The Tucker Carlson Show - Tyler Oliveira： Exposing Somali Welfare Abuse, Republican Hypocrisy & the Group You Can’t Criticize

00:00:00.000 Thank you for doing this.

00:00:05.540 Thanks for having me.

00:00:06.280 I was just looking through your YouTube numbers,

00:00:08.920 which I don't normally ever do that with anybody,

00:00:10.720 but you're huge.

00:00:12.800 I didn't realize how big you were.

00:00:14.860 You're flattering me, yeah.

00:00:16.140 Well, it's real.

00:00:17.080 Well, you're a lot bigger than me, I'll tell you that.

00:00:18.980 So a lot bigger.

00:00:20.280 So I'm amazed and impressed.

00:00:24.260 So before we get into how you,

00:00:26.500 I think kind of accidentally stepped into this controversy,

00:00:28.860 seat yeah where where are you from how did you start doing this i'm from modesto california um

00:00:35.100 i started doing this with such a verve and relish yeah um meth meth auto theft and what meth death

00:00:42.400 and farming farming uh almonds um a small agricultural town in the central people who

00:00:50.120 are not familiar with uh california ag what's an almond uh i think it's an almond that has yet to

00:00:56.200 fall from the tree. I actually couldn't be bothered. I'm not fully certain. It's an L-less

00:01:01.740 almond. So you're from Modesto. Shake the L out of it, whatever the hell it is, right?

00:01:06.240 I'm from Modesto, California. I went to college for three months, dropped out. I was doing YouTube

00:01:11.400 full-time, sort of accidentally walked into the field of investigative. How many kids in your

00:01:18.300 class at UCLA were doing YouTube, quote, full-time? Was that like a... Not that I'm aware.

00:01:24.260 That was not a major?

00:01:25.220 No, no.

00:01:25.820 That was not a trendy thing to do.

00:01:27.300 How did you decide to do that?

00:01:30.060 I don't know.

00:01:30.700 I just didn't want to go to college.

00:01:31.900 I wanted to get out of there at any cost.

00:01:33.960 God bless you.

00:01:34.600 So I was charging those Lime scooters and then filming videos, and then I just dropped

00:01:38.420 out and left forever.

00:01:41.480 How long did it take you to support yourself or feel like you had a real job doing this?

00:01:46.440 I think about a month into it.

00:01:47.820 Really?

00:01:48.000 I had enough money to subsist.

00:01:49.500 Yeah.

00:01:50.500 Oh, immediately?

00:01:51.480 Yeah, pretty immediately.

00:01:53.100 Amazing.

00:01:53.580 Yeah.

00:01:53.740 Doing what kind of videos?

00:01:55.340 Goofy stuff, Tucker.

00:01:58.780 All sorts of stuff.

00:02:00.880 I sold Big Chungus to GameStop, and here I am in front of Tucker Carlson.

00:02:05.100 You do anything you regret?

00:02:06.840 No.

00:02:07.540 Good.

00:02:08.000 No.

00:02:08.600 So you don't have to say, I was young, I needed the money.

00:02:10.660 There's nothing like that in your background.

00:02:11.700 No, no, I wasn't shaking on a stripper pole.

00:02:14.000 That was kind of what I was asking.

00:02:15.760 Yeah.

00:02:16.820 So then, how did you wind up in this variety of YouTube, like basically doing journalism?

00:02:22.520 Well, doing journalism.

00:02:23.740 Yeah, we're doing a lot of goofy stuff.

00:02:26.880 One day we saw what happened in East Palestine, Ohio,

00:02:29.940 I think about three and a half years ago, maybe.

00:02:32.100 Yeah.

00:02:32.380 There was a train derailments,

00:02:33.920 a bunch of toxic chemicals had leached

00:02:35.840 into the water supply from what I remember.

00:02:38.140 And there's kind of a media blackout at the time.

00:02:40.700 And I saw what happened on TikTok.

00:02:42.780 And I was like, what if we just brought our camera there

00:02:44.900 and asked people questions?

00:02:46.080 Where were you?

00:02:47.320 In Austin, Texas at the time.

00:02:48.940 So we drove, I think, into Ohio

00:02:50.760 and it just started filming people and asking questions

00:02:54.060 and try to figure out what was going on.

00:02:56.140 And then it sort of evolved into whatever we do now,

00:02:59.300 which comprises of basically amateur documentaries,

00:03:02.300 investigative journalism.

00:03:03.860 Wait, so you just, you don't work for anyone but you?

00:03:06.360 No, I'm fully independent, self-funded, always have been.

00:03:09.500 No investors of any kind.

00:03:11.040 Zero investment.

00:03:11.820 It's just you and a couple other people.

00:03:12.920 Me and four or five people behind the scenes

00:03:14.720 putting these videos out.

00:03:16.280 And you're watching TikTok at your place in Austin

00:03:19.180 and you see there's a train derailment

00:03:20.720 in ohio so you get in the truck and just drive to ohio exactly that's the whole thing i thought

00:03:24.960 it'd be an interesting video a i thought it'd be informative and we're trying to sort of mature

00:03:29.000 what we were doing on youtube make it a little more serious because i was becoming what 22 years

00:03:33.760 old i was like i don't want to do goofy nonsense for my entire life what if we did something

00:03:38.420 actually useful so we showed up and people really resonated with it it was informative and valuable

00:03:44.500 And yeah, I mean, there wasn't a ton of news crew there at the time.

00:03:49.020 It was somewhat irrelevant in the news ecosystem, but it was fascinating to me.

00:03:54.980 So we shut up.

00:03:55.220 I remember your video.

00:03:56.620 So that was it.

00:03:57.460 No one assigned it to you while you're scrolling through TikTok and you saw it.

00:04:00.640 Exactly.

00:04:01.220 Just drive there.

00:04:02.120 Yeah.

00:04:02.620 Yeah.

00:04:04.480 I think because I'm so much older and have been in the formal media my whole life, it's

00:04:08.480 just amazing that that's how it starts.

00:04:11.220 Yeah.

00:04:11.440 Weird, right?

00:04:12.400 Well, great.

00:04:13.300 Yeah.

00:04:13.920 It worked out.

00:04:14.160 I mean, this is kind of the,

00:04:15.140 I mean, this is what they told us

00:04:16.200 the internet was going to be.

00:04:17.220 Yeah.

00:04:17.880 Before it became like all porn

00:04:19.400 and bots and sports gambling.

00:04:21.020 Like, you're going to have

00:04:22.100 citizen journalists

00:04:22.980 and people would find out the truth

00:04:25.460 because you couldn't mediate it

00:04:26.940 because it was, you know,

00:04:28.400 live on camera.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, Elon Musk sort of put a name

00:04:29.940 to that idea of citizen journalist.

00:04:32.080 For me, at least.

00:04:32.820 I'd never even heard the term.

00:04:33.980 I didn't even know what we were doing

00:04:35.120 was journalism, so to speak.

00:04:36.860 But I feel like that's what it was

00:04:38.700 and what it became.

00:04:40.140 So when you got to East Palestine,

00:04:41.720 what do you do?

00:04:42.840 We just asked people what was going on, tried to gain access into some of these areas that were closed off, asking these federal agents what was going on, and just tried to sort of paint a picture for what the media sort of failed to present to the broader American audience.

00:04:57.720 I love that.

00:04:58.180 Yeah.

00:04:58.720 It was interesting.

00:04:59.160 It's like the coolest thing you could do.

00:05:00.560 Yeah.

00:05:01.020 So you just see people stay on the side of the road and say, hey, can I talk to you?

00:05:03.640 Yeah, what's going on here?

00:05:05.800 But you never got a degree in journalism from Columbia?

00:05:09.200 No, I don't have a degree.

00:05:10.060 So how did you know how to do that?

00:05:11.620 because we were doing it for sillier stuff prior to this.

00:05:15.760 I'm just making fun of the absurd idea.

00:05:18.660 So I'll tell you how we got it.

00:05:19.980 I was driving these vehicles

00:05:21.440 that looked like Minecraft vehicles across America.

00:05:25.800 And we would go to gas stations

00:05:27.220 and always have these funny interviews

00:05:29.100 with random people at gas stations.

00:05:31.800 And we had this interview with a guy

00:05:34.360 who was telling us about banging his cousin in Alabama.

00:05:38.200 And I was like, what if we took the beauty

00:05:39.900 of what that moment was

00:05:41.360 and just brought it to relevant, important topics in day-to-day life.

00:05:45.380 So we did that.

00:05:46.160 We took this gas station interview concept

00:05:48.700 and sort of brought it over to actually important topics in our everyday life.

00:05:53.920 So here we are.

00:05:54.620 You make the video on East Palestine.

00:05:56.800 If I saw it, it must have been big.

00:05:59.180 Yeah, it took off, and I was like, what if we just keep doing more of this?

00:06:01.220 Did it get a lot of views?

00:06:02.080 It did, yeah.

00:06:03.220 How many?

00:06:04.020 Like three or four million views.

00:06:05.680 Wow.

00:06:06.080 Yeah.

00:06:06.660 At 22?

00:06:07.660 I think so, yeah.

00:06:09.380 Amazing.

00:06:09.740 But for us, it was a validation that this is something people can use and it's informative and it fills in sort of where the mainstream media is not interested in.

00:06:21.080 Well, it's objectively validation of that.

00:06:23.680 I mean, that's exactly what it is.

00:06:25.140 Yep.

00:06:25.460 And it also says something good about the country that people want to know what's happening inside their borders.

00:06:29.980 Yeah.

00:06:30.760 So then you just pivoted right then and decided to do more news?

00:06:34.560 Yeah, we did a variety of news topics to interesting cultural communities, like hard to access communities like the Pedophile Village in Florida.

00:06:47.200 What?

00:06:47.420 We went over there and started interviewing a bunch of pedophiles, asked them how they ended up there, to white supremacist in Arkansas, to black supremacist in, what, Harlem, New York.

00:06:58.880 so just a broad range of interesting people places and things um from political to cultural to just

00:07:05.780 wacky stuff what drove you drove me yeah what was your motive oh just curiosity yeah i thought i

00:07:11.160 was good at it and so let's go for it yeah the right motive yeah there yeah so then you started

00:07:18.140 doing when i first became aware of you um you moved from like the full outliers yeah like

00:07:27.780 the pedophile community.

00:07:29.520 I've never even heard of that before. 0.95

00:07:31.900 And white supremacists in Arkansas.

00:07:32.800 Miracle Village, they called it. 0.87

00:07:33.700 Miracle Village, it's so dark. 0.98

00:07:36.260 White supremacists in Arkansas, 1.00

00:07:37.880 black supremacists in Harlem. 0.80

00:07:39.460 I've interviewed both those communities

00:07:40.920 30 years ago.

00:07:42.340 So that,

00:07:43.980 everyone knows that exists,

00:07:45.220 but they're really so far out

00:07:47.480 on the fringes of American life.

00:07:49.740 But then you start moving

00:07:51.000 closer to the actual news,

00:07:53.900 like what the rest of the news

00:07:55.260 is talking about.

00:07:56.480 Yeah.

00:07:56.680 And you started interviewing Somalis.

00:07:59.000 Yeah.

00:07:59.600 So I think December of 2025, we put out a video on Somalis in Minneapolis.

00:08:04.640 Yes. 0.99

00:08:04.940 Now, keep in mind, to the local news's credit, they've reported on various forms of fraud for years over there.

00:08:11.080 Yes.

00:08:11.380 But there's something about their inability to storytell and package those narratives that it just never took off.

00:08:18.540 There's a talent gap there, yes.

00:08:20.120 Yeah.

00:08:20.480 And just a media misunderstanding, I think.

00:08:22.940 But long story short.

00:08:23.720 What does that mean?

00:08:24.220 They just don't know how to use social media.

00:08:26.440 They're illiterate.

00:08:28.000 Maybe by design or incompetence, I'm not sure. 0.97

00:08:31.020 What do they get wrong?

00:08:32.620 I think they report accurately.

00:08:34.260 In fact, many social media guys often cite their reports.

00:08:38.140 I think they just can't synthesize the information to the actual storytelling, to the packaging, and how these platforms like YouTube work.

00:08:45.800 You're figuring it out, though, I see.

00:08:47.320 I have definitely not figured it out at all.

00:08:49.720 But I think the ability to tell a story works at dinner.

00:08:55.060 it works on cable television and it works on youtube it's like all kind of the same thing

00:08:59.900 can can you synthesize i think that's exactly right you just take the facts yeah and you put

00:09:04.880 it into an order that you think is accurate which is truthful you're not misrepresenting it but that

00:09:09.480 makes sense it's got a narrative structure order of importance too exactly thank you but yeah we've

00:09:14.180 covered tons of topics from all over the country and all over the world but about uh whatever in

00:09:19.120 december of 2025 we did a video on somalis in minneapolis a lot of it was focused on more of a

00:09:24.860 demographic shift, more so than fraud. Nick Shirley then puts out a video, I think a couple

00:09:29.840 weeks later, and it really bursts into the mainstream. He covers this daycare fraud,

00:09:34.700 and this is like the biggest talking point in the GOP. I'm sure you saw, right?

00:09:39.420 Oh, yeah. I live here. They loved it. It was a perfect story, really. He found these

00:09:44.700 leering centers, all this stuff, this blatant retardation, if you will, of people from 1.00

00:09:51.780 Somalia, who can't even spell the word learning, whatever. It becomes part of the mainstream 1.00

00:09:56.120 conversation about these third worlders absorbing welfare benefits, committing 1.00

00:10:00.980 fraud en masse, and everyone hates these people, right? 1.00

00:10:06.320 So most people don't wake up in the morning and decide to feel horrible, exhausted, foggy,

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00:12:18.720 apply. It's back. Can I just ask you to back up? You said something so interesting, parenthetically.

00:12:24.340 You said, I approached it as a demographic replacement question. They approached it as a

00:12:28.220 fraud question. Great. Tease that out a little bit. You saw it slightly differently, or you saw

00:12:34.920 it in bigger terms than they did, I think. Yeah, my focus was just, you take Minnesota, which is

00:12:40.520 land of the vikings right the scandinavian people and now it's becoming you're speaking to a carlson

00:12:45.680 here exactly right now it's home to somalis and i saw the minnesota vikings they put out what a

00:12:52.420 thank you to our somali community or something on twitter the other day so for me it was just an

00:12:57.080 interesting case study of a state in the united states of america that has such generous um

00:13:03.020 welfare programs and is such a generous people that inevitably it attracts um some of the most 0.98

00:13:08.740 opportunistic, parasitic, if you will, population of people from a destabilized country in Africa 0.99

00:13:15.120 that come here simply because of the benefits they'll receive upon entering. 0.96

00:13:19.620 And it became a hub for these people opportunistically taking advantage of such generous people.

00:13:26.280 This is why you've become so big.

00:13:29.720 Because, yes, thank you for saying that, because it is bigger than...

00:13:34.040 The Minnesota thing, too, though, right?

00:13:35.040 It's unique to Minnesota.

00:13:36.200 Well, Maine, which has similar demographics. 1.00

00:13:38.740 overwhelmingly Northern European whites who have no idea what an idyllic place 0.91

00:13:44.860 they have, who hate themselves because they've been taught to hate themselves. 0.80

00:13:48.460 And so to atone for sins they didn't commit,

00:13:50.960 import the most destructive parasitic populations they can find. 0.93

00:13:54.260 Sure.

00:13:55.500 And then sort of revel in the squalor because it's a kind of self-abasement

00:13:59.200 that turns them on.

00:14:00.260 It's sadomasochism.

00:14:01.700 Yeah.

00:14:02.500 The sort of white guilt, right?

00:14:03.860 A hundred percent. 0.93

00:14:04.860 And there's nothing more dangerous to everybody than white guilt. 0.54

00:14:07.560 Seemingly, yeah.

00:14:08.740 It's just interesting that you saw it that way.

00:14:11.100 Yeah, that's how I saw it.

00:14:12.220 Because we've also done videos in Dearborn, Michigan. 1.00

00:14:15.040 Before that was, I feel like you see that every day now, Dearborn this, Dearborn that, about the sort of Muslim invasion.

00:14:21.680 We did a video in Hamtramck, Michigan, which was a predominantly Polish working class town. 0.93

00:14:27.540 And it eventually elected a Muslim majority in the township council.

00:14:32.980 and they voted to ban the gay flag, 0.98

00:14:35.760 which for me was comedic 0.91

00:14:38.000 because they basically invited these people in.

00:14:40.800 They become a majority.

00:14:42.320 They consolidate political power

00:14:44.100 and then vote to deny them the same rights

00:14:46.320 they were afforded.

00:14:47.280 So to me, it was just the most comedic story.

00:14:49.120 Or even more meta,

00:14:51.200 it's like white liberalism drew these people in

00:14:56.860 and their first act is to ban white liberalism.

00:14:59.280 Exactly, yeah.

00:15:00.600 Once they achieve sufficient majority. 0.99

00:15:01.580 One religion supplants another. 1.00

00:15:02.980 Sure. Basically, we were looking for ethnic enclaves doing the same thing as Dearborn, Michigan, or Hamtramck, or Minneapolis. 0.99

00:15:12.400 So I looked up Jewish ethnic enclaves on Google, only to find Curious Joelle. 0.57

00:15:17.220 Let me ask you to pause right there. Thank you for explaining that. That's fascinating.

00:15:21.060 So you're basically interested in exploring the principle that you described a minute ago.

00:15:25.940 Exactly. It was a conversation about the principle.

00:15:26.860 It wasn't a conversation about one. You weren't out to attack Jews or Muslims or Somalis or anyone else.

00:15:31.960 You just want to say, this is what happens when a country's decency is leveraged against it.

00:15:36.660 Exactly.

00:15:37.440 Right.

00:15:37.780 When generosity is exploited en masse and systematically, right?

00:15:42.060 Systematic exploitation of generosity by design.

00:15:45.280 So you still believe in principles.

00:15:46.500 You must be a legacy American.

00:15:48.600 In what respect?

00:15:49.840 Well, you must be from here if you actually believe in a higher principle.

00:15:52.920 Yeah.

00:15:53.180 I'm born and raised here.

00:15:54.920 My mom's side goes way back.

00:15:57.060 And yeah.

00:15:57.580 Yeah. So, may I ask, what kind of response did you get to the videos that you did on these ethnic enclaves in Michigan and Minnesota?

00:16:06.800 Yeah. Praise. Praise and adoration. 0.99

00:16:08.300 Praise. Oh, wow.

00:16:09.280 Right. This is a great, great talking point. Thank you so much for bringing this up.

00:16:13.040 Who liked them?

00:16:14.020 Who praised you?

00:16:14.840 Republicans.

00:16:15.580 Oh, they did.

00:16:16.240 Of course.

00:16:16.760 Of course.

00:16:17.520 Yeah, they loved them.

00:16:18.420 Democrats hated them. Liberal people hated them. Republicans, hoorah, keep going. Expose them all. You know, find even more.

00:16:26.640 Expose all these groups, right?

00:16:29.100 So I was like, okay, sure, I will.

00:16:32.380 Let's do it.

00:16:33.100 Let's keep going.

00:16:34.200 See, okay.

00:16:35.540 Let's keep the fun going, Tucker.

00:16:37.360 Because you believe in universally applicable principles.

00:16:39.960 Exactly.

00:16:40.420 Not just tribal politics.

00:16:41.540 Exactly.

00:16:42.300 The thing above tribal politics, which is principle, which is what the country's founded on.

00:16:46.460 Exactly.

00:16:46.880 Right.

00:16:47.200 Okay, now.

00:16:48.280 So I was like, okay, we've covered plenty of this Islamic ethnic enclaves across America.

00:16:52.840 It would be interesting to find a different group of people that do this. 0.99

00:16:55.800 That's extremely religious and utilizes welfare in similar ways.

00:17:00.600 So I found this village called Curious Shoel.

00:17:04.060 Now, Curious Shoel is an all-Jewish ethnic enclave in upstate New York.

00:17:08.900 At one point, they were the poorest town in America, with 40% living beneath the poverty line.

00:17:14.920 They had the highest fertility rates in America, having 7 to 10 plus kids.

00:17:19.780 extremely high, anomalously high rates of welfare dependency from Medicaid to SNAP, EBT to Section

00:17:27.860 8 housing vouchers. So this is definitionally a parasitic insulated Jewish community I found in 1.00

00:17:34.540 upstate New York. So to me, that was obvious. I had an obligation almost to go there and film a 1.00

00:17:41.180 video if I was filming videos in Dearborn or Hamtramck or Minneapolis. Did you know that

00:17:47.220 that was not allowed i suspected we would we would unveil some hypocrisy especially within the gop and

00:17:55.160 the larger republican tent really for sure but you suspected it i suspected it was to this degree

00:18:02.580 was a little bit surprising but at that point it was not fully confirmed no not at all and no one

00:18:06.280 had tested it yet and i wanted to test the line a little bit yeah because you see so many of these

00:18:12.060 guys on Twitter, cosplaying as these hardliner, principle first guys, America first, weed out

00:18:19.160 all the fraud, weed out all the welfare exploitation. And then when it comes to specific

00:18:23.800 groups, those principles disappear. So for me, I was like, I know this is going to happen to some

00:18:28.720 extent. To what extent? I didn't know. Let's go there and show this. Do you think, I'm sorry,

00:18:34.320 I keep pulling you off track, but this is a more amazing story than I realized.

00:18:38.680 yeah um and i just want to say once again i had no idea how big you were on youtube so um yeah no

00:18:45.120 well the numbers show it's not my opinion they're many times my numbers so thanks for having me i'm

00:18:49.900 so impressed so i just love that you're being rewarded for this but thanks do you think the

00:18:53.340 fact that you didn't go to college allows your mind to stay a little freer more supple less

00:19:01.240 constrained by lies than if you had gone um yeah maybe i'm a little less conditioned than the

00:19:07.620 average person of my generational cohort yeah um no i think i mean to be fair to my my generation

00:19:15.520 gen z yeah a lot of people agree with me gen z is on is on the same boat here um yeah i believe i

00:19:21.660 think they're far more principally consistent than a lot of our political representatives and

00:19:25.940 they're all for it i think um well you know who's not who a lot of these evangelical boomers

00:19:32.720 seemingly i've noticed israel's a hard line and anything um remotely uh indicative of israel or

00:19:39.840 related to israel in any capacity including hasidic jews apparently is off limits jesus

00:19:45.480 doesn't seem to be the hard line for them at all which is a little surprising they'll tolerate

00:19:49.420 disrepair and i'm talking about the leaders i'm not talking about the people at all but as some

00:19:52.820 of the leaders you know you could say whatever you want about we've done videos on corrupt uh

00:19:56.900 Christian megachurches. We've done videos on Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. What's interesting 0.99

00:20:03.840 to note is that most Christians watching the videos we did about corrupt Christian megachurches

00:20:09.660 were highly apologetic for what they viewed to be as an aberration from true Christianity.

00:20:14.800 They were denouncing what they view as a bastardization of Christianity.

00:20:19.400 That's how I feel.

00:20:20.080 Exactly. But for what we found after putting this Jewish video out is that there's almost 0.99

00:20:25.840 like an immune system response of Hasidic, 0.81

00:20:28.880 you know, orthodox, secular.

00:20:31.820 Jews have each other's back

00:20:32.900 was what I took away from the backlash

00:20:35.160 that followed that video.

00:20:35.740 So it's interesting.

00:20:37.560 So tell us, first of all, what did you find?

00:20:39.800 So Kirish Joel is in New York.

00:20:41.980 It's outside New York City,

00:20:43.520 40% below the poverty line,

00:20:46.160 at least at one point,

00:20:47.220 highest birth rate in the country.

00:20:48.140 I'll tell you what I found.

00:20:49.260 What's it like?

00:20:50.220 What is it? 0.79

00:20:51.240 It is reminiscent of a European shtetl, 0.69

00:20:55.220 A Jewish village you might have seen pre-World War II.

00:20:57.960 That's how they described themselves.

00:20:59.940 What I saw was a ton of Hasidic Jews walking to synagogues, praying, and then walking in a hurry, I guess, to another synagogue to pray some more and study the Talmud some more.

00:21:12.880 That's basically all I saw. 0.94

00:21:15.280 People praying and people living off of the teat of the welfare system in many ways.

00:21:20.740 Just to be clear, I've got no problem with people praying or following their religion.

00:21:23.380 I support it.

00:21:24.080 it's the living off the taxpayer part that is too much.

00:21:29.040 Yeah, and to give them credit,

00:21:30.620 obviously there is some level of communal support.

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00:21:38.760 But largely by design,

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00:21:49.820 It is strategic.

00:21:51.520 It is not happenstance.

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00:23:02.720 This is the single biggest debate in Israel and has been for over 20 years,

00:23:06.500 is that there's a huge percentage of the population that lives off the Israeli welfare system,

00:23:11.440 does not serve in the military, and does not add to the economy. 0.82

00:23:14.740 And if you talk to any non-religious Jew in Israel, 0.99

00:23:17.920 it's like the third sentence out of their mouth is, I am angry at these people for this. 0.96

00:23:21.780 So it's not just here.

00:23:23.000 For sure.

00:23:23.420 And a lot of Israelis actually,

00:23:25.200 they would contact me and say,

00:23:27.300 this is an amazing video.

00:23:28.420 We have the same issue.

00:23:30.340 See, maybe that's the one thing.

00:23:31.340 Is that true?

00:23:31.700 Yeah.

00:23:32.320 That's maybe the one thing.

00:23:33.540 I totally believe that.

00:23:35.860 Yeah, it was funny.

00:23:37.020 Israelis were super supportive of it.

00:23:40.100 They're like, this is great. 1.00

00:23:41.180 They're draining the tax system over here. 0.99

00:23:43.580 And apparently there's a demographic ticking time bomb

00:23:47.020 taking place over there to your point, right? 1.00

00:23:49.180 Because they have similar levels of fertility rates

00:23:51.460 and don't contribute economically the same way.

00:23:54.880 And don't serve in the military,

00:23:56.060 which in Israel is a big deal

00:23:57.040 since everybody, male and female serves.

00:24:00.820 So, and they've had an endless series of wars 0.52

00:24:03.240 for 30 years.

00:24:03.900 So you can imagine the bitterness.

00:24:05.540 Yeah, the resentment.

00:24:06.460 Your kids are going off to risk their lives,

00:24:08.480 but your neighbors aren't.

00:24:09.920 For sure.

00:24:10.500 Yeah.

00:24:11.000 So speaking of resentment though,

00:24:12.540 it's the same logic and in the same vein

00:24:14.420 that the average American taxpayer

00:24:17.060 grinding their nuts off right now feels

00:24:19.940 when they're going working a seven to six, right?

00:24:23.220 If you count for the commute to work and back from work,

00:24:26.140 they see where their tax dollars are being spent

00:24:28.260 and they don't feel as if the money they're putting in,

00:24:30.940 they ever get to see coming back out to them.

00:24:32.940 No, of course not. 0.89

00:24:33.640 And how many ethnic enclaves are they funding 0.87

00:24:36.040 to live this totally insulated lifestyle

00:24:38.300 that doesn't benefit them?

00:24:39.460 And that was really what the conversation sparked and became.

00:24:42.040 What was it like as you walked through the community?

00:24:43.880 How were you received?

00:24:45.740 Unwelcoming, I would say.

00:24:47.700 Yeah.

00:24:47.980 Especially with the camera, of course.

00:24:49.260 I think if I was there without the camera, not questioning anything, I would have been tolerated for sure.

00:24:54.980 For those who haven't seen it, what kind of questions did you ask?

00:24:57.680 What do you do for work?

00:24:59.260 How do you afford to have seven to ten kids?

00:25:02.400 You asked that.

00:25:03.080 Yeah.

00:25:03.900 Hey, what do you do for work?

00:25:05.360 I study.

00:25:06.320 I study Torah.

00:25:07.440 Okay.

00:25:08.020 How do you afford seven to ten kids?

00:25:11.540 God.

00:25:12.620 And I would be like, what about the American taxpayer?

00:25:15.220 And they would say, that too.

00:25:16.180 so i'm like of course that too was there any gratitude that you discerned

00:25:22.980 to the american tax me asking these questions no they say no god bless america for god i think it

00:25:27.300 was not for america i mean maybe there is some sure you didn't hear it though uh i didn't feel

00:25:33.460 it no no um wow what about local politicians they must know this right i mean oh for sure

00:25:40.740 they're beholden to these people though uh they're beholden to the jewish voting bloc that exists in

00:25:46.020 these concentrated Jewish communities in New Jersey and New York. So we haven't established

00:25:51.860 the importance of the Jewish voting bloc in states like New Jersey and New York.

00:25:56.880 Obviously, local politicians are aware of this. Even Donald Trump's aware of this. He put out a

00:26:02.120 tweet saying, you know, thank you so much to Lakewood, New Jersey, the Orthodox community

00:26:06.380 in Lakewood, New Jersey. There's some tweet he put out thanking them in 2024. And they're one

00:26:14.340 of the most powerful voting blocs because of their consistency. They always show up and they

00:26:18.960 always vote on behalf of whatever the rabbinical leadership tells them to. So if they say,

00:26:24.800 vote for this guy, they consistently show up on behalf of that candidate. There's no partisan

00:26:30.320 loyalty. They'll shift from Democrats to Republicans, as long as the benefits outweigh

00:26:35.440 one party over the other. So they're the perfect voting bloc. No one wants to stop their gravy

00:26:41.700 trained for fear of losing their votes. So democracy has been literally subverted or hijacked

00:26:48.520 here. Yeah. Seemingly in exactly the same way it has been in Lewiston, Maine and Minneapolis,

00:26:54.220 Minnesota by the Somalis. Yeah. Seemingly an organized group, a small organized minority 0.91

00:26:59.760 can disproportionately impact everything. Could you have these communities without

00:27:07.620 public without welfare? No. Actually, you could. The Jewish community would not because they're

00:27:15.280 so dedicated to studying full-time, spending so much time praying, etc., etc. Although there are 1.00

00:27:20.720 precedents for that being possible, which I always bring up the Amish community. They're 1.00

00:27:25.180 self-sufficient. They're fully reliant on their own sweat and toil. It can be done.

00:27:29.980 So the Christian community pays for itself. 1.00

00:27:32.300 Exactly. 1.00

00:27:33.640 Okay, but the others don't.

00:27:35.300 Seemingly not. 1.00

00:27:36.060 So the Amish, this is a dumb question. 1.00

00:27:38.600 I just assumed I knew the answer, but it sounds like you really do. 0.99

00:27:40.780 The Amish are not on welfare.

00:27:42.060 They're not living.

00:27:42.380 No, no.

00:27:43.340 They are philosophically opposed to taking welfare.

00:27:46.260 They do not want to take any welfare.

00:27:49.220 They find it as shameful as most people probably should, right?

00:27:53.160 Because it's a safety net to reduce poverty and not a way of life.

00:27:59.180 Not a strategy for maintaining a lifestyle of having seven to ten kids when you can't afford to otherwise, I think.

00:28:06.060 Of course not, right? Especially in a country that has no state religion, that isn't allowed to support theocracy. I mean, speaking for myself, I think I'm reflecting the Constitution. I absolutely think the Orthodox should have a right to any kind of religious practice they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone. And same with the Somalis, same as the Muslims in Michigan, same as the Amish in Pennsylvania.

00:28:30.660 But the idea that taxpayers would support someone else's religion is not allowed, right? 0.53

00:28:37.480 And it's even funnier for me because for some of these groups, there is outward hostility, right? 0.96

00:28:41.540 You take some of these, I would argue these Orthodox Jewish groups, there is in fact hostility when we were there asking people questions, asking them what they do for a living, how they get their money, how they afford their little society. 0.96

00:28:53.300 There is hostility. 1.00

00:28:54.840 So for me as a taxpayer, it's like, we're going to take your money. 0.98

00:28:57.920 If you question it, you're anti-Semitic and we hate you.

00:29:02.340 What was anti-Semitic about it? 0.65

00:29:05.360 The ADL said it harkened back to anti-Semitic stereotypes of them being a drain on society or something like that. 0.99

00:29:13.240 When it's all statistically corroborated, I'm not pulling these out of my ass. 0.99

00:29:18.080 These are welfare stats I was quoting. 0.98

00:29:20.240 And then I would go to the direct source asking these people, what do you do for a living?

00:29:24.480 How many kids do you have?

00:29:25.720 How do you afford your kids?

00:29:26.700 Are you on welfare?

00:29:27.920 how is that anti-semitic why do they get their own brand of uh their own proper nounage of racism

00:29:36.140 that never made sense to me i agree it's odd right it is odd it's weird yeah it is odd um

00:29:43.140 ah i haven't thought too much about that but i think that's you make a fair point um how is it

00:29:47.560 how is bigotry against one group different from bigotry against any group and of course if you

00:29:53.400 believe in absolute standards it's not it's all the same it's all varieties the same thing um but

00:29:59.260 if you believe that only one group should be immune from criticism then you're not against

00:30:03.820 racism of course you're an advocate of racism sure right you're arguing a kind of supremacy 0.70

00:30:08.100 yeah jewish supremacy yeah or or any kind i mean any kind you know if you can attack in this case

00:30:13.260 anyone but white episcopalian men everyone else is fair game what other group can you not discuss

00:30:18.740 though right i don't know you can disrespect christianity with without any flack um you can 0.93

00:30:24.640 disrespect islam legally they might kill you for it and seemingly with jews um or at least some of 0.96

00:30:31.040 these groups of jews um the legal fair may begin um you might get deplatformed or pulled off some 0.95

00:30:37.560 sites so so what happened okay so what happened so you do this video in new york it cares to l

00:30:43.140 what kind of reception does it get uh the americans are happy thank you for calling this

00:30:50.600 out the locals who live in nearby communities thank god someone has finally really spoken out

00:30:55.140 about this oh the locals have strong feelings about oh they're they're perpetually grateful

00:30:59.000 to me because no one has ever touched this because seemingly it's radioactive um if you

00:31:03.620 have any political ambitions they die overnight if you talk about this um this is a strong voting

00:31:09.020 block and on top of that they're leveraging the generational guilt of the holocaust um

00:31:15.840 you're anti-semitic if you oppose any of what they're doing so i was a hero to the local

00:31:21.620 communities that live nearby just to be clear yeah the holocaust was not committed by americans we

00:31:25.880 were actually the people who ended it i think you can't make this up tucker right no but i just want

00:31:32.700 because history does get so distorted in real time america did not commit the holocaust what

00:31:37.540 does that have to do with me we lost yeah many many many tens of thousands hundreds of thousands

00:31:41.860 of americans fighting against it so actually america is the hero in that story so i don't

00:31:48.100 know why any american would feel guilt about something that we gave the lives our ancestors

00:31:54.620 to stop so that's just i think that's a great point it is a weird it's a weird thing it's a

00:31:59.100 defense it's a um it's a mechanism that's almost reflexive for a lot of these people to throw out

00:32:04.500 the anti-Semitism, and then the conversation's buried, right?

00:32:07.960 So it's a shield to dissuade further argumentation

00:32:10.820 as to why I disagree with, let's say, a Jewish group, their actions.

00:32:15.500 Right. 0.87

00:32:15.800 And it's abused, obviously, and its weight seems to no longer exist.

00:32:20.200 I'd heard that it was abused, yeah.

00:32:21.760 I mean, I think so, right?

00:32:24.960 Yes.

00:32:25.440 Yeah, someone had told me that.

00:32:26.960 But for me, to clarify, I'm an equal opportunity offender, so to speak.

00:32:30.700 I think you've demonstrated that.

00:32:31.880 Yeah, I'll talk to any of these groups of people

00:32:33.800 and have plenty of critical questions for all of them, 0.89

00:32:36.840 not just Jewish people. 1.00

00:32:38.100 I didn't wake up one day and say, 0.99

00:32:39.300 let's go piss off some Jews, right? 1.00

00:32:40.740 It's just, this is a perfect example 1.00

00:32:43.080 of an ethnic enclave that exploits the welfare system. 1.00

00:32:46.540 And let's go check it out. 0.99

00:32:48.520 Just like I would a Muslim group or a Christian group.

00:32:50.440 Just as you did.

00:32:51.540 Exactly, exactly, yeah.

00:32:52.800 So, okay, so you get big numbers.

00:32:55.340 The audience likes it.

00:32:58.140 The neighbors are grateful for it. 0.99

00:32:59.920 A bunch of Israelis say,

00:33:01.560 hey, we love this because we've lived it.

00:33:03.800 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where does the criticism come from?

00:33:08.700 Republican demagoguery. I think some politicians, Republican politicians,

00:33:15.480 the Republican Party at large is as opposed to it. Really?

00:33:19.220 The left can get behind it. A lot of the right can get behind it. 0.95

00:33:22.520 But also a lot of the right is disgusted by it. How dare he he engage in anti-Semitism?

00:33:29.360 The ADL says it harkens back to age-old anti-Semitic tropes.

00:33:35.140 Yeah, I don't even know what to say.

00:33:38.880 That's unbelievable.

00:33:40.160 For me, it's just laughable.

00:33:41.680 Did any of the people who praised your Somali expo say, did they attack this? 0.94

00:33:48.600 Yes. 0.54

00:33:49.460 Same people?

00:33:50.200 Yes.

00:33:51.720 Yeah, I would give names, but their names are probably too irrelevant to invoke here at this table.

00:33:56.800 But you know, certainly hypocrisy, you know, of people who praised one video exposing parasitic behavior by an ethnic enclave, but attacked the same thing when it was another enclave.

00:34:09.480 For sure. For sure.

00:34:11.000 OK, well, that you would think even secular Jewish communities would be like, hey, you know, thanks for pointing this out.

00:34:15.800 We appreciate that, which some of them did, of course.

00:34:17.540 But largely, there is a tribal mentality of why are you attacking these poor, innocent Jews who just want to mind their own business?

00:34:24.660 That's great. Go mind your own business.

00:34:26.800 not on my dime, Tucker. I pay taxes. Oh, I agree. Quit taking money out of my wallet. If you want

00:34:32.440 to go live in the woods, do it. Work hard enough to buy your own property and go do it. I shouldn't

00:34:37.500 have to subsidize your lifestyle. It's that simple. I totally agree. Beyond that, though,

00:34:41.460 there's no beef. There's no frustration. There's no hatred. It's just a matter of fact. I think

00:34:45.120 any honest person sees exactly the point you're making, and it's pretty hard to disagree with it.

00:34:49.900 Yeah. Any serious person. Well, yeah. I mean, if you think this is okay, is it okay to have,

00:34:54.840 i don't know some christian nazi group or or whatever yeah and to that point right so there's 0.87

00:35:01.620 that all-white community that's trying to start up in the arkansas the the ozarks yeah they're

00:35:06.500 going to get sued into oblivion just for existing um just for uh violating the fair housing act

00:35:11.560 right for discriminating against non-whites for those who don't know it's a group in the ozarks

00:35:16.140 that's trying to build an all-white town yeah um that's illegal with tax money uh no self-funded 0.53

00:35:22.120 so the beauty of curious joelle to me was we're essentially going to um de facto violate the

00:35:31.140 fair housing act de facto segregate ourselves from secular society with secular taxpayer dollars 0.99

00:35:37.680 and if you don't like it you're anti-semitic fuck you that was my takeaway what's what's 0.99

00:35:44.200 and white people can't do it and uh yeah i mean i think blacks tried to do it in downtown 1.00

00:35:50.180 in Philadelphia in the mid-80s 0.98

00:35:51.340 and they got firebombed by the mayor.

00:35:53.260 Yeah.

00:35:53.760 Yeah.

00:35:54.120 They literally got blown up with a bomb.

00:35:56.920 Not that, you know, look, whatever.

00:35:58.340 I've never been for racial separatism,

00:36:00.760 but like I also believe in freedom of association

00:36:03.080 and do whatever you want.

00:36:04.300 That's the conflict, right?

00:36:04.780 I think actually you should be able to do that.

00:36:06.600 I don't really take any problem with them segregating.

00:36:09.600 That's fine.

00:36:10.120 Why would you not want to live next to people

00:36:11.980 that look like you, worship the same God,

00:36:14.920 pray like you, raise their children the same way?

00:36:17.220 Yeah.

00:36:17.460 But why can they only do it?

00:36:18.820 That's all.

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00:37:31.460 were the consequences for you so immediately um obviously the sponsor pulled out of our video

00:37:38.320 We don't want to touch that. 0.97

00:37:40.140 So I can talk about Muslims, Christians, pimps, prostitutes, any group you can imagine. 0.99

00:37:47.040 But this was the no-no, Tucker. 0.99

00:37:48.700 This was the radioactive topic.

00:37:50.920 But you had an advertiser in the video.

00:37:53.720 Typically, they do not ask me for the topic of the video.

00:37:56.480 For this video, I've never been asked the topic of a video.

00:37:58.820 I generally have creative flexibility to place these sponsorships I get on whatever video I please.

00:38:05.260 But for this one, I put out a tweet saying,

00:38:08.880 have you ever heard of Curious Joelle?

00:38:10.500 And I broke down some of the statistics

00:38:12.020 regarding their welfare use.

00:38:14.520 And I'm not going to name the company,

00:38:16.820 but one of the correspondents on behalf of the company

00:38:20.760 saw it and wanted to clarify

00:38:22.320 that it would not be about the Orthodox Jews.

00:38:25.440 And then when I said, yeah, it is, they pulled out. 0.98

00:38:28.620 So obviously they have the right to spend their money

00:38:30.560 how they please.

00:38:31.080 It's just funny.

00:38:31.840 and it goes to show seemingly which groups you cannot talk about.

00:38:36.500 Well, I think that's pretty clear at this point.

00:38:39.880 I have a lot of thoughts about that.

00:38:41.620 The main one is, I think it's counterproductive, obviously.

00:38:44.160 It's not good for anyone in the end.

00:38:46.580 But I also think it's a violation of the core idea of America, which is...

00:38:51.240 And it leads to resentment, I think, for a lot of people.

00:38:54.320 Big time.

00:38:54.640 And it sort of proves their points right in the sense of,

00:38:58.160 you have special privileges.

00:38:59.480 No, I don't.

00:39:00.140 You can't talk about us. 1.00

00:39:01.360 Shut up. 1.00

00:39:02.600 Okay, so you do have special privileges? 1.00

00:39:04.680 Well, I agree with that.

00:39:05.200 Do you?

00:39:06.280 So after that video, so many residents from New Jersey reached out to me and said,

00:39:12.680 hey, we have the same thing going on here in Lakewood, New Jersey and surrounding towns.

00:39:16.880 Please come here and take a look.

00:39:18.860 So Lakewood, I think, is the most populous Jewish town besides Brooklyn, New York,

00:39:24.940 in the United States, massive Orthodox Jewish community.

00:39:29.200 And many of the towns have been turned over, so to speak.

00:39:34.600 Non-Jewish towns have become predominantly Jewish towns in the last two decades, from my understanding, in the early 2000s especially. 0.98

00:39:42.120 And it has been perpetrated through pretty aggressive methods, so to speak. 1.00

00:39:49.460 Really?

00:39:49.700 Yeah. So we're talking about the consolidation of political dominance from the township board to the planning board to the zoning board to the school board and the heritage residents in these areas.

00:40:02.940 Their argument is they've made it so uncomfortable for us that we've either left if we've had the means to leave financially, and those who are left behind send their kids to a dismantled, deluded, and pillaged public school system that's been destroyed inadvertently by the presence of these Orthodox Jews. 1.00

00:40:21.940 How has it destroyed this school system? 1.00

00:40:23.960 So, in New Jersey, the state funding formula for schools is a derivative of public school attendance, okay?

00:40:30.940 So if I had 5,000 public school attendees, that would be multiplied by X to determine the amount of money my school gets. 0.99

00:40:38.960 So what happens is when Orthodox Jewish communities come in, they overwhelm these school districts with Jewish students who go to yeshivas, right? 0.99

00:40:48.380 They do not attend the public school system. 1.00

00:40:50.220 Yet simultaneously, those schools have an obligation to fund private transportation, special education for these private schools. 0.60

00:41:02.780 So what ends up happening is a large piece of the pie ends up getting allocated towards these private schools in the form of gender segregated busing and exorbitant costs for special education within the Jewish community. 0.63

00:41:16.160 Wait, the state pays for gender segregation? 0.68

00:41:19.000 Gender segregated busing. 1.00

00:41:20.500 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:20.880 Yeah.

00:41:21.400 The state pays for that?

00:41:22.480 Correct.

00:41:22.800 So that's state funded. 1.00

00:41:23.860 You can't even get states to have gender segregated bathrooms, but they're paying for gender segregated busing? 1.00

00:41:28.920 Sure. 1.00

00:41:29.560 Because they argue it's a violation of their freedom to religiously express themselves. 1.00

00:41:33.080 And yeah, so there's gender segregated busing at play here.

00:41:37.720 What about Title IX? 0.99

00:41:38.880 There's no federal law. 1.00

00:41:40.020 Well, that's amazing.

00:41:42.100 Yeah.

00:41:42.340 Someone argued it's a violation of the Establishment Clause. 0.88

00:41:44.660 I'm a, by the way, just in point of fact, I'm okay with gender segregation. I don't have a problem

00:41:49.720 with it at all, at all. In fact, I think it's good in some ways, but I just didn't know that

00:41:55.940 the government could pay for it because I thought the official position of the government at every 0.58

00:41:59.320 level was gender segregation is always bad, including in the John. Yeah. But no, it's okay 0.51

00:42:03.840 when the yeshivas do it. Sure. Because they're a religious organization. Okay. Which, you know,

00:42:08.900 different conversation, but religious freedoms in this country, I think have gone too far or

00:42:13.840 have been weaponized by bad actors.

00:42:15.980 Yeah, I mean, there seems to be less religious freedom

00:42:17.740 for some people, but a lot more for others.

00:42:19.600 Yeah, and this is not the only instance

00:42:21.860 of this exact same behavior. 0.90

00:42:23.520 The blueprint was made in East Ramapo,

00:42:26.000 in Muncie, New York, not too far away. 0.62

00:42:30.040 Basically, Orthodox Jews came into this community

00:42:32.560 of mostly black and brown, working class, poor people,

00:42:37.000 bought a bunch of real estate,

00:42:39.480 established their presence,

00:42:41.000 voted themselves into positions of power

00:42:42.860 in the school board,

00:42:43.840 The zoning board, the planning board, the city council, they voted to defund after-school activities for the kids in the public schools to increase the amount of funding for these yeshivas.

00:42:58.040 And then they would consolidate the public schools that existed as the funding basically went down and the public student enrollment went down.

00:43:07.220 As people left, they would consolidate them, meaning they would close down some of the public schools.

00:43:13.840 and they would then sell them off for a discounted price to these yeshivas.

00:43:20.080 So the takeaway from nearby towns...

00:43:22.780 Wait, and so they actually took over the physical plant, the buildings?

00:43:26.720 They bought the schools at discounted rates, yeah.

00:43:30.240 Below market rates, arguably. 1.00

00:43:33.380 Damn. 0.99

00:43:34.200 It's brutal, right? 1.00

00:43:35.360 So the lesson for nearby towns was,

00:43:38.260 we don't really have any upside for these people to move in

00:43:41.520 If a the state funding formula is designed in such a way that the quality of our kids and their public education will go down and they will elect themselves into political power and basically be aggressive and unreasonable neighbors to live by.

00:43:58.100 So, yeah, it's an amazing story.

00:44:01.900 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:44:02.880 So you get calls from people saying that this is going on.

00:44:09.700 What you covered in New York is happening at an even bigger scale.

00:44:12.500 Not a call, just widespread social media feedback.

00:44:16.000 Like, hey, what you saw here, there's tons of it and more here in Lakewood.

00:44:20.580 Come down and visit.

00:44:21.520 So what's Lakewood like?

00:44:23.840 Lakewood is, some would describe it as Little Jerusalem, Israel 2.0.

00:44:31.120 I've never been to Israel.

00:44:32.520 The climate's fundamentally different.

00:44:34.120 Obviously, that's a questionable comparison.

00:44:36.540 But New Jersey is the same size as Israel, weirdly.

00:44:39.340 Funnily enough.

00:44:40.120 But I bet you the landscape in Israel is more charming.

00:44:43.160 Probably so, right?

00:44:44.400 It's the holy land, right?

00:44:46.800 I mean, it's New Jersey, first off.

00:44:49.760 It's an ocean county.

00:44:51.440 The climate's much different.

00:44:52.840 But it is densely populated with, I think, two-thirds of the population is Orthodox Jews. 1.00

00:44:58.620 The driving's terrible. 1.00

00:45:00.860 and they run the show down there. And you went? I went. I went to Lakewood. I went to Munson,

00:45:07.340 New York. I went to the nearby town of Jackson, Jackson Township. Where else did we go? We went

00:45:14.240 all over. What kind of experience did you have? Oh, I was the boogeyman. A lot of these people

00:45:19.680 had seen the video in Curious Joel, and they were afraid for me to come down to Lakewood, New Jersey.

00:45:24.580 there were group chats where they would disseminate yiddish um posters basically saying do not talk to

00:45:32.220 anyone with a camera uh do not let anyone in our synagogues play disney music so he gets a copyright

00:45:38.920 claim on his videos like i was the devil after that video and kirish joel came out in other

00:45:43.860 orthodox jewish communities because i also put out a tweet saying i'm gonna come down let me know if

00:45:49.160 you have any tips. I'm coming, basically. Wow. So what happened when you got there? Did anyone

00:45:55.680 talk to you? Of course. Yeah. Despite them being told not to talk to me, a lot of Jewish people

00:46:01.460 did come up to me. And their main point was the law is written in such a way that we deserve to

00:46:07.360 receive these welfare benefits. We qualify legally and therefore it's okay and good. And if you have

00:46:12.480 a problem with that, go move to a different country. My position was... Go move to a different

00:46:18.480 country? Sure. I mean, obviously not all of them thought that way. There were a few friendly

00:46:22.380 encounters, but mostly it was pretty confrontational, unwelcoming. They were frustrated

00:46:27.500 that I was there. I can take it. Therefore, I'm justified in taking it. Yeah. So beyond the ethics

00:46:32.240 of whether or not it was a good or bad thing to do, their justification was if the law is written

00:46:37.420 in such a way, we are justified in doing it. The law was somehow supreme over what I would argue

00:46:42.800 to be morals or ethics that, in my opinion, this is a bad thing to exploit or take advantage of

00:46:47.980 if that's what you're doing.

00:46:49.820 But for them, it's not coincidental.

00:46:51.500 It's by design.

00:46:52.380 It's systemic exploitation of a system

00:46:54.680 they're fully aware of, all of its loopholes.

00:46:57.200 They understand the law in such a way

00:46:58.900 that allows them to exploit it in every degree.

00:47:01.820 I mean, I think what you're seeing

00:47:02.980 is a clash of worldviews.

00:47:04.440 I think so.

00:47:05.160 So I understand both, by the way.

00:47:07.760 I understand both.

00:47:08.840 Yeah.

00:47:09.200 But one is a legalistic worldview.

00:47:11.920 This is the law and we're within the bounds of the law,

00:47:13.920 which is, I think, totally defensible.

00:47:15.580 And the other is, well, there's a higher law

00:47:17.580 having to do with your ethics.

00:47:21.000 Honor, shame, decency.

00:47:22.840 Yes, and you see this repeatedly

00:47:25.060 in the New Testament

00:47:26.000 when Jesus heals on the Sabbath.

00:47:27.800 Yeah.

00:47:28.660 There's a, well, they're all famous scenes,

00:47:30.580 but there's a particularly memorable scene

00:47:32.240 where he heals a guy who's been crippled

00:47:33.920 for 38 years at the pool of Bethsaida,

00:47:37.060 and the guy gets up and picks up his mat

00:47:39.020 and starts walking,

00:47:39.760 and the Pharisees are just on him.

00:47:41.480 The guy hasn't walked in 38 years,

00:47:43.220 and they're like,

00:47:43.640 you're holding your mat on the Sabbath.

00:47:45.120 It's against the law.

00:47:46.520 Sure.

00:47:47.220 And she's just like, no, you're missing the point.

00:47:49.560 He can walk after 38 years.

00:47:51.200 Like there's a higher calling here.

00:47:53.600 Sure.

00:47:53.880 And so I'm not attacking anybody.

00:47:55.580 I'm just saying like, I think you're kind of seeing that.

00:47:58.040 Law versus ethics, morality.

00:47:59.720 I think that's right.

00:48:00.580 In my opinion, the way I view what welfare was designed for, 1.00

00:48:03.960 which was to help indigence, you know, poverty, 0.57

00:48:06.720 a single mom with some kids they can't afford to pay for groceries.

00:48:10.060 Or even more broadly, there are things that we're allowed to do

00:48:12.120 that we don't do because we restrain ourselves.

00:48:14.100 I agree. 0.98

00:48:14.640 I can scream the F for it at a grandmother. 0.99

00:48:16.880 there's no law against it, 0.89

00:48:18.620 but I don't because that's disgusting, right?

00:48:21.640 I think so.

00:48:22.520 You could probably get on welfare right now.

00:48:24.680 Oh, I'm sure a lot of people could and don't

00:48:27.400 due to this concept of shame,

00:48:29.100 which is seemingly not universal, right?

00:48:31.880 Yes.

00:48:32.180 We let all of these groups of people

00:48:33.740 from all over the world,

00:48:34.720 including Jewish people, right?

00:48:36.680 Including, you know, sub-Saharan Africans,

00:48:38.540 whoever it may be,

00:48:39.640 into the United States,

00:48:41.440 because apparently we have this obligation

00:48:42.920 of being a melting pot,

00:48:44.340 whatever that means,

00:48:45.320 however new that concept is,

00:48:46.880 And we're surprised when we learn that we have different worldviews, different values, different gods, different interpretations of reality that guide our actions.

00:48:58.340 Thus the divide. 0.99

00:49:00.300 Because the heritage residents in a city like Lakewood are saying, yeah, we know you can legally qualify, but we're tired of paying for your shit. 1.00

00:49:09.400 Please stop. 1.00

00:49:10.200 And they're saying, the law says I can, therefore I will.

00:49:14.160 And anti-Semitism.

00:49:15.140 If you don't like it, leave.

00:49:15.960 therefore leave 0.99

00:49:17.500 you leave your country

00:49:19.100 despite their whole lifestyle being contingent

00:49:22.120 on being subsidized

00:49:23.240 by the welfare that is paid for

00:49:26.120 by secular tax dollars is my position

00:49:28.360 so you can't be mad at the person

00:49:30.220 that funds your entire way of life

00:49:31.840 I think that's disingenuous

00:49:33.760 and that's a little ungrateful

00:49:35.080 it's the definition of it

00:49:37.600 do local politicians do they weigh in on this

00:49:40.560 they didn't weigh in on it

00:49:45.840 directly when I put my video out. But all local politicians cave to these guys.

00:49:52.020 The voting block is too immensely valuable for anyone to shut this down, to cap the amount of

00:49:59.240 benefits that they receive to two kids or three kids. No one wants to take away their gravy train

00:50:04.960 because they want the votes. So the votes in exchange for them to be able to live the life

00:50:09.500 however they want to please, to teach their kids however they want, to exhaust the welfare

00:50:15.620 a system however they please, and to not prosecute seemingly any wrongdoers. So, yeah.

00:50:23.880 So, this video comes out. Did you have any, I should ask, did you have any, like,

00:50:29.020 hostile exchanges? Did you call me? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I want to emphasize that I had

00:50:34.300 no fear of being physically harmed in these communities. That's, I got to throw a bone

00:50:38.260 their way. Unlike Minneapolis, I did fear the Somali communities, you know, attacking me or 1.00

00:50:44.140 shooting me. That's a real fear. Showing up to Curious Joelle or Lakewood, that's not a real 0.99

00:50:49.160 fear. There's no fear of physical harm in my opinion. I walk without security there. That's

00:50:54.460 not a real concern. Whereas you felt threatened in the Somali neighborhood. Sure, yeah. I mean,

00:50:59.000 or some of these crime-ridden, predominantly black cities in, let's say, Jackson, Mississippi 1.00

00:51:05.420 or Kensington, Philadelphia. I might fear I might get shot. That's not a concern here. So I'm not 0.98

00:51:11.380 physically fearful. But we were intimidated by the local police and most interestingly,

00:51:19.600 their own internal police. They have this thing called Shamrim. It's a volunteer community patrol,

00:51:29.540 but the de facto function is law enforcement within the community. So we had this Shamrim 0.98

00:51:36.700 volunteer police equivalent basically show up to us and say, I'm going to let everyone know

00:51:42.500 that they don't have to answer your questions and we're going to follow you.

00:51:47.540 So keep in mind that these people drive cars with red and blue lights.

00:51:51.180 They look like undercover police vehicles.

00:51:54.040 How is that legal?

00:51:55.820 I don't think it is, Tucker, but they do it.

00:51:59.020 I'm not a lawyer, of course, but they're blasting through red lights with what appear to be

00:52:04.160 undercover police cars.

00:52:05.420 And this is a volunteer civilian patrol squad.

00:52:09.700 Now, keep in mind, they receive some element of federal funds, township funds.

00:52:16.000 So my tax dollars still somehow end up funding Shamrim, a volunteer police squad in New Jersey.

00:52:24.620 How is that even possible? 1.00

00:52:26.340 The religious police. 0.92

00:52:28.260 Exactly.

00:52:29.660 Essentially.

00:52:30.300 Like in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

00:52:32.300 How do we have that? 1.00

00:52:33.380 Muslim group did that? Outrage. I'd be opposed. Outrage from me too. Sure. Yeah. And technically 1.00

00:52:39.360 they're a volunteer civilian patrol squad, but they function as an intimidating force to stop

00:52:47.520 you from doing things, to sort of enforce the law. And oftentimes they've been accused of

00:52:52.260 breaching what they can actually do legally, whether it be like, I think they beat some 0.89

00:52:58.340 gay black guy to blindness once in like crown heights there have been several instances of

00:53:03.340 people basically saying yo they're not cops why are they acting they ran over a kid in crown 0.87

00:53:09.020 heights in the 80s and caused one of the biggest riots in new york oh is this the crown heights

00:53:13.760 riots yeah were hot sola their their ems uh their volunteer ems didn't take the they didn't take the

00:53:20.480 kid but that took the jewish guy right and the kid died that's correct well that was the claim i mean

00:53:24.460 And I wasn't there. 0.91

00:53:26.480 No, I wasn't.

00:53:27.480 I wasn't there either.

00:53:28.300 It's New York.

00:53:28.820 And you never know.

00:53:29.680 And everyone lies about everything.

00:53:31.140 And ethnic conflict is incredibly hard to decipher.

00:53:34.940 Because as soon as he gets tribal, everyone lies on behalf of the tribe, whatever the tribe. 0.56

00:53:39.400 It's not just the Orthodox. 0.97

00:53:41.400 It's the black people. 0.90

00:53:42.140 Any tribe does this. 0.59

00:53:43.360 So I don't really know what happened, of course.

00:53:46.120 Yeah, I don't know.

00:53:46.700 That was certainly the account that history has recorded.

00:53:51.740 And why wouldn't they have an in-group preferential bias, right?

00:53:54.260 Well, they do.

00:53:54.720 And any person does, obviously. 1.00

00:53:57.520 Whites don't. 0.99

00:53:58.580 With the exception of like post-George Floyd, 0.98

00:54:00.400 I'm pretty sure they ran a study 0.92

00:54:01.420 where whites were less inclined to shoot a black guy. 0.97

00:54:03.920 Of course, much less. 0.98

00:54:04.680 Obviously, right?

00:54:05.360 Your whole life is going to get torn to shreds. 1.00

00:54:08.060 Right, and whites have just had it beaten out of them. 0.89

00:54:11.200 And even in a country that fought the Nazis, 0.63

00:54:14.800 everyone somehow feels responsible for the Nazis.

00:54:18.140 But anyway, yeah, and there may be other reasons.

00:54:21.860 But the bottom line is, you're right.

00:54:24.260 Yes, we had rabbis telling us

00:54:25.780 we couldn't be in the parking lot

00:54:27.540 for the Kosher West supermarket.

00:54:30.140 Get out of here.

00:54:31.860 People whispering in each other's ears,

00:54:33.580 don't talk to him.

00:54:35.660 There's seemingly this upper management 0.97

00:54:37.120 rabbinical class that's telling the plebs

00:54:39.120 to not talk to this guy. 1.00

00:54:41.000 He's trouble.

00:54:42.060 So there would be a lot of people

00:54:43.240 excited to come up to me, actually,

00:54:44.800 and tell a joke.

00:54:45.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:46.440 I got a funny joke for you.

00:54:47.560 I was like, all right, great.

00:54:48.340 We'll show some positives.

00:54:49.840 Guy comes up,

00:54:50.740 or don't talk to him.

00:54:53.280 He says, do you know how much money we make?

00:54:55.600 That was his new response.

00:54:56.820 I'm like, come on, man.

00:54:57.840 Just show your humanity.

00:54:58.920 Talk to me.

00:54:59.380 I'm here to talk.

00:55:00.260 I'm not a scary guy.

00:55:01.540 We're not rolling with 10 security guards.

00:55:03.820 It's me and like a cameraman or two in the distance.

00:55:06.140 I'm walking alone for the most part.

00:55:07.920 And I have a group of 10 to 20 of these Orthodox Jews 1.00

00:55:10.640 arguing with me as to how they're entitled to welfare, 0.98

00:55:15.280 how it was seemingly promised.

00:55:19.420 Oh, man.

00:55:20.960 But yeah, so they had their own internal police force.

00:55:24.100 The cops themselves were pulling me over

00:55:26.060 without probable cause.

00:55:27.860 I would say, hey, officer, I know you're doing your job.

00:55:29.880 Why am I being pulled over?

00:55:31.380 They would say, you're a suspicious person.

00:55:33.680 I would say, what's suspicious about me?

00:55:36.080 You were filming.

00:55:36.980 Okay, we were filming on the sidewalk.

00:55:38.980 Give me your IDs.

00:55:39.860 They can't articulate probable cause.

00:55:43.140 We suspect that one of the high-ranking local officials

00:55:47.360 called the police and told them to give us a hard time.

00:55:49.760 That's speculative.

00:55:50.620 I don't know.

00:55:51.280 What country is this again?

00:55:52.940 The United States of America.

00:55:54.080 Oh, America.

00:55:54.280 Okay.

00:55:54.680 It's easy to forget though, right?

00:55:56.960 So yeah, it was hostile.

00:55:58.740 It was unwelcoming.

00:55:59.720 They thought I was there to do a hit piece.

00:56:02.700 I was there to talk to them.

00:56:04.220 You're allowed to do a hit piece if you want in your own country.

00:56:07.060 Yeah.

00:56:07.620 And I am allowed to do that.

00:56:08.720 And part of my position was, first of all, it wasn't a hit piece.

00:56:11.640 It was fair in my opinion.

00:56:13.140 But B, I don't have to show up to show the positive sides of whatever community.

00:56:19.280 That's for Joe Schmoe to do.

00:56:21.320 I'm here to jump into the heart of darkness and ask the hard questions.

00:56:25.000 And if people get pissed off, then so be it.

00:56:28.020 It's not your problem.

00:56:29.440 That's not my prerogative.

00:56:30.780 I want to do the fun, hard stuff, which is asking the questions that may piss off a few people.

00:56:35.500 So did you get the same picture you got at Curious2L that this is a community supported by welfare?

00:56:41.800 The economics are a little bit different.

00:56:43.660 They're a little more well-off financially.

00:56:45.440 but basically at any given time you can expect half of the population that's 16 and up to be

00:56:51.700 unemployed um half half so keep in mind though tucker that in a place like curious show i think

00:56:59.220 the median age is less than 16 years old so what that really means is half the population is

00:57:04.460 children and half of the adult population is unemployed and not seeking employment 0.54

00:57:10.120 Whether it be religious study, child rearing for the women, they have no intention of getting a job and financially contributing. 0.98

00:57:20.780 So, yeah. 0.98

00:57:22.860 So how'd that video do?

00:57:25.160 Oh, that one went nuclear.

00:57:29.520 Republicans were pissed.

00:57:31.420 They were?

00:57:32.680 Good faith Republicans, in my opinion, drew comparisons to the Somali situation and said, what's the difference between the Jews here using the welfare and systematically exploitative ways and the Somalis? 0.84

00:57:46.080 Like, what's the difference, basically? 0.89

00:57:48.380 Bad faith Republicans, hypocritical Republicans were saying they're using the system as intended. 0.96

00:57:56.000 They don't cause any violent crime. 0.99

00:57:58.220 Leave them alone, essentially.

00:57:59.780 You're not allowed to talk about.

00:58:01.180 Why don't they leave us alone?

00:58:02.660 Right, as a taxpayer.

00:58:04.200 Yeah.

00:58:04.680 Go fund it yourself and no one would have an issue.

00:58:06.700 And that's really the crux of it.

00:58:07.380 I support it.

00:58:08.220 Sure.

00:58:08.760 I like eccentric, self-sufficient religious communities.

00:58:11.900 I don't want to bother any one of them. 0.78

00:58:13.800 Sure.

00:58:14.340 But part of the secondary argument is their intrusion into the community,

00:58:18.260 and the words I used were invasion,

00:58:21.200 has led to the inadvertent destruction of the public school system

00:58:25.740 for the secular or goyim population,

00:58:29.060 the non-Jewish population in these towns.

00:58:32.080 Basically, as more Jews move in, 1.00

00:58:34.400 it is unavoidable that your public school quality 1.00

00:58:37.600 will go to shit. 0.99

00:58:39.580 Your kids will have a lesser quality of education. 1.00

00:58:42.980 So it's either get out now while you can, 1.00

00:58:44.580 sell your house to the Orthodox Jews moving in, 1.00

00:58:47.540 or be the last one holding the bag 1.00

00:58:50.020 as your town goes to shit. 1.00

00:58:53.540 Man, that's upsetting. 1.00

00:58:55.460 Kind of, right?

00:58:56.500 So this video goes bonkers on the internet.

00:59:01.120 Yeah, so within, I think, less than 24 hours,

00:59:04.060 my Patreon is deleted mysteriously.

00:59:06.700 What's Patreon?

00:59:07.420 Patreon is a sort of a crowdfunding website

00:59:11.080 that allows you to directly raise money

00:59:13.080 from your viewers or fans or whatever,

00:59:15.520 where you can say, you know,

00:59:16.440 hey, you can get access to these videos

00:59:18.160 for five bucks a month.

00:59:21.160 So a large portion of our independence

00:59:23.260 was from this website

00:59:24.800 where we had people

00:59:25.580 subscribe to our Patreon.

00:59:27.420 It's just a website

00:59:28.040 that allows you to collect money

00:59:29.240 on a subscription

00:59:30.320 or routine basis.

00:59:32.500 Less than 24 hours

00:59:33.940 after releasing this video,

00:59:35.480 my Patreon is deleted,

00:59:37.480 gone,

00:59:38.240 without warning.

00:59:40.180 Why?

00:59:41.760 They cited some BS.

00:59:45.340 They basically,

00:59:46.560 the way the terms of service

00:59:47.620 is written

00:59:48.060 is in such a manner

00:59:49.340 that they can take you down.

00:59:51.280 But that's your business.

00:59:52.400 That's my business.

00:59:53.260 right obviously it's their business it is what it is i was naive but this is the engine of your

00:59:58.560 business right yeah a large part of how we're funded that's i mean it's really just a middle

01:00:04.040 man that allows was it a mistake no absolutely not um they did not get reinstated since um

01:00:10.940 did they ever they ever explain no no they cited i think it was for um bullying or something like

01:00:19.100 that only um and i think uh they might have selected a video that they could easily argue

01:00:26.340 was the case uh in their eyes in such a way that their terms of service is written but no we were

01:00:31.720 to platform to basically overnight from patreon um but you'd done controversial video or videos

01:00:38.440 that could be seen as controversial before correct videos that could easily be seen if that is your

01:00:42.940 parameter for hate or bullying then we've bullied everyone give me an example we're the biggest

01:00:48.900 bullies um we we've critiqued corrupt mega pastors like benny hinn i ran up on the guy's stage and 0.86

01:00:56.360 said he's a snake oil salesman i got tackled um wow we've dissected any hen that benny hen he was

01:01:04.460 a friend of paula white's i think okay paula white the yeah he's a christian zionist in the

01:01:10.040 administration yeah um wow you didn't get pulled off no so you actually kind of hassled benny hen

01:01:16.440 like full-blown.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, we interrupted his service.

01:01:19.180 Whoa.

01:01:19.740 I jumped on stage.

01:01:20.700 Did you do anything like that 0.99

01:01:21.620 in a synagogue in Lakewood

01:01:22.840 or Curious Jewel? 0.99

01:01:23.200 We just walked in the synagogues

01:01:24.700 and talked to him.

01:01:24.860 You didn't interrupt the cantor

01:01:25.940 or anything?

01:01:26.220 No, I didn't do any dramatic.

01:01:28.100 So you're way tougher 0.98

01:01:29.300 on the Christian preacher 0.62

01:01:30.740 than you were on the Orthodox.

01:01:31.960 Yeah, you know,

01:01:32.820 if you think of it like that way,

01:01:33.880 not by design necessarily,

01:01:35.240 but to be fair, absolutely.

01:01:37.460 Nothing happened.

01:01:37.940 No problem.

01:01:38.480 No problem.

01:01:39.800 What else?

01:01:40.440 What other kind of videos

01:01:41.120 might have been read as bullying?

01:01:43.220 If I'm a bully,

01:01:44.100 then we've bullied pedophiles, 0.65

01:01:45.860 Pat myself on the back for that one

01:01:48.340 It's not so much bullying

01:01:50.960 We've just critiqued and asked critical questions

01:01:52.880 To every group 1.00

01:01:53.620 Muslims, Christians 1.00

01:01:57.100 Pimps, prostitutes 1.00

01:01:58.760 Criminal gangsters 1.00

01:02:00.260 Murderers, whoever Tucker 0.98

01:02:02.640 Everyone 1.00

01:02:03.480 Black supremacists, white supremacists 0.98

01:02:07.300 No, no issue on Patreon 0.91

01:02:09.440 What's interesting is it used to be

01:02:11.260 Not that long ago

01:02:12.940 Back in George Floyd times

01:02:15.220 George Floyd

01:02:16.960 we had a video

01:02:17.540 on George Floyd

01:02:18.120 oh did you

01:02:18.440 literally

01:02:18.840 yeah

01:02:19.580 but there was a period

01:02:21.220 where you couldn't

01:02:22.200 say anything

01:02:22.700 about Black Lives Matter

01:02:23.680 for example

01:02:24.360 yeah

01:02:24.900 do you remember that

01:02:25.640 yeah for sure

01:02:26.340 yeah

01:02:26.620 I grew up in those times

01:02:27.700 yes

01:02:28.100 so that's gone

01:02:29.620 apparently

01:02:29.960 it doesn't matter

01:02:30.460 I guess

01:02:30.780 say whatever you want

01:02:31.700 yeah

01:02:32.120 this is the new BLM

01:02:34.840 this is the new meta

01:02:35.440 yeah

01:02:35.720 the new untouchable group

01:02:37.440 is seemingly 0.71

01:02:37.960 it seems to be Jews at large

01:02:41.200 unrelated to

01:02:42.940 how they feel about Israel 1.00

01:02:45.080 And, you know, what's going on in the Middle East and just that's an untouchable group. 0.78

01:02:49.360 Are you familiar with the proposed what anti-Semitism protection laws in Florida? 1.00

01:02:54.780 I'm not a lawyer. I don't have an encyclopedic breakdown of what it is, but basically laws that are designed in such a manner that if you criticize basically exactly what I found in Curious Joel, that that would be criminal.

01:03:09.340 criminal i think so that if you accuse a jewish person of having dual loyalty um

01:03:15.540 or them causing problems in the middle east or what whatever it is there's like 12 different

01:03:23.340 bullet points that's amend your ability to freely discuss what's going on in the middle east

01:03:29.500 or here in the united states of america which is funny to me because there are in fact we should

01:03:34.460 have a revolution over that i mean you're not allowed to tell americans what they have to

01:03:38.980 belief period i think so and if you back up your demand with guns using our government to prevent

01:03:45.820 us from saying what we think is true then that's grounds for i would agree but who's going to do

01:03:51.200 a revolution we had a revolution or something smaller than that you know so yeah but who's

01:03:55.220 gonna go out with guns and and fight back at this point you have the surveillance state you're going

01:04:00.880 to get arrested immediately like is is revolution really if they can make people take the vax then

01:04:06.240 And probably they didn't make them do anything.

01:04:07.440 We failed the compliance.

01:04:08.700 No, you're right.

01:04:09.520 We passed.

01:04:10.220 No, it's right.

01:04:11.340 It's just that you would think that people would hold on to their core freedom,

01:04:17.640 which is the right to say what you think is true, period.

01:04:20.400 You would think a lot of things, Tucker.

01:04:22.360 No, I know.

01:04:23.520 So Patreon, that's crazy.

01:04:26.680 So you lost an advertiser.

01:04:28.560 Overnight, yeah.

01:04:29.220 And that money, the amount of money that was allocated for me to receive,

01:04:33.560 I think on a monthly basis, just disappeared, refunded to my supporters.

01:04:38.400 Seriously?

01:04:38.920 Yeah, but luckily, you know, we're big enough to where we took it like a champ.

01:04:42.280 It is what it is. 1.00

01:04:43.320 Fuck them, basically. 1.00

01:04:44.680 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:45.020 We made our own website.

01:04:46.460 You know, we fully host that.

01:04:47.620 And then I got banned from the website servers, not once, but twice.

01:04:53.640 What?

01:04:54.260 Yeah.

01:04:54.800 I couldn't host my website for, what was it?

01:04:59.080 Hate speech or something along those lines.

01:05:03.100 Seriously?

01:05:03.880 Seriously, yeah.

01:05:04.800 Because of those videos?

01:05:06.160 I guess.

01:05:07.180 I mean, there's no specification as to which video,

01:05:09.080 just generally.

01:05:10.200 I'm a propagator of hate speech.

01:05:11.860 The web host.

01:05:12.800 The web host.

01:05:13.460 Whoever owns the servers.

01:05:14.600 Exactly, just the servers.

01:05:16.340 So Hertzner and Volter took me off, yeah.

01:05:20.380 That's wild.

01:05:21.200 Crazy, right?

01:05:21.960 It's just something you never would have thought of.

01:05:24.080 Did you think of it ahead of time?

01:05:25.520 No, absolutely not.

01:05:27.000 That's why I made the website in the first place.

01:05:29.680 I was just like, I'll just make my own.

01:05:31.680 And then we got taken off.

01:05:33.560 The hosting, yeah.

01:05:34.720 Did they explain it?

01:05:36.400 Yeah, they cited banning circumvention.

01:05:41.700 Basically, I circumvented a previous ban from another platform,

01:05:45.160 which in this case would be Patreon, I guess,

01:05:47.620 and then for hate speech or something along those lines.

01:05:50.000 How long did this take to happen?

01:05:52.000 I think maybe it lasted a week for the first one,

01:05:54.320 maybe a week again, maybe a week and a half.

01:05:56.320 So immediately, Patreon.

01:05:57.600 Pretty quickly.

01:05:58.480 Oh, Patreon within 24 hours from what I remember,

01:06:02.000 and then about a week on one website,

01:06:03.560 And then about another week, one week on one website, server, and then another week.

01:06:09.360 And there's no appeal or argument or anything.

01:06:11.300 No, we're kicking you off.

01:06:12.120 You're out of here, buddy.

01:06:13.780 Did you ever hear from them again?

01:06:15.920 Did they reinstate you?

01:06:16.900 No, no.

01:06:17.660 Reinstated by none.

01:06:20.240 It's a joke.

01:06:22.860 Yeah.

01:06:23.780 So what did you do?

01:06:25.420 I mean, I have a new web host server right now.

01:06:29.040 Are you worried about YouTube?

01:06:30.880 um i feel as if youtube's doing an okay job they certainly are moderating right they're letting us

01:06:36.960 have this conversation yes videos have nine million views almost to me that's um i got to

01:06:42.840 give them kudos i spent many years attacking youtube and maybe i will again yeah but i got

01:06:49.200 fired almost exactly three years ago and youtube has been a stalwart partner yeah i never thought

01:06:56.200 i would say that i wouldn't lie about it it's not like i'm in i don't owe them money sure i could

01:07:00.260 exist without them but i just have to be i think you're in the same position i would say largely

01:07:04.200 i could not exist without them but they've treated me with uh fairness so that's kind of

01:07:10.300 shocking it is i know you get to the point where you're sitting here complimenting google

01:07:13.860 commitment to free speech things are getting bad right no but we should be grateful for our

01:07:19.800 blessings yeah and so far youtube has been a blessing i can't believe i'm saying that

01:07:23.900 i know it's just times are changing it's just a fact i don't know what to say i feel like a

01:07:28.200 sellout but it's just true um so wow so we didn't in the end you replaced the income how yes yeah

01:07:35.580 how do you do that uh people just rally behind the cause of why would you not allow this guy

01:07:40.980 to i couldn't i couldn't i feel like sending you money just listen to this but i mean how do you

01:07:45.020 do that so patreon is the dominant service for this correct i use ai to code a new website and

01:07:52.240 then we hosted it on a web host server you've made your own it's made my own yeah like the next day

01:07:57.800 at like two in the morning.

01:07:58.920 I was just clacking away on.

01:08:00.520 No way.

01:08:01.500 I swear.

01:08:02.120 Yeah, that's the story.

01:08:02.980 You built your own Patreon?

01:08:04.740 I don't think it's the prettiest website, Tucker.

01:08:06.480 But yeah, we built a Patreon clone, basically.

01:08:09.060 Yeah.

01:08:09.560 In 24 hours?

01:08:10.940 No, maybe a couple days.

01:08:13.060 A couple days.

01:08:13.600 That's incredible.

01:08:14.520 And it actually works?

01:08:15.580 AI, I guess, for that much, at least.

01:08:17.120 Yeah, it works.

01:08:18.640 Yeah.

01:08:19.520 Surprisingly, it's not that sophisticated

01:08:21.220 to host a video.

01:08:23.940 No, I guess that's right.

01:08:24.800 Yeah, right?

01:08:25.320 It's not a complicated product.

01:08:27.700 So you have survived.

01:08:29.560 We've survived and thrived, yeah.

01:08:31.500 What are the lessons you're drawing from this? 1.00

01:08:36.160 Seemingly, there are a lot of powerful Jewish people 0.98

01:08:39.200 who own significant media enterprises, 1.00

01:08:43.800 websites that seem to bend the knee

01:08:47.340 at least to what they view to be anti-Semitic dialogue.

01:08:52.220 What's interesting, though, is I don't know a lot about it.

01:08:54.860 I'll just be totally blunt.

01:08:55.640 I've always liked the Orthodox just on principle

01:08:57.680 because, and I loved them during COVID

01:08:59.560 because they wouldn't stop their weddings.

01:09:01.100 Yeah, they threw a middle finger.

01:09:02.180 I love that.

01:09:03.200 I was constantly from my heart complimenting the-

01:09:05.840 I think they're great if they did it on their own dime.

01:09:07.860 I totally agree.

01:09:08.960 I didn't even know about any of this stuff.

01:09:10.620 I mean, they're nice people.

01:09:11.080 If I wasn't there with the camera asking critical questions,

01:09:13.440 they're nice enough people to me.

01:09:14.000 But what's interesting is every time I've ever

01:09:16.040 complimented the Orthodox and I like their style,

01:09:20.040 like the beaver hats and all that.

01:09:21.760 I like all that stuff.

01:09:23.620 The garb is badass.

01:09:24.800 The people who've pushed back against me are secular Jews.

01:09:30.200 Like, there's always been, in Israel, as noted, there's terrible tension.

01:09:34.140 But here also, I've had a lot of friends who are basically secular Jewish express real hostility toward the Orthodox.

01:09:42.620 In what respect? 0.57

01:09:43.660 You know, they don't like them. 0.98

01:09:44.920 I mean, I've noticed that my whole life, just having a lot of secular Jewish friends. 0.98

01:09:48.880 whenever I'm like, I was in Borough Park, Brooklyn once.

01:09:51.040 Okay.

01:09:51.680 And I came for a story years ago, 30 years,

01:09:54.100 and I came back to my newsroom and I was like,

01:09:55.760 I like those guys.

01:09:56.880 And they were all the people I know who are secular Jews 1.00

01:09:59.740 who were like, they're disgusting. 1.00

01:10:01.420 They're horrible. 1.00

01:10:02.080 Like there was tension between those two groups.

01:10:04.220 That's what I've always noticed.

01:10:05.260 I'm hardly an expert.

01:10:06.400 I'm an Episcopalian, but I've just, I've seen this.

01:10:09.040 Yeah, what was fascinating to me-

01:10:09.940 It's kind of weird that-

01:10:11.340 Is that despite their internal differences,

01:10:13.200 they do show up for each other, it seems like.

01:10:15.460 Apparently. 0.99

01:10:16.460 I think so, because I had a lot of secular Jews frustrated and pissed off that we took those videos. 0.99

01:10:21.340 Yeah. 0.97

01:10:22.560 The Israelis kind of loved it, though, it seems like. 0.89

01:10:24.820 Right, of course.

01:10:25.600 They're like, thank you for calling this out.

01:10:27.360 We have the same thing here in Israel.

01:10:29.660 They won't enlist.

01:10:31.660 Whatever you think about the Israelis, I've known a bunch of them I liked personally, 0.62

01:10:35.700 but they have fewer hangups about this kind of stuff.

01:10:38.620 They're much more direct.

01:10:40.520 Do you know what I mean?

01:10:41.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:41.780 They're straightforward people.

01:10:43.460 so what is this going to change how you progress hell no no i mean this was the most radioactive

01:10:50.100 thing we could have done at this point no bars held i mean we'll continue to to critically uh

01:10:57.260 show up with the same critical lens we would any other group right did it affect any friendships

01:11:00.940 no not that i'm aware of okay good yeah yeah that's good right that's a true loss yeah if

01:11:07.100 that happens to you that's a really that would be sad but uh ultimately i would see that as

01:11:11.280 their loss because come on we're on a mission here to hold everyone accountable to the same

01:11:15.240 standards and the same standards that's exactly right breaks our friendship then come on get out

01:11:20.700 of here i agree i agree with that do you worry that if this can happen to you i didn't realize

01:11:26.920 this stuff was still happening yeah i thought trump was funny right all this stuff i thought

01:11:30.200 this was like a relic of the biden years but um i'll give you an example there was a guy who made

01:11:35.300 a similar video uh almost a brand new channel maybe like 2 000 subscribers on youtube a very

01:11:40.320 small channel and YouTube metrics. He put out a video there in Lakewood about a week or two before

01:11:46.280 I think we finished ours, and he got dogpiled by the Orthodox Jewish community. They mass disliked

01:11:52.460 it and ultimately algorithmically killed the video. They aborted the video before its inception,

01:11:58.820 so to speak, and never got to take off. So my takeaway was, if we were not the size we were

01:12:04.140 on YouTube, I don't think we could comfortably even talk about a lot of these things. We have

01:12:09.340 the track record for treating everyone equally, in my opinion. We have the size to sort of bully

01:12:14.340 this into conversation was my takeaway. Interesting. Yeah. For people who don't

01:12:18.980 know what you mean about dogpiling a video out of existence, can you just explain the mechanics?

01:12:22.300 Yeah. I mean, this is somewhat speculative on my end, but I think there's data out there that

01:12:26.340 suggests that when a video from the get-go is mass disliked, for instance, if you had 10,000

01:12:31.640 people click this video, dislike it, and watch it for one second, the algorithm would disincentivize

01:12:37.240 the proliferation of this video to new viewers.

01:12:40.700 So you have a guy with 100 subscribers

01:12:42.800 who puts out a video critical of a group

01:12:44.780 like let's say the Orthodox Jews

01:12:46.360 and it gets 10,000 dislikes

01:12:48.900 and they watch it for five seconds

01:12:51.000 and leave a negative comment.

01:12:53.260 YouTube's going to see that as this video

01:12:55.580 does not resonate with the initial sample size

01:12:58.600 and we will not continue to share this video.

01:13:01.280 So his video will never get any traction

01:13:03.020 because of that initial abortion of the video,

01:13:05.360 so to speak.

01:13:05.860 but you've reached a scale where that's just, that's doesn't work anymore.

01:13:10.700 Has it hurt your business?

01:13:13.400 Yes, I think so.

01:13:15.760 Yeah.

01:13:16.360 Yeah.

01:13:17.320 Sponsors won't touch topics like that.

01:13:19.400 We've had sponsors even asked to pull out sponsorships from videos we filmed three years ago

01:13:25.500 that have nothing to do with these topics.

01:13:28.060 We filmed a video in a cancer belt in Louisiana about companies like, what's an example?

01:13:35.860 some of these pesticide companies that, man, there's the big one.

01:13:40.980 Monsanto.

01:13:41.500 Monsanto, I think, yeah.

01:13:43.380 In Louisiana, a bunch of people getting cancer way earlier than they should due to their exposure to these toxic chemicals. 0.70

01:13:51.800 Videos totally unrelated to this Orthodox Jewish topic.

01:13:55.820 They've asked to get pulled out from those videos.

01:13:58.380 So I've cut them out of the videos on YouTube retroactively.

01:14:02.420 three-year-old videos because of, I guess, the frustration of what this video represents. I

01:14:10.500 don't know. There's no clarity beyond, you know, take this out. We have a legal clause that allows

01:14:14.580 us to. You said you grew up during George Floyd, obviously did you're 26. Yeah. Yeah. So that was

01:14:19.660 six years ago. So you were just busy dropping out of college at that point. Yeah. I was actually in

01:14:24.860 Austin when the riots happened and people were throwing Molotov cocktails through some bars

01:14:29.740 downtown. I was watching the chaos unfold in downtown Austin. People were blowing up cars.

01:14:35.360 I was like, what the hell is going on here? And I was pretty politically illiterate back then. I

01:14:39.380 would argue I still am now. And I didn't even fully understand what was happening. I was like,

01:14:43.500 why is Austin rioting? What does this have to do with Austin, Texas? Like, why is everyone

01:14:48.000 chimping out here in Austin? I still don't know. I was like, wait, why did they get the pass to 0.95

01:14:52.640 blow up a car? And why did the cops watch it happen? What does Austin have to do with

01:14:57.680 Minneapolis, right? It just didn't make any sense. And when that happened, this was also during

01:15:05.220 the COVID nonsense, the lockdown restrictions, all that fun stuff. And I was like, screw this,

01:15:11.060 I'm going back to Modesto. I was like, I'm out of here. I broke the lease prematurely and just

01:15:15.900 left. I was like, I'm not dealing with this. So yeah. So if you're 26, I mean, your whole

01:15:23.580 like adult life has been like me too George Floyd um what else it's been one witch witch hunt after

01:15:31.400 another it's just been pure identity politics from the minute you left high school yeah there

01:15:36.740 is no world that I can recall without this identity politics right there is no non-tribal

01:15:43.100 politics that I you belong to the only group that's not allowed to have a tribe so that must

01:15:46.900 be very strange for you uh yes yeah yeah i don't know what to make of it i think um i don't i can't

01:15:54.600 conceive of a world where this was not the case and i imagine you grew up in a time where most

01:15:58.880 people look the same for the most part yeah they worship the same god they did and what wanted they

01:16:04.540 wanted what was best for the economy like they wanted national security and a on a thriving

01:16:08.960 economy because it was overwhelmingly overwhelmingly waiting christian the country that i grew up in

01:16:13.840 the christian whites really went out of their way to make non-christian whites feel comfortable

01:16:18.460 yeah that was like that was a huge emphasis um you know there are some people who aren't like

01:16:24.860 us and we need to do whatever we can to de-emphasize the differences and to make them

01:16:28.500 feel included um that whole worldview i think is dying as the group that did it becomes a minority

01:16:36.140 But there was no sense in which, you know, discrimination was acceptable at all. 1.00

01:16:43.800 Even in private, people didn't ever say, damn, those Jews or damn, those blacks. 0.99

01:16:48.400 Like, I never heard one person talk like that ever. 1.00

01:16:50.720 And now that's pretty mainstream.

01:16:52.660 Now they're like, oh, people say, oh, I don't believe you're lying.

01:16:54.880 I don't care what you think.

01:16:55.940 I was there.

01:16:57.040 And nobody ever talked that way, ever, ever, ever.

01:16:59.140 And even as a kid, maybe the earliest I can remember it, maybe in elementary school,

01:17:02.400 like there truly might have been a colorblind element to life right and then beyond high

01:17:07.500 school for me though everything's been this identity politics how do you think this ends

01:17:12.820 balkanization of america for sure right we're already seeing it um if you can afford to you'll

01:17:18.620 insulate yourself from like crime-ridden inner cities and that's why you're in bozeman or

01:17:22.860 wherever you know that's why bozeman all of a sudden tripled in value right absolutely if you

01:17:27.460 have the money you'll you'll leave these areas that are becoming crime-ridden shitholes and if

01:17:31.520 you don't you'll be left behind as seemingly these activist judges release the same repeat offenders 0.53

01:17:37.140 these murderous people who are i guess too mentally insane to be institutionalized but

01:17:43.500 mentally sane enough to be let back on the streets um well you can see why the 0.98

01:17:51.560 there are probably whites who are getting a little paranoid if you're the only non-protected 0.52

01:17:57.880 group and every other group thinks is a group except you we're not allowed to think it's a group

01:18:02.120 and a lot of groups hate you but there's no one to defend you then i mean you can see why elon 0.98

01:18:08.860 musk recently tweeted we're moving towards south africa and the whites are screwed you can see why

01:18:12.440 analogy right do people feel that way the whole city like jackson mississippi that's um i spent 0.97

01:18:18.920 a summer in jackson in the late 80s somewhere okay in a black neighborhood yeah and it was great

01:18:24.680 and the black people were super nice

01:18:26.320 and there was no crime aimed at me.

01:18:28.640 I think things have changed.

01:18:29.400 That's kind of the point I'm making.

01:18:30.460 Yeah, I can't remember that world.

01:18:33.140 I was in Jackson, Mississippi in the summer of 1989 0.56

01:18:35.840 in a black neighborhood for like three weeks

01:18:37.840 and I went to the 7-Eleven at night

01:18:40.620 to buy cigarettes and call my girlfriend on the payphone

01:18:42.460 and not one person bothered me.

01:18:45.180 And I was the only pale face in the zip code.

01:18:47.420 So like that did exist.

01:18:48.980 I was there.

01:18:49.460 Yeah, I think you'd be unwise to show up to Detroit

01:18:52.620 or Philadelphia or Jackson, Mississippi.

01:18:56.240 And what gets rich too, Tucker,

01:18:57.600 is a lot of people make it a red, blue state issue. 0.99

01:19:00.060 I mean, there are some fucked up cities 0.94

01:19:03.240 all across America that deal with the same issues. 0.96

01:19:06.780 And it's not on the lines of red or blue,

01:19:09.780 Democrat, Republican.

01:19:12.340 It exists all over.

01:19:14.140 So I don't know.

01:19:15.000 I think if you, the American dream right now

01:19:17.820 is seemingly to make enough money

01:19:19.340 to insulate yourself from the chaos unfolding

01:19:22.580 in major cities, to get out of the major city, to go buy a nice house in the suburbs, and

01:19:28.780 to be left alone.

01:19:29.500 That seems to be the modern American dream.

01:19:32.220 And for a lot of people coming to the U.S., it seems to be to make as much money as possible,

01:19:36.320 send as much as you can back home, and then show up to a mega mansion in Bengaluru, India

01:19:40.740 after you're done exploiting the United States.

01:19:43.340 That's what it seems like the dream is for a lot of these people coming here.

01:19:47.660 So, yeah.

01:19:48.440 So that leaves one group totally unprotected. 0.98

01:19:51.800 Seemingly white people, right? 0.87

01:19:53.040 Yeah. 0.76

01:19:53.300 By every measure.

01:19:54.020 So I have noticed just in, and I, of course, I don't know what's coming, but I've noticed

01:19:57.860 concern bordering on paranoia among people I've been talking to.

01:20:02.100 Pretty moderate, normal, you know, Bush, Romney, McCain, now Trump voters, just Republicans,

01:20:09.600 not, you know, nothing, nothing crazy, not a white supremacist among them at all. 0.72

01:20:14.980 It's like normal whites who are like, I think we're going to get necklaced at some point. 0.85

01:20:19.540 I think that group's probably least likely 0.99

01:20:22.060 to hold any in-group racial preference, right?

01:20:25.100 No, these are not people

01:20:25.900 who've ever thought of themselves as white at all. 0.64

01:20:28.180 Right, these are not people who've like,

01:20:29.840 you know, they're not from Alpena, Arkansas.

01:20:31.680 No, no, no, these are people from like Long Beach.

01:20:34.060 That's what I'm saying.

01:20:34.340 They're the least likely to hold any, 1.00

01:20:38.240 you know, whites don't stick together in their eyes, right? 1.00

01:20:41.660 At all.

01:20:42.100 It's never occurred to them.

01:20:44.480 They've never had the need to.

01:20:45.740 Right, but those people,

01:20:47.280 at least I've just noticed this

01:20:48.740 in the past couple of months are like,

01:20:50.180 man, we're in trouble.

01:20:51.520 That's interesting.

01:20:52.460 Have you heard anyone say that?

01:20:55.220 I only speak to, I feel like, Gen Z, you know.

01:20:59.080 How do they feel?

01:21:02.840 Gen Z feels hopeless, demoralized, without opportunity. 0.99

01:21:07.980 The college degree is seemingly useless. 1.00

01:21:09.940 The bachelor's degree means nothing.

01:21:11.740 They have to compete with a globalized labor force.

01:21:14.640 There is, what, human quantitative easing at play 0.79

01:21:17.380 where we're insuring infinite jobs

01:21:19.440 to compete against our college graduates.

01:21:21.880 Yet Trump's out there saying 0.99

01:21:23.260 our college graduates are lazy and incompetent 0.92

01:21:26.360 and not sufficient to fill these jobs 0.96

01:21:29.400 despite us holding the best universities on the planet.

01:21:32.180 You guys noticed when you said that?

01:21:33.560 Yeah, right.

01:21:35.020 And that's such a slap in the face of what's the point?

01:21:37.640 What are we even voting for, right?

01:21:38.980 Like that's the question.

01:21:40.360 Who represents my generation's interests?

01:21:43.420 Someone will have to.

01:21:44.840 Otherwise that energy has to be funneled somewhere.

01:21:47.380 So Trump did say something like that.

01:21:48.820 I think it's something along those exact lines, yeah.

01:21:51.260 And people in your generation heard it.

01:21:53.980 They caught that.

01:21:55.180 Well, yeah, these are the same people

01:21:56.560 who don't have a job several years out of college,

01:21:59.820 who can't get a job with their degree, 1.00

01:22:02.660 who are competing with infinite H-1B Indians. 0.97

01:22:06.140 These guys who have 20 years experience from India 1.00

01:22:08.680 who are taking their job 1.00

01:22:09.860 and were using these H-1Bs as a wage suppression mechanism.

01:22:13.900 Like, why are we not paying these H-1Bs above market rate 0.98

01:22:17.040 If there's such rare, irreplaceable talent, right? 1.00

01:22:20.780 It seems to only be a wage suppression mechanism.

01:22:23.700 So our generation is getting replaced 1.00

01:22:25.160 by seemingly foreigners.

01:22:27.340 Not seemingly, actual.

01:22:29.500 Literally enclaves of foreigners. 1.00

01:22:32.160 They know the game though. 1.00

01:22:33.360 They understand that politics is zero sum.

01:22:35.780 They need to elect their own,

01:22:37.020 protect their own interests. 0.85

01:22:38.300 And that's what I think my generation

01:22:39.500 is maybe waking up to.

01:22:41.320 And maybe something that your generation

01:22:42.920 has had the good fortune of not having

01:22:46.160 to spend as much time as a completely different country yeah completely different i wouldn't be

01:22:49.580 in touch that if i didn't have so many children so many employees and uh you know and other reasons

01:22:56.940 but in general yeah no i think i'm more aware of it but still not anywhere near as aware of it as

01:23:03.280 you would be since i'm not having like identity politics was like gay and woke for the longest

01:23:07.560 time until the white guy in his 20s was forced to confront himself with either we developed some

01:23:14.060 in-groups, some in-group racial preference, or we're going to go extinct, I think.

01:23:19.600 What's just so interesting is that I've noticed that this administration, which I think was

01:23:23.660 elected to end identity politics, is engaged in the most aggressive identity politics,

01:23:27.640 but only on behalf of 2% of the population.

01:23:29.860 And so every single tweet from every person I know in the administration is like, Harvard's

01:23:35.220 real problem is that it's discriminated against Jews. 0.51

01:23:37.340 Meanwhile, it's like 20% Jewish with a Jewish president. 0.59

01:23:39.720 And the one group that is provably unrepresented is high SAT scoring, high IQ Christian white kids. 0.64

01:23:48.380 And not only are they not ignoring that, but they're making a mockery of it and pointing their finger at that exact same group and accusing them of the sin, and it is a sin, of anti-Semitism.

01:23:58.940 And it's like, are you begging for a revolution?

01:24:01.020 Is that what you want?

01:24:02.600 It's mocking people who are being destroyed for who they are.

01:24:08.420 And you know that that's true and you're ignoring it on purpose on behalf of, you know, people who are, who, whatever, anyway. 0.51

01:24:17.140 There's not a talent deficiency within this, this ethnic group. 1.00

01:24:20.400 It's almost too much though. 0.99

01:24:21.580 It's a kind of humiliation that I don't really understand why you would ever do that to somebody.

01:24:25.440 Yeah.

01:24:25.700 So you can't be surprised when there's an epidemic of what incels and hopeless young men who, who are opting out of the dating market, who are opting out of what?

01:24:36.520 Eventually you give up, I'm sure, if you apply to 10,000 jobs and you're algorithmically filtered out of consideration for a job.

01:24:43.400 I don't think there's been any attempt to fix any of that.

01:24:45.400 I don't think so.

01:24:46.940 At all.

01:24:47.460 I think the answer we've been given is you're not talented enough. 0.99

01:24:50.920 You're lazy. 0.98

01:24:52.000 We don't need you. 1.00

01:24:53.520 Here's an Indian, seemingly. 0.98

01:24:57.060 And we're going to sue Harvard for discriminating against Jews. 1.00

01:24:59.940 And the real problem is not the rapists, pedophiles in power. 1.00

01:25:04.000 It's Harvard discriminating against Jews. 1.00

01:25:05.440 Give me a break.

01:25:06.520 Pam Bonney, she tweeted that out.

01:25:08.240 I was like, come on, Pam.

01:25:10.440 Lock in, Pam.

01:25:11.580 Let's focus here, Pam.

01:25:13.580 No, I think this isn't, it's not just negligence.

01:25:17.580 It's hate.

01:25:17.980 It's hate, obviously.

01:25:19.560 It's hate.

01:25:20.900 So, but where does that leave the group that you're talking about?

01:25:24.260 Which voted for Trump, by the way, overwhelmingly. 0.74

01:25:26.900 Bag holders. 1.00

01:25:28.180 Yeah, so, but what, and then I, you know, Nick Fuentes, or Fuentes is only about Fuentes. 0.79

01:25:33.300 But at some point, there's going to be someone who is not just about himself, who actually wants to build a political movement that is way more radical than the Republican Party.

01:25:45.100 And that person is going to be huge among your generation.

01:25:50.660 Is that a fair prediction?

01:25:51.920 Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know the full political belief of, I don't know all the beliefs Fuentes has, for example.

01:25:58.380 But I think he's right about that young men are disaffected.

01:26:01.240 I'm not attacking Fuentes.

01:26:02.060 I'm just saying like Fuentes is only about Fuentes or whatever.

01:26:05.440 I mean, I don't know.

01:26:07.220 Ultimately, he talks about himself.

01:26:08.560 He's not avoidable, you know.

01:26:09.640 But he makes points that are true.

01:26:11.880 Absolutely.

01:26:12.680 A lot of them.

01:26:13.600 For sure.

01:26:14.120 And he is being, you know, it's like.

01:26:17.620 And points that ring true for a non-radical or someone who is.

01:26:20.040 They ring true for me.

01:26:20.820 That's why I interviewed him.

01:26:21.940 I don't agree with a lot of it.

01:26:23.360 I told him I didn't.

01:26:24.300 But in general, his critique that the whites are shafted.

01:26:27.740 For sure. 0.97

01:26:28.240 And that this Israel relationship is really sick.

01:26:30.480 And then everyone basically that voted for Trump is seemingly not getting anything to ask for.

01:26:34.260 Got it. I agree with all of that.

01:26:35.840 So that's all real.

01:26:36.960 My only point is people look at Fuentes and they're like, oh, you're the scariest thing that could happen.

01:26:41.500 Absolutely not. Yeah, yeah.

01:26:43.160 That's my point.

01:26:43.700 I don't know where it goes, right?

01:26:46.380 The energy has to go somewhere, right?

01:26:48.520 This is like Newton's, I don't know, second law, third law.

01:26:53.020 I only went to high school.

01:26:54.000 You tell me, Tucker.

01:26:56.040 The energy must be diverted elsewhere.

01:26:59.520 And a lot of young men are pissed off.

01:27:01.200 I think for a lot of young men, though, 0.99

01:27:02.860 they will just hibernate and jerk off 0.96

01:27:05.700 and decay in their basements, 0.99

01:27:08.240 in their parents' homes.

01:27:09.460 That is reality. 0.99

01:27:10.540 There will be a eugenics effect. 0.98

01:27:13.000 White men getting litigated 0.82

01:27:14.480 or filtered out of participation in society. 1.00

01:27:17.340 There will be an extinction event for sure.

01:27:21.200 That's inevitable, right?

01:27:22.860 But some of them might try to do something

01:27:24.460 a bit more bold and revolutionary, maybe.

01:27:27.020 But how does something like that even come into existence with the surveillance state?

01:27:32.060 And can you even, is the democracy the means by which my generation uplifts their quality of life?

01:27:41.500 Is that a possibility?

01:27:43.280 Because the Republicans clearly don't care.

01:27:45.360 The Democrats don't care.

01:27:47.060 Is there a third party alternative?

01:27:48.960 What does that look like?

01:27:49.660 I'm not sure.

01:27:51.440 But the two current options are insufficient.

01:27:55.020 You're making me emotional.

01:27:56.160 Really?

01:27:57.020 What you're saying is true.

01:28:00.060 Yeah, and I'm like, I mean, I think of myself as a pretty reasonable guy, right?

01:28:03.860 Like, I was politically illiterate in many ways.

01:28:06.420 I didn't think about this stuff.

01:28:07.960 I was making goofy YouTube videos in my early 20s from 18, 19, 20, 21.

01:28:14.400 It was only until I was about 22 years old until I even realized all this stuff was going on.

01:28:18.640 I didn't even think really about, you know, the George Floyd stuff that much.

01:28:25.240 But now it's unavoidable.

01:28:26.520 People say, why are you making everything so political?

01:28:29.840 They'll talk to their neighbors or their family members.

01:28:31.720 Why is everything so political?

01:28:32.940 And now it's unavoidable.

01:28:34.980 You have to consider the reality and the consequences of how your everyday life is being affected by these things.

01:28:40.720 So unfortunately, everyday people have a political opinion on everything right now.

01:28:44.540 And I think that's a tragedy more than a blessing.

01:28:48.500 It's not a win.

01:28:49.460 No.

01:28:49.800 It's not a win at all.

01:28:53.080 Well, I'm subscribing to you.

01:28:55.420 Thank you, Tucker.

01:28:56.120 Thank you.

01:28:56.520 Yeah.

01:28:56.840 That was awesome.

01:28:58.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.720 I really,

01:28:59.180 thank you for spending all this time.

01:29:00.340 Yeah.

01:29:00.640 Thanks for having me.

01:29:01.380 I appreciate it.

01:29:02.100 For sure.

The Tucker Carlson Show - May 08, 2026

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