Vince Coglianese: DNC Predictions, Don Lemon, and Why Kamala Harris Is Terrified
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The Democratic National Convention starts this week, appalling, but there are, thankfully, entertainment possibilities, and we think we've found them . We'll be doing a live stream to react to Carmela Harris's primetime speech Thursday night, 8.30 Eastern . We recommend it strongly, so go to tuckercarlson.com to see the whole thing live Thursday night .
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The Democratic National Convention starts this week, appalling, but there are, thankfully,
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entertainment possibilities, and we think we've found them. So for the first time in a long time,
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we are going live this Thursday night, 8.30 Eastern. We'll be doing a live stream to react
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to Carmela Harris's primetime speech. Great Jason Whitlock will join us in studio. This will be
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airing on TCN only. We recommend it strongly, so go to tuckercarlson.com to see the whole thing
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live Thursday night, 8.30. In the meantime, here's our latest episode on the DNC with Vince Colonnese.
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So someone just sent me a video of the protesters outside the DNC. So I guess, almost by definition,
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even crazier than the people inside the DNC. And the first thing you notice is they're all wearing
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masks outside. And I don't want to be mean, mental illness is real. They're obviously mentally ill.
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But what's so interesting is I never see that in my life. Do you ever see anybody wearing masks outside?
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Yeah, but that's, so there are categories of people, I think, who are just neurotic
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and who've been misled, especially by the left. And they wear the mask still up until this very day.
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I actually think the cost to socialization is even worse. It's like your health is awful,
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but like, what does that say about you and how isolated you are from the rest of society?
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That can't be good for your head. And the truth is, I think, I don't think it's for like a lot
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of these people, I don't really think in the end it's really about the health. They maybe soothe
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themselves by saying that. Fundamentally, it's a political gesture. It's, I'm a part of a club.
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It's a uniform. It's signaling you're with the left. And they're still doing it to this day. It's
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like crazy. I think I'm just too out of it. I mean, because I see that and I'm like, okay,
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especially if it's a man, you're totally emasculated and pathetic.
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You have no self-respect at all. You hate yourself and for good reason. That's the first thing I
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think. With contempt, but also pity, like I just can't, like you actually see people with masks
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Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. And I do think like the people that you're talking about outside the
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convention, that's also a means to commit a crime and get away with it.
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That's really, so a lot of states in our country, I don't know if it's all the states, but a lot of
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On the books. And the concept is that you shouldn't-
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You shouldn't like a bandit, like be able to just rob a store with a handkerchief tied around your face.
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So they have anti-masking laws, which I think are still on the books and no one's ever gotten
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Those were anti-Klan laws, I think, in most places.
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Well, that would be a useful law in order to prevent that activity. So anyway, but these guys,
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and they commit crimes. It's the same, it's the truth about Antifa. How often did we see a riot
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committed by Antifa where they destroyed things, where they killed people, where they burned,
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they burned down the third precinct in Minneapolis, all of the chaos, and they're wearing masks.
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In order to prevent people from knowing who they are so that they can be held accountable.
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And we accept it because the left says, well, mask wearing is necessary.
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I don't want to digress too much, which is a problem that I have, but did the FBI ever,
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I mean, I know we spent a lot of time tracing the roots of Christian nationalism and like scary
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middle-class grandmothers are still in jail from January 6th, et cetera, et cetera. But did anybody
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in law enforcement ever get to the bottom of Antifa?
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No, no. And they've shown almost no interest in it.
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They came to my house and threatened my wife, vandalized my house, killed a bunch of people
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I remember really clearly. Did the cops ever follow up with you after-
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I don't want to make it about me or whine about it. It's not about me.
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You would think as a victim of it, as your wife being a victim of it, then maybe you'd
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No, nobody cared. And the cops did come to my house months later. In fact, two black cops,
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both of whom told me they were voting for Trump in DC, great guys, came to my house and told
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The cops told you, you're on your own. That's what they-
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They didn't say you're on your own. They said, we recommend that you carry a gun.
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Which I did, of course. But no, they were actually great. But no, but there was no effort
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to kind of find out who did this. But it's just interesting. Again, I don't want to make
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it about me because it's not, but I just think it's remarkable that you could have this armed
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militia in the streets that still exists. And nobody at the FBI, they really are criminals,
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the people who run the FBI, if I can just say. Chris Ray's a freaking criminal. I'm trying not
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to use the F word. But they don't get to the bottom of it.
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Yeah. Well, just ask the crisis pregnancy centers around the country. So all the pro-life pregnancy
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And who work with them in the early stages of their child's life.
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Yeah, adoption. Like angels on earth. Every single person I've interviewed who works with
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or for a crisis pregnancy center is, first of all, a lot better person than I am.
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And you can feel the spirituality come off of them.
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The goodness, the innate goodness come off of them. And all of the crimes against those places,
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they don't get solved. In fact, they don't even get looked into in any meaningful way.
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And that includes firebombing. That includes vandalism, smashing windows,
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attacking these facilities. Meanwhile, if you're singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill,
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your life will be destroyed. If you're a grandmother singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill,
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your life will be destroyed. And when Merrick Garland, the attorney general, was asked about this
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in Congress, like, hey, crisis pregnancy centers being destroyed, old ladies singing outside of
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abortion mills. He said, well, he didn't say the old lady, but the old lady, her face is out and
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it's in daylight, so we can catch her. But the Antifa people, they do it at night.
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So Speaker Mike Johnson, who's constantly telling you what a great Christian he is,
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sort of led the effort to refund the FBI and build them a new headquarters and has done nothing.
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I mean, the FBI is now a kind of anti-Christian secret police force. And the purportedly Christian
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Speaker of the House just sort of rubber stamps their funding every year and nobody does anything
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about this. I mean, you can feel the frustration in my voice, I think.
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It's totally despicable. And I hate dwelling on that.
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Because what it starts to do is it creeps into your mind, but none of it matters.
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Like, you start becoming so fatalist about it, you know, it's like, I don't care whatever the
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And I don't want to be tempted by that thought. Like, I really don't.
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Not that I have any idea what you're talking about, Vince.
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Which is why, okay, so do you think Trump learned enough lessons from round one in order to do it
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You know, you hope so. I mean, I think like a lot of people, why am I talking? I'm here
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to interview you. But since you asked, I think like a lot of people, well, first of all, I
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really like Trump enormously as a person. A. B. I think that the alternative is so shocking
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that I, you know, I've kind of put on pause all thoughts like the one you just raised.
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Right. Because it's super clear what's going to happen if the Democratic Party holds power. It's
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not about Kamala Harris. She's not even, I don't think there's any evidence. She's like an actual
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Right. So it's about the party. It's about the collective. It's about the people who really
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have wrecked the country continuing to loot it and to destroy the first and second amendments,
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the Bill of Rights, civil liberties in the United States for another four years, which will really
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be kind of the end. And then you're just a one party state. That's what I foresee. And that's just
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so bad that I'm not spending a ton of time thinking about the question that you just raised. But you
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Yeah. But the, I mean, first of all, the chances of both of these scenarios are very high. Like one
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where Kamala wins and we head for what you think is the end. Do you, is it that, is it that dark for
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Well, I have no idea. My ability to foresee the future is like non-existent. Every political call
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And that's true, by the way, of almost like literally everybody in politics.
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Yeah. And I also think just judging from my own brief and not very exciting life,
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one takeaway from it though, after 55 years is your victories turn out very often to be your losses
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and your losses almost always turn out to be your victories. And we don't see that as people. It's a
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consistent theme throughout history, throughout the old and new testaments. It's like just when you
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think everything is lost, that is, I mean, well that actually, that's the theme of Christianity.
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Out of, you know, being tortured to death, the world is saved.
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Don't you feel like, don't you feel like that that happened in 2020? So in a sense,
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the losses of 2020 have definitely hardened like the world of normal people to the point that like,
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they're not playing games anymore. They're not dressing up their language. They're being very
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They're not trying to suck up to everybody else.
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I mean, I like, look, if we had to do 2020 over again, I don't want the outcome that we got,
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but I will say it's made a lot of people better. And in fact, you and I have talked about this.
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It's made a lot of people better. That is absolutely right.
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The spiritual component, the religious component in the country took off in a way that I couldn't
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I felt it coming. I don't know why, but I actually have not been surprised by it. I've
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been delighted to see it, but not surprised. But I do think that people I know, I'm really
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blessed to know, are all deeper and smarter and warmer with each other, more real with
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each other, you know, more, more, I love yous, more honesty.
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Way more. So I, I just know for my own family, and I'm not talking about material prosperity,
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I just mean, I'm speaking only in terms of love, is so much stronger and happier, you know,
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for after COVID, after all the, after the BLM riots, after all the sadness we've seen after the
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clearly stolen election, you know, all these bad things happen. But, but people I know love each
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other more. So yeah, no, you're absolutely, so like, I'm not going to even guess, I shouldn't
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even have said all that about the Democratic Party, because I don't know what's going to
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Well, I guess if you take the, the long view, which as a Christian, you should, if you take
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the long view, in the end, you're not really all that disturbed by the pace of this. I mean,
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you're disturbed on behalf of your family, of course, you care about your country, but you
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have this eternal optimism that, well, the Bible does kind of lay out the misery that
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And so, in the end, you always wonder, like, at what stage in history are we living through?
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Yeah. So I think you have an advantage because you're 15 years younger than me-ish.
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But I was born in 69, and so from 69 to 2016, my core assumption was, you know, everything's
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great, and everything's going to get better every year, and like, bad things don't happen,
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our system is totally solid. And, you know, there are, of course, bad actors within the
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system, but they don't control the system. The system is fundamentally real. It is a democracy
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in some loose sense that people do have a say in how they're governed, et cetera, et cetera,
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et cetera, et cetera. 9-11 is real. I mean, you know, like, whatever. I just, like, kind
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of believed everything. And, but, you know, the lesson of history is there's always turmoil,
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and a lot of things are always going to be fake.
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And, you know, the Lord of the earth is Satan. I mean, that's kind of right. And so it's just
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like, this is what it is. It's what it's always been. I just think people who are,
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your age are less shocked by that than I am. Yeah. Yeah. My main impediment is just being
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shocked. Like, I can't believe this is happening. Yeah, that's true. What? They're putting people
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in prison for praying at abortion clinics? Like, what? They replaced Easter with Trans
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Visibility Day? I can't believe this. I know. Which is kind of like, I'm not a boomer, but it is
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kind of, thankfully, I'm not a boomer, but it's kind of a boomer response. The opening ceremonies
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to the Olympics. Yeah. The fact that they would do a fake Last Supper with all trans people or
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drag people. It's like, does it get any more brazen? I mean, and they're like, oh, it's
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totally normal. Like, what are you all complaining about? What? I mean, it is, they double barrel
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middle finger every Christian on earth. Of course, because Christianity is the enemy. That's what
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they hate. That's what they actually hate. Like all the other, all the nonsense. We're here
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to help black people. We're here to help trans people. We're here to help immigrants. You're
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not here to help anybody. You're here to oppose Christianity is what you're here to do. Period.
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That's their goal. Whether they know it or not, but don't listen to what they say, watch
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what they do. For sure. So what, okay. Tell me what to make of, speaking of spiritual themes
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in our politics, the abortion lobby shows up at the DNC this week and sends with them a mobile
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vasectomy clinic. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So you can get snipped, um, if you want at the DNC. This at a time
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where the birth rate among native born Americans is like not way below replacement. Definitely. Not
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having babies. Yeah. Why would that be your priority? It's a death cult. It's a total death
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cult. I mean, every, look, at the bottom of every one of these policies that they pitch and they sell
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you was like a good thing is human suffering at the bottom of all of them. Yeah. So a really good
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example of this is the climate stuff. So let's assume for a moment that all of their climate
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catastrophizing is correct. Yes. That it's our activity that's making the earth warmer. Okay.
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Well, it turns out that the warmer the planet is, the better it is for humans. Right. More humans
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survive in an environment where the earth is warmer. In fact, when the earth is colder, lots of people die.
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Lots of people die. And so there, and there's no, actually no, there's no, um, challenge to that
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science whatsoever. It's totally clear. You know, if it's a matter of like sea level rise, all this
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other stuff, we have like amazing alert systems, hurricanes. The reason people don't die to
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hurricanes is because we have, we have such a far out advanced notice that they're coming. Uh, our,
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our buildings are so much more durable. They never talk about death counts, by the way, when they talk
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about hurricanes and what they're doing in the climate change, way fewer people die due to hurricanes.
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No, it's never at its core about human flourishing ever. So if it's not about human flourishing,
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it's about the opposite. It's about death. It's eternally fine with it. In fact, they view us as a
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cancer on the earth, at least the, the radical left's so-called environmental movement and the
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abortion thing. It is, it is, it's a death cult. It's all sort of like pagan tribal religions have had
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death rituals. Of course, human sacrifice is the one constant. Yes. I, on my radio show,
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I refer to this as human sacrifice all the time because that's what it is. And I, it's so, it's
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breaking yourself of the spell of using their terminology is such a challenging thing to do
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because it's like everywhere. It surrounds you. It's like every newspaper you read, every
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television show you watch, every social media post you consume, lots of them in the past,
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they use like the language of the left as it's shifting, as it's modifying. And if you don't use the
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language, you're censored. So it's mind control as you know. And so the, the obsession with death
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and advancing it as a social good is one of the most destructive things that any culture can do.
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And we're living through it. I mean, this abortion fetish is out of control. And you know,
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what's even crazier is that the Kamala campaign, to the extent that one exists, that, that has a
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policy agenda, that's their thing. They think that's their number one issue is abortion. Yeah.
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And they think that she's a great pitch woman for it. She's so good at an abortion. She's like,
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so how many abortions would equal freedom and happiness? We don't have enough abortions. That's
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the, no, but is there, can they, I mean, I always feel like in politics, you know, effective
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politicians describe the future. They will bring you a few vote for them. Yeah. Vote for me and you get
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whatever, a new car. Fine. I get that. What, but when you run on abortion, it's like, we have a lot,
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we have hundreds of thousands of abortions every year, um, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
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abortions every year. So, um, how many more until we're happy? I mean, some years we've had,
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I think in the vicinity of a million abortions a year, which, um, for those people who pay attention
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to immigration, uh, that's about the number of legal immigrants we bring into the country every year.
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So we're aborting a million Americans and then importing a million workers each year,
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give or take. Right. That number of changes. And it's super disheartening because it's like,
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first of all, you're killing off the next generation of the people who have a vested
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interest in this country. And then you're importing people who don't at all. It's.
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And no, no tie to its history at all or to its systems or to its creed. Yeah. It's not.
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I mean. To its culture, to its language. They're not even bothering themselves with
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that question. It's like a sensible immigration system would actually be predicated on those
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questions. Right. What can you contribute? How much do you adhere? Are you going to assimilate?
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Are you going to buy into our culture and creed? Those are the core questions of how you compose
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a country and allow immigration at the same time. They're not even, they're aligning those. They're,
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who cares? Just bring everybody in and forget legal. We'll just, we'll establish an app south of our
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border. You just like an Uber. You just sign up to come into the country and the Biden administration
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will human traffic you in. Yes. Which is what they're doing at your expense. Isn't that wild?
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And then convincing Americans that having children is like the worst thing that they could ever do.
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That component of this is the part that makes me think that Turning Point is paying for it or
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something. Like somebody set up, like a right-wing group set up a vasectomy machine outside of the
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DNC. It's pretty funny. But I don't know. I mean, the left has been obsessed with abortion for years.
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It hasn't diminished the number of people who buy into the storyline.
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It's just so interesting. I mean, I've been pro-life, you know, since my 20s anyway,
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Even before then. But I never really connected that to birth control. I mean, I'm Protestant. I never had
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any problem with birth control, practice birth control. But isn't that fine? I'm not even sure to
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think of it now. But I know what I think of people who are obsessed with preventing conception and
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Yeah. They're obsessed with it. And then they pretend that there's like no moral qualms about it.
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Well, they're obsessed with it. And they pretend that everyone else is like,
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you're obsessed with controlling women's bodies. No, I appreciate women's bodies. I don't really want
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It's stupid. But that's like, that's misdirection, of course.
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It's like putting it in, putting the debate in a place that they feel that they can have
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it safely. But like, if you were for it, and there are a limited number of people who I've
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heard make honest arguments. Like, yeah, it's extinguishing a human life. Like, a human life
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But I think it's worth it. They try and, at least that person is being honest about what's
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At least that's an honest conversation. Instead, with the left, that's just like, you'd be like,
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okay, we want to pass a law to prevent late-term abortions. No late-term abortions. Which,
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by the way, majority, the whole country agrees that no babies should be killed in the third
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trimester. That's a terrible time to do that. It's always a terrible time, but that's where
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Yes. And so what the left says is, oh, that never happens. Or they'll say, oh, it only
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happens in very rare, very rare circumstances where the life of the mother's on the line.
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Really? Because actually, that's bullshit.
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That's total bullshit. And the reason I know that is because the Guttmacher Institute,
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which is the leading gatherer of abortion statistics on behalf of the abortion industry,
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says that the majority of abortions that take place late-term are healthy babies, healthy mothers.
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Healthy babies, healthy mothers. The majority. Nobody knows this because the media doesn't tell
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you that. It oftentimes involves women who either didn't know they were pregnant, which suggests that
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they probably weren't all that healthy, physically healthy. Or it's women who dither on the
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question on whether or not they would get the abortion at all. They eventually, in a very late
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Or are pressured into it, which is a means for helping the worst kind of men in our country.
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And that's really, I mean, at its core, like if you really wanted to attack it,
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Women only have value to the extent they work for me at some bank.
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I mean, no one ever says the truth, which has to do with the labor. But women are amazing
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employees because they're more dutiful and reliable than men. And having had a lot of
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women work for me, I can say that. I worked in a business that was mostly women. And they're
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They're less distracted. They're more task-oriented.
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They actually do what they say they're going to do.
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You know what I mean? They don't space out and try to improvise midway through or get high
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You know, they just like women, just like my daughters as compared to my son. You know,
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they're just like, they do the job. And so it's great to have women work for you. And
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they're nice too, especially if you're a man. They're like, just, you just get along with
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It's great. And I love working with women. But there's a temptation, like if you were
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soulless, to want to encourage them, like not to have kids because they get in, that kids
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are a higher priority than your, whatever stupid job you're offering them.
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And so the labor market pushes this shit, this anti-fertility stuff on women, tells them
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it's liberation. And I'm sorry to say this, but a lot of them like don't think it through
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and they're like, yeah, it's liberation. It's sad. And, um, and that's how you wind up
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Yeah. There's, um, there's a, a group, I think it's based in DC.
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It's capitalism, Vince. We have to support it or else we're against free markets.
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There's a, there's a, there's a left-wing group in DC that's dedicated to this issue,
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Well, I support them because I agree with that.
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I think the PPAU, I think is where they got like a progressive anti-abortion union or
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something. And it, at its core is exactly the argument you're making, which is like,
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why are we telling women to be wage slaves?
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Like, why are we telling them that their most important purpose is corporate America?
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Like literally, like imagine, imagine if you had a window of time where you could perform
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magic in your life. Literally this, and the magic could only be performed during this like
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20 year window of time. And some company hired you and said, we'll hire you under this condition.
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You never use your magic. You never, never once will you be able to use this magic ability
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that you'll never be able to do again. You can never use it during the time that you work for us.
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Okay. In fact, we'll pay for you not to do it. And which is what they do. They do this to women
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and that they have this like, they have this incredible magic, miraculous ability. And we have
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huge sectors of our society dedicated to telling them, don't use it.
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And we think the spreadsheet's more important or you can create value for our stock.
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It's so unbelievable. And it's, what's interesting is I, I'm, I'm now, I'm sorry,
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I keep attacking Republicans. I plan to vote for them just to be clear. Don't have an option,
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but the number of Republicans who sort of leaders I'm talking about, not the voters
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by and large, but their leaders like totally buy into that. And they're like, I wish these,
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you know, pro-family, anti-abortion people, Christians would just shut up. Just shut up.
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Like, how does that help private equity or war against Iran?
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Do you know what I mean? Like they're, they, they totally agree with the left on these issues.
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I think part of it is like, they're too lazy to take the mental inventory necessary to make the
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arguments. I think that's part of it. Honestly, having met, I mean, you've, you've met way more
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of these guys than I have, but I've met a lot of them.
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And if it's not, if it's not an issue that's like in the headlines right now,
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there's not a lot of deep thoughts on the subject.
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You know, like they, there's not a lot of like existential thought thinking going on.
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Which is unfortunate. It's really unfortunate because the right, the, the normal, the normal
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American, which I love using, by the way, I just, I think the phrase normal is like the
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Because it really does reflect like what we are all thinking fundamentally.
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Normal people recognize the value that it's given to them and they feel awful for the
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people who've been sold the lies. And so we should just speak up for it. And you should,
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if you're a conservative politician, Republican politician, and you don't have a good argument
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against the death cult, one, you shouldn't be a politician. You should get out of the game
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entirely. But two, like, at least like sit down. Maybe, maybe have a wife, sit down with her and
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talk about it and like come up with some clear answers and then fight for what's right. And then
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fight to create a world where people don't feel like they need to kill a baby in order to thrive.
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I would like to see, I mean, maybe I'm getting less, I don't know, laissez-faire as I get older. But if you
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see the energy that went in to destroying the lives of all those middle-aged, diabetic,
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lower middle-class white Americans who went to defend the Constitution on January 6th, like really,
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As long as that machine exists, why not turn it on any company that encourages its female
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employees to, quote, freeze their eggs? There's something about that. Like any company that
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encourages women to work themselves to death in pursuit of some totally pointless goal like private
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equity or banking and then tells them, but we'll pay for you to freeze your eggs. Why don't we sick
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I don't know. I mean, it's like, sorry, I know I'm not supposed to say that, but I think that,
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like those are, like that's evil. That's totally evil. I mean, give up the one thing that really
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matters that will bring you joy in your age in exchange for some shitty job at Citibank.
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The January 6th thing is like, is the perfect, the perfect understanding way to, the perfect
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template for understanding all of this. Because remember in the wake of January 6th,
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that Washington Post article about how they were all in debt.
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It was the last piece of journalism that paper committed.
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It was like three or four days. It was, it was very close to January 6th.
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They did like a basic piece of journalism, like who are the people in the, in the crowd?
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And the answer to that question was that they were all in deep financial distress.
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Most of them. Not, not all of them, I guess, but a lot of them. They had bankruptcies and
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massive amounts of debt and were very, had a lot of financial discontent. And that was the last time
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I think that that paper treated them as humans. But at its core, what that story tells you is that
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they don't have the financial means to fight back. If you have the full weight of the federal
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government against you with a bottomless pit of resources, they can print their own money.
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There's no chance you who have declared bankruptcy are going to survive in the face of that. No
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matter how decent you were, no matter how few laws that you actually broke or whatever,
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it doesn't matter. You're going to be destroyed. But if you're Purdue Pharma,
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If you, to, to, to litigation, if you make opioids that kill people.
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Well, of course you'll still, the Sacklers are still billionaires.
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And then lie to them about that. Or, you know, if you're,
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heck, even Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was headed towards a settlement until like,
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there was a national uproar about it. And that guy, the 9-11 mastermind,
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how many years out are we from that? And we have January 6th grandmas who are serving years in
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prison. The guy with, the guy who you interviewed, Jacob Chansley, like years, like the sentences
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that these people have been given. Lives destroyed. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed still haven't
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resolved that. The 9-11 attacks. It's a crazy. Have we, um, so we, we got, uh,
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Kevin McCarthy, um, the former kind of mediocre speaker who is now much missed by me to, to,
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to, to give up some of the 9-11 footage, um, right before I got fired.
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Yeah. I was like, wow, that's a story. Tell me.
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Yeah, that is a story. Like why are there any 9-11 documents still classified? Like, what is that?
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Why are there any JFK documents still classified?
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Well, you know why. Yeah. To protect people who lied about those events. But anyway, back to
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January 6th. Sorry. Why are we going to have to wait, you know, 61 years to see the rest of the
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January 6th footage? It's been almost four years. Yeah.
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So why, why is the Republican speaker continuing to hold all this footage? Why not make it all public?
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Sometimes I think that they get so obsessed with controlling the storylines.
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Mm-hmm. They're not even good at it though. That's like the, but it's like, well, we can't
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let that become the story because that could be a cost to us. I'm like, I don't know. What is the
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evidence that you're great at this? Like, like, you know, what, what evidence should exist that
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demonstrates that you are the person that we should rely on to set the timeline for when the
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public finds out this stuff? Yeah. That's, it's idiotic. And, uh, yeah, I think I'd happen to believe
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that telling the truth is, uh, the most important thing because the more you do that, so long as you
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actually believe in our system as a place where the voters get to say, yeah, they have to have that
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in order to make those decisions. That's it. That's the whole ball game. You can't have democracy
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with censorship, period. Can I, can I, I know you don't want me to ask you too many questions,
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but let me ask you one at least. Um, the fact that they replaced Biden. Yeah. Made me a little bit
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hopeful that the election isn't quite as rigged as you might expect. In other words, they were so
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concerned that the voters really would have their say with Biden in office that they replaced him.
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They said, we can't, this is too much. And, and I, and I've, I've talked about this with friends on
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the right and some of them are under the opinion that, oh no, it was too obvious. Like they, so if
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they're going to rig the election, it'd be too obvious because nobody likes Biden and they don't
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want to give away entirely that it was rigged. That's kind of the, I think the way that they explain
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this away. I don't think, I think that's, I think that's wrong because the left is completely
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brazen about their lives. I don't, I don't think they would pause for a moment to be like,
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oh no, the public thinks it's rigged because Biden got reelected. I actually think that at least at
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this moment that voters kind of like the way Trump is saying, if they can make it too big to rig,
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they really do have a say right now, which is why the info war continues like the, the battle as Alex
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Jones says, but the battle over, um, the voters minds is still so intense. It suggests to me very
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strongly that the election system really does work at least to an extent.
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But I think that's true in any system. I mean, what's so striking to me is how just having traveled
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a lot and looked at a lot of different systems around the world is there really are no purely
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totalitarian countries or systems that never have been. I mean, Stalin, who is about as close to an
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absolute dictator Mao, same as the world has ever seen. Um, you know, both of those regimes spent
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a huge amount of time and money on propaganda, even though they had absolute power, they could
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kill anyone they wanted. So you, you really do end up ruling by consent, whether you want to or not,
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whether it's manufactured consent or legitimate consent, but you have to control people's brains.
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You can't just rule indefinitely at the point of a gun. So, um, you know, I'm not, I, I think you
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make a good point. I want the people in charge to at least try to convince me because that shows
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respect. Yeah. I'm not sure what is going on, to be honest with you. I mean, I haven't done
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hallucinogens in 35 years, but I'm getting that kind of weird, like dream sequence feeling about
00:34:39.040
American politics right now. Yes. I'm not quite sure what the hell is this? Well, you had Ben Carson
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on recently. Yeah. And he said something that stuck with me. I love Ben Carson. Yeah. He's a
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great human being. And, um, he's a, he's a, the perfect case study in the way that the media will
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destroy you as soon as you turn against their interests. Yes. Um, because Ben Carson was a
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celebrated neurosurgeon, pediatric neurosurgeon, uh, up until the moment. And to the point that it was in
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childhood curriculums to learn about Ben Carson's life in schools, and you'd read his book,
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gifted hands and learn all about him. They later made a famous, a Hollywood movie about his life.
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And the second he ran for politics, they cast him as a moron. He's an idiot. He's so stupid. He's,
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he messed up brain surgeries all the time, right? You started seeing all these like stories come out
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and then he was heralded by places like the New York times. And then of course, and then after that
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eviscerated the second he declared interest in Republican politics. And the second, especially that
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he spoke up on behalf of life. That was so on the God frequency though, as you know,
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I know you know him. He's like, it, it doesn't even, it doesn't, it doesn't bother him. He's got
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such a great attitude. I love it. It's infectious. So he said to you that this switcheroo that they
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just pulled off is a test of the media's ability to rig the election. That's right. Nicely put.
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And I love that. I love that because it's true and, uh, we're witnessing it right now. So my thought
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process is, and I wonder about you too, is that at what point does the media's ego get in the way of
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their partisan priorities? In other words, Kamala is refusing to do interviews. And right now their
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partisan priorities are to get her elected. But you and I both know these people in the press.
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And if there's one thing that might override their partisan priorities, it's their obsession with
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themselves to the point that like this drumbeat of like, why isn't she doing an interview?
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Why isn't she sitting down with CNN? Why isn't she sitting down with ABC? It's enough to be
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enticing. Yes. To the people in that world that they're like, you're beginning to see at least
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little murmurs of it. Like, oh, she, she should do an interview. Well, you know, the voters deserve
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that. You're beginning to see, I, I think that their egos may override their partisan priorities.
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I hope so. I hope. Though, I guess the kind of argument would be to work at a place like NBC News or
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CNN and I've worked at both, um, now requires total degradation, total. Like you can have no
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self-respect at all. Um, or you couldn't work there because you're being told to say things
00:37:08.980
that are obviously untrue to lie every single day. There's no dissent allowed. And your average adult
00:37:14.980
man wouldn't put up with that because it's like, well, I have opinions too. And as a, like a human
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being and not a slave, I get to express my opinions. No, you can't. I think that's an intolerable
00:37:24.000
work environment for anyone with, with any dignity at all. Therefore, the people who work there,
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um, most of whom I know, uh, they just don't have any dignity left. I mean, I hope I'm wrong.
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I want everyone to have dignity, but I don't see it. Do you? No, it's like very humiliating.
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It's so humiliating. Um, I work at CNN, really? Just the, the, the crimes of omission are really,
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they're just liars. It's, and then to like go on TV and then to treat people who would support
00:37:55.420
Trump with contempt, which they were doing like this very weekend. There's like the Sunday shows
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like we interviewed these people and they have no idea what they're talking about is basically
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like what? I know. And you do living like this absurdly pampered life, like completely away from
00:38:09.700
all of the problems that these people have very real problems. I saw, I saw Don Lamont is running
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around right now. He's doing man on the street interviews. That's his latest iteration. For
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whom? For Don Lamont. It's his DL on his microphone. For his own. On his microphone. I haven't talked
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to Don in a while. I had high hopes for Don, but he learned nothing. I know you did. I know you did.
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Because you're good about that. But when he was, when he was talking to these. We got fired the same
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day. Yeah, I know. I called him right away. But yeah, I call everyone when they're fired, period.
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But yeah, he, Don, I, I wanted him. Because usually getting fired, you know, you learn something about
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yourself. Sure. It's humbling. It's so important to be fired regularly, I would say, especially if
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you're arrogant like I am. So I've really enjoyed getting fired, but, and I thought this will be
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totally good for Don. It'll be totally good for me, which it was. And, but Don didn't seem to even
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pause. No. And I, the giveaway was his interview with Elon Musk. It was a total disaster because he
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refused to take any inventory of his priors. It was entirely a political, like partisan talking
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points exercise. It was really embarrassing, actually, because if Don Lemon, I want to get
00:39:24.820
back to his man on the street thing in a minute, but Don Lemon, like a decade ago, was willing to say
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things on television that his network didn't agree with. Yes. And there's like this famous Morgan
00:39:34.360
Freeman interview he did where the two of them were sitting around talking about how obsessing over
00:39:39.420
race actually exacerbates racial division in the country. That's for sure. And we should stop doing
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that. That's what the two of them sitting there agreeing on that subject. I was like, what happened
00:39:46.460
to that guy? He just, he just sold out, I guess. I, it is from and far, I don't know him. But how can you
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get fired if you're Don Lemon and you get, you know, you're hired at CNN, you're gay,
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you're black, you obviously can never be fired, obviously, because you can't fire someone in
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those categories. Ask anyone who runs a business. You can't, you're afraid to. And they fire you
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anyway. Then at least part of you has to think like, how did I get fired? Like, what did I do
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wrong? I must've played some role in this. They suck. Okay, that's fine. I hate my bosses. They
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humiliate me. You know, I'm mad at them. I get it. I've certainly been there. But come on, it's like a
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marriage. Like if it, if it blows up, each side has some culpability. What's mine? Like,
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what did I do wrong? That's true. I don't think he even, I, and I had a long conversation with him
00:40:33.640
on the phone. I should have said, Don, you know, you've got good, I think Don has good qualities,
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great qualities for TV, actually. And I told him that, but you should just really pause and ask
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yourself. Like, yes, CNN sucks. I can confirm that as a former employee, but you kind of suck
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too. So that's what fired people have to ask themselves, but he never did. Well, the underlying
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question for, at least for me watching from the outside was, okay, so now he's free. He doesn't
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have anybody telling him what he, what he has to say. It's so great. The script is gone and there's
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nobody, there's no advertisers for you to, in fact, you can build your own. You have to do that whole
00:41:13.500
world. And he stuck to the script. I was like, oh, so I guess he truly believes this nonsense.
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And that's gets to this man on the street. He's talking to people like all across, I guess,
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across the country. He's going to different places or beach communities that he's staying in. And he
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just happens to put a microphone in people's faces. I'm not sure, but he's talking to people
00:41:29.520
and he's asking them who you're supporting. And he's getting a lot of people saying, Trump,
00:41:33.340
voting for Trump. And a lot of black people responding, I'm voting for Trump. And in one,
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he confronts the guy who says, uh, I was better off financially under Trump. And he says, that's
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not true. Don, that's not true. No, you were, you were happier. He's like, uh, Trump wasn't
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president. He's like fact check, false, a fact check, uh, false. Like did he actually, he didn't
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say the words fact check false, but he virtually did it. He was like, no, no, no. Things are much
00:42:00.000
better now economically. And you're like, what world is he living in? And, and, you know, I guess
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in some sense it's definitely, I guess he buys into the facade. If he, if he, if he, if he truly
00:42:12.000
believes that he buys into the facade, because like this, all this conversation about the economy,
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The Greeks invented democracy. So if you like democracy, you're Greek. If you've ever voted for
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a candidate, voted someone off an island, left work early to go to the polls, or lied about going to the
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polls so you could leave work early, that's good enough. You're Greek. So eat like it. That means
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ordering delicious and fresh chicken souvlaki with tzatziki from Jimmy the Greek. You deserve it,
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you pillar of democracy, you. You're Greek. Eat like it with Jimmy the Greek. Hashtag gimme jimmy.
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No, but can I just ask, even like economic analysis aside, the arrogance required to look
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into someone's face and disagree with his own assessment of his financials? Like, no, actually,
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no, actually, we've never met before. But what you just told me about your life is not true.
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It can't be true. It's like, shut up and listen. Just listen to people for a second. Like it's,
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first of all, it's kind of fun. Second, you learn a lot. And, but how arrogant would you have to be
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not to listen? Just ask a few questions and then bounce your own assumptions off them and see what
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they say. Vince, I know you, you told me that you were diagnosed with cancer recently,
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but you don't have cancer. We've never met. I'm not a physician, but I just want to say you don't
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have cancer. Silly man. That's right. That would be true. That'd be true if I met Cori Bush, right?
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She has healing hands. You ever, you know that story? No, what, wait, stop. What's, wait,
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Cori Bush has healing hands? Cori Bush is convinced that she has the ability to heal
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illnesses with her hands. Okay. She just placed her hands on you and you're healed.
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Uh, she said, I believe that that exists. She, no, but Cori Bush specifically has this power
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and she's been holding out on us, I think, uh, because Cori Bush, the Congress, the Congresswoman
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just got beaten in the primary. There's like a lot of, there's a lot of illness all across the
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country. Why is she wasting her time? Not healing it. Yeah. What is she doing in a committee meeting
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when she could be fixing pancreatic? I mean, I thought, yeah, I thought Biden's whole thing was
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like curing cancer of the moonshot initiative. Hello, we've got Cori Bush. Yeah. Hello. Cancer rates
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skyrocketed under Biden. Quite incredible. Yeah. Amazing. Wow. So Don is doing a, sorry,
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just to close out the Don Lamont conversation. He was highly annoyed. He told me that I called
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him Don Lamont. I thought it was hilarious. And by the way, I said it with affection.
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Uh-huh. Mr. Lamont is here. Yeah. He always reminded me of Ricardo Montalban
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and Fantasy Island. Welcome to Fantasy Island. It's a better, it is a better pronunciation.
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I just always pictured him in like an ascot, like roll with it, like be who you are. You know what I mean?
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Totally. He had a kind of Suave Bolo vibe to him that I found hilarious and kind of charming.
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And just be that guy. Don't give me a lecture about journalism. You have no idea what it is.
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You've never practiced it. Just like be your kind of 70s self. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Whatever. But what is, who is he working for now? I have no idea. I don't know how much money he's
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generating or what, but I guess it's kind of funny because he was, he's like complaining about his
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relationship with Elon Musk and he thought he had some arrangement. I don't even know what that means.
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But he's still producing content and posting it to X. So, whatever.
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I, my feeling was, and again, I haven't called him, I should, is that he was kind of running out
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of options. Again, if you're Don Lamont and you get fired from CNN, like how hard would that be?
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I mean, how many times did the HR department say when he was hassling female employees, for example,
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like, yeah, we can't, we can't fire this guy. I'm sorry. Like it had to have been pretty bad.
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So what, um, Biden's talking tonight at the DNC, what's he going to say?
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I know what he's not going to say, which is he's not going to hold everything that happened
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against, uh, to him against his own party. He's not going to take it out on them. He is
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suffering the latest indignity to his presidency, which is the sitting president of the United
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States is speaking on night one of the Democrat convention. That's as humiliating as it gets.
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You're so right. It's low. It's the lowest billing place they can put him. They want
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to get it done and over with. So people don't think about him for the rest of the week.
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It's the whole thing. And, you know, and they're dressing it up as, oh, it's a theme. You know,
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we have him first and then Obama second and Clinton third. And, uh, and then Kamala finishes
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things off. This is what they want to leave you with. But realistically, you understand the
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tactics here. It's like, they want to bury this. They know they've got to feature him,
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but they want to bury it on night. If the DNC was a fancy restaurant, Biden would be seated
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right next to the men's room. For sure. That is not a fashionable table. He's in the last row
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and coach. I know, totally. Really upset that there's a line for the bathroom next to him.
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He's in a middle seat. Yeah, that's, I know it's such a good point. But, um, well, I mean,
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he deserves it and so much more and he'll get, he'll get what he deserves. But, um, like it does
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seem like prerequisite for party membership is being willing to set aside your own interests,
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your own self-respect, your own dignity on behalf of the collective.
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Yeah. I mean, how bitter do you think he is about this in real life?
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I don't know. I don't know to what extent he's capable of complex emotions or thoughts like that,
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um, at this stage because he is impaired. But I, I know pretty certainly that his wife and his
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son and his daughter, uh, you know, feel the sting. I mean, how could they not?
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Guy's president of the United States. He, is he still, he is still president, right?
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But then Obama stabbed him in the back, uh, and in the front and, you know, Nancy Pelosi stabbed him.
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They all did. They swooped in and they, and they took him out and they're not really ashamed of it at
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all. They're like, they're, they're pretty nakedly brazen about it. Uh, and that's, and that's what we're
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left with. And like, it is so fundamentally at its core, anti-democratic. It's not about at all
00:50:36.340
the, about the consent of the governed. In fact, the primary itself was rigged. I mean, Biden should
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have never even been on their primary ballot. The voters, 14 million, which is not that many
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people, but 14 million people registered the thoughts on the subject. And they said, we're
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with Biden. But again, it was, it was rigged. They kept everybody else off the ballot. They wanted
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to keep RFK away from it. And Dean Phillips and anybody who would possibly even deter from,
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from Biden gathering. My pal, Jill Stein. Yeah. Jill Stein. All of them. But can I just
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ask just, um, like about the nature of the democratic party? It's, I don't vote Democrat
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because I don't agree with them on most things. Well, now I don't agree with them on anything.
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Uh, but really I don't vote Democrat because I don't understand like the requirements for
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membership. Like you've got a couple of brothers, parents, wife, child, you know, you've got a very,
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I know your family, very close family. If somebody said, you know, in order to remain a conservative
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or a publican or a radio show host in good standing, you have to denounce your brother,
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Fred. Not a chance. Like, I think you'd die before you did that. Not a chance in the world. Right.
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That's right. Not a chance. If they told me to reject the tenants of my faith, I wouldn't.
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If they told me to attack my family, I wouldn't. Under any circumstance. No. In fact, that courtesy,
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that, that obligation extends to the people I care about who aren't my family members. Me too.
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Me too. So that's like. So personal loyalty is more important to you. Love is more important to
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you than any human made structure. Correct? A hundred percent. Right. A hundred percent.
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But that's not true for partisan Democrats. It's not true in the Biden family.
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Just look at what they did with Joe. I know. I don't,
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there's no circumstance where I let my senile grandfather like run the country. Yes.
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Nevertheless, drive a car. I know. You know, you take away his license and you figure out how to
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take care of him. How many people do you know where as they had relative advanced to like really late
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stage of losing their faculties, they had to take their guns away or like take their license away.
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That's right. It's a super difficult conversation. Oh, yeah.
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But it's one that's done out of immense love. It's really hard. And that's not, that's not what
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happened here. Instead, we all got stuck with the liabilities, the country that is. And, you know,
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I do think that obviously crystal clear, as you've said for so long, and I've been saying a long time,
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there's a lot of string pulling going on with Biden. Yeah.
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You're supposed to comfort yourself with this notion that somebody else is actually running
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the show. Don't worry. The senile guy's not. But I actually think the most dangerous answer is that
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he is in charge of some things. And I think some of the chaos we've seen is the result of that.
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I think Afghanistan in a big way was probably as a result of his senility. The fact that we lost all
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those people, 13, and then he gets there to that dignified transfer of remains, which should be a
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dignified transfer of remains in Delaware and doesn't for a moment give them the decency that
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they deserve in light of his decisions. Talks about himself and his own son who died in a rock
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in a firefight. Yeah. Ignores them, stares at his watch. It's some of the most offensive things that
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any of us have ever seen. Well, he did something that I saw personally up close several years ago
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before he ran that I thought was one of the lowest things I've ever seen. He had this daughter-in-law,
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his son, Hunter's wife, who I thought was a great person. I thought she was a great person.
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And he winds up having an affair with his sister-in-law. And, you know, obviously this
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is devastating to his wife and three children. You know, but these things, you know, whatever,
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I'm trying to judge, but it's a big deal, right? And it's a big deal in the neighborhood that we live
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in in DC at the time. And Joe Biden in his horrible, disgusting, ludicrous, fake doctor
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wife, issue this statement saying, we support Hunter and his new love, you know, our deceased
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son's widow. And don't even mention his daughter-in-law, who has been a loyal family member
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for over 20 years, has traveled a lot with Joe Biden because his wife didn't want to go with him.
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I saw this. And, you know, Kathleen Biden's like the mother of their three grandchildren. Like,
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this is not my business, someone else's family. Okay. I generally try not to judge these things,
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but he issues a public statement saying we're on the new chick side. Well, what about this girl
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was your daughter? I have a daughter-in-law. Like, I know that's a really intense and important
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relationship in a family, particularly the father and his daughter-in-law. The mother of your
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grandchildren? Are you joking? Yeah. And they just ignore her like she never existed?
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I thought, I was so offended by that. I just couldn't believe a man would do that.
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But then they reiterated it with London Roberts. She's been a loyal, good daughter-in-law.
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They did the same thing with London Roberts and her daughter, Navy Joan. You know, they,
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Hunter's daughter, you know, just ignoring her existence, not even like, like actually going out
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of their way to insult her existence with the whole like stockings thing at Christmas. Like,
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they won't even hang her name up. They refuse to acknowledge she exists. And to this day,
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I just talked to London Roberts not long ago. We interviewed her. She had, she put a book out
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about the subject and it's kind of, she still wants to kind of earn her way into their world.
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I think that's the impression I got. And I, I don't think she should bother with that at all
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because like, they've been pretty clear about what they think of her and the family.
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How could you do that? How could you do that? William F. Buckley did that. His son had an
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illegitimate child, his grandson. And William F. Buckley in his will said, I'm not, you know,
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no money for him. If I'm remembering this correctly and I'm sorry, I know everyone
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reveres William F. Buckley, but I just, I, I lost all respect. I have no respect for that at all. If
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you, it's your child or grandchild, like that's really important. The grandchild's innocent.
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Well, I totally agree. And your blood. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I don't get, it's a big deal.
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It's so sidetracked, but like, I think Joe Biden is actually a really rotten person,
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I guess is what I'm saying. I hate to say that. And I think it matters. So what sort of person you are.
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I do. Everyone's like, Oh, it doesn't matter. What matters to me. Yeah, it does matter. And all
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of the, like the, the, you know, and Trump is a complicated person, of course, and he's got,
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he has moral failings, no question. But the lies that we're constantly told about his moral failings
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are like absurd. Like the idea that he's like trying to personally profit off of the presidency,
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like all of the available evidence, uh, uh, like demonstrates the complete opposite. Like he's
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lost billions of dollars in net worth by doing it. It's endless hassle, endless litigation,
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and like, like I, what deal has existed that has enriched him as a result of having been in the
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president? Well, he's gotten a lot poorer for sure. Um, does feel to me like he's going to go to jail
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if he doesn't win. They're going to put him in jail. They're very desperate for that. Are they going
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to put him in jail before? I keep hearing people keep sending me this stuff. That sentencing date
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is mid-September. That's correct. The 18th, I think. And, um, they really want to. I, I, uh,
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this will come down to, I think, a political assessment because they don't want to martyr
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him ahead of it. So the, so. Putting a man in jail two months, what, you know, eight weeks before a
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presidential election? No, that's right. On fake charges? That's right. But that, that judge,
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remember, he kept threatening him with all these gag orders and saying, oh, you violated it,
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violated it, but he never quite put him in jail, even though he was constantly hanging that thread
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out there. I think it's because they became aware during the trial that this was backfiring
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politically. So it wasn't just Biden self-immolating. It was that the public started
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becoming convinced that Trump really is a victim of a rigged system. And that was showing up in the
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polls throughout that process. And so they have to be cognizant of this. Now I won't put it past them
00:58:18.540
to do something tyrannical that's against their political interests because they have this
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overriding desire. They can't control themselves. Yeah. But it's one of the factors. It's so
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unfortunate that that's it. That's what it's all about. It's hard to believe. Yeah. I, I, I guess
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this is the disadvantage, as I said earlier, of age. It's like, I, I refuse to believe that could even
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happen in the United States. But if it did, I think we could wind up. I mean, that close to the
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election. I don't know if they'll do it, but this is, here's the thing that still amazes me.
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July 13th, Trump was shot in the head this year, in case you were forgetting. The news cycle lasted
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maybe a week, maybe two on that subject. And it's evaporated. It's gone. Do you, I mean,
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I was, I know how quickly news cycles move. So I, I, and the, and the desire not to talk about that.
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I could, I could smell it coming a thousand miles away. I knew that they would move on.
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Well, the Trump people didn't want to talk about it, to be honest, but Biden's secret service allowed
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Trump to get shot in the face. They allowed it whether, you know, intentionally or not. So like,
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why is that not the biggest story in the world? But you would think it would be the biggest story
00:59:24.360
all the way through the election. Like in, like in once again, normal America, if a presidential
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candidate gets shot in the head, you would think that the overflowing of sympathy and certainly all
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of the media attention on that subject would basically put them on a glide path to the election
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that for the remainder of the election, which is not that much time left, that we'd be litigating
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all of this. How did this happen? How do we prevent it from happening? Why did somebody shoot
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Trump? The underlying motivations. Have you noticed like there's no conversation about that anymore?
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The motive, the motive question disappeared in like five seconds. It was like the Vegas shooter.
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It disappeared. Well, he was just your average 20 year old with no social media profile whatsoever.
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No motive at all. No one helped him do it. Um, and you know, there was no real security failure
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at all. You just couldn't put an agent on a roof with a pitch that steep. It's just, it's pretty,
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pretty conventional stuff. 140 yards from the, from the stage. Yeah. Um, but you saw the Biden
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administration allow an assassination attempt to shooting and that's just a, that's a fact.
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They allowed that. And again, I'm not saying they did it on purpose. Seems pretty clear they did.
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How could that not be on purpose? But I don't have any proof of that, but they, they allowed it.
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We can say that conclusively and no one ever mentioned it again. And, and Republicans don't
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mention it. I don't understand why. One of the ways I think that they allowed it, one of the,
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because once you're knocking on really important doors and like, if you start opening a bunch of
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them, eventually you get to a place you're like, man, this is really dark. What we just saw.
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It's so dark. I agree. Um, I think one place that I've been in is that the Biden administration,
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um, is ruthless in, in how they wield the government politically, as we know, with the United States
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Department of Justice. And they, they resent the fact that Trump gets secret service protection at
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all. They hate that they have to give him by virtue of the law as a former president, secret service
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protection. So to the extent that they give him anything, they're just like, whatever, we'll send
01:01:21.740
him something, but protecting him, not a priority, protecting Dr. Jill, when she's doing an event in
01:01:27.420
Pittsburgh and an indoor arena, just down the road from Trump, uh, you know, it, in a, in a really
01:01:31.640
sophisticated way with all the teams necessary to protect her and going above and beyond a hundred
01:01:36.300
percent, we'll do that. Yeah. The repulsive fake Dr. Harpy wife gets all the bodyguards she wants,
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but, but the candidate doesn't. But the secret service director that she handpicked for the role,
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Kim Cheadle, because Kim Cheadle served on Jill Biden's detail when she was in the white house
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originally with, uh, when Joe Biden was vice president. So, so, so they choose Kim Cheadle to
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run the show. The last thing they're going to do is concern themselves with how safe is Trump and
01:02:02.380
should we give him what he needs? Screw that guy. We'll give him the bare minimum. Meanwhile,
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if in case you're looking for evidence that Biden and Jill and the secret service are political,
01:02:12.900
look no further than RFK. RFK asked for secret service protection because he's from the most
01:02:18.000
assassinated family in American political history. And because there's actual threats to his life and
01:02:22.620
he actually needs it in order to conduct a presidential campaign, but because they were,
01:02:27.000
they were so petty that they didn't want to dignify his campaign as real. They refuse to give him secret
01:02:32.900
service protection merely because they didn't want to give him the visual of being considered a
01:02:38.120
presidential candidate. That's it. They were just like, screw that guy. So they're making all these
01:02:42.200
political considerations. They refuse to give RFK protection. And then Trump, they barely give him,
01:02:46.720
they give him the B squad and he gets shot in the head. That's one interpretation of events.
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Yeah. Here are a couple of fat girls who don't know how to operate a firearm.
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Most of us, well, actually all of us go through our daily lives using all sorts of quote,
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Think about it for a minute. Think about your free email account, the free messenger system used to
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It's all free, but is it? No, it's not free. These companies aren't developing expensive products
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and just giving them to you because they love you. They're doing it because their programs take all
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your information. They hoover up your data, private personal data and sell it to data brokers
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and the government. And all of those people who are not your friends are very interested in
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manipulating you and your personal political and financial decisions. It's scary as hell.
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And it's happening out in the open without anybody saying anything about it.
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This is a huge problem. And we've been talking about this problem to our friend,
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Yeah, it is. It's so overwhelming that, um, because if you live in a country where the secret
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service is corrupted and we clearly do live in that country, then it's like at that point,
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you know, that's a life or death thing. You know, that's not the education department. That's a,
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They investigate who left cocaine at the white house and then they destroy the evidence within
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weeks. And they say, the investigation's closed. There's no chance we'll ever get to the bottom of
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it. They destroyed it. They didn't keep it. I mean, how much cocaine could they possibly have had?
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It's not like they were running out of real estate. Like just keep it in the evidence room. You know,
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we can keep this for a while. We'll keep the case open. We'll see if we can get some answers.
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Yeah. It tells you that, um, like maybe the one, the agencies that can never be corrupted,
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no matter what, that have to remain as pure as any government agency can remain pure,
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um, have been totally, you know, so that would include, I'm sorry to say it in your presence.
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I know you're a product of military family, but DOD. Yeah. FBI and secret service. And of course,
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CIA and DIA. And they're working really hard to do it to the Supreme court right now.
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They're working very hard to corrupt that institution because it's not serving their power
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interests, at least not to the extent that they want it to. And, uh, so that needs to be corrupted
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too. It's a, it's a virus and it just, it just keeps on spreading. It just keeps spreading.
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And now they're using Kamala as the vehicle for all of this. And she is so dumb. She's shockingly
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dumb. Is she? You can tell. Can't you tell? Well, she, she seems, um, well, she's dumb in a,
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in a, in a, in a, she's socially dumb. She, she doesn't know how to communicate with people.
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Yes. Like human beings are alien to her. Yes. And she really doesn't have time for them.
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And she, she tries to figure out a way to condescend to them. And then she just ends up
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speaking in circles. Yes. Because she doesn't actually know how to communicate.
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Well, she kissed her husband with a mask on and, you know, as a married person, I looked
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at that and I was like, I, there's, there's kind of no explaining that, you know, that is
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sort of the end of any potential respect I had for you. Kiss your husband with a mask
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on. Tim Walls shakes his wife's hand on stage. Well, Tim Walls, I mean, you know, yeah, come
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on now. Walls out for Kamala. No. Yeah. I mean, Tim Walls. I'm sorry. Uh, that, that it's
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so, it's so funny to live in a society where you have to like deny obvious things. I look
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at Tim Walls, I'm like, Oh, I know exactly who you are. Like instantly, like instantly I
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went to boarding school. I know who Tim Walls is, um, big time. And you can't, I mean, I actually
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don't, I know I have zero actual evidence, but having spent four years in a New England boarding
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school in the eighties, like I, you know, his type, are you kidding? Oh yes. Oh, I
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had a couple of doormasters like Tim Walls for sure. Um, show up in your room late night
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drunk to talk about stuff. Yeah. Um, you know, he's like, he's like, he's absurd. He's a
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cartoon character in so many ways. A tyrannical cartoon character. I, well, of course. So like
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he did, he did start the gay club at his high school. Oh, I'm very aware of that. He started
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the, you know, what was it? Gay Straight Alliance. Gay Straight Alliance. Yeah. Totally
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normal. He was the, um, he, you know, he was just, he was just sick of bullying. You
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know, he just couldn't, he couldn't handle the bullying. Yeah. Yeah. He was just pretty
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sure. It's just so funny. That's funny for a guy who shot his own residence with paint
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balls for standing on their Porsche. Uh huh. And that's the, who's, who established a snitch
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line during COVID for noncompliance with. It's all of a, it's all of a piece. I would
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say it's all very consistent with what, I mean, I remember, oh, I could tell you stories.
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It was, you know, whatever. I can't even get into this. But the bottom line is I look at
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Tim Walls and I'm like, I know exactly, you could have been a, you could have been the
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doormaster on my hall in 1984, you know, getting all the boys to let's go boxing Sunday morning.
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Here's a, here's our special athletic supporter that, you know, you have to wear. Um. But he's
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a very deceptive human being. Oh. Like everything about him is. Does anyone else notice this about
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Tim Walls? I mean, is this. Again, I, I shouldn't. I'm probably way over my skis. I have zero
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evidence other than just what seems clear. Like I, what's some of the best advice I ever got,
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which has turned out to be true all these decades later from a really wise person. It's like,
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trust your instincts on people. Like. Okay. I mean, he allowed American cities to burn to the
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ground. I think you can mock him a little bit. I think that's allowed for being. I know you just
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hate to say things that you can't, I'm, I'm, I'm doing heavy implication here, but the guy,
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there's something wrong with the guy. I guess that's just really obvious. Does it,
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does it matter? He's the running mate. He's the beta. He's in the bitch seat. Does it actually
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matter politically? Probably not. Maybe, but maybe it does. I just don't want somebody working
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out their issues while trying to take charge of the country. The whole thing. These people are
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all freaks. There's not like one person who has a normal, happy, personal life. Like, and by the way,
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there are very few on the Republican side. Very J.D. Vance is one of them, which is one of the reasons I was
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so enthusiastic. The guy was a pretty normal guy actually, but I think it really matters. If you don't,
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if you don't go home to some normal relationship, it's based on love and respect and honesty.
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If you're kissing your husband with a mask on or shaking hands with your wife,
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you're a freak. And I feel sorry for you, but no, you can't have power. No power for you. Freak.
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That's how I feel. This, uh, this weekend, they, uh, put Kamala in some like,
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like small test unscripted moments. Like, let's see what she can do with this, you know? And it all
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went disastrously. Uh, but one of them was that she was in Pennsylvania. She stopped at a Sheetz
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gas station. Now when I think Sheetz, I think it's basically, you know, like a Wawa, like it's a
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touchscreen sandwich shop. You know, you go and you enter your order and then the sandwich show up a
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few minutes later. Somebody makes it for you. I thought it was a gas station. Yeah, it's a gas
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station, but fundamentally on the inside, if you're going to visit the indoors of it, you'll get your
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sandwich there on the touchscreen. Yeah. Everyone, anyone who lives near a Sheetz knows that that's
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what it's worth. That's what you do. Kamala Harris goes into the Sheetz gas station. She brings her
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husband and, uh, she brings Tim Walls, phony Tim Walls. And, uh, they go in together and what does
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she shop for? A bag of Doritos. She's like, she walks in there like, what are you getting? What
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are you getting? And she's like, Doritos, she says. And she walks around like she has no idea where the
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chips are. She's like staring all around the store. She has no idea. And her husband grabs it
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and she goes, Oh, Dougie. And she reaches and she grabs the bag. She pulls them away. She's like,
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I'll take those. And she rips them out of her hand, rips, rips the Doritos out of his hands.
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And then, and then cackles. And she walks off. Everything about it felt so completely unnatural
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and controlled. Well, I think it's, I mean, I've only been to Sheetz a few times, but the one thing
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I remember about Sheetz, they have one of the world's second to Bucky's, but one of the world's
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largest selections of chewing tobacco, every kind of dip like ever, including like some you've never,
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you know, pomegranate flavored or whatever. I always buy a 10 or two there. I don't know how
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you could pass by the extensive snuff selection to buy Doritos. Like that itself is disqualifying.
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Yeah. And they're not even cool ranch. Like they were regular Doritos. Like if, if I've,
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I'm not a Doritos person, but I know Doritos aficionados. Yeah. They're all cool ranch people.
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Are they? I totally believe that. Like the regular Doritos, like what a poser. And she has no idea what
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she's doing. And by the way, you're making me think, I want to see her in Bucky's. I want to see
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the Kamala Harris Bucky's fusion experience. I'd love to.
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I doubt there are many people in Bucky's. Bucky's is a truck stop in Texas. I think it's moved to
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Florida now. It's all over the place now. Right. And they have more gas station bays than any other
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conventional gas station. And the cleanest bathrooms, most famously a candy selection.
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I was in there late night. You can buy artwork in the bathrooms. For real? Yeah. The walls of the,
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leading into all the bathrooms, they have artwork on the wall with prices. So when you're in the
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bathroom, you can choose art and buy it off the wall. Wow. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's a cool
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place. They make beef jerky and all the fudge you could possibly eat and all the barbecue you could
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possibly have. Tell me about it. I was in a Bucky's. We were doing a book tour in like 2018,
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maybe. And I was on the road. Emily Lynn is sitting right there. And we, I had the driver pull over
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into Bucky's like three in the morning. We're driving from like Dallas to Houston. Yeah. And no one had been
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to Bucky's. And I was like, Bucky's is the greatest. Cause I love, I always buy all the
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weird chewing tobacco there. So we're wandering through Bucky's and, um, I get to the candy
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area. I love candy. Yeah. And. And they have like old fashioned candy. They've got like walls.
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I was going, and I, they had like a thing, like malted milk balls. Yeah. It was like $4 for
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four pounds. And I'm getting this thing and Emily comes up and takes my arm and she's like,
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I think that's enough. I was like, thank God you're here. No, you do need, that's true. You
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do need a woman in your body. You do, you do. You totally do. Impose restraint upon you. You totally
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do. My wife was like kind of rushing me out. I'm like, but wait, there's like, and you could buy
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like housewares there. Oh, I do 100%. So, and then I would get distracted. Mesquite, barbecue, charcoal.
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I mean, it's just. And I had my dog in the car with me. We were traveling and, uh, we just,
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this past week or so. And, uh, we were, we were going to, you know, when you have a dog in the
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car, you put a water bowl, usually like outside the vehicle, like on the ground and let the dog
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drink. And, uh, I didn't need to, cause Bucky's had a water fountain for dogs. Like they had a
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regular water fountain and right on the ground, they had a little unit for dogs. So you could just
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get the water fountain going and the dog can drink right from there. I was like. So that's the,
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okay. Bucky's is the kind of capitalism we were promised. Yeah. And BlackRock is the kind that we got.
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Right. And I feel, let's get, let's get more Bucky's, less BlackRock. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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Someplace that you enjoy going that doesn't sap your soul when you're there. That is interested
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in what you want is trying to serve you in some way. Yeah. You know, is not like buying every house
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on your street and turning them into rentals or like really wrecking your life. Well, they have a
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Chick-fil-A style enthusiasm. Yes. So when you walk in, they say hello and they like. But wasn't that the
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whole point of market capitalism? It was going to serve what people wanted. It was going to respond
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to the needs and desires of the population. Yeah. Not redefine them. And actually what you,
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you don't want grandchildren. You want a trans kid. Yeah. Like, I don't know how we got there.
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You don't, no, you don't, you don't want that fence. What you want is density in your neighborhood.
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You want public housing on your street. You want that. And if you don't want that, you're a racist.
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Right. Right. Like that's actually what we got. Yeah. Yeah. We got gay race communism,
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but it was supposed to be Buc-ee's with like super clean bathrooms and dog water fountains and
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like massive malted milk ball supplies and like every kind of dip. Not just, you know,
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Skoll and Copenhagen, but like getting into the serious esoteric chewing. That's right.
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A chewing tobacco for every man. Yeah. With no lecturing about it either.
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No, not at all. Yeah. I'd like the kiwi fruit. Yeah. Okay. Coming right up, sir.
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That's awesome. That is awesome. And, and no, no judgment. I mean, yeah, it's, I don't know. I mean,
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you talk about this a lot, but I just spent the last almost two weeks driving through most of East
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coast America. I was all the way up from, from Maine to Florida back and forth. Did you really?
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Yeah. And what did you think? I, I felt sadness for a lot of what I saw for, well, actually I'm,
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I love the country. So I found so much of it to be beautiful.
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And you grew up, your dad was in Marine Crofts or you grew up everywhere.
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Yeah. Most of the East coast. Hawaii was our one detour away from that. Um, but almost the East
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coast my entire life. And, um, but the country is beautiful. I love driving through it. I love
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seeing how much, you know, so much land and there's so much to drive through and, um, really
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neat and, and, and cool people. Uh, but then like you see so many communities where things are like
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Like all of the elements get through your home. You know, the, the roofs are falling apart.
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You know, the water clearly must pour in every time it rains.
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Oh, so it's not, it's not just you like saw junkies at a gas station. It's like you saw people
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Like pot, like actual poverty. If there's a hole in your roof, you're impoverished.
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You know, you've got some, you got a real issue. Like you live in a death trap. So,
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um, yeah, there's a lot of that out there. And should you, if you.
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And I saw, by the way, in a lot of those yards, I saw Trump flex.
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So we're paying for the pensions that were guaranteed retirement of bureaucrats in the
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Ukraine who work for the corrupt government of Ukraine run by the anti-American, anti-Christian
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But we're paying for businesses in Ukraine to stay open.
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Yeah. I'm almost, I, I, I gotta go back to my notes, but I had a, um, I had a piece a
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while ago about this and I keep notes every day for my radio show. And I remember I shared
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this on the air that we were paying, I think subsidies to keep small businesses open in
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Ukraine. So yeah, we're paying for everything.
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Yeah. It's so grotesque. It's hard to metabolize it, but you drove through our own country in
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the last two weeks and you see people who don't have patched roofs.
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Yeah. Yeah. And so like the country's not doing well is a, is a, an understatement.
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Um, and there's lots of people who are suffering and that's why, you know, we kind of glanced
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off of the economic discussion earlier, but I really think it matters that we are at a
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point right now where, where the country is at over a trillion dollars in credit card
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debt. This is, this is a record and we've never had this much credit card debt in our
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nation's history. And credit card debt is totally destructive. Um, you're looking at,
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Yeah. On, on these. And, um, that means, you know, people are being destroyed and they
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can't make ends meet. The unemployment numbers are all a scam with that.
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Wait, can I just ask like, we, we used to put people in prison back when the mafia was
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offering loans at lower interest rates than those.
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Yeah. That the, yeah. Usury and loan sharking, we called it.
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And all these sort of nice Italian guys wound up in jail.
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Yeah. But it's cool when the credit card companies do that. How does that work?
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The answer, Joe Biden, the Senator from Delaware making that happen.
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Yeah. Um, that, that's how that works. Uh, but people are in massive, massive debt and
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the unemployment numbers are a scam because, um, really what they represent is that there
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are people working multiple part-time jobs to make ends meet. That's what that means.
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So all this stuff about like, oh, unemployment is slow. No, it's not. People are working multiple
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jobs in order to pay for just how expensive their lives have been.
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And all the employment gains have been among immigrants. All of them.
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Zero, net, I mean, net, zero gains among native-born Americans.
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Immigrants, foreign-born workers gaining all. So it's, uh, you know, and my cousin E.J.
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Antony is, I think, the single best economist on this subject.
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And he's just been amazing on it. And, and, uh, he's not. All of the available evidence
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demonstrates he's right. And no American needs a government report to tell them that they're
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miserable, by the way. I love that the media sort of waits for unemployment reports to tell,
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like Don Lemon, like telling you, you shouldn't be miserable. No, the data says not that you're
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not miserable. You're fine. Like what? Those, all of that government stuff is one cooked and
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two, a trailing indicator of what's actually happening.
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Um, but a drive from, where did you go? Like you went from where to where in the United States?
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I was, so I was, uh, in, from Greenville, Maine was as far north as I was.
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Yeah. And so I got to see a bunch of places. I was in, um, that was in the Atlanta area.
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I flew some of it at the beginning and then I drove most of it. I drove, uh, in order to get
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to Maine. I flew into Boston. I drove the four and a half hours, whatever it is to Greenville.
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Uh, I was in Atlanta. I was driving in the Atlanta suburbs. I went to, um, Southwest Florida,
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drove all the way up, you know, past Tampa, went to Jacksonville, Florida, drove from there,
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went to coastal North Carolina, drove from there, uh, back to Washington DC. And I, I flew to be here
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with you. And, um, so get to see a lot of places. And, uh, like I said, it's a beautiful country,
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but it's disturbing how much of it is in disrepair. And like, you just think to yourself,
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you, you, it, there's a part of you that's like, I don't know what you could possibly do
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I was, I don't fly very much at all. I try not to travel at all. Uh, but I've taken a couple
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flights recently, commercial flights and I'm shocked by the airports and, um, I'm shocked
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by how disorganized they are, the TSA screening. I don't remember it being that bad. I've taken
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about four years off from really flying that much. And, and then I thought to myself, wow,
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I didn't know how degrading and stupid this was. I'd forgotten how degrading and stupid
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it was. And then I thought, you know, the people making decisions about the way this
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country is run. Like they don't have any contact with us. There's no, there's no donor to either
01:23:28.500
party who flies commercial. Like nobody flies commercial with money in this country. It's
01:23:33.040
crazy. I grew up in a rich area and world of rich people. Everyone flew commercial. Nobody
01:23:38.120
had a plane. Nobody. Now everybody flies private. It's crazy. And one of the effects of that is
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people who are making these decisions were paying for these politicians. They just don't
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know. They don't see it at all. And they definitely don't drive, you know, from Tampa to coastal North
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Carolina and then DC. They just don't. Yeah. Do you think that has some, some effect?
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That has a huge bearing. I mean, look, TSA conditions the rest of us to be compliant.
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I mean, that's like, so if that's not your experience, you kind of feel like you're in
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What is the facial that you stare into a camera? This happened to me yesterday. I had to fly
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yesterday or two days ago. And they're like, will you look into there? I was like, no, thank
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you. Yeah. But you don't have to. Like, what is that? I'm sorry. I know I'm showing how out of
01:24:22.720
touch I am. I just don't travel very much. It's just security theater. And like, you know,
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what is, first of all, what is the ID checker assessing? What are they doing? Like a compelling
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background check on you or something that, you know, what's your history of terrorism? I mean,
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the whole thing is really stupid and degrading and super annoying. Like, why am I standing in line?
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It was all 9-11. George W. Bush created all of this right after 9-11. And we had to,
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because there was an imminent threat and we were under attack by terrorists. And then you fast
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forward 23 years later and the Taliban still run Afghanistan. They're way better armed with our
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money and their infrastructure is much better because we built it and they're still in charge.
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And we're left in this decaying country with fewer civil liberties having to be humiliated at the
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freaking airport. Like, why shouldn't we see all the 9-11 documents? Like, why, you know,
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if anything justifies another January 6th, which is to say people just like moving up to the Capitol
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and demanding something, why wouldn't it be seeing those documents? Yeah. That event changed this
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country profoundly and forever. Yes. We're its citizens. We pay for it. It's being done in our
01:25:28.000
name. And we can't know what exactly happened because why? And it's changed in really stupid,
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tyrannical, and official ways. But predictable ways. So like, like TSA doesn't catch anything,
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right? So they do their annual screenings where they like practice, like, will you catch the
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weapons that we put through? They put actual weapons through the x-ray machines and the TSA
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agents don't catch them. They have a, their fail rate is astronomical. Really? Yeah. So
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they're not actually even catching the things that they're tested on. And we're all subjected to do
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this as if it's keeping us safe, which of course it isn't. Why are we doing this? Like I would settle
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for, if you want to make one modification, locks on the cockpit door. Totally fine. I'm good with that.
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Beyond that, why are we doing the rest of this? I'm willing to take the risk.
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I am. I'd rather live in that world. It's a happier world. It's more spiritually compelling.
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And it demonstrates, you know, like a cohesive society. You don't need that. And in fact,
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the more they make the society more chaotic, the more they justify all of this, you know,
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the more that they, they import incompatible cultures and, you know, make everyone live in
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squalor. Like eventually they're, they're increasing social distrust so much that they're offering a
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justification for the system that they built. That's right. It's, it's self licking ice cream
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cone. Yeah. Um, what happens at the democratic national convention this week? Well, I think it's
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going to be a big demonstration. If you're clear thinking about this, if you stare at it and you're
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just like objective, what you're going to witness is chaos. You're witnessing, first of all, why are they
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doing it in Chicago? And like, what world do you appeal to the broad American middle for, by having
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a Democrat convention in Chicago, Illinois? Because none of us can ever during the course of our
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lifetimes escape the year 1968. Everything is in reference to that year. Yeah. And so I just,
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why not? I mean, they should have another march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge too. I mean,
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everything is like, everything is a replay of that period. It's weird. Yeah. And so now Kamala Harris
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is the nominee. Amazingly, by the way, this whole convention's fake because she was made the nominee
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weeks ago in secret in an online vote. So this whole thing is like a scam. Everything about it
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is a facade. Even the votes are fake because the votes were taken weeks ago. Yes. All to foreclose on
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the obvious chaos that's going to happen anyway. We're already seeing it. That's right. I mean,
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like, and this is, you know, God, I want Republicans to be so much better than they are.
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But insofar as they exist now, the way they do, Milwaukee was like placid. Yeah. It was peaceful.
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It was orderly. Yeah. It was compelling. It was great. Great speakers. I mean, you were there. You
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saw it. You had better billing than Joe Biden does. I didn't think that, um, I wasn't planning to go
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actually at all. I didn't want to go. I've been to every convention since 96. I didn't want to go to
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any more conventions. They asked me to speak. I wasn't going to do it. Then I was like, I should
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do that and make myself do it. I loved it. I had like the best time ever. Yeah. Why?
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Because I liked the vibe. I liked the people. I mean, obviously I've been around it my whole
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life. So I saw, you know, everyone I've ever met was there, but also I just, I thought it
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was a happy, happy, happy time. Um, and I think it really, Trump survived getting shot in
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the face and that has motivating. Yeah. I mean, that just changed everything. I, I know
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it feels like that was 40 years ago, but it was last month, uh, that that happened. It
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was, it was just, it was happy. Anyway, it was a great time. I thought.
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So they always tell you it's the most important election of your lifetime, but of course this
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one actually is that's demonstrable. And it's also because it is so important being censored
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at every level by the tech companies. So we were thinking about this a couple of months
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ago and we thought, why not get on the road live in front of actual people, live audiences
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coast to coast, a nationwide tour where we can't be censored. That'd be good. It would
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also be fun. So we're doing it. We're going to be on stage with some of our friends, some
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of the most fascinating people we know, the most recognizable people we know, responding
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to what is happening in America this September in real time. It'll be just like the podcast,
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but it's going to be live. So we're excited to announce our friend Larry Elder is coming
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to join us in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Our friend John Rich will be there with us in Sunrise,
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Florida. We're adding more stops. We just added another stadium show in Redding, Pennsylvania.
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We'll be joined on stage by Alex Jones. They tell you what Alex Jones is like. Have you seen
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him in person? You should make up your own mind. It's going to be fun as hell and interesting
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and intense. And we hope you will join us. Go to tuckercarlson.com right now to get your
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After Trump got shot, I realized I liked him more. Yep. And my views about him became less
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complex. I agree. Did you have the same sense? Like, like, in other words, like I always try
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and maintain some objective distance. Like, this is, I don't like about this guy. I wish he would
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do this differently. I wish he didn't do that. I wish he hired better people, whatever, whatever
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criticism you want to level against him. And, and by the way, you should, as you're right as an
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American to do that because the end goal should be to make him better. And Trump is the rare
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politician who actually does listen to people no matter their station in life, no matter where they
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come from. He's actually interested in what you think. So that's a good sign. He'll, he'll actually
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change, uh, when given advice, but my views about him became less complex after that. I was like,
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I really liked this guy legitimately. I agree. Because what he displayed was unusual and aspirational.
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Did you feel like that? I felt that way really strongly. I, I hate complaining. I don't think men
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should complain. I really mean that. Um, it's one of my core beliefs. It's how I was raised and I
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will never shake that belief, that conviction that, you know, stop complaining. Like, what did
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you think this was? And I will never not admire physical courage. I, I just admire that. And, um,
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I want to have it myself. I don't know if I do. I haven't been tested very often in my life, but I
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would like to think that if I was ever shot in the way that Trump was, that I would behave as
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manfully as he did. I don't know that I would. Um, you, you can't know, but he did, he was tested
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in a way that was very meaningful to me, leaving aside the politics, but like all of a sudden you're
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talking and bang, you get hit with something. It's clearly a bullet. You don't know if you're dead
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or not. Yes. And, and then you stand up and yeah, I just, that that's the acid test for me because
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it really matters what you're like as a person. It matters to me. I'm not a Democrat. I don't
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care about your stupid party. And it's the point of the exercise is not to huddle together for
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increased power because I don't feel powerless as a person. Right. I have a family. I don't need a
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party to make me feel whole unlike liberals. And, um, so what really matters to me is what you're like.
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And do you have virtue and you know, Trump is a mixed bag on that question, but part of virtue is
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bravery. It's a big part of virtue. Actually, it turns out much bigger than I understood as a
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younger man. And he's brave, like actually brave, not fake brave. Oh, he's so brave. Oh,
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they're so courageous. Kamala is so courageous. She's a coward. She's terrified. She's clearly
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terrified. Yeah. And he's not. And that like, okay, I'm voting for the guy who's brave over
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the coward. Yeah. And, and on Trump being a mixed bag in terms of like virtue and things,
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I always remember. Let me just say, I'm a mixed bag on virtue. We all are. Right. So I thought,
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okay. In fact, that's a Christian admission and, and. Well, it's a true admission. Here's the thing.
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I, uh, I always think about, um, my dad who you, you mentioned is a Marine Corps officer. And at one
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point he worked very closely as you do with the chaplain in his unit, a guy, great American who
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has the same name twice. His name is Alan Allen, chaplain, Alan Allen. And, uh, he's a great human
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being. And my dad was once complaining to him about, you know, various chaplains in the military and
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how some of them are not so impressive and he wishes they were better and more Christian and
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more and more virtue and that kind of thing. And, uh, he said, uh, he said, Vinny, I think they were
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the same rank. He said, uh, Vinny, remember Jesus chose 12 centers to follow him.
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12 centers. And he was right about that. And I always keep that in mind. It's like, before I
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like start judging other people for their moral feelings, like, like the people who were tasked
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with advancing the greatest message humanity's ever known were failed, were, were, had immense
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Yes. And, uh, Peter was a coward. Yeah. I mean, it's just denied Jesus three times as predicted
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because he was too afraid. Yeah. I agree completely. The most important apostle.
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So they choose, they just, you know, God chooses unusual vehicles.
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I think, I think that's right. And I, I just, in a, in a time where, you know, reality itself is
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hard to identify or even define, you know, in a digital world, in an AI world,
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it's hard to know what is real. Everyone is struggling with this. One thing that is absolutely
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real is that when you're shot in the face unexpectedly.
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Um, we can see something deep about who you are. And we saw Trump live on camera. We saw something
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about him that was just remarkable, was absolutely remarkable.
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It was animal. It was like in a good way. It was, it was just like, he just, it was great. It was
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And I must say, I talked to him that night and, um, the night he was shot that Saturday
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night, maybe, I think. And, uh, I was in Maine, but I talked to him and he didn't, I mean,
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he didn't mention anything about himself. That's just a fact. I mean, look, I'm not flacking for
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Trump, but this is just a fact. It was like, did you see the crowd? They were so brave.
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They didn't run. That's the first thing he said. I was like, wow.
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Yeah. They also, they also saved his life because the people who were outside the perimeter who
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began shouting up about Thomas Crooks being on the roof, the Trump supporters, they were the only
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ones who were raising the loud alarm about what was happening. And they were the predicate to that
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cop getting his head over the roof and scaring Thomas Crooks into taking action at that moment.
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Well, it's so perfect though. It's like only the Trump voters are willing to notice the obvious.
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Yes. They haven't been trained to deny what their senses perceive.
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No. In fact, their senses are elevated to the peril. And they can, they can smell it. And so it's not
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just some looky-loo who's up on the roof, just trying to see what's going on on the stage.
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They're worried about Trump's safety and they're yelling out, he's on the roof. He's on the roof
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officer. They're screaming. They saved Trump's life. Every element of that. I know we keep returning
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to this, but it's such an amazing moment in history.
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Every element of it conspired to save him. Every element of it. From the people shouting,
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the cop getting his head above the roof, the frenzied rush to take the shot by Thomas Crooks
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as a result, Trump's head turned towards a chart, saying moments before, take me off teleprompter,
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I don't even care, I'm going to do the chart. And just all of those things, they conspired in a way
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that can only be divine. That can only be the product of divine intervention. And, and I saw
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that and it's one, so I had simpler views about Trump after that. And I had more grateful views
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I agree with both those things. And his, I, you know, I would, I talk about myself way too much
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as it is, but I try not to, because I think it's such an unattractive, the most unattractive quality
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in a man. But I think if I was shot, like he was shot, I'd be like talking about myself. Like,
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oh, I can't believe I got shot. And Trump, who's like famously, everyone's like, Trump's such a
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narcissist. He didn't, well, at least when I talked to him, he didn't mention himself. It was only about
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And there's no one else listening to this conversation. Well, other than obviously NSA's
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Besides criminals. But anyway, but he's not doing it for an audience. Just me. No expectation. I'll repeat
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it. You know what I mean? And he didn't mention himself. It's only about the other people. And I
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thought, man, I just thought it was so revealing. It was, it was in a way that's not fakeable.
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Yeah. It's cool. And then you talked about that at the convention.
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Which was cool. Yeah. I believe those were the, that was the substance of your remarks talking about
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what he was like. Oh, like, I guess I ad lib that speech. So I actually have no memory.
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You don't have any memory. I was, so, so I guess it renders moot the following question. I, I wonder,
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is there any point, do you ever give a speech where you feel the gravity of it? Or are you at
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the point where you're so used to giving speeches that even speaking on the Republican convention
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stage with every network in the United States concentrated on your remarks? None of that?
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Oh, I felt the gravity of it. Well, in the sense that they told me to, to write a speech. I mean,
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I'm a writer. I can, I've certainly written a lot. Um, but I don't write with speeches. The one
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thing I just don't write speeches. I never have one time in my life, but I felt like, well,
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I want to be the obedient little bitch or whatever. I want to do what I'm told, I guess.
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I don't know. I knew you weren't going to write it. I knew it. I actually, I knew it. In fact,
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I told, as soon as I heard that you were given a dress, I said, he's not going to write it.
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He's just going to do it. Well, I, I made a good faith effort and I, um, there was no sauna at my
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hotel. So I said, I can't write obviously without my sauna, but I did actually spend like eight hours
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fretting about it and trying to write it on my iPhone. And then I was like, I can't write a speech
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for myself. I could write a speech for someone else, but I got to say, whatever, I'm not going
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to. So I didn't, I guess, I know you, I know you're a good writer, obviously like your career,
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whole career has been writing. Even when you were on television, it would, I would laugh at people
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and be like, I wish Chuck would get back to writing. I'm like, I don't think you're familiar with what
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he's doing on a daily basis, literally writing all the time. I just knew that you wouldn't do it
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because it's just, I don't know, maybe it's your ego. Like you're going to give this speech off
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teleprompter and you're just going to say what's on your mind. And I knew kind of reflexively,
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there's no, this is the one venue. It's just, honestly, I kind of thought like,
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you're just like, no, screw you. I'm not doing a speech. I'm not writing a speech.
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Well, ultimately I said that in a much more polite way to the, to the, all the staff at the, you know,
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the really nice people who are, you know, doing the run through and whatever. And I was like,
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I just can't do this. No, I don't like to write speeches because then you don't learn anything.
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There's something about speaking in conversation or, I don't, I really believe that words have,
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you know, elucidated words, spoken words have, have like spiritual power. In the beginning was
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the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Like, what does that even mean? I'm not
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sure what it means. I mean, the word I guess is Jesus, but that's beginning of John. But there's
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something about we tell the truth. We don't just know the truth or believe the truth. We tell the truth.
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There's something about using the one thing that we have that the rest of the animal kingdom
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doesn't have, which is the power of speech that makes things real and that gives them
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power. Anyway, I find that when I talk, or I think everyone finds this, if you think about
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it, that saying something out loud allows you to understand things like you learn. In other
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words, we think of language as something that we use to inform or educate others. I'm going
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to tell you something. I do it for a living. Here are my views. But what we miss is that
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we're being educated too. Like we're learning. The speaker is learning as he speaks.
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Words have immense power, for sure. Words are so, for the reasons you just like that.
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But they change the speaker, not just the listener.
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And they, yeah. And especially like, you know, when you repeat something over and over,
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it establishes a groove in your mind so that you kind of can draw upon it.
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To use it again. So speaking is very helpful in that way. You know, repetition is a good
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way to learn anything. But if you're deprived of the tools, it's disorienting. And it leads
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Meaning, like the left's current program, which has been a program for a while that many
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Shut up racist is a perfect example. To change language in such a way that you can't even think
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clearly about what's going on. That reality is so distorted by your lack of vocabulary
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that, or by your distorted vocabulary, that you're incapable of resolving the problem.
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You can smell that there's a problem, but you don't actually know how to navigate out of it.
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This is like gender affirming care is a perfect example of that. Gender affirming. First of all,
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it's already a lie because it's establishing that your body is a mistake and that what is correct
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is for you to mutilate it. Like, it's like, what?
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We're just affirming something that preexisted in this decision.
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And you scare people into compliance and then they begin to lose the vocabulary necessary to
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Yes, totally. And he was the best at writing about it. And that's why it matters so much,
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And the ability to speak to an audience and then to, first of all, learn for yourself,
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but also to detect what they're actually picking up.
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Is a skill that you have for sure. And it's made you successful. It's a skill that Kamala Harris
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does not have. It's that, that's the skill she doesn't have. She doesn't have that skill. She
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can't do it. She can't talk to an audience and see that they're receiving her. She doesn't know
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what they're receiving. She can't read their body language. She doesn't know like how to change
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her tone. Have you ever noticed she tells these jokes, nobody laughs, and then she cackles to
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It's because she isn't able to connect on a human level because she's not all that interested in
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what they're saying through their expressions, through their reactions.
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Well, she's certainly missing out on one of life's greatest and richest experiences, which is to
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I mean, that's kind of the only reason to be alive, really. And it's like the most beautiful,
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great, fun thing ever. And speaking in public is the easiest thing you could ever do. You
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just can't worry about it. And as long as you don't worry about it, like everyone would
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be great at it actually, including Kamala Harris. And when I don't know her, I've never even
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met her. I have relatives who know her actually. Um, you know, whenever they say she's kind of
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But she's obviously terrified. She's obviously afraid. I look at her, I'm like, Ooh, you're
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afraid. She's scared to death. She's scared to death. That's the first thing I register
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That woman is afraid because she knows that she's fraudulent and-
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No doubt. No one ever mentions that. Like she's, like Biden just had, you know, 50 years
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of life in Washington, kind of the precedent of how things are done in a restrained republic
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kind of seeped into him. She's coming from a different world. She's coming from California
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which is post-political. It's a one-party state and she has no problem using force at
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all. And, uh, and all the fascists around her are the same. So like, no, but, but I
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just feel, I do feel sorry for Kamala Harris. Again, I don't know where I'm just making these
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judgments on the basis of watching her, but I feel like this is someone who can't admit
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who she really is, what she really thinks is, um, and is really, really afraid. And you
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Yes. Which is why I loved Trump at the National Association for Black Journalists.
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The weeks leading up to it put the Trump campaign on its heels because one, the narrative was
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so disrupted by the fact that they just replaced Joe with Kamala.
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And then the media went all in on selling her. It was like, she's so great. She's wonderful.
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And then they adopted this line of attack that J.D. Vance and Donald Trump are weird.
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Okay. So they were like, weird. Now I love laughing that off because of how absurd the
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The abortion worshipers are telling you J.D. Vance is weird.
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Yeah. The men in dresses crew. Like, like, oh yeah, it's so weird. Uh, yeah. Okay. Okay.
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But you have to, you have to be honest enough to admit it's an effective line of attack.
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Insofar as it's the kind of thing that it's like the language of the teenage girl. It's
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like, it doesn't require a deep assessment of what's going on. You use, you use weird.
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It's a way to make somebody toxic in, uh, and it's, it's effective. It's an effective
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weapon. So there's going to be a category of voter that definitely cares a lot about the policies,
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and specifically the ways in which they affect them and their, their bottom line. But there
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are also broad categories of voters who really do kind of ride the vibes of an election. Who
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is this person? And, and I don't mean vote switchers. I mean, whether or not they'll show
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up to the polls at all, you know? And so, okay, weird's one line of attack. What's the
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line of attack on Kamala? She's a phony. She's fraudulent. She's a fake. Now, if Trump gets
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up on a stage and he goes, Kamala Harris is a phony. Does CNN cover that? Does the New York
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Times put it on A1? Does, you know, Washington Post, any of these news outlets? No. But
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if Trump goes on stage, he goes, she's black. It's like five minutes ago, she was Indian.
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Now she's black. I don't know. I love them both, but somebody has got to answer that
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question. Everyone went crazy and, and it was, it was perfect. And the reason it was
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perfect was because it forced all of the places that hate Trump to carry his remarks. And
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it fed an underlying, the subtext of that entire exchange is, Kamala Harris is a phony. And
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it implants it right into the lifeblood of the, of the United States. Like people get
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to see it no matter where you can see it. I wish they'd done that with Obama. He, I mean,
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he's half white, raised by white people. He's more white than he is black. Yeah.
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Culturally. And he is exactly one half white. Sure.
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So why did Republicans not say our half white president or half black president? Like, why do
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they have to be like the first black president and just buy into the lie? It's a lie. And
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they had, it gave him moral power because it, you know, made him, it gave him claim to the
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civil rights movement, which is like the one sort of holy story in American history. Yeah.
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Supposedly. Self-a-lie, but whatever. Everyone's been taught that. And he got to lay claim to that.
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And, but no one also had the balls to puncture it. And just like Kamala, his family didn't come
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from, wasn't in the United States. Oh, I'm aware. The whole thing was fraudulent,
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but, but just as a factual matter, as a genetic matter, I'm not attacking anybody. Obviously,
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I'm just saying like, he's half white. And, but no one, that was considered so outrageous. Yeah.
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That'd be like white lives matter or all lives matter. Another demonstrably factually true phrase
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that became a criminal offense, literally a criminal offense. Like the FBI investigated people for
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saying white lives matter. Yeah. But, and nobody pushed back. But, and these categories don't
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exist for any practical sort of descriptive reason. They only exist for political power because like,
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you know, if you call Elon Musk an African-American, like people are like,
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they, that's like a total violation. You're not allowed to say that despite the fact that he,
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but I have, or if like, you know, George Carlin once cited this, like if you come from Egypt,
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right. You're technically, you're an African-American. Are we allowed to say that? If you're an
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Egyptian, are you called somebody an African? No, not in American political discourse.
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But what does it mean allowed? Why not just tell the truth? Like, why are we such cowards? If you
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allow lies to go unchallenged, they harden and then they become, you know, the, they become the
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instruments of torture that you'll suffer under. That's a fact. Yeah. So like, why are we playing
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along with this? We shouldn't. What cowards are we? Yeah. I never called Obama. I was on TV every day,
01:49:40.360
the Obama administration. I never said our half white press, he's half black, which is a fact. Like I
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didn't have the balls to say that. What's wrong with me? Yeah. And like, you like how like people
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get mad if, if Trump refers to him as Barack Hussein Obama, he'll say Barack Hussein Obama,
01:49:54.240
which is actually his middle name. Yeah. And you're like, you can't, you can't, how racist is
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he for saying that? Why am I playing by your rules anyway? Because somebody was named Saddam Hussein.
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Now I can't say Barack Hussein Obama. Like what is, it actually matters though. If you,
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if you decide that you're going to lie because someone is make quote making you like, whose fault
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is that? It's yours. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of that going on, unfortunately. So I keep
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interrupting you. What is going to be the theme of this convention? It starts today.
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I mean, it's going to be, I mean, you'll, you'll see the chaos on the outside, but on the inside,
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you're going to be served, um, an endless stream of lies about the current state of our country.
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They'll tell you that the misery that exists within it is not actually happening, that people
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are far happier, that, um, that things are fine. Also, you're going to get this weird.
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So she's going to run as the incumbent basically.
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They want everything. They want it both ways because they're going to lie to you about the
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current state of affairs. And then they're going to tell you what her day one agenda is as if she
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didn't have power to begin with. Right. So they're doing, and, and the Trump campaign has been great
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on this. They said her day one was three and a half years ago. So let's stop pretending that it's
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starting. So that's why, I mean, they could make her president. I mean, they could 25th amendment
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Biden. I mean, they basically already have in effect, if not literally, but they could just make her
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president. They probably by all rights should, because she does seem non-senile. Um, but they
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won't because they don't want her to have to take responsibility for the current state of the
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country. Is that, that's my guess. I don't know. Yeah. Or they're, or they're so wrapped up in the
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idea that, oh, we shouldn't give it to her this way because we give it to her with the election is
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more legitimate or something like they shouldn't, the woman shouldn't have to be made president by
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virtue of the 25th amendment. The first woman president, they just, you know, we settled on her.
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I don't know what their thinking is on that. Oh, are they doing the first woman thing?
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They're doing the first everything. Really? Yeah, of course. Oh my goodness. They're
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going to, that's going to be a big theme this week. First woman? The first woman president?
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Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy that like, since we've already established that there's no definition of
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woman, like why should I care? Tell me why I should care. 100%. You don't, I mean, there's no such thing
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as a woman. So like, why is it meaningful that we have one as president? Yeah. And there's no
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difference between a woman and a man, none. They can be Navy SEALs. So like, what, what's the mean,
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what's the significance of this? There is none anymore. I mean, they've erased, there's the,
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the attacks on women that have been led by Biden and Harris are, I think, I think are unprecedented
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actually in American history. I mean, if this is another area where it's like, Republicans really
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should sink their teeth into this for every, in every possible way. So stupid. But title nine?
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Yeah. The fact that the Biden administration came along and said that women are not a real category
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and that men can be in their locker rooms and take their sports teams and beyond and all of those
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things. Why isn't there like a nonstop campaign against that atrocity? There should be like, why do
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we have women's sports then? What's the point of that? Why do we have any separate category for women
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to participate and succeed and on an equal playing field? We shouldn't under that notion. And so the
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Biden administration is leaning on all out assault on the very existence of women. Right. And then of
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course, once the credit for the first woman president, should that occur? So it's incoherent,
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obviously. It's totally incoherent. It's got all the markers of Marxism as it presents itself
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throughout history. Which is just deceptive to its core. It doesn't, it's shape-shifting and there
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are no fixed meanings to anything. It's just, I need to be empowered. You need to obey. And that,
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that those are the only immutable rules. Yep. Yep. I mean, it is very much like my body,
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my choice here, take the COVID vax or I'll kill you. Yes. Wait, what? I thought it was my body,
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my choice. No. Only when you're killing your kids, not when you're, I'm forcing some.
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Yeah. It's every single, I mean, it's like. I almost called it poison, but I would be censored
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by YouTube if I did that. Well, so I just want to be clear. I'm not calling any substance that was
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federally mandated poison. Okay. Good. Thank you for that. And so, I mean, it's like guns too.
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They're the same way on guns that, you know, you don't, you don't need them, but we do. They'll
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protect us. It's all, it's all. Is she going to get elected? Kamala Harris? Yeah. I think it's
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a lot closer than I want it to be. There are 30 states that are, can we fill with drop boxes?
01:54:27.520
That seems like a problem. And, you know, there've been some positive advances like banning
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Zuckerberg's in 27 states. You saw like states like Georgia and Texas have passed real voter
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integrity laws that have increased the quality of their election system. But then there are states
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like Pennsylvania where things are still a little too chaotic, where you have these drop boxes across
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the country, Wisconsin, of course. These are pivotal states. But that, like no state that has drop boxes
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can be considered legitimate. How can I, how can I believe an election result in a state with drop
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boxes? Right. Yeah. If, if, no matter what party you're a part of, if the election doesn't go your
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way and your state's full of drop boxes, your suspicions are going to be sky high. So how is that
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stabilizing for a Republican? So I had a conversation this morning, actually, with someone, a well-known
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very knowledgeable person from Republican politics who said, you know, there are all these states
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with drop boxes and I'm really concerned about this. And I said, well, what don't, isn't there an
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RNC that like exists to deal with this? And this person said, well, the problem is that these drop
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boxes are disproportionately in what he called urban areas. And no one at the RNC wants to be seen as
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criticizing the way things are done in urban areas. And I thought, well, why is the RNC hiring
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guilty white liberals? If, if you're a guilty white liberal, I'm not attacking you, you know,
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I don't want to live near you or, or meet you, uh, obviously, but there's a political party for you.
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Yeah. Like what are they doing at the RNC? Yeah. It's a good question. It is a good question.
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I mean, it is completely critical that we get ahold of that. I mean, like, you know, you've got,
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was it Michael Watley and Laura Trump are now running the RNC. They established this renewed
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emphasis on voter integrity. Um, and all these, I think they've got all sorts of legal challenges
01:56:20.700
they've mounted across the country that's headed in the right direction. But if you are opting out
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of dealing with election integrity in critical areas, because you're afraid you'll be seen as
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racist for trying to protect the votes of the people who live there, you've lost the plot.
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You've lost the plot because it turns out voter integrity laws. If we're talking about black voters
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specifically are disproportionately beneficial to black voters. But what happened in Georgia
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after they changed their election laws to make it so that you can no longer just do signature
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matching on a, uh, a mail-in ballot, they said, you got to send in your, your driver's license
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number with the ballot. Well, yeah. When they did that, black voter participation went up and fewer
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black votes were rejected. Yeah. It's obvious. And it's, it's been, it's always obvious. In fact,
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signature matching was working to the detriment of authentic black voters. They were having their
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ballots thrown out because it turns out sometimes your signature doesn't match what you signed when you
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were 18 years old. Like when you get older and you signed like some, and you get some idiot who's
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looking at, not a handwriting specialist, just some random, you know, bureaucrat looking at two
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ballots and the signature and be like, mm, throwing that out. Throwing it, what?
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I think that the period where there's going to be this intense emphasis on black voters
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is coming to an end because of immigration and native born black voters will become less important
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to election outcomes. Dramatically less important starting after this election. And so that means
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black political power, as we've thought about it for the last 60 years will be in rapid, rapid
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decline. And it's just interesting. It's, it sort of reminds me of organized labor. You know,
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I'm not against unions. I'm not against black voters. I'm not, I'm, I'm for all American voters,
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but they got sold out by their leadership. For sure. Yeah. Like so completely. And I'm not sure
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people really understand that. Like, I just, I just don't think it's going to matter too much
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actually, because the demographics of the country have changed so much, uh, in the last 10 years
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that like, do people get this? I hope so. I, there is, there's like some shifting. It looks
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like among black men, which has been good. Uh, the left is very angry about that. And the more angry
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they get about it, the more likely they're, they are to try and take it out. But increasingly it's
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just symbolic though. I mean, if you have 10 million illegal aliens or 30 million illegal aliens that
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we don't even know the number, but it's tens of millions and they're all going to vote, you know,
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sooner rather than later, probably, but definitely at some point, no one's going to be deported.
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Then like the whole civil rights movement, that whole mythology, it becomes sort of meaningless
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because the democratic party will have political power without black voters. Like no matter what they
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do, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And they, the whole, and then the whole history of that party has been
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hurting black, black people, black Americans. It's disgraceful all the way
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from, you know, we, you mentioned at the outset of the conversation, like the KKK and Margaret
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Sanger and the targeting, the so-called Negro project. I mean, it has been a relentless assault
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actually on black Americans, uh, which is a disgrace. And, uh, I hope, I just hope more and
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more people can wake up to it, but while they still have political power to the extent that they do,
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and it's being sold out now as you speak. Uh, and so that's crazy. That's crazy. And I don't,
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yeah, I don't have a ton of friends who are, uh, black Democrats. Um, I know a lot of, and love a
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lot of, you know, right-wing black people, but I have one friend who's a black Democrat, really good
01:59:35.460
guy. But I made this point to him a few years ago. I was like, it's kind of over for the political
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power that you've been talking about your whole life because of immigration. Yeah. And, um, he had
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honestly not really thought about it. And, uh, well now you're seeing it in Chicago. Now I'm
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bragging, but I think he agrees with me now because it's just, it's just numbers. It's a
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numbers. How many, how many angry town hall meetings have you seen in Chicago over this
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issue? Yeah. A lot, a lot. Black residents of Chicago, they're going confronting, but the
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alderman right in Chicago, confronting them and saying, what the hell? Why? So wait a second.
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So foreigners, illegal foreigners are pouring into the country. They're coming to Chicago.
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They're taking all of the public resources and we're being left in the slums. And how
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many times this is going to happen before you wake up to it? Like, like when the riots
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were happening, the George Floyd riots were occurring and Chicago became one of the latest
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cities to be ransacked. The lady who looked like Beetlejuice who ran the city, she deployed
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the national guard to the extent that a mayor is supposed to do that anyway, but they were,
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she was given resources. She sent it to, what do they, what do they call that? The, the,
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the million mile or something. The, uh, the really nice area of Chicago where all of her
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donors live, like the richest area of Chicago. Meanwhile, the South side left defenseless.
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People were getting murdered in the streets, losing their lives, places being wrecked because
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she refused to protect the most vulnerable because she had no interest.
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I saw this during Katrina in New Orleans. The French quarter was fine. All the cops were
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in the French quarter. Lower ninth, nobody. I saw it. Um, yeah, no, of course it does sort
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of raise the question. I mean, this is the purpose of ginning up racial hostility, obviously,
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is to make people vote against their own interests, their demonstrable interests,
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because they so, they so despise or they're so afraid of the other party coming to power on racial
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grounds. Yeah. That's, that's what is actually happening. Sorry. It's, it's totally crazy.
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This week it's joy. It's joy. This is this weekend. That's, that's what they keep telling
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everybody. What's, I could think of it being about a lot of different things. Um, but joy
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is the most preposterous of all because she's so obviously joyous. She's kissing her husband
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with a mask on. So this is the most joyless person I've seen lately. Well, this is, that's
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consistent. The pitch is opposite of everything. But why that's like a deep, I've never really
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figured it out. Like why should an effective lie is always like a few degrees off from center
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from the truth. Right. Yeah. Isn't it? I mean, last week she was like, I'm for no tax on tips. Now
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like she had the Trump policy. Yeah, I saw that now. Yeah. I'm for no tax on tips. She said,
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okay, like what, where did that come from? Oh, I'm going to secure the border. What? Who are you?
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Like, will you stop lying to us? But why not instead? Like, but that's not how normal people
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lie. Normal people, like I catch you doing something wrong and you, you know, like it's
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not as bad as it looks or, but you don't whip around and accuse me of doing the exact thing
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that I caught you doing. Like, what is that? No, that you do in an abusive relationship.
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Really? Yeah. In an abusive human relationship. I mean, this is kind of like the classic sort of
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like cheating on your wife and trying to figure out a way to survive it. Yeah. You start blaming
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her as the center. Right. So the, so this is the democratic party's relationship with Americans
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is an abusive one. I saw that. I actually saw that once. I was actually, well, probably didn't
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tell us. I was with somebody who I wasn't there for this, but he got caught cheating and I was like,
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whoa, not a good person. And I said, what did you say? And he said, I screamed at her for spending
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too much at Saks on our credit card. I was like, what? You get caught or she had evidence that he
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was doing something wrong, which he was. Yeah. And you attack her. I thought that was the most
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screwed up thing I'd ever seen, but that's a thing you're saying. Definitely. Which is why family
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analogies are so perfect for all of this. It's like, like, what do you do? I know you've done
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this for years, but like, what does it mean to run a healthy household? Like, do you lock your
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doors at night? You know, how do you protect your family? You know, what does that look
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like? What kind of example are you to your children? All of those things. The only things
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that matter, you mean? Yeah. Yes. The Democrats are leading the most dysfunctional household
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you've ever seen. Yeah. They're like abusing the children, attacking each other, all the sins
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that they're committing, they're projecting onto all their other family members. Yes.
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Yes. It's really degrading and, and total dysfunction. It's awful. And it's also why it's
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godless. It's also why it's godless. Because you begin assuming this omnipotent power over
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reality itself and begin telling everyone else that they're the problem and they're the sinners
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and that they should respond to you. And it's, meanwhile, in the healthy household, what's
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happening is there's a father who's demoing for his children what it looks like to have
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And their children only know God through that lens. Yes.
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They only can, that's, that's how you know. How do you, so we refer to God the father.
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How do you even know how he functions as a father unless you have a human father as a
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frame of reference? You don't. You don't understand what that looks like. If you have a dysfunctional
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relationship with the men in your life, how are you ever going to get your head around
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the idea that God the father is a loving father? You know what I mean? So like all of these
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I do know, I've never thought of it before, but this is a, yes, I know, of course I know
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It's why fathers are so important. Because like all of reality centers around what your impression
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of what it means to have a good father is. That's, that's it. That's the whole ballgame.
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So the left is leading the dysfunctional household where they're driving everybody to self-destruction
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and it should be the obligation of normal people to counter that and to have a healthy household
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That's so interesting. I, I have noticed the symptoms of what you're saying. And the main
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one is the people they're attacking, you know, I don't have a PhD on America or whatever,
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but I, you know, I know a lot of like rural Trump voters, for example, and they're not
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only good people, they're actually like the best people I've ever met. And they're also
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the most useful and skillful people I've ever met. Like the most, like actually the most,
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they can do the most useful things. And the people attacking them, someone like Janet Yellen,
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the treasury secretary, from my perspective, which is a simple perspective because I'm a simple man,
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is like an utterly disgraced figure. Like utterly, like there's no one who has less credibility,
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a shorter track record of real achievement. There's no one who's like more repulsive in every way
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than Janet Yellen, to me anyway. And she's the one helping to like malign people with real skills.
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It's like, that's not an accident. This whole system is set up for useless people to have power.
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Whereas in a just society, they would have no power.
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I know. Sometimes I wonder like at the lowest levels, like whether like the productive among us
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are like, I don't know. It's, you know how like at the lowest levels of government,
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other than the household, which of course we were just talking about, like the HOAs and the community
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boards. Like they're all consistent of like, like the insecure busybodies. And like the productive
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people who should be in those roles, the ones who have families and know how to mediate a dispute
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between their children. Insecure busybodies. You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Like they're not
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actually in charge of those organizations. No. And so, I don't know. This, this is the best system
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ever devised in terms of a government, but there are clearly weaknesses. Like that's,
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and that's one of them. The feeder system into the bigger aspects of government is a lot of
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insecure busybodies. It's, and I, maybe that's probably always been that way. You know, I'm sure
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the Roman Senate was filled with insecure busybodies, but it, it never, I guess what I think is new and
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really obnoxious at best poisonous at worst is not just that like the, the least competent people
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have the most power, but that they use that power to hurt the most competent people. That is just
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crazy to me. It is. Like you would think like they would, at least for self-interest reasons,
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they would say, well, you know, people actually know how to run a power grid or fly an airplane
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or perform heart surgery. Like we shouldn't attack them on the basis of their skin color. Cause we
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like need those people. We don't want to be Zimbabwe, but they seem to want to destroy all
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those people. Do you feel like that's gotten worse? I mean, obviously it feels like-
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Oh my gosh. Yes. Like the, you know, you asked me earlier about like the distance that the ruling
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class has from the rest of America. You'd probably be better at answering that question. Like, I mean-
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I don't know. I mean, I obviously, you know, I guess I'm part of the ruling class. I've been in it my
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whole life and, and every, and I do think it gives me a better perspective on how lame they are.
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There's no mystery for me. I know exactly who they are cause I know them, but, um, and I have
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total contempt for them. Whoa. I'm trying to control it. Um, no, my conclusion, just based on
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the evidence, again, it's hard to know intent, impossible really, but just on the basis of
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outcomes is that the whole point of the program is not to uplift anyone. It's to hurt people,
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specifically Christians above all, but also anyone who's productive, free thinking, you know,
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the people you really need, like the guys who designed and run the power grid. Like those
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are the people you need most. Yes. First responders, firemen, cops, EMTs, airline pilots. Like it's not
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just like, Oh, we need more incompetent airline pilots. It's that we need the current group of
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airline pilots to die because they have skills that we'll never have. I mean, I feel like this
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whole system is based on hatred born of envy. That's, that's the way I read it. And you look
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at, there are a couple of foreign countries, South Africa and Zimbabwe, particularly where
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the whole point wasn't to like redistribute the land to the landless that didn't actually
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happen. All the land went to the people with political power. The point was to crush the
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farmers because the farmers were too productive. And that was offensive to the people in charge.
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It's like, you go get that yield out of that land when you're tobacco or whatever you're
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growing. They couldn't. So we have to crush and kill them. They killed them. A lot of them.
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And so I feel like they're hurting people is the point that does feel it's, it's definitely
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not about helping black people or helping trans community or helping immigrants. I probably
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wouldn't be totally against it. If it was, I like helping people, but it's not, it's not
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about your policies. Like all of that is enabling their destruction. The enabling is what's
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happening. So like, you know, this whole, like the needle exchange programs, like the left has
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been on this for years. Wait, you're going to help people continue to inject drugs into their
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bodies. That's the, that's the plan. Like, uh, all of the marijuana initiatives, like you're
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going to continue, you're going to dull people. That's the, the plan is to broadly dull the
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American people. The trans stuff, you're going to tell people, yes, your body's a mistake.
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The only intervention is my big corporate donor getting rich off of your misery for the rest
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of your life. Like that's again, to go back to the family analogy in a family, you would intervene
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in a real, in a healthy family, in a dysfunctional family, you would enable. And that's what they're
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doing. They're enabling destruction. Yeah. See, I can't relate. I mean, I am, you know,
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the oldest man in my family pretty much at this point. So I intervene all the time. Like that,
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that's what you do. I've seen it. Yeah. I mean, I'm an intervener, like immediate intervener.
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So, um, I think that's your duty. And I just kind of, I don't, I, you know, I love this country and
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I love its cities. For example, I've lived in a number of them, but I have contempt for people
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who allow like a needle exchange program to happen. Like, why doesn't someone go burn down
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the needle exchange? Like, I'm serious and, and take the lumps, go to jail for it. But we're not
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going to give people intravenous drugs in my neighborhood, period. I'm not going to put up with
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that period. Yeah. And if you punish me for getting in the way, I will accept that punishment.
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But I'm not going to allow it. I don't know why people allow that. I really don't. I'm
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probably saying too much, but I'm not encouraging violence. I'm encouraging zero tolerance for
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killing people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, but the, you know, meanwhile, the Biden administration,
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like sending out needle kits, like they're like, they're a part of this. And, but, and it's
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just, I don't know if you'll accept that. What, what won't you accept? Yeah. I mean, I was in
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Australia this year and they put people in camps and concentration, like actual,
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and if you bring that up, you know, that you put people in concentration camps for COVID. Well,
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they're not really concentration camps. Really? I remember. What were they? I remember the colored
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tape that they had on the floor. Yeah. If you stepped across it, you would be arrested.
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Yeah. And they did. They arrested people. Yeah. People put up with it. You're going to get to a
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place like Canada where they're just like, well, getting to the exact same place that Germany got to
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in 1933, where if you're useless, we're going to kill you, which they did. They killed hundreds of
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thousands of Germans, Christian Germans, because they had disabilities or they were useless and
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they murdered them in hospitals, children. And they're doing that in Canada now with the MAID
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program and just killing people. Well, it's just cheaper for us to kill you. And everyone's putting
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up with it. It's just like, you can't put up with certain things. And they'll punish the useful.
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So they'll kill the useless and punish the useful. So the truckers in Canada get their lives
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destroyed by merely exercising what is their God-given right, which is to protest, which is
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to object in the democratic system in which they thought they lived and then have their lives
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destroyed. And because they didn't have any power to stop it. And that was, I mean, Antifa burns down
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cities. Canadian truckers set up hot tubs in the streets and protest the government.
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Yeah. It just seems like there's no kind of way out other than saying, you know, I'm willing to
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be punished for trying to stop the killing of other people. And that's what I don't like about
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the party system. It obscures what's at stake. It's like, well, I want my guy to get elected or my
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party to thrive. It's like, none of that really matters. You cannot allow some NGO to abet intravenous
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drug use. Like, let's just start there. Or fund the NGOs to the tune of billions of dollars to
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traffic every foreign national across our border they can get their hands on.
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Yeah. Well, I never understood why the totally useless governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, didn't just
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put the national guard on the border. I've said that to his face. I ran into him at an event. I was like,
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why don't you do that? It's really complicated. It's not complicated. If there's a home invasion
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in my house, I'm going to get my firearm and stop it if I can. Yeah. And then I'll deal with the
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concerns because it's my family. So my priority is pretty simple. Protect my family. And then,
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you know, if the laws are broken, I'll take my lumps. Do you think mass deportation is possible?
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Of course not. Of course it's not possible. So the majority of the public supports it.
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Yep. Right now. They don't have the stomach for the images of it, obviously. So the second,
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you know, the media can find one sob story, they'll accelerate it quickly to hurt Trump and to
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justify allowing the chaos to continue. And I do think there's a middle ground. I don't think you
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have to do mass deportations. I think if, if, uh, if Washington was responsible enough, which of
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course we know the answer, they're not, but if they were responsible enough, they could just create
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the conditions whereby people wouldn't be able to live here and, and take from us. So
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past nation, why do you verify? Like literally force businesses to have to hire workers who are allowed
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to work for them. But we're so far past that because that presupposes that, you know, the
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immigrants are, all they're getting is access to our labor markets, right? Either if I would stop
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people from working without papers, without the legal right to work. But we're bringing in tens of
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millions of people and giving them flat out subsidies that are much higher than American citizens are
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receiving. Sure. Yeah. So we're paying them to come here. We paid for their travel up here
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indirectly. State department's doing it. UN's doing it at scale. And then once they get here, it's just
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like, it's a pinata party with U S tax dollars, a bankrupt country is paying people to invade it.
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So at that point, it's like, what are we really looking at? Well, you're looking at suicide. Like
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you're looking at a country that's trying to destroy itself or whose leaders are trying to destroy it.
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And then that's when you reach like the point where like, I just have to say more prayers about
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this. I don't know. I know, but you have to, so, but if you had like a real administration that
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could come in who had the will to do it, you cut off all of that. You don't need someone who could
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explain it, you know, words matter. Someone who could just get up and say, not against immigrants,
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but this is obviously suicide and we're not going to participate. Is J.D. Vance a good explainer?
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I think he's great and he's sincere. You know, I'm certainly politics is not good for people.
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So, you know, I have seen people change. I pray that he doesn't, but I, as someone who knows him
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pretty well, I think, um, as of right now, I think he's a, he's the opposite of weird. He is. And I
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think they're all weird. I'm not even going to say all the people I know are actually really weird
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in Republican politics. It's definitely most of them. Some of them are obvious, Lindsey Graham or
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whatever. Everyone jokes about it, but, but there, there's so many freaks, like just truly
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deceptive people because the business draws them like a bug light. He's not at all that way. So.
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You're not excluding Democrats from that assessment. You're just saying, you know,
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you happen to know that a lot of Republicans are weird.
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Well, anyone in the, at this point in the training party is like, you're a freak.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's a female admiral. Like if you're saying that, what? No, I mean,
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in the Republican party, which should be the party of normal people, it represents normal
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people. Sure. Yeah. You know, tries to, pretends to. So, um, no, JD Vance is like the most normal
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person. Oh, you see, you really think that's, I was, I mean, I, I have wondered, like, you know,
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a lot of these guys is JD Vance, like sort of, he's at the top of the normal people list for now.
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I think he is. Um, are there a couple who are really normal? I, in my opinion, this is just my
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opinion, whatever one man's opinion, but, um, Senator Schmidt from Missouri is wonderful man.
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I like like an actual good person. I know that for a fact. Um, so, you know, I'm sure there are
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others. Yeah. I like Tommy Tuberville. Yeah. I don't, so I don't know him, but I don't, I just
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have talked to him a lot. I thought he was a hero for the abortion fight. Yeah. Yeah. I completely
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agree. No, I look, I'm generalizing. I'm just disappointed in the party, but there are certainly
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a ton of freaks. JD is not, he's like a normal person. Yeah. And, um, and he's really, he's
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legit smart. Uh, so yeah, he could definitely make the case. And what purpose does he serve?
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Is it just to explain or what purpose does he serve working with Trump? Do you think?
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Well, again, these are just, I mean, my opinions, I don't really know the answer. How'd this turn
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into an interview of me? I just want to know. I genuinely want to know because I know you're
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a fan of JD. I am. Yeah. And I want to know why. Yeah. I've known him since long before he
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got into politics. So, uh, so I have, you know, a sense of him as a person, I think, because
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politics does, you know, it's a very weird business as you well know, since unlike me,
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you still live in Washington. But, um, uh, from my perspective, I mean, I can't speak
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to why Trump chose him and it was Trump who chose him, you know, facing enormous pressure
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from sleazy anti-American Republican donors who have all kinds of agendas, none of which
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have anything to do with life in the United States. Trust me, really, really unbelievable
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people, but, uh, in a bad way, but he faced them all down and chose this guy cause he wanted
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to. So from my perspective, the message that JD Vance's pick sent was there is more to the
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Trump phenomenon than just the man. There's a set of ideas or at least impulses. I don't
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know, ideas, but just the basic, the basic concept is a leader of a country should look
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out for his own country. It's like not hard. And by picking JD Vance, who clearly believes
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that, um, Trump is setting up a, a, a legacy, a really meaningful legacy. Like this is the
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direction of the party because people can't wait for Trump to leave in the Republican
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party and just go back to being completely bought and paid for arm of the lobbying community
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in Washington, whether it's pharma, the banks are certainly the power brokers of the party
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are excited. Certainly the weapons manufacturers, the defense industry, the killing people business,
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that goes on, that's made it such a rich city. Um, those people can't wait for Trump to leave
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and just put in some stooge, which is most of them and call it Trumpism or whatever, but it's
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the opposite. And JD Vance is like tangible sign that Trump understands that there's more to this
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than just him. This is a really important idea. It's a very common sense idea. It's the most
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common sense idea. You can't have a democracy if the people who run the country aren't acting on the
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country's behalf by definition. And it also seems like he has the most perspective out of everybody
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in Washington, meaning he's lived in every category of American life. Yes. And so as a result, if you
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have that much stored wisdom, you should put it to good use. I totally agree. And you hate to reduce
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people to their biography. And we do that too much in my view, but biography does matter. Like how you
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grew up, Matt, the fact that, you know, you're the son of a Marine officer and grew up all around the
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country, like literally all around the country on bases like that, knowing you for a long time, that
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very much affects your worldview. That's my perception. So it does matter. And the best thing
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about JD biographically, in my opinion, is the fact that he grew up in, you know, one of these kind
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of sad communities, post-industrial communities in Ohio, Southern Ohio, Appalachia, and
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joins the Marine Corps, enlisted. He's smart. He winds up at Yale Law School, which really is like
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the center of the credential factory in American life. Yeah. And forget Ohio, there's not a lot of
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Marines going to Yale. Yeah. Yeah. Not enlisted. No, he's like literally enlisted, enlisted Marine.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like my father, you know, and the guys who tell you to be careful of when they've been
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drinking, you know, like, and he went to be a law school and then he immediately, cause it's, it's a short
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step from Yale Law School to private equity in the Aspen Institute. Yeah. And then Trump is starting
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to rise and people are like, oh, here's our white Appalachian guy, except we've already molded his
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brain. So why don't you come to the Aspen Institute and tell us all David Brooks and all the douchebag
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community, what it's like to be a product of this sad, you know, opioid addicted world that you're from.
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And he does, he dutifully does like, why wouldn't he? And he does this for a couple of years and he
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realizes through a lot of contact with these people that they're disgusting and he winds up
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hating them, which is very much sort of my personal story. Yeah. Yeah. Like my contempt is born of like
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knowledge and contact. Like I'm not, this is not theoretical for me. Like I dislike people because
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I know them and I know how completely they have abandoned their duty to the country. And I have
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contempt for them for that. And JD had had exactly the same experience. And he's like, I know exactly who
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you are. I know everything you have to offer. Yeah. And I'm not interested. He's got the right
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perspective. And boy, they hate him for that. It's so good. And he's got, and unlike them,
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he doesn't have contempt for the people that he grew up with. He doesn't have contempt for the
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voters. No. And, and that's the critical element. And JD, I will say is a lot like Dr. Ben Carson in
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this way, because Ben Carson kind of had that, that trajectory. Yeah. And once, so JD, as you pointed
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out, was the muse to middle America, he was the muse to the unwashed American masses. Exactly.
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The left loved him when he was merely an author and they could pretend like they cared about those
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people. Right. That was the only reason they loved him. And then the second he announces that he's
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interested in Republican politics, now he's, now he's evil. Now we're going to make up stories about
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him. The same with Ben Carson. It's, it happens, it just happens over and over and over again.
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Totally right. And the fact that he criticized Trump and Trump is a fascist and da, da, da, da,
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and basically saying the same things that, you know, David Brooks says every week or
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Tom Friedman or any of those other morons in the New York times editorial page.
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And then he like realizes that now actually there's like more to Trump than that. And he,
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and then he ends up liking Trump and it's like pretty sincere. I think, I mean, I know it is
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cause I've seen it and they're like, wait, you can't, you can't work for Trump. You once disliked
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Trump. You said the same things about Trump that we say every day. Therefore it's like,
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what do you even say? As we're speaking, Kamala Harris is disavowing every position she's ever
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held. And the idea that you'd be critical, be like, Oh, you didn't like Trump once?
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Well, I kind of like, I don't kind of, I very much like people who change their views on things.
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Sincerely change your views. Don't just tailor their views to whatever's expedient,
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but who actually have had, we used to call it growth. Remember that? When people grew,
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they like sorted through the evidence and realized they were wrong. I mean, I've had that experience
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so many times. I know, I'm sure you have also. For sure. I like that. Yeah. I like that. Tell me,
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that's why I like AA meetings. Tell me how wrong you were. Like admit it, admit how powerless and
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flawed you are. And now I'll trust you. Yes. I don't trust you if you pretend to be God because
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you're not. Yeah, exactly right. Right. Yeah. You just take, take everything apart and just stare
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out on the floor and see what, see what fits together again. But those are honest people. Yeah.
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And the dishonest ones, which is most people in authority are like, Oh, I've always thought that,
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you know, whatever. Men can become women or whatever. Trans visibility day has been important
02:25:16.100
to me since 1972. Like what? Yeah. Yeah. Or they pretend, they just pretend like they ever had
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those positions. Like, you know, Barack Obama, he was like, marriage is only between a man or a woman.
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Like, like not anymore. Not apparently. And he's never looked back.
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Well, it's always the, you know, it's sad. It's the closet cases that are like so weird on that
02:25:35.720
subject. You know what I mean? It's, I've seen it so much. Um, it makes them so uncomfortable
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that they kind of like go too far in the other door. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, I'm
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serious. That's pretty funny. Like dating 10 women at once. Did you see the video of Biden at the
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debate in 2007, democratic debate, announcing that Barack Obama had an AIDS test?
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Yes. I think I, remind me. Oh, it's the funniest video ever to Biden. It's at the,
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this is all the things that happen that get lost that nobody recalls. But, um, in fact,
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I think we put it up on our X feed because it's so good. But Biden, who really is like a soulless
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person, uh, said, well, I know, I think, you know, AIDS is a, you know, it's a real problem
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in the African-American community. And I think we should all get AIDS tests. I mean, Barack Obama
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had an AIDS test. There's a cutaway of Obama being like, I hate you. Biden's like, he just
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lets it hang there for just one second. And he's like, I mean, I, which is totally good.
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And, you know, I think he was, he's negative, but I mean, all men should get an AIDS test.
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Obama is so mad. So mad. Cause like everybody in democratic politics knows that Obama, you know,
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they all think that Obama is on the down low. Like they all think that I, trust me, they think
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that. Well, he, he, uh, I mean, there's actual evidence for this. I mean, because David Garrow's
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biography, he wrote about it. I'm aware. I've talked to Dave Garrow about it. Which was like,
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which was, uh, and that book was, you know, it was the definitive book on Obama.
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That guy interviewed. So he won, what's the award? He won an award for his MLK book.
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And then he goes parting the waters or I can't something like that. Yeah. And then he goes on
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and he writes this, the most single, the single most in-depth book on Barack Obama that's ever
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existed. He's talked to literally everybody, like Obama's mailman, everybody, like anybody who's
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ever had any contact. Former girlfriends too. Former girlfriends. And that's where he got the
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letters where Obama was admitting his gay fantasies to a girl that he was seeing. And, uh, that was,
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and so the media refused to cover it, which was totally real. It was like, it's, it's in the book.
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There's no denying it. I mean, Garrow is considered, I think one of the most authoritative
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biographers alive. And, uh, you know, people just get right back. And Garrow's a liberal.
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And, but I think, um, I'm pretty sure if I can say conclusively that Garrow came to really kind
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of dislike Obama and to think he was fraudulent during the writing of that book. And, um, that book
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was, I don't know, it wasn't banned of course, but it was, uh, it was definitely. Yeah.
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It, cause it got, you know, it got to the core question, which is who is this guy exactly?
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And there's, you know, he's clearly has a lot of talents. I've always thought that about Obama,
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but it was, he was also like, there's deception at the core.
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Also like it kind of gives away the game. Cause if their whole belief is that it's totally normal
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to be gay, then like, why wouldn't they just feature it?
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Like why wouldn't they just be like, oh, this is another great detail about his life that
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Well, I, it's so weird to be, you know, on the right or wherever I am and feel like you're
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more liberal on this stuff than like the democratic party. Cause there are plenty of people in the
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democratic party who are still closeted. And it's like, by the way, I do not believe in
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getting into, you know, I think people should be allowed to reveal as much as they want about
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their personal lives. Like privacy is really important. In fact, it's essential. So it's not
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my place to, you know, get into that, but there are a ton, including really famous ones. And it's
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like, how dare you get up and everybody else is constantly lecturing everyone about their sex
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lives. Like it's your business. It's not just shut up about everyone's sex life. Okay. One,
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two, if you're like Mr. You know, or, or Ms. You know, gay rights advocate and you're
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closeted, like what, how can you live with yourself?
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Also the core point with all of these stories is like, if, if you're leading your life in
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deception, why should you have any responsibility over the rest of ours? So if you're an
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power, yeah, if you, if you have power, it is reasonable to ask fundamental questions about
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what you're honest about and what you're lying about.
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Dude, I agree completely. And we all lie and, um, and it's bad, but it's like super,
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Yeah. Yeah. It tells you a lot. And as a voter, you want to know that kind of thing. Oh,
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like, uh, in Kamala Harris's case, you'd, you see the, the, the intern who once worked for her,
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who revealed what it was like working in her office in, uh, in San Francisco.
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I think it was approximately exactly what you would expect.
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Every time she walked in in the morning, they had to say, good morning, general.
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General. So like, I think a lot of people don't realize, like, I guess there is like,
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there is a format, there is like a formal title that you could refer to an attorney general as
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general, but it is so preposterous that almost nobody does it. It's so stupid.
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I know many attorneys general, many, many, more than 10. And I've never called a single one of them.
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No. And to the extent that you've ever talked to them about it, they're like kind of embarrassed
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by the concept. Like not actually a general. So don't say that.
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Yeah. Not generals. Yeah. So she would walk in in the morning and her expectation was that every
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single person would stand and say, good morning, general. Yeah. Now, as you know, my dad is a
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Marine general. An actual general. Right. And he said, he told me, he's like, that story alone
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is told me everything I need to know about her. Every single thing I need to know about her is
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encapsulated in that one anecdote. That's right. It's totally right.
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Demand the interns who are not allowed to make eye contact. Stand up when you walk in and say,
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good morning, general. Yeah. You should not have your hands on the levers of power.
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Well, yeah, because it suggests a hollowness, an insecurity, a fear. I mean, again, she's terrified.
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This person is terrified. She's been elevated far beyond her capabilities. And she knows that,
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of course. That's why she's so brittle. And, you know, people like that are really dangerous.
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They're not centered. They don't have limits. Yeah.
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We just took a break and we were laughing about all the things that we can't say on YouTube that we
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bleep. And really, I think the only three categories are if you claim that men cannot become women by
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tapping their heels together and wishing it so. If you claim that the 2020 election, you know,
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that Biden didn't really get more votes than Black Jesus. If you question the election in any way,
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and what's the third? Oh, the VAX. The VAX is great. Everything about the VAX is great.
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It's safe and effective. And if you say anything to the contrary of those, you just get demonetized
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and then they take your channel away. But I think you can say pretty much anything. I think those are
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the only three guidance points I've received. Yeah. So that leaves a lot, doesn't it?
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So, so I just want to make directly clear that I totally believe in the VAX, the 2020 election
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and the tranny stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Full blown. And I saw Bigfoot on the way in here. I don't know
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if people can hear that they say that. I think I did. I saw him on the way in. You know, the earth
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is flat, of course. A hundred percent. That's a moon landing fake. The moon landing is fake.
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I came around to that. I didn't believe it. CIA killed Kennedy. No problem at all.
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Yeah. Yeah. You can, you can say all of that, but so you're saying everything we said before
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that you can, nobody could hear it. No, no one can hear it. No, no, no. I was just endorsing
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those views. I think the VAX is safe and effective. I just want to say that Ivermectin is for,
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it's a horse dewormer or something. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Here's my last,
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because we're trying to turn this around today. So I, I could keep going, but we have to get this
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into edit to bleep all the stuff that YouTube doesn't want you to hear, which you can get on our
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website, tuckercarlson.com uncensored. If you like, here's my question.
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We both agree that there's no chance Kamala Harris gets, quote, elected president except
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through the unremitting lying by the American news media. Like she's their candidate. They
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have to get her across the finish line. This infuriating to me. So infuriating that I don't
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really watch. You have to watch because you have a daily show of all the dishonest media outlets
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out there, which is basically all of them, including the wall street journal. Uh, what
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is the most dishonest? The most dishonest. I, I would say, I guess the people who jump off the
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page at me immediately, I guess there's two shows in particular. One is Morning Joe. Like the,
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the whole cast of Morning Joe, they literally have a character on that show who's called Barnacle.
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Yeah. He hangs on to the show. He's been hanging on for years. Um, but anyway, the, the point is
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like that show, like they'll change their attitudes on a dime just to serve whatever the left wants at
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any given moment. It's really sad. It's pathetic. And they're so angry about Trump. Um, and so that,
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that comes out of, they were Trump cheerleaders. They were Trump cheerleaders and now they're Biden
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cheerleaders or they have been up until Biden got replaced because Biden was close to them. It was the
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show he watched in the morning. So they tailored their programming only to his interests. And
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it's really embarrassing. And I would never. So when they round you up, you and your family
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and put you in some camp or put you on trial for thought crimes, you think Morning Joe
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Just on principle? I don't think so. And I don't think this clip will be the reason for that. I
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think literally they, they, they already know what to think of me. Um, and then it's,
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I know all those people very well and it's sad to see it. I mean, Joe Scarborough is like
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not stupid at all. Joe Scarborough is actually smart. Not that that matters. There's a lot of
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bad, smart people, but, uh, he is not stupid. He's much smarter than your average cable news person.
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But his, like what they're doing doesn't represent, like he was a Florida congressman and, and, and
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then he left and then there was, who's represented by like, like who in Florida would say, yeah,
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that guy's speaking for me. No, no. But what I'm saying is like, he knows, like he, he like Don
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Lamont, something like that. You think, well, does he really know what he's saying? Right. You
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know, no, not really. Um, I don't think he does. I don't think he has any idea what he's saying
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actually, which kind of makes me sort of like him. Joe Scarborough knows exactly what he's
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doing. That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah. Yeah. He's tactical in, in his presentation. No
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question. I mean, and somehow he's thrived amidst all of this. Like, I don't like he and Mika got
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married and now they do the show in, in Florida and they pretend they're in DC and it's like,
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it's all very weird. How's that going? Do they look happy? I haven't seen it in a while.
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I don't know. Is that working for them? I, I, I can't, I, I, I don't know. There's so
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much phoniness on TV. So it's like, everyone's always pretending to be. I know. I don't, I
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don't think it's working that well. As you know, I don't think it's working that well. Um,
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the other show that stands out to me, that's like so cartoonish, but it does have like millions
02:36:05.800
of viewers is The View. Have you actually seen The View? Not like beginning to end. I'm, I'm a clip
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consumer of The View. Yes. Like, just like a lot of people. Like I, I, uh, I, I will never allow somebody
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to tell me what happened and then just reinterpret that event in that way. Like, I hate that. Like
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that happens all the way that happened to you, like throughout your entire career, but especially
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around Fox, like the left always had these views of you that weren't filtered through watching a
02:36:28.720
clip of your show or even, or certainly not the entire show. It was literally what some lefty
02:36:33.440
outlet told them about you. That's their interpretation. They never get it right. I mean,
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I always feel like I have all kinds of obvious faults. I have definitely have some pretty serious
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bigotries. They're just not racial bigotries, but do you know what I mean? They always got it
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wrong. They always, you won't tolerate certain things. That's what bigotry means. There are
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certain kinds of people I don't like, um, at all in a very unreasonable way, but they're not black
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people. Actually, they're affluent, a lot of affluent whites. I just don't like them. Uh,
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especially some of the ladies. I just don't like them. The ones who scream at you. Yeah. The ones
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who scream at me. And I'm, by the way, I'm not defending that that's bigotry, but it's not the kind
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of bigotry they're always accusing me of. It's like, yeah, you're right. I'm a bad person,
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but in a very different way. Can you be like, you'd be more accurate. But if she comes lumbering
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towards you with blue hair, like you enter mask, like you kind of have a read on which way this is
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going. Yeah. But you shouldn't judge people without knowing them, I think, but I do in that way,
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but it was never, they were always like, you know, whatever. Anyway, no. Do people yell at you less
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now? Yeah. Never anymore. I don't go anywhere, you know? Wait, but I mean, in the few times that
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you're at an airport, for instance, do they yell less? Yeah, not at all anymore. Oh, that's good.
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It's interesting. I don't really know what that's about. Well, you know, not having your face on
02:37:47.400
Fox and then the media pretending like you don't exist. Meanwhile, you have the number one podcast
02:37:51.600
in the country. Yeah. Basically, all the lefties who would be conditioned to yell at you don't
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consume whatever everyone else is consuming. I never cared. It never bothered me. Just don't
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come to my house, you know? That was always my view. So anyway, the view, I haven't seen the view in
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a long time. It's just, it's like, it's over the top, like comical cheerleading for like everything
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the left is for. And they're always against Trump at all odds, like at all costs, no matter what he
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does. He's always guilty of everything. He was, he was rightly prosecuted by every Democrat prosecutor
02:38:20.820
in the country. He should be in jail. It's like, it's just. Is Joe Farah's daughter still on there?
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Yeah. And nobody talks about that. He is such a nice man. Joe Farah is a nice man. And he had this
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very low IQ daughter. What is it? It's World Net Daily, right?
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I've known him like 30 years and he's just a nice person. And, but he had this daughter who
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was like an idiot and sad. And she went up in the view, I heard.
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Yeah. Well, nobody holds the Joseph Farah thing against her. Like, meaning I realized that
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you wouldn't hold it against her. But what I'm saying is like the left for years demonized
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So like, like under like, I guess, normal circumstances, anything even related to him,
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they would demonize, but not so with her. Like she's on the show and nobody even brings
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She's, as I remember, is the kind of person who will just say whatever it takes to get
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the acceptance of the people around her. Is she like a regime defender?
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For almost entirely. Occasionally she'll like issue like a squeak of moderation in the midst
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of all of their babbling. But, but no, for the most part, a regime defender is really
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sad and stupid and easy to control. Like a lot of people on TV.
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It's awful. Um, but then like, of course there's like Joy Behar who like once wore blackface
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and she's still like on the show and, uh, you know, Whoopi Goldberg who like clearly
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doesn't do any research. She just wings it entirely. Uh, which is funny.
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Joy Behar. So I did the view once 20 years ago when I worked at CNN, the PR department pushed
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me to do the view. And the only thing, Barbara Walters was there. I remember that. I remember
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I think the whole thing was like so mindless, but Joy Behar was like the screechiest human
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being I'd ever met in my life. Is she still that way?
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A hundred percent. Maybe worse. Probably worse.
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And do you think that like any, any world in which Whoopi Goldberg is moderating whatever
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meaningful, whatever little debates might be breaking out at the table is like crazy.
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One last question. Do you think like, I know that there are very, very few Republican donors
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who, um, are worth much, unfortunately there are some, but not a ton, but I always thought
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like a show, like the view and a person like Joy Behar, that could be such a brilliant disinformation
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campaign. Someone who's so unappealing. So like prima facie repulsive that she pushes people
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away from her position. Could it be that Joy Behar is actually getting funding from
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ex-Republican donor to discredit the other party's program?
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Oh, it's so, it's so crazy. I don't, I, I, I don't even really know how like she got
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jobs. Like, wasn't she on CNN at one point? She had like a headline.
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Anyway, the point is, it's like, it, it still exists. They're still crazy. It makes for
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great fodder for clips. I mean, I love clips from the show because it's so ridiculous. It's
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so easy to eviscerate. It's like Ben Shapiro debating a college student. It's like the easiest
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Yeah. Thank heaven for that. A daily show would be impossible without the rest of the media.
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I remember certain days when I had a daily show. Thank heaven. I don't do that anymore. But
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be like, oh my gosh, it's August. Like, what are we talking about? This is before the
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news went totally crazy all times. But, um, you know, there's always some Tom Fox, our
02:41:50.500
genius producer would always be like, what? I don't know what to write about tonight. He'd
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be like, I'll send you some clips. And they would piss me off so complete.
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You have like Don Lemon saying that a plane disappeared into a black hole.
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And you're like, of course we have to do that. But you know, actually, now that I think
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about it, that may be the one thing he was right about.
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I was just thinking that exact same thing. That was the old Don Lemon. That was like Don
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Lemon before he decided to do whatever Jeff Zuckerberg wanted. Totally. Yeah. And I remember
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mocking him and being like, oh, that's so stupid. Compared to what? Like what's, so what's, what's,
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Yeah. And like, I think it was, I think when he said that there was like a panel of people
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on and everyone looked so embarrassed that he said it out loud.
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But he stuck to it and that was his greatest moment.
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Yes. I totally actually, I'll end with this, his greatest moment ever. And I think I'm,
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correct me if I got this wrong, but he was profiled by like Atlanta magazine or something.
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I remember. I don't remember the magazine specifically, but I think I may be getting
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this wrong, but he's sitting and the reporter is a female reporter, very good writer, this
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woman. I think I know her, but whatever. Anyway, she was, I can't remember who it was, but she's
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having lunch with Don Lemon and he's like, you know, in journalism, you know, think about
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journalism, Vince, those who have been chosen to practice it, to stride its hallowed halls,
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men like Woodward and Bernstein and myself. And he's just giving this like impossibly pompous
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lecture. And the waiter comes up and he's also like fussy and pompous. And Don Lemon goes,
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I'd like some lemon sorbet. And the pompous fussy waiter goes, I'm sure it's actually pronounced
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sorbet, which is like devastating. Actually mispronounced the name of the dessert.
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After trying to impress your dinner guest with how impressive you are.
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But Don Lemon is living in this like airtight bubble of self-esteem that's just impregnable.
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Like you can't violate Don's self-esteem. It's just, it's bulletproof. And so he goes,