 we start uh and there's a reason why i say that he's a professional mma fighter um and we're

01:07:19.000 sitting in a garage i'm telling him this exact story i pop open a chat room i show him you know

01:07:24.280 how bad this problem is again demonstrating that it can happen anywhere anytime unfortunately zero

01:07:30.760 effort required um and he is more than willing to start a group with me uh to catch these guys in

01:07:37.420 our local area and in delray beach florida so it was called and he's still running it it's called

01:07:42.800 the 561 PC. And once he starts doing that, and he's got a little bit of a social media following

01:07:48.980 and people start watching us catch predators, I'm behind the camera, and he's the face of it,

01:07:55.300 reading the chat logs to these predators one by one. A couple of the podcasts that focus on MMA

01:08:01.580 wanted to talk to him and ask him about Catch a Predator. He brung me along on these podcasts,

01:08:07.720 and one of them asked me the question, how did you get started? So that question right there

01:08:12.420 is what changed the complete trajectory of my life.

01:08:16.560 Like we wouldn't be sitting here right now

01:08:18.060 if that question wasn't asked.

01:08:19.480 And, you know, like the butterfly effect type of situation.

01:08:22.160 But they asked that question.

01:08:24.740 I explained that there was this case.

01:08:26.360 I still had all that data,

01:08:27.500 still nothing done with it legally.

01:08:29.280 I just have this database of all these people,

01:08:31.580 nothing done.

01:08:33.000 And from there, I have all kinds of media

01:08:34.700 reaching out the next day

01:08:35.780 because a clip from that podcast

01:08:38.180 got 10 million views in less than 24 hours

01:08:40.680 on a smaller podcast.

01:08:42.540 I wake up and my inbox is full.

01:08:44.420 My phone's getting phone calls, getting emails

01:08:46.360 and everybody wants to hear the story.

01:08:48.980 Nobody wanted to listen to me the day before,

01:08:50.720 but now they want to hear it

01:08:52.140 because it went viral on social media.

01:08:54.360 And one of those people was Sean Ryan.

01:08:57.180 Sean Ryan, and I didn't know Sean at this time.

01:08:59.760 We never even spoke to each other,

01:09:01.300 but he saw my clip and he was like,

01:09:03.380 I want to get your message out there.

01:09:05.060 And he took a huge chance on me

01:09:07.240 because I could have been lying. 0.98

01:09:08.680 I could have been a nut job, a schizophrenic. 0.94

01:09:11.300 I might've been making this whole story up.

01:09:13.040 But Sean took me, you know, took the chance on me of not only that it was truthful, but

01:09:19.240 the chance of releasing that type of content with screenshots and chat logs and all this

01:09:23.800 stuff on YouTube with the chance that he might lose his channel.

01:09:26.860 So I go in there in the Sean Ryan show and I'm wearing like, you know, a t-shirt.

01:09:31.860 I say this a lot, but like I'm wearing an oversized t-shirt, paler than I am now.

01:09:37.140 I'm skinny. I, you know, I'm hesitating on my words. I got lights in my face. I probably drank

01:09:42.660 eight bottles of water. I'm so nervous, you know, and not because of, you know, talking about what

01:09:48.900 I wanted to get out there. I just not used to being on a podcast, you know, it just wasn't my

01:09:53.100 thing. And I finished it up after we talk about gadgets, which, you know, we'll get into. I want

01:09:58.640 to show you some fun, happy stuff in a minute. But, you know, I start doing that and then I get

01:10:03.940 into this stuff and uh and i walk out of the studio and i asked sean i'm like hey man how do

01:10:08.480 you think that went be honest with me because i i really felt like i messed it up and he was like

01:10:12.680 yeah man i think it went pretty well and and uh him and i both didn't think it was going to make

01:10:16.760 it five minutes on youtube because they're they're pretty strict sometimes when it comes to

01:10:20.340 when you especially when you show that type of content um so we didn't think it was going to

01:10:25.540 make it more than five minutes and i was okay with that i was like okay fine at least i tried

01:10:29.620 I did everything I possibly could. Sean sends me a text as soon as it's released,

01:10:34.400 pretty close to as soon as it was released. And I'm sure you've seen this, one of 10,

01:10:37.920 meaning your video is doing well. And I didn't know what it meant. Sean said that it was doing

01:10:42.540 well. It became his biggest podcast that he's ever done, still current day, on Apple, Spotify,

01:10:48.720 YouTube combined. It's got hundreds of millions of views, a total of, with the shorts, billions of

01:10:53.720 views. And I'm not saying this because I'm some noteworthy individual that at the time that

01:10:59.460 had like a, you know, that would have brought that type of traffic in. I think what happened is

01:11:03.580 people could resonate and understand that this is not, this is not something that is an uncommon

01:11:09.320 problem. It's something, it's a taboo topic that people don't talk about until it happens or, you

01:11:14.740 know, or happens to someone around them or happens in their family. And I'm showing the significance

01:11:19.160 of the problem, not just with my words, but with factual evidence, you know, and especially with

01:11:24.320 a live demonstration of it happening on the podcast. And, you know, Sean and I got very

01:11:30.540 close. And now, I mean, this is kind of my first time announcing this, but like I'm the godfather

01:11:35.200 of Sean's child, you know, like him and I are very close and that means a lot to me. I mean,

01:11:39.940 that's his firstborn child. And, you know, I don't want to go into detail about his personal

01:11:46.060 stuff, but that, Sean gave me the okay to say that. And I, you know, I love the guy very much.

01:11:52.500 And he took a chance on me that nobody else would, you know.

01:11:56.120 And there's a whole other story that you might be interested in

01:11:59.420 with Project Veritas getting involved and then fumbling it.

01:12:02.380 And, you know, their interim CEO telling me the story wasn't a title wave

01:12:06.300 and they threw it out.

01:12:07.200 But the journalist at Project Veritas tried very hard.

01:12:10.440 They did expose a few people in that original database.

01:12:14.840 They tried to partner up with Sean on the release of it, but completely failed.

01:12:18.660 Why do you think that Project Veritas wouldn't run it?

01:12:22.500 I think they're just extremely incompetent

01:12:24.920 after James O'Keefe either left or was fired,

01:12:27.420 whatever actually happened there.

01:12:28.500 No one really knows except for him.

01:12:31.000 And I genuinely don't,

01:12:32.240 I don't even know him personally,

01:12:33.400 but they reach out,

01:12:34.320 they said they want to do it.

01:12:35.260 The journalists spent a ton of time

01:12:36.920 uncovering these people

01:12:38.440 and showing up where they were at,

01:12:40.200 recording them undercover

01:12:41.220 and asking them,

01:12:42.300 hey, what were you doing on the site?

01:12:44.040 And why, you know,

01:12:45.020 did you say this?

01:12:45.720 Did you say that?

01:12:46.380 And they had all this evidence,

01:12:47.420 but since it didn't make it

01:12:48.720 into the New York Post

01:12:49.760 or the New York Times,

01:12:50.740 They weren't willing to continue with the story.

01:12:53.740 And then I looked into the, you know, I looked into the circulation on those, whatever one

01:12:59.360 it was, press or the Times or post or the Times.

01:13:02.740 And the circulation was like a tenth of what social, like, you know, a small influencer

01:13:06.620 on social media would be getting in, you know, that year.

01:13:09.200 So it made no sense to see the interim CEO.

01:13:11.980 Her name is Hannah Giles. 0.99

01:13:13.080 I don't know if you're familiar with her, but she...

01:13:14.640 Okay, so Hannah gets on the phone with me and says that this story is not a tidal wave

01:13:18.860 and it got completely shut down.

01:13:21.640 Their journalists, on the other hand,

01:13:22.920 were very upset about it

01:13:24.080 because they really cared.

01:13:25.560 It was a passion project for them.

01:13:28.200 The management team,

01:13:30.460 they just threw it out.

01:13:31.560 But Sean Ryan was the one

01:13:32.760 that pushed this story so far

01:13:34.280 that allowed me to get involved

01:13:36.000 with federal law enforcement,

01:13:37.180 to work with Sentinel Foundation,

01:13:39.040 to deal, you know,

01:13:39.740 now I've worked with every agency under the sun.

01:13:41.960 You name the acronym,

01:13:42.960 I've worked with them.

01:13:44.620 And it's, you know,

01:13:46.420 it's a blessing that I never thought

01:13:47.800 whatever happened for me. It's a very dark path that I chose to take, but I believe that I did

01:13:54.500 it for the right reasons. And I told you, I pray, I pray to God every single night that if you don't

01:13:59.600 want this in my life, to take it away from me, you know, and it just, you know, unfortunately

01:14:04.500 keeps getting worse. So you made reference earlier to organized groups that are behind

01:14:10.160 this almost inconceivable effort to make children harm themselves. Satanist groups,

01:14:17.800 what are those groups?

01:14:20.080 So there's a few of them that I'm familiar with

01:14:22.780 or that I've seen, I guess, is a better way to put it.

01:14:25.140 And it just actually reminded me of a conversation

01:14:27.560 I want to show you because a lot of it's senseless.

01:14:30.600 So like the, it's all senseless,

01:14:33.220 but even if they believe that what they're doing is right.

01:14:36.420 So the order of nine angles

01:14:38.460 is one that I believe has been around a long time.

01:14:40.520 The order of nine angles?

01:14:42.220 Yeah, or 09A they go by.

01:14:44.600 They believe in a thing called culling,

01:14:47.320 which is like you know they believe that they get power by harming other people they do um that's a

01:14:54.000 real spiritual principle that's what human sacrifice that's what abortion is that's what

01:14:56.840 human sacrifice is understood that's what you know every ancient religion was about that um

01:15:02.740 from the canaanites till present uh yeah that's like that is literally devil worship you get power

01:15:09.540 from from hurting others and they believe that i mean they openly talk about it and use the words

01:15:15.740 culling is culling culling yeah oh nine a oh nine a and then uh i saw a reference recently to uh nlm

01:15:23.720 no lives matter and um and if you don't mind i can pull it out i want to show you this conversation

01:15:29.040 because the guy is you know one of them is selling tickets to his suicide and another one is he

01:15:35.780 wanted to be murdered by you know suicide by cop but instead of just letting it happen that way

01:15:40.860 he was talking to one of these these cultists and and he was deciding uh you know should he

01:15:48.020 you know murder a bunch of people on the way out and what group is he gonna do it for you know like

01:15:52.740 just you know right you don't need to i mean what we're watching is like you know a country that

01:15:58.120 needs an exorcism it seriously does and uh and that that conversation if you don't want to say

01:16:02.620 that's okay it's a it's it's a guy that is just he's ready to end his life like and i don't support

01:16:08.520 hurting yourself in any way shape or form but if you're going to do that don't bring other people

01:16:13.620 out with you the whole point of it is i mean suicide's an act of hostility anyone who's been

01:16:18.280 around it can affirm that um so yeah by the way jesus cast the demons the legion of demons out

01:16:26.620 of the man into the herd of pigs was the first thing they do kill themselves oh yeah so like

01:16:31.380 That's a good point.

01:16:32.400 Yeah.

01:16:32.720 No, it's so obviously the product of possession.

01:16:41.620 Order of Nine Angles.

01:16:42.660 What does that mean, Nine Angles?

01:16:44.860 I genuinely don't know.

01:16:46.020 But it's been around a while.

01:16:47.100 Been around a while, yeah.

01:16:48.480 Yeah, I do know that part.

01:16:49.560 And these are groups that are just like internet groups.

01:16:52.440 Yeah, but I think Order of Nine Angles also has physical members that are not just internet.

01:16:57.340 there's a combination between them and like let's just say 764 instead of because there's a ton of

01:17:03.100 subgroups that go underneath of it that do exactly the same thing um they have connections to these

01:17:08.020 real life groups like you know that will go out and you know protest something or go burn a burn

01:17:14.000 a building down or have you ever heard of um like you know i don't want to go off completely off to

01:17:18.640 a different topic here but we we brought up swatting temporarily um do you know what swatting

01:17:23.200 is i do okay so i've been swatted three times just talking about these these things on online

01:17:28.520 um by these these guys and uh you know telling people that there's there's a you know i got

01:17:35.220 which i don't even have a wife but my wife is tied to a chair i got bombs in the windows and i'm going 0.87

01:17:39.940 to kill any cop that comes in the door and you know i request these 9-1-1 calls because i know 0.80

01:17:44.360 the cops in the area i could and you can do freedom of information act or just request it

01:17:48.020 from dispatch and i hear it's not even like you know it doesn't sound anything like me in any of

01:17:52.160 these calls. But SWAT teams are coming to my house and now they got the last one. They called

01:17:57.860 my phone in advance and told me, hey, we got officers around the corner. Like, would you mind

01:18:03.260 just coming out front to make sure everything's all good? And I'm out there with my coffee cup

01:18:07.240 and did a little 360 around. And like, you know, they just are trying to torture me and they've

01:18:12.800 been harassing my family. They've, you know, they've threatened my friends. They've threatened

01:18:17.100 me with death threats. They, you know, you name it, they've done it. What I find baffling is that

01:18:21.680 You and I are talking about these groups.

01:18:22.940 You're naming them.

01:18:23.740 They've harmed you.

01:18:24.880 They clearly harmed or killed other people.

01:18:28.100 What kind of effort is there at the FBI to find these people and prosecute them?

01:18:35.080 It's just, it's not, I don't think that it's a lack of passion.

01:18:39.960 I think that, you know, HSI, for example, all they're focusing on right now is immigration.

01:18:44.720 People are literally leaving their jobs because all, like the actual, from what I've been told,

01:18:50.400 they're not focusing on investigations,

01:18:53.400 especially in child crimes.

01:18:54.580 They're just focusing on immigration.

01:18:56.420 FBI, on the other hand,

01:18:57.980 I don't think the passion isn't there.

01:19:00.220 I think the problem is the resources

01:19:01.700 and the skill set and the training

01:19:04.220 that doesn't exist.

01:19:07.240 Well, if you have active Satanist groups

01:19:09.600 trying to kill people in your country,

01:19:11.120 it seems like that would be a priority. 0.97

01:19:12.440 I mean, I know it's not like

01:19:13.460 January 6th level priority,

01:19:15.200 but like somewhere on the list,

01:19:16.880 you would have to want to address that, right?

01:19:19.120 Totally understand.

01:19:19.880 And they are addressing it, but not to the ability that I know that they could.

01:19:26.100 So, you know, it kind of segued into me coming up with an idea because we send, with Sentinel Foundation, we send people all over the world to train law enforcement on how to use new tools and how to identify people the same way that identify do.

01:19:38.600 The first 10 minutes of our show, training law enforcement how to do those things so that they could go off of an identifier like a username or a profile photo or a phone number or whatever it may be.

01:19:52.360 Let's say it's just a license plate.

01:19:54.740 I've even had one guy, I remember the story, but he was like a plumber.

01:20:00.900 And you could see the logo of the plumbing company and a little portion of his face.

01:20:05.020 and I was able to locate him

01:20:06.840 just based on where he worked.

01:20:08.580 I didn't even know what city or town

01:20:09.900 that he lived in or name.

01:20:11.660 And I went through the,

01:20:12.600 it's simple, but effective,

01:20:14.340 went through the Facebook comments

01:20:15.660 of that particular business.

01:20:18.220 I did a reverse image search,

01:20:19.780 not face search,

01:20:20.600 reverse image search of the logo

01:20:22.280 for the plumbing company,

01:20:24.380 found their Facebook profile

01:20:25.660 and then was able to locate him

01:20:27.820 based off of a little portion of the picture

01:20:30.320 that I could identify him as.

01:20:32.060 Took a lot of legwork.

01:20:33.200 There was no automation.

01:20:33.980 There was no advanced technology there, but sometimes open source intelligence is simple

01:20:40.720 and sometimes it's extremely advanced.

01:20:43.640 And that's why people like myself and other people that are working in this space, you

01:20:48.400 know, if they're good with open source intelligence, because it doesn't just apply to child

01:20:52.280 crimes, it applies to any crime, identifying where somebody is at or what they're doing

01:20:56.920 or what something is or details about a particular thing should be a skill set of all law enforcement,

01:21:01.760 I believe. And we're doing a great job at that with Sentinel. But then with Pentester,

01:21:07.240 we made a product called OSINT Pilot that, you know, it's instead of training and sending people

01:21:13.880 all over the world and country, they can just conversationally talk. This is only for law

01:21:19.320 enforcement, by the way. This is not for consumers. The Pentester product itself is for consumers.

01:21:23.920 But OSINT Pilot, if you're law enforcement, reach out to us, we'll help you out. There's no training

01:21:29.800 required. So you type in a person, let's just say it was that guy that had a logo of a plumbing

01:21:34.860 company on his shirt and his face wasn't really that visible and there wasn't much to go off of.

01:21:41.740 Our tool will take that image, it will take the description, it'll search everything you

01:21:47.380 would do by hand. We have over 40 tools implemented into it. And about 10 minutes later,

01:21:51.920 you'll have a 30 or 40 page report on that individual if it was something it was able to

01:21:56.140 find. Obviously, the more identifiers you add, the more effective it's going to be. But we made

01:22:01.380 something that's never been done before. And it requires no training. Like you said, you don't

01:22:05.140 have a computer, you never use a computer. I guarantee you that if I said, hey, find, you know,

01:22:10.700 John Doe, here's your identifier that you have, the last four digits of his phone number. And,

01:22:15.500 you know, he lives in this city and his, you know, first name and, you know, the last initial,

01:22:21.000 that tool will find him. And even if you didn't know to put that information in,

01:22:26.140 our tool will tell you, you know, it'll tell you what to provide it. So it's something that we

01:22:31.660 built. We're super proud of it. And it's, you know, that's what I believe the FBI should be

01:22:38.720 doing. HSI, everybody should be reaching out to not only myself, but anybody that's willing to

01:22:43.880 provide these OSINT resources or, because it's getting deeper than that. OSINT, SIGINT, human,

01:22:49.220 there's all these different types of intelligence that, you know, more people out there than myself

01:22:53.780 are doing. But, you know, just my opinion. Yeah, it just seems like an emergency. If you have,

01:23:01.140 you know, Satanist groups working to kill Americans and their children, I don't know. 1.00

01:23:09.060 I mean, I know, you know, they're not Iranian, but that would seem like something we should be

01:23:14.720 really working to end. It shouldn't be a computer nerd like myself digging through these chat rooms 1.00

01:23:20.120 or Sentinel Foundation, we should be working in,

01:23:23.340 and a lot of times we're working in tandem

01:23:24.900 with federal law enforcement,

01:23:26.080 like with all of these cases.

01:23:27.560 But when it comes to the mass scale,

01:23:29.480 you're absolutely right.

01:23:30.180 It's not being prioritized in the way

01:23:32.060 that we're prioritizing it.

01:23:33.820 Yeah.

01:23:34.600 I mean, it's everything that will destroy you

01:23:36.600 and your family.

01:23:38.220 What is that box of gadgets right there?

01:23:41.040 I got a lot of gadgets for you

01:23:42.320 and I think that you're going to like them.

01:23:44.140 So let's give this a better, better.

01:23:47.120 No, I don't know if that's happy or not.

01:23:48.920 I'm afraid of gadgets too.

01:23:50.120 Well, no, it's a different type of fear.

01:23:52.300 The other ones are more of a, yeah, I'll show you.

01:23:56.840 I almost messed with you, and I don't want to give away where we're at right now,

01:23:59.920 but downstairs is a very unique place, right?

01:24:02.420 And there's a lamp that happened to be sitting there.

01:24:05.320 I don't know, you know, you probably don't even know it's there,

01:24:07.940 but to the left of the couch, there's a lamp sitting there.

01:24:11.140 And this right here, my friend, his name's Peaks.

01:24:16.880 He took a regular bulb off of Amazon.

01:24:19.480 It's called Wise.

01:24:21.280 And he made a bunch of different ones.

01:24:23.400 So you could buy this smart bulb on Amazon

01:24:25.280 and make it change colors, essentially, is all that it does.

01:24:29.320 He put modified software or firmware onto this bulb.

01:24:33.820 And I can match the colors of your other bulbs.

01:24:36.500 Let's say I was in your bathroom using it,

01:24:39.160 swapped out a bulb, and left your office.

01:24:42.040 Now I have an implant that I can monitor your Wi-Fi

01:24:45.400 or try to pivot from this device to your other devices

01:24:48.120 and take over your computers, you know, in your house or your office.

01:24:52.320 And, you know, I could show you, if you had a lamp, I could show you, but, you know.

01:24:55.980 Tell me what it does.

01:24:57.040 So I leave that in your house and then I get to do what?

01:25:00.280 So leave this in a house, for example.

01:25:03.820 The goal would be to access your network.

01:25:06.420 So I would knock your devices offline with it.

01:25:08.900 It has the ability to do that, which, you know, it's called a deauthentication attack.

01:25:13.680 And then from there, you capture what's called a handshake.

01:25:16.340 And then I could try to crack your Wi-Fi password from that handshake.

01:25:19.660 Once I have that, now this light bulb is on your network with the rest of your computers.

01:25:24.660 And, you know, from there, I could try to pivot from the bulb onto your computers with your sensitive information and files and, you know, anything.

01:25:33.060 Or I could start to reroute your traffic with, it's called DNS, to phishing pages and try to steal credentials.

01:25:39.640 I mean, this light bulb could be, you know, how a router is connected to the internet?

01:25:44.280 Yes.

01:25:44.640 I could trick your computer into believing that this light bulb is the router.

01:25:48.280 So I have the way I'm routing the internet through the bulb.

01:25:51.780 It can do a lot more than that.

01:25:53.000 I'm just trying to simplify it a little bit.

01:25:54.320 And I can communicate with that light bulb from afar.

01:25:56.940 In this bulb, no, you have to be within Wi-Fi range.

01:26:00.520 Yeah.

01:26:00.680 There are other devices that are implants that you could at a distance with SIM cards or other means.

01:26:06.300 or if they're plugged directly into the back of a computer,

01:26:09.840 you know, like I do have one of those in my bag

01:26:11.740 that you would never know.

01:26:13.060 You would never unplug it

01:26:13.920 because it looks like it's supposed to be there.

01:26:16.380 That one connects, you know, I could be in Guatemala

01:26:18.620 and I could have complete control over that device

01:26:21.280 from Guatemala.

01:26:23.780 Wow. 0.94

01:26:24.480 Yeah, so that's the hacker's nightlight.

01:26:26.800 I thought that was kind of a cool, you know.

01:26:28.200 That is cool.

01:26:28.800 And, you know, think of it like this.

01:26:30.140 Like, this is a real brand.

01:26:31.540 This is not something that he paid to prototype.

01:26:33.800 He hacked the bulb itself.

01:26:35.860 And imagine a company like this

01:26:39.040 either getting hacked, like compromised, 1.00

01:26:41.540 or like a lot of these come from China.

01:26:43.520 So let's say a Chinese company goes rogue,

01:26:47.180 which I don't think is too crazy to think about modern day, 0.99

01:26:50.280 and sends out custom firmware for these bulbs

01:26:53.940 that does something malicious on your home network.

01:26:56.980 What if it gains access to your computer

01:26:58.720 or to your Amazon Alexa or whatever it may be,

01:27:02.760 and now they're listening to you in your house

01:27:04.400 or they're just trying to steal your passwords

01:27:06.600 or doing whatever they're doing.

01:27:07.720 They're collecting data or Intel,

01:27:09.680 which there's so many examples of that.

01:27:12.020 Here's another one.

01:27:15.220 So the same guy just buying smart,

01:27:19.620 they're called Internet of Things

01:27:21.080 or smart home devices straight off the internet.

01:27:23.140 This is just a smart plug that looks,

01:27:26.100 I mean, you can look at it.

01:27:26.800 There's nothing special.

01:27:28.580 What makes it smart?

01:27:30.500 It connects to Alexa and Wi-Fi

01:27:32.440 so you can turn something on or off.

01:27:34.400 It's just a simple gadget that you can buy on Amazon.

01:27:38.740 Okay.

01:27:39.160 And let's say you want...

01:27:40.220 So you plug this in, plug the lamp or whatever into this,

01:27:44.340 and then rather than actually just moving your fingers and turning it off,

01:27:47.640 you tell some chick called Alexa to do it.

01:27:50.520 Yeah, you tell Alexa.

01:27:51.560 You say, hey, turn the lamp on, and she turns the lamp on.

01:27:54.520 That is essentially the same as the light bulb.

01:27:56.580 So that will monitor the network and still work just as it does out of the factory.

01:28:02.260 I don't want to be judgy, but the idea of having Alexa in my house

01:28:05.620 or anything like this in my house is just bizarre to me.

01:28:08.020 Yeah, I understand.

01:28:08.960 Why would you do that?

01:28:10.780 So my personal reason is I can see the traffic going in and out of my house.

01:28:15.720 I know that the microphone has to be listening at all times

01:28:18.820 to listen for the word Alexa.

01:28:21.200 I'm aware of that, but I know that my conversations,

01:28:23.940 unless I say the word Alexa, are not being sent to Amazon server.

01:28:27.080 So I'm personally not scared of it,

01:28:28.840 but I do know that if somebody really wanted to,

01:28:32.260 they could use those devices to listen or see inside my house.

01:28:34.860 That is a fact.

01:28:36.020 Of course.

01:28:36.940 Yeah.

01:28:37.360 Even I know that.

01:28:38.440 Yeah, of course.

01:28:39.260 But I'm okay with the risk there personally,

01:28:42.000 which brings me to a topic that is a little bit more scary.

01:28:44.720 Okay.

01:28:46.320 So, you know, I don't know what your setup is at home

01:28:49.100 with cameras, with your garage door, with your car,

01:28:51.860 you know, if you, you know,

01:28:53.880 but have you ever seen anything like this before?

01:28:58.340 No.

01:28:58.940 So what this device would do

01:29:00.360 and the usage of it is illegal.

01:29:03.200 So if I press that button,

01:29:04.340 we're both committing a federal crime.

01:29:06.020 Not me, man.

01:29:06.700 Yeah, we're not pressing the button today.

01:29:08.020 Okay.

01:29:08.520 Unless you want to,

01:29:09.800 but this is called a jammer.

01:29:12.120 So what this does is it's going to shut down

01:29:14.620 every single cell phone in this entire building,

01:29:17.700 70 meters.

01:29:18.900 It's going to turn off GPS,

01:29:20.680 Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, all of it.

01:29:23.240 It's going to jam all signals that are important,

01:29:25.660 which means your wireless cameras are not going to work.

01:29:28.600 your Bluetooth, you know, microphones, your, your everything. You can't call 911. You have

01:29:34.700 no way unless you have a landline hidden around here somewhere. The alarm system in this place

01:29:38.620 that likely has a cellular connection can't contact. You might hear the alarm going off,

01:29:43.480 but nobody's, nobody's getting a notification that you're being robbed or anything. This device can

01:29:49.060 cause a serious problem in your life, especially with the video cameras and alarms and phones.

01:29:54.720 there is no solution for this problem you know and and it brings me how does that work so what

01:30:02.280 it does is like imagine um like a way to put this into an analogy would be okay we're in a small

01:30:08.540 room right and if i screamed at the top of my lungs and then i told you to tell me a story

01:30:13.880 when i'm screaming if somebody was sitting over there um i'm you know they may not be able to

01:30:20.500 hear your story because i'm screaming that's what this is doing it's screaming at the top

01:30:24.380 of its lungs 70 meters and signals can't, they're just so garbled by the time they make it out of

01:30:29.700 that range that it, that it, you know, the 70 meter range, they don't work. So it just immediately

01:30:35.260 the second I press on that button, everything goes on. What's the cancer risk from being near

01:30:39.640 something like that when it's on? I mean, it definitely puts a ton of EMFs out, but I don't

01:30:44.260 think much more than your average radio. I mean, you're, you're surrounded. I could show you a

01:30:48.320 pretty wild example of that right now without turning anything on. Uh, this is just Bluetooth

01:30:53.420 alone, check this out. 0.75

01:30:57.000 I always show this to people that talk about EMFs

01:30:59.480 because you cannot avoid them.

01:31:03.040 Here, right here.

01:31:06.320 Here, you can just pass it to me.

01:31:09.000 Here's just the, you can scroll down.

01:31:11.700 See the colors there? Scroll down on the colors.

01:31:14.900 They're all the, they're just the Bluetooth devices

01:31:17.360 that are within 30 feet of us.

01:31:20.160 That's just Bluetooth.

01:31:21.040 so you know imagine cellular you got gps wi-fi you got radio you have like you know from cdma gsm

01:31:29.660 4g lte literally all cellular signals are all hitting us so if we got 50 bluetooth devices

01:31:36.540 in this building which you know or more it might have been more than 50 there you're being all

01:31:41.800 these signals are passing through you regardless the ionizing radiation is the ones you should

01:31:46.240 worry about like 5g and being close to a 5g tower i believe that those are dangerous you know

01:31:51.960 especially at long-term exposure um but no matter how protected you are unless you live in the

01:31:57.940 middle of nowhere with you know no signal to anything where you put your house in what's

01:32:02.860 called a faraday cage like you you're getting penetrated by these signals whether you like it

01:32:07.520 or not what if you're sitting on an airplane using wi-fi same exact thing you're even getting

01:32:12.980 ultraviolet because you know the higher you go up the less protection you have in the sky let's get

01:32:18.540 skin cancer yeah exactly exactly so yeah i mean it's something it's almost unavoidable in my

01:32:23.340 opinion so that jammer right there is commercially available yeah so they're illegal to buy they're

01:32:29.840 not illegal to own but they're illegal to use so of course i found this on the highway on my way

01:32:34.020 here yeah but uh if you wanted to buy one illegally where would you buy it china china

01:32:40.260 is the primary place selling them.

01:32:43.440 And a lot of the websites are scammed.

01:32:44.920 So luckily criminals that want to buy them

01:32:46.740 will likely get ripped off.

01:32:48.660 But whoever bought this

01:32:51.020 and left it on the side of the road

01:32:52.620 must have known the right person to buy it from.

01:32:55.280 Does it work?

01:32:56.240 Yeah, it does work.

01:32:57.200 Yeah, it definitely works.

01:32:59.000 And I've used it.

01:33:00.240 I publicly used it.

01:33:01.520 I know that it's a crime,

01:33:02.460 but I've used it in controlled settings.

01:33:05.040 But if I wanted to stage a home invasion,

01:33:07.340 I'd turn that on first.

01:33:09.060 Yeah, and I've shown examples on social media with even smaller versions of this,

01:33:13.600 which I want to show you because it relates to Iran and the drones,

01:33:17.720 and I want to show you something interesting with that.

01:33:19.980 But I showed a device similar to this that disabled my doorbells and disabled everything

01:33:26.160 by just clicking a button because it overwhelms that signal.

01:33:31.360 And when the device doesn't have storage on it itself, like a lot of these new cameras,

01:33:35.180 they rely on the cloud.

01:33:36.640 If they can't connect to the cloud, then the storage, I'm sorry, then the footage never existed.

01:33:42.380 So to repeat that, you know, if you have a cloud-based camera or wireless camera,

01:33:48.440 if it loses connection to the internet or the cloud, the videos are gone.

01:33:53.920 The images are gone.

01:33:55.120 There's no way to ever recover it.

01:33:57.040 So if somebody gets a hold of a jammer or if you just happen to lose internet,

01:34:01.580 you have no cameras anymore.

01:34:02.900 You have no footage.

01:34:03.560 You have no, you know, you have no way to know somebody's approaching your house or

01:34:07.020 were, if you weren't home, that somebody entered your house.

01:34:09.660 It's just as if it didn't happen.

01:34:11.700 So using wired cameras as a solution to that problem.

01:34:15.820 And that goes for, you know, I've shown some examples on the news with hacking garage doors

01:34:20.920 and opening cars and being able to duplicate key fobs and, you know, capturing those signals

01:34:26.180 out of the sky.

01:34:27.720 You know, you would never know that that's happening.

01:34:29.740 So your house, and I could go on a whole thing about safety with your house, but one little

01:34:34.500 advice while it's on my mind is if your house is connected, I'm sorry, if your garage door

01:34:40.400 is connected to your house and there's a door that enters your house from your garage, treat

01:34:45.380 that door like it's your front door.

01:34:47.080 Because I could be standing 100 feet, 200 feet away from your garage.

01:34:50.480 And when you go and click that button in your car to open the door, I can capture the signal

01:34:55.000 for a very large number of the manufacturers

01:34:57.540 and I can forever gain access to your garage door.

01:35:01.240 And I've demonstrated it over and over again

01:35:03.300 in many different places.

01:35:05.460 One of the largest streamers on the internet,

01:35:08.280 Aiden Ross, I hacked his gate same way.

01:35:11.480 I have forever access to Aiden Ross's gate

01:35:14.020 where he's got millions of dollars worth of merchandise,

01:35:16.880 cars, and it's all with a simple gadget.

01:35:20.680 So I want to show you that real quick.

01:35:23.120 sorry i don't want to cut no that's amazing

01:35:26.380 so just imagine um imagine that you're sitting in a walmart parking lot as a criminal you're a

01:35:34.080 criminal and and you're you're sitting in this parking lot so uh i could be using a device like

01:35:40.900 which i'll explain what this is in a second but um this device you could buy it it's not going

01:35:45.060 to do this out of the box this is custom dark web firmware that's bought from russians that

01:35:50.240 you know it's uh you know right now twenty nine hundred dollars i believe we didn't pay for it we

01:35:55.080 like the people that that gave it to me hacked the hacked firmware so it's like a double

01:36:01.320 hack exception but uh i got a hold of it that way and um let me just so grab this key fob

01:36:08.120 and i'll show you if there's battery in this key fob

01:36:13.200 okay three is that how people steal cars uh so you can't steal a car with this but you can get

01:36:22.320 in the back seat of a car with this you could you know okay here we go um you you cannot steal a car

01:36:30.720 with with this you can but you can completely duplicate this key fob so i can pop the trunk i

01:36:35.100 can you know enable the alarm i can lock and unlock it all it takes is me just pressing any

01:36:40.660 button on here it doesn't matter which button so uh can i show you can i come over there yeah

01:36:45.240 so you see how it's it's saying fixed scan it's listening on this frequency here which usually

01:36:55.220 key fobs are going to operate in either 315 megahertz or 433 megahertz um if i have that

01:37:02.360 running at all times in a walmart parking lot like when i hit the lock button let's say this

01:37:06.920 is the lock button every time i hit lock a new one comes up as you see so let's say i save this

01:37:12.440 and if you look here it says kia hyundai which is what this is right here um and then if i just do

01:37:21.360 let's just say the button's not working

01:37:24.800 all right i'll just do zero one

01:37:36.920 there we go so when i hit this so now i don't have the key fob anymore imagine i have 10 people

01:37:49.300 that's walking out of walmart they all click their key fob didn't matter what button they

01:37:52.540 press they could have hit lock unlock whatever so i hit this that's lock unlock see how it says

01:37:59.820 open there trunk and if you see here every single time that i click the button you see that number

01:38:07.900 at the end is changing 155 1 1 f 7 1 6 e 1 c so it's going in sync with the key fob knowing what

01:38:16.000 the next code is going to be and all i need to do now is walk around the parking lot and start

01:38:20.640 hitting the lock and unlock button and look for what car it was so i could you know let's say

01:38:24.840 it's christmas or let's say it's a holiday or let's say i'm a dangerous person i could sit in

01:38:29.180 the back seat of someone's car, wait for them to get in it and make someone's worst fear come true.

01:38:36.140 That's amazing. So, you know, luckily, which I'll explain this over here.

01:38:42.400 Luckily, this is not something that's easy to get your hands on right now.

01:38:46.360 You can buy one of these devices for 170 bucks, but it's not going to be much more than,

01:38:50.980 you know, like something that could turn a TV on or off or like last night in the place that

01:38:55.780 you guys put me in i i hacked the uh the light in there like where i could turn the light on and off

01:39:01.540 and i could you know change the the speed of the fan in the room um you know just just for fun you

01:39:06.980 know i thought as much content as i can get out here i'm gonna do so so you know this device can

01:39:12.060 do that type of stuff that but it isn't going to open a garage door or hack a car like you know

01:39:17.780 like i just showed you here the same method with a garage door is identical to what i just showed

01:39:23.340 with this key fob. So my advice to everyone, including you, Tucker, is if your garage connects

01:39:29.440 to your house, deadbolt that thing like it's your front door, because it just takes a sophisticated

01:39:35.560 enough criminal to jam signals and then open your garage door and enter your house. So I'm sure

01:39:45.760 you're a believer in protecting yourself with firearms. That's the next step. You take technology

01:39:51.500 out and then you have the

01:39:53.460 hands-on and what your other solutions

01:39:55.720 are. Yeah, firearms are the only

01:39:57.540 technology I trust, just being honest.

01:39:59.360 They work well. They're better

01:40:01.460 than 5G. I don't even trust

01:40:03.640 striker fire pistols. I'm a revolver guy.

01:40:06.220 That's how. You can put a revolver

01:40:07.720 right up against somebody. You don't have to worry about that.

01:40:09.820 Well, that's the only distance I would be

01:40:11.540 effective with a revolver because

01:40:12.840 That's why cops used them, right?

01:40:15.540 They did use them, yeah. Then they were

01:40:17.500 talked into the striker fire pistols

01:40:19.620 in the early 90s and accidental shootings

01:40:22.160 just went off the chart and, you know, whatever.

01:40:25.460 I've got a lot of thoughts on ballistics.

01:40:26.880 But yeah, no, but the point is,

01:40:28.940 you know, you don't ever want to be in a position

01:40:31.260 where you have to harm somebody.

01:40:32.460 Of course, I'm opposed to that.

01:40:33.960 But you can trust a revolver,

01:40:35.700 whereas you can't trust a security system.

01:40:38.180 What is that?

01:40:39.200 So this is called a Nyan box. 0.99

01:40:40.680 And this is a, you know, an interesting convention. 0.66

01:40:44.680 So friends of mine,

01:40:46.820 there's this hacking conference in Vegas

01:40:48.720 that happens every year

01:40:49.720 called DEF CON

01:40:50.580 and it's the largest one

01:40:52.380 in the world

01:40:52.860 and 30,000 or so hackers

01:40:55.080 go there

01:40:55.640 from all over the world

01:40:56.780 and they meet with each other.

01:40:59.080 What's the bar scene like

01:41:00.040 at night

01:41:00.400 at the hacker conference?

01:41:01.560 Oh my gosh.

01:41:02.360 You can envision it already.

01:41:04.760 I can't even imagine.

01:41:05.900 Long hair,

01:41:06.240 neck beards.

01:41:07.320 Yeah, totally.

01:41:08.800 Adult acne.

01:41:09.440 It smells bad.

01:41:10.560 Got it.

01:41:11.240 It's exactly what you think it is.

01:41:13.240 And there's furries there.

01:41:14.400 You know what a furry is?

01:41:15.300 No.

01:41:15.740 Furry?

01:41:16.200 A furry.

01:41:16.780 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:17.140 Or furries.

01:41:17.740 You know, I got the Delco accent.

01:41:19.100 Yeah.

01:41:19.360 But yeah, there's furries.

01:41:21.600 You know, there's some normal hackers out there.

01:41:23.860 I like to consider myself a normal one.

01:41:25.880 Maybe I'm not.

01:41:26.900 But then there's some real nut jobs.

01:41:28.880 Dude, you're at the high end of normal.

01:41:30.200 Thank you.

01:41:30.700 Thank you very much, Tucker.

01:41:32.800 Not a furry?

01:41:33.800 No.

01:41:34.360 Okay, good.

01:41:35.820 So I'm at DEF CON and a non-furry comes up to me 0.97

01:41:39.180 and shows me this thing.

01:41:42.060 And he was like, hey, man, take this.

01:41:43.480 It's 3D printed.

01:41:44.260 I don't know if you know what a 3D printer is.

01:41:45.740 Of course.

01:41:46.320 It's this entire thing.

01:41:47.640 even the multiple colors 3d printed i was like super impressed especially with these ears because

01:41:51.900 they're so you know like they feel like well i just broke it but uh this side is strong it was

01:41:57.480 probably already broken whatever the case is it's strong 3d printed i was like wow that's impressive

01:42:01.760 that's what i said to the guy um and then uh you know i i didn't really know what he was giving me

01:42:08.180 i just put it around my neck because it came on a you know on a lanyard and i turn it on later on

01:42:12.800 And I see it's got all these crazy features.

01:42:15.780 And I'll show you.

01:42:16.800 So I'll read some of them so it makes sense to you.

01:42:19.200 So it's Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and other.

01:42:21.780 And I started to go through it.

01:42:23.360 I'm like, wow, these guys thought of like everything.

01:42:28.260 One second.

01:42:28.980 What does it do?

01:42:29.960 So I'm going to show you.

01:42:31.080 It does a lot.

01:42:32.160 And it's jam-packed into this tiny device

01:42:35.120 that they put a couple different devices inside of

01:42:37.380 and then 3D printed around it.

01:42:39.600 So it's got a drone detector, a drone spoofer, Flock camera.

01:42:44.020 Are you familiar with Flock?

01:42:44.980 No.

01:42:45.760 Flock are these cameras that are the United States.

01:42:48.800 It's a private company.

01:42:49.760 It's working with law enforcement.

01:42:51.220 Oh, of course.

01:42:52.080 Yeah.

01:42:52.340 And they're taking people's license plates and they're storing this data that is invading,

01:42:58.280 in my opinion, on everybody's privacy.

01:43:00.280 So this is detecting Flock cameras and Flock devices.

01:43:04.220 There's a device scout option on here.

01:43:06.360 that means it can track to see what devices

01:43:08.140 could potentially be following or tracking you.

01:43:11.000 So like if somebody was through a device in your car,

01:43:14.360 this could tell you that that's happening

01:43:17.420 without you having to physically find it

01:43:19.740 because things can only track you in certain ways,

01:43:22.480 whether it be cellular, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi,

01:43:24.980 or some type of EMFs are going to be coming off of that device.

01:43:29.000 In this case, it's going to be looking for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.

01:43:32.300 But what I think you'd be most interested in here

01:43:34.820 is it can jam, so it can do the video cameras,

01:43:38.800 remote control cars, you know,

01:43:41.340 any type of signal, Wi-Fi,

01:43:43.700 but not as effective as that giant one I just pulled out.

01:43:47.180 The drone detector and drone spoofer

01:43:49.460 is something that I think is kind of interesting

01:43:51.460 because this is a consumer device.

01:43:53.640 You could buy this from them.

01:43:54.840 They're willing to sell it to you on their website.

01:43:59.100 And the first thought you probably are having

01:44:00.840 is why would they sell a device that can do these things?

01:44:03.800 you know why because it can cause damage you know it even has a body cam detector for axiom

01:44:08.280 that the brand police use for body cams like why would somebody need something like this

01:44:13.060 um and uh you know the answer to it is penetration testing goes good and bad you know like there's

01:44:19.700 like we have a company that people hire us to pretend like we are the hackers we find all the

01:44:25.160 vulnerabilities before an actual attacker does so that you can fix them the point of this device is

01:44:30.260 essentially the same thing. You're treating it, you know, you're treating the engagement as if

01:44:36.860 it's a real one. So with the drone spoofer, for example, which I want to explain to you about this

01:44:43.020 stuff because it's kind of wild. The drone spoofer, a counter UAS company reaches out to them. I don't

01:44:49.040 know the name of the company, but I could find out for you. A counter UAS company that is working

01:44:54.540 overseas, asked for them to use one of these for drone spoofing. So counter UAS just means

01:45:02.080 unmanned aircraft system. And when a bunch of drones are incoming, the goal is to know that

01:45:08.800 that's about to happen. If you're using a device even as small as this, it overwhelmed their

01:45:15.360 current system to the point where they couldn't determine whether it was real or fake drones.

01:45:19.620 and it would be a you know not a good thing but a great way to divert military because they're

01:45:26.440 going to think we have a thousand drones coming from the north and here's the statuses of them

01:45:30.660 one's damaged one's you know landing one's going this you know 20 miles an hour this one's going

01:45:35.480 five miles an hour this one's you know you can change the statuses and make it appear like these

01:45:40.140 drones are doing all of these things because of this technology that exists um it's called uh

01:45:45.760 remote ID. And remote ID came into effect in 2024 in consumer drones. And it required that

01:45:53.940 every single drone that's purchased, you know, obviously the government drones could differ,

01:46:00.260 but any drones purchased at March, I believe, of 2024 has to transmit the position of where

01:46:07.340 the person is standing, the position of the drone, the speed, the altitude, and the serial

01:46:13.400 number of the drone, which then could give you the name

01:46:15.600 of the person that registered the drone in the first

01:46:17.520 place. This device

01:46:19.460 can determine that with any

01:46:21.420 drone that's flying around you. So if you have some

01:46:23.380 guy flying around in your backyard with a drone,

01:46:25.920 you could go show up at his house because you

01:46:27.400 know exactly where he's standing and you can get his name

01:46:29.500 if he registered it.

01:46:31.440 And then, as I said, for the spoofing

01:46:33.340 side of things, that could get really dangerous.

01:46:35.740 What does that mean, spoofing?

01:46:37.120 It creates the impression of something that's not

01:46:39.420 actually there? Exactly. So on their

01:46:41.440 UAS, on their screen,

01:46:43.400 where it would look like their counter UIS system,

01:46:46.420 where it would look kind of like a radar with dots.

01:46:49.320 Just imagine it being overwhelmed with dots.

01:46:52.680 And then they don't know if it's real or not real.

01:46:55.380 They get geared up as if it is real.

01:46:57.260 And then drones come in from a different angle

01:46:58.840 that are not detectable at all.

01:47:01.100 So it's very dangerous.

01:47:03.340 And I don't know what the solution to the problem is

01:47:05.680 because there's companies like Andrel out there

01:47:08.060 that are flying drones in with fiber optic

01:47:09.980 and optic cables that don't even need radio.

01:47:12.540 They have local AI on them that is making decisions on what parts of tanks to hit to

01:47:20.540 weaken them and has already been hit by this one or the drones work together.

01:47:26.200 So I don't know exactly what the solution to this problem is, but I do believe that

01:47:31.780 knowing that it exists and researching some of this technology, especially for our country,

01:47:37.460 is important because drones, it's not like these are a new thing.

01:47:40.600 They were called quadcopters when I was a kid, and they were hobbyists.

01:47:44.280 They were a fun thing to do.

01:47:46.000 And then as time went on, people started to weaponize them, and now they're part of war.

01:47:50.620 And something as simple as a 3D-printed box given at a hacking convention can cause a big problem in the military.

01:47:57.140 Well, yeah, and they're not just part of war.

01:47:59.060 They are war.

01:48:00.180 We're watching it today.

01:48:01.520 What's that device right there?

01:48:02.800 It looks like a transistor radio.

01:48:04.240 So this pretty much is.

01:48:05.600 partially what it is, it's a

01:48:07.860 HackRF, which is just a

01:48:09.560 it does a ton of things

01:48:11.480 radio related only

01:48:13.160 which, you know, well not just

01:48:15.860 radio, I guess also some other

01:48:17.760 bands because it's, without

01:48:19.740 going into a whole radio nerd conversation

01:48:21.740 it's from

01:48:23.100 1 megahertz to 6 gigahertz

01:48:25.660 and I don't know if you know how big of a range that is, but it's

01:48:27.720 huge. It's like the only

01:48:29.640 device that I'm aware of that can do anything like

01:48:31.660 that, but if you look in the

01:48:33.540 receive, you'll see, I can look for airplanes, boats. Um, I can even access the intercoms in

01:48:39.360 a CVS and Walgreens and like that, that thing is pretty, pretty wild. Um, I could, over some of the

01:48:45.920 older, uh, loudspeakers at fast food restaurants, I can talk to talk, talk through them and listen

01:48:51.180 to them, you know, in the bars, touch tunes. So this, to summarize, gives you a readout of all

01:48:57.940 the radio signals around you uh well yeah so it's going to receive or transmit so you could you can

01:49:04.100 either receive everything around you or transmit at a very large range and that is pre-programmed

01:49:10.940 with some third-party firmware it's called the h4m or uh or um the mayhem firmware it allows you to

01:49:18.600 do some wild things like harmless for example you're at a bar and you see the touch tunes machine

01:49:23.900 that people pay to play music on,

01:49:25.440 that thing can take over the touch tunes,

01:49:28.220 add credits to it, turn it off,

01:49:30.060 change the volume, change the song.

01:49:32.800 You know, just easy, simple things.

01:49:34.640 Or it could be more malicious where, like I said,

01:49:37.100 hacking a garage door or a car.

01:49:40.040 So I just want to end on a philosophical question for you.

01:49:44.740 Sure.

01:49:45.480 So you've just spent two hours describing

01:49:47.720 like the darkest sides of consumer technology,

01:49:52.380 internet garage doors.

01:49:53.900 And I know that all of that technology has brought, I guess, at least theoretically brought great benefits to humanity, whatever.

01:50:02.740 You don't have to lift up your own garage door.

01:50:04.800 I have manual garage doors for whatever it's worth.

01:50:06.880 Do you really?

01:50:07.440 Yes, I do.

01:50:07.940 Wow.

01:50:08.600 You're the first one I've ever met.

01:50:10.040 Really?

01:50:10.360 That's great.

01:50:10.840 I'm glad.

01:50:11.540 Yeah, I do.

01:50:12.080 Yeah, lock them.

01:50:13.480 Yeah.

01:50:15.700 Or just live in a place with no crime.

01:50:17.320 That's true.

01:50:17.700 My solution.

01:50:18.940 But all of that, you know, I can see the upsides to all of that stuff.

01:50:23.460 But all of those consumer technology products have introduced massive vulnerabilities and control methods.

01:50:35.260 They made us less free also.

01:50:36.960 Agreed.

01:50:37.780 And why didn't anyone mention that along the way?

01:50:42.480 I remember when they were trying to sell us on the dishwasher you can control with your iPhone.

01:50:48.400 Of course.

01:50:49.120 And I was like, I'm happy to do it by hand.

01:50:52.080 Yeah, I agree with that for sure.

01:50:53.960 Yeah, the Internet of Things.

01:50:55.960 In the end, are we going to look back on this period

01:50:58.800 and think we were being softened up

01:51:01.760 to surrender human autonomy to the machine?

01:51:05.500 I think it's going to be worse than that because of AI.

01:51:07.920 Yeah, I think because of AI

01:51:08.980 and we're trying to get artificial general intelligence

01:51:11.960 where AI has consciousness.

01:51:13.820 And if we do achieve that state at any point.

01:51:16.300 But my question is,

01:51:17.340 Like, how vulnerable is the average homeowner living as he does, surrounded by all these electronic devices that ultimately he doesn't have any control over, but somebody else does?

01:51:31.860 Like, it seems like we put ourselves in quite a spot.

01:51:34.260 So, yeah, we do.

01:51:35.800 And there are some modern solutions for modern problems, you know, and the more advanced...

01:51:40.320 Because I see the jammer and I just want to set that off in my living room just to, like, stop it all.

01:51:43.860 Yeah, I'll buy one and secretly use it.

01:51:46.140 against myself yeah there you go yeah it's a it's a good way to make sure you're not getting

01:51:50.940 anything in or out yeah but um you know same with these faraday bags but like it stops it so your

01:51:55.800 phone can't get or receive text like let's say you're going to a country or in your meeting or

01:51:59.800 something and you don't want anything to go in or out like you can just bring something like this

01:52:04.440 like like without giving their company oh i have a million of them yeah okay i don't know what they

01:52:09.000 i don't use them anymore well because i think it's useless and i think my phone's already

01:52:13.460 controlled so it's like well you've been hacked you know you many times but to avoid being hacked

01:52:18.520 there's things you can do and yeah and one thing that in my experience because i do it every day

01:52:23.780 for a living is know what's out there on yourself know what your digital footprint is check out

01:52:28.980 pen tester sorry for being that guy but check out pen tester because it's worth it throw in your

01:52:34.500 email like you know see what comes back um spend spend a couple dollars to make sure that you're

01:52:40.940 protected remove as much personal data about yourself as possible so you don't have to worry

01:52:45.900 about somebody being able to find your address or find your information online and uh and then take

01:52:51.160 some of the stuff that i'm showing you these devices as of right now criminals are not you

01:52:56.260 know super sophisticated but these younger kids they're growing up around computers and they're

01:53:00.660 going to learn about this technology and and this technology is only going to advance just continue

01:53:05.900 to keep yourself in the loop and don't, don't just be stagnant and think that this is never

01:53:11.040 going to happen to you. Um, it doesn't mean that it will, but don't be naive, you know?

01:53:15.200 Is there any device, electronic device that you would not bring inside your home?

01:53:19.440 I mean, I would, I, I would personally, even if I didn't like the device, I would put it on what's

01:53:24.020 called a virtual LAN or similar to like a guest network, how it's like kind of segregated,

01:53:28.100 separated. Um, you know, I, I, I'm not super concerned about it. I even have like a vacuum

01:53:34.720 in my house right now that I know is sending data to a Chinese cloud server. I made a video

01:53:38.840 about it and it went insane because, you know, it's China, a cloud server, people like that

01:53:43.180 for whatever reason on the internet. And I still have the thing plugged in. I mean,

01:53:46.840 I'm not worried about it because it's segregated on my network. And even if the thing goes rogue,

01:53:51.180 which it may, it can't access anything else because it's digitally locked in its little sandbox.

01:53:58.620 So you're not afraid that at one point the CCP is going to order it to vacuum you?

01:54:03.680 Yeah, I might get my baby pinky toe or something,

01:54:06.820 but that's about as bad as it can be.

01:54:08.320 So there's no device that you would be personally afraid

01:54:10.660 of having in your home?

01:54:12.700 Maybe your cell phone.

01:54:14.240 Yeah, I don't think you want my cell phone in your house.

01:54:15.800 No, I don't want that one in there.

01:54:19.460 Literally.

01:54:20.400 Ryan, thank you for all of this.

01:54:21.900 I'm going to be thinking about it for the next week

01:54:24.580 every second I wake up in the morning.

01:54:26.220 That was really dark.

01:54:27.160 I hope somebody does something about those groups.

01:54:30.600 I am sorry.

01:54:31.140 and I'm working as hard

01:54:32.360 as I possibly can

01:54:33.280 to do that

01:54:33.900 and I appreciate you

01:54:35.100 letting me share that message

01:54:36.320 on your platform

01:54:37.000 because it means the world to me

01:54:38.440 more than

01:54:38.980 I can even put in words

01:54:40.180 thank you

01:54:40.700 thank you for doing this

01:54:41.620 thank you

The Tucker Carlson Show - May 25, 2026

‘The Ethical Hacker’ Exposes Satanic Child Predators Lurking Online & How He Hunts Them

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