The Tucker Carlson Show - November 06, 2024


Tucker Carlson Election Night LIVE From Mar-a-Lago With Special Guests

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Kamala Harris has won the primary in Vermont, and Donald Trump is now the next president of the United States. But what does that mean for the rest of the country? And why did it happen? Alex and Tucker try to figure it out. Plus, why did Georgia become more liberal than it ever has before? And what s going on in Florida and Georgia? Special thanks to our sponsor, Sunnybrook, for sponsoring this episode. Special thanks also to Tucker for the question of the day, and to Sarah for the conspiracy theory of the week, "Why did the media let Donald Trump win the election?" And special thanks to the folks at CNN for the fact that they asked us to do a live show on election night, and we did our best to answer all of your questions. Special thanks and shout outs to Tucker and Sarah for their hard work on this episode, and for all of their support and hard work in getting us out there and getting us on the ground in time to make it to the ground floor of the 2020 election. Thanks, Tucker and Alex, for all your hard work and all your support and all the hard work you put in. We appreciate it. And we'll see you next week with a new episode of Special Thanks! on Election Night. - Special Thanks to Tucker, Alex, Sarah, and Sarah, for coming up with the idea for the joke of the night, Special Thanks, Special Thank You! by Tucker, for the Question of the Week. and Special Thanks: Special Thanks and Good Morning America by Special Thanks. by Dr. Tom and Special Thank you, Tucker, from the Pollinator, for sending us a question and a question from a listener who asked us about the question: What do you're most excited about the election night? and we'll answer it! and the answer is: What would you like to know about the future of the election? by Alex and Sarah's favorite thing that's going to be the most important thing you're going to vote for in 2020 and what do you'd like to see in the next episode of 2020? and what would you would you do in 2020, and how do you think about the next election in 2020? and we'd like your answer it? Thanks again, Sarah and Sarah would like to hear more of your thoughts and your thoughts on what you're looking forward to hearing more of that in the coming weeks? Thank you for all the love and support?

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00:00:53.200 Oh! 0.60
00:00:54.380 We're in an anteroom in Mar-a-Lago on election night.
00:00:57.080 Marjorie Taylor Greene sitting directly across from me.
00:00:59.300 We are moments from getting another tranche of election results.
00:01:03.900 It looks like Kamala Harris has won the state of Vermont.
00:01:06.760 Is it over?
00:01:07.920 It's over.
00:01:10.460 Congratulations, Vermont.
00:01:11.180 She won Vermont.
00:01:13.320 There is full-
00:01:13.920 But really just Burlington, if you come right down to it.
00:01:16.220 I mean, there's just no chance she won the Northeast Kingdom.
00:01:18.220 There's no chance she won the pretty parts of Vermont, just the urban slum in Vermont. 0.97
00:01:21.000 How do you feel with the limited data we now have about this election?
00:01:27.500 I feel optimistic, but I'm cautious because, you know, for the past eight or nine years,
00:01:32.460 we've watched the left and the media totally destroy Donald Trump's character, defame him,
00:01:38.140 slander him, impeach him twice, try to lock him up, try to bankrupt him, try to kill him. 0.99
00:01:43.980 So my thoughts and questions are, why would they let him win? 0.98
00:01:48.460 It's a good question.
00:01:49.780 And what I'm always struck by, we were just with, spent an hour or two with Trump just
00:01:54.580 a minute ago, I think you were there, is the distance between the Trump that you hear about
00:01:59.540 and the Trump that you actually experience when you're with him.
00:02:02.240 And the first thing that I always notice about Trump, other than the fact he's truly hilarious,
00:02:06.660 he's just so instinctively moderate.
00:02:08.460 I mean, that's like the least radical person I think I know.
00:02:12.940 Right.
00:02:13.540 Yeah, he's not radical.
00:02:14.900 At all.
00:02:15.480 Well, let's be honest, they actually know him.
00:02:17.800 They know him just as well as we do, Tucker.
00:02:19.860 That's right.
00:02:20.400 Everybody's known Donald Trump for years.
00:02:22.620 They partied with him.
00:02:23.960 They hung out with him.
00:02:24.900 They supported him.
00:02:25.960 They praised him.
00:02:27.220 They loved him.
00:02:28.480 Democrats took his money.
00:02:30.480 They love Donald Trump.
00:02:31.900 You know, and I think maybe it boils down to this.
00:02:33.780 They're really angry and jealous that they don't have Donald Trump.
00:02:38.120 And maybe that's part of it.
00:02:39.960 They do have Tim Walz.
00:02:41.720 We'll see if that'll be enough.
00:02:43.020 Trump has won the state of Florida by looks like about a million votes so far.
00:02:50.180 30 electoral votes.
00:02:51.880 Not surprising.
00:02:52.620 That state seems to be just like a solid Republican state at this point.
00:02:56.820 Yeah, big red wall.
00:02:58.200 Well, so many people moved there after COVID, rightfully so.
00:03:01.520 The Democrats shut down the country.
00:03:03.920 They made life miserable for people.
00:03:05.960 Suicide rates were the highest at all times.
00:03:08.960 Suicide rates in children were higher than they've ever been, as if any child should ever commit suicide.
00:03:14.840 Yes.
00:03:15.060 Such a horrible thought.
00:03:16.520 But yeah, a lot of people definitely moved to Florida to escape all those kinds of lives.
00:03:20.120 Well, then can I ask, I mean, maybe a controversial question, but a lot of people moved to Georgia, too.
00:03:24.820 And yet it became more liberal.
00:03:26.660 What is going on with Georgia?
00:03:27.720 Why would Georgia, of all states, a state I always think of as reliably conservative, I've never met a liberal from Georgia, why is it even up for grabs at this point?
00:03:38.860 What would happen?
00:03:39.600 Well, a lot of people moved to Georgia, but people have been, or businesses have been recruited to Georgia.
00:03:44.340 So we have the tech corridor.
00:03:46.300 We have Hollywood because somebody thought that was a good idea to give them tax credits.
00:03:51.540 But we've had a lot, you know, electric vehicle battery plants.
00:03:54.740 Wait, they brought actors to your state on purpose?
00:03:56.900 On purpose.
00:03:57.960 Why would they do that?
00:04:00.140 Apparently, they thought it'd be cool.
00:04:01.960 I don't know.
00:04:02.760 I really liked Georgia back when we didn't have the Hollywood there.
00:04:05.640 Yeah, a lot of actors in your state, like real people who aren't pretending to be somebody else.
00:04:10.780 Oh, so that was a product of, like, intent.
00:04:13.600 They were lured there.
00:04:14.680 Yeah, Democrat, I mean, I'm sorry, Republicans said that.
00:04:17.400 It sounded like Democrats would be the ones to do something like that.
00:04:20.160 Not surprised.
00:04:20.400 So right now we have Donald Trump at about 55% in the state of Florida, Kamala Harris at 44%.
00:04:30.400 What do you think is going to happen in your state tonight in Georgia?
00:04:35.520 Well, they called my race at 7 p.m., literally when the polls closed.
00:04:41.600 And I take that as a good sign.
00:04:42.840 So you lost?
00:04:43.440 No, you were elected for the third time.
00:04:46.840 For the third time, yeah.
00:04:48.780 Last time I checked, it's interesting.
00:04:50.200 I think of you and Trump as very similar in the arc of your public careers.
00:04:54.580 You both came from outside of politics into politics.
00:04:57.220 You were both declared dangerous to the country almost immediately.
00:05:00.320 You were, for a period of, like, a while, months, the most reviled person in the world.
00:05:05.540 You were a danger to democracy.
00:05:08.560 I'm surprised you didn't get arrested.
00:05:10.940 And then you became, you kind of endured, you stuck it out.
00:05:14.180 You weren't intimidated.
00:05:14.880 You didn't leave.
00:05:15.460 The Republican Party tried to kick you out, hung in there.
00:05:18.000 And then you became one of the most influential people in the party.
00:05:21.140 It does kind of feel like Donald Trump's story.
00:05:24.140 Absolutely.
00:05:24.900 Well, I haven't been arrested yet.
00:05:26.560 No, you.
00:05:27.460 Fair.
00:05:28.020 And I'm still alive, even though several have tried.
00:05:31.260 But, you know, it's pretty interesting to me, Tucker.
00:05:33.080 And I'm actually enjoying it very much.
00:05:36.240 I get to listen to all these Republicans that denounced me and voted to kick me off committees
00:05:41.740 and talked bad about me and slandered me and distanced themselves from me.
00:05:46.860 I get to sound, listen to them, and they very much sound like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:05:52.100 As a matter of fact, they say the same things that I say.
00:05:54.560 I noticed that.
00:05:55.300 Have any apologized to you?
00:05:57.640 Quite a few have, actually.
00:05:59.120 Oh, good.
00:05:59.640 Yeah, quite a few.
00:06:00.120 Not all of them, but quite a few have apologized.
00:06:01.900 Well, good for them.
00:06:02.600 Well, when they get yelled at, when they go back home by their own constituents and
00:06:06.080 they get asked, why can't you be more like Marjorie Taylor Greene?
00:06:10.900 I think they figured it out.
00:06:12.820 It's just so funny.
00:06:14.280 Here's another similarity between you and Trump.
00:06:16.740 He was, I'll never forget it, attacked on the front page of every newspaper in the country
00:06:21.440 for saying that white supremacists in Charlottesville were good people. 0.99
00:06:24.880 Ridiculous. 0.99
00:06:25.400 He never said that. 0.99
00:06:26.120 No.
00:06:26.300 You were attacked for using the phrase Jewish space lasers, which you never used.
00:06:34.140 No, I attacked PG&E, actually, which ironically has been in the news the past couple of days
00:06:39.180 for shutting power.
00:06:39.760 So I want to go to the betting markets really quick.
00:06:41.680 Who will win the presidential election?
00:06:42.960 Pretty straightforward question.
00:06:44.040 Donald Trump, 66%.
00:06:46.080 Kamala Harris, 34%, with about $282 million on the line so far.
00:06:54.960 I think that's current.
00:06:56.820 It's pretty overwhelming.
00:06:57.620 I think, and aren't those bettors, they're not rich people, right?
00:07:02.320 These are just average bets.
00:07:04.420 I really don't know enough about the betting market, but I would say most of them are not
00:07:09.840 betting massive sums of money, trying to swing the numbers.
00:07:13.980 I think they're legitimately betting that Donald Trump's going to win.
00:07:17.060 I couldn't, after over 30 years of trying to follow this stuff and getting more confused
00:07:21.180 every cycle, I feel like I know less about politics every cycle.
00:07:24.040 Well, I can't make any sense of the polls, and I don't think I'm being like a superstitious
00:07:28.480 villager when I say, I think they're just all manipulated.
00:07:32.000 You're in the business.
00:07:33.180 What do you think of the national polls in this season?
00:07:36.100 Well, I know I've never been polled, and I know most of my family and friends have never
00:07:40.240 been polled.
00:07:41.300 So my common sense says, how can the polls be correct if everyone I know doesn't participate
00:07:46.620 in them?
00:07:46.880 Right.
00:07:47.500 Well, that's right.
00:07:48.400 But is there a possibility that polls are used not to measure public opinion, but to
00:07:54.820 shape it?
00:07:55.780 I think that's possible?
00:07:57.280 100%.
00:07:57.720 Okay.
00:07:58.380 So we had this outlier poll that got a great deal of attention in Arizona that showed Donald
00:08:02.620 Trump losing Arizona.
00:08:05.960 I don't know a single living person who thinks that's going to happen, but that poll was everywhere,
00:08:11.100 scared the crap out of all these Republicans.
00:08:13.140 Was that the point of the poll? 0.90
00:08:14.700 Do you think?
00:08:14.920 Probably.
00:08:15.700 I think Republicans are easily misled.
00:08:18.800 Well, yeah. 1.00
00:08:20.540 They're kind of dumb a lot of the times, actually. 0.99
00:08:23.160 I have been. 0.99
00:08:24.460 Well, I mean, it's easy to get scared, but I think the reality is that we've seen mass
00:08:29.520 misinformation by the media, by Democrats, by Republicans, by consultants, and it is used
00:08:37.560 to sway the opinion of the people, also push their actions, right?
00:08:43.180 And so if they're told over and over and over again, every single day in the news, that 1.00
00:08:47.180 Donald Trump is a Nazi, Donald Trump is Hitler, Donald Trump is a fascist, Donald Trump is 0.99
00:08:51.440 a dictator, Donald Trump is losing, according to all these polls, what that's going to do 1.00
00:08:56.140 is it's going to make his supporters less likely to go out and vote for him.
00:08:59.660 I think that's exactly right.
00:09:01.280 Or embarrass them into not telling others that they're voting for Donald Trump.
00:09:05.960 It does feel like that's changing.
00:09:06.920 I want to ask you about that in two seconds, but just for an electoral update, we're at Kamala
00:09:09.960 Harris, 35, Kamala, Kamala, Carmela, I guess, Harris, 35 electoral votes so far, Donald Trump,
00:09:18.420 95, 270 needed to win.
00:09:22.000 You think we'll know tonight?
00:09:24.320 You know, I feel like we've been campaigning for years now.
00:09:27.060 I would love to know tonight, but I have been shocked so many times over the past couple
00:09:32.480 of years.
00:09:32.780 I've quit predicting to Barack Obama, who I think, you know, if you're to lay responsibility
00:09:39.800 for the destruction of America at any one person, I think it would be Barack Obama, the
00:09:43.940 most deceptive president in our history and most anti-American.
00:09:49.380 He just tweeted, you know, we may not know for a long time, days, and that's normal.
00:09:55.520 In what sense is it normal?
00:09:57.020 India, the biggest democracy in the world, gets its votes counted in by sundown.
00:10:01.200 Why can't we do that?
00:10:02.780 Right.
00:10:03.120 Well, we should be able to do that.
00:10:04.340 And everyone knows it.
00:10:05.460 And they know it, too. 1.00
00:10:06.620 They're just liars. 0.97
00:10:07.800 And the reason why he's saying we may not know for days is because they plan on stealing 0.99
00:10:12.920 the election.
00:10:14.380 I know we're not supposed to say that.
00:10:15.920 Why not?
00:10:16.220 Well, I, you know, I'm an election denier, so I fall in that camp.
00:10:20.120 But honestly, they don't.
00:10:21.420 You're an elected official, and so you have the right to comment on elections and say whatever
00:10:25.520 you think about elections.
00:10:26.580 Absolutely.
00:10:27.080 You were elected.
00:10:28.100 Yeah, that's true.
00:10:29.420 If you can't give your opinion on elections, then who can?
00:10:33.480 That's a fair point.
00:10:34.540 Yeah, I think it is.
00:10:36.520 I'm sorry I interrupted you.
00:10:37.680 Yeah, can I give my opinion on voting machines as well?
00:10:40.560 We should not be using them.
00:10:42.160 They're very faulty.
00:10:43.520 They're a horrible product.
00:10:44.820 I talked to people in my district that voted on these voting machines and that switched
00:10:50.700 their votes, switched their votes.
00:10:52.660 But because our country is so disgusting and attacks people that come out and tell the
00:10:58.660 truth and try to be whistleblowers about what's happening, these people are scared to
00:11:03.160 go on record and say what they experienced.
00:11:05.400 As someone who spent like 12 hours in depositions from voting machine companies, not even named
00:11:11.500 in the suits, no, I'm very aware of their efforts to intimidate the rest of us into silence.
00:11:15.480 So let me read Barack Obama's, Barack Hussein Obama, as Trump says, quote, from his tweet,
00:11:21.620 It took several days to count every ballot in 2020, and it's very likely we won't know
00:11:25.600 the outcome tonight either.
00:11:27.220 So please keep a few things in mind as you make your voice heard today.
00:11:30.800 He speaks only in cliches.
00:11:32.140 One, thousands of election workers around this country are working hard today.
00:11:35.380 Respect them.
00:11:36.280 Thank them. 1.00
00:11:36.860 Oh, shut up, you pompous douche. 0.99
00:11:38.620 Two, don't share things before checking your sources. 1.00
00:11:41.680 Really? 0.83
00:11:42.520 You liar? 0.99
00:11:43.380 You're lecturing me about accuracy? 1.00
00:11:44.840 Stop.
00:11:45.680 Sorry, my hostility is getting in the way.
00:11:46.920 Three, let the process run its course.
00:11:50.080 It takes time to count every ballot.
00:11:52.780 27.6 million views on Elon Musk's X.
00:11:57.640 So let me ask you, we have electronic voting machines because they are supposedly, they are
00:12:04.020 sold to us as faster and more accurate.
00:12:07.600 Leaving aside whether they're more accurate or not, there's a lot of evidence they're not
00:12:10.380 accurate at all.
00:12:11.800 And they don't leave a reliable record.
00:12:13.620 I think that's a fair criticism.
00:12:17.820 They're not faster.
00:12:19.920 No.
00:12:20.080 Countries with hand-counted paper ballots get their results in faster than we do.
00:12:23.620 So what could possibly be the point of spending money on a technology that's slower and less
00:12:30.280 accurate?
00:12:30.860 I don't understand.
00:12:31.620 Like, what's the upside?
00:12:32.800 Well, they get a contract and they make a lot of money.
00:12:34.900 That's one thing.
00:12:35.820 Okay.
00:12:36.060 But actually, I think there's multiple layers there.
00:12:39.320 Yeah.
00:12:39.480 The government is great at handing out contracts to their friends, right?
00:12:42.900 Friends and family.
00:12:43.640 So you have to remember that these companies make a lot of money off of providing their
00:12:51.760 product to be used in our elections.
00:12:54.040 And I think that's wrong.
00:12:55.280 I think our elections belong to the American people.
00:12:57.680 And the American people, largely and overwhelmingly on both sides of the aisle, don't like the
00:13:02.520 voting machines.
00:13:03.240 I mean, if I say I don't like Starbucks coffee and I don't want to drink Starbucks coffee
00:13:08.320 anymore, Starbucks is not going to sue me about it, right?
00:13:12.040 They can't sue me for saying that.
00:13:14.180 But yet, for some reason, these voting machine companies, when you say, I don't like the voting
00:13:18.720 machines, I don't want to use them.
00:13:20.500 I think they're bad.
00:13:21.700 I think they can steal elections. 0.74
00:13:23.660 All of a sudden, we all get threatened that we're going to sue.
00:13:25.640 Some left-wing oligarch will pay the voting machine company to haul you into court. 1.00
00:13:29.980 They stole my text messages and gave them to the New York Times.
00:13:32.540 I was not even named in the suit.
00:13:33.980 Which is a complete violation of your right to privacy.
00:13:37.340 Well, they're very sinister.
00:13:38.740 I would say Dominion's a very sinister company.
00:13:40.920 Well, they make a lot of money.
00:13:42.100 So if they lose their contracts, they're out.
00:13:44.040 But here is something.
00:13:45.260 You know, talking about Barack Obama's tweet, there was a message in there that I read when
00:13:51.680 you were reading it and I was looking at it, I think something to take away from his tweet
00:13:56.560 to me is he was saying, number one, be nice to the election workers.
00:14:01.900 He's telling people, do not harass them.
00:14:04.640 Do not push back.
00:14:05.740 We have election workers pushing out Republican poll watchers today.
00:14:09.340 I'm sorry.
00:14:10.420 We're not going to be respectful.
00:14:11.640 But it's also an inversion of the way things are supposed to work.
00:14:14.980 It's like they work for us.
00:14:16.200 They should be nice to us.
00:14:17.320 That's right.
00:14:17.820 I mean, I think you should be polite to everyone, including Barack Obama, by the way.
00:14:20.720 He was here.
00:14:21.060 I would be polite to him.
00:14:22.160 I'm polite to everybody.
00:14:22.860 I try.
00:14:23.340 But the second one was about censorship.
00:14:24.660 But the onus is on the people who work for us to be nice to us since they're our employees
00:14:29.320 whose salaries we pay.
00:14:31.060 Exactly. 1.00
00:14:31.780 So shut up, Barack Obama, once again. 0.97
00:14:33.940 And then the second one was check your sources before you share information. 0.99
00:14:38.700 Back to the whole lecturing of.
00:14:40.400 Well, he's a liar, so I'm not going to take accuracy advice from him.
00:14:44.680 Okay, so we have more information. 0.59
00:14:46.800 This is from Glenn Greenwald, one of our favorite journalists, one of the few good
00:14:51.040 journalists left.
00:14:52.120 Trump is up 11 points in the heavily Latino Miami-Dade County with 80% of the votes counted.
00:14:57.600 Biden won it by seven points in 2020.
00:15:00.260 Hillary won it by 30 points in 2016. 1.00
00:15:03.900 That's crazy.
00:15:06.140 That's wild.
00:15:07.100 With 80% of the votes in, Trump is 55 to Kamala Harris is 44%.
00:15:12.540 That is wild.
00:15:13.600 That's amazing.
00:15:14.600 For a man that's talking about securing the border, and this is a heavily Latino county.
00:15:19.260 Hillary won it by 30 points in 2016. 1.00
00:15:22.900 And now Trump is up 11.
00:15:24.380 I mean, that's what my math isn't great, but that's a swing of 41 points in eight years.
00:15:30.660 I wonder how many Puerto Ricans live in Miami-Dade.
00:15:33.320 I don't know.
00:15:34.000 That's a great question.
00:15:36.560 This is, to me, the long-term, the most significant number to come out of tonight, which is what
00:15:42.600 percentage of the Hispanic vote did Trump win?
00:15:45.240 It's huge.
00:15:46.240 Right.
00:15:46.720 Yes, this is huge.
00:15:47.680 So, for some reason, this is not discussed much in public, but for a guy who's very famous
00:15:55.140 for being a Klansman or a racist or a Nazi, he seems to be doing pretty well on Hispanic 0.96
00:16:00.120 voters.
00:16:00.840 Yeah.
00:16:01.820 Yeah.
00:16:03.220 Well.
00:16:04.220 Let me ask you one last question.
00:16:05.320 Okay.
00:16:05.500 If Trump wins tonight, he's on track to win.
00:16:08.720 Right.
00:16:09.720 What will the message be?
00:16:11.660 How will you feel?
00:16:13.260 Has there ever been a greater vindication?
00:16:15.000 Not yet.
00:16:18.340 Not yet.
00:16:19.140 I think winning tonight will be the beginning.
00:16:22.960 To me, it'll be a celebration, but actually, it means a lot more because it's time to get
00:16:30.380 to work.
00:16:31.380 And that's when the hard work really begins.
00:16:33.560 Oh, yeah.
00:16:34.020 If he wins tonight, the most dangerous time in our history will start.
00:16:37.920 We have thought the most dangerous time have been the past four years or so.
00:16:41.660 That's not true.
00:16:42.440 If President Trump goes back in the White House, it truly will be, in my opinion, something
00:16:48.360 we've never experienced.
00:16:49.600 In what sense?
00:16:50.540 Why?
00:16:51.000 They cannot let him win.
00:16:53.320 They can't let him achieve what he has promised to the country.
00:16:57.500 They can't let Republicans support him to achieve the agenda that he's promised to the country
00:17:03.060 because it destroys everything that the entire world, the globalists, the elites, climate change,
00:17:09.640 that goes away.
00:17:10.700 If America stops supporting the climate change lie, China stops supporting the climate change
00:17:16.080 lie.
00:17:16.480 All the other dominoes fall, and that one goes away.
00:17:19.600 That's been one of their biggest false gods that they've worshipped for a long time.
00:17:23.880 Going even further, what have they been trying to do for, I don't know, 20 years or more,
00:17:28.380 even longer?
00:17:29.340 They've been supporting migration, invading all—look at Europe. 0.99
00:17:34.120 Totally invaded Europe. 0.82
00:17:35.140 Destroyed.
00:17:35.600 America.
00:17:36.080 They're trying to destroy us.
00:17:37.800 That will stop.
00:17:39.420 And if we really secure the border and shut it down like we're planning to do, that's
00:17:44.740 going to change everything.
00:17:45.660 That ruins their whole migration plan.
00:17:48.500 So if President Trump goes into office on January 20th of 2025, I honestly don't know
00:17:57.820 what they're going to do to stop him, and I can't fathom it, but I think it's going to
00:18:01.800 get worse.
00:18:02.220 You have a keen appreciation for the ruthlessness of the other side, having been his victim.
00:18:08.540 So that's somebody to take seriously.
00:18:11.300 Yeah.
00:18:11.700 But in the meantime, if Trump wins, pretty great.
00:18:14.300 It's going to be awesome.
00:18:15.660 I swear it's going to be great. 0.99
00:18:17.440 I'm going to go find some fake news person and just punch him straight in the nose. 1.00
00:18:23.600 Another Trump supporter calling for violence. 1.00
00:18:26.220 Yeah, I don't mind a little bit of violence like that.
00:18:28.300 Marjorie, thank you very much.
00:18:31.440 Yeah, thank you.
00:18:32.160 Wonderful to see you, Congressman.
00:18:33.240 Thank you.
00:18:33.560 And congrats on winning.
00:18:34.560 Thank you.
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00:23:37.040 All right, so we are bringing up next a friend of mine, someone who, without getting into too
00:23:45.240 much detail, was one of the rare members of the first Trump administration who, in my estimation,
00:23:52.960 stayed true to the vision of the candidate from the first day to the last.
00:23:57.060 Not everybody in the first Trump administration did that.
00:23:59.180 There were some mercenaries involved.
00:24:02.100 There were some people of low character.
00:24:04.420 Trump himself has said this.
00:24:05.820 But there were some people of high character and clear vision.
00:24:09.940 And at the very top of that list would be our guest, Cliff Sims, who sits across from
00:24:14.540 me now, who's involved in the—will be involved in the president's transition efforts
00:24:18.500 if he wins.
00:24:20.000 Thanks so much.
00:24:20.920 Thanks for having me.
00:24:21.720 This is awesome.
00:24:22.660 It's so great.
00:24:23.560 So what do you think we're looking at, to the extent we know?
00:24:26.800 The truth is, we don't know.
00:24:28.340 No, we don't.
00:24:28.880 We don't know.
00:24:29.500 Don't admit that.
00:24:30.420 You're breaking the fourth wall, Cliff.
00:24:32.100 Well, we just have to be honest with the people here.
00:24:34.180 Chuck, you're right.
00:24:35.020 Come on.
00:24:35.800 You're right.
00:24:36.000 Fake news is in some other part of the complex.
00:24:37.900 This is the real— 0.99
00:24:38.300 I've sat on so many sets on election night and kind of bullshit on it. 0.98
00:24:41.380 Well, it looks like Macomb County reporting, you know, whatever. 0.98
00:24:44.860 You don't know.
00:24:45.340 You really are.
00:24:46.180 It's funny.
00:24:46.700 You know, as a political operative, you get all these texts throughout the day saying, what are you hearing?
00:24:51.240 Well, I'm not hearing freaking anything.
00:24:52.760 I'm like hearing what you're doing.
00:24:54.160 It's like the same thing.
00:24:55.000 I think about the same thing in the White House.
00:24:56.280 When you work there, you realize how often you experience events through the television, even though you're sitting in the building, you know?
00:25:04.700 So it's really the same thing.
00:25:05.860 I mean, I don't pay any attention to the polls.
00:25:08.780 I don't pay any attention.
00:25:09.480 You really don't?
00:25:10.060 I really don't.
00:25:10.940 But I do think that there is something to this betting markets stuff because people are—there's, like, real money.
00:25:17.980 People are, like, laying down money.
00:25:19.220 You brought it up.
00:25:19.980 They're—Kalshi, am I pronouncing that correctly?
00:25:22.060 Okay.
00:25:24.600 We're looking at it right now on the screen.
00:25:26.300 Donald Trump, 65%.
00:25:28.580 Yeah.
00:25:29.360 Kamala Harris, 35%.
00:25:31.200 Dropping like a stone.
00:25:33.180 Yeah.
00:25:33.320 He's ascending like a rocket.
00:25:35.720 That's meaningful, you're saying?
00:25:36.740 Well, maybe.
00:25:37.960 I mean, the one thing I'll say about it is these are not yet mature markets.
00:25:41.780 Yeah.
00:25:41.980 And so we're at a point where if somebody gets a wild hair and it's like, I'm going to drop a million dollars down on this right now, they can swing it.
00:25:48.760 Right.
00:25:49.500 Quickly.
00:25:51.040 But I just think there's always something to be said when, like, people are willing to put their money behind something and say, like, I believe this is going to happen.
00:25:57.200 I'm going to actually put some skin in the game.
00:25:59.700 $284 million of skin in the game.
00:26:01.560 That's right.
00:26:02.180 That's right.
00:26:02.560 So I think there could be something to that.
00:26:03.940 I mean, we are seeing a little bit of data starting to trickle in here and there, and I will say it looks favorable.
00:26:11.080 But we're still at a point now where it's really hard to say what's going to happen.
00:26:14.340 Why do you ignore the polls?
00:26:16.760 Well, I mean, how many times do they have to be wrong before you're just like, you know, I don't even read them anymore?
00:26:21.060 No.
00:26:21.340 I mean, one of the things that I took away from the time that I spent with you in Maine was when you were in Maine, it's not that you're completely cut off from the world.
00:26:32.320 Pretty cut off.
00:26:32.840 But you're very selective about your consumption of information.
00:26:36.100 Yes.
00:26:36.600 And I have found that there is an inverse relationship between the amount that I pay attention to the news and my personal happiness.
00:26:43.960 Yes.
00:26:44.540 And the accrued wisdom, actually.
00:26:47.280 That's right.
00:26:47.760 That's right.
00:26:48.160 So this is something you and I have talked about.
00:26:49.500 I mean, there are reasons that things – wisdom that has stood the test of time, there's a reason it has stood the test of time.
00:26:55.020 There's not a lot of what happens on cable news that ever stands the test of time.
00:26:58.420 No.
00:26:58.600 And so there's probably something to that that we should probably eliminate.
00:27:01.380 So I feel the same way about polls.
00:27:03.060 I mean, my gosh, they were wrong in 2016.
00:27:04.820 They were wrong in 2020.
00:27:05.760 I think they're wrong now.
00:27:06.680 What do you think it feels like to work in cable news for 25 years and realize that nothing you've said on TV matters at all or will be remembered by anybody or affected anything in any meaningful way?
00:27:17.700 It's got to be a miserable existence.
00:27:19.720 I mean, look, Tucker, you know these people better than anybody.
00:27:22.640 There's a reason –
00:27:22.900 No, no, I'm talking about myself.
00:27:24.640 No, not you. 0.99
00:27:26.200 There is a reason why these are the most miserable people. 0.99
00:27:29.320 Oh, they are.
00:27:30.380 I mean, they are – I know a lot of them personally now.
00:27:32.860 Oh, I do too.
00:27:33.420 And they are miserable, sad, depressed people who have a very difficult time finding any meaning in what they're doing.
00:27:40.460 And so instead they chase – there's almost a drug addict element to it where they're chasing the next little dopamine hit. 0.87
00:27:46.740 I know.
00:27:47.020 So like, oh, I got a mini scoop.
00:27:48.580 What is that?
00:27:48.860 I don't even know what a mini scoop is.
00:27:50.300 A scooplet?
00:27:51.200 I know.
00:27:51.340 What is a scoop?
00:27:52.080 Oh, I posted – you know.
00:27:53.020 And this is like the people that do like Politico Playbook and these –
00:27:56.440 They're the most unhappy people ever. 0.99
00:27:58.220 They are miserable people. 1.00
00:27:59.620 Miserable people. 1.00
00:28:00.120 I could name the number of happy ones on one hand.
00:28:03.420 I knew – I lived next to Andrea Mitchell for years. 0.93
00:28:06.060 Unhappiest person.
00:28:06.860 Dana Bash.
00:28:07.600 I worked with her.
00:28:08.320 Unhappiest person.
00:28:09.040 It's like –
00:28:09.540 You can just get on the list.
00:28:10.320 Like, who's happy?
00:28:11.400 I don't know.
00:28:12.340 They're also the least self-reflective people I've ever met in my life.
00:28:15.560 And that would actually do them some good to like have a little bit of self-reflection about this because that's where you find meaning and happiness by reflecting on the things that you are doing and have done and trying to extrapolate meaning from them.
00:28:26.740 Like, what should I think about this?
00:28:29.040 And there are a couple that I will say is very interesting and you and I know them.
00:28:32.080 I won't say their names, who are wrestling with that right now and have been like in an existential crisis that they're like, why does anything – nothing I'm doing matters.
00:28:41.480 And the people I work with are miserable.
00:28:43.300 And I look at the people who are 10, 20, 30 years ahead of me in this career track and they're all miserable.
00:28:48.260 And maybe this isn't what I should do with my life.
00:28:51.240 I don't know.
00:28:51.960 I mean, there's something to be said for you and what you've done.
00:28:54.640 Wait.
00:28:54.740 I'm sorry.
00:28:55.700 I just need to interrupt.
00:28:56.440 Do it.
00:28:56.800 I'm shocked and thrilled.
00:28:58.640 Florida voters reject ballot measure legalizing recreational marijuana use.
00:29:03.520 I did not – so the pro-drug people spent more money in Florida on this, I think, more than any ballot measure in the history of Florida.
00:29:11.140 They were everywhere.
00:29:11.760 And in general, voters tend to sign off on legalizing weed.
00:29:17.420 Why do you think they rejected this?
00:29:20.280 I do think that there is this – there are these patterns in public life.
00:29:25.840 There are backlashes to certain – the pendulum swings.
00:29:28.900 Yes, that's right.
00:29:29.460 And it always – it swings like a pendulum.
00:29:32.140 It swings hard and it swings hard and then it kind of – there's some stasis in the middle.
00:29:35.700 And I think we've experienced too much of a swing too fast dramatically to the left on this issue and many other issues.
00:29:44.460 That's right.
00:29:44.820 And you're about to see a serious backlash to that.
00:29:48.060 I'd like to see us go full Singapore on the question.
00:29:51.020 I mean, it's really destroying the country.
00:29:52.920 And I smoked weed every day of my childhood, so I was always for marijuana.
00:29:57.100 But watching what it's doing to young boys right now, I feel like people need to go to prison right away.
00:30:04.100 I mean, it's really destroying them.
00:30:06.300 Like, actually, ask them.
00:30:07.680 By the way, if you're around, 18-year-old boy, college freshman, you know, how many people do you know who've been wrecked by dab pens?
00:30:13.920 And they'll tell you.
00:30:15.240 And people are getting rich from it.
00:30:16.480 And they're criminals as far as I'm concerned.
00:30:18.320 So, well, that's crazy. 0.98
00:30:19.640 Did you expect that?
00:30:20.720 I haven't been tracking it.
00:30:21.900 I haven't been tracking it.
00:30:22.440 Sorry, this is something I'm fixated on as an anti-drug person.
00:30:27.200 But I really think the Saudis get it right on the undrugged policy. 1.00
00:30:31.120 I really do.
00:30:31.660 Well, Trump has talked a lot about, you know, death penalty for drug kingpins and that kind of thing.
00:30:36.340 So I think he's on the same page.
00:30:37.880 Yeah, I mean, it's – okay, so Trump wins Florida by double digits.
00:30:44.080 Again, probably not shocking, but if you take three steps back, pretty big change from a few years ago.
00:30:50.100 Yeah, and the thing that I also think about there is you're seeing people vote with their feet.
00:30:55.480 So they're leaving places like California.
00:30:57.200 They're leaving – and the concern has been these people are going to leave California, move to Texas and Florida, and they're going to vote like they still live in California.
00:31:05.220 Right.
00:31:05.680 And this is suggesting that people are not just leaving the places the left has decimated, that they are leaving the left.
00:31:12.200 That's the way I read that.
00:31:15.420 Well, it feels like there, to use an overused phrase, there has been a big vibe shift.
00:31:20.640 There has.
00:31:21.360 In that I notice it everywhere I go, just from the number of people who scream at me at airports, which is like down to almost zero.
00:31:28.440 Well, it's almost no screaming at airports now, which is kind of crazy.
00:31:32.100 I was at Logan Airport this morning early, waiting to be screamed at, not one screamer.
00:31:36.260 That's a little disappointing.
00:31:37.540 I'm kind of.
00:31:38.540 I'd steal myself for screaming.
00:31:40.520 I'd had two Dunkin' Donuts large coffees because I was ready.
00:31:44.640 No, just a nice nurse came up and thanked me for my service. 0.76
00:31:47.580 I said, I work in television, not really service, but thank you.
00:31:50.220 But I do feel like Elon getting involved is a big, big, big, big factor.
00:31:57.380 Well, there's no doubt.
00:31:58.880 One thing that I have noticed in the last, I mean, I haven't been doing this a long time.
00:32:02.860 I really, 2016 election cycle is the first time I was involved in a presidential, at the presidential level, even remotely close to that.
00:32:09.280 And the thing that I have noticed, and it's specific to Trump, but it's also, I think, even broader than Trump, is the stigma that was attached to Trump personally.
00:32:19.460 Yes.
00:32:19.780 And that was attached to being a conservative.
00:32:22.120 Yes.
00:32:23.300 Is entirely gone.
00:32:24.840 And in fact, being a conservative is now a full-on countercultural movement because the left is, if you want to be a rebel now, you're a conservative.
00:32:35.140 Oh, yeah.
00:32:35.960 If you want to be a part of the establishment and you want things to stay the same and you want to be one of these elite, you know, whatever, then you're a leftist.
00:32:43.160 If you're on a college campus right now, which used to be like the bastion of the left is a college campus.
00:32:48.120 And granted, still in our elite universities, you know, some of them are.
00:32:52.000 If you go to most college campuses around the country right now, they are voting for Donald Trump.
00:32:56.460 Oh, for sure.
00:32:57.060 They've got the red MAGA hat on, boys and girls alike.
00:33:00.600 It is completely shifted.
00:33:02.040 And Elon, I think, is a huge part of that because he exists in a similar way to Trump outside of politics in the cultural zeitgeist in a way that politicians couldn't even imagine.
00:33:14.940 And when a guy like that says, this is screwed up and I'm for the guy that they're trying to kill, I think that that's moved votes in a really meaningful way.
00:33:26.520 I even see it in my pickup basketball games in my hometown in Birmingham, Alabama. 0.86
00:33:32.600 People used to think I was kind of a novelty.
00:33:35.180 Oh, he worked for Trump.
00:33:36.240 Like, what's up?
00:33:36.780 What's that all about?
00:33:37.500 And now I walk in, literally, I walk in, they have ordered the Trump shoes and would like for me to get DJT to sign them for them.
00:33:47.160 And this has all happened in the last couple of years.
00:33:49.980 I believe that.
00:33:50.620 It's a huge vibe shift.
00:33:51.400 I believe that.
00:33:52.900 A lot of black guys in your game?
00:33:54.360 A lot of black guys in my game.
00:33:55.660 So that is a real shift.
00:33:57.020 And I never really believe Republicans are always telling, we're going to win the black folks.
00:34:01.200 No, you're not.
00:34:01.980 But I have no, just in my life, just any, every black guy knows, like, not against Trump, kind of.
00:34:07.960 Yeah, totally.
00:34:08.640 That is real.
00:34:09.720 100%.
00:34:10.120 Well, it's now, you know, you don't want to be stereotypical about people, but if you look out about across a mass of people and you think, you can't have, you know, like, I wonder if that person votes for this person or that person or whatever.
00:34:21.440 Now, if you see a middle-aged, unattractive white woman, they probably voted for the Democrat. 1.00
00:34:31.900 100%.
00:34:32.320 And if you see a young black male who has been a historic constituency of the Democrat Party, that's a Republican now.
00:34:38.800 Captive.
00:34:39.180 That's a Republican now.
00:34:39.960 I totally agree.
00:34:40.640 And working class voters, same thing. 0.96
00:34:42.620 If you saw a working class white voter in a trailer park, historically, they would say the Republicans are the party of Wall Street and they don't care about me and they probably voted for Democrats. 0.71
00:34:55.220 Those are – that's our base now.
00:34:57.980 That's where I grew up.
00:34:59.440 That's, you know, in working class white America where J.D. Vance grew up.
00:35:04.820 J.D. Vance is a picture of the shift in the Republican Party.
00:35:09.220 It's like an avatar for the shift that is happening in real time right before us.
00:35:12.280 Those people are Republicans now.
00:35:15.080 And it's – and I think it is a huge – it's a great thing for our party.
00:35:20.400 It is a great thing for our party.
00:35:22.120 But the – well, of course, I couldn't agree more.
00:35:24.880 I'm thrilled by it.
00:35:25.900 And I think Trump has forced the party to pay attention to its own voters in a way that Mitch McConnell was never going to do.
00:35:32.620 One downside is, though, that the money is with the Democrats.
00:35:35.960 75% of the nation's wealth is held by Biden voters.
00:35:40.100 They're the overclass.
00:35:42.060 Republicans are the underdog.
00:35:43.300 Just a fact.
00:35:45.320 Kamala Harris, one of your finance guys told me today spent three times what the Trump campaign was.
00:35:51.820 It was three to one, all in, independent expenditures included.
00:35:54.700 If Trump beats that, like, what's the lesson?
00:35:59.880 You're outspent three to one and you win?
00:36:02.220 Like, don't we have to rethink – I mean, that just seems like the biggest story ever told in politics.
00:36:07.000 There are so many things about Trump that if you try to – if you try to think about someone not him doing them, it is hard to imagine because of the larger-than-life personalities.
00:36:18.660 Yes.
00:36:19.420 That were he not that, he would not have been able to break the machine the way that he has.
00:36:25.300 Yes.
00:36:25.520 But I think because he has broken the machine, it has shown a new way.
00:36:30.120 It has shown a new path, a different way of doing things where you don't have to play by the same rules.
00:36:35.500 And, you know, for better or worse, this is a communications game, right?
00:36:41.000 And he's a communications master.
00:36:42.820 Anybody who's going to try to replicate what he has done and beat that system is going to have to be an incredible communicator.
00:36:47.620 That's for sure.
00:36:48.160 But they're going to have to be able to be willing to do it in a way that is not what is – so, like, let's think about the difference between Mitt Romney and Donald Trump.
00:36:55.220 They're obviously a zillion of them.
00:36:56.700 But one of them, just practically speaking as a campaigner, one of them tried desperately to do no harm.
00:37:04.500 I want to make no mistakes today.
00:37:06.480 Whatever I do, oh, my gosh, I just don't want to make any mistakes.
00:37:09.860 The other said, I might make 10 mistakes today, but I'm going to say what I actually think.
00:37:15.940 I'm going to say what I actually believe.
00:37:17.480 And I'm going to bet that there are enough people out there that are going to say, I like the authenticity, that it's actually okay if I disagreed with two of the 10 things that he said because I knew he actually meant it, as opposed to the politician who tried to do no harm and was a total fraud.
00:37:34.000 That's the ultimate takeaway from Trump is authenticity is the currency now.
00:37:38.760 So, if he – last question, and you're the person to answer it since you worked in government at a high level in some of the more complicated parts of government, I think it's fair to say.
00:37:49.020 Probably.
00:37:49.580 Trump gets elected tonight, let's say, inaugurated January 20th.
00:37:54.400 How does Washington respond?
00:37:57.040 How do the agencies respond?
00:37:58.300 I mean, every signal they've sent that I've picked up is we won't allow this.
00:38:02.000 We will not tolerate this.
00:38:03.720 We can't have this.
00:38:04.640 The body will reject the transplant, period.
00:38:07.440 So, like, what happens?
00:38:10.420 It's hard to imagine it not being that way, certainly in the parts of the government that you're talking about.
00:38:15.460 I think it's going to be a very –
00:38:16.800 You're talking about the meaningful parts, you know, the more secretive, the more significant parts, not the ag department.
00:38:20.960 Right.
00:38:22.020 DOJ, CIA, et cetera.
00:38:24.160 Yeah.
00:38:25.040 I think it's going to ultimately come down to when Donald Trump wins tonight, which I fully believe that he will, the people that he chooses to go in and represent his interest and the country's interest in those places are going to have to have the biggest stones of anybody who's ever walked into those places before.
00:38:42.840 Like, crazy.
00:38:43.520 And not be captured by the building, whatever the building may be.
00:38:50.200 Because I saw this even the last time.
00:38:51.620 A lot of people go in there with the best of intentions.
00:38:53.740 And then you realize how easy it is to just be like, you know what?
00:38:57.720 I got the title now, and I'm a big shot.
00:39:00.120 And it's actually just better if, like, let's just – if I walk out of here the day that I leave and it's the same as the day I came, that's not the worst thing.
00:39:07.400 Or their constituents can't become –
00:39:09.280 I mean, my dad worked in government.
00:39:10.300 I saw this even as a child.
00:39:12.420 The agency head's constituency becomes the employees of the agency.
00:39:16.920 That's exactly right.
00:39:17.760 Rather than the voters.
00:39:19.600 That's exactly right.
00:39:19.880 Than the country.
00:39:20.740 Yeah.
00:39:21.060 And they're loyal. 1.00
00:39:22.100 Like, we don't want to besmirch the reputation of whatever stupid agency he's running, right? 1.00
00:39:26.380 FBI, CIA. 1.00
00:39:28.200 Yeah.
00:39:28.340 Like, how do you find people who are ballsy enough to go against that very, very natural trend?
00:39:35.640 Well, I think the good news is we now have a little bit of a track record.
00:39:38.500 In 2016, you know, we didn't know what certain people are going to do.
00:39:41.860 Now you see who's been through the fire.
00:39:43.400 You see what people are going to do.
00:39:45.020 The other thing I think that we have learned is often making a change that is – let's call it a 75% change – produces the same backlash as trying to do a 10% change.
00:39:57.020 That's exactly – and so why are we going to be incremental about some of these things?
00:40:01.200 They're going to come for our throats no matter what on this stuff.
00:40:05.020 Well, at least we could do is, like, make it a meaningful change and make it worth it.
00:40:08.440 And I think that's the mindset that we've got to have if we get the opportunity.
00:40:11.880 I mean this.
00:40:12.720 I mean this.
00:40:13.280 You know that I mean this.
00:40:14.080 The fact that you're involved in this effort makes me feel a lot better about its chances of success.
00:40:18.060 Thank you.
00:40:18.620 I mean that.
00:40:19.260 So thank you.
00:40:19.800 Cliff Sims.
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00:40:21.960 Thank you.
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00:42:48.480 So one of the big things I think that's different about this run, Trump's third run for national office,
00:43:02.220 is that he's not doing it alone.
00:43:04.360 There is an army of people around him.
00:43:06.340 Of course, there in some sense always has been.
00:43:07.960 There have been a lot of disaffected voters who felt they're not being represented by their leaders who clustered around Donald Trump.
00:43:14.220 But there weren't a lot of, really, to be blunt, successful people from, say, business around Donald Trump.
00:43:21.700 Almost all of them are too vested in the current system to join him publicly.
00:43:26.620 And that has just changed in a huge way, most famously with Elon Musk.
00:43:31.500 But I would say right behind him is his friend who got there first, David Sachs, who joins me now.
00:43:38.920 David, thank you very much.
00:43:39.700 Hey, good to be here, Tucker.
00:43:40.860 For coming on.
00:43:41.720 So you have been a pretty, and I should say David Sachs is like a huge figure in tech world on the West Coast, San Francisco, South Bay.
00:43:50.460 And you've been a pretty consistent voice for conservatism, well, since you were at Stanford, I think.
00:43:58.100 But you have, I think you were the first person at your level in your world to come out and say, I'm voting for Donald Trump, and here's why.
00:44:06.940 First of all, why did you do that?
00:44:08.760 And what was the experience like?
00:44:10.240 What was the reaction that you got?
00:44:11.280 Well, I guess, you know, one of the things that I did starting a few years ago was I started doing this podcast, you know, the all-in podcast.
00:44:20.280 We started doing it pretty much at the beginning of COVID, I guess, in early 2020, just me and a few friends from the tech world, you know, fellow investors.
00:44:30.580 And so we started doing this weekly pod.
00:44:32.240 And when you do a podcast like that, you just kind of have to say what you think.
00:44:35.660 Otherwise, you got nothing to talk about.
00:44:36.740 I never understood.
00:44:37.920 First of all, I want to say, I didn't get his significance until he went on it.
00:44:41.040 And then every person I'd ever met watched it.
00:44:44.000 I just didn't understand the reach of it.
00:44:46.120 But if you want to reach, you know, successful people, you do the all-in podcast, I learned.
00:44:51.000 But why did you do that?
00:44:52.240 You've already got a lot going on.
00:44:54.020 Why did you start that podcast?
00:44:55.200 You know, we just sort of did it for fun.
00:44:56.720 There wasn't really a huge plan behind it.
00:44:59.060 It was just, you know, we were all kind of locked in our houses at the beginning of COVID.
00:45:02.680 It was really extreme in California.
00:45:04.480 You know, we couldn't do anything.
00:45:05.840 And so we just decided to do this podcast.
00:45:08.980 So it kind of happened organically.
00:45:12.320 You know, a couple of my friends, we, you know, we all play poker together.
00:45:15.400 And the original idea was it'd be kind of fun if we were just to, like, have cameras recording us playing poker.
00:45:20.620 That wasn't practical.
00:45:22.160 But we just started, you know, recording our conversations over Zoom and putting them out.
00:45:26.500 And then the thing kind of caught fire and became a little bit of a sensation.
00:45:29.820 Well, it certainly did.
00:45:31.600 And a sensation in a very specific way.
00:45:33.960 Like, you were speaking to an audience that was not reached by Trump, basically.
00:45:38.140 I sense a lot of your audience had, like, heard of Trump.
00:45:41.600 They knew they were supposed to hate Trump.
00:45:43.560 Yeah.
00:45:43.900 But they're kind of absorbed in their business.
00:45:45.420 I mean, that's my sense.
00:45:46.380 Right.
00:45:46.420 Yeah, no, it's first and foremost, it's a podcast about business, markets, technology, and politics.
00:45:52.400 But really, it's about whatever the big issues are that week.
00:45:55.480 You're probably, like, the first person your audience respects they'd ever heard endorse Trump.
00:46:01.100 I guess that's what I'm saying.
00:46:02.380 I think, yeah, I was a gateway drug for a lot of people.
00:46:06.480 Wait, can I start up to you?
00:46:07.900 So we're just looking at these Virginia numbers.
00:46:11.040 Virginia is basically a Democratic state, thanks to the federal government, thanks to Northern Virginia, which is a wasteland, I should say, with a Republican governor.
00:46:20.560 And yet, Trump is tied, as of right now, with 41% in Virginia.
00:46:29.340 He's down by one-tenth of a percentage point.
00:46:32.980 But he's basically tied with Harris.
00:46:35.220 This is kind of amazing.
00:46:37.240 Yeah, I think Virginia was a plus-10 state for Biden, wasn't it?
00:46:40.060 Yeah, right.
00:46:40.480 Was it actually plus-10?
00:46:41.360 I think it was plus-10.
00:46:42.120 And then, you know, I remember that number because when Youngkin won the state, it was such a big, you know, upset that he could overcome, you know, what had been a 10-point deficit.
00:46:51.060 So, yeah.
00:46:51.540 Look, if Trump is running even-ish in Virginia, that's great.
00:46:56.360 Yeah.
00:46:56.920 I mean, it's 41%.
00:46:58.600 So, who knows?
00:46:59.540 And I don't know where they're from.
00:47:00.560 I mean, that's one of those states where, you know, its components have nothing in common with each other.
00:47:05.280 Southern Virginia is nothing in common with Central Virginia, or certainly Northern Virginia, nothing in common with Southwest Virginia, et cetera.
00:47:10.520 You can see what a weirdly shaped state it is.
00:47:13.060 So, you come out for Trump, and you just basically say, I'm for Trump.
00:47:16.800 And you say that to a bunch of people who, I suspect, think they hate Trump.
00:47:21.680 Yeah.
00:47:22.220 What's the response?
00:47:23.440 Well, I think that it hasn't been as negative as it was, I think, in 2016 or 2020.
00:47:30.980 I think that, in fairness, there were a couple other folks who were trailblazers going back to 2016.
00:47:37.720 I mean, Peter Thiel, in particular, really was kind of far out there when he endorsed it.
00:47:42.120 Well, he spoke at the R&D in 16.
00:47:44.100 Yeah.
00:47:44.180 Yeah, that was a big deal.
00:47:46.000 And I think he took a lot of slings and arrows for that.
00:47:48.580 I think by the time that I did it, yeah, I probably was one of the first people this cycle to do it.
00:47:54.560 But a lot of people ended up kind of following, you know, and ended up, you know, at one point, I tweeted a list of kind of major figures in the tech industry who had endorsed Trump.
00:48:06.440 And it was like 20, 25 people.
00:48:08.740 So, there was a lot of people who came on board.
00:48:10.560 And then, obviously, Elon coming on board was a huge deal.
00:48:13.360 And he's gone all out.
00:48:14.940 He's a huge deal, isn't he?
00:48:15.560 Yeah, I think, look, I think that one of the reasons why so many people have come on board is because the last four years have just been so bad.
00:48:24.420 It's just been so egregious.
00:48:26.220 I mean, Biden and the Democrats came into office promising a return to normalcy.
00:48:31.500 This is what they called it.
00:48:33.000 What did we actually get?
00:48:34.260 They opened the borders. 0.54
00:48:35.500 I mean, just totally inexcusable.
00:48:38.300 There's no justification for that.
00:48:39.940 They gave us trillions of reckless spending, you know, and they wanted more.
00:48:46.600 Remember, Build Back Better was originally supposed to be something like $6 trillion.
00:48:49.660 Then it was $4.5 trillion.
00:48:50.700 Eventually, they got it, I think, $750 billion plus all the other trillions, the Inflation Reduction Act and all the rest.
00:48:56.520 So, we had that massive inflation.
00:48:59.440 We had the lawfare and the censorship, I think, alienated a lot of people in our world.
00:49:06.600 And, you know, because this is so fundamentally un-American to prosecute your political opponents.
00:49:13.540 I think this is the thing that kind of made me want to kind of go all in.
00:49:18.420 Well, I mean, yeah, I was conservative before, and I would have supported Trump or whoever the Republican candidate would have been.
00:49:23.540 But it made me want to do so much more to see that Trump was getting prosecuted.
00:49:27.560 They were trying to put him in prison.
00:49:29.540 They're trying to bankrupt him.
00:49:30.900 They're going after his kids.
00:49:32.140 I mean, it was just beyond— 0.99
00:49:33.760 Were you a rapist when he didn't rape anybody? 0.93
00:49:35.780 It's just beyond the pale. 0.94
00:49:37.580 And then, you know, and then they started going down the line.
00:49:40.660 It wasn't just Trump.
00:49:41.440 You can see what they're doing with Elon.
00:49:42.720 They're prosecuting his companies now, or the government's got all sorts of investigations into his companies, mainly because he restored Twitter X to being a free speech platform.
00:49:54.920 So, political retaliation is just now part of their playbook.
00:49:58.540 And if you let them get away with it, if they win this election, they're going to keep going with that.
00:50:04.320 The only way they stop is if they lose, and then they have to reconsider whether these tactics are alienating people.
00:50:09.940 But if they get away with it, they're like, hmm, okay, this seems to be working.
00:50:13.700 Let's just keep doing more of this.
00:50:14.780 And they have the temperament of animals.
00:50:17.500 Like, they don't believe in sportsmanship or fair play.
00:50:20.140 And so, once they start winning, they get blood on the tongue, and it makes them more vicious.
00:50:25.160 I have noticed that.
00:50:26.360 Yeah.
00:50:27.000 It is vicious.
00:50:27.480 So, last question.
00:50:29.240 I know you think about this a lot since you're in the tech world, but, like, can they, social media, if Trump wins, it'll be because of social media, new media.
00:50:35.960 There's no doubt about it.
00:50:36.960 You know, doing Rogan's endorsement is more significant than any other endorsement other than Elon's, I would say.
00:50:43.480 Can they allow social media to stay open in the way that they are particularly X to stay open? 1.00
00:50:49.340 Well, it's, it is a giant loophole in their control of the legacy of media.
00:50:57.100 And it's such a big loophole that it kind of threatens that whole, like, superstructure that has been created or has been revealed.
00:51:04.740 I think one of the things that's been most interesting about the last, I don't know, let's call it eight years, has been that, you know, initially when Trump first won, it was because of issues.
00:51:15.340 You know, it was, it was, you know, kind of, you could call it the old Papu-Cannon issues.
00:51:20.020 It was the border.
00:51:20.880 It was parade.
00:51:21.920 Yes.
00:51:22.380 It was the forever wars. 0.69
00:51:24.360 And Trump sort of pulled that sword out of the stone and used it to slay the Bush family dynasty and then the Clinton family dynasty.
00:51:32.820 And if Washington had just taken the note, if they just said, okay, we need to make an adjustment here in our policies, then the whole country would have been different.
00:51:42.500 But that's not how they reacted.
00:51:43.620 They said, we have to stop this no matter what, even though what did Trump really want it to do?
00:51:48.020 He just wanted a wall and he wanted to pull our troops out of wars we were losing anyway.
00:51:52.060 But that was just totally unacceptable to them.
00:51:54.020 And they reacted with lawfare, with hoaxes, the Russiagate hoax, the scandemic.
00:51:59.800 They, and it was a, it was a collaboration of not just the Democratic Party, it was the Democrats and the whole legacy media running, you know, the Russiagate hoax and the administrative state and the security state.
00:52:13.700 So, you know, what I think happened is that the opposition to Trump revealed itself to be something much greater than just, you know, a candidate.
00:52:23.640 It's kind of like, you know, to, you talked about in one of your speeches how this was like the hero's journey.
00:52:30.640 I mean, act one was sort of him, you know, winning the presidency.
00:52:34.980 Act two was the Empire Strikes Back.
00:52:36.680 And it revealed something about our government, that our government is not just the, you know, it's not just Trump versus Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
00:52:46.600 It's about this larger, they're really just a avatar for this larger superstructure, this marriage of sort of the, of government, the permanent government, the administrative state, the legacy media, the Democratic Party,
00:53:04.320 and then all of their various, you know, affiliates, whether it's, you know, the big tech platforms that are engaged in censorship or the Hollywood celebrities who are always endorsing.
00:53:16.240 So we kind of learned that we're up, I think we learned something about the nature of our government that, that we didn't know before.
00:53:23.980 I think, and this is what I think is so important about this election is it's not just about Trump versus Kamala Harris who's going to be the president.
00:53:31.560 It's going to be about how we're ruled.
00:53:33.480 I mean, are we basically ruled by these, these entities, these corrupt entities who are pretending to be a fair media or a neutral administrative state, but really are in cahoots together to, they're kind of, they're kind of a ruling class or ruling party that is, it's really the enemy of democracy.
00:54:00.700 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's not, they claim to be democracy, but they're, they're kind of the enemy of it.
00:54:05.900 It's basically a bureaucracy.
00:54:07.400 Elon tweeted a really funny meme today where there was, someone took a clip of all the legacy media types talking about the threat to democracy and had AI replace the word democracy with bureaucracy.
00:54:20.600 Yeah.
00:54:21.040 And it made perfect sense.
00:54:22.980 It made perfect sense.
00:54:24.800 They've just redefined the term.
00:54:26.220 Yeah.
00:54:26.380 If Kamala Harris can claim to represent joy, a woman who kissed her own husband with a mask on, then the Democratic Party's about democracy.
00:54:36.820 David Sachs, I think if Trump wins, it'll be in part due to you and your bravery.
00:54:42.220 So I just want to thank you.
00:54:43.440 Thank you.
00:54:43.940 And I hope he does that.
00:54:45.600 I'm still around.
00:54:46.080 We can go celebrate.
00:54:47.340 Yeah, for sure.
00:54:48.360 Thank you.
00:54:48.740 Thank you, Tucker.
00:54:49.240 So, uh, among the many members of this new coalition, um, sort of look ahead, you know, who's going to run the Republican Party, uh, in 10 years, uh, is someone else from completely outside of politics who I don't think had any plans on getting into politics.
00:55:11.580 Um, and who joins us now, Vivek Ramaswamy, who's really, you almost never see, this is not flattery, it's real.
00:55:17.880 You almost never see anyone run for president, lose, and become enhanced.
00:55:22.460 It's like everybody who runs, you know, Jeb Bush, who was widely regarded as a really smart guy until he ran for president. 1.00
00:55:28.800 We realized he's actually kind of stupid. 0.97
00:55:30.780 Um, everybody who runs and loses, Ron DeSantis, poor Ron DeSantis, not attacking him, but he was diminished. 1.00
00:55:37.280 You were enhanced.
00:55:38.120 I'm not quite sure how you did that, but it was amazing.
00:55:40.160 Well, thank you, man.
00:55:40.880 I, it's true.
00:55:41.740 No, it's true.
00:55:42.380 I also hope that, uh, I'm not running the Republican Party 10 years from now because our country's in great shape in about four years, maybe in about like one year.
00:55:48.820 And, uh, and we can all find other productive things to do beyond this, this world of politics.
00:55:53.520 But that's, I think, um, you know, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but it's feeling pretty darn good.
00:55:58.500 Well, it is.
00:55:58.940 And I, and I hate to turn to, well, I guess now that I no longer work for a TV network, I can turn to whatever I want.
00:56:03.900 Um, but I hate to go turn to fake numbers.
00:56:06.480 Yeah.
00:56:06.700 But in the absence of real numbers, let's dive into the fake numbers for a moment, if you don't mind.
00:56:10.060 Yeah, fine.
00:56:10.160 Um, here are the Wisconsin betting odds.
00:56:13.760 Did I really just say that?
00:56:14.780 I feel so low.
00:56:15.620 I think betting odds are a better place to look.
00:56:17.000 It's probably the ABC Ipsos poll.
00:56:19.880 Yeah.
00:56:19.980 Okay.
00:56:20.480 Uh, we are now on the question of who will win the election in Wisconsin for president.
00:56:26.360 We are Donald Trump, 56, Carmela Harris, Kamala Harris, 44.
00:56:32.660 Um, oh, and it's changing even as we speak.
00:56:34.920 Like 56, 44.
00:56:36.100 Well, it's readjusted.
00:56:37.420 Whatever.
00:56:37.680 It was like, it was like, that was as of like 10 minutes ago or something.
00:56:40.580 Right.
00:56:40.880 It's just like, it's rapidly.
00:56:42.020 I think seconds ago.
00:56:43.260 Yeah.
00:56:43.460 So, um, you think he's got a shot at Wisconsin?
00:56:47.180 Yeah, I think so.
00:56:47.880 And I think we'll know Wisconsin probably before Pennsylvania based on how long they're actually
00:56:51.200 saying the ballots are going to take to count.
00:56:53.060 So it might be awful.
00:56:54.240 Cause is it because Pennsylvania is such a long state?
00:56:56.600 Yeah.
00:56:56.820 I don't know that that doesn't seem like a very satisfying explanation.
00:56:59.140 Oh, okay.
00:56:59.760 In the year 2024.
00:57:00.980 We're able to catch rockets.
00:57:01.640 Tennessee is also a long state too, right?
00:57:03.500 It kind of is too, right?
00:57:04.600 We were able to catch rockets falling out of outer space, returning to earth, but we
00:57:07.780 can't count some votes that are submitted in the same rates that we did 40 years ago.
00:57:11.720 Actually, it's such an insult to the third world. 1.00
00:57:13.880 Yeah, it actually kind of is.
00:57:14.780 Because the third world does it well. 1.00
00:57:16.380 You know, actually for all the stuff about Puerto Rico recently, I went to Puerto Rico.
00:57:19.580 I actually like Puerto Rico.
00:57:20.260 Spent a lot of time there.
00:57:21.460 And they did their elections really well.
00:57:23.520 Single day voting on election day.
00:57:25.320 It's a holiday for the entire island.
00:57:26.820 Yeah.
00:57:27.280 Paper ballots.
00:57:28.140 And they actually make you like that glass of water.
00:57:30.260 It's like a die.
00:57:31.080 You take your finger in.
00:57:31.960 You make sure that they check it like an amusement park to make sure you don't vote at multiple
00:57:35.040 locations.
00:57:36.020 People trust the elections.
00:57:36.840 They're secure.
00:57:37.260 They get the results quickly.
00:57:38.160 Oh, yeah.
00:57:38.520 Everyone's got a purple finger.
00:57:39.660 I've seen.
00:57:40.220 You know, I think that I think that we can learn something from Puerto Rico and how they
00:57:43.520 run their elections.
00:57:44.100 And I think that we are the ones actually doing it.
00:57:46.200 If a country that can't produce reliable electricity can have free and fair elections, then I think
00:57:52.720 we can too.
00:57:53.460 Well, I think that we're going the other direction.
00:57:55.180 They're trying to also make sure that we're not also able to put electricity here.
00:57:58.160 Right.
00:57:58.340 I'm laughing.
00:57:59.180 It's just messing up our elections is the first step to getting to also not running our
00:58:02.480 electricity by shutting down our coal mines and not fracking for natural gas.
00:58:05.260 But we're maybe about seven hours from from changing that for the country.
00:58:09.120 So why would Barack Obama and I'm sorry to be cynical, but I spent, you know, all eight
00:58:14.220 years of his presidency in the United States watching carefully.
00:58:17.720 Why would he tweet out like it's it's a great thing that it's going to take days to find
00:58:21.800 out who the new president is.
00:58:25.260 Election workers are heroes.
00:58:27.140 Respect them.
00:58:28.020 Thank them.
00:58:28.680 Don't share things before checking your sources.
00:58:30.900 I'm trying not to use the effort on on YouTube. 0.96
00:58:33.180 But I'm like, how dare you, Barack Obama, you liar, lecture me about accuracy and then 0.95
00:58:38.740 let the process run its course. 0.88
00:58:40.180 It takes time to count every ballot.
00:58:41.700 Well, not in India.
00:58:42.400 It doesn't.
00:58:43.120 Oh, this came out today, though.
00:58:44.760 Yes.
00:58:45.020 So I think it's clear why this is coming out today.
00:58:47.300 So Obama is telling us like it's going to take forever to you know, we may have leaks
00:58:52.700 in the pipes and polling stations.
00:58:56.180 If Kamala actually was surging, this tweet would not have gone out.
00:58:59.380 So I mean, whatever.
00:59:00.000 We all know it.
00:59:00.460 Politics is a game of self-interest. 0.99
00:59:02.100 They don't want to look like fools at the end of this.
00:59:04.300 If it goes longer, there's some probability that things could change in their direction.
00:59:08.580 So, yeah, I mean, I think he's he's tweeting according to his incentives.
00:59:11.480 I think that again, not well, he is.
00:59:13.060 You're exactly you're exactly right.
00:59:14.400 And I don't mean to feign shock.
00:59:16.300 I've I watched this guy for eight years.
00:59:18.500 But have you ever seen an election go into overtime and the Republican win?
00:59:24.340 No, not that I can remember.
00:59:25.800 You've been around long.
00:59:26.620 I don't think so.
00:59:27.540 No.
00:59:28.080 Yeah.
00:59:29.060 I don't think this one's going.
00:59:29.940 I think that, you know, Trump uses expression.
00:59:32.120 I think it was smart.
00:59:32.700 Too big to rig.
00:59:33.340 I think we are.
00:59:34.780 It certainly feels to me on our way to get there.
00:59:37.200 I mean, here's Chris Wallace.
00:59:38.420 Here's someone I've never quoted. 0.97
00:59:39.900 Chris Wallace is one of the most loathsome women in television. 1.00
00:59:45.240 But let me just quote this headline. 0.71
00:59:46.960 CNN host Chris Wallace argues Kamala Harris would win would be, quote, a miracle given exit 1.00
00:59:52.600 polls.
00:59:53.900 Hmm.
00:59:54.880 Well, I don't think a miracle is coming for her tonight.
00:59:58.420 And, you know, I mean, look, I think that one of the risks I mean, I feel I feel really
01:00:02.140 good about tonight.
01:00:03.020 And that's great.
01:00:03.740 And hopefully wake up tomorrow morning, maybe even.
01:00:05.620 And, you know, we know that Donald Trump's the next president.
01:00:07.820 That's the start line.
01:00:09.120 Right.
01:00:09.380 And so if you look at just every way this machine, we just traced the last year.
01:00:14.740 Right.
01:00:15.020 What is this machine tried to do?
01:00:16.660 Civil suits first.
01:00:17.760 Yeah.
01:00:18.040 Then criminal suits.
01:00:19.140 Yeah.
01:00:19.460 Then extrajudicial attempts to remove him from the ballot.
01:00:22.300 Then more extrajudicial attempts on his life.
01:00:26.260 One, not one, but then two.
01:00:28.100 So they've tried every trick and that hasn't worked.
01:00:30.280 And he is still going to win.
01:00:31.660 It looks like I don't want to counter chickens here, but resoundingly, what's the next remaining
01:00:36.400 step is to impede the administration.
01:00:39.040 And there's multiple ways to impede it.
01:00:40.180 You can impede it through the front door.
01:00:41.540 You can impede it through the back door.
01:00:43.140 And so I think that in some ways, this idea and I think the little bit of the feigned
01:00:47.800 retreat, the PSYOP self-consciously and all of this, even if we're not aware of it,
01:00:52.120 is that somehow November 5th is like, yes, then we've done it.
01:00:55.860 Or November 6th, we wake up next tomorrow morning.
01:00:57.920 We think we've done it.
01:00:59.000 And I think that's just us getting started.
01:01:01.080 And I think the real fight in some ways either begins or continues.
01:01:04.680 Totally right.
01:01:05.000 And so that's kind of, I think, the check that I want on all this.
01:01:07.480 Can I ask you a personal question since, you know, we're on the internet, we can say whatever
01:01:10.580 we want.
01:01:11.160 Yeah.
01:01:11.620 How did you wind up, you and Trump have such an easy relationship.
01:01:17.280 He seems to like you.
01:01:18.220 You seem to like him.
01:01:19.020 You ran against each other. 0.97
01:01:20.720 But you don't do the ass kissy thing that a lot of people do. 0.98
01:01:23.800 I can't. 0.99
01:01:24.640 Well, OK, but I mean, I watch like Mike Pompeo is like giving Trump a tongue bath every time. 0.62
01:01:30.380 Oh, Donald Trump, your hands are so large or whatever. 0.87
01:01:32.560 There's just like repulsive and it's transactional and false, obviously, as Mike Pompeo is.
01:01:37.280 But you don't do that. 0.99
01:01:38.140 You never kiss ass. 0.99
01:01:39.780 You're but you're direct. 0.98
01:01:41.020 And you seem to get along.
01:01:42.700 How how did you so far?
01:01:44.720 Get along with the guy you ran against, I guess.
01:01:46.600 Yeah.
01:01:46.740 I mean, I think one of the things that I committed myself to in the race is the easy thing to 0.95
01:01:50.960 do would have been to slam Donald Trump for something that he said that you disagreed
01:01:54.040 with.
01:01:54.440 Yeah.
01:01:54.620 And for me, he actually was objectively the best president of the 21st century.
01:01:58.860 And people said, how could you run against him and say that?
01:02:00.580 Well, first of all, like that's like the easiest thing you could possibly say.
01:02:03.280 You got George Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
01:02:06.180 So it sounded really great.
01:02:07.320 But it's like it's like the most obvious statement I could have made.
01:02:09.560 And people said, oh, is he running as some type of, you know, Trump allies in the race?
01:02:14.040 So to the contrary, I think we started from a good place.
01:02:16.140 The hottest Supreme Court justice.
01:02:18.060 The best caterer in Tajikistan.
01:02:20.040 Yeah, but but that understates actually how good of a job he did.
01:02:25.100 And I think it's our candor that allowed us to build a pretty good friendship afterwards
01:02:28.540 as well.
01:02:29.240 I've gotten I knew him for a while, but we've only gotten to know each other really well
01:02:32.600 after I left the race this year.
01:02:34.280 And yeah, I don't I'm not a natural sycophant.
01:02:37.400 And I think that Donald Trump actually appreciates having people around him.
01:02:40.320 You know what?
01:02:40.800 I agree with that.
01:02:41.860 And I respect him more because of that, because that's not the media narrative that you get
01:02:44.780 about him.
01:02:45.820 But what I've seen is he's somebody who wants to be challenged.
01:02:47.940 He likes to actually, you know, when he asks you for a question and you're just giving
01:02:50.920 some sort of nodding response, that's not helping anybody versus sharing what your actual
01:02:55.220 opinion is.
01:02:56.460 Now, you know, he'll he'll he'll bust my ball sometimes for he'll say, talk, you talk
01:03:00.960 too fast or give me a headache.
01:03:01.900 But he's joking around with me.
01:03:03.660 And, you know, I think that that's part of what's made us have a no, I think that's
01:03:07.680 absolutely right.
01:03:08.420 I think it's really insightful what you just said.
01:03:09.960 Trump does love the butt kissers, but he likes the people who don't bust butt kiss even
01:03:14.260 more.
01:03:14.580 I think I actually I think that's true.
01:03:17.040 I think that's true.
01:03:17.820 Yeah.
01:03:17.980 And good for him.
01:03:18.860 Yeah.
01:03:19.440 I expect him more for it, man.
01:03:20.540 So when do you think I'm sorry to ask you about politics, but you ran.
01:03:24.320 Yeah, I know.
01:03:24.800 When do you think we know?
01:03:27.500 You know, I mean, so, hey, I should tell you, there's a lot of things that I think I
01:03:30.120 have authority on.
01:03:31.040 Horse race politics stuff is absolutely not it.
01:03:33.240 But I think probably tomorrow morning, I think Wisconsin, we know by tomorrow morning.
01:03:36.780 So I think basically it'll go Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin.
01:03:42.300 And then that's basically game over.
01:03:43.920 So Pennsylvania will still take a long time.
01:03:45.100 And I think we're going to win Pennsylvania.
01:03:46.660 Credit to a lot of Elon and Scott Preston and a lot of people who have laid a lot of
01:03:49.980 groundwork there.
01:03:50.760 Not necessarily the traditional party machinery, but the outside of party machinery that's
01:03:54.800 laid a lot of groundwork there.
01:03:55.980 It's not the traditional party.
01:03:56.720 I mean, if you look at look at Arizona, I'll give a lot of credit to Turning Point.
01:03:59.220 I think they've done a really good job out there.
01:04:00.980 Incredible.
01:04:01.520 I mean, I visited them recently.
01:04:02.500 The analytics were really I mean, just like as like a business person looking into the
01:04:06.760 rigor with which they're running it there.
01:04:08.420 And to some extent in Wisconsin, too, I'll give Turning Point a lot of credit for those
01:04:12.200 two regions as well.
01:04:13.620 But who cares about who gets the credit for what?
01:04:15.120 It's the objective.
01:04:15.580 Well, it's interesting.
01:04:16.500 No, it doesn't matter because it's not the party that did it.
01:04:19.180 You learn for the future.
01:04:20.040 Yeah.
01:04:20.240 It's not the RNC.
01:04:21.000 It's Charlie Kirk, who's like 30 and doesn't have a college degree.
01:04:24.680 And it's like turns out to be better.
01:04:26.540 Kind of a genius at this, actually.
01:04:27.920 I absolutely agree with that.
01:04:29.440 And I think a really good guy.
01:04:30.960 But so that's meaningful, though.
01:04:33.540 So if the biggest players in all of this, you had no background in politics at all.
01:04:39.460 Right.
01:04:40.520 Elon Musk.
01:04:42.060 Totally.
01:04:42.680 Charlie Kirk.
01:04:43.620 I mean, these are just people like Donald Trump himself.
01:04:46.000 Totally.
01:04:46.360 Who came from outside and have really.
01:04:48.420 Do you think the Republican Party has permanently changed?
01:04:51.000 Yeah, I do.
01:04:51.940 I think that this is a redefining election.
01:04:53.940 I think that's what makes this win even more exciting is that the Republican Party, to use a Kamala-ism, we ain't going back.
01:04:59.780 You know, I think that that's that's true here.
01:05:02.080 And that will be one of the parts of this victory where.
01:05:05.160 Like, I'm just thinking about.
01:05:06.540 I mean, we're again here talking.
01:05:07.900 Let's just talk frankly.
01:05:08.800 Yeah.
01:05:10.820 I was on the stage with a lot of people who were of an old garden variety stuffed suit Republican mold from the past.
01:05:18.780 Yeah.
01:05:19.080 And it's not taking anything away from them.
01:05:20.220 I mean, people come in the range of politics.
01:05:22.220 That's what their career has been.
01:05:23.220 I think the Republican Party of the future is going to be defined by people coming in from the outside who have a fresh perspective, who are able to speak hard truths to Democrats, but also to yesterday's Republicans as well.
01:05:35.120 And we become, I hope, this party of just practiced evolution.
01:05:39.120 We're just repeatedly evolving in a way that it doesn't become stultified, doesn't just become tied up to dogmas.
01:05:47.120 And this is something I've actually even, not to get too philosophical, but I don't want to see the America First movement do what the neocon movement did for 20 years, which is.
01:05:54.800 And I see some of this, right?
01:05:56.520 But we're the party of the working class to some guy who, like, 10 years ago was saying something else, but doesn't know why he's saying it today.
01:06:03.020 I don't want people saying things out of habit.
01:06:05.120 No, that's right.
01:06:05.580 Like, we want people who understand why they're saying them.
01:06:07.940 And, you know, people like Elon and people like Bobby Kennedy, who I respect, and JD is an outsider.
01:06:12.020 Donald Trump is the ultimate outsider in this.
01:06:14.360 I think that it's going to take people coming from the outside who are thinking people, who, by the way, all of us, who I just named, don't agree with each other on 100% of issues.
01:06:22.500 Right.
01:06:22.720 And that's cool.
01:06:23.580 But that, I think, is going to be the character of the new Republican Party.
01:06:27.640 It is new.
01:06:28.180 And this really is going to, and this is a concern for me, wreck Mitch McConnell's retirement party, I think.
01:06:34.780 You know what I mean?
01:06:35.420 Yeah.
01:06:36.500 I just wasn't around in politics enough to know enough about that legacy to even care about it.
01:06:41.320 So let me just bottom line it by saying, that's a good thing.
01:06:45.120 It just doesn't matter to me.
01:06:47.240 Vivek, I think we're going to have a long conversation later this week.
01:06:50.300 I'm looking forward to it.
01:06:50.760 We're going to know, I really am too, about what comes next.
01:06:53.540 Thank you.
01:06:54.100 Take it easy.
01:06:54.640 Good to see you, man.
01:06:55.120 Thank you.
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01:10:34.420 All right, so nobody, nobody has done more live events.
01:10:42.580 No one's been on the road more.
01:10:44.640 No one has asked for less credit than our next guest, Donald Trump Jr.
01:10:53.640 Don, how many events have you done?
01:10:55.260 I actually don't know.
01:10:56.460 I know October 2020, I did 104.
01:10:58.860 So I imagine I matched that, maybe did a little bit more this time around,
01:11:03.020 because that was like peak COVID and no one was willing to do stuff.
01:11:05.660 So I can't tell if I did more or if I did a little less,
01:11:08.420 because it was more than just me on the road.
01:11:11.520 But no, it feels really good right now, Tucker.
01:11:14.420 I mean, I died two days ago, but, you know, it's just...
01:11:17.480 You're like Joe Biden right now.
01:11:18.820 It's caffeine, nicotine, testosterone, and adrenaline.
01:11:21.860 That's all I got.
01:11:23.000 That's all I got.
01:11:23.740 I don't have a pulse or a heart rate, you know, it's fun.
01:11:27.160 You don't need FSRIs or Benzo.
01:11:29.140 You have the drugs you just mentioned.
01:11:30.900 I got the drugs.
01:11:32.380 So how does it... 0.99
01:11:33.640 I'm sorry, I've asked every person the same stupid question, 0.98
01:11:36.260 but it is election night, so I can't control my... 0.98
01:11:37.920 I got you.
01:11:38.820 I mean, where do you think we actually are?
01:11:41.220 Listen, I've done this three times now.
01:11:42.900 I feel this is by far, you know, the most comfortable I've been on election.
01:11:47.980 I'm never comfortable.
01:11:48.900 You know me.
01:11:49.280 I sort of function like I'm always three points behind,
01:11:51.200 whether I'm 10 points behind or whether I'm 10 points ahead.
01:11:54.620 Some of it looks really good, man.
01:11:55.980 When I see, you know, the rural vote, you know, turning up.
01:11:58.700 When I see...
01:11:59.400 I mean, we just won Miami-Dade by 10 points.
01:12:02.820 Like, it's never been read.
01:12:04.580 Ever been read.
01:12:05.080 We won it by 10 points.
01:12:06.020 So Florida, you know, just a landslide.
01:12:08.320 I think you lost it by 30, right?
01:12:10.100 Yeah, we lost it by 30 in 16, and we won it by 10.
01:12:12.760 A 40-point swing in, you know, eight years.
01:12:15.920 That's pretty significant.
01:12:18.120 Now, you know, that's a different demographic.
01:12:20.020 Those are people who came from Cuba and Venezuela who are like,
01:12:22.580 yeah, we don't want to revert back to that.
01:12:23.900 I don't know if that translates, you know, to the Hispanic population
01:12:26.480 throughout the rest of the country.
01:12:27.640 But, you know, something's definitely going on.
01:12:29.500 It feels like, you know, North Carolina,
01:12:31.380 where we can actually have reasonable and fair elections,
01:12:33.980 where we have rules that aren't insane.
01:12:37.520 You know, Florida, North Carolina, you know, we can do really well.
01:12:41.980 I mean, Georgia's looking good right now.
01:12:43.460 And so it's going to come down to, you know, one of the blue walls.
01:12:47.340 I mean, do you think it's fair to say that you're going to do better
01:12:49.840 in states with voter ID laws?
01:12:51.680 I think without question.
01:12:53.500 So what does that tell you?
01:12:56.320 There's a reason the other side doesn't want these things.
01:12:58.840 I mean, it's not to preserve democracy.
01:13:00.160 It's to preserve their ability to cheat more easily.
01:13:02.620 Of course.
01:13:03.200 Like, no one doesn't believe that.
01:13:04.660 I mean, I imagine in their heart of hearts,
01:13:07.080 even Democrats understand that.
01:13:08.760 They're just OK with the results.
01:13:10.080 I mean, you know, not exactly preserving democracy,
01:13:12.320 but, you know, that's always been a soundbite anyway, right?
01:13:16.380 So at what point will you know the outcome, do you think?
01:13:19.600 You know what?
01:13:20.060 I don't know.
01:13:20.880 I just want people to stay in line.
01:13:22.900 I want them to vote.
01:13:24.600 You'll know tonight if it's decisive,
01:13:25.960 if people stay in line, if our guys show up.
01:13:28.160 What I don't want to do is give them an excuse to say,
01:13:31.440 well, we're going to count for two more weeks.
01:13:33.160 So we got to double check this.
01:13:34.120 And then they show up with, you know,
01:13:35.040 a trailer full of ballots that are only filled in for the president
01:13:37.320 because, you know, that's all they had time to fill in
01:13:39.420 in some warehouse, you know, outside of the district.
01:13:42.980 But like I said, I mean, it's by far the best I've ever felt going in.
01:13:48.520 We just got to finish this thing.
01:13:52.480 How, looking back, I mean, it's not over yet,
01:13:55.280 but like, let's say it's three days from now
01:13:57.100 and Donald Trump's the president again.
01:14:00.320 What were the moments, do you think,
01:14:02.780 the pivotal moments in the campaign?
01:14:04.240 Oof, man, there's so many.
01:14:07.540 Yeah, there are.
01:14:08.100 You know, honestly, the pivotal moments of the thing.
01:14:10.340 The craziest thing I've ever, oh, it takes Ohio.
01:14:12.280 All right, well, let's see that.
01:14:13.240 I mean, now I'll be curious to see what that is.
01:14:15.080 Hopefully we can grow because, you know,
01:14:16.180 the reality is I want to also make sure we bring,
01:14:17.840 you know, in Ohio, Bernie Marino over the finish line there
01:14:20.640 because I don't want the presidency
01:14:22.560 without the Senate and the House.
01:14:24.400 I've been there, I've done it.
01:14:25.060 But also, Sherrod Brown in Ohio
01:14:26.860 is the biggest fraud in the United States Senate 0.99
01:14:28.880 and really just a loathsome person. 0.96
01:14:31.000 Actually, it's probably John Tester in Montana. 0.91
01:14:33.020 Well, he's done.
01:14:34.240 I hope so.
01:14:35.000 And if Tim Sheehy pulls that off,
01:14:36.320 I think that's great. 0.96
01:14:37.540 But yeah, I mean, all these clowns, 0.99
01:14:39.020 they're running, hey, I'm with Trump. 0.99
01:14:40.380 I'm like, well, no, you voted to impeach him twice.
01:14:41.900 You voted with Joe Biden 99% of the time.
01:14:44.040 Like, you're not with Trump.
01:14:45.320 But, you know, they understand where these people are.
01:14:48.120 You know, and in those, you know, state races,
01:14:50.660 you know, they're basically lying to them
01:14:52.440 on TV on a daily basis.
01:14:53.940 I understand it's politics,
01:14:54.880 but it's just a flagrant lie.
01:14:57.360 Raina was up.
01:14:58.680 There's the libertarian who,
01:14:59.800 I think his campaign was paid for
01:15:00.980 by the Democrats, of course.
01:15:02.440 Oh, I'm sure it was.
01:15:03.080 Always.
01:15:03.360 It always is.
01:15:04.500 So, yeah.
01:15:05.240 By the way, if you say you're for workers
01:15:06.740 and then let in 15 million people into the country.
01:15:10.140 You're not actually for workers.
01:15:11.200 No, you're not.
01:15:12.320 Or Americans or anything other than, 0.93
01:15:14.980 you know, candidly abject chaos.
01:15:17.400 Oh, totally.
01:15:17.960 And death.
01:15:18.480 But, you know, that's the reality.
01:15:20.160 That's why I don't understand
01:15:21.000 about the Democrat Party,
01:15:21.900 because they've shifted so far
01:15:22.860 from their working class roots.
01:15:24.520 Yes.
01:15:24.860 You know, now it's like, you know,
01:15:25.940 I don't know.
01:15:26.400 Rather than cater to,
01:15:27.400 I don't know,
01:15:28.700 like those working class people 1.00
01:15:30.260 or like your citizens.
01:15:31.720 It's like, no, no, no.
01:15:32.420 We're not going to do that.
01:15:33.480 We're just going to replace them.
01:15:34.940 Yeah.
01:15:35.060 You know, and I know, you know,
01:15:36.260 a few months ago,
01:15:36.980 that was really controversial,
01:15:37.960 but it's like, well,
01:15:39.200 what else could it possibly be?
01:15:40.660 Like, why?
01:15:41.420 You know, when they let in 20 million people
01:15:43.460 and 600,000 of whom are criminals
01:15:45.280 and 13,000 are murderers
01:15:46.740 and 16,000 are rapists,
01:15:48.140 like they know that.
01:15:49.540 These are Joe Biden's, you know,
01:15:51.140 and Kamala Harris's.
01:15:51.960 Texas has been called.
01:15:53.040 Sorry to interrupt you.
01:15:53.860 Yeah.
01:15:54.000 And it looks like Ted Cruz
01:15:55.060 is going to win big down there too.
01:15:56.160 I don't know why.
01:15:56.940 Texas may be nervous.
01:15:58.120 I mean, there are just so many
01:15:59.440 illegal aliens in Texas right now.
01:16:01.620 The problem, the real reality 0.89
01:16:03.540 is we've just flipped Hispanics over there. 0.77
01:16:05.440 They're the people that are actually,
01:16:06.540 and I've done events down on the border
01:16:08.180 and all of this.
01:16:09.040 And 56% reporting Ted Cruz
01:16:12.940 at 51.3, Colin Allred.
01:16:16.160 I mean, more money spent for Colin Allred.
01:16:17.740 Like every actor in Hollywood
01:16:19.520 sent money to Colin Allred.
01:16:20.880 Well, and that was the same thing.
01:16:21.860 I was with Ted Cruz, you know,
01:16:23.180 back the last time he ran six years ago,
01:16:25.600 you know, and I was with him on the bus.
01:16:27.560 I was like, hey, can you help us out?
01:16:28.460 And, you know, this is, you know,
01:16:29.420 when it was still a little bit,
01:16:30.420 you know, rougher and, you know,
01:16:31.860 but we had a good relationship by them
01:16:33.140 and him and I sort of got along pretty quickly.
01:16:34.620 He was, he was sort of quick to come around
01:16:36.200 actually after sort of a rough primary.
01:16:38.000 Because it was always bitter.
01:16:38.760 You know, I know.
01:16:39.200 And at 16, it was brutal.
01:16:40.780 And then, you know, Tommy Hicks,
01:16:41.940 my good buddy.
01:16:42.500 And I, you know, all my,
01:16:43.240 because of hunting, basically all my friends,
01:16:45.240 you know, half of my friends are Texas
01:16:46.680 and they're basically like,
01:16:47.940 hey, you want to come?
01:16:48.600 Which, what the hell was it?
01:16:49.940 It was that Bill Crystal,
01:16:51.520 like, I don't even know
01:16:52.980 the name of the group anymore.
01:16:53.720 They're so irrelevant.
01:16:55.680 The hell is the name of that group
01:16:56.700 that they have?
01:16:57.640 Bill Crystal's group.
01:17:00.380 I don't know.
01:17:01.040 One of those rubber chicken think tank,
01:17:02.560 like Washington, D.C.
01:17:03.480 Oh, just like Hudson Institute or AEI.
01:17:05.560 AEI, you know, it was their dinner.
01:17:07.300 And I was like, I don't want to go to this.
01:17:08.540 Like, I have no interest.
01:17:09.040 They're like, no, you got to come.
01:17:10.000 And it was Ray Washburn and Tommy Hicks.
01:17:11.380 And they basically stuck me at a table
01:17:13.000 and I'm looking around
01:17:14.740 and everyone's sort of laughing.
01:17:15.900 And I'm like, I don't, I'm not,
01:17:17.180 I'm like, why are they laughing?
01:17:18.000 I look down and like the place card
01:17:19.300 next to me is Ted Cruz.
01:17:20.380 And this is like, you know,
01:17:21.540 a month after that rough primary.
01:17:23.020 It was pretty brutal.
01:17:24.320 And so.
01:17:25.280 The funniest primary ever.
01:17:27.520 Rafael Cruz killing JFK.
01:17:29.920 It was wild.
01:17:31.200 It was wild.
01:17:32.180 You know, and, you know,
01:17:32.960 we sat down and it's awkward at first
01:17:34.440 and we started talking.
01:17:35.300 And, you know, at the end of this dinner,
01:17:36.920 I was like, hey, you know,
01:17:38.600 Ted, we're all going back
01:17:39.320 to the Trump Hotel
01:17:39.980 back at the time when we had that in D.C.
01:17:41.920 You want to join us for a couple of drinks?
01:17:43.280 And he was like, yeah.
01:17:45.140 And you know what?
01:17:45.880 Honestly, Ted Cruz
01:17:47.160 with a couple of beers in him.
01:17:48.140 I was like, was a super funny guy.
01:17:50.140 Like we had a great time.
01:17:50.820 He took every selfie that was asked.
01:17:52.020 I'm like, we had a good relationship
01:17:53.140 from that point.
01:17:54.420 But I was with him.
01:17:55.640 I guess it was 18.
01:17:56.700 And that was even before the election.
01:17:58.120 Oh, yeah, it was before the election.
01:18:00.080 And so, you know,
01:18:00.960 we became pretty friendly,
01:18:02.480 you know, and then 18.
01:18:04.080 He's like, hey, can you come down?
01:18:04.860 And we did like five or six events one day,
01:18:06.600 like a week from, you know,
01:18:08.100 his his race.
01:18:09.780 And he gets his like fundraising numbers.
01:18:11.860 It was like 13 million dollars.
01:18:13.560 He goes, we just set the record ever
01:18:15.720 for like an in-state race.
01:18:17.120 Look at this.
01:18:17.500 This is amazing.
01:18:18.080 And, you know,
01:18:18.980 Beta O'Rourke
01:18:19.720 got his numbers
01:18:21.720 like three hours later
01:18:22.680 and we just got out
01:18:23.340 done with another event.
01:18:24.300 And like we get the reporting,
01:18:25.360 like, like
01:18:26.160 Beto just did 33 million.
01:18:28.180 And it's like,
01:18:28.460 oh, yeah.
01:18:29.020 And like he set the record
01:18:30.560 and they tripled it plus
01:18:31.840 like kind of thing.
01:18:32.600 And it was like,
01:18:33.300 oh, man.
01:18:34.780 I mean, that's
01:18:35.300 and that's what we're up against.
01:18:36.340 And when you look at any one of these
01:18:37.540 right now,
01:18:38.280 it's three to one.
01:18:39.200 Oh, I believe it.
01:18:40.240 And it was three to, you know,
01:18:41.800 and when you think about it,
01:18:42.900 this is not like some unknown race.
01:18:44.540 This is a Texas senator
01:18:45.680 in a Republican state
01:18:46.740 getting outspent three to one.
01:18:48.220 Some of these are five to one.
01:18:49.560 Some of these congressional races,
01:18:50.660 they're ten to one.
01:18:52.600 It's almost hard to believe,
01:18:54.080 you know,
01:18:54.680 we can compete,
01:18:55.500 you know,
01:18:57.000 against some of that insanity.
01:18:58.040 And none of it's from in-state.
01:18:59.340 None of it represents the values
01:19:00.440 of the people who are actually voting.
01:19:01.540 I think the presidential race
01:19:02.540 is three to one.
01:19:03.480 Oh, 100%.
01:19:04.200 I mean, she spent a billion dollars. 0.91
01:19:06.100 That's why when people were doing like,
01:19:07.240 well, they moved, you know,
01:19:08.140 two dollars out of North Carolina.
01:19:09.780 I'm like,
01:19:10.100 they really mismanaged their funds
01:19:12.300 that badly that they
01:19:13.240 they got to pull out
01:19:14.480 two million out of a billion
01:19:15.760 from North Carolina.
01:19:17.080 But if someone,
01:19:17.760 if a candidate's being
01:19:18.620 outspent three to one
01:19:20.400 and all the money
01:19:22.000 is coming from Hollywood
01:19:22.940 and finance,
01:19:24.980 then that candidate,
01:19:26.460 the one who's being outspent
01:19:27.340 three to one,
01:19:27.840 is the underdog in the race.
01:19:30.220 Oh, yeah.
01:19:30.420 This whole notion
01:19:30.960 that Kamala Harris
01:19:31.720 is the underdog.
01:19:32.720 They're trying,
01:19:32.960 I'm like,
01:19:33.200 three to one?
01:19:34.800 What are you talking about?
01:19:35.620 I don't think I've ever
01:19:36.420 read that, though.
01:19:37.100 Oh, I've seen people push that
01:19:38.640 like,
01:19:38.920 like she's the underdog.
01:19:39.940 I'm like,
01:19:40.140 no, no, but I,
01:19:40.760 but the fact that the Trump campaign
01:19:42.500 is being outspent three to one
01:19:43.840 and is still winning
01:19:44.620 is pretty crazy.
01:19:45.580 No, it's,
01:19:45.860 it's,
01:19:46.140 it's amazing.
01:19:46.800 What I actually,
01:19:47.340 what I'd love to see,
01:19:48.480 because like the country
01:19:49.720 is a business in a way,
01:19:51.460 like give someone like,
01:19:52.840 here's $200 million,
01:19:54.180 you know,
01:19:54.760 and come up with a lower number
01:19:55.800 for the Senate.
01:19:56.280 But like,
01:19:56.680 you know,
01:19:56.840 they're going to spend
01:19:57.480 200 million against
01:19:59.120 Tim Sheehy in Montana,
01:20:00.840 like Chuck Schumer.
01:20:01.480 200,
01:20:01.840 you know what 200 million
01:20:02.700 is in Montana,
01:20:04.120 a,
01:20:04.320 a state of a million people
01:20:06.320 with a cheap media market.
01:20:07.600 Like that's,
01:20:08.800 like that's billions.
01:20:10.900 You know,
01:20:11.140 if you were spending it
01:20:11.860 in a,
01:20:12.320 in a bigger state,
01:20:13.200 it's,
01:20:13.640 it's insane.
01:20:14.920 I'd love to see,
01:20:16.020 you know,
01:20:16.760 the presidential race.
01:20:17.740 Here's,
01:20:18.100 you know,
01:20:18.280 300 million a piece,
01:20:19.840 like run it like a business,
01:20:21.420 do it efficiently,
01:20:22.460 like come up with,
01:20:23.580 you know,
01:20:23.720 like make sure people
01:20:24.440 actually know,
01:20:25.020 because when you have
01:20:25.440 unlimited funds,
01:20:26.280 it's sort of like Ukraine,
01:20:27.160 right?
01:20:27.260 When you have unlimited funds,
01:20:28.120 why would you ever get
01:20:29.100 to the table?
01:20:29.600 Why would you ever work?
01:20:31.460 Why would you ever like
01:20:32.220 do something smart?
01:20:33.560 You know,
01:20:33.800 I,
01:20:34.060 I'd love to see something
01:20:35.160 like inherited money.
01:20:36.420 It's why they're all 0.99
01:20:36.900 drug addicts, 0.96
01:20:37.660 right?
01:20:38.080 Yeah.
01:20:38.520 It's,
01:20:38.960 it's, 0.72
01:20:39.880 it's disgusting.
01:20:41.280 And,
01:20:41.760 you know,
01:20:42.140 when I think of the money
01:20:42.920 that's blown on these things
01:20:44.160 and then,
01:20:44.640 you know,
01:20:44.980 the,
01:20:45.220 the special interests
01:20:46.360 than this,
01:20:46.840 and then everyone gets like,
01:20:48.180 man,
01:20:48.420 it'd be nice to cut some of that out
01:20:49.560 and just be able to like do
01:20:50.680 what Americans actually want,
01:20:53.000 not what the guy that bought you
01:20:54.220 for the last,
01:20:55.040 you know,
01:20:55.480 two years while you're running
01:20:56.500 a presidential,
01:20:57.240 you know,
01:20:58.200 actually wants you to do.
01:20:59.180 And so,
01:20:59.900 yeah,
01:21:00.120 I guess it's why they also hate Trump
01:21:01.460 is he hasn't been bought.
01:21:03.380 We definitely,
01:21:03.920 right.
01:21:04.260 He doesn't care.
01:21:05.500 He doesn't,
01:21:05.920 you know,
01:21:06.220 when he goes to these fundraisers,
01:21:07.720 I need them yell at these guys 0.96
01:21:08.680 that are big donors.
01:21:09.460 They're like you,
01:21:10.020 I mean,
01:21:10.200 I won't even mention names.
01:21:12.920 You actually loathe some of these people
01:21:15.360 because I know I do,
01:21:16.000 but I mean,
01:21:16.320 I saw a couple of times where,
01:21:17.480 you know,
01:21:18.240 they just sort of went really anti-Trump
01:21:20.440 and then try to come back around
01:21:21.600 and he doesn't even open the door,
01:21:22.720 just,
01:21:22.920 just talks to them like you would 0.97
01:21:24.000 a petulant child.
01:21:24.980 And I'm just like,
01:21:25.920 well,
01:21:26.240 you know,
01:21:26.420 there's $25 million out the window,
01:21:27.900 but man,
01:21:28.320 it was worth listening to that.
01:21:29.420 Well,
01:21:29.580 I just watched that about an hour ago.
01:21:31.300 I don't know if you were in the room
01:21:32.200 with your dad,
01:21:33.200 but there are all these big donors
01:21:34.960 in the other room right there.
01:21:36.400 And he was joking with one.
01:21:38.040 It was a very famous,
01:21:38.940 one of the richest people in the world.
01:21:40.200 And he starts making fun of him.
01:21:43.300 Yeah, 0.98
01:21:43.460 like ridiculous. 0.98
01:21:45.480 Like, 0.94
01:21:45.580 I don't think anyone has spoken
01:21:47.520 to this billionaire that way ever.
01:21:49.820 And it was,
01:21:50.300 you know,
01:21:50.820 it was joking around,
01:21:51.840 but it was.
01:21:52.240 This example that I'm talking about,
01:21:53.840 like,
01:21:54.060 was not at all joking around.
01:21:55.360 And it didn't matter.
01:21:55.840 Like,
01:21:56.000 it didn't matter.
01:21:56.580 You just see this guy that's,
01:21:57.820 you know,
01:21:58.060 12,
01:21:59.240 15,
01:21:59.580 20 billion dollars,
01:22:00.420 just like walk away with it.
01:22:01.380 Like his tail between his legs.
01:22:02.340 Now,
01:22:02.900 he doesn't give you the money,
01:22:03.800 which you need to combat
01:22:04.600 some of the stuff.
01:22:05.280 But like,
01:22:05.560 I was like,
01:22:05.860 you know what?
01:22:06.500 We probably could have deployed
01:22:07.780 that capital,
01:22:08.440 but man,
01:22:09.260 that was worth it.
01:22:09.960 Like,
01:22:10.120 that was,
01:22:10.360 that was the best 25 million
01:22:11.500 I've ever seen just burned.
01:22:13.240 I know.
01:22:13.720 Like,
01:22:14.460 bounce it with lighter fluid
01:22:15.720 and set it ablaze.
01:22:17.060 It was sort of like,
01:22:17.860 so,
01:22:18.380 yeah,
01:22:18.680 man,
01:22:19.740 it was interesting.
01:22:20.660 Like last night,
01:22:21.300 just,
01:22:21.580 you know,
01:22:21.720 being in Michigan at two o'clock
01:22:22.980 in the morning,
01:22:23.460 watching an entire stadium
01:22:24.760 still energized and invigorated
01:22:26.220 and just being like,
01:22:28.060 sort of,
01:22:28.960 you know,
01:22:29.280 I think we win.
01:22:30.160 I think we do great.
01:22:30.800 Like whatever it is,
01:22:31.540 but it was like,
01:22:32.340 man,
01:22:32.500 that was sort of an end of an era.
01:22:33.680 Like Trump on the campaign trail.
01:22:35.440 I know.
01:22:36.080 I don't think we'll ever,
01:22:37.900 I don't think we'll ever see that again.
01:22:39.280 There's,
01:22:39.560 you know,
01:22:39.840 there's not enough personality in politics.
01:22:42.420 There's not enough sort of,
01:22:43.620 it's so overwhelming.
01:22:44.880 I mean,
01:22:45.020 you can,
01:22:45.900 I met all these people who've been to,
01:22:47.100 you know,
01:22:47.240 I've been to 40 Trump rallies
01:22:48.840 and it's like,
01:22:49.580 why?
01:22:50.640 And the answer is
01:22:51.720 because they're so fun.
01:22:53.240 Yeah.
01:22:53.720 No,
01:22:53.920 I mean,
01:22:54.180 there are,
01:22:54.520 there are people that have been to
01:22:55.300 over a hundred that I've said.
01:22:56.600 And I'm like,
01:22:56.880 I'm not sure like I've been to a hundred.
01:22:58.280 You know,
01:22:58.740 my theory on that when they're like,
01:23:00.240 you know,
01:23:00.520 I'm not the guy looking for credit.
01:23:01.940 I'm not the guy like trying to be.
01:23:03.060 No,
01:23:03.080 you're not.
01:23:03.460 It's true.
01:23:03.860 I'm not the guy trying to be in the selfie,
01:23:05.860 you know,
01:23:06.040 like,
01:23:06.240 and you know,
01:23:06.820 politics,
01:23:07.140 there's all these people like,
01:23:08.280 well,
01:23:08.420 why are you here?
01:23:09.180 Like you could actually do something
01:23:10.560 if you were out of,
01:23:11.520 like in all fairness,
01:23:12.020 like you're adding,
01:23:12.660 if Trump's in the room,
01:23:14.300 like virtually no one else adds any value,
01:23:16.720 right?
01:23:16.920 Like it's like,
01:23:17.280 I've been there.
01:23:18.200 Yeah.
01:23:18.880 He'll be fine.
01:23:19.680 He doesn't need your help.
01:23:20.820 He doesn't need your like sage advice. 1.00
01:23:24.240 Bullshit. 1.00
01:23:25.320 You know, 1.00
01:23:25.740 but you know,
01:23:26.440 you still see a lot of that
01:23:27.360 where they're just there
01:23:28.120 to be in the background,
01:23:29.280 to be seen there.
01:23:30.260 And I'm like,
01:23:30.720 so I'm the opposite.
01:23:31.580 Like yesterday,
01:23:32.960 you know,
01:23:33.140 I did want to do the last day.
01:23:35.120 Yesterday was the only day
01:23:36.360 in the entire cycle
01:23:37.640 that I've spent with my father.
01:23:38.980 Like I just,
01:23:39.860 was it fun?
01:23:40.800 It was great,
01:23:41.440 but I'm kind of like my dad that way.
01:23:43.800 I rather have the mic also.
01:23:45.460 So it's like,
01:23:45.780 you know,
01:23:46.340 I'm sitting there at the end of four rallies,
01:23:47.860 you know,
01:23:48.260 five 30 in the morning
01:23:49.200 and I'm like exhausted.
01:23:50.200 And you know what it's like,
01:23:50.920 you know,
01:23:51.720 you get up on the stage
01:23:52.820 when we did our great event
01:23:53.680 up in Jacksonville
01:23:54.380 and there's like 17,000 people there
01:23:56.000 and I'm like,
01:23:56.280 you get done.
01:23:57.160 It's like,
01:23:57.960 okay,
01:23:59.280 yeah,
01:24:00.100 I'm not going to sleep for hours.
01:24:01.140 Like I'm just,
01:24:01.800 you absorb some of that energy
01:24:04.360 when the crowd gives you that.
01:24:05.340 You absorb that energy
01:24:06.220 and like,
01:24:06.460 you're not,
01:24:06.900 so it's,
01:24:08.240 you know,
01:24:08.600 I'm looking at my dad
01:24:09.460 and I'm like,
01:24:09.780 and I honestly,
01:24:10.300 I'm always impressed with him
01:24:11.480 and you know,
01:24:11.880 whether it's,
01:24:12.300 you know,
01:24:12.480 taking, 0.98
01:24:12.840 getting shot in the face 0.88
01:24:13.480 and coming back defiant 0.98
01:24:14.420 or just,
01:24:15.120 but his overall energy,
01:24:16.120 it's like,
01:24:16.440 it's 6 a.m.
01:24:17.660 He's been going since 6 a.m.
01:24:19.600 24 hours.
01:24:20.580 He's had the,
01:24:21.120 you know,
01:24:21.660 thousands of people
01:24:22.360 that he's been entertaining.
01:24:23.440 You know,
01:24:23.680 and you know,
01:24:24.000 it's not like a Kamala Harris speech,
01:24:25.460 which is like seven minutes
01:24:26.340 off a prompter.
01:24:26.940 I mean,
01:24:27.540 well,
01:24:27.660 you can have a 45 minute speech
01:24:29.400 in the prompter,
01:24:30.380 but he's up there for,
01:24:31.220 you know,
01:24:32.840 120 minutes.
01:24:34.180 It's like,
01:24:34.440 I'm like,
01:24:34.700 for the love of God,
01:24:35.360 like we're,
01:24:35.820 we did the first rally
01:24:37.180 in North Carolina.
01:24:37.780 We got there relatively on time
01:24:39.440 and like,
01:24:39.940 by the time we got done,
01:24:40.660 we're like,
01:24:41.360 well,
01:24:41.480 we're already two hours
01:24:42.260 behind schedule.
01:24:42.880 I'm like,
01:24:43.100 I'm not going to get to sleep tonight.
01:24:44.160 Like,
01:24:44.420 and I'm going to be on TV
01:24:45.260 and radio all morning.
01:24:46.080 So,
01:24:46.400 you know,
01:24:46.840 I pulled an all-nighter,
01:24:47.960 but you know,
01:24:48.320 the guy's 78,
01:24:50.340 pulls an all-nighter,
01:24:51.520 is doing TV all day,
01:24:53.040 doesn't go to sleep at all.
01:24:54.340 And I'm like,
01:24:55.040 I don't even know that.
01:24:56.500 I like,
01:24:56.740 I don't have that at 46.
01:24:58.040 Like it's,
01:24:58.900 you know,
01:24:59.280 I'm like,
01:24:59.800 tonight he was in there.
01:25:01.560 I don't know.
01:25:02.060 You're probably working,
01:25:03.160 but he was in there
01:25:04.760 and the returns are coming up
01:25:06.080 at the first,
01:25:06.660 you know,
01:25:06.780 the first tranche at seven,
01:25:08.480 all his biggest donors
01:25:09.360 standing around.
01:25:10.040 And he's doing this like
01:25:11.140 play-by-play
01:25:12.400 in front of everybody
01:25:14.080 just for like 40 minutes.
01:25:15.560 And it's hilarious.
01:25:16.960 And he remembers everyone
01:25:17.860 and he remembers
01:25:18.500 when they got on board,
01:25:20.060 especially,
01:25:20.580 especially the guys
01:25:21.220 that got on early.
01:25:21.980 But it,
01:25:22.640 the recall,
01:25:23.960 you know,
01:25:25.100 is actually amazing.
01:25:26.620 You know,
01:25:26.900 like when they start doing the,
01:25:28.740 like the most offensive stuff
01:25:30.000 I see is like,
01:25:30.820 when they're like,
01:25:31.280 well,
01:25:31.420 Trump's in the later stages
01:25:32.360 of dementia and Alzheimer's.
01:25:33.440 I'm like,
01:25:33.620 you're the same people
01:25:34.200 that told you
01:25:34.560 that Joe Biden
01:25:35.080 is alive and well.
01:25:35.980 I'm like,
01:25:36.840 yeah,
01:25:37.520 you know,
01:25:38.080 it's been a weekend
01:25:38.680 at Bernie's for four years,
01:25:39.740 but,
01:25:40.180 you know,
01:25:40.680 he really,
01:25:41.360 you know,
01:25:41.560 he gets it.
01:25:42.220 And so.
01:25:43.040 Yeah,
01:25:43.320 no,
01:25:43.600 he's not,
01:25:44.220 he's not in the later stages
01:25:45.480 of dementia.
01:25:46.320 I think it's fair to say.
01:25:47.860 You don't have to like him,
01:25:49.120 but he's not,
01:25:49.620 he's not suffering
01:25:50.360 from dementia.
01:25:50.780 Yeah,
01:25:50.980 well,
01:25:51.180 you combine,
01:25:51.920 but you combine
01:25:52.700 just the full weight
01:25:54.180 and force
01:25:54.580 of the mainstream media,
01:25:56.040 you know,
01:25:56.420 a trillion dollar industry.
01:25:57.500 You combine that,
01:25:58.460 you add in,
01:25:59.300 you know,
01:25:59.820 big tech,
01:26:00.920 you add in,
01:26:02.140 you know,
01:26:02.320 three to one outspend
01:26:03.400 and it's like,
01:26:04.060 it's hard.
01:26:04.480 Like,
01:26:04.600 I feel like if I was a leftist,
01:26:06.080 like we'd win elections
01:26:06.960 by like 99.9 to like 0.01
01:26:09.840 and the 0.01 is like people
01:26:10.880 who just filled in
01:26:11.420 the wrong circle
01:26:12.000 or something like that.
01:26:12.520 Like,
01:26:12.700 it's actually hard to believe
01:26:13.860 we can even be competitive,
01:26:14.840 but that's how insane
01:26:15.700 the Democrat Party is today. 0.58
01:26:17.020 I got to say,
01:26:17.980 for me,
01:26:18.520 there are lots of things
01:26:19.380 I'm looking forward to
01:26:20.360 if he wins,
01:26:21.340 but Nicole Wallace's response
01:26:24.780 has got to be right
01:26:25.460 at the top of the list.
01:26:26.480 Oh,
01:26:26.620 a couple of those,
01:26:27.480 you know,
01:26:28.140 just,
01:26:29.540 you know,
01:26:29.740 I want to like juxtapose them
01:26:31.380 to like 2016,
01:26:32.400 you know,
01:26:33.000 Martha Raddatz,
01:26:33.980 the very,
01:26:34.460 very unbiased moderator
01:26:35.680 of the Hillary Clinton debate.
01:26:37.160 She's there in tears on TV.
01:26:38.400 I'm like,
01:26:38.900 you think she's really like unbiased?
01:26:40.380 You think there's even like
01:26:41.520 a little bit
01:26:43.160 and you look at the way
01:26:44.080 they've analyzed the coverage,
01:26:45.920 you know,
01:26:46.240 93% negative against Trump,
01:26:48.280 like 276% positive
01:26:50.720 for Kamala Harris.
01:26:51.600 I'm like,
01:26:52.240 like,
01:26:52.500 she hasn't even given you guys
01:26:53.480 your policies.
01:26:54.220 Like,
01:26:54.320 it'd be one thing if like,
01:26:56.080 hey,
01:26:56.640 you excuse
01:26:58.260 just overall,
01:27:00.800 you know,
01:27:01.200 lack of charisma,
01:27:02.180 but like,
01:27:03.220 she wouldn't even tell them
01:27:04.220 their policies.
01:27:04.860 It's fine.
01:27:05.360 It's fine.
01:27:05.700 Like,
01:27:05.840 we'll figure out the policies
01:27:06.860 on January 20th.
01:27:07.540 They have no self-respect.
01:27:09.460 It's brutal,
01:27:10.360 right?
01:27:10.660 Like,
01:27:10.840 it's,
01:27:11.180 again,
01:27:12.080 it's hard to believe
01:27:12.940 that you can even have a close.
01:27:14.160 But Nicole Wallace 0.76
01:27:14.420 is just,
01:27:15.320 there's something about her.
01:27:16.680 It's just,
01:27:17.260 when I was a kid,
01:27:18.700 I was a magazine writer
01:27:19.880 and I went down to Florida
01:27:21.100 to interview Jeb Bush
01:27:22.300 on his education policy. 1.00
01:27:23.720 He was like an idiot, 1.00
01:27:24.680 but I was required 1.00
01:27:25.880 to think he was impressive.
01:27:27.120 And Nicole Devinish,
01:27:28.640 she was then called,
01:27:29.960 was the little gatekeeper.
01:27:31.760 I remember thinking, 1.00
01:27:32.180 this woman's really stupid 1.00
01:27:33.200 and really kind of nasty 1.00
01:27:34.780 and self-important.
01:27:35.940 And then the next thing
01:27:36.940 I wake up
01:27:37.500 and she's got a show 0.75
01:27:38.420 on MSNBC
01:27:39.280 and she's like 0.89
01:27:40.860 the most dishonest, 0.99
01:27:43.020 weepiest, 0.98
01:27:43.820 just like, 0.59
01:27:44.780 sanctimonious.
01:27:47.060 Don't you think
01:27:47.820 that her,
01:27:48.680 like,
01:27:49.120 melting down on MSNBC
01:27:50.440 will make all of it worth it?
01:27:51.840 A hundred percent.
01:27:52.640 Like,
01:27:52.880 you know,
01:27:53.080 even,
01:27:53.460 you know,
01:27:53.760 50 hours of congressional
01:27:54.700 testimony for treason.
01:27:56.220 Like,
01:27:56.660 they're like,
01:27:57.940 why'd you work so hard
01:27:58.760 on this?
01:27:59.080 I was like,
01:27:59.380 well,
01:27:59.500 because I don't want
01:27:59.960 to end up in the gulags.
01:28:00.980 I mean,
01:28:01.400 you and I would have fun
01:28:02.280 if they put us next to each other.
01:28:03.320 It'd be fun, yeah.
01:28:04.280 But,
01:28:04.660 you know,
01:28:05.420 it's insane.
01:28:06.460 But no,
01:28:06.680 it's interesting
01:28:07.800 when you,
01:28:08.860 with the media,
01:28:10.000 with politics in general,
01:28:12.020 you know,
01:28:12.180 I came from the business world.
01:28:13.260 Like,
01:28:13.380 you don't just get lucky
01:28:16.800 in business.
01:28:18.160 You can get lucky once,
01:28:19.000 but like the guys
01:28:19.540 that have 40-year careers,
01:28:21.080 they're impressive people.
01:28:23.360 Politics,
01:28:24.200 media,
01:28:24.920 they're actually
01:28:25.640 incredibly unimpressive.
01:28:27.760 And it's sort of amazing.
01:28:28.780 It's sort of what I love
01:28:29.440 about what's going on right now
01:28:31.120 when you have,
01:28:31.500 like,
01:28:31.760 you know,
01:28:31.860 my father
01:28:32.260 and you have,
01:28:32.700 you know,
01:28:33.320 Vivek
01:28:33.780 and you have a JD
01:28:34.540 who,
01:28:35.100 you know,
01:28:35.360 in all fairness,
01:28:35.840 I think I,
01:28:36.420 I get,
01:28:37.460 I should probably get
01:28:37.900 a little credit for
01:28:38.640 just kind of taking on
01:28:40.240 the billionaire donor class
01:28:41.160 that wanted their puppet VP.
01:28:42.460 And if only people knew
01:28:44.340 how much credit you deserve
01:28:45.380 for that,
01:28:45.920 that was a heroic.
01:28:47.060 I don't ask for much,
01:28:48.240 but I was like,
01:28:48.540 I'm all in on that.
01:28:49.500 That story will never be written,
01:28:51.100 but that was one of the great moments
01:28:52.840 in any politics I've ever seen.
01:28:54.680 And I've seen a lot of politics.
01:28:55.680 You definitely exerted,
01:28:57.780 I exerted 10,000%
01:28:59.220 of my political capital.
01:29:00.320 I may get like,
01:29:01.440 I may get a favor
01:29:02.320 from my father
01:29:02.960 in like 2076.
01:29:06.640 You know,
01:29:07.080 I used it all,
01:29:07.980 but you know,
01:29:08.420 it was great after the debate
01:29:09.820 because I,
01:29:10.340 and it actually worked out.
01:29:11.300 He turned out to be amazing.
01:29:12.000 Just amazing.
01:29:12.660 You know,
01:29:12.840 listen,
01:29:13.120 if I go all in,
01:29:14.200 it's usually like,
01:29:14.920 I feel really strong.
01:29:15.680 I don't,
01:29:15.900 I don't go all in often.
01:29:17.060 There's not a lot of things.
01:29:17.780 I'm sort of indifferent.
01:29:18.520 Like I'll work around
01:29:19.720 some of the bad stuff,
01:29:21.320 right?
01:29:21.460 This was one that was like,
01:29:23.000 it was really important.
01:29:24.900 I mean,
01:29:25.040 I like,
01:29:25.740 but there've been like no hiccups.
01:29:27.320 It's no,
01:29:27.720 well,
01:29:27.960 you know,
01:29:28.220 honestly,
01:29:28.600 it's sort of interesting.
01:29:30.400 I've had like a lot of these like
01:29:31.760 sort of Republican donor class
01:29:33.020 people come up to me, 0.99
01:29:33.800 which is really stupid of them, 1.00
01:29:34.700 by the way, 1.00
01:29:34.960 but they're like,
01:29:35.700 you know,
01:29:35.960 Don,
01:29:36.360 like I was MFing you
01:29:37.740 for like three weeks
01:29:39.120 about that decision
01:29:40.740 because I really wanted X,
01:29:41.760 Y,
01:29:41.880 Z and then I'm like,
01:29:43.440 you really shouldn't tell me
01:29:44.140 that you were doing that
01:29:44.640 behind my back.
01:29:45.320 You know,
01:29:45.680 like I appreciate the candor now,
01:29:47.020 but I'm like,
01:29:47.540 you know,
01:29:47.820 that like,
01:29:48.440 I don't know,
01:29:48.780 like I'm going to remember that.
01:29:49.960 Like,
01:29:50.080 it's like,
01:29:50.980 but they're like,
01:29:51.460 but you were right.
01:29:52.100 And then,
01:29:52.320 you know,
01:29:52.800 and the only one that mattered,
01:29:53.800 I wanted my father to be happy,
01:29:54.740 but you know,
01:29:55.220 it was after the debate,
01:29:56.620 you know,
01:29:56.820 my phone's blowing up in my pocket
01:29:58.200 and I figured it was press
01:29:59.000 or I'm doing the spin room
01:29:59.900 for like two hours
01:30:00.640 after the debate
01:30:01.400 and,
01:30:01.700 you know,
01:30:02.180 uh,
01:30:02.640 doing all this,
01:30:03.100 my phone key,
01:30:03.500 I'm turning off my phone,
01:30:04.780 turning off my phone.
01:30:05.580 And it was like,
01:30:06.180 I had like 12 missed calls
01:30:07.360 from my dad.
01:30:07.920 I'm like,
01:30:08.880 oh boy,
01:30:09.920 uh,
01:30:10.360 you know,
01:30:10.580 that's usually not great.
01:30:12.260 Um,
01:30:12.780 and he just gets on the phone.
01:30:13.600 He goes,
01:30:13.760 you know,
01:30:13.980 Don,
01:30:14.660 you know,
01:30:16.320 I did that for you,
01:30:17.440 Don,
01:30:18.340 but,
01:30:18.740 but that was a 10.
01:30:20.440 And that like,
01:30:21.180 you know,
01:30:21.660 like a huge win in Trump world,
01:30:23.820 it's like a six.
01:30:25.880 And so when he was like,
01:30:26.840 that was a 10,
01:30:27.380 that's as close to a 10
01:30:28.420 as you're going to get.
01:30:29.080 I was like,
01:30:29.340 okay,
01:30:29.500 we did,
01:30:29.920 we got it.
01:30:30.800 But you know,
01:30:31.600 it was watching him,
01:30:32.360 even that first week
01:30:33.180 as the narrative,
01:30:34.340 they were trying to crush this guy.
01:30:35.360 They would have tried to crush anyone.
01:30:36.460 I understand that,
01:30:37.080 but you know,
01:30:38.200 they're trying to crush him
01:30:38.960 and I just watched him
01:30:39.560 on the Sunday shows
01:30:40.240 do three in a row,
01:30:41.620 just absolutely dismantle the narrative
01:30:43.300 because our problem
01:30:44.080 on our side is like,
01:30:45.100 everyone's so,
01:30:46.440 they want to be loved
01:30:47.140 by these people
01:30:47.680 who literally hate their guts.
01:30:49.120 Oh yeah.
01:30:49.540 You know,
01:30:49.800 we joke about the gulags,
01:30:50.760 but they would gladly
01:30:51.340 put any one of us in it
01:30:52.260 if they could just snap their fingers
01:30:53.300 and make it happen.
01:30:54.040 And you know,
01:30:54.940 it was,
01:30:55.740 it was watching that
01:30:56.980 where JD didn't just take their,
01:30:59.940 you know,
01:31:00.260 January 6th was an insurrection.
01:31:01.720 Okay.
01:31:02.080 It was an insurrection,
01:31:03.080 but you know,
01:31:03.680 it wasn't like,
01:31:04.920 it's like,
01:31:05.140 no, 0.98
01:31:05.280 this is ridiculous. 0.98
01:31:05.860 Like, 0.99
01:31:06.040 what are you talking about? 0.98
01:31:06.740 And just absolutely crush these people. 0.91
01:31:08.820 And, 0.62
01:31:08.960 and it's because no one's ever pushed back.
01:31:11.620 I know.
01:31:11.840 It's not that they're smart.
01:31:12.800 It's like people want to get invited back on the show.
01:31:15.040 So they concede so much ground.
01:31:17.100 So,
01:31:17.400 you know,
01:31:17.560 you're starting a negotiation
01:31:18.560 with already less than you're even hoping to get.
01:31:21.520 And it's like,
01:31:21.980 well,
01:31:22.680 like,
01:31:23.160 why would you do that?
01:31:24.220 And he's been one of the first people
01:31:25.520 to really break the mold on that
01:31:26.960 and just sort of,
01:31:27.720 you know,
01:31:28.080 not,
01:31:28.380 not just accept the narrative blindly
01:31:30.280 and push back.
01:31:32.060 So it's been awesome to say like,
01:31:33.840 well,
01:31:34.180 he can explain himself.
01:31:35.020 And for me,
01:31:35.800 you know,
01:31:36.000 again,
01:31:36.200 you know,
01:31:37.060 politics has not been like an upside business for us.
01:31:39.700 It's not a business for us at all.
01:31:40.920 It's,
01:31:40.980 it's cost us billions of dollars,
01:31:42.700 but like,
01:31:43.560 I believe in this stuff.
01:31:44.460 And so to know that there's also someone like,
01:31:47.580 we have a bench.
01:31:48.740 There's a,
01:31:49.260 there's a future of the Republican party.
01:31:51.160 It's not like now it reverts back to Mitt Romney
01:31:53.080 and whatever it may be.
01:31:54.040 And like,
01:31:54.540 that was fun.
01:31:55.780 See you guys later.
01:31:56.940 You know,
01:31:57.580 America first is,
01:31:59.040 is alive and well,
01:31:59.940 and,
01:32:00.200 you know,
01:32:00.280 seeing a Vivek and seeing some of these other guys
01:32:01.960 come up there and now step out and,
01:32:04.540 you know,
01:32:04.880 just absolutely dismantle that establishment class
01:32:07.600 day in and day out.
01:32:08.420 You can just see like truly impressive people
01:32:10.040 actually on our side for a change.
01:32:11.400 And I'm like,
01:32:11.820 this is,
01:32:12.600 this is the way.
01:32:13.440 And I got to say,
01:32:14.140 I feel personally vindicated because I've told you
01:32:17.160 this many times,
01:32:17.700 but I remember five years of like,
01:32:19.340 Oh, 1.00
01:32:20.140 Donald Trump's so stupid. 1.00
01:32:21.180 I was like, 1.00
01:32:21.480 no,
01:32:21.720 actually Don's the smartest guy in the orbit
01:32:23.780 and actually understands politics on a gut level
01:32:28.260 way better than anybody else.
01:32:29.920 Yeah.
01:32:30.040 You had a bad news cycle for that.
01:32:31.180 I remember that.
01:32:31.580 I was like,
01:32:31.740 wow,
01:32:31.920 that was pretty cool.
01:32:32.600 Well,
01:32:32.740 it's true.
01:32:33.280 It's true.
01:32:33.960 I went after you pretty hard,
01:32:35.260 but I said that cause it's true.
01:32:36.540 And I think now it's very obvious that it's true.
01:32:38.900 So congratulations.
01:32:39.940 I think you've been vindicated.
01:32:41.280 And I,
01:32:41.580 and I mean,
01:32:42.080 anyway,
01:32:42.600 thank you.
01:32:43.100 Now we just got to win.
01:32:44.260 Now we just,
01:32:44.980 good luck,
01:32:45.340 man.
01:32:45.760 I appreciate it.
01:32:46.540 Hold on.
01:32:47.460 Younger voters narrowly going for Trump.
01:32:49.700 18 to 29 in Michigan are going for Trump.
01:32:53.680 That is crazy.
01:32:55.080 Young people for Trump.
01:32:56.940 You know,
01:32:57.460 it's,
01:32:57.940 it's man.
01:32:58.600 I see so much stuff.
01:33:00.020 Like if you,
01:33:00.660 if you break it down per capita,
01:33:01.760 like I,
01:33:02.360 I actually in the last like two,
01:33:04.260 three months,
01:33:04.620 like I've taken per capita more selfies with like black men than,
01:33:08.780 than any other group.
01:33:09.440 Exactly.
01:33:09.900 You know,
01:33:10.060 it's,
01:33:10.400 you know,
01:33:10.660 there,
01:33:10.880 there is a shift,
01:33:11.680 like no one's buying the nonsense anymore.
01:33:13.960 You know,
01:33:14.220 it doesn't mean,
01:33:15.340 you know,
01:33:15.780 it doesn't mean this is it,
01:33:16.700 but it just,
01:33:17.360 it feels so good because of that.
01:33:18.980 It's like,
01:33:19.260 it's not,
01:33:19.960 you know,
01:33:20.220 the old white guy in a MAGA hat anymore.
01:33:21.900 It's a,
01:33:22.700 it's a big deal.
01:33:24.220 Baldwin County flipped it for us.
01:33:25.400 Huh?
01:33:25.760 Trump flipped Baldwin County.
01:33:27.180 It's 41% black.
01:33:28.520 He's the first Republican to win in 20 years.
01:33:31.400 Amazing.
01:33:32.320 Amazing.
01:33:33.660 Listen,
01:33:34.020 we just need this stuff to translate through.
01:33:35.460 We need,
01:33:35.780 we need that to translate through in the,
01:33:37.720 you know,
01:33:37.900 in the blue wall and,
01:33:38.840 uh, 0.96
01:33:39.160 pick off one of those.
01:33:40.080 And I feel like we have a pretty good night.
01:33:41.760 93 more,
01:33:42.500 uh,
01:33:43.380 electoral votes necessary.
01:33:46.240 So,
01:33:46.560 yeah,
01:33:46.680 I mean,
01:33:46.860 we haven't gotten to the West coast yet.
01:33:47.920 So obviously,
01:33:48.440 you know,
01:33:48.600 she's going to make up some gains in Washington, 0.96
01:33:50.080 Oregon,
01:33:50.400 California,
01:33:50.940 all that.
01:33:51.360 I'm thinking he's going to do pretty well in Montana,
01:33:53.100 Idaho,
01:33:54.040 Utah,
01:33:54.620 Arizona,
01:33:55.280 and Nevada.
01:33:56.000 Maybe Nevada.
01:33:56.640 Yeah.
01:33:57.360 I mean,
01:33:57.560 yeah.
01:33:57.820 I mean,
01:33:58.580 it was interesting.
01:33:59.220 Nevada on the ground at,
01:34:00.140 you know,
01:34:00.580 obviously the Democrats,
01:34:01.620 they've owned that for a long time.
01:34:02.600 That's the Harry Reid machine and everything like that.
01:34:04.280 There we are.
01:34:04.920 I was there a lot and it,
01:34:06.140 it felt pretty good.
01:34:07.000 The betting markets have him at 71%.
01:34:09.120 With 290 million in play.
01:34:12.520 That's,
01:34:12.860 that's a lot of money.
01:34:13.880 Yeah.
01:34:14.080 It's going to be a little harder to steal it at this point,
01:34:16.200 but we'll see.
01:34:17.080 Yeah.
01:34:17.400 Well,
01:34:17.780 you know,
01:34:18.060 it's not,
01:34:18.340 people are watching,
01:34:19.160 you know,
01:34:19.960 uh,
01:34:20.520 I,
01:34:20.780 I never gave,
01:34:21.680 you know,
01:34:21.860 the RNC much credit prior to this,
01:34:23.480 but the,
01:34:23.740 you know,
01:34:23.960 Michael Watley,
01:34:24.580 the whole team,
01:34:25.200 like these guys,
01:34:25.900 you know,
01:34:26.240 lower,
01:34:26.540 like they,
01:34:27.300 you know,
01:34:27.660 they got real people on the ground.
01:34:29.360 They got real poll watchers.
01:34:30.200 They got lawyers.
01:34:30.680 So when something started happening,
01:34:32.480 you know,
01:34:32.600 it doesn't mean they're going to catch everything,
01:34:33.660 but like before we were just like,
01:34:35.860 okay,
01:34:36.480 like you can just print some ballots and fill them out and make up the
01:34:38.940 difference.
01:34:39.420 You know,
01:34:44.080 you know,
01:34:44.600 they'll,
01:34:44.940 they'll change the game.
01:34:45.940 We're usually reactionary.
01:34:47.680 Uh,
01:34:48.000 they're a little bit more proactive to get ahead of these things,
01:34:49.940 but you know,
01:34:50.900 it,
01:34:51.260 it feels good that we actually have people on the ground.
01:34:52.920 The second something went where they're on it,
01:34:54.700 they got lawsuits filed.
01:34:55.640 They got lawyers on the ground.
01:34:56.640 They got people actually watching this stuff.
01:34:58.740 Uh,
01:34:59.160 you know,
01:34:59.500 so it's exciting to see.
01:35:01.000 All right.
01:35:01.280 I'll find you.
01:35:02.020 I appreciate it,
01:35:02.420 buddy.
01:35:02.620 Thank you,
01:35:03.060 Don.
01:35:03.280 Good to see you,
01:35:03.700 man.
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01:36:42.040 So this election is being closely watched by everyone in the United States,
01:36:45.380 but it is maybe even as closely being watched by the rest of the world for whom a lot hangs in the balance.
01:36:53.020 Nigel Farage is the head of the UK Reform Party.
01:36:55.440 He is the author of the Brexit Movement.
01:36:58.180 It's prime mover.
01:37:00.640 Really someone who will be tied in history,
01:37:03.640 I think,
01:37:03.960 with Donald Trump forever because Brexit happened just as Trump's candidacy was taking off.
01:37:09.260 He joins us now.
01:37:10.180 Nigel,
01:37:10.320 thanks so much.
01:37:11.040 Tucker,
01:37:11.320 pleasure to be here.
01:37:12.160 So I'm not going to ask you to predict electoral totals in a system that a country you don't live in,
01:37:18.560 but tell us,
01:37:19.460 I mean,
01:37:19.700 is it an overstatement to say that the rest of the world is watching this really,
01:37:22.980 really carefully?
01:37:24.460 Oh,
01:37:24.580 you bet your life.
01:37:25.540 I mean,
01:37:25.800 this is big.
01:37:27.820 You think it's just about America.
01:37:29.400 No,
01:37:29.620 it's much bigger than that.
01:37:30.600 It's about leadership of the Western world.
01:37:32.480 It's about what signal gets sent to dictators all over the world who are launching wars,
01:37:37.900 causing problems,
01:37:39.120 whether we talk Middle East,
01:37:40.340 whether we talk Ukraine,
01:37:41.380 whether we talk potentially what might happen with China,
01:37:44.800 Taiwan,
01:37:45.820 et cetera.
01:37:46.260 So this is,
01:37:47.800 I tell you something,
01:37:48.800 this is a very,
01:37:50.180 very important moment.
01:37:51.700 Just,
01:37:52.000 I mean,
01:37:52.220 just think in the last four years,
01:37:53.720 what has happened around the world?
01:37:55.780 I mean,
01:37:55.940 the Abraham Accords,
01:37:57.320 which were,
01:37:57.720 I thought in foreign policy terms,
01:37:59.600 the most stunning achievement of the Trump administration.
01:38:03.260 How on earth?
01:38:04.720 He didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
01:38:06.420 I really don't know.
01:38:09.040 That's been smashed to pieces.
01:38:11.180 The Biden withdrawal of the last 3,000 American troops from Afghanistan.
01:38:16.640 And by the way,
01:38:17.000 all they'd be doing was training,
01:38:19.480 you know,
01:38:19.740 the army who were going out there fighting,
01:38:22.160 not been a single American soldier killed for the previous 18 months.
01:38:25.300 What happens?
01:38:26.260 Biden withdraws,
01:38:27.940 leaves behind $85 billion worth of prime American military equipment.
01:38:34.240 And Putin says,
01:38:34.980 you guys are weak and goes in to Ukraine. 0.65
01:38:37.800 So if you think how much has gone wrong in the world,
01:38:40.080 how much more dangerous the world is now than it was four years ago,
01:38:43.820 this really matters.
01:38:44.660 I mean,
01:38:45.140 Tony Blinken and Biden to the extent he's been involved,
01:38:48.280 but the entire team have been spreaders of global chaos to an extent.
01:38:52.060 We,
01:38:52.320 we just haven't seen in my lifetime.
01:38:54.480 And the most telling fact,
01:38:56.080 I'm not even sure what to make of it.
01:38:57.880 But I know that it is true is that both the Arabs and the Israelis seem to be
01:39:03.800 rooting for Trump.
01:39:06.920 I mean,
01:39:07.680 I didn't even know what that means other than why would the Arabs and the 1.00
01:39:11.340 Israelis? 0.53
01:39:12.080 I mean,
01:39:12.280 I,
01:39:12.500 I think I know that that's true.
01:39:14.040 So certainly the public opinion polling in Israel is like overwhelming for
01:39:17.000 Trump.
01:39:17.260 Okay.
01:39:17.880 Yeah.
01:39:18.740 We know that,
01:39:19.840 but you know,
01:39:20.820 everyone I know in the Arab world,
01:39:21.960 there's a lot of people are all rooting for Trump.
01:39:23.440 Well,
01:39:23.600 why is that?
01:39:24.440 It's because they want stability in the world.
01:39:27.120 This is too crazy.
01:39:28.020 It's scaring everybody.
01:39:29.300 We're in the brink of something awful.
01:39:30.880 Also,
01:39:31.160 what's interesting.
01:39:32.420 And by the way,
01:39:32.960 what we're seeing tonight with the Trump vote is a new coalition emerging in
01:39:38.080 American politics.
01:39:39.100 And one small part of that.
01:39:40.000 Is that pretty obvious,
01:39:40.900 even from the UK?
01:39:41.840 Oh,
01:39:42.400 well,
01:39:42.680 you say from the UK,
01:39:43.800 but don't forget Tucker.
01:39:44.700 I mean,
01:39:44.880 you know,
01:39:45.500 I started working for American companies in 1982.
01:39:48.200 No,
01:39:48.380 I don't.
01:39:49.080 You know more about American politics.
01:39:50.380 I barely can't.
01:39:51.400 So what was interesting was to see when he was in Michigan,
01:39:55.920 imams coming up on the stage with Trump and people think how,
01:39:59.760 why?
01:40:00.280 Well,
01:40:00.480 because of course that many people in the Muslim religion are naturally quite 1.00
01:40:04.920 small C conservative.
01:40:06.380 They believe in the family.
01:40:08.100 They believe in.
01:40:08.700 And then the Hasidic community in New York is out for Trump.
01:40:11.340 Yeah.
01:40:11.740 Yeah.
01:40:12.260 Well,
01:40:12.700 it's just kind of crazy.
01:40:13.860 This is all part of both sides are for Trump.
01:40:16.660 This coalition.
01:40:18.860 Yeah.
01:40:19.520 And African-Americans,
01:40:21.120 African-Americans voting for Hitler. 0.55
01:40:23.640 It's amazing,
01:40:24.200 isn't it?
01:40:24.660 You know,
01:40:24.900 I mean,
01:40:25.480 you know,
01:40:26.600 it's incredible.
01:40:27.760 No,
01:40:28.020 it's,
01:40:28.400 it's,
01:40:28.580 I hadn't even thought of,
01:40:29.500 but that's such a smart point.
01:40:30.580 So you have,
01:40:31.640 you have Arabs and Israelis,
01:40:33.660 you have rural whites from North Georgia in the mountains, 0.85
01:40:37.440 and then young urban black men in Atlanta.
01:40:41.440 Yeah.
01:40:42.040 All for Trump.
01:40:42.740 Yeah.
01:40:42.960 Yeah.
01:40:43.180 And,
01:40:43.400 and,
01:40:43.700 and Gen Z,
01:40:44.920 Gen Z. 0.58
01:40:45.660 Young people.
01:40:46.160 Really interesting to see.
01:40:47.640 There's a massive change going on here.
01:40:49.680 It's huge.
01:40:50.440 And,
01:40:50.960 and can you believe amongst young people,
01:40:53.240 and I'm getting this on my side of the pond as well,
01:40:56.040 amongst a lot of young people,
01:40:57.360 suddenly to be conservative is cool.
01:41:00.920 It's trendy.
01:41:02.200 It's fun.
01:41:03.240 It's exciting.
01:41:04.360 It's real because it links into ambition.
01:41:06.800 It links into bettering yourself.
01:41:08.880 It links into wanting to sort of succeed in the world.
01:41:12.160 Now,
01:41:12.580 this,
01:41:12.840 this,
01:41:13.020 this new coalition that has formed over the course of these last few months here,
01:41:18.000 uh,
01:41:18.600 is,
01:41:18.920 is remarkable.
01:41:19.600 And actually I think after the win tonight,
01:41:23.760 and I'm,
01:41:24.240 I'm still feeling very bullish about the outcome after this,
01:41:28.400 uh,
01:41:29.000 there is a chance to build something that could last.
01:41:31.520 I think for many years.
01:41:33.800 Amazing.
01:41:34.880 Last question.
01:41:35.760 Do you think it does seem like Kamala Harris,
01:41:37.980 and I understand how the Democrats sort of box themselves in with Kamala Harris.
01:41:41.220 I don't think that they would have chosen her if they'd had a right,
01:41:44.740 if they were able to sort of plan ahead.
01:41:46.920 But the idea that Kamala Harris is like the most impressive person in a country,
01:41:50.900 350 million people to lead the most powerful country.
01:41:54.260 The lies of the media are telling us they seem too preposterous,
01:41:57.420 actually.
01:41:58.620 Like maybe they just went too far.
01:42:00.000 Maybe there's a lie that's just too absurd.
01:42:02.300 And that's why they collapse.
01:42:03.540 Well,
01:42:03.860 hang on.
01:42:04.180 The whole thing's been absurd.
01:42:05.180 I mean,
01:42:05.260 the last four years have been absurd.
01:42:06.720 I mean,
01:42:06.840 the fact you've had a,
01:42:07.560 a president,
01:42:08.680 you know,
01:42:08.880 there's an openly, 0.62
01:42:10.060 obviously senile president.
01:42:12.180 Was that obvious to you? 0.95
01:42:13.240 Oh,
01:42:13.620 goodness gracious me.
01:42:14.800 I mean,
01:42:15.020 I can see it on day one.
01:42:16.660 I mean,
01:42:16.980 it was,
01:42:17.320 I mean,
01:42:17.700 the whole thing,
01:42:18.500 I mean,
01:42:18.820 like,
01:42:18.960 what did you think?
01:42:19.640 Like you're sitting in London.
01:42:20.800 Well,
01:42:21.000 I tell you what.
01:42:21.420 And you're watching this.
01:42:22.280 What do you think?
01:42:22.800 What does the world think?
01:42:24.200 Well,
01:42:24.360 that's what I'm asking.
01:42:24.900 What does the world think?
01:42:26.180 What on earth has gone on to America?
01:42:29.220 How can they have sunk to the depths of having a man like this leading them and at the same time making the whole world a more dangerous place?
01:42:36.760 And yet mainstream media covered it all up.
01:42:40.340 Covered it all up.
01:42:43.100 So,
01:42:43.700 yeah,
01:42:44.040 I mean,
01:42:44.260 I mean,
01:42:44.460 the whole thing's been an embarrassment really,
01:42:46.080 hasn't it?
01:42:46.580 But,
01:42:46.700 but,
01:42:46.900 but,
01:42:47.600 but,
01:42:48.220 I mean,
01:42:48.780 it's unbelievable.
01:42:49.240 But also on the coalition,
01:42:50.860 there's been a coalition of leadership as well.
01:42:53.080 I mean,
01:42:53.620 clearly Donald Trump is way head and shoulders above everybody else.
01:42:57.100 He's like,
01:42:57.500 you know,
01:42:57.720 in British terms,
01:42:58.800 the king,
01:42:59.400 you know,
01:42:59.920 he's there.
01:43:00.580 In British terms.
01:43:01.120 In British terms,
01:43:01.740 obviously,
01:43:02.140 because we wouldn't want to mention that here.
01:43:03.780 Be too difficult.
01:43:04.820 But,
01:43:05.120 suddenly you've got a Kennedy.
01:43:07.680 I know.
01:43:08.340 A Kennedy backing Trump.
01:43:10.780 And then you've got Elon Musk backing Trump.
01:43:14.100 And this is all part of this remarkable coalition that's formed.
01:43:17.620 It's incredible.
01:43:18.280 It's remarkable.
01:43:19.180 I will see you in London.
01:43:20.240 Look forward to it.
01:43:20.620 Najib Prash.
01:43:21.220 Thank you very much.
01:43:22.080 Thank you.
01:43:22.520 Thank you.
01:43:23.840 A big part of that coalition is the most powerful man,
01:43:27.700 man in sports,
01:43:28.980 one of the most powerful people in American culture.
01:43:33.480 Also a long time,
01:43:35.780 sincere personal friend of Donald Trump's.
01:43:38.880 And that would be the great Dana White,
01:43:40.260 who joins us now.
01:43:41.980 I'm sure coming just from seeing Trump right now.
01:43:45.340 How is he?
01:43:46.000 Yeah,
01:43:46.400 he's,
01:43:46.660 he's,
01:43:47.000 you know,
01:43:47.340 he's good.
01:43:48.440 You know,
01:43:49.120 nerve wracking.
01:43:50.140 Yeah.
01:43:50.440 You're watching this play out like this.
01:43:52.900 This is,
01:43:53.660 yeah,
01:43:54.320 this is,
01:43:54.700 this is the betting markets have him in Nevada at 61%,
01:43:58.920 likely come on 39.
01:44:01.200 I mean,
01:44:01.680 all indicators are really good.
01:44:03.220 Right.
01:44:03.880 Yeah.
01:44:04.180 I would have to say when the odds makers are saying you're going to win,
01:44:08.160 it's usually a good thing.
01:44:09.920 You know,
01:44:10.380 it's going to come down to probably Pennsylvania.
01:44:14.640 Right.
01:44:14.840 Yeah.
01:44:15.000 I mean,
01:44:15.560 but it looks like he's going to win a couple of States that you don't expect to
01:44:18.400 win too.
01:44:19.300 I don't know.
01:44:19.960 We're sitting there.
01:44:20.500 He's fine.
01:44:20.940 He's eating.
01:44:21.580 I can't eat.
01:44:22.660 And why are you fasting?
01:44:24.360 No,
01:44:24.800 I'm actually not fasting right now,
01:44:26.640 but I'm fasting.
01:44:28.940 I've,
01:44:29.380 this is the most invested thing I've been in since.
01:44:32.240 Well,
01:44:32.380 it's kind of crazy.
01:44:33.500 Yeah.
01:44:33.760 So you,
01:44:34.560 I mean,
01:44:35.040 I think I was there when you endorsed Trump.
01:44:36.780 I don't know why I think I was,
01:44:38.240 but I think I was when anyway,
01:44:39.740 you endorsed Trump.
01:44:40.960 You're one of the very first people in your world to do that.
01:44:44.520 Right.
01:44:44.920 You run a huge business.
01:44:47.160 All kinds of advertisers are very complicated.
01:44:49.300 No one in business makes political endorsements of Donald Trump.
01:44:51.680 Cause it's like the cost is can be really how you did it anyway.
01:44:54.020 Why'd you do that?
01:44:55.300 I,
01:44:55.580 I've been friends with the guy for a very long time.
01:44:58.320 He's a good human being.
01:45:00.600 Very good person.
01:45:01.440 Uh,
01:45:02.340 it's fascinating to see when the machine comes after you,
01:45:07.260 what is possible.
01:45:09.040 Uh,
01:45:09.500 I tried to break them financially, 0.65
01:45:10.920 try to throw them in jail. 0.98
01:45:13.580 Assassination attempt. 0.95
01:45:14.740 You know,
01:45:15.060 it's just,
01:45:15.460 it's,
01:45:15.820 it's,
01:45:16.040 it's unbelievable.
01:45:16.780 And I truly believe he's the only human being that I know of that could
01:45:23.560 have dealt with this.
01:45:24.280 And to actually be here tonight in the election,
01:45:28.200 looking good from the odds makers.
01:45:30.540 Uh,
01:45:31.080 it's just,
01:45:31.840 it's an,
01:45:32.360 it's an unbelievable rollercoaster ride.
01:45:33.600 You're in a business full of tough people.
01:45:35.260 So that's how I tell them all the time.
01:45:37.280 And I told them tonight,
01:45:38.400 he hasn't slept in like 48 hours.
01:45:40.500 He hasn't slept in 48 hours.
01:45:41.660 He's been going to all these different rallies.
01:45:44.060 You know,
01:45:44.600 he's one of the hard,
01:45:45.840 hardest working,
01:45:46.820 most resilient human beings that I've ever met in my life.
01:45:50.500 And he's a good person.
01:45:52.000 Uh,
01:45:52.520 you know,
01:45:53.440 we both have the privilege of knowing him personally.
01:45:56.240 And,
01:45:56.720 uh,
01:45:56.960 it's amazing when,
01:45:57.860 when,
01:45:58.200 the media and,
01:45:59.960 and the government starts to attack you.
01:46:02.960 What is possible?
01:46:04.220 And I truly believe that at all.
01:46:05.660 I mean,
01:46:05.940 to again,
01:46:07.600 if it wasn't risky,
01:46:09.020 more people would have done it,
01:46:10.380 but more people didn't,
01:46:11.440 you did it.
01:46:11.940 You're one of the very first people in your world to endorse Trump.
01:46:15.440 Did you face any penalty for that?
01:46:18.400 No,
01:46:18.740 you know,
01:46:19.040 it's fascinating.
01:46:19.840 So I don't post a political stuff ever right around the election.
01:46:23.940 I endorsed them,
01:46:24.540 uh,
01:46:25.260 in 16,
01:46:25.940 I endorsed them last year's put out a video.
01:46:27.800 I went hard on social media,
01:46:30.200 um,
01:46:31.860 this time.
01:46:32.540 And you start to watch if you're,
01:46:34.340 if you're going to lose followers,
01:46:35.360 I gained 17,000 followers in the last,
01:46:38.180 uh,
01:46:38.920 48 hours,
01:46:39.720 just literally posting hardcore political Trump stuff.
01:46:44.280 Yeah.
01:46:44.680 Actually,
01:46:45.040 most people would see their,
01:46:46.640 their followers dip.
01:46:47.740 Mine actually went up 20,000.
01:46:49.700 So now it's what we're completely bulletproof from that kind of stuff.
01:46:54.020 My,
01:46:54.300 my,
01:46:54.760 my base is hardcore Trump followers and,
01:46:58.660 and conservative.
01:46:59.800 And why,
01:47:00.480 why?
01:47:00.640 I don't know who knows.
01:47:01.960 It just,
01:47:02.780 it just played out that way.
01:47:03.880 I mean,
01:47:04.040 when you look at our business,
01:47:05.200 when I decided to go through COVID,
01:47:07.720 right,
01:47:08.260 our,
01:47:08.460 our,
01:47:08.700 our fan base grew 68% through COVID.
01:47:12.120 Um,
01:47:12.880 we didn't lay anybody off.
01:47:14.200 We,
01:47:14.400 we,
01:47:14.620 we,
01:47:15.000 uh,
01:47:15.300 everybody got paid their bonuses.
01:47:17.400 We honored every contract from fighter contracts to sponsorships,
01:47:21.080 to television deals,
01:47:22.200 everything.
01:47:22.940 And our,
01:47:23.720 our fan base supported us.
01:47:25.020 Our fighters wanted to fight.
01:47:26.240 My employees were ready to work.
01:47:28.280 I mean,
01:47:28.840 it's just,
01:47:29.380 it's,
01:47:29.820 it's actually pretty fascinating.
01:47:31.540 So when COVID first started,
01:47:33.480 you know,
01:47:34.480 everything started shutting down.
01:47:36.300 I brought all my employees into a big room and said,
01:47:38.800 uh,
01:47:39.400 I don't understand this thing.
01:47:41.140 Uh,
01:47:41.620 but if any of you,
01:47:42.560 you know,
01:47:43.540 don't feel safe and feel like you want to go home,
01:47:45.840 you're more than welcome to go home.
01:47:47.200 Nobody went home.
01:47:48.460 Everybody stayed.
01:47:49.400 And I said,
01:47:50.860 I'm going to figure this out.
01:47:51.900 Don't worry about this.
01:47:52.720 We're going to,
01:47:53.080 we're going to work through this.
01:47:54.520 And,
01:47:55.000 uh,
01:47:55.320 a couple of weeks later,
01:47:56.120 and that was when he was sitting in office and he actually,
01:47:58.280 put me on the sports task force to,
01:48:00.640 uh,
01:48:01.120 help get sports back sooner.
01:48:02.460 But you know,
01:48:03.220 nobody else was willing to do it.
01:48:04.540 So I said,
01:48:05.440 listen,
01:48:06.060 I'll be first.
01:48:07.320 I like being first.
01:48:09.160 And,
01:48:09.600 uh,
01:48:10.520 and we did it.
01:48:12.200 Wow.
01:48:13.240 And we live in America.
01:48:15.240 If I want to support somebody and vote for him and,
01:48:17.640 and,
01:48:17.880 and get behind him,
01:48:18.920 you know,
01:48:19.500 a candidate,
01:48:20.520 my right,
01:48:21.740 my right to do it.
01:48:22.760 And if you don't like the fact that I support him and I could care less.
01:48:28.900 So you're just,
01:48:29.760 you're living like it's 1985.
01:48:31.280 You're living like it's the country you grew up in.
01:48:33.320 Yeah,
01:48:33.660 exactly.
01:48:34.600 And nothing bad has happened to you.
01:48:36.080 It's all,
01:48:36.520 all been upside.
01:48:37.320 Let me tell you this,
01:48:37.960 not only that,
01:48:38.760 but you know,
01:48:39.260 all these people that are afraid to come out everywhere.
01:48:42.520 I go,
01:48:43.500 you know,
01:48:43.860 how many altercations I've had because I support Trump zero.
01:48:47.180 The answer is zero.
01:48:48.260 Everywhere I go,
01:48:49.400 it's the opposite.
01:48:50.220 People come up to me and thank me.
01:48:51.780 Thank you for what you're doing for our country.
01:48:53.400 Thank you for supporting the president.
01:48:56.040 You know,
01:48:56.740 that,
01:48:57.040 that's what happens to me when I go out in public.
01:48:59.500 That's wild.
01:49:00.600 Right.
01:49:00.940 So you live in Vegas.
01:49:02.060 Yep.
01:49:02.880 That's a key state.
01:49:04.640 It's huge.
01:49:05.440 Yeah.
01:49:05.860 So what do you,
01:49:06.700 and from what I'm hearing,
01:49:07.600 it's one of the biggest cheating states.
01:49:09.320 Clark County,
01:49:09.980 apparently.
01:49:10.620 Of course it is.
01:49:11.280 The county where Las Vegas is.
01:49:13.460 Culinary union.
01:49:14.840 Big time.
01:49:15.600 Yeah.
01:49:16.140 Yeah.
01:49:16.660 Unite here.
01:49:17.340 Um,
01:49:18.780 how do you feel about what's going to happen in that state?
01:49:21.480 Again,
01:49:22.080 my,
01:49:22.420 my,
01:49:22.880 uh,
01:49:24.160 feeling in Vegas is feels like there's a lot of support for Trump there.
01:49:28.280 Um,
01:49:29.040 when you think about our town,
01:49:30.460 he's not going to tax tips.
01:49:33.100 He's not going to tax overtime.
01:49:34.840 I mean,
01:49:35.240 that that's huge for that city.
01:49:36.820 Huge.
01:49:38.200 Uh,
01:49:38.780 yeah.
01:49:39.620 So hopefully we win it.
01:49:42.460 So,
01:49:42.500 uh,
01:49:42.960 here's Glenn Greenwald again for the first time all night.
01:49:45.120 The New York times needle no longer has the election as a toss up.
01:49:48.820 Now they're saying Trump has a 65% likelihood to win the election.
01:49:52.920 It is quote leaning Trump.
01:49:54.940 Now I think we can say fairly,
01:49:56.620 the New York times is probably not putting a thumb on the scale for Trump here.
01:50:02.220 I think that's fair to say.
01:50:03.500 Yeah.
01:50:05.140 Wow.
01:50:05.580 And here are the betting markets.
01:50:06.840 Here we're back to your world.
01:50:07.980 Uh,
01:50:08.380 Donald Trump question who,
01:50:10.000 when the presidential election,
01:50:11.900 Donald Trump,
01:50:12.480 74% Kamala Harris,
01:50:15.380 26% with almost $300 million at stake.
01:50:20.560 You have any money on this?
01:50:21.920 No,
01:50:22.220 I should have,
01:50:23.240 you know what?
01:50:23.560 I'm,
01:50:23.780 I'm,
01:50:23.980 I'm actually pissed at myself that I didn't bet after the debate.
01:50:27.580 I should have done it.
01:50:29.420 Yeah.
01:50:30.180 How much would you have bet?
01:50:31.640 I don't know.
01:50:33.060 Wait after the Trump debate.
01:50:34.200 Yeah.
01:50:34.920 After the debate with Kamala.
01:50:36.400 Really?
01:50:36.920 He actually went up.
01:50:37.640 Oh,
01:50:37.780 she went up a lot.
01:50:38.660 Yeah.
01:50:39.160 After the debate.
01:50:39.980 What'd you think?
01:50:40.540 So you thought he did well.
01:50:41.640 I should have bet.
01:50:42.260 No,
01:50:42.480 I didn't.
01:50:43.000 I said,
01:50:43.320 I should have,
01:50:44.300 I should have bet on it.
01:50:45.940 No,
01:50:46.120 but a lot of Republicans said,
01:50:47.360 Oh man,
01:50:47.800 he's,
01:50:48.360 he's in trouble.
01:50:49.160 I'll always bet on him.
01:50:50.280 I'll always bet on him. 0.99
01:50:51.920 He's a savage. 1.00
01:50:53.160 He's an absolute animal. 0.99
01:50:54.800 He's a hard worker.
01:50:56.560 He's absolutely.
01:50:57.520 Okay.
01:50:57.920 So,
01:50:58.160 so because I've talked to you a lot about your health regimen,
01:51:00.940 which is unbelievable.
01:51:01.900 And I should probably get on it soon.
01:51:04.280 I agree.
01:51:04.980 Yeah.
01:51:05.300 We're the,
01:51:05.720 we're the same.
01:51:06.180 I think we're the same age.
01:51:06.820 Yeah.
01:51:07.000 Yeah.
01:51:07.360 Yeah.
01:51:07.660 You should do it.
01:51:08.400 Yeah.
01:51:08.580 No,
01:51:08.900 I know.
01:51:09.280 I know.
01:51:09.620 I know.
01:51:10.000 I'm going to do it.
01:51:11.380 I'm going to, 0.99
01:51:11.800 I know I'm going to stop eating shit food as soon as this is over, 0.99
01:51:14.520 but let me just say, 0.99
01:51:16.000 Trump has also not taken your advice.
01:51:18.840 I'm not alone in that.
01:51:20.120 I've been all over.
01:51:20.900 I've been all over.
01:51:21.720 Okay.
01:51:21.880 But wait,
01:51:22.480 can I say I was the other night we were somewhere MSG,
01:51:25.080 I think.
01:51:25.360 Were you there?
01:51:25.940 Yeah.
01:51:26.280 Okay.
01:51:26.960 So we're waiting backstage with,
01:51:28.280 with Trump and his little,
01:51:29.340 and there's like Milky Ways and like all the stuff he likes,
01:51:34.000 which is by the way,
01:51:34.580 I'm not judging.
01:51:35.900 I like it all too.
01:51:37.180 Fanto.
01:51:37.680 There he is.
01:51:38.900 So I told him,
01:51:40.440 I told him,
01:51:41.180 listen,
01:51:41.620 you got to do this.
01:51:42.680 He's like,
01:51:43.220 ah,
01:51:44.060 you're too thin,
01:51:44.900 too thin.
01:51:45.680 You don't,
01:51:46.020 you look better before.
01:51:49.220 He said that?
01:51:50.440 Yeah.
01:51:50.640 He says,
01:51:51.120 yeah.
01:51:51.260 He says it all the time.
01:51:52.180 You're too thin.
01:51:53.000 I don't,
01:51:53.460 I don't like too thin.
01:51:54.540 I want,
01:51:54.840 I want some size.
01:51:55.740 He always tells me,
01:51:56.600 but listen,
01:51:59.140 it works for him.
01:52:00.020 No.
01:52:00.220 Okay.
01:52:00.640 That's okay.
01:52:01.220 But the energy level,
01:52:02.740 you know,
01:52:03.300 he's unstoppable.
01:52:04.680 It's,
01:52:04.900 it's,
01:52:05.220 you know,
01:52:05.740 it's,
01:52:06.000 it works for him.
01:52:06.660 Okay.
01:52:06.780 But you,
01:52:07.300 you have made,
01:52:08.040 just because of your job and your life.
01:52:09.500 And I've seen your gym,
01:52:10.820 your personal gym.
01:52:12.020 Like you've made a study of physiology,
01:52:13.920 like how the human body works,
01:52:15.380 how it's fueled,
01:52:16.780 how it processes what you eat.
01:52:19.220 Right.
01:52:19.780 How does this guy on Big Macs and Milky Ways stay up for 48 hours
01:52:24.200 and remain sharp?
01:52:25.660 Like,
01:52:25.800 how do you do that?
01:52:26.900 Big Macs,
01:52:27.940 Milky Ways and Cokes.
01:52:29.140 Yeah.
01:52:29.460 I mean,
01:52:29.820 it's literally,
01:52:30.980 we'll be at the fight.
01:52:32.540 He's 78.
01:52:33.400 He'll sit at the fights with me all night,
01:52:35.980 right?
01:52:36.260 All night.
01:52:36.700 You're talking like six hours.
01:52:37.840 Cause he shows up for the prelims.
01:52:39.240 We hang out in my back room.
01:52:40.740 Then we walk out and we watch the fights.
01:52:42.880 It's six hours.
01:52:43.960 So I'll ask him,
01:52:45.080 you want a water?
01:52:46.620 No,
01:52:46.800 no,
01:52:46.920 no.
01:52:47.460 And then somebody will bring him over a Coke and he'll drink Coke.
01:52:51.220 I've never seen him drink water ever.
01:52:54.560 I'm not saying he doesn't drink water.
01:52:56.500 I'm just saying I've never seen it.
01:52:58.140 And we're friends and I've been around him a long time and a lot.
01:53:01.200 Never seen a water.
01:53:02.740 So now I'm,
01:53:05.640 now I'm really in love,
01:53:06.520 but how does that work?
01:53:08.640 Like as a science matter?
01:53:10.480 Yeah.
01:53:10.660 I mean,
01:53:10.940 if you look at how sharp this guy is,
01:53:13.320 like I'm sitting with him,
01:53:14.760 I'm sitting with him right now at dinner and we're talking about the
01:53:17.820 election.
01:53:18.200 We're going back and forth.
01:53:19.120 He hasn't slept in 48 hours.
01:53:20.980 And God knows how much sleep he had before the 48.
01:53:25.120 I'm sure it wasn't a lot.
01:53:26.600 I'm sure it was under four.
01:53:27.840 Okay.
01:53:28.860 And his cognitive,
01:53:31.320 his energy level,
01:53:32.940 his,
01:53:33.340 uh,
01:53:33.780 you know,
01:53:34.120 so we're sitting there at the table,
01:53:35.640 right?
01:53:36.220 It's,
01:53:36.680 it's me,
01:53:37.660 him,
01:53:39.080 Elon Musk.
01:53:40.740 And I said,
01:53:42.360 uh,
01:53:42.940 he said,
01:53:43.560 Hey,
01:53:44.180 now the room's packed and everybody wants to get to him.
01:53:47.400 Right.
01:53:47.720 Right.
01:53:48.200 And they got the food at the other end of the room.
01:53:51.440 And he says,
01:53:52.120 Hey,
01:53:52.220 let's get up and walk over there and,
01:53:53.700 and,
01:53:53.940 and,
01:53:54.260 uh,
01:53:54.500 go look at the food and see what they got.
01:53:56.060 I said,
01:53:56.460 I think that's a bad idea.
01:53:58.240 And,
01:53:58.700 uh,
01:53:59.140 they'll bring you the food,
01:54:00.300 whatever you want.
01:54:01.980 Nope.
01:54:02.480 He wants to get up and he wants to walk across the room,
01:54:05.740 shaking everybody's hand,
01:54:07.120 taking pictures,
01:54:08.000 goes over,
01:54:08.760 picks out his food.
01:54:09.580 Then we walk all the way around back to the thing.
01:54:11.540 What did he get?
01:54:12.600 Uh,
01:54:12.920 he got roast beef and,
01:54:14.080 and,
01:54:14.400 uh,
01:54:14.720 Joe stone crab.
01:54:15.600 You said you've never in all the years,
01:54:19.760 you've not seen him drink water.
01:54:21.500 This is one of my favorite tweets of all time.
01:54:23.260 This is from October 16th,
01:54:24.380 2012.
01:54:25.440 It's from the Trump Twitter archive.
01:54:26.980 And I'm quoting the Coca-Cola company is not happy with me.
01:54:30.380 That's okay. 0.99
01:54:31.340 I'll still keep drinking that garbage. 0.98
01:54:34.560 Now that was 12 years ago. 0.99
01:54:36.440 He's still alive.
01:54:37.700 He's about to win the presidential election, 1.00
01:54:39.860 drinking that garbage. 1.00
01:54:40.680 Like, 0.99
01:54:41.240 doesn't this call into question everything you thought you knew about the human body?
01:54:44.480 Well,
01:54:44.880 I think that he is,
01:54:46.960 he's a different animal,
01:54:48.080 uh,
01:54:48.560 because I was,
01:54:49.540 I was doing the same thing minus the Coca-Cola.
01:54:52.000 And I was,
01:54:52.600 I had one foot in the grave.
01:54:53.760 So,
01:54:54.080 uh,
01:54:54.620 and I'm,
01:54:54.920 and I'm 55.
01:54:56.020 Okay.
01:54:56.260 Not 78.
01:54:57.240 He's,
01:54:57.740 he's,
01:54:57.980 he's a different animal.
01:54:59.080 He is, 0.99
01:54:59.380 he is an absolute beast. 0.99
01:55:01.280 This guy doesn't sleep. 0.89
01:55:02.760 He works hard.
01:55:03.420 He flies everywhere.
01:55:05.920 I will send him a text at 10 o'clock in Las Vegas so that he will get the text in the morning when he wakes up.
01:55:14.220 Right.
01:55:15.140 He texts me right back immediately.
01:55:17.000 Every time I text him,
01:55:18.280 he's up,
01:55:19.580 you know,
01:55:20.320 I,
01:55:20.880 he gets pissed off when I,
01:55:22.760 when I FaceTime him and he hates FaceTime.
01:55:25.500 He's like,
01:55:25.840 you are the only one I will answer FaceTime for.
01:55:28.280 I hate this,
01:55:29.500 but,
01:55:29.920 uh,
01:55:30.140 he's always up.
01:55:31.300 I saw Kid Rock doing it at dinner the other night.
01:55:33.100 He was in his,
01:55:33.720 he was in his PJs and he answered it.
01:55:36.480 Yeah.
01:55:37.480 Yeah.
01:55:37.800 He's,
01:55:37.960 shouldn't scientists study him?
01:55:40.340 Yes.
01:55:41.120 Yes,
01:55:41.380 they should.
01:55:42.020 No,
01:55:42.260 he's a,
01:55:42.660 he's a,
01:55:43.040 he's an absolute workhorse and a great human being.
01:55:47.180 I love the guy.
01:55:48.700 Dana White.
01:55:49.420 Amazing.
01:55:50.620 Congratulations on what looks like a victory.
01:55:53.600 I hope it is.
01:55:54.760 Me too,
01:55:55.160 brother.
01:55:55.440 Not going to marble.
01:55:56.020 Great to see you.
01:55:56.660 Thank you.
01:55:57.200 Thank you.
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01:57:05.000 A lot of the most fervent supporters of Trump and a lot of the smartest and most thoughtful supporters of Trump
01:57:25.820 are people who didn't originally support Trump and they didn't change their minds for reasons of expedience.
01:57:34.980 J.D. Vance would be in this category.
01:57:36.480 They really thought through what Trump was about and people who've been forced to think through their views tend to have much deeper and more durable views.
01:57:45.280 So into this category,
01:57:47.820 along with J.D. Vance,
01:57:49.180 I would put Senator Mike Lee of Utah,
01:57:50.960 who is a long time sort of libertarian,
01:57:55.560 a man of principle,
01:57:56.260 a constitutional scholar,
01:57:57.700 suspicious of Trump,
01:57:58.960 has wound up becoming one of Trump's great champions and allies and most articulate allies in the U.S. Senate.
01:58:04.640 We're really happy to come here.
01:58:06.160 Senator,
01:58:06.320 thank you very much.
01:58:07.020 Thank you.
01:58:07.560 Good to be with you.
01:58:08.240 So,
01:58:08.560 again, 0.99
01:58:09.320 I feel so low asking all these dumb political questions, 0.97
01:58:11.780 but you've run a lot of races and you've won them all.
01:58:14.880 Where do you think this one stands?
01:58:16.600 Look,
01:58:17.040 Trump's going to win this.
01:58:18.600 You really think so?
01:58:19.280 I think he's going to win it.
01:58:20.480 And I think it could easily end up being an electoral landslide.
01:58:23.900 It's too early to predict that right now,
01:58:25.620 but it's,
01:58:25.940 it's got the makings of it.
01:58:28.080 I think around the country,
01:58:30.760 people are tired of the policies that have gotten us to where we are.
01:58:34.040 I really,
01:58:35.640 for the life of me,
01:58:36.360 cannot understand how Kamala Harris has gotten away with distancing herself from her own policies. 1.00
01:58:43.140 Policies of the man who she championed.
01:58:45.440 Policies that she shares.
01:58:46.940 She can't identify a single piece of daylight between her and Joe Biden.
01:58:51.940 And so I think that's coming back to haunt her.
01:58:54.400 And I don't think there's any way she can win.
01:58:56.180 And I think Trump's going to finish very strongly tonight.
01:58:58.380 The fact that Trump is leading among young people,
01:59:01.780 18 to 29 in a bunch of different states,
01:59:04.040 is just shocking to me.
01:59:06.080 I think of a theory of Kamala Harris is like,
01:59:09.020 she's cool.
01:59:09.960 She's a wine mom. 0.87
01:59:11.060 She loves abortion and dancing. 0.92
01:59:12.900 She's friends with P Diddy or whatever.
01:59:14.300 She's like hip. 1.00
01:59:15.620 Taylor Swift loves her.
01:59:18.140 You know,
01:59:18.460 you sort of,
01:59:19.000 if you watch.
01:59:19.560 Good things.
01:59:20.240 Well,
01:59:22.640 not in my view,
01:59:23.420 but if you watch the view as I do every day,
01:59:26.020 assiduously,
01:59:26.740 you think like she's clearly the choice of like the hip young people.
01:59:30.340 Right. 1.00
01:59:30.480 And it turns out the hip young people think she's like a garbage person. 1.00
01:59:33.860 Like they're not impressed at all. 0.99
01:59:35.180 Right.
01:59:36.480 She's unwatchable.
01:59:37.960 Yeah.
01:59:38.140 That's why they don't let her on TV very much. 0.95
01:59:39.840 You know,
01:59:40.000 her big TV debut with CNN turned out to be 17 minutes of unwatchability.
01:59:46.560 Did you try to watch it?
01:59:47.680 Yeah,
01:59:48.080 I did.
01:59:48.480 What'd you think?
01:59:49.080 It didn't go well.
01:59:50.700 You know,
01:59:51.960 I,
01:59:52.440 I,
01:59:52.680 I tried to think,
01:59:53.680 okay,
01:59:53.860 well,
01:59:54.060 you know,
01:59:54.600 she showed up,
01:59:56.300 uh,
01:59:56.820 she spoke in what appeared to be English,
01:59:59.020 but that's about where the connections ended.
02:00:01.800 I don't think she connected with anyone on that.
02:00:03.900 And I think her whole party must've been thinking,
02:00:05.520 what did we do?
02:00:06.640 We just commandeered the entire electoral process within the democratic party to put her up without ever having won a primary. 0.92
02:00:13.700 And what did we do?
02:00:15.380 But it was too late to back out by that.
02:00:16.780 Well,
02:00:16.940 it just,
02:00:17.360 it seems like,
02:00:18.000 look,
02:00:18.160 I get that they want,
02:00:19.380 you know,
02:00:19.680 a woman. 0.97
02:00:20.420 They want someone who's at least part black, 0.99
02:00:22.920 I guess, 0.96
02:00:23.840 you know,
02:00:24.100 they want some non white racial category fine,
02:00:27.240 but like,
02:00:27.720 okay,
02:00:27.900 those are your parameters.
02:00:29.060 You can still find a lot of people who couldn't speak fluent English who are smart.
02:00:32.340 Like how do they wind up with her?
02:00:34.240 Like she doesn't mean the baseline requirement for politics,
02:00:37.740 which is being able to talk.
02:00:39.000 I mean,
02:00:39.200 you're in politics.
02:00:39.840 You tell me.
02:00:40.660 Yes.
02:00:41.020 Well,
02:00:41.260 look,
02:00:41.440 I think it was easy for them to go to her because naturally she's vice president.
02:00:46.480 She was next in line.
02:00:47.380 Of course.
02:00:47.680 Right.
02:00:47.860 So they,
02:00:48.160 they,
02:00:48.380 they went there,
02:00:49.100 but I think nobody stopped to look when they were selecting her as vice president in the first place.
02:00:53.940 Can she really go the distance?
02:00:56.500 Does she has the policy chops to do this? 1.00
02:00:58.940 Does she have the,
02:00:59.580 the ability to communicate,
02:01:01.160 uh,
02:01:01.900 to where she can be the standard bearer for the democratic party? 0.99
02:01:04.960 Yeah.
02:01:05.120 I really don't think they fully examined that in their unfettered exuberance,
02:01:09.400 uh,
02:01:10.040 uh,
02:01:10.240 at the time they chose her in 2020,
02:01:12.120 they just thought,
02:01:12.720 Oh,
02:01:12.880 it'll all work out.
02:01:14.240 But I mean,
02:01:14.800 you've been around this.
02:01:15.960 How long have you been in the Senate?
02:01:16.920 14 years,
02:01:17.440 14 years.
02:01:17.980 Right.
02:01:18.200 So you've seen a lot of the process and isn't there a point at which you sit down with the person and like really talk,
02:01:26.280 go out to dinner.
02:01:27.160 Yes.
02:01:27.640 Get a sense.
02:01:28.300 Is this person,
02:01:28.940 can this person,
02:01:29.640 you know,
02:01:30.480 defend his or her views?
02:01:32.520 Does he or she have real views?
02:01:34.340 Like who is this?
02:01:35.020 Like no one ever did that with her.
02:01:36.320 It is unthinkable to me that they would do that.
02:01:38.700 Particularly Joe Biden.
02:01:40.360 Joe Biden was tying himself to her.
02:01:42.720 He knew that at the time.
02:01:43.820 And Tucker,
02:01:44.760 before I endorse a Senate candidate,
02:01:46.720 particularly if it's in a,
02:01:47.740 in a primary,
02:01:48.620 close primary,
02:01:49.340 you're famous for this,
02:01:50.160 by the way,
02:01:50.520 I give them interview.
02:01:51.980 I talk for like a couple of hours,
02:01:54.360 bare minimum,
02:01:55.020 because I want to make sure that I know.
02:01:56.820 Now that,
02:01:57.300 that is a far cry from the presidency of the United States.
02:02:00.280 It is unthinkable to me that I would tie my name to somebody when endorsing them in a Senate primary.
02:02:06.800 But this is magnified so many hundreds of times over with the presidency.
02:02:11.420 I don't know what was going on there,
02:02:13.060 but I don't think there was a whole lot going on with Joe Biden to begin with.
02:02:15.500 It does make you pretty nervous about the whole infrastructure of the United States,
02:02:18.500 because if they would elevate someone like Kamala Harris consistently throughout her whole career
02:02:22.820 to the presidential nominee,
02:02:26.120 who are they making air traffic controllers and heart surgeons and who's running the VA? 1.00
02:02:30.460 And like,
02:02:30.900 there are a lot of important jobs in this country.
02:02:33.480 And if the criteria are just the way you look,
02:02:36.240 right,
02:02:36.560 right.
02:02:36.820 Totally incompetent people are in really important positions right now,
02:02:40.220 which is scary.
02:02:41.000 Well,
02:02:41.260 you mentioned the FAA and air traffic controllers.
02:02:44.060 That's one of those areas where they have taken a very radical DEI position,
02:02:48.480 where they've actually taken out some of their minimum criteria in the past,
02:02:53.300 aptitudes for math and science and that sort of thing.
02:02:56.100 And they've replaced it literally with demographic material of the sort that really
02:03:00.460 violates on its face,
02:03:03.300 the equal protection clause.
02:03:04.460 So that's a big problem.
02:03:06.700 And it's a problem that creates bad consequences.
02:03:08.820 You know,
02:03:09.180 when those who drafted the 14th amendment and the equal protection clause,
02:03:12.580 what they had in mind was that race doesn't matter and that government's position must 0.57
02:03:17.500 always be that race doesn't matter.
02:03:20.320 And so all of a sudden,
02:03:21.360 when you make it matter,
02:03:23.000 you're excluding all kinds of other things that do matter.
02:03:25.520 And that's a problem.
02:03:27.260 It's really shocking.
02:03:28.940 I mean,
02:03:29.200 she's,
02:03:29.520 and you're not allowed to say she's an affirmative action hire,
02:03:31.940 but gosh,
02:03:33.260 I mean,
02:03:33.660 she really is like,
02:03:34.800 she's the definition of it. 0.99
02:03:36.000 But,
02:03:36.140 but the reason that's,
02:03:37.280 that's a fair observation here is that Joe Biden himself told us that.
02:03:41.040 Oh,
02:03:41.180 I know.
02:03:41.480 Joe Biden told us that was her qualification.
02:03:44.380 Just like he did with Ketanji Brown Jackson.
02:03:46.380 He said,
02:03:46.880 I'm going to pick someone who is of this gender and of this race.
02:03:50.860 That is really insulting to the person he picks.
02:03:53.520 It's unbelievable.
02:03:54.860 So let me just ask you one last question.
02:03:56.080 I don't know the answer to this and maybe you will.
02:03:58.120 This is a daily mail piece.
02:04:00.740 Just came out this afternoon.
02:04:03.040 U S to test hypersonic nuclear missile tonight,
02:04:06.080 just hours after election polls close amid growing world war three fears.
02:04:11.260 What the hell is that?
02:04:13.360 I don't know. 0.74
02:04:13.800 That seems like a really odd choice.
02:04:15.280 I don't know why November 5th would have to be the day when that it's an
02:04:19.640 intercontinental ballistic missile.
02:04:21.660 The minute man to scheduled to blast off between 1101 PM and 501 AM from
02:04:28.080 California's Vandenberg Space Force base.
02:04:31.960 Why,
02:04:32.600 why would you have a nuclear missile test on the same day as a presidential
02:04:38.900 election?
02:04:39.920 Like,
02:04:40.260 let me put the most favorable spin on this that I possibly can.
02:04:43.360 The most favorable spin I can put on that one was that some pinheads in the
02:04:47.100 Pentagon are totally tone deaf on political matters and didn't have the
02:04:52.060 election in mind when they did this.
02:04:54.180 If that's the case,
02:04:55.180 that's really weird.
02:04:56.080 I don't like this at all.
02:04:57.680 I think there are 364 other days they could have chosen for this year.
02:05:01.980 Why election day?
02:05:03.260 Why,
02:05:03.560 why the night after,
02:05:04.460 uh,
02:05:05.020 uh,
02:05:05.520 the entire country's just voted.
02:05:06.940 I think that's really bizarre.
02:05:08.640 Well,
02:05:08.740 it is bizarre.
02:05:09.880 It is bizarre.
02:05:11.100 Maybe you can get them to change it.
02:05:12.260 Yeah.
02:05:12.400 Give them a call.
02:05:12.940 Tucker,
02:05:13.120 they'll listen to you.
02:05:14.120 Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
02:05:16.020 Thank you for you've been such an incredible,
02:05:18.280 you just spoke on Trump's behalf.
02:05:20.220 I thought you gave one of the best.
02:05:21.220 Was that it?
02:05:21.780 Madison Square Garden.
02:05:22.760 That was in Arizona.
02:05:24.500 Arizona.
02:05:25.000 Sorry.
02:05:25.320 I've been on the road too much.
02:05:27.680 Well,
02:05:28.020 you're amazing.
02:05:28.540 Big arena.
02:05:29.100 No,
02:05:29.260 it was a big arena.
02:05:30.060 Sorry.
02:05:30.360 It's been a blur of big arenas.
02:05:32.240 Um,
02:05:32.440 thank you.
02:05:33.000 Thank you.
02:05:33.420 Great to see you.
02:05:34.160 Thank you.
02:05:34.680 Thank you.
02:05:36.700 So when,
02:05:37.680 uh,
02:05:38.080 historians look back on this campaign and presumably books will be written about it and
02:05:41.700 probably the first six or seven of them will be completely dishonest.
02:05:45.840 But when the distance has grown sufficient that we can be honest about what happened,
02:05:51.320 I think we will understand that the endorsement of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of Donald Trump in this
02:05:59.720 campaign,
02:06:00.240 late in this campaign was,
02:06:01.340 was a,
02:06:01.880 was a sea change in American politics.
02:06:03.980 Not,
02:06:04.320 not just to a benefit to Trump at the time,
02:06:06.540 but a sign of a true realignment long overdue,
02:06:10.440 uh,
02:06:11.200 in the parties.
02:06:12.320 And,
02:06:12.800 um,
02:06:13.920 I think it's really obvious.
02:06:15.040 I wish more people would say it.
02:06:16.340 Bobby Kennedy joins us now.
02:06:17.540 Thank you very much.
02:06:18.540 Thanks for having me.
02:06:19.300 So do you have,
02:06:20.620 do you have,
02:06:21.540 I mean,
02:06:21.820 you've been right in the middle of it.
02:06:23.360 You've campaigned so hard for Trump that it's,
02:06:25.960 was a little stunning.
02:06:27.260 Actually,
02:06:27.880 uh,
02:06:28.900 I think you're working every bit as hard on his behalf as you were on your own behalf.
02:06:32.960 Um,
02:06:34.340 which is amazing.
02:06:35.060 But have you had any time to think about what this means?
02:06:38.100 You're Kim,
02:06:38.640 you are campaigning for Donald Trump.
02:06:41.140 It looks like,
02:06:42.300 um,
02:06:43.200 he's likely to win,
02:06:44.960 says the New York times.
02:06:45.800 Like what,
02:06:46.480 what does this mean for American politics going forward?
02:06:48.800 You know,
02:06:49.360 he's unlike any politician that we've seen in American history.
02:06:53.300 um,
02:06:54.760 maybe,
02:06:55.360 uh,
02:06:56.540 the,
02:06:56.880 the,
02:06:57.060 the one comparison that I would make would be Andrew Jackson.
02:07:00.260 Yes.
02:07:01.020 Cause Andrew Jackson came in without any money or,
02:07:04.640 or,
02:07:04.940 you know,
02:07:05.340 or backing from powerful interests.
02:07:07.780 Everybody was against him,
02:07:08.880 but he,
02:07:09.120 he was truly a populist candidate and he came in and did things that nobody thought was possible to challenge the banks.
02:07:16.980 Yes.
02:07:17.620 Yes.
02:07:18.020 And dismantle the banks and,
02:07:19.880 uh,
02:07:20.620 to,
02:07:21.200 to,
02:07:22.740 to,
02:07:23.260 uh,
02:07:23.860 um,
02:07:24.880 uh,
02:07:25.880 install a lot of people who,
02:07:28.740 you know,
02:07:29.120 were,
02:07:29.520 uh,
02:07:30.940 were kind of heretics in public office.
02:07:33.900 And I,
02:07:36.140 a lot of people think that of Trump is a conventional politician because the last time around he can,
02:07:41.360 he initially appointed a lot of very conventional people,
02:07:45.820 etc.
02:07:48.100 People don't remember almost his entire cabinet was gone within two years.
02:07:52.140 Yes.
02:07:52.800 And as he learned to govern and he wants to do,
02:07:55.980 you know,
02:07:56.340 he will do what he wants to do.
02:07:58.580 And I spent two days with him recently and he was saying,
02:08:03.660 things that were,
02:08:05.140 uh,
02:08:05.740 kind of shocking to me.
02:08:07.380 You know,
02:08:07.720 he was saying things like that,
02:08:09.520 you know,
02:08:09.860 that the kind of change is the level of change that he wants to make in our government.
02:08:14.540 I think it's going to be unprecedented.
02:08:17.600 And shocking to you in a good way.
02:08:20.080 Yeah.
02:08:20.540 In a good way.
02:08:21.420 But just,
02:08:22.040 you know,
02:08:22.340 that any poly it's so impolitic,
02:08:24.520 he's an impolitic guy.
02:08:26.760 And he,
02:08:27.180 uh,
02:08:28.340 he,
02:08:29.000 uh,
02:08:29.660 I think he,
02:08:30.460 you know,
02:08:30.960 he's a guy that does what he wants to do.
02:08:34.380 Well,
02:08:34.520 can I give you an example?
02:08:35.600 He wants a revolution and I think he's going to get one.
02:08:39.540 This is,
02:08:40.320 this,
02:08:40.680 uh,
02:08:40.840 this isn't a tweet from you.
02:08:42.400 I'm noticing this 23.5 million views.
02:08:46.320 Let me just read your tweet back to you.
02:08:47.700 On January 20th,
02:08:48.920 the Trump white house will advise all us water systems to remove fluoride from public water.
02:08:53.580 Period.
02:08:54.440 Fluoride is an industrial waste associated with arthritis,
02:08:57.220 bone fractures,
02:08:57.980 bone cancer,
02:08:59.000 IQ loss,
02:08:59.820 neurodevelopmental disorders,
02:09:01.200 and thyroid disease.
02:09:02.700 President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump want to make America healthy again.
02:09:06.840 Um,
02:09:07.820 I mean,
02:09:08.300 that just caused,
02:09:09.400 well,
02:09:10.000 23.5 million people thought it was pretty great.
02:09:12.980 The news media hated it.
02:09:14.700 Is that,
02:09:15.980 you know,
02:09:16.660 it's interesting because there was a case that was handed down on October 4th on fluoride and it was an Obama appointed judge,
02:09:26.780 federal judge.
02:09:28.160 And it was brought to challenge EPA for never having done safety studies.
02:09:32.780 You know,
02:09:33.580 fluoride was put in the water.
02:09:35.260 No way.
02:09:36.220 Yeah.
02:09:36.520 Fluoride was put in the water in 1940s and it was,
02:09:40.720 it was put in the water to stop tooth decay.
02:09:44.200 Yes.
02:09:44.740 But now it's recognized that most of our mouthwashes and toothaches have fluoride in them and you don't need fluoride in the water.
02:09:51.780 And it's a very inefficient way of preventing tooth decay because you're getting it in people's blood.
02:09:57.120 And that's how it's exposing the teeth.
02:10:00.580 And,
02:10:00.820 and as it turns out,
02:10:03.120 fluoride is very,
02:10:03.980 very dangerous.
02:10:04.700 It causes IQ loss.
02:10:06.080 We know,
02:10:06.940 you know,
02:10:07.180 they,
02:10:07.380 they haven't done a lot of studies that they should have done,
02:10:10.420 but there are extensive studies that show if you put fluoride in water at double the rate that EPA now allows,
02:10:18.540 that is in all of our water systems,
02:10:20.900 they use it in this country.
02:10:22.280 And it causes dramatic IQ loss in children and particularly in unborn fetuses.
02:10:29.860 It also causes bone cancer.
02:10:32.500 And we had an explosion of bone cancer beginning in the 1940s.
02:10:37.140 It causes arthritis and it causes,
02:10:41.320 and it causes the deterioration of bones,
02:10:44.840 of bone fractures.
02:10:46.020 And it causes thyroid and thyroid injuries.
02:10:50.280 It also calcifies the pineal gland of the human brain,
02:10:54.500 which is the,
02:10:55.420 the,
02:10:55.980 the,
02:10:56.260 which is the part of our brain that actually creates our spiritual feelings.
02:11:02.080 And,
02:11:02.680 and so it's something,
02:11:04.740 yeah,
02:11:05.680 it's something that,
02:11:07.420 that you wouldn't want in a water supply.
02:11:10.760 And it's a very easy,
02:11:11.800 it's going to have to be taken out anyway,
02:11:13.400 because of this court case,
02:11:14.620 but the EPA will drag its feet and take 10 years or 15 years to do it.
02:11:18.500 This is so shocking to me because,
02:11:20.420 you know,
02:11:20.740 being against fluoride in the water was the single most reliable marker of mental illness,
02:11:26.680 according to the U S media for like 60 years.
02:11:29.320 Well,
02:11:29.560 you know,
02:11:29.860 it was a,
02:11:30.480 it was a,
02:11:31.680 it was the subject of a conspiracy theory.
02:11:34.540 Right.
02:11:35.000 It seemed put in our water by communists.
02:11:36.780 Exactly.
02:11:37.220 To sap the,
02:11:38.480 the vigor from the American people.
02:11:40.540 And as it turns out,
02:11:43.880 you know,
02:11:44.400 it actually,
02:11:46.320 the,
02:11:46.840 the,
02:11:47.020 the health injuries that were predicted for it were not exactly that,
02:11:51.960 but there are profound health injuries and it's just insane to have it in our water.
02:11:55.260 It's absolutely insane.
02:11:56.360 So why would EPA fight the removal?
02:11:59.840 CDC says it's one of the 10 greatest health introductions of any,
02:12:04.960 or inventions of any in the 20th century.
02:12:10.440 And so they,
02:12:11.340 you know,
02:12:11.520 they've stuck their neck.
02:12:12.460 It's like everything else that they do.
02:12:14.020 They stick their neck out on something.
02:12:15.920 They promote it to the American public and then they don't want to dial it back.
02:12:18.960 They do not want to admit that they made a mistake.
02:12:22.460 And they do this with a lot of products.
02:12:24.280 Once they approve them,
02:12:25.660 they're going to fight to keep them there.
02:12:28.020 But,
02:12:28.540 you know,
02:12:28.940 it's one of the easiest thing you can do to start restoring American health is just get the
02:12:33.720 fluoride of the water.
02:12:34.580 You're going to have a higher IQ children.
02:12:37.380 You're going to have less bone cancer,
02:12:39.520 less.
02:12:39.840 This is crazy.
02:12:40.960 Yeah.
02:12:41.440 So here's something else that you can do.
02:12:42.980 It should not be controversial.
02:12:46.240 You took,
02:12:47.440 you know,
02:12:47.660 whatever.
02:12:48.020 Anyone who questions vaccines gets attacked.
02:12:50.080 I don't even want to bring up the topic with you.
02:12:52.000 You spent a lot of time debating it.
02:12:53.280 I'm not going to ask you to again,
02:12:54.740 but the question of whether any product should have blanket liability from lawsuits.
02:13:02.220 Yeah.
02:13:02.640 A liability shield.
02:13:04.200 A liability.
02:13:04.980 I don't understand that.
02:13:06.440 Like if I,
02:13:06.940 I have a product,
02:13:08.260 nicotine pouches.
02:13:09.340 I can't get the Congress to require every American to use these,
02:13:13.700 fire people who don't use them,
02:13:14.880 and then get blanket shield from a lawsuit.
02:13:17.380 Like that's so crazy that any pharma company has a blanket shield from lawsuits for any product
02:13:22.520 that it sells.
02:13:23.340 Can that be fixed?
02:13:25.100 Well,
02:13:25.500 that,
02:13:25.980 you know,
02:13:26.520 is done by statutes.
02:13:28.420 Yeah.
02:13:28.660 There's a 1986 law that gave the vaccine companies a liability shield.
02:13:36.120 Yes.
02:13:36.620 And the problem is with that,
02:13:38.620 the,
02:13:38.720 and the reason that happened,
02:13:40.860 Tucker,
02:13:41.940 when I was a kid,
02:13:43.020 there were three vaccines.
02:13:44.060 And my kids now were required to take 72 vaccines.
02:13:48.900 And they're,
02:13:49.620 they've just added,
02:13:50.440 I think another six vaccines,
02:13:52.060 the COVID vaccines and flu vaccines to the schedule.
02:13:56.400 The,
02:13:57.060 in the early seventies,
02:13:58.940 they added a vaccine called the diphtheria tetanus and pertussis vaccine.
02:14:03.580 And NIH studies show that that vaccine,
02:14:06.460 that particular vaccine,
02:14:07.340 which has been withdrawn in America,
02:14:09.020 we still give it to African children,
02:14:11.860 causes death or profound brain injuries in one out of every 300 kids who gets it.
02:14:18.180 So they took it off the market,
02:14:19.780 but Wyeth,
02:14:20.520 which is now Pfizer,
02:14:22.540 went to the Reagan White House and told Reagan,
02:14:25.360 look,
02:14:25.580 we're losing $20 in downstream liability for every dollar that we're going to do.
02:14:28.940 We're collecting in revenue.
02:14:31.720 And unless you give us a liability shield,
02:14:34.700 we're going to stop making all vaccines.
02:14:37.080 And the Reagan actually said to them sensibly,
02:14:39.900 and it wasn't just Reagan.
02:14:41.320 My uncle Ted Kennedy was the head of the Senate committee at that time that went
02:14:45.220 along with us very reluctantly.
02:14:47.320 Reagan was very reluctant.
02:14:49.520 He said to the vaccine companies,
02:14:51.480 why don't you make them safe?
02:14:56.220 Wyeth said,
02:14:57.080 because vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.
02:14:59.460 And that phrase is actually in the preamble of the statute.
02:15:03.020 And it's in the Brucewitz decision,
02:15:05.080 which is the Supreme Court decision that upheld the statute.
02:15:08.880 Now,
02:15:09.320 I just want to make this clear.
02:15:11.180 I don't want to take vaccines away from people.
02:15:13.860 Well, right.
02:15:13.960 I don't want to impose my choices on the American public.
02:15:17.000 I understand.
02:15:17.420 If vaccines are working for you,
02:15:18.800 you ought to be able to get them.
02:15:20.700 And I'll make sure that that happens.
02:15:22.500 But people should have informed choice.
02:15:25.340 So they should have good science.
02:15:27.120 And that tells them the costs and the benefits of these products.
02:15:31.580 And particularly since they're being ordered to use them,
02:15:34.340 76 million kids a year are required to use them.
02:15:38.880 And they're healthy children.
02:15:40.840 So it's the only medical product that's given to healthy people.
02:15:44.100 So you want a product like that to be extra solid,
02:15:48.380 to make sure there's no risk.
02:15:49.840 Because you can take,
02:15:50.600 you know,
02:15:50.920 there's certain risks that you'll take if you're sick to get better.
02:15:54.340 Of course.
02:15:55.260 But if you're not sick,
02:15:57.060 and you shouldn't be required to take a product unless it is ironclad,
02:16:02.840 unless you know what the,
02:16:06.220 you know,
02:16:06.600 what all the costs and benefits are.
02:16:08.120 And the problem with vaccines is that they,
02:16:12.100 they were originally introduced by the public health service,
02:16:15.960 which was,
02:16:16.580 is one of the five military,
02:16:18.220 uniformed military services.
02:16:19.760 That's why there's a surgeon general.
02:16:22.400 And the public health service introduced them and push them as a national
02:16:28.160 security defense against biological attacks on our country.
02:16:32.160 So they wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax or 0.62
02:16:38.040 with some other biological agent,
02:16:39.380 they could quickly formulate a vaccine and then deploy it to 220 million
02:16:43.440 Americans civilians without regulatory impediments.
02:16:47.600 A normal medical product takes about eight years to get to market because it
02:16:52.160 has to go through double blind,
02:16:53.500 placebo controlled trials.
02:16:54.940 And you need to see long-term effects.
02:16:56.600 There are many effects from every medical product that have long diagnostic
02:17:01.200 horizons,
02:17:02.060 long incubation periods.
02:17:03.200 They didn't want to go through that because they said it's going to be a
02:17:06.700 national emergency.
02:17:08.580 So instead of calling it a medicine,
02:17:10.720 we're going to call it a biologic and we're going to exempt biologics from
02:17:14.520 pre-licensing safety studies.
02:17:17.840 So there's no vaccine on that schedule.
02:17:20.600 That's 72 vaccines that has ever gone through a pre-licensing safety study,
02:17:25.700 placebo controlled trial against a real placebo.
02:17:28.040 And that's wrong because we,
02:17:31.500 that means that nobody knows what the risk profiles are on these products.
02:17:35.940 And nobody can tell you whether that product is averting more problems than
02:17:40.380 it's causing.
02:17:41.140 And what I will do,
02:17:42.660 you know,
02:17:43.240 if I'm given this shop in the white house is I'll make sure that those 1.00
02:17:47.500 studies get done that there are people on the panels that approve these
02:17:52.700 products that are not loaded with conflicts of interest.
02:17:56.100 So it's real science by,
02:17:57.840 you know,
02:17:58.180 by disinterested people.
02:18:00.600 Right.
02:18:01.220 And that doctors and patients and Americans know exactly what the costs and
02:18:06.140 benefits of every vaccine are and can make a rational decision.
02:18:10.600 God bless you for that.
02:18:13.280 When you say,
02:18:13.960 if I'm given this job,
02:18:14.720 can you be for people who aren't following this,
02:18:16.300 can you be more specific about what job you're talking about?
02:18:18.700 President Trump has asked me to,
02:18:21.580 he's asked me to do three things.
02:18:23.760 He's asked me in terms of the public health agencies,
02:18:28.720 he's asked me number one,
02:18:30.400 to get rid of the corruption,
02:18:31.660 rid of the conflicts,
02:18:33.040 the,
02:18:33.380 the,
02:18:33.640 the agency capture phenomena that has turned these,
02:18:37.440 these public health agencies away from public health.
02:18:41.380 and their,
02:18:42.840 their,
02:18:42.860 their principal objective now is to advance the mercantile interests of the
02:18:47.360 pharmaceutical companies.
02:18:48.580 Yes.
02:18:49.440 And he wants to get rid of number one,
02:18:51.000 get rid of the corruption.
02:18:52.520 Number two,
02:18:53.540 return these agencies to the gold standard.
02:18:56.500 scientific research and,
02:19:01.160 and evidence-based research,
02:19:03.220 empirically based science that they,
02:19:05.920 when you and I were kids,
02:19:07.040 they were famous for around the world.
02:19:09.280 They've lost that reputation now because,
02:19:12.740 because they've been captured by industry.
02:19:14.780 And then number three,
02:19:16.440 to end the chronic disease epidemic.
02:19:19.200 And president Trump has told me he wants to see concrete,
02:19:22.640 measurable results within two years.
02:19:24.340 And I promised him that I could do that.
02:19:26.980 Now,
02:19:27.660 whether that means as an HHS secretary or whether it means,
02:19:32.860 uh,
02:19:33.340 as a health czar within the white house,
02:19:35.380 we haven't figured out yet,
02:19:37.100 but one way or another,
02:19:38.980 we are going to end the chronic disease.
02:19:41.700 And the reason that I think that you will be given the authority to do
02:19:44.620 that is because I've been at a bunch of different public events with you
02:19:48.340 over the past couple of months.
02:19:50.160 And the reception that you receive from Trump voters is so shocking to me.
02:19:53.720 Second only to Trump himself,
02:19:55.640 all the people I've seen with Trump,
02:19:57.400 you get the biggest response from Republican voters.
02:20:02.200 It's just,
02:20:02.580 it's so,
02:20:03.260 is that shocking to you?
02:20:04.980 Well,
02:20:05.140 you know,
02:20:05.500 it is shocking.
02:20:06.440 And,
02:20:06.660 you know,
02:20:06.820 I was just out here.
02:20:07.980 I mean,
02:20:08.080 your name is Bobby Kennedy and they love you.
02:20:10.680 Well,
02:20:10.960 they,
02:20:11.320 you know,
02:20:11.720 there's been a complete inversion between the Democratic and Republican
02:20:14.980 party.
02:20:16.360 When I was a kid,
02:20:17.440 the Democratic party was the party of peace.
02:20:19.360 Now it's the party of war.
02:20:20.900 It's the party of Dick Cheney,
02:20:22.660 John Bolton,
02:20:23.280 the military industrial complex,
02:20:25.360 the Ukraine war.
02:20:26.360 They own it.
02:20:27.920 It was the party of constitutional rights.
02:20:31.680 Now it's the party of surveillance and censorship.
02:20:34.440 And the weaponization of the federal law enforcement agencies against
02:20:39.220 American democracy.
02:20:41.220 It was the party that stood up for working people or poor people, 0.76
02:20:46.640 for labor unions.
02:20:48.120 And today it is the party of big pharma,
02:20:52.000 wall street,
02:20:52.860 big tech,
02:20:53.600 big ag,
02:20:54.720 the military industrial complex,
02:20:56.960 big data.
02:20:58.840 And,
02:20:59.520 and,
02:21:00.100 and,
02:21:00.720 and wall street.
02:21:01.800 And,
02:21:03.200 and it is also the party that's completely abandoned the working class
02:21:08.480 base in this country.
02:21:09.520 You look at the labor unions with Sean O'Brien,
02:21:12.180 who's the head of the biggest union in our country.
02:21:14.420 And it was a beautiful man.
02:21:16.780 Excellent guy.
02:21:18.220 I agree.
02:21:18.920 He's an insurgent.
02:21:20.200 He came out of Boston.
02:21:21.360 He overthrew the old half a legatees of the teamsters.
02:21:25.600 And he is the most popular president that they've had in generations.
02:21:29.360 And almost 70%,
02:21:32.140 I think 65% of teamsters are now are Trumpers.
02:21:37.860 This is true of labor unions across the country.
02:21:40.200 The rank and file that the leaders,
02:21:42.220 the union are often still Democrat.
02:21:44.540 The rank and fire overwhelmingly Republican.
02:21:47.040 And that was not true when I was a kid.
02:21:48.960 And,
02:21:49.340 you know,
02:21:49.700 one of the interesting things when I was a kid,
02:21:53.140 the Republican party was the party that had all the money.
02:21:55.500 Because they had all the big corporations on their side.
02:21:58.840 The country club party.
02:22:00.220 70,
02:22:00.600 when I was a kid,
02:22:01.760 70% in 1980,
02:22:03.520 when I ran part of my uncle Ted's presidential campaign,
02:22:09.340 70% of the wealth in this country was owned by Republicans.
02:22:12.560 30% was owned by Democrats.
02:22:14.660 In 2020,
02:22:16.300 70% of the wealth in this country was owned by Democrats.
02:22:19.260 And 30% Republicans.
02:22:21.100 So you've had this complete inversion of the two parties.
02:22:25.120 And I'll give you another example.
02:22:27.880 My uncle Ted Kennedy wrote Title IX.
02:22:31.440 The Democratic Party,
02:22:32.560 one of the core issues was women's sports.
02:22:35.600 And today,
02:22:36.580 the Democratic Party is the party that is dismantling women's sports. 0.99
02:22:40.520 I read that there have been now,
02:22:43.500 I think over 2,000 or 3,000 medals
02:22:49.580 that have been given to male athletes playing women's sports.
02:22:54.620 So those are medals that did not go to women who,
02:22:58.900 you know,
02:22:59.380 who should be getting them.
02:23:00.660 I have a,
02:23:01.200 I have a niece and,
02:23:03.700 you know,
02:23:03.980 her brother,
02:23:04.800 twin brother,
02:23:05.420 Jackson.
02:23:05.820 My niece Zoe
02:23:09.120 is at Boston College.
02:23:11.500 She's on the softball team at Boston College.
02:23:13.900 She's a full scholarship
02:23:14.900 and she's one of the best players on the team.
02:23:17.780 And when she was growing up,
02:23:20.180 all of her siblings would come to Cape Cod in the summer
02:23:23.440 and they'd play with,
02:23:24.640 you know,
02:23:24.940 all their Kennedy cousins.
02:23:27.100 And I took their family skiing during the winter,
02:23:30.380 but she wouldn't come
02:23:31.300 because she had to stay at home
02:23:34.020 and practice her sport
02:23:35.260 because her whole life trajectory
02:23:38.460 was making sure she got a college scholarship
02:23:42.120 and that was how she was going to define,
02:23:44.920 she planned her life around it.
02:23:47.100 It would seem really unfair
02:23:49.260 if a boy could walk off a softball field
02:23:53.860 or a baseball field at Boston College,
02:23:56.040 walk onto the woman's softball team
02:23:57.740 and take her spot.
02:23:58.800 And that,
02:24:00.800 it seems weird
02:24:01.900 that the Democrats are,
02:24:03.260 you know,
02:24:03.620 are urging us
02:24:04.580 to allow that to happen,
02:24:05.900 but that's exactly what's happening
02:24:07.800 and nobody can argue with it.
02:24:09.540 But did you,
02:24:11.280 I'm looking at the betting markets now
02:24:13.000 with almost $300 million at stake,
02:24:15.420 Donald Trump
02:24:15.980 is the choice of 74% predicting
02:24:19.500 he's going to win
02:24:20.360 seems significant.
02:24:22.080 Did,
02:24:22.660 if someone had asked you
02:24:24.020 like at dinner 10 years ago,
02:24:26.000 do you think at some point
02:24:26.840 Bobby Kennedy
02:24:27.420 you will change the Republican Party?
02:24:30.440 I would have bet a million dollars.
02:24:33.200 I had a very,
02:24:34.420 very good odds for somebody.
02:24:36.920 So,
02:24:37.520 yeah,
02:24:38.080 you know,
02:24:38.780 even a year ago,
02:24:41.240 this would have been unimaginable
02:24:43.040 to be,
02:24:43.400 for me to be here tonight.
02:24:45.600 Why didn't the Kamala Harris campaign, 1.00
02:24:47.880 I mean,
02:24:48.120 you suspended your campaign.
02:24:50.520 Why didn't,
02:24:51.520 I don't understand
02:24:52.660 you had demonstrated
02:24:54.100 broad popularity,
02:24:55.820 particularly among,
02:24:56.440 with young people
02:24:57.100 and with politically agnostic people
02:24:59.520 who could kind of go either direction.
02:25:02.200 Why wouldn't,
02:25:03.040 why didn't they call you
02:25:03.960 and say,
02:25:04.340 what can we do to bring you
02:25:05.300 to our campaign?
02:25:06.580 Well,
02:25:06.920 I mean,
02:25:07.480 and this is another
02:25:08.920 sort of interesting
02:25:10.200 feature of this whole trend.
02:25:15.280 The Democratic Party
02:25:16.220 that I grew up with
02:25:17.480 was the party
02:25:18.260 that was fighting
02:25:19.360 to,
02:25:20.500 the party of Robert Kennedy
02:25:21.680 and John Kennedy
02:25:22.440 and Martin Luther King
02:25:23.280 was fighting
02:25:23.880 to make sure
02:25:24.420 every American
02:25:25.200 could vote for
02:25:26.120 whatever candidate
02:25:27.220 they wanted to vote for.
02:25:28.260 And the Democratic Party
02:25:30.660 today
02:25:31.160 is the Democratic Party
02:25:32.500 that has abandoned democracy.
02:25:34.140 And also,
02:25:35.160 you know,
02:25:35.440 the censorship angle,
02:25:37.480 what they're doing
02:25:38.200 with censorship
02:25:38.680 of saying the government
02:25:39.620 ought to be the arbiter
02:25:40.540 of what's misinformation
02:25:41.620 or disinformation.
02:25:42.720 And the word misinformation
02:25:45.100 is just a euphemism.
02:25:46.520 It has nothing to do
02:25:47.260 with factual accuracy,
02:25:48.520 you know.
02:25:49.340 It's just a euphemism
02:25:50.700 for anything
02:25:51.480 that challenges
02:25:53.380 government orthodoxies.
02:25:54.840 So they've lost,
02:25:56.940 my uncle said,
02:25:57.900 a contra nation 0.96
02:26:01.580 or government
02:26:02.200 that wants to
02:26:04.440 silence debate
02:26:06.020 is a government
02:26:06.560 that's lost faith
02:26:07.380 in the people.
02:26:08.060 So they've lost faith
02:26:09.000 in the demos,
02:26:10.260 the people,
02:26:12.360 and including
02:26:13.460 having to abolish elections.
02:26:15.120 So during the primary,
02:26:17.320 they wouldn't let me
02:26:19.680 run an election
02:26:20.420 against Joe Biden.
02:26:21.480 They literally
02:26:22.060 canceled the primaries
02:26:23.300 in many of the states.
02:26:24.540 They moved
02:26:25.000 the New Hampshire primary,
02:26:26.720 which was the primary
02:26:27.660 that I was very strong in.
02:26:30.160 They actually
02:26:30.680 adopted 60 rules,
02:26:33.240 and one of those rules
02:26:34.480 was to illustrate
02:26:36.280 the absurdity,
02:26:38.020 the kind of Orwellian absurdity
02:26:39.620 that I found myself
02:26:41.480 confronting.
02:26:43.120 They adopted a rule
02:26:44.280 that said that
02:26:45.000 after I was already
02:26:46.680 doing very well
02:26:47.500 in New Hampshire,
02:26:49.280 that any Democratic Party
02:26:50.700 candidate
02:26:51.120 that stepped
02:26:51.760 a foot
02:26:52.480 into the state
02:26:53.700 of New Hampshire
02:26:54.240 could not win
02:26:55.100 any delegates there,
02:26:56.120 no matter how many votes
02:26:57.020 they want.
02:26:58.360 So they were rigging
02:26:59.420 the party
02:26:59.880 to make sure
02:27:00.700 that they could
02:27:01.280 protect the president
02:27:02.240 who was cognitively impaired.
02:27:04.540 And they made sure
02:27:06.660 he didn't debate anybody.
02:27:07.800 I was winning
02:27:09.840 in all these demographics.
02:27:11.300 I was winning,
02:27:12.160 beating both candidates,
02:27:13.420 both Trump and Biden,
02:27:14.960 and people,
02:27:15.980 and Americans
02:27:16.460 under 35.
02:27:17.640 I was beating them
02:27:18.340 in the battleground states.
02:27:20.960 And Americans 0.95
02:27:21.720 under 45,
02:27:22.560 I was beating them
02:27:23.820 with independent voters.
02:27:25.720 And head-to-head races,
02:27:27.280 I was beating both candidates.
02:27:28.940 And so I could have beaten,
02:27:30.740 you know,
02:27:30.980 I could have won the election
02:27:32.060 for the Democrats
02:27:33.000 if they had allowed me to run.
02:27:35.740 And I'm not saying
02:27:36.460 I'm the only one.
02:27:37.420 There are probably
02:27:37.840 many candidates
02:27:38.600 that could have been
02:27:39.340 outperformed Joe Biden,
02:27:41.000 but they wouldn't let us run.
02:27:43.340 And then they did,
02:27:44.720 you know,
02:27:44.980 when they had the debate
02:27:46.720 and it was exposed
02:27:48.220 to the world,
02:27:48.920 what they knew
02:27:49.780 inside the White House,
02:27:52.380 that President Biden
02:27:53.260 had these severe,
02:27:55.160 debilitating cognitive deficits.
02:27:58.240 They,
02:27:58.840 he had already won
02:27:59.820 the,
02:28:00.520 technically,
02:28:01.140 the primaries
02:28:01.820 that they did have,
02:28:03.660 but they just performed
02:28:04.640 a palace coup against him.
02:28:05.840 We don't even know
02:28:06.460 how it happened.
02:28:07.300 And then they picked
02:28:08.160 a candidate
02:28:08.660 who never got a single vote.
02:28:10.860 So you had this,
02:28:12.440 this democracy-free
02:28:14.660 primary process
02:28:16.140 and,
02:28:16.960 and,
02:28:17.720 you know,
02:28:17.940 the Democratic Party
02:28:19.080 defense of it
02:28:19.840 was extraordinary.
02:28:21.400 One of the great moments
02:28:22.800 of this campaign,
02:28:23.780 for me,
02:28:24.360 the television moments,
02:28:26.280 was when Chris Cuomo
02:28:27.340 was standing on the floor
02:28:28.400 of the Democratic Convention
02:28:29.920 and he pointed up
02:28:31.220 to the upper decks
02:28:32.260 with the owner's boxes
02:28:33.640 on that,
02:28:34.700 you know,
02:28:35.000 upper rim.
02:28:36.880 And he said,
02:28:37.800 those are the people
02:28:38.740 that are running this party
02:28:40.280 and making these choices.
02:28:41.580 Those are the people
02:28:42.320 that are,
02:28:43.060 you know,
02:28:43.460 and we don't know,
02:28:44.340 nobody knows who they are.
02:28:45.420 They're the billion-dollar
02:28:46.400 Democratic donors.
02:28:48.840 you know,
02:28:50.360 and so they abolished
02:28:51.520 democracy
02:28:52.220 and they chose
02:28:54.880 a candidate
02:28:55.420 who is not,
02:28:56.900 has not been a good candidate,
02:28:58.480 a candidate
02:28:58.980 who does not seem
02:29:00.600 to be able
02:29:00.960 to talk off script.
02:29:03.280 The problem
02:29:04.200 that brings up
02:29:05.080 is who's writing
02:29:05.920 the scripts for it.
02:29:07.720 And at the Democratic Convention,
02:29:09.280 it was the neocons.
02:29:11.080 The speech
02:29:11.920 that she gave
02:29:12.640 was the most
02:29:13.260 undemocratic speech
02:29:14.280 I've ever heard
02:29:14.880 at a Democratic Convention.
02:29:15.920 it was a speech
02:29:16.700 all about
02:29:17.420 this belligerent,
02:29:19.460 pugnacious speech
02:29:20.460 about America
02:29:21.160 being the policeman
02:29:22.060 of the world
02:29:22.700 and, you know,
02:29:23.360 dominating the world
02:29:24.440 and running the world.
02:29:26.180 And right before her,
02:29:28.880 immediately before her,
02:29:31.180 they had a CIA
02:29:32.120 former director
02:29:33.460 speak,
02:29:35.060 which, you know,
02:29:35.640 that was anathema
02:29:36.480 to the Democratic Party
02:29:37.580 that I grew up with.
02:29:38.540 So who is writing
02:29:40.640 her scripts
02:29:41.300 and who will be
02:29:42.500 writing her scripts
02:29:43.360 if she gets
02:29:44.160 into the White House?
02:29:45.000 Who will be writing?
02:29:46.860 She can't do
02:29:47.780 conversations like this.
02:29:49.900 She can't do,
02:29:51.040 she's not going to be able
02:29:52.000 to do conversations
02:29:52.860 with world leaders.
02:29:54.760 She needs a script 1.00
02:29:55.700 for everything she does
02:29:56.940 and who is going
02:29:58.120 to be doing that?
02:29:58.760 It's going to be,
02:29:59.520 as my son Connor says,
02:30:02.120 a bunch of anonymous
02:30:03.340 men in lanyards,
02:30:05.120 you know,
02:30:05.780 men and women
02:30:06.340 of lanyards
02:30:07.060 who are,
02:30:08.180 who we don't know,
02:30:09.200 who if you sneak
02:30:10.280 into the Oval Office
02:30:11.280 at two o'clock
02:30:12.560 in the morning,
02:30:13.040 there's a guy there
02:30:13.900 with his feet up
02:30:14.700 on the desk
02:30:15.240 and say,
02:30:15.700 oh, you've never seen,
02:30:17.380 who's like the real
02:30:18.440 president of the United States,
02:30:19.880 you know,
02:30:20.380 and you don't know
02:30:21.320 who it is.
02:30:23.060 We need somebody
02:30:24.400 who's willing
02:30:26.240 to stand up
02:30:27.140 to the military
02:30:30.340 industrial complex
02:30:31.440 for these big institutions.
02:30:32.600 Let me say
02:30:33.040 one other thing.
02:30:34.880 When my uncle
02:30:35.880 was president,
02:30:37.440 he,
02:30:38.040 you know,
02:30:38.560 during the Cuban
02:30:39.700 missile crisis,
02:30:41.300 he had the entire
02:30:42.400 intelligence apparatus
02:30:43.520 in the military brass
02:30:44.660 telling him, 0.98
02:30:45.400 you've got to bomb Cuba. 1.00
02:30:47.200 You've got to bomb, 1.00
02:30:48.060 there's 64 missiles 0.97
02:30:50.360 in Cuba 0.97
02:30:51.000 and you've got to bomb 1.00
02:30:51.920 each one of those. 0.99
02:30:53.620 My uncle said to them,
02:30:55.700 well,
02:30:56.580 how many men
02:30:58.040 is that going to kill?
02:30:59.020 And they said,
02:30:59.600 well,
02:30:59.720 there's 500 guys
02:31:01.020 at each of those sites
02:31:02.160 who are manning
02:31:03.520 those sites.
02:31:03.960 my uncle said,
02:31:06.020 are those Russians
02:31:06.800 or are they Cubans?
02:31:07.940 And they said,
02:31:08.640 we think they're probably
02:31:09.400 Russians,
02:31:09.920 but we don't know.
02:31:11.540 My uncle said, 1.00
02:31:12.280 if I kill all those Russians, 1.00
02:31:14.400 isn't Khrushchev 1.00
02:31:15.080 going to have to go
02:31:15.720 into Berlin
02:31:16.780 and we're in World War III?
02:31:19.020 And they said,
02:31:19.520 we don't think
02:31:19.980 he has the guts
02:31:20.560 to do it.
02:31:21.120 And that was their logic.
02:31:24.640 And my uncle,
02:31:25.440 you know,
02:31:25.800 had a vote
02:31:26.500 of his ex-comm committee,
02:31:27.920 which was 13 people,
02:31:29.080 including my father
02:31:29.920 and Bob McNamara,
02:31:31.080 who were making the decision
02:31:33.240 and they voted
02:31:34.260 eight to six to bomb.
02:31:36.360 This was the last day.
02:31:37.940 And my uncle said,
02:31:38.980 the sixes have it. 0.89
02:31:40.500 In other words,
02:31:41.280 he was making the decision.
02:31:42.800 He would take advice for them.
02:31:45.640 Well,
02:31:45.860 when I was on the plane
02:31:46.780 the other day
02:31:47.260 with President Trump,
02:31:48.160 we were talking
02:31:50.600 about the Mideast
02:31:51.360 and he took a piece of paper
02:31:52.760 and he drew on it
02:31:54.200 a map of the Mideast
02:31:55.620 with all the nations on it,
02:31:57.220 which most Americans
02:31:58.660 couldn't do.
02:32:00.280 And he wrote
02:32:01.540 in each country
02:32:03.120 the troop strength.
02:32:05.480 And he was particularly
02:32:06.860 looking at the border
02:32:07.980 between Syria and Turkey
02:32:09.380 and he said,
02:32:09.920 we have 500 men
02:32:10.860 on the border
02:32:11.280 of Syria and Turkey
02:32:12.720 and a little,
02:32:13.440 you know,
02:32:13.780 encampment
02:32:14.400 that was bombed.
02:32:16.320 And he said,
02:32:17.380 there's 700 men
02:32:18.140 50,000 troops
02:32:19.140 in Turkey.
02:32:19.780 There's 250,000
02:32:20.940 in Syria.
02:32:21.620 If they go up
02:32:22.200 against each other,
02:32:23.000 we're in the middle.
02:32:24.000 And he said
02:32:24.920 to his generals,
02:32:25.760 well,
02:32:26.360 what's going to happen
02:32:26.880 to those 500 men?
02:32:29.240 And his generals
02:32:30.020 said to him,
02:32:30.580 they're going to be
02:32:31.000 cannon fodder.
02:32:32.760 And he said,
02:32:33.480 get them out.
02:32:34.420 So we want
02:32:35.580 a president
02:32:36.260 who has that knowledge
02:32:38.780 and can ask
02:32:39.620 those rational questions
02:32:40.900 and then is going
02:32:41.720 to make good decisions
02:32:42.660 for the American public.
02:32:44.040 Make sure I got this right.
02:32:45.060 Trump on the plane
02:32:46.100 the other day
02:32:46.500 drew a map
02:32:47.480 of the Mid-East.
02:32:49.200 An accurate map.
02:32:50.160 Yeah,
02:32:50.500 an accurate map
02:32:51.360 of the Mid-East.
02:32:51.800 With troop strength.
02:32:53.340 Yes,
02:32:53.860 with troop strength
02:32:54.540 in each of the nations.
02:32:56.500 So,
02:32:57.000 you know,
02:32:57.400 I saw that
02:32:58.360 and it reminded me
02:32:59.640 of the Cuban
02:33:00.320 missile crisis
02:33:01.140 and I know
02:33:02.160 Kamala Harris
02:33:03.000 could not do that.
02:33:04.080 You know,
02:33:04.280 I've seen her interviews
02:33:05.380 explaining Ukraine war
02:33:07.300 and they're sophomoric.
02:33:09.640 so,
02:33:10.560 and I don't want
02:33:11.260 to say bad things
02:33:12.200 about people.
02:33:12.920 No, I get it.
02:33:14.200 But,
02:33:14.600 you know,
02:33:15.180 she just is not,
02:33:16.560 she does not have
02:33:17.540 any idea
02:33:18.200 about the uses of power.
02:33:20.240 She does not have
02:33:21.540 the capacity
02:33:22.180 to sign up
02:33:22.920 to a military
02:33:23.540 and intelligence apparatus
02:33:24.800 that wants this country
02:33:26.200 in perpetual war.
02:33:27.540 And I don't think that,
02:33:29.240 you know,
02:33:29.580 and I do believe
02:33:30.740 when Trump says
02:33:31.840 that she's going
02:33:33.540 to get us
02:33:33.920 into nuclear war,
02:33:34.660 they're not talking
02:33:35.380 to the Russians.
02:33:36.020 She will never
02:33:36.780 have a conversation
02:33:37.760 with Putin
02:33:38.240 and Biden won't either.
02:33:40.560 It's crazy.
02:33:40.920 And Trump,
02:33:41.700 you know,
02:33:41.940 Trump,
02:33:42.380 the Democrats
02:33:43.120 all criticized Trump
02:33:44.520 because he went
02:33:45.200 and talked to Kim Jong-un
02:33:46.320 and he talked to Putin.
02:33:47.520 They say,
02:33:47.880 oh, he loves dictators.
02:33:48.780 No.
02:33:49.860 My uncle
02:33:50.500 was in the same situation
02:33:52.640 where the CIA
02:33:54.360 had no idea
02:33:55.360 what was happening
02:33:56.020 in Moscow.
02:33:57.160 And, you know,
02:33:57.880 they had law,
02:33:58.480 all of their spies
02:34:00.520 had been killed.
02:34:02.280 And they just said,
02:34:03.480 you know,
02:34:03.980 here's the way
02:34:04.540 you think.
02:34:04.960 My uncle was saying,
02:34:05.680 how do you know that?
02:34:06.500 They said it's a monolith.
02:34:08.320 And my uncle said,
02:34:10.420 it couldn't be a monolith.
02:34:11.740 It has to be like
02:34:12.440 Boston politics
02:34:13.360 where they're all
02:34:14.040 trying to stab 0.97
02:34:14.680 each other in the back. 0.99
02:34:16.080 You know,
02:34:16.360 and the CIA
02:34:18.340 had no idea.
02:34:19.120 So my uncle
02:34:19.900 installed a hotline
02:34:21.200 in the White House
02:34:23.160 and a hotline
02:34:23.980 in our house
02:34:24.560 at the Caymans.
02:34:25.400 The wires of it
02:34:26.180 are still coming
02:34:26.920 out of my brother's,
02:34:27.800 the wall of my brother's house,
02:34:29.080 red wires.
02:34:31.040 So he could pick up
02:34:31.940 the phone
02:34:32.340 and talk to Khrushchev
02:34:33.260 24 hours a day.
02:34:34.240 And then they started
02:34:35.140 corresponding with each other.
02:34:36.440 They sent 26 letters
02:34:37.820 back and forth.
02:34:38.560 They were smuggled
02:34:39.420 by a GRU spy
02:34:41.620 called Georgie Bolshkoy
02:34:42.860 who my uncle trusted
02:34:45.260 and Khrushchev trusted
02:34:46.220 because they didn't want
02:34:47.260 to involve
02:34:47.760 the military-industrial complex
02:34:49.200 of the ideology.
02:34:50.720 Those guys are still there.
02:34:52.060 They still want
02:34:52.740 perpetual war.
02:34:54.380 And we need a president
02:34:56.040 who's going to make up
02:34:57.840 his own mind
02:34:58.480 about things
02:34:59.120 and who is going to
02:35:00.040 challenge
02:35:00.420 his own military advisors,
02:35:02.700 people like
02:35:03.560 Tony Blinken
02:35:04.280 and Jake Sullivan
02:35:06.460 and the people
02:35:07.160 who want to keep
02:35:07.880 and Victoria Nuland,
02:35:09.200 the people who want
02:35:10.120 to keep us
02:35:10.760 in a perpetual war
02:35:12.020 and who are going
02:35:12.660 to get us
02:35:13.120 into a nuclear war.
02:35:13.920 Well, I think
02:35:14.340 we may get one.
02:35:16.160 The New York Times
02:35:17.020 is,
02:35:17.820 this is breaking right now,
02:35:19.320 is estimating,
02:35:20.320 again,
02:35:20.520 it's the New York Times,
02:35:21.300 who knows,
02:35:22.420 but that Trump
02:35:23.580 will win
02:35:24.760 the popular vote.
02:35:26.080 They're saying
02:35:26.540 he is more likely
02:35:27.180 than Kamala Harris
02:35:27.860 to win the popular vote
02:35:28.900 as of right now.
02:35:30.340 I don't think
02:35:30.900 a Republican
02:35:31.300 has won the popular vote
02:35:32.320 since 2004.
02:35:33.320 Is that,
02:35:33.620 I think that's right?
02:35:34.420 Yeah, I think,
02:35:35.340 yeah.
02:35:36.080 Since the post-9-11 election,
02:35:37.880 George W. Bush,
02:35:38.920 but it's,
02:35:39.580 you know,
02:35:39.860 20 years,
02:35:40.440 never happened.
02:35:41.060 Yeah.
02:35:41.460 So if that happened,
02:35:42.780 you were a figure out
02:35:45.460 of history,
02:35:46.700 now very obviously,
02:35:48.740 and I appreciate
02:35:49.560 everything you've done
02:35:50.440 and I can't make
02:35:51.240 you see what you are.
02:35:51.820 Well, I appreciate
02:35:52.480 what you've done.
02:35:53.340 I've done much.
02:35:54.240 I'm not going to make
02:35:54.740 America healthy again,
02:35:55.560 but I think you are.
02:35:56.640 Thank you, Robert.
02:35:57.620 We'll do it together.
02:35:58.320 Thank you.
02:35:58.880 Appreciate it.
02:35:59.340 Thank you, Tucker.
02:36:01.560 Amazing.
02:36:06.780 So we have,
02:36:07.660 you know,
02:36:08.720 whined pretty nonstop
02:36:10.160 for the past,
02:36:11.240 well, I have
02:36:11.740 for the past 10 years
02:36:12.620 about the loathsome state
02:36:14.160 of the American media.
02:36:16.000 Doesn't mean everyone
02:36:16.940 in the media is loathsome.
02:36:18.140 There are a few
02:36:18.900 honest voices.
02:36:20.460 Bye, guys.
02:36:22.120 See ya.
02:36:24.100 And Miranda Devine
02:36:25.120 is at the top of the list.
02:36:26.080 Miranda Devine
02:36:26.640 of the New York Post
02:36:27.700 who single-handedly
02:36:29.400 took on the censorship state
02:36:31.280 in 2020
02:36:34.200 with the
02:36:35.100 100 Biden laptop story.
02:36:36.440 Thank you very much.
02:36:38.300 Thank you, Tucker.
02:36:39.180 Looks like Trump's
02:36:39.740 going to win.
02:36:41.260 Well, it certainly
02:36:41.820 feels like that
02:36:42.560 in the ballroom
02:36:43.260 where Trump came in
02:36:45.200 at about quarter to nine
02:36:46.400 to a huge,
02:36:47.540 you know,
02:36:48.240 ovation from the crowd.
02:36:49.460 The ballroom here.
02:36:50.260 The ballroom here
02:36:50.860 at Mar-a-Lago.
02:36:51.620 I've been stuck
02:36:51.740 in this little room.
02:36:52.440 I have no idea
02:36:53.540 what's going on.
02:36:54.460 Great food.
02:36:54.800 There's sushi.
02:36:56.200 Is that true?
02:36:56.880 Wellington.
02:36:57.920 Look at what we're
02:36:58.380 missing, Benna.
02:36:59.400 I mean, it's great food.
02:37:01.020 Lots of champagne flowing.
02:37:02.940 And he's sitting there.
02:37:04.380 He's got Dana White
02:37:05.220 next to him.
02:37:05.880 And then on the other
02:37:06.460 side of Dana White
02:37:07.280 is Elon Musk.
02:37:08.600 And everyone's chatting
02:37:09.960 very companionably,
02:37:11.140 but Trump keeps
02:37:11.900 on turning around
02:37:12.640 because CNN's
02:37:13.560 on the big screen
02:37:14.300 behind him.
02:37:15.200 And all he wants
02:37:16.000 to see is Jake Tapper's
02:37:17.300 sad face.
02:37:18.080 And Jake Tapper
02:37:20.960 and all the CNN people 0.96
02:37:21.800 looking miserable
02:37:22.540 actually as the night's
02:37:23.840 going on.
02:37:25.240 I was on the set
02:37:26.780 at CNN in 2000
02:37:28.200 when Bush won.
02:37:29.260 Yeah.
02:37:30.580 Or when Gore didn't win
02:37:32.520 more precisely.
02:37:33.420 I remember the sadness
02:37:34.340 then.
02:37:34.840 It's so nice to see
02:37:35.660 they haven't changed.
02:37:38.180 We should be kind
02:37:39.460 to them.
02:37:40.160 So the,
02:37:40.760 okay,
02:37:41.360 there he is.
02:37:43.600 There is that,
02:37:44.380 the affirmance
02:37:45.100 in CNN are looking
02:37:45.960 very, very upset.
02:37:47.320 Grim and do.
02:37:47.920 Very.
02:37:48.620 Wearing a vest,
02:37:49.320 you don't see that
02:37:49.800 very often.
02:37:51.540 So Trump in the
02:37:52.460 betting markets now,
02:37:53.540 86%,
02:37:55.040 $304 million
02:37:57.160 on the line.
02:37:58.640 Who will win
02:37:58.960 the presidential election?
02:37:59.900 86% of
02:38:01.320 bettors
02:38:02.280 believe Donald Trump.
02:38:04.220 Doesn't mean he's
02:38:04.780 going to win,
02:38:05.400 but it means that
02:38:06.900 he seems to be winning.
02:38:08.580 But that's moved
02:38:09.760 enormously today.
02:38:10.760 It has moved.
02:38:11.280 Yeah.
02:38:11.700 So where are we in
02:38:12.240 Pennsylvania?
02:38:12.800 Ben, will you bring
02:38:13.860 that up a little bit more?
02:38:14.720 Trump is ahead,
02:38:16.180 it looks like.
02:38:17.140 Ooh.
02:38:17.760 Wow.
02:38:18.180 That's quick.
02:38:18.860 Sizably ahead with
02:38:20.600 54% of
02:38:22.720 votes counted.
02:38:24.420 That's flipped
02:38:25.000 in the last hour.
02:38:26.000 Yeah, it has.
02:38:26.880 But you know,
02:38:27.600 it's,
02:38:28.220 what are we,
02:38:28.860 two hours after
02:38:29.700 polls closed in
02:38:30.380 Pennsylvania?
02:38:31.240 And postal votes,
02:38:32.120 they can count first.
02:38:33.800 Two hours and 23 minutes
02:38:34.980 after they closed.
02:38:36.600 It really,
02:38:37.320 I mean,
02:38:37.560 since you're from
02:38:38.300 a foreign country,
02:38:39.120 long time
02:38:39.700 American,
02:38:41.220 but from abroad,
02:38:42.440 you have international
02:38:43.480 perspective,
02:38:44.740 the way that our votes
02:38:45.800 are counted
02:38:46.620 does seem
02:38:47.540 like a national
02:38:48.400 shape. 0.89
02:38:48.600 Crazy. 0.69
02:38:49.320 I know.
02:38:49.600 Okay, it is, right?
02:38:50.500 It really is.
02:38:51.500 Okay.
02:38:51.900 Yeah.
02:38:52.260 I mean, look,
02:38:53.020 Australia is a tiny country,
02:38:54.240 but you know the result
02:38:55.540 within a few hours.
02:38:57.340 Same with the UK,
02:38:58.260 same with Europe.
02:38:59.040 I mean,
02:38:59.260 France does not allow 0.99
02:39:00.660 mail-in voting
02:39:01.500 or machines.
02:39:02.860 Yes.
02:39:03.220 They have a very
02:39:03.700 clean system.
02:39:04.960 In the UK,
02:39:05.720 they brought in
02:39:06.580 voter ID
02:39:07.060 just a couple
02:39:07.640 of years ago.
02:39:08.480 Which has,
02:39:08.960 I think,
02:39:09.360 a population
02:39:10.000 roughly the size
02:39:10.940 of Australia's.
02:39:11.860 Yeah.
02:39:12.420 Yeah.
02:39:12.840 They can do it.
02:39:13.780 They call it in one minute.
02:39:15.140 Yeah.
02:39:15.960 Right.
02:39:16.620 So,
02:39:17.080 if you have a state
02:39:18.060 that doesn't
02:39:20.000 even try
02:39:20.980 to call it
02:39:21.780 within a few days,
02:39:23.600 what do you have?
02:39:24.140 I mean,
02:39:24.340 what do you have?
02:39:24.900 What are you looking at?
02:39:25.680 I mean,
02:39:25.940 this is the country
02:39:26.880 that sent man to the moon.
02:39:28.540 Right.
02:39:28.900 Surely.
02:39:30.440 Supposedly.
02:39:32.780 No,
02:39:33.300 I'm sure we did.
02:39:34.300 I guess.
02:39:36.320 But,
02:39:36.580 but certainly
02:39:37.520 there's a lot
02:39:38.000 of advanced technology
02:39:38.840 in the United States.
02:39:39.640 Well,
02:39:39.660 Elon Musk
02:39:40.180 just has a rocket
02:39:41.360 that can catch itself
02:39:42.580 on its way home.
02:39:43.600 So,
02:39:44.100 surely we can make sure
02:39:45.720 that the voting system
02:39:46.960 is not so antiquated.
02:39:48.200 So,
02:39:48.520 can you just wax lyrical
02:39:49.980 a little bit
02:39:50.760 about Donald Trump's
02:39:52.500 story arc?
02:39:53.800 So,
02:39:54.080 you're writing,
02:39:54.400 let's say you're writing
02:39:54.860 this novel about Donald Trump
02:39:56.040 and here you have a guy
02:39:57.000 who,
02:39:57.920 you know,
02:39:58.320 is the darling
02:39:59.480 of the media world.
02:40:00.640 He's,
02:40:00.860 of course,
02:40:01.060 part of his
02:40:01.340 the highest rated
02:40:02.100 person in
02:40:04.280 television,
02:40:05.260 goes into politics,
02:40:06.080 he's hated,
02:40:07.060 called a racist,
02:40:09.160 loses,
02:40:10.380 and then he comes back
02:40:11.120 and wins
02:40:11.940 with a larger vote
02:40:14.900 of a percentage
02:40:15.720 of the non-white vote
02:40:16.460 than any Republican ever. 0.99
02:40:18.020 This racist, 0.99
02:40:18.940 like, 0.86
02:40:19.560 what,
02:40:19.940 what are we,
02:40:20.500 I mean,
02:40:20.800 what are we watching here?
02:40:21.780 I've never seen
02:40:22.280 a redemption story
02:40:23.180 like this.
02:40:24.000 Well,
02:40:24.160 let's hope
02:40:24.780 that you're not
02:40:25.220 jumping the gun,
02:40:26.060 but yeah,
02:40:26.660 I mean,
02:40:26.960 that's the way it looks
02:40:27.980 if you're writing a novel
02:40:29.140 and I think,
02:40:30.220 well,
02:40:30.400 look,
02:40:30.500 even if Trump loses,
02:40:31.600 he's been outspent
02:40:32.400 three to one,
02:40:33.480 he's been arrested,
02:40:35.460 he's been-
02:40:35.980 Demonized,
02:40:36.520 villainized.
02:40:37.460 He's had his mugshot
02:40:38.280 taken more than once.
02:40:38.780 He's had the entire
02:40:39.640 media establishment
02:40:40.740 against him,
02:40:42.100 the entire blob,
02:40:44.060 the CIA,
02:40:44.780 the FBI,
02:40:45.540 they've all been
02:40:46.240 against him.
02:40:47.060 It's the most
02:40:47.800 incredible comeback story
02:40:49.300 and,
02:40:50.260 you know,
02:40:50.780 he could have
02:40:51.380 slinked off
02:40:52.240 after 2020
02:40:53.060 and had a comfortable life
02:40:54.260 and probably ingratiated
02:40:55.340 himself back
02:40:56.580 with the lefties,
02:40:57.940 but he didn't.
02:40:58.960 He chose to go
02:40:59.720 the difficult route.
02:41:01.020 And he's ahead
02:41:01.760 as of right now,
02:41:03.080 could change,
02:41:03.640 but in Wisconsin,
02:41:05.400 amazing.
02:41:06.740 It's very,
02:41:07.240 very tight,
02:41:07.860 but he's ahead.
02:41:09.960 You know,
02:41:10.300 I think that
02:41:10.900 that assassination
02:41:11.900 attempt in Butler
02:41:12.920 where he stood up
02:41:13.560 and did fight,
02:41:14.360 fight,
02:41:14.500 fight,
02:41:14.900 I think that
02:41:15.800 transformed,
02:41:16.860 it certainly
02:41:17.280 was the galvanizing
02:41:18.920 reason for Elon Musk
02:41:21.040 to come out
02:41:21.680 of the shadows
02:41:22.180 and I think
02:41:23.680 Joe Rogan as well.
02:41:24.700 I think a lot of
02:41:25.340 men particularly,
02:41:26.760 but women as well, 0.97
02:41:27.480 just recognized
02:41:28.200 there is a once
02:41:29.300 in a lifetime
02:41:29.960 courage and leadership
02:41:31.720 like a Genghis Khan
02:41:33.360 style leadership.
02:41:34.980 Seriously.
02:41:35.580 With your children,
02:41:36.440 but yes,
02:41:37.020 same idea.
02:41:38.200 But you don't have
02:41:39.220 that sort of
02:41:39.800 historical figure
02:41:40.660 come to you
02:41:42.500 very often
02:41:43.220 and the country's
02:41:44.980 in dire need
02:41:45.780 of a figure like that.
02:41:46.880 So as repellent
02:41:48.800 as many Americans
02:41:50.300 find him,
02:41:51.540 I think enough
02:41:52.560 Americans love him,
02:41:53.880 looks like the majority.
02:41:54.900 I mean,
02:41:55.040 he may even win
02:41:56.040 the popular vote.
02:41:57.420 What a repudiation
02:41:58.960 of the New York Times
02:42:00.620 and CNN
02:42:01.380 and the rest of them
02:42:02.400 who have treated him
02:42:03.940 as if they've
02:42:04.680 called him a Nazi.
02:42:05.580 Well,
02:42:05.720 will it be read that way?
02:42:07.140 So Trump,
02:42:07.760 I mean,
02:42:08.000 you spent your life
02:42:08.560 in newsrooms,
02:42:09.100 your father was
02:42:09.600 a well-known journalist,
02:42:10.500 I mean,
02:42:10.640 you've really been
02:42:11.020 in this business
02:42:11.520 your whole life.
02:42:14.140 What's their,
02:42:14.880 so let's say Trump
02:42:15.820 wins,
02:42:16.100 let's say he wins
02:42:16.680 the popular vote,
02:42:17.620 let's say he wins
02:42:18.260 a majority or close
02:42:19.140 to of Hispanic voters, 0.94
02:42:20.560 this famous racist, 0.99
02:42:22.080 Mr. Taco Bell. 0.98
02:42:23.820 Like,
02:42:24.180 what do they make
02:42:25.140 of that?
02:42:25.820 Like,
02:42:25.940 what's their explanation
02:42:26.620 for it?
02:42:27.060 Does it occasion
02:42:27.780 any kind of
02:42:28.580 self-reflection
02:42:29.320 at all?
02:42:30.160 It would if
02:42:30.680 they were actually
02:42:31.320 journalists
02:42:31.820 and not just
02:42:32.580 propaganda artists
02:42:33.580 who are being
02:42:34.660 controlled by
02:42:35.780 other forces,
02:42:36.800 you know,
02:42:37.260 who will
02:42:38.600 fight
02:42:39.640 Trump
02:42:40.760 and his people
02:42:42.160 every step of the way.
02:42:43.180 We're just talking
02:42:44.080 about big pharma,
02:42:45.080 you just had
02:42:45.580 Bobby Kennedy on,
02:42:46.780 big pharma,
02:42:47.760 big agriculture,
02:42:49.000 they will be
02:42:50.720 out to do
02:42:51.840 whatever they can
02:42:52.620 to stop him.
02:42:53.540 We've also got
02:42:54.180 the CIA,
02:42:54.900 the FBI,
02:42:55.520 et cetera.
02:42:56.640 So they control
02:42:58.020 these newsrooms.
02:42:59.480 These newsrooms
02:43:00.480 kind of take
02:43:01.420 their marching
02:43:02.020 orders from
02:43:02.880 these,
02:43:04.140 these sort of
02:43:05.360 malign influences.
02:43:06.680 I don't think
02:43:07.120 there are any.
02:43:07.500 You think so?
02:43:07.960 So the,
02:43:08.660 I mean,
02:43:09.460 here,
02:43:09.800 I'm playing
02:43:10.280 pantomime with you.
02:43:11.220 I know what you're
02:43:11.800 saying is true 0.75
02:43:12.400 because I've seen it.
02:43:14.040 I don't think
02:43:15.000 your average person,
02:43:16.340 oh,
02:43:16.520 he won Iowa,
02:43:17.620 there he is,
02:43:17.980 Donald Trump wins
02:43:18.740 Iowa.
02:43:19.080 Of course.
02:43:19.920 Well,
02:43:20.180 no,
02:43:20.700 I mean,
02:43:21.060 he was,
02:43:21.500 I know,
02:43:21.820 what about much
02:43:22.360 watch poll from
02:43:23.260 Iowa points to
02:43:24.100 Harris landslide.
02:43:25.820 Standard poll,
02:43:27.460 Annie Seltzer.
02:43:29.040 You know,
02:43:29.380 how did that happen?
02:43:30.400 She never gets it
02:43:31.200 wrong.
02:43:31.460 She's just
02:43:31.960 magnificent.
02:43:33.420 Ha ha.
02:43:34.080 She was wrong.
02:43:35.520 Fancy that.
02:43:36.040 But Iowa,
02:43:37.340 I mean,
02:43:37.560 I immediately called
02:43:38.420 a friend of mine
02:43:38.860 who's a political
02:43:39.300 organizer in Iowa
02:43:40.160 and I said,
02:43:40.520 I don't,
02:43:40.960 you know,
02:43:41.240 I'm not from Iowa
02:43:42.380 to put it mildly.
02:43:44.220 So I don't know,
02:43:44.880 maybe it's my
02:43:46.120 friends.
02:43:46.640 What?
02:43:47.040 And this was like
02:43:47.920 an actual political
02:43:48.560 person in Iowa.
02:43:49.340 That's insane.
02:43:50.540 But that poll was
02:43:51.260 taken seriously.
02:43:52.500 Yeah.
02:43:53.120 You know,
02:43:53.880 Robert Cahaley
02:43:54.740 from Trafalgar
02:43:56.100 had a really
02:43:56.700 interesting thing
02:43:57.240 the other night,
02:43:57.820 which was that
02:43:58.600 where there used
02:44:00.200 to be the shy
02:44:00.880 Trump voter,
02:44:01.540 now there's the
02:44:02.180 fearful Trump voter.
02:44:03.260 They're afraid of
02:44:04.060 government retribution
02:44:04.940 and knock on the
02:44:05.600 door being canceled.
02:44:07.560 So they really are
02:44:08.280 not going to tell
02:44:08.900 pollsters even as
02:44:09.960 beloved and brilliant
02:44:11.400 as Ann Seltzer the truth.
02:44:12.860 You are so good.
02:44:15.140 I'm so glad
02:44:16.200 you're still in the
02:44:16.800 media.
02:44:18.200 I think the fact
02:44:19.120 that you grew up
02:44:19.720 and it gives you
02:44:20.180 a different perspective
02:44:21.060 because you,
02:44:21.920 I mean,
02:44:23.140 you once told me
02:44:23.720 that you remember
02:44:24.200 your dad like
02:44:24.860 at the table
02:44:25.280 talking about it,
02:44:26.240 right?
02:44:26.580 Yeah,
02:44:26.860 of course.
02:44:27.060 You grew up in it.
02:44:27.640 Yeah.
02:44:27.880 Okay, so.
02:44:28.820 Ink in the blood.
02:44:29.560 You remember what
02:44:30.140 it used to be.
02:44:30.720 That's right.
02:44:31.200 Yeah.
02:44:31.980 Yeah.
02:44:33.540 Yeah.
02:44:33.900 Thank you.
02:44:34.540 Well,
02:44:34.700 you have that spirit
02:44:36.400 that used to animate
02:44:37.300 all journalists.
02:44:38.220 Well,
02:44:38.440 and you have it too
02:44:39.160 because your father is.
02:44:40.260 Yeah,
02:44:40.480 no,
02:44:40.620 I grew up in it also.
02:44:41.440 No,
02:44:41.680 I mean,
02:44:41.860 I remember when,
02:44:42.760 you know,
02:44:43.020 journalists were like
02:44:43.740 amazing guys
02:44:44.720 and like you expected
02:44:45.660 that they were
02:44:46.340 swashbuckers.
02:44:47.400 100%.
02:44:47.720 They went to war.
02:44:48.940 They jumped out of planes.
02:44:50.240 100%.
02:44:50.480 They did dangerous things.
02:44:52.100 Yes.
02:44:52.360 They didn't just sit
02:44:52.940 behind a keyboard
02:44:53.800 in a New York newsroom
02:44:55.080 snarking at people.
02:44:56.640 They were real men
02:44:57.640 and women. 0.98
02:44:58.500 I remember.
02:44:58.940 There weren't that many women, 1.00
02:45:00.380 but the ones that were
02:45:01.680 were Lois Lane.
02:45:03.260 Pretty rough.
02:45:04.120 Yeah.
02:45:05.220 So,
02:45:06.240 what happens
02:45:07.700 to,
02:45:10.460 you said the media
02:45:11.160 will spend not a moment
02:45:12.220 reflecting on how
02:45:13.280 they got it wrong.
02:45:13.900 did they do it
02:45:14.560 in 2016?
02:45:15.900 you're absolutely right.
02:45:16.420 But what happens
02:45:17.200 to the malign forces 1.00
02:45:18.100 that you described
02:45:18.800 in Washington,
02:45:19.660 the intel agencies
02:45:20.420 who you butted up against
02:45:22.160 to try to
02:45:22.680 shut your story down
02:45:24.200 with famously
02:45:24.900 the 51
02:45:25.440 former intel officials,
02:45:27.400 all of whom
02:45:27.860 retained security clearances.
02:45:29.680 Really,
02:45:30.140 they were still working
02:45:30.700 for the intel agencies.
02:45:31.720 Yeah.
02:45:31.900 But people like that
02:45:33.260 like,
02:45:34.300 when are they ever
02:45:34.940 going to be held
02:45:36.060 to account
02:45:36.560 for what they did?
02:45:37.920 I think it's a long-term project.
02:45:39.460 It's going to be more
02:45:40.060 than four years.
02:45:41.180 But,
02:45:41.560 you know,
02:45:42.160 with any luck,
02:45:43.040 if this is a resounding
02:45:44.880 landslide
02:45:46.280 or resounding victory
02:45:47.620 for Donald Trump,
02:45:48.940 he's really set in place
02:45:50.500 four years for himself
02:45:52.100 and then another eight years
02:45:53.340 for J.D. Vance
02:45:55.020 or whoever is
02:45:56.220 the heir apparent.
02:45:58.880 This is the MAGA movement
02:46:00.440 has taken over
02:46:03.960 the conservative side
02:46:04.900 of politics
02:46:05.540 and it's no longer
02:46:06.680 going to be
02:46:07.060 the Bushies
02:46:07.680 and the Cheneys 0.96
02:46:08.680 and business as usual
02:46:10.380 where everyone is cozy
02:46:11.920 as the uni party
02:46:13.340 and the malign forces 0.97
02:46:15.020 get their way.
02:46:16.140 It's just incredible.
02:46:18.060 Well,
02:46:18.420 I'm just grateful
02:46:19.360 that you've decided
02:46:20.120 for whatever reason
02:46:20.900 to stay in journalism.
02:46:22.340 Of course.
02:46:24.060 What else would I do?
02:46:25.860 I try to convince
02:46:26.480 my kids to go into it. 0.91
02:46:27.720 That's disgusting.
02:46:30.040 But, you know.
02:46:30.560 I do convince my kids
02:46:31.200 not to.
02:46:32.520 You know,
02:46:32.940 I think it's hard
02:46:34.180 for young people.
02:46:35.460 I'm glad they're not in it
02:46:36.420 but you do need
02:46:37.860 decent, honest,
02:46:39.560 tough people
02:46:40.400 with self-respect
02:46:41.280 in it
02:46:41.800 and you're one of the few.
02:46:43.360 Thank you.
02:46:43.800 Oh, I mean it.
02:46:44.620 Thank you very much,
02:46:45.820 Miranda Devine.
02:46:45.960 Thanks so much.
02:46:48.200 So,
02:46:49.000 Trump really shouldn't be here.
02:46:50.300 He should be in prison
02:46:52.000 and if the plan
02:46:53.000 had unfolded
02:46:54.320 as they wanted it to,
02:46:56.660 he would not be
02:46:57.720 standing for election tonight.
02:46:59.100 He would be behind bars.
02:47:01.160 He's been charged
02:47:01.640 with all kinds of fake crimes.
02:47:02.740 One of the reasons
02:47:03.120 he's not behind bars,
02:47:04.400 one of the reasons
02:47:04.840 he is,
02:47:05.420 well,
02:47:05.600 he's almost at 200 electoral votes
02:47:07.080 as of 1032 Eastern
02:47:09.480 is Alina Habba
02:47:10.680 who is
02:47:11.500 one of his lawyers,
02:47:13.020 by far the most famous
02:47:14.080 and I can say very smart.
02:47:16.240 She joins us now.
02:47:17.300 Did you ever think
02:47:18.160 that...
02:47:18.340 Wait, don't you mean
02:47:18.940 unintelligent,
02:47:20.000 unintelligent, 1.00
02:47:20.740 stupid, 1.00
02:47:21.260 unintelligent, 1.00
02:47:21.900 all those things
02:47:22.400 Mark Cuban called us?
02:47:24.580 Mark Cuban!
02:47:25.860 Screw Mark Cuban.
02:47:26.440 You know,
02:47:26.460 somebody said,
02:47:26.960 I think it was Elon
02:47:27.400 the other night,
02:47:27.940 Mark Cuban,
02:47:29.160 I know Mark Cuban,
02:47:30.120 I also know Rachel Maddow.
02:47:31.680 Yeah.
02:47:32.500 Worked with her.
02:47:34.020 He does look
02:47:34.900 so much like Rachel Maddow now.
02:47:36.600 Like, what is that?
02:47:37.220 The glasses?
02:47:38.540 I'm debating,
02:47:39.620 is it Rachel Maddow?
02:47:40.820 Is he trying to be on The View?
02:47:41.980 I can't figure it out.
02:47:42.920 But he does seem like
02:47:44.040 he's undergoing
02:47:44.820 some physiological changes.
02:47:46.460 Maybe it's a transition.
02:47:47.000 No, honestly,
02:47:48.000 it looks that way.
02:47:49.000 What is that?
02:47:49.620 Perhaps, you know,
02:47:50.300 I could represent him
02:47:51.140 through that.
02:47:51.640 Maybe I could get
02:47:52.140 the taxpayer liberal dollars.
02:47:53.940 I'm here for you, Mark.
02:47:55.180 Whatever you need,
02:47:56.120 this intelligent woman 0.94
02:47:57.220 will help you transition
02:47:58.480 on taxpayer dollars
02:47:59.460 under the Kamala Harris regime.
02:48:01.400 I'm here for it.
02:48:02.880 I remember we had dinner
02:48:04.060 at the beginning
02:48:04.580 of this whole drama
02:48:05.740 that you've been through
02:48:06.620 and I remember thinking,
02:48:08.720 boy, you're signing up
02:48:10.040 for a lot of drama.
02:48:11.860 Yeah.
02:48:12.740 Yeah.
02:48:12.940 I mean, looking back...
02:48:14.940 It's been a blessing.
02:48:16.660 Really?
02:48:17.260 Yes, I feel that way.
02:48:18.520 How?
02:48:19.100 I feel this was God's plan.
02:48:20.840 I feel grateful.
02:48:22.040 Honestly, I do.
02:48:23.660 I think the more they hit me,
02:48:25.480 the more I know I have a voice
02:48:26.820 and President Trump's
02:48:27.860 given me a voice.
02:48:29.000 Nobody should know
02:48:29.860 who President Trump's lawyer was.
02:48:31.540 And you and I talked about it
02:48:32.880 and I was like,
02:48:33.780 hey, Tucker,
02:48:34.360 I'll come on your show.
02:48:35.100 We don't do lawyers. 0.88
02:48:36.080 I'm like, yeah,
02:48:36.580 but and then it became
02:48:37.780 that I wasn't just a lawyer.
02:48:39.180 That's because of President Trump.
02:48:40.680 So the man that they tell you
02:48:41.740 has torn down women 1.00
02:48:42.860 has given me a platform
02:48:44.640 and I'm a first generation
02:48:46.400 American girl.
02:48:47.680 I was not a straight A student.
02:48:49.720 I didn't go to Harvard.
02:48:50.880 I think Trump likes women better.
02:48:52.240 I've always thought.
02:48:52.500 You know what I know?
02:48:54.040 You know what?
02:48:54.700 Yeah, for sure.
02:48:55.700 Listen, the truth of the matter is
02:48:57.360 I'm here for such a time as this,
02:48:58.800 but I'm so honored
02:48:59.660 and I feel like
02:49:00.960 no matter what happens,
02:49:02.440 we laid it all on the field
02:49:03.840 and we fought so hard.
02:49:05.860 He should have been in jail
02:49:06.820 according to that.
02:49:07.500 Yeah. 0.99
02:49:07.760 He should have been dead 0.98
02:49:08.820 according to him. 0.97
02:49:09.820 Yeah, no, that's right.
02:49:10.740 And we crushed it, Tucker.
02:49:11.900 I mean, no matter what,
02:49:13.320 you can't say we didn't crush it.
02:49:15.380 You certainly did.
02:49:16.780 Yeah.
02:49:17.080 And it was like a swarm of bees
02:49:18.800 at one point.
02:49:19.640 There were so many different
02:49:20.800 filings against him.
02:49:21.960 I couldn't even keep track of it.
02:49:23.460 Indictments, raids.
02:49:24.880 When I signed up
02:49:25.900 to work with President Trump,
02:49:27.520 I told him in the interview,
02:49:29.300 I had interviewed with him
02:49:30.220 and Eric Trump,
02:49:30.920 who you know well,
02:49:31.980 and the GC of the Trump Organization,
02:49:33.520 and I had said to them,
02:49:35.280 sir, I'm really happy
02:49:36.220 to represent you as an attorney,
02:49:37.440 but I will not get involved
02:49:38.460 in politics.
02:49:39.620 Not happening.
02:49:40.140 A month later,
02:49:41.140 I sued Hillary Clinton.
02:49:42.360 So here we are.
02:49:44.000 He always gets the last word.
02:49:45.920 I mean, you've enjoyed it.
02:49:47.320 I honestly feel it's a blessing.
02:49:49.100 All the hit pieces,
02:49:50.340 all the tormenting,
02:49:51.400 the view,
02:49:52.280 Jimmy Kimmel,
02:49:53.260 Mark Cuban,
02:49:53.880 bring it on.
02:49:54.500 Bring it on, baby.
02:49:55.160 Did Jimmy Kimmel attack you?
02:49:56.660 Always.
02:49:57.760 Jimmy Kimmel many times.
02:49:59.240 SNL two weeks in a row.
02:50:00.780 That's a badge of honor.
02:50:01.940 Jimmy Kimmel was like a pretty...
02:50:03.960 Does anybody watch it?
02:50:05.500 I don't know.
02:50:05.940 No one watches that his career ended,
02:50:08.860 but how is he so controlled?
02:50:12.020 Like, what do they have on Jimmy Kimmel?
02:50:13.280 Fear.
02:50:13.860 You know,
02:50:14.180 maybe he was at Diddy's Island,
02:50:15.440 Epstein's Island,
02:50:16.120 I'm sure.
02:50:17.200 Something's going on.
02:50:17.820 You know what we don't need to do,
02:50:19.040 Tucker?
02:50:19.320 This is what I said at the rally.
02:50:21.200 I said this,
02:50:22.620 one of my second to last rallies,
02:50:24.060 I said,
02:50:24.760 you will not see people
02:50:25.920 from Diddy's parties
02:50:27.460 or Epstein's Island
02:50:28.420 on this stage.
02:50:29.700 So when I say it's a blessing,
02:50:31.220 because I have something
02:50:31.960 called morality,
02:50:33.060 which is lacking,
02:50:34.160 and God is number one to me.
02:50:36.140 Not Trump,
02:50:37.120 nothing else.
02:50:37.920 God is number one.
02:50:39.140 So for me,
02:50:39.940 my faith,
02:50:40.440 my family,
02:50:41.200 that's why I'm here.
02:50:42.480 And my children,
02:50:43.720 we can't live through this
02:50:44.660 kind of culture
02:50:45.420 that they're creating.
02:50:46.300 This fear of sending my kids to school,
02:50:47.840 I can't have that.
02:50:48.720 I can't have that.
02:50:49.520 I got to switch my kids from school
02:50:50.680 because my daughter's school's so woke,
02:50:52.420 I can't take it.
02:50:53.520 Yeah.
02:50:53.840 I can't have that.
02:50:54.560 You have kids.
02:50:55.180 You shouldn't take it.
02:50:55.940 I'm not going to take it.
02:50:56.920 Good.
02:50:57.100 And I'm not going to take it
02:50:58.120 not only for me,
02:50:59.100 but for your kids,
02:50:59.800 for everybody's kids.
02:51:00.920 So it's a blessing.
02:51:01.980 My kids are out of it.
02:51:03.200 Thank heaven.
02:51:03.900 Yeah.
02:51:04.200 I mean,
02:51:04.360 I would not send my children.
02:51:05.720 I would not send my children
02:51:07.160 to private or public school right now
02:51:10.160 if I had to do it.
02:51:10.740 Don't trust the system.
02:51:11.380 Thank God.
02:51:11.800 No.
02:51:12.240 Oh,
02:51:12.920 Lena Habit,
02:51:13.320 congratulations.
02:51:14.220 No matter what happens,
02:51:15.340 you have done your part
02:51:16.620 and have been victorious.
02:51:18.440 And I don't know
02:51:18.860 if anyone would have bet on you.
02:51:20.600 Nobody was betting on me.
02:51:21.380 A couple years ago.
02:51:22.400 Let's be honest,
02:51:23.020 Todd.
02:51:23.420 You weren't betting on me.
02:51:25.080 Listen.
02:51:25.440 Oh,
02:51:25.700 I thought I was secretly betting on you.
02:51:27.840 You know what it is?
02:51:29.160 I was every stigma
02:51:30.880 that they wanted to say 0.99
02:51:32.360 was dumb, 1.00
02:51:33.160 stupid. 1.00
02:51:33.620 She looks a certain way. 1.00
02:51:34.460 She can't be good.
02:51:35.280 She must be.
02:51:35.940 It's because of her looks. 0.98
02:51:36.680 It's because of this.
02:51:37.240 It's because of that.
02:51:38.780 And the words I want to say right now
02:51:40.020 are not very Catholic,
02:51:41.460 but big F you. 0.99
02:51:43.000 Big F you tonight. 1.00
02:51:44.220 F you all you.
02:51:45.000 It's a nice feeling.
02:51:46.040 It's a good feeling.
02:51:46.880 That's the party I vote for.
02:51:47.680 Guess what?
02:51:48.100 No matter what,
02:51:49.000 we're on the party of F you.
02:51:52.920 Elena,
02:51:53.320 thank you very much.
02:51:53.920 Thank you for having me.
02:51:54.660 Great to see you.
02:51:55.400 Good to see you.
02:51:56.040 Let's win, Todd.
02:51:57.020 Let's win.
02:51:58.660 We're looking good.
02:51:59.540 I mean,
02:51:59.820 I don't know.
02:52:00.300 We're still in betting markets.
02:52:01.500 We've got Eric Trump
02:52:02.100 standing right there.
02:52:02.880 That's how it goes.
02:52:03.940 The brand new numbers.
02:52:05.100 Eric Trump,
02:52:05.600 my biggest,
02:52:06.160 by the way,
02:52:06.620 tougher client than Donald Trump.
02:52:08.000 True story.
02:52:08.600 Tougher client than Donald Trump.
02:52:09.820 Is that true?
02:52:10.820 It's true.
02:52:11.860 He is not.
02:52:12.540 Donald Trump is not the tough one.
02:52:13.800 It's Eric.
02:52:14.140 No,
02:52:14.300 I believe that.
02:52:14.900 It's true.
02:52:15.380 I believe that.
02:52:15.760 It's true.
02:52:17.920 He's back at HQ
02:52:19.140 going through the contracts.
02:52:20.840 On that note,
02:52:21.580 bye-bye.
02:52:22.060 I want my bills.
02:52:23.380 See you guys.
02:52:24.240 See ya.
02:52:26.180 So Eric,
02:52:26.800 thank you very much
02:52:27.700 for doing this.
02:52:28.460 I've been stuck in the seat
02:52:29.720 for something.
02:52:30.060 I don't know exactly
02:52:30.640 what's going on.
02:52:31.180 What is going on?
02:52:32.480 What is going on?
02:52:33.420 Yeah.
02:52:33.680 It's like the greatest,
02:52:34.760 for me,
02:52:35.360 vindication of everything
02:52:37.120 that we've dealt with
02:52:37.700 for the last nine years.
02:52:38.980 So right now,
02:52:39.440 we're looking great in Georgia.
02:52:40.640 We're looking great in North Carolina.
02:52:42.100 I think they call both the states
02:52:43.060 the next town,
02:52:43.640 10,
02:52:43.860 15 minutes.
02:52:45.200 And then I think
02:52:45.720 our internal numbers
02:52:46.380 show us winning Pennsylvania
02:52:47.520 and our internal numbers
02:52:49.240 show us winning Wisconsin.
02:52:50.700 So you have that
02:52:51.560 before you get out
02:52:52.260 to Arizona and Nevada,
02:52:53.160 which I think we're going
02:52:53.740 to win both of those.
02:52:54.520 So if that comes true,
02:52:56.320 so if you get Georgia,
02:52:57.220 North Carolina,
02:52:59.060 Wisconsin,
02:53:00.300 and Pennsylvania,
02:53:01.460 it's over.
02:53:02.320 It is right.
02:53:03.240 If you get Georgia, 0.97
02:53:04.900 North Carolina,
02:53:05.500 and Pennsylvania,
02:53:05.920 it's over.
02:53:07.020 If you get Wisconsin
02:53:08.020 slicing on the cake,
02:53:08.880 if you get Nevada
02:53:09.620 and Arizona,
02:53:10.300 it's even better.
02:53:11.580 And so Tucker,
02:53:12.720 they put us through hell.
02:53:13.400 I mean,
02:53:13.560 so this actually could end tonight.
02:53:16.480 Oh,
02:53:16.580 absolutely.
02:53:17.400 And it could end sooner,
02:53:18.600 you know,
02:53:18.900 sooner than we otherwise think.
02:53:20.060 And,
02:53:20.200 you know,
02:53:20.940 oftentimes when we see a lot
02:53:22.660 of the raw data coming in
02:53:23.460 behind the scenes,
02:53:24.080 and oftentimes the news networks
02:53:25.960 will actually kind of,
02:53:26.920 you know,
02:53:27.100 hold it back for a while
02:53:28.020 because they want to.
02:53:28.480 Wow.
02:53:28.900 I'm sorry to interrupt you.
02:53:29.720 Just to give our audience
02:53:30.740 some perspective
02:53:31.280 in case you're not following this,
02:53:32.440 84% counter to North Carolina.
02:53:34.580 They're saying it's too early to call,
02:53:35.560 but Trump is at 51.
02:53:38.240 I mean,
02:53:38.760 it's not.
02:53:39.380 I mean,
02:53:39.520 just for context,
02:53:40.200 the New York Times has some
02:53:41.060 at 83% chance of winning
02:53:42.380 as of a second ago
02:53:43.260 and is going up every few minutes.
02:53:44.620 And Tucker,
02:53:45.300 the reason I say that,
02:53:46.040 I'm not a boastful guy.
02:53:47.120 It's only 1040.
02:53:48.400 This is crazy.
02:53:48.960 This is crazy.
02:53:49.380 They've put us through
02:53:50.220 freaking hell
02:53:50.900 over the last nine years.
02:53:52.140 They've done everything
02:53:52.940 to our family
02:53:53.480 that you could possibly do
02:53:54.340 to have them go after him,
02:53:57.220 to have them try and impeach him,
02:53:58.560 to have them make up the slurs
02:54:00.060 and the dossiers,
02:54:01.040 impeach,
02:54:01.340 you know,
02:54:01.500 literally send me 111 subpoenas.
02:54:03.240 I'm the most subpoenaed person
02:54:04.000 in history,
02:54:04.420 only to come back
02:54:05.880 against all odds.
02:54:07.080 They shot at him,
02:54:08.100 you know,
02:54:08.900 to win decisively
02:54:09.880 early in the night.
02:54:11.060 It would be the greatest,
02:54:12.800 you know,
02:54:13.300 I don't want to use the word revenge.
02:54:14.800 I think it's a little bit too harsh,
02:54:15.980 but maybe it's not.
02:54:16.760 Honestly,
02:54:17.060 they've tried to destroy his life.
02:54:18.660 They've tried to separate our family.
02:54:19.900 They've tried to destroy our company.
02:54:21.580 They've done everything
02:54:22.160 that they could
02:54:22.640 to take down Donald Trump,
02:54:23.560 to win early in the night,
02:54:25.480 decisively.
02:54:26.580 It would be the greatest
02:54:27.700 kind of retribution
02:54:28.580 that you could possibly do.
02:54:29.340 Well,
02:54:29.380 to go after,
02:54:30.400 you know,
02:54:30.800 you and your brother
02:54:31.500 in the way that they did.
02:54:32.620 I mean,
02:54:32.840 you know,
02:54:33.980 I had a long talk
02:54:35.260 with your dad
02:54:35.600 about that the other night,
02:54:36.440 weirdly.
02:54:38.280 And,
02:54:38.720 you know,
02:54:39.000 he's pretty emotionally controlled,
02:54:40.780 but he,
02:54:41.360 I got to,
02:54:42.800 I don't think I'm saying
02:54:43.740 anything out of school.
02:54:44.320 He seemed like,
02:54:45.180 just thinking about it,
02:54:46.040 upset him in a real way.
02:54:47.300 That was my read on it.
02:54:48.340 Adam shifted to Don.
02:54:49.680 Exactly.
02:54:50.320 You colluded with Russia. 0.87
02:54:51.640 We're going to throw you in jail 0.98
02:54:52.780 for the rest of your life.
02:54:53.480 It's treason.
02:54:54.560 Don had nothing to do with Russia.
02:54:55.740 I was the guy
02:54:56.200 that got the calls
02:54:56.720 from the Washington Post,
02:54:57.560 New York Times saying,
02:54:58.860 Eric,
02:54:59.080 I hear you have secret servers
02:55:00.340 that are connected
02:55:00.960 to the Kremlin
02:55:01.660 in the basement of Trump Tower.
02:55:02.920 Now,
02:55:03.080 Tucker,
02:55:03.540 I want to bring you
02:55:04.060 through the basics, right?
02:55:05.140 You don't put servers
02:55:05.960 in basements
02:55:06.420 because basements flood.
02:55:07.400 Let's just like go,
02:55:08.400 you know,
02:55:08.640 101.
02:55:09.720 Second of all,
02:55:10.320 we're like largely
02:55:10.820 like a cloud base.
02:55:11.980 The FBI knew this day one
02:55:14.000 that there were no servers
02:55:15.820 in the basement
02:55:16.340 and that the whole thing
02:55:17.040 was a made up sham
02:55:17.760 and they let it go on
02:55:18.720 for a three year period of time.
02:55:19.940 So think because
02:55:21.320 some greedy woman 1.00
02:55:22.380 wanted to get
02:55:22.940 an extra three votes,
02:55:24.060 they literally pitted
02:55:24.980 the two biggest
02:55:25.820 nuclear superpowers
02:55:26.840 against each other.
02:55:27.560 Almost destroyed
02:55:28.460 all communication,
02:55:29.360 all relationship
02:55:30.060 that you could have, right?
02:55:31.500 In this kind of
02:55:32.100 phantom made up story,
02:55:33.660 they pitted
02:55:34.360 the largest superpowers
02:55:35.440 against each other
02:55:36.220 so Hillary Clinton 0.91
02:55:37.200 could get what,
02:55:38.280 you know,
02:55:38.560 20 more votes
02:55:39.300 if people actually
02:55:40.600 believed it.
02:55:41.660 And we're on the brink
02:55:42.400 of nuclear war
02:55:43.100 with Russia right now
02:55:44.080 because of this.
02:55:44.900 It's truly sick.
02:55:45.600 I mean,
02:55:46.220 you know how many situations
02:55:47.120 there have been
02:55:47.460 over history
02:55:47.980 where, you know,
02:55:48.500 somebody shot up
02:55:49.440 a, you know,
02:55:49.940 a weather satellite
02:55:51.280 and they thought
02:55:52.440 there was a missile
02:55:52.920 coming over the pole
02:55:53.760 and they had to use
02:55:54.680 that phone, right?
02:55:55.420 I mean,
02:55:55.560 this is pretty well documented
02:55:56.500 in history
02:55:56.860 that these kinds of things
02:55:57.920 have happened
02:55:58.360 and guess what?
02:55:59.240 They were always making,
02:56:00.040 you know,
02:56:00.300 they were always
02:56:00.800 had the ability
02:56:01.680 to make a phone call.
02:56:03.160 I mean,
02:56:03.640 think all of a sudden
02:56:04.320 it's Russia collusion
02:56:05.140 and you pit,
02:56:06.220 you know,
02:56:06.560 Vladimir Putin and Trump
02:56:07.600 against one another
02:56:08.320 and that call
02:56:09.120 can't be made
02:56:09.740 in the middle of the night
02:56:10.440 when something as innocent
02:56:11.920 as a satellite
02:56:12.600 goes up in space
02:56:13.480 or something along those lines
02:56:14.500 and, I mean,
02:56:15.420 think of what that could lead to
02:56:16.640 all because of absolute greed
02:56:19.140 and it's not just,
02:56:20.660 you know,
02:56:21.000 it's not just a Russia hoax.
02:56:22.360 It's the two impeachments.
02:56:23.580 It's going after Kavanaugh.
02:56:24.840 It's ripping him off of Facebook.
02:56:26.500 It's ripping him off
02:56:27.300 of Instagram and Twitter, right?
02:56:29.560 It's 110 subpoenas to me.
02:56:31.400 It's raiding Barron's room,
02:56:32.900 raiding Melania's room, right?
02:56:34.540 Taking him off the ballot
02:56:35.320 in Colorado,
02:56:35.980 taking him off the ballot
02:56:36.700 in Maine,
02:56:37.820 you know, 1.00
02:56:38.000 trying to kill him. 0.99
02:56:39.520 And despite that, 0.98
02:56:40.320 here we are.
02:56:41.140 And here we are on November 5th.
02:56:43.200 You know,
02:56:43.440 it's what,
02:56:43.760 10, 1040?
02:56:45.160 And it looks like
02:56:45.960 in the next 20 minutes,
02:56:47.100 you know,
02:56:47.280 two more states
02:56:48.020 that are just critical states
02:56:49.160 could fall.
02:56:50.320 You know,
02:56:50.500 Pennsylvania looks great,
02:56:51.400 all the internal data.
02:56:52.380 I think we're going to win Pennsylvania
02:56:53.500 in a big way.
02:56:54.480 I think we're going to win Wisconsin.
02:56:55.620 I think we're going to win Nevada
02:56:56.480 and I think we're going to win Arizona.
02:56:58.460 You're freaking me out
02:56:59.380 just when you put it that way.
02:57:00.580 I have to say,
02:57:01.380 you know,
02:57:01.540 Trump always gets attacked
02:57:02.420 for being like vindictive
02:57:03.900 and all this stuff.
02:57:04.340 It's like,
02:57:05.620 I've spent a lot of time
02:57:06.640 talking to him.
02:57:07.200 I've never heard him describe
02:57:09.300 what you just described
02:57:10.600 in the way that he did.
02:57:11.660 He's actually weirdly
02:57:12.720 not vindictive at all.
02:57:15.260 Yeah.
02:57:15.760 Don't you think?
02:57:16.600 Yeah.
02:57:17.020 Because when you lay it out like that,
02:57:18.440 it's really...
02:57:19.100 I think it bothers a child
02:57:20.060 more than it bothers
02:57:20.900 the actual person.
02:57:21.420 Of course, right.
02:57:21.760 I take the insults hurled at him
02:57:25.280 much more personally
02:57:27.000 than I take insults hurled at me.
02:57:28.700 I get it.
02:57:28.720 No, I get it.
02:57:29.160 Oh, of course.
02:57:30.280 You see the absolute massacre
02:57:32.580 that they put him through
02:57:33.500 as a billionaire
02:57:34.240 who did not need this job.
02:57:35.660 No, I know.
02:57:36.080 Right?
02:57:36.240 He's the last guy
02:57:36.900 that needed this job.
02:57:37.600 Believe me,
02:57:37.920 his life would be exponentially better
02:57:39.420 sitting here at Mar-a-Lago
02:57:40.320 enjoying life, right?
02:57:42.380 And he wants to do this
02:57:43.000 because he wants to save this country.
02:57:44.280 And, you know,
02:57:44.680 he's hell-bent on saving this country.
02:57:46.220 There are no vacations.
02:57:47.040 I mean,
02:57:47.800 the two of us haven't slept
02:57:48.680 in 48 hours
02:57:49.400 because we were in, you know,
02:57:51.160 seven different rallies
02:57:52.120 in the last, you know,
02:57:53.600 36 hours leading up to this.
02:57:55.140 I mean, we got in at 530 this morning.
02:57:56.580 He went straight off to vote
02:57:57.720 when he, you know,
02:57:58.380 when he effectively got in
02:57:59.560 early this morning.
02:58:00.480 And, you know,
02:58:01.300 the guy's worked his ass off. 0.86
02:58:02.460 The guy's absolutely
02:58:02.980 worked his ass off. 0.85
02:58:03.800 He gets nothing
02:58:04.640 other than subpoenas
02:58:06.160 and weaponization of government
02:58:07.460 and sitting in courthouses
02:58:08.500 all day long.
02:58:09.500 And so it's actually really
02:58:11.280 vindication of the American people.
02:58:12.560 It's not vindication
02:58:13.500 of Donald Trump.
02:58:14.260 It's vindication
02:58:14.900 of the American people,
02:58:15.780 which is,
02:58:16.680 hey, listen, government,
02:58:17.660 you know,
02:58:18.200 we understand your games.
02:58:19.800 And you've tried
02:58:20.520 every single one of them
02:58:21.300 and we haven't believed you.
02:58:23.080 And at the end of it,
02:58:23.920 we're going to go vote
02:58:24.560 for the guy
02:58:25.000 that you've tried
02:58:25.500 to take down mercilessly
02:58:26.600 because we don't like you. 0.76
02:58:27.620 You know,
02:58:27.880 you considered us
02:58:28.820 the flyover states.
02:58:29.580 You forgot about us.
02:58:31.080 No, we weren't human to you, right?
02:58:33.140 We were this kind of
02:58:34.800 subhuman class 0.56
02:58:35.880 to most of the elites
02:58:36.800 in Washington, D.C.
02:58:38.380 You forgot about us.
02:58:39.780 And you know what?
02:58:40.300 Now we're going to go
02:58:41.280 and we're going to support
02:58:42.120 the guy that you tried
02:58:43.900 to take down,
02:58:44.600 but the guy that was fighting
02:58:45.300 for us every single day.
02:58:46.600 And as a son,
02:58:47.480 it's the greatest feeling
02:58:48.260 in the world.
02:58:48.680 If he wins this overwhelming,
02:58:50.580 if he gets 315,
02:58:51.980 316 electoral votes,
02:58:54.000 there's a possibility
02:58:54.680 that he wins
02:58:55.400 literally the popular vote
02:58:56.840 or comes as close
02:58:58.580 as anybody could possibly
02:58:59.640 come to winning
02:59:00.320 the popular vote.
02:59:01.400 It would be
02:59:01.920 the greatest vindication
02:59:02.840 that everything
02:59:03.460 that he's fought for
02:59:04.380 mattered.
02:59:06.280 You know,
02:59:06.500 that it mattered
02:59:06.920 to the American people,
02:59:07.980 that it mattered
02:59:08.400 to this country,
02:59:09.160 that it mattered
02:59:09.500 to the heart and soul
02:59:10.160 of this nation.
02:59:10.740 And there's nothing
02:59:12.240 that would make me
02:59:12.700 more proud.
02:59:13.040 It's like,
02:59:13.660 it's just the most
02:59:14.500 unbelievable story.
02:59:16.300 I just think I've been
02:59:17.020 too close to it
02:59:17.580 for too long.
02:59:18.300 I can't,
02:59:18.960 really honestly,
02:59:19.780 until you started talking
02:59:20.880 and laid it out that way,
02:59:21.840 I've never thought about it
02:59:22.840 in this way.
02:59:23.780 But when he lost
02:59:25.100 in 2020,
02:59:26.400 and I kind of,
02:59:27.040 I thought there was
02:59:27.680 something wrong with it.
02:59:28.560 Now,
02:59:29.140 I'm totally convinced
02:59:30.660 it was stolen.
02:59:31.680 I always get taken off
02:59:32.440 YouTube for saying that,
02:59:33.100 but I believe that.
02:59:34.980 But nobody backed him.
02:59:37.300 Everyone was like,
02:59:37.780 oh, 0.99
02:59:37.980 shut up, 1.00
02:59:38.440 go away. 1.00
02:59:39.460 People mocked him.
02:59:40.980 His own party
02:59:41.940 wanted him out of there.
02:59:43.800 They were embarrassed of him.
02:59:45.360 They hated that he wouldn't,
02:59:46.700 but they hated that he,
02:59:48.260 oh, 0.98
02:59:48.500 shut up, 1.00
02:59:48.820 they wouldn't let him 0.99
02:59:49.260 on Fox News.
02:59:50.180 Like,
02:59:50.560 he was not allowed to talk.
02:59:52.140 And you know what,
02:59:52.820 for every one of the things
02:59:54.280 that I named,
02:59:54.860 right,
02:59:55.080 again,
02:59:55.540 you know,
02:59:55.780 the impeachments
02:59:56.620 and the Kavanaugh's
02:59:57.540 and the Twitters
02:59:58.780 and Facebook's
02:59:59.480 and the censorship
03:00:00.020 and everything,
03:00:00.860 for every one of those things
03:00:02.120 that I just named,
03:00:03.360 there's a hundred
03:00:04.020 that the public
03:00:04.560 never thought.
03:00:05.100 Oh,
03:00:05.280 I know.
03:00:05.540 That never,
03:00:06.160 you know,
03:00:06.540 never made it
03:00:07.220 across your channels,
03:00:08.120 never,
03:00:08.420 I mean,
03:00:08.720 that were just
03:00:09.540 personal attacks
03:00:10.480 that were so vindictive
03:00:11.660 you can't possibly imagine,
03:00:13.060 right?
03:00:13.300 And yet,
03:00:14.360 he stood up
03:00:15.020 every single day
03:00:15.680 and he fought the nonsense
03:00:17.060 and it's-
03:00:17.620 It's crazy though.
03:00:18.640 I mean,
03:00:19.120 everybody abandoned him.
03:00:21.700 It was literally
03:00:22.180 like him and Rudy.
03:00:23.440 Yeah.
03:00:24.100 Like,
03:00:24.500 it was-
03:00:25.040 And against every
03:00:25.700 weaponized system.
03:00:26.680 And that's one thing
03:00:27.440 that people forget.
03:00:28.100 It's not just the attacks.
03:00:29.660 They weaponized the DOJ.
03:00:31.280 They weaponized the FBI.
03:00:32.960 They weaponized
03:00:33.800 the mainstream media.
03:00:34.660 You know better than anybody.
03:00:35.740 You were like the face of it,
03:00:37.040 right,
03:00:37.280 for the longest time.
03:00:38.680 They weaponized social media
03:00:40.120 when they started pulling them
03:00:40.900 off those platforms.
03:00:41.660 They weaponized
03:00:42.580 Department of Health,
03:00:44.300 right?
03:00:44.540 I mean,
03:00:44.740 remember the doctors came out,
03:00:46.460 hey,
03:00:46.720 hydroxychloroquine might work,
03:00:48.340 right?
03:00:48.480 They started ripping licenses.
03:00:49.680 They weaponized everything.
03:00:50.540 They weaponized the military 0.93
03:00:51.500 with, you know,
03:00:52.160 Millie coming out.
03:00:52.820 I want to understand
03:00:53.400 White Ray.
03:00:53.740 I mean,
03:00:54.020 they weaponized
03:00:54.860 every single government
03:00:56.020 institution that we had
03:00:57.280 as a country.
03:00:58.660 And then they weaponized
03:00:59.640 mainstream media.
03:01:00.340 And you had one guy,
03:01:01.540 you know,
03:01:01.660 maybe one guy
03:01:02.200 with a little bit of us
03:01:02.920 standing on the stage,
03:01:03.780 right,
03:01:03.960 with a loud voice.
03:01:04.640 But you had one guy
03:01:06.060 that literally defeated it all.
03:01:08.360 And he did that
03:01:08.940 because he had the American
03:01:09.660 people behind him.
03:01:10.540 But really,
03:01:11.120 think about the David
03:01:13.340 and Goliath story
03:01:14.200 of all of that.
03:01:15.100 If he wins tonight,
03:01:16.460 which he's on the brink
03:01:17.260 of doing,
03:01:18.520 it was one guy
03:01:19.440 that beat the American media
03:01:21.220 and all the other
03:01:22.860 weaponized systems
03:01:23.640 that tried to take him down.
03:01:25.860 I mean,
03:01:26.200 it's fascinating,
03:01:27.400 right?
03:01:27.640 As a guy who came in,
03:01:28.940 he didn't know
03:01:29.240 what a delegate was 0.66
03:01:30.000 when we got into politics.
03:01:31.060 I mean,
03:01:31.240 literally,
03:01:31.920 we didn't know
03:01:32.660 what the hell
03:01:32.900 a caucus was.
03:01:33.580 I remember getting to Iowa
03:01:34.920 and asking some little staffer,
03:01:36.140 you know,
03:01:36.280 I'm about to speak
03:01:36.840 at a big caucus location.
03:01:38.220 Can somebody explain to me
03:01:38.960 what the hell
03:01:39.800 a caucus is?
03:01:41.000 And by the way,
03:01:41.400 you didn't know either
03:01:42.000 until you got into politics,
03:01:43.080 right?
03:01:43.120 Come on! 0.61
03:01:43.980 I still don't know.
03:01:44.880 I've covered a million caucuses.
03:01:46.400 You know,
03:01:46.620 and so,
03:01:48.240 a guy who literally
03:01:49.320 knew not a damn thing
03:01:50.580 about the system 0.64
03:01:51.240 beat Hillary, 0.92
03:01:53.340 one of the greatest
03:01:53.780 political dynasties ever.
03:01:55.680 You know,
03:01:55.880 beat her when she
03:01:56.480 out-raised him 5 to 1.
03:01:57.580 I mean,
03:01:57.700 she raised 1.5 billion.
03:01:59.360 I mean,
03:01:59.540 he put in 200 million bucks
03:02:00.820 and, you know,
03:02:01.300 raised another 100 million.
03:02:02.560 I mean,
03:02:03.100 against all odds
03:02:03.880 and then beat
03:02:04.440 the mainstream media
03:02:05.160 in this country,
03:02:05.820 beat that whole
03:02:06.320 weaponized system.
03:02:07.780 You know,
03:02:08.100 he was down,
03:02:08.740 he was out.
03:02:09.480 There were serious questions
03:02:10.380 about what happened
03:02:11.000 in 2020
03:02:11.680 and I'm not a conspiracy guy.
03:02:12.940 I'm not like the tinfoil.
03:02:13.780 It's just a fact,
03:02:15.380 right?
03:02:15.840 Statistically,
03:02:16.240 you could prove it.
03:02:17.280 He's at 210 right now
03:02:18.480 to her 1.3.
03:02:18.900 And then he comes back
03:02:19.760 after all of that
03:02:20.520 and he wins
03:02:21.900 and he wins by
03:02:22.860 a massive electoral number.
03:02:25.160 It will be one of the
03:02:25.860 greatest comeback stories
03:02:27.160 of all time,
03:02:28.640 right?
03:02:28.880 The greatest I've ever seen.
03:02:29.920 I've never seen anything like it.
03:02:30.940 Like,
03:02:31.180 ever.
03:02:31.800 Ever.
03:02:32.160 And one last thing,
03:02:32.880 not to get too deep with you,
03:02:33.860 but...
03:02:34.220 No,
03:02:34.520 I'm loving this
03:02:35.940 and I've never heard you,
03:02:37.600 I mean,
03:02:37.820 I've talked to you a million times,
03:02:38.640 I've never heard you like this.
03:02:40.100 He wrote two books,
03:02:41.080 right?
03:02:41.480 One was The Art of the Deal
03:02:42.500 and The Art of the Deal,
03:02:43.260 if you look at it,
03:02:43.820 like,
03:02:43.940 it's just kind of the parallels
03:02:44.940 to the 2016 campaign
03:02:46.300 is really incredible.
03:02:48.160 But then he wrote
03:02:48.780 The Art of the Comeback
03:02:49.840 years later,
03:02:50.420 right?
03:02:50.540 He had the financial problems
03:02:51.440 in the early 90s.
03:02:52.620 Interest rates went up to 18%.
03:02:54.440 He was heavily levered
03:02:56.280 and he fought his ass off 0.85
03:02:57.680 to come back
03:02:58.260 from the brink of...
03:02:59.520 And he came back
03:03:00.100 bigger and stronger
03:03:00.920 than he...
03:03:01.940 Right?
03:03:02.120 And so he wrote a second book,
03:03:03.040 The Art of the Comeback.
03:03:03.900 And I've always said
03:03:05.340 that those books
03:03:06.180 mirror his life
03:03:07.440 in politics
03:03:08.420 and no one ever,
03:03:09.280 for some reason,
03:03:09.820 puts it together.
03:03:10.400 If he does what I think
03:03:12.280 he's going to do
03:03:12.820 within the next hour,
03:03:15.220 two hours,
03:03:16.480 if CNN decides
03:03:17.500 to drag it out,
03:03:18.680 it's going to be
03:03:19.520 the greatest comeback
03:03:20.080 in American history.
03:03:21.260 It might be the greatest comeback
03:03:22.180 in political history.
03:03:24.180 Down and out
03:03:24.900 with everyone against you,
03:03:27.120 sitting in a freezing cold courtroom
03:03:28.340 with 34 indictments
03:03:29.960 and everything else
03:03:31.040 they tried to do
03:03:31.540 to bury him
03:03:32.000 and bankrupt him 0.99
03:03:32.660 and destroy his family 0.82
03:03:33.900 and split all of us up.
03:03:36.480 And now all of a sudden,
03:03:37.460 you're here on the
03:03:38.020 one-yard line.
03:03:39.120 So, Tucker,
03:03:40.600 it's awesome.
03:03:41.620 I mean,
03:03:41.860 it's truly a fairytale story.
03:03:43.560 And it's a story,
03:03:44.380 in fact,
03:03:44.660 I think that if you wrote it
03:03:45.480 down in a novel,
03:03:46.880 people wouldn't believe you.
03:03:48.180 Man, it's not the life
03:03:49.280 you expected, I bet.
03:03:50.420 It's a very different life
03:03:51.180 than we expected.
03:03:52.720 Well, that was...
03:03:53.820 That was amazing.
03:03:56.360 I will not forget
03:03:57.200 this conversation.
03:03:58.260 He did say one last thing.
03:03:59.780 Coming down that escalator,
03:04:01.460 that first day,
03:04:02.200 right, the elevator,
03:04:03.020 he goes,
03:04:03.280 you're going to remember
03:04:03.760 who your friends are,
03:04:04.820 your real friends are,
03:04:05.820 and they're going to hit us
03:04:07.200 in ways that you can never
03:04:08.320 possibly imagine.
03:04:10.100 They're going to be ruthless.
03:04:11.300 They're going to be ruthless.
03:04:12.500 And he said that that day?
03:04:13.780 He said that going down
03:04:15.120 the elevator
03:04:15.720 before we got on the escalator,
03:04:17.720 before he announced,
03:04:19.220 obviously, in 2016.
03:04:20.720 Did you believe him?
03:04:23.320 Yes,
03:04:23.840 because he's got good intuition,
03:04:25.020 but never to the extent.
03:04:26.420 I mean,
03:04:26.840 were you for it?
03:04:28.540 Oh, I was totally for it.
03:04:29.620 Oh, absolutely.
03:04:30.020 In 16, you were for it?
03:04:30.660 Oh, I was totally for it.
03:04:31.380 Why?
03:04:31.800 But Tucker,
03:04:32.340 just remember one thing about 16.
03:04:33.380 Like, you had a pretty good deal going.
03:04:35.300 In 16,
03:04:36.520 we thought that the deep state
03:04:37.760 was like Nancy Pelosi
03:04:39.380 being in government
03:04:40.080 for 40 years, right?
03:04:41.040 Like, literally,
03:04:41.720 like, you know,
03:04:42.580 Joe Biden's been in government,
03:04:44.400 you know,
03:04:44.860 15 years longer
03:04:45.780 and I've been alive
03:04:46.400 and I've got gray in my beard,
03:04:47.380 right?
03:04:47.540 So,
03:04:48.040 that was,
03:04:48.900 remember like Drain the Swamp?
03:04:50.360 Yeah.
03:04:50.640 Remember this chance?
03:04:51.420 Yeah, yeah.
03:04:51.860 That was like,
03:04:52.720 okay,
03:04:52.960 get rid of Maxine Waters
03:04:54.040 who's been there for 40 years.
03:04:55.160 It wasn't like,
03:04:56.220 okay,
03:04:56.420 you're going to have the CIA
03:04:57.260 come after you.
03:04:57.980 You're going to have the DOJ
03:04:59.080 come after you.
03:04:59.880 You're going to have
03:05:00.320 every AG and DA
03:05:02.240 weaponized against you.
03:05:03.680 You're going to have
03:05:04.100 made up hoaxes.
03:05:05.600 I don't think we could have
03:05:06.360 ever comprehended truly,
03:05:08.700 truly,
03:05:09.980 how rough it was going to be
03:05:11.640 and I think his words
03:05:13.040 really rang true.
03:05:14.360 They're going to come after us
03:05:15.440 in ways that you can't
03:05:16.300 possibly imagine.
03:05:17.100 And if he wins
03:05:18.560 in the next hour,
03:05:20.440 I'm going to come find you
03:05:21.200 because I just want to
03:05:21.900 shake your hand.
03:05:22.960 Eric Trump,
03:05:23.520 that was wonderful.
03:05:24.000 Thank you.
03:05:24.360 That was fun.
03:05:24.880 I appreciate it.
03:05:25.660 Thank you.
03:05:27.940 So,
03:05:28.380 I think it's pretty clear
03:05:29.180 that a pivotal
03:05:31.040 figure,
03:05:33.300 not sucking up,
03:05:34.300 I've never taken any money
03:05:35.100 from the man,
03:05:36.020 just want to be clear
03:05:36.740 about that,
03:05:37.320 but a pivotal figure
03:05:38.140 not just in this election
03:05:39.540 but in the history
03:05:41.760 of this country
03:05:42.460 is Elon Musk
03:05:43.700 and who was just
03:05:45.760 walked in with his son
03:05:47.420 who's so cute, 0.94
03:05:48.300 it's ridiculous. 0.86
03:05:51.520 That kid, 0.99
03:05:52.460 oh,
03:05:53.120 hey,
03:05:54.280 what are you doing?
03:05:54.980 Do you want to just
03:05:59.940 throw any or something?
03:06:01.480 I guess so.
03:06:03.580 All right,
03:06:04.120 we've got many of me here.
03:06:05.460 It certainly is.
03:06:06.660 You complete me.
03:06:07.700 What's your name?
03:06:10.300 What's your name?
03:06:12.280 Actually,
03:06:12.860 we're going to show you
03:06:14.020 and then there's a
03:06:15.940 something
03:06:16.360 in this show.
03:06:20.100 X,
03:06:20.620 we're on TV.
03:06:21.980 I think
03:06:22.940 this is wild.
03:06:28.040 X,
03:06:28.540 should we help
03:06:29.060 President Trump?
03:06:29.980 Yeah.
03:06:30.820 Well,
03:06:31.040 you have,
03:06:31.680 you have.
03:06:32.840 Treats from the mouth of bait.
03:06:33.840 It looks like,
03:06:34.960 I mean,
03:06:35.260 it looks...
03:06:35.680 I started
03:06:36.180 in this
03:06:36.820 the quiet
03:06:38.860 we.
03:06:40.560 I don't know what you're saying,
03:06:41.400 X.
03:06:41.560 but you're getting,
03:06:43.300 you have the general vibe.
03:06:44.900 Yeah.
03:06:45.180 We're in SpaceX
03:06:46.300 and quietly just do
03:06:48.900 whatever we want.
03:06:57.380 I like your laugh.
03:06:59.400 That's a laugh
03:07:00.200 of an honest man.
03:07:01.940 Yeah.
03:07:02.780 I think this,
03:07:04.100 what's your assessment?
03:07:05.220 Is this,
03:07:05.720 did this work?
03:07:06.320 Is he going to win?
03:07:08.060 Yeah,
03:07:08.340 yeah,
03:07:08.860 it is.
03:07:10.340 Not for now.
03:07:11.020 No.
03:07:11.560 I think it's done.
03:07:18.820 You think it's done?
03:07:19.900 Yeah,
03:07:20.100 yeah.
03:07:21.640 But not for now.
03:07:23.320 Not for long.
03:07:25.300 So where are we?
03:07:26.360 89.
03:07:27.020 I mean,
03:07:27.680 okay,
03:07:27.940 so it's
03:07:28.600 1052.
03:07:30.380 It's a little earlier
03:07:31.400 than Obama told us
03:07:32.780 we're going to have to wait
03:07:33.320 a month or something.
03:07:34.520 Yeah,
03:07:34.620 yeah.
03:07:35.340 I don't know
03:07:35.900 if someone has
03:07:36.640 a star for L.
03:07:39.160 I mean,
03:07:39.640 I'm looking up
03:07:40.640 the data
03:07:41.240 as it comes in
03:07:42.340 from every county
03:07:43.120 of Pennsylvania
03:07:43.600 and
03:07:45.140 oh,
03:07:48.140 he can tell us.
03:07:49.260 It's all right.
03:07:49.980 it seems
03:07:56.760 extremely likely
03:07:58.040 that
03:07:58.420 if not
03:07:59.400 a certain
03:07:59.900 So
03:08:00.860 then we're done.
03:08:04.320 Done.
03:08:04.460 I mean,
03:08:06.840 are you surprised?
03:08:08.200 Because I'm
03:08:08.720 shocked
03:08:09.060 by how quickly
03:08:09.840 this happened.
03:08:11.040 I'm not particularly
03:08:11.540 surprised
03:08:12.080 because the
03:08:13.260 No.
03:08:17.780 Okay.
03:08:22.640 Sammy Timo,
03:08:23.640 oh,
03:08:24.100 she's so nice.
03:08:25.060 You don't need to worry.
03:08:25.800 she's really nice.
03:08:29.820 So
03:08:30.180 let's see.
03:08:31.100 So
03:08:31.300 I think more relevant
03:08:33.740 than the polls
03:08:34.480 is looking at the
03:08:35.480 early voting data.
03:08:37.800 And if you look
03:08:38.540 at the early voting data
03:08:39.580 in Pennsylvania,
03:08:41.920 for example,
03:08:42.800 and you compare
03:08:44.320 the Republican
03:08:46.020 minus Democrat vote
03:08:47.200 across all of the swing states,
03:08:50.820 but certainly in Pennsylvania,
03:08:52.980 the Delta was,
03:08:54.620 as of this morning,
03:08:55.420 I believe,
03:08:56.260 602,000.
03:08:58.140 So
03:08:58.460 meaning like
03:08:59.120 the relative to 2020.
03:09:00.700 So
03:09:00.860 if you say like,
03:09:02.040 okay,
03:09:02.940 how
03:09:03.300 how is President Trump
03:09:04.720 doing relative to 2020?
03:09:07.180 The difference in early voting
03:09:08.640 was over 600,000.
03:09:11.000 The margin of victory,
03:09:12.600 Biden's margin of victory
03:09:13.360 in 2020
03:09:14.080 was only 80,000.
03:09:16.240 Which
03:09:16.400 if
03:09:17.080 so
03:09:17.840 a reasonable extrapolation
03:09:19.040 assuming that
03:09:19.760 let's assume that
03:09:21.340 the in-person voting
03:09:22.220 is no better
03:09:23.120 than 2020
03:09:24.060 than you would expect
03:09:25.420 a margin of victory
03:09:27.140 for President Trump
03:09:29.040 of approximately
03:09:29.960 half a million.
03:09:32.200 Right.
03:09:33.720 So
03:09:34.160 yeah,
03:09:35.200 I don't think
03:09:35.500 you necessarily need to be like
03:09:36.600 some incredible prognosticator
03:09:38.760 if you just look at the data.
03:09:39.680 But they were telling us,
03:09:41.140 you know,
03:09:41.340 on CNN,
03:09:42.340 you know,
03:09:43.400 they'll
03:09:43.700 what was the point
03:09:47.020 of lying about it?
03:09:48.780 Well,
03:09:48.960 I don't know if they lie.
03:09:49.480 Maybe they just don't understand.
03:09:51.180 I mean,
03:09:51.680 I've been posting on X
03:09:53.100 about this.
03:09:53.740 I literally post the charts
03:09:55.360 and I post the data.
03:09:57.660 You know,
03:09:58.060 I'm just looking at the data.
03:09:58.800 How could Trump win?
03:09:59.700 I mean,
03:09:59.920 they indicted him. 1.00
03:10:01.340 He's a rapist. 1.00
03:10:01.960 He's a criminal. 1.00
03:10:03.640 I mean, 0.99
03:10:04.140 they've been attacking Trump
03:10:05.140 like every day
03:10:05.900 for nine years.
03:10:07.280 Sure.
03:10:07.400 And he wins
03:10:08.720 bigger this time
03:10:10.260 than in 2016
03:10:11.760 against a candidate
03:10:13.100 who's outspending him
03:10:14.400 three to one
03:10:15.140 all in.
03:10:16.020 How could that happen?
03:10:17.580 No,
03:10:17.780 it's remarkable.
03:10:18.340 In fact,
03:10:18.580 it's not just that
03:10:19.260 the
03:10:20.540 Kamala
03:10:22.620 sort of
03:10:23.280 Kamala machine
03:10:23.920 puppet machine campaign
03:10:25.420 is outspending.
03:10:28.440 So,
03:10:28.740 the Dems are
03:10:29.460 massively outspending
03:10:30.780 Republicans
03:10:31.240 in the swing states,
03:10:32.580 including any
03:10:33.300 contribution that I make.
03:10:35.740 But you also have
03:10:36.940 the sort of
03:10:37.560 legacy mainstream media,
03:10:38.580 which is overwhelmingly
03:10:39.240 in favor of Kamala.
03:10:40.880 They might as well
03:10:41.240 be an extension of the DNC.
03:10:42.520 Well,
03:10:42.640 they are.
03:10:43.100 Yeah.
03:10:44.660 You know,
03:10:44.940 the DNC just sends them
03:10:46.320 whatever the talking points are
03:10:47.880 and they all just talk like
03:10:48.900 NPCs,
03:10:49.820 essentially,
03:10:50.560 all day long,
03:10:51.100 instantly.
03:10:52.720 And then you've also got,
03:10:54.360 I mean,
03:10:54.660 God knows how many
03:10:55.140 celebrity endorsements.
03:10:56.040 I mean,
03:10:56.160 it was like
03:10:56.420 sort of running out of,
03:10:57.780 like,
03:10:58.500 there's any way
03:10:59.000 called 80%,
03:11:01.000 90% of celebrity
03:11:02.060 endorsements
03:11:02.540 on the Dem side.
03:11:04.320 So,
03:11:04.780 basically,
03:11:05.100 you have what
03:11:06.420 appears to be
03:11:07.340 a deck
03:11:07.800 that is very much
03:11:08.600 stacked in favor
03:11:09.340 of the Dem.
03:11:09.900 Like you said,
03:11:10.460 how can a Republican
03:11:11.100 win at all?
03:11:12.240 Yeah.
03:11:14.380 Now,
03:11:15.020 I mean,
03:11:16.060 one of the things
03:11:16.720 that we did do
03:11:18.100 to kind of
03:11:18.900 even the odds
03:11:19.620 was we massively
03:11:20.640 improved the
03:11:21.180 Republican ground game,
03:11:22.860 My America Pack.
03:11:23.600 massively improved
03:11:25.240 the Republican
03:11:26.140 ground game
03:11:26.700 in the swing states.
03:11:28.500 So,
03:11:30.020 the Democrats
03:11:30.580 only have the best
03:11:31.260 ground game.
03:11:32.300 You know,
03:11:32.680 just in terms of
03:11:34.140 knocking on doors,
03:11:36.080 talking to people,
03:11:38.080 sounds simple,
03:11:39.480 just having,
03:11:40.460 you know,
03:11:40.760 a good sort of
03:11:41.360 word of mouth
03:11:41.840 virality campaign,
03:11:42.940 having good,
03:11:43.640 you know,
03:11:45.200 messaging
03:11:45.440 that appeals to
03:11:47.060 people's specific interests.
03:11:49.100 and then making
03:11:51.700 sure people get
03:11:52.180 to the polls,
03:11:53.540 you know,
03:11:53.680 just making sure
03:11:54.200 that people have
03:11:54.560 transport.
03:11:55.460 The Democrats
03:11:56.060 are normally
03:11:56.340 extremely good
03:11:57.040 with getting,
03:11:57.880 just making it
03:11:58.760 convenient.
03:11:59.860 Because for a lot
03:12:00.560 of people,
03:12:00.900 if they'll vote,
03:12:02.380 it's just maybe
03:12:03.680 they don't have a ride.
03:12:04.680 Yeah.
03:12:04.860 So,
03:12:05.140 we just made sure
03:12:05.900 everyone had a ride.
03:12:07.700 We made sure
03:12:08.640 that any,
03:12:10.300 we paid particular
03:12:11.580 attention to the
03:12:12.160 Amish community
03:12:12.700 in Pennsylvania.
03:12:13.620 had anyone ever
03:12:17.760 gotten the Amish 0.97
03:12:18.380 out to vote before?
03:12:20.660 Not in significant
03:12:21.480 numbers.
03:12:22.460 But the Democrats
03:12:23.420 did make a mistake
03:12:24.100 because they,
03:12:25.260 there was government
03:12:25.880 overreach
03:12:26.340 and with some
03:12:27.300 of the Amish farmers.
03:12:28.200 Yes.
03:12:29.100 And,
03:12:29.580 you know,
03:12:29.860 they're just,
03:12:30.740 there's no such thing
03:12:31.680 as like,
03:12:32.800 like organic farming
03:12:34.480 or not organic.
03:12:35.180 They just,
03:12:35.700 they're farmers.
03:12:36.400 They're like,
03:12:36.780 they've been farming
03:12:37.420 the same way
03:12:38.020 for a long time,
03:12:38.820 you know,
03:12:39.140 and,
03:12:39.380 and there was some,
03:12:41.460 you know,
03:12:41.940 just government
03:12:42.840 overreach
03:12:43.320 that,
03:12:43.620 that shut down
03:12:44.740 some Amish farmers
03:12:45.600 which really,
03:12:46.780 you know,
03:12:47.400 made them pretty upset.
03:12:50.160 And,
03:12:50.640 you just need
03:12:52.220 to be able
03:12:52.460 to channel that,
03:12:53.880 you know,
03:12:54.400 the fact that
03:12:54.880 they're upset
03:12:55.360 and like,
03:12:55.800 well,
03:12:55.960 there's a thing
03:12:56.340 you can do about it
03:12:56.940 which is called voting
03:12:57.660 and,
03:12:58.800 and we're happy
03:13:00.400 to,
03:13:00.920 you know,
03:13:02.100 transport you to,
03:13:02.840 they're allowed
03:13:03.560 to ride in vans
03:13:04.620 if so long
03:13:05.620 as they're not
03:13:05.940 driving the van.
03:13:07.260 So,
03:13:07.760 you know,
03:13:07.900 we're just making sure
03:13:08.520 we bring them to the polls
03:13:09.560 and they vote
03:13:10.680 how they want to vote.
03:13:12.460 Which is going to be
03:13:13.220 like 99.9%.
03:13:14.600 Actually,
03:13:15.320 call it 100.
03:13:16.320 Call it 100.
03:13:17.520 Call it 100.
03:13:18.380 Call it 100.
03:13:19.220 He said,
03:13:19.580 yeah,
03:13:19.760 these are raw milk producers.
03:13:21.340 Yeah,
03:13:21.560 yeah,
03:13:21.680 yeah.
03:13:21.960 So,
03:13:22.200 you endorsed Trump
03:13:22.840 within minutes
03:13:23.960 of him being shot.
03:13:25.380 Yeah.
03:13:25.500 I mean,
03:13:25.820 how many,
03:13:26.580 I mean,
03:13:26.800 it was literally minutes,
03:13:27.680 I think,
03:13:28.040 as I remember.
03:13:28.440 Yeah.
03:13:29.360 And then,
03:13:30.140 you just went more all in
03:13:31.680 than I've ever seen anybody
03:13:32.780 ever.
03:13:34.020 Yeah.
03:13:34.160 What was the,
03:13:35.600 did you ever doubt
03:13:36.340 or did you just decide
03:13:38.000 to go on
03:13:38.440 and you just did it?
03:13:40.080 I mean,
03:13:40.520 my philosophy is
03:13:41.720 you play,
03:13:42.320 you play to win.
03:13:43.320 You don't play it
03:13:43.940 by half measure.
03:13:47.080 So,
03:13:48.680 yeah,
03:13:51.520 I mean,
03:13:51.940 I was with the team
03:13:52.580 every day,
03:13:53.120 seven days a week,
03:13:54.120 just working the early votes
03:13:58.080 in Pennsylvania
03:13:59.080 and other swing states.
03:14:00.960 First registrations,
03:14:02.200 first,
03:14:02.420 like if people don't register,
03:14:03.260 they can't vote.
03:14:04.020 So,
03:14:04.720 the initial focus
03:14:05.320 was just maximizing registrations
03:14:06.900 and then,
03:14:10.140 once the registration deadline
03:14:11.940 was over,
03:14:12.900 just getting the early votes.
03:14:15.960 You know,
03:14:16.860 yeah.
03:14:18.900 X,
03:14:19.620 from my perspective,
03:14:20.860 played a pivotal role
03:14:22.280 not just in this election
03:14:23.380 but in keeping the country alive.
03:14:25.900 Yeah.
03:14:26.620 Well,
03:14:26.900 X is,
03:14:27.220 I think,
03:14:27.680 the one place
03:14:28.640 where you can find out the truth.
03:14:30.060 Yes.
03:14:31.300 The only place.
03:14:32.500 Yeah.
03:14:34.260 So,
03:14:34.860 how much pressure,
03:14:36.080 to the extent you can say,
03:14:37.320 has there been on you
03:14:38.420 to shut it down
03:14:39.940 or to censor it?
03:14:41.360 Well,
03:14:41.640 I mean,
03:14:41.820 apart from the multiple Democrats
03:14:43.760 saying that I should go,
03:14:45.520 they want to put me in jail,
03:14:46.660 take away all government contracts
03:14:48.280 from my companies,
03:14:50.540 nationalize my companies,
03:14:52.440 deport me as an illegal,
03:14:54.060 and have me arrested
03:14:56.560 because I'm apparently
03:14:57.520 Putin's best friend.
03:14:58.740 Nothing besides those things.
03:15:00.700 So,
03:15:00.940 you saw,
03:15:01.440 Rachel Maddow sort of casually,
03:15:03.940 who's the single most popular
03:15:04.980 media figure on the left.
03:15:06.360 Yeah.
03:15:06.960 For the record.
03:15:07.900 Say,
03:15:08.540 just sort of casually,
03:15:09.280 well,
03:15:09.380 Elon Musk will obviously need to be
03:15:10.740 separated from his companies.
03:15:13.040 You know,
03:15:13.340 he can't be a government,
03:15:14.540 he can't hold government contracts
03:15:15.860 going forward.
03:15:17.880 Like,
03:15:18.160 how do you respond to that? 1.00
03:15:19.920 Rachel Maddow is a crazy person. 1.00
03:15:22.200 You know, 1.00
03:15:22.480 she's just a frothing at the mouth, 1.00
03:15:23.900 crazy fascist, 1.00
03:15:27.320 basically. 0.99
03:15:28.820 Dressed as sort of
03:15:29.700 pretending to be a liberal,
03:15:30.740 but she's just really like,
03:15:32.300 I can't imagine the,
03:15:34.520 imagine if she was in charge, 0.99
03:15:36.000 actually in a position
03:15:36.840 of political power,
03:15:37.660 what a nightmare that would be.
03:15:39.100 Well,
03:15:39.260 many would die.
03:15:40.720 Yes.
03:15:42.380 So,
03:15:42.820 do you expect the pressure
03:15:44.280 will lessen
03:15:45.360 now that
03:15:46.380 Trump?
03:15:48.520 I mean,
03:15:48.700 we'll see.
03:15:49.000 Yeah,
03:15:49.120 I mean,
03:15:49.360 certainly last time
03:15:51.080 President Trump was elected,
03:15:53.440 I mean,
03:15:53.700 I think they,
03:15:54.240 they tried to impeach him
03:15:55.020 within like 20 minutes
03:15:55.960 of him taking office.
03:15:57.640 Yes.
03:15:59.480 This time,
03:16:00.200 I don't know,
03:16:00.800 we'll see.
03:16:01.660 They may,
03:16:03.440 I don't think they'll be quite
03:16:04.760 as intense
03:16:07.760 as last time.
03:16:10.900 Because I think,
03:16:11.900 I think we actually,
03:16:13.560 we actually have a decent chance here
03:16:15.040 of,
03:16:16.540 of a significant victory,
03:16:17.800 not,
03:16:17.940 not,
03:16:18.220 not a small victory.
03:16:19.720 Yes.
03:16:20.460 And,
03:16:21.220 at the point at which
03:16:22.880 you clearly just have
03:16:23.820 the public mandate,
03:16:25.580 then you have
03:16:26.560 the public mandate.
03:16:27.560 I mean,
03:16:27.700 I think
03:16:27.940 numbers I've seen
03:16:29.420 were close to winning
03:16:31.560 the,
03:16:32.020 you know,
03:16:33.560 popular vote
03:16:34.160 in addition to the electoral vote,
03:16:35.660 even though there's
03:16:36.280 basically been zero campaigning
03:16:37.720 in California,
03:16:38.560 which is the biggest state
03:16:39.320 in the country.
03:16:40.260 So,
03:16:41.780 yeah,
03:16:42.500 sometimes people say,
03:16:43.100 oh,
03:16:43.400 you know,
03:16:43.820 the Republican
03:16:44.420 didn't win,
03:16:44.980 didn't win the
03:16:45.700 popular vote.
03:16:46.960 I'm like,
03:16:47.180 that's because
03:16:47.680 he wasn't trying.
03:16:49.280 If you actually try to win
03:16:50.140 the popular vote,
03:16:51.100 I think you do it.
03:16:51.920 Yeah.
03:16:52.420 Yeah,
03:16:52.600 it doesn't take that much.
03:16:54.500 I think it made a big difference
03:16:55.840 that President Trump
03:16:58.320 and soon-to-be
03:16:59.740 Vice President Vance
03:17:00.780 went on
03:17:03.440 lengthy podcasts.
03:17:05.220 Yes.
03:17:05.880 I think this makes,
03:17:07.200 like,
03:17:07.520 this is,
03:17:08.360 this really makes a difference
03:17:10.000 because,
03:17:11.380 you know,
03:17:11.520 people look at,
03:17:12.180 like,
03:17:12.280 Joe Rogan's podcast,
03:17:13.600 which is great,
03:17:15.060 and Lex Friedman's
03:17:16.680 and the All In podcast.
03:17:17.660 Yes.
03:17:18.540 And,
03:17:19.160 you know,
03:17:20.560 to a reasonable-minded,
03:17:22.100 smart person
03:17:22.960 who's not,
03:17:23.400 like,
03:17:24.340 hardcore
03:17:24.760 one way or the other,
03:17:26.020 they just listen to someone
03:17:26.900 talk for a few hours
03:17:27.820 and they,
03:17:29.240 that's how they
03:17:30.400 decide whether
03:17:31.900 you're,
03:17:32.620 you know,
03:17:32.980 a good person,
03:17:33.640 whether they like you.
03:17:35.020 And,
03:17:35.520 you know,
03:17:36.940 especially,
03:17:37.400 like,
03:17:37.960 Rogan's podcast,
03:17:38.740 three hours long.
03:17:39.640 I mean,
03:17:40.340 you know,
03:17:41.840 you could,
03:17:42.460 this is why,
03:17:43.060 like,
03:17:43.880 I actually posted on X,
03:17:45.400 like,
03:17:45.900 the,
03:17:47.480 nothing would do more damage
03:17:48.980 to Kamala's campaign
03:17:50.200 than going on Joe Rogan
03:17:51.120 because she'd run out
03:17:52.660 of non-sequiturs
03:17:53.240 after about 45 minutes.
03:17:54.420 You can't hide
03:17:55.040 in three hours.
03:17:55.840 Yeah,
03:17:56.260 like,
03:17:56.540 hour two and three
03:17:57.620 would be a complete
03:17:58.720 melted puddle 0.99
03:18:00.160 of nonsense. 0.99
03:18:01.800 So, 0.73
03:18:02.360 it would just be
03:18:03.060 absolute game over.
03:18:04.600 That's why
03:18:04.880 I shouldn't go on.
03:18:07.680 So,
03:18:08.120 I mean,
03:18:08.360 how does,
03:18:08.740 but Trump,
03:18:09.080 but on the hand,
03:18:09.600 Trump,
03:18:09.900 he's there
03:18:10.460 and there's no,
03:18:11.020 there's no talking points.
03:18:12.000 He's just,
03:18:12.360 he's just being a normal person.
03:18:13.200 He's having a conversation
03:18:14.080 on,
03:18:15.260 you know,
03:18:15.560 and doing three hours
03:18:16.780 of Rogan,
03:18:17.120 no problem.
03:18:17.360 What do you think of him?
03:18:18.020 You spent a lot of time
03:18:18.800 with him
03:18:19.160 in the last several months.
03:18:21.240 I think he's a,
03:18:22.620 I think he's a very interesting,
03:18:24.720 funny,
03:18:25.120 funny person
03:18:25.820 and,
03:18:26.320 you know,
03:18:27.420 much maligned
03:18:27.920 by the media,
03:18:28.520 obviously.
03:18:30.320 And,
03:18:30.820 he's withstood a lot,
03:18:34.080 you know,
03:18:34.340 and I think he's,
03:18:35.320 he's,
03:18:36.660 you know,
03:18:37.840 you mentioned,
03:18:38.960 as you mentioned,
03:18:40.280 I endorsed him
03:18:41.120 immediately after he was shot
03:18:43.280 because I,
03:18:45.560 you know,
03:18:46.000 when you see somebody
03:18:46.900 under fire,
03:18:48.780 what is their reaction
03:18:49.840 to that?
03:18:50.740 Because,
03:18:51.840 you know immediately,
03:18:52.660 is someone brave
03:18:53.520 or are they a coward?
03:18:54.460 Yes, yes. 0.96
03:18:55.240 Okay,
03:18:55.500 the bullets,
03:18:55.980 they get hit by bullets,
03:18:56.720 bloods,
03:18:57.100 you know,
03:18:57.300 come down the face. 0.99
03:18:58.680 They could,
03:18:58.940 they could have been
03:18:59.300 a second shooter
03:19:00.060 and yet,
03:19:02.320 you know,
03:19:03.780 he's going to fight
03:19:04.320 by fight,
03:19:05.040 you know,
03:19:05.640 that's,
03:19:06.180 that's true,
03:19:06.880 true courage.
03:19:07.780 Yes.
03:19:08.160 Can't fake it.
03:19:09.440 Impossible.
03:19:10.340 And,
03:19:10.740 uh,
03:19:12.000 America is the,
03:19:14.080 the home of the free
03:19:15.840 and land,
03:19:16.860 you know,
03:19:17.060 land of the brave.
03:19:18.000 So,
03:19:19.080 uh,
03:19:19.540 that's who we want
03:19:20.320 as president.
03:19:21.700 It was,
03:19:22.180 we want,
03:19:22.640 we want a brave,
03:19:24.300 a strong,
03:19:25.640 brave person
03:19:26.500 as president.
03:19:28.060 Amen.
03:19:28.460 And he is that.
03:19:30.240 How,
03:19:30.800 how are you going
03:19:31.260 to be involved?
03:19:33.280 Well,
03:19:33.780 I,
03:19:33.920 I,
03:19:34.320 you know,
03:19:34.740 I've set up,
03:19:35.280 be happy to help
03:19:36.120 improve the,
03:19:37.640 you know,
03:19:38.040 government efficiency,
03:19:39.640 obviously,
03:19:40.540 department of government
03:19:41.000 efficiency,
03:19:41.860 um,
03:19:43.500 which,
03:19:44.360 you know,
03:19:45.580 I think is,
03:19:46.180 it's sorely needed.
03:19:47.780 Uh,
03:19:48.440 we've,
03:19:48.700 we've got,
03:19:49.320 um,
03:19:50.260 a gigantic government
03:19:51.340 bureaucracy.
03:19:52.060 We've got,
03:19:52.820 uh,
03:19:54.160 over-regulation.
03:19:55.220 We've got agencies
03:19:56.120 that have overlapping
03:19:57.560 responsibilities.
03:19:59.460 Um,
03:20:00.100 there's something like
03:20:01.460 450 government,
03:20:02.860 federal government
03:20:03.320 agencies,
03:20:03.940 um,
03:20:05.280 you know,
03:20:05.500 almost two per year
03:20:06.800 that,
03:20:07.080 that,
03:20:07.840 since,
03:20:08.360 since America was,
03:20:09.140 was founded.
03:20:10.280 So,
03:20:10.820 I mean,
03:20:10.980 we're,
03:20:11.140 we're just creating
03:20:12.360 new agencies all the time.
03:20:13.640 Um,
03:20:14.000 and,
03:20:15.580 uh,
03:20:16.440 it's getting to the point
03:20:17.040 where basically
03:20:17.480 everything's illegal.
03:20:18.480 You just can't get
03:20:19.080 anything done.
03:20:19.640 I've noticed.
03:20:20.360 Um,
03:20:20.620 and this translates to,
03:20:21.620 these,
03:20:21.840 these become real costs
03:20:23.080 to,
03:20:23.500 to people.
03:20:23.960 They just,
03:20:24.260 they're,
03:20:24.640 they're hidden costs,
03:20:25.440 but they're very substantial.
03:20:27.320 Um,
03:20:28.000 you know,
03:20:28.220 it's very hard to build,
03:20:29.160 uh,
03:20:29.820 new housing if,
03:20:30.840 if,
03:20:31.000 if,
03:20:31.320 uh,
03:20:31.760 you're burdened with
03:20:32.440 massive requirements
03:20:33.300 that don't make any sense.
03:20:34.860 It drives up the housing cost.
03:20:36.600 It slows down new housing starts.
03:20:38.880 Um,
03:20:39.820 so,
03:20:40.920 you know,
03:20:42.240 we need to let the builders
03:20:43.100 of America build.
03:20:45.640 Amen.
03:20:46.160 Yeah.
03:20:47.100 So you're not going to the gulag,
03:20:48.520 it turns out.
03:20:50.000 Well,
03:20:50.420 not immediately.
03:20:51.180 I mean,
03:20:51.400 maybe in five years,
03:20:52.200 I don't know.
03:20:53.760 They might be probably
03:20:55.000 pretty grumpy about this one.
03:20:57.140 Um,
03:20:57.880 but,
03:20:58.800 uh,
03:20:59.720 I think I got at least
03:21:00.540 several years before I go to the gulag.
03:21:02.540 Well,
03:21:02.960 congratulations.
03:21:03.680 I've never seen anything like this
03:21:04.820 in my life.
03:21:06.240 Exciting times.
03:21:07.660 Amazing.
03:21:08.240 And here's to a fantastic future.
03:21:10.080 Elon Musk.
03:21:10.520 Thank you.
03:21:10.960 Thank you.
03:21:11.280 And thank you.
03:21:14.120 See you,
03:21:14.440 man.
03:21:15.400 Yeah.
03:21:18.420 Can't top that.
03:21:20.440 We're going to go,
03:21:21.260 uh,
03:21:21.540 see Trump
03:21:22.120 and,
03:21:22.680 uh,
03:21:22.800 join the celebration.
03:21:23.680 Thank you.
03:21:24.200 for more of your glory.
03:21:28.980 Bye.
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