Tucker Carlson Election Night LIVE From Mar-a-Lago With Special Guests
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Summary
Kamala Harris has won the primary in Vermont, and Donald Trump is now the next president of the United States. But what does that mean for the rest of the country? And why did it happen? Alex and Tucker try to figure it out. Plus, why did Georgia become more liberal than it ever has before? And what s going on in Florida and Georgia? Special thanks to our sponsor, Sunnybrook, for sponsoring this episode. Special thanks also to Tucker for the question of the day, and to Sarah for the conspiracy theory of the week, "Why did the media let Donald Trump win the election?" And special thanks to the folks at CNN for the fact that they asked us to do a live show on election night, and we did our best to answer all of your questions. Special thanks and shout outs to Tucker and Sarah for their hard work on this episode, and for all of their support and hard work in getting us out there and getting us on the ground in time to make it to the ground floor of the 2020 election. Thanks, Tucker and Alex, for all your hard work and all your support and all the hard work you put in. We appreciate it. And we'll see you next week with a new episode of Special Thanks! on Election Night. - Special Thanks to Tucker, Alex, Sarah, and Sarah, for coming up with the idea for the joke of the night, Special Thanks, Special Thank You! by Tucker, for the Question of the Week. and Special Thanks: Special Thanks and Good Morning America by Special Thanks. by Dr. Tom and Special Thank you, Tucker, from the Pollinator, for sending us a question and a question from a listener who asked us about the question: What do you're most excited about the election night? and we'll answer it! and the answer is: What would you like to know about the future of the election? by Alex and Sarah's favorite thing that's going to be the most important thing you're going to vote for in 2020 and what do you'd like to see in the next episode of 2020? and what would you would you do in 2020, and how do you think about the next election in 2020? and we'd like your answer it? Thanks again, Sarah and Sarah would like to hear more of your thoughts and your thoughts on what you're looking forward to hearing more of that in the coming weeks? Thank you for all the love and support?
Transcript
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We're in an anteroom in Mar-a-Lago on election night.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene sitting directly across from me.
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We are moments from getting another tranche of election results.
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It looks like Kamala Harris has won the state of Vermont.
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But really just Burlington, if you come right down to it.
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I mean, there's just no chance she won the Northeast Kingdom.
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There's no chance she won the pretty parts of Vermont, just the urban slum in Vermont.
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How do you feel with the limited data we now have about this election?
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I feel optimistic, but I'm cautious because, you know, for the past eight or nine years,
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we've watched the left and the media totally destroy Donald Trump's character, defame him,
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slander him, impeach him twice, try to lock him up, try to bankrupt him, try to kill him.
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So my thoughts and questions are, why would they let him win?
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And what I'm always struck by, we were just with, spent an hour or two with Trump just
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a minute ago, I think you were there, is the distance between the Trump that you hear about
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and the Trump that you actually experience when you're with him.
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And the first thing that I always notice about Trump, other than the fact he's truly hilarious,
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I mean, that's like the least radical person I think I know.
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You know, and I think maybe it boils down to this.
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They're really angry and jealous that they don't have Donald Trump.
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Trump has won the state of Florida by looks like about a million votes so far.
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That state seems to be just like a solid Republican state at this point.
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Well, so many people moved there after COVID, rightfully so.
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Suicide rates in children were higher than they've ever been, as if any child should ever commit suicide.
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But yeah, a lot of people definitely moved to Florida to escape all those kinds of lives.
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Well, then can I ask, I mean, maybe a controversial question, but a lot of people moved to Georgia, too.
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Why would Georgia, of all states, a state I always think of as reliably conservative, I've never met a liberal from Georgia, why is it even up for grabs at this point?
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Well, a lot of people moved to Georgia, but people have been, or businesses have been recruited to Georgia.
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We have Hollywood because somebody thought that was a good idea to give them tax credits.
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But we've had a lot, you know, electric vehicle battery plants.
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Wait, they brought actors to your state on purpose?
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I really liked Georgia back when we didn't have the Hollywood there.
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Yeah, a lot of actors in your state, like real people who aren't pretending to be somebody else.
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Yeah, Democrat, I mean, I'm sorry, Republicans said that.
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It sounded like Democrats would be the ones to do something like that.
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So right now we have Donald Trump at about 55% in the state of Florida, Kamala Harris at 44%.
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What do you think is going to happen in your state tonight in Georgia?
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Well, they called my race at 7 p.m., literally when the polls closed.
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I think of you and Trump as very similar in the arc of your public careers.
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You both came from outside of politics into politics.
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You were both declared dangerous to the country almost immediately.
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You were, for a period of, like, a while, months, the most reviled person in the world.
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And then you became, you kind of endured, you stuck it out.
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The Republican Party tried to kick you out, hung in there.
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And then you became one of the most influential people in the party.
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It does kind of feel like Donald Trump's story.
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And I'm still alive, even though several have tried.
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But, you know, it's pretty interesting to me, Tucker.
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I get to listen to all these Republicans that denounced me and voted to kick me off committees
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and talked bad about me and slandered me and distanced themselves from me.
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I get to sound, listen to them, and they very much sound like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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As a matter of fact, they say the same things that I say.
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Not all of them, but quite a few have apologized.
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Well, when they get yelled at, when they go back home by their own constituents and
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they get asked, why can't you be more like Marjorie Taylor Greene?
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Here's another similarity between you and Trump.
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He was, I'll never forget it, attacked on the front page of every newspaper in the country
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for saying that white supremacists in Charlottesville were good people.
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You were attacked for using the phrase Jewish space lasers, which you never used.
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No, I attacked PG&E, actually, which ironically has been in the news the past couple of days
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So I want to go to the betting markets really quick.
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Kamala Harris, 34%, with about $282 million on the line so far.
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I think, and aren't those bettors, they're not rich people, right?
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I really don't know enough about the betting market, but I would say most of them are not
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betting massive sums of money, trying to swing the numbers.
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I think they're legitimately betting that Donald Trump's going to win.
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I couldn't, after over 30 years of trying to follow this stuff and getting more confused
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every cycle, I feel like I know less about politics every cycle.
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Well, I can't make any sense of the polls, and I don't think I'm being like a superstitious
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villager when I say, I think they're just all manipulated.
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What do you think of the national polls in this season?
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Well, I know I've never been polled, and I know most of my family and friends have never
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So my common sense says, how can the polls be correct if everyone I know doesn't participate
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But is there a possibility that polls are used not to measure public opinion, but to
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So we had this outlier poll that got a great deal of attention in Arizona that showed Donald
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I don't know a single living person who thinks that's going to happen, but that poll was everywhere,
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They're kind of dumb a lot of the times, actually.
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Well, I mean, it's easy to get scared, but I think the reality is that we've seen mass
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misinformation by the media, by Democrats, by Republicans, by consultants, and it is used
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to sway the opinion of the people, also push their actions, right?
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And so if they're told over and over and over again, every single day in the news, that
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Donald Trump is a Nazi, Donald Trump is Hitler, Donald Trump is a fascist, Donald Trump is
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a dictator, Donald Trump is losing, according to all these polls, what that's going to do
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is it's going to make his supporters less likely to go out and vote for him.
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Or embarrass them into not telling others that they're voting for Donald Trump.
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I want to ask you about that in two seconds, but just for an electoral update, we're at Kamala
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Harris, 35, Kamala, Kamala, Carmela, I guess, Harris, 35 electoral votes so far, Donald Trump,
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You know, I feel like we've been campaigning for years now.
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I would love to know tonight, but I have been shocked so many times over the past couple
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I've quit predicting to Barack Obama, who I think, you know, if you're to lay responsibility
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for the destruction of America at any one person, I think it would be Barack Obama, the
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most deceptive president in our history and most anti-American.
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He just tweeted, you know, we may not know for a long time, days, and that's normal.
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India, the biggest democracy in the world, gets its votes counted in by sundown.
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And the reason why he's saying we may not know for days is because they plan on stealing
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Well, I, you know, I'm an election denier, so I fall in that camp.
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You're an elected official, and so you have the right to comment on elections and say whatever
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If you can't give your opinion on elections, then who can?
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Yeah, can I give my opinion on voting machines as well?
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I talked to people in my district that voted on these voting machines and that switched
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But because our country is so disgusting and attacks people that come out and tell the
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truth and try to be whistleblowers about what's happening, these people are scared to
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As someone who spent like 12 hours in depositions from voting machine companies, not even named
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in the suits, no, I'm very aware of their efforts to intimidate the rest of us into silence.
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So let me read Barack Obama's, Barack Hussein Obama, as Trump says, quote, from his tweet,
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It took several days to count every ballot in 2020, and it's very likely we won't know
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So please keep a few things in mind as you make your voice heard today.
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One, thousands of election workers around this country are working hard today.
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Two, don't share things before checking your sources.
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So let me ask you, we have electronic voting machines because they are supposedly, they are
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Leaving aside whether they're more accurate or not, there's a lot of evidence they're not
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Countries with hand-counted paper ballots get their results in faster than we do.
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So what could possibly be the point of spending money on a technology that's slower and less
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Well, they get a contract and they make a lot of money.
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But actually, I think there's multiple layers there.
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The government is great at handing out contracts to their friends, right?
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So you have to remember that these companies make a lot of money off of providing their
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I think our elections belong to the American people.
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And the American people, largely and overwhelmingly on both sides of the aisle, don't like the
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I mean, if I say I don't like Starbucks coffee and I don't want to drink Starbucks coffee
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anymore, Starbucks is not going to sue me about it, right?
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But yet, for some reason, these voting machine companies, when you say, I don't like the voting
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All of a sudden, we all get threatened that we're going to sue.
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Some left-wing oligarch will pay the voting machine company to haul you into court.
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They stole my text messages and gave them to the New York Times.
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Which is a complete violation of your right to privacy.
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I would say Dominion's a very sinister company.
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You know, talking about Barack Obama's tweet, there was a message in there that I read when
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you were reading it and I was looking at it, I think something to take away from his tweet
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to me is he was saying, number one, be nice to the election workers.
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We have election workers pushing out Republican poll watchers today.
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But it's also an inversion of the way things are supposed to work.
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I mean, I think you should be polite to everyone, including Barack Obama, by the way.
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But the onus is on the people who work for us to be nice to us since they're our employees
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And then the second one was check your sources before you share information.
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Well, he's a liar, so I'm not going to take accuracy advice from him.
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This is from Glenn Greenwald, one of our favorite journalists, one of the few good
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Trump is up 11 points in the heavily Latino Miami-Dade County with 80% of the votes counted.
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With 80% of the votes in, Trump is 55 to Kamala Harris is 44%.
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For a man that's talking about securing the border, and this is a heavily Latino county.
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I mean, that's what my math isn't great, but that's a swing of 41 points in eight years.
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I wonder how many Puerto Ricans live in Miami-Dade.
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This is, to me, the long-term, the most significant number to come out of tonight, which is what
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So, for some reason, this is not discussed much in public, but for a guy who's very famous
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for being a Klansman or a racist or a Nazi, he seems to be doing pretty well on Hispanic
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To me, it'll be a celebration, but actually, it means a lot more because it's time to get
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If he wins tonight, the most dangerous time in our history will start.
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We have thought the most dangerous time have been the past four years or so.
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If President Trump goes back in the White House, it truly will be, in my opinion, something
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They can't let him achieve what he has promised to the country.
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They can't let Republicans support him to achieve the agenda that he's promised to the country
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because it destroys everything that the entire world, the globalists, the elites, climate change,
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If America stops supporting the climate change lie, China stops supporting the climate change
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All the other dominoes fall, and that one goes away.
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That's been one of their biggest false gods that they've worshipped for a long time.
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Going even further, what have they been trying to do for, I don't know, 20 years or more,
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They've been supporting migration, invading all—look at Europe.
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And if we really secure the border and shut it down like we're planning to do, that's
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So if President Trump goes into office on January 20th of 2025, I honestly don't know
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what they're going to do to stop him, and I can't fathom it, but I think it's going to
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You have a keen appreciation for the ruthlessness of the other side, having been his victim.
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But in the meantime, if Trump wins, pretty great.
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I'm going to go find some fake news person and just punch him straight in the nose.
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Yeah, I don't mind a little bit of violence like that.
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All right, so we are bringing up next a friend of mine, someone who, without getting into too
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much detail, was one of the rare members of the first Trump administration who, in my estimation,
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stayed true to the vision of the candidate from the first day to the last.
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Not everybody in the first Trump administration did that.
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But there were some people of high character and clear vision.
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And at the very top of that list would be our guest, Cliff Sims, who sits across from
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me now, who's involved in the—will be involved in the president's transition efforts
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So what do you think we're looking at, to the extent we know?
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Well, we just have to be honest with the people here.
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Fake news is in some other part of the complex.
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I've sat on so many sets on election night and kind of bullshit on it.
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Well, it looks like Macomb County reporting, you know, whatever.
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You know, as a political operative, you get all these texts throughout the day saying, what are you hearing?
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I think about the same thing in the White House.
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When you work there, you realize how often you experience events through the television, even though you're sitting in the building, you know?
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I mean, I don't pay any attention to the polls.
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But I do think that there is something to this betting markets stuff because people are—there's, like, real money.
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They're—Kalshi, am I pronouncing that correctly?
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I mean, the one thing I'll say about it is these are not yet mature markets.
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And so we're at a point where if somebody gets a wild hair and it's like, I'm going to drop a million dollars down on this right now, they can swing it.
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But I just think there's always something to be said when, like, people are willing to put their money behind something and say, like, I believe this is going to happen.
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I'm going to actually put some skin in the game.
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I mean, we are seeing a little bit of data starting to trickle in here and there, and I will say it looks favorable.
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But we're still at a point now where it's really hard to say what's going to happen.
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Well, I mean, how many times do they have to be wrong before you're just like, you know, I don't even read them anymore?
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I mean, one of the things that I took away from the time that I spent with you in Maine was when you were in Maine, it's not that you're completely cut off from the world.
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But you're very selective about your consumption of information.
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And I have found that there is an inverse relationship between the amount that I pay attention to the news and my personal happiness.
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So this is something you and I have talked about.
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I mean, there are reasons that things – wisdom that has stood the test of time, there's a reason it has stood the test of time.
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There's not a lot of what happens on cable news that ever stands the test of time.
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And so there's probably something to that that we should probably eliminate.
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What do you think it feels like to work in cable news for 25 years and realize that nothing you've said on TV matters at all or will be remembered by anybody or affected anything in any meaningful way?
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I mean, look, Tucker, you know these people better than anybody.
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There is a reason why these are the most miserable people.
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I mean, they are – I know a lot of them personally now.
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And they are miserable, sad, depressed people who have a very difficult time finding any meaning in what they're doing.
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And so instead they chase – there's almost a drug addict element to it where they're chasing the next little dopamine hit.
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And this is like the people that do like Politico Playbook and these –
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I could name the number of happy ones on one hand.
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I knew – I lived next to Andrea Mitchell for years.
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They're also the least self-reflective people I've ever met in my life.
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And that would actually do them some good to like have a little bit of self-reflection about this because that's where you find meaning and happiness by reflecting on the things that you are doing and have done and trying to extrapolate meaning from them.
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And there are a couple that I will say is very interesting and you and I know them.
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I won't say their names, who are wrestling with that right now and have been like in an existential crisis that they're like, why does anything – nothing I'm doing matters.
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And I look at the people who are 10, 20, 30 years ahead of me in this career track and they're all miserable.
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And maybe this isn't what I should do with my life.
00:28:51.960
I mean, there's something to be said for you and what you've done.
00:28:58.640
Florida voters reject ballot measure legalizing recreational marijuana use.
00:29:03.520
I did not – so the pro-drug people spent more money in Florida on this, I think, more than any ballot measure in the history of Florida.
00:29:11.760
And in general, voters tend to sign off on legalizing weed.
00:29:20.280
I do think that there is this – there are these patterns in public life.
00:29:25.840
There are backlashes to certain – the pendulum swings.
00:29:32.140
It swings hard and it swings hard and then it kind of – there's some stasis in the middle.
00:29:35.700
And I think we've experienced too much of a swing too fast dramatically to the left on this issue and many other issues.
00:29:44.820
And you're about to see a serious backlash to that.
00:29:48.060
I'd like to see us go full Singapore on the question.
00:29:52.920
And I smoked weed every day of my childhood, so I was always for marijuana.
00:29:57.100
But watching what it's doing to young boys right now, I feel like people need to go to prison right away.
00:30:07.680
By the way, if you're around, 18-year-old boy, college freshman, you know, how many people do you know who've been wrecked by dab pens?
00:30:22.440
Sorry, this is something I'm fixated on as an anti-drug person.
00:30:27.200
But I really think the Saudis get it right on the undrugged policy.
00:30:31.660
Well, Trump has talked a lot about, you know, death penalty for drug kingpins and that kind of thing.
00:30:37.880
Yeah, I mean, it's – okay, so Trump wins Florida by double digits.
00:30:44.080
Again, probably not shocking, but if you take three steps back, pretty big change from a few years ago.
00:30:50.100
Yeah, and the thing that I also think about there is you're seeing people vote with their feet.
00:30:57.200
They're leaving – and the concern has been these people are going to leave California, move to Texas and Florida, and they're going to vote like they still live in California.
00:31:05.680
And this is suggesting that people are not just leaving the places the left has decimated, that they are leaving the left.
00:31:15.420
Well, it feels like there, to use an overused phrase, there has been a big vibe shift.
00:31:21.360
In that I notice it everywhere I go, just from the number of people who scream at me at airports, which is like down to almost zero.
00:31:28.440
Well, it's almost no screaming at airports now, which is kind of crazy.
00:31:32.100
I was at Logan Airport this morning early, waiting to be screamed at, not one screamer.
00:31:40.520
I'd had two Dunkin' Donuts large coffees because I was ready.
00:31:44.640
No, just a nice nurse came up and thanked me for my service.
00:31:47.580
I said, I work in television, not really service, but thank you.
00:31:50.220
But I do feel like Elon getting involved is a big, big, big, big factor.
00:31:58.880
One thing that I have noticed in the last, I mean, I haven't been doing this a long time.
00:32:02.860
I really, 2016 election cycle is the first time I was involved in a presidential, at the presidential level, even remotely close to that.
00:32:09.280
And the thing that I have noticed, and it's specific to Trump, but it's also, I think, even broader than Trump, is the stigma that was attached to Trump personally.
00:32:24.840
And in fact, being a conservative is now a full-on countercultural movement because the left is, if you want to be a rebel now, you're a conservative.
00:32:35.960
If you want to be a part of the establishment and you want things to stay the same and you want to be one of these elite, you know, whatever, then you're a leftist.
00:32:43.160
If you're on a college campus right now, which used to be like the bastion of the left is a college campus.
00:32:48.120
And granted, still in our elite universities, you know, some of them are.
00:32:52.000
If you go to most college campuses around the country right now, they are voting for Donald Trump.
00:32:57.060
They've got the red MAGA hat on, boys and girls alike.
00:33:02.040
And Elon, I think, is a huge part of that because he exists in a similar way to Trump outside of politics in the cultural zeitgeist in a way that politicians couldn't even imagine.
00:33:14.940
And when a guy like that says, this is screwed up and I'm for the guy that they're trying to kill, I think that that's moved votes in a really meaningful way.
00:33:26.520
I even see it in my pickup basketball games in my hometown in Birmingham, Alabama.
00:33:37.500
And now I walk in, literally, I walk in, they have ordered the Trump shoes and would like for me to get DJT to sign them for them.
00:33:47.160
And this has all happened in the last couple of years.
00:33:57.020
And I never really believe Republicans are always telling, we're going to win the black folks.
00:34:01.980
But I have no, just in my life, just any, every black guy knows, like, not against Trump, kind of.
00:34:10.120
Well, it's now, you know, you don't want to be stereotypical about people, but if you look out about across a mass of people and you think, you can't have, you know, like, I wonder if that person votes for this person or that person or whatever.
00:34:21.440
Now, if you see a middle-aged, unattractive white woman, they probably voted for the Democrat.
00:34:32.320
And if you see a young black male who has been a historic constituency of the Democrat Party, that's a Republican now.
00:34:42.620
If you saw a working class white voter in a trailer park, historically, they would say the Republicans are the party of Wall Street and they don't care about me and they probably voted for Democrats.
00:34:59.440
That's, you know, in working class white America where J.D. Vance grew up.
00:35:04.820
J.D. Vance is a picture of the shift in the Republican Party.
00:35:09.220
It's like an avatar for the shift that is happening in real time right before us.
00:35:15.080
And it's – and I think it is a huge – it's a great thing for our party.
00:35:22.120
But the – well, of course, I couldn't agree more.
00:35:25.900
And I think Trump has forced the party to pay attention to its own voters in a way that Mitch McConnell was never going to do.
00:35:32.620
One downside is, though, that the money is with the Democrats.
00:35:35.960
75% of the nation's wealth is held by Biden voters.
00:35:45.320
Kamala Harris, one of your finance guys told me today spent three times what the Trump campaign was.
00:35:51.820
It was three to one, all in, independent expenditures included.
00:36:02.220
Like, don't we have to rethink – I mean, that just seems like the biggest story ever told in politics.
00:36:07.000
There are so many things about Trump that if you try to – if you try to think about someone not him doing them, it is hard to imagine because of the larger-than-life personalities.
00:36:19.420
That were he not that, he would not have been able to break the machine the way that he has.
00:36:25.520
But I think because he has broken the machine, it has shown a new way.
00:36:30.120
It has shown a new path, a different way of doing things where you don't have to play by the same rules.
00:36:35.500
And, you know, for better or worse, this is a communications game, right?
00:36:42.820
Anybody who's going to try to replicate what he has done and beat that system is going to have to be an incredible communicator.
00:36:48.160
But they're going to have to be able to be willing to do it in a way that is not what is – so, like, let's think about the difference between Mitt Romney and Donald Trump.
00:36:56.700
But one of them, just practically speaking as a campaigner, one of them tried desperately to do no harm.
00:37:06.480
Whatever I do, oh, my gosh, I just don't want to make any mistakes.
00:37:09.860
The other said, I might make 10 mistakes today, but I'm going to say what I actually think.
00:37:17.480
And I'm going to bet that there are enough people out there that are going to say, I like the authenticity, that it's actually okay if I disagreed with two of the 10 things that he said because I knew he actually meant it, as opposed to the politician who tried to do no harm and was a total fraud.
00:37:34.000
That's the ultimate takeaway from Trump is authenticity is the currency now.
00:37:38.760
So, if he – last question, and you're the person to answer it since you worked in government at a high level in some of the more complicated parts of government, I think it's fair to say.
00:37:49.580
Trump gets elected tonight, let's say, inaugurated January 20th.
00:37:58.300
I mean, every signal they've sent that I've picked up is we won't allow this.
00:38:10.420
It's hard to imagine it not being that way, certainly in the parts of the government that you're talking about.
00:38:16.800
You're talking about the meaningful parts, you know, the more secretive, the more significant parts, not the ag department.
00:38:25.040
I think it's going to ultimately come down to when Donald Trump wins tonight, which I fully believe that he will, the people that he chooses to go in and represent his interest and the country's interest in those places are going to have to have the biggest stones of anybody who's ever walked into those places before.
00:38:43.520
And not be captured by the building, whatever the building may be.
00:38:51.620
A lot of people go in there with the best of intentions.
00:38:53.740
And then you realize how easy it is to just be like, you know what?
00:39:00.120
And it's actually just better if, like, let's just – if I walk out of here the day that I leave and it's the same as the day I came, that's not the worst thing.
00:39:12.420
The agency head's constituency becomes the employees of the agency.
00:39:22.100
Like, we don't want to besmirch the reputation of whatever stupid agency he's running, right?
00:39:28.340
Like, how do you find people who are ballsy enough to go against that very, very natural trend?
00:39:35.640
Well, I think the good news is we now have a little bit of a track record.
00:39:38.500
In 2016, you know, we didn't know what certain people are going to do.
00:39:45.020
The other thing I think that we have learned is often making a change that is – let's call it a 75% change – produces the same backlash as trying to do a 10% change.
00:39:57.020
That's exactly – and so why are we going to be incremental about some of these things?
00:40:01.200
They're going to come for our throats no matter what on this stuff.
00:40:05.020
Well, at least we could do is, like, make it a meaningful change and make it worth it.
00:40:08.440
And I think that's the mindset that we've got to have if we get the opportunity.
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So one of the big things I think that's different about this run, Trump's third run for national office,
00:43:06.340
Of course, there in some sense always has been.
00:43:07.960
There have been a lot of disaffected voters who felt they're not being represented by their leaders who clustered around Donald Trump.
00:43:14.220
But there weren't a lot of, really, to be blunt, successful people from, say, business around Donald Trump.
00:43:21.700
Almost all of them are too vested in the current system to join him publicly.
00:43:26.620
And that has just changed in a huge way, most famously with Elon Musk.
00:43:31.500
But I would say right behind him is his friend who got there first, David Sachs, who joins me now.
00:43:41.720
So you have been a pretty, and I should say David Sachs is like a huge figure in tech world on the West Coast, San Francisco, South Bay.
00:43:50.460
And you've been a pretty consistent voice for conservatism, well, since you were at Stanford, I think.
00:43:58.100
But you have, I think you were the first person at your level in your world to come out and say, I'm voting for Donald Trump, and here's why.
00:44:11.280
Well, I guess, you know, one of the things that I did starting a few years ago was I started doing this podcast, you know, the all-in podcast.
00:44:20.280
We started doing it pretty much at the beginning of COVID, I guess, in early 2020, just me and a few friends from the tech world, you know, fellow investors.
00:44:32.240
And when you do a podcast like that, you just kind of have to say what you think.
00:44:37.920
First of all, I want to say, I didn't get his significance until he went on it.
00:44:46.120
But if you want to reach, you know, successful people, you do the all-in podcast, I learned.
00:44:59.060
It was just, you know, we were all kind of locked in our houses at the beginning of COVID.
00:45:12.320
You know, a couple of my friends, we, you know, we all play poker together.
00:45:15.400
And the original idea was it'd be kind of fun if we were just to, like, have cameras recording us playing poker.
00:45:22.160
But we just started, you know, recording our conversations over Zoom and putting them out.
00:45:26.500
And then the thing kind of caught fire and became a little bit of a sensation.
00:45:33.960
Like, you were speaking to an audience that was not reached by Trump, basically.
00:45:38.140
I sense a lot of your audience had, like, heard of Trump.
00:45:43.900
But they're kind of absorbed in their business.
00:45:46.420
Yeah, no, it's first and foremost, it's a podcast about business, markets, technology, and politics.
00:45:52.400
But really, it's about whatever the big issues are that week.
00:45:55.480
You're probably, like, the first person your audience respects they'd ever heard endorse Trump.
00:46:02.380
I think, yeah, I was a gateway drug for a lot of people.
00:46:07.900
So we're just looking at these Virginia numbers.
00:46:11.040
Virginia is basically a Democratic state, thanks to the federal government, thanks to Northern Virginia, which is a wasteland, I should say, with a Republican governor.
00:46:20.560
And yet, Trump is tied, as of right now, with 41% in Virginia.
00:46:37.240
Yeah, I think Virginia was a plus-10 state for Biden, wasn't it?
00:46:42.120
And then, you know, I remember that number because when Youngkin won the state, it was such a big, you know, upset that he could overcome, you know, what had been a 10-point deficit.
00:46:51.540
Look, if Trump is running even-ish in Virginia, that's great.
00:47:00.560
I mean, that's one of those states where, you know, its components have nothing in common with each other.
00:47:05.280
Southern Virginia is nothing in common with Central Virginia, or certainly Northern Virginia, nothing in common with Southwest Virginia, et cetera.
00:47:13.060
So, you come out for Trump, and you just basically say, I'm for Trump.
00:47:16.800
And you say that to a bunch of people who, I suspect, think they hate Trump.
00:47:23.440
Well, I think that it hasn't been as negative as it was, I think, in 2016 or 2020.
00:47:30.980
I think that, in fairness, there were a couple other folks who were trailblazers going back to 2016.
00:47:37.720
I mean, Peter Thiel, in particular, really was kind of far out there when he endorsed it.
00:47:46.000
And I think he took a lot of slings and arrows for that.
00:47:48.580
I think by the time that I did it, yeah, I probably was one of the first people this cycle to do it.
00:47:54.560
But a lot of people ended up kind of following, you know, and ended up, you know, at one point, I tweeted a list of kind of major figures in the tech industry who had endorsed Trump.
00:48:08.740
So, there was a lot of people who came on board.
00:48:10.560
And then, obviously, Elon coming on board was a huge deal.
00:48:15.560
Yeah, I think, look, I think that one of the reasons why so many people have come on board is because the last four years have just been so bad.
00:48:26.220
I mean, Biden and the Democrats came into office promising a return to normalcy.
00:48:39.940
They gave us trillions of reckless spending, you know, and they wanted more.
00:48:46.600
Remember, Build Back Better was originally supposed to be something like $6 trillion.
00:48:50.700
Eventually, they got it, I think, $750 billion plus all the other trillions, the Inflation Reduction Act and all the rest.
00:48:59.440
We had the lawfare and the censorship, I think, alienated a lot of people in our world.
00:49:06.600
And, you know, because this is so fundamentally un-American to prosecute your political opponents.
00:49:13.540
I think this is the thing that kind of made me want to kind of go all in.
00:49:18.420
Well, I mean, yeah, I was conservative before, and I would have supported Trump or whoever the Republican candidate would have been.
00:49:23.540
But it made me want to do so much more to see that Trump was getting prosecuted.
00:49:37.580
And then, you know, and then they started going down the line.
00:49:42.720
They're prosecuting his companies now, or the government's got all sorts of investigations into his companies, mainly because he restored Twitter X to being a free speech platform.
00:49:54.920
So, political retaliation is just now part of their playbook.
00:49:58.540
And if you let them get away with it, if they win this election, they're going to keep going with that.
00:50:04.320
The only way they stop is if they lose, and then they have to reconsider whether these tactics are alienating people.
00:50:09.940
But if they get away with it, they're like, hmm, okay, this seems to be working.
00:50:17.500
Like, they don't believe in sportsmanship or fair play.
00:50:20.140
And so, once they start winning, they get blood on the tongue, and it makes them more vicious.
00:50:29.240
I know you think about this a lot since you're in the tech world, but, like, can they, social media, if Trump wins, it'll be because of social media, new media.
00:50:36.960
You know, doing Rogan's endorsement is more significant than any other endorsement other than Elon's, I would say.
00:50:43.480
Can they allow social media to stay open in the way that they are particularly X to stay open?
00:50:49.340
Well, it's, it is a giant loophole in their control of the legacy of media.
00:50:57.100
And it's such a big loophole that it kind of threatens that whole, like, superstructure that has been created or has been revealed.
00:51:04.740
I think one of the things that's been most interesting about the last, I don't know, let's call it eight years, has been that, you know, initially when Trump first won, it was because of issues.
00:51:15.340
You know, it was, it was, you know, kind of, you could call it the old Papu-Cannon issues.
00:51:24.360
And Trump sort of pulled that sword out of the stone and used it to slay the Bush family dynasty and then the Clinton family dynasty.
00:51:32.820
And if Washington had just taken the note, if they just said, okay, we need to make an adjustment here in our policies, then the whole country would have been different.
00:51:43.620
They said, we have to stop this no matter what, even though what did Trump really want it to do?
00:51:48.020
He just wanted a wall and he wanted to pull our troops out of wars we were losing anyway.
00:51:52.060
But that was just totally unacceptable to them.
00:51:54.020
And they reacted with lawfare, with hoaxes, the Russiagate hoax, the scandemic.
00:51:59.800
They, and it was a, it was a collaboration of not just the Democratic Party, it was the Democrats and the whole legacy media running, you know, the Russiagate hoax and the administrative state and the security state.
00:52:13.700
So, you know, what I think happened is that the opposition to Trump revealed itself to be something much greater than just, you know, a candidate.
00:52:23.640
It's kind of like, you know, to, you talked about in one of your speeches how this was like the hero's journey.
00:52:30.640
I mean, act one was sort of him, you know, winning the presidency.
00:52:36.680
And it revealed something about our government, that our government is not just the, you know, it's not just Trump versus Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
00:52:46.600
It's about this larger, they're really just a avatar for this larger superstructure, this marriage of sort of the, of government, the permanent government, the administrative state, the legacy media, the Democratic Party,
00:53:04.320
and then all of their various, you know, affiliates, whether it's, you know, the big tech platforms that are engaged in censorship or the Hollywood celebrities who are always endorsing.
00:53:16.240
So we kind of learned that we're up, I think we learned something about the nature of our government that, that we didn't know before.
00:53:23.980
I think, and this is what I think is so important about this election is it's not just about Trump versus Kamala Harris who's going to be the president.
00:53:33.480
I mean, are we basically ruled by these, these entities, these corrupt entities who are pretending to be a fair media or a neutral administrative state, but really are in cahoots together to, they're kind of, they're kind of a ruling class or ruling party that is, it's really the enemy of democracy.
00:54:00.700
I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's not, they claim to be democracy, but they're, they're kind of the enemy of it.
00:54:07.400
Elon tweeted a really funny meme today where there was, someone took a clip of all the legacy media types talking about the threat to democracy and had AI replace the word democracy with bureaucracy.
00:54:26.380
If Kamala Harris can claim to represent joy, a woman who kissed her own husband with a mask on, then the Democratic Party's about democracy.
00:54:36.820
David Sachs, I think if Trump wins, it'll be in part due to you and your bravery.
00:54:49.240
So, uh, among the many members of this new coalition, um, sort of look ahead, you know, who's going to run the Republican Party, uh, in 10 years, uh, is someone else from completely outside of politics who I don't think had any plans on getting into politics.
00:55:11.580
Um, and who joins us now, Vivek Ramaswamy, who's really, you almost never see, this is not flattery, it's real.
00:55:17.880
You almost never see anyone run for president, lose, and become enhanced.
00:55:22.460
It's like everybody who runs, you know, Jeb Bush, who was widely regarded as a really smart guy until he ran for president.
00:55:30.780
Um, everybody who runs and loses, Ron DeSantis, poor Ron DeSantis, not attacking him, but he was diminished.
00:55:38.120
I'm not quite sure how you did that, but it was amazing.
00:55:42.380
I also hope that, uh, I'm not running the Republican Party 10 years from now because our country's in great shape in about four years, maybe in about like one year.
00:55:48.820
And, uh, and we can all find other productive things to do beyond this, this world of politics.
00:55:53.520
But that's, I think, um, you know, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but it's feeling pretty darn good.
00:55:58.940
And I, and I hate to turn to, well, I guess now that I no longer work for a TV network, I can turn to whatever I want.
00:56:06.700
But in the absence of real numbers, let's dive into the fake numbers for a moment, if you don't mind.
00:56:15.620
I think betting odds are a better place to look.
00:56:20.480
Uh, we are now on the question of who will win the election in Wisconsin for president.
00:56:26.360
We are Donald Trump, 56, Carmela Harris, Kamala Harris, 44.
00:56:37.680
It was like, it was like, that was as of like 10 minutes ago or something.
00:56:43.460
So, um, you think he's got a shot at Wisconsin?
00:56:47.880
And I think we'll know Wisconsin probably before Pennsylvania based on how long they're actually
00:56:54.240
Cause is it because Pennsylvania is such a long state?
00:56:56.820
I don't know that that doesn't seem like a very satisfying explanation.
00:57:04.600
We were able to catch rockets falling out of outer space, returning to earth, but we
00:57:07.780
can't count some votes that are submitted in the same rates that we did 40 years ago.
00:57:11.720
Actually, it's such an insult to the third world.
00:57:16.380
You know, actually for all the stuff about Puerto Rico recently, I went to Puerto Rico.
00:57:28.140
And they actually make you like that glass of water.
00:57:31.960
You make sure that they check it like an amusement park to make sure you don't vote at multiple
00:57:40.220
You know, I think that I think that we can learn something from Puerto Rico and how they
00:57:44.100
And I think that we are the ones actually doing it.
00:57:46.200
If a country that can't produce reliable electricity can have free and fair elections, then I think
00:57:53.460
Well, I think that we're going the other direction.
00:57:55.180
They're trying to also make sure that we're not also able to put electricity here.
00:57:59.180
It's just messing up our elections is the first step to getting to also not running our
00:58:02.480
electricity by shutting down our coal mines and not fracking for natural gas.
00:58:05.260
But we're maybe about seven hours from from changing that for the country.
00:58:09.120
So why would Barack Obama and I'm sorry to be cynical, but I spent, you know, all eight
00:58:14.220
years of his presidency in the United States watching carefully.
00:58:17.720
Why would he tweet out like it's it's a great thing that it's going to take days to find
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Don't share things before checking your sources.
00:58:30.900
I'm trying not to use the effort on on YouTube.
00:58:33.180
But I'm like, how dare you, Barack Obama, you liar, lecture me about accuracy and then
00:58:45.020
So I think it's clear why this is coming out today.
00:58:47.300
So Obama is telling us like it's going to take forever to you know, we may have leaks
00:58:56.180
If Kamala actually was surging, this tweet would not have gone out.
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They don't want to look like fools at the end of this.
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If it goes longer, there's some probability that things could change in their direction.
00:59:08.580
So, yeah, I mean, I think he's he's tweeting according to his incentives.
00:59:18.500
But have you ever seen an election go into overtime and the Republican win?
00:59:34.780
It certainly feels to me on our way to get there.
00:59:39.900
Chris Wallace is one of the most loathsome women in television.
00:59:46.960
CNN host Chris Wallace argues Kamala Harris would win would be, quote, a miracle given exit
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Well, I don't think a miracle is coming for her tonight.
00:59:58.420
And, you know, I mean, look, I think that one of the risks I mean, I feel I feel really
01:00:03.740
And hopefully wake up tomorrow morning, maybe even.
01:00:05.620
And, you know, we know that Donald Trump's the next president.
01:00:09.380
And so if you look at just every way this machine, we just traced the last year.
01:00:19.460
Then extrajudicial attempts to remove him from the ballot.
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So they've tried every trick and that hasn't worked.
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It looks like I don't want to counter chickens here, but resoundingly, what's the next remaining
01:00:43.140
And so I think that in some ways, this idea and I think the little bit of the feigned
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retreat, the PSYOP self-consciously and all of this, even if we're not aware of it,
01:00:52.120
is that somehow November 5th is like, yes, then we've done it.
01:00:55.860
Or November 6th, we wake up next tomorrow morning.
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And I think the real fight in some ways either begins or continues.
01:01:05.000
And so that's kind of, I think, the check that I want on all this.
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Can I ask you a personal question since, you know, we're on the internet, we can say whatever
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How did you wind up, you and Trump have such an easy relationship.
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But you don't do the ass kissy thing that a lot of people do.
01:01:24.640
Well, OK, but I mean, I watch like Mike Pompeo is like giving Trump a tongue bath every time.
01:01:30.380
Oh, Donald Trump, your hands are so large or whatever.
01:01:32.560
There's just like repulsive and it's transactional and false, obviously, as Mike Pompeo is.
01:01:44.720
Get along with the guy you ran against, I guess.
01:01:46.740
I mean, I think one of the things that I committed myself to in the race is the easy thing to
01:01:50.960
do would have been to slam Donald Trump for something that he said that you disagreed
01:01:54.620
And for me, he actually was objectively the best president of the 21st century.
01:01:58.860
And people said, how could you run against him and say that?
01:02:00.580
Well, first of all, like that's like the easiest thing you could possibly say.
01:02:03.280
You got George Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
01:02:07.320
But it's like it's like the most obvious statement I could have made.
01:02:09.560
And people said, oh, is he running as some type of, you know, Trump allies in the race?
01:02:14.040
So to the contrary, I think we started from a good place.
01:02:20.040
Yeah, but but that understates actually how good of a job he did.
01:02:25.100
And I think it's our candor that allowed us to build a pretty good friendship afterwards
01:02:29.240
I've gotten I knew him for a while, but we've only gotten to know each other really well
01:02:37.400
And I think that Donald Trump actually appreciates having people around him.
01:02:41.860
And I respect him more because of that, because that's not the media narrative that you get
01:02:45.820
But what I've seen is he's somebody who wants to be challenged.
01:02:47.940
He likes to actually, you know, when he asks you for a question and you're just giving
01:02:50.920
some sort of nodding response, that's not helping anybody versus sharing what your actual
01:02:56.460
Now, you know, he'll he'll he'll bust my ball sometimes for he'll say, talk, you talk
01:03:03.660
And, you know, I think that that's part of what's made us have a no, I think that's
01:03:08.420
I think it's really insightful what you just said.
01:03:09.960
Trump does love the butt kissers, but he likes the people who don't bust butt kiss even
01:03:20.540
So when do you think I'm sorry to ask you about politics, but you ran.
01:03:27.500
You know, I mean, so, hey, I should tell you, there's a lot of things that I think I
01:03:31.040
Horse race politics stuff is absolutely not it.
01:03:33.240
But I think probably tomorrow morning, I think Wisconsin, we know by tomorrow morning.
01:03:36.780
So I think basically it'll go Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin.
01:03:46.660
Credit to a lot of Elon and Scott Preston and a lot of people who have laid a lot of
01:03:50.760
Not necessarily the traditional party machinery, but the outside of party machinery that's
01:03:56.720
I mean, if you look at look at Arizona, I'll give a lot of credit to Turning Point.
01:03:59.220
I think they've done a really good job out there.
01:04:02.500
The analytics were really I mean, just like as like a business person looking into the
01:04:08.420
And to some extent in Wisconsin, too, I'll give Turning Point a lot of credit for those
01:04:13.620
But who cares about who gets the credit for what?
01:04:16.500
No, it doesn't matter because it's not the party that did it.
01:04:21.000
It's Charlie Kirk, who's like 30 and doesn't have a college degree.
01:04:33.540
So if the biggest players in all of this, you had no background in politics at all.
01:04:43.620
I mean, these are just people like Donald Trump himself.
01:04:48.420
Do you think the Republican Party has permanently changed?
01:04:53.940
I think that's what makes this win even more exciting is that the Republican Party, to use a Kamala-ism, we ain't going back.
01:04:59.780
You know, I think that that's that's true here.
01:05:02.080
And that will be one of the parts of this victory where.
01:05:10.820
I was on the stage with a lot of people who were of an old garden variety stuffed suit Republican mold from the past.
01:05:23.220
I think the Republican Party of the future is going to be defined by people coming in from the outside who have a fresh perspective, who are able to speak hard truths to Democrats, but also to yesterday's Republicans as well.
01:05:35.120
And we become, I hope, this party of just practiced evolution.
01:05:39.120
We're just repeatedly evolving in a way that it doesn't become stultified, doesn't just become tied up to dogmas.
01:05:47.120
And this is something I've actually even, not to get too philosophical, but I don't want to see the America First movement do what the neocon movement did for 20 years, which is.
01:05:56.520
But we're the party of the working class to some guy who, like, 10 years ago was saying something else, but doesn't know why he's saying it today.
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I don't want people saying things out of habit.
01:06:05.580
Like, we want people who understand why they're saying them.
01:06:07.940
And, you know, people like Elon and people like Bobby Kennedy, who I respect, and JD is an outsider.
01:06:14.360
I think that it's going to take people coming from the outside who are thinking people, who, by the way, all of us, who I just named, don't agree with each other on 100% of issues.
01:06:23.580
But that, I think, is going to be the character of the new Republican Party.
01:06:28.180
And this really is going to, and this is a concern for me, wreck Mitch McConnell's retirement party, I think.
01:06:36.500
I just wasn't around in politics enough to know enough about that legacy to even care about it.
01:06:41.320
So let me just bottom line it by saying, that's a good thing.
01:06:47.240
Vivek, I think we're going to have a long conversation later this week.
01:06:50.760
We're going to know, I really am too, about what comes next.
01:06:55.480
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No one has asked for less credit than our next guest, Donald Trump Jr.
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So I imagine I matched that, maybe did a little bit more this time around,
01:11:03.020
because that was like peak COVID and no one was willing to do stuff.
01:11:05.660
So I can't tell if I did more or if I did a little less,
01:11:11.520
But no, it feels really good right now, Tucker.
01:11:14.420
I mean, I died two days ago, but, you know, it's just...
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It's caffeine, nicotine, testosterone, and adrenaline.
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I don't have a pulse or a heart rate, you know, it's fun.
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I'm sorry, I've asked every person the same stupid question,
01:11:36.260
but it is election night, so I can't control my...
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I feel this is by far, you know, the most comfortable I've been on election.
01:11:49.280
I sort of function like I'm always three points behind,
01:11:51.200
whether I'm 10 points behind or whether I'm 10 points ahead.
01:11:55.980
When I see, you know, the rural vote, you know, turning up.
01:12:10.100
Yeah, we lost it by 30 in 16, and we won it by 10.
01:12:20.020
Those are people who came from Cuba and Venezuela who are like,
01:12:23.900
I don't know if that translates, you know, to the Hispanic population
01:12:27.640
But, you know, something's definitely going on.
01:12:31.380
where we can actually have reasonable and fair elections,
01:12:37.520
You know, Florida, North Carolina, you know, we can do really well.
01:12:43.460
And so it's going to come down to, you know, one of the blue walls.
01:12:47.340
I mean, do you think it's fair to say that you're going to do better
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There's a reason the other side doesn't want these things.
01:13:00.160
It's to preserve their ability to cheat more easily.
01:13:10.080
I mean, you know, not exactly preserving democracy,
01:13:12.320
but, you know, that's always been a soundbite anyway, right?
01:13:16.380
So at what point will you know the outcome, do you think?
01:13:28.160
What I don't want to do is give them an excuse to say,
01:13:35.040
a trailer full of ballots that are only filled in for the president
01:13:37.320
because, you know, that's all they had time to fill in
01:13:39.420
in some warehouse, you know, outside of the district.
01:13:42.980
But like I said, I mean, it's by far the best I've ever felt going in.
01:14:08.100
You know, honestly, the pivotal moments of the thing.
01:14:10.340
The craziest thing I've ever, oh, it takes Ohio.
01:14:13.240
I mean, now I'll be curious to see what that is.
01:14:16.180
the reality is I want to also make sure we bring,
01:14:17.840
you know, in Ohio, Bernie Marino over the finish line there
01:14:26.860
is the biggest fraud in the United States Senate
01:14:31.000
Actually, it's probably John Tester in Montana.
01:14:40.380
I'm like, well, no, you voted to impeach him twice.
01:14:45.320
But, you know, they understand where these people are.
01:15:06.740
and then let in 15 million people into the country.
01:16:33.140
and him and I sort of got along pretty quickly.
01:31:12.800
It's like people want to get invited back on the show.
01:31:18.560
with already less than you're even hoping to get.
01:31:37.060
politics has not been like an upside business for us.
01:31:51.160
It's not like now it reverts back to Mitt Romney
01:32:00.280
seeing a Vivek and seeing some of these other guys
01:32:04.880
just absolutely dismantle that establishment class
01:32:14.140
I feel personally vindicated because I've told you
01:32:23.780
and actually understands politics on a gut level
01:32:36.540
And I think now it's very obvious that it's true.
01:33:04.620
like I've taken per capita more selfies with like black men than,
01:33:48.600
she's going to make up some gains in Washington,
01:33:51.360
I'm thinking he's going to do pretty well in Montana,
01:34:02.600
That's the Harry Reid machine and everything like that.
01:34:14.080
It's going to be a little harder to steal it at this point,
01:34:32.600
it doesn't mean they're going to catch everything,
01:34:36.480
like you can just print some ballots and fill them out and make up the
01:34:48.000
they're a little bit more proactive to get ahead of these things,
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it feels good that we actually have people on the ground.
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but it is maybe even as closely being watched by the rest of the world for whom a lot hangs in the balance.
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Nigel Farage is the head of the UK Reform Party.
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with Donald Trump forever because Brexit happened just as Trump's candidacy was taking off.
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So I'm not going to ask you to predict electoral totals in a system that a country you don't live in,
01:37:19.700
is it an overstatement to say that the rest of the world is watching this really,
01:37:32.480
It's about what signal gets sent to dictators all over the world who are launching wars,
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whether we talk potentially what might happen with China,
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the most stunning achievement of the Trump administration.
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The Biden withdrawal of the last 3,000 American troops from Afghanistan.
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not been a single American soldier killed for the previous 18 months.
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leaves behind $85 billion worth of prime American military equipment.
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So if you think how much has gone wrong in the world,
01:38:40.080
how much more dangerous the world is now than it was four years ago,
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Tony Blinken and Biden to the extent he's been involved,
01:38:48.280
but the entire team have been spreaders of global chaos to an extent.
01:38:57.880
But I know that it is true is that both the Arabs and the Israelis seem to be
01:39:07.680
I didn't even know what that means other than why would the Arabs and the
01:39:14.040
So certainly the public opinion polling in Israel is like overwhelming for
01:39:21.960
there's a lot of people are all rooting for Trump.
01:39:32.960
what we're seeing tonight with the Trump vote is a new coalition emerging in
01:39:45.500
I started working for American companies in 1982.
01:39:51.400
So what was interesting was to see when he was in Michigan,
01:39:55.920
imams coming up on the stage with Trump and people think how,
01:40:00.480
because of course that many people in the Muslim religion are naturally quite
01:40:08.700
And then the Hasidic community in New York is out for Trump.
01:40:33.660
you have rural whites from North Georgia in the mountains,
01:40:53.240
and I'm getting this on my side of the pond as well,
01:41:08.880
It links into wanting to sort of succeed in the world.
01:41:13.020
this new coalition that has formed over the course of these last few months here,
01:41:24.240
I'm still feeling very bullish about the outcome after this,
01:41:29.000
there is a chance to build something that could last.
01:41:37.980
and I understand how the Democrats sort of box themselves in with Kamala Harris.
01:41:41.220
I don't think that they would have chosen her if they'd had a right,
01:41:46.920
But the idea that Kamala Harris is like the most impressive person in a country,
01:41:50.900
350 million people to lead the most powerful country.
01:41:54.260
The lies of the media are telling us they seem too preposterous,
01:42:29.220
How can they have sunk to the depths of having a man like this leading them and at the same time making the whole world a more dangerous place?
01:42:44.460
the whole thing's been an embarrassment really,
01:42:50.860
there's been a coalition of leadership as well.
01:42:53.620
clearly Donald Trump is way head and shoulders above everybody else.
01:43:14.100
And this is all part of this remarkable coalition that's formed.
01:43:23.840
A big part of that coalition is the most powerful man,
01:43:28.980
one of the most powerful people in American culture.
01:43:41.980
I'm sure coming just from seeing Trump right now.
01:43:54.700
this is the betting markets have him in Nevada at 61%,
01:44:04.180
I would have to say when the odds makers are saying you're going to win,
01:44:10.380
it's going to come down to probably Pennsylvania.
01:44:15.560
but it looks like he's going to win a couple of States that you don't expect to
01:44:29.380
this is the most invested thing I've been in since.
01:44:40.960
You're one of the very first people in your world to do that.
01:44:49.300
No one in business makes political endorsements of Donald Trump.
01:44:51.680
Cause it's like the cost is can be really how you did it anyway.
01:44:55.580
I've been friends with the guy for a very long time.
01:45:02.340
it's fascinating to see when the machine comes after you,
01:45:16.780
And I truly believe he's the only human being that I know of that could
01:45:24.280
And to actually be here tonight in the election,
01:45:41.660
He's been going to all these different rallies.
01:45:46.820
most resilient human beings that I've ever met in my life.
01:45:53.440
we both have the privilege of knowing him personally.
01:46:11.940
You're one of the very first people in your world to endorse Trump.
01:46:19.840
So I don't post a political stuff ever right around the election.
01:46:39.720
just literally posting hardcore political Trump stuff.
01:46:49.700
So now it's what we're completely bulletproof from that kind of stuff.
01:47:17.400
We honored every contract from fighter contracts to sponsorships,
01:47:36.300
I brought all my employees into a big room and said,
01:47:43.540
don't feel safe and feel like you want to go home,
01:47:56.120
and that was when he was sitting in office and he actually,
01:48:15.240
If I want to support somebody and vote for him and,
01:48:22.760
And if you don't like the fact that I support him and I could care less.
01:48:31.280
You're living like it's the country you grew up in.
01:48:39.260
all these people that are afraid to come out everywhere.
01:48:43.860
how many altercations I've had because I support Trump zero.
01:48:51.780
Thank you for what you're doing for our country.
01:48:57.040
that's what happens to me when I go out in public.
01:49:18.780
how do you feel about what's going to happen in that state?
01:49:24.160
feeling in Vegas is feels like there's a lot of support for Trump there.
01:49:42.960
here's Glenn Greenwald again for the first time all night.
01:49:45.120
The New York times needle no longer has the election as a toss up.
01:49:48.820
Now they're saying Trump has a 65% likelihood to win the election.
01:49:56.620
the New York times is probably not putting a thumb on the scale for Trump here.
01:50:23.980
I'm actually pissed at myself that I didn't bet after the debate.
01:50:58.160
so because I've talked to you a lot about your health regimen,
01:51:11.800
I know I'm going to stop eating shit food as soon as this is over,
01:51:22.480
can I say I was the other night we were somewhere MSG,
01:51:29.340
and there's like Milky Ways and like all the stuff he likes,
01:52:19.780
How does this guy on Big Macs and Milky Ways stay up for 48 hours
01:52:47.460
And then somebody will bring him over a Coke and he'll drink Coke.
01:52:58.140
And we're friends and I've been around him a long time and a lot.
01:53:14.760
I'm sitting with him right now at dinner and we're talking about the
01:53:20.980
And God knows how much sleep he had before the 48.
01:53:44.180
now the room's packed and everybody wants to get to him.
01:53:48.200
And they got the food at the other end of the room.
01:54:02.480
He wants to get up and he wants to walk across the room,
01:54:09.580
Then we walk all the way around back to the thing.
01:54:26.980
And I'm quoting the Coca-Cola company is not happy with me.
01:54:41.240
doesn't this call into question everything you thought you knew about the human body?
01:54:49.540
I was doing the same thing minus the Coca-Cola.
01:55:05.920
I will send him a text at 10 o'clock in Las Vegas so that he will get the text in the morning when he wakes up.
01:55:25.840
you are the only one I will answer FaceTime for.
01:55:31.300
I saw Kid Rock doing it at dinner the other night.
01:55:43.040
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A lot of the most fervent supporters of Trump and a lot of the smartest and most thoughtful supporters of Trump
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are people who didn't originally support Trump and they didn't change their minds for reasons of expedience.
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They really thought through what Trump was about and people who've been forced to think through their views tend to have much deeper and more durable views.
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has wound up becoming one of Trump's great champions and allies and most articulate allies in the U.S. Senate.
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I feel so low asking all these dumb political questions,
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but you've run a lot of races and you've won them all.
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And I think it could easily end up being an electoral landslide.
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people are tired of the policies that have gotten us to where we are.
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cannot understand how Kamala Harris has gotten away with distancing herself from her own policies.
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She can't identify a single piece of daylight between her and Joe Biden.
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And so I think that's coming back to haunt her.
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And I think Trump's going to finish very strongly tonight.
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The fact that Trump is leading among young people,
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you think like she's clearly the choice of like the hip young people.
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And it turns out the hip young people think she's like a garbage person.
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her big TV debut with CNN turned out to be 17 minutes of unwatchability.
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I don't think she connected with anyone on that.
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And I think her whole party must've been thinking,
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We just commandeered the entire electoral process within the democratic party to put her up without ever having won a primary.
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You can still find a lot of people who couldn't speak fluent English who are smart.
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Like she doesn't mean the baseline requirement for politics,
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I think it was easy for them to go to her because naturally she's vice president.
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but I think nobody stopped to look when they were selecting her as vice president in the first place.
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to where she can be the standard bearer for the democratic party?
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I really don't think they fully examined that in their unfettered exuberance,
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So you've seen a lot of the process and isn't there a point at which you sit down with the person and like really talk,
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It is unthinkable to me that they would do that.
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that is a far cry from the presidency of the United States.
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It is unthinkable to me that I would tie my name to somebody when endorsing them in a Senate primary.
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But this is magnified so many hundreds of times over with the presidency.
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but I don't think there was a whole lot going on with Joe Biden to begin with.
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It does make you pretty nervous about the whole infrastructure of the United States,
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because if they would elevate someone like Kamala Harris consistently throughout her whole career
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who are they making air traffic controllers and heart surgeons and who's running the VA?
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there are a lot of important jobs in this country.
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Totally incompetent people are in really important positions right now,
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you mentioned the FAA and air traffic controllers.
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That's one of those areas where they have taken a very radical DEI position,
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where they've actually taken out some of their minimum criteria in the past,
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aptitudes for math and science and that sort of thing.
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And they've replaced it literally with demographic material of the sort that really
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And it's a problem that creates bad consequences.
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when those who drafted the 14th amendment and the equal protection clause,
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what they had in mind was that race doesn't matter and that government's position must
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you're excluding all kinds of other things that do matter.
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and you're not allowed to say she's an affirmative action hire,
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that's a fair observation here is that Joe Biden himself told us that.
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I'm going to pick someone who is of this gender and of this race.
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That is really insulting to the person he picks.
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I don't know the answer to this and maybe you will.
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U S to test hypersonic nuclear missile tonight,
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just hours after election polls close amid growing world war three fears.
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I don't know why November 5th would have to be the day when that it's an
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The minute man to scheduled to blast off between 1101 PM and 501 AM from
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why would you have a nuclear missile test on the same day as a presidential
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let me put the most favorable spin on this that I possibly can.
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The most favorable spin I can put on that one was that some pinheads in the
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Pentagon are totally tone deaf on political matters and didn't have the
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I think there are 364 other days they could have chosen for this year.
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historians look back on this campaign and presumably books will be written about it and
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probably the first six or seven of them will be completely dishonest.
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But when the distance has grown sufficient that we can be honest about what happened,
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I think we will understand that the endorsement of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of Donald Trump in this
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I think you're working every bit as hard on his behalf as you were on your own behalf.
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But have you had any time to think about what this means?
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what does this mean for American politics going forward?
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he's unlike any politician that we've seen in American history.
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the one comparison that I would make would be Andrew Jackson.
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Cause Andrew Jackson came in without any money or,
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he was truly a populist candidate and he came in and did things that nobody thought was possible to challenge the banks.
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a lot of people think that of Trump is a conventional politician because the last time around he can,
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he initially appointed a lot of very conventional people,
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People don't remember almost his entire cabinet was gone within two years.
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And as he learned to govern and he wants to do,
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And I spent two days with him recently and he was saying,
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that the kind of change is the level of change that he wants to make in our government.
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He wants a revolution and I think he's going to get one.
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the Trump white house will advise all us water systems to remove fluoride from public water.
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Fluoride is an industrial waste associated with arthritis,
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President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump want to make America healthy again.
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23.5 million people thought it was pretty great.
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it's interesting because there was a case that was handed down on October 4th on fluoride and it was an Obama appointed judge,
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And it was brought to challenge EPA for never having done safety studies.
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Fluoride was put in the water in 1940s and it was,
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But now it's recognized that most of our mouthwashes and toothaches have fluoride in them and you don't need fluoride in the water.
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And it's a very inefficient way of preventing tooth decay because you're getting it in people's blood.
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they haven't done a lot of studies that they should have done,
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but there are extensive studies that show if you put fluoride in water at double the rate that EPA now allows,
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And it causes dramatic IQ loss in children and particularly in unborn fetuses.
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And we had an explosion of bone cancer beginning in the 1940s.
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It also calcifies the pineal gland of the human brain,
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which is the part of our brain that actually creates our spiritual feelings.
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but the EPA will drag its feet and take 10 years or 15 years to do it.
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being against fluoride in the water was the single most reliable marker of mental illness,
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the health injuries that were predicted for it were not exactly that,
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but there are profound health injuries and it's just insane to have it in our water.
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CDC says it's one of the 10 greatest health introductions of any,
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They promote it to the American public and then they don't want to dial it back.
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They do not want to admit that they made a mistake.
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it's one of the easiest thing you can do to start restoring American health is just get the
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I don't even want to bring up the topic with you.
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but the question of whether any product should have blanket liability from lawsuits.
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I can't get the Congress to require every American to use these,
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Like that's so crazy that any pharma company has a blanket shield from lawsuits for any product
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There's a 1986 law that gave the vaccine companies a liability shield.
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And my kids now were required to take 72 vaccines.
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the COVID vaccines and flu vaccines to the schedule.
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they added a vaccine called the diphtheria tetanus and pertussis vaccine.
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causes death or profound brain injuries in one out of every 300 kids who gets it.
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went to the Reagan White House and told Reagan,
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we're losing $20 in downstream liability for every dollar that we're going to do.
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My uncle Ted Kennedy was the head of the Senate committee at that time that went
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And that phrase is actually in the preamble of the statute.
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which is the Supreme Court decision that upheld the statute.
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I don't want to take vaccines away from people.
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I don't want to impose my choices on the American public.
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And that tells them the costs and the benefits of these products.
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And particularly since they're being ordered to use them,
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76 million kids a year are required to use them.
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So it's the only medical product that's given to healthy people.
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So you want a product like that to be extra solid,
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there's certain risks that you'll take if you're sick to get better.
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and you shouldn't be required to take a product unless it is ironclad,
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they were originally introduced by the public health service,
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And the public health service introduced them and push them as a national
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security defense against biological attacks on our country.
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So they wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax or
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they could quickly formulate a vaccine and then deploy it to 220 million
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Americans civilians without regulatory impediments.
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A normal medical product takes about eight years to get to market because it
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There are many effects from every medical product that have long diagnostic
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They didn't want to go through that because they said it's going to be a
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we're going to call it a biologic and we're going to exempt biologics from
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That's 72 vaccines that has ever gone through a pre-licensing safety study,
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placebo controlled trial against a real placebo.
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that means that nobody knows what the risk profiles are on these products.
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And nobody can tell you whether that product is averting more problems than
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if I'm given this shop in the white house is I'll make sure that those
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studies get done that there are people on the panels that approve these
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products that are not loaded with conflicts of interest.
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And that doctors and patients and Americans know exactly what the costs and
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benefits of every vaccine are and can make a rational decision.
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can you be for people who aren't following this,
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can you be more specific about what job you're talking about?
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He's asked me in terms of the public health agencies,
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the agency capture phenomena that has turned these,
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these public health agencies away from public health.
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their principal objective now is to advance the mercantile interests of the
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And president Trump has told me he wants to see concrete,
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whether that means as an HHS secretary or whether it means,
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And the reason that I think that you will be given the authority to do
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that is because I've been at a bunch of different public events with you
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And the reception that you receive from Trump voters is so shocking to me.
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you get the biggest response from Republican voters.
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there's been a complete inversion between the Democratic and Republican
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Now it's the party of surveillance and censorship.
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And the weaponization of the federal law enforcement agencies against
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It was the party that stood up for working people or poor people,
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and it is also the party that's completely abandoned the working class
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You look at the labor unions with Sean O'Brien,
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who's the head of the biggest union in our country.
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He overthrew the old half a legatees of the teamsters.
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And he is the most popular president that they've had in generations.
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This is true of labor unions across the country.
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one of the interesting things when I was a kid,
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the Republican party was the party that had all the money.
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Because they had all the big corporations on their side.
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when I ran part of my uncle Ted's presidential campaign,
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70% of the wealth in this country was owned by Republicans.
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70% of the wealth in this country was owned by Democrats.
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So you've had this complete inversion of the two parties.
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the Democratic Party is the party that is dismantling women's sports.
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that have been given to male athletes playing women's sports.
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So those are medals that did not go to women who,
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all of her siblings would come to Cape Cod in the summer
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And I took their family skiing during the winter,