The Tucker Carlson Show - Tucker and Dan Bongino React to the Trump v. Harris Debate

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00:01:31.220 I'm really happy to be here.

00:01:57.060 Thank you.

00:02:00.200 I know you.

00:02:02.660 This is one of those rooms where, in fact, this is not just one of those rooms.

00:02:08.680 This is one of those states where I really feel like if I knew every person in here, I would like every person in here.

00:02:13.960 I really feel that way.

00:02:17.260 I evaluate people on the basis of my olfactory senses.

00:02:21.760 I really try to be as close to my dogs as I possibly can, and my dogs know instantly whether you're someone they want to have dinner with,

00:02:27.940 and I'm just getting a very strong aroma of good people.

00:02:30.320 So thank you.

00:02:32.960 I'm sorry.

00:02:33.680 I'm a little distracted.

00:02:35.940 I'm a little distracted by last night's debate.

00:02:39.700 And I know everyone has a different experience.

00:02:42.120 I'm sure everyone watched or many people watched.

00:02:43.980 But I woke up thinking just one thing.

00:02:47.000 Kamala Harris has a gun? 0.86

00:02:48.300 What?

00:02:51.800 How can that be allowed?

00:02:53.100 And by the way, why is that not the headline in every paper in the world, internationally, from Frankfurt to Tokyo?

00:03:00.360 I mean, Kamala Harris has a gun. 1.00

00:03:03.740 And I'm about as pro-gun as anybody could be.

00:03:06.100 I carry a gun.

00:03:07.200 I've hunted and shot my entire life.

00:03:10.040 I hunt with my dogs.

00:03:11.060 I could not be more pro-gun.

00:03:12.760 In fact, I'm so pro-gun I don't even talk about it because it makes me too emotional.

00:03:15.240 I don't think Kamala Harris should have a gun. 1.00

00:03:18.540 And she's the only person I've ever said that about.

00:03:22.320 I just don't think she should.

00:03:23.420 I don't believe in red flag laws.

00:03:24.900 I think we can make an exception for her.

00:03:26.520 A gun?

00:03:27.060 Really?

00:03:28.040 No.

00:03:29.480 And is anyone going to ask what kind of gun and why she has it? 0.99

00:03:32.280 She has no idea what side the bullet comes out of.

00:03:36.020 Like, none.

00:03:36.660 I'd love to watch her assess it.

00:03:39.380 I spend an inordinate amount of time watching gun videos on YouTube.

00:03:44.080 You know, like Hickok 45.

00:03:45.500 There's gun reviews or whatever.

00:03:46.540 I can just imagine Kamala Harris being like... 1.00

00:03:48.280 So that was my main thought about last night's debate.

00:03:55.660 I had a lot of other thoughts, too.

00:03:57.280 Some of them quite dark.

00:03:58.840 And so dark that I was pondering it in the shower today.

00:04:03.840 And I want to tell you what I thought because I actually felt like I came to some important conclusions.

00:04:09.920 You can judge for yourselves.

00:04:11.680 And then I'll stop and get to the meat of the show with Dan Bongino, who's such a wonderful person who's here.

00:04:17.980 I'm really honored to have Dan Bongino here.

00:04:22.380 By the way, I was at lunch today downtown.

00:04:24.360 You have some amazing restaurants in Tulsa.

00:04:26.200 And I ran into two great people from Beverly, Massachusetts.

00:04:31.860 What nice people.

00:04:33.620 And...

00:04:33.740 Oh, they're there right there!

00:04:35.520 And by the way, Tulsa is such a nice town that she goes, I want a picture.

00:04:39.340 Oh, I left my phone in the Uber.

00:04:42.240 And all of a sudden, the Uber pulls up.

00:04:43.520 And this woman's like, you left your phone in the Uber. 1.00

00:04:45.040 Here it is.

00:04:46.560 And I thought, what other city...

00:04:47.860 No city I've lived in would any Uber driver say anything other than, oh, a new phone.

00:04:51.940 Awesome.

00:04:53.160 Go, Tulsa! 0.95

00:04:55.420 But anyway, they're like, oh, we're so glad to meet you.

00:04:57.400 But we really came to see Dan Bongino.

00:04:59.560 And I was like, yes, Dan Bongino.

00:05:01.200 I love that.

00:05:02.180 Anyway, here's what I thought.

00:05:03.260 So I'm watching last night.

00:05:05.340 And I thought to myself a couple of things.

00:05:08.200 One, and I've made fun of Kamala Harris since Kamala Harris was dating Montel Williams.

00:05:12.880 I mean, there's really...

00:05:13.680 There's really nobody...

00:05:16.580 I'm kind of an OG Kamala Harris mocker.

00:05:20.520 I've had more fun making fun of Kamala Harris. 0.98

00:05:23.060 I will never stop.

00:05:23.920 I don't care if she becomes emperor of the universe. 1.00

00:05:25.920 I will make fun of her. 0.99

00:05:27.200 I will call her Montel Williams' side piece.

00:05:29.880 I will play the school bus video.

00:05:31.700 Like, I will never stop making fun of Kamala Harris because it brings me such deep joy.

00:05:35.360 Anyway, and I think we should do that.

00:05:38.840 It's a sign of life when we can laugh at someone like Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:05:42.320 And she's inherently ridiculous. 0.93

00:05:45.640 She's not sinister and creepy like the guy she's running with. 0.99

00:05:48.220 I can't even laugh about that guy.

00:05:50.300 Woo! 0.99

00:05:51.920 Not babysitting in my house.

00:05:54.280 But...

00:05:54.840 Sorry, Tim Walls.

00:05:57.260 I know you want to.

00:05:58.400 You can't.

00:05:58.960 But watching Kamala Harris last night actually made the hair of my arms go up because I realized

00:06:06.480 something that I had felt before, which is that she has no limits at all. 1.00

00:06:10.160 At all.

00:06:10.840 This woman has no limits whatsoever. 1.00

00:06:12.980 This is someone who is clearly not a person of faith, doesn't think God is watching, thinks

00:06:17.860 she is God, has no kids, so he doesn't care about, you know, the future and the way that

00:06:21.820 people who have descendants, I'm just being honest, do care.

00:06:24.820 And it feels like she can do anything, actually, and would do anything.

00:06:28.880 And I thought, man, I'm glad I'm not someone she hates because I could...

00:06:33.040 Oh, wait. 0.88

00:06:39.720 Because if I'm being totally honest, she didn't seem like a buffoon last night at all.

00:06:44.000 She seemed like someone with a mission.

00:06:47.180 The mission is to take power.

00:06:49.020 The process for taking power is memorizing a series of lines fed to her by her friends 0.81

00:06:53.340 in Hollywood.

00:06:53.840 She did it.

00:06:54.920 She's dutiful.

00:06:55.480 She's hardworking.

00:06:56.900 And she's scary, absolutely scary as hell.

00:06:59.380 And she has a long track record of putting people she doesn't like in prison. 0.70

00:07:03.240 As one of those people, it gave me pause.

00:07:05.840 And so I had a couple of quick thoughts.

00:07:11.080 Like, can I go anywhere?

00:07:12.120 No, I'm American.

00:07:13.100 I'm not going anywhere.

00:07:14.020 I'm 55. 0.85

00:07:14.860 I will die here, buried with my ancestors.

00:07:17.060 I'm not going anywhere. 0.76

00:07:17.740 So I'm staying.

00:07:20.540 And I mean that.

00:07:22.620 I mean that.

00:07:23.480 Especially, I don't know how much time you spend around rich people, but there is this

00:07:27.080 kind of conversation that you hear if you're around rich people, which is like, well, I'm

00:07:30.960 going to so-and-so.

00:07:31.800 I'm going to so-and-so.

00:07:32.500 And it's like, no.

00:07:33.740 Actually, there's something about burning your boats.

00:07:36.240 And my ancestors burned their boats hundreds of years ago, actually, here.

00:07:38.780 So like, I literally am tied to this country as deeply as anybody can be.

00:07:42.680 But that's the right mindset.

00:07:44.020 No, it's my country, actually.

00:07:45.180 And you're not allowed to come in and just take it over.

00:07:47.360 You know what I mean?

00:07:48.200 And send in new voters from around the world to, like, eat my cat and get you elected.

00:07:55.560 No.

00:07:56.680 I'm not doing that.

00:07:59.120 By the way, the spirit of hilarious resistance lives on the internet.

00:08:02.820 If you haven't looked up cat memes in the last 24 hours, treat yourself.

00:08:07.000 It's like, no matter how dark it gets, there will always be somebody on Twitter who's just

00:08:11.120 like a brilliant person, like brilliant person, who comes up with an even funnier Save Our Cats

00:08:16.500 meme.

00:08:16.720 Anyway.

00:08:16.880 But I thought, no, I'm not going anywhere.

00:08:21.100 And I thought, you know, this woman actually scares me for the first time. 0.69

00:08:25.220 You know, it was funny to make fun of her when she was this person who no one has ever

00:08:28.960 voted for or ever liked.

00:08:30.260 She has no fans anywhere.

00:08:32.480 And for those of us who grew up in a system based on the idea that, you know, in order

00:08:36.040 to wield power, you have to have the consent of the governed.

00:08:38.280 Do you remember that?

00:08:39.620 That was actually the idea the country was founded on.

00:08:42.180 That government has no legitimacy apart from the approval of citizens, period, because

00:08:48.800 we own the country and they don't.

00:08:50.660 Kamala Harris does not own the country.

00:08:52.340 The people who work for Kamala Harris do not own the country.

00:08:55.000 Federal bureaucrats don't own the country. 1.00

00:08:56.080 The mayor of your town doesn't own the country.

00:08:59.100 Anybody who works for the government works for you because you own the country, period.

00:09:03.840 And kind of like any other job, you serve at the pleasure of the employer, as I found

00:09:13.960 out personally a year and a half ago.

00:09:16.120 And that's all right.

00:09:17.500 You know, I wasn't mad about it.

00:09:18.840 That's fair.

00:09:19.380 That seemed fair to me.

00:09:20.680 The person who owns it gets to decide who works there, right?

00:09:25.160 So, you know, that's just the most basic arrangement in the world.

00:09:28.260 If you catch your housekeeper stealing, she doesn't get to lecture you, right?

00:09:34.060 You get to fire her because you're her employer. 0.85

00:09:37.060 And our government servants, you know, or they're our servants.

00:09:41.580 They belong to us because this country belongs to us, period.

00:09:45.500 And so I've never really been afraid of any politician in my life because why would you

00:09:52.180 be in your own country?

00:09:53.300 It's my country.

00:09:54.460 If I do something wrong and you can prove it, then put me away.

00:09:57.040 That seems fair to me.

00:09:58.480 But you can't just hurt me because you don't like my politics or because I criticize you 0.99

00:10:01.860 or because I point out that you're incompetent, greedy, and dishonest. 0.97

00:10:04.580 That's not allowed. 0.99

00:10:06.500 You can't put me in jail or for pointing out that your friends killed Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:09.880 Sorry.

00:10:10.600 You're the criminal, not me.

00:10:13.300 Right?

00:10:14.500 So there's really never been a time where I felt like, ooh, this is scary.

00:10:20.340 And it made me mad, really mad, really mad.

00:10:23.540 It actually enraged me.

00:10:26.840 And it was only after getting a text from one of my many children who was like, I think 0.99

00:10:31.100 Trump did a great job and Kamala's an idiot and everything's going to be fine that I calm 0.99

00:10:35.000 down a little bit. 1.00

00:10:35.760 But I, and she may be right. 0.75

00:10:37.740 I hope so.

00:10:38.240 But I did think like, what are the perils to me, to all of us in a moment like this?

00:10:45.720 And that's probably not going to jail.

00:10:47.200 I mean, there are just too many, 350 million people.

00:10:49.320 Like we don't have the capacity to throw all the thought criminals in prison.

00:10:53.180 We could throw some, but not all.

00:10:55.020 Most of us are not going to jail.

00:10:56.360 The real threat actually is a much deeper threat to ourselves.

00:11:01.060 So I have noticed for the past, say, 10 years, I've been in this, roughly this business for

00:11:07.040 almost 35 years.

00:11:08.680 It's really accelerated in the last 10 years where everyone who disagrees with the people

00:11:12.300 in power is a bad person, is some species of hater.

00:11:16.280 It's not just that you're wrong about tax rates or even gun control or abortion. 0.87

00:11:20.820 It's that you're, you hate women or you're a racist or, you know, you're some species 0.97

00:11:24.860 of bigot. 0.99

00:11:25.520 You're morally impaired.

00:11:26.800 And of course, the irony is that in general, the people they call those names are the best

00:11:32.940 people in America, actually.

00:11:36.700 You know, they're the most likely to help their neighbors, no matter what their neighbors look

00:11:41.540 like.

00:11:42.660 They're the most likely to leave the beleaguered waitress a big tip, actually. 1.00

00:11:47.740 Studies have been shown, have been done on this that show that people with our views are

00:11:52.800 much more likely to give to charity, much more.

00:11:55.840 How much do you think Kamala Harris tips? 0.50

00:11:58.160 Right around zero, right?

00:12:01.520 And so actually, it's a pure inversion of the truth.

00:12:06.240 It is a really dark lie.

00:12:08.980 It's an evil lie.

00:12:09.880 It's a sign, actually, of evil when you lie like that.

00:12:12.500 There are many different ways to lie.

00:12:14.140 And those of you who have children are familiar with a lot of them because kids lie.

00:12:18.160 And it's always a little bit shocking when you catch your four-year-old who's like the

00:12:21.360 center of your life and the most beautiful, pure being ever to exist.

00:12:25.040 And you catch that child lying because, you know, that's just part of what it is to be

00:12:29.000 human.

00:12:29.660 We're all fallen.

00:12:30.960 But the way that kids lie is so instructive.

00:12:33.800 And so, and I'm sure you've seen it.

00:12:35.140 Like, you come downstairs in the morning and, like, the Oreos are gone.

00:12:38.220 And your four-year-old comes down and you're like, did you eat the Oreos?

00:12:45.440 And the four-year-old is totally ashamed to be caught because the four-year-old wants your

00:12:50.660 love and acceptance and, you know, does not want you to be mad at him.

00:12:54.800 But he knows that he did it.

00:12:57.020 And so he tells a lie that's like three degrees off the truth.

00:13:00.200 He's like, well, I had one.

00:13:03.780 Well, there were 11 Oreos here, Dylan.

00:13:06.080 Like, what happened to the other 10?

00:13:07.300 And I don't know.

00:13:08.280 I had, well, maybe two.

00:13:10.800 And, like, every parent has seen this.

00:13:12.760 And that's a very, and you scold the child for lying because you want to raise honest

00:13:16.640 children.

00:13:17.020 In fact, that's really what you want out of life is honest children.

00:13:19.200 It's the most important thing.

00:13:20.200 Honesty is the most important thing.

00:13:22.380 However, it's an understandable kind of lie.

00:13:24.640 That's not the kind of lie that our leaders tell us.

00:13:27.360 The kind of lie the leaders tell us is the exact mirror image, the photographic negative

00:13:33.280 of the truth.

00:13:34.220 It's the opposite of the truth.

00:13:35.520 So if you caught Kamala Harris and said, Kamala Harris, did you eat those Oreos?

00:13:42.240 She would say, no, you did.

00:13:45.560 You ate those Oreos. 0.99

00:13:47.360 You racist. 0.98

00:13:48.240 And there's something very effective about that because it throws you off. 0.84

00:13:56.660 It's like, wait, these are the people.

00:13:58.520 So I'm 55.

00:13:59.240 I grew up in a world that kind of thought Martin Luther King was onto something.

00:14:01.940 And we should judge our fellow Americans because there are fellow Americans.

00:14:04.960 We're in this together.

00:14:06.140 We share this country.

00:14:07.140 We should judge them by what they're like as people.

00:14:11.760 And the Christians among us, which in my childhood was most of us, understood that God created

00:14:16.100 all of us.

00:14:17.460 We're all created by God.

00:14:18.840 Period.

00:14:19.820 So we all have that divine spark within us.

00:14:23.620 So you may be super annoyed at somebody, but in the end, God created him too.

00:14:27.440 So you can't write people off on the basis of how they look.

00:14:31.200 You can definitely write them off on the way they behave.

00:14:33.600 Fair.

00:14:34.420 But not on how they were born.

00:14:35.420 That's unfair.

00:14:36.040 Everyone understood that.

00:14:37.020 But people like Kamala Harris have created a system that's pretty common to the system 0.89

00:14:41.120 we claimed we hated, where everyone is judged by their appearance and their genetics before

00:14:46.500 any other factor.

00:14:47.500 That's racist, okay?

00:14:48.680 That's the definition of racist.

00:14:50.120 That's what we said we hated.

00:14:51.120 She did that. 0.99

00:14:51.780 And so for her to turn around and tell me, or you, who actually would like to live in

00:14:57.260 a colorblind meritocracy, which was like the promise of this country, that you're the

00:15:01.360 racist, it's like, no, you ate the Oreos, honey.

00:15:04.200 I didn't.

00:15:06.400 But there's something about that kind of lying that throws you off base.

00:15:12.980 It's like shocking.

00:15:13.960 It's like so stunning that someone could lie with that little effect.

00:15:22.280 Like all of us, like a normal person, not even a good, particularly good person, like

00:15:25.760 let's just say me, you don't feel good telling a lie.

00:15:30.120 Like your face twitches or you kind of look down.

00:15:32.740 You can't make eye contact.

00:15:33.980 Will you lie?

00:15:34.300 I watched Kamala Harris last night. 1.00

00:15:36.360 You ate the Oreos.

00:15:38.500 And you're like, wow, maybe I did.

00:15:42.880 Because nobody could make that claim unless there was a little bit of truth to it.

00:15:46.380 Maybe I had one Oreo.

00:15:47.080 Maybe I was sleepwalking.

00:15:48.040 Maybe I had a head injury.

00:15:49.040 Did I have a stroke?

00:15:52.380 I remember this.

00:15:54.240 I remember being called, the first time someone called me racist, I was like, huh?

00:15:59.820 First of all, that's awful.

00:16:00.780 I don't want to be called that.

00:16:01.700 But I remember thinking about it.

00:16:02.780 Am I a racist?

00:16:04.240 No.

00:16:05.360 Actually, I just don't like you. 0.98

00:16:06.540 And you're a rich white lady. 1.00

00:16:09.000 I don't think that's racism. 0.92

00:16:10.200 I just don't like you.

00:16:12.140 Anyway, after a while, watching people lie like that, and particularly watching them lie

00:16:18.680 in the very specific way they do, which is accusing you of moral crimes, it can make you

00:16:23.980 enraged.

00:16:25.120 And here's what can happen.

00:16:26.140 And I think this is part of the design.

00:16:27.520 It can turn you into a hater, actually.

00:16:30.300 They call you a hater enough, it will make you hate.

00:16:33.340 It will.

00:16:34.020 Maybe not on racial lines or whatever, but it'll fill you with hate.

00:16:38.140 To be attacked like that so unfairly, and to watch people wreck a country that your ancestors

00:16:42.720 built, that they did nothing to build at all, and to sort of give it away to the rest

00:16:46.360 of the world, give cell phones to people here illegally, what?

00:16:49.220 There's nothing more insulting than that.

00:16:51.220 You know?

00:16:51.660 There's nothing more insulting than that.

00:16:52.920 You can't afford a house, but they're giving housing vouchers to someone who broke the law

00:16:56.240 to get here?

00:16:58.380 What?

00:17:00.000 You don't have to be anti-immigrant, which I'm not, by the way.

00:17:04.700 I'm hardly anti-immigrant.

00:17:06.000 That's just, I'm against that because that's the most unfair and insulting thing anyone's

00:17:09.200 ever done.

00:17:10.500 You're treating our country like a rental car.

00:17:15.380 Seriously.

00:17:16.060 Like a rental car.

00:17:18.080 Like you're scraping against, you know, barriers in the Walmart parking lot and not changing

00:17:22.280 the oil.

00:17:22.540 Like you don't care, and that can fill you with hate after a while, and I would argue

00:17:30.340 because I do think this is spiritual.

00:17:31.840 I don't think any of this is political, actually.

00:17:34.400 I think the goal is destruction.

00:17:36.700 The goal is lying for its own sake.

00:17:40.800 The goal is to break things, actually.

00:17:44.100 There's no effort to build anything.

00:17:46.580 They're always telling you they're going to make a better society.

00:17:48.480 Okay, go ahead.

00:17:49.140 By the way, if Kamala Harris, like, just fixed the roads, made the DMV a little better,

00:17:56.680 you know what I mean?

00:17:57.580 Drop the price of breakfast cereal by a dollar, I'd probably, you know, I wouldn't like her. 1.00

00:18:01.480 I wouldn't agree with her on tons of issues.

00:18:02.940 I mean, it's like you're doing something.

00:18:04.660 You're making things a little better.

00:18:05.660 Kind of hard to deny that.

00:18:06.860 I'm for progress, actually.

00:18:07.920 I think most of us are.

00:18:09.500 No.

00:18:09.660 It's only about destruction.

00:18:12.460 And part of the thing they seek to destroy is you from within.

00:18:17.420 They call you a hater in the hope that you'll become one.

00:18:21.060 That's true.

00:18:23.340 And you just can't let them.

00:18:25.020 You can't let them do that.

00:18:25.980 And so how do you, and the reason, the reason that you can't let them do that is not for

00:18:35.340 some, like, abstract principle.

00:18:36.920 I mean, again, I'm a Christian.

00:18:37.800 I think that would be wrong.

00:18:39.580 But it's not just because I disagree with it ideologically.

00:18:44.140 It's because you don't want to live in hate.

00:18:46.900 And as someone who lived in D.C. for a long time, I saw it.

00:18:49.700 I saw people I really loved and respect to become completely consumed with hatred.

00:18:53.400 Almost all on the left, maybe some on the right, but not that I can think of.

00:18:56.980 I'm sure there are.

00:18:58.780 But the Trump thing, I watched that whole thing.

00:19:01.260 And I watched people who were, and I'm thinking of one of my closest friends who was like a

00:19:04.720 wonderful person, nice family, very smart, way smarter than I am, become so obsessed

00:19:10.680 with hating Trump.

00:19:12.520 Not disliking Trump or disagreeing with Trump or calling him orange, all of which is fine.

00:19:17.100 It's kind of hilarious.

00:19:18.220 That's okay.

00:19:18.700 But actually, hating to the point where his entire world revolved around hating this one

00:19:24.180 guy, to the exclusion of everything else, including love and joy.

00:19:28.580 And I watched, and I'm sure you've seen that.

00:19:30.340 Maybe they don't have that in Oklahoma.

00:19:32.320 But in the other 49 states, it's pretty common.

00:19:36.300 And, you know, a lot of it is just displacing your own unhappiness or frustration with being

00:19:40.840 middle-aged or whatever, the sadness of life, onto something else.

00:19:44.000 There's that.

00:19:44.620 But it's also true on a much deeper level that hating itself is bad for you.

00:19:49.240 It does not help you at all.

00:19:51.000 It doesn't help you achieve your goals.

00:19:52.640 And your first goal ought to be to love the people around you.

00:19:55.300 That is your duty.

00:19:56.460 Okay?

00:19:56.680 That's the reason you're here, is to help people around you.

00:20:01.780 And you can't do that when you're filled with hate because you're completely distracted

00:20:05.460 by this rage within you.

00:20:06.760 And it diminishes you.

00:20:08.320 And so you have to keep that out because you'll become like them.

00:20:13.940 And if you become like them, then what is the point of the exercise?

00:20:16.180 You might as well join them, get a job at some private equity firm, you know what I mean?

00:20:20.000 And just, like, be them.

00:20:22.320 It's actually, it pays a lot better to be them.

00:20:25.920 In the last election, Bobby Kennedy just told me this.

00:20:28.760 He's a wonderful man, by the way.

00:20:30.420 I didn't know what I thought, but I think a lot of him now.

00:20:32.820 He told me that in the 2020 election, Joe Biden's voters, I think there were several

00:20:41.520 billion of them.

00:20:42.140 I can't remember the exact number.

00:20:45.000 It was two or three times the population of the earth voted for Joe Biden.

00:20:50.580 But in this country, just in this country, Joe Biden's voters held 70% of the wealth in

00:20:56.660 the United States and Donald Trump's voters held 30%.

00:21:00.900 So that tells you how the parties have completely inverted.

00:21:04.940 And so for working people or people who've been excluded from the current completely fake

00:21:08.440 economy that they've created for themselves and their own enrichment, it's Trump is the

00:21:13.380 party for those people, okay?

00:21:15.260 And so I guess if you wanted to be rich, if you want to participate in the fake economy

00:21:19.000 that doesn't actually make anything, it just loots, you would already be on their side.

00:21:22.720 But you're not because your conscience won't allow you to be.

00:21:25.260 So don't destroy yourself through hate.

00:21:27.560 And the other thing that they're all about is violence.

00:21:29.260 It's hurting people.

00:21:30.900 And, you know, I've been on the right my entire life.

00:21:33.660 And one of the things that I think we forgot is that it is absolutely wrong.

00:21:36.820 It is immoral.

00:21:37.580 In fact, it is the greatest sin to kill people except in self-defense, period.

00:21:41.140 And that's a pretty clear religious order, actually.

00:21:43.440 It's in the books that we have that we refer to constantly.

00:21:46.440 And you can argue about what self-defense is and a lot of really smart, decent people have.

00:21:51.620 And I've got a wide strike zone for that.

00:21:53.140 And I'm not judging anybody. 0.99

00:21:54.480 I'm only saying if you're taking glee in shedding human blood, you're a monster and you're serving 0.99

00:21:59.000 a monster, which is called Satan, actually. 0.99

00:22:01.680 And you should never, ever take joy in shedding human blood. 0.96

00:22:06.300 Sorry.

00:22:06.580 It's kind of weird to feel like that's a controversial statement, but it shouldn't be.

00:22:11.720 It's very obvious.

00:22:12.620 And it's terrible for you to worship the suffering of other people or violence or human sacrifice,

00:22:17.640 which they worship.

00:22:18.380 They had an abortion ban outside their convention.

00:22:20.460 Like, it couldn't be clearer.

00:22:21.320 So, that's just killing for its own sake because you think you're, you know, going to be more

00:22:27.260 powerful when you shed human blood.

00:22:29.200 So, I think the response to them, here's what I would argue.

00:22:33.180 The response to them, whatever happens, you cannot let them steal your soul.

00:22:39.660 And so, the first thing to remember is that the only real way to judge how you are doing

00:22:48.660 is not by living on the internet or some social media app or externalizing all of your fears

00:22:54.660 and anxieties onto some politician or political campaign or whatever.

00:22:58.000 It's to look around to the people around you in your orbit, the people for whom you're responsible.

00:23:05.940 And responsibility occurs, in my opinion, in concentric circles.

00:23:09.800 And this is an act of God in the life of every human being.

00:23:12.940 God puts people right around you and then a little farther out around you and then a little

00:23:16.280 farther out and your job is to work from closest to you outward to make sure everyone's okay

00:23:21.080 and well served.

00:23:22.200 And then when they are, you move to the next circle and then the next circle.

00:23:25.020 And then finally, when every single person who's related to you, who went to school with

00:23:29.620 you, who works for you, who works with you, who lives down the street from you, when they're

00:23:33.520 all fine, then you can send mosquito nets to another country to help people you don't

00:23:37.740 know.

00:23:37.940 But the first responsibility, the reason you are here, is to love the people around you.

00:23:49.620 Hey, it's Tucker Carlson.

00:23:51.200 I am not in the studio.

00:23:52.720 I'm in the, and you can hear it in the audio probably, I'm in the back of an SUV outside

00:23:56.960 a hotel in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:23:59.300 I think it's Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:24:00.360 Anyway, we're on the road for this month-long tour and there's a lot going on in the world.

00:24:05.620 And the question is, how do you understand what's happening?

00:24:09.020 I mean, it's not all on Twitter.

00:24:10.180 Sorry, much as we love Twitter.

00:24:11.860 There are deeper trends unfolding.

00:24:14.680 You probably sense that and it would be helpful to have some grounding in exactly what they

00:24:19.140 are.

00:24:19.360 And if you're like me and you spent four years in college and didn't learn all that

00:24:22.280 much, where do you go to understand what's happening to your world?

00:24:27.200 Well, Hillsdale College, in our opinion, is one of the very few places left in the English

00:24:32.400 speaking world where your kids can get a real education.

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00:24:40.040 You can get them anywhere, including in the backseat of an SUV outside a hotel in Tulsa,

00:24:44.500 Oklahoma.

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00:24:47.560 Go to TuckerForHillsdale.com and they have an amazing new course called Marxism, Socialism,

00:24:53.900 and Communism.

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00:24:56.060 It doesn't cost you a dime and you can pull it up right on your phone if you want.

00:24:59.120 Go to TuckerForHillsdale.com and the class Marxism, Socialism, and Communism, and you'll

00:25:06.700 have a much better understanding of what you're watching every day.

00:25:09.380 Well, it's true and it's obviously true.

00:25:26.160 Someone just said preach.

00:25:26.980 That's the last thing I'm qualified to do.

00:25:28.720 I grew up an Episcopalian.

00:25:29.980 Are you joking?

00:25:31.120 I don't even think that's allowed.

00:25:32.740 I'm not allowed to preach and I shouldn't be.

00:25:35.700 My job is to notice the obvious things.

00:25:39.260 And if God puts people right next to you, your job is to serve them.

00:25:43.900 Period.

00:25:45.560 And that's the way you measure success and happiness.

00:25:51.280 How is my spouse doing?

00:25:52.380 How are my children doing?

00:25:53.340 If you don't have a spouse or children, you know, bless you.

00:25:56.900 But there are still people around you.

00:25:58.700 You still have obligations.

00:26:02.220 And you have, you know, the potential for great joy.

00:26:05.620 It's not just an obligation.

00:26:06.760 It's like that's what life is.

00:26:08.380 It's your relationships with people right next to you.

00:26:11.960 And if all of them are doing pretty well, you're doing pretty well.

00:26:16.780 And just don't lose.

00:26:17.560 It doesn't mean what happens to your country doesn't matter.

00:26:19.340 The country that your ancestors built, that does matter.

00:26:21.980 It matters in a global sense.

00:26:23.580 This is the final beacon of light to the world.

00:26:26.360 That's a fact. 0.78

00:26:28.220 It's not just some dumb cable news talking point. 0.92

00:26:30.820 That's a fact. 0.84

00:26:31.760 Okay, so that does matter.

00:26:32.880 History matters.

00:26:33.700 Your role in history matters.

00:26:34.760 All of that matters.

00:26:35.760 But the first thing that matters is how the people around you are doing.

00:26:40.580 So just don't forget that.

00:26:41.580 They want to make you forget that.

00:26:44.580 So I'm getting so spun up.

00:26:45.560 I'm getting peria.

00:26:46.300 I'm putting a little emergency peria here.

00:26:47.600 And that's why they spend so very much time trying to divide you from the people closest

00:26:54.300 to you.

00:26:55.020 That's why they're always encouraging you to insult your grandparents at Thanksgiving 1.00

00:26:58.060 over one of their stupid policies. 1.00

00:27:00.680 Literally. 1.00

00:27:01.400 How to have the conversation with Grandpa, the racist anti-COVID vax guy.

00:27:05.380 You're trying to break apart my family. 1.00

00:27:09.840 You're a monster and a criminal. 1.00

00:27:11.620 We should say that. 1.00

00:27:12.840 Anyone who tries to break apart other people's families is a monster and a criminal. 0.99

00:27:17.300 Period. 0.99

00:27:17.600 Period.

00:27:19.760 That's the worst offense you could commit.

00:27:23.400 There's no worse crime than that, actually.

00:27:27.120 And they do it out in the open.

00:27:29.080 The media does it.

00:27:29.780 I'm not even going to talk about the media. 0.93

00:27:31.140 They're clearly servants of evil. 0.64

00:27:32.520 Obviously. 0.52

00:27:34.560 But we know that.

00:27:35.540 It's not even worth, you know, like, whatever.

00:27:37.080 Got it.

00:27:39.180 Well, I know that.

00:27:39.800 I've been 33 years in the media, so I can promise you that's true.

00:27:42.760 But don't let them divide you from the people you love, which is another way of saying,

00:27:48.500 don't let them divert your attention from the things that really matter, which are the

00:27:51.920 people directly in front of you.

00:27:53.240 And the second thing that you should remember, they're going to try and goad you into violence.

00:27:59.440 Now, you could certainly make the case that in some cases it's justified.

00:28:02.380 I've said this in public, and I mean it. 0.94

00:28:04.240 When I was growing up, if someone got creepy, like, sexual with your kid, you got to punch 0.97

00:28:08.160 them out. 0.98

00:28:08.980 Period.

00:28:09.880 Like, that just wasn't allowed.

00:28:12.760 And so I don't understand why every school in the country has these therapists and nurses 0.88

00:28:16.980 who are having creepy sex talks with your kids.

00:28:19.960 Like, why don't people, we're the dads, actually. 0.98

00:28:22.940 Shut the school down over that.

00:28:24.860 Shut the school down. 1.00

00:28:25.640 You're not allowed to have creepy sex talks with my kids. 1.00

00:28:27.940 Period. 0.97

00:28:28.820 Under any circumstances.

00:28:30.860 And I don't care if you're some, like, heavyset nurse who's like, oh, I'm just doing it. 1.00

00:28:35.800 I don't care. 1.00

00:28:36.480 You're a creep. 0.99

00:28:37.400 Get out of here right now. 0.99

00:28:40.120 That's just a fact.

00:28:41.100 I don't care how they describe themselves or tell you what they think they're doing

00:28:45.600 or whatever lie they make up to justify what's actually happening, which is creepy sex talk 0.93

00:28:50.300 with your kids. 0.99

00:28:51.160 If it was a stranger in the park, you'd punch them out.

00:28:55.000 So I'm just noting that I'm not advocating violence. 0.96

00:28:57.380 I guess what I'm saying is it's very obvious to me that they are violence worshipers.

00:29:02.140 They've spent the last 20 years paying very close attention to every federal agency with

00:29:06.260 guns.

00:29:07.060 They're all about violence.

00:29:08.020 They love pointless wars.

00:29:09.320 They love killing people for no reason in other countries just for the sake of it because

00:29:12.580 it makes them feel powerful.

00:29:13.860 Hillary Clinton laughs as she talks about the murder of somebody.

00:29:16.960 Really?

00:29:18.020 A human being.

00:29:19.000 I don't care who's dying.

00:29:20.620 No normal human being feels glee at the death of another human being.

00:29:24.740 I don't care if he deserved it or not. 0.80

00:29:26.160 That's sick. 0.92

00:29:27.380 And your soul is rotted if you feel that way.

00:29:29.860 Don't let your soul rot.

00:29:31.380 But that's how they are.

00:29:32.500 They worship violence and blood. 0.79

00:29:33.920 That's why they love abortion. 1.00

00:29:34.780 So, and euthanasia.

00:29:35.780 Don't become that.

00:29:38.420 So, if we get to a point in this country where things are really moving, you know, in the

00:29:42.700 wrong direction in a threatening way, you still should not commit violence.

00:29:46.300 You don't have to hurt anybody.

00:29:48.040 Here's what you have to do.

00:29:49.480 You have to be willing to be hurt.

00:29:50.780 That's the truth.

00:29:52.040 You do.

00:29:52.920 You have to be willing to stand up and say, I'm not going to put, I'm not going to hurt

00:29:56.320 anybody, but I will put it all on the line.

00:29:58.360 And that actually changes things.

00:29:59.700 I can think there's one sort of famous leader in first century Palestine who did that.

00:30:06.580 And there have been, you know, subsequent leaders who followed his example.

00:30:10.220 If you want things to change, you have to make sacrifices.

00:30:13.660 And those do not have to include hurting other people physically.

00:30:16.260 I'm sorry, they don't.

00:30:17.480 But they do include being willing to be inconvenienced or punished.

00:30:22.040 And the question at that point arises, well, how serious are you about it?

00:30:25.800 Does it really matter to you?

00:30:27.060 If you actually felt your family was threatened, what wouldn't you give up in order to protect

00:30:31.420 them?

00:30:32.240 Would you give up your safety and your convenience?

00:30:34.380 I think you would.

00:30:35.580 So, just be prepared to do that.

00:30:37.340 And the last thing I will say before turning it over to my friend Dan Bongino is that you

00:30:42.280 have to keep your sense of humor.

00:30:44.580 It's so important.

00:30:45.820 It's a balm for the soul to laugh.

00:30:47.960 And I have a terrible tendency to go right to sort of bitter, nasty mockery.

00:30:55.160 I'm not recommending that.

00:30:56.620 That's a reflection of my own diseased soul that I can't just make normal jokes.

00:31:00.380 I have to make fun of Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:31:02.020 Of all the things she's done, the fact that she was Montel Williams in the side piece is

00:31:06.080 the first thing I go to because it's like hilarious.

00:31:09.880 I don't think that's a virtuous thing to do.

00:31:12.160 I'm a little ashamed that I do it.

00:31:13.380 So is my wife, as she's pointed out many times.

00:31:15.360 But the capacity to laugh at what you're seeing around you and especially laugh at yourself 0.99

00:31:23.000 to note how inherently ridiculous you are, so important. 0.62

00:31:28.000 And I worked in a business my whole life of people who are really smart and talented and 0.98

00:31:32.160 high achievers of television.

00:31:34.120 But the one thing they didn't have was the capacity to laugh at themselves because they

00:31:37.720 could not admit how inherently absurd they were.

00:31:40.020 And I always wanted to mandate as a rule all the TV networks I worked at where every male 0.99

00:31:44.760 anchor would have to have mounted a full-length mirror outside his shower.

00:31:49.560 And I just felt like that would solve the problem immediately because, and I'm including myself

00:31:54.500 in this, like there's no way as a man that you can all of a sudden catch sight of yourself

00:31:58.940 naked, lumpy, furry, this kind of lopsided primate and take yourself that seriously. 0.59

00:32:05.520 Like you kind of know you're not God. 0.95

00:32:08.620 I don't know, I don't have a ton of mirrors in my house, but occasionally I'll be on the

00:32:11.640 road in a hotel and be like, what the hell is that?

00:32:15.300 Oh, that's me.

00:32:16.640 Well, I'm absurd, aren't I?

00:32:19.220 I can't believe my wife, bless my wife, never mentioning that to me.

00:32:23.740 Women are so great. 1.00

00:32:24.820 They're the best.

00:32:25.360 But it's so, and it, you know, obviously there's horror and an attempt to spray the

00:32:31.680 mirror with shaving cream to make the images stop.

00:32:33.940 But after I calm down, I'm like, I'm so glad I saw that because I've been restored to reality.

00:32:39.680 I put myself in perspective in the world.

00:32:42.760 You know, one of the saddest things about modern society is the light that our cities

00:32:46.400 emit at night prevent us from seeing the stars.

00:32:48.880 And when you can't see the stars, it's not just because I'm interested in astronomy, which

00:32:52.840 I'm not, I am interested in perspective very much.

00:32:56.860 And we live in a rural area.

00:32:57.880 When I look up at night, the first thing I think is, boy, am I insignificant.

00:33:01.180 I actually don't think I'm the center of the universe.

00:33:03.060 It slowly dawns on me.

00:33:05.020 Like, I don't think I'm the most important thing.

00:33:06.820 And it's good to know that because I'm not, actually.

00:33:09.480 And humor is a really great shortcut to that understanding.

00:33:13.160 If you can laugh at yourself, if you can laugh at the situations around you, you have

00:33:18.360 instantly put it into perspective.

00:33:20.260 And the important perspective is, this is just a blip on a timeline that goes on for

00:33:25.100 who knows how long.

00:33:25.980 It does end, by the way.

00:33:27.260 I just don't know when.

00:33:29.140 But that kind of lets everybody know you feel that.

00:33:33.400 But the most important thing about humor is there's nothing that your opponents hate

00:33:38.160 more than being laughed at because they think they're God. 0.85

00:33:41.380 And when you laugh at them, it is like hitting the wicked witch of the West with a garden 0.98

00:33:48.380 hose. 0.99

00:33:49.060 They just melt into this cackling pile of witch clothes. 0.98

00:33:54.320 They can't stand it.

00:33:55.840 And if you make fun of them, you disempower them because you tell the truth about them.

00:34:04.360 And the truth is, they're absurd. 1.00

00:34:07.180 They may be evil, but they're also stupid. 1.00

00:34:10.100 And we need to say that out loud. 1.00

00:34:12.100 And in fact, it's the saving grace.

00:34:13.680 If they were evil and smart, we'd be in serious trouble.

00:34:16.600 But no, they're Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:34:18.320 They may have dark intentions, but she's still dumb. 1.00

00:34:20.720 And I just thank God for that every day. 0.97

00:34:25.260 So with that, I want to introduce Dan Bongino, who, from my experience spending the day in

00:34:35.080 Tulsa, I've learned everybody knows Dan Bongino.

00:34:38.860 Everyone's wearing his awesome t-shirts.

00:34:40.600 Everyone seems to love him.

00:34:41.620 So I just want to add very quickly my perspective on Dan Bongino, whom I worked with.

00:34:45.880 I knew Dan Bongino.

00:34:46.580 I actually had Dan Bongino on when he was running for office, when he just left the Secret Service.

00:34:50.720 And then I became his co-worker.

00:34:52.640 And then I became his friend, which I am now.

00:34:56.120 I would say two things about Dan Bongino.

00:34:58.120 Dan Bongino is one of the smartest people I've ever met, actually.

00:35:00.780 Dan Bongino has the ability to boil down what's happening, incredibly complex things, into

00:35:08.320 the perfect distillation.

00:35:11.360 He can tell you exactly what's happening in one phrase, and he does it in a Queens accent,

00:35:16.260 Queens New York accent, which is just absolutely the greatest.

00:35:19.180 And the second thing I'll tell you about Dan Bongino, you probably already suspect, is

00:35:23.840 he's one of the toughest human beings in the world, for real.

00:35:26.640 Not just because he can do 50 one-arm push-ups, which he can.

00:35:30.300 Ask him what his pull-up record is.

00:35:31.940 I haven't even bothered.

00:35:32.880 It's a lot.

00:35:33.940 No, I mean in a much more significant way.

00:35:36.180 He's tough inside.

00:35:37.480 And you know that the measure for most men is how you deal with your employer.

00:35:43.480 Because it's one thing to like, you know, be the tough guy in the bar, at your own dinner

00:35:46.940 table.

00:35:47.480 You know, dad's pretty tough.

00:35:48.620 One thing about dad is he's pretty tough.

00:35:50.480 Okay, yeah.

00:35:51.160 Okay, dad.

00:35:51.680 Slow down.

00:35:53.320 But what's your attitude at work?

00:35:56.140 If your employer's like, you know, I want you to do something that violates your conscience.

00:35:59.460 And no one's around.

00:36:00.880 There's no one around.

00:36:02.260 Your wife doesn't know. 0.67

00:36:03.160 You're not humiliated in front of your loved ones.

00:36:05.140 It's just like, go ahead and do this thing and like, everything will be cool.

00:36:09.320 You know, what's your answer?

00:36:10.980 You know, just sort of violate your own moral code.

00:36:13.940 No one will know.

00:36:15.240 And I just happen to know for a fact that Dan Bongino's response was like, what?

00:36:19.040 Get bent.

00:36:19.620 No.

00:36:20.220 No.

00:36:21.060 Next.

00:36:23.020 And so Dan Bongino's definitely the kind of guy who would have a lot of trouble holding

00:36:26.160 a job in the media business.

00:36:27.640 In fact, it would be impossible.

00:36:29.360 And so Dan Bongino has made his own media business, which has been wildly successful.

00:36:33.920 And I'm proud to be his friend on the base of that and many other qualities.

00:36:37.440 Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Bongino.

00:36:53.160 Oh, man.

00:36:53.880 I'm glad you're here.

00:36:55.000 What a crowd.

00:36:56.040 Good to be here with you, bro.

00:36:57.020 And I'm glad you're here.

00:36:58.120 I think you took work off to be here, which I'm really grateful for.

00:37:02.620 But I've waited all day.

00:37:03.740 I think you're the first person I've asked this.

00:37:05.600 What did you make of that debate last night?

00:37:08.620 Well, here's what I, I usually have to, you know, the Bongino rule.

00:37:16.820 Yeah.

00:37:16.960 Who listens to my show?

00:37:18.400 I don't know.

00:37:19.900 Okay.

00:37:20.920 So we've got a few.

00:37:22.740 So there's two or three.

00:37:24.320 There's two.

00:37:24.540 My statistics course and my math skills are terrible.

00:37:27.600 But what do I always tell you with the Bongino rule?

00:37:30.160 I say, give it about 24 hours to let a story brew.

00:37:33.500 So I generally like Tucker.

00:37:35.740 We'll go and listen to what most of the jerkwads in the mainstream media have to say. 1.00

00:37:41.500 And then I naturally assume the opposite is true.

00:37:44.580 Fair.

00:37:44.800 So when I heard this morning, after watching the debate and doing the live show, any of you guys tune in to our live stream?

00:37:52.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

00:37:53.140 We kicked some ass. 0.99

00:37:54.720 Did you see that? 0.99

00:37:55.580 We were like number five in the world.

00:37:57.280 We beat all these billion dollar media companies in my attic.

00:38:01.360 In a studio, it's like falling apart.

00:38:04.140 Siri with like wires hanging out of the ceiling.

00:38:07.260 We did that.

00:38:08.420 Well, you all did it for us.

00:38:10.040 So we appreciate it.

00:38:11.080 So I get up in the morning and having run for office and having been on TV and in radio, I realized, you know, when you run and you got skin in the game, that everything you know about politics is probably wrong.

00:38:25.960 From the candidate side.

00:38:27.640 It's only two things.

00:38:29.500 Anyone know what it is?

00:38:32.920 Man.

00:38:34.100 You got my homies here.

00:38:35.140 My man.

00:38:36.160 Brother.

00:38:36.880 I love this guy.

00:38:37.720 I'm going to come back.

00:38:38.440 If my knee wasn't bad, jump off the stage and hug you.

00:38:41.220 It's two things if you listen to my show. 1.00

00:38:43.280 And if anyone tells you it's anything different than these two things, promptly dismiss them as ignorant morons. 1.00

00:38:50.080 Politics are snapshots and soundbites. 1.00

00:38:53.340 That's it.

00:38:54.940 Guys like me and Tucker and all of you politically active patriots, you guys don't need to be convinced.

00:39:02.440 You guys don't need a white paper to understand that high marginal tax rates suck and all that.

00:39:08.720 You don't need that, okay?

00:39:10.260 The Americans out there who are busy, and I don't hold anything against them, who are busy and working and at soccer games, right?

00:39:18.160 They see a picture, and they see a soundbite, and they hear a soundbite.

00:39:22.840 That's it.

00:39:23.180 So when I woke up this morning, I noticed that, do the snapshots and soundbites lens, I'm looking at the snapshots of Kamala Harris.

00:39:33.300 And I'm like, someone going to show me the good one?

00:39:35.180 She's like, no, I'm saying, what the hell was it?

00:39:41.200 The thinker pose?

00:39:42.520 Like from the famous statue?

00:39:43.980 Kamala, who's never been known as a thinker, she's like, the school bus. 0.99

00:39:47.000 The greatest clip ever, Trump with Tucker.

00:39:49.640 And then they get on the school bus.

00:39:51.500 So I'm like, okay, where's the snapshot?

00:39:54.720 Everyone has a snapshot.

00:39:56.020 Remember even George W. Bush, he was debating Gore, and Gore came over.

00:40:00.860 Remember he gave him a look, and that was the snapshot, right?

00:40:03.520 Where was the snapshot?

00:40:04.960 So the media's telling me it was this big, resounding victory.

00:40:08.860 President Kamala Harris, ladies and gentlemen, everyone go home.

00:40:12.420 And I'm like, okay, there are no snapshots, so I'm going to have to clean this up for my audience.

00:40:16.740 Some of them may believe this BS.

00:40:19.600 And I said, well, clearly there'll be a soundbite.

00:40:22.580 I won't take advantage of my opponent's youth and inexperience.

00:40:27.660 The 1980s called for their foreign policy back.

00:40:30.380 There's going to be one of those, right?

00:40:33.000 And I noticed something.

00:40:35.120 There wasn't.

00:40:36.840 It's like magic.

00:40:38.200 And you know why?

00:40:39.800 Because the left-wing media goons have a problem right now. 0.84

00:40:43.140 And the problem's Elon Musk.

00:40:44.640 They did not want to, I'm serious, and it's a real problem.

00:40:50.900 They did not want to spread the BS soundbites around because they were all fake.

00:40:58.420 None of them were real. 0.88

00:40:59.400 They were all inauthentic nonsense.

00:41:01.720 You know, the fine people thing, we've heard it. 0.89

00:41:04.160 The bloodbath, we've heard that too.

00:41:06.200 There's no soundbite either.

00:41:08.080 So, sorry, I promise I'll keep my other answers tighter.

00:41:10.780 But long-winded answer to a very simple question.

00:41:13.160 That debate was, at best, a push.

00:41:17.000 And if it's a push and Trump is ahead, which I believe he is,

00:41:21.600 then I take it as a W for us.

00:41:24.100 So don't believe the hype.

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00:43:16.780 Sorry.

00:43:17.520 No, no.

00:43:18.140 That wasn't long-winded at all.

00:43:19.440 I think that's really smart.

00:43:20.500 And I think you're absolutely right.

00:43:21.840 I kept thinking, you know, you're frustrated.

00:43:24.660 It's just like anything.

00:43:25.640 It's like watching your kids play sports.

00:43:27.180 It's like, God, you know, don't you see?

00:43:28.940 You know, whatever.

00:43:30.160 But, and the closer you are and the more emotionally invested you are, you know, the more emotional

00:43:35.520 you are about it.

00:43:36.140 But I didn't see any moment in that where someone's like, I'm really not sure who to vote for.

00:43:43.060 Oh, I'm voting Kamala Harris.

00:43:45.960 Yeah.

00:43:46.200 I think when you run for office and you see this too, you start to figure out too that

00:43:51.540 political narratives that the mainstream media tell you are damaging are typically not.

00:43:56.920 The only damaging political narrative or what would have hurt Trump last night, because

00:44:01.140 I believe he's ahead.

00:44:02.800 Now, is there going to be some cheating and scamming?

00:44:05.760 Yeah.

00:44:06.040 In a fair election, I believe he's ahead.

00:44:08.140 So if he's ahead, all he had to do was push last night.

00:44:10.760 But we were told he lost.

00:44:12.280 I went on my show today and said he didn't.

00:44:14.240 And so if he lost, there had to be a damaging and destructive political narrative.

00:44:19.000 The only damaging and destructive political narratives are ones that do this one thing.

00:44:24.620 They change your preexisting notion of who a candidate is.

00:44:28.860 Right?

00:44:29.740 I'll give you a quick example, right?

00:44:31.320 That's smart.

00:44:32.100 That's right.

00:44:32.540 You hear a story about Ted Cruz in a strip club.

00:44:36.420 It hurts.

00:44:37.560 That's going to ding him up.

00:44:39.020 That's not his reputation.

00:44:40.960 Everybody believes him to be a far different guy, which he is.

00:44:44.240 That's a damaging story.

00:44:46.540 Yet you hear that story, say like some country singer who's a real party or something, runs

00:44:54.760 for office.

00:44:55.440 And you hear he was in a strip club last week.

00:44:57.860 Is it going to ruin?

00:44:58.580 It's not going to do anything.

00:45:00.300 That's why all those stories about Donald Trump, people had already seen him on the Howard

00:45:04.520 Stern show talking about being a young single guy in New York.

00:45:08.320 Like none of it hurt.

00:45:09.280 So I ask you, if Trump got hurt last night, what changed your mind?

00:45:15.880 Good luck.

00:45:16.900 That's why everybody's quiet.

00:45:18.280 Because you know I'm right.

00:45:19.880 But what changed your mind about Kamala Harris?

00:45:23.020 Well, 28% of voters say they don't know who Kamala Harris is.

00:45:27.100 Well, who is she after last night? 0.94

00:45:29.060 Yeah, you in the front row.

00:45:30.140 Well, who is she? 0.99

00:45:31.240 Oh, she... 1.00

00:45:32.360 I don't know.

00:45:32.800 She's the thinker lady. 0.99

00:45:33.740 What did she tell you last night to change your mind?

00:45:37.440 Nothing.

00:45:38.700 Nothing.

00:45:39.720 So how did we lose?

00:45:41.280 I agree with your point.

00:45:42.540 I think there were a couple moments.

00:45:44.480 And I think you and I, I mean, you're like, you are the master debater.

00:45:51.700 You have to say those words.

00:45:53.320 If you listen to my show, you know, don't say them fast.

00:45:55.300 I've been called worse.

00:45:56.400 You are the man.

00:45:58.920 You have to say, if you, but you did this for a living on TV in front of 4 million people

00:46:04.960 a night.

00:46:06.360 You're, it's our instinct to go, gosh, you had it.

00:46:08.860 Like, go for it.

00:46:09.880 And I get it 100%.

00:46:11.820 There were a couple answers that probably could have been tighter.

00:46:14.560 But I've, I feel pretty good.

00:46:17.680 I'm not cocky about it.

00:46:19.220 I don't want to hear any talk about a red wave. 0.99

00:46:21.400 You're going to get kicked in the nuts again if you keep talking about that.

00:46:24.260 But I feel, sorry, I put a cup on, but I, I just like, I feel pretty good. 0.97

00:46:31.460 Last night was at best a push.

00:46:34.200 It's interesting that you said, um, that the, the Twitter, that X, that Elon Musk is a pivotal

00:46:42.280 figure in this election.

00:46:44.180 Can you flesh it out a little bit?

00:46:45.960 So I'm reading this article in the, you know, the Washington Post, the, the, the democracy

00:46:50.500 dies in the dark.

00:46:54.260 It's a, it's always the opposite, of course, as noted of what they're saying.

00:46:59.160 Do you believe the Washington Post?

00:46:59.960 But they are literally an iron curtain over information.

00:47:02.960 The point of the Washington Post is to hide reality from you, is to tell you that your

00:47:06.720 eyes are lying to you.

00:47:08.120 Isn't it hilarious? 0.99

00:47:08.900 Like they had the balls to put that on like their masthead, like democracy dies at the 0.99

00:47:13.820 Washington Post. 0.99

00:47:14.860 Like, that's hilarious.

00:47:15.620 Anyways, I'm reading this piece the other day and the headline is, you know, it's the

00:47:20.260 thousand piece with the same title, Elon Musk's misinformation about the elections, a threat

00:47:25.360 to democracy from the people who voted the Russia hoax, the Hunter Biden's laptop with

00:47:31.480 Russian disinformation hoax.

00:47:33.320 It was kind of hilarious.

00:47:34.100 And I thought, and I know, Tucker, you and I actually discussed this on my show when you

00:47:41.140 were kind enough to come out at the RNC.

00:47:42.800 I thought to myself, like, folks, you know, the demons are real, man.

00:47:49.200 Evil's a very real thing.

00:47:51.620 Evil's a very real thing.

00:47:52.840 I was talking to this gentleman who runs a pro-life advocacy group, this guy Dan, who

00:47:57.840 advertises on our show too.

00:48:01.200 And we're talking about a group of people right now who talk about the craziest things 0.69

00:48:06.260 like castrating kids in schools, showing them porn.

00:48:09.260 And I, you know, what you said before, I've heard you say many times, you're right. 0.55

00:48:13.300 Like, this is the kind of stuff 30 years ago, you'd be beaten up by the parents or arrested

00:48:17.320 for doing, and everybody would celebrate you.

00:48:20.940 And the thing about Elon that has them so threatened is Elon has provided a platform for the first

00:48:27.300 time, and Elon's not, he's a self-admitted not conservative.

00:48:30.540 He's just not a liberal either.

00:48:32.560 That has them genuinely threatened because the liberals built this thing.

00:48:36.940 They built essentially this new global, almost like cosmic town square with Starlink, right?

00:48:44.320 They built this cosmic town square, which they thought mistakenly was going to create a monopoly

00:48:51.460 over ideas for the next generation of kids.

00:48:55.240 And what happened?

00:48:56.780 This Tony Stark-like billionaire comes in and buys the platform and says, listen, I'm not

00:49:03.900 really a conservative, but those are crazy.

00:49:07.660 And I'm going to let you conservatives talk, and the entire world melted down.

00:49:13.360 I mean, there is nothing that frightens the liberal, right?

00:49:16.220 Am I crazy?

00:49:18.980 What is the liberal's biggest fear?

00:49:23.200 The modern liberal's biggest fear is the community don't.

00:49:27.060 There is nothing the liberal hates more than being embarrassed because they're not used

00:49:32.780 to it.

00:49:33.320 Listen, you worked at CNN with Crossfire and all these people.

00:49:36.120 You know how they are.

00:49:37.420 They are so used to being at these bourgeois cocktail parties. 1.00

00:49:42.440 They're so used to having the foie gras fed to them and people kissing their ass. 0.99

00:49:46.960 Remember the old adage was, don't mess with people who buy ink by the barrel. 0.99

00:49:51.060 No one met.

00:49:51.560 People mess with the cops before they mess with the media.

00:49:54.020 And now, nobody respects them. 1.00

00:49:56.840 People are like, eh, well, community note, you dumbass. 1.00

00:49:59.880 And they look stupid, and they don't know how to respond. 1.00

00:50:02.900 Elon has changed everything. 1.00

00:50:05.320 The whole game has changed, and they don't know what to do.

00:50:10.500 So, I would say, I would put a little finer point on it and say, I've been around rich liberals

00:50:17.860 every single day of my life until four years ago when I just decided I'm never going to

00:50:21.580 be around them again.

00:50:22.080 I did my time.

00:50:24.020 But I spent 51 years around rich liberals.

00:50:25.900 And I think the secret that they're hiding, they don't hide the weirdness of their sex 0.79

00:50:30.720 lives or the chaos of their personal lives.

00:50:32.880 That's all known.

00:50:33.840 The one thing they don't want you to know is that they're mediocre.

00:50:38.120 That they don't have any skills, actually.

00:50:40.320 They can't really do anything.

00:50:41.500 And so, they built this entire universe of non-profits and colleges and government bureaucracies, all

00:50:52.280 designed to give them employment, wealth, and status, when, in fact, they don't deserve 0.99

00:50:58.380 any of it because they're totally useless people, actually. 0.99

00:51:01.200 They can't do anything. 0.99

00:51:02.080 They're not impressive. 1.00

00:51:02.900 They're dumb. 1.00

00:51:03.600 And I know that because I know them. 1.00

00:51:05.880 I'm not guessing about this.

00:51:07.260 And I think social media have allowed us to see who they really are.

00:51:10.620 So, like, you know, Hillary Clinton is, like, not an impressive...

00:51:14.220 You know, I mean, she's evil or whatever, and she's worshiping Baal in her spare time 1.00

00:51:17.320 and all that.

00:51:17.680 True.

00:51:18.900 But really, she's, like, not very smart.

00:51:20.480 She's never had an original thought. 0.94

00:51:22.180 She's totally banal. 1.00

00:51:23.380 If you asked her, like, her deepest thought, it would be, like, today is the first day of

00:51:26.920 the rest of my life.

00:51:28.860 Like, she's got a kind of bumper sticker IQ. 1.00

00:51:31.120 She's an idiot, actually. 1.00

00:51:32.240 They all are idiots. 1.00

00:51:34.000 And social media allows everyone to know that, and so they just can't wait to put people 1.00

00:51:39.120 like you in prison, so you'll stop pointing it out.

00:51:41.760 You know, that's just brilliant.

00:51:45.280 Do you ever...

00:51:46.280 You ever know Fred Siegel?

00:51:47.820 You know, he passed, but he was my editor, actually, for years.

00:51:51.440 Wonderful man.

00:51:52.080 Man, he has an amazing book I can't recommend enough.

00:51:55.240 It's called Revolt Against the Masses, and it's a history of what Tucker just said.

00:52:00.700 You pointed that out just beautifully, and you segued nicely from social media, but the

00:52:06.120 gist of the book is very simple, that what Tucker said is accurate.

00:52:11.140 These people hate everything meritocratic or anything involved in a meritocracy precisely

00:52:17.140 because they have no merit.

00:52:19.200 They are completely mediocre people who yearn for this new aristocracy of ideas where because

00:52:26.600 they said something and they've got an NGO label next to them, that you're supposed to 0.87

00:52:31.900 default to it's true.

00:52:34.020 And under the even mildest of scrutiny from a former cop who grew up in Queens, who asked

00:52:40.740 a simple question like, there's a pee-pee tape out there?

00:52:45.360 It's kind of weird no one's seen it, right?

00:52:48.420 Like, Donald Trump drinks Diet Coke for breakfast, and it was a major story in the Washington Post.

00:52:53.760 It was like, there's a pee-pee tape out there?

00:52:56.480 And they're like, how dare you ask that question?

00:52:59.660 I'm part of the ideological aristocracy.

00:53:03.160 Weren't you a cop and an agent?

00:53:05.880 Yeah, I worked for a living.

00:53:07.260 I had a real job.

00:53:08.200 I have kids.

00:53:08.980 I'm sorry you didn't. 1.00

00:53:10.340 But, I mean, you having worked with these idiots, that's a brilliant point. 1.00

00:53:13.920 That in social media, you're exposed to their imbecility every single day, and they hate 1.00

00:53:20.020 it, and Elon won't give the buffer mechanism of deleting your account, and he allows you 0.82

00:53:26.980 to go back and forth with them, you know?

00:53:28.840 But it's, I didn't used to think this.

00:53:32.140 I always thought because I worked in the media and people would always say they hated the

00:53:35.740 media, and I'd be like, all right, but it's not that big a deal that the media is rotten.

00:53:40.740 And I completely changed my view, but it's actually, it's people speaking is the thing

00:53:47.780 that upsets them most.

00:53:49.900 You can unleash physical hell on a city.

00:53:52.840 You can destroy our largest city, New York City, through unrestrained immigration, and 1.00

00:53:56.760 people are literally defecating on the sidewalk and getting raped on the subway, and it's like 0.98

00:54:00.640 not a big deal to them. 1.00

00:54:02.000 But if you say something out loud that exposes their lies, they actually want to kill you.

00:54:08.460 That is the one thing they can't stand.

00:54:09.700 So my question to you as someone who just left the media and built his own media, God

00:54:16.860 bless you for that once again, how long can they tolerate you, honestly?

00:54:21.960 Because what you do is not just inconvenient to them, it's like the thing they hate most,

00:54:26.180 like they stay up late thinking about you.

00:54:28.480 Yeah.

00:54:28.800 I wrote a whole chapter in this last book about basically giving a middle finger to

00:54:35.960 these, it's not just leftists, by the way, it's swampy Republicans too.

00:54:40.180 I hope you all understand that.

00:54:42.360 Don't think for, yeah.

00:54:44.220 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:44.540 I mean, listen, you know, you expect stupidity from the liberals, but what Tucker's getting 1.00

00:54:49.000 out with is, they don't want you to speak. 1.00

00:54:51.580 He's 100% spot on, and it's the swampy right too.

00:54:55.760 And, you know, how long will they let me speak?

00:54:58.160 I say all the time, like the most dangerous guy in my life, you know, probably cliched,

00:55:01.940 but whatever, but it's true.

00:55:04.080 Cliches always have an element of truth to them, but they wouldn't be cliches, right?

00:55:07.160 The most dangerous person in the world is someone with actually nothing to lose.

00:55:11.720 And, you know, I had this weird moment.

00:55:13.440 I want to be macabre, and I'm not going to be like Danny Downer, but, you know, when you

00:55:16.960 get something like cancer and they're like, hey, man, you could like die and stuff, and

00:55:20.480 that's not cool.

00:55:21.460 And, you know, who's got, where's my don't get dead guy here?

00:55:24.080 And I, what is your, like, that's, there you go.

00:55:25.820 Don't get dead, brother.

00:55:26.940 What's the number one rule of the Dan Bongino show?

00:55:29.640 Don't get dead.

00:55:30.920 So when some, right, and liberals do things that help you get dead, but so does cancer.

00:55:35.560 Cancer will help you get dead quick.

00:55:37.040 So don't get it. 1.00

00:55:37.820 It sucks. 0.53

00:55:38.240 So when you survive something like that, and you realize, gosh, man, you know, like, 0.59

00:55:43.720 I know I have an expiration date, but I was hoping it wasn't like next week or anything

00:55:47.840 like that, right?

00:55:48.860 It changes everything.

00:55:50.420 And they tried to stop me.

00:55:52.280 I got involved early with Parler because I knew Twitter under Jack was a train wreck.

00:55:58.160 And it took $3 trillion companies to take me down.

00:56:02.440 You know, we were the number one app in the world, not in news, not in the world.

00:56:07.060 We built that thing from 200,000 users to 20 million in the year I was involved.

00:56:16.760 And it took Apple, Google, and Amazon to take me down.

00:56:21.120 And I got to tell you something.

00:56:22.640 I looked at my wife when it happened.

00:56:25.380 It cost me a lot of money.

00:56:27.020 And I put a lot of sweat equity into that.

00:56:29.160 And I was, well, they tried.

00:56:34.280 And I was very upset.

00:56:36.080 I mean, we, my wife and I cried a lot about it because we really, you know, we, thank you.

00:56:41.780 And I said, what do you do next?

00:56:43.680 So after spending a couple of days thinking about like, how do I stick it to them?

00:56:48.600 And this is the chapter where I wrote it.

00:56:50.040 And I wound up having a conversation with this guy, Chris, and he had this company called Rumble.

00:56:56.860 It was largely just like a lot of pet videos.

00:57:00.140 And Chris asked me, he said, you think you can do with Rumble what you did with Parler?

00:57:06.380 I said, you're damn right I can.

00:57:08.620 I said, give me one more shot to stick it to these people. 0.95

00:57:11.360 And I'll tell you something.

00:57:13.060 Last night, I saw some statistic.

00:57:15.500 I think it was on Live Search app.

00:57:17.480 That 13% of the digital video traffic last night in the United States was Rumble. 0.99

00:57:23.600 And I thought to myself, holy shit. 0.98

00:57:26.760 You believe that? 0.99

00:57:28.820 We were doing pet videos, you know, five years ago.

00:57:32.300 And thanks to his, so you can't let them win, Tucker, ever.

00:57:37.080 And, you know, they took us down.

00:57:38.800 And then they said, well, what if they come get you on the servers?

00:57:41.780 So we were like, okay, let's build our own server farm.

00:57:44.960 And then someone said to me, and that's what we did at Rumble.

00:57:47.700 Now we have Rumble Cloud.

00:57:49.180 And then someone said to me, Dan, they're going to cancel you processing.

00:57:52.660 Like Stripe's going to come after you.

00:57:54.360 I said, how hard is it to start a processing company?

00:57:57.500 They were like, it's hard.

00:57:58.680 I said, let's start one.

00:58:00.300 And it's great.

00:58:01.480 We have parallel economy.

00:58:03.160 And then they said, the book publisher.

00:58:05.860 They're definitely not going to publish any of your books.

00:58:08.100 So I looked at my wife and I said, she's backstage. 0.99

00:58:10.320 I'm like, how hard is it you think to publish books?

00:58:13.340 Very hard.

00:58:14.540 I'm like, I'd start a publishing company.

00:58:15.860 So I publish my own books now. 0.89

00:58:17.620 F these people.

00:58:18.560 Whatever they tell you you can't do, you go do it.

00:58:21.460 And then you start your own company.

00:58:25.280 And then you get your own advertisers.

00:58:28.040 That's how you do it.

00:58:29.620 You pull the Leo DiCaprio from Wolf of Wall Street.

00:58:33.080 Just don't defraud anyone.

00:58:34.460 I'm not leaving.

00:58:35.700 I'm not leaving.

00:58:37.280 I will haunt. 1.00

00:58:38.540 You tell these liberals, I will haunt you sons of bitches for the rest of your lives on this planet. 1.00

00:58:44.420 YouTube decided to cancel me. 1.00

00:58:49.880 YouTube sends me a letter, an email.

00:58:52.700 We're canceling you.

00:58:53.900 You said masks don't work.

00:58:55.600 They said, you got to pull this video down.

00:58:57.680 I said, I got a better idea. 1.00

00:58:59.220 We're just going to, I'm going to cancel you idiots. 1.00

00:59:01.600 And I'm going to go advocate for a platform. 1.00

00:59:04.640 And then Rumble went and sued them later for screwing them up. 0.98

00:59:08.040 I'm like, screw these people. 0.93

00:59:09.560 Don't ever let them beat you down. 1.00

00:59:11.320 Ever.

00:59:12.360 Ever.

00:59:13.520 Whatever they tell you not to do, you do times 10.

00:59:17.780 Look at my sister clapping.

00:59:19.180 My sister's here for Kelly.

00:59:20.740 Wave to everyone.

00:59:22.020 There she is.

00:59:25.200 And then my brother-in-law Chuck too.

00:59:27.880 I used to sleep on Kelly's floor in our house in Selden because we didn't have any air conditioning in the other room.

00:59:34.660 Remember that?

00:59:35.560 They'd be like, put a few blankets down.

00:59:36.900 It's a hard floor.

00:59:37.800 That was it.

00:59:38.800 It was awesome.

00:59:39.660 Good to see you.

00:59:40.200 What does the HR department at your company say when you talk like this?

00:59:44.560 Paula.

00:59:45.480 Paula is the HR department.

00:59:47.460 Paula, what does HR say when I talk like this?

00:59:49.820 Once in a while, I'll come down.

00:59:51.980 There were a couple of times I was doing Unfiltered, like this Fox show.

00:59:55.720 And, you know, some stuff with like, there was like some, always like a little squeeze sometimes.

01:00:00.240 And I'd come down and she'd be like, you did it again, didn't you?

01:00:04.660 I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I did.

01:00:06.480 One more time.

01:00:07.180 Do you think like in your heart of hearts, deep, deep inside when you were working for

01:00:24.560 the company you just mentioned that you, did you think to yourself, maybe I don't have

01:00:28.260 like a super long future in corporate media?

01:00:30.480 I, I, I knew it.

01:00:33.300 I knew it.

01:00:34.120 I knew it.

01:00:34.780 I just, listen, man, I can't work for anyone. 0.99

01:00:37.520 I'm too old for this crap. 0.91

01:00:38.560 You know, like I have a set of ideas and things I'm going to say. 0.98

01:00:41.760 And I really don't, I don't really give a damn about having some like moral or ethical

01:00:46.420 sensor over me.

01:00:47.560 You know, there's a lot of things on my show I wish I could change.

01:00:49.900 I met a lady on the photo line, super nice. 1.00

01:00:51.900 She was obviously here.

01:00:53.340 She was in the VIP thing.

01:00:55.460 And she's like, Dan, you know, I love your show, but you really have to like stop cursing.

01:01:00.160 I said, you know, I'm, I'm with you.

01:01:01.200 I, I, I know she's right.

01:01:02.600 Like, I love Jesus, man.

01:01:04.120 I love, I love Jesus.

01:01:06.380 Jesus doesn't like when people curse, but there's a part of me that really is hard to dig

01:01:11.600 out, you know, and it's this New York part of me.

01:01:14.320 And, and when I'm dropping like a massive F bomb, I believe me, I'm not proud of myself.

01:01:18.280 I got kids too.

01:01:19.260 I mean, my, you know, sometimes I think, gosh, like my, my 12 year olds probably watching

01:01:23.980 this going, dad, please don't, but I'm just a really passionate guy.

01:01:27.920 And did you talk like that growing up at the tennis club in Palm beach or no?

01:01:33.700 Listen, brother, I learned how to swim in a fire hydrant in a corner of 64th place in

01:01:39.080 Myrtle and be like this, you know?

01:01:40.780 So yeah, I don't even know where that is.

01:01:43.100 That's like, he does.

01:01:44.320 Kelly, Kelly does.

01:01:46.680 She used to come out and visit us. 1.00

01:01:48.380 My, our parents.

01:01:49.820 So Kelly's on my, she's my sister.

01:01:51.960 I've grown up in her forever, but we don't actually share any biological relationship.

01:01:55.480 My parents got divorced very young.

01:01:57.400 So she's always taking care of me.

01:01:59.260 So she would visit her dad in the city and then my dad would come and get us.

01:02:03.780 So in order to save the ride, my father would then pick her up at my house and drive

01:02:08.080 her back to Long Island after he dropped this off. 0.80

01:02:10.580 So yeah, man, he said, I mean, we, we grew up above a bar in a cock.

01:02:14.300 Cockroach infested apartment.

01:02:15.840 So I always get a kick out of it when some, you know, liberal, you know, bag tells me

01:02:21.880 like, you don't know what it's like to be one of us.

01:02:23.900 Really, bro?

01:02:24.700 Are you serious?

01:02:25.620 Like I was one of you before you were ever one of you.

01:02:28.440 Like you have no idea, you know, when, when, when was your, and then you, you know, you

01:02:35.340 worked famously for the federal government.

01:02:38.040 When did your views become what they are now?

01:02:41.200 So I was a cop in New York and I was never, ever a liberal ever, but I was definitely a

01:02:48.960 left leaning independent.

01:02:51.580 And I had a bumper sticker on my Ford Escort.

01:02:54.960 It's a question authority.

01:02:56.440 Like that was my thing.

01:02:57.140 I never trusted anyone.

01:02:58.760 It's the only thing that kept me from being a Democrat.

01:03:01.300 I was never a Democrat.

01:03:02.620 I've never voted for a Democrat, never registered Democrat.

01:03:05.600 But when I became a cop, I knew the conservative path was the only way you can only walk into

01:03:13.220 so many generational broken homes where the grandmother, the mother, and the kids are living 0.98

01:03:22.980 in the same rent controlled, you know, bug infested apartment and nobody has a job.

01:03:30.900 You can only walk into that home a hundred times before you say, man, if this is the government

01:03:38.880 helping, like, don't help me, please, whatever you, the old Reagan adage, right?

01:03:43.660 I'm from the government.

01:03:44.360 I'm here to, please stop helping.

01:03:46.760 Please, God, I'm not using his name in vain at all.

01:03:49.480 Stop helping people.

01:03:51.420 And, you know, I, that's when I started to really see the light.

01:03:55.500 And then since, you know, I, I'm always comfortable talking to you as a friend.

01:04:00.700 I mean, it was, you know, my mom, it was hard.

01:04:06.460 I mean, um, sorry, I don't mean to be a buzzkill.

01:04:08.580 I just lost my mom and, you know, she, uh, uh, thank you, brother.

01:04:15.160 I needed that.

01:04:16.580 Um, my, my mom, um, I get a call recently.

01:04:20.760 It was not that long ago and, um, you know, I, I, she had fallen down the stairs and died

01:04:26.860 unexpectedly, but my mom was, uh, she loved me, but the system broke her, man.

01:04:32.700 It just broke her.

01:04:34.220 I mean, she, she was this really powerful, strong woman who had been through so much.

01:04:38.660 And I just watched this decay over time.

01:04:41.020 And the problem is the government was always trying to help her was on snap and all these

01:04:47.100 programs and all of these things.

01:04:49.440 And when you tell people it's okay, not to add value to the world and be productive,

01:04:55.760 then I've got news for you.

01:04:57.780 A lot of people will just stop being productive and it really hurt.

01:05:01.760 I mean, I tried to save her so many times.

01:05:03.900 And I mean, outside of the just trauma of losing her.

01:05:08.060 And when I did, it was so unexpected.

01:05:09.680 The part that still gets me now is I really always thought I was five minutes from saving

01:05:16.040 her.

01:05:16.840 I swear my wife could tell you, I was like, this time is it like, I'm going to get it

01:05:21.220 this time.

01:05:21.780 And we're going to turn this ship around and can't save her now, you know?

01:05:26.420 And I'm telling you, that's what the government does to people.

01:05:29.520 It's why I'm so passionate like you about this cause me.

01:05:34.060 My wife and I used to sit back at eight o'clock.

01:05:36.680 I've told you this personally, you know, it's true.

01:05:38.800 Cause I've told you many times and your monologue on Fox was must see.

01:05:43.680 It was the only thing, the only thing, only thing I would sit there and like be pegged

01:05:51.160 to the screen.

01:05:51.900 I watched the other guys, but it was like, that was my white boat.

01:05:54.900 Like get the popcorn out, man.

01:05:56.760 Because it was always something I learned that was insightful.

01:06:00.760 And I got that you feel the same way I do.

01:06:04.260 Like I'm not passionate about, I'm not running for office folks.

01:06:07.280 I don't need any more money.

01:06:09.120 I've invested a whole bunch of stuff.

01:06:10.720 Life is good.

01:06:12.060 I am on the air every day as an evangelist for this cause.

01:06:16.420 And that is it.

01:06:17.460 I don't care if I ever get another sponsor.

01:06:20.520 It's to warn people that government is a cancerous plague in your life.

01:06:26.900 That outside of our military, a functioning court system and a local government for some

01:06:32.380 roads and traffic lights, there is nothing these people will do for you that will not

01:06:38.260 destroy you in the end.

01:06:39.780 It's terrible.

01:06:40.500 Thank you for sharing that.

01:06:46.280 I think it's absolutely true.

01:06:47.600 I don't want that to be true, but they don't have a single success, actually.

01:06:52.620 Not one.

01:06:53.360 So, you know, you judge a tree by its fruits.

01:06:55.780 I want to ask you specifically about something that has bothered me for the past six weeks

01:07:00.560 that we do not talk about at all, and you are uniquely positioned to comment on it, and

01:07:05.980 that's the attempted assassination of Trump.

01:07:09.000 And I will stop there.

01:07:10.500 What was that, do you think?

01:07:13.300 Man, you know, I was at a congressional hearing with some members of Congress who actually

01:07:20.820 cared about it, Eli Crane and some others, not necessarily some of the leadership who,

01:07:25.980 I'm not saying they don't care, they just seem don't really, it's just weird.

01:07:29.000 Like the former president, potentially next president of the United States, was shot in

01:07:32.440 the head on live television.

01:07:34.380 A guy was murdered in front of his kids, and the stories disappeared into like the Superman

01:07:39.380 II Phantom Zone, you know?

01:07:40.860 You remember they send Zod to the, it's like, that's the story.

01:07:43.620 It's like out there, and you're like, no one, nobody knows who the guy I was working with.

01:07:47.720 If anyone, no one, there's not, not a social media picture has surfaced to this kid at all.

01:07:52.240 So, someone asked me, was this an inside job, or was this intent?

01:07:57.880 And I never say anything I can't back up, ever, because then my credibility's at stake,

01:08:02.840 and I'm never going to be a sensationalist about it.

01:08:05.780 But I will tell you this, layered incompetence is intent, correct?

01:08:11.720 I'll give you an example, right?

01:08:13.920 Can you repeat what you just said one more time?

01:08:16.380 Layered incompetence is intent.

01:08:19.180 Exactly.

01:08:19.640 So, my brother-in-law's a doctor, right?

01:08:21.940 He's a smart guy.

01:08:24.220 He's a doctor, right?

01:08:25.580 And if he goes to the mall on 110 degree Oklahoma City day, and he's drunk, sorry Chuck, he's

01:08:33.320 not a drinker, but say, he's a smart cat, right?

01:08:35.760 He's sitting right there, and he's drinking, and he's blowing through traffic lights, and he's

01:08:40.680 got some young kid he's babysitting in the car, and then he walks in the mall and leaves

01:08:45.520 him there, and the kid dies.

01:08:46.800 Did he intend to kill him?

01:08:48.140 No.

01:08:49.680 But there is so much layered incompetence, we presume intent.

01:08:54.520 So, when you're a secret service agent, like I was for 12 years, who's done, I mean, high

01:08:59.520 level, hot zone protection operations everywhere from Afghanistan to Indonesia, you know, I've

01:09:05.900 got the receipts to back it up, and that's why they never mess with me.

01:09:08.740 You ever notice not a single person has come out from the secret service and been like,

01:09:13.640 no, that guy's messing.

01:09:15.060 You ever notice no one's telling that?

01:09:16.700 They don't even dare, because I'll just whip out the, remember this?

01:09:19.700 Oh, you weren't there for that, were you?

01:09:21.160 You didn't see that.

01:09:21.900 Okay.

01:09:22.620 So, how was he put on the axe?

01:09:25.900 Like, how are you walked out on stage at all when there's an open threat?

01:09:29.760 How does a guy with a range finder manage to subvert an entire layered, you know, million-dollar

01:09:37.900 security plan?

01:09:39.080 How is it you don't set up a security room?

01:09:41.800 So, you don't have to ask me, was it an inside job or not?

01:09:46.080 Because the truth is, I don't know.

01:09:47.600 I don't know insiders.

01:09:48.900 I'm an outsider.

01:09:49.640 But I can tell you for a fact, layered incompetence is intent.

01:09:55.080 And although it is relevant, obviously, if someone on the inside knew about this, and

01:10:00.940 I find it very suspicious that we know nothing about this shooter at all.

01:10:05.680 I mean, we know everything.

01:10:06.800 If you, God forbid, you were to, you know, shoot a Democrat, which of course, do not,

01:10:11.360 I am absolutely, resolutely against political violence.

01:10:13.760 If you were to, God forbid, do that, I promise you the media would be talking to the neighbors

01:10:18.200 and everything.

01:10:19.460 But why don't we know anything about this shooter, this killer?

01:10:23.580 Why? 1.00

01:10:24.580 You think I'm stupid? 1.00

01:10:26.340 There's something going on here. 1.00

01:10:28.440 And layered incompetence is absolutely intent.

01:10:31.480 Well, okay.

01:10:32.180 So, layered incompetence is intent.

01:10:37.740 Persistent indifference is approval.

01:10:40.340 So, if nobody cares that Donald Trump was just shot in the face six weeks ago, that lets

01:10:47.560 you know they approve of it.

01:10:49.940 No, I mean, nobody's saying, you don't find it odd either?

01:10:53.540 I mean, folks, think about it, right?

01:10:54.880 There was a debate last night, the first one.

01:10:58.380 Since the former president, better than probably 50-50 shots going to be the next president,

01:11:04.240 is on stage.

01:11:05.420 How many people brought up that he was shot in the head?

01:11:08.020 Now, listen, there's nothing even remotely, but I got to tell you, man, imagine, again,

01:11:14.660 God forbid it was Democrat.

01:11:16.180 I protected a Democrat.

01:11:18.020 I protected Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, George W. Bush was like a Democrat sandwich.

01:11:22.660 We don't kill our political leaders, period.

01:11:26.220 But you both know, God forbid someone had done the same thing to Kamala.

01:11:32.240 There would have been moments of silence.

01:11:34.800 Rituals would have been held before.

01:11:36.660 There would have been a seven-minute montage of videos.

01:11:41.080 They would have brought out, like, every single first responder who was there would have been

01:11:46.400 honored.

01:11:47.200 There would have been a closing statement about it.

01:11:49.700 Donald Trump was shot in the head, not in the halcyon days of, like, 1954.

01:11:54.880 This just happened.

01:11:56.580 This just, I just saw a movie a few weeks ago when he stayed, I mean, I was coming out of

01:12:01.200 a movie when I heard it happen.

01:12:04.540 You're 100% correct.

01:12:06.500 The indifference to a man getting shot in the head on live television, and no one even mentions

01:12:12.200 it at the debate.

01:12:13.860 When I said to you before, brothers and sisters, man, the demons are real.

01:12:19.760 Evil is real.

01:12:21.420 It's not some fake thing you've seen.

01:12:23.300 I can't explain it.

01:12:24.400 I don't know what the hell it is.

01:12:25.940 I'm not your preacher. 0.86

01:12:27.100 I'm not your philosopher.

01:12:28.660 Is it some quantum mechanics thing?

01:12:30.700 Is it entanglement?

01:12:31.800 Is it every good, you know, particle has an entanglement?

01:12:35.440 I have no idea.

01:12:37.060 I don't know what it is.

01:12:38.760 But because I don't know what it is doesn't mean it isn't there.

01:12:41.760 My dog doesn't understand physics.

01:12:43.860 It doesn't mean it's not real.

01:12:45.920 It's real.

01:12:46.540 And the fact that not a single person brought up last night, David Muir, I mean, what was

01:12:51.980 with David?

01:12:52.360 Is this guy kidding me?

01:12:53.460 Trump's debating three people last night.

01:12:55.080 And then you get this Lindsay, whatever her name is, that they didn't even have the

01:12:59.380 courtesy to say, you know, Mr. President, you know, we want to acknowledge what happened

01:13:05.700 to you.

01:13:05.920 We feel really terrible from the family at ABC.

01:13:08.700 Thank you for coming out tonight.

01:13:10.260 It would have been a moment where I think even you and I can't stand ABC would have been

01:13:14.480 like, all right, whatever.

01:13:15.460 Like, at least they said it.

01:13:16.580 Not a word. 0.83

01:13:18.220 Not a freaking word about it.

01:13:21.100 Guy got shot in the head on TV.

01:13:22.760 And by the way, he's been amazing.

01:13:24.020 He don't even talk about it.

01:13:25.860 I'm not a name dropper.

01:13:27.220 I promise. 1.00

01:13:27.820 It's stupid. 1.00

01:13:28.640 And you look like a moron when you do it. 1.00

01:13:30.400 And don't ever, don't know, there's two things don't ever do. 1.00

01:13:32.540 Don't ever tell anyone your education because then you're probably an idiot. 1.00

01:13:36.300 And don't ever name drop. 1.00

01:13:38.300 But in this case, it's important.

01:13:39.640 I spoke to him the next day after that.

01:13:43.700 Now, maybe two days.

01:13:44.840 I want to be precise.

01:13:45.660 And this guy, man, it was like nothing happened.

01:13:51.560 I was like, hey, Mr. President.

01:13:52.960 I was calling about something.

01:13:53.840 I never call him, ever, ever.

01:13:55.840 So whatever I do, trust me, he picks up because I never call him.

01:13:58.940 And I said to him, man, being a Secret Service guy, you know, shot in the head on that, like,

01:14:05.900 I can't, I'm horrified, you know, we let you down. 0.98

01:14:08.640 He was like, yeah, that sucked, man. 0.99

01:14:10.320 Shot in the head. 0.99

01:14:11.020 He was like, I heard the bullet whizzed by.

01:14:12.320 And then he was like, I think he went on to, like, ask me about, like, Egg McMuffins or

01:14:16.900 something.

01:14:17.200 Like, he's just like, you know, I'm like, he's just the most, any other politician would

01:14:24.360 have done a National Day of Remembrance.

01:14:26.660 This guy got shot in the head on live TV. 0.96

01:14:28.860 And he's like, yeah, man, really sucked. 0.98

01:14:30.640 Hurt my ear. 0.93

01:14:31.280 I got to wear this bandage.

01:14:33.580 That's just who he is, man.

01:14:36.060 Sorry.

01:14:36.640 Had to throw that in there.

01:14:38.360 What it said, I completely agree with that.

01:14:42.320 And in fact, I mean, his first reaction to getting shot that night was, I can't believe

01:14:47.580 how brave everybody at the event was.

01:14:50.660 They didn't run.

01:14:51.540 Right.

01:14:52.000 Nothing about it.

01:14:52.380 And I thought, here, this guy's been attacked as a narcissist, among many other things, a

01:14:56.580 threat to democracy.

01:14:57.820 And his first concern is for everybody else.

01:15:00.000 And he's impressed by their bravery.

01:15:02.600 I mean, just quite amazing.

01:15:04.540 But I do think, and I don't want to get dark about it or whatever, but the fact that, I mean,

01:15:10.200 for example, last night at the debate, he said to Kamala Harris, like, you've attacked

01:15:13.860 me as a threat to democracy, not just as someone you disagree with or the opposing, you know,

01:15:19.200 your opponent, but as like an actual threat to the United States and its continued existence, 0.95

01:15:25.000 maybe you inspired the guy to shoot me in the face.

01:15:28.420 And everyone's just like, oh, stop complaining. 1.00

01:15:30.300 Oh, shut up. 0.99

01:15:30.920 It's just a two-two-three. 1.00

01:15:31.780 It's not a big deal.

01:15:32.340 Like, I feel like they're for violence.

01:15:37.140 I mean, I don't know how else to interpret that.

01:15:39.480 A normal person is horrified by someone getting shot.

01:15:42.800 By the way, if Kamala Harris got shot in the face, I would be totally opposed to that.

01:15:45.540 I'm against shooting people in the face.

01:15:46.760 I just am.

01:15:47.580 And I don't like her at all.

01:15:49.360 But they're not against it.

01:15:51.080 That's what I'm saying.

01:15:52.120 Well, but what you're, you know, I think you and I always ask people to bring facts and

01:15:57.200 data and we call them, yeah, jokingly call them receipts on the show.

01:16:00.500 Like, what you just said isn't even remotely controversial.

01:16:05.500 I mean, that the left, I'm not going to stigmatize all Democrats, but that the modern left, the

01:16:11.000 progressive, liberal, radical left, worships violence as a political tool of oppression

01:16:17.520 is not even remotely controversial if you just read the news.

01:16:22.380 I mean, you had people, am I crazy?

01:16:24.940 Like, you all saw it.

01:16:25.760 So BLM and Antifa decided it's a good idea to start burning down American cities, which

01:16:31.020 ironically were mostly liberal.

01:16:33.500 It's like, wow, they, you know, you ever hear, you know, the dog, you know why dogs

01:16:37.700 like generally, they won't, they, you put a dog in a cage to train them because they 1.00

01:16:41.700 won't like shit in their own den kind of thing. 1.00

01:16:43.400 Not liberals. 1.00

01:16:44.120 Like they will right there.

01:16:44.980 Like you can't train them.

01:16:45.760 Like they're burning their own cities down and you've got Ali. 1.00

01:16:49.500 Hold on.

01:16:50.080 They didn't have a show.

01:16:50.780 I mean, I'm not the first one to note you, you know, try that in a small town.

01:16:54.780 It actually won't work.

01:16:55.800 It will not.

01:16:56.920 It's not, it's not going to, it's like, you've got this, like, you're so correct because

01:17:06.440 you've got this like Stockholm syndrome with liberals who are like, if I don't let another

01:17:12.780 angry liberal burn my liberal city down, then I'm part of the problem too. 0.99

01:17:16.920 You're like, what? 1.00

01:17:18.160 Are you always this stupid? 1.00

01:17:19.980 Like, did you just hear yourself? 1.00

01:17:21.460 You idiot. 1.00

01:17:22.520 So it's like, they're burning the cities down. 1.00

01:17:25.940 We're all watching this.

01:17:27.140 I mean, brother, you and I were on the air when this is going down and Ali Velshi from

01:17:33.020 MSNBC, I'm pretty sure it was Ali.

01:17:34.640 He's like, it's a mostly peaceful, but there's a building in the background, bro.

01:17:42.080 It's burning.

01:17:43.560 And there's people like, yeah, this is great.

01:17:47.340 Like, there is zero dispute.

01:17:49.940 The left glorifies violence.

01:17:51.980 Zero.

01:17:53.000 We don't have this problem at all.

01:17:55.080 People ask me all the time, oh, political violence, what did January 6th say?

01:17:59.380 Don't, don't riot.

01:18:00.740 Don't hit cops.

01:18:02.240 It's not hard.

01:18:02.720 Wait, what's the problem?

01:18:05.080 Oh, you're shocked at my answer.

01:18:06.460 That's fascinating because Kamala Harris, according to the FBI, was almost killed by a pipe bomb 1.00

01:18:11.300 and the only people covering it are freaking conservatives.

01:18:15.120 Not you.

01:18:15.600 You told me I'm supposed to be concerned about violence on January 6th.

01:18:19.180 I'm the only one talking about it outside of a few other reporters like Julie Kelly.

01:18:23.240 They love violence.

01:18:24.940 They love it.

01:18:25.620 And here's the reason.

01:18:27.800 Here's the reason.

01:18:28.500 And don't ever forget this.

01:18:30.040 This is the most frightening part about the modern liberal.

01:18:32.840 See, we're all God-fearing patriots in this room.

01:18:35.720 So you have a built-in emergency break on your behavior, right?

01:18:40.900 Your values do not come from the Constitution.

01:18:44.060 They're only protected by this document.

01:18:45.880 But they come from God with a capital G. 0.72

01:18:48.620 That's a different power.

01:18:52.640 But it gives them, it creates an asymmetric war for us.

01:18:57.040 And it does.

01:18:57.580 And you should never forget this.

01:18:59.480 Because of that emergency break, God, there are things you won't do to other people.

01:19:04.320 You just won't.

01:19:05.680 You will not go and punch Tucker Carlson or me in the face.

01:19:08.940 You won't do it.

01:19:09.800 Because, not because someone told you not to do it, but because God has imbued in you a sense of values.

01:19:16.620 And you just won't do it.

01:19:19.600 The modern secular liberal has no emergency break at all.

01:19:24.540 When the socialist talks about the ends justifying the means, they're not kidding.

01:19:30.660 The means mean nothing to them.

01:19:33.280 So political violence for them is totally justifiable because there's no moral compass.

01:19:38.560 There's no emergency break.

01:19:40.460 And if they say, well, if we put shock troops in the street, we'll own the streets, scare the hell out of the conservatives,

01:19:46.820 and we'll engage in a group of hecklers' vetoes where they won't even speak out,

01:19:51.680 then how's that not a W for us?

01:19:54.380 And in their perverse minds, that calculus makes perfect sense.

01:20:01.460 It's their credo.

01:20:02.720 It's how they live. 1.00

01:20:03.860 You just have to understand it or you'll always get your ass kicked by it. 0.99

01:20:08.560 So what they're doing is committing vandalism against the country. 0.99

01:20:12.120 It's purely destructive.

01:20:13.100 It's not creative.

01:20:13.820 They're building nothing.

01:20:14.680 They're only tearing things down.

01:20:16.220 They pull down statues.

01:20:17.280 They replace them with nothing except the homeless.

01:20:19.880 So you ask, who would do that?

01:20:22.820 Who commits vandalism?

01:20:24.200 Where does that impulse come from, the rage?

01:20:26.620 And, of course, it comes from within.

01:20:27.900 Happy people don't do that.

01:20:29.540 Happy people sort of enjoy the flowers.

01:20:32.500 They don't set them on fire.

01:20:35.420 I do think the main difference between left and right in this country, it's not political.

01:20:39.980 It's fundamental.

01:20:40.740 It's one group is happy and the other group is truly miserable.

01:20:44.620 They hate themselves and therefore you.

01:20:47.260 So, by the way, people who hate themselves have no problem hating you.

01:20:51.500 Be very afraid of people who hate themselves like Kamala Harris.

01:20:54.100 When that camera came on her at the open, I spent my life on TV.

01:20:58.060 I can see fear instantly.

01:20:59.720 She was terrified.

01:21:00.920 And she kind of pulled herself together, but she was afraid.

01:21:03.840 How do you stay happy?

01:21:05.580 You're on the happy team.

01:21:07.380 Not to get too personal, but what is your program for staying happy?

01:21:13.040 You know, I'm not a happy guy.

01:21:20.320 No, I'm not.

01:21:21.180 I love my wife a lot.

01:21:22.700 I talk about her all the time in the show.

01:21:24.600 She's become kind of a semi-celebrity just from my show and her, like, crazy date night stories.

01:21:29.940 But, you know, you ever read the book, The Natural?

01:21:34.040 Not the movie.

01:21:34.560 The movie's good.

01:21:35.760 The book, the Malamud book.

01:21:37.560 And there's a line where Roy Hobbs' girlfriend says to Roy, you know, that we all live two lives.

01:21:45.000 The one we learn from and the one we live after that.

01:21:48.020 And that's a great line, but it's the second part she says that really matters.

01:21:50.980 She says the real path to happiness is through suffering.

01:21:54.540 And she's right.

01:21:56.820 Now, there's a lot of, like, biochemical reasons beyond the scope of this conversation that I won't bore you with about dopamine and all this other crap.

01:22:03.280 But God gave you a really intricate happiness reward system.

01:22:07.320 But the only way to access it so that it feels good, that really feels good, that it's deep, not liberal happiness.

01:22:16.880 Coke, blow, crack, drinking, heroin, whatever.

01:22:19.880 I'm talking about true happiness where you feel you can die one day satisfied.

01:22:27.300 Make no mistake and listen to what I'm telling you.

01:22:29.900 This is the best advice you're ever going to get.

01:22:31.440 Not because it came from me, but because someone gave it to me.

01:22:33.740 And it was genius.

01:22:34.980 It's only through suffering.

01:22:36.740 So people ask me, like, I joke about this cold plunge thing I have, which sucks in the morning.

01:22:41.780 Like, nothing you've ever seen.

01:22:42.700 You ever jump in 40-degree water at 6 in the morning?

01:22:45.280 And every morning, and just sit there and freeze?

01:22:48.740 You know why I do it?

01:22:49.980 Anyone have any idea? 0.99

01:22:51.720 Because it sucks. 0.98

01:22:53.540 That's why. 0.99

01:22:54.840 That's why I do it. 0.99

01:22:56.180 Because it sucks. 0.99

01:22:57.640 No, I'm serious. 0.97

01:22:58.640 Yeah, there's cold shock proteins and all this stuff.

01:23:01.560 Your brain is intricately wired by the intelligent creator to have to earn every ounce of happiness.

01:23:10.400 My wife and I have a date night on Friday night.

01:23:13.080 That's the one night a week, me and her let loose.

01:23:16.200 And you know what?

01:23:16.860 I earn that. 0.99

01:23:17.740 I'm up every morning, working out, jumping in the damn cold plunge. 0.99

01:23:22.580 I'm 50 years old. 0.99

01:23:23.820 I'm falling apart.

01:23:24.780 I'm sitting there squatting, deadlifting, sweating.

01:23:27.720 I'm done with my show.

01:23:29.200 I'm up from 6.

01:23:30.160 I bang out work from, what, 10 to 3 p.m., right back to show prep the next day, right in the sauna.

01:23:37.280 My wife comes to me and doesn't do the cold plunge. 1.00

01:23:39.100 She hates it.

01:23:39.560 She'll do the sauna. 0.71

01:23:40.940 I sit in 190 degrees for 30 minutes.

01:23:43.800 Why do I sit in it? 0.99

01:23:45.340 Because it sucks. 1.00

01:23:47.420 That's why. 0.99

01:23:48.920 And you know what?

01:23:49.660 When you're done with it, you ever listen to Goggins? 0.99

01:23:52.220 David, you should be doing things that suck. 0.99

01:23:55.860 And you know what? 0.99

01:23:56.580 Your Friday nights with your wife are going to be the greatest gift you ever got.

01:24:03.920 Because, you know why? 0.93

01:24:06.360 Because it doesn't suck. 0.97

01:24:09.080 And you're so used to everything sucking. 0.92

01:24:12.220 So am I happy? 0.96

01:24:13.440 No. 0.80

01:24:14.380 Six days a week, I'm freaking miserable. 1.00

01:24:16.300 But I am as happy as a pig in a shit pile on Friday night. 1.00

01:24:21.700 And I love my life. 0.99

01:24:23.640 And I'm not suicidal.

01:24:25.820 And I love Jesus.

01:24:27.720 I love my life.

01:24:29.700 I love it.

01:24:30.800 And you'll love it, too. 0.97

01:24:32.480 Do things that suck. 1.00

01:24:34.440 Don't be a liberal. 1.00

01:24:36.240 Seek out the fake stuff.

01:24:38.300 Fake, phony stuff.

01:24:39.480 That's what they do. 0.96

01:24:40.200 That's why they hate themselves.

01:24:41.720 Everything is fake and artificial.

01:24:43.980 Praise for each other. 1.00

01:24:45.460 Stupid op-eds they write. 1.00

01:24:47.160 So what do they do? 1.00

01:24:47.780 They're all smoking dope and weed all day.

01:24:50.220 Be getting up.

01:24:50.960 Who the hell gets up at 10 o'clock in the morning?

01:24:53.020 10 o'clock in the morning.

01:24:54.020 I'm done with my day 10 o'clock in the morning. 1.00

01:24:56.200 Get your ass up. 1.00

01:24:58.500 Sorry. 0.95

01:25:01.380 That is so awesome.

01:25:02.620 I just love that.

01:25:04.560 Thanks, man.

01:25:05.200 So take us out with where you think the country is in a year and where you think the people

01:25:13.460 in this room are in a year.

01:25:15.840 You described your listeners not just as people who tune in but as part of a movement.

01:25:20.020 Where is that movement in a year?

01:25:22.280 You know, I'm worried about the country.

01:25:24.380 I'm worried because having lived through, well, I was young with the Reagan revolution.

01:25:32.300 I don't want to pretend I was active in politics when I was 10.

01:25:35.800 You know, I was born in 74.

01:25:37.940 But I did live through it and I became fascinated by it at the time.

01:25:41.480 So having lived through that and then having lived through Rudy Giuliani's New York, I have

01:25:45.560 this expression, again, if you're listeners, you know what it is.

01:25:48.400 And the question I ask everyone, I know the country is blessed and touched by the hand

01:25:53.960 of God.

01:25:54.440 I know it.

01:25:54.880 I know evil is real, but I know good is real too.

01:25:57.160 I do.

01:25:57.620 I know God is real.

01:25:58.700 Like, I feel it.

01:26:00.180 I believe in it.

01:26:01.600 It's an article of faith.

01:26:02.820 I can't prove it to you. 0.98

01:26:03.620 I can't pull a spreadsheet out of my butt and say, hey, here it is. 0.97

01:26:06.420 But I'm telling you this country is different. 0.97

01:26:09.120 We should not have survived the Revolutionary War. 0.53

01:26:11.260 The odds were 5,000 to 1 we were to win that against the British Empire.

01:26:14.940 We were saved in the War of 1812.

01:26:16.820 Well, some historians will tell you by a thunderstorm.

01:26:19.560 I mean, we shouldn't have won that either.

01:26:21.500 We should have never survived the Civil War and been more prosperous.

01:26:25.860 We shot each other.

01:26:27.020 It was gruesome.

01:26:29.140 Then we survived the hippies.

01:26:30.840 I mean, how the hell survives that?

01:26:32.640 I mean, we should not be here.

01:26:35.380 And it's not only, I mean, we've spent the country into oblivion.

01:26:38.940 We have, you know, I hate to wear it literally, right?

01:26:41.700 I can't stand it. 0.99

01:26:43.120 But we have, like, non-figurative morons running this place. 0.99

01:26:48.380 And not only are we still here, but we're the most powerful empire in the history of the known cosmos. 0.99

01:26:56.880 Now, it's not even close.

01:26:58.920 And you're like, so, forgive me, but that is not by power of human beings alone.

01:27:05.780 There's some divine, something divine about the United States.

01:27:10.380 It's special.

01:27:11.480 I mean it.

01:27:12.020 That's some talking point, brothers.

01:27:14.360 I'm not running for office.

01:27:16.120 The problem I have is it's all cyclical.

01:27:18.720 Like I said to you before, an unintentional segue, like, think of the country as a collective organism.

01:27:23.940 It has to do things that suck in order to enjoy the good times. 0.99

01:27:27.520 And unfortunately, we do a lot of things that suck. 0.69

01:27:30.060 So, having lived through Giuliani's New York and Reagan's United States, I ask people all the time, do you think it's bad enough yet? 0.72

01:27:41.320 Because we'll always, Churchill said it, right?

01:27:43.720 Given, you know, given all the opportunities in the end, the United States will always do the right thing, right?

01:27:48.960 We'll always figure it out, but it has to get bad enough.

01:27:54.180 And what makes me worry, Tucker, is I just don't think it's bad enough yet.

01:28:00.060 I don't wish suffering on anyone, but I just told you I bring suffering on my own life because I know it makes the good times that much better.

01:28:08.520 And I know in New York, I live this, I live through.

01:28:12.880 I think 2,500 people were murdered in the city.

01:28:17.700 Do you have any idea?

01:28:19.140 That's like Afghanistan, like under the Taliban.

01:28:23.400 And everybody in New York was like, oh, this is it.

01:28:26.180 They're definitely going to elect a Republican. 0.73

01:28:27.720 They were finding two, three dead bodies a day.

01:28:31.340 Giuliani runs.

01:28:32.440 And I don't know if you guys remember what happened.

01:28:34.080 Everybody's like, oh, he won.

01:28:34.820 No, he didn't.

01:28:35.660 No, he lost.

01:28:37.460 Did you know that?

01:28:38.600 And everybody was like, what?

01:28:41.340 How the hell do you do?

01:28:42.300 He lost in a sliver to David Dinkins.

01:28:44.880 They called him David Stinkins.

01:28:45.800 1989.

01:28:46.640 Yeah, he lost.

01:28:48.260 No one in New York could believe it.

01:28:49.840 They were like, what the hell has to happen?

01:28:53.840 What has to happen?

01:28:55.660 Well, I'll tell you what happened.

01:28:57.180 2,500 more people were murdered for four more years.

01:29:01.260 People died, like actually died, brutal deaths.

01:29:05.360 And then Giuliani ran again.

01:29:07.280 And he won in a close race.

01:29:10.840 And then he ran again four years later after cleaning the city up.

01:29:14.000 I lived through it.

01:29:16.020 You know what he won by in a city where the registration advantage was 10 to 1, Democrats or Republican?

01:29:21.160 He won by 18 points.

01:29:25.520 Go look it up.

01:29:27.180 18 points.

01:29:29.900 So I'm optimistic because I know there's a divine hand of God touching this place.

01:29:35.060 I'm just afraid we're not even close to bad enough yet.

01:29:39.400 And anyone telling you, oh, yeah, it's bad enough.

01:29:41.660 People are going to wake up.

01:29:42.880 We had inflation.

01:29:44.040 It was, you know, 9%.

01:29:45.620 9?

01:29:46.480 Under Jimmy Carter, you had mortgage rates that were 15%.

01:29:49.280 People have to suffer.

01:29:51.820 It's not you.

01:29:52.880 I know what you're thinking.

01:29:54.380 You're out there thinking what me and Tucker are thinking.

01:29:56.400 We want to just wake them up and go, you don't have to do this cold plunge thing.

01:30:00.700 There's a way out of this. 1.00

01:30:02.140 It's called, like, don't get dead and don't be an asshole. 1.00

01:30:07.120 Like, this isn't hard. 1.00

01:30:08.800 Here's the general rule.

01:30:09.840 Don't kill people in the street.

01:30:11.740 Try to give as little money to the government as possible.

01:30:14.140 Control your own health care. 0.99

01:30:15.880 And, like, don't cut my kids' genitals off when they're young. 0.99

01:30:18.680 Like, this isn't hard. 0.99

01:30:20.320 And they're like, they're like, no, no.

01:30:22.300 They're like, but Dan, we got to try it first.

01:30:26.480 Okay.

01:30:27.100 No, I can't stop you.

01:30:28.300 Go ahead.

01:30:29.180 I don't know.

01:30:29.780 I know we'll save ourselves.

01:30:32.240 I just don't know if we're there yet.

01:30:34.820 Next time we meet, I would like, not in a live setting, but a very detailed description of your Friday night.

01:30:41.460 But in the meantime, Dan Bongino.

01:30:44.040 You guys hear my updates on Monday on the show, right?

01:30:47.760 They're pretty crazy.

01:30:49.180 Don't ever come out with me on Friday night.

01:30:51.360 We've actually been, like, thrown out of bars and stuff.

01:30:53.800 You know, Kid Rock has that song, get tossed in a mix and thrown out of bars.

01:30:58.780 I've actually lived that.

01:31:00.140 It wasn't my fault, though, I promise.

01:31:02.020 I didn't do anything.

01:31:03.080 I didn't do anything.

01:31:05.640 I totally believe you.

01:31:07.160 Dan Bongino, thank you.

01:31:08.360 You got it.

01:31:09.260 Amazing.

01:31:09.900 Thank you so much.

01:31:11.300 Thank you.

01:31:12.520 I appreciate it.

01:31:14.140 Thanks a lot.

01:31:15.260 You guys are welcome.

01:31:16.820 That was a lot.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - September 12, 2024

Tucker and Dan Bongino React to the Trump v. Harris Debate

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