The Tucker Carlson Show - November 10, 2025


US Government Admits Chemtrails Are Real (It's Worse Than You Think). Dane Wigington Reveals All.


Episode Stats

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1 hour and 10 minutes

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170.59822

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12,063

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953

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

What are those lines in the sky that you see trailing jets? What is that? Some people call them chemtrails. Others claim that somehow the U.S. government is spraying poison on the population.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's always the obvious questions that are so vigorously discouraged.
00:00:04.720 And one of the questions that's been the most discouraged over the past 30 years
00:00:08.500 are what are those lines in the sky that you see trailing jets?
00:00:13.860 What is that?
00:00:15.500 Some people call them chemtrails.
00:00:18.280 Claim that somehow the U.S. government is spraying poison on the population.
00:00:22.200 Those people are clearly crazy.
00:00:23.880 Wikipedia calls them crazy.
00:00:25.720 Every news outlet calls them crazy.
00:00:27.880 But the trails are still there.
00:00:30.000 And it's clearly not water vapor because that doesn't make sense at all.
00:00:33.040 So what are they?
00:00:35.080 We've spent the last six months trying to find someone credible who could explain that to us.
00:00:40.560 A serious, sane person with an engineering background who could tell us,
00:00:44.460 what are we looking at?
00:00:45.240 Because we're looking at something.
00:00:46.720 And I don't care what names you call me.
00:00:48.460 I still want to know what it is.
00:00:50.500 And we think we have found that person.
00:00:53.100 Dane Wigington of Northern California has been on this subject for almost 30 years
00:00:58.200 and has compiled what we believe, after looking at it pretty carefully,
00:01:01.840 is the most comprehensive account of what we're seeing.
00:01:06.300 And it's very bad.
00:01:07.580 Dane, thanks a lot for joining us.
00:01:30.660 I never knew what to think of this topic, chemtrails or contrails or the stripes in the sky that
00:01:38.120 linger after airplanes pass.
00:01:40.600 I don't remember them as a child.
00:01:43.040 They're very common now.
00:01:44.540 I've heard people say there's something up, something nefarious going on.
00:01:47.960 So I go to Wikipedia to see what they say.
00:01:51.240 And I want to read you the Wikipedia entry, the first part of it, on this question, okay?
00:01:55.600 You may have seen this.
00:01:56.620 And I'm quoting from Wikipedia as of this morning.
00:01:58.580 The chemtrail conspiracy theory is the erroneous belief that long-lasting condensation trails
00:02:05.600 left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are actually, quote, chemtrails consisting of chemical
00:02:11.120 or biological agents sprayed for nefarious purposes undisclosed to the general public, period.
00:02:15.420 Believers in this conspiracy theory say that while normal contrails dissipate relatively
00:02:20.840 quickly, contrails that linger must contain additional substances.
00:02:25.440 Those who subscribe to the theory speculate that the purpose of the chemical release may
00:02:30.180 be solar radiation management, weather modification, psychological manipulation, human population
00:02:36.440 control, biological or chemical warfare, or testing of a biological or chemical agent on
00:02:41.300 the population and that the trails are causing respiratory illnesses and other health problems.
00:02:45.420 So I read that.
00:02:46.780 And the purpose, of course, of that paragraph is not to illuminate what this might be,
00:02:50.540 but to attack anyone who speculates about what it might be.
00:02:54.840 It's a form itself of psychological warfare, of propaganda.
00:02:58.480 And when I read that, I said to myself, there's clearly something going on because the people
00:03:03.580 who control Wikipedia, which would be the intel agencies, as we know, don't want anyone
00:03:08.360 to talk about this.
00:03:09.520 So with that lengthy preface explaining why this conversation is taking place, I will turn
00:03:15.940 it over to you to explain what are these lines in the sky that we have all seen.
00:03:20.540 There's sprayed particulate dispersion.
00:03:24.700 There is no theory in this equation.
00:03:27.440 Bottom line is when we have up-close film footage of these aircraft at altitude, KC-10s, KC-135s,
00:03:33.180 C-17 Globemasters with nozzles visible turning dispersions on and off.
00:03:38.400 This is not, quote, condensation.
00:03:40.540 GeoengineeringWatch.org is the only entity that has taken a NOAA Flying Lab, National Oceanic
00:03:46.200 and Atmospheric Administration Flying Lab.
00:03:47.940 Top scientists sent it to sample what these heavy aircraft are emitting at altitude.
00:03:51.980 That sample was processed at Rinsler Polytechnic in New York, one of the world's most renowned
00:03:56.660 testing institutions.
00:03:57.720 We found exactly what we knew we would find, starting with aluminum nanoparticles.
00:04:02.520 Bioavailable free-form aluminum is toxic to all life, period.
00:04:05.800 That element is named in numerous climate engineering patents as part of a geoengineering dispersion
00:04:11.760 element.
00:04:12.780 So again, there's no theory involved in any of this.
00:04:15.440 What's so incredibly profound in this equation, Tucker, you have the entire global climate
00:04:22.620 science community, governments all over the world saying we need to put aircraft in the
00:04:26.040 air immediately to disperse light scattering particles.
00:04:29.100 We use the science terms at geoengineeringwatch.org because the chemtrails term is the instant marginalization
00:04:34.160 term by design.
00:04:35.340 You bring that term up, any elected official won't talk to you anymore.
00:04:38.640 Media will immediately marginalize you.
00:04:41.540 Solar radiation management, stratospheric aerosol injection, cloud albedo.
00:04:45.500 Enhancement, climate engineering.
00:04:47.300 If we stick to the science terms, they can't marginalize us.
00:04:50.160 So again, this elephant in the sky that we are told is a conspiracy theory is exactly
00:04:56.940 what the entire global climate science community says we need to deploy immediately to slow down
00:05:00.840 the warming of the planet.
00:05:02.000 Stated purpose to deflect some of the sun's incoming thermal energy.
00:05:04.980 We know these programs, not surprisingly, are making a bad situation worse, not better.
00:05:09.900 And, Tucker, they're being used as a form of warfare.
00:05:13.740 And we know that.
00:05:14.520 We have countries like Iran, constantly demonized, of course, as you well know.
00:05:20.340 Immediately after 9-11, we have the list of countries to be targeted given to General
00:05:25.440 Wesley Clark, a list that clearly existed before 9-11 even occurred.
00:05:29.920 Subsequently, every one of those countries, every one of them, endured a once-in-1,000-year
00:05:35.380 drought.
00:05:36.360 Statistically, mathematically, that's impossible without climate intervention operations.
00:05:40.000 And we have the leader of Iran on the floor of the UN, on film, on the record, stating
00:05:44.400 NATO was cutting off their precipitation.
00:05:46.900 We have Iranian top scientists recently stating NATO's been doing this for 40 years.
00:05:51.480 You just destabilize the food supply by destabilizing the rain, and you destabilize the population.
00:05:58.820 So, you just said a bunch of amazing things, all of which I just want to say sound plausible
00:06:05.380 to me.
00:06:06.880 But let's just back up a little bit.
00:06:09.100 So, you're calling this geoengineering.
00:06:12.500 The term chemtrails, you say, is a propaganda term designed to discredit people who ask
00:06:21.180 sincere questions about what the hell am I looking at.
00:06:24.040 Correct, because if they Google that term, they'll get what you got.
00:06:26.820 And that's what we try to avoid.
00:06:28.140 If anybody is unfamiliar with the issue and they Google that term, that's the end of their
00:06:31.280 search, most likely.
00:06:32.720 So, we try to point chess, semantics matter in this case.
00:06:36.160 Okay, so the first line of the Wikipedia entry points out something true, which is that when
00:06:44.120 you look at these lines in the sky and you're told, well, it's just condensation, it's water
00:06:49.420 vapor, you know that maybe that's not the right explanation because water vapor dissipates
00:06:56.260 and doesn't remain in the sky for like 20 minutes after the plane leaves.
00:07:02.040 So, that suggests bigger particles in the mist, that particulate matter in the mist.
00:07:09.660 Is that correct?
00:07:11.460 Exactly correct.
00:07:12.220 If you see, for example, breath condensing, if you see some researchers in the Arctic and
00:07:15.960 their breath is condensing because it's very cold, do they get a cloud starting to form
00:07:19.020 over their head?
00:07:19.880 If you have a vehicle that's exhaust is condensing in the morning, you have a freeway with giant
00:07:24.500 clouds hanging over it from the condensation from the vehicles in some cold region?
00:07:28.440 No, that's not how condensation behaves.
00:07:31.220 And again, my journey into this whole battle of now 27 years, but when I built my off-grid
00:07:38.900 home in Northern California, middle of the wilderness, it was the cover of the world's
00:07:42.520 largest renewable energy magazine, they have solar, wind, and hydro, and I was losing on
00:07:47.660 some days from what these aircraft are emitting, 50, 60, even 70% of my solar update from what
00:07:53.900 these aircraft were emitting.
00:07:55.260 I knew that could not be condensation.
00:07:57.780 When I began to research, I was very surprised at the mountain of information on geoengineering,
00:08:02.320 solar radiation management, and I looked for primary elements.
00:08:05.880 I began to test my precipitation.
00:08:07.880 I hoped I would not find these elements in my rain because I knew if I did, it would change
00:08:11.840 the entire course of my life.
00:08:12.960 I cannot look the other way.
00:08:14.980 I came up with seven parts per billion in my first rain test over the next 18 months because
00:08:20.080 I took that long in researching before I was willing to speak out on this issue.
00:08:24.220 At the end of 18 months, I had single rain events with 3,450 parts per billion of aluminum
00:08:29.000 in my rain.
00:08:30.060 This is bioavailable free-form aluminum, which is toxic to all life forms, period.
00:08:35.220 Primary element named in climate engineering patents, and we have the world's most recognized
00:08:38.640 geoengineers specifically stating on film, on the record, their goal of using aluminum in
00:08:45.040 these programs because of its high reflectivity with no consideration of the consequences.
00:08:49.200 That's how I got into this battle.
00:08:51.080 So if I understand what you're saying, what we're watching is an attempt, I assume by governments,
00:08:59.000 and we'll get into who's doing this, to mitigate the effects of climate change, to reflect back
00:09:06.020 rays from the sun so that the earth doesn't warm at a pace that is dangerous to whatever they
00:09:12.520 think is dangerous to. But this is a global warming mitigation effort. Is that correct?
00:09:18.980 That is the stated purpose. We know this is...
00:09:21.540 That is the stated purpose. So I think that's plausible because there is so much energy
00:09:25.660 commitment, sincere commitment in some cases, obviously fake commitment in others, and so
00:09:32.300 much money behind this effort to mitigate global warming that that makes absolute sense. It is a
00:09:37.060 religion. And you're saying that you were not originally aware of this or interested in it,
00:09:42.740 but because you live off grid and you derive a lot of your electricity from solar and you clearly have
00:09:47.620 an engineer brain, you were wondering like, why the hell is my solar not working correctly? And that got
00:09:52.680 you into this process of learning about it?
00:09:56.080 Correct. And I have friends in the solar industry and who, off the record, inform me that some of the
00:10:03.840 commercial solar plants are producing half their design output. And they won't talk about why
00:10:09.200 because they don't want to lose subsidies. So again, this is a very known element in many fields.
00:10:16.440 In fact, with the nation's weathermen, National Weather Service and NOAA, National Oceanic and
00:10:21.740 Atmospheric Administration, there is an illegal federal gag order on all agency operations with those two
00:10:27.580 entities. Why would our government feel the need to gag the weathermen? I had a NOAA scientist state to
00:10:32.780 my face, quote, we all know this is going on. We have no First Amendment protection. We don't know
00:10:36.500 what to do. So the bottom line is, let's all just pretend this isn't going on while it's virtually
00:10:41.960 dismantling the planet's primary life support systems and ubiquitously contaminating everything
00:10:47.140 everywhere. And not just talking about aluminum. We have in lab tests, and again, we've done hundreds
00:10:52.200 of lab tests. We did 500 working with the University of Minnesota, an internationally recognized
00:10:56.980 agricultural institution. We have aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, surfactants,
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00:14:45.100 So who's doing this specifically? Ultimately, all roads lead to those who print the money. But we know
00:14:54.120 as far as the coordinating entities, certainly DOD, DARPA. And we have documents to prove the
00:15:02.500 existence of these programs going back decades, documents hundreds of pages long. We have an
00:15:06.960 800-page U.S. Senate document from 1978 outlining the scope and scale of these programs then,
00:15:13.360 specifically calling for intergovernmental cooperation even between, quote, otherwise
00:15:17.920 adversarial nations because of the cross-border ramifications of these programs. You can't just
00:15:23.260 geoengineer of your own country. Who's the biggest player? Obviously, the United States of America
00:15:28.060 because of the size of our military. The U.S. military has three times more aerial tankers,
00:15:34.380 which are the primary aircraft used in these operations, three times more than all other
00:15:40.040 militaries in the world combined. And if I could back up to the whole condensation trail narrative
00:15:44.580 again, which is perhaps one of the greatest lies ever perpetrated on populations all over the world,
00:15:48.720 all military tankers and all commercial aircraft were equipped with what's known as a high-bypass
00:15:53.840 turbofan jet engine. That's a jet-powered fan. 90% of the air that moves through that engine is not
00:16:00.020 combusted. So by design, that engine is nearly incapable of producing any condensation trail except
00:16:05.120 under rare and extreme circumstances, which are diminishing by the day because of the warming that's
00:16:10.840 occurring in the troposphere. So much warming. We've had two former military pilots that fly
00:16:18.820 private aircraft. Important people have contacted us at geoengineerwatch.org. In both cases, they were
00:16:26.180 off the coast of the Pacific Northwest and their aircraft were forced into emergency auto descents
00:16:31.560 because the air outside that aircraft was 45 to 50 degrees above what it should have been. The air was not
00:16:38.540 dense enough to carry those aircraft. These people are very, very alarmed, but very afraid to speak
00:16:43.580 out. Well, that's an amazing, that's an amazing fact. And it, and it points up something that I think
00:16:49.040 is indisputably true, which is the climate is changing. Why it's changing is a, is a whole separate
00:16:54.100 set of debates. Of course, it's always changed. Climate injury alone, though, if I could elaborate,
00:16:58.520 I mean, climate injury alone, if, and I'm not negating the other sources of damage to the planet,
00:17:02.900 we've been very poor stewards, but our point at geoengineerwatch.org is how could anybody from any
00:17:08.340 perspective? And the environmental left is the most reluctant to face this issue. And we know why,
00:17:13.380 Tucker, because they don't want to lose their 501c3 nonprofits. Our attorneys at geoengineerwatch.org
00:17:18.440 spoke to attorneys through every major environmental group, Greenpeace, Sierra Cub, WWF, all of them.
00:17:24.140 They will not address this issue because they don't want to lose their nonprofit status. Is that not
00:17:27.880 criminal hypocrisy? So we're stating in the case of trapping more heat than it deflects, causing far
00:17:34.340 more harm than any perceived good. They're simply using it as a weapon under the guise of trying to
00:17:39.120 mitigate the climate. So again, these operations are taking us from the frying pan into the fire,
00:17:44.900 so to speak. So again, the greatest, most damaging form of human activity on the planet at this moment
00:17:51.980 in time must be considered these operations, climate engineering. Well, sure. I mean, geoengineering
00:17:58.380 by its very nature is just like textbook hubris, where you think you're God and you're in charge
00:18:04.560 of the weather and the planet. No, you're just some lumpy, furry schmuck living out an incredibly
00:18:11.180 short lifespan with no ability to make anything better because you're not God. The whole mindset
00:18:17.760 is the mindset that gets us to nuclear war. So I'm opposed to it on those grounds. But
00:18:22.340 before we ascend too much higher, let's just come back down a little bit and to the specifics. So
00:18:28.560 where are these aircraft seem to be everywhere in the United States? Where are they taking off from?
00:18:33.480 Where do these chemicals come from? The aluminum particulate, the rest that you did, the magnesium,
00:18:37.800 all the rest you described. Like what's kind of the chain that gets us to the stripes in the sky that
00:18:44.580 we see? Aircraft are taking off from countless locations. We're aware of a number of military bases
00:18:50.660 where we know they're deploying from. We also have commercial aircraft with commercial markings that
00:18:58.420 we know are being used in these operations. We know that because we have filmed footage of these
00:19:02.960 aircraft, retrofit nozzles mounted on the wing pylons. We have up-close photographs aimed into the
00:19:08.640 exhaust jet stream to make this look like, quote, condensation. We are not implicating commercial
00:19:12.580 pilots or personnel, but we are communicating with them. Some commercial pilots that distribute our
00:19:18.280 printed materials in pilot lunchrooms, for example, covertly, because they know their aircraft are
00:19:23.180 being used. These are automated systems. They carry a small payload. You might remember about in the year
00:19:29.200 2000, the weight of the aircraft became a very big deal. How much luggage you carried on, how much
00:19:34.460 weight you carried on. That appears to be when this was implemented. And we also know that the DOD has
00:19:40.640 leased a significant number of commercial aircraft with commercial markings. Why would the DOD
00:19:45.860 need or want that? And again, for the base material, because we're talking about an extraordinary
00:19:52.960 amount of material here, based on our testing with the University of Minnesota, again, about 500 lab
00:19:57.840 tests there, and extrapolating how much material was in the precipitation, projecting that globally,
00:20:03.240 it appears something in the range of 40 to 60 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed
00:20:09.480 annually in skies all over the globe. And the smaller the particle, the more toxic it is, the more
00:20:14.960 harmful it is, the more bioavailable it is. And all the official air quality testing, by design, doesn't even
00:20:22.060 look for these elements, let alone disclose them. So official air quality testing is PM10, 10 microns,
00:20:28.300 occasionally PM2.5. Those are boulders compared to a nanoparticle. You can fit up to 100,000 nanoparticles
00:20:35.480 across the width of a single human hair. They're inconceivably small. And the reason they use such small
00:20:41.260 particles is because they stay aloft longer. And that's the goal. Keep the particles suspended in the
00:20:46.480 atmosphere. And there's more volumetric forcing. There's more surface area, the smaller the particle for a given
00:20:51.680 amount of material. So it appears, and we have a published study on this, there is a peer-reviewed published
00:20:57.640 study that implicates coal fly ash as a base material for these operations, because it contains many of the
00:21:04.360 elements the climate engineers feel they need to disperse in our skies. And it provides plausible
00:21:10.420 deniability, and it gets rid of a waste product that they're always trying to get rid of. There's
00:21:15.600 other elements added. American Elements Corporation appears to be one of the primary suppliers for these
00:21:20.720 operations. But again, the fact that this can go on in our skies, and the mountain of data that exists
00:21:26.960 on this, and the continued pretending by the so-called climate science community that this is ongoing,
00:21:32.000 is mind-numbing. And they won't be able to hide this for much longer, Tucker. I want to stress that.
00:21:37.460 These programs will be forced to light. And if I could end with this, when those pretend, again,
00:21:43.020 like the Wikipedia definition you read, that this is some sort of an outlandish conspiracy,
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00:25:43.420 hubris that destroys the world. And Johnson was, of course, whether he knew it or not, committed to
00:25:50.680 helping destroy the world. So, an evil man, I think, by any metric. So, I'm not necessarily
00:25:58.160 surprised. What I am surprised by, however, is the fact that this program, the one you're
00:26:04.060 describing, could have continued for over 60 years at this scale, continental scale, global
00:26:10.140 scale, and no one knows about it or talks about it. I mean, we have a huge government, lots
00:26:17.240 of elected officials. What do they say when you ask them? This is a bit like the safe and
00:26:22.580 effective narrative, isn't it? Let's all have the entire medical community pretending that
00:26:29.120 injecting toxic heavy metals is safe and effective. And they still pretend to this day that that
00:26:34.820 is the case when it doesn't take a large intellect or an educated individual to understand that's
00:26:42.320 going to do harm. And yet, that narrative still continues to this day. So, again,
00:26:47.240 this mass psychosis of denial is mind-numbing, but you can't hide this for much longer. And we do
00:26:54.300 have the climate science community now starting to speak out, starting to state how incredibly
00:26:59.200 catastrophic these programs would be if they were implemented. They're not outright admitting it yet,
00:27:05.020 but they're getting closer. And if you look at historical precedent, when did the U.S. military start
00:27:08.680 its modification in hurricanes? And there's some interesting things going on on the hurricane front
00:27:13.260 this year as in none of them. They're being deflected. And people that pretend that you can't
00:27:18.780 manipulate a weather system of that size, that's absolute nonsense. The science completely disputes
00:27:23.620 that. The U.S. military commenced its hurricane modification operations in 1947 with Project Cirrus.
00:27:31.040 And even the results of that initial small-scale testing appeared to have so much effect on a
00:27:38.280 cyclonic rotation that there were lawsuits pending from that, at which time they began to be more
00:27:43.520 covert about their operations. And you said you'll notice that there aren't hurricanes in Florida.
00:27:48.180 So, the last few years, Florida, the West Coast of Florida in particular, just been hammered,
00:27:53.140 absolutely destroyed. You know, billions, tens of billions of dollars of damage done by hurricanes,
00:27:59.100 no hurricanes this year. And you're saying that that's not an accident. Is that what you're saying?
00:28:04.920 I'm saying that we know that technology exists to steer storms of that size. And let me make a
00:28:11.660 comparison. You could have a 10-year-old child divert the course of a 100,000-ton freight train
00:28:19.680 by pulling a lever, literally, and changing the tracks. That's correct. And that's kind of small
00:28:24.920 input, massive output that you can have with these cyclonic rotations when they have the ability to
00:28:29.340 manipulate atmospheric pressure zones. This is undisputed patented science. So, why would we
00:28:35.680 think they're not using these type of operations? We have historical precedent. Project Popeye in
00:28:40.020 Vietnam was so successful at controlling precipitation, this is a historical record, that by 1976, they passed
00:28:47.820 the NMOD treaties forbidding weather manipulation for wartime purposes, but not over a country's own
00:28:53.820 population. So, if we look at the cop... Can I ask you to stop? I'm sorry, you're throwing...
00:28:59.580 Please. Please. I'm so ignorant on this topic, but I'm suddenly very interested that I just want to
00:29:04.540 make sure we don't miss anything. Operation Popeye? Is that what you called it in Vietnam?
00:29:08.860 Correct.
00:29:09.860 What? I've never even heard of that, I'm embarrassed to say. What is it? What was it?
00:29:13.500 Very easily researched historical record. U.S. military was so successful at controlling
00:29:18.140 precipitation over Vietnam that the international community was very concerned about this, at least
00:29:25.160 on the surface, and they passed environmental modification treaties in 1976, international
00:29:30.280 treaties forbidding weather manipulation in wartime. So, again, when people claim this is conspiracy,
00:29:36.020 we don't have this kind of power and control, and they tried to muddy the climate engineering issue
00:29:41.640 as being the localized, publicized cloud seeding operations. Those are two completely different
00:29:49.480 animals. And we see even some state legislators doing the same there. And we're trying to correct
00:29:54.040 that at Geoengineering Watch.org because we're working with numerous state legislators now and have
00:29:58.220 been. There's legislation pending in 36 states to ban geoengineering over their skies. Tennessee and
00:30:04.140 Florida have already done so. But we're correcting them and giving them an accurate compass heading
00:30:10.700 that the localized, publicized cloud seeding operations, the kind which they tried to implicate
00:30:16.620 in the Texas floods that killed so many young Americans as being connected to a localized cloud
00:30:23.380 seeding operation, which is virtually meaningless in comparison to climate engineering. It's an ant
00:30:29.280 state compared to an elephant. So, intentionally, those that control media and are trying to control
00:30:35.820 the narrative are trying to confuse these two issues. They are completely different. They're trying
00:30:40.280 to mask or hide the elephant in the sky, which is climate engineering operations. So, again, these
00:30:47.720 programs are historical record. The Chinese government is so successful at, for example, engineering snowstorms.
00:30:54.920 Tucker, do you remember the blizzard in New Orleans this January? Do you remember that?
00:31:00.280 No, I don't.
00:31:01.860 There was a blizzard in New Orleans, first time in recorded history. There was a blizzard in Florida,
00:31:06.080 blizzards on the Gulf Coast. That was January 21st, by the way. That's an interesting date to have that
00:31:10.840 happen. These are demonstrations of what climate engineering can do. And the Chinese government has
00:31:15.300 long since openly stated they were engineering snowstorms with endothermic reacting elements. These are
00:31:21.660 patented elements that can literally transition, which should be a liquid precipitation event, a rain
00:31:27.900 event, into snow. And these elements, if people understand they have a first aid kit that sits on
00:31:32.660 their shelf at room temperature for 20 years, you mix the coal pack together, you have ice instantly.
00:31:36.640 That's an endothermic reacting element. That's being traded into cloud moisture. And they were so
00:31:42.500 successful in China, they caused billions of dollars of damage to Beijing, at which time they began to be
00:31:46.880 less open about this, everybody covered it. CNN, Popular Science, The Guardian, everyone. But if
00:31:53.900 you bring that up here, suddenly you're a tinfoil hat wearing nutcase. On that same day, while it was
00:31:59.680 blizzarding in New Orleans, in the polar regions, Alaska, Greenland, Iceland, Siberia, it was above
00:32:06.680 freezing and raining. Do you remember the deep freeze in Texas, Tucker, a few years ago, five years ago,
00:32:13.540 something like that? Yes. Very well. Yeah. It shut down a lot of their grid. Correct. So when it was
00:32:19.460 below zero in Dallas, it was 33 degrees warmer at the North Pole. Think about that. And that's what
00:32:28.520 we're not told. So when you have, let's look at the COP climate conferences. You know what those are?
00:32:33.920 The international climate conferences that we have periodically. Those conferences are not to change
00:32:39.600 business as usual. They are to force countries to actively or passively participate in climate
00:32:45.040 engineering. So at some of those conferences, the Cancun conference, the Copenhagen conference,
00:32:50.060 we had record low temperatures at the time of the conference in spite of above normal temperatures in
00:32:54.920 all surrounding areas. That's a demonstration of what climate engineering can do. So back to the
00:32:59.720 hurricanes. The deflection of hurricanes so far this year, is that a demonstration to other countries
00:33:07.060 as well as to the power that the U.S. military has to manipulate atmospheric pressure zones. And
00:33:13.000 again, these are patented processes. For listeners that have heard of HAARP in Alaska, I'm not sure if
00:33:17.720 you ever heard of that, Tucker, HAARP? No. Okay. Images of that exist. There's no dispute as to its
00:33:25.660 function or what the patents outline that it can do. Even Discovery Channel did a long episode,
00:33:32.140 which they've seen to be taken off the air now, called Controlling the Weather. But that's a weapon
00:33:37.600 of mass destruction. They play it off as a benign research facility. That's an ionosphere heater. It
00:33:43.020 transmits 3.6 million watts of power to the electrically charged ionosphere causing an electrical
00:33:47.860 chain reaction. They're literally using the atmosphere as a physics lab, which we know they do,
00:33:52.640 right, Tucker? You know of Project Starfish Prime and Project Fishbowl, if you've heard of those.
00:33:56.460 Those are the U.S. military's experiments with detonating hydrogen bombs in the magnetosphere,
00:34:02.520 which they thought could collapse the whole atmosphere. Did that stop them? No, it didn't. So
00:34:06.540 installations like HAARP are used to control atmospheric pressure zones back to the hurricanes.
00:34:12.780 If you can manipulate atmospheric pressure zones with these directional ionosphere heaters, you can
00:34:17.740 literally manipulate their path. And is that what we see going on? Is that a demonstration to others
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00:36:20.640 A couple different threads. One, the U.S. military, in this country, our military, runs propaganda
00:36:27.240 operations against our population. And they do it on social media. And of course, they do it through
00:36:32.780 the conventional media as well. And they have for a long time. But it's certainly gotten more
00:36:36.600 aggressive. So that's illegal. It's immoral. Anyone who participates to that should be in prison.
00:36:42.680 But it happens. And unfortunately, we haven't been able to stop it. So we know that they lie
00:36:49.560 to our population about a whole bunch of things, including what they're doing.
00:36:54.160 Two, we know that in the past 15 years, you see these kind of fat effeminate generals all of a
00:36:59.500 sudden talking about how climate change is like one of the main national security threats and like
00:37:04.280 the purpose of the U.S. military to fight climate change. There's been a lot of that. And it's very
00:37:07.880 confusing to people like me who think of the purpose of the U.S. military as like
00:37:13.180 shooting people trying to invade our country. Like what does climate change have to do with
00:37:17.080 national security? But they've been saying that a lot. And your description suddenly makes it all
00:37:25.520 make sense. Like a lot of what they do is trying to mitigate or saying they're trying to mitigate
00:37:31.300 the effects of climate change. I mean, I guess this is more out in the open than I realized until
00:37:36.420 right now. I would call it masking the effects because they're certainly not mitigating it.
00:37:42.280 Everything they do, every short term toxic surface cool down comes at the cost of a worsened overall
00:37:47.700 warming and damage to the planet. And you're completely correct, Tucker, completely correct in the
00:37:52.420 U.S. military top brass statements on the record that they consider the collapsing climate system,
00:37:58.580 the greatest national security threat of all. So when you have so many military bases at sea level,
00:38:05.180 some of which are already being inundated, that's a part of the problem. But you have other elements,
00:38:09.780 for example, and this is from a perspective of the existence of the human race and how much longer
00:38:16.240 we're going to be here. The ozone layer is near functional collapse right now. It's not the
00:38:20.960 hairspray cans. Single greatest damaging factor is climate engineering, period. Not just the
00:38:26.660 oxidizing particles that are being dispersed in our atmosphere, but the manipulation of those
00:38:31.820 particles with extremely powerful frequency transmissions. So we know that of all the towers
00:38:38.040 being put up everywhere for, quote, communications, fake trees and, you know, all the different forms they
00:38:43.800 come in. We know that many of those installations are being supplied with 10 times more power than
00:38:49.400 they need. That's part of my background in the electrical field. I know people that work on these
00:38:52.840 towers, 10 times more power than they need for communications. Why do they need that much more
00:38:58.180 power, thousand percent more power? And we know these facilities are being used to manipulate the
00:39:03.500 electrically conductive atmospheric particulates. There's a repelling effect caused from these
00:39:07.720 transmissions because we can see the effect on water vapor loops. So if we look at the flash flooding
00:39:14.240 in Texas, as an example, that killed so many young Americans, we captured in real time. And I'm still
00:39:21.980 surprised we have access to these data loops because we have access to the transmissions from
00:39:26.900 the NEXRAD network that are used to manipulate weather systems. And what happened in that case
00:39:32.400 was because of the repelling effect of those transmissions. And picture this scenario,
00:39:38.980 when there was that convective cell over that location and transmitters energized all around
00:39:45.420 that cell. And we recorded that. It's posted online. That in effect held that cell in one place. It
00:39:51.580 precipitated out in one location. We can speculate about agendas and objectives. We can't know that.
00:39:57.520 But the fact that that storm was manipulated is beyond dispute. Same with Hurricane Helene. We recorded
00:40:02.720 that in real time. The frequency transmissions manipulating that storm and steering into place.
00:40:08.140 It's indisputable. These are patented technologies. Hurricane Harvey, we recorded that.
00:40:12.780 How did meteorologists know seven days in advance that Hurricane Harvey was going to go where it went
00:40:18.540 and sit there for three days? How could they possibly know that? Frequency transmissions held
00:40:23.780 it there. We recorded that in real time. And again, these people are reading scripts, Tucker. They're
00:40:31.180 literally reading scripts passed down to them by Raytheon, private defense contractors Raytheon and Lockheed
00:40:36.540 Martin that are neck deep in climate engineering, everything. Patents, operations, everything.
00:40:41.800 And they literally supply and provide the, quote, forecast, which is the scheduled weather to the
00:40:49.140 National Weather Service in NOAA, our nation's weathermen that passes all the way down. And local
00:40:53.700 meteorologists simply, they know how long their leash is. They're protecting their paychecks and pensions.
00:40:59.340 They tow the line as well, just like the safe and effective in the medical community. Everybody just
00:41:02.740 tows the line because they don't want to disrupt their personal paradigm. These storms are being
00:41:07.040 steered and manipulated, period. That's beyond dispute.
00:41:11.400 I'm glad you keep bringing up the COVID vax because it would be hard for my middle-aged brain to
00:41:16.580 accept a lie at this scale. Like, how could you do that? How could you hide something this big,
00:41:23.720 this profound from an entire population? Except I just saw it five years ago with the COVID vax,
00:41:30.240 which was like a total lie. And now there's no dispute about the fact that they lied about it,
00:41:35.080 but no one was ever punished and most people believed it. So I know for a fact what you're
00:41:39.960 describing is possible. Can you, well, actually before I forget, let me ask what, so you, who pays
00:41:47.940 you to do this? Like this sounds, this is quite an operation that you're running. You're clearly,
00:41:53.980 I guess not in it for the money. Like this is a bigger movement than I was aware until right now.
00:42:01.840 So you're running lab tests on rainwater. You're researching this actively. Like,
00:42:09.040 is this a volunteer effort? How and why are you doing this?
00:42:14.240 Because I can find no greater point for existing. How can I possibly look the other way? I was
00:42:18.860 restoring habitat in Northern California, east side of Lake Shasta, habitat that was decimated
00:42:23.560 by irresponsible logging practices. I wanted to do that the rest of my life. I wanted to plant trees
00:42:28.260 and watch them grow the rest of my life. Ah, good for God bless you. I mean, there's no greater
00:42:34.300 solitude than what I was doing, but how was I to continue doing that knowing what I knew? When
00:42:40.320 the solar output reduction happened that I mentioned earlier, and I began to test rain,
00:42:48.160 knowing the implications of toxic rain, rain that contained aluminum, by the way, aluminum in regard
00:42:53.400 to not just killing soil microbiome, but tree root systems. This is peer reviewed study. Since that
00:43:00.180 bioavailable aluminum, they shut down nutrient uptake. So the trees dry a slow protracted death
00:43:05.320 and all official agencies blame beetles. The trees are dying because of the beetles. That's all we hear.
00:43:11.180 And the bottom line is beetles are a symptom of a sick, dead, dying tree. My father was an arborist. I know
00:43:17.060 trees. I love trees. When I was in kindergarten, they had to come out after recess and drag me out of the
00:43:21.700 tree because I didn't want to come down. Yeah, I feel the same way. I mean, with no trees, no people.
00:43:27.720 That's simple, right? That's right. So how was I to continue doing that? I can't. I can't look myself
00:43:33.720 in the mirror. I can't look my children in the eyes. How could I not do this? And if we carry this further,
00:43:38.280 Tucker, you know the bees are collapsing, right? Oh, of course. I know very well.
00:43:42.240 So we know this year we were told 70% collapse this year. That's staggering. That's incredibly alarming.
00:43:50.060 But what's the real figure? The real figure is that's a 70% collapse of the 20% that was remaining.
00:43:56.460 We're down to single digit percentages of pollinators left right now. We know insect populations have declined.
00:44:03.960 This is terrestrial and aquatic insect, 80 to 90% globally.
00:44:07.940 Very noticeable. And if you don't believe it, remember the windshield on your parent's station
00:44:13.020 wagon as a child in the summertime was covered in bugs. And that is not, I drive in a rural area
00:44:18.880 every night and no bugs. That's real. No bugs, no bugs, no people. Also, we publicized this in 2012
00:44:25.980 with my work with former government scientists that could speak out because they're retired.
00:44:30.920 And the science community tried to marginalize us. And now they've had to admit to it. If your
00:44:35.780 listeners search insect apocalypse, they'll find the alarms going off all over the globe because
00:44:39.580 this translates to plankton as well. No plankton, no people. We have period science studying now for
00:44:44.320 the Atlantic. Plankton population is down 90%, 90. Other oceans not far behind. That's the greatest
00:44:51.680 oxygen producer on the planet. That is the base of life on earth, plankton. We are on a human race
00:44:58.140 right now, Tucker. I've used this example before, but it sends a message. It's very accurate. It's like
00:45:03.880 occupants of a car parked on the railroad track. The train is seconds from impact, lights flashing,
00:45:10.120 horn blaring, and they're trying to decide what station to put the radio on. I mean, no matter
00:45:15.280 what other issues we're facing, and I would argue power structure maneuvering right now from
00:45:19.080 conflict zones to carnage zones, many other factors are directly related to the unfolding
00:45:25.440 and accelerating biosphere collapse, which climate engineering is fueling, not mitigating. It's fueling
00:45:31.880 it, and they will not let go of this covert weapon of control. It is the crown jewel weapon with which
00:45:37.200 they can, have been, and are bringing populations to their knees, including our own, without those
00:45:43.120 populations ever even knowing they're under assault. They're not going to let go of this weapon.
00:45:47.520 In regard to our military brothers and sisters that are participating in this, because many ask that
00:45:51.460 question, why would they? But the bottom line is, and I've heard you say, I just heard you cite this,
00:45:57.500 and I thank you for doing so, that our military brothers and sisters took an oath to protect
00:46:01.060 their populations. I heard this on a former presentation you just made, to protect their
00:46:05.900 populations from all threats, foreign and domestic. So they're being compartmentalized, and they're
00:46:10.820 being told that these programs are some benevolent, necessary operation. Just like the pilots in
00:46:16.140 Vietnam, I'm sure were told when they were spraying Agent Orange on everybody, they're not told this is
00:46:21.020 going to kill your comrade on the ground. Of course they're not told that. So here we are.
00:46:25.420 Yeah. And I think in a lot of cases, people don't know. They don't think it through. I mean,
00:46:30.900 again, they're so high on this false feeling of omnipotence, like we're in charge, we have the
00:46:38.880 technology, we can make things better. I mean, people delude themselves. I think good people,
00:46:43.820 I know good people delude themselves into committing evil because, you know, they think they have this
00:46:49.620 power that they actually don't have. So, okay, the bees start disappearing, the bats, as you know,
00:46:55.420 of course, insects, plankton, these are all phenomena that most people are not going to
00:47:01.020 notice because they live in cities, they're not in touch with bees, okay, or insects. But the trees
00:47:06.580 dying is very obvious. I mean, these are, you know, plants that live for 100 years, all of a sudden
00:47:13.320 they're dying, the fir trees are dying. Give us a sense of American forestry right now, like how are
00:47:21.140 the trees in this country? I think this, the more important statistic might be globally at this
00:47:28.820 point because we have that statistic. Tree cover is, has declined since pre-civilization baselines,
00:47:38.240 66%, 66% gone. The remaining one third is dead and dying. Trees, we've changed atmospheric chemistry
00:47:50.400 so much. Forests do not smell like forests anymore. Anybody who knows trees and knows what forests
00:47:56.700 once smelled like, knows that that scent is gone. Why is it gone? Because of the now intense UV
00:48:04.200 radiation that's bombarding the planet. And we're getting, by the way, UVC in the surface. I mentioned
00:48:08.580 the ozone layer collapse, climate engineering, single greatest factor. And the climate science
00:48:12.440 community acknowledges this, by the way, Tucker. They acknowledge openly, if we geoengineers, if we
00:48:17.180 haven't been for 80 years already, by the way, these programs are immediately deployed after World War II.
00:48:21.360 That's how long they've been ongoing. But the science community openly admits that if we were
00:48:26.080 to geoengineer, it would destroy the ozone layer. We have a, we had a former NASA contract engineer
00:48:31.040 working directly for geoengineeringwatch.org with state-of-the-art metering equipment into five
00:48:34.540 figures we supplied. And, and again, we do this out of pocket. This is, we don't monetize anything.
00:48:41.820 Our film, The Dimming, the groundbreaking documentary, The Dimming, which is the standard
00:48:45.280 on this issue, 26 million views, non-monetized, posted for free the day it was done. I'm in this
00:48:50.980 for the cause. If we don't win this battle, nothing else matters. And back to the trees that don't,
00:48:58.120 the forest that doesn't smell like forest anymore, because the trees are shutting their stomata.
00:49:02.480 That's a respiratory port on the trees, allowing them to breathe, to feed on carbon,
00:49:08.240 to release oxygen. They are not respirating. They're dying a slow protracted death. That's
00:49:14.260 the second greatest oxygen producer on the planet. Again, from every conceivable direction,
00:49:19.760 climate engineering is pounding the nails into our collective coffins, but they will not let go
00:49:24.000 of this covert weapon of control. And for those that say they wouldn't do this to themselves,
00:49:28.380 again, they already have. We detonated 2,400 nuclear bombs on the planet. How many people know
00:49:32.980 that? The Nevada detonations, which they did in total secrecy, right? We know now from peer-reviewed
00:49:38.860 study, the downwind fallout from the Nevada nuclear bomb detonations killed no less than 700,000
00:49:44.620 Americans. That's peer-reviewed study. How many people know that? So again, they don't care about
00:49:49.400 the consequences of what they do. We know as far as biological testing, according to the Washington
00:49:54.240 Post, as of 1977, U.S. military had conducted no less than 239 open-air biological tests on innocent,
00:50:03.660 unknowing civilians. Oh, come on now. Biological warfare tests on Americans?
00:50:10.500 I know you know. You must know that. Look it up. I mean, this is historical record,
00:50:15.660 again, covered by mainstream media. We had a revolution over a T-tax, dude. I feel like this,
00:50:22.240 you can't put up with this. I don't, I don't. I encourage, I encourage all of your listeners to
00:50:27.000 look up every single thing I state. That is very easy to find that statistic. Washington Post first
00:50:32.700 published that in 1977. I hope it's clear from the statistics I'm citing. I'm not shooting from
00:50:37.640 the hip. So again, this is, this is business as usual. And why people can't face that is perplexing.
00:50:45.400 And let's look at Zigniew Brzezinski. I know you know who he is, former U.S. presidential advisor,
00:50:50.160 going all the way back to Johnson. What did he state in the record? Your listeners can look this
00:50:54.080 up very easily as well. He stated with today's technology, it's far easier to kill a million
00:50:58.460 people than to control them. We think these people are here to help? Really? So again, I want to
00:51:05.160 stress that the amount of layers with this issue, and there's many legitimate causes or concerns at
00:51:10.300 this point in time, if we don't deal with what's happening in our skies, we're not going to be here
00:51:15.220 long. And let's look at, if we could look at COVID for a moment. We know that, for one,
00:51:21.880 the world's second most recognized climate engineer, Dr. Ken Caldera, former DOD scientist.
00:51:28.620 We own an audio of him at geogenwatch.org. In his words, stating what he did for the DOD was to
00:51:35.380 design methods of spraying pathogens into clouds to infect the populations below. We know in the
00:51:40.780 outbreak of CV-19, at 1.85 countries were infected in three days. That's indicative of an airborne
00:51:46.640 dispersion. We know from Italian researchers, they found CV-19 attached to airborne particulates.
00:51:52.980 Do not all these dots connect? They certainly would appear so. We know from our precipitation
00:51:58.680 testing, we have polymer fibers and graphene in our rain. Graphene is like a vascular machete. I mean,
00:52:04.960 it's listed in geoengineering patents for certain purposes. Again, they don't care about the
00:52:09.660 consequences. But those two elements also, Tucker, are used militarily as biological carrier platforms
00:52:15.480 to carry a pathogen from the clouds to the ground to infect the population below. Why is that in our
00:52:21.620 rain right now? Could they, at any point of their choosing, put something much more lethal into the
00:52:27.660 precipitation and level the playing field? Certainly they could. This is also shocking. Have you spoken
00:52:35.200 to elected officials about this, members of Congress? Many, and I continue to, and many know I've had
00:52:43.240 private meetings with Gavin Newsom at this California state capitol, his top eight, and not that that
00:52:49.880 individual would ever do anything for the common good. He wouldn't. He's there to serve those who have
00:52:56.500 them on the end of their strings. No response there. I have on my desk.
00:53:02.320 I'm sorry to interrupt. So you actually said this or a version of this to Gavin Newsom, the governor of
00:53:07.720 California? Yes. And in fact, and what I conveyed to Newsom also, if these programs were allowed to
00:53:13.540 continue, because I was focused more on the state of California and the impact here, that the drought
00:53:20.480 catastrophes in California would be catastrophic. I supplied data, which he didn't try to
00:53:26.440 dispute because I've had meetings with California Energy Commission scientists as well, air quality
00:53:32.120 scientists. You know, California has been concerned about, of course, the lack of precipitation, which
00:53:36.040 affects our hydropower production, also affects Hoover Dam, Ridge Canyon Dam. But if your listeners
00:53:42.840 looked at presentations I gave well over a decade ago, engineered drought catastrophe, target California,
00:53:47.660 everything I said in those presentations back then is more relevant now than ever, presented that
00:53:54.460 data to Newsom. And the drought has continued, which they're not even disclosing now. Even in Northern
00:54:00.880 California right now, they show zero drought. That's a blatant, glaring, statistical falsification.
00:54:08.080 It has never been drier here in regard to soil moisture and fire fuel moisture. They're lying about
00:54:14.740 everything. They're lying about the UV readings on the surface. Blatant, glaring lies. They meter.
00:54:20.440 We know about every single aspect of this equation. They're disclosing and metering only down to 300
00:54:26.980 nanometers in regard to the UV spectrum. That's half of the UVB spectrum. No UVC is even metered for,
00:54:34.320 let alone disclosed. Same as the air quality particulates. PM10 is looked for, nothing below
00:54:39.900 that. I've had California state air quality officials in a closed door meeting, five of them,
00:54:46.120 tell me to my face. The system is rigged. We're testing for combustion particulates only. The
00:54:50.200 rest goes out the window. Whole system by design to not show the immensity of damage being done.
00:54:57.680 So back to Newsom and those officials, no, no, no response. Yes, they know the Palisades fire.
00:55:04.320 I'm sure that's fresh in your mind, right? You vary. The ability for the climate engineers to shut
00:55:11.140 off precipitation is far greater even than their ability to augment it. They can shut down rain as
00:55:17.520 long as they want, as we know from the Middle Eastern countries, as I just stated on Iran.
00:55:21.560 So in the case of the Palisades, no rain for eight months. That's not an accident. These
00:55:27.380 particulates are incendiaries. Aluminum nanoparticles are such an effective incendiary.
00:55:33.000 They're used in military demolitions, thermite. That incendiary dust coats the forest floor,
00:55:38.960 coats foliage. And when that builds up over time, that makes everything more volatile as well.
00:55:44.640 I spoke about atmospheric pressure zones, which they can and are manipulating. And in doing so,
00:55:49.460 they can manipulate surface wind flows, creating extreme zonal wind flow patterns,
00:55:56.500 the same as they did in Lahaina. Same thing. Extremely anomalous low pressure zones,
00:56:01.340 one to the north, which was an engineer high pressure zone, to the south hurricane Dora. Between those
00:56:06.580 two, you create a bellows effect, a blowtorch effect, whatever the source of ignition. And many
00:56:11.600 online speculate about that in very fringe ideas of what might cause the ignition. Again, that's
00:56:21.860 irrelevant. What's setting the template for these fires to burn with such porosity? And that is
00:56:26.240 definitely climate engineering. And I'll leave it with this. We found 140 page US military document,
00:56:32.740 which we posted, titled Wildfires as a Military Weapon. Within that document, 17 sites were
00:56:41.740 aimed in the US as study zones. LA was one. And that described exactly the type of pre-preparation
00:56:50.720 that we see happening in all these locations. Lahaina was declared a flash drought zone a week prior to
00:56:57.000 that incineration. So we can speculate on the agendas and objectives being carried out.
00:57:01.180 The fact that climate engineering is inseparable from these equations is absolutely indisputable.
00:57:07.040 That document, by the way, also posted at geoengineeringwatch.org with the important
00:57:10.040 sections highlighted. Shocking data.
00:57:13.840 Has there been any attempt to push back legislatively? Like, has the Congress ever taken this up?
00:57:20.280 Yes. Again, we have 36 states with legislation in some process. Two states have already passed it.
00:57:28.020 I'm communicating with an aide to DeSantis. I've had an hour conference call with Latipo there on the
00:57:36.620 issue. We have some very rational people involved. He is. He very much is. His whole team was on the
00:57:43.220 call. We've had Marjorie Taylor Greene just address this. That was publicized well. We tried to reach
00:57:51.280 Mrs. Green before this to try to give some compass heading because if you fly into this blind, you can
00:57:59.480 do more harm than good. And one thing we encourage, unfortunately Marjorie didn't get this message. We
00:58:05.120 hope she does at some point. Don't open the entire climate scenario and mix it with this issue. And
00:58:14.940 that's what she did. We want to keep the focus on climate engineering. And when there's a denial
00:58:20.700 of the other sources of damage to the planet, that tends to immediately alienate half the people we
00:58:26.400 need in this battle. So what we would try to encourage and encourage other legislators to do
00:58:30.920 is that the subject of the climate comes up, that how can we have any legitimate discussion of climate
00:58:36.160 anything from any perspective without first and foremost addressing this elephant in the equation?
00:58:41.740 That narrative is much more productive at building bridges instead of burning it, burning it.
00:58:50.140 See, I mean, I knew the climate was changing, of course, because I pay attention to nature.
00:58:56.640 But you've just single-handedly convinced me that a lot of this is driven by human activity,
00:59:00.700 just not your suburban and your hairspray. It's driven by the U.S. military.
00:59:05.480 With both. I want to stress again, we are not denying it,
00:59:07.900 that again, statistically, we are putting about 100 million tons of carbon into the air a day,
00:59:20.280 26 million tons of coal, 100 million barrels of hydrocarbon. We're cutting down the forest,
00:59:25.100 we're paving the planet, we're poisoning the oceans. All of these things happen in effect.
00:59:29.360 We're acknowledging that. But we're saying when we have intentional intervention,
00:59:33.880 which has prevented the planet from responding to the damage done. If it weren't for toxic rain,
00:59:40.620 Tucker, the forest may have tried to uptake more of that carbon and to keep things more in balance,
00:59:45.940 but they can't. The trees can't. Their root systems are being poisoned, soil microbiome being poisoned,
00:59:50.940 ozone layer being destroyed. These programs are literally disabling the planet's counterbalancing
00:59:57.180 life support systems. So we will never know now how much better a position we would have been in
01:00:03.920 had climate engineering, aka weather warfare, let's call it what it is. It's weather warfare.
01:00:08.980 Had these programs never been deployed, we will now never know how much better a position we might
01:00:13.860 have been in. But those in power, again, do not care about the consequences of their actions,
01:00:18.580 even to themselves. And we know that from psychoanalysis. I've looked at this
01:00:22.200 from a psychoanalysis standpoint. And it specifically cites the kind of
01:00:27.540 personality disorders that exist with those in power have a common thread. And that common thread
01:00:32.540 is this, a near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of their actions, even to
01:00:37.940 themselves. That's a power addict. And I know you more than anybody in the world, does an addict care?
01:00:44.280 We're dealing with a headless, heartless, soulless cancer at this point. And does an addict care
01:00:49.320 the next fix may kill them? They don't care. And at this point, it's a runaway train. So for many
01:00:54.900 people that walk away saying they would never do this to themselves, they already have. We know this
01:00:59.380 from the nuclear scenario I outlined. And if I could tie one more dot together, forgive me, but this is
01:01:05.900 important because it's an existential threat. I outlined that climate engineering is decimating
01:01:10.520 the planet's primary protective life support system, starting with the ozone layer. Now we're much
01:01:16.700 more susceptible to a CME, a coronal mass ejection, solar flare. If we have an event like the Carrington
01:01:22.760 event in the 1800s, that would shut down grid power around the world. Now we have nuclear plants that
01:01:28.720 can't cool themselves. Now we have Fukushima times 100 or 200, game over. Again, directly connected to
01:01:35.500 climate engineering. What is the effect on animal populations? You mentioned bees, plankton,
01:01:44.360 and other insects. But what about mammals? Do you notice any effect?
01:01:49.440 Yes. Yes. We have peer-reviewed study of whales that have extraordinary amounts of aluminum in their
01:01:58.800 tissue. Where's that coming from? This is bioavailable aluminum. And you might hear the attempt to debunk
01:02:05.100 this is to say, well, aluminum's a very common element, which it is. It's the third most abundant
01:02:10.520 in their strata, but it does not exist in free form naturally, period.
01:02:15.680 Yes. That's correct.
01:02:16.820 Always responded to other elements. So that's the part that they leave out. So when we have even
01:02:21.100 whales absorbing this same material, having an obvious effect in regard to overall global animal
01:02:29.120 populations, wildlife populations, down conservatively about 75% in the last four years
01:02:36.780 alone. That's 75% of an already depleted population. The giant herds of caribou, you've seen films of
01:02:43.220 that, right? Tucker, a million strong. Some of those herds were a million. They're down to 5,000 or less
01:02:50.440 from a million. Virtual crash. And we have some extraordinary images from what chemical ice
01:02:56.960 nucleation can do. It is profound. When you have an endothermic reaction, you know what an exothermic
01:03:04.440 reaction is. You have this massive energy release, the splitting of an atom being the epitome of that.
01:03:10.380 But an endothermic reaction is profound in many ways as well. So we have images of, for example,
01:03:16.280 hundreds of waterfowl frozen solid to the surface of a lake. How does that happen? Tucker, you've seen
01:03:23.660 the massive baseball and softball size hail falling everywhere, right? Yes. So much so that insurance
01:03:30.240 companies are canceling any hail coverage now because it's increased so profoundly. That's
01:03:36.660 chemical ice nucleation. The extreme form, if your listeners searched Lake Michigan ice balls,
01:03:41.480 they can see the shores of Lake Michigan coated with 75-pound perfectly spherical ice balls. They don't
01:03:48.420 fall that big from the sky. They form that way in the ocean because they're chemically nucleating over
01:03:52.740 the Great Lakes constantly. That's how they pile up these massive amounts of snow in Erie and Buffalo.
01:03:59.360 And they make sensationalized headlines. You can literally throw a rock to no snow, but they only
01:04:04.740 show the four feet or five feet of snow in Erie and in Buffalo and sensationalized. Look how much snow,
01:04:10.380 snow, snow there is while we're 80 degrees at the top of the Sierras in the middle of winter in
01:04:15.660 California. They don't publicize that. Do you remember, Tucker, when Boston had the record lows,
01:04:22.220 2014, I think, Boston had record lows and the really sensationalized snow. What didn't they tell
01:04:28.040 us? Middle of winter while Boston was buried in snow, it was literally no snow, 14,000 feet up in
01:04:34.360 the Sierras. They never told us about that, did they? So again, there's a perception aspect in this
01:04:40.020 too. Keeping business as usual until the last possible moment, until the moment of impact,
01:04:45.640 being able to retain their power in this way while using weather as a weapon. The crops are shutting
01:04:50.200 down as well globally. We have crop collapse happening everywhere. Same scenario. They're
01:04:54.080 shutting their stomata. They're not feeding. They're not absorbing carbon. They're not releasing
01:04:58.400 oxygen. So again, this is a ubiquitous contamination. I think the first step is to let people know
01:05:07.060 the facts that you just laid out and to have a public debate about it. It always begins with words,
01:05:13.580 anything good. So could you just end by telling us, for people who have made it to this portion of
01:05:20.860 the interview and want to know more, can you speak slowly and direct them to where they can get more
01:05:26.520 information on this?
01:05:29.800 GeoInjuryWatch.org strives to be a data repository on this issue. And the only way we can move this
01:05:35.880 fight forward is to share credible data from a credible source. And we strive to be that source.
01:05:40.660 I have one goal, one mission. I live for the day when what's happening in our skies is fully exposed
01:05:46.100 and halted, which, Tucker, I would argue we can only do from the inside out. The legislation is
01:05:51.140 good because it puts it on the radar, but it's symbolic. They're not going to stop the operations
01:05:56.620 from that. Only by pushing this issue to the full light of day can we cause a shockwave around the
01:06:01.920 world so that populations and countries all over the world understand what their governments have
01:06:06.980 either actively or passively done to them without their knowledge or consent. And in doing so,
01:06:12.880 our military brothers and sisters would hopefully awaken to what they're doing to their countrymen.
01:06:17.860 And one would hope would stand down. I know we have the Milgram experiments as an example of
01:06:22.380 most human beings, if they're being told by someone they perceive an authority, will carry out
01:06:28.560 almost any form of atrocity. And we need to get past that. But if we can fully expose this, the fur will
01:06:36.240 fly. I would argue we would alter the equation and drag many other issues with it. Issues like 9-11
01:06:42.540 or the safe and effective, because you can't hide what's happening in our sky. There's many issues that
01:06:47.180 people can and try to put in the rearview mirror. You can't do that with this. It's getting worse by the
01:06:53.560 day. The damage done is getting worse by the day. But if we share credible data from a credible source,
01:06:58.180 that's much more effective at waking people up than running out in the street, pointing at the sky
01:07:03.400 and ranting. If they can look at satellite images, which we capture, the moment we see them on the
01:07:08.160 NASA satellite feed, we capture them because they try to scrub them off. We have satellite images that
01:07:12.280 are beyond shocking, that you don't even know anything about meteorology to know something very
01:07:16.720 radical and very wrong is going on. And we put that on our printed materials, which we distribute to
01:07:21.580 all legislators, and we supply them for activists and populations. There's about a half million of our
01:07:27.380 20-page booklets in circulation right now. We're trying desperately to give visuals,
01:07:32.660 which are a much better key to the door. We're trying desperately, again, with legislators to
01:07:36.840 not open up the whole climate condition front or climate change front. Stick to this issue. Stick to
01:07:44.060 this. And we can't have a discussion about climate unless or until we deal with this first. We take this
01:07:48.720 out of the equation, then we can assess where we're at. So again, by knowing how to play chess,
01:07:53.760 by knowing the chessboard, we need to play effectively and efficiently. And if we can do
01:07:57.680 that and start spot fires of awareness, ask others to do the same, we will put enough holes in the dam
01:08:02.840 that those in power can't plug the leaks. And we will push this issue to the full light of day. And
01:08:07.280 if we can do that, we will alter the equation. And again, time is not on our side. We can avoid
01:08:12.740 a toxic medical concoction injection. We can avoid a lot of things. We have to breathe. Every breath we
01:08:19.340 take is filled with these nanoparticles. In fact, we have a peer review study to prove that as well.
01:08:24.140 And we have, in the case of the nanoplastics, the climate science community is now starting to
01:08:29.160 admit to that. They're showing up in human brains, lungs, placentia, everything, every human organ.
01:08:34.380 And again, we know that these particles are not just a result of plastic decomposition in the
01:08:38.360 environment because our testing with RPI in New York conclusively proved that the particles we found
01:08:44.980 were manufactured. That means, and they can tell with their spectroscopy, excuse me, watching too much
01:08:55.400 Porky Pig, they know that. So bottom line is we're dealing with the ubiquitous contamination of the
01:09:03.520 planet. And if we can't breathe without inhaling that, the ramifications are beyond grave. That's a fight
01:09:10.020 for life right here, right now. Yeah. Are you spraying chemicals into the air without telling
01:09:15.600 me using my tax dollars? Simple question that I plan to start asking people in leadership positions.
01:09:22.500 So I don't know how I made it this long without knowing all of this, but I'm grateful
01:09:25.880 for this conversation. And I hope it sparks a national conversation and some outrage.
01:09:32.580 Dane, thank you very much. Thank you, Tucker. Thank you so much for your voice. Thank you to your team.
01:09:37.880 The importance of you and your team at this critical moment in human history cannot be overstated. And
01:09:43.920 we at Geoengineering Watch and our platforms, which are much smaller than yours, we have a quarter
01:09:48.100 million followers. It's all nothing compared to yours, but everybody in our ranks is 1000% behind you,
01:09:55.180 brother. Well, that's so nice. Thank you. We want to be helpful. I appreciate it. Thank you, Tucker.
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