The Tucker Carlson Show - The Murder That Exposed the Godless System Replacing Christianity & Why You’re Not Allowed to Notice

00:00:00.440 On December 3rd of last year in Southampton, England, there was a murder that has come to trial.

00:00:08.420 It was a conviction just the other day, and it's in the headlines in the UK.

00:00:13.140 Typically, it wouldn't be worth spending a ton of time on a single killing in a foreign country,

00:00:17.820 but this one tells you so much, not just about modern-day Britain,

00:00:22.040 but about the West and the attitudes that have brought us to where we are now

00:00:26.000 in the 80 years since the end of the Second World War.

00:00:28.760 that it's worth recounting in some detail.

00:00:32.000 So on the night of December 3rd, 2025,

00:00:35.020 a man called Henry Nowak,

00:00:36.720 he's an 18-year-old university student,

00:00:38.860 was walking back from a bar.

00:00:40.780 He was totally sober.

00:00:42.100 Blood tests later showed that his blood alcohol content

00:00:44.960 was lower than drunk driving.

00:00:48.960 So he was sober.

00:00:51.060 Walking in the other direction

00:00:52.620 was a man called Victram Digwa.

00:00:56.760 This 23-year-old Brit, a Sikh, his family's from India, walking with his brother.

00:01:02.680 Now, there was no apparent confrontation between the two.

00:01:07.040 Nowak filmed him on his iPhone for a second.

00:01:10.460 We've seen that tape.

00:01:12.000 And then, almost out of nowhere, Digwa pulls out an eight-inch-long knife and begins stabbing Henry Nowak, the 18-year-old college student, and ultimately kills him.

00:01:24.480 stabbed him five times, including in the chest and the heart.

00:01:28.780 Now, it's worth noting that knife crime in England is famously on the rise.

00:01:33.440 In fact, to such an extent that knives are difficult for ordinary people to buy in London.

00:01:38.340 Try to buy a set of kitchen knives next time you're over there.

00:01:41.340 Not so easy.

00:01:42.140 You can do it, but it's heavily regulated.

00:01:45.260 British citizens are not allowed to carry eight-inch-long knives.

00:01:49.240 White British citizens are not allowed to.

00:01:51.360 But Sikhs are.

00:01:54.480 because under British law, carrying a knife is allowed because of the Sikh religious exemption.

00:02:01.940 Sikhs have argued in court and their lobby groups have argued that they should be allowed to carry

00:02:05.500 knives, and so they can't. So again, in modern Britain, whites are not allowed to carry weapons,

00:02:12.060 Sikhs are. And in this case, a Sikh used his legal weapon to murder a young white man.

00:02:18.700 what happened next is really the most interesting so vikram and his brother realized that henry

00:02:27.060 nowak is badly injured and so his brother suggests why don't we call the police and claim racism and

00:02:34.040 so that's exactly what his brother did we have the call the actual call here's what his brother told

00:02:40.040 police dispatch the night of december 3rd we just got attacked racially by some white person

00:02:44.760 right okay whereabouts are you uh we're on uh belmont road just out in the street are you

00:02:51.920 sorry you're just in the street uh yeah literally i just parked on my car to come home

00:02:57.960 and he attacked my brother now it's not clear how long this man has been in the uk he may have been

00:03:02.920 born there from his accent it sounds like he was but he's from a family of immigrants but he's been

00:03:06.500 there long enough to know that in the west in 2026 racism is the ultimate crime in fact it's

00:03:12.580 literally worse than murder. And so he tells police dispatch, this man, this white man,

00:03:18.480 this random white man, as he describes him, just walked up, started hurling racial abuse at him,

00:03:24.240 knocked his turban off his head and punched him. And the police take that very, very seriously.

00:03:29.580 So they sped to the scene. Meanwhile, the murderer's mother also came to the scene.

00:03:34.700 She arrived before the police did, and she took the murder weapon and hit it. She brought it home

00:03:38.920 with her and didn't tell anybody that she had it. In other words, she participated in the cover-up.

00:03:43.900 Now, the police arrived fairly quickly to find Henry Nowak bleeding and unable to stand on his

00:03:50.900 own. He said to them a total of eight times, I have been stabbed. I'm dying. I can't breathe.

00:03:57.560 He yelled it so loud that neighbors heard it. In fact, some of them called the police to say

00:04:03.140 there's a man who's been stabbed and is dying. Nevertheless, police treated Henry Nowak,

00:04:10.160 the dying man who was bleeding out in their presence, like the criminal because he had been

00:04:14.980 accused of racism. So they handcuffed him. They dragged him through the grapple. They ignored

00:04:20.480 his plea for help. I'm dying. Doesn't look like that, like you're dying. I've been stabbed.

00:04:29.920 Don't think so, mate, says the cop.

00:04:32.280 And we're not guessing about any of this

00:04:33.760 because we have the body cam footage.

00:04:37.200 Here it is.

00:04:38.180 I've got a man full of blood.

00:04:39.060 I don't want him.

00:04:39.700 I can't break.

00:04:40.400 He was on the bin on the other side of this.

00:04:42.200 He's jumped over these fences and stuff like that.

00:04:45.160 And he's up here.

00:04:46.060 Stay away, mate.

00:04:46.820 He's obviously, he's fallen from there and he slipped from there.

00:04:49.620 There's other shoes left over there, mate.

00:04:51.340 What's your name, mate?

00:04:52.960 Huh?

00:04:56.160 Has anyone been hurt other than him?

00:04:58.140 Yeah, me.

00:04:58.500 He's around my brother.

00:04:59.920 took my turban off so I grabbed on my head. Are you injured? Yeah, yeah I've got swollen eyes.

00:05:05.040 Alright, just step back a little bit for me. Someone flag these down. What's happened to you, right?

00:05:10.160 I've been stabbed. You've been stabbed? Whereabouts? I don't think you have, mate.

00:05:23.040 Hand? Put the hand in the cuff, mate.

00:05:29.920 Keep you on your side mate, you've had a red reef then, same to him, keeping him on his

00:05:45.320 side. We were sat up when we had him here but he didn't like it. What's your name mate?

00:05:51.800 By the moment you are under arrest and that's for assault so you do not have to say anything

00:05:56.800 So there's Henry Nowak bleeding out.

00:06:04.900 Those were his final moments, drowning in his own blood, being arrested for racism.

00:06:10.420 Now, keep in mind, the police did no investigation whatsoever.

00:06:15.140 They arrived on the scene.

00:06:16.800 There was a non-white man claiming racism.

00:06:18.880 There was a white man claiming he'd been stabbed.

00:06:20.800 But they took only one claim seriously, and they arrested the man who'd been accused of racism.

00:06:25.260 If that looks familiar, it should, because that is a standard not simply in the UK, but in Australia, in Canada, in much of Europe, and in the United States.

00:06:34.640 Racism is regarded as a more grave crime than murder.

00:06:39.740 Now, no one will say that, and statues don't reflect that, but in effect, that is true.

00:06:46.460 Being called a racist

00:06:48.200 entitles you to being treated well

00:06:50.740 like Henry Nowak was,

00:06:51.700 like an animal,

00:06:52.700 dragged in your final moments on earth

00:06:54.560 in handcuffs through the gravel

00:06:56.320 until you die.

00:06:58.180 The police don't even consider checking

00:07:00.100 to see if he's actually been stabbed.

00:07:02.500 And again, he had been five times.

00:07:05.380 So if that enrages you

00:07:07.260 to see that video,

00:07:08.480 because of course it's a refutation

00:07:09.840 of the core claim of the West,

00:07:11.440 which is equal justice,

00:07:12.900 each person is as valuable

00:07:15.380 as every other person.

00:07:17.100 That's the basis upon which

00:07:18.400 our societies were founded.

00:07:21.080 Actually, that was the justification

00:07:22.100 for importing a brand new population.

00:07:24.840 We're all the same.

00:07:26.500 But in effect, it's turned out

00:07:27.920 just the opposite.

00:07:30.600 White lives in the UK

00:07:32.100 are worth less

00:07:34.100 than the lives of so-called minorities.

00:07:38.340 And this is visible

00:07:39.680 throughout the society,

00:07:40.920 theirs and ours.

00:07:42.700 And anyone who says it out loud

00:07:44.200 is, in fact, the criminal.

00:07:46.040 And if you look at the coverage

00:07:47.200 of Henry Nowak's murder,

00:07:49.020 you will find much of it

00:07:51.000 very recognizable.

00:07:52.540 CBS denounced anyone

00:07:53.820 who complained about his killing

00:07:55.800 as, quote, far right.

00:07:57.920 They're trying to make

00:07:58.780 far right points.

00:07:59.920 They're Nazis.

00:08:00.660 Only Nazis would care

00:08:02.020 about the death of Henry Nowak.

00:08:04.240 But, of course,

00:08:04.940 he's not the only one.

00:08:06.620 He's not the only white Briton

00:08:08.600 who's been stabbed to death

00:08:09.880 by an immigrant.

00:08:10.680 Of course, there are many.

00:08:11.560 but big picture it's not simply the stabbings there has been for 80 years a policy in britain

00:08:21.860 to make it very clear to people who were born there that they're not welcome in their own

00:08:27.680 country at the end of the second world war britain was 99.9 percent white 99.9 percent white as of

00:08:37.320 this year, half of all births in Britain are non-white. And so in that short period,

00:08:43.960 a couple of generations since the end of the Second World War, the population is completely

00:08:48.800 turned over. Brand new people. And on what justification, you ask? Well, that's not clear.

00:08:55.040 It's a little strange to be on the hunt for Nazis in a country that fought the Nazis.

00:09:00.660 The Brits famously gave up a lot, including their empire and their effort to beat Nazi Germany.

00:09:07.320 So did the United States.

00:09:09.840 And yet in both countries that sent millions of men to fight the Nazis,

00:09:15.780 there is an ongoing hunt for Nazis,

00:09:19.300 which is to say the unearned blood guilt of the Nazi crimes

00:09:26.500 is being imputed to people who fought the Nazis.

00:09:31.040 That's very, very odd.

00:09:32.800 And it shows in every metric, every measurement, in employment, in life expectancy, in nutrition.

00:09:45.460 In the last couple of years, white Americans are the leading group to die of malnutrition-related illnesses.

00:09:52.860 White Americans.

00:09:53.420 And at the same time, that very group is lectured as privileged, as having unearned advantage because of their skin color.

00:10:02.800 There's an entire academic discipline devoted to attacking white people on the basis of the fact, the supposed fact, that they have unearned privilege.

00:10:14.220 And yet, of course, the opposite is true.

00:10:15.860 They are dying.

00:10:17.140 The leading cause for young white Britons is suicide.

00:10:21.800 The unemployment rate among white Britons is astronomical.

00:10:27.600 In the last five years of new jobs created in Britain for young people, British firms hired one white Briton for every 27 foreigners.

00:10:43.380 And those statistics aren't so different in the United States.

00:10:47.300 90% between 2020 and 2025 of all new jobs created in the United States went to foreigners.

00:10:56.300 90%.

00:10:57.600 is that an accident? Could it be that recent arrivals from Punjab and Lagos are just that

00:11:03.900 much more impressive than the products of the fabled American education system? Probably not.

00:11:10.680 It's almost like it's intentional. And of course, it is intentional because it sends a message.

00:11:16.720 Don't get too comfortable in your own country. Don't assume that you have rights because you

00:11:20.820 were born here. Don't take pride in anything your ancestors built. Stay on edge. Now, what

00:11:27.540 would be the motive of people sending that message to the indigenous population of a country? This

00:11:32.960 isn't yours. It belongs to people you've never met. That is the message. We can only guess at

00:11:39.220 the motive, but we can say that throughout Europe and throughout the Anglosphere, that is the message

00:11:45.680 from our superiors. And so you have to ask yourself, why are we putting up with this?

00:11:53.860 Because it's not enough just to look at the stats and say, oh, the people whose ancestors built this country are failing, are held to a different standard of justice, aren't allowed to arm themselves while new arrivals are, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, are disadvantaged in job seeking and admissions to college and federal grants.

00:12:12.060 all true. But you also have to remember that that group of people is not only put at a grave

00:12:21.100 disadvantage because of their ethnicity, the greatest systemic racism ever practiced in the

00:12:27.060 West is being practiced against the people who built the West, all true. They're also being

00:12:32.320 browbeaten and lectured and finger-wagged into silence, which is to say it's not enough to hurt

00:12:39.020 people, you have to humiliate them as well. The only crime, the only real crime in any of these

00:12:48.920 countries, and the United States would be among them, is complaining about what they seem to be

00:12:56.260 doing to you and noting the obvious. So London, second biggest city in Europe after Moscow,

00:13:03.660 a beautiful city, and in many ways, I have to be honest, still probably a little nicer than the

00:13:08.900 biggest city in our country, New York, but still much reduced in quality of life from

00:13:14.320 40 years ago and dramatically in decline as compared to 100 years ago.

00:13:22.580 Anyone who notes that London is not as nice as it once was is the crime, is the criminal.

00:13:30.740 Here's Sadiq Khan, the longtime mayor of London, often referred to in the United States as a

00:13:35.620 as a radical Muslim, who's nothing of the sort.

00:13:39.260 He's just a conventional white liberal with an Islamic-sounding name.

00:13:42.820 But here's Sadiq Khan explaining why people would criticize London on social media.

00:13:48.800 Most people's experience of London is very different to the version you see on social media.

00:13:54.400 And there's a reason for that.

00:13:56.100 We've done some research and looked into what's going on here.

00:13:59.260 Basically, you've got a combination of people using the algorithms on social media that monetize negativity and hatred, but also a combination of state actors, whether it's China, Russia, or MAGA influences, being unhappy that a city that is progressive, liberal, diverse is incredibly successful.

00:14:22.100 I mean, we are the antidote, the antithesis of nativist populist movement.

00:14:27.620 So don't be surprised if you've got people on social media

00:14:31.360 spreading misinformation, disinformation, and lies.

00:14:37.400 It's the Russians.

00:14:39.060 They're the ones telling you London's not as nice as it used to be.

00:14:42.380 Because honestly, the one thing we know about London

00:14:44.880 is diversity is its greatest strength.

00:14:48.020 Now, you're not invited to assess that for yourself.

00:14:52.680 You're not invited to ask for evidence that that's true.

00:14:56.460 Because in fact, it's not a political slogan.

00:14:59.480 It's a religious precept.

00:15:00.940 It's the one thing we know that diversity is our strength.

00:15:04.620 Now, if it turns out the diversity is not our strength,

00:15:06.860 we can't admit it because that would be apostasy.

00:15:10.600 So we have to keep chanting it again and again and again.

00:15:13.680 And you almost, as you listen to Sadiq Khan, wave away any criticism of the city that he's so gravely mismanaged for so long as state actors spreading disinformation and lies, which are not the same thing, by the way.

00:15:29.140 Disinformation is information that we don't want to hear.

00:15:31.820 Lies are things that are untrue.

00:15:33.740 It's disinformation that he's concerned about.

00:15:35.920 But as you hear him lay all that at the feet of Putin or China or MAGA influencers, you suspect that maybe he's starting to believe it.

00:15:46.760 That he won't allow into his own head what is obvious to everybody else, which is this experiment has failed.

00:15:52.800 This is not working on any level for anybody except the people in charge.

00:15:57.740 Another way to put it is if the relationship between the citizen and the state is a contract, a social contract.

00:16:05.920 Only the citizen is keeping up his side.

00:16:08.940 So the citizen gives up some rights

00:16:11.320 and quite a bit of money

00:16:13.400 in exchange for what?

00:16:16.980 Security and services.

00:16:18.480 He wants to live in a decent place.

00:16:20.220 He wants his children to get a decent education.

00:16:22.620 He wants non-embarrassing infrastructure.

00:16:25.040 He doesn't want to get stabbed to death

00:16:26.140 on the way back from the bar.

00:16:27.380 That's what the citizen wants.

00:16:28.880 He doesn't want the neighborhood that he lives in

00:16:30.300 to change in 20 years

00:16:31.800 with new people who he doesn't know

00:16:34.700 and didn't ask in.

00:16:37.500 He wants some control over his life

00:16:39.380 and he wants the state to provide some measure,

00:16:42.900 some basic measure of security and services.

00:16:46.080 And the state no longer does that.

00:16:48.680 There are so-called developing countries,

00:16:51.700 many of them around the world

00:16:53.440 that have superior infrastructure

00:16:54.660 to Britain and the United States.

00:16:56.480 Many of them.

00:16:57.700 They're not richer countries.

00:16:59.540 They're just countries in which the leadership class

00:17:01.240 takes its own vows a little bit more seriously than ours.

00:17:06.360 Oh, well, in exchange for getting a private plane

00:17:08.520 and the long title and the medals on my chest,

00:17:11.820 I have to provide basic services.

00:17:13.420 And by the way, we can't have stabbings

00:17:14.740 in the middle of our capital city.

00:17:16.360 And so they do that as leaders have always done.

00:17:19.300 But this leadership class in the West

00:17:21.760 has stopped even trying to do that

00:17:24.820 and has instead replaced its duty

00:17:29.260 with hatred toward the people it has failed.

00:17:32.260 And that's very obvious.

00:17:35.120 And it's hard to see that really

00:17:36.820 if you live in the United States.

00:17:38.540 And that's one of the reasons

00:17:39.780 we wanted to show you what's happening in Britain

00:17:41.280 because the distance makes it easier to understand.

00:17:44.400 But if you look at our country,

00:17:46.400 you have to ask yourself,

00:17:47.520 is it really so different?

00:17:49.920 We spent a year talking about George Floyd,

00:17:54.040 pretending that he was murdered by a cop in Minneapolis

00:17:56.580 when it was very obvious from the second day

00:17:58.600 that he had OD'd on opioids.

00:18:01.220 Poor man, not making fun of him.

00:18:03.700 But that's just a fact.

00:18:04.580 He was not strangled to death

00:18:06.340 by a white cop.

00:18:07.600 The whole thing was fake.

00:18:09.760 And we spent a year

00:18:10.940 talking about that

00:18:11.860 and nodding solemnly

00:18:13.580 and excusing the riots that followed

00:18:16.320 and the murder of innocents

00:18:17.440 that followed.

00:18:19.240 Holding the rioters

00:18:21.160 to a different and lower standard

00:18:23.360 of public behavior,

00:18:24.220 they were exempt from COVID laws.

00:18:25.240 Do you remember that?

00:18:26.740 Meanwhile,

00:18:27.180 Meanwhile, is the problem in the United States, and we do have numbers on this, really that white cops are killing people of color?

00:18:35.160 No.

00:18:37.320 That's not the problem that we have.

00:18:39.080 In fact, it's almost exactly the opposite of the problem we have.

00:18:41.560 And everybody knows it.

00:18:42.700 And you can look it up if it's still on the DOJ website because they do keep stats on this.

00:18:48.420 So why lie to us?

00:18:50.280 Well, in order to humiliate and degrade and dispirit us, that's why.

00:18:54.880 and it's hard even to know that that's going on because it's so omnipresent if you heard about a

00:19:01.900 country let's just say poland under the soviet occupation of 1971 and you were told that in

00:19:11.660 soviet occupied poland there was no privacy whatsoever there was not one place you could go

00:19:18.800 where you were not surveilled by your government.

00:19:22.900 Even in your own bedroom, people were listening to you.

00:19:26.400 Even when you got in your car, your sanctuary,

00:19:29.680 a machine began to lecture you,

00:19:31.860 hector you like a neurotic girlfriend

00:19:33.600 about wearing your seatbelt, slow down.

00:19:35.900 And if you didn't,

00:19:37.480 the vehicle would take control away from you,

00:19:40.720 exert autonomy and strip you of yours

00:19:43.440 and just act in the way it decided best.

00:19:48.800 You would have no privacy, and you would have no autonomy.

00:19:54.800 If you heard about a place like that, you would say, well, that's the definition of totalitarian.

00:19:59.380 But you would be describing America right now, before AI.

00:20:06.320 So it takes a little bit of mental effort to get perspective on the world you live in,

00:20:13.400 and how far from the promise it is, and how much it has changed.

00:20:17.260 how totally unacceptable it is,

00:20:20.860 how totally contrary to human thriving it is.

00:20:25.140 It's no surprise, given those facts and many more like them,

00:20:30.140 that SSRI usage is beyond belief.

00:20:33.560 The suicide rate is unacceptable.

00:20:37.020 People are miserable under our current system.

00:20:40.440 That system is called liberal democracy.

00:20:43.040 There are very few Americans who don't support liberal democracy.

00:20:47.260 including me.

00:20:48.440 I support liberal democracy.

00:20:49.780 It's our birthright,

00:20:50.680 liberal democracy.

00:20:51.780 It's the greatest thing we have.

00:20:54.120 Liberal meaning

00:20:54.800 respecting of human rights,

00:20:56.880 the rights with which we were born.

00:20:59.120 And democracy meaning

00:21:00.100 we own the system

00:21:01.340 and we put our representatives

00:21:03.380 in office by voting for them.

00:21:04.700 We're in control.

00:21:05.780 We're the shareholders here.

00:21:07.900 Liberal democracy.

00:21:10.720 But the truth is

00:21:11.940 our democracy is neither liberal

00:21:14.780 nor democratic.

00:21:16.740 It doesn't represent people, and it doesn't acknowledge fundamental human rights.

00:21:21.100 It bulldozes them.

00:21:23.160 And everybody on some level knows this, which is to say it can't continue because nobody

00:21:30.720 believes in it anymore.

00:21:33.220 Some of us are hoping for a peaceful resolution to this crisis, but it is a crisis.

00:21:37.700 When the government begins to actively harm the people it supposedly serves, it's reached the end.

00:21:47.820 I mean, it may take a while to end, but it will end.

00:21:52.580 Because that doesn't make any sense.

00:21:54.420 It's intolerable.

00:21:56.380 It would take a lot of technology to force people to obey a system like that.

00:22:01.740 And even then, it couldn't go on forever.

00:22:04.960 And this one won't.

00:22:07.700 so as you think about this it it gets pretty dark pretty fast the system you grew up with

00:22:14.400 the one you were taught to love the one about which there was at one point a lot to love

00:22:19.180 is going away because it just doesn't work and historians will debate why it didn't work in the

00:22:25.860 end were the flaws inherent to it was it bad leadership was it the baby boomers who knows

00:22:31.800 wiser heads will determine the answer but in the meantime it's enough to know that it can't

00:22:39.040 continue and that's one of the reasons that you're hearing an awful lot of dark muttering

00:22:45.360 about revolution violent and otherwise on the internet and everyone talking about that should

00:22:51.240 remember what that actually looks like civil wars are the ugliest of wars and they tend to go on for

00:22:55.260 a very long time and innocents die in huge numbers so that is not an outcome that you want if you can

00:23:00.500 help it. But what are the options? Well, out of nowhere the other day, we saw somebody, a clip

00:23:07.160 of a man in Britain, offering some measure of hope, not because the current system can continue,

00:23:14.640 it can't, and it won't, but because there are options that are not based on hate and division

00:23:22.560 and violence that are instead based on decency and kindness. And in fact, we haven't always

00:23:30.540 lived this way. Our current system is a fairly new invention. People didn't live this way 200

00:23:36.380 years ago. In fact, they couldn't imagine it. That man is a man called Frank Wright.

00:23:43.660 And he was caught on camera by a reporter walking down the street in the UK. And the reporter asked

00:23:48.980 him a question, how do you think Britain's going? How are things going? And he gave a pretty

00:23:55.160 remarkable answer for a man on the street interview. Here's part of it. So what does

00:23:58.940 Finnish look like? What does Finnish look like? Finnish looks like an economic collapse. Finnish

00:24:05.000 looks like spending all your money on foreign wars when nothing works in the country. Finnish

00:24:10.300 looks like you can't get a job for being competent. There's no sanity even in recruitment. We have a

00:24:16.280 competency crisis because for increasingly ideological and insane reasons, employment

00:24:21.320 opportunities, even training opportunities are restricted.

00:24:24.460 There's one new story after another about why, for political reasons, we're doing mad

00:24:30.460 things that bankrupt the country, that basically park people's careers, that exclude talented

00:24:36.100 people of genuine principle from any area of influence whatsoever.

00:24:40.000 And taken collectively, this is the politics and economics of national suicide.

00:24:44.500 So it has to stop.

00:24:46.280 So who is that guy? We thought. But we shouldn't have been that surprised because if you're on

00:24:52.080 social media, you've had similar experiences probably many times. You'll be reading something

00:24:56.320 like Twitter or Instagram, and there's a lot of garbage and porn and lunacy and bots. And

00:25:02.820 there's a lot of ugliness and pointlessness and time-wasting material. But in the middle of all

00:25:09.920 of that, occasionally you'll run across somebody writing something beautiful and true and perfectly

00:25:14.900 expressed and you'll think to yourself, why haven't I heard of this person? And what is he doing

00:25:18.680 posting on X at 2.30 on a Wednesday afternoon? Doesn't this guy have a job? And the answer is

00:25:25.180 he may not. Our system is so inimicable, so hostile to inherent superiority, to honesty,

00:25:36.760 to truth itself, but also to cleverness and creativity that it has systematically excluded

00:25:43.560 some of the brightest people in our country and in Britain from gainful employment.

00:25:48.160 The man you just saw, Frank Wright, who you never have heard of.

00:25:51.900 How do we know that?

00:25:52.460 Because he doesn't have a job.

00:25:53.360 That's why.

00:25:54.920 That man should be in a leading position within the intellectual realm in Great Britain.

00:26:01.320 He should be a noted public philosopher, obviously.

00:26:05.320 And you will definitely think that after you hear the hour-long interview we just did with

00:26:08.580 him, which we're going to play in just a moment.

00:26:11.380 But he's not doing any of those things.

00:26:13.560 Again, he's not really employed.

00:26:16.520 Why?

00:26:17.240 Because like a lot of people like him, he can't get a job.

00:26:20.640 Not just because he's the wrong color and gender, which he is, not just because he's

00:26:26.500 not gay, which he's not, but because he's honest and smart.

00:26:32.640 And honest and smart people have a kind of irrepressible habit of questioning, why are

00:26:38.900 we doing this?

00:26:39.620 of asking inconvenient questions.

00:26:41.960 And people like that are not welcome in the oligarchy.

00:26:45.200 Why would they be?

00:26:46.280 They're troublemakers.

00:26:47.140 They're disobedient.

00:26:48.820 The problem is that when you take people like that

00:26:50.720 out of a system,

00:26:52.140 the system loses all creativity.

00:26:54.240 The system loses the ability to continue itself,

00:26:57.380 to make anything interesting,

00:26:59.120 to have enlightened ideas.

00:27:02.300 And in the end, even to be decent,

00:27:04.220 it becomes a machine.

00:27:06.280 And that's what ours has become.

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00:28:05.060 still standing still brewing but frank wright despite being excluded from the system and he

00:28:10.980 would be here in the united states too let's not lie to ourselves has managed not to become bitter

00:28:17.260 or hateful or angry or a racist he's a thoroughly decent cheerful hopeful kind man whose prescriptions

00:28:28.560 are all about loving your neighbor

00:28:31.800 no matter where he's from

00:28:32.900 because Frank Wright is a Christian

00:28:34.440 and as you hear him speak

00:28:36.780 remember that he speaks

00:28:38.340 for the old Europe

00:28:39.780 the old England

00:28:41.380 the Christian Europe

00:28:43.020 that gave birth to our civilization

00:28:45.780 that produced the most

00:28:46.820 interesting and enlightened ideas

00:28:49.140 in the history of mankind

00:28:50.380 also produced

00:28:53.640 the most revolutionary technology

00:28:56.260 in the history of mankind

00:28:57.440 It was a truly successful, well-flawed society, and it was a Christian society.

00:29:04.880 So here's Frank Wright reminding us that the way we live now is not the way our great-grandparents

00:29:09.480 lived, it's not the way our great-grandchildren will live, and that's okay.

00:29:14.760 Here's Frank Wright.

00:29:16.260 Mr. Wright, thank you very much for joining us.

00:29:19.320 I became aware of you, like most people, fairly recently when you were interviewed as a man

00:29:23.320 on the street, as we say here in the United States, and gave this kind of beautiful explanation

00:29:27.680 of your concerns, and so we pressed a little deeper, and I want to read back to you a couple

00:29:32.740 of quotes from a series that you have started that I will be watching, but I want you to explain,

00:29:42.320 if you would, what you mean by this, and I'm quoting. We live in a belief system that no one

00:29:46.780 believes in anymore, and it has created a terminal crisis that it can't escape alive.

00:29:51.580 we have been trained in a way not to see the elephant at all and to call the mess it makes

00:29:56.340 of everything progress and then finally you write what is ending now is not the world

00:30:02.080 but the world as we knew it what system are you describing well i'm describing the system that

00:30:10.440 was marketed to us as liberal democracy which we've all taken we've been led to believe

00:30:17.480 deliberately because the system rules us by media is the acme of human organization it's like the

00:30:24.560 verdict of history and we've all kind of accepted that this is this is the only way we can live

00:30:30.720 but in fact that system was intentionally put together over a hundred years ago and as i've

00:30:36.260 explained elsewhere it is the god that failed twice and it was there to replace the civilization

00:30:41.360 that we had before and the tremendously destructive opportunity of the great war and then the

00:30:47.400 Second World War, provided, if you like, the opportunity to install this system in place of

00:30:54.620 the European civilization that we'd inherited from the monastic system of the church over a thousand

00:30:59.620 years ago. So what we're doing now is we're realizing that the beliefs that we've been

00:31:04.860 supplied by this system no longer explain the world. And the crisis that this system has created

00:31:11.780 isn't just national or local and it is local to you and I and it is in both of our nations

00:31:18.120 but it's worldwide and there's a collapse of belief in the system and I would like to remind

00:31:23.720 people that it is the foundational technique rather it's central to the political technique

00:31:28.620 of the 20th century to manufacture belief in your own system the system manufactures belief in itself

00:31:34.620 through every form of a cultural production I mean you know you're the things that you buy

00:31:40.840 the disposable items that you have the terms and conditions that are increasingly offline as well

00:31:45.920 as online when you notice that this is everywhere and it's infused into practically every transaction

00:31:52.820 and life is a series of transactions now in the main in this system because it's nihilist

00:31:58.020 and it's consumerist so you then you notice the the remarkable fact that you've never noticed

00:32:04.760 that you're policed by a total ideology until it starts to fail. And it's failing now. It's not

00:32:12.260 working for all of us. You know, in one of the most divisive times in human history, socially

00:32:17.160 and culturally, everyone can agree that everything's getting worse and there seems to be no

00:32:23.120 answers from within that system. And that's because the system is the problem.

00:32:29.000 I think everyone listening to this, regardless of ideology,

00:32:32.480 senses the truth in what you're saying.

00:32:36.440 One line stuck out to me.

00:32:38.260 The system is no longer capable

00:32:40.100 of explaining the world around us.

00:32:41.960 What do you mean by that?

00:32:44.000 Well, what I would say is that

00:32:46.760 the crisis that has been created

00:32:50.460 by the way that we are ruled

00:32:52.740 has become so impossible to manage

00:32:56.100 that it's completely out of control.

00:32:58.660 If you look at the idea,

00:33:00.220 the reason why I go on about the idea of

00:33:02.480 technique, is because technique is one word for saying, you know, the refinement of the process

00:33:08.440 of producing a standard result. Now, if you look at what our politics has done over a century,

00:33:14.300 then you can see that it's been refining itself, if you like, at the speed of the development of

00:33:19.860 communication technology, to produce a system that manufactures belief in itself. And we might

00:33:26.860 be caught up in a lot of the effects. So we'll complain about something that's woke, for example,

00:33:31.460 or we'll complain about some mad war that's been launched but really all these things make sense

00:33:37.540 from the point of view of one big idea which is if you understand that from its beginning the

00:33:43.720 liberal system was about creating a global standard in everything in economics in politics

00:33:50.220 in culture and in belief and when you see that as just an object a standard object we're going to

00:33:57.320 we're going to standardize the whole world, that's the object, that's the objective,

00:34:02.240 then you understand everything that's been done. And then all the madness makes sense because,

00:34:06.940 for example, one remarkable thing I discovered was some of the people that put together the

00:34:11.220 Federal Reserve and then the international liberal system management and the Council

00:34:16.760 on Foreign Relations, they describe themselves as internationalists. That's the right early

00:34:23.320 marketing term for what we call globalists today and so you can hear a lot of people complain about

00:34:29.960 that but really if you understand that the general idea is to standardize the whole world under the

00:34:36.260 standards of this new system under its political economy its politics its economics and the belief

00:34:42.200 it supplies and the only beliefs it really supplies are the beliefs in itself and it excludes

00:34:48.100 all the other ones. You can see why there's a terminal crisis now, because the only beliefs

00:34:54.180 that we can find that can explain the world aren't supplied by the liberal system. And that's why

00:35:00.080 they're policing speech, and that's why they call anyone, anyone who makes a sane, decent, and indeed

00:35:07.000 Christian objection to the politics and economics of mass destruction. That's why they describe you

00:35:13.240 as being evil for demanding a decent life and a future for your children. That's why they describe

00:35:19.100 you as an extremist if you dare to notice the obvious out loud. And these are some of the effects

00:35:26.040 of this system that's disintegrating. And part of that technique, if you like, is the creation of

00:35:31.600 crises, which they then go on to monetize. Like, obviously, the war industry is a huge crisis

00:35:38.860 management model that saturates our political class and effectively sponsors them and then

00:35:44.820 permissions further misadventures that result in mass destruction, misery, and of course,

00:35:50.540 magnifying the scale of mass migration. If you look into mass migration, it has been missold to us

00:35:56.680 as a human rights affair. It's not. It's a business. It's become an industry at scale

00:36:04.080 where governments and NGOs permissioned the arrival of millions of people which are often

00:36:09.900 transported into the West by criminal gangs that charge them considerable amounts of money to do so

00:36:15.800 and this in turn was created by these pointless wars that we fought time and again over the last

00:36:23.640 decades and to point that out basically one of the most remarkable things that occurred to me one day

00:36:29.640 whilst doing extensive reading

00:36:32.860 as a result of my extended leisure time

00:36:35.160 because I'm rather routinely unemployable

00:36:37.840 given my disputatious and principal character.

00:36:41.340 I came up with this idea

00:36:43.300 that regime change changed our regime

00:36:45.880 more than any other.

00:36:47.740 And that is a remarkable fact.

00:36:49.540 And it did,

00:36:50.420 because I'm sure you remember the 90s.

00:36:53.240 And sadly, it's not the 90s anymore,

00:36:55.120 but the 90s was a very different world

00:36:56.980 to what we're in now.

00:36:58.660 and that was before the regime change regime really kicked in and look what it's done to us

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00:40:31.000 yeah well i think you've you've answered the question in the back of my mind since you began

00:40:38.540 speaking which is why aren't you the most famous living philosopher in britain uh who as you should

00:40:44.100 be um and you aren't because you are committing this and you just described by asking questions

00:40:51.060 pointing a finger to the cause of the problems and not just hyperventilating about the problems

00:40:56.540 themselves as i did for example on fox news for so long so um congratulations to you shame on me

00:41:02.520 but notice you know who had a higher paying job so i guess that kind of you're making your point

00:41:07.940 or i'm admitting that your point is true it is true to my shame i'm i'm toxic to money and uh

00:41:14.200 you know it doesn't like me and uh there it is i don't care you know i'm i'm used to that i'm not

00:41:19.220 going i'm not blaming you personally no the the thing is is that we we all we've when we we think

00:41:26.520 about blaming people really even in some of the worst most offensive and in fact almost

00:41:32.620 unforgivable cases you have to look at people and really genuinely ask can you honestly just

00:41:38.120 blame them people are responsible for what they do but we have all been raised i've been raised

00:41:45.260 you've been raised in this total political technique, which has formed our consciousness

00:41:50.400 about the world, which has distorted our moral sensibilities, which has given us false aspirations

00:41:56.240 and the worship of false idols. And so can you blame people when they're misled? Can you blame

00:42:02.140 people when they become subject to mass delusions that send them into frenzies? Because the system

00:42:08.100 has been designed to do that. And if you think that this is speculative, the giant of post-war

00:42:16.040 American diplomacy, George F. Kennan, who was a genius at preventing the outbreak of nuclear war,

00:42:23.340 and so should be commended for that. But in 1948, and you can read this in the congressional record,

00:42:28.580 he published a paper called On the Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare. And in that paper,

00:42:33.520 He said that he should use the CIA, which had been created a year before in 1947, to basically create cultural propaganda through the direct sponsorship and creation in some cases of things like modern art, sponsoring speakers such as Sir Isaiah Berlin, the international and greatest champion of the liberal idea in the 20th century, the art critic Clement Greenberg, touring musical operations and orchestras and so on.

00:43:00.200 And this became, if you like, the seminal point of the development of cultural production in the mid to late 20th century, where you find now, if you look at it through this prism, you can see that practically everything that's produced in our mass culture is in some way a form of propaganda for the liberal political economy that rules us all.

00:43:23.020 so basically everything that you see everything that you consume all the avenues that you have

00:43:28.520 to navigate to earn a living and to communicate with people and even to get access to your own

00:43:33.080 money these are all contingent on some kind of tacit acceptance or submission to a series of

00:43:38.920 ideological rules that you're never asked about and you don't really have any chance to object to

00:43:43.940 or you risk your meager livelihood for your increasingly worthless money and so when you

00:43:49.760 notice that this is another reason why people are losing belief in this system. And it's not because

00:43:54.860 of radicals and online extremists like me and bigots like you, Mr. Coulson. It's because of

00:44:02.180 reality. The awful reality we live in is unignorably bad and no amount of sophisticated

00:44:07.960 cultural production and propaganda can persuade you otherwise. So it's finished.

00:44:13.080 It does seem like the final bet, though, of the organizers of the system, the maintainers of the

00:44:19.240 system, the stewards of our system is technology, is supercomputing AI. And the point of that,

00:44:27.720 I'm starting to sense, is coercion. Like, it doesn't matter whether you agree with a system

00:44:33.620 or like it. When the control grid is in place, you have to obey. Well, here's another problem

00:44:41.320 about the political technique of the 20th century. Every time something has been made possible by

00:44:46.420 technology. We've seen our political economy adopted wholeheartedly without any real attempt

00:44:53.300 to mitigate any serious threats to the dignity of human life, to whether or not it's going to

00:44:58.420 improve, maximize human flourishing, or indeed immiserators. And so you see that every time

00:45:05.880 something's invented, you invent, the liberals invent a new series of kind of moral values,

00:45:13.040 what they call ethics, to permission its use. You've seen this in the development of technology

00:45:18.320 to sterilize and mutilate children, for example, which has perniciously been presented as a human

00:45:23.220 rights issue. That was made possible by technology. Now, just to use that example, and to use the

00:45:29.880 example of artificial intelligence, as it's so called, just because we can do something,

00:45:35.060 it doesn't mean to say we should do. And that's a very important question for political power.

00:45:41.320 and I think that's one of the duties of the state, to look into how can we best use this for the

00:45:47.140 purpose of the human flourishing of mankind, which should be the duties of the state. And if it is

00:45:52.260 good, great. But let's be careful with it and let's see what good we can do with it, rather than have

00:45:58.560 it just used, misused, or indeed unleashed and ravaged through our lives. And one of the reasons

00:46:05.220 why this may very well get permissioned by the ruling elite that's currently installed is because

00:46:11.040 they've reduced the value of human life to price. Our economy sees human life as disposable. It can

00:46:17.600 be simply eliminated as a matter of convenience, and that's celebrated as the pinnacle of women's

00:46:23.740 liberation to basically kill your own children because they disadvantage you by being alive.

00:46:29.400 And the same thing with the elderly. We're effectively disposable. These arguments,

00:46:33.520 I believe, are now moving outside of the traditional Catholic Christian base,

00:46:39.340 and even atheists and liberals are beginning to realize hang on a minute we live in a vast

00:46:44.320 evil machine that sees us all as not only replaceable but disposable it's a disposable

00:46:49.800 political economy and i think we should dispose of it before it disposes of us and this is the

00:46:55.620 reason why i've been on about surrogacy for so long because that was permissioned in 1993 in a

00:47:02.460 law in the united states which astonishingly established the right to buy a human life

00:47:08.200 and that's what surrogacy is it's the hire of women to produce a human life for sale and this

00:47:15.360 if this is not the um one of the if you like the lowest points of human degradation in history i

00:47:21.940 don't know what is but i will finish by saying this in his notes towards a definition of culture

00:47:27.740 around the middle of the 20th century t.s elliott said there is no limit to the depths to which man

00:47:32.160 can fall so we shouldn't expect that just because something is shockingly morally degrading

00:47:37.760 like surrogacy, that people will wake up and go, oh, no, that's enough. No, if we don't actually

00:47:44.320 stop it, we will continue to fall into the abyss. And I think we've all got that sense of falling

00:47:49.400 now. You know, when you have a nightmare and you're falling, then suddenly you snap and wake

00:47:53.640 up. I think we're all waking up at the moment. If I could just ask a question about motive.

00:47:59.380 So you said at the outset that the design of the system

00:48:02.600 was to create sameness, uniformity globally as a standard, a universal standard in belief,

00:48:11.360 in economy, in culture. And that's obviously worked. But what was the motive behind that?

00:48:17.960 Why would anyone or any group of people want that, do you think?

00:48:22.760 Well, if you look at the, by the way, this is not speculative and it takes place in the record

00:48:28.720 of the Federal Reserve and the United States Congress and so on. This isn't speculative

00:48:32.940 fiction. It isn't some kind of grievance narrative. There are several major interests

00:48:38.100 involved in this that I can call to mind immediately. Obviously, one of them financial

00:48:42.420 people like J.P. Morgan and later on the Rockefellers, who could see the enormous

00:48:46.840 potential of having, if you like, a debt issuance system that was globally exportable,

00:48:53.240 a standard model, where whatever you wish to permission in these new liberal democracies

00:48:58.520 that you were going to create, you could finance it by simply printing money. And that's what they

00:49:03.280 did. And that's partly the reason why liberal democracy failed in the first 15 years of its

00:49:07.940 life. It failed along the 1920s through the 30s. And all the liberal democracies that were installed

00:49:14.100 shortly after the Great War, they just dissolved. Because they couldn't answer the financial crisis

00:49:19.860 that their new economic model had created, and they had no political answer to Bolshevism.

00:49:24.860 But apart from that, you had the international financiers who wanted a global standard economic

00:49:29.800 system for their own interests. You had people like Bertrand Russell and John Dewey, these kind

00:49:36.480 of atheist, pragmatist, rationalist philosophers, who actually sold you the idea that if we had a

00:49:43.120 one-world government, we could end war, and that they would sell that to you with these humanitarian

00:49:49.180 principles in mind and I think Bertrand Russell was quite convinced of that I mean I don't find

00:49:55.040 that a convincing argument because there's a profound reason why that's wrong and that's

00:49:59.680 because liberals believe that man is perfectible and that according to the the myth of progress

00:50:04.700 that man just gets better every day because the calendar flips over but the inexorable moral

00:50:10.800 progress of mankind is a myth and the British philosopher John Gray has expanded that very

00:50:15.500 cleverly in his seven types of atheism showing that this is just a fantasy it's a utopian delusion

00:50:20.720 but those people sincerely believed it and these people are dangerous they're fanatics

00:50:25.120 and this is where utopian thought leads you like the british thinker and journalist peter hitchin

00:50:31.280 said you know the trouble with utopia is you have to row across an ocean of blood and you never

00:50:36.340 arrive but but that that has meaning in reality so you did have well-meaning liberal fanatics like

00:50:43.840 Bertrand Russell. And John Dewey actually wrote a series of essays in the 1930s called Towards a

00:50:49.520 Common Faith. And he said that we should supply, we the liberal elite, should supply a kind of

00:50:56.000 global Christless religion, a common faith, so these plebeians could believe in it and we could

00:51:02.000 somehow unite this new global system of interdigitated liberal democracies, which are all

00:51:07.720 identical in having bicameral systems, and incidentally all identical in the fact that you

00:51:12.200 can only vote for left liberals right liberals extreme liberals or bolshevists which is what

00:51:17.660 you could actually vote for in the first instance yes so whilst whilst you're in this new happy

00:51:22.040 utopia we're going to give you this belief system and bear in mind that comes from um a thinker

00:51:27.700 called matthew arnold who wrote a book in 1863 called culture and anarchy and i'll finish with

00:51:33.640 this that he said that because we're going to liberalize the world and democratize it but

00:51:39.780 obviously we're going to subtract religion because we liberals don't believe in christ

00:51:43.280 we're going to retain the outward structure of the church and the armature if you like of our

00:51:49.720 civilization but we're going to remove the supernatural and christ and god himself

00:51:54.960 from the center of that and he said we should replace it with culture or we'll have anarchy

00:52:01.220 so from the 1860s the liberals had this idea of standardizing the world beneath their own

00:52:09.020 godless standards but they recognized that without the foundational christianity of our civilization

00:52:14.220 there would be anarchy and so matthew arnold imagined that he would he would promote things

00:52:18.760 like poetry and classical art and classical music but instead you got like taylor swift and televised

00:52:24.200 sports and then of course nowadays you get like the current thing craze where you all put on some

00:52:30.040 crazy hat or or kneel for an obvious criminal or something but these are all elements of the mass

00:52:35.900 production of culture which generates mass belief and literally does drive people insane because it

00:52:41.580 is fundamentally counter-reality this is account is this is a revolutionary ideology and all

00:52:47.780 revolutions are basically revolts against the natural order uh the changeless order of being

00:52:53.520 in reality created by god of course and so what they do instead is they create this kind of make

00:52:59.280 belief reality for you to live in and so the final thing i'll say about this is a foundational figure

00:53:04.400 in the creation of the liberal system was a man called Walter Lippmann. And Walter Lippmann said

00:53:09.500 that in order to rule these new democracies, where all these awful ordinary people will have the vote,

00:53:15.580 what we must do is create a pseudo-reality, his words. And he said we should use mass

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00:53:26.480 mass communication picture of the world is the real world, then we can change that picture at

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00:56:17.380 Do you think that technology,

00:56:19.960 new forms of mass media will allow this to continue?

00:56:25.340 Oh, yes.

00:56:26.100 and it has and it is because you can see how the refinement of that has taken place from

00:56:32.360 the paper and cinema age through the radio and then the television and the internet age

00:56:38.200 but you can see that the technique has become refined and that it's become ever more subtle

00:56:43.220 and now you have a form of addiction towards a constant stream of mind rot that just burns out

00:56:48.200 your brain and i'd like to remind everybody that melting down due to information overload isn't

00:56:54.180 just for your political enemies so you know practice some informational hygiene every now

00:56:58.540 and then because otherwise that kind of laser beam of slop will just burn a hole directly

00:57:04.300 through your cerebral cortex and you won't notice it because you'll just be numb

00:57:08.800 you're synaptically inactive so that's what happens similarly right i've got to say this

00:57:16.340 you live in this system where you're supposed to live without complete moral restraints and

00:57:21.160 they say it's fantastic to just indulge all your sensations because that's how you can sell more

00:57:25.480 things. And that's how you can sell everything to anyone. Just say, look, liberate all your

00:57:29.480 desires, have no restraint. But if you have no informational restraint or any moral restraint,

00:57:34.620 you end up with the jaded appetites of the Marquis de Sade. And I've unfortunately read

00:57:40.240 the Marquis de Sade's work. I have too. Well, they're not some fascinating account of adventure.

00:57:46.140 you can just see a man degraded by the fact that he saturated himself with ever more extreme

00:57:52.440 pursuance of his unrestrained and repugnant desires until eventually he feels nothing

00:57:57.860 and he's dead to the world. That's what you end up like when you are saturated with information

00:58:04.360 and desires and pornification and the constant stimulation of wants in place of needs and it

00:58:11.700 impoverishes you it doesn't liberate you it liberates you into a void actually annihilates

00:58:16.060 you and so why is that technique not going to work now despite it being so sophisticated

00:58:21.120 it's because we can all see that this has not produced the paradise on earth that the adverts

00:58:27.460 are telling us that it is in fact it's produced the opposite and again it's that reality that

00:58:33.420 is making people not just disaffected oh i think i'll make a different political choice this time

00:58:38.080 It's like, what have we done? What has happened to our lives? What does my life mean anymore? Who am I? This is a profound existential crisis for the West. And it's necessary because it permissions the replacement of this distorted, indeed, diabolical system with a return to reality.

00:58:56.060 before i ask you what comes next what's what's the next reality um can you describe what this

00:59:05.420 system replaced what what came before liberal democracy and in what sense was it better

00:59:11.240 well quite a lot of people reference the the wonderful writing of the long neglected historian

00:59:18.240 ajp taylor and he's lovely and he's written lots of volumes about the origins of the first and

00:59:23.800 Second World War, which is a remarkable history, by the way, far better than the slop that passes

00:59:28.280 for history nowadays. But A.J.P. Taylor wrote this piece about what Britain was like before

00:59:33.760 the Great War. And he said the average Englishman would have absolutely no contact with the state

00:59:38.340 whatsoever, except when he went to the post office. And of course, when your team phoned

00:59:43.380 me up earlier on, I was trying to go to the post office to have some tangential contact with the

00:59:48.560 state, which I tried to avoid as well. It's very difficult nowadays because it penetrates every

00:59:53.160 area of your life. But, you know, we didn't have things like income tax, passports, universal

00:59:58.600 suffrage, and so on. And that might sound like a terrible thing. But at the height of the British

01:00:03.120 Empire, most of our political arguments at the elite level were about how to interpret Christianity

01:00:08.280 in the form of the management of the state and the world. And they really were. And even a liberal

01:00:13.040 like Robert Toomes, in his History of the English, admits that. And his chapter on that is absolutely

01:00:19.040 fascinating. So what basically the liberal system replaced after the great industrial revolution of

01:00:26.340 the First World War was the Christian civilization that we'd inherited from the monastic tradition of

01:00:32.340 the church a thousand years ago. You had a Catholic hierarchy in Belgium. You had Catholic

01:00:38.900 monarchies in Europe. You had Christian nations. And we had a very different way of living,

01:00:45.220 which didn't have this administrative bureaucracy infused with this mad ideology that taxes us to

01:00:52.600 death to police us with this kind of awful commissariat lanyard class, for example.

01:00:57.600 So it became bureaucratized, managerialized, and formalized, and gradually normalized,

01:01:03.460 because what that system has done is it subtracted practically every historical memory that we had,

01:01:09.280 that there was ever anything before it, and also that there could be ever anything else after it.

01:01:15.220 And so it gives itself this idea of a false eternity or permanence, and that's basically evil.

01:01:21.040 And it reminds me of the title of a book about the end of the Soviet Union written by a bloke

01:01:24.420 called Yurchak. It's a terrible book, don't buy it, but the title's brilliant. And it says,

01:01:29.360 everything was forever until it was no more. And that's the moment that we live in now.

01:01:34.880 So you think this is the end of that system?

01:01:38.440 Oh, yes. There's another and far more distinguished tweedy northerner called John

01:01:44.320 Gray I've mentioned him before and for years he's been talking about um the end of the liberal idea

01:01:49.520 generally like liberalism finished you know not just the political ideology but it's it's economics

01:01:55.040 its system the lot he could see the writing on the wall um a number of years ago maybe 10 years ago

01:02:00.680 I went to see him personally and listened to him he's a brilliant man and uh he's also well I think

01:02:07.540 one of the most remarkable things about his work is that he said it so long ago but why would he

01:02:12.640 know. He was a student of Sir Isaiah Berlin, who was the greatest champion of the liberal idea in

01:02:17.300 20th century. So he's been saying that for a long time. It's not just me. And it's very difficult

01:02:23.640 to persuade people because they see this total system and they think, well, how can you ever

01:02:29.060 get rid of it? But one of the major ideas that I can supply to you that will have practical value

01:02:34.880 to you in your life and probably give you a lot of realistic hope, not false hope, but real hope,

01:02:39.860 is that practically no one ever talks about the central role of belief in the political technique

01:02:46.340 of the 20th century. That means belief is foundational to the way that we are ruled.

01:02:52.660 And as you can see, millions and millions of people worldwide every day are losing belief

01:02:58.620 in the way they are ruled, despite the fact that the machinery of manufacturing that belief is more

01:03:04.760 omnipresent and refined than ever. They have lost control of the foundational political technique

01:03:11.580 that secures their power. This is how they make belief is the title of one of my pieces on it,

01:03:17.620 and I show you how they made that mass belief, and I also show you why it's not working anymore,

01:03:22.900 and again, because it's effectively a contradiction to the awful reality that that same political

01:03:28.440 system has created around us all, practically everywhere we go, in what's increasingly an

01:03:33.380 international nowhere land. What do you think replaces it?

01:03:40.280 Well, I think what replaces it is a politics and an economics that's actually for us and not for

01:03:47.540 itself. I mean, the economy, what's it for, is a good question. It's a wise question, because we

01:03:54.180 appear to be for the economy now. We're disposed for the economy, we're replaced in our own nations,

01:04:00.500 because the economy demands it rather than be disposed of by the economy i think we should

01:04:06.040 dispose of it before it disposes of us but what comes next one of the fascinating things that i

01:04:11.440 think is interesting is that it's absolutely terrifying to elites if ordinary people uh

01:04:18.680 such as suspicious men with moustaches who turn up on streets by accident if they get involved

01:04:24.620 in politics they get interested in it it's terrifying to them like like for very good

01:04:29.960 reason, you're painfully aware of this, most people should sensibly spend their lives never

01:04:35.280 having a single political thought because it's a terrible business full of awful people. And why

01:04:40.120 would you think about that? People have to think about politics now because it won't leave them

01:04:45.380 alone and it's ruining their lives. Now, in Britain, there was a study done after the 2024

01:04:50.600 general election that returned what was effectively a supermajority to the stricken and, well,

01:04:56.820 the panic-stricken-looking Dalek-voiced man Keir Starmer,

01:05:00.820 impossibly, he got hundreds of MPs.

01:05:03.980 How could you vote for this?

01:05:05.400 He looks like an animatronic parody of himself

01:05:08.100 that's in this perpetual state of terror.

01:05:10.180 Look at him.

01:05:10.820 When he's on these broadcasts, watch his eye.

01:05:12.860 Turn the sound down because he's awful.

01:05:15.780 But turn the sound down.

01:05:17.420 Look at his eyes.

01:05:18.040 He looks like this.

01:05:20.060 He's looking for the exits.

01:05:21.620 He looks like a man in a hostage video

01:05:23.460 and he knows he's not getting out of the room.

01:05:24.720 anyway why does he look like that but there are obvious reasons why he knows he knows the game's

01:05:31.020 up but the the real danger for people like him and the conservatives and the liberals and all

01:05:37.080 the other people that have ruled us into this mess is that in the last election when he won

01:05:41.620 half the people who could vote didn't there's a there's a survey by a an institution called the

01:05:49.520 institute for public policy research and they produced a paper called half of us and it showed

01:05:54.600 that around 50% of the people who were registered eligible to vote didn't. And there are even more

01:06:00.520 people who didn't vote who haven't even bothered to register. If you can mobilize some of those

01:06:05.740 people, maybe even a majority of those people, you are going to win. Because the political system

01:06:12.380 only is only triangulated on the people that currently vote. But if you give them something

01:06:18.740 that that system doesn't give them, then those people who don't vote probably will vote for you.

01:06:24.300 And that's terrifying.

01:06:25.880 And that, I think, is very interesting to anyone who has an interest in being political successful.

01:06:32.600 Because I've said before, anyone who comes along and says, right, look, we're going to stop the madness and do some common sense politics for a chair, you'll clean up.

01:06:41.420 That's practically all you have to do.

01:06:43.780 But, of course, common sense is toxic to this system.

01:06:47.560 And they'll probably call you terrible names if you come out with it.

01:06:50.300 But if you couldn't suffer a few voodoo curses for being sane in public, then yes, you probably have a very promising political career.

01:06:58.880 But what if the system refuses to allow that?

01:07:01.180 What if you were to say common sense things in public and you got arrested, which is happening throughout the West?

01:07:07.740 What if the system wouldn't allow your political party or you as a candidate to run because you were too extreme?

01:07:15.140 I mean, at a certain point, is the system capable of being reformed using the system?

01:07:21.480 Yes, I think it is.

01:07:22.680 I think I know where that's going.

01:07:24.260 But I think if we allow things to carry on for another good number of years, then nobody

01:07:29.460 will be able to control the collapse that will result.

01:07:32.200 So it's time to act responsibly to mitigate the ongoing destruction of our civilization

01:07:38.960 whilst we have the chance.

01:07:41.300 Why do I think that can happen?

01:07:43.000 Well, I think it can happen for an obvious reason.

01:07:46.800 If you look at the desperate measures that the liberal regime, if you like to call it,

01:07:51.760 in places like France and Germany and Britain are resorting to,

01:07:55.400 these measures are authoritarian.

01:07:58.160 They are locking people up for saying things which are true and legal.

01:08:02.740 But every act that they take in self-preservation is also an act of self-harm now.

01:08:08.980 Every time they do this, ordinary people notice and say,

01:08:13.000 What on earth are you doing?

01:08:14.640 You're releasing all these terrible people.

01:08:16.960 Yeah.

01:08:17.760 And then the courts admitted about Sam Melia,

01:08:21.000 who went to prison and they refused to let him see his children.

01:08:24.400 They said that what he put on his stickers was legal and true.

01:08:28.280 But nonetheless, they imprisoned him.

01:08:30.340 And is it Dries van Langenhove?

01:08:32.300 He had a very similar situation.

01:08:34.440 He's under a similar situation now.

01:08:36.420 What he said was true, but they said it was,

01:08:38.200 because it was true, because it was true,

01:08:40.860 it was liable to cause public unrest.

01:08:43.000 and caused some kind of invidious behavior because of the awful reality that's happened.

01:08:48.000 Now, they have created this awful reality, and they are now criminalizing the mention of that

01:08:54.100 awful reality. That is not a successful technique that can endure. That is a deeply unstable

01:09:02.760 political strategy. You're effectively saying, we have made your life miserable. But if you

01:09:08.420 name it, not even if you complain about it, if you just state the facts, if you just state the

01:09:13.760 obvious and point to reality, we may lock you up for doing that. So what they're saying to you is

01:09:19.400 basically suffer and die in silence or else. And as things get worse for everyone, as people are

01:09:26.080 increasingly radicalized by their grocery bills, how are you going to lock everyone up for being

01:09:31.440 incensed at being unable to afford to even live when they're desperately trying to work to stay

01:09:36.980 alive. You can't do this. It's unstable. And furthermore, like I said, every act that they're

01:09:43.020 taking to do this, censorship, speech crimes, locking people up, it's ultimately an act of

01:09:48.760 self-harm that further delegitimizes their power. And I would add that the state is no longer

01:09:55.120 legitimate, which is becoming obvious to people because it doesn't discharge its duties.

01:10:01.560 Yes. It's not doing its part. It's violated its own terms in the contract.

01:10:07.060 Well, it does have what we hear all this talk of hysterical rights, and we never hear any talk at

01:10:13.100 all of duties. And why is that? That's because the states that rulers do not discharge their duties.

01:10:18.860 The state has duties. Simply, the state's duties, this is a very oversimplified version,

01:10:24.620 but nonetheless, is to provide security, prosperity, and meaning to your life in the

01:10:29.700 way that it organises the political economy, right? It doesn't provide any of those things.

01:10:34.580 and in fact it now threatens to lock you up if you complain about the mess it's made out of your life

01:10:39.520 and how it's robbed your children of any meaningful future and so on all the many disasters and indeed

01:10:45.960 crimes that it's committed and so this is this means that the state is not legitimate which is

01:10:52.080 a tremendously grave question and i'm not the only person to say this again john gray says this as

01:10:58.060 well, the leading British political philosopher. So if you look at these things, if you have the

01:11:04.300 time in your desperate life, when you're trying to meet the payments on your endless debts,

01:11:09.280 if you have the time to look at these things, you can see that these arguments have been made

01:11:13.100 in very closed intellectual circles for a number of years. And indeed, from people like me,

01:11:18.040 you've never heard of them. Because again, the way you are ruled subtracts practically any useful

01:11:23.380 information from your life and gives you slop instead so it pushes you into a despondent despair

01:11:29.660 where you simply think about well i'll just i'll just i'll just satisfy myself for the meantime

01:11:34.440 just get drunk i'll go and gamble my life away i'll take some drugs and i'll go to eat overeat

01:11:39.640 something anything to try and stop the pain for now indeed antidepressants drugs legal and otherwise

01:11:45.320 this is immiserating our people because and your people because the system basically tells you we're

01:11:52.100 going to make your life worse if you complain about it we'll lock you up and uh there's no

01:11:57.140 way out there's there's no alternative to us this is paradise this is utopia this is the best of all

01:12:02.180 possible worlds you're being ruled by this it's as if dr pangloss is it's kind of post-op trans

01:12:08.700 transane dr pangloss now is coming to you and telling you this uh that's the that's the character

01:12:15.460 in voltaire's candide that said everything is for the best in the best of all possible worlds when

01:12:20.740 people's teeth are falling out

01:12:21.860 and the roads are full of holes and so on.

01:12:23.180 It sounds remarkably similar to our world today.

01:12:26.320 And by the way, I refuse to apologize for my English teeth

01:12:28.800 because I think it's an act of treason

01:12:30.700 if we ever get American teeth.

01:12:33.360 I find them charming too, I agree.

01:12:36.700 So I guess this is a perfect moment to ask you who you are.

01:12:41.720 You're not, unfortunately, Britain's

01:12:44.800 most famous public philosopher.

01:12:46.500 what is your origin story how did you come to these views what what have you done for a living

01:12:53.860 why do you think this uh well i'm i grew up in a working class um household where we didn't have

01:13:01.600 any money everybody was on the dole which is on kind of social security just because there weren't

01:13:06.060 any jobs so that was normal nobody really minded um everybody had nothing relatively speaking and

01:13:12.720 And so that's why I'm not afraid of being financially ruined by any way.

01:13:18.460 It may well happen.

01:13:19.400 I don't really care.

01:13:20.880 So there's that.

01:13:23.220 I went into, I was quite good at school.

01:13:26.900 And so I kind of ended up worshipping the kind of liberals that taught me.

01:13:31.000 I became a liberal.

01:13:32.200 And that's what I did.

01:13:33.460 And I believed in that belief system.

01:13:34.880 I abandoned my cradle Catholic faith for the false idols of liberalism.

01:13:39.520 And since then, my life has been a series of corrections, if you like.

01:13:45.340 I've realized the profound mistakes I've made intellectually in my life,

01:13:50.840 thinking I've been wrong, oh dear.

01:13:53.540 And to recognize that and to do that is to learn.

01:13:56.200 I learned that as well.

01:13:57.360 And it comes at considerable personal cost.

01:14:00.080 But I did eventually develop a sense of principle

01:14:03.080 and also kind of an objection to being ruled by

01:14:05.920 these kind of increasingly ruthless workplace directives that are totally pointless needless

01:14:11.520 and destroy all morale so I kind of became a bit unemployable as a result surprisingly

01:14:17.160 but you can't get on I tried for many many years to get published and I never got anywhere I even

01:14:24.540 met a major publisher once accidentally who is a friend of a friend and they said they'd help me

01:14:31.220 and they never did, because I found out that's because,

01:14:34.700 well, basically because I'm white and I'm not a homosexualist.

01:14:38.900 And because you have to.

01:14:41.180 There were friends that I met in the Army Reserve who said,

01:14:43.340 I couldn't get a job in the fire service unless I ticked the gay box.

01:14:47.320 And I saw them, you know, I've seen his application and what he did it,

01:14:53.240 and said, I tried before, but once I tick the box, they'll interview me.

01:14:57.720 These things are real.

01:14:58.760 You really are.

01:14:59.420 When I say that people are shut out of life, they are.

01:15:03.220 You're shut out of any chance of not even advancement or riches, but really any real opportunity.

01:15:09.080 It might come as some surprise to you, Mr. Carlson, but we don't live in a meritocracy.

01:15:14.940 No, I've noticed. I've noticed.

01:15:17.140 I don't know if you've met our ruling class, but Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are not anomalies.

01:15:23.400 We recognize them.

01:15:24.460 well i i i actually gave up my what i laughingly call my career when god blessed us with children

01:15:31.360 rather late in life and so i decided to bring them up and i became what i like to call a trans

01:15:37.760 mummy and when i when i i'd had quite enough of duplo and nappies and so on one day and i realized

01:15:44.260 i had to do something else for my life so i volunteered for the army reserve and when i did

01:15:49.160 they said what's your occupation and i insisted on putting the word trans mummy in there and the

01:15:54.380 platoon sergeant actually threw the pencil back over the table so i'm not writing that

01:15:58.440 and i said well i will then because i thought it was very funny and and it is and then as he kind

01:16:03.840 of fulminated at me i said you do realize that if i do identify as this it's basically a criminal

01:16:08.540 offense for you to disagree with me i looked at him very seriously and he realized i was taking

01:16:12.580 it was a joke but i did that and then by god's good grace i ended up writing and i said i said

01:16:21.760 to my wife i i'm going to try and join the army full time and get a commission but i did and i

01:16:28.160 went i passed and they they judged me actually of having average intelligence which is a very good

01:16:33.220 indication of the army uh thank you the army but but i found that the army at that time had become

01:16:39.180 captured by the ideology that is ruining our our nation and i i'd signed up to serve the crown

01:16:46.780 and I was going to serve as best I could to do that but the flag that they now salute is more

01:16:52.840 commonly the rainbow flag which which has that kind of transgender triangle on the side of it

01:16:59.460 and also that circle which I think stands for the pitiless eye of Sauron himself so I realized that

01:17:04.820 wasn't for me so I came home with my cap in my hand and I said well I had a go at getting a real

01:17:09.740 job love and guess what and so I said look you know once again you know and I said I'll try

01:17:16.700 by hand at writing and so i started writing on a sub stack and eventually quite by accident a fellow

01:17:23.880 came around to my house who i was i was teaching him a bit of boxing because i do martial arts and

01:17:28.380 he uh he said oh why don't you come and write for us and that was life site news and so there i

01:17:33.260 started writing like little freelance articles for them and graciously they've put up with me

01:17:38.740 for a couple of years now and now i appear on faith and reason and i've made this little series

01:17:43.340 with them and i have tried to get sacked uh because it's me but so far they have uh they

01:17:52.160 have suffered me admirably i would say that's an amazing story but you left out

01:17:57.600 the key pivot maybe the point of the story which is how did your views change back

01:18:03.040 you embraced liberalism but now you've rejected it why oh um one one thing that i did was um i

01:18:12.820 tried to do good and so I started working with violent youth offenders in inner cities and I

01:18:21.680 worked for a charity and I worked for a Christian charity in the north of England and I had a bit

01:18:28.600 of a talent for that because I genuinely believe you should try and again look into the causes and

01:18:35.400 not just bewail the effects and some of these people are young men very violent they're violent

01:18:40.080 defenders they would attack you and so on and I was determined to try and keep them out the

01:18:43.800 criminal justice system and in doing this I encountered pardon me I encountered how the

01:18:52.600 basically they don't want you to solve the problem you you get four times the amount of money for

01:18:57.840 the less the less British the less native the less English they speak the more crime they commit the

01:19:02.400 more disturbed they are the more funding you get for these people and if you're actually talented

01:19:07.680 uh academic subjects and your only hope of escaping your sink estate like like i did

01:19:14.080 was was through some kind of academic achievement you get nothing you get rewarded and incentivized

01:19:20.500 for being the worst possible member of society and a tremendous amount of money goes on ipads

01:19:26.000 and holidays and so on and i found a lot of pushback from actually producing good results

01:19:31.220 because i didn't i told a lot of the cohort these young men there's 17 to kind of 20 years old

01:19:38.100 violent criminals some of them attempted rapists and murderers and things like that

01:19:42.480 and drug dealers i used to say to them honestly i'm not your friend and i shan't respect you

01:19:48.360 because you're scum and when you begin to act decently i will respect you and they used to

01:19:52.820 i used to go to work in kind of like a tweed suit and things like that and brogues looking like this

01:19:57.240 that's what i look like and then these look at me and laugh at you and stuff like that

01:20:01.680 and then they'd say to me oh you know f off and i said no f off sir and then people would laugh at

01:20:08.760 me for that but then after a few weeks they would actually say f off sir and then after a month

01:20:13.960 they wouldn't say f off anymore and just sir and then they'd stop saying unspeakable and beastly

01:20:19.080 things to people in the street and then when they did try and stab me and kill me and things which

01:20:23.380 they did uh and they never succeeded because i was obviously quite um capable i didn't harm any

01:20:30.380 of them in in disarming them by the way i don't believe in that and just just do enough and they

01:20:35.200 develop a respect for you because you're not weak and this is this is something that i suggested

01:20:40.240 this to someone that i knew in who's in in the legal um establishment i said to him look it's

01:20:45.980 a culture of crime and he's a criminal prosecutor and he's a very senior one and i just met him in

01:20:51.140 the pub one day and i said to him that's what i think i said i think it's a parallel culture

01:20:55.480 and when you look at it they've got their own lingo they've got their own kind of thieves

01:20:59.460 cant they've got their own way of describing the world but they've got their own para-familial

01:21:04.000 structure where the kind of gang leader or so on is is the dad because they're often fatherless as

01:21:08.980 well due to his social breakdown and then you've also got a moral inversion where if they think

01:21:15.700 that you're a good person what you and i would recognize a good person they think that that

01:21:19.200 makes you weak they think that that makes you prey and they see a lot of people as prey as well

01:21:24.060 and so you there's really no attempt to recognize that that is a parallel culture and the reason

01:21:29.960 for that is is that our culture has been dissolved into these antagonistic parallel cultures and i

01:21:36.360 think that's partly a result intentionally and unintentionally of the way that we're ruled by

01:21:41.600 this political technique it's deeply antagonistic and why is it useful for elite power to do this

01:21:47.360 because what it does is it dissolves social cohesion which makes it easier to dissolve

01:21:52.180 nations into this global standard system which is why this this word nihilism matters because you

01:21:58.060 know if you do if you have no essential value and dignity to human life then you don't care about

01:22:01.980 this all you care about is standardizing things and so anything that's destructive actually helps

01:22:07.200 that and you find that anything that's destructive has also become a business even this and so i

01:22:13.740 ended up doing a bit of that as well and that that really cured me a lot of a lot of liberal

01:22:17.840 delusions because I had to work at the hard end of it and I went in there very charitable intentions

01:22:23.300 well it was quite challenging but it was impossible to maintain beliefs in those liberal ideas after

01:22:29.260 you'd done it and and so I began to profoundly revise my my worldview and the perhaps the most

01:22:35.860 profound revision that came in my life was that my wife was and this is a terrible thing to say

01:22:41.300 but it's true my wife was nearly killed um without any reason by simple negligence of bumbling

01:22:48.840 migrant nurses in the london hospital where she was going to give birth to my son

01:22:53.740 and i thought of actually suing the nhs but i don't like to do that because

01:22:57.700 we pay for that collectively and i think that's a rather terrible thing to do but i i actually

01:23:02.720 went outside and got out in front of a petrol station and got on my knees and did a terrible

01:23:07.340 thing for a once true believing liberal and i got on my knees and i prayed to god and i begged him

01:23:12.420 to help my wife and my son and and to deliver them alive and and if he did i would serve him

01:23:18.720 for the rest of my life and he did and uh since then i have and i try to be a less bad person

01:23:24.020 i i'm not when people when you talk about god to people who don't believe in god they tend to think

01:23:29.920 you're a bit bonkers but but sincerely what i believe is that i the way that i try and live my

01:23:36.240 profound conviction as a traditional Catholic now, is I honestly try every day to be less bad.

01:23:43.840 And I think that's very realistic for me. And I think that's a very practical way to look at life.

01:23:48.340 And furthermore, if you think believing God is bonkers, have a look at what not believing in God

01:23:54.020 has produced around us. I'm not sure. I began life, you know, many years ago knowing an awful

01:24:02.440 lot of people who didn't believe in God. And I'm not sure I know any anymore. I think the world has

01:24:07.820 changed a lot. Oh, I agree. I mean, there was a friend of mine who came around. I don't go for

01:24:17.080 full-on proselytization for people. I rather prefer to show them the face of evil and let

01:24:23.520 them make their own mind. That's exactly right. One of my friends, and he is a dear friend now,

01:24:29.080 i'll tell you how i met him in a minute and it's a great surprise he probably didn't try and

01:24:32.980 strangle me to be honest but uh because it is funny but he said to me one day he said oh well

01:24:37.940 um i've looked at the world and it's basically evil and he and i said yes it is and he said well

01:24:44.740 if there's evil then there's and i said oh yes there it is now i just want to tell you that like

01:24:52.100 i was going we lived next to a park in london before i emigrated to england from london i'm

01:24:56.860 not from london i'm from the north my wife was from london so i had to live there and that kind

01:25:01.580 of vast roundabout full of kebab shops and so on so we actually lived next to a park it was quite

01:25:07.580 nice and i wasn't working i just i said to my wife look these are the precious years we'll just put

01:25:13.260 it on the credit card and i'll stay with you know the beautiful little boy that god's given us and

01:25:18.340 you know she nearly died delivering him so you know thank god thank god for that and so i was

01:25:23.360 over in the park with him when he was a toddler and you never see men with their own children at

01:25:30.740 that age on their own habitually sometimes it's nice but i saw this bloke and he was doing what

01:25:36.700 i did and he he had the usual expression of kind of if you like you know a wearisome duty on his

01:25:43.540 face as he's pushing this scooter around like going bar bar to the sheep you know you kind of

01:25:48.160 look at each other with a kind of recognition of a silent acknowledgement but i wasn't silent

01:25:53.200 i just marched up to him i said oh so you're a trans mummy are you just like me and honestly i

01:26:00.000 thought he was going to provide the form of customer feedback that i've become habituated

01:26:04.460 to now which is why my dentist is so well off but he didn't but he was seething and uh after that he

01:26:11.760 i realized why he was seething and uh i i helped him actually and he'd been run over by a drunken

01:26:18.160 driver because he used to be a really good cyclist and it nearly you know he crushed a bit of him he

01:26:22.680 was in a lot of chronic pain and I said well I've had a bad injury and I got into weightlifting

01:26:28.020 because one of my catholic friends is excellent at it and he taught me how to do it coached me

01:26:33.340 for years for nothing and I said come around to my house I've got the gear in the shed I'll show

01:26:37.980 you what to do and so I did and so now it helps you with pain management it makes you a lot stronger

01:26:44.740 and you you just get used to it really because weightlifting is painful and you're used to

01:26:49.020 suffering it changes your relationship to it if you just feel a lot better now he's not miserable

01:26:52.720 anymore and he obviously he's lovely and thankfully he didn't punch me in the face but he came around

01:26:58.160 instead for a cup of tea amazing amazing your story is amazing your views are true and so

01:27:08.860 beautifully expressed also hilarious and i am thrilled uh to know with dead certainty that

01:27:16.720 they will be reaching a lot of people um not just here but a lot of places i hope you'll come back

01:27:22.740 frank wright and talk again because that was wonderful oh lovely job yeah thank you for

01:27:30.180 having me on ah thank you the best oh may i just say one thing before we go of course in a time of

01:27:39.100 deepening spiritual and political and economic crisis i would like to remind everybody that

01:27:45.660 Again, you can't blame people alone, even your bitter political enemies, for being the way they are.

01:27:53.200 If we are going to do better, and we must do better, or we're all finished, that's the state we're in.

01:27:58.900 We must do better.

01:28:00.260 Try and develop the idea of being a social missionary.

01:28:03.400 Look at the idea of the 20th century as a vast revolution that tried to replace everything with itself,

01:28:09.000 and it's degraded our lives completely.

01:28:10.800 And look at these people, your bitter political enemies.

01:28:13.220 See them as casualties on the battlefield.

01:28:15.660 That's right.

01:28:16.320 Because it's a war in our civilization.

01:28:18.640 Where you can, when you can, wherever possible,

01:28:21.060 try and heal the sick and help the wounded.

01:28:23.680 And because we must do better than universal vengeance and moral degradation.

01:28:28.000 So thank you for having me on once again.

01:28:29.980 I'll shut up now.

01:28:31.020 That's the Christianity I believe in.

01:28:32.820 Amen.

01:28:33.460 Thank you.

01:28:34.160 That was wonderful.

01:28:36.680 Oh, well, again, thank you for having me on.

The Tucker Carlson Show - June 04, 2026

The Murder That Exposed the Godless System Replacing Christianity & Why You’re Not Allowed to Notice

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