Tucker Carlson Responds to Julian Assange’s Release During Australia Speech
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tucker carlson is the one and only from the united states . He says the assange news just had me thinking so much about australia . He's a little ashamed to be a journalist but i'm grateful to be here thank you very much for having me .
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welcome to tucker carlson show it's become pretty clear that the mainstream media are dying
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ladies and gentlemen please welcome to the stage the one and only from the united states here just
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for us tucker carlson i appreciate it thank you
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i try not to listen to intros but we got the most famous journalist in the world i thought
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is that really a compliment that's like being the hottest supreme court justice
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you know the best restaurant in wagadougou not sure it's a prize that means that much i'm a little
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ashamed to be a journalist but i'm grateful to be here thank you very much for having me i've loved
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your country from afar my entire life i've idolized australia actually i haven't been here until a
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week ago but i had this view of australia in my mind of handsome brave men fighting off dangerous
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animals of beautiful women standing windblown in the surf and it's all true uh so i really have
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loved it we've been i think to five cities and i've just been completely and utterly impressed
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and really sort of the only downside is i've given speeches in a lot of them and i felt guilty during
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every one because rule one of being in someone else's country is don't talk to them about their
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politics there's something awful about that overbearing i lived in washington our capital city
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um it doesn't it's actually not so different from canberra weirdly i guess all capital cities are the
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same uh but we would get this sort of continuous retinue of foreigners showing up to lecturers bono
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showing up and i'd always think go back to dublin like what do you know you're not even an american
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um so with that caveat uh my apologies uh for having anything to say about your politics which i
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which i don't really understand except in the in the sort of grossest terms um but the assange news
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today just had me thinking so much about australia congratulations by the way
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that happened when i was on the plane and i just my jaw was open for the rest of the flight this
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morning from perth um it's something that i think anyone who knows anything about the case and that
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would include most australians um is thrilled to see um anybody who knows anything about that case
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and believes that assange should still be in prison is your enemy by the way in the enemy of human
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freedom and flourishing um it was monstrous that he spent 12 years locked away for exposing other
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people's crimes typically the way it works i don't know if law enforcement's the same here but
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the guy who discovers the crime doesn't go to jail it's the guy who commits the crime goes to jail
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and that's been inverted in his case um so i think it's wonderful news as you all know he's in guam
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dealing with one of our colonial magistrates i didn't know even had those but we do apparently
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in the united states uh and then he'll be flying here where he was born and my impression is i was
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texting with his wife this morning my impression is he plans to stay here for a while and so i think
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you know that's a huge net benefit to your country because he's a good man i know him i visited him a few
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months ago in belmarsh prison and saw how they were effectively torturing him to death
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and what i didn't realize until i got there even though i've been steeped in the case i know his
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relatives i know his wife stella um is that he was never charged with a crime in great britain
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never he was charged with no crime so in the free world we don't hold people who haven't been charged
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with a crime and we don't hold them in my country beyond a year unless they've been convicted of a
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crime or they're on trial for a crime um that's just the most obvious abuse of human rights and it
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went on for 12 years and he's an australian and i'm sorry i don't mean this as a criticism just
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i think this is a perspective providing observation but like why did anyone allow that
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he was held in the uk on behalf of the united states which by the way until recently hadn't
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charged him with a crime either and when it did charge him with a fake crime under an ancient
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statute that no one has ever charged under the espionage act which he pleaded guilty apparently
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finally yesterday he didn't violate it but he just wanted to get out of prison before he died
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um but he wasn't charged in the us he wasn't charged in the uk he was an australian and those
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three countries are aligned more closely than countries typically are they're three of the five
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eyes as you know and nobody did anything about it and i kept thinking like when is australia going to
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send a warship up the thames to get their guy back i mean it i mean what is that i don't know if
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you've i mean it the outrage of it i've been to london a lot recently and now i've been in australia
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for a week and there's just absolutely no comparison and i do think it's very important
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to update our files which is to say our perceptions of things are very often way out of date in some
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cases centuries out of date and i think the perception perhaps here i can't speak for you
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but around the world is there's this you know the mothership great britain that gave birth to all
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these other successful countries including the one that i live in and that it somehow has like
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moral authority as a result of that well if you haven't been to london recently book a ticket
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and then fly back here in fact why don't you just fly from london to perth assuming there are direct
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flights and ask yourself what do i notice one city is crumbling it's filthy it's been so misruled by the
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people in charge that unless you're rich you can't live there and you come back to and that's not an
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exaggeration go to london seriously and you come back to perth and it's what and i know everyone makes
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fun of perth and western australia but as an outsider i mean it's it's like san francisco
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without the junkies it's one of the prettiest places i've ever seen in my life and i thought
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i don't even know who rules this i don't understand the details of the politics i'm a foreigner
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but whoever is managing this place day to day is doing a remarkable job there are very few cities in
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the world as pretty as your cities and i know that you're so isolated and just far away in the
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southern hemisphere and you might not have perspective on that but some of the capitals that
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you read about and in some cases genuflect toward consider superior take orders from have no right
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to give you orders because they're they're in no sense superior to you in fact they're inferior to
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you by a lot and london is at the top of that list so i guess my bottom line advice and i mean this in
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this you know you know spirit of generosity and humility but is you know understand how impressive
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australia is in comparison to the rest of the world particularly the english-speaking world
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australia has advantages that the rest of us the other four the five eyes um can only dream about
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you're sparsely populated 26 million well-educated decent people law-abiding people you have virtually
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no real poverty no concentrations of poverty in this country it's like the most middle-class english-speaking
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country left in the world which is a huge compliment that's what you want it's basically egalitarian
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country egalitarian countries are stable countries you know bolivia is not stable because it's you know
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pyramid shaped this is pretty flat it's the last flat country economically in the english-speaking world
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and its natural resources you know dwarf everyone else's i mean i do think one of the great lies that
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we in the modern world have been told is that prosperity is generated by banks and real estate
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and that's it then money lending is the engine of prosperity and in the short term that of course
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can be true because it juices that you know that mysterious thing we call gdp which is to measure of
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economic activity but over time it doesn't actually create wealth that's a lie what creates wealth is
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productivity and what's required for productivity are resources and you have more resources than virtually
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anybody bauxite coal ore gas nickel copper lead uranium more than almost anybody else
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in a country with almost no problems except the ones that you allow your leaders to intentionally import
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and pretty much nobody lives here i just flew over you know most of your country this morning there was nobody there
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sheep dingoes desert and i know you know a lot of it's inhospitable but i mean just people from crowded
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countries which is most countries in the world look at this and they in envy this should be one of the
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most powerful countries in the world in fact by its nature it is because it has more than almost anybody
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else and so to take orders from some disgusting filthy fog soaked rock in the north sea holding one
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of your citizens hostage because they sent your ancestors here as a penalty i mean a certain point
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i think you need to say to them i i'm sorry it's 2024 we're in charge you're taking orders from us
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i and if it you know i mean it actually and i shouldn't say this because i know that there are
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members of parliament present but maybe you should take your refugee budget and buy a nuclear weapon or
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two so people take you seriously i'm not joking if you don't screw this country up on purpose through
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mass immigration which is what the other four countries have done that's the reason they're in
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decline no one wants to say it's true if you don't do that australia will lead the world because
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you have every advantage and people are happy here and so my strong advice to you is don't go the way
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of your cousins in our countries i mean canada of all countries in the world i would say canada is the
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closest um in its sort of essential facts to australia it's huge it's actually bigger than australia
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second biggest land mass in the world amazing natural resources an incredibly nice polite
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population well educated with a history of valiant war service you know sort of everything you would
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want a little boring that's good exciting countries are wildly overrated las vegas is exciting you
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wouldn't live there right there's something to be said about a country who's you know main forms of
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excitement are molson and sled dogs that's not bad and that country basically killed itself
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through bad leadership they completely changed the population of the country in 10 years completely
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and made it poor and now people can't buy houses there the economy's in free fall people who are
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born in canada cannot buy a house period because there are just too many people and i'm sure some
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of them are great people and by the way just to be completely clear i'm utterly sympathetic to people
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who want to move to my country for example we let in 30 million people illegally in the last four
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years that's a crime but i'm not mad at them i'm actually flattered by it they want to move to
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my country of course because it's the best country that's how i feel it's like someone saying your
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wife is hot yeah i think so too you can't have her but i'm glad you appreciate it i mean honestly
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that's how i feel i don't begrudge any immigrant from any country wanting to move to the united states
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because i love the united states above all i am american so it's not a question of being mad at
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immigrants i'm completely sympathetic in fact i'm empathetic i can't wait to get back to my country
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but that doesn't mean that the movement of millions of people mostly with low skills
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and no you know native command of the language and no shared culture the people who already live
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there doesn't mean it's good for the country itself it's not good actually it's bad it's
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the most destructive thing you can do to a country that's not racism that's not hate
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i'm not racist and i don't feel hate i feel true compassion and empathy but the purpose of running
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a government is take care of the people who are citizens of that country there's no other purpose
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it's not to save the world or change the global climate or whatever and it's certainly not to spend
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a huge percentage of your budget on refugee resettlement it's take care of the people who
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are born there that's your job in the same way a father's job is to take care of his children
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not the neighbor's kids and there's something almost beyond dereliction of duty in not doing that
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in other words i have four children for example and if a couple of them were in real trouble
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as people in all of our countries are the native born population in actual trouble
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you know one of my kids has leukemia for example another one has a drug problem and i say you know
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that's that's tough i'm really sorry but the neighbor's kids literally have never been to disney
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world ever and that's just wrong and so i'm going to take my retirement account and cash it out and
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take the neighbor's kids to disney world because everyone should have a chance to go to disney world
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see ya and i leave what's the message i'm sending to my own children i hate you i'm ignoring your
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problems because i'm focused on the problems of people who aren't in our family it's kind of that
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simple a leader's sacred responsibilities take care of his own people period period there is no other
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response but that's why he's elected that's why he's in charge that's why your dad doesn't mean
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you don't like the neighbor's kids or think they should go to disney world everyone should go to
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disney world but the priority has to be if your dad your kids because you're their father so if
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you're the prime minister of a country and you find yourself spending all of your time worrying about
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the populations of other countries you are not a legitimate leader period by definition we have
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someone in our country who sort of said that out loud i thought it was whatever leaving aside any other
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quality being orange or whatever whatever qualities you think trump has or doesn't have that was his
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core pitch in 2016 and there was sort of no arguing against it like how was that wrong how was a leader's
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job not to prioritize his own people of course it is no one can make a rational argument against that so
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they don't they attack anybody who raises questions about it and in the rest of those other countries
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including mine they're starting to criminalize complaining about it in other words this is a
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great thing and if you say otherwise we'll put you in jail and they're planning to do that here in case you
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don't know they've absolutely done that in canada in the uk they put a lot of people in prison for
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complaining about it hey i don't think you're taking care of the people who are born here shut up racist you're going to
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jail actually every week people go to jail for that imagine that imagine that and imagine the mindset
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that allows that if you are telling people human beings adult citizens that they don't have a right
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to express what they believe what are you saying well what you're saying is i don't think you're human
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because the right to say what you think pre-exist government it's something that you're born with as a
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human being it's what distinguishes you from animals and slaves that's the core of your human
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autonomy the right to say what you really believe to express your conscience and if you no longer
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possess that you are not human anymore you belong to someone else you are an object and so any leader
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who tells you you don't have a right to say that you don't have a right to criticize me or my policies
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that person considers you sub-human and that's a crime as far as i'm concerned we shouldn't even have
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that by the way my country we have an explicit law against that it's the first amendment to our
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constitution because ours is a revolutionary country and so the framers of our founding documents were
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forced under gunfire actually to think this through we're building a country from nothing what do we want
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but the founders of the other four countries big countries in the anglosphere you new zealand
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great britain and canada i honestly think they never imagined a world where leaders would strip
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from people their most fundamental right the right to express their conscience i don't think they imagined
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that possible they were christians and a sort of key tenant of christianity is god created people
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we didn't therefore we're not capable of owning them that's the abolitionist movement was based on that idea
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christians in the west ended slavery around the world they haven't gotten a ton of credit for it in recent years but they did
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of course it still exists in parts of the world but it does not exist in the west
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thanks to leaders who had a i mean i've been devout christians and it wasn't a sectarian question
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it was a more fundamental understanding of the world
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you didn't create people you didn't endow them with their rights god did that therefore you can't take them away
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and if you try then you are not treating them as human beings but as something less than that
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and i honestly think that people who wrote your founding documents just assumed that and didn't
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think it would ever be challenged well now it is being challenged
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and my strong advice to you and i said i wasn't going to weigh in on australian politics but my strong
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advice to you or any human being who wants to preserve the most sacred of his human rights
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would be to resist that up to and including being willing to go to jail for saying what you believe
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because if they can strip from you you're right to say what you think there's literally nothing they
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can't do to you there's nothing they can't do to you so um in any case i will stop there and take
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your hostile questions but i i just i just want to say i as an outsider and as someone who's seeing
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all of this fresh after spending literally 50 years dreaming about australia i don't know why
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every american's obsessed with australia do you know that any of you who are single looking for
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dating opportunities come to my country is that you you can't imagine you would just tear a swath
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it's the it's the accent no i'm serious americans are absolutely obsessed with australia and it's not
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just crocodile dundee and that horrible chain restaurant um i haven't seen a bloom and onion since
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i've been here by the way i don't think that's a native food um coming here really has shocked me
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and i thought it was nice i didn't know it was this nice and i hope that you know how nice it is
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as compared to places that you think are great i mean you you just have amazing advantages
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and if you want to know what can happen if you take those for granted and allow your leaders to act
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against your interests the interests of your children and of your nation then go to san francisco
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or new york city previously great cities that led the world um that are now pale limitations sad
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dangerous imitations of themselves and ask yourself especially in san francisco which does look like
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an australian city those of you who have been there go there now and remind yourself this could happen
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to us problems like that are actually pretty easy to avoid you just need to make common sense
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decisions like i don't know put your own people first enforce the laws already on the books don't
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put up with absolutely ridiculous behavior like defecating on the sidewalk you don't need to put up
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with that actually that's not a human right um just stick to those the problem is that when you allow
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them to fester they are pretty hard to fix actually you can get into a vortex and i've traveled to an
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awful lot of countries around the world and met a lot of really nice people and smart people
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who live in awful countries awful countries have you been to argentina everyone should go to
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argentina because argentina is a lot like the u.s and a lot like australia and canada for that matter
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it's a beautiful country with great people really smart impressive people a deep culture natural
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resources that places like china dream about um and has every advantage and they got into a spiral
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of self-hatred and bad rule and allowed a series of leaders to just absolutely wreck the place and
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wreck their spirit and when you wreck a people's spirit it's pretty hard to fix that so if i were
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australian and i kind of wish i was australian actually at this point i love your language i love
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your profanity i love your sense of humor i love the aplomb with what you deal with dangerous animals
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it's also impressive and cool um but if i were an australian i'd wake up every single morning
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and say i'm an australian right i'm an australian i'm way more impressive and when great britain on
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whose behalf you fought from 1900 in the boer war all the way through afghanistan the number of
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australians who've died at the command of corrupt leaders in great britain is unbelievable australia i
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was just reading this because i'm seeing all the the digger monuments around and i'm really interested in
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that and i was reading yesterday that australia in the first world war lost 1.2 percent of its
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entire population in that war its entire population the casualty rate among australian troops in the
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first war was 68 percent killed or wounded highest in the world the united states by contrast and we
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commemorate the first world war armistice day 0.1 percent so you gave disproportionately to that and
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every subsequent effort on behalf of other countries which is a selfless and kind thing to do and you
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should be lauded for it but i think especially with the assange stuff that's just a sign that it's time
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to act on your own behalf and defend your own country and i hope that you will thank you
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how good was that can we just give another round of applause to our special guest
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we um we are going to do a few question and answers but uh i'll start with the first one tucker
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obviously you've interviewed many people who's the most challenging and why
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i've interviewed a lot of drunk people people who have anxiety attacks on camera live
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i've interviewed an awful lot of politicians where you just feel like there's something so dark coming
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off them you know you get that feeling like i'm not really sure what you're into
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and i don't really want to know but i'm pretty sure drinking human blood is part of it you just
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i mean honestly if i'm being honest i think trump is one of the hardest to interview
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not and i don't i love trump personally actually and i agree with him on so many things and i'm
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certainly rooting for him now the department of justice justice in the united states is trying to
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take him out of the presidential race on utterly fake charges so i'm totally for trump in those ways
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but he's difficult to interview um because he's what's the word discursive he sort of goes off in
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other directions which very often are hilarious so you go in there with a set of questions like you
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know like your dutiful little dorky journalist i gotta ask him about this gotta ask him about that
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and you get to about midway through the first question he's off wow another thing and you just sort
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of realize no my job is not to get my questions answered they won't be anyway just enjoy it
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sit back and think of england um so yeah that's difficult unless you sorry i shouldn't have said
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that excuse me um unless you approach it with the right cast of mind which is just let it go this is
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this is a kind of performance art you're in the middle of the installation you know what i mean
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uh so i'm interviewing him soon again and um and i'm really looking forward to it i mean i'll just
00:25:15.640
say one last thing it is i mean i've been doing this for 33 years it's the only job i've ever had
00:25:22.460
and my views on it have changed really dramatically and my views about my co-workers who i despise
00:25:27.280
um have also changed dramatically despise more than really anybody uh in the world um but and that's a
00:25:34.940
heartfelt sentiment too i'm not just saying that i really mean it from the bottom of my soul
00:25:38.180
um but my views on it have changed and i think that one of the one of the mistakes that journalists
00:25:44.160
make a lot of them are are insecure and mediocre as people which is why they're in the business in
00:25:48.320
the first place so they can suck up to power and feel strong when they're weak inside um but one of
00:25:53.320
the mistakes they make when they go into an interview is they're thinking about the people back in the
00:25:56.920
newsroom and they're trying to impress them that's the real audience for the interview and so you see
00:26:01.220
them ask these questions these inherently fruitless questions all of which are designed not to elicit
00:26:06.260
information from the person being interviewed but to illustrate the journalist's moral superiority over
00:26:10.720
the person he's talking to well is it true mr putin and you eat children i do not eat children
00:26:15.860
but you do and he sort of has to wonder like does the guy expect putin to be like well it's funny you
00:26:21.620
asked i do eat children actually um and you caught me you caught me and i'm going to tell you now
00:26:26.060
exclusively that i eat children of course not the whole point is to let all the other dummies back
00:26:31.140
in the newsroom at abc news or nbc or what you know whatever these ridiculous absurd totally discredited
00:26:36.000
news outlets to let them know that the journalist is brave and i feel at my advanced age at 55 that
00:26:43.160
that's actually kind of not my role that my role is to elicit information to the extent that i can for
00:26:47.600
people watching and in the case of interviewing someone like putin about whom i do not have strong
00:26:51.940
feelings by the way i should say i still don't smart interesting very russian i'm very american
00:26:57.480
you know my goal in that interview was not to let people know putin's bad they can decide for
00:27:03.160
themselves they're adults don't anybody tell you who you have to hate i decide that i'm an adult man
00:27:08.740
i pay my taxes i'll decide who i hate who you what do you think i'm your dog no you know if i hate
00:27:14.740
putin i can hate putin if i like putin i can like putin it's completely up to me not up to you
00:27:18.160
okay so anyway um but my job is just to get they haven't heard him talk to even get him talking
00:27:23.960
just get a corpus of information out there from which they can make up their own minds
00:27:28.700
and i took in a lot of abuse for doing that oh you're his puppet or whatever shut up
00:27:34.480
you know the holy was completely ridiculous and in point of fact i mean they've told me to hate
00:27:39.440
putin for the last four years i've never figured out why i mean i i don't want to live in russia
00:27:45.380
i'm not russian they don't have the freedom of speech that we have in my country therefore i
00:27:49.420
don't want to live there it's kind of that simple um but i don't know why i should be mad at putin
00:27:53.980
great britain doesn't have freedom of speech do you know what i mean so like if you really think
00:27:59.640
about it i'm mad and should be mad at people who have hurt my family people are like wrecking my
00:28:04.940
country and driving inflation up to a point where my kids can't afford houses and filling my
00:28:08.560
neighborhood with people who aren't from there and who are hostile and making our country
00:28:13.420
completely you know shattered the social fabric is gone who did that did putin do that no joe biden
00:28:19.860
did that so if it's a question if the question is who is a greater threat to your family vladimir
00:28:26.560
putin or joe biden vladimir putin never called me a racist like what are you even talking about i
00:28:32.820
don't have any feelings about vladimir putin this guy's a lunatic who's wrecking my country
00:28:36.180
so again don't tell me how i'm supposed to feel i reserve that right for myself because i'm a free
00:28:42.300
man it's that simple thanks ducker i had a i saw a couple of our friends from the press gallery have
00:28:50.640
a smile when you uh were getting into the free press so i might ask paul sakal from the sydney
00:28:56.400
morning herald to ask a question great thank you
00:29:00.120
you've almost thanks for your speech of course mr carlson um it's the media can be extremely
00:29:08.880
negative so it's nice to hear uplifting comments about our country it's an amazing country it is
00:29:13.020
and i think we forget that in australia oftentimes i appreciate that you've pre-empted uh my question
00:29:17.940
on putin putin putin which i think you i think you did strategically because you knew it's what
00:29:23.860
we'd ask putin he's so bad and i also appreciate that did he make you take the covid shot take the
00:29:31.020
what the covid shot no he didn't sorry sorry sorry sorry
00:29:39.580
the the covid shot saved probably tens of millions oh yeah yeah definitely definitely
00:29:47.180
safe and effective this is why everyone loves the media probably a hundred times more
00:29:50.980
it's like a time capsule it's like it's like you're like the last japanese soldier on okinawa you
00:29:59.040
think the war's still going no it didn't save millions of lives it's hilarious sorry i'm sorry
00:30:05.020
i'm being boorish can i get the full answering without interruption okay i beg your pardon um
00:30:09.340
i'm interested in in in your position on putin that many people in this crowd would adore
00:30:16.040
conservative prime minister in this country like john howard tony abbott main mainstream right
00:30:21.360
wingers like boris johnson australian liberals some of their mps are in the crowd are vehemently
00:30:27.640
anti-putin they believe he's a reprehensible figure who doesn't believe in the values of conservatism
00:30:33.560
such as the rule of law and democracy which gives us the freedoms we have in our country
00:30:37.480
uh-huh i'm interested do you feel any do you feel any level of shame or regret that
00:30:43.640
you you were you were termed a useful idiot and then post your interview vladimir putin himself said
00:30:50.020
in his russian media that he was surprised at how weak your questions were and he also said that you
00:30:55.780
were wrong when you said that no other journalist had asked to interview him he said that's not true
00:31:00.520
we only thought tucker was the only person to report fairly i thought that you
00:31:04.460
were describing putin as a psychopathic liar and yet now you're taking his word for things
00:31:09.880
do you i mean let me let me just let me just let me let me um let me just quickly unpack your absurd
00:31:18.040
soliloquy if i can um first i i'm i'm stuck on the idea that boris johnson is a right winger
00:31:24.360
i do you know boris johnson i do boris johnson is uh is a criminal buffoon who like so many
00:31:31.600
who claim to love ukraine is single-handedly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of
00:31:36.840
thousands of ukrainian men in this war the ukraine cannot win and i would just i would refer you to
00:31:43.120
wikipedia how many how many more people does russia have than ukraine do you know 100 million
00:31:50.900
100 million and in a land war that's a relevant number it is not possible for ukraine to beat
00:31:57.300
russia the best they can do is sue for peace that's been known including by zelensky who wanted
00:32:02.720
that since the early days of this conflict and boris johnson on orders from the biden administration
00:32:09.540
shut down and this is not a disputed fact this is a fact admitted by everybody now shut down the
00:32:15.300
peace negotiations almost two years ago and ukraine has been completely destroyed and now zelensky has
00:32:20.580
passed a law allowing foreign corporations to own land there so you tell me what ukraine is going to
00:32:25.720
look like in 30 years when all of it is owned by black rock and multinational corporations and its
00:32:31.900
population is not ukrainian okay so so the tragedy of what's happened in ukraine orchestrated by the
00:32:40.020
western powers including your government and i hope you do and and driven by my government i feel shame
00:32:45.080
about it i hope you do too is really one of the great crimes of my lifetime so the idea that somehow
00:32:50.680
if you're against that you're for putin well of course that's absurd and by the way speaking of
00:32:55.660
your friend boris johnson he attacked me of course ad hominem and so i called him he was a journalist
00:33:01.060
not surprisingly a man of low character not shocking and so i called him and i said well you've called
00:33:06.820
me all these names why don't you sit down for a conversation i happen to be in your rainy depressing
00:33:10.600
slum london and we could have a conversation and he said i won't do that unless you pay me a million
00:33:16.760
dollars that's a fact that's an in non-dispute i have the text messages so if that is the credible
00:33:24.540
source of the slur that look if i were a toady of putin or i loved putin i would just say so
00:33:28.940
because why do i care i've already been fired i don't work for anybody i have no incentive and by
00:33:35.080
the way it's perfectly fine if people love putin well i don't understand what that has to do with
00:33:38.800
anything we are citizens of different countries we should judge first and foremost our own leaders
00:33:44.400
how's our country doing how are my children doing what's their future look like none of that has
00:33:49.220
anything to do with putin except to the extent that you all this country sit back your government
00:33:53.860
allows the biden administration to push us into nuclear war which is where we are right now right
00:33:58.260
on the cusp of it and somehow that's not a story that is that putin doesn't respect human rights
00:34:03.900
or the rule of law okay well just today julian assange was released after 12 years
00:34:10.100
12 years in custody and your government did nothing the uk made it possible and the united
00:34:16.960
states demanded it you tell me how that's consistent with the rule of law or democracy
00:34:20.780
it's not it's ruled by the intel agencies it's lawlessness and it's a crime so i'm not i mean
00:34:26.760
i'm not saying that we're morally equivalent to putin i'm not saying that what i'm saying is our
00:34:31.440
concern should be first and foremost how are our countries run and we give our own leaders a pass
00:34:36.200
time and time again because they point to some other creep on the world stage and say he's bad
00:34:42.040
kim jong-un is bad well yeah of course he's bad that's why i don't live in north korea that's why
00:34:47.140
i don't live in russia i have no interest in living in russia but the point is you're bad too
00:34:52.440
and the fact that he's bad does not allow you to continue being bad what and the last thing i will
00:35:00.100
say that i really feel deeply and i really resent on an emotional level and you'll pardon my passion
00:35:06.360
i don't know you i'm sure be very close friends if we did know each other but i i really resent what
00:35:12.400
i have seen across the west in the past 15 years and it's a sea change from my youth when my father
00:35:16.840
was a reporter this alignment between media organizations and the government i find disgusting
00:35:22.880
actually i i think it's it's a perfect it's a perfect inversion of what you're supposed to do
00:35:30.120
if you're a journalist your job is to challenge power on behalf of the powerless it is not to align
00:35:36.560
with the powerful against the powerless and that is precisely what you have done i watched your abc this
00:35:42.860
morning in my hotel room for about 20 minutes until i looked around for a vomit bag and i watched
00:35:49.240
it was one of the most gross i couldn't even believe it was real the first story this is
00:35:54.060
unbelievable the first story the first story was assange god bless them that is the biggest story
00:35:58.380
the second story was a family of four found dead in a house i think in a suburb of sydney but it may
00:36:05.640
have been melbourne i beg your pardon but four australians found dead of what they suspected was a drug
00:36:11.100
od apparently they've been taking a new synthetic opioid that has emerged in australia and is killing
00:36:16.580
people now this is a huge problem where i live much bigger than here so i but i'm familiar with it
00:36:19.780
and the reporter said it's probably the synthetic opioid and it's been seen and they're dead
00:36:24.520
on to the next story the next story was the australian government's new law that will require a
00:36:29.600
prescription to buy nicotine products and we were treated to a 15 minute lecture on abc whatever the
00:36:37.660
hell that is about how nicotine is dangerous and we need to keep it out of the hands of australians and
00:36:42.520
i'm like wait a second nicotine first of all is not dangerous that's not true it's factually
00:36:46.420
incorrect you know nothing about the science a b compared to what compared to what oh we have this
00:36:53.760
new synthetic opioid that's killing people the government not too concerned what they're really
00:36:58.260
concerned about is that people might be using nicotine which by the way has the byproduct of
00:37:03.280
raising testosterone levels and making people a little harder to command that's a massive threat
00:37:07.100
so this is the point where the media gets involved and says wait a second let's chart the death toll
00:37:15.560
from vaping versus fentanyl maybe one's a little worse than the other and what exactly are you doing
00:37:21.200
about it why don't you press your ministers and your prime minister what are you doing about it
00:37:24.840
about drug use and the answer is nothing instead they're hassling people who adults who want to use
00:37:31.280
nicotine which i would highly recommend to every person in this room as a life enhancing god-given
00:37:36.080
chemical that's just my view but i'm like a media should be like holding these people to the fire
00:37:42.920
on that or the vax injuries and deaths which are manifold they're everywhere are you joking
00:37:49.260
and in and and like countries that actually believe in science and there are a few in europe
00:37:54.580
they're looking at the and every vaccine causes injuries every single one one of my children was
00:37:59.500
injured by a flu vaccine this is known in the united states we're not allowed to sue we can sue
00:38:03.700
makers of playground equipment totally fine you can sue anybody for anything gun manufacturers you
00:38:08.200
cannot sue vaccine manufacturers and every vaccine causes injuries every single one and there's a
00:38:12.100
database publicly available in the united states that shows you how many and the covet vax the mrna
00:38:17.260
vax from pfizer has caused more injuries than all self-reported injuries than all the previous
00:38:22.680
vaccination campaigns for the last 50 years combined and no one in the media has written a story about it
00:38:27.900
because well there are a couple reasons one is that pfizer is one of the largest advertisers on
00:38:32.940
television in the united states and the point is not to sell the product and i worked in television
00:38:36.880
my whole life so i can this is not speculation the point is not to sell some weird drug for
00:38:42.080
rheumatoid arthritis to tv viewers because people can't prescribe their own drugs no that's not the
00:38:46.780
point this is not a retail sales pitch this is an insurance policy that the drug makers are buying
00:38:52.920
with the big media companies where your biggest advertiser maybe if we have a lot of vax injuries
00:38:57.340
from a brand new product you won't say too much and they don't i think that's completely corrupt and
00:39:02.000
shameful and and i have to say you know i was i was fired over a year ago so i don't have to like
00:39:08.240
worry about this or be defensive about it because i like don't have a job so there is a certain freedom
00:39:13.020
in unemployment and so i sympathize with you guys who work for these companies that are like truly
00:39:18.220
corrupt and you sort of know that but you don't want to deal with it because you've got kids and a
00:39:20.800
mortgage i get it i've been there but let's just be honest everybody else knows what it is everyone
00:39:25.560
else knows how corrupt you are and so there's a reason they have contempt for you i'm just saying
00:39:29.800
thanks tucker um on on that on that on that note i might pass you over to
00:39:40.000
andrew green from the abc oh i love it you're gonna take my nicotine it's dangerous
00:39:46.760
good afternoon tucker a prescription for nicotine okay i'm i missed that segment this morning it's
00:39:54.360
shocking you should watch it it's the dumbest thing i've ever seen on television
00:39:57.180
um i do want to ask about a country you haven't mentioned today and that's china but before that i
00:40:06.640
wanted your response to the former vice president mike pence who has tweeted in the past hour or so that
00:40:13.900
the assange developments are a a miscarriage of justice by the biden administration
00:40:20.700
and that assange endangered the lives of our troops can i just apologize for something that i said and
00:40:29.240
i and i and it's my fault when i ascribe sort of all badness to the biden administration that's
00:40:35.000
actually not true you know the worst things that happen in our capital city are a bipartisan effort
00:40:39.280
and they are that's just a fact and so i don't want to be partisan and claim it's all the democrats
00:40:44.080
fault it's absolutely not on the worst things that are happening in america immigration and
00:40:48.760
pointless wars and covid policy it was both parties guys like mike pence aligning with guys
00:40:54.400
well joe biden's not a person anymore but the people around around joe biden and you know the
00:41:01.920
truth is you want to the actual i won't be boorish but mike pompeo was trump's cia director and it
00:41:08.080
emerged and it's factual that as cia director when assange was locked in the ecuadoran embassy for
00:41:13.900
however many seven years or something um that he plotted to murder him and assange had never been
00:41:20.540
charged with any crime in the united states at all in under our system and yours you can't just
00:41:25.420
murder people because they embarrass you so assange leaked cia secrets and pompeo was director of cia
00:41:31.120
plotted to murder him that's a fact and the remarkable thing is that no one arrested mike
00:41:36.120
pompeo he's still walking free he's a guy who plotted a murder he's a federal bureaucrat in a
00:41:43.080
democracy federal bureaucrats people just like appointed to a job as a political favor can't just
00:41:48.120
kill other people they don't like that's not allowed speaking of russia and yet in my this is aimed
00:41:55.780
at my country people are like no that's totally reasonable like pompeo's an upstanding guy no he's
00:42:00.360
a criminal he's a criminal and he tried to murder the guy who exposed his crimes it's super simple
00:42:05.320
it's what the mafia used to do it's why they won every jury trial killed two jurors the others acquit
00:42:09.360
and he tried to do that and it blows my mind and i think i think mike pence is a sad weak man but i
00:42:16.620
think that's an incredibly shameful tweet i read it and i was enraged by it and i'm just sorry that i
00:42:21.060
didn't describe the problem in greater detail previously
00:42:23.820
i'll get on to china now uh you may or may not be aware of a strategic partnership australia is
00:42:43.620
involved with with your country and the united kingdom called orcas where we will get nuclear
00:42:50.040
powered submarines can i get your assessment of that and it was largely in response to china
00:42:55.880
do you think china poses a threat here i think that um
00:43:00.160
you know i first of all i think it's very complicated but i think the overview is this china
00:43:05.780
has 1.4 billion people and not enough resources or land australia has 26 million people and
00:43:12.700
a sparsely populated continent that is brimming overflowing with resources that countries with
00:43:20.920
expanding economies need and i don't know how expensive your politicians are i'm guessing not
00:43:25.380
very so i don't think it'd be too much of a lift for china to just buy them all and i assume they
00:43:31.900
already are doing that i mean obviously they are doing that and they're doing that in my country too
00:43:35.180
they bought the current president's son um so i'm not mad at china for that well they did they
00:43:41.600
bought hunter biden i mean that's the whole story and um and it's proven okay so i'm not mad at china
00:43:47.240
about that just for the record i'm not particularly anti-china um i don't want to live in china it's not
00:43:52.440
my system uh at all and i find a lot of parts of the culture repugnant on the other hand i see china
00:43:57.760
in china a country acting in its own interest so i'm not mad about that i'm mad about the countries
00:44:02.640
like my own and possibly yours that allow themselves to be taken advantage of that's the truly shameful
00:44:07.480
thing so i don't hate again i just don't hate china you know i see a rapidly growing country
00:44:13.060
that will do whatever it can to help itself and if it crushes people in the way it will okay so that
00:44:20.500
that's pretty reasonable that's kind of a you know time-tested model your job is not to be crushed
00:44:25.760
and so i'd be very very very concerned about i don't think you face an imminent invasion or anything
00:44:30.120
um i do think that the concerns about china just the the size differential the resource question
00:44:38.740
population these are the fears that have pushed generations of australian governments into a
00:44:44.300
counterproductive alliance with the united states and great britain i think the view here is that the
00:44:50.440
u.s will rescue us if we ever really have a problem and i don't think that's true i'm sorry to say that
00:44:56.500
and i and i'm just saying that is i just don't think it's true and i think you're unwise for
00:45:00.920
believing it's true and i think a lot of people on taiwan thought that was true it turns out not to
00:45:04.880
be true um i think a lot of pashtuns in afghanistan thought that was true a lot of montagnards in
00:45:10.320
vietnam thought that was true you know a lot of christian iraqis thought that was true and all
00:45:14.480
them are the hard way that it's not true that in the end countries act in their own interest and in a
00:45:19.020
democratic system leadership changes every four or eight years with different views expressing you know
00:45:24.980
evolved opinions from the public so no democratic country can be longitudinally reliable as a
00:45:31.600
partner simply because its government changes so often that's just a fact it's not attacking i'm
00:45:35.560
not attacking the united states i'm not attacking you i'm just saying if you think that allowing
00:45:40.200
the u.s government to stage you know foreign troops on your soil they didn't beat you in a war
00:45:45.900
did they then why do they have foreign troops here that's i mean i'm sorry i know i'm offending
00:45:49.640
everybody it's just a fact and i don't know if that's like a huge part of your economy but like
00:45:53.680
rule one in my country is we don't have foreign troops on our soil because we're a sovereign
00:45:56.440
country and i don't understand why all these countries allow it i mean i love the united
00:46:00.480
states i'm glad you know that we're we've got the whip hand i guess but i just i don't think any
00:46:05.540
country should put up with that no you can't have soldiers in my country go away you know what i mean
00:46:10.680
like we can be friends but having troops on my soil suggests not a friendship but a master slave
00:46:16.100
relationship and i'm just not into it at all and i don't think you should be into it either
00:46:20.260
thanks tucker one final question from the press gallery uh cat wong from aap
00:46:27.880
hi tucker thank you so much for your address today um so you talked a little bit about immigration and
00:46:35.700
in the past you've talked about how uh white australians americans europeans are being replaced
00:46:41.020
by non-white immigrants in what is often referred to as the great replacement theory this is the same
00:46:46.300
have i said that whites are being replaced well i don't i don't think i said that well it's been
00:46:52.220
mentioned on your show 4 000 times and really when did i say that on your i said whites are being
00:46:58.180
replaced you have said that before really yeah i i would challenge you to cite that because i'm
00:47:02.720
pretty sure i haven't said that i said i said native born americans have are being replaced including
00:47:07.100
blacks native born americans native born americans americans who like black americans have been
00:47:12.060
african americans have been in the united states for in many cases their families over 400 years
00:47:16.080
and their concerns are every bit as real and valid and alive to me as the concerns of white people
00:47:21.780
whose families have been there 400 years so i i've never said that whites are being replaced
00:47:25.080
not one time and you can't say that i'm sure um we just met but when our relationship starts with
00:47:31.960
a lie it makes it tough to be friends so let's let's pull that back i'm happy to explain what i do
00:47:36.540
think well you actually can't say it because i didn't say it and i don't believe it and i'm telling
00:47:41.200
you that to your face so why don't you just accept me at face value my concern is that the people who
00:47:45.760
are born in the country are the main responsibility of its leaders and as noted earlier when those
00:47:50.640
leaders shift their concern from the people whose responsibility it is to take care of
00:47:54.840
to people around the world to put their priorities above that of their own citizens that's immoral
00:47:59.120
and they are being replaced in my country people who are born in the united states
00:48:02.840
and the birth rate tells the whole story they are not at replacement rate and so the u.s population
00:48:08.100
is growing because we're importing people from other countries and my view is that happy people
00:48:12.360
have children and a functioning economy allows them to do that and we don't have that and so you
00:48:17.380
need to fix the economy and fix the culture and make it so that people who want to have kids can
00:48:22.500
you don't just go for the quick sugar fix of importing new people like that's my position
00:48:28.380
and if you think that's racist that's your problem i never called you racist
00:48:32.840
but of course you but of course you are suggesting and i must say one of the reasons people don't
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like people like you in the media is that you never say exactly what you mean your slurs are all
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by implication and you're about to tell me the great replacement theory is racist or anti-semitic
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whatever i i've said what i've said to you right now like a hundred times in public i hope to if i live
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long enough to say it a hundred more times i think it's completely honest and real not racist or scary
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it's factually true it's not a theory it's a fact and you're the whole point of your question
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was to be like you're a scary racist well i haven't my response is no i'm not okay well
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how about no more lying in your questions and then i'll answer it okay well um this is the same
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theory or as you say idea that has inspired the new york buffalo shooting where 11 black americans
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two white americans were killed it's also inspired it's not first of all it's inspired the worst
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the one of the worst australian how do they get people this stupid in the media i guess it doesn't
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pay well look i i'm sorry i've lived among people like you for too long and i i don't mean to i don't
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mean to call you call you stupid maybe you're just pretending to be but i've never i'm totally against
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violence i'm totally against the war in ukraine for example which doubtless you support and like all
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dutiful liberals support more carnage i don't i hate mass shootings actually nothing i said what does it
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mean to inspire something my views are not bigoted against any group they're honest they're factual
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that's not hate that's reality and my views derive from my deep concern for americans actually americans
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aren't having kids because they can't afford to and nobody in charge cares and so that's my position
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that doesn't inspire mass shootings how dare you try to tie me to some lunatic who murdered people
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how dare you actually and in fact i mean do you know what i mean i'd be like you know hitler wore
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those shoes a lot of people are saying that you're like hitler can you explain those shoes hitler wore
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exactly the same shoes and you're like i've got nothing to do with hitler that's how i feel about
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your absurd disingenuous question right so therefore you support gun control what i thought it could
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get dumber but it did no i don't support disarming law-abiding people so they can't defend themselves
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so the government has a monopoly on violence i don't think so first of all in my country that's illegal
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as you know but moreover it should be illegal in every country a sovereign person has the right to
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defend himself and his family period and that said i'm totally opposed to harming anyone anyone have
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you been calling are you concerned about the war in ukraine and the countless innocents being
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murdered there every single day i doubt you are probably putin bad i am i'm a christian i hate
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violence i hate mass shootings i have guns at home and often on my person when i'm in the united states
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i'm proud to say because i want to defend myself and those i love against violence that's the point
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i'm not perpetrating crimes i'm not shooting strangers i'm defending what i love
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and if you're against that i guess i would ask why why would you be against that
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well so you don't think you harbor any kind of responsibility for these hate crimes
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i'm sorry i'm trying to be charitable i'm trying to be charitable
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i was like maybe you're just pretending to be dumb now i don't think it's an act
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tucker thank you uh for taking those questions i'm sure you enjoyed uh actually i loved it i just feel
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sorry i mean because i got here and the country's so unbelievably beautiful and the people are so
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cheerful and funny and cool and smart i'm like your media's got to be better than ours it can't
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just be a bunch of castrated robots reading questions from the boss
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and then it turns out it's exactly the same maybe even a tiny bit dumber
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i'll repeat the essence of your question you can i can i can hear
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concerned and i don't understand like i guess i do understand why the institutional republican
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party in washington hasn't done more to secure elections we have this problem of electronic
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voting machines which are not more efficient they don't produce more precise answers than
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written ballots and they don't get us the tally quicker than written ballots so the question is
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why do we have them okay that's one area but the much more significant fact i would say is that the
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way americans vote was changed completely using the pretext of covid and the idea was that americans
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were so sick with this killer virus that emerged from a pangolin in a wet market they were selling
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mammals in a seafood market for some reason in wuhan they were so incapacitated they couldn't
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actually make it to the polls and so they needed to have their ballots anonymously picked up in these
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drop boxes without using voter id and then nothing with voter fraud at all it was purely a medical
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response well now covid is of course still around hasn't gone anywhere once fauci created it it's
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going to be here forever but we're not worried about covid anymore for some reason and but the
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voting changes remain in place and it's very clear to me that the point of them was to abet voter fraud
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obviously and i don't think that you okay that's fine there's voter fraud around the world but you
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can't simultaneously claim that you're here to defend democracy and abet voter fraud at the same time
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because voter fraud undermines democracy very obviously more than anything else right if people
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can't trust election outcomes you don't have a democracy and americans can and i'm very distressed
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about it and i don't really know but there seems to be no appetite to do anything about it i mean one
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of the things you know and i won't go on this last thing i'll say but the question of voter id is not a
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question in most civilized countries france for example you don't have an id you can't vote
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because how do we know who you are and we take elections seriously even in france primitive stinky
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france takes elections so much more seriously than we do it's it's shameful to me as an american
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and so but we were told you can't do that because african americans just don't have ids
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really is there evidence for that so in my country you can't do anything without a government id
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you can't cash a check you can't have a bank account you can't buy a pack of cigarettes you can't
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check into a hotel you can't get on an airplane you can't get on a greyhound bus you can't do anything
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without a government issued id of course you can't drive a car and so some enterprising
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independent journalists went out and tried to get the numbers on this and it turns out
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nobody doesn't have a government id if you don't have a government id in the united states that means
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you can have no contact with government you get nothing from government you don't exist in the eyes
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of the government without a government id so the adult population of americans of any color who don't
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have government-issued ids is like approximately zero okay it's like someone in a nursing home
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and yet nobody in the media noted this and to this day we don't have voter id laws in state after
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state because it's considered racist and it's yet another example of the way that ruthless people
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with i think evil intent leverage the inherent decency of the citizens of our country to get their way
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if they said we're just going to commit voter fraud and if you don't like it we're going to shoot you
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the people of the united states would rise up as one and put them down but instead they say you're
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a bad person if you ask questions you're a racist well no decent person wants to be a racist including
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me that's awful i think god created every person with identical moral value identical we are all
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creations that's my view so racism is like abhorrent to me so i don't want to be called racist and now
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there's anyone else in my in my sweet country because americans are really decent people so that claim
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right there is enough to shut down the opposition sufficient to roll over it and that is exactly
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what's happened and i and i hope we're at a point where we just stop taking them seriously these are
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people who don't care about the meaning of words who will accuse you of abetting a mass shooting
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because you think your country has too many illegal aliens like it's freaking insane so obviously they
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don't really mean it they don't really care they just want you to be quiet because you're inconvenient
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and my strong advice to you is don't be quiet because if you're quiet i mean anyone anyone who
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would force you and your children to take the covid vax long after it became clear it was neither safe
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nor effective anyone who would do that i mean what wouldn't they do to you honestly like they've shown
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who they are as far as i'm concerned thank you tucker amazing thank you thank you so much thank you sir
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