The Tucker Carlson Show - Vince Coglianese： DNC Predictions, Don Lemon, and Why Kamala Harris Is Terrified

00:00:00.000 The Democratic National Convention starts this week, appalling, but there are, thankfully,

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00:00:10.780 we are going live this Thursday night, 8.30 Eastern. We'll be doing a live stream to react

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00:00:30.340 live Thursday night, 8.30. In the meantime, here's our latest episode on the DNC with Vince Colonnese.

00:00:37.180 So someone just sent me a video of the protesters outside the DNC. So I guess, almost by definition,

00:00:46.060 even crazier than the people inside the DNC. And the first thing you notice is they're all wearing

00:00:51.360 masks outside. And I don't want to be mean, mental illness is real. They're obviously mentally ill.

00:00:57.360 Definitely.

00:00:58.080 But what's so interesting is I never see that in my life. Do you ever see anybody wearing masks outside?

00:01:04.020 Well, I live near Washington, so yes.

00:01:06.200 You actually do now?

00:01:07.380 Yeah, but that's, so there are categories of people, I think, who are just neurotic

00:01:11.080 and who've been misled, especially by the left. And they wear the mask still up until this very day.

00:01:16.840 Do you know how bad that is for your health?

00:01:18.320 It's awful. It's awful. It's also-

00:01:21.020 It's why I'd rather smoke cigarettes any day.

00:01:22.760 I actually think the cost to socialization is even worse. It's like your health is awful,

00:01:26.220 but like, what does that say about you and how isolated you are from the rest of society?

00:01:30.780 That can't be good for your head. And the truth is, I think, I don't think it's for like a lot

00:01:35.720 of these people, I don't really think in the end it's really about the health. They maybe soothe

00:01:39.200 themselves by saying that. Fundamentally, it's a political gesture. It's, I'm a part of a club.

00:01:44.860 It's a uniform. It's signaling you're with the left. And they're still doing it to this day. It's

00:01:49.400 like crazy. I think I'm just too out of it. I mean, because I see that and I'm like, okay,

00:01:54.160 especially if it's a man, you're totally emasculated and pathetic.

00:01:58.300 Definitely.

00:01:58.560 You have no self-respect at all. You hate yourself and for good reason. That's the first thing I

00:02:02.420 think. With contempt, but also pity, like I just can't, like you actually see people with masks

00:02:08.400 outside.

00:02:08.860 Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. And I do think like the people that you're talking about outside the

00:02:15.000 convention, that's also a means to commit a crime and get away with it.

00:02:19.960 Well, that's right.

00:02:20.560 That's really, so a lot of states in our country, I don't know if it's all the states, but a lot of

00:02:24.080 them have anti-masking laws.

00:02:25.780 Of course.

00:02:26.220 On the books. And the concept is that you shouldn't-

00:02:28.460 Going back to the 1920s.

00:02:29.380 You shouldn't like a bandit, like be able to just rob a store with a handkerchief tied around your face.

00:02:34.460 So they have anti-masking laws, which I think are still on the books and no one's ever gotten

00:02:38.760 rid of them.

00:02:39.360 Those were anti-Klan laws, I think, in most places.

00:02:42.120 Well, that would be a useful law in order to prevent that activity. So anyway, but these guys,

00:02:48.020 and they commit crimes. It's the same, it's the truth about Antifa. How often did we see a riot

00:02:54.260 committed by Antifa where they destroyed things, where they killed people, where they burned,

00:02:59.220 they burned down the third precinct in Minneapolis, all of the chaos, and they're wearing masks.

00:03:04.020 In order to prevent people from knowing who they are so that they can be held accountable.

00:03:08.420 And we accept it because the left says, well, mask wearing is necessary.

00:03:12.880 I don't want to digress too much, which is a problem that I have, but did the FBI ever,

00:03:18.380 I mean, I know we spent a lot of time tracing the roots of Christian nationalism and like scary

00:03:22.900 middle-class grandmothers are still in jail from January 6th, et cetera, et cetera. But did anybody

00:03:28.160 in law enforcement ever get to the bottom of Antifa?

00:03:32.060 No, no. And they've shown almost no interest in it.

00:03:35.300 In Antifa.

00:03:35.980 In fact, you remember when-

00:03:38.020 They came to my house and threatened my wife, vandalized my house, killed a bunch of people

00:03:41.520 around the country.

00:03:42.400 Yeah.

00:03:42.940 And were just totally ignored.

00:03:44.180 I remember really clearly. Did the cops ever follow up with you after-

00:03:47.020 No, of course not.

00:03:47.400 Your house was attacked?

00:03:48.100 Of course not.

00:03:48.700 Anyone ever-

00:03:49.160 I don't want to make it about me or whine about it. It's not about me.

00:03:51.300 Well, no.

00:03:51.600 They didn't hurt me.

00:03:52.680 You would think as a victim of it, as your wife being a victim of it, then maybe you'd

00:03:57.440 be given a readout on what happened.

00:03:59.080 No, nobody cared. And the cops did come to my house months later. In fact, two black cops,

00:04:10.200 both of whom told me they were voting for Trump in DC, great guys, came to my house and told

00:04:17.160 me to carry a gun when I went outside.

00:04:19.660 The cops told you, you're on your own. That's what they-

00:04:22.700 They didn't say you're on your own. They said, we recommend that you carry a gun.

00:04:25.500 Yeah, but that is the message of that.

00:04:26.340 Which I did, of course. But no, they were actually great. But no, but there was no effort

00:04:33.420 to kind of find out who did this. But it's just interesting. Again, I don't want to make

00:04:37.040 it about me because it's not, but I just think it's remarkable that you could have this armed

00:04:42.200 militia in the streets that still exists. And nobody at the FBI, they really are criminals,

00:04:50.420 the people who run the FBI, if I can just say. Chris Ray's a freaking criminal. I'm trying not

00:04:53.560 to use the F word. But they don't get to the bottom of it.

00:04:56.380 Yeah. Well, just ask the crisis pregnancy centers around the country. So all the pro-life pregnancy

00:05:01.460 centers, the ones who actually help mothers?

00:05:04.040 Yes.

00:05:04.340 Who actually provide diapers and formula.

00:05:07.040 Oh, of course.

00:05:07.480 And who work with them in the early stages of their child's life.

00:05:10.080 Yeah, adoption. Like angels on earth. Every single person I've interviewed who works with

00:05:16.360 or for a crisis pregnancy center is, first of all, a lot better person than I am.

00:05:20.460 Yes.

00:05:21.040 And you can feel the spirituality come off of them.

00:05:24.060 Yes, I totally agree.

00:05:24.940 The goodness, the innate goodness come off of them. And all of the crimes against those places,

00:05:31.260 they don't get solved. In fact, they don't even get looked into in any meaningful way.

00:05:35.080 And that includes firebombing. That includes vandalism, smashing windows,

00:05:39.580 attacking these facilities. Meanwhile, if you're singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill,

00:05:45.240 your life will be destroyed. If you're a grandmother singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill,

00:05:50.000 your life will be destroyed. And when Merrick Garland, the attorney general, was asked about this

00:05:53.720 in Congress, like, hey, crisis pregnancy centers being destroyed, old ladies singing outside of

00:05:59.220 abortion mills. He said, well, he didn't say the old lady, but the old lady, her face is out and

00:06:05.660 it's in daylight, so we can catch her. But the Antifa people, they do it at night.

00:06:11.600 So Speaker Mike Johnson, who's constantly telling you what a great Christian he is,

00:06:15.920 sort of led the effort to refund the FBI and build them a new headquarters and has done nothing.

00:06:22.580 I mean, the FBI is now a kind of anti-Christian secret police force. And the purportedly Christian

00:06:33.340 Speaker of the House just sort of rubber stamps their funding every year and nobody does anything

00:06:37.820 about this. I mean, you can feel the frustration in my voice, I think.

00:06:41.680 It's totally despicable. And I hate dwelling on that.

00:06:45.580 I do too.

00:06:46.080 Because what it starts to do is it creeps into your mind, but none of it matters.

00:06:49.980 Like, you start becoming so fatalist about it, you know, it's like, I don't care whatever the

00:06:54.860 outcome is, it's all going south.

00:06:56.500 It's totally right.

00:06:57.440 And I don't want to be tempted by that thought. Like, I really don't.

00:07:00.560 That's deep.

00:07:01.140 Actually.

00:07:01.680 Yes.

00:07:03.020 But it-

00:07:04.000 Not that I have any idea what you're talking about, Vince.

00:07:05.900 It drives me so crazy.

00:07:07.040 No, I know.

00:07:07.560 Which is why, okay, so do you think Trump learned enough lessons from round one in order to do it

00:07:13.440 differently in round two?

00:07:14.640 I can't answer that question.

00:07:17.120 You can't because you have no idea.

00:07:18.900 I don't want to.

00:07:19.500 You don't want to.

00:07:20.760 You know, you hope so. I mean, I think like a lot of people, why am I talking? I'm here

00:07:25.960 to interview you. But since you asked, I think like a lot of people, well, first of all, I

00:07:30.960 really like Trump enormously as a person. A. B. I think that the alternative is so shocking

00:07:39.160 that I, you know, I've kind of put on pause all thoughts like the one you just raised.

00:07:44.580 Exactly.

00:07:45.120 Right. Because it's super clear what's going to happen if the Democratic Party holds power. It's

00:07:51.620 not about Kamala Harris. She's not even, I don't think there's any evidence. She's like an actual

00:07:55.020 person.

00:07:55.740 No.

00:07:55.980 Right. So it's about the party. It's about the collective. It's about the people who really

00:08:01.000 have wrecked the country continuing to loot it and to destroy the first and second amendments,

00:08:07.640 the Bill of Rights, civil liberties in the United States for another four years, which will really

00:08:12.120 be kind of the end. And then you're just a one party state. That's what I foresee. And that's just

00:08:17.680 so bad that I'm not spending a ton of time thinking about the question that you just raised. But you

00:08:23.660 know, I hope so, for sure.

00:08:24.960 Yeah. But the, I mean, first of all, the chances of both of these scenarios are very high. Like one

00:08:29.900 where Kamala wins and we head for what you think is the end. Do you, is it that, is it that dark for

00:08:36.760 you? Do you think?

00:08:37.440 Well, I have no idea. My ability to foresee the future is like non-existent. Every political call

00:08:42.480 I've ever made is wrong.

00:08:43.460 And that's true, by the way, of almost like literally everybody in politics.

00:08:46.820 Yeah. And I also think just judging from my own brief and not very exciting life,

00:08:52.200 one takeaway from it though, after 55 years is your victories turn out very often to be your losses

00:08:57.780 and your losses almost always turn out to be your victories. And we don't see that as people. It's a

00:09:04.300 consistent theme throughout history, throughout the old and new testaments. It's like just when you

00:09:09.660 think everything is lost, that is, I mean, well that actually, that's the theme of Christianity.

00:09:13.460 Out of, you know, being tortured to death, the world is saved.

00:09:17.240 Don't you feel like, don't you feel like that that happened in 2020? So in a sense,

00:09:20.720 the losses of 2020 have definitely hardened like the world of normal people to the point that like,

00:09:28.840 they're not playing games anymore. They're not dressing up their language. They're being very

00:09:33.020 clear about their thinking.

00:09:34.300 Yes.

00:09:34.660 They know where all of this is going.

00:09:36.160 Right.

00:09:36.260 They're not trying to suck up to everybody else.

00:09:37.920 No, that's right.

00:09:39.200 I mean, I like, look, if we had to do 2020 over again, I don't want the outcome that we got,

00:09:43.780 but I will say it's made a lot of people better. And in fact, you and I have talked about this.

00:09:47.540 It's made a lot of people better. That is absolutely right.

00:09:49.240 The spiritual component, the religious component in the country took off in a way that I couldn't

00:09:54.800 have foreseen.

00:09:55.520 No, that's right.

00:09:56.120 In 2020, don't you think?

00:09:57.780 I felt it coming. I don't know why, but I actually have not been surprised by it. I've

00:10:06.620 been delighted to see it, but not surprised. But I do think that people I know, I'm really

00:10:13.980 blessed to know, are all deeper and smarter and warmer with each other, more real with

00:10:20.900 each other, you know, more, more, I love yous, more honesty.

00:10:25.420 They're more intentional.

00:10:26.580 Way more. So I, I just know for my own family, and I'm not talking about material prosperity,

00:10:32.020 I just mean, I'm speaking only in terms of love, is so much stronger and happier, you know,

00:10:38.300 for after COVID, after all the, after the BLM riots, after all the sadness we've seen after the

00:10:44.400 clearly stolen election, you know, all these bad things happen. But, but people I know love each

00:10:50.720 other more. So yeah, no, you're absolutely, so like, I'm not going to even guess, I shouldn't

00:10:55.360 even have said all that about the Democratic Party, because I don't know what's going to

00:10:59.800 happen.

00:11:00.120 Well, I guess if you take the, the long view, which as a Christian, you should, if you take

00:11:05.180 the long view, in the end, you're not really all that disturbed by the pace of this. I mean,

00:11:09.480 you're disturbed on behalf of your family, of course, you care about your country, but you

00:11:13.880 have this eternal optimism that, well, the Bible does kind of lay out the misery that

00:11:18.500 precedes glory, you know?

00:11:20.200 Well, that's exactly right.

00:11:20.980 And so, in the end, you always wonder, like, at what stage in history are we living through?

00:11:26.280 Yeah. So I think you have an advantage because you're 15 years younger than me-ish.

00:11:32.680 Something like that.

00:11:33.220 Something like that, maybe more.

00:11:34.260 But I was born in 69, and so from 69 to 2016, my core assumption was, you know, everything's

00:11:44.940 great, and everything's going to get better every year, and like, bad things don't happen,

00:11:48.780 our system is totally solid. And, you know, there are, of course, bad actors within the

00:11:54.080 system, but they don't control the system. The system is fundamentally real. It is a democracy

00:11:57.860 in some loose sense that people do have a say in how they're governed, et cetera, et cetera,

00:12:03.960 et cetera, et cetera. 9-11 is real. I mean, you know, like, whatever. I just, like, kind

00:12:08.080 of believed everything. And, but, you know, the lesson of history is there's always turmoil,

00:12:13.480 and a lot of things are always going to be fake.

00:12:16.300 Right.

00:12:17.060 And, you know, the Lord of the earth is Satan. I mean, that's kind of right. And so it's just

00:12:22.680 like, this is what it is. It's what it's always been. I just think people who are,

00:12:27.600 your age are less shocked by that than I am. Yeah. Yeah. My main impediment is just being

00:12:33.080 shocked. Like, I can't believe this is happening. Yeah, that's true. What? They're putting people

00:12:36.860 in prison for praying at abortion clinics? Like, what? They replaced Easter with Trans

00:12:40.960 Visibility Day? I can't believe this. I know. Which is kind of like, I'm not a boomer, but it is

00:12:46.520 kind of, thankfully, I'm not a boomer, but it's kind of a boomer response. The opening ceremonies

00:12:51.780 to the Olympics. Yeah. The fact that they would do a fake Last Supper with all trans people or

00:12:56.880 drag people. It's like, does it get any more brazen? I mean, and they're like, oh, it's

00:13:03.920 totally normal. Like, what are you all complaining about? What? I mean, it is, they double barrel

00:13:09.880 middle finger every Christian on earth. Of course, because Christianity is the enemy. That's what

00:13:14.160 they hate. That's what they actually hate. Like all the other, all the nonsense. We're here

00:13:18.660 to help black people. We're here to help trans people. We're here to help immigrants. You're

00:13:21.600 not here to help anybody. You're here to oppose Christianity is what you're here to do. Period.

00:13:25.500 That's their goal. Whether they know it or not, but don't listen to what they say, watch

00:13:30.260 what they do. For sure. So what, okay. Tell me what to make of, speaking of spiritual themes

00:13:36.500 in our politics, the abortion lobby shows up at the DNC this week and sends with them a mobile

00:13:48.440 vasectomy clinic. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So you can get snipped, um, if you want at the DNC. This at a time

00:13:55.780 where the birth rate among native born Americans is like not way below replacement. Definitely. Not

00:14:01.020 having babies. Yeah. Why would that be your priority? It's a death cult. It's a total death

00:14:07.340 cult. I mean, every, look, at the bottom of every one of these policies that they pitch and they sell

00:14:12.640 you was like a good thing is human suffering at the bottom of all of them. Yeah. So a really good

00:14:17.320 example of this is the climate stuff. So let's assume for a moment that all of their climate

00:14:21.280 catastrophizing is correct. Yes. That it's our activity that's making the earth warmer. Okay.

00:14:26.700 Well, it turns out that the warmer the planet is, the better it is for humans. Right. More humans

00:14:32.820 survive in an environment where the earth is warmer. In fact, when the earth is colder, lots of people die.

00:14:38.380 Lots of people die. And so there, and there's no, actually no, there's no, um, challenge to that

00:14:43.540 science whatsoever. It's totally clear. You know, if it's a matter of like sea level rise, all this

00:14:47.760 other stuff, we have like amazing alert systems, hurricanes. The reason people don't die to

00:14:51.540 hurricanes is because we have, we have such a far out advanced notice that they're coming. Uh, our,

00:14:56.020 our buildings are so much more durable. They never talk about death counts, by the way, when they talk

00:14:59.720 about hurricanes and what they're doing in the climate change, way fewer people die due to hurricanes.

00:15:03.760 No, it's never at its core about human flourishing ever. So if it's not about human flourishing,

00:15:10.580 it's about the opposite. It's about death. It's eternally fine with it. In fact, they view us as a

00:15:15.960 cancer on the earth, at least the, the radical left's so-called environmental movement and the

00:15:20.940 abortion thing. It is, it is, it's a death cult. It's all sort of like pagan tribal religions have had

00:15:30.180 death rituals. Of course, human sacrifice is the one constant. Yes. I, on my radio show,

00:15:35.040 I refer to this as human sacrifice all the time because that's what it is. And I, it's so, it's

00:15:39.080 breaking yourself of the spell of using their terminology is such a challenging thing to do

00:15:45.020 because it's like everywhere. It surrounds you. It's like every newspaper you read, every

00:15:49.380 television show you watch, every social media post you consume, lots of them in the past,

00:15:54.300 they use like the language of the left as it's shifting, as it's modifying. And if you don't use the

00:15:59.120 language, you're censored. So it's mind control as you know. And so the, the obsession with death

00:16:06.160 and advancing it as a social good is one of the most destructive things that any culture can do.

00:16:12.500 And we're living through it. I mean, this abortion fetish is out of control. And you know,

00:16:17.400 what's even crazier is that the Kamala campaign, to the extent that one exists, that, that has a

00:16:22.980 policy agenda, that's their thing. They think that's their number one issue is abortion. Yeah.

00:16:28.460 And they think that she's a great pitch woman for it. She's so good at an abortion. She's like,

00:16:33.100 so how many abortions would equal freedom and happiness? We don't have enough abortions. That's

00:16:38.500 the, no, but is there, can they, I mean, I always feel like in politics, you know, effective

00:16:45.140 politicians describe the future. They will bring you a few vote for them. Yeah. Vote for me and you get

00:16:50.380 whatever, a new car. Fine. I get that. What, but when you run on abortion, it's like, we have a lot,

00:16:57.640 we have hundreds of thousands of abortions every year, um, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of

00:17:01.800 abortions every year. So, um, how many more until we're happy? I mean, some years we've had,

00:17:07.860 I think in the vicinity of a million abortions a year, which, um, for those people who pay attention

00:17:12.980 to immigration, uh, that's about the number of legal immigrants we bring into the country every year.

00:17:17.460 So we're aborting a million Americans and then importing a million workers each year,

00:17:24.540 give or take. Right. That number of changes. And it's super disheartening because it's like,

00:17:29.020 first of all, you're killing off the next generation of the people who have a vested

00:17:33.200 interest in this country. And then you're importing people who don't at all. It's.

00:17:38.580 And no, no tie to its history at all or to its systems or to its creed. Yeah. It's not.

00:17:44.840 I mean. To its culture, to its language. They're not even bothering themselves with

00:17:48.080 that question. It's like a sensible immigration system would actually be predicated on those

00:17:51.640 questions. Right. What can you contribute? How much do you adhere? Are you going to assimilate?

00:17:55.600 Are you going to buy into our culture and creed? Those are the core questions of how you compose

00:17:59.960 a country and allow immigration at the same time. They're not even, they're aligning those. They're,

00:18:04.800 who cares? Just bring everybody in and forget legal. We'll just, we'll establish an app south of our

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00:20:04.480 And then convincing Americans that having children is like the worst thing that they could ever do.

00:20:10.280 Who would get a vasectomy at the DNC?

00:20:16.340 That component of this is the part that makes me think that Turning Point is paying for it or

00:20:21.520 something. Like somebody set up, like a right-wing group set up a vasectomy machine outside of the

00:20:27.520 DNC. It's pretty funny. But I don't know. I mean, the left has been obsessed with abortion for years.

00:20:32.900 And birth control.

00:20:34.300 It hasn't diminished the number of people who buy into the storyline.

00:20:38.260 It's just so interesting. I mean, I've been pro-life, you know, since my 20s anyway,

00:20:44.340 when I had kids and really thought about it.

00:20:47.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:47.920 Even before then. But I never really connected that to birth control. I mean, I'm Protestant. I never had

00:20:56.920 any problem with birth control, practice birth control. But isn't that fine? I'm not even sure to

00:21:02.220 think of it now. But I know what I think of people who are obsessed with preventing conception and

00:21:07.120 childbirth.

00:21:07.840 Yeah.

00:21:08.500 Like, what is that? Why the obsession?

00:21:11.040 Yeah. They're obsessed with it. And then they pretend that there's like no moral qualms about it.

00:21:16.120 Well, they're obsessed with it. And they pretend that everyone else is like,

00:21:19.260 you're obsessed with controlling women's bodies. No, I appreciate women's bodies. I don't really want

00:21:24.940 to control anybody.

00:21:25.840 It's stupid. But that's like, that's misdirection, of course.

00:21:28.060 It is like, it has nothing to do with that.

00:21:29.380 It's like putting it in, putting the debate in a place that they feel that they can have

00:21:32.420 it safely. But like, if you were for it, and there are a limited number of people who I've

00:21:35.820 heard make honest arguments. Like, yeah, it's extinguishing a human life. Like, a human life

00:21:39.040 dies.

00:21:39.740 Yeah.

00:21:39.940 But I think it's worth it. They try and, at least that person is being honest about what's

00:21:44.300 happening.

00:21:44.700 Yeah.

00:21:44.880 At least that's an honest conversation. Instead, with the left, that's just like, you'd be like,

00:21:48.340 okay, we want to pass a law to prevent late-term abortions. No late-term abortions. Which,

00:21:52.180 by the way, majority, the whole country agrees that no babies should be killed in the third

00:21:56.460 trimester. That's a terrible time to do that. It's always a terrible time, but that's where

00:22:00.800 the public thinks.

00:22:01.800 A child who can live outside the womb?

00:22:03.560 Yes. And so what the left says is, oh, that never happens. Or they'll say, oh, it only

00:22:08.640 happens in very rare, very rare circumstances where the life of the mother's on the line.

00:22:12.640 Really? Because actually, that's bullshit.

00:22:15.560 Yeah.

00:22:15.920 That's total bullshit. And the reason I know that is because the Guttmacher Institute,

00:22:19.620 which is the leading gatherer of abortion statistics on behalf of the abortion industry,

00:22:25.220 says that the majority of abortions that take place late-term are healthy babies, healthy mothers.

00:22:32.040 Healthy babies, healthy mothers. The majority. Nobody knows this because the media doesn't tell

00:22:36.860 you that. It oftentimes involves women who either didn't know they were pregnant, which suggests that

00:22:42.580 they probably weren't all that healthy, physically healthy. Or it's women who dither on the

00:22:49.480 question on whether or not they would get the abortion at all. They eventually, in a very late

00:22:53.460 stage, decided to do it.

00:22:54.720 Or are pressured into it.

00:22:56.240 Or are pressured into it, which is a means for helping the worst kind of men in our country.

00:23:02.140 Of course.

00:23:03.180 And that's really, I mean, at its core, like if you really wanted to attack it,

00:23:07.000 it's a deeply misogynist institution.

00:23:09.280 Of course.

00:23:10.180 You know?

00:23:10.920 Women only have value to the extent they work for me at some bank.

00:23:15.040 Yeah.

00:23:15.680 I mean, no one ever says the truth, which has to do with the labor. But women are amazing

00:23:22.260 employees because they're more dutiful and reliable than men. And having had a lot of

00:23:27.400 women work for me, I can say that. I worked in a business that was mostly women. And they're

00:23:33.320 amazing employees.

00:23:34.180 They're less distracted. They're more task-oriented.

00:23:36.600 They actually do what they say they're going to do.

00:23:38.700 That thing's done, yes.

00:23:39.340 You know what I mean? They don't space out and try to improvise midway through or get high

00:23:42.780 in the men's room and forget.

00:23:44.200 Right, right.

00:23:44.600 You know, they just like women, just like my daughters as compared to my son. You know,

00:23:48.740 they're just like, they do the job. And so it's great to have women work for you. And

00:23:55.160 they're nice too, especially if you're a man. They're like, just, you just get along with

00:23:58.100 them.

00:23:58.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:58.360 It's great. And I love working with women. But there's a temptation, like if you were

00:24:05.280 soulless, to want to encourage them, like not to have kids because they get in, that kids

00:24:11.180 are a higher priority than your, whatever stupid job you're offering them.

00:24:14.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:14.860 Do you know what I mean?

00:24:15.740 A hundred percent.

00:24:16.580 And so the labor market pushes this shit, this anti-fertility stuff on women, tells them

00:24:24.400 it's liberation. And I'm sorry to say this, but a lot of them like don't think it through

00:24:27.780 and they're like, yeah, it's liberation. It's sad. And, um, and that's how you wind up

00:24:33.560 with this.

00:24:34.100 Yeah. There's, um, there's a, a group, I think it's based in DC.

00:24:38.180 It's capitalism, Vince. We have to support it or else we're against free markets.

00:24:41.860 There's a, there's a, there's a left-wing group in DC that's dedicated to this issue,

00:24:45.880 what you're talking about.

00:24:46.660 Really?

00:24:47.040 Yeah.

00:24:47.200 Well, I support them because I agree with that.

00:24:48.640 I think the PPAU, I think is where they got like a progressive anti-abortion union or

00:24:53.600 something. And it, at its core is exactly the argument you're making, which is like,

00:24:57.980 why are we telling women to be wage slaves?

00:25:00.140 Right.

00:25:00.640 Like, why are we telling them that their most important purpose is corporate America?

00:25:05.200 To work in a bank.

00:25:06.000 All the way through their ability.

00:25:07.560 You were born to work at a bank.

00:25:09.580 Like literally, like imagine, imagine if you had a window of time where you could perform

00:25:14.380 magic in your life. Literally this, and the magic could only be performed during this like

00:25:18.480 20 year window of time. And some company hired you and said, we'll hire you under this condition.

00:25:22.640 You never use your magic. You never, never once will you be able to use this magic ability

00:25:27.920 that you'll never be able to do again. You can never use it during the time that you work for us.

00:25:31.720 Okay. In fact, we'll pay for you not to do it. And which is what they do. They do this to women

00:25:36.320 and that they have this like, they have this incredible magic, miraculous ability. And we have

00:25:42.480 huge sectors of our society dedicated to telling them, don't use it.

00:25:46.400 Yeah.

00:25:46.800 Don't you dare.

00:25:48.200 Yeah. You, um, you can create life.

00:25:51.060 Yeah.

00:25:51.700 Or you can create a spreadsheet.

00:25:54.100 Yeah.

00:25:54.500 And we think the spreadsheet's more important or you can create value for our stock.

00:25:58.540 What would you like to do?

00:26:00.200 It's so unbelievable. And it's, what's interesting is I, I'm, I'm now, I'm sorry,

00:26:06.220 I keep attacking Republicans. I plan to vote for them just to be clear. Don't have an option,

00:26:10.500 but the number of Republicans who sort of leaders I'm talking about, not the voters

00:26:14.580 by and large, but their leaders like totally buy into that. And they're like, I wish these,

00:26:19.900 you know, pro-family, anti-abortion people, Christians would just shut up. Just shut up.

00:26:25.320 Like, how does that help private equity or war against Iran?

00:26:28.540 No.

00:26:29.040 Do you know what I mean? Like they're, they, they totally agree with the left on these issues.

00:26:34.620 Yeah. Because.

00:26:35.820 And they'll call you a socialist.

00:26:36.940 I think part of it is like, they're too lazy to take the mental inventory necessary to make the

00:26:41.160 arguments. I think that's part of it. Honestly, having met, I mean, you've, you've met way more

00:26:45.340 of these guys than I have, but I've met a lot of them.

00:26:47.880 Oh, they're so disgusting.

00:26:48.880 And if it's not, if it's not an issue that's like in the headlines right now,

00:26:52.900 there's not a lot of deep thoughts on the subject.

00:26:54.800 No.

00:26:55.200 You know, like they, there's not a lot of like existential thought thinking going on.

00:26:59.180 Yeah.

00:26:59.860 Which is unfortunate. It's really unfortunate because the right, the, the normal, the normal

00:27:05.540 American, which I love using, by the way, I just, I think the phrase normal is like the

00:27:09.300 best way to attack.

00:27:10.100 It's the best.

00:27:10.540 Because it really does reflect like what we are all thinking fundamentally.

00:27:13.880 Like we get right and left.

00:27:14.860 Yeah.

00:27:14.940 Normal people like babies.

00:27:17.060 Right.

00:27:17.460 Normal people like flourishing families.

00:27:20.020 Yes.

00:27:20.100 Normal people recognize the value that it's given to them and they feel awful for the

00:27:23.820 people who've been sold the lies. And so we should just speak up for it. And you should,

00:27:28.480 if you're a conservative politician, Republican politician, and you don't have a good argument

00:27:32.340 against the death cult, one, you shouldn't be a politician. You should get out of the game

00:27:36.760 entirely. But two, like, at least like sit down. Maybe, maybe have a wife, sit down with her and

00:27:41.540 talk about it and like come up with some clear answers and then fight for what's right. And then

00:27:45.840 fight to create a world where people don't feel like they need to kill a baby in order to thrive.

00:27:50.780 You know?

00:27:51.300 I would like to see, I mean, maybe I'm getting less, I don't know, laissez-faire as I get older. But if you

00:27:57.960 see the energy that went in to destroying the lives of all those middle-aged, diabetic,

00:28:05.520 lower middle-class white Americans who went to defend the Constitution on January 6th, like really,

00:28:12.160 we harnessed the entire machine to crush them.

00:28:16.320 Yes.

00:28:16.980 As long as that machine exists, why not turn it on any company that encourages its female

00:28:22.120 employees to, quote, freeze their eggs? There's something about that. Like any company that

00:28:28.300 encourages women to work themselves to death in pursuit of some totally pointless goal like private

00:28:35.200 equity or banking and then tells them, but we'll pay for you to freeze your eggs. Why don't we sick

00:28:40.760 the FBI on them?

00:28:42.540 Yeah.

00:28:42.920 As long as we're sick in the FBI on people.

00:28:44.800 I don't know. I mean, it's like, sorry, I know I'm not supposed to say that, but I think that,

00:28:49.120 like those are, like that's evil. That's totally evil. I mean, give up the one thing that really

00:28:54.760 matters that will bring you joy in your age in exchange for some shitty job at Citibank.

00:29:01.440 The January 6th thing is like, is the perfect, the perfect understanding way to, the perfect

00:29:07.460 template for understanding all of this. Because remember in the wake of January 6th,

00:29:10.520 that Washington Post article about how they were all in debt.

00:29:14.340 Oh, it was like-

00:29:15.160 I never will forget it.

00:29:16.100 It was the last piece of journalism that paper committed.

00:29:18.180 It was like three or four days. It was, it was very close to January 6th.

00:29:21.380 They did like a basic piece of journalism, like who are the people in the, in the crowd?

00:29:25.440 Yes.

00:29:25.600 And the answer to that question was that they were all in deep financial distress.

00:29:29.680 Yes.

00:29:29.920 Most of them. Not, not all of them, I guess, but a lot of them. They had bankruptcies and

00:29:34.800 massive amounts of debt and were very, had a lot of financial discontent. And that was the last time

00:29:40.540 I think that that paper treated them as humans. But at its core, what that story tells you is that

00:29:46.280 they don't have the financial means to fight back. If you have the full weight of the federal

00:29:49.060 government against you with a bottomless pit of resources, they can print their own money.

00:29:53.560 There's no chance you who have declared bankruptcy are going to survive in the face of that. No

00:29:57.780 matter how decent you were, no matter how few laws that you actually broke or whatever,

00:30:01.900 it doesn't matter. You're going to be destroyed. But if you're Purdue Pharma,

00:30:04.780 you're going to get immunity.

00:30:06.060 If you, to, to, to litigation, if you make opioids that kill people.

00:30:10.280 Well, of course you'll still, the Sacklers are still billionaires.

00:30:12.300 And then lie to them about that. Or, you know, if you're,

00:30:14.960 heck, even Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was headed towards a settlement until like,

00:30:19.800 there was a national uproar about it. And that guy, the 9-11 mastermind,

00:30:23.700 how many years out are we from that? And we have January 6th grandmas who are serving years in

00:30:28.520 prison. The guy with, the guy who you interviewed, Jacob Chansley, like years, like the sentences

00:30:34.620 that these people have been given. Lives destroyed. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed still haven't

00:30:39.200 resolved that. The 9-11 attacks. It's a crazy. Have we, um, so we, we got, uh,

00:30:44.960 Kevin McCarthy, um, the former kind of mediocre speaker who is now much missed by me to, to,

00:30:52.560 to, to give up some of the 9-11 footage, um, right before I got fired.

00:30:58.960 But the, the January 6th footage.

00:31:00.820 Rather the January 6th. Did I say 9-11?

00:31:02.960 Yeah. I was like, wow, that's a story. Tell me.

00:31:05.620 Yeah, that is a story. Like why are there any 9-11 documents still classified? Like, what is that?

00:31:10.660 Why are there any JFK documents still classified?

00:31:12.380 Well, you know why. Yeah. To protect people who lied about those events. But anyway, back to

00:31:17.080 January 6th. Sorry. Why are we going to have to wait, you know, 61 years to see the rest of the

00:31:23.260 January 6th footage? It's been almost four years. Yeah.

00:31:26.380 So why, why is the Republican speaker continuing to hold all this footage? Why not make it all public?

00:31:33.980 Sometimes I think that they get so obsessed with controlling the storylines.

00:31:38.040 Mm-hmm. They're not even good at it though. That's like the, but it's like, well, we can't

00:31:41.260 let that become the story because that could be a cost to us. I'm like, I don't know. What is the

00:31:44.580 evidence that you're great at this? Like, like, you know, what, what evidence should exist that

00:31:50.180 demonstrates that you are the person that we should rely on to set the timeline for when the

00:31:54.100 public finds out this stuff? Yeah. That's, it's idiotic. And, uh, yeah, I think I'd happen to believe

00:31:59.440 that telling the truth is, uh, the most important thing because the more you do that, so long as you

00:32:05.140 actually believe in our system as a place where the voters get to say, yeah, they have to have that

00:32:09.500 in order to make those decisions. That's it. That's the whole ball game. You can't have democracy

00:32:13.600 with censorship, period. Can I, can I, I know you don't want me to ask you too many questions,

00:32:18.160 but let me ask you one at least. Um, the fact that they replaced Biden. Yeah. Made me a little bit

00:32:24.540 hopeful that the election isn't quite as rigged as you might expect. In other words, they were so

00:32:31.540 concerned that the voters really would have their say with Biden in office that they replaced him.

00:32:37.100 They said, we can't, this is too much. And, and I, and I've, I've talked about this with friends on

00:32:42.020 the right and some of them are under the opinion that, oh no, it was too obvious. Like they, so if

00:32:46.440 they're going to rig the election, it'd be too obvious because nobody likes Biden and they don't

00:32:49.540 want to give away entirely that it was rigged. That's kind of the, I think the way that they explain

00:32:54.020 this away. I don't think, I think that's, I think that's wrong because the left is completely

00:32:58.400 brazen about their lives. I don't, I don't think they would pause for a moment to be like,

00:33:01.820 oh no, the public thinks it's rigged because Biden got reelected. I actually think that at least at

00:33:06.720 this moment that voters kind of like the way Trump is saying, if they can make it too big to rig,

00:33:13.420 they really do have a say right now, which is why the info war continues like the, the battle as Alex

00:33:19.000 Jones says, but the battle over, um, the voters minds is still so intense. It suggests to me very

00:33:26.380 strongly that the election system really does work at least to an extent.

00:33:32.700 But I think that's true in any system. I mean, what's so striking to me is how just having traveled

00:33:39.920 a lot and looked at a lot of different systems around the world is there really are no purely

00:33:45.020 totalitarian countries or systems that never have been. I mean, Stalin, who is about as close to an

00:33:50.860 absolute dictator Mao, same as the world has ever seen. Um, you know, both of those regimes spent

00:33:57.620 a huge amount of time and money on propaganda, even though they had absolute power, they could

00:34:01.320 kill anyone they wanted. So you, you really do end up ruling by consent, whether you want to or not,

00:34:08.020 whether it's manufactured consent or legitimate consent, but you have to control people's brains.

00:34:13.360 You can't just rule indefinitely at the point of a gun. So, um, you know, I'm not, I, I think you

00:34:20.400 make a good point. I want the people in charge to at least try to convince me because that shows

00:34:26.660 respect. Yeah. I'm not sure what is going on, to be honest with you. I mean, I haven't done

00:34:32.560 hallucinogens in 35 years, but I'm getting that kind of weird, like dream sequence feeling about

00:34:39.040 American politics right now. Yes. I'm not quite sure what the hell is this? Well, you had Ben Carson

00:34:43.420 on recently. Yeah. And he said something that stuck with me. I love Ben Carson. Yeah. He's a

00:34:48.300 great human being. And, um, he's a, he's a, the perfect case study in the way that the media will

00:34:54.140 destroy you as soon as you turn against their interests. Yes. Um, because Ben Carson was a

00:34:58.380 celebrated neurosurgeon, pediatric neurosurgeon, uh, up until the moment. And to the point that it was in

00:35:05.540 childhood curriculums to learn about Ben Carson's life in schools, and you'd read his book,

00:35:09.540 gifted hands and learn all about him. They later made a famous, a Hollywood movie about his life.

00:35:15.060 And the second he ran for politics, they cast him as a moron. He's an idiot. He's so stupid. He's,

00:35:22.880 he messed up brain surgeries all the time, right? You started seeing all these like stories come out

00:35:27.180 and then he was heralded by places like the New York times. And then of course, and then after that

00:35:31.260 eviscerated the second he declared interest in Republican politics. And the second, especially that

00:35:35.520 he spoke up on behalf of life. That was so on the God frequency though, as you know,

00:35:39.780 I know you know him. He's like, it, it doesn't even, it doesn't, it doesn't bother him. He's got

00:35:44.120 such a great attitude. I love it. It's infectious. So he said to you that this switcheroo that they

00:35:50.320 just pulled off is a test of the media's ability to rig the election. That's right. Nicely put.

00:35:56.600 And I love that. I love that because it's true and, uh, we're witnessing it right now. So my thought

00:36:04.120 process is, and I wonder about you too, is that at what point does the media's ego get in the way of

00:36:10.980 their partisan priorities? In other words, Kamala is refusing to do interviews. And right now their

00:36:17.120 partisan priorities are to get her elected. But you and I both know these people in the press.

00:36:22.220 And if there's one thing that might override their partisan priorities, it's their obsession with

00:36:27.480 themselves to the point that like this drumbeat of like, why isn't she doing an interview?

00:36:32.380 Why isn't she sitting down with CNN? Why isn't she sitting down with ABC? It's enough to be

00:36:37.300 enticing. Yes. To the people in that world that they're like, you're beginning to see at least

00:36:42.220 little murmurs of it. Like, oh, she, she should do an interview. Well, you know, the voters deserve

00:36:45.720 that. You're beginning to see, I, I think that their egos may override their partisan priorities.

00:36:49.940 I hope so. I hope. Though, I guess the kind of argument would be to work at a place like NBC News or

00:36:55.560 CNN and I've worked at both, um, now requires total degradation, total. Like you can have no

00:37:03.340 self-respect at all. Um, or you couldn't work there because you're being told to say things

00:37:08.980 that are obviously untrue to lie every single day. There's no dissent allowed. And your average adult

00:37:14.980 man wouldn't put up with that because it's like, well, I have opinions too. And as a, like a human

00:37:19.480 being and not a slave, I get to express my opinions. No, you can't. I think that's an intolerable

00:37:24.000 work environment for anyone with, with any dignity at all. Therefore, the people who work there,

00:37:29.800 um, most of whom I know, uh, they just don't have any dignity left. I mean, I hope I'm wrong.

00:37:36.220 I want everyone to have dignity, but I don't see it. Do you? No, it's like very humiliating.

00:37:42.540 It's so humiliating. Um, I work at CNN, really? Just the, the, the crimes of omission are really,

00:37:49.280 they're just liars. It's, and then to like go on TV and then to treat people who would support

00:37:55.420 Trump with contempt, which they were doing like this very weekend. There's like the Sunday shows

00:37:59.040 like we interviewed these people and they have no idea what they're talking about is basically

00:38:02.480 like what? I know. And you do living like this absurdly pampered life, like completely away from

00:38:09.700 all of the problems that these people have very real problems. I saw, I saw Don Lamont is running

00:38:18.220 around right now. He's doing man on the street interviews. That's his latest iteration. For

00:38:20.960 whom? For Don Lamont. It's his DL on his microphone. For his own. On his microphone. I haven't talked

00:38:27.360 to Don in a while. I had high hopes for Don, but he learned nothing. I know you did. I know you did.

00:38:32.820 Because you're good about that. But when he was, when he was talking to these. We got fired the same

00:38:36.680 day. Yeah, I know. I called him right away. But yeah, I call everyone when they're fired, period.

00:38:44.900 But yeah, he, Don, I, I wanted him. Because usually getting fired, you know, you learn something about

00:38:51.640 yourself. Sure. It's humbling. It's so important to be fired regularly, I would say, especially if

00:38:57.480 you're arrogant like I am. So I've really enjoyed getting fired, but, and I thought this will be

00:39:01.500 totally good for Don. It'll be totally good for me, which it was. And, but Don didn't seem to even

00:39:06.760 pause. No. And I, the giveaway was his interview with Elon Musk. It was a total disaster because he

00:39:13.900 refused to take any inventory of his priors. It was entirely a political, like partisan talking

00:39:18.600 points exercise. It was really embarrassing, actually, because if Don Lemon, I want to get

00:39:24.820 back to his man on the street thing in a minute, but Don Lemon, like a decade ago, was willing to say

00:39:29.200 things on television that his network didn't agree with. Yes. And there's like this famous Morgan

00:39:34.360 Freeman interview he did where the two of them were sitting around talking about how obsessing over

00:39:39.420 race actually exacerbates racial division in the country. That's for sure. And we should stop doing

00:39:43.020 that. That's what the two of them sitting there agreeing on that subject. I was like, what happened

00:39:46.460 to that guy? He just, he just sold out, I guess. I, it is from and far, I don't know him. But how can you

00:39:52.860 get fired if you're Don Lemon and you get, you know, you're hired at CNN, you're gay,

00:39:58.520 you're black, you obviously can never be fired, obviously, because you can't fire someone in

00:40:03.480 those categories. Ask anyone who runs a business. You can't, you're afraid to. And they fire you

00:40:08.460 anyway. Then at least part of you has to think like, how did I get fired? Like, what did I do

00:40:14.620 wrong? I must've played some role in this. They suck. Okay, that's fine. I hate my bosses. They

00:40:18.480 humiliate me. You know, I'm mad at them. I get it. I've certainly been there. But come on, it's like a

00:40:23.280 marriage. Like if it, if it blows up, each side has some culpability. What's mine? Like,

00:40:28.500 what did I do wrong? That's true. I don't think he even, I, and I had a long conversation with him

00:40:33.640 on the phone. I should have said, Don, you know, you've got good, I think Don has good qualities,

00:40:39.640 great qualities for TV, actually. And I told him that, but you should just really pause and ask

00:40:45.500 yourself. Like, yes, CNN sucks. I can confirm that as a former employee, but you kind of suck

00:40:51.960 too. So that's what fired people have to ask themselves, but he never did. Well, the underlying

00:40:57.700 question for, at least for me watching from the outside was, okay, so now he's free. He doesn't

00:41:04.160 have anybody telling him what he, what he has to say. It's so great. The script is gone and there's

00:41:09.680 nobody, there's no advertisers for you to, in fact, you can build your own. You have to do that whole

00:41:13.500 world. And he stuck to the script. I was like, oh, so I guess he truly believes this nonsense.

00:41:19.100 And that's gets to this man on the street. He's talking to people like all across, I guess,

00:41:22.880 across the country. He's going to different places or beach communities that he's staying in. And he

00:41:26.300 just happens to put a microphone in people's faces. I'm not sure, but he's talking to people

00:41:29.520 and he's asking them who you're supporting. And he's getting a lot of people saying, Trump,

00:41:33.340 voting for Trump. And a lot of black people responding, I'm voting for Trump. And in one,

00:41:38.120 he confronts the guy who says, uh, I was better off financially under Trump. And he says, that's

00:41:44.360 not true. Don, that's not true. No, you were, you were happier. He's like, uh, Trump wasn't

00:41:51.640 president. He's like fact check, false, a fact check, uh, false. Like did he actually, he didn't

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00:44:27.600 The Greeks invented democracy. So if you like democracy, you're Greek. If you've ever voted for

00:44:44.980 a candidate, voted someone off an island, left work early to go to the polls, or lied about going to the

00:44:50.780 polls so you could leave work early, that's good enough. You're Greek. So eat like it. That means

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00:45:01.980 you pillar of democracy, you. You're Greek. Eat like it with Jimmy the Greek. Hashtag gimme jimmy.

00:45:11.780 No, but can I just ask, even like economic analysis aside, the arrogance required to look

00:45:19.220 into someone's face and disagree with his own assessment of his financials? Like, no, actually,

00:45:24.880 no, actually, we've never met before. But what you just told me about your life is not true.

00:45:29.840 It can't be true. It's like, shut up and listen. Just listen to people for a second. Like it's,

00:45:36.140 first of all, it's kind of fun. Second, you learn a lot. And, but how arrogant would you have to be

00:45:41.320 not to listen? Just ask a few questions and then bounce your own assumptions off them and see what

00:45:45.720 they say. Vince, I know you, you told me that you were diagnosed with cancer recently,

00:45:50.020 but you don't have cancer. We've never met. I'm not a physician, but I just want to say you don't

00:45:54.900 have cancer. Silly man. That's right. That would be true. That'd be true if I met Cori Bush, right?

00:46:00.620 She has healing hands. You ever, you know that story? No, what, wait, stop. What's, wait,

00:46:04.820 Cori Bush has healing hands? Cori Bush is convinced that she has the ability to heal

00:46:08.860 illnesses with her hands. Okay. She just placed her hands on you and you're healed.

00:46:12.600 Uh, she said, I believe that that exists. She, no, but Cori Bush specifically has this power

00:46:17.740 and she's been holding out on us, I think, uh, because Cori Bush, the Congress, the Congresswoman

00:46:22.660 just got beaten in the primary. There's like a lot of, there's a lot of illness all across the

00:46:26.000 country. Why is she wasting her time? Not healing it. Yeah. What is she doing in a committee meeting

00:46:30.160 when she could be fixing pancreatic? I mean, I thought, yeah, I thought Biden's whole thing was

00:46:34.500 like curing cancer of the moonshot initiative. Hello, we've got Cori Bush. Yeah. Hello. Cancer rates

00:46:39.180 skyrocketed under Biden. Quite incredible. Yeah. Amazing. Wow. So Don is doing a, sorry,

00:46:46.400 just to close out the Don Lamont conversation. He was highly annoyed. He told me that I called

00:46:50.440 him Don Lamont. I thought it was hilarious. And by the way, I said it with affection.

00:46:53.580 Uh-huh. Mr. Lamont is here. Yeah. He always reminded me of Ricardo Montalban

00:46:57.480 and Fantasy Island. Welcome to Fantasy Island. It's a better, it is a better pronunciation.

00:47:03.000 I just always pictured him in like an ascot, like roll with it, like be who you are. You know what I mean?

00:47:08.080 Totally. He had a kind of Suave Bolo vibe to him that I found hilarious and kind of charming.

00:47:14.620 And just be that guy. Don't give me a lecture about journalism. You have no idea what it is.

00:47:18.420 You've never practiced it. Just like be your kind of 70s self. You know what I mean? Yeah.

00:47:24.180 Whatever. But what is, who is he working for now? I have no idea. I don't know how much money he's

00:47:30.200 generating or what, but I guess it's kind of funny because he was, he's like complaining about his

00:47:34.380 relationship with Elon Musk and he thought he had some arrangement. I don't even know what that means.

00:47:38.080 But he's still producing content and posting it to X. So, whatever.

00:47:44.020 I, my feeling was, and again, I haven't called him, I should, is that he was kind of running out

00:47:50.180 of options. Again, if you're Don Lamont and you get fired from CNN, like how hard would that be?

00:47:57.020 I mean, how many times did the HR department say when he was hassling female employees, for example,

00:48:01.460 like, yeah, we can't, we can't fire this guy. I'm sorry. Like it had to have been pretty bad.

00:48:06.600 Yeah. To get that far.

00:48:08.140 I think so.

00:48:09.060 Yeah.

00:48:09.480 Yeah.

00:48:10.240 Yeah. It's pretty amazing.

00:48:11.420 So what, um, Biden's talking tonight at the DNC, what's he going to say?

00:48:17.120 I know what he's not going to say, which is he's not going to hold everything that happened

00:48:24.720 against, uh, to him against his own party. He's not going to take it out on them. He is

00:48:30.900 suffering the latest indignity to his presidency, which is the sitting president of the United

00:48:36.640 States is speaking on night one of the Democrat convention. That's as humiliating as it gets.

00:48:42.720 You're so right. It's low. It's the lowest billing place they can put him. They want

00:48:47.460 to get it done and over with. So people don't think about him for the rest of the week.

00:48:50.800 That's a good point.

00:48:51.540 It's the whole thing. And, you know, and they're dressing it up as, oh, it's a theme. You know,

00:48:55.360 we have him first and then Obama second and Clinton third. And, uh, and then Kamala finishes

00:49:00.160 things off. This is what they want to leave you with. But realistically, you understand the

00:49:03.720 tactics here. It's like, they want to bury this. They know they've got to feature him,

00:49:07.000 but they want to bury it on night. If the DNC was a fancy restaurant, Biden would be seated

00:49:11.840 right next to the men's room. For sure. That is not a fashionable table. He's in the last row

00:49:16.640 and coach. I know, totally. Really upset that there's a line for the bathroom next to him.

00:49:22.040 He's in a middle seat. Yeah, that's, I know it's such a good point. But, um, well, I mean,

00:49:28.640 he deserves it and so much more and he'll get, he'll get what he deserves. But, um, like it does

00:49:35.620 seem like prerequisite for party membership is being willing to set aside your own interests,

00:49:41.580 your own self-respect, your own dignity on behalf of the collective.

00:49:45.580 Yeah. I mean, how bitter do you think he is about this in real life?

00:49:49.900 I don't know. I don't know to what extent he's capable of complex emotions or thoughts like that,

00:49:55.460 um, at this stage because he is impaired. But I, I know pretty certainly that his wife and his

00:50:03.260 son and his daughter, uh, you know, feel the sting. I mean, how could they not?

00:50:08.960 Yeah.

00:50:09.540 Guy's president of the United States. He, is he still, he is still president, right?

00:50:13.020 But then Obama stabbed him in the back, uh, and in the front and, you know, Nancy Pelosi stabbed him.

00:50:19.340 They all did. They swooped in and they, and they took him out and they're not really ashamed of it at

00:50:23.600 all. They're like, they're, they're pretty nakedly brazen about it. Uh, and that's, and that's what we're

00:50:29.420 left with. And like, it is so fundamentally at its core, anti-democratic. It's not about at all

00:50:36.340 the, about the consent of the governed. In fact, the primary itself was rigged. I mean, Biden should

00:50:40.720 have never even been on their primary ballot. The voters, 14 million, which is not that many

00:50:44.500 people, but 14 million people registered the thoughts on the subject. And they said, we're

00:50:47.900 with Biden. But again, it was, it was rigged. They kept everybody else off the ballot. They wanted

00:50:51.400 to keep RFK away from it. And Dean Phillips and anybody who would possibly even deter from,

00:50:57.160 from Biden gathering. My pal, Jill Stein. Yeah. Jill Stein. All of them. But can I just

00:51:02.540 ask just, um, like about the nature of the democratic party? It's, I don't vote Democrat

00:51:08.360 because I don't agree with them on most things. Well, now I don't agree with them on anything.

00:51:13.480 Uh, but really I don't vote Democrat because I don't understand like the requirements for

00:51:21.300 membership. Like you've got a couple of brothers, parents, wife, child, you know, you've got a very,

00:51:29.000 I know your family, very close family. If somebody said, you know, in order to remain a conservative

00:51:33.840 or a publican or a radio show host in good standing, you have to denounce your brother,

00:51:38.900 Fred. Not a chance. Like, I think you'd die before you did that. Not a chance in the world. Right.

00:51:44.360 That's right. Not a chance. If they told me to reject the tenants of my faith, I wouldn't.

00:51:48.120 If they told me to attack my family, I wouldn't. Under any circumstance. No. In fact, that courtesy,

00:51:54.200 that, that obligation extends to the people I care about who aren't my family members. Me too.

00:51:58.220 Me too. So that's like. So personal loyalty is more important to you. Love is more important to

00:52:04.260 you than any human made structure. Correct? A hundred percent. Right. A hundred percent.

00:52:09.860 But that's not true for partisan Democrats. It's not true in the Biden family.

00:52:14.380 Just look at what they did with Joe. I know. I don't,

00:52:17.460 there's no circumstance where I let my senile grandfather like run the country. Yes.

00:52:23.900 Nevertheless, drive a car. I know. You know, you take away his license and you figure out how to

00:52:28.460 take care of him. How many people do you know where as they had relative advanced to like really late

00:52:33.300 stage of losing their faculties, they had to take their guns away or like take their license away.

00:52:39.860 That's right. It's a super difficult conversation. Oh, yeah.

00:52:42.640 But it's one that's done out of immense love. It's really hard. And that's not, that's not what

00:52:48.060 happened here. Instead, we all got stuck with the liabilities, the country that is. And, you know,

00:52:54.220 I do think that obviously crystal clear, as you've said for so long, and I've been saying a long time,

00:52:59.420 there's a lot of string pulling going on with Biden. Yeah.

00:53:02.160 You're supposed to comfort yourself with this notion that somebody else is actually running

00:53:05.420 the show. Don't worry. The senile guy's not. But I actually think the most dangerous answer is that

00:53:09.720 he is in charge of some things. And I think some of the chaos we've seen is the result of that.

00:53:15.440 I think Afghanistan in a big way was probably as a result of his senility. The fact that we lost all

00:53:21.980 those people, 13, and then he gets there to that dignified transfer of remains, which should be a

00:53:26.860 dignified transfer of remains in Delaware and doesn't for a moment give them the decency that

00:53:32.740 they deserve in light of his decisions. Talks about himself and his own son who died in a rock

00:53:37.300 in a firefight. Yeah. Ignores them, stares at his watch. It's some of the most offensive things that

00:53:44.800 any of us have ever seen. Well, he did something that I saw personally up close several years ago

00:53:50.760 before he ran that I thought was one of the lowest things I've ever seen. He had this daughter-in-law,

00:53:56.280 his son, Hunter's wife, who I thought was a great person. I thought she was a great person.

00:54:02.640 And he winds up having an affair with his sister-in-law. And, you know, obviously this

00:54:08.240 is devastating to his wife and three children. You know, but these things, you know, whatever,

00:54:13.840 I'm trying to judge, but it's a big deal, right? And it's a big deal in the neighborhood that we live

00:54:17.900 in in DC at the time. And Joe Biden in his horrible, disgusting, ludicrous, fake doctor

00:54:26.060 wife, issue this statement saying, we support Hunter and his new love, you know, our deceased

00:54:34.020 son's widow. And don't even mention his daughter-in-law, who has been a loyal family member

00:54:42.420 for over 20 years, has traveled a lot with Joe Biden because his wife didn't want to go with him.

00:54:46.240 I saw this. And, you know, Kathleen Biden's like the mother of their three grandchildren. Like,

00:54:52.060 this is not my business, someone else's family. Okay. I generally try not to judge these things,

00:54:55.800 but he issues a public statement saying we're on the new chick side. Well, what about this girl

00:55:01.920 was your daughter? I have a daughter-in-law. Like, I know that's a really intense and important

00:55:06.220 relationship in a family, particularly the father and his daughter-in-law. The mother of your

00:55:10.280 grandchildren? Are you joking? Yeah. And they just ignore her like she never existed?

00:55:15.420 I thought, I was so offended by that. I just couldn't believe a man would do that.

00:55:22.000 But then they reiterated it with London Roberts. She's been a loyal, good daughter-in-law.

00:55:25.040 They did the same thing with London Roberts and her daughter, Navy Joan. You know, they,

00:55:29.420 Hunter's daughter, you know, just ignoring her existence, not even like, like actually going out

00:55:35.760 of their way to insult her existence with the whole like stockings thing at Christmas. Like,

00:55:39.280 they won't even hang her name up. They refuse to acknowledge she exists. And to this day,

00:55:43.020 I just talked to London Roberts not long ago. We interviewed her. She had, she put a book out

00:55:46.700 about the subject and it's kind of, she still wants to kind of earn her way into their world.

00:55:51.680 I think that's the impression I got. And I, I don't think she should bother with that at all

00:55:57.440 because like, they've been pretty clear about what they think of her and the family.

00:56:00.160 How could you do that? How could you do that? William F. Buckley did that. His son had an

00:56:05.620 illegitimate child, his grandson. And William F. Buckley in his will said, I'm not, you know,

00:56:11.080 no money for him. If I'm remembering this correctly and I'm sorry, I know everyone

00:56:15.120 reveres William F. Buckley, but I just, I, I lost all respect. I have no respect for that at all. If

00:56:20.180 you, it's your child or grandchild, like that's really important. The grandchild's innocent.

00:56:26.220 Well, I totally agree. And your blood. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I don't get, it's a big deal.

00:56:31.180 It's so sidetracked, but like, I think Joe Biden is actually a really rotten person,

00:56:35.780 I guess is what I'm saying. I hate to say that. And I think it matters. So what sort of person you are.

00:56:40.420 I do. Everyone's like, Oh, it doesn't matter. What matters to me. Yeah, it does matter. And all

00:56:45.520 of the, like the, the, you know, and Trump is a complicated person, of course, and he's got,

00:56:49.800 he has moral failings, no question. But the lies that we're constantly told about his moral failings

00:56:54.900 are like absurd. Like the idea that he's like trying to personally profit off of the presidency,

00:56:59.380 like all of the available evidence, uh, uh, like demonstrates the complete opposite. Like he's

00:57:05.160 lost billions of dollars in net worth by doing it. It's endless hassle, endless litigation,

00:57:08.840 and like, like I, what deal has existed that has enriched him as a result of having been in the

00:57:14.920 president? Well, he's gotten a lot poorer for sure. Um, does feel to me like he's going to go to jail

00:57:21.980 if he doesn't win. They're going to put him in jail. They're very desperate for that. Are they going

00:57:25.860 to put him in jail before? I keep hearing people keep sending me this stuff. That sentencing date

00:57:30.020 is mid-September. That's correct. The 18th, I think. And, um, they really want to. I, I, uh,

00:57:37.500 this will come down to, I think, a political assessment because they don't want to martyr

00:57:42.260 him ahead of it. So the, so. Putting a man in jail two months, what, you know, eight weeks before a

00:57:48.680 presidential election? No, that's right. On fake charges? That's right. But that, that judge,

00:57:53.260 remember, he kept threatening him with all these gag orders and saying, oh, you violated it,

00:57:56.220 violated it, but he never quite put him in jail, even though he was constantly hanging that thread

00:57:59.660 out there. I think it's because they became aware during the trial that this was backfiring

00:58:04.300 politically. So it wasn't just Biden self-immolating. It was that the public started

00:58:08.480 becoming convinced that Trump really is a victim of a rigged system. And that was showing up in the

00:58:13.260 polls throughout that process. And so they have to be cognizant of this. Now I won't put it past them

00:58:18.540 to do something tyrannical that's against their political interests because they have this

00:58:22.780 overriding desire. They can't control themselves. Yeah. But it's one of the factors. It's so

00:58:26.780 unfortunate that that's it. That's what it's all about. It's hard to believe. Yeah. I, I, I guess

00:58:31.440 this is the disadvantage, as I said earlier, of age. It's like, I, I refuse to believe that could even

00:58:35.560 happen in the United States. But if it did, I think we could wind up. I mean, that close to the

00:58:41.040 election. I don't know if they'll do it, but this is, here's the thing that still amazes me.

00:58:45.780 July 13th, Trump was shot in the head this year, in case you were forgetting. The news cycle lasted

00:58:54.220 maybe a week, maybe two on that subject. And it's evaporated. It's gone. Do you, I mean,

00:59:03.040 I was, I know how quickly news cycles move. So I, I, and the, and the desire not to talk about that.

00:59:08.400 I could, I could smell it coming a thousand miles away. I knew that they would move on.

00:59:11.360 Well, the Trump people didn't want to talk about it, to be honest, but Biden's secret service allowed

00:59:17.260 Trump to get shot in the face. They allowed it whether, you know, intentionally or not. So like,

00:59:21.500 why is that not the biggest story in the world? But you would think it would be the biggest story

00:59:24.360 all the way through the election. Like in, like in once again, normal America, if a presidential

00:59:29.660 candidate gets shot in the head, you would think that the overflowing of sympathy and certainly all

00:59:34.860 of the media attention on that subject would basically put them on a glide path to the election

00:59:38.240 that for the remainder of the election, which is not that much time left, that we'd be litigating

00:59:42.860 all of this. How did this happen? How do we prevent it from happening? Why did somebody shoot

00:59:46.060 Trump? The underlying motivations. Have you noticed like there's no conversation about that anymore?

00:59:50.540 The motive, the motive question disappeared in like five seconds. It was like the Vegas shooter.

00:59:54.220 It disappeared. Well, he was just your average 20 year old with no social media profile whatsoever.

00:59:58.700 No motive at all. No one helped him do it. Um, and you know, there was no real security failure

01:00:06.220 at all. You just couldn't put an agent on a roof with a pitch that steep. It's just, it's pretty,

01:00:10.520 pretty conventional stuff. 140 yards from the, from the stage. Yeah. Um, but you saw the Biden

01:00:17.980 administration allow an assassination attempt to shooting and that's just a, that's a fact.

01:00:25.000 They allowed that. And again, I'm not saying they did it on purpose. Seems pretty clear they did.

01:00:31.080 How could that not be on purpose? But I don't have any proof of that, but they, they allowed it.

01:00:34.740 We can say that conclusively and no one ever mentioned it again. And, and Republicans don't

01:00:39.300 mention it. I don't understand why. One of the ways I think that they allowed it, one of the,

01:00:44.100 because once you're knocking on really important doors and like, if you start opening a bunch of

01:00:49.580 them, eventually you get to a place you're like, man, this is really dark. What we just saw.

01:00:52.460 It's so dark. I agree. Um, I think one place that I've been in is that the Biden administration,

01:00:58.780 um, is ruthless in, in how they wield the government politically, as we know, with the United States

01:01:04.120 Department of Justice. And they, they resent the fact that Trump gets secret service protection at

01:01:10.620 all. They hate that they have to give him by virtue of the law as a former president, secret service

01:01:16.560 protection. So to the extent that they give him anything, they're just like, whatever, we'll send

01:01:21.740 him something, but protecting him, not a priority, protecting Dr. Jill, when she's doing an event in

01:01:27.420 Pittsburgh and an indoor arena, just down the road from Trump, uh, you know, it, in a, in a really

01:01:31.640 sophisticated way with all the teams necessary to protect her and going above and beyond a hundred

01:01:36.300 percent, we'll do that. Yeah. The repulsive fake Dr. Harpy wife gets all the bodyguards she wants,

01:01:41.160 but, but the candidate doesn't. But the secret service director that she handpicked for the role,

01:01:47.040 Kim Cheadle, because Kim Cheadle served on Jill Biden's detail when she was in the white house

01:01:52.800 originally with, uh, when Joe Biden was vice president. So, so, so they choose Kim Cheadle to

01:01:58.440 run the show. The last thing they're going to do is concern themselves with how safe is Trump and

01:02:02.380 should we give him what he needs? Screw that guy. We'll give him the bare minimum. Meanwhile,

01:02:06.820 if in case you're looking for evidence that Biden and Jill and the secret service are political,

01:02:12.900 look no further than RFK. RFK asked for secret service protection because he's from the most

01:02:18.000 assassinated family in American political history. And because there's actual threats to his life and

01:02:22.620 he actually needs it in order to conduct a presidential campaign, but because they were,

01:02:27.000 they were so petty that they didn't want to dignify his campaign as real. They refuse to give him secret

01:02:32.900 service protection merely because they didn't want to give him the visual of being considered a

01:02:38.120 presidential candidate. That's it. They were just like, screw that guy. So they're making all these

01:02:42.200 political considerations. They refuse to give RFK protection. And then Trump, they barely give him,

01:02:46.720 they give him the B squad and he gets shot in the head. That's one interpretation of events.

01:02:53.180 Yeah. Here are a couple of fat girls who don't know how to operate a firearm.

01:02:55.940 Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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01:05:35.260 Yeah, it is. It's so overwhelming that, um, because if you live in a country where the secret

01:05:54.340 service is corrupted and we clearly do live in that country, then it's like at that point,

01:06:00.800 you know, that's a life or death thing. You know, that's not the education department. That's a,

01:06:04.480 that's a core function.

01:06:05.740 They investigate who left cocaine at the white house and then they destroy the evidence within

01:06:09.620 weeks. And they say, the investigation's closed. There's no chance we'll ever get to the bottom of

01:06:13.280 it. They destroyed it. They didn't keep it. I mean, how much cocaine could they possibly have had?

01:06:18.420 It's not like they were running out of real estate. Like just keep it in the evidence room. You know,

01:06:23.200 we can keep this for a while. We'll keep the case open. We'll see if we can get some answers.

01:06:26.240 They destroyed it. What does that tell you?

01:06:30.160 Yeah. It tells you that, um, like maybe the one, the agencies that can never be corrupted,

01:06:36.500 no matter what, that have to remain as pure as any government agency can remain pure,

01:06:41.380 um, have been totally, you know, so that would include, I'm sorry to say it in your presence.

01:06:46.780 I know you're a product of military family, but DOD. Yeah. FBI and secret service. And of course,

01:06:53.260 CIA and DIA. And they're working really hard to do it to the Supreme court right now.

01:06:56.820 Oh, I know.

01:06:57.260 They're working very hard to corrupt that institution because it's not serving their power

01:07:01.020 interests, at least not to the extent that they want it to. And, uh, so that needs to be corrupted

01:07:05.400 too. It's a, it's a virus and it just, it just keeps on spreading. It just keeps spreading.

01:07:09.620 And now they're using Kamala as the vehicle for all of this. And she is so dumb. She's shockingly

01:07:19.560 dumb. Is she? You can tell. Can't you tell? Well, she, she seems, um, well, she's dumb in a,

01:07:26.900 in a, in a, in a, she's socially dumb. She, she doesn't know how to communicate with people.

01:07:30.720 Yes. Like human beings are alien to her. Yes. And she really doesn't have time for them.

01:07:35.080 And she, she tries to figure out a way to condescend to them. And then she just ends up

01:07:38.960 speaking in circles. Yes. Because she doesn't actually know how to communicate.

01:07:41.800 Well, she kissed her husband with a mask on and, you know, as a married person, I looked

01:07:46.980 at that and I was like, I, there's, there's kind of no explaining that, you know, that is

01:07:51.760 sort of the end of any potential respect I had for you. Kiss your husband with a mask

01:07:55.640 on. Tim Walls shakes his wife's hand on stage. Well, Tim Walls, I mean, you know, yeah, come

01:08:04.840 on now. Walls out for Kamala. No. Yeah. I mean, Tim Walls. I'm sorry. Uh, that, that it's

01:08:13.580 so, it's so funny to live in a society where you have to like deny obvious things. I look

01:08:17.060 at Tim Walls, I'm like, Oh, I know exactly who you are. Like instantly, like instantly I

01:08:22.840 went to boarding school. I know who Tim Walls is, um, big time. And you can't, I mean, I actually

01:08:29.300 don't, I know I have zero actual evidence, but having spent four years in a New England boarding

01:08:34.340 school in the eighties, like I, you know, his type, are you kidding? Oh yes. Oh, I

01:08:39.680 had a couple of doormasters like Tim Walls for sure. Um, show up in your room late night

01:08:45.340 drunk to talk about stuff. Yeah. Um, you know, he's like, he's like, he's absurd. He's a

01:08:49.720 cartoon character in so many ways. A tyrannical cartoon character. I, well, of course. So like

01:08:53.640 he did, he did start the gay club at his high school. Oh, I'm very aware of that. He started

01:08:56.920 the, you know, what was it? Gay Straight Alliance. Gay Straight Alliance. Yeah. Totally

01:08:59.900 normal. He was the, um, he, you know, he was just, he was just sick of bullying. You

01:09:03.800 know, he just couldn't, he couldn't handle the bullying. Yeah. Yeah. He was just pretty

01:09:07.800 sure. It's just so funny. That's funny for a guy who shot his own residence with paint

01:09:10.940 balls for standing on their Porsche. Uh huh. And that's the, who's, who established a snitch

01:09:15.700 line during COVID for noncompliance with. It's all of a, it's all of a piece. I would

01:09:21.040 say it's all very consistent with what, I mean, I remember, oh, I could tell you stories.

01:09:26.000 It was, you know, whatever. I can't even get into this. But the bottom line is I look at

01:09:30.800 Tim Walls and I'm like, I know exactly, you could have been a, you could have been the

01:09:34.960 doormaster on my hall in 1984, you know, getting all the boys to let's go boxing Sunday morning.

01:09:42.480 Here's a, here's our special athletic supporter that, you know, you have to wear. Um. But he's

01:09:48.220 a very deceptive human being. Oh. Like everything about him is. Does anyone else notice this about

01:09:52.900 Tim Walls? I mean, is this. Again, I, I shouldn't. I'm probably way over my skis. I have zero

01:09:59.200 evidence other than just what seems clear. Like I, what's some of the best advice I ever got,

01:10:04.880 which has turned out to be true all these decades later from a really wise person. It's like,

01:10:09.320 trust your instincts on people. Like. Okay. I mean, he allowed American cities to burn to the

01:10:14.340 ground. I think you can mock him a little bit. I think that's allowed for being. I know you just

01:10:18.360 hate to say things that you can't, I'm, I'm, I'm doing heavy implication here, but the guy,

01:10:24.300 there's something wrong with the guy. I guess that's just really obvious. Does it,

01:10:26.660 does it matter? He's the running mate. He's the beta. He's in the bitch seat. Does it actually

01:10:31.020 matter politically? Probably not. Maybe, but maybe it does. I just don't want somebody working

01:10:35.340 out their issues while trying to take charge of the country. The whole thing. These people are

01:10:38.580 all freaks. There's not like one person who has a normal, happy, personal life. Like, and by the way,

01:10:45.680 there are very few on the Republican side. Very J.D. Vance is one of them, which is one of the reasons I was

01:10:49.300 so enthusiastic. The guy was a pretty normal guy actually, but I think it really matters. If you don't,

01:10:55.620 if you don't go home to some normal relationship, it's based on love and respect and honesty.

01:11:02.140 If you're kissing your husband with a mask on or shaking hands with your wife,

01:11:06.620 you're a freak. And I feel sorry for you, but no, you can't have power. No power for you. Freak.

01:11:12.620 That's how I feel. This, uh, this weekend, they, uh, put Kamala in some like,

01:11:17.780 like small test unscripted moments. Like, let's see what she can do with this, you know? And it all

01:11:22.380 went disastrously. Uh, but one of them was that she was in Pennsylvania. She stopped at a Sheetz

01:11:26.480 gas station. Now when I think Sheetz, I think it's basically, you know, like a Wawa, like it's a

01:11:30.980 touchscreen sandwich shop. You know, you go and you enter your order and then the sandwich show up a

01:11:35.580 few minutes later. Somebody makes it for you. I thought it was a gas station. Yeah, it's a gas

01:11:38.840 station, but fundamentally on the inside, if you're going to visit the indoors of it, you'll get your

01:11:42.220 sandwich there on the touchscreen. Yeah. Everyone, anyone who lives near a Sheetz knows that that's

01:11:46.740 what it's worth. That's what you do. Kamala Harris goes into the Sheetz gas station. She brings her

01:11:52.260 husband and, uh, she brings Tim Walls, phony Tim Walls. And, uh, they go in together and what does

01:12:00.000 she shop for? A bag of Doritos. She's like, she walks in there like, what are you getting? What

01:12:05.020 are you getting? And she's like, Doritos, she says. And she walks around like she has no idea where the

01:12:10.080 chips are. She's like staring all around the store. She has no idea. And her husband grabs it

01:12:16.500 and she goes, Oh, Dougie. And she reaches and she grabs the bag. She pulls them away. She's like,

01:12:21.100 I'll take those. And she rips them out of her hand, rips, rips the Doritos out of his hands.

01:12:25.380 And then, and then cackles. And she walks off. Everything about it felt so completely unnatural

01:12:30.420 and controlled. Well, I think it's, I mean, I've only been to Sheetz a few times, but the one thing

01:12:33.840 I remember about Sheetz, they have one of the world's second to Bucky's, but one of the world's

01:12:38.260 largest selections of chewing tobacco, every kind of dip like ever, including like some you've never,

01:12:43.860 you know, pomegranate flavored or whatever. I always buy a 10 or two there. I don't know how

01:12:48.700 you could pass by the extensive snuff selection to buy Doritos. Like that itself is disqualifying.

01:12:55.220 Yeah. And they're not even cool ranch. Like they were regular Doritos. Like if, if I've,

01:13:00.200 I'm not a Doritos person, but I know Doritos aficionados. Yeah. They're all cool ranch people.

01:13:04.200 Are they? I totally believe that. Like the regular Doritos, like what a poser. And she has no idea what

01:13:09.520 she's doing. And by the way, you're making me think, I want to see her in Bucky's. I want to see

01:13:13.600 the Kamala Harris Bucky's fusion experience. I'd love to.

01:13:17.500 I doubt there are many people in Bucky's. Bucky's is a truck stop in Texas. I think it's moved to

01:13:24.480 Florida now. It's all over the place now. Right. And they have more gas station bays than any other

01:13:28.280 conventional gas station. And the cleanest bathrooms, most famously a candy selection.

01:13:32.660 I was in there late night. You can buy artwork in the bathrooms. For real? Yeah. The walls of the,

01:13:38.340 leading into all the bathrooms, they have artwork on the wall with prices. So when you're in the

01:13:43.460 bathroom, you can choose art and buy it off the wall. Wow. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's a cool

01:13:48.720 place. They make beef jerky and all the fudge you could possibly eat and all the barbecue you could

01:13:53.460 possibly have. Tell me about it. I was in a Bucky's. We were doing a book tour in like 2018,

01:13:59.260 maybe. And I was on the road. Emily Lynn is sitting right there. And we, I had the driver pull over

01:14:05.340 into Bucky's like three in the morning. We're driving from like Dallas to Houston. Yeah. And no one had been

01:14:09.080 to Bucky's. And I was like, Bucky's is the greatest. Cause I love, I always buy all the

01:14:13.380 weird chewing tobacco there. So we're wandering through Bucky's and, um, I get to the candy

01:14:18.160 area. I love candy. Yeah. And. And they have like old fashioned candy. They've got like walls.

01:14:23.500 I was going, and I, they had like a thing, like malted milk balls. Yeah. It was like $4 for

01:14:28.340 four pounds. And I'm getting this thing and Emily comes up and takes my arm and she's like,

01:14:32.300 I think that's enough. I was like, thank God you're here. No, you do need, that's true. You

01:14:40.340 do need a woman in your body. You do, you do. You totally do. Impose restraint upon you. You totally

01:14:43.560 do. My wife was like kind of rushing me out. I'm like, but wait, there's like, and you could buy

01:14:49.120 like housewares there. Oh, I do 100%. So, and then I would get distracted. Mesquite, barbecue, charcoal.

01:14:55.180 I mean, it's just. And I had my dog in the car with me. We were traveling and, uh, we just,

01:14:58.700 this past week or so. And, uh, we were, we were going to, you know, when you have a dog in the

01:15:02.820 car, you put a water bowl, usually like outside the vehicle, like on the ground and let the dog

01:15:06.200 drink. And, uh, I didn't need to, cause Bucky's had a water fountain for dogs. Like they had a

01:15:11.040 regular water fountain and right on the ground, they had a little unit for dogs. So you could just

01:15:14.900 get the water fountain going and the dog can drink right from there. I was like. So that's the,

01:15:19.040 okay. Bucky's is the kind of capitalism we were promised. Yeah. And BlackRock is the kind that we got.

01:15:25.260 Right. And I feel, let's get, let's get more Bucky's, less BlackRock. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

01:15:31.800 Someplace that you enjoy going that doesn't sap your soul when you're there. That is interested

01:15:36.420 in what you want is trying to serve you in some way. Yeah. You know, is not like buying every house

01:15:42.080 on your street and turning them into rentals or like really wrecking your life. Well, they have a

01:15:47.600 Chick-fil-A style enthusiasm. Yes. So when you walk in, they say hello and they like. But wasn't that the

01:15:52.660 whole point of market capitalism? It was going to serve what people wanted. It was going to respond

01:15:56.780 to the needs and desires of the population. Yeah. Not redefine them. And actually what you,

01:16:01.880 you don't want grandchildren. You want a trans kid. Yeah. Like, I don't know how we got there.

01:16:10.520 You don't, no, you don't, you don't want that fence. What you want is density in your neighborhood.

01:16:17.000 You want public housing on your street. You want that. And if you don't want that, you're a racist.

01:16:20.880 Right. Right. Like that's actually what we got. Yeah. Yeah. We got gay race communism,

01:16:26.620 but it was supposed to be Buc-ee's with like super clean bathrooms and dog water fountains and

01:16:31.580 like massive malted milk ball supplies and like every kind of dip. Not just, you know,

01:16:40.600 Skoll and Copenhagen, but like getting into the serious esoteric chewing. That's right.

01:16:46.980 A chewing tobacco for every man. Yeah. With no lecturing about it either.

01:16:50.300 No, not at all. Yeah. I'd like the kiwi fruit. Yeah. Okay. Coming right up, sir.

01:16:56.520 That's awesome. That is awesome. And, and no, no judgment. I mean, yeah, it's, I don't know. I mean,

01:17:02.140 you talk about this a lot, but I just spent the last almost two weeks driving through most of East

01:17:07.700 coast America. I was all the way up from, from Maine to Florida back and forth. Did you really?

01:17:12.240 Yeah. And what did you think? I, I felt sadness for a lot of what I saw for, well, actually I'm,

01:17:20.660 I love the country. So I found so much of it to be beautiful.

01:17:23.740 And you grew up, your dad was in Marine Crofts or you grew up everywhere.

01:17:27.520 Yeah. Most of the East coast. Hawaii was our one detour away from that. Um, but almost the East

01:17:32.420 coast my entire life. And, um, but the country is beautiful. I love driving through it. I love

01:17:38.580 seeing how much, you know, so much land and there's so much to drive through and, um, really

01:17:43.560 neat and, and, and cool people. Uh, but then like you see so many communities where things are like

01:17:49.180 completely falling apart completely. And.

01:17:52.560 What were the signs of that?

01:17:54.720 Like all of the elements get through your home. You know, the, the roofs are falling apart.

01:18:00.260 You know, the water clearly must pour in every time it rains.

01:18:04.600 Seriously.

01:18:05.340 Yeah. Um, and.

01:18:07.880 Oh, so it's not, it's not just you like saw junkies at a gas station. It's like you saw people

01:18:12.240 with holes in their roofs.

01:18:13.880 Yeah. Yeah. All over the place.

01:18:15.820 Like pot, like actual poverty. If there's a hole in your roof, you're impoverished.

01:18:19.500 Yeah.

01:18:19.800 We can say that.

01:18:20.340 If your house is leaning over.

01:18:22.580 You know, you've got some, you got a real issue. Like you live in a death trap. So,

01:18:27.480 um, yeah, there's a lot of that out there. And should you, if you.

01:18:32.080 And I saw, by the way, in a lot of those yards, I saw Trump flex.

01:18:35.200 This is a political measure.

01:18:36.580 So we're paying for the pensions that were guaranteed retirement of bureaucrats in the

01:18:43.640 Ukraine who work for the corrupt government of Ukraine run by the anti-American, anti-Christian

01:18:49.160 Zelensky. We're paying their retirement.

01:18:51.320 We're paying the civil servants of Ukraine.

01:18:53.880 The whole government.

01:18:54.720 Yeah.

01:18:54.840 Everybody.

01:18:55.520 But we're paying for businesses in Ukraine to stay open.

01:18:58.580 Really?

01:18:59.320 Yeah. I'm almost, I, I, I gotta go back to my notes, but I had a, um, I had a piece a

01:19:04.320 while ago about this and I keep notes every day for my radio show. And I remember I shared

01:19:07.920 this on the air that we were paying, I think subsidies to keep small businesses open in

01:19:12.000 Ukraine. So yeah, we're paying for everything.

01:19:13.880 Yeah. It's so grotesque. It's hard to metabolize it, but you drove through our own country in

01:19:20.280 the last two weeks and you see people who don't have patched roofs.

01:19:24.860 Yeah. Yeah. And so like the country's not doing well is a, is a, an understatement.

01:19:32.780 Um, and there's lots of people who are suffering and that's why, you know, we kind of glanced

01:19:37.020 off of the economic discussion earlier, but I really think it matters that we are at a

01:19:41.400 point right now where, where the country is at over a trillion dollars in credit card

01:19:44.500 debt. This is, this is a record and we've never had this much credit card debt in our

01:19:48.900 nation's history. And credit card debt is totally destructive. Um, you're looking at,

01:19:54.380 you know, 16, 18, 20, 22, 25% rates.

01:19:57.440 Yeah. Close to 30.

01:19:58.360 Yeah. On, on these. And, um, that means, you know, people are being destroyed and they

01:20:04.400 can't make ends meet. The unemployment numbers are all a scam with that.

01:20:07.460 Wait, can I just ask like, we, we used to put people in prison back when the mafia was

01:20:12.360 offering loans at lower interest rates than those.

01:20:14.340 Yeah. Ursary.

01:20:15.280 Yeah. That the, yeah. Usury and loan sharking, we called it.

01:20:19.260 Yeah.

01:20:19.720 And all these sort of nice Italian guys wound up in jail.

01:20:23.640 Yeah. But it's cool when the credit card companies do that. How does that work?

01:20:29.120 Uh, Joe Biden.

01:20:30.060 Yeah, you're right.

01:20:30.960 The answer, Joe Biden, the Senator from Delaware making that happen.

01:20:33.940 Yeah. Um, that, that's how that works. Uh, but people are in massive, massive debt and

01:20:39.680 the unemployment numbers are a scam because, um, really what they represent is that there

01:20:43.320 are people working multiple part-time jobs to make ends meet. That's what that means.

01:20:47.200 So all this stuff about like, oh, unemployment is slow. No, it's not. People are working multiple

01:20:50.800 jobs in order to pay for just how expensive their lives have been.

01:20:54.940 And all the employment gains have been among immigrants. All of them.

01:20:57.680 Yep.

01:20:58.220 Zero, net, I mean, net, zero gains among native-born Americans.

01:21:02.360 Yeah, native-born Americans losing jobs.

01:21:04.100 Yep.

01:21:04.820 Immigrants, foreign-born workers gaining all. So it's, uh, you know, and my cousin E.J.

01:21:09.960 Antony is, I think, the single best economist on this subject.

01:21:13.040 Yes.

01:21:13.320 And he's just been amazing on it. And, and, uh, he's not. All of the available evidence

01:21:17.720 demonstrates he's right. And no American needs a government report to tell them that they're

01:21:21.320 miserable, by the way. I love that the media sort of waits for unemployment reports to tell,

01:21:24.700 like Don Lemon, like telling you, you shouldn't be miserable. No, the data says not that you're

01:21:28.460 not miserable. You're fine. Like what? Those, all of that government stuff is one cooked and

01:21:33.560 two, a trailing indicator of what's actually happening.

01:21:35.540 Um, but a drive from, where did you go? Like you went from where to where in the United States?

01:21:41.700 I was, so I was, uh, in, from Greenville, Maine was as far north as I was.

01:21:46.600 Great place.

01:21:47.220 All the way to Southwest Florida.

01:21:49.940 Wow.

01:21:50.440 Yeah. And so I got to see a bunch of places. I was in, um, that was in the Atlanta area.

01:21:55.400 I went to Jackson.

01:21:56.060 And you drove that whole way.

01:21:57.700 I flew some of it at the beginning and then I drove most of it. I drove, uh, in order to get

01:22:02.240 to Maine. I flew into Boston. I drove the four and a half hours, whatever it is to Greenville.

01:22:07.640 Uh, I was in Atlanta. I was driving in the Atlanta suburbs. I went to, um, Southwest Florida,

01:22:15.100 drove all the way up, you know, past Tampa, went to Jacksonville, Florida, drove from there,

01:22:19.740 went to coastal North Carolina, drove from there, uh, back to Washington DC. And I, I flew to be here

01:22:25.320 with you. And, um, so get to see a lot of places. And, uh, like I said, it's a beautiful country,

01:22:31.360 but it's disturbing how much of it is in disrepair. And like, you just think to yourself,

01:22:38.700 you, you, it, there's a part of you that's like, I don't know what you could possibly do

01:22:42.060 to, to get things back on track.

01:22:46.420 I was, I don't fly very much at all. I try not to travel at all. Uh, but I've taken a couple

01:22:54.340 flights recently, commercial flights and I'm shocked by the airports and, um, I'm shocked

01:23:02.460 by how disorganized they are, the TSA screening. I don't remember it being that bad. I've taken

01:23:08.520 about four years off from really flying that much. And, and then I thought to myself, wow,

01:23:14.060 I didn't know how degrading and stupid this was. I'd forgotten how degrading and stupid

01:23:19.840 it was. And then I thought, you know, the people making decisions about the way this

01:23:24.280 country is run. Like they don't have any contact with us. There's no, there's no donor to either

01:23:28.500 party who flies commercial. Like nobody flies commercial with money in this country. It's

01:23:33.040 crazy. I grew up in a rich area and world of rich people. Everyone flew commercial. Nobody

01:23:38.120 had a plane. Nobody. Now everybody flies private. It's crazy. And one of the effects of that is

01:23:44.640 people who are making these decisions were paying for these politicians. They just don't

01:23:49.820 know. They don't see it at all. And they definitely don't drive, you know, from Tampa to coastal North

01:23:55.280 Carolina and then DC. They just don't. Yeah. Do you think that has some, some effect?

01:23:59.040 That has a huge bearing. I mean, look, TSA conditions the rest of us to be compliant.

01:24:03.780 I mean, that's like, so if that's not your experience, you kind of feel like you're in

01:24:07.980 What is the facial that you stare into a camera? This happened to me yesterday. I had to fly

01:24:13.040 yesterday or two days ago. And they're like, will you look into there? I was like, no, thank

01:24:17.000 you. Yeah. But you don't have to. Like, what is that? I'm sorry. I know I'm showing how out of

01:24:22.720 touch I am. I just don't travel very much. It's just security theater. And like, you know,

01:24:25.860 what is, first of all, what is the ID checker assessing? What are they doing? Like a compelling

01:24:29.960 background check on you or something that, you know, what's your history of terrorism? I mean,

01:24:34.160 the whole thing is really stupid and degrading and super annoying. Like, why am I standing in line?

01:24:39.400 It's all 9-11.

01:24:40.360 To get on a flight.

01:24:41.300 It was all 9-11. George W. Bush created all of this right after 9-11. And we had to,

01:24:45.180 because there was an imminent threat and we were under attack by terrorists. And then you fast

01:24:49.640 forward 23 years later and the Taliban still run Afghanistan. They're way better armed with our

01:24:55.220 money and their infrastructure is much better because we built it and they're still in charge.

01:25:00.000 And we're left in this decaying country with fewer civil liberties having to be humiliated at the

01:25:05.280 freaking airport. Like, why shouldn't we see all the 9-11 documents? Like, why, you know,

01:25:13.000 if anything justifies another January 6th, which is to say people just like moving up to the Capitol

01:25:18.120 and demanding something, why wouldn't it be seeing those documents? Yeah. That event changed this

01:25:23.520 country profoundly and forever. Yes. We're its citizens. We pay for it. It's being done in our

01:25:28.000 name. And we can't know what exactly happened because why? And it's changed in really stupid,

01:25:33.680 tyrannical, and official ways. But predictable ways. So like, like TSA doesn't catch anything,

01:25:38.160 right? So they do their annual screenings where they like practice, like, will you catch the

01:25:41.640 weapons that we put through? They put actual weapons through the x-ray machines and the TSA

01:25:46.280 agents don't catch them. They have a, their fail rate is astronomical. Really? Yeah. So

01:25:51.180 they're not actually even catching the things that they're tested on. And we're all subjected to do

01:25:56.800 this as if it's keeping us safe, which of course it isn't. Why are we doing this? Like I would settle

01:26:01.620 for, if you want to make one modification, locks on the cockpit door. Totally fine. I'm good with that.

01:26:07.080 Beyond that, why are we doing the rest of this? I'm willing to take the risk.

01:26:09.920 I am. I'd rather live in that world. It's a happier world. It's more spiritually compelling.

01:26:17.060 And it demonstrates, you know, like a cohesive society. You don't need that. And in fact,

01:26:22.000 the more they make the society more chaotic, the more they justify all of this, you know,

01:26:28.300 the more that they, they import incompatible cultures and, you know, make everyone live in

01:26:34.080 squalor. Like eventually they're, they're increasing social distrust so much that they're offering a

01:26:38.320 justification for the system that they built. That's right. It's, it's self licking ice cream

01:26:43.180 cone. Yeah. Um, what happens at the democratic national convention this week? Well, I think it's

01:26:50.640 going to be a big demonstration. If you're clear thinking about this, if you stare at it and you're

01:26:55.800 just like objective, what you're going to witness is chaos. You're witnessing, first of all, why are they

01:27:02.340 doing it in Chicago? And like, what world do you appeal to the broad American middle for, by having

01:27:09.360 a Democrat convention in Chicago, Illinois? Because none of us can ever during the course of our

01:27:14.560 lifetimes escape the year 1968. Everything is in reference to that year. Yeah. And so I just,

01:27:22.680 why not? I mean, they should have another march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge too. I mean,

01:27:26.500 everything is like, everything is a replay of that period. It's weird. Yeah. And so now Kamala Harris

01:27:32.820 is the nominee. Amazingly, by the way, this whole convention's fake because she was made the nominee

01:27:38.480 weeks ago in secret in an online vote. So this whole thing is like a scam. Everything about it

01:27:46.000 is a facade. Even the votes are fake because the votes were taken weeks ago. Yes. All to foreclose on

01:27:51.240 the obvious chaos that's going to happen anyway. We're already seeing it. That's right. I mean,

01:27:54.820 like, and this is, you know, God, I want Republicans to be so much better than they are.

01:28:00.380 But insofar as they exist now, the way they do, Milwaukee was like placid. Yeah. It was peaceful.

01:28:07.440 It was orderly. Yeah. It was compelling. It was great. Great speakers. I mean, you were there. You

01:28:11.580 saw it. You had better billing than Joe Biden does. I didn't think that, um, I wasn't planning to go

01:28:17.260 actually at all. I didn't want to go. I've been to every convention since 96. I didn't want to go to

01:28:23.460 any more conventions. They asked me to speak. I wasn't going to do it. Then I was like, I should

01:28:27.300 do that and make myself do it. I loved it. I had like the best time ever. Yeah. Why?

01:28:33.640 Because I liked the vibe. I liked the people. I mean, obviously I've been around it my whole

01:28:38.480 life. So I saw, you know, everyone I've ever met was there, but also I just, I thought it

01:28:41.840 was a happy, happy, happy time. Um, and I think it really, Trump survived getting shot in

01:28:49.920 the face and that has motivating. Yeah. I mean, that just changed everything. I, I know

01:28:56.260 it feels like that was 40 years ago, but it was last month, uh, that that happened. It

01:29:03.900 was, it was just, it was happy. Anyway, it was a great time. I thought.

01:29:07.900 So they always tell you it's the most important election of your lifetime, but of course this

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01:30:27.640 After Trump got shot, I realized I liked him more. Yep. And my views about him became less

01:30:33.800 complex. I agree. Did you have the same sense? Like, like, in other words, like I always try

01:30:39.040 and maintain some objective distance. Like, this is, I don't like about this guy. I wish he would

01:30:42.680 do this differently. I wish he didn't do that. I wish he hired better people, whatever, whatever

01:30:45.600 criticism you want to level against him. And, and by the way, you should, as you're right as an

01:30:49.720 American to do that because the end goal should be to make him better. And Trump is the rare

01:30:53.640 politician who actually does listen to people no matter their station in life, no matter where they

01:30:57.300 come from. He's actually interested in what you think. So that's a good sign. He'll, he'll actually

01:31:01.020 change, uh, when given advice, but my views about him became less complex after that. I was like,

01:31:08.080 I really liked this guy legitimately. I agree. Because what he displayed was unusual and aspirational.

01:31:17.800 Did you feel like that? I felt that way really strongly. I, I hate complaining. I don't think men

01:31:23.460 should complain. I really mean that. Um, it's one of my core beliefs. It's how I was raised and I

01:31:27.780 will never shake that belief, that conviction that, you know, stop complaining. Like, what did

01:31:33.700 you think this was? And I will never not admire physical courage. I, I just admire that. And, um,

01:31:41.280 I want to have it myself. I don't know if I do. I haven't been tested very often in my life, but I

01:31:45.760 would like to think that if I was ever shot in the way that Trump was, that I would behave as

01:31:51.420 manfully as he did. I don't know that I would. Um, you, you can't know, but he did, he was tested

01:31:59.000 in a way that was very meaningful to me, leaving aside the politics, but like all of a sudden you're

01:32:03.860 talking and bang, you get hit with something. It's clearly a bullet. You don't know if you're dead

01:32:09.560 or not. Yes. And, and then you stand up and yeah, I just, that that's the acid test for me because

01:32:18.100 it really matters what you're like as a person. It matters to me. I'm not a Democrat. I don't

01:32:23.220 care about your stupid party. And it's the point of the exercise is not to huddle together for

01:32:28.800 increased power because I don't feel powerless as a person. Right. I have a family. I don't need a

01:32:34.720 party to make me feel whole unlike liberals. And, um, so what really matters to me is what you're like.

01:32:41.540 And do you have virtue and you know, Trump is a mixed bag on that question, but part of virtue is

01:32:49.120 bravery. It's a big part of virtue. Actually, it turns out much bigger than I understood as a

01:32:53.940 younger man. And he's brave, like actually brave, not fake brave. Oh, he's so brave. Oh,

01:33:00.180 they're so courageous. Kamala is so courageous. She's a coward. She's terrified. She's clearly

01:33:05.440 terrified. Yeah. And he's not. And that like, okay, I'm voting for the guy who's brave over

01:33:11.960 the coward. Yeah. And, and on Trump being a mixed bag in terms of like virtue and things,

01:33:16.560 I always remember. Let me just say, I'm a mixed bag on virtue. We all are. Right. So I thought,

01:33:21.600 okay. In fact, that's a Christian admission and, and. Well, it's a true admission. Here's the thing.

01:33:25.820 I, uh, I always think about, um, my dad who you, you mentioned is a Marine Corps officer. And at one

01:33:31.480 point he worked very closely as you do with the chaplain in his unit, a guy, great American who

01:33:37.380 has the same name twice. His name is Alan Allen, chaplain, Alan Allen. And, uh, he's a great human

01:33:42.780 being. And my dad was once complaining to him about, you know, various chaplains in the military and

01:33:48.320 how some of them are not so impressive and he wishes they were better and more Christian and

01:33:52.000 more and more virtue and that kind of thing. And, uh, he said, uh, he said, Vinny, I think they were

01:33:58.420 the same rank. He said, uh, Vinny, remember Jesus chose 12 centers to follow him.

01:34:04.080 That's right.

01:34:04.840 12 centers. And he was right about that. And I always keep that in mind. It's like, before I

01:34:10.760 like start judging other people for their moral feelings, like, like the people who were tasked

01:34:16.360 with advancing the greatest message humanity's ever known were failed, were, were, had immense

01:34:22.520 failings. Paul, Paul murdered Christians.

01:34:25.400 Yes. And, uh, Peter was a coward. Yeah. I mean, it's just denied Jesus three times as predicted

01:34:30.720 because he was too afraid. Yeah. I agree completely. The most important apostle.

01:34:36.720 So they choose, they just, you know, God chooses unusual vehicles.

01:34:39.420 I think, I think that's right. And I, I just, in a, in a time where, you know, reality itself is

01:34:46.960 hard to identify or even define, you know, in a digital world, in an AI world,

01:34:55.400 it's hard to know what is real. Everyone is struggling with this. One thing that is absolutely

01:34:59.860 real is that when you're shot in the face unexpectedly.

01:35:03.300 Yeah.

01:35:04.060 Um, we can see something deep about who you are. And we saw Trump live on camera. We saw something

01:35:11.500 about him that was just remarkable, was absolutely remarkable.

01:35:14.580 It was animal. It was like in a good way. It was, it was just like, he just, it was great. It was

01:35:19.240 totally great.

01:35:19.740 And I must say, I talked to him that night and, um, the night he was shot that Saturday

01:35:24.060 night, maybe, I think. And, uh, I was in Maine, but I talked to him and he didn't, I mean,

01:35:29.980 he didn't mention anything about himself. That's just a fact. I mean, look, I'm not flacking for

01:35:35.380 Trump, but this is just a fact. It was like, did you see the crowd? They were so brave.

01:35:41.980 They didn't run. That's the first thing he said. I was like, wow.

01:35:46.680 Yeah. They also, they also saved his life because the people who were outside the perimeter who

01:35:52.120 began shouting up about Thomas Crooks being on the roof, the Trump supporters, they were the only

01:35:57.020 ones who were raising the loud alarm about what was happening. And they were the predicate to that

01:36:01.440 cop getting his head over the roof and scaring Thomas Crooks into taking action at that moment.

01:36:07.160 Well, it's so perfect though. It's like only the Trump voters are willing to notice the obvious.

01:36:11.200 Yes. They haven't been trained to deny what their senses perceive.

01:36:14.560 No. In fact, their senses are elevated to the peril. And they can, they can smell it. And so it's not

01:36:25.620 just some looky-loo who's up on the roof, just trying to see what's going on on the stage.

01:36:30.180 They're worried about Trump's safety and they're yelling out, he's on the roof. He's on the roof

01:36:34.780 officer. They're screaming. They saved Trump's life. Every element of that. I know we keep returning

01:36:40.560 to this, but it's such an amazing moment in history.

01:36:42.040 It is amazing.

01:36:43.260 Every element of it conspired to save him. Every element of it. From the people shouting,

01:36:49.380 the cop getting his head above the roof, the frenzied rush to take the shot by Thomas Crooks

01:36:54.260 as a result, Trump's head turned towards a chart, saying moments before, take me off teleprompter,

01:36:59.640 I don't even care, I'm going to do the chart. And just all of those things, they conspired in a way

01:37:04.900 that can only be divine. That can only be the product of divine intervention. And, and I saw

01:37:11.140 that and it's one, so I had simpler views about Trump after that. And I had more grateful views

01:37:15.700 about God after that.

01:37:16.680 I agree with both those things. And his, I, you know, I would, I talk about myself way too much

01:37:22.880 as it is, but I try not to, because I think it's such an unattractive, the most unattractive quality

01:37:27.680 in a man. But I think if I was shot, like he was shot, I'd be like talking about myself. Like,

01:37:34.540 oh, I can't believe I got shot. And Trump, who's like famously, everyone's like, Trump's such a

01:37:39.320 narcissist. He didn't, well, at least when I talked to him, he didn't mention himself. It was only about

01:37:43.780 the audience.

01:37:44.500 Yeah. Wow.

01:37:45.260 And there's no one else listening to this conversation. Well, other than obviously NSA's

01:37:48.700 listening to it.

01:37:49.420 Besides them.

01:37:49.980 Yeah.

01:37:50.320 Besides criminals. But anyway, but he's not doing it for an audience. Just me. No expectation. I'll repeat

01:37:57.240 it. You know what I mean? And he didn't mention himself. It's only about the other people. And I

01:38:01.160 thought, man, I just thought it was so revealing. It was, it was in a way that's not fakeable.

01:38:06.880 You know, AI didn't do that.

01:38:08.120 Yeah. It's cool. And then you talked about that at the convention.

01:38:11.080 I did.

01:38:11.760 Which was cool. Yeah. I believe those were the, that was the substance of your remarks talking about

01:38:15.280 what he was like. Oh, like, I guess I ad lib that speech. So I actually have no memory.

01:38:22.060 You don't have any memory. I was, so, so I guess it renders moot the following question. I, I wonder,

01:38:26.220 is there any point, do you ever give a speech where you feel the gravity of it? Or are you at

01:38:29.620 the point where you're so used to giving speeches that even speaking on the Republican convention

01:38:35.100 stage with every network in the United States concentrated on your remarks? None of that?

01:38:39.560 Oh, I felt the gravity of it. Well, in the sense that they told me to, to write a speech. I mean,

01:38:44.500 I'm a writer. I can, I've certainly written a lot. Um, but I don't write with speeches. The one

01:38:49.320 thing I just don't write speeches. I never have one time in my life, but I felt like, well,

01:38:54.020 I want to be the obedient little bitch or whatever. I want to do what I'm told, I guess.

01:38:59.080 I don't know. I knew you weren't going to write it. I knew it. I actually, I knew it. In fact,

01:39:03.060 I told, as soon as I heard that you were given a dress, I said, he's not going to write it.

01:39:06.160 He's just going to do it. Well, I, I made a good faith effort and I, um, there was no sauna at my

01:39:11.880 hotel. So I said, I can't write obviously without my sauna, but I did actually spend like eight hours

01:39:17.520 fretting about it and trying to write it on my iPhone. And then I was like, I can't write a speech

01:39:22.620 for myself. I could write a speech for someone else, but I got to say, whatever, I'm not going

01:39:27.540 to. So I didn't, I guess, I know you, I know you're a good writer, obviously like your career,

01:39:31.320 whole career has been writing. Even when you were on television, it would, I would laugh at people

01:39:34.320 and be like, I wish Chuck would get back to writing. I'm like, I don't think you're familiar with what

01:39:37.540 he's doing on a daily basis, literally writing all the time. I just knew that you wouldn't do it

01:39:42.540 because it's just, I don't know, maybe it's your ego. Like you're going to give this speech off

01:39:47.120 teleprompter and you're just going to say what's on your mind. And I knew kind of reflexively,

01:39:50.560 there's no, this is the one venue. It's just, honestly, I kind of thought like,

01:39:56.640 you're just like, no, screw you. I'm not doing a speech. I'm not writing a speech.

01:39:59.780 Well, ultimately I said that in a much more polite way to the, to the, all the staff at the, you know,

01:40:06.080 the really nice people who are, you know, doing the run through and whatever. And I was like,

01:40:10.800 I just can't do this. No, I don't like to write speeches because then you don't learn anything.

01:40:15.400 There's something about speaking in conversation or, I don't, I really believe that words have,

01:40:24.580 you know, elucidated words, spoken words have, have like spiritual power. In the beginning was

01:40:31.900 the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Like, what does that even mean? I'm not

01:40:35.240 sure what it means. I mean, the word I guess is Jesus, but that's beginning of John. But there's

01:40:40.280 something about we tell the truth. We don't just know the truth or believe the truth. We tell the truth.

01:40:45.040 There's something about using the one thing that we have that the rest of the animal kingdom

01:40:50.140 doesn't have, which is the power of speech that makes things real and that gives them

01:40:55.400 power. Anyway, I find that when I talk, or I think everyone finds this, if you think about

01:41:00.920 it, that saying something out loud allows you to understand things like you learn. In other

01:41:07.860 words, we think of language as something that we use to inform or educate others. I'm going

01:41:13.200 to tell you something. I do it for a living. Here are my views. But what we miss is that

01:41:18.380 we're being educated too. Like we're learning. The speaker is learning as he speaks.

01:41:23.560 Well, do you ever experience this?

01:41:25.180 Words have immense power, for sure. Words are so, for the reasons you just like that.

01:41:29.540 But they change the speaker, not just the listener.

01:41:31.580 And they, yeah. And especially like, you know, when you repeat something over and over,

01:41:36.560 it establishes a groove in your mind so that you kind of can draw upon it.

01:41:39.540 That's right. Exactly right.

01:41:40.440 To use it again. So speaking is very helpful in that way. You know, repetition is a good

01:41:45.500 way to learn anything. But if you're deprived of the tools, it's disorienting. And it leads

01:41:51.360 you-

01:41:51.540 What does that mean?

01:41:52.060 Meaning, like the left's current program, which has been a program for a while that many

01:41:57.700 of us were late to detect-

01:41:59.060 Shut up racist.

01:41:59.720 Was to change language in such a way.

01:42:02.340 Yeah.

01:42:02.720 Shut up racist is a perfect example. To change language in such a way that you can't even think

01:42:07.340 clearly about what's going on. That reality is so distorted by your lack of vocabulary

01:42:12.140 that, or by your distorted vocabulary, that you're incapable of resolving the problem.

01:42:18.760 You can smell that there's a problem, but you don't actually know how to navigate out of it.

01:42:22.140 This is like gender affirming care is a perfect example of that. Gender affirming. First of all,

01:42:27.340 it's already a lie because it's establishing that your body is a mistake and that what is correct

01:42:35.360 is for you to mutilate it. Like, it's like, what?

01:42:39.000 We're just affirming something that preexisted in this decision.

01:42:41.960 And you scare people into compliance and then they begin to lose the vocabulary necessary to

01:42:46.600 untangle it. Right?

01:42:48.440 Orwell wrote about this at length.

01:42:49.880 Yes, totally. And he was the best at writing about it. And that's why it matters so much,

01:42:56.020 because it's mind control.

01:42:57.160 Yes.

01:42:57.580 Words are mind control.

01:42:58.440 A hundred percent.

01:42:59.560 And the ability to speak to an audience and then to, first of all, learn for yourself,

01:43:05.040 but also to detect what they're actually picking up.

01:43:07.940 Yes.

01:43:08.440 Is a skill that you have for sure. And it's made you successful. It's a skill that Kamala Harris

01:43:14.060 does not have. It's that, that's the skill she doesn't have. She doesn't have that skill. She

01:43:18.180 can't do it. She can't talk to an audience and see that they're receiving her. She doesn't know

01:43:22.240 what they're receiving. She can't read their body language. She doesn't know like how to change

01:43:26.980 her tone. Have you ever noticed she tells these jokes, nobody laughs, and then she cackles to

01:43:29.680 herself?

01:43:30.180 Yes.

01:43:30.460 It's because she isn't able to connect on a human level because she's not all that interested in

01:43:35.640 what they're saying through their expressions, through their reactions.

01:43:38.480 Well, she's certainly missing out on one of life's greatest and richest experiences, which is to

01:43:43.160 feel the vibe of other people.

01:43:45.380 Yeah.

01:43:45.700 I mean, that's kind of the only reason to be alive, really. And it's like the most beautiful,

01:43:51.960 great, fun thing ever. And speaking in public is the easiest thing you could ever do. You

01:43:58.820 just can't worry about it. And as long as you don't worry about it, like everyone would

01:44:02.120 be great at it actually, including Kamala Harris. And when I don't know her, I've never even

01:44:06.600 met her. I have relatives who know her actually. Um, you know, whenever they say she's kind of

01:44:12.220 amusing, they don't hate her.

01:44:13.500 Yeah.

01:44:14.440 But she's obviously terrified. She's obviously afraid. I look at her, I'm like, Ooh, you're

01:44:19.800 afraid. She's scared to death. She's scared to death. That's the first thing I register

01:44:23.600 when I see her.

01:44:24.460 Yeah.

01:44:25.020 That woman is afraid because she knows that she's fraudulent and-

01:44:27.820 Like a caged animal that will hurt someone.

01:44:30.220 She's, she's-

01:44:30.960 Well, she's a fascist.

01:44:31.940 Yeah.

01:44:32.080 No doubt. No one ever mentions that. Like she's, like Biden just had, you know, 50 years

01:44:38.520 of life in Washington, kind of the precedent of how things are done in a restrained republic

01:44:45.020 kind of seeped into him. She's coming from a different world. She's coming from California

01:44:49.720 which is post-political. It's a one-party state and she has no problem using force at

01:44:55.640 all. And, uh, and all the fascists around her are the same. So like, no, but, but I

01:45:00.020 just feel, I do feel sorry for Kamala Harris. Again, I don't know where I'm just making these

01:45:03.460 judgments on the basis of watching her, but I feel like this is someone who can't admit

01:45:08.120 who she really is, what she really thinks is, um, and is really, really afraid. And you

01:45:13.960 feel sorry for people like that.

01:45:15.180 Yes. Which is why I loved Trump at the National Association for Black Journalists.

01:45:20.900 When he went-

01:45:22.160 I don't think you're allowed to love that.

01:45:23.380 Oh, I loved it.

01:45:23.900 You're supposed to disapprove.

01:45:24.460 I adored it. And, and here's why.

01:45:26.700 Tell me.

01:45:27.440 So think about the weeks leading up to that.

01:45:29.640 Yeah.

01:45:29.760 The weeks leading up to it put the Trump campaign on its heels because one, the narrative was

01:45:34.780 so disrupted by the fact that they just replaced Joe with Kamala.

01:45:37.540 Yeah.

01:45:37.720 And then the media went all in on selling her. It was like, she's so great. She's wonderful.

01:45:42.020 It's all about joy, Vince.

01:45:43.380 And then they adopted this line of attack that J.D. Vance and Donald Trump are weird.

01:45:48.580 Remember this?

01:45:49.680 Very well.

01:45:50.540 Detecting this.

01:45:50.800 Yeah.

01:45:51.120 Okay. So they were like, weird. Now I love laughing that off because of how absurd the

01:45:56.500 use of that word-

01:45:57.440 Yeah.

01:45:57.880 Coming from those people is.

01:45:59.540 The abortion worshipers are telling you J.D. Vance is weird.

01:46:01.780 Yeah. The men in dresses crew. Like, like, oh yeah, it's so weird. Uh, yeah. Okay. Okay.

01:46:06.880 Here's our tranny admiral. Not weird.

01:46:09.080 But you have to, you have to be honest enough to admit it's an effective line of attack.

01:46:14.520 Yeah.

01:46:14.980 Insofar as it's the kind of thing that it's like the language of the teenage girl. It's

01:46:20.240 like, it doesn't require a deep assessment of what's going on. You use, you use weird.

01:46:25.400 It's a way to make somebody toxic in, uh, and it's, it's effective. It's an effective

01:46:30.720 weapon. So there's going to be a category of voter that definitely cares a lot about the policies,

01:46:36.300 and specifically the ways in which they affect them and their, their bottom line. But there

01:46:40.660 are also broad categories of voters who really do kind of ride the vibes of an election. Who

01:46:44.580 is this person? And, and I don't mean vote switchers. I mean, whether or not they'll show

01:46:47.980 up to the polls at all, you know? And so, okay, weird's one line of attack. What's the

01:46:52.820 line of attack on Kamala? She's a phony. She's fraudulent. She's a fake. Now, if Trump gets

01:46:59.460 up on a stage and he goes, Kamala Harris is a phony. Does CNN cover that? Does the New York

01:47:05.600 Times put it on A1? Does, you know, Washington Post, any of these news outlets? No. But

01:47:10.720 if Trump goes on stage, he goes, she's black. It's like five minutes ago, she was Indian.

01:47:15.440 Now she's black. I don't know. I love them both, but somebody has got to answer that

01:47:19.000 question. Everyone went crazy and, and it was, it was perfect. And the reason it was

01:47:25.220 perfect was because it forced all of the places that hate Trump to carry his remarks. And

01:47:30.960 it fed an underlying, the subtext of that entire exchange is, Kamala Harris is a phony. And

01:47:36.640 it implants it right into the lifeblood of the, of the United States. Like people get

01:47:39.940 to see it no matter where you can see it. I wish they'd done that with Obama. He, I mean,

01:47:43.620 he's half white, raised by white people. He's more white than he is black. Yeah.

01:47:49.020 Culturally. And he is exactly one half white. Sure.

01:47:52.740 So why did Republicans not say our half white president or half black president? Like, why do

01:47:57.520 they have to be like the first black president and just buy into the lie? It's a lie. And

01:48:02.160 they had, it gave him moral power because it, you know, made him, it gave him claim to the

01:48:09.640 civil rights movement, which is like the one sort of holy story in American history. Yeah.

01:48:15.500 Supposedly. Self-a-lie, but whatever. Everyone's been taught that. And he got to lay claim to that.

01:48:20.880 And, but no one also had the balls to puncture it. And just like Kamala, his family didn't come

01:48:25.120 from, wasn't in the United States. Oh, I'm aware. The whole thing was fraudulent,

01:48:27.500 but, but just as a factual matter, as a genetic matter, I'm not attacking anybody. Obviously,

01:48:32.920 I'm just saying like, he's half white. And, but no one, that was considered so outrageous. Yeah.

01:48:40.420 That'd be like white lives matter or all lives matter. Another demonstrably factually true phrase

01:48:46.940 that became a criminal offense, literally a criminal offense. Like the FBI investigated people for

01:48:50.780 saying white lives matter. Yeah. But, and nobody pushed back. But, and these categories don't

01:48:54.960 exist for any practical sort of descriptive reason. They only exist for political power because like,

01:48:59.920 you know, if you call Elon Musk an African-American, like people are like,

01:49:03.940 they, that's like a total violation. You're not allowed to say that despite the fact that he,

01:49:07.060 but I have, or if like, you know, George Carlin once cited this, like if you come from Egypt,

01:49:11.280 right. You're technically, you're an African-American. Are we allowed to say that? If you're an

01:49:15.060 Egyptian, are you called somebody an African? No, not in American political discourse.

01:49:18.060 But what does it mean allowed? Why not just tell the truth? Like, why are we such cowards? If you

01:49:22.520 allow lies to go unchallenged, they harden and then they become, you know, the, they become the

01:49:29.680 instruments of torture that you'll suffer under. That's a fact. Yeah. So like, why are we playing

01:49:35.240 along with this? We shouldn't. What cowards are we? Yeah. I never called Obama. I was on TV every day,

01:49:40.360 the Obama administration. I never said our half white press, he's half black, which is a fact. Like I

01:49:45.200 didn't have the balls to say that. What's wrong with me? Yeah. And like, you like how like people

01:49:49.900 get mad if, if Trump refers to him as Barack Hussein Obama, he'll say Barack Hussein Obama,

01:49:54.240 which is actually his middle name. Yeah. And you're like, you can't, you can't, how racist is

01:49:58.920 he for saying that? Why am I playing by your rules anyway? Because somebody was named Saddam Hussein.

01:50:03.380 Now I can't say Barack Hussein Obama. Like what is, it actually matters though. If you,

01:50:07.760 if you decide that you're going to lie because someone is make quote making you like, whose fault

01:50:15.920 is that? It's yours. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of that going on, unfortunately. So I keep

01:50:20.880 interrupting you. What is going to be the theme of this convention? It starts today.

01:50:28.100 I mean, it's going to be, I mean, you'll, you'll see the chaos on the outside, but on the inside,

01:50:35.600 you're going to be served, um, an endless stream of lies about the current state of our country.

01:50:41.560 They'll tell you that the misery that exists within it is not actually happening, that people

01:50:45.800 are far happier, that, um, that things are fine. Also, you're going to get this weird.

01:50:51.680 So she's going to run as the incumbent basically.

01:50:53.300 They want everything. They want it both ways because they're going to lie to you about the

01:50:58.800 current state of affairs. And then they're going to tell you what her day one agenda is as if she

01:51:02.920 didn't have power to begin with. Right. So they're doing, and, and the Trump campaign has been great

01:51:07.540 on this. They said her day one was three and a half years ago. So let's stop pretending that it's

01:51:11.320 starting. So that's why, I mean, they could make her president. I mean, they could 25th amendment

01:51:15.480 Biden. I mean, they basically already have in effect, if not literally, but they could just make her

01:51:20.620 president. They probably by all rights should, because she does seem non-senile. Um, but they

01:51:27.840 won't because they don't want her to have to take responsibility for the current state of the

01:51:31.580 country. Is that, that's my guess. I don't know. Yeah. Or they're, or they're so wrapped up in the

01:51:37.800 idea that, oh, we shouldn't give it to her this way because we give it to her with the election is

01:51:41.080 more legitimate or something like they shouldn't, the woman shouldn't have to be made president by

01:51:45.580 virtue of the 25th amendment. The first woman president, they just, you know, we settled on her.

01:51:50.120 I don't know what their thinking is on that. Oh, are they doing the first woman thing?

01:51:53.540 They're doing the first everything. Really? Yeah, of course. Oh my goodness. They're

01:51:58.360 going to, that's going to be a big theme this week. First woman? The first woman president?

01:52:02.800 Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy that like, since we've already established that there's no definition of

01:52:08.380 woman, like why should I care? Tell me why I should care. 100%. You don't, I mean, there's no such thing

01:52:13.940 as a woman. So like, why is it meaningful that we have one as president? Yeah. And there's no

01:52:18.040 difference between a woman and a man, none. They can be Navy SEALs. So like, what, what's the mean,

01:52:25.200 what's the significance of this? There is none anymore. I mean, they've erased, there's the,

01:52:29.840 the attacks on women that have been led by Biden and Harris are, I think, I think are unprecedented

01:52:35.340 actually in American history. I mean, if this is another area where it's like, Republicans really

01:52:39.540 should sink their teeth into this for every, in every possible way. So stupid. But title nine?

01:52:44.160 Yeah. The fact that the Biden administration came along and said that women are not a real category

01:52:49.280 and that men can be in their locker rooms and take their sports teams and beyond and all of those

01:52:54.480 things. Why isn't there like a nonstop campaign against that atrocity? There should be like, why do

01:53:04.200 we have women's sports then? What's the point of that? Why do we have any separate category for women

01:53:08.480 to participate and succeed and on an equal playing field? We shouldn't under that notion. And so the

01:53:14.980 Biden administration is leaning on all out assault on the very existence of women. Right. And then of

01:53:20.460 course, once the credit for the first woman president, should that occur? So it's incoherent,

01:53:26.200 obviously. It's totally incoherent. It's got all the markers of Marxism as it presents itself

01:53:30.040 throughout history. Which is just deceptive to its core. It doesn't, it's shape-shifting and there

01:53:35.500 are no fixed meanings to anything. It's just, I need to be empowered. You need to obey. And that,

01:53:39.280 that those are the only immutable rules. Yep. Yep. I mean, it is very much like my body,

01:53:44.060 my choice here, take the COVID vax or I'll kill you. Yes. Wait, what? I thought it was my body,

01:53:49.300 my choice. No. Only when you're killing your kids, not when you're, I'm forcing some.

01:53:54.620 Yeah. It's every single, I mean, it's like. I almost called it poison, but I would be censored

01:53:59.020 by YouTube if I did that. Well, so I just want to be clear. I'm not calling any substance that was

01:54:03.800 federally mandated poison. Okay. Good. Thank you for that. And so, I mean, it's like guns too.

01:54:09.200 They're the same way on guns that, you know, you don't, you don't need them, but we do. They'll

01:54:14.500 protect us. It's all, it's all. Is she going to get elected? Kamala Harris? Yeah. I think it's

01:54:22.580 a lot closer than I want it to be. There are 30 states that are, can we fill with drop boxes?

01:54:27.520 That seems like a problem. And, you know, there've been some positive advances like banning

01:54:34.380 Zuckerberg's in 27 states. You saw like states like Georgia and Texas have passed real voter

01:54:39.660 integrity laws that have increased the quality of their election system. But then there are states

01:54:43.880 like Pennsylvania where things are still a little too chaotic, where you have these drop boxes across

01:54:48.040 the country, Wisconsin, of course. These are pivotal states. But that, like no state that has drop boxes

01:54:55.620 can be considered legitimate. How can I, how can I believe an election result in a state with drop

01:55:02.320 boxes? Right. Yeah. If, if, no matter what party you're a part of, if the election doesn't go your

01:55:05.940 way and your state's full of drop boxes, your suspicions are going to be sky high. So how is that

01:55:11.060 stabilizing for a Republican? So I had a conversation this morning, actually, with someone, a well-known

01:55:17.740 very knowledgeable person from Republican politics who said, you know, there are all these states

01:55:22.960 with drop boxes and I'm really concerned about this. And I said, well, what don't, isn't there an

01:55:26.860 RNC that like exists to deal with this? And this person said, well, the problem is that these drop

01:55:34.380 boxes are disproportionately in what he called urban areas. And no one at the RNC wants to be seen as

01:55:40.820 criticizing the way things are done in urban areas. And I thought, well, why is the RNC hiring

01:55:47.440 guilty white liberals? If, if you're a guilty white liberal, I'm not attacking you, you know,

01:55:52.880 I don't want to live near you or, or meet you, uh, obviously, but there's a political party for you.

01:55:58.500 Yeah. Like what are they doing at the RNC? Yeah. It's a good question. It is a good question.

01:56:04.160 I mean, it is completely critical that we get ahold of that. I mean, like, you know, you've got,

01:56:09.860 was it Michael Watley and Laura Trump are now running the RNC. They established this renewed

01:56:15.100 emphasis on voter integrity. Um, and all these, I think they've got all sorts of legal challenges

01:56:20.700 they've mounted across the country that's headed in the right direction. But if you are opting out

01:56:24.620 of dealing with election integrity in critical areas, because you're afraid you'll be seen as

01:56:28.460 racist for trying to protect the votes of the people who live there, you've lost the plot.

01:56:32.420 You've lost the plot because it turns out voter integrity laws. If we're talking about black voters

01:56:36.540 specifically are disproportionately beneficial to black voters. But what happened in Georgia

01:56:42.320 after they changed their election laws to make it so that you can no longer just do signature

01:56:47.980 matching on a, uh, a mail-in ballot, they said, you got to send in your, your driver's license

01:56:52.760 number with the ballot. Well, yeah. When they did that, black voter participation went up and fewer

01:56:58.720 black votes were rejected. Yeah. It's obvious. And it's, it's been, it's always obvious. In fact,

01:57:04.080 signature matching was working to the detriment of authentic black voters. They were having their

01:57:07.520 ballots thrown out because it turns out sometimes your signature doesn't match what you signed when you

01:57:11.020 were 18 years old. Like when you get older and you signed like some, and you get some idiot who's

01:57:14.740 looking at, not a handwriting specialist, just some random, you know, bureaucrat looking at two

01:57:19.340 ballots and the signature and be like, mm, throwing that out. Throwing it, what?

01:57:23.200 I think that the period where there's going to be this intense emphasis on black voters

01:57:27.620 is coming to an end because of immigration and native born black voters will become less important

01:57:37.560 to election outcomes. Dramatically less important starting after this election. And so that means

01:57:43.400 black political power, as we've thought about it for the last 60 years will be in rapid, rapid

01:57:49.220 decline. And it's just interesting. It's, it sort of reminds me of organized labor. You know,

01:57:54.200 I'm not against unions. I'm not against black voters. I'm not, I'm, I'm for all American voters,

01:57:57.780 but they got sold out by their leadership. For sure. Yeah. Like so completely. And I'm not sure

01:58:03.200 people really understand that. Like, I just, I just don't think it's going to matter too much

01:58:08.140 actually, because the demographics of the country have changed so much, uh, in the last 10 years

01:58:14.880 that like, do people get this? I hope so. I, there is, there's like some shifting. It looks

01:58:21.100 like among black men, which has been good. Uh, the left is very angry about that. And the more angry

01:58:25.480 they get about it, the more likely they're, they are to try and take it out. But increasingly it's

01:58:29.080 just symbolic though. I mean, if you have 10 million illegal aliens or 30 million illegal aliens that

01:58:35.200 we don't even know the number, but it's tens of millions and they're all going to vote, you know,

01:58:39.600 sooner rather than later, probably, but definitely at some point, no one's going to be deported.

01:58:43.680 Then like the whole civil rights movement, that whole mythology, it becomes sort of meaningless

01:58:47.960 because the democratic party will have political power without black voters. Like no matter what they

01:58:51.440 do, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And they, the whole, and then the whole history of that party has been

01:58:54.880 hurting black, black people, black Americans. It's disgraceful all the way

01:58:58.860 from, you know, we, you mentioned at the outset of the conversation, like the KKK and Margaret

01:59:02.680 Sanger and the targeting, the so-called Negro project. I mean, it has been a relentless assault

01:59:07.700 actually on black Americans, uh, which is a disgrace. And, uh, I hope, I just hope more and

01:59:13.420 more people can wake up to it, but while they still have political power to the extent that they do,

01:59:17.220 and it's being sold out now as you speak. Uh, and so that's crazy. That's crazy. And I don't,

01:59:22.820 yeah, I don't have a ton of friends who are, uh, black Democrats. Um, I know a lot of, and love a

01:59:30.020 lot of, you know, right-wing black people, but I have one friend who's a black Democrat, really good

01:59:35.460 guy. But I made this point to him a few years ago. I was like, it's kind of over for the political

01:59:41.260 power that you've been talking about your whole life because of immigration. Yeah. And, um, he had

01:59:47.580 honestly not really thought about it. And, uh, well now you're seeing it in Chicago. Now I'm

01:59:52.120 bragging, but I think he agrees with me now because it's just, it's just numbers. It's a

01:59:54.840 numbers. How many, how many angry town hall meetings have you seen in Chicago over this

01:59:58.400 issue? Yeah. A lot, a lot. Black residents of Chicago, they're going confronting, but the

02:00:03.380 alderman right in Chicago, confronting them and saying, what the hell? Why? So wait a second.

02:00:08.220 So foreigners, illegal foreigners are pouring into the country. They're coming to Chicago.

02:00:12.520 They're taking all of the public resources and we're being left in the slums. And how

02:00:17.520 many times this is going to happen before you wake up to it? Like, like when the riots

02:00:21.280 were happening, the George Floyd riots were occurring and Chicago became one of the latest

02:00:24.980 cities to be ransacked. The lady who looked like Beetlejuice who ran the city, she deployed

02:00:30.740 the national guard to the extent that a mayor is supposed to do that anyway, but they were,

02:00:33.920 she was given resources. She sent it to, what do they, what do they call that? The, the,

02:00:37.440 the million mile or something. The, uh, the really nice area of Chicago where all of her

02:00:42.500 donors live, like the richest area of Chicago. Meanwhile, the South side left defenseless.

02:00:47.240 People were getting murdered in the streets, losing their lives, places being wrecked because

02:00:52.320 she refused to protect the most vulnerable because she had no interest.

02:00:56.640 I saw this during Katrina in New Orleans. The French quarter was fine. All the cops were

02:01:00.000 in the French quarter. Lower ninth, nobody. I saw it. Um, yeah, no, of course it does sort

02:01:06.240 of raise the question. I mean, this is the purpose of ginning up racial hostility, obviously,

02:01:10.980 is to make people vote against their own interests, their demonstrable interests,

02:01:15.980 because they so, they so despise or they're so afraid of the other party coming to power on racial

02:01:22.680 grounds. Yeah. That's, that's what is actually happening. Sorry. It's, it's totally crazy.

02:01:28.280 So, um, Kamala's campaign is about what?

02:01:33.800 This week it's joy. It's joy. This is this weekend. That's, that's what they keep telling

02:01:38.520 everybody. What's, I could think of it being about a lot of different things. Um, but joy

02:01:43.400 is the most preposterous of all because she's so obviously joyous. She's kissing her husband

02:01:47.560 with a mask on. So this is the most joyless person I've seen lately. Well, this is, that's

02:01:54.720 consistent. The pitch is opposite of everything. But why that's like a deep, I've never really

02:01:59.240 figured it out. Like why should an effective lie is always like a few degrees off from center

02:02:05.340 from the truth. Right. Yeah. Isn't it? I mean, last week she was like, I'm for no tax on tips. Now

02:02:10.100 like she had the Trump policy. Yeah, I saw that now. Yeah. I'm for no tax on tips. She said,

02:02:15.640 okay, like what, where did that come from? Oh, I'm going to secure the border. What? Who are you?

02:02:20.280 Like, will you stop lying to us? But why not instead? Like, but that's not how normal people

02:02:26.240 lie. Normal people, like I catch you doing something wrong and you, you know, like it's

02:02:30.900 not as bad as it looks or, but you don't whip around and accuse me of doing the exact thing

02:02:36.560 that I caught you doing. Like, what is that? No, that you do in an abusive relationship.

02:02:42.500 Really? Yeah. In an abusive human relationship. I mean, this is kind of like the classic sort of

02:02:46.940 like cheating on your wife and trying to figure out a way to survive it. Yeah. You start blaming

02:02:51.940 her as the center. Right. So the, so this is the democratic party's relationship with Americans

02:02:57.800 is an abusive one. I saw that. I actually saw that once. I was actually, well, probably didn't

02:03:03.640 tell us. I was with somebody who I wasn't there for this, but he got caught cheating and I was like,

02:03:09.760 whoa, not a good person. And I said, what did you say? And he said, I screamed at her for spending

02:03:15.500 too much at Saks on our credit card. I was like, what? You get caught or she had evidence that he

02:03:22.600 was doing something wrong, which he was. Yeah. And you attack her. I thought that was the most

02:03:27.500 screwed up thing I'd ever seen, but that's a thing you're saying. Definitely. Which is why family

02:03:33.020 analogies are so perfect for all of this. It's like, like, what do you do? I know you've done

02:03:37.200 this for years, but like, what does it mean to run a healthy household? Like, do you lock your

02:03:41.940 doors at night? You know, how do you protect your family? You know, what does that look

02:03:45.600 like? What kind of example are you to your children? All of those things. The only things

02:03:49.420 that matter, you mean? Yeah. Yes. The Democrats are leading the most dysfunctional household

02:03:55.280 you've ever seen. Yeah. They're like abusing the children, attacking each other, all the sins

02:03:59.820 that they're committing, they're projecting onto all their other family members. Yes.

02:04:02.620 Yes. It's really degrading and, and total dysfunction. It's awful. And it's also why it's

02:04:09.020 godless. It's also why it's godless. Because you begin assuming this omnipotent power over

02:04:14.540 reality itself and begin telling everyone else that they're the problem and they're the sinners

02:04:18.800 and that they should respond to you. And it's, meanwhile, in the healthy household, what's

02:04:23.880 happening is there's a father who's demoing for his children what it looks like to have

02:04:29.860 a father's love. Yes.

02:04:31.280 And their children only know God through that lens. Yes.

02:04:34.340 They only can, that's, that's how you know. How do you, so we refer to God the father.

02:04:37.940 How do you even know how he functions as a father unless you have a human father as a

02:04:41.820 frame of reference? You don't. You don't understand what that looks like. If you have a dysfunctional

02:04:47.160 relationship with the men in your life, how are you ever going to get your head around

02:04:50.860 the idea that God the father is a loving father? You know what I mean? So like all of these

02:04:56.280 things, it's just-

02:04:57.100 I do know, I've never thought of it before, but this is a, yes, I know, of course I know

02:05:01.020 exactly what you mean.

02:05:01.620 It's why fathers are so important. Because like all of reality centers around what your impression

02:05:06.720 of what it means to have a good father is. That's, that's it. That's the whole ballgame.

02:05:11.620 So the left is leading the dysfunctional household where they're driving everybody to self-destruction

02:05:17.620 and it should be the obligation of normal people to counter that and to have a healthy household

02:05:23.700 and by extension, a healthy country.

02:05:25.240 That's so interesting. I, I have noticed the symptoms of what you're saying. And the main

02:05:32.760 one is the people they're attacking, you know, I don't have a PhD on America or whatever,

02:05:37.840 but I, you know, I know a lot of like rural Trump voters, for example, and they're not

02:05:43.360 only good people, they're actually like the best people I've ever met. And they're also

02:05:46.320 the most useful and skillful people I've ever met. Like the most, like actually the most,

02:05:51.060 they can do the most useful things. And the people attacking them, someone like Janet Yellen,

02:05:57.200 the treasury secretary, from my perspective, which is a simple perspective because I'm a simple man,

02:06:02.800 is like an utterly disgraced figure. Like utterly, like there's no one who has less credibility,

02:06:09.280 a shorter track record of real achievement. There's no one who's like more repulsive in every way

02:06:15.160 than Janet Yellen, to me anyway. And she's the one helping to like malign people with real skills.

02:06:24.280 It's like, that's not an accident. This whole system is set up for useless people to have power.

02:06:29.180 Whereas in a just society, they would have no power.

02:06:31.940 I know. Sometimes I wonder like at the lowest levels, like whether like the productive among us

02:06:38.580 are like, I don't know. It's, you know how like at the lowest levels of government,

02:06:42.800 other than the household, which of course we were just talking about, like the HOAs and the community

02:06:48.560 boards. Like they're all consistent of like, like the insecure busybodies. And like the productive

02:06:55.740 people who should be in those roles, the ones who have families and know how to mediate a dispute

02:07:01.220 between their children. Insecure busybodies. You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Like they're not

02:07:05.060 actually in charge of those organizations. No. And so, I don't know. This, this is the best system

02:07:10.620 ever devised in terms of a government, but there are clearly weaknesses. Like that's,

02:07:14.680 and that's one of them. The feeder system into the bigger aspects of government is a lot of

02:07:19.420 insecure busybodies. It's, and I, maybe that's probably always been that way. You know, I'm sure

02:07:26.460 the Roman Senate was filled with insecure busybodies, but it, it never, I guess what I think is new and

02:07:33.240 really obnoxious at best poisonous at worst is not just that like the, the least competent people

02:07:40.660 have the most power, but that they use that power to hurt the most competent people. That is just

02:07:45.800 crazy to me. It is. Like you would think like they would, at least for self-interest reasons,

02:07:50.460 they would say, well, you know, people actually know how to run a power grid or fly an airplane

02:07:55.120 or perform heart surgery. Like we shouldn't attack them on the basis of their skin color. Cause we

02:07:58.560 like need those people. We don't want to be Zimbabwe, but they seem to want to destroy all

02:08:02.980 those people. Do you feel like that's gotten worse? I mean, obviously it feels like-

02:08:07.280 Oh my gosh. Yes. Like the, you know, you asked me earlier about like the distance that the ruling

02:08:12.760 class has from the rest of America. You'd probably be better at answering that question. Like, I mean-

02:08:17.940 I don't know. I mean, I obviously, you know, I guess I'm part of the ruling class. I've been in it my

02:08:22.240 whole life and, and every, and I do think it gives me a better perspective on how lame they are.

02:08:27.680 There's no mystery for me. I know exactly who they are cause I know them, but, um, and I have

02:08:32.360 total contempt for them. Whoa. I'm trying to control it. Um, no, my conclusion, just based on

02:08:38.880 the evidence, again, it's hard to know intent, impossible really, but just on the basis of

02:08:42.340 outcomes is that the whole point of the program is not to uplift anyone. It's to hurt people,

02:08:48.680 specifically Christians above all, but also anyone who's productive, free thinking, you know,

02:08:55.920 the people you really need, like the guys who designed and run the power grid. Like those

02:08:59.800 are the people you need most. Yes. First responders, firemen, cops, EMTs, airline pilots. Like it's not

02:09:07.700 just like, Oh, we need more incompetent airline pilots. It's that we need the current group of

02:09:14.140 airline pilots to die because they have skills that we'll never have. I mean, I feel like this

02:09:21.380 whole system is based on hatred born of envy. That's, that's the way I read it. And you look

02:09:28.700 at, there are a couple of foreign countries, South Africa and Zimbabwe, particularly where

02:09:33.500 the whole point wasn't to like redistribute the land to the landless that didn't actually

02:09:37.800 happen. All the land went to the people with political power. The point was to crush the

02:09:43.000 farmers because the farmers were too productive. And that was offensive to the people in charge.

02:09:48.080 It's like, you go get that yield out of that land when you're tobacco or whatever you're

02:09:52.200 growing. They couldn't. So we have to crush and kill them. They killed them. A lot of them.

02:09:57.380 And so I feel like they're hurting people is the point that does feel it's, it's definitely

02:10:02.000 not about helping black people or helping trans community or helping immigrants. I probably

02:10:07.320 wouldn't be totally against it. If it was, I like helping people, but it's not, it's not

02:10:11.060 about your policies. Like all of that is enabling their destruction. The enabling is what's

02:10:16.220 happening. So like, you know, this whole, like the needle exchange programs, like the left has

02:10:19.520 been on this for years. Wait, you're going to help people continue to inject drugs into their

02:10:22.960 bodies. That's the, that's the plan. Like, uh, all of the marijuana initiatives, like you're

02:10:28.520 going to continue, you're going to dull people. That's the, the plan is to broadly dull the

02:10:31.640 American people. The trans stuff, you're going to tell people, yes, your body's a mistake.

02:10:35.980 The only intervention is my big corporate donor getting rich off of your misery for the rest

02:10:40.280 of your life. Like that's again, to go back to the family analogy in a family, you would intervene

02:10:46.900 in a real, in a healthy family, in a dysfunctional family, you would enable. And that's what they're

02:10:52.760 doing. They're enabling destruction. Yeah. See, I can't relate. I mean, I am, you know,

02:10:57.520 the oldest man in my family pretty much at this point. So I intervene all the time. Like that,

02:11:02.760 that's what you do. I've seen it. Yeah. I mean, I'm an intervener, like immediate intervener.

02:11:07.820 So, um, I think that's your duty. And I just kind of, I don't, I, you know, I love this country and

02:11:14.680 I love its cities. For example, I've lived in a number of them, but I have contempt for people

02:11:20.200 who allow like a needle exchange program to happen. Like, why doesn't someone go burn down

02:11:25.740 the needle exchange? Like, I'm serious and, and take the lumps, go to jail for it. But we're not

02:11:29.600 going to give people intravenous drugs in my neighborhood, period. I'm not going to put up with

02:11:33.800 that period. Yeah. And if you punish me for getting in the way, I will accept that punishment.

02:11:38.440 But I'm not going to allow it. I don't know why people allow that. I really don't. I'm

02:11:42.700 probably saying too much, but I'm not encouraging violence. I'm encouraging zero tolerance for

02:11:47.660 killing people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, but the, you know, meanwhile, the Biden administration,

02:11:51.860 like sending out needle kits, like they're like, they're a part of this. And, but, and it's

02:11:57.100 just, I don't know if you'll accept that. What, what won't you accept? Yeah. I mean, I was in

02:12:03.040 Australia this year and they put people in camps and concentration, like actual,

02:12:07.560 and if you bring that up, you know, that you put people in concentration camps for COVID. Well,

02:12:12.160 they're not really concentration camps. Really? I remember. What were they? I remember the colored

02:12:16.140 tape that they had on the floor. Yeah. If you stepped across it, you would be arrested.

02:12:20.580 Yeah. And they did. They arrested people. Yeah. People put up with it. You're going to get to a

02:12:24.280 place like Canada where they're just like, well, getting to the exact same place that Germany got to

02:12:30.120 in 1933, where if you're useless, we're going to kill you, which they did. They killed hundreds of

02:12:34.060 thousands of Germans, Christian Germans, because they had disabilities or they were useless and

02:12:39.160 they murdered them in hospitals, children. And they're doing that in Canada now with the MAID

02:12:43.280 program and just killing people. Well, it's just cheaper for us to kill you. And everyone's putting

02:12:49.500 up with it. It's just like, you can't put up with certain things. And they'll punish the useful.

02:12:53.780 So they'll kill the useless and punish the useful. So the truckers in Canada get their lives

02:12:59.580 destroyed by merely exercising what is their God-given right, which is to protest, which is

02:13:05.160 to object in the democratic system in which they thought they lived and then have their lives

02:13:10.040 destroyed. And because they didn't have any power to stop it. And that was, I mean, Antifa burns down

02:13:14.600 cities. Canadian truckers set up hot tubs in the streets and protest the government.

02:13:19.580 Yeah. It just seems like there's no kind of way out other than saying, you know, I'm willing to

02:13:28.360 be punished for trying to stop the killing of other people. And that's what I don't like about

02:13:35.820 the party system. It obscures what's at stake. It's like, well, I want my guy to get elected or my

02:13:40.280 party to thrive. It's like, none of that really matters. You cannot allow some NGO to abet intravenous

02:13:47.580 drug use. Like, let's just start there. Or fund the NGOs to the tune of billions of dollars to

02:13:53.100 traffic every foreign national across our border they can get their hands on.

02:13:56.500 Yeah. Well, I never understood why the totally useless governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, didn't just

02:14:02.560 put the national guard on the border. I've said that to his face. I ran into him at an event. I was like,

02:14:06.880 why don't you do that? It's really complicated. It's not complicated. If there's a home invasion

02:14:11.220 in my house, I'm going to get my firearm and stop it if I can. Yeah. And then I'll deal with the

02:14:16.720 concerns because it's my family. So my priority is pretty simple. Protect my family. And then,

02:14:21.940 you know, if the laws are broken, I'll take my lumps. Do you think mass deportation is possible?

02:14:26.780 Of course not. Of course it's not possible. So the majority of the public supports it.

02:14:30.940 Yep. Right now. They don't have the stomach for the images of it, obviously. So the second,

02:14:37.320 you know, the media can find one sob story, they'll accelerate it quickly to hurt Trump and to

02:14:44.080 justify allowing the chaos to continue. And I do think there's a middle ground. I don't think you

02:14:50.060 have to do mass deportations. I think if, if, uh, if Washington was responsible enough, which of

02:14:55.300 course we know the answer, they're not, but if they were responsible enough, they could just create

02:14:59.140 the conditions whereby people wouldn't be able to live here and, and take from us. So

02:15:05.180 past nation, why do you verify? Like literally force businesses to have to hire workers who are allowed

02:15:10.520 to work for them. But we're so far past that because that presupposes that, you know, the

02:15:16.180 immigrants are, all they're getting is access to our labor markets, right? Either if I would stop

02:15:22.380 people from working without papers, without the legal right to work. But we're bringing in tens of

02:15:30.280 millions of people and giving them flat out subsidies that are much higher than American citizens are

02:15:36.420 receiving. Sure. Yeah. So we're paying them to come here. We paid for their travel up here

02:15:41.640 indirectly. State department's doing it. UN's doing it at scale. And then once they get here, it's just

02:15:47.360 like, it's a pinata party with U S tax dollars, a bankrupt country is paying people to invade it.

02:15:54.560 So at that point, it's like, what are we really looking at? Well, you're looking at suicide. Like

02:15:58.240 you're looking at a country that's trying to destroy itself or whose leaders are trying to destroy it.

02:16:02.520 And then that's when you reach like the point where like, I just have to say more prayers about

02:16:06.500 this. I don't know. I know, but you have to, so, but if you had like a real administration that

02:16:11.000 could come in who had the will to do it, you cut off all of that. You don't need someone who could

02:16:15.380 explain it, you know, words matter. Someone who could just get up and say, not against immigrants,

02:16:19.960 but this is obviously suicide and we're not going to participate. Is J.D. Vance a good explainer?

02:16:23.740 I think he's great and he's sincere. You know, I'm certainly politics is not good for people.

02:16:31.620 So, you know, I have seen people change. I pray that he doesn't, but I, as someone who knows him

02:16:36.320 pretty well, I think, um, as of right now, I think he's a, he's the opposite of weird. He is. And I

02:16:44.000 think they're all weird. I'm not even going to say all the people I know are actually really weird

02:16:47.600 in Republican politics. It's definitely most of them. Some of them are obvious, Lindsey Graham or

02:16:51.920 whatever. Everyone jokes about it, but, but there, there's so many freaks, like just truly

02:16:57.340 deceptive people because the business draws them like a bug light. He's not at all that way. So.

02:17:04.620 You're not excluding Democrats from that assessment. You're just saying, you know,

02:17:07.240 you happen to know that a lot of Republicans are weird.

02:17:09.060 Well, anyone in the, at this point in the training party is like, you're a freak.

02:17:13.960 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's a female admiral. Like if you're saying that, what? No, I mean,

02:17:19.060 in the Republican party, which should be the party of normal people, it represents normal

02:17:22.260 people. Sure. Yeah. You know, tries to, pretends to. So, um, no, JD Vance is like the most normal

02:17:27.940 person. Oh, you see, you really think that's, I was, I mean, I, I have wondered, like, you know,

02:17:32.140 a lot of these guys is JD Vance, like sort of, he's at the top of the normal people list for now.

02:17:36.540 I think he is. Um, are there a couple who are really normal? I, in my opinion, this is just my

02:17:42.700 opinion, whatever one man's opinion, but, um, Senator Schmidt from Missouri is wonderful man.

02:17:48.160 I like like an actual good person. I know that for a fact. Um, so, you know, I'm sure there are

02:17:55.740 others. Yeah. I like Tommy Tuberville. Yeah. I don't, so I don't know him, but I don't, I just

02:18:00.200 have talked to him a lot. I thought he was a hero for the abortion fight. Yeah. Yeah. I completely

02:18:03.760 agree. No, I look, I'm generalizing. I'm just disappointed in the party, but there are certainly

02:18:07.620 a ton of freaks. JD is not, he's like a normal person. Yeah. And, um, and he's really, he's

02:18:13.000 legit smart. Uh, so yeah, he could definitely make the case. And what purpose does he serve?

02:18:17.960 Is it just to explain or what purpose does he serve working with Trump? Do you think?

02:18:22.780 Well, again, these are just, I mean, my opinions, I don't really know the answer. How'd this turn

02:18:26.760 into an interview of me? I just want to know. I genuinely want to know because I know you're

02:18:30.720 a fan of JD. I am. Yeah. And I want to know why. Yeah. I've known him since long before he

02:18:35.060 got into politics. So, uh, so I have, you know, a sense of him as a person, I think, because

02:18:39.840 politics does, you know, it's a very weird business as you well know, since unlike me,

02:18:44.840 you still live in Washington. But, um, uh, from my perspective, I mean, I can't speak

02:18:49.720 to why Trump chose him and it was Trump who chose him, you know, facing enormous pressure

02:18:56.000 from sleazy anti-American Republican donors who have all kinds of agendas, none of which

02:19:03.380 have anything to do with life in the United States. Trust me, really, really unbelievable

02:19:08.400 people, but, uh, in a bad way, but he faced them all down and chose this guy cause he wanted

02:19:14.680 to. So from my perspective, the message that JD Vance's pick sent was there is more to the

02:19:20.600 Trump phenomenon than just the man. There's a set of ideas or at least impulses. I don't

02:19:25.100 know, ideas, but just the basic, the basic concept is a leader of a country should look

02:19:30.120 out for his own country. It's like not hard. And by picking JD Vance, who clearly believes

02:19:36.440 that, um, Trump is setting up a, a, a legacy, a really meaningful legacy. Like this is the

02:19:44.400 direction of the party because people can't wait for Trump to leave in the Republican

02:19:47.880 party and just go back to being completely bought and paid for arm of the lobbying community

02:19:55.200 in Washington, whether it's pharma, the banks are certainly the power brokers of the party

02:20:00.500 are excited. Certainly the weapons manufacturers, the defense industry, the killing people business,

02:20:06.340 that goes on, that's made it such a rich city. Um, those people can't wait for Trump to leave

02:20:11.460 and just put in some stooge, which is most of them and call it Trumpism or whatever, but it's

02:20:17.740 the opposite. And JD Vance is like tangible sign that Trump understands that there's more to this

02:20:25.900 than just him. This is a really important idea. It's a very common sense idea. It's the most

02:20:30.600 common sense idea. You can't have a democracy if the people who run the country aren't acting on the

02:20:35.360 country's behalf by definition. And it also seems like he has the most perspective out of everybody

02:20:39.480 in Washington, meaning he's lived in every category of American life. Yes. And so as a result, if you

02:20:47.760 have that much stored wisdom, you should put it to good use. I totally agree. And you hate to reduce

02:20:54.160 people to their biography. And we do that too much in my view, but biography does matter. Like how you

02:21:00.860 grew up, Matt, the fact that, you know, you're the son of a Marine officer and grew up all around the

02:21:05.060 country, like literally all around the country on bases like that, knowing you for a long time, that

02:21:09.420 very much affects your worldview. That's my perception. So it does matter. And the best thing

02:21:15.160 about JD biographically, in my opinion, is the fact that he grew up in, you know, one of these kind

02:21:20.760 of sad communities, post-industrial communities in Ohio, Southern Ohio, Appalachia, and

02:21:26.940 joins the Marine Corps, enlisted. He's smart. He winds up at Yale Law School, which really is like

02:21:33.700 the center of the credential factory in American life. Yeah. And forget Ohio, there's not a lot of

02:21:39.300 Marines going to Yale. Yeah. Yeah. Not enlisted. No, he's like literally enlisted, enlisted Marine.

02:21:46.080 Yeah. Yeah. Like my father, you know, and the guys who tell you to be careful of when they've been

02:21:51.040 drinking, you know, like, and he went to be a law school and then he immediately, cause it's, it's a short

02:21:56.760 step from Yale Law School to private equity in the Aspen Institute. Yeah. And then Trump is starting

02:22:02.340 to rise and people are like, oh, here's our white Appalachian guy, except we've already molded his

02:22:08.760 brain. So why don't you come to the Aspen Institute and tell us all David Brooks and all the douchebag

02:22:13.880 community, what it's like to be a product of this sad, you know, opioid addicted world that you're from.

02:22:20.480 And he does, he dutifully does like, why wouldn't he? And he does this for a couple of years and he

02:22:25.700 realizes through a lot of contact with these people that they're disgusting and he winds up

02:22:31.420 hating them, which is very much sort of my personal story. Yeah. Yeah. Like my contempt is born of like

02:22:39.180 knowledge and contact. Like I'm not, this is not theoretical for me. Like I dislike people because

02:22:43.340 I know them and I know how completely they have abandoned their duty to the country. And I have

02:22:50.460 contempt for them for that. And JD had had exactly the same experience. And he's like, I know exactly who

02:22:55.560 you are. I know everything you have to offer. Yeah. And I'm not interested. He's got the right

02:23:00.180 perspective. And boy, they hate him for that. It's so good. And he's got, and unlike them,

02:23:04.340 he doesn't have contempt for the people that he grew up with. He doesn't have contempt for the

02:23:08.440 voters. No. And, and that's the critical element. And JD, I will say is a lot like Dr. Ben Carson in

02:23:13.760 this way, because Ben Carson kind of had that, that trajectory. Yeah. And once, so JD, as you pointed

02:23:20.720 out, was the muse to middle America, he was the muse to the unwashed American masses. Exactly.

02:23:25.280 The left loved him when he was merely an author and they could pretend like they cared about those

02:23:29.860 people. Right. That was the only reason they loved him. And then the second he announces that he's

02:23:33.600 interested in Republican politics, now he's, now he's evil. Now we're going to make up stories about

02:23:37.800 him. The same with Ben Carson. It's, it happens, it just happens over and over and over again.

02:23:42.340 Totally right. And the fact that he criticized Trump and Trump is a fascist and da, da, da, da,

02:23:48.340 and basically saying the same things that, you know, David Brooks says every week or

02:23:52.540 Tom Friedman or any of those other morons in the New York times editorial page.

02:23:57.240 And then he like realizes that now actually there's like more to Trump than that. And he,

02:24:01.420 and then he ends up liking Trump and it's like pretty sincere. I think, I mean, I know it is

02:24:05.040 cause I've seen it and they're like, wait, you can't, you can't work for Trump. You once disliked

02:24:10.240 Trump. You said the same things about Trump that we say every day. Therefore it's like,

02:24:13.160 what do you even say? As we're speaking, Kamala Harris is disavowing every position she's ever

02:24:17.560 held. And the idea that you'd be critical, be like, Oh, you didn't like Trump once?

02:24:22.540 Well, I kind of like, I don't kind of, I very much like people who change their views on things.

02:24:27.440 Sincerely change your views. Don't just tailor their views to whatever's expedient,

02:24:30.540 but who actually have had, we used to call it growth. Remember that? When people grew,

02:24:34.960 they like sorted through the evidence and realized they were wrong. I mean, I've had that experience

02:24:40.980 so many times. I know, I'm sure you have also. For sure. I like that. Yeah. I like that. Tell me,

02:24:46.520 that's why I like AA meetings. Tell me how wrong you were. Like admit it, admit how powerless and

02:24:51.980 flawed you are. And now I'll trust you. Yes. I don't trust you if you pretend to be God because

02:24:56.800 you're not. Yeah, exactly right. Right. Yeah. You just take, take everything apart and just stare

02:25:01.700 out on the floor and see what, see what fits together again. But those are honest people. Yeah.

02:25:05.960 And the dishonest ones, which is most people in authority are like, Oh, I've always thought that,

02:25:11.140 you know, whatever. Men can become women or whatever. Trans visibility day has been important

02:25:16.100 to me since 1972. Like what? Yeah. Yeah. Or they pretend, they just pretend like they ever had

02:25:21.580 those positions. Like, you know, Barack Obama, he was like, marriage is only between a man or a woman.

02:25:25.820 Like, like not anymore. Not apparently. And he's never looked back.

02:25:30.680 Well, it's always the, you know, it's sad. It's the closet cases that are like so weird on that

02:25:35.720 subject. You know what I mean? It's, I've seen it so much. Um, it makes them so uncomfortable

02:25:41.600 that they kind of like go too far in the other door. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, I'm

02:25:47.620 serious. That's pretty funny. Like dating 10 women at once. Did you see the video of Biden at the

02:25:55.300 debate in 2007, democratic debate, announcing that Barack Obama had an AIDS test?

02:26:01.360 Yes. I think I, remind me. Oh, it's the funniest video ever to Biden. It's at the,

02:26:06.920 this is all the things that happen that get lost that nobody recalls. But, um, in fact,

02:26:11.400 I think we put it up on our X feed because it's so good. But Biden, who really is like a soulless

02:26:17.480 person, uh, said, well, I know, I think, you know, AIDS is a, you know, it's a real problem

02:26:23.440 in the African-American community. And I think we should all get AIDS tests. I mean, Barack Obama

02:26:27.760 had an AIDS test. There's a cutaway of Obama being like, I hate you. Biden's like, he just

02:26:35.620 lets it hang there for just one second. And he's like, I mean, I, which is totally good.

02:26:38.900 And, you know, I think he was, he's negative, but I mean, all men should get an AIDS test.

02:26:46.600 Obama is so mad. So mad. Cause like everybody in democratic politics knows that Obama, you know,

02:26:53.560 they all think that Obama is on the down low. Like they all think that I, trust me, they think

02:26:58.480 that. Well, he, he, uh, I mean, there's actual evidence for this. I mean, because David Garrow's

02:27:03.600 biography, he wrote about it. I'm aware. I've talked to Dave Garrow about it. Which was like,

02:27:06.820 which was, uh, and that book was, you know, it was the definitive book on Obama.

02:27:12.840 That guy interviewed. So he won, what's the award? He won an award for his MLK book.

02:27:16.700 And then he goes parting the waters or I can't something like that. Yeah. And then he goes on

02:27:22.300 and he writes this, the most single, the single most in-depth book on Barack Obama that's ever

02:27:26.260 existed. He's talked to literally everybody, like Obama's mailman, everybody, like anybody who's

02:27:30.900 ever had any contact. Former girlfriends too. Former girlfriends. And that's where he got the

02:27:34.780 letters where Obama was admitting his gay fantasies to a girl that he was seeing. And, uh, that was,

02:27:40.320 and so the media refused to cover it, which was totally real. It was like, it's, it's in the book.

02:27:44.660 There's no denying it. I mean, Garrow is considered, I think one of the most authoritative

02:27:50.480 biographers alive. And, uh, you know, people just get right back. And Garrow's a liberal.

02:27:55.240 And, but I think, um, I'm pretty sure if I can say conclusively that Garrow came to really kind

02:28:01.760 of dislike Obama and to think he was fraudulent during the writing of that book. And, um, that book

02:28:08.380 was, I don't know, it wasn't banned of course, but it was, uh, it was definitely. Yeah.

02:28:14.660 It, cause it got, you know, it got to the core question, which is who is this guy exactly?

02:28:19.960 And there's, you know, he's clearly has a lot of talents. I've always thought that about Obama,

02:28:23.700 but it was, he was also like, there's deception at the core.

02:28:28.260 Also like it kind of gives away the game. Cause if their whole belief is that it's totally normal

02:28:31.780 to be gay, then like, why wouldn't they just feature it?

02:28:34.000 Well, I completely agree with that.

02:28:34.960 Like why wouldn't they just be like, oh, this is another great detail about his life that

02:28:37.580 we've discovered.

02:28:38.080 Well, I, it's so weird to be, you know, on the right or wherever I am and feel like you're

02:28:44.040 more liberal on this stuff than like the democratic party. Cause there are plenty of people in the

02:28:48.260 democratic party who are still closeted. And it's like, by the way, I do not believe in

02:28:52.360 getting into, you know, I think people should be allowed to reveal as much as they want about

02:28:56.440 their personal lives. Like privacy is really important. In fact, it's essential. So it's not

02:29:00.560 my place to, you know, get into that, but there are a ton, including really famous ones. And it's

02:29:06.560 like, how dare you get up and everybody else is constantly lecturing everyone about their sex

02:29:11.720 lives. Like it's your business. It's not just shut up about everyone's sex life. Okay. One,

02:29:15.980 two, if you're like Mr. You know, or, or Ms. You know, gay rights advocate and you're

02:29:21.460 closeted, like what, how can you live with yourself?

02:29:25.800 Also the core point with all of these stories is like, if, if you're leading your life in

02:29:31.560 deception, why should you have any responsibility over the rest of ours? So if you're an

02:29:35.260 power, yeah, if you, if you have power, it is reasonable to ask fundamental questions about

02:29:39.640 what you're honest about and what you're lying about.

02:29:41.860 Dude, I agree completely. And we all lie and, um, and it's bad, but it's like super,

02:29:50.680 super basic lies, ongoing lies like that.

02:29:52.900 Yeah. Yeah. It tells you a lot. And as a voter, you want to know that kind of thing. Oh,

02:29:56.900 like, uh, in Kamala Harris's case, you'd, you see the, the, the intern who once worked for her,

02:30:02.560 who revealed what it was like working in her office in, uh, in San Francisco.

02:30:06.320 I think it was approximately exactly what you would expect.

02:30:10.060 Every time she walked in in the morning, they had to say, good morning, general.

02:30:17.560 General.

02:30:17.880 General. So like, I think a lot of people don't realize, like, I guess there is like,

02:30:21.160 there is a format, there is like a formal title that you could refer to an attorney general as

02:30:24.700 general, but it is so preposterous that almost nobody does it. It's so stupid.

02:30:28.140 I know many attorneys general, many, many, more than 10. And I've never called a single one of them.

02:30:33.040 No. And to the extent that you've ever talked to them about it, they're like kind of embarrassed

02:30:36.420 by the concept. Like not actually a general. So don't say that.

02:30:39.260 Yeah. How many tanks do you have?

02:30:40.280 Yeah. Not generals. Yeah. So she would walk in in the morning and her expectation was that every

02:30:46.340 single person would stand and say, good morning, general. Yeah. Now, as you know, my dad is a

02:30:52.320 Marine general. An actual general. Right. And he said, he told me, he's like, that story alone

02:30:58.280 is told me everything I need to know about her. Every single thing I need to know about her is

02:31:03.560 encapsulated in that one anecdote. That's right. It's totally right.

02:31:06.300 Demand the interns who are not allowed to make eye contact. Stand up when you walk in and say,

02:31:11.280 good morning, general. Yeah. You should not have your hands on the levers of power.

02:31:14.640 Well, yeah, because it suggests a hollowness, an insecurity, a fear. I mean, again, she's terrified.

02:31:22.040 This person is terrified. She's been elevated far beyond her capabilities. And she knows that,

02:31:28.000 of course. That's why she's so brittle. And, you know, people like that are really dangerous.

02:31:33.560 They're not centered. They don't have limits. Yeah.

02:31:36.540 We just took a break and we were laughing about all the things that we can't say on YouTube that we

02:31:41.880 bleep. And really, I think the only three categories are if you claim that men cannot become women by

02:31:49.440 tapping their heels together and wishing it so. If you claim that the 2020 election, you know,

02:31:55.000 that Biden didn't really get more votes than Black Jesus. If you question the election in any way,

02:32:00.680 and what's the third? Oh, the VAX. The VAX is great. Everything about the VAX is great.

02:32:06.260 It's safe and effective. And if you say anything to the contrary of those, you just get demonetized

02:32:12.280 and then they take your channel away. But I think you can say pretty much anything. I think those are

02:32:16.320 the only three guidance points I've received. Yeah. So that leaves a lot, doesn't it?

02:32:20.520 So, so I just want to make directly clear that I totally believe in the VAX, the 2020 election

02:32:26.920 and the tranny stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Full blown. And I saw Bigfoot on the way in here. I don't know

02:32:30.600 if people can hear that they say that. I think I did. I saw him on the way in. You know, the earth

02:32:34.400 is flat, of course. A hundred percent. That's a moon landing fake. The moon landing is fake.

02:32:38.900 I came around to that. I didn't believe it. CIA killed Kennedy. No problem at all.

02:32:42.640 Yeah. Yeah. You can, you can say all of that, but so you're saying everything we said before

02:32:46.420 that you can, nobody could hear it. No, no one can hear it. No, no, no. I was just endorsing

02:32:50.480 those views. I think the VAX is safe and effective. I just want to say that Ivermectin is for,

02:32:54.680 it's a horse dewormer or something. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Here's my last,

02:32:58.960 because we're trying to turn this around today. So I, I could keep going, but we have to get this

02:33:03.660 into edit to bleep all the stuff that YouTube doesn't want you to hear, which you can get on our

02:33:08.120 website, tuckercarlson.com uncensored. If you like, here's my question.

02:33:12.640 We both agree that there's no chance Kamala Harris gets, quote, elected president except

02:33:18.460 through the unremitting lying by the American news media. Like she's their candidate. They

02:33:24.840 have to get her across the finish line. This infuriating to me. So infuriating that I don't

02:33:29.500 really watch. You have to watch because you have a daily show of all the dishonest media outlets

02:33:35.660 out there, which is basically all of them, including the wall street journal. Uh, what

02:33:41.080 is the most dishonest? The most dishonest. I, I would say, I guess the people who jump off the

02:33:48.520 page at me immediately, I guess there's two shows in particular. One is Morning Joe. Like the,

02:33:55.380 the whole cast of Morning Joe, they literally have a character on that show who's called Barnacle.

02:34:00.020 Yeah. He hangs on to the show. He's been hanging on for years. Um, but anyway, the, the point is

02:34:06.080 like that show, like they'll change their attitudes on a dime just to serve whatever the left wants at

02:34:11.160 any given moment. It's really sad. It's pathetic. And they're so angry about Trump. Um, and so that,

02:34:17.000 that comes out of, they were Trump cheerleaders. They were Trump cheerleaders and now they're Biden

02:34:21.300 cheerleaders or they have been up until Biden got replaced because Biden was close to them. It was the

02:34:26.900 show he watched in the morning. So they tailored their programming only to his interests. And

02:34:30.620 it's really embarrassing. And I would never. So when they round you up, you and your family

02:34:34.920 and put you in some camp or put you on trial for thought crimes, you think Morning Joe

02:34:38.340 will defend you? Will mount a defense for me?

02:34:41.400 Just on principle? I don't think so. And I don't think this clip will be the reason for that. I

02:34:45.640 think literally they, they, they already know what to think of me. Um, and then it's,

02:34:50.520 I know all those people very well and it's sad to see it. I mean, Joe Scarborough is like

02:34:54.820 not stupid at all. Joe Scarborough is actually smart. Not that that matters. There's a lot of

02:34:59.480 bad, smart people, but, uh, he is not stupid. He's much smarter than your average cable news person.

02:35:05.800 But his, like what they're doing doesn't represent, like he was a Florida congressman and, and, and

02:35:10.620 then he left and then there was, who's represented by like, like who in Florida would say, yeah,

02:35:15.860 that guy's speaking for me. No, no. But what I'm saying is like, he knows, like he, he like Don

02:35:20.180 Lamont, something like that. You think, well, does he really know what he's saying? Right. You

02:35:25.440 know, no, not really. Um, I don't think he does. I don't think he has any idea what he's saying

02:35:29.200 actually, which kind of makes me sort of like him. Joe Scarborough knows exactly what he's

02:35:33.280 doing. That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah. Yeah. He's tactical in, in his presentation. No

02:35:39.220 question. I mean, and somehow he's thrived amidst all of this. Like, I don't like he and Mika got

02:35:43.840 married and now they do the show in, in Florida and they pretend they're in DC and it's like,

02:35:48.000 it's all very weird. How's that going? Do they look happy? I haven't seen it in a while.

02:35:50.840 I don't know. Is that working for them? I, I, I can't, I, I, I don't know. There's so

02:35:56.220 much phoniness on TV. So it's like, everyone's always pretending to be. I know. I don't, I

02:35:59.820 don't think it's working that well. As you know, I don't think it's working that well. Um,

02:36:02.240 the other show that stands out to me, that's like so cartoonish, but it does have like millions

02:36:05.800 of viewers is The View. Have you actually seen The View? Not like beginning to end. I'm, I'm a clip

02:36:11.720 consumer of The View. Yes. Like, just like a lot of people. Like I, I, uh, I, I will never allow somebody

02:36:17.420 to tell me what happened and then just reinterpret that event in that way. Like, I hate that. Like

02:36:21.440 that happens all the way that happened to you, like throughout your entire career, but especially

02:36:24.740 around Fox, like the left always had these views of you that weren't filtered through watching a

02:36:28.720 clip of your show or even, or certainly not the entire show. It was literally what some lefty

02:36:33.440 outlet told them about you. That's their interpretation. They never get it right. I mean,

02:36:36.680 I always feel like I have all kinds of obvious faults. I have definitely have some pretty serious

02:36:42.080 bigotries. They're just not racial bigotries, but do you know what I mean? They always got it

02:36:47.240 wrong. They always, you won't tolerate certain things. That's what bigotry means. There are

02:36:50.880 certain kinds of people I don't like, um, at all in a very unreasonable way, but they're not black

02:36:56.500 people. Actually, they're affluent, a lot of affluent whites. I just don't like them. Uh,

02:37:02.000 especially some of the ladies. I just don't like them. The ones who scream at you. Yeah. The ones

02:37:06.800 who scream at me. And I'm, by the way, I'm not defending that that's bigotry, but it's not the kind

02:37:10.620 of bigotry they're always accusing me of. It's like, yeah, you're right. I'm a bad person,

02:37:15.040 but in a very different way. Can you be like, you'd be more accurate. But if she comes lumbering

02:37:19.100 towards you with blue hair, like you enter mask, like you kind of have a read on which way this is

02:37:23.640 going. Yeah. But you shouldn't judge people without knowing them, I think, but I do in that way,

02:37:30.060 but it was never, they were always like, you know, whatever. Anyway, no. Do people yell at you less

02:37:34.540 now? Yeah. Never anymore. I don't go anywhere, you know? Wait, but I mean, in the few times that

02:37:38.500 you're at an airport, for instance, do they yell less? Yeah, not at all anymore. Oh, that's good.

02:37:42.940 It's interesting. I don't really know what that's about. Well, you know, not having your face on

02:37:47.400 Fox and then the media pretending like you don't exist. Meanwhile, you have the number one podcast

02:37:51.600 in the country. Yeah. Basically, all the lefties who would be conditioned to yell at you don't

02:37:56.920 consume whatever everyone else is consuming. I never cared. It never bothered me. Just don't

02:38:01.060 come to my house, you know? That was always my view. So anyway, the view, I haven't seen the view in

02:38:05.420 a long time. It's just, it's like, it's over the top, like comical cheerleading for like everything

02:38:11.020 the left is for. And they're always against Trump at all odds, like at all costs, no matter what he

02:38:15.940 does. He's always guilty of everything. He was, he was rightly prosecuted by every Democrat prosecutor

02:38:20.820 in the country. He should be in jail. It's like, it's just. Is Joe Farah's daughter still on there?

02:38:26.700 Yeah. And nobody talks about that. He is such a nice man. Joe Farah is a nice man. And he had this

02:38:32.560 very low IQ daughter. What is it? It's World Net Daily, right?

02:38:35.720 Yeah. And he's just a nice guy.

02:38:38.320 It was Joseph Farah.

02:38:39.000 I've known him like 30 years and he's just a nice person. And, but he had this daughter who

02:38:44.080 was like an idiot and sad. And she went up in the view, I heard.

02:38:51.380 Yeah. Well, nobody holds the Joseph Farah thing against her. Like, meaning I realized that

02:38:56.900 you wouldn't hold it against her. But what I'm saying is like the left for years demonized

02:39:02.300 World Net Daily and Joe Farah. Yeah.

02:39:03.980 So like, like under like, I guess, normal circumstances, anything even related to him,

02:39:10.480 they would demonize, but not so with her. Like she's on the show and nobody even brings

02:39:14.120 it up. Like nobody.

02:39:14.920 She's, as I remember, is the kind of person who will just say whatever it takes to get

02:39:19.800 the acceptance of the people around her. Is she like a regime defender?

02:39:23.200 For almost entirely. Occasionally she'll like issue like a squeak of moderation in the midst

02:39:27.800 of all of their babbling. But, but no, for the most part, a regime defender is really

02:39:31.240 sad and stupid and easy to control. Like a lot of people on TV.

02:39:34.880 It's awful. Um, but then like, of course there's like Joy Behar who like once wore blackface

02:39:39.980 and she's still like on the show and, uh, you know, Whoopi Goldberg who like clearly

02:39:44.340 doesn't do any research. She just wings it entirely. Uh, which is funny.

02:39:49.100 Joy Behar. So I did the view once 20 years ago when I worked at CNN, the PR department pushed

02:39:53.960 me to do the view. And the only thing, Barbara Walters was there. I remember that. I remember

02:39:58.480 I think the whole thing was like so mindless, but Joy Behar was like the screechiest human

02:40:01.940 being I'd ever met in my life. Is she still that way?

02:40:06.100 A hundred percent. Maybe worse. Probably worse.

02:40:09.880 Really?

02:40:10.420 Yeah. Uh, probably worse. It, it is crazy.

02:40:14.260 And do you think that like any, any world in which Whoopi Goldberg is moderating whatever

02:40:18.280 meaningful, whatever little debates might be breaking out at the table is like crazy.

02:40:22.640 One last question. Do you think like, I know that there are very, very few Republican donors

02:40:29.980 who, um, are worth much, unfortunately there are some, but not a ton, but I always thought

02:40:35.300 like a show, like the view and a person like Joy Behar, that could be such a brilliant disinformation

02:40:40.620 campaign. Someone who's so unappealing. So like prima facie repulsive that she pushes people

02:40:48.340 away from her position. Could it be that Joy Behar is actually getting funding from

02:40:52.800 ex-Republican donor to discredit the other party's program?

02:40:57.220 Right. She works for Elon.

02:40:58.560 She's.

02:40:58.780 Well, you do kind of wonder.

02:40:59.880 She's.

02:41:00.380 And she's still that way?

02:41:01.520 Yeah, she is.

02:41:02.180 She's got to be 150 years old at this point.

02:41:04.680 Oh, it's so, it's so crazy. I don't, I, I, I don't even really know how like she got

02:41:09.320 jobs. Like, wasn't she on CNN at one point? She had like a headline.

02:41:12.280 I don't know. Not when I was there.

02:41:14.600 I think it was after you were there.

02:41:15.740 Sure. Okay.

02:41:16.320 Anyway, the point is, it's like, it, it still exists. They're still crazy. It makes for

02:41:21.160 great fodder for clips. I mean, I love clips from the show because it's so ridiculous. It's

02:41:25.340 so easy to eviscerate. It's like Ben Shapiro debating a college student. It's like the easiest

02:41:29.900 stuff. It's funny.

02:41:31.780 Yeah. Thank heaven for that. A daily show would be impossible without the rest of the media.

02:41:36.580 Yeah, for sure.

02:41:37.100 I remember certain days when I had a daily show. Thank heaven. I don't do that anymore. But

02:41:40.420 be like, oh my gosh, it's August. Like, what are we talking about? This is before the

02:41:44.380 news went totally crazy all times. But, um, you know, there's always some Tom Fox, our

02:41:50.500 genius producer would always be like, what? I don't know what to write about tonight. He'd

02:41:54.860 be like, I'll send you some clips. And they would piss me off so complete.

02:41:58.340 Yes.

02:41:59.300 You have like Don Lemon saying that a plane disappeared into a black hole.

02:42:02.500 Right.

02:42:02.880 And you're like, of course we have to do that. But you know, actually, now that I think

02:42:05.060 about it, that may be the one thing he was right about.

02:42:07.580 I was just thinking that exact same thing. That was the old Don Lemon. That was like Don

02:42:11.540 Lemon before he decided to do whatever Jeff Zuckerberg wanted. Totally. Yeah. And I remember

02:42:16.740 mocking him and being like, oh, that's so stupid. Compared to what? Like what's, so what's, what's,

02:42:22.700 what's the real answer?

02:42:23.520 Yeah. And like, I think it was, I think when he said that there was like a panel of people

02:42:26.540 on and everyone looked so embarrassed that he said it out loud.

02:42:29.620 Yes.

02:42:29.920 But he stuck to it and that was his greatest moment.

02:42:32.420 Yes. I totally actually, I'll end with this, his greatest moment ever. And I think I'm,

02:42:37.020 correct me if I got this wrong, but he was profiled by like Atlanta magazine or something.

02:42:42.440 Do you remember this?

02:42:43.180 I remember. I don't remember the magazine specifically, but I think I may be getting

02:42:45.600 this wrong, but he's sitting and the reporter is a female reporter, very good writer, this

02:42:49.660 woman. I think I know her, but whatever. Anyway, she was, I can't remember who it was, but she's

02:42:53.660 having lunch with Don Lemon and he's like, you know, in journalism, you know, think about

02:42:58.120 journalism, Vince, those who have been chosen to practice it, to stride its hallowed halls,

02:43:04.400 men like Woodward and Bernstein and myself. And he's just giving this like impossibly pompous

02:43:11.000 lecture. And the waiter comes up and he's also like fussy and pompous. And Don Lemon goes,

02:43:17.860 I'd like some lemon sorbet. And the pompous fussy waiter goes, I'm sure it's actually pronounced

02:43:24.760 sorbet, which is like devastating. Actually mispronounced the name of the dessert.

02:43:29.360 Yeah.

02:43:29.660 You pompous dude.

02:43:30.180 After trying to impress your dinner guest with how impressive you are.

02:43:33.120 But Don Lemon is living in this like airtight bubble of self-esteem that's just impregnable.

02:43:40.400 Like you can't violate Don's self-esteem. It's just, it's bulletproof. And so he goes,

02:43:45.580 no, my man, it's pronounced sorbet.

02:43:50.460 I'm like, I love you.

02:43:52.540 Because you're so stupid, but it's real.

02:43:55.040 He's stuck to his guts.

02:43:56.000 I love you.

02:43:56.600 That's the best. Bring back that, Don Lemon.

02:43:58.040 I totally agree.

02:44:00.200 Vince, thank you.

02:44:01.020 Thank you, Tiger.

02:44:03.120 Thank you.

02:44:04.120 Thank you.

The Tucker Carlson Show - August 19, 2024

Vince Coglianese： DNC Predictions, Don Lemon, and Why Kamala Harris Is Terrified

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