00:01:15.960And it's the biggest question of all, which is who runs the world, who gets to make the decisions, not simply who's richest, but who makes the rules, who sets the terms.
00:01:24.420And for most of our lifetimes, there has been no question about that.
00:01:29.700The answer has been the United States.
00:01:34.620That's been true in the Western half of the world since 1945, when the U.S. emerged stronger and richer than any other nation after the end of World War II.
00:01:42.840And it's been true since August of 1991, 35 years ago, after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
00:01:49.440The United States has reigned in a unipolar world.
00:02:47.200And so the question is, since you now have two countries that are roughly evenly matched, we think, we never do know until they come into conflict, but they seem roughly evenly matched, who gets to set the terms for commerce and diplomacy and everything else that happens on the globe?
00:03:05.960Well, if you were to reach a diplomatic solution, there would be, in effect, a power sharing agreement between these two countries.
00:03:22.420But one of the reasons is almost nobody in Washington can get his head around the current, present, obvious reality, which is, no, we don't run everything anymore.
00:03:32.940We are in competition, not necessarily in conflict, but in competition with this other country that's at least as powerful as we are, called China, different system, language, culture, et cetera.
00:03:46.900And so you can't make unilateral decisions anymore.
00:03:49.500It's sort of that moment that many parents face when used to barking orders at their kids.
00:03:53.880They realize the kid is taller than them and, like, it's a new relationship in some ways.
00:03:58.220You're always the parent, but you can't just bark orders anymore.
00:04:00.920That's pretty much where we are with China, or maybe a little past that, actually.
00:04:04.180And what we've noticed over the past several years is the total unwillingness, the inflexibility of Washington policymakers to just acknowledge the reality.
00:04:14.700And instead, even as we speak, there's probably some symposium underway in Washington about what will we do if China invades Taiwan?
00:04:24.220Well, of course, from China's perspective, Taiwan is part of China.
00:04:27.460It's just sort of run off for the past 75 years, but it's still part of China.
00:04:39.920And yet only in D.C. is that not obvious, which is to say people in Washington are still acting like they're running everything unopposed, but they're not.
00:04:49.740And the rest of the world is looking on and thinking at some point you've got to knock it off and face reality.
00:04:56.800Now, there are a lot of people in the United States, me included, who would like to live in a unipolar world.
00:05:00.860And, you know, it's way less fun to be constrained, to have to come to terms with another country before you make a decision.
00:05:09.560But again, it's sort of not up to us or anyone, the moment that you live in.
00:05:16.940You're not in charge of reality, actually.
00:05:20.400And so this is the reality we live in.
00:05:22.740And the question is, are we going to come to terms with it in a reasonable way, or are we going to be forced through use of arms to face that reality?
00:05:33.220And it looks increasingly like the latter.
00:05:36.280Unfortunately, that is not the way to settle matters like this, because you can emerge greatly diminished from those contests and find yourself in a much weaker negotiating position.
00:05:48.520Better negotiate while you're strong than when you're weak.
00:05:51.240But our leaders weren't wise or farsighted enough to do that.
00:05:57.340Seized by hubris, they were dictating terms, like Baghdad Bob.
00:06:09.980Well, because these questions are always decided by proxy.
00:06:13.480No two great powers want to go to war with each other, of course, especially in the nuclear age, because that could mean simultaneous elimination.
00:06:20.020And no one wants that, at least consciously.
00:06:24.100And so typically these things play out in third countries, like Vietnam, famously, or Afghanistan for both the Soviets and the United States, or Korea, and now Iran.
00:06:34.920Iran, which is part of an alliance that includes the other big powers, Russia and China.
00:06:39.720So they may not be explicitly weighing in, which is to say they're not fighting alongside the Iranians yet.
00:06:45.540But they're certainly on Iran's side, and they're certainly helping in a multitude of ways, one expects.
00:06:52.340And a lot, for them, rides on the outcome.
00:06:55.640And because it does, it makes it harder to settle this thing.
00:06:59.880So that's the geopolitical, very obvious overlay here.
00:07:03.640That's why this is not just a debate about whether the Ayatollah has nuclear weapons.
00:07:25.560Now, Lindsey Graham is on tape saying to a gaggle of reporters, his bloodshot eyes, his puffy face, God knows what he's been doing, saying explicitly, this is a religious war.
00:07:57.120And that is not obvious to most Americans because this is the most secular society, not just the United States, but the West, the English-speaking world, Europe, and the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, in history.
00:08:10.200There's never been a more godless, to be blunt about it, a more secular society at scale.
00:08:18.980Nothing approaching this has ever happened, ever.
00:08:21.400Every society is fundamentally a religious society.
00:08:24.180It's not explicitly religious except ours.
00:08:26.760So we lack the terms to describe what we're seeing, and we lack the imagination to think about it.
00:08:34.720And, well, to quote Jesus, we have the eyes, but we cannot see.
00:08:40.460We don't see what's happening around us, but the rest of the world very much does see.
00:08:44.660So you often hear people talk about the Middle East crisis, and they usually mean energy.
00:08:48.240You know, people want the oil, the gas.
00:08:49.820But traditionally, when people have talked about the Middle East, they're talking about Jerusalem.
00:08:55.720We're talking about the holiest spot on earth.
00:08:57.660Let's be a lot more specific when we say the holiest spot on earth.
00:09:01.200The holiest spot on earth is something called the foundation stone.
00:09:03.280The foundation stone is literally a rock in Jerusalem on what used to be called Mount Moriah, which was, at one point, the highest place in the oldest part of Jerusalem.
00:09:13.320And it's on that spot, on that rock, on that stone, that Jews believe the world began, that the Old Testament or the Jewish Torah tells us that Abraham brought Isaac bound to be sacrificed to God.
00:09:29.560And it's on that spot that Muslims believe that the prophet Muhammad ascended into heaven.
00:09:39.220And, of course, it's right nearby that Christians believe Jesus was crucified and then rose to heaven.
00:09:48.520So on that spot or right nearby, a lot has happened.
00:09:52.820But critically on that spot, because it was the place where Abraham brought Isaac, and again, to American ears,
00:09:59.560this sounds weird, but to the rest of the world, it's like, yeah, everyone knows this, because it's the center of their lives.
00:10:04.580On that spot, Solomon built his famous temple.
00:10:09.820Now, in the Torah, it says pretty clearly, and correct me if I'm misreading it, that Jews, followers of God, can only publicly worship God and sacrifice on that spot, in that city, Jerusalem, on that spot.
00:10:27.400And on that spot was built a temple, the first temple.
00:10:29.780Now, that was destroyed by the Babylonians, famously.
00:10:32.440And then it was rebuilt and later improved by Herod.
00:10:36.100And it was, at its completion, I think, the largest building, certainly the largest religious building in the ancient world.
00:10:43.760And it was in that building that Jesus preached, in what we call the second temple that Jesus preached, the very center of Judaism, building without which you can't really have Torah Judaism.
00:10:54.040The religion just sort of didn't work without it.
00:10:57.120By its own terms, in its own book, it said that.
00:10:59.600And during one of his sermons, in that sermon, Jesus, who Christians believe is God sent to earth, says, this will be torn down.
00:11:27.920About 35 years later, 37 years later, in that range, in 70 AD, Titus, the emperor, the Roman Empire, of the Roman Empire, got into quite a conflict with the Jews of Judea and Jerusalem.
00:11:43.940And it's complex and incredibly brutal, but the bottom line was, in AD 70, the Romans besieged Jerusalem, finally broke through the walls, and tore that temple stone from stone.
00:12:04.860Really a kind of dedication to destruction that's hard for the modern mind to imagine.
00:12:08.920We talk about genocide, this genocide that the Romans tried to genocide the Jews for real.
00:12:14.560And they succeeded in destroying the temple.
00:12:16.760And with it, temple Judaism, Torah Judaism.
00:12:22.020You can't have the religion that existed before AD 70, after AD 70, because there's no temple.
00:12:30.520And so this has been an open wound for 2,000 years, and certainly, understandably, people have wanted to rebuild the temple, to build what they call the third temple.
00:12:40.100For example, to reestablish this religion at its birthplace, there are a couple problems with this.
00:12:48.580One, exactly 500 years after Titus destroyed the temple in AD 70, in AD 570, a man called Muhammad was born in Mecca and built one of the world's great religions,
00:13:05.980the world's second largest religion, as it stands today, in a very short period.
00:13:15.320But in the meantime, he built or inspired the building of, within 50 years of his death, one of the great religious monuments in the world,
00:13:23.880certainly one of the prettiest, called the Dome of the Rock, and it's in Jerusalem on Moriah, in fact, built over the foundation stone.
00:13:31.320And if you've ever been to Jerusalem, or if you've ever seen photographs of it, you will remember vividly a gold dome.
00:14:30.800Because now is the moment, right now, like this week, is the moment that some people, not a huge number, most people, Christians, Jews, Muslims, are not fully aware of all this.
00:14:42.100But some people are highly aware of it and would like to begin the process of tearing down the Dome of the Rock, tearing down Al-Aqsa Mosque, and rebuilding the third temple.
00:14:55.600Now, there are a lot of things to say about this, about its likelihood, the potential effects of it.
00:15:01.240But first, just a quick side note on the theology of this, from a Christian point of view.
00:15:08.340Now, it was Jesus who said, this temple will be torn down.
00:15:11.640Shocking everyone around to me, if it's in the Gospels.
00:15:14.140It's in at least a couple of the Gospels.
00:15:16.860And the people who heard it just couldn't believe it.
00:15:18.560And of course, the people running the temple, the Pharisees and the Sadducees, were gravely offended by it.
00:16:35.240He was the last non-Christian emperor of Rome, of the Roman Empire.
00:16:39.900And he had been born a Christian, apparently, but he was a fairly enthusiastic pagan polytheist and very aggressively opposed to Christianity.
00:16:51.460And for that reason, he decided, Julian the Apostate decided in 363 to rebuild the third temple.
00:17:00.840So it has been tried, for those who are thinking, could this ever happen?
00:21:09.760And there's this one attempt by a guy who hates Christianity to rebuild the Third Temple.
00:21:13.660And by the way, the workmen get burned by fire from the ground at an earthquake.
00:21:17.080And you can sort of laugh at that if you're a rationalist, a materialist, a modern man, until archaeologists discovered that actually there was a big earthquake in the region, Galilee to Jerusalem in 363.
00:21:39.080Now, there are key players involved in this war, the one happening tonight, who believe that what we're seeing on our television screens and on Twitter will usher in a series of events that begin with the destruction of the Dome and the Rock, Aksa Mosque, and then the rebuilding of the Third Temple, after which the world will end.
00:22:07.000And by they, we mean literally some of the guys fighting the war.
00:22:12.520So you may have read reports today that commanders in the field of American troops, a lot of them, and who knows if this is true, but it's out there, told their troops on the eve of the outbreak of this war that we're doing this for Jesus because it is Jesus' will that we do this.
00:22:32.600And that by doing it, we will usher in a series of events that bring about the end of history, the end of time, Armageddon, the last days.
00:22:39.900It's hard to believe that's true, especially since, by the way, there are a million Christians in Iran.
00:22:47.660So if you were doing this for Jesus, presumably you would go out of your way not to hurt his followers in the country you're attacking.
00:22:55.340Did the U.S. government or any government make any attempt to spare the Christians?
00:23:00.800And of course, when the smoke clears, ultimately we will find out, just a guess, that Christians suffered disproportionately in this as they do all wars, from the Iraq War to the bombing of Nagasaki, the seat of the Christian church in Japan, et cetera, et cetera.
00:23:16.380Christians have a way of dying disproportionately in these wars, which tells you something about their real motive.
00:23:22.440But in any case, there was a spate of stories suggesting that U.S. commanders told their troops they were doing this for some weird anti-Christian reason, posing as Christianity.
00:24:38.760Now, if you think we're just cherry picking this off the Internet, one guy wearing an unauthorized temple patch paid for, by the way, a uniform paid by us, armaments paid for by us.
00:24:50.260The U.S. taxpayer pays for all this stuff one way or another.
00:24:54.060The U.S. taxpayer pays for the military of Israel.
00:25:20.040And we'll get to a minute, in a minute, about how this might actually happen and what it would mean for the rest of the world.
00:25:29.600And just to be clear, these are conversations that most Americans, certainly me included, never wanted to have.
00:25:37.420Everybody's religious beliefs, sincere religious beliefs, when held up to the light of the rational world, to the man-made world, seem a little spooky and crazy,
00:25:46.460which is one of the reasons that, in the culture some of us grew up in, we don't talk about them in public because they're personal.
00:25:53.460They're the most personal part of a person.
00:25:57.340So it is without judgment, by the way, that we're airing this, okay?
00:26:05.320Just describing it because it is significant to the future of the world, to the future of this war, and to our future as Americans.
00:26:14.980So how exactly did the IDF, the Israel Defense Forces, a military that the U.S. taxpayer pays for, that lots of wealthy Americans send money to, to friends of the IDF,
00:26:27.580how did all these guys wind up wearing patches suggesting the point of this war was the destruction of one of the holiest places in Islam
00:26:39.600and the rebuilding of a temple that is totally anathema to Christianity?
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00:50:16.320And they're going to now shiftāthe Air Force and the Israeli Air Force are going to shift now to flying large sorties of warplanes into Iran
00:50:26.980and bombing targets with what are known as gravity bombs.
00:50:30.840And these are things like the Joint Directed Attack Munitions, JDAMs.
00:50:34.740They require you to be close to the target.
00:50:36.820So the risk factor to our pilots is now increasing exponentially.
00:50:41.940But I would just like to posit a theory, and it's just a theory.
00:50:45.420I actually think the real reason we are doing this shift is not because of realities or facts on the ground that are amenable to the U.S. and Israeli strategic position.
00:50:58.380I think we are being dictated to by the depletion of our stockpiles.
00:51:04.060And what I mean by that, I have some numbers for your audience.
00:51:06.840We all know the Tomahawk cruise missile going back to the Clinton era where he would just pop those things off, you know, as soon as the Lewinsky impeachment got underway.
00:51:16.4604,000 Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles are believed to be in the arsenal.
00:51:22.100We have been draining those since 2022, 2023 in Ukraine at a disproportionate rate.
00:51:28.960In the last four days of this conflict, we have expended 400 of those systems, which means that's 100 per day with the operational and tempo not ceasing.
00:51:42.280In 2026, the budget request was only for 59 new missiles.
00:51:50.780The reason we're getting such low numbers, Tucker, is because our defense industrial base is broken and we have no business starting a world war or a major regional war as we are in the process of doing.
00:52:02.840So I believe the real reason the U.S. and Israeli militaries are starting to get more daring and dangerous with their airstrikes is because they cannot afford to blow through the munitions that are already depleting.
00:52:17.120And it is, in fact, a race to depletion between us and Iran.
00:52:22.080And right now, I think the Iranians still have a very sizable, unused, increasingly sophisticated missile arsenal.
00:52:30.320Colonel Rob Maness is a friend of mine.
00:52:40.740And Hegseth made a sort of argument about that today, that there was a decrease.
00:52:44.940But I actually think that those dead enders, if that's what you want to call them, actually are probably still combat effective.
00:52:52.760And that is why we are now having to still continue the war, even though we have blown through these standoff munitions, which really were protecting our people.
00:53:02.120In fact, I got word from a source of mine who's monitoring this on open source, which it looks like the USS Abraham Lincoln is going to be repositioned to within anti-ship ballistic missile range of Iran.
00:53:15.980So either the U.S. really believes we've degraded the Iranian capabilities sufficiently, or we're just throwing caution to the wind because we've got to get this thing over before we run out of materials.
00:53:28.480And that'll probably start happening this weekend.
00:53:30.360This is not a surprise to people who watched carefully the few days in the run-up to this conflict where there were uniformed servicemen.
00:53:41.780I mean, there were flag officers who apparently made this case.
00:53:52.080Yeah, in fact, it is my understanding, and this is, again, take from this what you will, it is my understanding that last Friday the order went out at 3.38 p.m. Eastern.
00:54:03.700Before that, there was a, quote, particularly contentious meeting between General Dan Raisin Cain, who is Trump's hand-picked chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:54:14.880He was pulled out of retirement by Trump.
00:54:17.500So this is Trump's guy, and Cain tried to get to the word to the president that this thing is not going to go like you think it is.
00:54:27.820And the president, for whatever reason, still decided to ignore the best military advice he got and went forward with this.
00:54:34.920In turn, Vice Admiral Fred Kotcher, who was an adjutant, basically, to Cain, leaked parts of that meeting to, I think it was Reuters.
00:54:43.780Now, the question that I've been hearing from people is, was that Kotcher acting on his own volition, or was that, in fact, Kotcher executing some kind of informal order from Dan Cain?
00:54:57.180Because Cain is, the rest of the military is very, the high level, is very worried about the blowback from this operation.
00:55:05.940And it is my contention that the permanent bureaucracy is desperately trying to push blame away from itself to the politicians, and even as we're seeing Marco Rubio now, to Israel itself.
00:55:18.260Which is not how a winning war would look like.
00:55:24.440So, do you have any insight into how the decision was made to kill Iran's head of state slash chief cleric?
00:55:34.080And this has not been a conversation anyone's been willing to have, because, of course, the proponents of it have been screaming about how he's Hitler, he's the worst person, if there's any question about whether it's a good idea to kill him, you're an Ayatollah lover, you know, just the normal low IQ crap that you see on Fox News.
00:55:53.760So, again, this is all, you know, background and sort of piecing the puzzle together with what I know about how it works up in that horrible city we call D.C.
00:56:05.140But basically, what it sounds like is the administration used the idea of diplomatic talks to lull Kamani into a false sense of security.
00:56:17.640We were going into a holy week at that time, and the Iranians wanted, or Kamani wanted to basically come out of his hole.
00:56:25.720And he thought, OK, we're going to get a reprieve.
00:56:28.960We'll kick this down the road until Monday, which I think was March 2nd.
00:56:32.540They got the word on Friday that, hey, we're open to negotiating.
00:56:36.080So Kamani and his cadre let their guard down.
00:56:39.760And at the moment they did, Israeli missiles were fired at a very interesting, it was actually, if I can nerd out here for a second,
00:56:46.640the Israelis did a very interesting performance with their missile where they fired it into space from, I believe, F-16s or F-35s.
00:56:54.800It went into the space above Iran and came down at hypersonic velocities, and it came within millimeters of the known position of Kamani.
00:57:04.940So from a tactical standpoint, yes, it was very technically impressive.
00:57:10.340But the key thing here was that the U.S. used its honor to lull the counterparty into a false sense of security using our diplomatic word that, hey, we're going to hold off and try to talk to you.
00:57:25.080And I actually think, and I say this as somebody who's a fan of Steve Witkoff, I actually think Witkoff and probably Kushner were probably in on the whole thing to basically lull the Iranian leader into a false sense of security so we could clip him.
00:57:39.540And I think, Tucker, I think the assumption was that if we lopped off the head of the regime, Kamani, that the whole thing would implode like a house of cards in about 72 hours,
00:57:51.700which is why I think Trump didn't really care when Dan Cain was warning him last Friday that, hey, we've got eight days of munitions and CENTCOM before we have to start cannibalizing Indopaycom,
00:58:01.540and then we have a real crisis on our hands. I think Trump was thinking, we can probably do this at about 24 to 72 hours. We'll get Kamani, the Israelis will, and then it'll all work out. It's all going to work out.
00:58:14.520And obviously, nobody took the time to brief the president on, and I could have done it, I wrote a whole book about it, on basically what the Iranians have been doing for pretty much 47 years to harden their regime and to make it relatively survivable.
00:58:31.080And that is why now we find ourselves, what is it, day four or day five now? And they're already having to panic and change the munition structure because we're depleting them too fast.
00:58:42.300This is why, by the way, the heads of those defense companies are now being summoned to the White House, because Trump is going to try to read those leaders, the riot act, saying you've got to boost production.
00:58:52.720And they're going to say to him, sorry, we can't do it because the defense industrial base is both broken and corrupt.
00:58:59.820I don't know the truth about what you said about the diplomacy as a cover for action lulling Kamani into vulnerability.
00:59:09.880I have heard just the opposite, that the Israelis are telling everybody that the U.S. knew the strike was going to happen,
00:59:16.780and they're doing that to shake the faith of any of our partners in the region in our diplomacy and make us sound dissent.
00:59:23.500That would, well, obviously, like I said, take from this because this is all, you know, I don't have evidence of this to present to you.
00:59:32.560But I find it, just if I can speculate here for a moment, I find it impossible or improbable to think,
00:59:40.460given the level of fusion between the U.S. and Israeli command and the, I mean, for goodness sakes,
00:59:47.000there are Israeli officers permanently stationed in the Pentagon, and I was just told by a former CIA case officer at Langley.
00:59:53.720So, basically, I find it really hard to believe that the administration did not have any involvement in this.
01:00:02.460Now, they want to say that they didn't, and I think they are saying this because they're worried that there's going to be significant political
01:00:08.140and possibly legal blowback, you know, over time because this war is, anyway.
01:00:14.500But, so, I don't believe that particular story when they say, oh, we had nothing to do with it.
01:00:19.320I think we probably did not have an active role in the sense of bombardment, but I do believe that we were aware of what was going to happen,
01:00:26.400and I think we probably nudged it along.
01:00:28.420If that's true, that's one of the craziest things that's ever happened.
01:00:31.320I mean, we're trying to negotiate an end to the war we've been waging against Russia, which is right at theā
01:00:45.520They're all Pashtuns, you know, living in the Hindu Kush, but they're not, actually.
01:00:49.020They're really smart, and they look at this and, like, why would we enter into negotiations with the same negotiating team that just did this?
01:00:56.840So, okay, but here's my macro question, which is, what about the safety of the United States?
01:01:02.460Like, when you kill an 86-year-old leader of a global religion, which Islam is, it's the smaller but still enormous branch of Islam,
01:01:12.380you're going to expect to create religious extremism.
01:01:15.800You kill the religious leader during Ramadan?
01:01:17.960Like, was there no one in the roomāand I know you're not supposed to say this because it makes you, like, a Muslim lover or something.
01:01:24.960I just want to say this as a Jesus person, but as an American who wants peace in my own country.
01:01:29.560Nobody stood up and said, like, hey, what are we doing here?
01:01:34.800Like, we're going to create a generational war that our grandkids are going to have to deal with at the shopping mall.
01:01:42.700No, I think General Cain was the closest, and he was making sort of a tactical, technical argument.
01:01:49.600And I have to say, as much as I do like the general, and I do like him, I think he's a decent guy.
01:01:53.720I think he's gone down in my book a little bit because he didn't resign in protest, because whatever they're saying in public, the logisticsāit's like math.
01:02:21.940And so I'm starting to remember COVID, and two weeks to flatten the curve became, you know, years of, you know, dealing with fallout.
01:02:30.940So I am very concerned that the president has really bad advisors.
01:02:36.600These are not people that I think have the best interests of MAGA or America First, the coalition that got him elected, in their hearts.
01:02:46.460I think these are deep staters masquerading as MAGA lovers.
01:02:50.960And I think that this is why we're here.
01:02:53.460This is one of the most strategically irresponsible moves I've ever seen.
01:02:59.160And the fact that the president, I don't believe, was informed the truth about what was going to happen and the way it was going to happen,
01:03:07.820I think now that's why you're seeing the administration expanding the war, talking about giving Kurds weapons and money,
01:03:16.020and we're going to now expand it into Iraq and destabilize Iraq as if that's another thing we need on our plate.
01:03:22.480This, to me, is somebody who, this, to me, is a country that has made a very serious mistake with triggering this war,
01:03:29.360and now they're just making the mess bigger and bigger and bigger, hoping that they can clean it up once it's totally, you know, out of hand,
01:03:36.480or maybe they don't even want to clean it up.
01:04:33.140What he said was you don't get as much of a loss and they tend to really accelerate when the market goes up, which obviously sounds too good to be true.
01:04:42.820We know this is happening because we talk to people who work inside these companies.
01:04:46.160The reality is there is no regulation.
01:04:49.080And then we talk to people who lost their savings.
01:04:50.980They were pumping this company and I trusted them.
01:04:53.720Even as the price of gold rises, it's so crushing.
01:05:25.620So, let me, I mean, you look at this and it's so heartbreaking and it's so potentially catastrophic that you keep thinking, all right, point made, can we pull back?
01:05:36.980Can we just pull back and declare victory and go home in the famous phrase?
01:05:40.160Are we at a place where that's possible?
01:05:42.600Well, I'm reminded of a 2004 interview that Donald Trump gave to your old colleague, Neil Cavuto.
01:05:49.440And it was during the Iraq war at the height of the insurgency.
01:05:52.840And at the time, everybody made fun of Trump, but I thought it was brilliant.
01:05:56.500Trump told George W. Bush on that interview, he said, listen, just declare victory.
01:06:27.580It's a golden off ramp, but he's got to take it in the next probably 48 hours because if he doesn't take it, Tucker, this thing takes on a life of its own.
01:06:37.060The Iranians are not going to surrender.
01:06:39.220They're not going to stop popping off missiles.
01:06:41.200They have planned for this, like I said, for 47 years.
01:06:49.040And the oil coming out of the region is not coming out of the region.
01:06:52.860We are now looking at spikes in the price of energy.
01:06:56.440I saw a report from Seeking Alpha, which is an investment publication, saying that if this continues for four to eight weeks, this could take oil over $200 a barrel.
01:07:06.880Now, that's recession territory going into a midterm election.
01:07:17.760But I mean, listen, they're destroying ā they're not just blockading the strait.
01:07:22.700They're destroying the refineries in Qatar, in Saudi Arabia, and the Qataris are saying they're not going to get this stuff online for months, if not years.
01:07:32.600So that's going to be a gaping hole in the global economy for oil and natural gas.
01:07:38.380So even if Trump gets a, quote, victory here in Iran ā and I don't even know what victory looks like anymore ā we're going to be cleaning up this mess economically for many, many years thereafter.
01:07:58.080You can imagine working through those problems and convincing yourself that it was worth it somehow, or, you know, you could concoct a story to tell yourself.
01:08:05.980There are certain things that are not possible to recover from, and one is the use of unconventional, highly destructive weapons that just change the calculation forever.
01:08:19.180And I worry about that, and everyone I ask about it is, oh, no, no, no, that would never happen.
01:08:26.920So ā and I think I tweeted about this in the last 24 hours.
01:08:30.480Trump responded to what I've been writing, and I'm not going to get into how I know that, but he ā somebody told him what I've been writing, and he's quite cross with me.
01:08:39.660And, you know, I'm a three-time supporter of Trump.
01:08:43.040I'm saying this out of love, you know, not out of hate.
01:08:45.460But I was told that the statement he made yesterday in the Oval Office was partly ā was responding to my claims about the stockpiles, and he said something very specific.
01:08:58.620He said not only we have enough weapons to fight a, quote, forever war, which, holy cow, but he said that, you know, we're depleted a little bit on the ā and I'm paraphrasing ā on the lower-level weapons.
01:09:10.760But we've got enough higher-end and middle-tier weapons to fight forever.
01:09:15.680Well, the higher-end weapons would be things like, I don't know, low-yield nuclear weapons.
01:09:22.120And, you know, you don't want to think that an American president would go there, especially over something like this, where we weren't attacked, which we were not.
01:09:31.000And I'm not a fan of the Iranian regime, and they do support terror, but we were not attacked.
01:09:38.300This was all sort of the machinations of Netanyahu's worst fears.
01:09:42.760And it is my concern that if we truly are reaching depletion, that we might have an incident where a nuke is used.
01:09:54.460And, you know, it's not the likeliest, but it's no longer impossible.
01:09:59.680It's now moved into sort of the realm of it could happen.
01:10:03.000And the longer this goes on and the more that we run through these stockpiles, and if we start losing planes to some of the remaining Iranian air defense systems, then we're going to have some problems.
01:10:16.320And I want to also say something about the strategic side.
01:10:19.500I was on Bannon's show earlier today, and one of the guests was basically saying I was wrong, and maybe I am.
01:10:27.800But he was saying that we've got local air superiority, and from there we'll be able to grow out and go farther.
01:10:34.220And the only reason you get local air superiority is because you've degraded the enemy so much.
01:10:39.320Well, yes and no, but that's just a small slice of a very large country.
01:10:44.700They probably, in Iran, if they've decentralized those missile capabilities to the local commander level, anticipating that we would degrade command and control, they likely have hidden and decentralized their air defense capabilities.
01:11:00.240And that means we have to do sort of a long-term air defense hunt.
01:11:04.220And in the meanwhile, the Iranians are still combat effective.
01:11:07.380And the longer this lasts, the longer that strait is closed down, the more the oil is disrupted.
01:11:13.260And basically, the more we get to these really nightmare scenarios, in my book I said, a war over Iran will likely trigger a World War III.
01:11:26.100I remain convinced that we are at the opening salvo of a true world war, and it's happening because of our actions and the actions of our partner, Israel.
01:11:37.120I would say, even more precisely, it's happening because of Benjamin Netanyahu and the hammerlock he has over the American government, including Mossad officers at CIA headquarters and IDF officers at the Pentagon.
01:11:52.560Yeah, that one came from a ā you would know this individual.
01:11:57.220I got off the phone with him about an hour before I came on with you, and it's scary.
01:12:03.160I mean, remember, though, Gary Vogler, who wrote a great book for the Libertarian Institute, it was called, I think, Israel was the winner of the 2003 Iraq War, something like that.
01:12:13.280He was an oil guy working for the Coalition Provisional Authority, and he identified this guy named Mikofsky, who was a Pentagon bureaucrat who ran the Iraq War desk for the first part of the Iraq War in 2003.
01:12:26.040And he was a Mossad officer, not just IDF, and he was Doug Feith's son-in-law.
01:12:31.320So, you know, this is ā you know, our country is unfortunately not being run entirely by the United States and the American people.
01:12:39.840No, it doesn't ā you don't see a lot of sovereignty.
01:12:41.400I'll get emails for that one, I'm sure.
01:12:58.880In fact, I got an interesting report from overseas yesterday.
01:13:02.360And again, you know, these are sort of ā I take with a grain of salt, but they've been ā and when they're right, though, they're really right.
01:13:08.080This one came from our friends in Russia.
01:13:11.060But the report that I received was a retired Russian general is telling the press over there that he knows for a fact there is a cluster of Chinese high-tech officers or technical officers on the ground in Iran right now perfecting and maintaining Iran's growing ā they're still building them ā growing hypersonic weapons capability.
01:13:35.380And the reason is because the Chinese want to test these systems because they're basically very similar to the Chinese ASBM, which, of course, when and if ā and I really hope it's if ā the war with China erupts.
01:13:48.720The first thing the Chinese are going to do after they knock out our satellites and disrupt our electromagnetic frequencies is they're going to use thousands of ASBMs ringed in those man-made islands to either keep our carriers at bay so that we can't launch planes in range or to sink or destroy the carrier's flight deck.
01:14:09.860And the Iranians are the ā Iran, rather, is the testbed the same way that we've been using Ukraine as a testbed against Russian tech.
01:14:50.820So basically their ability to control their systems and issue commands.
01:14:55.280That's why before the war began, the Iranians basically ā the government said to their local field commanders,
01:15:03.240we're going to give you permission to take command of your individual missile batteries so that if something like killing Kamani happens,
01:15:09.820you can just start going and you won't have to call in for orders or for range.
01:15:14.320And by the way, the Chinese are using their Yaogon ā I think it's their Yaogon satellite constellation ā to do surveillance of the carrier and of the U.S. air bases in the region.
01:15:25.180And they are providing increasingly accurate targeting sets to the Iranians.
01:15:30.640In fact, I believe the reason the Iranian missiles have been so effective in damaging our bases ā and boy, have they done a doozy.
01:15:57.200And the Chinese are more than happy to see us stew.
01:16:02.020Now there's this like story that the politicians keep telling us.
01:16:07.660It's really the Republican side that keeps saying this that, well, you know, we went after Venezuela and we went after Iran and that's going to really kill China because they rely on these countries for their oil.
01:16:19.280The Chinese got less than I think 4 percent of their oil from Venezuela.
01:16:24.140It was a nuisance, if anything, to lose.
01:16:26.940If anything, they were sinking more money into rebuilding the refining capacity because the communists had ruined the oil industry in Venezuela over 25 years.
01:16:35.580And then with Iran, they get at most, I think, I think 14 percent of their oil and natural gas from Iran.
01:16:43.440What they were doing is the Chinese knew because they could read the room.
01:16:48.700So what they started doing was shifting their purchases of oil from Iran to places like neighboring Russia and to other Middle Eastern countries.
01:16:59.360In fact, I think that the largest amount of oil purchased by China in Saudi Arabia occurred two weeks before the war began.
01:17:09.480So while this will hurt the Chinese, absolutely, economically, it's not going to trigger a collapse.
01:17:16.140It's not the Chinese were prepared for this just as the Russians were prepared for what we were going to throw at them in 2022.
01:17:22.520These regimes have been studying us for years, for years, and they know our pressure points.
01:17:29.840And, you know, we're like the gentle giant.
01:17:39.340And, you know, we're trying to lecture the world about, you know, transgendered rights in Namibia.
01:17:44.300And, you know, these guys are playing hardball and they're playing for keeps.
01:17:48.320And I was actually speaking to Brendan O'Reilly, who's probably one of the foremost China scholars, real real world intelligence type scholar practitioner.
01:17:57.280He wrote a great book called Everybody Is Everyone Is Wrong About China.
01:18:01.240And I just talked to him this afternoon and he tells me he's convinced that at the end of the day, the real winner of this conflict is China.
01:19:48.000And the problem is it's really what makes them very interesting is they come in fast and then they sort of zigzag unpredictably right before they land.
01:19:56.360And this is the problem for our AD systems, our air defense systems, because they sort of just track and then go.
01:20:04.120But if you've got a target coming in and then they, you know, those 80 systems are not because the 80 systems are older and they they're they're based on older generation being able to track incoming regular ballistic missiles.
01:20:16.120So this is where we get real concern because we I don't think we really know how many hypersonic weapons they've got.
01:20:24.540I would imagine they've got at least I would say at least 100 or so because they've been just churning them out and the Chinese have been helping them.
01:20:32.240And of course, the Chinese have overmatched with us in terms of industrial mass production.
01:20:38.740What is the damage right now to Israel and to and to U.S. bases in the Gulf, do you think?
01:20:44.140Well, well, well, the the the bases in the Gulf, you know, I wish I had kept the window open that I was reading, but basically at least three of the bases have been devastated.
01:20:54.840The fifth fleet headquarters, I am told.
01:20:58.380And if you look at the satellite imagery that you can find on open source information, it looks like actually the base in Bahrain looks like Gaza.
01:21:07.340So the the American fifth fleet now, I don't believe I don't know if there's any because I think we might have evacuated that base before this started.
01:21:15.920So I don't I don't want to say there's casualties because I don't know.
01:21:19.040But just looking at those satellite images that it looks like that's been flattened.
01:21:24.180And that's a very expensive base that you and I paid for.
01:21:28.560And that was the sort of the hub for the U.S. Navy in the Middle East for many years.
01:21:34.260And it has been completely taken offline.
01:21:38.660I was talking also to a Middle East expert not long ago, and he was saying that with these bases being obliterated, basically, to use a term, a term, essentially, he doesn't think because he thinks the Arabs are going to be so irate with us for having kicked over this hornet's nest because it is not going to end anytime soon.
01:21:57.540And his belief is that once the war does end or settles down enough for us to say, hey, we're good, we're done, the Arabs are going to say, you're not building back in our in our countries anymore.
01:23:19.200So I do believe, yeah, we probably did.
01:23:21.380And the worst part here, one of the worst parts is I have a colleague who's in the Gulf states, and he tells me, he sent me a picture of the warning he got from the State Department to get out.
01:23:33.880And to cut to the chase, it basically said, you're on your own to get out.
01:23:40.400And meanwhile, I hear that until 24 hours ago, the British government was evacuating their people, no questions asked.
01:23:47.180So you mean to tell me that the sole superpower is picking a fight with this missile city that is Iran, and we're not even going to provide exfiltration for our people?
01:24:41.840But I was, as I said, a very early supporter of Hegseth as Secretary of Defense.
01:24:47.960I thought his takes on hypersonics were good.
01:24:50.320I thought that he was a warfighter, so he understood in a way that maybe you and I could never understand.
01:24:55.380But I was mortified by his press conference this morning, the glibness, six Americans are dead because of a political decision that was made.
01:25:05.200Obviously, I don't expect him to challenge the president on this publicly.
01:25:08.160But at the very least, it's a solemn day.
01:25:10.440And we should probably not be acting like this is just another walk in the park because this is not.
01:25:52.560And I can tell you right now, if the president went into this air war thinking I'm going to be over in three or four days, I don't have to worry about the stockpiles.
01:25:59.840And now he's waking up and going, holy cow, everything's running out, and I've got to keep fighting.
01:26:04.840He's talking about now opening up a front in Iraq using the Kurds, which is lunacy.
01:27:04.500Survive long enough because they know, because the Chinese and Russians are giving them the intel, they know that our stockpiles are about to be depleted.
01:27:12.000So all they have to do is hold out until we have to start cannibalizing Indo-Paycom.
01:27:16.400And there's going to be a real political fight at that point.
01:27:18.680I'm told that Indo-Paycom leaders are already raising quite a stink behind the scenes because they know once those systems are gone out of their arsenal, they ain't coming back anytime soon.
01:27:28.780So the question of ground troops, this gets us to that.
01:27:32.480I don't believe it would ever be an invasion like Iraq in 03.
01:27:35.960First of all, we don't have that capability anymore, which should scare every American because we don't have that capability anymore.
01:27:42.100Second of all, the way the country is arrayed, Trump is trying to do this in like a light footprint methodology.
01:27:48.740So he, I think, is going to replicate the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan in 2001, where we sent a bunch of special forces A-teams and CIA paramilitaries, infiltrated the country, linked up with already organized locals.
01:28:05.360It was the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, this time it'll probably be the Mujahideen-i-Kalk, M-E-K, to try to basically organize a movement with the Kurds coming in probably from the Iraqi side in the, I think it's the north, I think it's the northwest of the country, and will be coming in from the south.
01:28:25.920And it will kind of link up in whatever's left of Tehran.
01:28:29.060That's the plan, I think, using air power as an interdiction, like we did, exactly like we did against the Taliban in 2001.
01:28:36.280Well, first of all, the M-E-K is not the Northern Alliance at its height.
01:28:43.020Second of all, you're talking about far greater ground that's going to have to be covered, and a logistics tale that is going, I mean, we're talking like this is not going to work.
01:28:53.600Then you're going to have to deal with the rugged terrain of Iran.
01:29:08.820This is a much bigger country than Afghanistan with many more people.
01:29:12.360So we're talking about a much longer end commitment on our part.
01:29:17.360And I think the president knows this, and I think he's sort of like the frog boiling the water, boiling in the water.
01:29:23.360He's just sort of slowly getting us used to the idea before he has to send troops in because he wants to, quote, win.
01:29:30.520Well, winning for him is regime change.
01:29:32.300The regime is not going to change on its own.
01:29:34.320It's not going to be the people who can do it because they're not organized enough.
01:29:37.360They're too divided amongst each other.
01:29:38.860So he's going to need to send in special forces and CIA to basically do the organizing on the ground and to do force multipliers.
01:29:46.720And I'm sorry to say that the likelihood of this working is very, very low.
01:29:52.880And now we're talking about being seen in this region as strategically defeated by what we were told was a backward military force in Iran.
01:30:03.640The first American to die in the war in Afghanistan was a CIA officer, Johnny Michael Spann.
01:30:45.740And I think it's very interesting that.
01:30:46.960Wait, can I just ask a question, is the problem?
01:30:48.840I mean, I do detect, I don't detect, I notice, it's very obvious, efforts by Israel and its proxies in the United States to foment a religious conflict in our country.
01:31:01.960Hate all the Muslims, deport the Muslims, as if that's better than saying hate all the Jews.
01:31:07.300But they're trying to turn religions against each other in our country.
01:31:12.700And I see the same, which I resent more than anything I've seen in a long time, because it's not going to make a peaceful country for my children.