The Tucker Carlson Show - Tucker Carlson on the Somali Invasion and the Self-Loathing Ideology Destroying America

00:00:00.000 Well, if you voted in the last election in the hope that identity politics would go away, identity politics being the way of seeing the world through the lens of your particular group, your tribe, your identity, the qualities you were born with and the group into which you were born, if you thought that was a bad thing and you thought it would go away after 2024, well, surprise, surprise, it hasn't gone away.

00:00:23.600 In fact, it's accelerated. And a lot of the conversation we have about it breaks along lines of, well, you know, I'm defending my group. I'm mad at your group. Let's have a debate about whether my group is good or bad. You shut up because you're criticizing my group. OK.

00:00:40.380 But if you think about it for a second, the debate itself is a sign of, well, impending collapse because no country, especially one that's the size of a continent that has hundreds of millions of people in it, can stick together unless there is a shared identity, a supra identity, identity that looms over all other identities that holds it together.

00:01:07.620 It's not the force of law that holds countries together. It's the force of custom, the force of language and the force of shared belief.

00:01:16.080 What is it to be an American? It's not just a dopey academic question. It really is the question that without an answer will lead to the breakup of the United States and possibly sooner than any of us expected.

00:01:27.200 And there's no answer for that question right now. And so the question, the meta question is why?

00:01:32.300 Why can't we decide on something as basic as what it is to be American?

00:01:38.400 How did we get here? How did we get to a place where people are starting to see themselves in terms that have no reference point at all in a national identity?

00:01:48.040 And, you know, over time where that's going. How do we get here?

00:01:51.280 That's what's worth assessing.

00:01:54.860 Now, one way into that conversation is the current debate over the Somali community, people from Somalia living in the United States.

00:02:03.040 And the reason it's interesting to start there is because there aren't that many of them.

00:02:07.080 They tell us about 260,000 in the country.

00:02:10.280 Of course, it could be 10 times that because we don't really know who lives here.

00:02:13.100 And millions upon millions of immigrants have fake identity documents.

00:02:17.600 Flash one of those at the airport, Mr. American Citizen, and you'll go right to jail as a terrorist.

00:02:24.540 But illegal aliens, of course, get to fake all the birth certificates and Social Security cards and other IDs they want. 0.97

00:02:31.080 And they've been somehow indemnified, which, again, is part of the problem.

00:02:33.800 But anyway, there are about, we think, 260,000 Somalis in the United States.

00:02:38.700 And famously, they are two things.

00:02:40.760 Not very successful.

00:02:42.460 The majority, the overwhelming majority, in fact, almost all of them are on assistance of some kind, welfare of some kind.

00:02:48.120 And poor.

00:02:49.320 Over 50% of all Somali kids are in poverty.

00:02:52.140 That compares to about 8% of native-born Americans.

00:02:55.140 So this is one of the poorest groups in the United States.

00:02:57.640 They're also one of the newest arrival groups.

00:03:00.280 There were about maybe two, this is just a guess, but there were about 2,000 Somalis in the country in 1990 during the first Bush administration.

00:03:08.480 None.

00:03:09.580 You never met a Somali.

00:03:10.820 You never knew anyone who had.

00:03:12.600 You had no opinions on Somalis because where's Somalia?

00:03:16.120 Africa somewhere? 0.66

00:03:17.760 Answer, yes.

00:03:18.540 But all of a sudden, in the subsequent 35 years, there are hundreds of thousands of Somalis, and they are, and this leads to the second thing we know about Somalis, they are clustered together.

00:03:30.360 They have not assimilated, as we say.

00:03:32.760 Of Somalis who've lived here at least 10 years, most still can't speak fluent English because they don't need to because they live around other Somalis, and they don't have to learn it or learn critically what ties this country together beyond clan or tribe. 1.00

00:03:49.360 So they're clannish and they're poor. 1.00

00:03:52.540 And they are also beloved by Democratic politicians.

00:03:56.520 So those are the three things we know about Somalis, and then recently we learned that in both Minnesota and the state of Maine, which is the two states in this country where they are concentrated, outside Minneapolis and within Minneapolis and in Maine and Lewiston and Portland, they have committed apparently, and by they we mean literally they, as a group speaking their language, communicating only with each other, massive multibillion-dollar Medicaid fraud, Medicare fraud. 0.99

00:04:21.660 So we know that, and that scandal is just broken, and the president has weighed in on it.

00:04:27.280 He's against it.

00:04:28.120 We shouldn't have any Somalis, he says. 1.00

00:04:30.680 And Democrats, of course, have pivoted back against Trump 180 degrees.

00:04:34.380 No, Somalis would have made this country great. 1.00

00:04:36.020 They built this country.

00:04:37.180 We wouldn't have a country without Somalis. 1.00

00:04:39.020 They built Minneapolis, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:41.460 We should have a Somali on the $1 bill with a digital version. 0.99

00:04:45.560 The programmable digital currency we're about to give you should be Somali-related.

00:04:49.680 And, of course, all the politicians are singing the Somali national anthem and waving Somali flags, and all of a sudden being Somali is, like, the essence of what it is to be an American.

00:05:01.280 But neither one of them is really kind of explaining what this is.

00:05:05.120 First of all, how did all these Somalis get here? 1.00

00:05:07.960 And two, how did it go so very, very wrong?

00:05:10.760 Is there something unique to Somali culture that has produced these disastrous results? 1.00

00:05:16.400 Probably the worst of any immigrant group in the United States, and there are hundreds and hundreds of different immigrant groups. 1.00

00:05:22.680 Somali's right at the bottom. 1.00

00:05:24.160 Maybe not the bottom.

00:05:25.120 Maybe there's a less successful group, but they're definitely down there in the bottom 5%.

00:05:31.160 Why? 0.99

00:05:32.620 Well, the argument that some are making is Somali's just a crappy country with a lot of dumb people, average IQ 80, and there will never be a successful Somali in the United States, and their religion is bad, and, like, there's just something inherently bad about Somalis. 0.99

00:05:48.980 And others are arguing, actually, they're the model citizens. 0.99

00:05:51.860 But it's possible that decisions made in this country exacerbated what might have already been a problem.

00:05:57.320 And the first is how they got here.

00:05:59.320 So how do we get immigrants in the country? 0.99

00:06:01.100 Well, traditionally, if you're an American, you assume that people come into this country, they're allowed into this country to fill a labor void.

00:06:08.720 We need, I don't know, stonemasons.

00:06:11.480 Hey, there's a lot of skilled masons in Italy.

00:06:13.980 Let's import them. 0.85

00:06:14.700 And that's a lot of our southern Italians to this day have ancestors from below Rome whose, you know, skill was stonemasonry.

00:06:23.900 So they came here and they built National Cathedral in Washington and a lot of other New York Public Library and a lot of other things.

00:06:28.240 That was the model for immigration for over 100 years.

00:06:32.480 We need this.

00:06:33.780 Let's find people who can do it.

00:06:35.240 We don't have the right people.

00:06:36.320 Let's bring them in. 0.98

00:06:37.560 That's the idea behind H-1B, which, of course, is not actually working as intended.

00:06:41.840 But the Somalis we're talking about had nothing to do with that.

00:06:45.640 There was not one economist in the United States who looked at the numbers, took off his glasses and said, you know, we need some Somalis and we need them fast. 0.99

00:06:55.160 No one ever said that because it's never been true and likely never will be true.

00:06:58.880 The Somalis who live in the United States came here as refugees.

00:07:02.660 Refugees.

00:07:03.060 So the assumption is if there's a problem in the world, the United States has a moral obligation.

00:07:08.200 No one ever clarifies where this obligation comes from, but it's preexisting.

00:07:11.520 It's just in the Constitution somewhere to bring that person and all of his relatives to the United States and pay for everything because that's who we are. 0.94

00:07:20.420 So that's the idea.

00:07:22.800 People dispute it.

00:07:23.840 But it becomes mandatory the second the United States government intervenes into someone else's conflict.

00:07:31.300 So the principle is called invade the world, import the world. 0.94

00:07:34.580 At the tail end of every American intervention around the world, we import, with the help of the State Department, all kinds of NGOs, Catholic charities and highest and all these different groups.

00:07:47.500 We import, quote, refugees from the country in whose internal affairs we are tampering and whose citizens we have killed, sometimes in large numbers, since we bring them over. 1.00

00:07:55.280 The Montagnards, the Afghan translators. 0.98

00:07:58.260 So the Somalis got here because there was a Somali civil war in the early 1990s.

00:08:02.720 The United States intervened in a limited way.

00:08:05.480 And for doing that, got punished and a number of Americans died.

00:08:10.080 It was famously publicized in a book and then a movie called Black Hawk Down.

00:08:13.080 You may remember that, in which Somalia, Mogadishu, its capital, was described as like the most barbaric place ever in the world.

00:08:21.180 And so it was out of that that arose our obligation to bring in hundreds of thousands of Somalis.

00:08:27.340 So, again, it's not an accident when the United States intervenes or backs an intervention somewhere in the world.

00:08:32.660 You can be certain the people from that country will be living in your zip code within 10 years.

00:08:36.820 And that's exactly what happened.

00:08:38.700 Somalia is not a huge country.

00:08:40.380 So we only have hundreds of thousands.

00:08:41.540 In other cases, we've got millions.

00:08:43.080 And, by the way, some have done fine and some have done great.

00:08:46.160 The Vietnamese did well.

00:08:46.980 The Catholic Vietnamese did well.

00:08:49.140 But whatever.

00:08:49.980 That's how they got here because of our foreign policy.

00:08:52.660 So that's the first thing to know.

00:08:54.020 The second thing to know is when they got here, and it's not just the Somalis.

00:08:57.640 It's every group that's imported as a refugee. 0.83

00:09:00.160 They were given way more free stuff than any American citizen receives.

00:09:04.240 Period.

00:09:04.680 And that would include housing vouchers and food stamps and supplemental income.

00:09:08.820 Of course, free education, free use of the emergency room.

00:09:12.720 By the way, if you are wondering how our health care system is doing, all the emphasis on health insurance, go to the emergency room sometime over Christmas and see what you see.

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00:11:29.760 Someone who works here had a grandmother who wound up two nights ago in the emergency with a broken hip, and she spent two days in the hallway on a stretcher.

00:11:38.820 They finally just gave her opioids to keep her from writhing because there was no room because it was so packed with refugees and other migrants. 1.00

00:11:48.720 Migrants, migrants, economic migrants.

00:11:50.480 So basically our health care system, our health care system, our hospitals, the place where you go when you're sick, totally destroyed by this last wave of immigration. 1.00

00:12:00.340 But if you're coming from Mogadishu, this is a massive upgrade.

00:12:04.160 You may wait two days on a stretcher in the hallway, but at least you're getting medicine.

00:12:09.000 So they come here, and the assumption is that they will somehow benefit the United States and be grateful for their time here.

00:12:15.880 But it turns out, and this is a very obvious point, but it needs to be restated, that will only happen if they are required by their host country, which is us, to start establishing some loyalty and gratitude to the country.

00:12:30.160 Thank you, America.

00:12:31.160 I'm so glad to be here.

00:12:32.080 This is my new home.

00:12:33.420 I am now loyal to the United States.

00:12:35.460 And this is considered totally unacceptable, toxic, as they say.

00:12:39.300 In fact, maybe a manifestation of white supremacy, because, and this is the critical point to know, the United States has lost the self-confidence necessary to import and assimilate people.

00:12:52.540 Our leadership class no longer believes in the United States sufficiently to convince newcomers to believe in the United States.

00:13:00.240 That is the bottom line truth.

00:13:01.520 That's why immigration no longer works. 0.93

00:13:03.440 It's not because the immigrants are bad.

00:13:04.860 Some are better than others, for sure, of course.

00:13:07.000 People don't have the same aptitude.

00:13:09.580 Sorry.

00:13:10.420 And it is visible across populations.

00:13:12.560 Sorry.

00:13:12.860 But the core problem is our leadership in the United States, which no longer says, and not just at the federal level, but up and down at the states, at the leadership of NGOs who are facilitating this, to say, okay, you're here.

00:13:26.640 Here are the rules.

00:13:27.940 Here's the culture.

00:13:28.920 Here's the language.

00:13:29.680 If you're going to take from us and live in our neighborhoods and use our community hospitals and force the rest of us to put our grandparents on gurneys in the hallway for two days, you have to buy into our system.

00:13:40.420 And nobody can say that.

00:13:42.360 So what is the result? 0.98

00:13:43.460 So play a couple clips from Ilhan Omar, who is famous as one of the dumbest, of course, members of Congress. 0.97

00:13:51.400 She has foreign policy views. 0.96

00:13:52.820 They're deeply offensive to the neocons, which is why she's famous.

00:13:56.640 But she's got a lot of views that are deeply offensive to normal people. 0.99

00:13:59.560 She hates whites, and she just says that. 0.99

00:14:01.960 You move to a white country and immediately start attacking white people. 0.98

00:14:04.540 How does that work exactly?

00:14:05.720 I don't know, but we tolerate it.

00:14:07.120 We celebrate it.

00:14:09.040 And, of course, she's not even here legally.

00:14:10.400 She got here on visa fraud because she married her brother.

00:14:13.740 It's kind of been proven.

00:14:15.680 So she's an illegal alien somehow serving in the United States Congress. 0.62

00:14:19.420 How did she get elected?

00:14:20.220 Well, because there was critical mass of her fellow Somalis in her congressional district, so she got elected.

00:14:25.800 So it's like worst-case scenario all the way around. 0.98

00:14:28.680 A dumb, bigoted person with anti-American views serves in the United States Congress, but that's not the worst of it. 0.98

00:14:37.480 The worst of it is, as she serves the United States Congress, as she serves the American people, she's actually serving her real people, which are the Somali people, and she says so out loud. 0.99

00:14:49.880 Here's the first of two clips from Ilhan Omar pledging allegiance not to the United States, but to Somalia.

00:14:54.880 I don't know if it's a special relationship, but I don't know if it's a special relationship, but I don't know if it's a special relationship.

00:15:24.860 Not the prettiest language, not like hearing Balzac read in the original, but whatever.

00:15:44.580 You can see the translation on the screen, and in case you couldn't, she repeatedly referred to our president.

00:15:49.600 Now, that was 2002.

00:15:50.580 The president was Joe Biden.

00:15:51.980 She wasn't referring to Joe Biden.

00:15:53.100 She was talking about the president of Somalia, our president, our leader, our guy who runs our country, which is not the United States.

00:16:01.500 And that was over three years ago. 0.93

00:16:03.460 So, Ilhan Omar's taken a ton of crap since, most of it deserved, but most of it has been aimed at her foreign policy views. 0.97

00:16:11.680 You're saying crappy things about the Israeli government or whatever. 0.98

00:16:15.060 How many of you have noted that Ilhan Omar is openly disloyal to the nation, our nation, that our ancestors built, in the United States Congress?

00:16:25.800 Ooh. 0.95

00:16:26.940 Plus, she's an illegal alien. 1.00

00:16:28.660 And if you think that's unfair, here's Ilhan Omar in 2015, before she got into Congress, making exactly the same point.

00:16:35.820 In 2016, it's election cycle, and you guys have the ability to make an impact on where our nation is headed, not only here in the United States, but even in our nation back home.

00:16:53.980 Our nation back home.

00:16:56.260 Who is we, exactly?

00:16:57.620 This is someone who seeks to lead Americans in our legislative body, our Congress, and our country refers to someone else's country that most of our actual countrymen cannot even locate on a map.

00:17:12.600 And she's not embarrassed to say it. 1.00

00:17:14.680 Look, politicians say idiotic things all the time. 1.00

00:17:17.760 Of course, they also have extremely idiotic ideas all the time, some very dark ideas sometimes. 1.00

00:17:22.940 But the difference is there's pushback. 1.00

00:17:25.360 No, you can't say that.

00:17:26.820 You can't say that.

00:17:27.700 That's totally out of bounds.

00:17:29.140 That's not how we do things here.

00:17:30.400 We don't have a tribal system.

00:17:31.720 We don't want one.

00:17:32.840 Yes, obviously, we're getting one.

00:17:34.380 But we're going to push back against it as long as we can, because we want the country to hang together, because we like it, and our ancestors built it.

00:17:39.800 So you cannot refer to a foreign country as my country.

00:17:42.800 And no, you can't serve in that country's military.

00:17:45.100 You can't have dual citizenship with that country.

00:17:47.920 Probably shouldn't speak their language in public. 0.77

00:17:49.920 And no, we're not putting your language on our ballots.

00:17:52.260 This is the United States.

00:17:53.300 You moved here because it was an Anglo country.

00:17:55.740 All these institutions were built on the Anglo model. 0.96

00:17:58.220 And if you hate that, don't live here.

00:18:00.620 That's totally fair.

00:18:01.960 It's the opposite of bigoted.

00:18:03.560 The United States is based on a universalist principle.

00:18:06.060 It is famously a country built on ideas.

00:18:09.260 Now, whether that works or not is an open question.

00:18:11.840 It's not working right now.

00:18:13.420 The countries that are working are ethnostates, actually.

00:18:18.380 China is an ethnostate. 0.97

00:18:19.460 It's Han Chinese. 0.74

00:18:20.220 It's a Han Chinese state.

00:18:21.160 Japan is a Japanese country.

00:18:23.000 Well, we don't have that, okay?

00:18:24.500 And we're never going to have it at this point.

00:18:26.580 So whether or not it was a good idea to build our national identity on a creed, whether it's

00:18:31.860 a good idea to be a creedal country or not, it is.

00:18:34.480 And there's no obvious solution to it at this point.

00:18:36.200 And so if we're going to continue this experiment and whether that works, you have to demand that

00:18:43.320 everybody's all in on something that unites every person in the country.

00:18:47.100 And it can't just be gay marriage.

00:18:49.060 That's not enough.

00:18:50.840 It's not enough to say we're a pro-LGBQ plus, and then, of course, not define it.

00:18:55.900 But your openness to other people's weird sex lives is not a unifying national principle.

00:19:04.600 Sorry.

00:19:05.140 That's weak sauce.

00:19:06.640 We can't have a religion because it's religiously diverse and the Constitution prohibits it. 1.00

00:19:12.360 At this point, we can't have a race, okay, because there are just too many different races. 1.00

00:19:16.240 Maybe that would have worked, but at this point, it's not going to work.

00:19:21.680 And the only way to get there is through violence and no.

00:19:25.140 So realistically, not on Twitter, but like in real life, what do we do?

00:19:30.400 And that's in force with efficiency and assertiveness, aggression even, the idea that you can't have 0.98

00:19:39.120 crap like that. 0.96

00:19:40.240 You can't have our leaders talking about their tribes in public. 1.00

00:19:43.700 It doesn't mean you can't identify with your tribe or live near people who speak your language in private

00:19:49.820 or be proud of the fact that your ancestors are from Somalia.

00:19:52.880 That's all fine.

00:19:53.980 It's great.

00:19:54.800 Keep your culture.

00:19:56.320 But when you're leading this country, if you're in a position of leadership,

00:19:59.160 you have to appeal to something that is universal, something that unites all of us.

00:20:06.120 You can't just demand that people be nice to my tribe, attack his tribe, but be nice to my tribe.

00:20:11.640 No, it doesn't work.

00:20:12.700 And that will, once again, for the fifth time, that will get to violence.

00:20:16.700 But we're just allowing this openly across the country.

00:20:21.980 It's not just in Minnesota with Ilan Omar.

00:20:25.600 Here's a state representative from the state of Maine.

00:20:28.660 This is the former mayor, briefly the mayor of South Portland, who's obviously not from Maine.

00:20:32.940 She's from Somalia.

00:20:33.640 And, of course, she has exactly the same attitudes.

00:20:36.820 Watch her.

00:20:37.640 How can the politics in Somalia can resonate what we have here in the United States, the democracy that we have?

00:20:44.900 How can you help us, you know, be a better country and build back what we used to have back in a long time ago?

00:20:52.680 So hopefully we will be able to help our country, our former country, Somalia.

00:20:58.960 How can you help us to build back better what we used to be a long time ago?

00:21:04.660 Well, that, of course, is basically Donald Trump's campaign slogan.

00:21:07.780 But she's not a Trump voter because she's not talking about the United States.

00:21:10.660 She's not talking about rebuilding the U.S., making our country better.

00:21:13.300 She's saying, how can you, as Americans, send more money to my country, which is not the United States, despite the fact I serve in the freaking state legislature in Augusta, has nothing to do with your country.

00:21:23.120 How can you help me? 0.78

00:21:25.000 But enough about you.

00:21:26.260 What about me?

00:21:27.800 That's what she's saying. 0.93

00:21:28.940 And no one says, shut up, honey. 0.98

00:21:30.200 Get out. 0.94

00:21:31.420 That's not acceptable.

00:21:32.520 To stand up as a state legislator and demand that the country that gave you safe harbor and free stuff and raised your three kids here for free, that that country pay your former country?

00:21:46.700 Because why?

00:21:48.980 That is totally not acceptable.

00:21:52.280 And yet, not only is it allowed, it's encouraged.

00:21:57.680 So take a look at a real part of the problem.

00:22:00.460 And, of course, Ilhan Omar does not deserve a pass, and she's not, you know, innocent here.

00:22:06.680 On the other hand, Ilhan Omar isn't from here, and she somehow went from a refugee camp, I think in Kenya, to the United States, and in a couple years, she's talking like a white liberal.

00:22:18.080 Well, how did that happen?

00:22:19.440 That's not a feature of traditional Somali culture.

00:22:21.680 She got that from white liberals here.

00:22:24.220 They taught her to think this way.

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00:24:25.820 Well, one of the people who did is a guy called Jacob Fry.

00:24:30.560 Now, he's the mayor of Minneapolis.

00:24:33.060 And Jacob Fry is the perfect guy for the job because he's not from Minneapolis.

00:24:36.080 He's not from Minnesota at all.

00:24:37.700 He's from suburban Arlington, Virginia.

00:24:41.140 He didn't move to Minnesota until he was an adult, until he got a job at some law firm in Minneapolis practicing discrimination law.

00:24:51.160 Okay, kind of tells the whole story there.

00:24:52.660 And within two years, he's running for office in a state he's not from and has never lived in before.

00:24:56.640 Knows nothing about.

00:24:58.780 Speaking of annoying immigrants, and somehow, mostly because the people who are actually born in Minneapolis 1.00

00:25:04.160 to understand its actual concerns are too busy and too disengaged or whatever,

00:25:11.680 not as well-connected and as aggressive as Jacob Fry was,

00:25:14.380 Jacob Fry becomes the mayor, ultimately, of Minneapolis,

00:25:17.840 which is one of the bigger and used to be one of the prettier cities in the United States.

00:25:21.620 He's got nothing to do with Minneapolis.

00:25:24.080 He's just showed up.

00:25:26.280 And he immediately sets about making Minneapolis like a truly modern city.

00:25:30.440 And by modern, we mean not gleaming glass towers or functioning air conditioning.

00:25:36.360 No, we mean homelessness, open drug use, and Somalis, 1.00

00:25:39.600 because you can't really be a modern American city, according to neoliberals,

00:25:45.020 unless you have a lot of open human degradation and suffering.

00:25:48.940 And that means you've arrived.

00:25:50.200 And then you can genuflect before the overdosing addicts on your sidewalks and say,

00:25:55.260 we care so much.

00:25:56.180 You can start the whole performance where everything's about what a good person you are.

00:26:01.940 So Jacob Fry has announced, and somehow didn't get arrested for saying this,

00:26:05.340 that they're just going to ignore federal immigration law in Minneapolis

00:26:09.140 because Somalis have done such a great job there.

00:26:12.640 Here's Jacob Fry, the mayor.

00:26:14.480 There are as many as 100 federal agents that will be deployed to the Twin Cities

00:26:20.580 with a specific focus on targeting our Somali community.

00:26:24.680 To our Somali community, we love you, and we stand with you.

00:26:31.000 That commitment is rock solid.

00:26:33.800 Minneapolis is proud to be home to the largest Somali community in the entire country.

00:26:40.120 They've been here for decades, in many instances.

00:26:44.280 They're entrepreneurs and fathers.

00:26:46.640 They benefit both the culture and the economic resilience of our city.

00:26:51.540 We will not compromise our values here in Minneapolis.

00:26:55.600 Our values and our commitment to the Somali community,

00:26:59.620 to every community of immigrants and people in our city,

00:27:04.100 is rock solid and will be unwavering.

00:27:08.140 Our police, many of whom are Somali themselves,

00:27:12.060 are trusted partners in keeping people safe.

00:27:14.360 They will not collaborate with any federal agency around doing immigration enforcement work.

00:27:21.020 America's own Justin Trudeau.

00:27:42.520 You know, at some point, probably pretty soon, because our system is changing so fast,

00:27:47.360 guys like that and their female counterparts are even more numerous, 0.61

00:27:52.480 sort of groveling before whatever immigrant group it is, 0.99

00:27:56.560 speaking their language in the most kind of obsequious way. 0.99

00:28:02.500 People like that will be considered a joke.

00:28:04.380 And as we look out on the ruins of formerly great cities,

00:28:06.420 we'll ask, like, how did anyone ever elect someone like that?

00:28:08.740 Because clearly the goal here is not and never has been to elevate the people who were born there

00:28:13.840 or who have lived there a long time, who actually built the city,

00:28:17.080 who are actually working hard, who aren't, you know, 90% on welfare,

00:28:20.720 like the actual producers, and just the normal people who pay their taxes and go to work.

00:28:25.120 It's not to help them.

00:28:26.380 Minneapolis has not gotten better in the last 10 years.

00:28:28.820 It hasn't gotten better under Jacob Fry.

00:28:30.180 It's gotten much worse.

00:28:31.260 Go there and you'll see city built by Swedes, tidy, kind of boring, sort of sterile, not very warm, 1.00

00:28:40.240 like the Swedes themselves, but functional, for sure, polite, absolutely, famously so.

00:28:47.040 Is it that now?

00:28:47.700 No.

00:28:48.920 It's dirty and dangerous and you know exactly the direction it's heading and so does Jacob Fry,

00:28:52.260 but he doesn't care because the point is to give speeches like that, the point of which is I'm a good person.

00:29:00.540 I'm a really, really good person.

00:29:01.740 Look at all the suffering around me. 0.98

00:29:03.240 I care, unlike you, white people. 1.00

00:29:07.660 And that kind of gets to what this really is, which is an act in racial hostility.

00:29:12.020 That's what this really is.

00:29:13.340 This is what you do when you hate the people who already live there. 0.59

00:29:16.320 And, of course, the Democratic Party has spent the last 30 years saying we don't like white men, just period.

00:29:20.200 We're not lying about it. 0.95

00:29:20.960 We're for the end of whiteness. 0.98

00:29:22.600 We can't wait until this country is less white. 1.00

00:29:24.980 Imagine saying that about any other group.

00:29:26.460 We can't.

00:29:26.760 We are the end of Jewishness. 1.00

00:29:28.720 We can't wait until there are no Jews here. 1.00

00:29:30.960 No one would defend. 0.96

00:29:33.080 I certainly wouldn't have.

00:29:33.840 That's horrible.

00:29:34.540 It's genocidal, actually.

00:29:35.880 And that's exactly the language Fry and people like Fry have used for 30 years.

00:29:39.540 So this is part of that.

00:29:41.760 Of course, by the way, I guess I'm liberal enough to assume there are probably Somalis you would like to live next to. 0.51

00:29:50.960 Who are great people and are entrepreneurial.

00:29:53.980 Shouldn't discount anybody based on how they were born, period, ever, which is why Jacob Fry's bigotry is immoral.

00:30:01.560 On the other hand, as a community, not a net benefit, not even close to a net benefit, as you're about to hear from two reporters, one in Maine and one in Somalia.

00:30:11.500 But that doesn't matter to Jacob Fry.

00:30:14.060 The point is political power and the ability to boast about what a good person he is, signifying, of course, that deep down he knows the opposite is true.

00:30:20.980 And it would be really interesting to get forensic about Jacob Fry's personal life.

00:30:23.880 And I bet you'd find exactly what you expect to find, which is a trail of sadness and broken relationships and betrayal and all kinds of other ugly things.

00:30:30.740 Just guessing.

00:30:31.300 So, but he's all in on this.

00:30:34.040 I'm a member of the Somali community, grew up in Mogadishu, you could probably tell, not Arlington, Virginia, never, no, didn't go to William & Mary, went to Mogadishu U.

00:30:41.760 And so once you embrace, adopt a new culture, that means you have to eat its food. 0.96

00:30:47.820 And so Jacob Fry, in other words, talked himself into a box.

00:30:51.580 He had to eat Somali food.

00:30:55.200 And the problem for Jacob Fry was that took place on camera.

00:30:59.560 And now you get to see what it was like for Jacob Fry to eat Somali food.

00:31:03.760 Watch.

00:31:11.760 There was an awful lot of chewing there, vanishingly a little swallowing, you may have noticed.

00:31:24.180 A lot of, oh, it's really good.

00:31:26.600 As he shovels a mouthful of gelatinous brown material, probably undercooks goat or something like that.

00:31:35.100 Kind of having a little trouble getting through the gristle and sinew in the goat.

00:31:39.460 He looked like he was dying there.

00:31:41.880 And you would almost feel sympathetic, except Jacob Fry deserves every bit of that.

00:31:48.580 Because like all of these people who import masses of suffering humanity in the United States for their own moral aggrandizement and their own political power,

00:31:57.700 they care not at all about the actual culture.

00:32:01.000 They know nothing about it at all.

00:32:03.400 And they don't care to learn.

00:32:04.880 It's merely a performance.

00:32:06.320 And there is a specific kind of white liberal who traffics in this for a living. 0.90

00:32:12.700 And there's something almost uniquely repulsive about them. 0.86

00:32:17.100 And again, it's not to give the Somalis a pass, but the Somalis aren't here by accident. 0.51

00:32:21.000 And the Somalis don't have these attitudes by accident.

00:32:22.900 If you imported 260,000 Somalis and said, okay, here are the rules. 0.99

00:32:26.940 This is how we behave in the United States.

00:32:28.700 No, we're not doing that here.

00:32:29.660 And if you don't like it, go back to Mogadishu or your refugee camp in Kenya. 1.00

00:32:33.720 If we had some self-respect, if our leaders actually cared about the country, if they liked the culture they represent, which is a pre-existing culture, it's been going for 250 years.

00:32:43.380 Then you can imagine that a lot of the Somalis, like every other immigrant group in the early 20th century, would probably be pretty what we used to call assimilated now. 0.83

00:32:52.800 But instead, the point is to bring the poorest, least educated people in the world to the United States, immediately put them on welfare generationally, destroy the cities you park them in for free, low-income housing, making a lot of landlords rich, driving out the people who live there who actually deserved our help, like the unemployed factory workers throughout the state of Maine who were displaced by the Somalis, the cab drivers who were displaced by the Somalis because the Somalis got their jobs to the government. 0.86

00:33:22.800 That's not the point.

00:33:25.840 The point is to punish the people who already live there and to worship at the altar of third world purity. 1.00

00:33:33.980 Now, there are a lot of ways to express this, but this picture, we're going to put a big picture and then we're going to zero in on it.

00:33:39.760 This is a bunch of Democratic Party poobahs in the state of Maine recently listening to a Somali Democratic activist talk. 1.00

00:33:46.880 Now, if you look, third from the left, there is a woman in purple. 1.00

00:33:52.800 And that woman is the – just linger on that picture for a second. 1.00

00:33:59.280 That woman is the Secretary of State of Maine. 0.92

00:34:03.760 And her name is Shanna Bellows.

00:34:06.320 And look at the expression on her face.

00:34:08.460 Is that the most perfect thing you have ever seen?

00:34:12.320 It's almost unbelievable.

00:34:14.660 She is sitting there worshiping. 0.86

00:34:18.220 Oh, there's a black person. 0.99

00:34:19.680 She doesn't actually know any, of course.

00:34:22.420 By the way, she's not from Maine either.

00:34:26.560 But she is just awestruck.

00:34:29.400 She's like the rich lady in your neighborhood who went to Kenya at 40 and just had a – on a safari and just had a life-changing experience.

00:34:36.000 They're so pure.

00:34:36.840 They're so decent.

00:34:38.720 She knows nothing.

00:34:39.920 All she knows is there's a non-white person, and I was told my whole life that that person, like Rosa Parks, is better than I am.

00:34:49.640 Oh, she claps her hands.

00:34:51.740 Oh, you're so great.

00:34:53.700 And you almost want to say, Shanna Bellows, like, can you tell me the details of female circumcision, which I think is pretty much universal in Somalia?

00:35:04.880 The clitorectomy, for example, where are you on that?

00:35:06.560 Are you for that?

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00:38:14.400 Anyway, that's State of Maine.

00:38:16.000 We want to go to a reporter from the State of Maine who I think is queued up now, Steve Robinson,

00:38:22.340 to explain how exactly this experiment that has made Shanna Bellows feel so virtuous,

00:38:28.660 really in awe to be in the presence of an actual Somali from the dark continent,

00:38:33.200 oh, sorry, Africa, Africa, which I'm sure she believes is a country.

00:38:38.740 How has this actually gone?

00:38:41.360 Steve Robinson is the editor of the Maine Wire, probably the only reporter left in Maine,

00:38:45.280 and who has done just remarkable work on this story.

00:38:49.500 Steve, how is it working in the State of Maine with Somali immigrants?

00:38:53.120 Well, the city of Lewiston, where they're concentrated, continues to set records for shootings in the streets

00:38:59.960 as well as overdoses compared to Bangor, which is a similarly situated town.

00:39:04.560 It's not growing as fast.

00:39:06.240 There's more people on disability, more people on welfare.

00:39:09.380 The economy is really laggard.

00:39:11.160 But if you ask Representative Deca de Locke, she says that Lewiston is a booming city.

00:39:17.100 And I couldn't help but note with a sense of irony that she made that comment shortly after

00:39:21.240 one of the, I think it was like the 200th shooting of the year in Lewiston.

00:39:25.560 But fortunately, the only young...

00:39:27.100 May I ask you to stop for a second?

00:39:28.200 You grew up in Maine.

00:39:29.880 I don't remember a lot of shootings in Lewiston when it was French-Canadian.

00:39:33.440 Were there?

00:39:34.020 Has it always had a lot of shootings?

00:39:35.080 No, it hasn't.

00:39:37.680 The city has changed quite a bit.

00:39:39.400 And to be fair, it was in a period of population decline in the 90s, mostly because of the mills

00:39:44.860 closing.

00:39:45.440 But you can't help but notice a difference in character between the immigrants who built 1.00

00:39:50.480 the canals and built the cathedrals and built the mill buildings with the last 25 years of

00:39:56.000 Somali migrant resettlement in Lewiston.

00:39:59.320 So I think everybody in the state of Maine recognizes that Lewiston has fallen on hard times.

00:40:04.580 Everybody there is suffering.

00:40:06.260 The migrant resettlement hasn't been some silver bullet for the economic woes like the Democrats 1.00

00:40:12.780 have claimed, like Secretary of State Shana Bellows would claim.

00:40:15.820 And I have to observe that while she's there smiling and gawking at Safiya Khalid, the head

00:40:23.200 of the Community Organizing Alliance, she was a former employee of Gateway Community Services,

00:40:30.580 which is the organization that's been making headlines because of the allegations of Medicaid

00:40:35.980 fraud against them.

00:40:37.400 So following the allegations of Medicaid fraud against Gateway Community Services, all of these

00:40:42.120 Democrats decided to share a stage with the former special assistant to the CEO of Gateway

00:40:47.760 Community Services.

00:40:49.340 So this is what we've heard a lot about in the state of Minnesota, to the tune of billions

00:40:55.820 and billions stolen through this Somali scam of federal health insurance. 0.95

00:41:01.340 So little attention has been paid to the state of Maine, which I think on a per capita basis

00:41:07.700 has been even more affected by Somali immigration.

00:41:11.600 And the fraud there has been enormous.

00:41:14.120 So it hasn't gotten any attention.

00:41:16.120 So can you just give us an overview of what's happened in Maine with fraud?

00:41:19.280 So I think the top line is that so much of Maine's Medicaid rules have been rewritten by Democratic

00:41:28.920 lawmakers with a view towards transferring wealth from working class white Mainers to migrant

00:41:36.000 communities, that much of what has happened over the last 20 years is actually legal.

00:41:41.720 You know, it's not really fair to call it fraud.

00:41:43.720 They've engineered these programs so that they transfer money specifically to companies like

00:41:48.860 Gateway Community Services.

00:41:50.660 We've created this soft services area of migrant services or personal support services.

00:41:57.300 And what these really are is just a pipeline of money from taxpayers into these NGOs, organizations,

00:42:05.060 by the way, that also have political activities, political organizations housed in the same exact

00:42:11.740 buildings in Lewiston as organizations that are signing people up for welfare.

00:42:16.420 So fraud maybe isn't exactly the right word because we don't have very many cases of that in the last five

00:42:24.160 years because nothing's been caught, nothing's been prosecuted.

00:42:27.300 And the rules are written so broadly that they can, for example, one clan could come into Lewiston.

00:42:34.420 They could start an LLC.

00:42:36.360 Let's call it Acme LLC.

00:42:37.960 And they could hire all of their cousins and their aunts and their uncles and then get their

00:42:42.880 aunts and uncles and cousins enrolled into MaineCare and then bill to their own company to

00:42:48.860 care for their aunts, uncles and cousins while employing their aunts, uncles and cousins.

00:42:52.840 That would be totally legal as long as they can manufacture the paper trail to not get caught in an audit.

00:42:59.900 It'd be totally legal to do that here in the state of Maine.

00:43:02.480 So why would lawmakers in Maine and Augusta, the legislature, why would they design a system

00:43:10.100 that made it easy, almost inevitable, this, the fraud, the theft of billions, why would they do that?

00:43:22.120 So I think for the Somali diaspora, it's clearly a way to become wealthy. 0.99

00:43:26.920 You said in your monologue, Tucker, that they haven't been successful.

00:43:30.740 I mean, I would disagree.

00:43:31.800 By the tribal standards of Jubaland or Puntland, they've been very successful.

00:43:36.100 The amount of money, I mean, they're driving around in Mercedes and Dodge Chargers, and

00:43:39.420 they've been very successful at playing the game according to the rules of their culture.

00:43:45.640 According to ours, not so much.

00:43:47.540 But for Democratic lawmakers, this is about electoral power.

00:43:51.040 In reviewing some of the contracts that the Mills administration handed to Gateway Community

00:43:55.780 Services, which is a very politically connected firm, in addition to facing allegations of

00:44:01.540 Medicaid fraud, in the contracts that they got in the run-up to the 2022 election, they

00:44:07.160 were given money, along with a bunch of other migrant NGOs, to go out and sign up migrants

00:44:13.380 for food stamps, for their EBT cards, for Medicaid.

00:44:17.400 And even they were even given money to provide groceries and household supplies to migrant 0.58

00:44:24.480 households, basically walking around money.

00:44:26.560 It was right there in the contract, the no-bid contract, that the Mills administration gave

00:44:31.320 to Gateway.

00:44:32.340 They were also allowed to keep data on the people that they were delivering these groceries

00:44:37.260 to and signing up for welfare benefits.

00:44:39.500 Now, under federal law, if you sign someone up for Medicaid or food stamps, you're required

00:44:43.440 to provide assistance registering to vote.

00:44:46.420 So what does that look like to you, Tucker?

00:44:48.260 You're given walking around money to migrants, you're helping them register to vote, and you're

00:44:52.560 keeping track of them.

00:44:53.660 That looks like a political arm of the Democratic Party.

00:44:56.560 So why wouldn't the Democrats support that?

00:44:58.860 And it's no coincidence that in the subsequent election in 2022, you know, French-Catholic-born,

00:45:05.060 French-speaking Paul LePage lost Lewiston for the first time in his political career.

00:45:09.520 Because the demographics of Lewiston had been changed on purpose so that he and people like

00:45:16.620 him would lose, and the fruits of their labor would be stolen by some group acting only on

00:45:21.760 its own behalf, right?

00:45:23.580 I mean, let's just be clear.

00:45:25.440 The Somalis who are engaged in this fraud, and I think it is fraud, are acting only on 1.00

00:45:29.460 behalf of their tribe. 0.79

00:45:30.240 That's it.

00:45:30.980 There are no other beneficiaries.

00:45:32.760 Well, certainly in the case of Gateway Community Services, which is the most high-profile group,

00:45:37.160 the allegation is fraud.

00:45:39.020 If what Chris Bernardini, the former employee who was there for five and a half years in

00:45:43.400 handling their main care billing, if his allegations are true, and I find no reason to believe that

00:45:48.660 they're not, he made the allegations to me back in March, and Gateway hasn't sued, hasn't

00:45:54.300 said anything, has barely even denied the allegations.

00:45:58.120 If those allegations are true, then they were engaged in systematic fraud.

00:46:02.760 What Bernardini said is that supervisors at the company were just logging into their computers

00:46:07.620 and inventing Medicaid claims from thin air, sending them to the state, and the state was

00:46:12.760 paying them over a period of five and a half years.

00:46:16.100 And during this time, the assistant executive director at Gateway Community Services was

00:46:22.380 Representative Deca DeLoc from South Portland, by way of Minnesota, by way of Kenya, by way

00:46:27.620 of Somalia.

00:46:28.180 The head of it is seen in pictures with Janet Mills, Abdullahi Ali, Representative Youssef Youssef

00:46:36.180 from Portland.

00:46:37.640 He's also a state lawmaker and a former Gateway Community Services employee.

00:46:42.860 Eklas Ahmed from Sudan is a former Gateway Community Services employee.

00:46:47.240 She's now the only employee in Governor Mills' new Office of New Americans.

00:46:52.680 So this is a thoroughly political organization that is best understood not as a one-off example

00:46:59.740 of Medicaid fraud, but as an arm of the Democratic Party.

00:47:03.600 This is functioning exactly as it's supposed to.

00:47:07.380 And they have every incentive to look the other way when there are allegations of fraud,

00:47:11.860 when there's audits that show that they're billing for services that they can't prove they

00:47:15.740 provided, which is what the audits have shown of Gateway.

00:47:19.020 Under Maine law, all that's required to turn off the flow of taxpayer money to Gateway Community

00:47:24.700 Services is a credible allegation.

00:47:27.260 You don't need a finding of criminal wrongdoing.

00:47:29.560 You don't need a failed audit.

00:47:30.840 All you need is a credible allegation, and the Mills administration could shut off the

00:47:34.700 flow of money to this organization.

00:47:37.080 They haven't done that, not after the two failed audits and not after the credible allegation

00:47:41.980 by a former employee.

00:47:43.060 They continue to allow this company to bill MaineCare right out of the pockets of Maine

00:47:48.260 taxpayers.

00:47:49.340 And even, Tucker, after we showed that Abdullahi Ali was in Jubaland, Somalia, a place I never

00:47:57.380 thought that I would have to learn about, running for warlord, running to depose the sitting

00:48:02.660 president of Jubaland.

00:48:03.860 And the attorney general of the state of Maine, Aaron Fry, gave them $400,000 from the opioid

00:48:10.520 settlement money.

00:48:11.940 So they know what they're dealing with, and they continue the flow of money into these

00:48:15.560 organizations because they know that it's going to be politically useful for them because

00:48:19.680 these organizations deliver the migrant vote.

00:48:22.320 And by the way, Shana Bellows has admitted on a podcast with Mark Elias that non-citizens

00:48:27.420 are registered to vote in Maine.

00:48:28.860 It's not a coincidence.

00:48:29.960 They're getting to the point now where they just admit it, and they're saying it's a good

00:48:32.540 thing.

00:48:33.800 Okay.

00:48:35.060 That's illegal, correct?

00:48:36.520 I mean, it surely can't be in federal elections, right?

00:48:38.900 So why isn't the National Guard in Maine?

00:48:41.760 That's an excellent question.

00:48:43.340 You know, Maine has lost the ability to self-correct, Tucker.

00:48:47.100 You know, we've been living under Democratic Uniparty with the Mills administration for

00:48:52.320 seven years now.

00:48:53.740 The corruption has become endemic, and the Somali diaspora is really just a part of the 1.00

00:49:01.160 Mills mafia that's been ruling over the state for seven years now. 0.99

00:49:05.260 I think you're going to need outside help in order to correct this.

00:49:09.440 That's why I'm very excited that the House Oversight Committee is investigating the abuse

00:49:15.040 of the Medicaid program here in Maine, and we actually caught the commissioner of the

00:49:20.120 Department of Health and Human Services, who oversees MaineCare, responding to one of

00:49:25.620 her co-workers saying, the goal here is to avoid a subpoena from Congress, and that was

00:49:31.360 in response to an inquiry by the House Oversight Committee.

00:49:33.980 So they are scared.

00:49:35.540 They're terrified of what the House Oversight Committee might find when it starts flipping

00:49:39.460 over rocks up here in Maine.

00:49:40.960 And even earlier, 10 days before President Trump was inaugurated, Attorney General Fry sent

00:49:47.480 around a directive to Health and Human Services employees saying, if you get contacted by

00:49:52.600 the U.S. Attorney's Office or an attorney from the Department of Justice, don't talk to

00:49:56.720 them.

00:49:57.000 You're going to come talk to us.

00:49:57.960 Come talk to us first.

00:49:59.400 That doesn't sound like somebody with a clean conscience.

00:50:02.140 Both of them sound like they have something to hide.

00:50:04.740 And what I suspect they are hiding is the fact that they've been pushing non-citizen Medicaid

00:50:09.320 benefits onto the federal government, which is illegal, that they know they've been using

00:50:14.060 the Medicaid program to fund voter outreach programs in migrant communities.

00:50:18.600 It's all about political power.

00:50:20.940 And they're using the working class people of Maine, people from Dexter, people from Milo. 0.86

00:50:28.360 They're using their money to fund this program.

00:50:31.240 And in the meantime, these Somali community leaders, so-called, are growing fabulously

00:50:37.200 wealthy.

00:50:39.080 Has the Justice Department done anything about this?

00:50:42.740 Not to my knowledge, no.

00:50:44.720 I'm not aware of any indictments or investigations into Somali welfare fraud or, by the way, the

00:50:52.980 activities of the Mills administration.

00:50:55.660 I mean, they very clearly took federal COVID money and gave it through no-bid contracts to

00:51:02.900 a hodgepodge of progressive groups like Gateway Community Services.

00:51:07.680 And in the contract, it said, go out, sign these people up for welfare, buy them groceries.

00:51:11.900 And oh, by the way, you can keep data on them.

00:51:14.520 And if you're following federal law, you've got to help them register to vote.

00:51:17.880 It's all laid out in the paperwork.

00:51:19.620 It wasn't particularly hard to find.

00:51:21.840 You just had to be looking for it.

00:51:23.120 But I'm not aware of any effort by the Justice Department to look into specifically what

00:51:29.220 Gateway Community Services is doing.

00:51:31.140 And they're not the only one either, Tucker.

00:51:32.760 There's the Maine Immigrant and Refugee Settlement Services.

00:51:36.920 It's another nonprofit based in Lewiston.

00:51:39.700 And if you put out a Google map of the shootings in Lewiston, right at the middle of it, that's

00:51:44.600 where you'll find this organization.

00:51:46.660 It's they run a tax services program to help the Somalis obtain benefits.

00:51:52.840 They run a driving school to help the migrants obtain driving licenses.

00:51:58.160 And they also are just an all, you know, like a multi-talented recipient of state dollars.

00:52:05.360 They can do alcohol counseling.

00:52:06.640 They can do opioid counseling.

00:52:07.840 They can do migrant services.

00:52:09.440 They're a MaineCare, you know, provider.

00:52:11.680 They were found in an audit to have overbilled MaineCare by $2.4 million.

00:52:17.120 And still, they're allowed to continue to bill MaineCare.

00:52:21.120 People still, I mean, Maine is one of the highest tax structures, highest tax rates in the country.

00:52:25.980 Why are people paying their taxes exactly in Maine?

00:52:28.580 Well, I mean, increasingly, they aren't.

00:52:31.840 They're doing the six months and a day so that they don't have to actually have a tax nexus in the state of Maine.

00:52:37.160 It's, you know, it's terrible.

00:52:38.460 But that's just how reasonable, smart, economically thinking people are going to, you know, modify their behavior around this state.

00:52:45.360 The reason why people continue to pay taxes in this state is because they're trapped.

00:52:50.640 You know, it takes a critical mass of savings to be able to flee this state.

00:52:54.760 So you can't.

00:52:55.960 And I've heard from people who say that they're just trying to save up enough money so that they can get out of this state.

00:53:02.020 And it's funny if you go back to the beginning of this year when the legislature came into session, there was a $118 million structural shortfall is what they called it.

00:53:12.640 It means they, you know, they didn't take, they think that we need to supply $118 million more to the government rather than having them cut spending.

00:53:21.980 And it was all Medicaid. All of it was Medicaid.

00:53:25.480 And so they had to raise taxes on cigarettes, cannabis, Netflix, hospital services.

00:53:30.400 They even increased the fee to become a licensed arborist in Maine because they were so desperate to find ways to raise money to pay for this Medicaid deficit.

00:53:40.000 It never occurred to them that maybe we should just stop allowing migrant services and personal support services to be billed under MaineCare.

00:53:47.340 This is a huge bucket of services that's thoroughly abused by these people, but the technocratic, neoliberal, progressive mind just can't consider that maybe their views of social and health policy are incompatible with their views on multiculturalism.

00:54:06.140 They just can't empathize with a people who would come to say Lewiston and fight for their clan and systematically scam these programs that are meant to help poor people.

00:54:17.180 It really breaks their brains to consider that maybe multiculturalism and their progressive, you know, economic policies are incompatible.

00:54:24.800 I detect a lot of hostility toward whites from Somalis.

00:54:30.100 Maybe I'm making up my mind. I don't think I am.

00:54:32.800 I find it totally unacceptable to come to a majority white country built by white people and then hate whites. 0.80

00:54:38.640 Like, I don't know where that attitude came from.

00:54:40.160 I'm sure Shana Bellows had something to do with it, but I detect that.

00:54:43.620 And I also detect like no attempt at assimilation at all.

00:54:46.900 Am I on the right track, do you think?

00:54:49.140 I think you are. And I think it may have something to do with the progressivism that they've been, I guess, inculcated with.

00:54:58.680 The sole employee of the Office of New Americans, Akhlas Ahmed, again, former Gateway Community Services employee, she's actually Sudanese,

00:55:07.540 but she was giving a video for some political event, one of these, you know, insufferable Zoom conferences.

00:55:14.160 And she said that there's no reason to assimilate.

00:55:17.940 She said that. No reason to assimilate. 1.00

00:55:20.260 And she is the sole employee, I would say the leader, of the Office of New Americans,

00:55:25.120 whose job it is supposedly to bring 75,000 migrants to Maine and help them assimilate into the workforce.

00:55:33.560 Now, it would seem that that's a, you know, a fireable offense to think that there's no reason to assimilate when you're the head of the Office of New Americans.

00:55:40.880 But not the case at all, because that office is not about workforce development or assimilation.

00:55:46.480 It's about bringing migrants to the state of Maine, resettling them, enrolling them in welfare programs, 1.00

00:55:51.840 and making them dependent on the Democratic Party.

00:55:55.280 I think the big phenomenon that you see in the migrant community in Maine, and I suspect it also in Minnesota, is the gatekeeper phenomenon. 0.99

00:56:03.900 So you have individuals like Representative Dekka Dalak, or Representative Yusuf Yusuf, or Abdullahi Ali, the CEO of the Dekka, of Gateway.

00:56:12.940 You have them coming here early in, say, you know, 2015, and they form these nonprofits, and they get the relationships,

00:56:19.140 and they get the contracts, and some money starts flowing their way.

00:56:21.900 And then subsequent waves of migrants become dependent on them, because they can offer a job, 0.97

00:56:26.980 or they can teach them how to sign up for housing or welfare benefits.

00:56:31.480 And so they build almost this Ponzi scheme of migration, and their power grows insofar as more migrants come into that scheme, 0.97

00:56:40.380 because they need more and more migrants, because as soon as a Somali in Lewiston learns English, learns the ropes,

00:56:46.920 learns how the Democratic Party works, they're just going to go start their own hustle, start their own NGO.

00:56:51.080 So they require a constant influx of migrants in order to sustain their own wealth and their own power. 1.00

00:56:57.480 But the average Somali or Sudanese or Angolan migrant in Maine is fairly conservative.

00:57:04.520 Their religious values are conservative, and they're just conservative generally by disposition.

00:57:09.300 However, they're just dogmatically supporting democratic policies that, you know, force girls to compete against boys in high school sports.

00:57:18.360 So it's all because of those gatekeepers.

00:57:21.720 And those are individuals often, by the way, Tucker, they don't even like.

00:57:25.080 Like, most of the Somalis that I've talked with, they don't like Deka at all.

00:57:28.520 And they find her sense of entitlement a little bit repugnant,

00:57:32.160 because she positions herself as the official spokesperson for all brown people in the state of Maine.

00:57:38.300 And they don't like that at all.

00:57:40.060 But it's useful to the Democratic Party to have those gatekeepers, because they can just deal with one person.

00:57:46.280 They can just pay off the one person.

00:57:47.820 They don't have to pay off, you know, a whole mob of people.

00:57:51.000 It's difficult to memorize all of those names.

00:57:53.860 So it's easier if they just have a handful of people that they can rely on.

00:57:57.520 And that's what Gateway Community Services was for the Maine Democrats.

00:58:02.060 I'm not sure that the organization can survive these allegations.

00:58:05.620 To the best of my knowledge, the CEO and founder is in Kenya right now,

00:58:11.880 with no plans to return because he's worried about meeting an FBI agent at the airport.

00:58:15.560 Is he running for warlord, too?

00:58:17.680 Or is that that only happens in Somalia?

00:58:19.440 You know, it's funny.

00:58:20.380 I have to get your expert opinion on this, Tucker, because in the first response that his organization has made to this whole story,

00:58:28.920 which we broke back in March, but the national media picked it up again following what's happened in Minnesota.

00:58:34.100 The lawyer's statement said that referring to him as a warlord was racist, that it was racially tinged to refer to him as a warlord.

00:58:44.660 But we have him on video twice in African media saying in Somali that he is using money he's raised in America to fund arms and militiamen.

00:58:57.160 There's even one comment where he says specifically that his plan is to use the military and the volunteer force to depose President Madhobi, the incumbent president of Jubiland.

00:59:08.080 To my mind, if you're walking around Jubiland, Somalia, and you're flanked by guys in camouflage carrying AK-47s,

00:59:16.200 and you've said very publicly on multiple occasions that your aim is to depose the sitting president, that counts as running for warlord.

00:59:23.560 I think warlord's in play at that point.

00:59:26.360 Yeah, I mean, if you are a warlord, I think it's fair to describe you as one.

00:59:29.240 So they've already learned to play the race card like the second they get here.

00:59:31.860 Oh, totally. Absolutely. And they've also they also know the, you know, trying to play to liberal sentiment.

00:59:42.920 They know, you know, interviewing some heads of main care businesses, you talk them on the phone,

00:59:47.780 you can tell that they're so accustomed just to being to being able to meld the platitudes of liberalism

00:59:54.360 and just bowl over whoever they're talking to when they say, oh, well, you know, where I'm only doing this because I want to help my community.

01:00:01.080 Well, OK, so how does the Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon, your driving factor into that, buddy?

01:00:06.400 They can't explain that. That's when they're like, oh, well, I don't think we should be talking on the phone anymore.

01:00:10.400 But they know the words and the phrases that will disarm people like Shana Bellows.

01:00:16.300 They know they know what they have to say. It's like a magic, a magic charm that they utter.

01:00:20.660 And Shana just kind of glazes over and gets that lizard smile on her face. 1.00

01:00:24.520 Yeah. Oh, black people. I love them. 0.98

01:00:27.720 Oh, there's nothing worse than a cringing white liberal. 0.96

01:00:30.040 Give me a Somali any day over Shana Bellows. 1.00

01:00:33.220 Last question. This is a huge story in your state.

01:00:36.220 It's not a huge state, but it's one of the oldest states and certainly the most beautiful of the states.

01:00:41.360 Is it being covered by any other media organization in the state of Maine?

01:00:46.060 That's funny you should ask, Tucker.

01:00:48.420 We broke the story back in March and all of the mainstream outlets,

01:00:52.220 which are either have received no bid contracts from the Mills administration or grants or are nonprofits funded by George Soros.

01:01:01.460 They ignored it for eight months.

01:01:03.220 And then finally, when the News Nation picked it up and a bunch of other outlets started running with it,

01:01:08.860 they decided, well, I guess now we have to cover these racist attacks on gateway community services.

01:01:14.800 And that's exactly how they they covered it.

01:01:18.160 You know, they they was all about, you know, outside attacks, racially tinged attacks on this service organization,

01:01:26.120 which is funny because these guys actually covered Abdullahi Ali's initial run for president in Jubiland like he was Somali Barack Obama returning to liberate his people.

01:01:36.500 They had these just wonderful glowing profiles of the guy as if it was, you know,

01:01:41.740 he was actually running to be president of a country rather than warlord of a territory.

01:01:46.180 So they know who he is.

01:01:47.860 They know exactly what's going on here, but they just didn't want to cover it because it didn't fit the narrative

01:01:52.580 and it didn't contribute to democratic power in this state. 0.72

01:01:56.400 So to the extent they have covered it, it's been totally from a hostile angle.

01:02:00.340 And, you know, the conservative main wire is the first to surface these allegations.

01:02:05.120 But, you know, the whistleblower here in this story, he complained back in 2024 before I'd ever talked with him,

01:02:13.800 before he even knew what the main wire is.

01:02:15.380 He's living in Florida now, by the way.

01:02:17.080 And I have to tell you that he after this story came out, he received a letter from Maine Revenue Services.

01:02:25.680 Can you imagine what Maine Revenue Services wanted from a whistleblower who was sharing news about corruption in the democratic regime here in the state?

01:02:34.580 He was being audited.

01:02:36.000 It was the first time he's ever had a tax audit.

01:02:37.920 They audited his taxes.

01:02:39.400 And it turns out he's the he's the first person, I think, in the history of the state to be audited by Maine Revenue Services.

01:02:45.080 And it turns out that the state owes him money because Gateway was still collecting, pulling money out of his paycheck while he was living in Florida, which doesn't have state income tax.

01:02:55.080 So the state of Maine owes him money, audited him.

01:02:57.640 When he discovered that, they said, yeah, well, if you want that money, you're going to have to file.

01:03:02.220 Unbelievable.

01:03:03.260 It is unbelievable.

01:03:04.640 It's maybe the most corrupt state out of 50.

01:03:07.720 I think I think that it's we're certainly in the running.

01:03:10.520 Certainly in the running.

01:03:12.100 New Jersey gets too much credit.

01:03:13.680 No, it's totally people are afraid.

01:03:16.300 Yeah, I would I would die.

01:03:18.180 I would beg for New Jersey or Massachusetts levels of corruption in that in there. 0.97

01:03:22.980 We could fix so much if we were just at like Massachusetts levels of corruption.

01:03:27.560 It's unbelievable.

01:03:28.980 Steve, thank you so much for that update.

01:03:30.520 I really appreciate it.

01:03:32.100 Thanks.

01:03:32.400 Thank you.

01:03:32.760 Well, speaking of a state that has almost no journalists left, the state of Minnesota, which you may have heard because the president has talked about it quite a bit, has been rocked.

01:03:44.140 It's not too strong to say rocked by a federal health insurance fraud scandal to the tune of billions and billions.

01:03:51.260 Liz Collin of Alpha News is one of the very few journalists left in the state of Minnesota and joins us now for an explanation of what exactly that story is.

01:04:01.380 Liz, thanks so much for doing this.

01:04:03.100 Can you just start at the beginning and tell us what has happened in Minnesota that a lot of people in Washington are upset about?

01:04:10.480 Yeah, Tucker, good to be here again.

01:04:13.700 You know, I've been a reporter in Minnesota for nearly 20 years now.

01:04:17.340 I've never seen anything like this news cycle these these last few weeks on a federal level.

01:04:23.260 It seems, though, as if people are finally paying attention, perhaps, as to what has gone on for years, things that we've been reporting for years.

01:04:30.740 I know I was on your show just this summer focusing quite a bit of time on our governor, Tim Walz.

01:04:36.040 There's many things to talk about there, but not so much this Somali fraud. 1.00

01:04:40.680 And you can actually call it that now.

01:04:42.180 I think that that's that's just something we've been able to do.

01:04:45.760 It seems like these these last couple couple months.

01:04:48.360 But a lot to say on that topic.

01:04:50.080 We're talking about billions of dollars in fraud.

01:04:53.100 We've been hearing 10 billion dollars plus at this point.

01:04:57.420 I think it's hard to even pinpoint an exact amount at the moment.

01:05:01.820 I think we're actually going to hear more this week on just that number.

01:05:05.180 But these social programs either being shut down now altogether, moratoriums put in place as enrollees in some programs, they've jumped by 200, 300 percent just in the last few years.

01:05:18.220 Perhaps your listeners have heard about the feeding our future fraud that got a lot of attention.

01:05:23.520 Well, Governor Walz was on the national stage as a vice presidential candidate.

01:05:28.160 But that alone was a 250 million dollar fraud.

01:05:31.320 Seventy eight people charged so far.

01:05:33.780 The largest covid fraud in the country, by and large, Somali defendants in that case. 1.00

01:05:39.740 So they were setting up these fake meal sites, pocketing millions of dollars, feeding fake kids, essentially.

01:05:45.880 This actually came a couple of years after a hundred million dollar daycare fraud.

01:05:51.980 So this is daycare centers again set up.

01:05:54.300 It's kind of the same playbook again and again.

01:05:57.180 These daycares set up, fake kids, millions of dollars in fraud.

01:06:03.440 I want to say also we've been just inundated with tips about all kinds of places that have been set up for years.

01:06:10.000 And we just checked some of these out this week.

01:06:12.460 We've been doing a lot of reporting on fraud.

01:06:14.960 But these are autism centers, daycare centers, adult daycare centers.

01:06:19.420 Nobody has ever heard of what the heck is an adult daycare, medical clinics.

01:06:24.700 Just recently we made a dozen stops.

01:06:26.980 And I'll be honest, Tucker, I think all of them, every single stop we made in checking out these businesses.

01:06:31.620 This was during business hours.

01:06:33.220 We see no kids, no people.

01:06:35.120 Or in some cases, we were just chased off the property altogether, as it seems that perhaps people are paying more attention.

01:06:42.520 But you can see it for yourself.

01:06:45.160 There's websites.

01:06:45.940 You just check how much DHS, the Department of Human Services in Minnesota, are giving these businesses.

01:06:51.980 But boom, no clients.

01:06:55.180 Or again, closed altogether during business hours posted on their doors.

01:06:59.260 It's so open, it seems, so pervasive.

01:07:01.800 And I will say that the taxpayers are absolutely sick of seeing this.

01:07:06.800 We've even done some stories recently.

01:07:08.280 You have some neighboring businesses to these fake businesses that are setting up surveillance cameras and actually rolling just to say, you know, there's no kids going in and out of this business.

01:07:19.200 Who do I give this video to?

01:07:21.240 They're stealing from us, you know, right across the street.

01:07:24.240 And we've been profiling those stories at alphanews.org.

01:07:28.160 We actually have a special fraud page dedicated to all these stories, so they're all in one place.

01:07:34.720 But it's pretty amazing to see as people are taking this into their own hands, as it seems the governor is just trying to kind of pivot.

01:07:42.420 He's running for reelection now here in Minnesota.

01:07:45.580 But I think this will go down in history, certainly, as perhaps the largest fraud in the country.

01:07:54.320 And I will say that these stops we just made, Tucker, were recent.

01:07:58.020 So you can tell that the fraud certainly has not stopped in the state of Minnesota.

01:08:01.500 Is it fair to call this Somali fraud? 1.00

01:08:04.940 I mean, these are immigrants who speak a language most Americans don't speak, and they're tribal in their orientation. 0.91

01:08:12.400 So I guess it makes sense.

01:08:13.300 But I just want to check with you. 0.98

01:08:14.040 This is primarily Somali fraud, fraud committed by Somalis. 1.00

01:08:17.580 Yeah, overwhelmingly, I mean, as just talking about the 78 defendants in Feeding Our Future, primarily all Somali, just a conversation recently with a commercial real estate broker.

01:08:32.020 She told me she's still being contacted constantly by members of the Somali community looking to rent office space of any kind.

01:08:39.000 They're basically saying we need an address just in case we get audited by the state.

01:08:43.420 They're actually that open about what they're doing and just talking about kind of echoing what Steve said as well.

01:08:50.140 We went to many of these addresses and have you always see a luxury vehicle perhaps parked in the parking lot, you know, with with one or two people inside a business, if there's anyone at all.

01:09:02.380 Or perhaps they're, you know, living in very nice properties, five, six hundred thousand dollar homes, luxury vehicles.

01:09:10.000 And, you know, that address will be getting, you know, tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars through these reimbursement programs.

01:09:19.520 But I counted just before coming on the show here, looks to be now six separate investigations launched on a federal level.

01:09:29.740 U.S. Treasury Secretary, the Walls administration has heard from, Transportation Secretary, the Education Secretary, the Department of Justice, the Agriculture Secretary.

01:09:39.800 They're looking at the SNAP data in Minnesota, welfare fraud and the House Oversight Committee, as Steve was speaking about as well.

01:09:49.740 So I've just never seen this all come all at once.

01:09:53.020 And this is all about fraud in some way, shape or form in Minnesota.

01:09:57.420 It's such an abuse, such an insult to the generosity of the United States that took these people in, not because we needed them.

01:10:04.500 We didn't brought them in as refugees because we're nice people, paid for everything because we're generous.

01:10:09.400 And then to be defrauded by those same people is is too insulting to take.

01:10:14.140 It doesn't really make sense that the state government didn't know this was going on because daycare centers, autism centers.

01:10:20.900 I mean, these are all inspected all the time.

01:10:23.160 I mean, restaurants are inspected.

01:10:24.340 Hair salons are inspected.

01:10:25.320 Nobody from the state noticed you had a daycare center with no kids in it?

01:10:30.600 Yeah, that's what we've been finding out through this process, that that's what one would think, that there are there are inspections.

01:10:35.440 But you can see even see in a lot of these records that, in fact, the last inspection would have been a year ago.

01:10:40.560 The last inspection would have been 18 months ago.

01:10:43.120 And there'll be all kinds of excuses during these site visits as to, you know, perhaps why clients aren't there.

01:10:48.580 And so we're hearing on the state level, on the DHS side, that there are not enough employees to really check this out.

01:10:55.320 One program recently that was shut down altogether, they had new license applications grow by 283 percent just in a matter of a few years.

01:11:08.720 There's also now this two-year moratorium, very similar, on adult daycares growing similarly to 300 percent.

01:11:15.380 But I still have a hard time, you know, saying that people at the top were not aware of this.

01:11:22.840 In fact, we've heard from some whistleblowers.

01:11:25.320 They've been running an account on X, basically trying to get as much attention as they can to this fraud.

01:11:31.580 I think it was in October of 2022 when they started, actually, this account and tweeting.

01:11:36.580 And they've now said, just more recently, that they approached Governor Walz, who's been in office now for seven years in Minnesota.

01:11:43.120 They approached him very early on in his administration to say, we need to meet with you.

01:11:46.920 There's a lot of red flags we're seeing in a lot of these Medicaid programs.

01:11:49.920 And they were met with silence.

01:11:53.080 And they recently made those allegations as part of this account on social media.

01:11:58.080 And we're in touch with a lot of these whistleblowers as well and have done some interviews.

01:12:01.660 And that's really what's interesting is the people who have been vocal or pushed back or said, you know, there's this or there's this red flag.

01:12:09.480 They've faced, they say, through our stories, retaliation for bringing this forward.

01:12:15.620 Again, we've seen, similar to what Steve was talking about, race being weaponized in all of this.

01:12:21.780 Our Attorney General, Keith Ellison, actually is caught on camera, if you will, in a recording, I should say an audio recording,

01:12:29.660 meeting with some of the defendants at the time of Feeding Our Future before they were charged.

01:12:34.200 But they were talking about how they were starting to see, you know, some of this money being turned off or they were struggling to get reimbursement at some of these, you know, fake sites.

01:12:43.660 They're not saying that they're fake in the conversation.

01:12:46.720 But right away, you hear the Attorney General, the, you know, top law enforcement officer in Minnesota say, you know, we're going to get this taken care of.

01:12:55.460 You know, Wallace doesn't like to hear about this either.

01:12:57.460 And this is the Attorney General representing the state side of things.

01:13:00.500 It's really wild to hear in his own words this meeting that took place, and that has since gone viral again in this case.

01:13:08.560 But that's what's also, I think, really enlightening, as we have had, different than what we're hearing about in Maine.

01:13:15.260 There's been so many cases now, and we're able to hear from these defendants in their own words.

01:13:20.280 And I will say, they say things like, you know, this is our culture.

01:13:24.160 This is what we do.

01:13:25.300 This is what they're saying in open court.

01:13:26.940 And it's part of the case.

01:13:28.900 The media won't focus on that, of course, or they'll say that this was our American dream, that they think in a way that they're entitled to this money.

01:13:39.020 Recently, I featured a story talking to a man who hired one of the defendants in Feeding Our Future.

01:13:46.000 She worked for his insurance agency in the Twin Cities for just a few weeks.

01:13:50.800 She forged a $30,000 check to herself.

01:13:53.720 He obviously calls the police.

01:13:55.300 She's fired. 1.00

01:13:56.240 She's charged.

01:13:57.800 Doesn't go to jail or anything.

01:13:59.620 It's about a year later.

01:14:00.760 She leaves a bribe on the doorstep of one of the jurors involved in the Feeding Our Future case. 0.99

01:14:07.640 So this was $200,000 that was supposed to be left for this juror.

01:14:11.260 She herself takes $80,000 from that bribe, leaves $120,000 in a Hallmark gift bag outside a juror's doorstep.

01:14:21.820 The juror, you know, calls it in and basically, you know, the juror is then switched out during the case.

01:14:28.140 But this is absolutely wild.

01:14:29.040 And to this day, this woman, who is now charged for the jury bribe as well and has gone on to then commit two more felonies, is still not behind bars in Minnesota.

01:14:41.040 So it really speaks to, you know, this so-called justice system that's in play here.

01:14:47.900 What have Democratic politicians said about this?

01:14:50.820 And have any Somali leaders apologized for it, for defrauding the country that was so generous to them? 0.89

01:14:55.940 No, it's deflection day in and day out.

01:15:00.100 I think you showed at the top of your monologue here so much pandering that we're seeing on a daily basis.

01:15:06.400 Mayor Frey can't go to enough Somali restaurants.

01:15:10.260 That's basically how he's spending his time and then apologizing again and again to the Somali community.

01:15:17.800 And we've had some reporting, just reporting from this month, in fact.

01:15:23.160 You know, now we are OK to, you know, it seems to almost print this, but it's 90 percent of Somali homes with children in Minnesota are on welfare.

01:15:32.520 So that's 90 percent.

01:15:34.720 73 percent of Somali households in Minnesota have at least one member on Medicaid.

01:15:40.520 So that's compared to 21 percent of native households in Minnesota.

01:15:44.840 And that was a report that came out just this month.

01:15:46.840 And I don't think before all of this, this report would have received any attention at all.

01:15:53.460 So there's just rampant taking to show up in a country and just take as much as you can from other people.

01:15:59.980 And if they complain, call them racist.

01:16:01.920 That's I mean, that's the picture you're painting.

01:16:03.460 Yeah, I will say, you know, I know that when we were speaking this summer, we talked quite a bit about the George Floyd lie that was perpetuated here in Minnesota as well.

01:16:14.780 And I think that, you know, if you line up sort of the timing, that's 2020, of course.

01:16:18.900 And this kind of started, I would say, 2017, 2018.

01:16:24.360 Some reporting back then, literally, there would be millions of dollars carted off.

01:16:31.900 TSA agents have talked to us about this, but millions of dollars in carry-on luggage going through the checkpoints at MSP, the airport here.

01:16:43.140 These people would be photographed.

01:16:44.920 You know, the carry-on luggage would be photographed, all the paperwork filled out.

01:16:48.100 And the thought was that this money was going to Somalia.

01:16:51.640 This is back in 2018.

01:16:54.000 But it was kind of, they even have said, how dare you ask questions?

01:16:56.860 You know, this is racist.

01:16:58.780 So I've been in touch with some of these TSA agents even more recently, again, as well, as they're talking about, you know, kind of connecting the dots that, oh, my gosh, this has been going on so much longer than just, you know, these last few months.

01:17:12.560 And people really need to get at this and stop this.

01:17:16.060 And I'll just say just it doesn't seem as if anybody on, you know, a local level here seems to be taking it seriously.

01:17:25.400 But, again, this is a – these are all positions controlled by Democrats in Minnesota.

01:17:30.660 When, you know, we're talking about Maine, the seven years, very similar to what has transpired here in Minnesota these last seven years.

01:17:39.140 So let me finish this by asking the same question I finished my conversation with Steve Robinson with, which is where's the rest of the media in the state?

01:17:48.380 Where's the Star Tribune?

01:17:49.240 I mean, you had – it's a pretty big state, certainly relative to Maine, and you had established media outlets there for, like, over 100 years.

01:17:57.040 How are they covering this?

01:17:58.280 Also, very, very similar.

01:18:02.240 It's kind of opposite world is how I just describe it.

01:18:06.580 You know, I spent myself at 15 years nearly at the CBS affiliate in Minneapolis and partly why I left into independent journalism.

01:18:16.240 They just would not tell the truth about anything, including this story.

01:18:19.720 But you also even have the Star Tribune.

01:18:22.020 It's a former Walls commissioner who is now running the Star Tribune in Steve Groves.

01:18:28.000 Basically, they should just now move into, you know, Walls' office.

01:18:32.060 I think it would just be easier.

01:18:33.900 There's not much transparency there as to that relationship.

01:18:38.560 But it's really frustrating.

01:18:40.480 But I think that there has been, you know, a breakthrough with this national attention.

01:18:44.660 I think it's going to be very interesting to see what happens.

01:18:47.320 And also with the Congresswoman, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's citizenship.

01:18:52.940 She married her brother.

01:18:54.560 The allegations stand to grant him citizenship.

01:18:58.700 But and we there was a three part documentary produced back in 2019 by Alpha News.

01:19:04.440 I encourage people you can check that out.

01:19:06.180 Liz Collin, where I am on X.

01:19:09.400 But I just recently tweeted about that again.

01:19:11.040 But here's all this documentation showing this relationship that was also ignored years ago.

01:19:16.920 And also some new what I would consider, you know, bombshell allegations that in fact allegations that Omar herself is not a legal citizen after changing her birth year on her records.

01:19:29.940 So that's a really interesting story that that recently came to light as well.

01:19:34.320 But changing her birth date from 1981 to 1982 for the longest time she maintained, she she got her citizenship naturalized through her father at the age of 17.

01:19:45.400 Well, when you check out her documents, it basically was saying that she was 18 by the time, you know, that that would have happened.

01:19:52.620 So a woman brings this to light. 1.00

01:19:54.660 Two days later, the Congresswoman changes her birth date on all of her records online, two days after that that took place.

01:20:03.960 And that has now been kicked up in the media again.

01:20:08.340 You know, is this Congresswoman even a U.S. citizen?

01:20:11.660 And she has yet to actually produce any type of documentation, you know, her naturalization records at all.

01:20:19.540 And I will say that, you know, we're we're all journalists over at Alpha News.

01:20:23.660 We've contacted the governor multiple times, the attorney general multiple times on fraud, Congresswoman Omar as well.

01:20:31.320 And they will not talk to us.

01:20:34.040 We're definitely blacklisted in the world of media in Minnesota, Tucker.

01:20:39.020 Man, you wonder where this is going.

01:20:42.180 Liz Collin, thank you for the work you've done, which is serious and rigorous and obviously essential and also brave.

01:20:49.180 So it's great to see you.

01:20:50.360 Thank you very much.

01:20:51.400 Thank you, Tucker.

01:20:53.740 Imagine living in a country where there's just zero tolerance for this.

01:20:57.380 That's not hate.

01:20:58.500 Actually, it's a form of love, setting standards, decent, universal standards that apply to everyone, no matter what they look like or who they vote for.

01:21:07.280 That is the promise of the United States.

01:21:09.720 And it's just evaporating without comment.

01:21:11.940 But we can't let it.

01:21:13.740 Thanks very much.

01:21:14.760 We'll be back.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - December 18, 2025

Tucker Carlson on the Somali Invasion and the Self-Loathing Ideology Destroying America

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