The Tucker Carlson Show - Tucker speaks at AmericaFest

00:00:00.000 Thank you!

00:00:10.880 Well this is a trip, thank you!

00:00:14.680 Thank you.

00:00:19.680 I really feel like I should have a guitar.

00:00:25.420 This is like, this is like the scene in Spinal Tap with Stonehenge and they came out, it's

00:00:36.300 such a trip.

00:00:38.340 Thank you all for having me, most, thank you.

00:00:46.040 Most of my life bears no resemblance to this at all, I can promise you.

00:00:52.300 Oh, I don't know what you said, but I agree with you a hundred percent.

00:00:55.720 Lady in the front row with the loud voice, thank you, um, thank you. 0.98

00:01:01.300 I was, I have to say, I knew I was in the right place cause I've spoken, in fact I speak here

00:01:05.700 every year cause I really enjoy it and I love Charlie.

00:01:08.300 But, um, so there's never a question of whether I was in the right place.

00:01:12.980 But when I heard Tulsi Gabbard mention the phrase Nikki Haley and people booed, I was like,

00:01:19.540 oh yeah, we're in the right, but then it raised actually a philosophical question for me, which

00:01:24.680 is should you put air quotes around Nikki Haley because otherwise you're just assuming this

00:01:29.160 is a real person and not just a hologram put out there by Ken Griffin in the billionaire

00:01:34.000 class to torment you.

00:01:36.080 And I do think that's like an open question.

00:01:38.620 Is Nikki Haley real?

00:01:40.540 And actually now, I mean, I don't know, look, look, do I look like a biologist or a theologian?

00:01:46.220 I don't know what is real, but I, exactly, exactly is funny.

00:01:54.340 We were in the car coming here, we were doing like a thought experiment in the car, a couple

00:01:57.860 of my producers and we're like, wouldn't it be fun?

00:02:00.640 And now I'm letting it out of the bag.

00:02:01.720 So I probably shouldn't do this.

00:02:02.720 Now we actually can't do it cause she'll possibly see it.

00:02:05.400 But wouldn't it be fun to call Nikki Haley and pretend that we're representatives, secret

00:02:11.620 representatives in Geneva, the government of Iran and say, look, you've been pretty tough

00:02:16.480 on the Islamic Republic of Iran, obviously, but we have some of the biggest oil reserves

00:02:21.200 in the world and we can cut you in on them.

00:02:24.160 And like, what would it cost for you to become our advocate?

00:02:29.560 Like, what is the number at which Nikki Haley would be like, you know what?

00:02:33.220 I'm not working for Boeing anymore.

00:02:35.420 I'm working for Iran. 0.93

00:02:37.500 And like, there is a number, right?

00:02:39.100 And so you could, you could say, all right, we'll wire it, we'll wire it to Switzerland,

00:02:43.200 we'll hold it in account for you.

00:02:44.660 And the next time the Republican candidates get together, just get up there and take up

00:02:48.180 the cause of the mullahs.

00:02:50.020 And I don't have any doubt in my mind that she'd be like, okay.

00:02:54.180 And there'd be Nikki Haley being like, you know, I've been a little tough on Iran, but

00:02:56.700 actually it's a pretty great place.

00:03:03.220 And I think of that every time the Hunter Biden story comes up.

00:03:08.060 Of course, I love the Hunter Biden story.

00:03:09.420 We were, we were early on that and it just has everything, you know, it's got the audio

00:03:15.140 visuals.

00:03:17.420 It's got the intrigue.

00:03:19.660 It's just got a lot of flamboyant components that I, as an inherent drama queen, just absolutely

00:03:26.360 love.

00:03:27.740 The teeth picture, just like the whole thing.

00:03:29.740 I love it.

00:03:30.940 The only thing I don't like about the Hunter Biden story is that it may give some people

00:03:35.740 the impression that he's the most corrupt person in Washington or his father is.

00:03:42.480 And that's just, that's just not true.

00:03:43.720 And as someone who spent a long time there, like actually my whole adult life, I could

00:03:49.160 say, and as someone who like lived right down the street from Hunter Biden and knew him

00:03:52.540 well, uh, I can say, I didn't really notice how corrupt Hunter Biden was because he wasn't

00:03:58.720 different from like most other people in my neighborhood.

00:04:02.020 No, I'm, and that's totally sincere.

00:04:03.720 It, that's not that weird for Washington, which, which is the reason it's the richest country

00:04:11.940 in the world.

00:04:12.580 You're, I don't have my glasses on.

00:04:15.980 Thank you though.

00:04:17.580 And, um, I like signs.

00:04:19.800 I like people who wave signs.

00:04:21.100 I like people who scream weird questions.

00:04:22.680 We're doing Q and a at the end.

00:04:24.760 Um, Oh yeah.

00:04:27.340 But anyway, but here's the point.

00:04:29.560 That's not strange.

00:04:30.640 It's a whole city of Hunter Bidens, less crack, better teeth, fewer weird, incestuous affairs.

00:04:38.620 However, that mode of behavior, that way of making a living is absolutely standard.

00:04:45.380 What's changed is the object.

00:04:47.800 If you live in a society where the people in charge just want to sell you out to get rich,

00:04:52.100 that's bad, but that's not what we're watching.

00:04:55.980 We're watching something much darker than that.

00:04:58.180 So the objective of, I would say, the entire administration and its enablers in the Republican

00:05:05.660 Party, which is most elected officials there, is to destroy the United States, the recognizable 0.83

00:05:13.000 United States, the country you grew up in, the country you've been living in, say, 10

00:05:16.160 years ago.

00:05:16.740 So, and that's kind of obvious to everyone, but too few people pause and ask, well, what

00:05:24.700 is that?

00:05:26.580 Like, these people live here.

00:05:28.960 They don't all have secret island getaways, especially now that Epstein is gone.

00:05:33.620 And so, if they succeed in their project of destroying the United States, where are they going to

00:05:40.700 go?

00:05:42.100 It's a little bit like burning your own house down.

00:05:45.620 So why would you do that?

00:05:48.060 That's not just an act of destruction, it's an act of self-destruction.

00:05:53.700 So, is that a political program?

00:05:56.600 No.

00:05:56.860 A political program is designed to help the people who institute it and their voters and

00:06:02.980 donors.

00:06:03.940 Their program helps nobody.

00:06:06.940 If you successfully convince an entire generation of young people not to have children, what

00:06:14.160 you're doing is denying yourself grandchildren, which I can tell you at 54 is kind of the only

00:06:18.680 thing you want.

00:06:20.220 And it's not only the only thing you want, it's the only thing that anyone has ever wanted,

00:06:23.880 because having children and continuing the species, passing on your DNA to future generations

00:06:30.520 you will never meet, is the whole point of life.

00:06:33.380 There is no other point, and there's no other accurate measure of wealth than your descendants.

00:06:39.120 So if you are creating a society where, and that's not, that's not like some kooky evangelical

00:06:44.560 view.

00:06:46.500 That's like a very obvious thing that was obvious to everybody in all human history until

00:06:51.780 about 20 minutes ago.

00:06:53.880 So if you're doing that to your own country and your own children, and they are, and I

00:07:01.080 know because I lived among them, their children aren't doing great at all. 0.98

00:07:05.760 They may be rich, but they're totally screwed up. 1.00

00:07:09.760 And they're totally loaded up with benzos and SSRIs and addled by porn, and they're as stupid 1.00

00:07:14.960 and aimless and doomed as anyone else's children. 1.00

00:07:18.240 And probably a higher percentage of them are trans or non-binary or two-spirit or whatever,

00:07:24.440 which is to say doomed to a life of barren unhappiness.

00:07:29.040 So what is that?

00:07:30.380 And what it is, is evil.

00:07:33.520 That's what that is.

00:07:35.840 And I think people misunderstand evil.

00:07:39.880 They assume that evil is something that you inflict on other people.

00:07:43.800 I do an evil thing to you because I am evil.

00:07:46.540 And what they miss is that that's not exactly how it works.

00:07:50.840 Evil pre-exists us.

00:07:52.060 Evil's been around since the beginning of time.

00:07:56.020 And certainly in the beginning of recorded history, we know that.

00:07:58.960 And it's not something that people simply do to one another.

00:08:01.680 It's something that acts through people.

00:08:03.420 People become conduits for evil.

00:08:05.980 And in the process of doing that, what happens to them?

00:08:09.140 Anyone?

00:08:09.780 Anyone?

00:08:10.400 They're destroyed.

00:08:12.400 The people doing evil do not win in the end.

00:08:15.520 They are destroyed by the evil that flows through them. 1.00

00:08:18.480 They are miserable people. 0.98

00:08:20.440 And that's kind of the tell, right? 0.96

00:08:24.540 I mean, I remember as a kid, you know, reading books about the mafia.

00:08:28.960 And they were bad and they killed people and they loan sharked and sold heroin and they did stuff that was bad.

00:08:34.540 I mean, undeniably bad.

00:08:36.840 But the one thing about the people who ran the mafia, at least in New York, they looked kind of happy.

00:08:41.600 Just being honest about it.

00:08:43.460 They did.

00:08:44.360 They kind of retired to some restaurant in Brooklyn and pat their bellies and smoke and laugh and...

00:08:50.440 You know, it was kind of working out pretty well for them before the FBI got involved and they did the RICO.

00:08:56.780 Right?

00:08:57.040 It was.

00:08:57.780 And by the way, there are people who do bad things who seem kind of happy with their lives.

00:09:02.200 But if you're channeling actual evil, if you're trying to destroy people for the sake of destroying them,

00:09:10.100 if you are lying for the sake of lying, for the thrill of telling a lie,

00:09:15.420 and if you are hurting people for the sin of telling the truth,

00:09:19.380 and you're offended simply because it is true,

00:09:21.480 if the idea that somebody somewhere might be saying a true thing enrages you,

00:09:28.060 that's not politics.

00:09:30.280 That's theology. 0.88

00:09:32.900 You are a conduit for evil.

00:09:35.620 So the reason I'm going on about this is not to give you some, you know, half-baked theology lecture.

00:09:41.220 It's merely to let you know what the plan is.

00:09:44.040 There is no plan.

00:09:44.900 They don't have a plan.

00:09:48.000 There's not a plan.

00:09:49.760 Why would you, as the American economy sits on the cusp of collapse,

00:09:53.940 when the U.S. dollar is worth less than it's ever been worth,

00:09:57.900 when our debt service is more than our defense spending,

00:10:02.080 and when robotics are eliminating entire classes of jobs for working-class people,

00:10:06.840 why would you admit, illegally, tens of millions of people

00:10:11.920 from the poorest countries in the world with no skills?

00:10:15.560 Why would you do that?

00:10:17.040 Is there some crazy plan the Chamber of Commerce, which is for it, by the way,

00:10:21.320 has, where this is going to, I don't know, make labor cheaper?

00:10:25.060 No.

00:10:26.460 There's no plan.

00:10:28.380 That will destroy the country, and that's why they're doing it.

00:10:33.360 And I think a lot of people who are doing that have no conscious awareness of this.

00:10:40.060 I don't think the staff of the Atlantic magazine, many of whom I know,

00:10:43.540 wake up every morning thinking, how could I destroy America, the country where my kids live?

00:10:47.940 I don't.

00:10:49.240 But there is no mistaking the effects of what they're doing.

00:10:53.160 It's destruction for its own sake.

00:10:55.200 And so that lets us know that it's not even about the next election, which I think is pivotal. 0.94

00:11:04.580 It's not about some political debate between, I don't know, pick the buffoons. 0.98

00:11:09.780 It's not about whatever the dumb cable channels are doing. 0.98

00:11:13.620 It's about your existence here, actually. 0.96

00:11:17.760 And so I'm not going to respond to that.

00:11:19.980 So the question is, how do you respond?

00:11:24.020 What do you do?

00:11:27.520 Well, that's one thing you could do.

00:11:29.300 No, what do you do in the face of something this profound?

00:11:35.160 And, well, of course you fight back.

00:11:37.020 But what are the tools you need to do that?

00:11:39.820 And the first tool you need, it's not even money.

00:11:43.420 In fact, you could look at successful resistance movements.

00:11:47.280 I don't mean revolutionary movements.

00:11:49.280 Resistance movements that actually have made change in their own country.

00:11:53.960 And some of them are unarmed and penniless.

00:11:56.060 I mean, you know, a hundred years of the Raj ended pretty quickly under a nonviolent movement in India.

00:12:03.080 And, like, how did they do that?

00:12:04.800 And they did it because they sincerely believed they were right and they were strong inside.

00:12:09.640 They were strong inside.

00:12:11.040 That's the key.

00:12:12.360 So how do you become strong inside?

00:12:15.740 You're getting warmer, baby.

00:12:18.760 You get strong inside.

00:12:20.080 And this is a nonsectarian point, which is open to people of all backgrounds and faiths,

00:12:24.200 because this is a truth of the universe.

00:12:27.340 You get strong inside by telling the truth.

00:12:31.820 And, but, but, but, but really telling the truth.

00:12:37.580 Really telling the truth.

00:12:39.940 Not just some truths, but being completely honest all the time, not just in your public-facing life, but in your personal life.

00:12:49.720 Now, what does that mean?

00:12:51.780 One of the huge misconceptions about telling the truth is that it applies to your descriptions of other people.

00:12:56.660 And that's not the case.

00:12:58.640 The hardest truth, and that's very easy.

00:13:00.700 Oh, you've gained weight.

00:13:02.200 Not a hard call.

00:13:02.900 I personally have heard that before.

00:13:06.980 It's not hard to point out other people's shortcomings.

00:13:11.420 And honestly, you take a kind of perverse, cruel thrill in doing so sometimes.

00:13:15.300 And telling the truth can be a cover for cruelty to other people.

00:13:19.540 I'm just telling you the truth. 1.00

00:13:21.120 You suck. 1.00

00:13:22.100 That's true. 1.00

00:13:22.680 Okay, great.

00:13:25.080 That's easy, and it's not what I'm talking about.

00:13:27.500 Telling the truth means the hardest truth of all, which is telling the truth about yourself.

00:13:33.280 Being honest about who you are.

00:13:36.820 It's the commitment to stop playing a role.

00:13:39.040 It's the commitment to living honestly.

00:13:43.520 And that means revealing who you are without shame.

00:13:47.080 Not posing at all.

00:13:48.840 At all.

00:13:50.160 But you. 0.97

00:13:52.500 And you will find, if you attempt this, the first thing you'll find is how unbelievably dishonest you are. 0.94

00:13:59.960 I tried this.

00:14:02.800 It's a little like a low-carb diet.

00:14:04.720 It sounds easy, then you realize, actually, I really love Reese's.

00:14:07.480 I just do.

00:14:08.140 I'm sorry.

00:14:09.680 And you didn't really know how much you loved Reese's until you went keto, and then you're like, all I care about is Reese's. 0.98

00:14:15.000 And then you realize, like, you really are kind of disgusting. 0.92

00:14:19.780 And telling the truth is the same project. 0.92

00:14:22.560 If you wake up and you're like, I'm just going to, in every statement I make, in every word that my lips form, I'm going to be honest.

00:14:29.540 Particularly about myself.

00:14:30.480 When I make a mistake, I'm going to admit it.

00:14:32.440 When I describe something, I will not exaggerate.

00:14:34.700 Not even a little.

00:14:37.020 I'm going to tell the full truth.

00:14:39.040 And there are some things I don't express.

00:14:42.300 Because telling the truth does not obligate you to unload the contents of your brain on anyone else.

00:14:48.080 And there are some things that are ugly and probably best kept inside your own head.

00:14:52.180 Because freedom is impossible without privacy.

00:14:55.440 So you can maintain privacy within your skull.

00:14:57.600 That's okay.

00:14:58.060 But the words your lips form should be utterly true all the time.

00:15:04.320 And if you do that, you will find, swelling in your breast, a power of unknown origin, but still unmistakably a power, a strength.

00:15:15.200 You become stronger.

00:15:16.200 You become stronger.

00:15:16.840 More than if you ran the Iron Man.

00:15:19.980 You will find yourself empowered in the truest sense.

00:15:23.760 You will find that a force moves through you.

00:15:28.140 And other people can feel it.

00:15:30.620 It comes off you in waves like a jet engine on a hot day.

00:15:33.940 You can see the weird distortions in the sky.

00:15:36.000 And they will back off.

00:15:39.500 It intimidates people.

00:15:40.720 It scares people if they know that you're strong inside.

00:15:43.480 It doesn't mean, you know, you have to be huge or ripped or whatever, drinking that weird protein powder that all the kids drink.

00:15:51.000 Not that I'm against it.

00:15:52.740 I don't know what it is.

00:15:53.900 But anyway.

00:15:56.040 Check the ingredients on that, by the way.

00:15:59.640 It's the parts of animals you're not supposed to eat.

00:16:01.480 That's just a guess.

00:16:01.960 Anyway.

00:16:03.720 But anyway.

00:16:07.500 No, it's a real strength.

00:16:09.620 It's a moral strength.

00:16:11.700 Not a self-righteousness, which is the opposite of moral strength.

00:16:14.680 That's always a signifier of weakness.

00:16:16.760 The guy who tells you how great he is is weak inside.

00:16:19.280 Because why are you telling me that?

00:16:20.460 I'll decide.

00:16:21.860 I know how good you are because I can smell it like a dog can smell it.

00:16:26.000 All of these perceptions and all of our deepest perceptions come to us at a level above words.

00:16:31.560 Or maybe below them.

00:16:32.420 But certainly outside of language.

00:16:34.320 We know what people are about when we're in their presence.

00:16:37.100 When we watch them.

00:16:38.620 Your dogs can't speak English.

00:16:41.300 I mean, mine can, but yours can't.

00:16:43.720 No, but really, a dog knows who people are.

00:16:45.960 Instantly.

00:16:47.060 Because they can feel it.

00:16:47.860 And so can you.

00:16:49.360 The distance between a human being and an animal.

00:16:51.660 The distance between our society and the animal kingdom is very small.

00:16:55.420 And we lie about that.

00:16:56.800 We've been lied to about that.

00:16:59.340 For whatever reason.

00:17:01.320 But that's totally real.

00:17:02.960 And you have those powers too.

00:17:04.400 And so does everyone around you.

00:17:05.660 Whether he knows it or not.

00:17:07.560 And so if you are strong inside.

00:17:09.820 People will make way for you.

00:17:15.160 And that's important.

00:17:17.080 Because we are entering a period of real volatility.

00:17:20.480 I mean, clearly.

00:17:22.280 Of real volatility.

00:17:24.280 And I'm not a parent.

00:17:25.200 I mean, I should just say at the outset.

00:17:26.700 You know, as I noted, I'm 54.

00:17:28.100 I grew up in Southern California.

00:17:29.440 Back when that was literally the greatest place on earth.

00:17:32.360 You felt deep sympathy and sadness for anyone who didn't live there.

00:17:35.580 For the billions of people who didn't live in Southern California.

00:17:39.020 And there were a lot of people who didn't live in Southern California.

00:17:41.020 And we honestly, we had a moment of silence for them.

00:17:44.340 Because it was so great.

00:17:45.340 So I am not a person who looks for apocalypse on the horizon.

00:17:51.120 I always think it's going to be 74 and sunny.

00:17:53.480 Just my nature.

00:17:54.680 And my upbringing.

00:17:55.560 Oh, 74 and sunny.

00:17:56.760 You're from Newport Beach.

00:17:57.620 Okay, I got it.

00:17:58.140 Anyway.

00:17:58.300 But the evidence unmistakably shows an acceleration in whatever this dark force is in this country whose only impulse is to destroy.

00:18:10.300 Not to improve or create, but to destroy.

00:18:13.380 And it's all around us.

00:18:15.860 And the only way to stop it is with that moral strength I described.

00:18:22.520 Guns won't stop it. 0.99

00:18:24.000 They have more than we do.

00:18:26.260 That's just true.

00:18:26.860 And they're happy to use them.

00:18:29.300 They're happy to use them.

00:18:30.920 And when I hear Senator Dick Durbin, who might be the most evil member of the Senate, and it's quite a tight race for that title.

00:18:36.820 When I hear Senator Dick Durbin say, maybe we should take some of the tens of millions of foreigners who've arrived. 0.99

00:18:41.820 All of them seem to be about 23 and in great shape.

00:18:44.980 And hand them automatic weapons in our military.

00:18:47.640 And give them badges and guns in our police departments.

00:18:50.160 I'm wondering, what exactly is that?

00:18:53.100 Oh, you're assembling an army against your own people. 0.91

00:18:55.360 That's what you're doing.

00:18:56.860 That's exactly what they're doing.

00:18:58.460 And you know that that's what they're doing.

00:19:00.240 So, whatever.

00:19:00.860 There are hard times ahead.

00:19:02.140 And you can't beat them with force of arms.

00:19:04.740 You can only beat them with the truth.

00:19:07.160 By showing up and standing immobile in the face of their lies and not fearing them.

00:19:11.940 And there's far too little of this going on.

00:19:17.380 And I felt it today as they announced they're going to tear down the monument commemorating the peace between North and South in the Civil War.

00:19:24.720 What is that?

00:19:28.640 And I thought, where are the...

00:19:29.760 And this is at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia, right across the bridge from Washington, D.C.

00:19:34.160 And I read that news that it was stayed by a judge.

00:19:36.940 Thank heaven.

00:19:37.600 But no one showed up to protest it.

00:19:41.980 And I thought, where are the veterans?

00:19:44.060 Where are the descendants of Civil War veterans, like me?

00:19:47.700 Like many people in this crowd who had ancestors who fought in that war on both sides.

00:19:53.280 They were all Americans.

00:19:56.380 To stand in front of that monument and say, it's not yours to destroy.

00:20:00.420 That's my history.

00:20:01.500 This is my country.

00:20:02.500 I was born here.

00:20:03.200 And you may not do that.

00:20:09.760 And their position will be, oh!

00:20:13.600 We're going to throw you in jail.

00:20:16.980 Okay.

00:20:17.940 Go ahead.

00:20:21.360 Go ahead.

00:20:24.140 It only takes three or four people with that crazy-eyed go-ahead look before they're like, whoa, wait a second.

00:20:30.480 We're dealing with a force here.

00:20:32.380 And I should say at the outset, I don't want to seem self-registered.

00:20:34.620 I did not do that.

00:20:35.720 Okay.

00:20:36.320 I'm here.

00:20:39.140 And so I hate it being a case of like somebody should do that.

00:20:43.200 But I guess what I'm really saying is everybody should do that.

00:20:45.640 Everybody should do that.

00:20:46.480 We know where this is going.

00:20:48.520 There's no happy end game here.

00:20:50.480 They're not trying to build a better society.

00:20:52.100 If there is, where's the evidence of their efforts?

00:20:53.900 It doesn't exist.

00:20:55.600 They're purely trying to destroy.

00:20:57.640 We live here.

00:20:58.580 Our children live here.

00:21:00.300 Our ancestors lived here.

00:21:01.780 How about no?

00:21:03.780 And that literally will change the whole story.

00:21:07.360 And I have to say, as you look at Europe, because I was unemployed all summer.

00:21:11.980 I took a bunch of trips around the world.

00:21:15.380 Are you really cheering unemployment?

00:21:16.720 Well, I was.

00:21:23.400 And I thought, you know, I can't fish all summer and bird seasons not until October.

00:21:27.380 So, like, I got to get on the road.

00:21:28.360 So I went and visited all these countries and a bunch in Europe.

00:21:33.440 And one thing I noticed was when they have, like, some, you know, political turmoil in France, for example, that affects the farmers or the Netherlands, like, the farmers just kind of show up with their tractors.

00:21:46.660 Or they do.

00:21:47.620 They just change the government.

00:21:48.660 They're in the process of changing the government in Holland because people got out and said no.

00:21:53.100 And I thought, well, wait a second. 0.86

00:21:57.880 I'm old enough to remember when everyone on my side denounced the French as surrender monkeys and, you know, the French are weak. 0.96

00:22:08.620 Really? 0.64

00:22:09.820 No one's doing that here, I notice.

00:22:13.060 And is it a question of our ability to do it?

00:22:16.220 Is the police state in the United States so powerful that people don't dare to do it?

00:22:19.820 Possibly.

00:22:20.500 It is powerful.

00:22:21.220 That's for sure.

00:22:21.700 We live in a police state, obviously.

00:22:24.640 But it's probably more than that.

00:22:26.980 And I think what it really is is that most Americans don't understand the terms.

00:22:30.560 We've never had political volatility here at this scale, ever.

00:22:33.720 Things have been absolutely fine since, well, Appomattox in 1865.

00:22:38.140 We've had ups and downs, the Vietnam War and Occupy Wall Street and all this stuff.

00:22:41.040 But, like, there hasn't been a moment where 100 million people felt like, wow, they could put me in jail.

00:22:48.620 And we're in that moment now.

00:22:49.920 So it's time to recalibrate what we're looking at.

00:22:54.000 Or else, the humiliation rituals will continue. 0.99

00:22:57.640 And if they continue unabated, how does that end?

00:22:59.660 Ask yourself, honestly, how does that end?

00:23:01.540 If they're treating you like you're subhuman, what are their plans for you?

00:23:05.320 If they won't let you say what you think, they don't consider you human.

00:23:11.300 Period.

00:23:12.780 Free speech is not some abstract concept.

00:23:15.040 Free speech is what delineates a free man from a slave.

00:23:19.580 The slave has to shut up and do what he's told.

00:23:21.380 His opinion is not welcome.

00:23:23.420 A free man, a citizen, can by definition express what he thinks.

00:23:28.260 And there's nothing anyone in authority can do about it ever.

00:23:36.120 A government that cares about you tries to elevate you, tries to make you stronger, more independent, as you would with your children.

00:23:46.740 Any parent who inculcates dependency in kids is killing the kids. 0.99

00:23:54.720 If you're 15 years old, your parents are like, oh, did you have a bad dream? Come sleep in bed with us.

00:23:59.740 If you're 25 and your parents are like, you don't need a job, just live with us.

00:24:03.580 Mom will make you Cap'n Crunch for breakfast. 0.82

00:24:07.160 They're trying to hurt you, whether they know it or not.

00:24:10.020 Anyone who tries to make you dependent is trying to hurt you.

00:24:14.500 Anyone who tries to make you weaker does not have your best interest in mind.

00:24:19.740 And anyone who bombards you with ugliness hates you.

00:24:25.100 And we are being bombarded with ugliness, and we don't even notice.

00:24:30.240 And what do I mean by that?

00:24:31.440 I mean the physical landscape around us.

00:24:34.360 This is the most beautiful country in the face of the earth, and I can say that with some, I think, certainty, having been to many, many countries.

00:24:41.500 We have the best-looking country.

00:24:42.740 And the way things look really matters.

00:24:46.280 If you raise a child in an isolation room, what happens to the child?

00:24:50.660 He becomes completely disabled. 0.96

00:24:53.380 If you love your children, you raise them with lots of visual stimuli and beautiful things,

00:24:57.960 so they will be inquisitive and bright-eyed and cheerful.

00:25:02.300 The uglier you make an environment, the more you oppress the people who live in the environment.

00:25:06.940 And it can't be accidental, because what is beauty?

00:25:09.920 Beauty is truth.

00:25:11.140 The truer something is, the more beautiful it is.

00:25:13.300 The most beautiful things were made by God.

00:25:15.960 Period.

00:25:16.400 The most beautiful things are in no museum.

00:25:24.260 They're nature.

00:25:26.240 They're trees and leaves and grass.

00:25:28.940 They're animals.

00:25:30.000 They're your dog's face.

00:25:30.920 There's no painting in the Louvre that's half as beautiful as your dog's face.

00:25:34.800 That's not a sentimental statement.

00:25:38.720 That's a reflection of fact.

00:25:40.760 And if I'm lying, find one.

00:25:43.060 There isn't one.

00:25:44.920 And all great art is the closest approximation people can get to the things that God made.

00:25:50.560 That's what it is.

00:25:53.820 And the most beautiful thing of all, of course, is people.

00:25:57.020 A person's face.

00:25:58.600 I'd say a woman's face, but opinions may differ.

00:26:02.160 But the human face is the most beautiful thing.

00:26:06.240 So to the extent they deface that, literally deface that,

00:26:10.440 to the extent they make our environment uglier,

00:26:13.400 they're trying to hurt us, and they are serving evil.

00:26:16.840 And we don't take it seriously.

00:26:18.000 I was driving here today.

00:26:19.760 I was driving through Phoenix, which I like.

00:26:21.740 I like Phoenix, actually.

00:26:22.880 And we passed a new mall, new construction.

00:26:25.120 You can't blame the 70s for this architecture.

00:26:27.920 And it was so overpoweringly ugly.

00:26:30.880 It was so aggressively unattractive.

00:26:33.340 It was such an offense against aesthetics that I thought,

00:26:36.560 and I meant it with my whole heart,

00:26:38.820 where's the architect, and why is he not in prison?

00:26:41.740 And I mean that.

00:26:43.740 And if you think that's radical,

00:26:45.780 if you think that's crazy,

00:26:47.060 that someone would be allowed to deface the public view,

00:26:51.960 the landscape we all live in along a highway and get away with it,

00:26:57.440 and we're like, actually, the real criminals were January 6th.

00:26:59.960 No.

00:27:01.000 The real criminals are the ones building dollar stores in your town.

00:27:03.880 I'm sorry.

00:27:04.360 And they could tell you,

00:27:07.980 well, it's really important that poor people have cheap goods from China,

00:27:11.600 and they come in lots of bright colors.

00:27:14.180 Really.

00:27:16.020 That's nothing but degrading.

00:27:17.500 And I also say, just as an ancillary matter,

00:27:19.320 that any economic system that produces that, I'm opposed to.

00:27:21.420 I don't care what you call it.

00:27:22.860 If it increases the amount of ugliness and human degradation,

00:27:26.260 I'm against it.

00:27:27.360 I'm against it.

00:27:28.140 And you can call it whatever you want.

00:27:30.420 And you can call your new economic system whatever you want.

00:27:34.280 As long as it produces a prettier, more pro-human world,

00:27:38.580 I am for it.

00:27:40.000 Period.

00:27:41.740 So why are they doing this?

00:27:44.460 Because they don't consider you human.

00:27:47.040 That's why.

00:27:48.260 It's that simple.

00:27:49.820 You would never treat a fellow human being the way they are treating you.

00:27:53.020 And the last thing I'll say, which I've been thinking about a lot,

00:27:56.640 and this is kind of inchoate,

00:27:57.660 so pardon me if I don't explain it correctly,

00:27:59.320 but I do think we're looking at a very different worldview

00:28:01.760 from the one that we assumed we were looking at.

00:28:05.600 This is not a Western worldview.

00:28:08.140 The goal is to overthrow Western civilization.

00:28:10.380 What is Western civilization?

00:28:11.400 Anyone Wikipedia that recently?

00:28:12.760 It's Christian civilization.

00:28:13.680 That's what it is.

00:28:15.340 And by the way,

00:28:16.400 if I can just say,

00:28:19.380 as a nod to my fairly ecumenical beliefs,

00:28:22.280 you don't have to be a Christian to live in that civilization,

00:28:24.840 to love it, to uphold it, to benefit from it.

00:28:27.860 But we should not lie about where the civilization comes from

00:28:30.220 because it's based on the precepts of a very specific religion.

00:28:32.740 That's called Christianity.

00:28:34.720 And it's very different from the Eastern view.

00:28:37.620 And that's not an indictment of people who live in the East,

00:28:39.680 many of whom I love, the East of the globe, I mean.

00:28:42.720 At all.

00:28:43.320 And a lot of them want to live in a Western civilization.

00:28:46.360 So again, I'm not kind of attacking anybody.

00:28:48.000 I'm just noting that the Western worldview,

00:28:51.000 the Christian worldview upon which Europe and the United States

00:28:54.220 and the Anglosphere, meaning Canada, above us,

00:28:58.140 and New Zealand and Australia,

00:29:01.500 were founded on these ideas.

00:29:03.980 What are those ideas?

00:29:05.260 Well, the core idea is that the individual matters.

00:29:08.320 The individual has a soul.

00:29:09.540 And that's one of the reasons that in Western wars,

00:29:13.440 even in the First and Second World Wars, which were atrocities,

00:29:17.000 and killed more people than anywhere ever,

00:29:18.860 the amount of intentional war crimes is actually,

00:29:21.980 on most sides, certainly on the American side, pretty low for a war.

00:29:25.180 And the way that those civilizations were organized was always around the individual.

00:29:31.000 Maybe you had a king and he was in charge,

00:29:32.960 but it didn't mean he could treat you as a subhuman.

00:29:35.500 He had to have a reason to do that.

00:29:37.320 But above all, it meant that we punished the individual for the things that the individual did,

00:29:42.340 and not for things other people did.

00:29:44.600 Collective punishment is a foreign concept in Western civilization

00:29:48.120 because it's a foreign concept of Christianity.

00:29:49.960 Christianity and the West are open to everybody.

00:29:54.200 They're non-sectarian.

00:29:56.080 And it's not passed on by your blood.

00:29:58.560 It's a choice that you make.

00:30:00.720 And that's the best thing about America.

00:30:03.340 And it's why, as much as I think our current immigration disaster will destroy our country, 1.00

00:30:09.860 I will never stop feeling a lot of warmth for immigrants who, like,

00:30:13.720 love America more than a lot of Americans do.

00:30:15.620 I love those people.

00:30:16.540 And I mean it.

00:30:18.700 Wherever they're from.

00:30:19.680 And that's a sincere feeling.

00:30:22.400 It's amazing.

00:30:23.240 In fact, well, you have to have, well, whatever.

00:30:25.200 You've had a lot of people out here, and some of them weren't born in this country,

00:30:27.800 and they're, like, the most articulate defenders of our system.

00:30:30.080 But the core of our system is that it revolves around the individual

00:30:33.620 because the individual has a soul.

00:30:35.920 He is not just part of a group.

00:30:37.360 He's not a faceless head in the crowd.

00:30:40.440 He's a human being because God created him.

00:30:43.600 Our leaders don't feel that way.

00:30:45.540 Our leaders group us into large groupings. 0.76

00:30:48.780 You're black, you're white, the dreaded white, you're Hispanic, Asian, trans, gay, straight, whatever. 0.90

00:30:55.100 These aren't individuals. 0.99

00:30:57.960 These communities.

00:31:00.340 No woman ever gave birth to a community. 1.00

00:31:02.340 These aren't real.

00:31:05.940 Yeah, she may have.

00:31:07.400 Don't bait me into a mean joke.

00:31:12.480 These are categories that, by their nature, dehumanize us and deny the primacy of the human soul.

00:31:19.000 So there is no history of collective punishment in the United States.

00:31:24.440 Where is there?

00:31:25.180 Well, in the East, in Russia, in China, in North Korea, where it's, to this day, considered normal to arrest the person for the thought crime

00:31:37.700 and then to arrest his children and parents because they're all in the same family.

00:31:40.820 So they're punished as a group.

00:31:43.360 That concept cannot exist here.

00:31:46.200 And if it does, we are not America.

00:31:50.180 You are responsible for what you did.

00:31:53.740 Not for what your parents did.

00:31:55.120 No matter what they look like.

00:31:56.600 No matter what class they belong to.

00:31:58.600 We don't have Kulaks here. 1.00

00:32:01.420 People throw in the term Kulak.

00:32:02.540 What was a Kulak? 0.93

00:32:03.140 Well, I mean, it was someone of the bourgeoisie.

00:32:07.520 Usually an agricultural.

00:32:09.100 Farmers with more than two cows.

00:32:10.460 Okay?

00:32:11.880 But the idea was they weren't just sinful because they had more than two cows.

00:32:15.560 They were sinful because their parents did too.

00:32:18.500 And their neighbors did too.

00:32:19.840 And they were punished collectively.

00:32:21.620 Nothing like that has ever happened in the West.

00:32:24.140 In no country in the West.

00:32:25.460 For all the bad things that, say, Belgium, which I love to beat up on, has done. 1.00

00:32:30.140 You know, they actually were a pretty crappy colonial power.

00:32:33.220 They never inflicted collective punishment. 0.98

00:32:36.380 Because Christians don't do that. 1.00

00:32:37.740 But you are seeing a leadership class in this country, on both sides, who is starting to think that way.

00:32:46.740 And that is a massive threat to you.

00:32:51.140 So just remember, what threatens you is not a political movement.

00:33:00.080 It's a spiritual movement.

00:33:01.480 The plan can only end in true sadness and tears and weeping and gnashing of teeth.

00:33:13.580 There's no happy ending to the story that they are telling.

00:33:17.400 And the third and most important thing is that you can only fight back.

00:33:22.540 In fact, maybe you can only survive.

00:33:24.880 Not by changing them, because you can't.

00:33:28.180 But by changing yourself.

00:33:30.860 And by becoming more impressive, more honest, and as a result of that, stronger.

00:33:37.680 Thank you, and I will take your hostile questions.

00:33:39.380 Thank you, and I will take your hostile questions.

00:34:09.360 Thank you.

00:34:10.120 Oh, so...

00:34:11.360 Wait, hold on.

00:34:13.600 I can hear a woman with a microphone. 1.00

00:34:15.960 Oh, she's right there.

00:34:17.660 I was gonna...

00:34:18.520 I didn't see whether you did upper deck or lower deck.

00:34:21.200 Lower deck, baby.

00:34:22.280 Okay.

00:34:22.580 So yesterday, while speaking, Vivek Ramaswamy briefly mentioned the issue of a large influx

00:34:30.420 of illegal immigrants coming to America and how it is affecting our economy and everyday 1.00

00:34:36.020 Americans and everything that we do.

00:34:38.340 And his solution for this was to send back all illegal aliens. 0.95

00:34:42.540 So I wanted to present to you the circumstance that I have seen that has affected me in the

00:34:47.660 state of Texas, where there are children that come here with their families at a very young

00:34:53.060 age when they're not old enough to make that decision to come here legally or illegally.

00:34:57.880 So while they're here, they're subject to the jurisdiction of the American government

00:35:01.620 under public education systems.

00:35:04.660 They receive their education here, and they are influenced by our culture here.

00:35:08.720 And this is the only language and experience that they have in society.

00:35:13.040 So with them being sent back, it would obviously be detrimental for them.

00:35:17.400 So what is your opinion of this?

00:35:20.420 And how would you handle that situation?

00:35:22.460 Well, I would say just the obvious point first, since they call me Captain Obvious, that

00:35:27.160 whenever you move large groups of people from one place to another, particularly if they

00:35:32.080 don't want to move, there's a lot of suffering.

00:35:35.120 That's true when people come here illegally. 1.00

00:35:37.380 Ask anyone who's made it through the Darien Gap, you know?

00:35:40.400 A lot of people die. 0.78

00:35:41.800 Most women are raped. 0.99

00:35:42.800 I mean, the whole thing's a disaster. 0.94

00:35:44.100 Mass movements of people are bad, okay, in general.

00:35:47.120 So there's that.

00:35:48.240 If you did that, you would cause some suffering.

00:35:52.700 No doubt.

00:35:53.420 It's gone on too long.

00:35:55.000 On the other hand, I don't really see how we have a choice.

00:35:57.060 Because how can you say you're a nation of laws if people from other countries don't 1.00

00:36:00.580 have to obey your laws?

00:36:01.560 And you really can't.

00:36:04.860 And I really don't know what to say.

00:36:07.580 I mean, if I break the law, or if you break the law, especially now that they found out

00:36:12.300 you came here, you know, you're going to be held to that standard ruthlessly.

00:36:17.920 I mean, I have a friend, Peter Navarro, is about to go to prison for not responding to

00:36:21.880 a subpoena from Liz Cheney and her fake committee.

00:36:25.600 Hunter Biden does.

00:36:26.200 It's like, totally cool.

00:36:26.940 It's Hunter Biden.

00:36:27.340 It's cool.

00:36:28.380 So like, yes, if you want to restore the country to where it needs to be, which is

00:36:33.560 a fair country, fairness is the goal, okay, fairness, which means universal principles,

00:36:39.900 universally applied, then you have to be serious about your laws and probably need like

00:36:45.080 far fewer laws.

00:36:45.820 We can probably get rid of 99% of laws.

00:36:49.180 I've got a lot of kids.

00:36:50.140 I don't have a lot of laws in my house.

00:36:52.640 You know, can't smoke weed at the dinner table or whatever, you know, like the obvious

00:36:55.720 ones.

00:36:56.140 I don't need a law for that.

00:36:59.040 So anyway, the point is you degrade your country and its justice system when you allow tens 1.00

00:37:04.080 of millions of people to break the law without punishment, okay?

00:37:06.800 The second thing I just know from traveling a lot is that I'm not sure how it helps any

00:37:12.300 country to have its most ambitious people leave.

00:37:14.680 And the funny thing, if I can just say, about American liberals is they're so convinced that

00:37:18.820 their system is superior.

00:37:19.700 They're like, well, you know, of course, anyone living here in some depressing suburb

00:37:24.640 of Houston on food stamps has a much better life than someone in El Salvador. 1.00

00:37:29.040 Well, actually, I've been to El Salvador a lot.

00:37:30.360 It's pretty great.

00:37:31.720 And I'm not convinced it's the worst place to raise your kids right now, to be honest.

00:37:35.160 But more to the point, how is that compassionate?

00:37:39.220 Syria had a civil war and like almost every single doctor in Syria left and went to the

00:37:42.880 West.

00:37:43.560 Oh, a new life for the doctors.

00:37:45.140 What about people who still live in Syria?

00:37:46.300 They don't have any doctors.

00:37:47.660 And if you talk to anyone who runs one of these so-called third world countries, some

00:37:51.180 of which are pretty nice, I got to be honest.

00:37:53.000 They're a lot better than downtown LA.

00:37:55.600 We're always like, oh, it's so third world.

00:37:57.200 Really?

00:37:58.100 They have none of that in El Salvador.

00:37:59.860 None.

00:38:00.760 There's no one on the street.

00:38:02.060 They have families.

00:38:03.460 It's embarrassing to have your relatives beg.

00:38:05.760 They have no murders.

00:38:06.800 Like the third world is not.

00:38:08.660 I mean, everyone should visit just like give you a little bit of perspective on, say, Baltimore.

00:38:12.960 But if you talk to people who run these countries, they're like all the people with the most

00:38:17.980 ambition take off.

00:38:19.200 Like that's terrible for us.

00:38:20.840 We're losing a whole generation. 0.62

00:38:22.120 The brain drain is real.

00:38:24.200 And so like, why doesn't, you know, if I think most immigrants now are not from Latin

00:38:28.720 America, they're mostly coming from Africa and the Middle East, some from Asia.

00:38:32.860 But I don't know how that helps Liberia or more likely Nigeria for everyone to come 1.00

00:38:39.300 here.

00:38:39.720 It definitely doesn't help us at all.

00:38:41.420 And there's no justification for it economically at all.

00:38:44.120 And by the way, this country is so big and so spread out that most people have no idea

00:38:49.560 what's going on in it.

00:38:50.860 But I would just, I honestly, if you have a free day, drive 500 miles in one direction,

00:38:56.940 stay in a motel and drive back and tell me what you see.

00:39:00.140 Is that the country you remember? 0.74

00:39:01.500 There's garbage on the side of the road.

00:39:02.680 There are people living in the bathroom at the hotel.

00:39:04.900 Really?

00:39:06.500 It's scary.

00:39:08.180 Like, how did that happen?

00:39:09.200 And how do we know it was, why didn't we know it was happening?

00:39:12.620 So I just think we're in an actual crisis.

00:39:15.140 I think if we deported a single person, it would be sad for that person probably, but we

00:39:20.300 don't have a choice.

00:39:20.860 Yeah, Nikki Haley.

00:39:23.140 No, Nikki Haley isn't real, as I told you at the outset.

00:39:26.600 She literally isn't real.

00:39:27.680 You've never seen her walk by a mirror.

00:39:28.980 The whole thing's a hologram designed by Republican donors.

00:39:33.200 By the way, I would just, the marvelous thing about Nikki Haley is she gets so much attention

00:39:36.140 on television.

00:39:36.840 She's, I hear, I don't have one, but apparently she's on television like every commercial break.

00:39:40.480 When we come back, Nikki Haley.

00:39:42.760 And like, there's not like 27 Republican primary voters who aren't billionaires who

00:39:47.840 support her program.

00:39:49.320 It's insane.

00:39:50.680 She's running on things that are completely irrelevant to Republican primary voters.

00:39:53.860 Just look at the polling.

00:39:55.620 And yet she persists.

00:39:56.980 You don't want to live in a society where every politician has to have a personal billionaire

00:40:00.780 backing his campaign.

00:40:03.260 Where every cultural movement has to, because what is that?

00:40:06.320 That's an oligarchy. 0.96

00:40:08.640 And do you want to live in one?

00:40:11.060 That's Russia, right? 0.88

00:40:12.160 Russia, it's an oligarchy.

00:40:14.220 Okay.

00:40:14.740 They don't have freedom of the press.

00:40:19.080 Yes, sir.

00:40:20.520 Hi, I'm Jaden Rodriguez, more commonly known as the Gadsden Flack Kid.

00:40:26.040 I'm going to say it again, okay?

00:40:28.980 And I wanted to ask you again, just a few questions.

00:40:33.360 Hit me, baby.

00:40:33.840 Would you consider, um, consider doing, like, kids programming?

00:40:38.180 And if so, would you hire me?

00:40:42.060 Absolutely.

00:40:42.880 But you'd have to be our CFO.

00:40:46.140 Okay.

00:40:47.480 And also, would you consider being vice president for Trump?

00:40:56.760 It's funny you ask.

00:40:58.520 Yes.

00:40:58.580 Yes.

00:40:58.640 Yes.

00:40:58.700 Yes.

00:40:59.080 Yes.

00:40:59.200 Yes.

00:40:59.640 Yes.

00:40:59.700 Yes.

00:41:00.700 Yes.

00:41:01.200 Yes.

00:41:01.700 Yes.

00:41:02.700 Yes.

00:41:03.700 Thank you for asking me, Jaden.

00:41:10.180 And it's funny that you paired those two questions together because they have the same answer.

00:41:15.500 So you asked, would I ever consider doing kids programming?

00:41:18.560 And would I consider entering politics?

00:41:21.240 And there's a phrase in Western Maine that I just love.

00:41:24.900 I don't know nothing about that stuff.

00:41:27.260 That's the phrase.

00:41:28.140 And I feel that way.

00:41:29.880 I feel like there's this weird temptation for people when they, like, do something for,

00:41:34.560 I mean, I've done the same job literally for 32 years.

00:41:37.080 So, you know, and you get good at something if you do it enough.

00:41:40.160 You know what I mean?

00:41:40.640 That's why you want to go to the knee doctor who does it eight times a day. 0.99

00:41:42.840 And if you, you know, get to middle age and you're like, oh, I've been, you know, relatively successful in my own stupid field. 0.99

00:41:51.160 I'm good at this. 0.91

00:41:52.200 I think I'd also be a great landscape painter or hip-hop artist or movie producer.

00:41:56.760 You've got to shake yourself and say, no, actually, that's a very recognizable syndrome that afflicts mostly men,

00:42:03.020 but also Nikki Haley, who may or may not be real, which is called hubris.

00:42:07.660 Hubris.

00:42:08.460 And hubris means the belief that you are God and that you're somehow good at everything.

00:42:13.900 And I don't believe in that at all.

00:42:15.520 And I check that impulse in myself on a daily basis.

00:42:18.020 I'm a talk show host.

00:42:19.040 That's what I do. 0.99

00:42:19.560 And I talk about the world and my dumb ideas and politicians and the hijinks that they're up to. 0.99

00:42:29.780 And I fulminate and scowl and stare blankly into the camera. 0.98

00:42:34.640 And, you know, I enjoy doing that.

00:42:36.820 I think I'm pretty good at it.

00:42:37.740 How could I not be?

00:42:38.440 It's all I've ever done.

00:42:39.940 But one thing I have never done, probably not very good at, is making children's programming.

00:42:46.100 I have a lot of children.

00:42:47.760 Didn't allow them to watch TV, so I have no idea what kids watch.

00:42:51.420 And politics, well, I've followed it all my life, of course.

00:42:55.980 With every passing year, I become more repulsed because it becomes ever more repulsive.

00:43:00.960 And I don't just mean the system, just to be totally clear on this.

00:43:03.460 I don't just mean the system of politics.

00:43:05.300 I mean the actual people who participate in it because I know them personally.

00:43:09.980 And with some, with real exceptions.

00:43:12.100 I mean, I have a couple of friends in politics, amazingly.

00:43:14.520 But in general, I think they're probably the worst people in our society.

00:43:19.200 And there's got to be a name for this. 0.76

00:43:20.960 A country of great people run by the worst people.

00:43:23.820 It also describes the U.S. military.

00:43:26.020 The best people led by the worst.

00:43:28.200 And I honestly, I don't think I could be around that.

00:43:32.140 I mean, I think it's absolutely important, maybe like historically important, for Trump not to be stopped by this totally immoral, country-changing political vendetta.

00:43:43.780 You cannot use the Justice Department to knock the frontrunner out of the race on fake charges.

00:43:48.860 Period.

00:43:51.340 And if you allow that, you're done.

00:43:53.260 Okay?

00:43:53.600 So there's that.

00:43:54.820 And you also can't allow a political party to choose a senile guy to, quote, run your country when every single person knows he's not running the country because he's senile.

00:44:05.320 And no one's allowed to say so because it's mean.

00:44:09.340 Stop.

00:44:09.960 So I do think that's super important.

00:44:11.760 It's just impossible to imagine myself ever getting involved in something like that.

00:44:15.940 And not because I'm afraid, because I'm not afraid at all.

00:44:19.320 I don't really care what happens to me.

00:44:22.400 And I mean that.

00:44:23.400 I mean that.

00:44:24.880 But because how would I be good at that?

00:44:27.920 Do you know what I mean?

00:44:29.260 I just, I don't think I would.

00:44:30.820 And I also, I think, I mean, I just can't imagine myself at a fundraiser or something.

00:44:35.660 And somebody's like, well, actually, Zelensky is a lot like Churchill.

00:44:40.520 And I just couldn't sit through.

00:44:41.760 I don't care how much money you're giving me.

00:44:43.340 Zelensky is not like Churchill.

00:44:45.220 Okay?

00:44:45.580 Zelensky has tried to get my country where my children live in a nuclear war.

00:44:53.520 And anyone who tries to get my children in a nuclear war is my enemy.

00:44:58.120 And so I couldn't sit through that meal without making Ken Griffin mad.

00:45:03.940 Oh, Ken Griffin, I'm a billionaire. 1.00

00:45:05.240 Oh, shut up. 1.00

00:45:06.140 You know nothing. 1.00

00:45:07.800 And I've watched it.

00:45:09.060 I interviewed a presidential candidate at one point who, like, said, what do you think of Ukraine?

00:45:12.520 Oh, well, I think, you know, Ukraine is a sad regional conflict.

00:45:16.220 I don't think Russia should have invaded.

00:45:17.320 Fine.

00:45:17.780 But it's not in our core national interest.

00:45:19.380 Well, that's obviously true.

00:45:21.480 And Ken Griffin calls the guy up and is like, you can't say that.

00:45:23.800 And he's like, issues a statement the next day.

00:45:25.180 Like, I can't say that.

00:45:26.080 Actually, Ukraine is really important.

00:45:27.740 Zelensky is Churchill.

00:45:29.920 I'm not naming names.

00:45:31.600 But I will say I thought that was disgusting.

00:45:33.940 And I like the guy who did it, by the way. 0.98

00:45:35.540 That's disgusting. 0.99

00:45:36.300 You should be ashamed. 1.00

00:45:37.100 You're a grown man. 1.00

00:45:37.960 And you're taking orders from some moron, some guy who doesn't know anything, who may be good at, you know, investing. 0.99

00:45:44.500 It doesn't mean you're a good person. 0.99

00:45:45.640 It definitely doesn't mean you're wise.

00:45:48.860 Wealth is not a measure of wisdom.

00:45:50.520 And wisdom is all that matters if you're running things.

00:45:53.940 So I just can't imagine.

00:45:55.620 Anyway, one last question.

00:45:56.780 Thank you so much.

00:45:58.200 If I change my mind, I'll hire you. 0.81

00:45:59.360 Yes, sir.

00:46:00.000 It's the last question.

00:46:01.560 Got it.

00:46:01.920 Hello, I'm Jackson Robinson from Lafayette, Louisiana.

00:46:06.200 And I started a Turning Point Club at Lafayette High School.

00:46:09.480 And I have two questions for you.

00:46:11.600 Hit me with them.

00:46:12.480 Would you fully support a theocratical government structure based on the teachings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?

00:46:24.380 You know, of course, I have no idea what that means.

00:46:26.300 I'm so, I don't know.

00:46:31.620 I would say that, I mean, don't even get me going.

00:46:35.720 I left the church that I grew up in over this question.

00:46:40.140 Christianity has to stand distinct from politics.

00:46:43.440 Because when Christianity mingles with politics, Christianity dies.

00:46:47.340 And I've seen it.

00:46:48.500 And watching these churches, many of which I support because, spoiler alert, I'm a Christian,

00:46:54.580 start pushing the vax at the demand of the CDC and others and the propaganda campaigns that individual churches,

00:47:03.340 conservative evangelical churches, inflicted on their parishioners,

00:47:07.540 telling them that Jesus would want them to take this vax, which was not tested longitudinally,

00:47:12.240 I was so offended that I left.

00:47:14.620 And I'm not attacking those churches.

00:47:16.200 I'm sure they're nice people and I think they're sincere believers.

00:47:18.140 But the point is, when you mingle with people who are corrupt,

00:47:22.020 unless you overwhelm them with the truth,

00:47:24.840 if you're even a little bit impressed by their earthly power,

00:47:28.340 even a little bit impressed, you'll be corrupted.

00:47:31.780 And I've seen that happen.

00:47:32.840 It happened to Russell Moore.

00:47:34.520 Runs Christianity, totally corrupted by politics, completely corrupted. 1.00

00:47:38.200 And his impulses are political impulses.

00:47:40.300 They're not Christian impulses.

00:47:42.360 And he's constantly thinking, well, will I offend this or that person in power?

00:47:45.120 And if you think, even for a second, about what your witness, who will be offended by it,

00:47:56.240 you're way off track.

00:47:57.860 You're serving the wrong leader.

00:47:59.200 And so I just, I'm very concerned with any intersection.

00:48:04.840 And I will say, finally, just having traveled a lot, that the death of Christianity in Europe, 0.67

00:48:09.240 which is one of the biggest things ever to happen, it was a Christian continent.

00:48:13.060 And that's only true in Eastern Europe now.

00:48:14.920 In Western Europe, it's totally atheist or full pagan.

00:48:17.620 That happened in part because the church was an organ of the state.

00:48:23.380 And people really came to hate the church as a result of that.

00:48:26.040 And that makes me sad because I like the church.

00:48:28.500 I like churches.

00:48:29.920 I like religious people.

00:48:31.880 I also, to be totally honest, even though I don't share their faith,

00:48:33.860 I kind of like religious people of a lot of different faiths.

00:48:36.820 And when I saw the Hasids in Brooklyn during COVID, 1.00

00:48:40.320 and they're like, we're going to our weddings because that's what we do.

00:48:44.080 And they don't want to fight with the government, but they're like, no, we're going to our weddings.

00:48:46.380 I know you have your little pandemic or whatever, but we're still going to our weddings because we're Orthodox and that's what we do.

00:48:51.400 I was like, you go, Hasids. 1.00

00:48:54.280 Do you know what I mean?

00:48:55.900 Faith gives you strength.

00:48:57.060 That's not my faith.

00:48:58.200 I don't agree with that faith, but I respect them because they do believe their faith.

00:49:03.800 And that's how I feel.

00:49:04.720 So I would just be, I think our country, the last thing I'll say is,

00:49:09.240 I do think that countries like people suffer consequences for immorality.

00:49:13.360 And if your country celebrates it, if it elevates abortion as a positive good, a means of freedom, it's just child sacrifice. 0.80

00:49:20.160 That's exactly what that is.

00:49:21.960 And mutilating children, discarding children, promoting prostitution, selling people's bodies. 0.62

00:49:28.800 What? 0.84

00:49:29.200 I think you suffer consequences.

00:49:31.940 I think there's a lot of evidence that you do.

00:49:33.860 And again, I'm not a theologian.

00:49:34.880 Don't ask me if the end times, I have no idea.

00:49:37.040 But that is a very dangerous thing to do and we are doing it.

00:49:41.180 And so is theocracy the answer?

00:49:42.960 I don't know what that means, but I don't want the government anywhere near my church and I mean it.

00:49:46.300 Thank you.

00:49:49.340 Thank you.

The Tucker Carlson Show - December 20, 2023

Tucker speaks at AmericaFest

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