The Tucker Carlson Show - Tucker on the Devastating Cost of War and What It Means for American Politics With Saagar Enjeti

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00:00:30.000 So in just a second, we're going to talk to Sagar and Jetty, who's one of the smartest and most honest analysts of American politics.

00:00:40.820 We think about the effect of the war in Iran here in the U.S. on our politics, on our economy, on our life.

00:00:48.660 But first, just a couple of quick things, which is no matter what you think of this war, you've got to be rooting for the United States, your country, and particularly for the people fighting this war.

00:00:58.480 It's a cliche to say it, but it's true.

00:01:00.000 They are the best people.

00:01:01.540 This country produces people who voluntarily joined to defend the United States, who are often put to bad use and badly treated by our political class.

00:01:09.580 But that doesn't make them bad.

00:01:10.860 They are great.

00:01:11.420 And you've got to be rooting for them, for us collectively, and saying prayers both for the country and for the people fighting on its behalf and in its name, our troops.

00:01:21.640 That is real.

00:01:22.040 The second thing concerns the show that we did two days ago about the efforts to rebuild the third temple in Jerusalem and on at some length about this and why, at its core, for some of the people fighting in this conflict in the United States and Israel and Iran, this is a religious conflict.

00:01:42.320 And that we should be aware of the effects of that long term.

00:01:47.340 Religious conflicts are not typically resolved quickly.

00:01:50.720 They can go on generationally.

00:01:52.100 They can go on a thousand years.

00:01:53.280 In fact, they're still ongoing for over a thousand years in some cases.

00:01:56.280 So it's a big deal to have a religious war.

00:01:58.620 In some ways, this may turn out to be a religious war.

00:02:01.080 In others, it's just inherently a religious war.

00:02:02.780 So you should know, and at the center of that conflict is this thing called the third temple, which does not yet exist, but some people would like to rebuild.

00:02:10.620 So we did a whole show on this, seemed important and true.

00:02:14.400 And in the course of that show, we described patches that some soldiers in the Israeli military, the IDF, are wearing that show an image of a temple, the third temple.

00:02:26.180 And we asked, where did these come from?

00:02:29.320 And it seems like from accounts that we read from those soldiers online, that they got these patches somehow from a group called Chabad.

00:02:37.740 In the United States, it's a global group, but it's headquartered here in New York, in Brooklyn.

00:02:42.420 And we said, and you can check the tape, it was like, Chabad, they seem like really nice people.

00:02:47.060 Met a bunch of people in Chabad over the years.

00:02:49.280 They do a bunch of charitable enterprises.

00:02:52.240 But apparently, these patches came from Chabad.

00:02:54.840 Chabad and Chabad, check their website, is in favor of rebuilding the third temple.

00:02:59.600 And why wouldn't they be?

00:03:01.440 They're religious Jews.

00:03:03.140 And the temple is at the center of Judaism as described in the Torah, what Christians call the Old Testament.

00:03:10.820 And all sacrifices, all public worship takes place in the temple in Jerusalem, built on the foundation stone.

00:03:16.640 And that's where God resides, according to Judaism, to Torah Judaism.

00:03:22.440 And all of that ended in 70 AD, when the Romans, as predicted by Jesus, destroyed the temple.

00:03:29.540 Now, from a Christian perspective, God destroyed the temple.

00:03:32.220 Jesus destroyed the temple and became himself the temple.

00:03:35.400 He replaced the temple with his body.

00:03:37.220 And he says this, you know, I am the temple.

00:03:40.380 So that is the Christian view of the temple.

00:03:42.540 But the Jewish view of the temple is very different.

00:03:46.220 And it's what I just described, which is this is where God lives.

00:03:49.320 So if you're a religious Jew, you want to see the temple rebuilt.

00:03:53.340 And there's no criticism of that.

00:03:55.800 That's a religious perspective, which is internally coherent.

00:04:01.360 Our only point was you should know that this is happening and that U.S. taxpayers are paying for it.

00:04:07.660 And apparently, these patches came from Chabad.

00:04:09.860 That was the that was the kind of sum total of my observations about Chabad.

00:04:14.420 Well, the next morning, which is to say yesterday, wake up and there are all these attacks, you know, Chabad, you're attacking Chabad.

00:04:21.740 You're blaming Chabad for the war.

00:04:24.020 No, didn't really pay too much attention to it.

00:04:28.960 Of course, these are organized by these attacks are part of a propaganda campaign waged by Israel and its proxies here in the United States, who are many, at least online.

00:04:37.500 And the idea was to make this seem like an attack on Chabad, which it wasn't and not intended to be and wasn't not inherently an attack.

00:04:45.840 And then Bill Ackman gets in and says, you have potentially blood on your hands.

00:04:52.660 You're calling for violence.

00:04:54.840 And Bill Ackman is mad at me.

00:04:57.380 I know Bill Ackman because nothing to do with Israel, because I once pointed out that Bill Ackman is a thoroughly mediocre intellect.

00:05:05.160 Bill Ackman is not a genius.

00:05:06.340 And yet Bill Ackman has billions of dollars.

00:05:09.740 And like, how did that happen?

00:05:11.280 That's not the American dream I was told about, that people with very little talent become the richest people in our country.

00:05:17.740 How does that work?

00:05:18.920 What American dream are you living?

00:05:20.880 How did you do that?

00:05:22.080 Same with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:24.020 Guy's like not very bright.

00:05:25.400 It's very obvious from his texts and emails.

00:05:27.320 But he wound up with a billion dollars and his own island.

00:05:31.020 Where did the money come from?

00:05:32.380 How does this economic system work?

00:05:34.320 Actually, can I get in on this?

00:05:36.420 And I made that point about Bill Ackman because anyone who knows Bill Ackman knows, you know, not a genius.

00:05:41.740 Not like a moron or anything, but clearly not a brilliant person at all.

00:05:47.500 And yet he is so rich.

00:05:49.580 So that's his grudge.

00:05:51.620 Understandable.

00:05:52.560 People don't like it when you point that out.

00:05:54.740 No one's ever answered the question, by the way, how did he get rich?

00:05:56.660 But whatever.

00:05:57.220 Anyway, he doesn't.

00:05:57.920 He's mad.

00:05:58.720 And so he accuses me of, you know, stoking violence or something.

00:06:02.660 And I just completely ignore it.

00:06:04.780 But then I get two phone calls from friends of mine, people I know and I've known a long time, who are involved with Chabad, both good guys, and both have kids at Chabad schools.

00:06:17.060 And the first calls and says, you know, people are really upset that you're calling for violence against Chabad.

00:06:25.240 And I said, well, I'm not calling for violence against anybody, including Chabad.

00:06:32.860 And I would never do that, ever.

00:06:34.700 I totally reject that.

00:06:36.360 And so that didn't happen.

00:06:38.780 And he said, well, it would be very helpful if you would issue a statement disavowing violence.

00:06:44.420 And I said, well, gosh, I mean, I've done like 100 shows on that.

00:06:47.200 I hope my life is an ongoing disavowal of violence against innocence.

00:06:52.000 And I will continue to say that because I sincerely mean it from the bottom of my heart.

00:06:56.220 It's my religion.

00:06:57.060 So, yes, I mean it.

00:06:57.980 And then just to be kind of mean, I said, I will issue a statement disavowing violence against innocence in tandem with Chabad's statement disavowing violence against innocence.

00:07:09.240 Knowing, of course, Chabad does not disavow violence against innocence, of course, Gaza.

00:07:13.200 And they can't because they don't believe that.

00:07:16.680 I think, you know, I would be surprised if Chabad issued a statement disavowing all violence against all innocence.

00:07:23.480 And, of course, if they do, I will, you know, join them for dinner to celebrate because that way I will praise them for doing that.

00:07:28.860 And anyone who does that will get praise from me, heartfelt.

00:07:31.900 But I doubt they're going to do that.

00:07:33.800 And then I get a call from another friend of mine, like an actual friend of mine saying,

00:07:37.840 I don't mean to bother you, but I've got kids and they're closing the school because if your calls for violence,

00:07:43.200 and I thought, oh, my gosh, now you're now I'm upset because I don't want to add at all,

00:07:50.640 even inadvertently to an environment where people are afraid or feel like they're going to get hurt.

00:07:56.580 And so I guess what I would say is, of course, I'm totally opposed to violence against innocence again.

00:08:03.280 But moreover, this is the product of the war that is underway now

00:08:11.340 and evidence of the point that this is fundamentally a religious war whose effects are already being felt here,

00:08:19.720 which is to say groups are in fear of other groups.

00:08:24.200 American groups are in fear of each other.

00:08:26.220 And that is just absolutely a tragedy.

00:08:28.120 And we should all oppose that.

00:08:30.100 And at the center of it are the most innocent of all, which are kids who are being told by adults

00:08:36.720 that they could be killed for who they are.

00:08:42.140 Now, think about that for a second.

00:08:44.020 Think about a PR campaign or a propaganda campaign designed to make people terrified for their lives,

00:08:51.540 which is what the Israeli campaign is, telling Americans that they could be killed,

00:08:57.400 that anti-Semitism in the United States is so terrible, being ginned up by people like me and other people online,

00:09:03.640 that they could be killed.

00:09:05.060 Imagine that's not true at all.

00:09:09.160 But imagine being so unscrupulous that you would terrify kids in order to silence criticism

00:09:16.200 of your territorial expansion campaign, which is exactly what this is.

00:09:22.040 Israel wants to be bigger.

00:09:23.000 They want their regional rivals out of the way.

00:09:25.020 They want to weaken the United States, get us out of the Middle East,

00:09:27.320 and they want to weaken Western Europe, which they just hate for whatever reason.

00:09:31.740 They truly hate Western Europe, which is one of the reasons the Israeli government

00:09:35.380 has helped move migrants into Europe to weaken and destroy it.

00:09:39.100 What is that?

00:09:39.720 I don't really know the answer, but it's demonstrable.

00:09:42.300 They hate Western Europe.

00:09:43.020 And so whatever their bizarre agenda is, in order to stop criticism of it,

00:09:50.540 they're telling Americans, including children, that they could be killed

00:09:55.500 to get them on side with their program.

00:09:59.080 That is super dark.

00:10:01.340 That is evil, completely evil.

00:10:03.840 And imagine, moreover, playing along with it with your own kids,

00:10:06.720 telling your own kids that people hate them and will always hate them

00:10:10.640 no matter what they do because of how they were born.

00:10:12.800 That is not good for kids.

00:10:14.420 And I say that not just as an American, but as a father of many kids.

00:10:18.200 Like, that's the worst thing you could ever do to children.

00:10:20.020 Who's doing that?

00:10:20.640 A lot of people are doing that.

00:10:22.660 And it doesn't produce happy people.

00:10:24.480 It produces unbalanced people like Mark Levin, whose mother clearly told him that.

00:10:29.700 That is not a fair description of the country we live in.

00:10:32.840 We live in a, still now, for all its flaws, a very decent country

00:10:36.020 where people accept each other's differences.

00:10:39.700 And there is an organized campaign underway this moment to foment religious hatred in this country.

00:10:45.640 Hatred of American for American on the basis of religious identity.

00:10:48.740 And that is totally wrong morally, but more than that, it's completely destructive.

00:10:57.140 If you want to wreck the United States, and some people do want to wreck the United States,

00:11:01.320 weaken the United States, people behind this war want to do that.

00:11:05.100 Again, that's one of the reasons we're having this war is to weaken the United States,

00:11:08.560 both economically and destroy its social cohesion.

00:11:13.280 You would do that.

00:11:14.260 And that's why they are doing that.

00:11:15.660 And so I would just hope that all Americans can resist that,

00:11:20.000 deal with each other as individuals, as fellow Americans, as citizens,

00:11:22.880 and whatever you do, leave the kids out of it.

00:11:26.020 Don't use kids for your political ends.

00:11:29.380 That is totally wrong.

00:11:30.600 And the rest of us should call it out when we see it.

00:11:32.340 So I hope everyone connected to Habad understands that the last thing I would ever do

00:11:40.600 is call for violence against them because they're part of a religious group.

00:11:45.600 No, that's the opposite of what I'm saying.

00:11:49.160 And so with that, our friend Sagar and Jetty.

00:11:51.940 Sagar, thank you very much for doing this.

00:11:53.580 I've been thinking of you all week.

00:11:55.480 Let's start just with the overview.

00:11:57.040 What have you learned since this war began?

00:11:59.120 Well, Tucker, unfortunately, and I'm very sad to say this,

00:12:02.880 is that our very sovereignty is in question right now.

00:12:05.500 The Secretary of State made perhaps one of the most remarkable statements of my entire life

00:12:09.920 and perhaps in modern history when he declared unequivocally that we are involved in this war

00:12:15.100 as a result of the either inability or the adherence to an Israeli strike

00:12:19.520 that was going to happen on Tehran.

00:12:21.380 This reveals a lot of different things about our government, our structure.

00:12:24.900 We were either unable to exert pressure on Israel to avoid such a war.

00:12:29.280 We either acquiesced to it and both are terrifying in their result because we are,

00:12:33.940 of course, the global superpower in Israel is a client state.

00:12:37.120 I've also learned, very unfortunately, having spent my entire career trying to repudiate the

00:12:43.580 lessons of the Iraq War, of Syria and of Libya, of an overwhelming propaganda effort

00:12:49.460 on both sides, both parties, the mainstream media, but still, unfortunately, very alive

00:12:54.400 and well, it seems, in the Republican Party and in the White House, cheering on regime change,

00:12:59.120 demands of unconditional surrender made to the Iranians just this morning,

00:13:03.960 the endorsement of a Kurdish civil war campaign.

00:13:07.100 It really does feel as if things are accelerating,

00:13:10.160 even with the perspectives in modern history of literally 5, 10, even 15 years ago,

00:13:16.900 to learn that these are exactly the moves that we should not be making.

00:13:20.800 And so I'm really terrified right now to be saying that our sovereignty itself

00:13:24.240 remains in question at the behest here of Israel, our very own government,

00:13:28.540 which seems complicit and is, of course, involved in these very strikes.

00:13:32.460 And then watching the way that this is all going,

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00:14:44.620 I unfortunately agree with that, and you could feel it in the days leading up to it.

00:14:49.100 I saw Trump three times in the month before, and it was obvious to me that he didn't want to do it.

00:14:55.980 It was, I think, obvious in every TV appearance that he made.

00:15:00.500 He never made the case that this was going to help us in any way.

00:15:04.220 He did make the case that Iran shouldn't have the bomb.

00:15:06.140 Got it.

00:15:06.820 It was never about that, of course.

00:15:08.800 I don't think he wanted a nuclear-armed Iran.

00:15:10.920 I don't think he likes Iran.

00:15:12.040 I think he's been told they tried to kill him.

00:15:13.740 I think that's all real.

00:15:15.080 But he understood the risks, and it was obvious to me from talking to him that he didn't want to do this,

00:15:20.420 but that he kind of couldn't get out of it.

00:15:22.300 And the American president just has less room to maneuver than voters imagine he does.

00:15:29.460 And it's just a horrible burden on every president since John F. Kennedy.

00:15:33.920 You can feel it, and I think we should all go back and look at the tapes at pivotal moments,

00:15:37.800 and, like, these guys just don't have the latitude they thought they did,

00:15:41.340 and they're bumping up against immovable objects and pressure that just can't be resisted.

00:15:46.080 Well, it's tragic if that's the case.

00:15:48.060 I will say, I mean, we can't take away the individual action of our commander-in-chief

00:15:53.320 and of the people who are in power.

00:15:55.240 And let's be honest here, Tucker, promises were made.

00:15:58.600 You and I sat in many rooms over the years where we were explicitly told

00:16:02.180 that this is the one thing that we are going to avoid, war with Iran.

00:16:06.160 And I do want to make very clear that it's not just about war with Iran.

00:16:09.200 This is a regime-change war with Iran.

00:16:11.520 This is a regional war with Iran, which has now engulfed our Gulf allies.

00:16:15.820 This is now a war which is depleting our interceptor stockpile,

00:16:19.660 calling in the very alliance structure of the United States.

00:16:23.060 We are potentially pulling interceptors away from South Korea,

00:16:26.580 which we, of course, do 400 percent more trade with than Israel.

00:16:30.960 I mean, take the combined GCC bilateral trade,

00:16:33.780 the Gulf Arab nations with the United States compared to Israel.

00:16:37.240 And you have Gulf officials who are furious going on national television

00:16:40.800 saying that they are being deprioritized.

00:16:43.300 Their very ministers, at this moment you and I are speaking,

00:16:46.260 are talking about withdrawing their economic investments in our companies,

00:16:50.200 trillions of dollars at stake.

00:16:51.920 And all of that belies the very people who I think you talked about,

00:16:55.540 the American soldier.

00:16:56.820 And I've been thinking all week about Declan Cody.

00:16:59.160 He was 20 years old and he perished in that attack on our base in Kuwait.

00:17:04.880 He was born four to five years after 9-11.

00:17:07.460 I'm literally in this business to trying to make sure

00:17:10.080 that something like that doesn't happen.

00:17:12.360 It breaks me to watch somebody who is just that young,

00:17:15.560 who had their entire life ahead of them,

00:17:17.160 perish in another Middle Eastern war.

00:17:19.340 Not to mention including one of the servicemen,

00:17:21.640 who was a mother of children.

00:17:23.400 She had, you know, had hobbies.

00:17:24.900 She had a husband.

00:17:25.640 And I have to say, you know, I cannot let our individual leaders off the hook here.

00:17:30.520 Secretary Hegseth recently made a statement at the Pentagon podium

00:17:34.240 where he said and chastised the national media

00:17:37.220 for not celebrating more of the, quote,

00:17:39.220 wins that were happening in Iran

00:17:41.340 and spending too much time on the dead American soldiers

00:17:44.360 trying to highlight that as if it's some sort of political prop.

00:17:47.380 And part of the reason I'm here today

00:17:48.780 and part of the reason I do my show every day

00:17:50.560 is just to say it's not 2003.

00:17:52.340 I will not be blackmailed, silenced, or told

00:17:54.980 that we cannot mourn our dead,

00:17:56.880 that we cannot support our troops without supporting the war.

00:18:00.820 This is over.

00:18:01.780 We are absolutely declaring an end to this.

00:18:04.040 I thought, I think you thought,

00:18:05.340 many others thought that this was an end

00:18:06.900 whenever it came to the Trump election in 2024.

00:18:10.840 And it is tragic actually to have to be able to sit here

00:18:13.320 and talk to you about this situation today.

00:18:14.860 I mean, the vote for Trump, which I cast,

00:18:18.400 and I try not to, I don't vote that much,

00:18:20.720 to be totally honest.

00:18:21.540 You never have because I'm always traveling.

00:18:23.460 But I voted absentee for Trump and was happy to do it.

00:18:27.360 And I think a lot of people who don't normally vote did the same.

00:18:30.660 And they did it in part as a vote for sovereignty.

00:18:34.160 That's what we're, that's the debate is,

00:18:36.000 does the United States have a right to make decisions

00:18:39.200 in its own interest, in the interest of its own people?

00:18:41.600 Does your vote actually matter?

00:18:44.140 Are you voting for BB every time,

00:18:46.180 whether you want to or not?

00:18:47.120 Are you actually voting for an American

00:18:48.380 who might help your country?

00:18:50.720 And I think we kind of answered that question.

00:18:53.920 Like there's, if Trump isn't going to save us

00:18:57.100 from a system that kind of hates us,

00:19:00.620 then what's the option?

00:19:02.940 Right, and you look, I mean, I'm pleading.

00:19:04.660 I know that many people in the administration

00:19:06.620 are going to listen.

00:19:07.640 So let me just lay out the case already

00:19:09.340 of the damage that has been wrought

00:19:10.780 on the United States.

00:19:12.000 Our alliance structure in the Gulf Arab nations

00:19:14.320 is in question.

00:19:15.240 We have multiple bases which have been hit.

00:19:17.420 These are allies which pump billions of dollars

00:19:20.420 into our economy.

00:19:21.940 Their very lifeblood is at threat right now.

00:19:24.840 Force majeure being declared Qatar.

00:19:27.140 LNG production has significantly declined.

00:19:29.840 The very morning that you and I are taping this,

00:19:31.600 we just got a very troubling jobs report,

00:19:33.760 92,000 losses in the economy.

00:19:36.660 We actually saw unemployment tick up

00:19:38.680 for native-born Americans.

00:19:40.200 That is the very opposite

00:19:41.980 of what Donald Trump wanted on the campaign trail.

00:19:44.900 An oil analyst that I deeply respect,

00:19:46.900 I spoke to him this morning.

00:19:48.280 If the Straits of Hormuz remain closed,

00:19:50.120 he projects oil at $200 per barrel.

00:19:53.540 This is a disaster, a full-fledged disaster.

00:19:56.840 The very day you and I are speaking,

00:19:58.260 again, gas prices are at the highest price

00:20:00.460 in Donald Trump's entire presidency now so far.

00:20:04.080 So you can see very clearly for the individual pocketbooks

00:20:07.640 of every American, they will feel the result of this war.

00:20:11.160 And then geopolitically, when you say sovereignty,

00:20:13.620 what is that about?

00:20:14.480 Sovereignty, the questioning of NATO,

00:20:16.660 which Trump and many of his officials talked about.

00:20:18.640 It's not about subsuming our national interests

00:20:20.920 in transnational organizations.

00:20:23.300 But even then, we are watching.

00:20:25.520 If you care so much about NATO,

00:20:27.260 I've been trying to make this point to the neocons,

00:20:29.420 the Ukrainians are already noticing

00:20:31.460 that many of the weapon systems,

00:20:33.320 which would be needed to defend them

00:20:34.860 if they wanted to continue this war,

00:20:36.800 are going to be depleted.

00:20:38.000 And they're not very high on the priority list.

00:20:40.300 I talked about South Korea, about Japan,

00:20:42.500 about our actual economic commits,

00:20:44.700 to real allies, by the way,

00:20:46.220 people who we do a lot of trade with,

00:20:47.800 who love us and we love them.

00:20:49.860 Watch how we are abandoning them.

00:20:51.660 If you care about China

00:20:52.520 and trying to project power in the South China Sea,

00:20:55.040 the interceptor stockpile that we are using right now

00:20:58.020 is a joke compared to what some potential conflict

00:21:00.640 with Taiwan would look like.

00:21:02.440 We're already slowly removing

00:21:04.000 many of those options off the table.

00:21:06.040 We are not stronger as a result of this action.

00:21:09.720 And I do not see an off-ramp currently floated

00:21:12.880 by the president of the United States

00:21:14.640 who is now declaring unconditional surrender.

00:21:17.680 Tucker, you and I, we bonded often over history.

00:21:20.560 Let's remember unconditional surrender

00:21:22.540 and what it takes.

00:21:23.400 It takes the bloody urban conflict

00:21:25.960 to an invasion of Europe and the Battle of Berlin.

00:21:28.960 It takes dropping atomic bombs in Japan,

00:21:32.800 floating hundreds of thousands of American casualties

00:21:35.180 if we needed to invade Japan to occupy it

00:21:38.200 and demand that very policy.

00:21:40.000 It takes the Ulysses S. Grant,

00:21:42.160 who is willing to sacrifice

00:21:43.640 literally hundreds of thousands of casualties

00:21:46.820 for an entire year-long period to get to that point.

00:21:50.600 That's what unconditional surrender means.

00:21:53.000 And that is what the president has been demanding.

00:21:55.480 And I want every American to realize that.

00:21:57.860 Unconditional surrender, if that is the true demand,

00:21:59.920 and it is now.

00:22:00.800 He said, President Trump said,

00:22:02.040 make Iran great again this morning.

00:22:04.580 That can only be enforced with a ocean of American blood.

00:22:10.380 And that is not something in our national interest.

00:22:14.420 We are walking every single day closer to that possibility.

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00:24:29.540 Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter,

00:24:35.760 if they want.

00:24:36.800 And everyone knows that.

00:24:38.180 And that has been,

00:24:39.100 if there's one consistent lesson of history,

00:24:41.020 it means unconditional surrender means

00:24:43.680 foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter.

00:24:47.680 Everyone can feel that.

00:24:49.100 That's like the most atavistic instinct there is.

00:24:51.580 And so to avoid that,

00:24:53.160 people will do anything.

00:24:54.860 And so that's why it requires that level of force

00:24:57.960 to get a population subdued

00:25:00.320 to the point of unconditional surrender.

00:25:02.000 That's why.

00:25:03.040 And so in this case,

00:25:04.300 of course, we don't have the ground force necessary.

00:25:07.820 I don't think Americans would voluntarily participate in it.

00:25:10.080 I just don't think we can do that.

00:25:11.720 It would require weapons of mass destruction.

00:25:13.820 It would require presumably nuclear weapons

00:25:16.180 in order to do that.

00:25:17.380 And let's not lie to ourselves.

00:25:19.340 We're moving toward that.

00:25:20.520 Yes, and that is another important point

00:25:24.860 that I think you have been highlighting here

00:25:26.740 is if you look at the decision matrix

00:25:28.800 where everything is about upping the ante,

00:25:31.240 a good friend of mine actually pointed out

00:25:33.060 many of the Vietnam aspects

00:25:34.600 that were already starting to climb.

00:25:36.860 So you watch very quickly.

00:25:38.480 We thought we could just decapitate the Ayatollah

00:25:41.100 and they would crawl over and make a deal.

00:25:43.140 It didn't happen.

00:25:43.880 So then what happens?

00:25:44.640 We have to start bombing the police stations,

00:25:46.840 the border guards to be able to make sure

00:25:48.600 that these Kurdish CIA-backed groups

00:25:50.820 can make an incursion,

00:25:52.420 that they can start their civil war

00:25:53.960 in part of the country,

00:25:54.780 distract the security force.

00:25:56.620 At every step,

00:25:57.820 when the Iranians reject an American overture,

00:26:00.480 the natural choice of the American president

00:26:02.860 will be escalation and bombing.

00:26:05.200 Already, I mean, watching statements

00:26:07.000 coming out of the Pentagon, it's shocking.

00:26:09.100 It's like military assistance command Tehran.

00:26:12.120 They're bragging.

00:26:12.840 I mean, Tucker, again, as an American

00:26:15.020 who really was radicalized by the Iraq war,

00:26:17.580 to see the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

00:26:20.760 about how we've already dropped

00:26:22.140 double the munitions of shock and awe,

00:26:24.120 I actually felt like I was going insane

00:26:26.100 because we have learned nothing.

00:26:28.260 Already, they're talking about,

00:26:29.200 we've struck 2,000 different targets

00:26:32.180 across the country.

00:26:33.640 Look, you don't have to believe me.

00:26:35.020 Go and look at footage from the ground.

00:26:36.720 It doesn't look like civil war has erupted,

00:26:38.500 civil society or any of that.

00:26:40.260 The Iranian regime remains relatively in power

00:26:43.420 as of right now.

00:26:44.380 And so when you, again, up the ante,

00:26:46.700 which President Trump did

00:26:47.660 with his demand for unconditional surrender,

00:26:49.760 remember, they told us

00:26:50.680 it was just about nuclear weapons,

00:26:52.240 then it was about ballistic missiles,

00:26:53.680 then it was about projecting terrorism

00:26:55.720 or something in the region,

00:26:57.380 which is, you know, nebulous and undefinable,

00:26:59.760 designed for that reason, by the way,

00:27:01.180 so that we would have to be able to go to war.

00:27:03.160 Well, then we now get to unconditional surrender,

00:27:05.840 which is only enforceable with massive weapons,

00:27:09.280 nuclear weapons in this case.

00:27:10.880 And now we have two nuclear-on powers,

00:27:12.740 Israel and the United States,

00:27:14.580 which are engaged in this conflict.

00:27:16.500 And the Israeli part of this equation

00:27:17.980 is really important.

00:27:19.280 America actually does have an interest

00:27:21.180 in a stable Iran because of the Straits of Hormuz,

00:27:24.040 which, by the way,

00:27:25.040 our empire is now having to ensure oil tankers

00:27:28.120 moving through the Straits of Hormuz

00:27:29.340 and potentially put all of our Navy sailors at risk

00:27:32.200 to escort ships through.

00:27:33.600 Does it even make any sense?

00:27:34.800 Did you know that almost 80% of the oil

00:27:36.720 moving through the Straits of Hormuz goes to Asia?

00:27:38.840 50% of it goes to China.

00:27:40.760 So we're insuring and paying for Chinese oil

00:27:42.680 for the Straits of Hormuz.

00:27:44.200 But Israel doesn't care about any of that.

00:27:46.500 There's even a quote from an Israeli analyst

00:27:48.300 in the Financial Times who said,

00:27:49.920 look, if they change the regime, great.

00:27:51.680 If they have a civil war, great.

00:27:53.260 If anything happens, great.

00:27:54.820 As long as they can no longer pose a regional threat

00:27:57.560 to the nation of Israel,

00:27:59.560 then the Israelis are happy.

00:28:01.160 We have divergent interests, actually,

00:28:03.520 in what happens in the country of Iran.

00:28:05.600 But this president has fees them with Bibi Netanyahu.

00:28:09.400 And by doing that, he has sold us truly into Pandora's box.

00:28:14.340 And now, even extricating from this situation,

00:28:17.280 if the president just declared victory today,

00:28:19.460 which, by the way, Mr. President, please do so,

00:28:22.240 it will be the best thing, smartest decision

00:28:24.540 that you have ever made in your entire presidency.

00:28:26.880 Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:28:28.380 Even if he did, think about all the fundamental questions

00:28:30.920 of U.S. alliances that were already in the minds

00:28:33.520 of these Gulf leaders of Japan, of South Korea, of Taiwan,

00:28:37.300 any potential U.S. ally around the globe.

00:28:39.660 Hundreds of billions have already basically been put

00:28:42.560 to the test.

00:28:43.720 The war is costing internal Pentagon projection

00:28:46.200 $1 billion per day every single time that this goes on.

00:28:51.460 And extraordinary measures are already being taken.

00:28:54.500 I just read this morning,

00:28:55.660 the Russians are providing intelligence to the Iranians

00:28:58.300 to help them target U.S. bases.

00:29:00.440 Not like we can complain, can we?

00:29:02.120 That's how the Pentagon runs the entire Ukraine war.

00:29:04.900 As we learned from the discord leaks,

00:29:06.580 we do their battle damage assessments,

00:29:08.140 we give them the coordinates,

00:29:09.280 and we tell them exactly where to shoot.

00:29:11.380 So we are entangled in a deep conflict,

00:29:14.200 which has immense risk for the global energy markets,

00:29:17.600 for our own soldiers, for the region.

00:29:20.080 We've talked also about sovereignty.

00:29:21.720 Let's talk about the refugee crisis.

00:29:23.540 My favorite question that you asked Ted Cruz,

00:29:26.540 he didn't even know the population of Iran,

00:29:28.520 92 million, by the way, 92 million,

00:29:32.940 one-third almost the size of the United States of America,

00:29:36.960 destabilize a country which,

00:29:39.120 if we give them the Gaza treatment,

00:29:40.900 which again looks currently potentially likely,

00:29:43.300 and especially when the Israelis are involved,

00:29:45.320 what does that mean?

00:29:46.260 Mass immiseration, mass refugee flows

00:29:49.620 all across Middle East, across Europe.

00:29:53.240 Turkey is already, I mean, you have Naftali Bennett,

00:29:55.680 the former Israeli prime minister, already saying,

00:29:58.940 oh, actually Turkey is already now a threat to Israel.

00:30:02.100 A friend of mine predicted the dissolution of NATO

00:30:04.820 will not come from America.

00:30:06.280 It will come from an Israeli action on Turkey.

00:30:08.980 And I hate to say it, it looks even more likely today.

00:30:12.140 Turkey, again, actually a good ally.

00:30:14.180 We have a good base there.

00:30:15.420 We have a decades-long relationship.

00:30:17.540 All of that apparently is being thrown out

00:30:19.580 as long as it's in Israel's national security interests.

00:30:22.340 So if you game this out a little bit,

00:30:24.640 what that means,

00:30:25.600 because countries under threat flee to safety,

00:30:27.980 just like people do.

00:30:29.860 If our allies in the Gulf,

00:30:32.500 which are real allies, actually,

00:30:34.900 like we get, as you just said,

00:30:36.540 we get massive benefit from our alliances

00:30:39.380 with these countries.

00:30:40.800 But if they feel unprotected by the United States,

00:30:42.620 and it seems like they do,

00:30:44.240 because they are,

00:30:45.340 they're going to go somewhere else.

00:30:47.040 It's the same for Turkey.

00:30:49.000 So I'm not for NATO

00:30:50.540 because I don't think it's fully under U.S. control.

00:30:52.860 On the other hand,

00:30:54.440 the option is powerful states,

00:30:58.280 emerging states like Turkey,

00:30:59.580 which is not getting less powerful with time,

00:31:02.160 will align with the BRICS, of course.

00:31:05.100 And so-

00:31:06.140 So the net effect of this

00:31:07.780 is to weaken the United States,

00:31:09.500 to get us to pull out of the Middle East,

00:31:10.740 which Israel wants,

00:31:12.200 and to weaken the Gulf states,

00:31:14.460 and to destroy Europe,

00:31:15.340 which Israel hates for some reason,

00:31:17.520 has always hated Europe.

00:31:18.320 So, I mean,

00:31:19.340 maybe there are obvious reasons.

00:31:20.380 I don't know.

00:31:20.800 But they have abetted the decline of Europe

00:31:22.920 very aggressively.

00:31:24.460 Now you're seeing Iranian refugees

00:31:26.820 massing in France

00:31:28.720 to cross the English Channel,

00:31:30.160 this is this morning,

00:31:31.300 to Great Britain.

00:31:32.180 So it's already happening.

00:31:33.740 The migrant flow is already going into Europe.

00:31:36.340 Like, tell me that wasn't the point

00:31:38.120 from the start.

00:31:39.420 Of course it was.

00:31:40.540 Exactly.

00:31:41.060 And this is the,

00:31:41.840 this is,

00:31:42.500 and this is why I find it so galling

00:31:44.200 to actually have this administration

00:31:45.480 be the ones

00:31:46.540 who are perpetuating this policy.

00:31:47.960 We understood

00:31:49.120 that the global effects

00:31:50.600 of this refugee crisis

00:31:51.900 inspired, you know,

00:31:54.020 things like Brexit,

00:31:55.040 things like declarations of sovereignty,

00:31:57.220 the Donald Trump election

00:31:58.180 in 2016.

00:31:59.460 This was genuinely a rejection of that.

00:32:03.380 And then to watch

00:32:04.220 the Syria-Libya playbook

00:32:06.100 currently being played out.

00:32:07.920 I mean, you know,

00:32:08.640 unfortunately I find

00:32:09.740 many people know Syria and Libya

00:32:11.320 were a disaster,

00:32:12.080 but they can't

00:32:12.660 eventually explain why.

00:32:14.500 So let's take some time.

00:32:15.640 What was it?

00:32:16.200 There was a so-called protest,

00:32:17.740 you know,

00:32:18.140 against Bashar al-Assad.

00:32:20.060 That protest movement

00:32:21.160 quickly became subsumed

00:32:22.780 by radical jihadists.

00:32:24.180 The United States,

00:32:25.080 for no reason,

00:32:26.140 basically decided

00:32:26.940 that it was in our interest

00:32:27.720 to remove Bashar al-Assad,

00:32:29.500 massively fund

00:32:30.360 all of these jihadists

00:32:31.520 in the region.

00:32:32.400 We gave them weapons,

00:32:33.380 we gave them time,

00:32:34.300 money, support, of course.

00:32:36.200 And what happened?

00:32:37.000 It created a gigantic civil war,

00:32:39.420 as you always talk about.

00:32:40.780 It destroyed

00:32:41.320 the Christian community,

00:32:42.660 some of the less radical

00:32:43.960 elements of that society.

00:32:45.420 And now 14 years later,

00:32:46.840 a literal al-Qaeda terrorist

00:32:48.560 is their president.

00:32:49.720 The only reason

00:32:50.280 that we don't talk about him

00:32:51.280 that way

00:32:51.640 is because he's a friend of Israel

00:32:53.240 and allowed portions

00:32:54.180 of his country

00:32:54.780 to basically be annexed by them.

00:32:57.180 That's what the Israelis want.

00:32:58.700 They want,

00:32:59.640 and they had no problem

00:33:00.660 with seeing an erupt state

00:33:03.060 emerge in Iran.

00:33:04.400 But that's not in our interest.

00:33:06.020 That's not in Europe's interest.

00:33:07.060 That's not in our allies' interest.

00:33:08.900 It is massively destabilizing.

00:33:11.200 Same in Libya.

00:33:12.100 What was the promise?

00:33:13.340 No fly zone for Gaddafi.

00:33:14.980 He unfortunately

00:33:15.540 could literally get sodomized

00:33:17.140 on national television,

00:33:18.680 on a video,

00:33:19.600 which deeply inspired

00:33:21.180 Kim Jong-un

00:33:22.120 and many other regimes

00:33:23.700 that wanted to race

00:33:24.460 to a nuclear weapon.

00:33:25.560 I've been told directly

00:33:26.620 that whenever we asked

00:33:28.020 the United States,

00:33:28.740 or when we asked

00:33:29.500 in those bilateral meetings

00:33:30.680 with Kim Jong-un,

00:33:32.040 we said,

00:33:32.400 why don't you just give up

00:33:33.140 your nuclear weapons?

00:33:33.920 He said,

00:33:34.260 look what happened to Gaddafi.

00:33:35.500 He's never going to do it.

00:33:36.620 And he shouldn't.

00:33:37.240 In fact,

00:33:37.660 his entire policy

00:33:39.120 has been vindicated.

00:33:40.320 So that's another element of this.

00:33:41.740 Let's think about

00:33:42.360 nuclear proliferation.

00:33:43.980 Since the outbreak

00:33:44.860 of the Iran war,

00:33:46.120 Poland has now declared

00:33:47.260 their intent

00:33:47.920 to try to become

00:33:48.840 a nuclear power,

00:33:49.860 a nuclear armed state.

00:33:51.000 France said

00:33:51.520 they are going to increase

00:33:52.620 the amount of nuclear weapons

00:33:54.360 that they have

00:33:55.200 under production

00:33:56.000 and they are no longer

00:33:57.200 going to publicize them.

00:33:59.160 South Korea and Japan

00:34:00.280 are going to be having

00:34:01.360 some very serious discussions

00:34:03.260 around this.

00:34:04.180 So in an ostensible war

00:34:05.420 over a nuclear program,

00:34:06.840 we've actually probably inspired

00:34:08.800 more nuclear proliferation

00:34:10.560 than even the war in Iraq,

00:34:12.360 which I did not think

00:34:13.520 was ever possible.

00:34:14.720 So to watch this all

00:34:16.200 continue in this spiral,

00:34:17.960 none of it works

00:34:19.160 to our benefit.

00:34:20.100 And you and I

00:34:20.740 are not NATO defenders.

00:34:22.680 You know,

00:34:22.840 we've talked often about

00:34:24.080 we talked often

00:34:25.860 about the folly

00:34:26.520 of expanding NATO eastward.

00:34:28.240 However,

00:34:28.720 we can recognize

00:34:29.740 we have fundamental interests

00:34:31.060 in a few select group countries.

00:34:33.200 The problem with NATO

00:34:34.040 is that it got far away

00:34:35.560 from our core security interests.

00:34:37.740 But now countries

00:34:38.680 in the core security umbrella

00:34:40.520 themselves

00:34:41.040 are questioning

00:34:42.180 their fundamental relationship

00:34:43.920 with the United States.

00:34:45.560 You know,

00:34:45.740 the eastern Baltic region

00:34:47.080 is not one

00:34:47.920 that keeps me up at night.

00:34:48.900 But Japan, South Korea,

00:34:51.580 you know,

00:34:51.860 Japan and South Korea,

00:34:53.480 the GCC countries,

00:34:54.840 which look,

00:34:55.420 you know,

00:34:55.560 I'm not saying

00:34:55.900 we need a massive basis

00:34:56.980 or any of that in the region,

00:34:58.400 but we need oil.

00:34:59.260 We need natural gas

00:35:00.060 to keep flowing nicely.

00:35:01.520 We need some of that money

00:35:02.460 to be coming back here.

00:35:03.700 And that's obviously

00:35:04.760 very beneficial

00:35:05.420 to our companies.

00:35:06.960 Those things

00:35:07.800 being called into question

00:35:09.000 erodes the foundation

00:35:10.780 of the American empire,

00:35:12.240 which actually does serve

00:35:14.000 the United States.

00:35:15.080 So what we're watching

00:35:15.900 is like the far flung parts,

00:35:17.940 which always break

00:35:19.280 an empire's back,

00:35:20.400 actually call into question

00:35:21.700 the security core commitments,

00:35:23.840 our national security commitments

00:35:25.400 at a very base level,

00:35:27.300 which is very,

00:35:28.620 very weakening

00:35:29.360 to the United States.

00:35:30.880 People seem to be

00:35:32.140 more inflamed,

00:35:33.280 not just emotionally,

00:35:34.220 but physically

00:35:34.720 and more tired than ever.

00:35:36.560 And food is part of the reason.

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00:35:40.760 but not good for you.

00:35:41.800 For most of human history,

00:35:42.780 people ate actual food,

00:35:44.560 stuff that your body recognizes.

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00:36:53.120 I notice it in the middle

00:36:54.220 of all this chaos.

00:36:55.340 Well, there are a lot of things

00:36:55.940 I don't notice

00:36:56.540 because chaos is in part

00:36:58.000 used to,

00:36:59.280 and it always is a cover

00:37:00.400 for all kinds of other things

00:37:01.780 that you don't find out

00:37:02.460 for like three years later.

00:37:04.340 You know,

00:37:04.720 like two days after 9-11,

00:37:05.980 something dramatic happened

00:37:06.860 and you never heard about it.

00:37:08.640 Right?

00:37:09.180 So,

00:37:09.700 bad people become more powerful

00:37:11.560 in chaos

00:37:12.220 and they do bad things

00:37:13.340 and you don't even notice.

00:37:14.800 But one of the bad things

00:37:15.580 that's happening

00:37:16.100 is Israel is taking over

00:37:17.440 southern Lebanon

00:37:18.120 and,

00:37:20.060 you know,

00:37:21.420 more aggressively

00:37:22.460 oppressing the West Bank

00:37:24.140 and making moves

00:37:25.020 in Syria.

00:37:26.120 What,

00:37:26.680 how can Israel

00:37:28.000 spare

00:37:28.720 the

00:37:29.900 military capacity,

00:37:32.140 the men's in armament

00:37:33.100 in the middle of this

00:37:34.220 massive war with Iran

00:37:35.620 to take over

00:37:36.360 southern Lebanon

00:37:37.120 and why are we

00:37:37.880 allowing that?

00:37:39.180 Yeah,

00:37:39.320 that's a great question.

00:37:40.220 Who do you think

00:37:40.660 sells them the weapons

00:37:41.760 and staffs their intelligence

00:37:43.220 and basically supports

00:37:44.980 their entire nation,

00:37:46.040 state,

00:37:46.260 and military?

00:37:46.860 It's us

00:37:47.320 and that's the reason.

00:37:48.300 They could never

00:37:48.980 have struck Tehran

00:37:49.900 like this on their own

00:37:51.060 by their own admission.

00:37:52.200 That's why they always

00:37:52.980 needed the United States.

00:37:54.280 I mean,

00:37:54.500 Bibi,

00:37:55.060 for once,

00:37:55.740 said the most honest thing

00:37:56.960 of his entire life.

00:37:58.160 It's been my dream

00:37:59.040 to go after Iran

00:38:00.280 for 40 years.

00:38:01.400 40 years,

00:38:02.060 it's been a dream.

00:38:02.740 And so-called,

00:38:03.400 you have Republican senators

00:38:04.560 on our national television

00:38:06.300 with no shame

00:38:07.240 saying that Iran

00:38:08.420 has been an imminent threat

00:38:09.580 to the United States

00:38:10.340 for 40 years.

00:38:11.100 I think they need

00:38:11.600 to go back to school

00:38:12.520 and read the definition

00:38:13.880 of imminent.

00:38:14.980 But at the very least,

00:38:16.280 this propaganda

00:38:16.880 is completely unchecked

00:38:18.740 by our press.

00:38:19.860 It is just accepted.

00:38:21.300 It is currently

00:38:22.020 the party line.

00:38:23.100 But let's get to it.

00:38:23.840 You know what you just

00:38:24.360 talked about there

00:38:25.240 with Lebanon.

00:38:25.960 Again,

00:38:26.320 if you don't read

00:38:27.500 the Israeli press,

00:38:28.800 which in some cases

00:38:29.540 is actually more honest

00:38:30.420 than our own press,

00:38:31.520 ironically.

00:38:32.040 Much more.

00:38:32.360 There is a quote

00:38:33.020 where they say

00:38:34.060 the Israeli minister

00:38:35.760 said,

00:38:36.460 we will turn

00:38:37.200 Dahiya into Gaza.

00:38:39.620 That's basically

00:38:40.120 what he said.

00:38:40.800 We are going to take

00:38:41.800 an area of Beirut

00:38:43.360 and we are going

00:38:44.020 to level it

00:38:44.880 to the ground.

00:38:46.300 That's what he said.

00:38:47.060 That is an open admission

00:38:48.220 from the Israeli ministers.

00:38:49.960 What you can see already

00:38:50.980 with the belligerence

00:38:52.360 in all of these

00:38:53.120 different countries

00:38:53.760 from the strikes

00:38:54.260 in Doha

00:38:54.900 to Syria

00:38:55.960 now to Lebanon

00:38:57.420 is this is about

00:38:58.660 regional hegemony

00:39:00.200 for the state

00:39:00.980 of Israel.

00:39:01.860 I also think

00:39:02.540 that their political

00:39:03.440 popularity

00:39:04.100 dramatically declining

00:39:05.300 in the United States

00:39:06.500 at this time

00:39:07.100 makes it more existential

00:39:08.560 for them than ever.

00:39:10.000 They know

00:39:10.440 that this is literally

00:39:11.280 their last chance

00:39:12.240 to knock off

00:39:13.220 any individual power

00:39:14.600 which dares

00:39:15.380 try to either host

00:39:16.800 different types of groups

00:39:17.980 or have a government

00:39:18.840 which may check them

00:39:20.020 in some way

00:39:20.920 and that's part of why

00:39:22.180 our president's decision

00:39:23.260 to join them

00:39:24.160 is so disappointing

00:39:25.380 because you can see

00:39:26.740 very clearly

00:39:27.500 and no,

00:39:28.280 I think you say this,

00:39:29.440 I often do too,

00:39:30.220 I get it

00:39:30.860 from Israel's perspective

00:39:31.880 but I'm not Israeli

00:39:33.440 but I'm not Israeli

00:39:34.800 my job,

00:39:36.140 our job

00:39:36.780 is to look out

00:39:37.500 for our country

00:39:38.940 and so to see

00:39:39.780 the vast armaments

00:39:41.360 of the United States

00:39:42.280 of America

00:39:42.860 effectively prop up

00:39:44.300 Israeli regional hegemony

00:39:45.540 at the direct expense

00:39:46.960 of our own power projection

00:39:49.140 is shocking

00:39:50.640 so watch very closely

00:39:52.220 what's going to happen

00:39:53.200 with Lebanon

00:39:54.060 you're going to see

00:39:54.900 the mass expansion

00:39:56.200 very likely

00:39:57.060 because of Hezbollah rockets

00:39:59.060 and ballistic missiles

00:40:00.120 which have been shot

00:40:01.180 into Israel

00:40:01.860 that will be the pretext

00:40:02.920 for a full scale

00:40:03.860 you know,

00:40:04.600 basically reduction campaign

00:40:06.660 that's what they

00:40:07.200 like to call it

00:40:08.200 you're going to see

00:40:09.220 very similar actions

00:40:10.540 right now in Gaza

00:40:11.420 and in the West Bank

00:40:12.700 don't forget

00:40:13.400 I know you haven't seen this

00:40:14.600 or I know you've seen this

00:40:15.900 an American citizen

00:40:16.860 was killed in the West Bank

00:40:17.980 very, very recently

00:40:19.460 not that anybody

00:40:20.360 in America cares at all

00:40:21.540 he's from Philadelphia

00:40:22.460 by the way

00:40:23.120 and his own senator

00:40:24.180 won't even stand up for him

00:40:25.720 Senator John Fetterman

00:40:26.600 a Democrat

00:40:27.220 just to show you

00:40:28.020 some of the bipartisanship

00:40:28.940 of this nature

00:40:30.020 that's why it's sickening

00:40:31.080 to watch

00:40:32.220 I mean

00:40:32.820 we've described this before

00:40:35.000 as not a healthy relationship

00:40:36.320 we're so far beyond that

00:40:38.740 we need to wake up

00:40:39.760 and we need to reclaim

00:40:40.720 our sovereignty

00:40:41.560 right now

00:40:42.400 and this has nothing to do

00:40:43.580 with anti-Semitism

00:40:44.900 of course not

00:40:45.660 I mean

00:40:45.880 I just laid out

00:40:47.300 the very strategic case

00:40:49.360 for why individually

00:40:50.360 this is going to hurt you

00:40:51.140 in the short term

00:40:52.360 in your pocketbook

00:40:53.500 in the long term

00:40:54.600 from our geopolitical allies

00:40:56.300 or strategic situation

00:40:57.480 in the region

00:40:58.200 and then across the globe

00:40:59.840 if you care about China

00:41:00.860 chips

00:41:01.240 anything really

00:41:02.140 you're watching the degradation

00:41:03.580 of our ability

00:41:04.780 to project force

00:41:05.920 and that is

00:41:07.000 not only shocking

00:41:08.560 but it is an urgent crisis

00:41:10.840 which unfortunately again

00:41:12.520 you are not going to hear

00:41:13.900 much of this

00:41:14.560 from our mainstream media networks

00:41:16.360 which are just cheering

00:41:17.560 on this war

00:41:18.280 bringing on

00:41:19.300 you know

00:41:19.800 Iranian diaspora

00:41:21.200 Tucker

00:41:21.680 a friend of mine

00:41:22.520 made this joke

00:41:23.100 he said

00:41:23.580 America's the only country

00:41:24.680 in the world

00:41:25.040 where immigrants

00:41:25.540 come here

00:41:26.240 to try and get us

00:41:28.000 to bomb their home country

00:41:29.820 and their family

00:41:30.620 can you

00:41:31.400 what's the sickness

00:41:32.840 of that relationship

00:41:34.680 and I think you know

00:41:36.060 this as well

00:41:36.660 I'll say it

00:41:37.160 you know

00:41:37.340 I'm technically part

00:41:38.200 of the Indian diaspora

00:41:39.040 my parents are from there

00:41:40.020 I'm from Bryan, Texas

00:41:41.380 never ask me

00:41:42.640 what's going on in India

00:41:43.760 please

00:41:44.220 I don't know anything

00:41:45.240 I'm not from there

00:41:46.460 I don't know anything about it

00:41:48.120 I barely know

00:41:49.500 what's going on

00:41:50.040 in my own home country

00:41:51.160 you know

00:41:51.820 it would actually

00:41:52.620 be disgraceful

00:41:53.620 for me to try to speak

00:41:54.620 on behalf of them

00:41:55.900 let them speak

00:41:56.620 for themselves

00:41:57.540 and I can't get over

00:41:59.700 watching

00:42:00.400 I mean the BBC

00:42:01.000 recently had a package

00:42:02.300 where they had on

00:42:03.260 three individuals

00:42:04.420 Iranian

00:42:05.400 who were celebrating

00:42:06.620 the bombing

00:42:07.240 of their home country

00:42:08.140 and my friend

00:42:09.040 Trita Parsi

00:42:09.620 was like

00:42:10.100 I'm sorry

00:42:10.480 this is sickening

00:42:11.300 like

00:42:11.560 look

00:42:12.360 maybe that's one perspective

00:42:13.640 but that's not

00:42:14.580 the only perspective

00:42:15.500 in fact

00:42:15.940 it might be

00:42:16.320 a minority perspective

00:42:17.200 from what we see

00:42:18.200 currently

00:42:18.620 what's happening

00:42:19.480 on the ground

00:42:20.140 in the country

00:42:21.260 so let's not deny

00:42:23.200 the people of Iran

00:42:24.280 their agency

00:42:25.120 since allegedly

00:42:26.380 we're supposed to care

00:42:27.340 about that

00:42:27.860 and their protest movements

00:42:29.240 let's recognize

00:42:30.540 this is a highly heterogeneous

00:42:32.720 this is a massive

00:42:33.580 heterogeneous country

00:42:35.000 with a lot of

00:42:36.140 disparate types of opinions

00:42:37.400 and we can look to

00:42:38.560 history to say

00:42:39.540 that when we demand

00:42:40.420 unconditional surrender

00:42:41.460 again I'm sure

00:42:42.360 you've seen the literature

00:42:43.300 on this

00:42:43.840 what did the

00:42:44.520 unconditional surrender

00:42:45.300 demands do

00:42:45.920 demand do

00:42:47.320 to the German populace

00:42:48.620 even when the Nazi party

00:42:49.800 was massively underwater

00:42:51.560 in terms of its popularity

00:42:52.600 they said

00:42:53.420 we had no choice

00:42:54.520 we must fight to the death

00:42:55.980 of course

00:42:56.420 that's what they declared

00:42:57.200 the Japanese

00:42:57.900 I mean there was a lot

00:42:58.680 of consternation

00:42:59.340 in their society

00:43:00.360 about the way

00:43:00.960 that the war was going

00:43:01.820 once you firebomb Tokyo

00:43:03.180 and you kill 100,000 people

00:43:04.580 in a single night

00:43:05.720 and you say

00:43:06.480 that unconditional surrender

00:43:08.000 and the removal

00:43:08.500 of your emperor

00:43:09.120 is the only thing

00:43:10.060 that we're going to accept

00:43:11.080 well

00:43:11.520 a lot more of those people

00:43:13.120 died over

00:43:14.000 the next several months

00:43:15.720 and so

00:43:16.200 we're probably going to

00:43:17.020 watch that happen now

00:43:18.040 with Iran

00:43:18.820 it's the same dynamic

00:43:19.960 that always plays out

00:43:20.920 and the point of course

00:43:22.140 is to build Israeli empire

00:43:23.460 to replace American empire

00:43:25.200 which is dying

00:43:26.160 hastened by this war

00:43:28.060 with Israeli empire

00:43:29.400 and one thing I noticed

00:43:30.900 I can't contain myself

00:43:32.440 and have to express it

00:43:33.280 but when you say

00:43:33.900 that the Israelis

00:43:34.840 are destroying Beirut

00:43:36.080 which is having been

00:43:37.160 to a lot of places

00:43:37.900 in the world

00:43:38.400 one of the prettiest places

00:43:39.480 on the globe

00:43:40.060 Beirut is just

00:43:40.820 is a marvel

00:43:41.580 it's beautiful

00:43:42.120 it reminds me

00:43:44.000 and it's being destroyed

00:43:45.040 by Israel

00:43:45.600 which is one of the

00:43:46.320 single ugliest countries

00:43:47.540 in the world

00:43:48.580 nothing of beauty

00:43:49.320 has been built there

00:43:49.920 since 1948

00:43:50.640 sorry

00:43:51.200 I've been everywhere

00:43:51.940 in that country

00:43:52.440 and it's true

00:43:52.980 that the nature

00:43:54.560 of this emerging empire

00:43:56.040 is destructive

00:43:57.000 and it always seems

00:43:58.840 like beautiful things

00:43:59.900 wind up being destroyed

00:44:01.300 Europe

00:44:02.040 right

00:44:03.340 Beirut

00:44:04.340 parts of Syria

00:44:06.140 the holy sites

00:44:07.220 I don't

00:44:08.040 parts of Iran

00:44:08.920 are apparently beautiful

00:44:10.440 totally blown up

00:44:11.940 this does seem

00:44:13.400 like

00:44:14.260 a war on beauty

00:44:16.340 as well

00:44:16.960 which next to truth

00:44:18.000 is like

00:44:18.320 this is not

00:44:18.700 an American perspective

00:44:19.440 but it's a Christian perspective

00:44:20.500 and a real perspective

00:44:21.180 it's a global perspective

00:44:22.140 beauty is worth preserving

00:44:23.760 and yet

00:44:25.240 it seems

00:44:25.780 the determined effort

00:44:26.860 of the IDF

00:44:27.980 to destroy beauty

00:44:28.880 and I just want to say that

00:44:29.960 because I really notice it

00:44:31.300 well I mean

00:44:32.540 we watched some of that

00:44:33.320 in Gaza

00:44:33.720 and you don't have to be

00:44:34.620 a Hamas lover

00:44:35.540 to recognize the beauty

00:44:36.720 of some of those churches

00:44:37.800 or of their society

00:44:39.280 of the West Bank

00:44:40.160 which I'm sure

00:44:40.720 that you have seen as well

00:44:42.400 and yeah I've been

00:44:43.400 and spent a lot of my life

00:44:45.140 in a large portion

00:44:46.380 of this region

00:44:47.200 I mean I'm watching

00:44:48.060 my former neighborhood

00:44:49.560 in Doha, Qatar

00:44:50.800 with missiles flying down

00:44:52.660 and by the way

00:44:53.640 I think it was

00:44:55.100 exactly a mile

00:44:56.100 from where I used to live

00:44:57.380 when I was in high school

00:44:58.240 in Doha, Qatar

00:44:59.660 that the Israelis

00:45:00.780 actually struck

00:45:01.480 that Hamas compound

00:45:02.600 and actually even killed

00:45:03.820 a Qatari police officer

00:45:05.600 I can't imagine

00:45:06.600 what some of my

00:45:07.280 you know

00:45:07.740 look this could have been me

00:45:09.100 you know once upon a time

00:45:10.180 I was in a classmate

00:45:11.400 at the American School of Doha

00:45:12.860 it's March

00:45:13.500 so it's just school time

00:45:15.340 there are children

00:45:16.240 American children

00:45:17.240 by the way

00:45:17.760 you know children

00:45:18.300 of oil executives

00:45:19.340 others

00:45:19.740 I was my children

00:45:21.140 child of professors

00:45:22.380 of many American universities

00:45:23.680 which operate there

00:45:24.920 who are now

00:45:25.660 in a panic mode

00:45:26.620 trying to get out

00:45:27.580 of the country

00:45:28.180 as their airports

00:45:29.100 are shut down

00:45:29.980 there are a million plus

00:45:30.940 Americans

00:45:31.340 who live in the region

00:45:32.780 and it has been

00:45:33.680 very short

00:45:34.940 the evacuation

00:45:35.700 notices that went out

00:45:37.620 they clearly

00:45:38.180 were not planning

00:45:39.200 for this

00:45:39.640 and actually

00:45:40.320 that's a major indictment

00:45:41.420 of our current

00:45:42.700 force projection

00:45:43.600 as well

00:45:44.080 is it's pretty clear

00:45:45.520 and Donald Trump

00:45:46.180 said this

00:45:46.660 he said

00:45:47.320 we were surprised

00:45:48.240 by the attacks

00:45:49.120 on the bases

00:45:49.740 which is shocking

00:45:50.780 because I think

00:45:51.500 you knew

00:45:52.000 that was going to happen

00:45:52.860 I knew

00:45:53.560 that was going to happen

00:45:54.820 you only need to read

00:45:56.280 open source

00:45:57.020 and read a little bit

00:45:57.840 of what the Iranians

00:45:58.680 themselves were saying

00:45:59.780 they were like

00:46:00.200 hey here's the plan

00:46:01.380 if this happens

00:46:02.240 this is what we're going to do

00:46:03.860 and he said

00:46:04.560 that they were surprised

00:46:05.400 by that

00:46:05.820 and now a million Americans

00:46:06.780 are stuck

00:46:07.340 the ambassador Mike Huckabee

00:46:08.580 who by the way

00:46:09.120 supposedly cares so much

00:46:10.060 about Americans

00:46:10.900 I saw his guidance

00:46:11.780 for Americans in Israel

00:46:12.700 trying to get out

00:46:13.400 he was like

00:46:14.200 take a bus to the Sinai

00:46:15.720 and hopefully you can

00:46:16.720 catch a flight

00:46:17.580 from there

00:46:18.300 that's insane

00:46:19.240 it's like a five or six hour

00:46:20.780 bus ride

00:46:21.460 which they're not even

00:46:22.540 really arranging

00:46:23.260 and that they would take

00:46:24.840 to the Sinai Peninsula

00:46:25.940 and then I even read a story

00:46:27.260 of a pregnant woman

00:46:28.040 who had to

00:46:28.720 who did all of that

00:46:30.400 you know

00:46:30.580 imagine the stress

00:46:31.560 of all while this is happening

00:46:32.700 to take five six flights

00:46:33.760 to be able to come home

00:46:34.960 these are our people

00:46:36.020 these are the people

00:46:36.800 that we're supposed

00:46:37.440 to care about

00:46:38.380 and so

00:46:38.820 it's just so tragic

00:46:40.100 you know

00:46:40.460 thinking you're talking

00:46:41.040 about wall and beauty

00:46:42.120 what you're trying

00:46:42.900 to recognize

00:46:43.420 and paint for a picture

00:46:44.480 not everybody

00:46:45.700 is as privileged as us

00:46:46.760 to be able

00:46:47.240 to go all across the world

00:46:48.700 is to say

00:46:49.500 these are not

00:46:50.300 you know

00:46:50.920 evil incarnate

00:46:52.800 gray black white photos

00:46:54.380 these are real places

00:46:55.500 with real people

00:46:56.660 they have different opinions

00:46:58.140 some of them hate us

00:46:59.360 some of them love us

00:47:00.320 they have very disparate histories

00:47:02.440 and identities

00:47:03.980 religions

00:47:04.800 they're beautiful

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00:48:49.560 well i mean

00:48:53.340 anyone who's been

00:48:54.420 in the middle east

00:48:55.240 can tell you

00:48:56.300 i mean they're

00:48:56.920 you know

00:48:57.160 they're great places

00:48:57.860 and they're terrible places

00:48:59.060 but some of these places

00:49:00.120 amman jordan

00:49:00.840 it's one of the great places

00:49:01.720 in the world

00:49:02.180 it's gorgeous

00:49:02.560 it's unbelievable

00:49:03.680 doha at night

00:49:05.220 i mean

00:49:05.840 you know

00:49:06.640 i don't want to go on about it

00:49:07.940 but let me just say

00:49:08.440 i mean it's

00:49:08.800 this is

00:49:09.320 you know

00:49:10.280 great things are being destroyed

00:49:12.020 and

00:49:12.840 and this is

00:49:13.860 i was thinking this morning

00:49:14.720 kind of the last

00:49:15.640 last gift

00:49:16.700 of the boomers

00:49:17.700 you know

00:49:18.960 wars

00:49:19.880 that are

00:49:21.420 planned

00:49:22.380 by that same generation

00:49:24.280 which really did

00:49:25.080 kind of

00:49:25.640 diminish the united states

00:49:27.020 in

00:49:27.320 in the space

00:49:28.300 of just 50 years

00:49:29.260 i mean they really took so much

00:49:30.800 and gave so little

00:49:31.720 i

00:49:32.700 i think this is the kind of war

00:49:34.900 you could only have

00:49:36.060 between people of advanced age

00:49:37.720 i i was thinking that

00:49:39.260 i totally agree with you

00:49:41.080 and you know

00:49:41.520 let's even take some of the talking points

00:49:43.040 you're older than me

00:49:43.720 so this might resonate with you

00:49:44.880 but everybody says

00:49:45.540 this has been happening

00:49:46.160 for 47 years

00:49:47.240 remember 1979

00:49:48.620 i'm 33 years old

00:49:50.640 my mother was 15 in 1979

00:49:53.160 okay

00:49:53.960 so 1979

00:49:55.100 to me

00:49:56.260 is a history book

00:49:57.240 yeah

00:49:57.500 1979

00:49:57.920 is argo

00:49:59.280 the movie

00:49:59.900 that's about as close as i've got

00:50:01.280 to the iranian revolution

00:50:02.720 i'm much closer

00:50:04.020 to the destruction of my country

00:50:05.940 at the hands of the neocons

00:50:07.620 of iraq

00:50:08.580 and afghanistan

00:50:09.640 i watched my cohort

00:50:11.280 being unable to buy

00:50:12.820 houses

00:50:13.700 i watch relative people

00:50:15.560 who are younger

00:50:16.320 who are terrified

00:50:17.400 of ai

00:50:18.040 i have friends

00:50:19.280 who are having their

00:50:20.500 electricity bills go up

00:50:21.800 as a result of data centers

00:50:23.720 i've watched my own city

00:50:25.720 you know washington dc

00:50:26.900 which you and i have spent

00:50:27.740 a lot of time in

00:50:28.780 go downhill

00:50:29.160 downhill every single year

00:50:31.100 that i've lived in it

00:50:32.260 which is shocking

00:50:32.960 right

00:50:33.520 and to watch

00:50:34.460 literally

00:50:35.040 that happen

00:50:36.020 and then meanwhile

00:50:36.700 i get on planes

00:50:37.860 and i go visit

00:50:38.940 tokyo

00:50:39.760 or doha

00:50:40.900 or singapore

00:50:42.140 or bangalore

00:50:43.820 any of these places

00:50:44.880 which had a lot of problems

00:50:45.980 and still do

00:50:46.780 but have gotten a lot nicer

00:50:48.120 whereas where i'm living

00:50:49.240 continues to tick down

00:50:50.660 so 1979

00:50:51.680 i can appreciate as an american

00:50:53.500 especially for a lot of the boomers

00:50:55.140 i get it

00:50:55.720 it must have been so horrible

00:50:57.580 and shocking

00:50:58.160 and you know

00:50:59.120 to be fair

00:50:59.680 i also think that the way

00:51:01.060 the media covered that

00:51:02.040 at the time

00:51:02.740 they acted like the revolution

00:51:04.040 just happened

00:51:04.700 out of nowhere

00:51:05.620 they don't have enough

00:51:06.420 of the know-how

00:51:06.880 to go back to

00:51:07.640 most of that

00:51:08.340 and the political revolution

00:51:09.620 and the cia

00:51:10.420 and much of the meddling

00:51:11.620 that we also did

00:51:12.680 in that country

00:51:13.560 not to mention the disaster

00:51:14.760 of jimmy carter

00:51:15.820 but i empathize with them

00:51:17.280 for their hatred

00:51:18.240 let's say of iran

00:51:19.400 and their knowledge

00:51:20.080 or you know

00:51:20.780 or looking at it as an enemy

00:51:22.060 but i would also ask them

00:51:23.400 to give us

00:51:24.460 the same empathy

00:51:25.460 is to look at us

00:51:26.800 in the country

00:51:27.340 that we have grown up in

00:51:28.780 and they're now raising children

00:51:30.040 in my case

00:51:30.880 and are saying

00:51:31.720 i am looking at iran

00:51:33.600 as an explicit

00:51:34.740 not only distraction

00:51:36.020 but coming directly

00:51:37.320 at the expense

00:51:38.020 of a lot of the problems

00:51:39.180 which i care a lot about

00:51:40.780 on behalf of my family

00:51:42.220 on behalf of the people

00:51:43.420 who are around me

00:51:44.280 and for them

00:51:45.120 i don't see any benefit

00:51:46.220 from this

00:51:46.740 well that's for sure

00:51:48.080 so now i want to ask you

00:51:50.160 about the effect

00:51:51.040 on american politics

00:51:53.060 i mean it feels like

00:51:54.140 in the last week

00:51:55.240 you know

00:51:56.380 well as you said

00:51:57.660 the secretary of state

00:51:58.780 said something out loud

00:51:59.820 that the day before

00:52:01.140 would have been denounced

00:52:02.020 as an anti-semitic

00:52:02.900 conspiracy theory

00:52:03.780 israel made us do it

00:52:04.940 he said that

00:52:05.820 and it's true

00:52:07.040 i can i can verify that

00:52:09.020 that's true

00:52:09.800 and now everyone's seen it

00:52:12.440 and so like

00:52:13.460 where do we go

00:52:14.180 that the kidnapper

00:52:15.180 has pulled off his mask

00:52:16.280 so what does that mean

00:52:17.520 now that we know

00:52:18.420 we're not going back from here

00:52:19.260 we are not going back

00:52:20.320 that's for sure

00:52:20.960 republicans are in a tough spot

00:52:22.760 so let's look at the evolution

00:52:24.120 of just the democratic party

00:52:25.300 in the last 48 72 hours

00:52:27.620 i'm watching ruben gallego

00:52:29.320 mark warner

00:52:30.600 who is like a national security democrat

00:52:32.800 whatever that means

00:52:34.200 who are like

00:52:34.600 he's a cia cutout

00:52:35.720 yeah

00:52:35.980 literally right

00:52:37.220 like as you and i know

00:52:38.280 and he's talking about

00:52:39.400 how we're you know

00:52:40.100 the dog

00:52:40.680 the tail is wagging the dog

00:52:42.460 and we can't be acting

00:52:43.620 on behalf of israel

00:52:44.720 gavin newsom

00:52:45.740 the governor of california

00:52:47.640 who months ago

00:52:49.220 twisted himself into a knot

00:52:50.860 to avoid saying the word

00:52:52.520 a pack

00:52:53.160 and couldn't even talk about

00:52:54.880 their influence on politics

00:52:56.400 just said he understands

00:52:57.980 why people would call israel

00:52:59.140 an apartheid state

00:53:00.120 and how we may have to question

00:53:02.100 our relationship

00:53:03.100 with that country

00:53:03.880 so that the dam has broken

00:53:05.860 on the democratic side

00:53:07.060 wait can i just ask you to pause

00:53:08.000 what are the chance

00:53:09.140 i've watched all of this

00:53:10.380 uh with my jaw open

00:53:11.780 what are the chances

00:53:13.100 gavin newsom

00:53:14.320 called the adl

00:53:15.460 and a pack

00:53:16.360 first before he said that

00:53:18.260 and said hey guys

00:53:18.860 just want to give you a heads up

00:53:20.000 and i'm gonna

00:53:21.480 performatively attack you

00:53:23.560 almost certainly 100%

00:53:26.100 but the attack still matters

00:53:27.600 and right you're right

00:53:28.400 even adl

00:53:29.080 or a pack

00:53:29.940 would even allow that to happen

00:53:31.240 even if that were the case

00:53:32.000 is still shocking

00:53:32.780 i mean even a pack

00:53:33.980 has made changes

00:53:34.760 in a lot of their funding

00:53:35.760 where they're allowing funding

00:53:37.280 to go to some democrats

00:53:39.000 even who are at least

00:53:40.480 on the surface level

00:53:41.560 who are opposed to them

00:53:42.640 but if that's the overton window

00:53:44.100 that we all now live in

00:53:45.580 as a country

00:53:46.140 we can literally never go back

00:53:48.220 to even the 2024 status quo

00:53:50.740 yes

00:53:51.060 but this is where

00:53:52.040 the republican party

00:53:53.300 is very

00:53:54.320 look i think they're

00:53:55.140 in a very tough spot

00:53:56.240 imagine the amount

00:53:57.640 of messaging

00:53:58.320 let's say

00:53:59.040 that's going to start

00:53:59.780 to come out

00:54:00.300 about how trump

00:54:00.960 doesn't care about

00:54:01.560 your gas price

00:54:02.200 i mean it's not

00:54:02.720 messaging is literally true

00:54:03.780 the president said

00:54:04.860 basically you know

00:54:05.800 high prices

00:54:06.400 is so be it

00:54:07.620 and even in terms

00:54:08.460 of dead americans

00:54:09.220 it said something

00:54:10.120 along the lines of

00:54:11.080 you know

00:54:11.600 it happens

00:54:12.180 there are casualties

00:54:12.840 in war

00:54:13.640 these comments

00:54:14.180 are going to be

00:54:14.580 wall to wall

00:54:15.140 i remember 06 vividly

00:54:17.100 it was actually

00:54:17.760 the first election

00:54:18.460 which i really paid

00:54:19.740 very close attention to

00:54:21.020 and lived through

00:54:21.900 i'm sure you do

00:54:22.680 as well

00:54:23.340 just remember

00:54:23.920 how the democrats

00:54:24.740 destroyed the george w bush

00:54:26.540 party

00:54:27.120 and then let's look

00:54:27.960 at the structural

00:54:28.440 problems that we

00:54:29.080 already have

00:54:29.480 we have the economic

00:54:30.140 problems i already

00:54:30.860 mentioned the bad

00:54:31.620 jobs report

00:54:32.240 as of this morning

00:54:33.220 potential high gas

00:54:34.220 prices just like back

00:54:35.360 in the mid 2000s

00:54:36.860 you're going

00:54:37.560 and then you have

00:54:38.520 people senators

00:54:39.600 like ted cruz

00:54:40.620 on your show

00:54:41.220 mike huckabee

00:54:42.100 members of our

00:54:42.960 government

00:54:43.340 who are talking

00:54:44.060 about the third

00:54:45.000 temple

00:54:45.440 i mean that's insane

00:54:46.820 you're like you're

00:54:47.460 talking about third

00:54:48.000 temple and red heifers

00:54:49.060 i'm out here trying

00:54:49.940 to pay my bills man

00:54:51.120 and then you can just

00:54:52.220 watch how this is

00:54:53.620 going to erode

00:54:54.680 the entire republican

00:54:56.480 party

00:54:57.180 especially whenever

00:54:58.160 it comes to

00:54:58.820 turnout

00:54:59.400 now but i do also

00:55:00.220 want to be clear

00:55:00.720 and you lived through

00:55:01.580 this as well

00:55:02.080 the bush

00:55:02.700 i grew up in bush

00:55:03.420 country

00:55:03.780 the bush

00:55:04.480 dead enders

00:55:05.420 they stuck with him

00:55:06.340 with 5000 american

00:55:07.560 troops dead

00:55:08.120 so there are a lot

00:55:09.020 of republicans

00:55:09.600 who will stick with

00:55:10.300 president trump

00:55:11.080 throughout this war

00:55:11.780 they revere

00:55:12.300 and they trust him

00:55:13.000 and that's their right

00:55:13.780 they can do so

00:55:14.760 but here's what i

00:55:15.520 always try to say

00:55:16.240 republicans are not

00:55:17.220 the reason that

00:55:17.680 donald trump won

00:55:18.360 the 2024 election

00:55:19.400 he won with a

00:55:20.680 wide coalition of

00:55:21.780 young people

00:55:22.420 of latino voters

00:55:23.780 of a lot of

00:55:24.740 independents

00:55:25.260 and those people

00:55:26.160 i can attest to

00:55:27.000 you this

00:55:27.400 100 percent

00:55:28.740 because a lot of

00:55:29.440 them are watching

00:55:29.920 this show

00:55:30.420 my show

00:55:31.120 all the time

00:55:31.900 they have turned

00:55:32.880 on this president

00:55:33.640 they are furious

00:55:34.960 about not just

00:55:35.960 this war with iran

00:55:36.760 but a lot of

00:55:37.340 different things

00:55:37.860 up to this point

00:55:39.000 and at this point

00:55:40.200 i mean we are

00:55:40.940 going into a

00:55:41.660 territory where

00:55:42.720 it's not just about

00:55:43.880 the war with iran

00:55:44.720 it's about how many

00:55:45.740 clips i've played

00:55:46.460 some of them

00:55:46.840 on my own show

00:55:47.800 of members of

00:55:48.540 this cabinet

00:55:49.120 members of

00:55:50.140 this administration

00:55:50.860 who spoke

00:55:51.760 explicitly about

00:55:52.940 why war with iran

00:55:54.060 is not in our

00:55:55.320 interest

00:55:55.760 and it's one of

00:55:56.760 those things that's

00:55:57.340 like the epstein

00:55:57.940 files

00:55:58.360 what people see

00:55:59.800 inside of them

00:56:00.440 is when you cover

00:56:01.320 that up

00:56:01.760 i can't trust you

00:56:02.760 about anything

00:56:03.240 else

00:56:03.580 and same with

00:56:04.380 war and peace

00:56:04.900 i mean we're

00:56:05.300 literally playing

00:56:05.880 with people's

00:56:06.740 lives

00:56:07.060 and you've spoken

00:56:07.940 very eloquently

00:56:08.660 about the reason

00:56:09.660 washington loves

00:56:10.460 this is because

00:56:11.320 they believe that

00:56:12.200 they are god

00:56:12.920 is that the power

00:56:13.800 of god for life

00:56:14.780 and death

00:56:15.220 in upon them

00:56:16.420 makes them feel

00:56:17.440 bigger from whatever

00:56:18.300 sad life you know

00:56:19.520 that they came from

00:56:20.320 and they've been

00:56:20.980 subsumed by that

00:56:21.900 uh now with power

00:56:23.220 and they are going

00:56:24.280 to get a rude

00:56:25.260 reminder of what

00:56:26.080 that looks like

00:56:26.700 in the midterm

00:56:27.500 elections if things

00:56:28.700 go in if things

00:56:29.900 don't go in a

00:56:30.500 radically different

00:56:32.220 elect a radically

00:56:33.500 different direction

00:56:34.360 we're watching that

00:56:34.880 play out in texas

00:56:35.680 we're watching that

00:56:36.460 play out all across

00:56:37.340 the country with

00:56:38.220 democratic turnout

00:56:39.020 and look you know

00:56:40.680 even in a self

00:56:41.400 interested perspective

00:56:42.260 for a lot of these

00:56:43.320 trump officials you

00:56:44.440 know if you don't

00:56:44.840 want millions of

00:56:45.620 dollars in lugo bills

00:56:46.640 and house subpoenas

00:56:47.540 for the rest of your

00:56:48.620 life

00:56:49.520 rest of your

00:56:49.940 natural life

00:56:50.800 let me be clear

00:56:51.760 you might want to

00:56:52.520 start to do

00:56:53.220 something very

00:56:54.220 different than what

00:56:54.840 you're doing right

00:56:55.360 now

00:56:55.740 so as i said

00:56:58.140 um i flipped to dc

00:56:59.960 three times in the

00:57:01.120 last month to try to

00:57:02.000 convince trump not to

00:57:02.860 this didn't work

00:57:03.560 it happens i'm looking

00:57:05.300 at this and i'm

00:57:05.980 thinking boy this is

00:57:07.080 not going to get

00:57:07.580 better so then i

00:57:08.340 think i'll fly up

00:57:09.820 again and ask him

00:57:11.180 i mean i don't know

00:57:12.800 if anyone else doing

00:57:13.420 so i'm gonna try

00:57:14.120 uh to just declare

00:57:15.880 victory and go home

00:57:17.340 like you killed an

00:57:18.020 86 year old cleric

00:57:19.000 let's just call that

00:57:19.680 a win and and

00:57:20.500 then pull back

00:57:21.160 and so then

00:57:22.340 meantime he he

00:57:23.600 got convinced to

00:57:24.380 denounce me

00:57:25.220 okay i don't care

00:57:27.320 i'm gonna fly up

00:57:27.820 anyway and see him

00:57:28.660 right even though

00:57:29.520 he's like denouncing

00:57:30.300 me so i call over

00:57:32.580 there to see you

00:57:33.460 know call someone

00:57:33.940 who knows him to

00:57:34.680 see i've said i'm

00:57:35.180 just gonna fly up

00:57:35.780 anyway and and

00:57:37.160 tell him this because

00:57:38.000 i think it's so

00:57:38.500 important and the

00:57:39.220 person says don't

00:57:40.200 bother because he's

00:57:42.800 being shown polling

00:57:43.900 polling that this war

00:57:45.440 is like a 90-10 win

00:57:47.000 for him and i said

00:57:48.920 i don't know where

00:57:49.780 that polling is

00:57:50.640 coming from it's

00:57:51.480 like i you know i

00:57:52.080 guess you could make

00:57:52.620 any kind of poll and

00:57:53.660 it's he's watching

00:57:54.640 fox news which is

00:57:55.900 telling him the same

00:57:56.520 thing and he's

00:57:57.440 getting fake polling

00:57:59.080 i guess they're only

00:58:00.000 polling sean hannity's

00:58:01.100 viewers or something

00:58:02.120 and so i'm not sure

00:58:04.280 that there's a sense

00:58:05.340 as if this was

00:58:06.120 yesterday because i

00:58:06.980 was getting so

00:58:07.600 agitated and worried

00:58:08.780 i don't think that

00:58:10.840 there's a sense that

00:58:11.820 this is unpopular

00:58:12.800 like i think there's

00:58:14.740 an information vacuum

00:58:15.820 here there's a

00:58:17.280 massive information

00:58:18.000 vacuum and you know

00:58:19.080 for the president and

00:58:20.480 the administration who

00:58:21.680 declared victory based

00:58:23.540 on internet and vibes

00:58:25.200 and podcasts let's

00:58:26.580 take a survey shall

00:58:27.640 we of every podcast

00:58:29.240 that he appeared on

00:58:30.220 and how do they feel

00:58:31.540 about the iran

00:58:32.900 conflict you can you

00:58:34.080 can look very clearly

00:58:34.960 for yourself you can

00:58:35.920 look at a lot of the

00:58:36.540 polling of that same

00:58:37.360 demographic which they

00:58:38.240 were very excited

00:58:38.900 about young men in

00:58:40.140 particular how are they

00:58:41.040 feeling about this

00:58:42.200 conflict and you know

00:58:43.360 if you were saying 90

00:58:44.160 10 it's not even true

00:58:45.240 in a republican sense i

00:58:46.260 mean the latest one

00:58:47.140 that i saw was like

00:58:47.800 72 percent republicans

00:58:49.440 which by the way mr

00:58:50.520 president and everybody

00:58:51.340 in the administration

00:58:52.380 bush had 93 for iraq and

00:58:54.260 how did that turn out

00:58:55.020 for him so let's not

00:58:56.300 put you know put all of

00:58:57.320 our eggs in the basket

00:58:58.520 of just because

00:58:59.140 republican voters are

00:59:00.180 here that this is all

00:59:01.300 going to be like

00:59:02.000 sunshine and roses and

00:59:03.460 i also would not make

00:59:04.560 the spurious claim that

00:59:05.840 it's all about iran

00:59:07.200 it's about compounding

00:59:08.400 effects the gas price

00:59:09.920 effect of the iran

00:59:10.860 conflict is going to be

00:59:11.920 dramatically more

00:59:12.600 important to the white

00:59:13.660 house's political chances

00:59:14.640 in the midterms than

00:59:15.900 anything that's actually

00:59:16.820 happening on the ground

00:59:17.920 i don't think it should

00:59:18.760 be that way but that's

00:59:19.700 reality and i do think

00:59:21.180 also you know your

00:59:22.080 your your uh your

00:59:24.000 inclination to get him

00:59:25.200 to try and declare

00:59:25.800 victory that's the

00:59:27.180 correct move from a

00:59:28.640 strategic perspective and

00:59:29.920 economic perspective from

00:59:31.540 every political perspective

00:59:33.160 you don't want the

00:59:34.800 entire country's national

00:59:36.080 discourse focus on iran

00:59:38.700 i'll give you a good

00:59:39.480 example just yesterday

00:59:40.280 the white house did a

00:59:42.120 summit where they were

00:59:43.540 trying to address rising

00:59:45.140 electricity prices on

00:59:46.740 data centers in another

00:59:48.160 world no iran that's a

00:59:50.020 main topic of conversation

00:59:51.340 on my show a major topic

00:59:53.580 maybe one of yours

00:59:54.700 interests as well but in

00:59:56.260 the middle of rumor and

00:59:57.920 peace and death and

00:59:59.400 everything that's

00:59:59.880 happening the amount of

01:00:00.960 coverage that got is

01:00:02.160 zero the president just

01:00:03.720 gave his state of the

01:00:04.740 union he had a lot of

01:00:06.020 things in that state of

01:00:06.720 the union iran what it

01:00:07.800 didn't come until the

01:00:08.700 70th minute i think what

01:00:10.600 was the rest of it about

01:00:11.520 the economy about gas

01:00:13.120 prices about jobs mr

01:00:15.320 president and others like

01:00:16.420 that's what people really

01:00:17.640 vote on and so there's

01:00:19.120 also in washington and

01:00:20.740 in media there is

01:00:22.060 literally zero sub

01:00:23.560 whenever it comes to

01:00:24.560 people's attention the

01:00:25.960 news's attention media and

01:00:27.700 it's not like we're doing

01:00:28.320 the wrong thing matters of

01:00:29.540 war and peace are

01:00:30.320 unironically more

01:00:31.160 important than data

01:00:32.560 center electricity

01:00:33.680 potential plans but if

01:00:35.600 you want people to be

01:00:36.460 even acknowledged that

01:00:37.860 you're focusing on those

01:00:38.900 types of things you

01:00:39.780 cannot be having foreign

01:00:41.420 adventurism run amok in

01:00:43.300 the middle east and be

01:00:44.580 declaring things like

01:00:45.560 unconditional surrender

01:00:46.660 which is going to be the

01:00:47.460 headline of every major

01:00:48.940 news you know every news

01:00:50.460 organization in america

01:00:51.880 you know whenever we're

01:00:52.980 going to make iran great

01:00:54.040 again whether you're pro

01:00:55.340 or anti that's all people

01:00:56.720 are going to be talking

01:00:57.440 about for the foreseeable

01:00:58.860 future not to mention

01:00:59.920 oil prices and just

01:01:01.380 the sheer imagery of

01:01:02.940 bombs literally flying

01:01:04.260 that's right over

01:01:04.860 people's head

01:01:05.620 so big picture and

01:01:09.220 again i'm always rooting

01:01:10.080 for the united states

01:01:11.000 and its president no

01:01:11.800 matter who it is in the

01:01:12.720 case of this president i

01:01:13.440 know him really well for

01:01:14.260 many years and i i'll

01:01:15.440 always like him i don't

01:01:16.320 care what he says about

01:01:17.180 me um i will always have

01:01:18.860 affection for him but i

01:01:21.280 also think if you think

01:01:22.360 about it like this is the

01:01:23.600 end of something voters

01:01:25.320 take a guy from

01:01:26.440 completely outside the

01:01:27.540 political system because

01:01:28.480 they're so frustrated with

01:01:29.380 the system and they like

01:01:31.000 him or don't like him or

01:01:31.820 whatever but it's the

01:01:32.500 system that is on trial

01:01:35.080 here and the system has

01:01:36.040 been found wanting it

01:01:37.920 doesn't actually respond

01:01:39.400 to voters in the way that

01:01:40.400 it should it's not

01:01:41.200 improving the country so

01:01:42.620 they bring this guy from

01:01:43.500 completely outside the

01:01:44.320 system to shock the

01:01:45.660 system and to tame it to

01:01:47.160 drain the swamp and now i

01:01:49.600 think we can say that that

01:01:51.180 failed and so what now

01:01:53.560 yeah that's uh well we have

01:01:55.840 three more years to go i

01:01:57.200 put a book behind me the

01:01:58.620 george w bush book and it

01:01:59.980 gave me no pleasure to do

01:02:01.140 so because the parallels i'm

01:02:02.920 watching already to oh four

01:02:04.280 to oh eight let's think

01:02:05.540 about it we've got a squishy

01:02:07.020 economy with some problems

01:02:08.620 we've got a middle eastern

01:02:09.540 conflict potential energy

01:02:11.260 crisis we have an ai potential

01:02:13.620 bubble which could part pop at

01:02:15.640 any moment we have democrats

01:02:17.700 who are rabbed radically

01:02:19.520 enthused with no leader at the

01:02:21.880 top meaning they get to have an

01:02:23.460 open debate in their party

01:02:25.320 they can say things that are

01:02:26.600 a lot more honest than the

01:02:27.840 person who has a leader at

01:02:28.600 the top of their party they

01:02:29.740 can have real function and

01:02:31.420 they can actually debate

01:02:32.760 things out in the open that

01:02:34.220 it's very healthy for a

01:02:35.540 political party and that's

01:02:36.560 exactly how the democrats

01:02:37.540 really ascended from power

01:02:39.000 from 2004 the failed john

01:02:40.800 carrey campaign to winning

01:02:42.080 what 55 percent of the vote

01:02:43.540 under barack obama that was

01:02:45.260 a very good process for them

01:02:46.460 well i'm watching it all play

01:02:48.180 out step by step by step and

01:02:50.580 it's very similar like you just

01:02:52.220 said about the revolution there

01:02:53.520 was a revolutionary aspect to

01:02:54.840 the donald trump campaign the

01:02:56.100 second one more so than the

01:02:57.560 first in my opinion and

01:02:58.660 affirmed i think with the

01:02:59.960 popular vote where it truly

01:03:01.620 was revolutionary in terms of

01:03:03.560 it you have this president

01:03:04.640 he'd been president before i

01:03:06.420 mean literally like he was

01:03:07.860 almost assassinated there were

01:03:09.700 all of these potential

01:03:10.840 indictments against him you

01:03:12.420 know the imagery the sheer

01:03:13.700 like imagery and idea of

01:03:15.420 somebody like that being able

01:03:16.420 to ascend again to the

01:03:17.940 highest office of the land is

01:03:19.280 insane and then in the

01:03:20.280 initial moments you have

01:03:21.700 doge and you have you know

01:03:23.560 people you would never see in

01:03:24.640 power like rfk jr and tulsi

01:03:26.980 gabbard and pete hegseth there

01:03:28.820 was a real excitement for an

01:03:30.420 or cash patel origin or that

01:03:32.160 at that point not at this

01:03:33.120 point but these people were

01:03:34.100 seen as revolutionary actors

01:03:35.360 who were going to come in and

01:03:36.420 throw a bomb inside of the

01:03:37.780 system but then if you watch

01:03:39.640 the u.s government do the

01:03:40.600 exact same thing that it did

01:03:42.320 under all these past

01:03:43.260 presidents your revolution

01:03:44.960 starts to look a lot more like

01:03:46.580 the status quo which was

01:03:48.220 deeply hated in which you

01:03:49.560 exploited to your great

01:03:51.140 political benefit and right

01:03:52.300 now i am watching the same

01:03:53.960 type of revolutionary aspect

01:03:55.320 take place in the democratic

01:03:57.080 party and if you want any part

01:03:58.940 of that and not to just be run

01:04:00.580 over in future elections they

01:04:02.280 need to get wise very very

01:04:03.560 quickly i i wonder i mean since

01:04:06.840 all kinds of things have

01:04:08.080 happened in the last two years

01:04:09.640 that no one ever could have

01:04:11.340 predicted like really really

01:04:12.640 radical things from trumping

01:04:13.940 shot in butler pennsylvania to

01:04:16.160 right now a week ago the

01:04:18.620 united states declaring war

01:04:20.100 on you know unprovoked there's

01:04:22.820 no direct provocation in the

01:04:24.440 middle of negotiations with

01:04:25.720 iran like even though it was

01:04:27.740 happening it was still a shock

01:04:29.220 that it actually happened since

01:04:31.780 we have a very recent track

01:04:33.620 record of really unusual if not

01:04:36.540 radical things happening i mean

01:04:38.920 how oh like how concerned should

01:04:42.800 we be in the united states about

01:04:45.600 something like really radical

01:04:46.960 happening here and not just a

01:04:48.260 terror attack or as likely a

01:04:50.220 false flag terror attack or

01:04:51.420 whatever americans being killed

01:04:52.760 in america which is what

01:04:53.740 matters but like the u.s

01:04:55.340 government doing something

01:04:56.540 crazy how should we feel about

01:04:59.840 criticism of this war or

01:05:01.840 americans who criticize the war

01:05:03.260 from within the united states

01:05:04.460 at risk yeah do you think i mean

01:05:07.140 let's just be honest it

01:05:08.180 terrifies me it terrifies me let's

01:05:10.120 be honest that you should be

01:05:11.260 honest because well let's look

01:05:12.880 at the department of homeland

01:05:13.740 security right and we you and i

01:05:15.900 can be supportive of a lot of

01:05:17.120 the president's immigration

01:05:18.020 policy and i think we can also

01:05:19.360 recognize that there were parts

01:05:20.940 of that immigration policy which

01:05:22.440 were specifically directed by a

01:05:24.580 foreign lobby for trying to

01:05:25.920 deport people who are critical

01:05:27.320 of the nation state of israel

01:05:28.580 sorry i didn't care about that

01:05:30.140 that was literally like a

01:05:31.400 function of like the department

01:05:32.480 of anti-racism effectively coming

01:05:34.420 in becoming the department of

01:05:35.420 anti-semitism as floated by

01:05:37.300 ipraim kendi so that was the

01:05:38.820 level of insanity that we saw

01:05:40.420 when people are getting

01:05:41.020 deported for writing an op-ed

01:05:42.440 okay well now this machinery

01:05:44.420 has a new uh potential lead

01:05:46.700 mark wayne mullin he's very

01:05:47.880 pro-israel uh well also let's

01:05:49.940 see that could get you know

01:05:51.260 marched and created into an

01:05:52.860 organism where already you know

01:05:54.740 i've seen calls for people who

01:05:56.360 are critical of the war you know

01:05:57.960 should be silent should be

01:05:59.140 subpoenaed i think i saw that

01:06:00.280 one about you they said that you

01:06:01.460 should be subpoenaed and dragged

01:06:02.480 they said i should be

01:06:03.520 imprisoned yeah right

01:06:04.900 imprisoned right didn't

01:06:06.220 somebody say you should even be

01:06:07.160 put into an internment camp

01:06:08.680 this is how it all happened guys

01:06:10.360 i mean this is how it all had

01:06:12.460 the pearl harbor to internment

01:06:14.940 camps for japanese was like this

01:06:17.220 it was a blink of an eye within a

01:06:19.340 year-long period that's how it

01:06:20.960 happened where we stripped all of

01:06:22.760 these americans of their

01:06:23.720 fundamental rights and locked them

01:06:25.580 in a camp that's insane so the

01:06:28.000 idea that it could never happen is

01:06:29.620 obviously proven by our own

01:06:30.800 history that it very obviously

01:06:32.360 could but more importantly it will

01:06:33.880 look like in a 21st century way so

01:06:36.780 there will be ai there's already

01:06:38.400 mass censorship there's mass bots

01:06:40.480 and propaganda efforts that are

01:06:42.100 going on right now i mean already

01:06:43.260 how difficult is it to even see

01:06:44.900 various types of video which is

01:06:46.980 coming out from the actual

01:06:48.140 conflict trying to verify whether

01:06:50.000 any of this is even real in real

01:06:52.080 time as we're processing what's

01:06:53.880 happening but i think what you

01:06:54.900 raise is if you look at every war

01:06:57.340 as for americans especially the

01:06:59.160 wars of my lifetime the war on

01:07:01.060 terror i am fundamentally less free

01:07:03.320 today than i was as a child born in

01:07:06.080 the united states in 1992 and the

01:07:08.180 americans who lived through

01:07:09.500 vietnam were less free after the

01:07:11.760 vietnam war than they were before

01:07:13.440 and the americans who were born or

01:07:15.460 the americans in world war ii were

01:07:17.320 less free in many respects or

01:07:19.300 especially during the war for

01:07:20.960 censorship rules and all of the

01:07:22.520 stuff that the government was doing

01:07:23.900 than before the outbreak of the war

01:07:25.260 and then before that with world war

01:07:27.140 one in civil war too i mean think

01:07:29.020 about suspension of habeas corpus all

01:07:30.520 of these different things that these

01:07:31.840 presidents have done it is a natural

01:07:33.700 effect for a wartime nation to crack

01:07:36.260 down on speech and specifically

01:07:38.600 critical speech of those war efforts

01:07:40.840 and we should be afraid even if you

01:07:42.760 like the person who is in power you

01:07:45.240 need to recognize that this is a

01:07:46.740 historical trend which goes back

01:07:48.580 through our entire history it's part

01:07:50.320 of the reason i think that you and i

01:07:51.360 abhor war so much and we also this is

01:07:54.460 the scariest part is this is when you

01:07:57.500 watch this censorship be self-imposed on

01:08:00.660 media organizations and you create a

01:08:03.280 system and an incentive structure such

01:08:05.900 that criticizing the war will remove

01:08:08.300 you know any professional ability that

01:08:10.620 you may have to advance yourself

01:08:12.000 specifically let's say as a policy

01:08:13.560 maker in washington you and i know

01:08:15.660 dozens of people who are in power

01:08:17.900 they don't support this war they can't

01:08:19.860 say anything out of fear of losing

01:08:22.260 their job i'm not just talking about

01:08:23.440 in the white house i'm talking about

01:08:24.540 in the entire you know national

01:08:26.100 security apparatus the think tanks or

01:08:28.360 others because they're afraid you know

01:08:30.120 of either being called by the donors

01:08:31.500 or before saying that you're being too

01:08:33.220 critical of something that the

01:08:34.660 president supports open debate and

01:08:36.660 free speech the inability to have any

01:08:38.720 of that in the lead up to iraq destroyed

01:08:41.100 our nation it destroyed it i'm very

01:08:44.080 committed to making sure that doesn't

01:08:45.420 happen again but you and i are very

01:08:47.300 into we're individuals and the u.s

01:08:49.520 government is the leviathan and we

01:08:51.120 should be weary of it are are you i

01:08:53.580 mean as someone and i this is not

01:08:55.620 flattery but it's sincere you are one

01:08:57.560 of the very first people to see this

01:09:01.260 realignment in american politics i mean

01:09:03.660 10 years ago um you saw it very clearly

01:09:06.800 and you staked your whole career on it

01:09:08.480 and you were right and that's why you've

01:09:10.020 been successful i would say so it's

01:09:13.060 worth listening to your prediction i think

01:09:14.800 on this question do you see a crackdown on

01:09:19.300 civil liberties human rights in the united

01:09:21.440 states coming up and because of this war

01:09:25.060 the war is a pretext for what was already

01:09:26.960 in the plans but do you see that

01:09:29.260 happening i could see it easily happening

01:09:31.900 and we already have the machinery as we

01:09:34.280 saw with israel criticism and the so-called

01:09:36.860 department of anti-racism i've raised

01:09:38.940 several cases to you tucker of the

01:09:40.640 department of justice getting involved in

01:09:42.640 like campus incidents uh which is insane

01:09:45.240 by the way i oppose that under obama i

01:09:47.260 oppose that under uh biden i oppose it now

01:09:49.840 you know i'm going to stick to my

01:09:51.520 principles the machinery for that is

01:09:53.500 already laid and it is one that should

01:09:55.840 really terrify us and you and i are in a

01:09:57.800 unique position we can speak out i don't

01:09:59.440 really care about myself i care about the

01:10:01.900 individual person who is relatively

01:10:04.560 powerless with 200 or so followers

01:10:06.940 getting a knock on the door by the fbi

01:10:09.260 saying hey why did you say this what did

01:10:10.960 you mean by that and that very level of

01:10:13.100 harassment is chilling not to mention an

01:10:15.300 institutional level who knows i mean

01:10:17.160 will the government find people look at

01:10:18.980 look at the situation with anthropic and

01:10:21.200 clod right i mean you have this showdown

01:10:23.560 between the pentagon and anthropic over

01:10:25.900 the use of ai their technology in a time

01:10:28.860 of war demands over human oversight the

01:10:31.940 government's basically saying that's

01:10:33.060 unacceptable you don't get to dictate

01:10:34.360 those terms to us they can blacklist you

01:10:36.640 as a company literally blacklist you for

01:10:39.340 not agreeing to those terms that's fine

01:10:40.500 that's their right but think about that i

01:10:42.160 mean they're basically saying that not

01:10:43.540 only are they not going to use the tech

01:10:44.500 they're not blacklisted from all u.s

01:10:45.820 government contractors which is massively

01:10:48.000 massively impactful to their entire

01:10:51.020 business this can happen across the

01:10:53.440 board and you can look at look at the

01:10:55.660 cbs acquisition right now with barry weiss

01:10:58.840 in charge of cbs news censorship doesn't

01:11:01.820 just happen and you know censorship and

01:11:04.480 reduction civil liberty does not just

01:11:05.960 happen at the government level corporate

01:11:07.820 censorship corporate power can be just

01:11:10.080 as much of a threat to your individual

01:11:11.920 liberty as the government power i mean

01:11:14.620 this is the last english-speaking

01:11:16.400 country probably the last country in the

01:11:18.280 world in which attitudes have not yet

01:11:20.380 been criminalized at least officially but

01:11:22.440 australia new zealand canada every

01:11:24.720 country in europe you're not allowed to

01:11:26.320 have certain attitudes you can go to

01:11:27.820 jail like your opinions are crimes they

01:11:30.260 are literally thought crimes and i've

01:11:32.520 just noticed because i've been at the

01:11:34.120 center of it this effort over the past

01:11:36.640 year to criminalize attitudes and when i was

01:11:40.000 first called an anti-semite i remember

01:11:41.180 thinking well i'm actually not and so i

01:11:43.380 don't know why you're calling me that

01:11:44.540 and i was annoyed or whatever but the

01:11:46.780 insistence with which these forces are

01:11:49.920 labeling people with the slander anti-semite

01:11:54.540 it doesn't seem accidental i don't really

01:11:57.160 think it's not here if you're an anti-semite

01:11:59.080 or not i mean israel is very close to the

01:12:00.780 zelensky government which supports actual

01:12:02.500 nazis so like they don't care if you're

01:12:04.300 an anti-semite this is an effort to set the

01:12:08.460 stage for prosecutions that's what i'm

01:12:10.600 starting to think do you think that's too

01:12:12.520 too paranoid no not at all well first of

01:12:15.280 all we literally deported people for being

01:12:17.320 critical of israel that actually happened

01:12:19.340 already under this government we are having

01:12:21.680 the department of justice the attorney

01:12:23.420 general get involved in campus incidents

01:12:25.400 around so-called anti-semitism that is the

01:12:28.740 machine and the groundwork which could be

01:12:30.820 laid for exactly what you're talking about

01:12:32.720 but then let's look we recognize this if

01:12:34.940 you live through the woke revolution let's

01:12:36.960 think about the way that this works now with

01:12:38.480 so-called anti-semitism as they accuse you

01:12:40.940 it's all about escalation so first you're

01:12:43.200 being defined as an anti-semi and where

01:12:45.320 your recent comments what do they say that

01:12:47.100 you're trying to incite violence against a

01:12:49.960 specific organization incitement of violence

01:12:52.220 is actually a very specific term so what

01:12:54.340 does that mean an imminent threat which

01:12:56.000 means that they want to be able to have an

01:12:57.640 fbi agent come and knock on your door to

01:12:59.700 ask you either to clarify what you're asking

01:13:01.320 about or potentially prosecute you for your

01:13:03.780 alleged comments that are around this each

01:13:05.980 one is a step in a ground to make sure and

01:13:08.640 to lay the groundwork to make it so that

01:13:10.860 such a case could eventually be brought and

01:13:13.260 in an insane time and when we have look we're

01:13:16.080 at the very beginnings of this conflict who

01:13:17.760 knows how long it goes i pray it just ends

01:13:19.980 but again all through history it only usually

01:13:23.340 gets worse whenever it comes to censorship

01:13:25.680 and demands i mean already this entire

01:13:28.160 conversation you and i know will be branded

01:13:30.660 as anti-semitic and pro-iran these are

01:13:34.240 meaningless ridiculous terms right but

01:13:36.740 they will be pumped as propaganda into

01:13:39.340 entire ecosystem to smear and to define us

01:13:42.580 both as individuals from there if you're

01:13:45.180 pro-iran and where it were with iran wow

01:13:47.600 then you're a traitor so now the traitor

01:13:49.120 moniker is going to begin to be applied and

01:13:51.820 then from there we'll start talking about

01:13:53.960 treason right so very recently i'll give you

01:13:56.040 a great example during the outbreak of

01:13:58.140 russia and of ukraine we had an incident i

01:14:00.640 think it was with youtube where they banned

01:14:02.120 all russian state media and i would make a

01:14:04.760 case to them behind the scenes i said guys

01:14:06.920 i'm not pro-russian but if we're in the

01:14:08.880 middle of a war which you know ostensibly

01:14:10.640 we're not even in shouldn't i be able to

01:14:12.400 cover what's going on in russia which

01:14:14.880 yes as a state media but they put out things

01:14:16.900 from vladimir putin should i not be allowed

01:14:18.960 to play things from vladimir putin but never

01:14:21.440 really had an answer to that i used to deal

01:14:23.500 with that with donald trump so back in 2021

01:14:25.620 they had a policy where even if you

01:14:27.860 pulled a clip of donald trump saying that

01:14:30.600 the election was stolen some let's say in

01:14:32.680 2021 they would take down that video and i

01:14:35.680 would say guys i have to cover the news

01:14:37.340 he's going to run for president i you know

01:14:39.400 i can get commentary on his clips but that

01:14:42.300 is how quickly the censorship machine can

01:14:44.440 act and especially now we're watching here

01:14:46.720 with the intertwinement of regulators and of

01:14:49.500 these big companies if you start to put

01:14:51.240 pressure like that you could see it so

01:14:53.240 that even with the government not directly

01:14:55.260 trying to censor you for your comments by

01:14:57.500 literally just branding you anti-semitic pro

01:14:59.840 iran or any of these things you can watch

01:15:02.360 your very ability to speak out as a citizen

01:15:05.060 in america be a vat be eroded you know or

01:15:07.800 evaporate completely overnight and and just

01:15:11.140 to restate like the foundational principle of

01:15:14.080 the country you have a right a god-given right

01:15:16.820 not granted you by government but with which

01:15:19.560 you were born to have any opinion you want to

01:15:22.740 follow your own conscience you don't have a

01:15:24.580 right to do anything you want but you have a

01:15:26.840 right to believe anything you want and to say

01:15:29.000 anything that you want that you believe is

01:15:30.920 true period and so i'm not pro-iran i've never

01:15:35.660 been to iran and i'm certainly not an anti-semite

01:15:37.640 at all however any american has the right to

01:15:42.200 preferences and beliefs religious beliefs

01:15:45.440 philosophical beliefs political beliefs those

01:15:48.720 are absolute rights those are human rights

01:15:50.520 that's what human rights are and so you can

01:15:53.080 never prosecute someone for having views you

01:15:57.780 disagree with period and i i do think we have

01:16:01.300 to stand up for that above all else right

01:16:03.620 especially in wartime and wartime more important

01:16:06.860 than ever and you know again i i watched this

01:16:09.940 happen uh with iraq i watched this happen

01:16:12.720 with afghanistan i've read too much about it

01:16:15.620 from vietnam from world war one from world war

01:16:18.080 two from the civil war and i literally based my

01:16:21.360 entire career trying to say this will never

01:16:24.120 happen or if any if i have anything to do with

01:16:25.880 it it won't happen again and then it did happen

01:16:28.480 again and so then we have to set up for the

01:16:30.580 next playbook it's okay we know that they're

01:16:33.060 coming we know they're coming so we have to

01:16:34.860 plan for that the only way to plan for that is

01:16:36.840 to get the people who are on our side because

01:16:38.780 fundamentally you know it's again it's not

01:16:40.920 about us it's about even it's really about

01:16:43.160 smaller private individuals who have literally

01:16:47.300 the fundamental right to say their whatever

01:16:49.780 they want and to that for them to be harassed we

01:16:52.620 have to protect that more than anything yeah i

01:16:57.020 don't know what's coming next but i know that

01:16:58.420 you're going to be at the center of it and um i

01:17:01.040 know you will understand it before most people so

01:17:02.980 i hope that you will come back i really mean

01:17:06.060 that anytime i'm grateful for this thank

01:17:07.980 you sagar and jenny great to see you tucker

01:17:10.600 and thank you for everything that you do

01:17:12.460 and uh for giving me my own start in this

01:17:14.440 business i'll always be so deeply thankful man

01:17:16.640 if i knew you were as smart as you turned out

01:17:18.400 to be i i would have paid you more

01:17:20.000 still be working here

01:17:21.740 that too i would have liked that too i would

01:17:24.460 like that thank you sagar great to see you

01:17:26.240 man

01:17:32.620 Bye

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The Tucker Carlson Show - March 06, 2026

Tucker on the Devastating Cost of War and What It Means for American Politics With Saagar Enjeti

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