The Tucker Carlson Show - Tim Dillon： Disney, Boomers, and the Creepy Corporations that Pretend to Love You

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00:00:30.540 do you have strong feelings about disney yeah i do it's terrible you think disney's terrible

00:00:38.880 i think it's become terrible i kind of agree with that but i can't quite articulate why

00:00:43.820 well it's lazy disney's lazy it's the only it's the you know it's like you know when people take

00:00:50.120 their kids on vacation there it's like i understand it but there's other places to go

00:00:54.740 that are real that have actual history you could teach your kids about the country you could teach

00:01:01.000 them about anything you could teach them about things that have actually happened i don't think

00:01:05.880 disney world is a terrible place to go but you shouldn't be doing it every year there's people

00:01:11.200 that go every year there's people that go without children there's people that go without children

00:01:15.620 why yes because people are sick i mean there's this whole you know there's this whole uh group

00:01:22.360 of disney adults people that really enjoy disney world they meet their wives at disney world they

00:01:27.020 meet their husbands at disney world and that yet somehow then not procreate uh and they love it and

00:01:32.400 they say they remain children forever and which i don't think is the goal of life um and yeah i just

00:01:38.800 think it's uh you know it's it's uh upsetting when i see it so it's like it's like an emotional

00:01:44.420 retardation that gets yeah you you're looking at people that are stunted um they're they're unable

00:01:50.840 for whatever reason to access other there's a lot of art in america there's you know a lot of literature

00:01:56.080 there's a lot of film it's not all cartoons it's not all disney not to take anything away from you know

00:02:03.420 a lot of the great disney classics but it's supposed to be the beginning of your journey and not the

00:02:08.620 whole thing you know what i mean like the little mermaid is supposed to start you off but then you

00:02:14.560 go and find other things and what's terribly uh depressing to me or disturbing or both is that

00:02:21.260 you have people that are still as into it as they were when they were five except they're 40 i think

00:02:28.860 that's a big problem and it's not cheap i mean i've never been no it's hot it's very hot and it's not

00:02:35.080 cheap and it's um they have all these meal plans now that they offer people which is like these

00:02:41.580 terrible you know kind of gross food that they'll give you throughout the day you know if you pay like

00:02:47.320 an all-inclusive fee someone will go and put a churro in your mouth every half hour uh and then you

00:02:53.080 have you know you know it's there's a lot of there's a lot of disney uh like people out there

00:02:59.500 talking about how to do the parks there are these people um uh plus size people that are now trying

00:03:06.740 to review disney rides to see if they fit in them uh there are people that i have youtube videos

00:03:12.600 dedicated to the type of shoes you have to wear at disney world because there's a lot of walking

00:03:17.960 there's people that go i love disney world but i refuse to walk is there a way can i get so i mean

00:03:23.640 it's um it's become very big with the maybe voluntarily disabled community where you have

00:03:33.340 is anyone voluntarily disabled it seems to be we have a few people i mean i'm not an olympic swimmer

00:03:41.460 i'm not i'm not going out there and you know shitting on people but i'm saying there are people

00:03:45.900 that seem more excited about the uh the uh scooters and the wheelchairs and everything like that

00:03:52.500 and a lot of them love disney world what's the connection just societal collapse here well

00:03:57.660 societal collapses i think the big connection but there's something about um being a child

00:04:05.660 forever and a place that tells you you should be a child forever and that it is good to have the

00:04:12.200 qualities of a child forever so it's like a diaper fetish it's kind of a diaper fetish it's kind of

00:04:16.400 like there was a woman who in new hampshire wanted to open a diaper spa where adults would

00:04:22.000 wear diapers because they have a some type of fetish where they like to be in diapers and this woman was

00:04:27.920 trying to open it in this tiny new hampshire town and many people in the town got mad at her you know

00:04:32.940 it's very hard to open a small business and nobody really wanted that and it was a a diaper spa i was for

00:04:40.460 it because i said if you make the migrants that are coming into this country work at the diaper spa

00:04:46.500 they'll just go to europe so i said we don't need a wall we just need to like kind of you know get

00:04:53.180 everyone over to the diaper spa but i put the kind of modern uh a lot of the modern disney world uh

00:05:02.040 cultural stuff kind of just above the diaper spa where you have people that are going to this place

00:05:08.920 where they feel like children i don't know what it is i i think you should go for your children it's an

00:05:15.380 experience for them when it becomes about you in any way i think it's sick

00:05:19.780 but it also seems like kind of important like this is a measure of something yes i do i mean i i think

00:05:27.860 that this is a weird there's a weird obsession uh with um you know this idea that you're like this is me

00:05:39.240 i have no shame and i'm you know there should be things i think that people are ashamed of or they

00:05:47.000 like quietly maybe if you love disney world and you're an adult you shouldn't announce it to the

00:05:52.720 world i don't need sweatshirts and t-shirts and tank tops and mickey hats and i don't need

00:05:57.280 to see on your social media how much you adore disney world you know and if you can't fit in a ride at

00:06:03.600 disney world just i don't need you to review that on youtube for everyone like there is something

00:06:09.920 about keeping some things close to the vest because they're shameful well because they're certainly not

00:06:17.080 ideal and the idea that it's you know this is not your best self that you're putting out there

00:06:22.780 and i understand as a comedian there's a lot of things that we do where we don't put out our best

00:06:26.940 self you know but then there are you know but we always try to make that funny and we make it funny and

00:06:31.200 we make a joke out of it but there are a lot of people out there now i feel like that are forcing

00:06:37.020 the world to accept them in their worst uh iteration if that makes any sense without admitting that that

00:06:45.460 iteration sucks yeah without admitting that that iteration at the very least needs some work

00:06:50.440 and i think there's a lot of people out there that are just like hey this is me this is it

00:06:54.780 that sounds like giving up there's a lot of giving up i think do you feel that around us people

00:07:01.040 are giving up i think there's a lot of people that don't see a future and technology has made the

00:07:08.720 world pretty isolating and i think uh which is the exact opposite of what it was intended yes i

00:07:15.620 remember that you're old enough to remember the promise of technology was to bring us together

00:07:19.820 everyone's gonna be together but it seems pretty isolating and i think a lot of people are out there

00:07:24.480 and they're not they don't see any future that they are excited about and they don't think they

00:07:32.080 can you know have a family or afford the standard of living that they would want a family to have and

00:07:39.400 yes so i think there are a lot of people out there that struggle with that for sure and technology is

00:07:43.720 related to that well i think technology has has has certainly it's lessened community and i think

00:07:50.280 physical communities have suffered a little bit because all of the the way that everyone grows up

00:07:56.380 now is pretty is pretty you know flattened everybody's been flattened by technology meaning

00:08:00.660 everybody's looking at the same things the same algorithms they're being fed the same stimuli in the

00:08:06.460 same inputs whereas when i grew up you would meet people from different regions of the country and

00:08:10.820 they grew up completely different yes and they had a different musical taste and they had uh completely

00:08:16.200 different uh you know histories and cultural influence and accents accents and everything

00:08:20.980 and everybody came together uh and and you know there was this really interesting cultural diffusion

00:08:26.220 that happened when you met someone from louisiana and someone from seattle washington now i gotta be

00:08:31.420 honest with you i feel like that's less true yeah i feel like it's less true because i think

00:08:35.080 everybody's kind of growing up with these same algorithms they're being fed the same things and when

00:08:39.600 you meet people they're not as interesting as they once were because you've all kind of had

00:08:45.800 a similar childhood whether you know it or not because you've been fed the exact same stimuli over

00:08:52.720 and over again every day on your phone which i mean even leaving aside the potential for like

00:08:59.080 controlling people's brains and making them obedient serfs which does seem like the point to me yeah it

00:09:04.800 homogenizes everything and makes everyone just sort of flat and boring it makes everybody boring and

00:09:10.240 it's one of the things that again you would think that the great promise of technology would be the

00:09:14.780 exact opposite which is that everybody was going to be more unique or more interesting uh but that

00:09:20.960 hasn't happened you know well i sort of noticed this with the early apple ads yeah and the idea

00:09:26.100 behind the personal computer was this is your you know window into the world but it's also a way to

00:09:30.240 broadcast your own unique qualities and you're you you're distinct from everyone else and then you

00:09:35.560 look at the apple store and everyone's dressed exactly the same they have the same nose ring the same t-shirt

00:09:39.980 yeah the the store store to me just screamed obey right well that's what it seems like yeah there

00:09:47.140 seems to be a comfort in that type of making everything very clean and homogenized yes where

00:09:56.560 everybody is kind of you know expected to have the same value system and that value system is kind of

00:10:05.000 being given to them i was really struck last night at the dinner that we had yeah by how many people

00:10:11.200 you know and how many places you are yeah well all the time like all the time yeah just on tour but

00:10:17.140 like you seem to be talking to people yeah and that was the opposite of the life i thought comedians

00:10:23.140 lived where you're sort of alone online in your hotel room well how do you do that yeah well i'm i i can't

00:10:29.300 speak for all comedians but i know a lot of us do travel a lot a lot of us talk to but i've always just

00:10:33.200 been very curious about the world so i'm incredibly curious about why things are the way they are

00:10:37.520 why certain people and certain ideas become popular why certain things seem to be inevitable

00:10:43.800 um how the society is set up the things that we know the things we don't know the kind of hidden

00:10:49.880 you know power structures that we start to realize how enduring they are as we've been older um you

00:10:57.540 don't realize that when you're young everything when you're young seems to be you know i remember

00:11:01.480 watching saturday night live as a kid which was a hilarious show that i loved and it was bush and

00:11:06.500 gore and it was very funny and it was these two guys uh and you know we had will farrell i forgot

00:11:12.460 i think daryl hammond did al gore and it was really funny and you thought that was what the world was it

00:11:18.040 was these just we have two people they have opposing ideas yes we all go vote and then one of those people

00:11:24.940 becomes a president for four years and then that person enacts uh an agenda that people either

00:11:30.540 disagree with or agree with to you know and that person has varying degrees of success and then

00:11:35.080 they're judged four years later that i thought that's what everyone thought i think my understanding

00:11:41.240 now this country is so much deeper and more complex and more interesting than it it uh you know

00:11:46.460 originally was because now i i believe that those things are only part of the larger story of of how

00:11:54.880 the country actually operates what what changed your view like when was the moment when you realized

00:12:00.200 that's not actually what's happening i was i read a book called family of secrets which was an

00:12:06.240 interesting book by a guy named russ baker and he wrote about the bush family and it was about

00:12:09.880 uh you know basically a lot of these events from from jfk to watergate that he had kind of this

00:12:18.100 alternate understanding of how these events had happened and he had gone and interviewed lots of

00:12:24.380 people and he had researched i think the book took him about five years and i it was a came out in i

00:12:29.940 think 2007 or 2009 maybe and i was reading it i was in the mortgage business it had fallen apart

00:12:35.760 and there was nothing to do so we'd all sit in our offices and kind of fuck off because it was

00:12:40.480 nothing to do so i was reading this book and um it was really did you get it of barnes and noble

00:12:45.880 or you know it was just a it was a really yeah it was just a book on your own with yeah just on

00:12:50.020 my own and me and a friend were reading it and we each got them and i was reading it and i i started

00:12:55.200 to analyze things in a way that i never had before and basically i was it was it was kind of this

00:13:01.840 light that went off in my head and i'm like well what if everyone's lying you know what if everyone's

00:13:06.780 not telling the truth what would it look like then what would it look like if everyone was just making

00:13:12.020 things up or telling you what you wanted to hear and i mean it was like you know it really is

00:13:17.820 an interesting way to look at things it's a bit cynical but when you start looking at all these

00:13:23.900 things you go it doesn't even make sense it doesn't make sense that you'd have a country out of

00:13:28.980 all these billionaires and then they would be told what to do by these people in congress that

00:13:34.940 have no money and some of them are are you know relatively uneducated you have all these billionaires

00:13:40.800 that are you know controlling large sectors of the economy but they're just going to take edicts

00:13:45.620 from like the guy the local milkman that ran for congress and georgia and the he's going to tell

00:13:52.000 those guys what to do that never made sense to me and it also never made sense to me that when i

00:13:56.560 watched snl as a kid you know i'd watch these debates and they were almost identical to the

00:14:02.180 ones on uh tv they were kind of silly and they were you know you'd have these two guys bush wasn't a

00:14:08.300 great speaker and gore was kind of insufferable and they did these characters really well but i'm like

00:14:13.200 it's so weird that a comedy show is almost identical to the actual world that we live in i'm like there's

00:14:19.320 no way that that's the only level of power in the country there's very little chance that that's how

00:14:26.820 it is and then you know you start reading you read books like the devil's chessboard by david talbot

00:14:32.240 about the creation of the national security state about the dullest brothers and how influential they

00:14:36.220 were and you you read all these books he founded salon.com and stuff like that and then wrote that

00:14:40.820 book it was completely uh you know removed from polite society but you read all these books you get

00:14:46.480 interested in it it was just very interesting to me you know i was an actor as a little kid

00:14:51.280 and why you know what kind of actor you know not a successful one but my parents would like

00:14:56.540 you know take me into the city for auditions i wouldn't get anything because i was you know i was

00:15:02.260 a cute little kid but i had like a gravelly voice and i it just didn't work right oh you didn't even

00:15:06.680 smoke and you talk like that they knew it was coming my body knew i was gonna start so they prepared

00:15:12.920 but i realized how acting was interesting because in hollywood you know i was really close to getting

00:15:18.440 a job once but i was four inches too tall and the kid that got it was four inches shorter and he

00:15:23.700 looked better next to the star of the show was grace under fire brett butler it was a sitcom and you

00:15:29.560 realize how arbitrary a lot of these decisions are that are made and when you're a little kid you become

00:15:36.360 a little cynical because you're you're you're auditioning for all this stuff and you're looking at the

00:15:40.760 way and sometimes like the director's son gets the job and sometimes like you don't even know why

00:15:47.620 you know you you didn't get the job you did a great job and you're you're basically as a as a young

00:15:52.800 person you're you're aware of the you know the limits of like certain types of meritocracy where

00:16:00.320 it's like there's stuff behind the scenes happening and i think you know i started to think about

00:16:06.040 politics in that way and it was funny to me it was much funnier did you have anyone to talk to

00:16:10.720 about this friends people that i grew up with that you know might have been into it too you know but

00:16:16.360 it wasn't it was kind of this was pre-2016 oh yeah this was like 2009 10 you know and it would just

00:16:24.800 seem very funny what did you make of 9 11 through that lens well when i was young i was very supportive

00:16:29.860 of like the iraq war and george w bush you know but i was you know on cocaine and that did that help

00:16:35.920 that helps it really did um it's a patriotic drug um to be honest but i was believing everything that

00:16:43.040 everyone said we were invaded by these people and there we were invaded because they don't have

00:16:46.740 shopping malls in afghanistan and they don't have mcdonald's and they can't get chicken nuggets like

00:16:50.980 i do with my friends they can't smoke pot in the mall so they all decided to kill us well that's

00:16:54.940 terrible so we have to go over there and build shopping malls so that these guys can go hang out and

00:16:59.540 you know uh get uh you know whatever you know uh they need so that they're not miserable and all

00:17:06.700 that stuff and i believed that i believed all of it and i was a fervent advocate of that because it

00:17:12.720 made a lot of sense i'm like we've got a good thing they've got a thing that's not too good we have

00:17:18.460 to go and help them and it was this uh this thing where i just believed that and i believed in it

00:17:25.320 and i voted for bush and i thought uh that you know my first vote was for bush it was the second

00:17:30.720 term and i had friends that went off to iraq i'm like we got to do this we have to you know we can't

00:17:35.260 dishonor their memory by by pulling out and doing all this stuff i really believe that i've now

00:17:40.540 completely you know switched i now see it as a complete disaster a huge mistake and error and as

00:17:48.660 far as 9-11 at that point i was you know believed that it was exactly how they said it happened and now

00:17:53.100 you know quite frankly i don't know i mean i it it seems improbable that all of these things happened

00:18:00.000 the way that they said that they happened um i don't know what exactly happened and people have

00:18:05.720 attacked me for saying that you know because i just i question now more than i did you may have

00:18:11.580 come to the obvious conclusion that the real debate is not between republican and democrat or socialist

00:18:16.600 and capitalists right left the real battles between people who are lying on purpose and people who are

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00:18:42.620 behind the scenes footage of what actually happens in this barn uh when only an iphone is running

00:18:47.460 tucker carlson.com slash podcast you will not regret it well you've been attacked for admitting that

00:18:55.240 you're agnostic on it yeah people will will call you names and you know try to use that as some type

00:19:02.000 of and you know about this people calling you names when you say yeah i don't really know what

00:19:05.680 happened on 9-11 they go they try to use that as a pejorative against you and say you're

00:19:11.400 a conspiracy theorist you're a nut job you're whatever and you go okay i mean it's those

00:19:16.600 things don't mean but do you ever think to yourself like anyone who believes like the story at the

00:19:21.340 white house press briefing is a fucking moron yes i think that and it's funny to me how wrong we are

00:19:26.880 it being wrong is funny so that's one of the reasons i became interested in this dimension of

00:19:31.860 power in america is because i i actually you either you laugh or you cry and i started to laugh and i

00:19:37.960 think how wrong everybody is so how do you i mean your insight which is really smart yeah that you

00:19:43.080 know the former milkman from georgia is probably not giving orders to the oligarch that's right in

00:19:47.300 there like that doesn't actually make any sense that makes no sense right um how do you think things

00:19:52.940 really work well i mean i think that you have um a group of people that have a lot of power and a lot

00:20:02.280 of influence and they probably have different ideas they're probably not a monolith they probably

00:20:07.020 are different religions and races and they have to but they they're interested in preserving their

00:20:12.060 level of power i think that becomes their main their main um you know objective and i think this is

00:20:18.440 the thing that they all kind of relate on whether they sue each other or dislike each other or have

00:20:23.260 wars with each other in the press and we tend to think that these are blood feuds and these are and

00:20:28.620 and probably some of them are but at the end of the day they are all interested in retaining their

00:20:35.120 level of power in american society and all over the world and i think those people operate uh in a lot

00:20:42.640 of different ways but a huge way i believe that they operate is subverting uh the democratic process

00:20:49.780 here and all over the world meaning like the will of the people cannot get in the way of whatever they

00:20:56.700 want to do so i think they have to disguise that agenda in any way that they can you know the new

00:21:02.500 thing now for example is um which i you know this is very you know you know what today i'm i'm i'm in

00:21:08.880 a diner and i'm watching i'm having breakfast and i'm watching you know this terrible airstrike in in

00:21:15.880 rafa this this you know this place i didn't even know existed a month ago right i'm not like a

00:21:20.440 and this guy's holding this headless child it's it's it's horrific and we're watching it in the

00:21:25.660 and and um you're watching it and listen i think israel should exist i believe they have a right

00:21:32.560 to exist anti-semitism exists blah blah blah i know that it's not all great over there but you're

00:21:38.660 watching this and then you go this seems unreal it seems very extreme and then the position of people

00:21:46.740 on the internet uh that will are supporting this no matter what without any is well do you know

00:21:54.360 the how hamas treats gay people and women and you go how dumb do i look how stupid do i how stupid do

00:22:02.960 i look that this is the argument how dumb do i look that you are expecting me to believe

00:22:09.420 that american foreign policy has been about the rights of women oh and is that why we were in

00:22:16.560 afghanistan it had nothing to do with mining rights or lithium ion or any of that stuff it has nothing

00:22:21.460 to do with the strategic importance of certain locations it all has to do with teaching girls

00:22:26.440 protecting gays and protecting gay people and we're teaching women to read it's crazy it's crazy but

00:22:31.820 that emotional appeal works on people and they go well i guess we have to kill children then

00:22:37.500 that baby is homophobic kill and you start going it doesn't make any sense it doesn't make any sense

00:22:44.200 from a logical standpoint it makes absolutely no sense people can debate about israel or what we should

00:22:50.100 be doing or giving them or funding right but so again it's that you're taking this you're shoehorning

00:22:55.720 this narrative into this conflict and it's it's i think the way a lot of these people that have

00:23:04.580 an agenda operate where they go we need to present this ukraine war as a way that we are fighting

00:23:15.700 a murderous dictator who's going to take over all of europe and even though there's not there hasn't

00:23:20.980 wasn't evidence of that no no evidence it's really not a ton of evidence no there's almost none you have

00:23:27.840 to believe that now i live in you know beverly hills california i live outside of the city limits

00:23:32.020 but i say i do and um the worst people in the world you know in beverly hills right i mean

00:23:36.860 monster people like they make valets cry get my effing car you know what i mean like people jump

00:23:43.340 out of windows they walk over their bodies to get in their porsche it's crazy and that happened in

00:23:48.000 the building i lived in but so these someone jumped out the window yeah this hollywood producer steve

00:23:51.920 bing he killed himself i knew steve and he jumped out of the window and then i think steve killed

00:23:56.080 himself i don't know i don't know but i did was a great guy i it's sad i have no idea what happened

00:24:00.920 steve was uh the biggest donor to the democratic party under clinton yeah that's a deadly move huh

00:24:06.860 well it's a little deadly and steve began i know because he told me yeah and changing his views on

00:24:12.740 things oh and then the next thing you know steve bing has committed suicide and yeah i don't know

00:24:18.060 but a friend of mine who's very close to steve bing yeah and i was friends with steve bing said

00:24:22.500 that was not no that's not what happened that's very possible your building i know where that is

00:24:26.860 so i used to live there and i moved out of there because it has a dark energy can you imagine did

00:24:32.100 you really move because it had a dark yeah yeah i couldn't really sleep and friends would come over

00:24:36.520 and we'd sit in the living room one of these apartments and they'd go what's this and we're not

00:24:40.780 those people we're not like crystals people we're not you know you sound spiritually sensitive yeah

00:24:46.020 i guess i'm sensitive enough to realize it was just something and then there was like a lot of

00:24:50.300 like junkies but you know beating each other up and beating up their girlfriends and stuff and the

00:24:54.680 cops would have to come all the time not a great building i won't say which one it is i don't want

00:24:58.280 to be sued but um because i did trash them on the podcast and they did they were upset um but it was

00:25:05.500 not a great building but the same people who would walk over and you know i talked to the valets you

00:25:09.760 know the morning after that happened there were people going oh that's terrible anyway it's the blue

00:25:13.340 porsche let's go so this is the type of person that we're dealing with in beverly hills

00:25:18.780 and you need people that are kind of like that to a degree i mean you know you do need people that

00:25:25.300 are not you know singing kumbaya all the time but let's just say these are not incredibly sensitive

00:25:30.440 souls yes they're living in beverly hills right i remember everyone had a ukrainian flag immediately

00:25:37.100 after the war started like they had been shipped well because they care yeah unlike you they care

00:25:43.440 yeah they care about democracy right so all these people who like you know kick their maid down the

00:25:48.640 stairs i'm laughing because i grew up around people like that in southern california so i know you're

00:25:56.340 right people that like scream and yell at people in restaurants when something's not macrobiotic or

00:26:02.600 they apparently became all humanitarians in uh the span of one night and then the ukraine flags

00:26:11.440 roll over the place and if you asked any question about the ukraine or what was going on or why

00:26:18.060 russia went in or why they would be in nato because they hate our freedoms yeah right so it was the same

00:26:23.500 kind of argument it's the same very strange manichaean right totally evil argument totally right and and you

00:26:29.560 would just say you know i had dinner with rfk and his wife who i adore and his son was there and his son

00:26:36.840 served in ukraine yes and connor he's a brave kid god bless him you know um i mean hey god you know

00:26:42.480 everyone does something right of course and he was talking about it and and he said you know and

00:26:47.640 everyone at the table was you know saying you know how hard it is to to um you know we're sitting in

00:26:52.700 malibu to dinner they go you know how hard it you know that's it's serving the ukraine i go yeah but

00:26:55.860 i'm defending vladimir putin in malibu at a dinner party that's actually tougher to be honest

00:27:00.460 it's actually you're the one who needs the metal i actually need the metal and i should no but it's

00:27:05.980 so to me i just thought this is very funny what shuts down comedy is fundamentalism of course and

00:27:11.980 so when people say to you you can't ask questions you can't know things uh it's you know that's why

00:27:16.860 every dictator in the world hates comedians they don't want anybody asking any questions about

00:27:21.580 anything and they shut everything down and that's why people get they get offended very easily usually

00:27:26.680 have something to hide the coolest people in the world are the people who will poke fun out on

00:27:30.420 the show and they don't care and they think it's fun and they don't think this guy's a buffoon and

00:27:34.580 who cares you know or maybe there's some truth in it that i should learn from or whatever or that

00:27:39.280 perhaps but like when you make fun of people and they lose their mind it always suggests something

00:27:44.040 right so every time that i would ask about the ukraine i go why exactly uh we've never heard of the

00:27:50.620 ukraine and every vice documentary about the ukraine was that they were a white supremacist neo-nazi country

00:27:55.940 yeah every vice documentary was like a bunch of people in the ukraine walking around

00:28:00.260 you with ss tattoos and shields and i go on and these people just overnight became like great allies

00:28:07.780 and like brave people that we loved so it was like okay listen i feel bad their country got invaded and

00:28:13.780 they're doing what they have to do and whatever but i just don't know you know it's just very interesting

00:28:18.600 to hear people that have never thought i mean these people that i live around have never had a thought

00:28:22.720 about another human being in their life they've never had a thought and in fact they wouldn't even

00:28:27.320 be effective at what they do if they did these agents and managers they can't see it was a human

00:28:31.400 being they have to see was a product and that's what makes them good at what they do of course they

00:28:35.480 have to see was a product you can't work in a slaughterhouse if you love cows that's correct

00:28:39.200 you can't you can't pet the cow and go no are you tired do you need some time off how's your wife

00:28:44.880 you have to look at the cow and go it's a hundred grand get on the plane and if you don't like it do

00:28:50.240 drugs do drugs um so what happens is they're the worst people i've ever known they're the worst

00:28:58.740 agents and they're always this like the black sheep of a very wealthy family everyone else is

00:29:04.180 successful so it's always like you have a guy when you have an agent they go my brother works at

00:29:08.920 goldman sachs my sister is a neurosurgeon and i do this because i have no talent or skills except i was

00:29:16.280 born rich and i'm a sociopath and i don't have any educational background but i was never going to

00:29:22.900 work at popeyes making chicken sandwiches so i sit here at a desk and that's who most of them are

00:29:29.520 can i ask you something it's funny in the last couple years i've you know obviously i know a lot

00:29:33.620 of people have been canceled sure you know had these fake scandals yes wherever they came come from

00:29:39.720 um and then every one of them has been dropped by his agent and in a couple cases that agent has

00:29:44.820 been jay sure is i think and but other agents too and a buddy of mine said to me well i'm i can't

00:29:51.940 believe this happened like i i was really close to my agent like i know his kids yeah i went to his

00:29:56.820 house all the time right and the second the person had any problem at all the agent issues a statement

00:30:02.400 like distancing himself from his own client yes adding to the dog pile well this is what happens this is

00:30:09.240 what they what they have to do but shouldn't that be a death penalty offense well the agent like how

00:30:13.980 can who would hire an agent who did that everyone why because what happens is everybody in that town

00:30:21.560 is full of shit okay everybody and and everybody kind of goes on that like everybody like it's the

00:30:30.400 type of town where if someone calls you up it goes so and so died you go yeah okay no one believes

00:30:34.960 anything you go sure they did like it's a complete uh you know it's a fun house it's a hall of mirrors

00:30:42.380 it's a it's a place so the agent that drops you in many cases will call you and go hey i'm really

00:30:48.580 sorry the higher ups or will drop me if i don't drop you everyone's on the chopping block there from

00:30:54.360 the ceo of paramount to the person who's working making uh you know uh salads for their boss at caa or

00:31:01.500 uta or wme everyone's on the chopping block there's nobody there that really uh everybody

00:31:07.660 just goes with the wind so if somebody doesn't like a comedian uh if like the consensus is that

00:31:13.680 that comedian's bad everyone's like they're bad they're a demon from hell and then if it swings the

00:31:17.940 other way and that comedian starts doing really well they're like they've had a great year there's

00:31:22.240 nothing behind their eyes there's nothing there and and that's just the accepted reality of the town

00:31:28.480 so that's why and it's like no hard feeling you're right you're having a human reaction

00:31:32.880 yeah loyalty is so important to a video game

00:31:34.960 that's what's happening you're having a human reaction to a video game which is what it is

00:31:43.960 it's just everybody's plugged into this matrix nothing's real what people do is real like the

00:31:51.040 comedy and the movies and the art and the whatever and the books and all the things that people create

00:31:55.240 but how people in the business handle them and respond to them is dictated 100 by the winds

00:32:02.920 that blow in so if the woke wind blows in they go we're doing woke get every fat woman get every

00:32:09.620 minority they're on television i want women so fat they can't breathe on their own i want them in

00:32:15.660 wheelchairs i want them to have one leg and i want them to be indigenous go and then when that makes no

00:32:21.200 money they go great white guys let's do that white guys are back and then if that if people get mad

00:32:27.240 again and they want to they don't believe in it the people there don't really believe in anything

00:32:32.320 it's just like they're just waiting to see which way they can go some of them like some of them like

00:32:40.660 comedy like some of them like kind of like comedy and that's the best you could say for some of them

00:32:45.980 have you ever in all your time in la experienced authentic human emotion

00:32:50.120 one time i went to a thai restaurant it was closed and it was very sad

00:32:56.100 usually you have to look at other races for human emotions like mexicans yes you know what i mean like

00:33:02.420 you who are like going like usually coming out of a church or doing something like that um uh it's a

00:33:08.300 very weird place i've learned to love parts of it and hate parts of it it's yes very different from

00:33:13.180 where i lived it's these vast canyons and it's you know a mountain's very empty and it's very hollow

00:33:18.080 and people are very passive aggressive and kind of laid back and they're not as intense i grew up in

00:33:23.840 new york and long island with a lot of intense people and there's a lot of like uh you know and

00:33:29.400 it's just a town that functions primarily with with the the only rule there is that everything's

00:33:37.780 always great so everybody is always like things are great how are you oh good like no matter what's

00:33:43.700 going on in their lives they want to present this thing everything's great because you want to be

00:33:48.280 near winners you want to be near good people and people that are doing well and everybody just has

00:33:54.460 to present that side of themselves at all times which is why people say oh it's fake um and that it's

00:34:01.720 you know it's not real but it it is it is that's kind of the the guiding principle not to get too

00:34:07.400 dark but what if things aren't great like things aren't great for a lot of people things are not

00:34:11.720 great who do you talk to great question i mean i think there are like little groups of people that

00:34:18.240 have honest moments i've had honest moments there with people but the people that i've had honest

00:34:23.260 moments with you know it's it's very funny because it's the only place where someone will meet up

00:34:29.600 with you um and like look around and you think they're selling you heroin but then they're just

00:34:36.380 going to say something remotely conservative you know it's really yeah you know people kind of just

00:34:41.840 like oh like you know the border is oh it doesn't look good somebody like biden is a little old but it is

00:34:49.080 weird because everybody's like terrified of like you know but that's changing now because i think

00:34:54.600 the institutions have less power and the internet has grown and people are more free so i think it

00:35:01.520 is changing and there are definitely opportunities for people to kind of connect with an audience outside

00:35:06.700 of that system and i think that system is now also responding very positively for the first time to

00:35:11.700 people that have gained an audience on the internet i think they're starting to understand the the value

00:35:16.600 of that and that it isn't this world in which everybody's good or bad or perfect or not there are

00:35:22.120 people that make mistakes and there's people that also are you know really good people that are not

00:35:29.220 reflected by a certain action you know what i mean like there's this idea that like people are entire

00:35:36.480 people they're not just one thing you didn't like that's exactly right and i think that's going to be

00:35:42.440 i think that's what's the future hopefully is this nuance and complexity whereas we went through a

00:35:47.800 period where it was very simple and everybody was like bad good ally not enemy you know now i think

00:35:54.840 we're gonna go oh that guy and like take a beat and be like what's she about and take a breath and

00:35:59.960 i do it all the time with like treating people as human beings treating them with human beings and i do

00:36:03.820 it all the time with people that i completely disagree with on everything yeah me too person's

00:36:07.780 psychotic but i take a step back and i go let me look at them as a human being and not just a

00:36:14.220 collection of tweets that make me want to vomit i want to ask you that but before we pass on from

00:36:19.780 la i just yeah i haven't lived there in many years sure but i visit overrun with homeless people

00:36:25.340 addicts mostly but also non-addicts just a lot of people living outdoors yeah really sad visible

00:36:30.460 sign of collapse in my view but it's all black and all white yeah pretty much and la i think is

00:36:37.480 majority hispanic city it's a white hispanic city but i don't see any or many hispanics living on the

00:36:44.780 street what is almost none almost none so in a city this majority mexican origin yeah and there's

00:36:51.440 nobody like that living on the street like what why well i think if you look at is they're rich

00:36:57.160 no i think this is just a lot of these homeless encampments are open air drug markets yes people

00:37:02.860 don't want to talk about it people don't want to of course you know malign people that are homeless

00:37:07.840 that aren't on drugs and of course there are people that are homeless that aren't on drugs but i will

00:37:11.660 tell you this everybody in la has observed people that are homeless that have mental issues and some

00:37:19.240 of those mental issues are brought on or exacerbated by drug use this is just plain and simple this

00:37:25.560 doesn't say that all poor people are drug addicts no one's saying that no one's saying that you have to

00:37:30.880 be a drug addict to end up homeless what people are saying let me just say yeah since both of us

00:37:35.300 are sober for that's correct yeah and off drugs and alcohol i think we have the right actually

00:37:40.520 absolutely to assess this and that's right let's stop the bullshit that's right and and all of the

00:37:45.200 people that are struggling with addiction have not been helped by the people whose job it is to

00:37:53.760 help them and the government's job that's right is to provide a safe environment for everyone for

00:37:59.200 people that are addicted to drugs to people that aren't addicted to drugs so the way to provide

00:38:03.320 a safe environment for people that are addicted to drugs is not permit them to live on the street

00:38:07.480 and use drugs in a tent exactly it is not to permit uh people to use uh fentanyl on the street and to

00:38:14.320 uh overdose on the street and die and this is not a compassionate thing and this is not a good policy

00:38:20.660 um if you had a niece or nephew who addicted to drugs and you may

00:38:24.880 yeah would you give them money for drugs and let them live on the street no i've had members

00:38:29.520 of my own family that that's what i'm saying we all have can't do it

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00:40:16.000 there's a lot of excitement there's something weird i remember when they broke up this homeless

00:40:19.680 encampment in echo park yeah a lot of people were protesting it's very excited and they were like

00:40:25.760 and there's like psychotic you know people are nuts there so then people go well i go buy things

00:40:30.320 there this be to help i buy little lanyards and stuff that they're selling i go do you think this

00:40:36.240 is a long-term solution when you have this homeless encampment in a park and then people treating it

00:40:40.960 like a farmer's market all these like wealthy white people that want to help are going there giving them

00:40:46.320 money for heroin and buying an avocado or some crazy thing and i don't even know what's what people were

00:40:52.240 selling there but when the cops broke it up there was a lot of uh tension in the community because the

00:40:57.840 community was against it they didn't want the homeless encampment broken up they were very angry

00:41:02.480 they were like how dare these fascists break up this homeless encampment again where people were

00:41:07.280 overdosing their own neighborhood yes they want it that's the thing i was standing the other day

00:41:12.560 in san francisco and this woman said to me i said she was you know i go yeah the city is you know

00:41:17.440 falling apart and i go the mayor in london breed i go i don't know what she's really doing she goes

00:41:22.640 she goes yep she's trying to criminalize addiction we went down that road i'm like wait a minute so you're

00:41:27.680 your take is that the mayor of san francisco is too conservative because you're trying to

00:41:34.720 criminalize it i'm like you got to criminalize the behaviors that are often inherent with addiction

00:41:40.800 yes you know robbing people yes selling drugs you know uh crimes that involve procuring drugs

00:41:49.840 trafficking people like there's all these things that happen and you know you just there's something

00:41:55.600 that goes on and it's on the west coast more than the east coast for sure where people don't

00:42:04.560 understand the value of of of of standards being enforced they don't see it they don't get it they

00:42:17.440 think that it's a completely uh you know uh insensitive uh way to look at the situation and

00:42:25.360 saying like we have a standard you don't sleep in a tent you don't camp on the street there are

00:42:29.920 homeless shelters you got to go we have project room key you got to go to a hotel room but if you're

00:42:34.720 going to participate in that program you have to submit to drug testing and counseling because we

00:42:38.560 can't have people using drugs in that program and providing drugs to other people we're not going to

00:42:43.760 pay people to commit suicide we're not we're not going to pay people to kill themselves on the

00:42:47.120 street and that's a standard and we're forcing that standard and that's people for whatever

00:42:52.080 reason don't seem to believe that that is but maybe they're the ones who lack compassion like

00:42:56.720 again would you treat a loved one the way they treat the so-called home no no it's very interesting

00:43:01.920 i don't know what it is maybe they have this freak weird fetish with people dying all around them i

00:43:06.480 don't know what it's very sick i'm very honest i know hispanic why no mexicans in the city well

00:43:11.280 majority mexican i think yeah and there are all kinds of problems in mexican neighborhoods sure

00:43:15.280 a lot of poverty yeah gangs you know a lot of problems but they come to california to be homeless

00:43:20.880 in california well maybe that's it because of the the weather and then there's programs shouldn't

00:43:25.360 someone study what the mexicans are doing and like maybe do that yes i mean our governor lives on

00:43:29.760 a vineyard so good luck but um you know good luck about the studying happening um yeah you do not see a

00:43:36.720 ton of you really don't you don't way disproportionate to the population way way

00:43:42.480 disparate well it's also you don't see a lot of mexican people not working that's what i'm saying

00:43:46.160 so maybe the solution is not working is not is not actually having an effect a lot of the white

00:43:52.320 people no one has a job even the ones that have money they sit around they kind of have smoothies

00:43:57.600 they what is that they float around i don't know but no one really works i noticed around for cafes

00:44:03.040 they have like kind of fake meetings they take meetings all the talk to another person and that's

00:44:06.720 a meeting and they they go what about you know what about this and what do you think's going on and

00:44:11.200 they have coffee and they go this coffee is not as good as the last and you know it's no one seems

00:44:17.360 to be working where's all the money come from i don't know i have no idea the ccp i know i don't

00:44:22.240 know for real though i don't know who's floating it i mean usually when i have a lazy friend you go back

00:44:27.840 in their family lineage someone got a bag of money somewhere yeah the dad the grandpa the great

00:44:32.720 grandpa someone's got money somewhere i don't know i mean with la you meet a lot of people

00:44:37.360 that are drifting around and they have they're aimless and but but this is very expensive especially

00:44:43.920 very expensive and i don't think that the mexican culture is is catholic culture it's a religious

00:44:48.400 culture it's a culture of working it's a culture of of parties and food and like enjoying life and

00:44:54.880 getting the most out of life but it doesn't seem to be a culture that i would associate with aimlessness

00:44:59.200 no it doesn't seem aimless at all it seems to be pretty you know and i mean i'm sure there are

00:45:04.560 problems in every community but there's a lot of aimlessness it's like you know that's the thing

00:45:08.720 of people people talk about people talk about race and all this stuff but it's like you know

00:45:13.600 the white people in the west coast are maybe the most damaging group of people to civil society i've

00:45:20.320 ever seen in my life i mean when you talk about the people that live in seattle and portland

00:45:24.640 the things that laws that they pass and favor and i've never seen a group of people wreak more

00:45:30.160 havoc on a civil society in my life than the west coast of the united states what what's the motive

00:45:36.640 there do you think i don't know i don't know if it's no sun i don't know what it is i i don't know

00:45:40.560 what it is i i just know that they're trying to destroy things they're trying to destroy things in

00:45:45.120 portland there was like a van this woman like driving around a van and just shooting people up it was

00:45:49.840 called a stabbing wagon where they're just shooting up drug addicts on the street and it was crazy it

00:45:55.200 was like insane and this was like and then they just reversed at portland's like you know hey they

00:45:59.840 were like but this is actually you don't have to be for the drug war which i'm really for sure you

00:46:04.640 know hassling people for partying at home even though i'm sober yeah against that sure but if you

00:46:10.240 get to a place where some girl is shooting people up yes narcotics like she should be in prison there's

00:46:15.120 always a limit right because these people they have all these ideas and then what happens is like a few

00:46:19.440 people die in front of them in a whole foods yeah and they start going well maybe maybe like it is

00:46:28.320 and when someone dies in a whole foods in front of them they start going you know what

00:46:34.000 because the consequences for a lot of these people are just so far removed that they're just not

00:46:38.400 present they're just not they're behind a gate they're somewhere you know 40 minutes out of the

00:46:42.640 city whatever it is and they just kind of don't care but then people start you know dying in whole

00:46:47.120 foods and then they start going yeah maybe this isn't ideal this might not be great so it takes

00:46:52.320 that though it takes something extreme like that for these people to kind of wake up so obviously i'm

00:46:58.720 a bad person but i i don't want the pivot to happen without someone being punished for this

00:47:04.640 yeah and as someone who grew up out there when it was really idyllic it was sort of peak human

00:47:08.480 civilization in 1975 in laurel canyon right um and now it's dystopian it's like someone should have to

00:47:16.320 be held to account for this pay the price for that someone they won't they'll be like

00:47:20.240 actually like i was never for that it's like the covet facts i was yeah well i always had concerns no

00:47:23.840 you didn't yeah i mean it's interesting do you think they would treat the internet the way they

00:47:28.240 treat the real world like all these people who they love how functional their sites are

00:47:34.720 anyone that says anything gets banned immediately everything's very clean they work very well you

00:47:41.040 can access them pretty easily they work a lot on the user experience how's the user experience

00:47:46.480 walking down the street how's the 405 in the castro how's the 405 how's the user experience there

00:47:52.400 how are you interfacing with the person who just od'd in whole foods like apply all of the same

00:48:00.080 things uh to the real world they just don't seem to care that's a brilliant observation they seem

00:48:05.760 not to give a they seem to care mainly about the digital world in which they're creating and ushering

00:48:11.120 people into at a very rapid pace and they don't seem to care about the real world and if i was a

00:48:17.280 conspiracy nut i might say that the worst of real world is the more people are dependent on the

00:48:25.360 digital world and the quicker you can get them all there that might be if i was you know having fun

00:48:32.080 i might so you might like shut down the entire u.s economy and force everyone to stay indoors for a

00:48:36.480 year seems like it might be a decent plan but would that actually work would people choose amazon over

00:48:42.080 like local retailers do you think yeah yeah you know you could transfer you could cancel rent and

00:48:47.920 then transfer all that wealth from local landlords and demonize them to corporate

00:48:52.000 landlords oh now own a lot of the united states and if you've ever had a local landlord which i

00:48:57.920 have you're much better off i've been broke for years i was a comedian you're much better off sitting

00:49:02.960 down with someone face to face like this and going i can get it thursday then you are dealing with black

00:49:08.160 rock so they're not as compassionate they seem not to be they seem not to be so this idea that we

00:49:14.240 demonized anybody that owned a two-family house and we said look at this scumbag landlord and they own a

00:49:20.480 three-family house where they live in one of the units and the other two units are people that they

00:49:25.520 rent to and we said look at these people they're pieces you know what happened all the corporate

00:49:30.560 landlords bought everything own everything and are raising the price of residential real estate for

00:49:37.200 everybody that you know is trying to buy a house so it's it's weird where we do because we've got i never

00:49:42.480 hear anyone talk about no one talks about no one cares no one talks about the fact that most of the new

00:49:47.040 new constructions um in london at one point it was sixty percent it might be more now or less but

00:49:52.240 at one point it was about sixty percent of all new constructions i bet it's higher now are being bought

00:49:57.120 by foreign nationals uh with llcs they're not living there that's doing in new york i mean they're doing

00:50:02.800 it in all of these cities uh most of these buildings you look at new york billionaires row there's four

00:50:08.640 lights on this huge skyscraper who's there no one's home there's no school bus no one's taking their

00:50:13.120 kids to school it's you know a guy that comes in and is laundering money through real estate uh in uh

00:50:20.080 cities like new york and london and places that so that's why as the economy craters yeah and people

00:50:27.520 are just poorer because of inflation yeah housing prices don't drop no events don't drop that's right

00:50:32.960 it's being artificially propped up and that's why these cities are really rich wealthy city you go who

00:50:38.640 who that has all this money who has all this money to buy these apartments and then you go oh it's

00:50:45.920 criminals from all over the world that are washing a lot of dirty money in real estate and i'm sure

00:50:53.120 maybe just rich people that aren't criminals but a lot of them a lot of them are guys if you look it

00:50:57.040 up there's like a guy there's like a it'll be like a guy who poisoned a river in zambia and that is

00:51:02.240 no and he's like that's why all these real estate shows are fake they're all not true they're all

00:51:08.000 these with these attractive women they walk around and they find these like they find like a guy who's

00:51:13.680 a basketball player or a guy who's like an actor none of them are even buying the houses by the way

00:51:17.600 i know the people that work on these real estate shows you know they really sell the houses to a lot

00:51:22.400 of people that just come in speaking complete mandarin and i have a friend who's a real estate agent and

00:51:27.120 they come in they speak complete mandarin to a translator he just points and he's beverly hills and

00:51:31.520 pointing there you go they stand outside to look at the view and they're the ones who are actually

00:51:35.920 buying houses or russian nationals oligarchs or people from the united arab emirates or people for

00:51:41.200 brazilian mining magnets or people from india it's it's very it's not really a lot of domestic

00:51:47.440 buyers in la it's in new york it's a it's a ton of foreign nationals you know and that's why these

00:51:52.320 real estate shows aren't true if they were true it would be a real estate agent um greeting someone

00:51:58.000 at the door and going this is a beautiful house how did things go with the hague are you okay

00:52:02.400 everything was good at the hague great we saw that take a look at the veranda they have a great that

00:52:07.840 would be the real show but it's not the real show you know but what about the people who live here

00:52:11.840 they can't afford housing they can't afford housing and no one cares no one cares because they the

00:52:17.200 whole game now is people just say rent rent take ubers you don't need a car you don't need to own

00:52:22.160 anything doesn't matter what you moved personally yeah in the opposite direction yeah so you made money

00:52:28.640 after years of being poor yes it sounds like you didn't put as much in the market as you did into

00:52:33.440 real estate why um real estate to me is something i understand i i i would probably get richer if i

00:52:39.440 knew more about stocks or if i knew you know i was caught up in that bitcoin craziness where i still have

00:52:44.960 a good amount of crypto and i you know i remember you know we talked last night i remember sitting at

00:52:49.200 a table with like jake paul and a few of these guys and jake paul's like are you investing in cum rocket

00:52:53.600 i said what is that and he was like well it's a it's a coin you know it's a it's a coin but it was

00:52:59.280 going up he's like i've made all this money and i called my business manager like 2am in miami and

00:53:03.520 i'm a sober guy but i feel high because i'm calling my business manager at 2am go should i invest in

00:53:08.800 cum rocket and he goes i think so i think probably so this is how nuts everyone got you invest in

00:53:15.280 cum rock i didn't i was i was at the end of the day i pulled out and i'm like nah let's just stick with

00:53:19.120 the bitcoin and ethereum you pulled out of cum rocket i pulled out of cum rocket i said you know

00:53:22.960 what this is too volatile yeah but you went with the withdrawal method i went with the withdrawal

00:53:27.440 method of cum rocket i said we don't want it all over the place but it was a crazy time it was an

00:53:33.120 insane time nfts people were making millions of dollars people were making all this money uh with

00:53:38.480 bitcoin it was a complete house of cards it was crazy and i think bitcoin is a good thing i think

00:53:44.400 having this decentralized currency is actually a really cool thing but like everything else

00:53:48.720 the world that grew around it was a world of criminals and con artists and flim flam artists

00:53:52.800 and people were full of shit and people that were just taking all this money and pumping all these

00:53:56.960 things up and just all these were stock scams and ponzi schemes and stuff like that real estate to me

00:54:01.680 seemed the most safe because i understood it i get it i understand people always need houses want

00:54:06.960 houses they give you joy they make you happy there are things that promote other things in society

00:54:11.920 that i think are good like having a family and keeping a family and having i have a house on

00:54:17.440 long island where i could have my family come and visit and like i'm an hour from my father and i'm

00:54:22.080 only a few hours from family that lives in rhode island like i think having places for people to

00:54:26.560 gather is very important as part of my childhood and those things are huge and i don't think you

00:54:30.480 get as much joy from cum rocket you know as an investment you might get more money so i i understand

00:54:36.960 that but i've also watched friends not be able to and i got lucky because i was a comedian i got

00:54:40.560 started a podcast joe rogan helped me out a lot by putting me on a bunch and i got really lucky but

00:54:45.200 i have friends that are hard-working people firefighters teachers versus the people that

00:54:48.960 actually do the jobs that make society work and run and they're having a tough time now because

00:54:53.840 interest rates are seven percent and how the house values and with the rates i think it's the most time

00:54:59.200 most expensive time to buy in like 40 years yes it's crazy so how closely do you follow residential

00:55:04.640 real estate markets very are they going to come down yes the answer is eventually yes there's more

00:55:12.320 inventory coming in 2025 i think that rates dropping will get people off the sidelines right

00:55:21.200 now it's an inventory problem where there's just not a lot of houses there's not a lot of houses on

00:55:26.400 the market boomers don't want to die and they don't want to sell their homes boomers used to sell

00:55:31.360 their homes go to florida get a condo boomers don't want to do that they're actually retiring in

00:55:36.240 some cases bigger homes it's it's kind of hilarious and somewhat satanic because this this selfishness is

00:55:41.200 so ingrained so ingrained in them that their whole the the thing about the boomers is they've been

00:55:45.840 alive for a very long time many of them have attained absolutely no wisdom so what they've done

00:55:50.640 so that's not easy by the way it's actually impressive and what they've done is everything's

00:55:56.800 material so this big house that they lured around i mean some of my friends parents i mean

00:56:00.800 i'm writing a book about them they're hilarious they know nothing i mean nothing but they lured around

00:56:04.960 these big suburban castles and their whole sense of self worth comes from this it comes from materialism

00:56:14.400 so the idea that they would leave this big house which is every argument that a boomer ever tries to

00:56:20.400 win they just point at their house i mean they don't know anything they have zero idea they've read

00:56:26.960 no books about anything uh they're a very funny they're less really truly funny generation i think because

00:56:33.360 everyone has been becoming flattened but they are just very funny and deeply selfish i mean it's you

00:56:39.600 know uh it's funny to watch them and you know it is funny but they're never going to get rid of these

00:56:44.400 houses so their their kids are kind of you know they're being held hostage i mean the whole economy you

00:56:48.960 know i mean pelosi uh biden these very old people mitch mcconnell they won't retire none of them have any

00:56:56.640 plans on retiring they want to die in office and that's very much like across the board nobody will

00:57:02.800 sell their house nobody will step down at their job it's just a generation of people that don't want

00:57:09.120 to stop because they're afraid of what's coming they know they'll be punished for the next life

00:57:14.320 i don't even know they seem to be very ambivalent about that they they seem to face death and kind

00:57:19.280 of a very like uh um they don't seem to be i'm kind of they don't seem appropriately afraid yeah i'm

00:57:26.240 somewhat impressed by them actually they're they're they're a son of cat they're very casual about it i think

00:57:31.360 because it it you know their their main fears are discomfort and i think if they're gone there

00:57:39.920 won't be any more discomfort there's no more traffic what so you're writing a book about the

00:57:44.400 boomers yeah they were my teachers growing up yeah and um it's not all bad but they're they're all bad

00:57:50.960 i hated them from first grade when i realized too they were they're funny though so to me the thing that

00:57:56.240 i i say when i say they're not all bad they're terrible at all the things you would you would

00:58:00.960 say that they're but they make me laugh but they're very fun trend yes over the last 70 years yes they've

00:58:08.000 driven and fallen for completely it whatever dumb trend from the pet rock to feminism yes

00:58:14.320 fucking covid like they're all in on every trend the thing with the boomers is

00:58:18.240 they they their life started and they're woodstock people right 100 they all went to what we all believe

00:58:24.480 my parents didn't because it was traffic i kid you not they turned around because there's too much

00:58:28.240 traffic can you imagine they were boomers even then and they literally turned their car around i mean

00:58:33.280 it's it's unforgivable it's unforgivable behavior um what happens is we are led to believe they're this

00:58:41.840 very progressive uh generation of very interesting uh change agents agents of change and spiritual people

00:58:49.920 right and then we we we see of course that they're just selfish drug addicts that want to just do

00:58:54.720 drugs in a field which has its benefits but let's not pretend it's a a grand life strategy right and and

00:59:02.080 then they just kind of you know buy into the they're the most propagandized generation in terms of

00:59:07.200 advertising yes i mean the edward bernay stuff i mean like they fell forever they fed us all poison

00:59:12.400 growing up they fell for everything they fell for every corporate slogan my father who i love but

00:59:17.680 will cry at commercials he would cry at the budweiser clydesdales into the 911 thing he loved

00:59:23.760 the budweiser frogs like he loved commercial they loved commercial boomers adored commercials they

00:59:28.960 liked commercial a good folgers commercial with family sitting together and they're drinking coffee

00:59:34.080 boomers loved commercials they thought uh that all of these things that corporations really cared about

00:59:40.400 them and they kind of they were very somewhat naive and i think they're they're kind of like

00:59:45.920 spinning out a little bit now because they've realized a little bit to some degree how wrong

00:59:51.840 they were about everything and and it was kind of now it's kind of becoming you know apparent

00:59:57.840 but they like being lied to is what you're saying well they they liked it because it was all about

01:00:01.920 comfort the idea of moving into the suburbs and getting this house and having all these things

01:00:07.040 the mark of success became comfort you know for years in america the mark of success was like

01:00:12.320 conquest or yeah going and you know settling some achievement whatever achievement or coming up with

01:00:16.960 a company or an advancement make people's lives better you know then it became about comfort it's

01:00:22.080 where do you live and how leafy green is the suburb where's the pool and and it was just like let's

01:00:27.760 relax let's grill and i think what happened was a lot of these people just became kind of creatures of

01:00:35.280 this environment where everybody was one-upping each other with cars and you know like but they still had

01:00:41.760 that like hippie thing in them so they would still do weird stuff like my friend's dad has like a band

01:00:51.040 and it's like he'll go and you know play in this basic terrible band but they'll they'll have fun like

01:00:57.760 you know there were just these things that they like keep from that era even though they you know

01:01:05.040 have you know gone fully down the road of like just materialism and they didn't really like their

01:01:10.720 children that's the other thing i find funny they view their children was like obstacles to their own

01:01:14.880 success and fulfillment the boomers really didn't like their shows the first generation of people

01:01:18.880 that didn't really want their children to have it too much better than they did if they wanted them to

01:01:22.640 have it better at all it was kind of a weird disgusting i know but it was just a very weird

01:01:26.880 adversarial relationship my friend's mother just like faked she didn't go to his wedding she like

01:01:31.840 faked some injuries she said she was attacked in a said she was like attacked in a supermarket

01:01:37.280 it's blatantly untrue what blatantly untrue she made up the story that she was like attacked in

01:01:42.720 a supermarket parking lot she just was like i'm attacked and i can't go and she just missed his

01:01:47.040 wedding she didn't go to his wedding why they're crazy these people i don't know these boomers i don't

01:01:51.520 know why they do what they do but they're just it's just very funny it's like so what one very funny

01:01:55.760 thing was after my mother died i swear to god i was on the phone my aunt which is her sister and i go

01:02:00.400 i go what do we think about a funeral everything like that you know maybe thursday she goes i know

01:02:04.640 she goes we've got a boat thing not really

01:02:10.080 is her sister yeah she goes we're gonna go on the boat with some friends but she goes we could get

01:02:13.440 it we maybe do it next we figure it out next week so but that's why they're so that's why i do love

01:02:20.480 them i don't hate like i love them because it's like they're horrible but they make me laugh so much and i

01:02:26.000 i was able to you know just fuse the stuff together to make it and the millennials suck

01:02:30.960 too and there's other generations that are problem but um they just didn't make me laugh but they are

01:02:35.520 terrible they are really terrible and that's what makes them what's so funny they're getting credit

01:02:39.360 for it though finally someone who's disliked them since like 1977 i really have too yeah because

01:02:45.440 they spoke entirely in cliches they're so banal it's very it's very very it's very banal shallow

01:02:51.200 and the materialist you're exactly right yeah but now it seems like they're just reviled by everyone

01:02:55.280 is that true yes they're kind of reviled by everyone and they're they're just i remember growing

01:03:00.480 up all my friends parents say oh they all spoken like sayings totally and none of it meant anything

01:03:05.920 and uh you know they would demonize perfectly good jobs like union jobs yes like you want to

01:03:12.240 be like that guy you want to be like that guy and they had these empty corporate hellscape jobs that

01:03:17.680 turn all turn them into alcoholics and everything but they're like you want to be like that guy and

01:03:21.920 it was usually like an in-shape guy like working construction like you want to be a scumbag

01:03:25.840 like him or do you want to sit in office like me and cheat on your mother um so you so is this

01:03:33.520 they always demonized other people you were always in a rat race with other kids they always talked

01:03:38.400 about these other kids are doing better than you it was like you know kind of a weird like

01:03:43.200 a weird but nothing was nothing was really focused on on excellence as much as it was focused on

01:03:50.000 winning to make them look good so like you know if you had boomer parents and sports they were always

01:03:57.760 kind of like they weren't getting you up and making you train but they would go to the games

01:04:04.400 and yell like they would go like there was this woman this woman her daughter was a swimmer my

01:04:09.120 mother was a swim coach and this woman would get up and scream god you know she'd be like totally in

01:04:15.040 her daughter's corner they're just screaming and yelling but you'd never see her at any of the

01:04:18.720 practices at 8 a.m when the kids in the pool you know they wanted the end result this was the whole

01:04:24.480 thing so they're the ones who pushed the college lie like dylan needs to go to princeton and i'm

01:04:28.480 so proud they have to go to college our kids went to college and they pushed that lie because again

01:04:33.200 all they wanted to do is get their kids away from them so that's why there were 80 activities every

01:04:38.160 week you could martial arts soccer dance class whatever it was that they could put you in a car

01:04:43.600 and put you away they drop you off somewhere good luck um so college was like great here we go

01:04:49.200 we're done they went to college you know did you go to college no i went to a community college for

01:05:01.040 two years and dropped out i won a uh debate championship gold medal in debate and i just

01:05:09.040 dropped out of college and i went into finance because i didn't like i didn't like what your parents

01:05:13.920 say your boomer parents they were disappointed they were thinking i would fail they knew you

01:05:21.760 well i mean so there are two options for a boomer kid a millennial or whatever you want to call me

01:05:27.680 a gen x or whatever uh succeeding which they would be happy about because they would claim total credit

01:05:33.280 for it yeah and then failing and then they would go um well you didn't listen to us of course you failed

01:05:40.240 and i think with me they were very much like he's gonna be a big mess and we're gonna get to tell

01:05:45.040 people all the time how how you didn't listen to anything we said and this is why but then it ended

01:05:50.560 up it looked like it was going one way it went the other way so they're fine now they're cool with it

01:05:54.560 but it's just it is it was they didn't expect it they didn't expect it would you wreck they said to

01:06:00.160 me my father's wife said to me who i do like a lot but she said she goes how does someone like you

01:06:04.560 who made every wrong decision in their life end up with a house like this so but that is the way today

01:06:09.360 but that is the way they made the right decisions does that occur to them never never it's interesting

01:06:16.080 but that is kind of the way that they you know the way they speak the results do you sort of tell the

01:06:20.800 story right you would think which is why you would think you know but um yeah they were they were

01:06:26.560 interesting their their spiritual life was materialism yeah and their um their lives were

01:06:34.560 were really um about themselves more than anyone else there's never been a generation where it's

01:06:41.520 been about them as much as it is uh but you know my aunt said to me during covet it made me laugh

01:06:46.160 she goes we're on the phone i think they i do they just made me laugh so much she goes

01:06:50.240 she goes i hope everybody gets this vaccine and i said yeah she goes i hope everyone gets this vaccine

01:06:57.280 i said yeah she goes because i want to travel and i worked my whole life she goes i've worked my

01:07:04.400 whole life and by the way everyone's worked their whole of course it's the funniest thing to say

01:07:10.240 everyone's worked their whole life like what are you talking like okay 20 people didn't work and they

01:07:16.720 you know they grew up with whatever but like where she goes everybody better get this vaccine because i

01:07:22.480 want to travel i want to go on cruises and because i've worked my whole life and i believe she's been

01:07:28.800 retired for about 30 years with full dental maybe 25 years right yeah but like it is just a fight it's

01:07:36.480 very funny the way that they are you know they just it's they're perfect so you said a minute ago that um

01:07:44.080 the internet has decentralized power and disempowered all these institutions and those are the institutions that

01:07:50.400 kind of decided who was successful and who wasn't particularly in the entertainment business or

01:07:53.760 news sports even yeah um what does this mean for like their ability to crush people they don't like

01:08:01.360 to cancel people they'll have to find new ways to do it and i think they're they're they're a little

01:08:06.560 panicked um i think it hurts their ability to do it substantially dramatically that way yeah i think

01:08:14.480 dramatically you said you're friends with louis ck yeah um who i don't know i'm not defending louis ck

01:08:19.680 but i remember reading the details of that and thinking you know okay maybe unattractive louis

01:08:24.000 been able to have a great career is that a crime like what was that no not at all and he's been

01:08:28.240 able to have a phenomenal career why did they do that to him well i mean it was a moment in which

01:08:33.360 and i don't know the details of every single accusation in that piece but i do know that it

01:08:37.120 was a moment where people weren't thinking but even if they were all wanted to punish even if

01:08:42.960 everything written about the guy that i read was true you'd be like all right that's embarrassing

01:08:48.000 well that was a time when it wasn't enough that someone uh admit to a mistake or admit it was

01:08:53.680 about destroying people yes about ending their lives why i just think if people get caught up in

01:08:59.200 these moral panics and they want to hurt people and this is something deeply innate in our uh beings

01:09:05.600 that have to be uh dealt with we have to figure out you know why we do this but this is something that

01:09:10.720 people like mobs and they like getting right you know their pitchforks out and i think you know he's

01:09:15.680 been able to have a phenomenal career and he's you know made movies he's the sold out madison

01:09:20.000 square garden he's done all these things his fans love him and he's one of the greatest comedians

01:09:22.960 that's ever lived so you you have that um but yeah it was a time when people just wanted other people

01:09:28.480 to be heard it wasn't enough to say i fucked up no matter who it was or what they did and i think now

01:09:34.480 i think people are people are looking at the full the full picture of a human being and going like you

01:09:40.320 know what i think we're all over that i'm hoping we're all over that but there are forces out there

01:09:45.920 that um are gonna have to adjust you know so i don't know what they do so louis ck was they may

01:09:51.520 go back to killing people that's what they did for a long that's what they did for a long time and then

01:09:57.120 they now they then they just started destroying their reputations but before that they killed them

01:10:01.600 if you remember that yes they people would die in all these weird ways and cars would go off

01:10:06.720 things and people get shot in the middle of hotels and then it just started to be like we're just

01:10:10.960 going to take out people's reputations does seem like people a lot of people are dying have you

01:10:15.520 noticed this and it does seem not not just yeah bing but right yeah yeah yeah it's it's yeah there's a

01:10:21.520 lot of problems it's not good okay but it turns out that he not only survived this yeah this character

01:10:29.200 assassination attempt but thrived he thrived because his talent spoke for itself and people

01:10:34.240 what is anyone keeping track of all the other guys who were destroyed um i think i i think a lot

01:10:39.040 of them are doing great i think a lot of them are doing fine because i think as we talked about

01:10:45.120 it's not the worst thing to have people turn on you because it it makes you it builds resilience yes

01:10:53.360 you know who your real friends are you fall back on your talent you lean on your talent you lean on

01:10:58.160 the things that you can do better than anyone else and you try to make those even better you have to be

01:11:02.560 more effective in a way yes you can't coast the tide will not carry you so you have to find ways to

01:11:10.800 you know create your own uh environment and create your own uh inertia to move the things you're doing

01:11:20.160 forward because you don't you won't be carried anymore um by the mainstream so you have to just go and

01:11:29.840 i think that's ultimately a good thing well sue it's bad that people kiss your ass it's bad for your

01:11:34.640 soul do you i mean you must deal with that no i think i deal with people that lie to me all the

01:11:39.680 time it's like that is a version of kissing your ass of course people lie so it's it people make things

01:11:45.600 you know they just they if they you don't get a lot of good feedback all the time but then there are

01:11:50.640 people that i trust to give me real feedback and they're not people that i'm usually paying

01:11:54.560 you start paying people that can get complicated but there are some people that i pay that i do

01:12:00.160 trust give me real feedback but then there are also a lot of people that earn money off when i

01:12:03.840 earn money that tell me everything's great all the time and i go i don't know if that was great

01:12:07.600 they go no it was great like their job is to just keep you in a positive mind frame so that you keep

01:12:12.000 earning money their job is not to bring any negative or real things to the forefront i mean don't you

01:12:20.240 think it's good for you to be attacked and confronted and belittled yes i think it's brought

01:12:24.800 to who you really are once again i think it's it's certainly good if you're a creative person yes you

01:12:29.920 have to create and you have to shake yourself out of a comfort zone for sure yeah do you get enough

01:12:36.720 hate that it keeps you human i think so i think i get enough hate you got enough today i think i get

01:12:42.400 enough of people that don't like what i do or say for sure i think things are appropriately difficult

01:12:49.040 meaning like i have friction and that's good i think that you know people i'm not i'm not a person

01:12:56.480 who you know is uh beloved with a lot of what i say but my fans are people that like what i do like

01:13:05.760 me but then there are people that need some convincing i think that's good i think that's

01:13:10.640 good i don't mind that when i sit down with people and you know my manager people like that will

01:13:15.600 tell me they go yeah they you know they like you but they don't they don't know really who you are

01:13:20.080 i think you get a lot of similar stuff where people go well they have ideas about you that are not from

01:13:26.160 you they are just out there so well i agree and i don't think there's anything wrong with being

01:13:31.680 attacked for your actual crimes there's nothing wrong with that and i welcome it it's being called

01:13:38.000 names that actually aren't accurate yeah you know for sure i once was talking to a new york times

01:13:42.560 reporter who was telling me what a racist i was yeah and i said i'm actually i first of all i would

01:13:48.640 tell you if i was a racist i'm really not a racist i'm actually a sexist right and which i thought was

01:13:53.920 hilarious yeah sort of true and i thought what if that's a good line yeah didn't print it no they

01:13:58.800 won't print it if someone said that to me in an interview i would print that yeah i participated once i

01:14:04.400 i don't know a ton of i know some people in journalism but i participated once in this thing

01:14:10.000 where like there's a few journalists that like wanted to talk to a comedian because they they were

01:14:14.720 like we want to start using more comedy in our pieces and i was like wait what and they they were

01:14:19.280 just these these totally unfunny like people it was just tough i was like guys just write the

01:14:24.960 fucking news but they wanted like you know they wanted like what did you tell them i just said you

01:14:30.480 know i don't know i think people that are good at this stuff are good at it you know and i i just

01:14:34.240 i can't tell you how to make something funny you know because they were basically saying like we

01:14:39.200 think that our reach will grow dramatically if we're funny and i go it might grow dramatically if you

01:14:45.520 reported facts you know that might do they laugh no they didn't they were like well so that's all

01:14:52.240 are there any journalists you like or read or trust or i mean there's people that i read all the time

01:14:57.040 like who um i read andrew sullivan a lot i don't always agree with him but i i think he's well

01:15:00.960 worth a read i i've read seymour hirsch every article that he writes me too i you know i read uh

01:15:07.760 i read um a bit barry weiss i'll read the free press whether i agree or not

01:15:13.600 i'll read taibbi i'll read your stuff from delhi kohler people that have written there i've read

01:15:19.280 like you know and i'll read thomas friedman i'll read nicholas crystal i'll read the times

01:15:22.960 editor i read washington post i'll read an apple bomb in the atlantic and i disagree with

01:15:26.880 her i don't want to go to russia tomorrow i have an engagement thank you i have a lunch um she's

01:15:32.560 very hyped about the russia thing god bless but i think why's she so mad at russia i don't know they

01:15:36.480 all want to go to war with russia i have things what is that i have a kitchen renovation um

01:15:43.520 and do you think by the way it's a little weird as you're an adult man yeah with a job yeah it's a

01:15:48.640 little weird to have someone like anna applebaum or any of these people like tell you what your

01:15:52.560 opinion should be it's very strange i mean she's very aggressive on this russia issue and there's

01:15:59.760 this idea that i think we we have this purpose we have a deficit of purpose in the country yes this

01:16:11.040 is what i think i think we have a deficit of purpose i think the elites feel it the people that have lots

01:16:16.960 and lots of uh you know time to think about these things feel the deficit of purpose i think if you're

01:16:22.800 working 20 hours a day to feed your family you don't have a deficit of purpose no you don't but

01:16:27.120 i think if you're lounging around in a dc townhouse trying to figure out what problems that you need to

01:16:31.920 go out and desperately solve you have a deficit of purpose and i think this uh idea gives them uh the

01:16:39.040 sense that now we are back in world war ii and there's good and there's evil and this is the purpose

01:16:45.040 this is why we've all been on the planet to uh confront the country with the most nuclear weapons

01:16:51.760 of any other country over two regions of the two northern provinces in ukraine which if you google

01:16:57.680 image them i mean take it i mean truly truly and i'll give him part of this country too there's a

01:17:03.760 lot of this country which parts uh a lot um there's parts of it that we don't need i'll give him part if

01:17:09.120 putin wants it yeah we'll give him parts of california north jersey well yeah we'll give him some parts

01:17:14.000 of that you will give it i i think we should actually let's really him let's give him upstate

01:17:19.840 new york let's give him a lot of michigan let's give him stuff where he goes hey man i'm good could

01:17:24.960 he fix connected do you think i don't know if anyone could i was just in connected and i like

01:17:29.200 the people there but i don't know if anyone could i actually said on stage it would be nice if putin

01:17:33.280 invaded this um what kind of response did you get they all laughed they're great they're great

01:17:38.480 comedy yeah they are they got it but yeah i mean i think there's deficit of purpose i think people

01:17:42.160 like an apple bomb i'm sure she's lovely lady or whatever i don't i don't think so she's a little

01:17:46.160 vicious in the the way she writes loathsome yeah never met her but she it's very aggressive it's

01:17:50.480 very like we got to go to we got to go to russia and we got to fight putin and i i'm like is it

01:17:57.280 weird some rich girl in dc is telling other people to fight war that's weird to me i go are you is this

01:18:02.480 a bad day thing are you i you know i i wake up and i go i should jog i should work i should do

01:18:12.960 better things that i don't end up doing and i go i should you know i should have a breakfast of just

01:18:18.640 uh you know some macrobiotic la sludge that it's more healthier i never think i should go to war with

01:18:24.320 russia no i know i've never thought of that i've never thought of that i you know i i should take a

01:18:28.800 road trip i should connect with an old friend i've never thought that i should go to war with

01:18:34.320 russia i've never believed i never thought that was a good way to spend a summer that they don't

01:18:38.480 want you to go to russia um i don't know i don't know i don't i i think that they like

01:18:47.200 we need enemies we have a huge national security apparatus that relies on conflicts we sell a lot of

01:18:54.080 weapons yes we have a huge uh investment in that and you know we're arming the ukraine and kind

01:19:00.960 of an unwinnable war that everybody knew was unwinnable it was incredibly bloody and it didn't

01:19:05.600 have to be and you know this is something where the secretary of state anthony blinken went and

01:19:14.160 performed rock in the free world i don't know if you saw that i did see it yeah i mean does that

01:19:18.080 inspire confidence it's disturbing it's crazy if my child died in a war and then the secretary of

01:19:23.920 state of the country that supposedly backing us showed up to play music i would kind of be in

01:19:29.680 the middle of the war by the way the war's not over it would be a little disturbing to me so it's just

01:19:35.600 very strange and then you know the kamala harris thing i'm like well this was a bigger country that

01:19:39.600 invaded a smaller country and that was her i mean kamala harris is like a brentwood mom you know she's

01:19:44.720 like a wine drunk kind of brentwood mom and so that's the way a mom would explain that that's

01:19:49.600 what like a brentwood california pacific palisades you know tuna tartare chardonnay mom explains that

01:19:59.280 she goes it's a bigger country and they've invaded a smaller um so that's the level of uh understanding

01:20:07.120 they want us to have of of any conflict but maybe so maybe that's not the truth is what you're

01:20:12.880 suggesting yeah but imagine it's not i imagine it's not everybody that i've spoken to respect people like

01:20:17.600 rfk and everything there's a whole narrative that nobody's read about nobody understands what was

01:20:22.160 ongoing since 2014 yeah and just always because we weren't paying attention doesn't why did these

01:20:27.520 minsk accords not get signed why i mean like you know what do you think it's really about

01:20:34.080 i think it's about you know i i think you know when when when people i can apple bomb right that

01:20:39.840 russia's a failed state and we need to westernize it this is in the atlantic it's a failed state she's

01:20:45.120 written these things and this is a common maybe a state you don't like it's the opposite of a failed

01:20:49.360 state it's a coherent state yeah you can not like it it's been around for a thousand years it's not

01:20:53.520 my i remember when it was my job to give shopping malls to afghanistan the afghani yes i remember that

01:20:58.320 oh you do i remember when i was a senior year in high school and everybody goes here's what we're

01:21:02.080 doing we're going to afghanistan and iraq we're going to democratize the middle east this was the

01:21:06.320 project yeah now these psychopaths want to democratize russia back then they were republicans now

01:21:11.120 they're calling themselves democrats it doesn't seem to matter they float between the two parties

01:21:15.440 of course on msnbc now all the time and i remember i'm old enough to remember that what i mean how did

01:21:20.880 we leave afghanistan 20 years later does it seem democratized the talibans in power we should have

01:21:25.600 a five-year moratorium on any conflicts after course after it's 20 years and the taliban goes back in

01:21:31.040 power it should be it's like if you have a party armed by us yeah if you have a party at your house

01:21:36.560 and it burns down your parents should go you're done now you're done in our new house you don't

01:21:42.880 have any parties you gotta really establish that you've grown and learned from this uh that was

01:21:49.440 crazy to me so when all these people make these arguments i go it doesn't really make sense that

01:21:53.760 we would be doing this again do you feel that changing like to the extent that you're with

01:22:05.360 brentwood wine moms now yeah are they less enthusiastic about the brave ukrainian people

01:22:10.400 they don't care they don't care exactly cares no one really care it's just fun to pretend to care

01:22:16.400 no one cares no one no one unless you're from the ukraine or you live in the ukraine

01:22:25.120 no one cares at all it is not even a real thing you know if it comes up at a dinner people go

01:22:32.080 terrible terrible terrible horrible do they have the sticky toffee pudding no one it's not real it's

01:22:39.680 not on our shore it doesn't affect us it is no we don't fight we just arm people we send money

01:22:47.520 we don't care it's not it's israel guys i think it's not real people get very upset but none of these

01:22:54.080 things affect us because we can watch them but they're not impacting our daily lives they're not

01:23:00.640 impacting our daily lives and so the government now if the government said to us now they're

01:23:05.200 starting to do these really interesting things they're going we need the draft we want to we

01:23:09.520 want to do that again germany's thinking about that we're thinking military times ran an article

01:23:14.560 where they're like selective service uh we should we should reinstate the draft

01:23:18.640 um there's soon how people are starting to go yourself how's that sound that's right

01:23:22.480 go ahead and do that and then we can talk people are starting to perk their ears up now

01:23:26.480 that changes everything people start to go wait a minute what's going on because they're clearly

01:23:34.000 preparing for something huge this is in the cards you can feel it it's you talk to military people

01:23:42.320 about it they're kind of um they kind of go well it's there's a i don't even know they know

01:23:51.200 but there's something ominous that they're preparing for it just you can feel it that

01:23:55.040 they're preparing for something big they're floating all these ideas about drafts we haven't heard these

01:23:59.360 for 20 30 years not even when supposedly remember terrorists were going to blow up every city in

01:24:03.200 america we didn't hear about the draft we didn't hear about the draft when terrorists were going to

01:24:07.520 blow up everything you're going to be sitting at a lunch table is going to blow up we didn't hear

01:24:10.480 about the draft now we're hearing about the draft something's coming i don't know what's coming but

01:24:15.440 something ominous they're planning for something and if you can kind of feel it i mean i don't know

01:24:20.960 if that's something you've picked up on or you you think certainly have maybe you think maybe i'm

01:24:25.760 being dramatic you're not being dramatic and i mean it's as simple as they can't lose the war

01:24:30.400 against russia that we're waging we're waging a war against russia it's not right Ukraine Ukraine

01:24:34.400 is macron in france going nato troops in ukraine remember when they were trying to enforce a no-fly

01:24:39.520 zone i remember i was doing a show in the warner theater in dc it was a great theater

01:24:43.040 and i'm like what the i mean i'm like you know a no-fly zone enforcing that guarantees a hot war

01:24:52.480 an actual war with russia immediately overnight that's right immediately as soon as they want

01:24:56.720 and they were they were they were two years ago and they were saying let's do it remember very well

01:24:59.920 you know and i was like i was going wait a minute guys what the fuck we're going to war with russia

01:25:04.680 tomorrow i was like what's going on i said we've done enough with the sanctions what did we take out

01:25:09.140 we took out taco bell there you go you we'd said no mcdonald's dramatically improve the country no

01:25:14.100 mcdonald's we took out all the poison food and i said listen we've done enough i remember talking

01:25:20.900 to louis about i was like big and louis but it's just so crazy like there's just something about

01:25:25.060 all these celebrities clamoring for a war with russia i go there's something strange about

01:25:32.020 this there's something weird and i i don't know what it comes from this need to

01:25:35.300 and but they are preparing you can feel it you can feel it when macron goes maybe we should have

01:25:39.700 native troops in france and when germany goes maybe we should have a draft and you go what's

01:25:43.620 wait a minute what's happening what is happening something so but i mean you said a minute ago that

01:25:49.860 there's no chance ukraine quote ukraine which is really nato which is really the united states

01:25:55.300 can win against a nation with a hundred million more people in deeper industrial capacities like the

01:25:59.780 whole thing was stupid from day one where it's not winnable right yeah but what and which is true

01:26:04.420 but what if we quite obviously lose then it means after years of well we've already almost lost in

01:26:12.260 the way if you think about this russia putin has purged um just people that were disloyal in the

01:26:19.940 government he's consolidated power he's opened a bigger trading relationship with china india

01:26:26.340 pakistan brazil i believe um economic production and the company is up uh of course you know the

01:26:33.220 industrial productions up uh he evaded all these sanctions pretty much the wages have gone up wages

01:26:40.340 he's in a stronger position now than he's ever been of course after this policy country's thriving

01:26:45.380 ours is not yeah like it's a weird thing to look at that situation and go he kind of has already won in

01:26:54.900 that sense if the goal was to strengthen him which it clearly wasn't the goal is to bleed out the

01:26:59.700 russian military it hasn't worked but i do think they're trying there's something else that's going

01:27:03.140 to happen i don't know what they're going to do but they're so but if if it becomes really obvious

01:27:06.900 like with the afghan pullout that like we lost that's right all the those words that we've been

01:27:12.580 throwing at you for the last two and a half years they were fake we are powerless we are weak

01:27:15.940 and now we have no credibility it's totally discrediting right for tony blinken yes hillary

01:27:21.060 clinton yes all these susan rice all the monsters in charge of wrecking our country are humiliated

01:27:26.020 yeah you can't have that right because it's about them it's not about us it's about them yeah it's

01:27:30.100 and you know we're going to probably commit more money to that situation and i could even see a

01:27:37.620 situation where and i hope we're not stupid enough to do this but they are starting to float this idea

01:27:42.660 of like the money's not enough and i don't know what's next but we know what's next we don't want

01:27:49.220 what's next you know when when people go well we might need troops we should have nato troops

01:27:54.420 well this is what they're doing they're going we should have nato peacekeeping force it's very

01:27:57.380 interesting recently they've gone what about some nato peacekeeping forces there let's just put some

01:28:02.900 in there i mean it's just like what does it mean to drop a quote peacekeeping force yeah into a war

01:28:08.500 where are the nato peacekeeping forces in gaza where are the nato peacekeeping forces are they not on

01:28:13.860 the way in rafa are they not there where is that nato peacekeeping force in ukraine we know what's

01:28:18.900 we know what happens next and it's a full-blown war and that's terrible it's world war three but it

01:28:23.620 sounds like that's accelerating it seems to be i mean again i'm no genius but i pick up on little

01:28:29.860 clues that are out there and i go huh it seems and mike johnson the new speaker is not going to stop it

01:28:35.780 you think i don't think he's going to stop it no i don't think anyone's going to say i don't think

01:28:38.660 anyone what's your read on him i need more evidence i mean he seems sort of like a like an empty suit a

01:28:48.180 little bit i mean that seems to be my vague or reflection generic understanding of him as sort

01:28:56.420 of like an empty suit controlled yeah i feel like he's you know there is and it's not party specific

01:29:04.580 but there are interests that are just bigger than the parties and it is a lot of you know that we have

01:29:12.580 22 intelligence agencies most people can name three yes four um we have a pentagon that's

01:29:19.060 incredibly you know well fine i'm not saying we shouldn't have a military or intelligence agencies

01:29:23.940 but none of these people are elected we don't really know what any of them are doing and we

01:29:28.580 don't really know the rationale for why they're doing certain things um and those things never come

01:29:35.300 up to a vote you know nobody votes on even like our immigration policy nobody ever voted on that nobody

01:29:40.420 ever said well here's what i think should no they've refused to have a vote yeah they haven't

01:29:44.100 had a vote on how can people i mean so we're mad that you know about invasions around the world and

01:29:49.860 we're spending untold billions to stop invasions but at the same time we've had millions of military

01:29:54.420 aged men come into our country because there's no border right it's ignoring that as they're staring

01:29:59.780 so intently at these foreign conflicts what is that well the most compassionate thing to do is

01:30:03.860 invade countries make them unlivable and then have their people come over here and cut your grass

01:30:08.660 but clearly that's that's going that's all that's going on yeah it's where we're destabilizing whole

01:30:13.140 regions of the world a lot of those regions you know are are coming into america and there's just

01:30:18.980 no plan i mean obviously there should be some type of uh you know i i just don't think that all these

01:30:25.620 people that uh you know in greenwich connecticut for example you know i i don't know i can't imagine

01:30:33.620 just from knowing some of them they barely like each other in the house right there's no way they

01:30:40.020 love el salvadorians there's just no way that they want and it's not because they're el salvador it's

01:30:47.300 just like they don't even like each other they don't like the neighbor there's no way that they

01:30:52.020 love the nation of guatemala they want people to work for less money than they can pay americans i mean

01:30:58.580 this is just truth and they want nobody wants to talk about it but you look at la la is just tons

01:31:05.380 of that the gardeners people building houses people you know and you know you have it all over the

01:31:11.300 place rich people get a lot out of having people come to this country and they don't have to pay them

01:31:19.140 so how is it different from feudalism having a lot of serfs not too different it's not too different

01:31:25.540 i'm sure there's a lot of people come to the country they're good people they want to

01:31:28.900 feed their families and work and you know they end up being abused and they end up in a situation

01:31:33.620 that is for sure and this is you know like you know this is like this kind of idea that we can just

01:31:42.340 import um all of these people everybody and then there's not going to be significant growing pains

01:31:54.740 and how many people we can assimilate into a physical space and a cultural space and a

01:31:58.820 financial space and when nobody's being honest about any of those growing pains nobody's even

01:32:02.260 saying it's a mixed bag nobody's even saying it's good and bad everyone's going no it's great and if

01:32:06.900 you don't like it you're a nazi that is why you see all over europe and and a lot of people electing

01:32:15.300 leaders that are anti-immigration anti-migration because they themselves understand that

01:32:21.220 there are downsides significant sweden is now you know the most dangerous one of the most dangerous

01:32:27.300 countries there's all kinds of articles being written about sweden that the crime rates have

01:32:32.420 gone up dramatically over the last 10 years well what's happened over the last 10 years

01:32:36.500 right so people why do the swedes put up with it or why do why do americans put up with it what what is it

01:32:42.980 about people in the west i'll just say it white people who yeah like they just feel like they can't

01:32:48.020 complain or something well i think there's there's there's twofold number one certain people benefit

01:32:52.020 from it so certain people go well the maid the nanny i'm getting my nails done uh we've got cheaper help

01:32:58.420 at the beach club or whatever it is there are people that have a direct benefit from it there are people

01:33:03.220 that you know feel like um they ignore any potential negative or downside because they feel like um they

01:33:14.660 have a lot of guilt for whatever reason maybe it's the colonial period of the 17 18 centuries or they

01:33:21.860 feel like uh that the right thing to do is just to ignore any potential downside to immigration because

01:33:30.420 they feel guilty about how the country was established or how people were treated or any of

01:33:36.020 that that feeds into that mindset even though if you go back obviously before the 17th and 18th century

01:33:42.580 slavery was all over the world conquest was all over the world people killing each other different

01:33:46.740 races were subjugating and killing other races people fought over land religion the way i mean it was

01:33:51.780 it was a madhouse it was plunder it was violence this was the way of the world if you

01:33:55.540 but most people don't have any knowledge of like the ancient world they don't have any knowledge of

01:34:00.100 anything past that period of colonialism is where most people start their knowledge of history and in

01:34:07.460 that period the west is seen as the you know the enemy of anything that is good and so the guilt that gets

01:34:17.140 embedded into people is then i think manifested in these conversations about immigration where it's like

01:34:23.220 listen it's to me it's very economic there's times when the country will need more immigrants right

01:34:27.620 and there's times when the country will need less but there's probably um a way to kind of decide

01:34:33.300 who comes into the country we should be able to check their background to make sure that they

01:34:38.020 are not terrorists they're not dangerous they're not doing these things i don't think that's an

01:34:42.980 unreasonable ass well if you're importing millions of people over 10 million people

01:34:47.700 um with no education and no skills high-tech skills at exactly the moment when technology

01:34:54.980 ai is going to eliminate millions of jobs yeah especially low-end jobs yeah what is that that

01:35:01.220 seems crazy what seems like in intentional harm yeah well it certainly seems that that the people

01:35:07.780 don't really care i don't think people care i think that's you know you drive through i think a lot

01:35:12.420 of people have just written off large swaths of the country i travel around doing comedy all over the

01:35:16.420 country you see places where people go they've given up on this they've given up they don't

01:35:20.580 care i mean i remember detroit when people just went oh that's bankrupt there's what's done you know

01:35:25.300 it's coming back now but it was in american city people just went we don't care and people gave up

01:35:30.900 um you know this is this happens all over the place and i think so you're in a real estate investor

01:35:37.860 and a non-stop traveler i travel a lot yeah so where are the places that you think are promising

01:35:44.980 over the next 20 years south florida uh anywhere south of jupiter i mean i think east coast yeah

01:35:51.300 east coast there there there's a business climate there that people like people just like people

01:35:57.540 like the the thing that's happened with california which was a beautiful and amazing and a great state

01:36:02.020 it's like there's this idea that you you can't do it in california it's so hard there's so many

01:36:08.980 regulations everything costs so much money the houses cost so much money it really is a dream and it's kind

01:36:14.100 of a pipe dream and new york is becoming like that too there are these places that have become so

01:36:21.140 unattainable for people that they're going elsewhere and and they're going to texas going to florida and

01:36:28.740 it's not always political either it's some of it is but some of it is economic doesn't sound political

01:36:33.780 yeah no it's people that are like sounds way deeper i can't afford to live here and then the value

01:36:39.060 of what i'm getting for my money is not worth it anymore you know if i'm living in venice beach

01:36:44.820 california but somebody climbs over my wall and decapitates my wife i don't care that the mexican

01:36:50.660 food is better right there is something right now there's a trade there yeah so i think that's

01:36:56.180 happening but south florida is is good i think that um you know there's texas i think central texas

01:37:02.420 is still going to grow i think it slowed down austin was like a boom during the pandemic central texas

01:37:06.660 i think will grow i think like idaho i think any of those areas obviously montana all those areas

01:37:12.660 are getting very expensive um but you know idaho i think you know climate wise is going to be pretty

01:37:21.220 good any of those mountainous regions that are incredibly pretty and you know i think they're

01:37:26.820 they're not going to be 115 degrees and stuff so i think a lot of people will probably migrate in

01:37:32.180 that area i think hudson new york that area anywhere that's an hour and a half two hours out

01:37:38.180 of a city because people are working remote or they're they're working two or three days a week

01:37:41.780 areas like that i think that hudson valley is going to be big you know what about the west coast

01:37:48.820 you know i mean listen arizona certainly if you could take the heat not like not a coast you know

01:37:54.980 no no i mean i mean oh yeah washington oregon california washington state of all of those

01:37:59.220 washington state um has is the most resilient i think portland is tough i think that unless they

01:38:08.580 reverse a lot of their policies it's going to be tough but i think the lifestyle of the west coast

01:38:12.900 washington state's a beautiful state seattle's a little bit of a mess but most people live there

01:38:17.060 not to live in seattle they live there to live in the mountains and the lakes it's beautiful

01:38:20.980 i think washington state i think their tax system is a little better and i think that

01:38:25.060 there's a lot of people i i would say that that area holds and builds in the west coast you know

01:38:31.620 and i think in you know i think orange county california which is about an hour and a half south of la

01:38:37.700 where the da actually prosecutes crime and people feel better raising their families there and they

01:38:43.460 get that you know lifestyle of being by the beach and things like that i think that holds um and

01:38:48.340 hopefully san francisco's get reversed and gets better and i don't know i i tend to think that

01:38:54.180 it may come back i don't know but you know that would be a hope too what about home ownership like

01:38:59.940 you grew up in a world you're not even that old yeah people own their homes like middle class yeah

01:39:04.980 owned homes is that over it seems to be over in the sense that it's becoming more and more difficult i

01:39:17.540 think for people now to there's trade-offs to owning a home owning a home is not perfect for everybody

01:39:23.780 it's not right for everybody it's not you know always ideal it is ideal for people that have the

01:39:29.780 finances to do it and to to live you know and to um i think it's because i think people are looking at

01:39:35.620 their lives now and they're going the amount of money and work and all the things that we're gonna have

01:39:39.940 to do to own this home just may kill us and that it shouldn't be that way but i think that's what's

01:39:44.900 happening so i think the trade-offs now are much higher why isn't anyone running on home ownership

01:39:49.060 that was like a pillar of american because you gotta shut down the real estate lobby you gotta

01:39:52.580 shut down all these people you have to stop but they're like the worst people in the world i know

01:39:56.900 they're the worst but people won't tell you know there's this idea that and i think again it's like

01:40:04.420 we are a capitalist country i'm a capitalist i think it's great to make money but i do think that

01:40:08.500 there is a point where consolidation you have all these companies you have three or four companies

01:40:13.220 running everything doing everything you're preventing the spirit of capitalism you're

01:40:17.060 preventing small businesses you're preventing competition you're preventing all these things

01:40:20.340 and you become like kind of a you know you have this conglomerate of all of these different um

01:40:26.820 multinational corporations that just are these nameless faceless blobs that own the government i mean

01:40:32.260 it's just hard to imagine you know people opening a restaurant starting a bed and breakfast uh you know

01:40:40.180 opening a hardware store opening a business they can't do it and i think that now owning a home is

01:40:45.540 the new opening of business where it's like i remember like 20 years ago people like we can't

01:40:49.620 open a business what are you nuts now it's like people going i can't own a home so because i remember

01:40:55.140 people in this country used to open businesses that was also a thing people used to actually have a

01:40:59.700 business and work for themselves that has all been put out i mean there are still people doing that but

01:41:04.900 it's very few and corporations run everything you go to new york city everything's a chase bank

01:41:11.140 everything's a steakhouse that has 15 locations everything is a you know and it used to be like

01:41:16.980 mom and pop diners and stuff that had great food and weren't that expensive and like you know maybe you

01:41:23.060 waited a little longer maybe there's an attitude maybe there's a crazy person there who ran the place

01:41:27.700 who was kind of an eccentric but it was fun now everything is corporate i mean every sushi restaurant

01:41:33.300 looks like every steakhouse and they all look like hedge funds you know what i mean like you go into

01:41:37.700 every place and you're like what does the hedge fund look like just do you kind of marble and like a

01:41:43.220 neurology clinic right so everything and i know you're big on architecture so that's one of my things

01:41:49.780 too is it's like the sameness of everything how hollow and corporate it is um it's designed to just

01:41:57.780 you know exist primarily on a screen um and you know it's like you know you lost a lot that's

01:42:04.020 the thing and people people go oh who cares for small businesses like no but the country you live

01:42:07.940 in is fundamentally different you see different things physically different physically different

01:42:12.180 why does nobody notice that nobody notices nobody cares people are just they're just being ushered

01:42:16.100 into this new thing and nobody's asking everything is the same 10 corporations it's the same 20

01:42:20.900 restaurants you know you go to you go to any town and you have the football stadium the baseball

01:42:25.140 stadium you have uh the two two chain steakhouses everyone's heard of a cheesecake factory a mall

01:42:30.980 a bad area uh some some like historic place that no one goes you know and uh a marriott a hilton a

01:42:40.260 nice old hotel that's kind of broken down but is kind of like charming and it has a brunch on a sunday

01:42:46.580 and then it's surrounded by 45 minutes to an hour of urban decay that's every city in america outside of 10.

01:42:52.420 where's the resistance like when i was a kid there was a group called earth first which i made fun of

01:42:57.380 because they were like liberals or whatever right now i sort of love them but there's nothing like

01:43:00.980 it left and they would just go put sugar in the gas tank of bulldozers you know we're trying to

01:43:06.340 clear cut woods to build a development and their point they were kind of kaczynskiites

01:43:12.020 well corporations have done a great job of going we love you we like you we actually think you're great we

01:43:17.860 we think it's great um we're progressive we everything you're into we're into uh everything

01:43:24.900 that you know the internet says is good we're kind of we vibe with uh we totally are we're open to

01:43:32.420 everything we're gonna do everything you want if you want a black female ceo you're gonna get one

01:43:36.340 you're not gonna we're not stopping the sweat shops but you're gonna get you're gonna get a black

01:43:40.420 female ceo you might you know you we can get anything you want we will do anything you want

01:43:46.100 you want a polyamorous orgy here at chase we'll do it we'll do it we're gonna foreclose on everyone's

01:43:52.420 house but we'll do that and they keep moving the goal post around where you're kind of confused you

01:43:57.140 go what exactly is happening and that's why i'm amazed at their ability to do when we grew up we always

01:44:03.460 looked at these corporate wall street guys they're all you're all fucking criminals yes and you know we're

01:44:08.580 watching our own backs even though we know you need to make money and maybe there's a way for

01:44:13.700 us to make money together but we always got to watch our backs the tech people are now very much like

01:44:18.820 we're utopians we're great we're good everything's good we drink green juices we ride bikes we care

01:44:24.500 about the environment we care about you um and that's it you know all the 14 year olds are killing

01:44:29.380 themselves because of our product but yeah we're good people and there's something really scary about

01:44:36.500 people that come to you it's always very and i'm just the type of guy where if somebody comes to

01:44:41.620 me out of nowhere and goes hi i care about you i love you and i care about you and i want you to

01:44:46.340 have the best life ever and i go cool what what's this about because i know what's coming next

01:44:52.420 you know which is rape yeah what's coming next is just get in this van

01:44:56.180 so i think we have a situation where the tech people are kind of saying get in the van

01:45:13.060 i hate this is i can't believe i'm saying this but that's like a brilliant analysis yeah

01:45:17.140 really smart i'm not i'm not inviting you into the van yeah that's a sincere praise uh

01:45:26.100 so that's like um a much more effective but also a much more sort of female approach

01:45:31.940 yeah rather than just like you know just do old-fashioned fascism or old-fashioned feudalism

01:45:37.140 yeah like i'm the lord you're the serf yeah you don't like it i'm gonna flog you yeah there's

01:45:42.020 something kind of straightforward and less threatening about that right yes i mean there's

01:45:46.980 something straightforward about knowing people's intentions intentions are big and if they're out

01:45:54.420 in the open i'm much more comfortable if i know why if i walk into uh if you walk on a car lot and

01:46:02.660 somebody comes up to you to sell you a car it's completely understandable whether that person's honest

01:46:09.460 or not whether they're going to give you a good deal or not you know exactly what they're trying

01:46:14.180 to do and you know what their end goal is they want to sell you a car so they yeah yeah exactly

01:46:19.460 when someone's trying to remake the world you live in for your benefit and you have no idea why they're

01:46:27.540 trying to do it and you have no idea what it will look like you have no concept of what this world is

01:46:32.660 going to look like we were all promised this world is this tech world's going to connect everybody

01:46:36.580 everybody all this stuff and the free and open exchange of ideas and information what it's kind

01:46:40.660 of becomes this lonely isolating thing where everybody you know teenagers are being severely

01:46:46.660 damaged by uh these products that are out there it's it's not good there are people that are

01:46:53.860 their mental health has deteriorated on these platforms right um and you know there doesn't seem to be

01:47:00.580 any accountability nobody cares there's a few books about it and a few people are upset about it

01:47:05.060 it's also very co-opted by you know you also have the political angle too where it's like

01:47:10.100 everyone's talking about banning tiktok and i'm sure tiktok has spyware and what else but everyone's

01:47:14.020 talking about it because kids are now sitting down at the table with their family and watching the gaza

01:47:19.620 stuff they're going why are we shooting this baby in the face and their family is going well you know

01:47:25.140 there's a very good reason there's a good reason for it i want you to focus on your driving test

01:47:30.900 and you go yeah but they're lighting these people on fire and so now all these kids are getting

01:47:34.740 information from tiktok and nobody likes it nobody likes it so now it's going now it's gonna oh so

01:47:41.060 it's not banning tiktok is not an effort a last-ditch effort to save us from china i don't think they

01:47:46.340 yeah no they don't care about your kids mental health i don't think they ever have i don't think

01:47:50.020 they're interested in your kids mental health they're not interested in your mental health they're

01:47:53.860 not interested in the mental health of uh anybody so they're certainly not interested in your kids

01:47:58.740 mental health and they're not banning tiktok because they care about your kids mental health

01:48:02.740 that's just completely untrue now you know i i'm not saying that tiktok's uh an innocuous thing i'm

01:48:08.660 sure there's things in tiktok that i'm unaware of but their reasons for it are not

01:48:15.860 the ones they're saying what's your relationship with technology i use it for work i have to use it

01:48:22.020 um but like be specific yeah it's enabled yeah it's enabled me to make uh a career out of what i

01:48:29.620 do so i'm very i'm very excited about and i think we have to live with it it's not something we can

01:48:34.660 become luddites and just you know i go on my you know i have you know i'll post clips of things i've

01:48:42.420 done i will read a lot so i read i go to drudge i read all these things yeah every day i read a lot and

01:48:48.980 then i go to instagram and you know things like that and i post where i'm going to be and so you

01:48:55.380 know here i'm going to be here if you want to come see me or if i'm going to do whatever and then you

01:48:59.700 know i go in and record a podcast usually once or twice a week twice a week every week and then you

01:49:05.940 know the clips are cut i post the clips everything like that it's a relatively healthy relationship

01:49:10.980 you can't start reading about yourself i don't read about myself rogan taught me that he's like

01:49:14.660 don't read about yourself and he's right um good or bad he's right to just ignore it and do what

01:49:19.540 you're going to do so smart he's right about 100 of that so i don't really read about it but you know

01:49:25.460 i don't i didn't grow i remember growing up without it i remember not having access to a smartphone until

01:49:33.300 i was probably in you know blackberry was uh i was in college you're not even 40 though right yeah i'm 39

01:49:40.020 but i was kind of late to the game so it sounds like you um probably in the last year of american

01:49:47.380 children not to marinate in technology from birth yeah we were the last year we were half in half

01:49:52.820 out like we were certainly not marinating in it from birth we we we were a generation of people that

01:49:59.220 started and some of us were more savvy than others but it started in middle school but no it didn't

01:50:07.140 come on anywhere nearly as strong as it comes on for kids now because we didn't have smartphones

01:50:13.300 attached to us you know i mean i had a flip phone in high school it was like who care you could call

01:50:17.140 your friend exactly tax but it wasn't you weren't inundated all day with these things but do you

01:50:21.620 make an it sounds like you make an effort just to answer your question for you yeah to connect with

01:50:26.260 people directly rather than just yes i love going and seeing people who i i believe in that i'll go out

01:50:33.700 i'll leave the earth doing that meaning like i don't want to be a part of the i mean i might have

01:50:39.780 to to some degree to be for my career but i don't want to be in a metaverse i don't want to be in a

01:50:44.740 virtual world i know that that has no appeal to me it sounds like you literally fly around to see

01:50:48.740 people i do yeah i do yeah no one does that yeah i know it's interesting i know it's important to see

01:50:55.060 people stay in their bubbles i like to see people all the time i like to talk to people but physically

01:50:59.300 yeah yeah you got to be in there's something about a friendship that i believe needs a physical

01:51:04.660 dimension it doesn't mean you have to see them all the time but like the idea that you can have

01:51:08.180 dinner with someone even if it's once or twice a year but the idea that you can be in their presence

01:51:12.020 is important to me and it's not just somebody that exists uh you know online in the digital

01:51:17.380 and you don't just do that for work reasons you know i do it socially i do it to see people

01:51:21.940 yeah i want to know what's going on i don't think you know what's going on reading text i agree

01:51:27.780 completely yeah is that why you've managed to stay sane despite being on the road all the time

01:51:33.140 well i mean sane's a relative term but i think it helps it helps to see people and get out of the

01:51:38.340 world of uh you know whatever the entertainment business is and just see see friends and people

01:51:43.300 that are raising kids and have businesses and have lives and live in different parts of the country

01:51:47.300 and are excited about different things and are have challenges i don't have and have the

01:51:51.460 aspirations that i find very interesting and helping them in any way that i can or or going there to

01:51:56.420 like you know just hang out with them and their families it's important to me to go and see the

01:52:01.060 actual people living life i'm a big fan of that i yeah i think people staying in a place i understand

01:52:08.260 that people have to do it there was economic conditions in my life where i had to do it um

01:52:13.380 but now that i have the ability to kind of go and travel and meet people it's i think it's a cool

01:52:17.060 thing to do how do you not go crazy on the road all the time um it's difficult i think it's difficult

01:52:26.820 because i have to record this show every i'm always somewhere where i have to do the podcast

01:52:32.740 twice a week so i try to like i said when i'm on the road i try to bookend things where i can visit

01:52:40.100 friends see people old friends of mine will come out to a show and we'll go out and grab dinner take

01:52:45.700 a walk around their neighborhood there is something to me about trying to connect with

01:52:49.620 people that i wasn't as important to me now i'm older it's become really important it was important

01:52:53.700 to me you know if you came to me in five six years ago i'd go who cares you know now if someone out

01:52:59.060 of nowhere goes hey we went to high school together uh and and i'm like and they're even weirded out by

01:53:04.020 to go i saw you're performing everything and i go what are you doing and they're like uh i don't know

01:53:10.020 i'm like i got nothing to do on saturday and i will go to their house we'll take walks well

01:53:15.300 i want to connect with people now i think you do not spend 12 hours in a hotel room no no no no i try

01:53:22.100 my hardest to meet people that i know or go to a place i find interesting

01:53:30.260 you must a million people who spend their lives like you do on the road and they all kind of go insane

01:53:34.740 or get addicted to something weird i don't think you can do it forever so i think i'm 39 i think

01:53:38.500 i've got a few years left i don't think i'll be doing this forever on the road i do believe that

01:53:42.340 i do believe that there's an end point to it sorry agents um but i do believe that eventually

01:53:47.060 you have to say like okay i've done enough and i've seen enough and this has been great but i'm

01:53:52.500 going to do it a lot less frequently so i don't think but there's a lot of people that listen

01:53:57.060 everybody battles with things on the road the road is a difficult place to be because you're

01:54:02.580 taken out of your environment oh yeah you're dropped in this thing and the comforts

01:54:07.700 that people look to i mean we're all everybody battles different things out there you know

01:54:11.460 drugs food sex uh lying you know cheating gambling whatever it is that you are um you know have issues

01:54:19.700 with the road makes it come out so you have to like you have to keep vigilant about certain things so

01:54:24.980 that you're not in like uh you know you don't get into trouble yeah i mean that's why touring musicians

01:54:32.660 die at 27 right right yeah for sure they live hard how many years have you done it i've been on the road

01:54:40.180 now probably about consistently since about 2018 2017 2018 okay so we're under it's under 10 years

01:54:53.940 you know it's been even before that i was doing stuff but it was much less

01:54:59.620 yeah i wasn't like going all over the place i was like staying kind of i was in new york and i would

01:55:04.820 go like to connecticut or pennsylvania or boston or dc but now i'm doing a lot more and i'm all over

01:55:11.380 the country and then we travel internationally too so it's definitely what's the worst you've ever bombed

01:55:16.500 i did um good question i did uh used to do these fundraisers in long island you would get booked and

01:55:24.740 they were very bad rooms for comedy that have these circular tables where people are eating dinner

01:55:30.020 with each other yeah and you would be in the corner of the room with a microphone and they would bring

01:55:34.580 you up and a lot of times you'd be following a performer or a somebody this was a woman who was

01:55:40.580 crying her daughter died of cancer and she was like she was a fighter and we love her and everyone's

01:55:44.180 clapping and then the guy gets up and goes now we have a comedian and i went up i'm doing jokes about

01:55:50.660 like frozen yogurt and stuff and it just didn't it was bad it was bad it was bad because it was

01:55:56.340 utter disinterest there's bombing where people hate you and you can almost feed off the energy

01:56:01.140 yeah hatred and then there's utter disinterest there's other like god this was a bad idea and

01:56:05.700 we're checked out and the worst thing is you knowing it was a bad idea it was a terrible idea

01:56:10.100 i shouldn't be there and we shouldn't have done this what's what joke is offending people more than

01:56:14.180 any other i have a bit about the ukraine people don't like really i do yeah what do you say

01:56:19.460 um well i can't say it here because then no one will see me but no i'm kidding uh it's it's uh what

01:56:25.140 do i say i say what do i say i say um i describe this scene where i say this guy zelinski you know

01:56:36.660 i said i don't like him he's ripped he's good looking and he wants money there's nothing worse

01:56:40.020 than a good-looking guy that can't have he doesn't know where to get any money and i go he he pops up in

01:56:46.100 the middle of the grammy awards when you're just trying to watch wet ass pussy with your children

01:56:51.380 and i said you call them into the room and you bring out your pregnant 12 year old and she's

01:56:55.220 twerking in the living room and your other kid comes out and they're non-verbal and they're just

01:56:59.540 in the back kind of swaying and this guy from a country you've never heard of wants money and i go

01:57:04.820 vladimir putin's maybe not a great guy but so far he's asked me for zero dollars i agree and i and you

01:57:10.900 know people some people did not like it they didn't like it some people didn't like some people

01:57:15.220 like it but it's fine you know to me it's fine it's just funny the idea of what a mess

01:57:19.860 a lot of the people are in this country that we're asking for money i know that makes me laugh the idea

01:57:26.500 that they're like i'm just describing this crazy scene and then the guy and then they're like wait

01:57:31.700 yeah i mean it's just funny to me it's just funny to me the idea that it's like

01:57:36.260 this you gotta get yeah these people so important it's absolutely more it's more important than your own

01:57:40.580 children like yeah so that was kind of you've never been to russia right i've never been i tried

01:57:45.460 to go we went on a tour we were in finland which is close very right there border and i was standing

01:57:54.260 in my hotel lobby going i want to go to st petersburg for dinner the woman's like we're a nato country i

01:57:59.540 go great i would really like to go i said i'll fly private i'll pay she goes no no you can't go to

01:58:05.300 russia so and then i think one of your buddies texted me one of your guys said that uh

01:58:10.420 because i asked i said how do i get in because you have to go through

01:58:14.500 a non-nato country you gotta go through whatever turkey or serbia and i was like oh that's a whole

01:58:18.660 thing so but i wanted to go i wanted to go to dinner it's a great restaurant i want to go to

01:58:22.820 are you gonna go i would love to go yeah i mean i i've never um i've never been but i like

01:58:29.380 it you know it's there's tons of beautiful architecture and you know amazing great restaurants

01:58:34.020 texture yeah i want to go back you should come let's go i'm i'm into it i'm in would your agent

01:58:39.300 drop you if you went no you sure no i don't think so he might book me in russia no my agent's a real

01:58:45.860 money-grubbing monster really he's a real monster if you said to your i might be in latvia on a corner

01:58:53.860 like this but with a microphone but yeah what was i just so your agent has never like had moral qualms

01:58:59.860 with anything you do my agent wouldn't know what a moral qualm was if you took out a dictionary and

01:59:05.780 explained it to him he's a good guy he um you know i'm would it be his favorite thing that i was

01:59:12.020 in russia perhaps not but he wouldn't drop me is there anything you could do that would make him drop

01:59:16.980 you sure absolutely um you know i mean i think they drop you for all kinds of reasons but i don't

01:59:24.660 know i i would say the most dangerous thing for me to do that would get my agency to drop me would be

01:59:31.460 to like like assert my humanity i am not an animal i am a man yeah that would be tough i think that would

01:59:40.500 be hard last question do you um so of all the comedians working today the top ones what percentage

01:59:48.660 of those are so i'm saying exactly what they really think most of them and i think that

01:59:56.180 the really good ones are funny and i think the most important thing is to be funny and then you

02:00:00.340 know a lot of times that is comes from a place of saying what you feel yeah and sometimes it comes

02:00:05.780 from a place of of creating great characters and it can come from many different places but

02:00:11.620 certainly if you know you say what you want and you take ownership of it and you say it in a way

02:00:18.340 that people find funny or interesting that's the job that's the only job that's why it's a great job is

02:00:24.420 because it's really like the second oldest job and the oldest job i you know i don't think i'd be great

02:00:30.820 at um um i certainly wouldn't command the prices i do in the second oldest job which is being kind of

02:00:36.580 a town crier just yeah it's all we do is you know we're standing in the town square and going hey

02:00:40.900 hey what's going you know and so i think a lot of them are saying well and i think that that's that's

02:00:45.620 going to be the major shift i think people that's what people are connecting to and i think it's just

02:00:49.140 interesting like the guys who dominated the business 10 years ago not all but many seem to be in

02:00:55.860 terminal decline and those yeah some of them seem like people who are sort of reading a script or or

02:01:02.420 who approached their job with a lot of things they were not allowed to say well i think it's

02:01:09.380 the platforms change the you know what was tv is now the internet yes what was film is now all digital

02:01:17.780 for the most part there are films and everything um and the platforms the internet has a lot more

02:01:23.540 freedom there are a lot of restrictions and there are all kinds of profit models and you know

02:01:29.300 monetization issues with all kinds of sites and whatever but in if you look at it overall there's

02:01:36.820 a lot more freedom on the internet than there is in a corporate advertiser supported network

02:01:45.460 so the freedom to say things now has increased um and i think a lot of the people that

02:01:52.420 existed 10 years ago weren't part of that system so maybe if they were maybe they would have had

02:01:59.940 you know maybe they would have felt more comfortable i think they just came up at a

02:02:04.020 time when there were sensors and everything you said had to go through standards and practices and

02:02:08.740 sales and advertising and you know you you had to have all these and you can still do really funny

02:02:13.700 great stuff with all of that but on the internet it's kind of the wild west so you have more freedom

02:02:19.780 now than you did it feels like a lot of freedom it feels like people are saying kind of exactly what

02:02:24.420 they think right now i think so i think so how long can that continue i mean that's a threat

02:02:29.220 i think it's also we all feel not to be cryptic but i do feel like not that we're you know i don't

02:02:34.820 want to do the whole like we're living in our last days thing but it does feel like times are too

02:02:39.380 like i feel like we you know things are getting hot all over the world yes and i think people realize

02:02:49.540 the value now of being just let's get out with it it's like when people when they're dying they just

02:02:54.260 kind of say what they need to say i think as our society is dying a little bit people are saying what

02:03:00.340 they need to say i think the time for politeness has gone out the window and niceties and i think people

02:03:05.780 are kind of embracing just the truth of what they have to say because we are living you know in

02:03:11.940 times that are that are certainly you know wild and perilous and you know you're looking at russia

02:03:17.620 and china and all these things north korea and you're looking at problems in your own country like

02:03:20.820 fentanyl this that the other thing and it's like you know the idyllic idea of america has kind of been

02:03:26.020 shattered and i think a lot of people are picking up the pieces of that and they're like listen if i'm

02:03:30.660 going to live in this country and i'm going to exist in this time i'm going to speak and say what

02:03:36.500 i want are we going to look back in five years and see this as like this sort of brief renaissance

02:03:42.660 of free speech before the onslaught of totalitarianism well hopefully not does it yeah i mean it does seem

02:03:51.860 all of a sudden like out of nowhere and even in the past two months yeah that there is for actual free

02:03:57.620 speech yeah i don't i don't think i hope that that isn't the case i don't know i don't have a

02:04:04.820 crystal ball but but how can you continue to run this country in the way that you are if you're the

02:04:09.300 people who are running it and allow people to criticize you this precisely you have to make it

02:04:16.180 financially beneficial you know i mean i think that's the whole thing right like they are going to

02:04:22.900 co-opt the methods of distribution to a degree that you know if we call them pedophiles they'll

02:04:32.180 make money from it that's wow is that dark that's like they're not going to get called pedophiles for

02:04:40.500 free that's the darkest thing i've ever heard so they're not going to shut down the speech they're

02:04:45.940 just going to monetize it monetize the attacks it seems to be a happy medium

02:04:54.180 i'm going to stop there to give myself time to think about what you just said thank you very much

02:04:57.620 for having me by the way and thank you for dinner and everything i really appreciate it i know you

02:05:02.580 hate compliments but that was that was there was some profound well well that's good well thank you

02:05:08.340 thank you much tim dylan appreciate it thank you buddy thanks for listening to tucker carlson

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Tim Dillon： Disney, Boomers, and the Creepy Corporations that Pretend to Love You

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