TX Gov. Greg Abbott ⧸ TX A.G. Ken Paxton ⧸ Dr. Pete Chambers
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The Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration is legally allowed to open the border by force to cut down razor wire along the Rio Grande sector of the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas . The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, drafted a letter, not simply to the administration, but to the world . Abbott says the state of Texas has the authority under the Constitution to, quote, protect itself .
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On Monday, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Biden administration
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is legally allowed to open the border by force to cut down razor wire along the Rio Grande sector
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of the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas. The usual suspects voted for this, Sonia Sotomayor,
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Elena Kagan, Kentaji Brown Jackson, but they were joined by so-called conservative justices,
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John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett. So in response to this ruling, which shocked many,
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the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, drafted a letter, not simply to the administration,
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but to the world. And here's part of what it says. Under President Biden's lawless border policies,
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more than 6 million illegal immigrants have crossed our southern border in just three years.
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That is more than the population of 33 different states in this country. This illegal refusal to
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protect the states has inflicted unprecedented harm on the people all across the United States.
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Abbott goes on to say the state of Texas has the authority under the Constitution to,
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quote, protect itself. That authority is the supreme law of the land, and it supersedes any
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federal statutes to the contrary. And then, following very quickly, 25 other states with
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Republican governors signed a letter pledging their support to Texas and its constitutional right
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to defend itself and this country. Those states include Ohio, Florida, Utah, Nevada, and many
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others. And then the Biden administration responded. The administration threatened these states,
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and particularly Texas, with a, quote, 24-hour deadline to allow Border Patrol to reopen the border
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and to take down the barbed wire. Clearly a collision course. What happens next? We're thankful to be
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joined now by Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, who joins us by phone from India. Governor Abbott,
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thank you so much for joining us. If the administration declares that it plans to federalize
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the National Guard of the state of Texas, your National Guard, what will be your response?
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Well, first, I'll be shocked. That would be a boneheaded move on his part, a total disaster.
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But for one, as you might imagine, we are prepared in the event that that unlikely event does occur to
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make sure that we will be able to continue exactly what we've been doing over the past month,
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and that is building these barriers, whether it be the Constitutional Wire or other anti-climb border
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barriers. Whatever we've been building, the Biden administration is now trying to attack us
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because of it, and we will continue to do exactly what we're doing to expand our denial of illegal
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With state employees, I assume, not with National Guard. But can you envision a scenario in which you
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would put armed state employees on the border instead of the National Guard of Texas?
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We do have other armed state employees on the border as we speak right at this minute,
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and there's the Texas Department of Public Safety, as well as other law enforcement officers,
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as well as National Guard from other states. And you can be assured there will be more National Guard
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from other states and more law enforcement officers within the state of Texas and other states.
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And, Tucker, I just signed a law, a new law in the state of Texas that will go into effect on March
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the 5th that authorizes any law enforcement officer in the state of Texas to be able to arrest anybody
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Have you spoken to the president or anyone from the Biden White House about what appears to be
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I have not, to be clear. I have spoken to the president about the border.
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I met him on a tarmac in El Paso and talked to him directly about what was going on.
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I handed him a letter that had in it immediate solutions he could take that would immediately
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secure the border without the need of any new law to be passed.
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Despite the fact that I handed him on altogether eight different letters, he has refused to ever
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respond. My point in telling you that we have laid down the precursor of what's called Article
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4, Section 4 of the United States Constitution to show that we have been invaded and we have
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demanded support from the president to safeguard our state, and they have refused to do so eight
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times. And that authorized me to declare an invasion under Article 1, Section 10 of the
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Constitution to make sure that Texas is going to be able to use every tool in our arsenal to defend
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our state. Of the couple of dozen Republican led states who pledged support for you, how many do
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you think would send National Guard to Texas? I'll be shocked and disappointed if almost all of them
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do not send. There have been about 10 so far that have sent National Guard or other law enforcement.
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They now are joined together with us. And this is a fight for the future of America,
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and they all know it. And so I believe that they will all be in on December.
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It's just a remarkable moment. And I know you're heading out, but my final question is,
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how do you see this resolving? What happens next?
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Well, Texas is going to continue to expand the border barriers that we are erecting,
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the razor wire that we're putting up, and to continue to gain control of more land over the coming
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months. I believe, however, that this will all come to an end on January the 20th of next year,
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because I believe a new president will be sworn in, a president who will actually enforce the
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immigration laws of the entire country, not just the Texas border, but New Mexico and Arizona and
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California and the Canadian border also. And we will have safe and secure borders once again,
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because we will have a president who actually will enforce the laws of the United States of America.
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But in the next year, are you concerned about any kind of conflict between state forces,
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whether state employees or National Guard and federal forces?
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So, Tucker, all we can do is be as prepared as possible, deploy as many people as possible,
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do as much as possible to put up more border barriers, and deny illegal entry. And our head is
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down. We're working hard, regardless of what the Biden administration is doing.
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Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, joining us now from India. Thank you very much, Governor.
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The state of Texas appears to be on a kind of collision course with the Biden administration,
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with the federal government over the southern border. Can it be protected, or must the invasion
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continue? The Supreme Court has waited on this to some limited extent, but it hasn't solved the
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problem or answered the question. So what happens now? Things are moving very quickly. And it seemed
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like there was no one better to tell us what the future may hold than the Attorney General of the
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State in Question, Ken Paxton, who joins us now. Mr. Attorney General, thank you so much for coming on.
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So that's the question. Where does this go? It seems like there are two large forces speeding
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toward each other. No one's swerving. What happens, do you think?
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You know, I don't think anybody knows exactly what happened, because we're in uncharted territory
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where we have a federal government that has largely not just ignored federal law, not just
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ignored their constitutional role to protect the state and the country. They're actually participating
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with cartels and bringing people here as fast as they possibly can. I just don't think we've ever
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seen anything like this in our country, where we have a federal government not just not doing their job,
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but affirmatively working with bad people to do bad things to the country. I just,
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I don't remember anything like this. So can I just ask you to stop there? Since you're a law
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enforcement, you're the chief law enforcement officer of your state, can you assess whether what the
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Biden administration is doing now is strictly speaking criminal? Are they breaking the law in
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how they're handling the border? I think they are. I mean, they're taking federal law and
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dismantling it. He has a constitutional duty to implement what has been put in place
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And he's just not doing that. And he's making up his own rules as we go that allow the cartels to
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gain a foothold, a really strong foothold in the United States, not just in my state,
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but really across the, they're building a network across the country so that they can keep doing this
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well after Biden's gone. So just to like the next few days or weeks or months or who knows,
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the Biden administration has effectively threatened your state and said, you've got 24 hours to do
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something. What are they demanding that you do? And where does this go short term? Do you think?
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You know, I'm not, I'm not exactly sure what we're supposed to do. I mean, is it,
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we're supposed to let them help them cut down wire and fences. We weren't ordered to do that by
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anybody that, that, that I know of. And so we have no obligation to help them violate federal
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law and we're not going to do it. And I don't think Abbott's going to give in. I certainly don't
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plan on giving in. So they're pushing us to help them and we're not going to help them violate
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federal law. We're going to try to defend our border the best we can with the resources we have.
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And, you know, my job is to do it in court. Abbott has other resources at his disposal and I hope
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he uses every single one of them to stop this. He, the governor, Greg Abbott, told us this morning
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from India that there are at least 10 states that have sent National Guard to Texas. Has there,
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is this, something like this ever happened in the last, say, hundred years that you're aware of?
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I know that they've sent different states. I know Ron DeSantis has sent troops and I believe
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Ducey, when he was in office, sent troops. But nothing to this scale, nothing since the Civil War
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that I know such a conflict has existed between the federal government and the states. This is really
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new territory for us. I think it's new territory for anybody living because we have not seen this type
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of conflict between the federal government, basically ignoring all of their duties. And I can't even
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imagine actually Texas, when it became into the union, agreeing to come into the union if they
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knew that the federal government wasn't going to defend the border. That, that would have never
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happened. I'm not sure there would have ever been a constitution that was joined by states if they
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ever thought that the federal government wasn't going to defend them. And if they didn't, they couldn't
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do any, that states couldn't do anything about it. That doesn't make any sense.
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Right. They didn't ever imagine that a dictator president would decide to change the population
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to win elections forever. I don't think that even entered their minds. So what would happen
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if Biden decides to, quote, federalize the National Guard of Texas?
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Look, he can do that. Any president can do that. I think that that pretty much ends his election
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possibilities. Not that they're that good now anyway, but this is becoming the number one issue.
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When you come into a state like Texas that I think people can clearly see, we're just trying to
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protect ourselves from crime and terrorism and a lot of bad consequences. I don't think
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now these liberal sanctuary cities know the same, same problem. They've got just a little bit of
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what we have and they know that this is real. So I think it's becoming more, Americans are becoming
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more aware. And I think if Joe Biden decides to force that onto us by taking over the National Guard,
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I think it's an automatic loss he's done. And so, you know, in some ways, you know, we have to suffer
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with the consequences for a few months if he does that, which I still hope he doesn't. But in the
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end, he loses the election. Absolutely. If he does that. Do you think it's possible that he will?
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I mean, I guess it's possible to know, but what, what would you rate the likelihood?
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You know, I don't know. I mean, I don't really think Biden's thinking about this much. I think
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it's his, his, his handlers, whoever behind the scenes making those decisions. If I knew who that was,
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I could probably better give you an answer, but you know, I, I have no idea what he'll do because
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I don't think he knows what he's going to do. And I, after he's done, I'm not sure he even would
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recognize what he did. So if I knew who was making that decision, I could actually direct questions
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at him or somebody could, I think that would be helpful, but we don't know who's running the
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country right now. Yeah. No, I don't, I've never met someone who could answer conclusively who's in
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charge of the United States. Obviously it's not him. So what does Texas in the meantime plan to do to
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secure the border on behalf of the whole country, by the way, not just your state, but all of us,
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what are you going to do? Yeah, we're fighting for our lives. Uh, we are, we have several lawsuits
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that this one comes back to, to the fifth circuit. So we're back in court on this very issue of them
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cutting down our wire. So it's not over. And I'm still hopeful that somewhere along the way,
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the Supreme court will figure this out and realize the damage that they're, they're creating for the
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states and the conflict that they're allowing between the federal government and the states that they,
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they should just not do. They should require that there, if there's federal law and there's a
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constitution that it be enforced. So, but we have other cases that we're dealing with. We, we've got
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the Shelby park case where we've taken control of that park. And I, I, I think the governor is just
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going to hold onto it. And, and I think we also have this March 5th date looming where we've already
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been sued by the federal government, by the ACLU, because the state has passed laws that go into effect
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in March where we can deport people that are here illegally and we're going to do it. So we've got
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a lot of conflict ahead. We get the Buies case, which is also up at the fifth circuit, which will
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be heard by the entire court, I think in the coming months. So there's numerous cases where the court
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This is uncomfortable. You don't have to answer it if you don't want to, because it's not about you.
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It's about someone you work with, but for three years, the governor of Texas hasn't done a lot to protect
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the country from illegal immigration. I would argue very frustrating to watch. All of a sudden,
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he's taken center stage, and he seems pretty resolved, pretty resolute on this question.
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Is it your sense that this is a genuine change of heart?
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It sure looks like it. I mean, I think just the numerous incidences that we've tried to stop this
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legally, and they just keep changing up what they do. So we'll win, or we'll get some version of
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winning, and then they come back and try something else. So I think he has become ultimately frustrated
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with this. And once he's resolute, I don't think he's backing down. I think he will fight this to
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the bitter end. And he realizes the consequences of us not doing that is we're going to lose American
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lives. We've got kids dying from fentanyl overdoses. We know that we've got people crossing the border
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that are terrorists, and we're not catching them. And we know that we're going to be dealing with the
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cost of this for decades. And it's insurmountable if we let this continue.
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Yeah. So you mentioned a moment ago, the cartels and their role in this. Can you expand on that?
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And I'm not sure most Americans understand the hold that drug and human trafficking cartels from
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Latin America now have in the US. What do you know about that?
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I know that they have become significantly more powerful during the Biden administration,
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because the money that they're making has massively increased from the time that Trump was in office,
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because Trump was doing things like enforcing federal law that actually worked. And a lot of
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people say we need to fix our immigration system. Well, maybe we do, but we certainly need to enforce
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the laws we have. We know that it works because Trump did it. Since that time, the cartels worked
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with the Chinese in importing fentanyl. We've lost thousands and thousands of kids and over 100,000
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Americans to fentanyl overdoses, and they had no idea that they were taking fentanyl. And so
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the challenge that we have in front of us is we have the cartels making 10 to $12,000 a person.
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So the more people they bring into the country, the more money they make and the more they're able
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to build their network. And they're not going to want to give this up when they're making billions
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of dollars on drugs, human trafficking, sex trafficking, other crimes, and importing people.
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I think as they gain power and they gain more assets, that network is getting built out during
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Biden's administration. And the next president, hopefully Trump, is going to get stuck with
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dealing with that. So you're the attorney general of one state out of 50. Merrick Garland is the
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attorney general of all 50 states. If you know this, he must know this. Why has Merrick Garland,
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apart from the obvious answer, he hates America, but why hasn't he done anything about this?
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So this, I think this is a plan. I mean, this is clearly a plan, right? This is a strategy.
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It's just like their election strategies. They have, this is a strategy that started on day one
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when, when Joe Biden said, well, we're not going to deport anybody. And of course he brought people
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in like Merrick Garland who were fine with not enforcing federal law, who didn't care if the
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constitution was, was honored by the president or him. And so their goal is simple. I think they,
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it's, it's two things. They want more votes and this is a way of getting them here. And then they'll want
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to give amnesty and they are bringing them mostly to Republican States. And they also want to hurt
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Republican States. I believe because there are costs associated with this. And right now in America,
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people are voting with their feet. They're leaving California, Illinois, New York,
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and they're going to Florida and they're going to Texas and they're going to Tennessee. They're going
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to Republican States because it's a better life and they don't have to deal with the higher taxes and
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the regulations and they're going to have a better life for their families. And so the Democrats
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realize this, Biden and his team realize this. So part of the, the way of dealing with that is,
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well, let's just hurt Republican States. Let's bring more crime for them to deal with.
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So it's less likely that people want to go there. Let's bring in more costs. So it's,
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they have to have higher taxes to pay for all this illegal immigration that they didn't ask for,
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but the federal government brought to them. So I think it's a twofold strategy,
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harm the Republican States, do as much damage. And if it means some kids die or some people die,
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they are willing to trade that to get the votes and the damage to Republican States.
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And people would say, how cynical, but I'm looking at what they're doing, not what they're saying.
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In the 1980s, when I lived there, California was the richest state, the least corrupt state,
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had the best schools, the best roads. And now of course it's the most corrupt state,
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one party state, and it's unlivable. And immigration did that. No other thing did that,
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just immigration. So why wouldn't that happen in Texas, which has been their goal from the beginning anyway?
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It's going to happen. It's going to happen all over the country. It's in,
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particularly in Republican States, because that's where they're bringing most of the illegals. That
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is the strategy. Fill up the Republican States to deal with the problems, the crime, the costs.
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And then also, Hey, there'll be more voters. They'll have kids. Those people will vote and they presume
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that those votes will go their way. And that's the strategy. Because if you turn this into,
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if you turn Texas and a few other states Democrat, we effectively are California. We have a one
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party system where there's not accountability, there's not competition. There's not a way for
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the voters to change things if the system is rigged so that only one party is in power. And that is
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ultimately the strategy of the Democratic Party, create one party where the voters don't have a choice.
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So I think what you're saying is factually supported. I mean this with respect, I think it's
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very obvious. Why is this so clear to you and not at all clear to say 95 percent of Republican senators
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in Washington? You know, that's a good question. It seems so obvious to me. I don't know why it
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wouldn't be obvious to most of our leadership, but it's true even in Texas. You know, we have a Texas
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House that is cooperating with the Biden administration to do a lot of bad things,
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including trying to impeach me. And I don't understand that either, but they're willing
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individually to, at least in the Texas House, sell out for power, for their own personal
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power, for their own personal benefit. Instead of doing things like protect the state on election
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integrity or the border or participate in things that really matter to our voters, they're listening
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to the House Democrats who are directed by the Biden administration. And of course our speaker ends
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up being elected by House Democrats. So there's a lot of infiltration. The Democrats have
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infiltrated the Republican Party and they've been very smart about it. And even though we're a
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majority state of Republicans, they control the Texas House. And so I don't know if that's what's
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going on in Washington because I don't have as much time to pay attention to it, but it's very clear
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and it should be very obvious to every American, let alone every Republican, that we are moving
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towards a one party system. And that is the goal. Is that the same Speaker of the House in Texas who was
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videotaped drunk in the House? Yeah, he's running for reelection. He's got a really great opponent,
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David Covey, and hopefully that guy will beat him. We're also running a lot of challengers against
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some of these very bad Republicans. And we're hopeful that we'll have a lot of wins, enough wins that
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Dade Phelan won't be Speaker. And we can hopefully have a Republican Speaker elected by Republicans and
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not Democrats. That's where we're trying to go. And unfortunately for the last 15 years,
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the Democrats have, yeah, yeah. That guy, he's, you saw him. I mean, it's clear where his priorities
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are. They're out of control. Yeah. It's like a frat house down there. And not in a fun way.
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Last question. I'm in Texas a lot. I have a lot of family who live there. And people I know who are
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in Texas every day say that it's very obvious just from living there, driving around there,
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that this invasion has degraded the quality of life in the state. Do you feel that?
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Yeah. I mean, you feel it, especially in the large cities, but it's, it depends,
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you can find city, other little cities that were overrun as well. But like, you know, you know,
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in Austin, I have to be there a lot. I live in more of the Dallas area, but in Austin, for sure,
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you see the crime, the fact that I don't really want to be downtown like I used to. I used to be
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downtown all the time because that's where the capital is. And I find myself not feeling as safe
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because I know the crime rates are higher. And part of that is this, this huge problem with
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illegal immigration. That's true. And I think a lot of our major cities here and it's going to get
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worse. And my even bigger fear is this whole thing with these terrorist cells that I believe will be,
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they're being established now because we aren't controlling the border.
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I mean, the schools and hospitals of Texas are paid for by American citizens, Texans,
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for their benefit. How could they possibly handle an influx of people this large?
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Like, what's it like to go to the emergency room in San Angelo right now or San Antonio? What's,
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what's that like? I think especially a lot of these smaller hospitals are going out of business.
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They just can't afford the, the Medicare, Medicaid costs that they're, they're incurring
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as a result of this illegal immigration problem. And I think you're going to see more hospitals go
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out of business. I think, I mean, you saw what happened in New York. They were clearing out of
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school so that, or so that illegals could come to school and the kids that are from there can't,
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can't even go. That's going to be more and more of a problem as these numbers continue
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to increase. We're going to all feel it. And it's just a matter of time before the entire nation
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directly feels this and that's going to continue to grow.
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Yeah. Well, there needs to be some very vigorous response to that because that's the destruction
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of our nation. So I appreciate Ken Paxton, Attorney General of Texas. Thank you for the time and for
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There's not one power center in this country, the media, the government at all levels and both
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parties, big business. There's not one power center in the United States that would like to
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see secure borders. And so of course we haven't had secure borders and now we're being invaded
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and no one's really doing anything about it. So it was just a matter of time before citizens who
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love their country, in many cases who have served their country overseas, decided to get a little more
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active in protecting their country. And that's why we're about to see the take our border back
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convoy. It begins on January 29. Truckers, bikers, anyone who wants to come and protect the United
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States and demand that our government secure our southern border is welcome. They'll be driving
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to Texas and one of the people who will help them navigate that state is Dr. Pete Chambers. Chambers is,
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true to his title, a physician. He's a former Green Beret. He was recently down in Eagle Pass,
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Texas, and here's part of what he saw. Dr. Chambers from Eagle Pass, Texas. Today's the 18th of
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December. We're out here at the point of entry. 5,000 are sitting on the ground right now. It's
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increasing as we go along. Information that we've received says another 7,000 should be processed
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through this particular point by morning. Joe and I have been here many times. Last time we were down
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here we were in uniform and now I'm a civilian and in the army of God. So we'll keep telling truths
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and you need to get this video to your legislators and tell them, in the state of Texas particularly,
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this is out of control. So not surprisingly, Dr. Pete Chambers has been attacked by dying
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legacy media outlets as a deeply scary person because your country being invaded is not scary. It's all
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totally normal. We thought it would be worth talking to Dr. Pete Chambers about what he expects to happen
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with this convoy and his role in it. He joins us now. Dr. Chambers, thank you so much for coming on.
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It's great to be here, Tucker. So what can we expect with this convoy? Can you describe
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what it is and what its purpose is? Right. This is a peaceful assembly. This is what
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we do as Americans. This is how we get, we shed light to a subject. This shedding of the light
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will result in exposing really what an open border policy looks like. Yes. We know that,
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that, you know, we know the problem sets in Texas, but literally I could, I promise you this,
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that 40 miles north of that border, there would be people that will never have heard
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of the border problem because they just watch mainstream media. Yes. And so this is what that
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is about. And so can you tell us the root of the convoy and who you expect to join it?
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Right. So, so right now they're going to be leaving out of on the 29th, uh, Virginia beach,
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which is where the 1607 covenant, the landing, uh, which signified the, uh, John Smith landing in 1607,
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where they play the planet across on the beach and said, Hey, we, this is a covenant to this nation
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to God. Uh, and, and then they're going to leave from there and they're going to go down through
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Florida. They're going to cut across highway 10 through Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Houston into a
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dripping Springs, Texas, where I'll be working out of, and then onto near Eagle pass. Now I'm part of the
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advisory of this. And as I, as I advise, I used to be in that same unit that's down there. That's the
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unit that has a streamer on it from the Alamo. It's very historic Texas unit. And so they are down
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there holding line. And I know those soldiers, I worked with them. I, I, I took care of them as a
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doctor with, uh, operation Lone Star. They're busy. So the, the, the convoy is going to go just a little
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bit shy, just a little bit to the north, really, uh, in a, in an area about 30 miles away in
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Kimado, Texas to a children's camp, a lady, a beautiful lady down there who has taken care
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of orphans and widows. You can't write this stuff in a book. I couldn't make this up, but she was
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overrun. First of all, by the COVID mandates that said, you got to shut down. You can't keep running
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this shelter. Number one, number two, she was overrun by the numbers of volumes of, uh, illegals
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that were coming through her neighborhood, trying to get into her food pantry. And then number three,
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the cartels are a significant presence in that area because that is the end point of
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where they do the end around. So we are looking at the bright, shiny object that is Eagle Pass.
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That's a bright, shiny object. Look here. The droids that you're not looking for, if you will,
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are just to the north, right in that location. And so what, what this is going to do is it could
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bring light to it because we have to understand that there is a constitution, both state and federal,
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and that we have to number one, expose those that argue things in the the Gellian dialectics,
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if you will, of tort law and look at the constitution, which is exactly what this is
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a focus on the constitution. We, the people, that's why we, the people will be riding along
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mama bears, cops, veterans, truckers, uh, and going to that location to bring light. There is nothing
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nefarious about this. There is matter of fact, I am suggesting to them that they, that they,
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and they know this, they know this, that this is a peaceful demonstration. This is, this is how this
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Who's paying for this? I, I assume George Soros is not the private equity oligarchs and the head,
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the hedge fund managers, probably not sending cash to finance this whole thing. Is it self-financed?
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This is self-financed. This is give, send, go. If you go to the take your, take our border back.com
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website, there's a way to find that, but this is unlike what I saw on the border. And I can tell you
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who all the actors are with that. And there would be a longer discussion of where that money comes
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from. Um, perhaps we should, perhaps we should go to Mexico first and drive across the border at
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the point of entry and just say, Hey, we need one of those bags of cash that you've given out to the
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illegal folks. Who's giving those bags of cash out. Do you think that is a, well, it, it, it's many
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different ways, but, uh, sometimes to charities when they do get to the U S side, uh, sometimes UNESCO,
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a UN organization under the IOM, who is going to hand them a card. Really? It's a debit card
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with a phone. And that is funded illegally through, uh, the United States back channels,
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uh, into UNESCO and that money's been, uh, tracked and we know about this. We have the receipts on it
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and, uh, it'll just take time to keep, uh, elucidating those that aren't listening in DC.
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I'm, I'm a little confused though. I mean, if, if you commit an armed robbery and I drive you from
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the liquor store to my house and put you up for the night, I'm an accessory to your crime and I can
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be arrested. If there are UN officials abetting crimes against the United States, why aren't they
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in prison? Why don't, why aren't they arrested immediately? Exactly. And if, and if there are
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people that, that have taken an oath to the constitution who are also in, in that line of,
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of decision-making processes, the U S constitution says this, and this is what I, this is why I know that
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everyone in the government should agree with me, the same oath that I took, they took. If they don't
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follow that, they're either aiding or abetting, they are, uh, treasonous or they are, um, there,
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it is dereliction of duty. So yeah, there's a lot of things that should be accountable. And that is one
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of the things that is, uh, that we're seeking is you gotta shed light on it to get the accountability.
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Absolutely. I'm, I'm really struck as I watch massive protests in Europe against the carbon
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tyranny by farmers, for example, in Germany, that we don't have anything like that here. We haven't
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had a large scale protest against the people in charge since January 6th, over three years ago.
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And that of course was the point of persecuting the innocent that day was to stop future protests.
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And it's worked. Are you concerned that this protest is ripe for subversion by the intel agencies,
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by the Biden administration, and that you'll be persecuted in the way that the January 6th
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protesters were? I'm, I'm not concerned in a sense for personal concern, but I I'm concerned that, uh,
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that a bad light would be shed prior to it already has. Uh, and then, and that's okay that people are
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have a right for that. We fought for that, but, but it's not okay to disparage something that is,
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uh, that has a really peaceful intent, but understand this, that because of comfort in
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this country, sometimes people don't stand up for what they believe is right. And that's a sin of
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omission. That is, that is, that's just as bad as being a perpetrator to me, in my personal opinion.
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So when I took off my uniform and left, and I, and I say this, you know, I'm in the army of God,
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there is no club. I think that they're trying to think there's an army of God who, you know,
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they're going through the books right now, trying to figure out where are these guys at?
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This is just a figurative speech because I don't worry about what man thinks about me.
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I, I adhere to the law and I take care of those that are oppressed. That's what a green braid does.
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And I didn't take off the uniform and just say, well, now I'm just going to go,
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you know, willy nilly, uh, didn't change my, my character. So yeah, I'm not worried about what
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those people think. Let me explain a little story. This is an interesting one. You're going to like this
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in Del Rio, Texas, about a year and a half ago, 17,000 Haitians showed up at that bridge.
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I don't know if you remember them under the bridge and they were very well on the Monday. We were
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right. So I was in the, in the chopper. When we showed up, got on the ground, 50 national guards,
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probably about 25 DPS guys, troopers, and maybe about 15, 20, um, the custom border patrol.
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Now my dog and myself held them off for about 12 hours on the border, just barking,
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right? Because we're getting overwhelmed. But at some point they had to say, all right,
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we've got to let them in. They're just coming across. That was the same time that that horse
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whipping thing, you know, he had the split reins. It looked like he was whipping. He wasn't,
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he was 400 meters away from me. That just was a camera shot. But here's what happens. Now we set
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it up. We've got things under control. We're in a, we're in an operations tent. And, uh, and here
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comes the FBI and they come busting in and I'll never forget it. Lady comes in wearing a, you know,
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Hillary Clinton pantsuit and says, Hey, there's a, there's a white supremacist group out here
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and they're, you've got to, you know, they're on the list. And I said, well, who are they?
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And she said, this particular organization, don't remember. They were there providing, um,
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sandwiches to us guys that were out there working all night and all day. And they were
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actually Hispanic group from, you know, McAllen. So sometimes they might be a little wrong,
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but I think that the danger in this is those media sources that are actively provoking to
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do what's a globalist agenda to separate Americans does that they act on it because it's a story,
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right? But they take the story instead of doing their own homework, they take that and come in and
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try to set the narrative with those of us on the tactical level on the ground. And we just laughed
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at her and said, okay, thanks. Here's the flyer. Go get a sandwich from one of the supremacists.
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To the, to the liberal light white lady mind, you know, everyone they disagree with is white
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supremacist. Um, what, just interested, whatever happened to those 17,000 Haitians
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who stormed our country illegally? Have they, are they back in Haiti?
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Well, senior Mayorkas, uh, he said that that was going to happen. And that's not what happened
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because we follow the tail numbers. The planes went to, uh, they flew out of, some of them flew
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out of Laughlin air force base, which is the United States air force base close to Del Rio.
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Some of them got on buses. The first or second bus that led out of, uh, out of Eagle Pass,
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I'm sorry, out of Del Rio. Uh, they overtook the bus driver and, and disappeared into the periphery of
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Texas. Um, and they, what do you mean they overtook the bus driver?
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They, they used force and stopped the bus driver and got off the bus and took off.
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Then why aren't they in prison? I mean, what is this? This is, I'm sorry to interrupt your story.
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That's, that's no, no, that this is, this is our life down here. This is what we see. It's
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ridiculousness. So for me, I'm not surprised by any of this. Um, particularly that night,
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that video that you played, that was, uh, 18 December, that was ended up being about 12,500.
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But the rest of the story, about 3000, I went to the civic center in San Antonio,
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and that ended up being a job fair for the cartel. So we followed them, we as citizens,
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and figured out what they were doing was the cartel guys would drive up and then they would,
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it was like a hiring frenzy, like something on LinkedIn, but it was there in the civic center.
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And so we are, we are, uh, aiding and abetting an invasion on not only on the border, but every
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state is a border state at this point. It's also, it's hard, just hard to comprehend that no one's
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done anything about this for three years. And it, it'll be a completely different country
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in a decade because of this and not a better one. Let me ask you often hear, um, this migrant
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wave described as quote, military age males. You spent a lot of time there. What, what percentage
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would you say are military age males? That has changed. Um, it predominantly was family units.
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When I was down there a year and a half ago, a year ago, uh, 22nd of May was my last day in uniform
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last year. Um, now it is about 60%. And then I'll just give you the numbers from that particular
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night on December the 18th, about 60% male. This particular group was primarily out of Venezuela.
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But when I get information that comes up to the border, because we have people all the way down
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into the daring gap that report to us, these are just citizens, former military guys. And they tell
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us what's going on. The next wave is going to be Yemenis. Think about this. They're bombing Yemen right
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now. The next thing you do is get displaced persons, just like they did in, uh, hot a lot
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root bond camps in the Syrian Jordan border, but Jordan sent them up through, through Europe. These
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are coming straight to the Darien gap and coming to us. So yes, there are more fighting age males now
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per capita because of the fact that, uh, my, my opinion, most dangerous course of action, most likely
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this is the spectrum. Um, I have to think about the most dangerous and it's to, it's to just
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destable this country, destabilize this country. This is a Marxist technique. This could be mixed
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in with a little bit of Cloward Piven doctrine. This could be mixed in a little bit of Saul Linsky
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to create a need for us to have the government save us. We're from the government. We're here to help
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you. All right. Well, no, because your tweet that you asked out there, I'm going to quote it.
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Where are the Texans? I'm sitting there screaming, we're right here and come and get on a horse and
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we'll show you. But we, the people are going to, are going to expose these things because we have
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to, this is our backyard and there's nothing humanitarian about this, but we have to make
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sure that our legislators understand because I've lost a lot of faith. I still have faith in a few.
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Uh, they have to understand that they have to adhere to that same oath and many of them don't
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have an oath. We've, we've done some FOIAs and found that out as well. It's pretty interesting,
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uh, in the Biden administrations, particularly. So I think most people, and I'm sure you're in
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this group would, would like to live in a country where the government that they hire and pay for
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solves these problems like securing the nation against invasion. Um, but they're not. And so
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citizens are stepping into the breach. Do you have any hope that governor Greg Abbott of Texas
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will change his longstanding policy of supporting open borders and, and really crack down? Do you
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think it's real? You know, the, since I've been on the border, I've done numerous talks on the optics
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and the reality of operation Lone Star since I got out, because I had to start telling the truth
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because I just couldn't stand that what we were doing was 90% optics and 10% reality, uh, in stopping
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anything. Uh, we counted a lot of heads and we apprehended, if you will, the, the numbers on a piece of
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paper. So now there is a constitutionally written document that came out the 24th, you know, not
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two days ago, uh, that is constitutionally driven. I love it, but we have to look at the way that they
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were arguing in court. And this is where I want, you know, the citizens to do their part is to talk to
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A.G. Paxton, who I, I admire. And I've, I've, I've had discussion with and say, you can't use tort law
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in the fifth circuit, uh, amicus brief. Exactly. If you look at the references, they didn't use the
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constitution. They used tort law, case law, and that's never going to fly because the job of the
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federal government is to provide security for this nation period. Once again, I said, we agree
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that the oath is an oath. So if you agree on that, then you're going to be guilty of, uh, treason. If you
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know that this is an invasion, it is, I mean, how many deaths of Americans sometimes, and this is
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going to be ugly, but hacked to death. We've heard of stories that, uh, raped by illegals
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coming in, doing this. How many warrants this invasion? At what point do we say this is enough?
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Really kind of amazing. Uh, let, let last question for you, Dr. Chambers is,
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is your expectation that this will proceed peacefully and will it end here? I mean,
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if Abbott clearly has been committed to open borders in effect, if not in word,
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if he doesn't secure the Texas border, like what happens next?
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Well, there has to be some teeth in this, in this declaration of, of emergency. Uh,
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he hasn't declared emergency, uh, border invasion. That has to be, we have to declare that the cartels,
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actually terrorist organizations, foreign terrorist organizations, transnational criminals.
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And then we have to go after that because until we do that, there's no teeth in this. There's,
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there's none right now. It'll be us standing in the line, protecting our individual properties,
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which we have a right to, but it's not how it'd be. As far as the convoy, it's going to go over fine.
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And there's going to be those naysayers. I'm not worried about that. That's,
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we don't put our worries in that. Yeah. Well, I hope they don't infiltrate it like they did
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January 6th and make you look like terrorists. So Godspeed, Dr. Pete Chambers. Thank you very much